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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the deep dive. Today. We're really digging into

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<v Speaker 1>something fascinating the art, maybe the science of AI product development. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>We've looked at some great material from an expert in

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<v Speaker 1>the field, focusing on how you actually build AI that

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<v Speaker 1>delivers real business value. And our mission for you listening

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<v Speaker 1>is really to cuf through that complexity, give you the

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<v Speaker 1>tools to approach AI projects with let's say, ambition and clarity.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and what's so interesting is that AI, Well, it

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<v Speaker 2>feels a bit like science fiction sometimes, doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>It really does.

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<v Speaker 2>But the actual building blocks, they're becoming more and more accessible,

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<v Speaker 2>almost plug and play in some cases that there's a catch.

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<v Speaker 2>There's always a catch despite the promise, there's still a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of complexity, a lot of uncertainty.

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<v Speaker 1>So what we want to do today is show you

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<v Speaker 1>how to maybe sidestep the common pitfalls.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly learn on the job, but in a structured way.

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<v Speaker 2>We're drawing directly from the experiences laid out in the

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<v Speaker 2>material we reviewed.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so let's untack this first big question, why even

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<v Speaker 1>bother with an AI development project?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? The fundamental why.

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<v Speaker 1>The sources we looked at make a pretty bold claim here.

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<v Speaker 1>They say if your business offers digital products or services, well,

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<v Speaker 1>AI isn't just an option. It can enhance or even

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<v Speaker 1>totally transform what you do.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a big statement, but think about the scope refuining marketing,

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<v Speaker 2>automating customer support.

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<v Speaker 1>Adding smart search features, building completely new disruptive products.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe exactly. The potential is huge.

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<v Speaker 1>But and this is a big butt. It feels like

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<v Speaker 1>we hear about AI projects going sideways pretty often. Why

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<v Speaker 1>is that?

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<v Speaker 2>That's the crucial follow up question, isn't it? And the

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<v Speaker 2>sources definitely highlight some critical mistakes, like what Well, a

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<v Speaker 2>really common one is simply using AI for the sake

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<v Speaker 2>of AI, you know, building a cool tech solution that

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't actually solve a real problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Right the solution looking for a.

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<v Speaker 2>Precisely the material gives this example of financial analytics dashboard

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<v Speaker 2>already crowded with info. Okay, and the team decides haylo

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<v Speaker 2>out of chatbot. Why is because you know, jenai hype

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<v Speaker 2>is everywhere?

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<v Speaker 1>Ah okay? And how did that turn out? Because this

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<v Speaker 1>is where it gets.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting, right, it gets very interesting. The sources point out

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<v Speaker 2>that this team ended up creating more errors than actual insights. Ouch. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the chatbot just couldn't handle what users threw at it.

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<v Speaker 2>Requests were too complex, sometimes way off topic. People even

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<v Speaker 2>tried asking for investment advice it wasn't supposed to.

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<v Speaker 1>Give, so that really highlights some core problems.

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<v Speaker 2>Then, Absolutely, things like misaligned data the user needs just

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<v Speaker 2>weren't connected to the data the model was trained on.

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<v Speaker 1>Makes sense, and a lack.

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<v Speaker 2>Of guidance in the UI. You know, a simple chat

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<v Speaker 2>box invites basically anything, but the model couldn't cope.

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<v Speaker 1>And user expectations probably didn't help.

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<v Speaker 2>No, definitely not overblown user expectations fueled by you know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe flashy marketing images that promised more than the AI

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<v Speaker 2>could deliver.

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<v Speaker 1>So connecting this back, the big takeaway is you absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>need a clear opportunity, a real problem to.

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<v Speaker 2>Solve you got it, have to justifies the investment. The

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<v Speaker 2>sources propose this mental model for AI systems three core parts,

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<v Speaker 2>which are data intelligence that includes the AI models themselves,

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<v Speaker 2>and the user experience.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, data intelligence UX.

