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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome into another episode of the lolomit Cash Games podcast,

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Today's podcast is brought on by boy. I don't know

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how many messages I've gotten over the past three or

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four months about short stacking. It's also come up in

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my Patreon only a discord that we have a few times.

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Can I short stack to build up a bankroll? So

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a lot of people they take poker very seriously, but

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they just don't have the bankroll. And obviously, if you

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don't have a winning record, you're not going to get staked.

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Then I don't recommend getting staked anyway at low stakes.

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I mean, you're not going to be making that much

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money to begin with, and having to give away a

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significant portion of your earnings to a staker is not

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going to be conducive to you enjoying the game, trust me.

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So I've been asked a few things like is short

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stacking a good strategy to build a bankroll? And I

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would answer that question yes with a caveat or two.

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First caveat would be you have to be a person

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with great discipline and a person who's willing to play

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a very boring form of poker, folding a ton of hands.

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You're not in there getting all the glory of stacking

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somebody with the suited connector. Rarely, if ever, you're not

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getting all the glory of getting in there and stacking

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somebody with pocket douces. Rarely, if ever. I mean you know,

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times will present themselves occasionally where that might be possible,

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but for the most part, that's not what you're going

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to be about. You're going to be in there playing

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really good hands, very aggressively, and looking to get stacks in. Often.

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By often, I mean often in relation to the number

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of hands you play, not often in terms of we're

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always getting it in. But you're going to be playing

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a very small percentage of hands, and out of those

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small percentage of the times that you actually play a hand,

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you will be looking to get it in a very

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high percentage of those. And it's a very effective strategy.

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It is a relatively low variance version. It's low bankroll friendly,

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but it's just boring. It's very boring. People aren't going

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to like you. I don't like playing with short stacks.

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They make my job very difficult. If I'm at a

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table and I'm in a position where normally I'd be

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opening a pretty wide range in later positions and stuff.

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But I have this short stacker who knows what they're

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doing and they're three betting effectively and looking to get

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stacks in. It just really kurtaeils my ranges in what

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I plan to do in late position. I don't like them.

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That being said, most people, even good players, profitable players,

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don't know how to deal with short stackers effectively. They

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don't understand a lot of times on flop stets, short

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stackers are just priced in for draws and stuff with

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some hands that they play and they're just not folding it,

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so they'll be trying to you know, bluff or over

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bed or just just just a whole host of ways

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that they play shortstackers poorly. So that makes it very

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profitable for you. And then of course, the people who

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are clueless about poker, they never are going to play

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you properly to begin with, so it can be highly profitable.

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I'm reminded of a couple of things, and I've told

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this story a few times, and apologies if this episode

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goes a little bit long. I am gonna just hit

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the high points and the overall basics. There's a lot

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of details about ranges and BET sizes and three BET

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sizes and stuff that I'm going to leave down in

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the text portion of the podcast. So most podcasting apps

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bring it in, you can always just go over to

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you can always just go over to a different podcasting

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app and use it. I know it's kind of annoying,

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but what else can I say. So one of the

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stories I've told is about this older lady who is

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who lives down in Tampa, and several years ago asked

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me to help her with a strategy so she could

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add to her Social Security income and meager savings that

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she had so she retired. She tried on Social Security

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and like she doesn't have she didn't have like a

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big retirement plan otherwise, but she did have some meager

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savings that could help her, you know, boost times that

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she might come up short with her Social Security check

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and she asked me, you know, can I play poker

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and supplement it. I don't care about making a lot

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of money. If I just made a thousand dollars a month,

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I'd be ecstatic about it. Even five hundred dollars a month,

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I would just be incredibly at about it. And I'm like,

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for sure, you could do that. So we started her

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on a short stacking plan and she playing fifty big

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blind stacks, and within a very short period of time

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she starts doing very well, and she still does it.

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It's a job to her. She you know, worked her

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whole life. She knows that jobs aren't supposed to be

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fun and exciting and thrilling, so she wasn't really looking

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in to that. She just wanted to be able to

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show up to work every day and work her own hours.

