1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:45,439 Speaker 1: Wait, you're listening to Petlifradio dot com. 2 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,079 Speaker 2: And welcome, Welcome everybody on this great Sunday morning. 3 00:00:28,199 --> 00:00:30,359 Speaker 3: You're here live with doctor Jeff. 4 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,759 Speaker 2: Werber hosts for the next thirty minutes on Askibet with 5 00:00:32,799 --> 00:00:36,039 Doctor Jeff, the I think only live calling show here 6 00:00:36,079 --> 00:00:38,119 on pet Life Radio, and we're here for you. We're 7 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:39,799 here for your pets. We're here to have a good time, 8 00:00:40,119 --> 00:00:42,840 answer your questions, whatever they may be. Just give me 9 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:44,479 a call. 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And as I said, we're 22 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,159 I always have an alternative plan as far as what 23 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:19,439 we're going to do but I really want to hear 24 00:01:19,439 --> 00:01:21,599 from you. We've had some great questions lately. You can 25 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,519 send me emails. If you're an embarrassed or shy, just 26 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,640 send me an email to doctor Jeff at Petlife Radio 27 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,640 dot com. They'll be forwarded to me and we can 28 00:01:29,799 --> 00:01:33,239 read them live next week on the air, and that'd 29 00:01:33,239 --> 00:01:36,200 be great. So, speaking of next week, I'm going to 30 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:40,079 be live I think next week, but I'm leaving for Lima, Peru. 31 00:01:40,599 --> 00:01:43,560 I have been invited to speak at the Latin American 32 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,400 Veterinari Conference and also given the opportunity to speak at 33 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,519 two veterinary schools in Lima, and we're going to do 34 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:52,159 a spae neoter clinic, teaching the students some tricks of 35 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,280 the trade when it comes to Spain Hooter. So looking 36 00:01:54,319 --> 00:01:56,799 forward to that, and then get to speak at the conference, 37 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,359 have six hours of lecture, so it'll be pretty cool. 38 00:01:59,359 --> 00:02:02,400 I will definitely report back to upon my return, letting 39 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,120 you know what it's like in Lima, what the state 40 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,760 of Verney medicine is in Lima. But I'm really looking 41 00:02:06,799 --> 00:02:09,159 forward to Last time, actually I was in Peru. I 42 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,840 had a great experience. I went over there with a 43 00:02:12,159 --> 00:02:15,400 group called Amazon Cares and it is started by a 44 00:02:15,439 --> 00:02:18,879 women out of New York and it is a charity 45 00:02:19,319 --> 00:02:23,280 that spends a lot of time and money bringing veterinarians 46 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:27,960 into the Amazon Jungle, a town out just on the Amazon. 47 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,800 They call it the Western Gateway to the Amazon, So 48 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,520 it's that small part of the Amazon River in Jungle 49 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,280 that is actually in Peru as opposed to Brazil. And 50 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,719 the town is called Akitos and Bilen, and they have 51 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:45,039 a huge problem with pet overpopulation. There are literally literally 52 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,560 dogs are running the town. They're all over the place. 53 00:02:47,599 --> 00:02:50,199 They are in the worst conditions imaginable. And I'd seen 54 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,199 pictures of the state of these dogs and cats and 55 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,919 I was so concerned. So I signed up and went 56 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,120 over there about three years ago, and it was the 57 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,560 most amazing experience. We literally trapped and caught these dogs. 58 00:03:01,879 --> 00:03:06,919 We vaccinated, we spade or neutered, We removed tumors, We 59 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:08,879 just whatever we can do to fix them up, started 60 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,240 heartworm treatment, whatever it was we can do, we did, 61 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,439 and then we just had to let them go. But 62 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:18,560 they were all now fixed, spade neutered, so everybody knew. 63 00:03:18,599 --> 00:03:20,439 We trimmed the ears on the dog, so it was 64 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,759 just an amazing, amazing experience. The veterinarian, the local vet there. 65 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,479 It's a husband wife team. She does small animal, he 66 00:03:26,479 --> 00:03:29,840 does large animal, and it's really the only veterinany hospital 67 00:03:29,879 --> 00:03:33,479 in Akitos, and she is overwhelmed and she can't do 68 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,759 it all. In Ord Doeres, she have the ability to 69 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,080 do this without pay or else she can't keep her 70 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,360 doors open. So it was just an amazing experience. The 71 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:45,360 money comes in from Amazon Cares. It's a great organization, 72 00:03:45,639 --> 00:03:47,719 and you know, there are organizations like this around the world. 