WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.120 --> 00:00:08.000 Oh he is, folks, it show die. 2 00:00:08.679 --> 00:00:10.599 People say good money to see this movie. 3 00:00:10.919 --> 00:00:13.560 When they go out to a theater, they want cold sodas, 4 00:00:13.880 --> 00:00:15.960 hot popcorn, and no monsters. 5 00:00:16.120 --> 00:00:19.199 In the protection booth, everyone pretend podcasting isn't boring. 6 00:00:20.320 --> 00:00:26.519 Ut it off. 7 00:00:59.240 --> 00:01:00.280 I'll tell you it's no good. 8 00:01:00.280 --> 00:01:03.200 I'm not kind of get involved involved in what? 9 00:01:04.000 --> 00:01:07.280 How stupid do you think I am? 10 00:01:07.680 --> 00:01:08.799 You hate that one. 11 00:01:10.120 --> 00:01:12.200 Some days, SMO. I ain't gonna hate her enough to 12 00:01:12.280 --> 00:01:19.519 kill her. 13 00:01:42.319 --> 00:01:44.079 Someone tried to murder me. 14 00:01:44.959 --> 00:01:47.920 She was lying there, The room was full of gas. 15 00:01:48.760 --> 00:01:51.959 I pulled her out in the air. The office said 16 00:01:52.040 --> 00:01:53.920 soon out because he didn't hear me. I thought she 17 00:01:54.000 --> 00:01:54.799 was coming too. 18 00:01:54.640 --> 00:01:57.000 So I left her to turn off the gas and 19 00:01:57.159 --> 00:02:00.280 the key was gone. Well, as she claimed, somebody trying 20 00:02:00.280 --> 00:02:00.840 to murder her. 21 00:02:01.280 --> 00:02:02.120 She was a steric. 22 00:02:02.760 --> 00:02:03.879 I would want to murder her. 23 00:02:04.760 --> 00:02:06.680 You kidding a woman with her. 24 00:02:06.640 --> 00:02:07.239 Kind of money? 25 00:02:08.159 --> 00:02:11.680 You can be so sweet at times. I'm not going 26 00:02:11.759 --> 00:02:52.719 to rush. 27 00:02:52.759 --> 00:02:54.960 Welcome to the Projection booth. I'm your host. Mike White 28 00:02:55.039 --> 00:02:57.919 joined me once again. Is mister Jedediah Airs. 29 00:02:57.919 --> 00:02:58.599 Good morning. 30 00:02:59.400 --> 00:03:01.879 Also back the booth is mis Lexie van Dyck. 31 00:03:02.759 --> 00:03:04.439 Hello, happy to be here. 32 00:03:05.039 --> 00:03:08.080 November twenty twenty four continues with a look at Otto 33 00:03:08.120 --> 00:03:12.520 Premager's nineteen fifty two thriller Angel Face. The film starts 34 00:03:12.599 --> 00:03:15.520 Robert Mitcham as Frank Jessup and ambulance driver who gets 35 00:03:15.560 --> 00:03:19.639 mixed up with the posh Tremaine family. He's torn between 36 00:03:19.639 --> 00:03:22.599 the dangerous Diane Tremaine played by Gene Simmons and his 37 00:03:22.719 --> 00:03:26.039 best gal Mary played by Mona Freeman. We will be 38 00:03:26.039 --> 00:03:27.960 getting more into the mix as we go along, So 39 00:03:28.000 --> 00:03:30.400 if you don't want anything spoiled all the twists and 40 00:03:30.479 --> 00:03:33.520 turns of this film as we go along, definitely turn 41 00:03:33.560 --> 00:03:35.840 off the podcast and come on back. We will still 42 00:03:35.879 --> 00:03:39.280 be here. And if you come back right after that ending, 43 00:03:40.039 --> 00:03:43.199 Holy cow, right, Jedediah, when was the first time you 44 00:03:43.240 --> 00:03:45.240 saw Angel Face and what did you think? 45 00:03:45.560 --> 00:03:48.319 I actually saw it for the first time when you 46 00:03:48.360 --> 00:03:51.840 asked me to be on this episode. So obviously I'm 47 00:03:51.879 --> 00:03:55.520 a big crime guy and I love classic film noir, 48 00:03:55.680 --> 00:03:59.000 and it's hard to believe that I'd never seen this one, 49 00:03:59.080 --> 00:04:02.680 but I saw for the first time earlier this year, 50 00:04:02.879 --> 00:04:05.439 and then I've watched it several times since, and I 51 00:04:05.520 --> 00:04:09.039 have to confess it's not my favorite to rewatch. 