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<v Speaker 1>Hell everybody through the facilities of the iHeartMedia Megaplex. This

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<v Speaker 1>is Dick Gabriel. It's a state wide edition of the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Blue and Society. He heard comments from Mark Stoops

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<v Speaker 1>and Tom Leach, Darren Hedrick and Jeff Pecoro. And now's

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<v Speaker 1>your chance to get involved with Billy rut Aaron Gershan

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<v Speaker 1>yours truly be a part of the state wide BBI

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<v Speaker 1>Border to border. It is the Big Blue Insider. Dick

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<v Speaker 1>Gabriel in studio with Billy Rutledge. Aaron gershawan, thanks to

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<v Speaker 1>these gentlemen for carrying the show last Monday night as

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<v Speaker 1>I was busy with UK Pro Day. We are going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk basketball tonight because we do have Pro Day

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about. Of course, we have Madness to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the return of Rick Patino, which didn't set well

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<v Speaker 1>with fifty percent of the two gentlemen I just mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>so we'll find out more about that. And we've got

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<v Speaker 1>to talk football obviously. And Aaron and I both attended

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<v Speaker 1>the news conference earlier today. Billy was busy with his

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<v Speaker 1>day job, but Aaron, it really wasn't much tonight that

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Stoops talked about that he didn't talk about with

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<v Speaker 1>us had a chance. I think, probably to look at

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<v Speaker 1>more videos since then, of course, But any way you

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<v Speaker 1>slice it and dice it, Kentucky played stupid football, just

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<v Speaker 1>just played really, I mean, I don't understand at the

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<v Speaker 1>bonehead plays, the penalties. Stoops himself admitted he made mistakes.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure it was a comedy of errors.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah it was. It was a pathetic performance. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>it was. It was as batter, if not worse than

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<v Speaker 2>the Week two game against South Carolina. Twelve penalties over

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred yards more hidden yards that that even accumulates

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<v Speaker 2>in the yard totals, even the hidden yards like big

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<v Speaker 2>plays take them. Wow, Yeah, unaccepted.

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<v Speaker 1>Puts him at like four hundred jars.

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<v Speaker 2>Two well, one drop polled, one bad snap, a terrible interception.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, it came off the board, I guess trying

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<v Speaker 2>to think was of the turnover fumble by Dame Key

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<v Speaker 2>in the high rid right, the interception that was terrible did,

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<v Speaker 2>luckily for Kentucky come off the board. Just just terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is all with reviews going their way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a lot went their way. I mean, look, Vandy

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<v Speaker 2>scored forty points last week and it was Kentucky's defense

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<v Speaker 2>great in this game. No, but they only squeak it up.

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<v Speaker 2>You should win games in the SEC if you hold

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<v Speaker 2>your opponent to twenty points. Diego Pavia was was he good? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>He was human.

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<v Speaker 2>He threw a pick like and they got to him.

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<v Speaker 2>They got three sacks like Kentucky's defense did enough to

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<v Speaker 2>win this football game. Offense terrible and the special teams,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean not just the drops hold barry On Brown

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<v Speaker 2>puts you in position to win the football game or

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<v Speaker 2>at least tye it where the pot returned to get

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<v Speaker 2>to the forty eight and a illegal block.

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<v Speaker 1>In the back nowhere near the football by a freshman year.

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<v Speaker 1>And I thought, the offense, if you should, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>do this. But for the sake argument, you can so

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<v Speaker 1>track the penalties. I thought the offense was really good.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they moved the ball, but every time they.

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<v Speaker 1>Do something good, they turn around. And I mean, if

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<v Speaker 1>you heard the broadcast, and Billy you did because you're

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<v Speaker 1>the network half to sir, yeah, you're you're pinned in here.

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<v Speaker 1>But how many times did you hear Tom and Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>and even me say not another flag?

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<v Speaker 3>It was frustrating, Oh god, it really is. And I'll

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<v Speaker 3>use a line that I think I've heard already three

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<v Speaker 3>times today and it came from Stoops. It's a thin

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<v Speaker 3>line between success and failure in this league and in

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<v Speaker 3>football and boys, he right, I mean, Aaron and I

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<v Speaker 3>had a great time hosting the show after talking about

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<v Speaker 3>a win versus Old Miss and coming off of bye

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<v Speaker 3>and getting to talk about the Alabama or Alabama Vandy game,

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<v Speaker 3>and now Vandy was the talk of college football.

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<v Speaker 1>Couldn't reach each other to pat each other exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And they'll be hungover for this game. There's no way

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<v Speaker 3>they'd come in to beat Kentucky again like two years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>But sadly this has become the norm lately and the

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<v Speaker 3>record of what two and ten in the last twelve

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<v Speaker 1>You make a great point though, credit Vandy for not

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<v Speaker 1>being hungover. Yeah, no, absolutely, But you know what, I

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<v Speaker 1>got to thinking about that during the game. If Vandy

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<v Speaker 1>were a big play chunk, you know, exciting down the

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<v Speaker 1>field kind of play, that might have been an issue.

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<v Speaker 1>But the way they play just grind it out even

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<v Speaker 1>if you're hungover from again. But you know, yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a great guard against that, isn't it. It is?

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<v Speaker 3>You also had an extra week to prepare for an

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<v Speaker 3>offense that you were probably going to see once this year,

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<v Speaker 3>so you thought you'd be very well prepared, and for

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<v Speaker 3>the most part you were. You held them to twenty

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<v Speaker 3>Pavia even got hurt in the game and wasn't as effective.

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<v Speaker 1>But part of the game plan.

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<v Speaker 3>But yes, story is that you weren't able to get

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<v Speaker 3>it done when you were across minfields. You it is,

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<v Speaker 3>but you know, how many years are we going to

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<v Speaker 3>say that? How many years in a row has it

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<v Speaker 3>been that discipline has been an issue on this team?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we have to start looking at who these

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<v Speaker 3>players are being coached by and why that's the case.

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<v Speaker 1>But weren't they the same coaches? You've got them ready

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<v Speaker 1>for all miss and Georgia.

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<v Speaker 3>That's that's why it's a That's why we're called fans

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<v Speaker 3>stick it's short for fanatic, and we have to somebody

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<v Speaker 3>has to answer after every loss.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like, you know, I think you disagree with

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<v Speaker 1>with Pcoro and man, I'm not sure about you, but

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<v Speaker 1>most of those penalties, if not all, I blame on

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<v Speaker 1>the players, the guys who do it. And here's part

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<v Speaker 1>of my reasoning is we have just a baffo NFL

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<v Speaker 1>game up on the wall tonight Buffalo and the Jets,

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<v Speaker 1>and you are huge NFL fans, we talk about our teams.

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<v Speaker 1>A nice win by the Packers. By the way, if

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<v Speaker 1>that game were an NFL game and players committed those penalties,

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<v Speaker 1>how many I'm sure some fans might because it's easy

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<v Speaker 1>to throw barbs at coaches, But you know as well

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<v Speaker 1>as I do, that an overwhelming majority of the criticism

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<v Speaker 1>would have been heraled at the players. That that's the

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<v Speaker 1>difference between pro and college. Coaches are just worshiped in

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<v Speaker 1>college and in the pros they're just I get rid

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<v Speaker 1>of them, move on. You know, the coaches are hired

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<v Speaker 1>to be fired in the pro game. So and I

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<v Speaker 1>realized professionals who played a lot more and all that

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<v Speaker 1>time stuff. But you're talking about I mean, do you

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<v Speaker 1>have to be coached? Hey, man, don't line up offside?

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<v Speaker 1>That's wrong. You know how many more times did Jerrow

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<v Speaker 1>Mincay had to be called for holding?

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<v Speaker 4>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>No, that's not easy. I get that I was an

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<v Speaker 1>offensive tackle for about a minute. It ain't easy. But

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<v Speaker 1>to play so beautifully in Oxford and so well against Georgia,

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<v Speaker 1>and I agree with Corol, you know, yeah, it's mental,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think it's bogus to have to expect a

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<v Speaker 1>coach to say, hey, guys, let's go, let's go. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if somebody has to tell you that you shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 3>I completely agree with that, especially when you only have

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<v Speaker 3>twelve thirteen games a year. You should be able to

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<v Speaker 3>get up for sall all week long.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's game day.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't necessarily agree with you can blame it

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<v Speaker 3>on the players because the coaches aren't the ones that

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<v Speaker 3>committed the penalty. I mean that's always going to be

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the coaches aren't playing in the game. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's I think it's tough to equate that.