73 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,199 One is called World Vets that sends veterinarians to other 74 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:50,960 parts of the world. 75 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 3: And anyway, it was great. 76 00:03:52,919 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 2: One of the talks I'm actually giving at the show 77 00:03:55,319 --> 00:03:58,599 is all about that experience and the goal being which 78 00:03:58,719 --> 00:04:00,560 you know, this was so interesting as well, is that 79 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,719 when we have when you look at the veterinarians the world, 80 00:04:03,759 --> 00:04:06,080 you look at the quality and the state of veterinary 81 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:10,479 medicine around the world, arguably, arguably United States is at 82 00:04:10,479 --> 00:04:12,879 the top of the game. And what's so interesting when 83 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:17,040 talking to this Molly Mendicau over at Amazon Cares and asked. 84 00:04:16,879 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 3: Her how many how many US vets do you get? 85 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 4: There? 86 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,879 Speaker 2: I mean, are we underrepresented? Are we overrepresented? And she said, sadly, 87 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:24,279 we are underrepresented. 88 00:04:24,319 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 3: So here we are that. 89 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 2: You know, the most advanced veterinary medicine in the in 90 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,560 the world is coming out of the US North America, certainly, 91 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,439 and we are the most underrepresented. A few of the 92 00:04:34,439 --> 00:04:37,120 other vets that I worked with there during my trip 93 00:04:37,319 --> 00:04:40,040 were from Australia, New Zealand and one from Italy. And 94 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,160 I asked, I asked the end. They're all younger, and 95 00:04:42,199 --> 00:04:44,240 I asked, I said, how often? I mean, how many 96 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:45,879 students do you do this? It was amazing. 97 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 3: She said that. 98 00:04:46,759 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 2: Probably in their graduating class, seventy or eighty percent of 99 00:04:51,079 --> 00:04:55,040 their classmates will at some point in their first five 100 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,519 years of practice make a trip like this, take off 101 00:04:58,519 --> 00:05:01,800 two weeks and go somewhere in the world to help animals. Indeed, 102 00:05:02,079 --> 00:05:04,000 and I thought that was so amazing because until I 103 00:05:04,079 --> 00:05:06,279 heard about this, we had never gotten this. I mean, 104 00:05:06,319 --> 00:05:08,199 I know very few. I reported back to a number 105 00:05:08,199 --> 00:05:10,319 of my classmates when I came back and told them 106 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,800 just about the amazing experience, and they all said the 107 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:14,360 same thing, said, Jeff, sign me up. 108 00:05:14,439 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 3: Whenever you're gonna do it again. Just let me know. 109 00:05:16,639 --> 00:05:19,439 Speaker 2: That sounds like a great trip. I mean here, you know, look, 110 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,399 I just got back from a ski snowboarding trip with veterinarians. 111 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,120 We do stuff like that, right, Yeah, we need our break. 112 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:26,839 It's great to get away and have a vacation for 113 00:05:26,879 --> 00:05:29,240 three or four days, but to do something like that 114 00:05:29,319 --> 00:05:32,759 where there's so much good involved, that is great. Anyway, 115 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,879 So I'm heading back to Peru. Unfortunately not going to 116 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,319 Akitos this time, but I'm hoping that being able to 117 00:05:39,399 --> 00:05:43,519 interact with many other veterinarians from around South America and 118 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,560 also react and interact with students, that I will be 119 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,120 able to do some good things. So anyway, again, I 120 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,399 want to welcome you to stay with me for the 121 00:05:53,439 --> 00:05:56,800 next well now less than thirty minutes. And I want 122 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,959 to take our sponsors pro Sens pet products, veterinary quality 123 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:04,680 products available to you at over the counter mass market prices, 124 00:06:04,759 --> 00:06:08,600 and also Kong. And everybody knows Kong, and so we 125 00:06:08,639 --> 00:06:11,079 are also thank Kang for being one of our sponsors. 126 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,199 As a matter of fact, those of you who call in, 127 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,639 those of you who write in, send me an email. 