WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:05.280 You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. A 2 00:00:05.360 --> 00:00:09.519 study says that it found that the wealthy, particularly the 3 00:00:09.560 --> 00:00:13.279 wealthy that's motivated by greed. You may not think there's 4 00:00:13.279 --> 00:00:16.199 a difference, there is a difference, but the wealthy motivated 5 00:00:16.239 --> 00:00:19.839 by greed are more likely to be unethical, including lying 6 00:00:19.960 --> 00:00:23.839 and cheating things of that nature. Some of the findings 7 00:00:24.000 --> 00:00:27.760 like and I quote, people driving expensive cars were more 8 00:00:27.920 --> 00:00:31.079 likely than other motorists to cut off drivers and pedestrians 9 00:00:31.120 --> 00:00:34.840 at four way stop intersection. Those findings led to a 10 00:00:34.880 --> 00:00:40.719 series of experiments that revealed that people of higher socioeconomic 11 00:00:40.840 --> 00:00:44.679 status were also more likely to cheat to win a prize, 12 00:00:45.240 --> 00:00:48.679 take candy from children, and say that they would pocket 13 00:00:48.719 --> 00:00:51.640 extra change handed to them in error rather than give 14 00:00:51.679 --> 00:00:55.399 it back. And that's always one of those those ethical 15 00:00:55.479 --> 00:00:58.320 challenges that people will bring before you. Right if you 16 00:00:58.520 --> 00:01:02.679 are in a grocery store or some department store or 17 00:01:02.679 --> 00:01:09.560 something and the person checking you out gives you too 18 00:01:09.640 --> 00:01:12.280 much change back, would you keep it or would you 19 00:01:12.280 --> 00:01:15.159 tell them, hey, I think you gave me too much change. 20 00:01:15.319 --> 00:01:18.879 They're saying that those that were wealthy, being motivated by 21 00:01:18.920 --> 00:01:23.359 greed would not have given the money back or correct 22 00:01:23.359 --> 00:01:29.239 the error. More information revealed the conclusion that because of 23 00:01:29.280 --> 00:01:34.879 the abundance of financial resources, rich people live in a 24 00:01:34.959 --> 00:01:40.200 more insular world with less need for social bonds for survival. 25 00:01:40.359 --> 00:01:43.799 So you get to a place in your life where 26 00:01:44.000 --> 00:01:48.120 you know that you need people in your life because 27 00:01:48.159 --> 00:01:52.040 you have need. Now that sounds incredibly selfish one on 28 00:01:52.040 --> 00:01:56.120 one hand, but in another way, you learned that life 29 00:01:56.159 --> 00:02:00.079 is not in a bubble that you live in in 30 00:02:00.120 --> 00:02:04.120 such a way that others are important to you and 31 00:02:04.200 --> 00:02:09.240 a necessity. But when you get to a level, as 32 00:02:09.240 --> 00:02:15.840 socio economic level where you have less need, you kind 33 00:02:15.879 --> 00:02:19.639 of can pay people to do things for you. You 34 00:02:19.719 --> 00:02:21.879 have so much you're relying and leaning so much on 35 00:02:21.919 --> 00:02:24.800 this money that you tend not to interact with people 36 00:02:24.800 --> 00:02:28.240 in the same way because you don't need to well, 37 00:02:28.319 --> 00:02:30.280 I don't even need to be nice. It's almost as 38 00:02:30.319 --> 00:02:32.759 if you're telling yourself you need to be nice and 39 00:02:32.800 --> 00:02:35.120 make friends because you don't have anything else to offer 40 00:02:35.639 --> 00:02:38.360 or what have you. But you get to a place 41 00:02:38.400 --> 00:02:43.159 where you're more self contained and you don't care what 42 00:02:43.199 --> 00:02:45.800 people think, and therefore you kind of do away with 43 00:02:45.919 --> 00:02:50.840 niceties or other types of things they would call social bonds. 