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<v Speaker 3>But if it keeps happening over and over again, then

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<v Speaker 3>I think you have to find the common denominator.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but this year, how many other games were played

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<v Speaker 3>The You know, that's the strangest thing, Dick, because they

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<v Speaker 3>were the least penalized team in the SEC going into

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<v Speaker 3>this game. So, but there is common denominators like Stoops's

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<v Speaker 3>record after bye weeks and Stoop's record at home the

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<v Speaker 3>last four or five years. I mean, these cannot be

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<v Speaker 3>ignored because these fans keep spending their hard money to

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<v Speaker 3>buy tickets to go to Kroger Field to continually get

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the home thing is what's mind boggling. I don't understand.

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<v Speaker 2>And Mark and you know he brushed off when he

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<v Speaker 2>was asked about it on Monday, and his Monday press

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<v Speaker 2>conference before the game. After the game, he acknowledged, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>like I have had conversations with the guys. Is it distractions,

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<v Speaker 2>ticket problems, getting too amped up with family in town?

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<v Speaker 2>Like what is the problem? Why what is going on?

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<v Speaker 2>And it's just you're two in ten and it's not

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<v Speaker 2>like we were talking for the show. Yes, you have

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<v Speaker 2>two losses of Georgia and there most teams do. But

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<v Speaker 2>you have two to Van. Do you have two to

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<v Speaker 2>Seveuth Carolina? One to Missouri when you're up fourteen to

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<v Speaker 2>nothing and then up by seven going.

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<v Speaker 1>Out half fours.

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<v Speaker 2>It's half those games. They're one in five against Vandy

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<v Speaker 2>in South Carolina the last three years when they were

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<v Speaker 2>eleven and one when they got the things rolling from sea.

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<v Speaker 1>There's the thing, Bandy I think has improved. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think South Carolina is that good. And they then they

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<v Speaker 1>turn around and play well against other teams. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>still think Kentucky's better the South Carolina, and I thought

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky was better than.

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<v Speaker 3>Vander That's another indictment.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is another indictment because they are better than

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<v Speaker 2>both those teams. Especially. I still think, look, Vanderbilt, they're

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<v Speaker 2>definitely much improved, but I think a lot of it

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<v Speaker 2>is not necessarily talent scheme, Like their scheme is really

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<v Speaker 2>good offensively, Yeah, was there defense anything special at all?

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<v Speaker 2>Not really exactly, and they were ranked near the bottom

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<v Speaker 2>in the country and past defense, you know what, I

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<v Speaker 2>think we overlooked.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about it on the radio a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>but our heads were swimming from all the yellow flags.

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<v Speaker 1>But you could probably see it upstairs as well. Aaron,

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<v Speaker 1>He's O line, I thought set the tone as much

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<v Speaker 1>as anything for Vanderbilt. Those guys are huge. You got

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<v Speaker 1>a center who's three sixty and now Dan Walker's got

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<v Speaker 1>his hands full. I thought the push their O line

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<v Speaker 1>got was really good. And then you look at Tim

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<v Speaker 1>Beck's offense, where he's got a midget for a quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>who happens to be a magician, and what does he

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<v Speaker 1>do half the time? He rolls him out. And we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about that Vandergriff has been more effective rolling out

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<v Speaker 1>to protect Kentucky's O line. But Vandy has been doing

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<v Speaker 1>it since July, you know, working on that offense. So

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<v Speaker 1>credit uh Vandy. Credit Clark League, good coach for who

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<v Speaker 1>would want that job? Who would leave Notre Dame? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>guy who played there there, Yeah, he goes in too,

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<v Speaker 1>hire Tim Beck and comes home with Diego Pavia and

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<v Speaker 2>It was a home run. I mean, yeah, safe might

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<v Speaker 2>look it's Vandy. The really have a pretty long leash.

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<v Speaker 2>But it might have saved his job in the long run, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that move is a it's a program changing move,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, credit to them for making it. But

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<v Speaker 2>again into this year ten and twenty seven was at

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<v Speaker 2>and seven there. They came in here in one because

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<v Speaker 2>they beat Florida the next week. But just that's a

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<v Speaker 2>program saving move. But again Kentucky. Credit to Vanderbilt. But

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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky beat themselves worse than there's no question about it.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's bigger problems of foot here. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 3>four touchdowns and four sec games. Like, no matter how

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<v Speaker 3>many offensive coordinators to have been through, I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 3>some that teams get in one game. So I mean

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<v Speaker 1>This gave one away which he went away absolutely from

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<v Speaker 1>when they're four inches from the goal.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah, and didn't accept that penalty to go

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<v Speaker 3>closer and have an extra down, have the extra down.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they would have been Yeah, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>But then again, would you really think the way you

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they literally ran in a one yard run earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and when the flag was thrown, they had run

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<v Speaker 2>And that's another thing, the flags. But the offensive tackle

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<v Speaker 2>play this year's been terrible. Like I'm not trying to

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<v Speaker 2>rip into two individuals, but Gerald Mincy hasn't played to

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<v Speaker 2>the level that they were expecting him to. And Marcus

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<v Speaker 2>Cox's seventh year senior's playing bad football and it's frustrating.

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<v Speaker 2>And I did think better last year, much better last year.

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<v Speaker 2>And I did Mark Stoups didn't say much new on

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<v Speaker 2>the radio show tonight that he didn't say already, But

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<v Speaker 2>one thing that caught my ear was that he mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>again this week, that he might be a guy that

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<v Speaker 2>can come in and play. And I do wonder which

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<v Speaker 2>one of those tackles might lose their job if they're

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it all starts up front. Yeah, And as I said,

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<v Speaker 1>Vandy gave that Kentucky the vaunted Kentucky delon and I

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<v Speaker 1>say that with respect. They played well all year, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was I think a battle that not many people expected.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think Kentucky expected it. Rarely do you see

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<v Speaker 1>a Brad White defense go into a game. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>every once in a while it happens. But Terrence point

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<v Speaker 1>Vanny moved the ball between the twenties, but again twenty

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<v Speaker 1>points and the touchdown late was a gift. And that

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<v Speaker 1>again was because and Stoops admitted it was poor clock

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<v Speaker 1>management at the end of the first half.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, and I was a really reoccurring theme. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to be too negative. I will say one thing

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<v Speaker 3>about Stoops is that he doesn't throw a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>guys underneath the bus when it comes to press conferences.

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<v Speaker 3>He talked a lot about leaders and you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>they made some bad plays in this game, dan Key,

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<v Speaker 3>and he didn't say them by name.

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<v Speaker 2>He handed he said, our best player this.

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<v Speaker 3>Year is the most consistent player on and off the field,

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<v Speaker 3>things like that. But then he also said one guy

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<v Speaker 2>And that was a question about a specific player.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So, I mean I could sense the frustration in

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<v Speaker 3>stud It's not only did I have to dump him

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<v Speaker 3>during the interview with Tom after the game, but also

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<v Speaker 3>he got cut off tonight because he was, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>trying to get it all.

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<v Speaker 1>In with with coach.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously it's on his mind and and you know, kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like how we started the conversation. It's just such

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<v Speaker 3>a razor thin margin between you being the hero that

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<v Speaker 3>deserves a statue and the guy that might get run

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<v Speaker 3>out of town. It's unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it depends on which Twitter account you're.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just the type of you're working for. I still

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<v Speaker 2>think they're gonna win games where there may be an

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<v Speaker 2>underdog in these last six and they're gonna win games

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<v Speaker 2>where they're the favorite, I will.

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<v Speaker 1>Say, And and again Stoops himself kicked himself for and

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<v Speaker 1>he said trying to be aggressive, which I found interesting

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the late move to throw, throw a throw

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<v Speaker 1>and then have to punt, because he knew going in

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<v Speaker 1>that it was going to be a ball control, possession

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<v Speaker 1>kind of game. So do you run the ball, run

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<v Speaker 1>the clock, force Fandy to use time outs, or do

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<v Speaker 1>you throw the ball and if something goes wrong. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Vandy's got the opportunity. When he first got here twelve

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<v Speaker 1>years ago as a first year, second year, even into

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<v Speaker 1>his third year head coach, I thought he made mistakes

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<v Speaker 1>with clock management. I thought little by little he had

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<v Speaker 1>gotten much better at that. And that's why this one

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<v Speaker 1>kind of surprised me because he has talked at length

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<v Speaker 1>about the four minuted offense, winning the last four, winning

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<v Speaker 1>the first four, that kind of thing, and I always

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<v Speaker 1>said I felt like, well, clearly with his better teams,

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<v Speaker 1>they did a great job at that. So that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I was kind of shocked at the end of that

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<v Speaker 1>first half. And again, maybe Vandy settles for three, but

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky's defense makes a rare mistake. There's a guy wide open.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think he's it's in his head a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>It's in my head.