128 00:06:15,759 --> 00:06:17,959 If I read your email live on air, we will 129 00:06:17,959 --> 00:06:20,160 go ahead and send you out a cong product and 130 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,800 a pro sense product, and be patient because we have 131 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:24,720 to get them from Kong and then concents to us, 132 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,199 and then we'll in turn send them to you. But 133 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,240 we will get them out to and if you don't, 134 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,519 if you haven't in a several weeks, please just send 135 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,879 me an email to Drjeff Doctor Jeff at petlife radio 136 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:35,920 dot com. 137 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:37,959 Speaker 3: So we have been over the last. 138 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 2: Few weeks talking about I like to go through different 139 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,040 organ systems. I'm finding that many of you out there 140 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,480 aren't as well informed as we would like you to be, 141 00:06:45,519 --> 00:06:46,959 and I think you should be that if you're going 142 00:06:46,959 --> 00:06:50,040 to go into your veterinarian and conversations will be had 143 00:06:50,319 --> 00:06:52,680 as far as what should be done, what are the 144 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,720 possibilities of what's going on. I truly believe that you 145 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,319 should be better informed so you can actually actively participate. 146 00:06:59,399 --> 00:07:01,839 So when it comes to making decisions about what tests 147 00:07:01,879 --> 00:07:03,920 to do or not to do, you'll have a better idea. 148 00:07:03,959 --> 00:07:05,759 And of course if you have any questions, guess what, 149 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,519 Listen in on Sunday and give me a call and say, hey, 150 00:07:08,639 --> 00:07:11,319 this is what's going on, this is what the doctor recommended. 151 00:07:11,639 --> 00:07:13,240 What do you think? Where do you go from here, 152 00:07:13,399 --> 00:07:16,000 and I will certainly help you sift through. I can 153 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,199 only give you suggestions obviously without having your dog in 154 00:07:18,199 --> 00:07:19,480 front of me or your cat in front of me, 155 00:07:19,759 --> 00:07:21,759 and then being able to feel and see for myself. 156 00:07:21,879 --> 00:07:23,639 But based on what you're telling me, I can give 157 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:25,680 you some ideas, some suggestions that you can then at 158 00:07:25,759 --> 00:07:28,879 least take back to your veterinarian. So we've been talking 159 00:07:28,959 --> 00:07:33,199 about some respiratory issues of late and the different respiratory diseases. 160 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:37,279 We're talking about some of the infectious diseases as a puppy. 161 00:07:37,279 --> 00:07:39,439 For example, the most common is going to be what 162 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,199 we call kennel cough. And once again I like to 163 00:07:42,319 --> 00:07:45,120 not call it kennel cough because depending on where you 164 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,600 live and how prevalent I like to call it. 165 00:07:47,639 --> 00:07:48,439 Speaker 3: For me, it's live in. 166 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,959 Speaker 2: La cough, take your dog to the beach cough, take 167 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,439 a walk on Melrose cough. I mean, it's everywhere. You 168 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:54,600 go to the vet, go to the groom, We're going 169 00:07:54,639 --> 00:07:57,120 to the doggy daycare. With our active lifestyles, dogs are 170 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,839 going to doggy parks. It's everywhere. So I just don't 171 00:07:59,879 --> 00:08:04,279 like used term kennel cough anymore. But infectious tracheo bronchitis. 172 00:08:04,399 --> 00:08:07,879 It is contagious. It is infectious. Fortunately it's not that serious. 173 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,439 As puppies, we also have to worry about pneumonia, and 174 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,279 not just pneumonia, but also canine distemper virus, which early 175 00:08:14,319 --> 00:08:14,800 in the stages. 176 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:15,959 Speaker 3: If you have canine. 177 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,439 Speaker 2: Distemper virus, which is a virus as we discussed, that 178 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:22,759 likes epithelial surfaces, it seems to attack epithelial surfaces. It 179 00:08:23,079 --> 00:08:26,600 often starts in the lungs and the early signs are cough, 180 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,000 and then it goes into possible pneumonia, and you have 181 00:08:29,079 --> 00:08:32,639 no idea what you're treating, and it's very difficult to diagnose. 