1
00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,080
Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice,

2
00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:08,960
mix in some vodka. Color a podcast from the Mac

3
00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,679
of All Trade Studio in Fairport and driven by Victor

4
00:00:12,759 --> 00:00:17,800
Chrysler Dots Gee Brahm. It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast.

5
00:00:30,199 --> 00:00:32,240
Speaker 2: Well, hello and welcome.

6
00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,479
Speaker 3: Thanks for getting your pot on. Thank you for telling

7
00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:40,320
a friend, Tell your friends. This is where we're talking

8
00:00:40,359 --> 00:00:41,280
about stuff.

9
00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:43,320
Speaker 2: Stuff. That's right.

10
00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,799
Speaker 3: There was a big change in Rochester radio. I have

11
00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:53,320
gotten numerous calls and numerous questions, and people want me

12
00:00:53,359 --> 00:00:56,920
to talk about behind the scenes, what really happened, And

13
00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,280
I'll tell you. I'll give it to you as straight

14
00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,799
as I can from my opinion, of course, and remember

15
00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:04,439
that's going to be my opinion. But one of the

16
00:01:04,439 --> 00:01:07,640
big changes is that Brother Wes announced that he was retiring. Now,

17
00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:11,760
when a guy like Weez retires, it's normally they have

18
00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:13,200
a parade or a year.

19
00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:15,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm retiring any year, you got it.

20
00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,680
Speaker 3: You got it. The soldiers here. But I thought it

21
00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,599
would be fun to kind of just talk about and

22
00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,959
talk to people who had spent significant time with Brother Weez,

23
00:01:26,439 --> 00:01:29,359
and one of those people is rich the Bolgenzler, who

24
00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,159
was a part of Weis's show in the early nineties,

25
00:01:32,239 --> 00:01:35,000
right bowl, and then you went to Afternoons in like

26
00:01:35,079 --> 00:01:35,879
ninety four.

27
00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that I'm too old to remember my

28
00:01:39,519 --> 00:01:42,400
chronology in my timeline, and my resume is not updated,

29
00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:47,599
so it should be. But yeah, no, I started in

30
00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,159
like eighty nine and worked with we'z probably for three

31
00:01:50,239 --> 00:01:53,799
or four years through Winton Road. So I was Wee'z's

32
00:01:53,799 --> 00:01:56,480
producer for a while before I started doing Afternoons with

33
00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:03,159
BJ And Yeah, I mean, Weez was. It's odd because

34
00:02:04,159 --> 00:02:06,000
I wanted to be more of an air quote DJ,

35
00:02:06,079 --> 00:02:07,640
and I kind of became that, and then it became

36
00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,960
more of a personality as my career evolved, right, So

37
00:02:11,039 --> 00:02:14,039
like Heino was like my guy, Like Caina was like

38
00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,280
my DJ mentor right right, And then I got in

39
00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,879
with Weez, who was you know, even that early in

40
00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:21,960
his career, he was.

41
00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:23,280
Speaker 5: Already pretty legendary.

42
00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,599
Speaker 4: I mean he was setting the mark, you know, five

43
00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,280
six years into the business and only maybe you know

44
00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,680
that amount of time into doing mornings. He was set

45
00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:36,159
in the tone everybody was following. No one could compete

46
00:02:36,199 --> 00:02:38,199
with him. I mean it was pretty ridiculous. So why

47
00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,520
not you know, attached my horse to that, or my Yeah,

48
00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,960
I attached my horse to that and then or my cart

49
00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,840
to that. And then you know, I was that guy

50
00:02:48,879 --> 00:02:50,599
and you were probably that too when you were interning

51
00:02:51,319 --> 00:02:53,639
that you did whatever was asked, like you were there

52
00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,360
all day, every day. It didn't matter how many credits

53
00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,039
you were getting or how many hours you were supposed

54
00:02:58,039 --> 00:03:00,439
to put in. You were there a this is what

55
00:03:00,439 --> 00:03:01,919
you wanted to do and be because you wanted to

56
00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:02,560
learn and see.

57
00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,120
Speaker 5: It was really freaking fun.

58
00:03:06,319 --> 00:03:10,120
Speaker 3: It was. It was fun. And I yeah, I mean

59
00:03:10,159 --> 00:03:14,240
I I got in doing weekend. It's my senior year

60
00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,680
at Fisher, so that's how I got in there. And

61
00:03:16,719 --> 00:03:18,639
I was I had I had been on the radio

62
00:03:18,719 --> 00:03:21,280
in my hometown and stuff, but I had heard of

63
00:03:21,319 --> 00:03:27,360
weez because the morning guy there just worshiped him, thought

64
00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,680
he was the greatest thing. And I just to interject

65
00:03:30,719 --> 00:03:35,039
for a second, Dave Kine posted a thing on Facebook

66
00:03:35,159 --> 00:03:39,240
yesterday that I thought really summed up Weeze, maybe better

67
00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,360
than anybody has. It says you were the unlikeliest and

68
00:03:42,439 --> 00:03:46,360
most uncommon and unconventional radio personality in Western New York

69
00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:51,719
and elsewhere. You've enjoyed unprecedented and unparalleled success. Your legacy

70
00:03:51,759 --> 00:03:56,199
includes unmatched and unbelievable run of consistent rating success that

71
00:03:56,319 --> 00:03:59,199
continued for years. Whether it was The Brother Weeze Morning Circus,

72
00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:05,280
Radio Free Wiez, or The Wei Show, your broadcasts were uncompromising, unbridled, unpredictable,

73
00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:09,680
and uncensored. Your charitable efforts and your unwaving support and

74
00:04:09,759 --> 00:04:13,439
promotion of Rochester will never go unrecognized. And now it's

75
00:04:13,479 --> 00:04:16,360
time to unplug. I thought, but I mean I thought

76
00:04:16,399 --> 00:04:20,639
that unconventional. I mean he was uncommon and unconventional. You

77
00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,040
did not hear guys like Weez on the radio.

78
00:04:23,199 --> 00:04:26,879
Speaker 4: No, you didn't hear guys like him with his voice.

79
00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,079
I mean, he was just not Yeah, he was just

80
00:04:29,079 --> 00:04:30,199
not a radio guy at all.

81
00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:30,959
Speaker 5: He just talked.

82
00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,920
Speaker 4: He was the epitome of talk radio. He was what

83
00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,920
talk radio sort of became, right, I mean absolutely, talk

84
00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:44,879
radio was primarily news talk until you know, you started

85
00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,600
event well obviously Stern was in the mix, right, but

86
00:04:48,399 --> 00:04:50,480
you know, there were only a handful of people doing

87
00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:54,720
that kind of radio, and he really kind of sort

88
00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,240
of set the tone for what was sort of, in

89
00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,839
my opinion, the heyday of radio for about I don't

90
00:04:59,879 --> 00:05:03,360
know twenty years ish until corporate America got involved and

91
00:05:03,399 --> 00:05:08,639
ruined it. But yeah, I mean he he did it

92
00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,399
out of his own He did it his own way,

93
00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,199
He did his own things, He did his own way.

94
00:05:13,959 --> 00:05:15,959
Speaker 5: To unbridled is a great term for him.

95
00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, because as his produce, like, it was great being

96
00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,160
a air quote personality, sports guy or whatever you wanted

97
00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:23,839
to be to me, to be the kid that you

98
00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:25,279
beat up, it didn't matter whatever.

99
00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,720
Speaker 5: That was great, But producing him was tough.

100
00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,240
Speaker 4: Producing him was really tough because you know, you thought

101
00:05:32,519 --> 00:05:34,600
along the way, having spent some time with him, that

102
00:05:34,639 --> 00:05:37,319
you kind of knew his flow and what he liked

103
00:05:37,319 --> 00:05:40,160
and didn't and what might fit in not And in

104
00:05:40,319 --> 00:05:43,199
doing that, you know you and having that knowledge, you

105
00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,040
would be like, well, I think this would be great here,

106
00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:46,519
this would be a great interview here, this would.

107
00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:47,959
Speaker 5: Be a great bit. Blah blah blah blah blah. And

108
00:05:48,319 --> 00:05:52,240
numerous times he's like, raw, what are we doing here? What?

109
00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:52,360
Speaker 3: What?

110
00:05:52,519 --> 00:05:54,759
Speaker 5: Why? Why do we said that? Who is this? But good? Good,

111
00:05:54,759 --> 00:05:55,079
good good?

112
00:05:55,079 --> 00:05:56,439
Speaker 4: You know, like all that and the other thing too

113
00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,720
with we'ves, which was pretty famous for him and for

114
00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,680
a lot of the best people media. They literally just

115
00:06:01,759 --> 00:06:04,519
literally I'll call it this set but the studio walk

116
00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,959
in and go right. I mean he was, he was,

117
00:06:07,519 --> 00:06:10,040
and somebody else posted this recently.

118
00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,439
Speaker 5: He was a storyteller, end of story. Yes, he was

119
00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:13,680
a storyteller.

120
00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,319
Speaker 4: Yes, And the stories that he had to tell were

121
00:06:16,439 --> 00:06:17,720
absolutely remarkable.

122
00:06:17,759 --> 00:06:22,759
Speaker 5: And the times that he lived in were so.

123
00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,279
Speaker 4: Applicable to the times he broadcasting, if that makes sense.

124
00:06:26,319 --> 00:06:29,959
So yes, he shared similar memories to so many of

125
00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,319
his listeners. And then I think he also, you know,

126
00:06:33,439 --> 00:06:37,759
day to day, every day was every day was different,

127
00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,120
going back to you know, you're taught in radio, especially

128
00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,639
nowadays when you have that kind of a show. Dad

129
00:06:43,639 --> 00:06:46,000
would called benchmark bits right where you're doing something every

130
00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,360
single day at the same time, right because your listeners

131
00:06:48,399 --> 00:06:51,439
are expecting it. But if I took one thing away

132
00:06:51,439 --> 00:06:54,959
from Wee's, it was no do that, like, do something

133
00:06:55,079 --> 00:06:58,360
different every day, so people are they don't know what

134
00:06:58,399 --> 00:06:59,079
to expect.

135
00:06:59,199 --> 00:07:01,240
Speaker 5: And for that reason, I always thought that was a

136
00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:01,959
better approach.

137
00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,920
Speaker 4: And I thought that not only his ratings proved it,

138
00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:06,600
but when I was doing what I was doing, our

139
00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:10,439
ratings proved it. So I felt like, you know, that

140
00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,120
was an approach that most people weren't doing.

141
00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:12,800
Speaker 5: And the other thing.

142
00:07:12,879 --> 00:07:15,160
Speaker 4: Lastly, and I'm rambling a little bit, but you know,

143
00:07:15,399 --> 00:07:19,399
I remember some absolutely heated battles like you wouldn't be

144
00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,639
in them, but you'd walk by the offices of our

145
00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:26,319
program directors and they were just battles, like wars, like

146
00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,639
they were gonna be thrown down, fistfights happening on the regular.

147
00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, we's just getting bitched at and yelled at and why.

148
00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:34,680
Speaker 3: Did you do this?

149
00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:35,920
Speaker 5: Or I can't believe you did that, or.

150
00:07:35,879 --> 00:07:38,160
Speaker 4: Blah blah blah, you're gonna you know, our license is

151
00:07:38,199 --> 00:07:39,920
in jeopardy or blah blah. But you know, whatever the

152
00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,040
argument might have been on management side, de Sid was like,

153
00:07:43,519 --> 00:07:46,319
you know, yeah, this is what I do, you know,

154
00:07:46,439 --> 00:07:48,600
And and there were times that I thought for sure

155
00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,639
something bad was gonna happen. And ultimately management they knew,

156
00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:54,759
they knew what he was, they knew his talent, they

157
00:07:54,839 --> 00:07:58,360
knew he was unlike anything else, and they let it ride.

158
00:07:58,399 --> 00:08:00,199
Speaker 5: And good for them for doing that.

159
00:08:00,199 --> 00:08:03,879
Speaker 3: That was very smart early on because he was, you know,

160
00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,439
as Dave said, the uncommon and unconventional radio personality with

161
00:08:07,439 --> 00:08:10,319
the voice. Right, you had to have a voice when

162
00:08:10,319 --> 00:08:13,519
you were on radio. He didn't have that similar voice,

163
00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,439
but he had his own language and he brought his

164
00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,920
It was he was so unique that it cut through

165
00:08:18,959 --> 00:08:22,079
and it was different. And he had a warmth about

166
00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,560
him that I think people just connected to. And he

167
00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,279
was raw. I hear all the things you're saying, you

168
00:08:29,319 --> 00:08:32,480
know about him. I think I came from it from

169
00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,679
a slightly different perspective. Right. I had done all my

170
00:08:36,159 --> 00:08:40,279
my own radio shows and I was about to leave

171
00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:42,879
and they put a cease and desist on me and said,

172
00:08:42,919 --> 00:08:47,639
why don't you produce wheeze and do afternoons to try

173
00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:49,639
to meet the salary I was going to get had

174
00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:53,440
they not, you know, to go to another another state.

175
00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:58,200
And I didn't find it as hard to produce Wheeze

176
00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,120
because I had all that background. And I think one

177
00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,120
of the biggest problems was they were putting people in

178
00:09:05,159 --> 00:09:07,879
to produce a show who had no radio experience, and

179
00:09:07,919 --> 00:09:12,240
that's so fucking unfair. It just is, because you got

180
00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:16,600
a monumental thing. But at the same time, Bowl some

181
00:09:16,639 --> 00:09:20,120
of the funniest shit I had ever been part of

182
00:09:20,919 --> 00:09:24,000
just went down during that time. And I always thought

183
00:09:24,039 --> 00:09:27,000
like he was sort of I guess a mentor. I

184
00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,480
remember saying to his Stanley. He's like, hey, hang around

185
00:09:30,519 --> 00:09:33,720
the morning show, hang around Wiez. And I'd be like, oh, yeah,

186
00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:35,559
I want to pick his brain. He goes, you can't.

187
00:09:35,639 --> 00:09:38,240
You can't really pick his brain. You just got to

188
00:09:38,279 --> 00:09:40,679
watch what he does. And that was the thing. And

189
00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,519
then I always felt like in the beginning I was

190
00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:47,799
trying too hard when I look back, because I was

191
00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,720
Miranimal and that was not That was a nickname for

192
00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,679
another guy, Mark Moran at Fisher He called himself Miranimal.

193
00:09:55,799 --> 00:09:57,440
I liked it, so I took it to the radio.

194
00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:59,720
I mean it worked. It was a one name moniker,

195
00:09:59,759 --> 00:10:04,480
we bowl mar you know, okay, But I was doing

196
00:10:04,519 --> 00:10:07,919
more of a edgy kind of man cow thing. I remember,

197
00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,639
We's going Brah And it took me a while. And

198
00:10:11,759 --> 00:10:15,559
one thing I will say he taught me was because

199
00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,600
I always tried to hide this. And I don't know

200
00:10:17,639 --> 00:10:19,080
if you would agree with this or not, but I

201
00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:24,919
always tried to hide being smart and not that I am.

202
00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,159
I'm just saying that like intelligent radio, like sometimes on

203
00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:32,159
Wee'z's show, there were great conversations that, like really good

204
00:10:32,519 --> 00:10:36,360
deep conversations. I think a philosophy professor from the U

205
00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,080
of R used to write weeds and say I evoke

206
00:10:39,159 --> 00:10:42,519
you in my class because you think differently about these things.

207
00:10:42,519 --> 00:10:45,480
And I heard you say this, and it was that

208
00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,240
was when I was producing the show, and I remember thinking, yeah,

209
00:10:48,279 --> 00:10:52,919
it's being people like intelligent stuff. They want to feel smart.

210
00:10:53,039 --> 00:10:55,919
And I was more like, I want to be the rebel.

211
00:10:56,039 --> 00:10:58,360
I want to be this, you know. And I didn't.

212
00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,240
I didn't come from the background Weeze came from. We's

213
00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:06,360
was the rebel. We'z was the antithesis of that. I wasn't.

214
00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:10,720
I came from a college educated parents with master's degrees

215
00:11:10,759 --> 00:11:12,679
and doctorates, you know what I mean. That's where I

216
00:11:12,759 --> 00:11:15,559
came from. And I wanted to deny that and be

217
00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:19,159
this badass, you know, guy on the radio. And I

218
00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:23,799
remember the guy who is now Weeze's boss. And we'll

219
00:11:23,799 --> 00:11:26,039
get into this a little bit later. Bob Morgan coming

220
00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:31,120
to me and saying, yeah, saying to me, you could

221
00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,200
be a GM. Let me teach you how to be

222
00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,879
a general manager. And I'm like no, he goes, No,

223
00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,480
we're going to schedule thing. I'm going to show you

224
00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,639
how to do this. He goes, you don't want to

225
00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:43,679
go and die in afternoon? Somewhere and not do this,

226
00:11:43,879 --> 00:11:46,200
and I fucked ball. I wouldn't show up to the

227
00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:51,799
meetings because I wouldn't go. I did not want to

228
00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:53,559
do that. I did not want to be that guy

229
00:11:53,639 --> 00:11:56,360
I wanted to be because growing up, I didn't hear

230
00:11:56,440 --> 00:12:00,159
Weeze and Stern was blocked by an FM signal, so

231
00:12:00,159 --> 00:12:02,039
I couldn't hear Stern out of New York, but I

232
00:12:02,039 --> 00:12:05,120
could hear I Miss, and I loved I Miss's show,

233
00:12:05,159 --> 00:12:08,080
and I loved I'm Miss's show. For being smart. He

234
00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:09,919
would be the rebel, but hey would have you know,

235
00:12:10,159 --> 00:12:12,320
a news reporter on talking about the big thing of

236
00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,679
the day. I remember when he interviewed Bill Clinton when

237
00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,200
he was just a candidate. So those were like the

238
00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,519
influences for me. And Weeds was of a similar a

239
00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,960
similar thing. And I gotta tell you, man, I had

240
00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:29,000
some of the most fun stuff when I was part

241
00:12:29,039 --> 00:12:29,559
of that show.

242
00:12:30,759 --> 00:12:31,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean.

243
00:12:32,919 --> 00:12:35,960
Speaker 4: Just being in there and not so my cousin Bill,

244
00:12:36,039 --> 00:12:39,399
who still lives in Rochester and he is a huge

245
00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,240
weez fan, always has been. And it was sort of

246
00:12:42,279 --> 00:12:44,879
like a memorabilia collector, and he was one of those

247
00:12:44,879 --> 00:12:46,440
guys that would like show up at a place if

248
00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,120
a famous person was going to be there to get

249
00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,080
an autograph or a picture or whatever. Right, this is

250
00:12:50,399 --> 00:12:52,919
way back in the day before there were signings and

251
00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,519
all of that, right, So he knew what I did,

252
00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,159
and he knew Sam Kinnison was coming in, right, and

253
00:12:58,200 --> 00:12:59,679
he was like, can I come in and just take

254
00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:01,559
some picure? And I'm like, well, let me ask is

255
00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,519
I was still very young at the time in the

256
00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,200
business and in the organization.

257
00:13:05,399 --> 00:13:06,679
Speaker 5: They're like, yeah, no problem whatever.

258
00:13:07,159 --> 00:13:09,559
Speaker 4: And he was a really good photographer back in the day,

259
00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,039
and that's what he kind of did part time as

260
00:13:11,039 --> 00:13:11,480
a hobby.

261
00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,919
Speaker 5: So he comes in and just the way that that.

262
00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,840
Speaker 4: I mean, here's Wee's in little Rochester, New York, right,

263
00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,799
not not a major metropolis, right, mid fifties, size market,

264
00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,039
definitely medium market.

265
00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:30,159
Speaker 5: And yet he was never intimidated by anybody that.

266
00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,399
Speaker 4: Was famous that came into the studio A and B

267
00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:34,919
people that were famous.

268
00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:36,679
Speaker 5: Why did it come to the studio?

269
00:13:36,759 --> 00:13:37,919
Speaker 3: They did because they.

270
00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,559
Speaker 4: Heard about him from other people. I mean, Wee's was

271
00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,120
not just Rochester. Even back in the late eighties and

272
00:13:43,159 --> 00:13:46,759
early nineties, his name was getting out there in the

273
00:13:46,879 --> 00:13:48,240
inner in the entertainment industry.

274
00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,519
Speaker 3: He got an offer to go to Miami and do mornings, yeah,

275
00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:52,200
and he wouldn't go.

276
00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,039
Speaker 4: So, you know, I want to go back to one

277
00:13:56,039 --> 00:13:57,480
thing you said earlier, and I have to get this

278
00:13:57,519 --> 00:14:01,240
in before before I leave. But you mentioned him just

279
00:14:01,279 --> 00:14:05,120
being just a downright good person. I will never forget this.

280
00:14:05,159 --> 00:14:08,360
I tell a story all the time. So I felt

281
00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,399
like at the time, I had been interning for like

282
00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:11,960
a year, right, and I got to know everybody in

283
00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,720
the salesperson. You know me, I'm kind of that happy,

284
00:14:14,759 --> 00:14:17,279
go lucky kid that wants to be part of everything

285
00:14:17,279 --> 00:14:17,759
and whatever.

286
00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,240
Speaker 5: So I was on the station softball team, you know

287
00:14:20,279 --> 00:14:21,159
I was. I was.

288
00:14:21,799 --> 00:14:26,639
Speaker 4: I was the soldier before the soldier, right, So I

289
00:14:26,799 --> 00:14:28,879
was do everything kid because I wanted to get there.

290
00:14:28,919 --> 00:14:30,720
Speaker 5: I wanted to be there. I wanted to do it right.

291
00:14:31,279 --> 00:14:33,279
And I'll never forget I invited.

292
00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,240
Speaker 4: I was graduating from Fisher in eighty nine and I

293
00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,039
invited the whole station to my graduation party at my house.

294
00:14:38,639 --> 00:14:40,360
One person showed up and you know who that was.

295
00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,399
Speaker 5: It was Wee'z. I'll never forget that.

296
00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:46,080
Speaker 4: And We's was arguably at the height or close to

297
00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:47,159
it of his career.

298
00:14:47,519 --> 00:14:49,919
Speaker 5: I will never ever forget that.

299
00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:53,600
Speaker 4: That was so heartwarming and special for someone that I

300
00:14:53,639 --> 00:14:57,320
looked up to and someone who was so popular and had,

301
00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,639
you know, people were pulling him from every direction.

302
00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:01,600
Speaker 5: To have to take an hour.

303
00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,759
Speaker 4: And stop by my house and celebrate my graduation from college.

304
00:15:04,799 --> 00:15:06,919
Speaker 5: Really was. I'll never forget that.

305
00:15:07,639 --> 00:15:10,919
Speaker 4: You mentioned the philanthropy and al of charity, the lyric

306
00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,639
work he did, I mean it go and some of it,

307
00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,679
like for a lot of celebrities, is not even spoken of.

308
00:15:16,879 --> 00:15:18,120
Speaker 5: Right, you don't even know he does it.

309
00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,799
Speaker 4: But he he had and still does has an incredibly

310
00:15:22,919 --> 00:15:28,360
kind heart. Always did you know, facade aside, you know,

311
00:15:28,559 --> 00:15:31,639
believe him for what you think he is deep down

312
00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:35,440
he is an absolute sweetheart of a person. And I

313
00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:36,840
am really happy I got to know him.

314
00:15:36,919 --> 00:15:41,120
Speaker 3: Yeah. I remember we became friendly with Lisa Lampinelli because

315
00:15:41,159 --> 00:15:43,600
we said to me when I started producing his show,

316
00:15:44,279 --> 00:15:46,679
I said, what is something he always wanted to do

317
00:15:47,159 --> 00:15:48,639
that you never did? And he goes, I want to

318
00:15:48,639 --> 00:15:51,960
broadcast from the Montreal Comedy Fest, which is no longer

319
00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,559
in existence. And I said, Okay, we're going to get

320
00:15:54,559 --> 00:15:56,759
it done, and he goes, you pulled that off. Well,

321
00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:58,919
we went like three or fourty years in a row,

322
00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:03,120
and we met Lisa Lampinelli there and became friends with her.

