WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.360 --> 00:00:05.000 Hey, the Jesse Kelly Show. Another hour of The Jesse 2 00:00:05.200 --> 00:00:09.599 Kelly Show on a Friday, and it's been an amazing 3 00:00:09.720 --> 00:00:13.039 Friday with so many questions done, so many more to 4 00:00:13.160 --> 00:00:16.839 get to the weekend is upon us. So let's dig 5 00:00:16.879 --> 00:00:20.920 into this one here. Hey, Jesse, I'm curious your thoughts. 6 00:00:21.239 --> 00:00:24.079 The subject of this one is OROE for border patrol. 7 00:00:24.320 --> 00:00:27.519 That's rules of engagement for you civilian types. Hey, Jesse, 8 00:00:28.440 --> 00:00:31.679 just curious your thoughts on allowing border patrol to start 9 00:00:31.760 --> 00:00:35.039 firing on people if they don't obey commands to not 10 00:00:35.399 --> 00:00:38.359 enter at non ports of entry. If you're giving a 11 00:00:38.399 --> 00:00:40.719 direct order to turn back and proceed to the port 12 00:00:40.759 --> 00:00:43.399 of entry, and you continue on your path across the border, 13 00:00:44.359 --> 00:00:47.039 should we fire warning shots? So on and so forth? 14 00:00:47.719 --> 00:00:52.840 What are your thoughts? His name is Anthony. Well, this 15 00:00:52.960 --> 00:00:55.439 is one of those stances that I take that gets 16 00:00:55.439 --> 00:00:58.200 all kinds of complaints to the show in corporate. Remember, 17 00:00:58.240 --> 00:01:01.799 if you want to whine or complain, you're welcome to 18 00:01:02.039 --> 00:01:05.519 Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. You can leave us 19 00:01:05.519 --> 00:01:09.079 a voicemail eight seven seven three seven seven four three 20 00:01:09.239 --> 00:01:12.040 seven three. So I'll go ahead and say it again 21 00:01:12.079 --> 00:01:18.040 as clear as day unless deadly force is part of 22 00:01:18.079 --> 00:01:24.879 your security, you don't actually have security, period, end of story. 23 00:01:24.959 --> 00:01:30.319 It has to be on your list or you don't 24 00:01:30.359 --> 00:01:33.200 have security. I used the example before. It was a 25 00:01:33.239 --> 00:01:35.799 few weeks ago, but I use the example before of 26 00:01:37.439 --> 00:01:39.799 you want to come into my home and you want 27 00:01:39.799 --> 00:01:43.400 to steal my ice maker, and I don't blame you 28 00:01:43.439 --> 00:01:48.439 for that. I can tell you no. But unless I'm 29 00:01:48.480 --> 00:01:53.439 willing to do violent things to stop you, then if 30 00:01:53.480 --> 00:01:58.560 you really want to, you can do it. Violence has 31 00:01:58.640 --> 00:02:00.560 to be an option. I can even stand there at 32 00:02:00.599 --> 00:02:03.519 the front door, Hey, don't come in. Don't come in. 33 00:02:03.560 --> 00:02:07.159 But if you want to, and I've decided that violence 34 00:02:07.280 --> 00:02:09.960 is off the table, absolutely not. I'll never lay a 35 00:02:10.000 --> 00:02:12.280 hand on you. If you come in my home. I 36 00:02:12.319 --> 00:02:16.000 won't kill you. If I won't do I don't do violence. 37 00:02:16.080 --> 00:02:19.599 If I have that stance, then I don't actually have security. 38 00:02:20.280 --> 00:02:26.360 What I have is you, meaning your value system. I 39 00:02:26.479 --> 00:02:30.639 have to bank entirely on your value system if I 40 00:02:30.800 --> 00:02:33.960 take violence off the table. Why is there a big 41 00:02:34.159 --> 00:02:37.639 bouncer with seventeen inch biceps at the local club you're 42 00:02:37.680 --> 00:02:41.199 trying to get into. Why Because it has to be 43 00:02:41.360 --> 00:02:45.199 understood that there is security and if you try to 44 00:02:45.240 --> 00:02:49.240 come through the security when you're not allowed, violence will 45 00:02:49.240 --> 00:02:55.360 be visited upon you. Deadly. Force should absolutely be on 46 00:02:55.520 --> 00:02:59.639 the table for border patrol agents because without that, your 47 00:02:59.680 --> 00:03:03.080 bank on the value system of the people coming into 48 00:03:03.120 --> 00:03:06.159 the country, and you can't bank on that. They've already 49 00:03:06.199 --> 00:03:08.840 shown they're willing to violate our laws. Of course, they're 50 00:03:08.879 --> 00:03:11.360 just going to sidestep you. You can't come out and 51 00:03:11.360 --> 00:03:13.400 say things, well, we're not going to harm anybody. Well, 