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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to side Quest. This is our weekly

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video game show here at Geekbverse, and I'm your host

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el must and I am not alone. I've got the

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Soul Fighting Travis Snell with me tonight. How are you doing,

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my friend good?

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Speaker 2: Other than I could have no idea, I had no

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thoughts on what a nickname should be. I tried, I

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looked at it. I know I had the joke about

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being the Token Fighter because like a token coin, but

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I couldn't make anything work there, so sure just kept

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it simple. But other than that, doing good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I'm excited for this episode because you know,

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one of my favorite things to do podcasting wise is

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making lists, making rosters, making drafts, all that kind of stuff.

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It's always always fun. So we're gonna be doing that

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today for Marvel tokon Fighting Souls. Of course, don't forget

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that amazing Marvel Fighting game title, which is kind of

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perfect timing. It's funny. We so this game was announced,

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we had the idea to do a cast like this

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before more of the roster gets announced, and then I

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saw that the developer was like doing a direct and

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I assumed that it would spoil a bunch of the

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phone we're gonna have here because they were gonna show

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off more characters, and they didn't show any new characters

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in that whole direct, even though they had their own

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like publisher direct, so that was lucky. But I think

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this weekend they might show off more because they announced

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that there's an announcement of an announcement happening at EVO

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this weekend, so we might get more very soon here.

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So I think this is the perfect time for this.

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And then we have a couple other kind of topics

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to get into it. Nintendo Direct. You know, it came

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out the morning that people will be listening to this

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episode that will be covered next week on side Quest.

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We'll see what happens there. It's a partner direct, so

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it could be crazy hype or it could be just

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kind of mid. I'm expecting more of mid, but a

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good mid, I think. And then yeah, I think that

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we kind of just get right into it today. Travis,

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What are you even playing lately? Any updates on Donkey

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Kong or any other games you wanted to shout out here?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just a few, just only a little on dunk On,

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a little what the girl's been playing? I said, I

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would because I learned about it being about some now

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I said I would beat it. But I've been really

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in the thick of getting videos ready for the GV Day,

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which is happening August ninth, So tune that that's starting

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at ten am literally today. Must be the way I

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was sitting. But my arm like this people don't know,

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would be like if you're holding a mouse in your

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arm is elevated to the side right now, and I

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do that, it legitimately hurts. I've been doing that so much.

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There's a lot of editing and clipping. But yeah, everyone

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will say the GVD, there's about an hour's worth of

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videos that are best of and behind the scenes and

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some of our thoughts. So it's gonna be a good

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and it could be a little bit more. I'm hoping

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to get some other faces to make some appearances or whatnot.

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So didn't play as much because I wanted to. There

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was one that I really wanted to like no, because

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I'm actually like, I think I'm on the last video

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for GVD, but I just want it like done. I

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just want it nice and locked right to go because

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I'm a classic. I'll leave it the same with an

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in school, I'd leave it to midnight the night before,

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like no, no, this isming, I want to It's ten

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year so played a little bit, played like only like

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a couple I'll saynbe like four more hours additional, just

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kind of like not much of the mains, no more maybe,

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I think, Okay, So here it is. I think I

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did play four hours, but I'm gonna say really three

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because the last hour I was doing just like I

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said on the review, I was in a constant loop

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of false sleep, wake up, falseleep, wake up. It's and

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it was in a lava place. It's right before you

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get there. I've unlocked the zebra thing, so we can

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quickly talk about that, because I remember you're like, oh

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I don't like that. We can talk about when you

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get it. But eyes in that.

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Speaker 1: Spot it's my least favorite. But I don't, okay, dislike it.

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I guess is okay.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, So I'm in that area and I was

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falling asleep, and man, I lost a lot of coins

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because I kept falling asleep and falling the lava, and

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the lava deals a lot of damage in this game,

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like you lose like three and a half parts like that,

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these things where I just wanted to get to like

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a am I idea stopping point you can save at

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any point. I just being a psycho of like, I

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want to complete this mission and then stop. But then

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I came back the next day did more of that.

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half an hour forty five minutes I did have another

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I thought that boss where it's like you had to

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kind of dodge throw a brick at them and then

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they zoom up with ice and you gotta use the

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zebra thing to run up and hit them. So I'm

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just like a little past that, but yeah, what's your

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beef with the zebra? Still still in fun, but what's

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your beef with the zebra?

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Speaker 1: Well, it kind of goes back to what I was saying,

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how everything in this game you can like cancel any

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action into any other action. So if you like jump,

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if you're midjump, you can like just roll the other

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way and you can just do any I feel like

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you can even do that with all of the transformation

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type movement things, like you can just cancel moves into

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each other and it feels super fluid. I just feel

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like Zebra is the one that once I get into,

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like I start sprinting, I like can't move very much,

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you know, left and right, and then I can't like

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there's certain moves that you just like can't cancel out

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of that. So it just it feels the most rigid,

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I guess, whereas the other the rest of the game

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is very open and flowy and everything kind of calmbos

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into everything. That's the one move where I feel kind

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of locked into it when I do it, So I

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think that's maybe why it's my least favorite.

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Speaker 2: But that's fair. No, No, I like, I'll say I'm

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got to the other ones because how many in they're

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in total, because I saw something draged you can spoil.

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I know there's like an ostrich, right, I think, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you get the ability to fly, so you're gonna

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get that one next that's in the jungle, like when

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you choose between the two paths, and then there's.

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Speaker 2: Two more after that, two more after that.

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Speaker 1: And the last one you get is I forget it's

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actually I think it's the last one might be the fourth,

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but that one's definitely my favorite, And so you're in

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for a treat after and the Ostrich is also great.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well I'm I'm not gonna promisp, but my hope

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is I'm not on side Quest until another two weeks

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from now. My plan is to one hundredercent have that

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done because my thing is like, I'm very looking forward

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to one of these nights pretty much after August ninth.

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Just chill out. I don't podcast three days after, so

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by the time the videos or that, I'm maybe be

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playing a lot of that. But no, I'm not fun,

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and I agree with you, it's a little rigid. It

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should feel a bit more fun to rent around. It

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just feels like you're just in a straight line and

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that's kind of it. But yeah, other than that, one

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night of fall asleep a lot was a pain, and

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girls they bust it open. Uh lego. Harry Potter shouts

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out to Taylor.

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Speaker 1: You know, oh yeah, that was a great game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know. We've we've if you don't know,

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we've reformed the Wolf Order for the billion of time.

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As a gift, he gifted my children the Harry Potter

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Lego collection, uh one to four and five to seven.

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funny and it's like, you know, roll on, Harry Hermione

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and you like you can kind of think about what

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now when just turn eight and then Logan's gonna turn

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five out a month, but still you know, eight seven,

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five year old. Those times where it might get difficult

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and you can't figure something out, you think as an

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adult what that might do the kid mindset, So, which

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is good because we try to remind them me. It's

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a team building game. You're like these three you're trying

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to work together. It's gotten progressively better, but there's sometimes

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like stand on this thing all you fell off, like

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all that type of stuff. Right, So but no, it's

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been fun because I think I talked about this years

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ago and maybe another time where I'd reported that we

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got it was like on games Pass or it was

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like the like a free game of the Star Wars

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Lego one, and I was very excited to play with them,

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but they just were at that point where the camera

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control those angles was just too much for them. But

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at all. So that's very fun. So I'm very excited

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that they're enjoying that game. I've only played a little

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remaster for PS four, we played through that. But I

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think I'm gonna play it again with them soon. I'm

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just kind of letting because it's just a two player game,

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me and Emily are there to help out. But probably

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when they have to go replay submissions, I'm gonna get

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back in there. But yeah, it's been fun seeing them

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do that. I'm excited they like the Lego games because

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there's just like a plethora of stuff we can jump into.

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never played The Lord of the Rings. One, never played

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An Jones, I never played Pirates. I'm not sure how

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easy those are to accumulate right now, even on Anybay,

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though I'm sure they'd be easy to find just playing

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Xbox or something like that. But yeah, so no, there

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have tons of fun of that, and Lego Games is

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the few amounts of time I've played with it. It's,

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you know, still just like a It's like chicken soup

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for the soul. You'll sit down and you just like

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going around that they're making a a Batman one, but

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tackling the movies. So instead of like Lego Batman, it's

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gonna be like the Keyden Ones, the bail Ones. If

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we get a pat someone Man. Yeah, and I said

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to Emily, the most obvious one they got to do

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like Lego Batman, right there has to be a Lego

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Batman level or roll or whatnot. Or so that's just

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a rumor right now. I think it's like a Sea

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that'd be true, because I know they're kind of getting

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away from lots OF's licensed properties, but I miss I

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when me and Emily cracked up in the Marble Legos

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one that was doesn't matter, we're not kids, but that

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was a ball. We had tons of fun playing that.

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really to me, but I hope that something Lego property

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comes out again or something classic. But yeah, so that's

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some Lego Harry Potter right now where they're on, they

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which is which is nice. So yeah, I feel like

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those would be good early games, and obviously they're kind

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of designed for kids and adults alike.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, Plus, you don't like when you die, you

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just lose some pieces, right, you don't like die die,

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so that's always no.

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you know.

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Speaker 2: No, have you ever gotten to the point I've never

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gotten this? Do you know what happens in don Kon?

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If you were like lose the hearts and then not

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having a coins, Like, I feel like that's un like

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impossible to do because you're at least always I feel

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like around five hundred if years walking by stuff. But

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I wonder what happens.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if the game if it does a game

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over and like makes you reload your save. I'm guessing

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you just like, yeah, get stuck at zero and then

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you're kind of kind of hooped. But yeah, yeah, I

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haven't happened. Haven't had that happen yet.

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Speaker 2: Let us know if that's happened to you out there?

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, okay for me, I kind of just

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have some updates. So Donkey Kong, after you beat the game,

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there is like this side quest feels like the wrong

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word for it, even though that's what the show they're

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on right now. But yeah, there was like this other

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kind of bonus challenge missionse thing that opened up across

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several of the levels. You kind have to go back

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and revisit some of them, and there's some hidden secret

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things or like I don't know, maybe these quests opened

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up like when I went to further layers. I don't

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know if I couldn't tell if it was like when

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I rolled credits, or if it was earlier and I

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just didn't go back to the levels. But there's a

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few extra things to do, so I've gone back wrapped

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up all that. I think I'm done with the game now,

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Like I didn't get one hundred percent completion or anything

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like that, but I did all the what I kind

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of consider the interesting stuff in there. So yeah, I

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think I'm down. I've put it down at this point,

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but I'm excited to have that kind of spoiler discussion

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with you when you finally get through the ending sequence

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of the game, because there's still a lot of things I

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want to share about the game, but I don't want

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to spoil them. And then Astrobot Astrobot had pretty much

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through the last few months. They've been dropping levels every

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once in a while, and I think in July or

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over the last month or so, they've dropped the last

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I believe it's the last set, because at the end

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of it had like this big, like thank you for

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playing thing. It seemed like, Okay, this is the final

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update for this game at this point. But yeah, man, Like,

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over the course of just the last few months, they

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added like, I don't know, fifteen twenty new levels into

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the game. A lot of them aren't quite short, but

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I just added a bunch more in there. And I

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feel like if I had any criticism of Astrobot, it

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wasn't even really criticism. It's just like when I was

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done the game, I was loving it so much. I

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just wanted more, like a little more challenge, and I

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feel like that was kind of what the mission statement

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was with these DLC maps. Some of them were really hard,

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really tight platforming, getting you to reuse different powers, even

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used in a while, like good variety in there, adding

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in fun bots, you know, other fun crossover characters and

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things like that. So just amazing deal scene. All of

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it was was free, of course, and just dropped intermittently.

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I'm I feel like I'm like a little bit sad

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now that I probably won't be getting any more updates

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for that game until like the sequel comes out at

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this point.

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Speaker 2: But but yeah, what.

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Speaker 1: An amazing game. Was already one of my favorite three

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D platforms ever, and now that all the DLC isn't

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in there as well, is just an even better and

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stronger game. So I can't recommend that game enough. It's

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really fun to go back and revisit that one one

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more time and then just a quick update here. But

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I'm still playing a bunch of death threading too, oh

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a bit. Yeah, yeah, I because I think at this

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point I've decided I'm going to try and get all

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the trophies in there. And so there were some trophies

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for like specific side quests that take a long time

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to unlock because it requires you to get like certain

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star levels with certain people, like you need to get

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four or five, or like the ghost Hunter for example,

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he has a lot of side quests and like every

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time you get a new star level with him, unlock

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this new one pretty much, so I've completed all of well,

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i haven't got five stars with ever right now. But

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I think I've completed all those bonus side quest things

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that open up, which is oftentimes like new different boss

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fights that weren't in like the main story or anything

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like that. So I've completed all that stuff now. The

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only thing I need to do now is get five

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stars with all the people, and then a few more

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of the elimination missions. Like sometimes you'll be giving a

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quest right like a suborderor whatever that's like just defeat

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this enemy camp or something, and they're so freaking rare

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you just need to get ten of them. I've been

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playing the game for like seventy hours and I still

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don't have ten of those completed, just because of how

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rare they pop up. So I just need to get

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like two or three more of those, and then you know,

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five stars. The five stars, I'm not in a rush

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like that might that might take me to the right

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end of the year. I was thinking of even maybe

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saving the Snowy Mountain section for like the winter, to

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like close it off then or something. But yeah, it's

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just I think right now, like I you know that

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I'm done with Donkey Kong. I was looking at like

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the release calendar and there's like not a whole lot

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coming out in August and the next like until like

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mid late September for me, and then there's gonna be

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a ton of things. And so I'm in a bit

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of a lower period here where I don't know what

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I want to play it. It seems like a good ton

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to knock some things off the backlog, but also death

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Stranding at this point is like a good turn off

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my brain and just kind of go through and deliver

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some packages and you know, listen to a podcast or

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something on the side. So yeah, still playing a shit

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ton of Death Stranding, and I I still have a

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lot of the criticisms I have with it, And then

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I wish the game like push me more and use

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some of its new mechanics in a like, I don't know,

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more forceful way, I suppose. But I still just love

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that basic gameplay loop. It's it's fun, it's satisfying, and.

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Speaker 2: It's too addictive to the same way. I will say,

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I can't remember if I said this on sid quests.

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I tell you that I did do the ghost Hunter mission.

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Do they tell it on air, because.

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Speaker 1: Like the one with like the race lap thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so I did do that because I

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did find in the network or on the menu, there

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is a way to turn off the Chiro network, So

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that was good.

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Speaker 1: I didn't I noticed that too because every time I

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go back to him, I have to turn it back

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on because I just kind of leave it off. And

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so yeah, it's like a funny quirk, but I actually

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think it's a really interesting gameplay into story mechanic, Like

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that was a fun reveal, like it it was pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: I like that. Yeah, so I finally did that. It

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took me a little bit because I went like where

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I was on the whole other side of the map,

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so I had to go there. Can say sometimes fast troll,

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but really not because I just like I like to pick,

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Like there's always stuff to pick up, right, So it's

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like the next time you visit this person and you

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have five random things that star me or just goes up.

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So it's not a game. I I think I maybe

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trans fast like twice in it this time, like this

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go around like not like this play just like the

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whole gaming I did, because just there's always stuff out

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there and I feel like now I'm a master at

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avoiding the bets or I know how to maneuver them

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and whatnot. So went all the way over there. But then,

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of course, so then I found that out because I

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did yeah YouTube that found that out, did that, and

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then I went to that mission where you did the

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race there. But of course it's like, well, you gotta

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come back at night time, that's where the accidents are something.

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Oh my god, I did that, like so it's like

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it was quite a journey. But again that's why I

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like what desk stranding is. The basic thing can be

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a journey, just depending on the time you're playing it.

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And that was really fun and it reminded me a lot.

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It's it's funny the movies up coming in October, but

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like tron Aris with those bikes and everything we around,

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it felt like that with the racetrack and no, I

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thought that was really cool. And that's one that I'm

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very happy was not locked or one those like oh, sorry,

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you went too far, because it's not like earth chattering,

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But there's not really anything like that really in the game,

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Like I can't remember. There's times where we used the

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bike and there's some action, but this was really a

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particular like an action bike level.

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Speaker 1: Director's cut of the first game didn't they add like

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some races or something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they did.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I just maybe that was the closest because

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even that's righting too. Even though it's a more vehicle

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it feels more vehicle focused. Yeah, I feel like there

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wasn't really much like that and after I don't know

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if you've encountered them again, but like those bikes will

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just randomly show up sometimes on the highways and like

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fight you now, Like it's just like a perme.

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Speaker 2: I had that happen once. Yeah, and no, I like that,

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and like I said, it's one of those things where yeah,

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and the director's cut, Like I I enjoyed what I

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did back then, but I just felt like it was

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like weirdly tacked on it. Just I don't know, it

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never felt too natural to me when I got that's

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where some Yeah, I didn't love it like kind of

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some other people. But no, I was very happy I

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did that and that was tons of fun. And uh yeah,

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I will probably pick that back up because I feel

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like I have what is my I have my gaming

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schedule right here because I'm trying to stay on it.

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Let me just put an awin.

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Speaker 1: Wait, are you still using backlogged or you just have

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like your own little note sheet kind.

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Speaker 2: Of backlog I have, and then this one I just

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have for I think backlog. I just have the games

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I should reorganize. I have the games that I need

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to play, but right now my notes, I have what

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I'm doing. Yeah, August I just left empty because I

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just want to do whatever. So I think August is

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just gonna be more Donkey con and desk strand that's

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pretty much it. And then September is Alan Wake two.

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That's my plan to do that kind of transition into

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the horror season because I really want to play number two.

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But I was like, how weings right around the corner

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do that? So yeah, no, cause I think I'm l

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with you. There's not much that I'm like unless something

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gets announced in August that I'm dying that I have

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to get. So but uh yeah, we'll see.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Well let's uh. I wonder if this game

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we'll get announced to come out in August. But Marvel

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Cosmic Invasion got a new trailer. It's not gonna get

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a release state that soon. That would be that would

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be crazy. But it just got a new trailer which

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showed up a couple of new characters and still doesn't

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It's still confirming twenty twenty five, but still hasn't picked

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an actual date, which is annoying to me because I'm

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very excited for this game. For anyone who forgets, this

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is kind of like the the beat him Up Marvel

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game Pixel game that, like I think the TMT trailer's

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revenge team is working on this one. So it has

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like that same beautiful pixel art and animations and has

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a roster, a pretty different Marvel roster than like other

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typical Marvel games. He has a couple of classics in there,

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but because of the cosmic side of it, they're bringing

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in some of the some of the weirdos out there,

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which I really like. And so the two new characters

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they showed off here in this trailer were Silver Surfer

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and Beta ray Bill. So I'm very excited for both

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00:18:45,039 --> 00:18:47,160
of those, because even Thors in all these games, but

477
00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,000
I think it's fun to throw Betarey Bill in there

478
00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,480
for a little mix up, and then Silver Surfer obviously

479
00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,680
that's really fun. I feel like he is a character

480
00:18:53,759 --> 00:18:56,359
that has not actually really appeared in that many Marvel

481
00:18:56,599 --> 00:18:58,920
games over the years, Like I'm thinking about like Ultimate

482
00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,200
Alliance or you know, talking about fighting games. We'll go

483
00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,160
and get into that soon. Like just kind of underrepresented

484
00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,359
for how popular and interesting and unique the character is.

485
00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,279
And obviously it's yeah Silver Surfer time with Fantastic four

486
00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,000
First Steps just coming out, So this is really cool.

487
00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,200
And I mean I was already get this game day one,

488
00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,440
but now I'm gonna get it day one. Minute one.

489
00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,440
I don't know how I can do one of that,

490
00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:20,440
but yeah.

491
00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,440
Speaker 2: Second one, just like a yeah. For me, it's one

492
00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,759
of those things that's odd because I feel and we'll

493
00:19:25,759 --> 00:19:28,279
maybe talk about it in a certain roster later or whatnot,

494
00:19:28,319 --> 00:19:30,799
but I just feel that he is one of he

495
00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,240
or even she, because I feel like, yeah, that's something

496
00:19:33,279 --> 00:19:36,000
that at least went away for like non losers, was like, oh,

497
00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:37,759
I don't know, they're not doing the mail one and

498
00:19:37,799 --> 00:19:39,880
then after that four other than I'd say some people

499
00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:41,319
be like I wanted more and be like, oh man,

500
00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,799
I love Shaala Ball, you know. So I think the

501
00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:48,400
for me, Silver Surfer is in that type of trying

502
00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:53,079
to think who else would be okay, like DC's Doomsday

503
00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,200
or Marvel's Venom, where it's just a character that just

504
00:19:56,279 --> 00:19:58,279
looks cool and has a fan base a feel that

505
00:19:58,599 --> 00:20:00,559
maybe I have not even read a comic, read one

506
00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,920
single comic of Silver Surfer, but they go, oh, I

507
00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:04,480
love it. I think Eve Kirkle wul admit to that,

508
00:20:04,519 --> 00:20:06,400
like Kirkle's never read a Silver Server comment, but he's

509
00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,440
always like I'll take as much Silver Surfer as I

510
00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,359
can get. Like that fan bases.