323
00:16:03,159 --> 00:16:05,360
And I remember her saying to me, she just connected

324
00:16:05,399 --> 00:16:09,000
with him. She's just like he's got such a warm heart.

325
00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,480
And you could and that was the thing, like it

326
00:16:11,519 --> 00:16:15,799
was a gruff exterior, right, and quickly judged he had,

327
00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:20,159
you know, longer hair, biker typed looks that all the

328
00:16:20,279 --> 00:16:23,080
tax I mean that, like I've never I always loved

329
00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:24,679
the story and I wasn't part of the show. When

330
00:16:24,759 --> 00:16:29,120
he took the boat to Ontario, Canada, and they were

331
00:16:29,159 --> 00:16:31,240
all up there, but there were so many pillows and

332
00:16:31,279 --> 00:16:35,559
shit thrown on there that he decided he would throw

333
00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:39,159
them in the car. He was gonna run home, drive home,

334
00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,279
and then go back to the boat somehow, I guess

335
00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,240
go back. He gets to the border and they pull

336
00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,840
him over and they're cutting open the pillows because they

337
00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,919
think they're cocaine inside, you know what I mean.

338
00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:53,480
Speaker 2: I mean that was always like it was.

339
00:16:53,519 --> 00:16:55,879
Speaker 3: That, and he went through a lot of I think

340
00:16:55,919 --> 00:17:00,879
he could identify with people very very well because he

341
00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:06,559
was so unconventional that and he looked different that anybody

342
00:17:06,559 --> 00:17:10,880
who was ever judged or pushed aside or whatever. He

343
00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,039
could relate to that. He really goes from his own experience.

344
00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:19,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'll never forget this always because I

345
00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,200
was a history of minor in college. It doesn't mean anything, really,

346
00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:26,720
but I love history, and I'll never forget the conversations

347
00:17:26,759 --> 00:17:30,240
about about the tapes in Vietnam. Things that I never

348
00:17:30,279 --> 00:17:32,759
knew about that, right, that they actually had these mini

349
00:17:32,799 --> 00:17:33,640
tape decks with them.

350
00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:34,440
Speaker 5: The soldiers did.

351
00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:39,480
Speaker 4: It's they could send audio back home. And he actually

352
00:17:39,559 --> 00:17:41,920
had some of them and we actually listened to some

353
00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,359
of them, unreal to real, and it was unbelievable because

354
00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:49,480
he it was him, Yeah, but a fifteen year younger

355
00:17:49,599 --> 00:17:53,880
version or twenty year younger version. It was crazy. And

356
00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,279
some of the stories that came it's just remarkable. So

357
00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:58,880
he was able to take his and think about it.

358
00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,160
His persona was street, right, he was a biker.

359
00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,160
Speaker 3: It's the time, like he right the street, That's what

360
00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:04,480
I mean.

361
00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,559
Speaker 5: And unlike the two of us who were you know, no,

362
00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:09,920
mostly I would.

363
00:18:10,079 --> 00:18:12,400
Speaker 3: I couldn't be more white bread. I mean, that's just

364
00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,000
the way it is. If you're gonna say it. I

365
00:18:14,519 --> 00:18:17,279
have come to accept that and embrace it, you know,

366
00:18:17,559 --> 00:18:20,440
and put my own spin on my own life, but

367
00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:21,400
that that is true.

368
00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, so he was able to in a great way

369
00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:29,160
sort of direct all of that experience into what he

370
00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:29,720
did on air.

371
00:18:29,759 --> 00:18:31,559
Speaker 5: And I think people appreciate it and the other thing.

372
00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:33,680
Speaker 4: And I know this has been talked to Ed Nauseaum about,

373
00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,039
but I think it's really really important for people to

374
00:18:36,079 --> 00:18:39,400
realize what's that ninety nine was an innern I don't

375
00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,839
care what they say about it today. Yeah, but when

376
00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,119
it happened, I mean that was a massive international festival

377
00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:49,440
with a quarter million people there may maybe more.

378
00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:51,920
Speaker 5: I was there, including you were.

379
00:18:51,799 --> 00:18:52,599
Speaker 3: At ninety nine.

380
00:18:53,079 --> 00:18:53,960
Speaker 5: I was at ninety nine.

381
00:18:54,039 --> 00:18:57,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was too, because he did ninety four at

382
00:18:58,079 --> 00:18:58,640
ninety nine.

383
00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:03,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, as the end, I'll never forget him doing, you know,

384
00:19:03,279 --> 00:19:04,119
stage announcements.

385
00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,920
Speaker 5: And like just the fact that Weez was asked, yes.

386
00:19:06,799 --> 00:19:10,720
Speaker 3: Of all the in the world, Yes.

387
00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,960
Speaker 5: Right, it's Weez do stage announcements. That's remarkable.

388
00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,920
Speaker 3: It is remarkable. I agree with you so much. I

389
00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,440
agree that guy. I agree. So that is you know

390
00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,960
what I sort of forgot about that, but that is

391
00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:28,680
absolutely unbelievable. You are so right and that and it

392
00:19:29,319 --> 00:19:33,240
you know, I will get into this later after you

393
00:19:33,599 --> 00:19:34,559
what do you gotta do today.

394
00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:36,680
Speaker 4: I got to jump off. I got a bunch of

395
00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,640
stuff I have. My mom just moved back to Western

396
00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,480
New York. She lived in Maryland for about fifteen years,

397
00:19:41,519 --> 00:19:44,400
so she's now living in Buffalo. So I have to

398
00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,440
go take it out to lunch before the Bills game.

399
00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,319
Speaker 3: Very nice. I have to ask you because I and

400
00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,519
I will let you go. Today is the first Bills game.

401
00:19:52,559 --> 00:19:55,480
By the time people hear this podcast, the game will

402
00:19:55,519 --> 00:19:58,519
be over. It's a night game. It's a big game.

403
00:20:00,079 --> 00:20:01,359
What are you how are you feeling about it?

404
00:20:03,759 --> 00:20:06,240
Speaker 4: Okay, So, because we're recording this, you can edit this

405
00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,960
and actually put my correct prediction.

406
00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:10,240
Speaker 2: In after that, No, I will not.

407
00:20:10,559 --> 00:20:14,079
Speaker 3: I will not do that. You want to do too?

408
00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:20,720
Like people will cut too and then run whichever one? Yeah, yeah,

409
00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:21,119
I do.

410
00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,119
Speaker 5: I know now I'll tell you.

411
00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:23,240
Speaker 3: So.

412
00:20:23,279 --> 00:20:24,480
Speaker 5: I do a TV show in Buffalo.

413
00:20:24,559 --> 00:20:26,400
Speaker 4: It's done if you if you see this and you

414
00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,720
live in Buffalo, It's on WBBC, It's channel five on cable.

415
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,799
It's called The Shack and First Down Buffalo Pregame Show,

416
00:20:32,839 --> 00:20:33,640
and we do it every week.

417
00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,440
Speaker 5: It's on Saturdays and Sunday. Saturdays at five pm, Sundays

418
00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:37,960
at noon so you can check it out. It's a

419
00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:38,440
lot of fun.

420
00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,119
Speaker 4: Anyway, So on the show this weekend, I'm not I'm

421
00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:45,039
not going back on this because I feel there's a

422
00:20:45,039 --> 00:20:46,880
couple of different factors in play. But I'm taking the

423
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,240
Ravens today. That's okay. The Ravens kicked the Bills ass

424
00:20:50,319 --> 00:20:51,759
last year, and we know what the Bills did in

425
00:20:51,799 --> 00:20:54,319
the playoffs, right, so I'm okay with that. I don't

426
00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:55,920
love the fact that it's a home opener in the

427
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,279
last season of High Mark and all of that. That's fine,

428
00:20:58,319 --> 00:21:00,960
but I just think they they are so deep in

429
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,079
their back seven that if the Bills don't have a

430
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,319
run game and what is there to say that they will,

431
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:07,359
I think they're in trouble. And then of course that

432
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,119
the Bill's defensive side of the ball, you know, their

433
00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,240
secondary tray out is really tough. I mean, what are

434
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,319
they gonna do there? Who's gonna play safety? Is it

435
00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,400
gonna be Ingram at corner? Is gonna be Are they

436
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,559
gonna call up Dans? I have no idea. I think

437
00:21:19,599 --> 00:21:22,359
that's a problem. Remember Jay Flowers didn't play in that

438
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,839
playoff game last year. He is incredibly dynamic. Rashad Bateman

439
00:21:25,839 --> 00:21:27,920
had a big game in that game last year, and

440
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,240
he is one of the more underrated guys. In fact,

441
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:31,920
if you play fantasy football, you probably look at the

442
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:32,599
players available.

443
00:21:32,599 --> 00:21:33,319
Speaker 5: He's one of them.

444
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,039
Speaker 4: But he has this tendency to have big games in

445
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,519
big moments, and I get it. I likely's not playing

446
00:21:39,519 --> 00:21:41,799
for the Ravens, and that's a big deal for them

447
00:21:41,799 --> 00:21:44,799
because he is a massive contributor. Remember it was in

448
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,559
Week one last year against the Chiefs that the Ravens

449
00:21:47,599 --> 00:21:49,119
lost literally by a toenail.

450
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 5: His likely in the zone.

451
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,440
Speaker 4: He won't play, So that means Mark Andrews is going

452
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,079
to have to go back to the Mark anders where

453
00:21:56,079 --> 00:21:56,720
you're used to see in.

454
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,799
Speaker 5: A couple of years ago. But they still love Lamar

455
00:21:58,839 --> 00:21:59,400
and they still.

456
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,799
Speaker 4: Love Derrick Henry and Josh historically has not played well

457
00:22:02,839 --> 00:22:04,319
against the Ravens regular season.

458
00:22:04,559 --> 00:22:05,839
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna take the Ravens.

459
00:22:05,839 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 3: I do.

460
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,119
Speaker 4: And by the way, I don't know if anybody knows this,

461
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,240
but they're favored coming into this game.

462
00:22:10,319 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 3: Yeah they are now. I think the line changed late

463
00:22:13,279 --> 00:22:18,640
last week, Yeah right, I think somewhere around Thursday Friday. Yeah,

464
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,720
a lot of people are saying that I'm a Homer.

465
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,079
So I'm still picking them twenty seven to twenty four,

466
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,079
I think, is how I had the score. But something

467
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:26,880
like that, I don't know.

468
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,759
Speaker 2: I'm a ball you're with bull?

469
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know. I think most people are, and

470
00:22:31,839 --> 00:22:35,559
I think really deep fans are, Like we can accept that.

471
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,599
We can accept this because they've been planning. The Baltimore

472
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:44,079
Ravens since the schedule came out, have been game planning

473
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:45,119
for this day.

474
00:22:45,039 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 2: Like this is the this is the Ravens revenge.

475
00:22:47,279 --> 00:22:48,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the Ravens revenge.

476
00:22:48,799 --> 00:22:51,759
Speaker 4: Well, and here's one last thing then I gotta go. Yeah,

477
00:22:51,799 --> 00:22:55,200
and I'm taking up your tongue too, jeez. The last

478
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,799
game the Ravens played was where they're playing tonight, right, yes, so,

479
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,480
and that that says something to me.

480
00:23:01,559 --> 00:23:02,559
Speaker 5: I'm not a big guy.

481
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 4: I don't really believe in the carry over year to year.

482
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,680
I just think there's too much time in between games.

483
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,160
But I do believe that when they step back out

484
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:11,279
in the field, they're gonna remember that.

485
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 5: And the other thing too, is this is for the Ravens.

486
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,279
Speaker 4: You got to think of from their perspective, for the Ravens,

487
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,839
this is the Bills Kansas City game.

488
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,160
Speaker 5: Right, the Ravens need this.

489
00:23:22,039 --> 00:23:24,279
Speaker 4: Game if they have any chance of getting the one

490
00:23:24,319 --> 00:23:26,559
seed in the end, right, yeah, because there's a good

491
00:23:26,599 --> 00:23:28,079
chance that they come down and maybe they have the

492
00:23:28,079 --> 00:23:30,640
same record, but if they have beaten the Bills, that's

493
00:23:30,799 --> 00:23:33,480
massive for them. So I think the Ravens go into

494
00:23:33,519 --> 00:23:36,359
this game thinking this is the Bills Kansas City game.

495
00:23:36,559 --> 00:23:38,480
We got to win this game so we can have

496
00:23:38,519 --> 00:23:40,400
a game up on the Bills going forward. So that's

497
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,319
why I'm taking the Ravens, and I think it'll be

498
00:23:42,759 --> 00:23:43,720
high scoring as well.

499
00:23:44,039 --> 00:23:47,759
Speaker 5: Take the over probably, you know, I love the.

500
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:49,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what is do you know the

501
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,359
over bawl. I don't know what this is.

502
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,640
Speaker 4: I'm assuming the over is in the fifties pot I

503
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,680
I fish or something. I haven't checked it this morning,

504
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,720
but you know there's gonna be a lot of points scored.

505
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 5: I would, I would, I would bet. So, thank you

506
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:03,920
man for having me on. I appreciate you.

507
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,079
Speaker 3: Why I appreciate you, and uh, I think your insight

508
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,799
to sports stuff is uh. I'm gonna say unmatched and

509
00:24:10,799 --> 00:24:13,160
I'll piss some people off, but I do. I was

510
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,920
really impressed. You put it very I always say this bull,

511
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,519
we need to be more like this device. Right, it's intuitive.

512
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,480
The iPhone is intuitive and they've dropped them in the

513
00:24:24,519 --> 00:24:27,799
middle of a tribe in Africa. The hardest thing to

514
00:24:27,839 --> 00:24:30,960
do is turn it on. After that, it's sort of intuitive.

515
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:32,359
I think you make sports that way, and I think

516
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,680
that's a very agree I think seriously, and I think

517
00:24:34,759 --> 00:24:36,599
Danny does a nice job. But Dan will get very

518
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:40,400
deep on things personal. Yes, he gets very personal. Bull

519
00:24:40,519 --> 00:24:42,960
and you know, you know we're talking about big, big time.

520
00:24:43,319 --> 00:24:43,880
Bull's big.

521
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 2: You know, Bull is one of the voices of the Bills.

522
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,279
Has been fast for years, so you know, I mean

523
00:24:48,319 --> 00:24:49,000
that's big time.

524
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 3: Yep, I think so too. Ball, Go enjoy lunch with

525
00:24:52,039 --> 00:24:54,039
your mom. And uh, I am going to say this,

526
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,039
go Buffalo, let's go Bills.

527
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 5: Hey, look I want them to win.

528
00:24:57,759 --> 00:25:00,839
Speaker 3: I know you do. Yeah, all right, thank you, Thanks

529
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,359
for your time, man, Everyone appreciate it. There he goes, Uh,

530
00:25:04,599 --> 00:25:07,640
Mark is here, and well, why don't we take a moment,

531
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,759
and then I want to hear about your stuff with weez. Uh.

532
00:25:11,799 --> 00:25:13,480
We'll see if we can get somebody else on. And

533
00:25:13,519 --> 00:25:18,960
then I am going to go into what I believe happened.

534
00:25:19,079 --> 00:25:21,440
And I think it's going to be the most accurate

535
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,319
thing that you're gonna hear. I think there's gonna be

536
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,640
lots of opinions out there, and I don't know.

537
00:25:25,759 --> 00:25:30,279
Speaker 2: Look, well, kind of you know, after you saw what

538
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,440
was going on when you left two years ago, you

539
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,000
know what I mean, that was the start of everything changing.

540
00:25:36,039 --> 00:25:39,079
I thought when they got rid of YouTube, you're when

541
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,839
you know, when all of a sudden, when when I

542
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,000
was gone. Yeah, well when you were gone, because you

543
00:25:44,039 --> 00:25:46,240
were they were priming up for you to be the

544
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,240
feast of the show. And you're not there anymore. And

545
00:25:49,319 --> 00:25:50,880
so do you want me to talk about all that?

546
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:51,920
I do?

547
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,319
Speaker 3: You want me to talk about all that? You can?

548
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:53,880
Speaker 2: Now? Right?

549
00:25:55,839 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 3: I can probably.

550
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 2: Who's there? I mean, let's put this way. This is the

551
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,319
way I'm thinking about it. I'm never going back ever

552
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,200
to that, to radio TV ever again. Okay, So I'm

553
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,799
gonna say whatever you know, and I'm gonna say it

554
00:26:10,839 --> 00:26:13,079
whatever I know that you you know, there's always that

555
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:14,680
shot that someone's gonna call you one Dane.

556
00:26:14,799 --> 00:26:17,599
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't have that. I will say to you.

557
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,680
I don't think that way because I want to. I don't. Look,

558
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,640
I'm going back for a master's degree I thought you

559
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:25,440
did I tell you that.

560
00:26:25,759 --> 00:26:27,799
Speaker 2: I think you know you didn't, but I heard it,

561
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,799
you said in a text. Yeah, but I thought, because

562
00:26:31,839 --> 00:26:34,640
I didn't, I heard Reeson's we said an announcement. So

563
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,519
I'm in school. So here's my thinking. He's gonna retire,

564
00:26:38,519 --> 00:26:42,519
Deanna's gone, everybody's gone. I'm like, they're bringing Bill back,

565
00:26:42,519 --> 00:26:44,119
and they're gonna put him in until you they're gonna

566
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,319
be the morning show. I thought for sure that was

567
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,039
what was gonna happen. No, no, not even close. No,

568
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:49,680
not even close.

569
00:26:49,759 --> 00:26:53,279
Speaker 3: I knew. I knew what was happening. Yeah, and and

570
00:26:53,559 --> 00:26:57,119
I'll explain, Uh, we'll do. I want to share some

571
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,319
of my my stories with Wie's and I I think

572
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,519
you probably have some stories, maybe if some funny moments,

573
00:27:03,559 --> 00:27:05,720
and maybe you do one. I do one, You do one,

574
00:27:05,759 --> 00:27:08,960
I do one, and we'll get to that right after this. Hey,

575
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,720
if you're looking for a place that's more than just

576
00:27:10,759 --> 00:27:13,279
a market, it's a game changer. You've got to check

577
00:27:13,319 --> 00:27:15,480
out Palmer's Direct to your Market right on nine hundred

578
00:27:15,519 --> 00:27:18,640
Jefferson Road and Henrietta, and of course online at Palmersdirect

579
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,079
to You dot com. And here's what I love you

580
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,960
can hop on their website not only see the weekly specials,

581
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,440
but under the learn tab they've got tons of recipes,

582
00:27:27,519 --> 00:27:30,440
tips and how to guides. And with football season, here

583
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:35,680
their game day reciping roundup, loaded with fun ideas, chicken wings, tips,

584
00:27:35,839 --> 00:27:38,920
crowd pleasers. You're gonna be the MVP of any watch

585
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,960
party by going to Palmersdirect to you dot com and

586
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,799
clicking on the learn tab. And the experts at Palmer's

587
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,799
they're incredible. I actually learned how to air fry bacon

588
00:27:47,839 --> 00:27:50,079
from them. Pro tip you lay a piece of bread

589
00:27:50,079 --> 00:27:52,640
at the bottom to soak up the grease. Brilliant, right,

590
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,200
it's a Palmer's tip. They've also got guides for busy

591
00:27:56,279 --> 00:27:58,880
back to school nights and how to properly freeze and

592
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,720
thought beef for easy meal preps so dinner doesn't feel

593
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,960
like we'll scramble. And it's not just recipes. The market

594
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:09,359
itself is unbelievable, Certified Angus Beef, Burger's Plump Chicken, fresh fish,

595
00:28:09,599 --> 00:28:13,319
and one of my personal favorites, that Jamaican me Crazy coffee.

596
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,039
Oh it's so good. So whether you shop in person

597
00:28:16,039 --> 00:28:18,759
at nine hundred Jefferson Road or online at Palmersdirect to

598
00:28:18,759 --> 00:28:21,079
You dot com. You're not just buying groceries. You're getting

599
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,279
expert advice, fresh food and a little inspiration to make

600
00:28:24,319 --> 00:28:27,559
meal time better. That's Palmer's Direct to You market. Connorson

601
00:28:27,599 --> 00:28:32,799
Ferris handles workers comp social security, disability and personal injury cases. Listen,

602
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,079
I get it. Workers comp claims can be a real pain,

603
00:28:36,559 --> 00:28:39,799
but Connors and Ferris are here to fight for you

604
00:28:40,279 --> 00:28:44,079
and get you the compensation you deserve. Whether you threw

605
00:28:44,119 --> 00:28:46,079
out your back on the job, slipped when you should

606
00:28:46,119 --> 00:28:49,799
a grip, or your boss thinks overtime means free labor. Spoiler,

607
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,519
it doesn't. They've got your back at connorson Ferris, with

608
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,400
offices in New York City, Syracuse, Rochester, and Buffalo. They're

609
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,720
the go to team for getting the compensation you deserve.

610
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:06,200
No gimmicks, no nonsense, just real results. Call Connors and

611
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,880
Ferris two six two comp. That's two six to two

612
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:19,799
comp for Connors and Ferris. I had to do it right, Yeah,

613
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,400
I gotta do a little weeze music.

614
00:29:21,559 --> 00:29:22,279
Speaker 2: Wheeze music.

615
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:27,839
Speaker 3: We really brought little feet, I would say, I'm gonna.

616
00:29:27,599 --> 00:29:31,759
Speaker 2: Say to prominence, I think so. Yeah, I don't get it.

617
00:29:32,839 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 3: See I always loved this song, and I always associated

618
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:40,400
with him, But you know.

619
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 2: I didn't.

620
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,799
Speaker 3: You know, A bull said it was hard to produce Wheeze,

621
00:29:53,839 --> 00:29:56,680
and I think back in those times, was it probably was.

622
00:29:57,119 --> 00:30:00,759
I didn't, but I had, And I said, like, I

623
00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:04,119
hate saying this because you sound like you're in a dick.

624
00:30:04,559 --> 00:30:07,279
But I always felt like I had an advantage, you know,

625
00:30:07,359 --> 00:30:09,240
I didn't. I wasn't an intern at CMF.

626
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 2: I was.

627
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 3: I was hired there. I had been on the radio.

628
00:30:13,079 --> 00:30:15,039
I had sat out a year of college and did

629
00:30:15,039 --> 00:30:17,920
midnight to six, maybe the best training ground ever. And

630
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:23,079
I realized that I liked talk because I got bored

631
00:30:23,119 --> 00:30:25,039
playing music. So I would just open the phones in

632
00:30:25,079 --> 00:30:27,079
the middle of the night and talk to people. They

633
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,680
call them pay phones at the corner of Maine and Cherry,

634
00:30:29,839 --> 00:30:32,480
which is the worst part of Poughkeepsie. I went down

635
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,880
there during the day and wrote down all the phone numbers,

636
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,599
and I was so excited. I thought this would be

637
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,039
the greatest thing, like and I just it was just fun.

638
00:30:41,079 --> 00:30:43,240
It was a playground for me. I didn't even care

639
00:30:43,279 --> 00:30:45,839
about money. I think I don't even know what I

640
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,240
made when I worked at WPDH and Poughkeepsie. I couldn't

641
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,519
tell you. And when I started full time at CMF,

642
00:30:52,799 --> 00:30:54,680
and they said to me because I was going to

643
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,759
go to Syracuse to a radio station and they were

644
00:30:56,759 --> 00:31:00,000
going to hire me, and the stan Main's like, no, no,

645
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,640
I'll honey, you stay here, become the promotions director and

646
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,640
be my filling guy. Like anybody's off. You feeling for

647
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,799
Dave k and you're feeling for Bowl. You do whatever.

648
00:31:09,119 --> 00:31:13,160
And then eventually they put me in afternoons and I

649
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,319
was making fifteen grand a year. Well here was that

650
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,640
nineteen ninety Yeah, the fall of nineteen ninety four.

651
00:31:21,599 --> 00:31:25,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, ninety ninety nine, when I was marketing stretcher picks, why,

652
00:31:25,799 --> 00:31:27,279
I was eighteen thousand.