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<v Speaker 2>And all of that is constrained by and this is

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<v Speaker 2>crucial AI governance requirements. Can't forget those guardrails.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, governance is key. So using that model, how do

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<v Speaker 1>we actually find those good opportunities those high impact areas.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really about spotting where AI can significantly improve things

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<v Speaker 2>for the user. Let's take a music streaming app. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>users often get stuck in a rut, right, yeah, struggle

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<v Speaker 2>to find new music.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it happens to me all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>So AI powered recommendations there that could be a total

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<v Speaker 2>game changer. Boost engagement, help discovery.

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<v Speaker 1>Makes perfect sense. And the sources mentioned several types of

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<v Speaker 1>benefits AI can bring beyond just you know, shiny new features.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, definitely. It's not just about innovation. First up is.

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<v Speaker 1>Automation, okay, reducing manual work.

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<v Speaker 2>Cutting the cost of manual processors. Yeah, But the sources

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<v Speaker 2>emphasize this AI cost equation. It's not just building and

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<v Speaker 2>running the AI.

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<v Speaker 1>What else is in there?

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<v Speaker 2>You have to factor in the cost often overlooked of

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<v Speaker 2>finding and fixing the mistakes the AI makesh okay, and

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<v Speaker 2>the risk of mistakes you don't catch that could be significant.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a really important point about hidden costs. What's next

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<v Speaker 1>after automation.

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<v Speaker 2>Then there's improvement and augmentation. This is where AI supports

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<v Speaker 2>human creativity, doesn't replace it.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting like a copilot kind of Yeah, Yeah, The example

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<v Speaker 1>given is Miro, the whiteboarding software.

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<v Speaker 2>They use AI for brainstorming, diagramming, summarizing ideas. It plays

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<v Speaker 2>to both human strengths and AI strengths. Nice mortalization, adapting

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<v Speaker 2>the product to what each user needs, like that music

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<v Speaker 2>app learning your taste over.

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<v Speaker 1>Time, tailoring playlists to my mood. I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, But you need to be realistic. Good personalization it needs.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of data, and bad personal is you can.

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<v Speaker 2>Really push users away. Privacy concerns too.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously true, Okay, any others.

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<v Speaker 2>One more convenience, just making things easier, reducing friction. Think

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<v Speaker 2>of an AI search that anticipates what you're looking for.

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<v Speaker 1>Get see the answer faster. Yeah, I can see the

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<v Speaker 1>value there.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>So. The sources also talk about two different ways to

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<v Speaker 1>actually launch these AI products, two strategic approaches.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. It really depends on the situation. The stakes.

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<v Speaker 2>First is the careful approach, think ready, aim.

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<v Speaker 1>Fire, so lots of planning upfront.

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<v Speaker 2>Loads of it SORO research validation before you commit to

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<v Speaker 2>significant development. This is for when the cost of failure

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<v Speaker 2>is really high, like healthcare. Perfect example, health tech company

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<v Speaker 2>building a diagnostic feature, you'd need to rigorously check, user impact, feasibility,

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<v Speaker 2>business value regulations, everything you can't afford to get it wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>And the other approach, that's the fast approach, ready fire aim.

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<v Speaker 1>So build something quickly and see what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty much, get a prototype out there fast, get real

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<v Speaker 2>world feedback almost immediately, like.

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<v Speaker 1>The music recommendation feature we talked about.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly like that. Yeah, speed is key, Failing fast is

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<v Speaker 2>okay if the initial costs are low and maybe the

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<v Speaker 2>market's crowded. Yeah, you learn by doing.

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<v Speaker 1>And that fits well with how AI models are developed right,

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<v Speaker 1>iteratively perfectly.

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<v Speaker 2>It lets you reduce that uncertainty step by step based

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<v Speaker 2>on how real users interact with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, great, so we know YAI, how to find opportunities,

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<v Speaker 1>different ways to launch. Let's get into the actual building blocks.

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<v Speaker 1>The sources call it the AI solution space.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the term they use yet data, intelligence and user experience.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start with data, the fuel for the AI.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely described as the fuel. It's the raw material for training,

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<v Speaker 2>for fine tuning, for evaluating everything.

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<v Speaker 1>And it comes in different forms the.