44 00:02:51.360 --> 00:02:55.599 That deal with your survival. If you think of it 45 00:02:55.639 --> 00:03:01.000 this way, a child at the beginning of their life, 46 00:03:01.080 --> 00:03:07.520 so precious and so needy, absolutely has to rely on 47 00:03:07.800 --> 00:03:11.599 that which is given to them by his or her parents. Right, 48 00:03:13.719 --> 00:03:18.680 So when small children, a child a male female are 49 00:03:18.680 --> 00:03:22.199 often more compliant with the rules of the household than 50 00:03:22.240 --> 00:03:24.639 a child who is going through that process of turning 51 00:03:24.639 --> 00:03:27.240 to a young adult who feels he or she is 52 00:03:27.280 --> 00:03:32.120 self sufficient, even though you know in reality they certainly 53 00:03:32.199 --> 00:03:37.639 are not self sufficient. But they get to that place, 54 00:03:37.879 --> 00:03:40.879 and that child now sees themselves as a young adult, 55 00:03:41.479 --> 00:03:43.919 sees that they have more, probably more than they think 56 00:03:43.960 --> 00:03:47.919 they do. In reality. They're still growing and learning, but 57 00:03:47.960 --> 00:03:50.240 they see themselves as having more. And this happens a 58 00:03:50.280 --> 00:03:52.360 lot in the teens, and they start to rebel more 59 00:03:53.000 --> 00:03:54.919 so they think, I don't need my parents, I can 60 00:03:54.960 --> 00:04:04.879 do all this myself. Similarly, as you obtain wealth, and 61 00:04:04.919 --> 00:04:07.280 if that is your sole goal, if that's what you're 62 00:04:07.960 --> 00:04:12.840 the only thing, you are completely and utterly sold on 63 00:04:13.560 --> 00:04:17.800 obtaining all of this wealth. Once you start to obtain it, 64 00:04:19.240 --> 00:04:23.079 you'll start pushing away those you know, other people in 65 00:04:23.120 --> 00:04:25.240 your life where you won't see a need for them. 66 00:04:26.680 --> 00:04:30.800 So the study is pointing out that people with wealth 67 00:04:30.879 --> 00:04:35.439 start to get rude, more rude, and ignore others and 68 00:04:35.519 --> 00:04:39.399 don't interact the same way because they feel they don't 69 00:04:39.439 --> 00:04:43.600 need to. When you think you could buy what you need, 70 00:04:45.639 --> 00:04:49.639 you don't focus on the skills that it takes to 71 00:04:49.720 --> 00:04:54.720 obtain that in everyday life in a real, deep and 72 00:04:54.759 --> 00:05:01.839 true way. The strange thing about this story is that 73 00:05:01.879 --> 00:05:09.600 this study itself is nothing new. Think about this for 74 00:05:09.639 --> 00:05:16.319 a moment. As a matter of fact, Scripture is filled 75 00:05:17.199 --> 00:05:22.199 with examples of people trading ethics, their own character for 76 00:05:22.319 --> 00:05:30.160 money and power. This has been around forever. Scripture makes 77 00:05:30.160 --> 00:05:34.680 it clear if your goal is just to make money 78 00:05:34.759 --> 00:05:39.800 and your motivation is greed, you should not be trusted, 79 00:05:41.360 --> 00:05:44.560 nor will you ever ever know the things of God. 80 00:05:46.680 --> 00:05:50.199 It's not that in Scripture I pick on people that 81 00:05:50.240 --> 00:05:53.399 are rich. That's not the case. If you know the 82 00:05:53.480 --> 00:05:58.079 stories about it's easier to get a camel in an 83 00:05:58.120 --> 00:06:00.120 eye through an eye of a needle than it is 84 00:06:00.120 --> 00:06:01.839 to get a rich man into heaven. Is that to 85 00:06:02.000 --> 00:06:06.040 mock the rich? Absolutely not. Is to say that there 86 00:06:06.079 --> 00:06:08.920 is something else going on in that process of gaining 87 00:06:08.959 --> 00:06:12.759 money that if it is based solely and propelled by greed. 88 00:06:14.879 --> 00:06:17.279 Then you will get lost in that pattern. You'll get 89 00:06:17.319 --> 00:06:19.639 lost only in those things and not into the things 90 00:06:20.120 --> 00:06:23.800 that God has created that are of importance, the character building, 91 00:06:23.839 --> 00:06:27.000 the ethics, the morals that go with doing the right thing, 92 00:06:27.240 --> 00:06:31.399 not because there is something to be gained on the 93 00:06:31.480 --> 00:06:35.439 right thing, like monetary gain, but doing the right thing 94 00:06:35.480 --> 00:06:42.120 because the right thing is right to do. Period. Scripture 95 00:06:42.160 --> 00:06:44.680 takes the time to point these things out, not to 96 00:06:44.879 --> 00:06:50.040 pummel those that have wealth, but to show you that 97 00:06:50.079 --> 00:06:53.279 the path to wealth often can be one that is 98 00:06:53.439 --> 00:06:59.120 barbed with ethical concerns as to how you will treat 99 00:06:59.199 --> 00:07:03.560 others and how you even think about yourself, what you're 100 00:07:03.600 --> 00:07:07.600 willing to do, how low you'd be willing to stoop 101 00:07:08.120 --> 00:07:12.959 