1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: You're listening to Bigfa Society and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,879 this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring 3 00:00:05,879 --> 00:00:08,720 you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen 4 00:00:08,839 --> 00:00:12,880 something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,719 quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere, 6 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,719 and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. 7 00:00:20,719 --> 00:00:24,000 These are the voices of the people who've lived it. 8 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,440 To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that 9 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,120 just might change the way you see the woods forever. 10 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,200 So stay with us. Please keep Jeremiah in your prayers 11 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:37,320 as he continues his fight against cancer. For more updates 12 00:00:37,359 --> 00:00:40,840 about his medical journey, please go to the carring Bridge 13 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,479 link in the show notes. Thank you, Hey, everybody. 14 00:00:44,679 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 2: Ronnie LeBlanc here, thanks so much for listening to the 15 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:53,200 Bigfoot Society podcast with Jeremiah. It's podcasts like this that 16 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:59,359 really bring awareness, connect everybody, experienceers, educate people that are 17 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,000 just getting into this subject matter. 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What about too? 36 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: Doing great? Feel free to share what your experience was 37 00:02:16,599 --> 00:02:17,120 their trip. 38 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 4: So growing up my family, we always believed in bigfoot 39 00:02:22,199 --> 00:02:28,560 right growing up in North Alabama, and I remember one 40 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:34,080 time we were all hunting a bigfoot. We could hear it, 41 00:02:34,159 --> 00:02:42,560 we were close and this rock comes flying like this 42 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,639 big old rock. No dude could just frock this fun 43 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:50,360 This hord comes flying at my head it was like 44 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:57,800 an inch away from my head, horrifying. My goodness, yes, 45 00:02:58,199 --> 00:03:02,240 and this bigfoot like you could hear it howling and growling. 46 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:07,080 It was horrible. And I remember one time we were 47 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:15,960 back at my house and dude, we were out there 48 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:21,039 chilling by the pool and then on everything bigfoot comes up. 49 00:03:22,039 --> 00:03:27,520 All right, and he we were chilling. We had our 50 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:32,280 dogs out there with his dog name of the Margo. 51 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,199 We ain't got him no more. The bigfoot of bigfoot 52 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:42,919 took him. Yeah, we were out there. It grabbed him, 53 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:48,159 grabbed two beers and ran in the woods. 54 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:57,159 Speaker 1: Okay, so I have a few questions. So what kind 55 00:03:57,159 --> 00:03:57,840 of beers were they? 56 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,439 Speaker 4: Mickey's make a little voltures? 57 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,759 Speaker 1: So why were you hunting bigfoot? 58 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 4: Because we've always believed in them and we've always been 59 00:04:09,599 --> 00:04:13,879 firm believers ever since. My granddaddy was a firm believer 60 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:15,759 as well, got my dad and do it, and my 61 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,279 dad got me into it. 62 00:04:18,319 --> 00:04:21,399 Speaker 1: So you've been generations of bigfoot hunters, is what it 63 00:04:21,439 --> 00:04:25,959 sounds like. Yeah, okay, okay, have you ever been successful? 64 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,519 Speaker 4: We ain't been successful, but we've been close, real close. 65 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:37,319 Speaker 1: Are you up by that? What is it? H? Northern 66 00:04:37,319 --> 00:04:40,600 Alabama would be Bankhead National Forest. 67 00:04:41,439 --> 00:04:44,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're near there, very close there, like an hour away. 68 00:04:45,079 --> 00:04:48,959 Speaker 1: Okay, have you heard of any other things people having 69 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:50,040 experiences up there? 70 00:04:51,199 --> 00:04:56,759 Speaker 4: Oh yeah yeah yeah. My cousin was a walking outside 71 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,720 and he came across these giant more showing a tree 72 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,600 like scratching on a tree. It ain't no bear did this. 73 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:09,519 Ain't no bear did this? Nah? And there were limbs everywhere. 74 00:05:09,519 --> 00:05:13,759 It was. It was crazy. 75 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: Hm hmm. Interesting. Well, trip, I I appreciate you coming up. 76 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,480 I hope that you are safe where you're at, but 77 00:05:24,519 --> 00:05:27,360 I also hope that Bigfoot is safe too, So maybe 78 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:28,920 you guys can come to an understanding. 79 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 4: But we weren't actually like hunting hunting him. We were 80 00:05:32,639 --> 00:05:34,959 like when I met hunt, I mean like we were 81 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:36,120 tracking him. 82 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, very good. 83 00:05:40,319 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. Interesting creatures, man, I mean they like they can 84 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,800 almost articulate words. If you're closings. 85 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,439 Speaker 1: Have you heard have you heard what what sounds like language? Before? 86 00:05:55,439 --> 00:05:59,959 Speaker 4: Yeah? I swear and I know it was like Jerry 87 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,240 Ris one of them sounds I Dave was speaking some 88 00:06:02,439 --> 00:06:05,439 vietmain these or something, because it was it was like 89 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,600 fast paced words with a lot of broken up. 90 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: M what what do you think Bigfoot is. Do you 91 00:06:16,079 --> 00:06:19,319 have any thoughts about that from probably even talking to 92 00:06:19,399 --> 00:06:22,040 your your father and your grandfather about it. 93 00:06:23,079 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 4: Well, Bigfoot is more than the big old ap is. 94 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:32,360 He's a legend and something to be respected and loved, 95 00:06:32,439 --> 00:06:37,519 and he's in he's nature as well. He's a perfect 96 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,040 representation of nature. 97 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 1: I like that. I like that. I like that, Trip, Trip, 98 00:06:44,639 --> 00:06:47,120 Thank you so much for coming up. Please keep us 99 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:51,560 album in mind if you ever have any other interactions 100 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,879 in the future, would love to hear about it. Okay, yes, sir, 101 00:06:55,680 --> 00:07:01,079 thank you. Well, there you go. I was a little 102 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,040 nervous at first about Trip when he said that, but 103 00:07:04,399 --> 00:07:08,040 it looks like looks like he's actually on the good side. 104 00:07:08,319 --> 00:07:12,759 So there you go. Thank you, Trip Hattie. 105 00:07:12,759 --> 00:07:14,639 Speaker 5: How are you doing today, Hey. 106 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: There, Hound, I'm doing well. Thanks for coming up. Feel 107 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:22,279 free to take it away there, Hound and share what 108 00:07:22,319 --> 00:07:23,279 your experience was. 109 00:07:24,079 --> 00:07:26,759 Speaker 5: So it was back in the It was in August 110 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:32,399 of twenty eighteen in central Utah. There's a national forest 111 00:07:32,399 --> 00:07:35,600 there called Fish Lake National Forest. We own about twelve 112 00:07:35,639 --> 00:07:40,800 hundred acres up there property and we run dogs for 113 00:07:40,839 --> 00:07:45,040 Baron Mountain Lion run dogs, and there's a place up 114 00:07:45,079 --> 00:07:48,639 there called Pine Hollow, and it's this deep, nasty canyon 115 00:07:49,519 --> 00:07:52,920 and we were hunting all morning, didn't get anything going. 