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<v Speaker 2>Forms textual data, needing NLP, visual data, auditory data, sensorimotor

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<v Speaker 2>data for robotics, self driving cars, even computer code itself

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<v Speaker 2>like for get Up Copilot.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Okay, broad range, very.

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<v Speaker 2>Broad but the absolute crucial point, and the sources hammer

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<v Speaker 2>this home. Data quality directly drives output.

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<v Speaker 1>Quality, garbage and garbage out.

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<v Speaker 2>Essentially, that's the classic saying, and it's never been truer

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<v Speaker 2>than with AI. The quality of your data dictates the

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<v Speaker 2>value you can provide. Period, got it?

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<v Speaker 1>And how does the AI actually learn from this data?

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<v Speaker 1>The sources mention different types of learning, right.

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<v Speaker 2>They distinguish between unsupervised learning and supervised learning.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what's the difference.

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<v Speaker 2>Unsupervised learning is about exploring the data, finding hidden patterns

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<v Speaker 2>structures like clustering users into segments based on their behavior

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<v Speaker 2>without knowing the segments.

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<v Speaker 1>Beforehand, so letting the data speak for itself in a way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it helps uncover insights you might not expect. Then

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<v Speaker 2>supervised learning is different. You train the model with labeled data.

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<v Speaker 1>So you tell it what the right answer is, for example, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>You give it examples with known outcomes, so it learns

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<v Speaker 2>to classify new unseen data, think predicting customer churn or

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<v Speaker 2>segmenting users based on predefined criteria.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, unsupervised for exploring supervised for predicting or classifying based

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<v Speaker 1>on known labels makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>And underlying all this data use, of course, are ethics,

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<v Speaker 2>user privacy, data minimization, consent. These are non.

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<v Speaker 1>Negotiable absolutely so data is the fuel. What about the

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<v Speaker 1>intelligence part of that model?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, the AI itself. The sources break this down into

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<v Speaker 2>three main types. First, predictive AI. Sometime it's called analytical AI.

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<v Speaker 1>What does that do?

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<v Speaker 2>It focuses on well defined tasks analyzing data to make

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<v Speaker 1>Problems like sentiment analysis.

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<v Speaker 2>Perfect example, taking unstructured text like product reviews and turning

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<v Speaker 2>it into a structured output like a numeric sentiment score.

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<v Speaker 1>But humans still need to figure out why people feel

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<v Speaker 1>that way exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>The AI gives you the what, but humans often need

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<v Speaker 2>to interpret the why and decide what to do about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. Type number two.

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<v Speaker 2>Generative AI or GENAI. This is what everyone's.

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<v Speaker 1>Talking about, creating new content.

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<v Speaker 2>Precisely text, images, video code, even things like chemical structures

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<v Speaker 2>for drug discovery. It's reshaping whole industries.

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<v Speaker 1>How does it work? Fundamentally?

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<v Speaker 2>It essentially combines existing information in new, often unexpected ways.

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<v Speaker 2>It's learned patterns from vast data sets and can generate

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<v Speaker 2>novel outputs based on prompts. It can even do surprisingly

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<v Speaker 2>well on things like you know, standardized tests.

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<v Speaker 1>Impressive and the third.

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<v Speaker 2>Type AGENTIC AI, This is maybe the next frontier. This

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<v Speaker 2>is where AI doesn't just predict or generate.

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<v Speaker 1>It acts acts how so it changes.

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<v Speaker 2>The state of the world. These agents combine language models

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<v Speaker 2>with external tools think APIs, databases, functions.

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<v Speaker 1>So they can interact with other systems.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and they can reason, plan and learn from those interactions.

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<v Speaker 2>The example given is like a product management agent doing

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<v Speaker 2>what imagine it updating a project roadmap, automatically analyzing transcripts

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<v Speaker 2>from sales, calls for insights, even drafting communications to stakeholders,

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<v Speaker 2>all autonomously.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. That's that's a significant step up.

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<v Speaker 2>It really is. It implies a much higher degree of autonomy.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so we have data and these three types of

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<v Speaker 1>intelligence predictive, generative AGENTIC. What about the third piece, user experience?

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<v Speaker 1>How is UX different for AI?

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<v Speaker 2>That's a great question, because it is different traditional software.