to make money, you'd be willing to lie, or to cheat, 102 00:07:13.040 --> 00:07:18.560 or to steal in order to have those funds. In 103 00:07:18.600 --> 00:07:21.600 your mind, it becomes worth it if that is the 104 00:07:21.600 --> 00:07:27.319 path you're in. Trouble one Timothy six 't nine points out, 105 00:07:27.319 --> 00:07:31.199 but those who desire to be rich fall into temptation, 106 00:07:32.759 --> 00:07:37.800 into a snare, into many senseless and harmful desires that 107 00:07:37.839 --> 00:07:44.560 plunge people into ruin and destruction. But it sets it 108 00:07:44.560 --> 00:07:47.639 out at the beginning to tell you those who desire 109 00:07:47.720 --> 00:07:51.560 to be rich. If that's your only focus, if that's 110 00:07:51.600 --> 00:07:53.959 what you have in your mind as the ultimate goal, 111 00:07:55.720 --> 00:07:59.439 then you fall into temptation because everything around you is saying, hey, 112 00:07:59.600 --> 00:08:02.399 pick me, I'm the one that will get you to 113 00:08:02.480 --> 00:08:04.399 that place. I'm the one that will get you that 114 00:08:04.560 --> 00:08:09.839 money that you want. First, Timothy goes on to admonish 115 00:08:09.839 --> 00:08:16.079 you that it's not that money itself corrupts, but it's 116 00:08:16.120 --> 00:08:20.199 the love of money that corrupts. Often this verse is 117 00:08:20.240 --> 00:08:25.040 misquoted over and over Here misquoted one Timothy six' ten 118 00:08:25.439 --> 00:08:30.480 for the love of money is the root of all 119 00:08:30.600 --> 00:08:35.879 kinds of. Evils it is through this craving that some 120 00:08:36.000 --> 00:08:38.799 have wandered away from the faith and have pierced themselves 121 00:08:39.039 --> 00:08:43.039 with many. Pangs so what does that. Mean that means 122 00:08:43.039 --> 00:08:47.679 that if your focus is only about making that, money 123 00:08:47.759 --> 00:08:51.840 if all you want is to accumulate that, wealth there 124 00:08:51.879 --> 00:08:56.120 will be problems because that kind of love for money 125 00:08:58.159 --> 00:09:01.320 is just that is just the beginning, point the starting 126 00:09:01.399 --> 00:09:05.720 point for evil to creep into your life through, temptation 127 00:09:06.840 --> 00:09:12.759 through having that coveting, mind being envious of those that around, 128 00:09:12.840 --> 00:09:15.720 you and you lose sight of the things Of, god 129 00:09:17.519 --> 00:09:21.200 and it is through this. Craving it says in One 130 00:09:21.360 --> 00:09:26.000 timothy six' ten that some. Not all keep, in mind 131 00:09:26.000 --> 00:09:29.159 it's not, saying all and it's not saying money is. 132 00:09:29.159 --> 00:09:31.799 The root it's saying the love. Of money and some 133 00:09:32.120 --> 00:09:36.519 have wandered away from the faith because these things will 134 00:09:36.559 --> 00:09:39.519 capture your mind and capture your eyes and capture your 135 00:09:39.559 --> 00:09:42.679 heart and take them away from the Things. OF god 136 00:09:46.080 --> 00:09:51.559 a study says that, wealthy people if you're motivated, by 137 00:09:51.639 --> 00:09:55.240 greed you are more likely and more prone to. Being 138 00:09:55.320 --> 00:10:00.159 unethical it's an interesting right off, the bat it's interesting 139 00:10:00.240 --> 00:10:02.799 to think of it things. That, way well you know 140 00:10:02.879 --> 00:10:05.200 that somebody just based on how much money, they have 141 00:10:05.440 --> 00:10:08.840 might treat. Others differently and a lot of this was 142 00:10:08.879 --> 00:10:14.399 done through observation, and experimentation some of which was just 143 00:10:14.480 --> 00:10:17.159 looking at certain areas so, you know, and, saying oh 144 00:10:17.159 --> 00:10:22.080 this is how people react to, certain things sort of if, 145 00:10:22.120 --> 00:10:25.039 you will just by sitting and, want observing but also 146 00:10:25.039 --> 00:10:28.320 there was other experimentation that went along. With it but 147 00:10:28.440 --> 00:10:35.159 their conclusions were interesting about people with an abundance of 148 00:10:35.200 --> 00:10:38.200 financial resources tend to be kind of separate. From others 149 00:10:38.360 --> 00:10:41.720 they don't feel the need to have those social bonds 150 00:10:41.720 --> 00:10:43.840 that you may have with