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<v Speaker 1>Oh Medal, that's are hello and welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Cult of Conspiracy and I am the

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<v Speaker 1>Cage to Night and today we have on a newer homie.

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<v Speaker 1>We met him a couple of months ago, a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks excuse me ago at a roundtable event from England.

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<v Speaker 1>Tommy from the Let's Get Freaky podcast, Brother, how are

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<v Speaker 1>you today?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh very well, thank you so much for having me. Guys,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm excited to be here. Same cryptis Women's Society. They're live.

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<v Speaker 2>We met right, Oh yeah, and I came in late

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<v Speaker 2>and you guys are going in hard and it was like, whoa,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, how did you meet up with them?

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<v Speaker 2>I interviewed the girls from Crypto Women's Society a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of months before that, and yeah, they're great. It was awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>And they said about jumping on the live and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, yes, absolutely, but I was working, so that's

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<v Speaker 2>why I was late. But I just got on for

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<v Speaker 2>the end.

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<v Speaker 3>We just absolutely got the time wrong, that's why we

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<v Speaker 3>were and we were so late, and we were like

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<v Speaker 3>taking our sweet time getting nine. We're like we're early.

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<v Speaker 3>Then we jump in. We're like, oh, we're like an

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<v Speaker 3>hour and a half fleet. We did not realize that.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, I'm in the future, but they're well in

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<v Speaker 2>the future, they're like a day ahead of us. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not quite sure. I think it's like eleven hours

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<v Speaker 2>in front.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So I don't even know how I met them

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<v Speaker 3>by a weird happen chance. I met them on my

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<v Speaker 3>Instagram and then we became friends and then we chatted

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't know, and then I kept telling the

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<v Speaker 3>boys that they needed to have her have them on

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, man, this would be great, like

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<v Speaker 3>you guys need a club. And then I ended up

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<v Speaker 3>going on their show for one of their I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know what it's called. I forget. They had like a

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<v Speaker 3>special series where they like interview women and they do

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<v Speaker 3>different stuff on their actual page and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And what did you talk about on their show?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I was currently holding children and it was a

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<v Speaker 3>whole mess and super I had like three kids on

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<v Speaker 3>me and I'm just like, I'm sorry, wow, oh no,

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<v Speaker 3>it was. It was a whole thing because it had

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<v Speaker 3>to be at like six o'clock in my time, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, this is the worst time possible. But we

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<v Speaker 3>had already like rescheduled a few times. We talked about

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<v Speaker 3>kind of just my background, a little bit about conspiracy,

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<v Speaker 3>just more or less of like the birth world because

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<v Speaker 3>that's where I was and stuff at the time. And

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<v Speaker 3>we talked a little bit about conspiracies and we didn't

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<v Speaker 3>talk very long. It was like a fifteen to twenty

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<v Speaker 3>minute segment or something. They were dropping like little clips

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<v Speaker 3>of people got you. We talked before and afterwards, and

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<v Speaker 3>I was like they. I was like, you have to

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<v Speaker 3>reach out to them. You need to get on their show.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys need to get together.

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<v Speaker 1>You were pushing us for a couple of months months. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and we finally reached out and the girls are phenomenal

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<v Speaker 1>and they're actually affiliates of our show now, so I

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<v Speaker 1>mean we love them to death. Yeah. Okay, so you

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<v Speaker 1>brought them on to interview them on your show?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, all right, so a couple of moves back.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay. So for any of our cult members that

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<v Speaker 1>may not know who you are and what you're about,

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<v Speaker 1>give us the rundown. Your show is primarily conspiratorial based,

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<v Speaker 1>paranormal based. Where are we at?

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<v Speaker 2>It's primarily a paranormal ghosts cryptids UFOs. I generally have

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<v Speaker 2>guests on that come on, share their experiences, am I awesome?

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<v Speaker 2>A few questions and we get into it. Sometimes we

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<v Speaker 2>go off topic a little bit of conspiracy as well,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think paranormal conspiracy they come in hand in hand. Basically,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think you can have paranormal without conspiracy. So

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<v Speaker 2>we get into it. Oh, we get freaky, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Hell yeah, I just I just love all high strangest topics.

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<v Speaker 2>To be honest, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Love the name of your show. It cracks me up.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, man, I'm sure people are like, what

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<v Speaker 3>is he actually talking about that the wrong audience.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a different kind of freaky.

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<v Speaker 1>Freaky with a que and then they're like, wait, well.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, that's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're right though. As far as the conspiracy community,

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<v Speaker 1>you will it's a blending of the paranormal, the cryptids,

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<v Speaker 1>the government conspiracies, religious and spiritual conversations come into the

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<v Speaker 1>mix organically, and it's more or less just the the

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<v Speaker 1>known unknowns, right, Like, we know that there's things in

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<v Speaker 1>this world that we cannot explain, and with every single

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<v Speaker 1>thing that I just listed, and because of that, there's

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<v Speaker 1>layers upon layers of conspiratorial conversation that just naturally happens.

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<v Speaker 1>So I see where you're coming from.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, And there's so many rabbit holes, as you guys know,

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<v Speaker 2>You go down one rabbit hole and there's another ten.

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<v Speaker 2>You go down one of them and there's another three hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just and it's just wild. Man. It blows my mind.

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<v Speaker 2>It's I don't know if we're ever going to get

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<v Speaker 2>the answers to a lot of our questions, but I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think fun rubbing fun trying to find out, that's

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<v Speaker 2>for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh dude, we were just doing research for a show.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to be dropping a show on glitter here soon,

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<v Speaker 1>the glitter industry, right, big glitter. It's interesting, Uh, internet conspiracy,

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<v Speaker 1>not even giving the whole TLDR of it, because we

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<v Speaker 1>were going to drop an episode on it. But it

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<v Speaker 1>became an internet conspiracy in like eight because there was

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<v Speaker 1>like twenty eighteen, twenty eighteen, there was a shortage there.

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<v Speaker 3>So twenty eighteen is when the New York uh, the

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<v Speaker 3>New York Lady, the journalist made a piece on it.

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<v Speaker 1>So, right, there was a there was a shortage of glitter,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's a random thing for there to be a

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<v Speaker 1>global shortage on cut. Two New York Times does a

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<v Speaker 1>story on it, and then it became an internet conspiracy

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<v Speaker 1>and that led to a bunch of things from that

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<v Speaker 1>one conspiracy. We are bringing in the Manhattan Project, We're

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<v Speaker 1>bringing in Project paper Clip, We're bringing in the sand industry,

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<v Speaker 1>We're bringing in our food industry, We're bringing in the

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<v Speaker 1>government diamonds.

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<v Speaker 3>It's cartel.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, I had no fucking cartel revolt. I had

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<v Speaker 1>no fucking clues.

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<v Speaker 3>All of its intertwined. And I didn't even get to

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<v Speaker 3>share that with you last day that I found and

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh my god, like it. It is

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<v Speaker 3>a lot more in depth than what is on the surface.

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<v Speaker 3>It looks okay, I mean there's some like weird, but

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<v Speaker 3>then you start actually listening to what these people were

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<v Speaker 3>involved in and like where the companies are and what

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<v Speaker 3>and how it really got started and what's been going

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<v Speaker 3>on with it since, and it's like, okay, it's it's

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<v Speaker 3>one of those things that it had one or two

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<v Speaker 3>rabbit holes and then all of a sudden it turned

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<v Speaker 3>into like fifty This is.

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<v Speaker 1>Why we will never run out of shit to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no fucking way, yeah, no way, which is it

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<v Speaker 1>is good is that it's good for business.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, yeah, it's good for business, and we like, we

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<v Speaker 2>like in these conversations and as you say, that's just

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<v Speaker 2>glitter alone. Different side. It's wild, man, It's.

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<v Speaker 3>So wide end industry is So I can't wait to

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<v Speaker 3>do that episode because I've been sitting on that thing

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<v Speaker 3>for what two years now, and it is crazy because

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<v Speaker 3>it's not just like it will take you a good

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<v Speaker 3>week of research just to try to find and sift

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<v Speaker 3>through all the stuff, because the problem is is when

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<v Speaker 3>you try to track money, it takes forever to find stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>So when we did this vaccine one a long time ago,

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<v Speaker 3>it actually started with the bugs the mosquitos that the

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<v Speaker 3>bioengineered mosquitos, and it linked in to the Sultan or

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<v Speaker 3>whatever his name is, the Prince of Vaccines, which is

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<v Speaker 3>a company that Bill Gates has actually been a part of,

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<v Speaker 3>like helping for decades. But the only reason I knew

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<v Speaker 3>this was because I went to their uh, their actual page,

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<v Speaker 3>and I went and scrolled down through like hundreds of

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<v Speaker 3>pictures and throughout decades you see him in pictures with them.

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<v Speaker 1>And at the very bottom, once you scroll all the

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<v Speaker 1>way down, you see the logo of the Bill Melinda

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<v Speaker 1>Gates Foundation. But like, if you weren't looking for that,

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<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't have seen that. And so it's there's so

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<v Speaker 1>many things to unpack on everything. And that's just the

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<v Speaker 1>surface level governmental industrial conspiracies. Then we get into the

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<v Speaker 1>Crypti conversation that is a million rabbit holes on that.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get into the hollow Earth, let's get into the ghosties,

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<v Speaker 1>like all of it, all of it, man, So how long.

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<v Speaker 2>It all seems connected?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? They all do seem connected.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Yeah, Obviously there's a lot of different avenues to

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<v Speaker 2>go down. And you take like UFOs for example, there's

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<v Speaker 2>so much, there's so much to it. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>it's all the same thing. I think sometimes we put

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<v Speaker 2>everything involving in the UFOs in one box, but there's

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<v Speaker 2>so much going on that we say UFO, But is

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<v Speaker 2>it really? Is it all that?

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<v Speaker 4>You know?

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<v Speaker 5>I know that y not makes sense, but no, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>there's so much to it. So what do you believe

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<v Speaker 5>as far as UFOs is a great question. So some

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<v Speaker 5>people believe they're time travelers. Some people beleive their in

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<v Speaker 5>air dimensional, some people believe they're inner planetary. Some people

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<v Speaker 5>that you know, all there's so many opportunities for conjecture.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not letting it go the.

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<v Speaker 1>Pre mantis style. Yeah, the reason they.

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<v Speaker 3>Found out like a couple of months ago. I can't

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<v Speaker 3>get it out of my head.

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<v Speaker 2>The Primantis is a weird one. You know, a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people describe seeing these things and they're like six

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<v Speaker 2>foot seven foots all imagine that, man, you know, that

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<v Speaker 2>would be terrifying, but so many people claim to have

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<v Speaker 2>had that experience. I think there's a number of things

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<v Speaker 2>going on with as saying, within the UFO phenomena basically,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think they could be into dimensional beings that

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<v Speaker 2>live amongst us. I think that's that that is a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that has happening. I think there is realms

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<v Speaker 2>around us that we can't see that sometimes we get

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<v Speaker 2>a glimpse of. I do think that they could be possibly.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, obviously, our government have got technology that we

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<v Speaker 2>don't know about. I'm very sure, obviously, and some of

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<v Speaker 2>it's that. And I do think there could be things

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<v Speaker 2>coming from you know, other planets. What I mentioned, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, but I think is I think it's all there.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's all a part of the same not

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<v Speaker 2>the same thing. We put it in the same box,

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<v Speaker 2>but yes, it's different things. Yeah, absolutely, And that's why

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<v Speaker 2>it's so hard to get answers. I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's why it's We're gonna keep carry on

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<v Speaker 2>talking about it because there's gonna be more, more, more

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<v Speaker 2>and more.

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<v Speaker 3>Well speaking of aliens and government. So we had some

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<v Speaker 3>cult members send me some tiktoks and and stuff about Greenland. Actually,

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<v Speaker 3>and there is a large conspiracy apparently a bruin about

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<v Speaker 3>alien and alien tech that's underneath the ice, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's why Trump started to make his deal with NATO,

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<v Speaker 3>So I got sent two different videos on it, and

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<v Speaker 3>something like that. That is one of the reasons why

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<v Speaker 3>everyone is after this place on top of all of

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<v Speaker 3>The rare earth gives me rare earth minerals that they

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<v Speaker 3>now there's a lot of conversation that yes, in fact

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<v Speaker 3>of the world. And so there's like multiple, multiple reasons,

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<v Speaker 3>plus the military strategy and stuff. So I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>what do you think. Have you heard? Have you heard

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not I've not heard the alien connection to it.

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<v Speaker 2>But obviously Greenland is is a big toalking point at

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<v Speaker 2>the moment. The UK government is pretty wild at the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's very clear. I know, every government's crazy

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<v Speaker 2>and every government's corrupt.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm not really a big fan of your prime

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<v Speaker 2>But and nobody is. He is the most hated prime

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<v Speaker 1>The Muslims love.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's yeah, that's another but most

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<v Speaker 2>people in the UK he's the worst in history. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>to put myself in a left or right box. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys know it calls it mayhem and I believe

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<v Speaker 2>they're all corrupt anyway. I really do don't trust anyone,

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<v Speaker 2>but he is like I've never seen such are coming

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<v Speaker 2>together of hatred for our prime minister. You know, the

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<v Speaker 2>UK is fighting back. I know it might not look

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<v Speaker 2>like it when you go an X and things like that,

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<v Speaker 2>and and they are definitely trying to control it and

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<v Speaker 2>on in the UK and it's happening. It's it's scary times,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it was last year or the

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<v Speaker 2>year before, twelve thousand people got arrested for social media posts. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that to me is insane. You know, whether you're inciting

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<v Speaker 2>violence or not, I don't think you should be. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean it's a tough one. If you're fretting to kill

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<v Speaker 2>someone on social.

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<v Speaker 1>Media, yeah, that's different.

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<v Speaker 2>That's different. Yeah, I think I think maybe.

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<v Speaker 1>They having a hot take is not inciting violence or

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<v Speaker 1>calling for violence saying hey, I don't know when this

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<v Speaker 1>country And for the record, that could be an American

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<v Speaker 1>talking point as well. It's like, I don't know when

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<v Speaker 1>is bullshit. That's not a hateful thing to say. But

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely in anywhere within the British Commonwealth, such a post

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<v Speaker 1>just might get a knock on your door and it's ridiculous, yeah, or.

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<v Speaker 2>A meme you're hearing memes. Yeah, I mean I post

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<v Speaker 2>some pretty well stuff on my ex I've got a

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<v Speaker 2>massive following on why my postal x Well, I've said

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<v Speaker 2>something that maybe I might get a knock one day,

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<v Speaker 2>but I mean, I'm not to stop. I think free

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<v Speaker 2>speech is so important and I think most people, whatever

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<v Speaker 2>your political views are, agree with that. I don't nobody

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<v Speaker 2>surely thinks it's right to get put in jail for

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<v Speaker 2>a tweet.

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<v Speaker 3>That's in hell Iran. It's you know, protesting being killed

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<v Speaker 3>and they sent starlink to be able to see what's happening,

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<v Speaker 3>and then they block starlink again. So I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 3>freedom of speech should be. There is a delicate, delicate

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<v Speaker 3>balance when it comes to certain things like if you're

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<v Speaker 3>inciting violence to kill people on masks or do things,

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<v Speaker 3>then okay, that's that's a different talking point. But to

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<v Speaker 3>protest somebody that is clearly putting everyone in harm's way

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<v Speaker 3>and changing policies and doing things that the mass is

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<v Speaker 3>not okay with, like we are the reason why you're

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<v Speaker 3>in those positions. You're not here for yourself. You're supposed

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<v Speaker 3>to be here for us, and if you aren't here

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<v Speaker 3>for us, well then you need to leave. And that

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<v Speaker 3>just is what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, And so I've seen there is a I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to say a rebellion, but like you said, the

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<v Speaker 1>British people are fighting back in small ways, but ways

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<v Speaker 1>that do matter. Right now, I've heard that they are

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<v Speaker 1>about to instate a one year mandatory year of service

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<v Speaker 1>into the military for any new adult. Now it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like conscription, right, a one year conscription type

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<v Speaker 1>of thing. Do you I don't know if this is forced,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's going to be optional whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>From your end, do you think that this might be

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<v Speaker 1>the British government trying to regain a grip on their

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<v Speaker 1>people or is this because their military has gotten so

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<v Speaker 1>lax of days gool that they really just need the numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's a mixture of both. I think the

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<v Speaker 2>government is definitely trying to get more of a grip

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<v Speaker 2>on its play. You know that they've made that clear.

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<v Speaker 2>They're threatening to ban X a couple of weeks ago

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<v Speaker 2>than if you guys saw that completely taking X from

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<v Speaker 2>the UK. There was a massive pushback on that with

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<v Speaker 2>the the joining the military for a year. I'm very

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<v Speaker 2>against that. You know. I've got young kids and there's

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<v Speaker 2>no way I want them fighting wars for these psychopaths

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<v Speaker 2>that don't care about us. They try and make out

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<v Speaker 2>it's like being patriot about it. It's not about that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. It's about it's about money, and it's about power,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's about that they don't care about us. We're

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<v Speaker 2>ponds in this game. So I really don't want my

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<v Speaker 2>kids to be fighting in any wars. You know. I

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<v Speaker 2>do think I've got massive respect for military. I know

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<v Speaker 2>people in the military. Military in the area that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>in right now is quite a big thing. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people involved in the military. I've got nothing

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<v Speaker 2>against the military. They're great, we need them, but it

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<v Speaker 2>should be a choice. Yeah, you know, I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>you should be pushed into that situation. You know, if

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<v Speaker 2>you believe that you want to fight for your country, great,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, do that. But for me to be forced

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<v Speaker 2>to do it, even if it's just for you, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know what that means. If they're thinking of

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<v Speaker 2>doing that, they're thinking about wars in the future, and

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<v Speaker 2>we can see that. We can see that right in

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<v Speaker 2>front of us now. It's a threat any moment, it

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<v Speaker 2>could kick off at any moment. It's very It's never

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<v Speaker 2>felt like that before in my lifetime in the UK

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<v Speaker 2>as it does now, so you can kind of see

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<v Speaker 2>them gear intowards doing that. I look at the youth

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<v Speaker 2>today though, and I can't see them doing it, to

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<v Speaker 2>be honest.

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<v Speaker 1>Now many of the youth are feeling uper patriotic.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely not. It's not there anymore, you know. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>soccer in the UK is you know, it is huge.

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<v Speaker 1>Believe you called it the S word, look at you.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it. Yeah, yeah, but I mean that's still

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<v Speaker 1>that's still the national sport though, right Like, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>gets the people going regardless.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's it. That's that's where people will get patriotic.

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<v Speaker 2>And then after that people don't really care. You have

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<v Speaker 2>got to raise the flags in the UK at the moment,

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<v Speaker 2>which is another big thing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a big protest. I'm seeing a lot of Yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think it's great. I can't understand why people take that

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<v Speaker 2>as a racist thing or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe your Prime Minister tried making it an

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<v Speaker 1>issue and they didn't make it almost illegal, but they

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<v Speaker 1>were trying to push it to make it illegal.

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<v Speaker 2>They were pulling it down. Yeah, the councilors were pulling

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<v Speaker 2>them down. The flags. Our own flags were seen as

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<v Speaker 2>and they still try and make it like you're a

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<v Speaker 2>racist and you know you're you know, it's wild because

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<v Speaker 2>it's not. You know, to be proud of where you're from,

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<v Speaker 2>to be proud of your flag is normal. It's very

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<v Speaker 2>normal and you should expect people to be proud of that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and not so much where I live now.

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<v Speaker 2>I live more in the countryside now, but I'm originally

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<v Speaker 2>from Essex which is right next to London. When I

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<v Speaker 2>go back to Essex now, there are flags everywhere, you

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<v Speaker 2>know where I used to live, and it's great to see. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a fight back. People are saying, oh screw you,

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<v Speaker 2>we're putting our flags up and on every you know,

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<v Speaker 2>lamp post there's a flag as a British flag or

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the England flag, and it's it's cool. That's

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<v Speaker 2>quite cool to see. I think, very good. Mainstream. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to make you feel bad for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're going to anyway, because that's what the mainstream does.

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<v Speaker 1>I was the article I read was from the BBC,

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<v Speaker 1>which I know, take that publication as you want, I

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<v Speaker 1>get it, but it was basically saying that this year

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<v Speaker 1>of service for all the young people was going Basically

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<v Speaker 1>they tried wording it to say that Britain has no jobs,

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<v Speaker 1>right for whatever reason, these kids coming straight out of school,

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<v Speaker 1>some of them want to go to university, some of

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<v Speaker 1>them want to get straight into a craft of some type,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's just no jobs waiting on them. So they're

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<v Speaker 1>hoping that this would be an enticing offer to bolster

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<v Speaker 1>military numbers and then also give them some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>a job training quote unquote and maybe help them get

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<v Speaker 1>to college or help them get to the to the

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<v Speaker 1>career fields. And again, I guess in certain regards I

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<v Speaker 1>could see that right, but more often than not doing

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<v Speaker 1>it to the level that they were talking about you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to get the people that you really don't want

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<v Speaker 1>in the military serving and that's going to cause way

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<v Speaker 1>more problems than they will cause benefits.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it just absolutely yeah, Yeah, I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>something you want to do to really and I think

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to go down that route, I think

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<v Speaker 2>that that's great, but that it should be a choice.

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<v Speaker 2>And the four my kids having to do that for

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<v Speaker 2>a year, it would break my heart. And I laving.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be in a legal alien in the US, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm coming out here waiting.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't think Trump's really trying to kick out

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<v Speaker 1>the British people, be honest with you, Yes, indeed, So

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<v Speaker 1>how long you go ahead?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, I was going to say. I actually use

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<v Speaker 3>the BBC a lot for inspiration to find articles.

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<v Speaker 1>It depends on what you're looking into with them. They

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<v Speaker 1>can be good or if it's anything politically charged, it's

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, it's going to be extremely biased. What I find interesting, though,

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<v Speaker 3>is that they actually produce a lot more articles about

420
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<v Speaker 3>our country than they do about their own. That's crazy too,

421
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<v Speaker 3>And so we can find a bunch of information that's

422
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<v Speaker 3>being suppressed in some other areas from BBC, and I'm like,

423
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<v Speaker 3>how is this a thing? But of course if you

424
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<v Speaker 3>look for anything that's going on over there, it's like

425
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<v Speaker 3>it's fine. You know, uh.

426
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<v Speaker 1>Olga is Al Jazeera.

427
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I use that thing like crazy because you know what,

428
00:21:08.920 --> 00:21:11.079
<v Speaker 3>they will post a lot of crap and you can

429
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<v Speaker 3>actually go down rabbit holes with that.

430
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<v Speaker 1>So same thing though, right So Al Jazeera is a

431
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<v Speaker 1>Katari owned publication, right, So if you followed the trail

432
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<v Speaker 1>of the money, like, for instance, the situation Venezuela, Yeah,

433
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<v Speaker 1>Katar has no dog in any fight that has to

434
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<v Speaker 1>do with Venezuela, so they'll more often than not give

435
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<v Speaker 1>an unbiased opinion right now. However, if there is a

436
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<v Speaker 1>Katari royal that has been investing in some Venezuelan businesses

437
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<v Speaker 1>in the last year, then perhaps Al Jazeero will have

438
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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a bias to it. It's it depends.

439
00:21:39.519 --> 00:21:42.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I assume everything I read is mostly bias

440
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<v Speaker 3>based and so, but I actually can find a lot

441
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<v Speaker 3>more information on those two than I can on a

442
00:21:49.119 --> 00:21:52.640
<v Speaker 3>lot of American sites because they just they regurgitate the

443
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<v Speaker 3>same things on repeat and they don't actually really differ

444
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<v Speaker 3>from each other whereas at least the other countries seem

445
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<v Speaker 3>to drop more things that you can kind of chase

446
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<v Speaker 3>down a rabbit hole instead. But I think when it

447
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<v Speaker 3>comes to any news station, outlet, whatever you want to

448
00:22:07.160 --> 00:22:09.559
<v Speaker 3>call it, newspaper, it's everything is kind of like a

449
00:22:10.440 --> 00:22:14.319
<v Speaker 3>I mean, hell, even science, you know, peer reviewed stuff, right,

450
00:22:14.319 --> 00:22:15.960
<v Speaker 3>you got to take with a grain of salt because

451
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<v Speaker 3>who's funding these research? You know, who's funding it, Who's

452
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<v Speaker 3>who's actually in the who's going to profit from these

453
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<v Speaker 3>types of research?

454
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<v Speaker 2>Right?

455
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<v Speaker 1>And then the backside of that, Remember when Trump got

456
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<v Speaker 1>elected and he beat Kamala, Right, for some reason, the

457
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<v Speaker 1>BBC and Al Jazeera and Times India and all these

458
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<v Speaker 1>international news outlets, they thought that it was a super

459
00:22:37.200 --> 00:22:40.000
<v Speaker 1>close race up until the last second. How did he

460
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<v Speaker 1>pull this off? Meanwhile, everybody in America's like, this was

461
00:22:43.680 --> 00:22:47.400
<v Speaker 1>never close in the race whatsoever. This was a hands

462
00:22:47.400 --> 00:22:50.880
<v Speaker 1>down ass whooping and it always was. This wasn't. But

463
00:22:50.920 --> 00:22:52.519
<v Speaker 1>that's that's the other side of it, right, It's not

464
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<v Speaker 1>even about the bias. Sometimes these places that don't have

465
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<v Speaker 1>a dog in the fight of what's going on get

466
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<v Speaker 1>bad intel and they're just supporting on what it is.

467
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<v Speaker 1>I'm with you. I look at Out of Zero a lot.

468
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<v Speaker 1>I look at BBC a lot, like ha jokes and

469
00:23:05.799 --> 00:23:09.200
<v Speaker 1>jokes intended, that's funny. I look at Times India a lot.

470
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<v Speaker 1>There's I dinna say.

471
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<v Speaker 3>Uh, South Korea.

472
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<v Speaker 1>South Korea news goes hard.

473
00:23:13.720 --> 00:23:16.079
<v Speaker 3>South Korean news goes hard as ship.

474
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

475
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<v Speaker 3>No, they report about all sorts of stuff.

476
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<v Speaker 1>They're overtly uh what's the word I'm looking for. Offensive.

477
00:23:22.720 --> 00:23:24.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're extremely offensive.

478
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<v Speaker 1>They don't care. It's great.

479
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

480
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<v Speaker 3>The way that they report is kind of just like,

481
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<v Speaker 3>you know what, here's what these fuckers are doing, and

482
00:23:32.559 --> 00:23:35.400
<v Speaker 3>like it's but you can actually find quite a bit

483
00:23:35.400 --> 00:23:37.960
<v Speaker 3>of information, especially in fields where you don't think to

484
00:23:38.119 --> 00:23:41.119
<v Speaker 3>look so like the mineral fields and things that are

485
00:23:41.200 --> 00:23:43.960
<v Speaker 3>kind of like off the beaten path, about what's going

486
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<v Speaker 3>on with different stuff around the world that's actually impacting people.

487
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<v Speaker 3>That for some reason is one of the places. I

488
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<v Speaker 3>don't know why, but yeah.

489
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, because I would say the U kind of the

490
00:23:54.000 --> 00:23:59.160
<v Speaker 2>US how politics are quite intertwined anyway, trumps on the

491
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<v Speaker 2>telly every day in the UK and US politics. I

492
00:24:02.880 --> 00:24:05.240
<v Speaker 2>probably hear more about the UK politics, to be honest,

493
00:24:05.279 --> 00:24:08.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's it's very much a lot about us.

494
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<v Speaker 1>That's the whole world. The whole world knows what Trump

495
00:24:11.640 --> 00:24:13.920
<v Speaker 1>is doing. I got no fucking clue what Kiir Starmer

496
00:24:13.960 --> 00:24:17.519
<v Speaker 1>is doing today, but they know what Trump. I don't

497
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<v Speaker 1>think he knows honestly.

498
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<v Speaker 3>What's her name? Batship Bonkers, Britain, Katie something. Yes, she's

499
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<v Speaker 3>like superheated's wild, she's superheated, But I love her. She's

500
00:24:30.839 --> 00:24:33.240
<v Speaker 3>she does not pull punches about ship at all.

501
00:24:34.119 --> 00:24:36.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's seen as like a very you know, a

502
00:24:36.640 --> 00:24:38.440
<v Speaker 2>lot of people don't like her in the organ but

503
00:24:38.559 --> 00:24:40.440
<v Speaker 2>that's what the mainstream will say. Anyway, She's got a

504
00:24:40.519 --> 00:24:44.000
<v Speaker 2>huge following. She just says it how she sees it.

505
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<v Speaker 2>She says how she sees it, and I think that's

506
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<v Speaker 2>I think that's so important. You're never going to agree

507
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<v Speaker 2>with everyone on everything, you know, nobody is. Yeah, my

508
00:24:52.480 --> 00:24:54.640
<v Speaker 2>wife we argue all the time about stuff. We don't

509
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<v Speaker 2>agree with everything. You're never going to but you need

510
00:24:58.039 --> 00:25:00.640
<v Speaker 2>to see everything. You need to hear other people. And

511
00:25:00.720 --> 00:25:03.519
<v Speaker 2>Kurtie hoped she's a perfect example. She would just say

512
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<v Speaker 2>I don't.

513
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<v Speaker 3>Agree with everything she says, but there is a lot

514
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<v Speaker 3>of stuff that she's the least highlighting and being like

515
00:25:11.240 --> 00:25:14.799
<v Speaker 3>this is crazy, So we should all be Mike maybe

516
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<v Speaker 3>saying this is crazy, the whole surveillance thing, the cameras

517
00:25:19.039 --> 00:25:21.960
<v Speaker 3>everywhere and stuff, and how there is like people going

518
00:25:21.960 --> 00:25:24.880
<v Speaker 3>around and putting the cement foam on them so then

519
00:25:24.920 --> 00:25:27.319
<v Speaker 3>they have to be taken down and stuff. And you know,

520
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<v Speaker 3>without her though telling where these locations were, I feel

521
00:25:32.559 --> 00:25:34.200
<v Speaker 3>like they would still be up and that. You know,

522
00:25:34.279 --> 00:25:36.519
<v Speaker 3>there's just a lot of different things that she came here.

523
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<v Speaker 3>She was actually here for January sixth. She's here in

524
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<v Speaker 3>country when that happened as well, and there's a lot

525
00:25:42.200 --> 00:25:44.960
<v Speaker 3>of different stuff that she's covered. I feel like she's

526
00:25:45.000 --> 00:25:47.039
<v Speaker 3>actually a lot more popular than what they want to

527
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<v Speaker 3>lead on because she's popular here in the US and

528
00:25:49.799 --> 00:25:52.480
<v Speaker 3>popular over there too, and she is a massive following.

529
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<v Speaker 3>But she had been arrested like ten times. I think

530
00:25:56.480 --> 00:25:58.519
<v Speaker 3>she was kicked out of the country for like a

531
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<v Speaker 3>year and a half or something. She couldn't go back,

532
00:26:01.160 --> 00:26:03.319
<v Speaker 3>and she's all sorts of stuff have happened to her.

533
00:26:03.319 --> 00:26:06.559
<v Speaker 3>Because she has, you know, her platform, she's gonna see

534
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<v Speaker 3>whatever she wants.

535
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<v Speaker 2>She had to go at ginger guys once and I

536
00:26:09.880 --> 00:26:13.680
<v Speaker 2>was like, whoa, yeah, that's too far, too far.

537
00:26:13.599 --> 00:26:15.640
<v Speaker 1>Man too far?

538
00:26:15.119 --> 00:26:19.720
<v Speaker 2>Oh how dare she? But I think it's I think

539
00:26:19.759 --> 00:26:22.440
<v Speaker 2>it's so important. Have you seen what's happened in the

540
00:26:22.519 --> 00:26:24.960
<v Speaker 2>UK regarding local elections?

541
00:26:25.680 --> 00:26:28.799
<v Speaker 1>I have heard small things, but give us the breakdown, dude.

542
00:26:29.200 --> 00:26:31.960
<v Speaker 2>So obviously Kirstein was in a very bad place right

543
00:26:31.960 --> 00:26:34.759
<v Speaker 2>now is even The thing is, I can't believe he's

544
00:26:34.759 --> 00:26:38.160
<v Speaker 2>not stepped down. It's it's unbelievable that he's still like

545
00:26:38.200 --> 00:26:40.200
<v Speaker 2>going to be honest, I don't know how. The only

546
00:26:40.240 --> 00:26:42.920
<v Speaker 2>thing I can think is that he's obviously controlled by

547
00:26:42.960 --> 00:26:46.440
<v Speaker 2>someone else. Who that is? We don't know China who who?

548
00:26:46.599 --> 00:26:49.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't know who it is maybe, but he definitely

549
00:26:49.759 --> 00:26:52.359
<v Speaker 2>seems to be acting not on the not in behalf

550
00:26:52.359 --> 00:26:55.319
<v Speaker 2>of the British people. He's He is acting for someone else,

551
00:26:55.799 --> 00:26:58.160
<v Speaker 2>paid for. He's bought and paid. It must be so

552
00:26:58.240 --> 00:27:00.279
<v Speaker 2>that must be why he's not standing down, because he's

553
00:27:00.279 --> 00:27:03.440
<v Speaker 2>doing is what he's meant to be doing. But he's

554
00:27:03.480 --> 00:27:06.400
<v Speaker 2>We've got a new government, a new party in the

555
00:27:06.519 --> 00:27:09.279
<v Speaker 2>UK called Reform.

556
00:27:08.799 --> 00:27:10.279
<v Speaker 1>The Reform Party, I've heard of.

557
00:27:10.240 --> 00:27:14.559
<v Speaker 2>Them party and it's Nigel Farage again. The mainstream media

558
00:27:14.559 --> 00:27:16.720
<v Speaker 2>will tell you he's a horrible man. He's hated, but

559
00:27:16.839 --> 00:27:18.759
<v Speaker 2>he's at the moment he's winning the polls.

560
00:27:19.000 --> 00:27:20.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say, Nigel, I've heard a lot of good

561
00:27:20.920 --> 00:27:22.920
<v Speaker 1>things about him, but not from the news. I've heard

562
00:27:22.960 --> 00:27:24.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot of good things about him from British people.

563
00:27:25.519 --> 00:27:28.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah absolutely, yeah, absolutely, And again you don't have to

564
00:27:28.240 --> 00:27:31.720
<v Speaker 2>agree with everything he says, but which you don't agree

565
00:27:31.720 --> 00:27:33.880
<v Speaker 2>with what everyone says all the time, even Trump like

566
00:27:33.920 --> 00:27:35.920
<v Speaker 2>people are going to a lot of people won't agree

567
00:27:35.960 --> 00:27:39.519
<v Speaker 2>with everything he says. And he's he's very good friends

568
00:27:39.519 --> 00:27:44.279
<v Speaker 2>with Trump as well. Yeah, he's always over there. He's

569
00:27:44.279 --> 00:27:46.920
<v Speaker 2>got a party called Reform and that is whenever there's

570
00:27:46.920 --> 00:27:50.440
<v Speaker 2>another general election if there was one right now, pretty

571
00:27:50.480 --> 00:27:53.160
<v Speaker 2>much guarantee to win. But that's what people are saying anyway.

572
00:27:53.240 --> 00:27:55.319
<v Speaker 3>So what is the party about. I've actually not heard

573
00:27:55.359 --> 00:27:56.680
<v Speaker 3>of this, so it's.

574
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<v Speaker 2>So obviously it's Conservatives and Labor. Like in the US,

575
00:27:59.799 --> 00:28:02.519
<v Speaker 2>there's two parties always, that's always how it's been. There

576
00:28:02.519 --> 00:28:05.039
<v Speaker 2>are other ones, but they never really get a sniff.

577
00:28:06.000 --> 00:28:09.559
<v Speaker 2>But the Conservatives in the UK were so bad, so bad,

578
00:28:09.599 --> 00:28:11.519
<v Speaker 2>and it was during like twenty twenty when we all

579
00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:14.079
<v Speaker 2>know what happened there. That's where it really kicked off.

580
00:28:14.119 --> 00:28:16.119
<v Speaker 2>And they had no chance of getting back in and

581
00:28:16.599 --> 00:28:19.400
<v Speaker 2>Labor came in and obviously it's got even worse. But

582
00:28:19.480 --> 00:28:23.079
<v Speaker 2>so reform is like the old Conservatives. Basically, it's kind

583
00:28:23.079 --> 00:28:26.200
<v Speaker 2>of like old British values. And again it's not about

584
00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:28.279
<v Speaker 2>hating anyone, not letting people in the state. It's just

585
00:28:28.279 --> 00:28:31.480
<v Speaker 2>about letting people in that are right to be there,

586
00:28:31.519 --> 00:28:33.920
<v Speaker 2>that want to be there, you know, not people that

587
00:28:33.920 --> 00:28:36.680
<v Speaker 2>are here that don't like us basically, which is crazy.

588
00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:40.240
<v Speaker 2>And again i'd get a lot of flat I know

589
00:28:40.279 --> 00:28:41.920
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people would hear me say this now

590
00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:44.599
<v Speaker 2>and hate me for it, but it's just it's most

591
00:28:44.640 --> 00:28:49.039
<v Speaker 2>people I think think it as well. So reform we

592
00:28:49.160 --> 00:28:51.519
<v Speaker 2>are pretty much the favorites to get in next time.

593
00:28:51.759 --> 00:28:54.119
<v Speaker 2>So we have local elections like you guys do, where

594
00:28:54.880 --> 00:28:59.680
<v Speaker 2>locally the parties will lead, and they've canceled. I don't

595
00:28:59.680 --> 00:29:04.000
<v Speaker 2>know these act number, but Labour have canceled. So it's

596
00:29:04.039 --> 00:29:06.559
<v Speaker 2>four point five million people are not allowed to vote

597
00:29:06.559 --> 00:29:11.680
<v Speaker 2>in the next local election. And basically, the in a nutshell,

598
00:29:11.720 --> 00:29:15.119
<v Speaker 2>it's because reform we're going to take those places, which

599
00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:18.160
<v Speaker 2>would be yeah, and that's happening. It's happening right in

600
00:29:18.200 --> 00:29:20.759
<v Speaker 2>front of us, and there is outrage obviously if you

601
00:29:20.839 --> 00:29:23.480
<v Speaker 2>go on X and stuff like that. Mainstream news is

602
00:29:23.480 --> 00:29:27.039
<v Speaker 2>not really talking about it that much, you know, Yeah,

603
00:29:27.160 --> 00:29:30.160
<v Speaker 2>it should be like people should be furious, whatever side

604
00:29:30.200 --> 00:29:32.640
<v Speaker 2>of the fence you are. And if you start, if

605
00:29:32.680 --> 00:29:35.680
<v Speaker 2>you stop people from voting one way because you don't

606
00:29:35.720 --> 00:29:38.039
<v Speaker 2>agree with that, that's like a dictatorship. That is that

607
00:29:38.119 --> 00:29:40.920
<v Speaker 2>is tyranny, that is taking away the people's voice. And

608
00:29:40.960 --> 00:29:43.680
<v Speaker 2>that's exactly what Keir Starmer's doing.

609
00:29:44.319 --> 00:29:47.160
<v Speaker 1>Wow, I'm going to look up what's the population of

610
00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:48.960
<v Speaker 1>Britain right now, like give or take.

611
00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:51.240
<v Speaker 2>Even no, I think it's thirty three million, but I

612
00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:54.960
<v Speaker 2>must be one that I actually don't know. We are

613
00:29:55.000 --> 00:29:57.200
<v Speaker 2>pretty small. It's probably more than thirty three minutes.

614
00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:02.960
<v Speaker 1>You know. I'm not even just I'm gonna do for

615
00:30:03.039 --> 00:30:05.680
<v Speaker 1>this for the whole UK? Corrector is this for Britain proper?

616
00:30:06.599 --> 00:30:07.680
<v Speaker 2>This is for the whole UK?

617
00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:08.200
<v Speaker 1>Okay?

618
00:30:08.240 --> 00:30:09.000
<v Speaker 2>I think? Yeah.

619
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<v Speaker 1>So the population of the UK is seventy one point

620
00:30:12.480 --> 00:30:16.599
<v Speaker 1>three million. Okay, so seventy one million not too bad,

621
00:30:16.759 --> 00:30:19.880
<v Speaker 1>it's not. But of that four million aren't allowed to

622
00:30:19.960 --> 00:30:21.319
<v Speaker 1>vote in this next election.

623
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<v Speaker 2>At the moment.

624
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<v Speaker 1>At the moment, that's yeah, that's.

625
00:30:24.839 --> 00:30:27.279
<v Speaker 2>Pretty I don't know if that's just in England or

626
00:30:27.279 --> 00:30:30.519
<v Speaker 2>if it's like well, Scotland, I'm not quite sure, but

627
00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:33.279
<v Speaker 2>they are in they are in Wales in Scotland as well,

628
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<v Speaker 2>were a film.

629
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<v Speaker 1>So I know. I know in America anyway, like less

630
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<v Speaker 1>than half of the people that actually can vote actually

631
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<v Speaker 1>do vote, right, So I don't know how close that is.

632
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<v Speaker 3>In the UK, we have a lot of people that

633
00:30:43.599 --> 00:30:46.119
<v Speaker 3>don't vote because a lot of people feel like their

634
00:30:46.200 --> 00:30:49.960
<v Speaker 3>vote their votes don't really matter because even so, like

635
00:30:50.000 --> 00:30:53.720
<v Speaker 3>the Libertarian Party when they have actually a good candidate,

636
00:30:53.839 --> 00:30:55.720
<v Speaker 3>a lot of people that have voted just feel like

637
00:30:55.759 --> 00:30:57.960
<v Speaker 3>you're just pissing your vote away, because if you don't

638
00:30:58.000 --> 00:31:01.240
<v Speaker 3>vote for one of the two parties, then does it

639
00:31:01.279 --> 00:31:04.240
<v Speaker 3>really even matter? But it sums because if we could

640
00:31:04.279 --> 00:31:06.839
<v Speaker 3>actually get the other the rest of the voters going,

641
00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:10.039
<v Speaker 3>then you know, potentially a new party might be able

642
00:31:10.079 --> 00:31:12.839
<v Speaker 3>to pave its way and take a you know, take over,

643
00:31:13.119 --> 00:31:17.200
<v Speaker 3>make some actual changes. So I don't know. It's interesting though,

644
00:31:17.200 --> 00:31:20.319
<v Speaker 3>that they are trying to suppress so much of you guys.

645
00:31:20.359 --> 00:31:22.119
<v Speaker 3>I'm wondering if it's actually going to get to a

646
00:31:22.119 --> 00:31:24.839
<v Speaker 3>point where a real revolution will happen. I don't even

647
00:31:24.839 --> 00:31:27.599
<v Speaker 3>know if people really have that in them though nowadays.

648
00:31:27.720 --> 00:31:30.920
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, look, twenty eight point nine million people voted

649
00:31:31.079 --> 00:31:33.880
<v Speaker 1>in UK's last election, so you have a population of

650
00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:37.160
<v Speaker 1>seventy one so only twenty eight and half and of

651
00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:40.200
<v Speaker 1>that twenty eight four million won't be able to vote.

652
00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:42.519
<v Speaker 1>Now that that's that's some actual numbers.

653
00:31:42.559 --> 00:31:45.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's way more significant.

654
00:31:45.640 --> 00:31:49.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely, And the areas that they've stopped, you can

655
00:31:49.319 --> 00:31:50.960
<v Speaker 2>imagine a lot of people are going to vote because

656
00:31:50.960 --> 00:31:53.480
<v Speaker 2>they're very unhappy areas, you know, So it would have

657
00:31:53.519 --> 00:31:56.960
<v Speaker 2>there would have been change there is. I believe they've

658
00:31:56.960 --> 00:31:58.640
<v Speaker 2>been sued for that, and there is going to be

659
00:31:58.680 --> 00:32:01.599
<v Speaker 2>a fight for those still, which how it should be

660
00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:04.519
<v Speaker 2>like it's crazy that they can even do anyway, But yeah,

661
00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:07.200
<v Speaker 2>I do think that there will be there is. There

662
00:32:07.279 --> 00:32:09.400
<v Speaker 2>is a giant pushback, and I do think people are

663
00:32:09.400 --> 00:32:13.680
<v Speaker 2>getting more and more frustrated. The thing is, I means

664
00:32:14.039 --> 00:32:16.319
<v Speaker 2>I don't really like politics about to be honest, as

665
00:32:16.359 --> 00:32:18.000
<v Speaker 2>I said at the start, I don't really trust too

666
00:32:18.079 --> 00:32:20.119
<v Speaker 2>many of them. I think they're all bought and paid

667
00:32:20.160 --> 00:32:23.200
<v Speaker 2>for to an extent. Anyway, I remember my granddad, like

668
00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:25.519
<v Speaker 2>when I was a kid, saying to me the politicians

669
00:32:25.519 --> 00:32:28.400
<v Speaker 2>are just puppets and there's people above them. That was

670
00:32:28.440 --> 00:32:30.680
<v Speaker 2>my granddad's time, and I don't think he was really

671
00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:32.960
<v Speaker 2>into like conspiracies and stuff, but he used to say it.

672
00:32:33.440 --> 00:32:37.079
<v Speaker 2>So I've never really trusted politicians. The problem is now

673
00:32:37.279 --> 00:32:38.960
<v Speaker 2>with the government that we've got now and the times

674
00:32:39.000 --> 00:32:40.880
<v Speaker 2>that we're in now, they don't really give you a

675
00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:43.000
<v Speaker 2>choice not to look into it because if you turn in,

676
00:32:43.079 --> 00:32:45.559
<v Speaker 2>if you turn a blind eye, now, they're just going

677
00:32:45.640 --> 00:32:49.240
<v Speaker 2>to destroy your house, right, you know, And you can't

678
00:32:49.279 --> 00:32:51.240
<v Speaker 2>have that. You've got to fight back for your kids.

679
00:32:51.640 --> 00:32:56.799
<v Speaker 3>And I've got kids. I've never really been about the

680
00:32:56.839 --> 00:33:00.519
<v Speaker 3>politics of stuff. I really never cared that much. And

681
00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:03.319
<v Speaker 3>then as I got older and then I had children,

682
00:33:03.359 --> 00:33:07.079
<v Speaker 3>then I recognized that if I don't care, then it's

683
00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:10.000
<v Speaker 3>going to impact my children and me, and then our

684
00:33:10.079 --> 00:33:13.279
<v Speaker 3>rights are slowly going to be taken away and everything

685
00:33:13.359 --> 00:33:16.440
<v Speaker 3>that you know, I held dear was going to be changed.

686
00:33:16.480 --> 00:33:18.440
<v Speaker 3>And it's like, Okay, I guess I have to like

687
00:33:18.599 --> 00:33:22.359
<v Speaker 3>actually learn politics and start reading more on this and

688
00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:25.680
<v Speaker 3>start actually caring. And a friend of mine was like,

689
00:33:26.160 --> 00:33:28.480
<v Speaker 3>you don't really like politics. I was like, I actually don't.

690
00:33:28.799 --> 00:33:32.119
<v Speaker 3>But if we don't pay attention they're just going to

691
00:33:32.160 --> 00:33:34.880
<v Speaker 3>pull one over. And hell, even when we are paying attention,

692
00:33:35.200 --> 00:33:38.039
<v Speaker 3>they're still pulling them over on us because all the

693
00:33:38.079 --> 00:33:40.880
<v Speaker 3>bills are so massive that they hide shit in between,

694
00:33:40.960 --> 00:33:42.720
<v Speaker 3>and then we don't even know about it till it's

695
00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:45.960
<v Speaker 3>way too late. It's already been passed and it's already implemented,

696
00:33:46.000 --> 00:33:48.000
<v Speaker 3>and then we find out and then it's like, well,

697
00:33:48.000 --> 00:33:49.799
<v Speaker 3>what are we going to do? But I just don't

698
00:33:49.839 --> 00:33:53.559
<v Speaker 3>know if people have it within them nowadays to really

699
00:33:53.599 --> 00:33:56.519
<v Speaker 3>stand up and do like a French Revolution style and

700
00:33:56.519 --> 00:33:58.839
<v Speaker 3>be like cool, So we're coming for you.

701
00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:02.119
<v Speaker 1>And that's it. Just like you said, when you get kids,

702
00:34:02.440 --> 00:34:04.680
<v Speaker 1>you have to realize that you're training them for the

703
00:34:04.720 --> 00:34:06.759
<v Speaker 1>world that they're going to step into. Right, if they

704
00:34:06.799 --> 00:34:09.440
<v Speaker 1>are successful adults, it is because they were brought up

705
00:34:09.440 --> 00:34:12.119
<v Speaker 1>the right way and know what they're doing. And that

706
00:34:12.159 --> 00:34:14.079
<v Speaker 1>doesn't necessarily mean they know what they want to be

707
00:34:14.119 --> 00:34:16.119
<v Speaker 1>when they grow up. Right, everybody's trying to still figure

708
00:34:16.159 --> 00:34:19.679
<v Speaker 1>that shit out. But essentially, because I'll be honest with you,

709
00:34:19.719 --> 00:34:22.159
<v Speaker 1>my parents didn't teach me a lot about how taxes work.

710
00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Neither did the school system. Now that I'm an adult

711
00:34:24.880 --> 00:34:27.280
<v Speaker 1>paying taxes and I'm a business owner. Now I'm like, okay,

712
00:34:27.320 --> 00:34:31.000
<v Speaker 1>so I have been getting fucked for three decades and

713
00:34:31.079 --> 00:34:34.239
<v Speaker 1>nobody has given me any inkling into how this works

714
00:34:34.239 --> 00:34:36.360
<v Speaker 1>and why. And I'm not blaming my parents for that

715
00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:39.280
<v Speaker 1>because they were they were there workers, you know. I mean,

716
00:34:39.320 --> 00:34:41.719
<v Speaker 1>they've they've always earned their daily bread, they cash in

717
00:34:41.760 --> 00:34:44.119
<v Speaker 1>their W two's, and they get their taxes taken, and

718
00:34:44.119 --> 00:34:46.400
<v Speaker 1>it is what it is. But there's ways to not

719
00:34:46.519 --> 00:34:49.159
<v Speaker 1>fight the system, but there's ways to work the system

720
00:34:49.280 --> 00:34:51.440
<v Speaker 1>in your favor. And that's how the rich stay rich.

