WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.000 --> 00:00:06.000 So that it wasn't Marga's glider parked outside the motel 2 00:00:06.080 --> 00:00:08.720 five years ago. I'm getting out of this marriage while 3 00:00:08.720 --> 00:00:18.920 I'm still young and handsome. Oh forever. I couldn't even 4 00:00:19.039 --> 00:00:21.239 keep a promise. I made you a tree. 5 00:00:22.160 --> 00:00:23.760 Four Finger Discounted. 6 00:00:39.799 --> 00:00:42.719 Welcome to four Finger discount where this week we are going. 7 00:00:42.640 --> 00:00:47.880 To review the worst flashback ever. I'm Dano and I 8 00:00:47.920 --> 00:00:51.280 am guy is working to our shock jock talk block. 9 00:00:51.320 --> 00:00:53.679 Where we are we're talking about dangerous curves. 10 00:00:53.679 --> 00:00:56.479 I would rather run through the top five hundred funniest 11 00:00:56.479 --> 00:00:57.960 sounds of all time and review this episode. 12 00:00:58.240 --> 00:01:00.960 I'd rather do that any way. That sounded great? 13 00:01:04.719 --> 00:01:06.760 Yeah, I know, but you need to have that. What's 14 00:01:06.760 --> 00:01:10.359 the one used to that's the greatest sound of all time? 15 00:01:10.359 --> 00:01:14.560 It has to be right. What's more iconic that the 16 00:01:14.599 --> 00:01:15.840 slide was? 17 00:01:15.840 --> 00:01:15.879 Like? 18 00:01:15.959 --> 00:01:18.519 Yeah, slide whistle? That just snickles defeat. 19 00:01:19.000 --> 00:01:24.560 Sad trombone or warm or the what's the bankrupt sound? 20 00:01:24.680 --> 00:01:27.560 For? It was a family feud. Do you know when 21 00:01:27.599 --> 00:01:29.640 a family feuder that sounds like the start of Netflix. 22 00:01:30.239 --> 00:01:34.519 That's the doom doom. See this is why Dando was 23 00:01:34.560 --> 00:01:36.400 a star of all things audio. I mean, you can 24 00:01:36.400 --> 00:01:41.159 tell the difference between that doom and well, actually that's 25 00:01:41.159 --> 00:01:41.680 not that hard. 26 00:01:41.799 --> 00:01:45.120 From ten years of doing podcasting, fifteen years of radio 27 00:01:45.239 --> 00:01:49.079 whatnot and editing my own sounds, I know what ms 28 00:01:49.120 --> 00:01:51.280 and urs look like in audio form. I'm like, I 29 00:01:51.319 --> 00:01:52.879 don't have to listen to. I'm just like, cut that out, 30 00:01:53.439 --> 00:01:53.879 cut it out. 31 00:01:54.120 --> 00:01:56.760 I just know you're like ciphering the matrix. You're not. 32 00:01:57.560 --> 00:02:00.000 You've seen Blonde Brune and I do enjoy good steak 33 00:02:00.439 --> 00:02:03.560 who does not? Yes, you know, as we always say, 34 00:02:04.079 --> 00:02:06.560 justice for Joey Pants, he was one hundred percent right. 35 00:02:06.640 --> 00:02:09.800 Oh yes, And in saying that, going to this episode, 36 00:02:09.840 --> 00:02:13.280 you need to have ignorance because this episode. 37 00:02:13.000 --> 00:02:15.520 I'm pretty much everything. Oh man, Yeah, that's true. 38 00:02:15.639 --> 00:02:17.360 So before we get into it though, before we get 39 00:02:17.360 --> 00:02:20.879 into some it's gonna be some not rants, but just bewilderment. 40 00:02:20.919 --> 00:02:24.800 But this weekend, so you m seed work function for 41 00:02:24.919 --> 00:02:26.280 your Lovely Louisa's father. 42 00:02:26.680 --> 00:02:30.000 It is the Lovely Louisa's Father's company. Yes, so he 43 00:02:30.039 --> 00:02:32.759 had had the Christmas party for it. It wasn't just 44 00:02:32.759 --> 00:02:38.840 for humans, it's for me And yeah, I was politely 45 00:02:38.879 --> 00:02:41.479 asked to emcee the event. Which year, there's not a 46 00:02:41.520 --> 00:02:42.800 whole lot to it, but you get up and you're 47 00:02:42.800 --> 00:02:44.400 sort of telling everybody to sit down and shut up, 48 00:02:44.439 --> 00:02:46.080 and you know, toilets are over there. If you want 49 00:02:46.120 --> 00:02:49.199 to vabe, go downstairs. Well it went fine, Yeah, went 50 00:02:49.319 --> 00:02:50.319 very well. You know it's a good night. 51 00:02:50.319 --> 00:02:51.680 You know you can start hosting this show. Then you 52 00:02:51.680 --> 00:02:52.639 start doing the intro. 