1 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: What's going on? Thank you so much for listening to 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,640 this podcast. It is heard live every day from noon 3 00:00:09,679 --> 00:00:12,519 to three on WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,719 want exclusive content like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,239 my daily show prep with all the links, become a patron, 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,600 go to thepeakclendershow dot com. Make sure you hit the 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,160 subscribe button. Get every episode for free right to your 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,679 smartphone or tablet. And again, thank you so much for 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,879 your support. Thanks a lot for hanging out. I appreciate it. 10 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,840 And I want to welcome back to the program. Charles 11 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:38,320 Holler and Tim Dwyer. They are the representatives here for 12 00:00:38,359 --> 00:00:40,280 the Charlotte Kawanas Club. How you doing, guys, Good to 13 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:44,000 see you, excellent, good good and so Charles, let me 14 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,560 start with you. You are the vice president of the 15 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,840 Kawanas Club of Charlotte, So real quick, tell us like 16 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:51,799 what is the Kawanas Club and then we'll get into 17 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:53,520 why you're here or is Tim want to take this? 18 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,240 I don't care who takes Tim will take it. He's 19 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,560 thea he had the title, so I just referred to 20 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:58,479 the vice president. 21 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: You know how, they are doing all the work like 22 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,760 we are. We Kowanas is a group of volunteers dedicated 23 00:01:04,799 --> 00:01:07,599 to serve the world, one child in one community at 24 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:11,359 a time, and in general. What does that mean? Basically, 25 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,400 we come together, We meet every two weeks and we 26 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:20,040 figure out ways to generate revenue to help kids, all 27 00:01:20,079 --> 00:01:23,760 different age groups of kids, from helping with after school 28 00:01:23,879 --> 00:01:28,640 activities to literacy to summer camps. And basically that's we 29 00:01:28,719 --> 00:01:35,280 all come together and men, women, executives, worker bees, all 30 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,599 different kinds of people, have lunch, break bread together and 31 00:01:37,599 --> 00:01:40,000 figure out a way to help the next kid. 32 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: Helping kids, that's a very controversial thing you guys have 33 00:01:43,439 --> 00:01:45,159 chosen to do, but we're here for you. We're going 34 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,079 to help you. We've helped in the last two years. 35 00:01:47,079 --> 00:01:50,680 This is the third annual now Coolest Dog in Charlotte 36 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:55,439 contest and so I guess the goal this year is 37 00:01:55,439 --> 00:01:58,480 to raise twenty thousand, still twenty thousand dollars right, okay? 38 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,560 And for people who want information on this go to 39 00:02:01,719 --> 00:02:05,640 Charlotte dash Kawanis dot org and that's spelled ki w 40 00:02:06,319 --> 00:02:10,080 A n I S Charlotte dash Kowanas dot org. So 41 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,439 who wants to take up the explanation of what exactly 42 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:17,120 is the Coolest Dog in Charlotte contest Charles. All right, Charles, 43 00:02:17,159 --> 00:02:17,479 you're up. 44 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,439 Speaker 3: Well, you know we we a few years ago we 45 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,919 heard from some of the local nonprofits that we support 46 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:29,120 that literacy was a huge concern, and I think of 47 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,319 our children aren't reading at grade level, and I think, 48 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,439 if you the other statistic i'd heard was one in 49 00:02:34,599 --> 00:02:37,840 six kids that's not reading at grade level, we'll probably 50 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,919 not graduate from high school. And so that's pretty powerful. 51 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,560 We wanted to have a fundraiser and we borrowed an 52 00:02:44,599 --> 00:02:46,520 idea from the Kuanas Club of Columbus, Ohio. 53 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 1: En y'all stole it. I talked to Mark last time. 54 00:02:48,719 --> 00:02:50,639 He said he totally stole it because that's where he 55 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,319 came from. And he's like, that's a great idea. I'll 56 00:02:52,319 --> 00:02:52,639 bring it. 57 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,199 Speaker 3: Borrow's fine with their permission. I think we might even 58 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,919 borrow some of their art graphics. And so we reached 59 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,560 out to a local brewery, Suffolk Punch, and they're going 60 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,360 to brew a beer for the winning dog. And it 61 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,879 kind of basically you just sign up your dog and 62 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,960 it's ten dollars and you gets your friends, family, co 63 00:03:10,159 --> 00:03:12,680 workers to vote for your dog. Every vote is a dollar. 