Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, you welcome to Pink Shade.
Speaker 2: It's Thursday, so that means it's pop and Bravo and
Speaker 2: not always on a Thursday do we talk about pop
Speaker 2: and Bravo? Sometimes more pop, sometimes more Bravo. Today I've
Speaker 2: got Mandy Schlitz Grossa.
Speaker 3: I bet it's gonna be a lot of Bravo and
Speaker 3: it's a little pop and a pop.
Speaker 1: What is it? What does your coke say on it?
Speaker 3: Oh? It says Nathaniel.
Speaker 2: Oh okay Nathaniel. All right, I've been seeing him lately.
Speaker 2: I got one on an airplane that said homie. I
Speaker 2: was like, okay, yeah, I've seen them now that say
Speaker 2: bro B what B.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think it's weird enough that they have people's names
Speaker 3: on it, because it's like, you know, when you're a
Speaker 3: kid and you go on vacation and you're the beach, right,
Speaker 3: and then they have like a key chain with everyone's name,
Speaker 3: and then they never had my name because.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say, I know, I've seen Mandy on things.
Speaker 2: Do you think you could find Mary pain good luck?
Speaker 1: Good Luck?
Speaker 3: They'd be Amanda and I'd be like nope, They're like no, inaccurate.
Speaker 2: I've definitely seen. I've definitely seen the coke bottles with Mandy.
Speaker 3: Oh a coke bottle with Mandy, that would be really fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, what's that diet coke?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Die coke?
Speaker 1: Okay, but you know, to me everything is coke.
Speaker 3: Yes, and to me everything is pop, right, I have to.
Speaker 2: Everything is coke, So I'm gonna say coke, I mean
Speaker 2: diet coke. If I see one that's Mandy, I'll.
Speaker 3: Get it for you.
Speaker 1: I did find one a few years ago that was pain,
Speaker 1: p A Y n E pain.
Speaker 3: That's amazing pretty.
Speaker 2: I think I might still be in my fridge, Like
Speaker 2: I said, well, we have to keep it forever, so
Speaker 2: it might still be in my fridge. Although our power
Speaker 2: went out recently and it was one of those three
Speaker 2: day situations.
Speaker 1: Everything had to go.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm so sorry. That sucks when that happens.
Speaker 1: I'll find it again.
Speaker 2: But at least it wasn't Homie, yeah homie. On the
Speaker 2: airplane she put the diet coke of Homie. I was like, you, like,
Speaker 2: look at the passenger next to you. You're like, hey,
Speaker 2: hey girl, Oh Mandy, it's good to talk to you.
Speaker 2: What a banner week On Bravo. This week, we had
Speaker 2: the end of the Love Hotel. We had the start
Speaker 2: of Miami, and we had a banner episode of The Valley.
Speaker 3: That Valley episode has taken years off my life.
Speaker 2: It's a lot, and then Atlanta. I I don't know
Speaker 2: if I watched this week. I'll be honest, but I've
Speaker 2: been trying to keep up, but I've usually been like
Speaker 2: one behind.
Speaker 3: I am one behind right now. Okay, I missed this week,
Speaker 3: but I watched the one where they meet the Prime
Speaker 3: Minister of Grenada. Okay, yeah, I figuring out who would
Speaker 3: be the best first lady and I loved that episode.
Speaker 2: Wait so I saw Okay, so the one after that
Speaker 2: they have like the Minister of Finance or something comes in.
Speaker 2: It's like another and then they go to the whatever
Speaker 2: is the celebration they have there in Granada, Grenada, where
Speaker 2: they cover themselves in.
Speaker 1: Black tar like oil.
Speaker 2: Oh and it's some sort of you guys, please forgive me.
Speaker 2: I did watch it now that I'm remembering, and I'm
Speaker 2: going to get this wrong, but just understand that I
Speaker 2: only know the gist of it. It's an important holiday
Speaker 2: where all the people in Grenada they cover themselves in
Speaker 2: this black oil looks like tar, and it's all about
Speaker 2: taking back slavery, and it's it's symbolic for the way
Speaker 2: that the slaves were treated. So all now the people
Speaker 2: they have this holiday where they cover themselves in this
Speaker 2: black tar and it's symbolic of freeing themselves from slavery.
Speaker 2: And so all the women did that and they, you know,
Speaker 2: Cynthia was like what they didn't want to get it
Speaker 2: in their hair, you know, So Cynthia did her hair
Speaker 2: like in braids and then put like big socks over
Speaker 2: her long braids, like big condoms over her braids. And
Speaker 2: it was funny the way that they were all trying
Speaker 2: to like, let me tell you what I would do.
Speaker 2: I'd be like, oh my god, how am I ever
Speaker 2: going to get this out of my hair?
Speaker 3: No? I yeah, I would embrace it.
Speaker 1: Though.
Speaker 3: I think they're having such a great time on this trip,
Speaker 3: and yeah, Grenada is getting its money worth like all
Speaker 3: of those you know, the finance minister, the Prime minister
Speaker 3: getting air time. I mean, now I'm interested. Should my
Speaker 3: next trip be to Grenada?
Speaker 2: I was looking at I was like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: the scenery is gorgeous.
Speaker 3: It's gorgeous, but they're not showing them as much doing
Speaker 3: the kinds of activities that I would do on vacation,
Speaker 3: Like I'm all beach, I'm all water, and so I'm like,
Speaker 3: oh cooking lesson great Like, wouldn't do it, you.
Speaker 1: Know, agree, agree.
Speaker 2: I like to see people on a boat. I like
Speaker 2: to see the island from the water, like because all
Speaker 2: those aerial shots of all those like beautiful homes and stuff.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, well, yeah, I am caught up on
Speaker 2: it now that you said that, because like, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: I forgot.
Speaker 1: They were at the pool.
Speaker 2: And then another minister of something came and they you know,
Speaker 2: pretty much we're very inappropriate with a man of that statue.
Speaker 1: He liked it. They didn't care.
Speaker 2: It was all consensual. Phaedria is just so damn funny
Speaker 2: she is.
Speaker 3: She is such a hoot. I like cannot get enough
Speaker 3: of her. And I'm a little bit sad that she's
Speaker 3: not going to be back on Traders because I just
Speaker 3: feel like she's so good that I kind of want
Speaker 3: her on every season, if that makes sense, Like its
Speaker 3: just I mean, I don't want I guess it would
Speaker 3: be unfair to have someone with like had experience playing
Speaker 3: the game, you know, come again, But she's so fun So.
Speaker 2: Do we have any I saw that Derenda was coming back,
Speaker 2: that's just because she got voted off first.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Portia is coming.
Speaker 2: She's not coming back. She didn't she wasn't home before.
Speaker 2: Durant just coming.
Speaker 3: Back coming back? No, I don't think it is coming.
Speaker 2: Back during just only repeat And what is it even
Speaker 2: to be Because they announced it, does that mean it's
Speaker 2: coming soon or no?
Speaker 3: I think they're filming it. They usually film it at
Speaker 3: the very end of June, like at this time of
Speaker 3: the year in Scotland, and then I believe it always
Speaker 3: airs right after the first of the year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like a little January treat that we deserve.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's my favorite. I love it. I've gotten my
Speaker 3: stepmom into it. I'm telling her, Donna Kelcey is on there,
Speaker 3: you know, go time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be better if Jason Kelsey was on there,
Speaker 2: but we'll take he.
Speaker 3: Is so funny or kylie. But I honestly think she
Speaker 3: is so wildly like underrated people are just like, oh,
Speaker 3: Donna Kelcey, Donna Kelcey. This woman could give like media
Speaker 3: talks to people who've been doing press for decades, like
Speaker 3: the way that she shares information without actually releasing any
Speaker 3: information is incredible, and oh, she's really thoughtful about it,
Speaker 3: because you know that Taylor and Travis are, you know,
Speaker 3: very tight lipped about where they are, what they're doing,
Speaker 3: and yet she's like I think she was asked, are
Speaker 3: you hosting Taylor for Thanksgiving? Is she coming to Thanksgiving?
Speaker 3: And she said no, And then it turns out that
Speaker 3: Taylor's family was hosting them. Like it's like, like she's
Speaker 3: just never lying, but she's not fully sharing anything and
Speaker 3: she's clever at how to do it. And so for
Speaker 3: media from a media training perspective, I just find her
Speaker 3: very fascinating.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, speaking to somebody who I think has had
Speaker 2: some media training, it's Jack's so on this episode of
Speaker 2: The Valley, he's back to us immediately, you know, we
Speaker 2: just who else wouldn't do it if you saw your
Speaker 2: you know, he's back to his shenanigans, not taking a
Speaker 2: lot of accountability and doing a lot of lying. And
Speaker 2: by the way, that's sofa. Mandy looked it up. I
Speaker 2: just recorded my episode about the Valley.
Speaker 1: I looked it up.
Speaker 2: The most expensive sofa you can buy on love Sack,
Speaker 2: The most expensive if you just go to their site
Speaker 2: sift all the products by most expensive to least. The
Speaker 2: most expensive sofa that they have is about nine thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: It's great, it's not twenty.
Speaker 3: I was like, twenty is crazy, it's not twenty for
Speaker 3: that brand. I was like, no, I looked it up.
Speaker 1: I looked it up because I.
Speaker 3: Was such a liar. He throws so much out there
Speaker 3: and it's verifiably like not true. And then when you
Speaker 3: confront him, he's like, well, I don't know, you know, like.
Speaker 1: You all sudden have tax problems. Everybody has tax.
Speaker 3: Problems, right, yeah, every day someone's not filing their taxes.
Speaker 2: But okay, but for one point one million dollars?