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she didn't feel well or maybe she did want to

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go do something with her family. And it's worked out

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really well for her. She you know, I'm not going

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to get into her finances and everything, but she accomplishes

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the goal she wants to accomplish. Every month. She's been

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doing it now for several years. And you know, if

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she were somebody that were looking to build a bankroll,

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like that may be your goal. Where you have a

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job and you're working and you're paying your bills and

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you're trying to save some money to build your bankroll,

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you could also be doing a short sacking strategy and

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you could be growing your bankroll from there. You just

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continue to cycle that money through until you get a

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bankroll big enough you could play a little bit differently.

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I also have a guy who used to years ago

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in my local poker room, would play a short sacking

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strategy and he had I guess a mentor that showed

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him how to do it, and he did very well

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at it. He doesn't play that way anymore. He's a

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he's a reasonably good poker player, I guess when he

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wants to be as a tendency to gamble. But so

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I have clear examples of it, and it's sure for

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sure a viable strategy. So I'm going to hit the

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overall components to the core strategy, some general guidelines and stuff,

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and then if you want specifics ranges, pre flop raising sizes,

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three bit sizings and all this type stuff. You're gonna

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have to look down in the text and information section

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in your podcasting app for that. And if for some

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reason it doesn't show up or something like that, you know,

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shoot me a message on either Instagram or Facebook. It's

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a low limit cash games podcast con find me there

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and I'll try to help get it to you, but

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hopefully it'll just shop in your house. So let's get

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into it. What's the core strategy? How do you do

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this short stacking type of play to build a bankroll?

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So the core strategy is pretty simple. You want to

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be aggressive and value oriented, that's it. You're just looking

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to play a lot of value hands. You're looking to

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be very aggressive with them. You're looking to avoid marginal

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spots and trying to pull off post flock heroics like

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bluffs and hero calls and all this kind of stuff.

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And you're going to exploit the deeper stacks at the

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table who just over value hands that they have post flop,

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and since you're short stacked, they just will refuse to

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get away from hands where they're clearly behind. But basically,

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your fold equity plus your value, you're going to combine

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it together. And that's going to be your edge. So

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there's going to be spots where you know you'll be

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playing a hand, sometimes in a spot where you know

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you flop a pretty big draw or something of that

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of that sort, and your stack size will just dictate

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that you'll be shoving in a lot because it'll just

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be giving you direct odds to just draw to your hand,

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whereas if you were a lot deeper it would be

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a lot more complicated. Some real general guidelines for how

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to play the strategy. You know, anytime you've raised or

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three bat and you're seeing a flop, you want to

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be sea beatting a pretty decent percentage of the time

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when the board's very dry and disconnected and stuff. And

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then when you make it to turns, you want to

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be making kind of a jam or fold spot. Your

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spr should be lower at that point spr is stacked

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to pot ratio, but if it's going to be you know,

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for sure less than three, like less than two and

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a half, especially as it gets down to two. Stuff

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like that. When you get to these turns, you'll need

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to be making the decision on the turn based on

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your hand and what's going on. You just be jamming

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it or folding it most of the time, and your

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stacked pot ratio will dictate that you don't everyone to

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be slow playing top pairs and hands better like two

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pairs and things like that. Be ready to play for

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stacks and just look to pilot in if you can

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pilot it on the flop, pilot in, if you can

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pilot it on the turn pilot in. You want to

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value bet when you're against fish with very thin value,

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so you know top pair, second kicker, top pair, third

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kicker type hands. You know fish will call you down

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very light. So if you can recognize those players, you

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can bet those with not necessarily the most premium of hands,

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just you know the old top pair hands will do

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not even with top kicker. And you just rarely, if

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ever want to bluff, like the spots you'll be bluffing

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in will be very slim. I guess maybe your continuation

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bets when you miss or you flop some kind of

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equity and it's a semi bluff type thing, be mostly

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the extent of your bluffing. We're just not looking to

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run things like that. There's no fancy schmancy post flot play.

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There's no fancy smancy pre flat play, we're playing very

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strong hands, we're playing them very aggressively, and there we're

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looking to hit flops and stuff where we can either

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get it in on flops or get it in on turns.