52 00:04:09.400 --> 00:04:10.080 It's one that. 53 00:04:10.080 --> 00:04:13.360 I admire in a lot of ways. I like it 54 00:04:13.599 --> 00:04:16.439 thematically a lot. I like a lot of elements of it. 55 00:04:16.920 --> 00:04:19.759 But if I were going to rewatch, especially like an 56 00:04:19.800 --> 00:04:25.600 Autopremenger Phil Noir, I'm much rather rewatch Fallen Angel or 57 00:04:25.600 --> 00:04:28.800 over the Sidewalk in something like that. But I have 58 00:04:29.199 --> 00:04:33.079 a lot of respect for it thematically. I'm really eager 59 00:04:33.120 --> 00:04:35.199 to hear what you guys have to say because it's 60 00:04:35.279 --> 00:04:39.839 new to me still and I'm appreciating it more with 61 00:04:39.920 --> 00:04:43.600 each re rewatch, but not one I'm gonna pop on 62 00:04:43.839 --> 00:04:44.360 first thing. 63 00:04:44.399 --> 00:04:48.759 If I'm looking for a moody film noir and LEXI, 64 00:04:48.759 --> 00:04:49.480 how about yourself. 65 00:04:50.800 --> 00:04:53.680 I saw this for the first time for this podcast. 66 00:04:54.120 --> 00:04:58.199 I Parmenger is someone who I'm very interested in. 67 00:04:58.240 --> 00:05:02.600 But his work is extremely vast, so it's hard so 68 00:05:02.600 --> 00:05:06.639 I can get through everything in one go like some directors. 69 00:05:07.240 --> 00:05:11.759 But this one is so interesting because it is Have 70 00:05:11.839 --> 00:05:16.199 you guys seen Bonjoorge Tristee his later film. 71 00:05:16.040 --> 00:05:17.160 Yeah, I saw that one. 72 00:05:17.759 --> 00:05:20.000 There's a lot of this movie. 73 00:05:20.360 --> 00:05:24.120 They feel like this is his first step for making 74 00:05:24.160 --> 00:05:26.800 that movie because a lot of the concepts and stuff 75 00:05:26.800 --> 00:05:31.879 are very similar. The story is very similar, the characters 76 00:05:31.920 --> 00:05:36.399 are very similar, So I just felt so much this 77 00:05:36.519 --> 00:05:39.120 is like reflections of like how he's going to make 78 00:05:39.160 --> 00:05:40.560 another movie down the line. 79 00:05:41.279 --> 00:05:43.959 This was the first time viewing for me, and I 80 00:05:44.079 --> 00:05:47.079 really don't know that much auto premature. I'm trying to 81 00:05:47.079 --> 00:05:51.720 remember why I picked this one, but I'm glad I did, 82 00:05:51.759 --> 00:05:56.240 because I, again was unfamiliar with it. Really, I always 83 00:05:56.360 --> 00:05:59.040 enjoy Herbert Marshall, even though he's only in here for 84 00:06:00.160 --> 00:06:04.480 not very long. And maybe it was the strange psychosexual 85 00:06:04.519 --> 00:06:06.759 stuff that attracted me, or maybe it showed up on 86 00:06:06.800 --> 00:06:10.920 a list of weirdo films noir, but this one just 87 00:06:11.000 --> 00:06:14.000 scratches an itch. I can see where you're coming from, Jedediah. 88 00:06:14.319 --> 00:06:17.839 This is a tough one to watch multiple times, especially 89 00:06:17.879 --> 00:06:21.680 after you see the big murder and the end scene. 90 00:06:21.920 --> 00:06:24.160 Where do you go from there? So going back to 91 00:06:24.240 --> 00:06:28.279 the movie, I will pick out more things as I 92 00:06:28.319 --> 00:06:30.879 see it a few more times than that. But yeah, 93 00:06:30.920 --> 00:06:33.519 it's not one that I'm going to keep digging into. 94 00:06:34.160 --> 00:06:37.439 It's not Laura. But I do have to say I'm 95 00:06:37.480 --> 00:06:40.519 not an expert on films noir by any stretch of 96 00:06:40.560 --> 00:06:43.079 the imagination. So when you're talking about where the sidewalk 97 00:06:43.199 --> 00:06:45.839 ends and Fallen Angel. I'm just like, yeah, I still 98 00:06:45.839 --> 00:06:46.839 got to see those two. 99 00:06:47.800 --> 00:06:54.040 Those really show off Freminger's incredible gifts for just really 100 00:06:54.160 --> 00:06:59.399 lush moody at Atmospheric Films. They both starre Dana Andrews, 101 00:06:59.439 --> 00:07:02.360 who was some he used a fairmount and. 102 00:07:03.240 --> 00:07:06.959 Angel Face is often daylight. 