Speaker 1: There are so many great Billy Joel songs to choose from.
Speaker 2: I don't know why we have to do.
Speaker 1: You know the Horatio Sans cover band, We strictly do
Speaker 1: Eighties Joel music, Sir, is this com Roddie's selection is out?
Speaker 2: This say is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this was a request. This was a request I
Speaker 3: heard from you when I played a Billy Joel song
Speaker 3: that it wasn't the right one. So we'll have to
Speaker 3: defer to you on which Billy Joel wants to get.
Speaker 2: To old school? Okay school.
Speaker 1: That's why the Horatio Sans cover band and step Brothers
Speaker 1: was so funny, because he was mocking the fact that
Speaker 1: Billy Joel started making really bad music later on Ah, okay,
Speaker 1: Chris com Ronnie, we strictly do eighties?
Speaker 2: Is this?
Speaker 1: Are you mocking Billy Joel with this election? Or do
Speaker 1: you genuinely like that song?
Speaker 4: You know? The answers mance and I'm going to fact
Speaker 4: check you single by Billy Joel from the album Glass
Speaker 4: Houses You May Be Right, released March seventh, nineteen eighty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there it is there it is. Yeah. Yeah, strictly
Speaker 2: do eighties, eighties to old music.
Speaker 1: That's why I love that scene in Step Brothers, Siratio
Speaker 1: Sands underrated?
Speaker 2: Is that fair to say?
Speaker 4: In the in the pantheon of the Will Ferrell era
Speaker 4: of SNL, I'd say Horatio Sands was a necessary role player.
Speaker 4: It's not the most elite era of SNL in my opinion,
Speaker 4: but it's a close second. Horatio has some very very
Speaker 4: good cameos and movies over the years, and was a
Speaker 4: good role player on SNL back in the day. So
Speaker 4: I agree with you there too.
Speaker 2: Horatio Sans has ned grabovoy? Does that work?
Speaker 4: Just how I'm starting? Okay, I say no, but I
Speaker 4: like where your head's at. I don't know if he
Speaker 4: could be a shuttler and Jason's four two four four
Speaker 4: two diamond. I don't know if Horatio has the pipes
Speaker 4: to be able to handle that type of energy in
Speaker 4: a game.
Speaker 1: No, I'm quite sure he couldn't literally play midfield.
Speaker 2: I I'd like to see that though.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be great.
Speaker 2: Watch my goodness. Where to start today?
Speaker 1: Well, the Black Desert Championship is rolling to Black Desert
Speaker 1: Resort PGA Tour, returning to Utah for the first time
Speaker 1: in sixty years.
Speaker 2: Ck, who do you like?
Speaker 4: Uh? Bruce Summer Hayes.
Speaker 1: All right, well, at least you knew the name of
Speaker 1: a golfer. I didn't think you'd even know a name.
Speaker 1: All right, Chris, you would you like to take a
Speaker 1: victory lap? You kind of told us on Friday exactly
Speaker 1: what to expect on Saturday night.
Speaker 4: I don't want to take a victory lap. I just
Speaker 4: think that if you are somebody who understands how college
Speaker 4: football works, you're going to have a true freshman playing
Speaker 4: and starting a quarterback. Odds are he's going to have
Speaker 4: a rough game or two or three if he starts
Speaker 4: an entire season. And Zach or sorry, Isaac, wasn't, you know,
Speaker 4: blowing the doors off anybody the first few weeks. But
Speaker 4: Arizona was not the get right game for Utah. It
Speaker 4: turns out it was vice versa and they just outplayed
Speaker 4: them from the jump. And the game's not all on Isaac.
Speaker 4: It's not even close to that. I think you could
Speaker 4: make an argument that Utah's defense was extremely porous. They
Speaker 4: got blown off the ball. They think they gave up
Speaker 4: like seven yards per carry against a team that likes
Speaker 4: to throw it. And yeah, questions abound regarding this team,
Speaker 4: even though they're four and one, and their ranked eighteenth
Speaker 4: in the country. We do not know who this team is,
Speaker 4: and we may not know for a while.
Speaker 2: No, we don't.