52 00:03:13.400 --> 00:03:18.639 we're not gonna, of course, not without violence. There's no 53 00:03:18.759 --> 00:03:22.680 real security period. I'll tell you this. Even in the Marines, 54 00:03:23.599 --> 00:03:27.759 we would have there are places on base where they 55 00:03:27.800 --> 00:03:32.879 store ammunition and dangerous things, explosive things, and you would 56 00:03:32.919 --> 00:03:36.039 have to go guard those places on occasion, depending on 57 00:03:36.080 --> 00:03:39.000 if you've got that detail or what not. And we 58 00:03:39.000 --> 00:03:42.280 were not given live rounds to cruise around the base with, 59 00:03:42.439 --> 00:03:44.719 So don't think that that's the case. You'll have your 60 00:03:44.759 --> 00:03:47.240 weapon out to train, but you have to check it out. 61 00:03:47.879 --> 00:03:50.120 No real live rounds unless you're out in the field, 62 00:03:50.120 --> 00:03:52.560 then you check it back in. But when you had 63 00:03:52.599 --> 00:03:55.000 to go guard let's call it an amo depot of 64 00:03:55.000 --> 00:03:59.039 some kind. You were not only given a weapon, you 65 00:03:59.120 --> 00:04:03.039 are given live round and it is made crystal clear 66 00:04:03.159 --> 00:04:05.280 to you. Obviously there are steps you take as far 67 00:04:05.360 --> 00:04:07.199 as calling out warnings and things like that, and you 68 00:04:07.199 --> 00:04:09.280 would want that. You don't just want to blast away, 69 00:04:10.159 --> 00:04:14.199 but you have the authority no matter what, as a 70 00:04:14.240 --> 00:04:17.680 young marine, as a PFC, as a private, I don't 71 00:04:17.680 --> 00:04:20.680 care if that's a full bird colonel trying to get 72 00:04:20.720 --> 00:04:23.879 past you into the AMMO depot, if he doesn't have 73 00:04:23.920 --> 00:04:27.040 the authority to do so, then you are allowed to 74 00:04:27.160 --> 00:04:30.319 kill him and you are given live ammunition as you 75 00:04:30.399 --> 00:04:35.279 are standing there, period, because they understood without the threat 76 00:04:35.279 --> 00:04:38.600 of violence, without violence being on the menu, it has 77 00:04:38.680 --> 00:04:40.079 to be one of the steps. Now you want it 78 00:04:40.079 --> 00:04:41.600 to be the last step, right because it is the 79 00:04:41.680 --> 00:04:44.839 last step. But without it being one of the steps, 80 00:04:45.480 --> 00:04:48.720 you don't have security. Of course, you should be able 81 00:04:48.720 --> 00:04:51.480 to fight well. Border patrol, I should say, should be 82 00:04:51.560 --> 00:04:54.720 able to fire upon people coming into the country illegally. 83 00:04:55.199 --> 00:04:57.399 Every country in the history of the world would acknowledge 84 00:04:57.439 --> 00:05:02.120 that's basic border security, and trees around the world still 85 00:05:02.160 --> 00:05:05.959 secure their border exactly this way, and they should go ahead, 86 00:05:06.079 --> 00:05:08.079 go ahead and try to break into Egypt. If you're 87 00:05:08.079 --> 00:05:11.800 in Palestine, go ahead and break into Egypt. See what happens. 88 00:05:12.040 --> 00:05:14.079 They'll fire you and leave your stinking body right by 89 00:05:14.120 --> 00:05:17.319 the wall. They're not even a hesitation. Nope, not welcome. 90 00:05:17.360 --> 00:05:22.279 You want to die? Has to be done, Jesse. Where's 91 00:05:22.319 --> 00:05:27.560 all this communist activity coming from? And who is funding it? Russia, China, Soros, 92 00:05:27.600 --> 00:05:31.560 et cetera. Well, this is a long there's a long 93 00:05:31.680 --> 00:05:34.519 history to this, and I'm not going to do all 94 00:05:34.560 --> 00:05:36.360 of it. Obviously, I'll do just a little bit of 95 00:05:36.439 --> 00:05:39.040 it here. I expand in this a lot more in 96 00:05:39.160 --> 00:05:42.519 my book, but the one I already wrote. Don't worry. 