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<v Speaker 1>Ninety five miles an hour riding to his head. You

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<v Speaker 1>have him down first with the lumpbonius face, and on

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<v Speaker 1>the very next pitch he up and stole second face.

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<v Speaker 2>With greatst be he wasn't born, he had.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, unifor welcome to the prospect. Besides podcast, this is

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<v Speaker 3>episode Rex.

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<v Speaker 4>Brother Oh, I like that one. That's a good one.

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<v Speaker 3>I just really just liked the name. You know, who

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't love some obscure what ten War relief pitcher from

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<v Speaker 3>the Rockies or something. I don't even know. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>like a Rockies fan at that point, so I don't

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<v Speaker 3>really know if Rex Brothers had so he had to

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<v Speaker 3>have had a couple of decent years for them.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, No, I think he did. He was like a

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<v Speaker 4>leverage reliever at the back end of the pen for

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<v Speaker 4>a bit, and I think had a couple of decent seasons.

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<v Speaker 4>If I remember.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, that's episode forty nine that you haven't tuned in.

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<v Speaker 3>Joined Matt and I. That's Matt Rooke on the other microphone.

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<v Speaker 3>What is Rook twenty twenty five? Right?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because we're in the twenty twenty five season. Finally,

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<v Speaker 4>the Braves number forty nine that popped to my was

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<v Speaker 4>John Rocker, and I guess the less set about him

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<v Speaker 4>the better, But that was, you know peak my fandom

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<v Speaker 4>era late nineties, John Rocker at number forty nine.

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<v Speaker 3>Bernie John Rocker is something.

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<v Speaker 4>He was something, you know, something that's true.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you haven't joined us before, this is a

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<v Speaker 3>Dynasty Baseball podcast about Oh Matt, what do we do?

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<v Speaker 3>I guess we got to do homework and share some

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<v Speaker 3>opinions and views on probably less popular baseball prospects.

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<v Speaker 4>Nate does that, he does homework and watches video. I

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<v Speaker 4>just talk about my shots in the dark that turned

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<v Speaker 4>out to be good picks and crap on Nate's picks,

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<v Speaker 4>and talks mack about everybody else except my guys that

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<v Speaker 4>are doing well. So that's that's what I do. And

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if I bring a whole lot to

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<v Speaker 4>the table other than that, but I'm a pretty face

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<v Speaker 4>on on radio here, So let's let's dive in and

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<v Speaker 4>talk about all my awesome b siders.

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<v Speaker 3>We did well. I don't know. We did about six

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<v Speaker 3>or seven episodes this offseason that as many as I

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<v Speaker 3>had wanted to. But we are back. It's good to

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<v Speaker 3>talk to you, good.

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<v Speaker 4>To see you YouTube, buddy.

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<v Speaker 3>The season is upon us all levels of minor leagues. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>I guess you know. Rookie ball is going, but we

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<v Speaker 3>don't watch that anyways because we can't. But we can't

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<v Speaker 3>major leagues. Well, we're what about a dozen games in

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<v Speaker 3>every team?

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<v Speaker 4>Is about a dozen games now going well for any

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<v Speaker 4>of our teams?

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<v Speaker 3>Really, Hey, Matt, you know the best you can do

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<v Speaker 3>is win today, right?

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<v Speaker 4>My teams couldn't even do that one of my times.

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<v Speaker 3>Did so I'm just not going to let you, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>poop on my parade here for my one day parade.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, that's true. Our major league teams are are

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<v Speaker 3>not doing well. I don't know, Matt. We haven't been

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<v Speaker 3>doing podcasts, but I have been busy working on a website,

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<v Speaker 3>Muddy loooks dot com. I'm trying to have some fun

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<v Speaker 3>with that and put up a lot of video and

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<v Speaker 3>share some opinions. So I have not been lazy. I

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<v Speaker 3>have not been lacking on baseball inputs here. I just

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<v Speaker 3>haven't been haven't been talking in a microphone with it.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm glad to do that tonight.

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<v Speaker 4>Me Noo, I've missed that. We've had a couple of

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<v Speaker 4>near misses where where you thought the nights were gonna

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<v Speaker 4>line up and they haven't. So I'm glad that tonight

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<v Speaker 3>I am not a website builder, so I am hacking

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<v Speaker 3>this altogether best that I can. But I don't know, Matt,

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<v Speaker 3>what do you think any takeaways? There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>opinions that come about in the first couple of weeks

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<v Speaker 3>of season. I don't want to talk about stats tonight, Matt,

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<v Speaker 3>or very little, like they don't mean much to me

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<v Speaker 3>right now, and throwing out somebody's ops after ten games

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<v Speaker 3>just doesn't seem like fruitful endeavor to me.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and people get so sucked into it, right like

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<v Speaker 4>that first hot week. It's so seductive. You think somebody's

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<v Speaker 4>and a guy has unlocked a new talent level or

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<v Speaker 4>you think they're actualizing what was in there all along.

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<v Speaker 4>But I was talking to our friend Connor, who we've

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<v Speaker 4>and we were talking about how he attacks hitters, what

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<v Speaker 4>he'll look to the tendencies of a hitter you know,

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<v Speaker 4>that might be helpful, there might be some signal in there,

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<v Speaker 4>but the sample sizes are still so small, even in

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<v Speaker 4>college and they've played another, you know, fifteen to twenty

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<v Speaker 4>game for the pros so far, it's still such small samples.

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<v Speaker 4>And especially if you're talking about a guy that's maybe

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<v Speaker 4>he does great against changeups. So I'm going to shy

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<v Speaker 4>away from that. Even though my guy has a good

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<v Speaker 4>I was saying that, you know, in my own analysis,

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<v Speaker 4>I would look at that and say, like, it hasn't

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<v Speaker 4>changed my mind very much yet. I'm still probably going

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<v Speaker 4>by my evaluation from the off season. It's going to

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<v Speaker 4>be a while. And I know that sometimes I miss

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<v Speaker 4>out on those kind of guys that have unlocked something new.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I'm just more of a conservative player, and

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<v Speaker 4>I just think that my eyes over a super short

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<v Speaker 4>sample are going to lie to me and I'll get

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<v Speaker 4>sucked in and make a bad choice, and I should

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<v Speaker 4>have just stuck with the guy that I thought was

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<v Speaker 4>going to be better. So that's I mean for me,

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<v Speaker 4>like a lot of this is early season panic and showcase.

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<v Speaker 4>I mostly stay out of it. You know, I'll maybe

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<v Speaker 4>try and pick up a guy or two, And I

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<v Speaker 4>think I did that some success last year with a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of pitchers that showed out really well early on

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<v Speaker 4>because probably we hadn't seen them before. You know, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>thinking last year for me, it was like Classen and

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<v Speaker 4>Jaden Ham, you know, guys that you'd like maybe identified as, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>we've gotten a little look at this, it seems interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>And then they came out the gates and showed something

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<v Speaker 4>really good. But that again was informed by something before that.

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<v Speaker 4>But like I don't know, a guy like kyn Paris

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<v Speaker 4>bigs for the Angels, like, yeah, he's doing some things differently,

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<v Speaker 4>hitting the ball in the air more went to the

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<v Speaker 4>swing change guy for Aaron Judges hitting coach. But is

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<v Speaker 4>he different? I mean, is that gonna sustain? Certainly not

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<v Speaker 4>at this pace, So I don't know. I'm I think

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<v Speaker 4>more conservative than many on this breakout guys and don't

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<v Speaker 3>I think some of that stuff is probably like league

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not an expert de format, but sort of being

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<v Speaker 3>winning those kinds of things. But you know, I'm more

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<v Speaker 3>of a dynasty like the long game, so I'm kind

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<v Speaker 3>of talking about stuff that I don't really about right now.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, and even in the dynasty realm, Like maybe

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<v Speaker 4>or a guy that you were fringy on you're like,

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<v Speaker 4>but you thought was something interesting maybe that tips it

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<v Speaker 4>over the edge, you know, or an st Martinez Junior.

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<v Speaker 4>It's one of those guys I think that you were

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<v Speaker 4>rushing out to roster him this offseason, right Like we

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<v Speaker 4>had a couple of fypds and you didn't draft him

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<v Speaker 4>in those, and then he shows out for a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of weeks and be like, Okay, maybe there is something here,

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<v Speaker 4>and then you make a move. And I feel like

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<v Speaker 4>that's what a lot of our off season prep has done, is,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, we've gotten lists of guys, We've dove in

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<v Speaker 4>still trying not to be wedded to that because it

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<v Speaker 4>still can hide flaws and maybe this is just a

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<v Speaker 4>thought I saw something there before and could totally turn

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<v Speaker 3>Part, you know, yeah, you know, And I like to

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<v Speaker 3>about just like information gathering and bringing about some awareness

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<v Speaker 3>on you know, Ryan Bowlzer, who might not have any

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<v Speaker 3>track record in full season, and what have you saw

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<v Speaker 3>that if names pop up, like we know some stuff

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<v Speaker 3>about it. If you listen to this show, you might

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<v Speaker 3>know be educated, might be a little bit quicker to

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<v Speaker 3>the draw there. But AnyWho I've been sort of focusing

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<v Speaker 3>that what I like to do early in the season

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<v Speaker 3>is I mean, I think hitting is a bit tough

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<v Speaker 3>so little sample size. Right, make a video of a hitter.

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<v Speaker 3>I want like a hundred plate appearances or something like that, Right,

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<v Speaker 3>really get a meaty idea of, you know, the guy's game.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm really into like new pictures hitting the full season

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<v Speaker 3>guys I've never really seen before, maybe some clips from

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<v Speaker 3>the Complex or a little bit in college or what

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<v Speaker 3>have So. I've really just been trying to compare last

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<v Speaker 3>year's list of all the pictures who had a full

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<v Speaker 3>season outing, and this year is which one isn't on

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<v Speaker 3>last year's less than I trying to take a peek.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you hate pictures? So I'm not sure if you've

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<v Speaker 3>been focusing on that side of things too much.

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<v Speaker 4>I also hate pictures because they're so easy, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>Like you watch one outing and it's like a week

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<v Speaker 4>and a half of a hitter, you know, in terms

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<v Speaker 4>of the plate appearances and the units, like just seeing

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<v Speaker 4>pitches is going to be a week and a half,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe two weeks before a hitter gets one hundred swings

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<v Speaker 4>just easy to see those changes and it takes a

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<v Speaker 4>know who's potre for you early about some of these

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<v Speaker 3>I mentioned them already, so maybe Brian Ballzer I'll talk

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<v Speaker 3>about real quickly here. I knew nothing about Matt and

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<v Speaker 3>then somebody in the discord, my guy Jay was like, like, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>who do you guys want a video of or something?

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<v Speaker 3>And he threw his name out, So thanks for that, Jay.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, the Padres signed Ballser from Japan, so he

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<v Speaker 3>just three innings. I turned them on and cut them

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<v Speaker 3>could find. Some rumblings that he has touched one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>miles per hour with the fastball before I think this

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<v Speaker 3>outing it was more like I think the top was

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<v Speaker 3>were some moments where things were, you know, a little rocket,

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<v Speaker 3>He's got kind of a classic You could tell that

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<v Speaker 3>change up, through some breaking balls. Rancho's broadcast you can't

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<v Speaker 3>That Rancho lineup, dude, is like for an a ball team.

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<v Speaker 3>There's like a bit of a murderer's row there top

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I mean he was he was giving those

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<v Speaker 3>an arm with with some tentral here. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>if he's if he's throwing ninety six ninety seven, he's

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<v Speaker 3>the lowers, like, you've got to imagine that's probably going

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<v Speaker 3>seems to go, or at least guys that are on

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<v Speaker 3>that outing too. He was going against a bit of

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<v Speaker 3>an older guy. I think he was a draftee from

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<v Speaker 3>last year. But Aiden Fuller, I think it's how you

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<v Speaker 3>the Dodgers. I think eleventh round pick from last year,

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<v Speaker 3>bigger guy would seem to have a real lively fastball.

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<v Speaker 3>He threw seventy four percent of his seventy three pitches

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<v Speaker 3>but again that that like eleventh round pick is always interested.

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<v Speaker 3>That the first pick of the third day I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like has produced some at least interesting pitching prospects. Sure,

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<v Speaker 3>want to say, like lower. You know, maybe it's just

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<v Speaker 3>because he's a taller guy, but the release point like

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, these guys that throw these sort of

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<v Speaker 3>hard fastballs, these hard sliders seem to be in vogue

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<v Speaker 3>and had a lot of success. I feel like if

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<v Speaker 4>Just looking him up. Yeah, I don't have a lot

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<v Speaker 4>to add on these A ball guys. I haven't gotten

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<v Speaker 4>highlight here or there. I think for me, most of

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<v Speaker 4>ones that are knocking on the door, some of our

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<v Speaker 4>old favorites, and Zebbie Matthews and Logan Henderson. But I'm

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<v Speaker 4>pretty sure that David Festa got the call over Zebbie

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<v Speaker 4>Matthews for the open Pablo Lopez spot for the twin,

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<v Speaker 4>which is a bummer, just because I like Zebbi in

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<v Speaker 4>a vacuum and Zebbie's down there pumping ninety nine and

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<v Speaker 4>not walking anybody again, and that seems like it's going

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<v Speaker 4>to be a fun George Kirbesque upside kind of pitcher.

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<v Speaker 4>It could be pretty good. But I'm curious if you've

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<v Speaker 4>watched much of the Double A or Triple A guys, Nate,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I mean, it's kinds of it. I kind

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<v Speaker 4>of passed on like that. I thought maybe they're cooked.

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<v Speaker 3>JT.

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<v Speaker 4>Ginn's really good in the early going. I wondered if

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<v Speaker 4>you saw anything new there. Jansen Junk, who has been

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<v Speaker 4>kicking around a couple of my thirty teamers on kind

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<v Speaker 4>of that those fringy teams that need an extra arm,

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<v Speaker 4>and he's often available on the wire and he's looked

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<v Speaker 4>pretty good in the early going. You know, I think

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<v Speaker 4>those kinds of guys end up being really interesting in

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<v Speaker 4>deeper dynasty leagues. Is maybe maybe they did figure something

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<v Speaker 4>out in their late twenties and there's something there. But

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<v Speaker 4>have you watched any guys in that realm or that class.

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely, definitely, I mean especially the first week of MiLB

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<v Speaker 3>season was just Triple A, so I was just watching

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<v Speaker 3>Triple A. But I mean, maybe not quite the type

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<v Speaker 3>that you're referring to here, but I did cut up

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<v Speaker 3>and get into Lewinder Avila. Oh yeah, yeah, very much.

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<v Speaker 3>Was this kind of like a whole hum guy coming

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<v Speaker 3>up in my opinion, like definitely aware of him. Definitely

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<v Speaker 3>guy that looked into when we did some of our

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<v Speaker 3>B side stuff. He never really never really caught my

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<v Speaker 3>attention too much. I mean, the k rates have always

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<v Speaker 3>real great either or or pedestrian. But I think he

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<v Speaker 3>looks a little bit different now in Triple A. I

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<v Speaker 3>think the I think the arsenal has got a bit

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<v Speaker 3>to maybe significantly more juicy, jumping.