64 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:17,319 Every dollar goes to our fund, and the fund then 65 00:03:17,439 --> 00:03:21,360 gets distributed in grant money to local nonprofits that support 66 00:03:21,439 --> 00:03:26,120 kids and literacy. Over the past couple of years twenty thousand. 67 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,039 This year our goal is another twenty. We have corporate sponsors, 68 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,039 Tyler Too Construction. We're kind of having a dog theme here. 69 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,719 Skipped Down is donating some things. Charlotte Chluer Police has 70 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,879 animal control and they'll be at our event at Suffolk 71 00:03:40,879 --> 00:03:43,280 Punch when we release the you know, when we tell 72 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,639 who won the contest, and they'll be checking microchips and 73 00:03:46,719 --> 00:03:49,080 dogs and giving away dog tags. So it's kind of 74 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,759 an animal theme, but it all goes back into this 75 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:53,039 community every dollar you spend. 76 00:03:53,199 --> 00:03:56,199 Speaker 1: Queen City Canine also still with you, guys, or no, 77 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,000 that was last year. I was last year. I pulled 78 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,719 last year's data apparently, so Suffolk Punch Brewery they're still there. 79 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,439 Tyler I Construction, they I think didn't one of their 80 00:04:05,439 --> 00:04:08,280 people win last year or two? They had a popular dog. 81 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 3: They have a company dog. 82 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,159 Speaker 1: And yeah, well a company dog. 83 00:04:11,199 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 3: Well their logos a dog. They don't have project managers. 84 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: They have lead dogs, lead dogs and so actually I 85 00:04:19,079 --> 00:04:22,639 remember talking when y'all first did this when the idea 86 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:27,600 we migrated down here from Ohio, let's say, but it 87 00:04:27,639 --> 00:04:31,120 was it was right after the pandemic, and you know, 88 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,120 kids had been you know, shut out of the schools 89 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,279 and they were you know, remote learning, and the literacy 90 00:04:37,519 --> 00:04:41,079 the test scores just plummeted. And to your stat that 91 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,560 you gave earlier, it's like if kids don't know how 92 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:47,319 to read at that third grade level by third grade, 93 00:04:47,519 --> 00:04:50,279 like the data is not good for them. And so 94 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,199 if ever, there was a time to help kids with 95 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,639 the literacy programs, and we're only two years three years 96 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:00,600 removed from that, so you've got their still this need 97 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,839 to get those kids up to a grade level in reading, 98 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:03,959 especially reading. 99 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, I mean it's it's a I don't know 100 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,720 if it's a pandemic or an endemic, but but sure, 101 00:05:11,879 --> 00:05:15,399 and and who's going to do it who? And we 102 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,720 as a club can't do it for everybody, So we 103 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:22,319 need other organizations who are already doing it and help 104 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,720 support them. So that's part of what the Kuanas is 105 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,120 is helping the people that are helping the people, and 106 00:05:28,199 --> 00:05:31,240 in this case, helping the kids that need the help. 107 00:05:31,319 --> 00:05:36,160 And and it's it's very empowerful. It's empowering. And to 108 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,759 see these these organizations that the you know, when they 109 00:05:38,759 --> 00:05:42,879 get this thirty five hundred dollars of donations to their 110 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:44,879 charity and what what it's going to be used for, 111 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,560 it's it's pretty remarkable. But most of the most of 112 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,360 the money goes to literacy. We also help with after 113 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,279 school activities, which are important to keep kids busy between 114 00:05:53,319 --> 00:05:55,519 three and five. And you know, so there's a lot 115 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,879 of things that the that these kids need. It's it's literacy, 116 00:05:58,959 --> 00:06:02,800 it's it's activities, it's summer camps, and it's just a 117 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:04,920 lot of different things. And if there's people out there 118 00:06:04,959 --> 00:06:07,079 who also maybe you don't have a dog, but you 119 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,720 want to volunteer, We're always looking for people to help, 120 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,680 who want to contribute, who want to do something different. 121 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,160 All the money that we raise goes to help our community. 