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Speaker 4: been busy, We've been active. We had a good chat
Speaker 4: with our man Alex Kupper talking some Louisville football. He
Speaker 4: joined us at three point thirty. And it feels like football.
Speaker 4: You know, they didn't have an off season, but the
Speaker 4: bye week being late and really a lot of energy
Speaker 4: and emotion being shifted to basketball with the Tennessee game
Speaker 4: last week, it kind of feels like it's been forever
Speaker 4: since we've watched this team play. And I think wishful thinking.
Speaker 4: Of course, this team has a chance to really finish strong.
Speaker 4: And yes there's some shortfalls earlier in the year that
Speaker 4: are probably going to sting. Especially if this team starts
Speaker 4: to look really good, they look the best they've looked
Speaker 4: all year. It'll take you back to the wood. It
Speaker 4: could have, should have, but you can't control it. And
Speaker 4: I'd rather finish strong than start strong. I mean again,
Speaker 4: a stronger finish or a stronger start would have potentially
Speaker 4: put you in a different situation than you're in right now.
Speaker 4: But you're still in a good spot. You're in the
Speaker 4: top twenty in the college football playoff rankings. I believe
Speaker 4: you will only climb if you keep winning, especially if
Speaker 4: you do it in impressive fashion. The victory against Clemson
Speaker 4: is clearly the one that has the most value. But
Speaker 4: you don't have a loss at this point that you
Speaker 4: can look at and say, man, how to be lose
Speaker 4: to them? Now. I actually do kind of have that
Speaker 4: mindset about these losses, but not to the opponent, but
Speaker 4: because of like, geez, you didn't even play great, and
Speaker 4: if you just eliminate a mistake here and there, you
Speaker 4: might have won. But again that that's in the past.
Speaker 4: So because Louisville is not going to be in the
Speaker 4: mix and not gonna make the college football playoff, I
Speaker 4: just don't think there's this I mean, and I don't
Speaker 4: say that to like sound so negative. It's just it's
Speaker 4: just the reality of it. So maybe, you know, maybe
Speaker 4: if they keep climbing and you're just right there on
Speaker 4: the outside looking in and you just missed it, that
Speaker 4: would be you know, that would suck. But last year
Speaker 4: the season was really a dream. And I don't mean
Speaker 4: to say that they you know, did the unthinkable, but
Speaker 4: they got off to such a great start and it
Speaker 4: was there was no pressure, There was really no big
Speaker 4: expectations nobody really knew what to expect in year one
Speaker 4: of Jeff Brohm. I think most people expected, hey, well
Speaker 4: that's Saturday guy. He wasn't terrible, he was mid. So
Speaker 4: if we're at least a little better than mid, or
Speaker 4: even if we are mid, will we'll be okay with
Speaker 4: it because we know the guy we got a lot
Speaker 4: better than the guy that he's replacing. And if you
Speaker 4: finish the season with three more regular season wins and
Speaker 4: then you win a bowl game against whoever that's against
Speaker 4: down in bowl games, man, there's such a such a
Speaker 4: question mark now because that trend that has been in
Speaker 4: effect for years is only going to begin, is only
Speaker 4: going to grow and become a bigger thing. And that
Speaker 4: is people just not playing. And mean, if you play
Speaker 4: in bowl games, you're missing out on the free agency period.
Speaker 4: I mean, there are already coaches right now that are
Speaker 4: coaching legitimately. I think might have been Mark Stoops earlier
Speaker 4: that that mentioned this in one of his press conferences,
Speaker 4: that you got coaches that are still with what a
Speaker 4: fourth of their season left, but they are now spending
Speaker 4: a lot of time and energy on roster management for
Speaker 4: next year, discussing next year with players currently on their team,
Speaker 4: and there's already guys that are in the portal, so
Speaker 4: you know, I have no clue what to expect with
Speaker 4: anything when it comes to a Bowl game. But that
Speaker 4: would of course give them the chance to win four
Speaker 4: in a row and finish with ten wins. And if
Speaker 4: you finish with ten wins and you're in the playoff
Speaker 4: rankings every week that they've existed since Bram has been
Speaker 4: your coach, I'd say that you'd be able to claim
Speaker 4: that two years in you got a lot of momentum
Speaker 4: and the future still looks really, really bright. Now. I
Speaker 4: think Brom is probably gonna be a guy that is
Speaker 4: just gonna live with the portal every year. And I
Speaker 4: don't have a problem with that. Like, even when Louisville
Speaker 4: was losing games earlier this year, I don't really think
Speaker 4: it was because they got a bad batch of players
Speaker 4: in the portal, or and they got completely they were
Speaker 4: over sold or something like that. I mean, and I
Speaker 4: think Brom, just his personality and the way he goes
Speaker 4: about things, I can see him doing pretty well in
Speaker 4: the portal every year. And yes, there's gonna be guys
Speaker 4: that end up being not as good as you thought
Speaker 4: they were gonna be, or guys that you know are
Speaker 4: way better than you would have expected. Like Isaac Garrinde.