103 00:07:07.000 --> 00:07:13.560 And when these kind of big gosh mansion and it's 104 00:07:13.600 --> 00:07:17.319 a different stripe of noir. This is not the dark streets, 105 00:07:17.800 --> 00:07:20.600 dark alleys of film noir, of the sort of hard 106 00:07:20.600 --> 00:07:24.199 boiled variety that I'm especially attracted to. But it is 107 00:07:24.480 --> 00:07:29.680 Mitch of playing He's the greatest film noir sap right 108 00:07:30.360 --> 00:07:33.560 dies for love because he meets the wrong woman and 109 00:07:34.079 --> 00:07:38.199 he can't resist her, even as it becomes increasingly apparent 110 00:07:38.199 --> 00:07:43.319 to him that he should. And he remains cool, even 111 00:07:43.360 --> 00:07:48.199 as he is the biggest dumbass in the world, still 112 00:07:48.240 --> 00:07:52.040 somehow want to be that guy. Jay Kinkson, one of 113 00:07:52.079 --> 00:07:56.959 my favorite writers the Phone Noir, in his book The 114 00:07:57.000 --> 00:08:02.079 Blind Alley, described Angel Face as the third part in 115 00:08:02.639 --> 00:08:06.000 the ultimate Robert Mitcham The sap Who Dies for Love trilogy, 116 00:08:06.079 --> 00:08:09.759 starting with Out of the Past in forty seven and 117 00:08:09.800 --> 00:08:14.079 then His Kind of Woman in nineteen fifty and Angel 118 00:08:14.120 --> 00:08:16.319 Face in fifty two, and he says. 119 00:08:16.079 --> 00:08:20.319 In each one Mitcham goes from is. 120 00:08:21.319 --> 00:08:23.480 Diminished and diminished, like Out of the Past is the 121 00:08:23.480 --> 00:08:28.279 most romantic, and he gets to choose to die or 122 00:08:28.399 --> 00:08:32.320 love at the end. And then in his Kind of Woman, 123 00:08:32.679 --> 00:08:39.159 he's pretty much gottency. He's bashed over the head and 124 00:08:39.200 --> 00:08:44.399 he's loozy and he's just this the theem fetales puppet 125 00:08:44.559 --> 00:08:46.960 throughout and he's duped and. 126 00:08:48.519 --> 00:08:50.399 He doesn't die, but she tries to kill him at 127 00:08:50.399 --> 00:08:50.720 the end. 128 00:08:50.879 --> 00:08:52.840 He's just kind of a dupe. He doesn't get to 129 00:08:52.879 --> 00:08:56.519 be noble or anything. And then in this one he 130 00:08:56.639 --> 00:09:00.360 kind of sees it coming and lays down and then 131 00:09:00.639 --> 00:09:03.960 pays the price for it. But yeah, and each one 132 00:09:04.080 --> 00:09:10.679 just stripped and of the sort of doomed romanticism of 133 00:09:11.320 --> 00:09:11.840 film noir. 134 00:09:12.360 --> 00:09:14.639 But he's still pretty cool. I don't know how I 135 00:09:14.679 --> 00:09:15.399 pulls that off. 136 00:09:15.679 --> 00:09:18.840 He's incredibly cool. I love these little one liners that 137 00:09:18.919 --> 00:09:22.039 he has, these little zingers that he gets in there. Oh, 138 00:09:22.080 --> 00:09:23.879 I don't trust you, but I'm still going to do 139 00:09:23.919 --> 00:09:25.840 this anyway, right, Frank, are. 140 00:09:25.720 --> 00:09:28.960 You're accusing me? I'm not accusing anybody. But if I 141 00:09:29.000 --> 00:09:30.320 were a coup and not a very. 142 00:09:30.200 --> 00:09:33.080 Bright coup at bet I'd say that's your story was 143 00:09:33.080 --> 00:09:36.960 as phony as a three dollars. 144 00:09:35.519 --> 00:09:37.960 Some of those lines that he just tosses off like 145 00:09:38.080 --> 00:09:42.279 nobody's business. Yeah, he's super super cool, but yeah, also 146 00:09:42.759 --> 00:09:46.240 such a dope. And he's got Mary there and it's 147 00:09:46.399 --> 00:09:50.320 come on, dude, she's right here. You've got the perfect 148 00:09:50.559 --> 00:09:54.639 girl right here, but treats her like shit and ends 149 00:09:54.720 --> 00:09:58.759 up going with Gene Simmons. Though I should say, we 150 00:09:58.799 --> 00:10:01.080 should probably talk a little bit about the origins of 151 00:10:01.120 --> 00:10:04.879 this movie and just that this was shot so incredibly quick, 152 00:10:05.759 --> 00:10:10.320 just because Gene Simmons had a deal with RCO and 153 00:10:10.960 --> 00:10:15.200 Howard Hughes, the guy who was running RKO, and she 154 00:10:15.279 --> 00:10:19.720 had a three picture deal, and they had what eighteen 155 00:10:19.799 --> 00:10:22.159 days left on her contract or something, and they had 156 00:10:22.200 --> 