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<v Speaker 4>Up yesterday fifteen point six percent swinging strike rate in

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<v Speaker 4>Complex in twenty twenty one, like that, and a tiny

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<v Speaker 4>sample with that, so yeah, that's impressive.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and he's on. He was added to their forty

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<v Speaker 3>man this offseason. It's like usually when teams do that,

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<v Speaker 3>they have a pretty good reason. He kind of impressed me.

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<v Speaker 3>I watched. I think it was just like the first

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<v Speaker 3>day of the season. So I watched some Carlos Duran

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<v Speaker 3>who put up this crazy good line with Oklahoma City.

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<v Speaker 3>I would didn't come away like super super impressed with him,

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<v Speaker 3>just more of a thrower, you know. It was very

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<v Speaker 3>like I was like focused in watching like his front

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<v Speaker 3>foot for a while and it was like very intent.

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<v Speaker 3>But he had a good outing and then he ended

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<v Speaker 3>up getting traded to the As. Yeah, like I think

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<v Speaker 3>like the next day or something.

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<v Speaker 4>But he's another those throwing, hard throwing cats.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. I watched it where it's going

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<v Speaker 3>big big body, you know, big guy. I watched some

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<v Speaker 3>cad Horton, you know, as somebody who has a cad

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<v Speaker 3>Horton share the outing. I watched on April his April

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<v Speaker 3>third outing. I was pretty as a Dynasty owner. The

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<v Speaker 3>velocity of the fastball seems back to where it was. Granted,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it was a short out. I don't remember

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<v Speaker 3>when he went three innings or something like that. So

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<v Speaker 3>we got to see how it kind of holds. But

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<v Speaker 3>made me feel good that that Cad Horton from my

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty three is still out there. So that was encouraging.

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<v Speaker 3>We Ell said, I watched triple your boy Mason Barnett.

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<v Speaker 3>I turned him on, but he had a pretty rough outing.

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<v Speaker 3>Not that I'm taking too much away from that, but

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<v Speaker 3>I think his chance pretty close with A's. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of aj blue ball. I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>really much has changed my opinion there. You know, I

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<v Speaker 3>think his chance is coming pretty quick too. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>I think he's he's got a good fast I think

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<v Speaker 3>he's got some good stuff, but like you know, with

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<v Speaker 3>Darnie or anyone, it's about execution with him. For me,

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<v Speaker 3>I watched some Logan Evans watched good looks.

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<v Speaker 4>I was gonna say, it's looked inconsistent so far.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think I had a really good outing last night,

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<v Speaker 3>but I didn't turn that one on. I watched the

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<v Speaker 3>outing that it wasn't real great. I don't really remember,

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<v Speaker 3>or strike myself as much much of a scholar of

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<v Speaker 3>his arsenal pitch usage from last year. But as far

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<v Speaker 3>as that, that didn't seem too different to me. I just,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I just don't think he was making very

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<v Speaker 3>good pitches and executing them very well. It's not the

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<v Speaker 3>most shocking turn of events for someone's first start of

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<v Speaker 3>the season, especially in the minors. You know, I turned

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<v Speaker 3>on our guy Yober a little bit. Again. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think really much has changed there, you know, I think

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<v Speaker 3>he's got plenty of good stuff. It's going to be

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<v Speaker 3>about executing Mars and Seymour. Have you watched krsteymore much

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<v Speaker 3>in the past or.

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<v Speaker 4>In the past, Yeah, Yeah, I've watched a decent bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I mean he just has like a just super

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<v Speaker 3>wicked two steamer right or sinker or whatever. I think

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<v Speaker 3>it grades out really well. I mean, I think he's

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<v Speaker 3>been allauded for that for quite some time, and I

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<v Speaker 3>was kind of interesting. I think I actually took a

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<v Speaker 3>share of him in a draft heading into twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 3>and last year just did not really work out. But

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<v Speaker 3>I'm curious to see if she's going to get a

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<v Speaker 3>shot relatively soon. Your boy Logan Henderson, watch some of him.

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<v Speaker 3>I know he's got what he just got passed over.

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<v Speaker 3>They traded for Priester Patrick, your other guy. Patrick's up

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<v Speaker 3>there and doing his thing, you know. But Henderson, I

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<v Speaker 3>just keep wondering, is it like just cause like the

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<v Speaker 3>breaking ball game is still just like I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>He looked good in one of the starts that I watched.

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<v Speaker 4>I think one of the starts he was a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit kind of a shaky command, walked a couple more

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<v Speaker 4>than he usually does. But the next start out, I

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<v Speaker 4>thought he looked great and changeup was incredible, fastball was incredible,

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<v Speaker 4>looked like he was still working on the slider. It

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't great, but it is a different look, a bridge

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<v Speaker 4>look in between those pitches and something news to keep

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<v Speaker 4>Righty's honest, but I just think his fastball and changeup

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<v Speaker 4>are so good that he's going to get Brighty's out too.

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<v Speaker 4>It is interesting saying that they have passed him over

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<v Speaker 4>a couple of times, both in the off season and

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<v Speaker 4>now when they've had openings for the Brewer crew. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>really wondering why I think there's room for Patrick and

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<v Speaker 4>Henderson and ac Hunt and held Mizerowski if they want

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<v Speaker 4>to try that game sooner rather than later. Just the

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<v Speaker 4>Brewers seem like they're they're looking for what's going to

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<v Speaker 4>fit in that rotation, and I think Henderson's probably my

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<v Speaker 4>pick of that group. Patrick's looked okay and brought his

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<v Speaker 4>kind of three fastball look to the the bigs, and

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<v Speaker 4>that's fun to see, fun to see that it's mostly working.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought his first outing, I think it was he

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<v Speaker 4>looked pretty good. Maybe a little bit shakier in the second,

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<v Speaker 4>but I still am a real big believer in henderson

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<v Speaker 4>breaking ball shape game.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, I watched a couple couple pretty boys Matt

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<v Speaker 3>of a fan of as everybody else or a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of other people in Bubba Chandler and Chase Petty. I

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<v Speaker 3>have not really ever gotten the Chase Petty love. Like

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<v Speaker 3>there's got to be some you know, data that I'm

421
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<v Speaker 3>not privy too, but I see, like, really favorable grades

422
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<v Speaker 3>get put on Chase Petty's fastball ever since he got drafted,

423
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<v Speaker 3>and I'm sorry, I think his fastball game is very

424
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<v Speaker 3>still part So I'm not a big fan of him.

425
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<v Speaker 3>Bubba Chandler obviously super talented. There's some wicked stuff, but

426
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<v Speaker 3>just the inability to like put a breaking ball where

427
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<v Speaker 3>you want to just really keeps him out of the

428
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<v Speaker 3>elite tier. For me, Matt, I might very well look

429
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<v Speaker 3>like an idiot when he comes up and does some

430
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<v Speaker 3>spencer strider s stuff or something, but I'm willing to

431
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<v Speaker 3>bet that that does happen.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I kind of agree with you. I do think

433
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<v Speaker 4>the fastball looks pretty good. You know, it's got good

434
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<v Speaker 4>shape and velocity, and he for the most part attacks

435
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<v Speaker 4>it that pretty well. But I in my looks at

436
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<v Speaker 4>him too, I've seen that breaker be a bit all

437
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<v Speaker 4>over the place, and you know, I just don't like that.

438
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<v Speaker 3>I don't like That's like if that's the penultimate starting

439
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<v Speaker 3>pitching prospect right now, Like I can't I can't go that.

440
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And I don't know when you get to that

441
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<v Speaker 4>like tippy top here where you're talking. This is a

442
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<v Speaker 4>top five arm minor leagues.

443
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<v Speaker 3>I mean for some he's number one, Matt.

444
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And even if he's just in that top five, personally,

445
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<v Speaker 4>I like to see a combination of workhorse like has

446
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<v Speaker 4>he put up innings And I think that he checks

447
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<v Speaker 4>that box pretty comfortably for me, so like I like that. Unlike,

448
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<v Speaker 4>you know, maybe job was a little bit undercooked in

449
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<v Speaker 4>that realm Mizerowski for sure, some of those other guys

450
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<v Speaker 4>that kind of get bumped up there, like Chandler at

451
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<v Speaker 4>least has put a hefty amount of innings up, so like,

452
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<v Speaker 4>I think he can handle a big league starters workload.

453
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<v Speaker 4>But the other thing that I like to see before

454
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<v Speaker 4>I actually get excited about a Dynasty pitcher is is

455
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<v Speaker 4>he actually dominating and has Bobba Chandler really ever done that?

456
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<v Speaker 4>Like his run at the end of the year last

457
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<v Speaker 4>year up to Triple A was pretty darn good, you know,

458
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<v Speaker 4>punching out thirty four percent of batters walking nine point

459
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<v Speaker 4>four that's a really good k misbb at the uppers.

460
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<v Speaker 4>But it also came with a slightly depressed babbit, a

461
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<v Speaker 4>little bit of left on base luck, you know, eighty

462
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<v Speaker 4>two percent left on base kept that era really low,

463
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<v Speaker 4>and to me it hid just a little bit of

464
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<v Speaker 4>Like I think some of the luck metrics are all

465
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<v Speaker 4>tilted in his direction in this, which happens sometimes, but

466
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<v Speaker 4>all three of his babbitb his homewer or flyball rate,

467
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<v Speaker 4>and is left on base rate, which are super random

468
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<v Speaker 4>your rear, there's no correlation to like, this is not

469
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<v Speaker 4>a repeatable skill for the most part, and his were

470
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<v Speaker 4>all super favorable and he still wasn't like really really dominant.

471
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<v Speaker 4>I still like him because of the workhorse concerns, like

472
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<v Speaker 4>that he has put up innings and has mostly succeeded,

473
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<v Speaker 4>and I kind of like, for me visually, he's a

474
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<v Speaker 4>guy that I think is going to figure out the command.

475
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<v Speaker 4>Like his delivery looks relatively repeatable to me, so I

476
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<v Speaker 4>think that he's still you know, a dynasty arm that

477
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<v Speaker 4>is a pretty boy that I think is gonna figure

478
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<v Speaker 4>it out. But I kind of think that he's going

479
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<v Speaker 4>to struggle when he gets like I think he's going

480
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<v Speaker 4>to be one of these guys that gets up to

481
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<v Speaker 4>the big realizes his fastball is good rather than great,

482
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<v Speaker 4>and when he has trouble locating his off speed pitches,

483
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<v Speaker 4>that's I think going to compound this situation and that

484
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<v Speaker 4>pretty homer and a fly ball rate that's like sitting

485
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<v Speaker 4>down in the low single digits is going to be

486
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<v Speaker 4>you know, mid teens, and it's going to be a

487
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<v Speaker 4>different proposition, so to me, like Chandler doesn't look like

488
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<v Speaker 4>a guy that I think he's going to come up

489
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<v Speaker 4>and dominate right away. And I don't know if there

490
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<v Speaker 4>are many arms like that in the miners, to be honest,

491
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<v Speaker 4>Like there's just there's a little knit to pick with

492
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<v Speaker 4>all of those guys top end.

493
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<v Speaker 3>I'm just waiting for Painter, I know.

494
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<v Speaker 4>But the knit with him is it's going to be

495
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<v Speaker 4>like two frigging years since he's went five innings or something,

496
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<v Speaker 4>three years maybe since he went five innings.

497
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<v Speaker 3>I think he has a lot of meat left on

498
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<v Speaker 3>his career's bone here, Oh for sure, for sure.

499
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<v Speaker 4>But how much are we going to see this year?

500
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<v Speaker 4>How long does it take? I was listening to the

501
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<v Speaker 4>Roundtable on the Athletic Do you know that that podcast?

502
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<v Speaker 3>That's a couple of.

503
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<v Speaker 4>A couple of beat writers, one from LA one for

504
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<v Speaker 4>San Francisco, and then Sam Miller, who's my favorite baseball writer,

505
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<v Speaker 4>the three of them Mondays and Fridays.

506
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<v Speaker 3>I'm familiar with him.

507
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, so great crew. They're all super smart, really funny,

508
00:23:05.960 --> 00:23:08.559
<v Speaker 4>like they just vibe with me super well. But they're

509
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<v Speaker 4>always so interesting because they'll each have a question or

510
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<v Speaker 4>a take that really makes me think about things. Differently,

511
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<v Speaker 4>And I can't remember what it was Grant Brisbee or Andy

512
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<v Speaker 4>McCullough that wrote. Maybe it was Grant, I can't remember.

513
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<v Speaker 4>One of them wrote this article for The Athletic about aces,

514
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<v Speaker 4>So who's an ace? And they surveyed all these people

515
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<v Speaker 4>in the front offices and publish it. And it's like,

516
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<v Speaker 4>you know, as you would expect, a listing of the

517
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<v Speaker 4>best pictures in baseball, but they had a whole ranking

518
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<v Speaker 4>system and grading system for if this many people said

519
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<v Speaker 4>they're an ACE, they're a tippy top tier ace. If

520
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<v Speaker 4>some people said they're in the conversation, maybe they're a

521
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<v Speaker 4>mid tier like maybe an ace, maybe a number two,

522
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<v Speaker 4>you know that kind of thing. So they've got this

523
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<v Speaker 4>like ranking system that they use. But in listening to

524
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<v Speaker 4>their own definition of who's an ACE and who's the

525
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<v Speaker 4>best picture in baseball, the criteria were really interesting, and

526
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<v Speaker 4>one of them was have you done it before? So

527
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<v Speaker 4>if it's your first year and you're showing out, you

528
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<v Speaker 4>can't be the best picture in baseball. So like schmes By,

529
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<v Speaker 4>this definition can't be the best picture in baseball because

530
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<v Speaker 4>he did it one year. Can he back it up

531
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<v Speaker 4>or is he going to go the way of Matt

532
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<v Speaker 4>Harpt and decline after two years of good performance and

533
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<v Speaker 4>then some injury decline, it takes a little longer to

534
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<v Speaker 4>kind of earn that crown. And I feel that way

535
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<v Speaker 4>about pictures in the minor league too, the guys that

536
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<v Speaker 4>come out of nowhere and they're really dominant for four innings,

537
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<v Speaker 4>three innings at a time. That gets my attention, like

538
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<v Speaker 4>I'm interested, but it's hard for that to earn that

539
00:24:27.359 --> 00:24:30.039
<v Speaker 4>thoroughbred racehorse. You know. We've joked about this with Caden

540
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<v Speaker 4>Dana over the last year, that he's a guy who

541
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<v Speaker 4>was putting up a lot of inning and getting really

542
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<v Speaker 4>solid results, especially for his age as he rose through

543
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<v Speaker 4>the miners last year. I had concerns about him for

544
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<v Speaker 4>other reasons, but that like level of can you put

545
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<v Speaker 4>the innings on your arm and your body and build

546
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<v Speaker 4>that resume out It matters quite a bit to me.

