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Dogmanencounters dot com Forward slash podcast. Hey everyone, thanks so

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much for joining us for another livestream episode of Dogman

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Encounters Radio. I really appreciate you being here, As I'm

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sure a lot of you noticed, I advertised that there

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is going to be a special midweek episode of the

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show on Tuesday night where James was going to be

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coming back to answer some questions. I had a bunch

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of questions. I still have a bunch of questions to

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ask him, and I figured a lot of you in

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the live chat would as well well. Unfortunately, right before

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we started that show, his internet went down. We're hoping

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that it was going to come back up, but I

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guess it just wasn't meant to be. So what I

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did is I got back with him and I've got

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him rescheduled to come on this Monday night to do

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that part two episodes, So please try not to forget

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Monday night at nine pm Eastern time, I'll have James

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back on here to answer all those questions. Both mine

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and yours in the live chat as well. Well. Having

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said that, without any further ado, let's get to tonight's show.

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For tonight, I've got Jim Powell coming on.

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Speaker 2: Jim, what's up?

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for being here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for having me. Man. How you doing?

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Speaker 1: Oh, fear to Midland? How about yourself?

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Speaker 2: Better than I deserve?

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Speaker 1: Brother, I know the feeling there. Well, Jim, please give

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us a brief bio on yourself.

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Speaker 2: Sure, sure, so. Obviously my name is Jim. I am

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the host of the Night's Watch and you can find

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me on the YouTube's I'm a pretty cool dude and

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I do a lot of the same stuff here, you know.

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I'm sure you guys are quite familiar. I interview folks.

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You know, plenty of people that have stories, lots of

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researchers that are out in the field. I'm sure you'll

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find some names that you know. I also go out

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into the field myself and do some filming out there

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for the channel.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: I've dropped my first little mini doc not too long ago.

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It's called Enigma in the Smokies. It's a great time.

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It's a great little video considering I had not even

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one hundred dollars worth of you know, equipment for the budget,

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but had some really cool interesting things out there happen.

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And yeah, I'm also a cameraman for Relic Films, So yeah,

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that's a little about me.

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Speaker 1: When do you have time to sleep.

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Speaker 2: Every night? Every night, I sleep like the dead, brother.

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Speaker 1: I'll bet you do. After doing all that, you know

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that can't be easy to get it all done. That's

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awfully impressive. You hold it together.

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Speaker 2: Though doing my best, doing my best, I do need

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to kind of step back a little bit, you know.

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I'm going to make a small change to the way

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I'm going to start moving to seasons and that'll kind

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of like open the window up for me to do

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some more editing, film work and stuff like that to

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make the more interesting, better products for field work, and

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more of them. So if you guys going like watching

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folks go out into the woods, especially a hillbilly like

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me from Alabama, might want to come hang with me.

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Speaker 1: And their worse things they can do for a good time,

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Speaker 2: Say, oh yeah, oh yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 1: That's one of those things you know when you hang

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around a ladies man, there's always that fall off tendency

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where the women that aren't interested in him for whatever reason,

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you've got that potential, they're going to be interested in you. Well,

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When you hear people talk about cryptid magnets, this guy

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right here, he's a cryptid slash paranormal magnet in the essence.

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I mean, he is. Just all the experiences he's had

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just ridiculous. But some people are that way for whatever reason.

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the question have you ever played with the Wiji board

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of Fife, Alabama, we used to be known for UFOs

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like my wife's side of the family has a big

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connection and role into the events that happened here in five.

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police and stuff like that of five and getting to

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hear the like everybody's perspectives, I can safely say that

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I'm very sure that my grandfather in law, after his

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son had an experience in the field one night, is

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responsible for ending the UFO flap. But I also got

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to say the the flap ended in quotations because you know,

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it still happens, you know, And I saw them all

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the time, all at night, and you know, I heard

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the C five stuff and I was like, man, this

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stuff is pretty hippy dippy, but you know he's having

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some amazing results. Why not try it? And I did

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multiple nights in a row and then all of a sudden,

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something kind of showed up in the at the end

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of the driveway one night, and it gave me a

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special flavor of PTSD, I guess you could say. But

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after that, you know, things kind of took a turn

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for the worst started going downhill. And I've had so

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many paranormal experiences since then, you know, And it really

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didn't change for me up until I got my life

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right with God. But that's a different story now. Guys,

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if y'all want to hear any of that, feel free

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to hang out on my channel. I have documented everything,

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you know, so it runs the gambit from aliens to

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shadow entities to bigfoot dog Man, which is what we're

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here to talk about tonight, and just even a giant

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spider is thrown in there. So it gets crazy. It

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gets crazy.

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Speaker 1: So I was doing fine when you were talking about

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your experiences until you told me about that giant spider

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that you ran into.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that was a weird one, man, That was that

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was a weird one. I don't I don't know really

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what to think about that. I know that if I

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could go back in time, I would have had a

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flame thorer readily available I did try to pull my

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nine millimeter out on it, but as soon as I

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got my hand on the firearm, it took off into

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the tall grass. But we'll get to that here a

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little while.

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Speaker 1: Sure. Wow, yeah, that's not good. The idea that giant

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spiders are out there in addition everything else. Yeah, that

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isn't my idea of a good time.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, not in the.

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Speaker 1: Least before I get onto my first question for you.

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I see An's got a good question of her own.

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She wants to know what is a CE five.

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Speaker 2: So CE five is something that mister Greer came up with.

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It's like it's close Encounters of the fifth kind. It's

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it's a essentially like a meditation type thing, while you're

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also like broadcasting signals that were recorded into a crop

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that was recorded from a crop circle across walkie talkies.

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I mean, it's a lot of different and yet all

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together the same things kind of going on with it.

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you know, kind of help guide you guys and the

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audience about that is C five is a bad hot no,

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trust me. You might as well be playing with the

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Luigi board because you're asking entities to come in and

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interact with you, and that's never a good thing. You know.

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It got extremely sideways for me, and yeah, it was

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a very bad time and it made my life really

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hard for a long time until you know, I started

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getting smarter about things and kind of got a little

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bit of a grasp and figured stuff out. So I'd

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say stay away from it. But I'm also not going

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to tell you what to do, not your daddy. So

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I hope that answers your question.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good way to answer it. I just

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wish you knew the risks you'd be taking before you Actually,

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well maybe you did know the risks, but I just

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wish you wouldn't have done that because, yeah, probably not

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done yet having experiences.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is true, but it's a little bit

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different now. You know, I don't I'm not afraid to

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go out into the woods and you know, encounter things. Now,

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you know, things don't come searching for me to, for

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lack of a better word, torture me anymore. Now I

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am bold about what I do and confident with who

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to expose them. So, okay, it's a little bit a

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little bit different. You know. It's I guess that's what

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makes me a good camera man for one thing, for relic,

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because you know, when things get a little hairy out

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there in the woods, I ain't backing down because as

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far as I'm concerned, there's worse hills to die on.

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Speaker 1: Well, one thing's for sure. You definitely know frighten easily.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I said, a special, a little touch of PTSD.

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I don't know what that little flavor is that I

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got out of all that, But yeah, I ain't running.

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I ain't running no more.

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Speaker 1: So you're not sipping through a straw for the rest

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of your life way most people would after having a

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third of the experiences that you've had. So that says

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it all right there for me, it does all right. Jim,

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give us every last detail that comes to mind.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's get into some meat and taters here,

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all right. So this is before I got my life

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kind of straightened out, and I was still going through

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all kinds of experiences, and I believe it would be

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at my notes, but essentially I had just kind of

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come on to the subject of dog Man. You know,

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I've heard about everything else for forever since I was little,

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and when dog Man came up, you know, in a

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more interesting ways, people started beginning to like report the experiences.

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I found it just absolutely fascinating. Like I was like, Wow,

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you know, but this is a little bit extra, you know,

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and my brain is like, how do I figure out

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what this is? Like this doesn't make sense evolutionarily or

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something like that. I'm like, this is this is neat.

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I want to dive into it. Right. So I would

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say I was probably consuming dog Man content every podcast

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I could find, you know, for eight to ten hours

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every day while I'm at work, because I'm a welder,

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you know, I've got my hood down and I'm listening

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to whatever I want to all night long. So I'm

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consuming this stuff constantly and just trying to wrap my

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head around it, you know. And it's weird because I

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remember that one night, I believe it was a Friday night,

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it was the last break of our shift, and for

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a couple nights in a row. I guess I should say,

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this very large dog kept showing up on our break

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to hang out with us. And you know, I've never

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my frame of reference, it looked like a big husky

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things like one hundred and fifty pounds in bulky. And

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you know, it didn't really pay me much attention. You know,

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everybody else that was out there was feeding it tater

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chips and beef jerky, and it wanted to hang out

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with them more. But you know, the thing, strangely enough,

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did have a collar on it. And I promise you

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all this will make sense later on as we go

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through this, but it did have a collar on it.

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If there's a number, we call the number and this

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kid comes and picks it up while he's driving or

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driving riding on his bike. And it's like a little

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fourteen year old kid. He's driving around a city called

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a rab Alabama, you know, at nine something at night.