122 00:06:15,399 --> 00:06:17,839 That's it. So we're just a group of volunteers that 123 00:06:17,959 --> 00:06:20,480 get together, break bread and figure out a way to 124 00:06:20,519 --> 00:06:22,079 help help some more kids in town. 125 00:06:22,199 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: Well, and I've said for years, if you know people 126 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:29,120 who are limited government conservative types, if you want government 127 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:33,040 to do less, then that means people do more. Whether 128 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,639 it's through these types of civic organizations, which really have 129 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,360 been the backbone of American society since its founding. Alexis 130 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,839 de Tokeville wrote about them, like these civic groups like 131 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:46,000 kawanas churches, like this is how people do things on 132 00:06:46,079 --> 00:06:47,959 their own. And if you do it on your own, 133 00:06:48,319 --> 00:06:50,879 you are you know, you're right there. You see how 134 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,600 all the money gets spent and you have the personal 135 00:06:54,639 --> 00:06:57,680 interaction with the people that you're impacting. 136 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,199 Speaker 2: Right, and you can make a difference. And that's a 137 00:07:00,199 --> 00:07:03,240 lot of people want to help or it takes it 138 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,720 doesn't take that much time. I'm saying that the average 139 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:07,959 Kiwani Kiwanian. I guess we are. 140 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was told last year it's Kawanian. 141 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 2: Kawani, And I mean we spent about three to five 142 00:07:13,759 --> 00:07:16,680 hours a month. I mean we'll have some different events 143 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,680 like the barbecue event will come in May. You might 144 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,079 put in a little extra time for that, and in 145 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,000 a in a Christmas time event that might take it 146 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,160 a little bit. But in general you're spending three to 147 00:07:26,199 --> 00:07:31,759 five hours a month and contributing. What the other cool 148 00:07:31,759 --> 00:07:34,160 thing about the Kuanas Club is everybody's got their own 149 00:07:34,439 --> 00:07:38,519 individual skill. You know, I'm in marketing and Charles's im flooring, 150 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,639 and we have accountants and lawyers and yeah, it's just 151 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,639 an amalgamation of society and everybody can do something and 152 00:07:47,079 --> 00:07:50,279 it's really fun when people step up and figure out 153 00:07:50,319 --> 00:07:52,839 a different way to help help the group grow. 154 00:07:53,439 --> 00:07:56,519 Speaker 1: So this event, Coolest Dog inst Charlotte Contest it is 155 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:00,199 running now. Is the voting? Well, first off, if you 156 00:08:00,199 --> 00:08:03,319 need people to get their dogs on camera, get a 157 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,959 good picture of them, right something you know, don't put 158 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,480 a person in it, just a dog, right, you want 159 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,839 just the dog, and then submit it onto the website. Right, 160 00:08:11,879 --> 00:08:15,519 and then then people can vote for the dog. Yes, 161 00:08:15,639 --> 00:08:16,120 that's how it. 162 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,199 Speaker 3: Works, correct. I think I saw this morning we had 163 00:08:18,199 --> 00:08:20,000 ten dogs. Shelby is in the lead. 164 00:08:20,279 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 2: I happen to know. 165 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 3: Shelby shots us up the street from me. Her owner 166 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,399 thinks she can talk, but I'm not sure about that. 167 00:08:27,639 --> 00:08:30,279 Speaker 1: Don't ever teach a dog to talk on command. You 168 00:08:30,319 --> 00:08:31,000 will regret it. 169 00:08:31,079 --> 00:08:35,039 Speaker 2: And then the key thing is to work the crowd, right, 170 00:08:35,159 --> 00:08:37,559 I mean, so, if you want to win the Coolest 171 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,320 Dog Contest and get your dog to be on a 172 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,879 beer brewed by Suffolk Punch on the label of a beer, 173 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,320 then and you get to name the beer, by the way, 174 00:08:47,039 --> 00:08:51,720 then keep the pictures coming. The crowd that's coming to visit. 175 00:08:51,919 --> 00:08:55,279 You know, you might go because your friend has a 176 00:08:55,279 --> 00:08:56,679 dog and you wanted to vote for them, but then 177 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,120 you see this other really cute dog. You're like, oh man, 178 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:00,960 that's a really cute one. So anyways, you. 179 00:09:00,879 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 1: Could throw a vote to them too. It's only it's 180 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,279 a dollar per vote basically, and it's a fundraiser. So 181 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,159 the more you know the votes, the more money you donate, 182 00:09:08,159 --> 00:09:11,120 the more votes you can cast. I have always offered 183 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,480 up my votes for sale. Always. I'm willing to be 184 00:09:14,519 --> 00:09:15,200 bribed for that. 185 00:09:15,279 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 2: It's for the kids. 186 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,639 Speaker 1: It's for the kids exactly. So you submit a photo 187 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,600 of the dog, you write up a couple of sentences 188 00:09:20,639 --> 00:09:24,159 why your dog is the coolest of the cool and 189 