721
00:34:52.599 --> 00:34:55.960
<v Speaker 1>There's so many things that they didn't know to teach.

722
00:34:56.639 --> 00:34:59.159
<v Speaker 1>And as you get kids, and especially with the way

723
00:34:59.199 --> 00:35:00.519
<v Speaker 1>the world is now, you I have to look into

724
00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:02.480
<v Speaker 1>the politics. You have to look at what new policies

725
00:35:02.480 --> 00:35:05.559
<v Speaker 1>are about to be implemented, because in ten years, fifteen years,

726
00:35:05.599 --> 00:35:08.039
<v Speaker 1>twenty years, your kids are going to be entering this workforce,

727
00:35:08.440 --> 00:35:10.039
<v Speaker 1>and I, for one, would like for them to be

728
00:35:10.159 --> 00:35:12.880
<v Speaker 1>as prepared as possible for that world, you know.

729
00:35:13.880 --> 00:35:16.480
<v Speaker 3>I mean it's not even just that though I was

730
00:35:16.480 --> 00:35:19.599
<v Speaker 3>actually having a conversation I've talked about it before on here,

731
00:35:19.599 --> 00:35:22.159
<v Speaker 3>that I have a child with like severe dyslexia and

732
00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:25.800
<v Speaker 3>we're talking about reading, you know, reading is really difficult,

733
00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:28.519
<v Speaker 3>and like the comprehension is not when it's read out

734
00:35:28.559 --> 00:35:31.360
<v Speaker 3>loud and stuff that's kind of Dyslexia works in different

735
00:35:31.400 --> 00:35:33.920
<v Speaker 3>ways for each person. But I was telling her. I

736
00:35:33.960 --> 00:35:36.280
<v Speaker 3>was like, you have to learn to read, because the

737
00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:40.039
<v Speaker 3>most important thing is knowledge, because once you have it,

738
00:35:40.079 --> 00:35:42.280
<v Speaker 3>they can't take it from your brain. And I was like,

739
00:35:42.320 --> 00:35:45.239
<v Speaker 3>and unfortunately, you're coming into you're going to be starting

740
00:35:45.239 --> 00:35:47.840
<v Speaker 3>to shift into the age of AI, where everything on

741
00:35:47.880 --> 00:35:49.679
<v Speaker 3>the internet you might as well just take with a

742
00:35:49.719 --> 00:35:52.559
<v Speaker 3>grain of salt. But because you don't recognize or have

743
00:35:52.639 --> 00:35:55.159
<v Speaker 3>the experience that there was books at one point, like

744
00:35:55.239 --> 00:35:57.320
<v Speaker 3>your library you went to and that's where you did

745
00:35:57.360 --> 00:36:01.679
<v Speaker 3>the research for research papers and different projects as a kid.

746
00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:03.880
<v Speaker 3>You don't do that now. So I was like, when

747
00:36:04.199 --> 00:36:06.480
<v Speaker 3>all is said and done, the old books is where

748
00:36:06.519 --> 00:36:09.239
<v Speaker 3>the knowledge is, and the older the books, the better.

749
00:36:09.239 --> 00:36:11.719
<v Speaker 3>And I was like, you can only do this by reading, though,

750
00:36:12.000 --> 00:36:15.159
<v Speaker 3>And it's just small things that I don't think people

751
00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:17.639
<v Speaker 3>are really thinking about, because like, yeah, AI, we have

752
00:36:17.679 --> 00:36:21.440
<v Speaker 3>all this information. It's whatever it wants to feed us, right,

753
00:36:21.719 --> 00:36:24.559
<v Speaker 3>and it's whoever's behind it is what we're getting. When

754
00:36:24.559 --> 00:36:28.199
<v Speaker 3>we're getting like every book that we have the best

755
00:36:28.199 --> 00:36:29.559
<v Speaker 3>way to get rid of it. Just burn all the

756
00:36:29.559 --> 00:36:32.159
<v Speaker 3>books and start they We already have a book ban

757
00:36:32.599 --> 00:36:35.360
<v Speaker 3>of a lot of different books, and yeah, we have

758
00:36:35.480 --> 00:36:36.519
<v Speaker 3>like I think one hundred and.

759
00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:40.559
<v Speaker 1>Somehow the Communist Manifesto is not on that list, and

760
00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:43.519
<v Speaker 1>that bothers me that books worldwide, there's.

761
00:36:43.320 --> 00:36:45.199
<v Speaker 3>A lot of books that are banned, and then a

762
00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:47.360
<v Speaker 3>lot more books that you're flagged if you try to

763
00:36:47.400 --> 00:36:51.039
<v Speaker 3>even buy. And some of them, yeah, some of them

764
00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:54.199
<v Speaker 3>are not very good type of books, which okay, some

765
00:36:54.239 --> 00:36:56.000
<v Speaker 3>of them you could understand. Yeah, some of them you

766
00:36:56.000 --> 00:36:58.320
<v Speaker 3>can understand. But also that's the thing, though, is that

767
00:36:58.599 --> 00:37:01.679
<v Speaker 3>it's still knowledge and and if they start burning the

768
00:37:01.679 --> 00:37:03.880
<v Speaker 3>books and start really taking away the books, I'm not

769
00:37:03.920 --> 00:37:06.760
<v Speaker 3>saying it's going to happen today, but in fifty years

770
00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:10.199
<v Speaker 3>when they decide to do this or something whatever, knowledge

771
00:37:10.239 --> 00:37:13.440
<v Speaker 3>that you were able to obtain from books, and hopefully

772
00:37:13.480 --> 00:37:15.920
<v Speaker 3>you're able to read older books, because you think about it,

773
00:37:15.960 --> 00:37:18.079
<v Speaker 3>the books have changed history, books have changed over and

774
00:37:18.079 --> 00:37:20.400
<v Speaker 3>over again. That'd been taught in school. I was just

775
00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:22.480
<v Speaker 3>talking to my uncle that was a teacher for almost

776
00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:25.440
<v Speaker 3>fifty years, and he was talking about to my mom

777
00:37:25.480 --> 00:37:28.679
<v Speaker 3>and me about how books, what they used to say,

778
00:37:29.039 --> 00:37:32.000
<v Speaker 3>and what like his mom told him that books said

779
00:37:31.559 --> 00:37:35.519
<v Speaker 3>when she was little, and how he recognized it as

780
00:37:35.559 --> 00:37:37.760
<v Speaker 3>a teacher. Every year they would start to get new books,

781
00:37:38.079 --> 00:37:42.000
<v Speaker 3>and after about five ten years, small things would change,

782
00:37:42.039 --> 00:37:44.480
<v Speaker 3>then more big things would change in the history books.

783
00:37:44.840 --> 00:37:47.920
<v Speaker 3>And he's like, this is this is a problem because

784
00:37:48.480 --> 00:37:50.679
<v Speaker 3>he collected he collects books, so he has a lot

785
00:37:50.679 --> 00:37:53.039
<v Speaker 3>of old books. And he's like, without these books, and

786
00:37:53.079 --> 00:37:54.760
<v Speaker 3>no one's going to actually know the truth or at

787
00:37:54.840 --> 00:37:57.360
<v Speaker 3>least closer to the truth than what it is being

788
00:37:57.400 --> 00:37:58.000
<v Speaker 3>taught today.

789
00:37:58.559 --> 00:38:01.199
<v Speaker 1>So and like you said, happened all at once. They

790
00:38:01.199 --> 00:38:03.960
<v Speaker 1>don't just come out and say all these books are banned.

791
00:38:03.960 --> 00:38:05.920
<v Speaker 1>If you own these books, you're now a fellon. We're

792
00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:07.280
<v Speaker 1>coming into your house to take It's the same with

793
00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:10.159
<v Speaker 1>gun laws, right, It's the same with magazine capacities.

794
00:38:10.280 --> 00:38:10.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

795
00:38:10.519 --> 00:38:10.639
<v Speaker 2>Right.

796
00:38:10.679 --> 00:38:12.920
<v Speaker 1>It never started off with well, why do you need

797
00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:14.920
<v Speaker 1>to have fifty bullets in a magazine?

798
00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:15.119
<v Speaker 2>Right?

799
00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:17.320
<v Speaker 1>It started off with okay, maybe not fifty. Let's let's

800
00:38:17.320 --> 00:38:20.000
<v Speaker 1>cut down to thirty. Let's cut down to ten. How

801
00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:23.400
<v Speaker 1>about five. How about it's only hunting rifles. How about

802
00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:26.320
<v Speaker 1>it's only shotguns. Why do you even need a gun

803
00:38:26.320 --> 00:38:28.400
<v Speaker 1>in your home in the first place. It starts very

804
00:38:28.440 --> 00:38:31.400
<v Speaker 1>small and then it's snowballs. And once they once any

805
00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:35.320
<v Speaker 1>government takes a right, they're never going to give it back.

806
00:38:35.639 --> 00:38:37.760
<v Speaker 1>That's not something that they have ever done throughout the

807
00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:38.599
<v Speaker 1>course of history.

808
00:38:38.920 --> 00:38:42.920
<v Speaker 2>So it's yeah, absolutely, and that's what, that's what, that's

809
00:38:42.920 --> 00:38:45.360
<v Speaker 2>why twenty twenty it was so important that we pushed back.

810
00:38:45.960 --> 00:38:49.519
<v Speaker 2>You know, that was a big eye opener for many people.

811
00:38:49.960 --> 00:38:52.280
<v Speaker 2>And that was probably like that because I was always

812
00:38:52.320 --> 00:38:54.519
<v Speaker 2>a bit of a conspiracy guy, but that was really

813
00:38:54.559 --> 00:38:57.400
<v Speaker 2>what it was. Like, Okay, it was just there in

814
00:38:57.400 --> 00:38:59.519
<v Speaker 2>front of you. There was no denying it. There will

815
00:38:59.559 --> 00:39:01.039
<v Speaker 2>still be with that. You know.

816
00:39:01.199 --> 00:39:02.760
<v Speaker 1>That was the week up call for a lot of

817
00:39:02.760 --> 00:39:03.679
<v Speaker 1>people around the world.

818
00:39:03.679 --> 00:39:06.280
<v Speaker 3>Real how did twenty twenty go for you? Guys? Like

819
00:39:06.360 --> 00:39:08.800
<v Speaker 3>from first hand experience, how was it for you?

820
00:39:08.960 --> 00:39:12.760
<v Speaker 2>It was? It was just wild and quick. You know,

821
00:39:12.840 --> 00:39:15.760
<v Speaker 2>it was just like from from one day everything is normal,

822
00:39:16.239 --> 00:39:18.519
<v Speaker 2>next week you hear about this. There was little root

823
00:39:18.639 --> 00:39:23.880
<v Speaker 2>rumblings of of the what happened happening and we were like, yeah,

824
00:39:23.920 --> 00:39:25.920
<v Speaker 2>it's probably nothing, it will blow out. And then obviously

825
00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:28.639
<v Speaker 2>the next week we're locked down, and you know, you

826
00:39:28.719 --> 00:39:30.800
<v Speaker 2>can't go to work, you know, And I think for

827
00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:33.760
<v Speaker 2>the first six weeks of it, I was like fully in.

828
00:39:33.840 --> 00:39:35.440
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, we are screwed, you know.

829
00:39:35.599 --> 00:39:35.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

830
00:39:35.800 --> 00:39:37.559
<v Speaker 2>I remember going sitting in my bar from one because

831
00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:39.679
<v Speaker 2>obviously being the dad, I was trying to be like

832
00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:42.119
<v Speaker 2>the strong one, like this is okay, we're off, We're okay,

833
00:39:42.159 --> 00:39:44.360
<v Speaker 2>we're all good. Yeah, we're all healthy, which you know

834
00:39:44.440 --> 00:39:46.480
<v Speaker 2>we was, but there was I was terrified.

835
00:39:46.519 --> 00:39:46.639
<v Speaker 3>Man.

836
00:39:46.639 --> 00:39:48.360
<v Speaker 2>I remember going to my bar from my NaN's being

837
00:39:48.400 --> 00:39:51.079
<v Speaker 2>like just sitting there on my own, think we're screwed.

838
00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:55.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm really thinking that I had a friend that that

839
00:39:55.239 --> 00:39:57.639
<v Speaker 2>passed away that they said through the.

840
00:39:59.719 --> 00:40:02.079
<v Speaker 1>Name, we can say the name here, brother, we are

841
00:40:02.119 --> 00:40:03.519
<v Speaker 1>a free speech podcast.

842
00:40:05.159 --> 00:40:06.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't think we can say I don't think

843
00:40:06.760 --> 00:40:08.719
<v Speaker 3>we can say it. Though for his side of.

844
00:40:08.719 --> 00:40:11.400
<v Speaker 2>This, I know you can say it as long as

845
00:40:11.400 --> 00:40:15.320
<v Speaker 2>you guys are happy. But like the friend that I

846
00:40:15.400 --> 00:40:17.400
<v Speaker 2>knew that passed away very early on, he was ill

847
00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:19.320
<v Speaker 2>with something else, you know, like like a lot of

848
00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:22.199
<v Speaker 2>it and something kilse. He might have had that any system,

849
00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:24.480
<v Speaker 2>but ultimately that didn't kill him.

850
00:40:25.159 --> 00:40:26.960
<v Speaker 1>For most people, did they force you all to get

851
00:40:27.000 --> 00:40:30.039
<v Speaker 1>vaccines like by law or was it all mandates and suggestions.

852
00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:33.239
<v Speaker 2>They really tried. They made it very difficult. I don't

853
00:40:33.280 --> 00:40:34.519
<v Speaker 2>know many people that didn't get it.

854
00:40:34.760 --> 00:40:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Damn.

855
00:40:35.079 --> 00:40:38.639
<v Speaker 2>I'm happy happy to say that I didn't. My wife didn't. Good.

856
00:40:39.000 --> 00:40:41.960
<v Speaker 2>Good we we we. We was getting to a point

857
00:40:42.000 --> 00:40:44.320
<v Speaker 2>where I was like, I was saying, they're going to

858
00:40:44.360 --> 00:40:46.320
<v Speaker 2>make us do this, like they are going to make

859
00:40:46.400 --> 00:40:49.480
<v Speaker 2>us do this, and we both just stood strong, like

860
00:40:49.480 --> 00:40:52.079
<v Speaker 2>our family were like, what you're doing, You're crazy. We're

861
00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:53.599
<v Speaker 2>going to go. We're going to go together, which is

862
00:40:53.639 --> 00:41:00.199
<v Speaker 2>a crazy thing. No, yeah, absolutely, And you know, and

863
00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:02.760
<v Speaker 2>that wasn't a whole family saying that. There was just

864
00:41:02.800 --> 00:41:06.480
<v Speaker 2>like people saying stuff like that. But you know, me

865
00:41:06.519 --> 00:41:08.039
<v Speaker 2>and the wife were like, no, we're not doing this.

866
00:41:08.119 --> 00:41:10.159
<v Speaker 2>And I know a lot of people that didn't do it, Yeah,

867
00:41:10.159 --> 00:41:13.800
<v Speaker 2>but I know most people did. Most people now regret it.

868
00:41:13.960 --> 00:41:16.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah. And in the US, I think it's eighty

869
00:41:16.960 --> 00:41:20.880
<v Speaker 1>six percent of Americans got the first STAB and then

870
00:41:21.159 --> 00:41:24.519
<v Speaker 1>over sixty percent got at least the second, if not

871
00:41:24.599 --> 00:41:27.320
<v Speaker 1>multiple boosters and shit. And it's like and for some

872
00:41:27.400 --> 00:41:30.239
<v Speaker 1>of them, I could understand. I still disagree with people

873
00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:32.519
<v Speaker 1>getting the vaccine, especially when it was untested, right, but

874
00:41:33.119 --> 00:41:36.599
<v Speaker 1>if they truly believed that they might bring this to

875
00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:40.320
<v Speaker 1>an elderly family member, and they were genuinely trying to

876
00:41:40.360 --> 00:41:42.559
<v Speaker 1>do what they felt was best. Maybe they got bad information,

877
00:41:42.599 --> 00:41:44.719
<v Speaker 1>but at least I could put a level of respect there.

878
00:41:44.880 --> 00:41:48.880
<v Speaker 1>Or the mother that just wants to keep her family

879
00:41:48.960 --> 00:41:51.159
<v Speaker 1>healthy and she's going off with the best information she

880
00:41:51.239 --> 00:41:53.199
<v Speaker 1>has at that time, I can at least understand it,

881
00:41:53.239 --> 00:41:55.880
<v Speaker 1>and my heart breaks with these people. But what kills

882
00:41:55.920 --> 00:41:59.519
<v Speaker 1>me is so many companies basically said that if you

883
00:41:59.559 --> 00:42:02.199
<v Speaker 1>don't get the vaccine, you're not allowed to come back

884
00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:03.880
<v Speaker 1>to work. You're not allowed to do this. And then

885
00:42:03.920 --> 00:42:07.960
<v Speaker 1>in certain industries where I was working, in the industry

886
00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:10.039
<v Speaker 1>I was working in, like they could have tried that

887
00:42:10.039 --> 00:42:12.639
<v Speaker 1>that would not have gone well for them whatsoever. But

888
00:42:12.840 --> 00:42:17.480
<v Speaker 1>in other places, especially cramp office settings. Yeah, yeah, different

889
00:42:17.480 --> 00:42:18.440
<v Speaker 1>states for sure.

890
00:42:18.599 --> 00:42:21.719
<v Speaker 3>Different Each state had their own issues with that. So

891
00:42:22.840 --> 00:42:25.000
<v Speaker 3>we live in the South, but my mom and my

892
00:42:25.079 --> 00:42:27.360
<v Speaker 3>family live in the West Coast, which is more liberal,

893
00:42:27.880 --> 00:42:31.199
<v Speaker 3>and I was more concerned with what's happening there. Which

894
00:42:31.719 --> 00:42:36.079
<v Speaker 3>I actually traveled to Oregon during COVID and I actually

895
00:42:36.159 --> 00:42:39.119
<v Speaker 3>traveled like during twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two, I

896
00:42:39.199 --> 00:42:43.039
<v Speaker 3>went there and I saw the vast difference compared to here.

897
00:42:43.559 --> 00:42:45.559
<v Speaker 3>They wouldn't let you in unless you had a vaccine

898
00:42:45.599 --> 00:42:48.599
<v Speaker 3>card in a lot of places in Portland and they

899
00:42:48.599 --> 00:42:51.519
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't Like it wasn't all the places, but there was

900
00:42:51.559 --> 00:42:55.360
<v Speaker 3>a lot even it. Honestly, I would say three years afterwards,

901
00:42:55.400 --> 00:42:57.960
<v Speaker 3>people were still having issues. I mean people still wear

902
00:42:58.079 --> 00:43:02.000
<v Speaker 3>masks and stuff, and people thought my mom and was

903
00:43:02.079 --> 00:43:04.679
<v Speaker 3>absolutely insane because I was like, do not get this.

904
00:43:05.039 --> 00:43:07.280
<v Speaker 3>I don't care what you do. I know you're gonna

905
00:43:07.599 --> 00:43:10.199
<v Speaker 3>hear it from all sides. I was like, I trust

906
00:43:10.280 --> 00:43:12.960
<v Speaker 3>trust me for once. I'm telling you don't do this.

907
00:43:13.679 --> 00:43:16.840
<v Speaker 3>And she held her ground, and it was literally them,

908
00:43:17.000 --> 00:43:19.760
<v Speaker 3>her and her husband versus like pretty much everybody. Like

909
00:43:19.800 --> 00:43:21.840
<v Speaker 3>they weren't allowed to go to parties, they weren't allowed

910
00:43:21.840 --> 00:43:23.639
<v Speaker 3>to go to work, they weren't allowed to go anywhere

911
00:43:23.679 --> 00:43:26.079
<v Speaker 3>and do anything. And I was like, it's fine, just

912
00:43:26.119 --> 00:43:28.840
<v Speaker 3>come down here. And I mean we're still were in lockdown.

913
00:43:28.880 --> 00:43:31.199
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, I let's say it depends because New Orleans.

914
00:43:31.400 --> 00:43:32.960
<v Speaker 3>The first New Orleans was bad.

915
00:43:33.199 --> 00:43:35.760
<v Speaker 1>The first event that I ever actually put on armor

916
00:43:35.840 --> 00:43:38.559
<v Speaker 1>and did a fight. It wasn't a cage fight, but

917
00:43:38.599 --> 00:43:41.280
<v Speaker 1>it was a two on two armored fight, right, So

918
00:43:41.320 --> 00:43:43.760
<v Speaker 1>I do booheart fighting or I haven't been a while,

919
00:43:43.840 --> 00:43:45.119
<v Speaker 1>but I do love it. I want to get back

920
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:47.440
<v Speaker 1>into it. But the first event I ever fought at

921
00:43:47.559 --> 00:43:50.559
<v Speaker 1>was at a little venue in New Orleans, and we

922
00:43:50.599 --> 00:43:52.480
<v Speaker 1>had fighters from all over the country come in. I

923
00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:54.239
<v Speaker 1>think we actually had one from the UK comeing. As

924
00:43:54.280 --> 00:43:57.679
<v Speaker 1>a matter of fact, the UK has a solid fucking

925
00:43:57.760 --> 00:44:01.400
<v Speaker 1>night fighting team. They are insane. But anyway, which I

926
00:44:01.440 --> 00:44:03.639
<v Speaker 1>mean to be fair, it's a part of y'all's history.

927
00:44:03.679 --> 00:44:05.760
<v Speaker 1>Not are so like it would stand to reason, you know,

928
00:44:05.840 --> 00:44:09.960
<v Speaker 1>but anyway, and they tried making us get VAX cards

929
00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:13.400
<v Speaker 1>to go to this venue, and I'm like, brother, we're

930
00:44:13.440 --> 00:44:16.960
<v Speaker 1>wearing eighty pounds of steel and we are wearing masks,

931
00:44:17.079 --> 00:44:19.199
<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna be fighting each other. Like if you're

932
00:44:19.199 --> 00:44:22.519
<v Speaker 1>worried about if COVID is safe or whatever, this is

933
00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:24.679
<v Speaker 1>not This is not the spot, This is not the

934
00:44:24.719 --> 00:44:27.480
<v Speaker 1>event to do this at. And thankfully they capitulated and

935
00:44:27.559 --> 00:44:31.000
<v Speaker 1>realized that since everything was closed down, this was going

936
00:44:31.079 --> 00:44:32.559
<v Speaker 1>to be one of the only opportunities they had to

937
00:44:32.559 --> 00:44:34.440
<v Speaker 1>make some decent money for the next few months, so

938
00:44:34.440 --> 00:44:36.599
<v Speaker 1>they allowed it. And it's like, yeah, the almighty dollar

939
00:44:36.639 --> 00:44:38.599
<v Speaker 1>will outweigh your bullshit mask, bro.

940
00:44:38.719 --> 00:44:43.199
<v Speaker 3>But anyway, I thankfully some knew, some people had some

941
00:44:43.280 --> 00:44:47.480
<v Speaker 3>polls acquired some things. I'll just say it like that sudden.

942
00:44:48.000 --> 00:44:50.280
<v Speaker 3>I was like, no, like you're we're not doing this.

943
00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:55.360
<v Speaker 3>But what's interesting is that there's a lot of rumbling

944
00:44:55.440 --> 00:44:58.599
<v Speaker 3>right now that disease X is going to be the

945
00:44:58.639 --> 00:45:00.800
<v Speaker 3>new pandemic this year and.

946
00:45:02.239 --> 00:45:02.920
<v Speaker 1>Some new one.

947
00:45:03.119 --> 00:45:06.119
<v Speaker 3>So it's been around for a while though, and there's

948
00:45:06.239 --> 00:45:09.519
<v Speaker 3>obviously measles is. You know, we had two thousand under

949
00:45:09.519 --> 00:45:13.239
<v Speaker 3>two thousand cases last year, but apparently they're talking about

950
00:45:13.320 --> 00:45:16.039
<v Speaker 3>maybe making that an outbreak pandemic situation.

951
00:45:16.239 --> 00:45:18.880
<v Speaker 1>Have you heard about this? Apparently America is about to

952
00:45:18.880 --> 00:45:22.480
<v Speaker 1>lose its measles free classification. And it's like this would

953
00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:26.000
<v Speaker 1>be because of the illegals that are coming across the border.

954
00:45:26.280 --> 00:45:28.039
<v Speaker 1>That's the polls that you're taking right now.

955
00:45:28.079 --> 00:45:32.119
<v Speaker 3>It's not any okay. So disease is referred to as

956
00:45:32.159 --> 00:45:36.719
<v Speaker 3>a hypothetical unknown pathogen that could cause future pandemic. So

957
00:45:36.920 --> 00:45:41.480
<v Speaker 3>there's like fifty seven minutes ago somebody actually they posted

958
00:45:41.519 --> 00:45:43.480
<v Speaker 3>on the people dot com a woman with a rare

959
00:45:43.760 --> 00:45:49.800
<v Speaker 3>metabolic disorder actually has supposedly tested for it. It's being tested.

960
00:45:49.840 --> 00:45:52.840
<v Speaker 3>It's being stated as warning as the four deadly viruses

961
00:45:52.880 --> 00:45:55.920
<v Speaker 3>that could spark a deadly pandemic this year.

962
00:45:56.119 --> 00:45:57.599
<v Speaker 1>It's a scary unknown, y'all.

963
00:45:57.760 --> 00:46:05.400
<v Speaker 3>And like there's a there's a law. Yeah, so it's infectious.

964
00:46:05.519 --> 00:46:09.199
<v Speaker 3>So it's a the impox rebella bird flu and or

965
00:46:09.519 --> 00:46:14.119
<v Speaker 3>poachy I guess have the potential to evolve into disease X,

966
00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:18.400
<v Speaker 3>an unknown pathogen that could cause the next global crisis.

967
00:46:18.559 --> 00:46:20.039
<v Speaker 1>Bird flu is back on the menu.

968
00:46:20.280 --> 00:46:23.960
<v Speaker 3>So bird flu hasn't left. So bird flu is actually well,

969
00:46:24.000 --> 00:46:25.760
<v Speaker 3>bird flu has been around for a long time. But

970
00:46:25.840 --> 00:46:28.199
<v Speaker 3>see last year was the first year that we had

971
00:46:28.239 --> 00:46:32.400
<v Speaker 3>a crossover. Actually Louisiana, we had a man die I remember,

972
00:46:32.519 --> 00:46:37.119
<v Speaker 3>And so there is it's jumped. Now it's switching more

973
00:46:37.159 --> 00:46:40.000
<v Speaker 3>towards people. And so there was the bird flu that

974
00:46:40.039 --> 00:46:42.519
<v Speaker 3>when they had they've had it twice now in the

975
00:46:42.559 --> 00:46:45.159
<v Speaker 3>last like five years, I think, where it's killed a

976
00:46:45.199 --> 00:46:48.239
<v Speaker 3>ton of chickens and all sorts of stuff. Well, now

977
00:46:48.280 --> 00:46:50.480
<v Speaker 3>it's crossed over into humans. It's mutating.

978
00:46:51.000 --> 00:46:53.679
<v Speaker 1>And so do we know if that guy that died

979
00:46:53.960 --> 00:46:57.199
<v Speaker 1>was or was not a chicken fucker? Do we know

980
00:46:57.280 --> 00:46:57.920
<v Speaker 1>this information?

981
00:46:58.760 --> 00:47:00.679
<v Speaker 3>I have no idea. I love how the thumbs up

982
00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:02.000
<v Speaker 3>on it too, Like every.

983
00:47:01.800 --> 00:47:03.559
<v Speaker 1>Time you do something with your hand, because I'm using

984
00:47:03.599 --> 00:47:04.960
<v Speaker 1>my phone is the camera, so it does that.

985
00:47:05.079 --> 00:47:07.519
<v Speaker 3>It's like thumbs up, get the balloons to come up.

986
00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:10.079
<v Speaker 1>If we do this, damn it, sometimes the balloons go

987
00:47:10.079 --> 00:47:10.760
<v Speaker 1>on screen anyway.

988
00:47:10.800 --> 00:47:17.079
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, so disease X is potentially this hypothetical pathogen

989
00:47:17.199 --> 00:47:19.199
<v Speaker 3>that either is going to be one of those four

990
00:47:19.760 --> 00:47:24.360
<v Speaker 3>or an evolution of them somehow mixed together combined fun

991
00:47:24.480 --> 00:47:27.719
<v Speaker 3>And they've already been talking about this, so since we

992
00:47:27.760 --> 00:47:30.039
<v Speaker 3>did the we talked about it a year or two ago.

993
00:47:30.079 --> 00:47:32.199
<v Speaker 3>We've talked about it originally, it's been like in the

994
00:47:32.239 --> 00:47:36.599
<v Speaker 3>works for two years. It's been quietly gaining momentum of

995
00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:39.920
<v Speaker 3>what they might do. And of course who has had

996
00:47:40.039 --> 00:47:43.760
<v Speaker 3>multiple models of how this pandemic is going to play out,

997
00:47:43.840 --> 00:47:47.639
<v Speaker 3>because this time it's going to be a lot more deadly. Sure,

998
00:47:47.760 --> 00:47:49.920
<v Speaker 3>so it's going to be like in an Ebola situation.

999
00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:52.239
<v Speaker 3>But they can't go Ebola style because see, if there

1000
00:47:52.280 --> 00:47:54.480
<v Speaker 3>was an outbreak of Ebola, it kills ninety percent of

1001
00:47:54.519 --> 00:47:57.960
<v Speaker 3>the people that get infected, so it kills too fast.

1002
00:47:58.079 --> 00:48:00.800
<v Speaker 1>But they found a cure for that's oroping in water,

1003
00:48:01.159 --> 00:48:03.599
<v Speaker 1>your's ebola. It's the craziest thing.

1004
00:48:04.159 --> 00:48:06.679
<v Speaker 3>It kills too quickly. Yeah, and so you have to

1005
00:48:06.760 --> 00:48:09.039
<v Speaker 3>have so if you look at any kind of models

1006
00:48:09.039 --> 00:48:12.400
<v Speaker 3>when it comes to viruses and what you want as

1007
00:48:12.559 --> 00:48:15.280
<v Speaker 3>a pandemic, you want it to at least try to

1008
00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:19.159
<v Speaker 3>kill anywhere between forty to fifty five percent of the population.

1009
00:48:19.559 --> 00:48:22.239
<v Speaker 3>That way, you're lowering the population, but you're also not

1010
00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:24.679
<v Speaker 3>going to take out too many people.

1011
00:48:24.800 --> 00:48:26.880
<v Speaker 1>Fuck, Spanish flu didn't even go that hard. I think

1012
00:48:26.920 --> 00:48:28.440
<v Speaker 1>it only killed every like one in five.

1013
00:48:28.639 --> 00:48:30.719
<v Speaker 3>Well, so black plague is still around, by the way.

1014
00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:33.760
<v Speaker 3>Sure people people feel like that this just went away.

1015
00:48:33.840 --> 00:48:35.719
<v Speaker 3>It has never gone away. Every year we have at

1016
00:48:35.760 --> 00:48:40.480
<v Speaker 3>least five hundred worldwide cases of the black plague. And yeah,

1017
00:48:40.519 --> 00:48:44.119
<v Speaker 3>so Mexico there's a prison down there that is just

1018
00:48:44.719 --> 00:48:45.480
<v Speaker 3>those poor people.

1019
00:48:45.519 --> 00:48:48.199
<v Speaker 1>Honestly, there's every Mexican prism looks like it's actual.

1020
00:48:48.320 --> 00:48:50.760
<v Speaker 3>Fuck's that big ass one where families live in and

1021
00:48:50.760 --> 00:48:53.360
<v Speaker 3>it has like entire villages pretty much inside of it,

1022
00:48:53.400 --> 00:48:57.360
<v Speaker 3>and it's They have had the black plague multiple times

1023
00:48:57.440 --> 00:49:00.800
<v Speaker 3>this last decade, and they've had like outbreaks of it

1024
00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:02.760
<v Speaker 3>where they just contain it and they don't really talk

1025
00:49:02.800 --> 00:49:06.239
<v Speaker 3>about it, but I've found I've found some articles on it.

1026
00:49:06.679 --> 00:49:10.760
<v Speaker 3>We've actually had cases in the US every year for decades,

1027
00:49:10.960 --> 00:49:13.639
<v Speaker 3>we have at least some cases of the Black plague.

1028
00:49:14.679 --> 00:49:15.719
<v Speaker 3>It's not gone away.

1029
00:49:15.880 --> 00:49:17.039
<v Speaker 2>It's not gone away.

1030
00:49:17.360 --> 00:49:20.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so it's it's still around. But the thing is

1031
00:49:20.119 --> 00:49:24.000
<v Speaker 3>is what this disease X is. This would be this year,

1032
00:49:24.159 --> 00:49:26.079
<v Speaker 3>next year is going to be the big push probably

1033
00:49:26.079 --> 00:49:29.519
<v Speaker 3>for another pandemic. Like they gave us enough time, they've

1034
00:49:29.679 --> 00:49:33.119
<v Speaker 3>you know, been able to fix the models, fix how

1035
00:49:33.159 --> 00:49:35.440
<v Speaker 3>they're going to handle people, you know, with the what

1036
00:49:35.519 --> 00:49:41.039
<v Speaker 3>are those the systems that with that uses vibrations and

1037
00:49:41.079 --> 00:49:43.679
<v Speaker 3>all of that to disperse the crowds. I can't think

1038
00:49:43.719 --> 00:49:43.840
<v Speaker 3>of that.

1039
00:49:43.960 --> 00:49:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh the sound wave energy, Yeah, what they claim they

1040
00:49:46.960 --> 00:49:49.639
<v Speaker 1>use against the Venezuelan army when the when the delta

1041
00:49:49.679 --> 00:49:50.880
<v Speaker 1>came in, which bullshit.

1042
00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:54.280
<v Speaker 3>But they've found more ways that they're willing to tell

1043
00:49:54.360 --> 00:49:58.119
<v Speaker 3>us of how to control crowds, populations, all this stuff

1044
00:49:58.400 --> 00:50:00.920
<v Speaker 3>and they learned, so they took every that they learned

1045
00:50:01.039 --> 00:50:07.559
<v Speaker 3>from COVID and they've made all sorts of new ways

1046
00:50:07.639 --> 00:50:10.320
<v Speaker 3>of handling pandemics. You can actually read all about it

1047
00:50:10.320 --> 00:50:13.239
<v Speaker 3>because there's lots of different decrees that they've made of

1048
00:50:13.239 --> 00:50:16.079
<v Speaker 3>how they would handle a new pandemic, because they would

1049
00:50:16.079 --> 00:50:18.960
<v Speaker 3>force martial law pretty much in every place that they could.

1050
00:50:19.039 --> 00:50:21.840
<v Speaker 3>They would lock people in and it's it's a whole

1051
00:50:21.880 --> 00:50:22.880
<v Speaker 3>thing they would make.

1052
00:50:23.159 --> 00:50:25.920
<v Speaker 1>That would go well for the south of the United States.

1053
00:50:25.960 --> 00:50:28.480
<v Speaker 3>Oh no, but like over in the UK, they want

1054
00:50:28.519 --> 00:50:31.159
<v Speaker 3>to do fifteen minute cities, Like they're pushing you guys

1055
00:50:31.199 --> 00:50:33.719
<v Speaker 3>faster than they want us actually, and we're supposed to

1056
00:50:33.760 --> 00:50:37.840
<v Speaker 3>have one potentially this year be built. So I think

1057
00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:41.519
<v Speaker 3>you guys are more likely to have a pandemic situation

1058
00:50:41.679 --> 00:50:43.920
<v Speaker 3>than anybody. If I was going to wager, I think,

1059
00:50:44.079 --> 00:50:45.880
<v Speaker 3>especially the moment, especially.

1060
00:50:45.559 --> 00:50:47.880
<v Speaker 2>With the current government, that they'd be happy to lock

1061
00:50:47.960 --> 00:50:48.639
<v Speaker 2>us down a meeting.

1062
00:50:48.760 --> 00:50:50.840
<v Speaker 3>I could see how they locked it grise in completely,

1063
00:50:50.960 --> 00:50:53.719
<v Speaker 3>Like the entirety of the UK just gets locked in.

1064
00:50:54.079 --> 00:50:59.559
<v Speaker 2>And we're going to need a revolution. I would like

1065
00:50:59.639 --> 00:51:02.840
<v Speaker 2>to think now that enough people have learned from the

1066
00:51:02.920 --> 00:51:07.039
<v Speaker 2>last one that we can't just accept these rules immediately

1067
00:51:07.079 --> 00:51:09.559
<v Speaker 2>and take what they're saying is proved, because we know

1068
00:51:09.639 --> 00:51:12.000
<v Speaker 2>that what they said last time wasn't right. You know,

1069
00:51:12.079 --> 00:51:16.039
<v Speaker 2>they've got so much wrong. But you do see a

1070
00:51:16.039 --> 00:51:18.880
<v Speaker 2>lot of people still to this day wearing masks when

1071
00:51:18.880 --> 00:51:21.400
<v Speaker 2>you do your shopping. You still see it very that's

1072
00:51:21.480 --> 00:51:26.719
<v Speaker 2>hilarious driving on their own, people driving in the car

1073
00:51:27.400 --> 00:51:30.400
<v Speaker 2>on their own wearing a mask here.

1074
00:51:30.519 --> 00:51:32.840
<v Speaker 1>But it's very very small numbers that they are doing

1075
00:51:32.840 --> 00:51:33.239
<v Speaker 1>it here.

1076
00:51:33.440 --> 00:51:35.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's it's it's not too many people, thankfully,

1077
00:51:35.960 --> 00:51:37.960
<v Speaker 2>but you do see it. And it's like, so.

1078
00:51:37.920 --> 00:51:40.239
<v Speaker 3>They're going to have to have something that's killing people

1079
00:51:40.719 --> 00:51:44.000
<v Speaker 3>faster to put the fear. They're going to have to

1080
00:51:44.039 --> 00:51:47.679
<v Speaker 3>have something to where it's visible, so like if you're

1081
00:51:47.679 --> 00:51:50.960
<v Speaker 3>oozing from sores on your face something like that. They're

1082
00:51:51.000 --> 00:51:54.280
<v Speaker 3>going to have to trigger the fear so prevalent so

1083
00:51:54.440 --> 00:51:57.840
<v Speaker 3>hard in people that they will comply, period with anything

1084
00:51:57.880 --> 00:52:00.719
<v Speaker 3>that you say. And it's not like they don't have this.

1085
00:52:01.280 --> 00:52:06.480
<v Speaker 3>They have been developing all sorts of horrible diseases for decades.

1086
00:52:06.559 --> 00:52:08.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, hell the fuck they were developing COVID since

1087
00:52:08.760 --> 00:52:11.119
<v Speaker 1>what was like twenty eleven, when that when the Wuhan

1088
00:52:11.199 --> 00:52:12.360
<v Speaker 1>last started their shit.

1089
00:52:12.920 --> 00:52:16.519
<v Speaker 3>Well Stars Stars originally Stars Ye Stars is from two

1090
00:52:16.519 --> 00:52:19.960
<v Speaker 3>thousand and six, and which is so bad, Yeah, Stars

1091
00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:23.480
<v Speaker 3>Stars was too deadly, So Stars they learned that like

1092
00:52:23.519 --> 00:52:26.519
<v Speaker 3>that was too deadly. It would cause double pneumonia, people

1093
00:52:26.559 --> 00:52:29.519
<v Speaker 3>would die too quickly, and then COVID got derived from it,

1094
00:52:29.880 --> 00:52:32.800
<v Speaker 3>and it's like, okay, So they have all these facilities

1095
00:52:32.840 --> 00:52:35.400
<v Speaker 3>that are testing all of these deadly viruses and all

1096
00:52:35.400 --> 00:52:39.199
<v Speaker 3>this stuff that they're creating, and it's like, why would

1097
00:52:39.239 --> 00:52:43.400
<v Speaker 3>you continue to create these biological weapons that you know,

1098
00:52:43.599 --> 00:52:46.039
<v Speaker 3>once they get out, are going to spread and kill

1099
00:52:46.280 --> 00:52:49.559
<v Speaker 3>so many people. It's just a matter of time though,

1100
00:52:49.559 --> 00:52:52.280
<v Speaker 3>And I'm wondering if it's one of those situations where

1101
00:52:52.400 --> 00:52:56.400
<v Speaker 3>it's localized ii e. Meaning somewhere that that can be

1102
00:52:56.440 --> 00:52:59.679
<v Speaker 3>blockaded off, like if they did it to Australia, right,

1103
00:52:59.800 --> 00:53:02.280
<v Speaker 3>and they could just boop make an entire thing around

1104
00:53:02.280 --> 00:53:04.199
<v Speaker 3>it and be like pretty much anybody that's in there

1105
00:53:04.280 --> 00:53:06.119
<v Speaker 3>is going to stay in there and good luck kind

1106
00:53:06.159 --> 00:53:08.679
<v Speaker 3>of or the UK or the UK makes a lot

1107
00:53:08.719 --> 00:53:11.239
<v Speaker 3>more sense to me than anywhere because you know, you

1108
00:53:11.239 --> 00:53:14.159
<v Speaker 3>guys have a lot of rumblings happening and lots of

1109
00:53:14.199 --> 00:53:15.719
<v Speaker 3>different movement going on.

1110
00:53:15.920 --> 00:53:18.760
<v Speaker 1>It's also a very congested country, like as a whole,

1111
00:53:18.840 --> 00:53:21.559
<v Speaker 1>seventy four million people living there on an island the

1112
00:53:21.599 --> 00:53:23.559
<v Speaker 1>size of New Jersey, like.

1113
00:53:23.519 --> 00:53:27.480
<v Speaker 2>It's it's London, man.

1114
00:53:27.840 --> 00:53:29.079
<v Speaker 3>I did not realize that small.

1115
00:53:29.360 --> 00:53:31.079
<v Speaker 2>I think you can. I think you can fit it

1116
00:53:31.239 --> 00:53:33.920
<v Speaker 2>for UK's into Texas.

1117
00:53:35.840 --> 00:53:37.599
<v Speaker 3>Texas takes forever to drive across.

1118
00:53:37.679 --> 00:53:40.679
<v Speaker 1>I mean keep in mind Greenland. Greenland is a massive

1119
00:53:40.719 --> 00:53:43.880
<v Speaker 1>island and it's three Texas is So, like, how long

1120
00:53:43.920 --> 00:53:45.599
<v Speaker 1>does it take to drive from the if you had

1121
00:53:45.599 --> 00:53:49.199
<v Speaker 1>to guess the southernmost tip of of England in like

1122
00:53:49.280 --> 00:53:52.039
<v Speaker 1>Wales to the northernmost tip of Scotland.

1123
00:53:53.920 --> 00:53:56.159
<v Speaker 2>Right, So I'm on the south coast, so I'm right

1124
00:53:56.239 --> 00:53:58.559
<v Speaker 2>on the on on the on the in the south.

1125
00:53:59.320 --> 00:54:02.639
<v Speaker 2>It would take me to get to Edinburgh, which is

1126
00:54:02.679 --> 00:54:05.199
<v Speaker 2>not the end of Scotland. It's like more the start

1127
00:54:05.239 --> 00:54:08.360
<v Speaker 2>of Scotland. Really, I think that's twelve hours.

1128
00:54:08.239 --> 00:54:11.239
<v Speaker 1>Okay, But what's what's the speed you're driving?

1129
00:54:11.440 --> 00:54:14.119
<v Speaker 2>Like typically it's like seventy miles an hour, like okay,

1130
00:54:14.159 --> 00:54:19.440
<v Speaker 2>on the on the motorway, I think, I think that's right, okay,

1131
00:54:19.679 --> 00:54:22.119
<v Speaker 2>and then and then obviously to the end of Scotland.

1132
00:54:22.360 --> 00:54:25.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm guessing another couple of hours, and so I'm not

1133
00:54:25.159 --> 00:54:25.559
<v Speaker 2>quite sure.

1134
00:54:27.639 --> 00:54:30.440
<v Speaker 3>One day, right, Actually, this is great. I just need

1135
00:54:30.480 --> 00:54:32.199
<v Speaker 3>to come over there and just do a lot thing.

1136
00:54:32.599 --> 00:54:34.400
<v Speaker 2>This is what I find so weird because in the

1137
00:54:34.480 --> 00:54:35.880
<v Speaker 2>US I talk to a lot of people in the

1138
00:54:35.960 --> 00:54:39.239
<v Speaker 2>US and you guys will work two hours away from

1139
00:54:39.239 --> 00:54:42.719
<v Speaker 2>your house. Yeah, and that is totally normal. Yeah, that's

1140
00:54:42.760 --> 00:54:43.440
<v Speaker 2>actually normal.

1141
00:54:43.519 --> 00:54:45.920
<v Speaker 3>I drive upwards to three hours a day every single day.

1142
00:54:46.320 --> 00:54:46.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh.

1143
00:54:46.519 --> 00:54:48.920
<v Speaker 1>I know dudes that drive from another state. I know

1144
00:54:49.039 --> 00:54:51.960
<v Speaker 1>dudes that every day drive to and from Mississippi to

1145
00:54:52.199 --> 00:54:54.400
<v Speaker 1>our area of Louisiana for work every day. And we're

1146
00:54:54.400 --> 00:54:56.199
<v Speaker 1>talking at least a two and a half hour commute

1147
00:54:56.360 --> 00:54:56.920
<v Speaker 1>one way.

1148
00:54:57.559 --> 00:54:59.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. See, I used when I lived in Essex and

1149
00:54:59.679 --> 00:55:02.000
<v Speaker 2>I worked in London. It would take me hour and

1150
00:55:02.039 --> 00:55:05.239
<v Speaker 2>a half each way. Soe I was traveling.

1151
00:55:04.920 --> 00:55:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Over all each and that's crazy for y'all.

1152
00:55:06.920 --> 00:55:09.360
<v Speaker 2>I was insane. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because in the UK

1153
00:55:09.480 --> 00:55:11.079
<v Speaker 2>people don't like doing fifteen minutes.

1154
00:55:11.480 --> 00:55:13.480
<v Speaker 1>Well, to be fair, it depends on where you're at, right,

1155
00:55:13.519 --> 00:55:16.559
<v Speaker 1>if you're anywhere near a big city, yo, that fifteen minutes,

1156
00:55:16.599 --> 00:55:19.760
<v Speaker 1>you might go one mile like it real shits, So

1157
00:55:19.840 --> 00:55:23.559
<v Speaker 1>I mean countryside at least a little more open. But yeah,

1158
00:55:23.599 --> 00:55:26.719
<v Speaker 1>like Raven was saying, I could absolutely see a future

1159
00:55:26.719 --> 00:55:30.159
<v Speaker 1>scenario in which they implement some new mandates because of

1160
00:55:30.199 --> 00:55:34.239
<v Speaker 1>some new UH disease X, which again it's gonna be

1161
00:55:34.280 --> 00:55:36.840
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be some unknown thing. We don't know how

1162
00:55:36.840 --> 00:55:38.840
<v Speaker 1>to stop it. We don't even know how it's spreading.

1163
00:55:38.840 --> 00:55:40.760
<v Speaker 1>But we need everybody to get locked down now. But

1164
00:55:40.840 --> 00:55:44.760
<v Speaker 1>because so many people have woken up right, and we've

1165
00:55:44.760 --> 00:55:48.760
<v Speaker 1>talked about this on our show before. Realistically, between Jeffrey

1166
00:55:48.800 --> 00:55:54.360
<v Speaker 1>Epstein's situation coming to light and COVID, the population has

1167
00:55:54.400 --> 00:55:57.280
<v Speaker 1>been woken up right. And I don't mean woke is

1168
00:55:57.360 --> 00:56:00.920
<v Speaker 1>in the political ideology term and all that shit. More

1169
00:56:00.920 --> 00:56:02.719
<v Speaker 1>and more people are aware of the fact that A

1170
00:56:03.039 --> 00:56:05.840
<v Speaker 1>we are being lied to on multiple fronts. B. The

1171
00:56:05.880 --> 00:56:08.400
<v Speaker 1>government doesn't have a fucking clue of what they're doing

1172
00:56:08.519 --> 00:56:12.079
<v Speaker 1>or on how best to govern us. And see, they

1173
00:56:12.079 --> 00:56:15.400
<v Speaker 1>don't do anything without it being in their best interest.

1174
00:56:15.519 --> 00:56:18.199
<v Speaker 1>They will never do something that is in our best interests.

1175
00:56:18.280 --> 00:56:20.840
<v Speaker 1>And I think that conversation is a lot more open

1176
00:56:21.400 --> 00:56:23.760
<v Speaker 1>now than it has been in the past century.

