WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.520 --> 00:00:04.759 Disclaimer. We'd like to know before the start of this 2 00:00:04.879 --> 00:00:07.360 interview that the opinions about to be expressed by the 3 00:00:07.480 --> 00:00:10.519 guest of tonight's Getting Salty Experience Podcast are that of 4 00:00:10.599 --> 00:00:13.560 the guest and do not directly or necessarily reflect the 5 00:00:13.640 --> 00:00:30.920 views of the host of the Getting Salty Experience Podcast. 6 00:00:32.560 --> 00:00:35.200 You're listening to the Getting Salty Experience Podcast. 7 00:00:38.439 --> 00:00:48.359 Hello, oh, certainly, whoa what happens that we'll do this? 8 00:00:48.359 --> 00:00:48.520 Guy? 9 00:00:48.560 --> 00:00:50.479 Hey, hey, don't, hey, don't hey, there. 10 00:00:50.320 --> 00:01:00.560 We go, Everything's gonna happen. Scoops, I did that? 11 00:01:00.920 --> 00:01:01.479 Yeah, I think so. 12 00:01:01.520 --> 00:01:10.719 I think you're pushing the buttons. I don't know what anyway, Sorry, 13 00:01:11.079 --> 00:01:12.400 that's my favorite. 14 00:01:12.799 --> 00:01:15.159 That's was maybe putting roughly on the big screen like that. 15 00:01:15.200 --> 00:01:15.359 Man. 16 00:01:15.439 --> 00:01:19.760 Yeah, well, mixture of the boat trip gons no kidding. 17 00:01:19.879 --> 00:01:21.799 I'm sorry. I had to take my dad, who uh. 18 00:01:22.319 --> 00:01:24.319 As you guys know, he suffered a little bit from dementia, 19 00:01:24.359 --> 00:01:26.000 So I don't know how many games I have kind 20 00:01:26.000 --> 00:01:26.560 of went with him. 21 00:01:26.599 --> 00:01:27.760 So what game do you go to? 22 00:01:27.799 --> 00:01:28.359 A Yankee game? 23 00:01:29.000 --> 00:01:31.120 The Yankees were in town when they got swept along 24 00:01:31.159 --> 00:01:35.000 by the Marlins right first time, when the franchise history 25 00:01:35.000 --> 00:01:35.519 beat him up. 26 00:01:35.519 --> 00:01:38.560 I was like, Oh yeah, I just just tell me 27 00:01:38.599 --> 00:01:40.040 the Yankees won. Maybe you won't not. 28 00:01:40.560 --> 00:01:42.560 Yeah, he was, he's. 29 00:01:42.400 --> 00:01:46.920 Still he's not that bad. I'm just saying, you don't. 30 00:01:46.760 --> 00:01:47.920 Know, but it's legit. 31 00:01:49.159 --> 00:01:51.280 A big line. You're talking to Gonzo, you know what 32 00:01:51.280 --> 00:01:51.599 I mean? 33 00:01:51.640 --> 00:01:54.280 Like what that was a good turn. 34 00:01:54.359 --> 00:01:58.319 Now you know who turned out Bob Morris Captain Rescue one, 35 00:01:59.359 --> 00:02:00.200 Captain twenty. 36 00:02:00.200 --> 00:02:03.719 Truck another another for the fourth annual Perfect weather again, 37 00:02:04.040 --> 00:02:05.120 I mean perfect You. 38 00:02:05.640 --> 00:02:08.120 Remember last year's debacle and it turned out to be beautiful. 39 00:02:09.120 --> 00:02:10.159 Evans opened up. 40 00:02:10.159 --> 00:02:14.759 And then all of a sudden the rainbows came out 41 00:02:14.639 --> 00:02:17.599 with Morris. Broke said he might he might even be 42 00:02:17.639 --> 00:02:19.479 interested in doing the show. It's such a good time. 43 00:02:19.560 --> 00:02:23.120 So he actually, Frank Someton sent me a good pictures. 44 00:02:23.120 --> 00:02:25.719 It looks like you get. I think it's Tilly Ronnie, 45 00:02:26.080 --> 00:02:27.479 a bunch of guys with cruise on it. I could 46 00:02:27.479 --> 00:02:30.680 pull up. There's a female and I don't know who 47 00:02:30.719 --> 00:02:31.039 this is. 48 00:02:31.120 --> 00:02:33.919 Let me say, I'm gonna see that. 49 00:02:33.719 --> 00:02:34.400 That's my daughter. 50 00:02:34.919 --> 00:02:37.400 Oh that god, Well there you go. 51 00:02:37.560 --> 00:02:41.000 Old rookie family came was beautiful girls in a bit. 52 00:02:41.639 --> 00:02:42.840 All right, Well, then there you go. 53 00:02:43.000 --> 00:02:43.360 All right. 54 00:02:44.199 --> 00:02:45.360 He looks like Tilly a little bit. 55 00:02:46.240 --> 00:02:48.560 We're gonna play the membership We just Louis and I 56 00:02:48.919 --> 00:02:50.879 Louis did, and I just I'm gonna say that Louise 57 00:02:50.919 --> 00:02:51.280 said it. 58 00:02:51.719 --> 00:02:51.840 Uh. 59 00:02:52.159 --> 00:02:57.039 We're gonna randomly draw two members from the Love the Idea, 60 00:02:57.240 --> 00:02:59.879 two members and then getting a special invite to the boat. 61 00:03:00.680 --> 00:03:02.360 We're gonna put it in some kind of program and 62 00:03:02.400 --> 00:03:05.159 it kicks your name out. We're gonna get two guys 63 00:03:05.240 --> 00:03:07.080 and they're gonna go on the boat cruise next year. 64 00:03:07.120 --> 00:03:09.439 So I actually I will get with my niece who 65 00:03:09.439 --> 00:03:13.120 does thirsty bartenders little plug. Yeah, uh, well has a 66 00:03:13.159 --> 00:03:15.439 system that can draw us those nice little names. Oh, 67 00:03:16.120 --> 00:03:17.000 we'll add to that. 68 00:03:17.520 --> 00:03:17.960 All right. 69 00:03:18.960 --> 00:03:19.240 Cool. 70 00:03:19.680 --> 00:03:22.000 I like the input, John, we got fifty. We just 71 00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:23.439 went over fifty subscribers. 72 00:03:23.520 --> 00:03:26.520 Fifty subscribers. Beautiful guys. Play a commercial really quick. 73 00:03:26.560 --> 00:03:28.000 All right, Well, you know what, let's go here we 74 00:03:28.039 --> 00:03:30.800 go looking to take your love for the fire service 75 00:03:30.879 --> 00:03:34.560 the next level. 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Call Vince today 149 00:07:55.279 --> 00:07:57.839 for a no obligation quote at nine oh eight nine 150 00:07:57.920 --> 00:08:00.000 one seven seventy six ninety seven. 151 00:08:00.079 --> 00:08:03.240 Mm hmmm. 152 00:08:03.600 --> 00:08:07.000 And you know what's great. Jimmy the Guinea actually his father, 153 00:08:07.160 --> 00:08:11.199 his Folly department bought a flooring system from Vince. We'll 154 00:08:11.240 --> 00:08:11.920 cross over there. 155 00:08:11.959 --> 00:08:14.480 You know what I'm saying, Commission, you know. 156 00:08:15.040 --> 00:08:18.199 Yeah, welcome to Chad Harriple member. 157 00:08:18.319 --> 00:08:19.319 Yeah, I just thank him. 158 00:08:19.480 --> 00:08:23.519 Also, welcome to pro Oh no he didn't sign up. Okayea, 159 00:08:23.600 --> 00:08:24.920 let's bring it. Let's bring. 160 00:08:29.040 --> 00:08:29.920 Yeah. 161 00:08:30.639 --> 00:08:35.559 Uh and uh we might have a little technical thing 162 00:08:35.600 --> 00:08:36.159 here or there. 163 00:08:36.279 --> 00:08:39.120 We're gonna work on, but just to all work out, 164 00:08:39.159 --> 00:08:39.919 so it should be good. 165 00:08:40.919 --> 00:08:42.799 I love the guys from the sixties. Bro, we're gonna 166 00:08:42.840 --> 00:08:45.399 talk about the layoffs. The boys, guys. 167 00:08:45.759 --> 00:08:47.919 Funny, laughing all the time. 168 00:08:48.639 --> 00:08:50.960 If you smile, Chief, you smile, you ready, geh me 169 00:08:51.000 --> 00:08:56.399 a smile. He's he's like, all ready, let's go, let's go, 170 00:08:57.480 --> 00:08:59.440 let's go. Yeah, let's go. 171 00:08:59.799 --> 00:09:01.039 All right, coming to the stage. 172 00:09:01.120 --> 00:09:08.159 F d n Y Battalian, Chief Tom Barton, he is 173 00:09:08.559 --> 00:09:09.639 forty years four. 174 00:09:09.759 --> 00:09:13.840 Oh, you got before we were born. I don't want 175 00:09:13.840 --> 00:09:15.200 to make it feel all cheap, but you got on 176 00:09:15.279 --> 00:09:16.399 before we were born. 177 00:09:19.440 --> 00:09:22.720 Let's get before we get lost in associate All right, 178 00:09:22.759 --> 00:09:23.159 here we go. 179 00:09:26.480 --> 00:09:30.240 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States 180 00:09:30.519 --> 00:09:34.759 of America and to the Republic, for which it stands, 181 00:09:35.639 --> 00:09:42.559 one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice. 182 00:09:42.480 --> 00:09:43.039 For all. 183 00:09:52.919 --> 00:09:56.440 Excellent day. All right, crank it up, guns. We gotta 184 00:09:56.480 --> 00:09:58.360 go a little further back today in the way back, 185 00:09:59.120 --> 00:10:02.519 way back, way back in time. 186 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:05.080 Before we even get to the job. 187 00:10:05.240 --> 00:10:07.200 I think he has a DeLorean in his driveway. Still. 188 00:10:07.240 --> 00:10:07.639 I think. 189 00:10:10.559 --> 00:10:13.759 Let's go to the early days of a Chief Thomas Martin, 190 00:10:13.879 --> 00:10:15.840 where you grew up a little about the family life, 191 00:10:15.879 --> 00:10:17.639 your dad, stuff like that. 192 00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:27.519 Yeah, yeah, Okay, where here we go? Uh? I grew 193 00:10:27.600 --> 00:10:32.240 up in East New York, Brooklyn, Wow, and uh had 194 00:10:32.240 --> 00:10:37.759 a great childhood with the Saint Malays down in Atlantic Avenue, 195 00:10:37.879 --> 00:10:43.000 Van Sickling. Your Brooklyn guys would know that. And then 196 00:10:43.000 --> 00:10:46.159 when I was twelve years old, we moved to Rockaway 197 00:10:47.639 --> 00:10:51.679 and spent ten years down in Rockaway. Uh. We we 198 00:10:51.799 --> 00:10:56.120 actually spent the summers there. We used to rent a bungalow. 199 00:10:56.840 --> 00:10:57.240 It was. 200 00:10:58.879 --> 00:11:01.639 Shay's bungalow. He was a fireman, a ninety fishery bo. 201 00:11:01.840 --> 00:11:04.919 He owned the bungalow, the set of bungalows where we lived. 202 00:11:04.960 --> 00:11:08.720 And so we used to spend our summers on the 203 00:11:08.720 --> 00:11:12.919 beach all day long, me and my two brothers for 204 00:11:13.039 --> 00:11:16.639 many years. And then in sixty two, the year and 205 00:11:16.720 --> 00:11:19.000 on a job I was still single of him with 206 00:11:19.000 --> 00:11:23.879 my folks, and we moved out the West Bowlin. And 207 00:11:26.440 --> 00:11:27.600 let's see after. 208 00:11:27.440 --> 00:11:29.720 That, howd to find the fire service chief? 209 00:11:30.519 --> 00:11:34.679 Well, it's a funny story, but it was. We have 210 00:11:34.799 --> 00:11:42.360 a relative, my maternal grandfather and if I can remember 211 00:11:42.399 --> 00:11:46.559 his name, he's my grandfather, Frank Owens. He was a 212 00:11:46.600 --> 00:11:48.919 battalion chief and I think the four to two battalion. 213 00:11:49.039 --> 00:11:53.519 He died in nineteen twenty six, so I have I 214 00:11:53.559 --> 00:11:56.399 never worked with him. I was glad to say. But 215 00:11:57.919 --> 00:12:00.559 my older brother went on the fire department nineteen sixty. 216 00:12:00.879 --> 00:12:03.840 My brother Jim went to sixty five Engine and I 217 00:12:03.879 --> 00:12:05.720 was in Well. He had gotten that in the Navy 218 00:12:05.759 --> 00:12:07.720 were not a fire department. So I was in the 219 00:12:07.799 --> 00:12:11.840 Navy and the test came. My brother fied for me 220 00:12:11.960 --> 00:12:15.200 for the test, and I had three months to go 221 00:12:15.240 --> 00:12:17.120 in the Navy, and the Navy would not give me 222 00:12:17.200 --> 00:12:19.600 leave to take the test. So I missed the tests. 223 00:12:20.080 --> 00:12:21.559 So I get out of the Navy. I go back 224 00:12:21.559 --> 00:12:24.440 to my old job. I worked at Western Union Laboratories, 225 00:12:24.759 --> 00:12:29.000 testing equipment. And I get a notice they're gonna have 226 00:12:29.000 --> 00:12:34.200 a special military exam on Chambers Street and in August 227 00:12:34.279 --> 00:12:38.879 or September. Okay, So I got down there in August, 228 00:12:39.720 --> 00:12:41.879 about fifty of us in the class. I'm sitting there 229 00:12:42.399 --> 00:12:45.519 and I said to the guy next to me, I said, 230 00:12:45.919 --> 00:12:47.840 you missed the test. He goes, yeah, yeah. I said, 231 00:12:47.960 --> 00:12:49.960 what happened to you? He said, I was in jail. 232 00:12:50.039 --> 00:12:50.960 This is in jail. 233 00:12:52.200 --> 00:12:52.399 Yeah. 234 00:12:52.440 --> 00:12:55.000 I said, what were you in jail for? He's attempted murderers. 235 00:12:55.639 --> 00:13:00.039 I said, this is the job I'm going on. I 236 00:13:00.080 --> 00:13:02.320 don't think he passed the test. I hope, but I 237 00:13:02.320 --> 00:13:03.720 don't even think he made the fire. 238 00:13:04.039 --> 00:13:05.440 So that came the Chief department. 239 00:13:05.879 --> 00:13:10.200 Yeah, whatever my mark was, they put me in the list, 240 00:13:10.279 --> 00:13:13.600 and I ended up coming on a job in August 241 00:13:13.600 --> 00:13:14.320 of sixty two. 242 00:13:15.080 --> 00:13:16.840 Was that one was that Wards Island? 243 00:13:19.000 --> 00:13:20.480 No? No, no, it was. 244 00:13:22.240 --> 00:13:25.919 Roosevelt Roosevelt Island, That's what I mean. 245 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:30.840 Yeah. So my brother was a sixty five engine at 246 00:13:30.840 --> 00:13:34.960 the time, and the guy who worked with Bill Moffatt 247 00:13:35.000 --> 00:13:38.200 is Bill Moffat's father was the captain of Engine one. 248 00:13:39.080 --> 00:13:42.600 And uh so my brother spoke the Bill, and Bill's 249 00:13:43.039 --> 00:13:48.080 spoke to his father and Yogi Bear. You remember Yogi 250 00:13:48.120 --> 00:13:51.679 Bear was running the rock back then. Yeah, you guys 251 00:13:51.720 --> 00:13:52.240 know that name. 252 00:13:52.320 --> 00:13:55.559 No, no, Yogi Bear, the bear. 253 00:13:57.919 --> 00:14:02.360 So he ended the end of training that day. This 254 00:14:02.559 --> 00:14:06.960 is Martin, come to the office. I go to the office. Yes, gee, 255 00:14:09.039 --> 00:14:12.080 you have to report today to Captain Moffort over an 256 00:14:12.120 --> 00:14:16.639 Engine one. Do you know why? So I had an idea, 257 00:14:16.679 --> 00:14:20.480 I said, no, Chief, no idea. Yeah, I think I 258 00:14:20.559 --> 00:14:24.279 know why. But anyway, so I went over there. I 259 00:14:24.320 --> 00:14:27.320 went over to one engine after the after the training tour, 260 00:14:27.919 --> 00:14:32.080 and so I get to the firehouse one in twenty four, 261 00:14:32.200 --> 00:14:34.960 which is our thirty first and seventh right to set Francis. 262 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:38.039 So summertime, the doors are up. Back in those days, 263 00:14:38.039 --> 00:14:41.440 the doors are always up on the firehouse. And so 264 00:14:41.519 --> 00:14:44.240 I get there and I see the short stocking guy 265 00:14:44.360 --> 00:14:45.960 and he says to me, hey, kid, what are you 266 00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:49.279 doing here? I said, so I have to see Captain Moffatt. 267 00:14:50.000 --> 00:14:52.960 He says, you have to see captain your approbate schoolers. Yeah, 268 00:14:53.200 --> 00:14:55.240 he says, uh, come on in the kitchen. So I 269 00:14:55.320 --> 00:14:59.120 go in the kitchen. He pops the cold and he 270 00:14:59.159 --> 00:15:05.559 goes here, No, no, no, take the beer. I'm intimidating. I 271 00:15:05.600 --> 00:15:07.200 take the beer. I started to sit at the beer 272 00:15:07.320 --> 00:15:10.240 just then engine one engine and twenty four truck pull up. 273 00:15:10.279 --> 00:15:12.480 He says to be don't let the captain see you 274 00:15:12.519 --> 00:15:18.120 with that beer. I started the. 275 00:15:18.080 --> 00:15:21.480 Fire I ended up talked about right. 276 00:15:22.159 --> 00:15:24.279 Yeah. That was John O'Boyle, who was a great guy. 277 00:15:25.200 --> 00:15:29.039 So by we finished probably school my first tour, I'm 278 00:15:29.080 --> 00:15:34.200 a day tour. I committed the firehouse and uh it 279 00:15:34.360 --> 00:15:36.240 was the always had eight groups in those days. It 280 00:15:36.360 --> 00:15:38.840 was the old group system. Three guys in the group 281 00:15:39.000 --> 00:15:42.039 and you new guy. He always worked at the captains group. 282 00:15:42.080 --> 00:15:46.120 So I command forget what day it was, but the 283 00:15:46.159 --> 00:15:48.240 Captain's work and we has a roll call and he says, 284 00:15:48.480 --> 00:15:51.440 Martin go going it was it was from the other side, 285 00:15:51.519 --> 00:15:54.240 Irish guy. He says, I'm Attin going back, and they 286 00:15:54.240 --> 00:15:56.519 get them up and clean up, clean up that mess 287 00:15:56.600 --> 00:15:59.960 back there by the radiator. Yes, captain I go by. 288 00:16:01.000 --> 00:16:04.639 His blood all over the floor, so shit, So I'm 289 00:16:04.799 --> 00:16:08.360 mopping up the blood. And Dick Travis, who was in 290 00:16:08.399 --> 00:16:11.360 Prova school with me. His first tour, he went the 291 00:16:11.399 --> 00:16:13.639 twenty four truck and his first tour was the night 292 00:16:13.720 --> 00:16:16.879 tour before me. He walks out of the kitchen. He's 293 00:16:16.919 --> 00:16:21.600 going home, Dick, What what the hell happened? Is? Oh? 294 00:16:21.879 --> 00:16:24.559 Just short stocky guys. I don't know his name, but 295 00:16:25.600 --> 00:16:27.519 he thought he was in the bathroom taking a leak 296 00:16:27.559 --> 00:16:30.600 and he fell down the pole hole. My my god, 297 00:16:31.759 --> 00:16:34.679 you know why? I fell down the pole hole and 298 00:16:34.720 --> 00:16:38.360 he factioned his skull on you're the old cast iron radiators. 299 00:16:39.000 --> 00:16:41.720 But they had to give him an emergency Trachy out. 300 00:16:41.519 --> 00:16:42.960 Of me holy shit. 301 00:16:43.559 --> 00:16:45.440 And he lived nine months later, he's back in the 302 00:16:45.440 --> 00:16:50.320 full duty. He's assigned to for twenty years an engine 303 00:16:50.360 --> 00:16:52.480 one and when he had was twenty and we had 304 00:16:52.480 --> 00:16:55.440 the ambulance in the searchlight re quarters. So the ambulance 305 00:16:55.480 --> 00:16:58.559 had two guys on duty at all times and the 306 00:16:58.559 --> 00:17:01.279 search of that one guy and ladlos old times when 307 00:17:01.279 --> 00:17:03.759 they did twenty years would switched over to either the 308 00:17:03.799 --> 00:17:07.079 searchlight or the annulalce. So he went to the animals. 309 00:17:07.359 --> 00:17:10.440 So nine months later he's back in the ambulance. He 310 00:17:10.559 --> 00:17:16.279 ended up he ended up being the what was he 311 00:17:16.359 --> 00:17:20.559 the not the matri d but the MC at my 312 00:17:20.759 --> 00:17:23.480 bachelor party a couple of years later, great guy, JOHNA. Boyle. 313 00:17:24.400 --> 00:17:28.039 So that was my start in the fire department. 314 00:17:28.720 --> 00:17:31.359 How was the city back then? Chief in nineteen sixty two? 315 00:17:31.519 --> 00:17:34.319 Was it was were they doing work? Or what were 316 00:17:34.319 --> 00:17:34.960 you doing around there? 317 00:17:35.680 --> 00:17:35.799 One? 318 00:17:35.880 --> 00:17:37.839 At that time he was doing six hundred runs a year. 319 00:17:37.880 --> 00:17:41.079 I think they're doing six thousand now. Yeah, yeah, little 320 00:17:41.359 --> 00:17:44.039 doing six hundred runs. But one thing about the six 321 00:17:44.119 --> 00:17:48.519 hundred runs, we had no force alarms. We never had 322 00:17:48.039 --> 00:17:52.400 we work something. We had the fund district in our quarters. 323 00:17:52.440 --> 00:17:57.279 We had all kinds of factories and lofts, so a 324 00:17:57.279 --> 00:18:00.400 lot of sprinkler work which were not you didn't get 325 00:18:00.440 --> 00:18:01.960 a lot of fire, but you get a lot of smoke, 326 00:18:02.000 --> 00:18:04.599 you know. It was just of course, masks were like 327 00:18:05.640 --> 00:18:08.200 not around at that time, so it was. 328 00:18:08.119 --> 00:18:13.799 A shirt and filter. Yeah, yeah, you pull the coat up. 329 00:18:14.000 --> 00:18:16.200 Yeah. 330 00:18:16.400 --> 00:18:18.759 The bay doors were all manual, right. 331 00:18:20.279 --> 00:18:24.279 Or no one Actually we had one in twenty four 332 00:18:24.359 --> 00:18:29.160 had an electric door. Really. Yeah, they did the division. 333 00:18:29.200 --> 00:18:32.839 We had the division in quarters. They had a separate quarters. 