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Speaker 2: How do I look? Bro?
Speaker 1: Fantastic beautiful?
Speaker 2: What's up man?
Speaker 1: What's going on?
Speaker 2: Dude? Not much, bro, I'm ready to get into it.
Talk to some stuff today. I was listening to an
interview of What's that one, guy Greer. I'm ready for
the aliens, dude, ready for the Project Bluebeam. I'm ready
for all that stuff.
Speaker 1: Bro. If they don't start something like, I've just completely
lost faith in the entire thing. Bro. They need to
just be showing up. They needed to disclose a giant spaceship,
some alien bodies or something. But I was watching an
X files clip the other day and I thought this
a lot of this stuff within the community comes from
x files. Like there it's like legitimately parodied from x files.
And there's this one scene where they were talking about
the aliens at Area fifty one and that it's all
fake and that it's all set up for a psyop
in the future, and that the only way that they
can do it is if they reverse engineer, bio genetically
engineered some kind of alien being that humans created, that
created that will be like the false flag, the extraterrestrials
really don't exist. And I'm like, holy shit, this is
what people have been talking about. Well, it's the same thing.
Speaker 2: It's interesting, right because this greer guy, which a lot
of people think that he is a grifter, you know,
these whistle blowers that are supposed to be blowing the whistle,
but yet can't ever say anything. They have to get
clearance from who if you're a whistle isn't that the
whole point of being a whistle blower? But in this
day and age, writer, what would be the evidence that
would be accepted because this is coming from a time
that we got AI, we got deep fakes and all
these different things, right, what would actually satisfy everyone as evidence,
and this guy agree, is like, the disclosure is coming,
you know, uh nine to one one was the first,
you know, a little dip, and then twenty twenty was
the next one. Is like and it's coming. It's already
been five years since twenty twenty, bro, Like, how much
longer are we gonna wait for them to show it?
Like you and I? I was in elementary school. I
was reading about the Bermuda Triangle and I'm like, dude,
aliens are a thing, Like this is this is crazy?
You have the U have you ever seen a UFO? I?
Speaker 1: Well, I showed a video the other day on a
showed that I was doing where I saw something really
strange in my backyard when I was living in Colorado
that looked like a freaking boomerang. Dude, it was the
weirdest thing that I'd ever seen. And I captured it
on military Great night vision goggles. Because we're having like
this little get together with some friends in Colorado and
we were in the backyard and this girl comes up
and it's like, hey, I got some military Great night
vision goggles. Maybe we should scan the area to see
if we can see anything. So she whipped them out
they were recording, I put them up into the era
and then I immediately see this thing that looks like
a freaking weird boomerang like flying v thing and it's
just going through the air and have it on video.
I could actually probably bring.
Speaker 2: It up here, pull that out because I see it, but.
Speaker 1: I thought it was and I was like telling them
as I was seeing it, I was like, what am
I seeing here? And I was like, can you can
you guys see this with your own eyes? And they
said that they couldn't actually see it here it is.
Speaker 2: Wait what so hold on? Hold on, dude, hold on.
So only you could see it, but they couldn't.
Speaker 1: They couldn't see it with their naked eyes.
Speaker 2: So this is a video, oh with their naked eyes?
Speaker 1: Yes, because I was the only one that had the
night vision goggles. So you're gonna see it come down
from the top top left hand corner here, see it
right here?
Speaker 2: That thing right there? Yeah, that's yeah.
Speaker 1: So it comes down and I'm trying to follow it
and because I'm seeing it, and I'm at this point,
I'm as asking them, I'm like, hey, can can you
guys see this? Like look up in the tree line
and see if you can see this what I'm seeing
with the night vision goggles and they couldn't see it
with their naked eye. So and it's not flapping. It
looks fairly big, but again you can't tell because it's cold,
completely pitch a dark outside. But I try and follow
it as long as I possibly can. And I tried
to show this to like several people over the over
the time, and they're like, oh, it's like the real
things that you actually may experience is like just kind
of push to the side, and it's all for like
the fake nonsense. Now I can't tell you this is
I have absolutely no idea. And that's another problem with
the community, is like when you don't know what it is,
they're not interested. You gotta say it's definitely an extraterrestrial
craft and then it'll be picked up.
Speaker 2: You know, well, dude, that video right there is pretty
crazy because at least you caught yours on video. I
didn't catch mine on video, but I had my wife
and my son with me, so they saw it, and
I know I know that I don't know what I saw. Therefore,
it was a UFO was like this orange orb just
no sounds, no, no, flashing lights. No, nothing, It was
like a transparent. It was like a like an orb
like this, but this only the center was orange and
you could tell that like the rest of it was
kind of like see through, so like it like kind
of like a jellyfish, right, and it just like zoomed
across the sky and record anything. But I was I
was thinking about this interview that I was going to
do the next day with the Michael Mike God, I
always mess up his name. He did the the owls
as Aliens. I'm sure you've had him on the show,
Mike McClellan. I think is his name Mike Cleland?
Speaker 1: Not striking a man with me?
Speaker 2: Aliens as owls? God, Man, I feel so bad. So
Mike Cleveland, Yeah, clelland Cleland the messengers owl synchronicities in
the UFO Abductee. He wrote, he wrote a book about
how like owls, you know, these freaking three four foot
owls or whatever that are actually extraterrestrials in disguise. And
I was thinking about that interview at the moment that
I was smoking a cigar and I was smoking and
I was blowing that I was blowing the smoke in
the air, so I was looking up and my son
was the first one to see it. He's like, hey,
what is that, right, a little kid, And I recorded
his his reaction after he got all crazy. He's like, yeah,
they came down and the little aliens came out. I
was like, all right, bro, this is it. This is
not proof enough for me. Do you just completely ruined
any video evidence I was gonna have about it, But yeah,
he was freaking out. And my wife, who was not
even into any of this stuff, she was like, yeah,
that was that was weird, Like that was something I
still to this day don't know what it is. I
live next to an airport, so I'm like, I don't know.