00:10:25.799 to get that last picture done. Hughes was just like, 157 00:10:25.799 --> 00:10:29.120 you're not getting a free picture, you're not getting off 158 00:10:29.279 --> 00:10:32.679 Because apparently Hughes just and I wasn't really aware of 159 00:10:32.679 --> 00:10:35.720 this whole idea of him signing starlets so that he 160 00:10:35.720 --> 00:10:38.639 could bang them, and he really had the hots for 161 00:10:38.799 --> 00:10:41.399 Gene Simmons, and her husband at the time was not 162 00:10:41.559 --> 00:10:44.240 very happy about that. She wasn't happy about that. She 163 00:10:45.440 --> 00:10:48.960 cut her own hair super short so that she wouldn't 164 00:10:49.039 --> 00:10:50.919 be able to star in this movie, and just to 165 00:10:50.960 --> 00:10:54.679 stay away from Howard Hughes. She openly hated this guy. 166 00:10:55.519 --> 00:10:59.159 And yeah, he was very much a cat. He's very 167 00:10:59.200 --> 00:11:01.720 much a creep. A lot of the stories about Howard 168 00:11:01.759 --> 00:11:05.720 Hughes that you hear are one true. And yeah, he 169 00:11:05.799 --> 00:11:08.519 hired Premager because he said, you can get this done 170 00:11:08.600 --> 00:11:11.000 really quickly, so bang it out, let's go. 171 00:11:11.879 --> 00:11:13.960 I think she's really good in this movie. 172 00:11:14.039 --> 00:11:18.679 I love film noir because it feels like moral details 173 00:11:18.759 --> 00:11:23.600 without any judgment, and that's what this film sets up 174 00:11:23.799 --> 00:11:25.559 as it's a very. 175 00:11:25.919 --> 00:11:28.840 Quick film, like it moves really fast. 176 00:11:28.639 --> 00:11:33.600 Which I appreciate, and it just sets up everything so 177 00:11:33.759 --> 00:11:37.240 you see right away Jeane Simmons has her eyes on him, 178 00:11:37.600 --> 00:11:40.559 she gets in, she gets her claws in, and the 179 00:11:40.600 --> 00:11:44.600 whole time you really don't feel he loves her at all, 180 00:11:45.000 --> 00:11:48.639 at least in when I was watching, that raw chemistry 181 00:11:48.679 --> 00:11:51.039 that you have with someone who you're attracted with but 182 00:11:51.120 --> 00:11:54.960 you don't necessarily see a future with. And she, on 183 00:11:55.000 --> 00:11:59.480 the other hand, is this kind of spoiled rich girl 184 00:11:59.679 --> 00:12:02.960 who sees what she wants she sees a way to 185 00:12:04.360 --> 00:12:06.679 have her cake can eat it too by taking care 186 00:12:06.720 --> 00:12:09.440 of her stepmom and having her dad and this guy 187 00:12:09.480 --> 00:12:12.960 at the same time. And so she's very manipulative. It 188 00:12:12.960 --> 00:12:15.600 has her designs on him. And also the other thing 189 00:12:15.840 --> 00:12:18.000 I felt is like it didn't feel like there was 190 00:12:18.039 --> 00:12:21.960 a ton of animosity from the stepmother towards her. 191 00:12:22.080 --> 00:12:23.559 Which I find very interesting. 192 00:12:23.639 --> 00:12:27.039 It feels like this very one sided, like she hates me, 193 00:12:27.120 --> 00:12:30.440 she hates me, she's making my life miserable, when everything 194 00:12:30.480 --> 00:12:33.480 we see is her just being like a doting stepmother. 195 00:12:34.399 --> 00:12:38.320 Yeah, it's just a real interesting, edical thing going on there. 196 00:12:38.559 --> 00:12:42.039 It's not really played up as a sexual relationship with 197 00:12:42.120 --> 00:12:45.720 her father, but very much loves him and wants to 198 00:12:45.840 --> 00:12:51.639 murder her stepmother, who does not have it coming. Everything 199 00:12:51.720 --> 00:12:54.559 we see about her is that she's great, she's rich, 200 00:12:55.399 --> 00:13:00.519 and she is annoyed that her husband is just spend money. 201 00:13:00.600 --> 00:13:03.720 I'm the one who has to tell him not to 202 00:13:03.759 --> 00:13:05.399 be contemptuous of money. 203 00:13:06.320 --> 00:13:09.759 Don't throw it around. It's nothing, it's got value. 