Speaker 1: I started the show off with that little lesson learned
Speaker 1: from the month of September. Now that we've turned our
Speaker 1: calendars to October, you know what struck me, Chris and
Speaker 1: I was there. I brought my son and it was
Speaker 1: fun to be there in the stadium with him. He's
Speaker 1: living back east now, so there's a little nostalgia. But
Speaker 1: watching k State just dump truck Arizona physically just gave
Speaker 1: me tremendous confidence of Utah be able to do the same.
Speaker 2: And Kyle talked about this yesterday.
Speaker 1: Coach what essentially said, we lost in the trenches, which
Speaker 1: Utah rarely does, and if they do, it's not to
Speaker 1: a team like that.
Speaker 2: What do you attribute that to.
Speaker 4: I'm going to go out on a limb and piss
Speaker 4: people off and say that Utah is basically back in
Speaker 4: the pac twelve man. You are in a conference now
Speaker 4: where anybody can be anybody on any given day. Nobody's
Speaker 4: very good. There are good teams, but no great teams.
Speaker 4: And I think we have to ditch the notion that
Speaker 4: you know, Utah's physical presence is going to show up
Speaker 4: every single week, the same way people presume that Arizona's
Speaker 4: offense was going to show up every week. It did
Speaker 4: in that case State, but it did against Utah. Utah
Speaker 4: finds itself back in the Pac twelve, man, that's all.
Speaker 4: It is. Like you talk about like six to seven
Speaker 4: teams that can win the conference near the midway point
Speaker 4: of the season. That sounds like the Pac twelve to me.
Speaker 4: So what do I attribute Utah getting manhandled to. I
Speaker 4: don't know if they had too much juice going into
Speaker 4: this game, if they were too pissed off about last
Speaker 4: last year's lost in Tucson. Seem like from the start
Speaker 4: Arizona And it's a very big cliche on my part,
Speaker 4: and my whole job is to avoid cliches. But if
Speaker 4: you like, Arizona wanted it more and they were better prepared,
Speaker 4: and when you have those two things, you're generally gonna
Speaker 4: win games. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, I was somewhat taken back at
Speaker 1: the environment in the atmosphere, and this has been misconstrued
Speaker 1: as me taking shots at fans. I'm not, because the
Speaker 1: fans will follow the lead of the football, and if
Speaker 1: the football is really good, the fans typically follow suit.
Speaker 1: It's hard to just get excited when there's not a
Speaker 1: lot to get excited about. I mean, the moment of
Speaker 1: loudness was a moment of just some noise, which you
Speaker 1: don't really ever hear. I don't know that I can
Speaker 1: recall a night as odd as that. When it came
Speaker 1: to the lack of energy in the stadium.
Speaker 4: Well, I wasn't there. But Utah has a history of
Speaker 4: land some eggs in some conceived you know, big time games.
Speaker 4: You know, I know, I'll bring up the game that
Speaker 4: shall not be named, but the TCU game back in
Speaker 4: two thousand and nine or ten is the one that
Speaker 4: fans still try to forget, and we'll always try to forget.
Speaker 4: But there are some stinkers over the years. Man, it happens.
Speaker 4: I get it. But like hindsight is twenty twenty, I
Speaker 4: understand that Kyle is always going to want to go
Speaker 4: for the juggular. I guess, and in retrospect, does it
Speaker 4: make sense to give your true freshman quarterback six points
Speaker 4: on the board immediately and some breathing room and some
Speaker 4: comfort as opposed to back to back red zone trips
Speaker 4: that ended nothing. I know, you know, story as old
Speaker 4: at time, Fans frustrated with Andy Ludwig and his play calling.
Speaker 4: They were mad at Andy when they called it when
Speaker 4: he called it perfect season Spence, So I'll just we'll
Speaker 4: just let that sink in for a second. But I
Speaker 4: get it. Fans are frustrated. They they I think they
Speaker 4: drank the koolid that Utah was going to come into
Speaker 4: the Big twelve and run riot. I didn't because I
Speaker 4: just don't think this team is as good as everybody
Speaker 4: thought it could be. And when you don't have your
Speaker 4: most important offensive player, yeah, that's going to show its head.
Speaker 4: It's going to show its head every once in a while,
Speaker 4: and it did against Arizona.
Speaker 1: Can this team be as good as everybody thought that
Speaker 1: there were going to be? Or is this just another
Speaker 1: lesson learned that maybe we should pump the brakes on
Speaker 1: these audacious expectations every single year.