547
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<v Speaker 4>And when you're looking at like who are these dynasty

548
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<v Speaker 4>arms that I really want to go to bat for

549
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<v Speaker 4>and I want a roster And it was just interesting

550
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<v Speaker 4>hearing them apply a similar kind of framework to who

551
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<v Speaker 4>are the best pictures in in baseball? Like Strider, he's

552
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<v Speaker 4>one that might have been in the conversation before his

553
00:25:05.079 --> 00:25:08.039
<v Speaker 4>surgery last year, and his sure looks like the best

554
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<v Speaker 4>picture in the minor leagues right now, But he's got

555
00:25:10.519 --> 00:25:12.400
<v Speaker 4>to get back to the major leagues, show that he's

556
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<v Speaker 4>healthy this year, and then repeat it next year for

557
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<v Speaker 4>him to kind of be in that best picture in

558
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<v Speaker 4>baseball conversation, Like according to Grant, Well.

559
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<v Speaker 3>You know, there's I mean, there's also been plenty of

560
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<v Speaker 3>pitchers who loved the lat of innings dominated in the

561
00:25:24.519 --> 00:25:27.599
<v Speaker 3>minor proved themselves that extent, and then are horrible in

562
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<v Speaker 3>the mage, right, And I think just at the end

563
00:25:29.480 --> 00:25:31.440
<v Speaker 3>of the day, you're never going to know until you

564
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<v Speaker 3>get the major league test where you get a lineup

565
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<v Speaker 3>that you cannot fuck around. You have to be on

566
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<v Speaker 3>your game here. You can get away with a bad

567
00:25:40.599 --> 00:25:42.960
<v Speaker 3>pitch here and there, of course, but like you don't

568
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<v Speaker 3>get the same sort of breaks that you do even

569
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<v Speaker 3>some of the best triple A line right.

570
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think we've seen this over and over again.

571
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<v Speaker 4>Like a couple of guys who just popped in mind

572
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<v Speaker 4>for me, Max Meyer and Ryan Weathers. Weathers was one

573
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<v Speaker 4>of the worst starting pitchers when he came up in

574
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<v Speaker 4>San Diego. Like he I think he had a decent

575
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<v Speaker 4>first outing, but then was like terrible walking everybody wasn't

576
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<v Speaker 4>striking anybody out. He wasn't good for multiple years and

577
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<v Speaker 4>then has reinvented himself in Miami and showed something last

578
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<v Speaker 4>year and then looked great coming out this year and

579
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<v Speaker 4>the hurt. Max Meyer dominated the mine came up and

580
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<v Speaker 4>was so good I think for some was the top

581
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<v Speaker 4>pitching prospect when he graduated whatever that year was like

582
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<v Speaker 4>three four years ago, and then hit the majors and

583
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<v Speaker 4>his slider was still plus, but everything else got hammer

584
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<v Speaker 4>and he was bad and then hurt and then bad

585
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<v Speaker 4>and then maybe now he's figuring it out. I think

586
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<v Speaker 4>that kind of early season looks like some of the

587
00:26:35.039 --> 00:26:38.680
<v Speaker 4>pitch shapes are different. Maybe that Miami has helped him

588
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<v Speaker 4>develop finally, but that's a guy that, like he came

589
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<v Speaker 4>up with the Miners and was really really dominant, I

590
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<v Speaker 4>mean along the lines of some of these top pitching

591
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<v Speaker 4>prospects that we're talking about now, and then it took

592
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<v Speaker 4>him gosh five years to really figure it out in

593
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<v Speaker 4>the major leagues. And I don't know. I think that

594
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<v Speaker 4>going to the conversation that we started that we opened

595
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<v Speaker 4>with the hot take nature and the really fat leaps

596
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<v Speaker 4>to judgment that we make, even in the dynasty space

597
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<v Speaker 4>doesn't really allow for the levels of nuance and letting

598
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<v Speaker 4>a guy percolate. I mean, yeah, Like I just looked

599
00:27:10.200 --> 00:27:14.640
<v Speaker 4>up Meyer's stats, and dude was brushing the minor league's

600
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<v Speaker 4>you know, similar numbers in a lot of ways to

601
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<v Speaker 4>Bubba Chandler. Maybe not quite as good as strike out right,

602
00:27:20.519 --> 00:27:23.279
<v Speaker 4>but better ground ball rate, really really good numbers all

603
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<v Speaker 4>the way. He gets up to the majors in twenty

604
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<v Speaker 4>twenty two, runs a six point four to five fit,

605
00:27:28.839 --> 00:27:32.200
<v Speaker 4>negative one war, just one outing, then gets fifty, then

606
00:27:32.240 --> 00:27:34.960
<v Speaker 4>gets hurt, then gets fifty seven innings last year and

607
00:27:35.039 --> 00:27:37.200
<v Speaker 4>runs a five point nine fit. And this was one

608
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<v Speaker 4>of the better pitchers in the minor leagues, and he

609
00:27:39.519 --> 00:27:42.039
<v Speaker 4>built up innings, you know, through one hundred innings one year,

610
00:27:42.079 --> 00:27:44.720
<v Speaker 4>one hundred and thirty innings the next year. Like that.

611
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<v Speaker 4>He was a workhorse that was dominating every level at

612
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<v Speaker 4>a young age, had an elite pitch, came up and

613
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<v Speaker 4>just got port for the better part of three years,

614
00:27:52.920 --> 00:27:55.880
<v Speaker 4>including the injury year, and then now looks like he

615
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<v Speaker 4>really has founded another gear and is showing good on

616
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<v Speaker 4>the promise, but like they think about that as guys

617
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<v Speaker 4>are coming up and struggle. Those are the guys to

618
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<v Speaker 4>maybe invest in as a rebuilding team when somebody's on

619
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<v Speaker 4>the downtick and see if you catch him on the

620
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<v Speaker 4>rise back up as they start to figure things out.

621
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<v Speaker 3>And that's why I mean, to me, the number one

622
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<v Speaker 3>most important attribute that a pitcher needs to have is like,

623
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<v Speaker 3>you've got to be able to make the baseball do

624
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<v Speaker 3>what you wanted to at a very high end. I

625
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<v Speaker 3>don't really know how we know that or try to

626
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<v Speaker 3>make a guess at that other than watching yeah.

627
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<v Speaker 4>And watching him helps. I mean, you've made a point

628
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<v Speaker 4>a couple of times tonight, and I think it's a

629
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<v Speaker 4>good one about data and like what can we see?

630
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<v Speaker 4>It is so addictive to be able to see some

631
00:28:39.279 --> 00:28:42.240
<v Speaker 4>of the cool stuff at the stack cast makes available,

632
00:28:42.319 --> 00:28:44.240
<v Speaker 4>and even some of the people that are that are

633
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<v Speaker 4>like turning that into I think more usable things like

634
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<v Speaker 4>stack cast as a website itself, I think has some limitations,

635
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<v Speaker 4>but it's really cool to see some of the more

636
00:28:51.200 --> 00:28:54.880
<v Speaker 4>public stuff numbers and you know, Thomas Nestico, I think

637
00:28:54.920 --> 00:28:57.160
<v Speaker 4>the stuff that he's doing is super cool showing that

638
00:28:57.240 --> 00:29:00.359
<v Speaker 4>you know, Lance bridous birds out tea for how to

639
00:29:00.359 --> 00:29:01.920
<v Speaker 4>pronounce his name, but some of the stuff that he

640
00:29:01.960 --> 00:29:04.359
<v Speaker 4>does to showcase the data that you can pull out

641
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<v Speaker 4>of there. I watched the first couple episodes of the

642
00:29:07.480 --> 00:29:10.880
<v Speaker 4>Red Sox documentary on Netflix, and you know, it's well done,

643
00:29:10.920 --> 00:29:13.680
<v Speaker 4>Like it's fun to get this kind of unvarnished look

644
00:29:13.680 --> 00:29:15.880
<v Speaker 4>at the clubhouse and some good characters in there. I

645
00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:18.400
<v Speaker 4>think they picked the team up. But the coolest stuff

646
00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:21.640
<v Speaker 4>has been seeing Andrew Bailey, the Red Sox pitching coach,

647
00:29:21.839 --> 00:29:25.400
<v Speaker 4>nerd it out with these guys. And you'll see in bullpens,

648
00:29:25.400 --> 00:29:28.319
<v Speaker 4>guys are throwing bullpens and on the screen, they've got

649
00:29:28.359 --> 00:29:32.279
<v Speaker 4>the live track man data showing the spin revolutions and

650
00:29:32.319 --> 00:29:36.680
<v Speaker 4>the orientation. They've got the edgeotronic camera showing super slow

651
00:29:36.759 --> 00:29:40.079
<v Speaker 4>motion finger placement and ball spin as it comes out.

652
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<v Speaker 4>And they've got all of the traditional you know, velocity

653
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<v Speaker 4>metrics and everything else. But then they've also got a

654
00:29:46.200 --> 00:29:50.079
<v Speaker 4>biomechanical visualization. So they and he's saying to one of

655
00:29:50.119 --> 00:29:53.720
<v Speaker 4>the pitchers, your knee is planted right, but it's just

656
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<v Speaker 4>pointed a little bit off to the first base side,

657
00:29:56.480 --> 00:29:58.720
<v Speaker 4>and here's what that's doing. To your whole kinetic change

658
00:29:58.759 --> 00:30:01.200
<v Speaker 4>and like that stuff is it's just so cool to

659
00:30:01.240 --> 00:30:04.039
<v Speaker 4>be able to stitch all of those things together and

660
00:30:04.119 --> 00:30:07.039
<v Speaker 4>see how it then shows up in the pitch. I

661
00:30:07.119 --> 00:30:09.799
<v Speaker 4>say all of that just to highlight that, like, these

662
00:30:09.839 --> 00:30:12.759
<v Speaker 4>teams are so much fucking smarter than we are, and

663
00:30:12.920 --> 00:30:15.599
<v Speaker 4>even the teams that are like still trying to catch up,

664
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<v Speaker 4>you know, your White Sox of the world, your Rockies

665
00:30:18.319 --> 00:30:21.119
<v Speaker 4>of the world. Not to pick it two teams at random,

666
00:30:21.400 --> 00:30:24.799
<v Speaker 4>but those like these teams, they have access to and

667
00:30:25.160 --> 00:30:28.839
<v Speaker 4>so much information, not least of it is is this

668
00:30:28.960 --> 00:30:32.720
<v Speaker 4>guy actually committed to getting better? Is this guy putting

669
00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:36.279
<v Speaker 4>in the work and is he receptive to feedback and

670
00:30:36.519 --> 00:30:38.839
<v Speaker 4>that kind of stuff is like it's so cool to

671
00:30:38.960 --> 00:30:41.200
<v Speaker 4>see and getting a little glimpse of it like in

672
00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:45.480
<v Speaker 4>this in this documentary, but it's also just so frustrating

673
00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:48.160
<v Speaker 4>from my end when or from our end, when we're

674
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<v Speaker 4>like I got a Fangrafts leaderboard amilb dot com that

675
00:30:51.400 --> 00:30:54.319
<v Speaker 4>kind of works sometimes and a stream that's showing a

676
00:30:54.359 --> 00:30:57.559
<v Speaker 4>press box cam and I'm trying to evaluate pitch movement

677
00:30:57.720 --> 00:31:00.359
<v Speaker 4>and like command, you know, like you can't get you

678
00:31:00.359 --> 00:31:04.559
<v Speaker 4>can't It's we're spoiled in some ways. And that's why

679
00:31:04.640 --> 00:31:06.799
<v Speaker 4>it's been fun, I think, in recent years to look

680
00:31:06.799 --> 00:31:09.359
<v Speaker 4>at the Triple A stuff and compare it to Big League,

681
00:31:09.400 --> 00:31:12.240
<v Speaker 4>because it can make that comparison. But look, even the

682
00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:14.920
<v Speaker 4>little bits of info that we get from the Baseball

683
00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:18.519
<v Speaker 4>America guys or from Chris clag like, it's still nothing.

684
00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:21.000
<v Speaker 4>You know, you're not you're not getting anything compared to

685
00:31:21.000 --> 00:31:21.680
<v Speaker 4>what the teams have.

686
00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:25.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, for sure. To me watching it's just execution,

687
00:31:25.559 --> 00:31:27.160
<v Speaker 3>trying to figure out who's good at it or not.

688
00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:30.200
<v Speaker 3>We digressed there. But some other Triple League guys that

689
00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:32.920
<v Speaker 3>I had watched, Matt was like a guy Lazaro Estrata

690
00:31:33.400 --> 00:31:35.920
<v Speaker 3>talk about talk about execution. It was very.

691
00:31:36.480 --> 00:31:40.279
<v Speaker 4>Terrible outing I watched, so that he got destroyed.

692
00:31:40.319 --> 00:31:44.079
<v Speaker 3>I know, you know, watch a couple of the Cardinals guys,

693
00:31:44.079 --> 00:31:46.839
<v Speaker 3>nothing really new to say, you know, the new opinions

694
00:31:46.839 --> 00:31:48.759
<v Speaker 3>that I took away from there. But there was one

695
00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:51.359
<v Speaker 3>pretty boy that I was pretty impressed, and I you know,

696
00:31:51.559 --> 00:31:53.920
<v Speaker 3>seen him in college a few times, the clips from

697
00:31:54.000 --> 00:31:55.759
<v Speaker 3>here and there's but never really sat down and watch

698
00:31:55.759 --> 00:31:58.160
<v Speaker 3>a whole outing. And this was an abbreviated debut. But

699
00:31:58.240 --> 00:32:00.799
<v Speaker 3>Chase Petty impressed me. Matt, I like Chase pet and

700
00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:03.599
<v Speaker 3>the broadcast had a great comp I think, and this

701
00:32:03.680 --> 00:32:05.799
<v Speaker 3>comp would have made no sense to me. Oh you

702
00:32:05.880 --> 00:32:07.599
<v Speaker 3>just still didn't like that.

703
00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:09.720
<v Speaker 4>I think you just said you didn't like Chase Petty.

704
00:32:09.839 --> 00:32:11.519
<v Speaker 3>Damn it, Chase Burns. I'm sorry.

705
00:32:11.599 --> 00:32:13.720
<v Speaker 4>I was gonna say, I didn't think that's who you're talking.