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<v Speaker 4>I know that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, you never really feel good about it going

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<v Speaker 2>into the middle eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they go down to Gainesville, and I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>amazing to me. I'm any Kentucky fans had that one

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<v Speaker 1>circled pre just because of the confidence when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to playing Florida and how poorly Florida had been playing

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<v Speaker 1>going in this year, and there have been signs of

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<v Speaker 1>life in Gatorland.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they played Look, they always they always played Tennessee. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's one of those things we all know that Kentucky

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<v Speaker 2>has played Tennessee in years they're much better than Tennessee

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<v Speaker 2>and not played well. It's just one of those things,

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<v Speaker 2>same thing that happens in that in that series. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think this is still a game Kentucky should win.

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<v Speaker 2>I really do when I I haven't watched Florida to

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<v Speaker 2>too closely, but they're they're bottom. I think they're ninety seventh.

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<v Speaker 2>I checked today in rushing defense.

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<v Speaker 1>No quarterbacks, there are no starting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they've been playing two quarterbacks. Now they have to

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<v Speaker 2>go to the freshman full time. Unfortunately, Graham Wortz towards

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<v Speaker 2>ACL their wide receivers have been in and out with injuries.

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<v Speaker 2>They're often the protection hasn't been good. Like this is

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<v Speaker 2>not a very good Florida team.

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<v Speaker 4>You have to be.

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<v Speaker 2>They're favored by three, you get three for being at home,

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<v Speaker 2>So it's basically a pick them game. Kentucky's played with

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<v Speaker 2>Florida really well. I think they're going to get up

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<v Speaker 2>for this game. They always seem to do so. And look,

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<v Speaker 2>I was saying it before the show. My prediction is

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<v Speaker 2>they win this game and they're gonna lose to Auburn

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<v Speaker 2>at home next Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>How about that?

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<v Speaker 2>As far as anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>You freeze.

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<v Speaker 3>Kroger Field, that's true, that's true. I mean it is

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<v Speaker 3>an advantage for Kentucky to be on the road or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they, I mean, if they think about this,

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<v Speaker 2>if they lose to Auburn at home, it would be

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<v Speaker 2>their first zero to four and sec play at home

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<v Speaker 2>since twenty thirteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yikes, that was not a great year.

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<v Speaker 4>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>When we come back, we'll talk about a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a happier subject. That is Kentucky basketball. It is

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<v Speaker 1>a statewide edition in a big Blue insider from Pikeville

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<v Speaker 1>to Paduca. It is the Big Blue insider Dick Gabriel,

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<v Speaker 1>Billy rutlives Aaron Gershawan and it is overlap time, this

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<v Speaker 1>time a week ago Pro Day and then of course

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<v Speaker 1>Friday was madness and a certain former coach showed up.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, let's talk about the floor.

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<v Speaker 2>That was pretty cool, very cool, very very cool. I

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<v Speaker 2>think the only time it had been used before was

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<v Speaker 2>the NBA All Star Game, so it was incredible. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean from all the I thought the coolest thing that

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<v Speaker 2>did the football field was cool when Stoops came out.

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<v Speaker 2>But the coolest thing was when and we'll get to

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<v Speaker 2>Patino in a second, but when when they had all

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<v Speaker 2>the ex players come out and they shifted the floor

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<v Speaker 2>from different generations in Kentucky basketball. I thought that was

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<v Speaker 2>a right.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish they would introduce the players. Yeah, that was.

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<v Speaker 2>Crazy to I mean, there were a lot, so itd

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<v Speaker 2>have taken time, but I think everyone in Rubbery would

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<v Speaker 2>have taken that five minutes to go through the list

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<v Speaker 2>of the sixty something.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you think you've been to several of those?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I purposely didn't go. I wanted to watch it

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<v Speaker 1>on TV because of the floor. Yeah, I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>see that's good point.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, to be honest with you, I stopped going because

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<v Speaker 2>there was nothing to cover the same thing everything. So

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<v Speaker 2>I went my freshman year as a student at UK

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<v Speaker 2>and then I think I covered one and that was it.

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<v Speaker 2>I just stopped going because it was like, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>we're not getting interviews which didn't happen this week, but

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<v Speaker 2>we know what's going to happen, we know the exact format,

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<v Speaker 2>what's there to go see. Sometimes I wouldn't even watch it,

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<v Speaker 2>to be honest with you, but this year, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I only I didn't really I saw the floor thing,

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<v Speaker 2>so I was like, okay, that'll be cool. But it

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<v Speaker 2>was Mark Pope's first one to see the differences, and

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<v Speaker 2>I just thought from the floor to I really thought

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<v Speaker 2>it was a really cool idea to have the players

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<v Speaker 2>come out from the crowd and interact with the crowd

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<v Speaker 2>that way.

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<v Speaker 1>Pope's in the cheapest of cheap seats. Absolutely was it

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<v Speaker 1>the worst seats and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>And a lot of the players were too, Like Trentonoah

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<v Speaker 2>being up in two forty probably watched games they're growing

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<v Speaker 2>up not you know, it's just really cool stuff. So

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<v Speaker 2>that from that whole aspect, I mean yeah, some of

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<v Speaker 2>the drill stuff got is boring and stale still, but

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<v Speaker 2>overall best madness in my time in Lex by a mile.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, besides Lamont Butler wrapping to a track that's right,

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<v Speaker 3>like all of them do.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it was the coaches entrances that did it

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<v Speaker 3>for me, not only Mark Pope at the top, but

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<v Speaker 3>Kenny Brooks. I mean, he's still walking that hallway trying

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<v Speaker 3>to get that was very big blue madness. I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>what are we doing at first? But it did kind

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<v Speaker 3>of I did kind of like it by the end

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<v Speaker 3>of it. Besides the TV broadcast being awful them cutting

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<v Speaker 3>off right before coach brook talks and you know, them

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<v Speaker 3>showing the shooter in the three point contest, but not

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<v Speaker 3>the bast it. There was a couple of times that

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<v Speaker 3>it was just a little puzzling.

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<v Speaker 1>Direct some directing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but so is the video? Is that is that

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<v Speaker 3>floor now? Kentucky's like, do they just have that permanently

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<v Speaker 3>or is that something they rented out? There is one

425
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<v Speaker 3>time thing.

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<v Speaker 2>For now, it's a one time thing. I don't know

427
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<v Speaker 2>exactly if they there is toxic for that to be

428
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<v Speaker 2>implemented permanently in the future. Or not at the moment.

429
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<v Speaker 1>Can you play a game on that service?

430
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<v Speaker 2>Apparently you can't. I mean they did at the NBA

431
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<v Speaker 2>All Star Game. So yeah, but I think there needs

432
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<v Speaker 2>to be I was gonna say there needs to be

433
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<v Speaker 2>some testing.

434
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<v Speaker 3>I asked Travis Perry about it on Friday because he

435
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<v Speaker 3>was at our remote and he said it was too slippery.

436
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<v Speaker 3>He's not going to jump. He's not going to even

437
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<v Speaker 3>try to jump.

438
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<v Speaker 4>Wow.

439
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<v Speaker 1>Smart.

440
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So that says a lot. So there's a lot

441
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<v Speaker 2>of work that needs.

442
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<v Speaker 1>All Right, Rick Potato shows up, how do we feel

443
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<v Speaker 1>about that?

444
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<v Speaker 2>I'll let Billy go first.

445
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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah. In fact, Billy is I think unique to

446
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<v Speaker 1>this situation because having worked in Louisville and now Lexing,

447
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<v Speaker 1>and he's a western Kentucky guy. That's so you really

448
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<v Speaker 1>don't have an emotional arrow in the.

449
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<v Speaker 3>Quiver, right, no allegiance, no emotional connection to the past

450
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<v Speaker 3>of ninety six championship teams. And maybe I was being

451
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<v Speaker 3>a little facetious show the pre show talk, but it

452
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<v Speaker 3>really was all about Rick Patino. And I do question

453
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<v Speaker 3>if he was actually invited by anybody at Kentucky to

454
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<v Speaker 3>come to this, because he did publicly say that he

455
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<v Speaker 3>called Mark Pope up and said I'm coming. And then

456
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<v Speaker 3>there was also an instance in which he said he

457
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<v Speaker 3>moved around the Saint John's practice schedule so he could

458
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<v Speaker 3>show up to Big Blue Madness the day before the

459
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<v Speaker 3>day he was supposed to be in town for Mark

460
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<v Speaker 3>Stoops and football. I think Patino saw Cow wasn't there anymore.

461
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<v Speaker 3>It's a place he's always yearned to get back to,

462
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<v Speaker 3>so he used it as an opportunity to get back

463
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<v Speaker 3>and receive the love of the people. I mean, who

464
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<v Speaker 3>would not want it more than self absorbed Rick Patino.

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<v Speaker 1>I refuse to believe that he just called Pope and

466
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<v Speaker 1>said I'm coming. I firmly believe that that came from

467
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<v Speaker 1>a conversation those two had. They've spoken more than once.

468
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<v Speaker 1>But Yeah, the time he was on the court was

469
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<v Speaker 1>all about him, But I don't think the fifty six

470
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<v Speaker 1>minutes leading up to that was all about Rick Patino.