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:28,039 then the photo gets you know, posted, it should be 190 00:09:28,039 --> 00:09:29,840 in focus. I feel like I need to say that 191 00:09:29,879 --> 00:09:33,960 no filters. People don't be putting in the like I 192 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,480 don't know, fat ears, Yeah, don't be yeah doing yeah, 193 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:40,200 fake ears or fake hats and stuff on the dogs. 194 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:44,840 And then the photos are the votes. Ten dollars to 195 00:09:44,919 --> 00:09:48,080 post the dog, but you get ten votes when you 196 00:09:48,279 --> 00:09:50,679 enter your dog So if you've got multiple dogs, take 197 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:55,720 separate photos, enter them separately, create the rivalry in the household. Right, 198 00:09:55,759 --> 00:09:58,679 that's a good thing. Probably ten dollars posting fee applies 199 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:00,639 to each dog that you enter, and the votes are 200 00:10:00,639 --> 00:10:04,080 a dollar per vote. No maximum on how many votes 201 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:08,360 that a person can buy. Very This is very like 202 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,559 Tammany Hall ask here it comes down to the wire. 203 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:13,919 Sometimes it comes down to the wire. That's right. 204 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 3: We had a call from a senior living facility in Charlotte. 205 00:10:17,399 --> 00:10:19,399 They asked if the dog had to be living. 206 00:10:21,039 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 1: Good question. 207 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 3: The Kawana's board met and we agreed, that's fine. That 208 00:10:25,279 --> 00:10:26,840 could be a dead dog, could be a dead dog. 209 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: It can be so in memoriam. So the coolest dog 210 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,679 in Charlotte could be deceased. 211 00:10:33,399 --> 00:10:34,799 Speaker 3: As long as you have a good picture of it. 212 00:10:35,519 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 1: No ashes, All right, no judgment here. 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Charles Holler also co 240 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,519 chair of the event, but also the vice president of 241 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,879 the Charlotte Kawanas Club. Do you guys meant to ask 242 00:12:12,919 --> 00:12:15,279 you do you have a theme for this year? Because 243 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,519 don't you guys use like an annual theme or something. 244 00:12:17,639 --> 00:12:18,480 Did you used to do that? 245 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:19,519 Speaker 3: Yeah? 246 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 2: Have fun. 247 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: Oh that's a good one. 248 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 2: That was Mark Mark's theme. I think the new the 249 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,080 new president of Kawanas gets to bring his own theme. 250 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,360 And I do not think Don Williams is our new 251 00:12:31,039 --> 00:12:33,679 as our new president. I don't think he has introduced 252 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:34,399 He does a. 253 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 3: Good job recognizing our members and he has a Quanian 254 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,720 of the month. Yeah, and he'll recognize folks for their 255 00:12:41,799 --> 00:12:44,600 volunteer hours and bringing new ideas to our club. 256 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:46,919 Speaker 1: Okay, so one of the ideas that you guys have 257 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:51,200 been doing for a long time. And uh, you've probably 258 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,639 seen the bumper stickers on people's cars. I have a 259 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:58,679 terrific kid at some school and so that's you guys, 260 00:12:59,399 --> 00:13:01,679 are your bumper sticks? So what's that program about? Yeah? 261 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 2: And that's the funny thing is people have probably seen 262 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:05,720 these bumper stickers all around town and they don't really 263 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,759 know what is that. You know, like my kid doesn't 264 00:13:07,799 --> 00:13:08,440 get good grades? 265 00:13:08,519 --> 00:13:08,879 Speaker 1: No, no, no. 266 00:13:08,919 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 2: The Terrific Kid. Terrific Kid is a program that we 267 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:18,440 use to recognize children in these different schools, and Charles 268 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,000 can go into the specific schools, but we asked the 269 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:24,519 teachers to recognize somebody. This last one. I was one 270 00:13:24,759 --> 00:13:27,799 at recently February twelfth at Barry Hill School which is 271 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,639 over by the airport and it's got a lot of 272 00:13:30,919 --> 00:13:35,240 underprivileged kids there and they got recognized that month for 273 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:40,000 the word responsibility. So everything in terrific. Although Charles and 274 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:41,799 I just found out that they're missing one are, but 275 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,639 everything stands for some responsibility was the issue. And to 276 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,840 see these kids from kindergarten to a fourth grade or 277 00:13:48,879 --> 00:13:52,240 fifth grade, to see them stand up and get awarded, 278 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,240 they get recognized. You know, it comes over the PA system. 