Speaker 4: I feel like he was just an ad on running
Speaker 4: back last year when he transferred to Louisville. He ended
Speaker 4: up being your best back when it was all said
Speaker 4: and done. So, you know, those that worry about recruiting rankings,
Speaker 4: I think in basketball and in football, recruiting rankings are
Speaker 4: still going to be something fans pay attention to, and
Speaker 4: if you can get really good young talent, you'll take it.
Speaker 4: But let's be real here, like emphasizing one way or
Speaker 4: the other, meaning, wow, can you believe we're what's going on?
Speaker 4: How are we ranked? You know, third to last in
Speaker 4: recruiting rankings right now? In football? I mean, if you're
Speaker 4: super negative about it, it's probably an overreaction because you
Speaker 4: can easily like that's not going to be a detriment
Speaker 4: to you if you do well in the portal and
Speaker 4: you retain guys on your roster that you know have
Speaker 4: proven that you want to keep them around. Same thing.
Speaker 4: On the other side, if you're doing scoreboard hanging banners
Speaker 4: for recruiting rankings now, I mean, it's never really meant
Speaker 4: anything unless you get results. But it means even less
Speaker 4: now because you don't win with just a bunch of freshmen.
Speaker 4: And that's really never been the case. That's never been
Speaker 4: the case in football. So you know, I bring this
Speaker 4: up because Louisville did lose a commit today from Indianapolis
Speaker 4: who flipped from Louisville to Indiana. We had somebody text
Speaker 4: in earlier and said, did you kick John off the
Speaker 4: show because Indiana is dominating and taking recruits from Louisville.
Speaker 4: I didn't kick him off of anything, but yeah, war
Speaker 4: in Central in Indiana, not Kentucky Edge Rusher, Tyrone Burst
Speaker 4: Junior flipped his commitment to Indiana earlier today, and you
Speaker 4: know that's not something you want to see. And yes,
Speaker 4: that does make it to where you have even more.
Speaker 4: You have even more. I guess need to do well
Speaker 4: in the portal if you're not bringing in as many freshmen.
Speaker 4: But if you do really well in the portal, if
Speaker 4: brom can keep up with what he's done the last
Speaker 4: two years and the only two years he's been here,
Speaker 4: and you can maybe get one or two guys that
Speaker 4: are freshmen that are really really talented, like an Isaac Brown,
Speaker 4: who is the best running back in I mean, he's
Speaker 4: the best freshman running back in the country. You can
Speaker 4: look at his numbers, he might be one of the
Speaker 4: best running backs in the country. That's I mean when
Speaker 4: you look at what he's done consistently with the amount
Speaker 4: of carries that he's received throughout the entire year. I mean,
Speaker 4: he's getting a decent workload, but his numbers are more
Speaker 4: impressive when you consider what he's done without being a
Speaker 4: guy that literally gets the ball forty times a game.
Speaker 4: So I think the recipe is that you retain guys
Speaker 4: you want to retain, like Ashton, Jealottie and Quincy Riley,
Speaker 4: those guys, Michael Gonzalez, and you bring in a freshman class,
Speaker 4: but the bigger emphasis on, the bigger emphasis is going
Speaker 4: to be on how are we going to do in
Speaker 4: the portal? And you know, bram has had a really
Speaker 4: highly ranked portal class each of the two times he's
Speaker 4: relied on the portal at Louisville. And if they go
Speaker 4: back to back years double digit wins and their roster
Speaker 4: was mostly relying on guys in the portal, what does
Speaker 4: that tell you he's pretty good in this new world
Speaker 4: of utilizing the transfer portal to build his roster and
Speaker 4: have success us. We also discussed a lot of basketball
Speaker 4: with Kent Spencer, who joined us around four o'clock. I
Speaker 4: recommend you go check out the podcast if you missed it,
Speaker 4: because it's always a great chat with Kent, And you know,
Speaker 4: we had to discuss things that don't make me happy.
Speaker 4: But you know, I got a job that I'm professional,
Speaker 4: believe it or not. Kentucky got the exact result against
Speaker 4: Duke that Louisville wanted against Tennessee, and I really don't
Speaker 4: think you could have scripted a better start for Mark
Speaker 4: Pope at Kentucky. I mean, he's checking all the boxes
Speaker 4: relating to the fans, making it clear that it's not
Speaker 4: going to be a Pope first program like it was
Speaker 4: a Calip Perry first program. And those things matter, especially
Speaker 4: when you consider the way cal handled things the last
Speaker 4: I mean, really he's been that way all along. He
Speaker 4: got a little more stubborn later on, but man, you
Speaker 4: got to see when he was winning at a high level,
Speaker 4: none of their fans cared that he was, you know,
Speaker 4: being cal But whenever you start to lose to bums
Speaker 4: and you're underwhelming and you have the three best shooters
Speaker 4: in program history and you can't get out of the
Speaker 4: first round as a three seed. Like That's when it
Speaker 4: becomes all right, this is we got to do something here.
Speaker 4: Something's got to give. So, you know, Pope doing all
Speaker 4: the things that Caliperry did wrong off the floor to
Speaker 4: you know not you know, no longer really have a
Speaker 4: great approval rating from his fan base. Pope's done the
Speaker 4: exact opposite and now he's winning. I mean again, who knows.