511
00:20:11,079 --> 00:20:13,039
Speaker 1: For like the weirdest reason, where like my dad growing

512
00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,599
up has collected like the Marvel Trading cards, and I

513
00:20:15,599 --> 00:20:17,279
would always look at those and like I didn't read

514
00:20:17,279 --> 00:20:19,319
the comics or I wasn't watching many of the shows

515
00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,000
at that point, but I would just see the characters,

516
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,240
see their picture, read the abilities, and like, you know,

517
00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,000
be a kid like pretend all these characters. And I

518
00:20:26,039 --> 00:20:27,920
always remember that of all the cards my dad had,

519
00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,559
Silver Surfer had like the most stacked stats. So I've

520
00:20:30,559 --> 00:20:32,960
always been like, oh, Silver Surfer is the most powerful

521
00:20:33,039 --> 00:20:36,039
character in all the Marvel universe. So I'm excited to

522
00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,960
feel that power. And when I finally get this game.

523
00:20:39,039 --> 00:20:40,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it looks cool. Like I said to you

524
00:20:40,799 --> 00:20:42,519
before that I think this is on the list, but

525
00:20:42,519 --> 00:20:44,039
I think it'll be on the list to purchase when

526
00:20:44,079 --> 00:20:46,599
it's on a deal or whatnot, because especially now the

527
00:20:46,599 --> 00:20:48,599
girls older. We had a fun time with the Power

528
00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,359
Rangers one, and this one I think will be even

529
00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,599
better because Power Rangers one was like a I think

530
00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:53,720
the one we played was a kind of like a

531
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,960
remaster with his ground up. But man, it's just like

532
00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,839
I don't know where, Like I don't know where we

533
00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:00,720
are in the next few years, but I'd love to

534
00:21:00,799 --> 00:21:03,680
do an Extra Life or something with that type of

535
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,200
theme to the colors, like just the art style and

536
00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,880
the colors. Man, it pops so well. And like you

537
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,519
said that, like the retro style as well. Yeah, yeah,

538
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,000
it's a retro style and it has like a nice

539
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,519
like HD Version two, which is great, which you can't

540
00:21:17,519 --> 00:21:19,240
do with some of those remasters. Right, It's like, Okay,

541
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:20,599
it looks as nice as you can. But because this

542
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,400
is ground up is great. And no, I love the

543
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,599
roster of she Hall Beairay Belt. So like, you know,

544
00:21:26,799 --> 00:21:29,920
these are things that you know MCU five years ago,

545
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:31,759
you know, these could have been billion dollar franchise. Maybe

546
00:21:31,759 --> 00:21:34,400
not as much now, But I love that it's a

547
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,359
weirder team because we get so much of the other

548
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,920
characters all the time, right, So yeah.

549
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then I think at one point, I don't

550
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,519
know if they've shown this before, like Hella is in

551
00:21:44,559 --> 00:21:46,160
there as a boss bite, which I feel like any

552
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,680
game that has Hella boss fight always a super fun

553
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,359
boss fight. She's just a great villain to have in

554
00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,720
that kind of role, So cool to see her in

555
00:21:52,759 --> 00:21:54,200
there as well. Seah, I'm very excited for this game.

556
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:55,480
I don't know if there's much else to break down

557
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,079
from this trailer because it's kind of just more of

558
00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,279
the same and all that. But yeah, just loving the style,

559
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,920
loving this and yeah, really really looking forward to one

560
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:03,400
of my most anticipated games for the rest of the

561
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,759
year for sure. And yeah, the last one from that

562
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,440
team Team and T was on game Pass, so I

563
00:22:08,519 --> 00:22:10,839
wonder if this will also Maybe that would hit that

564
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:11,839
there and you could jump in.

565
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:13,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, a bit more easy, we'll see.

566
00:22:13,599 --> 00:22:17,319
Speaker 1: Yeah cool. Okay, how about with that we take our

567
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:22,839
first break and we will be right back. Okay, we

568
00:22:23,039 --> 00:22:28,519
are back. So Marvel Tocon Fighting Souls is the newest

569
00:22:28,559 --> 00:22:31,240
fighting game from Arc system Works, who made Dragon Ball

570
00:22:31,279 --> 00:22:34,319
Fighter Z and Guilty Gear. Now they're making a Marvel game,

571
00:22:35,319 --> 00:22:37,039
and yeah, what we're gonna do here is similar to

572
00:22:37,079 --> 00:22:39,119
what we've done before many times. We're gonna make a

573
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,440
kind of a dream roster for who we want to

574
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,319
see in this game. Not a prediction of who we

575
00:22:43,319 --> 00:22:44,880
think is gonna be in the game, but our dream

576
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:46,599
roster who we most want to see. And maybe there'll

577
00:22:46,599 --> 00:22:48,920
be some overlap between a dream roster and like an

578
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,079
actual prediction of it. So right now, there are eight

579
00:22:52,599 --> 00:22:55,960
characters that are announced for the game. I'll mention those

580
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,960
in a minute, and then we're each gonna pick. We're

581
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,039
gonna pick twenty four over all to get in there.

582
00:23:01,319 --> 00:23:03,519
When I looked at their last couple of games, uh,

583
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,200
you know, Dragon Ball Fighter Z and Guilty Your STRIVEE.

584
00:23:06,279 --> 00:23:08,480
Both those games started with around twenty four characters as

585
00:23:08,519 --> 00:23:10,400
the roster, and then with DLC got up to like

586
00:23:10,559 --> 00:23:13,200
thirty two forty something like that. So I think thirty

587
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:14,599
two is a good number for us to aim for.

588
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,480
We'll kind of pitch it as like, okay, maybe the

589
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,680
game does start with just like twenty twenty four, but

590
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,640
then I think, you know, well, this is definitely a

591
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,680
game that I'll have dlcavery fighting game does. It makes

592
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,920
a whole lot of sense assuming this game does well,

593
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,000
which I'm sure it will to some extent, and I

594
00:23:27,039 --> 00:23:29,599
feel like, especially you know, this game is a four player,

595
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,759
four man tag team battle situation, which I don't know

596
00:23:32,759 --> 00:23:34,200
if any fighting has ever done that, but I feel

597
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,119
like you need a big roster to satisfy people, being

598
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:38,960
like I always have to pick four characters, so I

599
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:39,720
feel like you need.

600
00:23:39,599 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 2: Something there too, you know, yeah, exactly before, So.

601
00:23:43,759 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 1: I imagine this game will get a pretty big roster.

602
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,119
And obviously Marvel there are hundreds of characters or if

603
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,880
not thousands, that you could pick from to put in here,

604
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,000
and they already have a couple kind off the wall characters.

605
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:58,400
But before we do that, I just really for fun,

606
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,759
because I like doing all this nerdy stuff. I went

607
00:24:00,799 --> 00:24:03,519
through and looked at every single Marvel fighting game that

608
00:24:03,519 --> 00:24:06,759
has ever been made, and I charted all the characters

609
00:24:06,759 --> 00:24:08,799
that are in that game, and then I, you know,

610
00:24:08,839 --> 00:24:11,200
put in a spreadsheet pretty much to determine like who's

611
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,440
the most common and who's been in like all these games,

612
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,559
who has only appeared once, who has never appeared in

613
00:24:15,599 --> 00:24:18,759
a fighting game before? So I'm gonna go through that.

614
00:24:18,799 --> 00:24:21,640
There's one exception, which is Trevis. Have you heard of

615
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:27,119
the game? Marvel Contest of Champions, say app game, it

616
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,920
was a phone game, but it actually just recently launched

617
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,319
on Steam as well, like they finally poured it over.

618
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,160
But this is a Marvel fighting game that has like

619
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,359
three hundred characters or something crazy in it. I downloaded

620
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:40,880
the game on Steam and tried it, and it's very

621
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,359
loop boxing, right, Like it's very slow to unlocked characters

622
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,640
and not like give a nice character selec screen and

623
00:24:45,799 --> 00:24:48,200
it sucks. I mean it's a phone game, so like

624
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,119
maybe if you're playing on a phone, maybe it's maybe

625
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,319
it's good. It's pretty good visuals for a phone game,

626
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,599
but like literally you can't even there'sn't even like a

627
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,200
walk button, Like you literally you can swipe to like

628
00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,240
attack towards your opponent or you can swipe a way

629
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,559
to like roll away, and then there's like two types

630
00:25:02,599 --> 00:25:05,160
of attacks, and then there's like a super attack when

631
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,480
you've like filled up your bar, and that's it. Every

632
00:25:07,559 --> 00:25:10,000
character plays the exact same like it's the all the

633
00:25:10,039 --> 00:25:13,480
exact same mechanics, exact same feel. It's just like different animations.

634
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,119
So for the sake honestly, because it kind of throws

635
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,240
all my numbers off. If I account all three hundred

636
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,359
of these, so I'm just disregarding that game. I'm not

637
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,319
counting it because to me, it's like barely even a

638
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,440
fighting game, like you can't even walk in it. So

639
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,359
it's to me, I'm not counting it. Okay, So people,

640
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,119
you know, you can dispute this if you want. But

641
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,200
for me, the way I wanted to do this, I

642
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,240
didn't want to chart three hundred people in all this,

643
00:25:33,279 --> 00:25:35,559
so there's too much for me to do, so that

644
00:25:35,559 --> 00:25:37,720
that is the I guess exception you could say to this.

645
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,880
But the games I do have here on my list

646
00:25:41,759 --> 00:25:44,759
are of course Marvel Token Fighting Souls. The first ever

647
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,359
Marvel Marvel fighting game was X Men Children of Adam

648
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,640
in nineteen ninety four. We got Marvel Superheroes from nineteen

649
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,559
ninety five. We got X Men Versus Street Fighter from

650
00:25:53,599 --> 00:25:55,640
nineteen ninety six, but I didn't even know existed. You know,

651
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,160
that was kind of like before Marvel verus Capcom. They

652
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,680
just did like very specifically X Men and Street Fighter, right,

653
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,319
so six rosters.

654
00:26:02,519 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense because the X in the nineties

655
00:26:05,319 --> 00:26:07,240
it was Spiderman X Men, and it really X Men

656
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,160
ran game in that company, so that that makes complete sense.

657
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, it was just cool to learn that. Like

658
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,279
before Marvelous Capcom there was kind of like the you know,

659
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,319
more specific delineation there. There's a game called Avengers in

660
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:21,200
Galactic Storm from nineteen ninety five. We got Marvel Superheroes

661
00:26:21,279 --> 00:26:24,319
Versus Street Fighter nineteen ninety eight, the first Marvel Verus

662
00:26:24,319 --> 00:26:27,720
Capcom in nineteen ninety eight, Marvelous cop Camp two, and

663
00:26:27,799 --> 00:26:31,000
in two thousand, X Men, Mutant Academy from two thousand,

664
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,839
X Men Mutant Academy two from two thousand and one,

665
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,200
X Men Next Dimension from two thousand and two. They

666
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,640
were just spamming them in those three years. Marvel Nemesis,

667
00:26:39,799 --> 00:26:42,400
Rise of the Imperfects in two thousand and five, and

668
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,079
then a huge gap here in twenty eleven Marvel Verus

669
00:26:45,079 --> 00:26:48,440
Capcom three, another huge gap, and twenty seventeen Marvel Verus

670
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,160
Capcom Infinite. So obviously, back in the day, games were

671
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:52,920
much quicker to make, and you can see that just

672
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,519
directly in this chart how there were so many games.

673
00:26:55,559 --> 00:26:58,279
Between ninety four and two thousand and five, there was

674
00:26:58,319 --> 00:27:00,000
like ten games, and then since then we've only got

675
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,559
two games, which is kind.

676
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,599
Speaker 2: Of shows the landscape of kind of. Yeah, I think

677
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,000
both brand and the genre, right, Like, not that if

678
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:11,759
games are not successful, but it takes very specific type

679
00:27:11,759 --> 00:27:13,440
of game games in general, right.

680
00:27:13,519 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 1: So, and even on top of that, like it's been

681
00:27:15,799 --> 00:27:18,759
over twenty years since there's been just a Marvel fighting

682
00:27:18,799 --> 00:27:21,720
game like without Capcom involved. That's which is which is

683
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:27,839
what's again ignoring Marvel Contest of Champions, absolutely ignoring. So

684
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:29,880
I think the way I want to do this is

685
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,720
by first quizzing you a little bit. Give me who

686
00:27:32,759 --> 00:27:35,839
you think, like the top five most common characters in it,

687
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,880
who who have been in the most amount of games here?

688
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,799
And I guess the total number that I have here

689
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:47,279
is what is it? One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen.

690
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,759
There's fourteen games that I have on my list. So

691
00:27:49,759 --> 00:27:51,839
who do you think are the top five most common

692
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,359
characters to appear in these games?

693
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 2: Well, if you were to go by the Marvel Capcom

694
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,599
collection game I had, I'm Blackheart. But I'm not going

695
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,240
to go just off of that. You know, a wild character,

696
00:28:01,519 --> 00:28:03,480
I'm gonna say spider Man is in top five.

697
00:28:05,559 --> 00:28:08,759
Speaker 1: Spider Man is right on the cusp of top five.

698
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, damn oh Okay, I got that in the the Okay,

699
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,200
Wolverine would be next because I feel like I'm always

700
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,319
seeing those claws on a box art. Okay, so I

701
00:28:18,319 --> 00:28:21,960
got those two. I feel like I'm gonna go for

702
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,400
an easy another easy one for at least in the

703
00:28:24,519 --> 00:28:27,160
ninety is gonna throw the the Hulk in there.

704
00:28:27,559 --> 00:28:30,559
Speaker 1: The Green Machine Hulk is not in top five.

705
00:28:30,799 --> 00:28:32,799
Speaker 2: I had a feeling that if he was, he is

706
00:28:32,839 --> 00:28:35,319
more at the bottom. But Dank is the nine number.

707
00:28:35,519 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: So he's he's close. He's in the top ten, close,

708
00:28:37,519 --> 00:28:38,519
but not quite top five.

709
00:28:40,039 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 2: The next I don't want to say iron Man, even

710
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,640
though let me laugh, that's it, but iron Man we've

711
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,960
seen in multiple games. Iron Man was on there, but

712
00:28:47,039 --> 00:28:50,039
war Machine was, and he was a tier character. I'm

713
00:28:50,039 --> 00:28:52,160
gonna say, is Cap top five?

714
00:28:52,559 --> 00:28:53,279
Speaker 1: Cap is top five?

715
00:28:53,319 --> 00:28:57,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's a street fighter. Okay, let's see here.

716
00:28:58,519 --> 00:29:00,960
I'm trying to think who else can I'm trying to

717
00:29:01,079 --> 00:29:04,319
think about who encapsulated the nineties and then who was

718
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,440
more over again than the later ones. Oh, I'm gonna

719
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,480
go with I don't know what I'm gonna go for again.

720
00:29:11,519 --> 00:29:13,559
What we're just talking about that fan base is venom

721
00:29:13,559 --> 00:29:15,279
in there the venom.

722
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,319
Speaker 1: Venom is not he's like fifteenth ish.

723
00:29:18,359 --> 00:29:20,319
Speaker 2: Oh really, okay, I thought it was okay because in

724
00:29:20,319 --> 00:29:22,319
the nineties that Gap Horn play, he was in all

725
00:29:22,359 --> 00:29:24,359
of them, so I thought he would be those and

726
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:25,240
then the ones later.

727
00:29:25,319 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: So, okay, do you want a hint or you wanna

728
00:29:27,039 --> 00:29:28,759
keep going here and I'll do a couple more and.

729
00:29:28,759 --> 00:29:30,799
Speaker 2: Then see if I can get a hint here. Actually

730
00:29:30,799 --> 00:29:33,160
I'll take one hint. Actually no, I'll just because it

731
00:29:33,279 --> 00:29:36,519
is Storm, one of them Storm. Yeah, I thought so,

732
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,920
just because like the big you know, Powers project as okay,

733
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,480
So I got four right now, I got so I

734
00:29:40,519 --> 00:29:44,400
need one more. I'm gonna try and not do a

735
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,640
hint because that my hint was gonna be is there female?

736
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,400
And I'm not gonna ask. Let me see if I

737
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,240
can get at least a couple more yet. So that's

738
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,240
another X Men character. I just don't know if anyone else.

739
00:29:56,279 --> 00:29:58,079
I'm gonna say, because he's been on a bunch of covers,

740
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,440
is Cyclops one of them? Is he in the top five?

741
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: No? He top ten though, where he's actually pretty high,

742
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,480
but he's not. He's actually six super high.

743
00:30:10,559 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 2: Just I just feel like there's so many covers of

744
00:30:13,119 --> 00:30:15,160
who's the guy the black hair and the white in

745
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,880
street Fighter? Or is the street Fighter or CapCo who

746
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,119
he's like, he's in one the Smash games too? Is

747
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:22,359
it Reeu or something like that?

748
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:23,799
Speaker 1: Oh real, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

749
00:30:23,799 --> 00:30:25,759
Speaker 2: There's so many covers of you know them going off

750
00:30:25,799 --> 00:30:29,640
because I guess their main character energy. Okay, Damn Scott

751
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,039
was six. Okay, I'm gonna try and do one more

752
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,920
and then I'll start asking for some hints that narrowed

753
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,599
down because his problem is, like I think we got

754
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,559
two X Men in there and the nineties popped up.

755
00:30:41,559 --> 00:30:44,519
I'm just having a problem who could be that last one?

756
00:30:44,519 --> 00:30:47,200
So I'm gonna take a Seawan that I'm gonna take

757
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,319
a Sewan the Dark and say Magneedle is one of.

758
00:30:49,279 --> 00:30:53,559
Speaker 1: Them, Magneto is the last. Top five was definitely the

759
00:30:53,599 --> 00:30:55,079
hint I was gonna give of, like, just think about

760
00:30:55,079 --> 00:30:57,440
all those X Men games they were spanning, so it

761
00:30:57,559 --> 00:30:59,519
kind of boosts all the X Men characters more than

762
00:30:59,519 --> 00:31:01,680
you would kind of expect if you think about more

763
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:02,680
recent history.

764
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 2: Of Marvel Verus Cap Company, and I feel like those

765
00:31:04,519 --> 00:31:06,839
three characters always make it in when they just still

766
00:31:06,839 --> 00:31:10,039
do Marvel games. Right, because Storm and Wolverine like Wolverine's

767
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,960
eight tier guy, Storm, Great Powers, and Magneto. It's like

768
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,799
a class like who if you name the top four

769
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,279
villains of Marvel, it's like Him, Loki, Thanos, and one

770
00:31:19,359 --> 00:31:20,359
of spide these guys.

771
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: Right, So yeah, who do you think is number one?

772
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 2: Who?

773
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: Out of those five? So I guess yeah, from Storm, Magneto, Wolverine,

774
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,079
cap Spidey. Who do you think is number one?

775
00:31:29,119 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 2: Who's been I'd say Wolverine.

776
00:31:31,599 --> 00:31:32,359
Speaker 1: It is Wolverine.

777
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:36,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, makes sense. The only ones said there's sixteen games.

778
00:31:37,599 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: No, you haven't linked My list is either thirteen fourteen games.

779
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,160
The only ones he's not in are that Avengers in

780
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,440
Galactic Storm game, because I guess that was very specifically

781
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,160
only Avengers. He was not of the most recent Marvelus

782
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,119
capcom which is funny because I probably had like one

783
00:31:50,119 --> 00:31:52,079
of the biggest rosters. It's funny too because that game,

784
00:31:52,319 --> 00:31:54,440
I feel like from Marvel Verus capcom fans, everyone loves

785
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,160
three and everyone kind of hates that newest one, And

786
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,799
I wonder if that's why. I wonder if the roster

787
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,759
was kind of off it to not have Wolverine feels

788
00:32:00,799 --> 00:32:03,759
like a really strange choice. And then he's not announced

789
00:32:03,839 --> 00:32:06,319
yet for Marvel Token Fighting Souls, so that you know,

790
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,319
is it likely he's gonna be in there. Maybe, but

791
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,240
he's not quite in there yet, so that actually hurts

792
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,920
his number, So we'll see if that gets upgraded. But

793
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:13,880
even Storm is in.

794
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,079
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say Storms if no X Men were.

795
00:32:16,119 --> 00:32:18,680
But I think he's getting this loot. I think I

796
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,680
think it's happened. I think he's just that's a high pick,

797
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,519
you lean back a little bit.

