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Speaker 5: Your life when it comes crashing down and it hurts inside,
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Speaker 6: A stand and don't have to hide.
Speaker 7: I just love the business. There's nothing else like it.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Quick Hands Rugby Leay Podcast, Season three,
Speaker 1: episode nineteen. That's one hundred and ten And as you
Speaker 1: just heard, we're paying a special tribute tonight to the
Speaker 1: greatest professional athlete of all time, the Great Hulk Hogan
Speaker 1: sadly passed away along with Ozzy Osborne last week, which
Speaker 1: is which is horrible. We lost a couple of legends.
Speaker 1: But bringing in ten and George welcome, guys.
Speaker 8: Hey, hell what a week and what a week and
Speaker 8: a week and we've got a special guest start tonight,
Speaker 8: the other brother in law, Andy Andrew GOLDGENI welcome.
Speaker 4: How are you guys? Pleasure to be here.
Speaker 8: Our listeners would probably remember Andrea because you guys did
Speaker 8: the soccer pot It's the biggest reigning show we've ever had,
Speaker 8: so I'm sure there's a.
Speaker 1: Lot of job. So we're just going to spend a
Speaker 1: couple of minutes. We're just going to spend a couple
Speaker 1: of minutes talking about the whole star paying tribute.
Speaker 4: I got the news.
Speaker 1: I was actually out taking his place on Friday morning
Speaker 1: when I when I saw the news, a bit of
Speaker 1: a shock to me. For those who don't know, a
Speaker 1: huge part of my childhood I think Andrew we met
Speaker 1: when I was twelve.
Speaker 4: Instant attraction because Nick like wrestling and all instant.
Speaker 1: Yeah, instant and just a massive part of my childhood.
Speaker 4: Anyway.
Speaker 1: And from the song that you just heard, which is
Speaker 1: his famous intro song, I want to I want to
Speaker 1: recite a few lines which which is the soundtrack to
Speaker 1: my childhood. When you think about it, when it comes
Speaker 1: crashing down and it hurts inside, you've got to be
Speaker 1: a man. You don't have to hide. If you hurt
Speaker 1: my friends, then you hurt my pride. I got to
Speaker 1: be a man. I can't let it slide. I feel
Speaker 1: strong about right and wrong, and I don't trouble for
Speaker 1: very long. I got something deep inside of me. Courage
Speaker 1: is the thing that keeps us free. That's the soundtrack
Speaker 1: to my childood. Yeah, that's Hogan's intro song. So he
Speaker 1: was a hero to me. And there's one funny story
Speaker 1: I'd like to share from when I was fourteen going
Speaker 1: on fifteen, when we were in Europe yep. It was
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety and WrestleMania six and the main event was
Speaker 1: Whole Hogan versus the Ultimate Warrior title versus title her.
Speaker 1: Hogan was the world champion. Warrior was the intercontinental champion.
Speaker 1: You've got to remember in nineteen ninety there's no Internet,
Speaker 1: there's no we couldn't find out who won. Absolutely, we
Speaker 1: couldn't find out who won. And in the month of
Speaker 1: I think it was May of that year or June,
Speaker 1: we were traveling around Europe for a month.
Speaker 4: It was before the World Cup.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, May so Andrew, myself and my two sisters,
Speaker 1: obviously your wife and my other sister were traveling around
Speaker 1: Europe and there was no way of knowing who won
Speaker 1: the match. So we went around Europe by train, and
Speaker 1: every train station had a had a news agency, a
Speaker 1: newspaper stand. So every city that we arrived in, I'd
Speaker 1: get off the train and spread to the news stand. No, no,
Speaker 1: no wrestling magazine, No wrestling magazine.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: It happened three or four cities, you know. Then we
Speaker 1: got to Munich in Germany. I remember that day, and
Speaker 1: I ran to the newspaper stand and as I got closer,
Speaker 1: I saw a picture of the Ultimate Warrior holding two
Speaker 1: ready to almost dropped to my knees, and I think
Speaker 1: Andy will tell you as well. Both of my sisters.
Speaker 1: I didn't speak to anyone for about two days.
Speaker 4: Wow, I didn't.
Speaker 1: Speak to anyone for about two days, so I was
Speaker 1: very upset. Little did I know he lost he dropped
Speaker 1: the belt because he was going off to shoot a movie.
Speaker 4: We thought it was real, you know, we didn't know.
Speaker 1: So yeah, massive part of my childhood.
Speaker 4: I remember pulling up. I'd go on when I was
Speaker 4: dating Lawiser, come in the driveway and Nick and all
Speaker 4: his mates would be there or dressed as Hogan and
Speaker 4: come out and try and wrestle me and bash me
Speaker 4: and all that.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 4: It was. It was great, It was good. It was
Speaker 4: memories you'll never forget. Yeah, it's one of those things,
Speaker 4: you know, the first besh hock bish and everyone I used.
Speaker 1: To I used to wrestle my pillow and an old
Speaker 1: mattress that we had in the back yard. I beat it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, big thing for me. Yeah, it's I've had
Speaker 1: two epiphanies. Uh, that was one of them the first time.
Speaker 4: Another thing is too And I used to work as
Speaker 4: a news agency at five Dog, so she'd get all
Speaker 4: the wrestling magazines. We'd go over. I'd go to Slaiser,
Speaker 4: but very just here you go. And then I was
Speaker 4: more interested in the wrestling magazines. When about.
Speaker 1: It's one of those things you know, and and hearing
Speaker 1: about his death is one of those things you don't forget.
Speaker 1: And I was at your place when that happened, so
Speaker 1: that's uh had a better place to be, so that
Speaker 1: would be that's with me.
Speaker 8: So when the first time he actually saw the whole
Speaker 8: on the Moon, Nick had the no, it was Roughie three.
Speaker 4: Really, I saw him before that. I didn't. I saw
Speaker 4: him because I was when I was in the seventies.
Speaker 4: He used to have Australian wrestling show, yes, and Andre
Speaker 4: the Giant came out and wrestled in the Royal Rumble,
Speaker 4: and it was an Australian wrestler called Larry O Day,
Speaker 4: Ronnie Miller, Sonny Dalton, a few of the names. I
Speaker 4: was only a little bit used to watched these guys
Speaker 4: and I've been all of them. And I remember Andre
Speaker 4: the Giant won the Royal Rumble and he picked up
Speaker 4: Ronnie Miller and LARRYO Day on both Farmers and I
Speaker 4: was in awe of that. I don't know, plenty good
Speaker 4: and then I started liking wrestling. So then I did
Speaker 4: a bit of research and they showed on wide world
Speaker 4: of sports. They showed whole Cogan once. Yeah, but he
Speaker 4: was he had the atomic bomb, he's his chest hair
Speaker 4: was I shaved like an at time.
Speaker 1: I only ever missed one school disco in high school,
Speaker 1: and it was the very first one in year seven
Speaker 1: to stay home and watch WrestleMania three.
Speaker 4: I nearly got dropped by his sister because I was
Speaker 4: still to watch. Yeah, next person go out on a date,
Speaker 4: and I made a pretend I was sick. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: that was that was. I always got the ships, but
Speaker 4: I still to watch wrestling.
Speaker 1: And that was the night that he body slams under
Speaker 1: the Giant. And for those of you who are watching
Speaker 1: on YouTube, you know I'm not looking at my laptop
Speaker 1: when I say twenty ninth and March nine eighty seven
Speaker 1: at the Pontier Silver Dome in Detroit, Michigan, in front
Speaker 1: of a world indoor record of ninety three one hundred
Speaker 1: and seventy three people beat the record of beat the
Speaker 1: record of the Rolling Stones previously set in Memphis.
Speaker 4: There you go.
Speaker 1: So maybe now we should talk forty Yeah, sure, rest
Speaker 1: in peace Wolk style.
Speaker 4: Just a quick thing. Just don't want to ask short answer. Yeah,
Speaker 4: what does Holp mean to you, yeah, because I know
Speaker 4: how passionate you are about you, man. But I've seen
Speaker 4: him grow up from eleven, and it was always about.
Speaker 1: Hope and belief. Hope and belief. My dad died when
Speaker 1: I was eleven, so so that things like Hulk, Cogan
Speaker 1: and Kiss and anything that got me away from reality.
Speaker 1: I was able to escape what I was going through
Speaker 1: and jump into something else. And Hogan what what was?
Speaker 1: What were the three things? He always said? So your prayer,
Speaker 1: so your prayers, train and need your vitamins, and take
Speaker 1: Royd's and take roads. He didn't say that, but he
Speaker 1: just he just made you believe that if, if, if
Speaker 1: you believe in something, it's only a matter of time
Speaker 1: before everyone around you will start to believe in it too.
Speaker 4: You got you gotta remember, George. I mean, I've seen
Speaker 4: a kid, and I could say because I was older,
Speaker 4: and I've seen a kid that the passion he had
Speaker 4: for wrestling as a kid, just watching him grow. I've
Speaker 4: seen Nick grow up for you, and you saw it.
Speaker 4: You can come a bit later on, but later on
Speaker 4: I saw him. He was a kid and he and
Speaker 4: I saw the passion he had in him about this
Speaker 4: wrestling and this this whole world revolved around wrestling, you know,
Speaker 4: and I just thought, how good is this? You know?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hagan just represents it's good to shit back and
Speaker 1: watch it.
Speaker 8: I remember when I first met you, blokes, the three things, soccer,
Speaker 8: kiss and Hogan. Yeah, I don't know if there was
Speaker 8: I was a kids but not more. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 8: I know, but that's I remember. I remember those three
Speaker 8: things that are dominant in our lives. You feel like
Speaker 8: a kid now when I think about it.
Speaker 4: But he just.
Speaker 1: He as a kid when you're looking at this larger
Speaker 1: than life character who we were lucky enough to get
Speaker 1: to see live ringside. Yeah, it's just it's a massive part.
Speaker 4: I remember Tiam when we went and saw it. Tim
Speaker 4: Tim's words when he said, mate, you'll never say this again.
Speaker 4: Sounds like a fifty eight or old men talking about wrestling,
Speaker 4: But I'm passionate. Was part of my life. And what they're.
Speaker 8: Alluding to is they actually seen the whole Hogan wrestle
Speaker 8: Rick Flair.
Speaker 4: And was ring Nix good with dates? Yeah so seventeen.
Speaker 8: As and as as their friend as his friend said
Speaker 8: that they'll never see that again, and they didn't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very shocking to here that news on Friday morning.
Speaker 1: But like I said, I couldn't have been in the
Speaker 1: better spot. So let's move on.
Speaker 8: And just to sum it up, obviously it wasn't a
Speaker 8: big part of my life because but because I'm in
Speaker 8: the family, went and I told me, my wife told me,
Speaker 8: I just got a nott in my throat.
Speaker 4: And the first the first thing I thought, I was
Speaker 4: up in Brisbane mind and that's what I thought.
Speaker 1: I was getting text message from everyone like like my
Speaker 1: uncle died something. Yeah, anyway, anyway, let's talk for let's
Speaker 1: talk for it. Have we got any controversity to.
Speaker 4: What did you say?
Speaker 8: What's happening at three sixty Rodby?
Speaker 2: That was really nice, guys. I love hearing stories about
Speaker 2: things like that.
Speaker 9: That was beautiful and it's also nice, I guess for
Speaker 9: everyone else to when you bring that nostalgia in from
Speaker 9: your childhood and stuff, that's beautiful.
Speaker 2: I think those heaps of controversy. I think the most
Speaker 2: controversial thing was Nick bringing his eels luck to suncop Stadium.
Speaker 2: But yeah, there's a few three sixty I don't know,
Speaker 2: Hughes perhaps, I think perhaps probably the big one that's
Speaker 2: going to go to three sixty and they're pretty clever. Hey,
Speaker 2: getting the people on board now, right, it's not going.
Speaker 1: To fit over their headset, so it'll fit. I'm a
Speaker 1: man of my word for a couple of minutes. Anyway,
Speaker 1: what do I look like?
Speaker 2: And I'm sure we'll talk about in the round, but yeah,
Speaker 2: just issues with wa wasshey?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 2: And do we talk about the post spray that has
Speaker 2: had We did a little bit last week. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: was still carrying on from from the whole of last week. Anyway,
Speaker 2: nothing too crazy, rest spaniship as usual.
Speaker 8: I think from the spray must have worked beause they
Speaker 8: want so that he should just keep on splaying them
Speaker 8: to mm hm.
Speaker 2: Possibly that's.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Do we have anything else? Well, have you got
Speaker 4: any anything? What's your good thing of the week? Religious?
Speaker 4: He was always known as the immortal.
Speaker 8: Legacy, his legacy and and and I wasn't sure if
Speaker 8: you're going to ask me that, but.
Speaker 4: His legacy on forever.
Speaker 8: That was the first thing that came onto my mind
Speaker 8: when I thought about it. Was just his legacy and
Speaker 8: he'll be forever the end. The good thing is that
Speaker 8: generations of the generations will know he.
Speaker 4: Brought a sport that was territorial in America, in everyone's house,
Speaker 4: you know, all the homes. You made a mainstream. He
Speaker 4: made a mainstream. You could go on Mount Everest and
Speaker 4: speak to one of the shirts there, show him a
Speaker 4: picture of whole cog and that's how hell.
Speaker 8: That's there's not many of them. There's not many of them,
Speaker 8: but he's definitely one of them. Yeah, yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 8: my good thing of the week is the whollekslam his legacy.
Speaker 8: And I'll ask you about who's in Nicholas bin, but
Speaker 8: I don't know if you got something prepared Nicola.
Speaker 1: Uh well sorry, Tan, I'll apologize in the fact the
Speaker 1: dumb ship at some Corps days and we had to
Speaker 1: go on me because my earls jacket.
Speaker 4: What about the ears jacket?
Speaker 1: I was wearing my earls jacket and one guy, one
Speaker 1: guy walked past and he goes, guys, are yes ship
Speaker 1: shirt Friday, gome your fucking loser, some random back. I said,
Speaker 1: I said, come the fuck you will see the loser
Speaker 1: and he didn't come over.
Speaker 4: So yeah, oh well, it's well.
Speaker 2: It made up for the guy that I almost got
Speaker 2: into a fight with behind us, who was wearing the
Speaker 2: eels sing and He's like, Queensland don't get and I
Speaker 2: was like, pretty sure, you've had five wins at it,
Speaker 2: like in the last twenty years, mate to jog On.
Speaker 2: So we both paid it back, but we were very
Speaker 2: protective of Nick. I actually had a really great time.
Speaker 1: I've got to tell you, and we'll get to the
Speaker 1: game when we cover it. But I felt terrible. I
Speaker 1: said to Ten about I don't know. Five minutes before
Speaker 1: full time parill were leading, said I've seen this movie.
Speaker 1: I know how it ends exactly what I thought. Bang
Speaker 1: Broncos went over in the last minute, and you know,
Speaker 1: thirty eight thirty nine thousand and nine hundred and ninety
Speaker 1: eight people went up and Ten just put a hand
Speaker 1: on my shoulder.
Speaker 4: I felt bad, yeah, because it wasn't a try. The
Speaker 4: riddles one.
Speaker 8: Of actually actually I'm going to I'm going to feel
Speaker 8: good to know sorry too. But I actually enjoyed the
Speaker 8: aftermath of that. How happy Ryce Walden then how disappointed.
Speaker 10: That I was laughing yeah, and then he just went
Speaker 10: bang yeah, and if Nick like I was the only
Speaker 10: one that didn't stand up because I didn't think that
Speaker 10: was a try from where I.
Speaker 4: Was knocked it on good eyes knocked it on. It
Speaker 4: was off.
Speaker 2: Also, I was driving. I was a designated driver, so it.
Speaker 4: Wasn't Yeah I was.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so intoxicated. How about we get into the week.
Speaker 1: It was let's it so the Storm and the Roosters
Speaker 1: on Thursday night, Storm thirty four points to thirty over
Speaker 1: of the Roosters.
Speaker 4: In a titewe. Well what a game. I didn't catch
Speaker 4: most of this game.
Speaker 8: No, no, well what a game this was. It was
Speaker 8: a beautiful mess. Look, it was the points first. Obviously
Speaker 8: thirty thirty thirty to thirty four D was not a priority. Guys,
Speaker 8: D was not not a priority. Two Bay scored two
Speaker 8: early tries. I really really enjoyed the ball movement on
Speaker 8: both teams. They really gave it some mair. I'm not
Speaker 8: sure about Melbourne and look, I I know that there's injuries.
Speaker 8: I know that they lost Hughes and what's his name
Speaker 8: took over. Granted took over. I realized that. But I'm
Speaker 8: not sold because and they're still favorites for win the comp.
Speaker 1: But I'm really notice I think those shot when it matters. Yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: here's will be back for the semis.
Speaker 4: He will be explained it to me. Melbourne traditionally done
Speaker 4: let in a lot of points. Well this is what
Speaker 4: I'm I've been seated all year where they're just letting
Speaker 4: in a lot of points, and.
Speaker 8: And and and and that that. See, the team who
Speaker 8: scores a lot of points doesn't win the camp. If
Speaker 8: you always go back, it's the team it's got the
Speaker 8: best the best defense, or the second best defense that's worse,
Speaker 8: the third best defense. Well, these two teams will forget
Speaker 8: are still in development and and you know what where
Speaker 8: they started this year to now, even if they don't
Speaker 8: win another game, Yeah, they've unearthed a lots of good talent.