279 00:13:55,279 --> 00:13:57,559 You know, Tim Dawire, please come down to the the 280 00:13:58,000 --> 00:13:59,759 oh boy. You know, as a kid, I would get 281 00:13:59,759 --> 00:14:02,120 scared to hear that message. But these kids are going 282 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,480 to get a Chick fil A gift card, they get 283 00:14:05,399 --> 00:14:09,480 the Terrific Kids Magnet, they get a pencil, they get 284 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,360 a bunch of different things and a recognition award that 285 00:14:12,399 --> 00:14:14,440 they get to bring home and just to see their 286 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,000 faces grin and ear to ear, they were recognized for 287 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:20,000 having responsibility and the teachers do a great job and 288 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,480 they write a little note of what you know, Junior 289 00:14:22,519 --> 00:14:25,679 did to receive the responsibility award. So yes, we give 290 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,919 away these terrific kids things. We do this every month, 291 00:14:28,919 --> 00:14:30,559 I believe Charles right, and so we do. 292 00:14:30,759 --> 00:14:34,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're we're in four schools CMS schools, so Raymond School, 293 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:38,240 Berry Hill, Wind Get Park to Park and o Kirstein. 294 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: So you do summer camps as well, Yes, yes, sir, 295 00:14:42,759 --> 00:14:45,080 so tell us real quick about the summer camps. 296 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:49,679 Speaker 2: Summer camps are camp career and we use we have 297 00:14:49,799 --> 00:14:52,799 a barbecue coming up in May that we will hopefully 298 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,360 get to talk about on here air. But the summer 299 00:14:55,399 --> 00:14:57,559 camps are to send kids that might not get a 300 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,240 chance to go to a summer camp, give them their 301 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,960 first opportunity. So underprivileged kids get to have a week 302 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,639 of summer camp. And that means staying in the bunks, 303 00:15:06,039 --> 00:15:09,720 playing with friends, you know, shooting bb guns and bows 304 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,919 and arrows, and canoeing and jumping off you know, diving 305 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,360 boards and just have being a kid for a week. 306 00:15:15,399 --> 00:15:19,200 And it's just a lot of these kids will go 307 00:15:19,279 --> 00:15:22,799 to that camp and we don't necessarily see them go 308 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:24,120 to the camp and we don't get to see them, 309 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,000 but they'll come back and they'll thank us at the 310 00:15:26,039 --> 00:15:27,679 Kawanas Club and they'll say like, Hey, that was the 311 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,799 first time I had ever been away from home. And 312 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:31,519 then one one kid came back and said he had 313 00:15:31,559 --> 00:15:32,960 become a counselor at Camp Career. 314 00:15:32,799 --> 00:15:34,879 Speaker 3: Right Charles, He said, first time he's ever played in 315 00:15:34,879 --> 00:15:36,480 a creek, first time I ever been in a canoe, 316 00:15:36,519 --> 00:15:39,399 first time he ever sell Stars came back the next 317 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,960 year on scholarship, and now he's a camp counselor at 318 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,279 Camp Career. That's a partnership we have with First Press 319 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,679 Church Uptown. They work with the guidance counselors at cms. 320 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,759 They identify kids that need that opportunity to get away 321 00:15:51,799 --> 00:15:54,039 in the summertime. It just it changes their lives. 322 00:15:54,159 --> 00:15:56,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I was gonna say, and you've impacted that 323 00:15:56,679 --> 00:15:59,600 kid for the rest of his life because of the 324 00:16:00,039 --> 00:16:00,919 programs you guys do. 325 00:16:01,159 --> 00:16:04,559 Speaker 2: And then and then also during Christmas, you know, when 326 00:16:04,559 --> 00:16:07,039 you offer a Christmas break and the holidays, you know, 327 00:16:07,159 --> 00:16:09,679 the you don't think about this, but a lot of 328 00:16:09,679 --> 00:16:13,200 the kids, a lot of these underprivileged kids, they need food. 329 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,879 They're getting food from the school system and when they don't, 330 00:16:15,919 --> 00:16:17,919 you know, So the Quanus Club not only do we 331 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,320 rally and get them some presents and uh and and 332 00:16:21,399 --> 00:16:23,360 help them out like that, but we give the family 333 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,080 food so that they can make it through that two 334 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,600 week period or so to you know, they're not going 335 00:16:28,679 --> 00:16:30,720 to have meals anymore, so they're gonna they need to 336 00:16:30,759 --> 00:16:32,519 get some food in the house. And so we'll do 337 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,720 that during the Christmas season. So it's always ongoing. We 338 00:16:35,759 --> 00:16:38,919 always meet. We're always having these meetings on every other 339 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,840 Thursday to figure out what we want to do next 340 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:43,840 and who we want to help or what what what 341 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,480 somebody will bring something to our problem. You know, it's 342 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,799 a problem. Literacy is a problem, you know, So we 343 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:51,960 didn't know. So now we give away books. 