1177
00:56:24.519 --> 00:56:28.559
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, man, Absolutely, which is why hopefully if they did

1178
00:56:29.239 --> 00:56:31.840
<v Speaker 2>start talking about locking us down again, hopefully there would

1179
00:56:31.880 --> 00:56:33.480
<v Speaker 2>be more of a pushback. I think it would be

1180
00:56:33.480 --> 00:56:35.639
<v Speaker 2>more of a pushback, but there would still be enough

1181
00:56:35.679 --> 00:56:37.400
<v Speaker 2>people that just sort of sit back and say, yeah,

1182
00:56:37.400 --> 00:56:39.159
<v Speaker 2>that's what they're telling us to do. Because a lot

1183
00:56:39.199 --> 00:56:41.280
<v Speaker 2>of people hated their jobs and a lot of people

1184
00:56:41.320 --> 00:56:44.079
<v Speaker 2>actually that actually really bugs me as well. There's so

1185
00:56:44.159 --> 00:56:47.840
<v Speaker 2>many people that actually enjoyed that period, yeah, which I

1186
00:56:47.960 --> 00:56:50.880
<v Speaker 2>find very sad. And I mean I had quite like

1187
00:56:51.000 --> 00:56:53.280
<v Speaker 2>I know, like a lot of people, I just have

1188
00:56:53.360 --> 00:56:56.639
<v Speaker 2>spiritual awakening. But I was like, I was like, wow,

1189
00:56:56.800 --> 00:57:00.360
<v Speaker 2>like the conspiracies that I believed, it's sort of a

1190
00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:02.000
<v Speaker 2>lot of them are true now, you know. It really

1191
00:57:02.039 --> 00:57:05.159
<v Speaker 2>opened my eyes to the fact that, you know, the

1192
00:57:05.199 --> 00:57:07.239
<v Speaker 2>world is a darker place than that. I thought it

1193
00:57:07.360 --> 00:57:09.400
<v Speaker 2>was right, and I did have and for me it

1194
00:57:09.440 --> 00:57:11.840
<v Speaker 2>was quite a positive thing because I moved out of

1195
00:57:12.159 --> 00:57:14.159
<v Speaker 2>the area where we was in, I got out of

1196
00:57:14.199 --> 00:57:17.400
<v Speaker 2>a job that I wasn't particularly happy with, outstarted podcasting.

1197
00:57:17.760 --> 00:57:19.920
<v Speaker 2>And it was probably because of twenty twenty, to be honest,

1198
00:57:19.960 --> 00:57:23.719
<v Speaker 2>because all of a sudden they took away tomorrow. Yeah

1199
00:57:23.840 --> 00:57:25.559
<v Speaker 2>for a lot of us, which is a bad thing. Really,

1200
00:57:25.599 --> 00:57:28.000
<v Speaker 2>we go, I'll do that tomorrow. You know, I've got

1201
00:57:28.119 --> 00:57:30.000
<v Speaker 2>next week. I'll do it next week, and all of

1202
00:57:30.039 --> 00:57:32.239
<v Speaker 2>a sudden that was gone. It was like, no, I

1203
00:57:32.239 --> 00:57:34.639
<v Speaker 2>haven't got tomorrow. Yeah, So whatever you need to do,

1204
00:57:34.639 --> 00:57:36.519
<v Speaker 2>do it now. If you're gonna get locked away again,

1205
00:57:36.599 --> 00:57:39.079
<v Speaker 2>make sure you're somewhere where you want to be. Like

1206
00:57:39.199 --> 00:57:40.719
<v Speaker 2>we was in a little flat at the time and

1207
00:57:40.760 --> 00:57:43.119
<v Speaker 2>it was it was horrendous. And I had a little

1208
00:57:43.159 --> 00:57:45.840
<v Speaker 2>balcony that we went on and it was like, oh man,

1209
00:57:46.440 --> 00:57:47.239
<v Speaker 2>it was so bad.

1210
00:57:47.719 --> 00:57:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, I agree with you on that. So so

1211
00:57:50.559 --> 00:57:55.119
<v Speaker 1>many humans inherently have a procrastinator spirit within them, and

1212
00:57:55.159 --> 00:57:56.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean all of us are guilty of it to

1213
00:57:56.599 --> 00:57:59.480
<v Speaker 1>one degree or another. But yeah, COVID pretty much put

1214
00:57:59.599 --> 00:58:02.679
<v Speaker 1>a time clock on everything, which, yes, we all understand

1215
00:58:02.679 --> 00:58:04.800
<v Speaker 1>that nobody's making out of this bitch alive, Like we

1216
00:58:04.840 --> 00:58:08.400
<v Speaker 1>get that, But to say, we don't know what next

1217
00:58:08.400 --> 00:58:10.760
<v Speaker 1>month is going to bring. We don't know if you'll

1218
00:58:10.800 --> 00:58:12.519
<v Speaker 1>be able to go back to work in a month.

1219
00:58:12.519 --> 00:58:13.719
<v Speaker 1>We don't know if you'll be able to pay your

1220
00:58:13.719 --> 00:58:16.719
<v Speaker 1>bills in a month. It's all these things. People really

1221
00:58:16.760 --> 00:58:20.320
<v Speaker 1>started living their life, or at least attempting to live

1222
00:58:20.360 --> 00:58:22.960
<v Speaker 1>their life to the fullest, or I know a lot

1223
00:58:23.000 --> 00:58:25.400
<v Speaker 1>of people that have anyway. But the other side of

1224
00:58:25.400 --> 00:58:28.280
<v Speaker 1>that is so many companies realized, you know, we really

1225
00:58:28.360 --> 00:58:30.679
<v Speaker 1>don't have to have this office space. We can have

1226
00:58:30.760 --> 00:58:32.840
<v Speaker 1>all these people work from home to do the exact

1227
00:58:32.840 --> 00:58:36.119
<v Speaker 1>same job function, which that ends up saving the company

1228
00:58:36.199 --> 00:58:39.079
<v Speaker 1>money and say they don't have to take time off

1229
00:58:39.079 --> 00:58:41.400
<v Speaker 1>of work to do something because they're at home already.

1230
00:58:41.599 --> 00:58:43.599
<v Speaker 1>We don't have to rent the office space, we don't

1231
00:58:43.599 --> 00:58:45.760
<v Speaker 1>have to have all this, all this, all this, So

1232
00:58:46.119 --> 00:58:49.119
<v Speaker 1>it was a benefit to some regard, but then also

1233
00:58:49.360 --> 00:58:52.280
<v Speaker 1>to the detriment in another regard, because now so many

1234
00:58:52.360 --> 00:58:54.960
<v Speaker 1>people like, there's, oh, there's all kinds of remote work

1235
00:58:54.960 --> 00:58:57.320
<v Speaker 1>out there, and then the market got so flooded to

1236
00:58:57.320 --> 00:59:00.400
<v Speaker 1>where there's no more remote work available. But all these

1237
00:59:00.440 --> 00:59:03.239
<v Speaker 1>office leasing buildings and all these jobs that people used

1238
00:59:03.280 --> 00:59:05.760
<v Speaker 1>to have are no longer open too. So it it

1239
00:59:05.880 --> 00:59:08.840
<v Speaker 1>helps some people, it screwed some people. COVID was a

1240
00:59:08.880 --> 00:59:11.320
<v Speaker 1>good time for myself and my household, but that was

1241
00:59:11.360 --> 00:59:15.239
<v Speaker 1>because my job was considered a critical job, so I

1242
00:59:15.280 --> 00:59:16.280
<v Speaker 1>was going to work regardless.

1243
00:59:16.639 --> 00:59:19.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I didn't even realize.

1244
00:59:17.599 --> 00:59:21.639
<v Speaker 1>I liked it. I tell you what, I did. Enjoy

1245
00:59:21.760 --> 00:59:25.159
<v Speaker 1>the traffic during COVID because these non critical fucks could

1246
00:59:25.199 --> 00:59:27.599
<v Speaker 1>not drive. Boy, let me tell you it was. It

1247
00:59:27.679 --> 00:59:31.239
<v Speaker 1>was nice fucking zooming to work going eighty five every

1248
00:59:31.280 --> 00:59:34.159
<v Speaker 1>morning without any anybody. No cops are pulling me over them,

1249
00:59:34.159 --> 00:59:36.559
<v Speaker 1>cops are worried about other shit, it's like, yes, yes,

1250
00:59:36.639 --> 00:59:37.039
<v Speaker 1>this is time.

1251
00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:42.280
<v Speaker 3>I was wilding out. Man was doing all sorts of shit.

1252
00:59:43.079 --> 00:59:45.760
<v Speaker 3>I was, I think, doing schoolwork, and I was still

1253
00:59:46.719 --> 00:59:48.920
<v Speaker 3>I had kids, so I was. We went and did

1254
00:59:48.960 --> 00:59:51.880
<v Speaker 3>all sorts of stuff though, because like I was not

1255
00:59:51.960 --> 00:59:53.960
<v Speaker 3>going to just sit at home and be scared for

1256
00:59:54.079 --> 00:59:56.519
<v Speaker 3>my life. Like all my friends, a lot of them

1257
00:59:56.559 --> 01:00:00.000
<v Speaker 3>didn't go and do anything. But then I had some friends.

1258
01:00:00.719 --> 01:00:01.039
<v Speaker 1>We got.

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01:00:01.079 --> 01:00:03.239
<v Speaker 3>The cops called on us at Barnes and Noble a

1260
01:00:03.280 --> 01:00:05.800
<v Speaker 3>few times because we didn't comply with a mask. And

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01:00:05.840 --> 01:00:08.519
<v Speaker 3>I was like, I'm what is the point? Can you

1262
01:00:08.599 --> 01:00:11.119
<v Speaker 3>actually show me the data? Like it's so stupid.

1263
01:00:11.239 --> 01:00:12.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I got to go to a bookstore with your

1264
01:00:12.800 --> 01:00:14.519
<v Speaker 1>conservative ideologies they're rave.

1265
01:00:14.639 --> 01:00:16.559
<v Speaker 3>It was like, use your fucking brain.

1266
01:00:16.599 --> 01:00:18.840
<v Speaker 1>And first off, I know you're not conservative. That's the

1267
01:00:18.840 --> 01:00:19.280
<v Speaker 1>funny part.

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01:00:19.360 --> 01:00:23.119
<v Speaker 3>Already had stars the vaccine like I had the original,

1269
01:00:23.280 --> 01:00:27.079
<v Speaker 3>So what are you talking about? I'm good? Like the

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01:00:27.199 --> 01:00:29.760
<v Speaker 3>kids like they were good. We we went and did

1271
01:00:29.800 --> 01:00:31.960
<v Speaker 3>all sorts of stuff and did a lot of nature

1272
01:00:32.039 --> 01:00:34.880
<v Speaker 3>stuff and that that kind of stuff, and built a

1273
01:00:34.920 --> 01:00:39.239
<v Speaker 3>massive garden, a huge ass garden, and you know, but

1274
01:00:39.599 --> 01:00:43.119
<v Speaker 3>I I just thought it was crazy. The Social Experiment

1275
01:00:43.159 --> 01:00:46.920
<v Speaker 3>aspect of it, and people were so blind to it,

1276
01:00:46.960 --> 01:00:49.760
<v Speaker 3>and I don't understand. Just read a history book, look

1277
01:00:49.760 --> 01:00:53.000
<v Speaker 3>at just even if you're not even into the conspiracy realm,

1278
01:00:53.199 --> 01:00:57.199
<v Speaker 3>just pay attention, listen to what's being said. Hell, when

1279
01:00:57.239 --> 01:01:01.599
<v Speaker 3>the conversation started to shift aggressively toward words them versus

1280
01:01:01.639 --> 01:01:06.239
<v Speaker 3>us vaccinated versus non vaccinated, if you pay attention to

1281
01:01:06.639 --> 01:01:10.039
<v Speaker 3>how people shift into being able to commit genocide and

1282
01:01:10.159 --> 01:01:13.000
<v Speaker 3>the knowledge that they've gained from other genocides and talking

1283
01:01:13.039 --> 01:01:15.760
<v Speaker 3>to people, how did you get in this mindset that

1284
01:01:15.760 --> 01:01:19.920
<v Speaker 3>that same mindset that they use for example Rwanda, they

1285
01:01:20.039 --> 01:01:23.599
<v Speaker 3>use the same type of rhetoric, language and all the

1286
01:01:23.639 --> 01:01:26.559
<v Speaker 3>stuff as what was being used during COVID. When that

1287
01:01:26.760 --> 01:01:31.400
<v Speaker 3>aggressive shift happened, that saame aggressive mindset of like, you're

1288
01:01:31.440 --> 01:01:33.599
<v Speaker 3>trying to kill me and my family because you're not

1289
01:01:33.679 --> 01:01:36.440
<v Speaker 3>taking the vaccine. You deserve to be locked up, you

1290
01:01:36.480 --> 01:01:37.760
<v Speaker 3>deserve to die because.

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01:01:37.639 --> 01:01:40.719
<v Speaker 1>And that took all this, That took precedence over religious yeah,

1292
01:01:40.719 --> 01:01:45.360
<v Speaker 1>that took presence over political ideations, tax class, color of skin,

1293
01:01:45.480 --> 01:01:47.880
<v Speaker 1>None of that mattered. It was now did you get

1294
01:01:47.880 --> 01:01:50.079
<v Speaker 1>the jab Are you trying to kill me because you're

1295
01:01:50.159 --> 01:01:52.119
<v Speaker 1>unvaccinated and you might kill me, and it's like that

1296
01:01:52.119 --> 01:01:53.280
<v Speaker 1>that's it was, that.

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01:01:53.280 --> 01:01:57.559
<v Speaker 3>Fear mongerl and that conversation though that these are there's

1298
01:01:57.760 --> 01:02:01.719
<v Speaker 3>certain steps. There's seven steps to genocide. And I was

1299
01:02:01.760 --> 01:02:04.920
<v Speaker 3>trying to tell people like, look, take away all of

1300
01:02:04.960 --> 01:02:08.360
<v Speaker 3>your bias and whatever, just look at what's being done, Like,

1301
01:02:08.400 --> 01:02:11.719
<v Speaker 3>look at the consistent inconsistency that is being talked about

1302
01:02:11.760 --> 01:02:15.519
<v Speaker 3>with what we should do to protect ourselves. Look at

1303
01:02:15.679 --> 01:02:18.199
<v Speaker 3>where the money trail is. Look at where this came from.

1304
01:02:18.280 --> 01:02:21.440
<v Speaker 3>Look at how the hospitals are reporting. You know, a

1305
01:02:21.440 --> 01:02:25.039
<v Speaker 3>lot of the staff they're out here working killing themselves

1306
01:02:25.360 --> 01:02:28.559
<v Speaker 3>to keep these people alive that are all different, you

1307
01:02:28.599 --> 01:02:31.800
<v Speaker 3>know areas. I actually have my Gunny from the Marine

1308
01:02:31.800 --> 01:02:35.119
<v Speaker 3>Corps had long COVID and still is actually suffering to

1309
01:02:35.400 --> 01:02:38.280
<v Speaker 3>day from the effects. He almost died. He lost his

1310
01:02:38.400 --> 01:02:41.960
<v Speaker 3>voice completely. He can barely talk now like he had

1311
01:02:42.280 --> 01:02:44.440
<v Speaker 3>he lost the ability to walk. Like there's a lot

1312
01:02:44.480 --> 01:02:48.559
<v Speaker 3>of people that actually did have really bad COVID or

1313
01:02:48.639 --> 01:02:51.679
<v Speaker 3>died from COVID, Which doesn't take away, though, from the

1314
01:02:51.719 --> 01:02:54.320
<v Speaker 3>fact that you're trying to lock usin and do all

1315
01:02:54.360 --> 01:02:57.159
<v Speaker 3>of this stuff and using it as a fear tactic

1316
01:02:57.239 --> 01:03:01.039
<v Speaker 3>to remove our rights and to change, how really the

1317
01:03:01.119 --> 01:03:04.960
<v Speaker 3>globe worked and how it's still impacted today. You know,

1318
01:03:05.000 --> 01:03:09.079
<v Speaker 3>I'm still fucking pissed about my twenty four hour Walmart though, Like, yeah,

1319
01:03:09.239 --> 01:03:10.440
<v Speaker 3>still angry about that.

1320
01:03:10.719 --> 01:03:11.679
<v Speaker 1>Is that going now gone?

1321
01:03:11.760 --> 01:03:12.199
<v Speaker 3>It's gone?

1322
01:03:12.280 --> 01:03:15.800
<v Speaker 1>It's the Yeah, Well, because it's about saving money. They

1323
01:03:15.840 --> 01:03:18.239
<v Speaker 1>now realize they don't have to pay their employees all

1324
01:03:18.320 --> 01:03:20.639
<v Speaker 1>as long they wanted to keep the lights on as long.

1325
01:03:22.199 --> 01:03:25.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then you can't find it. You can't find

1326
01:03:25.239 --> 01:03:27.280
<v Speaker 3>half the places. So like say your kids sick at

1327
01:03:27.320 --> 01:03:29.480
<v Speaker 3>two am, and you just you happen to run out

1328
01:03:29.519 --> 01:03:30.400
<v Speaker 3>of medicine or whatever.

1329
01:03:30.440 --> 01:03:32.559
<v Speaker 1>You can't go to the pharmacy, and he gets away funny.

1330
01:03:32.239 --> 01:03:34.920
<v Speaker 3>Where because like everything is closed down. Nothing wants to

1331
01:03:34.960 --> 01:03:38.440
<v Speaker 3>open before nine to ten o'clock. Bitch, we're all up

1332
01:03:38.440 --> 01:03:41.480
<v Speaker 3>at like five six am. We're done with kids on

1333
01:03:41.519 --> 01:03:43.880
<v Speaker 3>the bus and all that by like seven forty. Can

1334
01:03:43.960 --> 01:03:45.960
<v Speaker 3>he not get a store that opens up at eight?

1335
01:03:46.039 --> 01:03:48.719
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to waste my time waiting around to

1336
01:03:48.760 --> 01:03:51.800
<v Speaker 3>be able to go back out. Oh, I know, I'm

1337
01:03:51.800 --> 01:03:53.360
<v Speaker 3>a whole tear about now.

1338
01:03:53.440 --> 01:03:56.000
<v Speaker 1>But to your point, one of my coworkers, motherfuckers. One

1339
01:03:56.039 --> 01:03:58.440
<v Speaker 1>of my coworkers also had long COVID. He still can't

1340
01:03:58.480 --> 01:04:02.320
<v Speaker 1>smell and taste certain things. Yeah, Like it's crazy in Louisiana.

1341
01:04:02.440 --> 01:04:05.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, food is such a critical thing to our culture.

1342
01:04:05.679 --> 01:04:08.039
<v Speaker 1>Your boy has says that most of the really good

1343
01:04:08.039 --> 01:04:11.519
<v Speaker 1>food it tastes like chemicals to him. And it's horrible.

1344
01:04:12.719 --> 01:04:15.119
<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of people that suffered and really did

1345
01:04:15.199 --> 01:04:17.840
<v Speaker 3>suffer long term effects, and some that didn't even have

1346
01:04:17.920 --> 01:04:22.920
<v Speaker 3>effects until a year later of already having It's it's wild.

1347
01:04:23.039 --> 01:04:27.440
<v Speaker 3>So like COVID itself, the actual virus is real, but

1348
01:04:27.599 --> 01:04:31.239
<v Speaker 3>everything else that came about with it was just so

1349
01:04:31.400 --> 01:04:36.119
<v Speaker 3>manufactured and so much so much of social testing. What

1350
01:04:36.159 --> 01:04:40.599
<v Speaker 3>could they get away with, you know, because that's well,

1351
01:04:40.639 --> 01:04:42.880
<v Speaker 3>you know, because they got in trouble, you know, because

1352
01:04:42.880 --> 01:04:45.559
<v Speaker 3>of the concentration camps. Just we'll just use the concentration

1353
01:04:45.639 --> 01:04:51.320
<v Speaker 3>camps here in America. When they put the Japanese internment camps,

1354
01:04:51.519 --> 01:04:53.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, they got in big trouble, and so people

1355
01:04:54.159 --> 01:04:58.400
<v Speaker 3>aren't really really willing to like, hey, we're gonna enclose

1356
01:04:58.440 --> 01:05:02.559
<v Speaker 3>people somewhere anymore. Well, but did you hear the conversations

1357
01:05:02.599 --> 01:05:05.559
<v Speaker 3>with that they were having about putting people in camps.

1358
01:05:05.599 --> 01:05:08.960
<v Speaker 3>What they did in Australia, taking people and putting them

1359
01:05:09.039 --> 01:05:13.000
<v Speaker 3>in these pretty much internment camps that you know, you

1360
01:05:13.039 --> 01:05:14.800
<v Speaker 3>didn't get the vaccine.

1361
01:05:14.360 --> 01:05:17.320
<v Speaker 1>You're a danger freaking quarantine and it's for the public,

1362
01:05:18.920 --> 01:05:19.840
<v Speaker 1>you're sick.

1363
01:05:19.639 --> 01:05:22.639
<v Speaker 3>And all of this, and so so the camps came about.

1364
01:05:22.719 --> 01:05:24.559
<v Speaker 3>But now we found a new way to put people

1365
01:05:24.559 --> 01:05:27.519
<v Speaker 3>in camps because we used fear and it's you know,

1366
01:05:27.559 --> 01:05:29.880
<v Speaker 3>it's the same thing. It's just they had to learn

1367
01:05:29.920 --> 01:05:32.800
<v Speaker 3>how to rework the system to get people to agree

1368
01:05:32.840 --> 01:05:33.079
<v Speaker 3>to it.

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01:05:33.880 --> 01:05:36.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it could have got a lot darker as well.

1370
01:05:37.599 --> 01:05:41.199
<v Speaker 2>I think it was heading towards that way. Yes, Luckily

1371
01:05:41.360 --> 01:05:44.159
<v Speaker 2>enough people did push back and said, you know, look,

1372
01:05:44.159 --> 01:05:47.400
<v Speaker 2>i've had this virus. I know some people affected really badly,

1373
01:05:47.440 --> 01:05:49.880
<v Speaker 2>and that's horrible, but it was quite a small number

1374
01:05:49.920 --> 01:05:52.320
<v Speaker 2>of people, you know, especially if they had nothing else

1375
01:05:52.360 --> 01:05:54.480
<v Speaker 2>wrong with If they had something else wrong with them,

1376
01:05:54.760 --> 01:05:57.960
<v Speaker 2>then yeah, it wasn't good, you know obviously, but to

1377
01:05:58.000 --> 01:06:01.440
<v Speaker 2>actually just get COVID it's just a flu, right, you know,

1378
01:06:01.559 --> 01:06:05.920
<v Speaker 2>really for most people, and we could see that. I

1379
01:06:05.920 --> 01:06:08.559
<v Speaker 2>think most people could see that, and that's why, you know,

1380
01:06:08.599 --> 01:06:10.960
<v Speaker 2>it was important that we did push back because who

1381
01:06:11.000 --> 01:06:12.599
<v Speaker 2>knows where it would have gone had we had just

1382
01:06:12.599 --> 01:06:15.960
<v Speaker 2>sat back and let these restrictions continue. I don't know

1383
01:06:16.000 --> 01:06:19.559
<v Speaker 2>where we'd be right now, and hopefully it doesn't happen again.

1384
01:06:19.960 --> 01:06:22.480
<v Speaker 1>So there was some positive that came out of it though.

1385
01:06:22.760 --> 01:06:25.800
<v Speaker 1>Right For instance, the Call to Conspiracy was founded in

1386
01:06:25.880 --> 01:06:29.400
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty and probably because of COVID, to be completely

1387
01:06:29.400 --> 01:06:31.960
<v Speaker 1>honest with you, and it sounds like your podcast also

1388
01:06:32.039 --> 01:06:35.639
<v Speaker 1>started as as in a cause and effect if you will,

1389
01:06:35.760 --> 01:06:36.719
<v Speaker 1>of COVID.

1390
01:06:37.239 --> 01:06:40.039
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely let's get free. He was born Yeah, because of

1391
01:06:40.079 --> 01:06:42.840
<v Speaker 2>COVID as well. And it was because you know, I

1392
01:06:43.000 --> 01:06:45.239
<v Speaker 2>quit my job that I really didn't enjoy doing, which

1393
01:06:45.280 --> 01:06:46.119
<v Speaker 2>took all my time.

1394
01:06:46.239 --> 01:06:46.840
<v Speaker 1>What were you doing?

1395
01:06:47.199 --> 01:06:48.800
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't really do a podcast. Was working at a

1396
01:06:48.800 --> 01:06:52.239
<v Speaker 2>steel firm, Okay, so it was like still still works, yeah,

1397
01:06:52.280 --> 01:06:54.159
<v Speaker 2>And I was there for seven and a half years.

1398
01:06:54.440 --> 01:06:56.280
<v Speaker 2>I was, what did you say earlier when you were

1399
01:06:56.679 --> 01:06:59.280
<v Speaker 2>during COVID we were given special jobs.

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01:06:59.320 --> 01:07:02.119
<v Speaker 1>I forgot the term critical employees or whatever.

1401
01:07:02.000 --> 01:07:05.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which I didn't realize I was so for the

1402
01:07:05.239 --> 01:07:08.199
<v Speaker 2>first six weeks they kind of when it was going

1403
01:07:08.199 --> 01:07:10.280
<v Speaker 2>really crazy at first, they gave us a choice whether

1404
01:07:10.360 --> 01:07:12.480
<v Speaker 2>we went into work, and I'll be honest, I was like,

1405
01:07:12.559 --> 01:07:14.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't want to catch this because I

1406
01:07:14.280 --> 01:07:16.760
<v Speaker 2>was getting on the London Tube and he was just,

1407
01:07:16.920 --> 01:07:19.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, so busy, and I thought, and I was like,

1408
01:07:19.320 --> 01:07:21.519
<v Speaker 2>I really didn't want to get this virus at first.

1409
01:07:21.519 --> 01:07:23.719
<v Speaker 2>So for the first six weeks I was like in

1410
01:07:24.519 --> 01:07:26.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, with the family protecting, didn't want to. And

1411
01:07:26.840 --> 01:07:30.119
<v Speaker 2>then we went back to work. We started gradually realizing that,

1412
01:07:30.239 --> 01:07:32.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, actually it's not the end of the world

1413
01:07:32.079 --> 01:07:34.719
<v Speaker 2>if you get this or whatever. So I was a

1414
01:07:34.760 --> 01:07:36.679
<v Speaker 2>critical worker and we could go back. A lot of

1415
01:07:36.760 --> 01:07:38.480
<v Speaker 2>jobs couldn't go back. We didn't. A lot of people

1416
01:07:38.519 --> 01:07:39.360
<v Speaker 2>didn't have that choice.

1417
01:07:39.400 --> 01:07:44.280
<v Speaker 1>But you said, you're in Essex, right. Yeah. Birmingham, if

1418
01:07:44.280 --> 01:07:46.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm not mistaken, is big for their steel, or at

1419
01:07:46.280 --> 01:07:48.280
<v Speaker 1>least they used to be. Is that about. I don't

1420
01:07:48.280 --> 01:07:50.039
<v Speaker 1>know if Birmingham in excess.

1421
01:07:49.840 --> 01:07:52.320
<v Speaker 2>Or Birmingham is about. It was about three or four

1422
01:07:52.360 --> 01:07:54.639
<v Speaker 2>hours away. Oh, we did, we did. We did do

1423
01:07:54.719 --> 01:07:58.280
<v Speaker 2>business with Birmingham, but we was we was London based.

1424
01:07:58.719 --> 01:08:01.320
<v Speaker 2>I really like the sound of the UK.

1425
01:08:01.440 --> 01:08:03.760
<v Speaker 1>So I to stay away. Also did not enjoy that work.

1426
01:08:03.800 --> 01:08:06.360
<v Speaker 1>Don't get me wrong, it is very important work, but

1427
01:08:06.480 --> 01:08:06.920
<v Speaker 1>it's hard.

1428
01:08:06.960 --> 01:08:10.280
<v Speaker 2>It's hard on the body man ten hour days crawling.

1429
01:08:10.440 --> 01:08:13.360
<v Speaker 2>It was it was physical. I enjoyed it sometimes because

1430
01:08:13.360 --> 01:08:15.639
<v Speaker 2>it was like a free gym. Yeah, oh yeah, But

1431
01:08:16.840 --> 01:08:18.359
<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to do it forever. You know, our

1432
01:08:18.399 --> 01:08:21.119
<v Speaker 2>knew dudes of are fifty sixties that were doing it

1433
01:08:21.159 --> 01:08:23.960
<v Speaker 2>for a long time, and I had some great times there,

1434
01:08:24.000 --> 01:08:27.079
<v Speaker 2>like great people, but I didn't want to do that forever.

1435
01:08:27.359 --> 01:08:27.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1436
01:08:27.720 --> 01:08:29.640
<v Speaker 2>And I was always, as I said to you before,

1437
01:08:29.680 --> 01:08:32.279
<v Speaker 2>it was always our next week, I'll start.

1438
01:08:32.079 --> 01:08:34.039
<v Speaker 1>A podcast, yeah, And it just was.

1439
01:08:34.159 --> 01:08:36.960
<v Speaker 2>I just I would love podcasts, listening to podcasts. It

1440
01:08:37.000 --> 01:08:39.319
<v Speaker 2>was a big part of my day and I always

1441
01:08:39.359 --> 01:08:42.079
<v Speaker 2>wanted to do it myself, but I never just never

1442
01:08:42.119 --> 01:08:44.359
<v Speaker 2>had a push to like go and actually you can

1443
01:08:44.479 --> 01:08:46.720
<v Speaker 2>do it. And then when twenty twenty happened and I

1444
01:08:46.760 --> 01:08:49.319
<v Speaker 2>was like we talked about moving out away from Essex

1445
01:08:49.359 --> 01:08:51.920
<v Speaker 2>and London, I was like, yeah, let's go. My wife

1446
01:08:52.000 --> 01:08:54.520
<v Speaker 2>got she's a school teacher so she can work anywhere.

1447
01:08:54.680 --> 01:08:56.520
<v Speaker 2>So she was working, she got a job down here,

1448
01:08:56.560 --> 01:08:58.800
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, I'll get another job, I'll start

1449
01:08:58.840 --> 01:08:59.520
<v Speaker 2>my podcast.

1450
01:08:59.640 --> 01:09:00.840
<v Speaker 1>And that was it.

1451
01:09:00.880 --> 01:09:04.920
<v Speaker 2>And that's because of twenty twenty really had it positives

1452
01:09:04.920 --> 01:09:05.560
<v Speaker 2>for me as well.

1453
01:09:05.720 --> 01:09:07.840
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, So what are you doing now as as your

1454
01:09:07.880 --> 01:09:08.520
<v Speaker 1>main job?

1455
01:09:09.600 --> 01:09:12.880
<v Speaker 2>So I work. It's like a Walmart. It's not Walmart,

1456
01:09:13.239 --> 01:09:15.199
<v Speaker 2>it's like that, but it's right next to my house

1457
01:09:15.520 --> 01:09:17.520
<v Speaker 2>and I work in the evening like in the warehouse.

1458
01:09:17.800 --> 01:09:21.840
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely bits around the podcast perfectly. It takes me twenty

1459
01:09:21.880 --> 01:09:24.880
<v Speaker 2>seconds to get there, twenty seconds to get home, and

1460
01:09:24.920 --> 01:09:26.840
<v Speaker 2>then I'm just podcasting for the rest of the time.

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01:09:27.359 --> 01:09:30.880
<v Speaker 2>And then it's not long hours like I was doing before,

1462
01:09:31.000 --> 01:09:33.760
<v Speaker 2>so I can do other stuff around it. And it's

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01:09:33.880 --> 01:09:36.159
<v Speaker 2>just it's allowed me to be able to do the

1464
01:09:36.199 --> 01:09:37.359
<v Speaker 2>podcast as well, you know.

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01:09:37.520 --> 01:09:40.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So are you trying to move into content creation

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01:09:40.279 --> 01:09:42.520
<v Speaker 1>full time or are you pretty much just satisfy where

1467
01:09:42.520 --> 01:09:42.960
<v Speaker 1>you're at.

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01:09:43.359 --> 01:09:45.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, now the goal is to go full time. You

1469
01:09:45.640 --> 01:09:47.800
<v Speaker 2>just talk to cool guys like you all the time.

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01:09:48.000 --> 01:09:48.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I do it.

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01:09:49.279 --> 01:09:51.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm podcasting most nights. I get him from work at

1472
01:09:51.680 --> 01:09:54.560
<v Speaker 2>one o'clock the UK time, and then I start recording

1473
01:09:54.640 --> 01:09:56.560
<v Speaker 2>during the night and it's normally to people in the US,

1474
01:09:56.600 --> 01:10:00.600
<v Speaker 2>so it's the evening for you guys. That what's perfect. Yeah.

1475
01:10:00.840 --> 01:10:03.960
<v Speaker 2>I basically live on US time, to be honest, I

1476
01:10:04.000 --> 01:10:04.359
<v Speaker 2>feel that.

1477
01:10:04.960 --> 01:10:06.880
<v Speaker 1>So how many episodes a week are you dropping?

1478
01:10:07.880 --> 01:10:11.640
<v Speaker 2>So two a week? Yeah, sometimes sometimes free, but mainly

1479
01:10:11.680 --> 01:10:14.640
<v Speaker 2>two a week every Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, those sort of days,

1480
01:10:14.680 --> 01:10:17.359
<v Speaker 2>and I would like to do more, to be honest,

1481
01:10:17.439 --> 01:10:20.479
<v Speaker 2>I would like to do three or four maybe, yeah,

1482
01:10:20.800 --> 01:10:23.920
<v Speaker 2>and yeah, I love doing it like you guys. I

1483
01:10:23.960 --> 01:10:25.920
<v Speaker 2>love doing it. I mean awesome, people like you guys

1484
01:10:26.560 --> 01:10:29.399
<v Speaker 2>have these amazing conversations that you can't always have with

1485
01:10:29.479 --> 01:10:32.359
<v Speaker 2>people at work. You try and talk to people at

1486
01:10:32.399 --> 01:10:35.600
<v Speaker 2>work about this sort of stuff and you get that.

1487
01:10:34.800 --> 01:10:37.119
<v Speaker 1>Look, oh bro, I know the look all too well.

1488
01:10:37.279 --> 01:10:39.399
<v Speaker 1>That for the industry I used to work in, so

1489
01:10:39.479 --> 01:10:44.159
<v Speaker 1>I did electrical and instrumentation work, right, so in heavy industry,

1490
01:10:44.439 --> 01:10:47.159
<v Speaker 1>and before that I was in construction, and so there

1491
01:10:47.199 --> 01:10:50.359
<v Speaker 1>I was the one guy that like, I don't have

1492
01:10:50.439 --> 01:10:52.760
<v Speaker 1>to talk conspiracies, but if somebody's going to bring up

1493
01:10:52.800 --> 01:10:56.279
<v Speaker 1>some shit, like brother, how much time do you got

1494
01:10:56.439 --> 01:10:59.279
<v Speaker 1>we can have this conversation. Then it was it became

1495
01:10:59.319 --> 01:11:01.560
<v Speaker 1>a thing, and everybody knew that about me, so it

1496
01:11:01.600 --> 01:11:03.359
<v Speaker 1>was it wasn't like a running joke by any means.

1497
01:11:03.359 --> 01:11:05.600
<v Speaker 1>But also it was like, Okay, we're just not going

1498
01:11:05.680 --> 01:11:08.800
<v Speaker 1>to bring up certain topics around Jacob, because once he starts,

1499
01:11:08.800 --> 01:11:11.199
<v Speaker 1>he's not going to stop. And somebody one day was like,

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01:11:11.239 --> 01:11:12.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't know why you're not just talking

1501
01:11:12.800 --> 01:11:15.159
<v Speaker 1>for a living. And I was, yeah, if I could

1502
01:11:15.239 --> 01:11:18.319
<v Speaker 1>bro if I could, that'd be great cut too. It's like,

1503
01:11:18.399 --> 01:11:20.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, there's a way, you.

1504
01:11:20.640 --> 01:11:22.239
<v Speaker 3>Know what I want to I just want to shout

1505
01:11:22.239 --> 01:11:24.880
<v Speaker 3>out to all my teachers that gave me bad marks

1506
01:11:24.880 --> 01:11:28.479
<v Speaker 3>throughout my entire you know, school career, saying that I

1507
01:11:28.560 --> 01:11:34.960
<v Speaker 3>talked too much. Get fucked now. It was always the thing.

1508
01:11:35.000 --> 01:11:37.119
<v Speaker 3>It was a running joke for my whole life. Was

1509
01:11:38.119 --> 01:11:40.560
<v Speaker 3>every time I would have great grades, but like the

1510
01:11:40.560 --> 01:11:43.640
<v Speaker 3>one thing always would be, you know, I talk too much.

1511
01:11:43.680 --> 01:11:49.600
<v Speaker 3>And it was funny because I definitely was one of

1512
01:11:49.640 --> 01:11:52.800
<v Speaker 3>those talkers that had to sit down in you know,

1513
01:11:52.840 --> 01:11:54.560
<v Speaker 3>the back of the class and sit with the teacher

1514
01:11:54.680 --> 01:11:57.640
<v Speaker 3>and do all that kind of stuff. And it was like, man,

1515
01:11:58.039 --> 01:11:59.920
<v Speaker 3>one day I might talk for a living or do

1516
01:11:59.920 --> 01:12:02.039
<v Speaker 3>you know, do something. But I actually just wanted to

1517
01:12:02.039 --> 01:12:03.840
<v Speaker 3>help people. I wanted to be in the medical industry,

1518
01:12:03.920 --> 01:12:07.720
<v Speaker 3>so you know, life, life, life wild. So we actually

1519
01:12:07.720 --> 01:12:11.600
<v Speaker 3>had a long conversation though yesterday with somebody about all

1520
01:12:11.640 --> 01:12:12.640
<v Speaker 3>sorts of medical stuff.

1521
01:12:12.680 --> 01:12:14.520
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it's pretty awesome. I don't know if you've

1522
01:12:14.560 --> 01:12:16.960
<v Speaker 1>talked to a deplorable Janet does that name ring a Bell.

1523
01:12:17.319 --> 01:12:18.399
<v Speaker 2>Oh yet No.

1524
01:12:18.520 --> 01:12:20.800
<v Speaker 1>So she's an affiliate of our show, and she has

1525
01:12:20.840 --> 01:12:23.680
<v Speaker 1>her own pod that she does. She is a former

1526
01:12:23.800 --> 01:12:26.800
<v Speaker 1>nurse and she has leaned way more heavily into the

1527
01:12:26.800 --> 01:12:30.800
<v Speaker 1>holistic approach to medicine and healing and health in general.

1528
01:12:31.279 --> 01:12:34.640
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, her, and there's so many there's so many

1529
01:12:34.760 --> 01:12:38.720
<v Speaker 1>creators that are doing this right now that are former doctors,

1530
01:12:38.840 --> 01:12:42.760
<v Speaker 1>former nurses, former pharmacists that are coming forward and like, hey,

1531
01:12:42.880 --> 01:12:45.600
<v Speaker 1>y'all really don't need to take this shit, y'all really

1532
01:12:45.600 --> 01:12:47.880
<v Speaker 1>don't need to go through with this procedure. Y'all really

1533
01:12:48.079 --> 01:12:51.399
<v Speaker 1>And granted it's case by case, you know, and everybody

1534
01:12:51.479 --> 01:12:54.880
<v Speaker 1>is different, everybody's genetics is different. I'm not saying that

1535
01:12:55.439 --> 01:12:57.680
<v Speaker 1>what worked for this person to become cancer free is

1536
01:12:57.720 --> 01:12:59.880
<v Speaker 1>going to work for everybody to become cancer free. And

1537
01:12:59.880 --> 01:13:03.840
<v Speaker 1>I understand that. But the knee jerk reaction to fork

1538
01:13:03.880 --> 01:13:07.840
<v Speaker 1>over and a small fortune for the chance of maybe

1539
01:13:07.840 --> 01:13:09.800
<v Speaker 1>getting two more years of life and then what's your

1540
01:13:09.840 --> 01:13:11.960
<v Speaker 1>quality of life after going through the chemo and all

1541
01:13:12.000 --> 01:13:15.279
<v Speaker 1>this shit, like, people are way too willing to jump

1542
01:13:15.319 --> 01:13:18.000
<v Speaker 1>at that opportunity rather than hey, wait a minute, there

1543
01:13:18.039 --> 01:13:22.319
<v Speaker 1>are alternative methods that have seen some pretty incredible results.

1544
01:13:22.359 --> 01:13:25.359
<v Speaker 1>Perhaps we need to look at those first. And it's yeah,

1545
01:13:25.399 --> 01:13:27.640
<v Speaker 1>that's a whole conversation in and of itself.

1546
01:13:27.720 --> 01:13:30.279
<v Speaker 2>But uh no, doctors got shunned, you know, especially going

1547
01:13:30.319 --> 01:13:32.159
<v Speaker 2>back to this, sorry keep going back to twenty twenty,

1548
01:13:32.319 --> 01:13:35.119
<v Speaker 2>but so many doctors got shunned for speaking out about

1549
01:13:35.159 --> 01:13:37.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, other practices that you could do. And it

1550
01:13:37.640 --> 01:13:39.880
<v Speaker 2>was like and the shutdown as well. I think a

1551
01:13:39.880 --> 01:13:42.359
<v Speaker 2>lot of people notice that They're like, why are you

1552
01:13:42.479 --> 01:13:44.439
<v Speaker 2>dismissing what they're saying. You know, if there's a cheap

1553
01:13:44.520 --> 01:13:46.640
<v Speaker 2>eruption that's going to help people, why wouldn't you do that?

1554
01:13:47.039 --> 01:13:49.600
<v Speaker 2>You know? And that was another big wake up course. Well,

1555
01:13:50.439 --> 01:13:54.199
<v Speaker 2>and you had your your TV doctors, I'm sure your

1556
01:13:54.319 --> 01:13:57.479
<v Speaker 2>TV doctors that were like the voice and and and

1557
01:13:57.960 --> 01:14:01.319
<v Speaker 2>they they there's a doctor in the UK called doctor Hillary.

1558
01:14:01.439 --> 01:14:03.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure I don't. I don't know him very well obviously,

1559
01:14:03.920 --> 01:14:06.760
<v Speaker 2>I've just seen him on TV. But during the COVID

1560
01:14:06.800 --> 01:14:09.720
<v Speaker 2>he was like he was talking really down to people

1561
01:14:09.720 --> 01:14:11.960
<v Speaker 2>that were like sort of doubt in things and stuff

1562
01:14:12.000 --> 01:14:13.439
<v Speaker 2>like that when it came to the JAB and things

1563
01:14:13.520 --> 01:14:17.880
<v Speaker 2>like that, and and it was horrible to see, you know, yeah,

1564
01:14:17.920 --> 01:14:20.680
<v Speaker 2>and recently he's got really sick. And I don't know

1565
01:14:20.720 --> 01:14:23.239
<v Speaker 2>if this is one hundred percent, but apparently it's something

1566
01:14:23.279 --> 01:14:26.840
<v Speaker 2>to do with like the jab wow. And if that

1567
01:14:27.000 --> 01:14:29.359
<v Speaker 2>is the case, then I mean, it would be interesting

1568
01:14:29.399 --> 01:14:30.239
<v Speaker 2>to hear what they say.

1569
01:14:30.319 --> 01:14:32.520
<v Speaker 1>Now, you know, they're gonna find some other way to

1570
01:14:32.520 --> 01:14:34.880
<v Speaker 1>blame it on something else. But to your point about

1571
01:14:35.399 --> 01:14:37.880
<v Speaker 1>TV doctors, I'm gonna be honest with you, and I

1572
01:14:38.159 --> 01:14:40.279
<v Speaker 1>know this might be this might be a bit of

1573
01:14:40.319 --> 01:14:45.079
<v Speaker 1>a bit spicy for some people, but for any actual

1574
01:14:45.199 --> 01:14:48.279
<v Speaker 1>practicing doctor who claims that there are more than two

1575
01:14:48.399 --> 01:14:50.920
<v Speaker 1>genders or something akin to that, I'm sorry. I no

1576
01:14:51.000 --> 01:14:54.640
<v Speaker 1>longer will listen to you on any medical advice literally ever,

1577
01:14:54.680 --> 01:14:57.600
<v Speaker 1>you're going against basic biology. So so many of these

1578
01:14:57.640 --> 01:15:01.680
<v Speaker 1>TV doctors quote unquote doctor. When they started coming out

1579
01:15:01.720 --> 01:15:04.800
<v Speaker 1>with the whole gender conversation a few years back, I

1580
01:15:04.880 --> 01:15:07.319
<v Speaker 1>just completely dismissed them outright.

1581
01:15:07.560 --> 01:15:10.079
<v Speaker 2>So they paid for a lot of politicians, Oh for

1582
01:15:10.119 --> 01:15:13.840
<v Speaker 2>sure paid for that. They they're promoting a brand. I know,

1583
01:15:13.920 --> 01:15:16.079
<v Speaker 2>it's like medicine is not a brand, but it's like

1584
01:15:16.159 --> 01:15:20.439
<v Speaker 2>it's about pushing a sudden it's not making money everything.

1585
01:15:20.600 --> 01:15:21.800
<v Speaker 2>You know, they make you money.

1586
01:15:21.880 --> 01:15:24.680
<v Speaker 1>It was the same thing with the TV judges, Judge Judy,

1587
01:15:25.199 --> 01:15:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Judge Brown, all these things. Of these its content. Yes

1588
01:15:29.079 --> 01:15:32.119
<v Speaker 1>they might be an actual judge, but like, that is

1589
01:15:32.159 --> 01:15:34.920
<v Speaker 1>not how courts happen. If you ever get hemmed up

1590
01:15:34.960 --> 01:15:37.399
<v Speaker 1>and you have to you're getting brought into court to

1591
01:15:37.880 --> 01:15:39.479
<v Speaker 1>state your case and you have to lawyer up in

1592
01:15:39.520 --> 01:15:43.760
<v Speaker 1>all this, that TV entertainment is going to get you

1593
01:15:43.880 --> 01:15:45.479
<v Speaker 1>fucked up if you try to use that as a

1594
01:15:45.520 --> 01:15:47.920
<v Speaker 1>precedence on how you're about to fight your case. Like,

1595
01:15:47.920 --> 01:15:52.319
<v Speaker 1>that's not reality, right, And so it's Yeah, people also

1596
01:15:52.359 --> 01:15:54.880
<v Speaker 1>don't understand that TV is not real life, Like, dude,

1597
01:15:54.880 --> 01:15:58.079
<v Speaker 1>I remember, God, I'm kind of embarrassed to mention this

1598
01:15:58.680 --> 01:16:03.840
<v Speaker 1>so oh for a long time some family members. Yeah,

1599
01:16:03.840 --> 01:16:05.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how it is in the UK, but

1600
01:16:05.319 --> 01:16:08.560
<v Speaker 1>in America there's these like repo shows, right, Lizard Licked

1601
01:16:08.600 --> 01:16:13.680
<v Speaker 1>Towing or a Long Island. It's funny. It's funny as shit.

1602
01:16:13.760 --> 01:16:15.159
<v Speaker 1>You never seen this, I.

1603
01:16:15.239 --> 01:16:17.359
<v Speaker 3>Kind of know. It is kind of like Storage Wars, which,

1604
01:16:17.399 --> 01:16:19.479
<v Speaker 3>by the way, I do like story shows, but that's.

1605
01:16:19.359 --> 01:16:22.760
<v Speaker 1>Also not reality either. A lot of the a lot

1606
01:16:22.800 --> 01:16:25.920
<v Speaker 1>of the items in these storage units are planted there

1607
01:16:26.000 --> 01:16:28.279
<v Speaker 1>to make it better for the show because most storage

1608
01:16:28.319 --> 01:16:30.920
<v Speaker 1>units have nothing in them. But so these these towing

1609
01:16:30.960 --> 01:16:34.359
<v Speaker 1>and repo companies right and that are on TV. Now,

1610
01:16:34.399 --> 01:16:37.319
<v Speaker 1>I am not saying that a tow truck come into

1611
01:16:37.399 --> 01:16:39.720
<v Speaker 1>some random house at two am. The owner of the

1612
01:16:39.720 --> 01:16:41.119
<v Speaker 1>car is not going to come out and throw some

1613
01:16:41.159 --> 01:16:42.920
<v Speaker 1>shit at them or some I'm like, Okay, this happens

1614
01:16:43.039 --> 01:16:47.479
<v Speaker 1>for sure. But I had some close family members that

1615
01:16:47.600 --> 01:16:51.840
<v Speaker 1>believed that Lizard Lick Towing was real life, and I

1616
01:16:51.880 --> 01:16:54.960
<v Speaker 1>had to show them. I had to show them, God,

1617
01:16:55.039 --> 01:16:57.359
<v Speaker 1>was it Orange Beach or something one of these where

1618
01:16:57.359 --> 01:16:59.880
<v Speaker 1>it was this uh, this short black dikey chick with

1619
01:16:59.880 --> 01:17:03.039
<v Speaker 1>a cane and she got thrown off of like a

1620
01:17:03.119 --> 01:17:07.239
<v Speaker 1>five story parking garage from the person who she was

1621
01:17:07.239 --> 01:17:09.720
<v Speaker 1>trying to repossess their car. Then as they drive out,

1622
01:17:09.760 --> 01:17:11.720
<v Speaker 1>she walks up and beats the shit out of them

1623
01:17:11.800 --> 01:17:14.239
<v Speaker 1>out like as they were trying to leave the parking garage.

1624
01:17:14.279 --> 01:17:17.479
<v Speaker 1>Five stories, h five fucking stories. And I had to

1625
01:17:17.520 --> 01:17:20.159
<v Speaker 1>show my family member this clip and be like, please

1626
01:17:20.279 --> 01:17:23.239
<v Speaker 1>understand that TV is not reality.

1627
01:17:23.520 --> 01:17:26.359
<v Speaker 3>Ever, many people die that fall off of roofs that

1628
01:17:26.399 --> 01:17:27.399
<v Speaker 3>are not very high.

1629
01:17:27.439 --> 01:17:30.199
<v Speaker 1>It was clearly a dummy, like the body was spinning

1630
01:17:30.399 --> 01:17:32.000
<v Speaker 1>as it went down. It was like it was a

1631
01:17:32.039 --> 01:17:35.279
<v Speaker 1>cotton dummy. But like, oh, that's real. These people will

1632
01:17:35.319 --> 01:17:37.039
<v Speaker 1>lose their minds if you try to take their truck.

1633
01:17:37.039 --> 01:17:40.159
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, okay, I hear you, that's not real.