Speaker 8: But Storm, when you when you look at the Storm
Speaker 8: and you look at the list, you're talking rings. They
Speaker 8: play for rings when they do the preseason. They don't
Speaker 8: say I hope we make the eight. No, we're going
Speaker 8: to win a ring. This is the way we're going
Speaker 8: to win a ring.
Speaker 4: And they're not.
Speaker 8: They're not convincing. The only good thing is that Grant
Speaker 8: took over. Well he took over when he had to
Speaker 8: take over. And besides that, it was it was an
Speaker 8: exciting game. But I knew that when a team scores
Speaker 8: thirty and the other score team scores thirty four. Again,
Speaker 8: it's great to watch. I don't take it. I don't
Speaker 8: take it seriously in terms of a high quality match.
Speaker 8: But it was as I called it, it was a beautiful mess.
Speaker 8: It was just a take on attack on the waves
Speaker 8: of attack of both both sides. And I didn't know
Speaker 8: who was going to win.
Speaker 4: Actually a bit of a soccer game because you score three,
Speaker 4: I score four.
Speaker 8: Yeah, was complaining about it a four past. It was
Speaker 8: a forward part. Hey, you know what, you caught one,
Speaker 8: you give one, it all, it all you. Howard's try
Speaker 8: was spectacular the center. What he's goored. That was a
Speaker 8: great try. And there was a lot of great tries,
Speaker 8: a lot of great tries.
Speaker 4: In this game.
Speaker 8: And they, I got to admit, both of them in
Speaker 8: terms of ball in hand, were really high completion. But
Speaker 8: when he came to the defense, no one was covering
Speaker 8: from the inside. They weren't they weren't sliding. They missed
Speaker 8: tackles like very very un Melbourne like. Yeah for both
Speaker 8: so but look I said again, roosters are whatever they do,
Speaker 8: it doesn't really matter. They're not going to make the aid.
Speaker 8: But they've had a sensational season. But yeah, I'm not
Speaker 8: sure about Let's see.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't read into it too much. What is what
Speaker 4: your thoughts?
Speaker 2: They've been They've been stuffing around since a ship game.
Speaker 2: They did all the dancing, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and they were. They keep going between second and third
Speaker 2: and I've had some pretty close misses, close wins. Like
Speaker 2: it's almost like they they just seemed to take it seriously.
Speaker 2: We're halfway through, you know what I mean. And it's
Speaker 2: almost a bit like I like Melbourne, but they always
Speaker 2: have that air of arrogance where, yeah, they know they're
Speaker 2: going to be in the Premiership and I will be
Speaker 2: so bored if it will be Panthers. Panthers, you know,
Speaker 2: Penrith and Melbourne.
Speaker 4: Penrith.
Speaker 2: We didn't think they would come back in like round nine,
Speaker 2: and they did.
Speaker 4: There was so much to come back from.
Speaker 8: But look at the moment, and I told Andrew, they're
Speaker 8: not back, but they're alive penri Mind you, I did see.
Speaker 8: I actually went to that game, the Penrith and the
Speaker 8: West game, and I did enjoy. I did enjoy watching
Speaker 8: them hold down a game and I didn't watch. I
Speaker 8: did enjoy watching Nathan incomplete control. But I walked away thinking, well, yeah,
Speaker 8: they're not the tended they were last year.
Speaker 4: But anyway, we're not going we're not going there yet.
Speaker 4: We're not going there yet. That's you know what.
Speaker 8: That's that's all I can say about that game.
Speaker 4: It didn't inspine me.
Speaker 8: I was watching pictures and I was watching people scoring tries.
Speaker 8: I wasn't even analyzing the defense because that's that's what
Speaker 8: that's what I'm into, the tactics of the defense.
Speaker 4: And it didn't really inspire me. Loud of you.
Speaker 1: The next game was special for two reasons. Was that
Speaker 1: it was a really good game. Yeah, where this is
Speaker 1: going the Cowboys thirty eight points over the Dragon. No,
Speaker 1: it was I mean that a game. Maybe it wasn't
Speaker 1: good in terms of it was exciting. It was close Cowboys.
Speaker 1: And the second reason is I watched it at the Cats.
Speaker 4: Then that's it's a different.
Speaker 2: Around by Queenslanders actually actually tipped the Cowboys because everyone's
Speaker 2: like going over dragons and I was like, no, homes
Speaker 2: isn't in playing at home? You know, one last shot.
Speaker 2: Maybe their coach did a bit of a dizzy spray
Speaker 2: last week. But yeah, it was good game, didn't destroy them.
Speaker 4: It was a good. Game was close. What did you see?
Speaker 4: What do you watch? Well, I mean it's I think
Speaker 4: when we left the cast and I think.
Speaker 2: It don't have twenty minutes to go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it was very close. But then the Cowboys
Speaker 4: blew it out.
Speaker 1: But then I saw the Dragons came back to within
Speaker 1: six points, so it was it must have been a
Speaker 1: few tri scores in the last fifteen minutes or so.
Speaker 4: Did you watch it? Yea, yeah, what do you think? George?
Speaker 4: Defense was pretty I was pressed, but I didn't he's good.
Speaker 4: He saved up. Yeah, both teams were. I don't like
Speaker 4: sir George when they lose, you know what, Yeah, you
Speaker 4: know what annoys You know what annoys me.
Speaker 8: George does what they did last week against Canterbury, a ballsy,
Speaker 8: really physical defensive effort. And then they go up up
Speaker 8: to North Queensland and middlely they have to jump on
Speaker 8: the plane.
Speaker 4: It must be hot and else. Well that's the job.
Speaker 4: That's the hardest thing you've got to do all day.
Speaker 8: It is hot up there, and then they give us
Speaker 8: they give us this, and I mean as a spectacle.
Speaker 4: Maybe it was fun to.
Speaker 8: Watch, like like the Rooster's game, but it was a
Speaker 8: lot of sucking pole. There was a lot of rubbish.
Speaker 8: It really was a lot of the games weren't high
Speaker 8: quality every the weekend. What's with the defense now being
Speaker 8: so ship I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know what it is end When a
Speaker 1: team gets momentum like that, it's hard, it.
Speaker 4: Seems to attack. This was if you're in defense and
Speaker 4: you make a mistake like said there was you run
Speaker 4: out of the quick you're.
Speaker 8: You're a shooter, but but here there was no shooters.
Speaker 4: They just just missed tackles.
Speaker 8: Just missed tackles or there was holes everywhere.
Speaker 4: So it was how the didn't walking.
Speaker 8: We're just walking through the line. It wasn't wasn't pretty.
Speaker 8: Look I've got I've got a bit. Oh, I don't
Speaker 8: want to see Cook in the centers again. They put
Speaker 8: Cook in the centers and then straight away did and
Speaker 8: went there and ripped him twice through diedon two tries
Speaker 8: in about five minutes, and then that they had to
Speaker 8: pull him the hooky.
Speaker 4: Playing good at hooker than him.
Speaker 8: I was going to say little I got admit. Little
Speaker 8: Little came on and showed something. Drinky always plays well.
Speaker 8: You mentioned he's a revelation. I locked the return of Molo.
Speaker 8: Absolute monster on the edges again. He's a big, nasty,
Speaker 8: hard running human being. Mollow one of favorite, one of
Speaker 8: Tanner's favorite, Perdue just getting better all the time, getting
Speaker 8: You're gonna wear him rain soon.
Speaker 2: It's not did Labor come back? Someone came back and
Speaker 2: it just it just created a really I'm just I'm
Speaker 2: looking at my screen, created a really nice synergy guys.
Speaker 4: For Queensland, for the cow Cowboys labor because oh.
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah labor, Labor came to and he killed it
Speaker 8: and everybody was making breaks. But anyway, he killed it. Yeah,
Speaker 8: look a lot lots of six again, lots of mistackles.
Speaker 8: What can I says? He came back? Ah, he absolutely.
Speaker 4: I said that on the night I didn't realize he
Speaker 4: was still there. Yeah he got a squad a trug.
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, he was injured all years. Was this his
Speaker 8: first game back to I think it was his first
Speaker 8: game back.
Speaker 2: I feel like him. Maybe it's Labor at second, but
Speaker 2: I feel like I remember seeing two guys came back
Speaker 2: or one guy came back, and it's just the difference
Speaker 2: that it makes right when when you have you know,
Speaker 2: his original team, because the Cowboys if you remember they
Speaker 2: were doing it right at the beginning of the year.
Speaker 2: It's too late now.
Speaker 8: Yeah, but yeah, you know what, I've tried to protect him,
Speaker 8: but let's hope that the coach gets sacked. And yeah,
Speaker 8: I've tried, really I do, I do. But when they're
Speaker 8: attackling like this, they need a change up. Last year
Speaker 8: they went good either in defense, but they didn't make
Speaker 8: the eight last year.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 8: I'm funny. I like a certain type of game. I
Speaker 8: like a grind fest, and when I see, you know,
Speaker 8: thirty eight to thirty two, it's not inspiring. I enjoyed
Speaker 8: the ball movement and I enjoy the running. I enjoy
Speaker 8: the tries, but it's like just a game before it
Speaker 8: was the same. It's a tennis batch. You enjoy it
Speaker 8: for the excitement.
Speaker 4: It was good. No, no, no, no.
Speaker 8: I agree that it's exciting, but true what rugby league essence?
Speaker 8: The essence of rugby league. I'm not there on this one.
Speaker 8: Not there.
Speaker 1: But in the first few games were pretty close too.
Speaker 8: But if I'm not wrong to you, the Cowboys are
Speaker 8: still alive to make the eight. Yeah, yeah, I'm looking
Speaker 8: at they're still They're still there somewhere yeah, two points
Speaker 8: out of the eighth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I just don't see it happening, you know,
Speaker 2: with their.
Speaker 4: Coach, well, not with their defense.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, tragic.
Speaker 4: Seriously, let's move on to the next game. Okay, I'm
Speaker 4: going to see back and you can upset by this.
Speaker 2: I know that I know that number one Queensland won
Speaker 2: this year. I'm fine, but this is not This is
Speaker 2: going of Origin, right, and number two I'm happy the
Speaker 2: first time you came to lang.
Speaker 1: Park the ten has been We've been two games together
Speaker 1: this year. You've brought so before this game then said
Speaker 1: next year you've got to come here and watch Origin, right,
Speaker 1: And I said, well, you brought me luck in Sydney
Speaker 1: because paris first win was when you came to the
Speaker 1: Dragons game. Then after we won this game, she goes,
Speaker 1: you're not coming Origin.
Speaker 2: But I said before this game, like one, I think
Speaker 2: I was saying it before the party started. Our eighteam
Speaker 2: is not as good as our beating, right, And it's
Speaker 2: what I said. You know that when we're talking last
Speaker 2: year about why the Broncos have got such a good
Speaker 2: you know, they're stacked and everything else. Too many egos
Speaker 2: in there.
Speaker 1: You called out Walsh lie week and you were saying
Speaker 1: it again on Friday during the day and and he
Speaker 1: did some good things, but it was a big part
Speaker 1: of the undoing on the night as well, some of
Speaker 1: the mistakes that he made.
Speaker 2: It's called a team football team. But yeah, but even
Speaker 2: if I wasn't designated driver, I saw would have been
Speaker 2: happy because one we're at the game, how good. And
Speaker 2: two it would have been so disappointing for Nick that
Speaker 2: if Froncos had one.
Speaker 4: Now what was I saying all day? I just want
Speaker 4: to be competitive.
Speaker 1: I just want to be competitive, but I want to
Speaker 1: I want to send a shout out as well while
Speaker 1: we're on it to Megs. I want to send a
Speaker 1: shout out to Megan Hunt from Third Base Accounting in Brisbane. Megs.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty I can. I can say this because I'm
Speaker 1: far away from her now, I'm not sitting next to her.
Speaker 1: I'm sure she had a great time with the exception
Speaker 1: of the outcome. But I just want to say a
Speaker 1: special thanks to Megan for organizing the tickets as a
Speaker 1: birthday present for me as well. It was really nice
Speaker 1: about and we got to go and catch up with
Speaker 1: Megan in her third Space team on Friday afternoon, met
Speaker 1: a bunch of wonderful people who work with her and
Speaker 1: a bunch of her clients as well, all really wonderful
Speaker 1: people to reflection on her.
Speaker 4: So thanks Megs.
Speaker 1: I appreciate your organizing the tickets for me, and I
Speaker 1: enjoyed sitting next to you for the whole game.
Speaker 2: But she the last You guys never allowed to sit
Speaker 2: next to each other.
Speaker 1: But no shout out to me. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1: I really appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it was. It was.
Speaker 1: I mean it was a good game. It was a
Speaker 1: good game, so back and forth. Like I said, I
Speaker 1: just wanted to be competitive. I was pretty impressed with power.
Speaker 1: I was happy that they hung in. Moses makes a
Speaker 1: huge difference to that team. It changes the team whenever
Speaker 1: he plays a different team.
Speaker 4: Wel yeah, well, I.
Speaker 8: Mean Brisbane they should be mo. Me have a kid
Speaker 8: who just needs a good flogging. He just needs to
Speaker 8: do what he's told, you know, he just he just
Speaker 8: needs to be a good flogging.
Speaker 1: He needs what I'm telling he needs to be because
Speaker 1: he he did some really good things and he and
Speaker 1: and he got Brisbane in front with the try that
Speaker 1: he set up for Billy Wallas as well, but then
Speaker 1: he there were times where he tried to do too much,
Speaker 1: like he did that flick pass which ad a car
Speaker 1: ended up picking up and Paras scored on the back
Speaker 1: of that. So he he forced his hands and I
Speaker 1: think Maguire just and they even said it in the
Speaker 1: press conference, they just need to rain him in a
Speaker 1: little bit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he needs to be coached.
Speaker 2: He just needs to do what he does and without thinking.
Speaker 4: He's got a time. He's explosive, but you can't do
Speaker 4: that all You can't be explosive all the time. You
Speaker 4: have to chime in and you have to do it
Speaker 4: at the right time. If picking the right time to
Speaker 4: do it, yes, part of the skill.
Speaker 1: If you saw if you saw the try that he
Speaker 1: scored which was disallowed right at the end the para
Speaker 1: the young fullback knocked it on, Yeah, right in the
Speaker 1: In the press conference when they were asked about it,
Speaker 1: Jason Roles said he just needs to learn the difference
Speaker 1: between securing the ball. He was thinking pick it up
Speaker 1: and run eighty meters. Yeah, and Moses started laughing when
Speaker 1: he said that, because again it's about it's about learning that.
Speaker 1: So whilst he is the same. He he's far he's
Speaker 1: far enough in there to his career that he should
Speaker 1: be at that level.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say it's coaching Joe. Joe.
Speaker 8: Ash was his first full NRRLL game, and he was outstanding.
Speaker 4: He was fantastic here. I'm happy that that one blemish
Speaker 4: isn't what ended up being. Yeah, isn't it?
Speaker 8: Isn't it good when you train all year and on
Speaker 8: one certain day everything comes together.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 8: So Jason Rolls has been trying to teach this team
Speaker 8: a brand style, and he's and he's and he stripped
Speaker 8: the whole team and brought him new players, lightweight players,
Speaker 8: very mobile players, and even nic Or he was getting
Speaker 8: a bit upset at the start of the year because.
Speaker 4: They got rid of him, got rid of that. I'm
Speaker 4: not very patient.
Speaker 8: Got yeah, got rid of all these players and got
Speaker 8: rid of all these players. And and why is he
Speaker 8: doing why is he doing that? Nicole was saying, well,
Speaker 8: we saw, we saw on Friday night why he was
Speaker 8: doing it. Spreading on ones and twos, unbelievable, going tows
Speaker 8: too wide to go forward, something that hasn't been seen
Speaker 8: well probably ever, you know, consistently consistently go off the
Speaker 8: dummy half to two runners both sides, and then the
Speaker 8: dummy half running from there taking stripping, the stripping, the
Speaker 8: two markets, pulling them, pulling them apart again. Jason rolls
Speaker 8: a genius to get.
Speaker 4: Pumped by Melbourne this week? What are you going to say?
Speaker 4: What are you going to say next week? If don't
Speaker 4: go and get pumped by Melbourne number one, number one
Speaker 4: in and out and that you're going to say, well,
Speaker 4: not number one.
Speaker 8: No, no, not number one. They won't get pumped by
Speaker 8: four number two. This is this is the issue here.
Speaker 8: They're a young team and they're going to win one
Speaker 8: game and they're going to lose one game. They're going
Speaker 8: to win one game. They're going to lose one game
Speaker 8: until at the end of next year when they just
Speaker 8: squeeze into the eight and then they and then Jason
Speaker 8: brings two senior players in which Stead is the team.
Speaker 8: But you know what, no team play, no team plays
Speaker 8: are like this. So who sees Mitch Moses number seven
Speaker 8: controlling half back there.
Speaker 4: Should controlled all the time the whole time, should.
Speaker 8: Stand right next to the dumb behalf because that's the best,
Speaker 8: the best.