204 00:13:10.480 --> 00:13:15.120 She's irritated because her stepdaughter clearly despises her, but she's 205 00:13:15.159 --> 00:13:18.480 trying to be a good step mother, creatiate herself and 206 00:13:18.559 --> 00:13:23.320 meet her halfway. But yeah, I do love Gene Simmons' 207 00:13:23.720 --> 00:13:27.919 performance in this, I will say with every rewatch the 208 00:13:27.960 --> 00:13:31.440 introduction to her characters. She's sitting at the piano playing 209 00:13:32.159 --> 00:13:35.879 Robert Mitcham plays an ambulance driver who has come to 210 00:13:36.480 --> 00:13:43.000 their home because Geen simmons stepmother has almost died from 211 00:13:43.200 --> 00:13:48.000 inhaling carbon monoxide or some gas. And he comes down 212 00:13:48.080 --> 00:13:52.039 the stairs from having treated mom, and Jean Simmons is 213 00:13:52.080 --> 00:13:58.159 playing piano very sad tune at the piano, and he's 214 00:13:58.159 --> 00:14:01.519 immediately just fixated on her, and then he tries to 215 00:14:01.559 --> 00:14:04.399 comfort her and says, it's okay, she's going to be 216 00:14:04.480 --> 00:14:08.799 all right, She's just fine, and Gene Simmons bursts into tears, 217 00:14:09.519 --> 00:14:13.919 and you know, first viewing, of course is read as, oh, 218 00:14:13.960 --> 00:14:17.159 she's so relieved, she's been, you know, so upset up 219 00:14:17.200 --> 00:14:19.159 that and she can finally let go of this, and 220 00:14:19.200 --> 00:14:23.360 of course we come to realize second viewing it's pretty 221 00:14:23.360 --> 00:14:26.600 funny because she is really upset that her plans, her 222 00:14:26.639 --> 00:14:30.039 attempts to murder her step mother have not worked out. 223 00:14:30.200 --> 00:14:34.159 And I really do enjoy her performance in this. It 224 00:14:34.320 --> 00:14:39.080 is funnier and funnier every time, just how right on 225 00:14:39.200 --> 00:14:44.840 the surface, nasty and cold and everything she is. She's 226 00:14:44.919 --> 00:14:49.440 really catty with Robert Mensm's girlfriend with Mona? Was that 227 00:14:49.559 --> 00:14:54.000 Mona Freeman playing the girlfriend who I got to say, 228 00:14:54.039 --> 00:14:58.080 I really like. Typically in these films more the good 229 00:14:58.080 --> 00:15:01.200 girl or the non sense a. The straight girl is 230 00:15:01.960 --> 00:15:05.200 kind of drab, boring, and you can see why the 231 00:15:05.559 --> 00:15:09.240 hero or the anti hero is such a sap for 232 00:15:09.519 --> 00:15:13.679 the sexy bad girl. But I really like Wonna Freeman 233 00:15:13.759 --> 00:15:16.120 in this one. I think she gives as good as 234 00:15:16.159 --> 00:15:20.080 she gets. She's got a great relationship with Robert Mitchmond's 235 00:15:20.080 --> 00:15:26.399 screen that both what's clear they're involved sexually. There's nothing, 236 00:15:26.759 --> 00:15:29.360 as you were saying, Lexi, there's no judgment about that 237 00:15:29.440 --> 00:15:33.320 in this movie. It's he's using her and she's using him, 238 00:15:33.360 --> 00:15:36.639 and they both like each other. But when he's going 239 00:15:36.720 --> 00:15:40.559 off with another girl, she just moves on, goes off 240 00:15:40.600 --> 00:15:44.399 with another guy, and it's very casual and adult and. 241 00:15:45.799 --> 00:15:46.960 They still see each other. 242 00:15:47.240 --> 00:15:52.200 But yeah, there's no she's not dowdy, she's not pearl clutching, 243 00:15:52.360 --> 00:15:56.200 she's not boring at all. I like her performance, and 244 00:15:56.879 --> 00:16:00.759 it's hardest, maybe in this one, to say, why are 245 00:16:00.799 --> 00:16:02.960 you sticking around the bad choice. 