344 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,919 Speaker 1: No, it's it's like anything else. It's it's the people 345 00:16:54,919 --> 00:16:57,360 and what they're willing to uh to do to help 346 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,320 the effort in the organization. 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Eighty seven, 377 00:18:44,079 --> 00:18:47,559 is a companion bill to a similar bill that was 378 00:18:47,599 --> 00:18:51,720 introduced over in the Senate earlier this month. The bill 379 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:56,319 directs governing bodies of public school units to adopt a 380 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:04,359 cell phone free education policy to eliminate or severely restrict 381 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:11,000 student access to cell phones during instructional time. Now, how 382 00:19:11,559 --> 00:19:15,640 that looks in each individual school will be up to 383 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:20,240 the individual schools, According to the bill's primary sponsor, Neil 384 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:24,880 Jackson from Moore County. The bill does not apply to 385 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:31,559 remote charters or academies. Seventy seven school districts already have 386 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:35,119 policies on cell phone use in classrooms, according to the 387 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:39,079 bill's summary, So this would just you know, mandated for 388 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:45,200 the remaining schools. And look, this is a smartphone use 389 00:19:45,319 --> 00:19:47,440 is one of these topics that I have been following 390 00:19:47,599 --> 00:19:54,160 for several years. I know that I know that smartphones 391 00:19:54,200 --> 00:20:00,079 are addictive. I know this, Okay. I use my my 392 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:04,640 cell phone, my smartphone mainly for Twitter, and I tell 393 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,400 myself it's because of the work that I do. I 394 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:12,240 have to be aware of what's going on at all times. 395 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:16,319 And truth be told, that's a little bit of a crutch. 396 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,799 That's an excuse. I sometimes check it when I shouldn't. 397 00:20:20,319 --> 00:20:22,839 But I've become way more over the last two three 398 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:27,079 years or so. I've become way more cognizant of how 399 00:20:27,079 --> 00:20:31,039 often I use it and when I put the thing away, 400 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,279 and I tried to, like, I put it away on 401 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,039 weekends and stuff. I don't try to open it up 402 00:20:36,839 --> 00:20:39,759 during the weekends. It is rare that I will check emails. 403 00:20:39,759 --> 00:20:41,440 That was sort of the first thing that I did 404 00:20:41,519 --> 00:20:48,960 years ago. I stopped, you know, wearing the email handcuffs. 405 00:20:49,319 --> 00:20:51,160 I know I would have missed the email from Elon. 406 00:20:52,319 --> 00:20:54,240 If I was a federal worker, I would have totally 407 00:20:54,279 --> 00:20:58,079 missed it. But I try not to open emails if 408 00:20:58,079 --> 00:21:01,200 it's important enough for people to tell right, I still 409 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,039 look at If somebody texts, I will look at the 410 00:21:03,039 --> 00:21:06,839 text messages and stuff. Obviously, people make a phone call 411 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,000 to me, I will answer the phone. But as far 412 00:21:10,039 --> 00:21:14,079 as like going through and monitoring emails, don't do it. 413 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,599 And so the only thing that I'm really looking at 414 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,880 in a lot is Twitter. And I know that I 415 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:24,759 shouldn't be looking at it as much as I do. 416 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:29,640 That's why I know that for people who do not 417 00:21:29,839 --> 00:21:33,799 have fully formed brains, mine is fully formed now people, 418 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,480 despite what you may think it is fully formed. It's 419 00:21:37,519 --> 00:21:39,920 never going to get any better than it is right now. Okay, 420 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:46,000 I have achieved peak brain maturation, and actually I'm probably 421 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,519 on the down. I'm probably on the decline now right 422 00:21:49,519 --> 00:21:51,559 because your brain does not fully form until you're in 423 00:21:51,599 --> 00:21:58,039 your like early twenties. Are we are going through a 424 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:05,359 real time math experiment because the technology that was introduced 425 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:10,160 to us within the last fifteen years the human race 426 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:15,559 has never had before. We don't know all of the impacts, 427 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,519 but we're starting to figure it out. We're starting to 428 00:22:18,559 --> 00:22:23,759 realize it. And the all of these all of these studies, 429 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:28,079 they're showing the same sorts of behavioral problems that are 430 00:22:28,079 --> 00:22:33,680 attached to smartphone use screen time in general. Right, just 431 00:22:33,839 --> 00:22:41,079 screen time increased rates of anxiety depression. Right, You've got 432 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,759 people's lives that get ruined because they're tweeting stuff or 433 00:22:44,799 --> 00:22:48,160 texting stuff. There are you know, I