471
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<v Speaker 3>Oh, we will remember this for a long time. Sure,

472
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<v Speaker 3>it's actually changed the way I think he had come out.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, here's the thing. I'd be willing to acquist

474
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<v Speaker 1>to all that if he had been out at the

475
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<v Speaker 1>very beginning and stood on the court the whole time.

476
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<v Speaker 2>Well, he can't do that.

477
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<v Speaker 1>No, But that's my point though over him all the

478
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<v Speaker 1>time he was out there, and you're right, he soaked

479
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<v Speaker 1>up some love. And how many people wondered would he

480
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<v Speaker 1>show A and two? Would he be boot? You know?

481
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<v Speaker 1>And but I didn't. Did you guys have people say

482
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<v Speaker 1>you think he's gonna get booed?

483
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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

484
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<v Speaker 3>It was a whole week at sports talk radio.

485
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<v Speaker 1>I had people just assume he'd be boot.

486
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I didn't. I didn't question.

487
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<v Speaker 1>To me, it would be like, we're on our best

488
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<v Speaker 1>behavior because coach Pope is here. You know, the.

489
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<v Speaker 2>Way that the crowd reacted up whenever he brought him

490
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<v Speaker 2>up at the press conference, I knew it wasn't going

491
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<v Speaker 2>to be boops.

492
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's probably true. And now the question is, does

493
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<v Speaker 1>he at some point make an appearance as Kelsey bring

494
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<v Speaker 1>him over to U of l uil Oh? So maybe never,

495
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<v Speaker 1>I think Louisville.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, look, this is a guy who spent

497
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<v Speaker 2>time at Louisville saying, man, I should never have left Kentucky,

498
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<v Speaker 2>and he said it several times.

499
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<v Speaker 3>So I don't think that one he said we and

500
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<v Speaker 3>they and he left compared to Kentucky Louisville this weekend.

501
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<v Speaker 2>Obviously, neither Chris Mack or Kenny Paynes had a good

502
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<v Speaker 2>tenure there, especially Pain. But Patina left that program in

503
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<v Speaker 2>a mess, and they're not gonna He didn't leave Kentucky

504
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<v Speaker 2>in a mess. He left them with a roster that

505
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<v Speaker 2>ended up championship.

506
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<v Speaker 1>One program he sued, the other he did not.

507
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm sure he holds a grudge forced down exactly.

508
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<v Speaker 2>So I think he'll retire a cat if you will.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Jeff Cory, you heard him once, you'll love

510
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<v Speaker 1>him again. Here all in the state wide BBI from

511
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<v Speaker 1>Pikeville to Paduka. It is the state wide edition of

512
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<v Speaker 1>the Big Blue Insider. Dick gabrielle erin Gershawn Billy Rudlet's

513
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<v Speaker 1>join on our celebrity hotline. You heard him earlier tonight

514
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<v Speaker 1>with Darren Hendrick playing every club in his bag, both

515
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<v Speaker 1>at the Keith Madison Golf Tournament today and on the

516
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<v Speaker 1>radio with Darren. But he promised me that he saved

517
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<v Speaker 1>some good stuff for us. Jeff Acoro of the UK

518
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<v Speaker 1>Sports Network And uh, I know you venagers pleaying with Darren,

519
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<v Speaker 1>but you've got something left.

520
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<v Speaker 4>Right, Yeah, I had to play it close to the

521
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<v Speaker 4>vest I mean, Joe and Kelly Craft. There's I couldn't

522
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<v Speaker 4>really get to upset so very nice. I couldn't. I

523
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<v Speaker 4>really couldn't get real, real angry. But I will tell you,

524
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<v Speaker 4>I will tell you, you know, playing in playing in

525
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<v Speaker 4>that event. There's some there's some former players. Joe Fettersfield

526
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<v Speaker 4>was there, Billy Ramsell, some other guys, and yeah, they

527
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<v Speaker 4>weren't happy.

528
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and none of them has ever committed a penalty, right, No,

529
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<v Speaker 1>you ever wonder what's here's a reugh. You gotta wonder though,

530
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<v Speaker 1>how many of those guys played in a game. There

531
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<v Speaker 1>was a festival of yellow flags like that one Saturday.

532
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<v Speaker 1>It's ridiculous.

533
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<v Speaker 4>Well, if you played ten years in the NFL, and

534
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<v Speaker 4>especially for the New Orleans Saints, I'm sure he probably

535
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<v Speaker 4>played those games, are you're right? I mean, Dick, you

536
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<v Speaker 4>and I and Todd we talked about it, especially in breaks, guys.

537
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<v Speaker 4>It's you know, you're taking one step forward, two steps

538
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<v Speaker 4>back every single drive. And to only have seven drives

539
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<v Speaker 4>in a game, that's remarkable.

540
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<v Speaker 1>And so did Vandy No, I mean yeah, yeah, uh,

541
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<v Speaker 1>and we expected that five.

542
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<v Speaker 4>Of those five of those you were scoring position. If

543
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<v Speaker 4>you only had what what they end up with? Thirteen points?

544
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<v Speaker 1>What did Yeah? What did you think of the way

545
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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky's defense played against a Vandy team has scored forty

546
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<v Speaker 1>against Alabama and had to work it got almost almost

547
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<v Speaker 1>got not a free one but a cheap one at

548
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<v Speaker 1>the end of the first half, and scored only twenty

549
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<v Speaker 1>against Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 4>Dick, you know what this reminds me of and all seriousness,

551
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<v Speaker 4>and I know I go back to when I played,

552
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<v Speaker 4>but this reminds me of a lot of games that

553
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<v Speaker 4>I played, you know, when we played with Jerry Clayburn,

554
00:25:12.160 --> 00:25:16.400
<v Speaker 4>because our offense wasn't you know, a dynamic offense. It

555
00:25:16.440 --> 00:25:18.599
<v Speaker 4>was we're running the football with four guys that ended

556
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<v Speaker 4>up in the NFL and another guy Blocket for him

557
00:25:22.079 --> 00:25:24.319
<v Speaker 4>that's in the Hall of Fame. You know, it's we're

558
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<v Speaker 4>running the football. And that's what he said the first

559
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<v Speaker 4>day Jerry Claybor took the job. He too, we don't

560
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<v Speaker 4>run the football, boy. Oh yeah, and we didn't score.

561
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<v Speaker 4>I mean our games were seventeen tens from twenty to seventeen.

562
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<v Speaker 4>That was every game we played. And I just thought

563
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<v Speaker 4>our defense was fantastic. I mean, they played really well.

564
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<v Speaker 4>You know.

565
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<v Speaker 3>So inversely, what's been going on with the offense, Jeff,

566
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<v Speaker 3>I mean, is there anything to buy weeks? Throwing off

567
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<v Speaker 3>your mentality of you just came off a big win

568
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<v Speaker 3>against Old Miss, now you have an entire week off.

569
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<v Speaker 3>Is there anything to that or is it there's twelve

570
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<v Speaker 3>games you should be able to get up for an

571
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<v Speaker 3>SEC game.

572
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<v Speaker 4>You know. You know, it's interesting real you said that

573
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<v Speaker 4>because after the game, I think I told I don't

574
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<v Speaker 4>remember if it was when you and I were talking,

575
00:26:09.839 --> 00:26:12.720
<v Speaker 4>or was when Tom and I were talking, when you

576
00:26:12.720 --> 00:26:15.480
<v Speaker 4>were getting ready, Dick, I prefer not to have a

577
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<v Speaker 4>bye week, especially coming off a big win, because you're

578
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<v Speaker 4>hyped up, You're amped up. I want to get back

579
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<v Speaker 4>out there, right, I mean, yeah, Look at Vanderbilt. They

580
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<v Speaker 4>had the biggest win in the history of their football program,

581
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<v Speaker 4>the biggest win. They'd never beaten the number one before,

582
00:26:32.839 --> 00:26:36.359
<v Speaker 4>and to beat them as emphatically as they did and

583
00:26:36.359 --> 00:26:39.880
<v Speaker 4>score forty points, they couldn't wait to get the Lexington. Yeah,

584
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<v Speaker 4>you know, And they played that way. And even though

585
00:26:44.839 --> 00:26:47.960
<v Speaker 4>they scored forty against Alabama and were as high as

586
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<v Speaker 4>they could be, and Kentucky's offense had so many penalties

587
00:26:53.440 --> 00:26:55.799
<v Speaker 4>it was still a one possession game at the end.

588
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<v Speaker 4>So that tells you somebody's doing something pretty good. And

589
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<v Speaker 4>I think it's the deep they were. I'll tell you

590
00:27:02.400 --> 00:27:05.440
<v Speaker 4>what the most valuable coach and it's and it's not

591
00:27:05.559 --> 00:27:09.839
<v Speaker 4>even close. It's not even close as Brad White. He's

592
00:27:09.880 --> 00:27:11.000
<v Speaker 4>done a phenomenal job.