somebody if you don't have 151 00:10:43.919 --> 00:10:50.240 that kind, of money because those bonds really are about building, 152 00:10:50.919 --> 00:10:54.480 a community and because you believe there's a need for 153 00:10:54.559 --> 00:10:57.399 community and a need for. One, another well if you're 154 00:10:57.399 --> 00:11:00.639 motivated just by greed and you're building that health up 155 00:11:00.679 --> 00:11:02.519 and you feel that you have such an abundance, of 156 00:11:02.559 --> 00:11:05.440 it what is anybody else going to? Bring you that, 157 00:11:06.039 --> 00:11:07.480 old joke what do you get somebody that? 158 00:11:07.679 --> 00:11:07.919 Has? 159 00:11:08.039 --> 00:11:13.080 Everything nothing so in, this sense it's interesting to see. Those, 160 00:11:13.120 --> 00:11:18.080 things however this is. Nothing new thousands of, years Ago 161 00:11:18.120 --> 00:11:21.000 as scripture was, Being written god was reminding you of 162 00:11:21.039 --> 00:11:25.960 these Things one timothy. Sixty nine but those who desire 163 00:11:26.000 --> 00:11:29.639 to be rich fall, into temptation into, a snare into 164 00:11:29.639 --> 00:11:34.159 many senseless and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin. 165 00:11:34.320 --> 00:11:38.559 And destruction is supposed to turn you away from those 166 00:11:38.600 --> 00:11:44.759 things you've heard many. Times about it's money is the 167 00:11:44.799 --> 00:11:46.840 root of all kinds. Of evil we've told you that 168 00:11:46.919 --> 00:11:50.000 over and over that that's Not what. Scripture says it 169 00:11:50.000 --> 00:11:52.840 says the love of money is the root of all kinds. 170 00:11:52.879 --> 00:11:57.399 Of evil and if that is you, you're craving then 171 00:11:58.240 --> 00:12:02.600 you will get lost. In it being wealthy doesn't automatically 172 00:12:02.679 --> 00:12:09.840 mean that you are greedy and. Therefore unethical many wealthy 173 00:12:09.879 --> 00:12:12.639 people use their money, for good and they give to 174 00:12:12.720 --> 00:12:17.840 others and don't just hoard it. For themselves this is a. 175 00:12:17.840 --> 00:12:22.720 Good thing proverbs eleven. Twenty four one, gives freely yet 176 00:12:22.759 --> 00:12:26.919 grows all. The richer another withholds what he should give 177 00:12:27.679 --> 00:12:33.919 and only. Suffers want there's. A difference there's. A difference 178 00:12:34.679 --> 00:12:38.799 the one who was filled with greed serves only money 179 00:12:38.879 --> 00:12:47.240 and consequently cannot Also. Serve, God jay welcome To The Jesus. 180 00:12:47.320 --> 00:12:51.039 Christ Show, hi jesus it's really great to talk. To you. 181 00:12:51.200 --> 00:12:53.960 My pleasure you get me to think, a lot and 182 00:12:54.159 --> 00:12:56.720 especially this, Summer anyway there's so many QUESTIONS that i 183 00:12:56.720 --> 00:12:58.799 want to, ask You but i'll get to the ONE 184 00:12:58.840 --> 00:13:04.320 that i called in about my FIANCE. And i, of 185 00:13:04.320 --> 00:13:08.039 course since she's, my fiancee, we're engaged and we come 186 00:13:08.120 --> 00:13:13.159 From different. CHRISTIAN traditions i am more of a come 187 00:13:13.159 --> 00:13:19.519 from a conservative, theological background moving all my journey more 188 00:13:19.559 --> 00:13:23.440 towards moderation, and BALANCE because i think that's what you're 189 00:13:23.440 --> 00:13:28.799 the perfect, embodiment of and hers is the opposite perspective 190 00:13:28.840 --> 00:13:32.240 of both of us moving in the direction. TOWARDS you 191 00:13:32.440 --> 00:13:38.039 i think we we we've talked before envisioning kind of 192 00:13:38.039 --> 00:13:41.279 our relationship with you as a as being little chicks 193 00:13:41.320 --> 00:13:44.480 touched under your wing from either side and being brought 194 00:13:44.519 --> 00:13:51.360 closer together to each other. Through you, My, QUESTION yeah 195 00:13:51.519 --> 00:13:53.720 i think it comes from a picture in scripture And 196 00:13:53.759 --> 00:13:55.759 the gospel that can't remember, exactly where though. 197 00:13:55.799 --> 00:13:58.799 There's there's often times actually where that that kind of 198 00:13:58.799 --> 00:14:03.159 illustration of A bird god being, you know like a 199 00:14:03.240 --> 00:14:06.639 mama bird and taking care of the chicks is is 200 00:14:06.639 --> 00:14:09.879 a concept that has seen. In, Scripture, indeed. 