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So we'll just think of it as zones. If your

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spr is in the one to two range, you're just

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gonna be stacking off with one pair of hands, good

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one pair hands, so over pairs, top pair, top kicker

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type hands, that stuff, you're just going to be stacking off.

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I mean, you got fifty big ones that that's what

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you're doing. As you get a little deeper, maybe you

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have a three to five stacked to pot ratio, you

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be a little bit more cautiously. You can fold these

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top pair top kicker type hands. When you're facing really

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big aggression from like knits or players who are play

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very face up, like when they're betting and betting big,

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they got it. Obviously. If you're against some kind of

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an ag lagger type person, you know, maybe you consider

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call them in spots like that, but that will require

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you really pay attention to who you're playing and when

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you're lots deeper, so your SPO is a lot deeper,

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will say, greater than five or something. You just don't

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want to be stucking off unless you've got like sets, straights, flushes,

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combo draws, you know, fifteen out plus draws, things like that.

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passive players, you want to be able to be really tight.

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You want to value bet them relentlessly, and you're just

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not going to be bluffing these people. Just don't bluff them.

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They're not folding up, folding middle pairs, some of them

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won't full bottom pair. It's just now point and bluffing

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these people. And then the opposites. When you're in the

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hand versus your typical aggressive type rag so these are

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usually considered the better players at the table. They may

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or may not be winners. You want a three bet

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very much tighter. You want to be kind of trapping them,

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getting them to bet at you, when you're at very

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top of rains and spots where you can do that.

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The reason I say that is because you'll never be

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so deep that trapping gets you into a lot of trouble.

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Like you can trap some flots sometimes with bottom two

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and bottom set on a lot of times when normally

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you maybe you would be considered raising. What people don't

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really understand is, you know when when you have like

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you say, pocket sixes and the flop comes like you know,

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King ninety six with two hearts and your opponent's you know,

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has a lot or just say ace ace nine six

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or something, so your opponent has a lot of acex

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or King x, and they're probably betting for value. You know,

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when you're deep running deep normal sized stacks, you'll be

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raising that off on the flop because it's hard for

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them to fold those big hands like that, and you

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want to be trying to get all the money in somehow,

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like we need to start building the bot really big.

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When you're starting out with fifty big mines, getting all

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the money in is not a problem. It's she's not

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going to be that hard and they're never going to

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be reverse adding you that much for hitting stuff on you.

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The times that you know, like to just call with

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your you know, bottom set or middle set or something

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rather than shipping it. But still mostly you do want

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to be getting it in anytime you think you can

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get in and get called. When you have a handle

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on that for sure, do it rules aside to throw

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it out in the window and do a lot more

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check raising in spots that you can, because this will

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allow you to either just get it in on the

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flop for sure, get it on the turn, because again

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that's your goal. Your goal is to do a lot

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of getting it in on the flop and getting in

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it on the turn. So that's kind of like the

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general overall strategy. So now in the text portion of

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this podcast, I posted some what I think your decent

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opening ranges. I posted it for a nine handed game,

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so if you're playing it one of these places it

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plays eight handed games under the gun, one will be

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here under the gun. But if you're playing in a

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nine handed game, under the gun is under the gun.

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But you'll notice I've got like an eight percent range

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for under the gun, like he's very very tight. And

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then I think something that maybe I left out. Maybe

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I'll add it in the the text session, but I

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think that I I did put it in here. But

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you want to be you want to be in here

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check raising pre fought with a very very very linear

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range like top of range. You don't want to be

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in here. Three bet bluffing like you're not deep enough

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stacks for that, you don't have enough playability for that.