97 00:05:42.519 --> 00:05:44.959 I didn't write another book, The Anti Communist Manifesto. I 98 00:05:45.000 --> 00:05:46.160 kind of go over some of this, but there have 99 00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:47.839 been a lot of great books on it, but obviously 100 00:05:47.920 --> 00:05:54.000 not just mine. First, remember, communism coming to the United 101 00:05:54.000 --> 00:05:59.680 States of America was brought here originally on purpose by 102 00:05:59.720 --> 00:06:04.399 thes we were at war with the Soviet Union. This 103 00:06:04.600 --> 00:06:07.279 was honestly pre World War Two. This stuff was happening 104 00:06:08.279 --> 00:06:12.120 the Communists after their revolution in the Soviet Union. They 105 00:06:12.240 --> 00:06:17.680 knew that this big, free market country of America was 106 00:06:17.720 --> 00:06:20.279 going to be a problem for them. Member they wanted 107 00:06:20.279 --> 00:06:22.800 communism to be for the entire world. It was never 108 00:06:22.879 --> 00:06:25.319 just supposed to be for Russia. It was Workers of 109 00:06:25.360 --> 00:06:27.319 the World United. It was supposed to be for everyone. 110 00:06:27.399 --> 00:06:31.079 Everyone has to subject to it. And they brought it 111 00:06:31.199 --> 00:06:36.560 here on purpose, with the unions, teachers, unions, journalism, all 112 00:06:36.600 --> 00:06:40.120 the stuff you would think, trying everything they could to 113 00:06:40.199 --> 00:06:46.199 get a foothold here. And they were successful enough that, well, 114 00:06:46.199 --> 00:06:49.560 what's the best way I can describe it? Okay, here, 115 00:06:49.360 --> 00:06:51.759 here's a good example. Here's a good example. I want 116 00:06:51.800 --> 00:06:59.120 you to picture a seed, sunflower seed. You've had you 117 00:06:59.199 --> 00:07:01.279 know what sunflowers are, and all the seeds they produce. 118 00:07:03.120 --> 00:07:09.879 The original sunflower was the Soviet Union. But it wasn't 119 00:07:10.160 --> 00:07:14.279 just here. They were trying to get communism in. They 120 00:07:14.279 --> 00:07:17.720 were trying to put it in everywhere they could find it. France, 121 00:07:17.759 --> 00:07:20.560 they were very, very successful in France and other places. 122 00:07:21.079 --> 00:07:25.519 And what they were doing was they were dropping sunflower 123 00:07:25.600 --> 00:07:28.800 seeds in these places, and so we'll focus on us 124 00:07:28.800 --> 00:07:31.839 for the time being. They dropped the sunflower seed of 125 00:07:31.879 --> 00:07:34.879 communism here, and then of course the Soviet Union ends 126 00:07:34.920 --> 00:07:37.519 up going down and the wallfalls and all those other 127 00:07:37.560 --> 00:07:41.399 things that we think communism was defeated. Communism was not defeated. 128 00:07:41.439 --> 00:07:45.000 The Soviet Union was defeated. They had already planted the 129 00:07:45.040 --> 00:07:49.600 seed here. And now most of our communism, not all 130 00:07:49.639 --> 00:07:52.319 because a lot of it's funded by dirty foreigners, but 131 00:07:52.560 --> 00:07:57.759 most of our communism is actually home grown American communists 132 00:07:58.120 --> 00:08:02.800 raising and nurturing other communists. This happens a lot in 133 00:08:02.839 --> 00:08:07.639 the university system of this country. These are communists, and 134 00:08:06.959 --> 00:08:10.319 I'm not I'm not overstating this. Honestly, go read the 135 00:08:10.319 --> 00:08:11.920 book and borrow it from a friend. If you don't 136 00:08:11.920 --> 00:08:13.120 have money, I'm not trying to get you to buy 137 00:08:13.199 --> 00:08:15.600 my book. I'm really not. It's fine. I'm fine, don't 138 00:08:15.600 --> 00:08:19.480 worry about that. Borrow it from someone where I outline 139 00:08:20.160 --> 00:08:24.439 committed communists like Weather, underground communists who were trying to 140 00:08:24.480 --> 00:08:28.439 blow people up and have a communist revolution, and in 141 00:08:28.480 --> 00:08:30.959 most ways, really in every way, they failed at that, 142 00:08:31.560 --> 00:08:34.200 but they didn't fail and just get locked in a 143 00:08:34.200 --> 00:08:37.799 cage forever. Many of them failed and then went right 144 00:08:37.840 --> 00:08:41.879 into the university system where they are still still teaching Aiden, 145 00:08:42.000 --> 00:08:45.480 Jaden and Braden to this day about the greatness of 146 00:08:45.480 --> 00:08:50.320 communism in the evils of America. America now raises and 147 00:08:50.440 --> 00:08:55.679 nurtures its own communists. Originally it was brought here by 148 00:08:55.720 --> 00:08:59.720 the Soviet Union. That sunflower came in. That's the sound 149 00:08:59.720 --> 00:09:03.720 the seas make dropped a couple of seeds. Soviet Union 150 00:09:03.720 --> 00:09:10.840 eventually fell, but those seeds still grow. And now we 151 00:09:11.000 --> 00:09:14.759 have homegrown communists, a lot of them here in this country, 152 00:09:15.519 --> 00:09:18.360 and it's going to take a lot of work getting 153 00:09:18.399 --> 00:09:20.720 them out. They sit on the Supreme Court. 