593
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<v Speaker 2>Jeff Kentucky's two and ten in their last twelve home games.

594
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<v Speaker 2>They're oh and six in their last six. Two losses

595
00:27:17.279 --> 00:27:20.160
<v Speaker 2>to Vandy two to South Carolina included that twelve. Yet

596
00:27:20.200 --> 00:27:22.200
<v Speaker 2>they're six and four in SEC road games in the

597
00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:25.400
<v Speaker 2>same span. What is why can't this team win at Krogerfield?

598
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<v Speaker 4>You know, it's interesting. Aaron he he Mark asked the

599
00:27:29.519 --> 00:27:32.279
<v Speaker 4>same question to the players. What do we need to

600
00:27:32.319 --> 00:27:35.759
<v Speaker 4>do differently? What? What? What is it? Is it your

601
00:27:35.799 --> 00:27:37.960
<v Speaker 4>family being around? Is it you being around?

602
00:27:38.319 --> 00:27:38.559
<v Speaker 3>You know?

603
00:27:38.599 --> 00:27:41.039
<v Speaker 4>The campus? Is it when you go on the road trip?

604
00:27:41.079 --> 00:27:43.400
<v Speaker 4>There's only one real thing to worry about, and that's

605
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<v Speaker 4>that's basically football. I don't know, I don't have the

606
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<v Speaker 4>answer for that. It's it's crazy. You look at how

607
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<v Speaker 4>well and this goes back years. I mean, look how

608
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<v Speaker 4>well they played the last time Kentucky was at Old miss.

609
00:27:55.559 --> 00:27:58.279
<v Speaker 4>You know, they they just play really well. Look at

610
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<v Speaker 4>look at what they did to Vanderbilt last year. Could

611
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<v Speaker 4>have won that game fifty to nothing, right, I mean,

612
00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:06.319
<v Speaker 4>vandibul could move the football and Kentucky even had a

613
00:28:06.359 --> 00:28:09.559
<v Speaker 4>couple of stutters in offense, and still it was an

614
00:28:09.680 --> 00:28:12.880
<v Speaker 4>easy win. You know, I just I don't understand it.

615
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<v Speaker 1>Jeff, me, let me throw something at you. I kind

616
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<v Speaker 1>of thought about this about midway through the first half

617
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<v Speaker 1>when they were doing the silly penalties, and I kind

618
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<v Speaker 1>of forgot to bring it up in the post game

619
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<v Speaker 1>because there was just so much the process. But I

620
00:28:27.440 --> 00:28:32.359
<v Speaker 1>started to wonder were they a little too amped up?

621
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<v Speaker 1>Because Stoops later said they played hard, but I felt

622
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<v Speaker 1>like the sloppiness might have come again again to Billy's point,

623
00:28:41.759 --> 00:28:46.119
<v Speaker 1>from not being sharp thanks to that bye week, but

624
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<v Speaker 1>and to your point again, you know you're rolling, you're focused,

625
00:28:50.640 --> 00:28:54.160
<v Speaker 1>h you're polished. I felt like that polish wasn't there

626
00:28:54.680 --> 00:28:59.839
<v Speaker 1>perhaps because of that, and therefore they weren't clicking as

627
00:28:59.880 --> 00:29:02.720
<v Speaker 1>he unit, especially in the old line. You know, you

628
00:29:02.759 --> 00:29:05.400
<v Speaker 1>had pre snap penalties and holding and you know what

629
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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. I know it sounds weird to say that

630
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<v Speaker 1>after a game. But it's not that he didn't play hard.

631
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<v Speaker 1>Subtract the penalties. We were talking about this before he

632
00:29:13.599 --> 00:29:16.480
<v Speaker 1>came on, and the offense looked pretty good. But every

633
00:29:16.480 --> 00:29:20.160
<v Speaker 1>time he did something great, they do something stupid. So

634
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<v Speaker 1>does that mean you see where I'm going with that.

635
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<v Speaker 4>I understand what you're saying, but I think that you

636
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<v Speaker 4>said the last the last word you said, did something stupid. Yeah,

637
00:29:31.039 --> 00:29:34.400
<v Speaker 4>I mean, look, Dave Key is a great is a

638
00:29:34.440 --> 00:29:37.799
<v Speaker 4>great ballplayer, right, yep. He can't have that penalty. You

639
00:29:38.079 --> 00:29:42.759
<v Speaker 4>can't do that. Barryon Brown is Barrion Brown is possibly

640
00:29:42.799 --> 00:29:45.079
<v Speaker 4>going to be in the NFL next year. Right. You

641
00:29:45.200 --> 00:29:48.240
<v Speaker 4>can't on the first play of the game get up

642
00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:52.200
<v Speaker 4>and try to, you know, man up against the entire defense.

643
00:29:52.279 --> 00:29:54.680
<v Speaker 4>You just can't do that, you know what I mean,

644
00:29:55.720 --> 00:29:57.920
<v Speaker 4>You can't do that. You just have to have your

645
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<v Speaker 4>head about yourself. Why is it? Why do you have

646
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<v Speaker 4>to prove how mainly you are by by you know,

647
00:30:06.359 --> 00:30:08.079
<v Speaker 4>you know, because he's from Nashville.

648
00:30:09.119 --> 00:30:12.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but.

649
00:30:13.839 --> 00:30:17.599
<v Speaker 4>You know, catch seven footballs and then say look what

650
00:30:17.640 --> 00:30:18.359
<v Speaker 4>I did? You know?

651
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Jeff, when I was in high school, I got

652
00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:25.440
<v Speaker 3>the yips and I forgot how to putt completely not

653
00:30:25.480 --> 00:30:27.559
<v Speaker 3>even I couldn't make a putt. I couldn't even make

654
00:30:27.559 --> 00:30:28.319
<v Speaker 3>the putting stroke.

655
00:30:28.400 --> 00:30:28.880
<v Speaker 1>It was bad.

656
00:30:29.559 --> 00:30:31.880
<v Speaker 3>That's what I'll attribute to my bad golf season that year.

657
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<v Speaker 3>But I want to ask you, Jeff, do you think

658
00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:35.440
<v Speaker 3>Mark Students has the yips when it comes to the

659
00:30:35.440 --> 00:30:38.440
<v Speaker 3>middle eight. I feel like whatever happens the opposite is

660
00:30:38.440 --> 00:30:39.279
<v Speaker 3>what he should have done.

661
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<v Speaker 4>George, you know, it's an interesting question. I really don't

662
00:30:46.000 --> 00:30:51.880
<v Speaker 4>know how to answer that. I just I don't know, man,

663
00:30:51.240 --> 00:30:55.039
<v Speaker 4>I I can't answer that question. I think that I

664
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<v Speaker 4>think Mark's a better coach than what we've seen at times,

665
00:30:58.079 --> 00:31:01.559
<v Speaker 4>you know, But I don't. I don't. I don't know

666
00:31:01.559 --> 00:31:03.839
<v Speaker 4>how to answer that. I I don't know if it's

667
00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:06.440
<v Speaker 4>the middle eight. It just seems that the middle eight

668
00:31:06.759 --> 00:31:09.799
<v Speaker 4>seemed to be games that are are winnable games that

669
00:31:09.839 --> 00:31:12.839
<v Speaker 4>they lose, right, I mean you look at these these

670
00:31:12.839 --> 00:31:15.160
<v Speaker 4>three games, and that when I say these three games,

671
00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:18.799
<v Speaker 4>I mean Vanderbilt, Florida Auburn. There are three games that

672
00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:21.359
<v Speaker 4>I think would would We're going to turn the season

673
00:31:21.400 --> 00:31:24.359
<v Speaker 4>for him, right, they win those three games, then they

674
00:31:24.400 --> 00:31:27.319
<v Speaker 4>got a possibility of going, you know, winning eight or

675
00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:31.680
<v Speaker 4>maybe even nine games. Now you've already lost one of those,

676
00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:35.039
<v Speaker 4>plus you lost to South Carolina. It's going to be

677
00:31:35.079 --> 00:31:36.720
<v Speaker 4>hard to get the six wins now.

678
00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:40.799
<v Speaker 2>But they're gonna they'll win on the road because what

679
00:31:40.880 --> 00:31:44.640
<v Speaker 2>they always you can't count on that. I'm at text

680
00:31:44.720 --> 00:31:48.240
<v Speaker 2>to your point, but to your pointer, And they're going

681
00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:50.119
<v Speaker 2>to have to start winning at home. Yeah, they have to,

682
00:31:50.200 --> 00:31:52.640
<v Speaker 2>and though they only won sec opportunity left to do so.

