Speaker 1: Hell everybody through the facilities of the iHeartMedia Megaplex. This
Speaker 1: is Dick Gabriel. It's a state wide edition of the
Speaker 1: Big Blue and Society. He heard comments from Mark Stoops
Speaker 1: and Tom Leach, Darren Hedrick and Jeff Pecoro. And now's
Speaker 1: your chance to get involved with Billy rut Aaron Gershan
Speaker 1: yours truly be a part of the state wide BBI
Speaker 1: Border to border. It is the Big Blue Insider. Dick
Speaker 1: Gabriel in studio with Billy Rutledge. Aaron gershawan, thanks to
Speaker 1: these gentlemen for carrying the show last Monday night as
Speaker 1: I was busy with UK Pro Day. We are going
Speaker 1: to talk basketball tonight because we do have Pro Day
Speaker 1: to talk about. Of course, we have Madness to talk
Speaker 1: about the return of Rick Patino, which didn't set well
Speaker 1: with fifty percent of the two gentlemen I just mentioned,
Speaker 1: so we'll find out more about that. And we've got
Speaker 1: to talk football obviously. And Aaron and I both attended
Speaker 1: the news conference earlier today. Billy was busy with his
Speaker 1: day job, but Aaron, it really wasn't much tonight that
Speaker 1: Mark Stoops talked about that he didn't talk about with
Speaker 1: us had a chance. I think, probably to look at
Speaker 1: more videos since then, of course, But any way you
Speaker 1: slice it and dice it, Kentucky played stupid football, just
Speaker 1: just played really, I mean, I don't understand at the
Speaker 1: bonehead plays, the penalties. Stoops himself admitted he made mistakes.
Speaker 1: Sure it was a comedy of errors.
Speaker 2: Yeah it was. It was a pathetic performance. I mean
Speaker 2: it was. It was as batter, if not worse than
Speaker 2: the Week two game against South Carolina. Twelve penalties over
Speaker 2: one hundred yards more hidden yards that that even accumulates
Speaker 2: in the yard totals, even the hidden yards like big
Speaker 2: plays take them. Wow, Yeah, unaccepted.
Speaker 1: Puts him at like four hundred jars.
Speaker 2: Two well, one drop polled, one bad snap, a terrible interception.
Speaker 2: Oh no, it came off the board, I guess trying
Speaker 2: to think was of the turnover fumble by Dame Key
Speaker 2: in the high rid right, the interception that was terrible did,
Speaker 2: luckily for Kentucky come off the board. Just just terrible.
Speaker 1: And this is all with reviews going their way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot went their way. I mean, look, Vandy
Speaker 2: scored forty points last week and it was Kentucky's defense
Speaker 2: great in this game. No, but they only squeak it up.
Speaker 2: You should win games in the SEC if you hold
Speaker 2: your opponent to twenty points. Diego Pavia was was he good? Yes?
Speaker 1: He was human.
Speaker 2: He threw a pick like and they got to him.
Speaker 2: They got three sacks like Kentucky's defense did enough to
Speaker 2: win this football game. Offense terrible and the special teams,
Speaker 2: I mean not just the drops hold barry On Brown
Speaker 2: puts you in position to win the football game or
Speaker 2: at least tye it where the pot returned to get
Speaker 2: to the forty eight and a illegal block.
Speaker 1: In the back nowhere near the football by a freshman year.
Speaker 1: And I thought, the offense, if you should, you can't
Speaker 1: do this. But for the sake argument, you can so
Speaker 1: track the penalties. I thought the offense was really good.
Speaker 2: Well, they moved the ball, but every time they.
Speaker 1: Do something good, they turn around. And I mean, if
Speaker 1: you heard the broadcast, and Billy you did because you're
Speaker 1: the network half to sir, yeah, you're you're pinned in here.
Speaker 1: But how many times did you hear Tom and Jeff
Speaker 1: and even me say not another flag?
Speaker 3: It was frustrating, Oh god, it really is. And I'll
Speaker 3: use a line that I think I've heard already three
Speaker 3: times today and it came from Stoops. It's a thin
Speaker 3: line between success and failure in this league and in
Speaker 3: football and boys, he right, I mean, Aaron and I
Speaker 3: had a great time hosting the show after talking about
Speaker 3: a win versus Old Miss and coming off of bye
Speaker 3: and getting to talk about the Alabama or Alabama Vandy game,
Speaker 3: and now Vandy was the talk of college football.
Speaker 1: Couldn't reach each other to pat each other exactly.
Speaker 3: And they'll be hungover for this game. There's no way
Speaker 3: they'd come in to beat Kentucky again like two years ago.
Speaker 3: But sadly this has become the norm lately and the
Speaker 3: record of what two and ten in the last twelve
Speaker 3: home game.
Speaker 1: You make a great point though, credit Vandy for not
Speaker 1: being hungover. Yeah, no, absolutely, But you know what, I
Speaker 1: got to thinking about that during the game. If Vandy
Speaker 1: were a big play chunk, you know, exciting down the
Speaker 1: field kind of play, that might have been an issue.
Speaker 1: But the way they play just grind it out even
Speaker 1: if you're hungover from again. But you know, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a great guard against that, isn't it. It is?
Speaker 3: You also had an extra week to prepare for an
Speaker 3: offense that you were probably going to see once this year,
Speaker 3: so you thought you'd be very well prepared, and for
Speaker 3: the most part you were. You held them to twenty
Speaker 3: Pavia even got hurt in the game and wasn't as effective.
Speaker 1: But part of the game plan.
Speaker 3: But yes, story is that you weren't able to get
Speaker 3: it done when you were across minfields. You it is,
Speaker 3: but you know, how many years are we going to
Speaker 3: say that? How many years in a row has it
Speaker 3: been that discipline has been an issue on this team?
Speaker 3: I mean, we have to start looking at who these
Speaker 3: players are being coached by and why that's the case.
Speaker 1: But weren't they the same coaches? You've got them ready
Speaker 1: for all miss and Georgia.
Speaker 3: That's that's why it's a That's why we're called fans
Speaker 3: stick it's short for fanatic, and we have to somebody
Speaker 3: has to answer after every loss.
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, I think you disagree with
Speaker 1: with Pcoro and man, I'm not sure about you, but
Speaker 1: most of those penalties, if not all, I blame on
Speaker 1: the players, the guys who do it. And here's part
Speaker 1: of my reasoning is we have just a baffo NFL
Speaker 1: game up on the wall tonight Buffalo and the Jets,
Speaker 1: and you are huge NFL fans, we talk about our teams.
