WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.800 --> 00:00:05.160 The following presentation is abol Marvis Studio's production. 2 00:00:22.920 --> 00:00:29.839 When you look on the sky, do you feel the poll? 3 00:00:30.000 --> 00:00:33.039 The question why. 4 00:00:34.039 --> 00:00:41.000 The stories told and left behind in shadows where the 5 00:00:41.079 --> 00:00:48.399 truth we find. They built their tails on grafts and 6 00:00:48.880 --> 00:00:51.119 lives on theories. 7 00:00:51.240 --> 00:00:54.119 They stake their designed. 8 00:00:55.240 --> 00:01:02.679 Put down here on this solid graph, the answer screen. 9 00:01:03.039 --> 00:01:12.519 They're all around, rising, break through all the fat. 10 00:01:14.200 --> 00:01:17.599 Welcome back to truth seekers from around the world. It's 11 00:01:17.680 --> 00:01:21.599 time for another edition of the Flat Earth Files. I'm 12 00:01:21.640 --> 00:01:24.920 your host is always George Hobbes as we record on 13 00:01:24.959 --> 00:01:28.760 this Wednesday evening, June eighteenth, twenty twenty five. I hope 14 00:01:28.760 --> 00:01:33.200 this message finds you well in the uh the world. 15 00:01:33.280 --> 00:01:38.000 That certainly doesn't leave us short of a conversation, that's 16 00:01:38.000 --> 00:01:38.280 for sure. 17 00:01:38.280 --> 00:01:39.359 There's always something going on. 18 00:01:39.400 --> 00:01:42.760 Two quick notes before we start our conversation with Reinhold 19 00:01:42.760 --> 00:01:46.319 this evening. First and foremost, please do stop by the website. 20 00:01:46.480 --> 00:01:49.120 Like so many of you have and have, you've jumped 21 00:01:49.120 --> 00:01:51.840 on truthnet dot com and you've jumped to our social 22 00:01:51.879 --> 00:01:52.959 area and joined. 23 00:01:53.640 --> 00:01:54.519 I appreciate that. 24 00:01:54.879 --> 00:01:57.560 And again it's truthernet dot com that's our home for 25 00:01:57.599 --> 00:02:01.799 both podcasts. Also, if you would like to join the 26 00:02:01.840 --> 00:02:04.200 podcast like Reinhold is today. 27 00:02:04.640 --> 00:02:06.319 What you need to do is send us an email 28 00:02:06.359 --> 00:02:07.719 and that email address. 29 00:02:07.480 --> 00:02:11.680 Is fe filesguest at gmail dot com. And again that 30 00:02:11.800 --> 00:02:14.879 is f isn't Frank is an Echo files guest at 31 00:02:14.919 --> 00:02:18.479 gmail dot com. We'll get you a very brief questionnaire. 32 00:02:19.319 --> 00:02:21.439 We're really focused on where you live in the times 33 00:02:21.439 --> 00:02:23.680 you're available, and then we're going to try to get 34 00:02:23.719 --> 00:02:27.159 you scheduled at this point for August. So there you go, 35 00:02:27.199 --> 00:02:29.439 and I think that's all the house keeping we have 36 00:02:30.000 --> 00:02:32.039 for this evening. So at this point we're going to 37 00:02:32.120 --> 00:02:34.080 jump right into it and we're going to welcome Rhinhold 38 00:02:34.159 --> 00:02:35.520 to the audio cast. 39 00:02:35.599 --> 00:02:36.759 Reinhold, how are you, sir? 40 00:02:37.840 --> 00:02:39.199 I'm doing well. Thank you George. 41 00:02:39.280 --> 00:02:40.639 Yeah, thanks, I said. 42 00:02:40.680 --> 00:02:43.199 Every time I say the word podcast, I think of 43 00:02:43.240 --> 00:02:47.599 our guest Wayne from I Guess about a month ago. 44 00:02:47.639 --> 00:02:49.719 But let's jump into it. Please take a moment and 45 00:02:49.719 --> 00:02:51.039 introduce yourself to the audience. 46 00:02:52.719 --> 00:02:57.599 Yes, so I'm Reinhold, and that's not my real name, 47 00:02:57.639 --> 00:03:02.479 but I am it is my name for this occasion 48 00:03:02.520 --> 00:03:07.680 and for other occasions including books that I've written and 49 00:03:09.080 --> 00:03:13.439 an email. So I am Reinhold, and I'm getting more 50 00:03:13.520 --> 00:03:19.599 used to that and so yeah, I'm from Canada, Les 51 00:03:19.879 --> 00:03:24.759 if you could tell by my accent, and yeah, I 52 00:03:24.800 --> 00:03:29.159 love this topic. So I'm thankful George inviting me. 53 00:03:29.120 --> 00:03:32.280 On, absolutely, and it's a pleasure to have you on. 54 00:03:32.639 --> 00:03:35.639 And as always, I guess you know, the first question