116 00:07:52,959 --> 00:07:55,120 So I walked down this canyon with these dogs to 117 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,160 try and find a bear. I'm down in there. I 118 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:03,040 find a nice bear track. Dog take off. And when 119 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,439 I say, it takes everything you had to get these 120 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,079 dogs off a scent, like you have to yell at them, 121 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,600 column tone their collars. It takes so much to get 122 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,600 these dogs off a scent. They go about eight hundred 123 00:08:14,639 --> 00:08:17,920 yards into this thicket and all of a sudden, they 124 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,720 stop barking, stop everything, and come right back to me. 125 00:08:21,319 --> 00:08:24,120 I got dogs in between my legs, hideing behind me, 126 00:08:24,839 --> 00:08:29,959 not wanting to go anywhere. And except for one dog. 127 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,080 One dog is still out there and he's sitting in 128 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,600 this thicket and I hear him barking. I'm thinking, oh, 129 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,360 they got that bear baite up in that thicket. So 130 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:41,320 I go over there and I get about probably eighty 131 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,960 to one hundred yards from that thicket, and this black 132 00:08:44,039 --> 00:08:48,360 thing comes busting out of there. He's probably eight foot tall, 133 00:08:48,399 --> 00:08:53,080 and it was just amazing how fast he was. How 134 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,320 he like you know when you run, a person runs, 135 00:08:56,360 --> 00:09:00,440 how like they kind of bounce. This thing didn't bounce. 136 00:09:00,519 --> 00:09:03,159 It like was like it was on a treadmill, gliding 137 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:09,240 across the ground up this steep hillside. And it just 138 00:09:09,399 --> 00:09:16,039 was a crazy, crazy experience. And I I I'd always 139 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,720 watched the show find in Bigfoot, but I never believed, 140 00:09:18,759 --> 00:09:21,799 and it it put the fear of God, mean maybe believe. 141 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,879 Speaker 1: Goodness, have you ever been back to that area? 142 00:09:28,639 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, I go there a lot. It's it's our main 143 00:09:31,799 --> 00:09:35,240 hunting area and it's on our property. 144 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 1: Right, that's true. 145 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 5: Good point, And I think I think there is a 146 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,120 group of them living there because there's a lot of 147 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:44,279 other weird things that happen. 148 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: Well, I was just gonna ask you, there's got to 149 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,960 be other stuff. He's noticed that that leads you to 150 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,399 believe there's stuff going on as well. Yeah. 151 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,759 Speaker 5: So like we'll go up the road, like we start 152 00:09:54,799 --> 00:09:56,519 hunting at like five point thirty in the morning. We'll 153 00:09:56,519 --> 00:09:59,159 go up the road and when we come back, they'll 154 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:04,080 be trees that are about probably as wide as like 155 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:08,159 a thigh of a human in an X across the road. 156 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,240 So we'll go up, they won't be there. We'll come 157 00:10:12,279 --> 00:10:16,399 down and they're there, yep. And also you'll be hiking 158 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,200 down these like elk or big animals, and they leave 159 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:23,159 big trails, and so we follow the elk trails because 160 00:10:23,159 --> 00:10:25,200 it's the path at least resistance and it's easier to 161 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:29,120 walk through these woods like that. And hanging over the 162 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,720 top of these X these elk trails, you'll find big 163 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:33,960 X formations. 164 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: Okay, oh, very very very interesting. Are you the only 165 00:10:39,279 --> 00:10:40,960 one that's had a sighting on that property? 166 00:10:41,399 --> 00:10:48,759 Speaker 5: No, sir, my sisters have. They their sighting was up 167 00:10:48,799 --> 00:10:49,559 against the house. 168 00:10:50,639 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 1: Really okay, so how close to the house. 169 00:10:53,639 --> 00:11:00,279 Speaker 5: Like, so we got two bulldogs and they were having 170 00:11:00,279 --> 00:11:03,240 a slumb party with her. She plays softball, so her 171 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,200 whole entire softball team was out there that day and 172 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,320 so they're in the back past you're playing softball everything 173 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:13,480 like that. And the parents My parents were out of 174 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,240 town that week, so I was taking care of my siblings. 175 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:22,159 And it's about probably two thirty in the morning and 176 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,519 my sister comes into my room and she's like, hey, 177 00:11:24,519 --> 00:11:26,559 did you let the bulldogs out? I'm like, no, what 178 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,159 do you mean? Why are you asking that? They're like 179 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:32,519 outside the area of my room. We're hearing, like you know, 180 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,559 when a bulldog breeze it sounds weird because our face 181 00:11:35,639 --> 00:11:40,679 is so smashed in. Yep, it's like that that like hard, 182 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,679 like almost like they're suffocating themselves. 183 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah. 184 00:11:45,279 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 5: And so I was like, no, they're not out, and 185 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,840 she's like, oh, okay, you just must be the hounds 186 00:11:50,919 --> 00:11:54,159 or something like that. I'm like, yeah, okay, And then 187 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:58,399 I guess they the girls like hurt it again and 188 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,799 they like double dog dare My sister go out there 189 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,200 and see what it was. And she says like, it's 190 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,279 just this big black figure was standing against the wall 191 00:12:07,279 --> 00:12:09,240 where her room was, and she was like, it was 192 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,120 almost like it was putting its ear against the wall 193 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:12,320 listening to us. 194 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:16,799 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, that's that's some scary stuff, dude. How 195 00:12:16,799 --> 00:12:20,639 old were they. 196 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,519 Speaker 5: They were twelve and thirteen at the time. It was 197 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:25,120 the twelve age group. And they came running into my 198 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,879 room and they didn't know what it was at all. 199 00:12:27,919 --> 00:12:29,440 All they saw and it was dark house, so all 200 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,120 they saw was a human figure. So they came in 201 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,720 yelling in my room, going, there's a man outside our window. 