Speaker 4: Maybe Kentucky ends up being underwhelming this year, You really
Speaker 4: never know, but they dominated the two dud teams they played,
Speaker 4: and then they beat Duke. And again, I don't know
Speaker 4: if you could have scripted a better start for Mark
Speaker 4: Pope with Pat Kelcey, I think you could say the
Speaker 4: exact same thing until the Tennessee loss, and in our
Speaker 4: conversation that I had with Kent and really just the
Speaker 4: more time that passes since Saturday, I'm still willing to acknowledge.
Speaker 4: None of us know how the season's gonna go, and
Speaker 4: none of us really know how Louisville will be able
Speaker 4: to handle those types of games until you're in and
Speaker 4: other game like that. Now, fortunately you have or maybe
Speaker 4: it's unfortunately depending on how you look at it, if
Speaker 4: you're Pat Kelsey. But they're gonna be playing a lot
Speaker 4: of teams of Tennessee Tennessee's caliber. Maybe not teams that
Speaker 4: are as physical and that are such a bad matchup
Speaker 4: for you, but teams that are believed to be really good.
Speaker 4: You're gonna play a lot of them in the next,
Speaker 4: you know, six weeks or so. So we're gonna find
Speaker 4: out if they're making improvements when it comes to how
Speaker 4: to execute and have better results than what they had
Speaker 4: against Tennessee. So I'm not ready to say, man, we
Speaker 4: should just expect trus met. Look, none of us know
Speaker 4: how they're gonna respond. They didn't mean they in real
Speaker 4: time on Saturday afternoon. We're experiencing something that you couldn't
Speaker 4: replicate in practice. There's not even there's been no ounce
Speaker 4: of adversity or any real challenge from anybody. And then
Speaker 4: they went out there against Tennessee and Tennessee just was
Speaker 4: that much better in every way.
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Speaker 4: So you know, I'm not down on Louisville basketball by
Speaker 4: any means. As far as thinking that we now need
Speaker 4: to reset expectations and just expect this team to not
Speaker 4: be a tournament team, I still think that you have
Speaker 4: the pieces to where you can make the tournament. Now
Speaker 4: will it happen? None of us know, And unfortunately, the
Speaker 4: next two games aren't gonna give you much of an indicator.
Speaker 4: But I'm sure these guys want to get that bad
Speaker 4: taste out of their mouth. They got Bellerman next week,
Speaker 4: a game they should win by a lot. Bellerman's really
Speaker 4: struggling Winthrop. I don't know a whole lot about them,
Speaker 4: but doesn't matter. You're now, as Austin pointed out earlier,
Speaker 4: you're now in a new era to where like it's
Speaker 4: always been for Louisville basketball. Other than the previous era.
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter if Winthrop's good for Winthrop, you're Louisville, like,
Speaker 4: you're gonna take care of business. You're not gonna lose
Speaker 4: to them, at least, you know, I hope not. I
Speaker 4: don't think they will. But when they take off of
Speaker 4: the Bahamas around Thanksgiving, that's when you get to see, Okay,
Speaker 4: how much did they really take, like how much did
Speaker 4: they learn from the Tennessee game? How able are they
Speaker 4: to handle that kind of a situation when you're out
Speaker 4: there against those kind of teams and look, talent always matters,
Speaker 4: but there's all kinds of teams that have better talent
Speaker 4: than the opponent at night in and night out, and
Speaker 4: they lose. I mean, Louisville basketball the last couple of years,
Speaker 4: that was the exact story. Louisville did not go four
Speaker 4: in twenty eight and eight and whatever it was because
Speaker 4: of players. I mean, I think we all know that.
Speaker 4: So if Louisville does end up beating Indiana, and let's
Speaker 4: say they beat I don't know, West Virginia, and then
Speaker 4: they lose to whoever else they go to and one
Speaker 4: in the Bahamas, again, easier said than done. And let's
Speaker 4: say they come back in the beat Ole miss who
Speaker 4: will be their first opponent when they return from Bahamas
Speaker 4: and the acc SEC Challenge. I mean, I'm not saying
Speaker 4: this to kind of you know who know And again
Speaker 4: I'm not even saying this stuff that these results are
Speaker 4: going to play out that way, but I would be
Speaker 4: willing to tell you that they beat teams that actually
Speaker 4: had more talent on them. So it happens often. So
Speaker 4: like that's one of the things that I keep getting
Speaker 4: from people in the text line that I'm worried because
Speaker 4: Tennessee showed that we're not nearly as good as them,
Speaker 4: and we played teams that are going to be a
Speaker 4: lot more talented than us, and I'm worried it's going
Speaker 4: to be a long season. Nick, Well, who knows. Maybe
Speaker 4: you're right, but you can beat teams that have more
Speaker 4: talent than you. Now, again, there's really no way to
Speaker 4: know the exact level, right, there's not a meter on
Speaker 4: every player out there as far as their talent level.