Speaker 1: Like what?
Speaker 3: And he's I didn't have the money, and it's like, no,
Speaker 3: you did. Actually, when all of this happened was when
Speaker 3: you were on vander Pumper roles and you did have
Speaker 3: the money. Yeah, you just chose to you just chose
Speaker 3: not to keep enough money around to pay time.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: That guy, Well, I have looked pretty hard for his
Speaker 2: eBay page and I can't find it anyhow. I as
Speaker 2: I gets like Jack's Taylor Jason COUCHI Jack's Calchy Jason Taylor, like,
Speaker 2: I've tried to find it, can't find it.
Speaker 1: So if somebody.
Speaker 2: Knows Jackson's eBay page with the Jenny craigbags for thirty dollars,
Speaker 2: I'd like to see it.
Speaker 3: I could probably DM like Janet or Jason Okay, have
Speaker 3: you have you? Yeah? I've They've both like responded to
Speaker 3: me when I've posted like funny memes about them. Okay,
Speaker 3: so I'm like, oh, okay, maybe they would respond again.
Speaker 2: Somebody Danny Danny reposted something I did right at the beginning.
Speaker 1: I can't remember what it was.
Speaker 2: It's pretty funny, though, I'm sure it was hilarious, but
Speaker 2: now I can't even remember what it was because my brain.
Speaker 3: Just They all have good senses of humor about themselves
Speaker 3: and making fun of themselves.
Speaker 1: It feels like I might be meeting some of them
Speaker 1: next Steet, you know, the week after No, next week,
Speaker 1: I have so much fun.
Speaker 2: Next week I'm going to La for Heather McDonald is
Speaker 2: having a tenth anniversary of Juicy'scoop party, and I got invited.
Speaker 2: Is this I'm never gonna invite anything. I'm leaving the
Speaker 2: beach and flying.
Speaker 3: To La to go.
Speaker 2: Yeah and yeah, so she said she thinks La La
Speaker 2: will be there, and she's like, you know, Janet, she's.
Speaker 3: Always Lala and her close, I think.
Speaker 1: And she was like, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'll invite she done, I'll invite Janet Jason. You'll see
Speaker 2: who comes. I was like, Okay, exciting for me, very
Speaker 2: exciting for me.
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Speaker 2: the lawyer.
Speaker 3: Does he know Jason or they just got the same room. Oh? Nice?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's always like I can text him and see
Speaker 2: if he wants to come on your show. I'm like, nah,
Speaker 2: I don't think so. He's super nice, but I don't
Speaker 2: think you could tell me any thing. Yeah, let's talk
Speaker 2: about the Valley. So Jack's on the Valley is being
Speaker 2: himself when he gets out, and by the way, literally
Speaker 2: didn't miss him for all the episodes he was gone,
Speaker 2: didn't miss him. And he brings so much. There's so
Speaker 2: much stress on this show and it's just like added
Speaker 2: stress when he's around. But on Watch What Happens Live,
Speaker 2: either he got a script or he has been into
Speaker 2: some severe media trading because he was so different on
Speaker 2: Watch what happens live even than he is on the
Speaker 2: After Show, because on the After Show he does a
Speaker 2: lot of who wouldn't be upset, who wouldn't throw a chair?
Speaker 3: No, I know, and this is a terrible thing to
Speaker 3: say about someone who is actively, you know, trying to
Speaker 3: break their addiction, is sober, but he seems like he
Speaker 3: was drugged, like on benzo diazepines, like someone gave him
Speaker 3: something just to not be reactive because it was so
Speaker 3: against his nature. And I think he can only hold
Speaker 3: that kind of a personality for so long and then
Speaker 3: he breaks. And so yeah, it's you know, twenty minutes
Speaker 3: on screen, twenty two minutes on screen. Great, Fine, he
Speaker 3: can do that. But I don't think that's who he is.
Speaker 3: I don't think that's who he's becoming. And mainly because
Speaker 3: of the answers that Tom Schwartz gave, which is, do
Speaker 3: you think he's changed? And he's like no, but like
Speaker 3: he's trying, which is like essentially blowing Jackson's cover. Like
Speaker 3: he hasn't changed a whole lot since.
Speaker 2: Brittany has said, Brittany has said the same, she has said,
Speaker 2: she has said on the After Show, and she said,
Speaker 2: I watch what happens live. She's like, no, you know, no,
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think he's doing drugs because I
Speaker 2: do randomly drug test him and.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I don't.
Speaker 1: Like but he's still the same, Yeah, the same person. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean great that he is sober, but all of
Speaker 3: his issues, like he is not they're they're not gone
Speaker 3: just because he stopped doing cocaine and drinking alcohol right right.
Speaker 2: And I think that he you know, I mean, he's
Speaker 2: joked about it on the after show that you know
Speaker 2: that he has diagnosed as being in our so I
Speaker 2: mean he is and you can't fix that.
Speaker 1: And he's sociopath.
Speaker 3: I mean, he just had so many like layered mental
Speaker 3: health issues. But at the end of the day, it
Speaker 3: feels like he cannot control his reactivity and that is
Speaker 3: the issue. He's just never learned to self regulate his emotions.
Speaker 3: He like missed that part of childhood and.
Speaker 1: Nobody, but nobody held him accountable.
Speaker 3: Man should Yeah, I know, well his I mean I
Speaker 3: blame his parents for not teaching him to self regulate.
Speaker 3: That is kind of a job of a parent of
Speaker 3: like when you have a toddler, of being like, oh,
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry, you're frustrated, like learning how to name
Speaker 3: the feelings that you have and learning how to talk
Speaker 3: through things rather than throwing things like these are things
Speaker 3: that you know, three year old's, four year olds, five
Speaker 3: year olds, even older children do and you work with
Speaker 3: them on how to do that. And he just never
Speaker 3: either no one worked with him or he needed extra
Speaker 3: help and it was not given to him, and no
Speaker 3: one really held him accountable, including Brittany. But you know what,
Speaker 3: I blame him. I'm not going to blame her for
Speaker 3: his behavior.
Speaker 1: Well, what I'm saying is he tried to say this week.
Speaker 1: That's what he tried to say.
Speaker 2: Nobody ever held me accountable, so it's everybody else assault.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I mean he can flip
Speaker 3: anything on anyone but himself. I mean the way that
Speaker 3: he talks to himself, Like that's the way he talks
Speaker 3: to himself, right, Like who hasn't messed up on their taxes?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, He's had to make himself
Speaker 3: feel better, So he's like talking to himself and in
Speaker 3: his head, like that's what's going on in his head
Speaker 3: is excuses, excuses, excuses, excuses. He can't even say sorry
Speaker 3: without the word butt, and he even used the word
Speaker 3: butt on Watch What Happens Live. However, he was like subdued,
Speaker 3: Like again, I feel like he was like drugged or
Speaker 3: something where he was just non reactive. So he was
Speaker 3: like dah da da da. But you know, so it
Speaker 3: didn't seem like he was his usual like super angsty
Speaker 3: reactive self.
Speaker 1: Well I did you know.
Speaker 2: Adi's like, you know, people have like protested that we're
Speaker 2: having you on here, Like what do you think about that?
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, I just have to apologize.
Speaker 2: You know, for the people, and then he did his
Speaker 2: whole thing, which obviously he'd really practice, and Ady goes,
Speaker 2: but the person you need to apologize.
Speaker 3: Who is Britney Brittany.
Speaker 1: Yeah, He's like, oh yeah her, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Speaker 1: her too. Of course, of course, of course.
Speaker 3: That wasn't in the script, so yeah, he forgot.
Speaker 1: About that part.
Speaker 2: But yeah, Tom Schwartz just looks like a hostage. I mean,
Speaker 2: whenever Tom Schwartz is on the after show, he's like, why.
Speaker 3: Do I have to be with him?
Speaker 1: And then he's like, because I'm not even a cast.
Speaker 2: Member on the Show's like, why do I have to
Speaker 2: come to watch What Happens Live with this guy.
Speaker 3: He literally looks like he's actively dissociating. Yeah, like every
Speaker 3: single time, Like he literally his eyes and he's just
Speaker 3: like yeah like that. Yes, Yes, Even it's happened a
Speaker 3: couple of times with Jesse too, like when in that
Speaker 3: first scene when Jack's got out of rehab and they're
Speaker 3: in his and he's saying, Brittany better put this house
Speaker 3: on the market. She needs to find like a three
Speaker 3: bedroom something appropriate for a woman.
Speaker 1: He I have the exact question.
Speaker 3: Jesse's face was like.
Speaker 1: Even Jesse was like, I hate women, and I wouldn't
Speaker 1: say that shit exactly he says.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you exactly what he says. I'm just trying
Speaker 2: to see when they okay. He said, quote, no woman
Speaker 2: needs a five bedroom house, seven baths. You're a woman
Speaker 2: with a child, get something like a three bedroom that's
Speaker 2: manageable as a woman.
Speaker 3: Manageable as a woman.
Speaker 2: He said it three times. He said it three times. Woman,
Speaker 2: Yeah he did. And even Jesse was like, dude, like,
Speaker 2: nobody hates women more than me, but you gotta the
Speaker 2: woman's stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really bad, it's really bad.
Speaker 2: And what else happened this week? Lucas you know, secretly
Speaker 2: planning this. Do we think that we're going to find
Speaker 2: out that Kristen knew all along because she can't figure
Speaker 2: some shit out?