202 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,679 There's a man outside our room. So I ran out there, 203 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:43,080 thinking there's some freaking perv over there, and it was 204 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:47,519 gone and I was out there within fifteen seconds from 205 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:51,440 when they saw it, and it was gone. 206 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,519 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. So did you see anything out there 207 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:59,240 that would that would tell you, Yeah, there was something 208 00:12:59,279 --> 00:12:59,919 standing there. 209 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 5: There was kind of like on the wall where they 210 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,159 she said it was leaning up against. There was like 211 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:11,559 a grease, greasy slickness to it, like you know when 212 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,360 your hair gets greasy and you rub your hair out, 213 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,399 it gets on your fingers and stuff. Oh yeah, I 214 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,039 wonder it was like there was like a grease slick 215 00:13:18,039 --> 00:13:19,960 from where it had been leaning up against the wall 216 00:13:20,039 --> 00:13:20,440 or something. 217 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: Okay, gotcha. So any any tracks or indentations you could 218 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:29,120 see in the ground. 219 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 5: No, Up in that area, it's a lot of dust 220 00:13:32,639 --> 00:13:34,799 and hard It's like a lot of hard play. So 221 00:13:34,879 --> 00:13:37,639 unless it rains, you get nothing in the ground. 222 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:39,039 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. 223 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,399 Speaker 5: It's solid, hard ground until you get a little bit 224 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:43,720 of rain and then it's good mud. 225 00:13:43,759 --> 00:13:52,159 Speaker 1: But so then my question is the people that so 226 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:56,120 you and your sister have had experiences. Have you then 227 00:13:56,240 --> 00:14:02,480 had conversations with if like and your parents at the time, 228 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,000 and how was that conversation had. 229 00:14:06,879 --> 00:14:09,759 Speaker 5: They I talked to him about it, and they they 230 00:14:10,919 --> 00:14:16,480 they believe me, but they can't say. And they they're 231 00:14:16,519 --> 00:14:18,440 not calling me a liar, they're not calling my sister 232 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,879 a liar, because they know that they know we saw something, 233 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,600 but they just don't they can't put a they they 234 00:14:25,679 --> 00:14:28,519 themselves can't put a name to it yet. 235 00:14:29,399 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: Okay, gotcha. So they they it wasn't a thing where 236 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,200 like you told them, and they were like, oh, yeah, 237 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,799 we totally know about this. This has happened for years. 238 00:14:37,799 --> 00:14:39,639 Grandpa knows about it, et cetera, et cetera. 239 00:14:39,799 --> 00:14:43,799 Speaker 5: Like so we're so we actually are the first owners 240 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:45,559 of this property. We bought it off a guy we 241 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:49,159 don't know got it so I and we've only owned 242 00:14:49,159 --> 00:14:50,759 it for two years. 243 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: Oh interesting. Have you talked to the neighbors surrounding neighbors 244 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,000 at all, if you do, you have. 245 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:01,799 Speaker 5: Any Yeah, I've talked to them, and and uh, one 246 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:05,559 of the surrounding neighbors is actually my uncle, and he 247 00:15:05,679 --> 00:15:07,679 has told me accounts from when he was a boy 248 00:15:07,759 --> 00:15:10,679 of sneaking out of his house and going out on 249 00:15:10,759 --> 00:15:12,840 horseback and stuff like that with his buddies and them 250 00:15:12,919 --> 00:15:18,840 having rocks and stuff thrown at him. And okay, and 251 00:15:18,919 --> 00:15:21,799 like I know, I know a lot of people don't 252 00:15:21,879 --> 00:15:26,080 like him, the bf r O. I know a lot 253 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,639 of people don't like him, but I went on their 254 00:15:28,639 --> 00:15:31,080 website and looked, and there is a quite big cluster 255 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,519 of sightings in the Fishlake National Forest. 256 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,679 Speaker 1: Really, that's that is actually really interesting because you're the 257 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,799 first person I've ever talked to from central Utah. I 258 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:42,840 don't know if this is considered central Utah. It kind 259 00:15:42,879 --> 00:15:45,240 of looks like it. So that's good to know that 260 00:15:45,279 --> 00:15:48,600 there's a lot of other things being documented around this area. 261 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 5: Because, yeah, like Utah, it's a high mountain desert there 262 00:15:53,159 --> 00:15:55,440 there is a lot of open land, sagebrush, but this 263 00:15:55,519 --> 00:16:01,799 Fishlake National Forest is high mountain pine, quake, quaky aspens, 264 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:06,320 big Ponderosa pine, thick timber mountains is this area? 265 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:08,919 Speaker 1: Okay, what's the elevation up there? 266 00:16:10,919 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 5: Uh? Where the property is? Are like the highest point 267 00:16:14,399 --> 00:16:15,000 on that mountain. 268 00:16:15,759 --> 00:16:17,559 Speaker 1: I like the property. I'm just curious. 269 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,679 Speaker 5: The property is at sixty five hundred feet. 270 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:23,879 Speaker 1: Oh that's like perfect, dude. Yeah, that's like that's it 271 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:29,360 from what I know for like, you know, Bigfoot elevation. 272 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:33,320 They like certain elevations for sure. Oh my goodness. So 273 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,320 you guys freaked out living on a property like that? 274 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,320 With activity or how are you guys handling it. 275 00:16:39,279 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 5: I'm not just because I've never heard a story about 276 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:43,679 a bigfoot being aggressive to people. 277 00:16:43,679 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: I haven't, okay, and okay. 278 00:16:49,679 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 5: The like I don't want tom Like, we run cattle 279 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:59,519 and it's like we've had some calves go missing and stuff. 280 00:16:59,519 --> 00:17:05,039 But it's like I've and I've talked to other podcasts. 281 00:17:05,319 --> 00:17:07,559 I was on Sasquatch Chronicles. 282 00:17:08,039 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: Oh for sure. Cool, that's awesome, dude. 283 00:17:10,799 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 5: I was on Sasquatch Chronicles. I was on uh Midnight 284 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:24,000 Monster Files. Okay, that's another TikTok live stream, and I 285 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,279 was asking him like like I don't want to get 286 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:27,799 rid of them. I just want to keep them off 287 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,839 our land or where we keep our cattle because like 288 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,400 every time they take or I can't blame it on them. 289 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:38,240 But these are three hundred pound cows going and never 290 00:17:38,279 --> 00:17:39,000 being seen again. 291 00:17:39,039 --> 00:17:42,799 Speaker 1: No blood, no, no, okay, and so you're not even seen, 292 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,680 like bodies aren't even showing up. They're just totally disappearing. 293 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, no blood, no nothing. It's like you get one 294 00:17:49,559 --> 00:17:52,480 killed by a lion or a coyote, it's bloody, you 295 00:17:52,519 --> 00:17:54,559 find them everything like that. But these ones are just. 296 00:17:54,559 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: Gone, okay, are there other weird things happening on the property, Like, well, 297 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,200 we'll just leave it at that. They're strange things. 