706
00:32:13.880 --> 00:32:16.319
<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, I'm sorry. They're next to each other

707
00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:18.720
<v Speaker 3>on my list here, and I screwed Chase Burns. Chase

708
00:32:18.759 --> 00:32:21.680
<v Speaker 3>Burns debut, but the booth and I don't know if

709
00:32:21.680 --> 00:32:24.039
<v Speaker 3>they got it from a coach that pumped him to

710
00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:27.480
<v Speaker 3>Dylan Cease and I would never have like put that

711
00:32:27.519 --> 00:32:29.559
<v Speaker 3>together until I watch. But if you watch, like his

712
00:32:29.559 --> 00:32:32.359
<v Speaker 3>his fastball has two breaking balls and there's change up

713
00:32:32.359 --> 00:32:36.400
<v Speaker 3>to probably not that great like Cease was, is not

714
00:32:36.559 --> 00:32:38.640
<v Speaker 3>that great, but just the pitch shaped and the way

715
00:32:38.680 --> 00:32:41.119
<v Speaker 3>that they sort of go off of each other seemed

716
00:32:41.240 --> 00:32:44.319
<v Speaker 3>very Dylan. So I'm curious. I'm wondering if he's maybe

717
00:32:44.319 --> 00:32:47.480
<v Speaker 3>even still a little bit under underdone. But on Dynasty

718
00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:50.359
<v Speaker 3>lists and stuff like that, but obviously pro career just started.

719
00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:51.200
<v Speaker 3>Lots more to learn.

720
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, we've talked a little bit about him

721
00:32:53.279 --> 00:32:56.240
<v Speaker 4>and the discord, And you know, I think that his

722
00:32:56.920 --> 00:33:00.000
<v Speaker 4>slider is one of the single best pitches I've seen,

723
00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:04.079
<v Speaker 4>just in terms of velocity, that the outcomes the way

724
00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:06.759
<v Speaker 4>he uses it like it has a legit claim, I

725
00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:09.000
<v Speaker 4>think to one of the very best pitches in the

726
00:33:09.039 --> 00:33:11.720
<v Speaker 4>minor leagues. The thing I was surprised about is doing

727
00:33:11.759 --> 00:33:14.279
<v Speaker 4>a little bit of digging into some non public info,

728
00:33:14.759 --> 00:33:18.000
<v Speaker 4>is that his fastball got hit pretty well in college.

729
00:33:18.039 --> 00:33:20.880
<v Speaker 4>Obviously different for lots of reasons, but you know, in

730
00:33:21.359 --> 00:33:24.960
<v Speaker 4>not even the premiere conference, it still got hit you know,

731
00:33:25.079 --> 00:33:28.200
<v Speaker 4>acc guy instead of the SEC and it still got

732
00:33:28.279 --> 00:33:31.079
<v Speaker 4>hit pretty hard. He still got great results. Don't get

733
00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:33.480
<v Speaker 4>me wrong, Lots of a lot like good shapes, good

734
00:33:33.480 --> 00:33:37.480
<v Speaker 4>IVB's great velocity for sure, but it's something to monitor

735
00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:40.319
<v Speaker 4>with him as he goes up the minor league ladder.

736
00:33:40.480 --> 00:33:42.960
<v Speaker 4>Does he have a little Max Meyer skin him where

737
00:33:43.000 --> 00:33:46.279
<v Speaker 4>he's got an elite slider, But maybe the velocity is

738
00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:48.559
<v Speaker 4>hiding a fastball that maybe is a little bit more

739
00:33:48.640 --> 00:33:51.079
<v Speaker 4>vulnerable than you'd like to see because I think his

740
00:33:51.400 --> 00:33:54.160
<v Speaker 4>like the back shape of the fastball is maybe not

741
00:33:54.359 --> 00:33:57.279
<v Speaker 4>ideal given his arm angle, and he gets good ride,

742
00:33:57.279 --> 00:33:59.319
<v Speaker 4>but I think he releases it a little bit higher,

743
00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:02.240
<v Speaker 4>so it's not quite as kind of flat as like above.

744
00:34:02.279 --> 00:34:05.359
<v Speaker 4>A champ I think has a better fastball ship than Burns,

745
00:34:05.359 --> 00:34:07.720
<v Speaker 4>but I count me as a fan. I think when

746
00:34:07.759 --> 00:34:11.360
<v Speaker 4>I did some research into after Fangrafts published a bunch

747
00:34:11.400 --> 00:34:13.880
<v Speaker 4>of the college data, I looked at, like the previous

748
00:34:13.920 --> 00:34:16.960
<v Speaker 4>seasons and who really stood out and have those dominant

749
00:34:17.039 --> 00:34:19.920
<v Speaker 4>stat lines college translated to Pro Bowl. The answer is

750
00:34:19.960 --> 00:34:22.679
<v Speaker 4>not always. But Chase Burns I think had a pretty

751
00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:25.239
<v Speaker 4>good argument to have the best college pitching season in

752
00:34:25.280 --> 00:34:27.199
<v Speaker 4>the last however many years that it was on that

753
00:34:27.320 --> 00:34:29.920
<v Speaker 4>lat the last four years. So he's good. He's good.

754
00:34:29.960 --> 00:34:31.920
<v Speaker 3>There's a reason why he, you know, made just as

755
00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:34.360
<v Speaker 3>much or not more money than anybody else.

756
00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:36.920
<v Speaker 4>In the Yeah, he's a he's a fun one.

757
00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:39.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Like I said, hopping around watching some debuts. But

758
00:34:39.880 --> 00:34:42.519
<v Speaker 3>there was one debut that I have been looking forward to.

759
00:34:42.679 --> 00:34:45.079
<v Speaker 3>I thought maybe we'd get it last year. But Dylan

760
00:34:45.159 --> 00:34:49.199
<v Speaker 3>qstead of yeah it was did you watch it? Yeah?

761
00:34:49.280 --> 00:34:50.599
<v Speaker 3>I did it. Yeah, I cut it up and I

762
00:34:50.599 --> 00:34:52.639
<v Speaker 3>put it on the site and with all the with

763
00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:54.760
<v Speaker 3>all the stat cast stuff side by side with it,

764
00:34:54.920 --> 00:34:57.239
<v Speaker 3>watched a little bit of him as a prep right,

765
00:34:57.320 --> 00:34:59.360
<v Speaker 3>some of the Perfect Game stuff he had, like you know,

766
00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:02.440
<v Speaker 3>firm fast ball from Slider that I thought he could

767
00:35:02.559 --> 00:35:05.960
<v Speaker 3>locate really well like East West, you know, relatively speaking

768
00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:09.880
<v Speaker 3>to other Perfect Game clips, and you know the showcases

769
00:35:09.920 --> 00:35:13.360
<v Speaker 3>and stuff that I that I occasionally watch. But you know,

770
00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:14.960
<v Speaker 3>you watch a guy and you're like, oh, I wonder

771
00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:17.119
<v Speaker 3>if this I wonder if what if this is going

772
00:35:17.199 --> 00:35:20.079
<v Speaker 3>to be kind of like lots of different offering offerings,

773
00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:23.239
<v Speaker 3>kitchen sink, kind of got pitchability, blah blah blah, that

774
00:35:23.320 --> 00:35:24.840
<v Speaker 3>sort of guy. And then he showed up and his

775
00:35:25.239 --> 00:35:27.800
<v Speaker 3>debut was like kind of exactly what I was hoping

776
00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:31.840
<v Speaker 3>to see. And then like more advanced sequencing and mixing

777
00:35:31.960 --> 00:35:35.760
<v Speaker 3>and throwing like everything everybody different counts and all that,

778
00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:38.079
<v Speaker 3>you know, the stuff that we like a lot now right,

779
00:35:38.159 --> 00:35:41.679
<v Speaker 3>the stuff that could could portend to you know, having

780
00:35:41.719 --> 00:35:45.679
<v Speaker 3>successful sure just right right right, yeah right? So I

781
00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:48.679
<v Speaker 3>don't know if anything is gonna ever, and who knows too.

782
00:35:48.760 --> 00:35:51.760
<v Speaker 3>With the Twins man, they got Zemmie Matthews hitting like

783
00:35:51.880 --> 00:35:55.000
<v Speaker 3>ninety eight miles per hour. Now is that twins? Oh? Really?

784
00:35:55.119 --> 00:35:57.719
<v Speaker 3>Is that is that Twins? Is that him? Is that?

785
00:35:57.800 --> 00:35:59.760
<v Speaker 3>You know other coaches that he has outside of the

786
00:35:59.840 --> 00:36:02.639
<v Speaker 3>order they shot. But they tend to have these guys

787
00:36:02.679 --> 00:36:05.039
<v Speaker 3>where they you know, they draft picture and then they

788
00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:07.039
<v Speaker 3>try to sharpen the skill. At least that's what it

789
00:36:07.079 --> 00:36:08.920
<v Speaker 3>seems for me watching a lot of the guys the

790
00:36:09.039 --> 00:36:11.039
<v Speaker 3>last five years. But I like the spot, I like

791
00:36:11.079 --> 00:36:13.559
<v Speaker 3>where he's that. I'm super interested to see how the

792
00:36:13.599 --> 00:36:16.199
<v Speaker 3>rest of his season and career goes, because he could

793
00:36:16.360 --> 00:36:18.079
<v Speaker 3>very well end up being one of the guys he

794
00:36:18.159 --> 00:36:18.639
<v Speaker 3>kind of left.

795
00:36:18.679 --> 00:36:21.039
<v Speaker 4>All right, all right, good shout. You've had a couple

796
00:36:21.039 --> 00:36:23.760
<v Speaker 4>of them. I mean, I saw yerming Rosario's first outing

797
00:36:23.880 --> 00:36:26.039
<v Speaker 4>was incredible, like if he looked awesome.

798
00:36:25.800 --> 00:36:28.360
<v Speaker 3>I didn't walk anybody I know and punched out like

799
00:36:28.400 --> 00:36:29.760
<v Speaker 3>eight or something like it was.

800
00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:31.679
<v Speaker 4>It was a great one. And speaking of guys that

801
00:36:31.840 --> 00:36:34.440
<v Speaker 4>came out of nowhere and didn't walk anybody, Griff McGary

802
00:36:34.599 --> 00:36:37.880
<v Speaker 4>went four innings, punched out eight and didn't walk anybody. Wow,

803
00:36:38.039 --> 00:36:40.519
<v Speaker 4>this guy ever had an outing where he didn't walk

804
00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:43.320
<v Speaker 4>multiple people, Like I genuinely don't know.

805
00:36:43.480 --> 00:36:45.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I feel like the Phillies do have

806
00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:49.559
<v Speaker 3>had some success with some guys really bumping up their

807
00:36:49.719 --> 00:36:52.559
<v Speaker 3>their command, their their execution strike now, and I think

808
00:36:52.599 --> 00:36:56.280
<v Speaker 3>we had questioned if some of his really bad ability

809
00:36:56.360 --> 00:36:58.559
<v Speaker 3>with that stuff past I had to do with some injuries,

810
00:36:58.559 --> 00:37:01.119
<v Speaker 3>blisters and stuff. I don't bet, dude, Joe Boyle can

811
00:37:01.159 --> 00:37:03.360
<v Speaker 3>go an outing or two that walk a lot, and

812
00:37:03.400 --> 00:37:05.840
<v Speaker 3>then I never really that's the bes thing with that stuff.

813
00:37:05.880 --> 00:37:08.559
<v Speaker 3>I could never really like, holy trust to me, it's like,

814
00:37:08.639 --> 00:37:11.000
<v Speaker 3>once you are that, there's gonna be some of that.

815
00:37:11.280 --> 00:37:13.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Yeah, it takes a while to get that out.

816
00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:15.440
<v Speaker 4>I know you've said that with kind of Joe Boyle

817
00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:17.239
<v Speaker 4>when he would showed a little bit of that last

818
00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:19.880
<v Speaker 4>spring training and then hit of course reverted back and

819
00:37:20.000 --> 00:37:22.239
<v Speaker 4>same this spring training, although it maybe has stuck a

820
00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:24.400
<v Speaker 4>little bit more. But yeah, looking at McGary, I just

821
00:37:24.440 --> 00:37:27.320
<v Speaker 4>pulled up his game logs from last year. Mind you,

822
00:37:27.480 --> 00:37:30.039
<v Speaker 4>he was just a reliever last year. He didn't start

823
00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:33.199
<v Speaker 4>a game, and he's going one at a time, one

824
00:37:33.239 --> 00:37:35.760
<v Speaker 4>inning at a time. I think's got maybe two or

825
00:37:35.880 --> 00:37:39.400
<v Speaker 4>three outings that were two innings, but most of these

826
00:37:39.960 --> 00:37:42.840
<v Speaker 4>in reverse order from September last year. Let me read

827
00:37:42.920 --> 00:37:46.239
<v Speaker 4>you his walk numbers zero innings, three walks, one inning,

828
00:37:46.360 --> 00:37:49.480
<v Speaker 4>one walk, one inning, no walks, point two innings, one walk,

829
00:37:49.519 --> 00:37:52.079
<v Speaker 4>one inning, one walk, two thirds of an inning, two walk,

830
00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:54.599
<v Speaker 4>one inning, one walk, one inning, three walks. Like this

831
00:37:54.719 --> 00:37:56.800
<v Speaker 4>is just the fact that he had a multi inning

832
00:37:56.840 --> 00:38:00.000
<v Speaker 4>outing and you know, started a game, went four innings,

833
00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:03.320
<v Speaker 4>no walks. I didn't watch it, but I think I

834
00:38:03.400 --> 00:38:05.000
<v Speaker 4>might have to go back and watch because that's just

835
00:38:05.000 --> 00:38:07.440
<v Speaker 4>like kind of blew my mind that all of last

836
00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:10.639
<v Speaker 4>year he's a reliever, only no idea where the ball's

837
00:38:10.679 --> 00:38:13.639
<v Speaker 4>going and did I saw this line and I was like,

838
00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:15.920
<v Speaker 4>that can't be the same guy. That's not the Griff

839
00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:17.119
<v Speaker 4>McGary that we know and love.

840
00:38:17.199 --> 00:38:20.239
<v Speaker 3>I'm telling you there's times where, like a few years back,

841
00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:22.760
<v Speaker 3>it was like he was throwing all his offerings in

842
00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:25.199
<v Speaker 3>the same at that and like really putting him where

843
00:38:25.239 --> 00:38:27.480
<v Speaker 3>he wanted. But then it would just go to complete

844
00:38:27.599 --> 00:38:29.840
<v Speaker 3>crap the next hour. And that's why rumor that I

845
00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:32.360
<v Speaker 3>heard about like blisters or whatever kind of checked out

846
00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:35.280
<v Speaker 3>and made some sense. Yeah, he is drastically different from

847
00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:37.320
<v Speaker 3>out in the outing, at least back bending. So yeah,

848
00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:40.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, we'll see, Yeah, some fun ones. It

849
00:38:40.159 --> 00:38:42.360
<v Speaker 3>just kind of popped up like that. That's uh, piques

850
00:38:42.400 --> 00:38:45.159
<v Speaker 3>my interest. Yeah, and I don't know. I watched the

851
00:38:45.400 --> 00:38:47.840
<v Speaker 3>cut up Jose Montero from last night, who was my

852
00:38:48.119 --> 00:38:51.119
<v Speaker 3>reds Arms offseason, Dude, I think you would like that

853
00:38:51.239 --> 00:38:53.559
<v Speaker 3>outing quite a bit, talking about a guy who was

854
00:38:53.679 --> 00:38:57.360
<v Speaker 3>just like dominating, throwing eighty four eighty five, not fast balls,

855
00:38:57.360 --> 00:39:00.639
<v Speaker 3>splitters at that speed, some breaking balls at that fastball

856
00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:03.800
<v Speaker 3>that was like ninety ninety one, ninety two. He can't

857
00:39:03.800 --> 00:39:06.199
<v Speaker 3>get it up there more though we saw that last year.