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<v Speaker 2>It's deterministic, you click a button, the same thing happens

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<v Speaker 2>every time, right. Predictable AI not so much. It's inherently uncertain.

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<v Speaker 2>It can make mistakes, it can hallucinate, make things up.

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<v Speaker 1>So the UI has to account for that uncertainty exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>It needs to be designed with unpredictability and potential failure

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<v Speaker 2>baked in. How do you do that well? The sources

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<v Speaker 2>suggests things like showing confidence scores, like next to AI

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<v Speaker 1>So the user knows how much to trust it precisely.

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<v Speaker 2>It helps calibray trust. Another idea is footprints, ways to

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<v Speaker 2>prompt to this result? That builds transparence.

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<v Speaker 1>That transparency seems key. The source has had a good example,

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<v Speaker 2>generating a draft report instead of just a generic spinner, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it shows a progress window explaining what the AI is doing,

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<v Speaker 1>Et cetera, keeping the user informed.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, and then the draft report itself. It uses those

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<v Speaker 2>confidence scores color coded green for high confidence, yellow for HM.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe double check this bit that really empowers the user,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't it. It shows them where their expertise is needed.

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<v Speaker 2>It absolutely does. It's about collaboration, not just automation.

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<v Speaker 1>And there was this idea of rethinking friction. Sometimes making

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, fascinating concept. Instead of making everything seamless. Sometimes you

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<v Speaker 2>introduce intentional disruptions like what like maybe the AI flags

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<v Speaker 1>Why would you do that?

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<v Speaker 2>It can active the user, make them more engaged, and

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<v Speaker 2>fight against that tendency to just blindly trust the AI,

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<v Speaker 2>what they call automation bias.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting, So deliberately slowing things down sometimes to improve the outcome.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly counterintuitive but potentially very effective.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you've got your data, your intelligence type, your

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<v Speaker 1>UX designed for uncertainty. Now how do you make the

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<v Speaker 1>AI model itself smarter, more specific to your needs?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? Customization? The sources detail three main ways to customize

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<v Speaker 1>What's the starting point?

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<v Speaker 2>Prompt engineering? This is your entry point, the most accessible way.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all about crafting effective instructions.

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<v Speaker 1>It's telling the model what you want more clearly.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty much, you guide the model without having to actually

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<v Speaker 1>Style like write in an authoritative, professional.

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<v Speaker 2>Tone exactly or use a friendly, approachable voice. Small changes

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<v Speaker 1>And there are different techniques within prompt engineering.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, there's basic zero shot prompting just input output,

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<v Speaker 1>Analogy, learning by example, right, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Then more advanced stuff like guiding its reasoning step by step,

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<v Speaker 1>The best one, asking it to critique itself.

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<v Speaker 2>Even yeah, that reflection technique, asking the LM to review

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<v Speaker 2>and improve its own output. Lots you can do just

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<v Speaker 1>But prompts have limits. I assume they.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely do, especially when you need the AI to use specific,

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<v Speaker 2>up to date or proprietary information. That's where the second

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<v Speaker 2>technique comes in. Retrieval augmented generation.

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<v Speaker 1>Or RAG ray. Okay, what does that do?

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<v Speaker 2>This is really powerful. Our RAGE lets the AI dynamically

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<v Speaker 1>Like your company's internal database or recent articles.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, internal databases, articles, meeting notes, whatever you connect it to.

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<v Speaker 2>It pulls that relevant info in at the time of

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, so it's not just relying on its initial training data.

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<v Speaker 2>Precisely. This is crucial for factual accuracy, especially with rapidly

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<v Speaker 2>changing information, and for tailoring responses using your own private data.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that content generation app example, pulling in client case studies.

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<v Speaker 2>Perfect example, And importantly, RA significantly reduces those hallucinations.

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<v Speaker 1>Because it's grounding its answers in real retrieved information.

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<v Speaker 2>You got it. It has specific texts to base its

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so prompt engineering first, then RA for external knowledge.

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<v Speaker 1>What if that's still not enough, then.

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<v Speaker 2>You move to the third most involved technique, fine tuning.