is, 55 00:03:35.919 --> 00:03:38.120 you know, we send out the questionnaire and you said 56 00:03:38.159 --> 00:03:42.319 that you've been into biblical cosmology since twenty seventeen, and 57 00:03:42.319 --> 00:03:44.639 that seems to be I guess when I talk to 58 00:03:44.719 --> 00:03:47.840 people who were awake at that time, I think it 59 00:03:47.879 --> 00:03:50.080 was late twenty nineteen or twenty twenty when I woke 60 00:03:50.159 --> 00:03:53.680 up that that was kind of the spike there, and 61 00:03:53.719 --> 00:03:55.599 that was right about it, at the point where they 62 00:03:55.680 --> 00:04:00.199 really started to ramp up the censorship. So I guess 63 00:04:00.240 --> 00:04:03.439 my first question would be what was your kind of 64 00:04:03.520 --> 00:04:05.000 journey in your rabbit hole. 65 00:04:04.879 --> 00:04:07.039 To biblical cosmology? How did that work? 66 00:04:09.360 --> 00:04:10.120 Well, it. 67 00:04:11.599 --> 00:04:16.240 Probably goes way back. But as far as why I 68 00:04:16.399 --> 00:04:22.959 was susceptible, I suppose you could say to believing it. 69 00:04:23.720 --> 00:04:29.720 But my friend Wayne, who was on the show, told 70 00:04:29.759 --> 00:04:32.879 me on his balcon I remember it. I remember the 71 00:04:32.959 --> 00:04:36.959 day where he said the Earth is flat and the 72 00:04:37.000 --> 00:04:41.480 Bible says so, and I said, brother, and I don't 73 00:04:41.519 --> 00:04:43.600 remember what else I said. I'm pretty sure I said, 74 00:04:43.600 --> 00:04:48.879 brother in a sort of unbelieving sort of way. How 75 00:04:48.920 --> 00:04:54.399 can you say that, or what do you mean? I 76 00:04:54.519 --> 00:05:00.360 probably I was. I've been quite open to different ideas. 77 00:05:00.439 --> 00:05:04.959 I'm accustomed to believing things about the Bible that other 78 00:05:05.000 --> 00:05:15.120 people don't accept, such as I am charismatic, with having 79 00:05:15.920 --> 00:05:21.839 believing in speaking in tongues, healings, things like that that. 80 00:05:23.240 --> 00:05:26.319 So I haven't been one. Plus, I came to Christ 81 00:05:26.319 --> 00:05:29.399 at a later age, at the age of nineteen. I 82 00:05:29.519 --> 00:05:32.879 lived my life and done quite a bit of drugs 83 00:05:32.920 --> 00:05:36.519 for a couple of years before that, and had some 84 00:05:36.639 --> 00:05:43.160 experiences spiritual experiences where I believed in God, and then 85 00:05:43.879 --> 00:05:46.360 a friend told me about Jesus, and I believed in Jesus. 86 00:05:46.360 --> 00:05:50.639 So I know how radical it is to change beliefs. 87 00:05:51.199 --> 00:05:54.600 But I also know the same spirit that led me 88 00:05:56.319 --> 00:05:59.800 to Christ to change that belief, to radically change my 89 00:05:59.800 --> 00:06:06.959 mind her life by twenty seventeen. By twenty sixteen, I 90 00:06:07.040 --> 00:06:12.240 needed something in my life, and I wasn't going to 91 00:06:12.279 --> 00:06:14.800 get into all of it, but I had gotten to 92 00:06:14.839 --> 00:06:17.240 a point where I needed a touch from the Lord. 93 00:06:19.079 --> 00:06:22.759 I needed some change, I needed a revival. God sent 94 00:06:22.920 --> 00:06:32.160 several things, including a revival in evangelism that but it 95 00:06:32.199 --> 00:06:36.040 included also this was huge. This was huge. That Wayne 96 00:06:36.079 --> 00:06:39.519 told me that is the summer of twenty sixteen, and 97 00:06:39.879 --> 00:06:44.120 it took me about a calendar year of searching and 98 00:06:44.240 --> 00:06:49.360 watching videos and frankly just driving to work and looking 99 00:06:49.920 --> 00:06:54.600 at the horizon, reading the Bible, reading the Bible, looking 100 00:06:54.639 --> 00:06:59.040 at the horizon, reading the Bible, watching videos and looking again. 