Speaker 1: He's a gentleman. Welcome back to my family, Think Some
Speaker 1: Crazy podcast and the one on one podcast. People who
Speaker 1: know this show know that Wan and I have done
Speaker 1: a ton of shows together, Illuminati Confirmed, Library of the
Speaker 1: Mystagogue and all these other shows. The completion of the
Speaker 1: fulcon Ellie Affair, Bro, get it right, the completion of
Speaker 1: the fulcon Ellie Affair. Well, we called it the other
Speaker 1: name for like one episode, so stuck. But anyways, welcome back.
Speaker 1: It's been only a few weeks since you were last
Speaker 1: on the show. But last time we were on the show,
Speaker 1: we were getting into a little bit about John D.
Speaker 1: And then I don't know if it was that same
Speaker 1: week or maybe I just watched it afterwards, but something
Speaker 1: about John D and Florida came up when you were
Speaker 1: doing a show with Doctor Narco Longo, and I don't
Speaker 1: think we really touched on that last time you're on
Speaker 1: the show. So welcome back. Let's get into some local
Speaker 1: Florida stuff. I know you've been focusing on that lately.
Speaker 1: Aside from that, how.
Speaker 2: Have you been doing good? Bro? Thanks for having me back.
Speaker 2: It was fun last time. It was one of the
Speaker 2: first episodes that I did after my hiatus that I
Speaker 2: took some time off, and I'm going at my pace.
Speaker 2: You know, some people are messaging me like, hey, are
Speaker 2: you gone again? Because I hadn't put out an episode
Speaker 2: in a couple of weeks. But hey, I'm here. You
Speaker 2: just gotta bear with me, okay, because we're very busy.
Speaker 2: We're very busy over here in the Garden of Eden,
Speaker 2: which is Florida. And yeah, so I've been doing a
Speaker 2: lot of Florida stuff with Narcolongo obviously old World Florida,
Speaker 2: and yeah, we're getting into the weeds. So apparently John
Speaker 2: D had written a letter stating that the Crown had
Speaker 2: stake in the what the United States is now so
Speaker 2: North America, essentially because of certain mythological legends. Then he
Speaker 2: names Florida as a landing place of I forget who
Speaker 2: the guy is, but I have to look it up here.
Speaker 2: But it was a legendary. I have to find the
Speaker 2: name here. But yeah, he talks about it in a letter.
Speaker 2: And it's interesting because John D, aside from all his
Speaker 2: other craziness that he was, he was obviously a magician
Speaker 2: and all these things. He was also very much into cartography.
Speaker 2: And I've speculated that cartography is another form of magic
Speaker 2: because it uses the grid system. And he I mean
Speaker 2: he was very close friends with Mercader, and I mean
Speaker 2: he was one of the leading people when it came
Speaker 2: to cartography. But I feel like the grid system because
Speaker 2: when you look at the Enochian magic, it uses a
Speaker 2: lot of grids, a lot of grid system, a lot
Speaker 2: of numbers and things like that. And I've always speculated
Speaker 2: because they they would talk to these entities, these watchers
Speaker 2: of these corners of the world essentially, and it almost
Speaker 2: makes me think like today where we have people talking
Speaker 2: about Palatine and all these companies that are watching everybody
Speaker 2: from you know, all the corners of the globe. You know,
Speaker 2: from all the corners of the globe. They're watching everybody.
Speaker 2: And I feel like the occult I've said this before,
Speaker 2: was the original surveillance state, was the original deep state?
Speaker 2: Like that to me, that's what that was. And maybe
Speaker 2: who knows, Maybe they were so many angels and demons
Speaker 2: and things like that, but I think maybe that was
Speaker 2: a byproduct, right, Maybe they were trying to make up
Speaker 2: a system so encrypted that it turned out to be legitimate,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, Hey, let's go ahead
Speaker 2: and trying to encode our words between one another, and
Speaker 2: then boom, there's a demon or there's an angel, like, oh,
Speaker 2: we just discovered a new language, you know, because I
Speaker 2: mean you hear that time and time again, and even
Speaker 2: in the occult books. In the literature, it says that
Speaker 2: only the initiates know what the says. The text looks
Speaker 2: one way to the uninitiated, and when the initiate looks
Speaker 2: at it, they see something completely different. So what does
Speaker 2: that tell me? That tells me a secret society of
Speaker 2: certain people who are involved in whatever operation that know
Speaker 2: how to read whatever is being presented. And what a
Speaker 2: better way to occult something to then make it all spooky, like, hey,
Speaker 2: don't look into this because then you'll summon angels, right,
Speaker 2: you'll summon a demon. Meanwhile, it's the system that they're
Speaker 2: using to communicate with one another, and that's why they
Speaker 2: don't want you to look at it. You get what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. It's like, it's like it's like, what is
Speaker 2: that red button? Who don't touch that red button? You
Speaker 2: want to touch the red button, you know, no matter
Speaker 2: how many times they tell you not to. So, but yeah,
Speaker 2: John D And I'll find the legend now that he
Speaker 2: talks about.
Speaker 1: It's interesting because you're reminding me of a conversation I
Speaker 1: had with a woman named Maria Wheatley who studies lay
Speaker 1: lines geomancy or father was a geomancer and dowser, and
Speaker 1: she talked about how lay lines can be created and
Speaker 1: how energy flows in straight lines. So what you're saying
Speaker 1: is that this grid that was created by John d
Speaker 1: essentially it sounds like what you're saying is they created
Speaker 1: like a neural network through which they were then able
Speaker 1: to spread things like the idea of the British Empire,
Speaker 1: the English language, the English commerce system, like all these
Speaker 1: things that have led us to the footstep or the
Speaker 1: doorstep of globalism and this new world order. You know,
Speaker 1: it starts with them mapping everything out and using England
Speaker 1: or Greenwich specifically as the center point of their map.
Speaker 1: I mean that's significant, right. I mean this so in
Speaker 1: another essence, by sending these I kick sort of lines out,
Speaker 1: casting them out, you're almost like reeling in, uh, the
Speaker 1: energy from those places, thus exploring it or controlling it
Speaker 1: before you even step in the territory. Is this kind
Speaker 1: of what you're suggesting they did by mapping out these
Speaker 1: places and sort of projecting their will across the world.
Speaker 2: Bro. Yeah, I've talked about that where where. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: think that it is a magical sort of grid in
Speaker 2: a view. Because the whole, the whole reason they wanted
Speaker 2: to go to Prague, according to some of the legends,
Speaker 2: is because there were there was right, they were using
Speaker 2: the sigil of a met and they were having very
Speaker 2: powerful seances when it came to using this sigil, and
Speaker 2: I'm sure a lot of people I've seen it. I
Speaker 2: pull it up, the sigil of of a met And
Speaker 2: according to some legends, when they were traveling to Prague,
Speaker 2: there was a life size sigil near Prague on some
Speaker 2: of the hill and they were like, hey, wait a minute,
Speaker 2: if we're using this, what this one made out of
Speaker 2: wax on our desk? What happens if we if we
Speaker 2: use one the size of a football field? Now we're
Speaker 2: cooking with gas? Right, So that was one of their
Speaker 2: motives to go to Prague because essentially what the angels
Speaker 2: were telling John, Diana or Kelly to do was to
Speaker 2: create a one world order under one a new world religion,
Speaker 2: which was the Kabbala, the Christiankabbala, that's that was their goal,
Speaker 2: and that's why they went to Prague and Rudolf the Second.
Speaker 2: They were like, hey, you're possessed by demons. And if
Speaker 2: it was any other emperor, bro, they would have had
Speaker 2: their heads cut off. But it was because it was
Speaker 2: Rudolph the Second, who was a very eccentric guy who
Speaker 2: had a collection of midgets. You ever hear that story
Speaker 2: that he collected midget He was he was obsessed with midgets.
Speaker 1: I think nowadays we call this human trafficking, but yeah,
Speaker 1: he collected.
Speaker 2: He collected Sorry, sorry, little people. Okay, I don't want
Speaker 2: to be offensive. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I also call them little people. So he human trafficked
Speaker 1: little people play in his monasie. Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 2: Yes, And he came up with, right the Cabinet of curiosities,
Speaker 2: the coon scammers what they call it. So this is
Speaker 2: a guy who enjoyed the weirdness. He was into all
Speaker 2: of it. And because of that, he spared them. He
Speaker 2: told them to, you know, pretty much, go away or
Speaker 2: else we will kill you. But he gave him a chance, like, hey,
Speaker 2: you guys can chill out for a little bit, but
Speaker 2: you guys got to go after this and so yeah,
Speaker 2: they were like.
Speaker 1: In my haunted Castle, but don't stay too long.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly exactly because then Edward Kelly got into a
Speaker 2: fight with some guy and I think he ended up
Speaker 2: stabbing a guy to death. Something crazy happened. Anyways, they
Speaker 2: were like, if we have these, if we're able to
Speaker 2: do this with you know, this little sigil, imagine we're
Speaker 2: able to amplify that, Like what are what will be
Speaker 2: we be able to do if if we can make
Speaker 2: it bigger? Right, So that was one of the main things.
Speaker 2: And using the lay of the land. I mean, we've
Speaker 2: seen all these conspiracies of the thirty third parallel right
Speaker 2: latitude thirty three. You know the Saddam Hussein's palace was
Speaker 2: on the thirty three point three three pair, you know
Speaker 2: the longitude blah blah blah. We've heard all this stuff
Speaker 2: where there is these lay lines that have energy. All
Speaker 2: the Death Row states are along the thirty third parallel,
Speaker 2: Like all the weirdness happens along the thirty third parallel.
Speaker 2: Like we've heard that over and over again. Then you
Speaker 2: have the freemasonic connection to it. Disney World, I'm sorrying
Speaker 2: not Disney World, but disney Land is on the thirty third,
Speaker 2: Disney World is on the twenty eighth, and the twenty
Speaker 2: eighth apparently in I think it's in I forgot which
Speaker 2: sort of secret society, it's the degree of the Sun,
Speaker 2: which makes sense because Florida is the sunshine state, right, yeah.
Speaker 1: So anyways, in I'm Disneyland, right, thirty third degree, it's Anaheim, California,
Speaker 1: And yes, it's the Florida one.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Walter Bosley wrote the book The latt of two
Speaker 2: thirty three where they have the Ferris Wheel, not the
Speaker 2: first World, the the Merry go Around on the thirty third,
Speaker 2: which if you look at so Walt Disney World or
Speaker 2: Walt Disney in general, it essentially was a lot of
Speaker 2: the old like so that Mary go Around was part
Speaker 2: of the one of the world's fairs, and they have
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff. So essentially, if you look at Disney,
Speaker 2: it's like an endless world fair, right, and like all
Speaker 2: the world fairs, everyone's tartaria, right, like this advanced technology
Speaker 2: that we don't know who built these cities and there
Speaker 2: was no people, like a lot of people use that.