182 00:08:32,639 --> 00:08:35,639 It's expensive something called the PCR tests. But my feeling 183 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:37,399 is this, you're going to treat it no matter what. 184 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,200 There are dogs that beat distemper if it's in the 185 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,919 respiratory phase. There are dogs that have beaten distemper in 186 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,720 the gastrointestinal phase, dogs that have beaten distemper in the 187 00:08:45,799 --> 00:08:48,639 skin phase. The only time that I would say, you 188 00:08:48,639 --> 00:08:50,240 know what, it might be time to say, you know, 189 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,240 let's call it quits because this virus is taking over 190 00:08:53,639 --> 00:08:56,759 is if it hits the central nervous system. If it 191 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:01,879 actually starts causing neurologic deficits we call chomping fits, then 192 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:03,519 it's a tough one to be dead. Those are the 193 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,320 ones that usually end up needing to be put to sleep. 194 00:09:05,639 --> 00:09:08,480 Of course, if the respiratory issue, if it turns into 195 00:09:08,519 --> 00:09:10,759 such a full blown pneumonia where they can't breathe, if 196 00:09:10,799 --> 00:09:13,879 it turns into severe vomiting and diarrhea, then of course 197 00:09:14,159 --> 00:09:15,799 that needs to be considered as well. But you have 198 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:19,840 to understand one saying we cannot treat distemper, we can't 199 00:09:19,879 --> 00:09:22,080 cure it, I should say that differently. We can control it, 200 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,960 we can keep the animal built up, we can give 201 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,759 the animal its nutrients, we can help stop some of 202 00:09:27,799 --> 00:09:29,279 the clinical disease, but. 203 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 3: We can't cure it. 204 00:09:30,279 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 2: The only being that can cure a virus is that 205 00:09:34,279 --> 00:09:37,159 being itself. That means, whether it's parvo, whether it's just temper, 206 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:41,679 we require the dog's body, the dog's own immune system, 207 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,000 to beat the virus. All we can do is try 208 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,480 to give it as many tools as we can to 209 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:51,039 do that. There are no really acceptable, great anti viral drugs, 210 00:09:51,039 --> 00:09:53,159 even drugs that a lot of us use. And admittedly, 211 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,039 when it comes to some of these viruses like a 212 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,480 tamilflu A lot of the experts saying no, no, no, 213 00:09:57,519 --> 00:09:59,480 that's not doing it. You know, it might make you 214 00:09:59,519 --> 00:10:02,919 feel good, but still to this day and age, until 215 00:10:02,919 --> 00:10:07,159 we have a specific anti distemper drug, we need to 216 00:10:07,399 --> 00:10:08,960 do what we do and that support of care. So 217 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:10,360 now let's go back to our So you have a 218 00:10:10,399 --> 00:10:13,120 dog and you know it's distemper. You know it's distemper, 219 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,320 but as of right now, it's only intestinal or it's 220 00:10:16,399 --> 00:10:19,240 only respiratory. It has not hit the CNS, the central 221 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:20,000 nervous system yet. 222 00:10:20,039 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 3: Are you gonna give up? No, you're not going to 223 00:10:21,519 --> 00:10:22,679 give up. But the dog is. 224 00:10:22,519 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 2: Hanging in there and doing well. Continue to treat, continue 225 00:10:25,759 --> 00:10:29,200 to support, provide antibiotics, to provide against secondary infection, to 226 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,879 provide fluids which are essential, and vitamins which are essential. 227 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,080 Do it you can to keep that immune system as 228 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:40,759 healthy as possible, hopefully to beat this virus before it transmits, 229 00:10:40,799 --> 00:10:43,919 before it goes to the central nervous system. Once the 230 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,879 central nervous system is affected, then you have a tough 231 00:10:46,879 --> 00:10:49,559 battle on your hands. Most probably will give up at 232 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,360 that point. We've had some that have gotten through it, 233 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,720 but they're all there's going to be some deficiency most 234 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,279 of the time. As a matter of fact, even if 235 00:10:56,279 --> 00:10:59,240 you have a dog that has quote unquote beaten distemper 236 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,759 and it is not yet gone to the central nervous system, 237 00:11:02,879 --> 00:11:06,240 and even these dogs can suffer from something later on 238 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,840 in life called ode old dog encephalitis. So again we 239 00:11:09,919 --> 00:11:12,159 have to be very careful because it's a matter of 240 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:16,679 understanding the process, understanding that even though your dog survived, 241 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,600 then it might have another problem later on. And also 242 00:11:19,639 --> 00:11:21,960 speaking of dogs that survive, you go adopt a dog 243 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,960 from a shelter. The dog looks great, okay, and you 244 00:11:25,159 --> 00:11:27,679 look at his teeth and its teeth are like the 245 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,039 enamel is sort of eaten away. It's it's brown as discolored. 