154 00:09:20.440 --> 00:09:23.320 For Pete's say, can not eliminate the risk of detransitioners. 155 00:09:23.679 --> 00:09:29.159 So it becomes a pure exercise of weighing benefits versus risk, 156 00:09:29.480 --> 00:09:31.960 and the question of how many miners have to have 157 00:09:32.039 --> 00:09:36.440 their bodies irreparably harmed for unproven benefits is one that 158 00:09:36.519 --> 00:09:37.159 is best left. 159 00:09:37.240 --> 00:09:43.279 I'm sorry, Counselor. Every medical treatment has a risk, even 160 00:09:43.320 --> 00:09:50.960 taking astron There, that's the communists who sits on the 161 00:09:51.000 --> 00:09:54.600 Supreme Court of the United States of America. Her name 162 00:09:54.679 --> 00:09:59.919 is Sanya Sodomayor. That's her comparing chopping a teenage girl's 163 00:10:00.080 --> 00:10:04.200 breastsoft to taking an aspirin. Now we raise our own, 164 00:10:04.480 --> 00:10:07.440 we nurture our own, and now it makes it harder 165 00:10:07.480 --> 00:10:11.639 because it's internal. Okay, all right, somebody wants to know 166 00:10:11.679 --> 00:10:15.080 a little bit about history. Some of my favorite military leaders. 167 00:10:15.120 --> 00:10:20.240 That's fun. Hang on, it is the Jesse Kelly Show 168 00:10:20.480 --> 00:10:24.120 on a Friday. Remember you can email the show Jesse 169 00:10:24.480 --> 00:10:27.519 at Jesse kellyshow dot com. You can leave us a 170 00:10:27.600 --> 00:10:32.360 voicemail eight seven seven three seven seven four three seven three. 171 00:10:32.559 --> 00:10:37.120 Dear promoter of Nie Sleeve, of the Nie Sleeve Industrial Complex. 172 00:10:37.360 --> 00:10:42.320 I'll have you know my knee sleeve has been very effective, 173 00:10:43.080 --> 00:10:46.639 very yet has Chris. It's been amazing. Listen, whenever I 174 00:10:46.679 --> 00:10:49.879 would work out do like lunges or squats or deadlifts 175 00:10:49.960 --> 00:10:52.240 or something like that, my left knee would be so 176 00:10:52.519 --> 00:10:55.919 stiff for the rest of the day. No, it's it's 177 00:10:55.960 --> 00:10:59.519 not some eighty five Chris. Anyway, I got this knee 178 00:10:59.600 --> 00:11:01.879 sleeve and kept saying, try these knee sleeves out. And 179 00:11:01.919 --> 00:11:04.120 I have no idea why it works, but I use 180 00:11:04.240 --> 00:11:08.440 that work like a charm. Granted, Bob is not thrilled 181 00:11:08.440 --> 00:11:11.039 that I walked through the neighborhood with the knee sleeve 182 00:11:11.159 --> 00:11:14.080 on and shorts on. Says it looks doriky and stuff 183 00:11:14.120 --> 00:11:16.759 like that, but very very effective. Jesse my Son is 184 00:11:16.759 --> 00:11:19.360 in his last year of high school. Recently, they did 185 00:11:19.360 --> 00:11:22.240 a project in a history class to rank and explain 186 00:11:22.320 --> 00:11:26.000 their top five military leaders of all time. There are 187 00:11:26.039 --> 00:11:28.320 plenty of legitimate names you could put in a top 188 00:11:28.360 --> 00:11:31.399 five list, but my son decided to put Hannibal in 189 00:11:31.440 --> 00:11:36.320 the number five spot. To his dismay, the history teacher 190 00:11:38.360 --> 00:11:42.840 the way. To his dismay, the history teacher had never 191 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:47.559 even heard of him and had to look him up. 192 00:11:49.200 --> 00:11:52.559 Is this embarrassing for him? Or is this just what 193 00:11:52.639 --> 00:11:56.559 they have for history teachers now? And he says, I wonder, 194 00:11:57.200 --> 00:12:01.440 I'm wondering who you, as a fellow wobbly need history nerd, 195 00:12:01.440 --> 00:12:04.799 would rank as your top five military leaders of all time. 196 00:12:06.039 --> 00:12:10.000 His name is Ryan. There's no way that's true, right 197 00:12:12.159 --> 00:12:17.519 A history teacher doesn't know who Hannibal Barka was. No way, 198 00:12:20.879 --> 00:12:24.120 I guess there's I mean, I have no reason this 199 00:12:24.159 --> 00:12:26.240 guy wouldn't lie. Whyould the guy lie? So I guess 200 00:12:26.279 --> 00:12:31.159 I'll go ahead and take