334 00:18:32.839 --> 00:18:36.599 Next to that was a manual door. So and at 335 00:18:36.599 --> 00:18:40.200 that time the division outran all the companies. They used 336 00:18:40.240 --> 00:18:41.319 to go in all the boxes. 337 00:18:41.400 --> 00:18:42.440 Is that right, division? 338 00:18:42.519 --> 00:18:45.200 Yeah, So the deputies finally got that straight back because 339 00:18:45.240 --> 00:18:49.000 you know, they don't like that ship going on. So 340 00:18:51.200 --> 00:18:54.200 I was there. I loved the place. Great guy. I 341 00:18:54.200 --> 00:18:59.599 would say at least half of my company, both companies. 342 00:19:00.400 --> 00:19:05.160 Well World War two vets guys who are in their forties. Now, 343 00:19:05.240 --> 00:19:09.920 you know, the war was fifteen years old, so at 344 00:19:10.000 --> 00:19:13.160 war had ended fifteen years ago. So word World War 345 00:19:13.200 --> 00:19:15.839 two guys. And you know you never heard any stories 346 00:19:15.880 --> 00:19:19.319 from these guys. They never talked about it. Yeah, they 347 00:19:19.400 --> 00:19:23.119 never talked about their experiences. John T. O'hagen was a 348 00:19:23.119 --> 00:19:27.000 deputy Nott corner. He jumped over Normandy. He was a paratrooper. 349 00:19:27.880 --> 00:19:29.640 And we had a guy de Lorie John de Lowry 350 00:19:29.720 --> 00:19:31.440 in the year truck. He was a little time he 351 00:19:31.519 --> 00:19:34.240 jumped in Normandy. They never they never talked about it, 352 00:19:34.680 --> 00:19:36.240 you know, talk to themselves. 353 00:19:36.279 --> 00:19:39.079 Yeah, so you went to you went to the truck 354 00:19:39.319 --> 00:19:39.960 right before. 355 00:19:40.359 --> 00:19:42.559 What happened with tra is the guy I told you 356 00:19:42.559 --> 00:19:45.720 about the first night when he came out. Uh, Dick 357 00:19:45.839 --> 00:19:48.759 was a super student and he got promoted with six 358 00:19:48.839 --> 00:19:52.480 years at a job, so uh he he knew he 359 00:19:52.519 --> 00:19:55.480 was gonna get promoted. So we we did a swap. 360 00:19:55.519 --> 00:19:57.519 He went the Engine one. I went to twenty four truck. 361 00:19:58.839 --> 00:20:01.079 And that was a nice experience. I worked with great 362 00:20:01.119 --> 00:20:05.759 guys in the twenty four truck, Ronnie Brown and all 363 00:20:05.839 --> 00:20:10.359 the crudding. Just a lot of great person out we had. 364 00:20:10.359 --> 00:20:13.720 We had some asshole bosses and we had some great bosses, 365 00:20:13.759 --> 00:20:16.960 so it worked both ways. We had one guy, and 366 00:20:17.000 --> 00:20:19.680 I won't mention his name, he was. He was an 367 00:20:19.680 --> 00:20:23.039 office of an engine one and I was very aggressive 368 00:20:23.119 --> 00:20:24.960 as a you know, a brand new fireman of course. 369 00:20:25.880 --> 00:20:29.000 And uh, the other guy I was approbate with me. 370 00:20:29.079 --> 00:20:30.880 He was like the class ahead of me, we're both 371 00:20:30.920 --> 00:20:35.119 trobies together. Uh. The way it worked, whoever came into 372 00:20:35.119 --> 00:20:37.599 the quarters first, you put your helmet and you turn 373 00:20:37.640 --> 00:20:39.880 our coat on a nozzle that means that meant you 374 00:20:39.880 --> 00:20:42.640 had the nozzle for the tour. So we would always 375 00:20:42.680 --> 00:20:44.480 try and beat each other in to get the nozzle. 376 00:20:44.960 --> 00:20:51.559 And it turns out that he ended up he ended 377 00:20:51.599 --> 00:20:54.119 up getting to be a lieutenant and engine five to 378 00:20:54.200 --> 00:20:58.880 three up in Harlem. But let's see, lost by train 379 00:20:58.960 --> 00:20:59.960 of thought, where were we. 380 00:21:00.759 --> 00:21:02.359 You ride my back step back then though? 381 00:21:02.440 --> 00:21:02.599 Right? 382 00:21:03.400 --> 00:21:05.440 Was that you were riding the back step back then? 383 00:21:05.559 --> 00:21:05.680 Oh? 384 00:21:05.759 --> 00:21:05.960 Yeah? 385 00:21:06.119 --> 00:21:08.839 In fact, I was riding the hose bed because we 386 00:21:08.880 --> 00:21:11.839 had a CD pumper and room for it had room 387 00:21:11.880 --> 00:21:15.119 for four guys in the backstep. I rode in the 388 00:21:15.119 --> 00:21:18.519 hose bed and we never heard it open there. It 389 00:21:18.599 --> 00:21:21.119 was an open cab, and we had the bell right 390 00:21:21.119 --> 00:21:24.880 behind the officer, and my job was to sit in 391 00:21:24.880 --> 00:21:26.440 there the hose bed and ring the bell. 392 00:21:28.039 --> 00:21:30.440 That's crazy. I don't think we ever heard that before. 393 00:21:30.599 --> 00:21:32.599 No, no, yeah, Now, it was a room for four 394 00:21:32.640 --> 00:21:34.559 and the CD pumpers and you know they were smaller 395 00:21:34.559 --> 00:21:36.880 and narrow, so there wasn't a lot of room in 396 00:21:36.920 --> 00:21:38.720 those things. But they got us, they got us to 397 00:21:38.759 --> 00:21:40.079 the fire. You know, they worked. 398 00:21:40.400 --> 00:21:42.839 Could you like the engine of the truck at that time? Better? 399 00:21:42.920 --> 00:21:46.279 You know, what kind of work did you like better? Well? 400 00:21:46.279 --> 00:21:50.039 I love that you work. I mean, there's nothing better 401 00:21:50.039 --> 00:21:51.880 to being a nasal man first doing the job. We 402 00:21:51.920 --> 00:21:54.240 all know that that's the best. That's the best position 403 00:21:54.279 --> 00:21:57.799 there is. And I enjoyed both, you know, I enjoyed 404 00:21:57.839 --> 00:22:01.039 the excitement of even the truck you off by yourself, 405 00:22:01.200 --> 00:22:03.799 you know, a little scary in the beginning, but you 406 00:22:03.799 --> 00:22:08.839 know you learned experience. So I mean I love I 407 00:22:08.880 --> 00:22:11.880 love both. I actually loved every rank I was in. 408 00:22:12.400 --> 00:22:15.559 I mean, there's that one rank I didn't really enjoy 409 00:22:16.240 --> 00:22:18.559 the thing. The nice thing about BC when I made 410 00:22:18.599 --> 00:22:22.319 b C was back then, uh, there was no GPS's. 411 00:22:22.680 --> 00:22:24.160 I could do what I want, I could. 412 00:22:23.960 --> 00:22:24.839 Know where I want. 413 00:22:26.640 --> 00:22:27.440 Some of the benefits. 414 00:22:27.519 --> 00:22:29.400 Yes, And I was a little. 415 00:22:29.720 --> 00:22:31.000 I was a little adventuresome. 416 00:22:31.039 --> 00:22:35.240 They say, but how was the How is the kitchen 417 00:22:35.279 --> 00:22:35.960 table a baut then? 418 00:22:36.079 --> 00:22:39.839 Was it rough? Oh? Well it's always been rough. Always 419 00:22:39.839 --> 00:22:43.160 no holes Bard, as we all know, no holes. Bard. 420 00:22:43.279 --> 00:22:47.960 You know, no such thing as ethnic Uh politeness. 421 00:22:47.319 --> 00:22:49.480 Of course, political correctness. 422 00:22:50.759 --> 00:22:52.599 I mean the kitchen is we all know what the 423 00:22:52.640 --> 00:22:53.279 kitchen is. 424 00:22:53.440 --> 00:22:56.799 Brutal honesty. That's what it is. Brutal honesty. I can't 425 00:22:56.839 --> 00:22:57.200 take it. 426 00:22:57.359 --> 00:23:00.480 Get out of the kitchen. And we had a lot 427 00:23:00.519 --> 00:23:04.240 of guys. You know, we had the we had the UH, 428 00:23:04.279 --> 00:23:07.519 the the search light, the animals, and the chief and 429 00:23:07.519 --> 00:23:10.440 the aid and the two companies. So on our table, 430 00:23:10.599 --> 00:23:10.960 you know we do. 431 00:23:11.599 --> 00:23:13.319 Yeah, a lot of guys. Yeah, that's good. 432 00:23:13.880 --> 00:23:18.359 That's a funny story. This guy, Ronnie Rader, a great guy, 433 00:23:18.519 --> 00:23:22.440 the truck, great fire and so, uh the meal was 434 00:23:22.480 --> 00:23:26.240 a dollar five one night and he went bananas, jumping 435 00:23:26.319 --> 00:23:28.680 up and down. What asshole brought this meal? 436 00:23:29.079 --> 00:23:35.079 It's a red dollar, a dollar it was. 437 00:23:35.039 --> 00:23:37.319 A dollar five, and oh man, the ship hit the fan. 438 00:23:37.440 --> 00:23:40.640 He went and he was very well respected. So the 439 00:23:40.640 --> 00:23:42.960 guy that bought the meal was like, oh, I'll never 440 00:23:43.000 --> 00:23:43.559 do that again. 441 00:23:45.039 --> 00:23:47.400 What was what was your pay in nineteen sixty two? 442 00:23:47.680 --> 00:23:52.279 Well, do I remember? Is because we had deputy quarters 443 00:23:52.960 --> 00:23:58.319 and Pat Connois was the division commander and UH, on payday, 444 00:23:58.839 --> 00:24:01.960 the junior man in the company on watch would have 445 00:24:02.039 --> 00:24:05.160 to take the deputy's check, go across the street to 446 00:24:05.200 --> 00:24:08.039 the bank and cash it. So that was always me 447 00:24:08.160 --> 00:24:10.319 the junior guys. So I remember going to walking across 448 00:24:10.359 --> 00:24:13.119 the street. My take home was one hunting forty nine 449 00:24:13.160 --> 00:24:16.319 dollars every two weeks. That was my check every two weeks. 450 00:24:16.359 --> 00:24:18.400 And I remember walking across the street and I'm looking 451 00:24:18.400 --> 00:24:20.960 at his check. It was like four twenty dollars, and 452 00:24:20.960 --> 00:24:23.039 I'm thinking, what the hell does he do with all 453 00:24:23.039 --> 00:24:30.640 this money? I couldn't believe that, what. 454 00:24:30.519 --> 00:24:33.079 The hell is he doing all this money? I love it? 455 00:24:33.880 --> 00:24:36.359 Yeah, I was making a hunting forty nine dollars I want. 456 00:24:36.480 --> 00:24:38.559 I was one of the few guys in my provy 457 00:24:38.559 --> 00:24:41.200 class that actually got a raise coming on the fire department. 458 00:24:41.559 --> 00:24:43.759 Most of the guys were construction working, so they were 459 00:24:43.799 --> 00:24:46.680 taking a hit coming out of the firefarck. We were 460 00:24:46.720 --> 00:24:49.279 making out of forty eight hundred bucks a year or 461 00:24:49.279 --> 00:24:52.039 something like that. I don't know what it was. I 462 00:24:52.119 --> 00:24:55.039 was working for wester Indian Laboratories. I was making less 463 00:24:55.079 --> 00:24:57.519 than a hunting forty nine dollars every two weeks. Because 464 00:24:58.480 --> 00:25:00.759 that was a raise for me. So I was very happy. 465 00:25:01.799 --> 00:25:03.920 So let's see moving. 466 00:25:03.759 --> 00:25:06.480 On, Yeah, when did you when did you decide that 467 00:25:06.480 --> 00:25:09.319 you wanted to when when twenty six to two opened up? 468 00:25:09.319 --> 00:25:12.680 What was, Well, what happened was, uh, when I switched, 469 00:25:12.759 --> 00:25:14.680 when I went across the floor to twenty four, I 470 00:25:14.720 --> 00:25:20.160 became the uf A delegate. So we had this deputy 471 00:25:20.160 --> 00:25:25.200 in quarters, Harold Matheson, and uh, he got detailed downtown 472 00:25:25.279 --> 00:25:27.640 for the TIPS program. That's a long time ago, but 473 00:25:27.640 --> 00:25:31.680 it was. I think it was tactical information for parilous 474 00:25:31.720 --> 00:25:33.640 situations tips. 475 00:25:33.480 --> 00:25:39.680 And yeah, pos parlous I gave you a tips stay 476 00:25:39.720 --> 00:25:40.720 out of the stock bucket. 477 00:25:41.000 --> 00:25:42.599 Yeah. 478 00:25:42.799 --> 00:25:45.599 So the Vision used to carry his ship in their 479 00:25:45.599 --> 00:25:49.599 truck the Tips program, So he went he worked on 480 00:25:49.680 --> 00:25:52.000 that for a couple of months down there and now 481 00:25:52.720 --> 00:25:55.440 the division. So he made a contract while he was 482 00:25:55.480 --> 00:25:59.920 down there. And so I'm home on vacation. I get 483 00:25:59.920 --> 00:26:02.279 a call from one of the guys in the truck. Hey, 484 00:26:02.359 --> 00:26:05.960 Don Matheson just had a roll call and he said 485 00:26:05.960 --> 00:26:09.039 that on the next Tuesday, we have to move all 486 00:26:09.200 --> 00:26:11.960 the equipment off the second floor, all the lockers, everything 487 00:26:12.000 --> 00:26:15.440 off the second floor. That's why, because they're getting the 488 00:26:15.519 --> 00:26:18.359 new floor. He made some contract downtown. We're getting the 489 00:26:18.400 --> 00:26:22.160 new floor in the fireouse. Ah ship as well, let 490 00:26:22.160 --> 00:26:23.920 me call it. So I called Frank Palumbo, who was 491 00:26:23.920 --> 00:26:26.920 a VP in the UFA. Then, so I called Frank 492 00:26:26.960 --> 00:26:29.079 and I tell him the story. Calls me back a 493 00:26:29.079 --> 00:26:32.119 few minutes there he goes, no, good, we don't touch 494 00:26:32.200 --> 00:26:34.519 it's in the contract. We do not touch any equipment. 495 00:26:34.680 --> 00:26:37.240 Blah blah blah. You don't have to worry about it. 496 00:26:37.200 --> 00:26:40.599 It's okay. So I go go into the fireouse. I'm 497 00:26:40.640 --> 00:26:42.960 on vacation. I go in, I type up a note, 498 00:26:43.160 --> 00:26:45.240 put it on the union board. 499 00:26:46.440 --> 00:26:47.880 Nobody touch any equipment. 500 00:26:48.079 --> 00:26:51.079 As for the contract, you don't. We don't move any equipment. 501 00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:54.960 He comes into work and he sees the boat on 502 00:26:55.000 --> 00:26:59.839 the board. My name's on it, Martin. What the hell 503 00:26:59.880 --> 00:27:02.920 is that? So now he has he has another roll 504 00:27:03.039 --> 00:27:05.920 call and he says to the guys, if you don't 505 00:27:05.960 --> 00:27:09.519 move the equipment, you know he's mutuals. Mutuals are privilege, 506 00:27:10.000 --> 00:27:12.680 So if you don't move the equipment, you can forget 507 00:27:12.720 --> 00:27:15.200 about the privilege. So of course I get another phone call. 508 00:27:16.079 --> 00:27:18.640 I call him Palumbo again. It's here's what he'sa no, 509 00:27:18.799 --> 00:27:22.079 no mutuals if they don't move the equipment. Plumbo calls 510 00:27:22.119 --> 00:27:24.960 the UFO A, the UFO A and it gets it. 511 00:27:25.319 --> 00:27:28.319 I don't know who it was. Calls Matthison, and says, 512 00:27:28.400 --> 00:27:31.720 knock off this ship. That's not gonna work. So you 513 00:27:31.799 --> 00:27:36.160 can't do it. They get mutuals stopped the bullshit. I 514 00:27:36.240 --> 00:27:41.279 commit the quarters. He's oh, he's pest man. He he 515 00:27:41.359 --> 00:27:43.319 wants to get me. By the way, he was he 516 00:27:43.400 --> 00:27:47.359 was a National Guard. He was a lieutenant colonel a 517 00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:51.039 National Guard. Well he thought he was in the National 518 00:27:51.079 --> 00:27:52.319 God when he was in the firehouse. 519 00:27:52.319 --> 00:27:53.200 That was the party. 520 00:27:54.519 --> 00:27:57.640 I committed the firehouse and I'm on watch, and uh 521 00:27:57.680 --> 00:28:00.920 and I'm thirty first shooting on watch. We always wore 522 00:28:00.920 --> 00:28:03.480 to tie the jacket. He wore the hat unless you 523 00:28:03.559 --> 00:28:05.519 had the name plate. You can you can leave the 524 00:28:05.559 --> 00:28:08.079 hat up. All the rules. So I'm sitting at the 525 00:28:08.119 --> 00:28:11.079 desk at the house watch. We got a covered lieutenant, 526 00:28:11.640 --> 00:28:13.880 a little skinny guy and over again. He came from 527 00:28:13.880 --> 00:28:16.480 a busy company in Brooklyn and he's like a brand 528 00:28:16.519 --> 00:28:20.000 new lieutenant. So mattheson they went out on the run. 529 00:28:20.119 --> 00:28:21.640 So he goes out on the run. I have to 530 00:28:21.720 --> 00:28:25.519 raise the door. When I raised the door, my pants 531 00:28:25.519 --> 00:28:28.000 go up. I had dark green socks on it. So 532 00:28:28.119 --> 00:28:30.920 Matthews is the seasons and now he comes back from 533 00:28:30.920 --> 00:28:34.359 the run. No, I raised the door I'm sitting at 534 00:28:34.400 --> 00:28:37.880 the desk. He comes around. He goes, Martin, stand up, Yes, gee, 535 00:28:38.640 --> 00:28:40.319 what color socks do you have on it? So I 536 00:28:40.359 --> 00:28:45.160 knew dark green. Lea's get your officer down there. So 537 00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:47.200 we had the poll hole right at the house. Watch. 538 00:28:47.240 --> 00:28:50.039 I tap on the pall and say, look, the deputy 539 00:28:50.039 --> 00:28:53.799 wants to see it. So he slices the pall. He's 540 00:28:53.799 --> 00:28:59.279 a brand new lieutenant. You see, he's nervous. So Matthews says, 541 00:28:59.640 --> 00:29:03.240 you see this man's room. Is he in the proper uniform? Again? 542 00:29:03.480 --> 00:29:05.480 So where this guy came from, they must have all 543 00:29:05.559 --> 00:29:08.759 dressed like shit because he looked at me. He goes, oh, yes, sorry, 544 00:29:09.279 --> 00:29:12.240 look at it, look at it. Just look at his socks. 545 00:29:12.759 --> 00:29:15.200 This the socks stick. So I pull up my pants. 546 00:29:15.279 --> 00:29:19.079 He goes, he's dark green socks. Hook him up. Well, 547 00:29:19.079 --> 00:29:22.079 the guy almost had a heart attack on hook him up. 548 00:29:22.119 --> 00:29:24.440 I mean, this is like so hook him up for socks. 549 00:29:24.440 --> 00:29:28.880 It sounds familiar. I didn't go very far. 550 00:29:29.640 --> 00:29:31.920 He says, right away, you got three late watches, and 551 00:29:31.960 --> 00:29:34.839 then I'll figure out what we're gonna do after this. Okay, geez, 552 00:29:36.000 --> 00:29:38.920 the next tour, I get on the train. I was 553 00:29:38.920 --> 00:29:40.880 taking the train, lived in West Bamlo, was taking the 554 00:29:40.920 --> 00:29:44.480 train after West Bamlin and a good friend of mine, 555 00:29:44.519 --> 00:29:46.880 Ray Brown, who had been a firefighter at Rescue One 556 00:29:47.559 --> 00:29:49.960 where my brother was sixty five, was in with Rescue 557 00:29:49.960 --> 00:29:52.799 one then, and so I knew Ray quite a while, 558 00:29:53.160 --> 00:29:56.960 and I'm telling them the story about Mattheson. So Ray 559 00:29:57.039 --> 00:29:59.160 had just got a sign. They had just formed the 560 00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:03.359 second sectionwenty six to two. So raised in ten twenty 561 00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:05.720 six two. Me, you think you might want to come 562 00:30:05.759 --> 00:30:09.400 up to home. Wow, I says, shit, I don't know, 563 00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:12.319 let me think about it. So I go home. I 564 00:30:12.319 --> 00:30:14.680 said to my wife, here's the story. She said, whoa, 565 00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:18.039 it's up to you you. I called Ray that night 566 00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:20.960 at ten o'clock. That was a Tuesday Thursday. I was 567 00:30:20.960 --> 00:30:21.960 in twenty six too. 568 00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:22.599 Wow. 569 00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:25.480 There was no paperwork because what happened was when they 570 00:30:25.519 --> 00:30:28.920 formed the second sections, the captains dumped all the guys 571 00:30:28.920 --> 00:30:31.759 that didn't want just got real. So there were a 572 00:30:31.839 --> 00:30:35.039 lot of guys in those second sections that didn't want 573 00:30:35.039 --> 00:30:38.519 to be there. So the policy was body for a body. 574 00:30:39.000 --> 00:30:41.519 If you could get somebody coming in, somebody could leave. 575 00:30:42.279 --> 00:30:45.039 So this guy who was the Statin Island guy, he 576 00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:48.640 wanted out bed and I want to live, so bingo, 577 00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:51.519 it just did the swap. So I said yes. On 578 00:30:51.599 --> 00:30:54.920 Tuesday Thursday, I was now a member of twenty six 579 00:30:54.920 --> 00:30:55.119 to two. 580 00:30:55.839 --> 00:30:57.039 Always that the worst. 581 00:30:57.160 --> 00:31:00.319 About a week later, where's Martin Martin? 