298 00:18:05,759 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 5: So I don't know if you would account it to this, 299 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,839 but this is naive American land where we are like 300 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:16,160 we find arrowheads, we find putch your glyphs all over 301 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:16,880 our property. 302 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: Really, Oh that's super interesting, okay? And so do you 303 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:27,480 ever see lights in the wood in the woods stuff 304 00:18:27,519 --> 00:18:28,079 like that. 305 00:18:28,519 --> 00:18:31,519 Speaker 5: Not like not tree level like in the woods in 306 00:18:31,519 --> 00:18:33,960 the woods, but like right above tree level, sitting like 307 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:36,000 thirty forty feet in the air. 308 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:38,319 Speaker 1: What shape are they? 309 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,559 Speaker 5: The ones I've been seeing o are like almost like an. 310 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 1: Egg yep, okay, size of. 311 00:18:45,599 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 5: Them probably just about the size of a normal person's head. 312 00:18:53,079 --> 00:18:58,039 Speaker 1: Oh interesting, Okay, Wow, that's that's really really wild. Are 313 00:18:58,079 --> 00:19:02,839 you okay? You not leaving food outside for him or anything? Right? 314 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:03,599 Speaker 4: Oh? 315 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:10,839 Speaker 1: No, okay, good? Are you finding stuff outside like unlived 316 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,440 animals or weird objects? 317 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,279 Speaker 5: So I was gonna say speaking of that, like, yeah, 318 00:19:17,319 --> 00:19:19,799 so we have a we have a I don't know, 319 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:21,759 it's like a barn almost, Like it's not even really 320 00:19:21,799 --> 00:19:25,599 a barn, it's like a shed. And we have two 321 00:19:25,599 --> 00:19:29,559 deep friezers in there because every year we put we 322 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,279 get says. We run our own cattle. We always kill 323 00:19:32,319 --> 00:19:36,039 a COWI year for ourselves. So we have these two 324 00:19:36,039 --> 00:19:39,200 deep freezers that are just filled with beef. And one 325 00:19:39,279 --> 00:19:41,680 day we went into the barn and like these and 326 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,519 we have padlocks on them because we have raccoons, and 327 00:19:44,599 --> 00:19:46,440 raccoons are smart enough to get their fingers underneath the 328 00:19:46,599 --> 00:19:49,880 latch and they'll open your so we have these two 329 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:53,319 giant padlocks on so they can't open it. And these 330 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,119 we went in there one day and these two deep 331 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,319 freezers were like on the floor on the opposite side 332 00:19:58,319 --> 00:20:04,079 of the building from where we left, and we accounted 333 00:20:04,079 --> 00:20:06,400 it to a bear, But I don't know, Oh. 334 00:20:08,079 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: My goodness, So they're you think they're trying to get 335 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,720 in and get get that food. Probably maybe that's what 336 00:20:14,759 --> 00:20:15,240 I'm thinking. 337 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:19,039 Speaker 5: Yeah, And like we've also and speaking about dead animals, 338 00:20:19,079 --> 00:20:24,079 like there's a bunch of stray cats around there. We 339 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,960 have found like stray cats with like no sign of injury, 340 00:20:28,519 --> 00:20:31,680 just dead and then sitting like on a branch in 341 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:32,160 the tree. 342 00:20:33,039 --> 00:20:35,559 Speaker 1: So their necks aren't broken or anything, they don't look 343 00:20:35,599 --> 00:20:36,400 like they're ringed out. 344 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 5: Well, I've never like I've never checked their neck, but 345 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,839 like I assume that when they're dead and you grab them, 346 00:20:43,839 --> 00:20:45,759 their neck flops over, it's because they're dead, but maybe 347 00:20:45,759 --> 00:20:47,000 it's because they're next broken. 348 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's that's a tricky, tricky deal because it's 349 00:20:51,279 --> 00:20:52,720 kind of like you don't really want to mess with 350 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,079 a dead cat. But I get it. I wouldn't want 351 00:20:55,119 --> 00:21:01,200 to anyways. So man, it's like people in your situation, 352 00:21:01,599 --> 00:21:04,559 they'll do things like they'll put up game cameras around 353 00:21:04,559 --> 00:21:05,000 the house. 354 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:09,279 Speaker 5: They'll that's what That's what Wes from South Scot's Chronicles 355 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,960 and the other guy told me to was game cameras 356 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,680 or motion sensor lights. 357 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: That's it's it's what I would do if I was 358 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,839 in your situation as quick as possible. Like if you're 359 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:22,799 not wanting them near the house, that's what you do. 360 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:24,799 Speaker 5: Yeah, Like if they're on if they're in the woods 361 00:21:24,799 --> 00:21:27,319 around the property or even on the property, I don't mind, 362 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,559 just right, I I just don't want them near the house. 363 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're just kind of in with those lights and 364 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,759 and those things. You're you're kind of setting up a boundary. 365 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:44,039 And sometimes it's like they'll even come up to see 366 00:21:44,079 --> 00:21:47,759 that as far as they can get, like especially if 367 00:21:47,759 --> 00:21:49,519 you have lights, they'll come up to the edge of 368 00:21:49,559 --> 00:21:52,599 the lights and just hang out there. So but that, 369 00:21:52,759 --> 00:21:53,920 I mean, that'll do it, man. 370 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,279 Speaker 5: And like the thing that I've noticed a law on 371 00:21:57,279 --> 00:22:00,440 this property is so we don't just do bare amount lion. 372 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,400 I do raccoon hunting two, which you do at night 373 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,839 with your dogs or and it's like two in the morning, 374 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,480 and like you can count it to other things. Yes, 375 00:22:10,599 --> 00:22:14,039 but it's so weird, Like I'll be walking fine through 376 00:22:14,039 --> 00:22:15,759 the bottom of it. We have this big giant draw 377 00:22:15,799 --> 00:22:19,319 in our giant like eating out part of the canyon 378 00:22:19,319 --> 00:22:23,279 from a little creek that runs through it. So I 379 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,200 walk the bottom of that with dogs, trying to find 380 00:22:25,279 --> 00:22:30,000 raccoons and stuff to train younger dogs. And the walls 381 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:35,640 of this like canyon and draws are like vertical, probably 382 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,240 thirty feet like straight vertical, because it's just where the 383 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:43,720 creeks carved out a spot over time. And I'll be 384 00:22:43,799 --> 00:22:47,119 walking down just like sitting there walking listening for dogs 385 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,240 to bark or just humming along and then like no 386 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,359 problem at all, no eerie feeling, and all of a sudden, 387 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:57,039 it's like you just get a feeling of dread. You 388 00:22:57,079 --> 00:22:59,039 just feel it in your chest, in the back of 389 00:22:59,079 --> 00:23:02,039 your head, like there's something out here right now, and 390 00:23:02,079 --> 00:23:06,720 like you'll have like I don't know if you can 391 00:23:06,799 --> 00:23:08,839 it could be anything walking up on top of that 392 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,079 on top of that flat flat plateau on the because 393 00:23:12,079 --> 00:23:14,400 I'm down the bottom and the plateau is about thirty 394 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,640 feet above me. But like you'll have boulders or rocks 395 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,359 come rolling down the edge parallel with you while you're 396 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:22,039 walking along. 