858
00:39:06.679 --> 00:39:09.400
<v Speaker 3>But just talk about just peppering the bottom of his

859
00:39:09.480 --> 00:39:12.679
<v Speaker 3>own dude, and these guys know that the glitter was come,

860
00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:15.199
<v Speaker 3>had no shot. Yeah, heeded in the ground with I

861
00:39:15.199 --> 00:39:18.039
<v Speaker 3>don't know how exciting Montero is gonna get, but he's

862
00:39:18.119 --> 00:39:20.440
<v Speaker 3>he's one of the more intriguing look for me this

863
00:39:20.840 --> 00:39:21.679
<v Speaker 3>early offseason.

864
00:39:21.719 --> 00:39:22.440
<v Speaker 4>No, that's fun.

865
00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:25.159
<v Speaker 3>And I saw tyrone Yuli, who was my pick from

866
00:39:25.239 --> 00:39:27.840
<v Speaker 3>two years ago, who had Tommy John got hurt. He's

867
00:39:27.840 --> 00:39:30.159
<v Speaker 3>back at Hudson Valley, but it looks like I think

868
00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:33.480
<v Speaker 3>they got him working as like a real reliever, or

869
00:39:33.559 --> 00:39:36.119
<v Speaker 3>maybe it's just maybe it's just short innings as he

870
00:39:36.159 --> 00:39:38.639
<v Speaker 3>gets back into it or whatever. But homeboys like throwing

871
00:39:38.679 --> 00:39:41.119
<v Speaker 3>like ninety eight. Wow, he was like he was like

872
00:39:41.239 --> 00:39:45.000
<v Speaker 3>ninety four before. TJ Curious there I don't know. Of course,

873
00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:47.239
<v Speaker 3>if he's a relief pitcher, that you know, drains a

874
00:39:47.239 --> 00:39:50.639
<v Speaker 3>lot of dynasty value and interest. But it's a lively

875
00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:54.159
<v Speaker 3>arm with I think some good pitchability in there that

876
00:39:54.360 --> 00:39:57.400
<v Speaker 3>really dominated in stretches at high A before he went.

877
00:39:57.440 --> 00:39:58.760
<v Speaker 3>But I guess that would have been way back in

878
00:39:58.760 --> 00:40:00.280
<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty threes.

879
00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:02.119
<v Speaker 4>A lifetime ago in dining world.

880
00:40:02.480 --> 00:40:05.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know, with two years, it's just oh, one

881
00:40:05.360 --> 00:40:07.800
<v Speaker 3>more guy. I wanted to bring up. New guy made

882
00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:11.159
<v Speaker 3>his full season debut, but Way and Lynn.

883
00:40:10.960 --> 00:40:12.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, that one out.

884
00:40:12.840 --> 00:40:15.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, did you take a look at He's Taiwanese.

885
00:40:15.960 --> 00:40:17.880
<v Speaker 4>We love a Taiwanese arm, I know.

886
00:40:18.159 --> 00:40:21.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's a kind of a lanky lefty. Was like

887
00:40:21.400 --> 00:40:23.599
<v Speaker 3>a nice frame. You could see him, you know, adding

888
00:40:23.599 --> 00:40:26.039
<v Speaker 3>some more masks or whatever. But uh, and I think

889
00:40:26.199 --> 00:40:28.599
<v Speaker 3>I think the broadcast said that he had pitched for

890
00:40:29.039 --> 00:40:31.480
<v Speaker 3>their national team in the past, but I didn't know

891
00:40:31.519 --> 00:40:33.920
<v Speaker 3>anything about him. I think he just signed last year.

892
00:40:34.119 --> 00:40:37.280
<v Speaker 3>Good size guys as fastball's probably like it was like

893
00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:39.840
<v Speaker 3>low nineties or something like that. I'd love to know

894
00:40:39.880 --> 00:40:42.320
<v Speaker 3>what his like release point, you know, how a tug

895
00:40:42.320 --> 00:40:45.920
<v Speaker 3>boat has kind of a tugboat's release point. Yeah, I

896
00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:48.599
<v Speaker 3>wonder if Lynn is kind of similar. Okay, but what

897
00:40:48.760 --> 00:40:50.760
<v Speaker 3>he went, I don't have the line up, but you know,

898
00:40:50.800 --> 00:40:53.239
<v Speaker 3>for so kind of maybe a bit of a funky left.

899
00:40:53.239 --> 00:40:56.440
<v Speaker 3>He's got kind of a big swooping slower slurve at

900
00:40:56.480 --> 00:40:59.760
<v Speaker 3>like seventy six or whatever sweeper for to use the

901
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:03.440
<v Speaker 3>contemporary nomenclature, I guess, but I think it was mostly

902
00:41:03.480 --> 00:41:06.599
<v Speaker 3>like fastball and the and the slur but really just

903
00:41:06.719 --> 00:41:09.199
<v Speaker 3>pounded in zone, putting it where he wanted to do

904
00:41:09.519 --> 00:41:11.559
<v Speaker 3>at a pretty high clip. I gut it. I imagine

905
00:41:11.599 --> 00:41:13.599
<v Speaker 3>could probably put up pretty good numbers in a ball

906
00:41:13.679 --> 00:41:16.440
<v Speaker 3>and maybe get just just a new guy, just a

907
00:41:16.480 --> 00:41:19.840
<v Speaker 3>new guy that call my attention well enough to get

908
00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:22.599
<v Speaker 3>into and I think you would enjoy watching him.

909
00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:23.519
<v Speaker 4>Put him on the list.

910
00:41:26.159 --> 00:41:28.639
<v Speaker 3>But how about some bats man talk about the losers?

911
00:41:28.800 --> 00:41:32.320
<v Speaker 4>What I mean, I gotta say, like I haven't watched

912
00:41:32.360 --> 00:41:34.920
<v Speaker 4>too many or the ones that I've watched, I haven't

913
00:41:34.920 --> 00:41:37.119
<v Speaker 4>put too much stock in it. Sure I will say,

914
00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:40.239
<v Speaker 4>like when I sorted one of my minor league leaderboards

915
00:41:40.400 --> 00:41:43.559
<v Speaker 4>about a week into the season, I was quite encouraged

916
00:41:43.639 --> 00:41:46.199
<v Speaker 4>how many b siders were near the top. Like I'm

917
00:41:46.239 --> 00:41:48.280
<v Speaker 4>not kidding like a ton of these guys at the

918
00:41:48.320 --> 00:41:50.800
<v Speaker 4>top of one of my leaderboards. It was like Trenton Brooks,

919
00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:53.960
<v Speaker 4>who was a last year guy for me, Alex Freeland,

920
00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:56.039
<v Speaker 4>who wasn't a b side guy, but we talked about

921
00:41:56.119 --> 00:41:58.679
<v Speaker 4>him a bunch last year, Tim Tawa, we both loved

922
00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:02.440
<v Speaker 4>this year playing a guy from my last year, Gustavo Campero,

923
00:42:02.559 --> 00:42:05.079
<v Speaker 4>guy of mine last year, Darryl Hurnaes one of year

924
00:42:05.119 --> 00:42:08.280
<v Speaker 4>old guys, Porge Barosa, a dude we've talked about before,

925
00:42:08.519 --> 00:42:11.719
<v Speaker 4>Auto Kemp Cody Freeman is off to a nice start,

926
00:42:11.840 --> 00:42:13.519
<v Speaker 4>like he popped on one of my lists that he

927
00:42:13.639 --> 00:42:15.519
<v Speaker 4>got the k right down and hit pretty well. It

928
00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:18.719
<v Speaker 4>was just funny, Like this leaderboard usually is populated with

929
00:42:18.840 --> 00:42:20.920
<v Speaker 4>a mix of you know, really pretty boy guys and

930
00:42:21.199 --> 00:42:23.360
<v Speaker 4>then occasionally one or two, but it was like of

931
00:42:23.400 --> 00:42:26.760
<v Speaker 4>the top twenty or thirty bath it was like ten

932
00:42:26.840 --> 00:42:29.519
<v Speaker 4>or fifteen or one of hower by side guys from

933
00:42:29.559 --> 00:42:32.159
<v Speaker 4>recent memory, And I feel like that doesn't often happen,

934
00:42:32.159 --> 00:42:34.280
<v Speaker 4>that they all get out to a nice start like that.

935
00:42:34.400 --> 00:42:37.760
<v Speaker 4>You know, Capus was up there, Santa Brio was up there, and.

936
00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:40.920
<v Speaker 3>It's just like five fifty or something like that. Isn't he.

937
00:42:41.039 --> 00:42:43.679
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's got a three eighteen WRC plus currently.

938
00:42:43.800 --> 00:42:44.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

939
00:42:44.239 --> 00:42:47.000
<v Speaker 4>I think he did something tonight too, so he's online.

940
00:42:47.079 --> 00:42:49.960
<v Speaker 3>As as the minor league season goes on, there's always

941
00:42:50.039 --> 00:42:52.199
<v Speaker 3>like one bat at a time that I'm like, that's

942
00:42:52.239 --> 00:42:54.159
<v Speaker 3>the first guy that I just like go to check

943
00:42:54.199 --> 00:42:56.159
<v Speaker 3>to see how he did. And obviously that ebbs and

944
00:42:56.199 --> 00:42:58.320
<v Speaker 3>flows and changes throughout the course of the year. But

945
00:42:58.360 --> 00:43:02.440
<v Speaker 3>my first guy this year is my that's B side choice. Eli. Yeah.

946
00:43:02.519 --> 00:43:05.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's talked too, and that was pretty.

947
00:43:04.760 --> 00:43:07.840
<v Speaker 3>Good start and watching like playing some good defense and yeah.

948
00:43:09.199 --> 00:43:09.599
<v Speaker 4>Nice.

949
00:43:09.800 --> 00:43:12.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Like all right, that's not like changing my priors

950
00:43:13.079 --> 00:43:14.880
<v Speaker 3>or anything like that. But the thing is, guys like that,

951
00:43:14.920 --> 00:43:16.920
<v Speaker 3>I didn't have a lot of priors. It was just

952
00:43:16.960 --> 00:43:20.599
<v Speaker 3>a brief prodad. But it's been fun to see him

953
00:43:20.639 --> 00:43:21.719
<v Speaker 3>have some early success.

954
00:43:21.840 --> 00:43:23.599
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, I mean a couple a couple other

955
00:43:23.599 --> 00:43:26.599
<v Speaker 4>guys like my dude from last year, Leo Revos from

956
00:43:26.719 --> 00:43:29.599
<v Speaker 4>the Mariners. He's a big leaguer now, like another B

957
00:43:29.719 --> 00:43:31.880
<v Speaker 4>sider in the BIGS. It took a couple of injuries

958
00:43:31.960 --> 00:43:33.800
<v Speaker 4>and a nice hot start to him, you know, he

959
00:43:33.840 --> 00:43:35.800
<v Speaker 4>had a good first couple of weeks. Who else John

960
00:43:35.880 --> 00:43:38.920
<v Speaker 4>Rave is doing pretty well at Triple A, and I

961
00:43:39.000 --> 00:43:41.519
<v Speaker 4>still think that he might get a shot in Kansas

962
00:43:41.559 --> 00:43:44.119
<v Speaker 4>City just because they've got their outfield is miserable. It's

963
00:43:44.159 --> 00:43:44.639
<v Speaker 4>so bad.

964
00:43:44.840 --> 00:43:47.239
<v Speaker 3>I want crim Man. I just want to see Krim.

965
00:43:47.119 --> 00:43:49.800
<v Speaker 4>I know, playing Krim. Well, we'll get him up there.

966
00:43:49.880 --> 00:43:53.559
<v Speaker 4>He's smashing to start the year too. I know if

967
00:43:53.559 --> 00:43:55.639
<v Speaker 4>he had done this start last year, I think he

968
00:43:55.679 --> 00:43:59.320
<v Speaker 4>would have gotten on a run, mistimed, miss timed. But

969
00:43:59.440 --> 00:44:01.719
<v Speaker 4>it's not like a Berger is looking all that great either,

970
00:44:01.880 --> 00:44:04.239
<v Speaker 4>so maybe they shuffle swiping around and get him.

971
00:44:04.440 --> 00:44:07.079
<v Speaker 3>Doesn't Berger have like a forty home run season and

972
00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:08.280
<v Speaker 3>the digs under his belt?

973
00:44:08.679 --> 00:44:11.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but you know, if he gets hot. Maybe It's

974
00:44:11.800 --> 00:44:14.159
<v Speaker 4>not like Josh Smith has been great either third, So

975
00:44:14.639 --> 00:44:16.760
<v Speaker 4>I don't know. It's it's a tough road to go

976
00:44:17.199 --> 00:44:19.239
<v Speaker 4>as a as a corner guy. I mean that those

977
00:44:19.239 --> 00:44:21.880
<v Speaker 4>first base profiles are tough. Ryan Ritter off to a

978
00:44:21.920 --> 00:44:24.519
<v Speaker 4>good start, Kyle Carros off to a good start.

979
00:44:24.440 --> 00:44:27.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Jeros. So Ben Williamson's been hitting to.

980
00:44:27.199 --> 00:44:30.840
<v Speaker 4>It a right, Yeah he has. I don't know. Hey,

981
00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:33.840
<v Speaker 4>even Victor Lebrona look at him. I had checked in

982
00:44:33.920 --> 00:44:34.280
<v Speaker 4>on him.

983
00:44:34.320 --> 00:44:34.519
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

984
00:44:34.599 --> 00:44:37.920
<v Speaker 4>One seventy three WRC plus I love that guy at

985
00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:38.800
<v Speaker 4>double a man.

986
00:44:39.079 --> 00:44:42.000
<v Speaker 3>Anybody in the bigs like kind of getting your attention.

987
00:44:41.840 --> 00:44:44.320
<v Speaker 4>Well, it wouldn't be a Dynasty dog Got Discord podcast.

988
00:44:44.360 --> 00:44:46.400
<v Speaker 4>I didn't talk about Beef Goodman a little bit, right.

989
00:44:46.599 --> 00:44:49.199
<v Speaker 3>That sucks because Beef has been the funniest guy to

990
00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:49.760
<v Speaker 3>talk about.

991
00:44:50.480 --> 00:44:53.440
<v Speaker 4>I love it. I'm not Yeah, I'm not hayting like

992
00:44:53.559 --> 00:44:57.119
<v Speaker 4>I told you. I was like, I know the real

993
00:44:57.199 --> 00:44:59.039
<v Speaker 4>thing here. It's like, it's funny.