Speaker 4: But talent meets nothing if it's if you're not executing
Speaker 4: and you're not ready to play. In fact, there's a
Speaker 4: lot of guys that have so called talent that never
Speaker 4: do anything. Talent's probably one of the most overused words
Speaker 4: when it comes to sports, and it's such a gray
Speaker 4: area because maybe people mean talent differently, but yet that
Speaker 4: word gets thrown out their NonStop. And this leads me
Speaker 4: to my next text I wanted to read. This came
Speaker 4: out on the Ellenn Federal Credit Union text line five
Speaker 4: two six five three zero seven nineties the number if
Speaker 4: you want to join us. But he says, Nick, you
Speaker 4: called it after seeing what Tennessee did to us. I'm
Speaker 4: not watching. I'm now watching guys that transferred out that
Speaker 4: I know could really help us this season. I really
Speaker 4: wish Pat Kelsey would have considered keeping at least three
Speaker 4: of them. We talked about it last week, and you're right.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know if I called it and
Speaker 4: what I said last week or maybe it was earlier
Speaker 4: this week. I think it might have been Monday, was that.
Speaker 4: It may sound crazy to say this, but I believe it.
Speaker 4: Louisville last year and the year before when it comes
Speaker 4: to just god given talent, athleticism, raw and natural ability,
Speaker 4: those two teams that went four and twenty eight and
Speaker 4: eight and whatever, they'll go down as two of the worst,
Speaker 4: if not the two worst teams in the history of
Speaker 4: the program. But they are more talented than the team
Speaker 4: that Louisville has this year. Maybe not by wide margin,
Speaker 4: but you saw what that got you. Whenever it's not
Speaker 4: working and there's not a system in place and there's
Speaker 4: not a coach that holding people accountable, there's not a
Speaker 4: leader in charge. So you know, I didn't didn't. I
Speaker 4: didn't say that to invite you to go watch the
Speaker 4: guys who left and think about what could have been
Speaker 4: had they stuck around, because the way I mean it
Speaker 4: made total sense for that to play out the way
Speaker 4: it did. All the players wanted a fresh start, and
Speaker 4: that's understandable. And if you're Pat Kelsey, you're not gonna
Speaker 4: beg guys to stick around whenever you know that whatever
Speaker 4: was going on here is simply not gonna fly with
Speaker 4: the way you're running your program. But yeah, JJ Trainor
Speaker 4: had a big night for de Paul the other night.
Speaker 4: A long athletic, big experienced guy who really there's not
Speaker 4: a guy like that on this team for the Louisville
Speaker 4: cayleb Glenn. He's coming off the bench for FAU, but
Speaker 4: he's having a lot of success. He's got a pretty
Speaker 4: important role energy. The motor never stops with Caleb. So
Speaker 4: could those guys potentially stuck around and given this team
Speaker 4: a little more talent, a little more depth than athleticism. Sure,
Speaker 4: but I think one you can't do anything about it now.
Speaker 4: But I know I reiterated this many many times last
Speaker 4: year because what from the beginning, we knew this was
Speaker 4: gonna be Kenny's last year, and the conversation, probably starting
Speaker 4: in January, was all right, who do you want to keep?
Speaker 4: Who do you hope sticks around with the new coach?
Speaker 4: Who do you hope that the new coach just you know,
Speaker 4: tries to convince to stay. I mean, it was a
Speaker 4: talking point for the majority of the season because of
Speaker 4: how bad things were going. And yeah, there were guys
Speaker 4: that I would have, you know, been okay with if
Speaker 4: they stuck around, but I it made total sense for
Speaker 4: every player involved to read the room and just know
Speaker 4: that I need a friend start. This has been really
Speaker 4: a traumatic, toxic experience. One guy that I did not
Speaker 4: expect at all to you know, to have success, that
Speaker 4: is having success, Kuran Davis. I don't know if anybody
Speaker 4: has paid attention, and I think a lot of people
Speaker 4: know who Kuran Davis is. But if you don't, I
Speaker 4: guess I kind of get that too, because he never
Speaker 4: played a second for Louisville in a game, but he
Speaker 4: became a big talking point last year because of the
Speaker 4: unusual way in which Kenny Payne dealt with Kran Davis.
Speaker 4: And yet nobody seems to really know exactly what led
Speaker 4: to him being kicked off the team, and then he
Speaker 4: wasn't in trouble. I mean, that was a disastrous situation. Really,
Speaker 4: that was of the many things that were a disaster.
Speaker 4: The way that was handled was really a bad look
Speaker 4: for everybody involved. Then it really you know, starts with Kenny.
Speaker 4: But Kuran Davis hit twenty four points on nine to
Speaker 4: fifteen from the field for Louisiana Lafiette last week. I
Speaker 4: did not have that as as. I mean, I would
Speaker 4: have believed you if you told me Caron Davis never
Speaker 4: played college basketball. But he looked not only I mean,
Speaker 4: he was productive, but if you watch the highlights, it's
Speaker 4: a guy that's got a lot of ability. We're talking
Speaker 4: about a six six guard that's athletic, has good range,
Speaker 4: he's got some tools offensively, and we never got to
Speaker 4: see him play. Probably wouldn't have mattered, because again, you
Speaker 4: could have had Michael Jordan in his prime playing for
Speaker 4: Kenny Payin. I'm not sure would have meant much of anything.
Speaker 4: And I'm not exaggerating to be honest with you. So
Speaker 4: you know I don't have any feeling at all towards
Speaker 4: those guys and seeing them have success like it doesn't
Speaker 4: make me bitter. It doesn't make me wish they were here.