Speaker 2: But if you look at that, you know it's an
Speaker 2: endless world fair. Essentially, when you go to disney World
Speaker 2: or Disneyland or or dude, they're they're international now, they're
Speaker 2: freaking Paris, Japan, China, They're all over the place. And
Speaker 2: you have Club thirty three at Disney too, which apparently
Speaker 2: Walt Disney was a m LA, which is the essentially
Speaker 2: the children's equivalent of Freemasonry, right, so it's like the
Speaker 2: Boy the Freemasonic Boy Scouts essentially is what it is,
Speaker 2: which is really weird, but whatever, and so, yes, the
Speaker 2: system that they set up, I believe had there's a
Speaker 2: really great book that I have to find the name of.
Speaker 2: It's The Cartographer as the Magician, and I did I
Speaker 2: did a I'm sorry, I did an architect as Magician
Speaker 2: episode and I interviewed the guy who wrote it. And
Speaker 2: what's interesting is that a lot of these professions like
Speaker 2: guys that would you know architecture. Obviously I work with architecture.
Speaker 2: I'm fascinated by architecture. I've talked about the Pythagorean palace
Speaker 2: idea and the Pythagoreans they ruled number. All the things
Speaker 2: that we've talked about are ruled by numbers, and the
Speaker 2: Pathagorians believed that numbers were gods essentially that number that
Speaker 2: god was a number perfection. And the Pathagorean Palace, which
Speaker 2: in the same line of thinking, I'm like, hey, we
Speaker 2: get a bigger sigil, maybe we can get a bigger
Speaker 2: demon sort of thing, or like a bigger angel, the
Speaker 2: Pathagoaan Palace. They believe that if you built so that
Speaker 2: these buildings, this architecture that's so beautiful of the past,
Speaker 2: it wasn't just built like that for no reason. It
Speaker 2: was built like that because it's beautiful, number one, but
Speaker 2: also there was under a culted lines beneath that. And
Speaker 2: even when you look at a like a blueprint of
Speaker 2: a building or something, there's a lot of occulted things
Speaker 2: behind a building that you don't see in the finished product. Right,
Speaker 2: So the occulted blinds of these buildings, in my opinion,
Speaker 2: was uh, and not my opinion, there's actual books in
Speaker 2: literature about this. Uh. Some people believe that if you
Speaker 2: built a building to a certain geometric form, you could
Speaker 2: achieve a higher level of consciousness and elevate the consciousness
Speaker 2: of the people within that building, whoever occupied that. But
Speaker 2: that's why Freemasonic lodges are built the way that they're built,
Speaker 2: and that's why a lot of buildings were built the
Speaker 2: way that they were built.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now this is making me think of So we're
Speaker 1: built in the image of God. Right, this is the
Speaker 1: immemorial phrase that you hear Bible that man is ima
Speaker 1: jodo in image of God. So thusly, when we create
Speaker 1: a building that has this higher vibration, it is also
Speaker 1: in the form of a man.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Yes, Now we have the head, the two arms, and
Speaker 1: two legs, and then the center holding it all together. Right,
Speaker 1: this is that five pointed star that is universe. Well
Speaker 1: it's yeah, we see it in the truvia and men.
Speaker 1: But the star itself, I mean, not only are our hands,
Speaker 1: you know, five pointed, but the star instinctively and intuitively,
Speaker 1: children will draw it always as a five pointed star,
Speaker 1: not a four, three, six, seven, or eight pointed star.
Speaker 1: There's all sorts of pointed stars, you know, there's twelve
Speaker 1: pointed stars, but for some reason, that five pointed star
Speaker 1: resonates with us. And I just found this out recently.
Speaker 1: Did you know that fruits, generally, most fruits, I think
Speaker 1: all plants that have fruit that we can eat, their
Speaker 1: flowers will have five petals. Right, So there's like this
Speaker 1: coded message that this fifth level of density, right, and
Speaker 1: people say that, you know, human beings, we are sort
Speaker 1: of special even when it comes to the metaphysics where
Speaker 1: we're in the third dimension, but we can access higher dimensions,
Speaker 1: which is not something that these entities can do. They're
Speaker 1: kind of trapped to which ever dimension they're in, whether
Speaker 1: that's the fourth or the fifth. But we can access
Speaker 1: the fourth and be you know, affected by things in
Speaker 1: the fifth. And I wonder, you know, if that five geometry,
Speaker 1: that five pointed geometry, I mean, if you think about it,
Speaker 1: the most powerful building in the world, the Pentagon, Pentony
Speaker 1: of America, because you know, killing force is it's it's
Speaker 1: embodying this same geometry of the pent you know, the pentagram,
Speaker 1: the Pentagon, the most feared symbol is an upside down pentagram,
Speaker 1: you know, because that's man hanging upside down.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So it's super deep, this geometry. And I'm assuming that's
Speaker 1: kind of where you're going with that, But maybe there's more.
Speaker 1: Maybe there's more there with the occult lines of architecture.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so essentially to bring it all, you know together,
Speaker 2: if you can create a building to elevate the consciousness
Speaker 2: of people within it, to a higher level. What happens
Speaker 2: when you build a city to a certain geometric proportion,
Speaker 2: what happens when you build an entire state or a town. Right,
Speaker 2: there's levels to this, and you can make it bigger
Speaker 2: and bigger. But I believe that at the same time,
Speaker 2: if you're able to elevate people people's consciousness, you can
Speaker 2: also bring it down and suppress people. Right, because the
Speaker 2: pendulum sings both ways. It could go good or it
Speaker 2: could go bad. And I think that part of a
Speaker 2: lot of these fifteen minute cities and a lot of
Speaker 2: this brutalistic architecture that we see nowadays especially is is
Speaker 2: by design to bring us down a little bit. And
Speaker 2: it's interesting because on our next episode here on Thursday,
Speaker 2: Narco and I are going to be talking about the
Speaker 2: Florida Skunk Ape, which, by the way, there's gonna be
Speaker 2: a skunk Ape and Grand Theft at All six and
Speaker 2: Grand Theft Dottle six is based off of Florida.
Speaker 1: So they go back to Miamivice style.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, dude, So it's gonna be based off it's
Speaker 2: gonna be modeled after So think about that. They're gonna
Speaker 2: do a micro cosm of a macro cosm. Florida is
Speaker 2: already weird. Bro. You have the Miami Causeway Cannibal. You
Speaker 2: ever hear about that case in twenty and twelve. I
Speaker 2: think it was.
Speaker 1: Isn't that the bath somewhat made baths? Yes, amos, yes, bro.
Speaker 2: When I when I first saw that story, that creeped
Speaker 2: me out, the fact the concept that somebody can just
Speaker 2: bite somebody's eat their face off, Bro, that happened in Florida,
Speaker 2: like what people are capable of. So that's where you're
Speaker 2: that's like the og Florida man like, that's the and
Speaker 2: before that, I mean there was Florida men doing Florida
Speaker 2: men stuff, you know in the eighteen hundreds when when
Speaker 2: Florida was the last frontier. But they're taking a micro cosm,
Speaker 2: they're you know, that's based off of a macro right,
Speaker 2: and if we follow the principles of similarity right things
Speaker 2: like that, I think that that has some sort of
Speaker 2: effect on reality, like on the bigger one. And it's
Speaker 2: interesting because part of this architecture and this this whole thing,
Speaker 2: the reason that they literally and I know you don't
Speaker 2: want to hear this, but they literally viewed buildings as homunculous.
Speaker 2: Now hear me out and they literally say it word
Speaker 2: for word. It's a homunculous born. They looked at the
Speaker 2: building itself as a homunculous why because the way that
Speaker 2: they saw it was the idea of the building was born.
Speaker 2: And this is why architects were looked at as magicians.
Speaker 2: The idea of a building was born through what through
Speaker 2: the ether, and it got impregnated into their mind. Right.
Speaker 2: So what it goes from their mind to a piece
Speaker 2: of paper, right, So they're manifesting. They're manifesting something into reality.
Speaker 2: So it goes from an idea onto paper, onto blueprints,
Speaker 2: and then from that blueprint they make models, right, So
Speaker 2: these little models, they're essentially homunculous, right, and then they
Speaker 2: birth the actual building into it. And this is all
Speaker 2: in this book, by the way, you can look it up.
Speaker 2: It's called Pythagorean Palaces. It was written in nineteen seventy
Speaker 2: four by George R. Hersey. It's one of my favorite books.
Speaker 2: And all this is stuff is in here. Whenever I
Speaker 2: talk about look at this six hundred and sixty six previews.
Speaker 2: So I was the six hundred and sixty six just
Speaker 2: now Pythagoreaan Palaces, Magic and the architect Chure and the
Speaker 2: Italian Renaissance. And this was written in nineteen seventy six.
Speaker 2: And when I talked about this book for the first time,
Speaker 2: I bought this book for seventy dollars. It's going for
Speaker 2: like four hundred dollars right now, okay, And whenever I
Speaker 2: talk about it goes up in price. Okay. So I
Speaker 2: have a copy you can pick. I don't know what
Speaker 2: your copy of. But anyways, this book is crazy because
Speaker 2: it gets into all the stuff I'm talking about now.
Speaker 2: So they birth this model and they build the building
Speaker 2: right and according to some magic. And this is in
Speaker 2: this book though. Whatever effect that they do to the
Speaker 2: model happens in the real building. So think about that, right,
Speaker 2: whatever effect that they do to the model, if they're
Speaker 2: doing like for example, if you do like a This
Speaker 2: is why mind palaces are important too, because a lot
Speaker 2: of these buildings were used as not only an actual palace,
Speaker 2: but also a mind palace. And for those that don't
Speaker 2: know about the mind palaces, you know, you build a
Speaker 2: palace or a building in your mind and you're able
Speaker 2: to it's for memory recall, and you're able to recall
Speaker 2: things from your memory by populating every different room. So
Speaker 2: you essentially walk in to this building in your mind's
Speaker 2: eye and then you put stuff up on the walls
Speaker 2: or whatever, and you're supposed to do it with a
Speaker 2: building that you're familiar with. Okay. So the way I've
Speaker 2: heard it put is that whenever whatever effect that they
Speaker 2: have either in their mind palace or their little model,
Speaker 2: has an effect on the real place. So think about that.
Speaker 2: If we're taking a model of a place and it's
Speaker 2: affecting the real place in reality. Now it's plugging Grand
Speaker 2: Theft at six. They're making a model of Miami, Florida, okay,
Speaker 2: where people are gonna interact online, they're gonna play with
Speaker 2: it every single day. What do you think that's gonna
Speaker 2: happen at the real place in the real area. And
Speaker 2: it's already a crazy place, bro if you go to Miami,
Speaker 2: there's no place like Miami. And I hate Miami, Okay,
Speaker 2: there's no place like it. It's gonna get crazier, Okay.
Speaker 2: And that's why I'm like, there's a reason maybe why
Speaker 2: they picked and they could have picked any other city.
Speaker 2: They could have picked New York City. They could have
Speaker 2: picked San Francisco. They could have picked Dallas, anywhere anywhere else. No,
Speaker 2: how to be Miami.
Speaker 1: Well, that's like superposition and quantum physics in a way,
Speaker 1: like you create a mimic or close copy of something,
Speaker 1: and so close that it actually resonates on that yes frequency,
Speaker 1: maybe albeit in a different scale, you know, it's scaled
Speaker 1: into this computer world rather than our physical world. But
Speaker 1: still like the idea that that can affect. I mean,
Speaker 1: with that in mind, it's not just a video game
Speaker 1: or a physical three D model, but anything that takes
Speaker 1: you to a place, you know, fiction, so on and
Speaker 1: so forth. These are all, I think evidence of our
Speaker 1: ability as creative you know forces.