Speaker 3: She can, But I do think that when filming is
Speaker 3: going on, she's so focused on like sleuthing around filming
Speaker 3: and finding a way to like redeem Danny and Nia
Speaker 3: because in her mind she's so worried that Jason and
Speaker 3: Janet are shitting on them, like which they are, but
Speaker 3: I don't really think they need her redemption. So I
Speaker 3: think she's like so focused on that. Yeah, she's and
Speaker 3: that this is their trip, so she's like all in
Speaker 3: on them. And I think it's a perfect diversion because
Speaker 3: Luke is so underrated in how he does things, Like
Speaker 3: he knows her so well and he can be understated
Speaker 3: that's probably not underrated, understated and how he does things,
Speaker 3: so he's like, hey, she won't even see it coming, right,
Speaker 3: And I really believe that, like he seems to know
Speaker 3: her so well that he could figure that out. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that she's got like too many other things, like if
Speaker 3: it was just them, if filming wasn't happening, you know,
Speaker 3: if they didn't have like work going like, she would
Speaker 3: totally sleuth she would figure it out. But it's all
Speaker 3: happening so quickly. What was so funny? So he has
Speaker 3: this gecko I guess or whatever.
Speaker 2: His lizard is spiders, and he's got all sorts of animal.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, those are the ones that actually think Kyle
Speaker 3: Chan has.
Speaker 1: Oh see they showed it. I was like, Luke has
Speaker 1: got all those.
Speaker 3: I think Luke has like one lizard, oh, gecko, I
Speaker 3: don't know which one it is, and he brings it
Speaker 3: to Kyle Chan to watch, because Kyle Chan has all
Speaker 3: of these like reptiles or lizards, you know that kind
Speaker 3: of thing. And then they made the snake joke about
Speaker 3: Janet all of that. But that's what I that's where
Speaker 3: I because I watched it again because I was like,
Speaker 3: quait is Kristen living home with spiders spiders? Yeah, I
Speaker 3: just don't see that happening for her, but I do
Speaker 3: see a lizard, okay.
Speaker 2: And so but I think that's very smart that he's
Speaker 2: done everything verbally. Yep, there's no trail, No, no trail.
Speaker 2: He doesn't I mean like Chris doesn't even know that
Speaker 2: Luke filled with Danny at Kyle chand like somehow or
Speaker 2: another that wasn't on a call sheet for her to
Speaker 2: be able to see.
Speaker 3: Oh I'm sure he also worked with you know, production
Speaker 3: to make sure that she couldn't have access to certain things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's a good idea.
Speaker 2: Like I'm going to go take my lizard over there
Speaker 2: so I can pick up the ring, because otherwise how
Speaker 2: would you get it?
Speaker 3: But every time they go out of town, they stop
Speaker 3: at Kyle Chance and drop off this lizard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's playing the long game. One day from this guy.
Speaker 3: I really adore Luke. I just really love him. I
Speaker 3: think he got a bad rap in the beginning when
Speaker 3: people are calling him a doomsday prepper. I just think
Speaker 3: he's a sweet, simple guy who likes the outdoors, who's
Speaker 3: not really into this whole like being on a TV
Speaker 3: show style at all. But he's a genuine person who
Speaker 3: really loves Kristen and who really loves her friends, and
Speaker 3: he seems to form genuine bonds with people, and so
Speaker 3: I am here for I love the people that end
Speaker 3: up on shows that like never were meant to be
Speaker 3: cast on a reality show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh that's true, that's true.
Speaker 1: Okay, what else happened this week on the Valley.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to Jesse said no to Isabella spending time
Speaker 3: with Michelle's mom who is dying of cancer.
Speaker 2: Right, that was a low for Jesse, But you know,
Speaker 2: he has a point, like, we need to talk to
Speaker 2: Isabella about this, but actually she's five, so you don't
Speaker 2: need to talk about grandma's going to die. I think
Speaker 2: it's more like, remember when you're like sick sometimes and
Speaker 2: can't go to school, that's how grandma feels like that's
Speaker 2: kind of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't need to go into details about death. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's just to spend time. We don't know the future,
Speaker 3: but it is looking very bad. And so the longer
Speaker 3: you hold out arguing about the way to talk to Isabella,
Speaker 3: the less time she's going to have with her grandmother,
Speaker 3: and more likely her grandmother is going to not even
Speaker 3: be able to spend time with her in a useful
Speaker 3: way if she's that that's sick, right, And.
Speaker 1: So he'll drive out the conversation.
Speaker 3: Rag the conversation there is. I always get really frustrated
Speaker 3: when people say, like, that's not appropriate for my kid,
Speaker 3: Like I'm sorry, Like what child is that appropriate for?
Speaker 3: If you have a five year old and the parent dies,
Speaker 3: like the child's gonna have to know about it, and
Speaker 3: there is a developmentally appropriate way to talk to children
Speaker 3: about just about any subject.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Uh, Mandy works in a pediatric situation, so
Speaker 2: she knows.
Speaker 3: I just get very frustrated when people like make these excuses.
Speaker 3: You like, you think no child has ever been in
Speaker 3: that situation before, you think there's no one you could
Speaker 3: ask for support those psychologists, no pediatrician, no one, yeah right,
Speaker 3: not damn it. Jess, like, stop it. He's so annoying.
Speaker 1: He's so annoying.
Speaker 2: So that we had that, and then we had once
Speaker 2: again the piling on of Danny. They had a dinner.
Speaker 2: Now what was interesting at that boys dinner is that
Speaker 2: Jax goes, Oh, it was just like a little birdie
Speaker 2: went into Danny's ear and suddenly, you know, no, Danny says,
Speaker 2: a little Bertie went too Jackson's ear.
Speaker 1: I'm sure it was Janet.
Speaker 2: Why don't you assume it's Jesse, because Jesse is the
Speaker 2: one that told him all that shit.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sent with Jesse.
Speaker 2: And and because by the way, no stink on Jesse.
Speaker 2: Jesse didn't say I called my wife a whore. She
Speaker 2: threw a girl that didn't get brought up just what
Speaker 2: Danny did.
Speaker 3: He's yeah, exactly. And the thing is the fact that
Speaker 3: just when they mentioned Danny's name and he goes, oh,
Speaker 3: did dark side come out? Like that's it's clear that
Speaker 3: they all talk about Danny behind his back and say
Speaker 3: that he's got some issues with drinking. And to get
Speaker 3: thrown out of Jackx's seems to me twice, and not
Speaker 3: because you're Zach, right, because Zach gets thrown out all
Speaker 3: the time because he gets very frustrated with Zach. But
Speaker 3: to keep getting thrown out of a bar that your
Speaker 3: friend owns, do you know how hard it is to
Speaker 3: make sure how yeah, like you have to really be
Speaker 3: behaving poorly?
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 2: I agree that Danny obviously has something going on. Yeah, drinks,
Speaker 2: and he also lies because Nia said he only had
Speaker 2: two pelters and I was like, roll the tape, Yeah
Speaker 2: last week they rolled.
Speaker 3: She knows, but she's not going to ever publicly go
Speaker 3: against him, which I understand, like as their marriage, if
Speaker 3: that's you know, they're like, Okay, we are united front always,
Speaker 3: whether we're on camera, whether we're not on camera, But
Speaker 3: when we're in the privacy of our own home, like
Speaker 3: that's when she is more honest when they're in therapy.
Speaker 3: I think that's when she's more honest, and I think
Speaker 3: that is a secret to probably a wonderful relationship, but
Speaker 3: it is not an honest portrayal of who they are
Speaker 3: on reality TV. And I can see, like, yes, they're
Speaker 3: lovely people, but I can see why it would annoy
Speaker 3: other people on the show who are being honest and
Speaker 3: are having really uncomfortable conversations that there's no uncomfortable conversations
Speaker 3: that are happening between Danny and Nea unless it's like predecided,
Speaker 3: like oh, last season, I think there she was like, Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm going to talk about my postpartum depression experience, you know,
Speaker 3: and so he's like, okay, I'll support you in that, right.
Speaker 3: So I feel like she even planned that because like
Speaker 3: that was what was going on in her life, and
Speaker 3: I appreciate that they did that on camera, but I
Speaker 3: think they talk through everything, and she is always trying
Speaker 3: to remove him from situations when he is drinking, and
Speaker 3: it is just like, come on, girl, like we're never
Speaker 3: going to get a chance to see what he's like.
Speaker 3: And I think that's what she wants. But then don't
Speaker 3: say that there's no problem.
Speaker 2: Right right, and listen as somebody who is married to
Speaker 2: a recovery alcoholic, A lot of this stuff is like,
Speaker 2: it's not like it is.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of it's triggering for me. A lot
Speaker 1: of the jack stuff is triggering.
Speaker 2: This whole show is triggering for me actually and a
Speaker 2: lot of people because it's just so but a lot
Speaker 2: and A's behavior around it is very familiar to me
Speaker 2: and like everything's fine, everything's fine, and sure you may
Speaker 2: be talking about it at home, but like everything's fine,
Speaker 2: everything's fine. I don't know why you think anything's wrong,
Speaker 2: and trying to pull the person out so they don't
Speaker 2: make it worse, and like the whole.
Speaker 1: Like, well, they only had the two drinks, like uh okay.
Speaker 2: And even the drinks that we saw him have when
Speaker 2: they showed last week, the time clock of like forty
Speaker 2: five minutes before, fifty minutes after that, ten minutes before that,
Speaker 2: all the drinks they were showing, he didn't show up
Speaker 2: to that bar sober. I'm just telling you from experience,
Speaker 2: people that all of a sudden seem super drunk, and
Speaker 2: you're like, how did they get so drunk because they
Speaker 2: were drinking before, so you saw them have three drinks,
Speaker 2: but they probably had three drinks where they came.