Speaker 4: Even if you look at like the last two weeks
Speaker 4: we had two great first halves.
Speaker 1: We're in it, we're leading the race. Second half dropped off.
Speaker 1: So that's why I was saying this week, I just
Speaker 1: want to I would have even been happy about so.
Speaker 8: So Mitch, Mitch slot in front of the seas so
Speaker 8: in other words, he still three out instead of going
Speaker 8: right in the middle to control. Also, so the half
Speaker 8: back wants the ball in his hands straight away from
Speaker 8: from the from the ground one second fast and faster
Speaker 8: in his hands, okay, because the defense is far a
Speaker 8: bit further the eight meters six meters okay, so he
Speaker 8: can have his options. Mitch stood on seas out three
Speaker 8: or four wide. I came played played on that. Why
Speaker 8: because because he can.
Speaker 4: More time of the ball when he gets you.
Speaker 8: Know what on this on this on this day, he's
Speaker 8: running game was It wasn't the option.
Speaker 4: I don't know why, but guess what he keeps. He
Speaker 4: kicked him to death. Number one.
Speaker 8: He controlled them with his mouth and his and his
Speaker 8: passing game was outstanding.
Speaker 1: So the three things that stood out on frid Night
Speaker 1: was his kicking game into the into the basically the
Speaker 1: red zone.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: He kicked earlier a lot to turn the big forwards
Speaker 1: around and he was screaming at his forwards or his mouth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you know what defense was brilliant.
Speaker 8: I was going to get I was going to get
Speaker 8: to that te you know, like I say, if you're in,
Speaker 8: if you're behind the eight ball, if you're if you're
Speaker 8: working behind a losing pack, you've got to do something.
Speaker 8: And I say, Nathan doesn't do that in big games
Speaker 8: or in the side of origins. Well, there's three options,
Speaker 8: and personally should do it all the time. You can
Speaker 8: either kick your way out of trouble. Okay, you either
Speaker 8: pass your way out of trouble, you run your way,
Speaker 8: or use your mouth. And on that game, he used
Speaker 8: three of them. Okay, Nick, did you.
Speaker 2: Tell the boys how Adaw and Moses actually promised they
Speaker 2: would have been for you?
Speaker 1: I did, That's yeah, I did. I did so yeah.
Speaker 1: I look, I felt bad for you. I felt because
Speaker 1: the only person by the way. What a stadium, what
Speaker 1: an atmosphere, Absolutely amazing. It's my first time is so
Speaker 1: carp I call it Lane Park, so cool being there,
Speaker 1: even though I had to take your phone out in
Speaker 1: front of the Queensland the sign lane Beanie because I
Speaker 1: must a bet which is on all the socials but amazing.
Speaker 1: But yes, I did feel a little bit guilty because,
Speaker 1: like I said, when when we thought Brisbane won the game,
Speaker 1: Tanya was the only person who didn't leap up.
Speaker 4: You cut it around me.
Speaker 1: And then when it was reversed, I felt even more
Speaker 1: guilty about that. But the result didn't honestly didn't matter,
Speaker 1: like it was such a great day.
Speaker 4: It was a great night. Abraa cabarbar.
Speaker 2: So all night so so. Cackston Street is like I've
Speaker 2: watched footy my whole life. But when I was eighteen
Speaker 2: and literally lived around the corner from some court and
Speaker 2: Cackston Street was you know you'd go out from like
Speaker 2: you know, Wednesday to Sunday and watch footy Thursday to
Speaker 2: Sunday or whatever in Caston Street and Megan I was
Speaker 2: talking about it, like you know, you start off at
Speaker 2: the CaCO, you have drinks and you go to the game.
Speaker 2: But I was like, that's a kebab story. I used
Speaker 2: to go to it like twelve o'clock and the whole
Speaker 2: time it's like I want to get a kebabb. I think,
Speaker 2: look I'm with Broncos like they were do for a
Speaker 2: last minute all she's in. He's great, but he's in
Speaker 2: needs to understanding he's part of a team. It's just
Speaker 2: fun to go.
Speaker 4: To the game.
Speaker 1: It's important to note that. And you could visibly see it.
Speaker 1: Payon half was carrying an injury, which we know about it,
Speaker 1: but he could see it on the night like he
Speaker 1: shouldn't have been on the field. He shouldn't have been
Speaker 1: on the field.
Speaker 4: Can I just address Brisbane? Sorry to you?
Speaker 8: Can I address Brisbane? So they've got to get comfort,
Speaker 8: they've got to get used to being comfortable being uncomfortable.
Speaker 8: So they hate being in cycle. So Paramount got him
Speaker 8: in cycle. Thank god. They didn't grind them. They just
Speaker 8: got him into the cycle. So the first half they
Speaker 8: were cycling back. Second half they wanted to like he
Speaker 8: lost while she lost his head. They're cycling and he goes,
Speaker 8: I'm going to score. Now I'm going to do something crazy,
Speaker 8: like I do one of those harbor Bridge passes or whatever.
Speaker 8: The two spots which Mitch done perfectly was Isra man
Speaker 8: and containing his stags absolutely ripped poor Isra shoulders apart.
Speaker 8: The the they don't they don't connect. They don't connect
Speaker 8: in so when the ball passes through you're supposed to
Speaker 8: slide through. They don't do that. Brisbane at some stage
Speaker 8: just go up and then stop and then don't slide across.
Speaker 8: They there. They boggle my mind for such brilliant kids.
Speaker 4: Rees.
Speaker 8: We're talking about Reese. You know, it's either rocks or diamonds.
Speaker 8: He's got to be more diamonds than rocks. So if
Speaker 8: he does.
Speaker 4: Four diamonds, he's got.
Speaker 8: Well, they've got to do it because there's been three
Speaker 8: years and they haven't found the way. Pain Sorry, pain Huss,
Speaker 8: you're right, so you can see it's so pain Hass
Speaker 8: is a really big thing for the Broncos because what
Speaker 8: happens is this pain Huss bends the line, falls on
Speaker 8: his front, gets up really quickly, plays the ball. Okay,
Speaker 8: Now the mark is supposed to split and follow follow
Speaker 8: follow the dummy half. Yeah, and then once the dummy
Speaker 8: half passes to checks the dummy half. Once he passes
Speaker 8: to to Reynolds's supposed to pressure redwoods on the inside
Speaker 8: so you can give the ball quickly.
Speaker 4: The early release.
Speaker 8: The minute they don't give an earlier release, or Renels
Speaker 8: doesn't give an early release, then all the all the
Speaker 8: backs from the Broncos I call it on pluses, so
Speaker 8: just on they're all on outside shoulders. That's okay, But
Speaker 8: guess what you've got the you got the elephant in
Speaker 8: the room, you got wash Wash, she's sweeping behind. So
Speaker 8: then all of a sudden, the line's got to make decisions.
Speaker 8: They've all got to make decisions and guess what nine
Speaker 8: times out of ten because that she's scared to make
Speaker 8: the wrong decisions. That's why ustral Man rips teams are
Speaker 8: teams apart. But they don't do that because sorry, because Wash,
Speaker 8: because has was wasn't bending the line at all, sorry.
Speaker 2: To, but were fine without one. Where's all is?
Speaker 4: How to?
Speaker 2: Where's Dean Mariner? Like where are all these guys? Like
Speaker 2: it's not actually the guys, it's the team make up,
Speaker 2: like not to say don't get rid of Walsh, but
Speaker 2: to get him with the team.
Speaker 8: You know, you know what, you know what Broncos looked
Speaker 8: like a lot to me. You know, when you've got
Speaker 8: a cut and you've got too many toys in it,
Speaker 8: you got too many nice toys in there. You haven't
Speaker 8: got any hard working.
Speaker 4: But you've got one of the best. I mean a
Speaker 4: good cage. Yeah, it's a good his.
Speaker 1: First season is to figure it out and he knows
Speaker 1: what he's got to But but minute when you look
Speaker 1: at the list, are you thinking can we make the
Speaker 1: eight or we're going to get rid.
Speaker 4: Of the top four? Side?
Speaker 1: Also, George, they were at full strength for the first
Speaker 1: time and how long, right, he's got to get that.
Speaker 1: It's it's yeah, he's got to get their combination playing
Speaker 1: together for a few weeks.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll just pointing out what what what they do mean?
Speaker 1: The media has been pretty heavy on Welsh but a
Speaker 1: lot of the good ship they did came off.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so let's let's move on. But I just want
Speaker 4: to close it off by saying, I had a wonderful afternoon,
Speaker 4: I had a wonderful evening.
Speaker 1: I had a one full weekend. I didn't want to
Speaker 1: come home. Sorry, Meg, I love you and thanks again
Speaker 1: for the tickets. I was really sweet of you. Meghan
Speaker 1: Hunt's thirds based accounting Brisbane. Look him up for all
Speaker 1: your accounting needs. Let's move on to Saturday Super Saturday
Speaker 1: and the Yes, the Titans twenty four points, the sixteen
Speaker 1: over the Warriors in New Zealand.
Speaker 4: Ten was it raining? No?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 4: Okay, George, you said vintage for its about the vintage
Speaker 4: for it, I like it. I just liked you know, No,
Speaker 4: I just think I really really enjoyed for him watching
Speaker 4: him play, because it was a bit of a vintage
Speaker 4: when he was back at mainly years and years ago
Speaker 4: he directed traffic. I No, I really enjoyed the game.
Speaker 4: I did think. Yeah, for there's five hundred games. J Campbell,
Speaker 4: another one, another one. Even Ricky Stewart in his press
Speaker 4: conference he defended theirs. He said, yeah, the player's got
Speaker 4: to take some of the responsibility because I'm sick of
Speaker 4: seeing these idiots on these magazine shows like three sixty saying,
Speaker 4: you know, it's not the players, it's the players are
Speaker 4: the ones out and they're going to take responsibility to everyone.
Speaker 4: Guy eight hundred thousand dollars A. Yeah, I expect you.
Speaker 4: If everyone plays a role, everyone plays you know. Yeah. Look, the.
Speaker 8: Gold Coast played well, they actually played the well. They
Speaker 8: got behind at the at the start, but they called
Speaker 8: their way back. I think it says a little bit
Speaker 8: more about the Warrior is sort of I'm not convinced,
Speaker 8: not turning it up, but there's some issues. There's some
Speaker 8: issues there. But you know what, let's let's let's go
Speaker 8: for the positives, man said talking about four.
Speaker 4: And I haven't seen fo him play like that. For
Speaker 4: the pressure. It's good to see. I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 8: Wantan's favorites, Jojo forfed. I scored two tries, I think
Speaker 8: on the on the day and g it's good.
Speaker 11: Is good?
Speaker 4: If Brinceton plays me? Yeah, you know, I if three
Speaker 4: sixty target.
Speaker 8: Really if if Brinceton plays anywhere but full back, I
Speaker 8: want to I'll give it up. I'll give it up.
Speaker 8: The guys the guy's a fullback, stop will stop.
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 8: And the fourth went went forward and guess what they
Speaker 8: scored some some really good tries and yeah, what actually tackled?
Speaker 4: They defended.
Speaker 8: They worked hard from the inside, they worked hard from
Speaker 8: the markers. They cover everybody. They scrambled. Welso WMB warriors, tries,
Speaker 8: warriors warriors.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 12: I'm not convinced from I don't know what it is. Convinced,
Speaker 12: Yeah you know to four, Yeah they are. They've done
Speaker 12: so much hard work. I really don't want to see
Speaker 12: them throw it away. But the minute, the minute that
Speaker 12: the half back on board isn't bad. I don't think
Speaker 12: boys that bad. Frankie was sitting next to him on
Speaker 12: the plane on Thursday's Kid Kid. But yeah, that's that's
Speaker 12: all I've got for this one. Sixteen. The best thing
Speaker 12: is that does he got a victory?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 8: And that I'm I'm a massive fan. I'm a massive
Speaker 8: fan of the of Dixie. I'm a massive fan of Dexie.
Speaker 1: Moving on at combat, Penrith thirty six points to two
Speaker 1: over the Tigers, not surprising considering Peni's form of late.
Speaker 1: They really seem to hit their straps. Disappointing for the
Speaker 1: Tigers to knock it on the scoreboard. I was there
Speaker 1: for that one.
Speaker 4: A tragic Tiger supporter. Talk to me, so, rob I'll
Speaker 4: use that old word insipid attack where they have absolutely
Speaker 4: nothing in the red zone. They are lackluster. There's people
Speaker 4: on big money as a Tiger support, you know, Robert, Yeah,
Speaker 4: Tigers all my life. My dad so disillusioned with that.
Speaker 4: So I don't know what. I don't know where to start.
Speaker 4: I watch it every week and I'm so pumped and pumped,
Speaker 4: and by come fifteen minutes into the game, I think
Speaker 4: there's no improvement from last week. This is nothing and
Speaker 4: what do you think that is? Me personally, I love
Speaker 4: Benji to death, but he's got to go. You gotta
Speaker 4: won't give If you run a professional soccer team, do
Speaker 4: you how many how many games do you give a
Speaker 4: guy to start winning? I remember I wouldn't made, he
Speaker 4: wouldn't last five minutes gone. So you might remember swear
Speaker 4: got Loo cut up. I think it was three years ago.
Speaker 4: I don't know if it was Bologna it was. It
Speaker 4: was a low place set of our team in Italy.
Speaker 4: The coach got sacked on the Friday, and and before
Speaker 4: the game they lost the game. The replacement got sacked
Speaker 4: and he got rehired on Monday. Three days later he
Speaker 4: got rehired. Do you remember what I'm talking about talking
Speaker 4: about of a further if you don't perform, get out.
Speaker 4: I was there, so I'll tell you what I saw.
Speaker 8: You know what, Penry are starting to get some of
Speaker 8: their good habits back. Their defense was outstanding, the scramble
Speaker 8: was out outstanding. They're just a brick wall and they
Speaker 8: just suffocate you. The first half Tigers actually paid good.
Speaker 4: But I like the new winger they got. You know
Speaker 4: that that Island, the boy on the I really liked him,
Speaker 4: and I like that sugar. You know the second round guy, yep, impressed?
Speaker 4: Can you tell us only Suka? Yeah? I like him.
Speaker 1: I've been vocally critical of the Tigers this year, right.
Speaker 8: And as I've heard and a lot of you, and
Speaker 8: you know how many of my mates of tigers, but
Speaker 8: I've been, but no one's been more critical of parent
Speaker 8: than me as well.
Speaker 4: I try and call it my daughter's right. When they
Speaker 4: were born, I told him, if you want to live
Speaker 4: in this house, you have to be a Tiger supporter.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 4: My youngest one, Laura comes up to me, goes, Dad,
Speaker 4: how come you made a support of ship doing.
Speaker 2: I don't know if Andy saw it heard it last week,
Speaker 2: but Meg who Nick did the shout out to one
Speaker 2: of her staff members. Her brother in law is Tristan
Speaker 2: Hope for the Tigers, and I think I heard part
Speaker 2: of this game. But he actually did all right. So
Speaker 2: he played at the beginning of the year, and then
Speaker 2: he came back last week, and then he's obviously a
Speaker 2: week before. But he actually did all right. I didn't
Speaker 2: remember hearing them say a few things about him, how
Speaker 2: he stuffed up or whatever. And Nick does ship on
Speaker 2: the Tigers a lot for me. I hated the times I'm.
Speaker 1: Not only I'm only speaking what I believe to be
Speaker 1: the truth, right, and the results reflect that. Right you've
Speaker 1: got and I've said the same thing about power, right
Speaker 1: until you get your ship sorted upstairs. But the Tigers,
Speaker 1: with all due respect, and I want to ask you
Speaker 1: about this. He got five or six premiership winners in
Speaker 1: that in that squad. They should not be where they are, right,
Speaker 1: But you can't do that.
Speaker 2: It's a completely.
Speaker 4: Different what Jerim little White, no tries, no line breaks
Speaker 4: this year? The marquet sign that I'm going to get
Speaker 4: that on a T shirtw Just one other thing you mean?
Speaker 4: You mentioned Tristan Megs.
Speaker 1: Listen, Meg Megs listens to us, right, shout out to
Speaker 1: Tristan who I met on Friday.
Speaker 4: What a fucking champion? That different?
Speaker 8: Tristan, What a champion? Please get me to pass that on.
Speaker 8: It's such a nice guy and he's inspired me as well.
Speaker 1: But Andy, I want to ask you, like what what
Speaker 1: you told me, What's what's your take, what's your assessment
Speaker 1: of the Tigers, and what do you expect and what
Speaker 1: are you seeing or not seeing?
Speaker 4: Every week? Look, this is what happens in my household
Speaker 4: every week. Monday, I think we're playing Titans this week.
Speaker 4: You know what a change. So the phone starts ringing.
Speaker 4: I talked to all the boys, the Titan supporter us,
Speaker 4: all my mates, and we've we live in this hope
Speaker 4: that maybe we might be competitive, and come fifteen minutes
Speaker 4: into the game, we're ringing each other, telling each other
Speaker 4: off with the ships. But why because it's disheartening to
Speaker 4: see a team when you're I'm a firm believer. If
Speaker 4: I pay you away, do you do your job. If
Speaker 4: you don't perform, get out and I'll get someone else
Speaker 4: who will. But you've got players who were playing at
Speaker 4: other clubs, who were good players. They come to Tigers
Speaker 4: and there's ship they don't perform. And that's that comes
Speaker 4: to me from the leadership. Can I say one thing
Speaker 4: for you that I've said this numerous times. I don't
Speaker 4: know if you've heard or not.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, you look at a club and the
Speaker 1: thing that's missing is the identity, right And the reason
Speaker 1: I the read never have merged with Meg.