653
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:32,839
Speaker 3: Okay, okay. And those were thankless jobs, man, I mean

654
00:31:33,039 --> 00:31:39,039
just absolutely thankless jobs. But all that aside, I will

655
00:31:39,079 --> 00:31:42,119
say like I did come in though, with an advantage

656
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,519
because I had already done. I had done afternoons, I

657
00:31:44,559 --> 00:31:48,039
had done Basically they gave me from six to nine

658
00:31:48,079 --> 00:31:50,680
pm to do whatever I wanted on the radio. So

659
00:31:50,799 --> 00:31:53,920
I played games and I did shit and phone calls.

660
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,240
I had strippers in. I just did whatever I wanted.

661
00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,119
So then to be producing and Wheeze and I. I

662
00:32:01,279 --> 00:32:03,480
always felt like when I worked with him, I really

663
00:32:03,559 --> 00:32:07,519
did not We didn't share a brain, but we thought

664
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,720
very similarly. Yeah, you know what I mean, we approached

665
00:32:10,759 --> 00:32:14,319
stuff similarly. Uh and maybe that was just sort of

666
00:32:14,319 --> 00:32:17,200
the the I don't know, I don't know what that was,

667
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,640
but we we did. And then there were times where

668
00:32:20,119 --> 00:32:21,839
I could clean it up. But We's had it in

669
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:26,359
his contract that if Stan Maine ever left the radio station,

670
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:33,279
he would become the UH operations manager. Mark he became

671
00:32:33,359 --> 00:32:35,680
the operations manager. And I used to have to go

672
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,319
to the meetings because it was Wee's and there and

673
00:32:38,359 --> 00:32:41,759
they go the GM at the time, who has passed away,

674
00:32:42,559 --> 00:32:46,279
Al Casaza Al came to me and said, I need

675
00:32:46,319 --> 00:32:51,400
you to come into these meetings and you know, we'll

676
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,079
represent the show a little bit more because we would

677
00:32:54,079 --> 00:32:56,599
come in right. Let me tell you about the mother

678
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:02,359
fuck you know all that stuff and UH. Later this week,

679
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,920
I'm gonna have BJ shay on. But I want to

680
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,759
do BJ more from a radio perspective as a whole,

681
00:33:08,799 --> 00:33:13,240
because BJ certainly has UH more radio stations and high

682
00:33:13,319 --> 00:33:16,519
profile and bigger cities you know around him. But give

683
00:33:16,559 --> 00:33:20,839
me some stories from your day, because I do remember.

684
00:33:21,359 --> 00:33:25,200
I remember that time when you were there and it

685
00:33:25,319 --> 00:33:28,440
was on Winton Road. You guys were in the phone

686
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,960
screening room a lot, and I put on so much weight,

687
00:33:33,279 --> 00:33:36,160
like after college, because I would go in every day

688
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,279
and eat and eat.

689
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 2: I would Dido's bagels.

690
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,559
Speaker 3: It was every day was bagels and cream cheese lunches,

691
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,599
and I fuck, I just ate and ate because you were,

692
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:51,319
you know, and I ate. And I remember going home

693
00:33:51,599 --> 00:33:56,599
and somebody saying to me in a very polite way,

694
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:00,359
you know, hey, you're looking roundther prosperous I think was

695
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,880
the term, you know, looking prosperous, which means fat in

696
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:04,200
a way.

697
00:34:04,319 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 2: Just right say fuck you. You know, but you had

698
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:08,400
I mean you.

699
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,079
Speaker 3: Were there for some of the core.

700
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,159
Speaker 2: Hey I was there the heyday, I believe. Yeah, I

701
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,639
was there. Yeah, I was there during Howard Stern. Howard

702
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,159
was there during the Howard Stern era.

703
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:20,199
Speaker 3: Yes, So.

704
00:34:22,079 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 2: Every day was different every day and you couldn't walk

705
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,760
in there, and you forget to mention. And this is

706
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,760
something to be proud of, especially you being a producer.

707
00:34:29,039 --> 00:34:29,559
There were no.

708
00:34:29,519 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 3: Writers, No, there were no writers.

709
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,639
Speaker 2: All these shows that you listened to, and that includes

710
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,960
Rover and stuff have three to six writers. Stern has

711
00:34:38,039 --> 00:34:40,719
six has six writers, you know what I mean?

712
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 3: He does. This is all true, by the way, and

713
00:34:43,519 --> 00:34:45,840
Stern's been much more open about that that if you listen,

714
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,119
and he'll mention, oh so and so she's a writer

715
00:34:49,199 --> 00:34:49,559
for the show.

716
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 2: Right.

717
00:34:50,119 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 3: And it's funny because you're absolutely right. There were no writers.

718
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,159
It was just organic stuff. And I don't know if

719
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:02,199
Rover has them. I know, like I know there are

720
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:09,599
sixteen people behind the scenes for the Seacrest show. Holy shit, yeah,

721
00:35:09,639 --> 00:35:11,480
because there's so many people that need to chop it

722
00:35:11,559 --> 00:35:13,880
up because they run into middays in some markets they

723
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,320
do this so they repackage it all. But he has

724
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:22,280
sixteen people, and I think two of them are writers. Wow, Yeah,

725
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,360
that's crazy. And he makes seventy million.

726
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 2: Do make seventy million? You know? And he you know,

727
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,239
and and then he has to do Wheel of Fortune

728
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,320
and American Idol. Yeah, they freaking guy must have so

729
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:34,159
much fucking money.

730
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 3: He does. But uh, I but you're right that there

731
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,519
was no writers. It was it was you.

732
00:35:39,519 --> 00:35:42,519
Speaker 2: Would walk in and he'd have we'd have an agenda farm.

733
00:35:42,559 --> 00:35:44,880
There'd be an agenda farm cut out stuff from the newspaper,

734
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,159
Cindy Wood and stuff like that.

735
00:35:46,639 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 3: He wouldn't use.

736
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,159
Speaker 2: He would start off in the morning when you start out,

737
00:35:49,199 --> 00:35:51,199
he would start off for eating stuff like that. But

738
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,880
then once the show kicked in, he would it would

739
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,000
just be what was going on, who was who called,

740
00:35:58,079 --> 00:36:00,599
or what the guests were and stuff like that. Some

741
00:36:00,639 --> 00:36:03,840
of the worst guests were the best guests. What do

742
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,719
you mean, Well, I'll never forget when Scott Van Duson

743
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:07,440
produced a show.

744
00:36:08,679 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 3: Okay, but that was down when he was downtown.

745
00:36:12,639 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 2: No, that was still when okay, yeah, because they because

746
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,519
they wanted me to produce the show. Yeah, And I

747
00:36:21,559 --> 00:36:24,519
said no, Okay, I said no, And he just like, bro,

748
00:36:24,559 --> 00:36:25,960
why don't you want to produce the show? I go,

749
00:36:26,119 --> 00:36:28,039
I like to, I go, you will kill I go,

750
00:36:28,199 --> 00:36:29,360
you will beat me up?

751
00:36:29,559 --> 00:36:30,039
Speaker 3: You beat me up?

752
00:36:30,079 --> 00:36:32,559
Speaker 2: Now I was an assistant producer. No, no, no, no,

753
00:36:32,559 --> 00:36:34,840
he goes, you got this. You got to say absolutely not.

754
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,679
And I knew that I was eventually going, you know,

755
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:43,079
I was going to go into sales or our marketing job.

756
00:36:43,119 --> 00:36:45,559
I knew I wasn't going to stay in the radio

757
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:51,719
in the radio end of it. So Scott Scott gets

758
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:56,519
a guy on did some I forgot that he was

759
00:36:56,559 --> 00:37:00,400
the first person to use a portable microphone own or

760
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:05,480
something like that.

761
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:14,519
Speaker 3: That's the Yeah, not only did we kill all of

762
00:37:14,519 --> 00:37:16,000
course he killed.

763
00:37:15,639 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 2: The guy who was kill was odd. Yeah, and it

764
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,400
turned into one of the best, one of the best.

765
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 3: Because it's funny, right. I would say one of the

766
00:37:25,519 --> 00:37:29,360
great things about brother Weez was uh. He was a

767
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,320
great reactor and.

768
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,280
Speaker 2: Sometimes at his own fault though he would ruin He

769
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,239
hated bits. He would ruin a lot of bits that

770
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:39,039
we tried to deal.

771
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:44,679
Speaker 3: Yes, but this is true. So brother weez Uh, I'll

772
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,920
just say this the science, right, there are people. There

773
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,960
are consultants, and there are people who come in and

774
00:37:51,039 --> 00:37:56,360
I think they can at times because some of them,

775
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,320
not all of them, but I always go consultants make

776
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,159
me WinCE a little bit. However, there are some that

777
00:38:02,199 --> 00:38:05,119
can really convince management to go he got to back

778
00:38:05,159 --> 00:38:07,960
the fuck off and let this talent be the talent.

779
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,199
Stan Maine when he was a consultant was like that,

780
00:38:10,519 --> 00:38:12,639
and I think the guys from Jacob's media were like

781
00:38:12,679 --> 00:38:18,280
that in my experience. So I think there are times

782
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:26,920
where We's being so unconventional was the best. I mean,

783
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,760
I don't know. I thought like so when they would

784
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,920
tell you as consultants, they would say, you need a

785
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,280
generator and a reactor, right, a generator and a reactor.

786
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,679
So when I ended up doing the show with Tommy, Tommy,

787
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,800
you're never gonna outfunny Tommy, right, and you don't need

788
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,559
two dicks on the show. So what I would say

789
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,280
is I would be the generator. I would come up

790
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,360
with the content, but I knew how Tommy thought, and

791
00:38:52,519 --> 00:38:55,639
most of the time I knew how he would react.

792
00:38:56,039 --> 00:38:58,960
So I would find content that would elicit the best

793
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,880
from Tommy. But I didn't have to bring it out.

794
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,920
I needed to be in my role and I could

795
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,360
do other things. But I the funny was Tommy, and

796
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,599
I think with Wee's he was a great he just

797
00:39:10,679 --> 00:39:13,039
he was not a generator of content. He was a

798
00:39:13,079 --> 00:39:16,199
reactor of content. And a lot of times his stories

799
00:39:16,199 --> 00:39:18,599
and stuff, you may say, well he generated the story, yes,

800
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,800
but his best stuff was reactor. He wasn't a generator.

801
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,079
And the proof of that is when he didn't have

802
00:39:25,119 --> 00:39:28,239
a story and the show would start slowing down, he

803
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,679
would reach for what was called the complete sheet. It

804
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,079
was a service and they gave you all kinds of

805
00:39:34,079 --> 00:39:35,960
stories from the day, and they had a stupid news

806
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:40,960
section and they would write things in like in parentheses

807
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,320
at the bottom like care or at the top careful Jedies.

808
00:39:45,599 --> 00:39:47,760
That's how they would call it. They refer to the

809
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:53,199
DJs as Jedies, So careful Jedi controversial material ahead or

810
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,199
something like that. Because there were some stations that you

811
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,960
couldn't do that on right a soft rock station probably

812
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,840
subscribe to the service. There were certain things in the

813
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,119
service they wouldn't use, so they would put this warning,

814
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,480
so we would be reaching you just picking up careful

815
00:40:06,559 --> 00:40:14,599
Jedis like he did. He didn't prepare for anything. And

816
00:40:14,639 --> 00:40:16,679
that was the thing. And let me just tell you

817
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,480
the guy who produced the show before they put me

818
00:40:20,599 --> 00:40:24,480
asked me to do it. His way of producing it

819
00:40:24,599 --> 00:40:29,039
was because Weis was such a great reactor. Tom Bertina.

820
00:40:29,119 --> 00:40:33,079
Oh yeah, he would type in this guy thinks you're

821
00:40:33,119 --> 00:40:35,519
a dick. There would be no caller there, but he

822
00:40:35,639 --> 00:40:37,920
go out to this. So there was phone screening software.

823
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,679
So if you call a radio show, usually somebody answers

824
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,840
the phone, they take the and if they're any good

825
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,599
at their job, they coach you up. Keep your phone

826
00:40:47,639 --> 00:40:50,960
close to your mouth, make sure you're listening, leave a

827
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:55,760
little pause for the host react or whatever. Just simple

828
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,519
things right, and then you know, make sure they sound good.

829
00:40:58,559 --> 00:41:00,840
And then you would type in their name, put him

830
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,440
on hold, and it would come up. So Britaino would

831
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,159
go out to the phone screening, which I think it

832
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,079
was just a booth at this time, was like a

833
00:41:09,679 --> 00:41:14,639
a cubicle, and he would type in this guy thinks

834
00:41:14,679 --> 00:41:17,920
you're an asshole, or this guy can't stand he he

835
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,519
thinks you're a liberal douche or something like that, and

836
00:41:20,559 --> 00:41:23,280
Weeze would get on. So wee would go, oh wait, wait, wait,

837
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,840
bra Brah, hold on a second, let me get the

838
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,119
mother hooker over here. I've been waiting for this. And

839
00:41:29,159 --> 00:41:31,199
he'd hit it and it would be a dial tone

840
00:41:31,679 --> 00:41:34,920
because there was nobody there. Yeah, just a dial tone,

841
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,480
and he would go off. Mother hooker couldn't even stick

842
00:41:37,519 --> 00:41:41,480
around to say. He had no idea that the guy

843
00:41:41,519 --> 00:41:43,480
felt like the show is slowing down, so he just

844
00:41:43,559 --> 00:41:46,159
raise his blood pressure price, writing something in like he

845
00:41:46,199 --> 00:41:47,360
could have killed him, you know what.

846
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,079
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like he would get so worked up.

847
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,159
Speaker 5: But that was the beauty of brother Weez.

848
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 3: Was that I think that one of the great great

849
00:41:54,880 --> 00:42:00,960
things and it's now today something they try to preach

850
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:06,320
and you'll hear it. I think is authenticity. Weeze was

851
00:42:07,519 --> 00:42:10,880
I'm gonna say emotional that people would say vulnerable. I

852
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,079
would go, no, he was emotional on the air. Vulnerable

853
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,639
is part of that emotion. He would get angry, he

854
00:42:17,679 --> 00:42:21,239
would be sad, he would be real, he would be depressed,

855
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:25,320
he would be elated. Everything his heart was I guess

856
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,840
on his sleeve, you could say, but it came out

857
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,559
and he knew where he stood on things, and he

858
00:42:30,639 --> 00:42:31,840
knew where you stood with him.

859
00:42:32,039 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 2: And he was very. People don't realize. People thought he

860
00:42:34,039 --> 00:42:36,880
was cocky and stuff like that, and he really wasn't.

861
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,000
He was very. He could be insecure at times in

862
00:42:40,039 --> 00:42:42,159
a good way though. You know when someone would say

863
00:42:42,199 --> 00:42:46,360
to me, oh, well, I oh, We's is an asshole.

864
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,400
He came into my place and he demanded stuff for free,

865
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,800
and I go, no, he didn't because that was never.

866
00:42:52,039 --> 00:42:55,320
That was never Weez. I'm not Weeze would be was

867
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,400
embarrassed when people wanted to pay for No, bro, I

868
00:42:58,440 --> 00:42:58,800
got this.

869
00:42:58,960 --> 00:42:59,159
Speaker 5: You know.

870
00:42:59,679 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 2: He was very. He was a very genuine generous person.

871
00:43:04,519 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 3: Who didn't in my opinion that he was. He would

872
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:13,760
take me out, you know, producing his show. I did

873
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:18,079
enjoy it, and I really tried to put things forth

874
00:43:18,119 --> 00:43:23,800
that were good, you know when I first when I

875
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,760
first started, because well, let's go back. You were on

876
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,880
the show in the heyday, but you had one of

877
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,480
the most memorable moments on that show and.

878
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 2: It still is mentioned to this very day.

879
00:43:34,039 --> 00:43:37,559
Speaker 3: It was one of the thirty years ago funniest, funniest

880
00:43:37,599 --> 00:43:38,840
fucking things I had ever heard.

881
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 2: And it goes with what you guys, what you were

882
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,440
saying with Bull about not being you said it not

883
00:43:44,519 --> 00:43:47,239
being smart on the show, and that worked for me.

884
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,119
I was never I was not. I never played, ever

885
00:43:50,159 --> 00:43:52,480
played the smart one, especially you know I you know,

886
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,960
I have somewhat of an education, but I never played

887
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,679
the smart role. I always played and it was genuine.

888
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,159
I mean I was actually really did not know who

889
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:04,079
that person was when I read. When I read and

890
00:44:04,119 --> 00:44:06,480
you said fiddle, I didn't know that, well you were.

891
00:44:06,559 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 3: What was in the whole contest that you were smarter

892
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,000
than Tommy or something or you were I forget.

893
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 2: What the wasn't supposed to see who was the smartest

894
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:17,840
out of us? Five, I think, yeah, I think including

895
00:44:18,599 --> 00:44:21,360
Charlie was producing into time. Yeah, so me me was

896
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:22,800
just me and Tommy. I can't remember.

897
00:44:23,159 --> 00:44:27,079
Speaker 3: I don't remember either. I just remember. I mean it

898
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,000
was the one of the biggest laughs. And you couldn't

899
00:44:30,039 --> 00:44:33,320
write something like that exactly because Mark gets in there

900
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,159
to read the question and he goes fiddle castro and

901
00:44:36,519 --> 00:44:38,960
I remember just fucking falling out of.

902
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,159
Speaker 2: There because you were in there, you were watching.

903
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 3: I remember it. I remember the whole thing. I was

904
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,039
so funny. I can see it in my head. And

905
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,480
that was the beauty of that show. I mean, even

906
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:55,039
when we uh pretended he won the lottery and Cindy

907
00:44:55,119 --> 00:44:57,199
go out or he bought a ticket on the way

908
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,360
in and he got it was a big problem. But

909
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,360
it was still in the newspaper. I mean, I know,

910
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,599
we just had a one point two billion or something, right,

911
00:45:04,599 --> 00:45:08,199
and I think two people want it, but this was

912
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,360
something big. It was in the newspaper to the numbers.

913
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,519
So we took the winning numbers, bought a lottery ticket

914
00:45:13,559 --> 00:45:18,320
on the way in, and then Hans Cindy the who

915
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,239
was on the show at the time, uh the numbers,

916
00:45:21,639 --> 00:45:25,480
and she's going what he goes got she goes, oh

917
00:45:25,519 --> 00:45:27,760
my god, oh my god. And he's like, she goes.

918
00:45:28,639 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 2: And Billy Martin's wife was in was in the studios

919
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,719
at that time. Oh really, yeah, yeah, I don't know

920
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,320
if I don't know why I remember that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

921
00:45:36,679 --> 00:45:38,440
she was. She was in there, and she was sitting

922
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,599
next to Cindy. So I'll never forget because I'm standing right,

923
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,719
you know, I'm in the screening room. So Cindy's back was,

924
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,679
Cindy's back was to me, and yeah, I don't know

925
00:45:47,679 --> 00:45:49,440
what Billy Martin's wife was. Her back was to me.

926
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:54,960
And in the reaction out of both of them was huge.

927
00:45:55,079 --> 00:45:58,719
It was funny, was hilarious, and we were just in course,

928
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,280
we're dying in uh you know, in the in the back,

929
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:02,119
we're just dyeing.

930
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, because they thought he won and she and even

931
00:46:05,679 --> 00:46:09,239
Cindy was replayed a lot, and then they couldn't replace

932
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:13,920
Cindy stuff because Cindy had a sexual harassment lawsuitor. I

933
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,400
don't know what the hell went on. I actually do know.

934
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,000
I know that whole kind of what the impetus of

935
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:19,880
that was.

936
00:46:20,039 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 2: I was that all happened. I was when I left,

937
00:46:24,039 --> 00:46:25,000
I left the show.

938
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, that had that happened soon after that, so I

939
00:46:27,559 --> 00:46:31,880
was I had gone. The company that owned CMF also

940
00:46:32,119 --> 00:46:35,400
acquired the zone at the time, or or acquired that

941
00:46:35,559 --> 00:46:38,920
signal and created the zone. So they moved me to

942
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,719
afternoon mornings on the zone. I was to do mornings

943
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:48,000
over there, and they brought back. They were building what

944
00:46:48,039 --> 00:46:51,480
they called the bench because there was a scare that

945
00:46:51,519 --> 00:46:54,440
we've had pancreatic cancer and weasel tell you that if

946
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:59,079
it wasn't for Doreen getting him to John Hopkins or

947
00:46:59,159 --> 00:47:03,480
Johns Hopkins, excuse me, Uh, he wouldn't be alive today

948
00:47:03,519 --> 00:47:06,079
because it wasn't because people believe that he had pan

949
00:47:06,159 --> 00:47:11,079
created cancer. So once that passed, management said, we got

950
00:47:11,119 --> 00:47:14,639
to bring back We need a bench. Right if We's

951
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,559
goes away, the station is gonna go away, So we

952
00:47:16,599 --> 00:47:18,920
need a bench. So they brought.

953
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,159
Speaker 2: BJ back and Beth.

954
00:47:21,559 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 3: Donahue and they gave Beth Knights and I used to

955
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:30,719
get drunk and call bath, remember, and.

956
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 2: I produced the show.

957
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:35,760
Speaker 3: So yeah, so there was, uh, that was their their plan,

958
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:39,199
and then it was BJ and the Bowl and then

959
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:44,719
that wasn't working, so Bowl, I think got let go. Yeah,

960
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:48,159
and they just kept BJ and Bull went to Buffalo

961
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:54,480
and BJ yeah, because they had hired Bull. And then

962
00:47:54,519 --> 00:47:57,119
that I remember, I so I get fired from the

963
00:47:57,199 --> 00:47:59,800
zone because I turned the radio station off basically and left.

964
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:04,119
The didn't know I did that. Uh, such fucking dumb.

965
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:08,400
And that guy, the guy who's Bull's boss, called me

966
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,199
and said, I want you to do nights. I want

967
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,400
you to basically a morning show at night. And I go,

968
00:48:12,559 --> 00:48:15,199
I'm not moving a buffalo. He's like, just talk. He

969
00:48:15,519 --> 00:48:17,920
kept calling me, just talking to the tape recorders just

970
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:19,960
so I can say I got tape. Stand mean says

971
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,760
you're great, I've heard you on come on, and I

972
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,960
go and I don't want to do it. And I

973
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,679
didn't do it. I was I don't know why. I

974
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:31,000
was like afraid to go. And then uh, BJ was

975
00:48:31,119 --> 00:48:33,480
just playing music and stuff and they were paying them

976
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:38,239
up like a morning salary. So Kevin Lagret comes in

977
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,639
and goes, hey, I'm gonna I'm gonna be blowing BG out.

978
00:48:41,639 --> 00:48:43,840
He wanted two afternoons again, and I go, yeah, sure.

979
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,239
So I felt bad because I knew what was happening,

980
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,920
but you know, and I think BJ saw the writing out.

981
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 2: The problem with BG was BG's g He was the

982
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,440
og of them, you know, he was you know, he

983
00:48:55,559 --> 00:48:59,159
was one of the first you know, sidekicks. You know

984
00:49:00,159 --> 00:49:02,519
when I went to a morning show, a talk morning show,

985
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,159
and when they brought him back, it just wasn't what

986
00:49:05,199 --> 00:49:07,039
it was twenty years wow.

987
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:11,760
Speaker 3: They did things like I'll never forget sinkle to Mayo

988
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:16,880
and I think bowl and BJ or no, they did

989
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,679
something with a mayonnaise in a sink for sink of

990
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:23,239
to myo. Oh yeah right, and then they did another one.

991
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,920
I know they did this because I was sort of jealous,

992
00:49:27,039 --> 00:49:28,800
and then when I saw it happen, I was like dumb.