Speaker 3: I also appreciated what Jason said. I mean, not the
Speaker 3: way he said it, but what he said about you
Speaker 3: don't need to drink every day to be an alcoholic.
Speaker 3: I think that word is very loaded for a lot
Speaker 3: of people, and so they you know, it's easier to
Speaker 3: say something else. But the truth is is that you
Speaker 3: can have a problem with alcohol and you can have
Speaker 3: alcoholism without You could go months without drinking, right, Like,
Speaker 3: it's not like you have to drink during the day.
Speaker 3: It's not like you have to drink you know, a mouthwash,
Speaker 3: Like there's not it's not like, you know, like something
Speaker 3: out of a paper bag. It's just when you have alcohol,
Speaker 3: you cannot regulate yourself. Like that is a component of
Speaker 3: potential alcoholism, and that is what he has, not that
Speaker 3: he's alcoholism, but like he has this problem with self regulation.
Speaker 3: The issue I have is it's just not ever helpful
Speaker 3: to confront someone in that kind of a way because
Speaker 3: it's clearly not coming from a place of like empathy
Speaker 3: or concern for his well being or nia's well being.
Speaker 3: It's like being done for a storyline. It's being done
Speaker 3: yeah to like catch him, and I think they're frustrated
Speaker 3: in general, like with him because he's kind of getting
Speaker 3: off scotch free from taping, and I think everyone is
Speaker 3: feeling that way a little bit.
Speaker 2: But well, there's a Variety article came out today and
Speaker 2: I have not read it yet. I just saw like
Speaker 2: some clips, like Ryan posted some clips. People have posted
Speaker 2: some clips from the article, and one of it is
Speaker 2: Danny saying that at the end of season one, Jack
Speaker 2: called him and said, you guys got off looking like
Speaker 2: coming out smelling like a row.
Speaker 1: So we're coming for you next season.
Speaker 3: And so maybe like Janet and Jason were caring forward
Speaker 3: the Jacks, I don't know, whatever it is. It's like
Speaker 3: I agree with them, like they're one hundred percent correct
Speaker 3: and everything they're saying. The way that they are saying
Speaker 3: it is like really not nice. So to claim to
Speaker 3: be friends with Danny and Nia, like, I don't know
Speaker 3: if they're good friends, because that's it's not how you
Speaker 3: should approach. I'm not saying don't talk about it on camera.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying the way they're talking about it.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean Kisha and I were saying on our
Speaker 2: recap that like with the Janet and Na. It'd be
Speaker 2: one thing if Janet off camera took Nia to lunch
Speaker 2: and goes, I just want to tell you, this is
Speaker 2: what i'm seeing and I've had it in my own life,
Speaker 2: And are you okay? Is there anything we can do
Speaker 2: to support you?
Speaker 1: Do you feel you know? That would be being a friend.
Speaker 2: And if she said everything's fine and you don't need
Speaker 2: to worry about us, and be like, Okay, I'm here
Speaker 2: to talk if you want to. Otherwise, I'll take you
Speaker 2: at your word and we won't discuss it again.
Speaker 3: You know. But I think some of them take their
Speaker 3: job as a reality star very seriously and they're told
Speaker 3: not to have any conversations off camera, and I truly
Speaker 3: believe that, like they're following that, and so I still
Speaker 3: think it would have been helpful to have that conversation,
Speaker 3: even if it was on camera. Empathetically, Yeah, empathetically, That's
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Alone, Hey, this is what I'm noticing.
Speaker 3: It kind of makes me uncomfortable. I know it's made
Speaker 3: other people uncomfortable. I want to come to you with this.
Speaker 3: I have a feeling that they've already shared this stuff
Speaker 3: with Nia. If she knows she's not stupid, right, she
Speaker 3: knows that this is an issue her husband has. And
Speaker 3: it sounds like even the night that he was inappropriate
Speaker 3: with Jasmine and her fiance, that he was like, there
Speaker 3: was more than just the two of them. There was
Speaker 3: other women that were grabbed that really yes, that was
Speaker 3: according to Janet on The Vile Files, I listened to like,
Speaker 3: oh okay, the first fifteen to twenty minutes. I haven't
Speaker 3: finished it, but she said that there were other people
Speaker 3: who aren't part of the group that's on TV, who
Speaker 3: we're at that bar, who he behaved similarly with.
Speaker 2: One other thing I want to bring up about the
Speaker 2: Valley before we move on, is this week when Jack's
Speaker 2: said to Zach, it's my show, it's my show, it's
Speaker 2: my show. Okay, this is what got unfired last time.
Speaker 2: Does anybody who call that that's what it got And
Speaker 2: guess who also got fired?
Speaker 1: Vicky Gumfelson.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: So when you say my show, this is my show,
Speaker 2: you fy it, and he himself has been fired for it.
Speaker 3: I know, but I wonder, like I'm a little bit
Speaker 3: confused why he's being watch What Happens Live? Why I mean,
Speaker 3: I know that Danny and Nia and Luke and Kristin
Speaker 3: can't travel right now. They just had babies, So I
Speaker 3: think they're like at a limited number of like how
Speaker 3: many people they can keep flying out to New York
Speaker 3: for watch What Happens Live? But still you don't have
Speaker 3: to have him. And also why is he being featured
Speaker 3: at Bravo Con, Like they usually keep certain names back
Speaker 3: and then like release them later. Why would he be
Speaker 3: in the first release.
Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't see that. I didn't see that. Tell
Speaker 1: me about your bravocn ticket buying experience.
Speaker 3: So I've never had an easy time, and this was
Speaker 3: my first time that it was easy. I have no
Speaker 3: idea how. I have no idea why got the promo
Speaker 3: code was eleven fifty nine, hit refresh and it immediately
Speaker 3: was available. Put two in and my friend Jody put
Speaker 3: two in and she was said all things are carded
Speaker 3: and mine just went through. And I was like, got
Speaker 3: dam Yeah. I was like, okay, you go and get
Speaker 3: this other thing and get a Bravo Palooza while I'm
Speaker 3: finishing getting these, and then once we got them, we're like, okay.
Speaker 3: Last time at Bravo Con, I said, if I were
Speaker 3: to go again, I wouldn't do some of those night experiences,
Speaker 3: Like it was fun to see watch what Happens live,
Speaker 3: but you can watch it on TV later. I'm not
Speaker 3: going to get asked to like do a question again
Speaker 3: like I was last time, you know. And then the
Speaker 3: club experience was horror.
Speaker 1: I remember you said wort.
Speaker 3: I mean it was like kind of hilarious, but we
Speaker 3: spent so much money and it.
Speaker 1: Was like not not I planned.
Speaker 3: It would be. So we got tickets to Kelly Clarkson, okay,
Speaker 3: which is.
Speaker 1: Excited for just she doing like a residency in Vegas
Speaker 1: or something.
Speaker 3: Yes, and it's her last night.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I do love Kelly Clarkson. Okay, Well that's interesting.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I uh, four different codes, four different times
Speaker 2: I went in and say with Ingrid nothing what And
Speaker 2: last year, you know, it was just we got VI
Speaker 2: every day right away.
Speaker 3: You yeah, last year you had big experience I had
Speaker 3: this year. Last year I was like scrambling with like
Speaker 3: putting a couple one days.
Speaker 2: Together, and so we did end up on the one day,
Speaker 2: get we meet. I got to tickets for Friday and
Speaker 2: Sunday VIP, but don't have Saturday VIP.
Speaker 3: That's what I had or yeah, no, I had Friday
Speaker 3: VIP and Saturday and Sunday general admission.
Speaker 1: No I got, I go VIP here I go. No,
Speaker 1: I don't go.
Speaker 2: So we're waiting time, So waiting for Saturday VIP and
Speaker 2: then we'll see what happens. And I didn't get any
Speaker 2: Bravo palsas or any of that, so just waiting to
Speaker 2: see what happened.
Speaker 1: So I'm just waiting.
Speaker 2: So we've got the tickets and maybe we're thinking about
Speaker 2: doing some kind of like event. There's night I don't know.
Speaker 2: Waited to see what Amy Phillips is doing, but that
Speaker 2: is what's happening for Propacon.
Speaker 1: I mean we're going.
Speaker 2: We've already got our hotel room. I think we may
Speaker 2: have even booked our flights. I was like, we're going, now,
Speaker 2: somebody tickets.
Speaker 3: I got hotel a hotel reservation like in April because
Speaker 3: they were having a sale. Yeah, and it was six
Speaker 3: hundred dollars off and I was like, let's just get
Speaker 3: that and if we need to cancel, we'll cancel. But
Speaker 3: then like the day that we got the tickets, and
Speaker 3: we're like, okay, let's go, let's get our like flights,
Speaker 3: let's you know, same flights as before. We'll see who
Speaker 3: from will SEC is on our flight.
Speaker 1: We'll see you on the flights.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's same. It's like one flight
Speaker 3: a day on American it's non yep.
Speaker 1: This is early in the morning. It's like six am
Speaker 1: or something.
Speaker 3: It's pretty early, and then we kind of like wander
Speaker 3: like zombies around.
Speaker 1: So you can check into.
Speaker 2: Yes exactly, I just wrote this down. Vegas Flights needs
Speaker 2: to book because I think I didn't do it yet.
Speaker 3: Okay, we're in row like twenty so if you want
Speaker 3: to go in like twenty twenty one, you'll.
Speaker 1: Be with us and Andy. I hate to tell you.
Speaker 3: But you only fly first class.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't go with the Gen Pop. I
Speaker 1: go with the Gen Pop. I gotta, I gotta.
Speaker 2: I have so many American points that I just usually
Speaker 2: like book it for like advanced leg room or whatever,
Speaker 2: and then I'll get bumped up because I have so many.
