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Speaker 5: Welcome my friends to the Memorial Day edition of Bosnerles
Speaker 5: Rush Hour, fastest hour in American media, and here we
Speaker 5: are on I'm looking at an article as we speak.
Speaker 5: Ladies and gentlemen, here's why you shouldn't say Happy Memorial Day,
Speaker 5: in which you should say instead. In the proclamation today,
Speaker 5: President Trump said, Memorial Day is a day to honor
Speaker 5: American heroes and especially remember the thirteen service members of
Speaker 5: the Joint Force who lost their lives in the.
Speaker 2: War with Iran.
Speaker 5: All Americans inherit the glorious gift of liberty that has
Speaker 5: been purchased with the spilled blood of brave warriors and
Speaker 5: the tears and heartache of those they left behind, says
Speaker 5: the Memorial Day Proclamation issued by President Trump. It is
Speaker 5: fitting and necessary for our nation to pause for an
Speaker 5: annual reminder of the enduring and perilously high cost of freedom.
Speaker 5: But the immeasurable gravity of what has been sacrificed for
Speaker 5: the greater good deserves our eternal reverence and unwavering gratitude
Speaker 5: every day. And I could not agree with those sentiments more.
Speaker 5: Joining us on this Memorial Day, He's here with us
Speaker 5: on most American holidays is our official historian Dean Carrianis,
Speaker 5: who is colleague of mine for the many years we
Speaker 5: were with Russ Lombaud. Deane, of course, runs a website
Speaker 5: head honcho of a website calledhistoryauthor dot com. He is
Speaker 5: an author himself established author. He is a columnist with
Speaker 5: The New York Sun and you can find his columns
Speaker 5: floating roundabout in cyberspace in many places as people repost them.
Speaker 5: Always interesting columns from Dean Carrianis. Besides that, he's an
Speaker 5: author of other things as well. Cuisine Greek Cuisine, one
Speaker 5: of my favorite books from Dean explores the fascination that
Speaker 5: we all have with beautiful tasting delicacies from Greece. Dean, welcome,
Speaker 5: and since we I'm not supposed to say Happy Memorial Day,
Speaker 5: let us just acknowledge this day of remembrance and we're
Speaker 5: glad to have you here for it.
Speaker 2: How are you, Dean, I'm okay.
Speaker 1: I'm always better after your introduction. I've never been called
Speaker 1: a hanjo before.
Speaker 2: Good. I like that head honcho. Yeah, well, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm working out. My wife is the head ancho work.
Speaker 1: I'm working my way up to the associate An. We'll
Speaker 1: see how things go.
Speaker 2: Love it.
Speaker 5: Let's talk for a moment about Memorial Day, and then
Speaker 5: I'm going to ask you about some of the things
Speaker 5: in the news. Dean, since we're here and since there
Speaker 5: is news going on, we have some audio bites that
Speaker 5: we'll get into as well. Walk us through the history,
Speaker 5: mister historian, of Memorial Day in our country.
Speaker 1: It begins as I don't know, I guess you'd call
Speaker 1: it spontaneous or being generated. At the same time, it's
Speaker 1: not much of a tradition. It's people decorating graves, which
Speaker 1: is something that we still do today. And that people
Speaker 1: have always done, human beings have always done. But then
Speaker 1: the Civil War, of course, the death toll is so huge.
Speaker 1: There's so many dead that various places in the country. Waterloo,
Speaker 1: New York, plans to be the first place, the birthplace.