101 00:06:59.240 --> 00:07:04.759 And I remember coming to well, my friend believes it. 102 00:07:05.600 --> 00:07:08.519 I have a friend who believes this. I have a 103 00:07:08.560 --> 00:07:12.439 friend who believes this. It's kind of interesting. I have 104 00:07:12.439 --> 00:07:18.240 a friend believes this. It's really interesting. I want I 105 00:07:18.319 --> 00:07:21.120 kind of want to believe this actually myself, and I'm 106 00:07:21.120 --> 00:07:24.079 thinking this to myself, and by this time I'm not 107 00:07:24.120 --> 00:07:26.160 going to say this to anyone else yet, but I'm like, 108 00:07:27.319 --> 00:07:32.240 I want this to be true. I don't. And then 109 00:07:32.680 --> 00:07:37.480 we're not spinning. I'm not spinning. The Bible says what 110 00:07:37.560 --> 00:07:40.920 it says, and we're not spinning. And I want this 111 00:07:40.920 --> 00:07:43.680 to be true because it agrees with my senses, agrees 112 00:07:43.720 --> 00:07:48.800 with my experience, it answers so many questions. And then 113 00:07:50.360 --> 00:07:55.040 I believe this is true. And from that point it 114 00:07:55.160 --> 00:08:02.240 was talking to Wayne, and that's come to scriptures. That's 115 00:08:02.399 --> 00:08:06.360 to find everyone, every single one that says anything about 116 00:08:06.399 --> 00:08:10.000 this topic. So we did. That was about two years 117 00:08:10.279 --> 00:08:13.759 I think us working on that, on the scriptures, which 118 00:08:13.800 --> 00:08:16.439 is part of the book. The list of scriptures was 119 00:08:16.480 --> 00:08:21.480 the main idea. The writing is supplemental to that, or 120 00:08:21.519 --> 00:08:28.079 that was the idea behind that. And so I still 121 00:08:28.120 --> 00:08:31.759 haven't told many people. I told people here and there. 122 00:08:31.800 --> 00:08:34.759 Of course I told Wayne right away, and there were 123 00:08:34.759 --> 00:08:40.720 other people that I told here and there, and eventually 124 00:08:42.879 --> 00:08:46.039 told pretty much almost everybody that meant anything to me, 125 00:08:47.559 --> 00:08:54.519 including my dad, including those who are hostile towards it, 126 00:08:54.559 --> 00:09:01.639 including even eventually my own kids, and which is many 127 00:09:01.720 --> 00:09:10.360 years later, and they're older now. And when I said 128 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:15.840 that I started believing this twenty seventeen. It couldn't believe me, 129 00:09:18.200 --> 00:09:21.960 but it was it was a yeah, it was a 130 00:09:22.039 --> 00:09:24.799 it was a long process. So I have sympathy for 131 00:09:24.840 --> 00:09:29.440 the process. What I don't what I don't like to 132 00:09:29.519 --> 00:09:36.240 see is open hostility or complete indifference. But everyone's in 133 00:09:36.279 --> 00:09:42.360 their own journey, you know. And I told someone I 134 00:09:42.399 --> 00:09:48.159 think seven years ago, and he was curious but a 135 00:09:48.200 --> 00:09:52.159 bit incredulous as to he was the why does it 136 00:09:52.240 --> 00:09:58.120 matter guy, there's the why does it matter? Guy, and 137 00:09:58.399 --> 00:10:01.879 there's you know, we could personify all different responses, and 138 00:10:02.639 --> 00:10:06.240 he has come to the guy who asks me every 139 00:10:06.240 --> 00:10:08.840 few months, hey what about this? Hey what about that? 140 00:10:10.480 --> 00:10:13.279 Over seven years ago, he's gone from why does it 141 00:10:13.360 --> 00:10:15.600 matter at all? To what about this? What about that? 142 00:10:16.559 --> 00:10:22.840 And almost committing. So that's how it goes, and it's 143 00:10:23.360 --> 00:10:25.080 we didn't ask for this, note of us asked for this, 144 00:10:26.559 --> 00:10:29.799 but we're super glad at the end of the day. 145 00:10:30.759 --> 00:10:33.080 Yeah, no matter how hard the struggle, you know, I'm 146 00:10:33.120 --> 00:10:35.600 thankful that, you know, I've been given the grace to 147 00:10:35.639 --> 00:10:38.519 see these things, and I'm so glad you brought up 148 00:10:39.919 --> 00:10:43.679 trying to put a time limit on these things, whether 149 00:10:43.720 --> 00:10:49.480 it's you know, we call it spiritual formation, and you 150 00:10:49.759 --> 00:10:56.240 simply can't put a time limit on these things. Everybody's different, 151 00:10:56.639 --> 00:11:02.720 so the the evolving of subjects, it takes different amount 152 00:11:02.879 --> 00:11:05.639 of time for different people. I wanted to address your book, 153 00:11:05.639 --> 00:11:10.000 which is called A Level Plane, an Introduction to Biblical Cosmology, 154 00:11:10.080 --> 00:11:13.919 which you released about four years ago. I know we're 155 00:11:13.960 --> 00:11:15.799 starting a little backwards here, but I want to point 156 00:11:15.840 --> 00:11:20.840 out in your kind of shypnopsis, right the last sentence 157 00:11:20.879 --> 00:11:25.200 of your little shypnopsis says warning, what you read could 158 00:11:25.200 --> 00:11:29.159 cause you trouble and make your life harder, but the 159 00:11:29.279 --> 00:11:33.039 truth is worth it. And I think it's right that 160 00:11:33.039 --> 00:11:35.120 that is so true on so many levels. 