Speaker 4: I think we should pump the brakes. I think we
Speaker 4: should pump the brakes. I understand that Utah deserves to
Speaker 4: be in the conversation, but until they do it, you know,
Speaker 4: Unfortunately for Utah, they won a Pack twelve title in
Speaker 4: years where the playoff was four teams and not twelve.
Speaker 4: That's an unfortunate reality for them. But if you really
Speaker 4: paid attention to Utah's roster, you knew that there were
Speaker 4: some pretty glaring flaws. I mean, like we're talking about
Speaker 4: the health of Cam Rising. We talked about it before
Speaker 4: the season. If Cam gets hurt, can his backup step
Speaker 4: in and you know, keep the ship moving forward. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, Isaac's done well, but he's still a true
Speaker 4: freshman and he's not like this team isn't good enough.
Speaker 4: Spence that like, even though a true freshman is going
Speaker 4: to come in, they're still going to manhandle other teams
Speaker 4: because the rest of the roster is so stacked. That's
Speaker 4: not the case. It's just not And you talk about
Speaker 4: losing some key players to injuries. We talked about Cam,
Speaker 4: but like you're missing guys like Connor O'Toole, You're missing
Speaker 4: Karene Reid, You're missing Kennon Johnson, guys who were starters
Speaker 4: to coming out of training camp. And I just don't
Speaker 4: think this roster is to the point where some fans
Speaker 4: and some local media members think it's, you know, on
Speaker 4: par with the Georgia's and the Alabama's and ne Ohio States.
Speaker 4: It's just not all you have to do is when
Speaker 4: you're conference and you're in I get that. It's it's
Speaker 4: a new reality, and it's a great reality for Utah
Speaker 4: and other folks in the Big Twelve. But the truth
Speaker 4: is is this team still has some areas that it
Speaker 4: needs to sorely improve upon. And it's not a bad thing.
Speaker 4: It's just a reality. Again, we have to exist in reality.
Speaker 4: And the reality is is Utah is not Georgia, Bama
Speaker 4: or Ohio State or whomever you They're not and they
Speaker 4: may never be. And that's okay. But I would caution people,
Speaker 4: as I have again and again, to just not necessarily
Speaker 4: lean in too far and let the games play out.
Speaker 4: And so far four and one, Cam's missed basically three games,
Speaker 4: and your ranked number eighteenth in the country and you
Speaker 4: have everything to still play for. But this is a
Speaker 4: long season, and as evidenced by the Big Twelve season
Speaker 4: so far, anybody can beat anybody, which is kind of
Speaker 4: like the existence that Utah had the previous eleven years.
Speaker 1: So let's stay in this space for a minute, because
Speaker 1: I talk about this with college football every year. College football,
Speaker 1: unlike the NFL has this brand bias where certain teams
Speaker 1: just get the benefit of the doubt regardless of who
Speaker 1: they're bringing back. And the two examples I always point
Speaker 1: to are Notre Dame in USC, and certainly Notre Dame
Speaker 1: and USC have earned the benefit of the doubt based
Speaker 1: off their historical pedigree, but in the modern day and
Speaker 1: age of college football, it oftentimes seems like everyone assumes
Speaker 1: those two are awesome, and more often than not, they're
Speaker 1: They're just not.
Speaker 2: Sometimes they're really good.
Speaker 1: It's been a long long time since USC was back
Speaker 1: at the top, when Pete Carroll was there and started
Speaker 1: off really really good. This year they go to the
Speaker 1: big House to get smoked. Notre Dame has been fine.
Speaker 1: But you know, in the NFL, you analyze the team
Speaker 1: based off the personnel. You don't just assume that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are gonna be good because they're the biggest brand
Speaker 1: in the NFL. So how much, uh, how much benefit
Speaker 1: of the doubt has Kyle earned? How much benefit of
Speaker 1: the doubt has Utah earned? Because Bama's earned it, George
Speaker 1: has earned it, looks like Texas has earned it, but Utah,
Speaker 1: to your point, isn't those guys and watching Georgia Bama
Speaker 1: last week, I'm like, yeah, this is the gap between
Speaker 1: those schools and.