Speaker 1: In eighteen sixty six, they set aside a specific day
Speaker 1: that everyone will go to these graves and will decorate
Speaker 1: them boats for Pennsylvania did a similar thing in eighteen
Speaker 1: sixty four in Charleston where there were many of the
Speaker 1: black soldiers. There was over one hundred and eighty thousand
Speaker 1: that people forget served in the army then and they
Speaker 1: have a parade, they begin decorating the graves. And then
Speaker 1: the Grand Army of the Republic, which was the big
Speaker 1: Union veterans organization after the Civil War, in eighteen sixty eight,
Speaker 1: they declare a single decoration day, say let's go do
Speaker 1: this for all the graves, and they had a women's
Speaker 1: auxiliary and they go out and start doing it, and
Speaker 1: it carries on that way until believe it or not,
Speaker 1: really recently eighteen seventy one, I mean, I'm sorry. Nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy one is the first time that it's set firmly
Speaker 1: for the last Monday in May, which is today, which
Speaker 1: is why we celebrated today. So it's one of those
Speaker 1: interesting things that kind of reflects the Civil War. Before
Speaker 1: the Civil War, historians like to say this kind of
Speaker 1: really smart, clever sounding phrase, but it's true that the
Speaker 1: United States people said are and today we say the
Speaker 1: United States is made it a nation. So you had
Speaker 1: a bunch of different states that were all competing. This
Speaker 1: happened with Thanksgiving in World War Two. FDR wanted to
Speaker 1: move it earlier to make the Christmas season longer because
Speaker 1: that was one of his ideas to fight the Great Depression,
Speaker 1: make people shop more, and the Republican States said, no,
Speaker 1: we're keeping Thanksgiving work. So it's been and gradually over
Speaker 1: all that time, and it's a reflection in the small
Speaker 1: way of the sacrifice of those soldiers and our universal
Speaker 1: respect for them as Americans. That eventually becomes just a
Speaker 1: single day where we look at them and we remember
Speaker 1: what they sacrificed. And I know people offer confuse it
Speaker 1: with Veterans Day, and it's not the same. And it
Speaker 1: shouldn't also be a day that we jump on people.
Speaker 1: If somebody says happy Memorial Day, that they're just maybe
Speaker 1: trying to correct us, even though I'm listening very intensely
Speaker 1: for someone to make that misstep by trying not to
Speaker 1: pounce on them, because every time you do that, it's
Speaker 1: an opportunity to discuss with somebody something like the Great
Speaker 1: War or the War in the Philippines, wars that maybe
Speaker 1: we'd rather not talk about, that we forget about the
Speaker 1: Mexican American War. And so eventually this one day was
Speaker 1: set aside for all of those. There's one nation to
Speaker 1: come together and remember the sacrifice of the people who
Speaker 1: gave everything. In the case of the unknown Soldier and
Speaker 1: all those like them, everything even their names. They gave
Speaker 1: that all of their tomorrows, everything they ever had or
Speaker 1: would have. So that's how Memorial Day comes to be.
Speaker 1: This really say, grid holiday today is that remark on
Speaker 1: the daily.
Speaker 2: But yesterday.
Speaker 5: There is a story today about a World War two
Speaker 5: speech that was made by David Yoho, ninety seven years old,
Speaker 5: a merchant marine who enlisted when he was just sixteen
Speaker 5: years old. And one of the things that he said
Speaker 5: is tell them about veterans and say to them that
Speaker 5: we gave up our yesterdays for your tomorrow. We gave
Speaker 5: up our yesterdays for your tomorrows. And if they say
Speaker 5: to you, who did you hear speak those words, tell
Speaker 5: them it was a sixteen year old boy in the
Speaker 5: heart and mind and body of a ninety eight year
Speaker 5: old veteran of World War Two. Just beautiful and profound.
Speaker 5: And I am I am happy that at least there
Speaker 5: is this remembrance that happens on this day. You when
Speaker 5: you said fairly recently, and you when you just said
Speaker 5: that in the seventies, how it changed. It kind of
Speaker 5: jarred me for a moment, because I remember, I'm old
Speaker 5: enough to remember when Memorial Day was celebrated on the
Speaker 5: thirtieth of every every May, and I remember when it
Speaker 5: was changed over too, and people there were there some
Speaker 5: people were not happy at the time that it was
Speaker 5: being changed to a Monday, because no matter what day
Speaker 5: it was, whether however whatever day it fell on the thirtieth,
Speaker 5: that was the day, and a lot of people wanted
Speaker 5: to keep that tradition because they thought it just it
Speaker 5: didn't just become another four day weekend or another of
Speaker 5: whatever with's a Monday being off. They liked the idea
Speaker 5: of Memorial Day being recognized on whatever day of the week.
Speaker 2: It fell on and do you have any thoughts about that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tom Magazine wrote a year later, as I was
Speaker 1: looking back and researching some of the evolution of Memorial Day,
Speaker 1: they wrote that a three day nationwide hoot nanny is
Speaker 1: a word you don't hear much anymore unless you are
Speaker 1: a real fan of old Zell Miller clips. Maybe making
Speaker 1: it a three day nationwide hoot nanny seems to have
Speaker 1: lost much of its original purpose. And I could see that.