161 00:11:36.840 --> 00:11:41.080 I forget does that occur at the beginning or in 162 00:11:41.120 --> 00:11:45.200 the I forget where that where that statement was made. 163 00:11:45.360 --> 00:11:47.600 That was the very end of your hypnopsis on the 164 00:11:47.600 --> 00:11:48.919 Amazon page. 165 00:11:48.679 --> 00:11:51.799 The very last, right, right, you know it's true, And 166 00:11:52.159 --> 00:11:57.039 sometimes I feel bad even telling people yeah, for that reason. 167 00:11:57.559 --> 00:11:59.440 And I was just talking to a brother though, just 168 00:11:59.480 --> 00:12:01.960 a few months ago, just a couple of months ago, 169 00:12:02.120 --> 00:12:08.919 and when twenty twenty came around, and when, as they say, 170 00:12:09.159 --> 00:12:14.200 COVID hit, I should say, when the agenda flowered, flourished, 171 00:12:15.120 --> 00:12:19.480 when everything came to light, Well, as soon as that 172 00:12:19.600 --> 00:12:24.240 happened because of this, I was ready. And there were 173 00:12:24.279 --> 00:12:29.759 some brothers, some YouTubers and people Wayne's not going to 174 00:12:29.879 --> 00:12:35.320 like me saying YouTubers, some Internet personalities who had helped 175 00:12:35.360 --> 00:12:40.159 me see immediately like there was no delay when it 176 00:12:40.159 --> 00:12:46.480 came to COVID. I immediately knew basically from day one 177 00:12:47.840 --> 00:12:52.679 what it was because some had already said this was coming. 178 00:12:54.960 --> 00:12:59.519 And as soon as it had there was something wrong. 179 00:13:01.879 --> 00:13:04.960 There was something wrong right away. Maybe not day one, 180 00:13:05.000 --> 00:13:09.320 maybe day two. Maybe I'm exaggerating whatever, but the point is, 181 00:13:10.519 --> 00:13:15.159 at that point I knew that I had to get 182 00:13:15.200 --> 00:13:22.399 this knowledge out there. I sent a mass email and 183 00:13:23.080 --> 00:13:27.279 offering dialogue on this topic, which got some response. So 184 00:13:27.440 --> 00:13:34.480 those people all all saw that mass email. And I 185 00:13:34.519 --> 00:13:37.120 also had a meeting in which I told about five 186 00:13:37.399 --> 00:13:41.120 guys who were there at the meeting. One of those 187 00:13:41.159 --> 00:13:50.279 guys went off and next thing you know, his son 188 00:13:50.720 --> 00:14:00.000 is doing a presentation on this topic in class. Beautiful, 189 00:14:00.120 --> 00:14:06.759 beautiful thing, just in front of everybody. Beautiful. Now, I 190 00:14:06.799 --> 00:14:10.440 never even talked to this guy because we weren't very close. 191 00:14:11.159 --> 00:14:15.120 He was just there at the meeting until just this 192 00:14:15.120 --> 00:14:18.519 past year. This was like again five years ago. We 193 00:14:18.559 --> 00:14:20.720 went out for coffee and he's like, yeah, this changed 194 00:14:20.759 --> 00:14:25.960 my life completely. And I don't know that I I mean, 195 00:14:27.440 --> 00:14:30.399 he is, he's going in his own direction and I'm 196 00:14:30.440 --> 00:14:35.159 going in mind. But praise the Lord right that he 197 00:14:35.240 --> 00:14:40.120 had the courage to tell those who mattered to him. 198 00:14:40.159 --> 00:14:42.799 And I don't know how many people he's told. It's 199 00:14:42.840 --> 00:14:47.919 a hard thing, but but I was. I was blessed. 