798
00:32:22,599 --> 00:32:27,359
Speaker 1: So yeah, So I on my list here, there are

799
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,200
eighty two characters that have been in fighting games over

800
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,119
the years. I'm gonna go through all of them because

801
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:33,359
you know, that's what we're here to do. We're here

802
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,880
to have fun. So, as you mentioned or as you

803
00:32:36,599 --> 00:32:42,400
kind of predicted, there, Wolverine in number one with eleven appearances, Magneto,

804
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,680
Storm and Cap all with nine appearances, Spider Man round,

805
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,880
you know, the top five with eight appearances, and then

806
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,720
we have Cyclops, the lone seven appearance guy, so he's

807
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,319
been in quite a few good for him. And then

808
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,480
for six appearances, we have Gambit, Hulk, Juggernaut, and Iron Man.

809
00:32:58,519 --> 00:33:01,160
So Gambit, I feel like kind of appearing more than

810
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,279
I would have expected. Once again, all these X Men

811
00:33:03,319 --> 00:33:05,160
fighting games in the nineties, I guess that makes sense.

812
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:09,039
Boosts the numbers a bit. For five appearances, we have Silock,

813
00:33:10,039 --> 00:33:11,880
Doctor Doom, and Sabretooth.

814
00:33:14,519 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 2: Okay, so yeah, sil like sneaking there, but again, nineties

815
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:18,519
very popular.

816
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:25,039
Speaker 1: For four appearances, we have Sentinel, Shoe McGrath, Rogue, Venom,

817
00:33:25,119 --> 00:33:27,559
and Phoenix. So obviously it's funny when we're going through

818
00:33:27,599 --> 00:33:29,440
that collection, like Shoe mc gore ath just in all

819
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:30,000
these games.

820
00:33:30,599 --> 00:33:33,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, Phoenix should be higher, like like obviously she's not bad,

821
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,680
just me like in general, you'd think she'd be there.

822
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,079
Speaker 1: But and also, yeah, Rogue, I can't recall seeing her

823
00:33:39,079 --> 00:33:40,480
in one of these games, but I'd like to see

824
00:33:40,519 --> 00:33:42,559
what that move set looks like. Yeah, in terms of

825
00:33:42,599 --> 00:33:44,559
like if they take the power stealing part of the

826
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,319
character or if she's just punching and kicking and flying around,

827
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,480
not too sure. And then okay. For three appearances, we

828
00:33:51,519 --> 00:33:55,880
have ghost Rider, your Boy Omega, Red, your other boy, Blackheart,

829
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:02,240
that knows Beast, Misty, and Toad. Toad's been in three

830
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,240
fighting games, not Mario's Toad, but the uh of course

831
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:11,559
the Poison Spitner. Okay for two appearances. We have Colossus, Iceman,

832
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:18,199
Service Surfer, Spiral war Machine, Pyro Forge, Havoc, Nightcrawler, Dor

833
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:23,039
Mamu four, Doctor Strange, Hawkeye Nova, and Rocket Raccoon. So yeah,

834
00:34:23,079 --> 00:34:26,280
thor only before games great and actually the two most

835
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,599
recent Marvel Verus Capcom games. So until like twenty eleven

836
00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:31,960
or whatever, he had never been in a Marvel fighting game.

837
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 2: Which seems pretty crazy.

838
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,039
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then here's the people who've only appeared in

839
00:34:37,119 --> 00:34:38,920
one game. This, this is a big list here, So

840
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,239
Miss Marvel and star Lord who are in Tocon that's

841
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,079
their first appearance in a fighting game. In the new one,

842
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:52,000
we have Black Night, Crystal, Thunderstrike, kath Thac, Doctor Minerva,

843
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,760
Shatter As Supreme War. I don't know, like all of

844
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,880
these freaks were in one game. They were all in

845
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,880
that Avengers in Galactic Storm game, so there was like

846
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,039
a bunch of villains who were like all those ones

847
00:35:03,079 --> 00:35:07,119
pretty much. We have specifically, Armor spider Man is like

848
00:35:07,159 --> 00:35:11,079
a different spider Man on this as a character. Mephisto

849
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,559
Us Agent has had one appearance. High Speed Venom is

850
00:35:15,599 --> 00:35:19,079
a different variation of it. We also have hyper Armor

851
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,960
war Machine as a different variation. We have Cable Marrow

852
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:30,920
Apocalypse Professor x Bastion Betty also known as Kwanan, who

853
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,679
I believe is Silock's sister or Silock's apprentice or something

854
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,320
like that. We got Bishop Blob, Dark Phoenix as a

855
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:42,280
different variation on Phoenix, Lady Death Strike, Daredevil, Who's had Yeah,

856
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:47,719
there's one appearance, Elektra, Human Torch and the Thing. But interestingly,

857
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,639
Mister Fantastic and Sustorm have never appeared in a fighting game.

858
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:55,280
We got Deadpool. Deadpool only has one appearance in all

859
00:35:55,360 --> 00:36:00,360
his history. We got we got Modoc, she Hulk, Super Scroll,

860
00:36:00,559 --> 00:36:04,320
task Master X twenty three, and Iron Fists or sorry,

861
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,679
I have a few more actually, but iron Fist here

862
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,079
was one that shocked me. Black Panther has only appeared

863
00:36:09,079 --> 00:36:13,480
in one game. Yeah, Black Widow, Captain Marvel also shocked me.

864
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,639
H Gomorah, Ultron, and Winter Soldier. So those are all

865
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,079
the characters that have ever appeared in a fighting game except.

866
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,039
Speaker 2: For Vision Couple.

867
00:36:23,199 --> 00:36:25,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a Yeah, I made a little list

868
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,239
of of some big omissions.

869
00:36:26,679 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 2: Here, but modowks in there, Modoc oh, yeah, we gotta

870
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,239
have at Yeah.

871
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:37,280
Speaker 1: The biggest omissions for me ant Man, Wasp, Scarlet, Witch, Quicksilver, Loki.

872
00:36:37,679 --> 00:36:40,360
Loki's never been in there, Vision shun Chi. I don't

873
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,480
know if that's a big snub just because he's is

874
00:36:42,519 --> 00:36:43,360
he newer character.

875
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,199
Speaker 2: I feel like he did take a big deal to Newish, Yeah,

876
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:47,519
Newish for sure.

877
00:36:47,519 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: Uh, Moonnight, Luke Cage, nay More, Squirrel Girl, Punisher, Kingpin, Green, Goblin,

878
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,760
Gwen Orbiles, Blade, Groot, even though Rockets appeared a couple

879
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:03,400
of times, Mister Fantastic two Storm, Silver Surfer, Yolena, you

880
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,280
know that's what maybe not shocking, but she'd just become

881
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:09,800
bigger lately. Magic Adam Morlock, Hella Morbius I put on

882
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,880
this list too. He's never appeared in a fighting game.

883
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,159
So so yeah, like quite a few kind of shocking

884
00:37:15,159 --> 00:37:17,039
ones who have never never made an appearance before.

885
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a couple like a Blade, especially in the nineties,

886
00:37:21,519 --> 00:37:24,760
that feels kind of odd because Blade was like he

887
00:37:25,599 --> 00:37:28,599
I guess Blade actually is at ninety nine, there were

888
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,880
ninety eight let me see Blade film. It's actually pretty

889
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,599
late in yeah, ninety eight, so still there probably could

890
00:37:34,599 --> 00:37:37,559
have been one more game made like that. Early aughts

891
00:37:37,559 --> 00:37:38,039
and stuff.

892
00:37:38,079 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 1: So I think, yeah, if there weren't so many X

893
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,960
Men games and there were more just like Marvel games,

894
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,880
and I think you would see a lot more variety.

895
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,400
But because it was like a lot of X Men

896
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:47,559
and stuff, that's where you get a ton of the

897
00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:50,280
like the Blobs and Toads who were like, really those

898
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,880
guys made it a fighting game over fucking ant Man.

899
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,719
But yeah, like you, when you think about the context

900
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,639
of it, it kind of makes a bit more sense. Okay,

901
00:37:57,679 --> 00:38:02,519
So the current roster for Toke is Captain America, iron Man, Ghostwriter,

902
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:06,599
spider Man, star Lord, Storm, Miss Marvel, and Doctor Doom.

903
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:07,159
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

904
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, but what do you think about that roster? Obviously

905
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:10,920
we talked about it when the game was announced, but

906
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,360
how are you feeling about that now that we've been

907
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,280
kind of marinated on it for a couple of months.

908
00:38:14,639 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, because that was the tough thing because I

909
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,639
looked at it earlier today when we were talking about this,

910
00:38:18,679 --> 00:38:22,039
and I tried to find a character kind of bass like, Okay,

911
00:38:22,039 --> 00:38:25,679
which route they going, But they're not really going, like

912
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,239
really not at all. The pure fighters, right, It's just

913
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,840
like like old school where it's just like, Okay, we're

914
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,639
just doing a fighting game, but it's lots of people

915
00:38:33,639 --> 00:38:36,000
of different powers. Like you got Captain, Like, yeah, sure,

916
00:38:36,039 --> 00:38:37,840
CAP's a fighter, but then the rest of me got

917
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,360
like Iron Man, Big Machine, you got star Lord, there's

918
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,960
some tech and boots, Storm, doctor Doom, like there's a

919
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,920
lot of variations.

920
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:45,760
Speaker 1: There, straight up fist fighter in here.

921
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,639
Speaker 2: Really CAP's the closest, right but even then, like I

922
00:38:48,639 --> 00:38:50,960
would like, he's got the shield, but like that's the

923
00:38:51,039 --> 00:38:53,559
closest we get to that. Sin's where it's like, okay,

924
00:38:53,559 --> 00:38:56,000
it's not that. And then as far as a vibe,

925
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,199
they're not really to me, the vibe was I'm not

926
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,000
saying off of a back bad way, but to me, the

927
00:39:01,079 --> 00:39:03,239
vibe was thrown out the window when you had Doom

928
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,159
and Ghostwriter in there, because ghostwriters, that's a did you

929
00:39:06,159 --> 00:39:08,559
have the stats of ghostwriter? Is this his debut or

930
00:39:08,599 --> 00:39:09,599
has he been one other one?

931
00:39:10,519 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: Let me fine on this.

932
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 2: And even before while you look at that like doctor Doom,

933
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:19,519
usually that's something like look at Marvel Alliance the ghostwriter. Okay,

934
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:23,920
so even then I'd still say that. Okay, So even

935
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,639
then before that, too, i'd say that's not like a

936
00:39:26,639 --> 00:39:29,000
deep cut but a deep cut for a roster game, right,

937
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,320
there's probably much more bigger characters that you could throw

938
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,880
the entire X Men on there before a ghost rider. Right,

939
00:39:35,159 --> 00:39:37,719
So when you had a ghost writer and then Doom Doom,

940
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,639
to me, showing a villain right away, that's unique because

941
00:39:40,679 --> 00:39:43,599
obviously they're not the same company, same game. But to me,

942
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,559
when you did the role from all Overall to Wliance three,

943
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,800
that's when they like they withheld those villains to the

944
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,800
very end. They didn't really talk about them being played

945
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,480
until like Magneto, Sure, but maybe has been good and bad.

946
00:39:53,519 --> 00:39:57,280
But it's like you got Loki and Thanos and yeah,

947
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,559
we're this opposite right first revealed. Now you got a

948
00:39:59,639 --> 00:40:01,840
villain here, which to me is for them telling you

949
00:40:02,119 --> 00:40:05,599
there's gonna be more. It would feel very silly for

950
00:40:05,639 --> 00:40:07,519
them to say doom and he'd be the only villain

951
00:40:07,599 --> 00:40:09,320
on there. That to me, something you do at the

952
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,400
very end then, right, like, hey we got one bad guys.

953
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,880
So that's where the vibes are completely off because it's

954
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,719
all different type of types. You got space characters, street characters,

955
00:40:18,159 --> 00:40:20,719
villains and then Avengers and then you don't have a

956
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,639
bunch of fighting characters and then you have some random

957
00:40:22,639 --> 00:40:25,480
picks because the rest of them cap as we said,

958
00:40:25,519 --> 00:40:29,079
like He's He's up there, caps Inspire Man, no surprise there,

959
00:40:29,079 --> 00:40:30,719
and I'm in nowaday. I put those in the no

960
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:36,360
surprise category. Storm to me that they're not a big surprise.

961
00:40:36,639 --> 00:40:39,400
The biggest surprises other than Doom and being a film

962
00:40:39,639 --> 00:40:42,719
was you could say, Miss Marvel. But at the same time,

963
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,559
like people love that character, maybe it's not the.

964
00:40:44,559 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 1: Most financially maybe more surprising.

965
00:40:47,119 --> 00:40:49,199
Speaker 2: I agree with you. I think he's probably the most surprising,

966
00:40:49,519 --> 00:40:51,599
even though it's tough because those Guardians movies got so

967
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,159
popped there, right, so I feel like they're not the

968
00:40:54,199 --> 00:40:56,800
Deadpool slot, but they feel like that sometimes where it's like, well,

969
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,480
we gotta get the Guardians there because people love the Guardians.

970
00:40:59,519 --> 00:41:03,159
So yeah, no, I'm I'm very curious what they're gonna do.

971
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,360
But I think this shows that one not like anybody's

972
00:41:06,519 --> 00:41:10,119
not off limits, and two there's not a specific vibe

973
00:41:10,159 --> 00:41:11,639
as of right now they're going with.

974
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I think the only one for me

975
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,199
that like, on a personal level, i'd be fine if

976
00:41:17,199 --> 00:41:19,840
they booted would be iron Man, just because I never

977
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,559
really like Iron Man in any video game. I just

978
00:41:22,559 --> 00:41:25,400
don't find it very fun character It's true. I mean,

979
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,840
I'll definitely I'll definitely try them out, check them out,

980
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,280
and obviously think like character wise, popularity wise, it makes

981
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:31,760
a lot of sense you got to put him in there.

982
00:41:32,159 --> 00:41:34,679
But even like someone like star Lord, who maybe move

983
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,719
set wise, I'm not like super inspired by Oh what

984
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,480
are all these moves gonna be? But I just think

985
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,360
it's cool that it's his debut in a fighting game,

986
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,000
So that's exciting for me anyway. And yeah, Miss Marvel,

987
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,079
I think is gonna be like a really fun move set.

988
00:41:45,079 --> 00:41:46,519
I think there's always a lot of potential there. And

989
00:41:46,559 --> 00:41:49,280
she has been super fun in Olden Nance three in

990
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,559
the Avengers game, Like, she just her move set works

991
00:41:52,599 --> 00:41:54,679
really well for video games, and so I think she'll

992
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,039
be really fun. And I like her art style that

993
00:41:56,039 --> 00:41:57,920
they've given her too. She's a good fit.

994
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,639
Speaker 2: Do you think it made this a transition? Some talk

995
00:42:00,679 --> 00:42:02,480
of the roster, But do you think her being in

996
00:42:02,519 --> 00:42:06,719
there destroys the chances of Reid being in there?

997
00:42:07,039 --> 00:42:09,599
Speaker 1: I think so. I think that too, especially because she's

998
00:42:09,639 --> 00:42:12,559
not like hard light Miss Marvel, like she is stretchy,

999
00:42:12,599 --> 00:42:15,840
big arms, flinging around Miss Marvel, So yeah, I think,

1000
00:42:16,199 --> 00:42:18,360
I I wonder because obviously dooms in here. Do you

1001
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,599
think like they maybe would want a counterpart, But I

1002
00:42:20,599 --> 00:42:22,639
don't know that four might be cooked on this roster.

1003
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,000
I don't know if they're gonna make it in there

1004
00:42:24,039 --> 00:42:25,719
at least that launch. Like maybe they do an F

1005
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,199
four DLC pack and they literally put all four of

1006
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,079
them like out together. That would be a cool, big moment,

1007
00:42:31,519 --> 00:42:32,840
But yeah, I don't I don't know if any of

1008
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,239
them are gonna make it in there. And obviously, as

1009
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,840
I talked about, like only thing in Human Torchu, I've

1010
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,400
had one appearance. Sue and Reid haven't had any. So

1011
00:42:39,639 --> 00:42:41,440
I don't know what it is about the Fantastic Four,

1012
00:42:41,519 --> 00:42:43,679
But they don't seem to inspire these developers in the

1013
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:44,800
in the fighting game sense.

1014
00:42:45,079 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 2: I think that's the tough read read. I don't understand

1015
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,960
the past because Miss Marvel wasn't around, right, Sue, I

1016
00:42:51,039 --> 00:42:53,719
understand because you have some other characters like Ajeen Gray

1017
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:58,000
or Yes Scar which are even storm as far as projectiles,

1018
00:42:58,039 --> 00:43:00,679
all like, I can see, like, okay, similar the thing,

1019
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:02,800
same thing I could see when especially in a lot

1020
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,440
of those older games, Venom was always a tanky character.

1021
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,320
He had Hulk, you had Juggernaut, so and then you

1022
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,679
started Adam Thanos. I could see why Thing never got

1023
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,400
the put in there. And that's where because you said

1024
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:17,280
it was human torch and was it uh, was just

1025
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,159
human Tortu that had been fighting or was Sue one

1026
00:43:19,159 --> 00:43:21,880
of the fighters and thing? Yeah, okay, so I could

1027
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,039
see why a thing to get the majority Sue suit.

1028
00:43:24,119 --> 00:43:26,519
But like humans, Torch makes sense because there's a bunch

1029
00:43:26,559 --> 00:43:31,039
of fire based characters, so I think, and I think

1030
00:43:31,079 --> 00:43:34,800
also just aesthetically, that's always a problem when it's That's

1031
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,599
the fun thing about the X Men is they are

1032
00:43:36,599 --> 00:43:39,079
a team, but they all got different looks, different colors.

1033
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,239
I think there is always something sorry, a little boring

1034
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:43,800
with the four right, where it's a bunch of different

1035
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,079
people and the four same costume. Right, It's tough because

1036
00:43:47,079 --> 00:43:48,719
I could say, well, doctor Dum's in there, you got

1037
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,519
to have them in there. But at the same point,

1038
00:43:50,519 --> 00:43:53,239
doctor Dum's been the villain to many characters, right, like

1039
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,000
even Ironman. That could be the main reason he's in

1040
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,280
there because he's been a main bad guy. So if

1041
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:01,199
anybody I would say, let's say those tanks aren't there. Like,

1042
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:02,880
I don't think Juggernaut will be in this game. I'll

1043
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,400
say that because I think that was more that was

1044
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,840
a weird nineties Yeah, so that's a weird nineties pick.

1045
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,280
So I'd say if there's a couple of tank characters missing,

1046
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,159
like him, like even a Juggernart or in Thantos, I

1047
00:44:13,199 --> 00:44:15,239
think the Thing could make it in. But it's the

1048
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,199
only f four. Actually no, I think Torch could as well,

1049
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,960
but if it is feeling kind of odd in today's

1050
00:44:21,039 --> 00:44:22,880
day and age where we don't do all four of them.

1051
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,239
But if I had my druthers, I would think that

1052
00:44:25,559 --> 00:44:29,119
the Thing and human Torch would again be the only

1053
00:44:29,159 --> 00:44:31,400
two to make it. But uh yeah, who knows.

1054
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, So when you were thinking about characters that you

1055
00:44:34,079 --> 00:44:35,400
want to add on here, I mean maybe you're just

1056
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,239
going off the cuff, But like the way I think

1057
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,199
about it, I when I think of a fighting game roster,

1058
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:40,760
I like to have some of the big boys, as

1059
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,719
you mentioned. Yeah, I like to have some villains in there,

1060
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,159
like more than just one doom. I like to have

1061
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,679
you know, you know, the fist fighters, the quick types,

1062
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,920
maybe the slower characters, maybe some magic characters and projectile characters.

1063
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:53,480
So I like to get a mix, and I think

1064
00:44:53,519 --> 00:44:55,159
that's what I'm gonna try and go for here is

1065
00:44:55,199 --> 00:44:57,480
with my with my ten personal picks, I'm gonna try

1066
00:44:57,519 --> 00:45:00,559
and hit some of these different categories. But yeah, do

1067
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,159
you do you have a strategy that you're going in

1068
00:45:02,159 --> 00:45:05,079
here with is just personal favorites on a story perspective people.