53 00:02:54.240 --> 00:02:57.560 Welcome to fourthing a discount if you want a vape, 54 00:02:57.560 --> 00:03:02.319 can go outside. Got to made fun off. Yes, I 55 00:03:02.360 --> 00:03:04.879 took so I did that and it was great. Great. 56 00:03:05.080 --> 00:03:05.960 I took the kids. 57 00:03:06.000 --> 00:03:08.639 We may have mentioned it on the podcast in previous weeks, 58 00:03:08.800 --> 00:03:10.560 but Nicola and I should say no, Nicola, I took 59 00:03:10.599 --> 00:03:12.960 the kids to Melbourne, their first not ever staying in 60 00:03:13.000 --> 00:03:14.479 a what we thought was gonna be a hotel with 61 00:03:14.599 --> 00:03:16.360 Nicola in the beginning apartment. So it wasn't the hotel 62 00:03:16.360 --> 00:03:19.319 because kids wanted room service and whatnot, so that didn't happen. 63 00:03:19.360 --> 00:03:22.919 But we took them to see Home alone with the orchestra. 64 00:03:22.879 --> 00:03:27.000 Okay, and it was great. This was the a movie up, Yes, 65 00:03:27.120 --> 00:03:29.680 showing you the movie, but a live orchestra is playing 66 00:03:29.960 --> 00:03:32.479 John Williams is fantastic music, yes, John Williams. 67 00:03:32.400 --> 00:03:34.280 John Williams. Yeah, it's one of the sort of the 68 00:03:34.280 --> 00:03:36.439 ones that people sort of forget. You think John Williams, 69 00:03:36.479 --> 00:03:37.280 Jaw Star Wars. 70 00:03:37.639 --> 00:03:40.479 Listen to it, it's like John Williams allover. Yeah. 71 00:03:40.840 --> 00:03:43.560 And apparently the guy who was originally going to do 72 00:03:43.599 --> 00:03:45.680 it wasn't John Williams. It was somebody else because the 73 00:03:45.680 --> 00:03:48.840 conductor his name escapes me. He does all the conducting 74 00:03:48.879 --> 00:03:51.639 for the Melbournsyphony Orchestra, but he was saying that the 75 00:03:51.680 --> 00:03:55.080 original composer had to pull out because he had to 76 00:03:55.120 --> 00:03:59.159 do this other project, this acclaimed classic called The Rescue 77 00:03:59.240 --> 00:04:03.360 was down under. So John Williams was shown the original 78 00:04:03.439 --> 00:04:05.039 sort of cut rough cut of the film and he goes, 79 00:04:05.080 --> 00:04:06.919 I have to do this. So he did that and 80 00:04:07.000 --> 00:04:08.919 just hearing the start because it starts off with the 81 00:04:09.120 --> 00:04:12.639 dude and you're like, oh shit, it's like goosebumps when 82 00:04:12.680 --> 00:04:14.599 you're hearing that live, you know. And the kids loved it. 83 00:04:14.639 --> 00:04:17.120 Although we'll never be taking Holly to that again. She 84 00:04:17.319 --> 00:04:21.680 just she was enjoying herself, but she just can't sit still. Yeah, 85 00:04:21.920 --> 00:04:25.079 So that Holly's just one of those kids where she's 86 00:04:25.120 --> 00:04:28.560 got to be doing stuff she wants to in her 87 00:04:28.639 --> 00:04:31.000 pants and then we there's like have like a water 88 00:04:31.079 --> 00:04:34.079 light show outspront of Crank Casino. Yes, it was more 89 00:04:34.079 --> 00:04:36.839 interested in watching the cricket on the spots bar behind 90 00:04:36.879 --> 00:04:38.519 us then watching the water show, because you know it's 91 00:04:38.560 --> 00:04:40.560 Elliott and he loves his whats. And in the day 92 00:04:40.600 --> 00:04:44.560 after we took them to the Jurassic World exhibition and 93 00:04:44.639 --> 00:04:48.040 that was probably the almost the highlight for me. There 94 00:04:48.079 --> 00:04:51.040 was at the end of it. You see it's cleverly done. 95 00:04:51.079 --> 00:04:53.399 So they build like an actual animatronic t Rex like 96 00:04:53.439 --> 00:04:55.439 the ones you're seeing the film. It looks legit, right, 97 00:04:55.680 --> 00:04:57.720 but it's behind sort of this wire fence with danger 98 00:04:57.759 --> 00:04:59.240 not go behind, so you can't see the wheel, so 99 00:04:59.279 --> 00:05:01.519 it just looks like this TX is stomping and walking out. 100 00:05:02.040 --> 00:05:08.000 And for about thirty seconds Elliott believed and seeing his eyes, he. 101 00:05:07.399 --> 00:05:08.560 Looked at me and goes, is that really? I went, 102 00:05:08.600 --> 00:05:11.079 of course it is. He goes what you see. 103 00:05:10.920 --> 00:05:12.199 His eyes and I'm like, that's what it was like. 104 00:05:12.240 --> 00:05:14.600 When I watched dressing part of the person goes, that's 105 00:05:14.639 --> 00:05:16.399 all fake. That's a fucking dinosaur. 