994
00:44:59.480 --> 00:45:01.679
<v Speaker 3>It has been the thing people hear them because he's

995
00:45:01.760 --> 00:45:02.840
<v Speaker 3>talked about them. Yeah.

996
00:45:02.920 --> 00:45:04.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. For for those of you that are missing the

997
00:45:04.880 --> 00:45:07.440
<v Speaker 4>inside joke here, the real ones on the Discord will

998
00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:10.159
<v Speaker 4>know that Beef Goodman has been quite the hot button

999
00:45:10.239 --> 00:45:12.599
<v Speaker 4>topic on multiple occasions.

1000
00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:16.599
<v Speaker 3>It's like, dude has good four games or whatever, Like

1001
00:45:16.679 --> 00:45:19.880
<v Speaker 3>four games later, his numbers are flipped upside down, right,

1002
00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:23.440
<v Speaker 3>Why why are we doing I don't understand. Yeah, yeah,

1003
00:45:23.440 --> 00:45:26.519
<v Speaker 3>but dude, Tyler Sadistrom, dude, like this is just me

1004
00:45:26.679 --> 00:45:29.480
<v Speaker 3>being like a fantasy player. It was like, dude, I

1005
00:45:29.559 --> 00:45:31.320
<v Speaker 3>need this guy's guy. I can do good a couple

1006
00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:33.800
<v Speaker 3>of my teams. That's huge and so far, so good.

1007
00:45:34.199 --> 00:45:36.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean I saw him. I went to opening night,

1008
00:45:36.599 --> 00:45:39.119
<v Speaker 4>dude hit two bombs like he is locked in. He

1009
00:45:39.159 --> 00:45:40.000
<v Speaker 4>looks really.

1010
00:45:39.800 --> 00:45:42.320
<v Speaker 3>Good, always had the juice, was just hitting the ball on.

1011
00:45:42.440 --> 00:45:44.920
<v Speaker 3>But hey, correct me if I'm wrong, Matt. But was

1012
00:45:44.960 --> 00:45:49.159
<v Speaker 3>it I thought Sacramento was like fairly neutral part or

1013
00:45:49.360 --> 00:45:52.199
<v Speaker 3>was that just like neutral for PCL or.

1014
00:45:52.280 --> 00:45:54.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean I think that was the case that

1015
00:45:54.320 --> 00:45:57.960
<v Speaker 4>it was like played relatively neutral for the PCL. But

1016
00:45:58.039 --> 00:46:01.000
<v Speaker 4>there are differences, right, Like it's different quality of player

1017
00:46:01.159 --> 00:46:04.119
<v Speaker 4>playing in that park too, and that impact the level.

1018
00:46:04.360 --> 00:46:07.599
<v Speaker 4>Like now you've got big leaders playing there, So I

1019
00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:09.960
<v Speaker 4>think I saw some hypotheses that it was going to

1020
00:46:10.199 --> 00:46:13.000
<v Speaker 4>raise the level or raise the park factor a bit

1021
00:46:13.079 --> 00:46:14.719
<v Speaker 4>just by having big leaders play there.

1022
00:46:14.840 --> 00:46:18.679
<v Speaker 3>A little park have player factors.

1023
00:46:18.360 --> 00:46:20.039
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, because that's how they build them, right,

1024
00:46:20.079 --> 00:46:22.079
<v Speaker 4>It's like how do the players do at those at

1025
00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:24.599
<v Speaker 4>those parks? The ones that are crazy to me are

1026
00:46:24.880 --> 00:46:28.039
<v Speaker 4>the that the big variation things that you would think

1027
00:46:28.119 --> 00:46:30.840
<v Speaker 4>really are affected by the park, like K rate and

1028
00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:34.840
<v Speaker 4>walk rate, Like now, really does the park affect those things?

1029
00:46:34.840 --> 00:46:37.199
<v Speaker 4>You know what I mean? Like, but there's real effects.

1030
00:46:37.199 --> 00:46:40.280
<v Speaker 4>It's not huge, Like the differently the biggest K park

1031
00:46:40.280 --> 00:46:43.280
<v Speaker 4>in the lowest is not enormous, just outside of the

1032
00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:44.639
<v Speaker 4>crazy ones, what do you think.

1033
00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:47.360
<v Speaker 3>Plays in that like lighting shadows.

1034
00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:52.079
<v Speaker 4>The allegedly yeah shadows, the batter's eye, the lighting, Yeah,

1035
00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:55.199
<v Speaker 4>I think all of it has they hypothesize has something like.

1036
00:46:55.239 --> 00:46:57.639
<v Speaker 4>That's the thing about park factors is they aren't really

1037
00:46:57.679 --> 00:47:00.920
<v Speaker 4>telling you why. Like you know, the park factor for

1038
00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:04.440
<v Speaker 4>Wrigley is has one number, that's the park factor. But

1039
00:47:04.719 --> 00:47:07.079
<v Speaker 4>as you know, as somebody that has spends the time

1040
00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:11.440
<v Speaker 4>in Chicago, like it doesn't really matter, really really matters

1041
00:47:11.480 --> 00:47:13.800
<v Speaker 4>the day that you're there. Is it a warm day

1042
00:47:13.840 --> 00:47:16.280
<v Speaker 4>where the wind is blowing in one direction? Is it

1043
00:47:16.480 --> 00:47:19.000
<v Speaker 4>a freezing cold April day where the wind is blowing

1044
00:47:19.039 --> 00:47:21.400
<v Speaker 4>in off the lake? Like you don't know? And that's

1045
00:47:21.639 --> 00:47:24.639
<v Speaker 4>I think one of the like actual gambling edges that

1046
00:47:24.719 --> 00:47:28.199
<v Speaker 4>people use in dfs and in some betting things is

1047
00:47:28.239 --> 00:47:31.559
<v Speaker 4>they have better weather models than the lines and most

1048
00:47:31.599 --> 00:47:33.679
<v Speaker 4>other betters. And I think that's one of the areas

1049
00:47:33.719 --> 00:47:37.039
<v Speaker 4>where people make better than the veig is in those

1050
00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:40.400
<v Speaker 4>kinds of edges where the park factor is a super

1051
00:47:40.440 --> 00:47:42.960
<v Speaker 4>complicated thing that gets distilled down to one number, but

1052
00:47:43.039 --> 00:47:48.039
<v Speaker 4>it's actually quite dynamic and hard to internalize that. But yeah,

1053
00:47:48.079 --> 00:47:51.320
<v Speaker 4>the ones that's like have wildly different strikeout rates. It's like,

1054
00:47:51.519 --> 00:47:54.400
<v Speaker 4>that's really weird. Like the you know, safe cos or

1055
00:47:54.440 --> 00:47:56.800
<v Speaker 4>t Mobile Park and in Seattle is one that's like

1056
00:47:56.840 --> 00:47:58.760
<v Speaker 4>that has the highest strike out rate in the league.

1057
00:47:58.760 --> 00:48:00.800
<v Speaker 4>And there was that article this off season about how

1058
00:48:00.920 --> 00:48:03.760
<v Speaker 4>it was the most extreme park in the major leagues

1059
00:48:03.960 --> 00:48:07.280
<v Speaker 4>Coors included. But then the other direction and that effect

1060
00:48:07.320 --> 00:48:08.039
<v Speaker 4>seems to be real.

1061
00:48:08.159 --> 00:48:09.400
<v Speaker 3>Make any trades yet, I'm.

1062
00:48:09.239 --> 00:48:14.239
<v Speaker 4>Always making trades, mostly little ones so far, like relievers.

1063
00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:17.840
<v Speaker 4>I said yes to another thirty teamer that was like, free,

1064
00:48:17.880 --> 00:48:19.920
<v Speaker 4>pick up this team and you know, run it because

1065
00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:21.800
<v Speaker 4>it was the Braves. And of course the Braves have

1066
00:48:21.840 --> 00:48:24.400
<v Speaker 4>been the worst offense in baseball so far, and my

1067
00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:27.400
<v Speaker 4>team is like all these Braves. So I got smoked

1068
00:48:27.559 --> 00:48:30.079
<v Speaker 4>Week one. But yeah, I've made a couple of tinkery

1069
00:48:30.199 --> 00:48:33.320
<v Speaker 4>type trades, and I mostly have done a pretty good job,

1070
00:48:33.320 --> 00:48:35.320
<v Speaker 4>I think, either sticking to my guns or picking up

1071
00:48:35.519 --> 00:48:38.199
<v Speaker 4>a couple of prospects here and there, guys that I like.

1072
00:48:38.440 --> 00:48:41.000
<v Speaker 4>So we'll see. It's early, but it's always nice when

1073
00:48:41.159 --> 00:48:43.639
<v Speaker 4>someone in your diynasty league reaches out. It's like, hey,

1074
00:48:43.800 --> 00:48:45.760
<v Speaker 4>can I get that guy. That's a guy that you've

1075
00:48:45.800 --> 00:48:47.960
<v Speaker 4>had for six months and all of a sudden, now

1076
00:48:48.000 --> 00:48:50.760
<v Speaker 4>they're getting a bunch of interests. That's always but it

1077
00:48:50.880 --> 00:48:54.039
<v Speaker 4>actually has happened twice literally while we've been on this podcast.

1078
00:48:54.119 --> 00:48:57.440
<v Speaker 4>I've gotten dms from league mates about different prospects, and

1079
00:48:57.480 --> 00:48:59.719
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, yeah, we can talk about that guy, because

1080
00:48:59.760 --> 00:49:02.519
<v Speaker 4>I'm I'm always down to trade my prospects to prove

1081
00:49:02.559 --> 00:49:02.960
<v Speaker 4>my team.

1082
00:49:03.000 --> 00:49:06.719
<v Speaker 3>What you got any plans for Saturday for Ryan's Doowe's

1083
00:49:06.800 --> 00:49:07.920
<v Speaker 3>first MLB starting.

1084
00:49:08.039 --> 00:49:10.760
<v Speaker 4>I actually don't think I have any plans on Saturday.

1085
00:49:10.800 --> 00:49:12.760
<v Speaker 4>But Sunday is a busy day for us. I'm sure

1086
00:49:12.760 --> 00:49:15.239
<v Speaker 4>we'll be cleaning. But cleaning around this house is great.

1087
00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:17.599
<v Speaker 4>We're putting the kids to work so like they they're

1088
00:49:17.679 --> 00:49:19.880
<v Speaker 4>learning how to clean from a young age. But it's

1089
00:49:19.880 --> 00:49:22.360
<v Speaker 4>also a time when we could put on like records

1090
00:49:22.360 --> 00:49:24.920
<v Speaker 4>and have the music bumping, and then usually put on

1091
00:49:25.039 --> 00:49:27.079
<v Speaker 4>some baseball in the background. I've been watching quite a

1092
00:49:27.119 --> 00:49:29.519
<v Speaker 4>bit of college baseball lately. That's been fun. I was

1093
00:49:29.559 --> 00:49:32.119
<v Speaker 4>telling you that, you know, with my buddy Connor, who's

1094
00:49:32.159 --> 00:49:34.599
<v Speaker 4>been on the pod getting the call up to the

1095
00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:38.199
<v Speaker 4>Big Ten, it's been fun to follow them and follow.

1096
00:49:38.000 --> 00:49:40.159
<v Speaker 3>A little more of Big Ten.

1097
00:49:40.800 --> 00:49:43.360
<v Speaker 4>Dude, the conference alignment stuff, I've put it out of

1098
00:49:43.400 --> 00:49:46.800
<v Speaker 4>my mind because it's so different to how things were

1099
00:49:46.840 --> 00:49:49.360
<v Speaker 4>when I last cared about college you know, really cared

1100
00:49:49.360 --> 00:49:51.440
<v Speaker 4>about college sports when I was playing. And yeah, so

1101
00:49:51.679 --> 00:49:53.719
<v Speaker 4>I can't even really think about it. Like they were

1102
00:49:53.719 --> 00:49:56.920
<v Speaker 4>playing Rutgers at Rutgers, and it's like, guys, those are

1103
00:49:57.039 --> 00:50:00.519
<v Speaker 4>literally on opposite ends of the country. They're in the

1104
00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:04.880
<v Speaker 4>same conferences, and you do the same conference. They're Seattle.

1105
00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:07.440
<v Speaker 3>Time never reminds me. I was going to ask you

1106
00:50:07.480 --> 00:50:10.320
<v Speaker 3>this earlier when you were playing. I'm going to assume

1107
00:50:10.360 --> 00:50:13.800
<v Speaker 3>here correctly if I'm wrong, But you had like off seasons, right,

1108
00:50:14.000 --> 00:50:18.440
<v Speaker 3>and I mean so that's what yeah, really and whatever, Okay,

1109
00:50:19.519 --> 00:50:21.400
<v Speaker 3>let me be better phrase. Did you have did you

1110
00:50:21.440 --> 00:50:24.760
<v Speaker 3>have like periods where you were like sort of thinking

1111
00:50:24.800 --> 00:50:27.960
<v Speaker 3>about all right, looking at last year, this is what happened,

1112
00:50:28.119 --> 00:50:30.239
<v Speaker 3>looking forward to this year, how can I do better?

1113
00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:33.480
<v Speaker 3>And implementing some ideas things change? For me?