mean all of 434 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:52,680 the the scams that are out there, and the extortion 435 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:57,960 and the I mean just awful things. Right when the 436 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,640 Internet is wide open, and that means a lot of 437 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,960 bad people now have access to your kids, right, they 438 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:09,960 have access to you. And with AI coming on board, 439 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,000 now you're going to be able to, you know, just 440 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:16,359 fabricate stuff about people. It is a mass experiment we 441 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:21,759 are in. We have to be able in a rational 442 00:23:21,799 --> 00:23:25,440 way fighting back our addiction to the screens. Right, we 443 00:23:25,559 --> 00:23:28,640 have to be able to step back and say, on 444 00:23:28,759 --> 00:23:34,480 the net, is this technology good or bad? Is it 445 00:23:34,559 --> 00:23:41,279 beneficial or not or detrimental? Right? And for which age groups? 446 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,079 Because what might be perfectly appropriate for somebody in their 447 00:23:45,079 --> 00:23:47,440 thirties may not be so for somebody in their teens. 448 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:52,279 This used to be well understood. But now apparently, you know, 449 00:23:52,599 --> 00:23:55,640 people are resistant to this because I think convenience. I 450 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,599 think a lot of people just find it very convenient 451 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,559 to give their kids a tablet and then the kid 452 00:24:00,599 --> 00:24:04,880 shuts up. Really like, I think that's it's easier. I 453 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,960 get it. It's just like the television was. Put the 454 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,480 kid in front of the TV, turn it on, put 455 00:24:08,519 --> 00:24:11,079 some cartoons on, and then the kid leaves you alone 456 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:15,319 for a while. I understand that. One of the arguments 457 00:24:15,319 --> 00:24:17,079 that I hear all the time though about why we 458 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:23,920 can't ban the cell phones in class is for safety. 459 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,079 And I don't buy this argument either. All right, if 460 00:24:28,079 --> 00:24:29,839 you're listening to this show, you know I try to 461 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,680 keep up with all sorts of current events, and I 462 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,920 know you do too, and you've probably heard me say 463 00:24:34,039 --> 00:24:36,279 get your news from multiple sources. 464 00:24:36,759 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 2: Why. 465 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 1: Well, because it's how you detect media bias, which is 466 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,279 why I've been so impressed with ground News. It's an 467 00:24:43,319 --> 00:24:46,680 app and it's a website and it combines news from 468 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,920 around the world in one place, so you can compare 469 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,000 coverage and verify information. You can check it out at 470 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:56,599 check dot ground dot news slash Pete. I put the 471 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,720 link in the podcast description too. 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Your subscription 480 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,680 then not only helps my podcast, but it also supports 481 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,960 ground News as they make the media landscape more transparent. 482 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:38,559 All right, So the smartphones in schools like this is 483 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,519 now it's becoming very obvious, so much so that even 484 00:25:42,599 --> 00:25:49,279 govco has started to ban the smartphones in schools. There 485 00:25:49,519 --> 00:25:52,880 was a debate about this in the North Carolina House 486 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,920 on a committee where they moved the bill through their 487 00:25:55,960 --> 00:26:00,079 committee that would curbs students cell phone used during class 488 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:05,920 room instruction time. And one of the people who spoke 489 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:13,079 against it was a Democrat from Durham, Representative Marsha Moury. 490 00:26:13,519 --> 00:26:16,799 This woman was a judge, by the way, and she 491 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:21,640 questioned the bill for its potential to limit parents contact 492 00:26:21,799 --> 00:26:26,359 with their child in schools. Now, this woman, Marsha Mory, 493 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:32,079 she's I believe older than I am, and and not 494 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,559 to be insulting or anything, but she remembers a time 495 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:40,880 before kids were in constant communication with everybody and parents 496 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,079 in constant communication with their kids throughout the school day. 497 00:26:45,559 --> 00:26:49,720 So like you have a personal memory of the way 498 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:56,240 things were before everybody had a supercomputer in their pocket. Right, 499 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,720 she says, I think the idea behind this bill is 500 00:27:00,799 --> 00:27:03,400 really good, and if I were a teacher, I would 501 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,680 really like it. When I have gotten some emails from constituents, 502 