Speaker 1: Ninety five miles an hour riding to his head. You
Speaker 1: have him down first with the lumpbonius face, and on
Speaker 1: the very next pitch he up and stole second face.
Speaker 2: With greatst be he wasn't born, he had.
Speaker 3: Yes, unifor welcome to the prospect. Besides podcast, this is
Speaker 3: episode Rex.
Speaker 4: Brother Oh, I like that one. That's a good one.
Speaker 3: I just really just liked the name. You know, who
Speaker 3: doesn't love some obscure what ten War relief pitcher from
Speaker 3: the Rockies or something. I don't even know. I wasn't
Speaker 3: like a Rockies fan at that point, so I don't
Speaker 3: really know if Rex Brothers had so he had to
Speaker 3: have had a couple of decent years for them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I think he did. He was like a
Speaker 4: leverage reliever at the back end of the pen for
Speaker 4: a bit, and I think had a couple of decent seasons.
Speaker 4: If I remember.
Speaker 3: Right, that's episode forty nine that you haven't tuned in.
Speaker 3: Joined Matt and I. That's Matt Rooke on the other microphone.
Speaker 3: What is Rook twenty twenty five? Right?
Speaker 4: Yeah, because we're in the twenty twenty five season. Finally,
Speaker 4: the Braves number forty nine that popped to my was
Speaker 4: John Rocker, and I guess the less set about him
Speaker 4: the better, But that was, you know peak my fandom
Speaker 4: era late nineties, John Rocker at number forty nine.
Speaker 3: Bernie John Rocker is something.
Speaker 4: He was something, you know, something that's true.
Speaker 3: But if you haven't joined us before, this is a
Speaker 3: Dynasty Baseball podcast about Oh Matt, what do we do?
Speaker 3: I guess we got to do homework and share some
Speaker 3: opinions and views on probably less popular baseball prospects.
Speaker 4: Nate does that, he does homework and watches video. I
Speaker 4: just talk about my shots in the dark that turned
Speaker 4: out to be good picks and crap on Nate's picks,
Speaker 4: and talks mack about everybody else except my guys that
Speaker 4: are doing well. So that's that's what I do. And
Speaker 4: I don't know if I bring a whole lot to
Speaker 4: the table other than that, but I'm a pretty face
Speaker 4: on on radio here, So let's let's dive in and
Speaker 4: talk about all my awesome b siders.
Speaker 3: We did well. I don't know. We did about six
Speaker 3: or seven episodes this offseason that as many as I
Speaker 3: had wanted to. But we are back. It's good to
Speaker 3: talk to you, good.
Speaker 4: To see you YouTube, buddy.
Speaker 3: The season is upon us all levels of minor leagues. Well,
Speaker 3: I guess you know. Rookie ball is going, but we
Speaker 3: don't watch that anyways because we can't. But we can't
Speaker 3: major leagues. Well, we're what about a dozen games in
Speaker 3: every team?
Speaker 4: Is about a dozen games now going well for any
Speaker 4: of our teams?
Speaker 3: Really, Hey, Matt, you know the best you can do
Speaker 3: is win today, right?
Speaker 4: My teams couldn't even do that one of my times.
Speaker 3: Did so I'm just not going to let you, you know,
Speaker 3: poop on my parade here for my one day parade.
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's true. Our major league teams are are
Speaker 3: not doing well. I don't know, Matt. We haven't been
Speaker 3: doing podcasts, but I have been busy working on a website,
Speaker 3: Muddy loooks dot com. I'm trying to have some fun
Speaker 3: with that and put up a lot of video and
Speaker 3: share some opinions. So I have not been lazy. I
Speaker 3: have not been lacking on baseball inputs here. I just
Speaker 3: haven't been haven't been talking in a microphone with it.
Speaker 3: So I'm glad to do that tonight.
Speaker 4: Me Noo, I've missed that. We've had a couple of
Speaker 4: near misses where where you thought the nights were gonna
Speaker 4: line up and they haven't. So I'm glad that tonight
Speaker 4: worked out.
Speaker 3: I am not a website builder, so I am hacking
Speaker 3: this altogether best that I can. But I don't know, Matt,
Speaker 3: what do you think any takeaways? There's a lot of
Speaker 3: opinions that come about in the first couple of weeks
Speaker 3: of season. I don't want to talk about stats tonight, Matt,
Speaker 3: or very little, like they don't mean much to me
Speaker 3: right now, and throwing out somebody's ops after ten games
Speaker 3: just doesn't seem like fruitful endeavor to me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and people get so sucked into it, right like
Speaker 4: that first hot week. It's so seductive. You think somebody's
Speaker 4: unlocked something, and because occasionally it does portend some difference
Speaker 4: and a guy has unlocked a new talent level or
Speaker 4: you think they're actualizing what was in there all along.
Speaker 4: But I was talking to our friend Connor, who we've
Speaker 4: had on the pod, pitching coach at University of Washington,
Speaker 4: and we were talking about how he attacks hitters, what
Speaker 4: his plan is, and he was mentioning that you know,
Speaker 4: he'll look to the tendencies of a hitter you know,
Speaker 4: what's their swing rate average? How do they do against
Speaker 4: certain pitches? And you know, I was like that, you know,
Speaker 4: that might be helpful, there might be some signal in there,
Speaker 4: but the sample sizes are still so small, even in
Speaker 4: college and they've played another, you know, fifteen to twenty
Speaker 4: game for the pros so far, it's still such small samples.
Speaker 4: And especially if you're talking about a guy that's maybe
Speaker 4: seen ten change ups all year, and you're like, oh,
Speaker 4: he does great against changeups. So I'm going to shy
Speaker 4: away from that. Even though my guy has a good
Speaker 4: change up, I don't know if I do that. And
Speaker 4: I was saying that, you know, in my own analysis,
Speaker 4: I would look at that and say, like, it hasn't
Speaker 4: changed my mind very much yet. I'm still probably going
Speaker 4: by my evaluation from the off season. It's going to
Speaker 4: be a while. And I know that sometimes I miss
Speaker 4: out on those kind of guys that have unlocked something new.
Speaker 4: I think I'm just more of a conservative player, and
Speaker 4: I just think that my eyes over a super short
Speaker 4: sample are going to lie to me and I'll get
Speaker 4: sucked in and make a bad choice, and I should
Speaker 4: have just stuck with the guy that I thought was
Speaker 4: going to be better. So that's I mean for me,
Speaker 4: like a lot of this is early season panic and showcase.
Speaker 4: I mostly stay out of it. You know, I'll maybe
Speaker 4: try and pick up a guy or two, And I
Speaker 4: think I did that some success last year with a
Speaker 4: couple of pitchers that showed out really well early on
Speaker 4: because probably we hadn't seen them before. You know, I'm
Speaker 4: thinking last year for me, it was like Classen and
Speaker 4: Jaden Ham, you know, guys that you'd like maybe identified as, hey,
Speaker 4: we've gotten a little look at this, it seems interesting.
Speaker 4: And then they came out the gates and showed something
Speaker 4: really good. But that again was informed by something before that.
Speaker 4: But like I don't know, a guy like kyn Paris
Speaker 4: bigs for the Angels, like, yeah, he's doing some things differently,
Speaker 4: hitting the ball in the air more went to the
Speaker 4: swing change guy for Aaron Judges hitting coach. But is
Speaker 4: he different? I mean, is that gonna sustain? Certainly not
Speaker 4: at this pace, So I don't know. I'm I think
Speaker 4: more conservative than many on this breakout guys and don't
Speaker 4: really jump too too fast onto the rocket ships.