246 00:11:31,399 --> 00:11:32,039 Speaker 3: Your dog. 247 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 2: This puppy might have had distemper as a puppy. The 248 00:11:34,879 --> 00:11:37,320 two things that I'll do that it's called the enamel hypoplasia. 249 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,200 One is just temper virus. The other one is having 250 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,639 been on tetracycling as a puppy. Or mom could have 251 00:11:42,639 --> 00:11:45,840 been on tetracycline which she's nursing her puppies, and that 252 00:11:45,919 --> 00:11:47,639 also can cause enamel hypoplasia. 253 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 3: Not good for the teeth. 254 00:11:48,639 --> 00:11:50,759 Speaker 2: Now, the teeth look bad as far as as long 255 00:11:50,799 --> 00:11:52,639 as the dentin is still intact, your teeth are still 256 00:11:52,639 --> 00:11:54,759 gonna function fine, but they're not gonna look as pretty 257 00:11:54,919 --> 00:11:57,919 because they lost all their nice shiny white enamel. But 258 00:11:58,399 --> 00:12:00,720 that tells you that that dog they had this temper. 259 00:12:00,799 --> 00:12:03,240 So now you know that, yes, your dog is doing great, 260 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,279 it's happy, it's healthy, and everything is perfect. 261 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 3: It beat it. 262 00:12:06,279 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 2: But understand that down the road that may be an 263 00:12:09,039 --> 00:12:12,039 issue with old dog andcephalitis and maybe some seizures, some 264 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:15,080 neurologic problems. Just so you know what I tell you 265 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,559 not to adopt that dog. Absolutely not definitely adopted. Definitely 266 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,000 adopted if it's the right dog. Don't worry about the teeth. 267 00:12:21,039 --> 00:12:22,519 As I said, the teeth are gonna still be strong, 268 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,399 they're just not gonna look as pretty. Maybe you should 269 00:12:24,399 --> 00:12:26,799 have smiled so big for the camera. But it's gonna 270 00:12:26,799 --> 00:12:28,159 be fine. But just know in the back of your 271 00:12:28,159 --> 00:12:30,720 mind you're gonna remember, oh yeah, Doctor Jeff said that 272 00:12:30,759 --> 00:12:33,919 we have to potentially worry about something called ode old 273 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,440 dog encephalitis. So we've gone through. Now there are some 274 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:40,159 other congenital defects. There are some ciliary defects. These are 275 00:12:40,159 --> 00:12:44,000 the little tiny hairs whose job along the respiratory tree 276 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,840 is to sort of capture and eliminate some bad things, 277 00:12:47,919 --> 00:12:51,080 some debris, dirt, et cetera. And when we have a 278 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,600 ciliary defect, which can be a congenital problem, then these 279 00:12:54,639 --> 00:12:57,399 dogs are going to be more prone to coughing, more 280 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,919 prone to problem. It's more prone to getting sick or 281 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,000 I'm sort of restory disease because these cilia play a 282 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,600 very important role. So that's another thing to consider. Other 283 00:13:06,639 --> 00:13:09,600 conteneral problems we have would be the stenatic and areas. 284 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,200 We've talked many a time. As you know, I have 285 00:13:11,279 --> 00:13:13,960 my French bulldogs. One of them had these little, very 286 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:18,320 narrow nose the nostrils. That's something that requires surgical repair. 287 00:13:18,519 --> 00:13:22,200 And also often with these short faced dogs with the 288 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,440 stenotical areas, comes what we call an elongated soft palate. 289 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,759 And these are the little dogs, those little pushed in 290 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:32,679 break yoursephalic breeds that are so loud, especially when they're sleeping, 291 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:37,559 you hear and all the time. These dogs often have 292 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,080 elongating soft pallets. One of the things I recommend if 293 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:41,960 you have a small dog and it's going in for 294 00:13:42,039 --> 00:13:44,720 a surgery typically early on a spey or a neuter. 295 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,039 Make sure to mention to your veterinarian. They should do 296 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:52,039 it anyway, but just that extra little reminder. Doc, please 297 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,919 check the soft palate. My dog snores a lot. If 298 00:13:54,919 --> 00:13:57,399 it does need repair, we'd like to get that repaired 299 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,519 as well. And if you are going to do so, 300 00:13:59,799 --> 00:14:03,240 I recommend laser. Cautery is another way to do it. 301 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,399 Search of the old fashions. Cutting and sewing is a 302 00:14:05,399 --> 00:14:07,840 way to do it, but I love laser because there 303 00:14:07,919 --> 00:14:11,480 is zero bleeding. Laser is amazing when it comes to 304 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:15,080 fixing both the naries and the elongated soft palate. 305 00:14:15,399 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 3: So time for our quick break. 