201 00:14:10.200 --> 00:14:15.480 Yeah and hers with more of a liberal uh. Theology framework, 202 00:14:15.519 --> 00:14:18.000 you know she always likes to FIND and i appreciate, 203 00:14:18.080 --> 00:14:23.279 that too, you know Imageries of. God transcending, You know 204 00:14:23.799 --> 00:14:25.519 i'm probably not saying this the, right way is, MY. 205 00:14:26.200 --> 00:14:27.840 Well i understand you Know what. 206 00:14:27.879 --> 00:14:32.240 I'm, saying, indeed anyway, you know the quot the question 207 00:14:32.320 --> 00:14:35.799 about sex before marriage has, come up and, of course 208 00:14:35.840 --> 00:14:40.679 from my more, conservative background, You Know i've i've leaned 209 00:14:40.679 --> 00:14:43.120 and told her my strong convictions you know THAT that 210 00:14:43.200 --> 00:14:46.440 i think we need, to wait and she feels that 211 00:14:46.759 --> 00:14:49.919 and she Knows where i'm coming from and a lot of, 212 00:14:49.919 --> 00:14:52.559 her tradition it seems like there are a lot of 213 00:14:52.559 --> 00:14:57.519 people uh and, she uh and she has has felt 214 00:14:57.519 --> 00:15:00.799 this and feels a lot. Of It, of hey, you 215 00:15:00.840 --> 00:15:04.960 know if you're if, you're monogamous it's. It's okay you 216 00:15:05.279 --> 00:15:07.480 don't have to wait. For marriage it's just as long 217 00:15:07.480 --> 00:15:10.879 as you're not, being promiscuous. You know and and if 218 00:15:10.879 --> 00:15:13.039 somebody turns out not to be the, right partner, you 219 00:15:13.039 --> 00:15:16.080 know if, that's okay you'll eventually. Move on and and, 220 00:15:16.200 --> 00:15:20.320 for me just that doesn't it doesn't. Feel right AND, 221 00:15:20.320 --> 00:15:22.399 and i, you know before we met and long over, 222 00:15:22.440 --> 00:15:25.320 My life i've also searched Scriptures and i've looked for 223 00:15:25.440 --> 00:15:29.440 like very specific wording, that says, you know doubt shalt 224 00:15:29.480 --> 00:15:31.840 not have sex before marriage or something. Like that and 225 00:15:31.879 --> 00:15:33.399 of course, to mind there's nothing. 226 00:15:33.519 --> 00:15:36.039 That, Clear, WELL jay i will, tell you if you're 227 00:15:36.039 --> 00:15:38.799 looking for for a scripture to be, that clear there's 228 00:15:38.919 --> 00:15:42.559 not one passage that says don't chew. Glass, either yeah 229 00:15:42.600 --> 00:15:48.039 so there IS the i think sometimes it's. Human nature 230 00:15:48.399 --> 00:15:48.720 there's AN. 231 00:15:48.720 --> 00:15:48.919 OLD. 232 00:15:49.279 --> 00:15:54.679 W c fields quote where he's Reading the bible and 233 00:15:54.759 --> 00:15:58.519 someone comes up to him, and says wait because they're 234 00:15:58.759 --> 00:16:01.200 blown away that he's Got the bible in. His hands THIS. 235 00:16:01.279 --> 00:16:01.519 IS. W. 236 00:16:01.639 --> 00:16:04.440 C fields he's a he's, a drunkard he, hates kids he. 237 00:16:04.480 --> 00:16:08.440 Smokes cigars this is not a, godly, Man right and 238 00:16:08.480 --> 00:16:13.279 he's reading scripture and, someone says what are? You doing and, 239 00:16:13.320 --> 00:16:17.240 he said looking, for loopholes looking. For LOOPHOLES and i 240 00:16:17.279 --> 00:16:21.399 think sometimes that seems to Be the christian mentality is 241 00:16:21.720 --> 00:16:24.200 it's WHAT can i get? Away with and that's kind 242 00:16:24.240 --> 00:16:27.200 of the wrong way to go to. Approach scripture but 243 00:16:27.399 --> 00:16:31.399 THE scripture i want to point you to Is one corinthians. 