200 00:14:48.320 --> 00:14:50.519 I was blessed by that. And maybe he's listening to this, 201 00:14:51.279 --> 00:14:53.000 you know, And I'm not going to mention any names, 202 00:14:53.039 --> 00:14:59.559 but that's it was a beautiful thing that that he 203 00:14:59.600 --> 00:15:06.320 did that, and that my simple Hey, this is what 204 00:15:06.399 --> 00:15:09.240 I found out. I didn't even say much, but he 205 00:15:09.279 --> 00:15:14.440 went on his own search, and maybe it's caused problems 206 00:15:14.440 --> 00:15:16.080 for him too, I don't know, probably not as many 207 00:15:16.120 --> 00:15:23.279 as most people. Whatever. We're all in a search and 208 00:15:23.519 --> 00:15:26.200 rather a journey. Well some aren't on a search, let's 209 00:15:26.240 --> 00:15:31.759 face it. But yeah, I'm not sure where I was going. 210 00:15:31.799 --> 00:15:37.000 I don't remember what I was going though exactly, but 211 00:15:37.000 --> 00:15:45.360 but yeah, twenty twenty was a confirmation of the so 212 00:15:46.720 --> 00:15:47.919 why would they kind of thing? 213 00:15:48.279 --> 00:15:49.480 Exactly right? 214 00:15:49.919 --> 00:15:50.519 Would they? 215 00:15:50.559 --> 00:15:53.240 Why why would they lie? And then that in twined 216 00:15:53.279 --> 00:15:58.360 why they also? How could so many people keep a secret? 217 00:15:58.399 --> 00:16:01.399 And then when you realize how compart mentalization really works, 218 00:16:01.399 --> 00:16:03.519 And you know, I worked with an entity as big 219 00:16:03.519 --> 00:16:05.320 as the US Army, I can tell you one side 220 00:16:05.320 --> 00:16:08.519 of the house had zero idea of what was going 221 00:16:08.559 --> 00:16:11.440 on with the other side of the house. But for now, 222 00:16:12.000 --> 00:16:13.840 while we're on COVID, I think this would be a 223 00:16:13.840 --> 00:16:17.360 good time to spend a few minutes on this because, 224 00:16:18.679 --> 00:16:21.360 as I'm sure you've heard, many of the guests we've 225 00:16:21.360 --> 00:16:24.600 had on this podcast mentioned that COVID actually played a 226 00:16:24.600 --> 00:16:27.799 lot of in their awakening, the overplaying of the cards. 227 00:16:27.840 --> 00:16:30.799 Whether we can even argue with that was intentional or not, 228 00:16:31.480 --> 00:16:35.399 but there was more than one agenda with that. Part 229 00:16:35.440 --> 00:16:40.279 of it is I think, I truly think Lucifer feeds 230 00:16:40.320 --> 00:16:48.840 off the fear, the humanity sphere, the depopulation agenda, and 231 00:16:48.919 --> 00:16:51.759 so on and so forth. But you wanted to discuss 232 00:16:51.840 --> 00:16:57.039 the theology of conspiracy and the mindset is Christians, Yeah, 233 00:16:57.039 --> 00:16:57.799 please go ahead. 234 00:16:58.879 --> 00:17:01.039 I didn't want to, Like, I didn't want to get 235 00:17:01.080 --> 00:17:05.359 into quote. It should be pretty obvious what my viewpoint is. 236 00:17:05.400 --> 00:17:07.039 I've done a lot of thinking on that as well. 237 00:17:07.079 --> 00:17:11.480 But the thing is the biggest thing for me, and 238 00:17:11.519 --> 00:17:13.359 there's a whole chapter in our book there as well 239 00:17:13.839 --> 00:17:21.000 on this idea of conspiracy is something Christians are afraid 240 00:17:21.039 --> 00:17:22.920 of and don't want to talk about it and don't want 241 00:17:22.920 --> 00:17:27.839 me to knowledge. But it's something deeply embedded in the 242 00:17:27.880 --> 00:17:33.559 whole of Scripture from Genesis to Revelation, that the world 243 00:17:34.160 --> 00:17:40.400 system run handed over to the serpent, handed over to 244 00:17:40.480 --> 00:17:44.799 say buy Adam, which every Christian acknowledges. Satan is the 245 00:17:44.799 --> 00:17:48.759 God littlegy of this world Christian. You see it in scripture. 246 00:17:49.359 --> 00:17:52.599 Now he was handed over. Adam handed over his authority. 247 00:17:52.640 --> 00:17:56.279 That is not widely understood in the Church. But when 248 00:17:56.279 --> 00:17:59.359 I the stream that I got saved and grew up 249 00:17:59.400 --> 00:18:04.599 in is widely acknowledged and taught on the concept of 250 00:18:04.960 --> 00:18:09.920 spiritual authority. That when Adam handed over the authority of 251 00:18:09.920 --> 00:18:12.440 this world, Satan became the god lilogy of this world, 252 00:18:12.440 --> 00:18:17.880 as Paul says, And it's Corinthians four and so way 253 00:18:17.880 --> 00:18:19.920 back in Genesis. And then we see the flowering of 254 00:18:19.920 --> 00:18:24.160 that in in the flood, and then and the Genesis six. 255 00:18:24.240 --> 00:18:30.119 Whatever people believe. Obviously the Nephilim, they were giants. Evil 256 00:18:30.200 --> 00:18:34.039 came in through them. That much can't very well be disputed. 