Speaker 1: But then again, if it was in the middle of
Speaker 1: the week, maybe we would have less of the parades.
Speaker 1: We would have fewer. Rather of the parades, you would
Speaker 1: have less remembrance because people wouldn't have that longer weekend
Speaker 1: to really commemorate it. For instance, in my little town
Speaker 1: that I live in, New Jersey, the parade is rained
Speaker 1: out one day. You're able to have it on another day.
Speaker 1: And those may seem like small things, but those parades
Speaker 1: mean so much to the veterans, even though this isn't
Speaker 1: Veterans Day. I understand that very well. But I've spoken
Speaker 1: to a lot of veterans for the history author show.
Speaker 1: One gentleman who you made me think of there was
Speaker 1: at Pearl Harbor he lost so many of his friends
Speaker 1: aboard the USS West Virginia. I interviewed him when he
Speaker 1: was one hundred and three years old. The oldest man
Speaker 1: to ever publish a book was Lieutenant Jim Downing, and
Speaker 1: he mark momorrow they're remembering his friends, and we should
Speaker 1: remember that those veterans and military families that had that
Speaker 1: empty chair at the dinner table every year, the children's espouses.
Speaker 1: This is a day for us to those of us
Speaker 1: were fortunate enough not to have that immediate connection, that
Speaker 1: didn't suffer that loss, that didn't watch our comrade, our
Speaker 1: friend from our town, if so many did in the
Speaker 1: Great War, whole towns everyone you knew, all the guys
Speaker 1: would go off to war together and maybe you were
Speaker 1: the only one who survived. So I think that that's
Speaker 1: something that the longer weekend maybe give us time to
Speaker 1: reflect and think about that in a way that it
Speaker 1: just doesn't if it fell in the middle of the week.
Speaker 1: So I preferred look at it with a little bit
Speaker 1: of a sunny spin.
Speaker 5: I guess that we have here and you know, one
Speaker 5: of our and I don't have permission to use his name,
Speaker 5: but one of our workmates from the Russlan Law program
Speaker 5: reflected with us and we would talk about it inside
Speaker 5: the studio with him. He never met his grandfather. His
Speaker 5: grandfather was one of those who gave his life in
Speaker 5: World War Two, and so he was not a He
Speaker 5: never met his grandfather and the family. It was so
Speaker 5: significant for them when they got a chance to go
Speaker 5: to Normandy and see the marker the grave of his
Speaker 5: grandfather there, it was, it was. It's an emotional thing.
Speaker 5: And for those that served with fallen service members, absolutely,
Speaker 5: this is a day that means so much to those veterans,
Speaker 5: whose friends, whose buddies, in some cases people that saved
Speaker 5: their lives perish so that they could survive the horrors
Speaker 5: of war. It is a really deep and emotional thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I can't imagine going there and having that
Speaker 1: circ connection. I only small comparison I have is one
Speaker 1: of my cousins who I never met. Also, i'd seen
Speaker 1: him all my life. He's this big paint, this big
Speaker 1: painting of him in my great aunt's house, and we
Speaker 1: used to hear stories about him and that he fought
Speaker 1: at the Battle of the Bulls and they never covered
Speaker 1: his remains. And then my great uncle went searching Europe
Speaker 1: after the war for his son, convinced he's been taken
Speaker 1: as a pow, and there was a little park named
Speaker 1: in the town after him. But the thing that really
Speaker 1: brings it home is one day I see a picture
Speaker 1: of him when I'm well, he was much younger than me,
Speaker 1: which are ridiculous. He think I was young. All these
Speaker 1: soldiers always are. This guy's nineteen twenty twenty one. I
Speaker 1: think twenty one was the average age storming Normandy, and
Speaker 1: they called him, well, he was a sergeant's sergeant, Petros
Speaker 1: two gun Pete Loysides. And I look at a picture
Speaker 1: of when I reached that age and it was so
Speaker 1: similar to how I look that it kind of gave
Speaker 1: me a chill. And I'm thinking, that's what connects you
Speaker 1: to it. And when you go to the grave and
Speaker 1: you see your name on that gravestone as you were
Speaker 1: speaking about one of our former rough colleagues, you connect
Speaker 1: with it in a different way. And to have a
Speaker 1: day that maybe you reach somebody who doesn't think they
Speaker 1: have a part in the American story, who doesn't think
Speaker 1: that they're connected to somebody who tho they die before
Speaker 1: I was born. Maybe they're just a dusty black and
Speaker 1: white photograph in a photo album. This holiday is really
Speaker 1: to invite everybody into that family, to remind everybody that
Speaker 1: we're their posterity and that we carry a burden. Therefore,
Speaker 1: to make this that more perfect union that the Founders
Speaker 1: wrote about, and even the Founding generation that's my colin
Speaker 1: today and the New York Sun, we're still finding Revolutionary
Speaker 1: War soldiers that are buried under houses that are excavated
Speaker 1: when people dig out for the foundations of buildings, they
Speaker 1: never got the barrel they observed. And I think it's
Speaker 1: so beautiful. It's such a great thing about Americans that
Speaker 1: we still give them an honored burial even when we
Speaker 1: find them at this Greek dan.