Speaker 8: But the reason I'll tell you will tell you now.
Speaker 1: The reason I say that right is because thirteen fourteen
Speaker 1: years not making the semis right is wrong. Right now
Speaker 1: you've got they've got four fucking home grounds. Right, that's
Speaker 1: the first part. The second problem is that they should
Speaker 1: be the West Tigers from under sixers up, not Bao Main,
Speaker 1: not Western Suburbs. It should be one entity.
Speaker 4: Tigers has got no money.
Speaker 1: But this is my this is my point, right, but
Speaker 1: this should have happened in the year two thousand, right,
Speaker 1: it should be one club from from under sixers up.
Speaker 4: You've got that separation all the way up to Cup.
Speaker 1: George, I don't like even in Cup it's Western Suburbs,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Where's the where's the identity? Right?
Speaker 1: Like you sayly when you make first grade you're a
Speaker 1: West Tiger. It should be from under sixers which you're
Speaker 1: playing for exactly, and.
Speaker 4: You shouldn't be playing. You shouldn't be playing.
Speaker 1: You can't tell me you enjoy going to paramounta stadium
Speaker 1: to watch and they shouldn't be playing at home Bush
Speaker 1: pick Campbelltown, pick like that or just pick those two.
Speaker 1: But the people things that that they're getting wrong from
Speaker 1: from the top down, in my opinion, before you even
Speaker 1: get to the footy team.
Speaker 8: And I'll get to the football team. Uh, that same
Speaker 8: word identity. Who are the West Tigers on the field.
Speaker 8: So every every team has got an identity. Yes we
Speaker 8: haven't got one. If I if I, well that makes
Speaker 8: it hard to because if we if we say Penriff,
Speaker 8: we all know the identity. We all know what they do.
Speaker 8: So then you can go and recruit or you can
Speaker 8: go and breed the player you want. So Benji hasn't
Speaker 8: given them an identity. Getting good players and putting them
Speaker 8: all in the team means nothing wrong.
Speaker 4: When you go to Canterbury, what does gascu do. He
Speaker 4: gives you a historical lesson when you walk in that
Speaker 4: door and he tells you the culture and what's expected
Speaker 4: of you when you go to Tigers. What are you
Speaker 4: talking about? You're talking about the Magpists. You're talking about
Speaker 4: the Tigers? Are you talking about? We should should be
Speaker 4: talking because about I don't know who I'm talking about.
Speaker 4: I'm a Tiger supporterer, but what about the Maggie guy.
Speaker 4: That's problem wrong? You have no passion when we were
Speaker 4: all support rugby and we all love the Tigers. We
Speaker 4: all have, but at the end of the day over
Speaker 4: an identity.
Speaker 8: No, I agree, and the team has an identity. It
Speaker 8: happened and imagine these players, and that's half walking.
Speaker 4: They go to the what's that thing of Concord what
Speaker 4: I called the excellent excellence right Concord, beautiful set, but
Speaker 4: when you walk in, you got maggage on one side,
Speaker 4: You've got Tiger players on the other side.
Speaker 8: That's the way it is. Unfortunately, merger, merger doesn't work.
Speaker 2: Come on, I think it's Look, it's definitely like Andy's
Speaker 2: so the same as me as you guys would know.
Speaker 2: You need to it comes from the top. It's about leadership.
Speaker 2: It's about you hire, who you hire, how you hire,
Speaker 2: because it's my life, right. But also, and look, you
Speaker 2: know Benji maybe he's a bit earlier on in his
Speaker 2: career as a coach, but what kind of support has
Speaker 2: he got around him? From a leadership perspective, he should
Speaker 2: have support to be a better coach. Now, we don't
Speaker 2: have the same appear in of the Titans because we
Speaker 2: all like DEAs right or des is older and he's
Speaker 2: five hundredth game whatever, But the Titans have the shittest culture.
Speaker 2: Like I don't even I don't care if West Tigers
Speaker 2: is all separated by three clubs or whatever. The Titans,
Speaker 2: but we would never blame DEAs right, And I think
Speaker 2: it's just guys get to appoint where you're so frustrated
Speaker 2: with obviously the game and the coach and everything else,
Speaker 2: that it just because everyone is almost a target, right,
Speaker 2: Like I didn't like the Tigers for many years for
Speaker 2: a few reasons, and Nick can tell.
Speaker 4: You which half line.
Speaker 2: But but now, like even even last year, like I've
Speaker 2: actually come to enjoy like the game, like and it
Speaker 2: was George that really made me like enjoy the Panthers.
Speaker 2: And obviously when Lui and Taruba moved over, like I
Speaker 2: watch them a.
Speaker 13: Bit more of the Tigers and I feel for them,
Speaker 13: Like I saying to Nick before I was on the
Speaker 13: board for Southport Tigers up here, so same jersey, same
Speaker 13: I was like, maybe.
Speaker 2: It's just a jersey, but they just need like I
Speaker 2: don't know, I come to Jesus talk. All of them
Speaker 2: need to just put all their shit aside and be like.
Speaker 4: This is for the it's beyond the team. It starts
Speaker 4: up again.
Speaker 1: As you know most of my I live in Concord,
Speaker 1: for Christ's sake, Right, You're talking to someone who hasn't
Speaker 1: won a premiership since I was eleven, so I understand
Speaker 1: the pain you know what I mean. And and a
Speaker 1: lot of my friends need to clear their heads and
Speaker 1: all the smoking mirrors bullshit, see through it. And the
Speaker 1: club needs an enemy just like Paramatta does Flushy right,
Speaker 1: and and things like again, you look if you go
Speaker 1: back to the Galvins, like you know yourself. When Shane
Speaker 1: Richardson came in, he goes, we're going to focus on
Speaker 1: youth now. They've lost two really good young players so
Speaker 1: far this year. Right, you look at the Galvin saga
Speaker 1: that should never have hit the wires. We shouldn't have
Speaker 1: even known about it.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: Shane Richardson was the one who came out and release
Speaker 1: the public statement. So he stepped in his own ship
Speaker 1: the CEO, right, and that put pressure on everyone around
Speaker 1: him and underneath him put his club in the headlines.
Speaker 1: That's that's like from a guy with his experience, what
Speaker 1: the fuck is that? And then and then he did
Speaker 1: a podcast, remember the media look for it.
Speaker 4: Doesn't help when he come in and just absolutely decimated
Speaker 4: it every time doesn't help.
Speaker 1: It doesn't help when a week later he does a
Speaker 1: podcast and I called this at the time, and he says,
Speaker 1: he says, now that now that we're not re signing Galvin.
Speaker 1: You know, we're going to let players like the Silver go,
Speaker 1: but now we can use that money to keep them.
Speaker 4: Well, if you're the silver, who'd you keep you kept?
Speaker 4: He said?
Speaker 1: He actually said on the pod about three months ago.
Speaker 1: He actually said the money that we're going to use
Speaker 1: with Galvin, we're going to let players young players like
Speaker 1: the Silver. He actually named it was to keep. Well,
Speaker 1: now we can use it. Well, if you are the player,
Speaker 1: you're going to fuck that, you know, So you've got
Speaker 1: to be smarter than that.
Speaker 2: Nick, the Tigers are just Titans ten years ago.
Speaker 4: How long are the fans going to put up with it?
Speaker 2: Well, we're still well I'm not a Titans fan, but
Speaker 2: they're still over that ship. They had so much crap.
Speaker 2: That's when I sponsored them.
Speaker 4: But what do I say?
Speaker 1: This is making mirrors I'm talking about And again you
Speaker 1: can go back and listen to it because I said
Speaker 1: it on here. The album was criticized for criticizing Benji
Speaker 1: Marshall and everyone attacked him for that, and I said,
Speaker 1: we'll wait a second. Look at Benji's record speaks for
Speaker 1: itself so far.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Nick, look at the Titans ten years ago.
Speaker 2: You guys are in Sydney, so you look, they're just like,
Speaker 2: they're exactly the same as Tigers.
Speaker 4: They've made the finals in the last fourteen years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, but the same drama. Again, you're they
Speaker 2: weren't bankrupt.
Speaker 4: They were bankrupt.
Speaker 2: All your stuff is concentrated because it's down there. I
Speaker 2: just you know what, They're going to make a decision.
Speaker 2: They need to make it. If not, we'll be just
Speaker 2: talking about this.
Speaker 1: All I'm saying is if the ship doesn't come to
Speaker 1: the surface, it will never get fixed.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. If I look at Canterbury all
Speaker 4: the time, each player in that team will die for
Speaker 4: the would that happened in the Tigers. I go to
Speaker 4: work every morning. I'm relying on the guy next to
Speaker 4: me if something, if the ship, it's a fan, I'm
Speaker 4: relying on my work colleague to keep me to save
Speaker 4: my life. Okay, I expect that on the field if
Speaker 4: it's not happening at the Tigers.
Speaker 8: Honestly, until until until now, where I'm starting to think
Speaker 8: I haven't seen it a para for forever as well,
Speaker 8: it's happening.
Speaker 4: I hope it is, George, I really hope it is.
Speaker 4: Happening in Paramaerica, it's not happening to Tigers.
Speaker 8: Look, you know what in terms of in terms of
Speaker 8: the Tigers, they're in a little bit better position than
Speaker 8: I think than the Gold case because truly, truly, and
Speaker 8: I say this because I actually I'm stupid enough to
Speaker 8: watch the regies.
Speaker 4: They are so stacked junior based is George? Are they
Speaker 4: better than last year? What do you mean this team? Yeah,
Speaker 4: but I think the marginally better. I would I wouldn't
Speaker 4: think they are better, but they're not terrible. They're not terrible,
Speaker 4: but they're not good. Wrong you look at him in
Speaker 4: the red zone. They are net of attack. If the
Speaker 4: best you can do is LOUI doing a little kick
Speaker 4: behind open to god that someone's going to run in
Speaker 4: from from.
Speaker 1: From what I've heard, from what I've heard, and all
Speaker 1: three of you know who my sources are within within
Speaker 1: that club, right close to the coach himself. Going back
Speaker 1: to the story about Galvin when when and you all
Speaker 1: know this story right where Benji said, do you want
Speaker 1: to address the team after that whole incident and Jerome
Speaker 1: u appy Carus out and all turned their backs on him.
Speaker 1: That's respect for but that's bentually not controlling the situation, right,
Speaker 1: and and the clique is running the show and the
Speaker 1: click's not performed.
Speaker 8: You know what the issue is That you can get
Speaker 8: rid of Benji and that's no problem, but you've got
Speaker 8: to find someone better than Benji.
Speaker 4: I said, Brad, after I put them, put the money
Speaker 4: on the table and you'll get who you want. Brad.
Speaker 4: Arthur's won right.
Speaker 1: I agree, But when you do when you do a comparison, right,
Speaker 1: And it's easy to say now because it looks like
Speaker 1: it's starting to work out. When you do a comparison,
Speaker 1: Jason Rass said, Gutha, we love you. You got to
Speaker 1: go yeah, right, because I've got a youngster who's going
Speaker 1: to played one game in first grade, but he's going
Speaker 1: to be our fullback.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: The Tigers had the chance to do it with corous Ol,
Speaker 1: but we're going to hang on to the thirty one
Speaker 1: year old or however old he is. I don't know
Speaker 1: how old he is, and we're going to let a
Speaker 1: young guy twenty year old go.
Speaker 4: I think he will. We're in the same situation. He
Speaker 4: actually wanted to stay. He wanted to stay. I wanted
Speaker 4: to say he didn't want to leave. No, he didn't
Speaker 4: want to because he said, but I don't want to
Speaker 4: be I don't want to be on the bench, and
Speaker 4: I want to be I want to develop into a
Speaker 4: first grade. Yeah, so we had to go.
Speaker 1: So if you look at Moses, I don't know if
Speaker 1: you've heard us about Turbo what we call him tampon
Speaker 1: because he's in for one game now for three, right,
Speaker 1: Moses is starting to be like that now as well.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So when when your players are over thirty, you've got
Speaker 1: to start thinking forward. Cry I was going to start
Speaker 1: picking up injury after injury.
Speaker 4: But somebody's playing him off the bench. He comes off
Speaker 4: for a while now, Yeah, I know. It's very good.
Speaker 2: Thing is if Benji wasn't the youngest coach, he wouldn't
Speaker 2: get shut on so much because there are older coaches
Speaker 2: that are more revered.
Speaker 1: It's more that ben we're talking about this before. He's
Speaker 1: got no experience. He's never worked as an assistant, also.
Speaker 2: Has he also has no support from leadership.
Speaker 1: You should know that, which makes it even worse for
Speaker 1: someone who's got no experience.
Speaker 2: But I don't feel like this again, we're talking about
Speaker 2: the team. It's not just his fault.
Speaker 1: It's a poor decision again from upstairs, like you need,
Speaker 1: you need, in my opinion, you need a better coaching
Speaker 1: there who will control the plane group, not let them
Speaker 1: control him.
Speaker 2: Another coach goes in guarantee, they still won't work because.
Speaker 1: In my in my opinion, the best catch you've had,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, in the last fifteen years was Mick Potter.
Speaker 4: He's got the best record. Yeah he did.
Speaker 8: Really he didn't really really well and he did wrong.
Speaker 4: We shouldn't move on. But I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1: He did really well. Good coach, Yeah he did, he did.
Speaker 1: There's too much talent there. Again, you've got five or
Speaker 1: six rings in that squad. There's too much talent for
Speaker 1: them to be someone molded together and.
Speaker 8: To look to it looked very quickly. We'll move on
Speaker 8: to River. Was was good at fall back. It's great
Speaker 8: to play all of his juniors. Was no problem. I
Speaker 8: don't really care what terror May did or what his personality.
Speaker 4: Terror terror May.
Speaker 8: I don't care what he did. He should have been
Speaker 8: wearing blue. I don't care.
Speaker 4: He talked himself out of it. I don't care because because.
Speaker 8: When he goes on the field, he goes on the.
Speaker 1: He said, he said, he said to his mate, and
Speaker 1: he said it because he was recorded throwing New South
Speaker 1: Wales Jersey in the bin. So're going to pick him
Speaker 1: someone who says.
Speaker 4: That he was he was?
Speaker 6: He was A.
Speaker 4: What did I say to you the other night at
Speaker 4: your place? Thursday night?
Speaker 2: We're talking about Beshall I heard.
Speaker 1: I didn't say that I like Benji, but I said,
Speaker 1: I said, people we argue about this every year comes up, right,
Speaker 1: But I honestly believe down here in New South Wales
Speaker 1: we do not have what they have in Queen.
Speaker 4: We don't believe in the shirt the way they do.
Speaker 8: No, great Coleman, No, no, there is what I was saying.
Speaker 4: The story tiger watching from training from the trees. It's
Speaker 4: called it cach for ship, but it's a Jersey.
Speaker 1: Loves the Jersey Queens have a belief in there. And
Speaker 1: I promise Tenure, I'll send you a phallow after we
Speaker 1: do have a.
Speaker 4: He's my favors your favorite time player? We do well?
Speaker 4: Is my favoral time.
Speaker 2: Plus your first.
Speaker 8: Let's let's move on one thing, because you are ratching
Speaker 8: on Jerome and I usually stick up for Jerome book,
Speaker 8: but you know what, pushing eighteen or nine year old
Speaker 8: kid to control the team. Well, yeah, well you well
Speaker 8: you've got four rings.
Speaker 4: And what I say two weeks ago, it's not right.
Speaker 4: What did I say two weeks ago? I said he's
Speaker 4: been forced out of his position to accommodate a rookie.
Speaker 1: It's just not it's Marque signing captain, no tries, no
Speaker 1: line breaks.
Speaker 4: Not right. Yeah, no, no, this year, it's not right. Pushing.
Speaker 4: I need more out of him and he kicks are
Speaker 4: the same. He's got a great short kicking game. But
Speaker 4: that's all.
Speaker 1: That's all really he's got and and and he does
Speaker 1: have a great short kicking game and penil awesome. And yeah,
Speaker 1: they're getting better and better. But let's move on because
Speaker 1: you know ten's getting pissed.
Speaker 4: Off the next game. Yeah yeah, the Sharky's points to
Speaker 4: twelve remedies.
Speaker 8: Listen this tea, what you told me? Told me about
Speaker 8: the fullback, the young.
Speaker 4: Bloke Gray, what's his name? Tanya loves you great. He's
Speaker 4: a great little player. I love him, queens queens. If
Speaker 4: he cuts from he's a good player. Wrong, is a
Speaker 4: very good player. I reckon. He's very energetic and he
Speaker 4: just adds a bit of life to it. He was
Speaker 4: he was leading his uhle ms. Before he left. He
Speaker 4: spoke up forgot he's lost his spot. He's gone gone.
Speaker 4: I'm telling you he's gone. He can stay a great
Speaker 4: He's not coming back. He can stay great.