Speaker 3: You'll be up there with our friend Ashley Darby.
Speaker 1: I'll be up there with Ashley Darby maybe Giselle.
Speaker 3: Do you want to hear some tea?
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course.
Speaker 3: So you've heard that there is like a new show
Speaker 3: that's the film in d C.
Speaker 1: Yes, uh huh, and Mady lives in Mandy lives in
Speaker 1: DC as well.
Speaker 3: Guys, I know some of the people on it, and
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be really good, okay, based
Speaker 3: on who they've.
Speaker 1: Casted, okay, and what's the premise.
Speaker 3: I don't know yet. I think they're trying to sell
Speaker 3: us as like people who are big in like not
Speaker 3: in politics, like no, not politics at all, like if
Speaker 3: you like own a business, people who like own businesses
Speaker 3: in DC. I think that's it's more like that. But
Speaker 3: I think it's all built around brand who is Ashley's
Speaker 3: best friend for best friends, and so it's like everyone
Speaker 3: kind of knows him ish.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, well all right, and what do we have
Speaker 2: any idea when this show is?
Speaker 1: Are they just shooting? They're shooting the whole thing.
Speaker 3: I think they're shooting. I have no idea. I need
Speaker 3: to reach back out. The person I know who's on
Speaker 3: it is like not a reality TV watcher, yeah at all,
Speaker 3: And like they're like bagging her because she'd be really
Speaker 3: good and she really doesn't give a shit about all
Speaker 3: that stuff and is.
Speaker 2: Really the person that is the person that I met
Speaker 2: when we had dinner with Ashley.
Speaker 1: No, not that girl.
Speaker 3: No, okay, no, it's someone I know completely separately in
Speaker 3: my life. I'll tell you off. Okay, interesting, but it's
Speaker 3: like fascinating because it's been greenlit enough. And so this
Speaker 3: person is telling me, oh, I have to go to
Speaker 3: this event and this event and this event. And I
Speaker 3: was like, well, if it's a day that I can
Speaker 3: make it, I'll join you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like plus one plus two Mary pay would also
Speaker 1: like to come.
Speaker 3: Oh. I was going to tell you as soon as
Speaker 3: I but one of the days I just like I
Speaker 3: couldn't go. It was one of the things was on
Speaker 3: a day that there was the military parade.
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, I would like to do for that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I already knew you already knew that. I already
Speaker 3: it was a no yea too, Like I wasn't leaving
Speaker 3: my apartment.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, stay inside. Well, speaking of Gizelle
Speaker 2: and Ashley love Hotel ended, and what a what a
Speaker 2: weird show this was. Now people are already like looking
Speaker 2: forward to new casting, but let's talk about this cast.
Speaker 2: So at the end of it, it says, you know,
Speaker 2: Shannon kept in touch with Earl and then whatever I'll
Speaker 2: watch What Happens Live. I think Ashley was Was it
Speaker 2: Giselle m or was it Loui Anne? I think it
Speaker 2: was leu Ane. It was yeah Joel Booster, Yes, and she.
Speaker 1: Weird that he got to go and watch what Happens
Speaker 1: to But but uh after what.
Speaker 3: He did, but he made a comment about it, Uh huh.
Speaker 3: He made a comment about.
Speaker 2: It when he said Bravo has this long line of forgiveness.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they said that the thing with Earl's step son,
Speaker 2: they were like, and it was a Google search, Like
Speaker 2: sheanon is not a sleuth. It was a Google search
Speaker 2: that she found this guy. So, no, he hasn't talked
Speaker 2: to him since it's there's a reason he wasn't in.
Speaker 1: Touch with him.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Interesting.
Speaker 2: So I don't think Earle turned out to be like
Speaker 2: such the great guy that he professed himself to be.
Speaker 2: Maybe because he's out there like trying to get dates
Speaker 2: on TikTok.
Speaker 3: Somebody told me, oh, interesting, I I so he's using
Speaker 3: tikto talk like Tom, can you DM on TikTok?
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: I think he's like, hey, if you want to date me,
Speaker 2: drop into my Yeah, I'm available. Any ladies in the
Speaker 2: Georgia area.
Speaker 3: Yeah, wait, that is so funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what somebody said.
Speaker 2: Now Luenna's with this guy James now Jane from Hawaii.
Speaker 2: But no, he's I mean on his list and is
Speaker 2: Kirn It said Orange County.
Speaker 3: So he goes between Hawaii and Orange County all the time.
Speaker 3: And she says that she's been flying to meet him
Speaker 3: in Orange County rather than in Hawaii.
Speaker 2: And I know the person that I know, Kay Casey,
Speaker 2: that knows him says it knows of him, doesn't know
Speaker 2: him personally, has heard he's like a total grifter like.
Speaker 3: That, I mean that kind of tracks for someone at
Speaker 3: Luinn would date. I think she's really smart though, and
Speaker 3: like hopefully not going to get married again.
Speaker 2: And watch what Happens like she said, she loves him,
Speaker 2: but she's.
Speaker 1: Free to do her own thing. Darling. She got this
Speaker 1: ring from another paramore.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, just keep him on roster, but do not
Speaker 3: do not settle.
Speaker 1: Did you on watch What Happens Live?
Speaker 2: She said, uh, you know, she said several of her
Speaker 2: lines of her iconic clients, and at one point.
Speaker 1: Andy goes, well, you've just quoted yourself three.
Speaker 2: Times in the last five minutes, like he was like,
Speaker 2: I mean even I was she does that all the time.
Speaker 2: So when it came below you cast darling or no,
Speaker 2: really she does it, and you're like, we get.
Speaker 3: It, we get it, we get We're like we're in
Speaker 3: on it with you. But you're like, don't keep reminding us,
Speaker 3: Like she was.
Speaker 1: Like Drindles was like it's a clip, Like we got it.
Speaker 3: I know we got a girl. Don't you want to
Speaker 3: hear a funny countess land story? Yeah? So back in September,
Speaker 3: Governor Gretchen Whitmer from Michigan was going to be on
Speaker 3: Watch what Happens Live to promote her book. And my
Speaker 3: friend works for her and was like, what do I
Speaker 3: need to know? Like we're we clearly have a whole
Speaker 3: team that's propping her, but like, what do I need
Speaker 3: to know? When I was like, oh, they're going to
Speaker 3: comment on how she looks like Luandelasps, So you need
Speaker 3: to know who luandelas SEPs is. She needs to know
Speaker 3: who Luyandelasps is. Understand the kind of what the countess is,
Speaker 3: the kind of things that you know. And she was like,
Speaker 3: how would I describe Luandelasps to the Governor? And I
Speaker 3: was like I prepared my whole life for this.
Speaker 1: Eric, thank you.
Speaker 3: So hard. And then so they did the whole thing
Speaker 3: and it was, you know, on live and then she
Speaker 3: messaged me and was like, what's the gay shark thing?
Speaker 3: Question Mark? Like she's like, it's cute, it's funny. I
Speaker 3: don't understand, and I was like.
Speaker 1: We're like, nobody really does, but it's just a thing.
Speaker 3: But like, can you imagine having to brief a governor
Speaker 3: and being like, so there's this housewife and people think
Speaker 3: you guys look alike and then you're like, what she's
Speaker 3: known for?
Speaker 1: What is a housewife?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: We got to roll it all the way back to
Speaker 1: it's a reality show. Yeah yeah, yeah, oh so fat
Speaker 1: that it's hilarious.
Speaker 2: That's hilarious. Giselle hated everybody. Why was she even on
Speaker 2: this show?
Speaker 3: She hates it when in general, but she's very funny.
Speaker 1: She's there. She would she would almost be a good
Speaker 1: host for it.
Speaker 3: I think she'd be a way better host. I think
Speaker 3: she's meant to be more of a host, Like I
Speaker 3: don't think she actually will ever let us in her
Speaker 3: real kind of dating and flat and yah, I feel
Speaker 3: like what she does is like I'm not on TV.
Speaker 1: I completely agree with that.
Speaker 3: And then Ashley she was still dating Josh the whole time. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean I think they were open, right.
Speaker 1: I think she's like, yeah.
Speaker 3: You know, but I mean she's still seen with Josh
Speaker 3: a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I mean she was never gonna like Walle
Speaker 2: He's not geographically comfortable. And then Ralph lives in Nashville
Speaker 2: and she's like, well, if you want me, you can
Speaker 2: just move.
Speaker 1: Up to where I am. You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, still want to know what musicians Ralph has worked for,
Speaker 2: because he says he's worked with like big, huge, famous
Speaker 2: rock bands. And I still would like to know who
Speaker 2: Do we know? Anybody that could tell us?
Speaker 1: I'd like to know. It's been my question every episode?
Speaker 3: Do not know? Damn it? I also like barely no
Speaker 3: rock bands, so I would be terrible.
Speaker 2: Okay, if you find out some names, let me know. Okay,
Speaker 2: Atlanta Phatri's back, we're excited about that. Are you loving
Speaker 2: Samiyah so much?