106 00:05:16.560 --> 00:05:19.639 So I would I would have loved it if Elliot 107 00:05:19.680 --> 00:05:21.279 would have had glasses on, and he sort of did 108 00:05:21.279 --> 00:05:24.879 that pulls him off Samuil style. 109 00:05:24.920 --> 00:05:27.079 But there's one point where he goes take a step 110 00:05:27.120 --> 00:05:28.519 back there, take a step back because I was holding 111 00:05:28.560 --> 00:05:30.120 him at the same time I got all on camerady 112 00:05:30.160 --> 00:05:32.160 can hear and going, this is not going to end good. 113 00:05:33.279 --> 00:05:35.839 He was in the moment made he believed the twenty 114 00:05:35.839 --> 00:05:39.079 first it was a really good time. So yeah, so 115 00:05:39.120 --> 00:05:42.040 then we had to watch Dangerous Curves. Now, we've been 116 00:05:42.079 --> 00:05:43.720 saying up to this point now, we're not one of 117 00:05:43.720 --> 00:05:45.920 those podcasts that just bashes every episode. I think we've 118 00:05:45.920 --> 00:05:48.360 been overall, probably ninety five percent positive for the majority 119 00:05:48.360 --> 00:05:49.240 of the episodes that come through. 120 00:05:49.399 --> 00:05:52.639 I think we've been very When you say criticism, criticism 121 00:05:52.639 --> 00:05:56.680 doesn't automatically mean that's bad. Criticism is critical thinking. It 122 00:05:56.720 --> 00:05:59.680 means you're analyzing it. It means you're looking at what works 123 00:05:59.720 --> 00:06:02.000 and what doesn't. It's not just like, oh, there's such 124 00:06:02.439 --> 00:06:04.560 a critic so and people. 125 00:06:04.279 --> 00:06:06.680 Who spack and say, well, these episodes aren't supposed to 126 00:06:06.680 --> 00:06:09.160 be overly critique, they're just meant to be enjoyed. 127 00:06:09.160 --> 00:06:09.480 It goes. 128 00:06:09.480 --> 00:06:11.839 But that's what TV is. You make it to be critiqued. 129 00:06:11.879 --> 00:06:15.600 That's what happens. That's what art is. Yes, yeah, you 130 00:06:15.639 --> 00:06:17.759 can't make an episode and go oh, well, it's your 131 00:06:17.800 --> 00:06:20.560 fault for thinking. You know, that's you should enjoy it, 132 00:06:20.560 --> 00:06:22.519 don't overthink it. It's just meant to exist. 133 00:06:23.160 --> 00:06:25.639 That's certainly one attitude you can take. Yeah, it's maybe 134 00:06:25.639 --> 00:06:27.399 not the best attitude you can take, but it's an 135 00:06:27.399 --> 00:06:28.319 attitude you can take. 136 00:06:28.519 --> 00:06:30.800 If you ignorance is bliss, that's you know that by power? 137 00:06:31.120 --> 00:06:33.240 Yes, yeah, and there's Look, there are certain shows that 138 00:06:33.319 --> 00:06:37.879 don't necessarily reward deeper analysis or that kind of critical thinking. 139 00:06:37.920 --> 00:06:41.279 There just let them wash over you. And look, I've 140 00:06:41.279 --> 00:06:43.800 got those shows and mother, no, no, don't for you've 141 00:06:43.839 --> 00:06:46.120 got those shows in your life. We all have those 142 00:06:46.120 --> 00:06:46.879 shows in our lives. 143 00:06:46.920 --> 00:06:50.680 But The Simpsons has built that core respect though from 144 00:06:50.720 --> 00:06:53.079 it from an audience of what now, twenty years of 145 00:06:53.160 --> 00:06:55.480 season twenty, where you can't just all of a sudden 146 00:06:55.560 --> 00:06:56.160 go oh. 147 00:06:56.000 --> 00:06:57.240 This is just one of the show's supposed to know. 148 00:06:57.319 --> 00:07:00.759 I don't forget and just ignore like you can do ken, Yes, 149 00:07:00.800 --> 00:07:03.920 but you should, but you don't. It's reputation. Isn't that 150 00:07:04.399 --> 00:07:07.079 the reputation precedes it and that you don't stick around 151 00:07:07.240 --> 00:07:08.519 for as long as it's in. Is that if you 152 00:07:08.560 --> 00:07:11.079 don't have a little substance to go with the style. 