246 00:16:03.000 --> 00:16:05.159 When she's still there, she. 247 00:16:05.159 --> 00:16:08.720 Goes off with his partner Bill, which probably cuts a 248 00:16:08.720 --> 00:16:12.559 little close. And I love Bill played by Kenneth Toby, 249 00:16:12.879 --> 00:16:15.639 who I mostly recognize for being one of the air 250 00:16:15.720 --> 00:16:19.000 traffic controllers and airplane, but I also know he's in 251 00:16:19.879 --> 00:16:22.080 it came from beneath the Sea and the thing from 252 00:16:22.120 --> 00:16:24.600 the outer space. He was just in so many things 253 00:16:24.600 --> 00:16:27.679 over the years. But he's got a great face. And 254 00:16:27.759 --> 00:16:30.639 I do love the confrontation scene that we have a 255 00:16:30.720 --> 00:16:33.000 little bit later on in the movie, if not towards 256 00:16:33.039 --> 00:16:36.159 the end of the movie, where Mitcham is having a 257 00:16:36.480 --> 00:16:42.320 very open heart to heart conversation with Mary and Bill's 258 00:16:42.360 --> 00:16:43.840 there and he's just like, Hey, if it's got something 259 00:16:43.879 --> 00:16:45.840 to do with Mary, it's got something to do with me, 260 00:16:45.879 --> 00:16:48.120 because now we're hooking up kind of thing. And yeah, 261 00:16:48.200 --> 00:16:53.960 to your point, there's no hand ringing around. Robert Mitcham 262 00:16:54.240 --> 00:16:58.840 and the Mona Freeman character were definitely living or cohabitating. 263 00:16:59.000 --> 00:17:01.279 It sounds now it sounds like Bill's right in there 264 00:17:01.320 --> 00:17:04.200 as well. There's no oh, at my place your place. 265 00:17:04.480 --> 00:17:06.720 He does have his own place, but he definitely left 266 00:17:06.759 --> 00:17:11.160 some things behind it her place, and that's the only scene. 267 00:17:11.279 --> 00:17:14.720 So I read the shooting script of this, and I thought, oh, 268 00:17:14.799 --> 00:17:17.279 I'm going to get a good look at some of 269 00:17:17.319 --> 00:17:19.880 these uncut scenes and some of this stuff. But no, 270 00:17:19.960 --> 00:17:22.720 it was the shooting script. It was so exacting to 271 00:17:22.839 --> 00:17:25.880 what we see, except for the opening. There's a little 272 00:17:25.880 --> 00:17:29.720 bit at the opening where it's Frank the Robert Mitchen 273 00:17:29.839 --> 00:17:33.000 character and Mary the Mona Freeman character, and I think 274 00:17:33.039 --> 00:17:36.480 a little bit of Bill at the hospital and them 275 00:17:36.680 --> 00:17:39.559 going back and forth about i'll see it when it 276 00:17:39.640 --> 00:17:42.039 shifts over, those kind of things, and then they get 277 00:17:42.039 --> 00:17:45.799 the call and then they go to save missus Tremaine. 278 00:17:46.519 --> 00:17:49.079 That's really the only different all of the other stuff, 279 00:17:49.119 --> 00:17:51.200 even the little witty the one liners that I was 280 00:17:51.240 --> 00:17:54.720 talking about, those were all written in the draft that 281 00:17:54.799 --> 00:17:57.759 I read, which was still called The Murder, but somebody 282 00:17:57.759 --> 00:17:59.640 had written on the cover angel face. 283 00:18:00.640 --> 00:18:00.920 Yeah. 284 00:18:00.960 --> 00:18:04.480 The whole thing about Mona is that she's so entirely 285 00:18:04.599 --> 00:18:09.240 sure of herself and she knows what she's worth, which 286 00:18:09.319 --> 00:18:12.839 is something like the most equivalent we get of this 287 00:18:12.920 --> 00:18:17.119 a lot of performances like Barbara Stanwick. She's very I 288 00:18:17.200 --> 00:18:20.279 know what I deserve, I know who I deserve, and 289 00:18:20.599 --> 00:18:23.640 I'm gonna pursue that rather than pursue some kind of 290 00:18:23.799 --> 00:18:26.839 foolish man who doesn't really know what he wants. 291 00:18:27.200 --> 00:18:30.960 And I love the idea of. 292 00:18:30.880 --> 00:18:34.240 The whole morals of this being like, he doesn't really 293 00:18:34.279 --> 00:18:39.039 love this other woman, but she is keeping him on 294 00:18:39.319 --> 00:18:42.400 by giving him the promise of helping him with his garage. 295 00:18:43.400 --> 00:18:46.799 He's being a little bit of a a social climber, 296 00:18:46.960 --> 00:18:51.519 but he has higher aspirations for himself, and so that's 297 00:18:51.559 --> 00:18:54.000 one of the main reasons he's pursuing her, besides the 298 00:18:54.039 --> 00:18:59.480 sexual attraction. And Mona stands her ground and she is 299 00:18:59.480 --> 00:19:02.799 the quote quote good woman and her performance of that 300 00:19:02.920 --> 00:19:05.920 is fantastic. And I love the scene of Bona and 301 00:19:06.039 --> 00:19:09.920 Jean Simmons, Diane's her character seem at the table at 302 00:19:09.960 --> 00:19:12.279 the very beginning where they're like, it's like in the 303 00:19:12.279 --> 00:19:13.200 Battle of Wills. 