Speaker 2: So check out, check out this this passage. Broll's hard
Speaker 2: to cut you off here because bro Hersey goes in
Speaker 2: and Ficino is one of those guys, right, So we
Speaker 2: have here for a Facino takes up the second virtuous notions, etcetera, etcetera.
Speaker 2: Let me find it here, he goes hard in the
Speaker 2: pain for Ficcino. A building is a model both of
Speaker 2: the human intellect and of the cosmos. Designing and erecting
Speaker 2: a building helps us understand the way we think and
Speaker 2: act These activities also help us understand the way God
Speaker 2: thought and acted when he created the universe and mankind.
Speaker 2: This is true for an Alberti like in Alberti was
Speaker 2: another famous architect. Alberti like reason because architecture is at
Speaker 2: once so mathematical and so material. Indeed, after mathematics itself,
Speaker 2: architecture is the highest of the sciences. By imposing mathematical
Speaker 2: form on matter whose natural state is formless, man imitates
Speaker 2: God and struggles against what might be called the entropy
Speaker 2: of material creation. And Facino's terms, one might even define
Speaker 2: civilization itself as a man's making an architect. In Facino's terms,
Speaker 2: one might even define civilization itself as man making an
Speaker 2: architecture out of chaos. The very numbers that measure the sizes, distance,
Speaker 2: and compositions of the sphere, says fort You know come
Speaker 2: partly from history and partly from architecture. And a soul
Speaker 2: surely cannot judge how to express absolute proportions, either in
Speaker 2: the air with music or in a body by its
Speaker 2: material and nature, unless it possesses the causes, et cetera,
Speaker 2: et cetera. So right here, so our soul consists of
Speaker 2: all proportions like the Anima Mundi. Our minds and their
Speaker 2: natural strength are not only to judge mathematical proportions, but
Speaker 2: to contrive and create them. Bro, this book goes so
Speaker 2: hard on architecture it's crazy. And this is not he
Speaker 2: wrote like ten bucks, bro, and it's all about the
Speaker 2: architecture and how it resonates. And there's you know, everyone
Speaker 2: talks about the cathedrals and how they look, you know
Speaker 2: who built them, the Tartarians, and what they were used
Speaker 2: for and all this other stuff. It's like, well, there
Speaker 2: are actual philosophies that these cathedrals follow, not just whatever
Speaker 2: people have made up of bar Tartaria and you know
Speaker 2: them not pooping because they didn't have bathrooms. No, no, no,
Speaker 2: there's actual like philosophy behind architecture and magic. Like this
Speaker 2: is a real thing and this guy writes about it.
Speaker 2: But it's the craziest thing. It's the craziest thing.
Speaker 1: His book again is Pythagorean Palaces, Magic and Architecture in
Speaker 1: the Italian Renaissance.
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, dude, I've read it like three times. It
Speaker 2: goes hard every single time.
Speaker 1: Now, just jumping back to that comparison you made to
Speaker 1: Grand Theft Auto and how that might affect the architecture
Speaker 1: might affect you know, virtual architecture affecting reality. It's like
Speaker 1: a mirror, but it's a degeneration because obviously you and
Speaker 1: I both know most of the audience probably knows what
Speaker 1: type of gameplay Grand Theft Auto consists of. Yes, but
Speaker 1: you know, Miami seems like a place that's already, as
Speaker 1: you put it, chaotic, strange too. I don't know if
Speaker 1: any stories have ever come out of Miami like this before,
Speaker 1: but you know, you did a whole episode on multiple
Speaker 1: episodes on the Miami Mall event, which I don't know
Speaker 1: how recent this is, but it came up on an
Speaker 1: episode of Doom Scrolling I think, where Sam plays the
Speaker 1: random reels and TikTok clips. Yeah, it was an interview
Speaker 1: with one of the officers who reported on scene at
Speaker 1: the event that night. You know, the media largely covered
Speaker 1: it up as like some kind of teenage, you know,
Speaker 1: altercation that involved fireworks. But this officer, I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know how true this thing is, but it basically
Speaker 1: the real has an officer quoted to saying something like
Speaker 1: he had chills, he saw a weird fog on the
Speaker 1: inside of the glass, he saw some kind of shadow
Speaker 1: being or something that you know, basically took negative space.
Speaker 1: It was like almost like empty space embodied in a form.
Speaker 1: This really chilling description of what he witnessed. And then,
Speaker 1: according to him, his partner you know, was affected somehow
Speaker 1: fatally in this event. And when he reported to work
Speaker 1: after this event, they basically told him that that guy
Speaker 1: had transferred five months earlier, that was with him at
Speaker 1: the Miami Mall incident. So, yeah, there's some really weird stuff.
Speaker 1: And of course, you know clickbait. You can. You and
Speaker 1: I both know you can make money off of a
Speaker 1: really good Instagram reel or TikTok. So I wouldn't put
Speaker 1: it past somebody to take a story that was just fireworks.
Speaker 2: No, dude, no, because what happens is so when I
Speaker 2: first read about this and heard about this story, it
Speaker 2: has some credence because the issue is that all the literature,
Speaker 2: right for example, one of the ones that I always
Speaker 2: talk about, the Typhony and Oto, they believe that Miami
Speaker 2: is a quote unquote power zone. And the reason that
Speaker 2: they call it a power zone is because you can,
Speaker 2: I mean, Kenneth Grant talks, not Kenneth Grant Peter Lavendez
Speaker 2: talked about this where the man Groves is the perfect
Speaker 2: place to summon the great old ones. Right. The Florida
Speaker 2: Everglades is a place because in the Everglades the limestone
Speaker 2: has material in it, organic material in it, right of
Speaker 2: dead things. So you can use that in your cult
Speaker 2: rituals to summon these entities. And they looked at Miami
Speaker 2: as a power zone early close to where this Bay
Speaker 2: Mall happened, right in that area, okay, And they call
Speaker 2: it a power zone because the veil is thinner there.
Speaker 2: And there was a set of rituals that they did
Speaker 2: back in the nineties, these two guys from the Typhony
Speaker 2: and Oto was him and his wife. I believe it's
Speaker 2: been a while since I read the book, but apparently
Speaker 2: they did a ritual to induce an alien abduction and
Speaker 2: these entities on either side when they so essentially the
Speaker 2: way they did it. If you want, if you really
Speaker 2: want to hear, if you really want to know how
Speaker 2: they did it, the dude was tied up like a mummy,
Speaker 2: and then he had the head of his penis out
Speaker 2: of the wraps, and then his wife would just put
Speaker 2: like a vibrator on the tip of his penis and
Speaker 2: he would uh, she was edging him essentially, and he
Speaker 2: was able to enter an altered state of consciousness, and
Speaker 2: he was able to induce an alien abduction. Now, apparently,
Speaker 2: from what I can read, is that these entities took
Speaker 2: him I guess, to the back rooms or something, and
Speaker 2: they ran a train on him, right, and they ran
Speaker 2: to train on him, and then he came back and
Speaker 2: he was impregnated.
Speaker 1: Is this Disclosure Day by Steven Spielberg is.
Speaker 2: A way better a way better version? Bro?
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: That not the kind of disclosure you want, the kind
Speaker 2: of disclosure you need. Right, So he wasn't pregnated with
Speaker 2: this numerical virus, okay. And apparently there is some sort
Speaker 2: of code that Crowley had put into his book of
Speaker 2: the Law. I think it was. It's a book by
Speaker 2: Peter Leavenda. You can check it out, not to find
Speaker 2: which one it is. Let's see if this page.
Speaker 1: I never realized that the temp Typhony and Oto their
Speaker 1: acronym is Toto. I mean that puts a whole new
Speaker 1: meeting to the land down under.
Speaker 2: Well. Toto I believe was also another uh a brand
Speaker 2: of toilet too. So so yeah, Toto is like one
Speaker 2: of the main brands of toilets that that have.
Speaker 1: You been researching with Donut for his Illuminati Toilets series.
Speaker 2: No, I'm a contractor and I have to buy toilets
Speaker 2: to do people's houses.
Speaker 1: Well, you better talk to Donut. Make sure you're not
Speaker 1: putting Illuminati toilets in people's houses, otherwise you'll be uh oh,
Speaker 1: Illuminati confirm ILLUMINAI come on, confirms.
Speaker 2: There you go. So, yeah, the total that's interesting. That's
Speaker 2: a good connection. Let me find the book, so Peter,
Speaker 2: so people can check this out.
Speaker 1: That's why that band has so many hits.
Speaker 2: Here we Go, So it was a book by him,
Speaker 2: not the Dark Lord, not the Unholy Old Elements. I
Speaker 2: have to find it. I'll find it for you know,
Speaker 2: and I'll tell you which book it is. It's it's
Speaker 2: one of these anyways, the Here we Go. This one
Speaker 2: The Rights of the Mummy, The cur Loss Cell and
Speaker 2: the Secret Key to liber Al so by Jeffrey d.
Speaker 2: Evans and Peter Levenda. So this is the book that
Speaker 2: has what I'm talking about, Okay, And he gets into
Speaker 2: very deep some stuff with the numerical code that supposed
Speaker 2: to be Crowley put in in liber Al and all
Speaker 2: this stuff, which again no one has ever come out
Speaker 2: and said that it is a thing, but Peter Levin
Speaker 2: has talked about it, so I mean take that for
Speaker 2: whatever it is. So, yes, he induces this sort of abduction,
Speaker 2: and right the typhony oto is all about the the
Speaker 2: Cuthulhu mythos and all these crazy entities right from other
Speaker 2: dimensions that quite literally drive you insane by looking at them.
Speaker 2: And what's interesting about Miami is that I did an
Speaker 2: episode where Miami had they had a right here, so
Speaker 2: the Miami blah blah blah. No, that's not us to
Speaker 2: Miami heat. Anyways, there was the Devil's Academy. I don't
Speaker 2: know if you've ever heard about that.
Speaker 1: No, oh, yeah, we may have talked about this on
Speaker 1: the show. I don't know this, No, this is different.
Speaker 1: There's a legend from like Transylvania of the first like
Speaker 1: college was based on a legend of No.
Speaker 2: So, so apparently there was this private school right in
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy nine, and there was a teacher at that
Speaker 2: school that was hypnotizing the students and one day, supposedly
Speaker 2: this girl got possessed by a demon and went on
Speaker 2: a rampage, right, and there's a whole thing about this.
Speaker 2: You can look and there's a whole documentary on it.
Speaker 2: But what's interesting is that, right, Miami has a lot
Speaker 2: of darkmatic voodoo Santaria. Right, there's a lot of practitioners there,
Speaker 2: even to the point where there was a lion stolen
Speaker 2: from a zoo at one point where they did in
Speaker 2: a cult ritual whether they sacrifice some lion. I have
Speaker 2: to find the article here. So lion Miami sacrificed. Yeah, dude,
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, Miami's a crazy, crazy place. And so
Speaker 2: a mountain sorry, yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: Believed showing a African lion. What the description says, a
Speaker 1: mountain lion? Come on, yeah, So anyways, it was a
Speaker 1: mountain lion.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So this is from nineteen eighty eight, mind you. Okay,
Speaker 2: so this is from Miami. A mountain lion, possibly intended
Speaker 2: as a religious sacrifice in the Cuban based religious cult Santadia,
Speaker 2: has been rescued from a cage in a Miami junkyard
Speaker 2: a state official set. This is from nineteen eighty eight. Okay,
Speaker 2: So they.