153 00:07:11.480 --> 00:07:14.079 So you know, I think it's something we should do, 154 00:07:14.240 --> 00:07:16.639 is like pick apart what works and what doesn't because 155 00:07:16.839 --> 00:07:20.680 it's hit highs sometimes that it's hit lows, and you know, 156 00:07:21.040 --> 00:07:23.439 you wonder why that's the case. Why does this work 157 00:07:23.480 --> 00:07:25.839 and this doesn't. That's why you're tuning in. We hope. 158 00:07:25.920 --> 00:07:28.920 The thing is with these flashback episodes, though, is that 159 00:07:29.000 --> 00:07:32.000 the main critique usually is the continuity. People that's ninety shows. 160 00:07:32.040 --> 00:07:33.519 A lot of people hate it because it's how it 161 00:07:33.639 --> 00:07:35.759 doesn't make sense right. We've been able to watch those 162 00:07:35.759 --> 00:07:38.519 episodes in a vacuum. Even if you're watching this one 163 00:07:38.560 --> 00:07:40.600 in a vacuum. The issue isn't the continuity. For me, 164 00:07:40.879 --> 00:07:45.680 it's just how hateful and negative and pessimistic, and it's 165 00:07:45.720 --> 00:07:48.959 just this episode had pretty much the majority of every 166 00:07:49.000 --> 00:07:51.199 element of what I despise about this era of the 167 00:07:51.240 --> 00:07:54.959 Simpsons is the only thing the writers know when you're 168 00:07:54.959 --> 00:07:56.879 doing a flashback is Marginhomer have a fight and it 169 00:07:56.959 --> 00:08:01.600 nearly break up. That's every flashback. Now, every flashback is that. 170 00:08:01.959 --> 00:08:05.160 It's never really about the joys of first meeting and 171 00:08:05.199 --> 00:08:08.160 the you know, the spark of that first. 172 00:08:08.000 --> 00:08:11.759 Game, it was Yeah, but from the team You're onwards. No, 173 00:08:11.839 --> 00:08:15.800 it's always just they even that ninety show It's Marriaging Crisis, 174 00:08:15.800 --> 00:08:17.920 it's always that they always end up fucking other people 175 00:08:17.959 --> 00:08:18.639 nearly and you're. 176 00:08:18.519 --> 00:08:22.680 Thinking, yeah, now, I've only seen this movie. It's an 177 00:08:22.680 --> 00:08:26.879 older movie based on Yeah, I saw it once, maybe 178 00:08:26.879 --> 00:08:29.079 in my late teens or early twenties, movie called Two 179 00:08:29.160 --> 00:08:31.959 from the Road from the late sixties starrying Albert Finny 180 00:08:32.000 --> 00:08:34.600 and Audrey Hepburn and a score from this mix of 181 00:08:34.600 --> 00:08:38.159 the score from the film, Yeah, and my recollection of 182 00:08:38.159 --> 00:08:39.879 But it's a little bit hazy, but you know, from 183 00:08:39.879 --> 00:08:43.200 my understanding, it's it looks at the service like a 184 00:08:43.200 --> 00:08:44.639 bit of a rom colm a bit I'll be like, oh, 185 00:08:44.679 --> 00:08:46.720 look at these two good looking people to get together. 186 00:08:47.320 --> 00:08:50.039 But it also shows I wait a minute, they can 187 00:08:50.080 --> 00:08:52.679 really get on each other's nerves. Oh maybe it's not 188 00:08:52.840 --> 00:08:56.240 meant to be. You know, the good times going going 189 00:08:56.279 --> 00:08:57.840 hand in hand with the bad times. That's what a 190 00:08:57.919 --> 00:09:00.159 relationship said, that's what a marriage is, all that kind 191 00:09:00.200 --> 00:09:02.679 of stuff, And I get the feeling the well the 192 00:09:02.720 --> 00:09:04.679 SIMS is definitely trying to emulate that here. I mean, 193 00:09:04.720 --> 00:09:06.639 they do so with the with the soundtrack, I think 194 00:09:06.679 --> 00:09:08.440 certainly with the end shot all that kind of business. 