257 00:18:34.680 --> 00:18:39.440 The Tower of Babel was was a giant conspiracy of 258 00:18:39.480 --> 00:18:43.400 evil which God put a stop to. And then and 259 00:18:43.440 --> 00:18:47.559 then you have the you know Psalmn two, which sets 260 00:18:47.559 --> 00:18:50.279 out the program. Right, the kings of the earth take 261 00:18:50.400 --> 00:18:56.519 their stand, The rulers come together against the Lord and 262 00:18:56.599 --> 00:19:00.880 against his annointed. There's intent there. This is on an accident. 263 00:19:00.920 --> 00:19:06.480 This isn't people generally wanting in their own minds, they 264 00:19:06.480 --> 00:19:08.880 want what's best. In their own minds. They think they're 265 00:19:08.880 --> 00:19:11.799 doing the right thing. But the thing is they are 266 00:19:11.799 --> 00:19:14.319 coming together. They are against the Lord, and that much 267 00:19:14.319 --> 00:19:17.200 of intent can't be denied. And then, of course you 268 00:19:17.279 --> 00:19:20.720 come to the Crucifixion of Jesus, in which Pilot and 269 00:19:20.759 --> 00:19:25.599 the rulers and the gentiles were all gathered together. In 270 00:19:25.759 --> 00:19:30.000 Acts they preached the sermon that they were all gathered 271 00:19:30.000 --> 00:19:35.079 together against the Lord to do. And I love that 272 00:19:35.160 --> 00:19:39.720 whatever the Lord predetermined before to be done. It actually 273 00:19:40.319 --> 00:19:53.400 i'm quoting yeah here Acts four twenty seven. Indeed, Herod 274 00:19:53.400 --> 00:19:55.599 and Pontius Pilot met together with the Gentiles and the 275 00:19:55.640 --> 00:19:59.039 people of Israel in this to conspire, to conspire, to 276 00:19:59.160 --> 00:20:03.519 conspire only says it once. I'm just against early servant Jesus, 277 00:20:03.559 --> 00:20:07.799 whom you anointed Psalm to Psalm to quoted right before that. 278 00:20:08.799 --> 00:20:14.440 This is the fulfillment of Psalm to. Oh, they did 279 00:20:14.480 --> 00:20:16.880 what your power and will had decided beforehand should happen. 280 00:20:17.599 --> 00:20:20.640 So that's the thing about the conspirators. They have no 281 00:20:20.720 --> 00:20:27.200 idea that they're inadvertently furthering God's purposes, which the devil 282 00:20:27.240 --> 00:20:30.960 can't win. Right, yep. Now, and then, of course the 283 00:20:30.960 --> 00:20:33.559 mark of the beast. I mean, how much more nu 284 00:20:33.599 --> 00:20:38.680 Christians need to acknowledge the conspiracy that is against the 285 00:20:38.680 --> 00:20:41.319 Lord and against his followers. They will hate you, They 286 00:20:41.359 --> 00:20:44.000 will hate you, they will hate you. How many more 287 00:20:44.039 --> 00:20:47.319 times does the Bible have to talk about this before 288 00:20:47.400 --> 00:20:51.480 Christians are willing to not be squeamish about it? And 289 00:20:51.519 --> 00:20:53.480 then it's like, well, how could they, how could they? 290 00:20:53.559 --> 00:20:57.000 How could they keep it all hidden? Well? I found 291 00:20:57.000 --> 00:21:01.359 a really cool thing. It's very simple. The guards of 292 00:21:01.440 --> 00:21:04.920 the tomb. Right, get this a little bit in the book. Well, 293 00:21:05.920 --> 00:21:13.680 two guards, two gatekeepers, right, Two guards were placed at 294 00:21:13.680 --> 00:21:22.920 the two Then what happened was Act Matthew twenty eight twelve. 295 00:21:22.960 --> 00:21:25.119 When the chief priest had met with the elders. They 296 00:21:25.240 --> 00:21:31.160 devised a plan. Oh okay, that sounds like they went 297 00:21:31.240 --> 00:21:34.160 into secret, devised a plan. They give the soldiers number 298 00:21:34.160 --> 00:21:37.160 one a large sum of money, telling them, you are 299 00:21:37.200 --> 00:21:40.640 to say, telling them what to say. Here's the money, 300 00:21:40.640 --> 00:21:44.319 here's what to say. How many politicians during COVID we 301 00:21:44.319 --> 00:21:48.000 saw again, just make a connection. They're reading a script. 