Speaker 1: Saved the mountain lion before ritually killed.
Speaker 2: And mind you, in the movie Devil's Advocate. I don't
Speaker 2: know if you've ever seen that movie, but Devil's Advocate the
Speaker 2: scene where the guy's doing the voodoo priest goes to
Speaker 2: court because he's sacrificing animals. So apparently that's based off
Speaker 2: of a real case in Miami because the voodoo priests
Speaker 2: were like, hey, or the Santeto's right, that's a whole
Speaker 2: different thing. They're like, hey, if the Jews can do
Speaker 2: their religious sacrifices, you know where they take the chickens
Speaker 2: and they have them, they transfer their sins over from
Speaker 2: all the year, and then they kill them in the streets.
Speaker 2: If the Jews can do that and practice religious freedom,
Speaker 2: then we can do sacrifices and practice religious freedom. So
Speaker 2: that's based off of a real court case in Miami.
Speaker 1: Okay, I was listening to something recently that referenced it.
Speaker 1: Maybe it was Kurt's showed me The Mystery Boys, but yeah,
Speaker 1: that's or maybe it was doctor Narcolongo on Timfoil Hat. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was probably Longo because he did talk about that.
Speaker 1: So right here, So the landmark case regarding a Santaia
Speaker 1: priests and religious freedom is the Church of Lukumi baboulu A, Inc.
Speaker 1: Versus the City of Hialia, which is Miami. In nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety three, the US Supreme Court ruled unanimously in favor
Speaker 1: of the Santaier Church, establishing that local governments cannot pass
Speaker 1: law specifically targeting or prohibiting religious rituals. So, in nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty seven, the Santai religion announced plants to open a
Speaker 1: house of worship in the city of Hialeah, and they
Speaker 1: had passed in response to city council passed several ordinances
Speaker 1: effectively banning the ritual sacrifice or slaughter of animals.
Speaker 2: And that's how that's how it started. And so they
Speaker 2: were like, hey, if the Jews can do it, why
Speaker 2: can't we? And again, I mean freedom of religion, not
Speaker 2: that I'm okay with it, but.
Speaker 1: You know, as that is that you like? Is that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: It says landmark case, that must be a precedent. How
Speaker 1: does that How do they reconcile that with like laws
Speaker 1: to protect animals, Because there's laws that say you can't
Speaker 1: kill animals, I mean certain animals they're hunting them as regulated,
Speaker 1: like mountain lions are protected in certain states. Right, So
Speaker 1: I would imagine like yeah, chicken probably falls under the
Speaker 1: realm of livestock, so it's not necessarily protected the way
Speaker 1: a mountain lion would be. But like, how liberal is
Speaker 1: this rule?
Speaker 2: Ay?
Speaker 1: Are they just allowed to just therefore kill any animal?
Speaker 1: Because I mean some would say that human beings are
Speaker 1: animals under.
Speaker 2: That check it out. Was a case in which the
Speaker 2: Supreme Court held that the ordnance is passing hw you,
Speaker 2: they're forbidding the unnecessary killing of an animal in a
Speaker 2: public or private ritual ceremony not for primary purpose of
Speaker 2: food was unconstitutional. So they held that it was unconstitutional.
Speaker 2: Know the the US Supreme Court and then some of
Speaker 2: the background. Let's see here the Roman Catholic so adherents
Speaker 2: can fulfill their destiny through the aid of beings known
Speaker 2: as arisha's who subsist off blood from animal sacrifices. Animals,
Speaker 2: usually chickens killed during ritual slaughter, are then cooked and
Speaker 2: eaten by the What are.
Speaker 1: We doing here, folks, are like, we're sitting on the
Speaker 1: helm of the two hundred and fifty at the anniversary
Speaker 1: of this country. I thought ritual slaughter, but we were
Speaker 1: escaping when we came here from Europe.
Speaker 2: US until we specialize in bro.
Speaker 1: It seems like it Wow, well, you know, there's the
Speaker 1: there's the the Jews, and they are pretty persuasive, but
Speaker 1: you know that it's funny when you go back to
Speaker 1: the history of the colonies, they were very suspicious. Let's
Speaker 1: just say. Even though there was you know, this idea
Speaker 1: of religious freedom that was based out of the you know,
Speaker 1: vuying between the Protestants and the Catholics, right so that
Speaker 1: it was seen as a way of getting out of
Speaker 1: that battle that was going on for hundreds of years
Speaker 1: in Europe. I don't think the Founding fathers anticipated, you know,
Speaker 1: freedom of religion to you know, also include this and
Speaker 1: that was partly why I think people were maybe suspicious
Speaker 1: of Jews when they started coming to the colonies. Who knows,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to.
Speaker 2: Look at this dude. So they testified that Higli as
Speaker 2: police chaplain, testified that the church worship demons, and the
Speaker 2: city's attorney testify that this community will not tller about Bahlah.
Speaker 2: In September nineteen eighty seven, the city council unanimously passed
Speaker 2: three new oranges that criminalized sacrifices of animals for any
Speaker 2: type of ritual, regardless of whether or not the flesh
Speaker 2: or blood of the animal is to be consumed. The
Speaker 2: city council exempted kosher slaughterhouses, regular slaughter houses, hunting, fishing,
Speaker 2: pest extermination at the age of straight animals, and feeding
Speaker 2: live rabbits to greyhounds. So all that other stuff is okay,
Speaker 2: but you can't do it for your ritual. Okay, you know,
Speaker 2: even though you eat it after you you sacrifice it,
Speaker 2: which I mean that's not it's not that bad. I mean,
Speaker 2: it doesn't make it better. But they they ate it
Speaker 2: after they cooked. Then they cooked it and eaten by
Speaker 2: the celebrants, so they weren't just killing them for no reason.
Speaker 2: They were still eating them. Okay, they were cooking and
Speaker 2: eating them. So I don't know if that makes it
Speaker 2: any better or not, but yeah, so that was the
Speaker 2: whole thing. And that's based off of the uh in
Speaker 2: the movie Devil's Advocate where you see the the voodoo
Speaker 2: priest that gets the Keanu Reeves character to represent him
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. But another thing in Miami was
Speaker 2: I forget where the article is, but in the seventies
Speaker 2: there was about, I want to say, about six hundred
Speaker 2: possessions a month that they were that the church was
Speaker 2: taken care of. So long story short, Miami has a
Speaker 2: history of being a dark place. It's called the Magic City.
Speaker 2: That's their slogan, the Magic City, and a lot of
Speaker 2: weird things happen there. There's a lot of dark magic
Speaker 2: and voodoo and people who practice it because it's right
Speaker 2: next to the Caribbean, right and what is Miami also
Speaker 2: a part of the Bermuda Triangle? What happens in the
Speaker 2: Mervina Triangle. A lot of weird stuff happens in the
Speaker 2: Moving to Triangle. A lot of places go missing, a
Speaker 2: lot of planes go missing, people go missing. So what
Speaker 2: if again, it serves as this sort of portal in
Speaker 2: my opinion, and that's maybe, you know, back to the
Speaker 2: Miami Bay Mall thing. I think maybe that's what might
Speaker 2: have happened there. Because I was actually talking to Narco
Speaker 2: on the phone about this. I was like, bro, we
Speaker 2: never actually heard what went down, Like we never understood
Speaker 2: what really went down.
Speaker 1: And again like, as far as I know, it's just
Speaker 1: that real and I don't know if that's been there's
Speaker 1: nothing else how real that even is. But then again,
Speaker 1: if you're going to take that story, what a big
Speaker 1: part of that story is that the men in black
Speaker 1: were there right on the scene. So what do we
Speaker 1: expect to hear after they're or they're not much I
Speaker 1: imagine based on everything else I've heard about men in
Speaker 1: black and some people even suggest the men in black
Speaker 1: are entities of some kind, you know. So yeah, who
Speaker 1: knows what the truth is there? It's all so shady.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen that, and like I said, it is
Speaker 2: very weird. I don't know of that. How you're saying
Speaker 2: that's if you're if you're looking for clout, maybe doing
Speaker 2: an interview like that, like, oh, I was you know
Speaker 2: a cop? Maybe maybe the cop part you can confirm, right,
Speaker 2: because if a person's a cop out of city, you
Speaker 2: can probably look them up or something and see other
Speaker 2: actually work there. But anybody else who was there who
Speaker 2: talked about seeing these nine foot entities or something like that. Again,
Speaker 2: you can't one hundred percent because broh, I'm a skeptic
Speaker 2: too when it comes to a lot of this stuff.
Speaker 2: So for me seeing his belief So if I'm not,
Speaker 2: if I can't confirm something, then it's it's all make
Speaker 2: believe at the end of the day. And if you're
Speaker 2: trying to get clicks and stuff like that. What was
Speaker 2: that other one too where they saw these weird aliens
Speaker 2: and they saw it land There was another big story too.
Speaker 2: I forgot where it went into the backyard, you know
Speaker 2: what you wan I'm talking about. No, So it wasn't
Speaker 2: California or something. So the Las Vegas that called the
Speaker 2: Las Vegas Man called nine to one on April thirty
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty three, claiming a glowing object fell from
Speaker 2: the sky and crashing their backyard and they reported seeing
Speaker 2: two eight to ten foot non human entities emerging from
Speaker 2: the site. So, despite police investigating and finding circular imprints
Speaker 2: in the dirt, the case was eventually closed as unfounded.
Speaker 2: The Las Vegas UFO you saw that it was like
Speaker 2: a video and stuff about it?
Speaker 1: No, I mean if I did, I don't remember it
Speaker 1: off the top of my head.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So there's look at this Las Vegas alien so
Speaker 2: and let me read it. Las Vegas alien video shows
Speaker 2: at least two beings using cloaking device and list claims
Speaker 2: so that they supposedly have this video where it shows
Speaker 2: them cloaking. It's like, bro, you know, it's like, look
Speaker 2: at this glory part here that's that's the alien. That's
Speaker 2: it right there. Yeah, like that's the shadow of somebody.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: What comes to mind is the BET's mystery sphere. How
Speaker 1: far away is that from Miami? It's that happened in
Speaker 1: Fort George Island.
Speaker 2: Like seven hours okay, so not near it. It's in
Speaker 2: like Jacksonville area. Yeah, so from Jacksonville to Miami is
Speaker 2: about five hours and four minutes.
Speaker 1: That's close. But either way, you know, Florida is a
Speaker 1: weird place. So that was in Las Vegas. Are there
Speaker 1: any UFO of any kind encounters?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah in Florida.
Speaker 1: Well, I imagine Florida, but as we just illustrated, Florda's
Speaker 1: a big place. So but I'm curious if there'sn't ever
Speaker 1: been any in Miami before this small situation.
Speaker 2: Oh well, I don't know about Miami, but there was
Speaker 2: the is it this one here? No, So there was
Speaker 2: a school that saw, like the whole class saw a UFO.