1069
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 2: Definitely not personal favorites, no, No, just just kind of

1070
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,280
a vibe. I kind of have a mix of like,

1071
00:45:09,679 --> 00:45:11,800
I think it's a five and five of like, yeah,

1072
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,960
this is the five kind of obvious and characters I like, right,

1073
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,800
and then five other ones that are just like, hey,

1074
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,280
I'd like to see what you could do here, and

1075
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,440
they're a bit more on the newer character side, so

1076
00:45:20,559 --> 00:45:22,559
like to give them some shine, and I think that's

1077
00:45:22,599 --> 00:45:25,239
the thing that can give games like that's one of

1078
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,960
the best things about all three of those Marvel Alliance

1079
00:45:28,039 --> 00:45:31,599
games was when they'd have a random character and they're like, oh, like,

1080
00:45:31,639 --> 00:45:33,400
that's that's an odd pick, but sure, Like to me

1081
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,079
back in the day, that was one of my first

1082
00:45:36,199 --> 00:45:38,719
or maybe my first exposure like Moonnight, and that was yeah,

1083
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,079
a very like he's not a super popular character. But

1084
00:45:41,119 --> 00:45:43,639
he's in there. So I look for those types as well,

1085
00:45:43,679 --> 00:45:45,079
and some characters that like if you would ask me

1086
00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:47,000
what I want them in there? No, but I think

1087
00:45:47,039 --> 00:45:48,880
you should put in because if you just do the

1088
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,440
same roster, because right now, great roster. But you know,

1089
00:45:52,599 --> 00:45:54,880
none of these characters were non in Marvel Alliance three.

1090
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:56,400
I know it's not the same thing, but I'm just saying,

1091
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,639
like games with big rosters or even then, i'd have

1092
00:45:58,679 --> 00:46:01,159
to look at the most I'd have to pull up

1093
00:46:01,159 --> 00:46:04,559
the most recent Marvel versus Capcom one and see where

1094
00:46:04,639 --> 00:46:08,679
all these characters. When was the gosh, what was the

1095
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:09,079
last one?

1096
00:46:09,079 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I have I have the list right here,

1097
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:12,639
so I can help you out with that if you want,

1098
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,119
of the carry a roster of people who are in

1099
00:46:15,119 --> 00:46:15,960
the most recent.

1100
00:46:16,559 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 2: All I want to know is everyone on the roster

1101
00:46:19,039 --> 00:46:20,800
so far? Were they in that game?

1102
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:26,599
Speaker 1: All right? So Spidey, Cap Iron Man, ghost Writer, uh

1103
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:28,039
were in there?

1104
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 2: Not Storm and Star Starlett's new right Yeah?

1105
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, Storm, Doom, Miss Marvel and Starlard were not.

1106
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, so that's good to me. That's more comparable

1107
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,280
to Marvel Allions. But I just like any game that

1108
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:48,280
has a roster of more than twelve characters. You want to, hey,

1109
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,000
how do we make ourselves different? You don't just want

1110
00:46:50,039 --> 00:46:52,800
to feel like, Okay, it's that game, but in this genre,

1111
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,719
you know. So that's a good thing with Start, so

1112
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,480
they're already doing that. So that's why I feel good

1113
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,880
on some of my picks that I feel they could

1114
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:00,840
do there. Some of them are a bit low key

1115
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:02,960
h and not lowkey in that sense, but in the

1116
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,400
sense that maybe they won't happen. But I really don't know,

1117
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,280
because I didn't the problems with the Dragon ball Z games.

1118
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,320
I don't know which picks would have been considered, like, oh,

1119
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,320
is that a is that a unique pick that's in there?

1120
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,000
Or did they just go with let's go to twenty

1121
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:14,920
four big boys?

1122
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,679
Speaker 1: You know? So yeah yeah. And then the other thing

1123
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,079
I was thinking about a little bit, but I can't

1124
00:47:20,079 --> 00:47:22,360
put too much talk into it, is like, once again,

1125
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,519
since this is like a four man tag team thing,

1126
00:47:25,159 --> 00:47:26,920
we then maybe have like a Marvel game, Like obviously

1127
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:28,880
in Ultimate Lines they'd give you like team bonuses if

1128
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:30,199
you put like four x men together. So I was

1129
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,320
trying to think about that, like it would be cool

1130
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,400
if you got four for me that could kind of

1131
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,719
fill each team. But then when you look at like, okay,

1132
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,920
Starlard's in here, but like, I don't know, are they

1133
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,159
really gonna put three other Guardians in the mix, Like

1134
00:47:41,199 --> 00:47:41,719
that thing.

1135
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 2: Wouldn't be cool though if you had the it would

1136
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:44,280
be great.

1137
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 1: But that's right, I don't know what should be in here, right,

1138
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,280
Like what it's kind of purble though, like, well, what's like,

1139
00:47:49,039 --> 00:47:50,920
did you just lumber with Avengers? Like what what do

1140
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:51,519
you would do for this?

1141
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:53,639
Speaker 2: You can lumber with Avengers or even if you had

1142
00:47:53,639 --> 00:47:55,679
a couple of those Young Avenger characters in there, right,

1143
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,760
Like I don't have the necessarily my list, but if

1144
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,880
you had, you got k that's one. You could just

1145
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:03,480
do the quick Speed and Wick and but I don't

1146
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:04,760
think you're gonna do that. I'm trying to think of other

1147
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,559
Young Avengers you could you could do.

1148
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,199
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess Spidy could could fit in the mix.

1149
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,760
Speaker 2: Maybe you could you could do Iron Ladd, which is

1150
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,199
Young Kang. We can spoil that because we're never gonna

1151
00:48:15,199 --> 00:48:17,119
get there in the MCU there sending that up, but

1152
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,719
there's one member on the Young Avengers called Iron Ladd,

1153
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,000
and later on it's revealed that he's actually a child

1154
00:48:23,039 --> 00:48:26,320
version of Kang. But we're not We're not doing that. Yeah,

1155
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:26,920
we're not doing that.

1156
00:48:27,119 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: I hope we get three other villains for a total,

1157
00:48:30,079 --> 00:48:33,039
like you have a full villain team X men. I'm

1158
00:48:33,079 --> 00:48:36,000
sure we'll get to four, Ghostwriter. I would love if

1159
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:37,719
we got like a Midnight Suns, like if we got

1160
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,039
at least I think that's in that in that freaky

1161
00:48:40,079 --> 00:48:42,719
realm of characters, So I think like we're not far

1162
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,920
off of that. But I do feel like Guardians feels

1163
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,840
like maybe the one that's like a bit of a stretch.

1164
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,639
I don't know if we're if we're keeping it to

1165
00:48:49,679 --> 00:48:51,199
a small roster, like I don't know if they have

1166
00:48:51,199 --> 00:48:52,440
that at launch, you know, I don't know if they

1167
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,719
get three other in there at launch, like who, because

1168
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,880
you you'd probably do Groot and Rocket. That seems to

1169
00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,480
be like like as a combo pack. That seems to

1170
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:00,559
be a pretty thing to do.

1171
00:49:00,639 --> 00:49:02,760
Speaker 2: We're not because then you say Rocket was in that

1172
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:04,320
fighting game by himself, though.

1173
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is weird. It is a mix, like even

1174
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,400
in Marvel Rivals right now, like they're separate characters, but

1175
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,840
they've like team up tax together. Yeah, and then ultimately

1176
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,639
it's three Rocket and Groots one character. But yeah, Rocket's

1177
00:49:14,639 --> 00:49:17,559
been in previous games, even in Cosmic Invasion rockets in there,

1178
00:49:17,559 --> 00:49:19,400
but Groot isn't, so they don't always do it. I

1179
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,119
just think it's a good cheating way to get a

1180
00:49:21,199 --> 00:49:23,199
two in one, and that is makes for a pretty

1181
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,280
unique fighting game character too, right, I think about like

1182
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,039
ice climbers like Rosalina and Smash Bros. Like I think

1183
00:49:28,039 --> 00:49:30,079
it makes for a different archetype as well if you

1184
00:49:30,119 --> 00:49:32,239
have like a bit of a combo character that could

1185
00:49:32,519 --> 00:49:36,639
work in those ways. So's there's potential. And Gomora would

1186
00:49:36,639 --> 00:49:39,800
be super fun. Yeah, and I think Drax would be

1187
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,239
cool or like I don't even if you chuck like

1188
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,199
Adam Warlock in there, you know, I think there I

1189
00:49:44,199 --> 00:49:46,159
think there could be some even like Cosmo would be

1190
00:49:46,159 --> 00:49:49,039
a really fun like off the Wall pick right, Yeah.

1191
00:49:48,679 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would just depend if they would want to

1192
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,360
spread the spread the seed sort say, because if you

1193
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,880
want that, these are things just Starlark, Gomora and Rocket

1194
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,280
and Groot are separate, right because they do a very

1195
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:03,480
different place to Also, I I it's tough because you

1196
00:50:03,519 --> 00:50:05,239
say that, and that's the thing where it's like you say,

1197
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,760
because there we told there are being four teams, like

1198
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:09,280
four players on a team, and you want a lot

1199
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,280
of characters. Now that I'm still gonna stick with it,

1200
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,119
but that almost makes me think, how could you not

1201
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,039
include Fantastic four and even Guardians like those people that

1202
00:50:17,079 --> 00:50:17,920
have core teams.

1203
00:50:18,039 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 1: That would be so cool to have a Fantastic four team.

1204
00:50:20,519 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, because this is actually the time, because there'd be

1205
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,199
times where we go, like I just said, same asthetics

1206
00:50:24,199 --> 00:50:26,800
smer powers, were we go, Okay, why I don't know

1207
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,119
if everyone plays the f four, But now that they're

1208
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:31,880
with the four, I didn't even think about that. So

1209
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,039
I think if they got star lored in there, I do.

1210
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,639
I'll say at least one other Guardian I think is

1211
00:50:37,679 --> 00:50:40,880
gonna be on there. I don't know which one. Like

1212
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:42,280
I said, if I had my brother, same thing, I

1213
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,079
would say, at least do four of them, That's what

1214
00:50:44,159 --> 00:50:47,840
i'd I would like if each team had Avengers, you

1215
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:49,599
at least got four X men. I think you're gonna

1216
00:50:49,599 --> 00:50:51,199
get eight. That could be a lot, but I just

1217
00:50:51,199 --> 00:50:52,800
feel like or at least six, so you have like

1218
00:50:53,119 --> 00:50:55,679
multiple switch ups of teams. So if you could have

1219
00:50:55,719 --> 00:51:00,000
every character, same thing, Midnight Suns. That's an easy four. Yeah,

1220
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:04,119
ghost Rider and play doctor Strange, Moonnight, mister Knight you

1221
00:51:04,119 --> 00:51:07,480
know to I think it's fun Moonnight and all the personalities.

1222
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:08,039
That'd be great.

1223
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be cool. I think it would be

1224
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,760
like it would be cool Rocket, even if Rocket, yeah,

1225
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:15,440
which was on his own, because I think that's another

1226
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,760
fighting game thing. It's fun to have really small characters

1227
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:19,760
and really big characters. Think about like Iron Giant and

1228
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:24,199
Multiverses are in in what's it called a Guilty Year Strive,

1229
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,159
they have a character that's literally just like an entire

1230
00:51:26,199 --> 00:51:29,800
fucking tank. He is huge, a massive character, probably the

1231
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,480
biggest fighting game character I've ever seen before, and like

1232
00:51:32,559 --> 00:51:34,159
it works and he fits in the game really well.

1233
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,159
So I think it would be fun to get like, yeah,

1234
00:51:36,159 --> 00:51:37,920
a mix of characters, even like I think a smash

1235
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,639
out there's like, you know, you have your like little

1236
00:51:39,639 --> 00:51:41,480
tiny Pea chews and all La Mars on the screen

1237
00:51:41,559 --> 00:51:43,920
right up upgates like Bowser and King d D like

1238
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,360
huge characters. So I think it's fun of like characters

1239
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:49,400
size disparency too. I think that's a fun thing to

1240
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,199
have it in fighting games like this. But we will

1241
00:51:51,199 --> 00:51:53,519
see The way we are gonna do this is we

1242
00:51:53,559 --> 00:51:56,760
are each gonna pick pen individually. We're gonna go back

1243
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,400
and forth on those, and then we're gonna add four more.

1244
00:51:59,639 --> 00:52:01,840
Collect My idea there is that we both get our

1245
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,280
ten personal ones and then we can, like with those four,

1246
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,679
we can kind of hash it out and like, Okay,

1247
00:52:06,679 --> 00:52:08,280
what are the mistakes we made? Is there any obvious

1248
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,039
when we missed? Is there like a team that we

1249
00:52:10,079 --> 00:52:12,159
want to fill out the four on? How can we

1250
00:52:12,199 --> 00:52:14,280
fill out these last four with like a nice kind

1251
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:15,920
of working together on it. It's a little bit different

1252
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,920
than the way we normally do these rosters. I think

1253
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,559
it's a fun way to go about it. So Travis,

1254
00:52:20,599 --> 00:52:22,119
take it away, Who do you want to get on

1255
00:52:22,159 --> 00:52:22,679
this roster?

1256
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,519
Speaker 2: First? Well, we just talked about them. They're on there

1257
00:52:25,519 --> 00:52:27,639
before he showed me the trailer. But yeah, I'm gonna

1258
00:52:27,639 --> 00:52:30,599
put Surfer in there. I'm trying to get some different

1259
00:52:30,679 --> 00:52:33,039
characters in there. I think there'd be a fun pick

1260
00:52:33,119 --> 00:52:37,159
there that'd be someone too. If you did add F

1261
00:52:37,159 --> 00:52:39,480
four member, you could do some sort of cheat where

1262
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,920
it's like Doom the F four member Surfer and then

1263
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,519
someone else from that universe. Right, So, it's like not

1264
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,920
F four but F four adjacent. So uh and yeah

1265
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:52,039
you said they were only what in one or zero games?

1266
00:52:52,079 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 1: Surfer or two Surfer has never appeared, So.

1267
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,639
Speaker 2: We got star Lord's Surfer. I think is do I

1268
00:52:58,679 --> 00:53:00,880
think just the mechanics of being on the board all time, Like,

1269
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,800
to me, that's a character we just talked about, like

1270
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:05,719
the Venom type of style as far as a fan base,

1271
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,760
absolutely shocking. Could be the most shocking person that's never

1272
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,519
been a fighting game, because I just think aesthetically powers

1273
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:13,880
you could do every like everything that you could do

1274
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,039
with like Bobby Drake and the X Men games, you

1275
00:53:16,079 --> 00:53:18,840
could have done with silver surfers. So yeah, go with Surfer.

1276
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,039
Don't really care which one if it's Norm Rad or

1277
00:53:21,039 --> 00:53:23,880
shall Ball like cool doesn't matter to me. Like it's

1278
00:53:24,199 --> 00:53:27,000
get a person in silver on a board. I'm cool

1279
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,320
with it, you know. So that that'd be my draft

1280
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:29,960
pick number one.

1281
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:33,559
Speaker 1: There, that's a great pick. I'll follow it up with

1282
00:53:33,559 --> 00:53:36,760
a character who has a very similar color palette, another

1283
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:38,840
character who has never appeared in a fighting game. I'm

1284
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,639
gonna get moon Night on the list here because moon

1285
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,719
Night got the cool ass weapons, got the kool as vibe.

1286
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:46,440
I think we can get some fun costumes in there,

1287
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,239
and I mean think about ultimatlyans three, and I think

1288
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:53,119
he's also in number one, right, ultimatelyights one character.

1289
00:53:53,199 --> 00:53:57,119
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, I think well I think they maybe I.

1290
00:53:57,119 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: Don't remember him at two. I don't remember him too,

1291
00:53:59,000 --> 00:53:59,960
he's at least in one.

1292
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 2: I think you're right.

1293
00:54:01,079 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and yeah, always has a super fun move set.

1294
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,719
He's got like good movement abilities. Is like with the

1295
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:10,320
with the crescent moons, like throwing those as projectiles or

1296
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:13,440
just like the different melee weapons that he's got, super fun,

1297
00:54:13,519 --> 00:54:15,840
unique character and like crazy that it hasn't been in

1298
00:54:16,119 --> 00:54:18,679
a fighting game before. And you know, maybe we can

1299
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,320
get to a nice four Midnight Suns types of characters.

1300
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,639
And so now we got Ghostwriter, got moon Night. We'll

1301
00:54:23,639 --> 00:54:25,360
see if we get two more on there. But yeah,

1302
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,920
moon Night for me, easy first pick. I had three

1303
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,519
kind of like slam dunks that I'm absolutely getting on

1304
00:54:30,519 --> 00:54:32,639
this list, and Moon Night was one of them, So

1305
00:54:32,679 --> 00:54:33,440
shout out to him.

1306
00:54:34,079 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm gonna keep with going weird. This is

1307
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,960
where I talked about in that situation where characters that

1308
00:54:39,039 --> 00:54:41,639
I don't love but you know, want to see some

1309
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:43,960
love given to him. All say no, I don't know when,

1310
00:54:44,039 --> 00:54:45,960
but they were in Marvel Rivals in the past. I'd

1311
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,440
say six months. I think newer. Maybe I'm wrong. I

1312
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:52,039
don't Fall Rivals, but uh, get scroll girl in there.

1313
00:54:52,119 --> 00:54:55,840
She keeps getting a fan base. She like people like her.

1314
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,639
That character's building. I don't know if you're ever really

1315
00:54:58,639 --> 00:55:01,599
gonna see that character in the MC or where. I

1316
00:55:01,639 --> 00:55:03,719
think that'd be a perfect Disney Plus show. That's like

1317
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,639
a this is nothing new with that. It's just a comedy.

1318
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:07,719
But I think there's some fun things you could do,

1319
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,719
like she has the power to talk to squirrels and everything. Right,

1320
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:11,639
So I'm trying to go for it now. I don't

1321
00:55:11,679 --> 00:55:14,800
know if necessarily that sells the game. But also I've

1322
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:16,920
talked about We've talked many times. Don't just want to

1323
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,639
pier Sausage Fest. So the same thing. If you're like, Okay,

1324
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,159
who can we do? What's a female? We can bring

1325
00:55:22,199 --> 00:55:24,960
a board? But what's something a bit new? Because most

1326
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:26,639
of the X men that you're gonna jump to have

1327
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,599
already been done before. And same thing. There's a couple others,

1328
00:55:29,599 --> 00:55:31,920
like I guess Captain Marvel or like Miss Marley Gone there,

1329
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:33,800
but same thing they might say, oh, we already got

1330
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:35,760
a Marvel. So there's just something where I feel like

1331
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,920
she's kind of building momentum in these type of circles.

1332
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,639
And it's one of these picks that I could see

1333
00:55:41,639 --> 00:55:44,519
being like a Smash low key character where everyone has

1334
00:55:44,519 --> 00:55:47,920
a character Little Mac my main. I don't care about

1335
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,920
Little Mac at all in any other context, I don't

1336
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,880
care about punch Out, but in Smash, that's my guy.

1337
00:55:54,079 --> 00:55:55,480
So the same thing as squirrel Girl could be the

1338
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,199
same thing where it's like, I don't care about squirrel Girl,

1339
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:58,639
that's not my person, but when you play as it,

1340
00:55:58,679 --> 00:56:01,760
it's like that that's my tokens. I'm going with going

1341
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:02,440
with squirrel Girl.

1342
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,519
Speaker 1: That's a great pick, and I honestly think it's pretty

1343
00:56:05,559 --> 00:56:08,320
likely just if you look at the roster for Guilty

1344
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:11,719
Gear Strive, the kind of crazy character designs they have

1345
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,000
in that game. Like I think about the character May,

1346
00:56:14,039 --> 00:56:16,079
who's like this little girl with a big orange hoodie

1347
00:56:16,119 --> 00:56:18,920
and like uses an anchor as a attack. There's one

1348
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,920
character who's like has a guitar almost like you know,

1349
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,719
Higgs and Destranning two or something like that. Just crazy stuff.

1350
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:26,679
Like that, and I feel like squirrel Girl the Big

1351
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:29,559
Tail using that for big attacks, throwing out squirrels, having

1352
00:56:29,599 --> 00:56:31,239
them like burrow in the ground and get like oh

1353
00:56:31,519 --> 00:56:32,599
eared attacks.

1354
00:56:32,159 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 2: Like that limitless huge potential.

1355
00:56:34,079 --> 00:56:36,559
Speaker 1: So yeah, so far you are picking characters that I've

1356
00:56:36,599 --> 00:56:38,639
bowlded on my list, like character as I also wanted

1357
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:40,800
on there. So cool, you're making me happy so far.

1358
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:43,039
I'll pick one that I think will make you happy

1359
00:56:43,079 --> 00:56:46,199
and many people. I'm gonna get Scarlet Witch on here.

