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<v Speaker 1>It's stick Gabriel taking a little bit of time off,

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<v Speaker 1>so we thought we would replay some of the best

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<v Speaker 1>interviews from over the last several months. Please enjoy the

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<v Speaker 1>best of the Big Blue Insider And man, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what it is. Kentucky gets to host a regional

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<v Speaker 1>and gets one of the toughest draws in the regional

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<v Speaker 1>and has to be the visiting team twice in his

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<v Speaker 1>own home ballpark. I can see that once, but twice?

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, Well, now here comes Oregon State. Really good

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<v Speaker 1>program which has won three World Series titles within the

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<v Speaker 1>last well since six was it six seven and twenty eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been to the World Series nine times. So the

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<v Speaker 1>Beavers come across country and they will play at six

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<v Speaker 1>o'clock Saturday, nine o'clock Sunday. It's best out of three.

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<v Speaker 1>Then if they need the third game, of course, they'll

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<v Speaker 1>play it on Monday. But the Sunday game is at

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<v Speaker 1>nine pm and both games are on ESPN. You so

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<v Speaker 1>you got a smaller audience for the number two seed

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<v Speaker 1>now and a nine o'clock start. Well, if they're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to accommodate people on the West coast, that is a

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<v Speaker 1>TV programmer's way of thinking, because of course that's six

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<v Speaker 1>o'clock out there, but it's a slap in the face

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<v Speaker 1>to the host team. The other thing is, and I

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<v Speaker 1>get this from me, and we'll talk to our West

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<v Speaker 1>Coast Bureau Chief, Gary Moore about this tomorrow, who lived

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<v Speaker 1>in LA for more than twenty years. One of my

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<v Speaker 1>closest friends lives out there, and they have both told

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<v Speaker 1>me that West Coast people don't worry about East Coast

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<v Speaker 1>times for sporting events nearly as much as we think

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<v Speaker 1>they do. In fact, this Gary has told us when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes say to the NFL, they like it because

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<v Speaker 1>let's say your team will be it a West Coast

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<v Speaker 1>team or a team you follow has got a one

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<v Speaker 1>o'clock start in the NFL, it's ten am out there.

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<v Speaker 1>You watch the game, then you go on with the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of your day. If you're an Oregon State fan,

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<v Speaker 1>if the game were a three in the afternoon, which

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<v Speaker 1>would be six o'clock here, win or lose, you got

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<v Speaker 1>half your day left or a great part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's just man, it's very frustrating, but at least

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<v Speaker 1>your home you're playing in a super regional for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time in program history. By the way, there was

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<v Speaker 1>something that came up and I just made mention of

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<v Speaker 1>it last night on the show, but I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>spend a little more time with it because this team,

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<v Speaker 1>this Kentucky team with the dugout antics and the personalities,

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<v Speaker 1>is so interesting and fun to follow. And as many

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, I've gotten to travel with the team

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit through the years, filling in on the radio,

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<v Speaker 1>first for Neil Price, now for Darren Hedrick. And this

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<v Speaker 1>year this is new. This year I noticed that, I

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<v Speaker 1>think when I was on the bus with a team

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<v Speaker 1>down in Round Rock, Texas. But I believe they've been

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<v Speaker 1>doing it all year, and they've done a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff in the dugout. This is not a dugout thing.

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<v Speaker 1>This is when they're all kind of bunched together. They

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<v Speaker 1>might do it at other times, but they definitely do

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<v Speaker 1>it on the bus. And the bus is like a

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<v Speaker 1>rolling locker room. You know, they're laughing, they're joking, they're

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<v Speaker 1>cutting up. They're using some language you might not want

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<v Speaker 1>your kids to hear. And Nick has said, and Nick

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<v Speaker 1>is not that kind of guy when it comes to language,

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<v Speaker 1>but he has said he kind of turns a death

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<v Speaker 1>bear to it because it's their locker room. It's not horrible,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just, you know, nineteen twenty twenty one year old

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<v Speaker 1>guys get together and say things sometimes. But one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things they do is they mimic what Dak Prescott

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<v Speaker 1>does for the Dallas Cowboys. Just before the ball is snapped,

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<v Speaker 1>he'll call his audibles, he'll set protection, but just to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure the team knows everything's good, we're ready to

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<v Speaker 1>get going, he'll yell here we go, and he kind

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<v Speaker 1>of chants it. It sounds like this, here we go, here.

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<v Speaker 2>We go, Here we go, Here we go, Here we go,

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<v Speaker 2>here we go, Here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a bunch of them I strung together. But Nick

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<v Speaker 1>Benione made direct reference to this after the game. On

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<v Speaker 1>after the championship game the other night, in the postgame

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<v Speaker 1>press conference, when people Aaron Gershan asked Mason more, the

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<v Speaker 1>pitcher who had been so sick, when did you know

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<v Speaker 1>you could pitch? When did you know you'd be physically

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<v Speaker 1>the game, went back to the room and had an

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<v Speaker 1>IVY and was just trying to recover. Nick jumped in

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<v Speaker 1>with a story about a text message you got from Mason.

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<v Speaker 1>That night at.

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<v Speaker 3>Seven thirty six, my phone goes off. It's a text

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<v Speaker 3>message for Mason.

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<v Speaker 4>This is what he said, here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you didn't get that right away, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>that was all about, was how that's one of their

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<v Speaker 1>deals on the bus and probably elsewhere is every now

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<v Speaker 1>and then. I don't know why I didn't want to ask,

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<v Speaker 1>but at times somebody will just yell here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>And evidently that was the battle cry for Mason Moore

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<v Speaker 1>when he texted his coach to let him go. No,

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<v Speaker 1>he'd be ready to go, and certainly he was putting

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<v Speaker 1>up nothing but goose egg. It's going to be tough

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<v Speaker 1>to do that against Oregon State. We'll talk more about

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<v Speaker 1>the Beavers as the weekend gets closer. We'll try to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to some folks from out there in Oregon as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and a reminder small world. Before he became the athletics

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<v Speaker 1>director at the University of Kentucky, Mitch Barnhardt for four

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<v Speaker 1>years was the ad at Oregon State. So I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>there'll be some chatter about that throughout the week as well.

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<v Speaker 1>We're listening to the best of the Big Blue Insider.

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<v Speaker 1>More to come here on six thirty WLAP. It's Dick Gabriel.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the best of the Big Blue Insider.

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<v Speaker 1>That is the word of the day in the Big

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<v Speaker 1>Boe Nation because their baseball team is heading for the

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<v Speaker 1>College World Series for the first time in program history.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Big Boon Sider, Dick Gabriel, with you

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<v Speaker 1>still a little bleary eyed after last night's nine o'clock

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<v Speaker 1>start and then a postgame press conference that ended. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we walked out of there at about about two

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<v Speaker 1>point fifteen am, you know, and by the time you

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<v Speaker 1>get home and get unpacked and try to get some sleep,

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<v Speaker 1>it's three o'clock in the morning, at least for me.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're up and around and we're thinking about the

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<v Speaker 1>College World Series now. For the first time, the Kentucky

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<v Speaker 1>Wildcats win a Super Regional and beat a really good

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<v Speaker 1>Oregon State team by holding the Beavers to two runs

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<v Speaker 1>that they got last night without benefit of a hit,

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<v Speaker 1>and three hits over the two games, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>record for the Super Regional format, which now is in

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<v Speaker 1>his twenty fifth year. The previous record one of the

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<v Speaker 1>Vandy Great Vandy pitching staffs held an opponent to five

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<v Speaker 1>hits over two games. So the Kentucky pitching staff, which

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<v Speaker 1>had been I don't want to say much maligned, but

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<v Speaker 1>somewhat maligned down the stretch, came through in a huge

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<v Speaker 1>way in both the Regional and the Super Regional. So

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<v Speaker 1>now the Wildcats will go to Omaha. And they shut

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<v Speaker 1>it down last night on a call third strike delivered

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<v Speaker 1>by relief pitcher Johnny Hummel, who picked up the save.

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<v Speaker 1>And here is how Darren hedrickcalled it on the UK

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Network.

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<v Speaker 5>Hummel's pitch colt strike three.

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<v Speaker 6>Ball game over. The wait is finally over.

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<v Speaker 5>Roll out the big blue carpet and Omaha, the University

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<v Speaker 5>of Kentucky Wildcats are headed.

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<v Speaker 2>To the College World Series.

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<v Speaker 5>Kentucky defeats Oregon State three to two. They flood the

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<v Speaker 5>field from that third base stugout and dog pile to

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<v Speaker 1>And it's worth noting there was no dog pile after

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<v Speaker 1>the regional. There was last year and Nick menze own

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<v Speaker 1>back in twenty seventeen when before really before the season began,

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<v Speaker 1>one of his goals was to see his team in

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<v Speaker 1>a dog pile. He said, I love dog piles because

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<v Speaker 1>it means They've just accomplished something, something great. So there

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<v Speaker 1>was a dog pile. Then in seventeen when they won

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<v Speaker 1>the regional, there was one. Last year when they won

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<v Speaker 1>the regional. There was not one this year because they

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<v Speaker 1>knew they wanted so much more and they knew they

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<v Speaker 1>were going to host a super regional. And it was

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<v Speaker 1>on this day in twenty seventeen today, seven years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>that Kentucky opened Super Regional play at Louisville and got

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<v Speaker 1>spanked a couple times by the Cardinals. Really good U

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<v Speaker 1>OFL team, But I covered the game and I sat

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<v Speaker 1>there thinking, you know, you've got to get a super

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<v Speaker 1>Regional of your own. I mean, it's just so hard

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<v Speaker 1>to win on the road in a super Seventy percent

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<v Speaker 1>of a time the host team wins in the super Regional,

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<v Speaker 1>which is as it should be, I think. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the home team ought to have an advantage. They've earned it,

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<v Speaker 1>so obviously did Kentucky, and they did not have much

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<v Speaker 1>of a shot last year when they were sent to

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<v Speaker 1>the Baton Rouge Superregional to play top ranked LSU, which

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<v Speaker 1>went on to win the national championship. So they earn

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<v Speaker 1>the right to host this year and they make it

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<v Speaker 1>payoff with a win over really good as I said,

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<v Speaker 1>Oregon State team and the winning run last night. Of

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<v Speaker 1>course ten nothing the night before, but the winning run

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<v Speaker 1>last night scored on a bizarre play. Some people say,

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<v Speaker 1>have never seen it before. I've seen it, but I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen it like at the little league level. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is not to demean Oregon State. It was just a

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<v Speaker 1>bizarre play. A strike three, swinging strike by Grant Smith

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<v Speaker 1>frankly on a bad pitch. It was a great pitch,

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<v Speaker 1>but bad for Grant down and end and the catcher

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't handle it and then bounced away from him. But

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<v Speaker 1>it bounced at such an angle that the catcher had

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<v Speaker 1>to go so far to get the ball. He couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>make it back to the plate. Nolan McCarthy on second base. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>round third runs through Nick Minsi and yelling stop. Didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have his hands up, but he yelled stop. But McCarthy

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<v Speaker 1>could see that the catcher was still busy chasing down

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<v Speaker 1>the ball, and he saw that the pitcher failed to

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<v Speaker 1>cover the plate. If you're a pitcher, and this happened

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<v Speaker 1>to me many times because I threw a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>bad pitches, if there's a guy on third and the

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<v Speaker 1>ball you saw a bad pitch, he gets away from

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<v Speaker 1>the catcher. You race to the plate, hoping that you

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<v Speaker 1>can keep the guy from scoring. Well, runner was on second,

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<v Speaker 1>so the pitcher obviously didn't give it a second thought

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<v Speaker 1>at first that he needed to cover the plate and

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<v Speaker 1>that's all McCarthy needed. In fact, the catcher beat the

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<v Speaker 1>pitcher to the play. He was closest to McCarthy when

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<v Speaker 1>Nolan slid in, but Nolan took flight. It wasn't as

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<v Speaker 1>much a slide as it was a dive. Here's the

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<v Speaker 1>way Darren called it at Keith Madison, the Hall of

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<v Speaker 1>Fame coach alongside.

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<v Speaker 5>Two two game in the seventh the two and he

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<v Speaker 5>struck him out, but the ball got away from Weber.

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<v Speaker 5>McCarthy to third. There's nobody at covering the play. It's

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<v Speaker 5>a foot rice height times across safe. Nobody covered home

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<v Speaker 5>for Oregon State and McCarthy scores from second as graft

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<v Speaker 5>Smith arrives at first. What's a three to two Kentucky lead.

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<v Speaker 4>What a heads up play by McCarthy. The pitcher was

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<v Speaker 4>lackadaisical about covering home and McCarthy never slowed down. He

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, like he's always being crazy as sent as

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<v Speaker 9>I don't know what he's doing. He was like looking

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, we were, we were in the bullpen, and I

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<v Speaker 10>was like I was I was watching when we were

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<v Speaker 10>sudden I see him die. I'm like, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 10>he just did the Peter ros die like that was awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I remember that. You know.

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<v Speaker 10>It just shows how gritty we are and how we're

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<v Speaker 10>willing to do everything it takes to win. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>and what a performance he had out of the bullpen,

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<v Speaker 1>along with Cam O'Brien, Johnny Hummel, Ryan hagen Ow. The

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<v Speaker 1>regional So that's why the Wildcats one of several reasons

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<v Speaker 1>the Wildcats are going to Omaha. A big reason last

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<v Speaker 1>night is you all the fans BBN showed up and

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<v Speaker 1>and nobody left. I mean, you knew it was going

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<v Speaker 1>for the most part, they wanted to see the celebration.

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<v Speaker 1>They were treated to a great game. Not a lot

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<v Speaker 1>night before, ten to nothing battering Oregon State, but last night.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the best kind of baseball really, when both teams

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<v Speaker 1>are in it and every pitch matters, as it did

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<v Speaker 1>last night, and the crowd was rewarded. And the crowd

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<v Speaker 1>did its part, clapping along with the walk up music

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<v Speaker 1>and trying to help their players, trying to influence the

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<v Speaker 1>So it was a great night for UK fans and

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<v Speaker 1>obviously for the program, which got off to a great

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<v Speaker 1>start this year. Fifteen to one in conference play. You've

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<v Speaker 1>State came in. If you're a Kansas State player, you're

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<v Speaker 1>watching Kentucky celebrate going to the College World Series and

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<v Speaker 1>you're thinking, and we kicked their butts. We took two

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<v Speaker 1>out of three in Lexington and outscored him twenty to three.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was or twenty one to three, something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. But that's where the reset began for the

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<v Speaker 1>hear from Mitch Barnhart. I grabbed him right early this

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<v Speaker 1>morning after that press conference just to get his thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>about the fact that Mitch didn't fire Nick Benjie on

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<v Speaker 1>when a lot of us thought he either might after

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<v Speaker 1>that twenty two season, or you know, Nick might be

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<v Speaker 1>walking on eggshells, and Nick knew it as well. He

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<v Speaker 1>has talked a lot, and he went deep last night

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<v Speaker 1>the toughest times after that year where they were one

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<v Speaker 1>game short twenty twenty two of getting to the postseason.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically he had lost two of his best pictures, Cole

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<v Speaker 1>Stupp and Darren Williams, who's going to be with us

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<v Speaker 1>on the show tomorrow night. So Mitch and I talk

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<v Speaker 1>about that. That's coming up in hour number two. And

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<v Speaker 1>on a personal note, I'm so happy for Keith Madison,

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<v Speaker 1>who worked alongside Darren. As I mentioned you're listening to

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<v Speaker 1>the best of the Big Blue Insider. More to come

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<v Speaker 1>here on six thirty WLAP. It's Dick Gabriel. Welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>to the Best of the Big Blue Insider. After the

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<v Speaker 1>news conference early this morning, and I mean, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>two o'clock in the morning, I was walking out and

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<v Speaker 1>who was standing there congratulating people with his family. Mitch Barnhardt,

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<v Speaker 1>the Kentucky athletics director who oversaw the construction of the stadium,

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<v Speaker 1>hired nickman Gione and did not pull the trigger when

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of ads might have when his baseball coach

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<v Speaker 1>was struggling, but he stayed with him and now they

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<v Speaker 1>are reaping the rewards, the benefits. And I had a

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<v Speaker 11>Truly remarkable for a group of young men that found

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<v Speaker 11>every possible way to win a ball game. And we've

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<v Speaker 11>seen him from every different way to win this way tonight,

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<v Speaker 11>as Nick described in his press conference, probably pretty remarkable

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<v Speaker 11>and pretty accurate. To scratch out a win with four

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<v Speaker 11>hits on a play that was destined for failure and

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<v Speaker 11>it turns into success by attacking and understanding the game

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<v Speaker 11>and playing it at a high level.