993
00:49:29,079 --> 00:49:31,960
They they got a hot tub and they were out

994
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,440
somewhere for Saint Patrick's Day and they sat in a

995
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:41,079
bowl of lucky charms and broadcasts got hot up filled

996
00:49:41,119 --> 00:49:43,639
it with like this is so but they were. It

997
00:49:43,679 --> 00:49:46,199
was wacky radio, you know what I mean. And it's like,

998
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:51,639
in contrast to weeds, weez isn't sitting in a ball

999
00:49:51,679 --> 00:49:54,280
of lucky charts, you know what I mean. And I

1000
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,800
was entombed in concrete. I've done similar things, but I

1001
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:58,519
didn't sit down.

1002
00:49:58,559 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 2: So BJ was used to. When once he left you know, Rochester,

1003
00:50:02,519 --> 00:50:04,559
he went into you know stations where he was doing

1004
00:50:04,559 --> 00:50:10,559
the wacky Yeah, there was a when they did the

1005
00:50:10,679 --> 00:50:13,880
promotional pictures bowling on BJ. Yeah, there's a picture of

1006
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:15,920
them right next to each other and it'll look like

1007
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:22,000
an engagement picture. And I sent it into the grease post.

1008
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:24,599
I can't remember if.

1009
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:25,199
Speaker 3: That was posted.

1010
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 2: I would think if it was post, I would have

1011
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:29,719
remembered it, but I don't remember what happened.

1012
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 3: That's so funny. All right, we'll uh, we'll take a boy.

1013
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,039
What I am going to get into the nuts and

1014
00:50:36,079 --> 00:50:38,559
bolts of radio stuff. And I'm glad you're here because

1015
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:42,239
you've lived through it and things. But I want to

1016
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,360
tell a couple of stories first, and then I know

1017
00:50:45,599 --> 00:50:49,360
people want to know what happened? Why is this happening?

1018
00:50:49,519 --> 00:50:52,840
And I will give you my perspective on it. Is

1019
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:54,840
it going to be the right one? I would say

1020
00:50:54,960 --> 00:51:00,320
probably probably, But I'm not there, so take it. But

1021
00:51:00,639 --> 00:51:02,280
I will give it to you. I'll give it to you.

1022
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:06,440
This will be good. Gets all that right after this?

1023
00:51:06,679 --> 00:51:08,400
Have you been to Leo's Bakery and Deli in East

1024
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:09,360
Rochester recently?

1025
00:51:09,519 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 2: Oh?

1026
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 3: You gotta get there. They're open every day, so it's

1027
00:51:12,079 --> 00:51:15,679
very convenient. It'll satisfy your sweet tooth, your sandwich cravings.

1028
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,440
Get the Cubano. Tell them Billified said to have the

1029
00:51:18,519 --> 00:51:23,840
Cubano sandwich, fresh baked bread, hand crafted pastries, deli favorites,

1030
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,320
and desserts like canols that'll make your rethink your self control.

1031
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,760
It's all waiting for you. So what's the best thing

1032
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:34,920
about Leo's Everything? Check them out a deskbats drive in

1033
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,280
East Rochester because every day is a good day for Leo's.

1034
00:51:38,519 --> 00:51:41,440
Because the best thing about Leo's is everything. Got a

1035
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:45,719
home improvement conundrum, Time to call in the superheroes. Mac

1036
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:49,639
of All Trades. Leaky faucett wall that mysteriously as a

1037
00:51:49,639 --> 00:51:53,000
hole in it kitchen looking like it's stuck in the nineties.

1038
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,880
Mac of All Trades is here to save the day.

1039
00:51:56,239 --> 00:52:00,840
No capes, just expert repairs, remodeling and handyman's services that

1040
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:04,800
get the job done right. Call them today at five

1041
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:08,920
eight five to zero two ninety two eighteen. That's five

1042
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:13,000
eight five to zero two ninety two eighteen, or visit

1043
00:52:13,039 --> 00:52:16,719
them online at macav Alltrades dot net because every home

1044
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,119
needs a hero. Mac of All Trades.

1045
00:52:43,599 --> 00:52:47,639
Speaker 2: When it's your favorite, I like John Hya, this is

1046
00:52:48,039 --> 00:52:49,400
This is Durian's wedding.

1047
00:52:49,199 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 3: Wedding song I was, I was after well, yeah, after wedding.

1048
00:52:53,039 --> 00:52:55,199
Speaker 2: I brought the hottest chick to that wedding because she

1049
00:52:55,199 --> 00:52:56,760
didn't even like me. She just wanted to go to

1050
00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:04,800
the wedding. Really, yeah, damn all over and stuff. Oh god,

1051
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:09,079
there were things that would tears.

1052
00:53:10,199 --> 00:53:13,639
Speaker 3: Let me pause because I'm gonna spew a bunch of

1053
00:53:13,679 --> 00:53:18,159
stuff here. Brother Weis is a radio talent uh in

1054
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,840
the in the National Radio Hall of Fame, host of

1055
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:27,039
Two Woodstocks ninety four ninety nine, the head MC who

1056
00:53:27,639 --> 00:53:31,000
suddenly retired. I think for a lot of people who

1057
00:53:31,039 --> 00:53:33,119
was sort of out of the oblivion. I don't like that,

1058
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,719
you know, just he's retiring and there's a lot of things,

1059
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:39,360
and we'll get it. I want to get into the

1060
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,800
nuts and bolts of all that stuff. But I want

1061
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:46,440
to tell you, like I knew of John Hyatt before

1062
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,639
I came here, but I knew some I knew, like

1063
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,679
drive South and other songs. I wasn't as familiar with

1064
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:53,159
this one.

1065
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,039
Speaker 2: Really, this is one of his popular ones.

1066
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 3: It is yeah, but I mean drive South this is

1067
00:53:59,039 --> 00:54:03,239
like you know what's area and yes it is yeah,

1068
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,920
and Angel Eyes, which then became Jeff Heally and eighty

1069
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:07,039
eight and so all that stuff.

1070
00:54:07,079 --> 00:54:09,679
Speaker 2: I will, oh yeah, yes, Jeff, He's is way better.

1071
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, so I uh but but this is a

1072
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,559
very beautiful song, is like, and there's a lot of

1073
00:54:15,559 --> 00:54:16,519
people who cover.

1074
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:18,519
Speaker 2: It too, John Bon, Jovie Governor.

1075
00:54:19,199 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 3: Oh god, it's awful though.

1076
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:22,519
Speaker 2: No, I don't think it was that bad as really,

1077
00:54:22,519 --> 00:54:25,519
I don't know what it's on the Nears You soundtrack

1078
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:26,760
to see.

1079
00:54:26,599 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 3: If I can find that anyway, this song when so

1080
00:54:32,519 --> 00:54:36,440
when I produced the show We's with was with his

1081
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:41,159
third wife, who's is really truly his partner in life

1082
00:54:41,199 --> 00:54:45,039
right during wonderful for for for weeks really, I mean,

1083
00:54:45,159 --> 00:54:48,079
I don't I don't think I've ever seen somebody just

1084
00:54:48,559 --> 00:54:50,760
I mean, she just went through hell for that guy.

1085
00:54:51,119 --> 00:54:55,199
Because we used to make so much fucking fun. Because

1086
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:59,719
We's had a very very rare form of cancer, yes

1087
00:55:00,039 --> 00:55:02,239
Diagel Faar and Geo cancer, and I was producing his

1088
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:06,760
show during that time, and we did all these things

1089
00:55:07,199 --> 00:55:11,400
and to raise money and Wee's Cares and a lot

1090
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,119
of people a lot of concern and stuff, and there

1091
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:20,440
some really like uncomfortable moments where we's talked about like

1092
00:55:20,599 --> 00:55:22,840
how bad the radiation was because he was just going

1093
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,639
through radiation and they basically had to zap his face

1094
00:55:25,679 --> 00:55:27,920
every day. And they found a doctor in New York.

1095
00:55:28,159 --> 00:55:31,239
Most people do not survive this cancer. They found a

1096
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:34,360
doctor in New York and he went down there. He

1097
00:55:34,519 --> 00:55:37,840
lived in New York City and he broadcasts from there

1098
00:55:38,079 --> 00:55:40,920
as much as he physically was able to do, and

1099
00:55:41,039 --> 00:55:44,199
we would do the rest of the show. And there

1100
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:45,920
was one day where he gets on and he goes,

1101
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,639
I just want to give up. I don't want to

1102
00:55:49,079 --> 00:55:51,800
and then somebody called in and I don't know who

1103
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:55,039
it was, was someone that was like always. I think

1104
00:55:55,079 --> 00:55:57,039
it might have been Mary Flood. Does that name sound

1105
00:55:57,079 --> 00:56:00,800
for that. I think it was Mary Flood who calls him, goes, Weeze, honey,

1106
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:02,800
if you don't want to do it, you know, give up,

1107
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,519
blah blah blah, all of a sudden, man out of nowhere.

1108
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 2: That's right.

1109
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:11,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, So Sammy, the kids are so like they're still

1110
00:56:11,679 --> 00:56:14,880
in Rochester and Sammy, who's now a lawyer, he is

1111
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:21,119
just a little guy. So uh weeze goes. Mary calls up.

1112
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,159
She gets on the air and I remember I remember

1113
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,880
sitting there like I was sitting behind his desk in

1114
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:29,800
his in his studio, and he's talking about this. She says,

1115
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:31,480
you know, we's if you want to just give up,

1116
00:56:31,559 --> 00:56:34,719
it's okay, we all love you. It's really really hard.

1117
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 2: Fucking I remember, Dad, she's yep, I remember.

1118
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 5: Don't you ever blah blah blah blah blah.

1119
00:56:42,199 --> 00:56:45,559
Speaker 3: Then all of a sudden, Sammy, somehow somebody gets Sammy

1120
00:56:45,679 --> 00:56:48,519
to call. He's just a little boy. It gets Sammy

1121
00:56:48,559 --> 00:56:53,159
to call and he's like, uh, Daddy, don't give up,

1122
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:54,960
don't you know? On the on the air, And it

1123
00:56:55,079 --> 00:56:57,159
was like one of them. I'm telling you when you

1124
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:01,840
talk about things that this he was so he was

1125
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,679
reality TV on the radio, right, he was more that you.

1126
00:57:05,159 --> 00:57:08,119
Who else was doing that? Right? It was just natural

1127
00:57:08,199 --> 00:57:10,199
and real and all that. But I God, I'll never

1128
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:12,639
forget that. There was a time where Sammy, when I

1129
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,320
was producing the show, got left on the school bus.

1130
00:57:16,159 --> 00:57:19,880
He fell asleep, which happens a lot. He fell asleep, Yeah,

1131
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:20,840
because you were a bus monitor.

1132
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you if you don't, if you fucking if

1133
00:57:24,039 --> 00:57:26,119
the kid's asleep on a bus, now you're getting your

1134
00:57:26,159 --> 00:57:29,159
ass fired. There's no ifens butts about there's no excuse

1135
00:57:29,239 --> 00:57:31,199
you walk up and down that damn freaking bus.

1136
00:57:31,519 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 3: So he, uh, Sammy falls asleep on the bus. And

1137
00:57:35,159 --> 00:57:40,079
I think this might be during like this school day,

1138
00:57:40,599 --> 00:57:42,840
because I get a call in the middle of the day.

1139
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:47,400
They're looking for Alan Levin and they can't find him

1140
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,519
or whatever, and it's Sammy's on the but I guess

1141
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,400
the bus driver went home to his house for lunch

1142
00:57:52,519 --> 00:57:55,239
or something, and Sammy opens the door, he gets out

1143
00:57:55,239 --> 00:57:58,000
of the bus and they can't find like it was

1144
00:57:58,039 --> 00:58:02,360
all this stuff. And this is where I think I

1145
00:58:02,639 --> 00:58:11,679
changed my whole philosophy on kids, because and it did.

1146
00:58:12,599 --> 00:58:14,360
My guys were really little that I don't think they

1147
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:18,079
were even in school yet. So we I call and

1148
00:58:18,239 --> 00:58:20,159
I think if he was at Mama's on him. He's like, ah, bro,

1149
00:58:21,519 --> 00:58:25,320
so what He'll be fine, all right, I got it.

1150
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, So.

1151
00:58:29,239 --> 00:58:32,639
Speaker 3: Dorian goes like she's flipping the fuck out everybody to

1152
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:34,440
the next day you hear the whole story, right, and

1153
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,639
he's just like and it made me realize. And I

1154
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:41,800
said this the other day to somebody in terms of

1155
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,400
like trauma for me, I was molested as a kid.

1156
00:58:44,719 --> 00:58:48,440
I go one of the worst things is everybody else's

1157
00:58:48,519 --> 00:58:52,800
reaction to it. Like as a kid, right, you see

1158
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:55,519
your like if you if your mother never found out

1159
00:58:55,599 --> 00:58:58,280
you were molested by a babysitter, she's probably crying, the

1160
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:02,360
babysitter's never come back, your parents angry you to your

1161
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,119
brain isn't big enough and you're not experienced enough to

1162
00:59:05,199 --> 00:59:09,480
process that other than I'm in trouble or I caused

1163
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:11,719
my mom to cry, and I don't want to be

1164
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,559
that person. And it made me realize, don't make a

1165
00:59:14,639 --> 00:59:17,840
big deal out of scary shit for kids. And I

1166
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,239
was like, we was like yeah, and I was like yeah.

1167
00:59:20,519 --> 00:59:22,760
And then I remember years later, like something happened at

1168
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,239
one of my kids' schools where the swat teams outside

1169
00:59:25,239 --> 00:59:29,039
the door and I'm just like it's okay, everything fine,

1170
00:59:29,039 --> 00:59:32,400
and everybody else is flipping out, and I really saw.

1171
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:36,159
I think that incident sort of changed my thinking on life,

1172
00:59:36,719 --> 00:59:39,239
and I go, you know, maybe we make too big

1173
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,039
a deal. Like if a kid falls when my kids

1174
00:59:41,079 --> 00:59:43,880
were little, and they would fall, instead of oh my god,

1175
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,719
are you okay, I'd be like, it's up, buddy, you're right,

1176
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:47,159
you're good.

1177
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:50,639
Speaker 2: That yeah, And that'suld I do it. That'suld I do it,

1178
00:59:50,679 --> 00:59:54,800
school kids fall, I'll laugh and they'll start laughing. Yes,

1179
00:59:55,079 --> 00:59:56,880
you know if you're like, oh you okay, then that's

1180
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:57,599
when you start crying.

1181
00:59:57,679 --> 01:00:02,239
Speaker 3: Yep. But A give you a thing I did when

1182
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:04,000
I started producing Weezy's show.

1183
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 2: Now, when you started producing, take me back?

1184
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 5: Were you at?

1185
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:11,159
Speaker 2: Were you downtown?

1186
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 3: We were downtown and it was like two thousand and

1187
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:17,119
it was after nine eleven, so two thousand and two maybe,

1188
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:21,280
so were you at high follows yacht? No, okay, no,

1189
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:23,599
we're still down. No, we didn't go there till two

1190
01:00:23,599 --> 01:00:24,119
thousand and eight.

1191
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:26,719
Speaker 2: Oh wow, Yeah, you produce that long?

1192
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:27,559
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1193
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:28,599
Speaker 2: Oh wow, yeah.

1194
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:31,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, they just well that's.

1195
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,559
Speaker 2: True because he wasn't he didn't stay very much, did

1196
01:00:33,719 --> 01:00:34,320
stay very long?

1197
01:00:34,599 --> 01:00:35,079
Speaker 3: I followed.

1198
01:00:35,079 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 2: Okay, that's right.

1199
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:38,119
Speaker 3: So all that stuff, I mean, I give you some

1200
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:41,920
good radio background on all this. So the first thing

1201
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:45,920
I did, they had somebody came to us and go, hey,

1202
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:50,360
Weeze can give away a pair of tickets to every

1203
01:00:50,559 --> 01:00:53,599
concert this summer at both I think it was Darien

1204
01:00:53,679 --> 01:00:57,239
Lake and Cemac. So you guys should have a contest.

1205
01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:59,840
So I put together a context, but I put together

1206
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:03,760
a contests and this is where we tolerated it, but

1207
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,280
I got I learned quickly. Not his style, right, This

1208
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:09,079
wasn't it. So I was doing this would be my

1209
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:14,639
version of sitting in a bowl full of lucky charms

1210
01:01:14,679 --> 01:01:17,360
on Saint Patrick's Day. I got a bunch of people

1211
01:01:17,639 --> 01:01:19,559
and then they had to have contests and things, and

1212
01:01:19,559 --> 01:01:23,159
there were different challenges, right, different challenges because I think

1213
01:01:23,199 --> 01:01:26,280
Survivor was on then, right, yes, so yeah, I think

1214
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:28,719
we were doing like a Survivor challenge, and I think

1215
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:30,920
people got voted off or they had to do whatever

1216
01:01:31,719 --> 01:01:33,719
some of the One of the things I remember was

1217
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:37,159
like I'm downstairs and on the ice rink and we're

1218
01:01:37,199 --> 01:01:44,920
having tricycle races with everybody in their underwear, okay, okay,

1219
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:47,920
And then somebody had to walk with like a lime

1220
01:01:48,039 --> 01:01:52,280
green bikini or something around town. And then there was

1221
01:01:53,039 --> 01:01:55,480
I'm vaguely remember this, but there was a contest where

1222
01:01:56,280 --> 01:02:00,400
a girl we put like a condom over us these

1223
01:02:00,519 --> 01:02:03,320
toes and she had to suck gussy's toes.

1224
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:04,519
Speaker 4: Ah.

1225
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 3: And we're in the studio and it's this girl and

1226
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:10,719
she's in like her bron panties and she's down on

1227
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:14,800
her knees sucking and Tommy's going, this is so hot.

1228
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:20,559
But I learned quickly like that wasn't but it worked.

1229
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:25,119
The girl I don't remember, she wasn't unattractive. No, I mean,

1230
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:26,920
you know because some of the you know, yeah, I

1231
01:02:27,559 --> 01:02:30,119
just and that was. That was it. But then it

1232
01:02:30,239 --> 01:02:32,920
was like the Montreal Comedy Fest was some of the

1233
01:02:33,119 --> 01:02:35,280
funniest for me and Tommy like that. We had just

1234
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:37,559
such a great time. Yeah, and he and I became

1235
01:02:37,719 --> 01:02:38,440
very very close.

1236
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 2: And that's why your show did well when We's went,

1237
01:02:42,559 --> 01:02:45,760
you know, over across the street. Well, I it's because

1238
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:46,360
your entire.

1239
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 3: Yes, we had a good we had a good rapport

1240
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:52,800
and then we uh, but we were enemy number one.

1241
01:02:53,119 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, oh yeah, we were sure.

1242
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:59,039
Speaker 3: I think I think Weeds even said at the end, Brod,

1243
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:03,119
I have no no animasity to anybody, including Tommy Mulay.

1244
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,239
When he retired, he said that I think Tommy that

1245
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,480
I talked and Tommy go, I heard he said this,

1246
01:03:08,599 --> 01:03:10,559
and I go, I don't know how I always thought that.

1247
01:03:11,199 --> 01:03:13,400
I always thought that they still because Tommy would take

1248
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,679
little potshots at We's like he would if he were

1249
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:17,719
sitting across from him. But we just took it very

1250
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:21,239
personally and there was all kinds of like problems.

1251
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 2: And if you're not made fun of by Tommy, you're

1252
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:26,599
not anybody. Yeah, well, I don't if he doesn't like you.

1253
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:28,800
If you if you liked he doesn't like, He's not

1254
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:30,800
gonna say anything he likes. She's gonna draw on you.

1255
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 3: But the Montreal Comedy Fest was fantastic. I remember being

1256
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:37,440
up there and just having a like Rich Voss and uh,

1257
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:41,840
Colin Quinn and Lisa Lampadelli all sitting around at table

1258
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:46,400
with Howard Lapits his buddy and Howard. Howard was so

1259
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:50,800
drunk and up from the night before. He would just point.

1260
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:53,440
Anytime Tommy said something funny, he would just point a smile.

1261
01:03:53,599 --> 01:03:54,719
He was just so Haveard.

1262
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 2: It was like the greatest agent.

1263
01:03:57,519 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 3: Uh he was not. He was We'z's good by and

1264
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:02,880
he I think in the beginning might have advised him

1265
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:04,760
on stuff. But he became an agent.

1266
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:05,199
Speaker 2: He was.

1267
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:12,039
Speaker 3: The man show. Yeah. He was Jimmy Kimmel's original manager,

1268
01:04:12,119 --> 01:04:14,639
I think, more than an agent, but yeah, yeah, and

1269
01:04:14,719 --> 01:04:18,719
he managed him, Carson Dally, I think Corolla. You know.

1270
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 2: So all those guys that made it and made it

1271
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:22,840
big in the well, they were all in l.

1272
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 3: A yeah, so they you know, they were there and

1273
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:30,400
he I don't know. Jimmy Kimmel, a creative guy, you know,

1274
01:04:30,559 --> 01:04:36,599
did this thing. Just two three other quick things. Our

1275
01:04:36,639 --> 01:04:41,239
buddy Stan Maine comes back, yep, okay, and I'm producing

1276
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:44,639
the show and he's now programming the radio station. They

1277
01:04:44,719 --> 01:04:46,639
tried to get me to program it. I wouldn't do it.

1278
01:04:46,719 --> 01:04:48,960
So then they bring stand back and Stan was just

1279
01:04:49,039 --> 01:04:51,199
here and he talked about they gave him stupid money.

1280
01:04:51,239 --> 01:04:53,480
They met every demand he wanted. So he came back

1281
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:59,159
and but Stan had Stan, very handsome guy, had horrible

1282
01:04:59,239 --> 01:05:03,679
breath so bad. We all started talking about it, but

1283
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:05,559
none of us had the balls to say anything.

1284
01:05:08,239 --> 01:05:10,679
Speaker 2: Wait, well, we'sn' then the bus to say anything.

1285
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 3: So the breath is so fucking bad. Mark, It was

1286
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:17,840
like he would be talking to you. And I used

1287
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:20,400
to say, it was so fun to watch somebody talk

1288
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:22,880
to Stan, Like there was a studio and we had

1289
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:24,719
our own studio, and there was a glass that looked

1290
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:27,239
in and I would always go, hey, hey, hey, watch this.

1291
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:29,880
They're gonna get hit with Stan's breath, And all of

1292
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:31,920
a sudden you'd see the person like they got a

1293
01:05:32,039 --> 01:05:34,280
hot poker to the eye. They kind of jerked back

1294
01:05:34,639 --> 01:05:38,199
cause it was shocking, like you're like, what is this?

1295
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:40,800
Stan is is well put together guy, And the breath

1296
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:43,480
was just fucking nasty. It'll be so mad. I fie

1297
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:47,679
listens to this. So we kept debating, like what do

1298
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:50,480
we say? What do we do? Stan comes in once

1299
01:05:50,559 --> 01:05:54,159
and I had my own little corner and he leans

1300
01:05:54,199 --> 01:05:58,440
over to talk in my microphone and Weesu's talking to

1301
01:05:58,519 --> 01:06:01,840
stan and I'm sitting there and so the breath is bad.

1302
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:05,320
It hits me and I slide mark out of the

1303
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:07,840
chair like just like I'm sitting here, but I just

1304
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:11,280
slide out of the chair, out out out, and I'm

1305
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:15,159
now laying on the ground and wheeze. And Tommy cannot

1306
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:18,000
breathe because they know what I'm doing and they aren't

1307
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:21,599
able to say anything. And Stanley's getting pissed off because

1308
01:06:21,599 --> 01:06:24,320
he doesn't know why everybody's laughing and they're kidding to it.

1309
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:27,000
And I'm just laying there because I knew that it

1310
01:06:27,199 --> 01:06:30,440
was just it was maybe two inside for radio, but

1311
01:06:30,719 --> 01:06:34,800
it was so funny. And then Harry Legg, who is

1312
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:35,440
this guy?

1313
01:06:36,119 --> 01:06:38,639
Speaker 1: Uh, when your old career gives you lemon.

1314
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:42,159
Speaker 3: That's Harry leg Harry had laughed and was down like

1315
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:44,480
he had been to New York in LA and does

1316
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:47,280
movie trailers and the voice of a lot of radio stations.