Speaker 4: But you know, if you are somebody that feels differently
Speaker 4: and you think otherwise, I'm not telling you wrong. It's
Speaker 4: just I knew all along that the likely scenario was
Speaker 4: that there's gonna be a new coach here and it's
Speaker 4: gonna be an entirely new team, and that's what we have.
Speaker 4: All right, let's take a quick break here. I want
Speaker 4: to manage this clock a little better than I have
Speaker 4: the first couple of hours, so we'll go and take
Speaker 4: a quick break here. We'll talk about a lot of
Speaker 4: things before we finished up. I do want to get
Speaker 4: to this survey that the Athletic did that had some
Speaker 4: surprises for me as far as how people are consuming
Speaker 4: their college football coverage this year, So we can certainly
Speaker 4: get to that and some non sports stuff, some nonsense.
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Speaker 4: the Internet didn't used to exist. But the way in
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Speaker 4: it's not a surprise. It's just you know, I can't relate.
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Speaker 4: All right, real quick before we roll along. This is
Speaker 4: another text that came in that I wanted to get
Speaker 4: real quickly here because I know there are people who
Speaker 4: are anxiously waiting to see how pack Kelsey's first recruiting
Speaker 4: class comes together. Again, Just like I said about football,
Speaker 4: there's not as much of a necessity in the freshman
Speaker 4: classes anymore, just because you know you can use the portal. However,
Speaker 4: you know, as we've learned, you need a good balance, right,
Speaker 4: I mean, if you have a young talent that may
Speaker 4: have some youthful mistakes throughout, maybe still cutting their teeth
Speaker 4: at this level, but they're playing alongside veterans. That could
Speaker 4: be a really good balance for you when you get
Speaker 4: to maybe January February. But this text says, with commitment
Speaker 4: time coming, don't you think that an upset against Tennessee
Speaker 4: would have potentially helped Kelsey land his first recruit in
Speaker 4: twenty twenty five? No way of knowing that. I mean,
Speaker 4: I hear what you mean. That would have been a splash,
Speaker 4: But to my knowledge, there's real quick I know I've
Speaker 4: said this before, but it's worth repeating. Given what we're
Speaker 4: talking about. Pack Kelse not getting elite recruits in his
Speaker 4: first year at Louisville is understandable. I wish he would
Speaker 4: get them, and maybe he will end up signing some
Speaker 4: some good players, but I mean proof of concept. Folks
Speaker 4: like Pat Kelsey is new to this level. He probably
Speaker 4: wasn't getting a whole lot of FaceTime with five star
Speaker 4: recruits when he was at Charleston. And I'm sure he
Speaker 4: can make a good impression. But for these guys to
Speaker 4: pull the trigger and say that's where I want to go.
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Speaker 4: I think it is understandable that they're gonna want to
Speaker 4: see what he does at this level before they decided
Speaker 4: to come to Louisville. Or maybe they just want a
Speaker 4: lot of money, and Louisl's got a lot of Nile money,
Speaker 4: so you know, I just if they don't end up
Speaker 4: getting a top twenty class in his first year's first
Speaker 4: time putting together a class, I mean that doesn't mean
Speaker 4: that you know, he's guaranteed to do it the next year,
Speaker 4: but like that to me, that I mean that makes
Speaker 4: sense because again, proof of concept is a real thing now.
Speaker 4: I think one of the recruits that Mark Pope landed
Speaker 4: here recently, one of his most recent commitments, that's a
Speaker 4: big time recruit. But it's also a guy that like
Speaker 4: for Kentucky like that in a different world, wasn't somebody
Speaker 4: they'd be over the moon about. And the other two
Speaker 4: guys that they got credit to Pope for taking advantage
Speaker 4: of it, But those guys probably would not have gone
Speaker 4: to Kentucky if it wasn't for Pope, and they were
Speaker 4: from Kentucky, so you know, and Kentucky has still been
Speaker 4: really good at getting players even though it wasn't Pope
Speaker 4: doing it. So, like I know, people are going to
Speaker 4: do the comparison, and I'm not here to tell you
Speaker 4: that a calm down. In a couple of years, Pat
Speaker 4: Kelsey's going to be bringing in five star after five star.
Speaker 4: None of us know. But if you really give it
Speaker 4: some thought, like recruits their families, they could love Pat
Speaker 4: Kelsey but not be willing to pull the trigger because
Speaker 4: you know, they want to see proof of concept, proof
Speaker 4: of Okay, yeah, I hear what you're selling, but I
Speaker 4: would like to have seen you do it at Louisville
Speaker 4: a little bit before I decide to come and play
Speaker 4: for you. Makes sense now, MIKEL. Brown Junior, I don't
Speaker 4: know where Louisville. I mean, last I had I talked
Speaker 4: to somebody last week who would know that said that
Speaker 4: he was the highest ranked recruit that they felt pretty
Speaker 4: good about. I believe might have been Trillie Donovan or
Speaker 4: maybe Travis Branham, who covered recruiting for twenty four seven Sports,
Speaker 4: mentioned that Louisville was in good shape there and if
Speaker 4: they had to guess, that's where they would assume he
Speaker 4: would end up. He's a point guard from from Florida
Speaker 4: and he's the number seven player in America. So he
Speaker 4: did visit Louisville earlier this year, and he's also considering Kentucky,
Speaker 4: but they've landed enough guards to where I would imagine
Speaker 4: he probably wouldn't go there. Ole Miss and Chris Beard
Speaker 4: appeared to be the biggest competition there, so you know,
Speaker 4: we'll see. You know, I don't want to act like
Speaker 4: a cruiting doesn't matter at all anymore, because it does.
