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<v Speaker 1>It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBS Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, welcome back everyone. Before we get to my guest,

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<v Speaker 2>who is an opinion writer for the Boston Globe, you

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<v Speaker 2>have been telling you for some time now about the

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<v Speaker 2>new iHeart New and Improved app. All you have to

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<v Speaker 2>do is go to the app store and pull it down,

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<v Speaker 2>put it on whatever device you want to, put it

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<v Speaker 2>on your laptop, your desktop, your tablet, your cell phone

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever, and make us your first preset. And when

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<v Speaker 2>you make us a preset, you will then have the

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity on my page. I'm looking at it right now.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a red circle with a white microphone in the middle,

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<v Speaker 2>and all you have to do is press that and

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<v Speaker 2>you have thirty seconds to leave a message. As a

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<v Speaker 2>matter of fact, we have one that came in. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not sure. I think it was maybe earlier this week.

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<v Speaker 2>We're getting used to the system, so if you have

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<v Speaker 2>left a message, we'll get to it. But this is

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<v Speaker 2>from a listener who we talked with Dan Watkins the

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<v Speaker 2>other night about some of the movement of the Celtics

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<v Speaker 2>that they've made. They've sent a couple of their star

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<v Speaker 2>players off in trades the centerment Perzingis and Drew Holliday

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<v Speaker 2>has been a returned back to Portland. And this is

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<v Speaker 2>the type of message you can leave us. Now, this

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<v Speaker 2>is self. We're a talk show, so we want you

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<v Speaker 2>to call the show and express yourself. But when you

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<v Speaker 2>have a thought, feel free. Rob wants you to play

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<v Speaker 2>this message for the audience.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>Dan's take on the Celtics thing needs to be that

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<v Speaker 4>the purchase of the team the force purchase, just like

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<v Speaker 4>Twitter was force purchased. The force purchase of that team

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<v Speaker 4>basically has been to destroy Boston Pride, Massachusetts Pride, like

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<v Speaker 4>all sorts of diversity and talent that we've had across

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<v Speaker 4>all of our neighborhoods.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know that I necessarily agree with that gentleman,

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<v Speaker 2>but that was his opinion. And that is the purpose

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<v Speaker 2>of the new and improved iHeart app and the red

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<v Speaker 2>with a white red circle with a white microphone, and

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<v Speaker 2>you get thirty seconds and you can say what you want,

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<v Speaker 2>you can play it back, you can make sure it's

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<v Speaker 2>exactly what you want. So I would invite all of

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<v Speaker 2>you to pull down the new and improved iHeart app.

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<v Speaker 2>Just go to whatever app store you are it's all there.

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<v Speaker 2>It's free, it's available for you all sorts of interesting

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<v Speaker 2>items that you that you can.

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<v Speaker 5>Maneuver with, just to explore and have fun. It's as

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<v Speaker 5>simple as that. That is what iHeart is all about. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I am delighted to welcome back to night Side my

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<v Speaker 2>favorite Boston Globe columnist, Koree Hajjar Korean. Welcome back to Nightside.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm good, Thanks for having me on. Glad to be here.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what people need to know is that you grew

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<v Speaker 2>up in Milton, You went to a high school. You

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<v Speaker 2>went to the girls high school in Denham.

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<v Speaker 7>Correct, that's right.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I went to Earth One Ursuline Academy. Okay, Uh,

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<v Speaker 5>and went on to Harvard. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And you have been involved as a journalist, and now

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<v Speaker 2>you are on the opinion page of the Globe, and

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<v Speaker 2>you're one of there's a there's a there's a group

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<v Speaker 2>of people at the Globe who comprise I guess the

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<v Speaker 2>editorial board. And uh, you probably are the youngest member

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<v Speaker 2>of the Boston Globe's editorial board, and as far as

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<v Speaker 2>I'm concerned, probably the smartest too. But that's my own

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<v Speaker 2>personal opinion. I want to put you in trouble with

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<v Speaker 2>your colleagues, and now you will be writing a piece

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<v Speaker 2>every week. Now, this one actually was on the opinion page,

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<v Speaker 2>was not on what I would call the op ed page.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there any significance to its location in today's newspaper?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, first, I gotta say, I learn a lot from

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<v Speaker 6>my colleague. So but I appreciate what you what you're

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<v Speaker 6>saying as a.

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<v Speaker 2>Person, that's just a personal opinion, do you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, Like my my new favorite Red Sox players,

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<v Speaker 2>the rookies who have just come up. So you know

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<v Speaker 2>you're not a rookie, don't get me wrong, But I

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<v Speaker 2>can express my my personal favorites. So the piece today,

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<v Speaker 2>which is on this Democratic Socialist show Ron Mamdani, who

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<v Speaker 2>has just won the Democratic nomination in New York, kind

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<v Speaker 2>of get to the substance of the piece. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>on the it's on what's called the opinion page. But

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<v Speaker 2>I like to think of it as the editorial page

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<v Speaker 2>as opposed to the op ed page.

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<v Speaker 5>Is that a distinction without a difference.

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<v Speaker 6>So the opinion staff is one staff, and the editorial board,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, we all sort of work under that umbrella.