1317
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:51,199
And he came back and we're like, you got it.

1318
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:53,800
So we recruited him to tell Stan how bad is

1319
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:56,079
heath to us? And we did it on the air

1320
01:06:56,199 --> 01:06:59,079
and he did it. He told him wow, and then

1321
01:06:59,119 --> 01:07:03,920
Stan came in you pussy's That was one. We had

1322
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:06,599
an eight hundred number at the time too, for the

1323
01:07:06,639 --> 01:07:09,360
Wei show to call because I think for a brief

1324
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:13,239
period he was doing mid Days after Stern on a

1325
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:14,639
station in Buffalo.

1326
01:07:15,159 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 2: Okay, yes, it was just someone that went that went away,

1327
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:23,599
that went away when he got sick though, right, yes, yes, okay.

1328
01:07:25,079 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 3: So there were eight hundred callers and we would get

1329
01:07:27,599 --> 01:07:30,719
so that this guy uh was calling for a parts

1330
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:34,599
and he was. He became a regular caller, Harry from Carrie.

1331
01:07:35,719 --> 01:07:38,119
It was from Carrie, North Carolina. He ran up and

1332
01:07:38,199 --> 01:07:41,079
he would always see Basyco when he would hang up

1333
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:44,800
and stuff. And he had his own unique quirkiness and

1334
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:47,320
so we he would call up every once in a

1335
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:50,159
while we would have full conversations. He loved the show

1336
01:07:50,679 --> 01:07:53,679
so much so that Tommy busted his ass and put

1337
01:07:53,719 --> 01:07:58,159
together a roast for Weez's sixtieth birthday, and Harry from

1338
01:07:58,199 --> 01:08:00,800
Carry Not only he came and he stayed with Tommy.

1339
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:04,480
Tommy was divorced at the time and had a big

1340
01:08:04,519 --> 01:08:06,840
house of Webster and that was just so funny. But

1341
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:11,239
the sixtieth roast was fantastic that I had so much fun.

1342
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:15,119
Speaker 2: I couldn't get in when I was left out. Why member,

1343
01:08:15,119 --> 01:08:18,560
it was tough member only. I forgot the reason. And

1344
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:21,239
I don't even think Billy the Tori went either. Yeah,

1345
01:08:21,399 --> 01:08:22,760
I don't think either of us were there.

1346
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:25,560
Speaker 3: I did a Yeah, I did a set, and Tommy

1347
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:26,079
just set.

1348
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:28,199
Speaker 2: I can't remember.

1349
01:08:28,359 --> 01:08:30,359
Speaker 3: I think they brought in because they were worried about

1350
01:08:30,399 --> 01:08:32,880
it to have dom Irera close, and it was so

1351
01:08:33,079 --> 01:08:35,359
Dorian was going to be last and then dom and

1352
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:40,000
I don't I think dom Irera hilarious human being one

1353
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:43,199
of the greatest comics ever. Yeah, I had a hard

1354
01:08:43,359 --> 01:08:46,880
time following Dorian because she just brought the room down.

1355
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:49,720
I mean, she told stories that were so personal and stuff.

1356
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:53,359
It was really funny, really really funny. Oh that's fun Yeah,

1357
01:08:53,359 --> 01:08:57,399
it was really really great. But that was just some memory.

1358
01:08:57,479 --> 01:09:00,680
And the reason I'm doing this was we'z didn't get

1359
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:04,640
a proper sendoff. Fuck no, and that's the problem. And

1360
01:09:05,039 --> 01:09:09,239
nothing against it, and I hope anything could be taken

1361
01:09:09,279 --> 01:09:11,880
and manipulated and twisted a little bit. But Dave Kane,

1362
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:15,800
who did Middays and would get sometimes very very upset,

1363
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:18,560
and it took me years to realize why, because We's

1364
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:22,079
would run over into his time slot. Dave didn't I

1365
01:09:22,119 --> 01:09:24,840
don't think Dave gave a shit about that. What Dave

1366
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:29,039
didn't want was being left with thirty minutes of commercials before.

1367
01:09:29,399 --> 01:09:32,479
I mean, because there were all these commercials and Wee'z's

1368
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:36,319
show was so successful that everybody wanted to advertise in it,

1369
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:38,800
and they generated a tremendous amount of money for the

1370
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:39,439
radio stakes.

1371
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:42,039
Speaker 2: One time he was at one time those commercials when

1372
01:09:42,079 --> 01:09:49,279
I sold yeah, unbelievably. Yeah, it was crazy. So Dave

1373
01:09:49,279 --> 01:09:50,119
would get very upset.

1374
01:09:50,159 --> 01:09:54,119
Speaker 3: But Dave when he retired, Dave got a key to

1375
01:09:54,199 --> 01:09:58,079
the city from the mayor for his forty years on

1376
01:09:58,119 --> 01:10:03,600
the radio. Dave then, after this big fortieth celebration, retires

1377
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:07,399
and they have a big send off for him, and

1378
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:12,159
they put that station WCMF into the Rochester Music Hall

1379
01:10:12,199 --> 01:10:15,760
of Fame, and Dave did the induction, right and so

1380
01:10:16,079 --> 01:10:19,640
all of that like for Dave Kane and nothing, I

1381
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:20,439
mean great.

1382
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 2: Well, Dave Kane's and we'll say this. I know you're

1383
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:25,399
trying to say he's the Rochester staple.

1384
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:28,720
Speaker 3: Yes, but he played music. He played music. Brother, we's

1385
01:10:29,279 --> 01:10:32,600
brought a uniqueness. He's in the National Radio Hall of Fame.

1386
01:10:33,239 --> 01:10:37,319
The guy had Wei's Cares for Children charity and helped

1387
01:10:37,399 --> 01:10:40,279
other charities and did a lot of really good for

1388
01:10:40,399 --> 01:10:42,279
the city. Not that Dave didn't, That's not my point,

1389
01:10:42,399 --> 01:10:46,439
but he was deserving of a sem.

1390
01:10:46,199 --> 01:10:49,079
Speaker 2: More than that, like like, oh I'm on for three

1391
01:10:49,159 --> 01:10:52,800
hours and oh I'm retiring, and by it was like

1392
01:10:53,079 --> 01:10:56,560
you know, I mean that was like, pisses me the

1393
01:10:56,640 --> 01:11:00,840
fuck off. But these are the same people, the fucking

1394
01:11:01,039 --> 01:11:03,479
the the same management the fucked you as far as

1395
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:05,560
I'm concerned, because I know the story fucked you over.

1396
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:09,479
Uh this is the same management, right Yeah.

1397
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:12,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, well well that that I know.

1398
01:11:12,239 --> 01:11:12,800
Speaker 2: It's different.

1399
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:14,000
Speaker 3: Now mine is different.

1400
01:11:15,079 --> 01:11:16,239
Speaker 2: I'm trying what I'm trying to say.

1401
01:11:16,279 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 3: I wasn't a local level decision.

1402
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:21,560
Speaker 2: Oh okay, this is a local level decision.

1403
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:24,600
Speaker 3: Uh, none of these are going to be local level decisions.

1404
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:29,880
But I think this was a local level decision. I'll

1405
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:32,039
get into the radio nuts and bolts. You know, we

1406
01:11:32,159 --> 01:11:36,199
played I want something else. I needed to mention. During

1407
01:11:36,279 --> 01:11:38,039
the time I produced Weeds the show is when the

1408
01:11:38,079 --> 01:11:41,199
Michael Jackson trial was going on and we would get

1409
01:11:41,279 --> 01:11:43,359
these bits. It was Michael Jackson and his lawyer, and

1410
01:11:43,399 --> 01:11:46,600
I think his lawyer was was gargos Imber.

1411
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:47,600
Speaker 2: I remember that there was.

1412
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:50,600
Speaker 3: Somebody else who go, right, you DoD all these things,

1413
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:57,319
and then Michael Jackson would cry. Okay, So sometimes and

1414
01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:01,239
there was Lump, the guy Lumpy rich Rich would run

1415
01:12:01,319 --> 01:12:05,800
the board and stuff. So Doreen would call up and

1416
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:08,479
this is like even after the cancer, Weez's back, you

1417
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:12,079
doing well? Uh? And they would got into some huge

1418
01:12:12,119 --> 01:12:16,399
fight and she would call up and she'd be crying

1419
01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:20,479
on the air, and Tommy would be fucking howling, laughing,

1420
01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:22,199
and we just go, bro, you see what I gotta

1421
01:12:22,239 --> 01:12:25,079
do with that? Right? It's all this is on the radio.

1422
01:12:25,159 --> 01:12:27,239
It's all. That's what I'm saying. It's like it's a

1423
01:12:27,279 --> 01:12:30,880
reality show and I put together a game. Is it

1424
01:12:31,079 --> 01:12:34,119
the Michael Jackson bit crying? Or is it, Dorian crying.

1425
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:42,079
We put the two they sounded so similar, right and

1426
01:12:42,159 --> 01:12:44,079
they and here's the other thing that I had been

1427
01:12:44,119 --> 01:12:47,479
to mention too. So Weez goes through the cancer, Dorean.

1428
01:12:48,359 --> 01:12:52,800
I mean that woman saved his life. Oh, literally saved

1429
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:53,199
his life.

1430
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 2: There couldn't have been a perfect soul me for Weezy,

1431
01:12:58,000 --> 01:12:58,520
yes for her.

1432
01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:02,840
Speaker 3: So she saved his life and did great things. And

1433
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:05,119
he would always go, Booby, when we're done, we're gonna

1434
01:13:05,159 --> 01:13:07,800
have such a party for you, blah blah blah blah blah,

1435
01:13:08,119 --> 01:13:10,520
and then tell me and I would look at it's

1436
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:13,279
not having it. And then he recovers, he gets better

1437
01:13:13,319 --> 01:13:16,199
and uh, she's called up and they got in some

1438
01:13:16,319 --> 01:13:19,399
fight and Tommy goes, yeah, honey, it's not gonna happen.

1439
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:21,119
He said he was gonna throw you a big party

1440
01:13:21,159 --> 01:13:23,840
after the catch. It never happened. Well, why you gotta

1441
01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:28,960
this is like it was so fucking funny. And the

1442
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:34,600
unfortunate part for a guy like Weeze is that, well

1443
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:37,039
I'll get into that in the radio thing. I don't

1444
01:13:37,079 --> 01:13:44,199
say unfortunate, but super talented guy and I think a unique, unique,

1445
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:48,199
right talented and unique, but I think needed to have

1446
01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:51,960
his people that he trusted, right, and there were some

1447
01:13:52,159 --> 01:13:56,359
that he really did. And when when he left CMF

1448
01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:59,920
and went over, he tried to recreate what he had,

1449
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:03,319
but it was with people who didn't know him. Well.

1450
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:08,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, because when he for that show after leaving, after

1451
01:14:08,399 --> 01:14:12,000
leaving CMF one that show, that show, to me, he

1452
01:14:12,199 --> 01:14:14,640
was fine, he was great. It never worked and there

1453
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:17,439
was no even as money didn't know him. Even as

1454
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:20,319
much as I love Jamie lysso funny guy, great guy,

1455
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:24,720
twenty guy, everything, you know, I interned with him, he did,

1456
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:28,119
he didn't know. There was no there was no chemistry,

1457
01:14:28,239 --> 01:14:29,000
they didn't.

1458
01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:31,279
Speaker 3: Know each other and there was no way to pull

1459
01:14:31,359 --> 01:14:33,800
that off. And so those were the things. And then

1460
01:14:34,079 --> 01:14:38,920
I think he had uh I know PAULI, uh, Googliamo

1461
01:14:39,079 --> 01:14:41,800
who did it and has googli Amo sauce and uh.

1462
01:14:42,239 --> 01:14:46,680
But there was a lot of i'm gonna call it contranation, consternation,

1463
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:53,359
There a lot of infighting, backbiting stuff anger. But he

1464
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:55,920
did a nice job. He toughed it out. He did

1465
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:57,600
a nice job with that show. But I think there

1466
01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:00,239
was a really tough time because we I was so

1467
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:03,560
used to the original crew and.

1468
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:06,880
Speaker 2: I think that's why he brought Billy to Tory back.

1469
01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 3: Yes, because he needed some of the balance to right

1470
01:15:10,039 --> 01:15:11,960
the ship. And I and I will say this, I

1471
01:15:12,119 --> 01:15:16,359
think that Weez was advised that the show won't exist

1472
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:21,520
without him, and if that's the end, then everybody would

1473
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:25,119
end up being fired and available to come over. I

1474
01:15:25,319 --> 01:15:27,159
really think that that was the thing. I don't know that.

1475
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:29,279
I don't know that. I tell you this.

1476
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:32,399
Speaker 2: That's why, that's what they figured. I think that that's

1477
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:33,199
what they were counting on.

1478
01:15:33,279 --> 01:15:35,319
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm always saying that. And here's why

1479
01:15:35,399 --> 01:15:39,479
I say it. Weez did call me briefly, like uh

1480
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:43,800
like shortly before. I remember I was cross country skiing

1481
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:46,279
in Mendon Ponds Park. I get a thinking, Hey, Bob,

1482
01:15:46,279 --> 01:15:48,920
I'm going to Fox. At the time, it was called

1483
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:52,920
The Fox U blah blah blah. I'm like, all right, well, hey,

1484
01:15:53,119 --> 01:15:56,920
congratulations whatever. And then I remember being in my bathroom

1485
01:15:57,000 --> 01:16:00,800
getting a call from him and he's like, Brah, come

1486
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:04,600
produce my show. And I go, Wheez, you can't go

1487
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:06,279
on the air right away. He had to sit out

1488
01:16:06,319 --> 01:16:11,319
for eight months because he they did non competes really

1489
01:16:11,399 --> 01:16:14,039
don't hold up. But if you can prove that somebody's

1490
01:16:14,039 --> 01:16:18,600
going to financially damage you. They will put they will

1491
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:21,560
hold up, and they could prove that that. You know,

1492
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:24,720
Weez was a tsunami of a personality. Right would take

1493
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:27,560
a lot of money. So he had to sit for

1494
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:29,600
eight months. And I'm like, weeez, what am I gonna

1495
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:32,239
do for eight months? I have a kid who has

1496
01:16:32,279 --> 01:16:35,560
severe food allergies. At the time, things are expensive. I

1497
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:38,680
got I gotta work. He's like, come hang Kenny from

1498
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:41,760
Quality Homes to Late Kenny, such a sweet guy. And

1499
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:44,880
he goes go hang siding for Kenny. And I go,

1500
01:16:45,039 --> 01:16:48,079
I'm not going to hang fucking siding Weez. I'm He goes,

1501
01:16:48,359 --> 01:16:50,359
all right, bruh. He goes if they don't have you,

1502
01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:52,800
they don't have a show over there. And I'm like,

1503
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:54,479
and I feel there was a part of me that

1504
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:57,520
felt bad, but I'm like, I can't. I gotta I

1505
01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:00,720
gotta put my family first. Here's the thing. I was

1506
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:04,960
getting paid. Now I'm gonna not get paid and say

1507
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:07,479
to my wife, well, we'll just hang out for eight months.

1508
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:09,840
It's gonna be fine. I don't know. I don't know

1509
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:11,159
what they would have paid me over there.

1510
01:17:11,359 --> 01:17:12,800
Speaker 2: You don't know what happens. If all of a sudden,

1511
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:14,399
you can't come. All of a sudden, something happens and

1512
01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:16,359
you oh, yeah, yeah, you know, there's no guarantee.

1513
01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:19,560
Speaker 3: There isn't so but I always I will tell you

1514
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:22,039
I felt bad because I really did enjoy my time

1515
01:17:22,079 --> 01:17:23,640
with him, and then that sort of made me an

1516
01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:27,680
enemy to him. And there were things because he takes well,

1517
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:29,600
there were things that were said, and so then I

1518
01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:33,560
would fire back on the microphone, but I didn't hear it,

1519
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:37,359
so I'm getting it secondhand, and it was it was stupid,

1520
01:17:37,399 --> 01:17:40,399
it was bad. We'll take a minute, and then when

1521
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:43,680
we come back, I will get into why ninety five

1522
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:45,399
to one is now rock ninety five to one?

1523
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:50,600
Speaker 2: Going back, they're stepping back thirty years. I got a

1524
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:52,640
Bury Manimal story too.

1525
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:54,439
Speaker 3: All right, we'll do the Battery Manilo story and then

1526
01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:55,920
we'll get into the radio. We'll get to that right

1527
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:57,920
after that. Hey, if you've been thinking about checking out

1528
01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:02,039
recreational cannabis in Monroe County, stop thinking and start visiting

1529
01:18:02,159 --> 01:18:05,800
my buds over at MJ Dispensary. They were the first

1530
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:09,800
recreational cannabis destination in the county. That's right, The og

1531
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:13,000
spot and trust me, they know their stuff. I was

1532
01:18:13,079 --> 01:18:15,560
at their summer event and I was blown away by

1533
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:18,479
how educated and on top of it, their bud tenders are.

1534
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:20,600
I mean, these aren't just people handing you a bag.

1535
01:18:21,039 --> 01:18:24,079
They're like the Google of cannabis, but way friendlier and

1536
01:18:24,119 --> 01:18:28,199
without the pop up beds. Whether you're looking for edibles, vapes, concentrates,

1537
01:18:28,279 --> 01:18:30,840
pre rolls, or just something that helps you relax, sleep

1538
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:34,000
or deal with pain, MJ Dispensary as at all and

1539
01:18:34,119 --> 01:18:37,239
the best part, they'll guide you so you don't leave

1540
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:40,840
looking like you just picked random snacks at three am. Now,

1541
01:18:41,159 --> 01:18:43,319
maybe you're in it for the fun side, maybe you're

1542
01:18:43,399 --> 01:18:45,600
in it for the wellness side. It doesn't matter. They've

1543
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:48,880
got you covered. And here's a bonus delivery that's right

1544
01:18:49,159 --> 01:18:51,800
from Monday through Saturday ten am to eight pm, and

1545
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:54,159
even on Sundays from ten am to seven pm. They'll

1546
01:18:54,159 --> 01:18:56,760
bring the goods right to your door and no judgment

1547
01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:59,920
if you're in their pajamas, so to yourself a favor.

1548
01:19:00,199 --> 01:19:03,079
Head over to MJ Dispensary nine hundred Jefferson Road, Sweet

1549
01:19:03,119 --> 01:19:05,319
nine O two and Henrietta, or check them out online

1550
01:19:05,359 --> 01:19:08,920
at Mjdispensary five eight five dot com. We all know

1551
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:12,640
what time it is. The lazy summer slumber is wrapping up,

1552
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:15,920
and life's about to hit us with more stress, more activities,

1553
01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:19,800
and more people getting on your last nerve. And let's

1554
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:23,279
be real, you've got issues in your tissues. Don't argue,

1555
01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:26,199
you know it's true. That's why I want you to

1556
01:19:26,279 --> 01:19:29,840
go see my friend Sheila Tillick. She's not just any healer.

1557
01:19:30,159 --> 01:19:33,720
She's a recovery metaphysician and galactic grandmother. Yeah you heard

1558
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:36,520
that right. Shila doesn't just help you get rid of stress,

1559
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:39,960
she helps you blast it into another dimension. Now here's

1560
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:43,359
the deal. Everyone's healing journey is different. No cookie cutter

1561
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:47,039
nonsense with Sheila. That's why she offers all kinds of sessions,

1562
01:19:47,399 --> 01:19:52,840
Integrated energy therapy, unity, field healing, heartmath healing, galactic grandmother's

1563
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:55,399
healing sessions. And let me tell you something. If anyone's

1564
01:19:55,439 --> 01:19:58,000
gonna realign your chakras and smack the bad vibes out

1565
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:01,159
of you, it's a galactic grandmother. Maybe you're not sure

1566
01:20:01,239 --> 01:20:03,520
what you even need, easy, I want you to head

1567
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:05,960
over to Shila Tillic dot com and book your free

1568
01:20:06,079 --> 01:20:10,399
discovery call Zero Pressure zero cost. Worst case scenario, you

1569
01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:13,520
had a nice chat. Best case you finally got the

1570
01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:16,760
issues out of your tissues and start tapping into your

1571
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:20,720
divine potential. So quit doom scrolling, stop yelling at traffic,

1572
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:24,079
and do yourself a favor. Check out Shila tillic dot com.

1573
01:20:24,359 --> 01:20:28,680
That's s H E I L A T I L

1574
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:33,119
l I c h dot com. Trust me your future self, Well,

1575
01:20:33,159 --> 01:20:33,439
thank you.

1576
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 2: The Friday Songs, Yeah, the other Friday song?

1577
01:20:41,039 --> 01:20:43,079
Speaker 3: Yeah? They what was it? Original? Aim? What?

1578
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:44,840
Speaker 2: What did Dave Kean used to play?

1579
01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:52,239
Speaker 3: That was? That was Shanny? Yeah? Is that what it is? Yeah? Lived,

1580
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:55,560
but this is wee. They used to hand out the

1581
01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:58,319
copies of the lyrics so people can say, yes, yes,

1582
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:04,439
Sally there. Uh oh Sally, I forgot about I forgot.

1583
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:07,359
Speaker 2: I just say I forgot about Sally too. I like

1584
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:08,960
Sally co.

1585
01:21:28,239 --> 01:21:33,399
Speaker 3: Joff Mellencamp. Daughter's dealing with some cancer or something. Teddy

1586
01:21:34,159 --> 01:21:36,520
Oh really yeah, I don't know. I don't know much

1587
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:39,680
about that, but yeah I saw that. Uh so, what's

1588
01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:43,239
your wheeze Barry Manilow story? Because you're a fan. I

1589
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:45,760
went to see Barry Manilow. I love the jingle section

1590
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:46,760
he would do in his concert.

1591
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:49,079
Speaker 2: It's huge, huge. I just actually saw him for my

1592
01:21:49,159 --> 01:21:53,680
birthday last year. He went to Vegas. Well, I was

1593
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:56,399
producing b I was I was producing Best Show and

1594
01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:59,439
I was doing and I was still working on this show.

1595
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:03,479
So I was doing really yeah, yep seven and midnight Yeah.

1596
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:05,319
And then I go and I I was young, I

1597
01:22:05,399 --> 01:22:07,000
was my twenties. He can do ship like that.

1598
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:07,960
Speaker 3: Okay.

1599
01:22:08,359 --> 01:22:09,640
Speaker 2: Actually, you know what I used to do to be

1600
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:11,680
quite honest. I'd go over to Woodies and I would

1601
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:14,000
just go freaking drink there and then go to Weezy's show,

1602
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:17,159
do that, go home, sleep and then do Best Show.

1603
01:22:17,359 --> 01:22:21,880
So I mean he berry Man was playing cemac and

1604
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:24,600
I Want, We Want. I wanted to do a bit

1605
01:22:25,319 --> 01:22:26,920
where I was going to stay on the I wanted

1606
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:28,119
to do that bit where I was going to stay

1607
01:22:28,119 --> 01:22:31,079
on the roof and we were on Waitton Road until

1608
01:22:31,119 --> 01:22:32,640
Barry Manilow would call in.

1609
01:22:33,039 --> 01:22:35,279
Speaker 3: You were going to stay on the roof? Yes? So

1610
01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:37,439
who was he calling into bath.

1611
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:41,880
Speaker 2: Nor We's in Bath Made, He's in Bath Made made

1612
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:47,800
a bat and Sky Van Dusen had a friend who

1613
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:50,359
did voices Macro Whenerry, who was actually my sister in

1614
01:22:50,439 --> 01:23:00,119
law's cousin. He calls in and as very man and

1615
01:23:00,319 --> 01:23:03,520
like it's more morning. This is like it's seven o'clock

1616
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:06,239
in the morning. So he used that I just woke

1617
01:23:06,319 --> 01:23:08,600
up voice and during it, Weeze is.

1618
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:10,920
Speaker 3: Going, Bro, this is terrible.

1619
01:23:11,239 --> 01:23:14,800
Speaker 2: You guys are killing me. He's like ruining the fucking bed.