Speaker 2: It was he was lead and he is absolutely brilliant
Speaker 2: until their version of Wolsh came back to him. Will
Speaker 2: take him back? I don't know, No, no, no, he's Queensland.
Speaker 4: He's a Liverpool boy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's his first game.
Speaker 4: Another great English sastic world.
Speaker 1: Considering their injury suspensions.
Speaker 8: I don't think this was about self senior. I think
Speaker 8: it's more about Cronulla. Self Seen is depleted, Selfie is depleted.
Speaker 8: They're probably not going to win no game year, but
Speaker 8: they but look, you know what they put in and
Speaker 8: they tried really hard. So I'm not going to go
Speaker 8: through each individual player. They tried their hardest. It's all
Speaker 8: about the team. Apparently it's going to make the top four,
Speaker 8: but I don't know about that. They had so much
Speaker 8: ball in in good ball areas and they just couldn't score.
Speaker 4: Try they couldn't score more that more trump or was
Speaker 4: it more just the.
Speaker 8: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, this this team apparently
Speaker 8: is the top four team man, and they couldn't crack them.
Speaker 8: They kept on getting turned away and turned away. They're
Speaker 8: really good at getting downfield Cronola. When it comes to
Speaker 8: the red z own that nothing they got, they got,
Speaker 8: they got nothing. And you know what, this is what
Speaker 8: drives me about one million dollar me mines pines. He
Speaker 8: was poor today, he was pouring on. He played two
Speaker 8: good games two years. We played a good couple of
Speaker 8: weeks ago.
Speaker 4: He was poor? What? What? What? What? What annoys me? Actually? Now?
Speaker 8: Will Kennedy, Will Kennedy probably was the best player again
Speaker 8: again okay, And they offered him three hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 8: and he said yes, because the idiot will take anything
Speaker 8: because he wants to playing for Carnela and they've pulled
Speaker 8: the contract off the table. Yes, so I have no
Speaker 8: idea why that I want.
Speaker 4: To get more elsewhere? Would he probably would? But he
Speaker 4: wants to play Coronel. He wants to play for Coronel.
Speaker 8: Bullets in the Shire. The shy Boyea, they was terrible.
Speaker 8: Penal Blake was terrible. They got Blake grayly thank god,
Speaker 8: he's on fire and he was playing well.
Speaker 4: But in general. He rejected.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he rejected a contract engine as well. Who got
Speaker 1: belted and got knocked out.
Speaker 4: Yes, the swinging army. You mean when someone got belted.
Speaker 8: He just went to judicially got found Jack White, Jack White,
Speaker 8: and shoulder charged.
Speaker 1: Who was to shoulder charge? Another fucking RhoD schollar there,
Speaker 1: Jack White.
Speaker 8: Anyway, he showed the charge, so he wasn't shoulder charge.
Speaker 8: But it was a head clash. But he just got
Speaker 8: You just got found guilty on that four weeks. Yeah,
Speaker 8: four weeks. So I don't know about that. I don't
Speaker 8: know about that.
Speaker 4: And Cambra offered him a million bucks to stay.
Speaker 8: And now have taken it. This game was a disappointed
Speaker 8: This disappo was a bit of lackluster. Wasn't a disappointed
Speaker 8: very And I would be buying Lewis Dodd an air
Speaker 8: fare ticket back to the North of England.
Speaker 4: Hundred thousand how much they paid for him. And you
Speaker 4: know how they found him.
Speaker 8: You wouldn't feed him, played three games, you wouldn't feed him.
Speaker 8: I do feel better than oh yeah I have. I
Speaker 8: have been watching I did watch him last year before.
Speaker 8: I did watch him last year the year before. It's
Speaker 8: Super League and I knew what was going to happen.
Speaker 2: I knew exactly, George for me to put it in
Speaker 2: perspective because we don't know if we can keep him
Speaker 2: shippers Psarkey is on eighty five K.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're I think you'll stay for salary
Speaker 1: cap squeeze, but I think you'll stay for rest.
Speaker 2: But you have guys that are not that good, and
Speaker 2: he's on eighty five K. I'll hire him.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 8: No, I'm a fan of Japanese immortal.
Speaker 2: Contracts and stuff. We just remember that is what he's
Speaker 2: on comparing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you got you gotta, you gotta.
Speaker 14: Is there any third party money there? Keep? But you
Speaker 14: got to remember how he got to the Broncos. Yeah,
Speaker 14: I wander everywhere. Now he can talk Turkey, Now he
Speaker 14: can talk yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he'll stay too.
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 8: So he'll stay, but he won't be getting eighty thousand.
Speaker 8: He'll be on three to four hundred thousand.
Speaker 2: No, I think all they can offer him is one.
Speaker 1: They've got a very very the caps tight. They're very
Speaker 1: especially if they're especially if they're going to keep Pass
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, they've got to keep Pass on the market.
Speaker 1: Paint ass will be the highest paid paint game.
Speaker 8: They've got no option. They've got to keep paint, no option.
Speaker 8: The whole the whole system works around. It's one of
Speaker 8: the best fours I've seen, the whole system. The whole
Speaker 8: system works around paint. Huse, everything goes forward, everything goes through.
Speaker 4: He's a John. He's a John Scandali. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 8: I don't know if he's good as Scanned though, but
Speaker 8: my father loves Scanned every game t move loves loves scandall.
Speaker 1: That afternoon, the Raiders machine kept on a roll and
Speaker 1: forty four points to eighteen over the confusing Newcastle Knights.
Speaker 4: I don't know what to make of that team. Is
Speaker 4: it Newcastle terrible? Uh? And the Raiders the rail is.
Speaker 8: I got sort of this bug that they can put
Speaker 8: their foot down whenever.
Speaker 4: Can they do it when it matters to That's a
Speaker 4: very defense to hold. That's that's that's that's why I'm
Speaker 4: not sure. I don't think i've seen him.
Speaker 8: I've seen I've seen him in Cycle, I haven't seen
Speaker 8: him in grind so I can't wait to see I
Speaker 8: think last.
Speaker 4: Time played Canterbury. They're going to play one of those
Speaker 4: teams soon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you guys were talking about Melbourne. I mean,
Speaker 1: I can't see past them this year. But it's I
Speaker 1: think I said it last week. It's one of those
Speaker 1: seasons where normally you've got two or three teams that
Speaker 1: you're put in the Grand Final and one of them
Speaker 1: is going to miss out. This year, I don't see
Speaker 1: it this year. I don't know who's going to be there.
Speaker 1: I think Melbourne will.
Speaker 4: Be I really but for your defense, Melbourne is a
Speaker 4: really good attacking team. Attacking I'm talking defense at the moment.
Speaker 4: Who's in the Grand Final? I gauge teams.
Speaker 2: Last Storm, they beat the Storm, I said to you
Speaker 2: as last year. Raiders are like those little ninja like
Speaker 2: they've just been ticking away, finessing their game. I'm not
Speaker 2: like they've they've had some of the hard games already.
Speaker 9: I'm just looking Dogs beat them around.
Speaker 2: But yeah, they're one boy two get to Storm.
Speaker 8: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I would hope the Raiders and another team are in.
Speaker 2: Just switch it up a bit.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 8: Honestly, this year I can honestly say I don't know Raiders.
Speaker 4: Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 2: That'd be a good one.
Speaker 4: That'll be good final. I don't I don't know.
Speaker 8: But all I know is when they put their foot
Speaker 8: down and score all those tries, they look beautiful.
Speaker 4: They really do that.
Speaker 8: They're luscious some of the some of the players they've
Speaker 8: got have they got the defense in and rob That's
Speaker 8: what I don't know, Jamie.
Speaker 2: We've been saying this all years. We've been saying we
Speaker 2: don't know, and then we see them every week when
Speaker 2: we see them like pull out of scenarios where they
Speaker 2: shouldn't have pulled.
Speaker 8: Out, even strange. I mean, here Weeks, my god, Yeah,
Speaker 8: you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Even.
Speaker 8: Papali has all of a sudden got a second second,
Speaker 8: second wind of life. And you know what, when everybody
Speaker 8: comes back to Owen, Patty's not even on the bench.
Speaker 8: That's how good they are. He's not even on the bench.
Speaker 4: And brough.
Speaker 2: Jedge Stewet so did in really nicely judge.
Speaker 8: Stewart again when everybody's back, he's not in the team.
Speaker 4: It's Stewart's So Saga is.
Speaker 2: Really good as well. Like they've got Weeks's young.
Speaker 4: That's young. That's killing it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Camera Cambra is one of those. It's like I
Speaker 2: said about the Dolphins, like they're not a threat because
Speaker 2: everyone's like, oh, you know, it's a new team. Same
Speaker 2: with camera Camber doesn't belong to any kind of state,
Speaker 2: but they're and same with Warriors, but they're just going
Speaker 2: to cruise along and you'll see and look who's look
Speaker 2: who's in, Like you know, up and coming Warriors, Dolphins,
Speaker 2: Dolphins on as much Raiders. They've got that extra chip
Speaker 2: on their shoulder that Queenslanders have, so they work a
Speaker 2: bit harder.
Speaker 1: Queenslanders don't have a chip on his shoulder at all.
Speaker 2: With poor cousin.
Speaker 4: Remember, we're going to stop that ship right now. We
Speaker 4: need to do.
Speaker 2: It's okay, I'm happy with that. I'm going to jump off, guys.
Speaker 4: I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2: I've got a massive day tomorrow and I've got a
Speaker 2: few things I've just popped up.
Speaker 4: Good luck with everything.
Speaker 2: Good luck and Andy needs to you need to get
Speaker 2: a fourth seat in there, because I think Andy should.
Speaker 8: Still be regular regular spot lost.
Speaker 4: I've been dropped. The cup.
Speaker 1: Captain, I can't put on over my headset. But yeah
Speaker 1: for the cameras, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I got proof, video proof, I've got photo everything, and
Speaker 2: give my thank.
Speaker 4: One day I will meet you in the flesh. Good Luck.
Speaker 1: I talked to you right, all right, now we're on
Speaker 1: the screen.
Speaker 4: We're on the screen. It doesn't look like.
Speaker 15: A fucking point, doesn't It doesn't look as good as
Speaker 15: it did five seconds ago.
Speaker 4: Anybody.
Speaker 1: Bulldogs forty two points to four over the Eagles. Everyone
Speaker 1: including me, was expecting a close game.
Speaker 8: Here.
Speaker 4: What happened me to? You know? You know what, I
Speaker 4: won't lie. I didn't see it. I watched it. I
Speaker 4: watched it. You know what.
Speaker 8: The Professor brought his team down and he was going
Speaker 8: to use the same tactics that he's used the full
Speaker 8: last meetings in Nicola and where they got to win.
Speaker 8: And what that was was he was going to desecrate
Speaker 8: our middles. And guess what, the first ten to fifteen
Speaker 8: minutes it was working a treat Nicola. He absolutely ripped
Speaker 8: our middles. But the game got on. As the game
Speaker 8: went on went on, went on the arm wrestle, and
Speaker 8: then the grind started. And then the minute the grind started,
Speaker 8: you could see cracks period everywhere. And let let me
Speaker 8: let me point some stats out. Bulldogs had eighty seven
Speaker 8: percent possession. They made a thousand more running a thousand
Speaker 8: more running meters than Manly, a thousand more running thousands,
Speaker 8: a thousand more running meters than mainly so they had
Speaker 8: they had eleven. They had eleven line breaks compared to two.
Speaker 8: There kicking meters Nicola three hundred and fifty mainly and
Speaker 8: we had one hundred and thirty.
Speaker 4: Eight kick meters.
Speaker 8: The off flayers were twenty one to twenty one to eight.
Speaker 8: They actually dominated this this game. The other possession it
Speaker 8: was the possession well we had actually I don't know,
Speaker 8: I didn't write that one and mate, but it would
Speaker 8: have been high.
Speaker 4: It would have been high, I.
Speaker 8: Get it now, Uh possession, No, No, we only had
Speaker 8: we had fifty six percent and forty four so that's
Speaker 8: that's that's pretty big. So I loved it. I loved it.
Speaker 8: This this combined cycle with grind what I talk about
Speaker 8: when you put it two together, that's the top of
Speaker 8: rugby leaguy. I like good hard rugby league.
Speaker 4: Burden burden, burden, burden.
Speaker 8: So what happens with with the youngster in Galvian It
Speaker 8: releases Burden to run and just run, do what he's
Speaker 8: good at.
Speaker 4: Run.
Speaker 8: So they let they let Lucky control and you know what,
Speaker 8: how quickly he's learned from a couple of weeks ago
Speaker 8: who he wanted to do everything, to be calm, to
Speaker 8: look in front of him, and to play, to play
Speaker 8: very squeat, come down to coaching absolutely for half an hour,
Speaker 8: comes down and just answered the question. Yeah, so so
Speaker 8: he's he's in three weeks, he's completely changed his game,
Speaker 8: and they've he's playing a cannibyway. Not yet, but he's
Speaker 8: playing a candy way. He'll just keep on getting better.
Speaker 8: So what that does is he releases Burton to run
Speaker 8: and run and run. I really feel sorry for Tommy Bronson.
Speaker 8: Cherry absolutely schooled him that he was the spot. And
Speaker 8: I don't know why you spot him up, but he
Speaker 8: was the spot and they were just buzzing around him
Speaker 8: and they just exposed his outside shoulders.
Speaker 4: They ripped it off.
Speaker 8: At some stage he missed about four tackles which led
Speaker 8: it lead into two tries and too bad, too mad
Speaker 8: breaks caras caras mate for a winger for a winger.
Speaker 8: If he's not wearing green, origin must be must be
Speaker 8: any and this and this very maligned lightweight pack Nicola, uh,
Speaker 8: you know mobile that.
Speaker 4: Made fun of us. We're small, but guess what.
Speaker 8: But the mobile we absolutely destroyed the middles of manly
Speaker 8: and I really enjoyed it because they've beat us four
Speaker 8: times now.
Speaker 1: A lot of criticism came the Bulldogs weighing the lead
Speaker 1: up to this one as well, so they haven't been
Speaker 1: anyone and considering handle these last up when this was emphatic, it's.
Speaker 8: The star, it's the way we did it, it's the
Speaker 8: style we used it now now and.
Speaker 4: I saw the highlights. Burton had an absolute big game watch.
Speaker 1: I still don't understand, sorry to digress as the eight
Speaker 1: leenth man, why he didn't take the number six jumping
Speaker 1: from New Solf?
Speaker 4: Wow? Or why? Why? Why? Why would Lorie Daily and
Speaker 4: no offense to Jacob kras but why would you bring
Speaker 4: in a winner as eighteenth man? Again? A winner on
Speaker 4: them anyway, Burton had had a pearl. Yeah, so sorry,
Speaker 4: so back to it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, So I enjoyed it as the game got on
Speaker 8: and we just kept on grinding them mainly, just kept on,
Speaker 8: just kept on going backwards and backwards and backwards mainly.
Speaker 8: Won't make the eighth, No, they're not good enoughing what
Speaker 8: I expect from Canterbury is to build on this, on
Speaker 8: his victory and to that's it click.
Speaker 4: In Now, when's the time of the you gotta click now.
Speaker 8: Now now, dogs of war. Now, now, now grind. I'm
Speaker 8: expecting them to grind the gold case into the ground
Speaker 8: to oblivion this week and just to keep on up
Speaker 8: there there and just to continue that role. So you
Speaker 8: can cycle, which which thing does which canbra cycles? I
Speaker 8: haven't seen them grind the Canterbury Melbourne canby grind. The
Speaker 8: thing is you go do together. You got to cycle
Speaker 8: and grind together. That's what happened. Canterbury is a grinding team.
Speaker 8: Will grind you down and were you out and then
Speaker 8: put you asleep, and and and and you would understand this,
Speaker 8: g Man. I enjoy watching that Top of Rugby League
Speaker 8: because of the eighties team, because because back in the
Speaker 8: eighties the Canoby team had no no way in the
Speaker 8: world to be in the same category as the paramounta team,
Speaker 8: no way on paper, we shouldn't be even on the
Speaker 8: same paper that would weigh you down the style I mean,
Speaker 8: for God's.
Speaker 4: Sake, Ken, Kenny, Kenny Sterling, that's it right there, Kenny.
Speaker 8: Sterling, that's it. Let's see they should rip us apart.
Speaker 8: But guess what we would suck him into a dog,
Speaker 8: bring you down to your level and just do. What
Speaker 8: I like about the dog is is they're scrambling, so
Speaker 8: don't mister tackle. That's okay, But that's a scramble. That's
Speaker 8: a culture culture and that's club based. When you walk,
Speaker 8: like I said, you walk in the door and good
Speaker 8: gives you a history lesson to.
Speaker 4: You something amazing.
Speaker 8: I'll toll you something that happened this year. And on
Speaker 8: the weekend they show that they're still together. When Galvin,
Speaker 8: when you get Galvin in and you just got one
Speaker 8: of your mates going back to you, rat you've got
Speaker 8: you have surely you had to rattle the team and
Speaker 8: guess what. They went out this week and they love
Speaker 8: each other so much.
Speaker 4: The coverage called the meeting straight away and addressed the issue.