Speaker 2: You taught everybody else. It just is what it is
Speaker 2: to your point.
Speaker 1: But as far as the benefit of the doubt brand,
Speaker 1: what is Utah football in that conversation.
Speaker 4: Oh, it's near the top and it probably should be.
Speaker 4: But everybody's gonna come probably gonna be mad at me
Speaker 4: saying I'm a hater or whatever. It's like the year's
Speaker 4: Utah won the Pack twelve spence, they were nine to
Speaker 4: three in the regular season, Like that's just the reality.
Speaker 4: It's they weren't eleven and one. They weren't twelve to zero. Like,
Speaker 4: Utah has been good and it's okay to like say
Speaker 4: that they won the games necessary to get them to
Speaker 4: two Pack twelve titles and two Rose Bulls, as they
Speaker 4: have in the last few years. But we cannot operate
Speaker 4: in the same realm that the roster is as deep
Speaker 4: as the current cream of the crop. It's just not.
Speaker 4: And I would hope to think that some Utah fans
Speaker 4: agree with me, and who knows. Man, Like, I'm not
Speaker 4: saying that that would potentially negate a you know, hell
Speaker 4: of a playoff game. Against Utah and Texas or whomever
Speaker 4: if they get in. Because when a one off, anything
Speaker 4: can happen. We've seen it with Utah twice over the
Speaker 4: years in bowl games or whatever. Like everybody's going to
Speaker 4: point to the Alabama game and you know that was awesome.
Speaker 4: It's a seminal moment in the program's history. But truth
Speaker 4: is is talent usually wins out. I want you to
Speaker 4: have this is a tangent. I want you to have
Speaker 4: my former colleague Ari Wasserman on your show. He now
Speaker 4: works for on three. He's one of the few smart
Speaker 4: football guys that likes me, and I don't know why.
Speaker 4: He's a great person, a great friend, but his whole thing,
Speaker 4: his his stick has been like college football as a
Speaker 4: whole will be diluted because of the twelve team playoff,
Speaker 4: because you're going to be letting in quote unquote not
Speaker 4: great teams to play for national titles now that the
Speaker 4: college playoff has expanded. I don't agree with him, but
Speaker 4: I think there's a case to be made. When you
Speaker 4: look at the landscape of college football, you're going to
Speaker 4: have a lot of nine and three. I don't know
Speaker 4: if there's going to be eight and four teams that
Speaker 4: are going to be vying for a national title. So
Speaker 4: this is long, rambling, tangential way of saying, it's okay
Speaker 4: to live in one world where Utah is the team
Speaker 4: that gets the benefit of the doubt because of its
Speaker 4: like prowess on a year to year basis, they're always
Speaker 4: going to be good. They're always going to have a
Speaker 4: shot in every single game, and that means you've built
Speaker 4: a good program. So Kyle has built carte blanche in
Speaker 4: a sense locally and nationally, but it's not going to
Speaker 4: automatically catapult you to national title contention. If that makes sense.
Speaker 1: It does, and you know, it's interesting. Josh Pate, who
Speaker 1: I really like, jumps on the show. He's kind of
Speaker 1: this rising college football media star's he agrees with Washerman.
Speaker 2: It's the same take that he has.
Speaker 1: I wonder though, if we play the tape forward, because ultimately,
Speaker 1: in order for and we'll just use the you know,
Speaker 1: the teams we're talking about now, in order for the
Speaker 1: Utahs and the BYUS and the Case States or whatever,
Speaker 1: you know, the Big twelve, I would say the ACC
Speaker 1: But Clemson's won national championships.
Speaker 2: Florida State's not good this year.
Speaker 1: But you know, in order for Utah, we'll just use
Speaker 1: this the example we're already talking about. In order for
Speaker 1: Utah to bridge the gap between who they are now
Speaker 1: and who Alabama is and who Georgia is and who
Speaker 1: Texas is or Oregon or whatever, it's going to have
Speaker 1: to be a pro model where there's a salary cap
Speaker 1: and collectively bargained agreements between teams and players in order
Speaker 1: to kind of bridge that gap a little bit. There
Speaker 1: is there space in your mind? Is there an area
Speaker 1: of existence where if the super team super league team
Speaker 1: conference happens that just essentially looks like pro football with
Speaker 1: two conferences and Utah gets the invite. Do you think
Speaker 1: there's a way that a program could be built in
Speaker 1: Salt Lake that does look and feel like the programs
Speaker 1: down South? Or is it just kind of like what
Speaker 1: the World Cup is in soccer, and that is the
Speaker 1: US might be good and sneaky and gritty and get
Speaker 1: out of group, but they're never beating France or whatever.