1360
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:49,400
She has never appeared in a fighting game. I gotta

1361
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,400
have a weird magic freaking there. I might get another

1362
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:52,760
one or two because I just love that kind of

1363
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,440
archetype and I think there's so much potential with that

1364
00:56:55,519 --> 00:56:58,480
kind of move set, you know, good melee combat, good

1365
00:56:58,559 --> 00:57:01,679
like defense kind of moves, good like range sort of attacks. Obviously,

1366
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,800
she's an extremely popular character right now. I think I

1367
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,519
don't know how this Foreman tag team system's gonna work

1368
00:57:07,519 --> 00:57:09,000
in this game, but I think if there's like some

1369
00:57:09,199 --> 00:57:11,960
element where they're like support or assist type characters as well,

1370
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,280
I think she also fits in that kind of context

1371
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,159
of like, you know how like Marble Chomedy, you can

1372
00:57:16,199 --> 00:57:18,400
like someone the the cameos in to like do a

1373
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,400
single attack, Like, I feel like she could fit in

1374
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,440
that kind of realm too, and I just want I

1375
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:24,320
feel like you could get really freaky with it too,

1376
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,599
do some weird like horror type moves with her doing

1377
00:57:26,639 --> 00:57:29,639
some crazy Wanda stuff. So yeah, I mean, obviously she's

1378
00:57:30,039 --> 00:57:31,760
she's so hot right now, we need to get her

1379
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,440
in there. And yeah, it's crazy that she's never been

1380
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,519
in there before, so the time is right.

1381
00:57:38,119 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I agree. I think it's one of those

1382
00:57:40,559 --> 00:57:43,360
characters that has built tons of momentum. I think it

1383
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:45,760
kind of makes sense in the odds why she wasn't

1384
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:47,880
really around and even in the nineties that was like

1385
00:57:48,119 --> 00:57:50,440
she was around, but she wasn't a big part of

1386
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,039
that boom. Like we talked about that when we did

1387
00:57:52,079 --> 00:57:54,480
the X Men Ratcher. Right, like her and Pietr just

1388
00:57:54,519 --> 00:57:56,639
like appear in an image. They're not even a big thing.

1389
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,599
Speaker 1: So I think now, I think your popularity is like

1390
00:57:59,679 --> 00:58:02,360
peak now or like was with Multiverse. Would you agree

1391
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:02,559
with that.

1392
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 2: I think it's on the downturn now. I think I

1393
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,039
don't think the game would miss this, but I think

1394
00:58:08,039 --> 00:58:10,800
it peaked with WandaVision. I think that was the peak

1395
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,800
that multiverse I think was kind of like the peak

1396
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:15,440
and then kind of riding that out a little bit.

1397
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,119
But I do think on the MZU side they waited

1398
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,039
too long and the word is also just wanted to break,

1399
00:58:21,039 --> 00:58:22,960
but I think they script there. But in a video game,

1400
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,000
I think when you're a huge roster, you don't have

1401
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:26,920
to worry about that. So I think in this sense

1402
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,440
of getting her own games, absolutely like she was in

1403
00:58:29,679 --> 00:58:33,079
uh god, what's the game? We love Why at Midnight

1404
00:58:33,159 --> 00:58:35,639
suns like, and she had a big role in that, right,

1405
00:58:35,719 --> 00:58:38,280
So I feel I feel a lot of people enjoy

1406
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,559
that character now that maybe didn't in the past.

1407
00:58:40,639 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, for sure.

1408
00:58:43,519 --> 00:58:45,079
Speaker 2: Okay, So I don't know how we're doing this for

1409
00:58:45,199 --> 00:58:47,039
villains wise, because I heard you say maybe before that

1410
00:58:47,039 --> 00:58:49,239
could be the case. But you know, for me, go

1411
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:52,239
on the villain route. Okay, I'm going to the villain route,

1412
00:58:52,239 --> 00:58:54,519
going that I didn't hear on a list at all.

1413
00:58:54,559 --> 00:58:57,440
If I did, then I apologize I missed it. Obviously

1414
00:58:57,679 --> 00:59:02,039
their foe has or this person's foe has been in

1415
00:59:02,079 --> 00:59:03,519
the game many times. But I don't want to go

1416
00:59:03,559 --> 00:59:04,760
that route. I want to go to the obvious route.

1417
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:06,760
Coming I just have a Surfer. I don't want to

1418
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:08,719
put Venom in there. I want to go Storm and Norman.

1419
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,000
I want green Goblin. Now here's okay.

1420
00:59:11,199 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 1: You you trip me up the circles you were taking there,

1421
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,000
but I love where you landed.

1422
00:59:16,239 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 2: No, Like I feel like the natural thing is just okay,

1423
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,360
yeah Venom right. But here's the thing, this is the

1424
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:23,880
dream roster. I do not think they would put Surfer

1425
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:25,920
and Goblet in the same game because of the board

1426
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:29,280
and glider aesthetic. But I'm just the good thing is

1427
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,519
about Goblin, Like he's not always on the board. That's

1428
00:59:31,559 --> 00:59:34,039
a quick like sneak attack or like in Mortal Kombat,

1429
00:59:34,039 --> 00:59:36,000
you know you always have the conboy you go back

1430
00:59:36,039 --> 00:59:38,239
and something that, Like like I was scorpiing how he

1431
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:40,599
goes through the fire and then comes up the other side. Like,

1432
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,000
to me, that's what the glider is. It's not like

1433
00:59:43,039 --> 00:59:45,840
the surfboard where he's on it constantly. It is a

1434
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,440
attack move, it's a transitional move, it's a special move

1435
00:59:48,559 --> 00:59:51,079
something like that. Like if this game has finishers, wouldn't

1436
00:59:51,079 --> 00:59:52,880
that be so cool? If the glider comes he jumps

1437
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,199
on then like like that's what I want, And that's

1438
00:59:55,239 --> 00:59:57,239
because like, yeah, Venom is very cool, but to me

1439
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:01,239
it's there's the same thing. I would rather they're not

1440
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:02,760
on my list, but i'd rather say, hey, if you

1441
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,000
could have the thing, the Fantastic four, but we got

1442
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:06,760
too many heavies, I'd say, you know, I looked at

1443
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,000
him backseat a little bit. I feel like Green Goblin.

1444
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:11,119
He's maybe not the peak, but he got back to

1445
01:00:11,159 --> 01:00:12,960
the peak of no way home. I feel like he's

1446
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:14,840
never gone to do And I feel like most people

1447
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:18,280
now in our generation of age, because it's funny they've

1448
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:21,159
gone through kind of eras of like Goblin or doc

1449
01:00:21,159 --> 01:00:23,119
Owk or Venom. I would say most people now if

1450
01:00:23,119 --> 01:00:25,880
you say, hey, name Sperman's grayst Foe is Green Goblin

1451
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,199
as far as the past since Dafoe went on right,

1452
01:00:28,239 --> 01:00:30,920
because he's been so much content, So I would say,

1453
01:00:31,039 --> 01:00:33,639
give Gobby a chance even if you want, Hey, if

1454
01:00:33,679 --> 01:00:36,360
there's Skins and we get a Hobgoblin one, great, sign

1455
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:38,559
me up. You know that'd be fantastic. But yeah, that's

1456
01:00:38,559 --> 01:00:41,960
my pitching as Goblin. I want that villain. I want

1457
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,159
some again, trying to do some new blood here.

1458
01:00:44,239 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, that's oh that almost inspires me to

1459
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,239
make this other pick, but I might maybe hold off

1460
01:00:51,239 --> 01:00:55,880
forbit and just see where things go. Okay, let me

1461
01:00:56,079 --> 01:00:59,079
knock out my third slam Dunk pick and then I

1462
01:00:59,119 --> 01:01:01,559
can maybe get into some more freaky things after. But

1463
01:01:01,679 --> 01:01:03,880
once again, a character who has never appeared before. We've

1464
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,159
talked about him a lot already, but I am putting

1465
01:01:06,199 --> 01:01:07,840
Blade in in this roster.

1466
01:01:08,199 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. Blade, Yeah, yeah.

1467
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 1: Blade is another character that every video game he's in

1468
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:15,760
mostly Oultimate Alliance one and three. You know, being in

1469
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:19,519
there always super fun. I think there's Yeah, he's a

1470
01:01:19,599 --> 01:01:21,360
very movement based character. I think they just added him

1471
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:23,480
in too, Marvel Rivals as well, and you know, hopefully

1472
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:25,079
we get that movie at some point. I feel like

1473
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,760
maybe we could hit a Blade peak. Obviously people loved

1474
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:31,360
him appearing in Deadpool Wolverine, but obviously you gotta have

1475
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,000
a character or two or three with a Sword. It's

1476
01:01:34,079 --> 01:01:36,440
just a classic. You gotta have him in there. He's

1477
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,480
got guns, he's got grenades and smoke bombs and weird

1478
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:42,679
stuff in there too, and just weird vamp vampiric attacks

1479
01:01:42,679 --> 01:01:45,079
as well. And obviously I'm I'm all in on the

1480
01:01:45,079 --> 01:01:47,280
Midnight So so for my roster could all fit on

1481
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:49,400
a Midnight Sun's team, So that just kind of shows

1482
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:51,119
the kind of realm I really want to see in

1483
01:01:51,199 --> 01:01:53,519
a game like this. But yeah, I think Blade is

1484
01:01:53,559 --> 01:01:56,480
a super fun character, great personality. I'd love to see

1485
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:58,400
the costumes they put in there for him as well.

1486
01:01:59,119 --> 01:02:01,159
So definitely putting my boy in there.

1487
01:02:01,559 --> 01:02:04,079
Speaker 2: M okay, So I'm going this or where it's a

1488
01:02:04,159 --> 01:02:07,800
little bit different. This is somebody I can't recall on

1489
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:09,360
the list. If it was it with somebody smaller, but

1490
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:11,960
I think they might have not been. I'm a big

1491
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:15,679
fan of character, love this character as a child, love

1492
01:02:15,719 --> 01:02:17,519
reading them in Colm books. But he's had he's had

1493
01:02:17,559 --> 01:02:20,679
a raw deal the past. I'd say decade, get iron

1494
01:02:20,719 --> 01:02:23,639
Fist in there. Danny ran because was he on any

1495
01:02:23,719 --> 01:02:25,800
list or would he like one appearance somewhere?

1496
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:28,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was. Let me grab the number for you.

1497
01:02:28,719 --> 01:02:30,639
Speaker 2: To me, that's the best combo of that is a

1498
01:02:30,719 --> 01:02:33,239
we talked about. There's only many just like fighting people.

1499
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:35,559
He is like a Moonnight sort of type where's okay

1500
01:02:35,559 --> 01:02:37,599
he can fight and in cap where he can fight brawl,

1501
01:02:37,679 --> 01:02:39,840
But there's gonna be some magic, there's gonna be some

1502
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:43,000
specialties to it. There's gonna be some other worldly stuff.

1503
01:02:43,239 --> 01:02:45,559
And I just think with the aesthetic they got going

1504
01:02:45,599 --> 01:02:48,119
with Token right now, like the Iron Fist yellow and

1505
01:02:48,159 --> 01:02:51,280
green in his outfit, I can see it, like I

1506
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:54,119
can see it clear as day. Whatever redesign they're gonna

1507
01:02:54,159 --> 01:02:55,920
give him, I think it's kind of funny because I

1508
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,079
didn't play, but obviously I feel like meme WHI is

1509
01:02:58,079 --> 01:03:00,320
he kind of popped off with rivals of being what

1510
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:02,559
was like an incredible op character for a while. Was

1511
01:03:02,559 --> 01:03:03,559
that the situation?

1512
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't remember, but yeah, he's definitely in

1513
01:03:05,519 --> 01:03:06,719
there and has a pretty unique look.

1514
01:03:06,719 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 2: I would say, yeah, I think that was the thing

1515
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:11,239
that I guess people are mad it's in the place

1516
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,599
style because if Iron Fist would just pop off. But yeah,

1517
01:03:13,639 --> 01:03:16,480
I just think I again trying to give a shine

1518
01:03:16,519 --> 01:03:19,840
to a character that's not been around too much. But hey, Marvel,

1519
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:21,639
you know he's an eyes of a con or she

1520
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:24,440
they're doing a female version, but still like they I

1521
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:27,920
want that. I want that ip that character be kind

1522
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:29,920
of be rehabbed a little bit, and I think may

1523
01:03:30,079 --> 01:03:32,320
Riles helped because it made Iron Fist cool again. So

1524
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:35,039
let's continue that trend. Let's given token and just have

1525
01:03:35,159 --> 01:03:37,880
him be a bad ass. So that's my that's my

1526
01:03:38,079 --> 01:03:39,599
Uh yeah, I think fourth pick there.

1527
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:42,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, great, great pick for me. I was like, I

1528
01:03:43,199 --> 01:03:45,400
need iron Fist or shunk She on this list, one

1529
01:03:45,519 --> 01:03:47,400
or the other, and I think just one of them

1530
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:49,199
is fine because they would maybe have a similar type

1531
01:03:49,239 --> 01:03:51,280
move set, but I don't know if they ever do

1532
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:54,519
like clone or echo type characters, like with costumes or

1533
01:03:54,559 --> 01:03:56,000
something like a war machine for an iron man. I

1534
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:58,360
would love to see Shrunk She could get his time

1535
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:00,239
in this Sun too, because he's never been in a game.

1536
01:04:00,599 --> 01:04:03,239
Ironfis has only been one. He was in NVC three

1537
01:04:03,639 --> 01:04:05,880
in twenty eleven, so he's been he's been in there

1538
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:08,079
once before. But it's like, that's crazy that he's only

1539
01:04:08,079 --> 01:04:09,320
been in there once. I feel like that's one of

1540
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,559
the first characters you would think of. So yeah, really

1541
01:04:11,599 --> 01:04:13,960
really great pick. He was definitely high up on my

1542
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:18,440
my list as well. Let's take our last ad break

1543
01:04:18,559 --> 01:04:21,159
before we get into finishing.

1544
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 2: Up this list.

1545
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:27,679
Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Okay, we are back. Let's see

1546
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:32,000
where do I want to go next. Uh, I'm gonna

1547
01:04:32,039 --> 01:04:35,199
go with I'm gonna go with Black Panther. I'm gonna

1548
01:04:35,199 --> 01:04:36,679
put him on the list here. Another character that is

1549
01:04:36,719 --> 01:04:40,519
shocking has only appeared once before Crazy. Another character that

1550
01:04:40,559 --> 01:04:44,280
once again I love in every other game Rvel's Avengers

1551
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:45,000
Ultimately three.

1552
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:46,719
Speaker 2: He was my number one favorite freak.

1553
01:04:46,679 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 1: In that game, and that move set with like that

1554
01:04:48,519 --> 01:04:51,840
spinning upward attack all the column was Obviously he's super fast,

1555
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:54,039
so it's funny. He is kind of similar to Iron

1556
01:04:54,079 --> 01:04:55,639
Fist a little bit, and I feel like in terms

1557
01:04:55,639 --> 01:04:58,679
of the super close range really rapid attacks, probably has

1558
01:04:58,719 --> 01:05:00,360
like a little bit of energy stuff, like a little

1559
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:01,880
bit of range in there. I could see him like

1560
01:05:02,039 --> 01:05:04,760
with that armor thing like kind of tanking certain shots

1561
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:06,719
and like parrying out them and like getting some cool

1562
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:10,119
like energy boost damage attacks like that as well. Obviously

1563
01:05:10,159 --> 01:05:12,280
all the different tech and things like that. So I

1564
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:14,079
think this will be a super fun character. I mean,

1565
01:05:14,119 --> 01:05:17,079
he just has the agility for a fighting game that'll

1566
01:05:17,079 --> 01:05:19,599
be like really really engaging. And I think with this,

1567
01:05:20,159 --> 01:05:21,840
like so far, one of the most surprising things for

1568
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:24,480
me about Tokwon and like this sometimes we've seen it.

1569
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:26,760
We still have only seen one map, just New York,

1570
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:28,360
and it has like a couple of variations you go

1571
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:30,599
to like different streets or whatever. We haven't seen other

1572
01:05:30,639 --> 01:05:33,320
locations yet, and you gotta have Wakanda in there. That

1573
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:35,519
would be like just such a fun location, so much

1574
01:05:35,599 --> 01:05:37,519
fun you could do there, going to like different zones,

1575
01:05:37,559 --> 01:05:40,400
go to like the the mine with like the unobtaining

1576
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:44,239
whatever the heck it's called going out the Vibranium Master.

1577
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:48,079
That's Avatar, no City streets whatever. It is like the

1578
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:53,159
showdown section where they do the fights for the throne.

1579
01:05:53,519 --> 01:05:56,039
So a lot of potential there, and Black Panther's a

1580
01:05:56,079 --> 01:05:57,800
good way to get into that kind of realm. So

1581
01:05:57,880 --> 01:05:58,920
I definitely want to see.

1582
01:05:58,719 --> 01:06:01,159
Speaker 2: That Black Panther. To me, that's like Blaye where it's

1583
01:06:01,199 --> 01:06:03,320
like how do they play? More so because of his

1584
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:05,639
movies in the nineties, but Black Panthers, this is kind

1585
01:06:05,639 --> 01:06:09,320
of crazy, just like aesthetically and fighting stide, like you

1586
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:11,239
just think you'd put them in there, but I get it.

1587
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:14,119
They went for a lot of very popular characters and everything.

1588
01:06:14,239 --> 01:06:16,920
So yeah, Okay, I think this might be my last

1589
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:18,679
one that's kind of a bit more off the wall

1590
01:06:18,719 --> 01:06:20,840
because there's a couple ones that just are near and

1591
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:22,039
dear to the heart that I gotta get in there.

1592
01:06:22,119 --> 01:06:24,800
Unless you get them in there, but I'm throwing a

1593
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:25,320
man thing.

1594
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:29,639
Speaker 1: I I love that pic. I didn't even think about

1595
01:06:29,679 --> 01:06:30,119
him at all.

1596
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't hear because I was trying to think

1597
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:34,360
more Midnight Suns. That's someone you could kind of cycle

1598
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:36,679
there as well. Another tank where again, like I'm saying, like,

1599
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:39,760
let's let's let you know, juggernuts gone, let's binge to

1600
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:43,360
them them. I think esthetically same thing the green just

1601
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:46,119
kind of the tentacles of plants and stuff. That'd be

1602
01:06:46,159 --> 01:06:48,920
something funny, and I think there'd be something very unique

1603
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:51,679
that's a character that would play like no other because

1604
01:06:51,679 --> 01:06:54,760
there's not gonna be anything other big tanky guys that

1605
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:57,400
also have these kind of weird I think the closest

1606
01:06:57,400 --> 01:06:59,119
would have been Omega Red, but he's not on my

1607
01:06:59,159 --> 01:07:01,599
list because as much as I love Omega Red, I

1608
01:07:01,639 --> 01:07:05,000
just don't think that's feasibly possible. If if this really

1609
01:07:05,519 --> 01:07:06,079
I feel.

1610
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 1: Like this is this could be an opportunity.

1611
01:07:08,079 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 2: Maybe. I think if it was X Men Token Fighting Souls,

1612
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:13,199
then sure. But because it's Marvel, I think Marvel is

1613
01:07:13,239 --> 01:07:16,800
so many new like Guardians and squirrel Girl, like I

1614
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:19,119
think that's thing, Like there's so many people that I

1615
01:07:19,159 --> 01:07:20,440
would love it. But I think there's many people that

1616
01:07:20,519 --> 01:07:23,119
see Omega reg A like I don't know that not

1617
01:07:23,159 --> 01:07:25,079
even a fun way. But man Thing, I think there's

1618
01:07:25,119 --> 01:07:28,159
something because aesthetically it is just it would be very

1619
01:07:28,159 --> 01:07:30,239
cool and again make a debut in the fighting game there.

1620
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:33,599
I think that could be a very unique character if

1621
01:07:33,639 --> 01:07:36,159
played right. And that's where he to me is in

1622
01:07:36,199 --> 01:07:39,239
that sense of I guess they had those like black

1623
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:41,559
Heart and Omega Red. Not Omega Red, I guess because

1624
01:07:41,559 --> 01:07:43,039
he was in the nineties X Men, but like black

1625
01:07:43,079 --> 01:07:45,440
Heart where it's like really like or who's the other

1626
01:07:45,519 --> 01:07:47,480
one that was with the Eye and the Monster we

1627
01:07:47,519 --> 01:07:50,480
talked about. Yeah, that's when I'm like, this is in

1628
01:07:50,519 --> 01:07:53,119
a fighting game. He's taken that slot for me. So yeah,

1629
01:07:53,239 --> 01:07:54,920
man Thing, my my next draft E.

1630
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:58,559
Speaker 1: That's a that's a great pick. I yeah, because I

1631
01:07:58,639 --> 01:08:01,000
was like, it's funny. I my list out into like

1632
01:08:01,639 --> 01:08:04,119
you know those slam dunk picks that I talked about, Yeah,

1633
01:08:04,159 --> 01:08:06,400
I have like villains, I have the big boys, and yeah,

1634
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:07,760
I just in the big book. I didn't even think

1635
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:09,280
about man Thing, just because I kind of put down

1636
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:10,760
the ones that have been in previous games and like

1637
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:13,079
other ones like Kingpinn who have never been in the

1638
01:08:13,079 --> 01:08:15,719
Fighting game. But I think man thing is a really

1639
01:08:15,719 --> 01:08:18,039
really fun pick because he's got more potential outside of

1640
01:08:18,079 --> 01:08:21,359
just throwing punches. He's got a lot of pe Yeah. Yeah,

1641
01:08:21,399 --> 01:08:25,079
he's the modern day Shuma Gorerath, you know, to put

1642
01:08:25,079 --> 01:08:25,560
it that way.