Speaker 4: Of course, said you ever hear the play it all together? Boys,
Speaker 4: that's a club ramp. That's what I'm talking. It's like
Speaker 4: it's missing. But everybody hasn't got feel good.
Speaker 8: There's enough people being around feel good. They also have
Speaker 8: in the change with everything. They have these affirmation signs
Speaker 8: that they and they believe in the team. First team,
Speaker 8: you know, do the same, have started doing the same
Speaker 8: under rolls. I've heard of red something I'll do something
Speaker 8: that I know for a fact because I watch a
Speaker 8: lot of video. I've been watching them now for two years,
Speaker 8: and I watched most of the games twice to understand
Speaker 8: the defensive the defensive structure. And I still haven't got it.
Speaker 8: I still haven't got it. I went to Billmore to
Speaker 8: watch them training. And if you see how the when
Speaker 8: they're doing d if you see how they field is
Speaker 8: gritted up so it works with threes, so you're you're
Speaker 8: you're three. Then when the ball passes, he drops off
Speaker 8: and you're going three, you're covering up.
Speaker 4: So he's got this.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so there's this system. And then the scramble. So
Speaker 8: the scramble, they've got signs for scrambling coming around the back.
Speaker 8: I'll tell you something. There was an eighty meter bust,
Speaker 8: not not this week, a couple of weeks ago. Eighty
Speaker 8: meter bust got tackled, okay, held him down a bit.
Speaker 8: He got up and I looked back and the line
Speaker 8: was set. Line was the line was set. And these
Speaker 8: these these are the things.
Speaker 4: That as the games wrong. And these are things that effort.
Speaker 4: That's it. That's it. You coached that into a team.
Speaker 8: You coach the teams. You coach that in the team.
Speaker 8: Yeah my point, absolutely, Yeah, Yeah, I loved that. I
Speaker 8: really enjoyed this game. I love seeing grind and I
Speaker 8: love seeing I don't care if it's carib anyway, I
Speaker 8: don't care. It could be paned, I don't care. I
Speaker 8: love seeing teams grinding the other team into the ground
Speaker 8: and just just rub, you know, rub it. I actually
Speaker 8: my favorite game of the year was the pen of
Speaker 8: Canbary game Grind Fair. It was it was a cycle
Speaker 8: and grind. It was the best, so good, it was
Speaker 8: so good, and and this first half was brutal. The
Speaker 8: first half was absolutely they were losing it mainly were
Speaker 8: losing the type, but they kept on coming. They believe
Speaker 8: that they're gonna run over him. They kept on coming.
Speaker 8: That big front roll whatever his name is, who got Lodge.
Speaker 8: Lodge was on on on roll. Matt Lodge was on
Speaker 8: on on a different planet, just trying to smash everybody.
Speaker 8: But you know what, they kept on smashing him and
Speaker 8: he got penalties. He got He considered the penalties because well,
Speaker 8: the and the ruck wire rolling the right quicker in
Speaker 8: the minute you're rolling the right quicker, when the referee
Speaker 8: looks up well, you look you look like you're doing something.
Speaker 8: Your hands on the wall, you're holding up yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 8: So I love I love this one, and I can't
Speaker 8: wait to see the next.
Speaker 1: This week we'll get we'll get into that at the moment,
Speaker 1: just to the Dolphins had to buy. We'll learn the
Speaker 1: rest for them being do you reckon I'll make the
Speaker 1: eight Dolphins. I'd love to see hope, I really hope
Speaker 1: so well, put that X factor in there.
Speaker 8: That's going to do what they're going to do on
Speaker 8: the day they're coming eighth now, and I do not believe,
Speaker 8: you know what, that's the eight. That's how it's going
Speaker 8: to finish. I don't believe the Seagules won't make it
Speaker 8: and won't make it.
Speaker 4: That's it. You think that's the now how it finishes.
Speaker 1: We've got four or five six games, five games, five
Speaker 1: games left, I think that's I think that's it. Let's
Speaker 1: move in the crystal ball, will do our tips for
Speaker 1: the upcoming week Thursday night storm. Let's move to the
Speaker 1: next game. See, yeah, what it's is exactly where they're
Speaker 1: playing down there now here. But this is exactly what
Speaker 1: you said, is my PTSD right, It's like sixty eight.
Speaker 1: There's no Look, there's no Jerome Hughes peraps back perhaps backps.
Speaker 4: My god, he touris the shreds in realm.
Speaker 8: So we playing seven, which I thought I thought the
Speaker 8: thing would be lost. But you know again, you know,
Speaker 8: I'll reiterate what I was saying on Friday. I just
Speaker 8: want to be competitive, you know, I don't mind going
Speaker 8: down if we compete.
Speaker 4: You know, I'll go one step first.
Speaker 1: I don't want to lose. I don't want to be
Speaker 1: thirty six at halftime. A get you know what I mean, So.
Speaker 8: That won't happen. I'll go one step further on a
Speaker 8: on a really really big high. I think, pall get
Speaker 8: the chocolates here, becore.
Speaker 4: I think different with Mitch.
Speaker 10: Believe.
Speaker 8: I don't believe the storm this year so far, and
Speaker 8: I'll get it together and again Mitch will would will
Speaker 8: tell you what you wouldn't want to be Mitch's dog,
Speaker 8: you know what I mean. He'll kick you to death.
Speaker 8: And don't forget the connection between Lax and.
Speaker 4: They also got Coach on the wing too. You've got
Speaker 4: a big unit on the wing, you know, win all
Speaker 4: that in the air.
Speaker 8: This this is an intriguing game. I can't wait to
Speaker 8: watch it. Harry, Harry Grant is the key big game.
Speaker 8: Harry Grants and the Peasants are on the on the
Speaker 8: bench first interchange as well, so he's ready to pull
Speaker 8: the trigger. John Crees, he's ready to pull the trigger
Speaker 8: for the Wish. So that's going to be interesting. Give me,
Speaker 8: give me paramat Nicola, give me the tough one storm
Speaker 8: any storm storms.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 11: Uh.
Speaker 1: Friday night, the Warriors are hosting the Dolphins at home.
Speaker 1: I'm going to get the Dolphins away. Pressure off of
Speaker 1: break Warriors unimpressive last week.
Speaker 4: What about you, guys? Yeah, I worried. I know I
Speaker 4: can speak for Yeah. Look the war the Warriors are shaking.
Speaker 4: I really want to.
Speaker 8: I'm I'm fascinated with the Warriors. I love Nickel Nickels,
Speaker 8: I love him, I love him.
Speaker 4: I love him more.
Speaker 8: But when I look on the other side, the best,
Speaker 8: one of the best future halfbacks in the world. Guitar kid,
Speaker 8: he's going to be You know what, how did Nick
Speaker 8: Arena get well in his back at six?
Speaker 1: Nick Arena's back at six? He did a Fisher Harris Man.
Speaker 1: The guy came back in three weeks, two weeks. Yeah, anyway,
Speaker 1: give me, give me the Fins.
Speaker 4: I'm going to fins. Give me the.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 1: Following game up at sun Corps Stadium, the Broncos are
Speaker 1: hosting the Rabbit's one way traffic for me, especially last week,
Speaker 1: definitely the Bronx.
Speaker 8: Unfortunately, Yeah, the depleted, the poor Rabbits, and they've gotta
Speaker 8: and the other team's got to point the proof.
Speaker 4: So yeah, opening on.
Speaker 1: Saturday, the poor Titans cost the going to come crashing
Speaker 1: back down to They're at home to the Panthers.
Speaker 8: Panthers, I'll go pen I can't say, Hendry full stack
Speaker 8: and working working their way back into the form. Unfortunately,
Speaker 8: the Titans, you know when you get that shaking, filling
Speaker 8: feeling when you're drowning because.
Speaker 4: You actually like watching them play. Penderful, watching them throw
Speaker 4: the ball around. I like him.
Speaker 8: They'll be making lots of mistakes because they'll be choking.
Speaker 8: You'll get eating alive when you make mistakes against I
Speaker 8: will go for an upset in the next one. I
Speaker 8: really will, and will and Saint George hosting Canberra.
Speaker 4: I just think.
Speaker 1: Canberra I saw some vulnerabilities last week against Power and
Speaker 1: I think they just probably need to drop one before
Speaker 1: we get to the Semis and the dragons. They're so unpredictable,
Speaker 1: soe many games they should have won this year, at
Speaker 1: least four or five games that had in the bag,
Speaker 1: and they blew it. I'll go for an upset. I'll
Speaker 1: go for the dragons at home in this one.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm ye.
Speaker 8: I can't do I can't do it. I just think
Speaker 8: of last week and hell, they couldn't. They couldn't catch
Speaker 8: a I couldn't. They couldn't catch a cold. Give me,
Speaker 8: give me the give me the raided.
Speaker 4: And I just can't do it.
Speaker 1: The next one, the next one is the toughest tip
Speaker 1: for me at Brookvale, mainly hosting the roosters.
Speaker 4: I think I'll go mainly, Well, you're going mainly one.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't, I don't. I don't like none of
Speaker 8: the I think both of them. I think both of
Speaker 8: them draw yeah, I don't think both of them are good.
Speaker 8: Give me, give me the russles just to be different.
Speaker 8: Just give me the ruses to be different.
Speaker 1: And Sunday afternoon at o cool two pm, am I
Speaker 1: saying right here, I need I need to put my
Speaker 1: glasses on Facebook one fifty five, not two o'clock one
Speaker 1: fifty five Tigers at tom Bank in the.
Speaker 4: Bulldogs bullerback, bullerback.
Speaker 8: Very hard, very hard to go against the upset Tigers
Speaker 8: twenty four to twelve.
Speaker 4: Was back here. Anyone missing for the Dogs, George, we
Speaker 4: look like we're pretty full house. Max.
Speaker 8: We've got some forward injuries, but they'll they'll come back
Speaker 8: and the backs.
Speaker 4: Are I've got to get the Bulldogs. I can't. I
Speaker 4: can't see them dropping.
Speaker 8: This oh cond of traces out for probably the rest
Speaker 8: of the year. Oh really, Yeah, so they got kit
Speaker 8: full back. The full back, yeah, got injured, and I
Speaker 8: don't reckon. We's too bad. I have not I don't
Speaker 8: think he'll be back. He's a good player, so that's
Speaker 8: probably one change might upset the pattern. But yeah, I look,
Speaker 8: I can't see it.
Speaker 1: I can't sip against the Dogs at this point. And
Speaker 1: closing under round the Shark is as Shark Parker hosting
Speaker 1: the North Queensland Cowboys, and I'll go at home.
Speaker 8: Yeah at the prison Nicola, no one gets out there.
Speaker 8: No one gets out from the prison alive. You know what,
Speaker 8: I would pick the Cowboys if there's only one small
Speaker 8: issue that they let they lack it.
Speaker 4: They can't tackle so I'll cowboys. Yeah, cowboys, they can't
Speaker 4: tackle and pain your boys. The Sharks they're not haven't me,
Speaker 4: they haven't impressed me man on them and in the
Speaker 4: Cowboy I mean this, this is a this is a
Speaker 4: tricky one.
Speaker 1: Look, I'll lean on because they're at home. The Cowboys
Speaker 1: haven't traveled well this year. But the Cowboys are a
Speaker 1: lot like the dragons. You just don't know what you're
Speaker 1: going to get week to week, very unpredictable.
Speaker 4: I'll stay.
Speaker 1: I'll stick with the Sharks on this one. And and
Speaker 1: Newcastle get the two points. Vira, bye George.
Speaker 4: And how good is it that Dan Gogle got sound
Speaker 4: another contract with Newcastle? Ga guy? Yeah, one or two
Speaker 4: another year? Good?
Speaker 8: Good, good good. I thought they're going to discard him.
Speaker 4: Good. He's been one of the been good for me
Speaker 4: that he got a contract. I'm happy he's been good.
Speaker 8: He's been he's been one of the best. And look,
Speaker 8: I don't know what's happening. The ship showed there at Newcastle,
Speaker 8: but he's he's probably the amly guide in so that's good.
Speaker 4: Thompson had a good game. Did you see Thompson play?
Speaker 4: I can't wait to come. What's going to who's the
Speaker 4: one going to the game. Don't well you got to
Speaker 4: the times got worse.
Speaker 8: Nope, is good, trust me, Joy. I didn't think I
Speaker 8: was going to have too much because I thought we
Speaker 8: might run into time issues. But what we are doing,
Speaker 8: Innica she we're following, following the plight in terms of
Speaker 8: n r l W of the Paramatta, the Paramatta team
Speaker 8: and game. Yeah, the Paramatta team and the Broncos team. Unfortunately,
Speaker 8: we got look, we got some issues at the moment Nicola.
Speaker 8: The Knights came down here at Granville and they put
Speaker 8: thirty on us.
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, I thought you said they were good. They were good.
Speaker 4: They are good. They are good, they are good.
Speaker 8: They just had enough week We're still we're still top
Speaker 8: four in the SEMIS. Broncos absolutely smacked the Dragons Nicola
Speaker 8: thirty two to six, and we've got to of course
Speaker 8: cast the eye on the premiership favorites Roosters. They played
Speaker 8: the hatless Canary Banks own team and they smacked us
Speaker 8: as well.
Speaker 4: It was their first.
Speaker 8: I thought they might a be better. But forty to
Speaker 8: twenty two Nicola, So we didn't have a good weekend
Speaker 8: in the end w with Nicola unfortunately.
Speaker 4: But better next week.
Speaker 8: In terms of Super League, they had a split round
Speaker 8: for some reason because this week is usually their international
Speaker 8: week and they play France and they're not going to
Speaker 8: play France again because they kept on bring them by
Speaker 8: eighty Nils. They've given that up, so they've had a
Speaker 8: split round. So I'll talk about it next week. But
Speaker 8: Big Sam is getting rid of the mad Italian in
Speaker 8: the front rower. What's your name, barbecue Man? What already
Speaker 8: calls him barbecue man, the guy who does because COVID.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Vaughn.
Speaker 8: Vaughn getting rid of him, and he's looking for a
Speaker 8: club in Sydney. Yeah, and I signed maybe Paras should
Speaker 8: sign him. They signed a thirty five year old Jack
Speaker 8: de Bellen.
Speaker 4: Yeah but yeah five play your player, Yeah but thirty
Speaker 4: five one season, once win.
Speaker 8: Anyway, he's gone down to York so it's the second
Speaker 8: division team Vaughn has. Yeah, he's gone down to your
Speaker 8: second division team there. And next week I'm going to
Speaker 8: start breaking down some of the contenders in this segment
Speaker 8: because there's a lot of different styles that that in
Speaker 8: the eighth this year, and I've got no idea who's
Speaker 8: going to be in the final, nor do I know
Speaker 8: which style is going to prevail, because usually there's one
Speaker 8: style of the last five or six years won the
Speaker 8: comp the one team is one of four and then
Speaker 8: we've got Melbourne they play very similar style. But this
Speaker 8: year is unique because in the top eight we've got
Speaker 8: lots of different styles of rugby league playing. So I
Speaker 8: might actually break breakdown and give my opinion at the
Speaker 8: end of at the end of our every at the
Speaker 8: end of every breakdown, I'll try to keep it short.
Speaker 4: I won't. I try not to go nerdy too much
Speaker 4: nerdy on it because I can get really do. Aparently
Speaker 4: every team that won has come from the other one position. Yeah,
Speaker 4: no one's ever won since param made it from six
Speaker 4: positions and can played penrith. I'm going like twenty when
Speaker 4: you camera twenty twenty two, wasn't it when Paramatta? Yeah,
Speaker 4: twenty two. They're the only team that's come from six
Speaker 4: playing in the final. Yeah, so one has been one,
Speaker 4: two or three? Yeah, so it's one to or three. Well,
Speaker 4: that that's right, not many, not many teams. It must
Speaker 4: be too hard to win it outside of the eighth
Speaker 4: because you play that one extra game and that's yeah.
Speaker 4: If you don't if yeah, It's funny.
Speaker 1: If I was a coach and you had a competitive team,
Speaker 1: the first thing I'd say on opening day of pre
Speaker 1: season training is I just said, boys, answer me one question.
Speaker 1: Can we win four games in a row. If the answers,
Speaker 1: if you believe you can, we can win the camp.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Basically, that's what it comes down to. Basically, at
Speaker 4: the end of the pen's got to win seven. Yeah
Speaker 4: we get there. I mean make there. That won't make
Speaker 4: because the last three games Melbourne Canterbury. But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: if you beat all that, then you've got your semi
Speaker 4: finals and they'll get your top four. They are that'll
Speaker 4: get your top four. It's like the Tigers in ninety
Speaker 4: eighty eight had to win virtually every eleven I remember
Speaker 4: Brooks ten games was like a grand final. Every game
Speaker 4: Keept in a Grand final. So they came fifth in
Speaker 4: the playoffs. That Squeaze in playoffs played Penrith. That's right,
Speaker 4: That's right. So yeah, it's it's hard to do. Yeah
Speaker 4: what and you video Reckon is going to be in
Speaker 4: the Grand Final. I think Canterbury. You don't think Melbourne canning.
Speaker 4: You're hesitaining. I'd love canber being there, just but I
Speaker 4: think it will be Melbourne Canterbury if they don't meet
Speaker 4: Melbourne can if they don't meet in the way.