Speaker 4: I think that's a good analogy I would point to
Speaker 4: in the current model, not this future theoretical super league.
Speaker 4: I think the current model is a lot of things
Speaker 4: have to go right and you would probably use TCU
Speaker 4: from a couple of years as the kind of the
Speaker 4: one team that busted the mold so to speak, and
Speaker 4: got to, you know, a college football playoff title game
Speaker 4: and got their doors blown off by Georgia. For Utah
Speaker 4: to contend and be one of those teams in a
Speaker 4: future theoretical super league, it will require a whole ton
Speaker 4: of money, a ton of you know, investment in still
Speaker 4: what Utah does best, which is player development. I don't
Speaker 4: think that will ever leave. But in this theoretical scenario,
Speaker 4: as always, you'll have to have in my opinion, a
Speaker 4: potential top ten quarterback in the country. You'll still have
Speaker 4: to have a very good defense, and you will have
Speaker 4: to have the types of skill players that can break
Speaker 4: a defense's back. And I'm not saying that Utah needs
Speaker 4: to recruit that seventeen year old kid at Alabama who
Speaker 4: is doing ballet moves in real time against Georgia, but
Speaker 4: those are going to be the types of grist that
Speaker 4: you need to compete for a national title in the future.
Speaker 4: And those guys are few and far between, and odds
Speaker 4: are they're going to end up going to the powers
Speaker 4: that be. And that's just the way it's going to
Speaker 4: go all right.
Speaker 1: Moving over to the topic dajore the soup dajour sounds lovely,
Speaker 1: I'll have that. Of course, everybody wants to talk about
Speaker 1: camera rising.
Speaker 2: Everybody wants to talk about the quarterback position.
Speaker 1: And it's the one question I get more than anything else,
Speaker 1: whether it's friends, family, or people on social just sending
Speaker 1: me direct messages.
Speaker 2: And I wanted to.
Speaker 1: Get your because I have sent people to the piece
Speaker 1: that you wrote and released on September the nineteenth, when
Speaker 1: you've had access to Cam and his family. So the
Speaker 1: one thing that I feel confident saying without any information
Speaker 1: because we don't get anything, as everybody knows, is that
Speaker 1: he's not healthy and sandbagging.
Speaker 2: He's not saving himself for the NFL.
Speaker 1: He's it feels like if you want, you know, when
Speaker 1: he's ready, he will play. He just is hurt and
Speaker 1: he certainly wants to play as bad as anybody. But
Speaker 1: you had the opportunity to talk to him about this
Speaker 1: very thing. I know we've discussed it, but there is
Speaker 1: this portion of our community that for whatever reason, has
Speaker 1: leaned into some tinfoil hat conspiracy that Cam could actually
Speaker 1: play and he just isn't That's the one thing Chris
Speaker 1: I feel confident in saying is not happening.
Speaker 2: Give me your thoughts.
Speaker 4: Well, I will point to you know, reality is whatever
Speaker 4: you see on social media. But I did see earlier
Speaker 4: today that there were photos of Cam being circulated at
Speaker 4: a like shan autograph event, and he has two braces
Speaker 4: on those two fingers on his right hand, meaning if
Speaker 4: you can sift through the bs, wasn't necessarily worried about
Speaker 4: laceration or whatever. Like, clearly those fingers either suffered severe
Speaker 4: sprains or dislocations or whatever. You're not wearing. You're not
Speaker 4: wearing individual stints on fingers three weeks after. If it's
Speaker 4: just a cut, you're just not I know I'm not
Speaker 4: a doctor, but let's just operate in the realm of reality.