Speaker 3: I think some of that stuff is probably like league
Speaker 3: and format dependent as well too, Like if you're I
Speaker 3: don't know, if you're in the NFBC and you're trying
Speaker 3: to win like an overall or something like that, that
Speaker 3: very much is like a waiver wire game. I think
Speaker 3: I'm not an expert de format, but sort of being
Speaker 3: on top of and utilizing the flavors of the week,
Speaker 3: so to speak, I think is a big part of
Speaker 3: winning those kinds of things. But you know, I'm more
Speaker 3: of a dynasty like the long game, so I'm kind
Speaker 3: of talking about stuff that I don't really about right now.
Speaker 4: But yeah, and even in the dynasty realm, Like maybe
Speaker 4: it's your one of your teenage guys that's you're getting
Speaker 4: to look at the first time starts looking pretty good,
Speaker 4: or a guy that you were fringy on you're like,
Speaker 4: but you thought was something interesting maybe that tips it
Speaker 4: over the edge, you know, or an st Martinez Junior.
Speaker 4: It's one of those guys I think that you were
Speaker 4: really excited about, but I don't think you were like
Speaker 4: rushing out to roster him this offseason, right Like we
Speaker 4: had a couple of fypds and you didn't draft him
Speaker 4: in those, and then he shows out for a couple
Speaker 4: of weeks and be like, Okay, maybe there is something here,
Speaker 4: and then you make a move. And I feel like
Speaker 4: that's what a lot of our off season prep has done, is,
Speaker 4: you know, we've gotten lists of guys, We've dove in
Speaker 4: on a lot of interesting names, and then when we
Speaker 4: see a little bit of signal that maybe confirms some
Speaker 4: of our suspicions, that might make me more inclined to
Speaker 4: buy someone's hot week or two. But even then I'm
Speaker 4: still trying not to be wedded to that because it
Speaker 4: still can hide flaws and maybe this is just a
Speaker 4: hot streak, and I want to believe it because I
Speaker 4: thought I saw something there before and could totally turn
Speaker 4: into a pumpkin.
Speaker 3: Part, you know, yeah, you know, And I like to
Speaker 3: think that a lot of our podcast here and the
Speaker 3: content that I like to do isn't like it's more
Speaker 3: about just like information gathering and bringing about some awareness
Speaker 3: on you know, Ryan Bowlzer, who might not have any
Speaker 3: track record in full season, and what have you saw
Speaker 3: that if names pop up, like we know some stuff
Speaker 3: about it. If you listen to this show, you might
Speaker 3: know be educated, might be a little bit quicker to
Speaker 3: the draw there. But AnyWho I've been sort of focusing
Speaker 3: that what I like to do early in the season
Speaker 3: is I mean, I think hitting is a bit tough
Speaker 3: for the stuff that I like to do because there's
Speaker 3: so little sample size. Right, make a video of a hitter.
Speaker 3: I want like a hundred plate appearances or something like that, Right,
Speaker 3: really get a meaty idea of, you know, the guy's game.
Speaker 3: I'm really into like new pictures hitting the full season
Speaker 3: guys I've never really seen before, maybe some clips from
Speaker 3: the Complex or a little bit in college or what
Speaker 3: have So. I've really just been trying to compare last
Speaker 3: year's list of all the pictures who had a full
Speaker 3: season outing, and this year is which one isn't on
Speaker 3: last year's less than I trying to take a peek.
Speaker 3: Do you hate pictures? So I'm not sure if you've
Speaker 3: been focusing on that side of things too much.
Speaker 4: I also hate pictures because they're so easy, you know,
Speaker 4: Like you watch one outing and it's like a week
Speaker 4: and a half of a hitter, you know, in terms
Speaker 4: of the plate appearances and the units, like just seeing
Speaker 4: pitches is going to be a week and a half,
Speaker 4: maybe two weeks before a hitter gets one hundred swings
Speaker 4: off it. You can see one hundred pitches right in
Speaker 4: a night from a pitcher, So in that case, so're
Speaker 4: just easy to see those changes and it takes a
Speaker 4: little while for the hitting change come through. I don't
Speaker 4: know who's potre for you early about some of these
Speaker 4: early looks at a pitcher.
Speaker 3: I mentioned them already, so maybe Brian Ballzer I'll talk
Speaker 3: about real quickly here. I knew nothing about Matt and
Speaker 3: then somebody in the discord, my guy Jay was like, like, hey,
Speaker 3: who do you guys want a video of or something?
Speaker 3: And he threw his name out, So thanks for that, Jay.
Speaker 3: But yeah, the Padres signed Ballser from Japan, so he
Speaker 3: was an international free agent, but he's like Japanese American
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three. And then he made his full season
Speaker 3: debut last Saturday. Fifty one pitches, fifty nine percent strikes,
Speaker 3: just three innings. I turned them on and cut them
Speaker 3: up a little bit and tried to do some like
Speaker 3: some other research. There wasn't much out there that I
Speaker 3: could find. Some rumblings that he has touched one hundred
Speaker 3: miles per hour with the fastball before I think this
Speaker 3: outing it was more like I think the top was
Speaker 3: top end of veloscity. He was like ninety six. There
Speaker 3: were some moments where things were, you know, a little rocket,
Speaker 3: he's only like twenty years old. But then there were
Speaker 3: some moments that I thought it really kind of impressed.
Speaker 3: He's got kind of a classic You could tell that
Speaker 3: he's a Japanese pitcher or an Asian pitcher right with
Speaker 3: his operation, the little wad kick in the way that
Speaker 3: he balances on his back foot for a second, through
Speaker 3: change up, through some breaking balls. Rancho's broadcast you can't
Speaker 3: really get all the catcher signs. There's no you know,
Speaker 3: stack cast stuff, so you're really just sleuthing trying to
Speaker 3: look at some grips, trying to figure out some offerings
Speaker 3: and stuff like stuff like that. I think there might
Speaker 3: be some like natural cut to his fastball, but again
Speaker 3: hard to say for sure, or there's like a completely
Speaker 3: separate cutter. I think there was two breaking balls. It
Speaker 3: might have just been one. You know how that story
Speaker 3: goes with these guys in the Lowers, Yep, that Dodgers.
Speaker 3: That Rancho lineup, dude, is like for an a ball team.
Speaker 3: There's like a bit of a murderer's row there top
Speaker 3: like five that lineup is really good and it's.
Speaker 4: Gonna be some good players in that lineup.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean he was he was giving those
Speaker 3: guys fits. So yeah, I don't know, just a guy
Speaker 3: that you know, one look, not going to have like
Speaker 3: a huge opinion on him, but like I think, definitely
Speaker 3: an arm with with some tentral here. And you know,
Speaker 3: if he's if he's throwing ninety six ninety seven, he's
Speaker 3: twenty years old and he's putting up gaudy lions and
Speaker 3: the lowers, like, you've got to imagine that's probably going
Speaker 3: to get some dynasty attention. At least that's how it
Speaker 3: seems to go, or at least guys that are on
Speaker 3: the East Coast like this, that's how it's emed. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm definitely gonna pull up another one of his starts
Speaker 3: and take a look. I like it. I like it
Speaker 3: that outing too. He was going against a bit of
Speaker 3: an older guy. I think he was a draftee from
Speaker 3: last year. But Aiden Fuller, I think it's how you
Speaker 3: say f O E L L E R. Who is
Speaker 3: the Dodgers. I think eleventh round pick from last year,
Speaker 3: bigger guy would seem to have a real lively fastball.
Speaker 3: He threw seventy four percent of his seventy three pitches
Speaker 3: for strikes. From Southern Illinois, he looked interesting in me too, Like,
Speaker 3: I don't know, I haven't heard much about toler if.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you have, but those I have not. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but again that that like eleventh round pick is always interested.