1114
00:50:33.639 --> 00:50:37.360
<v Speaker 4>That was yeah, that was the fall, like fall for

1115
00:50:37.519 --> 00:50:41.000
<v Speaker 4>us was you know, the college rules have always been like,

1116
00:50:41.039 --> 00:50:43.320
<v Speaker 4>you know, trying to be protective of players and not

1117
00:50:43.480 --> 00:50:45.840
<v Speaker 4>have overbearing coaches. So there's like limits on the amount

1118
00:50:45.880 --> 00:50:48.280
<v Speaker 4>of coaching that they can do. And but we had

1119
00:50:48.320 --> 00:50:51.079
<v Speaker 4>access to our facilities all the time, so there was

1120
00:50:51.199 --> 00:50:55.440
<v Speaker 4>never really any significant downtime. The most would be like

1121
00:50:55.719 --> 00:50:57.880
<v Speaker 4>right at the start of the year. We would come

1122
00:50:57.920 --> 00:50:59.599
<v Speaker 4>back and it be a lot more about like this,

1123
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:02.039
<v Speaker 4>At least on our team. A lot of people would

1124
00:51:02.039 --> 00:51:04.559
<v Speaker 4>play at summer ball and get fat and out of shape,

1125
00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:07.320
<v Speaker 4>like they wouldn't work out anymore, and so the first

1126
00:51:07.400 --> 00:51:09.920
<v Speaker 4>like month almost of coming back was like getting your

1127
00:51:10.000 --> 00:51:12.679
<v Speaker 4>cardio back and building up any muscle that you've lost,

1128
00:51:12.679 --> 00:51:15.159
<v Speaker 4>because you know, we would play one hundred and play

1129
00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:17.360
<v Speaker 4>usually one hundred and twenty one hundred and thirty games

1130
00:51:17.400 --> 00:51:19.840
<v Speaker 4>a year, and that's like games, not on top of

1131
00:51:19.880 --> 00:51:24.639
<v Speaker 4>the practices that for us went from like January to August,

1132
00:51:25.159 --> 00:51:27.880
<v Speaker 4>maybe even early September. Yeah, that was our that was

1133
00:51:27.880 --> 00:51:30.360
<v Speaker 4>our season. And then you come back and like September

1134
00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:33.000
<v Speaker 4>was get back shape, you know, start classes and all

1135
00:51:33.000 --> 00:51:35.440
<v Speaker 4>of that and have like more one on one time

1136
00:51:35.480 --> 00:51:37.679
<v Speaker 4>with coaches and that might be where they would start

1137
00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:41.639
<v Speaker 4>implementing new things. And then we'd have fall practices which

1138
00:51:41.639 --> 00:51:44.360
<v Speaker 4>were longer and you know, maybe you were implementing doing

1139
00:51:44.360 --> 00:51:46.159
<v Speaker 4>stuff there, and then I guess it was really like

1140
00:51:46.320 --> 00:51:49.440
<v Speaker 4>after our fall practice and ended that was usually when

1141
00:51:49.559 --> 00:51:52.119
<v Speaker 4>you had the most time to like work on your

1142
00:51:52.159 --> 00:51:54.800
<v Speaker 4>swing or like you're implementing a change you've been trying

1143
00:51:54.800 --> 00:51:57.440
<v Speaker 4>out in the cages, and I think some of our

1144
00:51:57.480 --> 00:52:00.000
<v Speaker 4>guys like would ramp up their bullpen. And winter break

1145
00:52:00.159 --> 00:52:02.559
<v Speaker 4>was always like for our pictures, especially because when we

1146
00:52:02.599 --> 00:52:04.960
<v Speaker 4>got back to school after winter break, it was a

1147
00:52:05.039 --> 00:52:06.880
<v Speaker 4>month when the season started, so they had to like

1148
00:52:07.000 --> 00:52:08.719
<v Speaker 4>hit the ground running. So I know that for them

1149
00:52:08.840 --> 00:52:10.400
<v Speaker 4>and for us too. I mean it was hard to

1150
00:52:10.519 --> 00:52:13.639
<v Speaker 4>get good hitting practice going back home for Christmas, but

1151
00:52:13.679 --> 00:52:16.119
<v Speaker 4>that was really it. I would say, like fall season

1152
00:52:16.360 --> 00:52:18.280
<v Speaker 4>was when you might try some things and you know,

1153
00:52:18.360 --> 00:52:20.159
<v Speaker 4>like no shade on my coach, But most of them

1154
00:52:20.239 --> 00:52:23.079
<v Speaker 4>weren't really all about like the mechanics or we're going

1155
00:52:23.159 --> 00:52:25.320
<v Speaker 4>to do a swing change, or we're working on our

1156
00:52:25.360 --> 00:52:28.639
<v Speaker 4>pitch shapes or experimenting in that way. Some guys would

1157
00:52:28.679 --> 00:52:30.639
<v Speaker 4>do that on their own, but mostly it was getting

1158
00:52:30.639 --> 00:52:32.039
<v Speaker 4>reps and then they were just like a bunch of

1159
00:52:32.079 --> 00:52:35.440
<v Speaker 4>fens work or whatever. But I think that now that's

1160
00:52:35.519 --> 00:52:38.000
<v Speaker 4>like the prime time is falls when.

1161
00:52:38.679 --> 00:52:40.599
<v Speaker 3>Good Okay, tell me if you think I'm off basy

1162
00:52:40.719 --> 00:52:44.239
<v Speaker 3>right my observations of human behavior baseball. I think it

1163
00:52:44.239 --> 00:52:46.360
<v Speaker 3>can be tricky. I think it could be hard. I

1164
00:52:46.360 --> 00:52:49.239
<v Speaker 3>think it could perhaps go against us that like you know, Okay,

1165
00:52:49.280 --> 00:52:51.199
<v Speaker 3>we go into the off season, we get these new

1166
00:52:51.199 --> 00:52:54.119
<v Speaker 3>ideas or maybe these new techniques. We come out, we

1167
00:52:54.239 --> 00:52:56.800
<v Speaker 3>try them, we're doing them for a while, and then

1168
00:52:56.920 --> 00:52:59.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, by the time we get to July, what

1169
00:52:59.599 --> 00:53:02.079
<v Speaker 3>have you those things have kind of been forgotten. We're

1170
00:53:02.119 --> 00:53:03.440
<v Speaker 3>not used right, Like.

1171
00:53:03.519 --> 00:53:07.039
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, only some of that, like where you had a thing,

1172
00:53:07.119 --> 00:53:09.480
<v Speaker 4>you were trying it and then like it didn't work

1173
00:53:09.519 --> 00:53:11.639
<v Speaker 4>one day and you reverted back and stayed on the

1174
00:53:11.719 --> 00:53:14.039
<v Speaker 4>old thing. And I'll say this, we used to make

1175
00:53:14.199 --> 00:53:16.880
<v Speaker 4>like I was always you know, I was never great college.

1176
00:53:17.000 --> 00:53:19.360
<v Speaker 4>I was really good in my last couple of years,

1177
00:53:19.400 --> 00:53:22.559
<v Speaker 4>but not great. And so that meant I was always worked,

1178
00:53:22.599 --> 00:53:25.199
<v Speaker 4>always like hinkering switching things around like I did every

1179
00:53:25.199 --> 00:53:28.119
<v Speaker 4>from big leg kick to like standing straight up, different

1180
00:53:28.159 --> 00:53:30.880
<v Speaker 4>hand positions, like I was always tinkering, right, And you

1181
00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:34.239
<v Speaker 4>would do things that you thought were huge change, like oh,

1182
00:53:34.280 --> 00:53:37.440
<v Speaker 4>I'm really pointing the bat because that's helping me with handload.

1183
00:53:37.519 --> 00:53:39.320
<v Speaker 4>And now it's going to be so different, And you

1184
00:53:39.360 --> 00:53:42.599
<v Speaker 4>could put the video up of like this massive change

1185
00:53:42.599 --> 00:53:45.239
<v Speaker 4>that you made, and you're swinging from a week before

1186
00:53:45.280 --> 00:53:47.840
<v Speaker 4>when you were doing kind of the baseline barely. This

1187
00:53:48.159 --> 00:53:51.039
<v Speaker 4>like the change that feels huge to you. You're like,

1188
00:53:51.119 --> 00:53:54.280
<v Speaker 4>I've made this huge, dynamic change. I'm a totally different guy.

1189
00:53:54.320 --> 00:53:56.239
<v Speaker 4>I'm up there and you actually put the video up

1190
00:53:56.360 --> 00:53:58.760
<v Speaker 4>and the change is pretty subtle. You can see it,

1191
00:53:58.840 --> 00:54:01.280
<v Speaker 4>but it's subtle. And I think that that plays into

1192
00:54:01.320 --> 00:54:03.760
<v Speaker 4>it too, where you might feel that you've made a

1193
00:54:03.800 --> 00:54:06.519
<v Speaker 4>giant pain and some of it might be really different,

1194
00:54:06.639 --> 00:54:10.440
<v Speaker 4>but it's hard to see that because it's it actually

1195
00:54:10.559 --> 00:54:12.840
<v Speaker 4>ends up being a pretty subtle change and difficult to

1196
00:54:12.920 --> 00:54:15.480
<v Speaker 4>view from the outside. That's my That has been my experience,

1197
00:54:15.480 --> 00:54:17.719
<v Speaker 4>and I would say it's been my experience with tennis too, Like,

1198
00:54:17.800 --> 00:54:19.280
<v Speaker 4>you know, same kind of thing. You just you think

1199
00:54:19.320 --> 00:54:20.679
<v Speaker 4>you're making a big change, but it's not.

1200
00:54:20.800 --> 00:54:23.320
<v Speaker 3>Because we like to talk about, you know, guys off

1201
00:54:23.320 --> 00:54:25.320
<v Speaker 3>to a fast start or what have you. It's like, well,

1202
00:54:25.360 --> 00:54:28.880
<v Speaker 3>there's going to be regression to the mean, right regression,

1203
00:54:29.199 --> 00:54:32.320
<v Speaker 3>He's not gonna he's never had a three fifty OBP.

1204
00:54:32.440 --> 00:54:34.880
<v Speaker 3>He's always been three hundred. Like it'll come back down, right.

1205
00:54:35.039 --> 00:54:38.039
<v Speaker 3>That sort of thing, which is just thinking about numbers, right,

1206
00:54:38.199 --> 00:54:41.320
<v Speaker 3>probability statistics, but like I'm starting to think about more.

1207
00:54:41.519 --> 00:54:43.480
<v Speaker 3>You know, man, maybe it's because I've been watching some

1208
00:54:43.519 --> 00:54:45.440
<v Speaker 3>of these players coming up and now they're in the

1209
00:54:45.440 --> 00:54:47.880
<v Speaker 3>big whatever. But like I think there's also just like

1210
00:54:47.920 --> 00:54:51.639
<v Speaker 3>a regression to us in our habits. And Mike said,

1211
00:54:51.679 --> 00:54:54.880
<v Speaker 3>because like not making this about Covar, but it's just

1212
00:54:54.920 --> 00:54:58.199
<v Speaker 3>that I'm watching it. Like he definitely isn't chasing the

1213
00:54:58.280 --> 00:55:01.599
<v Speaker 3>slider as much has been a he is taking first

1214
00:55:01.639 --> 00:55:05.079
<v Speaker 3>pitches like often. But to me, it's like and however

1215
00:55:05.119 --> 00:55:07.480
<v Speaker 3>that affects the stats or whatever, that's not my point here.

1216
00:55:07.519 --> 00:55:10.239
<v Speaker 3>It's like, all right, buddy, let's see if you're doing

1217
00:55:10.280 --> 00:55:13.079
<v Speaker 3>this in July or June or whatever. Right, does that

1218
00:55:13.159 --> 00:55:16.079
<v Speaker 3>make sense? Like my point here, like, yeah, I think

1219
00:55:16.119 --> 00:55:19.079
<v Speaker 3>early on you could see some guys making some changes,

1220
00:55:19.440 --> 00:55:21.480
<v Speaker 3>but it's like how sticky, how disciplined are they going

1221
00:55:21.519 --> 00:55:23.119
<v Speaker 3>to do with im to stand a lot?

1222
00:55:23.559 --> 00:55:26.239
<v Speaker 4>Oh for for sure. And I this might have been

1223
00:55:26.280 --> 00:55:29.079
<v Speaker 4>on rates and barrels with Ino Sarah's David Ripper the

1224
00:55:29.119 --> 00:55:31.440
<v Speaker 4>other day, but I think they were talking about this too,

1225
00:55:31.639 --> 00:55:35.559
<v Speaker 4>about like the arm angle positioning, and that's the thing

1226
00:55:35.599 --> 00:55:37.840
<v Speaker 4>that like you see guys drop down start to start

1227
00:55:37.880 --> 00:55:39.920
<v Speaker 4>and maybe that's a signal of injury. Maybe it's a

1228
00:55:39.960 --> 00:55:43.400
<v Speaker 4>signal of I'm trying something new or or vice versa.

1229
00:55:43.440 --> 00:55:45.679
<v Speaker 4>Maybe they're raising their arm angle to get something different,

1230
00:55:45.760 --> 00:55:47.960
<v Speaker 4>like I think that that that can be a signal

1231
00:55:48.000 --> 00:55:50.480
<v Speaker 4>of something, but it also could be just a regression

1232
00:55:50.559 --> 00:55:53.039
<v Speaker 4>back to like something that maybe was their arm angle

1233
00:55:53.079 --> 00:55:55.079
<v Speaker 4>in the past or or something like that. I think

1234
00:55:55.079 --> 00:55:57.280
<v Speaker 4>the one that was interesting too, that was a fairly

1235
00:55:57.320 --> 00:56:01.039
<v Speaker 4>recent revelation was the where people stand in the battle effectively.

1236
00:56:01.079 --> 00:56:03.559
<v Speaker 4>Wild had a bit on this a couple of weeks ago,

1237
00:56:03.679 --> 00:56:06.719
<v Speaker 4>I think, where they showed that some people really do

1238
00:56:06.920 --> 00:56:10.119
<v Speaker 4>tinker and move their position in the box from up

1239
00:56:10.159 --> 00:56:12.079
<v Speaker 4>near the front to all the way in the back.

1240
00:56:12.119 --> 00:56:15.480
<v Speaker 3>I just kind of assumed everybody puts their back foot

1241
00:56:15.559 --> 00:56:18.280
<v Speaker 3>on the back line now because most people does.

1242
00:56:18.480 --> 00:56:21.039
<v Speaker 4>Most people do, but not everybody. And even like the

1243
00:56:21.119 --> 00:56:24.280
<v Speaker 4>position the X access away from the plate too, is

1244
00:56:24.360 --> 00:56:26.760
<v Speaker 4>some people stand a lot farther away from the plate

1245
00:56:26.800 --> 00:56:29.159
<v Speaker 4>that way, some people stand closer, and some people change

1246
00:56:29.159 --> 00:56:32.159
<v Speaker 4>how far away that is. So I think that there

1247
00:56:32.400 --> 00:56:34.480
<v Speaker 4>is still tinkering that goes on there, and that's something

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00:56:34.480 --> 00:56:37.360
<v Speaker 4>that like isn't necessarily a regression right like that can

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00:56:37.440 --> 00:56:40.559
<v Speaker 4>physically place yourself, place that back foot wherever you want

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<v Speaker 4>in the box, and that's where you're going to load from.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's interesting to see that guys definitely tweak that

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00:56:45.280 --> 00:56:47.000
<v Speaker 4>they do still for the most part, sit at the

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<v Speaker 4>very back of the box. But it's funny too because

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00:56:49.760 --> 00:56:52.840
<v Speaker 4>it's not that much more time, like and are you

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00:56:52.880 --> 00:56:54.960
<v Speaker 4>giving up something on the front end, Like maybe I

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00:56:55.000 --> 00:56:58.199
<v Speaker 4>don't know that. The research was generally like, yes, being

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00:56:58.280 --> 00:57:00.519
<v Speaker 4>farther back in the box seems to help, but it

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00:57:00.559 --> 00:57:03.400
<v Speaker 4>doesn't seem like it helps uniformly. It's not for everybody

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00:57:03.440 --> 00:57:05.960
<v Speaker 4>getting that extra split second, extra frame or two. So

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00:57:06.320 --> 00:57:09.760
<v Speaker 4>interesting new data that I'm sure people will continue to analyze.