Speaker 2: That is wonderful.
Speaker 5: Hold on, Dean, please, Dean carry Onis is with us
Speaker 5: on this Memorial Day.
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Speaker 4: The James Golden Show Entertaining and Informative on the Red
Speaker 4: Apple Podcast Network, and on this Memorial Day.
Speaker 5: Pope Leo has called Pope Leo the fourteenth has called
Speaker 5: for AI to be disarmed. But that's not all he did.
Speaker 5: Let us listen to some of his words.
Speaker 6: Here is the Pope artificial intelligence needs to be disarmed.
Speaker 6: The word is strong, I know, but deliberately chosen because
Speaker 6: this moment needs words capable of attracting attention, awakening consciences,
Speaker 6: and indicating paths forward for humanity. The Church has long
Speaker 6: been working for nuclear disarmament, aware that every great technical
Speaker 6: power can affect people's lives, and so must be accompanied
Speaker 6: by adequate moral discernment and public control. Nuclear disarmament remains
Speaker 6: a service to peace and the dignity of the human family.
Speaker 6: In a similar sense, artificial intelligence now demands to be disarmed,
Speaker 6: freed from logics that turn it into an instrument of domination, exclusion,
Speaker 6: and death. Like nuclear energy, it must be at the
Speaker 6: service of all and of the common goal.
Speaker 5: These are strong words during carry andis is with us
Speaker 5: sting When we get back from the next break, I
Speaker 5: want to talk about that. But the Pope also did
Speaker 5: something else. He made a historic apology for the Vatican's
Speaker 5: role in legitimizing slavery, and this I think is huge.
Speaker 5: Past popes have apologized for Christian's involvement in the Transatlantic
Speaker 5: slave trade, but no pope has ever publicly acknowledged, much
Speaker 5: less apologize for the role that pass pontiffs have played
Speaker 5: in giving European sovereign's explicit authority to subjugate and inslave infidels.
Speaker 5: That is what the Associated Press says of it. Jan
Speaker 5: Carrie Andis is here and he and I going to
Speaker 5: talk about this when we get back.
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Speaker 5: James Goldlin's thirdly Dean Carry analysis was us Dean the Pope.
Speaker 5: You heard the quote on AI and we have other
Speaker 5: things to talk about American politics, but I do want
Speaker 5: to spend a few moments on this. The Pope says
Speaker 5: that it's impossible not to feel deep sorrow when contemplating
Speaker 5: the immense suffering and humiliation endured by so many speaking
Speaker 5: of people that were in slavery, and they is He's
Speaker 5: apologized for the Catholic Church's role in slavery, which is
Speaker 5: a profound role and not many people know the history
Speaker 5: of that. For instance, in fourteen fifty two, Pope Nicholas
Speaker 5: the fifth issue the paper Bold the Devices which gave
Speaker 5: the Portuguese king and his successors the right to invade conqueror, fight, subjugate,
Speaker 5: take all possessions, including land of Saracens, Pagans, and other
Speaker 5: infidels and enemies in the name of Christ. The Bull
Speaker 5: also gave Portuguese permission to reduce their persons to perpetual slavery.
Speaker 5: Three years later, Romanace Pontifics had the doctrine of discovery.
Speaker 5: It legitimized the colonial area of the colonial era, seizure
Speaker 5: of land in Africa and in the Americas, and it
Speaker 5: goes on and on this history, and the Pope today
Speaker 5: issued an apology for all of this. Do you think
Speaker 5: historical apologies mean something, Dean? And how do you how
Speaker 5: do you look at these sorts of hologies for things
Speaker 5: that happened now centuries ago.