304 00:19:13.480 --> 00:19:14.599 It's so fantastic. 305 00:19:15.480 --> 00:19:18.119 Well, and that scene really brings up to me what 306 00:19:18.160 --> 00:19:20.720 this whole movie is about, which is class and the 307 00:19:20.799 --> 00:19:24.960 different class structure. And you're talking about Mitcham's not really 308 00:19:24.960 --> 00:19:28.119 being a social climber. He's so impressed with her car, 309 00:19:28.200 --> 00:19:32.240 with Diane's car, this little hot rod, and he it's 310 00:19:32.279 --> 00:19:34.480 not like he sees it and goes, oh wow, I 311 00:19:34.519 --> 00:19:38.559 could drive this car. All the time, she's setting him 312 00:19:38.599 --> 00:19:42.200 up to be her boy toy, where it's like, oh, here, 313 00:19:42.240 --> 00:19:44.359 i'll get you a job, and i'll give you more 314 00:19:44.400 --> 00:19:46.640 money towards your garage, and I'll do this, and I'll 315 00:19:46.680 --> 00:19:49.839 do this, and that scene with Mona when it's her 316 00:19:49.880 --> 00:19:52.720 and Jeene Simmons at lunch and that whole thing where 317 00:19:52.759 --> 00:19:55.480 at the end Mona's hey, I'm not going to pick 318 00:19:55.559 --> 00:19:58.160 up the check, like I know who's got the money 319 00:19:58.160 --> 00:20:02.000 around here, and she just leaves the stiffer with the 320 00:20:02.079 --> 00:20:05.119 check and I'm like, good, yeah, you should, because these 321 00:20:05.640 --> 00:20:08.759 rich a holes. And that's so much of this is 322 00:20:08.880 --> 00:20:13.119 just this idea of Diane has this money, her stepmother's 323 00:20:13.160 --> 00:20:16.519 money because her father isn't rich. Her father's a writer. 324 00:20:16.640 --> 00:20:20.720 And I know writers, Jed. I see the mansion that 325 00:20:20.759 --> 00:20:24.000 you're living in as a writer. I know you're sitting 326 00:20:24.039 --> 00:20:26.960 there on your throne of gold and everything. But like, 327 00:20:27.079 --> 00:20:29.799 he hasn't written a word since they got together, and 328 00:20:29.839 --> 00:20:32.640 that becomes this huge problem for Gene Simmons where she's 329 00:20:32.680 --> 00:20:36.160 just she's ruining my father. How dare she he hasn't 330 00:20:36.200 --> 00:20:36.960 written anything? 331 00:20:37.279 --> 00:20:39.599 How funny because her dad seems more like a social 332 00:20:39.640 --> 00:20:43.359 climber because it's probably married her mother who was rich, 333 00:20:43.759 --> 00:20:45.960 and then he married another woman who. 334 00:20:45.799 --> 00:20:49.559 Was rich so he could pursue his writing career. 335 00:20:50.359 --> 00:20:50.960 I wonder what. 336 00:20:50.960 --> 00:20:54.640 Happened to her original mother if she had something to 337 00:20:54.680 --> 00:20:57.039 do with that. Is she that desperate to get her 338 00:20:57.079 --> 00:21:01.079 father by herself that she bumped off her original mom? 339 00:21:01.079 --> 00:21:04.200 Be think she died in some kind of bombing or 340 00:21:04.240 --> 00:21:05.119 something like that. 341 00:21:05.440 --> 00:21:08.559 Yeah, they were living in London, or yeah, died in 342 00:21:08.799 --> 00:21:09.359 the Blitz. 343 00:21:09.839 --> 00:21:10.000 Yes. 344 00:21:10.559 --> 00:21:12.759 I like what you talked about how this is a 345 00:21:12.799 --> 00:21:16.960 studio class of the people who have the money or 346 00:21:17.640 --> 00:21:21.599 who have this kind of status don't always use it 347 00:21:21.680 --> 00:21:23.920 in a quote unquote classy way. But then you have 348 00:21:24.039 --> 00:21:26.559 these people who are of like lower stature, like Mona 349 00:21:26.599 --> 00:21:29.359 and stuff, who are doing the right thing and acting 350 00:21:29.440 --> 00:21:30.519 in a classy manner. 