Speaker 3: That the first pick of the third day I feel
Speaker 3: like has produced some at least interesting pitching prospects. Sure,
Speaker 3: I don't know about so much about eleventh rownd. Daddy
Speaker 3: had a firm slider cutter mixing kind of a I
Speaker 3: want to say, like lower. You know, maybe it's just
Speaker 3: because he's a taller guy, but the release point like
Speaker 3: looks interesting to me. Wonder what the data is on that.
Speaker 3: But you know, these guys that throw these sort of
Speaker 3: hard fastballs, these hard sliders seem to be in vogue
Speaker 3: and had a lot of success. I feel like if
Speaker 3: Fuller is pitching like he was this outing, I don't
Speaker 3: think he's going to be very long.
Speaker 4: Just looking him up. Yeah, I don't have a lot
Speaker 4: to add on these A ball guys. I haven't gotten
Speaker 4: much eyes on some of the lowers other than the
Speaker 4: highlight here or there. I think for me, most of
Speaker 4: the guys that I've watched have been some of the
Speaker 4: ones that are knocking on the door, some of our
Speaker 4: old favorites, and Zebbie Matthews and Logan Henderson. But I'm
Speaker 4: pretty sure that David Festa got the call over Zebbie
Speaker 4: Matthews for the open Pablo Lopez spot for the twin,
Speaker 4: which is a bummer, just because I like Zebbi in
Speaker 4: a vacuum and Zebbie's down there pumping ninety nine and
Speaker 4: not walking anybody again, and that seems like it's going
Speaker 4: to be a fun George Kirbesque upside kind of pitcher.
Speaker 4: It could be pretty good. But I'm curious if you've
Speaker 4: watched much of the Double A or Triple A guys, Nate,
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, it's kinds of it. I kind
Speaker 4: of passed on like that. I thought maybe they're cooked.
Speaker 3: JT.
Speaker 4: Ginn's really good in the early going. I wondered if
Speaker 4: you saw anything new there. Jansen Junk, who has been
Speaker 4: kicking around a couple of my thirty teamers on kind
Speaker 4: of that those fringy teams that need an extra arm,
Speaker 4: and he's often available on the wire and he's looked
Speaker 4: pretty good in the early going. You know, I think
Speaker 4: those kinds of guys end up being really interesting in
Speaker 4: deeper dynasty leagues. Is maybe maybe they did figure something
Speaker 4: out in their late twenties and there's something there. But
Speaker 4: have you watched any guys in that realm or that class.
Speaker 3: Definitely, definitely, I mean especially the first week of MiLB
Speaker 3: season was just Triple A, so I was just watching
Speaker 3: Triple A. But I mean, maybe not quite the type
Speaker 3: that you're referring to here, but I did cut up
Speaker 3: and get into Lewinder Avila. Oh yeah, yeah, very much.
Speaker 3: Was this kind of like a whole hum guy coming
Speaker 3: up in my opinion, like definitely aware of him. Definitely
Speaker 3: guy that looked into when we did some of our
Speaker 3: B side stuff. He never really never really caught my
Speaker 3: attention too much. I mean, the k rates have always
Speaker 3: been pretty pedestrian walk rates I don't think have been
Speaker 3: real great either or or pedestrian. But I think he
Speaker 3: looks a little bit different now in Triple A. I
Speaker 3: think the I think the arsenal has got a bit
Speaker 3: to maybe significantly more juicy, jumping.
Speaker 4: Up yesterday fifteen point six percent swinging strike rate in
Speaker 4: triple A after he hasn't been that high since the
Speaker 4: Complex in twenty twenty one, like that, and a tiny
Speaker 4: sample with that, so yeah, that's impressive.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's on. He was added to their forty
Speaker 3: man this offseason. It's like usually when teams do that,
Speaker 3: they have a pretty good reason. He kind of impressed me.
Speaker 3: I watched. I think it was just like the first
Speaker 3: day of the season. So I watched some Carlos Duran
Speaker 3: who put up this crazy good line with Oklahoma City.
Speaker 3: I would didn't come away like super super impressed with him,
Speaker 3: just more of a thrower, you know. It was very
Speaker 3: like I was like focused in watching like his front
Speaker 3: foot for a while and it was like very intent.
Speaker 3: But he had a good outing and then he ended
Speaker 3: up getting traded to the As. Yeah, like I think
Speaker 3: like the next day or something.
Speaker 4: But he's another those throwing, hard throwing cats.
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. I watched it where it's going
Speaker 3: big big body, you know, big guy. I watched some
Speaker 3: cad Horton, you know, as somebody who has a cad
Speaker 3: Horton share the outing. I watched on April his April
Speaker 3: third outing. I was pretty as a Dynasty owner. The
Speaker 3: velocity of the fastball seems back to where it was. Granted,
Speaker 3: I mean it was a short out. I don't remember
Speaker 3: when he went three innings or something like that. So
Speaker 3: we got to see how it kind of holds. But
Speaker 3: made me feel good that that Cad Horton from my
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three is still out there. So that was encouraging.
Speaker 3: We Ell said, I watched triple your boy Mason Barnett.
Speaker 3: I turned him on, but he had a pretty rough outing.
Speaker 3: Not that I'm taking too much away from that, but
Speaker 3: I think his chance pretty close with A's. Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: a little bit of aj blue ball. I don't think
Speaker 3: really much has changed my opinion there. You know, I
Speaker 3: think his chance is coming pretty quick too. You know,
Speaker 3: I think he's he's got a good fast I think
Speaker 3: he's got some good stuff, but like you know, with
Speaker 3: Darnie or anyone, it's about execution with him. For me,
Speaker 3: I watched some Logan Evans watched good looks.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, it's looked inconsistent so far.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I had a really good outing last night,
Speaker 3: but I didn't turn that one on. I watched the
Speaker 3: outing that it wasn't real great. I don't really remember,
Speaker 3: or strike myself as much much of a scholar of
Speaker 3: his arsenal pitch usage from last year. But as far
Speaker 3: as that, that didn't seem too different to me. I just,
Speaker 3: you know, I just don't think he was making very
Speaker 3: good pitches and executing them very well. It's not the
Speaker 3: most shocking turn of events for someone's first start of
Speaker 3: the season, especially in the minors. You know, I turned
Speaker 3: on our guy Yober a little bit. Again. I don't
Speaker 3: think really much has changed there, you know, I think
Speaker 3: he's got plenty of good stuff. It's going to be
Speaker 3: about executing Mars and Seymour. Have you watched krsteymore much
Speaker 3: in the past or.
Speaker 4: In the past, Yeah, Yeah, I've watched a decent bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean he just has like a just super
Speaker 3: wicked two steamer right or sinker or whatever. I think
Speaker 3: it grades out really well. I mean, I think he's
Speaker 3: been allauded for that for quite some time, and I
Speaker 3: was kind of interesting. I think I actually took a
Speaker 3: share of him in a draft heading into twenty twenty four,
Speaker 3: and last year just did not really work out. But
Speaker 3: I'm curious to see if she's going to get a
Speaker 3: shot relatively soon. Your boy Logan Henderson, watch some of him.
Speaker 3: I know he's got what he just got passed over.
Speaker 3: They traded for Priester Patrick, your other guy. Patrick's up
Speaker 3: there and doing his thing, you know. But Henderson, I
Speaker 3: just keep wondering, is it like just cause like the
Speaker 3: breaking ball game is still just like I don't know.
Speaker 4: He looked good in one of the starts that I watched.