Speaker 1: A nice win by the Packers. By the way, if
Speaker 1: that game were an NFL game and players committed those penalties,
Speaker 1: how many I'm sure some fans might because it's easy
Speaker 1: to throw barbs at coaches, But you know as well
Speaker 1: as I do, that an overwhelming majority of the criticism
Speaker 1: would have been heraled at the players. That that's the
Speaker 1: difference between pro and college. Coaches are just worshiped in
Speaker 1: college and in the pros they're just I get rid
Speaker 1: of them, move on. You know, the coaches are hired
Speaker 1: to be fired in the pro game. So and I
Speaker 1: realized professionals who played a lot more and all that
Speaker 1: time stuff. But you're talking about I mean, do you
Speaker 1: have to be coached? Hey, man, don't line up offside?
Speaker 1: That's wrong. You know how many more times did Jerrow
Speaker 1: Mincay had to be called for holding?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 1: No, that's not easy. I get that I was an
Speaker 1: offensive tackle for about a minute. It ain't easy. But
Speaker 1: to play so beautifully in Oxford and so well against Georgia,
Speaker 1: and I agree with Corol, you know, yeah, it's mental,
Speaker 1: but I think it's bogus to have to expect a
Speaker 1: coach to say, hey, guys, let's go, let's go. I mean,
Speaker 1: if somebody has to tell you that you shouldn't be
Speaker 1: playing football.
Speaker 3: I completely agree with that, especially when you only have
Speaker 3: twelve thirteen games a year. You should be able to
Speaker 3: get up for sall all week long.
Speaker 1: And it's game day.
Speaker 3: But I don't necessarily agree with you can blame it
Speaker 3: on the players because the coaches aren't the ones that
Speaker 3: committed the penalty. I mean that's always going to be
Speaker 3: you know, the coaches aren't playing in the game. So yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, it's I think it's tough to equate that.
Speaker 3: But if it keeps happening over and over again, then
Speaker 3: I think you have to find the common denominator.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but this year, how many other games were played
Speaker 1: out of.
Speaker 3: The You know, that's the strangest thing, Dick, because they
Speaker 3: were the least penalized team in the SEC going into
Speaker 3: this game. So, but there is common denominators like Stoops's
Speaker 3: record after bye weeks and Stoop's record at home the
Speaker 3: last four or five years. I mean, these cannot be
Speaker 3: ignored because these fans keep spending their hard money to
Speaker 3: buy tickets to go to Kroger Field to continually get
Speaker 3: let down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the home thing is what's mind boggling. I don't understand.
Speaker 2: And Mark and you know he brushed off when he
Speaker 2: was asked about it on Monday, and his Monday press
Speaker 2: conference before the game. After the game, he acknowledged, yes,
Speaker 2: like I have had conversations with the guys. Is it distractions,
Speaker 2: ticket problems, getting too amped up with family in town?
Speaker 2: Like what is the problem? Why what is going on?
Speaker 2: And it's just you're two in ten and it's not
Speaker 2: like we were talking for the show. Yes, you have
Speaker 2: two losses of Georgia and there most teams do. But
Speaker 2: you have two to Van. Do you have two to
Speaker 2: Seveuth Carolina? One to Missouri when you're up fourteen to
Speaker 2: nothing and then up by seven going.
Speaker 1: Out half fours.
Speaker 2: It's half those games. They're one in five against Vandy
Speaker 2: in South Carolina the last three years when they were
Speaker 2: eleven and one when they got the things rolling from sea.
Speaker 1: There's the thing, Bandy I think has improved. I don't
Speaker 1: think South Carolina is that good. And they then they
Speaker 1: turn around and play well against other teams. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: still think Kentucky's better the South Carolina, and I thought
Speaker 1: Kentucky was better than.
Speaker 3: Vander That's another indictment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is another indictment because they are better than
Speaker 2: both those teams. Especially. I still think, look, Vanderbilt, they're
Speaker 2: definitely much improved, but I think a lot of it
Speaker 2: is not necessarily talent scheme, Like their scheme is really
Speaker 2: good offensively, Yeah, was there defense anything special at all?
Speaker 2: Not really exactly, and they were ranked near the bottom
Speaker 2: in the country and past defense, you know what, I
Speaker 2: think we overlooked.
Speaker 1: We talked about it on the radio a little bit,
Speaker 1: but our heads were swimming from all the yellow flags.
Speaker 1: But you could probably see it upstairs as well. Aaron,
Speaker 1: He's O line, I thought set the tone as much
Speaker 1: as anything for Vanderbilt. Those guys are huge. You got
Speaker 1: a center who's three sixty and now Dan Walker's got
Speaker 1: his hands full. I thought the push their O line
Speaker 1: got was really good. And then you look at Tim
Speaker 1: Beck's offense, where he's got a midget for a quarterback
Speaker 1: who happens to be a magician, and what does he
Speaker 1: do half the time? He rolls him out. And we
Speaker 1: talked about that Vandergriff has been more effective rolling out
Speaker 1: to protect Kentucky's O line. But Vandy has been doing
Speaker 1: it since July, you know, working on that offense. So
Speaker 1: credit uh Vandy. Credit Clark League, good coach for who
Speaker 1: would want that job? Who would leave Notre Dame? Well,
Speaker 1: guy who played there there, Yeah, he goes in too,
Speaker 1: hire Tim Beck and comes home with Diego Pavia and
Speaker 1: Jerry Kill.
Speaker 2: It was a home run. I mean, yeah, safe might
Speaker 2: look it's Vandy. The really have a pretty long leash.
Speaker 2: But it might have saved his job in the long run, right,
Speaker 2: I mean that move is a it's a program changing move,
Speaker 2: and you know, credit to them for making it. But
Speaker 2: again into this year ten and twenty seven was at
Speaker 2: it something terrible? They were two and ten and twenty
Speaker 2: one and twenty three and I think they went five
Speaker 2: and seven there. They came in here in one because
Speaker 2: they beat Florida the next week. But just that's a
Speaker 2: program saving move. But again Kentucky. Credit to Vanderbilt. But
Speaker 2: Kentucky beat themselves worse than there's no question about it.
Speaker 3: And there's bigger problems of foot here. I mean, it's
Speaker 3: four touchdowns and four sec games. Like, no matter how
Speaker 3: many offensive coordinators to have been through, I mean, that's
Speaker 3: some that teams get in one game. So I mean
Speaker 3: there is.
Speaker 1: This gave one away which he went away absolutely from
Speaker 1: when they're four inches from the goal.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, and didn't accept that penalty to go
Speaker 3: closer and have an extra down, have the extra down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they would have been Yeah, I don't know what
Speaker 2: was it. It would have been half the distance. They
Speaker 2: wouldn't have been closer, but they'd have first and goal play,
Speaker 2: they would have an extra play.