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I guess he's being like a super edge lord or

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something like. He fits that persona very well and a slight.

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You know, history of that area is there is a

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large population of people there that are really really into

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the occult. You know, I don't know the whyse I

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just know that it's there and that it's been there

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for a very long time. And anyways, you know, we

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call the kid. He comes and picks it up. He's like, oh, yeah, sorry,

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she broke off the chain. And he holds up this

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chain and it's like a logging chain. It's huge. It's

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like and we're all like, how okay, this is a

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big dog. But how in the world did it break

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off of that? You know, And and it kept happening

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until that very last night, and you know, I'm not

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paying much attention to it, like I don't got the

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beef jerky. It don't care about me. And you know,

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I'm still keeping on and listening and trying to research

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about this stuff and try to wrap my head around it.

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And I remember it's at the end of the night

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when I'm fixing to go home, still got the air

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pods in and listening, and as I'm walking to the car,

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I feel like a barometric pressure shift or change, like

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this is this is something that I've noticed with a

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lot of the experiences that I have, like the atmosphere

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for lack of a better term, kind of changes and

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you feel it. It's it's it's heavy, it's statically charged,

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you know, it's it's so strange. Like I tune into

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that and I'm like, wait, what in the world. And

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then all of a sudden, I hear, you know, through

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the AirPod, something running up on me very quickly, you know,

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and all I hear is clickety clackety of claws on pavement,

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you know. And suffice it to say, this is plenty

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of time after my first round of initial experiences. I'm

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a very jumpy person at this point, still kind of

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am but you know, I have sense that I hear that,

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and I'm just like, oh no, you know, I jump

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and turn around in midair, laying in like some kind

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of Karate stance, you know, and throw my hands up.

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I'm ready to just try to not die. And then

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this thing goes skirting off away from me, and I realized,

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I'm like, it's the dog, you know. And it turns out,

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according to him, it's a wolf dog. It was like

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sixty six percent Arctic wolf, I think, he said, and

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Malmoir or something. I don't know. I don't know what

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the other part is, but you know, it's it's that dog,

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you know. And it tucks his tail and kind of

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skiters off to the side, and I feel bad. I'm like, oh,

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I'm sorry, come here, come here, I'm sorry. I didn't

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mean to scare you as much as you definitely scared me.

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And you know, it comes up and I start petting

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on it, love and on, apologizing to the thing, and

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I'm like, look, i'm sorry. Your owner seems like a

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bit of a jerk, probably not taking good care of you.

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Obviously you're off the chain again. You want to hang

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out us for whatever reason, beef jerky and uh. I'm like, look,

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I'm sorry. Look, I'd even take you home if I could,

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little puppy, because you seem really nice. But you know,

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I've got a newborn and a new puppy and i'm

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building up my own house. I'm living with my parents

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at the moment. I'm like, look, you just a big

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wolf dog like you just ain't gonna fit. So I'm sorry.

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You gotta hang out here and wait for mister Edgy

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to come and pick you up, you know. And I

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start to get in the car, and this thing is

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trying as hard as it possibly can to get into

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the car with me, and it's everything I can do.

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Just just push this thing out, be like, look, I'm sorry, no, no, no,

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you can't. This ain't gonna happen. The ain't gonna work.

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It's not you, it's me. Sorry. I eventually wrestle it

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out and close the door, you know, throw the car

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and reverse start drying. I start going down the road

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and this thing is just following me the entire time.

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I mean, it's running circles around my car, literally, and

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I don't lose it until I hit about fifty five

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miles an hour, you know. And when I finally lose it,

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you know, it's it becomes out of sight, out of mind, weird.

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But whatever, I've got research to be a doe. So

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it's an hour long drive from work to my house.

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And to have a little bit of a perspective, like

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for me where I'm at, you have to travel first

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north and then you got to cut west before you

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can get to a RAB. But if you're already in

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a RAB and you just go straight, you know, the

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opposite which would be east in a straight line as

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the crow flies at let's just say fifty miles an hour,

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you would have no problem at all catching up to me. Now,

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you know, none of this is in my mind. This

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is all hindsight, right. And I'm driving down the road.

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I'm about maybe ten miles away or so from the house,

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still listening. And as I'm fixing to go by this

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house that is close to where my adopted brother lives,

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I noticed that there is a shape on the side

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of the road. And this house, you know, it's kind

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of set off the road a good ways and it's

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got a real large fence all the way around it.

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The fence is about five feet tall, and they keep

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a bunch of sheep in there. And I see a

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shape right there at the pole, right up against the fence,

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and I'm like, is that a dog? What is that?

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And you know, I start to slow down because I mean, it's,

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for whatever reason, the sight of a dog in my

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brain is taking all of my attention, you know, And

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I throw on the high beams and I start slowing down,

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and I'm getting there and I'm getting there, and when

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I finally got a good look at this thing, I

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realize that this is not a dog. At all, gain't

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it for sure? But what I'm seeing my brain is

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not comprehending. You know. It's it's the square peg in

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a round hole situation going on right now, because what

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I see is something that looks like a giant wolf

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sitting down on the ground. And you know, this five

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foot tall fence is coming up to right here on

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this thing as it's sitting down, and you know, and

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I'll explain what it looks like here in a second,

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but you know, my brain is just like dogs or

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wolves are not that big when they sit, you know.

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And I'm just I'm basically yelling at this point in

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time as I'm in the car, I'm like, what is

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my life? You know, Like I'm literally listening about you

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right now, like how how are you there? The square

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peg isn't working? What's happening? You know? I'm mad, I'm

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yelling at it and cutting it basically, and as I'm

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like getting like right there at it, you know, luckily,

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it never really like turns to look at me. It

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just it's laser focused on the sheep that's in that yard,

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you know, And finally like sense catches up to me,

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and I'm just like, what am I doing like it's

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time to go, you know, stomp it. You know, the

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turbo in the car revs up, and I'm gone, and

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I'm still trying to like rationalize. I'm like, what what

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did I just see? You know? And it's in the

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podcast I'm listening to. Isn't helping, you know, it's dog

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Mait dog mait dog Man. And I'm just like that

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has to be dog Man. I mean, there's nothing that's

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that big, you know, I'm thinking about it, and then

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you know, like the very last detail kind of creeps

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up on me, you know, and I realized that the

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coloration of this said dog man is exactly to the

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te exact same as the wolf dog that tried to

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go home with me. And it's just kind of dawns

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on me. I'm just like, oh my gosh, like what

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what did I just see? What? What did I just

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narrowly avoid? Like what is my life? You know what

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I mean? And I'm just like whatever, get home now,

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you know. And it's crazy because you know, like I said,

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I've got this thing full on in the headlights, Like

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I see every single detail of this thing, you know,

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as I said, it's sitting down, you know, the five

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foot fence comes to hear, so I don't even know

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how big that translates to. When it stands up, you know,

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it's legs are like kind of like Indian style, I

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guess you could say, like in the way that like

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they're pointed up almost. You know, it's got a really

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flat back. The best way to describe that really is like,

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I don't know how many people in the audience have

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a dog that thinks that it's human and will sit

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on the couch and watch TV. But if you do,

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you'll know exactly what I'm talking about, because my dog

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does it. It looks exactly like that, except more straight,

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like her back can't do that quite, but like the

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position of the legs and everything, like it's exact. You know,

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this thing's got really long arms, like you know, I

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can see only like a part of the forearm as

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the rest of it is in the tall grass. And

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unlike the typical description that we kind of I guess

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you would say, see of like artists renditions of dog Man, Like,

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this thing doesn't look like the incredible furry hulk. You know,

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it's a it's not a body builder that's sitting there,

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but it is built like an athlete in the you know,

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I guess I would say like more of a basketball

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player style of a frame to it, you know, And

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it's very humanoidal and its shape and everything, like nothing

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about it is screaming wolf sitting there. You know. It's

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got this weird kind of hump or something like on

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the back of its neck that kind of goes down

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to its shoulder or maybe not it's shoulder, but like

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mid back almost, you know, and it's kind of mained

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and fluffed out. It has a very large and what

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I would say is disproportionately large head for its body.

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Like it's its body is obviously big enough, but its

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head is bigger than what I even feel like that

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should be. You know, it's got a very long and

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flat snout. You know, I can count the wrinkles and

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its jowls. It's not growling, but for whatever reason, there

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are wrinkles in it. And realistically, the only variable that

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changes from the big dog, which is you know, this

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is the only thing that gives me pause is the ears. Now,

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thank you angel. The ears are not pointed and triangular,

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you know, like what we normally see. Its ears are

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the exact shape of a German shepherd. You know, I

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don't know what's going on there with this thing. I

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don't know exactly how to wrap my head around it.

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You know, I don't know one hundred percent if the

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wolf dog is But if it wasn't the exact same

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coloration to the tea, then something else is going on.

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And I don't know, you know, is it a chicken

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or egg situation? Is somebody with somebody going through some

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kind of occultic humiliation type ritual before they could fully

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come into being a like in werewolf, whatever verbiage you

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wish to attach that, I don't know. I don't know.