Maybe it was a bloon, but the you know, if
you release a balloon, let's say you release like a
foil balloon or something, it's gonna go up in the
air and it's gonna This thing was moving across at
a steady height and then just left until I couldn't
see it anymore. But so again, I know that I
don't know what I saw. Therefore, I mean, that's kind
of like the definition of an unidentified flying object. But
I didn't get it on camera. How you did, which
is pretty crazy, and so I think that maybe similar
to how this greer guy in the CE five and
all that stuff that he does, because they do like
some sort of meditation, don't they. They like they summon
these things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, supposedly, that's how it works, is that they transmit
telepathically to the UFO ship. So they use their superpowers
to contact the UFO and somehow they remote view the
UFO and then give them their exact coordinates. And I
don't know how they even know their exact coordinates or
could remember it while they're in a meditative state, but
they give them their exact coordinates and then the UFO
alien ship shows up and everyone sees it, and everyone
freaks out and everyone has an experience. But I've heard him, well,
I heard one guy say, I think that it was
on Joe Rogan's podcast that if you don't no, no, no, no,
it was Sean Ryan. It was that one guy that
Christopher christ Chris balletso okay, he was saying that the
C five is if someone is in the CE five
course or doing the C five ability to summon these UFOs,
that if someone is in there that doesn't believe in
aliens or UFOs. Then that makes it to where everybody
else don't get to see anything. So he's essentially saying
that it's based off of your belief, so you have
to wholeheartedly believe in it, and that you're going to
summon UFOs because if there's one person that's a doubting Thomas,
if you got a doubting Thomas in there, the whole
thing isn't gonna work. You might as well just everyone
just go home.
Speaker 2: I believe, though, writer, I believe I think that day
I kind of might have summoned. What do you think
of that guy's story, that the blood cell story, Like
you think he's legit. You think he's because you know
they've had all these people study, he's been on the
History Channel, he's been all over the place, And it's
just so easy, in my opinion, to just make something up, right,
Like you can just make a story and just sell
it and run with it and just like believe it
to the point where you believe it yourself. And that's
why I have a hard time, like, just give me
the evidence. We don't care about all these hearings and
all this other bs. I want the White House Lawn
interview with the alien gay and I just want him
to talk for a telepathically to all of us through
the TV or something, and it's like, here we have them,
here's his spacecraft or whatever it is, and that's it,
because that's what I believe. When I was a kid, bro, Like,
I'm thirty years old, and when I was in middle school,
I was reading about Bigfoot and all these other things,
and I believe Since then, I'm like, I think aliens
could possibly. I think that there are ET's bro. I mean,
I don't know. And it seems like they've politicized everything
and it's like this this show like disclosures coming, and
some dudes just jerk off to that, like, oh, disclosures coming, yes, yes,
it's an endless circle. Jerk bro, Like, I want the good.
Speaker 1: Stuff, disclosure, boner.
Speaker 2: Baby, I want the good stuff, and I want to
know when they're gonna give it to us, because, uh.
Speaker 1: Mexico, Mexico trying to do that. Do you remember that
whole big thing with Heimi Massan where they released the
revealed the alien bodies and like everyone was like freaking
out for like a day or whatever, and oh my god,
Mexico hearings that they revealed their alien bodies.
Speaker 2: And it's like, and this is why I subscribed to
I like the extra tempestrial idea. I don't know if
you've ever heard of that, where they're time travelers from
another time traveling back to visit us and study has
you ever heard that theory?
Speaker 1: I have heard that through a theory of some of
the UFO cults that I've researched and delved into. And
I think a lot of that is like them just
trying to come up with some sort of explanation that
because they don't exactly know what they are, so they're
trying to come up with anything. I mean, if you're
the government, right and you're going to put out all
this wacky nonsense garbage to cloud exactly really what's going on.
And we've seen the evidence of that with the Paul
Bennowitz case. I've been on your show discussing it, and
it's a very familiar case. They just fed him a
bunch of nonsensical garbage about extraterrestrials, and then he went
out and told everybody all of that made up nonsensical garbage,
and everyone started to believe that and then run with
those stories like that extraterrestrials signed a treaty with the
government and the military to do an extraterrestrial base, and
you know New Mexico and all that, and that's where
you get the Dulcet Base or the Duller Space or
whatever the whatever people call it. They're so strict with
their terminology, and if you misspell something, you must be
a FED, or you mispronounce something, that must be a FED.
But that's what my contention is, is like they've just
muddy the waters of all this stuff so much, and
it's gotten so grilled into the zeitgeist of everybody that's
even remotely interested in the topic, and you have to
scroll through so much garbage and nonsense whenever you research
any of this stuff to actually get down to the
truth of anything. And that leads me to the like
the next thing is, like Weinstein was just on Joe
Rogan the other day and I was listening to the
conversation and he's talking about how he believes that these
crafts are actually projections because they go in a direction
that is not humanly possible, Like they make turns and
go and do things that wouldn't be possible for any
biological entity. To be inside of the craft, okay, And
he's kind of related that to some of the particles
and things that have been sprayed in the sky. So
it's made it easier to create this holographic projection of
a craft and that's what everyone has seeing, which I
thought was an interesting take. I mean, we've kind of
heard that before with like the project Blue Beam stuff,
and then.
Speaker 2: I've never heard that before. This is the first time
I'm hearing about that one.
Speaker 1: Well, it was an interesting it was an interesting concept,
and I think that there might be something to that
and I've actually looked into but we again, we might
actually have that wrong as well, because I one believe
if extraterrestrial life exists, Let's say that all the planets
in our solar well not even in our Solar system,
but just in the in the galaxy. But ride with
me on this trip. One ride with me on the trip.
So let's we're under the assumption that in this trip
that extraterrestrial life exists. Well, they wouldn't be traveling physically here, right,
they would if there were highly advanced entities or creatures,
they would figure out a way to just buy locate.