Speaker 1: But then again, would you really think the way you
Speaker 1: can run the ball, would you need that when you're
Speaker 1: four inchers from the goal line.
Speaker 2: I mean they literally ran in a one yard run earlier.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and when the flag was thrown, they had run
Speaker 1: it into the end zone.
Speaker 2: And that's another thing, the flags. But the offensive tackle
Speaker 2: play this year's been terrible. Like I'm not trying to
Speaker 2: rip into two individuals, but Gerald Mincy hasn't played to
Speaker 2: the level that they were expecting him to. And Marcus
Speaker 2: Cox's seventh year senior's playing bad football and it's frustrating.
Speaker 2: And I did think better last year, much better last year.
Speaker 2: And I did Mark Stoups didn't say much new on
Speaker 2: the radio show tonight that he didn't say already, But
Speaker 2: one thing that caught my ear was that he mentioned
Speaker 2: Courtland Ford, who was active this past week, he's active
Speaker 2: again this week, that he might be a guy that
Speaker 2: can come in and play. And I do wonder which
Speaker 2: one of those tackles might lose their job if they're
Speaker 2: really going to give Courtland a shot.
Speaker 1: Well, it all starts up front. Yeah, And as I said,
Speaker 1: Vandy gave that Kentucky the vaunted Kentucky delon and I
Speaker 1: say that with respect. They played well all year, but
Speaker 1: it was I think a battle that not many people expected.
Speaker 1: I do think Kentucky expected it. Rarely do you see
Speaker 1: a Brad White defense go into a game. You know,
Speaker 1: every once in a while it happens. But Terrence point
Speaker 1: Vanny moved the ball between the twenties, but again twenty
Speaker 1: points and the touchdown late was a gift. And that
Speaker 1: again was because and Stoops admitted it was poor clock
Speaker 1: management at the end of the first half.
Speaker 3: Oh, and I was a really reoccurring theme. I don't
Speaker 3: want to be too negative. I will say one thing
Speaker 3: about Stoops is that he doesn't throw a lot of
Speaker 3: guys underneath the bus when it comes to press conferences.
Speaker 3: He talked a lot about leaders and you know, maybe
Speaker 3: they made some bad plays in this game, dan Key,
Speaker 3: and he didn't say them by name.
Speaker 2: He handed he said, our best player this.
Speaker 3: Year is the most consistent player on and off the field,
Speaker 3: things like that. But then he also said one guy
Speaker 3: doesn't keep his shoes tied.
Speaker 2: And that was a question about a specific player.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So, I mean I could sense the frustration in
Speaker 3: stud It's not only did I have to dump him
Speaker 3: during the interview with Tom after the game, but also
Speaker 3: he got cut off tonight because he was, you know,
Speaker 3: trying to get it all.
Speaker 1: In with with coach.
Speaker 3: Obviously it's on his mind and and you know, kind
Speaker 3: of like how we started the conversation. It's just such
Speaker 3: a razor thin margin between you being the hero that
Speaker 3: deserves a statue and the guy that might get run
Speaker 3: out of town. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it depends on which Twitter account you're.
Speaker 2: That's just the type of you're working for. I still
Speaker 2: think they're gonna win games where there may be an
Speaker 2: underdog in these last six and they're gonna win games
Speaker 2: where they're the favorite, I will.
Speaker 1: Say, And and again Stoops himself kicked himself for and
Speaker 1: he said trying to be aggressive, which I found interesting
Speaker 1: talking about the late move to throw, throw a throw
Speaker 1: and then have to punt, because he knew going in
Speaker 1: that it was going to be a ball control, possession
Speaker 1: kind of game. So do you run the ball, run
Speaker 1: the clock, force Fandy to use time outs, or do
Speaker 1: you throw the ball and if something goes wrong. Now,
Speaker 1: Vandy's got the opportunity. When he first got here twelve
Speaker 1: years ago as a first year, second year, even into
Speaker 1: his third year head coach, I thought he made mistakes
Speaker 1: with clock management. I thought little by little he had
Speaker 1: gotten much better at that. And that's why this one
Speaker 1: kind of surprised me because he has talked at length
Speaker 1: about the four minuted offense, winning the last four, winning
Speaker 1: the first four, that kind of thing, and I always
Speaker 1: said I felt like, well, clearly with his better teams,
Speaker 1: they did a great job at that. So that's why
Speaker 1: I was kind of shocked at the end of that
Speaker 1: first half. And again, maybe Vandy settles for three, but
Speaker 1: Kentucky's defense makes a rare mistake. There's a guy wide open.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's it's in his head a little bit.
Speaker 3: It's in my head.
Speaker 4: I know that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you never really feel good about it going
Speaker 2: into the middle eight.
Speaker 1: Now they go down to Gainesville, and I think it's
Speaker 1: amazing to me. I'm any Kentucky fans had that one
Speaker 1: circled pre just because of the confidence when it comes
Speaker 1: to playing Florida and how poorly Florida had been playing
Speaker 1: going in this year, and there have been signs of
Speaker 1: life in Gatorland.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they played Look, they always they always played Tennessee. Well,
Speaker 2: it's one of those things we all know that Kentucky
Speaker 2: has played Tennessee in years they're much better than Tennessee
Speaker 2: and not played well. It's just one of those things,
Speaker 2: same thing that happens in that in that series. But
Speaker 2: I think this is still a game Kentucky should win.
Speaker 2: I really do when I I haven't watched Florida to
Speaker 2: too closely, but they're they're bottom. I think they're ninety seventh.
Speaker 2: I checked today in rushing defense.
Speaker 1: No quarterbacks, there are no starting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've been playing two quarterbacks. Now they have to
Speaker 2: go to the freshman full time. Unfortunately, Graham Wortz towards
Speaker 2: ACL their wide receivers have been in and out with injuries.
Speaker 2: They're often the protection hasn't been good. Like this is
Speaker 2: not a very good Florida team.
Speaker 4: You have to be.
Speaker 2: They're favored by three, you get three for being at home,
Speaker 2: So it's basically a pick them game. Kentucky's played with
Speaker 2: Florida really well. I think they're going to get up
Speaker 2: for this game. They always seem to do so. And look,
Speaker 2: I was saying it before the show. My prediction is
Speaker 2: they win this game and they're gonna lose to Auburn
Speaker 2: at home next Wow.
Speaker 1: How about that?
Speaker 2: As far as anyone.
Speaker 1: You freeze.