Speaker 4: I think one of the starts he was a little
Speaker 4: bit kind of a shaky command, walked a couple more
Speaker 4: than he usually does. But the next start out, I
Speaker 4: thought he looked great and changeup was incredible, fastball was incredible,
Speaker 4: looked like he was still working on the slider. It
Speaker 4: wasn't great, but it is a different look, a bridge
Speaker 4: look in between those pitches and something news to keep
Speaker 4: Righty's honest, but I just think his fastball and changeup
Speaker 4: are so good that he's going to get Brighty's out too.
Speaker 4: It is interesting saying that they have passed him over
Speaker 4: a couple of times, both in the off season and
Speaker 4: now when they've had openings for the Brewer crew. I'm
Speaker 4: really wondering why I think there's room for Patrick and
Speaker 4: Henderson and ac Hunt and held Mizerowski if they want
Speaker 4: to try that game sooner rather than later. Just the
Speaker 4: Brewers seem like they're they're looking for what's going to
Speaker 4: fit in that rotation, and I think Henderson's probably my
Speaker 4: pick of that group. Patrick's looked okay and brought his
Speaker 4: kind of three fastball look to the the bigs, and
Speaker 4: that's fun to see, fun to see that it's mostly working.
Speaker 4: I thought his first outing, I think it was he
Speaker 4: looked pretty good. Maybe a little bit shakier in the second,
Speaker 4: but I still am a real big believer in henderson
Speaker 4: breaking ball shape game.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I watched a couple couple pretty boys Matt
Speaker 3: that I have to say, I am not as big
Speaker 3: of a fan of as everybody else or a lot
Speaker 3: of other people in Bubba Chandler and Chase Petty. I
Speaker 3: have not really ever gotten the Chase Petty love. Like
Speaker 3: there's got to be some you know, data that I'm
Speaker 3: not privy too, but I see, like, really favorable grades
Speaker 3: get put on Chase Petty's fastball ever since he got drafted,
Speaker 3: and I'm sorry, I think his fastball game is very
Speaker 3: still part So I'm not a big fan of him.
Speaker 3: Bubba Chandler obviously super talented. There's some wicked stuff, but
Speaker 3: just the inability to like put a breaking ball where
Speaker 3: you want to just really keeps him out of the
Speaker 3: elite tier. For me, Matt, I might very well look
Speaker 3: like an idiot when he comes up and does some
Speaker 3: spencer strider s stuff or something, but I'm willing to
Speaker 3: bet that that does happen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I kind of agree with you. I do think
Speaker 4: the fastball looks pretty good. You know, it's got good
Speaker 4: shape and velocity, and he for the most part attacks
Speaker 4: it that pretty well. But I in my looks at
Speaker 4: him too, I've seen that breaker be a bit all
Speaker 4: over the place, and you know, I just don't like that.
Speaker 3: I don't like That's like if that's the penultimate starting
Speaker 3: pitching prospect right now, Like I can't I can't go that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I don't know when you get to that
Speaker 4: like tippy top here where you're talking. This is a
Speaker 4: top five arm minor leagues.
Speaker 3: I mean for some he's number one, Matt.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And even if he's just in that top five, personally,
Speaker 4: I like to see a combination of workhorse like has
Speaker 4: he put up innings And I think that he checks
Speaker 4: that box pretty comfortably for me, so like I like that. Unlike,
Speaker 4: you know, maybe job was a little bit undercooked in
Speaker 4: that realm Mizerowski for sure, some of those other guys
Speaker 4: that kind of get bumped up there, like Chandler at
Speaker 4: least has put a hefty amount of innings up, so like,
Speaker 4: I think he can handle a big league starters workload.
Speaker 4: But the other thing that I like to see before
Speaker 4: I actually get excited about a Dynasty pitcher is is
Speaker 4: he actually dominating and has Bobba Chandler really ever done that?
Speaker 4: Like his run at the end of the year last
Speaker 4: year up to Triple A was pretty darn good, you know,
Speaker 4: punching out thirty four percent of batters walking nine point
Speaker 4: four that's a really good k misbb at the uppers.
Speaker 4: But it also came with a slightly depressed babbit, a
Speaker 4: little bit of left on base luck, you know, eighty
Speaker 4: two percent left on base kept that era really low,
Speaker 4: and to me it hid just a little bit of
Speaker 4: Like I think some of the luck metrics are all
Speaker 4: tilted in his direction in this, which happens sometimes, but
Speaker 4: all three of his babbitb his homewer or flyball rate,
Speaker 4: and is left on base rate, which are super random
Speaker 4: your rear, there's no correlation to like, this is not
Speaker 4: a repeatable skill for the most part, and his were
Speaker 4: all super favorable and he still wasn't like really really dominant.
Speaker 4: I still like him because of the workhorse concerns, like
Speaker 4: that he has put up innings and has mostly succeeded,
Speaker 4: and I kind of like, for me visually, he's a
Speaker 4: guy that I think is going to figure out the command.
Speaker 4: Like his delivery looks relatively repeatable to me, so I
Speaker 4: think that he's still you know, a dynasty arm that
Speaker 4: is a pretty boy that I think is gonna figure
Speaker 4: it out. But I kind of think that he's going
Speaker 4: to struggle when he gets like I think he's going
Speaker 4: to be one of these guys that gets up to
Speaker 4: the big realizes his fastball is good rather than great,
Speaker 4: and when he has trouble locating his off speed pitches,
Speaker 4: that's I think going to compound this situation and that
Speaker 4: pretty homer and a fly ball rate that's like sitting
Speaker 4: down in the low single digits is going to be
Speaker 4: you know, mid teens, and it's going to be a
Speaker 4: different proposition, so to me, like Chandler doesn't look like
Speaker 4: a guy that I think he's going to come up
Speaker 4: and dominate right away. And I don't know if there
Speaker 4: are many arms like that in the miners, to be honest,
Speaker 4: Like there's just there's a little knit to pick with
Speaker 4: all of those guys top end.
Speaker 3: I'm just waiting for Painter, I know.
Speaker 4: But the knit with him is it's going to be
Speaker 4: like two frigging years since he's went five innings or something,
Speaker 4: three years maybe since he went five innings.
Speaker 3: I think he has a lot of meat left on
Speaker 3: his career's bone here, Oh for sure, for sure.
Speaker 4: But how much are we going to see this year?
Speaker 4: How long does it take? I was listening to the
Speaker 4: Roundtable on the Athletic Do you know that that podcast?
Speaker 3: That's a couple of.
Speaker 4: A couple of beat writers, one from LA one for
Speaker 4: San Francisco, and then Sam Miller, who's my favorite baseball writer,
Speaker 4: the three of them Mondays and Fridays.
Speaker 3: I'm familiar with him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so great crew. They're all super smart, really funny,
Speaker 4: like they just vibe with me super well. But they're
Speaker 4: always so interesting because they'll each have a question or
Speaker 4: a take that really makes me think about things. Differently,
Speaker 4: And I can't remember what it was Grant Brisbee or Andy
Speaker 4: McCullough that wrote. Maybe it was Grant, I can't remember.