Speaker 4: You want young I mean, you need if you can
Speaker 4: go get elite level freshmen, you need more than just that.
Speaker 4: But yeah, any any coach in the country would take
Speaker 4: an elite level freshmen if they can go get them.
Speaker 4: All right, So let's see here, Yeah, make sure I've
Speaker 4: got the right link. So the Athletic, which makes sense
Speaker 4: the Athletic. When I go to the Athletics website, it
Speaker 4: now shows New York Times, and it made me remember
Speaker 4: that New York Times actually acquired The Athletic long ago,
Speaker 4: and for the first time ever, it's actually a profitable website.
Speaker 4: And by the way, I never I don't. I don't
Speaker 4: even I don't even have any friends that work there anymore.
Speaker 4: I used to have a couple of buddies that work there,
Speaker 4: and they've since moved on to do other things, So
Speaker 4: I'm not This is not a plug that I'm getting
Speaker 4: paid for. This is not a paid endorsement. But if
Speaker 4: you're gonna pay, you know, a few bucks a month
Speaker 4: for premium content like writing and coverage and journalism, the
Speaker 4: Athletic is worth it. Like they do really really good work.
Speaker 4: And I know this day and age, you can you
Speaker 4: can get info anywhere without paying because people screenshot and
Speaker 4: it's just I don't know how anybody that does the
Speaker 4: pay model thinks they're going to be able to survive
Speaker 4: on that alone. But nonetheless, the Athletic does really good work.
Speaker 4: And they did this for the third straight year where
Speaker 4: they have asked college football fans readers of their website
Speaker 4: who consume a lot of college football content that they
Speaker 4: crank out. They asked them a handful of questions, and
Speaker 4: I just found these results to be pretty interesting. Again,
Speaker 4: I'll read directly from the article. It says our third
Speaker 4: annual College Football TV survey for the Athletic Readers. More
Speaker 4: than thirty seven hundred people were involved, from up from
Speaker 4: thirty one hundred a year ago. So thirty seven hundred
Speaker 4: people participated in this survey, and here are the results
Speaker 4: when it comes to the network that they prefer for
Speaker 4: a national game broadcast. So imagine watching the biggest college
Speaker 4: football matchup of the weekend, and sometimes they end up
Speaker 4: on ESPN, sometimes they end up on Fox. Sometimes they
Speaker 4: end up on NBC or CBS. No surprise, ESPN got
Speaker 4: the bulk of the volts, the bulk of the votes
Speaker 4: with sixty seven point eight percent, and then CBS got
Speaker 4: fifteen point three percent. Now I I would have I mean,
Speaker 4: I'm in the minority here. I actually think Fox. I
Speaker 4: love their coverage. I don't you know, I'm not necessarily
Speaker 4: a huge Big ten fan, so I don't watch a
Speaker 4: whole lot of it, but when I do, I'm always
Speaker 4: reminded that Fox has just as good a production value,
Speaker 4: in fact better than the ESPN if I'm being honest,
Speaker 4: and I think their analysts are really good, but they
Speaker 4: just don't usually have games that I'm really all that
Speaker 4: interested in. And they got Gus Johnson Joel Kladd. That's
Speaker 4: a good duo. It's not you know, it's not Herb
Speaker 4: Street and Fowler, but they're really good. In fact, I
Speaker 4: kind of prefer Fox. Not that I'm anti Herbstreet or
Speaker 4: anything like that. It's just you know, little variety every
Speaker 4: now and then. All right, So the conference network that
Speaker 4: was really close, forty six percent said that the SEC
Speaker 4: network does the best job. Forty two and a half
Speaker 4: percent said the Big ten. The ACC network only got
Speaker 4: eleven percent. Not a real surprise. There some other questions
Speaker 4: and I'm like to read the entire thing here, but
Speaker 4: as far as the best broadcast announcer team in a landslide,
Speaker 4: it was Fowler, Herb Street in Holly Row. I'm not surprised.
Speaker 4: But again I'm telling you, Gus Johnson, Joe Klatt, Jenny
Speaker 4: Taff they're probably better than you realize. I'm hot take.
Speaker 7: I don't love Gus Johnson as much as everybody else does.
Speaker 4: Well, it's hard to match the love that people have
Speaker 4: for him because people who love him really love him,
Speaker 4: and I'm with you sometimes it's a little you know,
Speaker 4: I've never bothered by him being you know, theatrical, because
Speaker 4: that's really what he mean. He brings a lot of energy,
Speaker 4: that's his thing. But you know, the in between is
Speaker 4: is not you know, it's whatever. It's not terrible, but
Speaker 4: it's you know, he he really wows you when he's
Speaker 4: screaming in a big moment and saying the exact thing
Speaker 4: that needs to be said. In between. You know, I
Speaker 4: can take here to leave it. I'll tell you who
Speaker 4: I really like. He's a little you know, he's a
Speaker 4: little much at times when he gets too excited. But
Speaker 4: everything else I think is really good. And I think
Speaker 4: he enhances a broadcast to where I feel like I'm
Speaker 4: watching a big time game that everybody else is into.