Speaker 3: Kroger Field, that's true, that's true. I mean it is
Speaker 3: an advantage for Kentucky to be on the road or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they, I mean, if they think about this,
Speaker 2: if they lose to Auburn at home, it would be
Speaker 2: their first zero to four and sec play at home
Speaker 2: since twenty thirteen.
Speaker 1: Yikes, that was not a great year.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll talk about a little bit
Speaker 1: of a happier subject. That is Kentucky basketball. It is
Speaker 1: a statewide edition in a big Blue insider from Pikeville
Speaker 1: to Paduca. It is the Big Blue insider Dick Gabriel,
Speaker 1: Billy rutlives Aaron Gershawan and it is overlap time, this
Speaker 1: time a week ago Pro Day and then of course
Speaker 1: Friday was madness and a certain former coach showed up.
Speaker 1: First of all, let's talk about the floor.
Speaker 2: That was pretty cool, very cool, very very cool. I
Speaker 2: think the only time it had been used before was
Speaker 2: the NBA All Star Game, so it was incredible. I
Speaker 2: mean from all the I thought the coolest thing that
Speaker 2: did the football field was cool when Stoops came out.
Speaker 2: But the coolest thing was when and we'll get to
Speaker 2: Patino in a second, but when when they had all
Speaker 2: the ex players come out and they shifted the floor
Speaker 2: from different generations in Kentucky basketball. I thought that was
Speaker 2: a right.
Speaker 1: I wish they would introduce the players. Yeah, that was.
Speaker 2: Crazy to I mean, there were a lot, so itd
Speaker 2: have taken time, but I think everyone in Rubbery would
Speaker 2: have taken that five minutes to go through the list
Speaker 2: of the sixty something.
Speaker 1: What did you think you've been to several of those?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: Well, I purposely didn't go. I wanted to watch it
Speaker 1: on TV because of the floor. Yeah, I wanted to
Speaker 1: see that's good point.
Speaker 2: Well, to be honest with you, I stopped going because
Speaker 2: there was nothing to cover the same thing everything. So
Speaker 2: I went my freshman year as a student at UK
Speaker 2: and then I think I covered one and that was it.
Speaker 2: I just stopped going because it was like, all right,
Speaker 2: we're not getting interviews which didn't happen this week, but
Speaker 2: we know what's going to happen, we know the exact format,
Speaker 2: what's there to go see. Sometimes I wouldn't even watch it,
Speaker 2: to be honest with you, but this year, you know,
Speaker 2: I only I didn't really I saw the floor thing,
Speaker 2: so I was like, okay, that'll be cool. But it
Speaker 2: was Mark Pope's first one to see the differences, and
Speaker 2: I just thought from the floor to I really thought
Speaker 2: it was a really cool idea to have the players
Speaker 2: come out from the crowd and interact with the crowd
Speaker 2: that way.
Speaker 1: Pope's in the cheapest of cheap seats. Absolutely was it
Speaker 1: the worst seats and a half.
Speaker 2: And a lot of the players were too, Like Trentonoah
Speaker 2: being up in two forty probably watched games they're growing
Speaker 2: up not you know, it's just really cool stuff. So
Speaker 2: that from that whole aspect, I mean yeah, some of
Speaker 2: the drill stuff got is boring and stale still, but
Speaker 2: overall best madness in my time in Lex by a mile.
Speaker 3: Yeah, besides Lamont Butler wrapping to a track that's right,
Speaker 3: like all of them do.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I thought it was the coaches entrances that did it
Speaker 3: for me, not only Mark Pope at the top, but
Speaker 3: Kenny Brooks. I mean, he's still walking that hallway trying
Speaker 3: to get that was very big blue madness. I was like,
Speaker 3: what are we doing at first? But it did kind
Speaker 3: of I did kind of like it by the end
Speaker 3: of it. Besides the TV broadcast being awful them cutting
Speaker 3: off right before coach brook talks and you know, them
Speaker 3: showing the shooter in the three point contest, but not
Speaker 3: the bast it. There was a couple of times that
Speaker 3: it was just a little puzzling.
Speaker 1: Direct some directing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but so is the video? Is that is that
Speaker 3: floor now? Kentucky's like, do they just have that permanently
Speaker 3: or is that something they rented out? There is one
Speaker 3: time thing.
Speaker 2: For now, it's a one time thing. I don't know
Speaker 2: exactly if they there is toxic for that to be
Speaker 2: implemented permanently in the future. Or not at the moment.
Speaker 1: Can you play a game on that service?
Speaker 2: Apparently you can't. I mean they did at the NBA
Speaker 2: All Star Game. So yeah, but I think there needs
Speaker 2: to be I was gonna say there needs to be
Speaker 2: some testing.
Speaker 3: I asked Travis Perry about it on Friday because he
Speaker 3: was at our remote and he said it was too slippery.
Speaker 3: He's not going to jump. He's not going to even
Speaker 3: try to jump.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 1: Smart.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that says a lot. So there's a lot
Speaker 2: of work that needs.
Speaker 1: All Right, Rick Potato shows up, how do we feel
Speaker 1: about that?
Speaker 2: I'll let Billy go first.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. In fact, Billy is I think unique to
Speaker 1: this situation because having worked in Louisville and now Lexing,
Speaker 1: and he's a western Kentucky guy. That's so you really
Speaker 1: don't have an emotional arrow in the.
Speaker 3: Quiver, right, no allegiance, no emotional connection to the past
Speaker 3: of ninety six championship teams. And maybe I was being
Speaker 3: a little facetious show the pre show talk, but it
Speaker 3: really was all about Rick Patino. And I do question
Speaker 3: if he was actually invited by anybody at Kentucky to
Speaker 3: come to this, because he did publicly say that he
Speaker 3: called Mark Pope up and said I'm coming. And then
Speaker 3: there was also an instance in which he said he
Speaker 3: moved around the Saint John's practice schedule so he could
Speaker 3: show up to Big Blue Madness the day before the
Speaker 3: day he was supposed to be in town for Mark
Speaker 3: Stoops and football. I think Patino saw Cow wasn't there anymore.
Speaker 3: It's a place he's always yearned to get back to,
Speaker 3: so he used it as an opportunity to get back
Speaker 3: and receive the love of the people. I mean, who
Speaker 3: would not want it more than self absorbed Rick Patino.
Speaker 1: I refuse to believe that he just called Pope and
Speaker 1: said I'm coming. I firmly believe that that came from
Speaker 1: a conversation those two had. They've spoken more than once.
Speaker 1: But Yeah, the time he was on the court was
Speaker 1: all about him, But I don't think the fifty six
Speaker 1: minutes leading up to that was all about Rick Patino.