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It seems to me like in that particular situation, with

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that particular entity that I saw, I leaned towards classical werewolf.

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But I don't have all the answers, and I don't know.

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But if I'm lying, I'm dying, And that is exactly

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what I saw. So there we go.

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Speaker 1: Wow, Jim, what a mind trip that must have been.

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I mean, if you just would have seen that quote

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unquote dog me in by that fence, that'd be one thing.

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But yeah, the possibility that the wolf dog that you

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wrestled with was the same thing that you saw up

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against that fence that really is a trip. How much

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more difficult was it for you to come to terms

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with that experience considering the fact that it could have

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been the same being.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that I would say that it was difficult.

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I mean, by this time, I've already experienced plenty. You know,

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it's just kind of like, you know, yesterday's flavor was peach,

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and today it's blue raspberry. Like it's ice cream. You know,

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it's another Friday night for Jim essentially. You know, I'm

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not shocked by any of it, you know. And actually,

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to be fair, my grandmother, about two weeks before this

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happened now, made a very interesting comment to me about

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something that she had saw, because, you know, me working

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second shift at that time, when I'd wake up, I'd

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come over here to work on building the house, go

472
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,039
to work, come back home, build the house, go to sleep,

473
00:31:18,319 --> 00:31:22,039
rinse and repeat. And she made the comment to me,

474
00:31:22,079 --> 00:31:25,400
She's like, hey, Bubba, have you ever seen anything weird

475
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,319
while you're over there working? Like, no, not really why.

476
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,000
She's like, I saw the strangest thing the other day

477
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,240
and I was like, oh, okay, tell me about it.

478
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,680
She's like I saw a bear out there. I'm like, bear,

479
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:49,519
like Grandma, bears have been extinctified in our area of

480
00:31:49,559 --> 00:31:55,079
Alabama for the past thirty forty years. I'm like, I

481
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,559
highly doubt that you saw a bear. She's like, well,

482
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,480
I don't know what it was, but what else is

483
00:32:01,559 --> 00:32:05,640
that big? That tall and can walk around on two

484
00:32:05,759 --> 00:32:12,519
legs and has a muzzle, Like, Oh, I don't know

485
00:32:12,599 --> 00:32:17,799
what color? Was it black? Like, oh, well, theoretically it

486
00:32:17,839 --> 00:32:19,680
can only be one of two things that I can

487
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:24,839
think of. But no, I really haven't had anything crazy

488
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,400
happened to me out there. But the fact that you're

489
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,160
mentioning this to me now is disconcerting. But thank you

490
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:35,839
for the warning. I appreciate that. Yeah, so I don't know,

491
00:32:36,119 --> 00:32:39,720
you know, my the research area that I do, like,

492
00:32:39,759 --> 00:32:43,839
that's you know, local to me. You know, ten miles

493
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:48,640
up the road the other way has a history you

494
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,839
know that's even recorded going back into the eighteen fifties,

495
00:32:52,319 --> 00:32:58,440
you know, with all kinds of strange phenomenon from bigfoot,

496
00:32:59,119 --> 00:33:03,480
goat man, and ghostly apparitions, and like, you know, granted,

497
00:33:03,519 --> 00:33:06,759
I'm sure plenty of bridges out there in America have

498
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,279
the same kind of lore, but I mean, you know,

499
00:33:10,599 --> 00:33:12,839
that's only ten miles that way. I live in five

500
00:33:13,039 --> 00:33:15,680
where we were at once. I'm like the UFO Capital

501
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,960
of the World or something. I mean, shoot, we even

502
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,200
made it into the pages of Hunt for the skin Walker.

503
00:33:20,359 --> 00:33:27,400
You know, I've been around it enough. I'm not really

504
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,119
surprised by any of it at this point. So maybe

505
00:33:31,119 --> 00:33:32,039
that answers the question.

506
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good way to answer it. I was

507
00:33:35,599 --> 00:33:38,240
wonder how you felt about that. That's the kind of

508
00:33:38,279 --> 00:33:41,359
experience right there, Jim, where you have that experience and

509
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,759
you lie in bed all night trying to wrap your

510
00:33:43,799 --> 00:33:46,359
mind around what in the world just happened.

511
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, to be fair, that night I definitely

512
00:33:51,039 --> 00:33:55,839
did do that. You know, I was contemplating it for

513
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,359
the night, but after that it was just another day,

514
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,599
another dollar. Get over it pretty quick.

515
00:34:02,519 --> 00:34:05,759
Speaker 1: Well, that's a good quality to have. You said that

516
00:34:05,799 --> 00:34:09,199
you wrestled that wolf dog out of your car. Did

517
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,400
you ever get the impression that let you force it

518
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,480
out of your car?

519
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 2: I mean, as big and heavy as that thing was,

520
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,400
if it really wanted to overpower me or hurt me,

521
00:34:23,519 --> 00:34:28,199
it easily could have. You know, I don't I don't

522
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,679
think that I could have stopped it if it really

523
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,599
wanted to do anything, whether that be perceived as nice

524
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,159
or bad. So probably.

525
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,760
Speaker 1: MX is a good question for you. They want to know,

526
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,000
does Jim have any scars from that fight?

527
00:34:47,519 --> 00:34:51,199
Speaker 2: When I say wrestle, it's like your dog is trying

528
00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:54,400
to sit on your lap and I'm trying to get

529
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,519
it off. You know, I'm not literally fighting a bear

530
00:34:58,639 --> 00:35:01,880
out there. No, no, no, it's figure of speech. You know,

531
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:07,639
it didn't. It didn't hurt me enough to really speak

532
00:35:07,679 --> 00:35:10,159
on or really like, you know, take note of.

533
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:15,280
Speaker 1: So no, No, that's the thing I just don't understand it.

534
00:35:15,639 --> 00:35:18,519
Of course I could have forced sway into the car

535
00:35:18,639 --> 00:35:21,280
and it wouldn't have been a thing at all you

536
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,519
could have done to stop it. But what's the purpose

537
00:35:24,559 --> 00:35:26,559
of it doing that? Making you think that I was

538
00:35:26,599 --> 00:35:29,599
trying to get into the car when it obviously didn't

539
00:35:29,599 --> 00:35:33,039
want to. It's the same thing like the fact that

540
00:35:33,079 --> 00:35:35,039
these guys go so far out of the way to

541
00:35:35,119 --> 00:35:38,719
terrorize eyewitnesses when they're doing all they can to make

542
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,599
you think they want to rip you apart, but they

543
00:35:40,639 --> 00:35:43,800
obviously don't because they don't do that, and they're in

544
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,000
total control of the situation. I mean, if they wanted

545
00:35:47,039 --> 00:35:49,679
to do that, there wouldn't be a single thing stopping them.

546
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,719
So it just makes you wonder what the motivations are.

547
00:35:53,039 --> 00:35:56,239
I've postulated for years at it's because there are APEX

548
00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:00,719
predators with a ridiculous amount of intelligence and just bored

549
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,480
and they do this sort of thing to entertain themselves.

550
00:36:03,519 --> 00:36:06,280
But that's just a supposition. We don't know.

551
00:36:07,039 --> 00:36:12,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's the thing, you know. It's it's

552
00:36:12,639 --> 00:36:15,599
hard to pin down any of this, you know, realistically,

553
00:36:16,159 --> 00:36:20,760
you know, and I have the answers that you know,

554
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,280
I wanted to get. I guess you could say that

555
00:36:24,519 --> 00:36:28,360
out of the culmination of my experiences, you know, And

556
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,239
and like I said, you know, it wasn't until you know,

557
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,559
I gave my life back to Christ and started living

558
00:36:33,639 --> 00:36:37,880
right and trying to be a good person that all

559
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,800
of these experiences you know, changed for me. Now, granted,

560
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,239
I'm not going to sit up here and like, you know,

561
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,519
beat everybody over the head with Bible. You know, that's

562
00:36:45,559 --> 00:36:48,480
not what I do, So rest easy out there, folks.

563
00:36:49,039 --> 00:36:55,119
But I mean that is the way things happened for me,

564
00:36:55,280 --> 00:37:00,960
you know, Like nothing stopped and it just kept on

565
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,559
going until I made that change. And when you kind

566
00:37:05,559 --> 00:37:09,960
of start looking into things and you start looking at

567
00:37:10,159 --> 00:37:14,119
you know, spiritual warfare, you kind of learn a little

568
00:37:14,159 --> 00:37:19,000
bit about how that stuff works. You'll look at things

569
00:37:19,039 --> 00:37:23,199
like and say, the Book of Revelation, right where like

570
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,400
the beasts of the field, you know, have like this

571
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,559
thing lifted over them and all of a sudden they

572
00:37:28,599 --> 00:37:34,400
go out and they un alive a third of the population. Well,

573
00:37:34,519 --> 00:37:39,719
the interesting thing about that is in the Greek, that

574
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,960
word is translated from theory on. If I'm not mistaken,

575
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,360
I'm my ancient Greek ain't the best, but I'm pretty

576
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:50,039
sure that's how that goes. But when you look into

577
00:37:50,119 --> 00:37:54,840
what that word is, it is essentially describing a chimera,

578
00:37:56,079 --> 00:37:59,920
you know, something that is pieced together to make this

579
00:38:00,119 --> 00:38:04,119
monster for lack of a better term. And you know,

580
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:10,480
with all the experiences that I've had with this stuff,

581
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:14,480
it makes me wonder if you know, yeah, they can

582
00:38:15,519 --> 00:38:19,079
really mess you up if they have legal right to

583
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:24,280
do so. But if they don't, they're just gonna scare

584
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:28,239
the but Jesus out of you, you know. But that's

585
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,199
just my opinion. That's like, that's where my head goes

586
00:38:31,199 --> 00:38:34,599
with it, you know, that's just that's just me. So

587
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:39,000
maybe that can answer somebody their question, pull a little

588
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:43,800
thread and you know whatever. That's just what I feel

589
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,480
about the whole thing personally.