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<v Speaker 1>How fitting is it that that play puts you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there are a lot of players that's the

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<v Speaker 1>a world series. Yeah, no, I think it's great fitting.

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<v Speaker 11>I mean, and it fitting for it comes from a

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<v Speaker 11>and and loves this program and so happy for him.

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<v Speaker 11>But you know that the guy sitting behind the plate

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<v Speaker 11>And when you think about us being up the middle,

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<v Speaker 11>middle in every sport. Devin Brooks, p d Grant, Nolan.

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<v Speaker 11>It doesn't get much better up the middle than those

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<v Speaker 11>four and just super super amazing. How you when you

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<v Speaker 11>build it that way, you're intentional about it, it works.

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<v Speaker 11>And then you trust your players to play the game

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<v Speaker 11>really hard and understand that the team is the team

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<v Speaker 11>and you've earned victory every day and you attack And

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<v Speaker 11>those are things that Nick talks about it. I'm us

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<v Speaker 11>as administrators, we're run and we hear him talk about it,

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<v Speaker 11>so it doesn't change. He's what you heard tonight was

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<v Speaker 11>he is real when he says the things that he says.

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<v Speaker 11>And so he has built this program with some intentionality

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<v Speaker 11>about about that. And super proud of him and what

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<v Speaker 11>at the end of the day, he he worked so

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<v Speaker 11>hard at it, and it's it was a it was

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<v Speaker 11>a tough spot two or three years ago, and he

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<v Speaker 11>flipped the script and it's just awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>The crowds start pouring into this place in Earnest really

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<v Speaker 1>for Tennessee and the vandying in the regionals. When you

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<v Speaker 1>who were instrumental in building this place and hiring him

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<v Speaker 1>and all, when you see all this come together, what

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<v Speaker 11>Oh, I'm just so happy for Kentucky. You know, I

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<v Speaker 11>say it, you know I say it all the time.

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<v Speaker 11>I Uh, I'm super happy for our program and our players.

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<v Speaker 11>I'm super happy for our fans, our fans. You know,

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<v Speaker 11>you hear when you come to Kentucky. Hey, and Nick's right,

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<v Speaker 11>they say things you can't do that you're you'll never

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<v Speaker 11>get there. You guys don't. You're not in the conversation.

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<v Speaker 11>And so I'm happy for our fans. You know, I'm

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<v Speaker 11>tired of hearing the graphic. We're the only sc school

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<v Speaker 11>never to have been check that box and get it

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<v Speaker 11>rid of it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we're done.

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<v Speaker 11>We don't need to hear that anymore, you know, And

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<v Speaker 11>so I'm happy for them. You know, I'm an older

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<v Speaker 11>a nice way.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a lot of.

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<v Speaker 11>Wonderful things to celebrate in my career. One more thing

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<v Speaker 11>is a really nice one more thing. This was special

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<v Speaker 11>because it meant so many things to such a variety

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<v Speaker 11>of people in a place where you know that loves

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<v Speaker 11>this university very very much. And uh, it was so

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<v Speaker 11>evident tonight. It's a nine o'clock star, for Pete's sake.

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<v Speaker 11>And it was packed, I mean packed.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, other people, other people, other people are announcing record

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<v Speaker 11>crowds and anything like that. They didn't have our record crowd,

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<v Speaker 11>you know. And this is you know, you hear about

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<v Speaker 11>LSU in the box. Unbelievable place, pretty stinking good here tonight.

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<v Speaker 11>The crowd was into it. Amazing. I thought our staff,

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<v Speaker 11>And I want to commend my staff. They have worked tirelessly.

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<v Speaker 11>They've had ns double a's, they've had high school championships,

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<v Speaker 11>So thankful for them. They're exhausted as much as the

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<v Speaker 11>That was beautiful, and that was beautiful. That's what it meant.

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<v Speaker 11>And then you did it for them too, and that

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<v Speaker 1>People forget that you were at Oregon State. You had

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<v Speaker 1>coincidental that they were. I mean, you hired their playbook,

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<v Speaker 1>what the culture of winning baseball is like because you

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<v Speaker 1>experienced that firsthand out there. That kind of comes together, doesn't.

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<v Speaker 12>It, does.

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<v Speaker 1>You know?

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<v Speaker 11>Pat Casey taught me a lot about you know, I

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<v Speaker 11>was fortunately, I had been to the World Series. I

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<v Speaker 11>was on the baseball committee right and I was also

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<v Speaker 11>at Tennessee when we went a couple of times, and

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<v Speaker 11>so I had a feel, but never you know, you're

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<v Speaker 11>not as invested in it at that point in time,

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<v Speaker 11>and do you get to a spot where it I say,

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<v Speaker 11>the program's mind, it's not mine, but you know we're

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<v Speaker 11>working with it.

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<v Speaker 1>And so.

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<v Speaker 11>Never forget going to my first baseball game at Oregon

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<v Speaker 11>State in nineteen ninety eight and I was going up

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<v Speaker 11>the press pot stairs and the wood split and I

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<v Speaker 11>fell all the way to the ground. Fellow and Pat goes, see,

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<v Speaker 11>I told you we needed a new stadium. I said, yeah, buddy,

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<v Speaker 11>So we began to So we began to raise money

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<v Speaker 11>for a stadium. In case was far ahead of me.

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<v Speaker 11>He was already he was down the road. He knew

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<v Speaker 11>we needed it. So he was doing such amazing work

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<v Speaker 11>and an amazing guy. I talked to him this week.

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<v Speaker 11>I said, are you coming out? And he says, no,

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<v Speaker 11>I'm not going. I said, I'll miss you, man, And

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<v Speaker 11>so a lot of good friends I saw tonight. That

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<v Speaker 11>was really nice, and it was nice to see some

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<v Speaker 11>people and they thanked us for what we had done

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<v Speaker 11>at Oregon State. But that was the precursor. I learned

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<v Speaker 11>a lot in those first four or five years as

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<v Speaker 11>an athletic director, and that I was able to come

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<v Speaker 11>here and next right after a couple of decades worth

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<v Speaker 11>of being here, you sort of get a little scar tissued,

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<v Speaker 11>but you never want to lose the reason why you

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<v Speaker 11>do this thing. And in this age of transfer portals

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<v Speaker 11>and everything else that people are talking about nil and

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<v Speaker 11>what's my deal and all this stuff, those dudes.

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<v Speaker 2>Just play.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, they just.

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<v Speaker 1>You refer to the tough times. And I mean Nick

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<v Speaker 1>was was struggling, and he talked about that tonight and

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<v Speaker 1>he had to do a lot of self reflection. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes for an eighty though. And you and I have

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<v Speaker 1>talked about this, the best movie you make is the

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<v Speaker 1>when you don't. And you you've done that with coaches before.

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<v Speaker 1>Looking back on that time, I mean, what are your

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts on how he came through that, how you guys

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<v Speaker 1>came through it together?

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, I know, I think that there. You know, I

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<v Speaker 11>hope over time you know when it's right to just

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<v Speaker 11>hold them and when to fold them, you know, And

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<v Speaker 11>I traditionally you know that I've traditionally tried to hang

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<v Speaker 11>in there. You're conservative, yeah, and you know, and it's

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<v Speaker 11>there's certainly some there are some hard times. And I'll

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<v Speaker 11>say this, a lot of people won't take feedback that

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<v Speaker 11>that man. He will take feedback and he absorbs it.

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<v Speaker 11>He's a great learner, he's a great listener. And there's

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<v Speaker 11>no pride in that deal. He prideful people usually fail

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<v Speaker 11>people that are willing to accept feedback and accept and

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<v Speaker 11>our good listeners and learners. That's what he is. He's

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<v Speaker 11>a ferocious learner.

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<v Speaker 1>And you do that, you.

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<v Speaker 11>Will if you only if you're the smartest person in

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<v Speaker 11>the room all the time, that's a problem, yep.

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<v Speaker 1>And he is.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, and he will candidly admit he wants to learn

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<v Speaker 11>from other people. He does it every day and that's

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<v Speaker 11>what makes him great. Congratulations, thank you, great fun. Let's

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<v Speaker 11>go to Omaha.

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<v Speaker 1>And they are going to Omaha, and so is the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Blue Insider. I will be there as well. You

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<v Speaker 1>kidding me. I wouldn't miss that for anything. After covering

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<v Speaker 1>this program since well since the seventies, you're listening to

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<v Speaker 1>the best of the Big Blue Insider. More to come

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<v Speaker 1>here on six thirty w LAP It's Dick Gabriel. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back to the best of the Big Blue Insider.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's a swinging of drive today. Blaft Beck goes Nixon.

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<v Speaker 5>Looking up daily win It, Daily wins It, Daily wins It.

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<v Speaker 5>Kentucky defeats it Ceast five.

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<v Speaker 6>To four on a walk off home run five.

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<v Speaker 1>Mitchell Dailey, Welcome to the Big Blue in Cider. Dick

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<v Speaker 1>Gabriel with you on a Monday. It is all about

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<v Speaker 1>o Maha, my friends. The Wildcats winning their opener in

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<v Speaker 1>the College World Series, first time they've ever played here,

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<v Speaker 1>and they went it in dramatic fashion. The Big Blue

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<v Speaker 1>Nations had a couple of days to digest it. Next

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<v Speaker 1>game is coming up in just a few minutes. Darren

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<v Speaker 1>Hedrick is going to have the pregame for you at

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<v Speaker 1>six forty five, and then at seven o'clock it's Kentucky

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<v Speaker 1>and Texas. A and M. Will set that matchup for

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<v Speaker 1>you in just a minute. But I thought we would

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<v Speaker 1>relive some of those moments from the other day when

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<v Speaker 1>the Wildcats knocked off came from behind for the first

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<v Speaker 1>time in postseason, and beat NC State. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>game to saw Kentucky take the early lead and then

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<v Speaker 1>went up three to one after State came back and

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<v Speaker 1>tied it at one, and then State takes the lead

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<v Speaker 1>on a wild pitch man ninh thinning, Kentucky dramatically ties

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<v Speaker 1>it up in the bottom of the ninth Ryan Nicholson

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<v Speaker 1>with a home run and then Mitchell Daily with a

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<v Speaker 1>home run and the tenth inning to send the Wildcats

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<v Speaker 1>back to the hotel. They got to walk back to

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<v Speaker 1>the hotel through the fans as winners. And it's so

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<v Speaker 1>incredible the way this thing happened. With Ryan Nicholson hitting

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<v Speaker 1>a very unlikely pitch out of the ballpark in an

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<v Speaker 1>unlikely way down the line, hits the foul pole. Nicholson

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<v Speaker 1>was brought here to hit home runs, and as you

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<v Speaker 1>may know by now, really struggled at first to hit

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<v Speaker 1>him out of the ballpark for the Wildcats, but then

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<v Speaker 1>found his stroke and now he's hitting home runs as

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<v Speaker 1>well as anybody in the Southeastern Conference, at least the

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<v Speaker 1>teams that are left standing. But as Nick Minzione pointed

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<v Speaker 1>out at his postgame news conference, Nicholson was like third

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<v Speaker 1>or fourth in the league in just league games in

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<v Speaker 1>home runs a league he did, of course, had Charlie

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<v Speaker 1>Condon and Christian Moore and guys like that, So not

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<v Speaker 1>only a home run hitter, but a clutch home run hitter.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Mitchell Daily transferred in from Texas. Nicholson from Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 1>where he was a home run hitter. Daily comes in

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<v Speaker 1>from Texas where his career had just kind of fizzled

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. Freshman All American in the next two

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<v Speaker 1>years he struggled. They recruited over him, even though he

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<v Speaker 1>did play in two College World Series with the Longhorns. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>now he's back and has a memory, of course, that

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<v Speaker 1>the Big Blue Nation will never forget. We're gonna hear

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<v Speaker 1>all the highlights coming up from Darren Hedrick a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit later on. Highlights from the entire game, and of

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<v Speaker 1>course Nick Lopez and an RBI single. Just a phenomenal

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<v Speaker 1>performance in a really good baseball game. Both teams played well,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Wildcats survive in Advance A and M survives

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<v Speaker 1>in Advance. So these two teams play tonight. We'll go

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<v Speaker 1>over the entire schedule coming up a little bit later

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<v Speaker 1>on as well, but we need to hear from the Wildcats.

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<v Speaker 1>You may have heard some of this over the weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>but Mitchell Daily talked about his home run and it

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty interesting. I thought that he got a tip

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<v Speaker 1>from an assistant coach and he made it work.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, I was just trying to back the ball up.

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<v Speaker 8>I was just trying to see the slider up. And

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<v Speaker 8>Kuzie said, you know, he leaves it up sometimes, and

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<v Speaker 8>I saw it up and I just went for it.

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<v Speaker 1>So Kuzzi is assistant coach. Austin cousin of the former

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky All American outfielder, joined the staff as an assistant.

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<v Speaker 1>This is his first year, and gave him the tip

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<v Speaker 1>watch for the slider up. And that's exactly what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>All of these fireworks happened, as I said, after NC

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<v Speaker 1>State had taken the lead in the top of the

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<v Speaker 1>ninth inning. So just before the bottom of the ninth inning,

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Amuratti, the bench coach, the hitting coach, offensive coordinator,

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<v Speaker 1>pulled the Wildcats together and the dugout had a quick

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<v Speaker 1>word and had paid off.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, Emo just brought us together and he was like, Hey,

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<v Speaker 8>this is what we play for.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, let's let's let's have some fun.

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<v Speaker 6>Let's do this.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, don't try to.

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<v Speaker 8>Do the whole message throughout the entire day from coach managing,

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<v Speaker 8>from the rest of the coaching staffs, don't try.

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<v Speaker 6>To do more.

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<v Speaker 8>Just keep being us and I like, like Ron said,

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<v Speaker 8>we got so much confidence in each other. And when

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<v Speaker 8>he hit that home run, nobody was surprised.