Speaker 3: Oh, we will remember this for a long time. Sure,
Speaker 3: it's actually changed the way I think he had come out.
Speaker 1: You know, here's the thing. I'd be willing to acquist
Speaker 1: to all that if he had been out at the
Speaker 1: very beginning and stood on the court the whole time.
Speaker 2: Well, he can't do that.
Speaker 1: No, But that's my point though over him all the
Speaker 1: time he was out there, and you're right, he soaked
Speaker 1: up some love. And how many people wondered would he
Speaker 1: show A and two? Would he be boot? You know?
Speaker 1: And but I didn't. Did you guys have people say
Speaker 1: you think he's gonna get booed?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: It was a whole week at sports talk radio.
Speaker 1: I had people just assume he'd be boot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't. I didn't question.
Speaker 1: To me, it would be like, we're on our best
Speaker 1: behavior because coach Pope is here. You know, the.
Speaker 2: Way that the crowd reacted up whenever he brought him
Speaker 2: up at the press conference, I knew it wasn't going
Speaker 2: to be boops.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's probably true. And now the question is, does
Speaker 1: he at some point make an appearance as Kelsey bring
Speaker 1: him over to U of l uil Oh? So maybe never,
Speaker 1: I think Louisville.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, this is a guy who spent
Speaker 2: time at Louisville saying, man, I should never have left Kentucky,
Speaker 2: and he said it several times.
Speaker 3: So I don't think that one he said we and
Speaker 3: they and he left compared to Kentucky Louisville this weekend.
Speaker 2: Obviously, neither Chris Mack or Kenny Paynes had a good
Speaker 2: tenure there, especially Pain. But Patina left that program in
Speaker 2: a mess, and they're not gonna He didn't leave Kentucky
Speaker 2: in a mess. He left them with a roster that
Speaker 2: ended up championship.
Speaker 1: One program he sued, the other he did not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure he holds a grudge forced down exactly.
Speaker 2: So I think he'll retire a cat if you will.
Speaker 1: All right, Jeff Cory, you heard him once, you'll love
Speaker 1: him again. Here all in the state wide BBI from
Speaker 1: Pikeville to Paduka. It is the state wide edition of
Speaker 1: the Big Blue Insider. Dick gabrielle erin Gershawn Billy Rudlet's
Speaker 1: join on our celebrity hotline. You heard him earlier tonight
Speaker 1: with Darren Hendrick playing every club in his bag, both
Speaker 1: at the Keith Madison Golf Tournament today and on the
Speaker 1: radio with Darren. But he promised me that he saved
Speaker 1: some good stuff for us. Jeff Acoro of the UK
Speaker 1: Sports Network And uh, I know you venagers pleaying with Darren,
Speaker 1: but you've got something left.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, I had to play it close to the
Speaker 4: vest I mean, Joe and Kelly Craft. There's I couldn't
Speaker 4: really get to upset so very nice. I couldn't. I
Speaker 4: really couldn't get real, real angry. But I will tell you,
Speaker 4: I will tell you, you know, playing in playing in
Speaker 4: that event. There's some there's some former players. Joe Fettersfield
Speaker 4: was there, Billy Ramsell, some other guys, and yeah, they
Speaker 4: weren't happy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and none of them has ever committed a penalty, right, No,
Speaker 1: you ever wonder what's here's a reugh. You gotta wonder though,
Speaker 1: how many of those guys played in a game. There
Speaker 1: was a festival of yellow flags like that one Saturday.
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous.
Speaker 4: Well, if you played ten years in the NFL, and
Speaker 4: especially for the New Orleans Saints, I'm sure he probably
Speaker 4: played those games, are you're right? I mean, Dick, you
Speaker 4: and I and Todd we talked about it, especially in breaks, guys.
Speaker 4: It's you know, you're taking one step forward, two steps
Speaker 4: back every single drive. And to only have seven drives
Speaker 4: in a game, that's remarkable.
Speaker 1: And so did Vandy No, I mean yeah, yeah, uh,
Speaker 1: and we expected that five.
Speaker 4: Of those five of those you were scoring position. If
Speaker 4: you only had what what they end up with? Thirteen points?
Speaker 1: What did Yeah? What did you think of the way
Speaker 1: Kentucky's defense played against a Vandy team has scored forty
Speaker 1: against Alabama and had to work it got almost almost
Speaker 1: got not a free one but a cheap one at
Speaker 1: the end of the first half, and scored only twenty
Speaker 1: against Kentucky.
Speaker 4: Dick, you know what this reminds me of and all seriousness,
Speaker 4: and I know I go back to when I played,
Speaker 4: but this reminds me of a lot of games that
Speaker 4: I played, you know, when we played with Jerry Clayburn,
Speaker 4: because our offense wasn't you know, a dynamic offense. It
Speaker 4: was we're running the football with four guys that ended
Speaker 4: up in the NFL and another guy Blocket for him
Speaker 4: that's in the Hall of Fame. You know, it's we're
Speaker 4: running the football. And that's what he said the first
Speaker 4: day Jerry Claybor took the job. He too, we don't
Speaker 4: run the football, boy. Oh yeah, and we didn't score.
Speaker 4: I mean our games were seventeen tens from twenty to seventeen.
Speaker 4: That was every game we played. And I just thought
Speaker 4: our defense was fantastic. I mean, they played really well.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: So inversely, what's been going on with the offense, Jeff,
Speaker 3: I mean, is there anything to buy weeks? Throwing off
Speaker 3: your mentality of you just came off a big win
Speaker 3: against Old Miss, now you have an entire week off.
Speaker 3: Is there anything to that or is it there's twelve
Speaker 3: games you should be able to get up for an
Speaker 3: SEC game.
Speaker 4: You know. You know, it's interesting real you said that
Speaker 4: because after the game, I think I told I don't
Speaker 4: remember if it was when you and I were talking,
Speaker 4: or was when Tom and I were talking, when you
Speaker 4: were getting ready, Dick, I prefer not to have a
Speaker 4: bye week, especially coming off a big win, because you're
Speaker 4: hyped up, You're amped up. I want to get back
Speaker 4: out there, right, I mean, yeah, Look at Vanderbilt. They
Speaker 4: had the biggest win in the history of their football program,
Speaker 4: the biggest win. They'd never beaten the number one before,
Speaker 4: and to beat them as emphatically as they did and
Speaker 4: score forty points, they couldn't wait to get the Lexington. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, And they played that way. And even though
Speaker 4: they scored forty against Alabama and were as high as
Speaker 4: they could be, and Kentucky's offense had so many penalties
Speaker 4: it was still a one possession game at the end.