195 00:09:08.440 --> 00:09:09.720 Because you look at the endhoine like, what's all this 196 00:09:09.720 --> 00:09:12.240 about it? I was like, I was so confused. Yeah, 197 00:09:12.679 --> 00:09:14.759 going about it in this fashion, they just sort of 198 00:09:15.080 --> 00:09:18.000 get it all wrong. There's one or two elements in 199 00:09:18.039 --> 00:09:20.480 this episode that I'm like, if you'd taken this bit 200 00:09:20.519 --> 00:09:22.360 out and use that as the seed from which this 201 00:09:22.399 --> 00:09:25.519 episode would sprout, possibly, but otherwise, no, You're right, it's 202 00:09:25.559 --> 00:09:30.000 completely it's very cynical, it's very even Barton means all 203 00:09:30.039 --> 00:09:31.799 of that stuff. So these are the elements that I 204 00:09:31.840 --> 00:09:34.799 despise about. You know, you're in for a shit episode 205 00:09:34.879 --> 00:09:38.720 when Barton Lisa are the same person. So Lisa is 206 00:09:38.799 --> 00:09:40.440 usually I felt Lisa. 207 00:09:40.200 --> 00:09:42.559 Has been not written all that well later, right, but 208 00:09:42.600 --> 00:09:47.360 Barton Lisa just are both the same shitty kid. Yeah. 209 00:09:47.399 --> 00:09:50.039 Yeah. The whole sing songy bit was really really annoying. 210 00:09:50.559 --> 00:09:53.919 We recently did our episode of Speaking of the Hill 211 00:09:53.960 --> 00:09:55.679 where I've let me find. 212 00:09:55.519 --> 00:09:59.159 Out I remember Mono, I remember Mono. Same story. 213 00:09:59.279 --> 00:10:02.039 It's basically the same story in that if you're lucky 214 00:10:02.120 --> 00:10:04.080 enough to a fan love and sort of a love 215 00:10:04.080 --> 00:10:06.360 that's lasted a little bit a while you've got your 216 00:10:06.360 --> 00:10:08.639 story about how you met, it becomes like your script. 217 00:10:09.600 --> 00:10:11.279 You add things, you take things away, but you're on 218 00:10:11.320 --> 00:10:12.159 the same wavelength. 219 00:10:12.279 --> 00:10:14.480 Yeah. Yeah, And you know when you meet new Bill, like, 220 00:10:14.519 --> 00:10:16.399 so how did you two meet? You instantly sort of 221 00:10:16.440 --> 00:10:19.120 go into that spill if somewhere along though it you 222 00:10:19.320 --> 00:10:21.039 along the line you realize, oh, wait a minute, oh 223 00:10:21.039 --> 00:10:23.039 it didn't quite happen like that, or you know, new 224 00:10:23.039 --> 00:10:25.679 bits get added to it when someone else reveals, oh, well, 225 00:10:25.759 --> 00:10:27.960 you know that night, I was actually on two dates, 226 00:10:28.279 --> 00:10:29.840 and you know, the first one didn't work out at all, 227 00:10:29.879 --> 00:10:31.679 but then I rendered to you, Oh it all worked out, 228 00:10:31.840 --> 00:10:33.200 like you didn't tell me went on a date with 229 00:10:33.279 --> 00:10:37.200 someone else beforehand or whatever. It takes the magic away 230 00:10:37.200 --> 00:10:40.879 from it, it does. Yeah, but so I remember Mono 231 00:10:41.000 --> 00:10:42.320 from from King of the Hill. 232 00:10:42.200 --> 00:10:44.559 Which is available on our Patreon right now or Sticking 233 00:10:44.600 --> 00:10:45.519 the Hill episode reviews. 234 00:10:45.600 --> 00:10:48.240 Yeah, a very sweet episode. I mean I thought it 235 00:10:48.240 --> 00:10:49.480 would pretty well. I think we were worth on the 236 00:10:49.480 --> 00:10:53.000 same page. We quite enjoyed it. Yes, yeah, this episode 237 00:10:53.080 --> 00:10:55.919 does much the same thing and completely fucks it up. 238 00:10:56.639 --> 00:11:00.799 In that episode, right, Hank felt so guilty. Right, even 239 00:11:00.879 --> 00:11:03.639 Hank never really done anything all that wrong in that episode, 240 00:11:03.840 --> 00:11:05.279 he felt so guilty, and he spent the rest of 241 00:11:05.279 --> 00:11:08.399 the episode trying to win her love back here Home 242 00:11:08.559 --> 00:11:11.159 is just as angry at her, saying, oh, you know 243 00:11:11.279 --> 00:11:14.679 this is I've just got here right. Any episode that 244 00:11:14.799 --> 00:11:18.720 has either March or Home or both in the present 245 00:11:18.799 --> 00:11:20.120 day because they do it in the past, it was 246 00:11:20.320 --> 00:11:22.399 in the present day saying the words I wish I'd 247 00:11:22.399 --> 00:11:26.639 never met you. Forget it, forget it, yeah, just forget it, mate. 248 00:11:27.120 --> 00:11:29.720 But I think one of the great things about doing 249 00:11:29.720 --> 00:11:31.480 the shows that we do on the four finger disc 250 00:11:31.519 --> 00:11:34.000 in network is that it shows that there are only 251 00:11:34.039 --> 00:11:36.360 so many stories that can be told. Really, there's only 252 00:11:36.399 --> 00:11:38.399 like seven ways to build a house. But how you 253 00:11:38.440 --> 00:11:41.120 decorate the house or how you build extensions on the 254 00:11:41.159 --> 00:11:44.519 house is therein lies. The genius King of the Hill 255 00:11:44.559 --> 00:11:47.279 did it very very well. Simpsons did not do it 256 00:11:47.360 --> 00:11:50.679 very very well with it's just adding just cliche. 