him at his word. One 201 00:12:31.399 --> 00:12:35.519 man that is that is sad, That is truly sad. 202 00:12:36.919 --> 00:12:42.399 Hannibal Barker is Maybe you don't want to ever say 203 00:12:42.399 --> 00:12:48.159 anything for sure, because who knows. But tactically, probably the 204 00:12:48.159 --> 00:12:53.919 greatest general who ever lives. Tactically tactics and strategies or 205 00:12:54.240 --> 00:12:56.799 strategies two different things. And this is let me lay 206 00:12:56.799 --> 00:12:58.960 it out like this, because if we're gonna talk generals 207 00:12:58.960 --> 00:13:01.639 and military leaders, you kind of have to separate the two. 208 00:13:02.279 --> 00:13:06.879 If you're strategically the greatest military commander of all time 209 00:13:07.480 --> 00:13:13.120 is probably Genghis Khan Gegis Why because he facilitate or 210 00:13:13.200 --> 00:13:20.039 he planned and organized these huge or invasions involving different 211 00:13:20.279 --> 00:13:25.399 armies going in from different directions. That's strategy. Strategically is 212 00:13:25.679 --> 00:13:28.440 we're gonna send an army sweeping in through the north, 213 00:13:28.480 --> 00:13:30.879 and this other army is gonna go through the Gobi Desert. 214 00:13:31.159 --> 00:13:36.879 That's strategic thinking. Okay. Tactic thinking tactically is Okay, your 215 00:13:37.000 --> 00:13:39.759 army's over there, My army's over here. We're about to 216 00:13:39.799 --> 00:13:43.480 have a fight. And I see, I see that your 217 00:13:43.559 --> 00:13:47.399 left flank is weak, So I'm gonna put my cavalry 218 00:13:47.440 --> 00:13:49.799 on the left because I'm gonna have them charge into 219 00:13:49.840 --> 00:13:53.039 your left flank, which will hopefully have them collapse and 220 00:13:53.159 --> 00:13:56.759 roll up the rest. That's tactics. Okay. Strategy and tactics 221 00:13:56.759 --> 00:14:00.720 are different things. And remember you need different kinds of 222 00:14:00.879 --> 00:14:04.200 generals for different things, which makes this conversation a really 223 00:14:04.240 --> 00:14:06.679 fun and interesting debate and when I give you some 224 00:14:06.720 --> 00:14:09.120 of mine, I'll get a bunch of emails disagreeing. And 225 00:14:09.159 --> 00:14:11.679 that's totally fun. I love that the history debates and 226 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:16.360 stuff like that is amazing. Uh I would probably put 227 00:14:16.399 --> 00:14:22.799 Hannibal number two. Genghis Khan's number one. Well, I'll put 228 00:14:22.840 --> 00:14:26.039 it to you this way. Ancient times. Get this. Think 229 00:14:26.080 --> 00:14:30.159 how cool this was. At one point Scipio Africanus, the 230 00:14:30.240 --> 00:14:35.600 Roman general, the one who eventually defeated Hannibal. They there's 231 00:14:35.679 --> 00:14:40.200 a record of this. They those two legends, legendary generals 232 00:14:40.240 --> 00:14:41.960 in their own right. They could both be on that list. 233 00:14:42.360 --> 00:14:45.320 They had an argument over who they thought were the 234 00:14:45.360 --> 00:14:48.879 greatest military leaders of all time back then. What would 235 00:14:48.879 --> 00:14:50.320 you have given to be a fly on the wall 236 00:14:50.360 --> 00:14:53.200 to hear that conversation? You know who both of them 237 00:14:53.240 --> 00:14:56.679 had on their list. Tell me, this is wild. Somebody 238 00:14:56.679 --> 00:15:01.159 you don't even think of, Pyrus or Peeris, depending on 239 00:15:01.200 --> 00:15:03.759 how you pronounce you know who Pirus was or Pearis. 240 00:15:04.639 --> 00:15:08.200 You ever heard of a Puric victory? You've never heard 241 00:15:08.240 --> 00:15:12.240 of a Peric victory? Chris Chris said he went to 242 00:15:12.320 --> 00:15:14.799 public school. Okay, all right, let's have a little lesson 243 00:15:14.840 --> 00:15:18.320 for Chris. Whenever you hear somebody say it was a 244 00:15:18.399 --> 00:15:25.080 puic victory, it means you won in the short term, 245 00:15:25.720 --> 00:15:30.879 but winning in the short term was so costly that 246 00:15:31.039 --> 00:15:36.679 you will lose in the end. Pearis was a Greek general. 