Speaker 4: So that tells you somebody's doing something pretty good. And
Speaker 4: I think it's the deep they were. I'll tell you
Speaker 4: what the most valuable coach and it's and it's not
Speaker 4: even close. It's not even close as Brad White. He's
Speaker 4: done a phenomenal job.
Speaker 2: Jeff Kentucky's two and ten in their last twelve home games.
Speaker 2: They're oh and six in their last six. Two losses
Speaker 2: to Vandy two to South Carolina included that twelve. Yet
Speaker 2: they're six and four in SEC road games in the
Speaker 2: same span. What is why can't this team win at Krogerfield?
Speaker 4: You know, it's interesting. Aaron he he Mark asked the
Speaker 4: same question to the players. What do we need to
Speaker 4: do differently? What? What? What is it? Is it your
Speaker 4: family being around? Is it you being around?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 4: The campus? Is it when you go on the road trip?
Speaker 4: There's only one real thing to worry about, and that's
Speaker 4: that's basically football. I don't know, I don't have the
Speaker 4: answer for that. It's it's crazy. You look at how
Speaker 4: well and this goes back years. I mean, look how
Speaker 4: well they played the last time Kentucky was at Old miss.
Speaker 4: You know, they they just play really well. Look at
Speaker 4: look at what they did to Vanderbilt last year. Could
Speaker 4: have won that game fifty to nothing, right, I mean,
Speaker 4: vandibul could move the football and Kentucky even had a
Speaker 4: couple of stutters in offense, and still it was an
Speaker 4: easy win. You know, I just I don't understand it.
Speaker 1: Jeff, me, let me throw something at you. I kind
Speaker 1: of thought about this about midway through the first half
Speaker 1: when they were doing the silly penalties, and I kind
Speaker 1: of forgot to bring it up in the post game
Speaker 1: because there was just so much the process. But I
Speaker 1: started to wonder were they a little too amped up?
Speaker 1: Because Stoops later said they played hard, but I felt
Speaker 1: like the sloppiness might have come again again to Billy's point,
Speaker 1: from not being sharp thanks to that bye week, but
Speaker 1: and to your point again, you know you're rolling, you're focused,
Speaker 1: h you're polished. I felt like that polish wasn't there
Speaker 1: perhaps because of that, and therefore they weren't clicking as
Speaker 1: he unit, especially in the old line. You know, you
Speaker 1: had pre snap penalties and holding and you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I know it sounds weird to say that
Speaker 1: after a game. But it's not that he didn't play hard.
Speaker 1: Subtract the penalties. We were talking about this before he
Speaker 1: came on, and the offense looked pretty good. But every
Speaker 1: time he did something great, they do something stupid. So
Speaker 1: does that mean you see where I'm going with that.
Speaker 4: I understand what you're saying, but I think that you
Speaker 4: said the last the last word you said, did something stupid. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean, look, Dave Key is a great is a
Speaker 4: great ballplayer, right, yep. He can't have that penalty. You
Speaker 4: can't do that. Barryon Brown is Barrion Brown is possibly
Speaker 4: going to be in the NFL next year. Right. You
Speaker 4: can't on the first play of the game get up
Speaker 4: and try to, you know, man up against the entire defense.
Speaker 4: You just can't do that, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: You can't do that. You just have to have your
Speaker 4: head about yourself. Why is it? Why do you have
Speaker 4: to prove how mainly you are by by you know,
Speaker 4: you know, because he's from Nashville.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but.
Speaker 4: You know, catch seven footballs and then say look what
Speaker 4: I did? You know?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jeff, when I was in high school, I got
Speaker 3: the yips and I forgot how to putt completely not
Speaker 3: even I couldn't make a putt. I couldn't even make
Speaker 3: the putting stroke.
Speaker 1: It was bad.
Speaker 3: That's what I'll attribute to my bad golf season that year.
Speaker 3: But I want to ask you, Jeff, do you think
Speaker 3: Mark Students has the yips when it comes to the
Speaker 3: middle eight. I feel like whatever happens the opposite is
Speaker 3: what he should have done.
Speaker 4: George, you know, it's an interesting question. I really don't
Speaker 4: know how to answer that. I just I don't know, man,
Speaker 4: I I can't answer that question. I think that I
Speaker 4: think Mark's a better coach than what we've seen at times,
Speaker 4: you know, But I don't. I don't. I don't know
Speaker 4: how to answer that. I I don't know if it's
Speaker 4: the middle eight. It just seems that the middle eight
Speaker 4: seemed to be games that are are winnable games that
Speaker 4: they lose, right, I mean you look at these these
Speaker 4: three games, and that when I say these three games,
Speaker 4: I mean Vanderbilt, Florida Auburn. There are three games that
Speaker 4: I think would would We're going to turn the season
Speaker 4: for him, right, they win those three games, then they
Speaker 4: got a possibility of going, you know, winning eight or
Speaker 4: maybe even nine games. Now you've already lost one of those,
Speaker 4: plus you lost to South Carolina. It's going to be
Speaker 4: hard to get the six wins now.
Speaker 2: But they're gonna they'll win on the road because what
Speaker 2: they always you can't count on that. I'm at text
Speaker 2: to your point, but to your pointer, And they're going
Speaker 2: to have to start winning at home. Yeah, they have to,
Speaker 2: and though they only won sec opportunity left to do so.
Speaker 2: But Jeff, what do you make of the whole situation
Speaker 2: with Jamry and Wilcox? Obviously, every time he touched the ball,
Speaker 2: he seems like an explosive play average I think eleven
Speaker 2: and a half yards per carrying this game, but apparently
Speaker 2: you can't tie his shots. So what do you make
Speaker 2: of the whole ordeal?
Speaker 4: Crazy, isn't it. I just think that I think you
Speaker 4: have to look a little bit deeper than that air
Speaker 4: and I think you have to look at the fact
Speaker 4: that it's almost like last season, what do they have
Speaker 4: fifty two plays something like that? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Have something?
Speaker 4: Yeah too, they only had fifty Yeah, they only had
Speaker 4: fifty some uplates because you only had That's that's why.
Speaker 4: Because look, and I don't know if nil is but look, okay,
Speaker 4: Demi's you're starting running back and he and look he runs, well,
Speaker 4: he does a nice job blitz pick up and things
Speaker 4: like that. Right, So that's the reason he's your starter. Okay,
Speaker 4: so he's probably going to get his hands on the
Speaker 4: ball ten or twelve times. Okay, So now that fifty
Speaker 4: two is down to forty. Right, and then you say, okay,
Speaker 4: we got to get the ball to Dame te five
Speaker 4: or six times a game, and we got to get
Speaker 4: the ball to barry On five or six times a
Speaker 4: game because there's such you know, playmakers. Now you're down
Speaker 4: to thirty. You see what I'm saying, there's not enough
Speaker 4: snaps in a game when you only have fifty some
Speaker 4: on play. Well, yeah, if you're up in the seventies,
Speaker 4: if you're up in the seventies, now everybody gets to eat.