302 00:21:49.119 --> 00:21:50.880 You are to say, his disciples came the night and 303 00:21:50.920 --> 00:21:53.559 stole while we were while we were asleep. If the 304 00:21:53.599 --> 00:21:55.880 support gets to the government. Number two, we will satisfy 305 00:21:55.960 --> 00:21:58.640 and keep you out of trouble. Number one, here's some money. 306 00:21:58.720 --> 00:22:03.279 Number two, you're not in trouble. So basically, a bribe 307 00:22:03.319 --> 00:22:05.359 and a threat. In other words, if you don't take this, 308 00:22:05.440 --> 00:22:07.920 you are in trouble. A bribe and a threat. That's 309 00:22:07.960 --> 00:22:11.279 all you need by two people. And then this report 310 00:22:11.440 --> 00:22:14.640 was widely circulated among the Jews. In other words, everyone 311 00:22:14.720 --> 00:22:19.319 believed it. You only needed two people, and you know, 312 00:22:19.359 --> 00:22:22.839 a group at the top, and the Bible clearly indicates 313 00:22:22.839 --> 00:22:24.839 there that the jew Jewish leaders were the group at 314 00:22:24.839 --> 00:22:27.720 the top. So that's all you need. Do we have 315 00:22:27.759 --> 00:22:29.720 a group at the top? Well, you'd be pretty naive 316 00:22:29.799 --> 00:22:32.440 not to think, so, what is the G seven that 317 00:22:32.559 --> 00:22:34.640 just happened? That's the group at the top. 318 00:22:34.799 --> 00:22:35.519 That's right, You. 319 00:22:35.559 --> 00:22:38.200 Think that, you think they're being pretty straightforward about everything. 320 00:22:38.240 --> 00:22:39.920 Come on, come on, just. 321 00:22:41.680 --> 00:22:44.039 Can we be Yeah, I just had the Builderberg meeting too. 322 00:22:44.839 --> 00:22:48.480 I mean, here's a side thought, Like sometimes I ask people, 323 00:22:48.519 --> 00:22:51.599 whatever happened to the anti globalist left? It disappeared off 324 00:22:51.599 --> 00:22:55.480 the face of the earth in twenty twenty because they 325 00:22:55.519 --> 00:22:58.880 realized that the corporations were on their side, and so 326 00:22:58.920 --> 00:23:02.480 they decided to support the corporations. But the thing is that, 327 00:23:02.519 --> 00:23:05.680 you know, the corporations will turn on them as well. 328 00:23:06.720 --> 00:23:13.279 But the point is, you know the days of you know, 329 00:23:13.359 --> 00:23:18.119 the leftists who said, who are against these corporate entities 330 00:23:18.519 --> 00:23:20.680 who did not have her best interests of mind? Well, yeah, 331 00:23:20.680 --> 00:23:25.880 they were right, but they had a skewed worldview because 332 00:23:25.920 --> 00:23:29.240 they denied God. They got deceived and then they were 333 00:23:29.240 --> 00:23:32.559 offered money and they capitulated to the money. So it 334 00:23:33.480 --> 00:23:36.000 doesn't take much. It just takes money and threats and 335 00:23:36.079 --> 00:23:39.119 there you go. Yeah, and so and so this. Oh 336 00:23:39.319 --> 00:23:43.799 those astronauts they were Christians, were they? Well? They lie? 337 00:23:45.039 --> 00:23:50.359 They lie? Right? Well, what is the Bible say that 338 00:23:50.519 --> 00:23:52.960 every man that God be true in every man a liar? 339 00:23:53.160 --> 00:23:56.599 Every man is capable of lying. Absolutely, And they sure 340 00:23:56.720 --> 00:23:59.559 justified to themselves. I'm doing it for a good reason, 341 00:24:00.039 --> 00:24:02.680 doing it for whatever they say to themselves. I don't know. 342 00:24:02.920 --> 00:24:04.400 I don't know how they sleep at night, but they 343 00:24:04.400 --> 00:24:07.599 do absolutely, some of them not much, but you can tell. 344 00:24:07.759 --> 00:24:14.640 But and so that's that's the part. That's chapter two 345 00:24:14.680 --> 00:24:17.599 of the book. Chapter one is you know, does truth matter? 346 00:24:17.640 --> 00:24:22.640 I think we're we're on the same page there. Yeah, absolutely, 347 00:24:22.880 --> 00:24:25.160 But I but I do want to get into some 348 00:24:25.200 --> 00:24:29.359 of those other things in the scripture on again, why 349 00:24:29.480 --> 00:24:32.799 is this important and it's more than the shape of 350 00:24:32.839 --> 00:24:33.279 the earth. 