1643
01:08:26,359 --> 01:08:29,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the spiritual successor. Yeah.

1644
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,399
Speaker 1: Okay, where do I want to go next? Should I

1645
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:35,199
go realm with the freaks? Should I go for a

1646
01:08:35,279 --> 01:08:43,479
basic one? Hmmm, okay, let me go, let me go

1647
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:45,800
with a freak, let me go with a Maybe maybe

1648
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:48,319
that's a mean thing to say. This is a character

1649
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:51,920
in one Fighting game, a character that I learned about

1650
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:54,199
through Ultimate Lines three and I think has a lot

1651
01:08:54,239 --> 01:08:56,920
of potential and maybe fills a few gaps here. I'm

1652
01:08:56,920 --> 01:09:01,000
gonna put Crystal on the list from the what is

1653
01:09:01,079 --> 01:09:03,560
what is her realm called the it's not the the

1654
01:09:04,399 --> 01:09:08,399
in humans in humans realm, which maybe miss Marvel connection, right,

1655
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:12,119
There's like some potential, there ye some potential. But yeah,

1656
01:09:12,119 --> 01:09:14,479
I think Crystal is like just a fun character because

1657
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:17,319
she has just control of the elements, and so I

1658
01:09:17,319 --> 01:09:19,039
think maybe if we don't get an ice man, we

1659
01:09:19,039 --> 01:09:20,960
don't get a human torch On this list, But you

1660
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:22,600
can have a bunch of fun fire attacks, you can

1661
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:24,399
have a bunch of fun ice attacks. You can have

1662
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:26,920
like the rock attacks, which are like more defensive type

1663
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:29,079
of things, and then like wind to get her like

1664
01:09:29,159 --> 01:09:31,560
jumping in the air and flying around in space. I

1665
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:33,479
love her move set in Ultimate Nights three. I think

1666
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:35,479
they did a lot of fun creative stuff of like, yeah,

1667
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:37,199
instead of her just having a regular shield, she just

1668
01:09:37,239 --> 01:09:39,319
like summone's a bunch of rocks to like block her,

1669
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:41,439
and I think there's a lot of fun potentially. I

1670
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:43,159
think she's a really cool look as well. And I'd

1671
01:09:43,159 --> 01:09:45,880
love to see the design they do for her with obviously,

1672
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:47,359
like all the designs they have so far for the

1673
01:09:47,399 --> 01:09:50,720
current roster, super creative, super weird, and like obviously we

1674
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:53,119
talked about like Goat in America has like some vests

1675
01:09:53,159 --> 01:09:55,520
thing going on, and like that's the kind like they

1676
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:57,960
have fashion designers on the art team here, and I

1677
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:00,720
want to see what they give Crystal. She might be

1678
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:02,600
in Marvel Rivals too, so she may she might be

1679
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:04,359
having a little bit of a comeback here. She's of

1680
01:10:04,359 --> 01:10:07,399
course in Marvel Snap as everyone else is. But yeah,

1681
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:09,760
I think Crystal is really cool and I think has

1682
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:11,680
a lot of potential and like I said, can maybe

1683
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:15,279
fill some good elemental gaps and would have really fun animations.

1684
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:17,399
So I'm gonna put Crystal in the mix.

1685
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:21,159
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, no, I think it's a good one. I

1686
01:10:21,159 --> 01:10:23,960
think there's potential for that if they want to, you know,

1687
01:10:24,079 --> 01:10:26,960
spread their wings a little bit here. So okay, so

1688
01:10:27,279 --> 01:10:29,399
now I'm gonna get to how many picks do I

1689
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:31,119
have left in total? There?

1690
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:35,119
Speaker 1: So you have five more of your personal picks as

1691
01:10:35,399 --> 01:10:37,479
do I, and then we are four more collective ones after.

1692
01:10:38,319 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 2: Okay, perfect, So I have fire right now, and then

1693
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:42,239
if you pick one and then I'll uh, I can

1694
01:10:42,279 --> 01:10:44,199
scatter and get some other options here. But these are

1695
01:10:44,239 --> 01:10:46,960
all trash picks. These are all ones you could predict,

1696
01:10:47,079 --> 01:10:48,960
and there's ones that are just more about some respect

1697
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:51,680
on there. But going with something that's always one of

1698
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:55,920
my favorite characters, my favorite character Marvel Alliance too, Gambit,

1699
01:10:56,199 --> 01:10:59,479
you know, remember the name all that you were gonna remember?

1700
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:04,680
I think again, with the aesthetic of Token, I want

1701
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:06,439
to see it sounds, but I want to see the

1702
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:09,279
connecting energy popping off. I just feel like there's something

1703
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:11,600
that feels like it's also in the Dragon Ball zero

1704
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:14,239
where it's like that animation that stuff. I bet they

1705
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:16,439
I bet they got it there, So yeah, I would

1706
01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:18,920
that's a personal pick. I love Gambit, I you know,

1707
01:11:19,119 --> 01:11:21,479
same thing can be a striker, can be kind of

1708
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:25,279
a melee person with the staff you got projectiles, can

1709
01:11:25,359 --> 01:11:27,439
kind of do it all. So yeah, I'm putting it

1710
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:29,359
in Gambit. Actually know, I guess gam It wasn't Marvel

1711
01:11:29,399 --> 01:11:31,680
and Screen. He was great there too, but Marvel I's

1712
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:34,960
too He's a little more opee there wasn't. The man

1713
01:11:35,239 --> 01:11:37,800
ran out a lot less on some of those card attacks.

1714
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:41,840
Speaker 1: So mm hmm, I love it. Yeah, that's that's a great,

1715
01:11:42,119 --> 01:11:44,279
great pick. I'd love to see the roster they come

1716
01:11:44,359 --> 01:11:45,760
up with him, and yeah what he had been in

1717
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:48,079
like four or five games or something, so he's he's

1718
01:11:48,119 --> 01:11:51,199
done the circuit of the fighting games. But I think

1719
01:11:51,239 --> 01:11:54,159
he's uh could get a little little glow up as well,

1720
01:11:54,199 --> 01:11:58,840
So that'd be fun to see. All right, Where do

1721
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:06,239
I want to go here? Hmm? All right, I'll throw

1722
01:12:06,279 --> 01:12:08,159
another X Men on the list because then we'll have

1723
01:12:08,399 --> 01:12:11,000
three overall, and I think there's another slam dunk one

1724
01:12:11,039 --> 01:12:13,239
that's gonna get on this list. If it's not in

1725
01:12:13,279 --> 01:12:15,279
our individual picks, we'll probably do it in the collective.

1726
01:12:15,319 --> 01:12:19,920
For I'm gonna put Magic on here, so kind of

1727
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:22,239
a younger up and comer. Maybe maybe she's not always

1728
01:12:22,239 --> 01:12:26,439
associated with X Men, but associated enough for me, big sword,

1729
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:30,000
you can't go wrong there, ye, Portals. I think there's

1730
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:31,520
a lot of fun potential to be had there. I

1731
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:34,920
think she's so cool in Midnight Suns and really it's

1732
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:36,720
fun to see her just get like a full, interesting,

1733
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:39,239
super cool move set in that game. She's in Marvel

1734
01:12:39,359 --> 01:12:41,359
Rivals as well. I think she's obviously got a lot

1735
01:12:41,359 --> 01:12:44,239
of potentials, like a big mid range kind of melee character,

1736
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:46,439
which I feel like we maybe don't have a ton

1737
01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:48,239
of those. I think we have a lot of full

1738
01:12:48,279 --> 01:12:50,640
on range characters and a lot of like fist fighting types.

1739
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:52,319
But I think it's good to have like those mid

1740
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:54,760
range type characters, the zoners as they call them in

1741
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:58,159
fighting games often. So I'm gonna get yeah, Magic Magic

1742
01:12:58,199 --> 01:12:58,880
on the list here.

1743
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 2: Okay, there you go. I'm gonna make it easy then

1744
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:06,319
and just continue the trend, gonna get my boy Wolverine

1745
01:13:06,319 --> 01:13:09,079
on there. I think this is a given, like it

1746
01:13:09,239 --> 01:13:12,560
I think it's a it's he was number one right

1747
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:15,439
in the Fighting polar Yeah, I.

1748
01:13:15,359 --> 01:13:16,560
Speaker 1: Just and I don't think I read it, but there

1749
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:20,520
was there was a game that also had Wolverine with

1750
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:24,840
bone claws as a separate version of the charrect yeah,

1751
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:26,680
throw on an extra version on top of that.

1752
01:13:27,239 --> 01:13:29,760
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, no, I I think it's just gonna a

1753
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:32,880
lot of this one. I usually generally like playing Wolverine

1754
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:35,039
in most games. I think I popped off in Marvel

1755
01:13:35,119 --> 01:13:37,920
versus Capcom with them Marvel Lions like. I feel that

1756
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:41,520
because very easy thing to do is like, Okay, we're

1757
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:44,000
gonna make Wolverine have a lot of cool claw attacks.

1758
01:13:44,039 --> 01:13:46,359
It's very easy where you know, some of these characters

1759
01:13:46,399 --> 01:13:48,640
that pitched will surface. Squirrel Girl could have some cool

1760
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:51,560
tax but much more like thought has to be put in.

1761
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:53,760
It could be harder to design, or you know a

1762
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:57,760
code where this's like okay, you know some assaults into

1763
01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:01,319
that backflip into that jump spin in the like very easy,

1764
01:14:01,319 --> 01:14:05,079
but they're always somehow very satisfying to play, and sometimes

1765
01:14:05,119 --> 01:14:08,760
hopefully they could do something with the heel mechanic. I'm

1766
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:10,760
not saying that the character can't be defeated, but I

1767
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:13,159
appreciate games that do do that, where some games don't

1768
01:14:13,159 --> 01:14:15,479
they just oh, you know, it's his Wolverine and be

1769
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:18,079
happy he's in there, right, So I would like some

1770
01:14:18,199 --> 01:14:20,359
sort of buffer something to do there, even if it's

1771
01:14:20,359 --> 01:14:22,159
a team buff even if it's just like if you

1772
01:14:22,199 --> 01:14:24,840
have wolver Read on your team with this collection of people, boom,

1773
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:26,119
you're healing people up there.

1774
01:14:26,199 --> 01:14:29,239
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I mean even if like just visually

1775
01:14:29,359 --> 01:14:31,880
like as he's getting beat up, he getting ripped apart,

1776
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:34,359
but then he kind of slowly regenerates. Even if oh yeah,

1777
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:35,479
visual cool.

1778
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:37,479
Speaker 2: The Xbox game did that perfectly, I don't.

1779
01:14:37,359 --> 01:14:38,960
Speaker 1: Think, I know, I still want to play that game.

1780
01:14:39,039 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 2: That's fantastic.

1781
01:14:40,159 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, So where we are with villains, so would you

1782
01:14:43,039 --> 01:14:44,840
is man thing a villain in your mind?

1783
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:48,960
Speaker 2: Really? And to hear everybody's more on the good guy side.

1784
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:50,920
Now I got one more villain coming up.

1785
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:53,840
Speaker 1: So we have I guess surfer Surfers also kind of

1786
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:54,479
anti hero.

1787
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:57,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a hero to me, like he's like obviously

1788
01:14:57,560 --> 01:14:59,800
the storyline they make up that, but he's more hero

1789
01:14:59,880 --> 01:15:00,880
than as bad guy.

1790
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:03,840
Speaker 1: So we have Goblin then from your edition, and then

1791
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:06,079
Doctor Doom on the base roster. Let me get a

1792
01:15:06,119 --> 01:15:09,960
freak in there. I'm putting Modoc on this freaking roster

1793
01:15:10,159 --> 01:15:13,520
because I venture maybe to your point of like, would

1794
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:15,800
they put Silvers or for Anger and Goblin and now

1795
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:17,960
like this other floaty character who's like on a thing.

1796
01:15:18,399 --> 01:15:20,079
I don't know, but I would love to see what

1797
01:15:20,119 --> 01:15:23,479
they do for a Modoc roster. I'd love to see

1798
01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:25,800
the art style they do for him. He's over the top,

1799
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:28,039
he's crazy. He looks like he could be in Guilty

1800
01:15:28,119 --> 01:15:30,880
Year Strive. So I feel like it fits the the

1801
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:34,239
developing development team and their style. And yeah, I think

1802
01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:37,800
move set wise, him shooting beams, him doing like cheeky

1803
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:40,359
little things, him using those legs that Taylor loves so much.

1804
01:15:41,239 --> 01:15:43,119
Him like, I don't know, he could even summon little

1805
01:15:43,119 --> 01:15:46,159
ams soldiers to go and like just you know, fall

1806
01:15:46,159 --> 01:15:48,760
onto opponents and get like almost like a range attack

1807
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:50,880
or something. I think there's potential there as well. And

1808
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:52,720
since I have Black Panther on the list, kind of

1809
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:55,439
fun to have like a classic villain for Black Panther

1810
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:58,760
thrown in the mix there as well. So I'm putting

1811
01:15:59,239 --> 01:16:02,760
Modoc on the list and uh, yeah happens.

1812
01:16:03,319 --> 01:16:05,960
Speaker 2: That's good. Freak azoid that's my spool where I'm going next.

1813
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:08,199
Kind of a one to two combo here, but we're

1814
01:16:08,239 --> 01:16:10,720
talking about villains and then we're talking about characters in

1815
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:13,720
Benning games or been in many throwing Loki here. I

1816
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:16,239
think Loki is a great pig. I think Loki similar

1817
01:16:16,239 --> 01:16:19,520
to the Scarlett which pick. We're in this generation very popular,

1818
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:22,960
you know, in multiple whether it's Tumbler, whether it's at Disney,

1819
01:16:23,159 --> 01:16:26,079
you know the park, Like Loki just says, and which

1820
01:16:26,159 --> 01:16:28,000
route you want to go? You know, it doesn't matter.

1821
01:16:28,039 --> 01:16:30,720
There's many routes you go with that character. So uh yeah,

1822
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:33,159
I'm gonna go with the trickster god Loki there.

1823
01:16:34,079 --> 01:16:37,199
Speaker 1: Beautiful. Yeah. I think I had another you know, I

1824
01:16:37,239 --> 01:16:38,760
had like the big boys and villains. Another one I

1825
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:41,600
had was like characters that transform in some way, So

1826
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:43,760
it's thinking like a mystique or a morph or even

1827
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:46,880
like a super scroll. Actually it could be an interesting yeah,

1828
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:49,319
But I think Loki also fits that, Like even in

1829
01:16:49,359 --> 01:16:52,000
Marvel Rivals, he's like changing his appearance and stuff, and

1830
01:16:52,039 --> 01:16:54,159
so you can get some other characters' abilities. Maybe that's

1831
01:16:54,159 --> 01:16:55,800
the way that maybe all these characters don't make it

1832
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:57,399
in the game, but you could have like a couple

1833
01:16:57,439 --> 01:16:59,880
of low key attacks where he transforms into someone real quick.

1834
01:17:00,199 --> 01:17:01,760
That could be really fun. And then obviously he's got

1835
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:04,560
like clone attacks, He's got like ice attacks, even just

1836
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:07,920
using his scepter and like swinging that around. Uh, there's

1837
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:10,119
a ton of potential for Loki. So I I would

1838
01:17:10,199 --> 01:17:12,359
love to see him finally get his time to shine

1839
01:17:12,399 --> 01:17:14,079
and be in a fighting game. It's crazy he's never

1840
01:17:14,119 --> 01:17:15,880
been in there, but I guess if they've only put

1841
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:18,479
Thor in two games ever, maybe it makes sense that

1842
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:21,000
Loki is made into none if his brother is much

1843
01:17:21,039 --> 01:17:22,760
more popular brother has barely been in the mix.

1844
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:24,800
Speaker 2: Well, and even for us too, I remember being a

1845
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:27,239
big deal with Marvel Liance three when Loki gone there

1846
01:17:27,239 --> 01:17:29,159
as playable because he had been in the he was

1847
01:17:29,199 --> 01:17:31,800
the main character, the first or main villain the first game.

1848
01:17:32,079 --> 01:17:34,840
But yeah, it's just I feel like he thora and general.

1849
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 1: Fu op in that game too, which is right, like

1850
01:17:37,119 --> 01:17:39,079
they just made him extremely strong.

1851
01:17:39,159 --> 01:17:40,840
Speaker 2: But even the same thing with Thor, it's most pauper

1852
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:42,760
he's ever been. So yeah, I think that's something where

1853
01:17:43,079 --> 01:17:45,880
it's it. It'd be Loki's time and again another villain

1854
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:46,960
on the roster there, so.

1855
01:17:47,319 --> 01:17:49,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got a lot of villains. I'm happy, happy

1856
01:17:49,359 --> 01:17:49,880
to see that.

1857
01:17:51,079 --> 01:17:51,560
Speaker 2: Ah.

1858
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:54,680
Speaker 1: Okay, let's see where do I want to go next?

1859
01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:58,399
I got I got three more picks, You've got two more. Ah,

1860
01:18:02,239 --> 01:18:06,520
all right, I'm gonna put Matt Murdoch, the Great Daredevil

1861
01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:07,960
going there.

1862
01:18:08,079 --> 01:18:08,279
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1863
01:18:08,359 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, obviously he's got the weapons. He could be almost

1864
01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:12,600
like magic and on the mid range type character, but

1865
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:14,760
he's obviously got a lot of the close range fist

1866
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:17,680
fighting type stuff as well. He's he's you can see

1867
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:19,399
him in the trailer. You can see Matt Murdoch in

1868
01:18:19,399 --> 01:18:21,560
a window looking down at the battle. I don't know

1869
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:23,279
if that's a good or bad sign that he won't

1870
01:18:23,279 --> 01:18:24,760
be a playable character. I don't know. If you like

1871
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:27,520
pick Daredevil, then maybe he doesn't appear in that window.

1872
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:29,600
Maybe that's what the thing is, or maybe he's just

1873
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:31,800
not in there at all. Unfortunate, but also like the

1874
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:34,960
the Murdoch, uh what is it called Murdoch and what's

1875
01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:38,680
what's his partner's name, Nelson? Yeah, they you can see

1876
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:40,439
their office in the in the level as well, So

1877
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:42,600
obviously there are kind of references in the game already.

1878
01:18:43,039 --> 01:18:45,279
So hopefully Daredevil makes it in there too, but also

1879
01:18:45,319 --> 01:18:46,960
a character who I think, yeah, as I said, has

1880
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:48,960
appeared in one fighting game ever, Like, he's definitely got

1881
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:49,920
a ton of potential there.

1882
01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:53,479
Speaker 2: He's a fucking boxer too, his dad's a boxer. He's

1883
01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:56,960
more fighting than most of it. He's easily probably most

1884
01:18:57,000 --> 01:18:59,600
fighting than any of these characters. And then Moonnight Times

1885
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:01,640
does some boxing. But I feel like, actually, just hand

1886
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:04,600
in hand, Mett Murdock's got all these fools kind of handled.

1887
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:07,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, I I would love to see this. There's

1888
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:10,079
so much potential there moves that wise, it'd be super fun.

1889
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:13,279
And I would love to see what the costume they

1890
01:19:13,279 --> 01:19:14,239
give him in this game would be.

1891
01:19:14,399 --> 01:19:16,159
Speaker 2: You have a vest and it's gonna be popped out

1892
01:19:16,159 --> 01:19:18,159
callers and everything like that. I can just see it now,

1893
01:19:18,239 --> 01:19:21,079
big helmet. But all right, go one more boring when

1894
01:19:21,119 --> 01:19:23,039
I'll say the funner one for last Or. I just

1895
01:19:23,039 --> 01:19:25,079
talked about his brothers, so I'm doing Thor just because

1896
01:19:25,079 --> 01:19:28,880
when you gave him that stats one game for a

1897
01:19:29,079 --> 01:19:32,199
main Avenger, a guy who was a very popular character.