Speaker 4: And then it's Joe Test Joe Tessitur is great. There's
Speaker 4: a reason he was picked he was picked up. I mean,
Speaker 4: he's perfect for w W E raw right, and that's
Speaker 4: why the hired him. Fos don't know that he's not
Speaker 4: only doing big time college football games with Jesse Palmer
Speaker 4: and our own Katie George. He's also doing Monday at Raw,
Speaker 4: isn't it every week? Yeah, he's he's there like lead guy. Now. Yeah,
Speaker 4: they came in at number five with just four percent,
Speaker 4: And I think Joe Test Jesse Palmer probably is the
Speaker 4: most underrated trio that you could pick pick from him. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean I kind of felt like, before I really
Speaker 4: got a good dose of Jesse Palmer on TV, I
Speaker 4: thought I would find him to be, you know, a
Speaker 4: pretty boy that I would be annoyed by because he's
Speaker 4: probably way too handsome and you know, could see him
Speaker 4: being a snob. But he's actually been really good as
Speaker 4: far as let's see here. There's one about McAfee that
Speaker 4: I wanted to, uh to get to because him. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So it says pregame shows, do you prefer ESPN's College
Speaker 4: Game Day or Fox's Big Noon Kickoff? Eighty four percent
Speaker 4: said College Game Day? And I get it. I can't
Speaker 4: tell you that I've watched a whole lot of Big
Speaker 4: Noon Kickoff, but they're they're they're getting such a late
Speaker 4: start to try to compete with something that has become
Speaker 4: such a fixture within college football, that it's gonna they
Speaker 4: could be great, and it would probably not show in
Speaker 4: these surveys for a long time, just because again, like
Speaker 4: game day got better with saving, they got better by
Speaker 4: getting rid of who was it they got? They got,
Speaker 4: they got the boot. I can't think of who it was?
Speaker 4: A guy played from Michigan.
Speaker 7: Oh, Desmond Howard?
Speaker 4: No, not him? Or he's still on that? No, who's
Speaker 4: the who's the shorter guy? It's gonna drive me crazy.
Speaker 4: He didn't you know, he wasn't terrible, but he just
Speaker 4: didn't bring a whole lot to it. And saving is
Speaker 4: you know, saving, But this is that They asked a
Speaker 4: direct question, and I forgot that this was this was
Speaker 4: actually some controversial. This was somewhat controversial last year. They
Speaker 4: asked these who participated in the survey, how do you
Speaker 4: feel about Pat McAfee on college game Day? Like it,
Speaker 4: don't like it? No opinion? The leading choice was don't
Speaker 4: like it forty two point five percent interesting, thirty seven
Speaker 4: percent said like it. Twenty percent though, which isn't that
Speaker 4: far off, said they don't really it's whatever, no opinion.
Speaker 4: They don't, you know, take it or leave it as
Speaker 4: far as how they feel about Nick Saban, eighty percent
Speaker 4: said they like it, thirteen percent said they had no opinion,
Speaker 4: and then the rest was just don't like it. So
Speaker 4: clearly Saban has has a pretty good approval rating. But
Speaker 4: Pat McAfee last year he publicly expressed how much it
Speaker 4: bothered him that he was not like a unanimous approval.
Speaker 4: In fact, it was now he's yeah. It says here
Speaker 4: that the percentage of respondents who don't like his contribution
Speaker 4: to the show it dropped from forty eight point nine
Speaker 4: percent to forty two percent, so you know, he actually
Speaker 4: is doing better, but still the majority of people who
Speaker 4: are asked say they don't care for him on game day.
Speaker 4: And I kind of get it. I can't act like
Speaker 4: I hate mat, like McAfee doesn't do much for me
Speaker 4: one way or the other. And I get why his
Speaker 4: different way of going about it in that position is
Speaker 4: so appealing to many because it's just so different than
Speaker 4: what you're accustomed to for you know, people who do this. Sure,
Speaker 4: and in the game day pro pro pro audience.
Speaker 7: That he's yeah, that's him, I mean that's I feel
Speaker 7: like you can either go extreme one way or the
Speaker 7: other way with Pat McAfee.
Speaker 4: If you really like him or you don't. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: I I don't. Here's here's and again everybody's different, you know,
Speaker 4: not being as somebody who's not in any way close
Speaker 4: to the position. And I'll never be in the position
Speaker 4: that McAfee's in. But you know, I do have a platform.
Speaker 4: My job is to be a radio host and a broadcaster.
Speaker 4: And therefore, like I try not to publicly say that
Speaker 4: I do and don't like certain people to do it,
Speaker 4: because you know, it's really just about preference. You can
Speaker 4: be really good, like Pat McAfee could be great, and
Speaker 4: he is great. Look at look at his approval rating
Speaker 4: from his bosses. He makes a lot of money. But
Speaker 4: just because I'm not necessarily a big fan, it's not
Speaker 4: my cup of tea, doesn't mean that somebody's good or bad.