Speaker 2: Let me find it here? And I think Florida is
Speaker 2: like the numbers two are the golf breeze incident hit
Speaker 2: this one here? So in nineteen eighty seven and nineteen
Speaker 2: eighty eight, But that's not anywhere near Miami. So the
Speaker 2: golf breathe in the breathe breeze incident, where the hell's
Speaker 2: golf breeze? Florida's I buy the Panhandle? We check? Oh
Speaker 2: yeah yeah, by the way, So the the trick here
Speaker 2: in Florida is that if you've, if you if somebody
Speaker 2: gives you a city in Florida and you've and it
Speaker 2: sounds super weird, you go, oh, that's like North Florida
Speaker 2: like that. So after Gainesville, North Florida, we don't consider
Speaker 2: it Florida. It's just like a place, okay, a place
Speaker 2: before Georgia. Okay. So even though I went to Saint
Speaker 2: Augustine recently, bro and my my wife didn't know that
Speaker 2: it's the oldest city in the US. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, We're gonna go to the oldest
Speaker 2: city in the US. She's like what. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: the oldest city in the US. Like, it's really all
Speaker 2: a lot, a lot of stuff has popped off here.
Speaker 2: And we went to the Henry Henry's Henry Flagler's the
Speaker 2: college now but what was his his hotel once upon
Speaker 2: a time. And we took a tour and we saw
Speaker 2: again we saw this beautiful architecture, and it was just
Speaker 2: it was really awesome because I'd always seen it in
Speaker 2: pictures and videos, but I've never been there in real life,
Speaker 2: and I had finally seen it in person. So yeah,
Speaker 2: Golf Breeze is way up here by the Panhandle, So
Speaker 2: whenever you hear a name in Florida, you're like, where
Speaker 2: the hell is that? Oh, it's probably somewhere up there
Speaker 2: we don't care about. So it was. The Golf Breeze
Speaker 2: UFO incident was a series of claim UFO sightings in
Speaker 2: Golf Breeze, Florida during late nineteen eighty seven and early
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty eight that began with a claim by local
Speaker 2: contractor Ed Walters of having taken photos of the UFO
Speaker 2: that were then published and then I defunct a Golf
Speaker 2: Breeze Sentinel. I think this is one of the the
Speaker 2: famous pictures that people always see. Let me see if
Speaker 2: I can find it. There was another one, bro that
Speaker 2: I saw, so this picture right here, which I want
Speaker 2: to say, they said it was fake after, But there
Speaker 2: was also there was another one that I'm thinking about.
Speaker 2: It was a class of kids. I can't think about
Speaker 2: it right now, but a class of kids saw one.
Speaker 2: I'll have to find it. Bro.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I found something about one happening on December twenty third,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't mention a year people seeing something flying
Speaker 1: off the coast near Fort Lauderdale. But yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: you pointed out the proximity to the Bermuda Triangle. I
Speaker 1: think that's enough weirdness in that area. Whether it's happening
Speaker 1: directly over Miami, it's still a significant.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in the general vicinity, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the geography, the psychogeography, if you will, the OTO
Speaker 1: picked up on it. I wonder what other cities in America.
Speaker 1: I mean Austin. I remember when we had Emily Moyer
Speaker 1: on the show. She told us a lot about how
Speaker 1: Austin was identified as another one of these places where
Speaker 1: the OTO set up shop. And uh, you know, now
Speaker 1: we see all this podcast comedy stuff happening out of Austin.
Speaker 1: Always rock Fin in Austin too.
Speaker 2: I believe one of the one of the buildings that
Speaker 2: she would talk to me about was the rock Fin
Speaker 2: building and it was like a weird looking building that
Speaker 2: that they were in.
Speaker 1: And rock Fin, as far as I know, they're not
Speaker 1: doing too good as a website.
Speaker 2: It's probably dead, bro. I mean, what do you expect
Speaker 2: the YouTube will always be king?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't uploaded anything to rock Fin in a while.
Speaker 1: I thought for a second when you said rock I
Speaker 1: think you're gonna say rock Star. I don't like as
Speaker 1: you're talking about grand theft auto. But yeah, I wonder
Speaker 1: where Rockstar headquarters.
Speaker 2: Is, which is interesting because one of the things that
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be talking about with Narco on Thursday is
Speaker 2: that where the IBM computer was born in Florida, one
Speaker 2: of the headquarters. The building just got bought out by
Speaker 2: this super billionaire, Stephen Rossu, the owner of the Miami Dolphins,
Speaker 2: and apparently he's bought out like half the city and
Speaker 2: they're pumping a whole bunch of money into it. But
Speaker 2: I don't know they're going to turn into what they
Speaker 2: call a micro city, bro. So again we're going back
Speaker 2: to the concept of and then look at this building.
Speaker 2: It's the craziest looking building. They call it the Fort
Speaker 2: or the Rock or something like that, but look at
Speaker 2: this building. It's super And then we've talked about this
Speaker 2: being like some sort of keyhole. And then you have IBM,
Speaker 2: which is related to howl and Stanley Kubrick's movies, because
Speaker 2: it's it's a letter shifted over so I's h A
Speaker 2: is the B and then L is the M. So
Speaker 2: it's so Kubrick shifted it over right and has hell.
Speaker 2: And we know what the computer does in the movie, right,
Speaker 2: I mean it wants to It goes on a sort
Speaker 2: of rampage. And this building here is used to be
Speaker 2: the IBM headquarters where some of the earliest IBM computers
Speaker 2: were born, and now they're going to turn it into
Speaker 2: a little micro city. Apparently it's one point seven million
Speaker 2: square feet or something crazy like that. So check this
Speaker 2: place out. Looks like an E there like that.
Speaker 1: Hold on one second, So.
Speaker 2: Are they going to be turning into a micro city
Speaker 2: which sounds a lot like a fifteen minute city to me.
Speaker 2: Mega developer Stephen Ross's firm, Related Ross, which I was
Speaker 2: talking an ARCO about, was like, what does the r
Speaker 2: R stand for? Or you have rolls Royce r R.
Speaker 2: I wonder if it has some sort of occult significance.
Speaker 2: So Related Ross is nearing a deal to acquire the
Speaker 2: former one point seven million square foot IBM campus in
Speaker 2: Boca Raton, Florida, currently known as the Boca Ratone Innovation Campus,
Speaker 2: brick one hundred and twenty three acre site is the
Speaker 2: largest single office facility in the state. And yeah, they're
Speaker 2: gonna make it a walkable micro city. So I'm sure
Speaker 2: nothing good can come from that. I think they want
Speaker 2: to put us in these fifteen minute cities to limit
Speaker 2: everything for everybody. Right in Boca Ratone, the mouth of
Speaker 2: the rat These.
Speaker 1: Are the people creating, you know, the technology that most
Speaker 1: people are using that then makes its way into societal consciousness.
Speaker 1: The next thing, you know, people are saying, oh, well,
Speaker 1: what's so bad about living in a fifteen minute microcity.
Speaker 1: You know, here's an example of how great our lives are.
Speaker 1: You know, blah blah blah. But I don't truthfully, I
Speaker 1: don't think that can last very long.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: No, I know, guys like you and me, we need
Speaker 1: to be near nature. We need to be able to
Speaker 1: go out into the woods, into the bayous, into the swamps.
Speaker 2: You know, here's a little model of it. Here's a
Speaker 2: little model.
Speaker 1: Themunculus, the homunculous.
Speaker 2: It's born in the mine, then transferred over and manifested
Speaker 2: on the paper, and from the paper to the little model,
Speaker 2: and the little model to the big the big thing.
Speaker 2: So one point seven million square foot. That's wildly big, bro.
Speaker 2: And so that was recent, that was last this month
Speaker 2: that they an Now what's that? And me and Arco
Speaker 2: have been talking about this place for for a minute now.
Speaker 2: And apparently the guy that designed this, the architect was
Speaker 2: he designed some call me look it up here brick
Speaker 2: Miami building architect boc over too. He designed this one
Speaker 2: chair we find him. So the Boca Raton Campus brick,
Speaker 2: formerly formerly the International IBEM Facility, was designed in the
Speaker 2: late nineteen sixties by master architect Marcel Brewer and Robert F. Gadgee.
Speaker 2: So again using brutalist which is very ugly architect architecture.
Speaker 2: Let's look this guy up. So yeah, he designed the
Speaker 2: Wasatly chair and the Sessca chair. So he designed this
Speaker 2: and he made this design and the New York Times
Speaker 2: called it one of the some of the most important
Speaker 2: chairs of the twentieth century.
Speaker 1: About the Boho Yeah, I mean that's the whole idea
Speaker 1: that you know, they needed to completely remove ornamentation from
Speaker 1: furniture architecture in order to wipe the slate clean and
Speaker 1: make room for this new world dominance. I mean that
Speaker 1: was how globalism was going to be implemented, was by
Speaker 1: stripping all of the symbolism in ornamentation, because if you
Speaker 1: look at furniture or architecture previous to this time, you
Speaker 1: don't see you know, all these flat plane surfaces you see,
Speaker 1: you know, all sorts of ornamentation from you know, geometry,
Speaker 1: simple geometry to natural patterns, and you know, all sorts
Speaker 1: of let's call it abstract stuff in the Art Deco period,
Speaker 1: and then it all just kind of dies out with this,
Speaker 1: Oh how modernism crap that looks so far into the
Speaker 1: future that they forget the past roots of what it
Speaker 1: comes from. I mean, so it's part of occultism, is
Speaker 1: that was just pointing out right, So the comes to
Speaker 1: use mind control, which is occultism, you know, wiping the
Speaker 1: slate clean so you can then control the you know,
Speaker 1: perceiver of what you're creating.
Speaker 2: So compared to that chair that you showed us a
Speaker 2: few weeks back or a couple months ago, whatever it was,
Speaker 2: uh to this, I mean, which chair would you rather have?
Speaker 2: Which chair Western men, the dragon satyr chair that Mark had,
Speaker 2: or this stupid thing?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you know, each chair has a purpose, right,
Speaker 1: like if I was in an office, maybe I would
Speaker 1: prefer a little like metal chair. I don't think it
Speaker 1: would be as comfortable as a cushioned chair with upholstered chair.
Speaker 2: But you know whoa so disappearing Yo. So this guy
Speaker 2: took this picture disappearing figure in a chair by Marcel Brewer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean that I think that was one
Speaker 1: of those delay type of photographs where you'd need to
Speaker 1: be sitting in front of the camera for a significant
Speaker 1: amount of time for the photo to complete. So maybe
Speaker 1: he just sat there half the time and it created
Speaker 1: that ghostly effect.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But point being that this dude was into some
Speaker 2: freaky geeky stuff and apparently it features an un an
Speaker 2: NFI figure sitting in one of the groundbreaking often wearing
Speaker 2: a mask to sign by fellow Baja's artists. So all right,
Speaker 2: damn dude, this is like, this gives me, This is
Speaker 2: giving me brohemian Bohemian grove vibes, like just me and
Speaker 2: the bros chilling, you know, just hanging out boch so
Speaker 2: cauldron of perversions. And so apparently she gets into that
Speaker 2: where the bows were never straightforward b howlers were engaged
Speaker 2: with everything that escaped rationality, sexuality, violence, esoteric philosophy, is occultism, disease,
Speaker 2: the psyche, pharmacology, extraterrestrial life, artificial intelligence, chance of the print.