1898
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:35,000
You know many times the MCU kind of the lead

1899
01:19:35,039 --> 01:19:37,439
of an Infinity War has some of the most financially

1900
01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:39,840
successful stuff and again, that's the good thing with Thor

1901
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:43,000
and Loki, not like very different power sets. It's not

1902
01:19:43,079 --> 01:19:46,359
like a one A one B where sometimes you go, okay,

1903
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:49,199
like Iron Man war Machine. Yeah, there's some differences, but

1904
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:52,640
practically the same character. Thor and Loki great version. I

1905
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:54,640
think you know, any characters with capes in this game,

1906
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:56,560
you could do some fun things caution wise, but this

1907
01:19:56,640 --> 01:20:00,359
is just more like absolutely absolutely this is we're just

1908
01:20:00,359 --> 01:20:04,119
like respect the name, like he's a main Avenger franchise player, like,

1909
01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:07,199
but get Thor some war fighting game stats going on

1910
01:20:07,279 --> 01:20:09,239
in there. Yeah, you know, so I'll had to put

1911
01:20:09,319 --> 01:20:10,600
him in there, and he kind of acts as a

1912
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:13,039
heavy two sometimes because some games, in some comics they

1913
01:20:13,039 --> 01:20:15,439
design him as very big. No, he's always big, but

1914
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:18,520
sometimes he's like grotesquely big. So you could if you

1915
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:21,279
were like, yeah, if you do like lack on heavies,

1916
01:20:21,279 --> 01:20:23,199
and I actually kind of like that if they made

1917
01:20:23,279 --> 01:20:27,399
him outrageously big, and then Loki like really slinky, really tricky,

1918
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:29,920
like kind of very different than them both just looking

1919
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:33,439
like you know, professional wrestlers and stuff. So yeah, go

1920
01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:34,399
with Thor before I.

1921
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:36,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think if I'm remembering correctly, in the trailer.

1922
01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:38,840
There's like a in one part one part of the

1923
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:41,640
New York section, there's like an Avengers monument and it

1924
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:45,199
has like a statue of Ironman, Cap and Thor. I think,

1925
01:20:45,399 --> 01:20:47,000
so it's weird that two of the three of those

1926
01:20:47,039 --> 01:20:50,640
characters are confirmed, but then Thor is not, so I

1927
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:52,560
feel like he could be in there. And another like

1928
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:54,880
Asguard is just a video game level you do in

1929
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:56,640
every Marvel game. It feels like there's always gotta be

1930
01:20:56,640 --> 01:20:58,720
an Asguard section, So especially if you got Thor and

1931
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:00,840
Loki in there, that would make a lot of sense.

1932
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:05,039
That would be Yeah, that'd be that'd be great. Good

1933
01:21:05,079 --> 01:21:10,000
pick there. Uh Okay, maybe I will take because I

1934
01:21:10,039 --> 01:21:11,840
feel bad. I feel like some of the quote unquote

1935
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:13,960
boring ones, like the layup ones you you were kind

1936
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:15,279
of grabbing there and make sure they made it on

1937
01:21:15,319 --> 01:21:17,479
the list. I was maybe saving those for the collective

1938
01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:19,479
forward the end. But I'll take a boring one here

1939
01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:20,880
because I think he's got to be on the list.

1940
01:21:21,039 --> 01:21:23,159
We have man thing, a big guy. You gotta put

1941
01:21:23,199 --> 01:21:26,479
Hulk on there. Yeah, you just you just gotta. We

1942
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:28,840
need more big characters because, as you mentioned, Thor could

1943
01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:30,880
be that guy. Other people could be Bulky, but we

1944
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:33,039
need a couple of massive people on the list, and

1945
01:21:33,119 --> 01:21:35,800
so I think man Thing and Hulk make a good

1946
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:38,239
little pair there. It's Hull. What are you gonna say?

1947
01:21:38,239 --> 01:21:39,760
I mean, he's he's got the move set, He's got

1948
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:43,199
all the move potential. You could even incorporate a Bruce

1949
01:21:43,239 --> 01:21:45,720
Banner mechanic where he gets depowered or something. I don't know.

1950
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:47,159
We want to go down that road. They do that

1951
01:21:47,159 --> 01:21:50,800
in Marvel Rivals. So there's potential there. But yeah, it's Hulk.

1952
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:52,920
You gotta put him in there. I was thinking though

1953
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:55,239
for some of these kind of more like a Wolverine,

1954
01:21:55,359 --> 01:21:57,560
like what if we did X twenty three or thor

1955
01:21:57,640 --> 01:21:59,079
what if we did Beta ray Bo. Do you think

1956
01:21:59,079 --> 01:22:01,239
with Hulk, Like, I don't know, should we go for

1957
01:22:01,359 --> 01:22:03,359
variant or just just just regular Hulk.

1958
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:05,720
Speaker 2: I think you just go regular Hulk and the coutumes

1959
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:07,439
can always be red.

1960
01:22:07,239 --> 01:22:09,159
Speaker 1: Hole in they haul.

1961
01:22:10,039 --> 01:22:12,720
Speaker 2: Yes, tons of versions there you could do. So yeah,

1962
01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:15,039
i'd say you go that route beautiful.

1963
01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:17,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, we got one more pick each and then

1964
01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:21,319
we have our four collective kind of team picks after Yeah.

1965
01:22:21,119 --> 01:22:25,039
Speaker 2: It's tough, so I'm gonna I'm gonna put I was

1966
01:22:25,079 --> 01:22:27,000
gonna pitch this guy next, but I think in the

1967
01:22:27,119 --> 01:22:29,720
four I could sell you on him if nice all

1968
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:31,439
in yours. Yeah, there's a couple. Yeah, Like I said,

1969
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:32,880
that was more of the easier picks, but I wanted

1970
01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:34,680
to make sure because same thing, it's four, but still

1971
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:36,800
it's only four, right, So I don't want a situation

1972
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:40,920
where Wolverine's getting bucked off because we're already uh close there.

1973
01:22:44,199 --> 01:22:48,319
I don't know why, uh I go back and forth

1974
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:50,079
because there's a couple of other weird characters, but I'm

1975
01:22:50,079 --> 01:22:53,159
gonna go a hard pick a character that I feel

1976
01:22:53,159 --> 01:22:54,960
like does not pop up in much. Same thing Marble

1977
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:57,960
line three when they got confirmed very excited, let's get

1978
01:22:57,960 --> 01:23:02,720
Frank Castle in there. Let's let's just like because it

1979
01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:06,760
never makes sense. He's fighting man thing he's fighting. That's

1980
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:09,000
another reason why it's trying to get him in there,

1981
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:11,600
because the same thing with Daredevil. He is a more

1982
01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:14,560
fighting character than some of these other ones. And yeah

1983
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:16,399
is it funny just stuff he's gonna have a shotgun

1984
01:23:16,399 --> 01:23:19,479
while he goes against the war. Sure, but like happens

1985
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:23,840
in Colm books too, so uh yeah, I I yeah,

1986
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:26,359
I think he could be I don't think you would

1987
01:23:26,399 --> 01:23:28,960
do this because he's already in the game. But if

1988
01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:31,920
they could finally do like a cosmic ghostwriter skin, that'd

1989
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:34,760
be very cool. So because people don't know, uh, Frank

1990
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:37,720
Castle becomes Ghostwriter and it's like the space Yeah, I

1991
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:39,359
don't think they did it. Because Robbie Race is there.

1992
01:23:39,359 --> 01:23:41,399
They probably give it to him. So I don't think

1993
01:23:41,399 --> 01:23:43,880
this pick is lightly all. This is a Travis Hart pick.

1994
01:23:44,079 --> 01:23:45,319
Like you said, he was now on that list. I

1995
01:23:45,359 --> 01:23:46,479
was like, Okay, I gotta get him in there. But

1996
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:48,119
I really don't think they'd put him in there because

1997
01:23:48,119 --> 01:23:50,239
I think sometimes they just look at lists of go ah,

1998
01:23:50,319 --> 01:23:53,439
he's almost too human, you know, because the same thing

1999
01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:55,079
with Marble Line three. That was a big deal for

2000
01:23:55,159 --> 01:23:57,119
us that he got in there because he wasn't in

2001
01:23:57,159 --> 01:23:59,840
the other ones. And he's a very popular character that

2002
01:23:59,880 --> 01:24:01,520
I think it's hard to tackle in two ways as

2003
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:04,800
far as the fighting, but also sometimes politically some people

2004
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:07,439
might not want that on their game. Right. Frank Castle

2005
01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:09,880
creates a lot of like think pieces. He's not like

2006
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:13,039
a like a fun character, so I can see them

2007
01:24:13,079 --> 01:24:14,479
being like, Noah, I want to keep this game light.

2008
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:16,159
And same thing with if they want kids to play

2009
01:24:16,159 --> 01:24:18,680
it right, same thing, like, ah, let's enough Punisher in there,

2010
01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:20,840
but I would like Punisher to make his debut and

2011
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:21,479
get in there.

2012
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 1: So yeah, I love the pick. I think that's that's

2013
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:25,239
a really great one.

2014
01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:25,840
Speaker 2: Thank you.

2015
01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 1: All Right. For my last personal pick, I'm gonna go

2016
01:24:30,039 --> 01:24:32,119
with a personal one for sure, And we maybe have

2017
01:24:32,159 --> 01:24:34,680
a couple of other characters that hit this same archetype,

2018
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:37,239
but I'm gonna I'm just gonna go for it anyway,

2019
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:40,680
another character from the beloved Midnight Sounds. I'm going with

2020
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:43,079
Nico Nico Minoru. I want to put her in the

2021
01:24:43,119 --> 01:24:46,199
mix there. I mean, her weapon's cool, all the potential

2022
01:24:46,359 --> 01:24:49,520
magic abilities. I desperately want to see what the art

2023
01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:51,279
style they would pick for her, because she's such a

2024
01:24:51,279 --> 01:24:54,640
stylish character already. Obviously, I have some some Midnight Suns

2025
01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:56,840
types of characters in the mix, so she could fit

2026
01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:58,720
in there. I feel like we've almost got like a

2027
01:24:58,720 --> 01:25:00,560
bit of that young Avengers team. No, maybe she could

2028
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:03,119
fit in that kind of thing, too true, But yeah,

2029
01:25:03,319 --> 01:25:05,239
I just think with the magic. Yes, I already have

2030
01:25:05,239 --> 01:25:07,159
Scarlet Witch in the mix. You see, I did not

2031
01:25:07,199 --> 01:25:09,359
pick Doctor Strange. I thought it's okay if he warms

2032
01:25:09,359 --> 01:25:11,279
the bench this time around, and let me get some

2033
01:25:11,319 --> 01:25:15,399
other fresh Magic characters in there, including Magic herself, but yeah,

2034
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:17,600
especially yeah Nico and Magic too. Now that's like an

2035
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:20,079
eternal duo in my mind from that game. So I'd

2036
01:25:20,079 --> 01:25:22,720
love to have them on the roster together. Yeah, I think.

2037
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:25,119
I think Nico has so much potential and would be

2038
01:25:25,319 --> 01:25:26,680
a fun one to get in the mix there.

2039
01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:29,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it. I think there's some good stuff,

2040
01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:33,279
and it's she just kind of becoming the default like

2041
01:25:35,319 --> 01:25:37,680
Runaways character, Like I put that one in there because

2042
01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:39,600
the rest of them haven't really stuck. So yeah, I

2043
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:40,039
like that.

2044
01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:45,760
Speaker 1: All right. So there are the initial picks. We have

2045
01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:48,039
four more to round out our thirty two men roster.

2046
01:25:48,119 --> 01:25:51,000
Do you need a quick recap? Do you think you remember?

2047
01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:54,840
Speaker 2: The only recrap, the only recap I need right now

2048
01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:56,800
is how many X people do We got on the

2049
01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:58,600
list because we said we had to for sure a force,

2050
01:25:58,600 --> 01:25:59,680
so I want to make sure because I know we

2051
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:02,239
have Gamba Storing Storm, Yeah.

2052
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:06,479
Speaker 1: So Gambit, Wolverine, Storm, Magic, Right, do you count if

2053
01:26:06,479 --> 01:26:11,359
you count Magic? I do, yeah, Carlotte, which I guess still,

2054
01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:17,960
and I think that is it? So I mean one that.

2055
01:26:18,199 --> 01:26:21,680
I mean, Magneto seems like a strong potential there his strikes.

2056
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:26,800
Speaker 2: Rgneto is not on the list right oh man.

2057
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:28,800
Speaker 1: And as I mentioned, he's in that top five of

2058
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:32,119
most common characters. I think we have all the other

2059
01:26:32,159 --> 01:26:34,239
top five right now except for him, so he would

2060
01:26:34,239 --> 01:26:37,000
be the next He's the second most well tied for

2061
01:26:37,039 --> 01:26:40,520
his second most popular character and fighting history, and he's

2062
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:43,279
we don't have him yet, So I think he's strong potential.

2063
01:26:44,159 --> 01:26:47,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, because two that I probably would have removed somebody.

2064
01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:49,560
I probably would remove Frank and put him in there

2065
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:51,960
because it's just or that's just because I think that's

2066
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:54,279
like a given powers. Like you said, he has the

2067
01:26:54,359 --> 01:26:57,319
history there. I think he's one of the most popular

2068
01:26:57,359 --> 01:26:59,319
because the only other X one I had right now

2069
01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:01,680
I was going off a hard eyes, going off fun.

2070
01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:03,640
So now I have Magneto, but the other one I

2071
01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:06,560
would have there to put up for tribute his Nightcrawler

2072
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:07,119
because I.

2073
01:27:07,159 --> 01:27:08,840
Speaker 1: Just feel like he was one of my bold ones

2074
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:10,760
as well. Yeah, make it in my top ten.

2075
01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:14,039
Speaker 2: But so that's that's who I'm kind of struggling with between. Also,

2076
01:27:14,079 --> 01:27:15,640
we could get them both in there potentially, but if

2077
01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:18,039
we had to pick one, that's very tough because I

2078
01:27:18,079 --> 01:27:20,079
think they both have good reasons to be in there.

2079
01:27:20,119 --> 01:27:21,760
So we don't decide yet. But that was the Yeah,

2080
01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:22,399
the other one.

2081
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:24,399
Speaker 1: Let's pretend they're all trying to get in the club

2082
01:27:24,399 --> 01:27:25,920
and we're gonna make a little line up right now

2083
01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:29,600
with potential people. So other other villains. I was considering, like,

2084
01:27:30,359 --> 01:27:32,279
I'm fine if Thanos isn't here. I feel like it's

2085
01:27:32,319 --> 01:27:34,840
you know, it's not that he's not anymore, but yeah,

2086
01:27:35,039 --> 01:27:38,079
he's been there, done that. I think Omega red, you know,

2087
01:27:38,239 --> 01:27:39,880
I would have loved to see him in there, but

2088
01:27:40,119 --> 01:27:43,199
he has made his appearances before. I think, hell, it

2089
01:27:43,239 --> 01:27:46,600
would be cool. I mean Venom. If we wanted more

2090
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:49,000
big guys like a venom or, I think Blob could

2091
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:51,399
be quite fun. I think I think we'm okay on

2092
01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:53,079
the big guys. I think we got a couple like

2093
01:27:53,159 --> 01:27:55,520
even Modoc could be in that tier as well.

2094
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:57,399
Speaker 2: Right, I think he definitely could be in there. I

2095
01:27:57,399 --> 01:27:59,359
don't have him particularly on my list, like we would

2096
01:27:59,359 --> 01:28:01,279
circle back we were really running out, which I don't

2097
01:28:01,279 --> 01:28:03,800
think we will. I would have if I was running

2098
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:05,960
at people instead of Venom, I would have put Carnage

2099
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:08,199
just because carnage has never hurt I don't think been

2100
01:28:08,279 --> 01:28:10,000
in that stuff. And he has all those attacks where

2101
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:12,760
he like his hands in a chainsaw or a sword,

2102
01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:15,079
like you could do multiple stuff like that. So if

2103
01:28:15,079 --> 01:28:17,119
you're to ask me, it's tough because Venom has a

2104
01:28:17,159 --> 01:28:19,760
bunch of movies still very popular. But it's just the

2105
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:21,520
same thing, like you know, sit down and kind of

2106
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:23,279
let someone else have a have a turn there.

2107
01:28:23,319 --> 01:28:26,880
Speaker 1: But so we also discussed the F four. Neither of

2108
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:29,039
us picked any F four. How are you feeling about

2109
01:28:29,079 --> 01:28:30,039
them at this point in time?

2110
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:33,720
Speaker 2: That's tough because with this four, are we going with

2111
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:35,640
the four we'd want the most, or four we think

2112
01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:37,840
is likely the most, or as.

2113
01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:41,079
Speaker 1: It's purely our dream roster dreams.

2114
01:28:41,359 --> 01:28:43,600
Speaker 2: I like the F four, but there's no one I need.

2115
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:46,000
Like again, the people I would need is doctor Doom,

2116
01:28:46,039 --> 01:28:47,640
and I got him, you know, So.

2117
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:50,079
Speaker 1: We got Surfer in Doom, but no F four And

2118
01:28:50,199 --> 01:28:51,159
I'm okay with it.

2119
01:28:51,479 --> 01:28:54,359
Speaker 2: And don't get me wrong, I think that over my

2120
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:56,760
pick up like Frank Castle, like the thing or human

2121
01:28:56,760 --> 01:28:58,840
towards would make it like that's why he's a dream roster.

2122
01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:01,119
But I think there's multiple or man thing, right, they

2123
01:29:01,199 --> 01:29:04,000
might go just you know, like Facebook, drop the man

2124
01:29:04,119 --> 01:29:06,439
and just put the thing, you know, like there's multiple characters.

2125
01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:08,880
I think they would. I do think you will get

2126
01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:11,520
one other f W member in here because of Doom,

2127
01:29:11,560 --> 01:29:13,960
but I'm fine. On my list. I have actually someone

2128
01:29:14,359 --> 01:29:17,600
f or adjacent to Pitch, but who's that? His name War,

2129
01:29:18,239 --> 01:29:19,840
because I think a character.

2130
01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:23,079
Speaker 1: Never appeared before, a notable omission.

2131
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:26,520
Speaker 2: Big character. I think they could do some really fun things. Again, aesthetically,

2132
01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:28,920
I could be wrong. I don't think we have a

2133
01:29:29,039 --> 01:29:31,239
water based fighter on here.

2134
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:34,600
Speaker 1: Magic magic, Yeah it does.

2135
01:29:34,680 --> 01:29:36,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, so maybe maybe she doesn't use that one, so

2136
01:29:36,399 --> 01:29:37,880
you can let name War have his time, but you

2137
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:41,039
could do some fun slide attacks things like that. Yeah.

2138
01:29:41,119 --> 01:29:43,279
Name War also got the trident in there, so that's

2139
01:29:43,359 --> 01:29:46,000
kind of a good combo character. So uh, not like

2140
01:29:46,039 --> 01:29:48,279
a for sure, But that's somebody on my list. And

2141
01:29:48,319 --> 01:29:50,640
then I have another person that's adjacent to him, that's

2142
01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:52,479
an Avenger that I think I would sell you on.

2143
01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:54,760
That I think, to me is like a top tier pick.

2144
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:55,920
Speaker 1: But give it to me.

2145
01:29:55,960 --> 01:29:59,560
Speaker 2: Who's that doesn't matter which one who's portraying him, But

2146
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:02,239
to me, we've talked. Both were disappointment night suns. We

2147
01:30:02,239 --> 01:30:04,640
disappoint Marvel Ultimate Alliance I thought for sure and three

2148
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:06,520
was happening because there's a stage that he's in, but

2149
01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:09,000
he's not. You gotta give us an ant Man. I

2150
01:30:09,039 --> 01:30:10,880
just feel like we've talked about so many times. It's

2151
01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:13,199
like a speedster where there's so much fun stuff to do,

2152
01:30:13,279 --> 01:30:16,079
and I think the speedster, like the size, is probably

2153
01:30:16,119 --> 01:30:19,239
why most time Dev's go, eh, we're not gonna do that.

2154
01:30:19,239 --> 01:30:22,439
That's a pain. But dream rosters. I would love for both,

2155
01:30:22,479 --> 01:30:24,800
if you could do and joint Man have those two

2156
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:25,560
combos of.

2157
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:27,319
Speaker 1: Yes, he could be the big guy and this week.

2158
01:30:27,159 --> 01:30:29,119
Speaker 2: He could be heavy. Yeah he could be a heavy.

2159
01:30:29,119 --> 01:30:30,840
So the same thing like, oh, we only have three heavies,

2160
01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:34,119
but modowcs there that can work with that. Ant Man's

2161
01:30:34,159 --> 01:30:36,800
there that could be that. So that's where I would

2162
01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:38,840
I would love out of all the ones I have

2163
01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:41,000
on my list so far, ant Man or I can

2164
01:30:41,039 --> 01:30:42,960
just say Hank Pim so we can get Giant Man

2165
01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:45,800
and ant Man, just so we could have those attacks.

2166
01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:48,039
It's even being little too, like that'd be tons of fun,

2167
01:30:48,159 --> 01:30:50,119
especially in a four team scenario where you tag in

2168
01:30:50,439 --> 01:30:52,319
and you don't even see him right away maybe you know,

2169
01:30:52,479 --> 01:30:53,319
like where the hell is he?