1634
01:17:40.319 --> 01:17:42.800
<v Speaker 1>What you're saying might be reality. But television is not

1635
01:17:43.000 --> 01:17:46.159
<v Speaker 1>the same with the TV doctors, TV judges, TV whatever.

1636
01:17:46.239 --> 01:17:50.840
<v Speaker 1>It's it's content made for the baseline and more often

1637
01:17:50.880 --> 01:17:53.600
<v Speaker 1>than not, the underlings of the baseline. It's a Jerry Springer,

1638
01:17:53.840 --> 01:17:54.079
<v Speaker 1>you know.

1639
01:17:55.439 --> 01:17:56.319
<v Speaker 2>Did you just to enjoy that?

1640
01:17:56.520 --> 01:18:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Did you enjoy Jerry was? Jerry was the shild god

1641
01:18:02.079 --> 01:18:06.560
<v Speaker 1>Man anyway, So cutting back, you started your pod in

1642
01:18:06.680 --> 01:18:10.279
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty and you primarily went into the realm of

1643
01:18:10.399 --> 01:18:15.399
<v Speaker 1>the paranormal, paranormalrypt spiritual.

1644
01:18:15.479 --> 01:18:16.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1645
01:18:16.640 --> 01:18:20.079
<v Speaker 1>And so Britain actually has a pretty stoic history as

1646
01:18:20.119 --> 01:18:21.800
<v Speaker 1>far as a lot of this is concerned. But a

1647
01:18:21.840 --> 01:18:23.840
<v Speaker 1>lot of people in the United States don't understand that.

1648
01:18:23.960 --> 01:18:27.159
<v Speaker 1>Like when we think of UFOs and America, we think Roswell, right,

1649
01:18:27.159 --> 01:18:29.199
<v Speaker 1>we think of the big ones that we've heard of.

1650
01:18:29.920 --> 01:18:34.119
<v Speaker 1>We did one on rendel Sham Forrests, which most people

1651
01:18:34.119 --> 01:18:35.840
<v Speaker 1>in the United States have never heard of, which was

1652
01:18:36.000 --> 01:18:37.800
<v Speaker 1>essentially Britain's Roswell.

1653
01:18:38.319 --> 01:18:41.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, and so the US military pace.

1654
01:18:41.840 --> 01:18:44.319
<v Speaker 1>Yes it was, Yes, it was. But there's I think

1655
01:18:44.319 --> 01:18:47.640
<v Speaker 1>there's like a thousand UFO sightings in your country every year.

1656
01:18:48.039 --> 01:18:50.479
<v Speaker 1>But most people in America have no idea about this.

1657
01:18:50.399 --> 01:18:52.439
<v Speaker 2>And that's just one's a lot reported. You think most

1658
01:18:52.479 --> 01:18:54.760
<v Speaker 2>people don't report these things when they see these things.

1659
01:18:54.960 --> 01:18:58.760
<v Speaker 2>I would say nine out of ten people that I

1660
01:18:58.840 --> 01:19:01.119
<v Speaker 2>talk to, whether they're on the podcast or we're just

1661
01:19:01.159 --> 01:19:05.439
<v Speaker 2>talking at work, however, have experienced something paranormal or have

1662
01:19:05.560 --> 01:19:07.760
<v Speaker 2>seen something in the sky that they can't explain. You know,

1663
01:19:07.760 --> 01:19:11.239
<v Speaker 2>it's very rare to meet someone that's never experienced anything,

1664
01:19:11.279 --> 01:19:13.239
<v Speaker 2>and I find that so interesting. Like even if you

1665
01:19:13.279 --> 01:19:16.199
<v Speaker 2>talk to someone and quite often you will tell them

1666
01:19:16.199 --> 01:19:18.039
<v Speaker 2>about the podcast and go, I don't believe in that

1667
01:19:18.119 --> 01:19:21.199
<v Speaker 2>kind of stuff. Man, you know, that's nonsense. There was

1668
01:19:21.239 --> 01:19:23.760
<v Speaker 2>this one time that is such a that's the thing

1669
01:19:23.800 --> 01:19:26.359
<v Speaker 2>I hear so much. There was this one time. And

1670
01:19:26.399 --> 01:19:29.119
<v Speaker 2>they'll either tell me a world experience that they had

1671
01:19:29.680 --> 01:19:32.560
<v Speaker 2>or someone in their family had that they trust, and

1672
01:19:32.600 --> 01:19:35.399
<v Speaker 2>it's like, man, I mean, so you're saying it's nonsense,

1673
01:19:35.439 --> 01:19:39.199
<v Speaker 2>but you accept that experience that happened, you know, I'm

1674
01:19:39.199 --> 01:19:41.840
<v Speaker 2>not saying everything's paranormal, you know, we do. We have

1675
01:19:41.920 --> 01:19:44.880
<v Speaker 2>got strong imaginations. Things can be manipulated and we can

1676
01:19:45.000 --> 01:19:48.359
<v Speaker 2>manifest things. But for sure, sometimes there is things that

1677
01:19:48.399 --> 01:19:51.720
<v Speaker 2>happen that we just cannot explain. And what that is

1678
01:19:51.760 --> 01:19:54.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but it's so interesting trying to find out,

1679
01:19:54.920 --> 01:19:58.640
<v Speaker 2>no doubt, and with UFOs, I've seen UFOs myself. I've

1680
01:19:58.640 --> 01:20:01.359
<v Speaker 2>had experiences. I know that there's more going on.

1681
01:20:01.800 --> 01:20:03.880
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, Wait what experiences have you had?

1682
01:20:03.960 --> 01:20:07.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, tell us, I'll tell you I've got quite a few.

1683
01:20:07.600 --> 01:20:11.600
<v Speaker 2>No ship. But my so, if I go back to

1684
01:20:11.640 --> 01:20:13.760
<v Speaker 2>the start, I grew up in like a haunted house

1685
01:20:14.159 --> 01:20:17.720
<v Speaker 2>when I was a kid. Our house was very strange.

1686
01:20:17.760 --> 01:20:19.640
<v Speaker 1>How old was the house? Because that's another thing that

1687
01:20:19.640 --> 01:20:22.000
<v Speaker 1>we don't have in America. I know multiple people in

1688
01:20:22.039 --> 01:20:23.880
<v Speaker 1>Britain they're like, oh, yeah, my house is about three

1689
01:20:23.920 --> 01:20:25.960
<v Speaker 1>hundred years old. This and this. That's like a normal

1690
01:20:26.000 --> 01:20:30.119
<v Speaker 1>fucking sentence here, that is that's not something you would

1691
01:20:30.159 --> 01:20:32.640
<v Speaker 1>say unless this is some family estate or some sort

1692
01:20:32.640 --> 01:20:34.479
<v Speaker 1>of a mansion, right right.

1693
01:20:34.399 --> 01:20:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, Well there's a castle just down the road

1694
01:20:36.920 --> 01:20:39.640
<v Speaker 2>from me right now which is over a thousand years old.

1695
01:20:39.680 --> 01:20:43.640
<v Speaker 2>Coolfee Castle and William the Conqueror was involved in the

1696
01:20:43.680 --> 01:20:45.920
<v Speaker 2>building of the castle and stuff. So we have got

1697
01:20:45.960 --> 01:20:48.439
<v Speaker 2>so much history like that which goes way.

1698
01:20:49.000 --> 01:20:50.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm so fucking jealous of this.

1699
01:20:50.800 --> 01:20:56.439
<v Speaker 3>I could just see him, like the massive history nerds.

1700
01:20:56.479 --> 01:20:58.439
<v Speaker 3>So like the fact that you just said that, I

1701
01:20:58.439 --> 01:21:01.399
<v Speaker 3>could just see the face of Like, No.

1702
01:21:01.560 --> 01:21:03.880
<v Speaker 1>It kills me, you know what, It fucking kills me.

1703
01:21:04.159 --> 01:21:08.520
<v Speaker 1>The fact that Wales exists. Okay, Wales itself has more

1704
01:21:08.600 --> 01:21:11.840
<v Speaker 1>castles than anywhere else on earth, and the people that

1705
01:21:11.960 --> 01:21:15.039
<v Speaker 1>live there couldn't give a fuck less about it, and

1706
01:21:15.079 --> 01:21:16.560
<v Speaker 1>it fucking kills me.

1707
01:21:16.760 --> 01:21:18.319
<v Speaker 3>I really want to go and see all of this.

1708
01:21:18.560 --> 01:21:21.680
<v Speaker 3>So bad mind for us, it's it's you know, we

1709
01:21:21.800 --> 01:21:26.000
<v Speaker 3>actually have a weird little castle here in Louisiana. Yeah,

1710
01:21:26.039 --> 01:21:28.319
<v Speaker 3>and it's like in the I don't even know how

1711
01:21:28.359 --> 01:21:30.239
<v Speaker 3>you get to it. I've drove past it so many

1712
01:21:30.239 --> 01:21:30.640
<v Speaker 3>times to.

1713
01:21:31.000 --> 01:21:32.359
<v Speaker 1>State Capitol building in ben Rouvere.

1714
01:21:32.520 --> 01:21:34.960
<v Speaker 3>No, the one that you go from Covington to New

1715
01:21:35.079 --> 01:21:37.920
<v Speaker 3>Orleans and it's on like in this weird Bayu section

1716
01:21:38.119 --> 01:21:40.680
<v Speaker 3>off on the river. But that's this white castle and

1717
01:21:40.720 --> 01:21:42.039
<v Speaker 3>it's like, what the fuck is that?

1718
01:21:42.239 --> 01:21:44.000
<v Speaker 1>But it's not an old one. It's a modern thing

1719
01:21:44.000 --> 01:21:46.239
<v Speaker 1>that somebody made within the last one hundred hundred and

1720
01:21:46.279 --> 01:21:46.840
<v Speaker 1>fifty years.

1721
01:21:46.840 --> 01:21:51.520
<v Speaker 3>We're old. We don't have anything crazy old like that. Yeah, yeah,

1722
01:21:51.640 --> 01:21:54.079
<v Speaker 3>so we don't have castles like you guys. And for

1723
01:21:54.199 --> 01:21:56.319
<v Speaker 3>those of us that are, you know, really want to

1724
01:21:56.359 --> 01:21:59.279
<v Speaker 3>see them and experience them, it's like you don't even care.

1725
01:22:00.000 --> 01:22:02.600
<v Speaker 1>What's this thing we have? Realistically, the closest thing we

1726
01:22:02.640 --> 01:22:05.600
<v Speaker 1>have in Louisiana to something that is like inherently a

1727
01:22:05.600 --> 01:22:07.399
<v Speaker 1>part of history, the good and the bad of that

1728
01:22:07.439 --> 01:22:12.159
<v Speaker 1>and everything, would be plantation homes, yes, which is cool

1729
01:22:12.159 --> 01:22:13.840
<v Speaker 1>and it does have a lot of history and all

1730
01:22:13.920 --> 01:22:17.399
<v Speaker 1>these other things. This is not William the Conqueror once

1731
01:22:17.479 --> 01:22:20.680
<v Speaker 1>lived here, and shit, this is insane and again but

1732
01:22:20.760 --> 01:22:22.920
<v Speaker 1>actually cry right now, most of the people that live

1733
01:22:23.279 --> 01:22:25.359
<v Speaker 1>in and around that area, they've seen it so many

1734
01:22:25.399 --> 01:22:27.600
<v Speaker 1>times and it's not that big of a deal. Stone Hinge.

1735
01:22:28.119 --> 01:22:30.119
<v Speaker 1>People don't give a look about Stonehengs.

1736
01:22:30.720 --> 01:22:32.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm about forty minutes from.

1737
01:22:32.680 --> 01:22:34.800
<v Speaker 3>No shit, so we're just going to come crash with

1738
01:22:34.840 --> 01:22:40.880
<v Speaker 3>you over talking about Well, so I want to go

1739
01:22:40.960 --> 01:22:43.920
<v Speaker 3>for my own reasons because there's certain FASTI solstices, man, Yeah,

1740
01:22:43.920 --> 01:22:46.520
<v Speaker 3>there's certain solstice that I really want to attend, and

1741
01:22:46.720 --> 01:22:49.319
<v Speaker 3>like the all of us goes down there, and so

1742
01:22:49.680 --> 01:22:51.920
<v Speaker 3>we've talked about going and making a whole business to

1743
01:22:52.000 --> 01:22:55.199
<v Speaker 3>trip and trying to reach out to as many people

1744
01:22:55.239 --> 01:22:58.359
<v Speaker 3>as possible that we know and be able to see everybody.

1745
01:22:58.479 --> 01:23:04.640
<v Speaker 2>So, yeah, you go place to stay. Yeah, Stonehenges wild.

1746
01:23:04.920 --> 01:23:07.960
<v Speaker 2>I love Stonehenge, Like I remember we used to drive

1747
01:23:08.000 --> 01:23:10.079
<v Speaker 2>past Stonehenge when we was when I was a kid,

1748
01:23:10.119 --> 01:23:13.119
<v Speaker 2>every summer we used to go to Cornwall and we'd

1749
01:23:13.159 --> 01:23:16.239
<v Speaker 2>have to drive past Stonehenge there and back. And I

1750
01:23:16.279 --> 01:23:19.520
<v Speaker 2>was always like, I've always been amazed by that. And

1751
01:23:19.560 --> 01:23:21.920
<v Speaker 2>we used to we used to stop and this is

1752
01:23:21.920 --> 01:23:25.279
<v Speaker 2>really weird. I remember this. I remember getting out of

1753
01:23:25.279 --> 01:23:27.399
<v Speaker 2>the car and like me and my dad and my

1754
01:23:27.399 --> 01:23:30.640
<v Speaker 2>brother and my mom would like go over to the stones.

1755
01:23:31.039 --> 01:23:33.880
<v Speaker 2>I remember touching them, remember being inside them. And we

1756
01:23:34.000 --> 01:23:35.840
<v Speaker 2>used to do it. But I had a guy on

1757
01:23:35.880 --> 01:23:38.079
<v Speaker 2>the show was a couple of years back. It's like

1758
01:23:38.159 --> 01:23:41.640
<v Speaker 2>near the start, and my Matt Pike his name was,

1759
01:23:41.680 --> 01:23:45.000
<v Speaker 2>and he works at Stone Engine now, and he he said,

1760
01:23:45.039 --> 01:23:48.199
<v Speaker 2>you've never been able to just walk over to the stones, right.

1761
01:23:48.399 --> 01:23:50.600
<v Speaker 2>He's he's not a security guy. He's more like he's

1762
01:23:50.640 --> 01:23:53.079
<v Speaker 2>more like he's a teacher that like, and he talks

1763
01:23:53.119 --> 01:23:55.399
<v Speaker 2>about the stones and stuff, and I said, no, I

1764
01:23:55.439 --> 01:23:58.800
<v Speaker 2>remember I used to do that. We He said, maybe

1765
01:23:59.279 --> 01:24:01.960
<v Speaker 2>because there was always guards on the stones. He said,

1766
01:24:02.000 --> 01:24:04.399
<v Speaker 2>maybe you went when the guards were gone, because that

1767
01:24:04.439 --> 01:24:06.520
<v Speaker 2>did happen. They would leave the stones every now and again.

1768
01:24:06.880 --> 01:24:08.840
<v Speaker 2>I was like, yeah, I don't remember guards being there.

1769
01:24:08.840 --> 01:24:11.720
<v Speaker 2>I remember going over there and not touching them and stuff.

1770
01:24:11.800 --> 01:24:13.560
<v Speaker 2>He said, I shouldn't have been able to do that.

1771
01:24:13.720 --> 01:24:15.680
<v Speaker 2>There is like a barrier around it now, but it's

1772
01:24:15.680 --> 01:24:17.560
<v Speaker 2>not like a proper barrier. It's like a bit of

1773
01:24:17.600 --> 01:24:19.920
<v Speaker 2>rope that you could jump over. There is ways of

1774
01:24:20.039 --> 01:24:24.359
<v Speaker 2>getting to the stones. I think they are guarded, but yeah, incredible.

1775
01:24:24.399 --> 01:24:25.399
<v Speaker 2>I love stone inge man.

1776
01:24:26.920 --> 01:24:29.039
<v Speaker 1>But most of the people drive by it every day.

1777
01:24:29.159 --> 01:24:31.399
<v Speaker 1>It's just whatever. Oh yeah, it's just the thing and

1778
01:24:31.479 --> 01:24:32.640
<v Speaker 1>get used to its.

1779
01:24:33.159 --> 01:24:35.479
<v Speaker 2>Where I live is that there's like beaches, which is

1780
01:24:35.520 --> 01:24:37.760
<v Speaker 2>a big reason why we moved here because we wanted

1781
01:24:37.760 --> 01:24:40.159
<v Speaker 2>to be by the beach. Nobody that lives here goes

1782
01:24:40.199 --> 01:24:45.760
<v Speaker 2>to the beach. They're like, it's you know, and I'm like.

1783
01:24:45.880 --> 01:24:48.720
<v Speaker 1>What, That's why I'm here, right, But I mean British

1784
01:24:48.720 --> 01:24:52.800
<v Speaker 1>beaches also are not the picture scene that you think

1785
01:24:52.880 --> 01:24:55.319
<v Speaker 1>of from the from the Caribbean and two.

1786
01:24:55.239 --> 01:24:56.800
<v Speaker 2>Days a year where you can go on the beach.

1787
01:24:57.039 --> 01:24:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, four days. Yeah, man, I remember that.

1788
01:25:00.079 --> 01:25:03.560
<v Speaker 3>That's also the same as Rome. To me, Yeah, being

1789
01:25:03.560 --> 01:25:06.319
<v Speaker 3>around the coliseum and everything. They don't give a flying

1790
01:25:06.479 --> 01:25:09.039
<v Speaker 3>fuck about that, and I'm like, you's, oh my god,

1791
01:25:09.560 --> 01:25:11.399
<v Speaker 3>it's just to be able to see it, Like we're

1792
01:25:11.439 --> 01:25:13.560
<v Speaker 3>trying to implant our whole life around being able to

1793
01:25:13.560 --> 01:25:15.640
<v Speaker 3>go and do all these things. And you know, for

1794
01:25:15.680 --> 01:25:17.600
<v Speaker 3>people that see it every day, it doesn't really matter.

1795
01:25:17.960 --> 01:25:21.000
<v Speaker 3>But I mean, I guess the same as plantations.

1796
01:25:20.479 --> 01:25:22.840
<v Speaker 1>Same with Crypto Women's Society. I forget which one it was,

1797
01:25:22.840 --> 01:25:25.680
<v Speaker 1>but she went to Egypt and she had a blast

1798
01:25:25.760 --> 01:25:28.640
<v Speaker 1>hern or so went to Egypt. There are just piles

1799
01:25:28.640 --> 01:25:32.560
<v Speaker 1>of artifacts just all around that people don't care about

1800
01:25:33.119 --> 01:25:35.239
<v Speaker 1>because I mean, it's whatever. It's not these like ornate

1801
01:25:35.279 --> 01:25:38.439
<v Speaker 1>golden things. It's like a clay, a clay molding of something.

1802
01:25:38.479 --> 01:25:41.560
<v Speaker 1>But like guaranteed this is three thousand years old. It's

1803
01:25:41.560 --> 01:25:43.520
<v Speaker 1>just thrown on the side of the road. Nobody gives

1804
01:25:43.520 --> 01:25:46.920
<v Speaker 1>a fuck, and it's like, I'm sorry, what what actually

1805
01:25:46.960 --> 01:25:47.880
<v Speaker 1>is happening right now?

1806
01:25:47.920 --> 01:25:49.760
<v Speaker 3>But even while I'm on a dig where we had

1807
01:25:49.920 --> 01:25:54.159
<v Speaker 3>like every single piece of anything had to be put

1808
01:25:54.199 --> 01:25:55.880
<v Speaker 3>into stuff, even.

1809
01:25:55.760 --> 01:25:57.800
<v Speaker 1>Health she's talking about archaeological dig site.

1810
01:25:57.800 --> 01:26:00.560
<v Speaker 3>By the way, I had to go. So we even

1811
01:26:00.640 --> 01:26:03.079
<v Speaker 3>had to we had to take the dirt that we're

1812
01:26:03.159 --> 01:26:05.720
<v Speaker 3>digging out of the holes and stuff, and so you

1813
01:26:05.760 --> 01:26:07.039
<v Speaker 3>had to do a grid. You have to do it

1814
01:26:07.039 --> 01:26:10.439
<v Speaker 3>specifically a certain way. All of that dirt has to

1815
01:26:10.520 --> 01:26:13.880
<v Speaker 3>then be taken to a station that's going to be

1816
01:26:14.119 --> 01:26:17.239
<v Speaker 3>washed and sifted through at least twice to pick out

1817
01:26:17.279 --> 01:26:20.960
<v Speaker 3>anything that could potentially be an artifact of some type.

1818
01:26:21.319 --> 01:26:23.920
<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile, the Egyptians could not give a fuck less.

1819
01:26:24.000 --> 01:26:27.119
<v Speaker 3>Ye, yeah, which is crazy because, like you the smallest

1820
01:26:27.159 --> 01:26:30.399
<v Speaker 3>things like a bead, this small is going to be kept.

1821
01:26:30.560 --> 01:26:33.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but if that it's iron, then that changes the

1822
01:26:33.319 --> 01:26:34.439
<v Speaker 1>course of human history.

1823
01:26:34.680 --> 01:26:37.920
<v Speaker 3>It's wild. It's yeah, every little thing because.

1824
01:26:38.159 --> 01:26:39.720
<v Speaker 1>Let me see, Oh you have stuff, don't you.

1825
01:26:40.199 --> 01:26:43.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we don't have these. We're not going to talk about.

1826
01:26:43.079 --> 01:26:46.039
<v Speaker 1>Them unless and you can see what she's holding up.

1827
01:26:46.119 --> 01:26:48.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm not going to talk about them. We'll just

1828
01:26:48.119 --> 01:26:50.359
<v Speaker 3>show you. But these are these are some of the

1829
01:26:50.399 --> 01:26:55.439
<v Speaker 3>things that you know that I acquired and yeah, and

1830
01:26:55.520 --> 01:26:58.359
<v Speaker 3>like those are you know, but you had to find

1831
01:26:58.359 --> 01:27:00.399
<v Speaker 3>it throughout the dirt and all the raw and all

1832
01:27:00.439 --> 01:27:02.600
<v Speaker 3>that stuff. And I've heard of lots of places where

1833
01:27:02.920 --> 01:27:04.960
<v Speaker 3>when you're surrounded by so much history you just don't

1834
01:27:04.960 --> 01:27:07.640
<v Speaker 3>give a flying fuck. But it's like, but that matters,

1835
01:27:07.680 --> 01:27:10.680
<v Speaker 3>Like we shouldn't be destroying all of this, but so

1836
01:27:10.840 --> 01:27:13.159
<v Speaker 3>much of it has been destroyed through human history, and

1837
01:27:13.199 --> 01:27:16.800
<v Speaker 3>it's just like, Okay, well, it's you're destroying a picture

1838
01:27:16.840 --> 01:27:19.800
<v Speaker 3>that we could be painting to understand actually what really

1839
01:27:19.800 --> 01:27:23.560
<v Speaker 3>went on. Besides the writings of the conquerors, we actually

1840
01:27:23.560 --> 01:27:26.079
<v Speaker 3>could find real proof of what went on and what

1841
01:27:26.119 --> 01:27:28.600
<v Speaker 3>was happening, what trade was happening, Because that's a big thing,

1842
01:27:29.039 --> 01:27:32.840
<v Speaker 3>is the trade aspect of where I was digging was

1843
01:27:33.119 --> 01:27:36.119
<v Speaker 3>changing the narrative depending on what they found and how

1844
01:27:36.199 --> 01:27:39.439
<v Speaker 3>old changed the narrative. What we knew, yeah, and what

1845
01:27:39.479 --> 01:27:42.439
<v Speaker 3>we've been taught. And so it's like, without even those

1846
01:27:42.479 --> 01:27:44.359
<v Speaker 3>small little things, we are not going to be able

1847
01:27:44.399 --> 01:27:47.560
<v Speaker 3>to actually paint a real picture and have discussions about

1848
01:27:47.600 --> 01:27:50.439
<v Speaker 3>what we thought was happening versus what actually was happening,

1849
01:27:50.439 --> 01:27:53.359
<v Speaker 3>because now we can actually see, no, this is what

1850
01:27:53.399 --> 01:27:55.840
<v Speaker 3>they're trading, this is who they were interacting with. How

1851
01:27:55.880 --> 01:27:57.800
<v Speaker 3>the hell were they even interacting with them when they

1852
01:27:57.840 --> 01:27:59.039
<v Speaker 3>didn't even know they existed.

1853
01:27:59.199 --> 01:28:02.239
<v Speaker 1>So but even aside from the ancients, right, even within

1854
01:28:02.239 --> 01:28:06.359
<v Speaker 1>the last thousand years, two thousand years, so many European

1855
01:28:06.399 --> 01:28:10.560
<v Speaker 1>countries have a very deep, rich history to the land itself, right.

1856
01:28:10.720 --> 01:28:12.399
<v Speaker 1>For instance, Like you're talking about the house she grew

1857
01:28:12.479 --> 01:28:14.279
<v Speaker 1>up in. This was how old of a house?

1858
01:28:15.159 --> 01:28:20.479
<v Speaker 2>So the actual house itself wasn't particularly old. Okay, who

1859
01:28:20.520 --> 01:28:23.720
<v Speaker 2>knows what was there before? And it was right next

1860
01:28:23.760 --> 01:28:24.479
<v Speaker 2>to a graveyard.

1861
01:28:24.680 --> 01:28:27.520
<v Speaker 1>Mm oh god, the Finnish graveyard would kill me too.

1862
01:28:27.560 --> 01:28:30.079
<v Speaker 1>Oh this tombstone says fourteen hundred.

1863
01:28:29.920 --> 01:28:31.960
<v Speaker 3>So happy I'd be like, hey, guys.

1864
01:28:34.199 --> 01:28:36.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't know the actual age of the house. It

1865
01:28:37.000 --> 01:28:38.880
<v Speaker 2>wasn't particularly old, and as I said, I don't know

1866
01:28:38.920 --> 01:28:42.159
<v Speaker 2>what was there before, right, But.

1867
01:28:41.640 --> 01:28:43.000
<v Speaker 3>What happened when you lived there?

1868
01:28:43.720 --> 01:28:46.279
<v Speaker 2>It was a it was a freaky house. When we left,

1869
01:28:47.279 --> 01:28:48.960
<v Speaker 2>we didn't we didn't really talk about it when we

1870
01:28:48.960 --> 01:28:50.880
<v Speaker 2>were kids, obviously because me and my brother were young.

1871
01:28:51.359 --> 01:28:54.039
<v Speaker 2>When we left, I remember my dad saying, so glad

1872
01:28:54.079 --> 01:28:56.800
<v Speaker 2>we got a house man. Something was wasn't right, and

1873
01:28:56.840 --> 01:28:59.760
<v Speaker 2>there was a lot of weird stuff, like you're normal

1874
01:29:00.000 --> 01:29:02.520
<v Speaker 2>wanted house. You would hear things walking around at night

1875
01:29:02.560 --> 01:29:06.119
<v Speaker 2>that wasn't there. You felt this feeling of being watched

1876
01:29:06.159 --> 01:29:09.279
<v Speaker 2>all the time, and you got this horrible feeling. Sometimes

1877
01:29:09.359 --> 01:29:12.039
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't always negative, but there was a lot of

1878
01:29:12.039 --> 01:29:15.319
<v Speaker 2>times where it was like, there's something here and I

1879
01:29:15.479 --> 01:29:17.560
<v Speaker 2>was a very and I still am to this day

1880
01:29:17.600 --> 01:29:20.000
<v Speaker 2>scared of the dark. So my wife's not with me,

1881
01:29:20.079 --> 01:29:22.760
<v Speaker 2>I've got a light on, or I've got a podcast playing,

1882
01:29:22.840 --> 01:29:24.880
<v Speaker 2>the TV's on. You know, I can't be in the

1883
01:29:25.000 --> 01:29:27.880
<v Speaker 2>dark on my own. I know it sounds very sad,

1884
01:29:27.960 --> 01:29:32.520
<v Speaker 2>but it's just, yeah, I can't. I can't have seen

1885
01:29:32.520 --> 01:29:35.720
<v Speaker 2>too much weird stuff. So the big thing that happened

1886
01:29:35.720 --> 01:29:37.720
<v Speaker 2>in that house for me, which probably is the reason

1887
01:29:37.720 --> 01:29:41.159
<v Speaker 2>why I went down let's get freaky out, was because

1888
01:29:42.119 --> 01:29:44.000
<v Speaker 2>so me and my brother shared a room at the time,

1889
01:29:44.479 --> 01:29:47.439
<v Speaker 2>and we had bunk beds. I was on the top bunk,

1890
01:29:47.479 --> 01:29:49.680
<v Speaker 2>my brother was on the bottom bunk, and if I

1891
01:29:49.720 --> 01:29:51.159
<v Speaker 2>woke up during the night, I was out of that

1892
01:29:51.199 --> 01:29:53.319
<v Speaker 2>bed trying to get in with my mum and dad

1893
01:29:53.800 --> 01:29:56.479
<v Speaker 2>till like my early teens. You know, I know that

1894
01:29:56.600 --> 01:29:59.279
<v Speaker 2>sounds sad, but I was really scared all the time.

1895
01:29:59.359 --> 01:30:00.960
<v Speaker 2>Like if I woke up and there wasn't a light

1896
01:30:01.039 --> 01:30:04.279
<v Speaker 2>on panic, you know, I was. I was in beddle.

1897
01:30:04.319 --> 01:30:05.800
<v Speaker 2>I was terrible. I must have been a night where

1898
01:30:05.800 --> 01:30:08.199
<v Speaker 2>as a kid, and my mum and dad would normally

1899
01:30:08.239 --> 01:30:10.840
<v Speaker 2>just be like, God, get in. You know that sounds

1900
01:30:11.960 --> 01:30:13.560
<v Speaker 2>like it out with my kids if they do it.

1901
01:30:13.920 --> 01:30:18.319
<v Speaker 2>But one night I woke up and I just all

1902
01:30:18.319 --> 01:30:21.880
<v Speaker 2>the lights were off. You could still see the room

1903
01:30:21.960 --> 01:30:24.199
<v Speaker 2>because the street lights were coming through the window, and

1904
01:30:24.239 --> 01:30:26.199
<v Speaker 2>you could still see the layer out of the room.

1905
01:30:26.600 --> 01:30:30.039
<v Speaker 2>And I just remember I'm scared straight away because it's nighttime.

1906
01:30:30.079 --> 01:30:32.479
<v Speaker 2>And I woke up in the middle of the night,

1907
01:30:32.680 --> 01:30:35.239
<v Speaker 2>and I just remember looking down at my desk that

1908
01:30:35.439 --> 01:30:37.680
<v Speaker 2>was like in the corner of our room, and there

1909
01:30:37.760 --> 01:30:40.760
<v Speaker 2>was a man sitting there at the desk a full

1910
01:30:41.399 --> 01:30:43.720
<v Speaker 2>It was just a man. I wasn't thinking ghost or anything.

1911
01:30:43.800 --> 01:30:45.800
<v Speaker 2>I was just like, there's a man in my room.

1912
01:30:46.000 --> 01:30:49.920
<v Speaker 2>And I just remember screaming and just like mom, man,

1913
01:30:50.520 --> 01:30:53.399
<v Speaker 2>this dude was there. He wasn't moving, he was just

1914
01:30:53.439 --> 01:30:55.319
<v Speaker 2>sitting there at my desk and he was kind of

1915
01:30:55.399 --> 01:30:58.640
<v Speaker 2>sitting there with his head in his hands, kind of

1916
01:30:58.680 --> 01:31:01.640
<v Speaker 2>looking in my direction, but he didn't move, like he

1917
01:31:01.720 --> 01:31:05.720
<v Speaker 2>was just completely steal this man. And I just remember

1918
01:31:05.760 --> 01:31:08.279
<v Speaker 2>like looking at him and just like blinking and look

1919
01:31:08.319 --> 01:31:11.399
<v Speaker 2>and it's it's it's there. You know, no idea what

1920
01:31:11.479 --> 01:31:14.159
<v Speaker 2>it is, but it's there. And he kind of looked.

1921
01:31:14.239 --> 01:31:16.159
<v Speaker 2>When I talk about that and I describe what he

1922
01:31:16.199 --> 01:31:19.560
<v Speaker 2>looks like, it looked like William Shakespeare. I'm not saying

1923
01:31:19.600 --> 01:31:24.000
<v Speaker 2>that it was William Shakespeare. It was just that I

1924
01:31:24.039 --> 01:31:26.880
<v Speaker 2>had that long brown hair, like a little beard. He

1925
01:31:26.920 --> 01:31:29.119
<v Speaker 2>had like this brown suit on with like the white

1926
01:31:29.199 --> 01:31:31.079
<v Speaker 2>tough whatever you call it around his name. He just

1927
01:31:31.119 --> 01:31:35.000
<v Speaker 2>had that look, big brown boots and just looked like

1928
01:31:35.000 --> 01:31:39.000
<v Speaker 2>a very intimilating, scary dude. Damn, my mom's come in

1929
01:31:39.720 --> 01:31:43.159
<v Speaker 2>and this guy's still sitting there's just not moved at all.

1930
01:31:43.319 --> 01:31:44.159
<v Speaker 1>So she saw it.

1931
01:31:44.960 --> 01:31:48.520
<v Speaker 2>She didn't see it. She remembers this. She remembers me

1932
01:31:49.239 --> 01:31:51.600
<v Speaker 2>seeing this and I'm going, mom, there's a man and

1933
01:31:52.079 --> 01:31:55.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm pointing. I'm hysterical, and my mum's calming me down,

1934
01:31:55.479 --> 01:31:58.039
<v Speaker 2>and she's like staying with me. She's like, there's no

1935
01:31:58.079 --> 01:32:00.520
<v Speaker 2>one there. It's absolutely fine. She went I to where

1936
01:32:00.560 --> 01:32:02.520
<v Speaker 2>the man was. I don't know if she's gone through

1937
01:32:02.560 --> 01:32:04.279
<v Speaker 2>him or anything like that, but she's come back and

1938
01:32:04.319 --> 01:32:07.680
<v Speaker 2>she's like, there's nothing there. I can still see this dude.

1939
01:32:08.680 --> 01:32:11.640
<v Speaker 2>And I was about ten when this happened. Wow, and

1940
01:32:11.680 --> 01:32:14.399
<v Speaker 2>my mom my, mom was like getting a bit annoyed,

1941
01:32:14.520 --> 01:32:16.239
<v Speaker 2>Like she she'll probably listen back to this, and I

1942
01:32:16.319 --> 01:32:19.359
<v Speaker 2>always say this, She'll listen back to this, and she'll apologize.

1943
01:32:19.600 --> 01:32:22.479
<v Speaker 2>She'll always she listens to every podcast I do, and

1944
01:32:22.479 --> 01:32:24.479
<v Speaker 2>when I talk about this, she always brings me up

1945
01:32:24.800 --> 01:32:26.640
<v Speaker 2>and says sorry again. I'm like, Mommy, you haven't got

1946
01:32:26.640 --> 01:32:30.880
<v Speaker 2>to say sorry anymore. It's fine. Yeah, but she made

1947
01:32:30.880 --> 01:32:32.720
<v Speaker 2>me sad and she got quite angry with me, and

1948
01:32:32.760 --> 01:32:34.560
<v Speaker 2>she's like, you are staying in this room, you get

1949
01:32:34.560 --> 01:32:38.600
<v Speaker 2>your bell. I'm gonna be like it went along those lines. Yeah.

1950
01:32:38.640 --> 01:32:43.079
<v Speaker 2>I just remember going under my covers and just being terrified, sweating,

1951
01:32:43.800 --> 01:32:46.079
<v Speaker 2>and I just I kept looking and this dude was

1952
01:32:46.079 --> 01:32:49.760
<v Speaker 2>still there. Yeah, I damn, I disappeared. He didn't move,

1953
01:32:50.359 --> 01:32:51.920
<v Speaker 2>but it was just a solid. It was just like

1954
01:32:52.199 --> 01:32:55.119
<v Speaker 2>us now, you know, it was just like solid. And

1955
01:32:55.199 --> 01:32:57.439
<v Speaker 2>I just somehow I fell asleep that night. I don't

1956
01:32:57.439 --> 01:33:01.079
<v Speaker 2>know how. I was looking constantly and sweating and just

1957
01:33:01.119 --> 01:33:05.199
<v Speaker 2>a mess, crying, and I just remember waking up the

1958
01:33:05.239 --> 01:33:08.279
<v Speaker 2>next morning and he was gone. But the man was gone.

1959
01:33:09.039 --> 01:33:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Never saw that particular dude again. But for me that

1960
01:33:13.119 --> 01:33:16.960
<v Speaker 2>was like, this stuff is real. You know, he was real.

1961
01:33:17.039 --> 01:33:19.560
<v Speaker 2>I know my mom didn't see him. But other weird

1962
01:33:19.560 --> 01:33:22.640
<v Speaker 2>stuff happened in that particular area that I can tell

1963
01:33:22.680 --> 01:33:26.199
<v Speaker 2>you about. But for me, that something was there. Man,

1964
01:33:26.720 --> 01:33:29.720
<v Speaker 2>I never saw that particular spirit entity, whatever you call it.

1965
01:33:29.760 --> 01:33:33.000
<v Speaker 2>I never saw him again. Other weird stuff did happen, obviously.

1966
01:33:33.039 --> 01:33:37.199
<v Speaker 1>But you said there was a cemetery near your house, right.

1967
01:33:37.720 --> 01:33:40.439
<v Speaker 1>Was this a relatively older cemetery. Oh?

1968
01:33:40.520 --> 01:33:43.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it must have been a very old cemetery

1969
01:33:43.159 --> 01:33:46.560
<v Speaker 2>and it was very close. It was like two houses down.

1970
01:33:46.600 --> 01:33:48.840
<v Speaker 2>Behind that. There was like a little forested area as well,

1971
01:33:49.159 --> 01:33:51.760
<v Speaker 2>and then this cemetery was there. So possibly could it

1972
01:33:51.800 --> 01:33:54.600
<v Speaker 2>have been something that you know people some people say

1973
01:33:54.600 --> 01:33:58.479
<v Speaker 2>cemeteries are like gateways, portals in and out. Obviously that's

1974
01:33:58.479 --> 01:34:00.239
<v Speaker 2>where bodies are laid to rest. Could it be something

1975
01:34:00.239 --> 01:34:02.359
<v Speaker 2>to do with that, something to do with the forest.

1976
01:34:03.039 --> 01:34:06.279
<v Speaker 2>There was the lady that we bought the house of

1977
01:34:06.920 --> 01:34:09.680
<v Speaker 2>my mum and dad. Do think it's possible that the

1978
01:34:09.840 --> 01:34:14.520
<v Speaker 2>man died in the house that the owner Again, this

1979
01:34:14.520 --> 01:34:16.840
<v Speaker 2>guy looked like William Shakespeare. I don't know if there

1980
01:34:16.840 --> 01:34:18.640
<v Speaker 2>was anything to do with that man if you look

1981
01:34:18.680 --> 01:34:21.399
<v Speaker 2>like William Shakespeare. He was a doctor apparently, and his

1982
01:34:21.680 --> 01:34:24.199
<v Speaker 2>office was directly below our room.

1983
01:34:24.399 --> 01:34:28.159
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow. So yeah, So would you say that you

1984
01:34:28.159 --> 01:34:31.760
<v Speaker 1>grew up in a relatively religious household or not so much?

1985
01:34:32.359 --> 01:34:35.760
<v Speaker 2>When I mean, I'm a Christian, I believe in God.

1986
01:34:36.479 --> 01:34:39.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm not overly religious, like I'm not like always in

1987
01:34:39.319 --> 01:34:42.000
<v Speaker 2>church and stuff. I'm just just a belief that I've

1988
01:34:42.039 --> 01:34:42.600
<v Speaker 2>always had.

1989
01:34:42.880 --> 01:34:45.159
<v Speaker 1>So grown up, your parents y'all went to church or

1990
01:34:45.239 --> 01:34:47.000
<v Speaker 1>just kind of on Christians, not.

1991
01:34:47.079 --> 01:34:49.399
<v Speaker 2>Like not like every Sunday. But we were all we

1992
01:34:49.439 --> 01:34:52.399
<v Speaker 2>were all we were all spiritually open and stuff. You know.

1993
01:34:52.439 --> 01:34:55.399
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't like a big talking point all the time.

1994
01:34:55.439 --> 01:34:57.439
<v Speaker 2>It was just something that was naturally there, if that

1995
01:34:57.479 --> 01:35:01.680
<v Speaker 2>makes sense. It wasn't like we openly like went to

1996
01:35:01.720 --> 01:35:04.239
<v Speaker 2>the church every weekend. I did. I was given a

1997
01:35:04.239 --> 01:35:06.279
<v Speaker 2>Bible when I was first born, which I've still got

1998
01:35:06.399 --> 01:35:10.000
<v Speaker 2>next to me right now, which's always there. But yeah,

1999
01:35:10.039 --> 01:35:11.640
<v Speaker 2>we wasn't like overly religious.

2000
01:35:11.800 --> 01:35:12.199
<v Speaker 1>I got you.

2001
01:35:12.399 --> 01:35:15.039
<v Speaker 2>But it wasn't like my mom and dad didn't ever

2002
01:35:15.079 --> 01:35:17.359
<v Speaker 2>say that ghosts and things like that are not real.

2003
01:35:17.720 --> 01:35:19.840
<v Speaker 2>We was never told that. You know obviously that your

2004
01:35:19.840 --> 01:35:21.560
<v Speaker 2>mom and dad would saying, you know, munsters are not

2005
01:35:21.560 --> 01:35:24.199
<v Speaker 2>real and stuff, but we was always very open about

2006
01:35:24.520 --> 01:35:28.760
<v Speaker 2>the supernatural and religion and stuff. I got you.

2007
01:35:28.800 --> 01:35:31.880
<v Speaker 1>So I'm just as I'm hearing this story, I had

2008
01:35:31.920 --> 01:35:34.199
<v Speaker 1>something similar happening with me growing up. But I grew

2009
01:35:34.239 --> 01:35:36.880
<v Speaker 1>up in the Bible Belts and in the United States.

2010
01:35:36.920 --> 01:35:39.399
<v Speaker 1>Pretty much everyone here, well not so much these days,

2011
01:35:39.399 --> 01:35:42.920
<v Speaker 1>but especially in the early nineties, everyone here was some

2012
01:35:43.159 --> 01:35:47.079
<v Speaker 1>kind of Christian right Louisiana's primarily Catholic, but you know,

2013
01:35:47.119 --> 01:35:50.520
<v Speaker 1>it's started to have its own nuances and things. So yeah,

2014
01:35:50.600 --> 01:35:52.680
<v Speaker 1>my mom would have basically told me to start praying

2015
01:35:52.680 --> 01:35:54.720
<v Speaker 1>it away, you know. And that's why I was asking,

2016
01:35:54.800 --> 01:35:56.960
<v Speaker 1>like the type of household you grew up in when

2017
01:35:56.960 --> 01:35:58.800
<v Speaker 1>your mom saw this, so she's just like, okay, it's

2018
01:35:58.840 --> 01:36:01.359
<v Speaker 1>it's you're fine, it's a or she like, well, you

2019
01:36:01.439 --> 01:36:03.680
<v Speaker 1>just need a call on Jesus, Like I don't know,

2020
01:36:04.039 --> 01:36:06.520
<v Speaker 1>like what the methods. It was never like.

2021
01:36:06.479 --> 01:36:09.439
<v Speaker 2>That, really was never like that. I mean, to be honest,

2022
01:36:09.479 --> 01:36:13.199
<v Speaker 2>I used praying myself now, but back then, I mean,

2023
01:36:13.479 --> 01:36:16.079
<v Speaker 2>I've always been like praying and stuff, but not that.

2024
01:36:16.600 --> 01:36:18.880
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't like, let's pray this away. It was like

2025
01:36:18.960 --> 01:36:22.960
<v Speaker 2>that kind of but my brother as well in the

2026
01:36:23.000 --> 01:36:26.319
<v Speaker 2>same spot. So my brother's a lot more skeptical to

2027
01:36:26.439 --> 01:36:28.680
<v Speaker 2>me to this day, like he believes and stuff, but

2028
01:36:28.720 --> 01:36:31.600
<v Speaker 2>he's like very more. He says, it could be my

2029
01:36:31.640 --> 01:36:34.079
<v Speaker 2>imagination could have had a bad dream, which it could

2030
01:36:34.119 --> 01:36:37.359
<v Speaker 2>have been. He fully, he will fully tell you that

2031
01:36:37.439 --> 01:36:39.159
<v Speaker 2>the house was weird and we had a lot of

2032
01:36:39.199 --> 01:36:42.880
<v Speaker 2>weird experiences and weird vibes. He woke up one night,

2033
01:36:43.079 --> 01:36:45.279
<v Speaker 2>so he was below me in the bunk bed in

2034
01:36:45.359 --> 01:36:48.880
<v Speaker 2>the same spot. He saw two red eyes and he

2035
01:36:48.920 --> 01:36:52.199
<v Speaker 2>said these red eyes were like floating towards him, and

2036
01:36:52.239 --> 01:36:54.960
<v Speaker 2>he said they just disappeared, and that was that was

2037
01:36:54.960 --> 01:36:57.119
<v Speaker 2>something that he visually saw in that he saw her

2038
01:36:57.119 --> 01:37:01.560
<v Speaker 2>in the house. I'm I mean because people say to me, like,

2039
01:37:01.600 --> 01:37:03.920
<v Speaker 2>it sounds demonic what you experienced in that house.

2040
01:37:05.319 --> 01:37:07.720
<v Speaker 1>Some yes, some know so like I'm not going to

2041
01:37:07.800 --> 01:37:09.680
<v Speaker 1>go way into it, but I did have a demonic

2042
01:37:09.760 --> 01:37:12.439
<v Speaker 1>experience from the time I was like five into my

2043
01:37:12.520 --> 01:37:15.279
<v Speaker 1>early teens and off and on. But the only reason

2044
01:37:15.319 --> 01:37:17.199
<v Speaker 1>why I know it was a demon was because I

2045
01:37:17.199 --> 01:37:20.520
<v Speaker 1>did a lot of research into demonology and into what

2046
01:37:20.600 --> 01:37:22.960
<v Speaker 1>these actually look like, what they actually manifest like with

2047
01:37:23.319 --> 01:37:25.640
<v Speaker 1>these types of things. I was able to confirm that

2048
01:37:25.800 --> 01:37:28.760
<v Speaker 1>with other shit too. But as far as ghosts and

2049
01:37:28.800 --> 01:37:31.920
<v Speaker 1>spirits go, a lot of people I've talked to will

2050
01:37:31.960 --> 01:37:33.720
<v Speaker 1>say that, oh, I don't believe in ghosts. I believe

2051
01:37:33.720 --> 01:37:36.880
<v Speaker 1>in demons, right, And to be honest, I for the

2052
01:37:36.880 --> 01:37:39.399
<v Speaker 1>majority of my life I would have classified myself into

2053
01:37:39.439 --> 01:37:43.119
<v Speaker 1>that regard. These days, I'm putting it somewhere in the gray,

2054
01:37:43.520 --> 01:37:46.800
<v Speaker 1>you know. And I understand that demons do and can

2055
01:37:46.920 --> 01:37:49.399
<v Speaker 1>present themselves in many ways. They can shape shift and

2056
01:37:49.439 --> 01:37:54.079
<v Speaker 1>all this stuff, and it's possible that's accurate, but there's

2057
01:37:54.079 --> 01:37:57.680
<v Speaker 1>also I think there's something inherent with so the Native

2058
01:37:57.680 --> 01:38:00.600
<v Speaker 1>Americans believed that if you spilled too more much blood

2059
01:38:00.680 --> 01:38:02.880
<v Speaker 1>on the ground, which is why certain battles that they did,

2060
01:38:02.960 --> 01:38:05.760
<v Speaker 1>they wouldn't actually like they did what's called like count

2061
01:38:05.840 --> 01:38:07.399
<v Speaker 1>and coup. They would hit them with a stick, but

2062
01:38:07.439 --> 01:38:10.319
<v Speaker 1>they wouldn't stab them because they believe that if the

2063
01:38:10.399 --> 01:38:13.279
<v Speaker 1>earth absorbed too much blood, then that section of the

2064
01:38:13.319 --> 01:38:15.960
<v Speaker 1>earth would develop a thirst for it, right, and then

2065
01:38:16.000 --> 01:38:19.399
<v Speaker 1>that place would be imbued with spirits, but not in

2066
01:38:19.439 --> 01:38:23.199
<v Speaker 1>a reverence way, in an evil and negative way, right.

2067
01:38:23.239 --> 01:38:26.199
<v Speaker 1>And I think that there's some nuances to not just

2068
01:38:26.239 --> 01:38:28.640
<v Speaker 1>the Native American culture, but other cultures. You can go

2069
01:38:28.680 --> 01:38:33.039
<v Speaker 1>to these battlegrounds for ancient battlegrounds and even the American

2070
01:38:33.039 --> 01:38:34.560
<v Speaker 1>Civil War, Like there's no way you can go to

2071
01:38:34.600 --> 01:38:37.920
<v Speaker 1>Gettysburg and not get some sort of a spiritual vibe

2072
01:38:37.960 --> 01:38:41.119
<v Speaker 1>from the place when there was thousands and thousands of

2073
01:38:41.199 --> 01:38:43.800
<v Speaker 1>dudes that lost their lives there in a couple of days.