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<v Speaker 6>But you have our off eds that can be written

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<v Speaker 6>by editorial board members like myself, but also people contribute

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<v Speaker 6>all the time. I'm sure you've seen different. You know, politicians, acts,

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<v Speaker 6>leaders contribute to our pages. And then the editorials are

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<v Speaker 6>the majority or are you know? The voice of the

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<v Speaker 6>Boston World editorial board consisting is my colleagues and myself.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I wrote about eighty op edge for the Globe

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<v Speaker 2>when Tom Winship was the editor back in the nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>seventies while I.

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<v Speaker 5>Was in law school. Actually, so bang out.

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<v Speaker 2>I love opinion pieces, and I love your opinion pieces.

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<v Speaker 2>This one is entitled bodenple Baby nepple Baby as class

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<v Speaker 2>Warriors Zohan zoorn Mundani embodies the left's luxury beliefs. I

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<v Speaker 2>loved the article. I thought it was really interesting. First

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<v Speaker 2>of all, what is a nepple baby. I've had to

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<v Speaker 2>look that one up. I know what it is, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's in you. It's in the headline. Explain to us.

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<v Speaker 6>It's the thing basically, you know, child of nepotism, which

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<v Speaker 6>I have to give him credit for. He I recently

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<v Speaker 6>saw a clip and he does acknowledge it. He says,

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<v Speaker 6>quote nepotism and hard work goes a long way, so

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<v Speaker 6>at least he fusses up to it. But it was

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<v Speaker 6>just a ton of tongue in cheeks, sort of fun

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<v Speaker 6>way to drive home the point of the piece.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so this is to me extremely interesting that this

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<v Speaker 2>fellow who I guess as a member of the State Assembly,

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<v Speaker 2>he's a thirty three year old Democratic Socialist. He's sort

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<v Speaker 2>of from the Bernie Sanders wing of the Democratic Party.

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<v Speaker 2>Now Bernie has always been thought of as this anomaly

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<v Speaker 2>within the Democratic Party Vermont a little different than Bernie

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<v Speaker 2>had been the mayor of Burlington from wont and he

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<v Speaker 2>works hard. But this guy at thirty three could be

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<v Speaker 2>the next mayor of New York City. And I suspect

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<v Speaker 2>that there's a lot of people who are even both

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<v Speaker 2>excited about it and a bunch of other people within

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<v Speaker 2>the Democratic Party who are concerned. Let's talk about the piece.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the big message for people who haven't yet read

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<v Speaker 2>the piece but will hopefully find the piece and read

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<v Speaker 2>it sometime tonight or tomorrow. What's the big message?

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<v Speaker 6>Impart in A big message here from this season in particular,

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<v Speaker 6>there's a lot to say about this race, and I'm

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<v Speaker 6>sure we'll get into it. Like you said, it says

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<v Speaker 6>a lot about the Democratic Party. Some people are some

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<v Speaker 6>people are very unhappy, and the reasons are interesting, but

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<v Speaker 6>this piece in particular really argues it just looks into

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<v Speaker 6>sort of the progressive tilt of the Democratic Party that

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<v Speaker 6>we've seen increasing over the last really decade. In this

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<v Speaker 6>idea of luxury beliefs, which are you know, easy to

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<v Speaker 6>these sort of fashionable progressive beliefs that are easy to

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<v Speaker 6>say and sound quite nice, but really come at a

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<v Speaker 6>high cost and often come from, you know, people who

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<v Speaker 6>might not feel the full bunt of it. But the

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<v Speaker 6>term itself was coined by Rob Henderson, who's a Globe

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<v Speaker 6>Opinion contributor and Fantastic Singer fellow at the Manhattan Institute,

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<v Speaker 6>and his definition of luxury beliefs is quote ideas and

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<v Speaker 6>opinions that confer status on the upper class at very

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<v Speaker 6>little cost, while often inflicting costs on the lower classes. Now,

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<v Speaker 6>if you look at Amondani's policies, rent freezes, public owned

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<v Speaker 6>grocery stores, free child care, you know, not really doing

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<v Speaker 6>anything to address the hiring crisis and the NYPD, but

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<v Speaker 6>decreasing number of props. I mean, those are those are

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<v Speaker 6>policies that very well could end up hurting the populations

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<v Speaker 6>that he purports to help. And it was interesting to

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<v Speaker 6>see last night it was higher income people who tended

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<v Speaker 6>to vote for him. Cuomo won the black vote in

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<v Speaker 6>New York. So it's just a really interesting election.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Colmo, of course came former governor of New York,

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<v Speaker 2>baggage himself, so he at this point a flawed candidate.

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<v Speaker 2>Seems to me that he's fighting below his weight or

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<v Speaker 2>punching punching down as a former governor. He's now going

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<v Speaker 2>seems to me that that's an interesting progression. A few

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, many people thought that Andrew Cuomo UH might

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<v Speaker 2>have been the great hope for the Democratic Party as

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<v Speaker 2>a presidential candidate, you know, following in the footsteps of

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<v Speaker 2>Franklin Roosevelt. But such is not the case. And he

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<v Speaker 2>apparently has now said that he is out of the race.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he lost, but he could have at that

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<v Speaker 2>point decided to try to get on the ballot as

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<v Speaker 2>an independent, but Mayor Adams is on the ballot as independent.

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<v Speaker 2>This guy now will have the Democratic nomination, upon which

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<v Speaker 2>seroon and generally there's a four loan fore lawn Republican

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<v Speaker 2>or so who will be on the ballot. But this

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<v Speaker 2>race is really going to come down to Eric Adams

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<v Speaker 2>and literally a socialist who has said some pretty controversial

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<v Speaker 2>things about Israel and was I guess the founder at

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<v Speaker 2>Bowden of Students for Justice in Palestine. So this is

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<v Speaker 2>this is going to be a huge race this November.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that's going to I think tack the Democratic Party.