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Designer 349 00:16:44,639 --> 00:16:50,240 Petsweaters dot com. 350 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 2: Let's talk past, Let's don pets, Talfe. 351 00:16:53,759 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 6: Radio Headline Radio. 352 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: Pet Life Radio dot. 353 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 4: Com And welcome back. 354 00:17:16,319 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 3: You're here live with doctor Jeff. 355 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 2: Wherever your host of askedabats from doctor Jeff, and we've 356 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,480 been talking respiratory problems and we went through some of 357 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:27,079 the congenital issues. There's another problem we see that it 358 00:17:27,279 --> 00:17:30,519 is probably more hereditary, not necessarily congenital. Just to you 359 00:17:30,599 --> 00:17:34,720 understand the difference congenital merely means present at birth. Many 360 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:39,160 congenital diseases have a hereditary predisposition, which means it was 361 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:43,440 transferred genetically from parent to offspring. And there are many 362 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:47,400 congenital diseases that have no hereditary component. It just could 363 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:48,960 have been a defect, a genetic defect. 364 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 3: It just happened. 365 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 2: Mom never had a dad, never had it, grandmaor grandpa 366 00:17:52,279 --> 00:17:54,279 never had no one else had it. Just pet's born 367 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,440 with it. It's not in the gene pool per se. 368 00:17:56,839 --> 00:18:01,519 But so those are called congenital. Hereditary means that it 369 00:18:01,599 --> 00:18:04,480 is a disease that's transferable from parent. It's in the 370 00:18:04,519 --> 00:18:07,480 gene pool, but it doesn't necessarily show up when they're born. 371 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:11,359 So you can have a hereditary predeposition to something, for example, hyptsplasia. 372 00:18:11,519 --> 00:18:14,079 They're not born necessarily hyptosplasi. You can do dogs that 373 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,279 it's six months look fine, but then things start changing. 374 00:18:17,519 --> 00:18:20,359 So just understand the difference. So there's another condition that 375 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:25,079 we see that probably has a high hereditary predisposition. And 376 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:26,960 the reason we say that is because when you have 377 00:18:27,039 --> 00:18:31,799 diseases that seem to show up often in certain breeds, 378 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,160 the thought is that there must be it must have. 379 00:18:35,279 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 3: Entered the gene pool. 380 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,519 Speaker 2: Even if neither parent had the problem, it could have 381 00:18:39,559 --> 00:18:42,440 been what we call recessive and it shows up now 382 00:18:42,519 --> 00:18:44,839 at some point later on, but it's in the genes. 383 00:18:44,839 --> 00:18:49,319 And one such disease is something called trachial collapse or 384 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:53,079 collapsing trachea. I am sure that there are many of 385 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,400 you out there, especially with small dogs, whether it's a Yorky, 386 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:02,480 a Palm, a Maltese, whatever, that they go and they 387 00:19:02,559 --> 00:19:04,759 literally you can hear them breathing, and when you take 388 00:19:04,759 --> 00:19:07,039 a picture, you take X rays of these dogs, their 389 00:19:07,079 --> 00:19:12,000 trachea literally will just collapse into nothing. Basically, it's a 390 00:19:12,039 --> 00:19:16,279 defect of the cartilaginous rings that are supposed to keep 391 00:19:16,319 --> 00:19:19,200 the trachea sort of let it maintain its shape and 392 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:23,920 its rigidity so it doesn't collapse. And oftentimes these dogs 393 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,920 have defects with those rings and they will get a 394 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,920 tracheo collapse. Another problem we see that sounds very similar 395 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:33,400 is called air redundant dorsal tracheal membrane. And again we'll 396 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,079 see this in more than just small breeds and dogs 397 00:19:36,079 --> 00:19:39,079 that present with that weird cough that it's like a 398 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,720 honk almost. These dogs have a tracheo collapse. Trachia collapses 399 00:19:43,079 --> 00:19:46,759 are they sound terribly. They usually can be controlled with 400 00:19:47,079 --> 00:19:51,079 anti cough medicine, sometimes medicine to calm the dog down, 401 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,079 whether they be things like valume or xenax or things 402 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,960 even like Benaedel. Just keep your dogs pretty chill. It 403 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,160 seems to get worse when they drink water fast where 404 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,599 they get very excite in the heat. Make sure these 405 