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<v Speaker 1>Fine tuning the model itself.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, this is for when the base LM just fundamentally

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<v Speaker 2>lacks intrinsic understanding of your domain and brand voice.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the example the content app struggling with really niche

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<v Speaker 1>B to B sauce topics exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Prompting and roged might help, but maybe the core model

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<v Speaker 2>just doesn't get the nuance, the specific terminology, the required style.

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<v Speaker 1>So fine tuning trains it on that specific stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. You take the base model and further train it

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<v Speaker 2>on your own proprietary data, your past successful content. Your

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<v Speaker 1>Jargon, so it really internalizes your specific domain and voice.

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<v Speaker 2>Deeply internalize it. It moves beyond just retrieving facts. It

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<v Speaker 2>learns the style, the nuance, the perspective. There's also instruction

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<v Speaker 2>fine tuning, which is interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>How does that work?

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<v Speaker 2>The model adapts more dynamically based on direct user feedback

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<v Speaker 2>learns from that specific instruction for future tasks, makes it

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<v Speaker 2>more responsive.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, three levels prompting our rag fine tuning a clear

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<v Speaker 1>progression in complexity and capability.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good way to put it.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, we've talked a lot about the tech, but building

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<v Speaker 1>these products, it's not just code and models, is it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about people?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Absolutely, central. The sources really emphasize this. AI teams

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<v Speaker 2>are almost by definition diverse and interdisciplinary.

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<v Speaker 1>You need lots of different skills.

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<v Speaker 2>You do software engineers, data scientists, UX designers, crucially, domain

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<v Speaker 2>experts who actually understand the area the AI is working in.

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<v Speaker 1>And the product manager what's their role in this mix?

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<v Speaker 2>The PM becomes almost an educator and a translator. They

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<v Speaker 2>have to bridge these different worldviews, different technical languages, different.

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<v Speaker 1>Goals, balancing the tech possibilities with the user needs and

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<v Speaker 2>Goals, and reconciling priorities between all these different stakeholders. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a complex coordination role, especially.

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<v Speaker 1>As we said, with all the uncertainty involved, how do

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<v Speaker 1>you manage that the potential for failure.

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<v Speaker 2>This brings us back squarely to AI governance. The sources

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<v Speaker 2>spend a lot of time on this, and rightly so

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<v Speaker 2>it's paramount.

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<v Speaker 1>What does governance cover specifically in AI?

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<v Speaker 2>Several critical areas. First, security, protecting.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole system against what kind of threats, things.

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<v Speaker 2>Like data poisoning at attackers feeding bad examples to mess

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<v Speaker 2>up the training data, data exiltration and leakage sensitive information

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<v Speaker 2>getting out maybe through prompts or model outputs insecure output handling.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine the AI generating harmful code like a delete database

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<v Speaker 2>query when it should have done a select and even

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<v Speaker 2>model theft attackers trying to steal or replicate your valuable

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<v Speaker 1>So security is multifaceted.

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<v Speaker 2>What else under governance privacy by design, building privacy and

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<v Speaker 2>from the start, not bolting it on later.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Proactive risk assessments, making privacy the default setting, ensuring end

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<v Speaker 2>to end security for data, and being transparent with users

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<v Speaker 2>about how their data is used.

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<v Speaker 1>Transparency again seems vital it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Then there's mitigating bias. This is huge. AI models can

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<v Speaker 2>easily pick up and even amplify existing societal biases present

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<v Speaker 1>So how do you fight that?

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<v Speaker 2>Strategies include things like data audits, carefully examining your training

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<v Speaker 2>data for imbalances, maybe using tools like fair learn and

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<v Speaker 2>algorithmic bias mitigation techniques, trying to make the model itself fairer,

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<v Speaker 2>and explaining its decisions.

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<v Speaker 1>Explaining decisions That sounds like the next part exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Transparency and accountability, providing explainability, understanding how the AI reached

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<v Speaker 2>a decision, and interpretability making the outputs understandable and actionable.

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<v Speaker 1>For humans and keeping humans involved.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, establishing human in the loop or human on the

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<v Speaker 2>loop processes, especially for high risk decisions, ensuring a human

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<v Speaker 2>can always intervene, review, or override the AI.