So it would be like they aren't really here. It's
like a projection of what they would be while they're
on their planet, right, And there's evidence of that with
like psychics and remove viewing. Ingo Swan had a technique
that was called perfect site integration, where you go into
this remote viewing state and you're essentially able to bylocate
your body to another area and you're able to influence
the environment. I've been trying to talk about the bylocation
perfect side integration stuff for a while now, But just
take that step and put it on to like a
bigger scale. So it's not that they're actually traveling physically, so.
Speaker 2: That would make them inter dimensional.
Speaker 1: Then sort of, but not even that. It would just
be like a holographic projection of them. But they're not
really physically here.
Speaker 2: You see how that sounds, right? I mean I don't
know if it sounds pretty crazy. So that what they're
projecting something.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean, like astro projection is real. Like
I have one believer that remote viewing is real. I mean,
the government had a remote viewing program for like fifteen years.
Why would they keep it run for that long if
it didn't work. It obviously works, and obviously some people
can do it. So, and I'm just kind of piggybacking
off of what Brett Weinstein was talking about with this
this projection, and he believes that it's like a projection
from people that are happening that's happening on Earth, like
it's the government that's creating these projections in the sky
that people are seeing. And I'm just under the assumption
if it's a theory, of course, if extraterrestrials exist, they're
not physically coming here. They're projecting into our reality through
some sort of by location. I don't know. It might
sound crazy, but it might be might be legit.
Speaker 2: I got a poll running right now. There's only twenty
two votes. Are aliens real see twenty three percent? No,
they are fake? And gray seventy four percent. So, I
mean a lot of people aren't aren't believers, bro. They
think that they're faking gray. So but but then, but
then you have the concept of if we take mythology
and ancient religion and cultures like the things that they're
describing kind of sort of falls You know, a lot
of people like to say that aliens or ET's are
fallen angels, right, that they're the watchers that they're the
netphilum or whatever it is that they say it is,
and like, that's what we're experiencing now, and it's more
spiritual than anything, you know, and it's not sort of
you know, I like to think that there is a
possible I think it would be very ignorant of us
to believe, if the solar system is real place right
with other realities in other worlds, that we're the only ones.
Because if God is as powerful as he is, why
would he only make one race of people or entities
or whatever you want to call them. Right, And take
for example, like the bottom of our oceans or even
the Amazon rainforest where they're still finding new forms of
life every so often, and it makes sense that it
that there is something, But the fact that they look
like us is what kind of strays me away from that,
because what are the chances that they do look like us?
What are the chances that everything, and you know, in
the entire existence of reality, all the other extraterrestrials look
like us. And that's the thing about the alien gray,
that it's kind of a what people say is a
more evolved form of humans, right of Homo sapien with
with no genitalia. They usually have the bigger eyes, the
bigger head, shorter and you know in height. It's like,
what are the chances that they actually do look like us?
Because if you look at any animal at the bottom
of the ocean, that's an alien. Dude. Have you ever
seen a manta ray on mushrooms or not? Not the
manta ray mushroom or the manta ray on mushrooms? No, no,
let me rephrase that. Have you ever taken mushrooms and
looked at a manta ray and looked at the mantary?
That's an alien? Bro yep. Think of the concept of
a of a crab. A crab is like an armored
cockroach of the ocean. Shrimp are cockroaches of the sea.
If we really think about it, and like, look how
crazy those life forms look compared to us, right, and
all the other stuff that lurks at the bottom of
our oceans that we have that we haven't even seen.
I know. The big one recently was that one fish
that swam up. Did you see that that story that
people were freaking out about the fish that.
Speaker 1: One they crawled on the crawled on the ocean.
Speaker 2: No, it was like the I think it's called an
angler fish. We pull it up here, angler fish.
Speaker 1: I know there's one fish that is able to like
crawl out of the water.
Speaker 2: And like you share my screen real quick, hasn't popped.
Speaker 1: Up yet, you guys.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, this thing. I know people were talking
about this and this is from fifteen hours ago. Actually,
so this thing here, Why did they do so? It's
angler rise thousands of feet in the ocean. Scientists baffled
by odd behavior. I thought it was a I thought
it was ai. You see, if they were to show
us a video of some alien. This is an alien. Bro,
Look at that thing. Look at that. That is an alien.
You ever again take mushrooms? Look at a man terray.
It's it's an et Bro. Like it's so crazy looking.
Like you've ever been to uh to the aquarium at
in Atlanta where they have the whale shark. You see this, Stu. Yeah,
there's there's an aquarium in Atlanta. They have a freaking
whale shark in it. Bro. It's like one of the
biggest aquariums that there ever is. And this whale shark
you can see it just you go through the tunnel
and you see it just swimming over and you're like, bro,
that's wild, Like that's a that's a life form, Like
that's a that's a thing that exists in the wild.
So again, if you take all that into into consideration, like, hey,
look at this thing that looks crazy, there is a
possibility that there is something else far more advanced than
us that could be existing. And I don't know if
I buy the whole you know what they're putting into
the air lately. You know, my allergies have been acting
up lately, So maybe they've been going a little bit
too ham here in Florida with the whatever it is.
Maybe hey, maybe they're ramping it up for the for
the holographic projection fight scene or something like. I don't
I don't know, right, And you know that Orlando is
the city in Florida with the highest UFO sidings.
Speaker 1: I did not know that. I've heard that. I've heard
that about a couple of places that New Jersey.
Speaker 2: Well in Florida at least Orlando is, which just like
the main hub. But one thing that I was thinking
about was you mentioned the X Files earlier, and I
was doing a little bit of research on and like
Florida movies and stuff, because I've been going live every
Thursday doing Florida d codes and on Florida movies, and
I had I was using chat GPT the way I
used chat GBT. It's like compile ideas and then you
fact check chat GPT because it's kind of retarded. Yeah,
And one of the things that said to me today
was that in I believe it was the two X
file movies, they always talk about the Everglades being a
special sort of place. Again, I haven't confirmed that, but
you mentioned X files. Have you heard anything on the
X Files alluding to the Florida Everglades being some sort
of like mysterious place for like government experimentation.