397 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:33,559 Speaker 1: Oh, that's that's crazy stuff, man, I'm lin goodness, you're 398 00:23:33,599 --> 00:23:37,079 really in the thick of it. Ed did give some 399 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:41,519 good advice too, and let me get that. So she 400 00:23:41,759 --> 00:23:45,759 said that, and and you know this is just take 401 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:50,480 take it as it is. You know, ask their permission, sure, 402 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,319 tell them where your bat batteries. A lot of people 403 00:23:53,319 --> 00:23:56,039 will talk to them directly out loud. And you know, 404 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,440 I don't know how you feel about that, but a 405 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:02,359 lot of people do have That is successful for a 406 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,680 lot of people. So that might get something to take 407 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:05,720 into consideration too. 408 00:24:05,799 --> 00:24:07,759 Speaker 5: Maybe maybe I did talk to him nice because I've 409 00:24:07,839 --> 00:24:08,599 yelled at him before. 410 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:14,319 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, don't, I wouldn't. Don't. Let's let's definitely stop 411 00:24:14,319 --> 00:24:15,839 the yelling. Yeah, I would say. 412 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,559 Speaker 5: There was one night in respect. Yeah, we have a 413 00:24:18,599 --> 00:24:23,480 tin roof barn and they're kept and uh, me and 414 00:24:23,519 --> 00:24:25,839 my buddies were actually out sleeping underneath this tin roof 415 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,480 barn because it was just a nice night and we 416 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,200 wanted to have kind of like a camp out almost, 417 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:33,799 and rocks kept hitting the roof of this tin roof 418 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,000 barn and I had enough, but I got up. I 419 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:42,039 said get out of here, go h And I yelled 420 00:24:42,039 --> 00:24:46,599 at him and everything like that, and I probably went 421 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,240 too far by shooting off in the air. 422 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:51,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's a thing where you don't want 423 00:24:51,599 --> 00:24:55,519 to get a situation to escalate, but I think you can. 424 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,960 You can say things like that with respect and being 425 00:24:59,039 --> 00:25:04,000 firm right and uh you know, not having to fire 426 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,880 and things like that. But it's just your kind of 427 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,640 learning as you go along. But I think that the 428 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:13,160 quickest way would be, you know, as the other guys 429 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,880 you were talking to were saying, you know, your your 430 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,799 motion sensored lights and things like that are really going 431 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,720 to help you. But man, I I definitely want to 432 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,640 hear how this, how this goes, you know, if you 433 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,240 do decide to go forward with things. 434 00:25:29,039 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 5: Like that, because and I think the cameras will work 435 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,400 because there's the south side of the property, which is 436 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,160 where the gate is. We have cameras on that gate, 437 00:25:38,279 --> 00:25:41,079 and it always seems like whenever you hear them or 438 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,400 you feel like the area somewhere's coming from area, I 439 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,119 always feel like it's on the north side of the property. 440 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:46,079 Is where they're coming from. 441 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: Okay, interesting is that is there more woods on the 442 00:25:53,039 --> 00:25:55,079 north side. Is there anything on the north side that 443 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,559 would be like an area that they might be protecting 444 00:25:59,279 --> 00:26:00,000 or hanging out. 445 00:26:00,759 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 5: That's where like I don't know, like if this hasn't, 446 00:26:03,079 --> 00:26:05,759 but that's where most of the Indian artifacts and Indian 447 00:26:06,559 --> 00:26:07,319 areas are. 448 00:26:07,839 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, totally, man, that's where it. 449 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 5: And like I don't know if you can count this 450 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,880 to Bigfoot or not either, but like there's a spot 451 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,119 up on this canyon. We go up on our property 452 00:26:20,279 --> 00:26:23,599 and it's a big limestone canyon and there's a big 453 00:26:23,599 --> 00:26:28,720 hole in the wall and around it stacked is this 454 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,480 was from the Indians? Flat rocks they're about about an 455 00:26:32,519 --> 00:26:35,960 inch thick and they're flat and they're caked in mud 456 00:26:36,039 --> 00:26:38,079 and like turned into like almost like a doorway of 457 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,759 this cave. But in this cave. There's a bunch of 458 00:26:41,799 --> 00:26:44,759 like bones of cows and stuff inside this cave. But 459 00:26:44,799 --> 00:26:49,359 this cave is like probably two hundred yards up a 460 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,480 side of a cliff. You have to drop down from 461 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,880 the top of the mountain to get down into this cave. 462 00:26:57,559 --> 00:26:59,480 And it's a nasty it's a nasty hike. 463 00:27:03,319 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: That's why are they old bones or or what? Do 464 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:07,039 you think? 465 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,559 Speaker 5: Like some of them are all old, old, and there's 466 00:27:11,559 --> 00:27:13,559 some that are fresh, and there's some that are fresher 467 00:27:13,759 --> 00:27:17,680 like there's none that are like have Like there's some 468 00:27:17,759 --> 00:27:20,559 that you can still see blood inside the marrow and 469 00:27:20,599 --> 00:27:22,440 everything like that, but none of them have meat on them, 470 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,839 but you can still see the resident of blood that's 471 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:25,440 in the marrow. 472 00:27:26,279 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: I wonder if some of those are your cows. 473 00:27:28,839 --> 00:27:33,319 Speaker 5: And like I don't know, Like I don't know, Like 474 00:27:34,079 --> 00:27:37,000 do you believe that they can use tools? No? 475 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 1: Absolutely, And I'll tell you why because I've I've found 476 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,359 it in Mount Hood National Forest. I found an area 477 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,880 with a researcher where there were stacked ferns next to 478 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,079 a handprint in the mud, and then there was like 479 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,920 piles of mud and it's just like thirty miles out 480 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,440 in the woods and the hand print was like this, So. 481 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 5: Like, my question is is because there's a big rock 482 00:27:58,079 --> 00:27:59,519 in there, and there's a little rock next to it, 483 00:27:59,559 --> 00:28:01,079 and right now to it there was bones that were 484 00:28:01,079 --> 00:28:02,799 split in half, almost like he's trying to get the 485 00:28:02,799 --> 00:28:04,599 marrow out of the inside of the bone. 486 00:28:04,599 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, dude, you do you have pictures of that? 487 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,119 That would be amazing. 