683
00:31:52.920 --> 00:31:55.279
<v Speaker 2>But Jeff, what do you make of the whole situation

684
00:31:55.400 --> 00:31:58.079
<v Speaker 2>with Jamry and Wilcox? Obviously, every time he touched the ball,

685
00:31:58.200 --> 00:32:00.759
<v Speaker 2>he seems like an explosive play average I think eleven

686
00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:03.680
<v Speaker 2>and a half yards per carrying this game, but apparently

687
00:32:03.720 --> 00:32:06.319
<v Speaker 2>you can't tie his shots. So what do you make

688
00:32:06.400 --> 00:32:07.440
<v Speaker 2>of the whole ordeal?

689
00:32:08.599 --> 00:32:12.079
<v Speaker 4>Crazy, isn't it. I just think that I think you

690
00:32:12.119 --> 00:32:13.759
<v Speaker 4>have to look a little bit deeper than that air

691
00:32:13.759 --> 00:32:15.039
<v Speaker 4>and I think you have to look at the fact

692
00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:17.359
<v Speaker 4>that it's almost like last season, what do they have

693
00:32:17.440 --> 00:32:20.759
<v Speaker 4>fifty two plays something like that? Yeah?

694
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<v Speaker 2>Have something?

695
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah too, they only had fifty Yeah, they only had

696
00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:27.400
<v Speaker 4>fifty some uplates because you only had That's that's why.

697
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<v Speaker 4>Because look, and I don't know if nil is but look, okay,

698
00:32:36.599 --> 00:32:39.920
<v Speaker 4>Demi's you're starting running back and he and look he runs, well,

699
00:32:40.400 --> 00:32:42.599
<v Speaker 4>he does a nice job blitz pick up and things

700
00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:46.519
<v Speaker 4>like that. Right, So that's the reason he's your starter. Okay,

701
00:32:46.559 --> 00:32:48.200
<v Speaker 4>so he's probably going to get his hands on the

702
00:32:48.200 --> 00:32:50.799
<v Speaker 4>ball ten or twelve times. Okay, So now that fifty

703
00:32:50.799 --> 00:32:53.720
<v Speaker 4>two is down to forty. Right, and then you say, okay,

704
00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:55.799
<v Speaker 4>we got to get the ball to Dame te five

705
00:32:55.880 --> 00:32:57.960
<v Speaker 4>or six times a game, and we got to get

706
00:32:57.960 --> 00:32:59.759
<v Speaker 4>the ball to barry On five or six times a

707
00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:03.359
<v Speaker 4>game because there's such you know, playmakers. Now you're down

708
00:33:03.400 --> 00:33:07.680
<v Speaker 4>to thirty. You see what I'm saying, there's not enough

709
00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:10.279
<v Speaker 4>snaps in a game when you only have fifty some

710
00:33:10.400 --> 00:33:12.680
<v Speaker 4>on play. Well, yeah, if you're up in the seventies,

711
00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:16.119
<v Speaker 4>if you're up in the seventies, now everybody gets to eat.

712
00:33:16.279 --> 00:33:19.359
<v Speaker 2>That's what you expect in that game of van they're

713
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<v Speaker 2>averaging close to seventies.

714
00:33:20.920 --> 00:33:23.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well he's gotten the ball more.

715
00:33:24.359 --> 00:33:27.759
<v Speaker 2>But yes, and now Mark Stuke said on the show

716
00:33:27.799 --> 00:33:29.839
<v Speaker 2>today thinks they have a really good shot of getting

717
00:33:29.839 --> 00:33:32.400
<v Speaker 2>Trip chain him back too, So it could complicate that

718
00:33:32.440 --> 00:33:32.960
<v Speaker 2>even further.

719
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<v Speaker 4>Mm hmm. Yeah, it's gonna be really interesting in the

720
00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:40.200
<v Speaker 4>next couple of weeks to see how if they want

721
00:33:40.240 --> 00:33:43.039
<v Speaker 4>to go to the other thing that when you when

722
00:33:43.079 --> 00:33:45.799
<v Speaker 4>you watch the game, and I don't know, Aaron, if

723
00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:49.079
<v Speaker 4>you feel the same way and Billions, there was no

724
00:33:49.319 --> 00:33:54.000
<v Speaker 4>rhythm at all for either either team offense, no one right.

725
00:33:53.920 --> 00:33:57.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but Kentucky was was self inflicted.

726
00:33:58.200 --> 00:34:01.839
<v Speaker 4>I felt yes, And I know, Look, I know what

727
00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:05.240
<v Speaker 4>his thinking is because you have to you have to

728
00:34:05.319 --> 00:34:10.039
<v Speaker 4>understand Soups first. He's defense first, right, I mean, he's

729
00:34:10.079 --> 00:34:14.519
<v Speaker 4>a defensive coach. So his whole mindset is let's keep

730
00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:18.199
<v Speaker 4>the ball away from Vandy's offense. But look, he has

731
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<v Speaker 4>to trust his defense. His defense is really good, man.

732
00:34:23.360 --> 00:34:25.639
<v Speaker 4>You know the Look what they did to Georgia, Look

733
00:34:25.639 --> 00:34:27.840
<v Speaker 4>what they did to Ole Miss and really look what

734
00:34:27.880 --> 00:34:34.840
<v Speaker 4>they did to Vanderbilt. J Jeff, Yeah, that that that

735
00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:37.320
<v Speaker 4>was huge because their first downs were awesome. They were

736
00:34:37.400 --> 00:34:39.400
<v Speaker 4>second and short all the time. But what I'm getting

737
00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:42.079
<v Speaker 4>at is trust your defense a little bit and let

738
00:34:42.119 --> 00:34:44.880
<v Speaker 4>that offense. Let just let it go a little bit more.

739
00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:49.119
<v Speaker 3>I know, uh Stoops didn't allude to a certain player,

740
00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:51.400
<v Speaker 3>but he did say it was it is more difficult

741
00:34:51.519 --> 00:34:54.800
<v Speaker 3>to instill discipline in the NIL era. Would you agree

742
00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:55.039
<v Speaker 3>with that?

743
00:34:55.159 --> 00:34:59.440
<v Speaker 4>Jeff Yeah, oh yeah, oh yes, yeah, And that's what

744
00:34:59.480 --> 00:35:01.760
<v Speaker 4>I was getting before. And I said, you got to

745
00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:05.000
<v Speaker 4>keep people happy, you know what I mean, because they're saying, hey,

746
00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:07.599
<v Speaker 4>if I don't get six touches, then I'm not going

747
00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:10.079
<v Speaker 4>to get what I think I'm worth from this guy

748
00:35:10.280 --> 00:35:12.800
<v Speaker 4>or this place or this place, you know, and everybody

749
00:35:13.039 --> 00:35:16.719
<v Speaker 4>worrying about the next page exactly. That's what Nick Saban said.

750
00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:22.079
<v Speaker 4>It's not about the problem with Ni l Is. It's

751
00:35:22.199 --> 00:35:24.559
<v Speaker 4>not about what Mark Cope says the front of the

752
00:35:24.639 --> 00:35:27.400
<v Speaker 4>jersey anymore. It's what's on the back of the jersey.

753
00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:31.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a few more minutes before we turn you loose,

754
00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:35.199
<v Speaker 1>I need to ask your opinion. We've already discussed the

755
00:35:35.360 --> 00:35:39.119
<v Speaker 1>return of Rick Patino. Billy found it terribly distasteful. He

756
00:35:39.199 --> 00:35:41.079
<v Speaker 1>hates Rick Patino with every fiber.

757
00:35:40.960 --> 00:35:44.599
<v Speaker 3>Was being exactly, but it was about him a lot.

758
00:35:44.960 --> 00:35:47.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the last four and a half minutes of madness,

759
00:35:47.800 --> 00:35:50.159
<v Speaker 1>we're all about Rick Patino, and that's that didn't set

760
00:35:50.199 --> 00:35:52.280
<v Speaker 1>well with mister Rutledge. Your thoughts.

761
00:35:54.360 --> 00:35:59.079
<v Speaker 4>I thought it was very interesting. I was wondering how

762
00:35:59.119 --> 00:36:02.159
<v Speaker 4>the crowd was going to react when he walked into

763
00:36:02.199 --> 00:36:04.639
<v Speaker 4>the building because the last time he walked into that

764
00:36:04.719 --> 00:36:09.360
<v Speaker 4>building as a coach at a different school. People didn't

765
00:36:09.440 --> 00:36:13.440
<v Speaker 4>like him too much in Lexington, but I think that

766
00:36:13.519 --> 00:36:20.079
<v Speaker 4>the return. Rick has always said when he left Boston,

767
00:36:20.159 --> 00:36:23.320
<v Speaker 4>had you know he he had looked. I don't care

768
00:36:23.360 --> 00:36:27.320
<v Speaker 4>what anybody says, Kentucky's the greatest job in basketball. With Kentucky,

769
00:36:27.320 --> 00:36:29.760
<v Speaker 4>fans will say, well, guess what, it's not. He got

770
00:36:29.760 --> 00:36:34.920
<v Speaker 4>a percentage of the Boston Celtics. Yeah you're not. No

771
00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:38.519
<v Speaker 4>one is turning that down people. But he said it's

772
00:36:38.559 --> 00:36:43.079
<v Speaker 4>the greatest job. It was camelot. Okay, he leaves Boston,

773
00:36:43.719 --> 00:36:46.480
<v Speaker 4>he wants to coach, right, he wants to coach again.