Speaker 8: Right at this moment, will be that will be the
Speaker 8: first semi final. Play two, plays three, then spl you
Speaker 8: can get a second chance they split then yeah, then
Speaker 8: they split. There's a way they can a ways to go, yeah,
Speaker 8: way long, way one or two. So I just said
Speaker 8: that kind of Tracy got injured and probably probably won't
Speaker 8: come back.
Speaker 4: To Huges out to semi final time until semi final.
Speaker 4: But they they got pas, They're stacked.
Speaker 1: And these are guys who signed contracts happy to play
Speaker 1: second fiddles. Tells you something about that club, right, culture
Speaker 1: of the club. That tells you something about when you
Speaker 1: when you sign. It's interesting like with Paramounted this year
Speaker 1: we've been struggling for a hook us into read money left.
Speaker 1: This young Riley Smith came from Penrith, right, it's so
Speaker 1: good debut this year, doing really well. Then they go
Speaker 1: and sign the silver. Yeah something different And three days
Speaker 1: after signing the silver, Riley Smith extended amazing the obviously
Speaker 1: sat them down and said, boys, this is the plan
Speaker 1: I had and they're both playing and I believe you
Speaker 1: I believe you need a hook on the bench. I
Speaker 1: reckon dummy half. You need to keep it fresh.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and two different tops of his delivery from off
Speaker 8: the ground and he.
Speaker 4: Extended three days after they signed it. It's like you
Speaker 4: go back to and I'll take it to Soccer Champions League.
Speaker 4: Your bench has to be as strong as your starting
Speaker 4: line up. But it's but it's good. It's good when
Speaker 4: when they buy into that. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: The culture.
Speaker 1: Just Riley Smith's in the position where we could have
Speaker 1: gone like someone to look elsewhere, but he goes, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm happy with the player, you know, because you need
Speaker 1: a fresh dummy half.
Speaker 4: I believe you need a fresh halfs and and the
Speaker 4: good thing is if you've got two different and George
Speaker 4: has got the perfect, should have the perfect with Cook
Speaker 4: and then little coming up. It's not working with Cook.
Speaker 4: I don't think Cook cooks the shadow of his former self.
Speaker 8: I think he's got one more year and then they
Speaker 8: won't take his tracked up list gives it a go.
Speaker 4: Passionate. Look.
Speaker 1: If does nothing else, he's always safe as a bank.
Speaker 1: If he does nothing.
Speaker 8: Else, mind you, Saint George, as we saw King Tonga,
Speaker 8: coming up. Pretty pretty stacked. King Tonga pretty mean me
Speaker 8: remember King Tonga. And so the two teams that well, yeah,
Speaker 8: I mean teams that are completely utter. The underneath stack
Speaker 8: that i've seen is the Tigers, Saint George and Paramounta
Speaker 8: actually Paramedta. I've got two kids a back roller. I
Speaker 8: can't reader their names, but i've seen them.
Speaker 1: They just signed a Brisbane kid. They signed the Brisbane
Speaker 1: kid on Friday who apparently the Broncos were pissed that
Speaker 1: they got away.
Speaker 4: He's a forward. The guy looks twelve. He's playing Australian
Speaker 4: school boys. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 11: You guys are absolutely stacked up. It's ridiculous stack. Honestly,
Speaker 11: it's ridiculous. See your microphones, can't. I know it's at
Speaker 11: the end of the I've got to get a new court,
Speaker 11: I think.
Speaker 4: Anyway, that's me. That's a wrap. Andy.
Speaker 1: You got anything for us you want to, I just
Speaker 1: like to thank you for having me on until job.
Speaker 1: You're welcome to join us at anytime.
Speaker 4: You can even call in. You can cut here, come
Speaker 4: and sit beside me here. We can fit all five
Speaker 4: of us in anytime. Maybe we've got to stack the
Speaker 4: Italians against inimy number. These guys will know Greeks. These
Speaker 4: guys know a fourteen year old Greek playing and everyone's Greek. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I heard last week and going on about this one's Greek,
Speaker 4: this one's Greek. Everyone's great. The fullback from.
Speaker 1: Waycon Tank looked him up. He's Sipriate, sipriot Greek, sipri
Speaker 1: sae different say.
Speaker 4: They say the Greeks invented sexy Italians. Just women we
Speaker 4: got we made up. Look, we got the wrong people.
Speaker 4: We definitely love to have your back, especially around any time.
Speaker 4: Call me any time and I'll be here thanks to
Speaker 4: man and uh And that's it.
Speaker 1: So that's a wrap for tonight's episode again, episode one
Speaker 1: hundred and ten, George one hundred and ten couple. They
Speaker 1: said we'd never make anyone who said that, but a
Speaker 1: lot of pods apparently don't don't go that far.
Speaker 4: But we've done one hundred and ten episodes. Can I
Speaker 4: just add one thing? Last week I listened and Nick
Speaker 4: was talking about the internationals. You know there's people that
Speaker 4: fly over, fly over somehow. I thin I want to
Speaker 4: play for some mo I agree under Nick. That's just
Speaker 4: my opinion.
Speaker 1: Nick, that's just my and apparently now Land is going
Speaker 1: to alter the origin eligibility play.
Speaker 4: You can play for New South Isles, and you can
Speaker 4: play for Samow and you can play for Timbuktu and all.
Speaker 8: There should be one national saying you ever played for Australia. Okay,
Speaker 8: and that's it. I don't disagree that you've got to
Speaker 8: separate the two. I don't agree we're in where you
Speaker 8: can play New South files. Can I say you can
Speaker 8: represent New Southiles but then you can go and play
Speaker 8: for Tonga.
Speaker 4: Can I say white? That?
Speaker 1: Can I say White's bullshit? And why the whole thing
Speaker 1: is a manipulation to create a manufactured competition, Because the
Speaker 1: Samour team should be thirteen pricks we've never heard of
Speaker 1: from Samowa, not from Sydney. Right, the Lebanon team should
Speaker 1: be for eleven. No, the Tongua team should come from Tonga,
Speaker 1: not from Australia. We're picking all these other countries from
Speaker 1: the Australian cop So.
Speaker 4: You do realize that that's the cream of the tongue
Speaker 4: and people are playing in yourself, I agree with they're playing.
Speaker 8: So you do realize that you can't become n R
Speaker 8: standard if you don't play in the NRL.
Speaker 4: Then they shouldn't be playing internationals. They're not. You don't
Speaker 4: play internationals. The game can't expand it's done fine for
Speaker 4: one hundred and twenty years. I agree, I agree. If
Speaker 4: you look, if you put the Blues jersey on you,
Speaker 4: if you're good enough to play for New South Wales,
Speaker 4: how can you say you can play for Tongue later?
Speaker 4: Why can't, like Nick said, because the Three Games back
Speaker 4: in the day, in the eighties and nineties, the Three
Speaker 4: Games of Origin was a pre selection for the Australian Wars.
Speaker 4: Back in the day, come on which Whi's called a span?
Speaker 4: Yeah you've got a guy playing, well, you can play,
Speaker 4: you can play five? Was that? What year?
Speaker 10: Was it?
Speaker 4: What bigger?
Speaker 8: What was the percentage of of Orlanders in the competition?
Speaker 15: No one, Nows are a lot more competitive than now.
Speaker 4: In the early nineties England were very competitive. Now now
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 8: I'm not going to say that England and England they
Speaker 8: don't play, they can't play anything, but completely different.
Speaker 4: The whole idea that for me to have Tonga, Samoa,
Speaker 4: New Zealand, Cook Island's competitive. At the end of the day,
Speaker 4: it all comes down the money. For me, it can't
Speaker 4: be tiered. If you're playing in the same match for
Speaker 4: the same trophy, that's not different levels. I don't want
Speaker 4: a guy playing who outright declares his even at the countries.
Speaker 4: You know, if a guy plays for Tonga and he
Speaker 4: plays in the owneral, I've got an issue with that,
Speaker 4: not a problem. You can represent your country because you
Speaker 4: do that in you do that in the city are
Speaker 4: you're doing in the English Premier League. You can play
Speaker 4: for Manchester you're not, but still play for Belgium. I've
Speaker 4: got no problem playing that. My problem is you want
Speaker 4: to play, you want to play state of origin, but
Speaker 4: then you want to represent Okay, fucking Tonga or somehow
Speaker 4: so when they've already played for they've already played for Australia.
Speaker 4: Some of them are okay, but they only played second
Speaker 4: there because they can't get They couldn't get in your
Speaker 4: shining team, which is pathetic. They're going to do. If
Speaker 4: you can't make it, then you don't make it.
Speaker 8: They're gonna they're going to stop that. So so let's
Speaker 8: separate the two. Let's separate origin, let's separate club, and
Speaker 8: let's separate internationals. Okay, let's say there was a there's
Speaker 8: a kid who either was born here or by fourteen,
Speaker 8: he's in Australia and he plays his first.
Speaker 4: Games here. Okay, so he's he can he can pick
Speaker 4: who everyone's to represent.
Speaker 8: Okay, can stick and and yeah he picks he picks them.
Speaker 4: Old great, eligible to play in our whatever's because you
Speaker 4: have just said you've declared Australian. He's not Australia. The
Speaker 4: more you playing, if it's not, if you're playing for
Speaker 4: some hour, you're forfeiting you.
Speaker 8: And you know what, they're probably going to change that
Speaker 8: because i've heard for Lan, I read his newsletter every
Speaker 8: second week. They're probably going to change that. But do
Speaker 8: you realize what you're going to do to the Origin arena.
Speaker 1: It'll be fine, it'll be fine. It was fine without
Speaker 1: a guy you're talk about. You're talking about a.
Speaker 4: Competition that I think, I think you should be an
Speaker 4: All Star. You're talking about a competition, but that's a
Speaker 4: different game. Wrong, you're a guy played for the Indigenous,
Speaker 4: like you saw that Maori against the gay guy. One
Speaker 4: year played for the Indigenous and the next year played
Speaker 4: for the Maury's.
Speaker 1: You're talking about it because half you're talking about a
Speaker 1: competition that made its very name on the back of
Speaker 1: a reserve grade player, and you're worried about whether or
Speaker 1: not it will survive. Arthur Beaton was playing reserve whoever
Speaker 1: is fine power playing reserve grade thirty five in origin one.
Speaker 8: You know what, that was a long long time ago
Speaker 8: and they were in a different world back then.
Speaker 4: It's like the Queenslanders stick to that tradition of of
Speaker 4: the of the Jersey and and I still that. I
Speaker 4: still believe.
Speaker 8: I still believe if you're bornie or you say you're
Speaker 8: a new yourself, I still believe that. And we will
Speaker 8: never have the passion that the Queenslanders, which you were there,
Speaker 8: we went and we done. Unfortunately we haven't. But regardless
Speaker 8: of that, I believe. Also it's up to the to
Speaker 8: the coaches, because that's what Billy does, that's.
Speaker 4: What takes him to the draws.
Speaker 8: He tells them, He tells them about the culture, He
Speaker 8: draws about being a marine.
Speaker 4: So how did you do that to a guy who
Speaker 4: boast for New Southwest but he's representing Samoa or Donga
Speaker 4: or whatever has he got that draw down? And it
Speaker 4: was down.
Speaker 1: So if a plant isn't good enough to make Australia.
Speaker 1: It's like Tina, he's played for Australia, how many times
Speaker 1: he might change his mind and play for to come on?
Speaker 8: That's wrong too. I don't agree with that either. But
Speaker 8: sometimes and and us been of a different culture. For
Speaker 8: arguments sake, we have such belief and can love for
Speaker 8: our parents for argument sake, and your mom, because my
Speaker 8: dad's told me things and I've taken as gospel. I've
Speaker 8: taken it as God gospel and thinking about it, now,
Speaker 8: shouldn't I shouldn't have. And I see Costa takes take
Speaker 8: things and cause of my son, he takes things as gospel.
Speaker 8: When I say, when I think about it, I go, well, no,
Speaker 8: cost don't take it as gospel. Okay, But maybe they're
Speaker 8: so passionate about representing.
Speaker 4: If you had to play for Greece or Australia, who
Speaker 4: would you pick. I was born in Australia, of course,
Speaker 4: Nick Australia. I'm the same. But I can't but I
Speaker 4: can't change. You've heard of Christian Veri, the soccer player
Speaker 4: Australian Italy.
Speaker 1: You've heard you might not come on? Who won the
Speaker 1: World Cup with Italy? To choose between Brazil Argentina and
Speaker 1: Italy who.
Speaker 4: Very he played for Marconi, his parents dad played for once.
Speaker 4: To make a choice, that's it. See the difference is
Speaker 4: you can't change in rugby league.
Speaker 8: We're manufacturing this competition by saying if you're not good
Speaker 8: enough to make this team, he's got for this team.
Speaker 4: That it's ridiculous pick one. If you're not going to
Speaker 4: have to make it, you don't make it. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: understand the aric I can understand. I can understand do
Speaker 4: we for Tigers? With all due respect, he's not going
Speaker 4: to make the Australian team, So by all means, I've
Speaker 4: got no problem. Do you not think the Australian jersey
Speaker 4: has has lost its value?
Speaker 1: With all these people expecting from it, people like Junior Paulo,
Speaker 1: people like if Tina does, all these players who once
Speaker 1: wore the Australian jumper with nothing, you're defecting from it.
Speaker 4: I also don't like seeing Australian winning fifty. Well, we
Speaker 4: shouldn't be playing. Do you remember? You should you remember
Speaker 4: when when we were younger, the eighties kangaroos, How prestigious
Speaker 4: was it to where the green and gold from eighty two?
Speaker 4: It should be trying nations in that.
Speaker 1: If the like I said last week, if the Polynesians
Speaker 1: won't have a team, make a West Indies version of it, right,
Speaker 1: But you're playing for that, you're not playing for as
Speaker 1: quite competitive. If you look at the Simonan team, there's
Speaker 1: this four hundred Origin players there.
Speaker 4: Tonguan team is quite competitive. There are competitive And I
Speaker 4: got no problem with having those teams if you pick.
Speaker 1: If you pick the Tongue And team today and the
Speaker 1: Simons if they're playing each other tonight, and then I
Speaker 1: say to you, whatever those two teams are, I want
Speaker 1: you to strip out anyone who's played for Australia or Origin.
Speaker 1: You know you've got left ship, you've got nothing left,
Speaker 1: but you've got reserve grade left. That's it again. They
Speaker 1: in the manufacturing and international competition. They're trying to the
Speaker 1: n r L is manufacturing an international competition.
Speaker 6: That I know.
Speaker 4: I get a bite.
Speaker 8: I think I think you're look, he's going to do
Speaker 8: what your user all suggested.
Speaker 4: I don't think. I think you've got you gotta pick.
Speaker 4: You can't you can't play Origin. No, I don't want
Speaker 4: to play for a Stralia. Australian cheapens many minute. I
Speaker 4: agree with that they should pick one. But but they
Speaker 4: should be able to pick up play origin. Why because
Speaker 4: they were born or though he then did they play
Speaker 4: for you're born in Australia, but you yourself, you pick Australia,
Speaker 4: you know, so then they should have to face that choice.
Speaker 4: Then they can pick, but they get a choice, and
Speaker 4: the I'm not going to make No one's telling you
Speaker 4: you can't pick some up. You're not playing origin. You're
Speaker 4: gonna make a choice. You can't present an Australian state
Speaker 4: and a foreign country at the same time. It's absurd.
Speaker 4: It doesn't make any sense to me. Again, I understand
Speaker 4: what you're saying. And at the time, if you look
Speaker 4: in rugby union is the barbarians when you've got England, Wales, Scotland.
Speaker 4: But that's what.
Speaker 8: I understand. What I agree with yours. I don't disagree
Speaker 8: with you. But I look at the game, and I
Speaker 8: look at the international arena, and I look at longevity,
Speaker 8: and I honestly believe this is the best sins.
Speaker 4: I don't think we need it.
Speaker 1: I think if we have the Super League of Internationals
Speaker 1: right Australia, Britain, New Zealand, for me, it's worked for
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty years, but we can't. It's worked
Speaker 1: one hundred twe you show me, you share me footage
Speaker 1: of the eighty two to eighty six.
Speaker 8: Can we still work on a model which was which
Speaker 8: was made nineteen seventy two?
Speaker 1: Why not?
Speaker 4: Because the world goes forward.
Speaker 8: Well, it's like I told me, it's the same, exactly
Speaker 8: the same.
Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know. I have no idea.
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you they've expanded the competitions to include
Speaker 1: countries that we've never heard of.
Speaker 4: You, I don't agree. Where you have a World Cup
Speaker 4: team and I'll go back to dug soccer where you
Speaker 4: have the French national team. Not one of them was
Speaker 4: born in French. No, they're all born in French colonial
Speaker 4: which makes you eligible eligible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know it's the great People are going
Speaker 1: to call me racists for saying this, but it's I
Speaker 1: don't give a ship. The greatest email I've ever seen
Speaker 1: in my life. I've got an email once that said
Speaker 1: evidence of global warming. They had a pad of the
Speaker 1: French national team in sixty six they're all white and
Speaker 1: in the nineties they're all black.
Speaker 8: They were colored them because they're all colonial, French colonial,
Speaker 8: and most of the French England sorry, and French can
Speaker 8: draw from.