488 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 5: No, I didn't. I I don't have pictures of that. 489 00:28:12,039 --> 00:28:15,160 But yeah, I'll stay followed you and I got your email. 490 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,599 Actually I wrote it down. So Okay, I run, I 491 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,480 run baar through that canyon all the time. So if 492 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,799 I ever come by that canyon and I'll go in 493 00:28:22,839 --> 00:28:23,599 that cave. 494 00:28:24,079 --> 00:28:26,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be that would be awesome. Yes, feel 495 00:28:26,279 --> 00:28:28,240 free to send me an email. You got big for 496 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,839 Society at gmail dot com and uh yeah, keep me 497 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,440 in informed of anything else that happens or if you 498 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,640 have any other questions, you can feel feel free to 499 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:38,279 reach out. Man. 500 00:28:38,799 --> 00:28:40,599 Speaker 5: And what and I gotta quick like is that X 501 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,480 them doing that across the road? Is that telling him like, 502 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:44,079 don't come up here. 503 00:28:45,799 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: Man. That's one of those tricky things because some people 504 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,319 are like, well, they don't want you to go in 505 00:28:51,319 --> 00:28:54,319 that area, or maybe like if you have a tree break, 506 00:28:54,359 --> 00:28:56,920 they're trying to get you there, trying to mark roots. 507 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,920 Like there's all these different thoughts and it's like we 508 00:29:00,599 --> 00:29:05,039 just we just don't know that the truth on it yet, right, Yeah. 509 00:29:05,079 --> 00:29:07,079 Speaker 5: Like the thing of like if it was laid just 510 00:29:07,119 --> 00:29:09,759 across the road, I'd be like, Okay, it's them saying like, 511 00:29:10,039 --> 00:29:11,839 we're here, it's a tree bake, pointing in a direction. 512 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,720 But how it's an X every time across the road. 513 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,680 That's what I'm like, are they trying to like tell 514 00:29:17,759 --> 00:29:19,519 us not to come here by making an X. 515 00:29:20,519 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: I will tell you this that ninety nine percent of 516 00:29:23,759 --> 00:29:26,680 people I talked to, like researchers and people that have 517 00:29:26,759 --> 00:29:29,079 been in it for a long time, they'll say that 518 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,839 X usually means out And Ed is saying that in 519 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,440 the comments too, that from Indiana. 520 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,119 Speaker 5: So we so do we piss them off every time 521 00:29:38,119 --> 00:29:40,000 we go up there and take those exit and kick 522 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,640 them off the road? Probably? 523 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: Probably? Potentially, Yeah, it's it's probably not a fun thing 524 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,799 for them, I would guess. But I mean usually if 525 00:29:49,799 --> 00:29:52,160 I'm out there, I try to keep things as it 526 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,559 is as they are. I don't try taking down stuff. 527 00:29:55,559 --> 00:29:59,279 If you find structures like weird wooden structures, don't go 528 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:00,920 in them, try to take them down. 529 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 5: I wouldn't do that, but like when they put it 530 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,160 in the middle of the road, you kind of got 531 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:05,720 to move it so you can get your truck or 532 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:06,720 your vehicle up the road. 533 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:08,599 Speaker 1: I get it. I get so it might be a 534 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,680 thing where he's like, hey, guys, you know if I 535 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,319 if I want to get up there, I need to 536 00:30:14,359 --> 00:30:18,240 move this and ask I don't know. It's a tricky one, right, 537 00:30:18,279 --> 00:30:19,920 Why are I trying to get you out of there? 538 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:20,200 You know? 539 00:30:20,319 --> 00:30:22,559 Speaker 5: Do I leave them maybe a gift if I move 540 00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:25,880 it like an apple? 541 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,839 Speaker 1: You you could do that over this side or you 542 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,839 could eats saying you could ask them not to put 543 00:30:32,839 --> 00:30:34,359 it in the road. Maybe put it on the side 544 00:30:34,359 --> 00:30:38,880 of the road, is my my thought. Okay, yeah, try 545 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,240 to come to it some kind of understanding. 546 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,119 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think. I think there are amazing creatures and 547 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,680 amazing oh yeah animals and what they can do is 548 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,720 it fantastic? And so I don't want to hurt them. 549 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,319 I don't want to bother them, but I also don't 550 00:30:54,359 --> 00:30:57,920 want them hindering how I get around on my property. 551 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,039 Speaker 1: Sure it's in situation is like her is, it's a 552 00:31:01,039 --> 00:31:04,359 lot of it is coming to an understanding and you know, 553 00:31:05,119 --> 00:31:09,279 living in harmony piece all that, and. 554 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,839 Speaker 5: Yeah, and like I don't know, is this a thing too, 555 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:19,720 Like I'm I'm nineteen right now, but like whenever my 556 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,160 dad it's my dad's property, my parents are split. Whenever 557 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,359 my dad and there's no parents in the house are 558 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,359 there for like two or three days, the activity spikes almost. 559 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 1: Really that's really interesting. 560 00:31:32,279 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 5: Okay, it's like do they find my dad threatening or 561 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,000 do they find older men threatening and so and do 562 00:31:40,079 --> 00:31:44,519 they find like, yeah, do they find younger kids more 563 00:31:46,799 --> 00:31:51,640 like I don't know how to say it, like less threatening? 564 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,119 Thing can get closer because like I've heard things about 565 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,319 like them liking to watch kids play and stuff. 566 00:31:57,519 --> 00:32:01,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and a lot of people repoor they're 567 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:08,680 curious females, children, people watching TV things like that. And 568 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,960 you know, if you do have an individual where they're 569 00:32:12,599 --> 00:32:15,640 kind of more like an alpha male, they're older, bigger, 570 00:32:16,039 --> 00:32:19,720 et cetera. Or they have some kind of weapons something 571 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,160 when they're around, yeah, they're probably not going to get 572 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,680 as close and cause mischief, you know. 573 00:32:25,519 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 5: Because yeah, it's like and like me at the time, 574 00:32:29,079 --> 00:32:31,920 of when that sister one with my sister happened, I 575 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,440 was probably I think I was eighteen at the time. 576 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:35,400 Was last year. 577 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, But like. 578 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 5: I've had times when I had buddies over and stuff 579 00:32:44,119 --> 00:32:46,079 and they didn't bother me my buddies, But like the 580 00:32:46,119 --> 00:32:48,000 one time when there was a bunch of these girls 581 00:32:48,079 --> 00:32:50,640 running around, I wonder if that's like that was like 582 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,000 something that clicked in his head and like peaked his curiosity. 