247 00:15:37.440 --> 00:15:41.320 He fought the Romans and beat the crap out of 248 00:15:41.360 --> 00:15:44.480 the Romans. But at Peis Chris, if you're looking up, 249 00:15:44.519 --> 00:15:48.000 it's p y p y are Okay, Peeris. Anyway, he 250 00:15:48.120 --> 00:15:51.519 was this incredible Greek general who would beat the crap 251 00:15:51.559 --> 00:15:54.240 out of the Romans whenever he fought them. But he 252 00:15:54.320 --> 00:15:58.200 didn't have enough reinforcement troops, and so he would fight 253 00:15:58.279 --> 00:16:01.279 and he would win, but he would so many troops 254 00:16:01.279 --> 00:16:05.200 in the process. In the end he couldn't withstand the losses. 255 00:16:05.360 --> 00:16:08.799 So yes, the battle itself was won, but in the 256 00:16:08.919 --> 00:16:13.080 end he lost the war because the battle was so costly. 257 00:16:13.320 --> 00:16:16.039 That's called like if you're a boxer and you come 258 00:16:16.080 --> 00:16:19.320 out one round and you beat the living crap out 259 00:16:19.320 --> 00:16:21.679 of the guy you're fighting against, but you don't knock 260 00:16:21.759 --> 00:16:25.240 him out, and in so doing you gash yourself out 261 00:16:25.279 --> 00:16:27.799 so you can't lift your arms up anymore. And then 262 00:16:27.840 --> 00:16:29.320 he comes out and he beats you up in the 263 00:16:29.360 --> 00:16:32.200 next round and wins the fight that first round where 264 00:16:32.240 --> 00:16:35.080 you won. That was a pyrrhic victory. It was great 265 00:16:35.120 --> 00:16:37.519 for you, but the fighting of the battle cost it. 266 00:16:37.600 --> 00:16:41.879 So anyway, back to Hannibal and Skip Africanus, those two 267 00:16:42.559 --> 00:16:46.279 both agreed that Peeris was on that list. Most people 268 00:16:46.279 --> 00:16:48.399 don't even know who Pieris was. She Wish producer Christy 269 00:16:48.399 --> 00:16:50.840 didn't even know who he was. So there are names 270 00:16:50.879 --> 00:16:53.960 on that list that are interesting. Anyway, it's an interesting conversation. 271 00:16:54.039 --> 00:16:55.600 I'll touch on it a little bit more than we'll 272 00:16:55.639 --> 00:16:58.799 go back to modern politics and the GOP and other stuff. 273 00:16:58.879 --> 00:17:04.519 Now that is It is the Jesse Kelly Show on 274 00:17:04.720 --> 00:17:07.359 a Friday. Remember if you missed any part of the show, 275 00:17:07.359 --> 00:17:12.359 you can download the whole thing. iHeart Spotify, iTunes. So 276 00:17:13.039 --> 00:17:17.680 greatest military Commanders of all time. Genghis Khan's number one 277 00:17:17.920 --> 00:17:22.839 in my book. Hannibal is number two in my book. 278 00:17:23.599 --> 00:17:30.079 And when it comes to generals, to be honest, your 279 00:17:30.160 --> 00:17:35.839 top ten, like three or four should probably be Genghis 280 00:17:35.920 --> 00:17:42.160 Khan's generals Suba Di Genghis Khans really his supreme military commander. 281 00:17:42.160 --> 00:17:46.759 For the most part, Suba Di Subad probably stands on 282 00:17:46.799 --> 00:17:50.000 his own as one of the great generals of all time. 283 00:17:50.000 --> 00:17:52.160 There's a book told you about it for a very 284 00:17:52.240 --> 00:17:54.319 very short book, but you will love it. You will 285 00:17:54.319 --> 00:17:55.880 geek out. If you are a history nerd, you will 286 00:17:55.920 --> 00:17:58.519 geek out on it. Chris, make sure I'm right about this. 287 00:17:58.759 --> 00:18:01.519 I think it's called subad I the Valiant, subad I 288 00:18:01.680 --> 00:18:04.039 the Valiant. I think it is. Oh gosh, it's so good. 289 00:18:04.079 --> 00:18:08.839 Subad I. I should clarify s u b s ub 290 00:18:09.160 --> 00:18:10.839 is what you need to be. That's how it starts, 291 00:18:10.839 --> 00:18:14.359 subad I. And I think it's at Ai. But sometimes 292 00:18:14.400 --> 00:18:17.079 when people say things on the radio, it used to 293 00:18:17.079 --> 00:18:19.519 frustrate me when I was trying to nerd out on something. 294 00:18:19.799 --> 00:18:22.119 I couldn't tell exactly what they were saying or how 295 00:18:22.160 --> 00:18:25.240 to look it up. Sub suba die anyway, Chrystal will 296 00:18:25.240 --> 00:18:26.559 get me. The exact name of the book is really 297 00:18:26.559 --> 00:18:29.920 great book. Subad I. No, no, suberd. I wouldn't be third. 