Speaker 2: What dude? This what? All right? Now we're down a
Speaker 2: rabbit hole. Dude, Yo, we're down a rabbit.
Speaker 1: That's someulous crazy nap.
Speaker 2: All right, So we're gonna have to do some digging
Speaker 2: into old boy here. That again design the place where
Speaker 2: the first personal computer was born, and we know that
Speaker 2: phones and everything else came from that, so boho, hey, bro,
Speaker 2: well there's smoke, there's fire, and all these guys that
Speaker 2: were super weird.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean need to be kind of weird
Speaker 1: to be creative. I guess.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think depraved might be the better word. Looking at
Speaker 1: those illustrations we just saw, and yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know, it just seems very supremacist to be like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, we're going to be the generation that removes everything,
Speaker 1: all convention and tradition and start completely new, completely blank.
Speaker 1: And I mean, look at how it lasted thirty forty
Speaker 1: fifty years later, people are all coming around to be like, ugh,
Speaker 1: isn't this modern brutalist stuff so boring? I mean, you
Speaker 1: look at what's trending now, and it's soulless. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: but now people want to see things designed with ornamentation
Speaker 1: and style all and all this stuff. So I don't know,
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe it's coming back around, but it just
Speaker 1: seems like the modern is soulless and satanic even you know,
Speaker 1: the modernist type of architecture, brutalism, bow how all this
Speaker 1: stuff kind of fits into this modernism. And now I
Speaker 1: think postmodernism, you know, is even worse in some ways.
Speaker 1: But I don't I don't know enough about the two
Speaker 1: terms to be expressing, you know, a factual, actual statement there.
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of going off of a feeling here.
Speaker 1: But yeah, no surprise that IBM created a computer in
Speaker 1: a place that looks like a computer box, you know,
Speaker 1: like yeah, sirperboard, computer box, brick. You know, it's all
Speaker 1: kind of similar type of thinking that would design these
Speaker 1: kind of things.
Speaker 2: You know. So this dude was into some weird stuff.
Speaker 2: It seems like I'm gonna have to do some digging
Speaker 2: on him.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Marcel Brewer b r e u e er
Speaker 1: for our audio listeners.
Speaker 2: They talk about too, like brutalism, where they say, you
Speaker 2: know about the ninety degrees that trap, yeah.
Speaker 1: Shadows or energies and stuff like that, when it's done
Speaker 1: in a way that's like what you're showing me here
Speaker 1: at nine to forty five Madison Avenue. That's not the
Speaker 1: worst example of brutalism I've ever seen. It interesting, you know,
Speaker 1: that's an interesting thing to look at. But again, like
Speaker 1: you compare that to a building designed in an earlier decade,
Speaker 1: and there was so much more information, you know, like
Speaker 1: that is very much a blank slate compared to something
Speaker 1: like like the very famous cathedral in Spain. Do you
Speaker 1: know which one I'm talking about? Notre Dame, No, it's
Speaker 1: in Spain. If you look up Spanish cathedral, it might
Speaker 1: come up as like one of the first ones because
Speaker 1: when that burned down. This one is really interesting. And
Speaker 1: I was recently watching something where the guy who designed
Speaker 1: this basically designed it upside down, and that's how he
Speaker 1: was able to solve a lot of the problems some
Speaker 1: architects were having with creating really tall structures that you know,
Speaker 1: could be you know, tall and long and elegant, yet
Speaker 1: also stable. So what he did was he use a
Speaker 1: series of chains hanging upside down from the ceiling and
Speaker 1: he created the model for this building using basically, you know,
Speaker 1: the the angles and the slopes that the chains took,
Speaker 1: the form they took. Well, you know, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: dance around using the word gravity because you and I
Speaker 1: both know there's a lot of flaws with that term.
Speaker 1: But I don't judge well either way gravity you know,
Speaker 1: for the lack of a better way of thinking. But
Speaker 1: isn't that so interesting from everything we hear about the
Speaker 1: occult that like somebody would design a building by flipping
Speaker 1: it upside down, you know, to solve these issues of
Speaker 1: reaching up into the heavens. Right, yeah, go down into
Speaker 1: the underground to reach up into the heavens is kind
Speaker 1: of what comes to mind for me.
Speaker 2: And you know, one of the things that you got
Speaker 2: to be so this is you know, when you compare
Speaker 2: that to this, right, you compare to this. Like I said,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of pretty cool looking buildings, but you
Speaker 2: go from this to something such so beautiful as this building.
Speaker 2: And one of the things that people don't think about
Speaker 2: because a lot of people look at these pictures and they.
Speaker 1: Go, look, it's got to wide it out.
Speaker 2: Background tar Terry, we found this we found this and
Speaker 2: we took it up. It took you know, it took
Speaker 2: him hundreds of years to finish this thing, right, And
Speaker 2: I mean even until this day, they're still building it.
Speaker 2: And so it's not like they built it.
Speaker 1: Because he died in the process. Yes, he did design it,
Speaker 1: and I believed the plans for it were destroyed and
Speaker 1: somebody had to come in, yes eater and put piece
Speaker 1: it back together. We might have talked about this before.
Speaker 2: Maybe we've talked about it's.
Speaker 1: The world's tallest church. In that again, you know he
Speaker 1: did he did that by going upside down.
Speaker 2: So is a Catholic church in a construction in Barcelona
Speaker 2: designed by catalang architect Antonio Gotti, and Gotti uh Is
Speaker 2: talked to about in that book The Thagre and Palaces.
Speaker 2: It is the tallest church in the world. Bro oh
Speaker 2: my goodness. I would love to go see this person.
Speaker 2: So how tall?
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it on the right sidebar there.
Speaker 2: It should right? Yeah, so it is? Why is it
Speaker 2: five hundred and sixty six feet?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think they were saying.
Speaker 2: How yep, five sixty.
Speaker 1: How many spires there are?
Speaker 2: H So five hundred and sixty six feet that's pretty tall.
Speaker 2: Look at that, dude. Yikes. Yeah, apparently, I think this
Speaker 2: is the one where they found the models in the basement.
Speaker 1: Right, they found the models that to rebuilt somewhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, parts of the unfinished but silk and God, these
Speaker 2: models and workshop are destroyed in the war. The present
Speaker 2: design is based on reconstructive versions of the planes that
Speaker 2: were burned in a fire, as well as on modern adaptations.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they do use computers basically to continue it.
Speaker 2: Well, dude, yeah, can you imagine? Man Like, Yeah, there
Speaker 2: was a video recently was on fire. I think that's
Speaker 2: what h this is here.
Speaker 1: But well, and we think about now, you know, computer
Speaker 1: augmentation is this big, like scary thing, and in some
Speaker 1: ways it's helping us do incredible things that we could
Speaker 1: have only achieved with these great genius minds. I mean,
Speaker 1: do people like that still exist in a state with
Speaker 1: this current state of our education system? I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't can't speak for other countries, but you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know that we have Antonio Gaudi's coming out of
Speaker 1: at least you know, modern Europe in the United States
Speaker 1: in this day and age, just because of the way
Speaker 1: education so much, you know, it's like we now we
Speaker 1: need computers to kind of pick up the slack that
Speaker 1: this guy achieved, like using the old school methods. Right,
Speaker 1: So I don't again we mocked the Tartaria thing, but
Speaker 1: there is a real, you know element to this lost
Speaker 1: old world story, and Tartaria might be a way of
Speaker 1: turning people in the wrong direction, as they always do
Speaker 1: when it comes to serious, you know, disclosure, they spielberg
Speaker 1: it up and throw a bunch of you know, smoke
Speaker 1: on the fire. But yeah, it's it's something that I
Speaker 1: think when it comes to the modern day, you know,
Speaker 1: will AI be able to create something like this? I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 2: No, No, I don't think.
Speaker 1: Use AI in conjunction with the human mind. Maybe we
Speaker 1: can achieve something like this where AI can do some
Speaker 1: of the you know, the dirty work that just speeds
Speaker 1: things up. But I don't even that.
Speaker 2: I wonder now, the AI is not gonna get on
Speaker 2: the roof like some sweaty Mexicans and put shingles on. Okay, bro,
Speaker 2: they're not gonna build it. That's I'll pay money to
Speaker 2: see that. Okay. You know, when they tell me all
Speaker 2: your AI is coming for your job, I'd like to
Speaker 2: see it. Misquote a job twenty times okay, and give
Speaker 2: it to the client and deal with her ass calling
Speaker 2: you fifty times a day. So yeah, I mean I've
Speaker 2: seen the technology where they're talking about, like have you
Speaker 2: seen the three D printed houses?
Speaker 1: I think I've heard of it. No, I haven't seen it.
Speaker 2: So essentially it's what you what you can imagine might
Speaker 2: so three D three D printed houses interests pretty big? Then, yeah, dude,
Speaker 2: they put it up on like freaking yes, scaffolding pretty
Speaker 2: much is what it is. And then they put a
Speaker 2: freaking printer head on there and they just layer it up.
Speaker 1: Huh.
Speaker 2: I mean what I want to be in a three
Speaker 2: D printed house while there was a hur a category
Speaker 2: five hurricane going around.
Speaker 1: Well, we know from from talking to Tofer Gardener right
Speaker 1: about the domes and the power of the dome like
Speaker 1: he's from Florida to and uh remember have you had
Speaker 1: toafer on your show as he told you about the
Speaker 1: dome science, how it's like impervious to a tornado or hurricane.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there was there was another guy who was
Speaker 2: also building the uh I forget what they call him
Speaker 2: the name of the structure, but yeah, the round one
Speaker 2: and if you if you look at the dome like
Speaker 2: a dome is a mondola.
Speaker 1: Yeah well, and I mean you could build off of
Speaker 1: that geometry infinitely, you know. But if you can three
Speaker 1: D printed dome out of something like hemp crete, which
Speaker 1: is extremely durable, and you can have affordable housing for
Speaker 1: people all over the world. I mean, we have no
Speaker 1: shortage of space side check forests developed. But oh ship
Speaker 1: the Xana Do have you have We talked about the
Speaker 1: Xana Do cult before.
Speaker 2: No with that. This used to be in flor So.
Speaker 2: This used to be in Kasumi. Bro. They tore this
Speaker 2: place down, uh, quite some years back.
Speaker 1: In the Illuminati card game. It's a it's a place
Speaker 1: in the Illuminati card game. But you know that really yeah,
Speaker 1: look it up. Look up Xana Do Illuminati card game,
Speaker 1: same way it's spelled.
Speaker 2: Whoa, oh dude. And it kind of looks like a
Speaker 2: dome too like that. Yeah. Yeah, So what is the
Speaker 2: card reader?
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it has something to do with the
Speaker 1: the cult that created that structure we just looked at.
Speaker 2: It is a place where does it exist only in
Speaker 2: virtual reality? No one knows, and is the ultimate vacation
Speaker 2: spot where all desires are fulfilled. Well, once one of
Speaker 2: your servants has visited Xanadu, he'll be loyal forever, just
Speaker 2: for the chance to go back.