774
00:36:46.599 --> 00:36:49.599
<v Speaker 4>He was still young at that time. Louisville caught him

775
00:36:49.599 --> 00:36:52.039
<v Speaker 4>and said made a hell of an offer. He had

776
00:36:52.079 --> 00:36:55.360
<v Speaker 4>to take the Louisville job. He's back in Kentucky. He thought,

777
00:36:55.360 --> 00:36:59.360
<v Speaker 4>you know what, I've got friends, I'm in horse country.

778
00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:02.679
<v Speaker 4>He did a great chop at Louisville. You can't deny that.

779
00:37:03.599 --> 00:37:06.000
<v Speaker 1>If only he'd won a championship.

780
00:37:06.239 --> 00:37:09.840
<v Speaker 4>He bleeds flu I mean when he walked out in

781
00:37:09.880 --> 00:37:12.760
<v Speaker 4>the Kentucky and look, I thought it was really cool

782
00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:16.639
<v Speaker 4>that instead of having NBA players there, And I'm not

783
00:37:16.719 --> 00:37:20.840
<v Speaker 4>knocking what Calip Perry did. Drake wasn't there. It was

784
00:37:21.480 --> 00:37:26.119
<v Speaker 4>Pope's teammates. It was the Kyle Macy's and Jim Andrews's

785
00:37:26.159 --> 00:37:31.280
<v Speaker 4>and Kenny Walker's and those guys. It was Kentucky basketball.

786
00:37:31.320 --> 00:37:33.199
<v Speaker 4>It's the same thing he did when he walked into

787
00:37:33.239 --> 00:37:37.719
<v Speaker 4>the practice at the Joe Craft Center said, why are

788
00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:40.559
<v Speaker 4>all these NBA guys up here? I want the banners.

789
00:37:40.760 --> 00:37:44.000
<v Speaker 4>It's banner week, you know what. That's what people from

790
00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:47.000
<v Speaker 4>Paduca to Pike full Covington, de corbyin want to hear.

791
00:37:47.559 --> 00:37:51.280
<v Speaker 4>They want to hear about Kentucky winning championships. But they

792
00:37:51.320 --> 00:37:53.519
<v Speaker 4>also like Kentucky sending guys of the NBA.

793
00:37:53.719 --> 00:37:56.880
<v Speaker 1>But they also liked bragging about having the best recruiting

794
00:37:56.920 --> 00:38:00.639
<v Speaker 1>class in America. Remember when they finished one year, Oh

795
00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:02.840
<v Speaker 1>my god, they were like third or fifth or something.

796
00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:06.760
<v Speaker 1>What's wrong with our recruiting? Well, they weren't getting enough

797
00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:12.400
<v Speaker 1>of those guys who are the potential lottery picks, you know.

798
00:38:12.599 --> 00:38:14.320
<v Speaker 1>And and Caliperry, of course, I think.

799
00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:16.320
<v Speaker 4>Championships.

800
00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:20.280
<v Speaker 1>Well that's that's my point, is that they liked it

801
00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:22.840
<v Speaker 1>when it was working for the first five or six years,

802
00:38:23.519 --> 00:38:28.239
<v Speaker 1>and then unfortunate injuries or whatever, COVID whatever. A lot

803
00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:31.679
<v Speaker 1>of circumstance piled up and it all fell apart. Not

804
00:38:31.800 --> 00:38:34.119
<v Speaker 1>that it was a house of cards or anything, but

805
00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:38.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm just curiously how Mark Pope incorporates because he's gonna

806
00:38:38.280 --> 00:38:41.119
<v Speaker 1>have to get and he's getting them already, you know,

807
00:38:41.280 --> 00:38:44.000
<v Speaker 1>with the Alakai Moreno and the other kid. Who's the

808
00:38:44.039 --> 00:38:48.159
<v Speaker 1>other kid they've got Jess Johnson, Jasper Johnson. Yeah.

809
00:38:48.320 --> 00:38:51.159
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. But we remember when Rick was there, he would

810
00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:54.920
<v Speaker 4>bring in one or two great players and then the

811
00:38:54.920 --> 00:38:59.000
<v Speaker 4>other guys are role players, right, I mean this one

812
00:38:59.639 --> 00:39:03.199
<v Speaker 4>he had Mercer. Those were great guys, but the rest

813
00:39:03.199 --> 00:39:07.599
<v Speaker 4>of the guys were you know they that's right, you know,

814
00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:11.480
<v Speaker 4>you filled roles and everybody knows what their role is.

815
00:39:11.519 --> 00:39:13.400
<v Speaker 4>And here's you got fourteen new players. I think I

816
00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:14.119
<v Speaker 4>think it's awesome.

817
00:39:16.039 --> 00:39:18.559
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be fun. Jeff piicorl listen for him on

818
00:39:18.559 --> 00:39:22.360
<v Speaker 1>the UK Radio Network, watching him on WTVQ channel thirty

819
00:39:22.360 --> 00:39:24.880
<v Speaker 1>six here in Lexington. Thank you, brother, We'll see you

820
00:39:24.920 --> 00:39:25.639
<v Speaker 1>in Gainesville.

821
00:39:26.639 --> 00:39:28.079
<v Speaker 4>Thanks boys, have a great day, all.

822
00:39:28.079 --> 00:39:30.679
<v Speaker 1>Righty, I come back with more of the Big Blue

823
00:39:30.679 --> 00:39:33.800
<v Speaker 1>and cider and just a few Aaron's beloved Yankees are ahead,

824
00:39:34.400 --> 00:39:37.679
<v Speaker 1>Jets are leading the Bills. I need that Jefs defense

825
00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:38.440
<v Speaker 1>to do well.

826
00:39:38.639 --> 00:39:39.159
<v Speaker 2>Go Buffalo.

827
00:39:39.239 --> 00:39:41.320
<v Speaker 1>That's all I can say. We're back in a minute

828
00:39:41.400 --> 00:39:45.119
<v Speaker 1>here on the state wide BBI. Thanks again to Jeff Pricoury.

829
00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:48.760
<v Speaker 1>We let him go before asking him about as I

830
00:39:48.800 --> 00:39:51.280
<v Speaker 1>forgot his beloved Buckeyes. He grew up in Oio State

831
00:39:51.320 --> 00:39:53.400
<v Speaker 1>fan becaus his dad played baseball there, and I get that.

832
00:39:53.480 --> 00:39:56.920
<v Speaker 1>I think they still have season tickets in the family.

833
00:39:57.000 --> 00:40:00.559
<v Speaker 1>But I wisely predicted on more than one media out

834
00:40:00.599 --> 00:40:04.480
<v Speaker 1>let the Ohio State would destroy Oregon, which was bad

835
00:40:04.559 --> 00:40:07.880
<v Speaker 1>karma for me because A. My cousins have a ton

836
00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:11.199
<v Speaker 1>of cousins who grew up and live around the Portland area.

837
00:40:11.199 --> 00:40:13.679
<v Speaker 1>They're all Ducks fans and b what's the name of

838
00:40:13.719 --> 00:40:19.000
<v Speaker 1>the Oregon quarterback? Uh? Exactly right? How stupid BG? That's

839
00:40:19.119 --> 00:40:19.800
<v Speaker 1>exactly right?

840
00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:20.480
<v Speaker 4>Uh?

841
00:40:20.880 --> 00:40:22.760
<v Speaker 1>Man, What a wild finish?

842
00:40:23.039 --> 00:40:25.000
<v Speaker 2>Did Will Howard not know? There was no time on

843
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<v Speaker 2>the clock to slide?

844
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<v Speaker 1>But not only that, but twelve men on the field.

845
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and twelve they let that go because it's only

846
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<v Speaker 3>a five yard Well, Oregon does that on purpose because

847
00:40:34.519 --> 00:40:35.960
<v Speaker 3>it's only a five yard penalty?

848
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<v Speaker 2>Smart?

849
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<v Speaker 3>And then you could just Ryan, you can run more clock.

850
00:40:38.639 --> 00:40:41.000
<v Speaker 3>You can run more clock with ten seconds left. And then,

851
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<v Speaker 3>like you said, Will Howard, what are you doing so

852
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<v Speaker 3>much for?

853
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<v Speaker 4>That?

854
00:40:44.440 --> 00:40:46.639
<v Speaker 3>Was it twenty five million dollars roster?