2074
01:38:43.880 --> 01:38:45.880
<v Speaker 1>Like that's there's no way there was that type of

2075
01:38:46.199 --> 01:38:50.079
<v Speaker 1>physical spiritual exchange without it having some sort of a

2076
01:38:50.199 --> 01:38:53.399
<v Speaker 1>resonance in the area itself today. So as far as

2077
01:38:53.600 --> 01:38:56.279
<v Speaker 1>ghosts and spirits goes, I may not be a full

2078
01:38:56.319 --> 01:38:59.560
<v Speaker 1>tilt believer, but I'm definitely putting it like there's got

2079
01:38:59.560 --> 01:39:01.000
<v Speaker 1>to be some thing there for sure.

2080
01:39:01.079 --> 01:39:03.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's kind of what we're saying with

2081
01:39:03.239 --> 01:39:06.279
<v Speaker 2>the UFO phenomena. It's like the same thing where there's

2082
01:39:06.399 --> 01:39:08.279
<v Speaker 2>I think there's a lot of different things going on.

2083
01:39:08.840 --> 01:39:11.680
<v Speaker 2>I think sometimes there could be a trapped energy. Maybe

2084
01:39:11.720 --> 01:39:13.600
<v Speaker 2>what I saw was a trapped energy. You know, he

2085
01:39:13.640 --> 01:39:17.439
<v Speaker 2>didn't move, he didn't blink. Maybe he was just a

2086
01:39:17.560 --> 01:39:22.760
<v Speaker 2>still bit of an image of energy. The forces aligned

2087
01:39:22.760 --> 01:39:24.560
<v Speaker 2>for whatever reason I could see him at that moment.

2088
01:39:24.680 --> 01:39:26.720
<v Speaker 2>Don't know, it's I know it's weird because my mom

2089
01:39:26.760 --> 01:39:29.319
<v Speaker 2>didn't see him. I don't know, but I do think

2090
01:39:29.359 --> 01:39:32.279
<v Speaker 2>there is a lot of different things going on that

2091
01:39:32.319 --> 01:39:35.800
<v Speaker 2>we all put in the ghost and these things are entities.

2092
01:39:35.800 --> 01:39:38.039
<v Speaker 2>We don't really know what they are. And I think

2093
01:39:38.079 --> 01:39:40.439
<v Speaker 2>there's there's a number of there could be demons that

2094
01:39:40.479 --> 01:39:44.000
<v Speaker 2>are these are demons in some cases, but in other cases,

2095
01:39:44.640 --> 01:39:46.640
<v Speaker 2>is it just a trapped energy, is it something else?

2096
01:39:46.720 --> 01:39:49.600
<v Speaker 2>Is it something that's living in another realm that's kind

2097
01:39:49.600 --> 01:39:51.840
<v Speaker 2>of interacting with us. I think there's a number of

2098
01:39:51.840 --> 01:39:52.479
<v Speaker 2>things going on.

2099
01:39:53.600 --> 01:39:57.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've had my own weird experiences throughout my life,

2100
01:39:57.560 --> 01:39:59.960
<v Speaker 3>and I, like you, I don't like the dark either

2101
01:40:00.239 --> 01:40:03.960
<v Speaker 3>very much. And the one house I didn't. So we

2102
01:40:04.039 --> 01:40:07.079
<v Speaker 3>moved to a farmhouse and the people had built the

2103
01:40:07.119 --> 01:40:09.279
<v Speaker 3>farmhouse and they had their family had owned the land

2104
01:40:09.319 --> 01:40:11.680
<v Speaker 3>for a long time and stuff like that. And the

2105
01:40:12.640 --> 01:40:14.960
<v Speaker 3>old man actually passed away in the house. The wife

2106
01:40:15.039 --> 01:40:16.800
<v Speaker 3>is the one that sold it and all the things.

2107
01:40:17.319 --> 01:40:19.039
<v Speaker 3>And there would be times when I would come home

2108
01:40:19.039 --> 01:40:21.279
<v Speaker 3>because I started working really young, and I would come

2109
01:40:21.279 --> 01:40:24.439
<v Speaker 3>home late from you know, working, and I just would

2110
01:40:24.520 --> 01:40:28.239
<v Speaker 3>have this feeling or I would see things move. There

2111
01:40:28.279 --> 01:40:30.800
<v Speaker 3>was there was a spot in my room. That just

2112
01:40:30.880 --> 01:40:33.399
<v Speaker 3>creepd me out to know tomorrow. I ended up getting

2113
01:40:33.399 --> 01:40:36.199
<v Speaker 3>a black cat, and it was interesting. My cat would

2114
01:40:36.239 --> 01:40:40.399
<v Speaker 3>consistently stare at that spot all the time at night.

2115
01:40:40.439 --> 01:40:43.000
<v Speaker 3>When I would be I would get this like chill

2116
01:40:43.079 --> 01:40:45.159
<v Speaker 3>up my spine kind of a feeling. I'd be in

2117
01:40:45.159 --> 01:40:48.199
<v Speaker 3>my bathroom because my bathroom attached, and I would get

2118
01:40:48.199 --> 01:40:51.000
<v Speaker 3>the feeling and I'm just like okay, and then i

2119
01:40:51.039 --> 01:40:53.800
<v Speaker 3>would walk out and my cat's just staring at that

2120
01:40:53.840 --> 01:40:57.199
<v Speaker 3>spot every time, and it's like, okay, well, you know,

2121
01:40:57.439 --> 01:41:00.319
<v Speaker 3>I'm just gonna I used to sleep with a CD

2122
01:41:00.399 --> 01:41:03.199
<v Speaker 3>players on it, like my you know, headphones on and stuff.

2123
01:41:03.199 --> 01:41:05.640
<v Speaker 3>Because I didn't I would hear weird stuff and so

2124
01:41:05.720 --> 01:41:07.399
<v Speaker 3>I just would start to sleep with those on so

2125
01:41:07.439 --> 01:41:10.800
<v Speaker 3>I didn't have to hear it. And I'm really weird.

2126
01:41:10.840 --> 01:41:14.800
<v Speaker 3>I can't stand the silence. It like it really bothers

2127
01:41:14.840 --> 01:41:18.560
<v Speaker 3>me to be silent. I just can't handle it. It's

2128
01:41:18.840 --> 01:41:21.600
<v Speaker 3>it's a multitude of reasons, but it also creeps me out,

2129
01:41:21.760 --> 01:41:24.600
<v Speaker 3>like I'm just waiting for something to happen. So but

2130
01:41:24.640 --> 01:41:27.239
<v Speaker 3>I've had lots of different experiences. But I also don't

2131
01:41:27.760 --> 01:41:30.079
<v Speaker 3>I think that there is spirits. I think that there

2132
01:41:30.159 --> 01:41:33.199
<v Speaker 3>is potentially demons. I think there's good and evil, and

2133
01:41:33.239 --> 01:41:37.520
<v Speaker 3>there there's trap spirits. I think that there's multiple dimensions

2134
01:41:37.560 --> 01:41:39.680
<v Speaker 3>potentially that are happening at the same time that we're

2135
01:41:39.720 --> 01:41:42.560
<v Speaker 3>seeing a reflection of what's going on on the other side,

2136
01:41:42.640 --> 01:41:45.000
<v Speaker 3>and maybe that's what we're seeing coming in and out.

2137
01:41:46.399 --> 01:41:48.600
<v Speaker 3>I think there's just a lot of different stuff that's

2138
01:41:48.640 --> 01:41:51.399
<v Speaker 3>happening all at once that we try to put into

2139
01:41:51.439 --> 01:41:55.000
<v Speaker 3>a box, but we can't classify because it's all different

2140
01:41:55.159 --> 01:41:58.319
<v Speaker 3>and everyone's experiences are different. But there is something to

2141
01:41:58.439 --> 01:42:00.960
<v Speaker 3>the children that are able to see. And a lot

2142
01:42:01.000 --> 01:42:03.560
<v Speaker 3>of people ignore their kids when they talk about stuff,

2143
01:42:04.039 --> 01:42:06.840
<v Speaker 3>and I do not. I listened to my children because

2144
01:42:06.880 --> 01:42:10.880
<v Speaker 3>we had a situation where we had I would say,

2145
01:42:10.920 --> 01:42:13.479
<v Speaker 3>it was this really creepy entity. Whatever it was, it

2146
01:42:13.520 --> 01:42:18.039
<v Speaker 3>made everybody feel icky and we ended up I ended

2147
01:42:18.119 --> 01:42:21.439
<v Speaker 3>up having like people come in blessed space and like different.

2148
01:42:21.680 --> 01:42:23.560
<v Speaker 3>I was like, look, I don't care what religion, all

2149
01:42:23.600 --> 01:42:26.479
<v Speaker 3>religions at this point, like we saged it my uncle

2150
01:42:26.520 --> 01:42:29.039
<v Speaker 3>Bata gargoyle and stuff, and we put it inside of

2151
01:42:29.039 --> 01:42:31.800
<v Speaker 3>it in his room and like it actually helped, honestly,

2152
01:42:31.840 --> 01:42:34.520
<v Speaker 3>it eventually went away and stuff, But It's one of

2153
01:42:34.600 --> 01:42:36.840
<v Speaker 3>those things of like I don't know what you are,

2154
01:42:36.880 --> 01:42:40.800
<v Speaker 3>so we're just gonna throw everything at you, and like, look,

2155
01:42:40.800 --> 01:42:43.520
<v Speaker 3>I'll have a priest, I'll have anybody and everybody that

2156
01:42:43.560 --> 01:42:43.960
<v Speaker 3>will come.

2157
01:42:44.039 --> 01:42:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Like it's like that scene from The Mummy. Little boy

2158
01:42:46.039 --> 01:42:49.000
<v Speaker 1>just started holding up every medallion like I don't.

2159
01:42:49.079 --> 01:42:51.359
<v Speaker 3>I don't know one of them is gonna work. So

2160
01:42:51.439 --> 01:42:54.800
<v Speaker 3>like it, you know, but I don't. I really particularly

2161
01:42:54.880 --> 01:42:58.760
<v Speaker 3>don't engage in anything that I see. I don't. Uh.

2162
01:42:59.079 --> 01:43:01.199
<v Speaker 3>My grandma always would tell me, don't give voice to it,

2163
01:43:01.199 --> 01:43:04.279
<v Speaker 3>because then you open the door. And so even if

2164
01:43:04.279 --> 01:43:07.399
<v Speaker 3>I do see stuff, Yeah, if I see stuff, even

2165
01:43:07.399 --> 01:43:10.680
<v Speaker 3>in my own house, or I feel like the bed dip.

2166
01:43:10.800 --> 01:43:13.680
<v Speaker 3>I hate that, by the way, when you feel something

2167
01:43:13.880 --> 01:43:16.960
<v Speaker 3>dip into your bed and like you can literally feel

2168
01:43:16.960 --> 01:43:18.640
<v Speaker 3>something moving towards.

2169
01:43:18.239 --> 01:43:20.319
<v Speaker 1>You or some sitting You've never experienced that my life.

2170
01:43:20.399 --> 01:43:24.760
<v Speaker 3>It is the most gut soul like sinking feeling because

2171
01:43:24.760 --> 01:43:27.520
<v Speaker 3>you know something is present next to you. But it's

2172
01:43:27.560 --> 01:43:28.640
<v Speaker 3>like I am not.

2173
01:43:29.000 --> 01:43:31.800
<v Speaker 1>I would start shooting everything in that moment.

2174
01:43:31.880 --> 01:43:34.279
<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, it happens to me. Not I wouldn't

2175
01:43:34.279 --> 01:43:37.319
<v Speaker 3>say quite often, but at least a few times.

2176
01:43:37.039 --> 01:43:37.680
<v Speaker 1>A year what.

2177
01:43:38.239 --> 01:43:40.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've had it. I've had it happened to me

2178
01:43:40.479 --> 01:43:44.239
<v Speaker 3>since I was probably about like eight years old.

2179
01:43:44.840 --> 01:43:47.239
<v Speaker 1>At least you sleep with a gun near you, jesus,

2180
01:43:47.239 --> 01:43:49.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm surprised I'll see bullet holes in your mattress.

2181
01:43:50.000 --> 01:43:52.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm used to it by now, like I really am,

2182
01:43:52.159 --> 01:43:54.560
<v Speaker 3>but like it's it's one of those things where you

2183
01:43:55.000 --> 01:43:56.920
<v Speaker 3>and I try to get a picture of it one

2184
01:43:57.000 --> 01:43:59.720
<v Speaker 3>night because I wanted to show somebody that I wasn't

2185
01:43:59.760 --> 01:44:04.359
<v Speaker 3>create because there's an actual indent into the bed and

2186
01:44:04.760 --> 01:44:07.159
<v Speaker 3>it just goes womp and I can feel it. And

2187
01:44:07.199 --> 01:44:09.199
<v Speaker 3>I've had it to where my blanket has moved and

2188
01:44:09.239 --> 01:44:12.359
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, not fucking today, Satan, I'm not doing this,

2189
01:44:12.640 --> 01:44:15.560
<v Speaker 3>like and I just completely ignore it. And I've had

2190
01:44:15.600 --> 01:44:17.520
<v Speaker 3>it to where like I hear stuff in the house

2191
01:44:18.039 --> 01:44:20.560
<v Speaker 3>and like there's I can see movement out of like

2192
01:44:20.600 --> 01:44:23.159
<v Speaker 3>my peripheral and i can see something like move across

2193
01:44:23.159 --> 01:44:26.319
<v Speaker 3>the room and I'm like, nope, I'm not engaging with

2194
01:44:26.399 --> 01:44:28.399
<v Speaker 3>you at all. And I had dogs for a while

2195
01:44:28.760 --> 01:44:31.520
<v Speaker 3>and the dogs would sit and they would stare into

2196
01:44:31.560 --> 01:44:35.399
<v Speaker 3>a room and bark a dark rooms, just going ballistic,

2197
01:44:35.439 --> 01:44:38.159
<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, like, we're just gonna ignore it. We're

2198
01:44:38.159 --> 01:44:41.800
<v Speaker 3>not gonna we're not gonna participate with this bullshit. Like

2199
01:44:42.359 --> 01:44:45.119
<v Speaker 3>and so you know, with my children, if they say

2200
01:44:45.119 --> 01:44:47.439
<v Speaker 3>that they are seeing something or they're struggling with sleep

2201
01:44:47.479 --> 01:44:50.079
<v Speaker 3>or anything like that, I you know, I believe them

2202
01:44:50.119 --> 01:44:52.359
<v Speaker 3>because I'm like, well, whatever it is, we're just not

2203
01:44:52.439 --> 01:44:55.319
<v Speaker 3>going to we're not gonna give it a voice. So

2204
01:44:55.399 --> 01:44:58.359
<v Speaker 3>that way, I've found, at least for me, it doesn't

2205
01:44:58.399 --> 01:45:00.960
<v Speaker 3>bother me as much. If I you pay attention and

2206
01:45:01.000 --> 01:45:04.119
<v Speaker 3>I start getting like really agitated, things get pick up

2207
01:45:04.159 --> 01:45:07.199
<v Speaker 3>more and more and more. So I haven't happened more consistently,

2208
01:45:07.479 --> 01:45:10.279
<v Speaker 3>but if I use all your if I just ignore it,

2209
01:45:10.279 --> 01:45:12.800
<v Speaker 3>and I'm just like I I've actually one time I

2210
01:45:12.800 --> 01:45:14.840
<v Speaker 3>did get like I was tired. I was dealing with

2211
01:45:14.840 --> 01:45:18.199
<v Speaker 3>a baby, put the baby down, and I saw movement

2212
01:45:18.279 --> 01:45:20.800
<v Speaker 3>across like it looked like people. It looked like black

2213
01:45:20.840 --> 01:45:25.000
<v Speaker 3>shadows walking and I was like great, and so I

2214
01:45:25.079 --> 01:45:27.359
<v Speaker 3>laid down and I felt the bed dip and I

2215
01:45:27.439 --> 01:45:31.159
<v Speaker 3>was like, you know what, you bitch, I'm tired, So no,

2216
01:45:31.399 --> 01:45:34.319
<v Speaker 3>we're not doing this today now. Once I said that, though,

2217
01:45:34.439 --> 01:45:37.840
<v Speaker 3>I had issues for like an entire month afterwards, and

2218
01:45:37.880 --> 01:45:39.560
<v Speaker 3>I had like sage the house, and I had.

2219
01:45:39.439 --> 01:45:41.520
<v Speaker 1>To do all the next time, I'm just like, say, Jesus,

2220
01:45:41.600 --> 01:45:43.920
<v Speaker 1>they have to run with that name. It's a whole thing.

2221
01:45:44.239 --> 01:45:47.560
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I've prayed before, like I've I've prayed out loud,

2222
01:45:47.640 --> 01:45:49.520
<v Speaker 3>I've done all sorts of stuff, and now it just

2223
01:45:49.880 --> 01:45:52.840
<v Speaker 3>it just depends though. But I've also felt my grandma's

2224
01:45:52.880 --> 01:45:56.199
<v Speaker 3>presence and like I've smelled her. That's the first thing

2225
01:45:56.319 --> 01:45:59.439
<v Speaker 3>that happens is I smell her before anything, and then

2226
01:45:59.520 --> 01:46:03.520
<v Speaker 3>I feel a sense of like love, and I'm like, okay,

2227
01:46:03.560 --> 01:46:05.760
<v Speaker 3>but even that, I'm really leery because I'm like, I

2228
01:46:05.760 --> 01:46:08.359
<v Speaker 3>don't want to get tricked into something. Yeah, So even that,

2229
01:46:08.479 --> 01:46:10.479
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, you know, if it is her, like I'm

2230
01:46:10.560 --> 01:46:12.840
<v Speaker 3>really happy that you're here, but I'm not. Also, I'm

2231
01:46:12.920 --> 01:46:15.279
<v Speaker 3>not going to voice it, because that was one thing

2232
01:46:15.319 --> 01:46:17.880
<v Speaker 3>she always said. She's like, she's like, I've seen things

2233
01:46:17.920 --> 01:46:20.600
<v Speaker 3>a lot throughout my life. Don't ever talk to them,

2234
01:46:20.640 --> 01:46:23.199
<v Speaker 3>regardless if you think it's something positive or not. And

2235
01:46:23.239 --> 01:46:26.159
<v Speaker 3>so I don't. I don't participate in like ouigi boards

2236
01:46:26.239 --> 01:46:29.520
<v Speaker 3>or anything like that, and you know, and I don't

2237
01:46:29.600 --> 01:46:31.800
<v Speaker 3>care what other people do. I just personally don't want

2238
01:46:31.840 --> 01:46:34.039
<v Speaker 3>to bring that towards me, because I feel like if

2239
01:46:34.119 --> 01:46:37.560
<v Speaker 3>I was to open that door, once that door is open,

2240
01:46:37.760 --> 01:46:40.119
<v Speaker 3>it's gonna be real rough for me to close it.

2241
01:46:40.159 --> 01:46:43.520
<v Speaker 3>And I've always been really leary for myself about that.

2242
01:46:43.520 --> 01:46:45.760
<v Speaker 1>That's always been my advice to people. And Ouigi boards

2243
01:46:45.760 --> 01:46:47.359
<v Speaker 1>are an example of it. Don't get me wrong, But

2244
01:46:47.439 --> 01:46:50.079
<v Speaker 1>like of the side of everything we understand, there is

2245
01:46:50.119 --> 01:46:52.039
<v Speaker 1>a side of good and a side of evil. Right.

2246
01:46:52.079 --> 01:46:54.520
<v Speaker 1>That's that's not like a hot take. And whether you

2247
01:46:54.520 --> 01:46:57.800
<v Speaker 1>want to put that to a Christian ideology, a Vedic ideology,

2248
01:46:58.199 --> 01:47:00.600
<v Speaker 1>a pagan it doesn't matter. There's good hit and bad

2249
01:47:00.600 --> 01:47:03.119
<v Speaker 1>shit that we can't see all around us at all times.

2250
01:47:03.399 --> 01:47:06.479
<v Speaker 1>That's just the way this goes, right. One of these

2251
01:47:06.520 --> 01:47:10.520
<v Speaker 1>sides is clawing to get into our realm and the

2252
01:47:10.560 --> 01:47:13.680
<v Speaker 1>other side is waiting for you to get to theirs. Right,

2253
01:47:14.039 --> 01:47:16.800
<v Speaker 1>the side of good is welcoming with open arms. The

2254
01:47:16.880 --> 01:47:19.760
<v Speaker 1>side of bad is fighting to get in your face.

2255
01:47:19.840 --> 01:47:22.079
<v Speaker 1>So Ouiji boards and things like you're talking about how

2256
01:47:22.079 --> 01:47:24.159
<v Speaker 1>you acknowledge it and so you open a door to it,

2257
01:47:25.079 --> 01:47:27.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm with you, something's gonna step the fuck out. Yeah,

2258
01:47:27.880 --> 01:47:28.239
<v Speaker 1>for sure.

2259
01:47:29.000 --> 01:47:31.079
<v Speaker 3>Have you guys heard the theory about the welcome, Matt.

2260
01:47:31.439 --> 01:47:34.359
<v Speaker 1>I haven't. I don't think that that's how vampires can

2261
01:47:34.399 --> 01:47:35.520
<v Speaker 1>just walk up into a home.

2262
01:47:35.680 --> 01:47:39.720
<v Speaker 3>Not about vampires, though, it's about any spirit's entities anything.

2263
01:47:40.239 --> 01:47:43.239
<v Speaker 3>Is that you're giving an acknowledgment to allow them to

2264
01:47:43.239 --> 01:47:45.439
<v Speaker 3>come in. I don't know, because I feel like you

2265
01:47:45.439 --> 01:47:47.479
<v Speaker 3>would probably you talk all to a lot more people

2266
01:47:47.479 --> 01:47:48.640
<v Speaker 3>than I do about this.

2267
01:47:48.840 --> 01:47:51.600
<v Speaker 2>I have heard that fairy. I'm saying that. I'm trying

2268
01:47:51.600 --> 01:47:52.960
<v Speaker 2>to think of my mouth. We have got a mat,

2269
01:47:53.000 --> 01:47:54.439
<v Speaker 2>so I don't know if it's as welcome. I need

2270
01:47:54.479 --> 01:47:54.960
<v Speaker 2>to check out.

2271
01:47:55.039 --> 01:47:59.119
<v Speaker 1>Actually, off, I was just thinking that, which I have

2272
01:47:59.199 --> 01:48:02.079
<v Speaker 1>seen those mats, and I would if I didn't have

2273
01:48:02.079 --> 01:48:05.119
<v Speaker 1>a small child that's learning to read, it would repeat like, yeah,

2274
01:48:05.159 --> 01:48:08.520
<v Speaker 1>that would be the vibe. But yeah, that is.

2275
01:48:08.560 --> 01:48:10.840
<v Speaker 2>Saying I'd say quite a lot on the show. I

2276
01:48:10.880 --> 01:48:12.880
<v Speaker 2>didn't make the saying, but I don't think I did anyway.

2277
01:48:12.960 --> 01:48:15.239
<v Speaker 2>But you look into the paranormal, it looks back and

2278
01:48:15.319 --> 01:48:18.800
<v Speaker 2>I really believe that. And as much as I love this,

2279
01:48:18.960 --> 01:48:20.640
<v Speaker 2>and I do obviously love it, I do a podcast

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01:48:20.680 --> 01:48:22.520
<v Speaker 2>about it. I'm talking about it all the time. I

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01:48:22.560 --> 01:48:26.000
<v Speaker 2>talk to different people. Some people that see what you've

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01:48:26.039 --> 01:48:28.520
<v Speaker 2>experienced with like the bad thing. For example. Some people

2283
01:48:28.560 --> 01:48:30.920
<v Speaker 2>will see that as a positive, that's like a spirit guide.

2284
01:48:31.279 --> 01:48:33.840
<v Speaker 2>Some people see that as a negative. I kind of

2285
01:48:33.880 --> 01:48:35.439
<v Speaker 2>have to be in the middle because I think that's

2286
01:48:35.479 --> 01:48:37.720
<v Speaker 2>how Let's Get a Freaky works. I just want to

2287
01:48:37.720 --> 01:48:41.319
<v Speaker 2>hear everyone's experiences, and I'm kind of in the middle

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01:48:41.359 --> 01:48:42.920
<v Speaker 2>with it as well. I don't think I don't think

2289
01:48:42.960 --> 01:48:44.600
<v Speaker 2>we should be messing with this stuff. I think it's

2290
01:48:44.680 --> 01:48:49.359
<v Speaker 2>very dangerous. I wouldn't do wuigiballs personally myself or anything

2291
01:48:49.399 --> 01:48:51.880
<v Speaker 2>like that when I started Let's Get Freaky. I mean,

2292
01:48:51.920 --> 01:48:54.319
<v Speaker 2>obviously I've had a lot of experiences throughout my life,

2293
01:48:54.479 --> 01:48:58.079
<v Speaker 2>which is what led me to be involved in the paranormal.

2294
01:48:58.960 --> 01:49:00.800
<v Speaker 2>But when I started Let's Get I was noticing a

2295
01:49:00.880 --> 01:49:04.279
<v Speaker 2>lot of things happening around the house like that. And maybe,

2296
01:49:04.399 --> 01:49:06.680
<v Speaker 2>as you say, you manifest this stuff, maybe if you're

2297
01:49:06.680 --> 01:49:09.640
<v Speaker 2>thinking about it all the time, and our imaginations can

2298
01:49:09.720 --> 01:49:12.319
<v Speaker 2>be wild and it can lead us to things undred percent.

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01:49:12.800 --> 01:49:14.960
<v Speaker 2>But there was things happening in the house, and not

2300
01:49:15.000 --> 01:49:17.399
<v Speaker 2>too long ago really, but just over a year ago

2301
01:49:17.439 --> 01:49:19.399
<v Speaker 2>now where it was getting to a point where I

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01:49:19.439 --> 01:49:22.640
<v Speaker 2>was like, I might have to start stop talking about

2303
01:49:22.640 --> 01:49:25.119
<v Speaker 2>this stuff, because I really it was getting intense, like

2304
01:49:25.159 --> 01:49:28.000
<v Speaker 2>the kids were seeing things, the wife was seeing things.

2305
01:49:28.039 --> 01:49:30.640
<v Speaker 2>We was hearing things in the house and my wife

2306
01:49:30.680 --> 01:49:33.920
<v Speaker 2>heard me call her name whilst I was at work.

2307
01:49:35.079 --> 01:49:37.479
<v Speaker 2>Stuff like that was happening. He was getting really quind

2308
01:49:37.479 --> 01:49:39.439
<v Speaker 2>of dark. And that's when I said, I lan it

2309
01:49:39.439 --> 01:49:41.439
<v Speaker 2>on prayer and I was praying out loud every day

2310
01:49:41.479 --> 01:49:45.079
<v Speaker 2>and you know, and that for us, that stopped it.

2311
01:49:45.119 --> 01:49:47.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that it works for everyone, but that

2312
01:49:47.840 --> 01:49:49.600
<v Speaker 2>it was getting to a point where the wife was like,

2313
01:49:49.680 --> 01:49:51.800
<v Speaker 2>we need to you need to stop doing this paranormal

2314
01:49:51.800 --> 01:49:55.079
<v Speaker 2>podcast because I think you're inviting some dark stuff in

2315
01:49:55.159 --> 01:49:57.880
<v Speaker 2>and I think I think it's very I think it's

2316
01:49:58.119 --> 01:50:02.279
<v Speaker 2>very dangerous. It's fascinating, but there is there is a

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01:50:02.359 --> 01:50:04.520
<v Speaker 2>dark side as well, I think absolutely.

2318
01:50:05.479 --> 01:50:08.079
<v Speaker 1>So you bring on a healthy amount of guests onto

2319
01:50:08.159 --> 01:50:11.520
<v Speaker 1>your show and they also talk primarily about the paranormal

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01:50:11.560 --> 01:50:14.000
<v Speaker 1>aspects of things and aliens and things like that.

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01:50:14.119 --> 01:50:16.960
<v Speaker 4>Ye know, absolutely yeah Bigfoot as well, with another one

2322
01:50:17.000 --> 01:50:23.560
<v Speaker 4>of more cryptids favorite subjects, love Bigfoot so real, I

2323
01:50:23.600 --> 01:50:24.520
<v Speaker 4>think so yeah.

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01:50:24.640 --> 01:50:28.800
<v Speaker 1>Now, does the UK have a pretty solid Bigfoot basis,

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01:50:28.880 --> 01:50:31.199
<v Speaker 1>because I mean in the United States, depending on which

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01:50:31.199 --> 01:50:33.479
<v Speaker 1>section of the US you're living in where she's from

2327
01:50:33.479 --> 01:50:36.399
<v Speaker 1>in the Pacific Northwest. That's like their whole thing is

2328
01:50:36.439 --> 01:50:37.039
<v Speaker 1>the Bigfoot.

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01:50:37.279 --> 01:50:39.119
<v Speaker 3>We have a big museum down the street from a

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01:50:39.159 --> 01:50:40.520
<v Speaker 3>house in Louisiana.

2331
01:50:40.640 --> 01:50:43.880
<v Speaker 1>We have something called a rugaroo, which is essentially like

2332
01:50:43.960 --> 01:50:46.760
<v Speaker 1>a Cajun version of a werewolf, but there's some nuances

2333
01:50:46.800 --> 01:50:49.840
<v Speaker 1>to it, and so it's everybody's every place has their

2334
01:50:49.960 --> 01:50:52.319
<v Speaker 1>cryptid of choice, right the wind to go in the

2335
01:50:52.359 --> 01:50:55.720
<v Speaker 1>north and the skin walkers in the in the desert

2336
01:50:55.800 --> 01:50:58.159
<v Speaker 1>and all this stuff. So in the UK does Bigfoot

2337
01:50:58.239 --> 01:50:59.760
<v Speaker 1>have a pretty solid fan base.

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01:51:00.920 --> 01:51:03.079
<v Speaker 2>It's got a fan base. There's definitely a big interest

2339
01:51:03.119 --> 01:51:05.920
<v Speaker 2>in it, and I have talked to people that claim

2340
01:51:05.960 --> 01:51:07.600
<v Speaker 2>to have seen it in the UK. You know, there

2341
01:51:07.640 --> 01:51:11.199
<v Speaker 2>are people out there that, you know, very convincingly share

2342
01:51:11.239 --> 01:51:14.000
<v Speaker 2>that they've seen these things. And that's where it gets

2343
01:51:14.079 --> 01:51:17.640
<v Speaker 2>interested with cryptures, because you've got two camps. Primarily, you've

2344
01:51:17.640 --> 01:51:20.039
<v Speaker 2>got the flesh and blood. You know, these things are

2345
01:51:20.439 --> 01:51:23.920
<v Speaker 2>a natural creature undiscovered, and you've also got the They

2346
01:51:23.920 --> 01:51:26.039
<v Speaker 2>call it the wu side when they say there's like

2347
01:51:26.079 --> 01:51:29.079
<v Speaker 2>a supernatural element to these things. I think if they're

2348
01:51:29.079 --> 01:51:32.439
<v Speaker 2>in the UK, they're probably more on that side. There's

2349
01:51:32.479 --> 01:51:35.319
<v Speaker 2>probably more of a supernatural thing going on there, but

2350
01:51:35.479 --> 01:51:37.680
<v Speaker 2>I think I'm sorry, can you hear my dog? My

2351
01:51:37.680 --> 01:51:42.720
<v Speaker 2>dog's going crazy. I think the kids are home. So

2352
01:51:42.840 --> 01:51:44.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of in the middle of that aspect of

2353
01:51:44.920 --> 01:51:47.960
<v Speaker 2>what these things are. Again, I'll keep saying, I think

2354
01:51:48.000 --> 01:51:51.359
<v Speaker 2>there is multiple things going on, and we put everything

2355
01:51:51.439 --> 01:51:55.840
<v Speaker 2>in the same bracket, and possibly there is actually supernatural

2356
01:51:56.000 --> 01:51:58.840
<v Speaker 2>things that look like Bigfoot, and there might actually be

2357
01:51:59.159 --> 01:52:02.159
<v Speaker 2>a fresh and blood that is undiscovered that doesn't want

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01:52:02.199 --> 01:52:02.760
<v Speaker 2>to be found.

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01:52:03.079 --> 01:52:05.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we've we've heard all the different theories as far

2360
01:52:05.960 --> 01:52:08.039
<v Speaker 1>as like Bigfoot is a prime example. We've had some

2361
01:52:08.079 --> 01:52:12.279
<v Speaker 1>people say that these are clearly angelic beings obviously, and

2362
01:52:12.279 --> 01:52:14.720
<v Speaker 1>then we've heard some say though these are clearly nephelum

2363
01:52:14.880 --> 01:52:17.680
<v Speaker 1>and demonic entities obviously. Then you have some that are

2364
01:52:17.680 --> 01:52:20.760
<v Speaker 1>saying that this might be the missing link between eight

2365
01:52:20.800 --> 01:52:23.920
<v Speaker 1>to human evolution. Clearly you could tell because of all

2366
01:52:23.960 --> 01:52:27.720
<v Speaker 1>these things. And no, these are interdimensional beings, clearly, and

2367
01:52:27.760 --> 01:52:30.720
<v Speaker 1>it's so many people are so sure of what it is,

2368
01:52:30.840 --> 01:52:33.199
<v Speaker 1>but all of them are there.

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01:52:34.119 --> 01:52:37.960
<v Speaker 3>I like the dimensional conversation that Tim Foyle hat that

2370
01:52:38.000 --> 01:52:41.399
<v Speaker 3>we had with him, that that makes a lot more

2371
01:52:41.399 --> 01:52:44.199
<v Speaker 3>sense to me, Like how they're stepping in and out. Yeah,

2372
01:52:44.239 --> 01:52:47.239
<v Speaker 3>because if we haven't found a single skeleton or anything.

2373
01:52:47.640 --> 01:52:49.600
<v Speaker 3>I like the theory that they're coming in and out,

2374
01:52:49.600 --> 01:52:52.399
<v Speaker 3>that they're popping back and forth, because that makes, at

2375
01:52:52.479 --> 01:52:56.359
<v Speaker 3>least in my mind, more realistic, because you know, they'll

2376
01:52:56.399 --> 01:52:58.479
<v Speaker 3>be seen and then they're gone again and people will

2377
01:52:58.520 --> 01:53:01.000
<v Speaker 3>be hunting them through the woods and wherever they are.

2378
01:53:01.079 --> 01:53:04.239
<v Speaker 3>They're just gone. It's like, so if they really did exist,

2379
01:53:04.800 --> 01:53:07.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, that would make more more sense to me.

2380
01:53:08.000 --> 01:53:11.000
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, well, we can't catch up with them or trolls.

2381
01:53:11.119 --> 01:53:12.960
<v Speaker 3>That's the whole thing that's been happening. I don't know

2382
01:53:13.000 --> 01:53:13.199
<v Speaker 3>if you.

2383
01:53:13.800 --> 01:53:13.880
<v Speaker 1>So.

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01:53:14.039 --> 01:53:17.800
<v Speaker 3>Netflix released two troll movies all about like in your

2385
01:53:17.880 --> 01:53:20.239
<v Speaker 3>area kind of a thing and that trolls are still

2386
01:53:20.239 --> 01:53:23.079
<v Speaker 3>a heavy thing that exists and they're they're all around,

2387
01:53:23.159 --> 01:53:24.600
<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, okay, look not.

2388
01:53:24.600 --> 01:53:26.720
<v Speaker 1>The singing and dancing trolls are just Timberlake.

2389
01:53:26.760 --> 01:53:32.680
<v Speaker 3>Though we're LOGI my believe in trolls, Okay, why not.

2390
01:53:33.159 --> 01:53:35.479
<v Speaker 3>I totally believe in trolls. I believe in the I

2391
01:53:35.520 --> 01:53:36.279
<v Speaker 3>believe in fairies.

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01:53:36.439 --> 01:53:38.840
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of truth to these legends that we have,

2393
01:53:39.760 --> 01:53:41.800
<v Speaker 2>even like dragons, for example. I know it's pretty well

2394
01:53:41.840 --> 01:53:45.319
<v Speaker 2>to say dragons are real, but I mean, going back

2395
01:53:46.239 --> 01:53:48.439
<v Speaker 2>in I think they might be real. They're going back

2396
01:53:48.520 --> 01:53:53.039
<v Speaker 2>in encyclopedias. It used to say rare creature. That was

2397
01:53:53.079 --> 01:53:56.159
<v Speaker 2>what a dragon was described as a rare creature, and

2398
01:53:56.199 --> 01:53:58.920
<v Speaker 2>it's like and now they're described as mythical creature. Going

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01:53:58.960 --> 01:54:01.239
<v Speaker 2>back to what you're saying about Adam books change. Yes,

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01:54:02.640 --> 01:54:05.760
<v Speaker 2>So was there a time where these creatures were rarely

2401
01:54:05.840 --> 01:54:09.319
<v Speaker 2>seeing Game of Throne style? Sure? Man, some of the

2402
01:54:09.359 --> 01:54:11.000
<v Speaker 2>dinosaur bones that we find.

2403
01:54:11.600 --> 01:54:13.920
<v Speaker 1>Look very dragon esque.

2404
01:54:14.560 --> 01:54:18.399
<v Speaker 2>Dragon dinosaurs a new term really, yeah, right, dragon is

2405
01:54:18.399 --> 01:54:22.000
<v Speaker 2>the old term that's been in in you know for centuries.

2406
01:54:22.039 --> 01:54:24.359
<v Speaker 2>You know, you look at Saint George, the Cross the UK,

2407
01:54:24.479 --> 01:54:27.840
<v Speaker 2>the England Cross. Yeah, big slayer dragon and he's our

2408
01:54:27.920 --> 01:54:29.720
<v Speaker 2>national hero exactly.

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01:54:29.920 --> 01:54:32.279
<v Speaker 1>And so there are certain things like that where I

2410
01:54:32.279 --> 01:54:36.760
<v Speaker 1>do believe there's that kernel of truth, right, Vampires, zombies, dragons.

2411
01:54:37.359 --> 01:54:37.479
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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01:54:38.279 --> 01:54:41.319
<v Speaker 1>I will just say faith folk with very broad terms,

2413
01:54:41.359 --> 01:54:43.039
<v Speaker 1>because depending on where you're at, they might call it

2414
01:54:43.079 --> 01:54:45.640
<v Speaker 1>something else, but it's essentially the same thing. There's no

2415
01:54:45.760 --> 01:54:49.880
<v Speaker 1>way that the ancient Aztecs and the ancient Chinese and

2416
01:54:49.960 --> 01:54:53.479
<v Speaker 1>the ancient Africans and the ancient Europeans all had myths

2417
01:54:53.479 --> 01:54:56.319
<v Speaker 1>and stories about these entities that all looked about the same,

2418
01:54:56.479 --> 01:54:59.119
<v Speaker 1>acted about the same, The same types of things can

2419
01:54:59.159 --> 01:55:01.520
<v Speaker 1>ward them off unless there was at least that kernel

2420
01:55:01.520 --> 01:55:03.720
<v Speaker 1>of truth in the very very beginning of it all.

2421
01:55:03.880 --> 01:55:07.000
<v Speaker 1>And yes, I understand there's tons of cultural nuances to

2422
01:55:07.039 --> 01:55:09.199
<v Speaker 1>be dissected on all of that. But now I agree

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01:55:09.239 --> 01:55:11.479
<v Speaker 1>with you, and I think with the term we use

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01:55:11.520 --> 01:55:15.279
<v Speaker 1>as dragons today, we might be referring to what our

2425
01:55:15.520 --> 01:55:18.680
<v Speaker 1>ancestors might have called something closer to like dinosaurs. But

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01:55:18.720 --> 01:55:20.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that for a fact, right because I mean,

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01:55:20.960 --> 01:55:24.279
<v Speaker 1>even with that, Southeast Asian dragons have fur and they

2428
01:55:24.399 --> 01:55:28.279
<v Speaker 1>run on rain. European dragons are winged and they breathe fire.

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01:55:28.439 --> 01:55:31.840
<v Speaker 1>The Native American dragons were giant snakes from the sky.

2430
01:55:32.039 --> 01:55:34.039
<v Speaker 1>They didn't have wings, but they could fly somehow. And

2431
01:55:34.079 --> 01:55:37.920
<v Speaker 1>it's but the overarching theme has got to have that

2432
01:55:38.000 --> 01:55:41.720
<v Speaker 1>kernel of truth, right. It's same with the same with

2433
01:55:41.760 --> 01:55:46.159
<v Speaker 1>the fe same with vampires. Every culture has their entity

2434
01:55:46.199 --> 01:55:48.600
<v Speaker 1>that looks like a human, that subsists off of drinking

2435
01:55:48.680 --> 01:55:51.239
<v Speaker 1>human blood, and none of them are positive. No one

2436
01:55:51.239 --> 01:55:53.359
<v Speaker 1>looks at it like, oh, you want this thing in

2437
01:55:53.399 --> 01:55:55.479
<v Speaker 1>your house. Every one of them is saying, oh, these

2438
01:55:55.520 --> 01:55:58.239
<v Speaker 1>are people that we're dealing with the dark or the

2439
01:55:58.279 --> 01:56:02.239
<v Speaker 1>occult or the e in whatever cultural references are there.

2440
01:56:02.279 --> 01:56:04.520
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, all of this exists, So there's gotta be

2441
01:56:04.720 --> 01:56:07.119
<v Speaker 1>that that crumb of truth in the background.

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01:56:07.359 --> 01:56:10.840
<v Speaker 2>So and how can in every culture the same kind

2443
01:56:10.880 --> 01:56:13.520
<v Speaker 2>of creatures be described? You know, when when apparently the

2444
01:56:13.520 --> 01:56:16.039
<v Speaker 2>world wasn't as close as it is now. You know, now,

2445
01:56:16.079 --> 01:56:18.800
<v Speaker 2>obviously we can do this and we're all connected, really,

2446
01:56:18.840 --> 01:56:22.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, yeah, back hundreds of years ago, apparently we weren't.

2447
01:56:22.239 --> 01:56:24.680
<v Speaker 2>You know, we might have been, but how would we

2448
01:56:24.720 --> 01:56:27.159
<v Speaker 2>all be seeing and experiencing the same stuff, you know,

2449
01:56:27.159 --> 01:56:29.960
<v Speaker 2>even like we're bigfoot. Bigfoot is in every culture. You know,

2450
01:56:29.960 --> 01:56:32.920
<v Speaker 2>it's in Europe, it's it's it's all. It's in Russia,

2451
01:56:33.039 --> 01:56:36.239
<v Speaker 2>it's in the US. The same creature is being described

2452
01:56:36.880 --> 01:56:39.960
<v Speaker 2>in old texts, but they just have a different name,

2453
01:56:40.439 --> 01:56:42.760
<v Speaker 2>you know. It's that they're describing the same thing. Yeah,

2454
01:56:42.800 --> 01:56:46.520
<v Speaker 2>the yah the yaowie in Australia, exactly the same thing,

2455
01:56:47.000 --> 01:56:49.640
<v Speaker 2>but they're just they're given a different name. Fairies in

2456
01:56:49.680 --> 01:56:52.239
<v Speaker 2>the UK, you've got the put Quadgies in New England.

2457
01:56:52.279 --> 01:56:55.800
<v Speaker 2>In the US, exactly the same as a fairy. Basically,

2458
01:56:55.840 --> 01:56:59.439
<v Speaker 2>it's a trickster type small entity, you know. And then

2459
01:56:59.680 --> 01:57:02.079
<v Speaker 2>there we got pixies in just down to the road.

2460
01:57:02.119 --> 01:57:05.479
<v Speaker 2>People called them pixies. I am, it's wild, but they're

2461
01:57:05.479 --> 01:57:06.960
<v Speaker 2>the same thing, they just got a different night.

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01:57:07.159 --> 01:57:09.920
<v Speaker 1>And the books have absolutely changed over time too, I

2463
01:57:09.920 --> 01:57:13.560
<v Speaker 1>mean even to like a unicorn. For instance, unicorns are

2464
01:57:13.600 --> 01:57:15.840
<v Speaker 1>mentioned in the Bible, so they must be real. Okay,

2465
01:57:15.880 --> 01:57:18.279
<v Speaker 1>well they are. But also if you look at a

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01:57:18.760 --> 01:57:22.000
<v Speaker 1>I think it's like a seventeen hundred's encyclopedia when they

2467
01:57:22.000 --> 01:57:25.039
<v Speaker 1>say unicorn, a four legged creature with a horn sticking

2468
01:57:25.039 --> 01:57:26.520
<v Speaker 1>out of its head. These days we would call that

2469
01:57:26.560 --> 01:57:30.760
<v Speaker 1>a rhinoceros, but that is by definition what they were

2470
01:57:30.760 --> 01:57:35.159
<v Speaker 1>referring to as a unicorn. But somehow the mythical unicorn

2471
01:57:35.359 --> 01:57:38.720
<v Speaker 1>is on the crest of England and it's Scotland's national animal,

2472
01:57:39.000 --> 01:57:40.680
<v Speaker 1>So like, what the fuck we talking about?

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01:57:41.239 --> 01:57:45.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Absolutely, and isn't out isn't the dragon on the

2474
01:57:45.079 --> 01:57:46.199
<v Speaker 2>Chinese kind or something?

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01:57:46.359 --> 01:57:49.720
<v Speaker 1>It is, I mean wild a myth and shit it's

2476
01:57:49.760 --> 01:57:50.680
<v Speaker 1>on the Welsh flag.

2477
01:57:50.960 --> 01:57:54.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, dragons, dragons are all over. I heavily believe in dragons.

2478
01:57:54.520 --> 01:57:56.840
<v Speaker 3>I was just sitting here thinking about Greenland. Actually, I

2479
01:57:56.880 --> 01:57:59.439
<v Speaker 3>was circling back to that conversation and I was like,

2480
01:57:59.479 --> 01:58:02.239
<v Speaker 3>what if a dragon is underneath that, bitch, Like what

2481
01:58:02.399 --> 01:58:05.199
<v Speaker 3>if the dragon, an ice dragon is down there or

2482
01:58:05.279 --> 01:58:10.399
<v Speaker 3>some type of dragon the eggs Because so I know

2483
01:58:10.439 --> 01:58:12.680
<v Speaker 3>there's a book and this is such an old book,

2484
01:58:12.720 --> 01:58:15.640
<v Speaker 3>and I maybe want somebody listen to this, will remember

2485
01:58:16.199 --> 01:58:19.279
<v Speaker 3>it's a it's a mythology book. It's very small, like

2486
01:58:19.319 --> 01:58:22.279
<v Speaker 3>it's it's an actually small book and it's very small

2487
01:58:22.319 --> 01:58:25.399
<v Speaker 3>in it, but in it it talks about how the

2488
01:58:25.479 --> 01:58:29.840
<v Speaker 3>dragons hid their eggs in ice so that even after

2489
01:58:29.880 --> 01:58:33.319
<v Speaker 3>they're gone, they will live on forever. And like it

2490
01:58:33.359 --> 01:58:36.560
<v Speaker 3>was this weird dude. The whole book is strange, like

2491
01:58:36.600 --> 01:58:40.640
<v Speaker 3>it's just about all sorts of mythology and stories and

2492
01:58:40.640 --> 01:58:43.920
<v Speaker 3>it's like he's like I heard this from these people.

2493
01:58:44.159 --> 01:58:46.560
<v Speaker 3>I met these people, and this is what they've said

2494
01:58:46.600 --> 01:58:49.680
<v Speaker 3>that their their culture has decided, or this is what

2495
01:58:49.720 --> 01:58:55.560
<v Speaker 3>their grandparents said. And apparently somewhere up there in Greenland area, Norway,

2496
01:58:55.560 --> 01:58:58.039
<v Speaker 3>all of that, there was a conversation that was going

2497
01:58:58.079 --> 01:59:00.800
<v Speaker 3>around for a long time that dragon wagons hid their

2498
01:59:00.840 --> 01:59:04.359
<v Speaker 3>eggs underneath the ice because no human could really get

2499
01:59:04.399 --> 01:59:07.720
<v Speaker 3>to them. Yeah, and I don't know, I was just

2500
01:59:07.840 --> 01:59:10.079
<v Speaker 3>kind of I forgot about that book. I haven't read

2501
01:59:10.119 --> 01:59:12.760
<v Speaker 3>it since I was like fourteen when I went down

2502
01:59:12.800 --> 01:59:16.239
<v Speaker 3>my whole like crazy Egyptian obsession. Well, actually that was

2503
01:59:16.279 --> 01:59:17.800
<v Speaker 3>since I was like, I taught myself how to read

2504
01:59:17.880 --> 01:59:22.000
<v Speaker 3>hieroglyphs at like eight because I was really obsessed, really

2505
01:59:22.039 --> 01:59:23.600
<v Speaker 3>obsessed with Egyptian.

2506
01:59:23.760 --> 01:59:27.319
<v Speaker 1>They're taping kids cuneiform now really, so like my daughter

2507
01:59:27.479 --> 01:59:30.800
<v Speaker 1>she brought home a piece of construction paper with like

2508
01:59:31.159 --> 01:59:34.079
<v Speaker 1>a lump of plato that had been smoothed out a bit,

2509
01:59:34.640 --> 01:59:37.399
<v Speaker 1>and she had her name written in Cuneiform B. So

2510
01:59:37.520 --> 01:59:39.920
<v Speaker 1>like how we used to learn Egyptian hieroglyphs because that

2511
01:59:39.960 --> 01:59:42.600
<v Speaker 1>was what we thought was the oldest written language. Now

2512
01:59:42.960 --> 01:59:46.039
<v Speaker 1>history has been not changed. We have new information that

2513
01:59:46.079 --> 01:59:48.840
<v Speaker 1>has rewrote some of our ancient history. And now they're

2514
01:59:48.880 --> 01:59:53.279
<v Speaker 1>teaching kids about ancient Samaria and cuneiform B, which is dope.

2515
01:59:53.880 --> 01:59:55.680
<v Speaker 3>Wow, that's crazy.