Speaker 4: So the realm of reality is Cam is hurt. I
Speaker 4: don't understand why or how a very frustrated, pent up
Speaker 4: portion of the Utah fan base is now staring at
Speaker 4: the Kim Trails shaking their fists. But I think that
Speaker 4: is unfortunately the world we live in now. It does
Speaker 4: not make any sort of sense for Cam to not
Speaker 4: play because he is somebody who has NFL aspirations Dane Brugler,
Speaker 4: who is our NFL draft grew at the Athletic. When
Speaker 4: I wrote that camp story, he said, like, Cam has
Speaker 4: a chance to be drafted if he stays healthy and
Speaker 4: has a great year statistically. Obviously that was right before
Speaker 4: he hurt his hand. But it's like Cam understands that
Speaker 4: he has to play in order to impress NFL scouts
Speaker 4: in front offices. So for folks who were out there
Speaker 4: thinking that Cam is just sitting idly by and just
Speaker 4: kind of enjoying this, I don't really know what to
Speaker 4: tell you. I guess it's convenient for people to find
Speaker 4: a lane of futility and just drive in it for
Speaker 4: as long as they can because they're frustrated. But maybe
Speaker 4: it's a byproduct again Spence of these people believing that
Speaker 4: Utah was going to win a national championship this year,
Speaker 4: I don't know, Like maybe in their heart of hearts,
Speaker 4: they thought that Cam was going to lead them to
Speaker 4: the Promised Land and it's so good for them. But again,
Speaker 4: like I said last week, you can't be that of
Speaker 4: a football player for getting hurt. That is the whole
Speaker 4: point of the game is to like physically hit somebody
Speaker 4: else as hard as you can, and it is so
Speaker 4: unfortunate for Cam and this fan base that he's been
Speaker 4: hurt in back to back years. But yeah, I also
Speaker 4: don't want to give too much credence to the folks
Speaker 4: who are living on the outer margins because I don't
Speaker 4: think that is like the overwhelming popular opinion. But still,
Speaker 4: at the same time, it is very odd and very
Speaker 4: troubling that people are convinced of this. As you mentioned
Speaker 4: Tim Foyle Hat scenario fair point.
Speaker 1: I do think it's fair if people are over the charade.
Speaker 1: I do think it's fair if people are over game
Speaker 1: time decision week to week. Oh, he's out there warming up,
Speaker 1: he goes out as a captain and sees the coin
Speaker 1: flip and then boom, it's Isaac.
Speaker 2: I think it's fair if people are over that.
Speaker 1: And I think it's fair if people are frustrated with
Speaker 1: the direction the program has taken with the information surrounding Cameron.
Speaker 2: I think that's fair.
Speaker 4: I I agree, But at the same time, we're talking
Speaker 4: about an injury that is theoretically something that can be
Speaker 4: measured in real time. It is not Cam's knee that
Speaker 4: was ripped to shreds last year. He has to get
Speaker 4: out there and see how he's feeling. What if Cam
Speaker 4: went out there Spence and couldn't put zip on the
Speaker 4: ball and through five picks against Arizona. I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 4: if that happened, how are we going to view that
Speaker 4: potential scenario? Then fans would be even more mad. Cam
Speaker 4: shouldn't have been playing. He wasn't ready. Why do you
Speaker 4: put himself out there? I understand the frustration, but like
Speaker 4: while last year was a will he won't he from
Speaker 4: like a practice point of view up until about this
Speaker 4: point last year, this is very much like potential in
Speaker 4: real time. Let's see how he looks. You don't want
Speaker 4: to put a quarterback out there that can throw it
Speaker 4: as fast as me. You don't, You don't. It makes
Speaker 4: no sense to do that. So if and if Cam's
Speaker 4: somebody who says he's not ready, it makes sense for
Speaker 4: a guy who has led you to two PAC twelve titles.
Speaker 4: You got to listen to that guy because he's not
Speaker 4: going to like put himself above the team. That's not
Speaker 4: who he is. So I again, I don't understand this
Speaker 4: line of thinking where like Cam is hurt and he's
Speaker 4: going to be hurt until he comes back in place
Speaker 4: like I don't I don't want to sound like a parent,
Speaker 4: but you kind of got to suck it up and
Speaker 4: deal with it. Fans, that's just the reality.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's hard to argue with that all right.