Speaker 1: At all, Not that I can remember, but Florida has
always kind of been that type of area. I mean,
Florida is supposedly where the Fountain of Youth is, and
that the Native Americans know where the Fountain of Youth is,
and it's full of like cryptids, like really weird and
strange cryptids that I I've never even known existed, like
the muck Monster, and like.
Speaker 2: All kinds of Florida squallyes. You ever hear them?
Speaker 1: The squalies?
Speaker 2: Now, what are they bro I'm a professional in the
Florida Squad. So the Florida Squalies are Florida pig people.
And allegedly it was this scientist that was doing experimentation
in the Everglades with some pigs. Maybe he was getting
down with the pigs and he created this half human
half pig hybrid that is loose somewhere in the Everglades.
And what's interesting was that I was planning to do
a documentary on the Florida Squalies, right. And there's always
this one story that people always talk about about this
guy in twenty ten or something or other where he
was riding his bike through Alligator Alley and he was
knocked off his bike and you know, crash. The police
came out. Apparently he was very intoxicated. But one of
the things that really stood out in the police report
was that he said that the Boogeyman had caused him
to crash. Now I tracked down. I actually I submitted
a because this was before like it was on the
internet anything, I submitted a request for like the records
of that police report and everything, and they actually did
get back to me. I think it was the Naples
Police department or something or other, because I wanted to
track the guy down to kind of maybe interview him
for the documentary. But apparently he was again that's what
That's what the police report says that he was super drunk.
So now was he was he really drunk or were
they trying to cover up for the Florida squallings because
they don't want people knowing about him, right, So you
gotta kind of But that's the only story really that
you hear about. There's no other you know, people talking
about or other accounts that I could track down and
maybe hey have four or five people. I mean, if
anyone listens has ever seen a Florida squally in the Everglades,
or if anyone lives in the Everglades, because there are
people who live out there, if they've ever seen anything weird,
hit me up because I'd be interested to maybe have
you on a documentary because no one's ever done a
documentary on them, and I think it'd be interesting to
maybe go and hunt for some Florida squalies. Bro. But yeah,
that's the Florida pig people of the Everglades, dude. Some
people say it was a government experimentation gone wrong, that
escaped and they lived on in the Everglades because the
ever is a big, big place. Bro there's hundreds of
thousands of acres out there that anything can go down.
And there's actually a company right now that is being
exposed for they put out this project for like a
drinking water reservoir or something like that, right and they're
digging out in the Everglades. But it turns out that
they were using that as a reservoir, that cover story
for a mining operation. And apparently there's about eight hundred
million dollars worth of rock within the Everglades that this
company was bringing out and last I heard, they shut
him down. But hey, that maybe the rock story is
a cover story for something else, like what's truly going
on in the Everglades that these people obviously want to
get to one, you know, some of the biggest companies
in Florida that they're mining for, you know what's under
the Everglades, Like what's going on? So I think Florida
is a very magical place. I think that's why we
have the Florida man archetype. And I think that the
not to get too woul here, but we are on
the on this skits skits ospiracy hour here we can
just get get all crazy. But maybe the energy of
Florida some people can't handle it. Bro they just go crazy,
They just go off their rocker. And that's where you
get the Florida man archetype possess its people.
Speaker 1: You know, the Florida man. The wild man isn't an
interesting one. How all these things, like even with aliens,
and it's the same with cryptids. They the longer that
people talk about them, the more that like the story evolves,
like it then begins to take on like different aspects.
Like in the beginning of the UFO phenomenon, it was
one hundred percent of physical craft. Then it's turned into
an interdimensional craft. Like they're one hundred percent physical aliens
aliens exactly. Now they creep up there in a tube
and nibble on your asshole. And that seems to be
like the same track that cryptids have kind of taken too.
Is that, especially when it comes to like Bigfoot and
Sasquatch and stuff like that, is that it starts out
as a one hundred percent physical entity and then it
goes Then when we don't find any proof of a
physic entity, then it's interdimensional, because again it's then it's
out of interdimensional. Then it's into government experiment experiments.
Speaker 2: Because it's it's that's how you're saying, it's an answer
for something that they can't answer. And one of the
things that I remember evolving before it turned into a
gay ass dog was the chupacabra. And I grew up
in Puerto Rico with like stories of people you know,
in my town that were allegedly experiencing clawed hands coming
through the shutters and all that I had. My dad's
friends had livestock killed when all this was going down,
and I remember I remember them talking about, you know,
pulling an on e or with shotguns and everything to
see if they could find it. And if you look
at where the chroop of cobra started before it became
this canine bs. Now, I'm not talking about that gay
chup of coppra. I'm talking about the real one, the
one that was like a little alien with like the
spikes down its back, that started from a lady that
they had interviewed who had just finished seeing she had
some encounter, right and she had just finished seeing species.
And it was actually a podcaster or or radio host
at that time that interviewed her, and she described it
like that, She's like, you ever seen the movie Species
that had just come out at the time, And then
from then on after that, it was that little creature.
For a while, it was like the little reptilian thing weird.
I'm sure you could google it and find it. And
it was that for a while, and then from there
it evolved to like this canine, like this dog thing
in Mexico. So I think that to me, that's the
T move version, like the dog chupacabra version. That's like
the T move version. That's like a knockoff the real
I remember the real Chuopocabra, and it looked a lot
cooler than the freaking lame one that we have. Now.
Speaker 1: That's what I was talking about the other day, was
the troop of Cabra. What happened to the troop oficabra?
And why does no one talk about the troop of
cabra anymore?
Speaker 2: Let's make the chuop ofcabra grady. So it went from
like this thing, right, like this weird thing that would
suck the blood from the from the livestock, to then
this I'm like, what Where do we go wrong? Where
do we I like this version way more than this
unmasking the chop. This is a government siop. This is
the SiO right here to make you think it's a
little dog. No, I remember either that or was Mandela effect.