2170
01:30:53,479 --> 01:30:55,840
Speaker 1: Or it's huge, Like you could have some crazy finishers

2171
01:30:55,880 --> 01:31:00,439
with like mixing those powers up. Absolutely, I definitely and

2172
01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:03,560
Wasp were too like the bold ones for me because

2173
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:06,000
I think Wasp, oh, like, maybe she doesn't have the

2174
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:08,359
Giant Man effect, but she has the shrinking ability, but

2175
01:31:08,399 --> 01:31:10,479
she also can fly, she could use her wings, she

2176
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:12,199
has like her beams that she can use. She just

2177
01:31:12,199 --> 01:31:15,279
has like a bit more stuff in her inner tool bag,

2178
01:31:15,319 --> 01:31:18,039
I guess. But I I like, I really like your

2179
01:31:18,039 --> 01:31:19,439
pitch of ant Man because I think that's a really

2180
01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:21,760
great I can't think of another game that has like

2181
01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:24,960
a hybrid big and small character like that. Like that's

2182
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:27,720
a very unique mechanic. So I'm I'm I think I'm

2183
01:31:28,479 --> 01:31:30,640
coming into this. I was like more Wasp over a man,

2184
01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:32,039
but now I'm the opposite.

2185
01:31:31,640 --> 01:31:34,760
Speaker 2: Of the giant Yeah, you know, covers us on the

2186
01:31:34,760 --> 01:31:35,359
heavy side.

2187
01:31:35,399 --> 01:31:38,680
Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, how about a couple other Spider people.

2188
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:40,399
What about a gun or Miles in the mix?

2189
01:31:43,279 --> 01:31:47,119
Speaker 2: If you're telling me this is a massive Ross or DLC, yes,

2190
01:31:47,319 --> 01:31:49,159
but it's kind of the same thing. If I get

2191
01:31:49,239 --> 01:31:51,640
I know, they would make them different, especially Miles with

2192
01:31:51,680 --> 01:31:54,560
the electricity. I think Miles has a good potential to

2193
01:31:54,640 --> 01:31:56,920
be there, but I think it's sometimes like the F four,

2194
01:31:57,039 --> 01:31:59,439
certain other characters like Read and Miss Marvel, you could

2195
01:31:59,439 --> 01:32:02,680
get too sane. So I'm not opposed them. I think

2196
01:32:02,720 --> 01:32:05,000
if anyone, it would be Miles, just because the variety

2197
01:32:05,199 --> 01:32:07,960
of power. But I'm not like a have to maybe

2198
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:10,359
because like I've always liked the Spider People, but I've

2199
01:32:10,359 --> 01:32:13,000
never loved them. I think I actually really enjoyed Gwen

2200
01:32:13,039 --> 01:32:15,680
in Alliance three because she had those big powerful attacks, but.

2201
01:32:15,640 --> 01:32:17,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, she could make the big web bombs.

2202
01:32:17,399 --> 01:32:19,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some good stuff there, but it's not like

2203
01:32:19,960 --> 01:32:22,800
a half for me, like that thing Like if Spider People,

2204
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:26,119
I'd probably still lean towards like a venom or carnage

2205
01:32:26,159 --> 01:32:27,760
over those two, which is you know, bad to say,

2206
01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:28,279
or even like a.

2207
01:32:29,079 --> 01:32:31,439
Speaker 1: Probably the better, the better pick. And it's funny you're

2208
01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:33,279
you're leaning Miles. I was more leaning Gwen, So I

2209
01:32:33,319 --> 01:32:36,000
think it probably makes more sense to just not buy

2210
01:32:36,079 --> 01:32:37,920
eitherm on you know, yeah, right, they're right on the

2211
01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:41,520
front porch, but they're not making it in the door agains. Yeah, uh,

2212
01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:44,880
who else do you got for contenders that were top.

2213
01:32:44,720 --> 01:32:46,079
Speaker 2: Not that was it some of the other ones you

2214
01:32:46,159 --> 01:32:48,600
had mentioned before, so other than now, I had to

2215
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:50,039
make Needle there, but that was it for the ones

2216
01:32:50,079 --> 01:32:52,840
I had left over that weren't mentioned later, like by

2217
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:54,319
you or myself at some point.

2218
01:32:54,479 --> 01:32:58,000
Speaker 1: So okay, so one for me Silok would be cool.

2219
01:32:58,039 --> 01:33:00,600
I've picked two other sword characters, so I'm fine not

2220
01:33:00,680 --> 01:33:03,560
putting in a third sword character in the mixt She's

2221
01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:05,399
got more than just swords going on. But I also

2222
01:33:05,399 --> 01:33:08,039
think with Gambit maybe that's similar, like throwing beams and

2223
01:33:08,039 --> 01:33:12,920
things Elektra next to Daredevil. I thought about combo. Yes,

2224
01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:17,000
similar moves that Elena. I think would be really cool,

2225
01:33:17,079 --> 01:33:21,560
just to have that close range fistfighting woman character because

2226
01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:24,000
we have like an iron fist. But I think interesting

2227
01:33:24,039 --> 01:33:26,920
potential there. I don't know who the I mean, Electra

2228
01:33:27,079 --> 01:33:28,920
might be like the one to do if you're gonna

2229
01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:34,079
have that type of character my other ones. So I

2230
01:33:34,079 --> 01:33:37,039
think Hawkeye's been in one game. I like the idea

2231
01:33:37,079 --> 01:33:39,399
of a bow and arrow character. I was thinking substitute

2232
01:33:39,479 --> 01:33:41,880
from Kate for Kate. Bishop put her in there instead.

2233
01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:46,039
Speaker 2: Could be Avengers in there too, So we'll.

2234
01:33:45,880 --> 01:33:47,359
Speaker 1: Put them on the on the porch. We'll see if

2235
01:33:47,399 --> 01:33:50,119
they make it in. And then I think my last

2236
01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:54,279
let's see, my last bolded ones obviously have a million

2237
01:33:54,359 --> 01:33:58,960
characters written down. My last bolded ones were Jeff the

2238
01:33:59,039 --> 01:34:01,600
lad Shark, who's just become a popular character, like they

2239
01:34:01,640 --> 01:34:05,520
just were a weird freakazoid animal type. Could be interesting.

2240
01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:07,439
I was thinking how weird and cool would be if

2241
01:34:07,439 --> 01:34:09,960
they put Hunter from Midnight Suns in there, like the

2242
01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:13,479
player character from Midnight Suns. That would be interesting, funny. Yeah,

2243
01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:17,039
of course my girl Songbird, Uh, because I love I.

2244
01:34:17,000 --> 01:34:20,319
Speaker 2: Thought when you're talking about what I thought coming.

2245
01:34:20,279 --> 01:34:21,960
Speaker 1: She was at Thunderbolts in a big way, maybe I

2246
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:24,359
would have been hyped and got her in there. And

2247
01:34:24,479 --> 01:34:27,319
the meme pick just because the internet is because of

2248
01:34:27,359 --> 01:34:29,279
Marvel where I was just thirsting over Emma Frost. I

2249
01:34:29,279 --> 01:34:31,840
thought she's never been in a fighting game before. I

2250
01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:34,600
think they should do it. If they want like clicks

2251
01:34:34,640 --> 01:34:37,119
on the Internet by their game, they should do it.

2252
01:34:37,159 --> 01:34:40,600
But I don't know. Uh, And then yeah, I think

2253
01:34:41,840 --> 01:34:43,560
I think I'm fine with that. I think I think

2254
01:34:43,560 --> 01:34:46,680
those are maybe the top top pitches I had, so

2255
01:34:47,239 --> 01:34:48,920
the ones that we kind of left at the door.

2256
01:34:48,920 --> 01:34:53,239
Here we have Magneto Nightcrawler nay More, aunt Man and

2257
01:34:53,319 --> 01:34:55,199
Kate Bishop. So we really have five. So I guess

2258
01:34:55,239 --> 01:34:56,720
we could just look at it as we just have

2259
01:34:56,760 --> 01:34:57,920
to chop one of them if we want.

2260
01:34:57,960 --> 01:35:01,720
Speaker 2: I still need a lecture too the Door as well. Okay, yeah,

2261
01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:03,760
lecture on the Door because she was on my list

2262
01:35:03,760 --> 01:35:04,800
that I kind of over the.

2263
01:35:04,840 --> 01:35:07,359
Speaker 1: Team dared have on Electra and then two other people.

2264
01:35:07,399 --> 01:35:08,840
Speaker 2: I guess, well, then if you got Frank there, if

2265
01:35:08,840 --> 01:35:13,319
you got Frank and yeah, exactly, so sorry Luke, he

2266
01:35:13,359 --> 01:35:15,159
didn't make it, but neither did Jessica Jones.

2267
01:35:15,199 --> 01:35:17,079
Speaker 1: So yeah, so I'll drop Wasp out of there, and

2268
01:35:17,079 --> 01:35:21,880
I'll drop Hawkeye just for Kate Bishop. Okay, yeah, I

2269
01:35:21,920 --> 01:35:23,640
think I think we should pick one of these X

2270
01:35:23,680 --> 01:35:26,000
Men characters, but not have both. Maybe make need a

2271
01:35:26,079 --> 01:35:30,000
Nightcrawler just because we already have. We already have some

2272
01:35:30,079 --> 01:35:33,560
decent X Men representation. I could be persuaded otherwise, but

2273
01:35:33,640 --> 01:35:34,319
you might have.

2274
01:35:35,279 --> 01:35:37,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, we could always come back to later. If I

2275
01:35:37,239 --> 01:35:39,119
had to pick. As much as I love the other guy,

2276
01:35:39,199 --> 01:35:41,920
I would have to go Maynedo for the history and

2277
01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:44,720
he's always still a unique character, unique designs and same thing.

2278
01:35:44,800 --> 01:35:47,800
Kind of that's tough, though, Nightcrawl or aesthetically could look

2279
01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:49,000
really good too at the token style.

2280
01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:51,640
Speaker 1: But I alt have your sword. We have we have magic,

2281
01:35:51,680 --> 01:35:55,079
a teleporting sword user, so maybe maybe we don't need to.

2282
01:35:55,439 --> 01:35:57,680
Speaker 2: This hits the double of it's a mutant and it's

2283
01:35:57,720 --> 01:36:00,720
a villain, and yeah, talk about sthetically. Maybe they'll get

2284
01:36:00,720 --> 01:36:02,119
a pop off with that helmet, you know.

2285
01:36:02,319 --> 01:36:04,199
Speaker 1: So, and we have Scarlet Witch, so we could get

2286
01:36:04,239 --> 01:36:06,880
like a little there you go father daughter moment.

2287
01:36:07,159 --> 01:36:09,680
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, I would put the on Mayby.

2288
01:36:09,760 --> 01:36:11,479
Speaker 1: You know, he's made it in the club. So now

2289
01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:13,520
we're between nay More, I should just lok it man.

2290
01:36:13,560 --> 01:36:15,159
That sounds that we're both really thrilled by that.

2291
01:36:15,399 --> 01:36:18,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have tons of fun with the giant Man,

2292
01:36:18,760 --> 01:36:20,119
little Man, all that type of stuff.

2293
01:36:20,880 --> 01:36:24,840
Speaker 1: So nay More, Kate, Bishop, and Electra are the the

2294
01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:26,560
final three at the door here.

2295
01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:29,159
Speaker 2: How many Melee characters do we have in listless? Right now?

2296
01:36:29,199 --> 01:36:31,279
That's where I'm coming from, the Cape Bishop side of it.

2297
01:36:32,039 --> 01:36:35,039
Speaker 1: So Melee character like strictly Melee characters we have.

2298
01:36:35,359 --> 01:36:39,439
Speaker 2: Or sorry, with no one of my you mean range yeah, yeah,

2299
01:36:39,560 --> 01:36:42,319
range and projection projections.

2300
01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:44,359
Speaker 1: I mean, okay, I guess, I mean we have a

2301
01:36:44,359 --> 01:36:46,960
lot of hybrids, but I'll say iron Man, I'll say

2302
01:36:47,399 --> 01:36:51,399
star Lord, Storm, maybe a little bit of both. I

2303
01:36:51,399 --> 01:36:53,279
don't know what Doctor Doom is. I forget what he's

2304
01:36:53,319 --> 01:36:53,680
like in the.

2305
01:36:54,399 --> 01:36:56,319
Speaker 2: Some beans and some bad oh right in the tray.

2306
01:36:56,319 --> 01:36:58,039
It could be different. He always kind of goes back

2307
01:36:58,039 --> 01:36:58,439
and forth.

2308
01:36:58,479 --> 01:37:05,720
Speaker 1: But yeah, Goblin's probably pretty projectile, heavy gambits, chucking cards, punishers,

2309
01:37:05,800 --> 01:37:09,640
all guns I think are mostly guns. Moonnight's probably got

2310
01:37:09,920 --> 01:37:12,439
some chuck ability. Scarlet Witch and Nico are probably both

2311
01:37:12,520 --> 01:37:16,800
pretty range focus. Crystal's probably got quite a bit of range.

2312
01:37:17,199 --> 01:37:20,560
And we have a roster cement and other metal things

2313
01:37:20,560 --> 01:37:20,920
as well.

2314
01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:23,439
Speaker 2: Twenty four was it that we had out in total

2315
01:37:23,479 --> 01:37:25,119
the roster thirty two?

2316
01:37:25,239 --> 01:37:26,199
Speaker 1: We're at thirty right now.

2317
01:37:26,239 --> 01:37:29,239
Speaker 2: We have two more spots, so that's right now counting.

2318
01:37:29,319 --> 01:37:31,239
And we didn't count the range character, and we didn't

2319
01:37:31,239 --> 01:37:34,520
even count the characters like even star Lord, and you

2320
01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:36,680
said Storm, but even star Lord would be there, said

2321
01:37:36,720 --> 01:37:39,760
star Okay, even Spidey has an aspect of that too,

2322
01:37:39,880 --> 01:37:42,720
right for his webs. So that's where I would come down.

2323
01:37:42,760 --> 01:37:45,039
And maybe Kate Bishop doesn't make it through. I think

2324
01:37:45,119 --> 01:37:47,560
if you had a game of not as many projectile characters,

2325
01:37:47,880 --> 01:37:51,720
then sure. But with that many, I feel like she

2326
01:37:51,920 --> 01:37:54,399
would get the back end a lot like I don't know,

2327
01:37:54,680 --> 01:37:57,319
unless they really find to that character. I could see

2328
01:37:57,319 --> 01:37:59,359
a lot of people not picking that character where they

2329
01:37:59,439 --> 01:38:03,000
name or has a bit more, you know, Bizazz. I

2330
01:38:03,039 --> 01:38:05,479
think Electras and Ties and Electra two. Just again, that's

2331
01:38:05,479 --> 01:38:09,159
a more fighting based character. I think the art style. Yeah,

2332
01:38:09,199 --> 01:38:10,920
and again you could do some good stuff with her

2333
01:38:10,960 --> 01:38:14,840
and Matt, so yeah, I would bump Kate for Elektra

2334
01:38:14,920 --> 01:38:15,680
and nay More.

2335
01:38:16,239 --> 01:38:18,239
Speaker 1: I am inclined to agree, and I think we've made

2336
01:38:18,239 --> 01:38:20,520
a pretty delicious roster here, So let me read it

2337
01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:24,880
out one last time. We have Captain America, Iron Man, Ghostwriter,

2338
01:38:25,319 --> 01:38:28,600
Spider Man, star Lord, Storm, Miss Marvel, and Doctor Doom.

2339
01:38:28,640 --> 01:38:30,640
Of course, those are the already confirmed characters. But here

2340
01:38:30,680 --> 01:38:35,720
are dream roster characters. We have Silver Surfer, Moonnight, Magneto,

2341
01:38:36,279 --> 01:38:41,359
Squirrel Girl, Scarlet, Witch, ant Man, Green Goblin, Blade, nay More,

2342
01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:50,720
Iron Fist, Black Panther, Electra Man, Thing, Crystal, Gambit, Magic, Wolverine, Modoc, Loki, Daredevil,

2343
01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:54,920
Thor Hulk, Punisher, and Nico Minorud Around it out. I

2344
01:38:55,000 --> 01:38:57,439
think that's a pretty damn good roster. I would be

2345
01:38:58,199 --> 01:39:00,399
more than thrilled. If we got even half of those

2346
01:39:00,520 --> 01:39:02,039
people in the mix, I think.

2347
01:39:02,159 --> 01:39:04,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'm very curious to see the raw. And

2348
01:39:04,720 --> 01:39:06,840
what I hope is that there is on the ross

2349
01:39:06,840 --> 01:39:09,079
reveal one or two characters on there that we don't have.

2350
01:39:09,199 --> 01:39:11,199
I'm not talking about like the big ones. I'm hoping

2351
01:39:11,199 --> 01:39:13,920
there's characters that we didn't even think of, or characters

2352
01:39:13,920 --> 01:39:15,359
like oh, Mega Red that we went on out that

2353
01:39:15,399 --> 01:39:17,600
won't happen, that would just no, a Mega Red's in there,

2354
01:39:17,600 --> 01:39:19,720
whoever would be? Or even like if it's Juggernaut, we're

2355
01:39:19,800 --> 01:39:22,239
go I guess we discount Juggernaut for some reason because

2356
01:39:22,239 --> 01:39:24,239
all it takes. You know, some of those characters are

2357
01:39:24,239 --> 01:39:26,880
on there just because certain deaths are like I love Juggernaut,

2358
01:39:26,920 --> 01:39:28,680
you know, like some of those are definitely the same

2359
01:39:28,680 --> 01:39:31,199
thing like us we're making a game would be personal picks.

2360
01:39:31,239 --> 01:39:34,479
Speaker 1: So and all the interviews I've listened to with like

2361
01:39:35,039 --> 01:39:38,520
Marvel developer, like Midnight Suns or Ultimate Alliance, like Marvel

2362
01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:40,479
doesn't say you need to put this character in there.

2363
01:39:40,520 --> 01:39:41,920
They let you do whatever the heck you want. They

2364
01:39:42,000 --> 01:39:44,680
give it like to the developers almost completely. And so

2365
01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:46,119
I feel like that's where you would get a lot

2366
01:39:46,159 --> 01:39:48,680
of heart picks. It's not necessarily like Marvel's like, Okay,

2367
01:39:48,720 --> 01:39:51,359
you gotta put you know, you gotta put Substorm in there,

2368
01:39:51,399 --> 01:39:53,239
because we just really fantastic four. They don't do that.

2369
01:39:53,279 --> 01:39:55,199
They don't care. They let you pick whatever you want,

2370
01:39:55,319 --> 01:39:57,039
which is really cool. Yeah.

2371
01:39:57,199 --> 01:39:59,239
Speaker 2: No, I'm exciting because I think at least Evil will

2372
01:39:59,520 --> 01:40:03,199
see like one to two many more. But we'll get

2373
01:40:03,239 --> 01:40:05,319
some new characters soon, so we'll get some confirmations on

2374
01:40:05,359 --> 01:40:06,920
a couple of these seas and see what's happened.

2375
01:40:06,920 --> 01:40:09,600
Speaker 1: I'm expecting that this week. And maybe I'm getting hype

2376
01:40:09,640 --> 01:40:11,880
because they had the like I said, they had the

2377
01:40:11,920 --> 01:40:14,199
developer direct and didn't even a character there, so I

2378
01:40:14,199 --> 01:40:16,159
don't know. It could not be the case, but I

2379
01:40:16,159 --> 01:40:17,920
think they're showing like the game is gonna be playable

2380
01:40:17,960 --> 01:40:19,600
at EVO as well, so it seemed like a good

2381
01:40:19,640 --> 01:40:21,760
time to show some of that off. And yeah, of

2382
01:40:21,800 --> 01:40:24,000
course this game's gonna be a bit of way twenty

2383
01:40:24,079 --> 01:40:25,520
twenty six, but I think this is a good time

2384
01:40:25,560 --> 01:40:27,399
to do this before we get any more characters, so

2385
01:40:27,439 --> 01:40:31,000
we can really steal on this with every every subsequent announcement.

2386
01:40:31,039 --> 01:40:33,079
So I can't wait for this game. This is a

2387
01:40:33,159 --> 01:40:35,359
super fun episode at Travis. Thank you for joining me

2388
01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:37,199
of course, and we will be back again next week.

2389
01:40:37,239 --> 01:40:40,000
You talk about it direct and other bunch of other things.

2390
01:40:40,159 --> 01:40:42,680
Should be a good time. Confetti, fireworks in the sky.

2391
01:40:43,079 --> 01:40:44,840
Thank you everyone for listening and we'll see you again

2392
01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:46,039
next time. Bye bye