257 00:11:50.720 --> 00:11:54.200 Hank Isaria character cliche, trustpect Neil character, characters who they 258 00:11:54.240 --> 00:11:57.759 only name in passing. They don't introduces, it's just random people. 259 00:11:57.840 --> 00:12:00.559 So why was that going for for mart for Homer, 260 00:12:00.600 --> 00:12:02.360 you know, and why was all of a sudden he's 261 00:12:02.399 --> 00:12:05.559 just taking much give me a break. And the thing 262 00:12:05.639 --> 00:12:08.120 is right you mentioned earlier about that having the story right, 263 00:12:08.679 --> 00:12:11.919 Why would either of Homer or Marge think that that's 264 00:12:11.960 --> 00:12:14.799 a magical story to tell the kids twenty five it's 265 00:12:14.799 --> 00:12:17.360 twenty five years previously, five years from now, when they 266 00:12:17.399 --> 00:12:20.759 both knew that they're both almost embed with somebody else. Yeah, 267 00:12:20.799 --> 00:12:24.759 they're both they were both lying. This makes no sense. 268 00:12:24.919 --> 00:12:27.759 Yeah, taking the two from the Two of the Road 269 00:12:27.799 --> 00:12:29.639 sort of template and trying to map it onto the 270 00:12:29.679 --> 00:12:31.679 Simpsons the way they did here. I don't know. It 271 00:12:31.720 --> 00:12:33.759 was just all fucked up. But then yeah, because none 272 00:12:33.759 --> 00:12:35.279 of it made sense, and mostly none of it made 273 00:12:35.320 --> 00:12:38.559 sense logistically. It was just and I don't oha goes, 274 00:12:38.879 --> 00:12:41.480 I wish you were March. What do you mean? What 275 00:12:41.480 --> 00:12:44.200 do you mean? You were just saying you wish you'd 276 00:12:44.200 --> 00:12:47.200 ever met her. I don't know what is going on. Yeah, 277 00:12:47.360 --> 00:12:49.919 it's you just told Marge to fuck off because this 278 00:12:49.960 --> 00:12:51.480 person's more fun. You're doing limbo wheather. 279 00:12:51.559 --> 00:12:53.840 You're saying, oh, March, I don't need you anymore, and 280 00:12:53.919 --> 00:12:55.279 then all of a sudden he's like, oh you know 281 00:12:55.320 --> 00:12:59.600 what I need March, don't try No, no, no, no, no, no, no, 282 00:12:59.720 --> 00:13:03.200 and then he's saying, stupid march she does this, does that, 283 00:13:03.360 --> 00:13:04.799 and then he sees the carving in the tree. 284 00:13:05.080 --> 00:13:09.159 Oh, I've got to save our marriage. What the are 285 00:13:09.159 --> 00:13:11.039 we doing here? He's so angry, he's knocking it on. 286 00:13:11.600 --> 00:13:12.879 I'm just I just watched this. 287 00:13:13.120 --> 00:13:15.240 I was I have not been this angry, I think 288 00:13:15.279 --> 00:13:17.240 at an episode since the one where Home I left 289 00:13:17.279 --> 00:13:20.799 Marge in the driver's seat. This was that was despicable. 290 00:13:20.879 --> 00:13:25.200 This just was all kinds of just ship riding ship jokes. 291 00:13:25.240 --> 00:13:28.000 What is Flanders now just a crazy psycho Christian. 292 00:13:27.840 --> 00:13:30.720 There's a don't even get me started on Flanders and 293 00:13:30.759 --> 00:13:32.200 this this was this was weird. 294 00:13:32.279 --> 00:13:35.879 This was just fucking ridiculous, And all Flanders is now 295 00:13:36.039 --> 00:13:38.639 is just stupid one liners like the elephants said to 296 00:13:38.679 --> 00:13:40.720 this or whatever, like everything has a ship. 297 00:13:40.840 --> 00:13:43.200 Crossing off my favorite bits under the elephant. 