590
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,159
Speaker 1: When it comes to something like this, it's so hard

591
00:38:49,199 --> 00:38:52,280
to put your thumb on. It's so hard to get

592
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,079
answers for so many things to do with dog Man,

593
00:38:55,559 --> 00:38:57,920
the answers are going to come from tons and tons

594
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,440
of different directions. You just have to put the puzzle together.

595
00:39:01,519 --> 00:39:03,320
I guess that's the best way to put it.

596
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 2: And there's definitely different varieties of them out there, you know,

597
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:11,360
with mine, I say where wolf maybe, but you know

598
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:15,280
where wolf skinwalk or tomato tomato? You know, government created

599
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:21,119
things that are essentially kaimrash to what's the what's the

600
00:39:21,119 --> 00:39:24,559
word I'm looking for sin Acephali, you know, not to mention,

601
00:39:24,639 --> 00:39:26,599
you know, the Fillen angels and what they did post

602
00:39:26,639 --> 00:39:29,519
flood and stuff like that. Like, there seems to be

603
00:39:29,679 --> 00:39:33,519
a lot of routes and avenues that these types of

604
00:39:33,599 --> 00:39:37,760
creatures can come from. To be fair, there might even

605
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,360
be some kind of flesh and blood thing out there

606
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:45,079
that is that constantly all the time that can account

607
00:39:45,119 --> 00:39:47,480
for some things too, Like I don't know, I just

608
00:39:47,559 --> 00:39:49,760
know that the world is a crazy place and it's

609
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,119
really really interesting.

610
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:57,639
Speaker 1: So if we only knew the half of it, right, yeah, definitely.

611
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,960
I've got a question for you from Kei Geats and

612
00:40:01,079 --> 00:40:03,800
Kiel wants to know, Jim, what did the dog man

613
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,159
that was in your car smell? Like? I need to know?

614
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, so there's a slight kind of musk to it.

615
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:24,480
It's not like it wasn't an overpowering, you know thing. Granted,

616
00:40:24,519 --> 00:40:28,440
this is the dog so not the dog man, so

617
00:40:29,199 --> 00:40:32,360
I didn't stop to take it with and ask it questions.

618
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:37,519
But you know, like I'll point out the coloration and

619
00:40:37,559 --> 00:40:39,400
I think that might have a little bit to do

620
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:43,440
with it, and that, you know, like it's stomach is white,

621
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,000
its back has like a really dark charcoally gray streak

622
00:40:48,039 --> 00:40:50,760
going down it, But the sides, you know, like it's

623
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:57,119
flank looks like a you know, like a really dirty

624
00:40:57,199 --> 00:41:00,239
dog that's kind of pea stained white, almost like it's

625
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:07,239
almost like a really dingy blonde. I wonder if if

626
00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:13,719
the must musty smell that I got from it would

627
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,800
account for that, because you know, whenever I see that color,

628
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:22,360
I just associate it with neglected and you know, traumatized

629
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,920
dog because that's the color that that was, you know,

630
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,639
and it, like I said, it wasn't really overpowering. It's

631
00:41:29,679 --> 00:41:34,239
not something that really sticks out, you know, boldly as

632
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:41,119
a detail. But I would say dingy, musty ish, you know,

633
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,679
at that point in the story. If that answers the question.

634
00:41:46,559 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: It's bad enough being a couple of steps away from

635
00:41:49,679 --> 00:41:52,400
having one in your car and having that smell linger

636
00:41:52,519 --> 00:41:54,800
on the way home. That wouldn't be my idea of fun.

637
00:41:55,639 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, yeah, yeah, yeah at all.

638
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: Looks like deep And he wants to know came in

639
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:07,519
late what state? Did this sighting occur? Daytime and weather conditions?

640
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 2: Sure, so this was in the state of Alabama, the

641
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,960
northeast region of it. It would be an a rab

642
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,519
for the dog part of it. And where I saw

643
00:42:18,639 --> 00:42:22,760
on the side of the road would be technically, I

644
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,199
believe in the small city of Painter before you get

645
00:42:26,199 --> 00:42:33,800
to Geraldine. Time of day, this would be around twelve

646
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:40,880
twenty ish am. It would be in the fall time,

647
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,719
well not fall, no, no how long spring. It would

648
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:48,920
be in the springtime. I would say probably March, late March,

649
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:53,679
so probably in the sixties here And as far as

650
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:57,679
anything else weather related, I remember it just being a

651
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,679
clear night, so I don't think was much in the

652
00:43:00,679 --> 00:43:05,840
way of rainfall or anything that would precipitate too much

653
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,400
data from that particular amount of points.

654
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 1: How far would it have had to travel, in your opinion,

655
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,800
to get to where you wrestled with that wolf dog

656
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,519
quote unquote wolf dog to keep it out of your

657
00:43:18,559 --> 00:43:20,360
car or to get it out of your car to

658
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,800
where you saw that creature, that being by the fence.

659
00:43:25,559 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 2: As the crow flies, probably about fifteen to twenty miles,

660
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:36,000
maybe twenty five at the most, somewhere within that range.

661
00:43:36,079 --> 00:43:38,320
Like I said, from my route, I have to go

662
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,920
north a good ways before I can turn back west,

663
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:46,360
So I don't know the exact mileage of what that

664
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:46,719
would be.

665
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: Well, that's a pretty good distance. What kind of time

666
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,559
are we talking about? How long did it take you

667
00:43:52,639 --> 00:43:55,159
to get from that one spot to where you saw

668
00:43:55,199 --> 00:43:56,960
that creature by the fence.

669
00:43:57,679 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 2: So that would have been at the forty five minute

670
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,880
mark for me and my trip, Like I said, I

671
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:07,599
was almost home about ten miles maybe fifteen at the most.

672
00:44:09,199 --> 00:44:13,599
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, if it was about twenty miles and we're

673
00:44:13,639 --> 00:44:16,119
looking at that time frame, if it was the same being,

674
00:44:16,159 --> 00:44:18,119
it really had to be moving fast, if it was

675
00:44:18,159 --> 00:44:22,639
moving conventionally conventionally, but if it did have the ability

676
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,360
to just wink out one spot and appear in another,

677
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,599
then that's a whole another ball of wax.

678
00:44:28,639 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 2: That's true. And you know, to be fair, like this

679
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,039
actually does bring up a bit of a question, you know,

680
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:40,599
is it a chicken or an egg type situation? Because

681
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,719
you know, if I've already mentioned that things were pretty

682
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,519
much messing with me at this point of all different varieties.

683
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:53,480
You know, could something ethereal out there that wants to

684
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,599
mess with me be like, Hey, I want to mess

685
00:44:56,639 --> 00:44:59,599
with him today? How do I do that? Oh? He's

686
00:44:59,639 --> 00:45:04,360
listening to dog Man right now. Let's do dog Man? Cool? Okay,

687
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,400
what's dog Man look like? Just just copy the wolf

688
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,400
dog that was crazy? Just do that? You know, is

689
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:15,159
that a possibility? Sure, I mean, anything is possible. And

690
00:45:16,199 --> 00:45:21,400
I don't know. But you know, questions are valid, and

691
00:45:21,559 --> 00:45:26,480
I don't have the answers I wish I did. Maybe

692
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,159
maybe I don't want to know what the answer actually is.

693
00:45:29,199 --> 00:45:31,599
That might be it might be a little hard to

694
00:45:31,599 --> 00:45:34,039
sleep through. I don't I don't.

695
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,559
Speaker 1: Well, you know what they say, be careful what you

696
00:45:35,599 --> 00:45:35,960
wish for.

697
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,199
Speaker 2: Ooh, that's a big one. That is a big one.

698
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, they say that for a reason too. Let's ask

699
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,960
another question from the live chat. Pull up a good one.

700
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:53,960
This one is from Liman one on one and he

701
00:45:54,039 --> 00:45:56,400
wants to know, Jim, what would you do if you

702
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,400
were able to catch it? Would you want to.

703
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,199
Speaker 2: That's a good question. That depends. That depends a lot.

704
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,719
Uh Do I have titanium chains to wrap this thing

705
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:15,000
up in? Because if so, and I'm perfectly safe in quotations.