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<v Speaker 2>Whoever wins, either Adams wins in the party, maybe tax

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit back towards center. This guy wins in

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<v Speaker 2>this party now becomes the party of Elon Omar in

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<v Speaker 2>AOC and the most progressive wing of the Democratic Party.

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<v Speaker 2>Or am I overstating it?

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<v Speaker 7>No? I don't.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think you're overstating it at all. And actually,

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<v Speaker 6>as of an hour ago, it looks like Cuomo hasn't

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<v Speaker 6>dropped out of the race. He can still be on

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<v Speaker 6>the ballot. That does not mean he's going to go forward,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, and necessarily campaign again, but his name might

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<v Speaker 6>still appear on the ballot, and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Believe that's because ma'am mea and Donnie did not receive

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<v Speaker 2>above fifty percent of the vote.

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<v Speaker 6>Correct, I'm not I'm actually not quite sure about that.

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<v Speaker 6>This was sort of a contingency contingency plan from Cuomo.

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<v Speaker 6>Should he not win the primary, his name was still

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<v Speaker 6>going to be on the ballot. But you know, I

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<v Speaker 6>think you asked a really good question about what this

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<v Speaker 6>in a lot of cases, it's actually less about with

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<v Speaker 6>the names that you've lifted aoc momdani on ilhan Omar,

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<v Speaker 6>but especially the first two, it's almost less about the

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<v Speaker 6>policies that they're selling, because I think at the end

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<v Speaker 6>of the day, like the American voter is busy if

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<v Speaker 6>they hear something that sounds appealing and nice, even though

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<v Speaker 6>you know, like a rent freeze in the end can

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<v Speaker 6>turn messy and it can be actually quite bad for

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<v Speaker 6>the economy. But you know, they're saying nice things. But

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<v Speaker 6>more than that, it's the way that they're saying them.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, he ran a great campaign. He was out

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<v Speaker 6>was fantastic. He's a charismatic speaker. He always has a

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, like it was a really well done, organic campaign.

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<v Speaker 6>And when you looked at Cuomo, who sort of, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>like sort of of his own era and time. But

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<v Speaker 6>he in this race, he basically represents all of the

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<v Speaker 6>older Democrats who are trying to hold onto power, who

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<v Speaker 6>and he flopped and that is really significant.

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<v Speaker 6>I think Democrats are taking a really hard look at

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<v Speaker 6>what's happening now. There like competing there are different competing

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<v Speaker 6>sort of socialist policy bubbling up. I think that's going

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<v Speaker 6>to be the policy battle. But the image of old

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<v Speaker 5>Are there no.

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<v Speaker 2>Young Democrats in New York City elected who could have

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<v Speaker 2>taken this guy on. I mean, if he won this race, well,

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<v Speaker 2>let me do this. I got to hold that question

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<v Speaker 2>I'll come back to that question. Where are the rational

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<v Speaker 2>young Democrats in Hajar, Boston Globe opinion columnist, has written

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<v Speaker 2>a piece about the mayoral election of primary election that

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<v Speaker 2>was held in New York on Tuesday and the result.

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<v Speaker 2>If you'd like to join the conversation, especially if you

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<v Speaker 2>lot of listeners in New York six one seven, two, five,

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<v Speaker 2>four ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Dan Ray. This is Nightside, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>delighted to have Korean Hajar for the Boston Globe as

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<v Speaker 1>You're on night Side with Dan Ray on w b Z,

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<v Speaker 2>My guess from the Boston Globe opinion writer. She's also

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<v Speaker 2>remember the Globe editorial board. Kareen, Hajar, Kareen. The question

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<v Speaker 2>that I was asking, obviously, Mandamie's was thirty three. I

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<v Speaker 2>Where are the young Democrats to take on the Democratic Socialists?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if the Democratic party becomes a socialist party,

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to consign themselves to the dust bowl of history.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe maybe they know something I don't know, but

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think socialism. Socialism might work in deep blue

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<v Speaker 2>New York City, but I don't think it works nationally, right.

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<v Speaker 6>And I think that's going to be the challenge here.

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<v Speaker 6>Like you saw a lot of excitement around this from

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<v Speaker 6>national Democrats. I mean, you have big names lining up

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<v Speaker 6>and congratulating Mom Dannie. I believe Bill Clinton congratulated him.

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<v Speaker 6>I believe Chuck Schumer congratulated him. So you know, people

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<v Speaker 6>are paying attention. But I think there's excitement around the

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<v Speaker 6>excitement of this campaign. But like you said, it's not

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<v Speaker 6>scalable to the rest of the country. You're not going

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<v Speaker 6>to get, for example, a presidential candidate Democrat who runs

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<v Speaker 6>on a purely socialist platform who says he doesn't like capitalism,

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<v Speaker 6>like Zi, I mean, that's going to be a really

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<v Speaker 6>hard sell to a general election population, right. But I

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<v Speaker 6>think I think if there is any positive lesson for

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<v Speaker 6>that he campaigned and also the use of all of this.