Speaker 3: I like Shemiah, I really do. I think she's a
Speaker 3: very compelling person because she is like flawed, you know,
Speaker 3: like ever, they're all flawed, right, but like she's one
Speaker 3: that's harder to find. Some of the flaws, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. And I think one of her flaws
Speaker 3: is that she does not she's not very confrontational, and
Speaker 3: she does not confront people when she is hurt by them,
Speaker 3: And so she has been like holding on to some
Speaker 3: of the stuff for a decade with Porsia, and I
Speaker 3: think like it's been one sided. All the energy has
Speaker 3: been on her side, where she's like emotional and stuff,
Speaker 3: and Porsha has zero idea And so then when she
Speaker 3: came with all that energy, I think it really caught
Speaker 3: Porsia off guard. And even though I think Shmia was
Speaker 3: like right in all of her things, I think she's
Speaker 3: wrong in like bringing things up ten years later. I
Speaker 3: just think, like, if you're not going to address something
Speaker 3: in the moment or like in the few weeks after,
Speaker 3: like you just gotta let it go. Yeah, that's probably like,
Speaker 3: you know, controversial to say that, but I'm like, if
Speaker 3: you don't address it, then like it's really unfair to
Speaker 3: like bring up to someone like how are they supposed
Speaker 3: to remember everything right ten years ago? Like all of
Speaker 3: the details about like what happened and what I did,
Speaker 3: Like you're just basically telling me that I did something terrible.
Speaker 3: I don't really remember it in the same way and
Speaker 3: you're and I have no idea that I hurt you,
Speaker 3: so I couldn't have even like altered my behavior because
Speaker 3: I had no idea. It feels a little unfair.
Speaker 1: Ah interesting, That's how I feel. I do think their
Speaker 1: friendship will last, though.
Speaker 3: I hope so, but right now it's not a good spot.
Speaker 3: I think the reason if it doesn't last, the problem
Speaker 3: is that their moms were friends and then their mom's
Speaker 3: had a falling out and I think it was somewhat
Speaker 3: business related with like a daycare, and I can't quite
Speaker 3: figure out what happened, but whatever, it is, like people
Speaker 3: are going to side with their moms over their friends,
Speaker 3: and I think they kind of like push their moms
Speaker 3: this side so they could like maintain their friendship. But yeah,
Speaker 3: so when they became friends when they were like in
Speaker 3: high school, I think that's when their moms became really
Speaker 3: good friends. Okay, So there's like layers to it, And
Speaker 3: so I was always wondering, like, why is Porscha's mom
Speaker 3: hating on Shamia. Shamia's like such a lovely person, so
Speaker 3: not someone who's like a gossiper, Like why is she
Speaker 3: making these little digs and got my answer.
Speaker 1: Wow, I didn't know that, man.
Speaker 3: I think it might have been in the after show.
Speaker 3: There is a Atlanta after show, which I like hit
Speaker 3: and miss, like sometimes I just like totally forget. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but I think it was in there because I don't
Speaker 3: know how else to found that out.
Speaker 1: That's a hot gus.
Speaker 2: Yeah Miami, mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Happy that it's back.
Speaker 3: I am obsessed with Miami. I think it is like
Speaker 3: it's this close to Real Housewives of Salt Lake City,
Speaker 3: which I think is like still number one for all housewives,
Speaker 3: and I think Miami is like a very close second,
Speaker 3: and I think third. I would say Orange County maybe
Speaker 3: right now.
Speaker 1: Right now, we haven't even seen it yet.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I mean like last season Orange County,
Speaker 3: like I was very into it in terms of like
Speaker 3: where they're at in their current casting and storylines and
Speaker 3: that kind of stuff. I think Miami is like far
Speaker 3: and away one of the best franchises. It has been fantastic,
Speaker 3: was like four years in a row season four season.
Speaker 1: They don't they don't change the cast up. No good.
Speaker 3: It is incredible. I love it so much. There's so
Speaker 3: it's like a telenovela. There's so much going on these women.
Speaker 3: To see two women fight who are the two single
Speaker 3: most selfish people you have ever seen on Bravo is
Speaker 3: so entertaining because they're both right right, they're like, you're
Speaker 3: so selfish, Just like, yeah, you're so selfish. I like
Speaker 3: loved that Lisa called that Larsa for having fake breakups
Speaker 3: because it is so goddamn true. If you are gonna
Speaker 3: break up with your boyfriend four different times, call me
Speaker 3: on the fourth time. Yeah, don't make me go up
Speaker 3: and down with you on this. I hate them. I
Speaker 3: don't hate them. I hate them. I don't hate them.
Speaker 3: I'm not even if I know you're that kind of person, Like,
Speaker 3: why should I on Instagram have to unfollow your boyfriend
Speaker 3: if a week later you're gonna be together, and then
Speaker 3: you're gonna be pissed that I don't follow your boyfriends?
Speaker 1: Right, right, right right? That's so funny.
Speaker 3: It's I love the Lisa versus Larsa is like everything
Speaker 3: to me because they're just so they're both terrible friends.
Speaker 2: Did you know that Lisa has launched a app split?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 3: Is that like for divorcing?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's sort of like what people use, like
Speaker 2: they use the parent Wizard, you know, when they get
Speaker 2: divorced and they're only allowed to talk through the family
Speaker 2: Wizard or whatever. It's like that for divorced people, and
Speaker 2: it like helps you find a lawyer. And you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: I heard about it because she was on Heather McDonald's podcast.
Speaker 2: You're talking about the thing, but she was really promoting
Speaker 2: her new app. Now what I found. First of all,
Speaker 2: Maysol is my favorite human that's ever been on The
Speaker 2: Vision ever funny.
Speaker 3: Her mother was one of my favorites.
Speaker 2: So great, and Maysol is really picks up the mantle.
Speaker 2: She's really she's really killing it. I just love her
Speaker 2: so much. I love her so much, Steve, I love
Speaker 2: her so much. And I love the bro Bro Bro. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I love the bro because that's all we do in
Speaker 2: our house is bro Bro but not homie like on
Speaker 2: the diet Coke. But I got to tell you that
Speaker 2: this week with the AC and Jody being gotta go
Speaker 2: get this AC, the AC is really good in this room.
Speaker 2: You should come back here and do you want to
Speaker 2: go in the room for the AC? When I tell
Speaker 2: you the way I died and the way that some
Speaker 2: people are like it's so weird, Like did they not
Speaker 2: have air conditioning the rest of the apartment.
Speaker 1: I was like, are you stupid? Like what I the
Speaker 1: shade and the way that the.
Speaker 2: Cameraman was just positioned right outside that door catching all
Speaker 2: the audio.
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, I definitely think that there were drugs being
Speaker 3: consumed in that. I don't know that they used a
Speaker 3: C to like mean the drugs, Like I truly think that.
Speaker 1: I don't know AC means adult candy. It's right, I know, but.
Speaker 3: Like Jody was pretty adamant that that's not what it
Speaker 3: was and he didn't you say that?
Speaker 1: And who cares?
Speaker 3: He did say it on Instagram and he was like
Speaker 3: and if I'm doing it, like why is that a
Speaker 3: big deal? Like that's not what we were talking about.
Speaker 3: But I so he used to live in d C. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I know people that knew him, Yes, and they
Speaker 3: say very positive things about him. So I think he's lovely.
Speaker 3: I'm sure they all do drugs. I'm sure, especially if
Speaker 3: he's hanging out with Marcus Jordan. We've literally physically seen
Speaker 3: pictures of Marcus doing drugs. I was like, that's so
Speaker 3: embarrassing to my family.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, you were dating a man for four years younger
Speaker 1: than you. What are you talking about.
Speaker 3: You're dating someone that you met when he was a child. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's that's embarrassing to your family.
Speaker 2: Back to Jodie, he was doing cocaine. He was doing
Speaker 2: cocaine in that room. I don't care. If you know
Speaker 2: somebody that knows him and says he's nice, that doesn't
Speaker 2: mean he wasn't doing it.
Speaker 3: Think. I just don't know if the whole ac thing
Speaker 3: was like code, like I feel yes, I feel like
Speaker 3: that was like acting like it's like a bunch of
Speaker 3: like cousins who are at Thanksgiving that are like trying
Speaker 3: to like sneak outside to smoke a bowl, and they're
Speaker 3: like over using the whatever the like word is for pot. Yeah,
Speaker 3: because once.
Speaker 1: They started storting the coke, they got real excited and
Speaker 1: wanted to keep saying.
Speaker 3: That makes more sense.
Speaker 2: This is good icy, It's good. I s's is the best.
Speaker 2: I see, Wow, this is your friend. Gave me some
Speaker 2: good ic in this room.
Speaker 3: I mean, come, yeah, it was pretty funny.
Speaker 1: It was so great. I love a Bravo moment when
Speaker 1: they troll people like that.
Speaker 3: And I cannot believe that Larsa was like, how dare
Speaker 3: you follow my my ex boyfriend on Instagram and hang
Speaker 3: out with him? It's like a cloud chaser. I am sorry,
Speaker 3: Marcus Jordan is not Michael Jordan. If it was Michael Jordan, yes,
Speaker 3: you could accuse someone of clout chasing. There is no
Speaker 3: clout to be chased with Marcus Jordan. I would have
Speaker 3: had no idea who he was if he even date you, Larsa.
Speaker 1: I think if.
Speaker 2: Larsa said this is my boyfriend Marcus Jordan, it would
Speaker 2: not occurred to me that that person was related to
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan.
Speaker 3: Never.
Speaker 2: Never, I'd be like, oh, it's just some dude she
Speaker 2: met that she's dating. I mean yeah, And.
Speaker 3: Like for her to say that he was texting, I
Speaker 3: don't know. I think she's like I do not side
Speaker 3: with her on anything. I think she lies about everything.
Speaker 3: We found her line like ever since she said to
Speaker 3: doctor Nicole, what all you do is put people to sleep?
Speaker 3: I actually work. She said that to an anesthesiologist. I
Speaker 3: like cannot take a single thing she says seriously, like
Speaker 3: absolutely nothing. So when she's like, oh, he is like
Speaker 3: sending me message that are threatening and literally the messages
Speaker 3: are please stop contacting my friends, like, I'm sorry, I
Speaker 3: take Marcus's side of the breakout.