1620
01:23:15,359 --> 01:23:20,680
Of course, because he's so authentic with stuff, he's ruining.

1621
01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:23,880
He's ruining the bed. So we got out the phone

1622
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:25,920
and he looks at me and he has his eyesn't

1623
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:28,640
like he's going to fucking kill me, right, doesn't Beth

1624
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:32,399
Colin and go, oh my god, the soldier did it.

1625
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:36,039
She he got Barry Manila on this show and that's

1626
01:23:36,199 --> 01:23:42,039
making a huge deal. She thinks it's very Manili. So

1627
01:23:42,279 --> 01:23:44,680
she saved her ass. She saved my ass. Oh god,

1628
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:48,359
she's going I can't believe it. I wish that those

1629
01:23:48,399 --> 01:23:50,800
are those those tapes are all gone.

1630
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:54,039
Speaker 3: But we don't know because we's I've talked to Weez

1631
01:23:54,159 --> 01:24:00,439
and he said that, uh, Jake has a bunch of

1632
01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:04,159
his son has a bunch of of the tapes.

1633
01:24:04,279 --> 01:24:07,600
Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, but Weez's reaction again, this is where

1634
01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:12,399
we're going about how great organic that show is is

1635
01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:16,439
that his reaction made it even funnier than when Beth

1636
01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:20,199
called in and thought it really was Barry Manilow. So

1637
01:24:20,359 --> 01:24:22,840
it was like just Weez's reaction and you can see

1638
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:24,479
it right now. I know you can picture him right now.

1639
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:28,239
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this is rude in my show, bro. But

1640
01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:32,560
he used to I think there was like big head Todd. Yeah,

1641
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:34,840
it turned out to be a complete bit. It was

1642
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:37,800
just a listener, but Weez bought it, or or Drummel

1643
01:24:38,039 --> 01:24:40,439
or somebody was like a bit.

1644
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:45,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he whoever was pulling it was a listener

1645
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:48,840
and you couldn't if you didn't tell we'z it was

1646
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:52,600
a bit. Yeah, would work the fact that we told

1647
01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:55,279
because this we were we were doing this. We were

1648
01:24:55,319 --> 01:24:58,640
doing this to mess with Beth. Yeah, we were doing

1649
01:24:58,720 --> 01:25:01,880
so Weez was in on the so we was totally

1650
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:05,760
in on the ball, all right. We's wasn't on the

1651
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:07,960
baks all right, all right. But his whole reaction, though,

1652
01:25:08,159 --> 01:25:10,720
it was great. I can't believe, oh man, you guys

1653
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:14,119
are killing me in my show and we're like.

1654
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:19,319
Speaker 3: Oh god. It was some of the most fun and

1655
01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:21,600
unique because it was so real and you didn't know

1656
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:22,279
what was coming.

1657
01:25:22,319 --> 01:25:24,399
Speaker 2: Best I mean, come on, Bill, we were in there.

1658
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:27,720
I'm a local grease kid, Rochester kid, and I got

1659
01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:29,039
to be on that. I got to be on the

1660
01:25:29,119 --> 01:25:32,439
number one show in my twenties. I spent my twenties

1661
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:34,880
on the number one show Life. I mean that was

1662
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:37,399
the best time in my life. You know, I would

1663
01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:40,560
never give anything like that up. I mean it kind

1664
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:43,079
of did a path to where you know, they kind

1665
01:25:43,119 --> 01:25:44,560
of did a path for me. I mean sure, I

1666
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:46,600
think I got in the I worked a time warner

1667
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:49,199
for you know, in with our news in the sports

1668
01:25:49,279 --> 01:25:51,600
channel for eighteen years. So if it wasn't for the

1669
01:25:52,039 --> 01:25:55,199
wise name, I would have never gotten that job. I

1670
01:25:55,319 --> 01:25:57,640
mean I applied and that was on my resume, and

1671
01:25:57,720 --> 01:25:59,960
they're like, oh, let's bring them in, let's try him out.

1672
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:03,159
But what else was I going to tell you? I

1673
01:26:03,199 --> 01:26:05,840
was just need to say something else too, Oh go ahead,

1674
01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:07,039
I was.

1675
01:26:07,039 --> 01:26:10,800
Speaker 3: Going to get into what people have called me and said,

1676
01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:14,800
what happened? Why are they doing this right? What was

1677
01:26:15,039 --> 01:26:19,079
what was the deal? And I'm going to give you

1678
01:26:20,119 --> 01:26:22,600
the story as I know it, but you can ask

1679
01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:28,600
me any questions along the way. Okay, So when this

1680
01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:32,800
is I think all of this, all of this including

1681
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:36,000
the not proper send off for Brother We's that we

1682
01:26:36,119 --> 01:26:39,640
can agree kind of a miss for the station in

1683
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:44,720
the company is all, in my opinion, due to one thing,

1684
01:26:45,359 --> 01:26:50,479
and that is the state of radio today. And that's it.

1685
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:54,720
And I'll explain why that is. When they make these

1686
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:58,079
kind of changes for radio, right, and they're going to

1687
01:26:58,159 --> 01:27:02,479
flip the format. The only reason you leave a format

1688
01:27:03,079 --> 01:27:06,560
is because the format isn't working. You're not. Radio is

1689
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:09,840
about two things. It's ratings and revenue, right, So if

1690
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:12,159
you're not getting the ratings, you're probably not getting the revenue.

1691
01:27:12,760 --> 01:27:18,079
Sometimes in personality radio you can have marginal ratings but

1692
01:27:18,239 --> 01:27:21,000
great revenue because people are buying the brand of the

1693
01:27:21,239 --> 01:27:26,119
of the personality the wize right. And I think what

1694
01:27:26,359 --> 01:27:30,359
was happening was Weeze knew he was coming to the

1695
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:34,600
end of his career. He is, I believe, seventy eight

1696
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:39,399
years old, yes, right, so and nothing wrong, unbelievable career.

1697
01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:43,359
I don't please, don't. I worry that people will turn

1698
01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:45,399
this into something disrespectful.

1699
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:49,079
Speaker 2: And it's not disrespectful, it's it's totally Yeah.

1700
01:27:49,199 --> 01:27:53,680
Speaker 3: So from what I understand, Brother Weez had signed a

1701
01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:57,920
contract for one more year. I think that. I think

1702
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:01,880
he wouldn't have been there. If other things had stayed

1703
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:04,239
in play at the radio station, I think he would

1704
01:28:04,279 --> 01:28:11,159
have retired maybe a little bit sooner. Yeah yeah, they

1705
01:28:11,319 --> 01:28:13,680
just hit me. Yeah yeah, And you can ask anything

1706
01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:17,560
and I'll see how I can answer it. So he

1707
01:28:19,319 --> 01:28:21,800
So I think they knew that this was coming to

1708
01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:27,319
an end December thirty first of this year, I believe, right.

1709
01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:29,840
I think I'm not part of these things. So again,

1710
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:34,439
so I think the rest of the station, the ratings

1711
01:28:35,279 --> 01:28:40,199
were not good anymore. For Talk, it just wasn't doing well.

1712
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:43,079
Someone told me it was the thirteenth station in the market.

1713
01:28:43,199 --> 01:28:44,960
I don't know what demo they were looking at, but

1714
01:28:45,079 --> 01:28:45,520
that's what I was.

1715
01:28:45,560 --> 01:28:48,000
Speaker 2: And there's a bunch of different demos in the right.

1716
01:28:48,159 --> 01:28:51,800
Speaker 3: But I mean, if you're thirteenth in the they do

1717
01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:55,039
have a demo that's twelve plus. That isn't good. You

1718
01:28:55,119 --> 01:28:56,640
want to at least, you know what I'm saying, You

1719
01:28:56,720 --> 01:28:59,680
want to be somewhere. But anyway, so the ratings weren't good,

1720
01:29:00,039 --> 01:29:03,199
and so therefore the revenue isn't good. So now the

1721
01:29:03,399 --> 01:29:06,880
company has to say what do we do? And it's

1722
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:10,079
not locally owned, it is an iHeartRadio station. It is

1723
01:29:10,159 --> 01:29:13,680
an enormous company with many, many, many layers. Any kind

1724
01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:16,439
of change that they're gonna do is signed off on

1725
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:19,960
by many different guys at many different levels. It's an

1726
01:29:20,079 --> 01:29:25,000
enormous company. So what they do is, hey, we want

1727
01:29:25,039 --> 01:29:27,279
to make a change. Okay, what are we gonna do.

1728
01:29:27,359 --> 01:29:30,920
We're gonna go to music because a it's cheaper, right,

1729
01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:36,960
and I understand when people go, I mean Stan Main

1730
01:29:37,039 --> 01:29:40,359
sat here, he programmed radio stations. He's like, man, YouTube

1731
01:29:40,439 --> 01:29:43,560
music does an unbelievable job. He goes, I get the

1732
01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:45,760
oh wow factor, I get all of it. It's programmed.

1733
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:48,359
So well, yeah, he goes, I don't know why anybody

1734
01:29:48,399 --> 01:29:51,319
would listen to radio now, but there are people who do.

1735
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:53,199
They're just there are There are people.

1736
01:29:53,079 --> 01:29:56,159
Speaker 2: Out there there to do but not many anymore. When

1737
01:29:56,199 --> 01:29:58,760
you can go to a podcast, and you can listen

1738
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:00,720
to a podcast exactly what stand scene.

1739
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:02,760
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, well he was saying music wise,

1740
01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:09,319
he's saying like music right. So now they decide that

1741
01:30:09,399 --> 01:30:11,800
they're going to do this. Now, when did they decide

1742
01:30:11,800 --> 01:30:15,439
they were going to do this. They decided they were

1743
01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:18,920
going to do this probably four to six months ago,

1744
01:30:20,119 --> 01:30:22,640
because there's so many layers of this right, and then

1745
01:30:23,079 --> 01:30:26,800
I guarantee you I will absolutely, I will put money

1746
01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:30,079
on the fact that they did what's called a music

1747
01:30:30,199 --> 01:30:34,279
test to find out where can we fit rock. Don't

1748
01:30:34,319 --> 01:30:37,279
forget you've got a somewhat of an alternative rock station

1749
01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:41,000
and you've got a classic rock station already here. You're

1750
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:44,000
looking for a lane that it's going to be somewhat unique.

1751
01:30:44,199 --> 01:30:47,760
So they do what's called a music test. Maybe somebody

1752
01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:49,600
listening to the podcast was part of it. I don't

1753
01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:51,239
know how they do it anymore. It used to be

1754
01:30:51,399 --> 01:30:55,119
that they would call out and say, hey, can you

1755
01:30:55,239 --> 01:30:58,319
take be part of a music survey for a radio station,

1756
01:30:58,840 --> 01:31:01,359
and then they would say, if this song were played,

1757
01:31:01,479 --> 01:31:03,600
and they would just play the hook, would you listen

1758
01:31:04,039 --> 01:31:06,680
or would you push the button? And then that's how

1759
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:08,880
they decided what they were playing. This is going back

1760
01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:11,880
a ways, but that'll explain to you kind of what

1761
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:15,039
a music test is. So in order for that to

1762
01:31:15,159 --> 01:31:19,159
be done, it takes time. So these guys knew they

1763
01:31:19,239 --> 01:31:22,520
were making this move a long time ago, I'll say

1764
01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:25,840
spring May. They knew they were doing this. They also

1765
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:27,840
knew who they were keeping and who they were not

1766
01:31:28,079 --> 01:31:32,479
keeping because some people have remained and some people have

1767
01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:36,000
remained because one of the big things in radio today

1768
01:31:36,279 --> 01:31:40,880
as a personality is endorsements. What money is tied to

1769
01:31:41,079 --> 01:31:43,159
you as a personality.

1770
01:31:44,239 --> 01:31:47,800
Speaker 2: Right, makes sense? So far Kee've gone the.

1771
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:51,960
Speaker 3: Goal the goal for this if your a personality. And

1772
01:31:52,079 --> 01:31:55,720
I don't think they've ever talked about it like ever.

1773
01:31:55,920 --> 01:31:58,840
I don't. I think if you ask any personality who

1774
01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:02,439
was in the building with brother We's they never talk

1775
01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:05,439
about this. But the guys in when I went in

1776
01:32:05,479 --> 01:32:08,279
to interview in LA and when I was doing some

1777
01:32:08,439 --> 01:32:13,159
national stuff on those meetings, they would go, if you're

1778
01:32:13,199 --> 01:32:15,039
at the local level doing stuff, you want to make

1779
01:32:15,079 --> 01:32:21,039
sure you're bringing in three times your salary to remain relevant.

1780
01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:27,079
It's basically kind of keep yourself right in there. So

1781
01:32:29,079 --> 01:32:33,079
obviously people weren't just bringing in the money. And I

1782
01:32:33,199 --> 01:32:35,479
said this the other day. Business is a cold thing.

1783
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:37,079
Business has no emotion.

1784
01:32:37,760 --> 01:32:38,039
Speaker 2: We do.

1785
01:32:38,319 --> 01:32:40,640
Speaker 3: We have an attachment to these people. We like them,

1786
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:43,079
we like their stories, we like listening to them, but

1787
01:32:44,159 --> 01:32:47,319
not as much anymore. The ratings weren't as good. They

1788
01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:52,520
just weren't there. And the big guy in town who

1789
01:32:52,760 --> 01:32:55,359
ushered in this format, and I used to say, you know,

1790
01:32:56,279 --> 01:32:59,039
you wouldn't have an all talk station if it wasn't

1791
01:32:59,079 --> 01:33:02,159
for brother Weez, who made the morning show work. Yes,

1792
01:33:02,439 --> 01:33:04,680
you know. And then they put in Kimberly and Beck

1793
01:33:04,720 --> 01:33:06,960
in the afternoon and they ended up blowing themselves up.

1794
01:33:07,319 --> 01:33:09,399
But and then they were playing music in between, and

1795
01:33:09,479 --> 01:33:11,399
they came to John and I go, how about you

1796
01:33:11,479 --> 01:33:13,239
guys going there and do a talk show. And we

1797
01:33:13,359 --> 01:33:15,640
did and we got it to number one, right, that

1798
01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:17,760
was the number one talk That was the number one

1799
01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:20,359
show in the middle of the day with adults twenty

1800
01:33:20,399 --> 01:33:24,680
five to fifty four, and so you know it was

1801
01:33:24,880 --> 01:33:30,159
working then it wasn't. And that's why this change has happened.

1802
01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:34,159
And it has nothing to do now. Why not Why

1803
01:33:35,199 --> 01:33:38,039
no announcement of Weez's retirement. I can't get into the

1804
01:33:38,159 --> 01:33:41,199
head of that stuff. But what I can tell you

1805
01:33:41,439 --> 01:33:44,279
is that corporate radio, and I always say radio I

1806
01:33:44,479 --> 01:33:47,520
do believe is still viable. I think it's more viable

1807
01:33:47,640 --> 01:33:50,479
on what I would say, the format that they called

1808
01:33:50,520 --> 01:33:53,680
this spoken word, but this talk. If you did it

1809
01:33:53,720 --> 01:33:56,720
at the local level, if you had people talking about

1810
01:33:57,560 --> 01:34:00,840
like the Wei Show, I think the WI Show as

1811
01:34:00,920 --> 01:34:04,119
the old we Show, would survive even today on radio,

1812
01:34:04,199 --> 01:34:07,039
because you're talking about local things that local people are

1813
01:34:07,119 --> 01:34:10,880
affected by directly, right right, and impacted by directly, whether

1814
01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:18,359
it be news or whatever. So I think that corporations

1815
01:34:18,399 --> 01:34:21,119
have gotten so big, and I think maybe even in

1816
01:34:21,199 --> 01:34:23,640
your own job, people can think of this. You're doing

1817
01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:28,399
more than one thing now, right. So they have a

1818
01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:32,800
guy in charge at the radio station who oversees the market,

1819
01:34:33,319 --> 01:34:36,520
and he oversees all the way down the through eight

1820
01:34:36,520 --> 01:34:37,479
to Sussex, New Jersey.

1821
01:34:38,279 --> 01:34:39,520
Speaker 2: Now is that our old butt?

1822
01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:39,960
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1823
01:34:40,199 --> 01:34:42,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you know what I think ends.

1824
01:34:42,279 --> 01:34:47,479
Speaker 3: But he's in charge of like Poughkeepsie, Albany, Syracuse, Rochester. Okay,

1825
01:34:48,199 --> 01:34:50,359
that's a lot, right, And then he's got people under

1826
01:34:50,439 --> 01:34:53,720
him who oversee those markets directly. Then there's on the

1827
01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:58,119
programming side, right, there's a programming guy who's not familiar

1828
01:34:58,239 --> 01:35:01,199
with Weez, who's more of a music person and is

1829
01:35:01,479 --> 01:35:05,000
nothing wrong with that, who was overseeing all the operations

1830
01:35:05,039 --> 01:35:10,119
of Syracuse and Rochester. Okay. My point is there's nobody

1831
01:35:10,239 --> 01:35:14,800
there and that's left that really knows brother We's other

1832
01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:21,000
than Doreen really really well and has the capability you

1833
01:35:21,159 --> 01:35:26,000
need someone who can put all that together right, you

1834
01:35:26,079 --> 01:35:29,239
know We's wee'z is great, but he's like, rah, yeah,

1835
01:35:29,239 --> 01:35:31,239
I just take care of me, right, know what I mean.

1836
01:35:31,520 --> 01:35:33,960
We's when he sold, didn't even write up his own

1837
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:36,319
sales things. I think he paid somebody to fill out

1838
01:35:36,359 --> 01:35:38,439
his sales report, you know what I'm saying, Like, okay,

1839
01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:42,680
so that he's not gonna do it, and Doreen's got

1840
01:35:42,840 --> 01:35:45,239
a ton of shit she's doing just with family and

1841
01:35:45,399 --> 01:35:49,479
kids and grandkids, and okay, so you need somebody here

1842
01:35:49,640 --> 01:35:52,760
to organize it. And they don't have anybody there that

1843
01:35:53,199 --> 01:35:56,079
that a knows the show well enough and b has

1844
01:35:56,159 --> 01:35:58,600
the skills to do it. That's why it didn't happen,

1845
01:35:58,880 --> 01:36:02,920
I'm telling you right now, Like, because if you actually

1846
01:36:03,159 --> 01:36:05,880
had a meeting somewhere and you want to talk about

1847
01:36:06,079 --> 01:36:08,680
I'm gonna say, if ratings are down, revenues down, so

1848
01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:12,279
they're not pulling in the money to be a viable

1849
01:36:12,439 --> 01:36:14,840
talk station all the time. And we know that the

1850
01:36:14,920 --> 01:36:18,039
big viable personality is leaving. And I'm not saying Weeze

1851
01:36:18,079 --> 01:36:19,880
wasn't making money, but he's leaving at the end of

1852
01:36:19,920 --> 01:36:23,199
the year his contract ended. That's so they're kind of

1853
01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:26,479
forward thinking, like, let's get out ahead of this, and

1854
01:36:26,640 --> 01:36:31,640
I believe that they were gonna wind Weeze down. And

1855
01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:36,039
I thought, because I would, I get told some things

1856
01:36:37,399 --> 01:36:40,560
that he was asked to do his old style music

1857
01:36:40,680 --> 01:36:45,600
show on Saturdays and Sundays, right, And I think that

1858
01:36:46,039 --> 01:36:50,279
they from talking to Weeze, they wanted it to make

1859
01:36:50,319 --> 01:36:54,119
it sound like it was his idea to bring on

1860
01:36:54,279 --> 01:36:56,600
the music. I think there were a lot of fights

1861
01:36:56,960 --> 01:36:59,600
on that day. I have heard there were a lot

1862
01:36:59,640 --> 01:37:03,079
of fights, a lot of arguments, to the point where

1863
01:37:03,640 --> 01:37:08,920
things got so escalated. People were getting scared for real,

1864
01:37:09,399 --> 01:37:12,760
like cops, cops, cops call.

1865
01:37:13,359 --> 01:37:15,640
Speaker 2: So let me ask you a question, who would you

1866
01:37:15,760 --> 01:37:20,920
bring in two? Like if you were keeping mees on,

1867
01:37:21,239 --> 01:37:23,359
who would you bring in that they could they would

1868
01:37:23,479 --> 01:37:24,479
know the show better name.

1869
01:37:24,520 --> 01:37:29,640
Speaker 3: But now, now hang on a second, because you need

1870
01:37:29,760 --> 01:37:33,760
somebody who can handle what is entailed in that.

1871
01:37:34,840 --> 01:37:38,039
Speaker 2: So somebody likes Stan. So somebody likes Stan mein correct.

1872
01:37:39,279 --> 01:37:40,199
Stan wouldn't want to do that.

1873
01:37:40,319 --> 01:37:40,920
Speaker 3: He's not the guy.

1874
01:37:41,000 --> 01:37:41,720
Speaker 2: No, he's not the guy.

1875
01:37:41,920 --> 01:37:44,279
Speaker 3: No, you know who the guy is. You're looking at him.

1876
01:37:44,439 --> 01:37:46,600
Speaker 2: I agree. I didn't want to say. I didn't want

1877
01:37:46,600 --> 01:37:49,720
to say it sounds like, no, it's not I absolutely

1878
01:37:49,800 --> 01:37:51,079
could have, and I did.

1879
01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:54,399
Speaker 3: I used to do year and reviews with we's with

1880
01:37:54,520 --> 01:37:56,720
these the top five callers of the year, and I

1881
01:37:56,720 --> 01:37:58,399
would put all their calls together. I would be up

1882
01:37:58,399 --> 01:37:59,920
to like two in the morning working on these things.

1883
01:38:00,039 --> 01:38:02,680
Speaker 2: And they don't they didn't have the balls to bring

1884
01:38:02,920 --> 01:38:03,479
to bring you in.

1885
01:38:03,680 --> 01:38:08,600
Speaker 3: Well, they couldn't bring me in because I they I

1886
01:38:08,760 --> 01:38:12,720
haven't really talked about this, and I don't know. Weeze

1887
01:38:12,720 --> 01:38:14,520
even said to me, Bra, why didn't you ever tell

1888
01:38:14,520 --> 01:38:21,680
your story about And I'm like, because I, uh was embarrassed.

1889
01:38:21,880 --> 01:38:22,720
Speaker 2: You can tell it now.

1890
01:38:23,199 --> 01:38:32,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, I was extremely embarrassed and humiliated, frustrated. It

1891
01:38:32,119 --> 01:38:35,560
up ended my world. Sure, yeah, it up ended my world.

1892
01:38:37,560 --> 01:38:41,239
I I don't even like to say it because it

1893
01:38:41,359 --> 01:38:46,640
kind of opens up a door too. I always say,

1894
01:38:46,720 --> 01:38:48,920
you got to look for patterns in a person's life,

1895
01:38:49,039 --> 01:38:57,279
right right, And I was. They they were looking to

1896
01:38:57,479 --> 01:39:01,000
what were they going to do after Weeze and they

1897
01:39:01,079 --> 01:39:04,000
wanted They had pulled John and I in and they

1898
01:39:04,119 --> 01:39:08,600
said we want it'll be you guys taken over for

1899
01:39:08,720 --> 01:39:11,720
wee'z right right wind down. And I think that made

1900
01:39:11,800 --> 01:39:16,680
sense to people. So what the management thought was people weren't.