583 00:32:53,039 --> 00:32:54,640 Was with all these little girls running around. 584 00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:01,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that there are different things associated with that 585 00:33:01,519 --> 00:33:03,640 that I have to be I'm not really going to 586 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,160 get into on this platform just because I want to 587 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,359 keep the platform, if you get what I mean. But uh, 588 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,039 I think you kind of get what I'm talking about 589 00:33:13,119 --> 00:33:15,240 that Yeah, yeah, exactly. 590 00:33:15,359 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 5: I was just saying maybe that he finds them less threatening, 591 00:33:18,519 --> 00:33:21,920 or finds them more totally active or stuff like that, 592 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,480 And it was like, Okay, that's I'm used to seeing 593 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,599 all these guys around here. They're big and threatening, but 594 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,960 now there's all these null, little threatening things I'm gonna 595 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,079 be I'm gonna investigate. 596 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a good way to put him, man, Yeah, 597 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,519 you got it, exactly. That is a good way to 598 00:33:37,519 --> 00:33:40,559 put it, man, But dude, you are in in the 599 00:33:40,559 --> 00:33:45,559 middle of some wild, wild stuff. Keep me in the loop. 600 00:33:45,759 --> 00:33:48,359 You got my email, But thank you so much for 601 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:48,920 coming up. 602 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 4: Man. 603 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: If you have any more questions, you'd feel free to 604 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,119 reach out. I'll try to ask him or try to 605 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:55,160 answer him best I can. 606 00:33:56,079 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 4: You. 607 00:33:56,799 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 3: Hey, beuddy, doing good. 608 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: You still doing good. Thanks for coming up man. Yeah. Yeah, 609 00:34:02,799 --> 00:34:03,519 I'm from Iowa. 610 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:08,280 Speaker 3: I'm sixty five years old. I was a professional trapper 611 00:34:09,079 --> 00:34:14,639 along the Missouri River with my buddies, and I lived 612 00:34:14,679 --> 00:34:18,599 in Portsmouth, Iowa, which is right at the edge of 613 00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:23,639 the Lowest Hills. And if you know anything about the 614 00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:28,920 Lowest Hills, it's a very dense, dense forest along the river. 615 00:34:30,559 --> 00:34:33,039 And so that's where I trapped, and so a body 616 00:34:33,079 --> 00:34:37,440 of mine. We were doing a lot of spotlighting coons 617 00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:41,360 raccoons because we were making one thousand dollars a week 618 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:48,519 at the time, and we found a crip that we 619 00:34:48,679 --> 00:34:53,599 were found a lot of raccoons in. So one night 620 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,159 it was my turn to run down into the river 621 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,360 with flashlight. So I run down into the river and 622 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,440 I'm ready to to go across the creek, and all 623 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:09,519 of a sudden, I hear this giant something running in 624 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,679 in the middle of the creek, and it was two legged. 625 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,280 It wasn't four legged, it wasn't a deer. It was 626 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:21,000 two legged. And I've spent all of my life out 627 00:35:21,159 --> 00:35:24,280 in the wilderness because that's what I did. And I 628 00:35:24,519 --> 00:35:27,360 was always in the middle of the night out trapping 629 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:32,440 and hunting. And it ran up the creek and it 630 00:35:32,599 --> 00:35:37,320 stopped right in front of me, and I yelled at 631 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,639 it because I knew it was a person. I thought 632 00:35:39,679 --> 00:35:42,440 it was a person, and I said, who are you? 633 00:35:43,079 --> 00:35:43,639 Speaker 1: Who are you? 634 00:35:44,559 --> 00:35:47,519 Speaker 3: Answer me? And it stood right and it was only 635 00:35:47,599 --> 00:35:50,239 twenty five feet away, and it was big because I 636 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,840 could tell by the way it was running up the creek, 637 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,320 and it wouldn't answer. So finally it scared me, so 638 00:35:57,519 --> 00:36:01,159 I shot over its head and then I just took 639 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:06,280 off running, went back to the truck and told the 640 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:12,239 guys nothing. I didn't tell them nothing because I did 641 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,639 because I was not afraid of nothing. And they knew 642 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,400 I was the main guy, and if I was afraid 643 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:19,199 of something. 644 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 4: They wouldn't. 645 00:36:20,679 --> 00:36:23,320 Speaker 1: And you're not the main guy, yes, exactly. 646 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:28,159 Speaker 3: I ran everything okay, And if I got scared of something, 647 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,320 and I'd been out in the woods all of my 648 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,679 life in the middle of the night, but that was weird. Okay, 649 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,079 that was the first thing that happened. So then I 650 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:42,159 come back the next day because I wanted to go explore, 651 00:36:42,599 --> 00:36:46,159 and I didn't say anything to my buddies, didn't say nothing, 652 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,559 and I went looking and I didn't see any tracks, nothing. 653 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,840 But as I we were going up the creek, we 654 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:58,800 found a giant cave. It was five foot high and 655 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:03,039 it went back in probably i'd say seven foot into 656 00:37:03,159 --> 00:37:07,039 the clay and it was all carved out with fingers 657 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:11,800 for like a bear. It was clawed out, and we 658 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,599 were like, there's no bears around here, what could have 659 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:21,119 clawed this cave out? And I still didn't say anything. Okay, 660 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:27,960 I didn't say a thing to the guys. So then 661 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,920 I said, well, we're going to start I told my buddy, 662 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,159 we're going to start trapping this because there's a lot 663 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:37,360 of a lot of a lot of raccoons in this creek. 664 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,199 So and I never told him a thing. So we 665 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,320 went out there and we were trapping this for about 666 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,599 three days. We set all of our traps out and 667 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,639 so he dropped me off on one end of the crick, 668 00:37:52,079 --> 00:37:54,079 and he went on to the other end of the crik, 669 00:37:55,639 --> 00:37:57,400 and he's supposed to be we're going to meet in 670 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:02,639 the middle, and all of a sudden he comes flying 671 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:08,679 down across, you know, through the field, honking his horn 672 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,840 and yelling and screaming out the window. 673 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,679 Speaker 4: Get out of there, Get out of there, Get out 674 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,199 of there, now, get out of the creck. 