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<v Speaker 1>There were three home runs in the game. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>don't forget about Nolan McCarthy's. He got Kentucky on the

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<v Speaker 1>board first. But you've got Nicholson a rather daily batting

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<v Speaker 1>in a five hole, Nicholson in the six hole, and

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<v Speaker 1>McCarthy batting seven. And those are the three guys who

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<v Speaker 1>went yard throughout the course of the ball game. And

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, they produced seven of Kentucky's nine base hits.

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<v Speaker 1>And Nicholson talked about that, about the fact that they've

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<v Speaker 1>got talent at the top of the order, but they've

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<v Speaker 1>got talent at the bottom of the order as well. Well.

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<v Speaker 13>I think it just happened to be us today. Our lineup, man,

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<v Speaker 13>it's so deep. You get so much production, you know,

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<v Speaker 13>from everyone up and down the lineup. Like I don't

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<v Speaker 13>even like Waldly probably would tell you he didn't have

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<v Speaker 13>his best day. I mean, just wait till he, you know,

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<v Speaker 13>gets hot. But you know, it just happened to be,

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<v Speaker 13>you know, just the string of guys today, and it

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<v Speaker 13>could be so many different tomorrow, like I Orchell could

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<v Speaker 13>not have it the next day, but somebody else is

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<v Speaker 13>going to pick up a slack. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 13>what this lineup and ball club do really well. And

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<v Speaker 13>you know, everyone has the utmost confidence in the guy

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<v Speaker 13>behind him and the guy in front of him, and

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<v Speaker 13>I think you know that votes well for us.

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<v Speaker 1>Since we've been in Omaha, there's been a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>chatter out here among other media members and some of

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<v Speaker 1>the coaches about the way Kentucky plays, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's wrong to call it small ball, but there are

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<v Speaker 1>so many different ways this Kentucky team could hurt you.

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<v Speaker 1>And Nick Minjione after the ball game reminded ever he

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<v Speaker 1>talked about it before the game in Kentucky's first news

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<v Speaker 1>conference out of here. He's talked about it all year, really,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's what's been really about this ball club. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the special elements to this team is the many

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<v Speaker 1>different ways it is capable of hurting the other team.

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<v Speaker 1>And we saw that on display in the win over

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<v Speaker 1>NC State.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, we bought it, we stole some bases, we hit homers,

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<v Speaker 3>and you have heard me say this over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>We are whatever it takes type of offense.

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<v Speaker 3>And I thought today showed that buns, homers, two strike, hitting, walks,

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<v Speaker 3>you name it, it was, and that when a park

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<v Speaker 3>plays like this, now you got.

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<v Speaker 2>To be able to do all that. So I was

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<v Speaker 2>proud of them for that effort.

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<v Speaker 1>As I mentioned, nicksmon talking about this all year, and

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<v Speaker 1>I've got to disclose to you a conversation he and

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<v Speaker 1>I had early in the year. This was right when

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<v Speaker 1>they got into conference play, and I believe it was yeah,

631
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<v Speaker 1>it was going into it as the first Georgia game.

632
00:33:47.960 --> 00:33:50.400
<v Speaker 1>Doug Flinn and I did the game on the SEC

633
00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:55.759
<v Speaker 1>Network streaming channel, and we had the conference stats in

634
00:33:55.799 --> 00:33:59.200
<v Speaker 1>front of us, which were primarily non conference games for

635
00:33:59.240 --> 00:34:02.720
<v Speaker 1>all the teams, and offensively, Kentucky was added near the

636
00:34:02.759 --> 00:34:07.079
<v Speaker 1>bottom in many many categories, added near the top in pitching.

637
00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:11.719
<v Speaker 1>Wildcat pitching was tremendous preconference. It was good throughout conference play.

638
00:34:11.800 --> 00:34:15.480
<v Speaker 1>But offensively, the Wildcats weren't racking up, you know, the

639
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:18.519
<v Speaker 1>video game numbers that some of the other teams had,

640
00:34:18.559 --> 00:34:21.760
<v Speaker 1>and frankly some video game numbers types of numbers that

641
00:34:21.920 --> 00:34:26.280
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky's had in the past, because the Wildcats were creating offense.

642
00:34:26.360 --> 00:34:30.079
<v Speaker 1>But Doug and I did call it small ball and

643
00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:32.639
<v Speaker 1>we talked about the fact that the Wildcats were winning

644
00:34:33.119 --> 00:34:35.719
<v Speaker 1>by playing small ball. Yeah, Georgia was hitting a ton

645
00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:38.239
<v Speaker 1>of home runs, Tennessee was hitting a ton of home runs,

646
00:34:38.440 --> 00:34:42.800
<v Speaker 1>but Kentucky was creating ways to score well. I get

647
00:34:42.840 --> 00:34:45.440
<v Speaker 1>a text message from Nick, I don't think he mightd

648
00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:48.280
<v Speaker 1>be telling you this, and asked me to come see

649
00:34:48.320 --> 00:34:52.119
<v Speaker 1>him before the next ball game. I can't remember which one,

650
00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:54.840
<v Speaker 1>but I thought, Man, did I say something that that

651
00:34:55.039 --> 00:34:58.400
<v Speaker 1>was off color or offensive or something like that? They

652
00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:00.800
<v Speaker 1>got back to him. While the entry was no, it

653
00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:04.880
<v Speaker 1>was simply that Nick had heard that we were talking

654
00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:07.480
<v Speaker 1>about the team, and sometimes the players go back and

655
00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:11.360
<v Speaker 1>watch the games. But Nick, in fact knew that we

656
00:35:11.400 --> 00:35:14.079
<v Speaker 1>were talking about the offense that way, and he simply

657
00:35:14.119 --> 00:35:17.000
<v Speaker 1>pointed out to me. He said, we're an offense that

658
00:35:17.119 --> 00:35:19.760
<v Speaker 1>scores in so many different ways. You know. It was

659
00:35:19.960 --> 00:35:23.159
<v Speaker 1>essentially what you just heard him talking about. He said,

660
00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:25.880
<v Speaker 1>We're a do whatever it takes kind of offense. And

661
00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:28.599
<v Speaker 1>I got to thinking, you know what this was after

662
00:35:28.599 --> 00:35:32.119
<v Speaker 1>the Georgia series was over, and I said to him,

663
00:35:32.159 --> 00:35:33.760
<v Speaker 1>you know what, come to think of it, You guys

664
00:35:34.079 --> 00:35:37.880
<v Speaker 1>out Homer Georgia, which was the big, bad home running

665
00:35:38.239 --> 00:35:41.400
<v Speaker 1>home run hitting team that up to that point and

666
00:35:41.480 --> 00:35:45.000
<v Speaker 1>really was all year long thanks to Charlie Condon, who

667
00:35:45.119 --> 00:35:48.559
<v Speaker 1>out here in Omaha won the Dick Howser Trophy from

668
00:35:48.599 --> 00:35:51.679
<v Speaker 1>being Player of the Year. So I said, yep, okay,

669
00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:55.079
<v Speaker 1>we will talk about your offense in a different way.

670
00:35:55.119 --> 00:35:57.239
<v Speaker 1>He wasn't mad at me, but he just wanted to

671
00:35:57.239 --> 00:36:01.639
<v Speaker 1>remind me that they could score with doubles, they could

672
00:36:01.639 --> 00:36:05.519
<v Speaker 1>score with home runs. It wasn't always bunts and sackflies.

673
00:36:06.199 --> 00:36:10.079
<v Speaker 1>And sure enough he was right. And so I asked him,

674
00:36:10.199 --> 00:36:12.320
<v Speaker 1>as a follow up question of the comment you just

675
00:36:12.360 --> 00:36:16.239
<v Speaker 1>heard about, how proud he might be because his team

676
00:36:16.280 --> 00:36:19.400
<v Speaker 1>has been able to accomplish so much with this well

677
00:36:19.480 --> 00:36:20.280
<v Speaker 1>rounded offense.

678
00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:24.960
<v Speaker 3>When we get production up and down our lineup, that's

679
00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:26.639
<v Speaker 3>us at our best, and we can do it in

680
00:36:26.719 --> 00:36:29.159
<v Speaker 3>all different ways. And you know what, there's a lot

681
00:36:29.159 --> 00:36:30.360
<v Speaker 3>of coaching that goes into that.

682
00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:30.960
<v Speaker 2>But for the.

683
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:33.559
<v Speaker 3>Players to be able to execute all those different things,

684
00:36:34.159 --> 00:36:37.320
<v Speaker 3>we have to be very intentional. And I just want

685
00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:39.440
<v Speaker 3>to make sure that everybody knows it's not all about bunting,

686
00:36:39.599 --> 00:36:42.239
<v Speaker 3>like the whatever it takes type of offense, like please,

687
00:36:42.599 --> 00:36:45.440
<v Speaker 3>because bunning is a small piece to it. But to

688
00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:48.320
<v Speaker 3>your point, we can hit homers two And.

689
00:36:48.280 --> 00:36:51.320
<v Speaker 1>He told the story of a quote. He loves quotes

690
00:36:51.559 --> 00:36:56.119
<v Speaker 1>that fits situations, and he brought up Oral Hersheiser, who

691
00:36:56.280 --> 00:36:59.760
<v Speaker 1>broke the Major league record for consecutive innings pitch scoreless

692
00:36:59.800 --> 00:37:05.159
<v Speaker 1>in pitched and he loved what Herscheizer had to say

693
00:37:05.360 --> 00:37:07.760
<v Speaker 1>about his mental approach to that streak.

694
00:37:08.280 --> 00:37:09.920
<v Speaker 3>And I think it was at the time, I don't

695
00:37:09.920 --> 00:37:12.599
<v Speaker 3>even know I is it fifty nine consecutive scoreless innings?

696
00:37:12.719 --> 00:37:15.800
<v Speaker 3>And they asked him how did you do that? How

697
00:37:15.800 --> 00:37:17.800
<v Speaker 3>did you do that? And he says, I didn't worry

698
00:37:17.800 --> 00:37:21.840
<v Speaker 3>about the results. I focused on the execution, so he wasn't.

699
00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:26.400
<v Speaker 3>And if when you have a team and you have

700
00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:28.440
<v Speaker 3>a season like we've had, and the reason why we

701
00:37:28.440 --> 00:37:30.440
<v Speaker 3>were able to go fourteen and one in the league

702
00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:32.199
<v Speaker 3>is because as soon as that win was over, it

703
00:37:32.280 --> 00:37:33.000
<v Speaker 3>men not expired.

704
00:37:33.039 --> 00:37:34.400
<v Speaker 2>As soon as they throw a pitch, it's over.

705
00:37:34.440 --> 00:37:36.079
<v Speaker 3>As soon as you take a pitch in that bad

706
00:37:36.159 --> 00:37:37.960
<v Speaker 3>it's over, and you have to move on as fast

707
00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:42.599
<v Speaker 3>as possible. And this goes the same for life, right,

708
00:37:42.719 --> 00:37:45.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean, if you are struggling. I had a sports

709
00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:48.239
<v Speaker 3>psychologist tell me one time, if you struggle with the president,

710
00:37:48.320 --> 00:37:50.159
<v Speaker 3>is because you live in the past, and there's times

711
00:37:50.199 --> 00:37:52.400
<v Speaker 3>where you just keep reliving moments and if you struggle

712
00:37:52.440 --> 00:37:53.599
<v Speaker 3>with anxiety, maybe you're.

713
00:37:53.440 --> 00:37:54.679
<v Speaker 2>Living in the future too much.

714
00:37:54.719 --> 00:37:58.039
<v Speaker 3>And in an age where everything in social media and

715
00:37:58.079 --> 00:38:01.239
<v Speaker 3>everything's in front of their face. It's just we have

716
00:38:01.440 --> 00:38:04.280
<v Speaker 3>gotten them to a spot where they can just move on.

717
00:38:04.440 --> 00:38:08.320
<v Speaker 3>So what like so what what now? Do something else?

718
00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:12.880
<v Speaker 3>So this team they have this unbelievable ability to just

719
00:38:13.000 --> 00:38:15.840
<v Speaker 3>move on to the next thing, regardless good or bad.

720
00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:17.519
<v Speaker 3>And then when you're able to do that and you

721
00:38:17.559 --> 00:38:21.119
<v Speaker 3>can move on quicker, you're able to do things like today.

722
00:38:21.159 --> 00:38:23.280
<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the best of the Big Blu Insider.

723
00:38:23.320 --> 00:39:01.239
<v Speaker 1>Our number two is next year on six point thirty WLAP. Hey,

724
00:39:01.239 --> 00:39:03.760
<v Speaker 1>it's Dick Gabrielle. Welcome back to the Big Blue Insider.

725
00:39:03.840 --> 00:39:06.679
<v Speaker 1>Our number two taking a little time off, so please

726
00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:10.159
<v Speaker 1>enjoy the best of the Big Blue Insider. And I

727
00:39:10.199 --> 00:39:13.119
<v Speaker 1>wanted to share with you some of the comments that

728
00:39:13.159 --> 00:39:17.559
<v Speaker 1>we heard from members of the nineteen eighty four Final

729
00:39:17.639 --> 00:39:21.519
<v Speaker 1>four team guys who were honored at halftime. And if

730
00:39:21.599 --> 00:39:23.519
<v Speaker 1>you were watching on TV, of course you didn't get

731
00:39:23.519 --> 00:39:26.239
<v Speaker 1>to see much, if at all. If you were at Ropperina,

732
00:39:26.679 --> 00:39:29.679
<v Speaker 1>it was a great event, although they only of course

733
00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:33.239
<v Speaker 1>have a few minutes at mid court to be introduced.

734
00:39:33.559 --> 00:39:36.360
<v Speaker 1>Sam Bowie made some great comments, and they had the

735
00:39:36.400 --> 00:39:41.400
<v Speaker 1>trophies out there, the SEC Tournament Trophy, the Regional Championship Trophy,

736
00:39:41.440 --> 00:39:45.960
<v Speaker 1>which to me, it's always interesting that the SEC Tournament

737
00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:50.519
<v Speaker 1>Trophy is like three times the size of the Regional Championship.

738
00:39:50.519 --> 00:39:53.639
<v Speaker 1>But I kind of liked that the trophies you get

739
00:39:53.920 --> 00:39:55.639
<v Speaker 1>for going to the final four and for winning it

740
00:39:55.920 --> 00:39:58.639
<v Speaker 1>are kind of understated, but I think they're kind of elegant.

741
00:39:59.199 --> 00:40:01.400
<v Speaker 1>And of course, that was the team that went three

742
00:40:01.559 --> 00:40:05.800
<v Speaker 1>for thirty three against Georgetown in the second half in

743
00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:09.000
<v Speaker 1>the semifinals. And you know, there was a point in

744
00:40:09.320 --> 00:40:13.960
<v Speaker 1>twenty well, I had to be twenty fourteen, back in

745
00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:17.719
<v Speaker 1>the day, not too long ago, that I was working

746
00:40:17.800 --> 00:40:21.760
<v Speaker 1>on a documentary about that team and about that game.