706
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,440
I mean, it'd probably make for good television or something

707
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,000
to interview such a thing, you know. It just it

708
00:46:23,079 --> 00:46:28,320
depends on what it actually is. Because if it's something

709
00:46:28,559 --> 00:46:32,920
more along the lines of supernatural in terms of chimera

710
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:38,559
or something you know, along those lines, no, I wouldn't

711
00:46:38,559 --> 00:46:40,519
want nothing to do with that, you know, if it

712
00:46:40,679 --> 00:46:45,159
is awarewolf within the classical sense of things. You know,

713
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,400
my time frame at that point in time would still

714
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:52,480
say no, I want nothing to do with that. My time,

715
00:46:53,119 --> 00:46:56,199
like my mind frame of today would say, that's still

716
00:46:56,239 --> 00:47:02,440
a human being. They're not dead yet. Can I minister

717
00:47:02,559 --> 00:47:05,719
to them, you know, and try to pull them out

718
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:09,159
of this demonic power that seems to have control of them.

719
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:16,119
You know, that's what I would say, But I mean still, ultimately, man,

720
00:47:16,199 --> 00:47:18,239
life's too short to tangle with the dog man, whether

721
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,519
you got chains or not that'll hold it. You know,

722
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,440
clearly this giant logging chain couldn't even restrain the dog

723
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:31,320
let alone, the bigger, different and changed version that I saw.

724
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:36,440
So I don't know, that's a that's a good question,

725
00:47:36,559 --> 00:47:38,599
good question, Yeah, for.

726
00:47:38,519 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 1: So many reasons. It's so hard to even wrap your

727
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,920
mind around what it would take to catch one of

728
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,599
these things. I don't even know what it would take.

729
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,199
Speaker 2: Who knows. I don't think silver I don't think silver

730
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,760
Bullet's going to do it. But that's just me, No,

731
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:53,599
I don't think so.

732
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,599
Speaker 1: In there, as a guy who's had several Sasquatch encounters

733
00:47:57,599 --> 00:47:59,840
as well as that won with a possible dog in,

734
00:48:00,559 --> 00:48:02,800
how would you compere in contrast what it's like to

735
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,880
have encounters with a dog man compared to a Sasquatch.

736
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:12,639
Speaker 2: It's one hundred percent different, one hundred percent different Bigfoot

737
00:48:13,079 --> 00:48:20,880
or Sasquatch, and my interactions with them are more, uh

738
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:25,400
almost almost kind of skittish in a way, like they

739
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,760
don't really go out of their way to freak you out.

740
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,440
They will, don't get me wrong, Like you got one

741
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:36,199
that's gonna be really territorial and want to prove to

742
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,719
you who's boss. That's gonna be one hundred percent different.

743
00:48:39,199 --> 00:48:41,159
You know, you might get bluff charged, you might have

744
00:48:41,199 --> 00:48:46,079
stuff you know, thrown at, you get hit within for sound.

745
00:48:46,079 --> 00:48:50,280
I mean like there's they will mess with you, but

746
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:59,840
generally speaking, that only seems to go so far. Whereas

747
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:06,360
as dog Man, I feel like they're all about like

748
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,760
the mind games, you know what I mean, Like they

749
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,840
really want to worm their way into your head and

750
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,800
just mess with you as much as they possibly can

751
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:20,079
and just scare you to death. You know. It's it's

752
00:49:20,119 --> 00:49:25,159
the weirdest thing. I'd rather deal with Bigfoot than I

753
00:49:25,199 --> 00:49:30,719
would dog Man. I can promise you that I've dealt

754
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:34,960
with plenty of them while in field and filming, you know,

755
00:49:35,039 --> 00:49:42,880
like they're It's way easier to deal with why I

756
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:47,320
don't know. I have a theory but I ultimately don't know.

757
00:49:50,119 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: Well, that's the ultimate source of wisdom, right there. Being

758
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,719
able to say I don't know instead of trying to

759
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:57,760
claim that you do know, do have the answers to

760
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,960
a lot of these questions. I told you before, there's

761
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,239
so many questions about these guys. We're never going to

762
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,679
have the answers to. All we can do is guess,

763
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:11,239
and that's all there is to it. Yeah, definitely, all right, Jim,

764
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,559
I can't wait any longer. The giant Spider. You've got

765
00:50:14,559 --> 00:50:15,440
to tell us about that.

766
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:22,559
Speaker 2: The giant spider. Okay, So the giant spider situation happened

767
00:50:22,559 --> 00:50:26,880
about two weeks after the very first thing that kind

768
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:28,679
of kicked all this off for me, you know, the

769
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,960
alien in the driveway, you know. And like I said, guys,

770
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:33,920
if you want to hear more about that, go check

771
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,800
me out on my channel. I've got everything documented. It's

772
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:43,679
a good story. But anyways, i am in the process

773
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:48,440
of moving out of that trailer, you know, for obvious reasons,

774
00:50:48,559 --> 00:50:51,880
and I'm getting ready to go to school that morning

775
00:50:52,079 --> 00:50:55,440
because I was in college at the time, and I'm

776
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:59,039
coming out of the door and I'm walking to the car,

777
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,800
and as I'm to get out and start walking down

778
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,440
the steps, I noticed that there's something on the tree

779
00:51:04,519 --> 00:51:08,000
over here that's kind of moving, you know, and my

780
00:51:08,119 --> 00:51:11,719
brain it just kind of registers it as squirrel. You know,

781
00:51:12,039 --> 00:51:15,320
don't pay no mind. You know, I keep walking and

782
00:51:15,039 --> 00:51:18,199
I'm fixing to get to the car. Then all of

783
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:25,679
a sudden, this shaking shape moves and darts down the tree,

784
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,719
and then it goes and stands right in the middle

785
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:33,199
of the dirt road. And oddly enough, it does stand

786
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,679
in the exact place where I saw that entity that night.

787
00:51:36,559 --> 00:51:38,960
I don't know if the two are connected. Probably not,

788
00:51:39,039 --> 00:51:43,199
but maybe, but who knows. Anyways, you know, it just

789
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,039
stops right there in the middle of the dirt road

790
00:51:45,039 --> 00:51:49,000
and it lies flat. It's got four legs going forward,

791
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:53,920
four legs going back. It is a spider. Now, this

792
00:51:54,119 --> 00:51:58,719
spider is the size of my car tire. I'm lying,

793
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,840
I'm dying, y'all. And by car tire, I do not

794
00:52:02,039 --> 00:52:06,239
mean the rim No, I mean rim plus tire. I

795
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,079
mean it's see if I get in here, I mean,

796
00:52:09,079 --> 00:52:12,039
it's like every bit of like this big around, you know,

797
00:52:12,199 --> 00:52:16,360
all spread out. You know, it's like it's abdomen's not

798
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,840
that big, you know, it's not like that. We're not

799
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,760
talking about Aragog from the Lord of the Rings. You know,

800
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:28,079
we're talking about twenty four inches, you know, at least

801
00:52:28,159 --> 00:52:34,480
out all the way maybe more. And I'm in shock,

802
00:52:34,679 --> 00:52:39,519
like I hate spiders, oh my god, you know, and

803
00:52:39,559 --> 00:52:45,519
I'm just like, okay, okay, that is way too big

804
00:52:45,559 --> 00:52:48,400
and that thing needs to die by fire. I don't

805
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:54,639
have fire, but you know, I gingerly open the car

806
00:52:54,679 --> 00:52:59,079
door reach in for the nine millimeter rack a bulletin

807
00:53:00,079 --> 00:53:03,519
like ooh, stay there, stay there. And right as I'm

808
00:53:03,559 --> 00:53:06,159
getting able to be able to draw on this thing,

809
00:53:06,639 --> 00:53:08,599
you know, as it's flat, it kind of jumps up

810
00:53:08,679 --> 00:53:12,079
like this, it skiters through the long grass and I

811
00:53:12,119 --> 00:53:17,679
lose it disappears. Yeah, And I was like, ah, no,

812
00:53:18,639 --> 00:53:20,800
I was gonna put that thing in the freezer and

813
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:24,599
have proof and be a real cool dude and show

814
00:53:24,599 --> 00:53:30,000
it to everybody. But it took off. But you know,

815
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,199
it was the daytime sighting, so I mean I saw it.

816
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:37,519
You know, it was once again like kind of like

817
00:53:37,559 --> 00:53:42,800
a tree bark type color, you know, with light gray

818
00:53:43,119 --> 00:53:45,119
and dark grays and a little bit of black like

819
00:53:45,159 --> 00:53:49,239
individual hairs. It had stripes on the arms that were

820
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:55,280
anywhere from like a dark brown color to almost an

821
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:59,920
orangeish and you know, I like, I did everything I

822
00:54:00,119 --> 00:54:02,519
could to try to figure it out. I'm like, okay,

823
00:54:03,119 --> 00:54:07,880
spider is something I can look at, you know, and

824
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:13,400
try to figure something out. Granted, you know, before this time,

825
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:17,880
you know, me, the wife and her mother, we owned

826
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,239
a pet store, you know, and I was the reptile guy.

827
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,400
I dealt with tarantulas, you know. I've I've gone through

828
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:27,800
the distributors and bought and sold goliath bird eating spiders

829
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:31,679
for some odd reason, people think they're amazing pets. Whatever.