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<v Speaker 6>I do believe that voters are There was a great

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<v Speaker 6>analysis by the president of the Manhattan Institute and the

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<v Speaker 6>Free Pros Today basically saying it's like you know, it's

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<v Speaker 6>it's voters want something fresh. They want something new from

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<v Speaker 6>democratic party that has you know, become defined by people

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<v Speaker 6>and even if those ideas are like a little zany uh,

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<v Speaker 6>So I think that's for the lesson to take well.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't heard too many establishment establishment Democrats used the

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<v Speaker 2>phrase globalize the as has been reported. Mindani uses this.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's got a problem with with And again

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<v Speaker 2>I realized that New York City is not Tel Aviv,

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<v Speaker 2>and New York City is not a part of Israel,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's a pretty significant Jewish population. When he's got

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<v Speaker 2>a guy running from mayor who has used the phrase

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<v Speaker 2>globalize the Intifada and who himself organized a group called

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<v Speaker 2>Students for Justice in Palestine when he was undergraduate at

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<v Speaker 2>Boten I'm not Jewish, but that would bother me.

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<v Speaker 6>There is a lot of you can just see it

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<v Speaker 6>in a lot of the commentary from the Jewish community.

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<v Speaker 6>People are really nervous about just you know, the phrases

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<v Speaker 6>that he's used, some of the policies that he's voted before,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, previously in the Assembly. So there's nerves about that,

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<v Speaker 6>and that's going to be something that Eric Adams, the incumbent,

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<v Speaker 6>he has sort of positioned himself as a more Israel

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<v Speaker 6>friendly candidate, and I'm sure is going to be spending

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of time courting the very large Jewish community

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<v Speaker 6>in New York.

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<v Speaker 2>And then this he's talked about city run grocery stores.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of countries, socialist countries or communist countries

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<v Speaker 2>that have had you know, government run grocery stores. And

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<v Speaker 2>the prices are really low with those grocery stores, except

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<v Speaker 2>the commodities and the products aren't available. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 2>can get a gallon of milk for a nickel, but

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<v Speaker 5>So what difference does it make.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is I'm being totally serious when I

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<v Speaker 2>say that people that dumb, that they don't understand that

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<v Speaker 2>our system, our economic system, has provided just a plethora

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<v Speaker 2>to a grocery store in North Korea or in many

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<v Speaker 2>of the countries that have tried communism or socialism and failed.

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<v Speaker 2>What how how does this guy got what like thirty

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<v Speaker 2>three thousand votes or something or some I mean he

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, he sure did. I mean he at least based

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<v Speaker 6>on the you know, he won forty three point five

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<v Speaker 6>percent of the vote to Cuomo's thirty six point four percent,

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<v Speaker 6>according to the New York Times. So but but you

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<v Speaker 6>know that, you know, the grocery store point is definitely

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<v Speaker 6>a source spot for me. I mean, my mom's a

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<v Speaker 5>Oh and okay, yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>And this is just sort of the stuff that was

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<v Speaker 6>by the time that it really developed and got and

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<v Speaker 6>got bad. As we've been watching over over a decade,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, it was hard for my grandmother to get

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<v Speaker 6>her my late grandmother to get her insulin. It was

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<v Speaker 6>hard to get It's not just groceries, it's medicine, it's everything,

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, it's a it's so so your family was there

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<v Speaker 2>when shot is swept into power in Venezuela.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, some of my family. My mom has since she's

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<v Speaker 6>an American citizen, but she you know, we have family there,

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<v Speaker 6>and it really, I mean, Venezuela is a remarkable, beautiful

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<v Speaker 6>this terrible ideology.

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<v Speaker 2>Unbelievable. I mean, look at Cuba. I mean they don't

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<v Speaker 2>it's unbelievable. And you're saying it's the wealthy people in

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<v Speaker 2>New York who tended to vote for this guy. Who

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<v Speaker 2>do the wealthy people think this guy is going to

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<v Speaker 2>tax in order to pay for all of these theoretical

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<v Speaker 6>Well, my first comment the after Cuomo sort of conceded

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<v Speaker 6>tax base because that's exactly what it's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 6>Chicago is a warning. You know, so many big businesses

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<v Speaker 6>left Chicago, some go into Miami because they knew it

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<v Speaker 6>was just a business friendlier climate, better for your taxes.

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<v Speaker 6>If you're you know, a high earner, but you're the one,

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<v Speaker 6>you know. New York needs high earners. It has a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of projects that has a big budget, and this

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, let's we'll get some phone calls six one, seven, two, five, four,

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty six one seven, nine, three, one ten thirty

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<v Speaker 2>opinion writer and also member of the Boston Globe editorial Board,

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<v Speaker 2>Korean Hajar. And I am just if this article today

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<v Speaker 2>is in the in the Globe, if you have access

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<v Speaker 2>to it to your Globe, and I hope you do. Uh,

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<v Speaker 5>I read the Herald online.

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<v Speaker 2>I read a lot of the papers online, but I

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<v Speaker 2>get some newsprint on my fingers. Traditions die hard in

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<v Speaker 2>calls and koreem Well comments on this potentially ground shaking

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<v Speaker 2>understand how a Democrat like Chuck Schumer is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to be comfortable with this guy, but we'll

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<v Speaker 2>find out coming back. And by the way, a long

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<v Speaker 2>New York has come a long day, long way from

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<v Speaker 2>the days of John Lindsay and Ed Koch to this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Night Side with Boston's News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>My guest is Boston Globe opinion columnist Korean Hajra. We

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<v Speaker 2>are talking about the the the election, the primary election

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<v Speaker 2>in New York City. You know, it wasn't too many

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<v Speaker 2>primaries ago that AOC upset Congressman Murphy, who was a

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<v Speaker 2>long time serving US congressman. So New York primaries do

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<v Speaker 2>have the element of surprise.