1901
01:39:17,119 --> 01:39:20,359
Weez's audience wasn't familiar with me, and I didn't necessarily

1902
01:39:20,439 --> 01:39:23,319
agree with that, but that's what's their thinking. So they

1903
01:39:23,479 --> 01:39:26,600
wanted me to be part of Weez's show so that

1904
01:39:26,760 --> 01:39:30,279
way it would go away. So when we talk about

1905
01:39:30,880 --> 01:39:33,920
people being really stretched and doing more than one job

1906
01:39:33,960 --> 01:39:36,680
and overseeing more than one market, like sales managers are

1907
01:39:36,760 --> 01:39:41,479
meeting with people who are not in Rochester, they're count

1908
01:39:41,640 --> 01:39:44,640
you know, having meetings with people in Albany via zoom

1909
01:39:44,800 --> 01:39:48,560
or whatever or whatever they use. And people are doing

1910
01:39:48,800 --> 01:39:54,560
so much more because it's the corporate world. So when

1911
01:39:54,640 --> 01:39:57,159
I did the WHAM Morning News, I did the talk

1912
01:39:57,239 --> 01:39:59,439
show with John and then I would do all the

1913
01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:03,479
classes rock stations right around the country. I do, okay,

1914
01:40:03,560 --> 01:40:05,479
so that was kind of my day. Then they said

1915
01:40:05,520 --> 01:40:08,199
to me, we want you to record the business reports,

1916
01:40:08,479 --> 01:40:11,279
go in and produce brother We's' show, then to go

1917
01:40:11,439 --> 01:40:14,640
do the show with John and the national stuff. So

1918
01:40:14,840 --> 01:40:18,479
that that's what I was doing when I left. But

1919
01:40:18,600 --> 01:40:21,359
I think that I was a threat to some people

1920
01:40:21,439 --> 01:40:29,760
in there and things got ugly, and I don't know,

1921
01:40:30,159 --> 01:40:32,680
I don't know what to say. I know you, well,

1922
01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:34,520
here's why I don't want to say, because.

1923
01:40:34,840 --> 01:40:38,479
Speaker 2: I can, I say it.

1924
01:40:39,239 --> 01:40:41,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead, go ahead.

1925
01:40:41,680 --> 01:40:44,239
Speaker 2: There was a person in there it didn't like you,

1926
01:40:45,560 --> 01:40:49,199
and you were accused of doing something that you didn't do.

1927
01:40:50,039 --> 01:40:53,720
And then there was a little asshole that that hung

1928
01:40:53,800 --> 01:40:58,000
out on the show that backed her up on what

1929
01:40:58,520 --> 01:40:58,960
she was doing.

1930
01:40:59,039 --> 01:41:03,000
Speaker 3: I was accused of grabbing somebody's rearanded a party, Yes,

1931
01:41:03,800 --> 01:41:11,520
and I but but it was so all right.

1932
01:41:11,600 --> 01:41:13,680
Speaker 2: I guess now I got it, might as well, I

1933
01:41:13,720 --> 01:41:16,399
gotta tell you. But but here's the thing that people

1934
01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:19,279
have always asked me what happened? And that's not my

1935
01:41:19,399 --> 01:41:21,560
place to tell them. I said you, I said you,

1936
01:41:21,760 --> 01:41:22,359
you know us.

1937
01:41:22,560 --> 01:41:24,840
Speaker 3: I decided to take the high road and not and

1938
01:41:25,000 --> 01:41:28,399
not talk about it because I thought it would I

1939
01:41:28,560 --> 01:41:35,640
was embarrassed and it became a like he said, she

1940
01:41:35,840 --> 01:41:40,279
said situation. So what had happened was I was on

1941
01:41:40,479 --> 01:41:43,680
Wes's show. A story came up about girls getting into

1942
01:41:43,720 --> 01:41:48,600
a fight on a soccer field, and but the person

1943
01:41:48,640 --> 01:41:51,720
who had the story was not sharing the story with everybody,

1944
01:41:51,920 --> 01:41:54,359
and they were not in the studio. They were remote

1945
01:41:54,479 --> 01:41:57,720
as well as Weez was remote, and they were talking

1946
01:41:57,920 --> 01:42:02,319
to Doreen about the story. And but I had no

1947
01:42:02,520 --> 01:42:04,960
idea of it. I didn't know anything about it. So

1948
01:42:05,119 --> 01:42:07,960
it comes up and I'm searching for it because I

1949
01:42:08,000 --> 01:42:11,600
can hear them in what's called Q during commercials talking,

1950
01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:14,760
so we're not looped in, so we're being kind of

1951
01:42:14,880 --> 01:42:17,319
isolated from the story. But fine, I got this early

1952
01:42:17,359 --> 01:42:19,439
in the morning. It's fine. I'm not gonna I'm not

1953
01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:23,439
looking to make anybody's day miserable and just not so

1954
01:42:24,079 --> 01:42:27,399
I'm searching for it. And we says to me at

1955
01:42:27,439 --> 01:42:29,319
one point, Brah, what did you think of that? And

1956
01:42:29,439 --> 01:42:33,079
I go, girls fighting, that's gonna hunt just to be stupid, right,

1957
01:42:33,159 --> 01:42:34,920
and I just to make an edgy kind of thing

1958
01:42:35,000 --> 01:42:37,680
that would sort of jump out at you, And but

1959
01:42:38,279 --> 01:42:40,279
it was. It was high school girls. It was just weird.

1960
01:42:40,840 --> 01:42:43,840
But what was interesting about this was there was a

1961
01:42:43,960 --> 01:42:47,079
male reraf standing there who did nothing in this video

1962
01:42:47,199 --> 01:42:53,079
and I so we we it gets kind of talked

1963
01:42:53,119 --> 01:42:56,199
about and passed over. And the only reason is no

1964
01:42:56,319 --> 01:42:58,720
one's had time to look at this. No one knew

1965
01:42:58,920 --> 01:43:01,479
that somebody wanted to this up on the show. This

1966
01:43:01,600 --> 01:43:05,319
person didn't share that information. So it's not like these

1967
01:43:05,359 --> 01:43:07,279
are some of the things like you gotta look at

1968
01:43:07,319 --> 01:43:09,199
the tape and go, oh my god, that guy's not

1969
01:43:09,319 --> 01:43:11,600
doing anything. But we didn't have time. I didn't have

1970
01:43:11,640 --> 01:43:14,239
time to do that during the show. We're on the air, right,

1971
01:43:15,239 --> 01:43:21,000
So John and I would leave at like ten, we

1972
01:43:21,079 --> 01:43:23,479
would get a break before our show that began. I

1973
01:43:23,520 --> 01:43:25,680
don't even know was it eleven eleven to two. I

1974
01:43:25,720 --> 01:43:28,680
don't even remember. I really don't, but so we get that.

1975
01:43:28,880 --> 01:43:30,880
So now when we come on, I went and looked

1976
01:43:30,920 --> 01:43:32,359
at it and I'm like, oh my god. I go, yeah,

1977
01:43:32,800 --> 01:43:36,199
I remember my dad being a teacher and saying how

1978
01:43:36,319 --> 01:43:39,800
he would break up fights among girls because he was

1979
01:43:39,880 --> 01:43:42,479
in the city of Poughkeepsie, and he would always use

1980
01:43:42,560 --> 01:43:45,399
his forearm, never his hand, because he never wanted to

1981
01:43:45,439 --> 01:43:48,039
be accused. So I said, I understand why this ref

1982
01:43:48,680 --> 01:43:50,760
It was a female coach that came out and was

1983
01:43:50,800 --> 01:43:53,520
separating the girls, and I go, yeah, you don't want

1984
01:43:53,600 --> 01:43:58,119
to be accused of inappropriately touching somebody during this. So

1985
01:43:58,640 --> 01:44:01,039
we so I bring it up with John and we're

1986
01:44:01,319 --> 01:44:03,920
talking about it and talking about how hard that is

1987
01:44:04,000 --> 01:44:06,239
and what is the right thing and blah blah, And

1988
01:44:06,359 --> 01:44:10,520
the person who had this story originally sends me a

1989
01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:12,640
textgo and this is bullshit. I bring it up in

1990
01:44:12,720 --> 01:44:15,319
the morning and you guys say nothing, and now you're

1991
01:44:15,439 --> 01:44:18,359
doing a whole set on it. So I thought the

1992
01:44:18,479 --> 01:44:20,199
smart thing to do was to call the person, go

1993
01:44:20,319 --> 01:44:22,760
I'm so sorry, because I was also being accused of

1994
01:44:22,880 --> 01:44:27,560
holding material back, and I had these conversations at nauseum

1995
01:44:27,600 --> 01:44:30,399
with Weez and Doreen that I was holding material back

1996
01:44:31,399 --> 01:44:33,680
from the WI show to save it for Detulio Moran,

1997
01:44:34,039 --> 01:44:37,279
and I really I wasn't. It was just that some days,

1998
01:44:37,720 --> 01:44:42,239
stories developed further by ten o'clock in the morning than

1999
01:44:42,279 --> 01:44:44,800
they were when we started the show at six. Do

2000
01:44:44,880 --> 01:44:46,479
you understand What's I mean?

2001
01:44:46,479 --> 01:44:47,720
Speaker 2: It's just just the like.

2002
01:44:47,920 --> 01:44:50,840
Speaker 3: And so we were sort of in that midday section

2003
01:44:51,039 --> 01:44:52,640
and I would try to call and go that's not

2004
01:44:52,720 --> 01:44:54,560
the case, that's not the case, and I was in

2005
01:44:54,800 --> 01:44:57,920
like this ambiguous zone. So I decided to call the

2006
01:44:58,000 --> 01:44:59,960
person instead of text back, and that was my mistake,

2007
01:45:00,600 --> 01:45:04,239
and I said the No. I called them on my

2008
01:45:04,359 --> 01:45:06,600
phone during a commercial break. I called it the person,

2009
01:45:06,680 --> 01:45:09,079
I said, and right away they're like, I can't believe this,

2010
01:45:09,159 --> 01:45:12,239
and I said, we're not doing that, and the volume

2011
01:45:12,319 --> 01:45:14,079
goes up. So now I raise my volume and the

2012
01:45:14,119 --> 01:45:16,479
next thing I know, I'm being accused of yelling at

2013
01:45:16,520 --> 01:45:21,399
the person, and I'm being accused of this, and management

2014
01:45:21,720 --> 01:45:24,079
is now involved, and I'm saying, I'm not going back

2015
01:45:24,119 --> 01:45:26,680
on the Wii show. This is crazy until this is settled.

2016
01:45:27,319 --> 01:45:30,039
And the person said that I touched them at a

2017
01:45:30,199 --> 01:45:36,039
party a year and a half prior, so wow, And

2018
01:45:36,520 --> 01:45:40,680
I said, so I'm like no, So now there's an investigation,

2019
01:45:43,279 --> 01:45:44,079
So hang.

2020
01:45:43,960 --> 01:45:45,359
Speaker 2: On, Like I said, don't understand.

2021
01:45:45,720 --> 01:45:48,039
Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you. I'm not using the name,

2022
01:45:48,079 --> 01:45:50,279
but you can figure out who it is. And all

2023
01:45:50,319 --> 01:45:54,439
I'm telling you is the facts from my perspective. She's

2024
01:45:54,479 --> 01:45:57,079
got another side to this, and so I and I

2025
01:45:57,199 --> 01:46:01,039
never wanted to wade into this in any form because

2026
01:46:03,279 --> 01:46:05,079
I would be like, but, well, look at my pattern.

2027
01:46:05,119 --> 01:46:07,560
I've never, I've never. It's not who I am, it's

2028
01:46:07,600 --> 01:46:11,840
not that's not me. That's not me. So what happened

2029
01:46:12,000 --> 01:46:13,920
was they were doing an investigation and they come to

2030
01:46:14,000 --> 01:46:16,560
me and they go it looks like they can't find anything.

2031
01:46:16,640 --> 01:46:18,640
No one's agreeing that they saw this, blah blah blah

2032
01:46:18,680 --> 01:46:24,319
blah blah. Well apparently there was one more discussion and

2033
01:46:25,279 --> 01:46:29,279
it was said that this person was penetrated. That was

2034
01:46:29,319 --> 01:46:31,079
the term that was used. And I only know that

2035
01:46:31,279 --> 01:46:34,000
because I have friends high up in the company who

2036
01:46:34,159 --> 01:46:36,680
talked to the people in HR and as they said,

2037
01:46:36,720 --> 01:46:38,600
if you would think if that had happened, there would

2038
01:46:38,640 --> 01:46:43,359
be quite the outrage, and that didn't. So then they

2039
01:46:43,439 --> 01:46:45,159
talked to one other person. They called me and said

2040
01:46:45,880 --> 01:46:49,680
you're fired. And it wasn't a local decision, it was

2041
01:46:49,880 --> 01:46:52,359
it was the CEO of the company. It got to

2042
01:46:52,479 --> 01:46:55,520
him and I know that, and so at that time,

2043
01:46:56,319 --> 01:46:58,720
I'm like, oh my god, right, what am I going

2044
01:46:58,800 --> 01:47:03,199
to do? And and I'm scrambling, and so I meet

2045
01:47:03,279 --> 01:47:06,000
with lawyers and I find out it's going to cost

2046
01:47:06,119 --> 01:47:08,239
me x amount of dollars to do this, and it

2047
01:47:08,399 --> 01:47:11,920
was all like, you know, we're talking fifty thousand plus

2048
01:47:12,760 --> 01:47:15,960
and they want to hire all kinds of private investigators

2049
01:47:16,000 --> 01:47:19,640
for me to go and talk to people and all

2050
01:47:19,680 --> 01:47:23,800
this I'm like, oy. So I leave and I leave

2051
01:47:23,880 --> 01:47:26,720
the lawyer's office and I and they're saying, can we

2052
01:47:26,760 --> 01:47:28,880
talk to one person because this one person just meet

2053
01:47:28,920 --> 01:47:35,159
the person for coffee? And I call that person and

2054
01:47:35,279 --> 01:47:38,159
this was like a Friday, and they and they said, yep,

2055
01:47:39,479 --> 01:47:41,520
and it's set up that this person is going to

2056
01:47:41,600 --> 01:47:47,880
meet these lawyers for coffee on Monday, and I get

2057
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:50,920
a call or a text Monday morning. I'm uncomfortable talking

2058
01:47:50,920 --> 01:47:55,960
to the lawyers, and I think that somebody from somebody

2059
01:47:56,000 --> 01:47:58,079
at iHeart got to the person and goes, you can't

2060
01:47:58,159 --> 01:48:02,840
you know? And so I thought, oh my god, I'm

2061
01:48:02,840 --> 01:48:05,640
going to lose every fucking friend I ever had because

2062
01:48:05,640 --> 01:48:08,239
I'm gonna have private investigators and all this shit. I'm

2063
01:48:08,279 --> 01:48:13,159
going to lose everything. I've been accused of something absolutely

2064
01:48:13,479 --> 01:48:17,920
heinous in my opinion. Never I didn't do it. I

2065
01:48:17,960 --> 01:48:20,800
will stand that one person. No, but I will stand

2066
01:48:20,840 --> 01:48:22,600
by the fact. I will stand by the fact that

2067
01:48:22,720 --> 01:48:26,159
I didn't do it right. Did something happen to that person?

2068
01:48:27,279 --> 01:48:31,560
I don't know. I just say I didn't do it. Okay,

2069
01:48:31,920 --> 01:48:36,159
Well I I lost right, And so at that moment

2070
01:48:36,359 --> 01:48:38,199
I withdrew the I said to these guys, I'm not

2071
01:48:38,279 --> 01:48:39,159
going through with the lawsuit.

2072
01:48:39,239 --> 01:48:40,520
Speaker 2: I mean, you could have and it could have been

2073
01:48:40,600 --> 01:48:43,800
drawn out for what a year? Right, who knows?

2074
01:48:44,119 --> 01:48:46,159
Speaker 3: You know? Who knows? I mean? And they were telling

2075
01:48:46,239 --> 01:48:47,760
me like all this stuff. And I met with a

2076
01:48:47,800 --> 01:48:49,399
friend of mine who's a lawyer, and he goes, no

2077
01:48:49,479 --> 01:48:56,279
one ever wins these somebody just text me, oh, Kevin

2078
01:48:56,680 --> 01:49:00,560
drove past someone on the throughway. Who that hit a bear? What?

2079
01:49:01,279 --> 01:49:02,479
I guess? I don't know.

2080
01:49:04,600 --> 01:49:06,920
Speaker 2: He is he still drunk?

2081
01:49:09,560 --> 01:49:14,680
Speaker 3: Uh? So I so all that unfolded, and I decided

2082
01:49:14,720 --> 01:49:17,640
I'll start the podcast. But I never wanted to say

2083
01:49:18,279 --> 01:49:20,840
what it was because it's so horrible to me, Like,

2084
01:49:20,920 --> 01:49:25,560
I think that's just fucking awful. You understand I'm saying.

2085
01:49:25,720 --> 01:49:26,279
Speaker 2: Like I don't.

2086
01:49:26,439 --> 01:49:30,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it and it really really affected me in many, many,

2087
01:49:30,720 --> 01:49:33,319
many many ways. And then for what I was told

2088
01:49:33,479 --> 01:49:36,359
is well that the person said my intention was never

2089
01:49:36,439 --> 01:49:40,319
to get them fired. Well okay, but but I don't know.

2090
01:49:40,560 --> 01:49:42,800
So and and I was like going in my head,

2091
01:49:42,840 --> 01:49:45,439
I'm like we had been places I sat next to

2092
01:49:45,520 --> 01:49:48,600
this person. There was never an uncomfortable moment. I don't

2093
01:49:48,640 --> 01:49:50,840
know what happened. I don't I don't know what happened.

2094
01:49:51,279 --> 01:49:55,880
And so you know, uh, people are like, oh, you

2095
01:49:55,960 --> 01:49:58,600
gotta be happy now, No, I'm not. I'm not happy.

2096
01:49:59,119 --> 01:50:03,520
Voices are the important part of radio. You're taking local

2097
01:50:03,640 --> 01:50:06,279
voices away. I never did anything after this. I didn't

2098
01:50:06,319 --> 01:50:09,600
go revenge. I didn't talk shit. I'm still not talking shit.

2099
01:50:10,279 --> 01:50:13,159
What I just said is not shit talking is that's

2100
01:50:13,279 --> 01:50:17,199
just what happened, right, And I'm but yeah, that's fine,

2101
01:50:17,239 --> 01:50:19,159
But I'm not. I'm not sure. I've never done it.

2102
01:50:19,239 --> 01:50:21,159
And people go, well, why take the high road, because

2103
01:50:21,159 --> 01:50:23,720
because what's the alternative? So I can be bitter and

2104
01:50:23,920 --> 01:50:28,000
angry over something that I couldn't control, know what you

2105
01:50:28,119 --> 01:50:30,399
can control in life and what you can't, and and

2106
01:50:30,680 --> 01:50:33,680
move on. And that's what I did as best as

2107
01:50:33,720 --> 01:50:33,960
I can.

2108
01:50:34,319 --> 01:50:35,840
Speaker 2: And it's worked out.

2109
01:50:36,039 --> 01:50:38,239
Speaker 3: I think it's worked out. But I mean, it hasn't

2110
01:50:38,279 --> 01:50:41,159
been the easiest path and the easiest road, and nothing is.

2111
01:50:41,239 --> 01:50:43,520
And I go, but I'm not. And I gotta tell you,

2112
01:50:43,640 --> 01:50:45,199
I'm not even angry. I'm not.

2113
01:50:45,560 --> 01:50:46,640
Speaker 2: I am I'm not.

2114
01:50:46,920 --> 01:50:49,439
Speaker 3: I just know that it pisses me the fuck off.

2115
01:50:49,560 --> 01:50:52,239
I just think that this whole thing would be different.

2116
01:50:52,279 --> 01:50:54,600
But I've decided to just go a different path. I mean,

2117
01:50:55,239 --> 01:50:57,680
you know, you and I reconnect, Danny and I reconnect,

2118
01:50:57,800 --> 01:51:00,920
I meet Rob Rice, I'm now in a a master's program.

2119
01:51:01,079 --> 01:51:03,960
That's like life unfolded beautifully.

2120
01:51:04,039 --> 01:51:05,640
Speaker 2: But you didn't sit in the corner. You didn't feel

2121
01:51:05,640 --> 01:51:08,720
sorry for yourself. You went and went out and.

2122
01:51:08,880 --> 01:51:12,039
Speaker 3: Just well, I decided to just just go do something

2123
01:51:12,159 --> 01:51:16,520
because to me, again, there was no win in being angry.

2124
01:51:16,920 --> 01:51:19,119
There was no win in being bitter. There was no

2125
01:51:19,239 --> 01:51:24,359
win and hating people. And you know, you also realize

2126
01:51:24,640 --> 01:51:27,039
everybody has lives because people will go, well, do you

2127
01:51:27,159 --> 01:51:29,560
still talk to John? And I'll go I'll never have

2128
01:51:29,680 --> 01:51:31,359
a problem with John. No, I get it. I know

2129
01:51:31,479 --> 01:51:34,520
exactly who John is, and I know exactly who I am.

2130
01:51:35,239 --> 01:51:38,159
And I have said in the beginning, some people are

2131
01:51:38,279 --> 01:51:41,720
risk adverse and some people aren't. I'm not risk adverse.

2132
01:51:42,319 --> 01:51:44,960
John is risk adverse and he didn't want to rock

2133
01:51:45,039 --> 01:51:47,399
the boat in a certain way, and I didn't and

2134
01:51:47,520 --> 01:51:50,439
that's fine. And here's the thing. I think it's an

2135
01:51:50,439 --> 01:51:53,359
overused term, but I respect that. I understand that, but

2136
01:51:53,479 --> 01:51:56,159
I didn't do this thing. But I also just knew

2137
01:51:56,520 --> 01:52:00,279
sometimes you got to know when you're lost. You got

2138
01:52:00,359 --> 01:52:03,479
to know any lost. And I will tell you. I'm

2139
01:52:03,520 --> 01:52:06,600
gonna say this, and this is a fact that when

2140
01:52:06,720 --> 01:52:11,439
I was there, the station's ratings were good, and I

2141
01:52:11,640 --> 01:52:14,000
was bringing in the most amount of money as an endorser.

2142
01:52:14,079 --> 01:52:16,720
I was bringing in more than Brother Weez, more than

2143
01:52:16,800 --> 01:52:20,000
John Detulio, and more than Bob Lonsbury. I was That's

2144
01:52:20,039 --> 01:52:21,680
a fact. You can look at the numbers. Somebody could

2145
01:52:21,680 --> 01:52:26,720
show you the numbers, but that and so I thought

2146
01:52:26,800 --> 01:52:29,239
this was arm was never gonna leave, right, And then

2147
01:52:29,319 --> 01:52:33,640
this happens, and I will just say, like, you know,

2148
01:52:33,880 --> 01:52:37,199
in that time, it's been two years. I think it's

2149
01:52:37,239 --> 01:52:42,039
almost two years exactly since they reformatted the show or

2150
01:52:42,119 --> 01:52:45,119
the station, right, I mean, move personal personalities around it

2151
01:52:45,159 --> 01:52:48,720
and started new shows. It didn't work, because if it did,

2152
01:52:49,520 --> 01:52:53,359
it would still be that's a business decision. Business decisions

2153
01:52:53,359 --> 01:52:56,319
are cold, and that's that's the fact. As for the

2154
01:52:56,439 --> 01:52:59,479
Wiz thing was I think he was so pissed off

2155
01:52:59,840 --> 01:53:04,680
the way everything was handled. And go back to the

2156
01:53:04,760 --> 01:53:07,520
fact that I said, these decisions are made four to

2157
01:53:07,600 --> 01:53:11,239
six months ago. Research is done, all these things behind

2158
01:53:11,239 --> 01:53:13,920
the scenes, but no one on the air has ever

2159
01:53:14,079 --> 01:53:18,319
told you're left in the dark. That's not fair to

2160
01:53:18,439 --> 01:53:21,399
them either. And so I think, and I do believe

2161
01:53:21,520 --> 01:53:24,079
brother Weeds, which is why I wanted to talk about

2162
01:53:24,199 --> 01:53:27,319
him and stuff deserves a bigger sendoff. He can't come

2163
01:53:27,399 --> 01:53:31,199
on this podcast because he's being paid through the end

2164
01:53:31,239 --> 01:53:33,479
of the year, right, that's his contract, it was his deal.