00:20:01,599 --> 00:20:05,160 dogs don't overheat. But it is really a tough condition 406 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:09,960 to fix. I know most surgeons do not like playing 407 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,640 with trachya surgery. There are some that have new techniques 408 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,240 that are there out there. But interestingly, one of my 409 00:20:15,559 --> 00:20:18,400 former technicians went on to veterinary school then became a 410 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,960 board certified veterinary surgeon. She was telling me some new 411 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,039 technique that she was using and it was great, and 412 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:28,319 I actually recently sent her a case. And interestingly, and 413 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,279 this is where I guess experience comes in, she said, 414 00:20:30,319 --> 00:20:31,799 you know what, we want to try some more medical 415 00:20:31,799 --> 00:20:34,359 things first. And that just goes to show you when 416 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,839 a surgeon elects not to do surgery but rather to 417 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:42,400 treat something medically, you know, that is a very challenging surgery, 418 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,960 a very challenging condition. And one such condition is a 419 00:20:46,079 --> 00:20:49,519 trachyo collapse. Another condition that you might see that sounds 420 00:20:49,559 --> 00:20:51,799 often the same, but you're not going to see it 421 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,119 in any particular breed. 422 00:20:53,279 --> 00:20:54,839 Speaker 3: It's a reverse sneeze. 423 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 2: I'm very good at reverse sneezes, So if you're listening only, 424 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,200 you may not get it. But if you're watching me 425 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,160 and this is the typical dog with a reverse knees, 426 00:21:04,279 --> 00:21:09,079 it's they're sucking the air in very like I like, 427 00:21:09,279 --> 00:21:12,440 with much resistance, but it comes out easily, kind of 428 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:13,680 the opposite of ours. 429 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 3: Because we were we sneeze. 430 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,519 Speaker 2: We go in easily and it and it's the out 431 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,920 that sounds like it's, you know, abnormal, these dogs are. 432 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 3: It's the opposite. 433 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 2: It's the inn that's causing the problem, and they have 434 00:21:24,759 --> 00:21:26,920 no trouble sucking it out. Dogs do this. A lot 435 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,920 of dogs do this. No one really knows why. Maybe 436 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:31,960 it's because those silly in their nose or just getting 437 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,960 too full, who knows, but it's reverse knees. One thing 438 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:36,680 that I've tried to do at works sometimes is if 439 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,440 you have a little touchy a little dog, if they're 440 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,400 doing reverse knees, just go up to them. Take it 441 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,400 by the snout and blow as hard as you can 442 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:47,559 right into the nostrils, and that sometimes will reverse the 443 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,039 reverse knees and it kind of puts them back to normal. 444 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,240 Sometimes they get themselves into a panic sometimes, so just 445 00:21:53,279 --> 00:21:55,160 taking your dog and just petting them and letting them 446 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,480 know it's okay, and just trying to chill them out 447 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,640 a little calm down a little bit, that too might 448 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:00,920 take care or the averse neees. 449 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 3: But reverse sniezes is one of. 450 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 2: Those things like like a cherry eye, and I tell 451 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,160 people at Cherry Eye, we talked about this several weeks ago. 452 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,400 Looks way worse than it actually is, and a reverse 453 00:22:11,519 --> 00:22:15,119 sneeze sounds way worse than it actually is. 454 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:16,079 Speaker 3: Don't panic. 