Speaker 4: One of them wrote this article for The Athletic about aces,
Speaker 4: So who's an ace? And they surveyed all these people
Speaker 4: in the front offices and publish it. And it's like,
Speaker 4: you know, as you would expect, a listing of the
Speaker 4: best pictures in baseball, but they had a whole ranking
Speaker 4: system and grading system for if this many people said
Speaker 4: they're an ACE, they're a tippy top tier ace. If
Speaker 4: some people said they're in the conversation, maybe they're a
Speaker 4: mid tier like maybe an ace, maybe a number two,
Speaker 4: you know that kind of thing. So they've got this
Speaker 4: like ranking system that they use. But in listening to
Speaker 4: their own definition of who's an ACE and who's the
Speaker 4: best picture in baseball, the criteria were really interesting, and
Speaker 4: one of them was have you done it before? So
Speaker 4: if it's your first year and you're showing out, you
Speaker 4: can't be the best picture in baseball. So like schmes By,
Speaker 4: this definition can't be the best picture in baseball because
Speaker 4: he did it one year. Can he back it up
Speaker 4: or is he going to go the way of Matt
Speaker 4: Harpt and decline after two years of good performance and
Speaker 4: then some injury decline, it takes a little longer to
Speaker 4: kind of earn that crown. And I feel that way
Speaker 4: about pictures in the minor league too, the guys that
Speaker 4: come out of nowhere and they're really dominant for four innings,
Speaker 4: three innings at a time. That gets my attention, like
Speaker 4: I'm interested, but it's hard for that to earn that
Speaker 4: thoroughbred racehorse. You know. We've joked about this with Caden
Speaker 4: Dana over the last year, that he's a guy who
Speaker 4: was putting up a lot of inning and getting really
Speaker 4: solid results, especially for his age as he rose through
Speaker 4: the miners last year. I had concerns about him for
Speaker 4: other reasons, but that like level of can you put
Speaker 4: the innings on your arm and your body and build
Speaker 4: that resume out It matters quite a bit to me.
Speaker 4: And when you're looking at like who are these dynasty
Speaker 4: arms that I really want to go to bat for
Speaker 4: and I want a roster And it was just interesting
Speaker 4: hearing them apply a similar kind of framework to who
Speaker 4: are the best pictures in in baseball? Like Strider, he's
Speaker 4: one that might have been in the conversation before his
Speaker 4: surgery last year, and his sure looks like the best
Speaker 4: picture in the minor leagues right now, But he's got
Speaker 4: to get back to the major leagues, show that he's
Speaker 4: healthy this year, and then repeat it next year for
Speaker 4: him to kind of be in that best picture in
Speaker 4: baseball conversation, Like according to Grant, Well.
Speaker 3: You know, there's I mean, there's also been plenty of
Speaker 3: pitchers who loved the lat of innings dominated in the
Speaker 3: minor proved themselves that extent, and then are horrible in
Speaker 3: the mage, right, And I think just at the end
Speaker 3: of the day, you're never going to know until you
Speaker 3: get the major league test where you get a lineup
Speaker 3: that you cannot fuck around. You have to be on
Speaker 3: your game here. You can get away with a bad
Speaker 3: pitch here and there, of course, but like you don't
Speaker 3: get the same sort of breaks that you do even
Speaker 3: some of the best triple A line right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we've seen this over and over again.
Speaker 4: Like a couple of guys who just popped in mind
Speaker 4: for me, Max Meyer and Ryan Weathers. Weathers was one
Speaker 4: of the worst starting pitchers when he came up in
Speaker 4: San Diego. Like he I think he had a decent
Speaker 4: first outing, but then was like terrible walking everybody wasn't
Speaker 4: striking anybody out. He wasn't good for multiple years and
Speaker 4: then has reinvented himself in Miami and showed something last
Speaker 4: year and then looked great coming out this year and
Speaker 4: the hurt. Max Meyer dominated the mine came up and
Speaker 4: was so good I think for some was the top
Speaker 4: pitching prospect when he graduated whatever that year was like
Speaker 4: three four years ago, and then hit the majors and
Speaker 4: his slider was still plus, but everything else got hammer
Speaker 4: and he was bad and then hurt and then bad
Speaker 4: and then maybe now he's figuring it out. I think
Speaker 4: that kind of early season looks like some of the
Speaker 4: pitch shapes are different. Maybe that Miami has helped him
Speaker 4: develop finally, but that's a guy that, like he came
Speaker 4: up with the Miners and was really really dominant, I
Speaker 4: mean along the lines of some of these top pitching
Speaker 4: prospects that we're talking about now, and then it took
Speaker 4: him gosh five years to really figure it out in
Speaker 4: the major leagues. And I don't know. I think that
Speaker 4: going to the conversation that we started that we opened
Speaker 4: with the hot take nature and the really fat leaps
Speaker 4: to judgment that we make, even in the dynasty space
Speaker 4: doesn't really allow for the levels of nuance and letting
Speaker 4: a guy percolate. I mean, yeah, Like I just looked
Speaker 4: up Meyer's stats, and dude was brushing the minor league's
Speaker 4: you know, similar numbers in a lot of ways to
Speaker 4: Bubba Chandler. Maybe not quite as good as strike out right,
Speaker 4: but better ground ball rate, really really good numbers all
Speaker 4: the way. He gets up to the majors in twenty
Speaker 4: twenty two, runs a six point four to five fit,
Speaker 4: negative one war, just one outing, then gets fifty, then
Speaker 4: gets hurt, then gets fifty seven innings last year and
Speaker 4: runs a five point nine fit. And this was one
Speaker 4: of the better pitchers in the minor leagues, and he
Speaker 4: built up innings, you know, through one hundred innings one year,
Speaker 4: one hundred and thirty innings the next year. Like that.
Speaker 4: He was a workhorse that was dominating every level at
Speaker 4: a young age, had an elite pitch, came up and
Speaker 4: just got port for the better part of three years,
Speaker 4: including the injury year, and then now looks like he
Speaker 4: really has founded another gear and is showing good on
Speaker 4: the promise, but like they think about that as guys
Speaker 4: are coming up and struggle. Those are the guys to
Speaker 4: maybe invest in as a rebuilding team when somebody's on
Speaker 4: the downtick and see if you catch him on the
Speaker 4: rise back up as they start to figure things out.
Speaker 3: And that's why I mean, to me, the number one
Speaker 3: most important attribute that a pitcher needs to have is like,
Speaker 3: you've got to be able to make the baseball do
Speaker 3: what you wanted to at a very high end. I
Speaker 3: don't really know how we know that or try to
Speaker 3: make a guess at that other than watching yeah.
Speaker 4: And watching him helps. I mean, you've made a point
Speaker 4: a couple of times tonight, and I think it's a
Speaker 4: good one about data and like what can we see?
Speaker 4: It is so addictive to be able to see some
Speaker 4: of the cool stuff at the stack cast makes available,
Speaker 4: and even some of the people that are that are
Speaker 4: like turning that into I think more usable things like
Speaker 4: stack cast as a website itself, I think has some limitations,
Speaker 4: but it's really cool to see some of the more
Speaker 4: public stuff numbers and you know, Thomas Nestico, I think
Speaker 4: the stuff that he's doing is super cool showing that
Speaker 4: you know, Lance bridous birds out tea for how to
Speaker 4: pronounce his name, but some of the stuff that he
Speaker 4: does to showcase the data that you can pull out
Speaker 4: of there. I watched the first couple episodes of the
Speaker 4: Red Sox documentary on Netflix, and you know, it's well done,
Speaker 4: Like it's fun to get this kind of unvarnished look
Speaker 4: at the clubhouse and some good characters in there. I
Speaker 4: think they picked the team up. But the coolest stuff
Speaker 4: has been seeing Andrew Bailey, the Red Sox pitching coach,
Speaker 4: nerd it out with these guys. And you'll see in bullpens,
Speaker 4: guys are throwing bullpens and on the screen, they've got
Speaker 4: the live track man data showing the spin revolutions and
Speaker 4: the orientation. They've got the edgeotronic camera showing super slow
Speaker 4: motion finger placement and ball spin as it comes out.