Speaker 1: Away from Utah over to the potential biggest, if not,
Speaker 1: if not the biggest one of the top three or
Speaker 1: four biggest surprises in college football. I don't think it's
Speaker 1: a surprise to Kalanie. I don't think it's a surprise
Speaker 1: to Jay Hill. BYU finds themselves five and zero and
Speaker 1: atop the table. Well, sorry, football fans, A top the
Speaker 1: standings in the Big twelve, as they've won a couple
Speaker 1: of conference games and they've stayed clean.
Speaker 2: How real is this start? What are you ready to
Speaker 2: say on this Wednesday about by U?
Speaker 4: Don't know if I can declare them legit yet. I
Speaker 4: think I want to see them get through the month
Speaker 4: of October, even before the Utah game. I think Arizona
Speaker 4: will present a very stiff test for this team. I'm
Speaker 4: telling you, man, Noah Fafita, what a player. I mean,
Speaker 4: we talk about, you know, the whole stereotypes of you
Speaker 4: need tall quarterbacks and you need these measurements or whatever
Speaker 4: like that kid can really play and he is a
Speaker 4: hell of a players. So I think BYU will have
Speaker 4: their handsful when Arizona comes to town next week. I
Speaker 4: want to see them, you know, see how they play
Speaker 4: against Arizona, Okay State, and you know, a trip to UCF,
Speaker 4: because while UCF did get beat by Colorado, there's still
Speaker 4: a very different team compared to most teams that you
Speaker 4: know BYU and Utah will play this year in that
Speaker 4: like they want to run the ball fifty times a game,
Speaker 4: and you never know how games like that will pan out.
Speaker 4: So you know, kudos to Kilani and Aaron and Jay
Speaker 4: and those players. They basically told everyone to go fly
Speaker 4: a kite. You know, I think they were picked thirteenth
Speaker 4: or fourteenth to start the season. Nobody really envisioned them
Speaker 4: being five to zero entering the month of October. But again,
Speaker 4: it's like in any sport all it all depends on
Speaker 4: when you get hot. You don't want to get too
Speaker 4: hot in September and October and fizzle out come November December.
Speaker 4: If they can maintain this and be in contention come
Speaker 4: you know, Thanksgiving time, good on them, But we got
Speaker 4: to see them prove it in the next coming weeks.
Speaker 2: All right, So both teams have played five games.
Speaker 1: BYU has Arizona at home, okay, stay at home, UCF
Speaker 1: on the road Utah before they see BYU is Arizona
Speaker 1: State on the road, TCU at home, then Houston on
Speaker 1: the road. Are we potentially going to see an eight
Speaker 1: and and oh BYU team against a seven and one
Speaker 1: Utah team on November the ninth in Salt Lake?
Speaker 2: And if so, what will that look and feel like? Hoof?
Speaker 4: I don't think we're ready locally for that type of matchup.
Speaker 4: I think the discourse will turn vile real quick online,
Speaker 4: as it usually does. But it could be and it
Speaker 4: could be awesome. It would be awesome. I am a
Speaker 4: firm backer, and these teams should be playing forever. And
Speaker 4: the fact that it's now a conference game, even though
Speaker 4: it's a bummer that it's not the last game of
Speaker 4: the year like this game will have, you know, big
Speaker 4: twelve conference title implications. So if it is an undefeated
Speaker 4: BYU team going up against a seven and one Utah
Speaker 4: team in Salt Lake, it'll just another chapter. Man, these
Speaker 4: games are always good, even when they're bad. And listen
Speaker 4: it's it would be very exciting and there will be,
Speaker 4: as usual, no lack for storylines. But by gotta they
Speaker 4: gotta get through the next few weeks. I kind of
Speaker 4: got to see, Like the Baylor game was like oh dang,
Speaker 4: like these guys are doing it, and then it's like, well,
Speaker 4: you know, Jake again with some bad turnovers and like
Speaker 4: nearly let Baylor sneak back in. I want to see
Speaker 4: how Byu plays over the course of October before I start,
Speaker 4: you know, circling that November ninth game.
Speaker 1: I had a couple of other questions for you, Chris,
Speaker 1: but I'm getting a colon oscar by tomorrow and today's
Speaker 1: prep day, so I really have to go. I appreciate
Speaker 1: your time, and yeah, man, I gotta go, so watch
Speaker 1: out too.
Speaker 4: I appreciate you. Good luck, man,