Speaker 2: That's what you expect in that game of van they're
Speaker 2: averaging close to seventies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well he's gotten the ball more.
Speaker 2: But yes, and now Mark Stuke said on the show
Speaker 2: today thinks they have a really good shot of getting
Speaker 2: Trip chain him back too, So it could complicate that
Speaker 2: even further.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm. Yeah, it's gonna be really interesting in the
Speaker 4: next couple of weeks to see how if they want
Speaker 4: to go to the other thing that when you when
Speaker 4: you watch the game, and I don't know, Aaron, if
Speaker 4: you feel the same way and Billions, there was no
Speaker 4: rhythm at all for either either team offense, no one right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Kentucky was was self inflicted.
Speaker 4: I felt yes, And I know, Look, I know what
Speaker 4: his thinking is because you have to you have to
Speaker 4: understand Soups first. He's defense first, right, I mean, he's
Speaker 4: a defensive coach. So his whole mindset is let's keep
Speaker 4: the ball away from Vandy's offense. But look, he has
Speaker 4: to trust his defense. His defense is really good, man.
Speaker 4: You know the Look what they did to Georgia, Look
Speaker 4: what they did to Ole Miss and really look what
Speaker 4: they did to Vanderbilt. J Jeff, Yeah, that that that
Speaker 4: was huge because their first downs were awesome. They were
Speaker 4: second and short all the time. But what I'm getting
Speaker 4: at is trust your defense a little bit and let
Speaker 4: that offense. Let just let it go a little bit more.
Speaker 3: I know, uh Stoops didn't allude to a certain player,
Speaker 3: but he did say it was it is more difficult
Speaker 3: to instill discipline in the NIL era. Would you agree
Speaker 3: with that?
Speaker 4: Jeff Yeah, oh yeah, oh yes, yeah, And that's what
Speaker 4: I was getting before. And I said, you got to
Speaker 4: keep people happy, you know what I mean, because they're saying, hey,
Speaker 4: if I don't get six touches, then I'm not going
Speaker 4: to get what I think I'm worth from this guy
Speaker 4: or this place or this place, you know, and everybody
Speaker 4: worrying about the next page exactly. That's what Nick Saban said.
Speaker 4: It's not about the problem with Ni l Is. It's
Speaker 4: not about what Mark Cope says the front of the
Speaker 4: jersey anymore. It's what's on the back of the jersey.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a few more minutes before we turn you loose,
Speaker 1: I need to ask your opinion. We've already discussed the
Speaker 1: return of Rick Patino. Billy found it terribly distasteful. He
Speaker 1: hates Rick Patino with every fiber.
Speaker 3: Was being exactly, but it was about him a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the last four and a half minutes of madness,
Speaker 1: we're all about Rick Patino, and that's that didn't set
Speaker 1: well with mister Rutledge. Your thoughts.
Speaker 4: I thought it was very interesting. I was wondering how
Speaker 4: the crowd was going to react when he walked into
Speaker 4: the building because the last time he walked into that
Speaker 4: building as a coach at a different school. People didn't
Speaker 4: like him too much in Lexington, but I think that
Speaker 4: the return. Rick has always said when he left Boston,
Speaker 4: had you know he he had looked. I don't care
Speaker 4: what anybody says, Kentucky's the greatest job in basketball. With Kentucky,
Speaker 4: fans will say, well, guess what, it's not. He got
Speaker 4: a percentage of the Boston Celtics. Yeah you're not. No
Speaker 4: one is turning that down people. But he said it's
Speaker 4: the greatest job. It was camelot. Okay, he leaves Boston,
Speaker 4: he wants to coach, right, he wants to coach again.
Speaker 4: He was still young at that time. Louisville caught him
Speaker 4: and said made a hell of an offer. He had
Speaker 4: to take the Louisville job. He's back in Kentucky. He thought,
Speaker 4: you know what, I've got friends, I'm in horse country.
Speaker 4: He did a great chop at Louisville. You can't deny that.
Speaker 1: If only he'd won a championship.
Speaker 4: He bleeds flu I mean when he walked out in
Speaker 4: the Kentucky and look, I thought it was really cool
Speaker 4: that instead of having NBA players there, And I'm not
Speaker 4: knocking what Calip Perry did. Drake wasn't there. It was
Speaker 4: Pope's teammates. It was the Kyle Macy's and Jim Andrews's
Speaker 4: and Kenny Walker's and those guys. It was Kentucky basketball.
Speaker 4: It's the same thing he did when he walked into
Speaker 4: the practice at the Joe Craft Center said, why are
Speaker 4: all these NBA guys up here? I want the banners.
Speaker 4: It's banner week, you know what. That's what people from
Speaker 4: Paduca to Pike full Covington, de corbyin want to hear.
Speaker 4: They want to hear about Kentucky winning championships. But they
Speaker 4: also like Kentucky sending guys of the NBA.
Speaker 1: But they also liked bragging about having the best recruiting
Speaker 1: class in America. Remember when they finished one year, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, they were like third or fifth or something.
Speaker 1: What's wrong with our recruiting? Well, they weren't getting enough
Speaker 1: of those guys who are the potential lottery picks, you know.
Speaker 1: And and Caliperry, of course, I think.
Speaker 4: Championships.
Speaker 1: Well that's that's my point, is that they liked it
Speaker 1: when it was working for the first five or six years,
Speaker 1: and then unfortunate injuries or whatever, COVID whatever. A lot
Speaker 1: of circumstance piled up and it all fell apart. Not
Speaker 1: that it was a house of cards or anything, but
Speaker 1: I'm just curiously how Mark Pope incorporates because he's gonna
Speaker 1: have to get and he's getting them already, you know,
Speaker 1: with the Alakai Moreno and the other kid. Who's the
Speaker 1: other kid they've got Jess Johnson, Jasper Johnson. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah. But we remember when Rick was there, he would
Speaker 4: bring in one or two great players and then the
Speaker 4: other guys are role players, right, I mean this one
Speaker 4: he had Mercer. Those were great guys, but the rest
Speaker 4: of the guys were you know they that's right, you know,
Speaker 4: you filled roles and everybody knows what their role is.