582 00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:03.720 He hasn't gone, Oh my god, he must have been. 583 00:31:04.480 --> 00:31:06.759 And Martin told and mart said, to give you this. 584 00:31:09.119 --> 00:31:12.720 I'm France forward about about five years. So about that 585 00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:15.359 was like sixty beginning of sixty nine. So I got 586 00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:21.279 promoted seventy three. I'm a cover lieutenant No. Eighty five engines. 587 00:31:20.960 --> 00:31:22.880 And run into this guy again. 588 00:31:23.400 --> 00:31:27.279 So there's no cellar in the tin house. So the 589 00:31:27.319 --> 00:31:29.680 only place the boys can have an adult coverage in 590 00:31:29.720 --> 00:31:33.440 the kitchen. So I am being a good boy and 591 00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:36.039 I'm on the app breass Well, I'm looking at the window, 592 00:31:36.119 --> 00:31:38.079 which is like I told us, so it's shitty app. 593 00:31:39.160 --> 00:31:41.200 I'm just looking at the window. Boys are in the back, 594 00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:44.480 and all of a sudden, this red car pulls up 595 00:31:44.519 --> 00:31:47.400 on the on the on the apron and said, you know, 596 00:31:47.400 --> 00:31:50.200 it doesn't look like a battalion car or a division car. 597 00:31:52.359 --> 00:31:54.799 Door opens up its mapes and he's now a staf chief. 598 00:31:55.240 --> 00:31:56.720 I've seen this guy. 599 00:31:57.000 --> 00:32:02.279 Since he was five years but he remembered you. 600 00:32:02.880 --> 00:32:06.440 In the back. I'm dead. I'm dead. So he stops 601 00:32:06.440 --> 00:32:09.839 walking towards the firehouse. His aid gets out of the 602 00:32:09.880 --> 00:32:13.480 car and I see his age. Mattheson turns around. He 603 00:32:13.480 --> 00:32:15.480 goes back to the car, and the car leaves. He 604 00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:17.559 goes to a third lam in the Bronx takes his 605 00:32:17.640 --> 00:32:19.319 three corner dive. He's out of a jug. 606 00:32:23.119 --> 00:32:23.720 That's good. 607 00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:26.039 You never had to deal with you would have you 608 00:32:26.079 --> 00:32:27.880 wouldn't have been able to beat him downstairs. 609 00:32:27.920 --> 00:32:30.960 Probably another thing Martin. 610 00:32:33.759 --> 00:32:36.039 Up twenty six too, And. 611 00:32:38.359 --> 00:32:40.720 What was that like, Chief Pawan? What was that like 612 00:32:40.720 --> 00:32:45.079 like the first tour? Was it like a huge like? Well, 613 00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:48.200 change obviously was a big change, right, I mean these guys. 614 00:32:48.599 --> 00:32:50.160 Here were all these I mean, he's some of these 615 00:32:50.160 --> 00:32:53.200 guys are legends. You know, twenty six truck. I'm coming 616 00:32:53.200 --> 00:32:55.880 from one engine doing six on the runs a year, right, 617 00:32:55.960 --> 00:32:59.039 I mean I've been the fires, but you know nothing 618 00:32:59.119 --> 00:33:01.400 like what these guys are doing. So I was nervous. 619 00:33:02.200 --> 00:33:04.319 Ray Brown was my boss, which was great. He was 620 00:33:04.319 --> 00:33:08.200 a gray Brown was a fabulous fire officer, a great person, 621 00:33:08.240 --> 00:33:14.960 but a fabulous fire officer. So, uh so the first tour. 622 00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:18.720 We we right, we got a job. So of course 623 00:33:18.759 --> 00:33:22.359 we got a job. So Ray giving me the outside vent. 624 00:33:23.119 --> 00:33:27.640 So we we had a rear mount. So the rear 625 00:33:27.720 --> 00:33:29.960 mount the hooks were. We had tubes in the back 626 00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:31.880 and the hooks were in the back. So I jump 627 00:33:31.960 --> 00:33:35.519 off the rag. I'm a aggressive. I grabbed a hook, 628 00:33:36.640 --> 00:33:38.799 start running for the building. I go around the back, 629 00:33:38.839 --> 00:33:40.319 going to go up the river. I'm going with the fire. 630 00:33:40.640 --> 00:33:42.759 I'm having to jump. I got a ten foot hook. 631 00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:48.440 I just grabbed the hook trying to go around the bed. 632 00:33:48.440 --> 00:33:50.599 They got a ten foot hooks. Oh, man, if the 633 00:33:50.640 --> 00:33:55.759 guys can you imagine I got to do with that. 634 00:33:55.839 --> 00:34:00.960 But having Ray as as a boss with thoughts he had, 635 00:34:01.240 --> 00:34:03.279 he had I think three sons in the job. 636 00:34:03.759 --> 00:34:07.519 Really, but just how much work were they doing? Like 637 00:34:07.599 --> 00:34:10.199 a ton of work? Were they going, Oh, we're. 638 00:34:09.960 --> 00:34:12.280 Doing tom We're doing but we're doing I don't know 639 00:34:12.280 --> 00:34:14.199 what the numbers will be, three, five or six grand 640 00:34:14.199 --> 00:34:16.480 a year. Yeah, it was busy as hell. I mean 641 00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:18.280 we were doing thirty ones on the night to us 642 00:34:18.320 --> 00:34:19.400 sometimes cheap. 643 00:34:19.480 --> 00:34:21.880 We messed this guys with one O three and one 644 00:34:21.880 --> 00:34:25.519 O three two. How are the guys from twenty six trucks. 645 00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:27.159 They didn't do near the work that we did. 646 00:34:28.159 --> 00:34:33.840 Really, I'm saying, did you guys? 647 00:34:34.079 --> 00:34:36.320 There was a little animosity in one O three in 648 00:34:36.360 --> 00:34:38.480 one O three two, like did you have the same thing? 649 00:34:38.840 --> 00:34:42.079 I tell you the truth, there was none. We got 650 00:34:42.119 --> 00:34:44.719 along like we've been there for a hundred years together. 651 00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:47.840 I mean, I'm not kidding. With the engine and the 652 00:34:47.880 --> 00:34:53.400 two trucks, we got along great. John o'reagan was the 653 00:34:53.400 --> 00:34:56.159 captain of twenty six truck. He was not happy that 654 00:34:56.199 --> 00:35:00.000 we would add because John, who was also a fabulous firefighter, 655 00:35:01.239 --> 00:35:03.639 twenty six trucks his baby. So when they made the 656 00:35:03.679 --> 00:35:04.400 second section. 657 00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:06.239 You're taking some work, right, you're taking a little bit 658 00:35:06.239 --> 00:35:06.480 of work. 659 00:35:06.559 --> 00:35:09.679 Yeah, sure, Yeah, he was not happy. But didn't he 660 00:35:09.719 --> 00:35:12.639 write it? Didn't he write ladders? John latter three? He 661 00:35:12.719 --> 00:35:15.159 wrote Lattice three with another guy. Yeah, and I'm gonna 662 00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:18.119 tell you Lattice three. If you ever look at the 663 00:35:18.119 --> 00:35:19.440 original Lattice three. 664 00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:22.440 Back then there were there was a lot of companies 665 00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:27.639 being sent up relocating and guys changing young offices, and 666 00:35:28.039 --> 00:35:31.320 like then you know what's what's going on. He'd have 667 00:35:31.440 --> 00:35:33.920 copies of Lattice three for every company to come up there. 668 00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:36.599 Take a look at this rip and because if you 669 00:35:36.679 --> 00:35:40.920 followed Lattice three, it was very it was very good. Neeah, 670 00:35:41.559 --> 00:35:43.719 it was a great It was a great book. It 671 00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:48.920 really was, in fact the funny story. Years later on 672 00:35:48.960 --> 00:35:54.159 Lieutenant nineteen and I sent an addendum in oh ship, 673 00:35:54.199 --> 00:35:56.119 I'm trying to think the name of the guy. He 674 00:35:56.159 --> 00:35:59.000 was the commissioner and he had been a black guy. 675 00:35:59.079 --> 00:36:03.880 That was a great guy. Husakman. Yeah, that's very good, 676 00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:16.880 said at the top at a top floor fire, there's 677 00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:21.519 no need for the officer and force ABLEPY team to 678 00:36:21.519 --> 00:36:24.679 go to the roof because the roofman are experienced, and 679 00:36:25.199 --> 00:36:26.519 what are they going to do on the roof the 680 00:36:26.519 --> 00:36:29.199 guys at the swords and the access there. So I 681 00:36:29.239 --> 00:36:31.840 said they should go to the top floor, especially in 682 00:36:31.880 --> 00:36:34.880 the age type, because you have a lot of apartments, 683 00:36:35.480 --> 00:36:37.920 and that way you get two teams at their thirst. 684 00:36:38.599 --> 00:36:41.400 And I said, if you first do you don't take 685 00:36:41.440 --> 00:36:44.880 a mask because there's no time. They put this in 686 00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:48.920 the book of rules exactly verbatim, just like that. Do 687 00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:51.199 you imagine that today you don't need a mask? 688 00:36:51.800 --> 00:36:56.280 Yeah, the mask, so bunk is optional. 689 00:36:57.239 --> 00:36:59.519 Comes down to the department order, you know. Blah blah, 690 00:36:59.679 --> 00:37:02.320 doesn't mention my name, just as a change change in 691 00:37:02.400 --> 00:37:05.000 Ladder street. So Red knew he was the chief and 692 00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:11.079 he loved battalion. Now Jesus, and who the hell is 693 00:37:11.199 --> 00:37:14.039 changing my ladder three? So he makes some require he 694 00:37:14.159 --> 00:37:19.159 finds out me. So he calls me up. He's a uh, hey, 695 00:37:19.239 --> 00:37:22.239 Tomas is Chief Oreagan. I said, oh, hi, Chief, I don't, 696 00:37:22.760 --> 00:37:28.239 He goes, Did you send it in addendum right away? Oh? Ship, 697 00:37:28.800 --> 00:37:31.840 I said, I did, Chief, And I should have called 698 00:37:31.880 --> 00:37:39.840 you first, your goddamn right. He was pissed, Oh he was, 699 00:37:40.400 --> 00:37:42.440 But we end up as friends later on. He was 700 00:37:42.440 --> 00:37:45.280 he was John was a good guy. Uh, of course 701 00:37:45.320 --> 00:37:46.039 that's all changed. 702 00:37:46.239 --> 00:37:46.760 They mustn't. 703 00:37:47.519 --> 00:37:49.480 Somebody woke up with day He said, what are your nuts? 704 00:37:50.079 --> 00:37:52.599 Tell guys don't take a scot you know? Yeah? 705 00:37:52.679 --> 00:37:56.719 Yeah, yeah, Well Chief, what was it like? Uh? In 706 00:37:56.760 --> 00:37:59.320 the firehouse? How did you guys like? 707 00:37:59.400 --> 00:37:59.599 Where? 708 00:37:59.639 --> 00:38:02.159 Where were you were? You were behind the truck that 709 00:38:02.199 --> 00:38:03.519 you were behind twenty six where? 710 00:38:03.679 --> 00:38:07.519 Yeah, it is the way it worked. Uh, but Monday 711 00:38:08.079 --> 00:38:10.000 a lot of twes six would be in front, we'd 712 00:38:10.079 --> 00:38:11.159 be beyond Tuesday. 713 00:38:11.599 --> 00:38:12.519 Was no shit. 714 00:38:12.760 --> 00:38:14.480 Really, that's the way he did it and and the 715 00:38:14.519 --> 00:38:16.800 way it worked was if it was the first do box, 716 00:38:17.320 --> 00:38:21.199 both companies went. If it was second due the company 717 00:38:21.400 --> 00:38:23.719 was the lead company, that was your first, you go 718 00:38:23.920 --> 00:38:25.599 and the other guy stayed back. That's the way they 719 00:38:25.599 --> 00:38:29.400 worked it. That was a good system. 720 00:38:30.559 --> 00:38:32.559 You have all that work in the projects too, like 721 00:38:32.599 --> 00:38:34.039 great dad and you always I mean, were you in 722 00:38:34.079 --> 00:38:34.480 the project? 723 00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:36.840 I tell you we had very little work in the projects. 724 00:38:36.960 --> 00:38:38.519 Yeah, you know, we get. 725 00:38:38.360 --> 00:38:41.599 The incinerators once in a while. When I was in nineteen, 726 00:38:41.639 --> 00:38:44.880 we have a lot more of that ship on on 727 00:38:44.960 --> 00:38:48.360 Webstern Avenue with the projects with the incinerators that much. 728 00:38:48.480 --> 00:38:51.320 And we were surrounded by project buildings. 729 00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:52.920 In twenty six but yeah, right, right. 730 00:38:52.840 --> 00:38:54.480 We didn't We didn't have but we didn't We didn't 731 00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:56.480 have much of that stuff. Now we had a lot 732 00:38:56.480 --> 00:38:58.480 of good work, of course, but we didn't have that. 733 00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:02.239 So what year is this? What were you too? 734 00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:03.960 You're six seventy three? 735 00:39:04.719 --> 00:39:07.400 Right, Yeah, I got promoted in seventy three in lieutenant. 736 00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:10.039 When did they start talking about the layoffs? 737 00:39:10.679 --> 00:39:14.159 The first heard the layoffs started in the seventy five 738 00:39:14.679 --> 00:39:18.239 Oh okay, yeah, so I was there about two years 739 00:39:18.320 --> 00:39:22.519 in nineteen when the layoffs started, and that was terrible times. 740 00:39:22.639 --> 00:39:26.079 I mean some guys get laid off over a year. 741 00:39:26.360 --> 00:39:29.880 Some guys get laid off. I think my brother. But 742 00:39:30.159 --> 00:39:32.480 my brother lives with me. He was easy retired five musher. 743 00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:34.920 I think he get laid off for a day. He 744 00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:40.199 came on in sixty eight, my brother. But some guys 745 00:39:40.199 --> 00:39:42.400 get laid off for a long time. But what we 746 00:39:42.480 --> 00:39:45.880 had the Eminem Boys, two guys from the fifty engine 747 00:39:46.559 --> 00:39:50.760 and they started a food truck, the Eminem Boys and 748 00:39:51.079 --> 00:39:54.679 both their last name started with them and they retiring guy. 749 00:39:54.719 --> 00:39:56.559 So making Italian heroes. 750 00:39:56.760 --> 00:40:00.760 What Italian guys? Man what? It was pretty Oh yeah, 751 00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:01.400 they would do. 752 00:40:02.960 --> 00:40:05.480 And they have all the sandwiches ship made up on 753 00:40:05.559 --> 00:40:07.559 the gym, a nice sized truck and they would go 754 00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:10.000 around to the job. There's always jobs going on. They 755 00:40:10.039 --> 00:40:13.199 would just go around to the jobs with food self 756 00:40:13.239 --> 00:40:14.360 food to the guys. You know it. 757 00:40:14.360 --> 00:40:14.840 It was great. 758 00:40:15.079 --> 00:40:15.440 Wow. 759 00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:18.199 Yeah, see if you mentioned your son, I just let 760 00:40:18.239 --> 00:40:19.719 me bring this one up really quick before we get 761 00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:22.480 too far ahead. They wanted to share that with our audio. 762 00:40:22.559 --> 00:40:23.800 Yeah that's my son, Brian. 763 00:40:24.079 --> 00:40:26.760 Yeah, he got on the job right, No he was, 764 00:40:26.800 --> 00:40:27.679 He was not on a job. 765 00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:31.280 No one of your sons. My son was on the job. 766 00:40:31.440 --> 00:40:35.599 Is that other picture at Memorial Day? That's it. Yeah, 767 00:40:35.599 --> 00:40:39.000 that's my son. He was a nineteen truck. He's out 768 00:40:39.000 --> 00:40:40.840 of the job. He got hurt. He got the next 769 00:40:40.840 --> 00:40:44.239 fusion operation and he had to get in the job 770 00:40:44.280 --> 00:40:46.480 at eighteen years old. He was the last class of 771 00:40:46.559 --> 00:40:50.559 four nine to eleven. Really, and I'll tell you, I 772 00:40:50.639 --> 00:40:53.239 tell you a story about that. Pete Dancy actually saved 773 00:40:53.239 --> 00:40:59.880 my son's life. I'm at family Day, my son's brobi class, 774 00:41:00.760 --> 00:41:04.440 and People's a friend of mine on him a long time. 775 00:41:05.639 --> 00:41:08.079 So he's the chief of department at the time. And 776 00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:11.119 back then the classes were doing seven weeks in the 777 00:41:11.159 --> 00:41:14.079 Asian seven weeks in the truck while they were in school. 778 00:41:14.280 --> 00:41:16.800 Then they go back to school. So he did his 779 00:41:17.079 --> 00:41:19.639 fourteen weeks in one o five, two o nine, one 780 00:41:19.679 --> 00:41:22.239 oh five, and he loved it there. Great, you know, 781 00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:25.840 great guys over there, busy place. So he said to me, uh, 782 00:41:26.000 --> 00:41:28.880 he said, I really want to go there. He says, well, 783 00:41:29.679 --> 00:41:32.280 you know, they say you can't go to the place 784 00:41:32.519 --> 00:41:36.119 where he did your fourteen weeks. That's out. Well, I said, 785 00:41:36.400 --> 00:41:39.079 I'll talk. So I go over to People's there. You know, 786 00:41:39.079 --> 00:41:41.440 he's watching the pacifically and I tell him the story 787 00:41:41.679 --> 00:41:44.079 piece of time. I can't do it because there's four 788 00:41:44.119 --> 00:41:47.360 other chief sons in this class and everybody's gonna ask, 789 00:41:47.960 --> 00:41:51.519 you know the policy. You can't. Can't do it, Okay, 790 00:41:51.599 --> 00:41:54.840 So I go back to dumbs. It's out. So I'm 791 00:41:54.880 --> 00:41:57.280 trying to think of the name. Guy had three three 792 00:41:57.360 --> 00:42:00.679 letters to his name, big, big husky guy was He 793 00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:02.639 went to one O five because he was a PROB 794 00:42:03.039 --> 00:42:05.480 signed to the Captains Group. He was killed at nine 795 00:42:05.519 --> 00:42:09.760 to eleven. Wow. Yeah, so Pete saved my son's life. Actually, 796 00:42:09.800 --> 00:42:11.960 that's the way I always looked at it. Yes, where 797 00:42:11.960 --> 00:42:12.760 do you wind up going? 798 00:42:13.960 --> 00:42:14.199 Well? 799 00:42:15.719 --> 00:42:18.599 Put him in twenty six truck. And then he said 800 00:42:18.599 --> 00:42:20.599 to me, you know, Dad, because when we were when 801 00:42:20.639 --> 00:42:22.360 I was lieutenant there, I used to bring my kids 802 00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:23.880 in all time. They used to ride with us all 803 00:42:23.880 --> 00:42:27.079 the time, putting out rubbish. Fried He is, I really 804 00:42:27.159 --> 00:42:28.280 like to go to the nineteen truck. 805 00:42:28.400 --> 00:42:31.000 So that baby there, hot chief. 806 00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:33.039 Look at that one. Yeah, well that's what I don't think. 807 00:42:33.079 --> 00:42:34.880 Anything beats those sea grades back in the day. 808 00:42:34.960 --> 00:42:38.239 Man, I tell you, I like I like the rear amount. Man. 809 00:42:38.519 --> 00:42:41.559 I'll tell you when I went to twenty six too, 810 00:42:42.239 --> 00:42:45.159 because we were second section. They didn't. They really didn't 811 00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:48.119 treat us well, didn't they get we had the worst saws? 812 00:42:48.199 --> 00:42:51.039 All that ship they gave us. When a new saw 813 00:42:51.119 --> 00:42:52.320 came out, we got the old saw. 814 00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:59.119 Twenty fasters find twenty six. 815 00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:02.480 Yeah, we had the fifty three America of France. That's 816 00:43:02.519 --> 00:43:05.679 what we drove. I mean, it rowed great and had 817 00:43:05.719 --> 00:43:08.159 a great timetable. Man, you could throw that ladder up 818 00:43:08.760 --> 00:43:10.880 lickety split, really really good. But it was an all 819 00:43:10.960 --> 00:43:12.960 piece of shit, you know. That's that's where we were 820 00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:13.880 driving around in. 821 00:43:14.400 --> 00:43:16.440 How long the twenty six two stay in service? 