Speaker 1: Well, I think it can do good if it's followed
Speaker 1: with action. And I'm wondering if in four hundred years, say,
Speaker 1: is a pope canna apologize for this pope Pope Leo
Speaker 1: going to Algeria, going to Algiers. And there's what I think.
Speaker 1: I wrote the number down eighty four thousand slaves in
Speaker 1: Algeria right now, not a word from the Pope goes
Speaker 1: to all of these Arab countries and African countries where
Speaker 1: there's still slavery. There's seven million people held in forms
Speaker 1: of slavery today in Africa, so when I hear it,
Speaker 1: it just seems empty. It's one thing if you're gonna apologize,
Speaker 1: and we all know this from our relationships, right I
Speaker 1: apologize to my wife for doing something wrong, which I
Speaker 1: do often, probably not as often as I should, and
Speaker 1: then I just keep doing that thing, and it's not
Speaker 1: really a sincere apology. So I think if you're apologizing
Speaker 1: on behalf of for instance, in that case, I guess
Speaker 1: we're talking about the Iberians, the Spanish peninsula there and
Speaker 1: the Portuguese and what they did in South and Central
Speaker 1: America and much of North America, then I could see
Speaker 1: that connecting. If there's also an effort to make amend
Speaker 1: and to avoid repeating the same mistakes and we ignore.
Speaker 1: And I don't say this just as a rhetorical point
Speaker 1: or to own the Libs, as people like to do.
Speaker 1: But I'm so thankful for my life and the freedom
Speaker 1: we have in America. And I think of our Archbishop
Speaker 1: Jakobos who marched in Selma with doctor Martin Luci King
Speaker 1: and he said, I'm going because when I was raised
Speaker 1: in Turkey. I wasn't even a third class citizen. And
Speaker 1: it's the obligation of every free person to speak out
Speaker 1: when somebody's being denied their liberty. And so when I
Speaker 1: see this from the pope, and I don't know, you
Speaker 1: can be a pope repundit the way I look at it,
Speaker 1: unless you're gonna do something concrete, unless you're gonna spend
Speaker 1: some of that gold that you have there in the Vatican.
Speaker 1: I don't know what point it serves other than it
Speaker 1: makes a lot of people that maybe he'd like to impress,
Speaker 1: really please with him. So maybe those things coming. I
Speaker 1: don't know, but I haven't heard anything about it. And
Speaker 1: as for Ai, it's funny he says nuclear disarmament is
Speaker 1: something similar because right now we're engaging in Iran with
Speaker 1: trying to deny a homicidal regime nuclear weapons, and he's
Speaker 1: not a fan of that. So I guess that's that's
Speaker 1: a good thing about being pope. You can just say things,
Speaker 1: you don't really have to put action behind them.
Speaker 5: Interesting take Dean, I'm sorry speaking of around. Let us
Speaker 5: listen to President Trump for a few moments. Cut two, Carlos,
Speaker 5: this is what Fox is reporting today, and.
Speaker 7: The Trump administration says the deal with Iran is ninety
Speaker 7: five percent complete, but there are still some final details
Speaker 7: to be addressed. On a call yesterday with reporters, a
Speaker 7: senior administration official indicated the memorandum of understanding may take
Speaker 7: several days to reach because the Iranian system doesn't move
Speaker 7: as fast as the United States would like. The official
Speaker 7: added that the current plan is to formally end the
Speaker 7: war and open the Straight of Horn moves without tolls
Speaker 7: for eventually dealing with all enriched nuclear material in Iran
Speaker 7: and not permitting further enrichment. Now, Iran will receive billions
Speaker 7: of dollars worth of assets on frozen along with oil
Speaker 7: sanctions waivers. US officials say that will only take place
Speaker 7: if they hold their end of the bargain. Secretary of
Speaker 7: State Marco Rubio said this today about the negotiations.
Speaker 8: We're still work in progress. We have what I think
Speaker 8: is a pretty solid thing on the table in terms
Speaker 8: of their ability to open up the straits, get the
Speaker 8: straits open, enter into a very real, significant, time limited
Speaker 8: negotiation on the nuclear matters, and hopefully we.
Speaker 2: Can pull it off.
Speaker 8: It has a lot of support in the Gulf has
Speaker 8: a lot of support globally. Every country that we've walked
Speaker 8: through it understands is not just very reasonable, but it's
Speaker 8: the right thing for the world to get done. As
Speaker 8: the President said, he's not in a hurry. He's not
Speaker 8: going to make a bad deal.