2516
01:59:55.800 --> 01:59:58.039
<v Speaker 1>That's on my fridge right now. Actually, hell yeah, that's

2517
01:59:58.119 --> 02:00:03.479
<v Speaker 1>col It's crazy that these stories, all the dragons, the

2518
02:00:03.960 --> 02:00:08.399
<v Speaker 1>mythical creatures, the cryptids, the spiritual aspects of it, they

2519
02:00:08.479 --> 02:00:11.319
<v Speaker 1>all sound very similar, regardless of what section of the

2520
02:00:11.319 --> 02:00:12.159
<v Speaker 1>world you go to.

2521
02:00:13.039 --> 02:00:16.199
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'd find that wild. Now, before we were

2522
02:00:16.239 --> 02:00:19.439
<v Speaker 2>apparently communicating, we were writing down the same kind of

2523
02:00:19.520 --> 02:00:23.399
<v Speaker 2>information about these things. That's like, how can you explain that?

2524
02:00:23.439 --> 02:00:24.199
<v Speaker 2>What's the chances?

2525
02:00:24.319 --> 02:00:26.239
<v Speaker 1>And then even with the game of Telephone. I was

2526
02:00:26.279 --> 02:00:28.920
<v Speaker 1>just watching this, I think the Danny Jones podcast. He

2527
02:00:29.039 --> 02:00:31.720
<v Speaker 1>just had a guy on talking about Atlantis, right, And

2528
02:00:33.000 --> 02:00:34.520
<v Speaker 1>people that have listened to our show for a while

2529
02:00:34.600 --> 02:00:37.279
<v Speaker 1>know that I have quite a few opinions about Atlantis.

2530
02:00:37.319 --> 02:00:39.800
<v Speaker 3>I've been thinking about that a lot lately for some reason.

2531
02:00:39.960 --> 02:00:41.680
<v Speaker 1>So have you ever looked at the chain of custody

2532
02:00:42.000 --> 02:00:45.760
<v Speaker 1>on where the story of Atlantis came from before Socrates

2533
02:00:45.800 --> 02:00:46.640
<v Speaker 1>first wrote it down?

2534
02:00:47.000 --> 02:00:47.560
<v Speaker 3>No, I have not.

2535
02:00:48.359 --> 02:00:50.359
<v Speaker 1>He learned about it when he was ten years old

2536
02:00:50.359 --> 02:00:53.439
<v Speaker 1>from his ninety year old grandfather who heard it from

2537
02:00:53.439 --> 02:00:55.760
<v Speaker 1>one of his teachers at about the same type of

2538
02:00:55.800 --> 02:00:59.479
<v Speaker 1>age gap. And according to the earliest sources, we have

2539
02:00:59.520 --> 02:01:03.760
<v Speaker 1>about nine thousand years before that story was told in

2540
02:01:03.800 --> 02:01:07.239
<v Speaker 1>any regard that I'm talking about right now. Yeah, huh,

2541
02:01:07.439 --> 02:01:09.920
<v Speaker 1>so we're talking about a game of telephone for about

2542
02:01:09.920 --> 02:01:14.119
<v Speaker 1>a thousand years. Then it was written down in allegedly

2543
02:01:14.159 --> 02:01:17.560
<v Speaker 1>written down in some form. Then eight thousand years later,

2544
02:01:17.640 --> 02:01:19.439
<v Speaker 1>it was told to a guy who was told to

2545
02:01:19.479 --> 02:01:21.319
<v Speaker 1>a kid. Then that kid grew up to be an

2546
02:01:21.319 --> 02:01:23.079
<v Speaker 1>old man that told it to a kid, and then

2547
02:01:23.119 --> 02:01:24.800
<v Speaker 1>it was written down in this and this, and then

2548
02:01:24.800 --> 02:01:27.720
<v Speaker 1>we got Socrates and Plato talking about it. And it's like,

2549
02:01:27.840 --> 02:01:30.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that means that it's fake by any means.

2550
02:01:31.279 --> 02:01:33.600
<v Speaker 1>What I'm saying is that there is a long chain

2551
02:01:33.640 --> 02:01:38.079
<v Speaker 1>of custody and a game of telephone dating Millennia's plural

2552
02:01:38.640 --> 02:01:40.560
<v Speaker 1>and how much of that can we really base in

2553
02:01:40.680 --> 02:01:43.079
<v Speaker 1>something that is concrete? Right, is the same story as

2554
02:01:43.079 --> 02:01:44.159
<v Speaker 1>like King Arthur, I.

2555
02:01:44.079 --> 02:01:46.640
<v Speaker 3>Believe, I'm one hundred percent believe in a Lantis.

2556
02:01:46.800 --> 02:01:48.399
<v Speaker 1>I believe Atlantis was a real place.

2557
02:01:48.800 --> 02:01:51.720
<v Speaker 3>I do why, but I've always loved it, and I

2558
02:01:51.239 --> 02:01:54.640
<v Speaker 3>maybe I don't believe, Okay, maybe I believe in the

2559
02:01:54.680 --> 02:01:57.720
<v Speaker 3>fantasy aspect of it, because I am at one hundred

2560
02:01:57.720 --> 02:02:01.560
<v Speaker 3>percent a fantasy person. I love only fantasy. Obviously, if

2561
02:02:01.560 --> 02:02:03.840
<v Speaker 3>you look behind me, you'll see that I love fantasy

2562
02:02:03.880 --> 02:02:07.159
<v Speaker 3>books and stuff like that. But I think that there

2563
02:02:07.279 --> 02:02:09.800
<v Speaker 3>is something to be said about us. And we've talked

2564
02:02:09.800 --> 02:02:12.760
<v Speaker 3>about this many times recently, about my theory and that

2565
02:02:12.800 --> 02:02:17.199
<v Speaker 3>we lost you know, we've lost some type of beliefs, right,

2566
02:02:17.239 --> 02:02:19.439
<v Speaker 3>and some type of knowledge somewhere along the way.

2567
02:02:19.680 --> 02:02:23.439
<v Speaker 1>No. Absolutely, But I mean even with the Atlantis conversation, right,

2568
02:02:23.600 --> 02:02:27.960
<v Speaker 1>So I'm not saying that Atlantis isn't real. I'm saying

2569
02:02:28.079 --> 02:02:32.520
<v Speaker 1>that it was probably an ancient city. Like by ancient,

2570
02:02:32.600 --> 02:02:35.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean like think of the furthest back ancient you

2571
02:02:35.239 --> 02:02:37.159
<v Speaker 1>could think of. Right. And when they're talking about them

2572
02:02:37.199 --> 02:02:41.720
<v Speaker 1>being super technologically advanced, keep in mind, like to the

2573
02:02:41.720 --> 02:02:46.479
<v Speaker 1>Bronze Age, a bit of iron would have been seen

2574
02:02:46.560 --> 02:02:50.239
<v Speaker 1>as space age technology. So like when they're saying advanced

2575
02:02:50.439 --> 02:02:54.479
<v Speaker 1>circup nine thousand BC, how advanced are we really talking

2576
02:02:54.600 --> 02:02:56.399
<v Speaker 1>as what we would think of today. I don't believe

2577
02:02:56.399 --> 02:02:58.960
<v Speaker 1>they had flying crafts. I don't believe they had electricity.

2578
02:02:59.159 --> 02:03:01.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't believe they had can It was probably a

2579
02:03:01.720 --> 02:03:04.920
<v Speaker 1>civilization that was killing it per their day and age,

2580
02:03:05.239 --> 02:03:07.159
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. But that's about it. Then

2581
02:03:07.199 --> 02:03:08.880
<v Speaker 1>it has it got washed into the sea and shit,

2582
02:03:08.960 --> 02:03:11.199
<v Speaker 1>that's why I think is Doggerland actually I.

2583
02:03:11.479 --> 02:03:13.520
<v Speaker 3>Mean your here he holds a lot of a lot

2584
02:03:13.560 --> 02:03:14.960
<v Speaker 3>of weight to it because I mean that.

2585
02:03:15.159 --> 02:03:17.880
<v Speaker 1>The artifacts that they have found, we're talking about very

2586
02:03:18.000 --> 02:03:22.720
<v Speaker 1>very intentionally carved out harpoons, and they're saying that the

2587
02:03:22.760 --> 02:03:25.840
<v Speaker 1>technology to do this wouldn't have come around for another

2588
02:03:25.840 --> 02:03:28.520
<v Speaker 1>couple thousand years, but they're finding it, and it's dating

2589
02:03:28.560 --> 02:03:30.920
<v Speaker 1>back to right around the time of the Younger Dryest,

2590
02:03:30.960 --> 02:03:35.039
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, so possibly that would be Atlantis. I

2591
02:03:35.039 --> 02:03:37.279
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I don't know this for a fact, but

2592
02:03:37.399 --> 02:03:39.359
<v Speaker 1>it makes a whole lot of sense as far as

2593
02:03:39.359 --> 02:03:42.000
<v Speaker 1>the chain of custody of the information and the date

2594
02:03:42.039 --> 02:03:44.560
<v Speaker 1>that they put it to. They never really say if

2595
02:03:44.600 --> 02:03:46.840
<v Speaker 1>it was in Europe or Africa. He says, go out

2596
02:03:46.880 --> 02:03:49.560
<v Speaker 1>the straight of Braltar, make a turn and it's right there.

2597
02:03:49.600 --> 02:03:51.720
<v Speaker 1>You can't miss it. It's like, bro, turn left or right?

2598
02:03:51.800 --> 02:03:53.520
<v Speaker 1>What the fuck are we talking about? They don't say,

2599
02:03:53.680 --> 02:03:56.880
<v Speaker 1>They don't really say. But it's there's so many of

2600
02:03:56.920 --> 02:04:00.159
<v Speaker 1>these stories and myths and legends that I I do

2601
02:04:00.239 --> 02:04:03.800
<v Speaker 1>believe have their kernel of truth, but especially.

2602
02:04:03.399 --> 02:04:06.279
<v Speaker 2>With they stem from something exactly.

2603
02:04:05.880 --> 02:04:08.479
<v Speaker 1>But with our world today and the chain of custody

2604
02:04:08.479 --> 02:04:10.600
<v Speaker 1>of these stories, and as much as we are in

2605
02:04:10.640 --> 02:04:13.039
<v Speaker 1>the age of information, we are in the age of

2606
02:04:13.119 --> 02:04:16.079
<v Speaker 1>disinformation at the exact same time. So I mean, how

2607
02:04:16.119 --> 02:04:18.880
<v Speaker 1>much of it can we really like hold firm to

2608
02:04:19.159 --> 02:04:21.199
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's difficult.

2609
02:04:21.319 --> 02:04:24.479
<v Speaker 3>What kind of stories do you hear like often from people,

2610
02:04:24.520 --> 02:04:27.640
<v Speaker 3>Like do you have like certain themes, certain cryptids that

2611
02:04:27.720 --> 02:04:31.560
<v Speaker 3>you hear quite often like that you interview with, like

2612
02:04:31.640 --> 02:04:32.600
<v Speaker 3>people that you interview with.

2613
02:04:33.239 --> 02:04:35.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what I find quite interesting is a lot of

2614
02:04:35.439 --> 02:04:39.279
<v Speaker 2>people's first experience. It's quite similar. A lot of people

2615
02:04:39.640 --> 02:04:43.039
<v Speaker 2>say that their first sort of big experience was their grandmother.

2616
02:04:43.600 --> 02:04:45.720
<v Speaker 2>I can't tell you how many times I've heard that

2617
02:04:46.399 --> 02:04:49.399
<v Speaker 2>where people say, yeah, I was I was in bed

2618
02:04:49.479 --> 02:04:52.039
<v Speaker 2>seven or eight and my grandmother came to me. I

2619
02:04:52.039 --> 02:04:56.199
<v Speaker 2>have heard that so many times, and even from friends that,

2620
02:04:56.399 --> 02:04:57.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, when I was talking about people that don't

2621
02:04:57.840 --> 02:04:59.760
<v Speaker 2>believe in this kind of stuff, but then they say

2622
02:04:59.760 --> 02:05:01.560
<v Speaker 2>they're was this one time I had a friend, very

2623
02:05:01.560 --> 02:05:03.640
<v Speaker 2>good friend, that was like, no, I don't believe in

2624
02:05:03.640 --> 02:05:06.079
<v Speaker 2>this man, but there was this one time my grand

2625
02:05:06.119 --> 02:05:08.680
<v Speaker 2>came to see me after she passed. And I've heard

2626
02:05:08.720 --> 02:05:11.119
<v Speaker 2>that so many times, and I think, like, what what

2627
02:05:11.279 --> 02:05:13.640
<v Speaker 2>is the what is the reason for that, What is

2628
02:05:13.680 --> 02:05:16.159
<v Speaker 2>the symbol for that? Is there is there something? I mean,

2629
02:05:16.199 --> 02:05:17.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying it's not their grand I don't know

2630
02:05:17.680 --> 02:05:19.520
<v Speaker 2>what it is. It could be their grand you know,

2631
02:05:19.680 --> 02:05:22.359
<v Speaker 2>but stuff like that, that the white lady, the woman

2632
02:05:22.399 --> 02:05:24.920
<v Speaker 2>in white, and how often do you hear that? Going

2633
02:05:24.960 --> 02:05:27.039
<v Speaker 2>back to Coffee Castle, which is up the road from me,

2634
02:05:27.520 --> 02:05:29.359
<v Speaker 2>that is said to have a lady in white that

2635
02:05:29.439 --> 02:05:32.920
<v Speaker 2>walks around the castle grounds, you know, but you hear that,

2636
02:05:33.319 --> 02:05:37.000
<v Speaker 2>especially in British culture, the woman in white. Every town

2637
02:05:37.159 --> 02:05:40.000
<v Speaker 2>has got a woman in white legend that stands on

2638
02:05:40.039 --> 02:05:41.800
<v Speaker 2>the corner of the road that you know, you might

2639
02:05:41.840 --> 02:05:44.039
<v Speaker 2>get a glimpse of. That's it everywhere. You hear that

2640
02:05:44.119 --> 02:05:48.319
<v Speaker 2>so often, and those trends. The hat man as well.

2641
02:05:48.680 --> 02:05:51.760
<v Speaker 2>So many people see the hat man, you know, all

2642
02:05:51.760 --> 02:05:54.520
<v Speaker 2>over the all over the world. People see it are

2643
02:05:54.520 --> 02:05:57.279
<v Speaker 2>describing the same entity, you know, Is it the same

2644
02:05:57.399 --> 02:06:02.239
<v Speaker 2>entity or are they are they seeing a type of being?

2645
02:06:02.399 --> 02:06:04.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what it is, but it's so interesting

2646
02:06:04.840 --> 02:06:08.199
<v Speaker 2>how so many people have the same experiences, you know,

2647
02:06:08.239 --> 02:06:10.600
<v Speaker 2>and sometimes they're not even into this kind of stuff.

2648
02:06:11.039 --> 02:06:13.199
<v Speaker 2>And I've had people in the past explain like a

2649
02:06:13.239 --> 02:06:15.479
<v Speaker 2>shadow figure and they'll say it looked like it was

2650
02:06:15.479 --> 02:06:16.760
<v Speaker 2>wearing a hat, and I was like, oh, you've seen

2651
02:06:16.760 --> 02:06:19.199
<v Speaker 2>the hat man and they're like, oh, I've not heard that.

2652
02:06:19.279 --> 02:06:22.439
<v Speaker 2>Some people haven't heard that term. And then they look

2653
02:06:22.479 --> 02:06:24.119
<v Speaker 2>into it, and then you find out that there are

2654
02:06:24.279 --> 02:06:27.239
<v Speaker 2>thousands of people that claim to have seen this entity,

2655
02:06:27.279 --> 02:06:29.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, so stuff like that that kind of blows

2656
02:06:29.680 --> 02:06:32.960
<v Speaker 2>my mind. There's similarities in a lot of these cases

2657
02:06:33.000 --> 02:06:33.840
<v Speaker 2>and experiences.

2658
02:06:34.279 --> 02:06:37.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, absolutely, It's crazy how so many people have had

2659
02:06:38.039 --> 02:06:41.920
<v Speaker 3>similar stuff and they've seen similar things, and well, and

2660
02:06:42.000 --> 02:06:44.920
<v Speaker 3>a lot of it comes down to our brain naturally

2661
02:06:44.960 --> 02:06:47.840
<v Speaker 3>treads to fill in the pieces, and because we've seen

2662
02:06:47.880 --> 02:06:51.039
<v Speaker 3>so many movies, TV shows and all this stuff, a

2663
02:06:51.039 --> 02:06:54.279
<v Speaker 3>lot of people dismiss whatever they've seen that is unnatural

2664
02:06:54.600 --> 02:06:57.439
<v Speaker 3>at least to our eyes as dot dot dot. Okay,

2665
02:06:57.560 --> 02:07:00.520
<v Speaker 3>well that makes more sense if it's justice and like

2666
02:07:00.640 --> 02:07:03.720
<v Speaker 3>the whole seeing something out of the corner of the eye, well,

2667
02:07:03.760 --> 02:07:07.399
<v Speaker 3>you know, your brain is playing tricks on you. Shadows move,

2668
02:07:07.479 --> 02:07:09.960
<v Speaker 3>it's no big deal, all of these things, and you know,

2669
02:07:10.079 --> 02:07:12.880
<v Speaker 3>it's it's interesting because when you actually talk to more

2670
02:07:12.880 --> 02:07:16.600
<v Speaker 3>and more people about different experiences, a lot of people

2671
02:07:16.600 --> 02:07:19.239
<v Speaker 3>are like, wow, there was this one time that like,

2672
02:07:19.279 --> 02:07:22.119
<v Speaker 3>I don't really know. And it's funny because he had

2673
02:07:22.119 --> 02:07:24.039
<v Speaker 3>asked that they had Jonathan and him and asked me

2674
02:07:24.039 --> 02:07:26.239
<v Speaker 3>about my first like have I ever seen a UFO

2675
02:07:26.800 --> 02:07:28.880
<v Speaker 3>or an alien or anything, and I'm like, I don't

2676
02:07:28.960 --> 02:07:32.159
<v Speaker 3>I really think so I was like, well, wow, there

2677
02:07:32.239 --> 02:07:34.960
<v Speaker 3>was just one one and I was like, you know,

2678
02:07:35.399 --> 02:07:37.680
<v Speaker 3>and everybody around me was like, it's just a big

2679
02:07:37.720 --> 02:07:41.640
<v Speaker 3>weather balloon, and it made Even now, I'm like, it's

2680
02:07:41.640 --> 02:07:43.640
<v Speaker 3>a weather balloon. I'm just gonna go with that story,

2681
02:07:43.840 --> 02:07:46.079
<v Speaker 3>like I'm gonna believe that it's a weather balloon, even

2682
02:07:46.119 --> 02:07:48.039
<v Speaker 3>though like now that I've listened to a lot more

2683
02:07:48.079 --> 02:07:51.239
<v Speaker 3>people's stuff and I'm like, Okay, it probably wasn't a

2684
02:07:51.239 --> 02:07:54.039
<v Speaker 3>weather bloom, but man, I'm sure gonna stick with that story.

2685
02:07:54.079 --> 02:07:55.800
<v Speaker 3>But that's how a lot of people are though, when

2686
02:07:55.800 --> 02:07:57.880
<v Speaker 3>it comes to this stuff. Most people don't want to

2687
02:07:57.920 --> 02:08:00.880
<v Speaker 3>acknowledge that there might be spiritual entity around us or

2688
02:08:00.920 --> 02:08:04.680
<v Speaker 3>something else going on because we can't control it. And

2689
02:08:04.720 --> 02:08:08.399
<v Speaker 3>without the control aspect, then we're left to, well, I

2690
02:08:08.520 --> 02:08:10.439
<v Speaker 3>hope that this thing is not going to be evil

2691
02:08:10.560 --> 02:08:12.640
<v Speaker 3>or hurt me. I don't want to know about it

2692
02:08:12.640 --> 02:08:14.760
<v Speaker 3>because it's going to scare me, and all the scare

2693
02:08:14.760 --> 02:08:17.079
<v Speaker 3>aspect is like, oh, you know, that's just kind of

2694
02:08:17.119 --> 02:08:19.960
<v Speaker 3>that's kind of creepy, and like Bigfoot is turned into

2695
02:08:20.039 --> 02:08:23.800
<v Speaker 3>a thing of like kind of fun, you know. Harry

2696
02:08:23.880 --> 02:08:28.159
<v Speaker 3>and the Henderson's, Yeah, turn Bigfoot into you know, more

2697
02:08:28.159 --> 02:08:31.079
<v Speaker 3>of a lovable, likable creature that's you know here for

2698
02:08:31.279 --> 02:08:33.399
<v Speaker 3>us and all of these things. And so then it became,

2699
02:08:33.880 --> 02:08:37.119
<v Speaker 3>you know, this popular thing of like he is awesome,

2700
02:08:37.279 --> 02:08:40.039
<v Speaker 3>and like I have stickers actually on my computer right

2701
02:08:40.079 --> 02:08:42.079
<v Speaker 3>over there, and I have stuff all over my house

2702
02:08:42.199 --> 02:08:45.119
<v Speaker 3>of Bigfoot things because you know, where I'm from, there's

2703
02:08:45.199 --> 02:08:47.640
<v Speaker 3>tons of big Foot shit, so you know, and it's

2704
02:08:47.680 --> 02:08:50.640
<v Speaker 3>turned into like a fun thing when in reality, I

2705
02:08:50.680 --> 02:08:53.920
<v Speaker 3>don't really know if Bigfoot is actually a nice bro

2706
02:08:54.119 --> 02:08:57.520
<v Speaker 3>or not. You know, it could be a situation where, yeah,

2707
02:08:57.560 --> 02:08:58.800
<v Speaker 3>you hear the bad stuff too.

2708
02:08:59.479 --> 02:09:01.920
<v Speaker 1>So it's like the same could be said for aliens.

2709
02:09:02.520 --> 02:09:06.640
<v Speaker 1>Aliens vampires, Well, I've never heard of a positive vampire experience.

2710
02:09:06.680 --> 02:09:09.520
<v Speaker 3>Well I'm talking about the books, so the so like

2711
02:09:09.600 --> 02:09:12.840
<v Speaker 3>when you look at movies and books and TV shows

2712
02:09:12.880 --> 02:09:15.840
<v Speaker 3>and stuff they've created, you know, they've made it a

2713
02:09:15.880 --> 02:09:19.239
<v Speaker 3>lot more. Yeah, they've they made it more palatable. I mean,

2714
02:09:19.319 --> 02:09:23.199
<v Speaker 3>like I probably, no joke, read probably a thousand books.

2715
02:09:23.600 --> 02:09:29.399
<v Speaker 3>They're all involve you know, dragons, fay, vampires, shape shifters,

2716
02:09:29.439 --> 02:09:31.000
<v Speaker 3>were wolves, you name it.

2717
02:09:31.359 --> 02:09:33.399
<v Speaker 1>And but what I mean as far as like in

2718
02:09:33.840 --> 02:09:36.680
<v Speaker 1>aside from literature and movies. If somebody has a big

2719
02:09:36.760 --> 02:09:40.079
<v Speaker 1>Bigfoot experience, right, they may just be like, I don't

2720
02:09:40.079 --> 02:09:41.880
<v Speaker 1>know about that, but I'm just gonna walk away because

2721
02:09:41.920 --> 02:09:43.680
<v Speaker 1>you don't know if it's good or bad. So she's like,

2722
02:09:43.720 --> 02:09:45.920
<v Speaker 1>I hope it's gonna be okay, And then you.

2723
02:09:45.880 --> 02:09:47.359
<v Speaker 3>Just don't talk about it to anybody because you don't

2724
02:09:47.359 --> 02:09:48.159
<v Speaker 3>want to seem crazy.

2725
02:09:48.239 --> 02:09:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Same with the aliens. Like if an alien craft comes

2726
02:09:50.920 --> 02:09:53.079
<v Speaker 1>some people and very much in the same two camps

2727
02:09:53.159 --> 02:09:55.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of thing, either a these things are here to

2728
02:09:55.720 --> 02:09:58.920
<v Speaker 1>give us enlightenment and tech and they're here for the

2729
02:09:58.960 --> 02:10:02.399
<v Speaker 1>betterment of mankind, or now they hear the conquest and

2730
02:10:02.560 --> 02:10:05.439
<v Speaker 1>enslave us and we're all fucked now. And so we

2731
02:10:05.479 --> 02:10:08.279
<v Speaker 1>don't know one way or another. We understand that our

2732
02:10:08.319 --> 02:10:11.199
<v Speaker 1>feelings on it have no bearing on what the truth

2733
02:10:11.239 --> 02:10:13.159
<v Speaker 1>of it is if that thing does one thing or

2734
02:10:13.199 --> 02:10:15.439
<v Speaker 1>the other. So it's like I just kind of hope

2735
02:10:15.479 --> 02:10:17.800
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be okay. I guess sure, And then you

2736
02:10:17.880 --> 02:10:20.039
<v Speaker 1>never talk about it because if you won't get looked

2737
02:10:20.039 --> 02:10:22.199
<v Speaker 1>at like the crazy person in your job site or whatever.

2738
02:10:22.239 --> 02:10:26.640
<v Speaker 2>It's a thing too late for us. But I've got

2739
02:10:26.760 --> 02:10:29.479
<v Speaker 2>I've got to tell you what UFO experience. Yeah, tell us,

2740
02:10:29.479 --> 02:10:30.840
<v Speaker 2>and I've got to tell you what happened. And there's

2741
02:10:30.880 --> 02:10:34.319
<v Speaker 2>been a few. I'm into this stuff, so I'm always looking.

2742
02:10:34.600 --> 02:10:36.479
<v Speaker 2>And if you're always looking into the sky, you're gonna

2743
02:10:36.479 --> 02:10:41.279
<v Speaker 2>see some weird stuff. And sure sometimes there are logical explanations. Starlink,

2744
02:10:41.359 --> 02:10:43.439
<v Speaker 2>all this kind of stuff. So many people send me

2745
02:10:43.520 --> 02:10:46.640
<v Speaker 2>the starlink yeah video. I've had family members and.

2746
02:10:46.760 --> 02:10:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Bro, first time I saw it, it fucked me up.

2747
02:10:49.199 --> 02:10:51.159
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know it was a thing, very strange.

2748
02:10:51.239 --> 02:10:53.279
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, but I've seen some weird shit in

2749
02:10:53.279 --> 02:10:55.760
<v Speaker 3>the sky and I don't actually know ever what it is.

2750
02:10:55.800 --> 02:10:58.680
<v Speaker 3>And I'm just like, you know, I got i gotta

2751
02:10:58.720 --> 02:11:00.399
<v Speaker 3>get cook dinner, So like, fuck it.

2752
02:11:01.359 --> 02:11:04.720
<v Speaker 1>A line of blinking stars that's just going across the

2753
02:11:04.760 --> 02:11:07.199
<v Speaker 1>sky and I saw the Starlink. I had no idea

2754
02:11:07.199 --> 02:11:07.600
<v Speaker 1>what this was.

2755
02:11:07.680 --> 02:11:09.880
<v Speaker 3>I was outside, is that.

2756
02:11:09.960 --> 02:11:12.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm outside camping with the kids in the backyard, little tent,

2757
02:11:12.920 --> 02:11:15.439
<v Speaker 1>little fire whatever. I look up and see that ship.

2758
02:11:15.920 --> 02:11:20.560
<v Speaker 1>I start losing it. I put up a video on Instagram. No,

2759
02:11:20.680 --> 02:11:22.279
<v Speaker 1>I put a video up on Instagram. I'm like, y'all,

2760
02:11:22.279 --> 02:11:24.159
<v Speaker 1>are y'all are not gonna believe what I'm watching right now.

2761
02:11:24.159 --> 02:11:26.279
<v Speaker 1>And everybody's like, bro, that's just Elon and I'm like,

2762
02:11:26.680 --> 02:11:29.039
<v Speaker 1>what the fuck are you talking about, dude.

2763
02:11:28.760 --> 02:11:31.640
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, I didn't realize that was starlink now really

2764
02:11:32.079 --> 02:11:33.960
<v Speaker 3>I actually never looked into what it looks like. But

2765
02:11:34.000 --> 02:11:35.960
<v Speaker 3>now I'm like, makes more sense.

2766
02:11:36.319 --> 02:11:39.159
<v Speaker 2>My people say, look at this UFH. Now that's not UFU.

2767
02:11:41.520 --> 02:11:46.000
<v Speaker 2>I see it on my first big UFO experience when

2768
02:11:46.039 --> 02:11:50.279
<v Speaker 2>I was fourteen. This was so she's going back this

2769
02:11:50.800 --> 02:11:54.439
<v Speaker 2>I had, like, so I know the here, I'd like Nokia,

2770
02:11:54.840 --> 02:11:58.039
<v Speaker 2>remember the brick. Oh yeah, I couldn't take a picture

2771
02:11:58.039 --> 02:12:00.560
<v Speaker 2>of this thing or anything like that. But my brother

2772
02:12:00.680 --> 02:12:03.000
<v Speaker 2>remembers this happening as my brother was there as well,

2773
02:12:03.239 --> 02:12:06.520
<v Speaker 2>and other friends were there. But we was playing football

2774
02:12:06.800 --> 02:12:09.880
<v Speaker 2>or soccer in the street, and which is what we

2775
02:12:09.920 --> 02:12:12.039
<v Speaker 2>did every day. That was during the summer. That was

2776
02:12:12.079 --> 02:12:13.640
<v Speaker 2>our thing, playing soccer in the street.

2777
02:12:14.199 --> 02:12:14.960
<v Speaker 1>And it was a.

2778
02:12:14.880 --> 02:12:18.600
<v Speaker 2>Lovely, lovely day, blue sky, a lovely day. And I

2779
02:12:18.600 --> 02:12:20.119
<v Speaker 2>don't know if it was me or if someone else

2780
02:12:20.159 --> 02:12:21.720
<v Speaker 2>one of the other boys had seen this thing in

2781
02:12:21.760 --> 02:12:25.039
<v Speaker 2>the sky, but we all stopped. Our attention was taken

2782
02:12:25.079 --> 02:12:27.079
<v Speaker 2>to this object in the sky and it's going to

2783
02:12:27.199 --> 02:12:32.199
<v Speaker 2>sound wild, but this absolutely happened. It was like it

2784
02:12:32.319 --> 02:12:35.640
<v Speaker 2>was like a futuristic building right as you picture like

2785
02:12:36.079 --> 02:12:39.319
<v Speaker 2>a building in Dubai that's of weird shape, looks like

2786
02:12:39.399 --> 02:12:43.319
<v Speaker 2>really new and cool. Pick that up, throw it out

2787
02:12:43.319 --> 02:12:46.920
<v Speaker 2>into the sky and just let it float. That is

2788
02:12:47.039 --> 02:12:49.880
<v Speaker 2>literally what we saw. I know it sounds crazy. I

2789
02:12:49.920 --> 02:12:53.920
<v Speaker 2>know it sounds And what's even crazier is is we're

2790
02:12:53.920 --> 02:12:56.680
<v Speaker 2>watching this thing in the sky trying to work out

2791
02:12:56.720 --> 02:12:58.720
<v Speaker 2>what it is. Is it a blimp? Is it a

2792
02:12:58.800 --> 02:13:01.479
<v Speaker 2>hot air blue playing? What the heck is it?

2793
02:13:01.560 --> 02:13:01.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

2794
02:13:01.800 --> 02:13:04.920
<v Speaker 2>What is it? And it wasn't It wasn't moving. I

2795
02:13:04.920 --> 02:13:08.479
<v Speaker 2>don't think, it was just floating, and it was like

2796
02:13:08.720 --> 02:13:11.640
<v Speaker 2>orange and silver they were like the main colors coming

2797
02:13:11.640 --> 02:13:14.560
<v Speaker 2>off this thing, but it looked like you couldn't really tell,

2798
02:13:14.680 --> 02:13:17.359
<v Speaker 2>but it looked like there was like patterns. I think

2799
02:13:17.399 --> 02:13:20.119
<v Speaker 2>this is kind of my mind remembering it, but like

2800
02:13:20.159 --> 02:13:22.920
<v Speaker 2>you can sort of remember like maybe little windows on

2801
02:13:22.960 --> 02:13:24.399
<v Speaker 2>it and stuff. But I don't know if that's just

2802
02:13:24.439 --> 02:13:27.239
<v Speaker 2>me adding that in, but it was definitely like orange

2803
02:13:27.239 --> 02:13:29.680
<v Speaker 2>and silver were like the main colors, and it was

2804
02:13:29.760 --> 02:13:34.000
<v Speaker 2>just a weird, weird shape long but with like weird shape,

2805
02:13:34.000 --> 02:13:35.479
<v Speaker 2>it's just like a futuristic building.

2806
02:13:35.880 --> 02:13:37.800
<v Speaker 3>It sounds like some of the other stories we've heard.

2807
02:13:37.920 --> 02:13:40.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it was so, and I've not really ever

2808
02:13:40.760 --> 02:13:42.479
<v Speaker 2>seen anything close to it. I've seen a lot of

2809
02:13:42.479 --> 02:13:45.560
<v Speaker 2>pictures of UFOs. I've never really seen exactly what we

2810
02:13:45.600 --> 02:13:48.840
<v Speaker 2>saw that day. But we're watching it for like ten minutes,

2811
02:13:49.079 --> 02:13:50.760
<v Speaker 2>me and my brother and the other boys, and then

2812
02:13:51.319 --> 02:13:53.720
<v Speaker 2>it really bugs me, but we just started playing football again.

2813
02:13:54.000 --> 02:13:57.239
<v Speaker 2>We didn't see it fly off, didn't see it disappear. Now.

2814
02:13:57.279 --> 02:13:59.279
<v Speaker 2>I was very into UFOs at this time, but not

2815
02:13:59.359 --> 02:14:02.159
<v Speaker 2>like I am now. I'd watched that for like months.

2816
02:14:02.520 --> 02:14:04.199
<v Speaker 2>If I saw that now to try and work out,

2817
02:14:04.279 --> 02:14:07.199
<v Speaker 2>I'd be filming it. I'd be on Instagram live like, guys,

2818
02:14:07.199 --> 02:14:10.000
<v Speaker 2>what is there? Yeah. Obviously then you couldn't do that,

2819
02:14:10.720 --> 02:14:14.159
<v Speaker 2>and so the memory wasn't gone. It sounds really weird

2820
02:14:14.399 --> 02:14:17.840
<v Speaker 2>to forget something like that. I never forgot this, But

2821
02:14:18.000 --> 02:14:21.119
<v Speaker 2>when I started Let's Get Freaky podcast, I kind of

2822
02:14:21.119 --> 02:14:23.399
<v Speaker 2>wrote down about all the weird things I'd experienced, the

2823
02:14:23.439 --> 02:14:26.399
<v Speaker 2>man in my room, things like that. This never came

2824
02:14:26.439 --> 02:14:29.439
<v Speaker 2>back to my mind, and I was like, and it

2825
02:14:29.479 --> 02:14:31.560
<v Speaker 2>didn't come back until I was on a podcast. I

2826
02:14:31.640 --> 02:14:34.640
<v Speaker 2>was talking to Catwold on Paranormal Heart and it was

2827
02:14:34.720 --> 02:14:37.000
<v Speaker 2>first time I'd done a podcast. She was absolutely great.

2828
02:14:37.039 --> 02:14:39.159
<v Speaker 2>I was like, first time I was doing a podcast

2829
02:14:39.199 --> 02:14:41.960
<v Speaker 2>sharing my experiences for the first time, and this memory

2830
02:14:42.000 --> 02:14:44.159
<v Speaker 2>came back, and I was like, I'm just going to

2831
02:14:44.199 --> 02:14:47.600
<v Speaker 2>share it and hopefully I'm not manifesting some weird thing

2832
02:14:47.640 --> 02:14:51.119
<v Speaker 2>in my mind. So I told her the story and

2833
02:14:51.439 --> 02:14:54.520
<v Speaker 2>she was like, wow, whatever, And then a couple of

2834
02:14:54.560 --> 02:14:56.119
<v Speaker 2>days later, my brother had listened to that. It was

2835
02:14:56.119 --> 02:14:57.439
<v Speaker 2>the first time I was on a podcast that we

2836
02:14:57.560 --> 02:14:59.680
<v Speaker 2>listened to it, and he run me up and he

2837
02:14:59.720 --> 02:15:02.720
<v Speaker 2>was like, what was that thing we saw that day?

2838
02:15:02.760 --> 02:15:06.359
<v Speaker 2>I remember seeing it, but why have we never right

2839
02:15:06.439 --> 02:15:09.359
<v Speaker 2>talked about it? Because it was wild? And I was like,

2840
02:15:09.399 --> 02:15:12.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm just I'm so glad you remember it because I'm not.

2841
02:15:12.680 --> 02:15:15.039
<v Speaker 2>I know, it's a memory, obviously I remember it, but

2842
02:15:15.479 --> 02:15:17.199
<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to be going on shows like and

2843
02:15:17.359 --> 02:15:21.680
<v Speaker 2>just talking crap. No, this happened, and I'm so happy

2844
02:15:21.680 --> 02:15:24.760
<v Speaker 2>that my brother remembered it as well. No idea what

2845
02:15:24.840 --> 02:15:29.960
<v Speaker 2>it was, but it was a UFO project.

2846
02:15:30.399 --> 02:15:33.079
<v Speaker 1>I mean, me and my brother had a similar situation.

2847
02:15:33.279 --> 02:15:37.119
<v Speaker 1>Though we saw a flying car and we saw it twice.

2848
02:15:37.359 --> 02:15:39.000
<v Speaker 3>Is it ron and Harry, No, it was.

2849
02:15:39.000 --> 02:15:42.800
<v Speaker 1>A flying El Camino red. Actually yeah, uh. For anybody

2850
02:15:42.840 --> 02:15:45.399
<v Speaker 1>who doesn't know, just think of a same basic shape

2851
02:15:45.399 --> 02:15:47.880
<v Speaker 1>as like an old school big body Cadillac or a Buick.

2852
02:15:48.119 --> 02:15:51.439
<v Speaker 1>But uh, essentially we were. It was the day the

2853
02:15:51.479 --> 02:15:53.720
<v Speaker 1>sun was up. It was it was setting, but there

2854
02:15:53.760 --> 02:15:55.800
<v Speaker 1>was still bright outside. The street lights weren't on yet.

2855
02:15:56.000 --> 02:15:57.880
<v Speaker 1>We were taking the trash out to the street and

2856
02:15:57.960 --> 02:16:02.119
<v Speaker 1>we looked up and we saw a lying red El Camino.

2857
02:16:02.439 --> 02:16:04.159
<v Speaker 3>And you want to sit here and tell me that

2858
02:16:04.399 --> 02:16:06.600
<v Speaker 3>Alantis didn't have no flying crafts.

2859
02:16:06.319 --> 02:16:06.880
<v Speaker 4>Bitch.

2860
02:16:08.600 --> 02:16:12.720
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, anyway, so we saw it and we watched this

2861
02:16:12.760 --> 02:16:14.399
<v Speaker 1>thing for a man. There was no sound. We couldn't

2862
02:16:14.439 --> 02:16:16.239
<v Speaker 1>like hear an engine running or anything like that, and

2863
02:16:16.279 --> 02:16:18.800
<v Speaker 1>it just kind of floated around for a little minute

2864
02:16:18.840 --> 02:16:20.960
<v Speaker 1>and just kind of took off into the horizon and

2865
02:16:21.000 --> 02:16:24.560
<v Speaker 1>we're like, okay, that's a thing we saw. Cutzu. About

2866
02:16:24.640 --> 02:16:27.640
<v Speaker 1>eight months later we saw it again, same place, same

2867
02:16:27.800 --> 02:16:30.960
<v Speaker 1>same everything, same direction it took off to have not

2868
02:16:31.039 --> 02:16:33.520
<v Speaker 1>seen it since, and I brought it up on a podcast.

2869
02:16:33.600 --> 02:16:35.159
<v Speaker 1>My brother called me up. He's like, bro, why are

2870
02:16:35.159 --> 02:16:36.760
<v Speaker 1>you telling people that? I'm like, what do you mean?

2871
02:16:36.840 --> 02:16:39.360
<v Speaker 1>He's like, people are not going to believe that we

2872
02:16:39.399 --> 02:16:41.639
<v Speaker 1>saw that. I'm like, but you remember seeing He's like, yeah,

2873
02:16:41.680 --> 02:16:43.360
<v Speaker 1>I fucking remember it, dude. But that don't mean we

2874
02:16:43.360 --> 02:16:45.600
<v Speaker 1>need to talk about it. It's like, no, we have

2875
02:16:45.680 --> 02:16:48.760
<v Speaker 1>to talk about it, dude, absolutely, Yeah. You know my brother,

2876
02:16:48.840 --> 02:16:50.600
<v Speaker 1>he's not going to be talking about the dumb shad.

2877
02:16:50.719 --> 02:16:54.280
<v Speaker 2>You know, most people won't share this kind of stuff

2878
02:16:54.280 --> 02:16:56.639
<v Speaker 2>because they don't want to sound crazy. Bo. Yeah, if

2879
02:16:56.680 --> 02:16:58.920
<v Speaker 2>it happened, you're turning the truth. You know it's true.

2880
02:16:59.319 --> 02:17:01.799
<v Speaker 2>Share it, man, That's how I see it, dude. Could

2881
02:17:01.799 --> 02:17:03.200
<v Speaker 2>you see people actually driving it?

2882
02:17:03.559 --> 02:17:03.680
<v Speaker 3>No?

2883
02:17:04.040 --> 02:17:05.719
<v Speaker 1>It was too high up, so all I could see

2884
02:17:05.799 --> 02:17:09.000
<v Speaker 1>was basically the bottom of the car. And it had

2885
02:17:09.000 --> 02:17:11.440
<v Speaker 1>three headlights. I know that much. It It's two upfront

2886
02:17:11.440 --> 02:17:13.559
<v Speaker 1>and then one big one in the center. And it

2887
02:17:13.600 --> 02:17:16.760
<v Speaker 1>had tail lights, so I mean whatever, but it was

2888
02:17:17.120 --> 02:17:20.159
<v Speaker 1>that was all. I couldn't see who was driving or

2889
02:17:20.200 --> 02:17:23.319
<v Speaker 1>what I should say. But yeah, no, I have fully

2890
02:17:23.319 --> 02:17:25.280
<v Speaker 1>believed that we have had flying cars. This would have

2891
02:17:25.360 --> 02:17:30.120
<v Speaker 1>been two thousand and three when I saw this, so

2892
02:17:30.399 --> 02:17:33.760
<v Speaker 1>and in bumfuck. Nowhere'sville, Louisiana, So it's not like we

2893
02:17:33.879 --> 02:17:37.319
<v Speaker 1>have some like super awesome military testing base around here,

2894
02:17:37.360 --> 02:17:39.760
<v Speaker 1>Like no, no, This was some fucking rednecks that got

2895
02:17:39.760 --> 02:17:41.399
<v Speaker 1>together and was like, yo, I bet we could build

2896
02:17:41.440 --> 02:17:45.479
<v Speaker 1>this shit. Or or was this an alien craft that

2897
02:17:45.600 --> 02:17:48.159
<v Speaker 1>had cloaked itself to look like one of our vehicles

2898
02:17:48.159 --> 02:17:50.360
<v Speaker 1>but didn't know that. No, those vehicles don't go up,

2899
02:17:50.399 --> 02:17:52.559
<v Speaker 1>they stay down, like I don't know, I don't know.

2900
02:17:53.200 --> 02:17:54.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it might be, man, I.

2901
02:17:54.479 --> 02:17:57.280
<v Speaker 3>Mean back to the future. It was made in nineteen

2902
02:17:57.319 --> 02:18:01.120
<v Speaker 3>eighty five and their whole thing was flying cars and

2903
02:18:01.120 --> 02:18:01.559
<v Speaker 3>all that. STU.

2904
02:18:01.719 --> 02:18:04.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was a DeLorean though, Man, I know what I'm.

2905
02:18:04.200 --> 02:18:08.600
<v Speaker 3>Just saying, like the technology, you know, at least in

2906
02:18:08.879 --> 02:18:12.719
<v Speaker 3>the movie world was still about. I mean, hell, like

2907
02:18:12.840 --> 02:18:15.120
<v Speaker 3>the original day that Ears stood still, they had all

2908
02:18:15.159 --> 02:18:17.479
<v Speaker 3>sorts of shit happening too. I mean, there's lots of

2909
02:18:17.520 --> 02:18:19.840
<v Speaker 3>movies that have been around, so, I.

2910
02:18:19.760 --> 02:18:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Mean when I found out that they made a water

2911
02:18:21.520 --> 02:18:24.000
<v Speaker 1>powered car in the seventies and the whole story about

2912
02:18:24.000 --> 02:18:25.479
<v Speaker 1>how he got murdered for it and.

2913
02:18:25.399 --> 02:18:27.159
<v Speaker 3>All that, There's been multiple of them.

2914
02:18:27.159 --> 02:18:29.280
<v Speaker 1>Right, But that's what I'm saying. They developed that in

2915
02:18:29.360 --> 02:18:32.399
<v Speaker 1>the seventies as basically a science fair project. From that

2916
02:18:32.440 --> 02:18:34.959
<v Speaker 1>point onward, Listen, Sky's the fucking limit as far as

2917
02:18:34.959 --> 02:18:37.319
<v Speaker 1>what some determined people in their garage were able to

2918
02:18:37.360 --> 02:18:37.959
<v Speaker 1>cook up.

2919
02:18:38.360 --> 02:18:41.879
<v Speaker 3>I mean the glitteryde like the that they made like

2920
02:18:41.959 --> 02:18:44.760
<v Speaker 3>it's wild and it's like, how did you even Okay?

2921
02:18:44.959 --> 02:18:47.840
<v Speaker 3>But I mean to your point though, there's lots of

2922
02:18:48.319 --> 02:18:51.440
<v Speaker 3>people that have experienced wild shit and I've read some

2923
02:18:51.639 --> 02:18:54.559
<v Speaker 3>crazy stories. But then that's the that's the other hard

2924
02:18:54.559 --> 02:18:57.920
<v Speaker 3>thing though. For every hundred that you have, maybe five

2925
02:18:57.959 --> 02:19:00.840
<v Speaker 3>to ten are actually real, yeah, and then everyone else

2926
02:19:00.959 --> 02:19:03.200
<v Speaker 3>is you know, full of shit. But that you know,

2927
02:19:03.239 --> 02:19:05.040
<v Speaker 3>it reminds me of that video and I don't know,

2928
02:19:05.239 --> 02:19:07.799
<v Speaker 3>maybe you've probably seen it because you dive into it more.

2929
02:19:07.799 --> 02:19:11.520
<v Speaker 3>Have you seen the family that has had the cheap

2930
02:19:11.600 --> 02:19:14.719
<v Speaker 3>shifter dog situation that's out in the middle of nowhere

2931
02:19:14.959 --> 02:19:17.600
<v Speaker 3>that has attacked their house like multiple times and they

2932
02:19:17.639 --> 02:19:20.680
<v Speaker 3>have video cameras from like eight different angles.

2933
02:19:20.760 --> 02:19:22.440
<v Speaker 1>They got a skim walker attacking them.

2934
02:19:22.520 --> 02:19:24.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so they've had all sorts of shit happen, and

2935
02:19:24.559 --> 02:19:28.319
<v Speaker 3>they have I think like six videos of them showing

2936
02:19:28.639 --> 02:19:32.360
<v Speaker 3>at different times, at different times of the year, different months,

2937
02:19:32.399 --> 02:19:34.840
<v Speaker 3>like all of this and you see this saying like

2938
02:19:34.920 --> 02:19:36.959
<v Speaker 3>it crawls up the side of the house. They've had

2939
02:19:36.959 --> 02:19:39.840
<v Speaker 3>to replace stuff, like they've had all it's weird. There's

2940
02:19:40.120 --> 02:19:42.399
<v Speaker 3>there's a few videos and they talk about it and

2941
02:19:42.399 --> 02:19:44.879
<v Speaker 3>they've chased it off. They shot at it, and Steven

2942
02:19:44.959 --> 02:19:48.920
<v Speaker 3>it's like, but they're a local town things that they're insane.

2943
02:19:48.719 --> 02:19:51.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh for sure. Oh they're like, look.

2944
02:19:51.239 --> 02:19:52.799
<v Speaker 3>They're like, I'm not even trying to be this way.

2945
02:19:52.920 --> 02:19:54.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm just trying to show you what's happening to us.

2946
02:19:54.879 --> 02:19:56.840
<v Speaker 3>So maybe somebody can come out here and help us.

2947
02:19:57.280 --> 02:20:00.680
<v Speaker 1>And it's the same with the Bloodsoe family, right, Bloodsoe

2948
02:20:00.680 --> 02:20:04.079
<v Speaker 1>and the Bloodsoe said So group. They've had these orbs

2949
02:20:04.239 --> 02:20:06.280
<v Speaker 1>that have been coming down on their family land for

2950
02:20:06.280 --> 02:20:09.520
<v Speaker 1>forever and apparently one day this woman walked out and

2951
02:20:09.600 --> 02:20:11.639
<v Speaker 1>spoke to him and talked him about it. It said

2952
02:20:11.680 --> 02:20:15.559
<v Speaker 1>her name was Hathor, which that ties back to ancient Egypt. Possibly,

2953
02:20:15.639 --> 02:20:18.879
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but I mean, the dude, that whole

2954
02:20:18.920 --> 02:20:21.959
<v Speaker 1>story and it's documented. They have videos of it. It's

2955
02:20:22.000 --> 02:20:24.479
<v Speaker 1>all over the youtubes, and he's been brought on Fox

2956
02:20:24.559 --> 02:20:26.840
<v Speaker 1>News to talk about it. He got brought on multiple

2957
02:20:26.920 --> 02:20:30.040
<v Speaker 1>podcasts to talk about these things. But people still think

2958
02:20:30.040 --> 02:20:32.280
<v Speaker 1>that he's crazy, and it's like, bro, he's not like

2959
02:20:32.319 --> 02:20:34.079
<v Speaker 1>making it rich off of this. If he was a

2960
02:20:34.120 --> 02:20:36.200
<v Speaker 1>grifter and like that was what it was. He was

2961
02:20:36.200 --> 02:20:39.559
<v Speaker 1>like selling tickets to come meet the ORB or something. Fine,

2962
02:20:40.120 --> 02:20:43.479
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't seem like he's particularly happy that his land

2963
02:20:43.479 --> 02:20:45.680
<v Speaker 1>has been chosen to be the middle ground here.