00:27:07,759 --> 00:27:10,920 it's been the parents. They are worried about being in 503 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:15,079 touch with their child, especially if it's an emergency, if 504 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,200 it's an active shooter, they want to be in touch 505 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:22,160 with their kids. Right. So, first off, and I've heard 506 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:28,839 this argument too. First off, the school shooter scenario is 507 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:35,960 such a rare phenomenon. It is so rare. Right, this 508 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:40,559 is not a realistic fear. I understand it's a fear, 509 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,279 but it's not a realistic one because the chance of 510 00:27:44,319 --> 00:27:50,480 it happening is so remote. Number one. Number two, if 511 00:27:50,519 --> 00:27:55,680 it is an active shooting situation, why would you want 512 00:27:55,759 --> 00:28:00,359 your kid to have a phone that might ring while 513 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,119 they're hiding, or that they might be calling you and 514 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:08,359 talking to you, and then the perpetrator hears them. Why 515 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,480 would you want to set the conditions for that kind 516 00:28:11,519 --> 00:28:20,000 of a scenario. Also, if there are instructions that are 517 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,079 being given, you want your kid to hear them, not 518 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,559 to be trying to dial out. And also, what exactly 519 00:28:26,599 --> 00:28:29,559 do you intend to do? What is the point of 520 00:28:29,599 --> 00:28:34,799 the communication? Right? It's right, because you can't you're you know, 521 00:28:34,839 --> 00:28:37,079 you're at work or you're at home, you're miles away. 522 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,359 You can't stop that thing from happening. You can't come 523 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:44,680 and save them. So what is the purpose of the communication. 524 00:28:45,319 --> 00:28:48,480 Is it to tell them that you love them in 525 00:28:48,519 --> 00:28:49,839 a very scary situation? 526 00:28:51,079 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 3: Right? 527 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,559 Speaker 1: You should tell them you love them before they go 528 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,319 to school every day. Right, Make so this way there's 529 00:28:57,359 --> 00:29:02,359 never any doubt. Is it to provide comfort in that moment? 530 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:04,119 Speaker 2: Right? 531 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:11,599 Speaker 1: Okay? But does that outweigh all of the other potential 532 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:17,079 harms the downsides there? Are they going to be so 533 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:21,680 worried talking to you trying to get comforted, that they 534 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,160 that they don't do what might be necessary to save themselves. 535 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,200 And again, this is a very very very rare thing anyway, 536 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,079 So I don't I really don't put a lot of 537 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:39,680 weight behind this argument that because again, there are no solutions, 538 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,720 there are only trade offs. The trade offs here are 539 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:48,599 so far in one direction. Versus keeping the smartphones right, 540 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,519 banning them in the classroom, you can like they have 541 00:29:52,599 --> 00:29:55,319 lockers or bags, you can put them in that. You know, 542 00:29:55,599 --> 00:29:57,880 then they're out of sight, out of mind. Like the 543 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:02,000 studies are all there, all on the same page with 544 00:30:02,119 --> 00:30:07,160 this stuff. Like even having a smartphone, like, oh, I'll 545 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:08,880 just keep it at my desk and I won't turn 546 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,640 it on. That's distracting. They've done studies on that too. 547 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,640 You sit at a desk and you're taking a test 548 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,839 and you have your smartphone next to you. The brain 549 00:30:19,039 --> 00:30:21,880 keeps wanting to go over and grab it and turn 550 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,759 it on. It is still a distraction. You have to 551 00:30:25,839 --> 00:30:28,839 take the thing out of the room. It's got to 552 00:30:28,839 --> 00:30:31,400 be set aside somewhere. I went to one school I 553 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:36,160 recently visited, gave a speech to a couple classes, and 554 00:30:36,319 --> 00:30:39,079 this school had all of the cell phones out in 555 00:30:39,119 --> 00:30:41,519 the hallway. They had a big rack and all the 556 00:30:41,599 --> 00:30:44,160 kids would come and they would plug their phones in 557 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,559 and sit them on the rack, and then during the 558 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,599 switching of the classes, they could come over and pick 559 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,519 the phones up and they could you know, snapchat away 560 00:30:54,599 --> 00:30:58,079 or whatever for the minute that they have. So there 561 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,680 are things you can do to mitigate this because the 562 00:31:01,759 --> 00:31:04,079 harm being done to the kids in the instructional time. 563 00:31:04,119 --> 00:31:07,519 I think it's pretty clear what's happened. 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