Speaker 4: The colonial island. But here's the thing.
Speaker 1: How many, whether it's France or any other international soccer
Speaker 1: team at the World Cup level, how many times have
Speaker 1: you seen a player represent more than one country?
Speaker 4: Never?
Speaker 1: Never, never happened, because they've got to pick, and that's
Speaker 1: it enough to make it enough you play for If.
Speaker 4: I and I agree, that's an issue.
Speaker 8: I agree that's an issue if they are when they
Speaker 8: enter the in our rule, when they get their contracts,
Speaker 8: they pick a country. Let's say let's say I picked
Speaker 8: some Yeah, okay, okay, so I don't I don't go
Speaker 8: from one to the other, Okay, but I was born here.
Speaker 4: I don't think it should be done when you first joint.
Speaker 1: You're talking about later on. I couldn't give a ship.
Speaker 1: If Brian Too is not in the New South Wales team,
Speaker 1: Jacob kras will be there.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: We have got Australian players who can play origin, right
Speaker 1: and and if we're going to open it up to
Speaker 1: these bullfads, then we should have opened it up to
Speaker 1: New Zealand as well.
Speaker 4: I agree with it, you know what I mean just
Speaker 4: open it up to anyone, anyone. If you're born here,
Speaker 4: really what it is because you're born here, if you're
Speaker 4: born certainly have to be to be born here, that
Speaker 4: you have to play your first game where you're born.
Speaker 4: Greg English was born in New Southales. Peter Sterling was
Speaker 4: born in Queensland.
Speaker 8: But but I'm saying, I'm saying if I was, if
Speaker 8: you're born here, or you're yourself, if your heritage is small,
Speaker 8: it doesn't matter.
Speaker 4: What your heritage, because you're you're Australian citizen, you're Australian.
Speaker 4: I would proudly play for New South Wales and I
Speaker 4: would double proudly play for Australia. Same. I'm with you,
Speaker 4: not a problem. So I love my Italian heritage. I
Speaker 4: love it. But if I push comes to chef, I'm
Speaker 4: going there. But because I don't make the Australian team,
Speaker 4: oh I'll go and play for That's what they can do.
Speaker 4: They can do that. They can't especially to walk up you.
Speaker 4: They can do that.
Speaker 8: I'm saying, get rid of that. Okay, it's I don't
Speaker 8: like it either. But the other bit, if you're born here,
Speaker 8: I think you should be able to Was was Loui Bornie.
Speaker 8: I don't know, boy for you if you can't look,
Speaker 8: I think they're going to change it. They're having a
Speaker 8: mother's a meeting.
Speaker 4: It's too much options.
Speaker 8: I think they're going to make some Tonga the first
Speaker 8: team nation and that's Look, if.
Speaker 4: You picked guys, there'd be outstanding teams. I love watching
Speaker 4: the the boys play. It's not Origin anymore. But not
Speaker 4: in Origin, not in Orangintha.
Speaker 8: Well that's I think that's what they're gonna they're gonna do.
Speaker 4: That's what because the Origin pomp was pre selection for
Speaker 4: the Australia. If you remember, and thinking fun will get in,
Speaker 4: or will get in? Well, Sterling get in or you
Speaker 4: That's how it was. And when they picked the Australian
Speaker 4: to him, you go, there's nine Queenslanders in five there
Speaker 4: was a French then remember yeah, I used to that.
Speaker 4: I should be.
Speaker 8: Yeah, look, we'll see what's going to happen. And I
Speaker 8: get and I'll get the premise on.
Speaker 4: On if disrespect because they're all great players. But I
Speaker 4: don't mean the disrespect. But I just think I'm a
Speaker 4: bit more passionate when it comes to the Green and Golden.
Speaker 4: They're manufacturing the competition. That's all they're doing in.
Speaker 12: A way, yes, because they've got to get Yes, yes,
Speaker 12: yes it is, but they've got to manufacture.
Speaker 8: If you don't call it the Islanders or the game.
Speaker 4: Standard competition in some you can't be let me finish.
Speaker 4: Shouldn't be in the picture. It's that simple. But let's
Speaker 4: go and create a team in Zimbabwe. How many right,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? How many?
Speaker 8: How many players Australians in soccer? How many players play
Speaker 8: at a high level. So nearly every European country, in
Speaker 8: every South American country play at a very high level.
Speaker 8: We're talking hundreds of thousands of players.
Speaker 4: How many World Cups have we had?
Speaker 8: What a minute, we haven't got hundreds of thousands.
Speaker 4: How many World Cups have we had? I don't know.
Speaker 1: The first time was in nineteen thirty you mean soccer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's almost one hundred years, four years, right, How many
Speaker 1: teams have won it?
Speaker 4: Nine? Nine?
Speaker 1: Okay, there's a reason for that because they haven't manufactured.
Speaker 1: Other countries. Ukream rice is to the top.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: If there's not an NRL standard competition in our country
Speaker 1: nowhere and nowhere, not even England, then those countries shouldn't
Speaker 1: be in the picture.
Speaker 4: But you can't look within. You got to you got
Speaker 4: to look without. There's nothing they ever look at. We're
Speaker 4: creating it from within. We're manufacturing it from within. There's
Speaker 4: nothing they're to look at, but you're developing players in it.
Speaker 8: You've got the only way they're going to be NRL
Speaker 8: players is to playing in our rule way that a
Speaker 8: rugby league player is going to.
Speaker 4: How much to their best potential?
Speaker 1: How much to play and how much better would the
Speaker 1: Australian team be when there's thirty players fighting for those
Speaker 1: thirty spots like it used to be, instead of thirty
Speaker 1: players being spread out over three different countries.
Speaker 4: So so you want Australia to win fifteen every week?
Speaker 4: That's not That's not what I saw growing up. No,
Speaker 4: not in said that.
Speaker 1: Growing up, I saw great, great games against especially great Britain.
Speaker 1: I saw great competition growing up.
Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, well that's probably the only team we'll have
Speaker 8: competitive games.
Speaker 4: There's only three countries in rugby league that not competitive.
Speaker 4: That's that's what they're trying to address. They're manufacturing. Okay,
Speaker 4: that's my point. You want to call that, yes, let's manufacturer.
Speaker 4: I disagree with that. I think we've losing the thing
Speaker 4: because I think we're concentrated more than I was talking
Speaker 4: more about State of Origin. Okay, well you can't. I think,
Speaker 4: play for State of Origin, then go and played for
Speaker 4: some other. That was my point.
Speaker 8: I've got no problem with show having an international side.
Speaker 8: I mean, can I just say I don't disagree with you.
Speaker 8: I don't disagree either, But what do you.
Speaker 4: Play star State of Origin for? Originally?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 7: What?
Speaker 4: What was stayed against? State? Passionate against? But also you're
Speaker 4: playing for the Jersey. It was a selection troll. I
Speaker 4: don't think it really is anymore. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 8: That's the point, because I don't think I don't think
Speaker 8: it would be anyway. Even if you don't get those
Speaker 8: players you're talking about tongs, I don't think it'd be.
Speaker 1: Weal we talked about the new South Wales jumper doesn't
Speaker 1: mean as much as the Queen's They jumper. The Australian
Speaker 1: jumper means even less because so many people have defected
Speaker 1: from it.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: I don't want to wear that ship. I don't want
Speaker 1: to play for Tonga. What we're talking about the Australian jumper. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're walking away from it. Yeah, I'll say it again.
Speaker 1: I I don't know about they're walking away from it.
Speaker 8: I like, I like, we've gone now because all of
Speaker 8: a sudden we've developed a matter of factur you want
Speaker 8: to call it, three other countries which are of high level.
Speaker 1: And I know very I know there are Sydney based
Speaker 1: players who are Australians who are wearing a different countries jersey.
Speaker 4: That's regardless of I haven't got a problem. I've got
Speaker 4: an issue with that. I don't mind him playing for whatever.
Speaker 4: I just don't play Origin. But don't play Origin. That's
Speaker 4: that's my Origin. Yourself isn't ineligible to play Origin because
Speaker 4: you know what, I choose to play for New Zealand Origin.
Speaker 4: That's my point. Origin doesn't need them.
Speaker 8: Well, look at the end of the day, comes comes
Speaker 8: September or November. When they get together, they're going to
Speaker 8: make look look at yourself. The first thing a first.
Speaker 1: Blue eyes ineligible because it's someone Burton goes into five
Speaker 1: eight is ineligible because whoever he plays for Carrass comes in.
Speaker 4: Doesn't matter who it is. We've got the team. Yeah,
Speaker 4: there's six in each team.
Speaker 1: Origin suffer from whoever these guys are. Yeah, it never has.
Speaker 8: I understand what you're saying. But also also those particular
Speaker 8: players that we're talking about, and.
Speaker 4: It cheapens their origin ornament as well.
Speaker 8: Okay, those those particular players are talking about are playing
Speaker 8: on such a high level and it didn't happen issue,
Speaker 8: but in general, because they did play origin, because you
Speaker 8: go to another level plane origin, you do. So you
Speaker 8: want to call it matter of factural call what if
Speaker 8: you work? But these players go back to their teams
Speaker 8: and their countries better players.
Speaker 4: So at the end of the they won't have that.
Speaker 1: The bottom line for me is I believe you've got
Speaker 1: to pick one nationality you want to represent.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 1: Once you've done that, see, then everything falls under that.
Speaker 1: So if I'm Samoan, I can't represent New South Wales,
Speaker 1: it doesn't make any sense to me at all.
Speaker 4: Okay, agreed to disagree, get your point. I agree, I
Speaker 4: just don't like it. I agree with you that I'm
Speaker 4: born can play for New South I was Australia. You can't.
Speaker 4: Well how old were you when you're here?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 4: No, just shouldn't matter. Look for example, you're born, I
Speaker 4: can't play for Australia unless Australian citizenship you're taking manage.
Speaker 4: You know they can change, can they can ben the
Speaker 4: rules more than more than a Catholic church.
Speaker 8: To do whatever to make you get where they want
Speaker 8: to go. You know what I mean, it's at the
Speaker 8: end of the day. At the bottom line, I don't
Speaker 8: disagree with you. I agree with you guys as well.
Speaker 4: At origin level. I'm talking. I'm not talking.
Speaker 1: I like international Get your point. My point is, I
Speaker 1: don't think we need to gre to then international game.
Speaker 1: I think it's been fine as it is, and I
Speaker 1: think we should level like that. Okay, I think should
Speaker 1: change the course of history just because he wants to.
Speaker 4: I like seeing I like seeing some hour or tongue
Speaker 4: of pump England or actually I look, I.
Speaker 8: Like the international game, and I wanted to grow and
Speaker 8: I want to get France back up to some decent standard.
Speaker 4: That's just me. Maybe I'm selfish. Were they ever at
Speaker 4: a decent standard? That was? They were the first. Apparently
Speaker 4: in the eighties French Australia used to go over there
Speaker 4: and it was a belt feast like the French would.
Speaker 4: They had that Tasbiteria. Remember we played for Canterbury. He
Speaker 4: went over there and he took a lot of Australians
Speaker 4: over there to play in their local comp and it
Speaker 4: was absolute they would punch.
Speaker 8: The first two World Cups. France one that would punch
Speaker 8: the rugby League World Cup. And I'm just saying, I'm
Speaker 8: just saying. Still it's still just look i'd liked, I liked.
Speaker 8: I enjoy watching competitive international rugby league, and and and
Speaker 8: and the pathways would to that is.
Speaker 1: I think might take. It is similar to whether it
Speaker 1: is going. I hate the fact that it's going to
Speaker 1: be a twenty team comp. I think it should be
Speaker 1: a fourteen team comp period. That's just that's I think
Speaker 1: I'm aligned the too aligned for me, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I think everything's about growing, growing, growing. I
Speaker 1: want to go back to Super League.
Speaker 8: You know, there's two different ways of two different schools.
Speaker 8: I agree, if we had fourteen teams, obviously the talent.
Speaker 4: Will everyone plays each other twice? Yep, I disagree.
Speaker 8: But in terms of the long game, there's got to
Speaker 8: be more. Well, okay, one.
Speaker 4: Hundred and twenty years, George, how long is it? Yeah?
Speaker 4: But wait a minute.
Speaker 8: Once upon a time, Once, once upon a time, players
Speaker 8: will play for meat, pine or coke.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Now, now everybody wants one point four two million dollars.
Speaker 8: The only way you're going to get it is for television, right, Yeah,
Speaker 8: the only way you're to get it is for television rights. Okay,
Speaker 8: well that's what the land is trying to do. Okay,
Speaker 8: So so you know, you know what, no problem.
Speaker 4: You can say that.
Speaker 1: You think you think you wouldn't have a TV deal
Speaker 1: with fourteen teams, bullshit, you won't have b I think
Speaker 1: you'd have a bigger deal.
Speaker 4: I think there'd be more. I think the ratings not
Speaker 4: the way I disagree. Well, they're telling what they're telling us.
Speaker 4: What they're telling us is bullshit. Man. That look, stats
Speaker 4: are like bikinis. They show you up.
Speaker 1: But you can't say everything. You've got to give so
Speaker 1: easy to manufacture starts to make them appear a certain
Speaker 1: way that you want to tell a story.
Speaker 8: That's just bullshit. You do going to He's going to
Speaker 8: break everything up. Yeah, and I will w origin different,
Speaker 8: semi final season different. You know he's going to sell
Speaker 8: it all separately.
Speaker 4: For me. I don't give a ship about the n W.
Speaker 4: I've never watched it.
Speaker 8: Ye, no, no, it's fine, don't no issue. I'm just
Speaker 8: talking about. That's just me the hard, the hard reality facts. Yeah,
Speaker 8: twelve teams are great, but no one's going to get
Speaker 8: I think no one's going to be getting one point
Speaker 8: two two million dollars in the future. No, no, no,
Speaker 8: no issue. I'm just saying the only way moving forward
Speaker 8: is what orlandis is doing. There's no doubt in my mind.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean. No, if I like it,
Speaker 4: they like it, Like I said, what he's doing. But
Speaker 4: I don't like when you start gagging people and people
Speaker 4: can't say things. I think when when you gag, when
Speaker 4: you gag, it's draconian and you cannot you cannot get
Speaker 4: what if my team gets robbed, can get robbed the
Speaker 4: God's control? Who are you? I can't. I put so
Speaker 4: much time, effort, effort, and I'm getting gagged. So we're
Speaker 4: going from one thing Twitter. Oh no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: that part of the landing. I don't like that game.
Speaker 4: I reckon he's injected the game with a cancer. To
Speaker 4: be honest. Yeah, well he's a business as a businessman, fantastic,
Speaker 4: But when you start gagging and you're not allowed to
Speaker 4: do this, you're not allowed to do that. Then he
Speaker 4: didn't email because he would have been caught out.
Speaker 8: He rang all the media shutlets and said it said,
Speaker 8: no negative stories. For God's sake, we can't talk about
Speaker 8: That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 4: Wrong. It's crazy, it's crazy commentator, because I've all been
Speaker 4: getting who's playing the at the end of the day,
Speaker 4: with the exception of Phil Good, who can have a
Speaker 4: double standard? Whoa Phil? It's on this? On this you
Speaker 4: watch that, Michael Chamers than with Phil Good. I watched
Speaker 4: it online. I didn't watch it. It's destroyed him.
Speaker 8: He did destroy, he did destroy, absolutely exposed to him.
Speaker 8: What what what proper human being he really is? And
Speaker 8: I say it, he shouldn't have both jobs. He shouldn't
Speaker 8: be Oh in three years yeah, always said three.
Speaker 4: Years ago, if we we lost forty points, I was happy.
Speaker 1: I've always say I've always said whenever I listened to school,
Speaker 1: I learned something about Yeah. Absolute, he's absolutely genius.
Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, no, absolutely yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, I injected another twenty minutes into the entertainment uge.
Speaker 1: I'm passionate about it. Passion I'm going to click that
Speaker 1: one up. I'm going to get I think I clicked
Speaker 1: that one up. Believe out the French soccer team.
Speaker 4: I think you better cut the French global warding out. Hey,
Speaker 4: shoot the messenger.
Speaker 8: The look in terms of in terms of what we
Speaker 8: said lately, in terms of the last bit we talked
Speaker 8: about it's passion wrong. Yeah, but what you said about
Speaker 8: playing picking and playing not playing for Australias and that
Speaker 8: in origin, that's going to happen because he's going to
Speaker 8: make them. He's going to make smaller Tongua first tear.
Speaker 1: He's I don't even watch the international, but when we
Speaker 1: get to the end of the season, I need a
Speaker 1: break from rugby league.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is but the summer is too long, especially
Speaker 4: for your rugbie struggle. That's what was too late. I
Speaker 4: hate summer. That's what indoor sports are for anyway. Anyway,
Speaker 4: that's a rap. Let's get out of here. That's a wrap.
Speaker 1: Thanks everyone, Thanks Andy for joining us, and welcome back
Speaker 1: anytime you like.
Speaker 4: Very much.
Speaker 1: George ten I know you'll hear this tomorrow. I hope
Speaker 1: everyone has a great week, and I hope you enjoyed
Speaker 1: our little whole Kuking tribute. Rest in peace and we'll
Speaker 1: see you all next week. Good Night, everybody,