675 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 3: So I come running out of the creek and I 676 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,920 come running up to him, and he's freaking out. He's 677 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,039 got tears coming down his eyes, and he says, I just. 678 00:38:24,199 --> 00:38:25,639 Speaker 1: Ran into Bigfoot. 679 00:38:28,559 --> 00:38:30,840 Speaker 3: And he says he was down at the edge of 680 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,039 the creek and he looked across it and he heard 681 00:38:33,039 --> 00:38:36,639 a grunt and he looked and he's only fifth away, 682 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:41,599 and here's this bigfoot standing there and he's swaying back 683 00:38:41,679 --> 00:38:44,800 and forth. And all he did is made one grunt. 684 00:38:46,159 --> 00:38:50,360 But he and then my friend, he turned around and 685 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:54,280 took off running. And to this day, if you if 686 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,920 I get him on the phone, he will tell you 687 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,599 that he ran into big Foot. So then we go 688 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:07,519 back to town and then he tells everybody in town 689 00:39:07,599 --> 00:39:10,559 that he ran into Bigfoot. And they all think he's crazy, right, 690 00:39:10,639 --> 00:39:12,679 because we lived we grew up in a small town. 691 00:39:13,199 --> 00:39:15,639 So if you do something like this, if you tell 692 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,800 somebody something like this, you know they're going. 693 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 1: To make fun of you. 694 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 3: So the whole you know, we had probably I don't know, 695 00:39:26,079 --> 00:39:29,000 six or seven guys went out on a search party 696 00:39:29,119 --> 00:39:33,199 looking and they saw the cave. Everybody saw the cave, 697 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:39,800 all scratched out, and they all believed us. So that's 698 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:41,280 my story very short. 699 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:44,320 Speaker 1: That is awesome though, because I don't hear a lot 700 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,280 of Iowa stuff. What year was that again? 701 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,760 Speaker 3: This was like nineteen seventy five? 702 00:39:50,519 --> 00:39:54,119 Speaker 1: Oh wow, So yeah, there was something like that. There 703 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,760 was a ton of bigfoot stuff happening all over the 704 00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:02,440 place in Iowa in the mid to seventies, especially in 705 00:40:02,559 --> 00:40:08,159 like Raccoon River area, and that's up north. Yeah, yeah, exactly, 706 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:12,960 that's crazy man. And you said this was Portsmouth, Yeah, Portsmouth, Iowa. Wow. 707 00:40:14,679 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. 708 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,840 Speaker 1: So have you I've heard of maybe one other thing 709 00:40:19,079 --> 00:40:21,480 happening a little a little Westie and it was not 710 00:40:21,599 --> 00:40:24,199 in the seventies. Have you heard of other things happening 711 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:25,000 in that same area? 712 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:25,519 Speaker 4: No? 713 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 3: I never researched any ok, never just beginning to I'm 714 00:40:30,079 --> 00:40:30,440 just you know. 715 00:40:31,119 --> 00:40:35,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, fascinating stuff. I've never heard of anything happening in Portsmouth, 716 00:40:35,639 --> 00:40:38,119 so this is really cool to get it documented. 717 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,360 Speaker 3: Not in the trees, you know, we're just on the 718 00:40:40,559 --> 00:40:44,800 edge of the you know, the lowest hills. Yeah, but 719 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:49,159 I've spent all my upbringing in the lowest hills and 720 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,280 that's a pretty intense forest. 721 00:40:53,079 --> 00:40:56,320 Speaker 1: There is a book. Let me look it up real quick. 722 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:01,480 Just make sure I get the title for you if 723 00:41:01,559 --> 00:41:05,519 you want to what is it. It's right, Monsters of 724 00:41:05,559 --> 00:41:08,519 the Hawkeye State by David Weatherly, and it's got like 725 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:12,320 eighty pages of all the Bigfoot activity that's happened over 726 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,920 the years in Iowa. It's really good if you're wanting 727 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:17,880 to look into it. That's that's a really that's like 728 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,000 your one resource right now. So let's say that again 729 00:41:21,039 --> 00:41:25,440 with Monsters of the Hawkeye State by David Weatherly. Yep. 730 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:31,599 So it's a good one. It's good stuff. Thank you, 731 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,320 Thank you sir for sharing your experience. I appreciate it. 732 00:41:35,679 --> 00:41:35,920 Speaker 4: Thank you. 733 00:41:36,159 --> 00:41:42,800 Speaker 1: You have a great day you too. Before we wrap 734 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,159 this episode, I want to say something directly to a 735 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,440 very specific group of listeners. If you're in the military, 736 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,159 any branch or forces, and if you've seen something that 737 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,599 no one can explain, or if you're a National park ranger, 738 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,320 a forestry worker who's been told to stay quiet. If 739 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,880 you're a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground, 740 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,079 or if you're with the FBI a federal agency, or 741 00:42:06,159 --> 00:42:09,679 working intelligence and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed 742 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,719 to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or 743 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,360 search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found tracks 744 00:42:16,559 --> 00:42:19,519 that didn't make sense. If you're in the logging industry 745 00:42:20,519 --> 00:42:23,400 on a remote oil field, or a trucker with government 746 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:27,079 contracts and you've had something happen that you've never told 747 00:42:27,119 --> 00:42:30,719 a soul. And if you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist, 748 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,280 or a field researcher under contract who has found evidence 749 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:38,039 you're not allowed to report. If you're a pastor, a missionary, 750 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,320 or someone on a spiritual retreat and you saw something 751 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:45,800 that shook your faith, or if you work in the shadows, CIA, NSA, 752 00:42:46,119 --> 00:42:49,559 or anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't, 753 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,320 then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous. 754 00:42:56,199 --> 00:42:59,519 You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. 755 00:43:00,199 --> 00:43:02,559 The world needs to hear what you've been forced to 756 00:43:02,639 --> 00:43:07,360 carry alone, and you're not alone. You've got the story, 757 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:09,480 We've got. 758 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:09,840 Speaker 5: The mic. 759 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 1: See you in the woods. Thank you for listening to 760 00:43:13,559 --> 00:43:16,559 this episode of the Bigfoot Society Podcast. Every encounter we 761 00:43:16,639 --> 00:43:19,239 share reminds us that the world is bigger and stranger 762 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,119 than we think, and that the truth is often hiding 763 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,199 just beyond the tree line. If you enjoyed this episode, 764 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,079 please be sure to subscribe to the channel on YouTube 765 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,400 hit the bell so you don't miss the next episode, 766 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,400 and share this with a friend who's into mysteries, monsters, 767 00:43:33,639 --> 00:43:36,079 or the unexplained. 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