298 00:18:31.160 --> 00:18:34.079 I know you're probably screaming at the radio about Alexander 299 00:18:34.119 --> 00:18:38.000 the Great, so I should probably make him third. I 300 00:18:38.039 --> 00:18:41.640 should clarify why he's not number one for me. For me, 301 00:18:43.440 --> 00:18:46.599 Alexander the Great was incredible in every way, and the 302 00:18:46.720 --> 00:18:50.880 fact that the historical people, the Romans, all those people, 303 00:18:51.200 --> 00:18:53.559 they all thought he was the best. Like that, that 304 00:18:53.640 --> 00:18:56.160 conversation I was just I was just telling you about 305 00:18:56.160 --> 00:18:59.960 between Scipio Africanus and Hannibal, they both agreed. Alexander the 306 00:19:00.039 --> 00:19:02.720 greats number one. So obviously we have to give that 307 00:19:02.759 --> 00:19:05.240 a lot of credence. They were more contemporaries of his 308 00:19:05.319 --> 00:19:08.200 than we are. But the reason he's third on my 309 00:19:08.319 --> 00:19:14.039 list is this. Alexander the Great's father, Philip the Second, 310 00:19:14.960 --> 00:19:23.000 was an incredible military conqueror and builder of the Macedonian Empire. 311 00:19:23.400 --> 00:19:26.680 His father, Philip the Second, defeated virtually all the other 312 00:19:26.720 --> 00:19:31.799 Greek city states and unified one gigantic Greece, completely reformed 313 00:19:31.799 --> 00:19:36.519 their army into being a juggernaut, and he had already 314 00:19:36.759 --> 00:19:41.839 established a foothold over in the Persian Empire. He was 315 00:19:41.920 --> 00:19:45.400 already planning on an invasion when he got assassinated. Someone 316 00:19:45.400 --> 00:19:47.400 slipped the dagger between his ribs at a wedding. It 317 00:19:47.440 --> 00:19:49.759 was a big old hubbub thing, as you can imagine. 318 00:19:49.880 --> 00:19:52.799 But this is not to take away from Alexander the Great, 319 00:19:52.839 --> 00:19:57.079 who was absurdly brave and tactically was amazing. He was 320 00:19:57.279 --> 00:20:02.759 all those things. He really was propped up to be 321 00:20:02.920 --> 00:20:05.400 this subid eye. The Valiant. I knew I was right. 322 00:20:05.440 --> 00:20:06.960 Super Dye the Valiant is the name of the book. 323 00:20:07.039 --> 00:20:10.000 Alexander the Great really was destined for it. 324 00:20:10.079 --> 00:20:10.480 Like h. 325 00:20:12.640 --> 00:20:14.960 Today, you want to know how I know I'm getting old? 326 00:20:15.039 --> 00:20:15.480 That's you know. 327 00:20:15.559 --> 00:20:15.680 I know. 328 00:20:16.079 --> 00:20:19.880 I know I'm getting old. I'm starting to get back 329 00:20:19.920 --> 00:20:22.359 into baseball again more and more. As I soured on 330 00:20:22.400 --> 00:20:25.400 the other professional sports I used to love, I'm starting 331 00:20:25.400 --> 00:20:28.359 to enjoy baseball more and more. The patriotism of it 332 00:20:28.400 --> 00:20:30.720 is better. It's a better family environment. I'm really I'm 333 00:20:30.720 --> 00:20:32.279 that old guy. Now. I'm starting to get back into 334 00:20:32.279 --> 00:20:36.759 baseball a lot. And you know what's difficult about it, 335 00:20:38.680 --> 00:20:44.880 I am now watching the sons of the players I 336 00:20:44.920 --> 00:20:48.960 grew up watching when I was a child. I grew 337 00:20:49.039 --> 00:20:55.000 up rooting for Dante Boschett. His son Bobashett plays in 338 00:20:55.039 --> 00:20:58.039 the Majors. When I was a kid, we used to 339 00:20:58.079 --> 00:21:00.640 go in the backyard because that was back when kids 340 00:21:00.640 --> 00:21:03.480 played outside. We used to go in the backyard and 341 00:21:03.519 --> 00:21:06.559 we would have these with football tournaments where you had 342 00:21:06.559 --> 00:21:09.839 to have the batting stance and swing of your favorite players, 343 00:21:09.839 --> 00:21:11.960 and you would pick your favorite players. I'm Frank Thomas 344 00:21:11.960 --> 00:21:14.160 and I'm Cam Griffrey Junior. We pitched to each other 345 00:21:14.200 --> 00:21:16.880 and things like that. When I was a kid, I 346 00:21:16.960 --> 00:21:21.359 used to bat all the time as Vladimir Guerrero. You 347 00:21:21.440 --> 00:21:23.599 know who one of the best hitters in baseball is now, 348 00:21:24.480 --> 00:21:29.440 Vladimir Guerrero Junior. I'm having to watch his sun fine anyway, 349 00:21:29.720 --> 00:21:32.839 But think about think about Vladimir Guerrero Junior's life. And 350 00:21:32.839 --> 00:21:34.440 I don't know anything about him, and I'm not certainly 