But I remember when it was like this, dude. Can
you imagine seeing that thing coming at you? One time?
I was walking through the the Puerto Rican rainforest by
myself one time because I had I had I had
parked at the top, and then I went through some
trails and it put me down at the bottom and
I was walking up by myself, and I'm gonna be honest, bro,
I was kind of scared because I was again all
the stories I'd heard before, I'm walking by myself. I
was like, Dad, quiet, and there's barely any cars that
go up there. I don't know, man, I could have
I could have been taking out by the chupacabra once
upon a time.
Speaker 1: This thing does look like more of a reptilian like nature.
And then you also have that the lizard man of
I think that it was South Carolina.
Speaker 2: Right here, boom, this is it nineteen ninety five. Witness
that's it right there. Look at that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a little evil alien reptilian.
Speaker 2: Man. The thing is I see that that doesn't strike
fear in my heart. This does if I saw that
thing running to it, Bride punt it so hard. Bro
oh man, you take a six hour to the face.
Speaker 1: One hundred percent of Samurai sword posted out next to that, dude.
Speaker 2: But this is nineteen ninety five. I was one years old,
and I was one year old, and this lady gave
this description based off the movie Species, which I'm sure
you've seen before. Uh, but you know, it's interesting that
a lot of these stories evolve based on what's in
the zeitgeist and the consciousness of people within the area.
And you and I were talking about, like, you know,
the homunculus earlier of like is it real? Is it not?
And You're like, well, I believe in thought forms and
egger Gore's and and Tolpas and stuff, so I think
that the homunculus could be real. It's like, yeah, but
the difference between a homunculus and a thought form is
a thought form is with me right now, like here,
he's chilling with me right now, But the homunculus isn't here.
You just can't see him right and it's like it's
a physical thing versus like a thought that anyone can
really uh you know, come up with. But there are
people who what was it the slender Man murders. For
a while, there was like these girls that sacrificed their
friend to the slender Man entity.
Speaker 1: Because like in West Virginia, I believe.
Speaker 2: Were pole and think about that. So people will blend
reality with make belief for these eegregors or thought forms,
and it becomes a reality to them and who's to
take that away from them? So I find it super fascinating,
like any any cryptid or anything really of you know,
like a belief system because for some people that's like true.
I just did the True Human Breakdown where the Truman
syndrome is an actual like it's not an officially known condition,
but it is a thing that some people experience, which
I'm sure you've met them writer where they go that
Disney movie that was modeled after me, Like, oh shit, really.
Speaker 1: I actually had a guy on the show that was
with Jerry Marzenski. Have you are you familiar with Jerry Marzenski.
Speaker 2: The schizophrenic demon guy?
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, he had him on and he was a
really good guy. And he was basically like, you know,
cracked out on meth, which drugs is to us, you know,
they can influence this entire thing. But anyway, he was
on high amounts of meth and he thought that his
entire reality was just like the Truman Show, that he
was one in the Truman Show, and that all the
people around him, and that there's am on I'm like
twenty four seven, which increases that amount of like paranoia.
But I thought that was a really good episode because
some people do one believe that.
Speaker 2: I'll be honest, bro, sometimes I think that everyone in
the chat is actually just AI generated people that aren't
even real, and it's like they were just created. It's
just chat GBT under a differ whole bunch of different names.
So that's kind of different, right, It's not like I'm
the main character syndrome sort of thing. But it just
makes you think, right with the whole dead Internet theory
of how many people on the Internet are actually real
versus how many aren't And have you ever looked into
the dead Internet theory.
Speaker 1: I've heard of it, and you don't have to refresh
my memory a little bit on it. But I don't
know how much how much truth that you can put
into that, because every person that I know has a
cell phone, so every person is definitely on the internet.
Now if every person probably isn't real acting to everything
and posting all the time twenty four to seven. But
I'm pretty confident to say that a majority of the
population on the planet has a smartphone.
Speaker 2: Seeing everyone in the town right now. It's saying that
they're real. Isn't that what a bot would say, like, Hey,
I am a real person? Like isn't that how they
would they would act like I'm real? Right when you
call them out on it, Well.
Speaker 1: I think we need to give them that that bot
thing where they got to move the puzzle piece to
the right space to confirm that they're not about.
Speaker 2: So we have fifty eight votes seventy six percent, No,
they're fake and grace, So I'm gonna end the poll there.
I'm pretty sure we know where people are out with
the whole alien situation. But yeah, the the whole concept
that you were bringing up earlier about it being some
sort of holographic project. See, but my whole thing is
why would why would they do that? Like I know
that which was the present that talked about that we
need an alien invasion? Was that Reagan?
Speaker 1: Yeah, run on Reagan.
Speaker 2: What a weird thing to say, right of like all
we need to come together as a people, all we
need is like some well let me look it up.
What he said exactly, Ray again, alien invasion, because that's
such a bizarre thing, and that was what the seventies.
Speaker 1: Yeah. See, I think that the reason that they would
have to because I don't think that they can. If
they exist, it would be almost dang near impossible to
travel through space. And we're putting the caveat on it
that space is an actual thing. So it would be
impossible for them to travel through space because it would
take freaking years and years and years, probably hundreds of
years to get to a far away star system. So
the easiest way to do it would just be to
by locate into our reality. That's the only way that
the type of conclusion that I could come to. So
because they physically can't skip out. Water was kind of
talking about this on Sean Ryan's show, where he he
was basically the manager or the tasking manager of the
remote viewers at Fort Meade and the Stargate Project, which
was the remove viewing unit and he had said that
he had contacted this entity and his first question to
this entity was like, how do you travel? Like how
do you get here? And the entity told him that
they don't. But I don't travel if they'll stay exactly
where they are.