830
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,360
I'm not spending one hundred plus dollars on a stupid spider.

831
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:39,840
But but that's just me. You know, I've seen pretty

832
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,239
big spiders and this looked like none of them. It

833
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,599
was not built like any charantula or anything, you know.

834
00:54:45,679 --> 00:54:49,960
It was strange. So I'm like, okay, where I've got

835
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,039
to be able to do some kind of research and

836
00:54:52,079 --> 00:54:55,719
find out what the heck I just saw. And I

837
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:59,800
don't remember if it was on nat Gio or maybe uh.

838
00:55:00,159 --> 00:55:03,079
I feel like Monster quested an episode on giant spiders,

839
00:55:03,119 --> 00:55:07,280
like I don't remember, but I remember, you know, one

840
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,440
of the segments of it was like they were talking

841
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,599
about what they thought was the biggest spider in North

842
00:55:12,639 --> 00:55:17,559
America and it was the black Water spider. I was like, oh, okay,

843
00:55:17,559 --> 00:55:22,159
this is interesting, Okay, tell me more. And apparently this

844
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,880
thing does get very large, and it you know, hunts

845
00:55:26,199 --> 00:55:29,360
obviously within the water until it gets about hand size,

846
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,239
and once it gets at that point, you know, it

847
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,159
leaves the water system and goes arboreal and goes up

848
00:55:36,199 --> 00:55:41,880
into the tree canopy. And there's not enough researchers or

849
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,079
people that even like want to try to go out

850
00:55:44,119 --> 00:55:47,119
and figure out how big they actually get. You know,

851
00:55:47,159 --> 00:55:50,079
they gave me the caveat the out. We don't know

852
00:55:50,199 --> 00:55:54,239
how big they get after this point, you know, So

853
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:59,199
for me, it was just like they gave me the out. Yeah,

854
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,519
I google the end of what those things look like.

855
00:56:01,559 --> 00:56:07,400
I'm like, it looks almost exactly like that. Maybe maybe,

856
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,199
I mean, I mean, people have been putting some crazy

857
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:14,360
pictures of those things on the old internets here lately,

858
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,159
and I've seen pictures of people going through like Louisiana

859
00:56:17,199 --> 00:56:19,440
with one of those things, you know, like holding like

860
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:23,960
a terrapin turtle and feasting on its neck, and it's like, ah,

861
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:29,199
I can't stand spiders. They're gross, but they get those

862
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:34,119
particular ones get really big. What's that what I saw exactly?

863
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:40,239
I don't know, I know it looks extremely similar and

864
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,400
I never want to see that as long as I live.

865
00:56:43,039 --> 00:56:46,519
So that is the spider story.

866
00:56:47,159 --> 00:56:49,679
Speaker 1: Can't say I'll blame you at all. What I really

867
00:56:49,679 --> 00:56:53,000
don't understand about this whole idea about giants spiders is

868
00:56:53,119 --> 00:56:57,400
normally they're limited size wise by their book lungs. That's

869
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,000
the kind of lungs they have. They don't have respiratory

870
00:57:00,039 --> 00:57:03,000
where he systems like a mammal. Obviously, they have what's

871
00:57:03,039 --> 00:57:08,119
called what are called book lungs, and beyond a certain size,

872
00:57:08,559 --> 00:57:11,440
those book lungs just aren't efficient enough to support that

873
00:57:11,679 --> 00:57:15,039
body mass. So that's why you don't see spiders normally

874
00:57:15,039 --> 00:57:18,519
get beyond a certain size. But with these guys, maybe

875
00:57:18,519 --> 00:57:20,920
they have an adaptation where their lungs are different. I

876
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:25,039
don't know if giant spiders are out there, just like

877
00:57:25,119 --> 00:57:28,360
with dogmen and sasquatch, really makes you wonder what can't

878
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:28,960
be out there?

879
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, shoot, to be fair, didn't they just

880
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,440
discover a new species of spider in the congo like

881
00:57:36,079 --> 00:57:39,199
last month or something that was pretty enormous in some

882
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:44,800
like a cave system or whatever. Like, I mean, the

883
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:48,000
world's pretty crazy, you know, who knows? Who knows?

884
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, that it is. Well, let's get back to dogmen now.

885
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,440
I've got another question for you from NNG, and he

886
00:57:55,559 --> 00:57:58,719
wants to know does he think dogmen are supernatural or

887
00:57:58,760 --> 00:57:59,639
flesh and blood?

888
00:58:00,519 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, so for me, I think it's all the above.

889
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:15,199
I feel like even coming from like the supernatural perspective

890
00:58:15,239 --> 00:58:17,679
of things. You know, when they are in this reality,

891
00:58:19,119 --> 00:58:23,079
they have to abide by the laws of physics. You know,

892
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:27,800
that's just the way it works, you know. And obviously

893
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:32,000
in the way that I look at things, you know,

894
00:58:32,079 --> 00:58:38,440
they have at least half of their DNA for lack

895
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,920
of a better terms, that comes from a supernatural origin

896
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:46,000
and therefore can do some crazy stuff. You know. Like

897
00:58:46,039 --> 00:58:49,320
I said, as far as I'm concerned, where wolves are

898
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:54,239
real in the classical sense, skin walkers are real, pract

899
00:58:54,400 --> 00:59:01,920
basically the same thing. You know, government creates. Chimeras are

900
00:59:02,079 --> 00:59:04,920
probably real. We have plenty of stories of people talking

901
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:08,480
about them coming onto their property and all of a sudden,

902
00:59:09,639 --> 00:59:12,760
you know, the Men in Black show up, or somebody

903
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:14,719
maybe takes one out and the Men in Black show

904
00:59:15,039 --> 00:59:18,639
you killed our asset, YadA YadA, like that seems to

905
00:59:18,719 --> 00:59:22,440
be a thing, you know. We have the Sinuscephali of

906
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:28,480
you know, ancient times that's talked about. We have you know,

907
00:59:29,519 --> 00:59:31,960
we look into Genesis six in the Book of Enoch,

908
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:35,039
we see all flesh is corrupted. See that there is

909
00:59:35,599 --> 00:59:39,519
a historic thing that can account for the creation of

910
00:59:39,599 --> 00:59:48,760
such a thing. Like there is so many different routes

911
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:54,559
of which these things can come from, although I would

912
00:59:54,599 --> 00:59:57,440
say in my worldview that they come from the same

913
00:59:57,599 --> 01:00:02,400
source ultimately in the long run. But do I think

914
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:10,960
that there is a bipedal dire wolf or something like

915
01:00:11,039 --> 01:00:18,639
that that evolved over time. No, I don't see that

916
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:26,800
as the case. I don't think that there's there's absolutely

917
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:34,760
no fossil proof to even show any reason for something

918
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,519
that is caned to, you know, leave the niche that

919
01:00:37,559 --> 01:00:41,639
it's in and be something different like there. I don't

920
01:00:41,639 --> 01:00:46,559
put any stock into that personally. You know, if you

921
01:00:46,599 --> 01:00:49,280
guys out there and YouTube land want to, hey, that's fine.

922
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:51,880
I'm happy to talk to you guys about it and

923
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:55,159
hear what y'all think, because you know, it's all interesting.

924
01:00:55,199 --> 01:01:00,400
It's all interesting, you know. I do think that there

925
01:01:00,519 --> 01:01:05,199
is a little bit of something maybe in the terms

926
01:01:05,239 --> 01:01:09,280
of like the lesser known cryptid that is the devil monkey.

927
01:01:10,639 --> 01:01:15,159
That might be the closest thing that you could find

928
01:01:15,199 --> 01:01:18,679
to a flesh and blood animal with that would be

929
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:24,159
similar but definitely not the same thing. But once again,

930
01:01:24,239 --> 01:01:27,519
that's my own personal opinion. Your mileage may vary.

931
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 1: Well, you're more than entitled to it, just like all

932
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:35,079
of us are. It looks like blood Vipa wants to

933
01:01:35,159 --> 01:01:37,719
know did you have mine speak from the dog man

934
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:40,960
and did you get any warning feelings before you saw it?

935
01:01:41,039 --> 01:01:43,320
He also says, thank you, Vic for everything you do

936
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:46,880
for people like myself. You know You're welcome love to

937
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:47,559
be in a position.

938
01:01:47,719 --> 01:01:51,199
Speaker 2: Hell well, I can definitely say that Vic is the

939
01:01:51,199 --> 01:01:53,800
best of people for sure. So and I love you

940
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:57,719
to death, brother. But as far as mine speak goes,

941
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:01,719
oh yeah, anytime anytimes ours, mine speak goes, No, I've

942
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:08,639
I've not gotten that from anything except for the alien

943
01:02:08,679 --> 01:02:11,000
that I encountered in my driveway. That was the one

944
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:15,280
and only time that I've had mine speak. You know,

945
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:19,239
I can describe what that feels like, but that would

946
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:22,519
be the only thing that I've ever experienced with it.

947
01:02:23,079 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 1: So that answers that I've got another one for you.