Speaker 1: What bro the assassins. Remember the story with.
Speaker 2: The ass is that where they go Xanadu. I think it.
Speaker 1: Was a sort of Islamic cult, so they probably had something,
Speaker 1: you know, like the equivalent of Muslim heaven. Wow, there's
Speaker 1: a film too. See now we need to look at
Speaker 1: where this comes from, because it's a it's a from
Speaker 1: a poem about Kubla Khan Uh.
Speaker 2: Huh, the title versus the nightclub in the film, which
Speaker 2: takes place its name from Xanadu, the summer capital of
Speaker 2: Kuba Kan's.
Speaker 1: You want to now, remember when we talked about Tartaria,
Speaker 1: we talked about the Marco Polo journey and how Marco
Speaker 1: Polo went to parts of Asia and then came back
Speaker 1: and told these kind of like tall tales about where
Speaker 1: he went in Asia.
Speaker 2: Right here, Marco Polo visited Jengdu around twelve seventy five,
Speaker 2: described and marble palace with guilt rooms in an expansive park.
Speaker 1: It pronounced Shenga doo shgado.
Speaker 2: There is at this place a very fine marble palace
Speaker 2: rooms of which all guilt and painted with figures around
Speaker 2: this palace as a wall built. He recounted a portable
Speaker 2: cane palace a doing with lacquer dragons and able to
Speaker 2: be dismantled for travel. WHOA. So let's go back to
Speaker 2: the Xanadu here in Florida, where a series experimental home
Speaker 2: is built to showcase the examples of computers and automation
Speaker 2: in the home of the United States. And it's funny
Speaker 2: because there's a piece of one of these houses on
Speaker 2: top of some shop somewhere in Florida. Forgot where.
Speaker 1: Well, you know what's funny, dude, This little town that
Speaker 1: I moved to up here in Connecticut. And I feel
Speaker 1: like this is like the phrase of the episode. Have
Speaker 1: I told you this before? But there's a mountain across
Speaker 1: the way from me called Jones Mountain, named after a
Speaker 1: family who the patriarch, so to speak, was in the
Speaker 1: CIA and his nephew was in a gay relationship and
Speaker 1: they were basically their story was that they were chased
Speaker 1: by a cult and the partner of this son of
Speaker 1: the CIA agent was killed in the woods near one
Speaker 1: of these dome homes that was made out of that
Speaker 1: same polyuythane foam and the Dome Home was sitting in
Speaker 1: the woods for a while up until like ten years
Speaker 1: ago and the town took it down. But yeah, it
Speaker 1: was a Yale guy that built the Dome Home and
Speaker 1: then a Columbia student. The two men who were in
Speaker 1: the woods and one of them was murdered, they never
Speaker 1: found out murdered him, and they actually blamed the guy's
Speaker 1: partner for the murder, but they both you know, he
Speaker 1: claimed that they were both drugged and chased through the
Speaker 1: woods and that's how he died.
Speaker 2: Probably the truth, and nobody believes him, can you That's
Speaker 2: one of my worst fears, bro doing being blamed for
Speaker 2: crime he didn't commit. You know, all the people who
Speaker 2: so we were talking about, I forgot what it was.
Speaker 2: We were talking about doppelgangers or something like that a
Speaker 2: little bit ago, and there's been people who have served
Speaker 2: like twenty years for crimes didn't commit. And so let
Speaker 2: me pull let me pull one up. So check this
Speaker 2: out because I sent it to Narco and the dude's
Speaker 2: name was oh Oh. Because we were talking about like,
Speaker 2: you know, twins that get separated at birth and then
Speaker 2: they re night and they have like the wife with
Speaker 2: the same name and all this other stuff. So check
Speaker 2: this out. So this guy here, uh, Richard A. Jones,
Speaker 2: So check this out. Richard A. Jones wrongfully convicted right here.
Speaker 2: So man wrongfully convicted for doppelganger's crime award at one
Speaker 2: point one minute.
Speaker 1: A man who's spent seventeen years in So he.
Speaker 2: Spent seventeen years in prison, bro, and only got one
Speaker 2: point one million. That's crazy to me. But check out
Speaker 2: the mugshot. Like they look identical, bro, Like, oh my goodness,
Speaker 2: look at that. They look identical. Look at that. There's
Speaker 2: Ricky Richard Richard was Jones and then it's Ricky Amos.
Speaker 2: So they had almost even this like similar name, Ricky
Speaker 2: Amos and Richard Jones. So we were talking about how like,
Speaker 2: you know, twins when they like people that No, no,
Speaker 2: now I know what we're talking. We're talking about like
Speaker 2: facial features and astrological uh connections. You know sometimes like yeah,
Speaker 2: depending on your facial structure is more like you lean
Speaker 2: towards certain preferences and stuff like that. We're talking about
Speaker 2: that on the episode. And yeah, bro, but check this
Speaker 2: guy out. Mane seventeen years and only one point one
Speaker 2: that's crazy to me. At least a million dollars a
Speaker 2: year would be good for me. I wouldn't settle for
Speaker 2: one point one Wow in two thousand, it might have
Speaker 2: been a lot, right, Like.
Speaker 1: But like, truthfully, the guy who committed the crime is
Speaker 1: kind of a better looking guy. Could you imagine like
Speaker 1: the wrap for like a better looking doppel ganger?
Speaker 2: View Like, but that'd be the the least of my worries, bro, Like, Yeah,
Speaker 2: the guy that did it actually.
Speaker 1: Is the face on I don't know, he's got he's
Speaker 1: got a handsome profile, but straight on, he looks like
Speaker 1: a criminal. The other guy looks like a nice just
Speaker 1: a nice guy. But they have the same haircut. I
Speaker 1: mean really, if you have that haircut, I would say
Speaker 1: change it because there's probably ninety percent chance that you know,
Speaker 1: someone you're gonna get accused of a crime you didn't do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's like a criminal haircut. Maybe change that haircut, guys,
Speaker 1: I don't Yeah.
Speaker 2: This haircut comes with a ninety nine point nine percent
Speaker 2: chance you're gonna get convicted of a crime you didn't do.
Speaker 1: That's a straight up you're getting pulled over haircut.
Speaker 2: Bro, But look at that, that's like eerily similar. So
Speaker 2: I mean, think about it, dude, there's probably somebody who
Speaker 2: looks just like you.
Speaker 1: Now that we yeah, now that we look at them
Speaker 1: head on, I mean, I'm kind of glad we have
Speaker 1: better cameras because now you'd be able to tell with
Speaker 1: some of these cameras that they have. But I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe when they were younger they looked similar. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that's kind of interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: They say, people of you know, the same race can
Speaker 1: distinguish between faces better. So maybe I'm a little Hispanic
Speaker 1: because I can tell these guys apart better than all.
Speaker 2: White people look the same. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, so you know,
Speaker 2: it's a lot of white people, you know what the
Speaker 2: you know what the the one of the things I
Speaker 2: think about on like a daily basis is whenever you
Speaker 2: go through like a drive through or something, and have
Speaker 2: you ever gone through a drive through and not even
Speaker 2: really looked at the person like in their face, Like
Speaker 2: if something was to happen, would would you be able
Speaker 2: to recall what that person looked like the person that
Speaker 2: took your order and took your you know, took your payment.
Speaker 2: A lot of times I think about that sometimes and
Speaker 2: I'm like, I have no idea what the lady and
Speaker 2: the last one don't even look like. I don't think
Speaker 2: i'd be if I was to be interrogated by that
Speaker 2: police right now, I wouldn't be able to describe her.
Speaker 2: Has that ever happened to you where you're like, you're
Speaker 2: not really paying attention to what's going on in life
Speaker 2: and you're just kind of like rolling on by.
Speaker 1: Sure. I mean I have had situations where I've had
Speaker 1: to describe to police, you know, what a criminal look like,
Speaker 1: who just assaulted me?
Speaker 2: You describe yourself and I described I described the guy,
Speaker 2: and I felt very racist as I was describing him.
Speaker 1: But there's you know, it's funny. It's funny the way
Speaker 1: like your mind, Yeah, in those stressful situations completely dumps
Speaker 1: pertinent information. You know, That's why they traumatize people in
Speaker 1: the police force, in the military and their training so
Speaker 1: that they can you know, remain calm and have sort
Speaker 1: of calculative and that analytical thinking in those stressful moments,
Speaker 1: because you know, you're really not prepared for that. Even myself,
Speaker 1: you know, I've done martial arts early in my life
Speaker 1: up until like my early twenties, and you know, getting
Speaker 1: into a couple altercations here and there, since it's like
Speaker 1: all that training went out the window in some sense,
Speaker 1: you know, it's like you really gotta be on it
Speaker 1: all the time every time to be good in those
Speaker 1: kind of situations in that sense. But I mean, hence
Speaker 1: why they have body cams. I'm sure, Well, I can't fight.
Speaker 1: I got that glockachew on me. Man, I can't glocachu.
Speaker 1: I choose you main bang. I'm not fighting nobody for
Speaker 1: I can't fight. I'd get my ass kicked. Well, it's
Speaker 1: funny you you mentioned the mountain lion thing earlier, because
Speaker 1: I just got my haircut today and the my hairdresser
Speaker 1: kind of made me feel like I should get a
Speaker 1: weapon because she was telling me about and she's lived
Speaker 1: in this area her whole life. She was telling me
Speaker 1: about how there are mountain lions in my area, but
Speaker 1: the state won't admit to it. Right, So we talked
Speaker 1: about this in the past in one of my animal
Speaker 1: News Mythological Mountain. Basically, yeah, ghost populations of mountain lions
Speaker 1: in certain dates where they don't want to be liable
Speaker 1: for mountain lion attacks. Because if you acknowledge, you know
Speaker 1: that mountain lions are in your state. I guess that
Speaker 1: leaves you liable insurance wise to you know, do something
Speaker 1: about it or track them.
Speaker 2: And you're just delusional. Mark, there's no mountain lions. And
Speaker 2: what isn't New England? Is that where you live? New England?
Speaker 2: Is that what they call it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you can write Connecticut if you want to
Speaker 1: be more specific.
Speaker 2: So the state one, So Connecticut? There are see Google
Speaker 2: says no, bro Okay, yeah, there's no established breeding population.
Speaker 1: Do what The last one was a transient from South Dakota.
Speaker 1: He caught a fucking greyhound bus to get to get here.
Speaker 1: He tied in a shelter in twenty eleven. Yeah right, dude,
Speaker 1: Like they know it's crazy, dude, And people have, like
Speaker 1: my hairdresser told me a story of how her grandmother
Speaker 1: had a mountain lion that came and sat by one
Speaker 1: of her sheds in her backyard every night.
Speaker 2: And these dues, these things are nasty. I'm sure you've
Speaker 2: seen the videos of them stalking people. Like this thing
Speaker 2: would be walking next to you, you would have no idea.
Speaker 2: It would just kill you in a second.