Speaker 2: On side. President Tump, I.
Speaker 5: Think we've got enough there from what we're hearing. We've
Speaker 5: been hearing all week in president state in Washington, d C.
Speaker 5: At one time was like, we're close to a deal,
Speaker 5: then we're not close to a deal with closer And
Speaker 5: we've heard this before. This isn't the first time, but
Speaker 5: it appears that a deal is forming. Any thoughts that
Speaker 5: you have on what this and how this deal, more importantly,
Speaker 5: will be looked at by the American people, particularly the
Speaker 5: Republican Senate Senate, who are having a temper tantrum right now.
Speaker 1: Nice use of the temper of cancher. That's a sweet
Speaker 1: Peter Jennings reference. Don't think I missed that one, well well,
Speaker 1: he said after the ninety four Republican Senate.
Speaker 2: But anyway, yeah, they they.
Speaker 1: I think, are going to be looking to the election.
Speaker 1: That's their thing. A lot of them don't have much
Speaker 1: of a spine, as Margaret Thatcher said to George H. W. Bush,
Speaker 1: and the go for it, uncle wobbly on me. I
Speaker 1: expect that they'll go wobbly if there's a lot in
Speaker 1: the press, and there will be in the press that
Speaker 1: says this deal is no good because he can never
Speaker 1: do anything President Trump that will please his critics, and
Speaker 1: his critics are men and varied. And I think of
Speaker 1: the example from the pandemic where he was nationalizing a
Speaker 1: bunch of companies basically to pump out ventilators, which by
Speaker 1: the way, turned out to be a death sense if
Speaker 1: he used one. And they asked Nancy Poschi, well, how
Speaker 1: many ventilators do you need, and she said, infinite ventilators.
Speaker 1: We need infinite ventilators. So it's an impossible bar that
Speaker 1: they are always going to set. They're so excited about
Speaker 1: declaring that the Quagmuire it was three days in and
Speaker 1: we've lost fewer soldiers, not that each and everyone is
Speaker 1: in a memorial day, a tragedy to those families and
Speaker 1: a criminal waste of life in the grand scheme of things.
Speaker 1: But we've lost less than we did when we invaded Grenada,
Speaker 1: and Grenada is about the size I think half the
Speaker 1: size of Philadelphia, so a little perspective, and you know,
Speaker 1: this is the same number that was lost just at
Speaker 1: Abby Gate during Biden's withdrawal, and we don't count numbers.
Speaker 1: I don't mean to reduce the lives lost in numbers,
Speaker 1: but whatever it is, they're going to say that it's
Speaker 1: not enough. And that's why it's so important to get
Speaker 1: people out there like Marco Rubio who could really advocate
Speaker 1: for the deal. So he has to be on board
Speaker 1: for it if he's going to advocate for it, because
Speaker 1: I think if we don't do that, they're just going
Speaker 1: to declare the loss. They never want to declare anything
Speaker 1: a win. They just don't. They don't have a setting
Speaker 1: for it. Trump always has to lose, always has to
Speaker 1: be terrible, and it's not that sometimes he might be wrong. Sure,
Speaker 1: of course he's with lots of things that any thinking
Speaker 1: person fringes ad but there's not every single thing. The
Speaker 1: guy can't walk across the street without them impeaching him
Speaker 1: for jaywalking. So I don't know. It's amazing to me
Speaker 1: that he can even get the Iranians to falk to them,
Speaker 1: because if I was them, I would probably just try
Speaker 1: to wait him out, which is what they've been trying
Speaker 1: to do. But they see in him somebody who just
Speaker 1: doesn't care about the public opinion, and that's one of
Speaker 1: the kind of liberating things. As our colleague and other
Speaker 1: Rush colleague at the Old Rustling Bush Show, George Price
Speaker 1: Toko says that Trump is in a unique position. He's
Speaker 1: not running for reelection again. He had kind of this
Speaker 1: rest between his two terms to really study up on
Speaker 1: what he's going to do. And Iran has always vexed
Speaker 1: the American people. Hill he said he was going to
Speaker 1: bomb them. Bill Clinton said he was going to bomb
Speaker 1: them all, the Democrats, everyone said they can have a
Speaker 1: nuclear weapon. And he's the first guy not starting this war.