855
00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:47.039
<v Speaker 4>Aaron?

856
00:40:47.119 --> 00:40:48.599
<v Speaker 3>Is that what they've been calling Ohio State?

857
00:40:49.639 --> 00:40:51.599
<v Speaker 2>I mean just a running backs alone and then the

858
00:40:51.639 --> 00:40:54.760
<v Speaker 2>safety Caleb Downs and quin Shawn Jenkins cost him like

859
00:40:54.760 --> 00:40:55.920
<v Speaker 2>eight mil together apparently.

860
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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's just a classic Big ten matchup Oregon, Ohiose.

861
00:40:58.960 --> 00:41:03.119
<v Speaker 2>States in proximity and everything. No Oregon, I mean there

862
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<v Speaker 2>was I think they played a game in Columbus a

863
00:41:06.039 --> 00:41:07.840
<v Speaker 2>couple of years ago, and I think Oregon one with

864
00:41:07.840 --> 00:41:10.599
<v Speaker 2>a backup quarterback, So maybe maybe they just have their

865
00:41:10.719 --> 00:41:11.320
<v Speaker 2>number up there.

866
00:41:11.400 --> 00:41:13.400
<v Speaker 3>Oregon pulled off the on side kick I would do

867
00:41:13.440 --> 00:41:17.800
<v Speaker 3>every game though, Oh my god, just kick it right

868
00:41:19.119 --> 00:41:20.760
<v Speaker 3>and it bounces back. I mean, you're not gonna get

869
00:41:20.760 --> 00:41:22.559
<v Speaker 3>all of them, but you might get one a game.

870
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:23.840
<v Speaker 1>Why the guy jump?

871
00:41:24.719 --> 00:41:27.440
<v Speaker 3>I mean, if that thing is getting fired right at you,

872
00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:28.440
<v Speaker 3>you might do the same thing.

873
00:41:28.880 --> 00:41:30.239
<v Speaker 1>But isn't there why he's out there?

874
00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:32.920
<v Speaker 3>What they're to block?

875
00:41:33.280 --> 00:41:33.559
<v Speaker 1>Right?

876
00:41:33.760 --> 00:41:35.920
<v Speaker 3>If you're if you're on the front, you're on the

877
00:41:35.960 --> 00:41:39.000
<v Speaker 3>hands team. If you're on the return team. Yeah, for

878
00:41:39.039 --> 00:41:41.320
<v Speaker 3>the most part. Hand Yeah, but if.

879
00:41:41.280 --> 00:41:44.199
<v Speaker 1>You're on the hands team, everybody up front is there

880
00:41:44.239 --> 00:41:46.239
<v Speaker 1>because they can recover or catch or whatever.

881
00:41:46.920 --> 00:41:49.440
<v Speaker 3>In theory, I guess for a surprise on side if

882
00:41:49.440 --> 00:41:51.840
<v Speaker 3>that's the case, or but yeah, he just drilled it

883
00:41:51.880 --> 00:41:54.800
<v Speaker 3>right at him, and then an Oregon receiver was ejected

884
00:41:54.880 --> 00:41:58.199
<v Speaker 3>for spitting on another player. That's the one thing that

885
00:41:58.239 --> 00:42:00.760
<v Speaker 3>would get me fired up, Dick, if you're talking about

886
00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:04.039
<v Speaker 3>a fight outside of the studio. Yeah, somebody spits on

887
00:42:04.119 --> 00:42:04.639
<v Speaker 3>me like that.

888
00:42:05.039 --> 00:42:08.400
<v Speaker 1>Man. A million years ago, a million years ago. My

889
00:42:08.599 --> 00:42:13.719
<v Speaker 1>junior year in high school, uh, Trinity's basketball team was okay,

890
00:42:13.840 --> 00:42:16.159
<v Speaker 1>wasn't great. Our senior my senior year, the team was

891
00:42:16.239 --> 00:42:18.719
<v Speaker 1>really really good and blew the first district game, so

892
00:42:18.760 --> 00:42:21.239
<v Speaker 1>did Niven get Sweet sixteen. But anyhow, we had one

893
00:42:21.320 --> 00:42:24.880
<v Speaker 1>really good shooter and we were playing flage A before

894
00:42:24.920 --> 00:42:28.559
<v Speaker 1>they went out of business, and one of their bench

895
00:42:28.599 --> 00:42:32.480
<v Speaker 1>players was their quarterback who was a good quarterback and

896
00:42:32.519 --> 00:42:35.599
<v Speaker 1>a strong, muscular guy, not a great, you know, basketball player,

897
00:42:35.880 --> 00:42:38.400
<v Speaker 1>but they put him in to start a fight with

898
00:42:38.440 --> 00:42:40.960
<v Speaker 1>our best guy and get him kicked out of the game.

899
00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:43.159
<v Speaker 1>And that's how he did it, and he got him

900
00:42:43.199 --> 00:42:46.639
<v Speaker 1>kicked out on him. Yeah, and then you know Rick

901
00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:49.280
<v Speaker 1>Texas swing and they knew the quarterback would handle himself

902
00:42:49.280 --> 00:42:51.000
<v Speaker 1>in a fight. It was a heck of a fight,

903
00:42:51.920 --> 00:42:54.000
<v Speaker 1>not just one of these pushing things hold me back,

904
00:42:54.039 --> 00:42:56.119
<v Speaker 1>you know. Yeah, and got our I think we may

905
00:42:56.159 --> 00:42:59.239
<v Speaker 1>have still won, but they sent down. They set that

906
00:42:59.280 --> 00:43:01.239
<v Speaker 1>guy in to get him kicked out of the game,

907
00:43:01.239 --> 00:43:02.079
<v Speaker 1>and that's how he did it.

908
00:43:02.159 --> 00:43:04.719
<v Speaker 3>That's that's amazing. I've had that thought before too. Why

909
00:43:04.760 --> 00:43:07.679
<v Speaker 3>not say a backup player to go injure Aaron Rodgers

910
00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:08.559
<v Speaker 3>or get him in a fight.

911
00:43:08.800 --> 00:43:10.639
<v Speaker 1>I thought you were about one of your golf matches.

912
00:43:10.880 --> 00:43:12.800
<v Speaker 3>No, I'm serious about those yips though. I mean my

913
00:43:12.840 --> 00:43:14.920
<v Speaker 3>senior year of high school, I just forgot how to

914
00:43:14.920 --> 00:43:18.400
<v Speaker 3>play the sport. Like, yeah, I got new irons so

915
00:43:18.440 --> 00:43:21.199
<v Speaker 3>I couldn't hit those, and then I just I just lost.

916
00:43:21.239 --> 00:43:24.639
<v Speaker 3>So just putting, Uh, putting was the bad part. But

917
00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:25.920
<v Speaker 3>like just my entire game.

918
00:43:26.199 --> 00:43:29.159
<v Speaker 1>Well you you currently enjoyed golf. How did you turn

919
00:43:29.199 --> 00:43:29.719
<v Speaker 1>it around?

920
00:43:30.239 --> 00:43:33.159
<v Speaker 3>I took a break. It's not how long it was

921
00:43:33.159 --> 00:43:33.880
<v Speaker 3>like over a year.

922
00:43:34.039 --> 00:43:35.280
<v Speaker 1>Wasn't because you're in that car wreck?

923
00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:35.639
<v Speaker 4>Was it?

924
00:43:35.880 --> 00:43:38.960
<v Speaker 3>No? No, much later the car wreck came. But yeah,

925
00:43:39.000 --> 00:43:41.840
<v Speaker 3>I went to college and pledged a fraternity and was

926
00:43:41.880 --> 00:43:45.079
<v Speaker 3>too big. Yeah, at a disagreement, and then I came

927
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:47.079
<v Speaker 3>back to it and when you're drinking beer, when you're

928
00:43:47.079 --> 00:43:50.199
<v Speaker 3>playing and you know, not worried about where the ball

929
00:43:50.880 --> 00:43:52.320
<v Speaker 3>is out of bounds like that.

930
00:43:54.000 --> 00:43:54.280
<v Speaker 4>Sport.

931
00:43:55.639 --> 00:43:57.000
<v Speaker 1>Aaron, do you play golf? You don't play golf.

932
00:43:57.239 --> 00:44:00.000
<v Speaker 2>No, I'm not a golf guy. Adult softball guy.

933
00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:02.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a good buddy of minst one of two. Yeah.

934
00:44:03.599 --> 00:44:07.719
<v Speaker 1>In college it was a self taught scratch golfer. I said, man,

935
00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:09.760
<v Speaker 1>give me some golf advice. He goes you ready, Yeah,

936
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<v Speaker 1>don't play. That's pretty tone me. Great struggle, probably right,

937
00:44:14.719 --> 00:44:16.519
<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much to Jeff, to Billy, Aaron, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Good night from Lexington,