747
00:40:22.599 --> 00:40:27.440
<v Speaker 1>And the reason was it looked like Kentucky wasn't gonna

748
00:40:27.440 --> 00:40:30.920
<v Speaker 1>do much that year in the postseason. And there was

749
00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:33.400
<v Speaker 1>the Julius Randall team, and you might recall they were

750
00:40:33.519 --> 00:40:37.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of, you know, stumbling about, but they caught fire

751
00:40:37.480 --> 00:40:39.159
<v Speaker 1>at the end. But I didn't think and when none

752
00:40:39.199 --> 00:40:41.639
<v Speaker 1>of us thought they were really going to go anywhere,

753
00:40:42.159 --> 00:40:46.000
<v Speaker 1>and I was a WKYT and we always made some

754
00:40:46.039 --> 00:40:51.000
<v Speaker 1>extra revenue as the station in the postseason selling specials,

755
00:40:51.119 --> 00:40:54.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, pre tournament specials, and I produced them and

756
00:40:55.000 --> 00:40:57.079
<v Speaker 1>we had one each week, you know, depending on how

757
00:40:57.119 --> 00:40:59.159
<v Speaker 1>long they were in the tournament. Well, this team was

758
00:40:59.199 --> 00:41:02.719
<v Speaker 1>gonna last very long, so I thought, well, let's try

759
00:41:02.719 --> 00:41:04.920
<v Speaker 1>to make up some of that revenue and I can

760
00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:08.320
<v Speaker 1>put together a documentary on that eighty four team. And yeah,

761
00:41:08.320 --> 00:41:11.320
<v Speaker 1>they lost, but they were a much beloved team and

762
00:41:11.320 --> 00:41:13.079
<v Speaker 1>then they jump up and go to the Final four.

763
00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:17.039
<v Speaker 1>So I put that documentary on the shelf. But I

764
00:41:17.039 --> 00:41:19.199
<v Speaker 1>had talked to coach Hall. I had talked to Sam

765
00:41:19.239 --> 00:41:22.960
<v Speaker 1>and Jim Master and maybe one other about that game

766
00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:27.440
<v Speaker 1>in twenty fourteen, or rather the eighty four team, and

767
00:41:27.519 --> 00:41:29.960
<v Speaker 1>they came back this week. They had a reception and

768
00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:32.440
<v Speaker 1>a dinner for the guys on Friday night. They all

769
00:41:32.519 --> 00:41:35.679
<v Speaker 1>got together at the game on Saturday, but prior to that,

770
00:41:36.679 --> 00:41:40.039
<v Speaker 1>they brought in Bowie and Kenny Walker and Jim Master

771
00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:43.880
<v Speaker 1>to talk to us, to talk to the media, and

772
00:41:44.559 --> 00:41:47.840
<v Speaker 1>Kenny talked about the fact that that game, Yeah, it

773
00:41:47.880 --> 00:41:49.719
<v Speaker 1>was a long time ago, but it all kind of

774
00:41:49.719 --> 00:41:50.639
<v Speaker 1>came rushing back.

775
00:41:51.119 --> 00:41:53.679
<v Speaker 14>Man, I can't believe that it's been forty years ago.

776
00:41:54.760 --> 00:41:58.320
<v Speaker 14>Doesn't seem like it, you know. Unfortunately, you know, I've

777
00:41:58.360 --> 00:42:00.360
<v Speaker 14>seen some of the guys over the court for the

778
00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:05.280
<v Speaker 14>last few years, when Melvin Turpin passed away and Brett Barup,

779
00:42:06.039 --> 00:42:09.239
<v Speaker 14>you know, passed away, and then of course losing Coach Hall,

780
00:42:10.119 --> 00:42:11.880
<v Speaker 14>you know, about a year or so ago, and then

781
00:42:11.960 --> 00:42:13.280
<v Speaker 14>of course Melvin.

782
00:42:14.639 --> 00:42:14.679
<v Speaker 2>A.

783
00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:17.320
<v Speaker 14>Lake Kelly, who was an assistant coach on that team

784
00:42:17.360 --> 00:42:21.440
<v Speaker 14>as well. So I want to recognize all of those

785
00:42:21.480 --> 00:42:25.719
<v Speaker 14>people because obviously they can't be here, but they were

786
00:42:25.800 --> 00:42:29.159
<v Speaker 14>part of a special team. Nineteen eighty four were supposed

787
00:42:29.159 --> 00:42:32.320
<v Speaker 14>to be our year. Coach Hall told me several times

788
00:42:32.360 --> 00:42:34.920
<v Speaker 14>after his coaching career is over with, he thought that

789
00:42:35.039 --> 00:42:37.599
<v Speaker 14>was going to be the team to win it all

790
00:42:37.639 --> 00:42:40.480
<v Speaker 14>and he would ride off into the sunset, you know,

791
00:42:41.199 --> 00:42:45.920
<v Speaker 14>led by the Twin Towers, Sam Buie, Melvin Turpin, myself

792
00:42:46.000 --> 00:42:48.880
<v Speaker 14>on the front line, Dicky Bille, Jim Masters in the

793
00:42:48.920 --> 00:42:53.239
<v Speaker 14>starting lineup, Winston Bennett, James Blackman, Roger Harden, Brett Barup

794
00:42:53.280 --> 00:42:55.159
<v Speaker 14>coming off the bench. I think we had about eight

795
00:42:55.239 --> 00:42:58.599
<v Speaker 14>or nine McDonald's all Americans on that team. And this

796
00:42:58.800 --> 00:43:01.320
<v Speaker 14>was supposed to be the team and to get that

797
00:43:01.679 --> 00:43:06.840
<v Speaker 14>close to realizing your dream. Even forty years later, I

798
00:43:06.920 --> 00:43:10.440
<v Speaker 14>still can't believe it. Played a great first half against

799
00:43:10.519 --> 00:43:14.760
<v Speaker 14>Georgetown and then unfortunately somebody put a lid on the basket.

800
00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:19.239
<v Speaker 14>It's like a strange episode of the Twilight Throone or

801
00:43:19.239 --> 00:43:22.519
<v Speaker 14>something where you just just couldn't get out of the funk,

802
00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:24.519
<v Speaker 14>and still hurts to this day.

803
00:43:25.159 --> 00:43:28.599
<v Speaker 1>Kenny's been recognized at Rapperina before more than once. He

804
00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:31.320
<v Speaker 1>made the y and all that, but he told us

805
00:43:31.360 --> 00:43:34.199
<v Speaker 1>how much he was really looking forward to going out

806
00:43:34.239 --> 00:43:37.599
<v Speaker 1>there with his teammates and being recognized at halftime.

807
00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:40.679
<v Speaker 14>Glad to be with these guys and can't wait to

808
00:43:40.719 --> 00:43:45.920
<v Speaker 14>share more stories with him, but more importantly to walk

809
00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:50.159
<v Speaker 14>out on Rupperena one more time. You know, getting chill

810
00:43:50.559 --> 00:43:52.480
<v Speaker 14>chill bumps thinking about it right now.

811
00:43:53.280 --> 00:43:55.920
<v Speaker 1>And as you might expect, Kenny got a great ovation

812
00:43:56.119 --> 00:43:59.880
<v Speaker 1>from the crowd, and it was well deserved. Of course.

813
00:44:00.360 --> 00:44:04.840
<v Speaker 1>Somebody asked him about beyond the final four, beyond winning

814
00:44:04.880 --> 00:44:09.079
<v Speaker 1>that regional title, his favorite memory from that eighty four season.

815
00:44:09.480 --> 00:44:09.920
<v Speaker 2>I got it.

816
00:44:10.079 --> 00:44:12.639
<v Speaker 14>I got a big smile on my face because you

817
00:44:12.679 --> 00:44:14.880
<v Speaker 14>all probably know what I'm thinking. You Turme up from

818
00:44:14.880 --> 00:44:19.079
<v Speaker 14>the nineteen eighty four season. Oh that's an easy one.

819
00:44:19.159 --> 00:44:20.960
<v Speaker 14>I mean we had a lot of good games. You know,

820
00:44:21.239 --> 00:44:24.960
<v Speaker 14>the Dream Game, you know, the series had just started.

821
00:44:24.960 --> 00:44:26.519
<v Speaker 14>We beat Louisville twice that year.

822
00:44:26.639 --> 00:44:27.280
<v Speaker 2>That was fun.

823
00:44:27.880 --> 00:44:32.239
<v Speaker 14>We beat Houston in a game right before you know Christmas.

824
00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:36.519
<v Speaker 14>We beat Illinois in Ille Champagne. Illinois didn't beat him

825
00:44:36.559 --> 00:44:37.440
<v Speaker 14>again here.

826
00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:40.719
<v Speaker 2>In Elite eight. So those games were fun.

827
00:44:40.800 --> 00:44:46.559
<v Speaker 14>But for me personally, nineteen eighty four SEC Tournament, Nashville, Tennessee.

828
00:44:48.800 --> 00:44:51.880
<v Speaker 14>I've been doing sports talk radio here in Lexington, a

829
00:44:52.039 --> 00:44:55.679
<v Speaker 14>postgame show with Larry Glover of the for a long

830
00:44:55.719 --> 00:44:56.320
<v Speaker 14>long time.

831
00:44:56.880 --> 00:44:58.519
<v Speaker 2>And if I had a dime.

832
00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:01.800
<v Speaker 14>For every time that I get asked this question, what

833
00:45:01.920 --> 00:45:04.920
<v Speaker 14>did it feel like to make the shot to make

834
00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:08.920
<v Speaker 14>Charles Barkley cry? And they said, You're the only guy

835
00:45:09.000 --> 00:45:12.800
<v Speaker 14>in the history of the SEC that made Charles Barkley cry.

836
00:45:13.199 --> 00:45:16.679
<v Speaker 14>So for me, I really do appreciate that moment. And

837
00:45:16.760 --> 00:45:20.360
<v Speaker 14>every time that I see Charles Barkley always let him know,

838
00:45:20.880 --> 00:45:24.559
<v Speaker 14>don't forget about this six foot eight skinny kid from

839
00:45:24.639 --> 00:45:27.320
<v Speaker 14>Robert and Georgia made you cry.

840
00:45:28.679 --> 00:45:31.320
<v Speaker 1>I've heard him tell that story before. It's always great

841
00:45:31.920 --> 00:45:34.599
<v Speaker 1>one of the things that he left out was he

842
00:45:34.719 --> 00:45:37.639
<v Speaker 1>was shocked when Joe Hall told him in the huddle,

843
00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:40.320
<v Speaker 1>you're going to take the shot. He obviously, as most

844
00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:42.480
<v Speaker 1>of us did, I was watching on TV when I

845
00:45:42.519 --> 00:45:45.559
<v Speaker 1>lived in Dallas. He expected the ball to go to

846
00:45:45.559 --> 00:45:48.199
<v Speaker 1>Bowie or Turpin and Joe Hall first thing he says

847
00:45:48.280 --> 00:45:50.920
<v Speaker 1>is Kenny, you're going to take the shot. Kenny said, here,

848
00:45:50.960 --> 00:45:53.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm a sophomore, but I'm like, okay, And the shot

849
00:45:54.039 --> 00:45:57.079
<v Speaker 1>hit the front of the rim and rolled in. It

850
00:45:57.119 --> 00:46:01.599
<v Speaker 1>was obviously a moment to remain. I'm sure they talked

851
00:46:01.599 --> 00:46:04.199
<v Speaker 1>about that a little bit, but as Jim Master pointed out,

852
00:46:04.679 --> 00:46:07.960
<v Speaker 1>it was just funny, said, seeing all the guys, just seeing.

853
00:46:07.679 --> 00:46:11.559
<v Speaker 15>Him a lot of fun for me. And it's a camaraderie.

854
00:46:11.599 --> 00:46:16.400
<v Speaker 15>It's like a fraternity back then. Also, being as as

855
00:46:16.400 --> 00:46:21.000
<v Speaker 15>you get older, being a very small part of an

856
00:46:21.079 --> 00:46:25.679
<v Speaker 15>unbelievable tradition in Kentucky basketball, you get more and more

857
00:46:26.440 --> 00:46:28.559
<v Speaker 15>pride of that's what I did.

858
00:46:28.800 --> 00:46:32.159
<v Speaker 2>So a lot of pride, a lot of great.

859
00:46:31.920 --> 00:46:34.920
<v Speaker 15>Friends, a lot of great memories, a couple bad ones,

860
00:46:35.639 --> 00:46:39.000
<v Speaker 15>but all in all, it's been beautiful, I think for

861
00:46:39.159 --> 00:46:43.079
<v Speaker 15>all of us and for our families to come back beautiful.

862
00:46:44.280 --> 00:46:46.519
<v Speaker 1>I think Jim's going to be remembered most for the

863
00:46:46.519 --> 00:46:50.280
<v Speaker 1>shody hit against Louisville that put the game into overtime,

864
00:46:51.079 --> 00:46:53.400
<v Speaker 1>and he talked about that game as being part of

865
00:46:53.400 --> 00:46:56.679
<v Speaker 1>the bittersweet memories he had at Kentucky. But they took

866
00:46:56.679 --> 00:46:59.559
<v Speaker 1>a lot of pride, he said, and taking it to

867
00:46:59.639 --> 00:47:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Louisville that game. He just couldn't get over the hump

868
00:47:02.280 --> 00:47:04.519
<v Speaker 1>in the overtime, just like in Seattle, they couldn't get

869
00:47:04.559 --> 00:47:07.920
<v Speaker 1>over the hump and start knocking down shots against Georgetown.

870
00:47:08.440 --> 00:47:11.760
<v Speaker 1>Talking to Sam Buie, one of my questions to him

871
00:47:11.880 --> 00:47:15.679
<v Speaker 1>was about the fact that well expected Sam to be

872
00:47:16.079 --> 00:47:20.559
<v Speaker 1>a high volume shooter and scorer, but instead because of

873
00:47:20.599 --> 00:47:22.960
<v Speaker 1>all that talent and at least in the eighty fourteen,

874
00:47:23.559 --> 00:47:25.440
<v Speaker 1>he was more of a facilitator.

875
00:47:25.880 --> 00:47:31.119
<v Speaker 16>I was just telling somebody thirty minutes ago that I

876
00:47:31.199 --> 00:47:33.280
<v Speaker 16>was a second pick in the draft and I only

877
00:47:33.320 --> 00:47:35.320
<v Speaker 16>averaged ten points a game. I was talking to Coach

878
00:47:35.360 --> 00:47:37.239
<v Speaker 16>Oh we were out on the floor, and I was

879
00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:39.440
<v Speaker 16>trying to tell him that these kids got to realize

880
00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:42.119
<v Speaker 16>that if you do what you're supposed to do, you

881
00:47:42.119 --> 00:47:44.599
<v Speaker 16>can do this thing for a living and get compensated

882
00:47:44.639 --> 00:47:47.360
<v Speaker 16>at it, but I took the fourth most shots of

883
00:47:47.400 --> 00:47:51.199
<v Speaker 16>that team. I averaged ten points a game, but we

884
00:47:51.280 --> 00:47:53.440
<v Speaker 16>as a group had a lot of success.

885
00:47:53.519 --> 00:47:56.039
<v Speaker 2>So but that's a good point. You don't have to

886
00:47:56.039 --> 00:47:58.320
<v Speaker 2>go out and put up thirty points to be noticed.