822 00:43:16.960 --> 00:43:18.840 They went out of service in seventy five? 823 00:43:19.320 --> 00:43:21.639 Wow, so it was only only missed two years, you know. 824 00:43:21.719 --> 00:43:25.880 Promoted? Uh yeah, yeah, yeah. I was there beginning sixty 825 00:43:25.960 --> 00:43:29.280 nine to seventy five, seventy three, and then seventy five 826 00:43:29.320 --> 00:43:31.039 they did away with them. Yeah. 827 00:43:31.119 --> 00:43:35.039 Did when did you start studying? Chief? Well, you're always studying. 828 00:43:35.079 --> 00:43:38.880 At started studying. I've never studied in one in twenty 829 00:43:38.920 --> 00:43:43.760 four for other reasons. But you know, a little bit 830 00:43:43.800 --> 00:43:46.000 of party in time. But when I went up to 831 00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:48.159 twenty six truck, believe it or not, as busy as 832 00:43:48.159 --> 00:43:51.360 they were. Everybody in that firehouse was studying, except the 833 00:43:51.440 --> 00:43:55.719 real real old timers. They weren't studying. Everybody else was studying. 834 00:43:56.800 --> 00:43:59.000 I guess I gotta study, you know the hell. So 835 00:43:59.039 --> 00:44:03.960 I ended up I ended up sudd him. But when 836 00:44:04.039 --> 00:44:07.440 I get the nineteen, I love that so much. I 837 00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:08.719 passed up two camp sets. 838 00:44:08.840 --> 00:44:10.639 I was going to find your really. 839 00:44:11.320 --> 00:44:13.360 Jack corpor you know Jack Cork. 840 00:44:13.280 --> 00:44:14.239 Yeah, of course, yeah. 841 00:44:14.320 --> 00:44:16.360 Jack. Jack was my show for nineteen for a while, 842 00:44:16.440 --> 00:44:19.000 and he said, you you got to take that test. 843 00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:21.719 You can't keep passing it up. So I ended up 844 00:44:21.760 --> 00:44:25.199 taking a test and getting promoted in eighty one the captain. 845 00:44:25.719 --> 00:44:28.440 But how did how did you get nineteen? Were you 846 00:44:28.480 --> 00:44:29.599 bouncing around at all? 847 00:44:29.679 --> 00:44:29.760 Like? 848 00:44:30.119 --> 00:44:32.400 Yeah, I was bouncing in the sixth division. Me and 849 00:44:32.440 --> 00:44:34.519 Bobby Love. You know, you know the story you heard 850 00:44:34.639 --> 00:44:37.280 Bobby Love? No, oh Bob Love. 851 00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:40.360 He was I've heard the name. I've heard the name. 852 00:44:40.400 --> 00:44:43.000 Oh yeah, Bob Well, he was a Booklyn firefighter and 853 00:44:43.039 --> 00:44:46.360 he was in twenty six truck with me, and uh 854 00:44:46.760 --> 00:44:50.159 famous story. Bob comes into work one night, you know, 855 00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:54.519 something with the with the adult beverage, and uh there's 856 00:44:54.599 --> 00:44:57.880 load on and he said, yeah, you know what, he's 857 00:44:57.920 --> 00:45:02.239 having to make a roof rope rescue tonight. Yeah, so 858 00:45:02.760 --> 00:45:04.679 now we all go to bed. He went to sleep 859 00:45:04.679 --> 00:45:06.400 on the running board so we would miss the run. 860 00:45:06.880 --> 00:45:09.719 They got a job and he made a roof rope rescue. 861 00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:13.480 The chief space. Looking at the chief space. 862 00:45:13.400 --> 00:45:15.719 He did he did the Babe ruth he pointed out where. 863 00:45:17.760 --> 00:45:21.559 True story. Yeah, Bob was something else at a position. Bob, 864 00:45:21.599 --> 00:45:25.159 we called him. He was deware was supposed to be. 865 00:45:27.119 --> 00:45:30.199 I know guys like that, allegedly chief allegedly. I know 866 00:45:30.239 --> 00:45:30.719 if you guys. 867 00:45:31.280 --> 00:45:34.119 Yeah, he's a great guy. Bob, Yeah, a great guy. 868 00:45:34.400 --> 00:45:36.679 So we were we were lieutenants in nineteen truck hether. 869 00:45:36.719 --> 00:45:38.719 This was fun what I'm. 870 00:45:38.559 --> 00:45:39.039 Saying you had? 871 00:45:39.159 --> 00:45:41.280 How did were bouncing around like you knew you were 872 00:45:41.400 --> 00:45:43.199 going to nineteen or side of. 873 00:45:43.239 --> 00:45:47.800 The sixth division. And I was covered in eighty three 874 00:45:47.840 --> 00:45:51.280 and twenty nine. I was doing a couple of vacations there, and. 875 00:45:51.199 --> 00:45:53.760 Uh I had to be busy then, right, I had 876 00:45:53.760 --> 00:45:54.199 to be rocking. 877 00:45:54.639 --> 00:45:57.360 Yeah, they were all busy. Everybody everybody up there was 878 00:45:58.320 --> 00:46:02.199 fourteen and I mean seventeen and sixty. They were running. 879 00:46:02.559 --> 00:46:08.039 Everybody was busy. Forty one So, uh, I put a 880 00:46:08.039 --> 00:46:10.719 paper in because it was a spot gonna open Three 881 00:46:10.719 --> 00:46:13.079 spots are gonna open up. In nineteen truck. Two guys 882 00:46:14.360 --> 00:46:17.239 we're retiring, and one guy was getting promoted. So I 883 00:46:17.239 --> 00:46:18.960 had covered the and I knew that was happening. So 884 00:46:19.039 --> 00:46:21.320 I put a paper in. Bobby Loved put a paper in. 885 00:46:21.920 --> 00:46:25.920 And when I was at oys, this guy, Jack Bows, 886 00:46:26.559 --> 00:46:28.159 I got to know, so I called him up and 887 00:46:28.239 --> 00:46:29.679 so he put a paper. So the three of us 888 00:46:29.840 --> 00:46:34.159 put a paper in. And well, I'm an eighty three 889 00:46:34.159 --> 00:46:36.880 engine one day and we're going to the laundry. We're 890 00:46:36.920 --> 00:46:42.519 taking all the sheets to the laundry and woh, sirens 891 00:46:42.679 --> 00:46:46.400 looking at it's a division. We pull over the deputy. 892 00:46:47.039 --> 00:46:49.320 I can't remember his name. I was an old, rouchy guy, 893 00:46:49.400 --> 00:46:51.039 one of the old time, you know, the old school. 894 00:46:52.519 --> 00:46:56.400 He was walking up and he says, Martin, He said, 895 00:46:56.400 --> 00:46:59.559 don't you have a paper into the nineteen truck? As yes, 896 00:46:59.639 --> 00:47:03.679 she He says, you haven't got a chance to get it. 897 00:47:04.360 --> 00:47:06.639 What's the matter, he says, one of young men are 898 00:47:06.719 --> 00:47:09.119 riding the backstep not wearing a helmet. 899 00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:12.800 Oh boy, his chief, how. 900 00:47:12.679 --> 00:47:15.440 Am I supposed to see that. I'm in the front seat. 901 00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:20.280 It's your responsibility. Don't let it happen again. So the 902 00:47:20.320 --> 00:47:23.679 boys cooperated and I ended up getting nineteen truck, which 903 00:47:23.760 --> 00:47:26.920 was which is a great spot. In fact, the first 904 00:47:26.960 --> 00:47:29.800 captain there was Joe Calderrero when they had the Jennings 905 00:47:29.800 --> 00:47:34.320 Street collapse. Uh huh famous picture in WMAF all the 906 00:47:34.360 --> 00:47:36.079 rubble in the middle of the building and there's a 907 00:47:36.800 --> 00:47:41.360 leg sticking out of a boot. That was cappened Caldero. Really, 908 00:47:41.639 --> 00:47:45.920 guy Bob Piffedo was the whole interior to building collapse. 909 00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:48.960 So Bob was like on a three foot shelf against 910 00:47:48.960 --> 00:47:52.639 the wall with some other guys and they look down 911 00:47:52.679 --> 00:47:54.559 they can see the foot and it was a hose 912 00:47:54.599 --> 00:47:57.559 line that could pulled down with the collapse. So we're 913 00:47:57.599 --> 00:48:01.440 still attached upstairs here the hose and he slid three 914 00:48:01.480 --> 00:48:04.360 floors on the hose and dug him out. No ship 915 00:48:04.559 --> 00:48:10.119 got him out. So uh he can back the duty. Lah. 916 00:48:11.360 --> 00:48:13.239 I'm sure he got to Tony Bennett for that one. 917 00:48:13.760 --> 00:48:15.760 Oh yeah, it was good. It was a good one. Yeah, 918 00:48:16.079 --> 00:48:18.159 good guy. So, uh he came back the duty. But 919 00:48:18.159 --> 00:48:21.159 they wouldn't give a night. They said nineteen. He said, 920 00:48:21.199 --> 00:48:23.639 nineteen is too busy for you. So he sent him 921 00:48:23.679 --> 00:48:28.440 a fifty two truck and happy. Joe Calber a good guy. 922 00:48:29.239 --> 00:48:35.599 So how about that guy Milner? Oh, Mike, Yeah, he's 923 00:48:35.599 --> 00:48:42.159 in the chair. I see Mike every once in a while. 924 00:48:42.239 --> 00:48:44.559 He goes through a lot of fire department stuff. I yeah, 925 00:48:45.039 --> 00:48:46.960 you know, he goes to a lot of stuff. I 926 00:48:47.000 --> 00:48:49.320 see him. He went over the rescue. 927 00:48:49.400 --> 00:48:52.800 Fo Yeah, that's where I met him. Yeah, rescue four. 928 00:48:53.639 --> 00:48:55.079 Did you have to did you have to grab by 929 00:48:55.119 --> 00:48:56.920 the ear chief and bring him down the hallway, like, 930 00:48:57.480 --> 00:48:57.920 come on. 931 00:48:57.840 --> 00:48:59.000 Mike, hold off to my coat? 932 00:48:59.400 --> 00:49:01.920 Three two and rescued him a four case? 933 00:49:03.920 --> 00:49:06.440 That Mike was good. But you know, if I met 934 00:49:06.440 --> 00:49:09.000 I met that. I wanted to mention something about when 935 00:49:09.039 --> 00:49:12.440 I was an engine one. We had a lieutenant who 936 00:49:12.440 --> 00:49:17.079 had been in World War Two that something happened to us. 937 00:49:17.079 --> 00:49:22.719 Picky in World War Two. He had absolute preference for Yeah, 938 00:49:22.760 --> 00:49:25.960 but back then he got absolute preference on every test 939 00:49:26.639 --> 00:49:29.719 for his career. But he didn't want to go about lieutenant. 940 00:49:29.719 --> 00:49:33.639 He made lieutenant. He was how bad. 941 00:49:38.480 --> 00:49:40.239 Everybody say that? 942 00:49:41.880 --> 00:49:44.400 John Hart a good friend of mine. We are prograged together. 943 00:49:45.840 --> 00:49:48.400 He's a god. Rest his soul. He's gone about six 944 00:49:48.480 --> 00:49:51.559 years now. But he was very John was very aggressive. 945 00:49:51.559 --> 00:49:54.360 I was aggressive, so It was always betrue, me and him, 946 00:49:54.599 --> 00:49:58.719 and I won't mention the guy's name. Lieutenant. We get 947 00:49:58.719 --> 00:50:02.559 to the door, is the fire, obvious fire? He'd hand 948 00:50:02.599 --> 00:50:04.760 one of us to light, say take the light, do 949 00:50:04.840 --> 00:50:07.719 a good job in it. That was it. 950 00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:10.360 That's as far as listen. I guess. 951 00:50:10.360 --> 00:50:12.880 Maybe if you get bullet shot, maybe you get a 952 00:50:12.880 --> 00:50:13.400 free pass. 953 00:50:13.440 --> 00:50:13.840 I don't know. 954 00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:16.760 I said, when you get bullet shot at you, maybe 955 00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:17.639 you get a free pass. 956 00:50:17.719 --> 00:50:19.559 I don't know. Maybe you take a different, different thing. 957 00:50:19.639 --> 00:50:25.079 I don't know, with a bad pinky. 958 00:50:26.519 --> 00:50:28.320 I should have hit that picking out, you know what 959 00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:28.760 I mean. 960 00:50:29.519 --> 00:50:33.880 The door. You would have been cheap by now rough, 961 00:50:34.320 --> 00:50:38.159 I know exactly. And Chief don't ask you back then, 962 00:50:38.719 --> 00:50:39.000 we don't. 963 00:50:39.039 --> 00:50:41.440 We don't talk about this much. Did they have matrons 964 00:50:41.440 --> 00:50:44.920 in the firehouse when you go, oh yeah, oh absolutely yeah. 965 00:50:45.159 --> 00:50:48.760 The matrons back then were all widows firefighters, right that 966 00:50:48.920 --> 00:50:52.599 line of duidows. I'm someone more, I'm sure, but any 967 00:50:52.800 --> 00:50:57.440 any firefight died. His His wife was elger have a matron. 968 00:50:57.400 --> 00:50:59.079 And she would get a stipend, right, and she would 969 00:50:59.079 --> 00:51:00.679 come in and make the beds and to get but 970 00:51:00.760 --> 00:51:02.679 I forget how much the money was. It wasn't a 971 00:51:02.679 --> 00:51:03.159 lot of money. 972 00:51:03.199 --> 00:51:05.639 But they used to make the beds. I think mostly 973 00:51:05.880 --> 00:51:08.320 every day, but a lot of times we'd call up 974 00:51:08.360 --> 00:51:11.800 the matron at night. Don't come in, you know, so 975 00:51:12.239 --> 00:51:13.639 we would let them good. A lot of times they 976 00:51:13.639 --> 00:51:15.760 didn't come in then need the end. I don't think 977 00:51:16.000 --> 00:51:17.480 any of them were coming in, I think they were 978 00:51:17.519 --> 00:51:20.400 just getting the stipend. Right. They were all older women, 979 00:51:20.599 --> 00:51:22.920 you know, right, not as old as I am now, 980 00:51:23.000 --> 00:51:24.800 but they were all they were old. 981 00:51:26.840 --> 00:51:28.559 I remember my father taking me when I was a 982 00:51:28.679 --> 00:51:30.199 kid and they had a mate. They were one of 983 00:51:30.239 --> 00:51:32.119 the last companies on the job out a matron. 984 00:51:34.159 --> 00:51:37.320 Yeah, yeah, I remember about what year was at. 985 00:51:38.280 --> 00:51:41.480 I'm gonna say the eighties, early eighties. 986 00:51:41.760 --> 00:51:45.159 Yeah, still that matrons in the eighties. Yeah, she was 987 00:51:45.159 --> 00:51:46.239 the last one on the job. 988 00:51:46.280 --> 00:51:50.159 I forget what her name, okay, yeah, yeah, well I 989 00:51:50.559 --> 00:51:51.039 brought that up. 990 00:51:51.039 --> 00:51:52.599 But that was a great idea. I mean it it 991 00:51:52.679 --> 00:51:54.119 was good for them because it was money. 992 00:51:54.199 --> 00:51:58.400 You know, what was it? What was? Uh? 993 00:51:58.760 --> 00:52:01.800 What was when you first got to nineteen like, new lieutenant, 994 00:52:01.880 --> 00:52:03.000 how how did you feel? 995 00:52:03.000 --> 00:52:03.840 How are the guys? 996 00:52:03.880 --> 00:52:03.960 Like? 997 00:52:04.440 --> 00:52:07.199 I was nervous? You know the first time you're a boss, 998 00:52:07.400 --> 00:52:09.400 you know, you're nervous, and you know this is a 999 00:52:09.440 --> 00:52:13.760 busy company. It all look like an asshole. So I 1000 00:52:13.920 --> 00:52:15.800 just did my what I Loveally, do you. 1001 00:52:15.800 --> 00:52:17.800 Know you had to feel comfortable. 1002 00:52:17.880 --> 00:52:20.320 I mean, you came from twenty six over that they 1003 00:52:20.400 --> 00:52:22.559 knew that you had some experience. 1004 00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:25.920 Obviously as a supervisor. You know, it was new to me. 1005 00:52:26.480 --> 00:52:30.440 So I asked Charlie's. Bill Bodie was the chauffeur at 1006 00:52:30.440 --> 00:52:34.400 that time, my chauffeur, and we had the yell on 1007 00:52:34.440 --> 00:52:38.639 Third Avenue still and he used to get down Third 1008 00:52:38.719 --> 00:52:41.480 Avenue and you know that I'm telling you, I had 1009 00:52:41.559 --> 00:52:46.840 to change my end underwear. He was something else, Bill Bodie. 1010 00:52:47.119 --> 00:52:50.320 But I said to him, after a couple of months, 1011 00:52:50.320 --> 00:52:54.000 I say, Bill, what did they? How am I doing? 1012 00:52:55.000 --> 00:52:58.199 You just keep doing what you're doing. I took that. 1013 00:52:59.039 --> 00:53:00.000 Yeah, yeah, that's good. 1014 00:53:00.440 --> 00:53:03.840 Worked out all right. Yeah, So that was a great place. 1015 00:53:05.440 --> 00:53:07.800 You have any memorable jobs there that you remember, any 1016 00:53:07.880 --> 00:53:08.639 any jobs. 1017 00:53:08.400 --> 00:53:12.079 That you were calls? And he and he what any 1018 00:53:12.159 --> 00:53:15.400 close calls? Oh, it was a lot of close calls. Man. 1019 00:53:16.199 --> 00:53:20.639 I remember being in a vacant with the Captain of 1020 00:53:23.400 --> 00:53:26.480 He was a Captain of the nine of forty four 1021 00:53:26.519 --> 00:53:29.719 and ninety two captain of ninety two lose something. His 1022 00:53:30.559 --> 00:53:33.920 Louis Schaeffer. Louis Shaefer, his son Jimmy Shaffer became a 1023 00:53:33.960 --> 00:53:38.400 fireman in nineteen unfortunately killed in a motorcycle action. But look, 1024 00:53:38.960 --> 00:53:41.000 lou and I I don't know how we ended up 1025 00:53:41.559 --> 00:53:44.559 where both on the third floor that is vacant. There's 1026 00:53:44.559 --> 00:53:46.760 no floor. We're on the both of us are on 1027 00:53:46.800 --> 00:53:50.800 this beam and we got a line and we're putting 1028 00:53:50.840 --> 00:53:52.800 fire out and saying, look what the hell are we 1029 00:53:52.840 --> 00:53:56.280 doing here? He's a captain, Why the way the guys 1030 00:53:56.320 --> 00:53:59.639 are they certainly they were doing something, but that that 1031 00:53:59.719 --> 00:54:00.400 was the. 1032 00:54:00.119 --> 00:54:01.519 Here outside watching. 1033 00:54:05.840 --> 00:54:06.440 That much. 1034 00:54:06.480 --> 00:54:16.400 I know, take a shot man today. 1035 00:54:16.840 --> 00:54:18.679 They had a lot of projects too, right heah. 1036 00:54:18.840 --> 00:54:22.559 A funny story about We were in one hundred sixty 1037 00:54:22.559 --> 00:54:25.159 six Street in the old fire house. So they built 1038 00:54:25.159 --> 00:54:27.920 the new fireous on third Avenue, one hundred sixty seventh Street, 1039 00:54:28.679 --> 00:54:32.360 so it's ready to be occupied. They send fifty engine. 1040 00:54:32.639 --> 00:54:35.280 You guys, you go over there. So fifty engine goes 1041 00:54:36.320 --> 00:54:38.760 and they take the beer machine with them. Damn it, 1042 00:54:39.320 --> 00:54:43.599 that's bad. Beer machine's gone now. So we're in the 1043 00:54:43.639 --> 00:54:47.360 quarters with the division. So we get a job, go 1044 00:54:47.480 --> 00:54:49.639 back to the job. It's day to us. So it's 1045 00:54:49.679 --> 00:54:52.679 you know, like one o'clock in the afternoon. So we 1046 00:54:52.760 --> 00:54:54.880 get about five quarts of beer. We whoping the gold 1047 00:54:55.039 --> 00:55:00.679 gold rubles are so sitting in the gold room with them. 1048 00:55:00.920 --> 00:55:06.760 Door opens up. It's Deputy Chief Bill Burke, say, Chief's Tom. 1049 00:55:06.920 --> 00:55:10.519 There's nobody on watch, I say, Chief on on and off. 1050 00:55:12.320 --> 00:55:17.800 I'm sorry. 1051 00:55:20.239 --> 00:55:21.239 We say this all the time. 1052 00:55:21.400 --> 00:55:24.480 Like again, you know, guys say all the time, you know, 1053 00:55:24.559 --> 00:55:26.519 you shouldn't talk about drinking, you should do this and this. 1054 00:55:26.760 --> 00:55:29.840 But there's no doubt that with the amount of work 1055 00:55:29.880 --> 00:55:33.679 you guys were doing, right, that the chiefs let some 1056 00:55:33.760 --> 00:55:37.440 stuff slide, right, guys said, right, there's no doubt because 1057 00:55:37.679 --> 00:55:40.079 he could count on you guys, no matter what I mean. 1058 00:55:40.400 --> 00:55:43.280 Yeah, And the thing is, you can't you can't get 1059 00:55:43.320 --> 00:55:45.880 out of control. Once in a while, we have a 1060 00:55:45.920 --> 00:55:47.960 guy get out of control, you'd have to step on him. 1061 00:55:48.000 --> 00:55:51.239 But usually the you know, and most of the time 1062 00:55:51.280 --> 00:55:52.920 you'd be drinking and you might be having a beer 1063 00:55:53.400 --> 00:55:54.800 and you. 1064 00:55:53.840 --> 00:55:55.119 Have to run. Yeah. 1065 00:55:55.239 --> 00:55:57.079 Right, you know you're gone for an hour and a half, 1066 00:55:57.119 --> 00:56:00.480 you know, you go back and right, Yeah, but uh, 1067 00:56:00.599 --> 00:56:01.440 I mean I. 1068 00:56:01.239 --> 00:56:04.360 Didn't think that was a drinking wasn't on the regulations 1069 00:56:04.400 --> 00:56:05.679 until the seventies, right. 