2165
01:53:34,359 --> 01:53:37,840
But he has decided that he's not going back, and

2166
01:53:37,960 --> 01:53:42,000
it's like, because of the way everything went down, He's like,

2167
01:53:42,119 --> 01:53:44,239
fuck it, because it was gonna be music And I

2168
01:53:44,279 --> 01:53:46,239
don't even know what they what they're Oh, I do

2169
01:53:46,399 --> 01:53:49,039
know there was him to do music on the weekends

2170
01:53:49,760 --> 01:53:51,800
and you know, and made it look like it was.

2171
01:53:51,800 --> 01:53:54,760
Speaker 2: Sort of his idea. And again that pissses me off.

2172
01:53:54,840 --> 01:53:57,239
Speaker 3: And what they should have done is at least taken

2173
01:53:57,279 --> 01:53:59,760
the last quarter of the year, brought in all the

2174
01:54:00,039 --> 01:54:03,640
yes they could have brought in and play all the

2175
01:54:03,800 --> 01:54:06,800
old people come back and even have a Tommy reunion

2176
01:54:06,840 --> 01:54:08,880
with him for a few minutes of intercom would allow

2177
01:54:08,960 --> 01:54:13,479
it and whatever, right, and just let things move forward

2178
01:54:13,600 --> 01:54:17,199
in a really really positive way and send Weeze off

2179
01:54:17,520 --> 01:54:19,159
the way he should have been sent off, not just

2180
01:54:19,279 --> 01:54:21,680
not all, because he was so such a part of

2181
01:54:21,960 --> 01:54:24,520
the fabric of this town and the fabric of people's

2182
01:54:24,560 --> 01:54:25,359
lives truly, I.

2183
01:54:25,399 --> 01:54:27,760
Speaker 2: Mean, I mean, and you're right. I mean, you think

2184
01:54:27,800 --> 01:54:29,960
of Rochester, you think of Garbage Blades, you think of

2185
01:54:30,079 --> 01:54:31,800
Jenny Light, and you think of Brother Weiz, you know,

2186
01:54:32,239 --> 01:54:34,079
And that's the way. That's the way it's always been.

2187
01:54:34,159 --> 01:54:36,720
I mean, Brother We's has been on the air since

2188
01:54:36,800 --> 01:54:38,800
I was since I was real young. I listened to

2189
01:54:38,880 --> 01:54:41,279
that show my whole There was no other show I

2190
01:54:41,399 --> 01:54:44,960
never I ever listened to. I mean, when you're a teenager,

2191
01:54:45,039 --> 01:54:46,600
you're not you know, you're supposed to be listening to

2192
01:54:46,640 --> 01:54:48,880
p x Y, you know, and I didn't. I listened.

2193
01:54:49,079 --> 01:54:52,720
I listened to Wise, you know, in in you learn

2194
01:54:52,800 --> 01:54:55,319
a lot. And like we were saying earlier, you learn

2195
01:54:55,439 --> 01:54:57,760
so much when you when you're with some when you're

2196
01:54:57,800 --> 01:54:59,920
with somebody like that, and you don't even sometimes real

2197
01:55:00,399 --> 01:55:04,199
that another thing built it really always I never say,

2198
01:55:04,359 --> 01:55:09,560
right with me, he's the only personality to beat Howard Stern. Yeah, well,

2199
01:55:09,640 --> 01:55:11,680
so what Howard Stern would do when he'd go to

2200
01:55:11,800 --> 01:55:14,520
a market and beat the person, he'd have it, he'd

2201
01:55:14,600 --> 01:55:19,760
have a funeral. Yeah, why didn't they do that? Why

2202
01:55:20,039 --> 01:55:23,640
didn't they make a bigger deal that wee'z knocked Howard

2203
01:55:23,680 --> 01:55:25,039
Stern out of Rochester?

2204
01:55:25,720 --> 01:55:25,840
Speaker 3: Uh?

2205
01:55:27,039 --> 01:55:29,279
Speaker 2: I mean Howard Stern contacted weize.

2206
01:55:29,119 --> 01:55:33,199
Speaker 3: You know, and apologize, but he well he went on.

2207
01:55:33,880 --> 01:55:37,560
I think it made it to one of like PM

2208
01:55:37,640 --> 01:55:40,359
magazine or I don't remember, there were some magazine. They

2209
01:55:40,479 --> 01:55:43,640
used to do those shows, right, tabloid type shows and

2210
01:55:43,760 --> 01:55:48,079
they and they showed Weize saying I have panic attacks

2211
01:55:48,840 --> 01:55:50,720
and I get nervous. And then they were doing a

2212
01:55:50,760 --> 01:55:54,039
Wize versus Stern, and how mean Howard was being deuise.

2213
01:55:54,159 --> 01:55:56,920
This was on a national tabloid show, but.

2214
01:55:57,000 --> 01:55:59,560
Speaker 2: Howard, But Howard did that to everybody Howard.

2215
01:55:59,720 --> 01:56:03,239
Speaker 3: Howard took that and started going panic attacks, panic sang,

2216
01:56:03,239 --> 01:56:05,640
and he called him brother Louise and did all this shit.

2217
01:56:06,279 --> 01:56:10,439
And Weez had interacted with Stern prior because one time

2218
01:56:10,840 --> 01:56:14,399
before Stern was syndicated, Sam Kennison was in the studio

2219
01:56:14,520 --> 01:56:16,520
and goes, I want to call Howard, and so they

2220
01:56:16,600 --> 01:56:19,479
called Howard. And if you ever heard this stage, it's

2221
01:56:19,560 --> 01:56:22,039
how Howard Chalen and we shut up. Don't talk on

2222
01:56:22,119 --> 01:56:24,800
my air. Shut up. Only Sam can talk. No nobody

2223
01:56:24,840 --> 01:56:27,319
else talks on my air. Howard was very protecting. I

2224
01:56:27,399 --> 01:56:31,359
will say this, people go Howard Stern changed, No, he didn't.

2225
01:56:31,760 --> 01:56:36,159
Howard Stern is a radio businessman. He was not the

2226
01:56:36,279 --> 01:56:38,720
rock and roll rebel you thought he was. He just

2227
01:56:38,960 --> 01:56:41,800
talked about shit nobody else would talk about. Well, he

2228
01:56:41,880 --> 01:56:44,920
had small penis, big tits whatever. He and it was

2229
01:56:45,079 --> 01:56:47,520
entertaining and he was funny, and it was a funny show.

2230
01:56:47,520 --> 01:56:48,520
And it was different.

2231
01:56:48,600 --> 01:56:49,119
Speaker 2: And that's why.

2232
01:56:49,600 --> 01:56:53,000
Speaker 3: And he was really the I guess you could say,

2233
01:56:53,000 --> 01:56:55,319
the godfather of this kind of talk radio. I would

2234
01:56:55,359 --> 01:56:57,720
say I miss and stuff, but in this town it

2235
01:56:57,840 --> 01:57:01,560
was certainly Weiz, and Howard couldn't when he came into

2236
01:57:01,600 --> 01:57:04,199
this town. People loved Weez. That was the difference. They

2237
01:57:04,359 --> 01:57:06,640
loved him. Howard made some in road I think there

2238
01:57:06,720 --> 01:57:08,000
was one book where on.

2239
01:57:08,119 --> 01:57:11,279
Speaker 2: One book he beat him by like a point point Yeah.

2240
01:57:11,199 --> 01:57:14,560
Speaker 3: But okay, uh, but you're right he didn't. And and

2241
01:57:14,680 --> 01:57:17,399
then their station signal wasn't great either, and all this stuff,

2242
01:57:17,720 --> 01:57:21,479
and Weez was stood it, I mean lasted and and that's.

2243
01:57:21,319 --> 01:57:23,680
Speaker 2: Something Mark Desildier was created, by the way, Yes, yes,

2244
01:57:23,880 --> 01:57:26,199
because you would go and fight those Yeah, you know,

2245
01:57:27,079 --> 01:57:29,840
I was all about I was out about you know.

2246
01:57:30,520 --> 01:57:32,520
I just didn't like how they brought Howard Stern. And

2247
01:57:32,600 --> 01:57:35,159
I don't heat Howard Stern. I actually like I did

2248
01:57:35,319 --> 01:57:39,279
the time, but actually, well I'll actually watch your listeners there,

2249
01:57:39,319 --> 01:57:41,199
and he's a green interviewer.

2250
01:57:40,840 --> 01:57:43,800
Speaker 3: Great interviewer, great interviewer. And then but people now are

2251
01:57:43,840 --> 01:57:46,039
going like, well, Howard was like he was in bed

2252
01:57:46,119 --> 01:57:49,800
by eight o'clock every night. Yeah, he was extremely disciplined.

2253
01:57:50,319 --> 01:57:53,000
Weez was not right and that was the beauty of

2254
01:57:53,079 --> 01:57:55,399
brother Weez. Yes, he would be up all night, he

2255
01:57:55,439 --> 01:57:58,640
would be out partying, drinking with his buddies. He was

2256
01:57:58,720 --> 01:58:01,880
living a full life. And Howard just was more of

2257
01:58:01,920 --> 01:58:04,560
a businessman. He really was. And that I don't think

2258
01:58:04,600 --> 01:58:07,439
that's ever been really really examined. I don't know. We

2259
01:58:07,520 --> 01:58:09,800
said a lot here, we did. I hope it makes sense.

2260
01:58:09,960 --> 01:58:11,960
Speaker 2: It does make sense. I think it makes sense. I

2261
01:58:12,000 --> 01:58:12,760
think it makes sense.

2262
01:58:12,880 --> 01:58:16,800
Speaker 3: And I'm very nervous as to what well on the

2263
01:58:16,880 --> 01:58:19,319
full next, But well there's nothing that I mean, if.

2264
01:58:19,239 --> 01:58:21,439
Speaker 2: You're nervous, you can, you know you can. You don't

2265
01:58:21,479 --> 01:58:22,359
have to play the whole thing.

2266
01:58:22,600 --> 01:58:25,760
Speaker 3: So oh no, I would play the whole thing. Okay, Yeah,

2267
01:58:25,840 --> 01:58:26,479
don't you think.

2268
01:58:26,680 --> 01:58:28,760
Speaker 2: I think so. I don't think you say anything wrong, now.

2269
01:58:28,760 --> 01:58:30,880
Speaker 3: I don't. I'm not saying anything wrong. I'm just saying

2270
01:58:31,439 --> 01:58:34,640
what happened led to it? And and uh, and I

2271
01:58:34,760 --> 01:58:37,079
think now when you look at it, if I if

2272
01:58:37,159 --> 01:58:40,279
I saw the lineup for the station, they're trying to

2273
01:58:40,960 --> 01:58:44,319
protect people. Do who did have big endorsement money? Right? Right?

2274
01:58:44,439 --> 01:58:47,960
So so John has big endorsement money, yes, behind him? Uh?

2275
01:58:48,399 --> 01:58:50,399
And so they gave him a talk show on the

2276
01:58:50,479 --> 01:58:54,000
sports station, and he'll do afternoons and they can keep

2277
01:58:54,079 --> 01:58:58,479
that revenue there, right, and and they put him.

2278
01:58:58,319 --> 01:59:01,279
Speaker 2: Back where he started. Yeah, you know, I mean he's

2279
01:59:01,880 --> 01:59:03,199
it just it's just what he gets.

2280
01:59:03,720 --> 01:59:05,239
Speaker 3: He gets to do what he loves and what he's great,

2281
01:59:05,560 --> 01:59:09,159
he's good at. And then other people who just they

2282
01:59:09,239 --> 01:59:11,840
didn't have a place for are no longer there, and

2283
01:59:12,439 --> 01:59:14,840
other people are forced into places and maybe they don't

2284
01:59:14,880 --> 01:59:15,159
want to be.

2285
01:59:15,359 --> 01:59:18,880
Speaker 2: I know one, he's my good friend. I love this guy, Dino.

2286
01:59:19,479 --> 01:59:20,439
Do you know hates country?

2287
01:59:21,159 --> 01:59:21,920
Speaker 3: Oh what's he doing?

2288
01:59:22,479 --> 01:59:23,760
Speaker 2: I heard he's in the country seation.

2289
01:59:25,479 --> 01:59:26,159
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

2290
01:59:26,439 --> 01:59:28,880
Speaker 2: Oh man, he used to drill on me about liking country,

2291
01:59:28,880 --> 01:59:32,159
and I know his wife loves country, so he may

2292
01:59:32,439 --> 01:59:34,079
knows probably knows all the music.

2293
01:59:34,159 --> 01:59:36,760
Speaker 3: Maybe that'll be a saving, you know. I mean, the.

2294
01:59:36,800 --> 01:59:39,520
Speaker 2: Guy's a fucking hell of a salesman. I mean he

2295
01:59:39,680 --> 01:59:42,399
did why I brought him over. He pretty much sells

2296
01:59:42,560 --> 01:59:46,279
I mean anything anything. People love the guy. He's a staple.

2297
01:59:47,600 --> 01:59:49,319
But yeah, I heard he's going to the country station.

2298
01:59:51,600 --> 01:59:55,439
Speaker 3: Well, I look, I hope he is. I like a

2299
01:59:55,479 --> 01:59:57,720
lot of those people there, I like all of them.

2300
01:59:57,960 --> 02:00:02,039
I do, and I don't care. It's not my world.

2301
02:00:02,800 --> 02:00:04,720
You know, it doesn't affect me. It doesn't affect me,

2302
02:00:05,640 --> 02:00:08,399
and I just I feel bad for them because those

2303
02:00:08,520 --> 02:00:12,479
kind of changes are difficult to navigate, especially when you

2304
02:00:12,800 --> 02:00:15,760
have no control. And the only advice I can give

2305
02:00:15,800 --> 02:00:18,359
you when you have no control is focus on what

2306
02:00:18,479 --> 02:00:21,920
you can control. You can control how you act in

2307
02:00:21,920 --> 02:00:25,279
the hallways. You can control who you're bitching to and

2308
02:00:25,359 --> 02:00:26,760
who you're not bitching to because there will be a

2309
02:00:26,800 --> 02:00:29,680
lot of bitching. Be careful who you're doing that test UH.

2310
02:00:29,960 --> 02:00:33,640
And you can control uh finding another job if you

2311
02:00:33,720 --> 02:00:37,479
want to, or you know, making decisions that are going

2312
02:00:37,560 --> 02:00:40,199
to be right for you. You have control of all that.

2313
02:00:40,640 --> 02:00:43,239
What you don't have control of right now is what

2314
02:00:43,479 --> 02:00:47,199
they did with the radio station. There are no feelings

2315
02:00:47,239 --> 02:00:50,640
in business. You can't control that, so it don't focus

2316
02:00:50,720 --> 02:00:53,640
on it. This change has been made, is there positive?

2317
02:00:53,760 --> 02:00:55,800
Try to find the good aspects of where you are.

2318
02:00:56,119 --> 02:00:58,760
Focus on those, and if you want to exit, find

2319
02:00:58,800 --> 02:01:00,920
your exit. You know I'm saying, and I don't mean

2320
02:01:00,960 --> 02:01:04,199
that in a negative way. I just I'm saying that's

2321
02:01:04,239 --> 02:01:06,079
the only way you can do it, because otherwise you

2322
02:01:06,199 --> 02:01:08,880
will be in a bitter spiral, and you'll take that

2323
02:01:08,920 --> 02:01:11,039
ship home to your family or to the people you

2324
02:01:11,159 --> 02:01:13,159
care about, and you're going to be a piece of

2325
02:01:13,199 --> 02:01:17,359
shit to them because why because why when you die,

2326
02:01:17,960 --> 02:01:21,840
when it's all over, when Yeah, but you understand what

2327
02:01:21,840 --> 02:01:24,439
I'm saying. And I only know that because I've lived it.

2328
02:01:24,920 --> 02:01:26,960
I lived it. What am I gonna do? Am I

2329
02:01:27,039 --> 02:01:29,359
gonna go be a fucking dickhead?

2330
02:01:29,640 --> 02:01:30,000
Speaker 5: Fuck you?

2331
02:01:30,640 --> 02:01:33,560
Speaker 3: I live that way. I was miserable during that time

2332
02:01:33,600 --> 02:01:36,079
when I did that. It doesn't work, and it doesn't

2333
02:01:36,119 --> 02:01:39,319
help you when it doesn't make paths forward. Find your

2334
02:01:39,399 --> 02:01:42,760
path forward. You can, you can, it'll just be a

2335
02:01:42,840 --> 02:01:46,800
harder mess to go that way. Stay your course. And

2336
02:01:46,920 --> 02:01:48,880
if you and if you're a guy like Dino and

2337
02:01:48,880 --> 02:01:51,960
you're a talented sales guy and a talented on air,

2338
02:01:52,479 --> 02:01:55,319
there's probably something somewhere if you don't like where you are.

2339
02:01:55,760 --> 02:01:58,840
That's all I'm saying. I'm not. I hope everything I'm

2340
02:01:58,840 --> 02:02:00,880
saying is it's neutral as it can be, because I

2341
02:02:01,159 --> 02:02:01,960
think so people.

2342
02:02:02,159 --> 02:02:04,560
Speaker 2: You know, but people will say things and they'll make it.

2343
02:02:05,000 --> 02:02:05,159
Speaker 3: You know.

2344
02:02:06,079 --> 02:02:07,680
Speaker 2: One more thing I want to add before you, I know,

2345
02:02:07,720 --> 02:02:10,479
we gotta get off. Football starts soon.

2346
02:02:10,680 --> 02:02:10,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2347
02:02:12,319 --> 02:02:14,560
Speaker 2: I'm always asked because I worked at p x Y too,

2348
02:02:15,520 --> 02:02:19,520
and I'm always asked, Oh, you must have when when

2349
02:02:19,520 --> 02:02:20,840
you went to p x Y, I must have been

2350
02:02:21,159 --> 02:02:25,039
great working with with Spizzano over Weeze. And I'm gonna

2351
02:02:25,039 --> 02:02:25,479
tell you something.

2352
02:02:25,560 --> 02:02:25,800
Speaker 3: I love.

2353
02:02:26,880 --> 02:02:30,640
Speaker 2: Scott's a friend of mine before this gets out, Scott was.

2354
02:02:30,920 --> 02:02:33,800
I actually found it easier to work with Weez than

2355
02:02:33,840 --> 02:02:37,760
I did Scott. Scott's a perfectionist and he and things

2356
02:02:37,840 --> 02:02:40,520
need to go his his way at all times, and

2357
02:02:41,239 --> 02:02:42,720
that's why he's been that's why he's been on the

2358
02:02:42,800 --> 02:02:45,880
radio for forty years. But Wize was kind of like easier,

2359
02:02:45,920 --> 02:02:47,479
you know, you could kind of like reason with him

2360
02:02:47,520 --> 02:02:51,520
at times and stuff like that. But that was always

2361
02:02:51,600 --> 02:02:53,640
That's always been my That's always been my answer is

2362
02:02:53,680 --> 02:02:56,000
because I actually thought, I mean, I worked with these

2363
02:02:56,000 --> 02:02:57,560
for six years. I stayed at p x Y for

2364
02:02:57,600 --> 02:02:58,000
a summer.

2365
02:02:58,159 --> 02:03:06,560
Speaker 3: So you know, one more we song to wrap it up. Yeah,

2366
02:03:07,000 --> 02:03:09,439
this is one. Remember I remember Eddie from New York.

2367
02:03:09,359 --> 02:03:13,399
Speaker 2: Would come in and say, yeah, Eddie Cano would come in.

2368
02:03:14,720 --> 02:03:17,520
Oh God, Billy would sing ye Billy could sing.

2369
02:03:17,680 --> 02:03:21,199
Speaker 3: Yes, I know I saw Billy at was it We's

2370
02:03:21,239 --> 02:03:23,840
wedding he got up and saying yes, yeah, because.

2371
02:03:23,560 --> 02:03:26,640
Speaker 2: He played he was just isn't a band. Well he

2372
02:03:26,760 --> 02:03:28,319
helped the band out, but he go on and do

2373
02:03:28,399 --> 02:03:34,760
a couple of songs. I just think, great, to my opinion,

2374
02:03:36,279 --> 02:03:39,840
it's done. Yeah, it's done. You know, we're kind of

2375
02:03:39,920 --> 02:03:42,159
putting it to rest. You know, it's a good thing

2376
02:03:42,239 --> 02:03:44,520
that we all get to. We all are already gether,

2377
02:03:44,720 --> 02:03:47,000
you know, kind of keeping keeping it going.

2378
02:03:48,039 --> 02:03:51,520
Speaker 3: But I don't know. I want to say thanks Wise,

2379
02:03:51,600 --> 02:03:55,479
you know, yes, yes, thank you, thank you. Yeah, thank

2380
02:03:55,560 --> 02:03:59,079
you for being welcoming let me be part of your show.

2381
02:03:59,319 --> 02:04:00,720
I'm sure you feel the same way as.

2382
02:04:00,640 --> 02:04:03,079
Speaker 2: You're taking a guy that had no had no radio

2383
02:04:03,199 --> 02:04:04,800
experience and put him on your show.

2384
02:04:04,920 --> 02:04:06,920
Speaker 3: And you know, thanks for When I would put together

2385
02:04:07,000 --> 02:04:09,800
bits I was doing afternoons, I'd be home with my son,

2386
02:04:09,800 --> 02:04:12,920
who's now going to turn twenty five. Jesus, I'd be

2387
02:04:12,960 --> 02:04:15,479
home with him before I took him in to daycare

2388
02:04:15,479 --> 02:04:17,800
because I was going to do afternoons, and I would

2389
02:04:17,840 --> 02:04:19,399
hear things on the WE Show and I would create

2390
02:04:19,439 --> 02:04:21,600
a bit about it. I wouldn't use my own voice,

2391
02:04:21,600 --> 02:04:25,640
I get somebody else. But when when Lucky Nahum made

2392
02:04:25,680 --> 02:04:28,760
a Christmas Sea Day, he came up to play it

2393
02:04:29,039 --> 02:04:32,239
and I put together Crepital Records Present, and I mean

2394
02:04:32,479 --> 02:04:35,079
and all you heard was we All I did was.

2395
02:04:35,119 --> 02:04:36,359
Speaker 2: Cut up sections of the show.

2396
02:04:36,840 --> 02:04:38,800
Speaker 3: Weez came up to me at a party and just

2397
02:04:38,880 --> 02:04:40,520
gave me a big hug and kiss and goes Bro.

2398
02:04:40,760 --> 02:04:43,760
That was the best. And he was always so kind

2399
02:04:43,920 --> 02:04:48,560
to me prior and acknowledged, well.

2400
02:04:48,479 --> 02:04:49,840
Speaker 2: You were kind of his protege.

2401
02:04:50,039 --> 02:04:52,279
Speaker 3: You were is that the right word? Or he was mine?

2402
02:04:52,560 --> 02:04:53,119
Speaker 2: He's your person?

2403
02:04:53,279 --> 02:04:55,680
Speaker 3: Oh no, I was his protege. Yeah, I guess. I

2404
02:04:55,760 --> 02:04:58,800
think he just was always kind to me and welcoming.

2405
02:04:58,960 --> 02:05:02,039
And even even when I produced show, goes Bro, it

2406
02:05:02,199 --> 02:05:04,399
was so mad at you, and then I realized that's

2407
02:05:04,479 --> 02:05:07,920
what you were doing, Bro, And I would always say, yeah,

2408
02:05:08,000 --> 02:05:10,880
it's okay, we're all good. We're all good. Uh so, yeah,

2409
02:05:10,960 --> 02:05:14,720
thank you waves, Yeah, yeah, there you go. Folks. That's it,

2410
02:05:14,920 --> 02:05:16,960
And I would love to hear what other people have

2411
02:05:17,079 --> 02:05:19,760
to say. You can always leave messages and don't be

2412
02:05:19,840 --> 02:05:22,680
a dickhead. Five five two o six eighty eight sixty six.

2413
02:05:23,039 --> 02:05:26,520
You can email Bill Moran at Bill Moran Productions dot com,

2414
02:05:26,920 --> 02:05:32,560
yeah or B Moran Productions dot Yeah, that's it, that's it,

2415
02:05:32,760 --> 02:05:35,159
all right, all right, see you tomorrow.

2416
02:05:35,479 --> 02:05:36,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll be here tomorrow.