887
00:47:59.199 --> 00:48:01.960
<v Speaker 1>And I wanted to follow up with a comment that

888
00:48:02.000 --> 00:48:06.119
<v Speaker 1>I've made on the show more than once that Trey

889
00:48:06.199 --> 00:48:11.039
<v Speaker 1>Mitchell reminds me with his passing ability of Sam standing

890
00:48:11.039 --> 00:48:13.119
<v Speaker 1>there in the high post, looking over the defense or

891
00:48:13.119 --> 00:48:16.840
<v Speaker 1>in trace case, around and finding his teammates. Sam was

892
00:48:16.960 --> 00:48:19.920
<v Speaker 1>so great at that, and that's why he didn't take

893
00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:22.320
<v Speaker 1>that many shots. He was too busy passing to Melvin

894
00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:27.199
<v Speaker 1>and Master and Kenny and people like that. So Sam

895
00:48:27.239 --> 00:48:31.039
<v Speaker 1>also talked about the fact that even though this team

896
00:48:31.199 --> 00:48:33.360
<v Speaker 1>did not get to the finish line, it is still

897
00:48:33.400 --> 00:48:36.679
<v Speaker 1>a much beloved squad according to the Big Blue Nation.

898
00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:40.159
<v Speaker 16>The fact that we did come up short and did

899
00:48:40.199 --> 00:48:44.079
<v Speaker 16>not get a chance to put another national championship banner

900
00:48:44.159 --> 00:48:47.239
<v Speaker 16>up there. All through my pro career, every time I

901
00:48:47.280 --> 00:48:49.760
<v Speaker 16>saw Patrick Ewing, I used to tell him he's walking

902
00:48:49.800 --> 00:48:53.280
<v Speaker 16>around with my ring because not you, Patrick, or anybody

903
00:48:53.320 --> 00:48:55.480
<v Speaker 16>can tell me that we were not the best team

904
00:48:55.519 --> 00:48:58.480
<v Speaker 16>in the country. We just happened to come up and

905
00:48:58.559 --> 00:49:01.679
<v Speaker 16>have a half the way we did in Seattle. But

906
00:49:02.599 --> 00:49:05.599
<v Speaker 16>I think the people are thinking, like mister Bowie, that

907
00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:07.920
<v Speaker 16>we still were the national champions.

908
00:49:08.519 --> 00:49:12.440
<v Speaker 1>So Canny talked about the great memory of winning that

909
00:49:12.599 --> 00:49:15.639
<v Speaker 1>SEC tournament game. Somebody asked Sam, I think Jef Drummond did.

910
00:49:16.159 --> 00:49:20.159
<v Speaker 1>Does he have memory of another moment from his career

911
00:49:20.199 --> 00:49:23.400
<v Speaker 1>at Kentucky, And Sam right away went to his last

912
00:49:23.440 --> 00:49:25.960
<v Speaker 1>home game in rap Arena senior year.

913
00:49:26.039 --> 00:49:30.360
<v Speaker 16>When you come through the hoop, the memories, the emotions

914
00:49:32.159 --> 00:49:36.440
<v Speaker 16>knowing that it's coming to a close, all the relationships

915
00:49:36.519 --> 00:49:40.559
<v Speaker 16>and all the.

916
00:49:39.480 --> 00:49:41.320
<v Speaker 2>Love that we had as a unit.

917
00:49:41.800 --> 00:49:44.159
<v Speaker 16>A lot of times the general public they just see

918
00:49:44.159 --> 00:49:46.880
<v Speaker 16>the ball thrown up and the game begins, but there's

919
00:49:46.920 --> 00:49:50.280
<v Speaker 16>so many people that make it happen. And I knew

920
00:49:50.360 --> 00:49:53.320
<v Speaker 16>after being here for five years that that was coming

921
00:49:53.360 --> 00:49:58.239
<v Speaker 16>to a close. So my last game here will stick

922
00:49:58.239 --> 00:50:01.559
<v Speaker 16>out above. I was us to play on the make

923
00:50:01.599 --> 00:50:04.920
<v Speaker 16>the nineteen eighty Olympic team and played double digits in

924
00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:08.760
<v Speaker 16>the NBA, but Kentucky my last game in rupp Arena

925
00:50:09.119 --> 00:50:09.559
<v Speaker 16>by far.

926
00:50:10.599 --> 00:50:12.880
<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the best of the Big Blue Insider

927
00:50:13.079 --> 00:50:17.760
<v Speaker 1>More to come here on six thirty WLAP It's Dick Gabriel,

928
00:50:17.840 --> 00:50:20.559
<v Speaker 1>welcome back to the best of the Big Blue Insider.

929
00:50:21.079 --> 00:50:24.199
<v Speaker 1>I mentioned the other day when we heard comments from

930
00:50:24.239 --> 00:50:26.719
<v Speaker 1>members of the eighty four Final four team that was

931
00:50:26.760 --> 00:50:30.840
<v Speaker 1>honored this past weekend. Bowie and Kenny Walker and Jim

932
00:50:30.920 --> 00:50:34.920
<v Speaker 1>Master spoke to the media, and I said that I

933
00:50:34.960 --> 00:50:38.360
<v Speaker 1>would hang on to this information and comment till later

934
00:50:38.440 --> 00:50:40.920
<v Speaker 1>in the week. We were talking so much basketball the

935
00:50:41.000 --> 00:50:43.360
<v Speaker 1>other day, but I did mention the fact it didn't

936
00:50:43.360 --> 00:50:46.639
<v Speaker 1>get a lot of media play. But Tony Neely, who

937
00:50:46.639 --> 00:50:50.639
<v Speaker 1>introduced all the players, made the announcement that Jim, who's

938
00:50:50.679 --> 00:50:55.199
<v Speaker 1>a financial advisor for Hilliard Lyons, had made a donation

939
00:50:55.360 --> 00:50:58.599
<v Speaker 1>to the University of Kentucky in the sum of one

940
00:50:58.920 --> 00:51:03.920
<v Speaker 1>million dollars, half two athletics, half to the general fund.

941
00:51:04.880 --> 00:51:07.960
<v Speaker 1>That's damned impressive. And a lot of athletes have come

942
00:51:08.000 --> 00:51:12.760
<v Speaker 1>back quite frankly and made contributions, but I don't remember

943
00:51:12.840 --> 00:51:17.199
<v Speaker 1>one like this. And so he took time in between

944
00:51:17.800 --> 00:51:21.679
<v Speaker 1>answering questions about the Final Four and the big shot

945
00:51:21.719 --> 00:51:25.440
<v Speaker 1>he made against Louisville. Master hit that huge jumper that

946
00:51:25.599 --> 00:51:28.239
<v Speaker 1>sent the game into overtime and the Wildcats had blown

947
00:51:28.239 --> 00:51:31.519
<v Speaker 1>a double digital lead and Louisville had taken a lead,

948
00:51:31.559 --> 00:51:34.559
<v Speaker 1>but then Kentucky comes back and needed that bucket from

949
00:51:34.639 --> 00:51:39.920
<v Speaker 1>Jim Master. And as he put it, many times, people said, well,

950
00:51:39.960 --> 00:51:41.519
<v Speaker 1>how could you take that shot? What was you know?

951
00:51:41.559 --> 00:51:44.079
<v Speaker 1>He said, I had no choice. You know, he goes up,

952
00:51:44.119 --> 00:51:47.800
<v Speaker 1>There's about two seconds left, maybe more. But as Jim

953
00:51:47.880 --> 00:51:49.679
<v Speaker 1>put it, he knew he had to take that shot

954
00:51:49.679 --> 00:51:51.800
<v Speaker 1>and he had to hit it. That is the definition

955
00:51:52.360 --> 00:51:54.239
<v Speaker 1>of clutch right there. And we all know what happened

956
00:51:54.280 --> 00:51:57.800
<v Speaker 1>in the overtime. But anyway, Jim, I think was an

957
00:51:57.880 --> 00:52:02.480
<v Speaker 1>undervalued player and it came to the coaches knew. But

958
00:52:03.239 --> 00:52:05.719
<v Speaker 1>on the other side of this comment, I'll share some

959
00:52:05.760 --> 00:52:08.519
<v Speaker 1>of the information about Jim and his career, because when

960
00:52:08.519 --> 00:52:11.920
<v Speaker 1>you play with Bowie and Turpin, and you know, prior

961
00:52:11.960 --> 00:52:15.000
<v Speaker 1>to that, Minifield and Dicky Beale and those guys, you're

962
00:52:15.039 --> 00:52:18.719
<v Speaker 1>going to get overshadowed a little bit. But man, he

963
00:52:18.760 --> 00:52:20.440
<v Speaker 1>had a hell of a high school career and a

964
00:52:20.480 --> 00:52:23.840
<v Speaker 1>college career and now a professional career as well. But

965
00:52:24.000 --> 00:52:27.079
<v Speaker 1>I asked him, you know, why make that donation.

966
00:52:27.800 --> 00:52:31.599
<v Speaker 15>There's really about six reasons. One, I've had good fortune

967
00:52:31.440 --> 00:52:36.159
<v Speaker 15>and good luck. I talked to Mitch about a year ago.

968
00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:43.920
<v Speaker 15>Uh even better things that happened to me during this time.

969
00:52:44.440 --> 00:52:46.840
<v Speaker 2>So I was thinking about it, Dick for a while.

970
00:52:47.440 --> 00:52:49.639
<v Speaker 15>And then I thought about education and all this and

971
00:52:50.159 --> 00:52:53.960
<v Speaker 15>and uh so I live here, I played here.

972
00:52:54.840 --> 00:52:57.559
<v Speaker 2>I'm part of a crazy tradition. Small part.

973
00:52:58.639 --> 00:53:02.960
<v Speaker 15>I graduated in four years business, proud of that.

974
00:53:03.079 --> 00:53:06.239
<v Speaker 2>My brother Randy went to a business school there.

975
00:53:06.679 --> 00:53:10.639
<v Speaker 15>So the education part, the athletic part.

976
00:53:11.280 --> 00:53:13.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm a big Mitch Barnhart fan.

977
00:53:15.199 --> 00:53:16.880
<v Speaker 15>For not only what he does on the court, but

978
00:53:16.880 --> 00:53:19.480
<v Speaker 15>what he does off the court.

979
00:53:20.639 --> 00:53:29.159
<v Speaker 2>My son, he didn't like basketball until last year, so

980
00:53:29.320 --> 00:53:32.360
<v Speaker 2>that's fun. He's into it. We live here.

981
00:53:32.400 --> 00:53:35.320
<v Speaker 15>I said all those things, and I thought it was

982
00:53:35.440 --> 00:53:40.280
<v Speaker 15>time to do something. How small it is, I hope

983
00:53:40.320 --> 00:53:43.159
<v Speaker 15>it helps the university, not only athletically. I hope it

984
00:53:43.159 --> 00:53:46.519
<v Speaker 15>helps shows all young men or women that you don't

985
00:53:46.519 --> 00:53:48.440
<v Speaker 15>have to be a first round back draft pick, you

986
00:53:48.440 --> 00:53:52.679
<v Speaker 15>don't have to be a first round baseball player football.

987
00:53:53.119 --> 00:53:58.079
<v Speaker 15>You can still be successful in life with a degree

988
00:53:58.119 --> 00:54:01.920
<v Speaker 15>from Kentucky and be a shot an athlete and move

989
00:54:02.000 --> 00:54:04.199
<v Speaker 15>on and do good things. I hope that does something

990
00:54:04.239 --> 00:54:07.079
<v Speaker 15>for the university. Hope it does something for other people.

991
00:54:08.159 --> 00:54:08.960
<v Speaker 15>And I'm proud to.

992
00:54:08.920 --> 00:54:13.320
<v Speaker 1>Do it pretty impressive, and so was his basketball career.

993
00:54:14.000 --> 00:54:17.920
<v Speaker 1>He was mister Basketball in Indiana and he didn't really

994
00:54:18.039 --> 00:54:19.639
<v Speaker 1>like it, but a lot of people compared him to

995
00:54:19.679 --> 00:54:23.039
<v Speaker 1>Kyle Macy. Their games were different. I mean, Kyle was

996
00:54:23.119 --> 00:54:27.159
<v Speaker 1>a facilitator. Jim was a shooter. He was a scorer

997
00:54:27.760 --> 00:54:31.280
<v Speaker 1>and proud of his ability to shoot and score. And

998
00:54:31.320 --> 00:54:34.880
<v Speaker 1>that's how he became mister basketball in Indiana. In nineteen

999
00:54:34.960 --> 00:54:39.559
<v Speaker 1>eighty second team Parade All American McDonald's All American. And

1000
00:54:39.599 --> 00:54:43.039
<v Speaker 1>I had kind of forgotten about this, but you wouldn't

1001
00:54:43.079 --> 00:54:44.960
<v Speaker 1>think that Jim, or you might think that Jim was

1002
00:54:45.199 --> 00:54:48.159
<v Speaker 1>torn between UK and I. You know, he was being

1003
00:54:48.159 --> 00:54:53.400
<v Speaker 1>recruited heavily by, among other schools, Notre Dame, and as

1004
00:54:53.440 --> 00:54:56.079
<v Speaker 1>we followed, and we didn't follow recruiting nearly as much

1005
00:54:56.519 --> 00:55:00.000
<v Speaker 1>back then as we do now, but we knew Can

1006
00:55:00.039 --> 00:55:03.920
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky was going after mister basketball in Indiana. And more

1007
00:55:03.960 --> 00:55:06.199
<v Speaker 1>than one mister basketball has come down here to play.

1008
00:55:06.880 --> 00:55:08.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, Mike Flynn was the best player in the

1009
00:55:08.920 --> 00:55:11.920
<v Speaker 1>state of Indiana and played for that seventy five Kentucky

1010
00:55:11.960 --> 00:55:15.480
<v Speaker 1>team that went to the championship game. So Master came

1011
00:55:15.519 --> 00:55:19.920
<v Speaker 1>down as well, started for three years, was All Conferences

1012
00:55:20.000 --> 00:55:24.199
<v Speaker 1>sophomore and junior year, third team All SEC, and he

1013
00:55:24.280 --> 00:55:28.880
<v Speaker 1>had that huge game against Louisville, and he had a

1014
00:55:28.920 --> 00:55:33.039
<v Speaker 1>really good tournament, and he was named All NCAA Regional.

1015
00:55:33.079 --> 00:55:35.320
<v Speaker 1>In fact, he was named to the All Regional team

1016
00:55:35.519 --> 00:55:38.679
<v Speaker 1>the year prior. What people don't remember about Jim and

1017
00:55:38.719 --> 00:55:40.159
<v Speaker 1>I ran out of time. I was going to ask

1018
00:55:40.199 --> 00:55:42.239
<v Speaker 1>him about this, but I was the only guy I

1019
00:55:42.280 --> 00:55:45.920
<v Speaker 1>think who really cared about it except for Jim. He

1020
00:55:46.000 --> 00:55:48.760
<v Speaker 1>was a member of the nineteen eighty three Pan Am

1021
00:55:48.800 --> 00:55:52.119
<v Speaker 1>team that won the gold medal. That I mean, he

1022
00:55:52.239 --> 00:55:55.159
<v Speaker 1>makes this team of course, it's like the prelude to

1023
00:55:55.199 --> 00:55:58.440
<v Speaker 1>the Olympics. And the best player on that team guy

1024
00:55:58.480 --> 00:56:03.679
<v Speaker 1>named Michael Jordan. Yeah, but also on that team Michael Cage,

1025
00:56:04.079 --> 00:56:09.760
<v Speaker 1>Chris Mullen, Sam Perkins, Ed Peinakney was on that team,

1026
00:56:10.679 --> 00:56:17.519
<v Speaker 1>Mark Price, Charlie Sitton, I mean, Wayman Tisdale, Leon Wood,

1027
00:56:18.000 --> 00:56:21.760
<v Speaker 1>You're like who? Leon Wood was a player at cal

1028
00:56:21.800 --> 00:56:24.800
<v Speaker 1>State Fullerton, went on to a long Nbacre's first round

1029
00:56:24.880 --> 00:56:29.960
<v Speaker 1>draft pick, and he actually became an NBA referee after

1030
00:56:30.000 --> 00:56:33.400
<v Speaker 1>his playing career was over. But Jack Hartman coached that

1031
00:56:33.519 --> 00:56:36.559
<v Speaker 1>team and they won the gold medal, and Jim was

1032
00:56:36.599 --> 00:56:39.519
<v Speaker 1>part of it. You know, had to make his way

1033
00:56:39.519 --> 00:56:43.239
<v Speaker 1>through tryouts and as you heard, you got to compete

1034
00:56:43.239 --> 00:56:46.599
<v Speaker 1>against a guy named Jordan. You've got Mark Price, a

1035
00:56:46.679 --> 00:56:50.840
<v Speaker 1>tremendous point guard, and Leon Wood a tremendous point guard.