1070 00:56:05.880 --> 00:56:09.880 Somewhere around Nothing said about it, Yeah right, yeah, they 1071 00:56:09.880 --> 00:56:12.280 didn't mention it. And then what happened was Mike car 1072 00:56:12.519 --> 00:56:14.960 a five engine was killed. He fell off the rig 1073 00:56:15.119 --> 00:56:18.199 and he determined that he was drinking and he was killed. 1074 00:56:18.519 --> 00:56:21.320 So Hagen was the chief part, and then he might 1075 00:56:21.360 --> 00:56:23.199 have been both had the two hats on it. I 1076 00:56:23.239 --> 00:56:28.320 don't know. So he sent down the auco Yeah two 1077 00:56:28.360 --> 00:56:32.280 o two, so I was in twenty six two. Then 1078 00:56:32.639 --> 00:56:34.760 so we're in the kitchen, we're having a call. One 1079 00:56:35.480 --> 00:56:38.559 chief comes in. You say, man, I want to tell 1080 00:56:38.559 --> 00:56:43.360 you last night auc two o two came down, so 1081 00:56:44.079 --> 00:56:46.559 we don't want to see anymore beer. You got it. 1082 00:56:49.079 --> 00:56:50.119 We want to see it. 1083 00:56:50.639 --> 00:56:53.039 He just said I want to see it. So by 1084 00:56:53.039 --> 00:56:56.679 a week later, working again, we all have coke cans 1085 00:56:57.920 --> 00:57:02.119 except for one guy. So the chief comes in the 1086 00:57:02.159 --> 00:57:04.719 same guy he was into the kitchen, Wilson and Chip. 1087 00:57:05.559 --> 00:57:09.320 We're drinking out coachs and this one guy, Spooky, who 1088 00:57:09.400 --> 00:57:12.400 was just a real character. He's kind of an alphol 1089 00:57:12.480 --> 00:57:20.079 can drinking out of the alpohol can. And the chief 1090 00:57:20.159 --> 00:57:25.480 was looking at him like the son of There was 1091 00:57:25.480 --> 00:57:27.480 one bro that was Yeah, I mean they knew what 1092 00:57:27.559 --> 00:57:30.400 was going on, and lors it wasn't out of control. 1093 00:57:30.519 --> 00:57:33.559 Right, they didn't really, Yeah, I mean guys were dead. 1094 00:57:33.760 --> 00:57:37.519 Some guys were death. You couldn you couldn't touch anything, right, 1095 00:57:37.599 --> 00:57:39.880 you know, some some lieutenants. 1096 00:57:39.320 --> 00:57:44.079 And of course yeah, I mean now I don't think 1097 00:57:44.159 --> 00:57:47.480 I mean, I don't know, but obviously now you could 1098 00:57:47.519 --> 00:57:49.760 lose your job, you know what I mean, Like we're 1099 00:57:49.760 --> 00:57:52.119 not we're not we're not condoning drinking on the job. 1100 00:57:52.360 --> 00:57:54.119 We're just saying that this is what was going on 1101 00:57:54.159 --> 00:57:55.800 in nineteen seventy, for God's sake, you. 1102 00:57:55.800 --> 00:57:58.199 Know what I mean, Like, that's fifty years ago. 1103 00:57:58.280 --> 00:57:59.880 Yeah, and you would and you would, you guys would 1104 00:57:59.880 --> 00:58:02.880 do a couple of jobs tonight, you know what I mean, Like, yeah, 1105 00:58:03.320 --> 00:58:03.559 there was. 1106 00:58:03.599 --> 00:58:07.800 No bunking gear or CBA just you. 1107 00:58:07.840 --> 00:58:10.800 Know, yeah, lous, what'd you guys had your drinks? Would 1108 00:58:10.800 --> 00:58:16.239 you use? I saw I. 1109 00:58:17.760 --> 00:58:26.599 Used your old ladies underwear? All right? So you go 1110 00:58:26.760 --> 00:58:30.800 get promoted to captain now in eighty one. 1111 00:58:31.840 --> 00:58:34.079 Wow, you were nineteen a long time too, chief, Huh. 1112 00:58:34.519 --> 00:58:36.719 Yeah, Yeah, I didn't want to leave. I'll tell you 1113 00:58:36.880 --> 00:58:37.800 I did not want to leave. 1114 00:58:38.320 --> 00:58:42.239 I kept passing over the tests, buddy, you kept passing 1115 00:58:42.280 --> 00:58:44.159 over the tests, right, you want to say, yeah. 1116 00:58:44.280 --> 00:58:46.800 I passed to test. It was crazy not my ass 1117 00:58:46.800 --> 00:58:52.480 and maybe yeah. So I got voted eighty one, sent 1118 00:58:52.519 --> 00:58:56.760 me over to Brooklyn and Frank Sellin, he was the 1119 00:58:56.800 --> 00:58:58.960 captain of to sixteen at the time. I love you 1120 00:58:59.000 --> 00:59:05.840 know he ended up somewhere. So even on vacation and John, 1121 00:59:06.039 --> 00:59:08.480 I'm trying to think the damn division commander. He said, no, 1122 00:59:08.599 --> 00:59:12.559 his damn ship. Well, anyway, they put me into sixteen 1123 00:59:12.599 --> 00:59:16.119 and fill a vacation and Fellini gets promoted to battalion 1124 00:59:16.199 --> 00:59:19.119 chief on he's on vacation, so they said, you got 1125 00:59:19.119 --> 00:59:22.400 the spot. Well, there was a chief in quarters three 1126 00:59:22.480 --> 00:59:25.639 five battalion. I always had trouble with chiefs. So there's 1127 00:59:25.679 --> 00:59:29.199 a chief in the three five battalion. He'll remain nameless. 1128 00:59:30.199 --> 00:59:31.639 He was a guard in Brooklyn. He had been a 1129 00:59:31.639 --> 00:59:37.480 lieutenant one twenties guy, fabulous firefighter. However, we didn't get 1130 00:59:37.480 --> 00:59:39.559 along for In fact, when I first got there, I 1131 00:59:39.559 --> 00:59:43.280 walked in the office Chief Captain Martin Anders. Want to 1132 00:59:43.320 --> 00:59:48.360 introduce myself. I know about you, No shit, what do 1133 00:59:48.400 --> 00:59:50.039 you mean? You know? He said, you're one of the 1134 00:59:50.079 --> 00:59:53.599 good guys in the Bronx. And I said to myself, 1135 00:59:54.079 --> 00:59:55.920 they were all good guys in the Bronx. What hell 1136 00:59:56.000 --> 00:59:58.320 was he talking about? So we didn't we didn't get 1137 00:59:58.360 --> 01:00:03.199 off to a good start. So uh what happened was 1138 01:00:03.239 --> 01:00:07.559 we had a couple of incidents that just didn't sit 1139 01:00:07.639 --> 01:00:09.599 with me, and we did a couple of these together, 1140 01:00:09.639 --> 01:00:12.960 and I said, you know what, for the witness, he's 1141 01:00:13.000 --> 01:00:15.440 the chief, I'm not going to win this. So I 1142 01:00:15.480 --> 01:00:17.480 put a paper and then I went to actually a 1143 01:00:17.519 --> 01:00:22.119 funny story. I put a paper in every truck in 1144 01:00:22.199 --> 01:00:25.519 ham except fourteen truck for a friend of mine, Denny Martin, 1145 01:00:26.599 --> 01:00:28.400 was a cover camp. He was going to get the spot. 1146 01:00:29.559 --> 01:00:32.679 So who was it? Home of Bishop? 1147 01:00:32.960 --> 01:00:33.039 Was? 1148 01:00:33.079 --> 01:00:36.039 I guess he was the chief of department. Then I'm home, 1149 01:00:37.079 --> 01:00:39.239 get a call. My wife says, uh, there's a chief 1150 01:00:39.280 --> 01:00:42.039 Bishop on the phone. Somebody's breaking my balls. 1151 01:00:42.119 --> 01:00:42.280 Yeah. 1152 01:00:42.280 --> 01:00:46.000 I pick up the phone. Yeah, chief Bishop, Yeah you know. 1153 01:00:47.039 --> 01:00:59.079 Oh yeah, oh oh oh, I have a paper here. 1154 01:00:59.079 --> 01:01:01.639 You put in all these trucks in Harlem. I say yes, sir. 1155 01:01:02.480 --> 01:01:06.440 He says, would you like fourteen truck which I didn't 1156 01:01:06.440 --> 01:01:10.119 put in for I said no, no, no, a friend 1157 01:01:10.119 --> 01:01:12.760 of mine, A friend of mine. Denny Martin's going there. 1158 01:01:13.199 --> 01:01:15.519 He says, Denny Martin is not going there. Do you 1159 01:01:15.559 --> 01:01:16.719 want it? Yes or no? 1160 01:01:18.280 --> 01:01:18.599 Yes? 1161 01:01:19.239 --> 01:01:22.599 So he's okay. Click. So I call up Denny Martin. 1162 01:01:22.639 --> 01:01:24.559 All Denny, what happened? Yeah? What the hell's going on? 1163 01:01:24.559 --> 01:01:27.320 Reggie Julius was in the true Batanian you know, the 1164 01:01:27.400 --> 01:01:33.599 Jewish brothers. Reggie they've both been both been captains over 1165 01:01:33.639 --> 01:01:37.519 in Brooklyn. But Reggie was a Batan chief for the twelve. 1166 01:01:38.360 --> 01:01:41.599 So Reggie and Denny for some reason, Denny was a 1167 01:01:41.599 --> 01:01:44.039 great guy. Reggie is a great guy. They had a 1168 01:01:44.039 --> 01:01:48.960 big blowout and Reggie told Denny, you're not coming here. 1169 01:01:49.519 --> 01:01:52.119 So I go to fourteen Truck and now I'm working 1170 01:01:52.159 --> 01:01:55.920 with Reggie, who was a passer. He kept saying you 1171 01:01:56.039 --> 01:01:59.239 had a chain on him. He said, don't forget boys, 1172 01:01:59.760 --> 01:02:06.559 I'm the head, and they gat, no, you're. 1173 01:02:06.400 --> 01:02:08.679 Here, we got You're good. I have a picture of that. 1174 01:02:09.119 --> 01:02:10.000 I had the picture of you. 1175 01:02:10.320 --> 01:02:12.400 He used to say that like every tour he was. 1176 01:02:12.760 --> 01:02:13.599 He was a fun guy. 1177 01:02:13.760 --> 01:02:18.719 Is that you there on the left, that skinny guy. 1178 01:02:18.719 --> 01:02:20.920 I'm looking at a picture of fourteen truck right now? 1179 01:02:21.119 --> 01:02:21.320 Yeah? 1180 01:02:21.360 --> 01:02:22.360 Is that you're on the left. 1181 01:02:22.679 --> 01:02:24.760 Oh yeah, that's me. Yeah, that's me on the left, 1182 01:02:25.360 --> 01:02:29.360 Bill Bruce next to me. It was like a scratch 1183 01:02:29.440 --> 01:02:35.840 golfer Bruce. The third guy, Mike McMahon, he's God rest 1184 01:02:35.880 --> 01:02:40.159 his soul, very good friend of mine, your best cooking 1185 01:02:40.199 --> 01:02:44.639 the fire department, and uh that's Bruce Bruce got to 1186 01:02:44.679 --> 01:02:45.480 see it. Next to him. 1187 01:02:45.519 --> 01:02:47.000 You get the little rug roun in the background. 1188 01:02:47.000 --> 01:02:47.400 Who that. 1189 01:02:49.079 --> 01:02:53.360 What? What was it like with the hundred foot towel ladder? 1190 01:02:53.840 --> 01:02:54.000 Yeah? 1191 01:02:54.000 --> 01:02:55.840 I used to bring my kid in. Fact, Reggie and 1192 01:02:55.840 --> 01:02:59.800 I brought our kids in together. That both the kids 1193 01:02:59.840 --> 01:03:03.719 in the bucket. But the third guy there, Mike McMahon, 1194 01:03:05.320 --> 01:03:09.400 the guy two over for me too to my left. 1195 01:03:09.440 --> 01:03:12.320 Two guys over. H Mike and I were carpool when 1196 01:03:12.320 --> 01:03:14.400 I was a twenty six truck. I used to car 1197 01:03:14.480 --> 01:03:17.559 pool Mike. He was in fourteen, so we had been 1198 01:03:17.639 --> 01:03:19.119 friends for a long time. And then he ended up 1199 01:03:19.159 --> 01:03:22.440 being my shauffeur, which was great. It was a great guy. 1200 01:03:23.199 --> 01:03:25.719 And then he he could have been a chef at 1201 01:03:25.719 --> 01:03:27.960 any restaurant in Man. That and I'm like kidding, he 1202 01:03:28.159 --> 01:03:30.119 was fabulous. What are you still there? 1203 01:03:30.599 --> 01:03:30.760 Yeah? 1204 01:03:30.880 --> 01:03:31.440 Yeah, we got you. 1205 01:03:32.440 --> 01:03:33.519 Oh okay, I came back. 1206 01:03:33.639 --> 01:03:36.159 Yeah, what was it like driving around in that rig? 1207 01:03:38.159 --> 01:03:40.000 Well, you know, it was a pain, he asked, because 1208 01:03:40.239 --> 01:03:43.559 all the buffs on Saturday, the goddamn bus would pull 1209 01:03:43.639 --> 01:03:44.920 up two buses. 1210 01:03:46.360 --> 01:03:47.480 And you could get the rig out. 1211 01:03:47.599 --> 01:03:50.840 Buffs and they want said and they wanted to look 1212 01:03:51.039 --> 01:03:55.840 then this whatever. I forget what we were. Yeah, it 1213 01:03:55.880 --> 01:03:57.440 was no, it was little war was It was a 1214 01:03:57.480 --> 01:04:00.880 little different anyway. I had his own pump. 1215 01:04:01.440 --> 01:04:03.320 It was an lt I right right. 1216 01:04:03.239 --> 01:04:05.000 Yeah, the rig had its own pump on it. So 1217 01:04:05.960 --> 01:04:07.800 they get off the rig and they all of course, 1218 01:04:07.800 --> 01:04:10.760 they all bring you know, donuts and ship and all 1219 01:04:10.760 --> 01:04:13.079 that stuff. And then they would ask questions. And I 1220 01:04:13.119 --> 01:04:15.679 remember a guy company, see me, can you tell me 1221 01:04:15.760 --> 01:04:18.519 the RPMs on it? I'm looking at them. You got 1222 01:04:18.559 --> 01:04:19.199 the wrong guy. 1223 01:04:19.599 --> 01:04:21.679 I just get on the rig, bro, That's all. I was. 1224 01:04:23.679 --> 01:04:25.559 How many r pms? And that I don't give you. 1225 01:04:25.639 --> 01:04:27.320 I don't know about the rigs man. 1226 01:04:27.639 --> 01:04:30.400 That was the pain, he asked for that. They all 1227 01:04:30.400 --> 01:04:32.000 the busts are there all the time. But I mean 1228 01:04:32.039 --> 01:04:32.840 they were nice people. 1229 01:04:32.880 --> 01:04:35.880 But it easy to get through the streets with it. 1230 01:04:37.280 --> 01:04:40.480 Yeah, yeah, it was. Yeah, even though it wasn't a tiller. Yeah, 1231 01:04:40.519 --> 01:04:42.440 I mean the street. Yeah, I mean sometimes you have 1232 01:04:42.480 --> 01:04:46.239 a problem. But in fact, when I when I first 1233 01:04:46.239 --> 01:04:48.599 got the twenty six too, we had a fifty three 1234 01:04:48.639 --> 01:04:51.719 American in the France, by the way, because I had 1235 01:04:51.760 --> 01:04:55.840 seven years on the job. Then about Ray Brown, maybe 1236 01:04:55.840 --> 01:04:59.079 the the tiller man, I had never driven a tiller, 1237 01:04:59.119 --> 01:05:01.719 but he's you're the senior. I was like, for seven years, 1238 01:05:01.719 --> 01:05:05.159 I was almost a senior guy in the company. And 1239 01:05:05.440 --> 01:05:09.039 so he said, we had the crazy show for Danny Harrison. Man, 1240 01:05:09.079 --> 01:05:13.039 he's go down those side streets with all those kids. 1241 01:05:13.519 --> 01:05:16.000 And I kept thinking, God, almighty, we're going to hit somebody. 1242 01:05:16.079 --> 01:05:17.719 And all you could do is hold the week and 1243 01:05:17.800 --> 01:05:18.760 just helped me went straight. 1244 01:05:20.480 --> 01:05:21.320 I think he's a monster. 1245 01:05:21.920 --> 01:05:24.760 Oh that's a big I think that that's after I 1246 01:05:24.880 --> 01:05:26.800 was there. I think, there, that's cheek. 1247 01:05:26.840 --> 01:05:27.840 That was a single truck. 1248 01:05:28.199 --> 01:05:34.000 No, no, we had the thirty five engineer and yeah, 1249 01:05:34.039 --> 01:05:37.239 we had the trouble right on Third Avenue, right third 1250 01:05:37.639 --> 01:05:38.840 twenty fourth, yeah. 1251 01:05:38.719 --> 01:05:40.440 Right, and the single engine was around the corner or 1252 01:05:40.440 --> 01:05:40.960 something right. 1253 01:05:41.400 --> 01:05:44.920 Well, that was thirty six engine who was originally on 1254 01:05:45.079 --> 01:05:49.360 Park Avenue in a in a house that was in 1255 01:05:49.440 --> 01:05:52.119 a building that was rented by the city. They didn't 1256 01:05:52.119 --> 01:05:55.039 own it, and fourteen truck was on the twenty fifth 1257 01:05:55.039 --> 01:05:58.239 street and the old time fire house was the final staircase. 1258 01:05:59.320 --> 01:06:01.960 When they made the new fires they moved fourteen in 1259 01:06:02.039 --> 01:06:04.800 the thirty five had been on an nineteenth street by themselves, 1260 01:06:04.840 --> 01:06:07.559 so they moved the both of us together on twenty 1261 01:06:07.559 --> 01:06:10.760 fourth street, and they moved thirty six engine to the 1262 01:06:10.840 --> 01:06:15.280 quarters of one hundred twenty fifth Street because the person 1263 01:06:15.320 --> 01:06:19.199 had owned that building. The stipulation was that we could 1264 01:06:19.199 --> 01:06:22.000 stay a firehouse as long as the city could keep 1265 01:06:22.039 --> 01:06:23.880 it if they kept it to the fire house. So 1266 01:06:23.920 --> 01:06:26.239 they moved thirty six in there to keep it as 1267 01:06:26.239 --> 01:06:30.519 the fire house, and then they disbanded thirty six, which 1268 01:06:30.559 --> 01:06:33.480 I found tough to believe. There were such a great 1269 01:06:34.079 --> 01:06:36.719 such a great company. There's ex engine and man they 1270 01:06:36.760 --> 01:06:38.920 worked their rare shop back in the in the seventies. 1271 01:06:39.000 --> 01:06:41.000 But you know things happened. 1272 01:06:41.760 --> 01:06:43.800 Yeah, which which way was most of the work when 1273 01:06:43.800 --> 01:06:45.400 you were when you were when you went out, were 1274 01:06:45.400 --> 01:06:46.039 you going north? 1275 01:06:46.039 --> 01:06:48.840 Were you going west? Like where we served. 1276 01:06:48.840 --> 01:06:51.000 Most of the work was going But that going to 1277 01:06:51.400 --> 01:06:54.679 twenty six truck was first till whether the problem was 1278 01:06:55.760 --> 01:06:56.800 more trouble would achieved. 1279 01:06:57.039 --> 01:06:59.960 The problem was, I see a reccurring theme here. 1280 01:07:03.119 --> 01:07:08.239 Third Avenue goes north, but all of most of our 1281 01:07:08.320 --> 01:07:11.159 boxes we had to go south. So be in a 1282 01:07:11.159 --> 01:07:13.880 former number twenty six. I didn't want twenty six truck 1283 01:07:14.320 --> 01:07:17.639 to beat me in. So when I went out the door, 1284 01:07:17.800 --> 01:07:21.559 I Charles Trump, right, we'll go pat you on track. 1285 01:07:21.599 --> 01:07:22.679 We'll just get the traffic out. 1286 01:07:22.599 --> 01:07:24.119 Of the way, which yeah, yeah, yeah. 1287 01:07:24.159 --> 01:07:30.480 So there's one chief we call a toothpick. He says, 1288 01:07:31.039 --> 01:07:35.960 you cannot go against traffic that's out. Well I don't saying. 1289 01:07:36.199 --> 01:07:39.719 So he's working, I'm working. We get to run rapped up, 1290 01:07:39.800 --> 01:07:43.280 he said. The mics go right, So now we're going down. 1291 01:07:43.280 --> 01:07:45.119 We get a man down to about one hundred and 1292 01:07:45.159 --> 01:07:48.159 fifteenth Street and here's the chief out in the moon. 1293 01:07:52.760 --> 01:07:54.760 I got the fire were supposed to wear the boxes 1294 01:07:54.800 --> 01:07:58.039 like on the street. We'll just stop, Mike stop. We stopped. Chief. 1295 01:07:58.039 --> 01:08:01.440 Where's the fire? He says, are you going against? I? 1296 01:08:01.599 --> 01:08:05.079 Just where's the fire? Are you going? My goats? So 1297 01:08:05.559 --> 01:08:08.559 we take off. He's standing like. So now we come 1298 01:08:08.599 --> 01:08:12.199 back and uh so the engine knew what was going on. 1299 01:08:12.320 --> 01:08:15.239 So they're backing quarters. They're all around the house. Wats desk. 1300 01:08:16.039 --> 01:08:22.159 We pull up. He's out on the sidewalk. Wait. So 1301 01:08:22.680 --> 01:08:26.159 I get up the ring. I walk over and he says, 1302 01:08:26.560 --> 01:08:29.760 A Martin is a chief when I'm going to a fire, 1303 01:08:30.479 --> 01:08:33.520 don't ever stop me like that again. And I walked 1304 01:08:33.520 --> 01:08:35.319 past her. It was like, whoa. 1305 01:08:36.680 --> 01:08:39.119 It almost sounds like somebody's finger poking somebody. 1306 01:08:40.960 --> 01:08:44.359 I thought this, you know, I thought this hallm thing 1307 01:08:44.399 --> 01:08:46.199 in the Bronx. You know, I thought everything was like 1308 01:08:46.279 --> 01:08:48.319 honey Dory up there. I don't know what's happening with 1309 01:08:48.319 --> 01:08:50.119 these chiefs over there. I don't know what's going on. 1310 01:08:50.159 --> 01:08:50.880 I thought they were nice. 1311 01:08:50.960 --> 01:08:51.119 Guy. 1312 01:08:51.720 --> 01:08:52.880 This guy was a little different. 1313 01:08:53.079 --> 01:08:55.840 He was a little PONGOOLI yeah, guy. 1314 01:08:55.439 --> 01:08:56.760 I thought it was you go first. 1315 01:08:56.800 --> 01:08:59.880 No no, no, no, no, no, no, you go first. 1316 01:09:01.239 --> 01:09:06.960 That's not Brooklyn. Brooklyn, get the hell out. 1317 01:09:06.840 --> 01:09:08.720 Of I'm running ran you off the road. 1318 01:09:09.000 --> 01:09:09.840 Yeah, okay. 1319 01:09:09.880 --> 01:09:11.680 If we're getting a head on collision, I'm getting in 1320 01:09:11.720 --> 01:09:12.520 there before you. 1321 01:09:13.000 --> 01:09:16.680 Oh yeah, man, that's crazy stuff. I hope they're still 1322 01:09:16.720 --> 01:09:18.560 not doing that. I don't know, but a. 1323 01:09:20.439 --> 01:09:23.439 Little bit did that little little taste. 