298 00:13:43.240 --> 00:13:46.120 Then what I'm trying to say, though the lines might 299 00:13:46.159 --> 00:13:49.200 be funny, right there, has funny equips, but every single 300 00:13:49.240 --> 00:13:49.919 thing he does. 301 00:13:49.759 --> 00:13:52.320 Now is just that wow is this this? Say about this? 302 00:13:53.240 --> 00:13:55.200 And then but then the whole We're gonna spend our 303 00:13:55.200 --> 00:13:57.879 wedding night trying to fuck up these other couple get 304 00:13:57.879 --> 00:14:00.320 the water pistol. Ready, we know Lock putting a bear 305 00:14:00.399 --> 00:14:02.000 trap outside the door. What are we doing here? 306 00:14:02.000 --> 00:14:03.639 I have no idea. I've got no idea. 307 00:14:03.679 --> 00:14:06.200 What he finds it sexy that Maud's wearing her dead 308 00:14:06.240 --> 00:14:07.279 grandmother's pjs. 309 00:14:08.080 --> 00:14:11.039 What is happening? Yeah, I mean, what the hell is happening? 310 00:14:11.080 --> 00:14:13.519 The pj's thing is kind of funny in and of itself. 311 00:14:13.559 --> 00:14:15.360 I mean, the fact that it's like button up is 312 00:14:15.480 --> 00:14:19.080 the fact that it's her dead drammas. Okay, that's that's odd, 313 00:14:19.240 --> 00:14:20.440 that's uncalled for. 314 00:14:20.840 --> 00:14:24.039 I don't even understand how you write what how does 315 00:14:24.039 --> 00:14:26.639 that enter your mind and go that's a funny line. 316 00:14:27.480 --> 00:14:28.440 It doesn't make any sense. 317 00:14:28.480 --> 00:14:30.320 And what confuses me is this was written by am 318 00:14:30.360 --> 00:14:34.879 Maxtone Graham, who it looks like after So they wrote 319 00:14:34.919 --> 00:14:38.080 twenty four minutes, which I loved, almost my favorite episode 320 00:14:38.159 --> 00:14:41.720 of the season. Right, was that season eighteen? Maybe nineteen 321 00:14:41.840 --> 00:14:44.279 might have been last year, so I think twenty seven. 322 00:14:44.279 --> 00:14:46.440 It must have been nineteen, right, So you read it 323 00:14:46.480 --> 00:14:48.399 with Billy Kimball, right, and they won the Any Award 324 00:14:48.399 --> 00:14:51.759 for Best Writing, and then they go from that to this. 325 00:14:51.759 --> 00:14:54.639 This just felt like two guys looked up. They were 326 00:14:54.639 --> 00:14:56.519 both in their fifties when they wrote this. This felt 327 00:14:56.600 --> 00:14:58.960 like an episode that was written by two guys who 328 00:14:58.960 --> 00:15:01.639 had been made for twenty five years. They're going through 329 00:15:01.759 --> 00:15:04.799 like they It felt like these guys around happy in 330 00:15:04.840 --> 00:15:05.639 their marriage. 331 00:15:05.320 --> 00:15:09.720 And airing their dirty laundry in through this. Oh god, 332 00:15:09.759 --> 00:15:14.480 this was shit. I don't hate the idea of two 333 00:15:15.360 --> 00:15:17.799 seducers falling for each other. Like I forgot the names 334 00:15:17.799 --> 00:15:20.440 of the characters in the Alberto and Sylvia and Sylvia. 335 00:15:21.279 --> 00:15:25.480 I kind of liked the idea of those two clearly 336 00:15:25.559 --> 00:15:30.480 players falling from one another and finding Kindred's player. I 337 00:15:30.480 --> 00:15:32.960 don't know, but who is Sylvia? But the fact that 338 00:15:32.960 --> 00:15:36.840 they're the other person or you know, the the third 339 00:15:37.080 --> 00:15:40.399 not the third wheel, but yeah, the the random element 340 00:15:40.440 --> 00:15:43.080 that could break up the marriage that we know no 341 00:15:43.120 --> 00:15:45.480 one love in the span Yeah, the spanner in the works, 342 00:15:45.480 --> 00:15:48.480 that's right. I like the idea that they they met 343 00:15:48.519 --> 00:15:50.399 each other and like, oh, we're very very happy now. 344 00:15:50.679 --> 00:15:53.000 If I was writing this, if I was Ian Maxtone Graham, 345 00:15:53.440 --> 00:15:55.879 I would have home in margin the kids going to like, 346 00:15:57.080 --> 00:15:58.600 come on, kids, We're off to the lake where we 347 00:15:58.639 --> 00:16:01.360 spent our like our first honeymoon or our first our 348 00:16:01.399 --> 00:16:04.639 first holiday away as a couple, and it's when we're 349 00:16:04.639 --> 00:16:07.200 still getting to know each other. And oh, sometimes when 350 00:16:07.200 --> 00:16:09.159 you meet someone you everything's going great and then you 351 00:16:09.200 --> 00:16:10.720 just cover Oh, wait a minute, there's one thing that 352 00:16:10.759 --> 00:16:12.440 I don't like about them. Does this mean we're not 353 00:16:12.480 --> 00:16:14.360 meant to be together? And while they're at the lake 354 00:16:14.519 --> 00:16:17.720 that first time five years earlier or whatever, they meet 355 00:16:17.840 --> 00:16:19.200 Alberto and Sylvia. 