1036
00:56:50.880 --> 00:56:54.719
<v Speaker 1>So Jim was playing four minutes at the shooting guard

1037
00:56:55.840 --> 00:56:58.760
<v Speaker 1>and won a spot there and won himself a gold medal.

1038
00:56:58.920 --> 00:57:02.239
<v Speaker 1>And I remember reading the story from somebody not from

1039
00:57:02.360 --> 00:57:06.159
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky who covered the tryouts and kept an eye on

1040
00:57:06.159 --> 00:57:09.320
<v Speaker 1>that team. And Jim was also drafted in the sixth

1041
00:57:09.440 --> 00:57:12.719
<v Speaker 1>round by the Pacers, didn't make the NBA and chowse not.

1042
00:57:12.599 --> 00:57:13.719
<v Speaker 2>To go to Europe.

1043
00:57:13.960 --> 00:57:17.119
<v Speaker 1>But whoever wrote this story, and I was living in

1044
00:57:17.199 --> 00:57:21.880
<v Speaker 1>Dallas at the time, said Jim Master can do things

1045
00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:25.239
<v Speaker 1>other than shoot the basketball that you might not think

1046
00:57:25.280 --> 00:57:28.239
<v Speaker 1>he's capable of doing. But Kentucky didn't need him to

1047
00:57:28.280 --> 00:57:32.000
<v Speaker 1>do it. What Kentucky needed him to do was shoot

1048
00:57:32.039 --> 00:57:37.440
<v Speaker 1>from the outside and take the pressure off Melvin Turpin

1049
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<v Speaker 1>prior to Booie's arrival after the two years with the injury,

1050
00:57:41.239 --> 00:57:44.800
<v Speaker 1>and in that eighty four season helped loosen things up

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00:57:44.800 --> 00:57:46.880
<v Speaker 1>for both of the Twin Towers. And he did that

1052
00:57:47.559 --> 00:57:50.519
<v Speaker 1>and he did it really well and obviously he enjoyed

1053
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<v Speaker 1>his time when he's proud of the time he spent

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<v Speaker 1>at UKN As I told you the other day, Jim

1055
00:57:55.239 --> 00:58:00.519
<v Speaker 1>stayed right here when basketball was over, settled in, started

1056
00:58:00.519 --> 00:58:04.760
<v Speaker 1>a financial career, raised his family, and now has donated

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00:58:04.840 --> 00:58:08.320
<v Speaker 1>one million bucks to his alma mine. We're listening to

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<v Speaker 1>the best of the Big Blue Insider. More to come

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<v Speaker 1>here on six thirty w LAP. It's Dick Gabriel. Welcome

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00:58:14.719 --> 00:58:17.599
<v Speaker 1>back to the Best of the Big Blue Insider. Joining

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00:58:17.679 --> 00:58:20.400
<v Speaker 1>us down our celebrity hotline is a longtime friend of

1062
00:58:20.440 --> 00:58:23.639
<v Speaker 1>the show and a colleague, mister John Clay, columnists for

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00:58:23.679 --> 00:58:26.960
<v Speaker 1>The Arrow Leader and John. Things kind of slowing down

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00:58:27.000 --> 00:58:29.280
<v Speaker 1>for you a little bit, But it's been it's been

1065
00:58:29.400 --> 00:58:32.079
<v Speaker 1>quite the run with Kentucky baseball, that's been. That's been

1066
00:58:32.159 --> 00:58:34.199
<v Speaker 1>kind of fun, hasn't it. Oh?

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, absolutely. I really got into the College even though

1068
00:58:37.039 --> 00:58:39.440
<v Speaker 12>it didn't make the trip to them all, but really

1069
00:58:39.480 --> 00:58:42.559
<v Speaker 12>got into watching the College World Series, obviously because you know,

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00:58:42.559 --> 00:58:45.079
<v Speaker 12>with Kentucky being in it. But even through the whole

1071
00:58:45.119 --> 00:58:47.559
<v Speaker 12>thing I watched. I think I watched the majority of

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<v Speaker 12>every game in the World College World Series and Yeah,

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00:58:52.960 --> 00:58:54.239
<v Speaker 12>it was a lot of fun, of course to see

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<v Speaker 12>Kentucky make it, but then to follow the other teams too.

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00:58:57.960 --> 00:58:59.679
<v Speaker 12>I thought it was a really good tournament all the

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<v Speaker 12>way through.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you know, people are wondering now ken they

1078
00:59:02.880 --> 00:59:06.159
<v Speaker 1>do it again, and it's it's gonna be tougher obviously

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<v Speaker 1>with Texas and Oklahoma joining up. But what do you

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<v Speaker 1>see in the future, the near future?

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<v Speaker 12>Well, I mean I think, you know, I think I

1082
00:59:15.519 --> 00:59:17.760
<v Speaker 12>said this before. You know, they had a good year

1083
00:59:17.840 --> 00:59:20.840
<v Speaker 12>last year obviously, when a lot of people, myself included,

1084
00:59:20.880 --> 00:59:23.800
<v Speaker 12>thought that maybe, you know, Nick Minjion wasn't the answer

1085
00:59:23.840 --> 00:59:26.760
<v Speaker 12>for the job at Kentucky after having two or three

1086
00:59:26.800 --> 00:59:29.440
<v Speaker 12>bad years there. But he got turned around last year.

1087
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<v Speaker 12>But then you know, they made it to the super

1088
00:59:31.119 --> 00:59:33.239
<v Speaker 12>reason they lost the LSU and then LSU went on

1089
00:59:33.320 --> 00:59:36.239
<v Speaker 12>and won the whole thing. But you thought, okay, was that,

1090
00:59:36.440 --> 00:59:38.320
<v Speaker 12>you know, was that a fluke? Was that an aberration?

1091
00:59:38.400 --> 00:59:40.119
<v Speaker 12>Can he keep it going? And then and then this

1092
00:59:40.239 --> 00:59:43.480
<v Speaker 12>year they took it one step further. So I don't obviously,

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00:59:43.559 --> 00:59:45.039
<v Speaker 12>as you said, it's going to be tough to get back.

1094
00:59:45.079 --> 00:59:46.880
<v Speaker 12>It's always going to be tough to get back. But

1095
00:59:46.960 --> 00:59:48.599
<v Speaker 12>I do think they are in a really good place.

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00:59:48.639 --> 00:59:51.119
<v Speaker 12>I think the ballpark has made a big difference. I

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00:59:51.119 --> 00:59:53.480
<v Speaker 12>think Nick has made some changes which he has openly

1098
00:59:53.559 --> 00:59:56.199
<v Speaker 12>talked about about. How you know, during COVID or whatever,

1099
00:59:56.239 --> 00:59:58.039
<v Speaker 12>he talked to former players and they told him some

1100
00:59:58.079 --> 00:59:59.960
<v Speaker 12>things that he didn't want to hear, but there were

1101
01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:01.920
<v Speaker 12>things he needed to year and he made some changes.

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<v Speaker 12>So I think they're in a good spot. And just

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01:00:04.280 --> 01:00:07.559
<v Speaker 12>the exposure that they got from making being there at

1104
01:00:07.559 --> 01:00:10.880
<v Speaker 12>the College World Series was a lot was made out

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01:00:10.880 --> 01:00:13.159
<v Speaker 12>of it being their first time being there. But I

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01:00:13.159 --> 01:00:16.239
<v Speaker 12>think the exposure they got, I think obviously will help them.

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01:00:16.440 --> 01:00:18.039
<v Speaker 12>I think they're in a good place for the future.

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01:00:18.360 --> 01:00:21.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and they've done such a great job. And I've

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01:00:21.360 --> 01:00:23.639
<v Speaker 1>said it over and over minji On and his staff,

1110
01:00:24.159 --> 01:00:27.679
<v Speaker 1>because it is a staff wide effort to work the portal.

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01:00:28.039 --> 01:00:29.599
<v Speaker 1>You know, I think they've worked the portal as well

1112
01:00:29.639 --> 01:00:32.559
<v Speaker 1>as anybody. Getting the right guy not just the skills.

1113
01:00:32.800 --> 01:00:35.519
<v Speaker 1>It's not putting a fantasy team together, it's getting the

1114
01:00:35.599 --> 01:00:37.960
<v Speaker 1>right guys. And they've done as good a job as

1115
01:00:37.960 --> 01:00:40.239
<v Speaker 1>that as anybody in the country.

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01:00:40.719 --> 01:00:42.800
<v Speaker 12>Absolutely, and you know more about it than I do

1117
01:00:42.880 --> 01:00:45.239
<v Speaker 12>as far as Nick concerned. But you know, me. I'm

1118
01:00:45.280 --> 01:00:48.440
<v Speaker 12>a big Springsteen guy, and I remember reading in his

1119
01:00:48.960 --> 01:00:51.519
<v Speaker 12>memoir where he said that he learned early on it

1120
01:00:52.440 --> 01:00:54.679
<v Speaker 12>wasn't getting the best musicians for your band, it was

1121
01:00:54.679 --> 01:00:57.320
<v Speaker 12>getting the right musicians for your band. And I think

1122
01:00:57.360 --> 01:01:00.000
<v Speaker 12>that's true. You know, in all sports with about the athlete,

1123
01:01:00.159 --> 01:01:02.039
<v Speaker 12>it's not the It's got to be a good fit.

1124
01:01:02.360 --> 01:01:04.800
<v Speaker 12>It's got to be somebody who compliments the other players.

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01:01:05.119 --> 01:01:07.159
<v Speaker 12>You know, we arend a little of that when talking

1126
01:01:07.199 --> 01:01:09.360
<v Speaker 12>to Mark Pope earlier this week in basketball, where he

1127
01:01:09.400 --> 01:01:12.760
<v Speaker 12>talked about team building and building players and relationships. That

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01:01:12.920 --> 01:01:15.679
<v Speaker 12>is so important, maybe even more important. Obviously, you got

1129
01:01:15.719 --> 01:01:18.119
<v Speaker 12>to have athletic ability. You got to have the talent

1130
01:01:18.199 --> 01:01:20.519
<v Speaker 12>and the skill level. That maybe more important. It's the

1131
01:01:20.639 --> 01:01:22.519
<v Speaker 12>chemistry and how the pieces fit together.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get to Mark Pope in a minute, but I

1133
01:01:24.760 --> 01:01:27.400
<v Speaker 1>wanted to talk about the previous UK coach because you

1134
01:01:27.440 --> 01:01:30.159
<v Speaker 1>wrote about it leading up to the NBA Draft. Then,

1135
01:01:30.199 --> 01:01:32.920
<v Speaker 1>of course, Reed Shepherd, as you point out or somebody

1136
01:01:32.960 --> 01:01:37.119
<v Speaker 1>pointed out, was the first college player taken in the draft,

1137
01:01:37.719 --> 01:01:40.320
<v Speaker 1>and the Houston Rockets jam said they believe he was

1138
01:01:40.360 --> 01:01:43.079
<v Speaker 1>the best player in the draft. And then of course

1139
01:01:43.719 --> 01:01:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Dillingham goes to the Spurs, which was supposed to be

1140
01:01:46.960 --> 01:01:49.360
<v Speaker 1>a great thing. Then he goes to the Wolves, which

1141
01:01:49.440 --> 01:01:52.880
<v Speaker 1>might be even better. John, they're so close to a title.

1142
01:01:52.960 --> 01:01:57.800
<v Speaker 1>But John Calipery, I guess this was his farewell to Kentucky,

1143
01:01:57.880 --> 01:02:01.679
<v Speaker 1>you know, two more first round draft. But you wrote

1144
01:02:01.719 --> 01:02:04.400
<v Speaker 1>the other day about the infamous statement that he made

1145
01:02:05.400 --> 01:02:07.800
<v Speaker 1>I guess after his first year at Kentucky about this

1146
01:02:07.920 --> 01:02:11.039
<v Speaker 1>being another greatest night in UK history. I'm like you.

1147
01:02:11.480 --> 01:02:15.320
<v Speaker 1>I believe that if he could, he would completely walk

1148
01:02:15.360 --> 01:02:18.159
<v Speaker 1>that back. It was clearly done for recruiting purposes. But

1149
01:02:18.280 --> 01:02:21.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he ever lived that down, do you no?

1150
01:02:21.559 --> 01:02:23.199
<v Speaker 12>And that's kind of what I wrote the other day.

1151
01:02:23.400 --> 01:02:26.519
<v Speaker 12>You know, as we know what John, John can kind of,

1152
01:02:26.639 --> 01:02:29.199
<v Speaker 12>you know, get into the hyperbole and sometimes he gets

1153
01:02:29.239 --> 01:02:32.079
<v Speaker 12>carried away with himself over the years. And yeah, I

1154
01:02:32.119 --> 01:02:35.000
<v Speaker 12>think maybe he would walk that one back. He obviously

1155
01:02:35.119 --> 01:02:38.039
<v Speaker 12>was talking to recruits obviously, you know, recruits want to

1156
01:02:38.079 --> 01:02:41.280
<v Speaker 12>go to the NBA. That's there, your high level recruit,

1157
01:02:41.360 --> 01:02:43.599
<v Speaker 12>that's what they want to do. And he was speaking

1158
01:02:43.639 --> 01:02:46.199
<v Speaker 12>to those guys, but he took it a little too far.