Speaker 2: But look at this, dude, I've just seen this last night,
ancient forest discovered. Let me see here, just seen a
thing pap on my phone where they discovered a whole
forest underground. It's like, what if it could come or
February third, twenty twenty five, an ancient forest found under
five thousand year old ice in the bear Tooth. What
the hell is that? Montana sciences are getting international attension
after uncovering a series of ancient trees from a melting
ice patch and the Beartooth Mountains. The trees hold close
to how life adapts and changing, Like what if I
thought it was an underground force? Which those exist by
the way underground force an a whole underground eCos? What
if they do come from? Like the whole thing with
Admiral byrd Bro where he was talking about that he
had encountered these crafts that could travel quickly from the
North and South Pole at high rates and that there
was like this whole civilization. And then the posthumously published
book allegedly of his diary where he talked about being
and talking to these beings and entities down there. It's like,
I think that there are my friend lives in Vietnam
and the dong Nong Caves, I think is what it's called.
It's an entire ecosystem. Do there's only certain animals that
live under in there. Let me look at Dong Long Caves.
Let me make sure I'm getting this right. Yeah, so,
uh hang San Doom the world's largest cave. Uh. Bro,
it's crazy big and there are entire look at this.
Look at this, bro, if they if they stay where
they are, bro, hollow earth all the way. Look at
the people. Look at the cave. And you can go
out here and you can you can camp there for
I don't know how much money it is. It's like
ten thousand or something like that, because I was going
to do it one time with my friend. And look
look at the little tents and this is a whole
forest underground that only certain species of animals and things
live here. Right, So like the whole movie what's that
movie Descent or whatever, where they're underground and they got
the weird creatures hunting them or whatever it is. Like,
what if there's a whole civilization of another type of
life form living right underneath our feet and they're somehow
able to echo locate bro to the top of the
to the top of the Earth and talk to us
right like, hey, where are you? We haven't left? Oh snap?
You know that, that to me is more plausible, Like
if there wasn't anything else anywhere else and it's just
and we are the center of the of the universe Earth,
the center of the universe on some hockey puck or
whatever you want to call it, you know what I'm saying,
And we're there whatever, just layered bro, like all the
way down just you know, underneath us is these freaking
crazy looking things and like these places exist, you can
go there. Imagine how many we haven't discovered. Like these
guys talking about finding a five thousand year old forest,
don't they say that Antarctica is like a forest or
something underneath it?
Speaker 1: There's a forest above it. There's a forest in the
center of Antarctica with greenery.
Speaker 2: Well it's a it's a wall. So I don't know
how that works. But if if it was a real place,
right it would it would be it would be a forest.
Speaker 1: I got a book here from the reader's Digest Antarctica book,
and that's what they talk about. That was like animal
Bird's major discovery of being in Antarctica was that there's
one hundred square miles of lush greenery in the center
of Antarctica.
Speaker 2: Did he find the world tree? Is that what he did?
Speaker 1: Might have found the tree of life? I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe ooh, so this this was discovered in nineteen ninety one, bro,
So imagine that's not that long ago. Imagine how many
other things are still laying around that we don't know about.
So again, I think it's a real possibility, But I
just don't know, you know, the whole holographic projection thing
that you were talking about. And by the way, here
let's talk about the Reagan This was in nineteen eighty seven,
not seventies. I said seventies, So September twenty first, nineteen
eighty seven, And he says it down here? Yet need
it be so? Cannot swords be turned to plowshares? Can
we all? Can we and all nations not live in peace?
In our obsession with the antagget and antagonisms of the moment,
we often forget how much unite unites all the members
of humanity. Perhaps we need some outside universal threat to
make us recognize this common bond. I occasionally think, how
quickly are different? It's his world wide? Woudvanigh it? We
were facing an alien threat from outside this world? And
yet I ask you, is it not an alien force
already among us? What could be more alien to the
universal aspirations of our people's than war and the threat
of war? That is such an interesting thing. Were there
any famous alien movies out of time in nineteen eighty seven?
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure because all those big alien movies came
out in like the sixties, like in the fifties and
the sixties, like the really Crapp that he made alien
footage where they're like all.
Speaker 2: On oh Aliens nineteen eighty six, So you think he
watched and was like, yo, aliens are real.
Speaker 1: Hey. The way the art imitates reality or reality imitates
are you never really know? But I think that quote
is really interesting. I've played it here before. And an
alien threat is already among us, which is lend speculations
you extraterrestrials creating human hybrids and all that, and you know.
Speaker 2: Jews.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean look just like below like the United States,
like that's the alien threat, or above the United States,
that's the alien threat, right, Like those are aliens and
they're already here, and they've been here for a long
time and they've been interbreeding with the people of the
United States. Right. It's uh, it's word magic, dude, all
of these words and all these terms have.
Speaker 2: This world though, is the is the US the world like?
Or is that from like a more American? Is that
a more American thing to say, like we are the world?
Speaker 1: Well, he said from outside of this world, and then
he says, is the alien threat not already among us?
But then he relates it to like war and how
war is like pretty should be alien and foreign to
our way of life, but it never has been. We've
always been in war. There's always been war for as
long as history goes back. So I don't. It's like
it's a cryptic, cryptic thing that he's saying there, I
think anyway, And that's why they do like that. What
does that call the free Masonic? It's like free Masonic
double speak where they give you the perception of what
they're saying, and when you believe in that perception, when
they actually mean something completely different, they're talking about something
that goes so far over your head that you can't
comprehend it. It's it's they're saying multiple meanings, but you're
taking it as to meaning one specific thing when it
might not actually mean that specific thing.
Speaker 2: So he wasn't a Freemason, but he was an honorary
member of the Scottish Rites. So what he kind of
was was involved in the Masonic and shrine functions throughout
his career. Seems like he was amazing to me, Like
he wasn't gay, but he liked men. Okay, that's fine.
It's a different way to say right.