351 00:21:34.440 --> 00:21:35.960 not bad bathing him at all or anything like that. 352 00:21:36.319 --> 00:21:38.119 Maybe a wonderful guy or a bad guy. I don't know. 353 00:21:38.759 --> 00:21:43.319 But think about how he grew up. Think about the 354 00:21:43.359 --> 00:21:45.839 tutelage he grew up. I grew up as a young 355 00:21:45.880 --> 00:21:48.920 man on construction sites. When I saw my dad at work, 356 00:21:49.000 --> 00:21:51.920 it was during construction. No matter what it was, construction 357 00:21:52.359 --> 00:21:57.160 that was my upbringing. Vladimir Guerrero grew up in Major 358 00:21:57.240 --> 00:22:02.240 League baseball clubhouses, getting two in schooling from the greatest 359 00:22:02.279 --> 00:22:06.279 baseball players on the planet. That's not being dismissive of 360 00:22:06.319 --> 00:22:08.200 the hard work I'm sure he had to put in 361 00:22:08.519 --> 00:22:10.799 to rise to the level of being a major League 362 00:22:10.839 --> 00:22:13.759 baseball player. But I think we can all acknowledge. That's 363 00:22:13.799 --> 00:22:17.200 a fairly big advantage. It's not an accident. The Manning 364 00:22:17.240 --> 00:22:20.000 brothers and everyone in that family seems to be a 365 00:22:20.000 --> 00:22:23.000 great quarterback and goes to the NFL. The one of 366 00:22:23.039 --> 00:22:25.880 them is now currently at Texas. Think what it's like 367 00:22:25.920 --> 00:22:29.119 for him sitting down at Thanksgiving. He's got Archie Manning, 368 00:22:29.279 --> 00:22:31.960 Peyton Manning, and Eli Manning. While you and I are 369 00:22:32.000 --> 00:22:36.200 screwing off in the backyard playing smear the playing football 370 00:22:36.240 --> 00:22:40.279 games in the backyard at Thanksgiving, he's getting expert tutelage 371 00:22:40.359 --> 00:22:42.359 on this is how you drop back again. So back 372 00:22:42.400 --> 00:22:45.799 to Alexander the Great, not taking anything away from him. 373 00:22:45.920 --> 00:22:50.920 His father was a beast and absolute beast and really 374 00:22:50.960 --> 00:22:54.039 put him on third base. Yeah he did great with it, 375 00:22:54.119 --> 00:22:56.279 but one of those born on third base things. Jesse, 376 00:22:56.599 --> 00:22:59.480 I'm from Mississippi and we had a ge We have 377 00:22:59.519 --> 00:23:02.559 a geo peace Senator Wicker who desperately needs to be 378 00:23:02.599 --> 00:23:05.400 primaried out of the Senate. Yes he does. We had 379 00:23:05.400 --> 00:23:09.039 a great candidate last time, but unfortunately the entrenchment was 380 00:23:09.079 --> 00:23:13.519 too deep. Why don't we select a broadly disliked GOP 381 00:23:13.759 --> 00:23:16.920 senator like Lindsay Graham, for whose opponent it should be 382 00:23:16.960 --> 00:23:19.799 easier to raise a lot of cash. I'm not wealthy, 383 00:23:19.839 --> 00:23:22.160 but I would send money to a good candidate worthy 384 00:23:22.200 --> 00:23:25.599 of taking Lindsay's seat. Well, a touchd onn this yesterday, 385 00:23:25.599 --> 00:23:27.440 and we will touch on this a lot because this 386 00:23:27.519 --> 00:23:29.559 is something that I'm going to focus on a lot 387 00:23:29.599 --> 00:23:35.599 on this show, is defeating GOP senators in blood red 388 00:23:35.640 --> 00:23:40.279 states in their primaries. But I'm gonna tell you right now, 389 00:23:41.240 --> 00:23:44.400 it's going to be hard, you know that, and it's 390 00:23:44.440 --> 00:23:48.119 going to probably take us some time because, as I 391 00:23:48.200 --> 00:23:54.200 laid out, to defeat an incumbent senator, it is going 392 00:23:54.279 --> 00:24:00.599 to require one guy, not a crowded field. That's usually 393 00:24:00.599 --> 00:24:03.079 what happens. You get four or five guys challenging the 394 00:24:03.119 --> 00:24:07.119 main guy. It has to be one guy. And that 395 00:24:07.359 --> 00:24:09.720 one guy not only has to be good, he has 396 00:24:09.799 --> 00:24:13.400 to be an anti communist like us. He has to 397 00:24:13.440 --> 00:24:16.839 be able to raise money on his own. And I 398 00:24:16.880 --> 00:24:18.960 know you're thinking, well, we'll raise him money. Yeah, well 399 00:24:19.359 --> 00:24:22.960 I will help, obviously, you will help, will help. We 400 00:24:22.960 --> 00:24:26.720 we're talking thirty forty million dollars. That's probably a bare 401 00:24:26.759 --> 00:24:29.039