1159
01:02:47.239 --> 01:02:49.559
<v Speaker 12>The only the thing that annoyed me the other night

1160
01:02:51.079 --> 01:02:53.440
<v Speaker 12>was that all the people saying, and you hear it

1161
01:02:53.480 --> 01:02:56.000
<v Speaker 12>over and over. You know Cal didn't start. You know,

1162
01:02:56.079 --> 01:02:58.039
<v Speaker 12>he hit two guys going the top eight and he

1163
01:02:58.079 --> 01:03:00.199
<v Speaker 12>didn't start them. You know, it just shows what kind

1164
01:03:00.239 --> 01:03:02.920
<v Speaker 12>of coach he is. I wrote back earlier, and I

1165
01:03:03.000 --> 01:03:05.039
<v Speaker 12>retweeted the other night the same Colum and I got

1166
01:03:05.039 --> 01:03:07.360
<v Speaker 12>a lot of blowback from that. I think col was

1167
01:03:07.440 --> 01:03:11.360
<v Speaker 12>unfairly criticized for that reach. Shepherd was at the third

1168
01:03:11.400 --> 01:03:14.920
<v Speaker 12>most minutes on the team. They had a rotation going

1169
01:03:14.960 --> 01:03:17.760
<v Speaker 12>that I think Cal was comfortable with. Those guys were

1170
01:03:17.760 --> 01:03:19.679
<v Speaker 12>in the game a lot of times before the first

1171
01:03:19.679 --> 01:03:22.199
<v Speaker 12>TV time out. If you go back and look, a

1172
01:03:22.440 --> 01:03:26.559
<v Speaker 12>friend of mine sent me a Texic or after the

1173
01:03:26.599 --> 01:03:29.920
<v Speaker 12>season saying, what was the score at the sixteen minute

1174
01:03:29.920 --> 01:03:31.760
<v Speaker 12>I'd like to know the score at the sixteen minute

1175
01:03:31.760 --> 01:03:33.400
<v Speaker 12>mark of those games. This was the person who was

1176
01:03:33.440 --> 01:03:35.320
<v Speaker 12>critical of cow. So I went back and looked at that.

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01:03:35.440 --> 01:03:38.760
<v Speaker 12>In the last fifteen games Sick, only six times were

1178
01:03:38.800 --> 01:03:41.840
<v Speaker 12>they behind at the sixteen and mark when Shepard million

1179
01:03:41.960 --> 01:03:44.519
<v Speaker 12>into the game. And two of those games Shepherd actually

1180
01:03:44.559 --> 01:03:48.199
<v Speaker 12>started when DJ Wager was hurt and they were fine,

1181
01:03:48.360 --> 01:03:50.679
<v Speaker 12>so two of the six, So I thought, you know,

1182
01:03:50.840 --> 01:03:52.239
<v Speaker 12>and I also to say to this people, you know,

1183
01:03:52.320 --> 01:03:55.400
<v Speaker 12>Mark Pope did not start Jackson Robinson. He was the

1184
01:03:55.440 --> 01:03:58.039
<v Speaker 12>sixth player. He was probably by u's best player. He

1185
01:03:58.079 --> 01:03:59.960
<v Speaker 12>was the sixth man of the year in the Big twelve,

1186
01:04:00.119 --> 01:04:02.599
<v Speaker 12>and Mark Pope did not start him. You know, just

1187
01:04:02.639 --> 01:04:05.639
<v Speaker 12>because you do not start doesn't mean you're not a

1188
01:04:05.679 --> 01:04:08.719
<v Speaker 12>good player. And a lot of people feel like bringing

1189
01:04:08.760 --> 01:04:10.400
<v Speaker 12>in a six man off the bench to give your

1190
01:04:10.440 --> 01:04:12.880
<v Speaker 12>offensive punch is the best way to go. So I

1191
01:04:12.920 --> 01:04:15.480
<v Speaker 12>think Cal was. You can criticize Cal for a lot

1192
01:04:15.480 --> 01:04:17.119
<v Speaker 12>of things. I can make you a list if you

1193
01:04:17.159 --> 01:04:19.559
<v Speaker 12>want me to, but I thought that one was overblown.

1194
01:04:20.199 --> 01:04:22.880
<v Speaker 1>John I could not agree more. And I argued every

1195
01:04:22.920 --> 01:04:26.559
<v Speaker 1>week with my colleagues on air, Aaron Gershawan and Billy

1196
01:04:26.639 --> 01:04:30.440
<v Speaker 1>rut Ligion for a couple of reasons, one of them

1197
01:04:30.480 --> 01:04:33.440
<v Speaker 1>being we all get swept up in offense. And clearly

1198
01:04:33.519 --> 01:04:36.800
<v Speaker 1>these guys were the best offensive wing players along with

1199
01:04:36.880 --> 01:04:42.159
<v Speaker 1>Antonio Reeves, but with all due respect, they didn't bring

1200
01:04:42.199 --> 01:04:44.880
<v Speaker 1>a whole lot of on ball defense. Now, Reid could

1201
01:04:44.880 --> 01:04:48.360
<v Speaker 1>shoot gaps and backtip and all that, but you know, yeah,

1202
01:04:48.400 --> 01:04:50.960
<v Speaker 1>you might get a little more offensive punch off the

1203
01:04:51.000 --> 01:04:54.360
<v Speaker 1>bench right away if they're rather if they're starting. But

1204
01:04:54.440 --> 01:04:56.760
<v Speaker 1>on the other hand, you're going to give up more points.

1205
01:04:57.239 --> 01:04:59.519
<v Speaker 1>So I and I you know, as you know, I

1206
01:04:59.519 --> 01:05:01.239
<v Speaker 1>lived a couple years in Dallas, and I went to

1207
01:05:01.280 --> 01:05:03.880
<v Speaker 1>a lot of NBA games, and they you know, there's

1208
01:05:04.119 --> 01:05:08.039
<v Speaker 1>in the NBA, there are automatic subs early on, and

1209
01:05:08.079 --> 01:05:10.480
<v Speaker 1>I will watch the Maverick subs get up, but not

1210
01:05:10.599 --> 01:05:13.400
<v Speaker 1>even the coach looking at him at some point. So

1211
01:05:13.599 --> 01:05:15.320
<v Speaker 1>I kind of got used to that. Now it wasn't

1212
01:05:15.360 --> 01:05:17.960
<v Speaker 1>exactly the same thing, but the bottom line was, I

1213
01:05:18.039 --> 01:05:22.800
<v Speaker 1>really liked the infusion of energy that those guys brought

1214
01:05:23.079 --> 01:05:25.360
<v Speaker 1>when they came into the game. That was something that

1215
01:05:25.440 --> 01:05:29.519
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky had that nobody else had in the country. And

1216
01:05:29.639 --> 01:05:31.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm like you, you could, you could pick

1217
01:05:31.880 --> 01:05:34.960
<v Speaker 1>at Caliperi for a lot of things, but but I will.

1218
01:05:34.960 --> 01:05:37.400
<v Speaker 1>I know, I'm an outlier. I'm stubborn. So but I

1219
01:05:37.440 --> 01:05:41.599
<v Speaker 1>did fully, fully agree on that. You were there. When

1220
01:05:41.599 --> 01:05:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Mark Pope spoke to us the other day, did anything

1221
01:05:44.519 --> 01:05:46.000
<v Speaker 1>in particular jump out at you.

1222
01:05:47.639 --> 01:05:50.119
<v Speaker 12>Just wrote about this too. I mean he didn't really

1223
01:05:50.159 --> 01:05:52.920
<v Speaker 12>you know, he didn't talk basketball. He talked about the

1224
01:05:53.000 --> 01:05:55.360
<v Speaker 12>things around the teams, the thinks we talked about earlier

1225
01:05:55.400 --> 01:05:59.440
<v Speaker 12>about chemistry. You guys, all new guys getting in the

1226
01:05:59.440 --> 01:06:01.960
<v Speaker 12>same boat together. The only thing in common is they

1227
01:06:02.000 --> 01:06:03.800
<v Speaker 12>all took that leap of faith to get in the

1228
01:06:03.800 --> 01:06:06.039
<v Speaker 12>same boat. They don't really know each other, you know,

1229
01:06:06.119 --> 01:06:08.880
<v Speaker 12>the process of getting getting them to know each other

1230
01:06:09.239 --> 01:06:11.639
<v Speaker 12>and get along, that's what you know, kind of the

1231
01:06:11.679 --> 01:06:14.079
<v Speaker 12>summer is for. We talked about that before Cal when

1232
01:06:14.079 --> 01:06:16.639
<v Speaker 12>he brought in all his freshmen. You know, that kind

1233
01:06:16.639 --> 01:06:18.480
<v Speaker 12>of stuck out to me, and just you know, it's

1234
01:06:18.519 --> 01:06:20.760
<v Speaker 12>just going to be different with Mark. I think he's

1235
01:06:20.800 --> 01:06:24.159
<v Speaker 12>such a breath of fresh air. Nothing against Cal, it's

1236
01:06:24.199 --> 01:06:26.840
<v Speaker 12>just different. You know, the way Mark talks to the media,

1237
01:06:26.880 --> 01:06:29.880
<v Speaker 12>the way he reacts and so forth. As people tell me,

1238
01:06:29.920 --> 01:06:32.199
<v Speaker 12>and that's true. We'll see what happens when they lose

1239
01:06:32.199 --> 01:06:34.320
<v Speaker 12>a couple of games. But right now, I think he's

1240
01:06:34.360 --> 01:06:37.800
<v Speaker 12>doing everything right. I think everything is going as well

1241
01:06:37.840 --> 01:06:40.639
<v Speaker 12>as could be expected, maybe even more than that. To

1242
01:06:40.719 --> 01:06:41.559
<v Speaker 12>this point.

1243
01:06:41.800 --> 01:06:45.199
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know Kentucky fans as well as anybody. I

1244
01:06:45.239 --> 01:06:49.719
<v Speaker 1>think the word reasonable is one of those malleable words

1245
01:06:49.800 --> 01:06:52.559
<v Speaker 1>right now. But you also know that the closer the

1246
01:06:52.599 --> 01:06:56.039
<v Speaker 1>season gets, the hype and the hysteria will take hold.

1247
01:06:56.079 --> 01:07:00.000
<v Speaker 1>But what do you think fans, let's say, what's fair

1248
01:07:00.280 --> 01:07:02.440
<v Speaker 1>to expect this year from the basketball team?

1249
01:07:03.400 --> 01:07:05.159
<v Speaker 12>Well, I mean, I think you know, they want a

1250
01:07:05.199 --> 01:07:07.880
<v Speaker 12>winning team, a competitive team, a team that you know,

1251
01:07:07.920 --> 01:07:10.960
<v Speaker 12>obviously when they get to March, can make a you know,

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<v Speaker 12>not necessarily get to the Final four, but be a

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<v Speaker 12>factor in March, which Kentucky has not been for the

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<v Speaker 12>past few years, even though when they've had an I C.

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<v Speaker 12>You know, it may be a little rough start now

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<v Speaker 12>because as we said, these guys are have not played

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<v Speaker 12>together before you got an all new team. They are older,

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<v Speaker 12>which obviously should help. But I think just that you

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<v Speaker 12>get the feeling that he thinks he mark you know,

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<v Speaker 12>he that he will I don't want to say up

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<v Speaker 12>to the job because I think he's up to the job,

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<v Speaker 12>but that he's going in the right direction and they

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<v Speaker 12>can see in the future with recruiting and so forth,

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<v Speaker 12>that he's he's going to bring, you know, do great things,

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<v Speaker 12>going to get the job done. I think that's more so,

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<v Speaker 12>maybe even than the results the first season. You know

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<v Speaker 12>that he gives them the confidence, which I think he

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<v Speaker 12>will he is the right man for the job, and

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<v Speaker 12>then he'll be able to do great things here.

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<v Speaker 1>I know people in this day and age wonder about

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<v Speaker 1>his desire for incoming players to embrace Kentucky tradition. You

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<v Speaker 1>know the name on the front of the jersey. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what it means, know what the history means, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have a right to be a little cynical

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<v Speaker 1>about that, I think in this day and age. But

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<v Speaker 1>through pure osmosis, I gotta think John that anybody who

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<v Speaker 1>plays for him is going to get that, don't you.

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<v Speaker 12>Well, yeah, absolutely, I mean, because that comes through through

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<v Speaker 12>and through his love of the program. I thought it

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<v Speaker 12>was interesting the other day when he talked about his

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<v Speaker 12>favorite English professor at UK, yes, doctor Bli. And when

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<v Speaker 12>I mentioned that to my wife, who was an English

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<v Speaker 12>major at UK, when I got back from the press conference,

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<v Speaker 12>I said something about that, she knew immediately who Mark

1285
01:08:46.520 --> 01:08:48.760
<v Speaker 12>was talking about because she had doctor Bly when she

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01:08:48.840 --> 01:08:51.319
<v Speaker 12>was in school. So, you know, that kind of touch

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<v Speaker 12>which we haven't had, you know, recently, because he is

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<v Speaker 12>a UK guy. He went to school here, he played here,

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<v Speaker 12>and you know, we haven't had that in a while.

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<v Speaker 12>And I think that's kind of a nice touch as well.

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<v Speaker 12>And I think I think you're right. I think some

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<v Speaker 12>of that will carry over to the players, whether they're

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<v Speaker 12>here one year or two years or you know, four years.

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<v Speaker 12>I think some of that His love for the school

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<v Speaker 12>and his knowledge about the school and the program, I

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<v Speaker 12>think will definitely help.

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<v Speaker 1>John Clay is my guest sports Columns for the Hero.

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<v Speaker 1>Later we'll come back with more questions for John. You're

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<v Speaker 1>listening to the best of the Big Blue Insider. More

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01:09:22.319 --> 01:09:26.600
<v Speaker 1>to come here on six thirty w lap. Hey, it's

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<v Speaker 1>Dick Gabriel and you're listening to the best of the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Blue Insider. John Clay is my guest in our

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01:09:32.000 --> 01:09:35.680
<v Speaker 1>celebrity hotline. We're talking sports. It is the talking season.

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<v Speaker 1>John is Mark Stoops likes to point out, and SEC

1305
01:09:39.520 --> 01:09:42.319
<v Speaker 1>football media days are coming right at us. It's going

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01:09:42.359 --> 01:09:44.239
<v Speaker 1>to be a zoo down in Dallas. I think I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to stick my toe back in the water, if

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<v Speaker 1>nor for another reason, to reacquainate myself with some friends

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01:09:49.319 --> 01:09:54.119
<v Speaker 1>down there. But I'm wondering. I think we both know

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01:09:54.960 --> 01:09:56.680
<v Speaker 1>what it's going to be like for Stoops when he

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<v Speaker 1>gets down there and his dalliance, whatever you want to

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01:10:00.279 --> 01:10:02.000
<v Speaker 1>call it, what Texas A and M is gonna come

1313
01:10:02.079 --> 01:10:03.520
<v Speaker 1>up front and center isn't it.

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<v Speaker 12>Oh yeah, especially in Dallas because there'll be a lot

1315
01:10:06.720 --> 01:10:10.000
<v Speaker 12>of Texas media there and there'll be plenty of questions

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<v Speaker 12>and uh, you know, I think Mark will handle it fine.

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<v Speaker 12>But yeah, that will definitely be one that will definitely

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<v Speaker 12>be one of the questions and one of the storylines,

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01:10:17.279 --> 01:10:19.920
<v Speaker 12>if not here, certainly down in Texas and with A

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01:10:20.039 --> 01:10:22.520
<v Speaker 12>and M. We'll see how that goes. Well, Mark's been

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01:10:22.560 --> 01:10:24.680
<v Speaker 12>around for a while. I think he'll amble is fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, you know, for him to be the longest ten

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01:10:28.560 --> 01:10:32.319
<v Speaker 1>year head football coach in the Southeastern Conference at one school,

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<v Speaker 1>to me, John and just not a knock on him

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<v Speaker 1>or UK, it's just that's just not the way things

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<v Speaker 1>have gone right.