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<v Speaker 4>But another place that we can actively see people experiment

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00:57:12.719 --> 00:57:15.599
<v Speaker 4>change move back, change move back. Yeah, it's it's one

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00:57:15.599 --> 00:57:17.519
<v Speaker 4>of those weird tweets that you're never going to solve it,

1264
00:57:17.559 --> 00:57:18.519
<v Speaker 4>but you can keep trying.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't play any sort of high level of baseball,

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00:57:21.519 --> 00:57:23.280
<v Speaker 3>but like in high schools, like, oh, guy's got like

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00:57:23.320 --> 00:57:26.280
<v Speaker 3>a good curveball, like moving up. Yeah, I don't ever

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<v Speaker 3>see it. Do any hitters move up to the front

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<v Speaker 3>of the box.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think by like per hit but some guys

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<v Speaker 4>like I was saying, they have adjusted up to them

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00:57:34.599 --> 00:57:39.360
<v Speaker 4>like forward in the box or moved around in another direction. Again,

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00:57:39.480 --> 00:57:42.800
<v Speaker 4>generally it's moving farther back, but not uniformly.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, Oh, Matt, I was gonna say, I

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<v Speaker 3>think your B side Iraqi's B side on This year

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00:57:48.360 --> 00:57:50.760
<v Speaker 3>may have had the outing of the year so far

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00:57:50.880 --> 00:57:56.039
<v Speaker 3>for pitcher Blake Adams nice five almost perfect innings, eleven strikeouts.

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00:57:56.119 --> 00:57:58.039
<v Speaker 3>I think no walk or maybe one walk or something

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<v Speaker 3>like that. I didn't I turned it on briefly. I

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<v Speaker 3>did not watch very much, but that shout off to

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<v Speaker 3>a good start.

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00:58:03.800 --> 00:58:06.679
<v Speaker 4>Jack Chot too, he had a really good first start.

1283
00:58:08.159 --> 00:58:10.280
<v Speaker 4>These are the guys I wasn't even that excited about

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00:58:11.800 --> 00:58:12.760
<v Speaker 4>far down the list.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes we'll see, we'll see.

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<v Speaker 4>All of that sticks. Oh and Eric Wagerman, he was

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<v Speaker 4>one of my guys. He made the BIGS. I picked

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00:58:21.360 --> 00:58:27.360
<v Speaker 4>him for the Angels DFA. He's a big leiguer. Now

1289
00:58:27.400 --> 00:58:29.920
<v Speaker 4>who's getting some kids? Is playing time with the you know.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the words done anything? Is he know?

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<v Speaker 4>He's been I think forgettable and he isn't playing a

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<v Speaker 4>ton I don't think. But I was pumped. I was

1293
00:58:38.559 --> 00:58:40.480
<v Speaker 4>pumped and he got picked up, and then like he's

1294
00:58:40.480 --> 00:58:42.360
<v Speaker 4>actually getting a little bit of runs. Not it's not

1295
00:58:42.440 --> 00:58:45.639
<v Speaker 4>going right for him, but you know, still something.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, well, man, unless there's anything else, should we wrap

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<v Speaker 3>it up?

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<v Speaker 4>That's wrap it up. Good, good chatting and lots and

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<v Speaker 4>lots of fun stuff. It does feel a bit like

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00:58:52.800 --> 00:58:55.079
<v Speaker 4>the fire hose this early in the season, especially when

1301
00:58:55.119 --> 00:58:56.920
<v Speaker 4>all the full season ball kicks off like it did

1302
00:58:57.000 --> 00:58:59.760
<v Speaker 4>this week and there's something everywhere. Oh, I did have

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00:58:59.800 --> 00:59:02.400
<v Speaker 4>one more, one more shout when we were talking about

1304
00:59:02.400 --> 00:59:04.760
<v Speaker 4>like that. This is one that popped up in my

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00:59:04.920 --> 00:59:08.039
<v Speaker 4>off season research and like, he's somebody that I might

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00:59:08.159 --> 00:59:11.320
<v Speaker 4>write up. I hope that he keeps doing well because

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00:59:11.440 --> 00:59:13.519
<v Speaker 4>you know me and I love a good story, and

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00:59:13.719 --> 00:59:16.880
<v Speaker 4>this guy might have one of the best stories in

1309
00:59:17.280 --> 00:59:21.599
<v Speaker 4>the minor leagues. Got drafted in twenty and seventeen. So

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<v Speaker 4>this guy, he's like not across nobody as far as

1311
00:59:25.400 --> 00:59:28.519
<v Speaker 4>I can tell. He doesn't have a profile on Baseball America,

1312
00:59:28.840 --> 00:59:32.840
<v Speaker 4>Baseball Spectus, He's got a pretty sparse fangrafts page, and

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00:59:32.880 --> 00:59:35.199
<v Speaker 4>I found a couple of stories written about him throughout

1314
00:59:35.239 --> 00:59:37.840
<v Speaker 4>the years. But so he was originally drafted at twenty seventeen,

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<v Speaker 4>didn't sign by the Guardians, didn't sign, tried to go

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<v Speaker 4>to college, no college would take him, ended up playing

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<v Speaker 4>like Naia for a bit. And I'm forgetting some of

1318
00:59:48.440 --> 00:59:51.000
<v Speaker 4>the details, but like I think was out of baseball,

1319
00:59:51.199 --> 00:59:53.400
<v Speaker 4>but his coach just loved him so much and like

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00:59:53.519 --> 00:59:57.159
<v Speaker 4>roped him back in. He signs as an undrafted free

1321
00:59:57.199 --> 01:00:00.800
<v Speaker 4>agent in July of twenty three, which was like a

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01:00:00.960 --> 01:00:03.719
<v Speaker 4>year after he was done in college, if I'm remembering

1323
01:00:03.760 --> 01:00:06.679
<v Speaker 4>the timeline right, So he'd been like out of organized basically.

1324
01:00:06.760 --> 01:00:08.599
<v Speaker 4>Maybe he went to indie ball, maybe he was playing

1325
01:00:08.639 --> 01:00:11.320
<v Speaker 4>like some college summer ball or something. But he gets signed,

1326
01:00:11.440 --> 01:00:15.719
<v Speaker 4>and since he's been signed, he has been like, honestly

1327
01:00:16.119 --> 01:00:20.079
<v Speaker 4>pretty incredible and wild stat line like the guy. His

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<v Speaker 4>lowest WRC plus in any level so far is one

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01:00:24.360 --> 01:00:26.960
<v Speaker 4>fifty four, and that was a pretty small sample in

1330
01:00:27.079 --> 01:00:30.920
<v Speaker 4>a ball last year. His overall sample or two years

1331
01:00:30.960 --> 01:00:33.400
<v Speaker 4>ago in twenty twenty three, right after signed, His overall

1332
01:00:33.599 --> 01:00:37.119
<v Speaker 4>WRC plus in the minors is like two eighteen. So

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<v Speaker 4>he has just murdered every level that he's been at,

1334
01:00:40.360 --> 01:00:43.000
<v Speaker 4>but it has come with like pretty high strikeout rates.

1335
01:00:43.000 --> 01:00:45.920
<v Speaker 4>He's also so old, he's twenty six and he's in

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01:00:46.039 --> 01:00:48.679
<v Speaker 4>High A still, so like that's why he's not a prospect.

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<v Speaker 3>But I just love those guys.

1338
01:00:50.719 --> 01:00:52.880
<v Speaker 4>I mean yeah, yeah, Like as twenty six in high

1339
01:00:53.000 --> 01:00:55.320
<v Speaker 4>of course he should be crushing. But he's off to

1340
01:00:55.559 --> 01:00:59.159
<v Speaker 4>another hot start this year to eighteen w plus so

1341
01:00:59.239 --> 01:01:02.559
<v Speaker 4>far this year. His name is Cole Turney. I'm telling you,

1342
01:01:02.679 --> 01:01:04.920
<v Speaker 4>nobody is talking about this guy, and I'm sure for

1343
01:01:05.039 --> 01:01:07.079
<v Speaker 4>good reason. Like I thought maybe they'd start him at

1344
01:01:07.119 --> 01:01:08.960
<v Speaker 4>Double A this year, but they put him back at

1345
01:01:09.039 --> 01:01:11.880
<v Speaker 4>High A, which he crushed for a one seventy three

1346
01:01:11.920 --> 01:01:14.440
<v Speaker 4>WRC plus last year. But he keeps getting hurt.

1347
01:01:14.519 --> 01:01:15.119
<v Speaker 3>He got hurt.

1348
01:01:15.159 --> 01:01:16.880
<v Speaker 4>I was so pumped when I found him in one

1349
01:01:16.880 --> 01:01:18.679
<v Speaker 4>of my things. I went and watched like all of

1350
01:01:18.719 --> 01:01:21.719
<v Speaker 4>his stuff. He swings and missus all the time. He

1351
01:01:22.159 --> 01:01:24.480
<v Speaker 4>walks a lot, but still ran like a twenty nine

1352
01:01:24.480 --> 01:01:26.840
<v Speaker 4>percent strikeout rate in Hi A last year at like

1353
01:01:26.880 --> 01:01:29.559
<v Speaker 4>twenty nine percent. I think even hired this struck out

1354
01:01:29.559 --> 01:01:33.119
<v Speaker 4>a couple times today against tug Boat Wilkinson. So like, again,

1355
01:01:33.280 --> 01:01:36.000
<v Speaker 4>he's not a real prospect, but he is a guy

1356
01:01:36.000 --> 01:01:38.679
<v Speaker 4>that I am like so rooting for him to make

1357
01:01:38.760 --> 01:01:42.000
<v Speaker 4>it because this is like nobody wanted guy. I looked

1358
01:01:42.000 --> 01:01:44.880
<v Speaker 4>this up. His college numbers were insane. His like Juco

1359
01:01:45.039 --> 01:01:48.480
<v Speaker 4>or Nia numbers were absolutely mantrous. So the guy everywhere

1360
01:01:48.480 --> 01:01:51.000
<v Speaker 4>he's been has just murdered the baseball. I think he

1361
01:01:51.039 --> 01:01:53.880
<v Speaker 4>plays outfield mostly, but I think he's played on first

1362
01:01:53.880 --> 01:01:55.360
<v Speaker 4>base too, so he's like a little bit of a

1363
01:01:55.440 --> 01:01:58.880
<v Speaker 4>multi positional type guy. But I am rooting for Cole Tourney.

1364
01:01:59.119 --> 01:02:01.960
<v Speaker 4>So hard to says like, I have never heard anybody

1365
01:02:02.079 --> 01:02:04.639
<v Speaker 4>talk about him in any way. The dude does nothing

1366
01:02:04.679 --> 01:02:08.159
<v Speaker 4>but crush the ball, and in a super fun way,

1367
01:02:08.400 --> 01:02:10.519
<v Speaker 4>just like he's gonna get his hack off and try

1368
01:02:10.559 --> 01:02:12.719
<v Speaker 4>and make it work and he'll he'll punch out, but

1369
01:02:12.880 --> 01:02:16.039
<v Speaker 4>he walks some and he's got some speed. You know,

1370
01:02:16.400 --> 01:02:18.800
<v Speaker 4>I want him to put a full season together here. Fun,

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01:02:18.880 --> 01:02:19.679
<v Speaker 4>he is so fun.

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01:02:19.800 --> 01:02:22.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm well, I wanted to mention too, like mi ILB

1373
01:02:22.559 --> 01:02:25.960
<v Speaker 3>dot TV right now, dude, I mean, this happens every year.

1374
01:02:26.159 --> 01:02:28.199
<v Speaker 3>In the beginning, I hope it doesn't stick, but there's

1375
01:02:28.239 --> 01:02:31.480
<v Speaker 3>been so many outings that like not the usual center

1376
01:02:31.519 --> 01:02:34.880
<v Speaker 3>field camera that we get right, or just not even broadcast.

1377
01:02:35.239 --> 01:02:37.840
<v Speaker 3>They broadcast for games, but it's just like somebody forgot

1378
01:02:37.880 --> 01:02:41.039
<v Speaker 3>to hit record. So yeah, we'llways forget how frustrating that is.

1379
01:02:41.159 --> 01:02:43.639
<v Speaker 3>Big end of the year, that is, that's happening for sure,

1380
01:02:43.679 --> 01:02:46.199
<v Speaker 3>but should only be down now to two teams that

1381
01:02:46.239 --> 01:02:51.159
<v Speaker 3>don't Jupiter No, not on beach and ash Wow. Yeah,

1382
01:02:51.280 --> 01:02:53.119
<v Speaker 3>I mean considering where that was, like I don't know,

1383
01:02:53.239 --> 01:02:57.119
<v Speaker 3>six years ago or whatever, like this huge improvement. But AnyWho,

1384
01:02:57.199 --> 01:02:59.239
<v Speaker 3>we should probably wrap this up. If you want to

1385
01:02:59.440 --> 01:03:02.239
<v Speaker 3>check out of the videos that some of the guys

1386
01:03:02.280 --> 01:03:04.000
<v Speaker 3>I was talking about, you can go to Muddy loooks

1387
01:03:04.039 --> 01:03:07.079
<v Speaker 3>dot com. You can follow me on Twitter at muddy Looks.

1388
01:03:07.079 --> 01:03:09.199
<v Speaker 3>I changed it, changed up my handle there and I.

1389
01:03:09.239 --> 01:03:11.920
<v Speaker 4>Gotta we gotta get your se o up because I

1390
01:03:12.400 --> 01:03:15.000
<v Speaker 4>googled muddy Looks the other day when you're posting about it,

1391
01:03:15.079 --> 01:03:17.199
<v Speaker 4>I didn't have a link, candy, and it is not

1392
01:03:17.400 --> 01:03:18.760
<v Speaker 4>anywhere on Google.

1393
01:03:18.920 --> 01:03:20.800
<v Speaker 3>I don't even know what that means is.

1394
01:03:21.440 --> 01:03:22.320
<v Speaker 4>We'll work on that.

1395
01:03:23.039 --> 01:03:25.639
<v Speaker 3>And I'm on Blue Sky too at muddy stole the same.

1396
01:03:25.760 --> 01:03:27.800
<v Speaker 3>But uh yeah, Matt, good to talk to you. Let's

1397
01:03:27.800 --> 01:03:30.840
<v Speaker 3>get some of these uh these plate appearances up hitters

1398
01:03:30.880 --> 01:03:33.000
<v Speaker 3>here instead of getting into this guys.

1399
01:03:32.679 --> 01:03:33.360
<v Speaker 4>Let's do it.

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01:03:33.639 --> 01:03:36.159
<v Speaker 3>Uh you well and we will talk to you next time.

1401
01:03:36.320 --> 01:03:36.800
<v Speaker 2>Bye bye.

1402
01:03:37.039 --> 01:03:42.239
<v Speaker 1>Miles an hour riding to his head. He hopped down

1403
01:03:42.480 --> 01:03:47.960
<v Speaker 1>first with the lumpbonius face, and on the very next

1404
01:03:48.079 --> 01:03:51.400
<v Speaker 1>pitch he up and stole second face.

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01:03:53.360 --> 01:04:01.480
<v Speaker 2>With gretest speed. He wasn't born. He had the dirty

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01:04:01.599 --> 01:04:03.639
<v Speaker 2>Yes uniform