Speaker 1: Double speak baby, So it works. The cryptoterustrial theory is
really interesting and I think that it's highly plausible that
that may be the case. I mean when you look
at like just you know, tribes in the Amazon rainforest
now that have that freak out whenever we get anywhere
near them, and if you were to go to like
their land, they would probably try and kill you. But
if we brought a freaking cell phone to them, and yeah,
they'd be like, oh my god, what is this? And
there's evidence of that with the cargo culture during Vietnam,
Like that's what would happen. They called her John from
like the Vietnam US soldiers would go over there and
then they would land with their place and then bring
them supplies and all that. And then they turned those
soldiers into gods, and they worshiped them, and they tried
to mimic what they would do. They would build their
airplanes and the helicopters and the things that they would
come in on. They would try to build sculptures out
of them with like hay and like shrubbery and leaves
and all that, and they thought that they were gods.
So how many of throughout history? How many could it
be possible that there was a slightly more advanced civilization
while all these other civilizations were also very low in
the total poles. So whenever an advanced civilization that also
lived on earth went to one of these lower civilizations,
would they not think that they were gods? I mean
we have that to this very day. I mean, in
today's age, we have sections of people on the Earth
that are living like essentially like cavemen.
Speaker 2: So they want to emulate their master or something. I
get what you're saying. I see that.
Speaker 1: So it's highly possible that we could have been those
cave people back then, and then the people that we
are now were another race of beings. I'm probably not
explaining this in the best possible way, but it seems
like that that is probably the case. That there's been
these breakaway civilizations throughout the period of history, and there's
always been some group of people that has been more
highly advanced, whether that be technologically advanced like we are
compared to them in the Amazon rainforest now, or more
advanced in their spirituality or like whatever, and we have
mistaken them for like gods and extraterrestrials.
Speaker 2: See. But then that, right, this idea of there being
a highly advanced race that was wiped out for whatever reason.
If there were that advance, why would they get wiped
out to begin with? But you know what I'm saying
that in itself is a conspiracy, right, because that's what
some people use for one of the most recent ones, Tartaria.
It's like, look at all these buildings everywhere. It must
have been a more advanced race of people that were
here before us, and they were the ones that actually
built this and we've we found all this stuff. It's
like maybe you know then the then you get into
the connection of the orphan trains and all that. That's
that's kind of weird too, right where all the kids
come from? Like it's it is. But my whole question
is like if they were so advanced, and why would
they wiped out? Because that's what it seems to be
all throughout history, the Mayans and everyone these civilizations that
just up and disappeared, right the ancient Egyptians they were
what if you look at mainstream history, it's like they
were absorbed by the Hicksos and all these other who
were the Hicksos some no group what like just some
some people. I just yeah, they were just around and
they came and they took over. Right, that's kind of
kind of bizarre, right, So that's a conspiracy right there, Like.
Speaker 1: Well, that's the same type of situation with these UFOs
constantly crashing. If there's such an advanced species of why
are their UFOs always crashing? Like you couldn't you didn't
take any countermeasures to you know, figure out how to
stabilize your highly advanced craft and not crash on Earth
when you're coming by for an excavation.
Speaker 2: So that's what makes me think of that being actually
government technology. And then this whole concept of aliens being
a cover story just to let people run wild with
their imaginations and even the concept. I recently did an
episode where we talked about Crowley and his intelligence connections,
and it turned out that once you really start to
peel apart even the Bible, there was a lot of
intelligent connections in there of like espionage and reconnaissance and
all that stuff, And it's like, has is the occult
and everything else since the very beginning all always been
about just collecting intelligence because think about it, bro right,
a lot of these whistleblowers that come out and they're like, oh,
I can't talk about that. It seems that the most
dangerous piece of information isn't the information how to create
the philosopher's stone. No one's getting killed because they know
how to create the philosopher's stone. But it seems that
the people who walked into the wrong room at the
wrong time and saw somebody of very high political status
or power doing something to somebody that they shouldn't have
been doing. It seems like that piece of information or
blackmail or something or other is the dangerous pieces of information, right.
And if you really think about that concept blackmail, think
about the Church when people give their confessions. You don't
think that the church was using the confessions of the
people that they were receiving to blackmail people to leverage
themselves and put themselves in a higher position. Bro, Like, Hey,
he can't see me, can he? Bro, he's looking straight
at you as you're telling him that you did that
your sins for the week. Yeah, tell me more, dude. Oh,
I'm gonna go report back to my higher up, the
pope or whoever it is. And it's like, hey, maybe
we can get a little bit more out of him, right,
and just kind of sort of twist that and use
that blackmail. Bro. It's always been about that. And I
think that the occult is just another way of like
muddying the waters, like hey, can you control your reality
and all this other bullshit and all It's like, no,
none of that matters. Bush. That, in my opinion, might
be code for something else, right, Like Trimetheus and this
guy who wrote the Senagraphia where he wrote a book
on how to communicate with angels, but an actuality. It
was like like a spy book on how to communicate
between long distances and how to how to uh encrypt
information inside of something that wouldn't otherwise be you know,
valuable information. So you could take a plain text and
hide messages within that. And that was the true meaning
of this grim war that he had wrote. It's like, oh, look,
if you oh, this is about talking to the age.
Remember John Dinaverick Kelly, we're talking to the angels. Bro.
You were you just fell for you took the dude's work,
and we're trying it for real. And I mean he
said that they were talking to angels. I don't know
if they were not. And the angels were like, hey, guys,
in order to achieve nosis, you guys gotta swap wives.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 2: How crazy is that, dude? How crazy is that?
Speaker 1: Seems like every cult ever.
Speaker 2: It's like the angels in the back were just that.