Speaker 1: They want to say it's Trump's war. They went to
Speaker 1: war with us when they invaded our embassy and they
Speaker 1: kill they blew up the marine and marine barracks. They
Speaker 1: were giving IEDs to the terrorists in Iraq. They've been
Speaker 1: killing Americans for a real long time. This is finally
Speaker 1: fighting fire with fire instead of letting them pick off
Speaker 1: soldiers here and there one by one. So I hope
Speaker 1: that it's a good deal. I hope that he doesn't
Speaker 1: trust them but I think whatever he does, he has
Speaker 1: to really sell it because the press is not going
Speaker 1: to ever report anything favorably on the guy. And that's
Speaker 1: why I guess the best position to have is just
Speaker 1: not care. If you think it's a good deal, pass it,
Speaker 1: and it has to be better than watching New York
Speaker 1: City go up on our mushroom cloud someday.
Speaker 5: Let's move on to the d NC autopsy really quickly.
Speaker 5: Scott Jennings, who I love deliver, had one of my
Speaker 5: favorite lines on a cut eleven Carlos seeing then he
Speaker 5: was on a panel of Scott Jennings This on Kamala
Speaker 5: Harris and the d n C autopsy.
Speaker 8: Do you see something in that?
Speaker 2: I mean, is that profound because it rhymes?
Speaker 9: I mean, I look, she doesn't have I do think
Speaker 9: it was well, very well said. She doesn't have to
Speaker 9: be flawless, but she has to give you something. I mean,
Speaker 9: she's like a true double threat. You know, she's terrible
Speaker 9: on her feet when she gets unexpected questions and simultaneously
Speaker 9: she can't even answer the expected questions. It's nothing, nothing, nothing.
Speaker 9: You think she'd be prepared to do this by now?
Speaker 9: You know, what's a mistake You've made nothing. What's a
Speaker 9: weakness you have?
Speaker 2: Nothing?
Speaker 9: What's the first law you want to pass? Nothing? What's
Speaker 9: a policy difference between you and Joe Biden? Nothing? Over
Speaker 9: and over and over, empty, empty, empty. If she were
Speaker 9: an animal, she'd be a duck bill platitude.
Speaker 5: It's now Chris Chris van Holland, mister Margharita, who, by
Speaker 5: the way, he's been in touch with kill omar Ableo
Speaker 5: Galcia's wife, and he the terror of the MS thirteen
Speaker 5: terrorists over the weekend to celebrate the fact that he
Speaker 5: had another judicial ruling in his favor. Is Old was
Speaker 5: critical of the d NC autopsy release cut ten. Here's
Speaker 5: Senator Margaritaville Chris van Holland.
Speaker 10: Well, Nancy, this is a very shoddy piece of work.
Speaker 10: It's an incomplete piece of work, and I can understand
Speaker 10: why Ken Martin was reluctant to release it earlier. But
Speaker 10: as he has said, he owns this problem. He should
Speaker 10: have just ripped the band aid off earlier and put
Speaker 10: it out. No, we're six months from a very important
Speaker 10: election and we should not be changing horses at this time.
Speaker 10: I will say that the overall thrust.
Speaker 2: Of the report.
Speaker 10: Indicates that you know we should not just go back
Speaker 10: to the pre Trump status quo. And I've said from
Speaker 10: the beginning it was a failure, obviously the Democratic Party
Speaker 10: to lose to someone like Donald Trump the second time.
Speaker 5: What do you make of this whole kerfuffle over the
Speaker 5: DNC autopsy.
Speaker 1: I thought it was a flat but yes, it's a
Speaker 1: kerfuffle the bore. I think about it, and I look
Speaker 1: at the keywords here are what did we do wrong?