351 00:21:31.400 --> 00:21:35.240 I like too, how the scene between Dean Simmons and 352 00:21:35.279 --> 00:21:38.319 Mona Freeman. Dean Simmons is trying to drive a wedge 353 00:21:38.400 --> 00:21:42.319 and she does very blondely and very easily, between Mona 354 00:21:42.359 --> 00:21:47.839 and Frank or Robert Mitchmin. But she offers money. She says, look, 355 00:21:48.359 --> 00:21:50.240 I know he's too proud to take it if I 356 00:21:50.359 --> 00:21:52.960 just offer it to him. So I'm going to offer 357 00:21:53.039 --> 00:21:58.200 you money. And her idea modas is he's not that dump. 358 00:21:58.279 --> 00:22:00.400 It's hard, like I couldn't just have this money. And 359 00:22:00.720 --> 00:22:07.799 the idea that Jean Simmons Diane has, she just tosses off. Oh, 360 00:22:07.880 --> 00:22:09.759 there's so many ways to get money. Just say you 361 00:22:09.759 --> 00:22:13.240 want it on the radio, and that's easy. 362 00:22:13.519 --> 00:22:15.200 Money comes from wherever. 363 00:22:15.680 --> 00:22:19.720 The obvious money person to answer of writing is you 364 00:22:19.720 --> 00:22:20.880 can just get money anywhere. 365 00:22:21.079 --> 00:22:22.799 Just yeah, try it. 366 00:22:23.160 --> 00:22:25.200 Why can't poor people buy more money? 367 00:22:25.200 --> 00:22:25.839 Exactly? 368 00:22:27.799 --> 00:22:28.640 There's a lot of. 369 00:22:29.160 --> 00:22:35.200 Fundat little details in the I'm sure anachronism's all over 370 00:22:35.559 --> 00:22:40.519 my favorite films noir, but I think in this one 371 00:22:41.559 --> 00:22:44.839 they stood out to me because I wasn't quite as 372 00:22:45.160 --> 00:22:49.880 wrapped up by the atmosphere of it the whole the 373 00:22:50.000 --> 00:22:53.440 opening scene where they come out, the ambulance drivers come 374 00:22:53.480 --> 00:22:57.960 out to the house and they find this woman nearly 375 00:22:58.039 --> 00:23:03.200 died in her bedroom, and they investigate it. They basically 376 00:23:03.240 --> 00:23:06.079 do the job of the cops and they get it 377 00:23:06.119 --> 00:23:09.720 all figured out. They say, this could have been a 378 00:23:09.839 --> 00:23:13.799 murder attempt or this could have been suicide, and they 379 00:23:14.119 --> 00:23:18.000 go through all the logistics of how the gas leak 380 00:23:18.119 --> 00:23:21.400 was discovered, who was where, what was going on, And 381 00:23:21.440 --> 00:23:24.319 I knows that's for the movie to keep the movie 382 00:23:24.400 --> 00:23:29.599 rolling along, but yeah, it was so odd watching ambulance 383 00:23:29.680 --> 00:23:33.079 drivers look for clues and point things out and then 384 00:23:34.039 --> 00:23:36.400 clean up and you're like, oh, we've decided it was 385 00:23:36.440 --> 00:23:39.920 an accident and that's that's all. 386 00:23:40.039 --> 00:23:41.319 So that was weird. 387 00:23:41.359 --> 00:23:44.759 And the movie's just full of weird little movie tricks 388 00:23:45.480 --> 00:23:48.920 that are standing out because I'm not distracted by how 389 00:23:49.160 --> 00:23:53.559 cool everything looks this time. Did ambulance drivers wear ties 390 00:23:54.200 --> 00:23:55.000 like all. 391 00:23:54.839 --> 00:23:57.079 The way up in the fifties? 392 00:23:57.599 --> 00:23:58.240 Was that a thing? 393 00:23:58.319 --> 00:24:00.799 I'm sure they did. Everyone wore tie n. 394 00:24:01.440 --> 00:24:03.880 I want to take a job in a garage too. 395 00:24:04.519 --> 00:24:07.359 Yeah, the opening of this film with them showing up 396 00:24:07.400 --> 00:24:10.799 and investigating this being the rich people's house, I was 397 00:24:10.880 --> 00:24:15.279 just like, I'm surprising at Colombo, especially with the way that's, oh, 398 00:24:15.359 --> 00:24:18.839 she could have kicked the key immediately Colombo would start 399 00:24:18.880 --> 00:24:21.880 doing the whole scratching of the head and looking for 400 00:24:21.920 --> 00:24:25.440 a pencil kind of thing, because this just does feel 401 00:24:25.519 --> 00:24:29.039