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<v Speaker 7>Korean, they sure do.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I think I think that is an early example

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<v Speaker 6>of just like how a very organic grassroots campaign, no

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<v Speaker 6>matter how nutty the ideas are, can actually, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I mean there are some nutty ideas on the

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<v Speaker 5>Republican side too. I mean, you have.

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<v Speaker 2>You have the extremes in both parties, and those extremes

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<v Speaker 2>help the other party. As far as I'm concerned, that

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<v Speaker 2>you can hold a scene in Georgia without a crazy Republican,

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<v Speaker 2>or you could hold a seat in Colorado, and you

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<v Speaker 2>could hold seats in New York with normal Democrats who.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I just it's amazing. Let's go to the call. It's

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<v Speaker 2>going to go to Steve and Cambridge. Steve, you are

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<v Speaker 2>next to your first this hour a night siut with

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<v Speaker 7>Go right ahead, Steve, good evening. Dan is it Kareem

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<v Speaker 2>C A r I ny if the pronunciation is wrong,

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know. I think you and Dan are making

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<v Speaker 7>a little bit more of this than it really needs

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<v Speaker 7>to be made. When a party loses an election as

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<v Speaker 7>badly as the Democrats lost the last election, it always

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<v Speaker 7>takes time for them to find some footing. So I

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<v Speaker 7>and I think all these predictions of demise of the

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<v Speaker 7>Democratic Party or catastrophe might be a little premature.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not predicting that, Steve.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that Koreen is us either, but but

429
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<v Speaker 2>when you have you know Bertie Sanders can be seen

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<v Speaker 2>as sort of an idiosyncret and out of Vermont because

431
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<v Speaker 2>Vermont is such a small state. But when you have

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<v Speaker 2>someone like this who might be elected mayor of New

433
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<v Speaker 2>York City, I mean, this guy makes de Blasio look

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<v Speaker 2>like some right wing conservative.

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<v Speaker 7>Karine, you Dan, You're probably right, But Karin, did you

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<v Speaker 7>see de Blasio. He was on the television the other

437
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<v Speaker 7>night celebrating the victory of this primary candidate, and basically

438
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<v Speaker 7>all he talked about was how this candidate was now

439
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<v Speaker 7>going to stand up to Donald Trump. He didn't say

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<v Speaker 7>anything really about New York at all.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, that doesn't come as a huge size, but you know,

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<v Speaker 6>I think that sort of touches on a big theme

443
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<v Speaker 6>in this election that we haven't talked as much about

444
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<v Speaker 6>as also just how this is. You know, both parties

445
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<v Speaker 6>are going to use this as fodder against each other.

446
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<v Speaker 6>The duns are going to say, here's somebody who can

447
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<v Speaker 6>stand up to Trump, which, by the way, is just

448
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<v Speaker 6>not the mayor of New York's job. The mayor of

449
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<v Speaker 6>New York job is to deal with the considerable challenges.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, one of the most prominent American, one of

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<v Speaker 6>the most prominent worldwide city dealed with right now. But

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<v Speaker 6>you know, Republicans are already gleefully leaning into, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>the all of the imagery of a socialist leading New York.

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<v Speaker 6>As much as they probably don't like it, there's also

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<v Speaker 6>a little bit of excitement about being able to run

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<v Speaker 6>against it. You can already tell. I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 6>it was Scott Brown that posted a picture today of

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<v Speaker 6>mom Donnie aot next Kristapas, who he's running against her tennant.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, Scott problems with us last night as

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<v Speaker 5>a matter of fair career. So yeah, when.

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<v Speaker 7>You keep saying that his ideas are nutty, I mean

462
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<v Speaker 7>Bernie Sanders. Some people thought that if Bernie Sanders had

463
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<v Speaker 7>run instead of Biden, he might have beaten Trump. I mean,

464
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<v Speaker 7>there are a lot of people who really like Sanders.

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<v Speaker 7>I may not. You may not like Dan may not,

466
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<v Speaker 7>but I don't think I think a lot of his

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<v Speaker 7>ideas resonate with an awful lot of American people.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not so sure that I agree that it's the ideas.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, at the end of the day, campaigns are

470
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<v Speaker 6>first and foremost about getting your image out there and

471
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<v Speaker 6>spreading excitement, and I think that this campaign just did

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<v Speaker 6>a really good job at that. If you, I'm I'd

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<v Speaker 6>be skeptical to think, I mean, maybe it could eat

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<v Speaker 6>by in liberal New York. I wouldn't be surprised, but

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<v Speaker 6>I'd be skeptical to think that a fully a full

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<v Speaker 6>blown socialist could win president of the United States.

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<v Speaker 7>Let me ask you one last question if I may,

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<v Speaker 7>because I know there are other callers waiting, But I

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<v Speaker 7>read your column on the editorial page regarding Trump's bombing

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<v Speaker 7>of Iran. Yes, you wrote a column, and I thought

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<v Speaker 7>you My impression was you thought it was probably a

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<v Speaker 7>good move on his part. I think it was.

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<v Speaker 8>No.