Speaker 1: And I love that and the idea of mistakes because
Speaker 1: it speaks of somebody who isn't willing to recognize that
Speaker 1: sometimes you lose. No, you're a Cowboys fan, I'm a
Speaker 1: Giants fan. We're very familiar. At this point in the
Speaker 1: lives of those two franchises was losing. Sometimes you lose.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you do everything you can and you lose, and
Speaker 1: then you're supposed to look, this was a rushism. You
Speaker 1: Rush said, you get to be honest about the reasons
Speaker 1: you lost, so you're never going to fix it. And
Speaker 1: that's exactly what this is. Like, what do you mean
Speaker 1: what you did wrong? Sometimes you just you just do
Speaker 1: everything that you think of and your things try out
Speaker 1: to be wrong, and you lose. But they don't have
Speaker 1: really a setting for that. I don't think it's kind
Speaker 1: of like that shoe Parker Lewis Can't Lose, which I
Speaker 1: usually associated with as in Trump in my columns, But
Speaker 1: in this case, that's how they see it, like, well,
Speaker 1: everybody sees Trump and Republicans exactly as this caricature that
Speaker 1: they've invented of them, instead of recognizing that in politics,
Speaker 1: which is crazy because they have a lot of political
Speaker 1: people there, instead of recognizing that in politics sometimes the
Speaker 1: opponent isn't seen by the public the way you wish
Speaker 1: to see them. You know that Bill Clinton, you used
Speaker 1: to drive us nuts right at the rush shoell of
Speaker 1: the days and why because we would bring up the
Speaker 1: character and he had that glint in his eye that
Speaker 1: said to people, especially the ladies, well, you know, I
Speaker 1: never made a secret that I love the ladies. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've never made a secret. That's true. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of ladies that I liked, but I love this country.
Speaker 1: That's how the guy came across to people like you
Speaker 1: couldn't talk them out of it anymore than I mean,
Speaker 1: you know that when a man loves a woman, right,
Speaker 1: it's not the matter. She's bad he can't see it,
Speaker 1: and that was the case with this and they still
Speaker 1: can't see it. They're just depending on never ever being wrong.
Speaker 1: And that's not a way to win any elections.
Speaker 5: I'm happy for it. I don't want them to win.
Speaker 5: I want them to continue to get the wrong messages.
Speaker 5: Dean hold on, we got to take a break. When
Speaker 5: we get back. Clip of the day, it is time,
Speaker 5: ladies and gentlemen, for the Clip of the day. It
Speaker 5: is not related to politics at all at all. I
Speaker 5: can only say that it's it is so not related
Speaker 5: to politics. It's totally related to what is wrong in
Speaker 5: segments of American culture.
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Speaker 5: Ladies and Gentlemen, Time for the Clip of the day.
Speaker 5: Also the song of the day, Dean Carry Harris. We
Speaker 5: want to thank you for being with us today. Thank you,
Speaker 5: and you have to come back, so we didn't get
Speaker 5: to so many things I wanted to talk about. So
Speaker 5: maybe we'll just do a non holiday appearance with you,
Speaker 5: Dean and talk about some more politics stuff.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, thank you for having me and I'm sorry
Speaker 1: I probably talked too much.
Speaker 2: No, you never talk too much. I love hearing you. Dean.
Speaker 2: Listen to the clip of the day, all of you.
Speaker 5: I only played this clip because if I don't play it,
Speaker 5: no one else will when uh, it is not political
Speaker 5: at all. It's a news report out of Arizona. But
Speaker 5: there is nothing else like it for the clips that
Speaker 5: we have, and so here is your clip of the
Speaker 5: day out of Fox Local in Ara, Arizona.
Speaker 11: We begin, though, with a disturbing break in in downtown Phoenix.
Speaker 11: It has led to horrific charges, really unimaginable charges against
Speaker 11: a local man. Thirty one year old Fenris Lou is
Speaker 11: accused of using a crowbar to break into the Maricopa
Speaker 11: County Medical Examiner's office and gaining access to courts, and
Speaker 11: according to multiple law enforcement sources, Lou was caught on
Speaker 11: camera breaking this seal on several body bags and having
Speaker 11: sexual contact with several of the bodies. This morning, he
Speaker 11: was arrested and he is now facing multiple felonies, including burglary, escape,
Speaker 11: and four counts of sexual conduct with a dead body.
Speaker 11: The prosecution has sealed court documents to protect the integrity
Speaker 11: of the investigation and allow officials time to notify the
Speaker 11: victims' families. Lou is currently being held on a five
Speaker 11: hundred thousand dollars cash bond.
Speaker 5: There you have it, ladies and gentlemen from Maricopa County.
Speaker 5: Mara Copa County. Sure is an interesting place, isn't it.
Speaker 2: Dean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I see that. If he's convicted, I'll have to
Speaker 1: wear an ankle monitor. But I don't think it's this
Speaker 1: ankle that they need to monitor.
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Speaker 1: Appreciate you, Thank you for having me.
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