455 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,759 Speaker 2: I personally have never had a patient drop dead from 456 00:22:19,799 --> 00:22:23,279 reverse neezing. Now collapsing trachia. I've had like two in 457 00:22:23,319 --> 00:22:26,079 my thirty plus years, so it's something that most dogs 458 00:22:26,079 --> 00:22:28,920 with medical therapy will do well. Now, in addition, there's 459 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,200 another condition that we see, and this is you know, 460 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,160 again in medical ease, when you say it double negative 461 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:40,119 for example, really not uncommon would mean common, But when 462 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,480 you're dealing with medical when you have a condition that 463 00:22:42,519 --> 00:22:45,039 we see I don't see it every day, but it's 464 00:22:45,039 --> 00:22:47,319 not oh my god, I can't believe it, So that 465 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,400 would be uncommon something it hardly ever happens. So that 466 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,960 means when we say not uncommon, it's just not that 467 00:22:53,079 --> 00:22:55,200 it doesn't mean it's common. It just means it's not like, 468 00:22:55,279 --> 00:22:58,200 oh my gosh. And that is something that we call 469 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:03,839 LP luryngrial paralysis. We see this often in retrievers, both 470 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:08,440 Labradors and Golden's older dogs, and they start sounding when 471 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:13,680 they breathe like this, almost like the elongated soft palette. 472 00:23:13,759 --> 00:23:15,519 But you know that these dogs went through their whole 473 00:23:15,599 --> 00:23:19,039 life without it, and it happens usually way later in life, 474 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,480 so it's not that big dogs like that. You don't 475 00:23:21,519 --> 00:23:24,160 usually have elongated soft palettes. But they can get that 476 00:23:24,279 --> 00:23:28,920 noisy breathing from what we call laryngeal paralysis, and there 477 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,359 is no medical therapy for that. If it gets really bad, 478 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,759 you gotta be careful because if these dogs start to 479 00:23:33,799 --> 00:23:36,240 overheat and chart to try to breathe more, the more 480 00:23:36,279 --> 00:23:39,759 they suffer from that paralysis in there, the tissue starts 481 00:23:39,799 --> 00:23:43,640 swelling up, and once that happens, they can actually just 482 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:44,359 not breathe. 483 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,279 Speaker 3: I mean, it can actually suffocate them. 484 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:50,079 Speaker 2: Very dangerous to get these dogs to overheat, so be 485 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,640 very careful if you have one of these dogs likes 486 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,039 to hike, usually if it's a labor or golden they 487 00:23:55,079 --> 00:23:55,680 love to hike. 488 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:56,799 Speaker 3: They love to be outdoors. 489 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 2: But if they start having that breathing issue, you should 490 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,559 not take them outside during. 491 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,319 Speaker 3: The heat of the day. They overheat very easily. 492 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 2: It's almost sound almost ans like the bulldog. The bulldog 493 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,599 is like this normally, and we have the same precautions 494 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,400 with the bulldog that we would with a bigger dog. 495 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 3: That has LP. 496 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 2: Now LP is repairable. It really is the doctor of 497 00:24:16,039 --> 00:24:17,680 entinary surgeon usually, but I don't know. 498 00:24:17,839 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 3: Maybe some gps do it. General practitioners I do not. 499 00:24:20,799 --> 00:24:23,559 Speaker 2: Will you can go in and it's called a tie 500 00:24:23,559 --> 00:24:26,599 back and they can tie one of these paralyzed cords 501 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,559 back all right in the larynx and allow them to 502 00:24:30,599 --> 00:24:35,240 breathe again. But here's one warning, one precaution. What do 503 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:39,839 many of these dogs like to do? Pastime Labradors, Golden Retrievers, 504 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,519 they love to swim. You got to be very careful 505 00:24:42,519 --> 00:24:46,440 if you have a swimming retriever that got a tie back, 506 00:24:46,599 --> 00:24:49,279 because it needed it because of a largeal prolysis. Be 507 00:24:49,559 --> 00:24:52,680 very very careful because they can't close their throat now 508 00:24:52,799 --> 00:24:55,759 because it's tie back, which means they will take in 509 00:24:55,799 --> 00:24:58,240 a lot of water. They can actually asprek, so you 510 00:24:58,279 --> 00:24:59,720 got to be very careful. You may have to take 511 00:24:59,759 --> 00:25:03,480 on Fortunately they're swimming privileges away, so that's all you 512 00:25:03,519 --> 00:25:05,519 have time for today. We will come back with some 513 00:25:05,599 --> 00:25:09,960 more problems with respiratory next week, so make sure to 514 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:14,160 tune in to US at nine on the Pacific Coast 515 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,319 at noon back east. Once again, thank to our sponsors, 516 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,799 pro Sens and cong and please, if you have any 517 00:25:19,839 --> 00:25:21,519 questions during the week you think of something, send me 518 00:25:21,559 --> 00:25:24,680 an email to Dr Jeff Doctor Jeff at petlife Radio 519 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:25,519 dot com. 520 00:25:25,519 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 3: Thanks for joining me. We'll be here next week. 521 00:25:27,599 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: Let's talk pets every week on demand only on Petlife 522 00:25:32,319 --> 00:25:47,920 Radio dot com.