948
01:02:28,079 --> 01:02:31,239
This one is from Kirie. Carrie wants to know, did

949
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:32,920
you ever see the wolf dog again?

950
01:02:34,039 --> 01:02:38,079
Speaker 2: Nope. It never showed back up the next following Monday

951
01:02:38,159 --> 01:02:41,119
or anything like that. And you know, I worked there

952
01:02:41,199 --> 01:02:45,440
for four more years after that never came out. We're

953
01:02:45,519 --> 01:02:48,119
there again. This is the last time it was ever seen.

954
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 1: That's a good question. This next one up on deck

955
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:56,840
is from unreal estate agent seven seventy, and he wants

956
01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:59,559
to know, did you ever see any eye color?

957
01:03:01,679 --> 01:03:06,119
Speaker 2: Uh? Some, No, not really, double O seven. I did

958
01:03:06,159 --> 01:03:09,159
see like when it was the dog, it was more

959
01:03:09,199 --> 01:03:13,840
of like a yellowish goldish kind of color, you know,

960
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:17,440
like as as it moved around within the lights of

961
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:21,079
the parking lot. But as I was driving, No, its

962
01:03:21,119 --> 01:03:26,159
eyes were solely focused straight ahead. You know. It looked

963
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:31,320
to me like what I could see of the sclera,

964
01:03:31,519 --> 01:03:35,719
like its eyes were kind of you know, small from

965
01:03:35,719 --> 01:03:39,599
what I could see, you know, probably, And I would

966
01:03:39,599 --> 01:03:42,239
say that it's more because eyes are more forward facing,

967
01:03:43,239 --> 01:03:45,960
you know, and I'm seeing it as side profile. I mean,

968
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:49,280
they were very dark and you know, kind of like

969
01:03:49,719 --> 01:03:54,559
heavily browed, you know, but it was a very dark color.

970
01:03:54,599 --> 01:03:57,519
Could I say that its sclero was black?

971
01:03:58,159 --> 01:03:58,239
Speaker 1: No?

972
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 2: But I do know that I saw no eye reflection

973
01:04:02,159 --> 01:04:08,320
when it was sitting there. So hopefully that answers that.

974
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:11,199
Speaker 1: That does answer it. It's a good job of answering

975
01:04:11,239 --> 01:04:14,039
it too. NG wants to know is there any real

976
01:04:14,119 --> 01:04:18,719
documented evidence of a government agents soldiers hunting dog men.

977
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:21,320
There are claims that have been put out there, but

978
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:24,679
I don't know how real those claims are. All we

979
01:04:24,719 --> 01:04:28,239
can do is guess about that. I've got my opinions.

980
01:04:27,679 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 2: Though, as do I as do I. Yeah, I mean,

981
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:35,840
how would you how would you document that? And how

982
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:37,679
would you even get that released? You know?

983
01:04:39,079 --> 01:04:43,239
Speaker 1: Oh, no doubt, no doubt. This next one is from

984
01:04:45,119 --> 01:04:48,599
unreal estate agent seven seventy. They want to know did

985
01:04:48,639 --> 01:04:54,519
you feel as though it was knowing your thoughts?

986
01:04:55,119 --> 01:05:04,039
Speaker 2: And that's a good question. I would say that maybe,

987
01:05:04,679 --> 01:05:09,960
but I doubt it. I think it was more of

988
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:16,199
a knowing and understanding of a body language type of thing,

989
01:05:17,199 --> 01:05:25,000
and also realizing that I did not allow it to

990
01:05:25,039 --> 01:05:28,039
break the threshold if you would in classical literature, since

991
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:33,119
you know, therefore it decided to eventually give up. That's

992
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:34,840
my thoughts.

993
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 1: But well, all you can do is just look at

994
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:43,440
everything that you experienced and come to the clearest conclusion

995
01:05:43,519 --> 01:05:46,079
you can on that that's the past you can do.

996
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:49,440
I've got one for you from Eminem. They want to

997
01:05:49,519 --> 01:05:53,920
know hiot question for Jim. I'm super curious as if

998
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,599
you noticed anything weird about the fourteen year old kid

999
01:05:56,639 --> 01:05:59,280
that came to get the dog, the wolf dog, or

1000
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:02,320
their interaction while in your presence.

1001
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:06,599
Speaker 2: You know, as far as that goes. Like like I said,

1002
01:06:06,599 --> 01:06:09,159
he was just basically like some kind of super edge lord,

1003
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:17,639
you know, kind of got the kind of a very

1004
01:06:17,679 --> 01:06:24,239
sure of himself and just I don't know, just very

1005
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:28,679
much like a punk trying to prove something is the

1006
01:06:28,719 --> 01:06:34,119
best way that I would describe him, you know. And

1007
01:06:34,519 --> 01:06:37,559
maybe that's not like the fairest assessment. You know, we

1008
01:06:37,559 --> 01:06:41,639
were all dumb and did silly things when we were fourteen.

1009
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:45,440
But you know, like I said, like knowing what I

1010
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:48,519
do know about plenty of the people that live in

1011
01:06:48,559 --> 01:06:51,400
that area being attached to the occult, Like I knew

1012
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:54,000
a lot of them, Like they worked with me, you know,

1013
01:06:54,079 --> 01:07:01,960
and they weren't all bad, you know, but I wouldn't

1014
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:04,280
I wouldn't want to go and hang out with them

1015
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:08,000
in a graveyard on a Saturday night. Let's call me crazy.

1016
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:12,760
So I don't know but I mean he definitely had

1017
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:17,039
a vibe and there was definitely a feeling of just

1018
01:07:17,119 --> 01:07:24,360
being really sketchy, like, yeah.

1019
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you want to hang out with people like

1020
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:24,840
that in the graveyard at night?

1021
01:07:26,199 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 2: They always want to bust out the candles and start

1022
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:33,559
getting the Wiji boards out, And yeah, not about that life,

1023
01:07:33,559 --> 01:07:36,599
bro seeing too much of it. I don't want it.

1024
01:07:37,559 --> 01:07:40,079
Speaker 1: I don't blame you, not my idea of a good

1025
01:07:40,079 --> 01:07:43,920
time either. I've got another one for you from Linda four. Okay,

1026
01:07:44,039 --> 01:07:46,480
she wants to know if you tangled with a dog man,

1027
01:07:46,559 --> 01:07:48,719
please describe what wounds were received.

1028
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 2: I mean I didn't, but I would imagine that you

1029
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:03,360
would have probably quite the lacerations, if not chunks of

1030
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:06,760
flesh missing. So I don't know what would you say, Vick.

1031
01:08:07,599 --> 01:08:11,559
Speaker 1: Oh, I can only imagine the wounds. It feels really

1032
01:08:11,599 --> 01:08:15,119
playing for keeps. I mean, you would just be dead instantly.

1033
01:08:15,519 --> 01:08:18,960
But that's not what these guys do normally. There have

1034
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:21,800
been people who've been killed, of course, but yeah, that's

1035
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:24,159
the exception, not the norm. Thank goodness too.

1036
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:26,359
Speaker 2: For sure.

1037
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:29,359
Speaker 1: For sure, here's a question of the night for you.

1038
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,560
It looks like Caleb Gates wants to know how much

1039
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:33,079
you bench.

1040
01:08:35,359 --> 01:08:37,600
Speaker 2: I don't know. I haven't worked out at the gym

1041
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:40,800
in a very long time. I've been too busy with podcasts,

1042
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:45,960
so I don't know. I'll decent bit. I guess I'm

1043
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:50,039
not the biggest dude in the world, but I don't know.

1044
01:08:50,079 --> 01:08:52,239
Probably at least one hundred and fifty two hundred pounds

1045
01:08:52,279 --> 01:08:55,880
maybe maybe, I don't know. I remember I used to

1046
01:08:55,920 --> 01:09:02,479
be able to lake press thousand pounds, you know, But

1047
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:04,520
then again, you know the way a leg press machine works.

1048
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:07,399
You know, it's different physics involved, and you can It's

1049
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:10,119
way different than squatting, So I don't know how applicable

1050
01:09:10,159 --> 01:09:12,720
it is. You know, I'm not I'm not the biggest

1051
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:16,840
dude in the world. When I was young, I took well,

1052
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:19,960
I guess MMA before MMA was really a thing. You know.

1053
01:09:20,119 --> 01:09:24,439
I'm a I'm a fighter originally, and I never really

1054
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:29,880
trained to bulk more just be big enough for the

1055
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:32,039
weight class that I fought in, which was in one

1056
01:09:32,039 --> 01:09:38,039
p fifty. So maybe the answer something. I'm old now, y'all,

1057
01:09:38,119 --> 01:09:41,319
So I'm not in the same shape I used to

1058
01:09:41,359 --> 01:09:42,840
be in. I can promise you that.

1059
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can relate to that. It looks like bug

1060
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:49,279
wants to know. Do you think dog men in Bigfoot

1061
01:09:49,359 --> 01:09:51,479
or enemies are neutral?

1062
01:09:52,039 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 2: Uh? My personal opinion, I would say depends on the situation.