351 00:24:35.519 --> 00:24:38.200 Yeah, that's just the tip of the iceberg, and I 352 00:24:38.240 --> 00:24:40.759 wanted to touch on before we moved on to that. It 353 00:24:40.839 --> 00:24:43.000 is truly amazing if you look back to the liberals 354 00:24:43.000 --> 00:24:46.319 of the sixties and seventies, how they were anti corporation, 355 00:24:46.519 --> 00:24:49.319 they were anti war, some. 356 00:24:49.400 --> 00:24:50.559 Stances I still hold on to. 357 00:24:50.680 --> 00:24:53.640 But the average liberal today, you look at Jimmy Dore 358 00:24:53.640 --> 00:24:56.079 and people like him are just like, what is happening 359 00:24:57.440 --> 00:25:01.079 right that they are very much into this Marxist agenda. 360 00:25:01.720 --> 00:25:04.759 I said on my other podcast last night, I took 361 00:25:04.759 --> 00:25:07.519 my daughter to the little Comic con in Dover, Delaware 362 00:25:07.720 --> 00:25:10.960 on Saturday, and they had the No King March right 363 00:25:11.119 --> 00:25:13.119 five hundred feet from us, and they all marched past 364 00:25:13.119 --> 00:25:13.920 and yell did us. 365 00:25:14.119 --> 00:25:16.359 They were all in there. I would say ninety percent 366 00:25:16.400 --> 00:25:17.440 of them. We're in their. 367 00:25:17.279 --> 00:25:26.480 Sixties early seventies. Just you know, it's just so weird 368 00:25:26.480 --> 00:25:28.920 to see that shift. Even the punk rock groups like 369 00:25:29.000 --> 00:25:32.839 Green Day and how they have in the nineties and 370 00:25:32.880 --> 00:25:35.359 the you know eighties and nineties they were anti corporation, 371 00:25:35.480 --> 00:25:38.680 and now they'll say anything or back anything for a check. 372 00:25:39.039 --> 00:25:39.880 It's just crazy. 373 00:25:40.920 --> 00:25:43.920 Yeah, yeah, no it's true. 374 00:25:44.119 --> 00:25:49.759 But yeah, back to the the idea is that, yeah, 375 00:25:49.839 --> 00:25:53.960 once we get out of the way the squeamishness about 376 00:25:53.960 --> 00:25:56.880 conspiracy and we actually look in the. 377 00:25:56.799 --> 00:26:05.960 Bible, then we have to tend with the all metaphor people, 378 00:26:09.960 --> 00:26:14.599 because the Scripture says what it says, right, and so 379 00:26:15.240 --> 00:26:20.559 there are Yeah, there's so many, so many angles to 380 00:26:20.680 --> 00:26:24.319 look at in terms of how do we how do 381 00:26:24.440 --> 00:26:29.359 we coming how do we bring truth into the situation right? 382 00:26:30.680 --> 00:26:35.400 One thing that's really stood out to me initially and 383 00:26:35.599 --> 00:26:38.799 continues to do so, which is chapter three the book 384 00:26:38.839 --> 00:26:44.440 as God's position and Heaven's actual location. We sing all 385 00:26:44.519 --> 00:26:52.599 these songs even in church about God being above, and 386 00:26:52.680 --> 00:27:03.799 yet I remember, I remember the idea that I remember thinking, well, okay, 387 00:27:05.160 --> 00:27:09.480 God is above, like love poured down on us, pour 388 00:27:09.559 --> 00:27:11.720 down on us. I remember being annoyed at those lyrics 389 00:27:11.759 --> 00:27:14.480 because I'm like, well, it's not coming down. God isn't 390 00:27:14.559 --> 00:27:20.319 up there. So and yet we think of him as 391 00:27:20.400 --> 00:27:22.640 up there, quote unquote, think of him as up there 392 00:27:23.680 --> 00:27:26.279 because that's what the Bible says. Well, that's what we're 393 00:27:26.359 --> 00:27:33.359 meant to think. So, as I said in the book, 394 00:27:34.000 --> 00:27:37.480 the question of dealing is where is God? Many Christians 395 00:27:37.519 --> 00:27:41.000 idea of God's location is fuzzy and vague. What might 396 00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:43.559 be called a quote dimensional view. 397 00:27:43.920 --> 00:27:45.000 Yes, we hear that a lot. 398 00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:48.400 We hear that a lot, the acknowledgment of heaven as 399 00:27:48.440 --> 00:27:54.079 a real place. But in quote another dimension that some 400 00:27:54.200 --> 00:27:58.319 more parallels this one, that could influence it too. Angels 401 00:27:58.359 --> 00:28:01.640