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<v Speaker 7>But okay, my question is I had I had stopped

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<v Speaker 7>reading the Globe for an awfully long time because I

486
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<v Speaker 7>thought it was too biased to the left and anti Trump,

487
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<v Speaker 7>and then I saw your column and I was like,

488
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<v Speaker 7>very surprised that that was in the Globe. Has the

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<v Speaker 7>Globe made an effort, in your opinion to kind of

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<v Speaker 7>have a little bit more of a mixed opinion as

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<v Speaker 7>opposed to a leftist or liberal opinion, Because I was

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<v Speaker 7>again surprised to see your column in the Globe praising Trump.

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<v Speaker 6>I have to say, you know, I'm not always I

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<v Speaker 6>call them like I see him. It's not always positive,

495
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<v Speaker 6>it's not always negative. But at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, speaking just from my experience, I felt completely

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<v Speaker 6>welcome as a conservative writer. And I think if you

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<v Speaker 6>check out our op ed our ideas section, you're going

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<v Speaker 6>to find a lot of heterodox ideas there. It's not

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<v Speaker 6>just liberal ideas.

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<v Speaker 5>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Way, Steve, By the way, just so you know, Karine

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<v Speaker 2>is a Harvard graduate. She grew up in Milton and uh,

504
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<v Speaker 2>very impressive background, to be really honest with you, And

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<v Speaker 2>I think the Globe has has decided to retain her

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<v Speaker 2>her services not because of her political philosophy, but because

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<v Speaker 2>of her intelligence and her skill her skillful writing. And uh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's what any smart newspaper we're doing. Maybe the

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<v Speaker 2>Globe is going to get a little smarter in his

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<v Speaker 2>old age.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, it certainly seems to me that the Globe is

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<v Speaker 7>getting smarter, and I'm very glad to see Karine to

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<v Speaker 7>be part of its staff.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, thanks, thank you, Steve. Appreciation it. Okay, let's

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<v Speaker 2>keep rolling here. Kareen Tom is in West Virginia. Tom,

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<v Speaker 2>You're next on Nightside, Go right ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, damn, A good program. Tonight. Thank you. You know,

518
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<v Speaker 3>I'm overdosed with information that has coming left and right

519
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<v Speaker 3>with what's going on with a twenty four hour news cycle.

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<v Speaker 3>But as far as New York is concerned, I honestly

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<v Speaker 3>hope this guy wins the Socialist because.

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<v Speaker 5>You're not a socialist. People should know. I know you. You're

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<v Speaker 5>not a socialist.

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<v Speaker 2>You're a former union member who believes the Democratic Party

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<v Speaker 2>has strayed very far from its core constituency.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and for the record, Dan, my union affiliation of

527
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<v Speaker 3>the IBW. I went to the Springfield convention as a

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<v Speaker 3>delegate in Mission hill Ward ten Precinct three. I was

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<v Speaker 3>a delegate. Do you know how hard it is to

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<v Speaker 3>get elected for the first time as a delegate in

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<v Speaker 3>the state Democratic Party convention. You've got to have six

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<v Speaker 3>of your friends on a July weekend, Saturday, listen to

533
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<v Speaker 3>three hours of nonsense, all right, to sit there and

534
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<v Speaker 3>vote for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so, but but you have left the Democratic Party

536
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<v Speaker 2>as a lot of Yeah, well again, you've given me

537
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<v Speaker 2>the history before, so I don't want to waste your

538
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<v Speaker 2>time here.

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<v Speaker 9>I just fair.

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<v Speaker 3>Enough, fair enough, no, fair enough. And I was a

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<v Speaker 3>staunch Democrat in the eighties that party of my youth

542
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<v Speaker 3>I'm sixty five now no longer exists. And you know something,

543
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<v Speaker 3>these people that want free everything, you know something, Please

544
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<v Speaker 3>elect somebody like that. Let's see what happens. And unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 3>I hate to cut to the chase, but white people

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<v Speaker 3>in Eastern Europe rejected communism of where everything was free.

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<v Speaker 3>Back then it failed miserably. Talk to someone from Poland,

548
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<v Speaker 3>talk to somebody from Ukraine, Talk to somebody from Russia

549
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<v Speaker 3>that's sixty five, and ask him how was life being

550
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<v Speaker 3>a comrade under the.

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<v Speaker 5>No question things? Things were free, but the things weren't available.

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<v Speaker 2>I could say, I could say to you, hey, I

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<v Speaker 2>have you know I could I can tell you I

554
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<v Speaker 2>can sell you something for two dollars. But if I

555
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<v Speaker 2>don't have a supply to sell you, what, what good

556
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<v Speaker 2>is that? That's the I made that point earlier. You

557
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<v Speaker 2>and I agree on that. I spend time, not a

558
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<v Speaker 2>lot of time, but I spent time in Poland before

559
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<v Speaker 2>the curtain fell, and you couldn't find orange juice. The

560
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<v Speaker 2>only people who had orange juice. I went ten days

561
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<v Speaker 2>over there without orange juice. In my last day there,

562
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<v Speaker 2>I asked one of the apparatchiks who was assigned to

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<v Speaker 2>be Uh. She said, you know, is there anything we

564
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<v Speaker 2>can do for you? And I said, yeah, can I

565
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<v Speaker 2>get some vitamin C it The only thing they had

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<v Speaker 2>over there at breakfast was black carrnge juice, which is undrinkable.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, the points you make are very solid, Tom,

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<v Speaker 2>and I understand your your support of this guy, not philosophically,

569
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<v Speaker 2>but you'd like to see him prove to his his

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<v Speaker 2>contents how in effective his beliefs will be in New

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<v Speaker 2>York City.