Speaker 4: And they've got all of the traditional you know, velocity
Speaker 4: metrics and everything else. But then they've also got a
Speaker 4: biomechanical visualization. So they and he's saying to one of
Speaker 4: the pitchers, your knee is planted right, but it's just
Speaker 4: pointed a little bit off to the first base side,
Speaker 4: and here's what that's doing. To your whole kinetic change
Speaker 4: and like that stuff is it's just so cool to
Speaker 4: be able to stitch all of those things together and
Speaker 4: see how it then shows up in the pitch. I
Speaker 4: say all of that just to highlight that, like, these
Speaker 4: teams are so much fucking smarter than we are, and
Speaker 4: even the teams that are like still trying to catch up,
Speaker 4: you know, your White Sox of the world, your Rockies
Speaker 4: of the world. Not to pick it two teams at random,
Speaker 4: but those like these teams, they have access to and
Speaker 4: so much information, not least of it is is this
Speaker 4: guy actually committed to getting better? Is this guy putting
Speaker 4: in the work and is he receptive to feedback and
Speaker 4: that kind of stuff is like it's so cool to
Speaker 4: see and getting a little glimpse of it like in
Speaker 4: this in this documentary, but it's also just so frustrating
Speaker 4: from my end when or from our end, when we're
Speaker 4: like I got a Fangrafts leaderboard amilb dot com that
Speaker 4: kind of works sometimes and a stream that's showing a
Speaker 4: press box cam and I'm trying to evaluate pitch movement
Speaker 4: and like command, you know, like you can't get you
Speaker 4: can't It's we're spoiled in some ways. And that's why
Speaker 4: it's been fun, I think, in recent years to look
Speaker 4: at the Triple A stuff and compare it to Big League,
Speaker 4: because it can make that comparison. But look, even the
Speaker 4: little bits of info that we get from the Baseball
Speaker 4: America guys or from Chris clag like, it's still nothing.
Speaker 4: You know, you're not you're not getting anything compared to
Speaker 4: what the teams have.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for sure. To me watching it's just execution,
Speaker 3: trying to figure out who's good at it or not.
Speaker 3: We digressed there. But some other Triple League guys that
Speaker 3: I had watched, Matt was like a guy Lazaro Estrata
Speaker 3: talk about talk about execution. It was very.
Speaker 4: Terrible outing I watched, so that he got destroyed.
Speaker 3: I know, you know, watch a couple of the Cardinals guys,
Speaker 3: nothing really new to say, you know, the new opinions
Speaker 3: that I took away from there. But there was one
Speaker 3: pretty boy that I was pretty impressed, and I you know,
Speaker 3: seen him in college a few times, the clips from
Speaker 3: here and there's but never really sat down and watch
Speaker 3: a whole outing. And this was an abbreviated debut. But
Speaker 3: Chase Petty impressed me. Matt, I like Chase pet and
Speaker 3: the broadcast had a great comp I think, and this
Speaker 3: comp would have made no sense to me. Oh you
Speaker 3: just still didn't like that.
Speaker 4: I think you just said you didn't like Chase Petty.
Speaker 3: Damn it, Chase Burns. I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, I didn't think that's who you're talking.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I'm sorry. They're next to each other
Speaker 3: on my list here, and I screwed Chase Burns. Chase
Speaker 3: Burns debut, but the booth and I don't know if
Speaker 3: they got it from a coach that pumped him to
Speaker 3: Dylan Cease and I would never have like put that
Speaker 3: together until I watch. But if you watch, like his
Speaker 3: his fastball has two breaking balls and there's change up
Speaker 3: to probably not that great like Cease was, is not
Speaker 3: that great, but just the pitch shaped and the way
Speaker 3: that they sort of go off of each other seemed
Speaker 3: very Dylan. So I'm curious. I'm wondering if he's maybe
Speaker 3: even still a little bit under underdone. But on Dynasty
Speaker 3: lists and stuff like that, but obviously pro career just started.
Speaker 3: Lots more to learn.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, we've talked a little bit about him
Speaker 4: and the discord, And you know, I think that his
Speaker 4: slider is one of the single best pitches I've seen,
Speaker 4: just in terms of velocity, that the outcomes the way
Speaker 4: he uses it like it has a legit claim, I
Speaker 4: think to one of the very best pitches in the
Speaker 4: minor leagues. The thing I was surprised about is doing
Speaker 4: a little bit of digging into some non public info,
Speaker 4: is that his fastball got hit pretty well in college.
Speaker 4: Obviously different for lots of reasons, but you know, in
Speaker 4: not even the premiere conference, it still got hit you know,
Speaker 4: acc guy instead of the SEC and it still got
Speaker 4: hit pretty hard. He still got great results. Don't get
Speaker 4: me wrong, Lots of a lot like good shapes, good
Speaker 4: IVB's great velocity for sure, but it's something to monitor
Speaker 4: with him as he goes up the minor league ladder.
Speaker 4: Does he have a little Max Meyer skin him where
Speaker 4: he's got an elite slider, But maybe the velocity is
Speaker 4: hiding a fastball that maybe is a little bit more
Speaker 4: vulnerable than you'd like to see because I think his
Speaker 4: like the back shape of the fastball is maybe not
Speaker 4: ideal given his arm angle, and he gets good ride,
Speaker 4: but I think he releases it a little bit higher,
Speaker 4: so it's not quite as kind of flat as like above.
Speaker 4: A champ I think has a better fastball ship than Burns,
Speaker 4: but I count me as a fan. I think when
Speaker 4: I did some research into after Fangrafts published a bunch
Speaker 4: of the college data, I looked at, like the previous
Speaker 4: seasons and who really stood out and have those dominant
Speaker 4: stat lines college translated to Pro Bowl. The answer is
Speaker 4: not always. But Chase Burns I think had a pretty
Speaker 4: good argument to have the best college pitching season in
Speaker 4: the last however many years that it was on that
Speaker 4: lat the last four years. So he's good. He's good.
Speaker 3: There's a reason why he, you know, made just as
Speaker 3: much or not more money than anybody else.
Speaker 4: In the Yeah, he's a he's a fun one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I said, hopping around watching some debuts. But
Speaker 3: there was one debut that I have been looking forward to.
Speaker 3: I thought maybe we'd get it last year. But Dylan
Speaker 3: qstead of yeah it was did you watch it? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I did it. Yeah, I cut it up and I
Speaker 3: put it on the site and with all the with
Speaker 3: all the stat cast stuff side by side with it,
Speaker 3: watched a little bit of him as a prep right,
Speaker 3: some of the Perfect Game stuff he had, like you know,
Speaker 3: firm fast ball from Slider that I thought he could
Speaker 3: locate really well like East West, you know, relatively speaking
Speaker 3: to other Perfect Game clips, and you know the showcases
Speaker 3: and stuff that I that I occasionally watch. But you know,
Speaker 3: you watch a guy and you're like, oh, I wonder
Speaker 3: if this I wonder if what if this is going
Speaker 3: to be kind of like lots of different offering offerings,
Speaker 3: kitchen sink, kind of got pitchability, blah blah blah, that
Speaker 3: sort of guy. And then he showed up and his
Speaker 3: debut was like kind of exactly what I was hoping
Speaker 3: to see. And then like more advanced sequencing and mixing
Speaker 3: and throwing like everything everybody different counts and all that,
Speaker 3: you know, the stuff that we like a lot now right,
Speaker 3: the stuff that could could portend to you know, having
Speaker 3: successful sure just right right right, yeah right? So I
Speaker 3: don't know if anything is gonna ever, and who knows too.
Speaker 3: With the Twins man, they got Zemmie Matthews hitting like
Speaker 3: ninety eight miles per hour. Now is that twins? Oh? Really?
Speaker 3: Is that is that Twins? Is that him? Is that?