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<v Speaker 1>So governance is really about building trust and safety around

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<v Speaker 2>That's a perfect summary. It's the essential foundation.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. So with all that complexity, the tech, the teams,

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<v Speaker 1>the governance, how do you effectively communicate the value of

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<v Speaker 1>AI experts.

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<v Speaker 2>Great question, The sources stress being concrete. Articulate the value

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<v Speaker 2>in tangible terms.

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<v Speaker 1>So instead of just saying it boosts sufficiency.

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<v Speaker 2>Quantify it for efficiency and productivity. Show the time saved.

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<v Speaker 2>The example they used was brilliant. Our platform automates data aggregation,

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<v Speaker 2>saving your team eighteen point three to three hours.

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<v Speaker 1>Per week, okay, specific and.

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<v Speaker 2>Then translate that into cost savings. That's equivalent to nearly

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<v Speaker 2>forty seven, six and fifty eight dollars annually. Numbers make

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<v Speaker 1>That definitely makes it easier to understand the ROI. What

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<v Speaker 1>about communicating well the inevitable failures?

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<v Speaker 2>Ah? Yes, communicating about failure. This is critical for managing

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<v Speaker 2>expectations and building trust.

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<v Speaker 1>So don't hide the mistakes.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely not be realistic, the sources say. Instead of pretending

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<v Speaker 2>engineers can eliminate all errors, you need to be upfront

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<v Speaker 2>about the types of mistakes.

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<v Speaker 1>The AI will make like what kinds of mistakes.

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<v Speaker 2>They list common ones, false positives, predicting something that doesn't happen,

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<v Speaker 2>like a sales spike, false negatives, missing something important like

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<v Speaker 2>the impact of a flash sale, right, ambiguity or misinterpretation,

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<v Speaker 2>just misunderstanding the input, bias in the outputs due to

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<v Speaker 2>biased data and of course hallucinations the AI making things up.

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<v Speaker 1>So you name the potential problems.

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<v Speaker 2>You name them, you're transparent about maybe how often they occur,

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<v Speaker 2>and crucially, you explain how you're working to continuously improve

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<v Speaker 1>So it reframes mistakes not as disasters, but as part

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<v Speaker 1>of the ongoing learning process exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>It builds trust, manages expectations, and can even enlist users

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<v Speaker 2>in helping to improve the AI collaboratively.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a really insightful way to handle it. Okay, we've

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<v Speaker 1>covered a lot of ground here. Looking back over this

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<v Speaker 1>deep dive, what really stands out to you?

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<v Speaker 2>For me, I think it's that successful AI product development

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<v Speaker 2>is this constant interplay, this dance, as you called it,

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<v Speaker 2>between ambition and clarity. It's about having big ideas but

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<v Speaker 2>also having a systematic way to tackle all the inherent

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<v Speaker 2>uncertainty whether that's through really good data practices, careful model selection,

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<v Speaker 2>designing that user experience thoughtfully for.

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<v Speaker 1>Uncertain robust govern in someplace is exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>It confirms the journey isn't really about achieving perfection right

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<v Speaker 2>out of the gate. It's about that continuous improvement, that

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<v Speaker 2>iterative learning, getting better step by step.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree. My main takeaway is maybe connecting that back

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<v Speaker 1>to trust. By understanding all these nuances we discussed avoiding

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<v Speaker 1>the AI for AI's sake trap, knowing when to use

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<v Speaker 1>RAG versus fine tuning, being transparent about failures, You're not

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<v Speaker 1>just building a product.

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<v Speaker 2>You're building trust with your users, with your stakeholders. That

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<v Speaker 2>feels fundamental, It really does.

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<v Speaker 1>Which leaves us and you listening with maybe a final

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<v Speaker 1>thought to ponder.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I question, maybe in what part of your own

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<v Speaker 2>work or even your life, could you apply this kind

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<v Speaker 2>of systematic deep dive approach to understanding and maybe leveraging AI.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you did that deep dive, what unexpected insights,

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<v Speaker 1>what little nuggets might you uncover along the way