356 00:16:18.879 --> 00:16:21.559 It wasn't the first time. That's what I supposed to visit. 357 00:16:21.600 --> 00:16:24.600 There's there's the twenty years prior, yeah, which is the 358 00:16:24.639 --> 00:16:27.639 timelines fucked up. So it's twenty years prior right where 359 00:16:27.639 --> 00:16:29.639 they were there with Flanders, and Flanders is trying to 360 00:16:29.639 --> 00:16:32.039 prevent them from falling in love, right, but from having sex. 361 00:16:32.279 --> 00:16:35.879 Then it's so all this shit with Alberto and Sylvia 362 00:16:35.919 --> 00:16:39.799 and all that is after they've had the kids, After 363 00:16:39.840 --> 00:16:40.639 they've had the kids. 364 00:16:40.799 --> 00:16:43.960 That's why I'm trying to rewrite. That is what made 365 00:16:44.000 --> 00:16:44.759 me the angriest. 366 00:16:44.799 --> 00:16:49.080 I went, wait a minute, all everything, all the foundations 367 00:16:49.080 --> 00:16:52.840 of this show of margin Homer's relationship. They've had Bart, 368 00:16:52.960 --> 00:16:55.399 they've had Lisa, and they're willing to throw it all 369 00:16:55.440 --> 00:16:57.320 away because they had an argument in the car. 370 00:16:58.039 --> 00:17:01.600 What on earth? Is this shit? Also? How was the 371 00:17:01.720 --> 00:17:04.640 room to pick up pick up bit in that car? 372 00:17:04.880 --> 00:17:09.200 No room forgetting This episode is just the fucking dirt worst. 373 00:17:09.319 --> 00:17:11.599 It was so shit. This is top five fucking worst 374 00:17:11.640 --> 00:17:14.279 things I've ever watched for The Simpsons. It sucked, man, 375 00:17:14.400 --> 00:17:18.759 it sucked well, and from another point of view, it 376 00:17:18.799 --> 00:17:22.920 just seemed to take forever as well. Like I thought, Oh, 377 00:17:22.960 --> 00:17:25.240 this is about to wrap up. Look at the there's 378 00:17:25.279 --> 00:17:27.559 got another seven or eight minutes ago. How much more 379 00:17:27.599 --> 00:17:29.240 story than it fit in here? This is garbage. 380 00:17:29.279 --> 00:17:31.759 It was just Homer and March having an argument again 381 00:17:32.720 --> 00:17:34.960 literally say noids, I never want I wish I'd never 382 00:17:35.039 --> 00:17:37.279 met you, and all of a sudden going actually, I'd 383 00:17:37.359 --> 00:17:40.680 change your one because we need to have an emotional ending. 384 00:17:41.119 --> 00:17:44.559 This was shit. This sucked, This was This was shit. 385 00:17:44.759 --> 00:17:46.799 And having said that, the one continuity issue, though, one 386 00:17:46.799 --> 00:17:48.720 continuity issue if you want to bring up cotton neuit issues, 387 00:17:49.119 --> 00:17:51.200 is that this had to be treated. 388 00:17:51.000 --> 00:17:51.640 As non canon. 389 00:17:51.680 --> 00:17:55.839 You know why because in episode Dan Eat Lisa's fair 390 00:17:55.880 --> 00:17:57.480 to word, one of my favorite episodes of all time 391 00:17:57.480 --> 00:18:01.720 and absolutely iconic episode right, which is where Maggie says 392 00:18:02.119 --> 00:18:05.400 Daddy for the first time. Right, The Simpsons moving next 393 00:18:05.400 --> 00:18:09.799 door to the Flanders, and the Fanners introduced themselves by saying, hey, neighbor, 394 00:18:09.880 --> 00:18:12.160 is great to have you in the neighborhood. And that's 395 00:18:12.160 --> 00:18:12.759 how they meet. 396 00:18:14.160 --> 00:18:19.480 So this episode is just shit shit, I tell you, 397 00:18:20.400 --> 00:18:24.160 it's shipped on multiple Can. 398 00:18:23.039 --> 00:18:25.200 We fuck off with the every flashback now has to go. 399 00:18:25.279 --> 00:18:27.720 Everyone already knew each other. Oh, the Flanners picked up 400 00:18:27.759 --> 00:18:28.839 the Simpsons. 401 00:18:28.599 --> 00:18:33.559