Speaker 1: Not only that they are known to use This is
Speaker 1: what my hairdresser told me, today for the barber that
Speaker 1: they are known to use bird noises, like they can
Speaker 1: vocalize the sound bird to trick you into thinking there's
Speaker 1: just a bird in the bushes and you're not actually
Speaker 1: hearing what you're hearing. Yeah, I see, And people have
Speaker 1: been using that bird app, Merlin, and they've been hearing
Speaker 1: mountain lions. But the bird app doesn't identify the bird
Speaker 1: because it's not a bird. Whoa, there's no clue. What's
Speaker 1: being you know, monitored. I told the hairdresser, I'm like,
Speaker 1: they should have a mountain lion setting in the bird
Speaker 1: app just in case, because shit, you're out in the woods,
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, what's this bird you?
Speaker 2: Oh, it's funny. It's telling me it's a mountain line. Honey,
Speaker 2: it's telling me it's chirp, chirp, mountain lion. What does
Speaker 2: that even? What kind of bird is that?
Speaker 1: If it was my app, it's gonna be wear't wear
Speaker 1: red alert.
Speaker 2: It's like you should probably run right now.
Speaker 1: Well, here you go. Look at that Instagram video chirp chirp.
Speaker 2: Okays, take a look at it.
Speaker 1: Oh, maybe they're using see maybe they're just talking to
Speaker 1: their babies. It's not so scary. They're just talking to
Speaker 1: their babies.
Speaker 2: Can you hear that? No? Whoa dude, It sounds like
Speaker 2: a little sounds like a little bird. Hold on, let
Speaker 2: me let me share the audio two with you. So
Speaker 2: share a sound. So check it out.
Speaker 3: Look, Oh, it's a beautiful little bird in the tree.
Speaker 3: Where's the bird?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: What if I heard that? I might think twice? I mean,
Speaker 1: there are catbirds which are named because they said they
Speaker 1: can sound like cats.
Speaker 2: What.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's not a not like yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like a It's like a tiny bird that you'll see
Speaker 1: in your backyard. But yeah, catbirds sound like cats.
Speaker 2: I know. We're doing an animal news segment today.
Speaker 1: Well, hey, you get you get talking to me. Baby's
Speaker 1: some animal news all the way every day. Speaking of
Speaker 1: animal news, I got a bunch of vintage Zoo T shirts,
Speaker 1: Wildlife Federation t shirts, and Jim Morris t shirts that
Speaker 1: I've been collecting. If anybody wants to buy any of
Speaker 1: my vintage T shirts that I've been collecting, They're all
Speaker 1: going to be for sale on my big Cartel store
Speaker 1: and on my what not account, which I just created
Speaker 1: so people can go and follow me on whatnot and
Speaker 1: they'll see me live, and I'm gonna do one of
Speaker 1: these what not sales and sell a bunch of shit.
Speaker 1: But speaking of T shirts, I just found a Twilight
Speaker 1: Zone Tower of Terror T shirt at Goodwill and I
Speaker 1: looked it up and they're selling for like one hundred,
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty dollars. I bought it for eight bucks.
Speaker 1: So if you're out there and you're strapped for cash,
Speaker 1: go to your local Goodwill, be a little savvy, find
Speaker 1: something that you think looks like it might not be
Speaker 1: worth what it's being sold for, and flip that shit on.
Speaker 2: You know which one is it? Ummm, it's a Disney shirt, bro,
Speaker 2: I mean those go you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I grab it because it had the
Speaker 1: Disney tag and everything. It's not any of these, which
Speaker 1: is cool because that's making me think it's probably one
Speaker 1: of the rarer ones based on what I saw with
Speaker 1: my search. But you know, you do the image search. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I was able to just find the exact one
Speaker 1: by taking a picture of it. But yeah, it, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's cool. It looks like one of these. But I
Speaker 1: would say, if you're gonna find it in private beyond eBay,
Speaker 1: not Google, but yeah, that's that's like we talked about
Speaker 1: something I've been up to. We get the Brimfield the
Speaker 1: Antique flea market coming up the second week of July,
Speaker 1: so I'll be there again in Brimfield, Massachusetts, in the
Speaker 1: Shelton Field if anybody wants to come and check it out.
Speaker 1: I think that's the one right there, the vintage with
Speaker 1: the sixty four dollars one to the left. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think that's it. Yeah, that's that's the one I got.
Speaker 1: So anyways, we'll see that one's a double XL probably
Speaker 1: why it's only sixty five bucks. But mine's a large,
Speaker 1: which is that's a cool Litvan shirt. Yeah. I mean
Speaker 1: that's what's fun about this is you know, you find
Speaker 1: something cool, you wear it. Once you resell it, you
Speaker 1: make ten times your money back.
Speaker 2: Yes, if you want to buy a shirt worn by Mark,
Speaker 2: go ahead and hit them up.
Speaker 1: I will not wear the yodor that day, just for you.
Speaker 2: If you if you're into that kind of stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But actually actually also found a Holy Mountain T shirt.
Speaker 1: You ever seen the movie The Holy Mountain.
Speaker 2: I have not, but I've heard about It's very weird
Speaker 2: from what people have told me. That's the Yeah, that's that.
Speaker 2: That was one of those movies where uh yeah, it's
Speaker 2: super a cult and weird.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mexican avant garde, avant garde.
Speaker 2: There you go, dude. Well we were talking about earlier
Speaker 2: with this guy that designed the IBM building.
Speaker 1: So it all back around and you just saw right
Speaker 1: there Tavistock connection because both John Lennon and and George
Speaker 1: Harrison acclaimed that the film was produced.
Speaker 2: What the heck, that's like some MK ultra stuff, bro.
Speaker 2: So John Lennon put up the money for this, No, no,
Speaker 2: so for this one, for this one. El Topo, which
Speaker 2: is a Mexican western film scored by okay by both
Speaker 2: This film coming out, so we gotta check this one
Speaker 2: out because this is probably the one that has the juice.
Speaker 2: So it is uh characterized by its bizarre characters and
Speaker 2: occurrences used of Maimon Updorf performers and the heavy doses
Speaker 2: of Judeo Christian symbolism and Eastern philosophy. The film is
Speaker 2: about Ol Topo, violent black clad gunfighter played by Jeordowski
Speaker 2: in his quest for enlightenment.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: So yeah, we got to watch this film the next
Speaker 1: time we do show.
Speaker 2: We should, we should do a review.
Speaker 1: Well, and that's something that the folks really appreciate about
Speaker 1: you and I. And you know what, I think we'll
Speaker 1: get some one of our friends involved. We do a
Speaker 1: little group show, you know, maybe the Paranoid American or Donut,
Speaker 1: both well known for their media analysis. Yes, but that
Speaker 1: could be a good episode for sure. El Topo bizarre
Speaker 1: looking movie. Bro in the world. I'm excited.
Speaker 2: Let's do that. It's almost it's two hours long though, bro, Well,
Speaker 2: I have to watch it twice then, so one hundred
Speaker 2: and twenty four minutes long.
Speaker 1: Interesting.
Speaker 2: So eho, Now a young monk. So I'm sitping on
Speaker 2: some on a beer right now. It's called the Trapests
Speaker 2: rock Fort and it's actually brewed by monks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard of that in Belgium.
Speaker 2: So it's really strong. It's got seven point five hours.
Speaker 2: I got a little buzz going on right now, but
Speaker 2: that's pretty strong.
Speaker 1: Well, shoot, dude, take care of yourself down there and
Speaker 1: enjoy your Trappist. I've heard of that beer before. Back
Speaker 1: when I worked at Whole Foods, that was a big one.
Speaker 1: People would say, Yeah, all the Belgian beers are the
Speaker 1: best ones.
Speaker 2: German beers are the best.
Speaker 1: Wow, Belgium is German and German are different, but yeah,
Speaker 1: you think German's better than Belgian beer?
Speaker 2: On they passed a periody law the way back when,
Speaker 2: and they make their beer so a certain a certain way,
Speaker 2: because I don't like strong, Like this is really strong, bro.
Speaker 2: For a beer to where you can taste, you can
Speaker 2: taste like the alcohol on a German beer. It's very
Speaker 2: you know, very light, but it's got a good taste
Speaker 2: to it. Ip A, I hate IPA. They taste like piss. Okay,
Speaker 2: So anyone who likes IPA is they're a serial killer
Speaker 2: and they're probably an arc, bro, because I pas are gross,
Speaker 2: and anyone who tries in gaslight you'll be like, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: they're super good. No, get out of here. Bro. If
Speaker 2: you like drinking pisswater, sure I pas for you.
Speaker 1: But okay, I mean there is one that I've had
Speaker 1: that I like, but I'm not going to die on
Speaker 1: the hill. I'm over it. So but there you go.
Speaker 1: Trappis rochefort Wan's beer of choice. Today, we had a
Speaker 1: guest on the show. His last name is.
Speaker 2: Synchronicity, Bro, whoa.
Speaker 1: Illuminati confirmed Boom, there you go.
Speaker 2: The rock Ford conspiracy on the My Family Thinks some
Speaker 2: crazy podcast.
Speaker 1: It's that's what I said. Do that again. Hit one
Speaker 1: more time for the clips.
Speaker 2: We need this one.
Speaker 1: Do what I said, Hit it one more time for
Speaker 1: the clip.
Speaker 2: We need this one.
Speaker 1: The mix.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, next time we get together, we'll talk
Speaker 1: about El Topo.
Speaker 2: I'll hit up Thomas and we'll watch it and then
Speaker 2: we'll do a review. Yeah, or maybe we can do
Speaker 2: goes ah. Now, let's not do a watch along because
Speaker 2: that's not film.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, let's watch it, watch it at your own pace,
Speaker 1: and then watch it again the night before, like a
Speaker 1: quick you know, breeze through, and then we'll talk about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we can maybe even get into the Holy Mountain
Speaker 1: and maybe one of the listeners will buy the Holy
Speaker 1: Mountain shirt, the rare vintage Holy Mountain shirt that I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have for sale on my big Cartel store as
Speaker 1: soon as I figure out a fair price for it.
Speaker 2: WHOA, so dude, look at this? Look at this poster
Speaker 2: for the movie says, Ohtopa, the movie that shocked America
Speaker 2: with sex and violence. Uh oh yeah, wow, see what
Speaker 2: we're getting into.
Speaker 1: This is gonna be a good one.
Speaker 2: All right, let's do it. Oh dude, wait a minute,
Speaker 2: it's in Spanish subtitles.
Speaker 1: All right, alright, subtitles, all right, cool, I'll talk all right. Wait,
Speaker 1: does Thomas speak Spanish? Yeah? I didn't think so. He's
Speaker 1: just in Florida.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just in Florida. He's he's a he's a
Speaker 2: white guy. He's a white dude. All right.
Speaker 1: Well with that, folks, you are all Illuminati confirmed yet
Speaker 1: AGAINTI confirmed. And we'll be back soon to talk about
Speaker 1: what sounds like a pretty illuminated movie. Yeah so, but yeah,
Speaker 1: be on the lookout for those shirts. Follow up with
Speaker 1: one on the one on one podcast at his own pace. Okay, pace,
Speaker 1: peconte Texas Salsa, some Texas Salsa and some Topo Chico,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna watch al Topo.
Speaker 2: Let's do it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go speak and watch. I'm gonna go watch
Speaker 1: Legion of Skanks.
Speaker 2: All right, bro, appreciate you one.
Speaker 1: All right, take it easy. One to next episode, folks,
Speaker 1: immerse yourself in the moment wherever you are. And then
Speaker 1: now my