Just tell them, tell them they got to swap wive
to see what they do. These guys are so desperate
they're like a swap wives and they're like, all right, fine,
we'll do it. And they did it, like because they
wrote about it, bro. So that's how desperate. Some people
are for like this higher level of gnosis and knowledge
that they're willing to literally swap wives in order to
learn the secrets of reality, because that's what they were
a promise. Bro, They're like, we will reveal to you
the secrets of the secrets, like the secrets of reality itself,
to unfold it and bring forth the apocalypse. You gotta
swap wives first, you gotta do it. And nothing ever
came of that, bro. So even think about John d
the first Double O seven again espionage and in my opinion, blackmail,
I think that's the most dangerous piece of information that
you can have some forbidden information like the whole Epstein
types and all these other things that we've the Diddy
List and all this other stuff that we haven't even
heard about anymore. Like that's the dangerous information. Because again,
if if they are doing it to worship Satan or
something or other, that's up you know, for interpretation. But
we know for a fact they're doing some heinous stuff,
like a hundred percent, right, if they were doing it
for fun, which more than likely they were, that I'll
want to better, Uh, did you know himself?
Speaker 1: He might but then he might think that he's gonna
completely get away with it and get off on it.
The uh one hundred percent. The Roman Catholic Church was
guaranteed to be one of the first spine networks ever,
like they were their original spine networks. I mean, why
wouldn't you use that in How did the church become
so powerful and basically be the the governance of the
entire world or whatever city that you were in, is
because everyone was telling them everything, their secrets.
Speaker 2: What a better way to keep people in check, bro,
that they literally come to you to tell you everything
because they want to be saved, right, because they have
this looming fear over their heads every single day that
God is always watching them and you have to confess
your sins and then once you do that, then you're
good for the for the rest of the week. Oh,
I feel so great. All right, another week of sinning.
I'll see you next Sunday. And then they do something
you know, saying they just keep it going. Bro. That's
the craziest thing. Now we tell on ourselves with like technology,
in my opinion, with the technology and the surveillance state
that we're experiencing now, we're just telling ourselves like they
can track you whenever they want. Dude, they're listening right,
they're listening to me right now, right, they're they're They're like, hey,
we got to get to this guy, because do you.
I just went on a plane and the weirdest thing
happened to me where I got on the plane and
I was sitting right and the fight attendant goes all
the way to the back and she goes, uh, Juana y'alla.
I'm like, yeah, can I see your idea in your
boarding pass? I go, yeah, sure, And my wife's looking
at me like are we in trouble? Right? She made
it seem like it was like this thing. So I
give him my idea, my boarding pass. I thought I
was gonna get kicked off the plane for like, I
don't know, whatever she has. She had a list, she
had like a list. She looked at my boarding pass
and looked at the list and then gave it back
to me. And I was the only person she did
that too on the plane. So my wife was like,
that was weird. And I go the one on one
podcast is probably on some lists somewhere and they're watching
me because I was the only person that she asked
for my boarding pass. And identification and then she just left.
It was the weirdest thing. Bro. I don't I Bro,
I don't know what it was, but it was weird.
So I might be on some on some lists somewhere,
like all the shit that we've talked.
Speaker 1: Bro, who you might be? You won the FBI C
I am most Wanted list. Baby. I had something similar
like that that happened. I had never had. I've flown
a lot, and as soon as I got on the plane,
they one of the flight attendis asked to see my
boarding pass. They didn't ask for my idea or anything
like that. They just wanted to see my boarding pass.
And I was like, how do you think that I
got on this plane? Like you think it's not gonna
let me on the plane without my boarding pass? Why
do you want to check it again on the plane.
Speaker 2: You just checked it right before I got on here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like two minutes ago. Someone just scanned this boarding
pass to let me onto the tarmac to be able
to get on this plane. It's like, hey, and the
one to check it again.
Speaker 2: The homunculous guy's on this flight, Go go check them.
He's he's talking too much. We gotta we gotta keep
an eye on him.
Speaker 1: He's want to summon the monkey lie all great and powerful.
Ho monkey Lie, that's gonna bring about the apocalypse. Baby.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, So again I think that the whole alien
agenda think is hilarious. And it just came up because
I was watching that Greer interview and like, people eat
it up. Man. They just hear the same thing over
and over again, and it's just like this little glimmer
of hope of that one day that the government will
go on full, full, full disclosure. And it's like, dude,
I want the real stuff, show me the craft.
Speaker 1: And you got Luella Zondo sayings that something is going
to happen very soon, something big, some big event. It's
every single year, it's the same thing up there. It's coming.
They're going to finally do it.
Speaker 2: How long has saying that for how long?
Speaker 1: Five years? At least?
Speaker 2: Come on, dude, come on, at least. It is weird
though that like nowadays they're pushing it more and more. Right,
did you did you end up watching The The Rig Show?
Did you end up watching that on Amazon? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I got it on my my most my most watch
list watch list. I haven't watched it yet.
Speaker 2: All right, we'll talk about that.
Speaker 1: Too. Much stuff going on right now. The Duxter just
ended been watching Dexter. I've been watching Traders on Peacock
was about to be over with I like some stupid
TV too.
Speaker 2: Bro, Come on, well we'll watch it. We'll watch and
then we'll talk about it next time, because it's got
to do with the whole fog thing that came up
and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: And Yellow Jackets season three just started too. It's a
really good show. I've seen it.
Speaker 2: No Yellow Jacket I still got to watch from or
whatever that show is.
Speaker 1: Oh dude, come on, bro, you haven't watched that yet, dude.
Speaker 2: Oh god, I'm sorry. Got my disappointment to you.
Speaker 1: Bro a little baby, but it is a really good show. Bro,
Like I haven't let you down with shows or movies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, so not yet, bro. I'll watch. I'll check
it out, all right.
Speaker 1: Bro. Let everyone know where they can find you online.
Speaker 2: Www dot t J o JP dot com. You have
to put the www because an equals six to six
to six in Jamatria, so you gotta, you know, put
it in there. No, I don't know. For whatever reason,
it doesn't go if you just do TJJP dot com.
But yeah, put that website in. All my links are
on there. I'm on YouTube, I'm on Twitter, I'm on Instagram,
I'm everywhere speaker, all that good stuff. I'm on there.
It's just fun. Bro.
Speaker 1: You gotta put the www in there because he's a
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