Speaker 3: You know other coaches that he has outside of the
Speaker 3: order they shot. But they tend to have these guys
Speaker 3: where they you know, they draft picture and then they
Speaker 3: try to sharpen the skill. At least that's what it
Speaker 3: seems for me watching a lot of the guys the
Speaker 3: last five years. But I like the spot, I like
Speaker 3: where he's that. I'm super interested to see how the
Speaker 3: rest of his season and career goes, because he could
Speaker 3: very well end up being one of the guys he
Speaker 3: kind of left.
Speaker 4: All right, all right, good shout. You've had a couple
Speaker 4: of them. I mean, I saw yerming Rosario's first outing
Speaker 4: was incredible, like if he looked awesome.
Speaker 3: I didn't walk anybody I know and punched out like
Speaker 3: eight or something like it was.
Speaker 4: It was a great one. And speaking of guys that
Speaker 4: came out of nowhere and didn't walk anybody, Griff McGary
Speaker 4: went four innings, punched out eight and didn't walk anybody. Wow,
Speaker 4: this guy ever had an outing where he didn't walk
Speaker 4: multiple people, Like I genuinely don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I feel like the Phillies do have
Speaker 3: had some success with some guys really bumping up their
Speaker 3: their command, their their execution strike now, and I think
Speaker 3: we had questioned if some of his really bad ability
Speaker 3: with that stuff past I had to do with some injuries,
Speaker 3: blisters and stuff. I don't bet, dude, Joe Boyle can
Speaker 3: go an outing or two that walk a lot, and
Speaker 3: then I never really that's the bes thing with that stuff.
Speaker 3: I could never really like, holy trust to me, it's like,
Speaker 3: once you are that, there's gonna be some of that.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, it takes a while to get that out.
Speaker 4: I know you've said that with kind of Joe Boyle
Speaker 4: when he would showed a little bit of that last
Speaker 4: spring training and then hit of course reverted back and
Speaker 4: same this spring training, although it maybe has stuck a
Speaker 4: little bit more. But yeah, looking at McGary, I just
Speaker 4: pulled up his game logs from last year. Mind you,
Speaker 4: he was just a reliever last year. He didn't start
Speaker 4: a game, and he's going one at a time, one
Speaker 4: inning at a time. I think's got maybe two or
Speaker 4: three outings that were two innings, but most of these
Speaker 4: in reverse order from September last year. Let me read
Speaker 4: you his walk numbers zero innings, three walks, one inning,
Speaker 4: one walk, one inning, no walks, point two innings, one walk,
Speaker 4: one inning, one walk, two thirds of an inning, two walk,
Speaker 4: one inning, one walk, one inning, three walks. Like this
Speaker 4: is just the fact that he had a multi inning
Speaker 4: outing and you know, started a game, went four innings,
Speaker 4: no walks. I didn't watch it, but I think I
Speaker 4: might have to go back and watch because that's just
Speaker 4: like kind of blew my mind that all of last
Speaker 4: year he's a reliever, only no idea where the ball's
Speaker 4: going and did I saw this line and I was like,
Speaker 4: that can't be the same guy. That's not the Griff
Speaker 4: McGary that we know and love.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you there's times where, like a few years back,
Speaker 3: it was like he was throwing all his offerings in
Speaker 3: the same at that and like really putting him where
Speaker 3: he wanted. But then it would just go to complete
Speaker 3: crap the next hour. And that's why rumor that I
Speaker 3: heard about like blisters or whatever kind of checked out
Speaker 3: and made some sense. Yeah, he is drastically different from
Speaker 3: out in the outing, at least back bending. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't know, we'll see, Yeah, some fun ones. It
Speaker 3: just kind of popped up like that. That's uh, piques
Speaker 3: my interest. Yeah, and I don't know. I watched the
Speaker 3: cut up Jose Montero from last night, who was my
Speaker 3: reds Arms offseason, Dude, I think you would like that
Speaker 3: outing quite a bit, talking about a guy who was
Speaker 3: just like dominating, throwing eighty four eighty five, not fast balls,
Speaker 3: splitters at that speed, some breaking balls at that fastball
Speaker 3: that was like ninety ninety one, ninety two. He can't
Speaker 3: get it up there more though we saw that last year.
Speaker 3: But just talk about just peppering the bottom of his
Speaker 3: own dude, and these guys know that the glitter was come,
Speaker 3: had no shot. Yeah, heeded in the ground with I
Speaker 3: don't know how exciting Montero is gonna get, but he's
Speaker 3: he's one of the more intriguing look for me this
Speaker 3: early offseason.
Speaker 4: No, that's fun.
Speaker 3: And I saw tyrone Yuli, who was my pick from
Speaker 3: two years ago, who had Tommy John got hurt. He's
Speaker 3: back at Hudson Valley, but it looks like I think
Speaker 3: they got him working as like a real reliever, or
Speaker 3: maybe it's just maybe it's just short innings as he
Speaker 3: gets back into it or whatever. But homeboys like throwing
Speaker 3: like ninety eight. Wow, he was like he was like
Speaker 3: ninety four before. TJ Curious there I don't know. Of course,
Speaker 3: if he's a relief pitcher, that you know, drains a
Speaker 3: lot of dynasty value and interest. But it's a lively
Speaker 3: arm with I think some good pitchability in there that
Speaker 3: really dominated in stretches at high A before he went.
Speaker 3: But I guess that would have been way back in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty threes.
Speaker 4: A lifetime ago in dining world.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, with two years, it's just oh, one
Speaker 3: more guy. I wanted to bring up. New guy made
Speaker 3: his full season debut, but Way and Lynn.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that one out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, did you take a look at He's Taiwanese.
Speaker 4: We love a Taiwanese arm, I know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a kind of a lanky lefty. Was like
Speaker 3: a nice frame. You could see him, you know, adding
Speaker 3: some more masks or whatever. But uh, and I think
Speaker 3: I think the broadcast said that he had pitched for
Speaker 3: their national team in the past, but I didn't know
Speaker 3: anything about him. I think he just signed last year.
Speaker 3: Good size guys as fastball's probably like it was like
Speaker 3: low nineties or something like that. I'd love to know
Speaker 3: what his like release point, you know, how a tug
Speaker 3: boat has kind of a tugboat's release point. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: wonder if Lynn is kind of similar. Okay, but what
Speaker 3: he went, I don't have the line up, but you know,
Speaker 3: for so kind of maybe a bit of a funky left.
Speaker 3: He's got kind of a big swooping slower slurve at
Speaker 3: like seventy six or whatever sweeper for to use the
Speaker 3: contemporary nomenclature, I guess, but I think it was mostly
Speaker 3: like fastball and the and the slur but really just
Speaker 3: pounded in zone, putting it where he wanted to do
Speaker 3: at a pretty high clip. I gut it. I imagine
Speaker 3: could probably put up pretty good numbers in a ball
Speaker 3: and maybe get just just a new guy, just a
Speaker 3: new guy that call my attention well enough to get
Speaker 3: into and I think you would enjoy watching him.
Speaker 4: Put him on the list.
Speaker 3: But how about some bats man talk about the losers?