1324 01:09:23.560 --> 01:09:27.159 If we did that in Manhattan. If you a phrase, dude, 1325 01:09:28.039 --> 01:09:30.520 you got it. We show him coming. We stopped. 1326 01:09:30.600 --> 01:09:34.319 Let them go, you know, like three blocks away. 1327 01:09:36.159 --> 01:09:37.600 If we saw him coming, we stopped. 1328 01:09:38.039 --> 01:09:38.800 Yeah, we wouldn't go. 1329 01:09:38.920 --> 01:09:41.960 We wouldn't go. Ahead of now. 1330 01:09:40.960 --> 01:09:43.720 Gonna they were fifty feet away in the world turns 1331 01:09:43.760 --> 01:09:44.319 right in front of you. 1332 01:09:47.239 --> 01:09:50.720 You know about what both bridges like, squeezing into the. 1333 01:09:50.720 --> 01:09:54.319 Blox like this, you get out and you punch the ship. 1334 01:09:54.119 --> 01:09:54.600 Out of the guys. 1335 01:09:54.640 --> 01:09:58.079 Yeah that this old school mentality. 1336 01:09:58.199 --> 01:10:03.680 Roof yea, yeah, I like it. Watch How did you 1337 01:10:03.800 --> 01:10:04.880 like being a captain chief? 1338 01:10:05.960 --> 01:10:08.560 I tell you, as I said, I loved every rank 1339 01:10:08.600 --> 01:10:12.560 I was in. I mean, fireman, Firefighter was great, Lieutenant 1340 01:10:12.600 --> 01:10:16.199 was great, Captain was great. But I'll tell you becoming 1341 01:10:16.239 --> 01:10:18.319 a chief at the time I became a chief in 1342 01:10:18.399 --> 01:10:21.399 eighty six, it was like dying going to heaven because 1343 01:10:21.439 --> 01:10:23.680 no one bothered You could do whatever the hell you wanted. 1344 01:10:23.800 --> 01:10:26.960 The deputies never bothered you at all. It was great, 1345 01:10:27.159 --> 01:10:29.439 It was really really I really enjoyed it. I took 1346 01:10:29.479 --> 01:10:31.640 advantage of it. I have to say I did a 1347 01:10:31.680 --> 01:10:32.800 little traveling. 1348 01:10:32.600 --> 01:10:35.600 As a third battalion that you got that spot you 1349 01:10:35.600 --> 01:10:37.439 went had a whole time. Huh uh. 1350 01:10:37.520 --> 01:10:41.119 Well, I actually covered five years in the division because 1351 01:10:41.239 --> 01:10:43.600 I wanted to go to twenty six battalion. My old firehouse, 1352 01:10:43.680 --> 01:10:48.079 nineteen truck and so I was waiting and then it 1353 01:10:48.199 --> 01:10:50.880 opened up and they gave it to this little strip 1354 01:10:51.039 --> 01:10:56.359 Jim Healy, he's probably listening. He had been a fireman 1355 01:10:56.359 --> 01:10:59.520 and fifty engine and forty one engine. Great guy. But 1356 01:10:59.640 --> 01:11:03.479 he uh, he told Van and he says, I'm going 1357 01:11:03.520 --> 01:11:05.920 to be a deputy. I'm out of deputy, okay. So 1358 01:11:06.000 --> 01:11:07.960 they gave him. They gave him two six times. So 1359 01:11:08.000 --> 01:11:11.920 now I'm five years as a BC covering. The deputy 1360 01:11:12.000 --> 01:11:15.239 says a time you're going to a battalion, no more covered. 1361 01:11:15.680 --> 01:11:19.399 So I can't think of the guy's name she got. 1362 01:11:19.439 --> 01:11:22.399 The deputy had a third division, nice guy, Irish guy. 1363 01:11:22.479 --> 01:11:24.640 Well Ciddenly put me in the third division. So I 1364 01:11:24.760 --> 01:11:28.479 was there from ninety one to oh one. That's a 1365 01:11:28.520 --> 01:11:31.000 great fire house. A lot of great guys. Ended up 1366 01:11:31.079 --> 01:11:33.239 with a lot of good friends that I'm still friends with. 1367 01:11:33.399 --> 01:11:38.279 Firefighters man. We used to uh the Ghoul Richie Carlson. 1368 01:11:38.720 --> 01:11:41.119 You ever heard the Ghoul? He was very famous guy. 1369 01:11:41.840 --> 01:11:45.399 We had time yeah, down in Puerto Rico, and in 1370 01:11:46.000 --> 01:11:49.479 ninety two we started going down there, and then Patti o'keeth, 1371 01:11:49.560 --> 01:11:52.840 Jimmy Poppa and Mike Potchinski. We all go down for 1372 01:11:53.439 --> 01:11:55.600 a week in Puerto Rico, stay at Richie's place and 1373 01:11:55.680 --> 01:11:59.039 play golf. That was great, Yeah, that's great, but really 1374 01:11:59.159 --> 01:12:03.479 really good place. I mean, unfortunately for the Third Battalion 1375 01:12:03.920 --> 01:12:06.319 when I got there, they used to be very very 1376 01:12:06.399 --> 01:12:09.039 busy at one time, Third Battalion, that's where they were 1377 01:12:09.279 --> 01:12:13.039 when they were in the ninth Division, but it really 1378 01:12:13.079 --> 01:12:15.159 slowed down. By the time I got there. The battalion 1379 01:12:15.239 --> 01:12:18.079 wasn't doing much at all. I think. I think the 1380 01:12:18.159 --> 01:12:21.000 busiest companies we had with ninety six and fifty four, then. 1381 01:12:23.520 --> 01:12:28.920 Again who's Battalion three and with Chief again Battalion Yeah who. 1382 01:12:31.880 --> 01:12:34.399 Oh we were in ninety four forty eight Oh right, yeah, 1383 01:12:34.439 --> 01:12:40.520 yeah yeah on hunch Point Avenue. But it was really 1384 01:12:40.560 --> 01:12:42.000 a good with a lot of a lot of really 1385 01:12:42.039 --> 01:12:44.680 good guys. Not a hell of a lot of work, 1386 01:12:44.720 --> 01:12:48.680 but there was still work around. Of course, we had 1387 01:12:48.760 --> 01:12:51.479 hunts points, we at the market, so man as far 1388 01:12:51.520 --> 01:12:54.199 as the food goes, I think we had eight or 1389 01:12:54.239 --> 01:12:58.079 ten refrigerators in the finals. Wow. Once a week there 1390 01:12:58.199 --> 01:13:02.520 was just a few bulk and fill up the refrigerators. 1391 01:13:02.560 --> 01:13:05.279 When you commit the work what you want. 1392 01:13:05.680 --> 01:13:05.880 Yeah. 1393 01:13:05.960 --> 01:13:08.279 Yeah, you just took whatever you want to it's great 1394 01:13:08.359 --> 01:13:10.239 and put money in the Yeah. 1395 01:13:10.319 --> 01:13:13.880 Yeah, yeah it was, isn't it weird now now? 1396 01:13:15.319 --> 01:13:16.760 I well, you know, I talked to a lot of 1397 01:13:16.800 --> 01:13:19.039 guys when I was getting I got on ninety three, 1398 01:13:19.079 --> 01:13:20.720 I was, I had a lot of guys, went to 1399 01:13:20.840 --> 01:13:23.399 ninety two, forty four, I had guys, went to all 1400 01:13:23.439 --> 01:13:26.079 those you know, thirty three, seventy five, all those middle 1401 01:13:26.079 --> 01:13:27.319 of the road, forty two engine. 1402 01:13:27.840 --> 01:13:31.159 Now it seems like the work is it's higher than them. 1403 01:13:31.239 --> 01:13:33.319 Now even them, the work is higher than them, like 1404 01:13:33.439 --> 01:13:36.199 thirty two truck, right, the thirty two truck. 1405 01:13:36.039 --> 01:13:37.600 And companies that thirty. 1406 01:13:37.359 --> 01:13:38.800 Seven, even the numbers now. 1407 01:13:39.640 --> 01:13:41.960 Fifty two and fifty two, all those companies. Thirty nine 1408 01:13:41.960 --> 01:13:43.920 truck is doing a lot of work, right, I mean. 1409 01:13:44.319 --> 01:13:45.119 That was a change. 1410 01:13:45.960 --> 01:13:46.760 Yeah, it was a camp. 1411 01:13:46.960 --> 01:13:50.880 Yeah, but it's it's all changed. But those, I mean, 1412 01:13:51.159 --> 01:13:53.760 all those numbers you mentioned all good companies. I mean 1413 01:13:53.800 --> 01:13:57.920 they did their work during the time. But I remember 1414 01:13:58.840 --> 01:14:02.279 when I was in nineteen we had always had a 1415 01:14:02.319 --> 01:14:04.840 contest with Bob Fowls to captain at thirty one truck 1416 01:14:05.520 --> 01:14:07.920 and who was busy at thirty one and nineteen, so 1417 01:14:08.119 --> 01:14:10.960 we knew Fowls always cheap with the numbers. They don't 1418 01:14:12.279 --> 01:14:17.239 twenty thirty. Uh, but we were both really very, very busy. 1419 01:14:17.319 --> 01:14:19.359 So what they did was they fifty nine truck. They 1420 01:14:19.399 --> 01:14:21.640 put fifty nine truck in the middle of us on 1421 01:14:21.840 --> 01:14:25.560 Boston Road with eighty five engine, and in fact, Harry 1422 01:14:25.600 --> 01:14:28.600 Mayans was five and eighty five at the time, and 1423 01:14:29.560 --> 01:14:32.199 so that I mean, it didn't slow we still had 1424 01:14:32.239 --> 01:14:35.640 plenty of work, but it took some of the pressure off, right, 1425 01:14:35.840 --> 01:14:40.000 And then I would say within two or three years 1426 01:14:41.239 --> 01:14:44.000 it had slowed down so much. Thirty one truck was 1427 01:14:44.079 --> 01:14:46.760 now the slowest truck in the division, which is like 1428 01:14:47.079 --> 01:14:48.720 unbelievab because they were the busiest truck in. 1429 01:14:48.720 --> 01:14:50.760 The world forever, right, yeah, yeah. 1430 01:14:50.880 --> 01:14:53.439 And then they moved fifty nine uptown. I think they 1431 01:14:53.479 --> 01:14:54.359 were with forty. 1432 01:14:55.199 --> 01:14:57.600 Right, that was the green one. That was the green machine. 1433 01:14:57.840 --> 01:14:58.880 The eighty five. 1434 01:14:59.279 --> 01:15:02.079 Yeah. Well, my my brother sixty five Inns had had 1435 01:15:02.079 --> 01:15:03.359 a green machine also. 1436 01:15:03.319 --> 01:15:06.479 That's right, yeah, yeah, yeah, So they moved them uptown. 1437 01:15:06.479 --> 01:15:10.039 I think they went him with forty three engine. I'll 1438 01:15:10.039 --> 01:15:12.199 tell you a fort Lee story, you know, the Fort Lee, 1439 01:15:12.600 --> 01:15:20.960 a fort Lee story. No, well, uh, working fifty nine 1440 01:15:21.000 --> 01:15:25.000 has already lead uptown. Now they get a job. So 1441 01:15:25.159 --> 01:15:28.520 they we get to okay, you're relocating the fifty nine engine. Okay, 1442 01:15:29.760 --> 01:15:31.520 we get on, we get up. We're going across the 1443 01:15:31.560 --> 01:15:36.319 crossbox and get a call ten to two back the quarters. 1444 01:15:37.279 --> 01:15:40.079 So I said to the shuffle, well, just go across 1445 01:15:40.119 --> 01:15:43.159 the GW we'll make it your turn. So we had 1446 01:15:43.199 --> 01:15:46.399 the rearmount and this guy, Joe Selly, was in the 1447 01:15:46.479 --> 01:15:49.840 phone booth. That's on the phone boy. So we're going 1448 01:15:49.880 --> 01:15:52.159 across the bridge and I hear he's banging on the 1449 01:15:52.199 --> 01:15:55.079 side of the lean. Joe, what's the matter? He should 1450 01:15:55.079 --> 01:15:58.920 going to Jersey. Yeah, that's right. You go across the bridge. Riage. 1451 01:16:00.159 --> 01:16:02.079 We go across the bridge. We're gonna make a U turn. 1452 01:16:02.399 --> 01:16:05.319 We get over there and there's three or four yellow 1453 01:16:05.560 --> 01:16:08.079 highway trucks Fort Lee, just like New York City Yellow 1454 01:16:08.720 --> 01:16:11.680 same way. Ten guys standing around watching one guy work. 1455 01:16:14.319 --> 01:16:15.560 That hasn't changed much. 1456 01:16:16.840 --> 01:16:18.279 Put a cup of coffee in her hands. 1457 01:16:19.760 --> 01:16:22.960 So I said, pull up, I said, listen, is a 1458 01:16:23.039 --> 01:16:26.600 firehouse around here? I said, yeah, you're down about two blocks. Maker. 1459 01:16:26.680 --> 01:16:29.479 I grew up the hill. You'll see it, says I 1460 01:16:29.560 --> 01:16:33.039 think Steve Corbo was driving. I see, let's let's let's 1461 01:16:33.760 --> 01:16:34.560 take it right up there. 1462 01:16:34.920 --> 01:16:38.520 We get up to the top of the hillerator, the 1463 01:16:38.680 --> 01:16:40.079 drive down to this depression. 1464 01:16:40.359 --> 01:16:43.000 It was about ten days or huge firehouse, huge fire. 1465 01:16:43.840 --> 01:16:46.239 So uh, we drive down. We have we have a 1466 01:16:46.319 --> 01:16:48.439 spare rig. It looks like a piece of ship. I 1467 01:16:48.520 --> 01:16:52.039 mean really a piece of ship. It was powerful. We 1468 01:16:52.119 --> 01:16:56.560 were all dressed in rags. We don't know. Beautiful. I 1469 01:16:56.680 --> 01:17:01.319 look in there's nobody. There's ship just staying. The entourage 1470 01:17:01.439 --> 01:17:04.680 comes back about eight ten griggs. They want to run. 1471 01:17:05.039 --> 01:17:06.720 One better looking than they other. 1472 01:17:07.720 --> 01:17:11.199 Oh, beautiful, So they stopped the rig. They look him 1473 01:17:11.239 --> 01:17:12.760 down and a couple of guys get out and they're 1474 01:17:12.800 --> 01:17:15.520 looking down at us. So one guy walks down. He 1475 01:17:15.640 --> 01:17:19.199 was an officer one race. He says, uh, but what 1476 01:17:19.319 --> 01:17:22.199 are you guys doing here? He said, you had a job. 1477 01:17:22.319 --> 01:17:29.840 So they relocated as Paul the relocated the fire. The 1478 01:17:30.279 --> 01:17:35.600 FDNY O that they come down. We backed the rig 1479 01:17:35.720 --> 01:17:38.680 in one of the bays there, too, took pictures, because 1480 01:17:38.720 --> 01:17:41.199 of course they had a photographer with them, took pictures. 1481 01:17:41.600 --> 01:17:45.159 They invited us in. They had this botty you couldn't 1482 01:17:45.239 --> 01:17:47.319 believe right, yeah, you believe it. 1483 01:17:47.439 --> 01:17:49.000 Yeah, so he's we said. 1484 01:17:48.800 --> 01:17:50.359 About a half hour we left. But it was the 1485 01:17:50.760 --> 01:17:53.319 funny thing was Tony Alba, who was the captain of 1486 01:17:53.520 --> 01:17:57.199 nineteen truck. Then he would have been fireming and rescue. 1487 01:17:57.359 --> 01:17:59.840 I left you to Tony. He was the captain of 1488 01:18:00.039 --> 01:18:03.560 one nine chuck to I think. So Tony's mother was 1489 01:18:04.119 --> 01:18:06.279 lived in North Bronx. She was sick. So Tony used 1490 01:18:06.279 --> 01:18:08.720 to take the rig when he was working visit his mother. 1491 01:18:09.279 --> 01:18:14.800 So they called him city White Alba, I commit to work, 1492 01:18:15.039 --> 01:18:18.760 and Alvia says to me, okay, what's the ship Fortley, 1493 01:18:18.760 --> 01:18:22.920 New Jersey. As a Tony, I'm known as Adams State Martin. 1494 01:18:28.199 --> 01:18:31.680 One of the guys in nineteen truck, Teddy Maguire on 1495 01:18:31.840 --> 01:18:34.920 the bar in Long Beach called Chauncey's and you guys ever, yeah, 1496 01:18:34.920 --> 01:18:37.800 of course I live in Long Beach. Yeah great. We 1497 01:18:37.880 --> 01:18:39.520 used to be there all the time, right on right 1498 01:18:39.560 --> 01:18:43.239 on the beach. So I said, I tell you what, Tony, 1499 01:18:44.079 --> 01:18:46.920 you take the rink the Chaunceys and that tops me. 1500 01:18:49.319 --> 01:18:52.159 That's bullshit. That's not fair as well, that's the deal. 1501 01:18:52.479 --> 01:18:57.319 You gotta go to Chancey's or I am I'm the winner. Yeah, bro, 1502 01:18:58.079 --> 01:18:59.600 you got to knock out the champion. 1503 01:18:59.680 --> 01:19:01.159 Bro, you just can't beat him on point. 1504 01:19:01.199 --> 01:19:05.279 But Mikey Millner, Mikey Milner said that it's still in 1505 01:19:05.479 --> 01:19:07.479 It's still in the firehouse. 1506 01:19:07.279 --> 01:19:08.520 Of the US kid, I guess, yeah. 1507 01:19:08.520 --> 01:19:10.359 I mean, I'm trying to find something on it. I 1508 01:19:10.399 --> 01:19:12.600 could trying to find it. There's no luck. I've been looking. 1509 01:19:13.119 --> 01:19:14.039 You talk about the picture. 1510 01:19:15.159 --> 01:19:17.680 Yeah, I'm trying to find something, but I only found 1511 01:19:17.760 --> 01:19:18.840 this green truck from AFT. 1512 01:19:19.000 --> 01:19:20.760 I'm trying to find something that's. 1513 01:19:20.600 --> 01:19:24.079 My brother's company sixty five, So that's sixty it's. 1514 01:19:23.960 --> 01:19:26.119 Sixty five because there's sixty five, and then there is 1515 01:19:26.159 --> 01:19:29.560 this sixty five, which is another Yeah. 1516 01:19:30.199 --> 01:19:32.199 I'm a picture of us in Fort Lee. It's still 1517 01:19:32.279 --> 01:19:34.640 in the sitting room in nineteen I know that. 1518 01:19:35.000 --> 01:19:36.039 Yeah, that's what he was saying. 1519 01:19:36.279 --> 01:19:36.880 It's still there. 1520 01:19:37.399 --> 01:19:39.039 All right. So here's the question. Chief. 1521 01:19:39.119 --> 01:19:42.000 Let me ask you, if you had to pick one 1522 01:19:42.239 --> 01:19:46.159 place that you could go back to work today and 1523 01:19:46.239 --> 01:19:47.159 it would be the same. 1524 01:19:47.000 --> 01:19:48.119 Way, would you do would you be. 1525 01:19:50.319 --> 01:19:52.159 That's not a fair question. Answer? 1526 01:19:52.239 --> 01:19:55.520 Oh, well, you know, but if you're not fair, Yeah, 1527 01:19:57.239 --> 01:19:58.680 and you're a young fuck, you're young. 1528 01:19:59.720 --> 01:20:01.760 Love every place I worked I'm. 1529 01:20:01.600 --> 01:20:02.640 Gonna give you a little inspiration. 1530 01:20:06.600 --> 01:20:07.439 Turn out, Martin. 1531 01:20:08.079 --> 01:20:11.239 I'm gonna have to say, nineteen truck, Really I had 1532 01:20:11.760 --> 01:20:13.880 I had the most well. I had a lot of 1533 01:20:13.960 --> 01:20:17.840 fires in nineteen truck. I had great experiences there. I 1534 01:20:17.960 --> 01:20:20.279 still have a ton of friends from nineteen But I 1535 01:20:20.920 --> 01:20:22.199 mean I have a ton of friends of all the 1536 01:20:22.359 --> 01:20:25.039 all the firehouses. It's not like the others aren't good. 1537 01:20:25.119 --> 01:20:27.760 Just something about man, I gotcha, I got you. It's 1538 01:20:27.800 --> 01:20:30.560 tough to pick. I put you on great, great, great firehouse. 1539 01:20:33.760 --> 01:20:35.520 So what made you want to pack it? In twenty 1540 01:20:35.600 --> 01:20:39.039 five years? I still miss it? Very honest. Wow, what 1541 01:20:39.199 --> 01:20:44.560 made you want to retire? Three quarters? I'll do it 1542 01:20:44.640 --> 01:20:48.119 every time I told my lamit, I told my labelm 1543 01:20:48.159 --> 01:20:52.520 and a job, and I remember I remember getting the 1544 01:20:52.680 --> 01:20:54.680 MRI and I come out in the car and I 1545 01:20:54.760 --> 01:20:56.560 opened up. I'm sitting in the car looking it's just 1546 01:20:56.760 --> 01:21:01.079 torn labors. I can't be That's sounds like three quarters 1547 01:21:01.119 --> 01:21:03.439 to me. Yeah, he was like three quarters. 1548 01:21:03.680 --> 01:21:05.840 Did you ever think you were going to do forty years? 1549 01:21:06.319 --> 01:21:07.920 Did you ever think I never thought I. 1550 01:21:07.920 --> 01:21:09.239 Was going to get three courts? I tell you, I 1551 01:21:09.359 --> 01:21:11.680 was actually free my whole time in the career. I 1552 01:21:11.800 --> 01:21:14.520 was very very lucky. You know, everybody gets hurt in 1553 01:21:14.560 --> 01:21:16.600 the five of them, you know I was. I was 1554 01:21:16.680 --> 01:21:18.920 just very lucky guy. I never thought I was going 1555 01:21:18.960 --> 01:21:21.520 to get three quarters, but but I did. What was 1556 01:21:21.560 --> 01:21:22.520 the last question he asked? 1557 01:21:22.560 --> 01:21:24.920 Forty years? Ever think you were going to do? 1558 01:21:26.439 --> 01:21:28.600 When they put me out? I went down to see 1559 01:21:28.640 --> 01:21:33.279 how Connley Al Connley, so Al says to me, yeah, 1560 01:21:33.319 --> 01:21:35.640 you got to get out December thirty first. I said, no, 1561 01:21:35.760 --> 01:21:39.199 how I want to stay into two because like, come 1562 01:21:39.239 --> 01:21:41.359 on sixty two, because you've got to get out. 1563 01:21:41.319 --> 01:21:43.279 The thirty first because all your overtime. 1564 01:21:44.439 --> 01:21:47.159 I was in my fortieth year, but I got out 1565 01:21:47.199 --> 01:21:47.760 December thirty. 1566 01:21:47.800 --> 01:21:49.479 How fast did that go? Chief? Forty years? 1567 01:21:50.479 --> 01:21:56.359 It went fast? And yeah, I mean it's amazing. But 1568 01:21:56.840 --> 01:22:03.279 I'm blessed. Memories the last forever, you know, just wonderful memories. 