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So there's none of this. So I'm gonna three bet

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him with the Ace five suited. There's none of this,

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so I'm gonna three bet him with the five six suited. Sometimes,

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you know, leave all that for the full size stacks

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and you just three bet linear ranges. And I know

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what you're thinking, Boy, I'll become predictable. People will start

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folding to me. I won't get any action. I mean,

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so you know, after some period of time you may

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start seeing some of that, but people will still continue

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to give you action. Like maybe some people will back

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off on giving you action, but there'll still be plenty

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of people that will give you action. The bigger the

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room you play in, the less an issue that is,

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the smaller room you play in, the more of an

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issue that is. But that just comes along with playing

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short stack, dude. That's just a function of the style

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that you are choosing to play, and so you just

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accept it as part of it. So if you look

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down in the notes section or whatever, we're gonna have

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those opening ranges for you. We're gonna have some pre

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flop raise sizings, and some guidelines and stuff for three

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betting and position out of position and stuff like that,

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and a little bit of stuff on playing post flop,

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how to navigate maybe through low spr's highest prs, you know,

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jam spots and things like that. I'm not going to

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go through that on the pod because i still want

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the pod to be really long. So I hope that's

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answered all the many questions I've gotten about short stacking,

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especially short sacking as it applies to trying to use

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it to build a bankroll when you just don't have

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the bankroll that you really need right now. A reminder,

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I would invite you to come over to Lowland cash

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have to memorize the name of the Patreon lowlanmitcash games

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just set up this new free tier, so all you

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got to do is have a Patreon account and then

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you can just follow my account and you will see

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the stuff I'm starting to put up for free. We

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got the five dollars tier. If you're a fan of

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the pod, if you want to get a detailed, actionable,

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five bucks and I really appreciate it. Keeps me inspired

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to keep coming up with things every single Sunday. Let

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me tell you, I've been doing this for four or

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five years now. It's hard to keep coming up with

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stuff like it's not garbage, it's really hard. And so

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you know, just your five dollars chipping in buying me

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a cup of coffee thing really keeps me motivated to

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keep doing that. So those would be accessed in a

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different type way, but that's over there. Obviously are full

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blown training with the videos and the pods and all

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that type stuff. Is just twenty five dollars a month.

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Twenty five dollars a month. That's half or less of

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anybody out there doing this. How do I do it

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that cheap? Because by information isn't any good because it's garbage. No,

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it's because I'm a one man show. I produce all

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the I don't hire anybody to produce content. I don't

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pay web designers, I don't pay for web hosting, I

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don't pay for credit card processing. I don't pay for

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text to come fix problems. Like Patreon handles all about

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stuff for me. Now, it's a little annoying sometimes when

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somebody comes to me with an issue with logging, like

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I had that happen today. Somebody came to me, well,

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I got to I want to use a different email address,

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and I'm like, look, I don't know anything about that.

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Patreon handles that. That's how I make this so cheap,

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So contact their support and they'll help you through it.

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I wish I could help you, but I just can't.

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I don't handle any of that touch stuff. And then,

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of course we have the top tier, which is the

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one on one coaching tier. I got to tell you,

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people stay in that for very long periods of time.

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Most of the people are highly successful. In the history

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of me doing it, I've only ever had one person

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drop out immediately. I had a guy, I guess it's

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probably been a year and a half ago now joined

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for a month and left. He was very argumentative and combative.

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It kind of seemed like he wanted to teach me

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how to play. I don't know it wasn't a fit.

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I didn't make it leave he left on it zon.

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I've had people that have been in that tier for

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year and a half, have people that's been in that

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year tier for two years. A couple of them are

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so good. I'm like, I don't know why you keep

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paying me one hundred dollars a month. And they always say,

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the advice you give and they help you give, and

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these sessions are making me one hundred dollars a month,

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so it's not really cost them anything. So spots don't

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come up often. For the one hundred dollars tier. I

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keep them very limited. Right now. I have them limited

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to eight, and I think i've I mean, it's the

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most I've ever had. Sometimes I'll just I'll drop it

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down to six because I don't want to over extend,

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don't want to be able to give you a ton

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of my time. Of course, you get access to the

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discord and all that in any of the tiers. So

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Low Lemon Cash Games dot Com love to have you

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over there. Let me try to help you become a

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winning poker player at your card room and your home game.

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We're coming up on the twenty minute mark, which is

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my goal. For these pods. We've nailed it again today.

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Look forward to talking to you in the next episode.

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We'll see you then