244 00:16:31.440 --> 00:16:34.799 Seven too so You've, got paul who's an interesting, fellow 245 00:16:34.960 --> 00:16:39.399 himself who wrestles with his own life and things going 246 00:16:39.440 --> 00:16:41.039 on in his life and the way he, sees them 247 00:16:41.080 --> 00:16:43.240 and isn't a big fan, of marriage but isn't a 248 00:16:43.279 --> 00:16:47.480 big fan of sex. Or relationships he's just he's just. 249 00:16:47.600 --> 00:16:50.559 Built differently so he goes on to talk, about how, 250 00:16:52.679 --> 00:16:55.440 you know how he wishes everybody was. Like him he 251 00:16:55.559 --> 00:16:57.320 just doesn't think. About it it's not important to him. 252 00:16:57.360 --> 00:17:00.480 That way but this particular verse is ONE that i 253 00:17:00.519 --> 00:17:03.799 want to point OUT because i think that it somewhat 254 00:17:03.919 --> 00:17:07.880 gives you by way of deduction and understanding it in 255 00:17:07.960 --> 00:17:10.160 context gives you something that maybe you can lean on 256 00:17:10.200 --> 00:17:12.240 a little. Bit More first corinthians seven to, two says 257 00:17:12.640 --> 00:17:16.200 but because of the temptation of, sexual immorality each man 258 00:17:16.279 --> 00:17:18.880 should have his, own wife and each woman should have her. 259 00:17:18.920 --> 00:17:23.160 Own husband so by, you know parsing and removing the 260 00:17:23.240 --> 00:17:26.559 different pieces of, that sentence you can see that sexual 261 00:17:26.599 --> 00:17:32.160 immorality or temptation comes outside, of marriage which implies not 262 00:17:32.319 --> 00:17:36.000 to mention that the term fornication is really having sex 263 00:17:36.720 --> 00:17:40.720 with someone who's not your wife, or husband so there is, 264 00:17:40.880 --> 00:17:46.240 no well if they're, you, know together. They're monogamous here's, 265 00:17:46.240 --> 00:17:48.559 another example and these are things that you can deduce 266 00:17:48.640 --> 00:17:51.400 without having a verse that says you should not. Do 267 00:17:51.599 --> 00:17:55.359 this commandments are very specific things that deal with the 268 00:17:55.400 --> 00:18:03.279 relationship between man and humanityity and, humanity really or the 269 00:18:03.400 --> 00:18:08.400 relationship between Humanity. And god but everything else is kind 270 00:18:08.440 --> 00:18:11.599 of talked about and. Pointed To the other example would 271 00:18:11.640 --> 00:18:16.559 be my very. Own parents so here you have my 272 00:18:16.680 --> 00:18:21.319 Foster father joseph and My mother, mary betrothed which is 273 00:18:21.440 --> 00:18:24.960 more intense than even people always refer to it as, 274 00:18:24.960 --> 00:18:28.680 an engagement but really it's more intense, than that it 275 00:18:28.920 --> 00:18:31.119 is truly a bond that you would have to divorce 276 00:18:31.240 --> 00:18:33.599 from where you could just get the ring back or 277 00:18:33.680 --> 00:18:35.599 not and, Say, OKAY syana i we'll see. 278 00:18:35.599 --> 00:18:38.799 You. Later yeah in that culture was basically, like, marriage right. 279 00:18:39.200 --> 00:18:41.400 It was it was very much, like marriage but it was. 280 00:18:41.559 --> 00:18:45.359 Not marriage so here they are not married yet yet 281 00:18:45.400 --> 00:18:47.240 he would have had to do a divorce her and 282 00:18:47.359 --> 00:18:50.119 it was shameful for her to have a child during. 283 00:18:50.160 --> 00:18:54.920 That period why because they weren't. Married. Yet yeah so 284 00:18:55.880 --> 00:18:59.680 there's plenty of examples where you can see it without 285 00:18:59.759 --> 00:19:02.119 having to have that one verse that says it in 286 00:19:02.200 --> 00:19:06.200 a specific way that you like or your. Fiance likes 287 00:19:06.680 --> 00:19:09.839 in a modern daytingue or any of. Those things it definitely. Says, 288 00:19:09.880 --> 00:19:13.519 it now having said all, THOSE things i want you 289 00:19:13.680 --> 00:19:17.519 to understand a realistic view of how these. Things work 290 00:19:18.640 --> 00:19:21.640 it's not, just hey don't do THIS because i. Say 291 00:19:21.720 --> 00:19:29.480 so there are people that are monogamous in an engagement 292 00:19:30.319 --> 00:19:36.079 period and that and then get unengaged and go their, 293 00:19:36.119 --> 00:19:37.920 different directions and if they were having sex during. That 294 00:19:38.039 --> 00:19:41.000 period the whole purpose of this is Not so god 295 00:19:41.160 --> 00:19:44.400 can control, your life and because sex is really fun and. 296 00:19:44.480 --> 00:19:46.599 Feels good he doesn't want you to. Do it that's. 297 00:19:46.680 --> 00:19:49.279 Not why it's Not what. God's about he's not the 298 00:19:49.720 --> 00:19:52.759 cosmic kill joy, that's going, oh look they're. Enjoying, That 299 00:19:52.960 --> 00:19:54.279 well i'm going to tell him not to. Do it 300 00:19:55.000 --> 00:19:59.240 it's it's because when you give