2964
02:20:45.760 --> 02:20:47.840
<v Speaker 3>Like I'm just saying, I'm like, you know, what, can

2965
02:20:47.879 --> 02:20:50.600
<v Speaker 3>you go down? Like one more farm, one more down

2966
02:20:50.600 --> 02:20:53.600
<v Speaker 3>the street, like just like like he's not even they

2967
02:20:53.639 --> 02:20:55.079
<v Speaker 3>got cows over there, go take them.

2968
02:20:55.239 --> 02:20:57.920
<v Speaker 1>Like he's not even super charismatic. Yeah, he's not out

2969
02:20:57.959 --> 02:21:00.879
<v Speaker 1>here like painting a picture and like doing his content

2970
02:21:01.000 --> 02:21:03.840
<v Speaker 1>thing like he's he just seems like some old average

2971
02:21:03.920 --> 02:21:05.879
<v Speaker 1>dude who just wants to be left the fuck alone.

2972
02:21:05.959 --> 02:21:09.159
<v Speaker 1>But these orbs, man, they keep showing up. This woman

2973
02:21:09.200 --> 02:21:10.760
<v Speaker 1>got out and talked to me. She said, to tell

2974
02:21:10.799 --> 02:21:13.319
<v Speaker 1>you all this. I mean, yeah, it's like I kind

2975
02:21:13.319 --> 02:21:15.600
<v Speaker 1>of feel bad for him in that regard. His son

2976
02:21:15.639 --> 02:21:17.399
<v Speaker 1>has leaned into it, but he is.

2977
02:21:17.319 --> 02:21:18.159
<v Speaker 2>Like fucking over.

2978
02:21:18.360 --> 02:21:21.719
<v Speaker 3>He's like, I'm so sick of dealing with I.

2979
02:21:21.799 --> 02:21:24.280
<v Speaker 2>Nearly got him and let's get freaky. We did actually told.

2980
02:21:24.239 --> 02:21:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Really bro we were supposed to have him on the

2981
02:21:25.879 --> 02:21:28.479
<v Speaker 1>show once upon a time, but the scheduling just never

2982
02:21:28.520 --> 02:21:29.200
<v Speaker 1>could line up.

2983
02:21:29.360 --> 02:21:32.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, he always said like maybe next month, maybe

2984
02:21:32.079 --> 02:21:34.079
<v Speaker 2>next month, and it just kind of I know he's

2985
02:21:34.079 --> 02:21:37.360
<v Speaker 2>obviously busy now, he's got a lot going on, but

2986
02:21:37.479 --> 02:21:41.680
<v Speaker 2>he's saying something's gonna happen apparently in this year. Right,

2987
02:21:41.719 --> 02:21:45.079
<v Speaker 2>he's saying in April this year, there's something gonna happen.

2988
02:21:45.360 --> 02:21:48.879
<v Speaker 3>So he said someone that's gonna happen in April. I

2989
02:21:48.920 --> 02:21:52.000
<v Speaker 3>feel like I've read some stuff that probably predicting things

2990
02:21:52.000 --> 02:21:52.440
<v Speaker 3>to happen.

2991
02:21:52.600 --> 02:21:56.000
<v Speaker 2>The thing is when they say that and it doesn't happen, right,

2992
02:21:56.079 --> 02:21:59.000
<v Speaker 2>If it doesn't happen, then you're like, well. And then

2993
02:21:59.040 --> 02:22:01.959
<v Speaker 2>sometimes they'll say something's gonna happen at this point and

2994
02:22:02.280 --> 02:22:04.559
<v Speaker 2>nothing happens, and then they'll say, yeah, but something did happen.

2995
02:22:04.719 --> 02:22:06.719
<v Speaker 2>There was a shift, and you're like, okay, And I'm

2996
02:22:06.719 --> 02:22:08.920
<v Speaker 2>not saying that's not right. There might have been a shift.

2997
02:22:09.120 --> 02:22:12.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. But when you can't measure it, it's

2998
02:22:12.159 --> 02:22:13.520
<v Speaker 2>hard to really know.

2999
02:22:14.200 --> 02:22:16.319
<v Speaker 1>And that's why I don't I don't like the people

3000
02:22:16.319 --> 02:22:19.399
<v Speaker 1>that put a hard line date on it. Now, if

3001
02:22:19.399 --> 02:22:21.280
<v Speaker 1>they were to say that it's going to be coming soon,

3002
02:22:21.360 --> 02:22:23.040
<v Speaker 1>it might be this time, it might be this time,

3003
02:22:23.120 --> 02:22:25.680
<v Speaker 1>then okay, I'll keep an eye out. I'll listen in

3004
02:22:25.799 --> 02:22:29.319
<v Speaker 1>kind of thing. But these same with like the rapture crowd.

3005
02:22:29.159 --> 02:22:31.040
<v Speaker 3>From last year, we survived the rapture.

3006
02:22:31.159 --> 02:22:34.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. For some reason, the tiktoks all agreed

3007
02:22:34.840 --> 02:22:38.000
<v Speaker 1>that the rapture was definitely happening in September twenty twenty

3008
02:22:38.040 --> 02:22:41.959
<v Speaker 1>five because one dude said, a thing that's based in nonsense,

3009
02:22:42.000 --> 02:22:44.600
<v Speaker 1>but like, now it's a thing, and it's like, bro, I.

3010
02:22:44.520 --> 02:22:46.760
<v Speaker 3>Feel like if you went on and you're convincing enough,

3011
02:22:46.840 --> 02:22:48.719
<v Speaker 3>you just be like, this is what's going to happen,

3012
02:22:48.799 --> 02:22:51.920
<v Speaker 3>and it's like, Okay, I guess we'll prepare for this.

3013
02:22:52.159 --> 02:22:53.840
<v Speaker 3>But people took it literally.

3014
02:22:53.639 --> 02:22:56.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's like that there's a sucker born every minute.

3015
02:22:56.760 --> 02:22:59.159
<v Speaker 2>Basically, did you see the thing that's gone around at

3016
02:22:59.200 --> 02:23:02.440
<v Speaker 2>the moment. I've seen it on the reels on Instagram

3017
02:23:02.520 --> 02:23:05.879
<v Speaker 2>going around and they're talking about the loss of gravity this.

3018
02:23:05.840 --> 02:23:12.879
<v Speaker 1>Year for seven seconds, I kind of hope that's real. Yeah,

3019
02:23:13.879 --> 02:23:14.239
<v Speaker 1>so for.

3020
02:23:14.319 --> 02:23:17.360
<v Speaker 3>Seven seconds sposed to lose gravity, which, by the way,

3021
02:23:17.760 --> 02:23:19.959
<v Speaker 3>you can float pretty high in seven seconds.

3022
02:23:20.040 --> 02:23:24.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so yeah, you're you're gone.

3023
02:23:24.120 --> 02:23:27.280
<v Speaker 1>And then yeah, you're gonna that sounds fun.

3024
02:23:28.280 --> 02:23:30.600
<v Speaker 2>It sounds fun.

3025
02:23:30.879 --> 02:23:33.319
<v Speaker 3>Then I feel like people are going to take this though,

3026
02:23:33.520 --> 02:23:36.600
<v Speaker 3>and well depends so like how did this happen? Why

3027
02:23:36.680 --> 02:23:39.559
<v Speaker 3>is this happening? And and then I don't know if

3028
02:23:39.559 --> 02:23:42.319
<v Speaker 3>you've ever seen this, the theory that there is like

3029
02:23:42.399 --> 02:23:45.360
<v Speaker 3>a mechanical ball in the middle of our Earth and

3030
02:23:45.399 --> 02:23:49.680
<v Speaker 3>like it's a machine actually running it, Well.

3031
02:23:49.559 --> 02:23:52.680
<v Speaker 1>It sounds like, uh, it sounds like what's that? What's

3032
02:23:52.680 --> 02:23:56.120
<v Speaker 1>that anime Castle Vania where Dracula was moving his castle

3033
02:23:56.120 --> 02:23:58.399
<v Speaker 1>because it was actually a mechanical device.

3034
02:23:58.520 --> 02:24:01.280
<v Speaker 3>When I was looking into Hollower and in different stuff

3035
02:24:01.280 --> 02:24:05.159
<v Speaker 3>like that, this theory popped up. Yeah, and I was

3036
02:24:06.079 --> 02:24:07.920
<v Speaker 3>I was like, okay, I mean, I'm gonna read the

3037
02:24:08.360 --> 02:24:10.799
<v Speaker 3>obviously it's on like a fan fic and they're kind

3038
02:24:10.799 --> 02:24:13.280
<v Speaker 3>of you know, piecing in different stuff. Now, I will

3039
02:24:13.319 --> 02:24:15.680
<v Speaker 3>say there was three movies back to back that was

3040
02:24:15.719 --> 02:24:19.319
<v Speaker 3>released that all of them talked to you about how

3041
02:24:19.639 --> 02:24:22.559
<v Speaker 3>the Earth is actually or actually all of the planets

3042
02:24:22.680 --> 02:24:23.719
<v Speaker 3>are machined.

3043
02:24:23.799 --> 02:24:26.440
<v Speaker 1>Ran was Dane the Rock Johnson in one of them?

3044
02:24:26.719 --> 02:24:27.639
<v Speaker 3>No Oh, I.

3045
02:24:27.559 --> 02:24:29.440
<v Speaker 1>Thought that he was in the Hollow Earth movie or

3046
02:24:29.479 --> 02:24:32.159
<v Speaker 1>the King Kong movie. I forget anyway, King Kong movie.

3047
02:24:32.200 --> 02:24:35.120
<v Speaker 3>Yes, it is, so then that means that they went

3048
02:24:35.159 --> 02:24:37.120
<v Speaker 3>through and then they went to the other yeah, yeah,

3049
02:24:37.159 --> 02:24:40.520
<v Speaker 3>so hollow Earth. I love Hollow Earth too, But that

3050
02:24:40.799 --> 02:24:44.440
<v Speaker 3>was a conversation on the platform about it, and it

3051
02:24:44.520 --> 02:24:47.000
<v Speaker 3>was interesting. I was reading the comments and like people

3052
02:24:47.040 --> 02:24:50.559
<v Speaker 3>bringing in pieces of uh, you know, textas from this

3053
02:24:50.639 --> 02:24:52.520
<v Speaker 3>and that and this and that, and I'm like, at

3054
02:24:52.520 --> 02:24:54.799
<v Speaker 3>this point, fuck it. I mean, I'll listen to all

3055
02:24:54.840 --> 02:24:58.159
<v Speaker 3>of it because you never know, But what are your

3056
02:24:58.200 --> 02:25:00.559
<v Speaker 3>thoughts on Hollow Earth? Because I'm always I bring it

3057
02:25:00.600 --> 02:25:01.840
<v Speaker 3>up all the time, and I'm like, I want to

3058
02:25:01.879 --> 02:25:03.000
<v Speaker 3>talk to somebody else about him.

3059
02:25:03.600 --> 02:25:07.680
<v Speaker 2>I recently covered the Admiral Bird conspiracy. Have looked into

3060
02:25:07.680 --> 02:25:09.520
<v Speaker 2>that one, and for me, that's always been like one

3061
02:25:09.520 --> 02:25:12.879
<v Speaker 2>of the og conspiracies. Even before I really started getting

3062
02:25:12.879 --> 02:25:15.920
<v Speaker 2>into conspiracies, I knew about that one and I've always

3063
02:25:16.000 --> 02:25:18.760
<v Speaker 2>kind of sort of wanted that to be real. Yeah,

3064
02:25:19.000 --> 02:25:21.600
<v Speaker 2>I know, it's wild. I know it's wild. He's gone

3065
02:25:21.600 --> 02:25:24.799
<v Speaker 2>into middle of to another world, to another land that's

3066
02:25:25.159 --> 02:25:28.360
<v Speaker 2>forested and beautiful, and met these this alien race that

3067
02:25:28.479 --> 02:25:32.799
<v Speaker 2>had Nazi aircraft. I mean that sounds wild, but you know,

3068
02:25:33.680 --> 02:25:35.319
<v Speaker 2>something seemed to have happened there. I don't know what

3069
02:25:35.399 --> 02:25:37.479
<v Speaker 2>exactly that was, because he was obviously a national hero.

3070
02:25:38.200 --> 02:25:41.040
<v Speaker 2>Why I don't believe he actually ever came out and

3071
02:25:41.079 --> 02:25:43.920
<v Speaker 2>said he spoke to these beings. I'm not sure if

3072
02:25:43.959 --> 02:25:45.719
<v Speaker 2>he actually ever said it. I don't think he did.

3073
02:25:45.840 --> 02:25:48.639
<v Speaker 1>It was a diary of his that it was allegedly

3074
02:25:48.760 --> 02:25:53.520
<v Speaker 1>real that somebody released after he died, and none of

3075
02:25:53.520 --> 02:25:54.920
<v Speaker 1>that can be verified. That's the thing.

3076
02:25:55.000 --> 02:25:57.319
<v Speaker 2>He did say that he saw things moving from pole

3077
02:25:57.360 --> 02:26:01.559
<v Speaker 2>to pole, right, that was like worrying said.

3078
02:26:01.639 --> 02:26:04.719
<v Speaker 1>I remember hearing that he when he went to Antarctica

3079
02:26:05.200 --> 02:26:07.479
<v Speaker 1>right the South Pole, he was talking about how this

3080
02:26:07.600 --> 02:26:10.879
<v Speaker 1>land is rich with oil and gold and uranium, and

3081
02:26:10.920 --> 02:26:14.360
<v Speaker 1>we need to do something to set boundaries on this

3082
02:26:14.440 --> 02:26:17.879
<v Speaker 1>before our enemies due right. And then when he flew

3083
02:26:17.879 --> 02:26:20.639
<v Speaker 1>over the North Pole, I want to say he had

3084
02:26:20.719 --> 02:26:24.479
<v Speaker 1>issues with either his radio or something. Something electronically started

3085
02:26:24.479 --> 02:26:26.639
<v Speaker 1>fucking up when he went over the North Pole, which

3086
02:26:26.879 --> 02:26:28.840
<v Speaker 1>if you look at the technology back then and how

3087
02:26:28.879 --> 02:26:31.760
<v Speaker 1>many things were based off of a magnetic north, it

3088
02:26:31.799 --> 02:26:33.719
<v Speaker 1>would stand to reason that he would start getting some

3089
02:26:33.760 --> 02:26:36.760
<v Speaker 1>wild readings over it. But I don't remember him as

3090
02:26:36.799 --> 02:26:38.639
<v Speaker 1>far as himself, because there's interviews with the guy he

3091
02:26:38.680 --> 02:26:41.360
<v Speaker 1>went on Celivision. He went onto all these interviews. I

3092
02:26:41.360 --> 02:26:44.799
<v Speaker 1>don't remember hearing him say anything about other kind of

3093
02:26:44.799 --> 02:26:47.760
<v Speaker 1>flying craft in the air. However, you could look back

3094
02:26:47.799 --> 02:26:51.239
<v Speaker 1>into World War Two and pilots from the Allied side

3095
02:26:51.319 --> 02:26:54.719
<v Speaker 1>and the Axis side all saw these food, fighter, ball,

3096
02:26:54.840 --> 02:26:58.000
<v Speaker 1>lightning quote unquote things in the sky that they couldn't explain.

3097
02:26:58.200 --> 02:27:01.159
<v Speaker 1>And Amirl bird wasn't denying that these things were real,

3098
02:27:01.399 --> 02:27:03.559
<v Speaker 1>but he was more on the exploration side of things

3099
02:27:03.639 --> 02:27:05.680
<v Speaker 1>rather than the combat side of things. So like, there's

3100
02:27:06.000 --> 02:27:08.760
<v Speaker 1>there's a little bit of it in all regards. But yeah,

3101
02:27:08.799 --> 02:27:11.319
<v Speaker 1>the Diary of bird Man, I have done so much

3102
02:27:11.360 --> 02:27:13.799
<v Speaker 1>digging into it because I also wanted that to be

3103
02:27:13.879 --> 02:27:18.639
<v Speaker 1>real so badly, and it uh to me personally. I

3104
02:27:18.680 --> 02:27:20.079
<v Speaker 1>can't find how it holds water.

3105
02:27:20.399 --> 02:27:24.799
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, yeah, there's something magic about I don't know,

3106
02:27:24.959 --> 02:27:27.799
<v Speaker 2>not magic, but the foot that there's like another world

3107
02:27:27.840 --> 02:27:31.159
<v Speaker 2>that's under us. You know. I spoke to people in

3108
02:27:31.200 --> 02:27:34.840
<v Speaker 2>the United States that have heard like trains going under

3109
02:27:34.840 --> 02:27:39.239
<v Speaker 2>their house in the middle of nowhere. So it's very

3110
02:27:39.280 --> 02:27:41.600
<v Speaker 2>possible that there is stuff going on underneath us that

3111
02:27:41.639 --> 02:27:43.799
<v Speaker 2>they don't want us to know about. I know that

3112
02:27:43.840 --> 02:27:47.639
<v Speaker 2>you've got you've got like Ela Muski's building, like roads

3113
02:27:47.719 --> 02:27:50.799
<v Speaker 2>underneath a roads.

3114
02:27:51.000 --> 02:27:54.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so we actually just talked about this with open

3115
02:27:54.479 --> 02:27:58.360
<v Speaker 3>time vibes, and we looked into the one that's already

3116
02:27:58.399 --> 02:28:02.559
<v Speaker 3>a natural made Undergod facility situation. It's like four thousand

3117
02:28:02.639 --> 02:28:07.000
<v Speaker 3>square feet or it's large, and there's they believe that

3118
02:28:07.040 --> 02:28:09.959
<v Speaker 3>there's real system, and there's a picture that's floated around

3119
02:28:09.959 --> 02:28:12.360
<v Speaker 3>for a long time that everything is connected underneath and

3120
02:28:12.399 --> 02:28:16.360
<v Speaker 3>they built an entire system underneath all of us, and

3121
02:28:16.360 --> 02:28:19.920
<v Speaker 3>pretty much it connects coast to coast, and there's cities

3122
02:28:19.959 --> 02:28:23.799
<v Speaker 3>and all of this stuff down there. I don't know

3123
02:28:23.799 --> 02:28:26.000
<v Speaker 3>if that's real or not. I always thought about Journey

3124
02:28:26.079 --> 02:28:28.639
<v Speaker 3>to the Center of the Earth, so the original movie first,

3125
02:28:28.760 --> 02:28:31.680
<v Speaker 3>because obviously Brandon Fraser wasn't around back then. But when

3126
02:28:31.719 --> 02:28:34.120
<v Speaker 3>I watched it, when I watched it the first time,

3127
02:28:34.159 --> 02:28:36.719
<v Speaker 3>I was like, hmm, it makes sense to me for

3128
02:28:36.760 --> 02:28:38.360
<v Speaker 3>some reason, even as a kid, I was like, it

3129
02:28:38.399 --> 02:28:40.760
<v Speaker 3>makes more sense to me. I feel like there is

3130
02:28:40.840 --> 02:28:43.440
<v Speaker 3>something at least in the center of our earth, and

3131
02:28:43.879 --> 02:28:47.360
<v Speaker 3>maybe there is more stuff below us, because it just

3132
02:28:48.120 --> 02:28:50.959
<v Speaker 3>too many things, too many weird things. But there's new

3133
02:28:50.959 --> 02:28:53.799
<v Speaker 3>photos that one of our cult members just sent me

3134
02:28:53.959 --> 02:28:58.680
<v Speaker 3>of doorways that they just found recently in different locations

3135
02:28:58.840 --> 02:29:01.879
<v Speaker 3>that just seem really strange and how they're put together,

3136
02:29:01.879 --> 02:29:03.440
<v Speaker 3>and now I was like, Okay, one of them I

3137
02:29:03.479 --> 02:29:07.079
<v Speaker 3>believe is man made. It looks man made. But then

3138
02:29:07.239 --> 02:29:09.239
<v Speaker 3>I looked into it more because he had sent me

3139
02:29:09.280 --> 02:29:11.239
<v Speaker 3>that one. And then I looked into other doors and

3140
02:29:11.280 --> 02:29:15.719
<v Speaker 3>I was like, okay, there, maybe there's Antarctica. One was

3141
02:29:15.760 --> 02:29:20.280
<v Speaker 3>in Antarctica, one was in China, another one was in Russia,

3142
02:29:20.799 --> 02:29:23.559
<v Speaker 3>and pretty much wherever it snows. They love the snow,

3143
02:29:23.920 --> 02:29:28.719
<v Speaker 3>you know. But yeah, the cave opening, and then you've

3144
02:29:28.719 --> 02:29:30.719
<v Speaker 3>seen the ones with the stairs. You've seen the overview

3145
02:29:30.719 --> 02:29:33.000
<v Speaker 3>of the stairs that are going in. There's you know.

3146
02:29:33.040 --> 02:29:36.159
<v Speaker 3>But it makes more sense though, because most humans can't

3147
02:29:36.200 --> 02:29:40.120
<v Speaker 3>really they don't want to survive in the snow. Yeah,

3148
02:29:40.159 --> 02:29:43.040
<v Speaker 3>And so if I was going to hide and play

3149
02:29:43.079 --> 02:29:47.079
<v Speaker 3>in sight, I would build my places around where humans

3150
02:29:47.079 --> 02:29:50.200
<v Speaker 3>aren't really going to travel a bunch too. Absolutely, at

3151
02:29:50.280 --> 02:29:53.200
<v Speaker 3>least that's my thought process when it comes to that, which.

3152
02:29:53.079 --> 02:29:54.760
<v Speaker 1>Is also why a lot of people believe there's more

3153
02:29:54.799 --> 02:29:57.920
<v Speaker 1>alien and I don't know if there's a quantifiable number

3154
02:29:57.959 --> 02:30:00.600
<v Speaker 1>to be associated with this, but they have suggested that

3155
02:30:00.639 --> 02:30:04.639
<v Speaker 1>there's more alien craft and alien things that go down

3156
02:30:04.920 --> 02:30:09.200
<v Speaker 1>when you get past a certain latitude, essentially up in

3157
02:30:09.239 --> 02:30:15.159
<v Speaker 1>the upper north areas of Canada, UK, Siberia, Alaska, and

3158
02:30:15.319 --> 02:30:18.040
<v Speaker 1>even towards the south pole right. Antarctica apparently has all

3159
02:30:18.120 --> 02:30:20.559
<v Speaker 1>kinds of flying tic TACs that have been seen for forever.

3160
02:30:20.920 --> 02:30:23.920
<v Speaker 1>And that also stands to reason, because if you're just looking,

3161
02:30:24.000 --> 02:30:27.319
<v Speaker 1>there's less there's less population, not just of humans, but

3162
02:30:27.360 --> 02:30:30.319
<v Speaker 1>of animals or of any living creature. So if you

3163
02:30:30.440 --> 02:30:33.000
<v Speaker 1>were it's the same thing. Let's say for some reason,

3164
02:30:33.319 --> 02:30:36.840
<v Speaker 1>humans were able to go to another planet and we

3165
02:30:36.920 --> 02:30:39.840
<v Speaker 1>discovered that there was life on this planet, we would

3166
02:30:39.879 --> 02:30:42.399
<v Speaker 1>study it. But then if we realized that they were

3167
02:30:43.319 --> 02:30:45.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of hostile towards us, but we still wanted to

3168
02:30:46.040 --> 02:30:48.639
<v Speaker 1>keep our outposts there, it would stand to reason that

3169
02:30:48.680 --> 02:30:51.120
<v Speaker 1>we would set up a base of operations somewhere where

3170
02:30:51.159 --> 02:30:53.600
<v Speaker 1>we're not going to affect their animal life, their plant life,

3171
02:30:53.600 --> 02:30:56.639
<v Speaker 1>their sentient living life. We're just going to kind of

3172
02:30:56.639 --> 02:30:59.239
<v Speaker 1>do us way off into the distance somewhere. So that

3173
02:30:59.319 --> 02:31:01.559
<v Speaker 1>also checks out too well, at least I know I'm

3174
02:31:01.559 --> 02:31:03.639
<v Speaker 1>looking at it through human logic and all, But that

3175
02:31:03.840 --> 02:31:06.120
<v Speaker 1>I get that I don't.

3176
02:31:05.959 --> 02:31:08.760
<v Speaker 2>Know and and taught to her alone. I mean, that's

3177
02:31:08.799 --> 02:31:11.280
<v Speaker 2>that's why does no one want to own that? Really,

3178
02:31:11.319 --> 02:31:13.760
<v Speaker 2>like we all share that basically, right, right, that's like it,

3179
02:31:13.799 --> 02:31:16.920
<v Speaker 2>and we don't share anything really unless we have nothing.

3180
02:31:17.200 --> 02:31:20.079
<v Speaker 1>I've always said that the Antarctic Peace Treaty was signed

3181
02:31:20.120 --> 02:31:22.319
<v Speaker 1>by countries that were at war with each other during

3182
02:31:22.399 --> 02:31:24.280
<v Speaker 1>the at the time, the height of the Cold War,

3183
02:31:24.319 --> 02:31:25.920
<v Speaker 1>and they all got together and was like, listen, we

3184
02:31:25.959 --> 02:31:28.799
<v Speaker 1>know there's a bunch of really cool resources there. We're

3185
02:31:28.840 --> 02:31:30.959
<v Speaker 1>just like all gonna agree not to fuck with it.

3186
02:31:31.399 --> 02:31:32.680
<v Speaker 2>How what's that all about?

3187
02:31:32.879 --> 02:31:33.079
<v Speaker 1>Right?

3188
02:31:33.159 --> 02:31:35.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we did a two part series on it, and

3189
02:31:35.680 --> 02:31:39.479
<v Speaker 3>we could have honestly done three more. Realistically, it's it's

3190
02:31:39.520 --> 02:31:43.479
<v Speaker 3>such a huge thing. But the whole space the Mars

3191
02:31:43.559 --> 02:31:47.200
<v Speaker 3>rock situation where they found Mars rocks in the lake,

3192
02:31:47.280 --> 02:31:48.920
<v Speaker 3>the one lake that they'd drilled in, and it's like,

3193
02:31:49.280 --> 02:31:52.200
<v Speaker 3>first off, the rover hasn't come back from Mars, so

3194
02:31:52.239 --> 02:31:54.879
<v Speaker 3>how the hell do you know it's Mars rock, right, unless,

3195
02:31:54.920 --> 02:31:58.079
<v Speaker 3>like they're stating that one of the you know, I

3196
02:31:58.079 --> 02:32:00.760
<v Speaker 3>guess maybe they have collected it at some point, But

3197
02:32:00.799 --> 02:32:02.879
<v Speaker 3>then how would you know it's strictly from Mars If

3198
02:32:02.920 --> 02:32:05.159
<v Speaker 3>you don't have the samples straight from Mars. It doesn't

3199
02:32:05.159 --> 02:32:07.319
<v Speaker 3>make any sense to me. But there's a lot of

3200
02:32:07.360 --> 02:32:10.479
<v Speaker 3>weird stuff. I mean the bacteria alone that can grow

3201
02:32:10.520 --> 02:32:14.040
<v Speaker 3>down there, the mushrooms that the spiders, the water spiders

3202
02:32:14.319 --> 02:32:15.879
<v Speaker 3>that are this freaking.

3203
02:32:15.600 --> 02:32:17.079
<v Speaker 1>Big, the size of a dinner plate.

3204
02:32:17.239 --> 02:32:19.799
<v Speaker 3>They're huge. You should look at it. So they actually

3205
02:32:19.799 --> 02:32:23.079
<v Speaker 3>set the camera down there and they're this big underneath there,

3206
02:32:23.159 --> 02:32:25.079
<v Speaker 3>and there's a whole bunch of stuff that can survive

3207
02:32:25.159 --> 02:32:30.120
<v Speaker 3>without sunlight, oxygen, all sorts of stuff. It's it's pretty crazy.

3208
02:32:30.159 --> 02:32:31.799
<v Speaker 3>And if they start opening up more and more, but

3209
02:32:31.840 --> 02:32:33.719
<v Speaker 3>it took them ten years to even dig down that far,

3210
02:32:33.879 --> 02:32:37.879
<v Speaker 3>So if they open up more, maybe there's a whole

3211
02:32:37.879 --> 02:32:39.239
<v Speaker 3>bunch of shit down there that we don't want to

3212
02:32:39.280 --> 02:32:42.840
<v Speaker 3>mess with. I E like, yeah, you know, aliens, dinosaur.

3213
02:32:42.879 --> 02:32:47.239
<v Speaker 2>It's very weird how the governments don't fight over that

3214
02:32:47.920 --> 02:32:50.239
<v Speaker 2>sort of they're all in agreement on this one thing.

3215
02:32:50.799 --> 02:32:53.399
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't make sense because we know what the governments

3216
02:32:53.399 --> 02:32:55.520
<v Speaker 2>are like. They all want ultimate power, they all want

3217
02:32:55.520 --> 02:32:59.399
<v Speaker 2>to own everything, So why would they agree on that,

3218
02:32:59.760 --> 02:33:01.479
<v Speaker 2>right man? It's very strange.

3219
02:33:01.520 --> 02:33:04.040
<v Speaker 1>Where are you at with the flat versus round Earth debate?

3220
02:33:07.559 --> 02:33:12.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm around Earth, yeah, but I don't dismiss anything in

3221
02:33:12.440 --> 02:33:14.319
<v Speaker 2>this crazy world that we live. I feel like I

3222
02:33:14.319 --> 02:33:16.559
<v Speaker 2>have talked to people that believe in flat Earth, and

3223
02:33:16.559 --> 02:33:19.399
<v Speaker 2>they've been very convinced, and I'm like, you know something,

3224
02:33:19.440 --> 02:33:22.600
<v Speaker 2>what you're saying is making sense. I don't like to

3225
02:33:22.600 --> 02:33:25.840
<v Speaker 2>dismiss anyone. Yeah, but I am. I'm around Earth for

3226
02:33:26.079 --> 02:33:28.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm around her flat if he's fascinating, though, I do

3227
02:33:28.200 --> 02:33:29.040
<v Speaker 2>find it interesting.

3228
02:33:29.600 --> 02:33:32.000
<v Speaker 1>I've always given respect to the flat earth community because

3229
02:33:32.040 --> 02:33:34.319
<v Speaker 1>they have also blown the lid off of so many

3230
02:33:34.360 --> 02:33:38.159
<v Speaker 1>other conspiracies. However, when it comes to the shape of

3231
02:33:38.200 --> 02:33:40.799
<v Speaker 1>the planet we live on, yet I agree because physics

3232
02:33:40.799 --> 02:33:42.920
<v Speaker 1>and math is real, and so I do agree that

3233
02:33:42.959 --> 02:33:46.879
<v Speaker 1>we live on a globe. But they also again, they

3234
02:33:46.920 --> 02:33:51.760
<v Speaker 1>have pulled back the onion layers on so many different points,

3235
02:33:51.840 --> 02:33:54.120
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of those have come to find out

3236
02:33:54.200 --> 02:33:56.280
<v Speaker 1>been correct. So it's like, well, if this is correct,

3237
02:33:56.319 --> 02:33:58.760
<v Speaker 1>how can you deny this? And it's like, I understand

3238
02:33:58.760 --> 02:34:01.680
<v Speaker 1>the talking point for sure, but uh yeah, I'm with

3239
02:34:01.719 --> 02:34:02.280
<v Speaker 1>you for sure.

3240
02:34:02.440 --> 02:34:04.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't think we landed on the Moon. I'm not

3241
02:34:04.520 --> 02:34:05.559
<v Speaker 2>the only one who doesn't think that.

3242
02:34:05.680 --> 02:34:07.959
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So I'm kind of in the middle on this.

3243
02:34:08.040 --> 02:34:09.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't believe that the first moon landing was real.

3244
02:34:10.120 --> 02:34:12.280
<v Speaker 1>I think we may have gone since then. Now what

3245
02:34:12.440 --> 02:34:15.600
<v Speaker 1>year in which mission I couldn't tell you. But if China,

3246
02:34:15.799 --> 02:34:18.440
<v Speaker 1>Russia and America are all fighting to see who's going

3247
02:34:18.520 --> 02:34:21.239
<v Speaker 1>to make a nuclear powered lunar base sometime in the

3248
02:34:21.239 --> 02:34:23.840
<v Speaker 1>next five years, I feel like we might have gotten

3249
02:34:23.920 --> 02:34:27.319
<v Speaker 1>there at some point. But I don't know for sure.

3250
02:34:27.719 --> 02:34:29.840
<v Speaker 2>I feel like with the Moon one, because I hear

3251
02:34:29.959 --> 02:34:32.000
<v Speaker 2>arguments for both sides, and I'd like to think we've

3252
02:34:32.040 --> 02:34:34.159
<v Speaker 2>been to the Moon, to be honest, But I do

3253
02:34:34.159 --> 02:34:36.000
<v Speaker 2>feel like it's possible that we did go to the

3254
02:34:36.000 --> 02:34:38.239
<v Speaker 2>Moon when we said we did, and they faked the

3255
02:34:38.239 --> 02:34:41.920
<v Speaker 2>footage because they couldn't actually record it. Maybe that happened.

3256
02:34:41.959 --> 02:34:44.799
<v Speaker 2>Maybe that happened to think we have gone to the Moon,

3257
02:34:44.959 --> 02:34:48.360
<v Speaker 2>let's be honest. But I don't know. Man, there's a lot,

3258
02:34:48.399 --> 02:34:53.159
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot that goes against the that doesn't make Senseeah,

3259
02:34:53.280 --> 02:34:57.399
<v Speaker 2>there's so much. I've got to tell you, your weird

3260
02:34:57.479 --> 02:35:04.360
<v Speaker 2>UFI experience. We So this is This happened when I

3261
02:35:04.360 --> 02:35:06.760
<v Speaker 2>was about twenty seven, so I'm thirty eight now. This

3262
02:35:06.799 --> 02:35:09.760
<v Speaker 2>is about just over ten years ago. And again it

3263
02:35:09.840 --> 02:35:13.159
<v Speaker 2>was a beautiful summer's day. This time it was we

3264
02:35:13.159 --> 02:35:15.879
<v Speaker 2>were living in a flat in Brentwood in Essex, and

3265
02:35:15.920 --> 02:35:18.399
<v Speaker 2>me and my mother in law both saw this, all right,

3266
02:35:18.440 --> 02:35:21.319
<v Speaker 2>it's really weird. So we were just talking and we

3267
02:35:21.319 --> 02:35:24.559
<v Speaker 2>were on the top floor of floor story flat. We

3268
02:35:24.559 --> 02:35:27.000
<v Speaker 2>was on the top floor and we're looking out to

3269
02:35:27.079 --> 02:35:29.680
<v Speaker 2>this like little forested area that we had on the

3270
02:35:29.680 --> 02:35:32.399
<v Speaker 2>other side of the where the flats were, and me

3271
02:35:32.479 --> 02:35:34.639
<v Speaker 2>and mother in law were just talking away and all

3272
02:35:34.639 --> 02:35:37.600
<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, these free objects came from the forest

3273
02:35:38.600 --> 02:35:41.520
<v Speaker 2>and they were like a silvery color, and there was

3274
02:35:41.559 --> 02:35:44.040
<v Speaker 2>three there were three of them, and they were sort

3275
02:35:44.079 --> 02:35:47.680
<v Speaker 2>of changing shape constantly. They weren't very big. They were

3276
02:35:47.680 --> 02:35:50.079
<v Speaker 2>like the size of a basketball, so they weren't big,

3277
02:35:50.120 --> 02:35:51.840
<v Speaker 2>but they were quite close to us, so we could

3278
02:35:51.879 --> 02:35:53.399
<v Speaker 2>really we really got a good look of them.

3279
02:35:53.440 --> 02:35:55.440
<v Speaker 1>That's my next question is going to be about how

3280
02:35:55.520 --> 02:35:57.840
<v Speaker 1>far away were they, because as you're saying, they're changing

3281
02:35:57.879 --> 02:36:00.959
<v Speaker 1>shape and shit like death perception can people.

3282
02:36:01.840 --> 02:36:04.760
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, but this was like so it was a road,

3283
02:36:05.040 --> 02:36:07.440
<v Speaker 2>there was a road in between us and maybe a

3284
02:36:07.479 --> 02:36:10.000
<v Speaker 2>little bit more of the forest, but it was pretty close.

3285
02:36:10.079 --> 02:36:12.120
<v Speaker 2>Like We've got a good look, and they seemed to

3286
02:36:12.120 --> 02:36:15.079
<v Speaker 2>sort of move not towards us, but as they were

3287
02:36:15.079 --> 02:36:16.840
<v Speaker 2>like moving up, you were getting to see them even

3288
02:36:16.879 --> 02:36:20.040
<v Speaker 2>clearer and there was like three of them and they

3289
02:36:20.040 --> 02:36:23.520
<v Speaker 2>were moving around each other. They weren't actually connected, but

3290
02:36:23.600 --> 02:36:26.840
<v Speaker 2>they were like they seemed to be connected, but they

3291
02:36:26.840 --> 02:36:28.760
<v Speaker 2>weren't actually touching. It was very weird. And there was

3292
02:36:29.319 --> 02:36:32.159
<v Speaker 2>that they were constantly changing shapes and they were never

3293
02:36:32.159 --> 02:36:35.040
<v Speaker 2>the same shape either, So they were like moving you know,

3294
02:36:35.159 --> 02:36:38.920
<v Speaker 2>like the film Flobber, Yeah, where he's just like a

3295
02:36:39.040 --> 02:36:41.600
<v Speaker 2>rubber just and he's constantly changing. It was like three

3296
02:36:41.639 --> 02:36:45.399
<v Speaker 2>of them moving around each other. But they were like silver.

3297
02:36:45.440 --> 02:36:48.000
<v Speaker 2>They were like a metallic you know, like in the

3298
02:36:48.079 --> 02:36:49.159
<v Speaker 2>Terminator where he's melting.

3299
02:36:49.319 --> 02:36:51.959
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like liquid metal, kind of like that.

3300
02:36:52.079 --> 02:36:54.760
<v Speaker 2>Look it looked like that. Yeah. And me and we're

3301
02:36:54.799 --> 02:36:57.639
<v Speaker 2>watching this and we're like, is it is it balloons?

3302
02:36:57.760 --> 02:36:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Are they balloons going through again?

3303
02:37:00.079 --> 02:37:00.520
<v Speaker 1>What are they?

3304
02:37:01.040 --> 02:37:01.120
<v Speaker 3>Right?

3305
02:37:01.200 --> 02:37:03.159
<v Speaker 2>And we're watching these for good five minutes and they're

3306
02:37:03.200 --> 02:37:05.639
<v Speaker 2>just going up and up and up and up, and

3307
02:37:05.680 --> 02:37:07.719
<v Speaker 2>we're watching the whole way up to the sky. And

3308
02:37:07.760 --> 02:37:10.040
<v Speaker 2>then the moment that I was like, no, that definitely

3309
02:37:10.159 --> 02:37:13.559
<v Speaker 2>wasn't balloons. It's basically all three of them went flash

3310
02:37:13.600 --> 02:37:16.440
<v Speaker 2>flash flash, and just shot off into the atmosphere, all

3311
02:37:16.479 --> 02:37:16.879
<v Speaker 2>three of them.

3312
02:37:17.040 --> 02:37:20.159
<v Speaker 1>WHOA. Because I was like, maybe it's a drones or

3313
02:37:20.159 --> 02:37:22.399
<v Speaker 1>something like that. But drones aren't taking off that fast.

3314
02:37:22.959 --> 02:37:26.239
<v Speaker 2>No, no, and drones weren't really this is over ten

3315
02:37:26.319 --> 02:37:29.120
<v Speaker 2>years ago. Work really like as big as it is now,

3316
02:37:29.360 --> 02:37:31.840
<v Speaker 2>I think. But me and my mother and we was like,

3317
02:37:32.079 --> 02:37:33.559
<v Speaker 2>no one's ever going to believe us that we just

3318
02:37:33.600 --> 02:37:35.920
<v Speaker 2>saw that. What bugs me is I did actually have

3319
02:37:35.959 --> 02:37:38.360
<v Speaker 2>my iPhone in my pocket at that time. I didn't

3320
02:37:38.360 --> 02:37:40.440
<v Speaker 2>even didn't even think about getting it out. I didn't

3321
02:37:40.440 --> 02:37:43.000
<v Speaker 2>even enter my mind. But when we're at like family

3322
02:37:43.040 --> 02:37:45.799
<v Speaker 2>parties now, we talk about that, We say what do

3323
02:37:45.879 --> 02:37:47.959
<v Speaker 2>we see that day? Yeah, and you can see the

3324
02:37:47.959 --> 02:37:49.239
<v Speaker 2>other family members.

3325
02:37:48.959 --> 02:37:55.879
<v Speaker 6>Like, okay, dude, the flying orbs is a conversation, right,

3326
02:37:55.920 --> 02:37:57.840
<v Speaker 6>And I mean, granted, a couple of years ago in

3327
02:37:57.920 --> 02:38:00.000
<v Speaker 6>America there was these orbs that were all over New

3328
02:38:00.120 --> 02:38:02.639
<v Speaker 6>Jersey and things like that, and people still don't really

3329
02:38:02.680 --> 02:38:03.520
<v Speaker 6>know what that was.

3330
02:38:04.120 --> 02:38:06.799
<v Speaker 1>I and a lot of people believe that they were drones,

3331
02:38:06.879 --> 02:38:09.360
<v Speaker 1>like new tech that the military was working on that

3332
02:38:09.440 --> 02:38:11.280
<v Speaker 1>they just didn't tell us about. But then there are

3333
02:38:11.319 --> 02:38:13.479
<v Speaker 1>so many stories of people that say that, just like

3334
02:38:13.520 --> 02:38:17.399
<v Speaker 1>you're saying, they saw these orbs and they change shape.

3335
02:38:17.479 --> 02:38:21.520
<v Speaker 1>They were shifting and basically morphing into other things right

3336
02:38:21.559 --> 02:38:24.520
<v Speaker 1>before their eyes, and because it was basically a ball

3337
02:38:24.559 --> 02:38:26.840
<v Speaker 1>of light, it's very difficult. Even if you would have

3338
02:38:26.879 --> 02:38:29.479
<v Speaker 1>had a camera on it, it's very difficult to see

3339
02:38:29.600 --> 02:38:32.079
<v Speaker 1>the real color that it looked like or what it

3340
02:38:32.079 --> 02:38:34.479
<v Speaker 1>was actually because the zoom quality, it's gonna get grainy,

3341
02:38:34.520 --> 02:38:37.239
<v Speaker 1>and like, there's so many other things. But you're talking

3342
02:38:37.239 --> 02:38:39.879
<v Speaker 1>about this at a relatively close range, and you and

3343
02:38:39.959 --> 02:38:43.799
<v Speaker 1>your mother in law both saw this. These three orbs

3344
02:38:43.799 --> 02:38:45.920
<v Speaker 1>came out with do you think they were connected or

3345
02:38:45.959 --> 02:38:48.159
<v Speaker 1>three independent craft? Because that's another thing. We hear a

3346
02:38:48.200 --> 02:38:50.399
<v Speaker 1>lot about these triangles and there's like a light on

3347
02:38:50.479 --> 02:38:52.719
<v Speaker 1>each corner of the triangle, but it's one craft.

3348
02:38:53.319 --> 02:38:56.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, these things weren't physically touching each other. Okay, so

3349
02:38:57.000 --> 02:38:59.719
<v Speaker 2>they seem to have some sort of connection because they

3350
02:38:59.719 --> 02:39:03.040
<v Speaker 2>were moving around in like a in like a circle,

3351
02:39:03.719 --> 02:39:07.159
<v Speaker 2>Like they were never actually touching, but they had like

3352
02:39:07.200 --> 02:39:08.639
<v Speaker 2>the same distance between them.

3353
02:39:08.799 --> 02:39:13.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so they're in connected, but not physically physically.

3354
02:39:13.479 --> 02:39:15.600
<v Speaker 2>They seemed to be in tune with each other. Yeah,

3355
02:39:16.559 --> 02:39:18.600
<v Speaker 2>flying around each other. I don't know, but there seemed

3356
02:39:18.600 --> 02:39:22.120
<v Speaker 2>to be like it was the same gap. The gap

3357
02:39:22.159 --> 02:39:25.120
<v Speaker 2>between them was the same. It seemed I don't know,

3358
02:39:25.120 --> 02:39:27.879
<v Speaker 2>if it definitely was. But I've got a good look

3359
02:39:27.879 --> 02:39:29.879
<v Speaker 2>at these things. So we're watching this for like five minutes,

3360
02:39:29.920 --> 02:39:32.319
<v Speaker 2>ten minutes wherever it was. We're getting a good look

3361
02:39:32.799 --> 02:39:35.079
<v Speaker 2>and we're we're not taking our eyes off it. And

3362
02:39:35.680 --> 02:39:37.840
<v Speaker 2>I guess if it had just floated off and just gone,

3363
02:39:38.319 --> 02:39:41.000
<v Speaker 2>we may have gone that was weird. Maybe they were

3364
02:39:41.079 --> 02:39:43.200
<v Speaker 2>some sort of balloons, even though they didn't look like balloons,

3365
02:39:43.239 --> 02:39:45.959
<v Speaker 2>you know, really no idea what they were. The way

3366
02:39:46.000 --> 02:39:50.280
<v Speaker 2>they shut off and the flash flash flash, literally like

3367
02:39:51.200 --> 02:39:53.879
<v Speaker 2>into the atmosphere gone, and it was like, what the

3368
02:39:53.920 --> 02:39:55.959
<v Speaker 2>heck was that that was? When it was like whoa,

3369
02:39:56.120 --> 02:39:56.600
<v Speaker 2>that was.

3370
02:39:58.760 --> 02:40:01.840
<v Speaker 3>Maybe no, no, that's might sounds similar to what I

3371
02:40:01.879 --> 02:40:04.959
<v Speaker 3>saw too, But we just chopped them up to weather balloons.

3372
02:40:05.000 --> 02:40:08.760
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it's even still weather balloons. For those out

3373
02:40:08.760 --> 02:40:12.159
<v Speaker 1>there that will try to discredit UFO sightings and say

3374
02:40:12.159 --> 02:40:15.120
<v Speaker 1>it's all weather balloons, bro, do you realize how rare

3375
02:40:15.239 --> 02:40:18.079
<v Speaker 1>it is for weather balloons to be used like they

3376
02:40:18.399 --> 02:40:19.840
<v Speaker 1>get used. Don't get me wrong, but it's not like

3377
02:40:19.920 --> 02:40:23.559
<v Speaker 1>every day. I've never seen one in my life, but

3378
02:40:23.639 --> 02:40:26.159
<v Speaker 1>like if you're living in an area where you have

3379
02:40:26.239 --> 02:40:28.280
<v Speaker 1>a well, I don't know how it is in the UK,

3380
02:40:28.399 --> 02:40:30.719
<v Speaker 1>but here we have like Norad right, and there's these

3381
02:40:30.799 --> 02:40:34.200
<v Speaker 1>uh the Noah Weather Services and things like that. It's like,

3382
02:40:34.280 --> 02:40:39.159
<v Speaker 1>if you're around an area where they're doing meteorological I

3383
02:40:39.239 --> 02:40:44.879
<v Speaker 1>made that word happen testing meteorology. Yeah, I know it meteorolologically.

3384
02:40:45.079 --> 02:40:47.200
<v Speaker 3>That doesn't sound anything like whatever.

3385
02:40:47.479 --> 02:40:49.879
<v Speaker 1>When they're doing weather testing and you know that there's

3386
02:40:50.319 --> 02:40:52.280
<v Speaker 1>there's a lab and like this is a place where

3387
02:40:52.280 --> 02:40:53.920
<v Speaker 1>they're doing this kind of testing. So you see a

3388
02:40:53.959 --> 02:40:57.280
<v Speaker 1>weather balloon go up once a month or something. Fine, Okay, Gil,

3389
02:40:57.360 --> 02:40:59.479
<v Speaker 1>that is not a thing that they have all over

3390
02:40:59.479 --> 02:41:02.239
<v Speaker 1>the country, and they certainly don't do it so frequently

3391
02:41:02.280 --> 02:41:04.760
<v Speaker 1>that it can write off every one of these experiences.

3392
02:41:05.079 --> 02:41:07.040
<v Speaker 3>So I much just want to live in the blissful

3393
02:41:07.040 --> 02:41:09.120
<v Speaker 3>piece of knowing that it was a weather balloon. Okay.

3394
02:41:09.600 --> 02:41:15.280
<v Speaker 3>Oh literally for decades I've been like, it's a weather balloon.

3395
02:41:15.440 --> 02:41:18.040
<v Speaker 3>But I guess I was, even though I was like,

3396
02:41:18.399 --> 02:41:21.479
<v Speaker 3>it probably wasn't because I've been so heavy into fantasy

3397
02:41:21.639 --> 02:41:24.520
<v Speaker 3>and mythology and all this stuff my entire life, and

3398
02:41:24.600 --> 02:41:27.639
<v Speaker 3>I've always questioned things in my own way. Not understanding

3399
02:41:27.639 --> 02:41:31.520
<v Speaker 3>like conspiracies was like a thing. But no, I definitely

3400
02:41:31.600 --> 02:41:33.639
<v Speaker 3>was always like it's just a weather balloon. I'm not

3401
02:41:33.639 --> 02:41:35.280
<v Speaker 3>going to talk about it. That's the first time I've

3402
02:41:35.319 --> 02:41:39.159
<v Speaker 3>ever actually shared that story really was on there just

3403
02:41:39.159 --> 02:41:41.239
<v Speaker 3>like a few months ago. Was the first time I've

3404
02:41:41.280 --> 02:41:44.000
<v Speaker 3>ever spoken about I actually today talking about the dip

3405
02:41:44.040 --> 02:41:46.000
<v Speaker 3>in the bed and all that I've actually never because

3406
02:41:46.000 --> 02:41:48.079
<v Speaker 3>if you really remember, I only talked about the shadow

3407
02:41:48.120 --> 02:41:52.040
<v Speaker 3>people last time. I don't normally talk about my paranormal

3408
02:41:53.319 --> 02:41:56.639
<v Speaker 3>because well, you know, it's just you make it. It makes you.