Speaker 4: It's just preference. Everybody's got their own preferences. So again,
Speaker 4: I'm not Disinpat McAfee. But one thing that has stood
Speaker 4: out to me is that I don't know where the
Speaker 4: entertainment value is. Like he's against the grain. He's different
Speaker 4: than most. He doesn't wear sleeves, he stands up, he curses,
Speaker 4: he you know, like I get it that he's different,
Speaker 4: but I don't get the entertainment value right. Like, I'll
Speaker 4: be honest with you, I think McAfee has a much
Speaker 4: bigger audience because of where he's at now. But I
Speaker 4: think he's very much a barstool sports kind of guy,
Speaker 4: but not nearly as entertaining. That's the way I see it.
Speaker 4: But again it's just me.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's just I mean, you hit the nail on
Speaker 7: the head, it's the against the grain, it's the customer,
Speaker 7: Like you got his I'm sure you heard the LSU
Speaker 7: chant that he got going. And he's got people saying
Speaker 7: that he's got Nick Saban coming out and saying the
Speaker 7: S word and stuff, and it's brought that kind of
Speaker 7: that that it's brought that kind of personality out of
Speaker 7: some people that's that's around him. But I personally don't
Speaker 7: even love him that much. Even on the WWE programming.
Speaker 7: I think he's kind of a little bit way too
Speaker 7: much now as as a love and respect for the
Speaker 7: game and the sport of pro wrestling, it is a sport.
Speaker 7: Shout out wrestling, shout out the wrestling. Like I understand
Speaker 7: the crossover in the eyes that it brings to the product.
Speaker 7: So I'm not mad at that. I just think that
Speaker 7: he is he's a little bit too much sometimes. I
Speaker 7: don't know if that's just me being like the old
Speaker 7: transitioning to the old man phase, but it's just kind
Speaker 7: of too much for me.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, here's the thing where he is going
Speaker 4: to appeal and have success is being the guy that
Speaker 4: he's always been. So at times I think he just
Speaker 4: it's just a little too much. Like sometimes you can
Speaker 4: just be chilling, man, you don't have to be so
Speaker 4: you know, animated. I will say this, I have a
Speaker 4: lot of respect for Nick Saban doing content as much
Speaker 4: as he's doing. It's not just Game Day. By the way,
Speaker 4: Pat McAfee has Saban on his show every Friday for
Speaker 4: like an hour or longer. I think and and it
Speaker 4: it's an interesting blend, but it actually, you know, say
Speaker 4: been leans into it. He doesn't, you know, because you'd
Speaker 4: ask me two years ago if I could see Nick
Speaker 4: Saban doing an hour's long broadcast with Pat mcabey, I
Speaker 4: would have said, absolutely not. There's no scenario he would
Speaker 4: want to be in his presence. But Saban's really become likable,
Speaker 4: and I think it's kind of always been that way.
Speaker 4: But he just didn't have a whole lot of personality,
Speaker 4: and you know, he was on top of the sport
Speaker 4: and a lot of people wanted to take Bama down,
Speaker 4: and unfortunately not many were able to do that. Last
Speaker 4: one and then I'll and then we need to get
Speaker 4: to a quick break here. This is one that really
Speaker 4: isn't surprising, but it's it's a tell as to where
Speaker 4: we how quickly things have changed when it comes to
Speaker 4: technology how we watch college football as far as how
Speaker 4: you how you connect to watch. Are you using satellite
Speaker 4: or cable? Are you a direct TV streamer or you know,
Speaker 4: Hulu Live for the first time since they've been doing this,
Speaker 4: And this doesn't represent everybody, but you know, it wouldn't
Speaker 4: shock me if you if you literally had the ability
Speaker 4: to get every single answer from college football fans how
Speaker 4: they watch it. They're court cutters, most of them. Forty
Speaker 4: percent of people who watch college football are watching it
Speaker 4: on YouTube TV, thirty seven point seven percent is cattle
Speaker 4: cattle cable and satellite, and then it's a big drop
Speaker 4: off after that you've got Hulu Plus and then DirecTV streams.
Speaker 4: So the cord cutters, I mean, I don't consider it
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Speaker 4: have a guide. I mean, the only difference is that
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Speaker 4: That's right, we were wrapping it up here on a
Speaker 4: Thursday afternoon, and again tonight in the NFL. I'm gonna
Speaker 4: take the Eagles minus four. Not as confident as I've
Speaker 4: been in other games, but I'm but I'm doing it.
Speaker 4: And then tonight in in college hoops, some decent games.
Speaker 4: Apparently I had I had the I had the wrong
Speaker 4: day pulled up because there are some good games tomorrow
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Speaker 4: great games on a Friday night. But in college hoops,
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Speaker 4: And then in the UH on the college hoops side
Speaker 4: of things, I'm actually gonna take Chattanooga minus eleven and
Speaker 4: a half against Morehead State. Okay, if you know, you
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Speaker 4: came to Louisville last week, and then Chattanooga really well
Speaker 4: coached and they're losing guys in the portal like everybody
Speaker 4: else at that level, but they're still rolling along, so
Speaker 4: I know, it's a lot of points, but they're at
Speaker 4: home and I think they're a lot better. So Chattanooga
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