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<v Speaker 5>He wants to give away everything.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope he gives away season tickets to the Yankees,

574
00:32:08.440 --> 00:32:10.519
<v Speaker 2>the Mets, the Giants, and the Rangers and the Knicks.

575
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<v Speaker 2>You know they I if he's given away give away everything.

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<v Speaker 3>All I can tell you is that the apparatics of

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<v Speaker 3>the Future are one of the people that work for

578
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<v Speaker 3>National Public Radio. Take care of my friend. And I

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<v Speaker 3>enjoy your column from the Boston Globe.

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<v Speaker 5>I guess the Korean hr Korean.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mean to go off on this, but I

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<v Speaker 2>just I look at this and I think to myself,

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<v Speaker 2>the people, and your column makes it very clear the

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<v Speaker 2>people who are going to be hurt most.

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<v Speaker 5>By this guy's election.

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<v Speaker 2>If it were to come to be, will be people

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<v Speaker 2>at the lower end of the the economic ladder.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, and this is what I mean. I used

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<v Speaker 6>crime for the most part of example throughout the piece

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<v Speaker 6>as this. You know, it doesn't seem like he wants

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<v Speaker 6>to beep up the New York Police Department at all,

592
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<v Speaker 6>but wants to create sort of this I believe, the

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<v Speaker 6>Department of Community Safety or something like that. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>instead of more police on the platforms, you're going to

595
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<v Speaker 6>see more social workers or community outreach liaison things like that. Well,

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<v Speaker 6>the problem is, I mean nothing against expanding mental health

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<v Speaker 6>support for almost New Yorkers. There's really a need for

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<v Speaker 6>more services, and it breaks my heart to see how

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<v Speaker 6>some people are living in the city. But you know,

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<v Speaker 6>sometimes those encounters do turn violent, and I share some

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<v Speaker 6>of my own scarier encounters on the subway just in

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<v Speaker 6>the last year. I mean, I've been genuinely extremely scared

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<v Speaker 6>a couple of times over the past year. And so

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<v Speaker 6>I think this is an This is just like a

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<v Speaker 6>quality of life issue that affects all New Yorkers. But

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<v Speaker 6>you know, higher crime areas of the city, you're usually

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<v Speaker 6>looking at lower income people and this hurts them.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it certainly does.

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<v Speaker 2>Got to take a very quick break, Korean, and we'll

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<v Speaker 2>get to a couple of more callers. And I know

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<v Speaker 2>you have an early day to morrow. I'm so glad

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<v Speaker 2>that we could get you in here at the nine

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<v Speaker 2>o'clock hour. I promise you we'll be done at about

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<v Speaker 2>nine fifty eight. Coming right back on Nightside with Kaarin

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<v Speaker 2>Hajar the Boston Globe. She is an opinion columnist and

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<v Speaker 2>also a member of the Globe's editorial board. And I

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<v Speaker 2>command the Globe for expanding the philosophical viewpoints within their

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<v Speaker 2>editorial board. And I believe that Karin has had some

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<v Speaker 2>influence on different policy issues of the glopist wil pind about.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be back on Nightside right after these messages.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Nightside with Dan Ray on Boston's news Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's get back to the calls here, and

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to go to Robin Rhode Island, Bob and

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<v Speaker 2>Rhode Island. Excuse me, Bob, You're next on Nightside with

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<v Speaker 2>Kareine Hajar of the Boston Globe. And if Bob's not

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<v Speaker 2>if Rob is if Bob is not ready, we'll go

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<v Speaker 2>to Susan in did I know I missed the I missed,

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<v Speaker 2>I missed.

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<v Speaker 5>Go ahead, Bob, that's my fault A right ahead, Bob.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah. First of all, Dan, I don't think you'd ever

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<v Speaker 8>be employed by the Boston Lobe because you're a Trump person,

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<v Speaker 8>a Republican.

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<v Speaker 5>You know what it's like.

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<v Speaker 2>You talk to my guest, Great, if you wanted again inaccuracy,

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<v Speaker 2>you know you're you're somebody. You're amazing to me, Bob,

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<v Speaker 2>because you are always you know, never in doubt, often mistaken.

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<v Speaker 2>But but let's talk to the guests. And because i've

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<v Speaker 2>got another callity.

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<v Speaker 8>Hey, I'm in favor of Bernie Sanders. I'm in favor

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<v Speaker 8>of this guy great from New York in the primary

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<v Speaker 8>that just got won the Democratic primary. Great because the

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<v Speaker 8>moron that's the president.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, okay, again you want to attack Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got plenty of time to attack Trump talking about

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<v Speaker 2>I have a good night, Bob, take it easy.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's go to Susan. Susan, you're going to get extra

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<v Speaker 5>time because Bob was a knuckle in. Go ahead, Susan.

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<v Speaker 8>Can high Koreen.

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<v Speaker 5>Susan is one of my best, my best Cambridge liberal callers. Korean.

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<v Speaker 10>Just so you know, go ahead, Susan, Hey, Susan, and

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<v Speaker 10>waited to see Hey, I kind of waited to see

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<v Speaker 10>if any New Yorkers work would would call in so

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<v Speaker 10>and since they haven't been, really I will.