1569 01:22:03.279 --> 01:22:06.479 So I was very fortunate. I worked with some really 1570 01:22:06.600 --> 01:22:08.960 great people. Well, Vinnie dam was the captain of fifty 1571 01:22:09.000 --> 01:22:12.720 eight when I was there, Oh my, yeah, great, I 1572 01:22:12.800 --> 01:22:16.239 mean great, great people. John o'reagan was the captain of 1573 01:22:16.399 --> 01:22:20.279 twenty six. Ray Brown it was my lieutenant, and twitter mean, 1574 01:22:21.079 --> 01:22:23.520 just wonderful people. I worked with, great deputies in the 1575 01:22:23.560 --> 01:22:25.760 sixth Division. Bill Burke sec. 1576 01:22:27.399 --> 01:22:32.159 Ceiling was in nineteen right at that time? Was he ceiling? Yeah? 1577 01:22:32.319 --> 01:22:34.000 Was he? I remember him. He was the captain of 1578 01:22:34.039 --> 01:22:35.199 nineteen He came after me. 1579 01:22:35.319 --> 01:22:36.760 Yeah, he's the captain in nineteen. 1580 01:22:38.000 --> 01:22:38.960 Yeah, I worked. 1581 01:22:39.479 --> 01:22:41.439 I was thinking about beating him up, and I'm gonna 1582 01:22:41.479 --> 01:22:46.880 hold off on that man. He's with the golfer. He's 1583 01:22:46.880 --> 01:22:47.560 a great guy too. 1584 01:22:50.079 --> 01:22:53.119 Hey, God, they got some pictures. Show the chief some pictures? 1585 01:22:53.560 --> 01:22:54.800 All right, do you want? I have a lot of 1586 01:22:55.079 --> 01:22:57.560 He has a lot of outings, So yeah, look at it. 1587 01:22:58.399 --> 01:23:00.560 We'll get to those. We'll get to he has involved. 1588 01:23:00.600 --> 01:23:02.279 That means I didn't want to show you the fire. 1589 01:23:02.439 --> 01:23:05.600 Oh look at that who It looks looks like uh. 1590 01:23:06.119 --> 01:23:08.399 That's the picture Tom Kilker had in his lock up. 1591 01:23:08.439 --> 01:23:11.720 Because Kilko is a deput in the sixth I never 1592 01:23:11.800 --> 01:23:14.640 wore a fire gear and we go to a fire 1593 01:23:14.680 --> 01:23:18.000 and because he was the commander, he had to wear 1594 01:23:18.079 --> 01:23:19.760 his fire gear and you have the helmet on with 1595 01:23:19.840 --> 01:23:22.119 the trap. And he looked at me and said, Tom, 1596 01:23:22.520 --> 01:23:25.000 can't you put something on? It looks like you're going 1597 01:23:25.079 --> 01:23:29.399 to a fire. Hey, Tom, do you know how silly 1598 01:23:29.479 --> 01:23:35.399 you look? With that chin strap he was. He was 1599 01:23:35.479 --> 01:23:39.399 another great guy. Tom, Tom kilker Man, awesome, great guy. 1600 01:23:40.479 --> 01:23:42.600 Let me go to I'm just gonna bring this one 1601 01:23:42.680 --> 01:23:43.319 up here really quick. 1602 01:23:43.399 --> 01:23:47.319 Just yeah, I think that there's my time a day. Yeah, yeah, 1603 01:23:48.159 --> 01:23:52.000 bring up boys from fourteen truck gave me the helmet 1604 01:23:52.000 --> 01:23:52.840 when I got promoted. 1605 01:23:53.239 --> 01:23:55.119 Yeah, I also have I just found this one too. 1606 01:23:55.159 --> 01:23:55.880 It was just sent to me. 1607 01:23:56.600 --> 01:24:04.159 Uh Bob, God bless hum. So you love that one man? 1608 01:24:04.479 --> 01:24:05.680 Yeah, all right, here we go. 1609 01:24:06.720 --> 01:24:07.960 I can't remember who the chief was. 1610 01:24:08.039 --> 01:24:08.880 I remember that's a. 1611 01:24:08.880 --> 01:24:10.000 Look at his face, like. 1612 01:24:12.039 --> 01:24:13.920 All right, so we're going to tell something about group shot. 1613 01:24:13.960 --> 01:24:16.119 We'll start from twenty six nineteen that you have here. 1614 01:24:16.479 --> 01:24:22.760 Yeah, that's uh well, all the boys from twenty six Tom, Joe, Curry, 1615 01:24:23.520 --> 01:24:26.359 Steve I came, remember last name Steve, Mike, My even 1616 01:24:26.439 --> 01:24:29.600 ended up with. Mike was Bill Stewart's son of law. 1617 01:24:29.920 --> 01:24:32.920 He ended up as a battalion chief, and myself. Bill 1618 01:24:33.000 --> 01:24:34.920 Stewart was one of the senior guys in the twenty 1619 01:24:34.960 --> 01:24:37.359 six truck. Great guy just passed away last year. I think, 1620 01:24:37.640 --> 01:24:41.319 oh goodness, ninety five. Yeah, that's his that's his son 1621 01:24:41.399 --> 01:24:43.520 in law. I was gonna say a ball guy. But 1622 01:24:43.600 --> 01:24:46.560 I'm balled there also, so yeah. 1623 01:24:46.840 --> 01:24:51.039 It's overrated, it's over all right. We got another one 1624 01:24:51.079 --> 01:24:51.239 for you. 1625 01:24:51.880 --> 01:24:56.399 And that's who it was. Oh yeah, Joe, oh shit 1626 01:24:56.520 --> 01:24:58.880 man eighty eight engine. He was in twenty six truck 1627 01:24:58.960 --> 01:25:06.520 and cho that's Joe Pintell, myself and Joe Dunovan twenty 1628 01:25:06.560 --> 01:25:09.680 six truck. Then, yeah, that must have been a luncheon. 1629 01:25:09.720 --> 01:25:13.079 They had nice and we got another one for you 1630 01:25:13.159 --> 01:25:14.600 a little. I tried to blow some of these up 1631 01:25:14.640 --> 01:25:16.520 without ruling the picture when I get money in there. 1632 01:25:16.600 --> 01:25:21.319 That's another I forget the Battalionsi's name, he was there. 1633 01:25:21.439 --> 01:25:24.600 It was a luncheon. And that's the guy kneeling down 1634 01:25:24.640 --> 01:25:28.720 all the way in the left is Tim Hogan. He 1635 01:25:29.079 --> 01:25:30.760 was the captain of fifty eight. He is a battan 1636 01:25:30.880 --> 01:25:34.640 chief now and all the old senior guys from twenty 1637 01:25:34.720 --> 01:25:36.319 six truck in that picture. 1638 01:25:36.359 --> 01:25:38.720 I think that was the same day he actually go 1639 01:25:38.840 --> 01:25:40.600 to the firehouse and have lunch there. 1640 01:25:41.359 --> 01:25:45.000 Yeah, they had a big lunch for us. Yeah they sponsored. Yeah, 1641 01:25:46.880 --> 01:25:50.279 Tim Hogan was the guy that invited us. Yeah, oh sweet, 1642 01:25:50.520 --> 01:25:52.640 he and the captain. Oh, the guy all the way 1643 01:25:52.680 --> 01:25:54.600 on the right kneeling he's the he was the captain 1644 01:25:54.640 --> 01:25:58.359 of twenty six. Nice guy too. I can't remember his name. 1645 01:25:58.399 --> 01:25:59.760 I don't know if he got promoted yet. 1646 01:26:00.439 --> 01:26:04.600 Good guys, All right, let's another twenty six truck reunion 1647 01:26:04.640 --> 01:26:04.840 for you. 1648 01:26:06.680 --> 01:26:08.079 Look at the dust in that picture. 1649 01:26:08.279 --> 01:26:10.000 I was gonna say, don't fuck anybody. 1650 01:26:10.159 --> 01:26:12.399 Well, the guy all the way in the right sitting 1651 01:26:12.560 --> 01:26:14.920 Joe Donovan next to him, was still with the ninety 1652 01:26:14.960 --> 01:26:18.520 five year old just passed away. Oh bless great guy. 1653 01:26:18.600 --> 01:26:18.800 Yeah. 1654 01:26:20.239 --> 01:26:23.720 Uh Donny, Haye, did you work with Donny? 1655 01:26:23.960 --> 01:26:25.479 Donny had Now I didn't work with don I know 1656 01:26:25.640 --> 01:26:27.920 don but he was the twenty six truck guy. 1657 01:26:28.119 --> 01:26:28.319 Yeah. 1658 01:26:30.199 --> 01:26:32.600 And John Henry in the back there with the purple 1659 01:26:32.680 --> 01:26:36.359 shirt on fifty eight engine, and Dennis Callipy who just 1660 01:26:36.439 --> 01:26:42.119 passed away right next to him. Unfortunately, the chief coops. 1661 01:26:41.920 --> 01:26:43.600 That doesn't want to come on. What's his name on 1662 01:26:43.720 --> 01:26:45.279 the top left there, chief. 1663 01:26:46.840 --> 01:26:49.800 Top left top fluff his hate next to Haye. 1664 01:26:49.800 --> 01:26:50.479 You knuckle ahead. 1665 01:26:51.640 --> 01:26:52.920 I can't see what I said. 1666 01:26:52.960 --> 01:26:53.560 Yeah, I have to. 1667 01:26:54.319 --> 01:26:55.479 I can try to blow it up if you want. 1668 01:26:55.600 --> 01:26:56.960 A few man, take me a couple of minutes. 1669 01:26:56.960 --> 01:26:58.680 And they get a ticket trick. 1670 01:27:00.119 --> 01:27:02.800 Yeah, it's hating the checking shirt. It's uh. He went 1671 01:27:02.880 --> 01:27:03.520 to rescue too. 1672 01:27:03.920 --> 01:27:07.800 Uh Fisher there too, is there? 1673 01:27:07.960 --> 01:27:12.359 Yeah, I couldn't. I'm shut too. There's a lot of 1674 01:27:12.439 --> 01:27:13.199 dust in that picture. 1675 01:27:13.319 --> 01:27:17.520 Chief at that picture says. 1676 01:27:21.279 --> 01:27:25.319 That Helmet could cough or if he could talk, sorry, 1677 01:27:25.399 --> 01:27:30.359 it would cough. All right, is gonna love this one? 1678 01:27:30.359 --> 01:27:31.199 Here we go boom. 1679 01:27:36.720 --> 01:27:38.960 He still had a good record that night. 1680 01:27:39.119 --> 01:27:43.520 Yeah, yeah, very nice. All right, we have a little 1681 01:27:43.600 --> 01:27:44.079 moment here. 1682 01:27:45.159 --> 01:27:48.800 Yeah. That was the Legion that had a special with 1683 01:27:48.920 --> 01:27:55.359 the Met game and I love it there sitting there. 1684 01:27:55.239 --> 01:27:59.199 Still you're still uh you're still participating, Chief, that's good. 1685 01:27:59.439 --> 01:28:00.199 Oh yeah yeah. 1686 01:28:03.640 --> 01:28:03.760 Uh. 1687 01:28:04.600 --> 01:28:06.880 They're honoring me at the Honor Legion for something I 1688 01:28:06.920 --> 01:28:09.279 don't know what the hell I did, but I don't 1689 01:28:09.279 --> 01:28:15.760 know what. They call it. Humanitarian Awarde, Nobel Peace Prize, 1690 01:28:15.880 --> 01:28:21.079 something like that. Yeah, not very nice. And the Animal 1691 01:28:21.159 --> 01:28:23.520 Society gave me the green Jacket about three years ago. 1692 01:28:23.680 --> 01:28:27.479 That was nice. Wow at their at their Yeah, that 1693 01:28:27.600 --> 01:28:28.000 was very. 1694 01:28:27.960 --> 01:28:29.760 Nice, nice, very nice. 1695 01:28:30.640 --> 01:28:33.399 Yeah, that's another Chief of the Department and h Timmy 1696 01:28:33.479 --> 01:28:36.319 Corilla Colla I think it is, And that was over 1697 01:28:36.399 --> 01:28:39.640 in Staten and Linda Thompson, who is a wonderful person. 1698 01:28:39.720 --> 01:28:42.520 Any of you guys know Linda. She takes care of 1699 01:28:42.640 --> 01:28:46.000 all the senior firefighters and the veterans. She does some 1700 01:28:46.159 --> 01:28:50.720 wonderful job. And this guy Anthony's first birthday over in 1701 01:28:50.800 --> 01:28:56.079 Staten Island run a number of those for real old timers. 1702 01:28:56.600 --> 01:28:58.239 I think Anthony passed away. 1703 01:28:58.319 --> 01:29:01.039 I think this year all that I saw it in 1704 01:29:01.079 --> 01:29:01.439 the paper. 1705 01:29:02.199 --> 01:29:05.960 Yeah, he's gone, yeah, wow, that's terrible. He loves to 1706 01:29:05.960 --> 01:29:08.720 get that you line. This is ninety four and forty eight. 1707 01:29:08.840 --> 01:29:10.479 A lot of troublemakers in this picture. 1708 01:29:12.119 --> 01:29:15.000 Richie Massie is there. I know Richie. Yeah, I was 1709 01:29:15.000 --> 01:29:16.079 in once seventeen with him. 1710 01:29:16.760 --> 01:29:18.960 Yeah, a lot of a lot of Yeah, a lot 1711 01:29:19.000 --> 01:29:20.560 of my golfing buddies are in there. 1712 01:29:21.920 --> 01:29:25.439 Golfing. All right, all right here, yeah we'll go we'll 1713 01:29:25.520 --> 01:29:26.960 go back a little historic here. 1714 01:29:27.960 --> 01:29:31.079 Oh yeah, well we called it the Oys back in 1715 01:29:31.119 --> 01:29:33.800 those days, which is the August actually trainings. 1716 01:29:33.960 --> 01:29:34.119 Yeah. 1717 01:29:34.159 --> 01:29:38.439 Now it's flipped, Mike Milner call it. 1718 01:29:40.960 --> 01:29:42.560 That's what I was gonna say. It sounds like a 1719 01:29:42.640 --> 01:29:44.119 little uh, a little juicy. 1720 01:29:48.399 --> 01:29:51.159 Yeah. There's a lot of chops in that picture. Man 1721 01:29:51.279 --> 01:29:52.159 looking at the chops. 1722 01:29:53.039 --> 01:29:57.119 Yes, anybody knows that Jack McCormick, who became a staff chief, 1723 01:29:57.720 --> 01:30:00.720 is the fifth guy from the right. He had long 1724 01:30:01.520 --> 01:30:02.640 red hair at that time. 1725 01:30:02.800 --> 01:30:03.600 Oh I see him. 1726 01:30:03.800 --> 01:30:06.159 Yeah, yeah, I'm just below him. 1727 01:30:07.000 --> 01:30:08.399 Oh I see you, Yeah, I see you. 1728 01:30:09.319 --> 01:30:09.880 That's crazy. 1729 01:30:10.039 --> 01:30:12.439 Look any different way the chops. 1730 01:30:12.520 --> 01:30:13.680 I like the Chops. 1731 01:30:14.960 --> 01:30:16.359 Only fifty two years ago. 1732 01:30:16.680 --> 01:30:19.800 You got a shirt and everything looks like you at home. 1733 01:30:19.880 --> 01:30:24.640 He's got the platform choose. Oh yeah, bell bottomed jeans. 1734 01:30:26.600 --> 01:30:28.960 Yeah, that's ak a picture. 1735 01:30:29.600 --> 01:30:32.680 That's the boys some Uh that's Eddie Garretty right next 1736 01:30:32.720 --> 01:30:33.119 to me there. 1737 01:30:33.239 --> 01:30:37.640 Yeah, it's Pully Baldwin, Paul Baldwin. 1738 01:30:38.600 --> 01:30:40.920 Oh is that I'm all the way to the low 1739 01:30:41.000 --> 01:30:43.119 and the left, the way to the left. Okay, yeah, 1740 01:30:44.359 --> 01:30:44.960 I can't remember. 1741 01:30:45.000 --> 01:30:49.720 The guy looks familiar too. Yeah, yeah, nice. 1742 01:30:50.159 --> 01:30:53.199 All right, here we go. I'm gonna make Kilker happy. 1743 01:30:53.279 --> 01:30:57.720 That picture. I was wearing fire again. This is uh 1744 01:30:58.600 --> 01:31:03.199 my national gun out that Westhampton Beach, which I joined 1745 01:31:03.239 --> 01:31:07.119 in seventy eight, and I ended up as the first 1746 01:31:07.159 --> 01:31:09.600 sergeant for the last thirteen years. It was a great job. 1747 01:31:10.600 --> 01:31:14.159 I worked for Hey, Susan Figueroa, who was a he 1748 01:31:14.279 --> 01:31:17.439 became a full colonel, but he was a little Puerto 1749 01:31:17.520 --> 01:31:20.680 Rican guy who lived around the corner from my firehouse 1750 01:31:20.720 --> 01:31:23.800 on Seneca Revenue from the third Italian. Oh wow, just 1751 01:31:23.880 --> 01:31:26.319 a great guy. Yeah, great guy. And this is We 1752 01:31:26.479 --> 01:31:28.359 used to play softball once a week. Well it was 1753 01:31:28.399 --> 01:31:30.439 one month, one weekend the month we used to go 1754 01:31:30.520 --> 01:31:33.880 out there and we always played softball. And I guess 1755 01:31:33.920 --> 01:31:37.079 it was Saturday afternoon at four o'clock. That was the 1756 01:31:37.199 --> 01:31:38.640 end of the hour. Was end of the four o'clock. 1757 01:31:40.479 --> 01:31:42.520 There's a bunch of firemen and cops in that picture, 1758 01:31:42.560 --> 01:31:43.159 of course. 1759 01:31:43.199 --> 01:31:45.800 Cops, all busters. Imagine that. 1760 01:31:47.319 --> 01:31:48.000 All busters. 1761 01:31:48.039 --> 01:31:48.520 That's great. 1762 01:31:49.800 --> 01:31:51.960 We were blessed with a couple of photos for some 1763 01:31:52.079 --> 01:31:54.680 of our guys from the chat. Mister Tom, give us 1764 01:31:54.680 --> 01:31:56.560 a couple extra photos. He'll share with you real quick. 1765 01:31:57.319 --> 01:32:01.520 That's Tom rap On that I'm talking to there, Chris 1766 01:32:01.680 --> 01:32:06.119 King right, And I don't know. I don't know what 1767 01:32:06.239 --> 01:32:08.319 this was. I guess it was a giant. I don't 1768 01:32:08.359 --> 01:32:12.720 know where my helmet is. You got the code on 1769 01:32:12.760 --> 01:32:13.079 all right? 1770 01:32:13.279 --> 01:32:14.359 The two bagger. 1771 01:32:16.199 --> 01:32:18.319 Man the little school suburban there, buddy. 1772 01:32:18.760 --> 01:32:21.000 Yeah, I'm trying to see what. 1773 01:32:23.439 --> 01:32:27.000 I have to blow it up? Wish is wish the software? 1774 01:32:27.079 --> 01:32:27.600 Let us do it? 1775 01:32:27.960 --> 01:32:29.880 Is this getting bigger on your end than just don't lie? 1776 01:32:31.319 --> 01:32:32.000 That's getting big? 1777 01:32:32.399 --> 01:32:35.000 Is that taking the full screen for you, it is 1778 01:32:35.039 --> 01:32:35.640 a full screen. 1779 01:32:36.079 --> 01:32:38.239 Yeah, but this is one of the full screen. Actually 1780 01:32:38.760 --> 01:32:42.720 take a screech. No, it won't be for them, actually 1781 01:32:42.880 --> 01:32:45.760 you actually uh yeah, it wouldn't be full screen unless 1782 01:32:45.800 --> 01:32:48.359 you did this. But it's because we're in it. It 1783 01:32:48.399 --> 01:32:48.880 doesn't work. 1784 01:32:49.359 --> 01:32:50.920 Ah ah ha. 1785 01:32:51.960 --> 01:32:53.159 And then the last photo we have. 1786 01:32:53.319 --> 01:32:57.680 Is wow, that's a nice picture. 1787 01:32:57.760 --> 01:33:05.199 Man again you have that on your front. Chief. Yeah, 1788 01:33:05.520 --> 01:33:06.960 I'm not saying what you're seeing. 1789 01:33:08.359 --> 01:33:10.680 Hold on now, can you can you see us? 1790 01:33:12.279 --> 01:33:14.119 He went out, where do you go? 1791 01:33:14.680 --> 01:33:17.880 Okay, come back, listen to the old school health and 1792 01:33:17.920 --> 01:33:18.399 safety tip. 1793 01:33:18.399 --> 01:33:20.399 While I was gone, Yeah for sure, let me get there. 1794 01:33:20.560 --> 01:33:22.520 All right, here we go. 1795 01:33:23.640 --> 01:33:25.960 The First Responder Center for Excellence is a not for 1796 01:33:26.039 --> 01:33:30.159 profit organization dedicated to protecting the lives and livelihoods. 1797 01:33:29.560 --> 01:33:30.760 Of first responders. 1798 01:33:31.039 --> 01:33:34.159 Their education and research initiatives aim to bring greater awareness 1799 01:33:34.239 --> 01:33:37.960 and understanding the challenges to the health, safety, and well 1800 01:33:38.000 --> 01:33:41.479 being of firefighters, EMS personnel, and other first responders too. 1801 01:33:41.960 --> 01:33:45.600 They are an affiliate of the National Fallen Firefighter Foundations. 1802 01:33:47.159 --> 01:33:49.560 All right, Tonight's the old school health and safety tip 1803 01:33:49.720 --> 01:33:52.760 is there are many simple, no cost steps fire fighters 1804 01:33:52.840 --> 01:33:55.880 to take to manage their risk of cancer, such as 1805 01:33:56.199 --> 01:34:00.319 cleaning the inside liner of your helmet. Simple, you don't 1806 01:34:00.319 --> 01:34:02.920 want the big C. So you know, clean is the 1807 01:34:02.960 --> 01:34:03.560 new salty. 1808 01:34:04.479 --> 01:34:05.399 Take care of your health. 1809 01:34:05.760 --> 01:34:06.640 That's what I'm saying about. 1810 01:34:09.119 --> 01:34:14.319 Oh here he is, got jump off again that damn thing. 1811 01:34:14.800 --> 01:34:17.720 That's all right, We got you now, Okay. 1812 01:34:19.000 --> 01:34:21.039 Leave it just like that, You leave it just like that, 1813 01:34:21.359 --> 01:34:22.479 a little bit left to be okay. 1814 01:34:23.640 --> 01:34:28.960 Oh okay, I want to tell you a story, one 1815 01:34:29.039 --> 01:34:37.039 story I meant to tell you about. I'm getting metal 1816 01:34:37.640 --> 01:34:40.760 and can you hear me? 1817 01:34:41.760 --> 01:34:45.520 Yes, yes, right now we can don't move, you can 1818 01:34:45.600 --> 01:34:46.880 hear me, gotcha? 1819 01:34:46.960 --> 01:34:51.840 Now, okay, all right. So nineteen eighty three, I'm getting 1820 01:34:51.880 --> 01:34:56.479 the metal. So my dhorry, Hello, you're good. That was 1821 01:34:56.520 --> 01:34:56.840 my bread. 1822 01:34:56.920 --> 01:34:59.279 I would get myself set up or something gone, So. 1823 01:35:00.600 --> 01:35:05.000 Sorry, chief, go ahead, take away, all right. So, uh 1824 01:35:05.560 --> 01:35:07.479 so it's metal Day, so I'm gonna get a medal. 1825 01:35:07.520 --> 01:35:10.920 And the guys had my reliversine for my family. So 1826 01:35:11.079 --> 01:35:14.239 my sister in law who lived up to Katona, she 1827 01:35:14.399 --> 01:35:17.319 had four kids, so I said, come on down and 1828 01:35:17.960 --> 01:35:19.600 go to Meddle day. So she comes. She ends up 1829 01:35:19.600 --> 01:35:23.119 at the firehouse on the third Avenue. Fourteen truck and 1830 01:35:23.199 --> 01:35:26.000 we had a throwing apparatus in quarters. So it was 1831 01:35:26.039 --> 01:35:28.680 the summer time, so you don't need to throwing apparatus. 