3409
02:41:56.799 --> 02:41:59.959
<v Speaker 3>For me personally, it's like I sound like a crazy person,

3410
02:42:00.680 --> 02:42:04.120
<v Speaker 3>and you know, you just don't. People listen to this

3411
02:42:04.200 --> 02:42:06.680
<v Speaker 3>and they're like, oh, so you're one of those type

3412
02:42:06.719 --> 02:42:11.319
<v Speaker 3>of people, and it's like, I promise you I wouldn't

3413
02:42:11.440 --> 02:42:14.680
<v Speaker 3>like to experience that because the pitfall feeling that you

3414
02:42:14.799 --> 02:42:17.799
<v Speaker 3>get when you see these scenings or experiencing these things,

3415
02:42:18.239 --> 02:42:22.440
<v Speaker 3>whether it be aliens, bigfoot, you know, entities, whatever, you

3416
02:42:22.520 --> 02:42:25.680
<v Speaker 3>get that like sinking feeling of like you realize, like

3417
02:42:25.799 --> 02:42:28.479
<v Speaker 3>we're not alone, there's something else out there. I can't

3418
02:42:28.520 --> 02:42:31.600
<v Speaker 3>control it, I can't explain it, and whatever is happening

3419
02:42:31.680 --> 02:42:35.079
<v Speaker 3>is out of my control and I'm just like experiencing this. Yeah,

3420
02:42:36.079 --> 02:42:38.000
<v Speaker 3>but then you don't really want to talk to your

3421
02:42:38.040 --> 02:42:39.840
<v Speaker 3>friends about it because then you've seem like an absolute

3422
02:42:39.920 --> 02:42:40.319
<v Speaker 3>nut job.

3423
02:42:40.399 --> 02:42:43.959
<v Speaker 1>So it's like, oh, you know so l for me, yeah,

3424
02:42:44.000 --> 02:42:47.239
<v Speaker 1>my my demon story. It took me a good few

3425
02:42:47.280 --> 02:42:49.799
<v Speaker 1>years to talk about that openly on the podcast, and

3426
02:42:49.840 --> 02:42:52.239
<v Speaker 1>it was like I was nervous to talk about.

3427
02:42:52.000 --> 02:42:53.920
<v Speaker 3>It, and you were really having a tough time, like

3428
02:42:54.000 --> 02:42:56.159
<v Speaker 3>you debated for months about.

3429
02:42:56.040 --> 02:42:59.280
<v Speaker 1>Bringing it up. For one, that's a super personal story

3430
02:42:59.440 --> 02:43:02.319
<v Speaker 1>it is to me, right, And for number two because

3431
02:43:02.360 --> 02:43:03.680
<v Speaker 1>same thing, I don't want to get looked at like

3432
02:43:03.719 --> 02:43:05.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm a crazy person. I know I'm crazy, Like I

3433
02:43:05.920 --> 02:43:08.840
<v Speaker 1>understand that, right, But this is also something that would

3434
02:43:08.840 --> 02:43:11.680
<v Speaker 1>go into the realm of like, Okay, somebody's gonna send

3435
02:43:11.680 --> 02:43:13.799
<v Speaker 1>a fucking psyche vow guy to my house. And I

3436
02:43:13.680 --> 02:43:15.760
<v Speaker 1>was I was very nervous about that for a good while.

3437
02:43:16.239 --> 02:43:19.719
<v Speaker 1>Then when I finally shared the story, I got no shit,

3438
02:43:20.239 --> 02:43:24.719
<v Speaker 1>hundreds of people dming me telling me their stories and

3439
02:43:24.719 --> 02:43:27.600
<v Speaker 1>how similar it was, and how they also it suffered

3440
02:43:28.079 --> 02:43:32.239
<v Speaker 1>not ghosts, not aliens, no confirmed demonic entities that were

3441
02:43:32.280 --> 02:43:34.360
<v Speaker 1>attached to them and their families and all of these

3442
02:43:34.399 --> 02:43:36.440
<v Speaker 1>things and what did work and what didn't work and

3443
02:43:36.479 --> 02:43:39.000
<v Speaker 1>all this, and I was like, oh man, So, if anything,

3444
02:43:39.040 --> 02:43:40.840
<v Speaker 1>it was a very positive thing for me to share

3445
02:43:40.840 --> 02:43:42.719
<v Speaker 1>it so that other people out there realized, like, no,

3446
02:43:42.840 --> 02:43:46.000
<v Speaker 1>you're not fucking crazy like what you see and it's

3447
02:43:46.000 --> 02:43:49.319
<v Speaker 1>not just your truth. No, this is a real thing

3448
02:43:49.360 --> 02:43:52.879
<v Speaker 1>that millions of people around the world deal with, apparently

3449
02:43:52.959 --> 02:43:54.120
<v Speaker 1>on a daily basis.

3450
02:43:54.600 --> 02:43:58.520
<v Speaker 3>And so well, the you know the watch my call,

3451
02:43:58.559 --> 02:44:04.440
<v Speaker 3>it just went out my head. Oh man, Well I

3452
02:44:04.479 --> 02:44:06.639
<v Speaker 3>was thinking about it. Deja vu, That's what I was

3453
02:44:06.719 --> 02:44:10.760
<v Speaker 3>thinking about. So I have like severely strong deja vu.

3454
02:44:10.959 --> 02:44:12.840
<v Speaker 3>I have it all the time. He's seen it where

3455
02:44:12.879 --> 02:44:14.799
<v Speaker 3>I've like stop in the middle of something and I'm like,

3456
02:44:14.840 --> 02:44:17.600
<v Speaker 3>I've I've already had this happen to me. And then

3457
02:44:17.799 --> 02:44:20.559
<v Speaker 3>I've always wanted to meet other people that I could

3458
02:44:20.600 --> 02:44:23.399
<v Speaker 3>talk to you about dreams and deja vu and stuff

3459
02:44:23.440 --> 02:44:26.840
<v Speaker 3>like that, because my dreams are so vivid down to

3460
02:44:27.680 --> 02:44:29.399
<v Speaker 3>I could tell you what I was eating, what it

3461
02:44:29.479 --> 02:44:31.520
<v Speaker 3>tasted like. I've never had it before in my life,

3462
02:44:31.639 --> 02:44:33.440
<v Speaker 3>but I could tell you exactly what this bowl is

3463
02:44:33.479 --> 02:44:37.079
<v Speaker 3>going to taste like. And you know, the I don't

3464
02:44:37.440 --> 02:44:40.239
<v Speaker 3>there's a story then I haven't really shared. I've given

3465
02:44:40.360 --> 02:44:42.319
<v Speaker 3>hints here and there, maybe one day I'll share like

3466
02:44:42.399 --> 02:44:46.319
<v Speaker 3>the actual story of it, but it's involves dreams and stuff,

3467
02:44:46.319 --> 02:44:48.280
<v Speaker 3>and I want to meet other people that are actually

3468
02:44:48.639 --> 02:44:51.719
<v Speaker 3>well versed in dream and I know there's like dreaminology.

3469
02:44:52.000 --> 02:44:55.239
<v Speaker 3>Is that a word? Is that a word for it yetology?

3470
02:44:56.239 --> 02:44:58.440
<v Speaker 3>And like I want to meet people that are actually

3471
02:44:58.440 --> 02:45:00.680
<v Speaker 3>in that field to talk to them about it, because

3472
02:45:01.200 --> 02:45:04.040
<v Speaker 3>it would be interesting to hear people that dream the

3473
02:45:04.040 --> 02:45:07.159
<v Speaker 3>same way I dream, because I've dreamed my death a

3474
02:45:07.280 --> 02:45:11.040
<v Speaker 3>hundred different ways. I mean I've been stabbed, shot, thrown

3475
02:45:11.079 --> 02:45:13.959
<v Speaker 3>out a building, let them fire, all those sorts of things,

3476
02:45:14.239 --> 02:45:17.079
<v Speaker 3>and you know, it's it's a weird thing because I

3477
02:45:17.120 --> 02:45:21.079
<v Speaker 3>remember physically the pain. I've woken up pouring sweat. I've

3478
02:45:21.079 --> 02:45:23.360
<v Speaker 3>woken up where I damn near jump out of my skin,

3479
02:45:23.520 --> 02:45:26.159
<v Speaker 3>like I can't go to sleep, and it's just, you know,

3480
02:45:26.239 --> 02:45:28.840
<v Speaker 3>it's one of those things. But when you are experiencing

3481
02:45:28.840 --> 02:45:30.840
<v Speaker 3>it all the time and for years and years. I

3482
02:45:30.879 --> 02:45:32.840
<v Speaker 3>mean I've had the dream since I was like four,

3483
02:45:33.319 --> 02:45:36.840
<v Speaker 3>and so to me, it's just, you know, whatever it's.

3484
02:45:37.079 --> 02:45:39.920
<v Speaker 3>And then I hear other people start talking about I'm like, oh.

3485
02:45:39.760 --> 02:45:40.719
<v Speaker 1>You're in the right line of work.

3486
02:45:41.120 --> 02:45:44.799
<v Speaker 3>Maybe because I never thought I was crazy. I just

3487
02:45:44.840 --> 02:45:47.959
<v Speaker 3>felt like, you know, I dance. I always felt like

3488
02:45:47.959 --> 02:45:51.200
<v Speaker 3>I dance a line between some type of paranormal like

3489
02:45:51.280 --> 02:45:54.559
<v Speaker 3>spiritual and whatever it is I'm feeling. And I'm also

3490
02:45:54.680 --> 02:45:57.639
<v Speaker 3>like really scared to go past a certain point. So

3491
02:45:57.719 --> 02:46:00.559
<v Speaker 3>it's I've never pushed too far. It's like, I'll read

3492
02:46:00.559 --> 02:46:02.120
<v Speaker 3>about it, but I'm not going to do anything to

3493
02:46:03.040 --> 02:46:04.399
<v Speaker 3>go over that line kind of thing.

3494
02:46:04.520 --> 02:46:07.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, he's not the dream world. You can't ignore

3495
02:46:07.600 --> 02:46:10.639
<v Speaker 2>the dreams. There's so much more to our dreams. You've

3496
02:46:10.639 --> 02:46:13.639
<v Speaker 2>got the paranormal, you've got conspiracies and stuff. You've got

3497
02:46:13.680 --> 02:46:16.280
<v Speaker 2>to put dreams in that bracket as well, because so

3498
02:46:16.360 --> 02:46:20.120
<v Speaker 2>many of these experiences something to do with the dream state.

3499
02:46:20.319 --> 02:46:23.200
<v Speaker 2>Wherever you are literally go into another realm. I don't

3500
02:46:23.200 --> 02:46:24.799
<v Speaker 2>know what it is, but there does seem to be

3501
02:46:25.280 --> 02:46:27.159
<v Speaker 2>a lot more going on with our dreams. They're not

3502
02:46:27.280 --> 02:46:30.360
<v Speaker 2>just always dreams. There's more going on.

3503
02:46:30.719 --> 02:46:33.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm so jealous of y'all. I'm so jealous of y'all.

3504
02:46:33.479 --> 02:46:36.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't dream. Maybe maybe once or twice a year

3505
02:46:36.399 --> 02:46:38.200
<v Speaker 1>I'll have a dream, but that's about it. Dude. When

3506
02:46:38.200 --> 02:46:40.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm asleep, I'm in a fucking coma. I've had like

3507
02:46:40.360 --> 02:46:43.799
<v Speaker 1>brain scans done on me while I sleep. I'm basically

3508
02:46:43.840 --> 02:46:46.680
<v Speaker 1>brain dead except for like making sure my lungs inflate

3509
02:46:46.760 --> 02:46:48.879
<v Speaker 1>my heart beat. My brain is like na, so we're

3510
02:46:48.879 --> 02:46:50.520
<v Speaker 1>taking a hard five hour coma.

3511
02:46:50.719 --> 02:46:53.639
<v Speaker 3>That's not me at all, like at all I wish,

3512
02:46:53.799 --> 02:46:56.399
<v Speaker 3>I mean, but I do believe. So I've never really

3513
02:46:56.399 --> 02:46:59.639
<v Speaker 3>looked super hard into ask for projection. I've read about

3514
02:46:59.639 --> 02:47:01.840
<v Speaker 3>it and stuff like that. But what's interesting is when

3515
02:47:01.840 --> 02:47:05.079
<v Speaker 3>I just started kind of glancing at it without having

3516
02:47:05.120 --> 02:47:09.559
<v Speaker 3>any background in it, I'm like, oh, so that's interesting

3517
02:47:09.680 --> 02:47:12.719
<v Speaker 3>because that's I could tell you like they're and it's

3518
02:47:12.760 --> 02:47:15.520
<v Speaker 3>not all dreams. It's every now and again. It's like

3519
02:47:15.639 --> 02:47:18.440
<v Speaker 3>I decide, it's like I get shot forward into like

3520
02:47:18.479 --> 02:47:21.799
<v Speaker 3>another place and then I'm doing I'm living a whole

3521
02:47:21.879 --> 02:47:24.200
<v Speaker 3>other life, but like my name's not the same, but

3522
02:47:24.440 --> 02:47:27.920
<v Speaker 3>I myself, I'm living like I actually like raised an

3523
02:47:28.079 --> 02:47:30.600
<v Speaker 3>entire family. I had a whole life in a dream.

3524
02:47:30.520 --> 02:47:31.079
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

3525
02:47:32.639 --> 02:47:34.440
<v Speaker 1>Trips. Honestly, I had an.

3526
02:47:34.479 --> 02:47:38.000
<v Speaker 3>Entire life from so it was weird because it wasn't.

3527
02:47:38.120 --> 02:47:40.559
<v Speaker 3>I remember being a kid in the dream, and I

3528
02:47:40.600 --> 02:47:43.559
<v Speaker 3>remember like brief like you know, like if you're looking

3529
02:47:43.600 --> 02:47:45.440
<v Speaker 3>at like a photograph and it's kind of going through

3530
02:47:45.440 --> 02:47:48.399
<v Speaker 3>photos I remember like snippets. And then it fast forward

3531
02:47:48.440 --> 02:47:50.000
<v Speaker 3>to when I was adult in the body that I

3532
02:47:50.040 --> 02:47:53.280
<v Speaker 3>have now, and I had a husband, I had kids,

3533
02:47:53.319 --> 02:47:56.920
<v Speaker 3>I lived in another place, I had a job, a career,

3534
02:47:57.000 --> 02:47:58.639
<v Speaker 3>I had all that. I had a dog and all

3535
02:47:58.680 --> 02:47:59.959
<v Speaker 3>this stuff. And I was like, I don't have a dog.

3536
02:48:00.239 --> 02:48:04.239
<v Speaker 3>But I'm like, okay, so what. And I live through

3537
02:48:04.319 --> 02:48:07.719
<v Speaker 3>the whole thing, like I experienced his death. I experienced

3538
02:48:07.799 --> 02:48:10.879
<v Speaker 3>like doing all this stuff, and I experienced getting old,

3539
02:48:10.920 --> 02:48:14.399
<v Speaker 3>I experienced had grandchildren. And then as I was dying,

3540
02:48:15.079 --> 02:48:17.360
<v Speaker 3>it was like all of a sudden, I could start

3541
02:48:17.399 --> 02:48:22.200
<v Speaker 3>to see like holes through the room around me, and

3542
02:48:22.239 --> 02:48:24.959
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, hey, wait a minute, that's this isn't my life.

3543
02:48:25.399 --> 02:48:27.959
<v Speaker 3>Who are these people? And I was saying that out loud,

3544
02:48:27.959 --> 02:48:30.600
<v Speaker 3>and everyone thought, you know, you're dying and I'm old,

3545
02:48:30.639 --> 02:48:32.959
<v Speaker 3>and you know, I'm like, who are you? You're not

3546
02:48:33.200 --> 02:48:37.479
<v Speaker 3>actually my family. And then I like fast forward into

3547
02:48:37.520 --> 02:48:40.440
<v Speaker 3>another like back into myself, and I woke up and

3548
02:48:40.520 --> 02:48:44.920
<v Speaker 3>I was like, okay, well that's that's a day. You know,

3549
02:48:45.000 --> 02:48:47.280
<v Speaker 3>that's a dream. And I have so I could tell

3550
02:48:47.319 --> 02:48:50.959
<v Speaker 3>you endless amounts of dreams that I have that it's

3551
02:48:51.040 --> 02:48:54.719
<v Speaker 3>just it's crazy. What but but I'm like, maybe because

3552
02:48:54.760 --> 02:48:56.600
<v Speaker 3>I read, you know, I read so much.

3553
02:48:57.520 --> 02:49:00.520
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I watch movies, you know, but a very active

3554
02:49:00.719 --> 02:49:01.440
<v Speaker 1>fantasy mind.

3555
02:49:01.559 --> 02:49:04.959
<v Speaker 3>I have a very highly imaginative mind and stuff. So

3556
02:49:05.000 --> 02:49:07.040
<v Speaker 3>maybe that's I've always thought, maybe that's why I have

3557
02:49:07.239 --> 02:49:08.399
<v Speaker 3>such vivid dreams.

3558
02:49:08.959 --> 02:49:11.719
<v Speaker 1>I really want Jonathan to hypnotize. You can see what happened.

3559
02:49:12.040 --> 02:49:15.159
<v Speaker 3>That's what he was talking about, being the thousandths, the

3560
02:49:15.239 --> 02:49:16.200
<v Speaker 3>thousand episode.

3561
02:49:16.360 --> 02:49:18.319
<v Speaker 1>Oh if that's gonna happen, and he's happened this weekend.

3562
02:49:18.399 --> 02:49:20.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's remember, because he was talking about doing that

3563
02:49:20.760 --> 02:49:22.959
<v Speaker 3>was to hypnotize me. I don't know how well it's

3564
02:49:22.959 --> 02:49:26.239
<v Speaker 3>going to go. I'm honestly pretty skeptical because I've had

3565
02:49:26.280 --> 02:49:28.559
<v Speaker 3>other people try to hypnotize me. But I have used

3566
02:49:28.600 --> 02:49:33.079
<v Speaker 3>hypnosis for birth. Actually, I listened to a lady for

3567
02:49:33.200 --> 02:49:36.600
<v Speaker 3>all the entire pregnancy, and it was just about simply

3568
02:49:36.719 --> 02:49:38.959
<v Speaker 3>changing my mindset when it came to birth and the

3569
02:49:39.000 --> 02:49:41.760
<v Speaker 3>fear aspect of it, and so I no longer feared birth.

3570
02:49:42.600 --> 02:49:45.399
<v Speaker 3>I changed like the wording so instead of contractions, you

3571
02:49:45.479 --> 02:49:48.280
<v Speaker 3>say waves and then like it pretty much is tricking

3572
02:49:48.319 --> 02:49:52.120
<v Speaker 3>your brain into rethinking how you're going to approach birth. Now,

3573
02:49:52.319 --> 02:49:55.200
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how a real hypnosis session would go,

3574
02:49:55.280 --> 02:49:57.079
<v Speaker 3>but I have had friends that have done it for

3575
02:49:57.239 --> 02:50:01.760
<v Speaker 3>PTSD and for like MSD, military sexual trauma and stuff

3576
02:50:01.760 --> 02:50:03.840
<v Speaker 3>like that I've had, I've known quite a few people

3577
02:50:03.879 --> 02:50:05.959
<v Speaker 3>that have used types of hypnosis for that.

3578
02:50:06.159 --> 02:50:11.639
<v Speaker 1>So my former co host, he is a licensed hypnotherapist

3579
02:50:11.760 --> 02:50:16.079
<v Speaker 1>who specializes in past life regressions. And I'm not even

3580
02:50:16.079 --> 02:50:19.000
<v Speaker 1>somebody who believes in reincarnation or past lives, but I

3581
02:50:19.399 --> 02:50:21.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, for years he was telling me like, dude,

3582
02:50:21.719 --> 02:50:23.520
<v Speaker 1>let me try. Let's just let me try to give

3583
02:50:23.520 --> 02:50:26.319
<v Speaker 1>you a past life regression. See what happens. It was cool,

3584
02:50:26.559 --> 02:50:29.319
<v Speaker 1>It was cool. Now I'm still not fully convinced that

3585
02:50:29.360 --> 02:50:31.920
<v Speaker 1>I saw a past life of mine or if that's

3586
02:50:31.959 --> 02:50:34.280
<v Speaker 1>what happens when Jacob's brain gets let off the leash

3587
02:50:34.280 --> 02:50:36.479
<v Speaker 1>and walks around a bit, and just this is what happens.

3588
02:50:36.520 --> 02:50:39.360
<v Speaker 1>Like either way it goes, it was a really fun experience,

3589
02:50:39.559 --> 02:50:42.200
<v Speaker 1>you know. So for you, I don't know, maybe you'd

3590
02:50:42.200 --> 02:50:43.639
<v Speaker 1>go back to one of these dreams, or maybe it'd

3591
02:50:43.639 --> 02:50:45.040
<v Speaker 1>be a completely nowhere I'd go.

3592
02:50:45.520 --> 02:50:47.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I already know where I go. The story that

3593
02:50:47.639 --> 02:50:49.479
<v Speaker 3>I was just saying that one day I might share.

3594
02:50:49.840 --> 02:50:51.920
<v Speaker 3>I already know where i'd go if it was going

3595
02:50:52.000 --> 02:50:53.920
<v Speaker 3>to be any place, I would go back to the

3596
02:50:53.959 --> 02:50:54.760
<v Speaker 3>life that I lived.

3597
02:50:54.840 --> 02:50:55.799
<v Speaker 1>You don't get to choose, though.

3598
02:50:55.799 --> 02:50:58.799
<v Speaker 3>That's the thing I guarantee. I know where I would

3599
02:50:58.799 --> 02:51:00.639
<v Speaker 3>go because I can tell you. I could tell you

3600
02:51:00.719 --> 02:51:03.440
<v Speaker 3>what everything tasted like, smelled like, I could tell you

3601
02:51:03.479 --> 02:51:05.959
<v Speaker 3>what the dirt beneath my feet felt like. I could

3602
02:51:05.959 --> 02:51:10.159
<v Speaker 3>tell you to like the exact everything. And I've dreamed

3603
02:51:10.159 --> 02:51:11.559
<v Speaker 3>this dream since I was four years old.

3604
02:51:11.879 --> 02:51:13.959
<v Speaker 2>Wow, So so you go to this place in the

3605
02:51:14.040 --> 02:51:15.840
<v Speaker 2>dream state on multiple.

3606
02:51:15.479 --> 02:51:20.600
<v Speaker 3>Nights, so I haven't been, so I go back to

3607
02:51:20.799 --> 02:51:24.360
<v Speaker 3>this dream probably like once a year, and it will

3608
02:51:24.440 --> 02:51:26.760
<v Speaker 3>just be a random so like I, you know, it

3609
02:51:26.760 --> 02:51:28.959
<v Speaker 3>will nothing will trigger it. Me talking about it's not

3610
02:51:29.000 --> 02:51:31.719
<v Speaker 3>going to trigger it. It will just be one night,

3611
02:51:33.079 --> 02:51:34.680
<v Speaker 3>you know. I know a lot of the times that

3612
02:51:34.680 --> 02:51:37.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm dreaming. Like Conception is a beautiful movie to me

3613
02:51:37.280 --> 02:51:39.959
<v Speaker 3>because it made so much sense in my mind, because

3614
02:51:40.280 --> 02:51:42.280
<v Speaker 3>I've been in dreams where I was in a dream

3615
02:51:42.319 --> 02:51:44.040
<v Speaker 3>and a dream and I knew that I was and

3616
02:51:44.079 --> 02:51:45.920
<v Speaker 3>I had to like fight my way to get out

3617
02:51:45.920 --> 02:51:49.799
<v Speaker 3>of it. But this in particular dream, it's like I

3618
02:51:49.959 --> 02:51:53.479
<v Speaker 3>just it's like I'm I'm longing for this home, this

3619
02:51:53.479 --> 02:51:56.879
<v Speaker 3>this place, and I just show up and it's it's

3620
02:51:56.920 --> 02:52:01.079
<v Speaker 3>not it's different images, like it's different times, Like it's

3621
02:52:01.159 --> 02:52:03.840
<v Speaker 3>it's when I was like in a field and like

3622
02:52:03.879 --> 02:52:07.000
<v Speaker 3>my family's behind me and I'm doing stuff, and it's

3623
02:52:07.040 --> 02:52:09.680
<v Speaker 3>like when I'm at war, and it's just it's different

3624
02:52:09.719 --> 02:52:14.639
<v Speaker 3>points that I go to. But it always starts at

3625
02:52:14.639 --> 02:52:17.600
<v Speaker 3>the same place every time since I was a kid,

3626
02:52:17.639 --> 02:52:19.879
<v Speaker 3>it starts the exact same place. I'm looking down on

3627
02:52:19.959 --> 02:52:23.239
<v Speaker 3>my feet. I'm actually barefoot in the dirt and I'm

3628
02:52:23.280 --> 02:52:26.319
<v Speaker 3>looking down and I I'm wearing and I don't know.

3629
02:52:26.319 --> 02:52:28.079
<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna go into the whole thing, but I

3630
02:52:28.120 --> 02:52:31.079
<v Speaker 3>know that I'm starting, like I start there, and it's

3631
02:52:31.200 --> 02:52:34.319
<v Speaker 3>every time I start there, and every time it ends

3632
02:52:34.360 --> 02:52:34.920
<v Speaker 3>with me dying.

3633
02:52:36.239 --> 02:52:38.799
<v Speaker 2>Every time there's there's so much possibilities to.

3634
02:52:39.120 --> 02:52:43.200
<v Speaker 3>It's it's crazy, and like the it's the whole dream

3635
02:52:43.200 --> 02:52:46.440
<v Speaker 3>in and of itself is just wild. And I've always

3636
02:52:46.520 --> 02:52:49.280
<v Speaker 3>dreamed it, and I thought I thought everybody dreamed like this. Honestly,

3637
02:52:49.440 --> 02:52:51.120
<v Speaker 3>up until like a few years ago, I was like,

3638
02:52:51.200 --> 02:52:54.479
<v Speaker 3>didn't don't everybody dream like this? I thought I thought

3639
02:52:54.479 --> 02:52:56.399
<v Speaker 3>we were all doing this. But that's why I do

3640
02:52:56.520 --> 02:53:00.319
<v Speaker 3>believe in reincarnation, past lives and stuff like that, because

3641
02:53:00.399 --> 02:53:05.559
<v Speaker 3>I firmly believe that I my soul spirit whatever. Maybe

3642
02:53:05.600 --> 02:53:08.360
<v Speaker 3>we were one time something else, and we were somebody

3643
02:53:08.360 --> 02:53:11.479
<v Speaker 3>else and we've already lived this whole life and whatever

3644
02:53:11.520 --> 02:53:14.559
<v Speaker 3>it is, this longing aspect is what drives me to

3645
02:53:14.600 --> 02:53:17.399
<v Speaker 3>go back to this dream and back to these people

3646
02:53:17.399 --> 02:53:21.040
<v Speaker 3>that I miss. And it just happens every now and again,

3647
02:53:21.120 --> 02:53:23.719
<v Speaker 3>and I pop back and it's like, oh, okay, well

3648
02:53:23.719 --> 02:53:26.280
<v Speaker 3>I'm back here again, and I actually really enjoy it

3649
02:53:26.360 --> 02:53:29.559
<v Speaker 3>because I was so at peace in the beginning. I

3650
02:53:29.639 --> 02:53:31.879
<v Speaker 3>was so at peace with what's going on and everything

3651
02:53:31.920 --> 02:53:34.399
<v Speaker 3>around me, and hearing the voices, like I hear my

3652
02:53:34.840 --> 02:53:37.719
<v Speaker 3>son's laughter in the background, not my actual children. Now

3653
02:53:37.799 --> 02:53:42.520
<v Speaker 3>I hear my child then, And like it's weird how

3654
02:53:42.559 --> 02:53:45.600
<v Speaker 3>it just kind of plays out overall, and I just

3655
02:53:45.639 --> 02:53:48.479
<v Speaker 3>feel really happy during that time. Obviously it shifts back

3656
02:53:48.479 --> 02:53:52.000
<v Speaker 3>into the wartime and stuff, but like I'm highly adrenalized.

3657
02:53:52.479 --> 02:53:56.000
<v Speaker 3>I experience so many different things, and then when I die.

3658
02:53:56.440 --> 02:53:59.239
<v Speaker 3>It's interesting because when I die each time, I die

3659
02:53:59.280 --> 02:54:02.280
<v Speaker 3>the same same way every time, but when I die

3660
02:54:02.520 --> 02:54:05.440
<v Speaker 3>I think of different things every time, and it's like

3661
02:54:05.479 --> 02:54:08.559
<v Speaker 3>the two worlds blend together, my past my present, and

3662
02:54:08.600 --> 02:54:10.760
<v Speaker 3>it kind of all blends in the between the different

3663
02:54:10.840 --> 02:54:13.280
<v Speaker 3>dreams I've had where I was different people. It kind

3664
02:54:13.280 --> 02:54:16.840
<v Speaker 3>of like filters through like I've been multiple people throughout

3665
02:54:16.959 --> 02:54:17.680
<v Speaker 3>human history.

3666
02:54:18.159 --> 02:54:24.799
<v Speaker 1>Soob you're among friends. As far as the Nutjob.

3667
02:54:24.520 --> 02:54:28.639
<v Speaker 2>Conversations space, this is a safe space. I've had weird

3668
02:54:28.680 --> 02:54:30.680
<v Speaker 2>dreams where you wake up and it doesn't feel like

3669
02:54:30.760 --> 02:54:33.879
<v Speaker 2>a normal dream. Like you wake up sometimes you're like

3670
02:54:34.000 --> 02:54:36.399
<v Speaker 2>that was a weird dream, but it's gone. And then

3671
02:54:36.440 --> 02:54:38.840
<v Speaker 2>sometimes you wake up and it actually affects your day,

3672
02:54:38.879 --> 02:54:42.040
<v Speaker 2>Like I've had that what the heck was that on about?

3673
02:54:42.079 --> 02:54:44.399
<v Speaker 2>And it felt so real. It felt like I had

3674
02:54:44.399 --> 02:54:46.600
<v Speaker 2>a dream. This is This is a random dream I had,

3675
02:54:46.639 --> 02:54:49.799
<v Speaker 2>but I was liking, like army gear, black ops or

3676
02:54:49.959 --> 02:54:52.239
<v Speaker 2>suit and I'm with another group of guys and we're

3677
02:54:52.280 --> 02:54:55.319
<v Speaker 2>going through a building and there's some there's another army

3678
02:54:55.440 --> 02:54:59.000
<v Speaker 2>chasing us, and eventually we're and I'm going deep. Eventually

3679
02:54:59.000 --> 02:55:01.280
<v Speaker 2>we're hiding and they find us, and it's like it

3680
02:55:01.360 --> 02:55:03.959
<v Speaker 2>was the most dread it was. I was so scared. Yeah,

3681
02:55:04.120 --> 02:55:06.440
<v Speaker 2>woke up in the morning and I was like, what

3682
02:55:06.479 --> 02:55:09.159
<v Speaker 2>the heck was that dream all about? You know, it

3683
02:55:09.200 --> 02:55:11.000
<v Speaker 2>was more, it felt like more than just a dream.

3684
02:55:11.040 --> 02:55:13.360
<v Speaker 2>It felt so real, and I was like, I need

3685
02:55:13.440 --> 02:55:15.360
<v Speaker 2>to start stop looking into conspiracies and stuff.

3686
02:55:15.399 --> 02:55:15.559
<v Speaker 1>You know.

3687
02:55:15.600 --> 02:55:17.719
<v Speaker 2>Maybe you know that kind of.

3688
02:55:19.200 --> 02:55:22.440
<v Speaker 3>Reminds me of Jonathan's So John Jonathan is the other

3689
02:55:23.239 --> 02:55:25.760
<v Speaker 3>that used to be his co host, and uh, he

3690
02:55:25.840 --> 02:55:28.079
<v Speaker 3>was just talking about how he believes everything is of

3691
02:55:28.319 --> 02:55:31.440
<v Speaker 3>one mind, like we're all of the hive mind from

3692
02:55:31.479 --> 02:55:34.360
<v Speaker 3>a mind. Well, what if like somehow, just I don't

3693
02:55:34.399 --> 02:55:35.959
<v Speaker 3>know why this just thought I thought of this. What

3694
02:55:36.040 --> 02:55:39.000
<v Speaker 3>if when we're dreaming, we somehow get into other people's

3695
02:55:39.120 --> 02:55:42.360
<v Speaker 3>lives and like we're seeing through their eyes. Maybe we're

3696
02:55:42.399 --> 02:55:44.760
<v Speaker 3>just in a we're living some type of in one

3697
02:55:44.799 --> 02:55:47.520
<v Speaker 3>type of dimension that's happening. What if we're somehow all

3698
02:55:47.520 --> 02:55:48.559
<v Speaker 3>interconnected like that.

3699
02:55:49.079 --> 02:55:50.559
<v Speaker 1>There's a million possibilities.

3700
02:55:50.719 --> 02:55:52.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean, but I've never actually met somebody that's like,

3701
02:55:53.120 --> 02:55:55.719
<v Speaker 3>really really well versed in dreams, because I would love

3702
02:55:55.799 --> 02:55:58.799
<v Speaker 3>to ask him, what the hell does any of this mean?

3703
02:55:59.200 --> 02:56:02.040
<v Speaker 3>I dream my grandma I had cancer for a year

3704
02:56:02.079 --> 02:56:05.680
<v Speaker 3>and hounded her every single day to go into the doctor,

3705
02:56:05.719 --> 02:56:08.399
<v Speaker 3>and she went multiple She went eight times before they

3706
02:56:08.879 --> 02:56:11.040
<v Speaker 3>decided to tell her that she had stayed for stage

3707
02:56:11.079 --> 02:56:14.719
<v Speaker 3>four cancer. And I dreamed her dying. I knew that

3708
02:56:14.760 --> 02:56:17.600
<v Speaker 3>she like I knew she was sick. Same with my dad,

3709
02:56:17.959 --> 02:56:19.879
<v Speaker 3>I was. I knew when he was going to die

3710
02:56:19.920 --> 02:56:22.399
<v Speaker 3>around about and I got the call and I had

3711
02:56:22.399 --> 02:56:24.959
<v Speaker 3>already known, and I was. I dreamed it though, over

3712
02:56:25.000 --> 02:56:27.760
<v Speaker 3>and over again, and it's like, I don't know if

3713
02:56:28.000 --> 02:56:29.840
<v Speaker 3>And I hope that some of my dreams aren't real

3714
02:56:29.879 --> 02:56:34.680
<v Speaker 3>because they are scarier than all hell. I mean, scary, scary,

3715
02:56:34.799 --> 02:56:37.440
<v Speaker 3>and so I hope, like you know, not everything is

3716
02:56:37.479 --> 02:56:40.399
<v Speaker 3>real and it doesn't seem like it, but it definitely

3717
02:56:40.479 --> 02:56:42.920
<v Speaker 3>is weird how dreams come about? And why do some

3718
02:56:42.959 --> 02:56:45.280
<v Speaker 3>people dream more than other people? Why do you not

3719
02:56:45.319 --> 02:56:48.000
<v Speaker 3>hardly dream? Why do I dream so much? I just

3720
02:56:48.040 --> 02:56:51.840
<v Speaker 3>wonder about dreams overall. So maybe if any cult members

3721
02:56:51.879 --> 02:56:54.840
<v Speaker 3>know and they're listening, send me the campo.

3722
02:56:56.079 --> 02:56:58.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a lot more going on that it's for sure,

3723
02:56:58.680 --> 02:56:59.799
<v Speaker 2>doubt even a wild world.

3724
02:56:59.799 --> 02:57:03.559
<v Speaker 1>God in the wild wild world we do, and thankfully

3725
02:57:03.639 --> 02:57:05.680
<v Speaker 1>we have the best job ever where we just get

3726
02:57:05.719 --> 02:57:09.440
<v Speaker 1>to sit and talk about it, which is sick. As

3727
02:57:09.440 --> 02:57:11.799
<v Speaker 1>we get ready to wrap up here, Tommy, thank you

3728
02:57:11.840 --> 02:57:13.959
<v Speaker 1>for coming on the show today. Give yourself all the

3729
02:57:13.959 --> 02:57:16.520
<v Speaker 1>shameless plugs. Where can the good people find you? Where

3730
02:57:16.559 --> 02:57:19.280
<v Speaker 1>can they message you? Where can they listen to your content?

3731
02:57:19.479 --> 02:57:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Give all the shameless plugs.

3732
02:57:21.520 --> 02:57:23.719
<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much, guys. It's been a pleasure sitting

3733
02:57:23.719 --> 02:57:26.559
<v Speaker 2>with you. Say it's gone so quick. Yeah, I'm definitely

3734
02:57:26.600 --> 02:57:30.799
<v Speaker 2>a cult member from now. This has been such a

3735
02:57:30.840 --> 02:57:33.639
<v Speaker 2>fun conversation. We've gone everywhere. I don't normally get to

3736
02:57:33.680 --> 02:57:36.120
<v Speaker 2>get super political, so that was quite nice to actually

3737
02:57:36.760 --> 02:57:39.280
<v Speaker 2>let myself go a little bit. But I've loved talking

3738
02:57:39.280 --> 02:57:42.319
<v Speaker 2>to you, so thank you. I am wherever you find podcasts.

3739
02:57:42.399 --> 02:57:45.799
<v Speaker 2>Let's get Freaky podcasts, you'll see my little ginger cartoon

3740
02:57:45.920 --> 02:57:48.079
<v Speaker 2>face with a ghosts and a big foot of an alien.

3741
02:57:49.200 --> 02:57:52.040
<v Speaker 2>Wherever you Apple podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, wherever you listen

3742
02:57:52.079 --> 02:57:54.719
<v Speaker 2>to podcasts. We're also on YouTube now as well, so

3743
02:57:54.760 --> 02:57:56.559
<v Speaker 2>you can watch some of the episodes there as well.

3744
02:57:56.760 --> 02:58:00.159
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, thank you so much, guys.

3745
02:58:00.319 --> 02:58:02.159
<v Speaker 2>I'd love to get you guys on Let's get freaky

3746
02:58:02.360 --> 02:58:04.840
<v Speaker 2>absolutely man. Of course we can get into dreams and

3747
02:58:04.840 --> 02:58:05.680
<v Speaker 2>every feet there as well.

3748
02:58:05.760 --> 02:58:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Hell yeah, yeah, dude, absolutely For all the good cult

3749
02:58:09.000 --> 02:58:11.639
<v Speaker 1>members that are just listening to us for this whole pod,

3750
02:58:11.680 --> 02:58:14.840
<v Speaker 1>and you'd like to see us rather than just listen

3751
02:58:14.879 --> 02:58:16.600
<v Speaker 1>to us, you need to come check us out at

3752
02:58:16.600 --> 02:58:19.159
<v Speaker 1>patreon dot com slash Cult to Conspiracy podcast. That is

3753
02:58:19.200 --> 02:58:24.760
<v Speaker 1>the only place to get these shows absolutely coal form.

3754
02:58:25.200 --> 02:58:26.799
<v Speaker 1>But also it is the only place to get the

3755
02:58:26.879 --> 02:58:29.760
<v Speaker 1>video footage and to see all the articles, the video clips,

3756
02:58:29.760 --> 02:58:31.879
<v Speaker 1>our guests and all the things. But we have a

3757
02:58:31.920 --> 02:58:34.120
<v Speaker 1>couple of tiers for entry over there. Just everything I

3758
02:58:34.200 --> 02:58:36.120
<v Speaker 1>just listened is for that five dollars a month tier

3759
02:58:36.159 --> 02:58:38.079
<v Speaker 1>Cult member tier. But if you go to that Third

3760
02:58:38.079 --> 02:58:39.719
<v Speaker 1>Eye All the Way Open tier, you will also get

3761
02:58:39.719 --> 02:58:41.799
<v Speaker 1>to join us every Tuesday night for our cult member

3762
02:58:41.879 --> 02:58:44.680
<v Speaker 1>live events every Tuesday night at nine pm Central. It's

3763
02:58:44.719 --> 02:58:46.319
<v Speaker 1>always a blast, and if you listen to the show,

3764
02:58:46.319 --> 02:58:48.639
<v Speaker 1>you know that we release that as an independent episode

3765
02:58:48.680 --> 02:58:51.840
<v Speaker 1>later on in the week. It is unhinged, it's conspiratorial,

3766
02:58:51.959 --> 02:58:54.040
<v Speaker 1>it's whatever the hell we make of it. Honestly, our

3767
02:58:54.079 --> 02:58:57.239
<v Speaker 1>good cult members are some of the most craziest but

3768
02:58:57.360 --> 02:58:59.399
<v Speaker 1>also some of the best human beings I think we

3769
02:58:59.440 --> 02:59:02.639
<v Speaker 1>could have ever accumulated into our little our little tribe.

3770
02:59:02.639 --> 02:59:04.600
<v Speaker 1>If you will also with a Third Eye all the

3771
02:59:04.600 --> 02:59:07.440
<v Speaker 1>Way Open to your raven Lee has a side project

3772
02:59:07.440 --> 02:59:09.239
<v Speaker 1>that will be available to you. Go ahead and talk

3773
02:59:09.280 --> 02:59:09.920
<v Speaker 1>to them about it.

3774
02:59:10.559 --> 02:59:13.799
<v Speaker 3>We have our book club. Here's a book that we're reading.

3775
02:59:13.920 --> 02:59:16.760
<v Speaker 3>It is How Jesus Became God. This is going to

3776
02:59:16.760 --> 02:59:20.319
<v Speaker 3>be our first book, and so we start February first.

3777
02:59:20.479 --> 02:59:22.399
<v Speaker 3>We're going to break it down two chapters a week

3778
02:59:22.399 --> 02:59:24.360
<v Speaker 3>for the entire month. We're going to have a live

3779
02:59:24.520 --> 02:59:26.959
<v Speaker 3>that is going to be exclusively for Patreon. It's not

3780
02:59:27.000 --> 02:59:29.719
<v Speaker 3>going to be released to everybody, and we are going

3781
02:59:29.760 --> 02:59:33.799
<v Speaker 3>to break down what we think about this book. It's

3782
02:59:33.799 --> 02:59:36.920
<v Speaker 3>actually interesting. I just started. I listened to three chapters

3783
02:59:36.920 --> 02:59:39.600
<v Speaker 3>this morning, and so I can see how you might

3784
02:59:39.639 --> 02:59:44.520
<v Speaker 3>not vibe with it. Right, it's not an echo Christian

3785
02:59:44.559 --> 02:59:45.120
<v Speaker 3>echo chamber.

3786
02:59:45.159 --> 02:59:47.440
<v Speaker 1>I'll say that this is very much an anti Christian book.

3787
02:59:47.479 --> 02:59:49.280
<v Speaker 1>I should go ahead and give that distinction.

3788
02:59:49.479 --> 02:59:53.079
<v Speaker 3>It is an interesting, interesting theories and thought process. So

3789
02:59:53.159 --> 02:59:55.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm curious to see what the cult members are going

3790
02:59:55.079 --> 02:59:56.959
<v Speaker 3>to say. So it's going to be an open I

3791
02:59:56.959 --> 03:00:00.319
<v Speaker 3>will be pretty much hosting it and asking very very

3792
03:00:00.879 --> 03:00:02.799
<v Speaker 3>specific questions and then we're just gonna have a free

3793
03:00:02.840 --> 03:00:04.680
<v Speaker 3>for all and have fun. So it's gonna be Sunday night,

3794
03:00:04.799 --> 03:00:07.559
<v Speaker 3>nine pm, and we're gonna do it for however long

3795
03:00:07.600 --> 03:00:08.200
<v Speaker 3>we feel.

3796
03:00:08.000 --> 03:00:10.479
<v Speaker 1>Like it, and that is only for the Patreon of

3797
03:00:10.559 --> 03:00:13.000
<v Speaker 1>the Third Eye All the Way Open tier, but also

3798
03:00:13.120 --> 03:00:15.959
<v Speaker 1>we do have a Maniac Tier that is the top tier,

3799
03:00:16.000 --> 03:00:17.799
<v Speaker 1>and with that you will get exclusive merch. You will

3800
03:00:17.799 --> 03:00:20.520
<v Speaker 1>get a care package sent to you. We are getting

3801
03:00:20.520 --> 03:00:22.799
<v Speaker 1>the shirts made as we speak, and these are some

3802
03:00:22.879 --> 03:00:25.280
<v Speaker 1>of the some of the stickers on screen right now

3803
03:00:25.319 --> 03:00:27.399
<v Speaker 1>that we have that we have developed. They are awesome.

3804
03:00:27.440 --> 03:00:28.680
<v Speaker 1>We have a year's worth that we're going to send

3805
03:00:28.680 --> 03:00:30.440
<v Speaker 1>to all the good cult members of that Maniac tier,

3806
03:00:30.479 --> 03:00:32.520
<v Speaker 1>So come check us out Patreon dot com, slash Cult

3807
03:00:32.520 --> 03:00:35.520
<v Speaker 1>to Conspiracy Podcast. Another way to support the show, and

3808
03:00:35.600 --> 03:00:38.159
<v Speaker 1>also is support your own financial future and freedom is

3809
03:00:38.159 --> 03:00:40.159
<v Speaker 1>to get invested in gold and silver bullion. The best

3810
03:00:40.200 --> 03:00:41.680
<v Speaker 1>place to get your start there would be go to

3811
03:00:41.719 --> 03:00:44.680
<v Speaker 1>the link of the description to cocsilver dot com. Listen,

3812
03:00:44.680 --> 03:00:46.639
<v Speaker 1>talk to your financial advisor, Talk to your CPA and

3813
03:00:46.680 --> 03:00:48.319
<v Speaker 1>ask them if they believe silver and gold is a

3814
03:00:48.360 --> 03:00:50.600
<v Speaker 1>wise investment for the future. I promise they're going to

3815
03:00:50.639 --> 03:00:52.239
<v Speaker 1>tell you that at least a portion of your retirement

3816
03:00:52.239 --> 03:00:55.000
<v Speaker 1>portfolio needs to be invested in precious metals while it's

3817
03:00:55.000 --> 03:00:56.959
<v Speaker 1>still affordable. The best place to get your start once

3818
03:00:56.959 --> 03:01:00.360
<v Speaker 1>again cecsilver dot com link in the description below, but

3819
03:01:00.479 --> 03:01:02.280
<v Speaker 1>another way to support the show, good cult members and

3820
03:01:02.319 --> 03:01:04.159
<v Speaker 1>let everybody know what you thought about this episode would

3821
03:01:04.239 --> 03:01:06.680
<v Speaker 1>be too Please hit the five stars, hit the shares

3822
03:01:06.680 --> 03:01:09.280
<v Speaker 1>of licenscribes, comments, legal postly reviewers, shares, hit their fifth family,

3823
03:01:09.280 --> 03:01:11.319
<v Speaker 1>shares that we're here's the deal. The more activity the

3824
03:01:11.360 --> 03:01:13.760
<v Speaker 1>algorithm sees across all of our listening platforms, the more

3825
03:01:13.760 --> 03:01:15.959
<v Speaker 1>we get promoted, more potential listeners who could then become

3826
03:01:15.959 --> 03:01:18.479
<v Speaker 1>potential cult members. Addressed you finally, as and gentlemen, why

3827
03:01:18.479 --> 03:01:20.280
<v Speaker 1>are you gonna go check out minimistics shnthons of the

3828
03:01:20.280 --> 03:01:21.760
<v Speaker 1>show and getting the same lever respect over there with

3829
03:01:21.760 --> 03:01:23.520
<v Speaker 1>the five star reviews and the positivity in the comments.

3830
03:01:23.639 --> 03:01:25.559
<v Speaker 1>Come check out the Cage to Night and come join

3831
03:01:25.639 --> 03:01:27.840
<v Speaker 1>each of us for our individual Patreon liz weos every

3832
03:01:27.840 --> 03:01:29.879
<v Speaker 1>Wednesday night, nine pm Central. Links to those in the

3833
03:01:29.959 --> 03:01:32.200
<v Speaker 1>description as well, And while you're ready, go check out

3834
03:01:32.239 --> 03:01:35.040
<v Speaker 1>Let's Get Freaky podcast. Give them the five star reviews,

3835
03:01:35.040 --> 03:01:37.840
<v Speaker 1>give them the positivity. Let's boost these algorithms. People, and

3836
03:01:37.920 --> 03:01:39.719
<v Speaker 1>we thank you for everybody's already gone and have done so.

3837
03:01:40.079 --> 03:01:42.319
<v Speaker 1>And with all of this being said, this was another

3838
03:01:42.360 --> 03:01:45.920
<v Speaker 1>beautiful episode of the Cult of Conspiracy. And I am

3839
03:01:45.920 --> 03:01:48.600
<v Speaker 1>the Caja Knight, I'm ravingly and there's one very important,

3840
03:01:48.600 --> 03:01:50.600
<v Speaker 1>extremely vital piece of information we need you to learn

3841
03:01:50.719 --> 03:01:57.280
<v Speaker 1>just as soon as humanly possible.

3842
03:02:03.079 --> 03:02:11.479
<v Speaker 2>Sames speaks