Speaker 4: And here's you got fourteen new players. I think I
Speaker 4: think it's awesome.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun. Jeff piicorl listen for him on
Speaker 1: the UK Radio Network, watching him on WTVQ channel thirty
Speaker 1: six here in Lexington. Thank you, brother, We'll see you
Speaker 1: in Gainesville.
Speaker 4: Thanks boys, have a great day, all.
Speaker 1: Righty, I come back with more of the Big Blue
Speaker 1: and cider and just a few Aaron's beloved Yankees are ahead,
Speaker 1: Jets are leading the Bills. I need that Jefs defense
Speaker 1: to do well.
Speaker 2: Go Buffalo.
Speaker 1: That's all I can say. We're back in a minute
Speaker 1: here on the state wide BBI. Thanks again to Jeff Pricoury.
Speaker 1: We let him go before asking him about as I
Speaker 1: forgot his beloved Buckeyes. He grew up in Oio State
Speaker 1: fan becaus his dad played baseball there, and I get that.
Speaker 1: I think they still have season tickets in the family.
Speaker 1: But I wisely predicted on more than one media out
Speaker 1: let the Ohio State would destroy Oregon, which was bad
Speaker 1: karma for me because A. My cousins have a ton
Speaker 1: of cousins who grew up and live around the Portland area.
Speaker 1: They're all Ducks fans and b what's the name of
Speaker 1: the Oregon quarterback? Uh? Exactly right? How stupid BG? That's
Speaker 1: exactly right?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: Man, What a wild finish?
Speaker 2: Did Will Howard not know? There was no time on
Speaker 2: the clock to slide?
Speaker 1: But not only that, but twelve men on the field.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and twelve they let that go because it's only
Speaker 3: a five yard Well, Oregon does that on purpose because
Speaker 3: it's only a five yard penalty?
Speaker 2: Smart?
Speaker 3: And then you could just Ryan, you can run more clock.
Speaker 3: You can run more clock with ten seconds left. And then,
Speaker 3: like you said, Will Howard, what are you doing so
Speaker 3: much for?
Speaker 4: That?
Speaker 3: Was it twenty five million dollars roster?
Speaker 4: Aaron?
Speaker 3: Is that what they've been calling Ohio State?
Speaker 2: I mean just a running backs alone and then the
Speaker 2: safety Caleb Downs and quin Shawn Jenkins cost him like
Speaker 2: eight mil together apparently.
Speaker 1: You know, it's just a classic Big ten matchup Oregon, Ohiose.
Speaker 2: States in proximity and everything. No Oregon, I mean there
Speaker 2: was I think they played a game in Columbus a
Speaker 2: couple of years ago, and I think Oregon one with
Speaker 2: a backup quarterback, So maybe maybe they just have their
Speaker 2: number up there.
Speaker 3: Oregon pulled off the on side kick I would do
Speaker 3: every game though, Oh my god, just kick it right
Speaker 3: and it bounces back. I mean, you're not gonna get
Speaker 3: all of them, but you might get one a game.
Speaker 1: Why the guy jump?
Speaker 3: I mean, if that thing is getting fired right at you,
Speaker 3: you might do the same thing.
Speaker 1: But isn't there why he's out there?
Speaker 3: What they're to block?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: If you're if you're on the front, you're on the
Speaker 3: hands team. If you're on the return team. Yeah, for
Speaker 3: the most part. Hand Yeah, but if.
Speaker 1: You're on the hands team, everybody up front is there
Speaker 1: because they can recover or catch or whatever.
Speaker 3: In theory, I guess for a surprise on side if
Speaker 3: that's the case, or but yeah, he just drilled it
Speaker 3: right at him, and then an Oregon receiver was ejected
Speaker 3: for spitting on another player. That's the one thing that
Speaker 3: would get me fired up, Dick, if you're talking about
Speaker 3: a fight outside of the studio. Yeah, somebody spits on
Speaker 3: me like that.
Speaker 1: Man. A million years ago, a million years ago. My
Speaker 1: junior year in high school, uh, Trinity's basketball team was okay,
Speaker 1: wasn't great. Our senior my senior year, the team was
Speaker 1: really really good and blew the first district game, so
Speaker 1: did Niven get Sweet sixteen. But anyhow, we had one
Speaker 1: really good shooter and we were playing flage A before
Speaker 1: they went out of business, and one of their bench
Speaker 1: players was their quarterback who was a good quarterback and
Speaker 1: a strong, muscular guy, not a great, you know, basketball player,
Speaker 1: but they put him in to start a fight with
Speaker 1: our best guy and get him kicked out of the game.
Speaker 1: And that's how he did it, and he got him
Speaker 1: kicked out on him. Yeah, and then you know Rick
Speaker 1: Texas swing and they knew the quarterback would handle himself
Speaker 1: in a fight. It was a heck of a fight,
Speaker 1: not just one of these pushing things hold me back,
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, and got our I think we may
Speaker 1: have still won, but they sent down. They set that
Speaker 1: guy in to get him kicked out of the game,
Speaker 1: and that's how he did it.
Speaker 3: That's that's amazing. I've had that thought before too. Why
Speaker 3: not say a backup player to go injure Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 3: or get him in a fight.
Speaker 1: I thought you were about one of your golf matches.
Speaker 3: No, I'm serious about those yips though. I mean my
Speaker 3: senior year of high school, I just forgot how to
Speaker 3: play the sport. Like, yeah, I got new irons so
Speaker 3: I couldn't hit those, and then I just I just lost.
Speaker 3: So just putting, Uh, putting was the bad part. But
Speaker 3: like just my entire game.
Speaker 1: Well you you currently enjoyed golf. How did you turn
Speaker 1: it around?
Speaker 3: I took a break. It's not how long it was
Speaker 3: like over a year.
Speaker 1: Wasn't because you're in that car wreck?
Speaker 4: Was it?
Speaker 3: No? No, much later the car wreck came. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I went to college and pledged a fraternity and was
Speaker 3: too big. Yeah, at a disagreement, and then I came
Speaker 3: back to it and when you're drinking beer, when you're
Speaker 3: playing and you know, not worried about where the ball
Speaker 3: is out of bounds like that.
Speaker 4: Sport.
Speaker 1: Aaron, do you play golf? You don't play golf.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not a golf guy. Adult softball guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good buddy of minst one of two. Yeah.
Speaker 1: In college it was a self taught scratch golfer. I said, man,
Speaker 1: give me some golf advice. He goes you ready, Yeah,
Speaker 1: don't play. That's pretty tone me. Great struggle, probably right,
Speaker 1: Thanks so much to Jeff, to Billy, Aaron, that's it.
Speaker 1: Good night from Lexington,