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<v Speaker 8>I used to I lived in New York.

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<v Speaker 5>You'll fill the void.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, if you once went to a Yankee game, so

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<v Speaker 2>you're qualified, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 9>I did go to Yankee k So anyways, Uh so

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<v Speaker 9>I still go down there. Lot, still have a lot

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<v Speaker 9>of friends there in like teachers, in finance, medical, so

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<v Speaker 9>kind of a wide range. And I kind of pulled

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<v Speaker 9>them before, you know that a couple of days before,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, like who are you voting for? Because I

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<v Speaker 9>was like, God, I don't know who I would vote

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<v Speaker 9>for in this situation, you know, and uh, nobody had

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<v Speaker 9>this guy as their top uh their top person. It's

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<v Speaker 9>a you know, it's a ranked choice. A couple of

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<v Speaker 9>them had them, had them down the ballot.

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<v Speaker 2>And when we're getting tied on time, what what's your

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<v Speaker 2>what's your point? He's established he was a surprise winner.

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<v Speaker 5>Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 9>My point is that people were really upset with the choices.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't think you can you need to know how

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<v Speaker 9>much people in New York City despise Cuomo because of

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<v Speaker 9>what happened between him and de Blasio last time around.

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<v Speaker 9>They think Adams is corrupt. So a lot of them,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, settled on land or who actually he's Jewish,

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<v Speaker 9>but he's also endorsed uh Man Donnie. So but in

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<v Speaker 9>any event, I think I think it's a question of

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<v Speaker 9>of just poor choices. And along that line, why are

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<v Speaker 9>we not discussing that Curtis Leewa yet again ran unopposed

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<v Speaker 9>for Republicans.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, the Republicans are not a real factor in New York, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Curtis Sleewa is is kind of a side show. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't even consider him seriously. Seriously, kareein what would you

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<v Speaker 2>want to respond to what Susan had to say?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I think you're right, Susan. I mean I heard,

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<v Speaker 6>I personally from my friends, heard a lot of frustration

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<v Speaker 6>with the choices as well. And I think that, uh,

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<v Speaker 6>I think that a lot of folks. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 6>saw like a lot of young college educated people vote

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<v Speaker 6>for Mumdanni, a lot of you know, higher he basically

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<v Speaker 6>got a lot of the white vote, a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>the Asian vote, some of the Hispanic vote, but not

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<v Speaker 6>sort of the coalition that you would necessarily expect based

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<v Speaker 6>on the Working Clouds deal of of what he was

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<v Speaker 6>putting forward. But it was just it was difficult decisions.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, you laid out why the three big names

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<v Speaker 6>that are well first Quono and Mumdani, but going into

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<v Speaker 6>this election, Mumdanni and Adams baggage on both sides. So

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<v Speaker 6>it's going to be really interesting to see how this goes.

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<v Speaker 6>And I'm curious that you you know, how your friends

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<v Speaker 6>are going to think about those two choices, right right.

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<v Speaker 2>I suspect Susan's friends are going to probably line up

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<v Speaker 2>behind Mendami if this Susan's friends who was my friend

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<v Speaker 2>as well.

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<v Speaker 9>But I think they're far more less than I actually am.

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<v Speaker 10>Dan So, but.

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<v Speaker 9>Just to remind you that wasn't Uh, wasn't Guliani Republican,

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<v Speaker 9>wasn't uh Bloomberg three terms Republican.

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<v Speaker 2>So they they had a lot of money, Okay, they

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<v Speaker 2>they both had a edition. Giuliani had name recognition as

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<v Speaker 2>a US attorney, right, and Bloomberg had a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 2>And John Lindsay was a Republican. You can go back

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<v Speaker 2>John Lindsay. But the Republican Party in New York is

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<v Speaker 2>a shell of what it once was, and it's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>the choice is not going to be between Adams and Well.

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<v Speaker 9>I think when that happens, that actually has an effect

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<v Speaker 9>on the Democrats as well. You want a good loyal opposition.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'd like two party I'd like I'd like the

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<v Speaker 2>two parties in Massachusetts. Susan and I talk about that

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<v Speaker 2>a lot. You know that. Hey, Susan, I got to run.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so glad that that that that I was able to.

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<v Speaker 2>We should have put Bob in the water, because you

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<v Speaker 2>just God control himself. God control himself. But you are

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<v Speaker 2>always a great caller, and I appreciate it very much.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Susan, very weekend. Good night, uh, and Kareem, thank

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<v Speaker 2>you very much. It's it's going to be a great race.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to be really interesting to watch this country

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<v Speaker 2>swings back and forth and let's see where where it

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<v Speaker 2>ends up. I've been around long enough to have seen

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats Republicans at the national level will go back and forth,

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe New York City is going to go way

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<v Speaker 2>over to the left, and there will be there will

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<v Speaker 2>be some people who will pay the price, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Koreem as always, thank you very much, thank you for

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<v Speaker 2>the work you do with the Globe, and say hi

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<v Speaker 2>to all of my friends the Globe, both of them. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>oh kidding, Thanks Green, have a great night. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>we are done for this hour. Here comes the news

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<v Speaker 2>and we're going to talk about comments that another Democrat, Congressman,

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<v Speaker 2>Jake Archincloss, has made today, which I think are pretty insightful.

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<v Speaker 2>Back on night Side after this