Speaker 1: Oh you got Marcus in the breakup? The other fan.
Speaker 3: Get Marcus, Jody and Lisa.
Speaker 1: Wow, you're winning. Listen.
Speaker 2: All I want is Marisol, That's all I want.
Speaker 3: And Alexia, Oh my god. Alexia is so like, how
Speaker 3: do all these things happen to me? But then never
Speaker 3: sees how the choices that she makes? Yes, me too,
Speaker 3: Like you just you married a like renown drug dealer
Speaker 3: and you knew right that that's what his job was,
Speaker 3: so like, you're inviting chaos. Then I don't know all
Speaker 3: about herman, right, I don't know all of his background
Speaker 3: and all that, But like, I think people were telling
Speaker 3: you that he was not into women, and you again
Speaker 3: just ignored it, and then you went for this man.
Speaker 3: And I thought that, like she really liked him and
Speaker 3: that he was good for her family. But when Julia said,
Speaker 3: did you was he nice? Was he kind to your boys?
Speaker 3: And she said no, I'm like, Alexia, there's no one
Speaker 3: more important to you than Frankie and Peter. Why would
Speaker 3: you agree to marry someone and be with someone that
Speaker 3: mistreats your kids?
Speaker 1: Do you know?
Speaker 2: I never watched one episode of Miami until I saw
Speaker 2: Alexia and Marisol on that Ultimate Girls Trip.
Speaker 3: No way you didn't watch it until then, and I was.
Speaker 2: Like, who are these magical creatures? I love them with
Speaker 2: the bro and the accents. I was like, I love them,
Speaker 2: and I binged Real Housewives to Miami from season one
Speaker 2: to now.
Speaker 3: Oh my god. Season two of the Real house with
Speaker 3: Miami is one of the best seasons ever.
Speaker 1: I mean, you would have to.
Speaker 3: It doesn't age well though, because they bring in Joe
Speaker 3: Francis and it's clear like there's like a storyline in
Speaker 3: that where he has sex with an underage girl or
Speaker 3: like that's mentioned, and everyone's like making it seem like
Speaker 3: it's no big deal. And I was, remember, that's clearly
Speaker 3: pretty me too.
Speaker 2: And Larsa is speaking of her housekeeper and.
Speaker 1: Calls her some kind of racial slur. I can't remember, but.
Speaker 3: It's just so terrible.
Speaker 2: But I remember thinking like, oh, that didn't what she
Speaker 2: called her. I can't remember. It wasn't that bad, but
Speaker 2: it was like, oh, that would make it on TV today.
Speaker 3: There was a bunch of stuff. Also. I think Leah Black,
Speaker 3: I think her husband was Jeffrey Epstein's lawyer. He was yeah,
Speaker 3: he was. So she didn't age well either.
Speaker 2: No, no, well she's just very into everybody needs a
Speaker 2: proper defense, even the horrible people.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Wow, well yeah, because I loved them on Ultimate Girls Trip.
Speaker 2: I did go back and start at season one, episode one,
Speaker 2: Real Housewives in Miami.
Speaker 3: How shocked were you when you found out that Martina
Speaker 3: and ever Tolova is on Loss Miami.
Speaker 2: It's so crazy between that and like somebody in my
Speaker 2: family will walk through the room and be like, yeah,
Speaker 2: is that Martina and Averagaroova, like yes, she's on the
Speaker 2: Real Housewives and Amy like what.
Speaker 3: Yes, no, it is so my dad grew up in
Speaker 3: the USSR and she was like huge in the seventies.
Speaker 1: Of course.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know as part of the US is
Speaker 3: like trucks Away was part of the USSR. And so
Speaker 3: he was walking by and he literally stopped in his
Speaker 3: tracks and he goes, are you watching to show about tennis?
Speaker 3: And we like no, no, and he's like, but that's
Speaker 3: that's Martina, never to live up the best, to ever
Speaker 3: do it? Yes, yes, And I was like, she's married
Speaker 3: to a Real Housewife of Miami and he goes, oh,
Speaker 3: how a mighty and fallen. Right.
Speaker 1: That's what my husband said when he walked by the TV.
Speaker 1: It's all Charles Oakley on the TV.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that is that One's a really good one,
Speaker 3: like the nineties, like a stars.
Speaker 2: He was in the kitchen, in the kitchen and he
Speaker 2: sees on the TV Charles Oakley in the kitchen and
Speaker 2: he goes, is that Charles Oakley the basketball? I go yeah,
Speaker 2: and I pause it and I go he is married
Speaker 2: to this woman that's on Real Housewives of Atlanta. And
Speaker 2: he was like what he was so upset, he was
Speaker 2: so mad. He was like like he's mad that like
Speaker 2: his world is going in with my world. And he's like,
Speaker 2: that's not he shouldn't be on that show.
Speaker 1: He's better than that. I'm like, apparently not.
Speaker 3: Well. My dad did stay to watch a scene, and
Speaker 3: I think it was when they were arguing about the
Speaker 3: farm and how like Julia had her farm in Howard County,
Speaker 3: and my dad just like thought she was so lovely
Speaker 3: and thought that Julia was so funny that he was
Speaker 3: just like, oh, I love these people.
Speaker 1: Julia is so perfect.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I know. You think of all the like online
Speaker 3: drama that's happening where like Gertie is posting receipts about
Speaker 3: I can't like understand why what Julia did was so bad.
Speaker 2: Okay, so I haven't seen anything other than what was
Speaker 2: on the show. Have a zoom call with all her
Speaker 2: friends to announce that they were adopting these two boys.
Speaker 1: Great.
Speaker 2: Gertie got into the call, nobody was there. She had
Speaker 2: to do a work thing, so she logged off the call,
Speaker 2: and then she sent her a text and said, hey,
Speaker 2: I had to log off.
Speaker 1: I had to go to work. Then what happened? She
Speaker 1: didn't know what it was going to be.
Speaker 2: She didn't know, so she texted she said, you'll have
Speaker 2: to find out with the rest of the world.
Speaker 3: So what it was, I think nicer than Matt. It
Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, so work like my hands
Speaker 3: are full. You'll understand when you see like I'm doing
Speaker 3: my phone Like that's what I thought the message was.
Speaker 2: I thought it was like, you'll have to find out
Speaker 2: when the press release comes out.
Speaker 3: That too. Yeah, but like I think the press release
Speaker 3: had come out, like I think that she gathered them
Speaker 3: and like two minutes later the press release went out
Speaker 3: to like page six or whatever.
Speaker 1: Oh, like the Jackson Brittany Divorgers.
Speaker 3: I think she was like ready to release it to
Speaker 3: you know, pr and then was like, oh, crap, I
Speaker 3: should probably tell my friends so that they don't feel
Speaker 3: like I released it and didn't tell them.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: So I think she gathered everyone and then like Gerdie
Speaker 3: just didn't make it, and so she's like, okay, well
Speaker 3: you can see now a.
Speaker 1: Julia was really upset about it.
Speaker 2: She felt like it was disrespectful of Gerdie not to
Speaker 2: be there and what are what are the online that is?
Speaker 3: That's stupid. I don't understand. It's the text messages and
Speaker 3: Gerty is trying to like post to prove her point,
Speaker 3: but I don't like clearly like she didn't like what
Speaker 3: Julia said. But I just I don't know. If it
Speaker 3: was me, I would just be like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: that's so amazing and then find a way to like
Speaker 3: show my friend how amazing it is, regardless of how
Speaker 3: I found out about it. And I think she got salty,
Speaker 3: and then I think Julia got salty back too. I
Speaker 3: think she thought what Julia did was salty, and I
Speaker 3: think what Julia was doing was like I literally actually
Speaker 3: have the kids with me and cannot.
Speaker 1: Like discuss at the moment, Yeah.
Speaker 3: That's the way I took it. But I then I
Speaker 3: need to reread it because I was like, am I underreacting?
Speaker 3: Like I just didn't think it was that big of
Speaker 3: a deal. But Gerty and then doctor Nicole came out
Speaker 3: in defensive girty and then someone else came out in
Speaker 3: defensive girty, and so I was like, is Julia just
Speaker 3: being like unnecessarily problematic?
Speaker 2: Like I don't know, maybe she's just like super sensitive
Speaker 2: around the topic.
Speaker 3: I think so, because when when the topic was brought up,
Speaker 3: they were kind of silent. Remember at the party at
Speaker 3: Jodie's party, they were like uh huh, and she's like,
Speaker 3: I know, to talk about it now, but just.
Speaker 2: Well, I think that they're very much trying to be like, Okay,
Speaker 2: we've got these kids and they're trying to acclimate to
Speaker 2: a new family. We're not going to show them at
Speaker 2: all on the show or anything. I think that that's
Speaker 2: a really good choice. So now, I mean, it's a
Speaker 2: three year old and one year old and they've just
Speaker 2: we don't know what their circumstances were, where they came from,
Speaker 2: and to have them you know, dropped into the fancy
Speaker 2: Fancyville is probably jarring. Yeah, but I do eventually would
Speaker 2: like to know more about them. I think that's a
Speaker 2: great story. How old is Martina and Avatarolova?
Speaker 1: Not to be rude, do not know?
Speaker 3: I know Julia is like maybe in her early fifties.
Speaker 1: But Martinez like in her seventies.
Speaker 3: Should I google?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Google? It is telling. I mean, listen, no shame
Speaker 1: she could do whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think Kelsey Grammer just announced he's
Speaker 2: having his fourteenth child.
Speaker 3: She's sixty eight.
Speaker 1: Okay, she's sixty eight.