of yourself, that way 301 00:20:00.359 --> 00:20:03.359 you give a piece of yourself to, that person and 302 00:20:03.519 --> 00:20:05.440 that's a little piece of you that you will not 303 00:20:05.640 --> 00:20:08.279 be giving to the person you're supposed to spend the 304 00:20:08.359 --> 00:20:11.640 rest of your life with when you. Marry them and 305 00:20:12.039 --> 00:20:15.440 that's really. The reason there's also other things that you 306 00:20:15.640 --> 00:20:19.319 take away from, the relationship those, first times those. First, 307 00:20:19.400 --> 00:20:23.839 EXPERIENCES now i know that's not always going to be, 308 00:20:23.920 --> 00:20:26.880 the CASE and i assure you you are not going 309 00:20:26.960 --> 00:20:29.119 to explode or go Straight to hell if you have 310 00:20:29.279 --> 00:20:32.319 sex with. Your fiance it's not going. To happen nor 311 00:20:32.440 --> 00:20:34.480 does it mean that you're going To hate god or 312 00:20:34.599 --> 00:20:38.480 not have a Relationship. With god but. It does it 313 00:20:38.599 --> 00:20:46.480 does kind of change the Relationship with god because you're 314 00:20:46.599 --> 00:20:53.559 seeking pleasure Outside of. God's WILL and i know it's 315 00:20:53.599 --> 00:20:57.039 one of those. Weird topics we joke about not Having 316 00:20:57.119 --> 00:21:03.000 producer neil host the show because his examples would. Be 317 00:21:03.119 --> 00:21:06.400 horrible in these contexts and part, of THAT and i 318 00:21:06.519 --> 00:21:08.079 use him as an example and he gives me the, 319 00:21:08.920 --> 00:21:11.839 you know the thumbs up to embarrass him on the 320 00:21:11.880 --> 00:21:16.319 program because he made a lot of mistakes in that 321 00:21:16.640 --> 00:21:22.160 very realm as. He both and it's a very but 322 00:21:22.319 --> 00:21:25.519 even with relationships outside of marriage and sex outside, of 323 00:21:25.599 --> 00:21:31.119 marriage it's a very potent and. Powerful thing and there 324 00:21:31.160 --> 00:21:33.759 are oftentimes you can go back through, Your past jay, and, 325 00:21:33.880 --> 00:21:36.240 go gosh there are People that i've had sex With 326 00:21:36.599 --> 00:21:39.119 that i'd like to have not have, had that or 327 00:21:39.160 --> 00:21:42.880 it wasn't a wonderful experience for, either party or were, 328 00:21:42.920 --> 00:21:46.240 too young or alcohol, was involved or when you go 329 00:21:46.519 --> 00:21:49.319 back through all, these things if you want to remove 330 00:21:49.359 --> 00:21:51.400 them from, your life then it wasn't a. Good idea 331 00:21:52.599 --> 00:21:56.559 and it's just more baggage that you bring into. The 332 00:21:56.599 --> 00:22:00.440 relationship and relationships can be difficult, as is and you 333 00:22:00.559 --> 00:22:04.519 bring those in and even now even more so with 334 00:22:04.640 --> 00:22:07.480 social Media and facebook and everything that people can look 335 00:22:07.519 --> 00:22:10.200 you up and find you from years years and, years 336 00:22:10.240 --> 00:22:14.680 ago and all these things just accumulate like barnacles on. 337 00:22:14.839 --> 00:22:19.119 Your life and in, this sense it's, Almost, like okay 338 00:22:19.319 --> 00:22:22.240 maybe you were promiscuous when you, were younger or prior 339 00:22:22.319 --> 00:22:26.599 to your faith or whatever. It was and this is 340 00:22:26.680 --> 00:22:29.279 a time where you're looking at this person, AND saying 341 00:22:29.400 --> 00:22:31.000 i want to, marry THEM and i want them to. 342 00:22:31.039 --> 00:22:34.279 Be different it's not about while THE minute i, enter 343 00:22:35.200 --> 00:22:38.279 her the world's going to Explode and god's gonna hate 344 00:22:38.319 --> 00:22:41.400 me and we're going to augur. Into hell don't think 345 00:22:41.440 --> 00:22:44.079 of it. That way think of it as not a, 346 00:22:44.160 --> 00:22:46.920 bad thing because sex is. Not bad it's beautiful and 347 00:22:47.079 --> 00:22:51.279 wonderful and Created by god and. It's pleasurable think of 348 00:22:51.359 --> 00:22:55.480 it more as this person is special to ME and 349 00:22:55.559 --> 00:22:58.759 i want to, separate her and she's going to want to, 350 00:22:58.799 --> 00:23:01.839 separate you hopefully from all the other things that you. 351 00:23:01.960 --> 