1063
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:07,279
Depends entirely on the situation and knowing what Bigfoot, slash

1064
01:10:07,319 --> 01:10:11,039
and or dog man are, you know, you'd have to know.

1065
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:14,319
You know, then there's the whom do you serve kind

1066
01:10:14,359 --> 01:10:19,199
of question? And sometimes you know, speaking in you know,

1067
01:10:20,039 --> 01:10:23,439
spiritual terms, you know, not everything that is bad plays

1068
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:27,439
nicely with other things that are bad. So sometimes they

1069
01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:30,479
get along, sometimes they don't get along, you know. That's

1070
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:36,399
that's my opinion. I haven't had enough people that have

1071
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:41,800
told me stories that have encountered them interacting with each

1072
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:45,039
other to know, you know, like my good buddy h.

1073
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:49,439
Martin Groves, he's had some experience with seeing that a

1074
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:53,079
little bit, so I mean, I would say ask him.

1075
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:57,720
But then again, also we have an encyclopedia of knowledge

1076
01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:02,119
and experiences there with mister Kundiff.

1077
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:07,079
Speaker 1: What would you say, Well, it seems like normally they

1078
01:11:07,119 --> 01:11:10,279
get along like they mix like oil and water. But

1079
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:13,399
sometimes apparently they do get along. I mean, there have

1080
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:16,520
been some credible eyewitnesses who have reported seeing them together

1081
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:19,640
side by side, so it's really hard to know that

1082
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:22,479
dynamic works. Like so many other things. All we can

1083
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:27,479
do is just gas exactly, exactly, Yeah, that's all we

1084
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:30,680
can do. Well, we're an hour and ten into this.

1085
01:11:31,399 --> 01:11:34,000
I want to ask you now at this point before

1086
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:37,079
I ask you for your closing comments, Jim, to please

1087
01:11:37,119 --> 01:11:40,159
take this time to promote your podcast, and of course

1088
01:11:40,159 --> 01:11:42,520
I also tell the listeners how they can listen to it.

1089
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, So as of right now, it's just on

1090
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:52,000
the YouTube's and you know, I'm the night's watch. If

1091
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:54,960
you do a search and you can't find me, you

1092
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:56,920
can put in my old handle name, which is a

1093
01:11:57,119 --> 01:11:59,439
fisher of spam and you'd probably find me that way.

1094
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:03,800
But yeah, come hang out with me. Like I said,

1095
01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:07,479
I interview folks too. I'll sit there and talk to

1096
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:10,560
you know, normal people and hear their stories or even

1097
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:13,000
tell it for them if they would rather. You know,

1098
01:12:13,079 --> 01:12:16,079
I have researchers that will come on and talk about

1099
01:12:16,079 --> 01:12:21,880
anything from Bigfoot and dog Man to aliens and what

1100
01:12:22,039 --> 01:12:26,159
have you. And I also you know, go out into

1101
01:12:26,159 --> 01:12:31,239
the field. You know, I try to live by the

1102
01:12:31,279 --> 01:12:35,039
motto of don't just talk about it, but be about it,

1103
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:37,680
so you know, I do a little bit of all

1104
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:40,760
of that stuff, and you'll see that on my channel.

1105
01:12:41,079 --> 01:12:47,319
There's more to come. Season two for my show starts

1106
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:52,520
taping in September and they will begin to air in October.

1107
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:56,439
So there's all that, But until then, there's plenty of

1108
01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:59,279
backlog and member episodes that are only you know, one

1109
01:12:59,319 --> 01:13:01,680
doll and make you high a month if you want

1110
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:04,720
just to really dig and see what I how my

1111
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:07,880
brain kind of processes things. I just go off and

1112
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:13,000
chase squirrels all day long on those episodes. But yeah,

1113
01:13:13,079 --> 01:13:15,640
I mean, that's that's me, and eventually you're gonna start

1114
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:20,119
finding me too on speaker and everything that that kind

1115
01:13:20,119 --> 01:13:26,279
of gets put out too. So yeah, let's see here. Well,

1116
01:13:26,359 --> 01:13:27,920
when I know the name of what that show is

1117
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:30,880
even gonna be called on the History Channel, I'm gonna

1118
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:34,039
be on an episode on the History Channel soon. I

1119
01:13:34,119 --> 01:13:39,600
filmed that or they filmed me for that two months

1120
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:43,920
ago now, So yeah, you're gonna see me a little

1121
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:46,000
bit here and there, especially if you're looking for me.

1122
01:13:46,079 --> 01:13:48,640
You know, I'm a small fish, but I'm trying to

1123
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:51,720
make moves. So you know, I'd love it if you

1124
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:53,399
guys come and hang out with me. I might not

1125
01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:57,720
be your particular flavor of spam, but I'm a cool dude,

1126
01:13:58,319 --> 01:14:02,960
and you know, well, even if we disagree on things,

1127
01:14:03,239 --> 01:14:06,159
you know, I kind of pride myself in being able

1128
01:14:06,199 --> 01:14:10,960
to come to whatever level my guest is on and

1129
01:14:11,079 --> 01:14:14,399
speak to them from that level. So come hang out.

1130
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:15,239
Go hang out.

1131
01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:19,199
Speaker 1: And about a month ago you had a pretty low

1132
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:22,359
character guy on your shit as well, wasn't it about

1133
01:14:22,359 --> 01:14:23,159
four weeks ago?

1134
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 2: I think it was. Yeah, there's this one guy named

1135
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:31,359
Vic that came on and talk to me a little

1136
01:14:31,359 --> 01:14:36,439
bit about some old sasquatch and he seemed a little shady,

1137
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:38,600
but overall it's a pretty cool dude.

1138
01:14:39,399 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, more than a little shady, but it feels a

1139
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:43,399
good time. Thanks for having me on.

1140
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:46,399
Speaker 2: Hey man, I appreciate you. Thank you so much for

1141
01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:48,279
coming on. It means the world to me. I love

1142
01:14:48,319 --> 01:14:49,560
to hang out with my friends.

1143
01:14:50,119 --> 01:14:53,800
Speaker 1: Well I goes two ways. Well, before we do get

1144
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:56,119
at if you're a Jimmy, you have any closing comments

1145
01:14:56,119 --> 01:14:57,119
you want to put out there for.

1146
01:14:57,159 --> 01:15:04,520
Speaker 2: Us, hmm, I guess the closing comments. I'll do it

1147
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:08,079
like I end my show and I'll just say uh

1148
01:15:08,119 --> 01:15:13,079
ee TOOKI tuki peace and I love you. So it's

1149
01:15:13,119 --> 01:15:13,600
all I got.

1150
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 1: Brother, That's about the most quotable closing comments I think

1151
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:18,079
I've ever heard on this show.

1152
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:20,800
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, nailed it.

1153
01:15:21,239 --> 01:15:24,520
Speaker 1: I'd say you did well. Thanks again so much for

1154
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:27,119
coming on here, Jim. I really appreciate it. Thanks so

1155
01:15:27,199 --> 01:15:29,880
much for your time, and please remember if I can

1156
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:31,199
never help you, just let me know.

1157
01:15:32,159 --> 01:15:34,119
Speaker 2: Sure thing, man, that goes two ways. If I can

1158
01:15:34,159 --> 01:15:36,239
help you, let me know, I'll do it. You know,

1159
01:15:36,319 --> 01:15:39,239
and everybody out there in the YouTube land podcast land,

1160
01:15:39,239 --> 01:15:42,359
thanks y'all for hanging out with me. I really enjoyed it.

1161
01:15:43,039 --> 01:15:44,279
And take it.

1162
01:15:44,359 --> 01:15:48,239
Speaker 1: Easy also too, for anyone wondering. Of course, I'm going

1163
01:15:48,279 --> 01:15:50,560
to post a link to Jim's YouTube channel in the

1164
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:53,640
description for tonight's show. That'll make it really easy to

1165
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:56,920
find if you have any trouble finding it. But having

1166
01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:59,159
said that, thanks against so much for your time, Jim,

1167
01:15:59,199 --> 01:16:00,319
and have a great night.

1168
01:16:01,159 --> 01:16:01,680
Speaker 2: Yousu bro.

1169
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Speaker 1: Thanks, We'll see you all right. That's it for another episode,

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another episode in the books. Before I get out of here,

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I just want to put it out there for you

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two things here. Of course, I released another new episode

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for my new Dogmian podcast called Dogman Tales Tales is

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spelled t A l Ees, not t A I l s,

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so that you know Dogman Tails has fictional stories about dogmen,

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they're not true. And also dog Me and Tails is

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not available on YouTube. It's only available via your favorite

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podcast app or wherever however you listen to podcasts, So

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if you haven't checked it out, I highly recommend you

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do so. Also, one last thing, if you've had a

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dogman encounter that you even need help coming to terms with,

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or maybe you want to come on the show and

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share it with the listeners be a guest. Please go

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to Dogmanancounters dot com. If that's you, submit report and

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if you do that then of course I'll contact you

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to schedule a phone consultation. Then we'll take it from there.

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But having said that, thanks again so much for listening.

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Everyone really appreciate you doing that, and have a great night.