Speaker 2: Well, sixty eight is grandma aged to have a one
Speaker 2: in a three But that's okay?
Speaker 3: Like, think of how many grandparents are raising their grandkids
Speaker 3: these days. Yeah, like, how is this?
Speaker 1: Listen?
Speaker 2: Obviously the two of them were filming quite a bit,
Speaker 2: so they obviously have a couple of helpers.
Speaker 3: Oh no, totally. I'm just saying that, like in general,
Speaker 3: like adopting or having children at that age, Like, how
Speaker 3: is it that different from people who are being raised
Speaker 3: by their grandparents. Yeah, like grandparents are going to die
Speaker 3: much younger. But like you never know what you're gonna get.
Speaker 2: You know, you need to get Jesse's therapist and to
Speaker 2: talk to these children about death.
Speaker 3: The Life Coach and just have them in the screaming
Speaker 3: to a pillow.
Speaker 2: Scot the Life Coach who next week Jack's is like,
Speaker 2: got a lot of angry iss us to take it
Speaker 2: out of my wife.
Speaker 1: So I was saying, I wonder if.
Speaker 2: Scott the Life Coach is like on beep he just
Speaker 2: stands behind Jackson's like, here's what you're supposed to say. No,
Speaker 2: you don't yell stupid whore, you drink too much? No, No,
Speaker 2: what you say is yes to whatever she says.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know that Jack's understands that his behavior
Speaker 3: is abuse. Oh no. And that's the thing is, it's like,
Speaker 3: this is abuse.
Speaker 2: No, Amanda, you would say the same thing. If you
Speaker 2: found that out, you would do the same thing. Everybody
Speaker 2: would do the same thing.
Speaker 3: Come on, Like, it's so crazy to spy and to
Speaker 3: like say, I have people looking.
Speaker 2: For you and everybody knows you're drinking. Everybody she can drink.
Speaker 2: She could go out and drink all she wants.
Speaker 3: He just is like they're out there having fun, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, you literally are not in the mindset to
Speaker 3: get how like if you have FOMO and you're in
Speaker 3: rehab and You're only focused on filming and who is
Speaker 3: that which event? And like, yes, yes, it's all about that,
Speaker 3: and not asking to see your son. And then he's like,
Speaker 3: she keeps her from she was keeping here. She said
Speaker 3: she wasn't ready. That is not true. He's lied. He
Speaker 3: just died. You go get botox, you go get your
Speaker 3: hair cut, you do everything, but reach out to Brittany.
Speaker 3: And he's like, I'm blocked. She unblocked you. Why don't
Speaker 3: you even try?
Speaker 1: Oh he tried burner.
Speaker 3: That was one of the funniest things.
Speaker 2: I love how Jackson he did say I watch What
Speaker 2: Happens Live. He goes, everybody has one. If they say
Speaker 2: they don't, their line short, like I don't.
Speaker 3: I know. That is so funny. So I think the
Speaker 3: whole thing with the burner is like people do have
Speaker 3: them so that they can like stock people who black.
Speaker 3: I guess, I don't know.
Speaker 1: They don't have a comment, but.
Speaker 3: They don't comment or like pretend to be a different
Speaker 3: alias Jack Sailor.
Speaker 1: He's a legend. I love it.
Speaker 2: Gana goes, I am so second and embarrassed for him,
Speaker 2: and then Brittany goes, But I don't want him to
Speaker 2: find out because I want to keep troubling him.
Speaker 3: It's so crazy. I love that Brittany finally broke free,
Speaker 3: and I know it's so hard, right, but like she's
Speaker 3: doing so right by her son, and she's so smart
Speaker 3: and you know, getting Like the one thing that she said,
Speaker 3: I think before even the beginning of the season, in
Speaker 3: an interview or on a podcast that stuck with me
Speaker 3: is she said, when you're with someone who's abusive, it
Speaker 3: changes your brain. And so it like changes, it rewires things,
Speaker 3: and you get used to things that other people find abnormal,
Speaker 3: but you just think are part of the way life is.
Speaker 3: And it takes a really long time to unlearn those
Speaker 3: things and to rewire your brain to be healthy. And
Speaker 3: so when she said that, I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: can you imagine being with Jax Taylor for ten years.
Speaker 3: I don't care people say she did it for fame.
Speaker 3: She did for whatever. Her brain was being like manipulated
Speaker 3: and ruined by him, and she's taking a very strong
Speaker 3: stand and being very you know, amazing and trying to
Speaker 3: like undo all of this and get professional help and
Speaker 3: lean on experts and lean on that divorce lawyer who's
Speaker 3: telling her this is not okay. Right, and I just
Speaker 3: think that's that's kind of a very strong person. I
Speaker 3: feel like everyone is just shitting on her. She should
Speaker 3: have known, she should have known, my God, Like, I
Speaker 3: just don't feel like we need to go down that road.
Speaker 2: I loved the divorce lawyer. He did say I watch
Speaker 2: what happens, like that their divorce will be final like
Speaker 2: July something.
Speaker 3: So I'm I'm like, they're filming season three when she
Speaker 3: gets to party and celebrate.
Speaker 2: Well so, because it's airing right now and they usually
Speaker 2: film in the summer.
Speaker 3: Interesting, I don't know, maybe they'll move it back just
Speaker 3: a couple months because of the babies.
Speaker 1: Right right, didn't you have? Her baby?
Speaker 3: Name is Adelaide?
Speaker 1: Adelaide? Okay cute, very cute, cute. And then Kristin had her.
Speaker 3: Baby, Kaya Lily Kaya.
Speaker 1: Kaya is the most normal thing Kristin gonna come up with.
Speaker 3: Do you think rely beautiful? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I really thought she would name for kids something like ocean,
Speaker 2: like something real weird.
Speaker 3: So it is related to ocean, so like I forgot
Speaker 3: what Kaya means, but it's something like related to the
Speaker 3: water in Hawaii, like where they got engaged.
Speaker 1: So it's not ka i a Kaya Oh it is okay.
Speaker 3: Kaya, meaning Hawaiian. I'm googling she probably it means c.
Speaker 1: And Kayak Garbers are really pretty model. I think I
Speaker 1: want to name her after her.
Speaker 3: So it's definitely ocean related, ocean adjacent. Okay, well, a
Speaker 3: very pretty name for that.
Speaker 1: Do I like the name Kaya?
Speaker 3: So that's me too.
Speaker 2: I don't think we have anybody else to talk about.
Speaker 2: We got Miami, we got Atlanta, we got.
Speaker 1: The Valley, we got love Hotel.
Speaker 2: Thoughts on the care and retrial because I watched every
Speaker 2: single minute and.
Speaker 3: I don't know who she is. I'm so sorry I
Speaker 3: did not pay attention. I could give you lots of
Speaker 3: thoughts on the Supreme Court rulines from today, but I
Speaker 3: don't need nothing from.
Speaker 1: I don't need I don't need any of that.
Speaker 2: Okay, tell me what's going on with your show when
Speaker 2: it comes out where people can find it and all
Speaker 2: that jazz.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me, Mary Payne. You
Speaker 3: know I'm a huge, huge fan of Pink Shade, Love you,
Speaker 3: love Ingrid, love all of your guests. Yes, So my
Speaker 3: show is called Is This Real Life? And it is
Speaker 3: a primarily Bravo podcast and it comes out on Sundays
Speaker 3: at seven am Eastern and you can find me at
Speaker 3: Mandy Slutsker on Instagram. And I think I'm on Twitter,
Speaker 3: but I'm really trying to like remove myself from that narrative.
Speaker 3: It was really fun the day that Elin and Trump
Speaker 3: were fighting and like, you know, like get like pulled
Speaker 3: back in, like how Brittany was getting pulled back in
Speaker 3: by Jack's. Yes, that's how it felt on that day
Speaker 3: on Twitter. But I am trying to remove myself from there.
Speaker 3: But yeah, you can reach me, and as I always say,
Speaker 3: if you have trouble finding me, just type in Mandy
Speaker 3: and then slut and I magically appear. Because my last
Speaker 3: name is Sleutscar.
Speaker 1: It is weird that that's what appears and not a
Speaker 1: porn site.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, it's just just keep it that way.
Speaker 2: Everybody keep your finger across for me. I mean that
Speaker 2: some major porn star doesn't come up with me, ter
Speaker 2: be bad for your brand.
Speaker 1: Everybody.
Speaker 2: You can follow me at Pink Shade Pod and let's
Speaker 2: see today's Thursday. So later this week Friday, I'll have
Speaker 2: an episode out with Jake of Reality Gaze. We're going
Speaker 2: to be talking about ninety day Hunt for Love. Next
Speaker 2: week with Keisha. I've got TLC's Virgins ninety day Fiance.
Speaker 2: Not sure who my co host will be and in
Speaker 2: this slot pop It Bravo. Next week in this slot
Speaker 2: will be an episode with christ Rosa, Bravo TV producer.
Speaker 2: But we're gonna be talking about the Netflix documentary The
Speaker 2: Mayor of Mayhem, So everybody go and watch that on Netflix.
Speaker 2: The first train it was called train Wreck ASTROI World,
Speaker 2: and then the second one is train Wreck Mayor of Mayhem,
Speaker 2: which is about this Toronto mayor. So each there's a
Speaker 2: train wreck and they're doing each one. They're doing one
Speaker 2: a week. So I love to talk about anything not
Speaker 2: Bravo with christ Rosa because since he works for them,
Speaker 2: he's not allowed to talk about it. So he comes
Speaker 2: on and talks about I think sometimes I get some
Speaker 2: scoop out of him. And thank you, Mandy, and I
Speaker 2: will talk to you soon.