00:23:06.279 Did prior and so during, this time out of respect for, 352 00:23:06.400 --> 00:23:10.319 one another you're going to put. It off not because, 353 00:23:10.319 --> 00:23:14.400 it's bad because it's, not bad but because getting to 354 00:23:14.519 --> 00:23:17.000 know each other is better. For now getting to connect 355 00:23:17.079 --> 00:23:19.960 with each other is better for now to have those 356 00:23:20.079 --> 00:23:23.720 moments and. Those connectives sex is not evil and yucky 357 00:23:23.880 --> 00:23:26.839 and it's the devil wants to. Pervert it the devil 358 00:23:26.920 --> 00:23:29.000 wants to make. It ugly the devil wants to make it. 359 00:23:29.039 --> 00:23:30.960 A taboo the devil wants to make it all, those 360 00:23:31.039 --> 00:23:36.640 things because it is the most important spiritual and bonding 361 00:23:37.680 --> 00:23:40.240 experience you can have. On earth it's the closest Thing 362 00:23:40.319 --> 00:23:43.000 to heaven you will ever have, on earth is that 363 00:23:43.680 --> 00:23:47.079 human connection and being one. With someone and the devil 364 00:23:47.119 --> 00:23:50.279 wants to make, It ugly And all god is saying 365 00:23:51.079 --> 00:23:56.240 is cherish it and hold it in, high esteem put 366 00:23:56.279 --> 00:24:01.400 it somewhere where it's appropriate and where it blossoms into something, 367 00:24:01.519 --> 00:24:05.079 even deeper rather than making it a thrill ride or 368 00:24:05.079 --> 00:24:10.039 at amusement park or a really. Good time and. That's 369 00:24:10.079 --> 00:24:13.799 all so it's not about shame or any of. THOSE 370 00:24:13.880 --> 00:24:16.440 things i hate when the enemy does that and puts 371 00:24:16.480 --> 00:24:19.759 all that ugliness. On it sex is beautiful, and wonderful 372 00:24:20.839 --> 00:24:23.920 but if you're going to marry this person and, she's 373 00:24:23.960 --> 00:24:27.400 special and she thinks, you're special why not hold it 374 00:24:27.480 --> 00:24:30.079 above that one thing that only the two of you. 375 00:24:30.200 --> 00:24:32.720 Will do everything else you'll do with, someone, else eating 376 00:24:33.079 --> 00:24:35.440 you may even sleep next to. Somebody sometime you do 377 00:24:35.640 --> 00:24:38.720 all these, different things but that's a one thing only 378 00:24:38.799 --> 00:24:40.160 the two of you are going. To do why not 379 00:24:40.279 --> 00:24:43.319 hold it special and make a point to each other 380 00:24:43.720 --> 00:24:47.599 that during this, betrothal period during, this engagement you're going 381 00:24:47.680 --> 00:24:52.039 to hold it high in hopes of making it separate 382 00:24:52.119 --> 00:25:00.599 from any other experience that you've. Ever had. Relationships wonderful 383 00:25:01.799 --> 00:25:03.440 i've said this many times on. The show it is 384 00:25:03.519 --> 00:25:08.599 that the center of scripture everything is really. About relationships 385 00:25:09.240 --> 00:25:12.200 AND although i joke With producer NEIL and i poke 386 00:25:12.240 --> 00:25:17.440 at him on, these things it, would be, oh goodness 387 00:25:17.599 --> 00:25:19.440 it would be one heck of a show if we 388 00:25:19.519 --> 00:25:23.039 went over all the mistakes he made and continues to 389 00:25:23.119 --> 00:25:26.640 make in his. Own life but they do enter the 390 00:25:26.680 --> 00:25:30.200 show as an important part of what we. Do here, 391 00:25:30.279 --> 00:25:34.720 on occasion the things is divorce or mistakes he's made 392 00:25:35.119 --> 00:25:39.119 or things like that as he's grown up and trying 393 00:25:39.200 --> 00:25:43.599 to Wrestle with. God's word this is a place not. 394 00:25:43.759 --> 00:25:46.880 To judge this is a place that we've made hopefully 395 00:25:46.960 --> 00:25:49.720 safe for you to get honest response to things in 396 00:25:49.759 --> 00:25:53.160 your life in a way that's. Hopefully helpful it's not 397 00:25:53.240 --> 00:25:56.359 about who's better than, someone else or who's stronger Or 398 00:25:56.440 --> 00:25:58.759 more christian than. Someone else it's about trying to find 399 00:25:58.839 --> 00:26:02.839 your way, for you matching up and Corresponding with. God's, 400 00:26:02.880 --> 00:26:11.200 Word brenda welcome To The Jesus. 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