1832 01:35:29.239 --> 01:35:31.000 So I go down and take all the shit out 1833 01:35:31.000 --> 01:35:33.880 of the throwing apparatus except the oil burner. You know, 1834 01:35:34.159 --> 01:35:37.399 throwing apparatus for young guys to use those to throw 1835 01:35:37.479 --> 01:35:41.279 out the hydrants, which doesn't happen anymore anyway. I pull 1836 01:35:41.279 --> 01:35:44.720 all the shit out of the throwing apparatus except the 1837 01:35:44.760 --> 01:35:48.880 oil burner, which was attached. I put in folding chairs. Mary, 1838 01:35:49.000 --> 01:35:51.479 Jane and the four kids get in. I get in 1839 01:35:51.520 --> 01:35:54.479 the front seat. Now, Enio mount Pelley was the battalion 1840 01:35:54.560 --> 01:35:58.359 chief and Trump Pettang, wonderful guy. He's staying by the 1841 01:35:58.399 --> 01:36:00.159 house watch. He's going down to middle day or so. 1842 01:36:01.119 --> 01:36:05.119 All of a sudden I start driving out. I'm going 1843 01:36:05.199 --> 01:36:07.439 past the house watch in your standing and he looks up. 1844 01:36:07.840 --> 01:36:09.760 I'll see you down a chief. I let him to 1845 01:36:09.840 --> 01:36:13.039 get his mouth. It was like wide open. He couldn't 1846 01:36:13.159 --> 01:36:15.680 he couldn't believe I was I was leaving with the Florida. 1847 01:36:17.000 --> 01:36:20.199 So bingo down the city hall he went. I parked 1848 01:36:20.239 --> 01:36:21.880 the thing right there in my city hawk because it 1849 01:36:22.000 --> 01:36:24.800 was fire above and apparatus and had a great day 1850 01:36:25.239 --> 01:36:29.640 and then drove him back and breads outside the box. 1851 01:36:29.680 --> 01:36:30.920 Stick love it. 1852 01:36:31.640 --> 01:36:34.920 It worked that well. It worked that well, and let's 1853 01:36:34.960 --> 01:36:38.039 see what else. Or I did the old sneeze thing 1854 01:36:38.359 --> 01:36:40.319 you guys familiar when you put water on your hand, 1855 01:36:40.359 --> 01:36:43.039 you walk behind somebody and you make a seat. Yeah, 1856 01:36:45.840 --> 01:36:48.000 like walk into the kitchen. It's a brand new lieutenant. 1857 01:36:48.399 --> 01:36:52.199 So it was twenty guys sitting at the table. So 1858 01:36:52.279 --> 01:36:55.000 I walk up behind him. He's got his meal. I 1859 01:36:55.079 --> 01:36:59.640 give him the old sneeze, So I'm sorry little and. 1860 01:37:01.119 --> 01:37:01.319 He was. 1861 01:37:01.600 --> 01:37:04.359 He didn't look around, but everybody's staring at her at 1862 01:37:04.359 --> 01:37:06.359 the table and he doesn't know if he should eat. 1863 01:37:06.399 --> 01:37:10.600 Is so that that trick was still working. Has an 1864 01:37:10.640 --> 01:37:17.760 old trick, but no German. Uh. My grandfather was a 1865 01:37:17.840 --> 01:37:20.760 Battanian chief on a job, but he died in nineteen 1866 01:37:20.880 --> 01:37:24.039 twenty six. He worked and I mentioned anybody, I don't know. 1867 01:37:24.079 --> 01:37:25.039 What we're looking at right now? 1868 01:37:26.039 --> 01:37:26.520 His nose. 1869 01:37:26.640 --> 01:37:27.119 Oh there we go. 1870 01:37:28.760 --> 01:37:28.960 Yeah. 1871 01:37:29.039 --> 01:37:30.960 So he worked in I think it was the four 1872 01:37:31.000 --> 01:37:32.760 to two or the four to three battalions. He died 1873 01:37:32.760 --> 01:37:35.520 in nineteen twenty six, So there is a little history 1874 01:37:35.640 --> 01:37:41.800 going back. Uh. I was I was a I was 1875 01:37:41.880 --> 01:37:46.000 at twenty six trucks annual dinner dance, and I don't 1876 01:37:46.039 --> 01:37:47.960 know where how we had it, and the phone rings 1877 01:37:48.039 --> 01:37:50.720 and the and the guy was always say, were looking 1878 01:37:50.760 --> 01:37:54.359 for a Lieutenant Martin, Yeah, that's me and Lieutenant scold 1879 01:37:54.479 --> 01:37:58.000 Franks Scoldin, Yeah, we're both dear. Well you want on 1880 01:37:58.119 --> 01:38:02.319 the phone? So was battanion chief and the fourteenth Battalion. 1881 01:38:02.960 --> 01:38:06.439 That's where we were both covering. He calls up and says, look, 1882 01:38:07.359 --> 01:38:09.880 it looks like a strike tomorrow. You guys have to 1883 01:38:09.960 --> 01:38:13.199 go to fifty nine truck at six o'clock in the morning. Uh, 1884 01:38:13.359 --> 01:38:17.560 all right, So we end up going to fifty nine 1885 01:38:17.600 --> 01:38:21.680 truck six o'clock in the morning. We get in there, boys, 1886 01:38:21.760 --> 01:38:24.960 got a big pot of soup going on the on 1887 01:38:25.079 --> 01:38:28.039 the stove. All the signs and the strike signs are 1888 01:38:28.079 --> 01:38:30.920 in the corner. Everybody's sitting around because no one thinks 1889 01:38:31.239 --> 01:38:33.319 it's gonna happen. No one thinks it's gonna be strike. 1890 01:38:34.399 --> 01:38:38.199 They're sitting around bullshiting coffee in the nine o'clock. Baby, 1891 01:38:39.720 --> 01:38:43.760 the UFA is on strike. Well you could hear a 1892 01:38:43.840 --> 01:38:46.279 pin drop, no one, No one could believe it. No 1893 01:38:46.359 --> 01:38:50.640 one could believe, so UFA the union guys. All right, guys, 1894 01:38:50.720 --> 01:38:53.640 grab the signs. So we got the signs. They went 1895 01:38:53.680 --> 01:38:58.760 on the sidewalk started picketing and uh. That was the 1896 01:38:58.800 --> 01:39:03.119 beginning of the strike. And it was ah, we had 1897 01:39:03.159 --> 01:39:05.359 the two seven time was in with thirty one truck 1898 01:39:05.439 --> 01:39:08.760 and eight. So the chief comes up, has a roll call. 1899 01:39:08.840 --> 01:39:11.720 There's nine lieutenants and the captain in the firehouse. All 1900 01:39:11.760 --> 01:39:14.399 the other guys are on the sidewalk on the picket line. 1901 01:39:15.319 --> 01:39:18.439 So he says, we need somebody to drive the rig. 1902 01:39:19.319 --> 01:39:21.520 Will you drive, he asked the captain. First captain says no, 1903 01:39:22.319 --> 01:39:23.880 and he starts to think. It goes all the way 1904 01:39:23.880 --> 01:39:26.039 down line. No no, no, no, no, no, takes the 1905 01:39:26.119 --> 01:39:29.359 mark and it journally leaves cause back. About a half 1906 01:39:29.399 --> 01:39:32.239 hour later, does the same thing. No no no, no, no, no, no, 1907 01:39:34.439 --> 01:39:37.760 takes the mark, leaves come back the third time. No no, 1908 01:39:37.840 --> 01:39:40.800 no no, He says, I'm ordering all you guys out 1909 01:39:40.840 --> 01:39:43.119 of the firehouse. So we all went out of the 1910 01:39:43.159 --> 01:39:46.199 fire house and we started picketing with the guys. It 1911 01:39:46.319 --> 01:39:48.560 was one of those things that he threw us out 1912 01:39:48.560 --> 01:39:49.920 of the fire house and now there's nobody in the 1913 01:39:49.960 --> 01:39:53.520 fire house. Of course, the strike ended three hours later, 1914 01:39:53.880 --> 01:39:56.359 twelve o'clock. It was over. As soon as it ended, 1915 01:39:57.399 --> 01:40:00.600 they transmitted the box around the corner. It was third alarm. 1916 01:40:00.760 --> 01:40:03.439 The thing had been burned for an hour, so by 1917 01:40:03.520 --> 01:40:05.079 the time we got there, it was a third alarm. 1918 01:40:05.159 --> 01:40:07.800 You know, it was right around the corner. But that 1919 01:40:08.000 --> 01:40:10.720 was a terrible, terrible day for the fire department. 1920 01:40:11.520 --> 01:40:16.960 At a chief, a good friend of mine, uh asked 1921 01:40:17.000 --> 01:40:19.279 me to ask you that he made a mistake. 1922 01:40:19.359 --> 01:40:21.520 He called your house one time. He was looking for 1923 01:40:21.600 --> 01:40:22.800 a different Tommy Martin. 1924 01:40:23.960 --> 01:40:26.079 I'm going to get that better, remember, because I was 1925 01:40:26.079 --> 01:40:28.359 trying to go back and find it about Eddie. 1926 01:40:28.800 --> 01:40:31.119 Yeah, yeah, I played golf with Yeah. 1927 01:40:31.439 --> 01:40:32.560 Make a little bit, little squirrel. 1928 01:40:33.119 --> 01:40:36.479 Funny story said he was cursing your wife out my. 1929 01:40:36.520 --> 01:40:43.560 Wife when I committed. I was covered in the in 1930 01:40:43.640 --> 01:40:46.079 the fourteenth Battalion, and I commit the work next day 1931 01:40:46.079 --> 01:40:49.079 and he comes always, Oh gee, dog, I'm so sorry. 1932 01:40:49.279 --> 01:40:51.920 I just started laughing. I thought it was funny as well. 1933 01:40:52.399 --> 01:40:56.119 But uh, my wife, my wife did didn't bother how 1934 01:40:56.199 --> 01:40:57.760 much stuff funny? 1935 01:40:58.399 --> 01:40:59.840 She took trooper, she was a trooper. 1936 01:41:00.119 --> 01:41:05.720 She a trooper. If there's any other story, how much 1937 01:41:05.800 --> 01:41:07.920 time we got we got twenty minutes about it. 1938 01:41:10.039 --> 01:41:10.239 Yeah. 1939 01:41:10.359 --> 01:41:14.760 Well, well I want to mention a few people. Let's see, 1940 01:41:14.920 --> 01:41:19.079 I mentioned Owen's the band. Oh the band ninety four 1941 01:41:19.119 --> 01:41:23.399 and forty eight with JP had a famous band that 1942 01:41:23.520 --> 01:41:26.640 they would play in the back room and uh wow 1943 01:41:28.199 --> 01:41:37.479 the band that's your hat, and of course we had. Yeah, 1944 01:41:39.359 --> 01:41:42.760 Alvin has to be mentioned because what he did in 1945 01:41:42.880 --> 01:41:45.640 training is just incredible. I mean, the ten years he 1946 01:41:45.800 --> 01:41:49.920 was there turned that thing around. I mean it's it's 1947 01:41:50.359 --> 01:41:55.119 an example very fire department in the country. Just a wonderful, 1948 01:41:55.399 --> 01:42:00.720 wonderful guy and he goes everything very active and my mines. Uh, 1949 01:42:00.880 --> 01:42:02.600 well he was there for a while. Mike is running 1950 01:42:02.640 --> 01:42:03.119 the rock now. 1951 01:42:03.199 --> 01:42:03.479 I think. 1952 01:42:04.560 --> 01:42:08.039 Yes, it was fun in eighty five juries nineteen. And 1953 01:42:08.159 --> 01:42:11.560 the other thing was, uh, I wanted to thank Mickey Conboy, 1954 01:42:12.560 --> 01:42:16.039 who's the president of the U of the of the 1955 01:42:16.800 --> 01:42:21.760 oh god, my brain of the honor allegian. Uh. He 1956 01:42:21.880 --> 01:42:24.159 called me last week and as they said, they're gonna 1957 01:42:24.319 --> 01:42:26.560 they're gonna honor me on October first. I thought that 1958 01:42:26.680 --> 01:42:28.319 was very nice that he did that. Awesome. 1959 01:42:28.800 --> 01:42:35.720 Yeah you go go, bradiest of all time. 1960 01:42:36.000 --> 01:42:38.920 Yeah, it's been it's been a good run. I have 1961 01:42:39.000 --> 01:42:40.359 to say that a good bun. 1962 01:42:40.640 --> 01:42:43.600 How old are you know, Chief, uh seventy one? 1963 01:42:43.840 --> 01:42:44.920 Oh no, eighty five? 1964 01:42:48.640 --> 01:42:49.119 I was quick. 1965 01:42:49.199 --> 01:42:53.560 Guy's got jokes, got jokes, jokes, dream at the consistent 1966 01:42:53.640 --> 01:42:58.960 dream I have all ben Yeah, but very happy man. 1967 01:42:59.039 --> 01:43:02.800 I have a significant Yeah. 1968 01:43:03.560 --> 01:43:05.680 Yeah, he's trying to listen to it. 1969 01:43:05.760 --> 01:43:07.560 I think that's why he keeps putting it by. 1970 01:43:07.720 --> 01:43:07.920 Yeah. 1971 01:43:10.399 --> 01:43:13.239 And there's a lot of firemen in that family. Our 1972 01:43:13.319 --> 01:43:16.560 sister's married to uh our sister, and he's married to 1973 01:43:16.800 --> 01:43:19.520 uh Jay Patton, who was the finement over in Brooklyn. 1974 01:43:19.560 --> 01:43:20.520 I don't like to say that, but. 1975 01:43:22.359 --> 01:43:24.279 Brooklyn. 1976 01:43:25.000 --> 01:43:26.439 I don't know when he comes back, it might be 1977 01:43:26.520 --> 01:43:26.880 the time. 1978 01:43:27.199 --> 01:43:31.560 Yeah, I think something, Chief, and all three of us 1979 01:43:31.600 --> 01:43:33.399 went in the Navy and none of us ever got 1980 01:43:33.439 --> 01:43:35.159 shot at. We were in between the wars. 1981 01:43:38.000 --> 01:43:38.159 Luck. 1982 01:43:40.359 --> 01:43:43.800 Yeah, we're gonna do We're gonna do the old school 1983 01:43:43.840 --> 01:43:45.319 tip of the day now because we're losing you a 1984 01:43:45.359 --> 01:43:47.319 little bit, so we're just gonna do the the old 1985 01:43:47.359 --> 01:43:47.880 school tips. 1986 01:43:47.880 --> 01:43:49.359 Will just stand by for a second, all right. 1987 01:43:49.560 --> 01:43:52.119 Okay, I'm getting log and plugging in. 1988 01:43:52.199 --> 01:43:58.399 Okay, go ahead, yeah, plugging star, It's time for the wait. 1989 01:43:59.399 --> 01:44:01.760 The os of good. 1990 01:44:04.800 --> 01:44:05.000 Cheap. 1991 01:44:05.000 --> 01:44:08.319 I'm going to bring you in real cloak boom take 1992 01:44:08.359 --> 01:44:08.680 it away. 1993 01:44:09.960 --> 01:44:14.680 Well, for me, I think the most important thing in 1994 01:44:14.800 --> 01:44:18.840 the job today is the training. Uh you know, as 1995 01:44:18.920 --> 01:44:21.840 I said, Galvin set it up and it's they have 1996 01:44:21.920 --> 01:44:26.800 a great system over there, and there's so many different 1997 01:44:26.880 --> 01:44:29.279 things that you can you can learn. Every day you 1998 01:44:29.319 --> 01:44:32.880 can learn something new. I think it's very important the 1999 01:44:33.000 --> 01:44:36.560 training that they stay with it. I mean it's it's 2000 01:44:36.600 --> 01:44:38.680 still busy, they're still doing a lot of work, which 2001 01:44:38.760 --> 01:44:41.720 is the best training you can get. But uh, to me, 2002 01:44:42.560 --> 01:44:46.039 training is everything. So that's my tip of the day. 2003 01:44:47.199 --> 01:44:49.600 Boys, excellent, Thank. 2004 01:44:49.479 --> 01:44:51.800 You for sharing a very real stories with us. I 2005 01:44:51.880 --> 01:44:52.119 love it. 2006 01:44:52.880 --> 01:44:54.000 Pleasure it was. 2007 01:44:54.159 --> 01:44:55.680 It was fun telling those stories. 2008 01:44:57.000 --> 01:45:00.640 Anybody in trouble, no, no, no one one quick question, 2009 01:45:01.000 --> 01:45:03.479 most shift or most tour with the most runs? 2010 01:45:04.479 --> 01:45:06.159 How much? What was the most tung you had on 2011 01:45:06.239 --> 01:45:07.039 the tour? Do you remember? 2012 01:45:07.239 --> 01:45:09.760 Well? Yeah, twenty sixth tour we had over thirty one night. 2013 01:45:09.840 --> 01:45:10.159 I know that. 2014 01:45:10.359 --> 01:45:12.800 Wow, Oh god, okay, I mean we had a lot. 2015 01:45:13.000 --> 01:45:15.760 There was a lot of bullshit, but we've always had 2016 01:45:15.800 --> 01:45:16.520 a couple of jobs. 2017 01:45:16.720 --> 01:45:19.560 You know, back in the day it was several a day, 2018 01:45:19.640 --> 01:45:21.479 wasn't it on an average of what three to six d. 2019 01:45:21.840 --> 01:45:23.600 My first tour that I ever had was a. 2020 01:45:25.399 --> 01:45:25.720 No boy. 2021 01:45:25.800 --> 01:45:29.640 Okay, on Christmas Eve, we had a fifth alarm, top 2022 01:45:29.720 --> 01:45:34.399 floor lost the whole roof. It was about ten degrees 2023 01:45:34.439 --> 01:45:38.119 out freezing. I ra asked off, we're there all night. 2024 01:45:39.640 --> 01:45:43.960 So now it's like seven thirty in the morning. And 2025 01:45:44.079 --> 01:45:47.439 his chief who just he just be leaving another chief, 2026 01:45:47.479 --> 01:45:50.479 So he's just getting to the fire fires out, you know, 2027 01:45:50.560 --> 01:45:53.640 we were keeping a little bit of fire going in 2028 01:45:53.720 --> 01:45:56.800 the corner to stay warm. And he comes up. He says, 2029 01:45:56.840 --> 01:45:58.880 a lieutenant, aren't you and your man up on the 2030 01:45:58.960 --> 01:45:59.520 roof forgetting it? 2031 01:46:00.199 --> 01:46:00.399 Chief? 2032 01:46:01.159 --> 01:46:03.680 We're done? No, no, no, you start I want as 2033 01:46:03.760 --> 01:46:07.039 a chief. We're not doing any more work. We're waiting 2034 01:46:07.119 --> 01:46:12.800 for the day. Tour to me made you turny went down. 2035 01:46:14.239 --> 01:46:16.840 So now we get relieved. I go home, spend some 2036 01:46:16.920 --> 01:46:19.960 time with the family. It's Christmas day, go back to 2037 01:46:19.960 --> 01:46:23.359 the fire house. We're still at the job. Back to 2038 01:46:23.399 --> 01:46:25.760 the back to the job, freezing our balls off again 2039 01:46:25.840 --> 01:46:29.239 that night. It was a terrible, terrible tool, just one 2040 01:46:29.279 --> 01:46:32.239 of those things. Nobody got hurt, which was good, but 2041 01:46:33.760 --> 01:46:35.880 that was like a typical top floor job boy you 2042 01:46:36.199 --> 01:46:39.399 ended up the winter time. You froze your ass off. 2043 01:46:39.720 --> 01:46:47.199 Nothing. Yeah, we have anything. You muted your knuckle bird? 2044 01:46:47.479 --> 01:46:48.479 Were I get any money for this? 2045 01:46:48.560 --> 01:46:50.800 By the way, check. 2046 01:46:53.159 --> 01:46:53.880 Checks in the mail. 2047 01:46:56.399 --> 01:46:59.720 Uh George Heary, the president of the Five Chiefs Association, 2048 01:47:00.000 --> 01:47:07.159 and Rocco Rinaldi and uh yeah, I'm I'm I'm the 2049 01:47:07.479 --> 01:47:10.720 second vice president, so I'm still active with that. But 2050 01:47:11.039 --> 01:47:12.920 we just want to say thanks to all those guys, 2051 01:47:13.479 --> 01:47:17.199 Isa and uh, Charlie Clark, all those. 2052 01:47:17.039 --> 01:47:19.319 Guys trying to get Rocco to come on the show. 2053 01:47:19.359 --> 01:47:20.239 Give them a little nudge. 2054 01:47:20.520 --> 01:47:24.000 Well. Sad thing is we had the col founding Monday 2055 01:47:24.079 --> 01:47:27.359 fights us col Founding which Rocco runs the Big Raffle. 2056 01:47:27.520 --> 01:47:30.159 His mother died that day. A right. I was at 2057 01:47:30.199 --> 01:47:32.079 the way because I'm going to the funeral tomorrow morning. 2058 01:47:32.159 --> 01:47:34.800 She was ninety six, So I'll sign up. 2059 01:47:34.720 --> 01:47:37.039 For sign the papers. We'll sign the papers for that 2060 01:47:37.640 --> 01:47:39.000 to me too. Yeah. 2061 01:47:39.159 --> 01:47:41.319 The only thing is is only fifteen years away. That's 2062 01:47:41.359 --> 01:47:41.840 what scares me. 2063 01:47:44.840 --> 01:47:46.159 Gods any shout outs. 2064 01:47:45.960 --> 01:47:46.920 But no, no. 2065 01:47:47.079 --> 01:47:48.560 I mentioned my niece earlier. I want to give a 2066 01:47:48.560 --> 01:47:50.560 little shotow. She's been good to me, but we have 2067 01:47:50.640 --> 01:47:53.239 to do something with her. And fireman and alcohol you 2068 01:47:53.279 --> 01:47:54.960 know how you. 2069 01:47:55.000 --> 01:47:58.880 Know cute coontenders too. They love it. Yeah, I want 2070 01:47:58.920 --> 01:48:00.800 to I mentioned. I mentioned my brother jim Man. My 2071 01:48:00.880 --> 01:48:03.239 brother Bob mart was a five usher started and one 2072 01:48:03.319 --> 01:48:05.239 thirty two truck and sixty eight great guy. 2073 01:48:05.800 --> 01:48:11.560 I just wanted to mention him. Sure, sure, yes, thank 2074 01:48:12.000 --> 01:48:12.680 you kept it real. 2075 01:48:14.319 --> 01:48:17.000 I enjoy I hope everybody enjoyed it. I talk with 2076 01:48:17.079 --> 01:48:18.279 you guys telling the stories. 2077 01:48:18.600 --> 01:48:20.600 Yeah, and I get of invitation next year for the 2078 01:48:20.640 --> 01:48:21.079 boat trip. 2079 01:48:21.439 --> 01:48:24.079 Second week in August. We take out a boat with 2080 01:48:24.159 --> 01:48:24.680 all the guests. 2081 01:48:25.960 --> 01:48:28.319 As we said to all the guys, wait, wait is 2082 01:48:28.359 --> 01:48:28.800 it is? 2083 01:48:28.840 --> 01:48:29.560 It? Is it free? 2084 01:48:30.239 --> 01:48:30.680 Yes, it is. 2085 01:48:31.319 --> 01:48:36.159 I'll be the right words for me, for me, baby, 2086 01:48:37.359 --> 01:48:39.439 I'll pick I'll pick you up, chief, no problem. 2087 01:48:40.920 --> 01:48:41.960 You don't even have to drive. 2088 01:48:42.439 --> 01:48:45.840 All right, All right, guys, we will see you next Thursday. 2089 01:48:45.960 --> 01:48:49.960 You have another fdi ony guy on join us. Until then. 2090 01:48:50.359 --> 01:48:51.920 You know what I say, rough, what do I say? 2091 01:48:52.640 --> 01:48:53.960 Stay long and go? 2092 01:48:54.199 --> 01:48:57.079 Oh there you go, guys, we'll see it the big one. Everybody. 2093 01:48:57.159 --> 01:48:59.359 Thank you very much. Yeah, thank you so much. 2094 01:49:00.000 --> 01:49:02.840 Remember we're rolling heavy in South Florida. Stay salty, everybody,