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<v Speaker 12>No, No, not not here, not anywhere. You know, you know,

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<v Speaker 12>it's wild when you think about it. Uh, you know

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<v Speaker 12>that we think Saban's retirement. He's the longest tendron coach

1330
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<v Speaker 12>in the SEC. Obviously, you know, be a different different

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<v Speaker 12>year this year with Texas and Oklahoma coming in. I

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01:10:53.159 --> 01:10:56.279
<v Speaker 12>think that obviously got a really tough schedule, but they're

1333
01:10:56.279 --> 01:10:58.079
<v Speaker 12>always gonna have a tough schedule in the SEC. But

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<v Speaker 12>I think it's a really tough schedule. I think, actually,

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<v Speaker 12>I think this could be one of the more talented

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<v Speaker 12>rosters and Marcus had since you've been here. Obviously, there's

1337
01:11:05.119 --> 01:11:07.760
<v Speaker 12>some question Marchie got quarterback who's unproven. You got a

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01:11:07.760 --> 01:11:10.680
<v Speaker 12>new offensive coordinator, the third offensive coordinator in three years.

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<v Speaker 12>You got some questions on defense, especially in the secondary,

1340
01:11:14.279 --> 01:11:16.680
<v Speaker 12>how that what's going to happen there? But I think overall,

1341
01:11:16.720 --> 01:11:18.640
<v Speaker 12>when you look at the roster, overall, I think it's

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<v Speaker 12>one of the better rosters he's had since he's been here.

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<v Speaker 12>The scary thing is the schedule and how they're going

1344
01:11:23.039 --> 01:11:24.039
<v Speaker 12>to be able to navigate that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I keep saying, John, because as you said,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're in the SEC, you're gonna have a tough schedule.

1347
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<v Speaker 1>But they have traded more manageable opponents for others that

1348
01:11:34.920 --> 01:11:38.079
<v Speaker 1>might not be so manageable. But more than anything, it's

1349
01:11:38.119 --> 01:11:41.800
<v Speaker 1>not the schedule. It's the calendar, you know, those those challenges.

1350
01:11:41.880 --> 01:11:47.520
<v Speaker 1>So early will learn a lot, but this may really

1351
01:11:47.920 --> 01:11:49.880
<v Speaker 1>be a gut punch early in the season, you know.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, Now, I do think that it will help them

1353
01:11:54.039 --> 01:11:56.760
<v Speaker 12>from the standpoint that they will learn early. They'll learn,

1354
01:11:56.840 --> 01:11:59.399
<v Speaker 12>you know, after these first three weeks, so they're missed

1355
01:11:59.439 --> 01:12:01.760
<v Speaker 12>and then soath line in Georgia. He's going to have

1356
01:12:01.760 --> 01:12:03.520
<v Speaker 12>a better idea of what, you know, what kind of

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01:12:03.520 --> 01:12:06.680
<v Speaker 12>team he has, where his strengths and weaknesses are. But

1358
01:12:06.920 --> 01:12:09.239
<v Speaker 12>you could also take a couple of losses along the way.

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<v Speaker 12>I mean, certainly the Georgia game, there'll be a heavy

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01:12:11.199 --> 01:12:14.359
<v Speaker 12>underdog in that game. So how they come out of

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01:12:14.359 --> 01:12:15.920
<v Speaker 12>that's going to be key. Not so much from a

1362
01:12:15.960 --> 01:12:19.159
<v Speaker 12>win law, maybe not so much from a win loss situation,

1363
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<v Speaker 12>but you know how he feels about his team and

1364
01:12:21.319 --> 01:12:22.960
<v Speaker 12>what holes he knows he's going to have to shore

1365
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<v Speaker 12>up the rest of the way. But you're you're right,

1366
01:12:25.520 --> 01:12:27.319
<v Speaker 12>it's and you know it's it's easy to sit here

1367
01:12:27.359 --> 01:12:29.119
<v Speaker 12>and look at the schedule on paper and you never

1368
01:12:29.159 --> 01:12:30.760
<v Speaker 12>know how it's going to play out. Nobody thought at

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<v Speaker 12>this point last year the Missouri was gonna end up

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<v Speaker 12>twelve and two or whatever. Eleven and two or whatever

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<v Speaker 12>they ended up last year. So there'll be teams that

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<v Speaker 12>do better than you expect, and they'll be teams that

1373
01:12:39.239 --> 01:12:42.000
<v Speaker 12>don't do as well as you expect. But obviously, you know,

1374
01:12:42.039 --> 01:12:43.800
<v Speaker 12>having to go to Texas, Texas is going to be

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<v Speaker 12>one that they're probably going to be number three in

1376
01:12:45.760 --> 01:12:47.640
<v Speaker 12>the country in the preseason poll. They're gonna be one,

1377
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<v Speaker 12>probably one of the five teams all year long. That's

1378
01:12:49.680 --> 01:12:53.920
<v Speaker 12>a tough game, Auburn. It's you Freeze's second season. You'd

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01:12:53.960 --> 01:12:56.439
<v Speaker 12>have to think common sense tells you that they'll be

1380
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<v Speaker 12>better than they were last year, you know, despite the trouble.

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<v Speaker 12>If you Freeze got into in the past, I think

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01:13:01.039 --> 01:13:04.000
<v Speaker 12>he's a good obviously a good coach. So yeah, I

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<v Speaker 12>mean those two games, plus you factor in they have

1384
01:13:06.239 --> 01:13:08.079
<v Speaker 12>to go to Florida. This is a make or break

1385
01:13:08.159 --> 01:13:10.359
<v Speaker 12>gear for Billy Napier. How are they going to react

1386
01:13:10.399 --> 01:13:12.640
<v Speaker 12>to that? You know, all those things fit in as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Louisville's is going to be better. And I already

1388
01:13:15.359 --> 01:13:18.760
<v Speaker 1>saw way too soon not not a top twenty five

1389
01:13:19.479 --> 01:13:22.920
<v Speaker 1>that had Louisville ranked in Kentucky unranked. So yeah, it's

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01:13:22.920 --> 01:13:25.319
<v Speaker 1>going to be but it's going to be fun. A

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<v Speaker 1>few minutes up with John Clay the hero leader. This

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<v Speaker 1>sounds random, but I'll tie it in. When I was

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01:13:30.319 --> 01:13:32.119
<v Speaker 1>a kid, I don't know if you read sporting news,

1394
01:13:32.199 --> 01:13:35.079
<v Speaker 1>but I did. But then when the free agency began,

1395
01:13:35.199 --> 01:13:37.119
<v Speaker 1>and I'd look at a story and do I want

1396
01:13:37.119 --> 01:13:38.960
<v Speaker 1>to read this it was if it was full of

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<v Speaker 1>dollar signs, John, I would skip it. I want to

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01:13:42.199 --> 01:13:45.479
<v Speaker 1>hear I'm gonna read about baseball, not contracts. Well, I

1399
01:13:45.479 --> 01:13:48.239
<v Speaker 1>think when when we tune in or listen in or

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01:13:48.279 --> 01:13:50.760
<v Speaker 1>go to the SEC meetings, there's going to be so

1401
01:13:50.920 --> 01:13:55.520
<v Speaker 1>much chatter about nil and the portal and things like that,

1402
01:13:56.000 --> 01:13:59.720
<v Speaker 1>which I think is just grinding away at the sports.

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01:14:00.079 --> 01:14:02.520
<v Speaker 1>It takes it. It's vital, but it takes away a

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01:14:02.560 --> 01:14:03.760
<v Speaker 1>lot on of fun, doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 12>Oh yeah, and you know, really, you know, we we

1406
01:14:08.039 --> 01:14:10.520
<v Speaker 12>have our own metrics at the row Leader in Kentucky

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01:14:10.560 --> 01:14:14.039
<v Speaker 12>dot com. And the stories, you know, we write about it.

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01:14:14.319 --> 01:14:16.720
<v Speaker 12>My colleague Mark Story writes about it. John Albim, we

1409
01:14:16.800 --> 01:14:19.079
<v Speaker 12>write about it, but those stories don't get as many

1410
01:14:19.119 --> 01:14:21.279
<v Speaker 12>clicks or his pace views. It's just the stories about

1411
01:14:21.319 --> 01:14:24.920
<v Speaker 12>the roster or who's coming in, who about recruiting and

1412
01:14:24.960 --> 01:14:27.439
<v Speaker 12>that sort of thing. Obviously, they're very important you have

1413
01:14:27.520 --> 01:14:29.199
<v Speaker 12>to write about I have to pay attention to it.

1414
01:14:29.319 --> 01:14:31.800
<v Speaker 12>But I think you're right. I think the fans they

1415
01:14:31.800 --> 01:14:34.000
<v Speaker 12>have their feel of that. Uh they want to know,

1416
01:14:34.279 --> 01:14:35.640
<v Speaker 12>you know, how good is the team going to be

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<v Speaker 12>this year?

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<v Speaker 15>Uh?

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<v Speaker 12>That sort of thing. I heard a story Mike Lombardi,

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<v Speaker 12>the former GM. He has his own podcast. He said

1421
01:14:42.560 --> 01:14:45.680
<v Speaker 12>that he worked with CBS. He was working at CBS

1422
01:14:45.680 --> 01:14:47.800
<v Speaker 12>and Jim Nance pulled him aside at one time and

1423
01:14:47.880 --> 01:14:50.039
<v Speaker 12>Jim Nance told him, Mike, you're doing a great job,

1424
01:14:50.079 --> 01:14:53.800
<v Speaker 12>but you're talking too much inside baseball football about general

1425
01:14:53.840 --> 01:14:57.239
<v Speaker 12>managers and about the inner workings. So the little old

1426
01:14:57.279 --> 01:14:59.479
<v Speaker 12>lady in IWA, who has her favorite team is the Pear.

1427
01:14:59.560 --> 01:15:02.479
<v Speaker 12>She wants to know three things. Who's the quarterback, who's

1428
01:15:02.479 --> 01:15:04.119
<v Speaker 12>the coach, and are we going to be any good

1429
01:15:04.159 --> 01:15:07.279
<v Speaker 12>this year? So you need to talk more about that. So,

1430
01:15:07.319 --> 01:15:09.239
<v Speaker 12>and I think that's what the average fan, that's what

1431
01:15:09.239 --> 01:15:11.960
<v Speaker 12>they're that's what they're most interested in, more so than

1432
01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:13.399
<v Speaker 12>the dollar. Soiunds and the numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a Lombardi fan. I listened to his podcast. I

1434
01:15:16.279 --> 01:15:18.720
<v Speaker 1>actually bought one of his books, and I've had him

1435
01:15:18.720 --> 01:15:22.680
<v Speaker 1>on the show, and I remember that anecdote and absolutely correct.

1436
01:15:22.840 --> 01:15:26.159
<v Speaker 1>When he starts talking about our contracts are structured and

1437
01:15:26.199 --> 01:15:28.960
<v Speaker 1>you know option here and all that stuff, my eyes

1438
01:15:29.000 --> 01:15:32.479
<v Speaker 1>start to cross. But I'm like most people, Yeah, I

1439
01:15:32.479 --> 01:15:34.600
<v Speaker 1>want to know, even if it's not about the packers.

1440
01:15:35.079 --> 01:15:37.840
<v Speaker 1>You know what, I love it when he talks about

1441
01:15:37.880 --> 01:15:41.000
<v Speaker 1>the different approaches from different coordinators. And that's why, getting

1442
01:15:41.039 --> 01:15:44.039
<v Speaker 1>back to your comment about the new OC, I'm really

1443
01:15:44.119 --> 01:15:47.279
<v Speaker 1>curious to see what this Kentucky offense looks like with

1444
01:15:47.399 --> 01:15:51.239
<v Speaker 1>Bush Hamden and can he and whoever's the starting QB,

1445
01:15:51.399 --> 01:15:56.319
<v Speaker 1>assuming assuming it's Vander can they capture I won't say recapture,

1446
01:15:56.359 --> 01:16:00.680
<v Speaker 1>but let's say replicate the kind of magic that they

1447
01:16:00.720 --> 01:16:03.600
<v Speaker 1>had with will Levis here. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 12>I mean from all the looks at the sound of it,

1449
01:16:06.680 --> 01:16:08.560
<v Speaker 12>he wants to continue some of those thing things, but

1450
01:16:08.680 --> 01:16:11.079
<v Speaker 12>kind of adapted more to the college game. And I

1451
01:16:11.119 --> 01:16:13.439
<v Speaker 12>think one of the things is the running quarterback. Yeah,

1452
01:16:13.479 --> 01:16:14.800
<v Speaker 12>you know, I mean, I don't think they're gonna run

1453
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<v Speaker 12>a lot of his own read but I think one

1454
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<v Speaker 12>of the reasons they took the Orangeboro kid from Rutgers

1455
01:16:19.840 --> 01:16:23.079
<v Speaker 12>as a transfer whim Sat or however you pronounce his

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<v Speaker 12>last name, but anyway, you know, at Rutgers he was

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<v Speaker 12>a starter, but if you go by his numbers, he

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<v Speaker 12>wasn't much of a passer, but obviously he was a

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<v Speaker 12>dual threat. He can run into a great athlete, and

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<v Speaker 12>the fact that they took him, and I think you're

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<v Speaker 12>going to see maybe him in certain situations run packages

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<v Speaker 12>and so forth. I think that's going to be an

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<v Speaker 12>interesting change. I thought that was the one thing with

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<v Speaker 12>rich S Gangarello when he didn't want Will Levis to run,

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<v Speaker 12>and I know he didn't want him to get hurt,

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<v Speaker 12>and they were it be about their backup, and he

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<v Speaker 12>thought he had an NFL future and he wanted to

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<v Speaker 12>get hurt. But if the year before, under Liam Will's

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<v Speaker 12>first year, you know that the run was a threat.

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<v Speaker 12>I mean, not so much running on his own read,

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<v Speaker 12>but take off on a quarterback draw or even on

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<v Speaker 12>a scramble, and they took that away from Will his

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<v Speaker 12>second year, and I thought that hurt him more than anything.

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<v Speaker 12>So but you know, we'll see how it goes this year.

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<v Speaker 12>But I think Vandergriff, you know, I think I've said

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<v Speaker 12>on this show before. You know, I've got a lot

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<v Speaker 12>of contacts in Georgia who were really high on Vandergriff

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<v Speaker 12>and thought that he was neck and neck with Carson Beck.

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<v Speaker 12>Last year during Paul Camp, they went with Beck, and

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<v Speaker 12>Beck played so well. Vander Griff, you know, never really

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<v Speaker 12>got in the game for not much, but they were

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<v Speaker 12>highing him. The only knock was that he played at

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<v Speaker 12>a small school in Georgia, was a five school for

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<v Speaker 12>five school, a five star prospect, but he played as

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<v Speaker 12>a smaller school than wonder about his competition. But he

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<v Speaker 12>looked he has the looks of a quarterback, and he

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<v Speaker 12>has the looks of somebody who can run if you

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<v Speaker 12>need him to run. What did him to say? We

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<v Speaker 12>need the quarterback to get two first downs with his

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<v Speaker 12>feet every game. And I thought that was a really

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<v Speaker 12>interesting thing that Bush said.

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<v Speaker 1>John, Thank you sir, We'll see you down the road.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Dick that I'll do it for now. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for joining us for this special edition the best of

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<v Speaker 1>the Big Blue Insider. That's it. Good night from the garage.

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<v Speaker 6>In Lexington, mass As biggest same