Speaker 4: What I mean, I gotta say, like I haven't watched
Speaker 4: too many or the ones that I've watched, I haven't
Speaker 4: put too much stock in it. Sure I will say,
Speaker 4: like when I sorted one of my minor league leaderboards
Speaker 4: about a week into the season, I was quite encouraged
Speaker 4: how many b siders were near the top. Like I'm
Speaker 4: not kidding like a ton of these guys at the
Speaker 4: top of one of my leaderboards. It was like Trenton Brooks,
Speaker 4: who was a last year guy for me, Alex Freeland,
Speaker 4: who wasn't a b side guy, but we talked about
Speaker 4: him a bunch last year, Tim Tawa, we both loved
Speaker 4: this year playing a guy from my last year, Gustavo Campero,
Speaker 4: guy of mine last year, Darryl Hurnaes one of year
Speaker 4: old guys, Porge Barosa, a dude we've talked about before,
Speaker 4: Auto Kemp Cody Freeman is off to a nice start,
Speaker 4: like he popped on one of my lists that he
Speaker 4: got the k right down and hit pretty well. It
Speaker 4: was just funny, Like this leaderboard usually is populated with
Speaker 4: a mix of you know, really pretty boy guys and
Speaker 4: then occasionally one or two, but it was like of
Speaker 4: the top twenty or thirty bath it was like ten
Speaker 4: or fifteen or one of hower by side guys from
Speaker 4: recent memory, And I feel like that doesn't often happen,
Speaker 4: that they all get out to a nice start like that.
Speaker 4: You know, Capus was up there, Santa Brio was up there, and.
Speaker 3: It's just like five fifty or something like that. Isn't he.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got a three eighteen WRC plus currently.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think he did something tonight too, so he's online.
Speaker 3: As as the minor league season goes on, there's always
Speaker 3: like one bat at a time that I'm like, that's
Speaker 3: the first guy that I just like go to check
Speaker 3: to see how he did. And obviously that ebbs and
Speaker 3: flows and changes throughout the course of the year. But
Speaker 3: my first guy this year is my that's B side choice. Eli. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's talked too, and that was pretty.
Speaker 3: Good start and watching like playing some good defense and yeah.
Speaker 4: Nice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like all right, that's not like changing my priors
Speaker 3: or anything like that. But the thing is, guys like that,
Speaker 3: I didn't have a lot of priors. It was just
Speaker 3: a brief prodad. But it's been fun to see him
Speaker 3: have some early success.
Speaker 4: I don't know, I mean a couple a couple other
Speaker 4: guys like my dude from last year, Leo Revos from
Speaker 4: the Mariners. He's a big leaguer now, like another B
Speaker 4: sider in the BIGS. It took a couple of injuries
Speaker 4: and a nice hot start to him, you know, he
Speaker 4: had a good first couple of weeks. Who else John
Speaker 4: Rave is doing pretty well at Triple A, and I
Speaker 4: still think that he might get a shot in Kansas
Speaker 4: City just because they've got their outfield is miserable. It's
Speaker 4: so bad.
Speaker 3: I want crim Man. I just want to see Krim.
Speaker 4: I know, playing Krim. Well, we'll get him up there.
Speaker 4: He's smashing to start the year too. I know if
Speaker 4: he had done this start last year, I think he
Speaker 4: would have gotten on a run, mistimed, miss timed. But
Speaker 4: it's not like a Berger is looking all that great either,
Speaker 4: so maybe they shuffle swiping around and get him.
Speaker 3: Doesn't Berger have like a forty home run season and
Speaker 3: the digs under his belt?
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know, if he gets hot. Maybe It's
Speaker 4: not like Josh Smith has been great either third, So
Speaker 4: I don't know. It's it's a tough road to go
Speaker 4: as a as a corner guy. I mean that those
Speaker 4: first base profiles are tough. Ryan Ritter off to a
Speaker 4: good start, Kyle Carros off to a good start.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jeros. So Ben Williamson's been hitting to.
Speaker 4: It a right, Yeah he has. I don't know. Hey,
Speaker 4: even Victor Lebrona look at him. I had checked in
Speaker 4: on him.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 4: One seventy three WRC plus I love that guy at
Speaker 4: double a man.
Speaker 3: Anybody in the bigs like kind of getting your attention.
Speaker 4: Well, it wouldn't be a Dynasty dog Got Discord podcast.
Speaker 4: I didn't talk about Beef Goodman a little bit, right.
Speaker 3: That sucks because Beef has been the funniest guy to
Speaker 3: talk about.
Speaker 4: I love it. I'm not Yeah, I'm not hayting like
Speaker 4: I told you. I was like, I know the real
Speaker 4: thing here. It's like, it's funny.
Speaker 3: It has been the thing people hear them because he's
Speaker 3: talked about them. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah. For for those of you that are missing the
Speaker 4: inside joke here, the real ones on the Discord will
Speaker 4: know that Beef Goodman has been quite the hot button
Speaker 4: topic on multiple occasions.
Speaker 3: It's like, dude has good four games or whatever, Like
Speaker 3: four games later, his numbers are flipped upside down, right,
Speaker 3: Why why are we doing I don't understand. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: but dude, Tyler Sadistrom, dude, like this is just me
Speaker 3: being like a fantasy player. It was like, dude, I
Speaker 3: need this guy's guy. I can do good a couple
Speaker 3: of my teams. That's huge and so far, so good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I saw him. I went to opening night,
Speaker 4: dude hit two bombs like he is locked in. He
Speaker 4: looks really.
Speaker 3: Good, always had the juice, was just hitting the ball on.
Speaker 3: But hey, correct me if I'm wrong, Matt. But was
Speaker 3: it I thought Sacramento was like fairly neutral part or
Speaker 3: was that just like neutral for PCL or.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think that was the case that
Speaker 4: it was like played relatively neutral for the PCL. But
Speaker 4: there are differences, right, Like it's different quality of player
Speaker 4: playing in that park too, and that impact the level.
Speaker 4: Like now you've got big leaders playing there, So I
Speaker 4: think I saw some hypotheses that it was going to
Speaker 4: raise the level or raise the park factor a bit
Speaker 4: just by having big leaders play there.
Speaker 3: A little park have player factors.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, because that's how they build them, right,
Speaker 4: It's like how do the players do at those at
Speaker 4: those parks? The ones that are crazy to me are
Speaker 4: the that the big variation things that you would think
Speaker 4: really are affected by the park, like K rate and
Speaker 4: walk rate, Like now, really does the park affect those things?
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Like, but there's real effects.
Speaker 4: It's not huge, Like the differently the biggest K park
Speaker 4: in the lowest is not enormous, just outside of the
Speaker 4: crazy ones, what do you think.
Speaker 3: Plays in that like lighting shadows.
Speaker 4: The allegedly yeah shadows, the batter's eye, the lighting, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I think all of it has they hypothesize has something like.
Speaker 4: That's the thing about park factors is they aren't really
Speaker 4: telling you why. Like you know, the park factor for
Speaker 4: Wrigley is has one number, that's the park factor. But
Speaker 4: as you know, as somebody that has spends the time
Speaker 4: in Chicago, like it doesn't really matter, really really matters
Speaker 4: the day that you're there. Is it a warm day
Speaker 4: where the wind is blowing in one direction? Is it
Speaker 4: a freezing cold April day where the wind is blowing
Speaker 4: in off the lake? Like you don't know? And that's
Speaker 4: I think one of the like actual gambling edges that
Speaker 4: people use in dfs and in some betting things is
Speaker 4: they have better weather models than the lines and most
Speaker 4: other betters. And I think that's one of the areas
Speaker 4: where people make better than the veig is in those
Speaker 4: kinds of edges where the park factor is a super
Speaker 4: complicated thing that gets distilled down to one number, but
Speaker 4: it's actually quite dynamic and hard to internalize that. But yeah,
Speaker 4: the ones that's like have wildly different strikeout rates. It's like,
Speaker 4: that's really weird. Like the you know, safe cos or
Speaker 4: t Mobile Park and in Seattle is one that's like
Speaker 4: that has the highest strike out rate in the league.
Speaker 4: And there was that article this off season about how
Speaker 4: it was the most extreme park in the major leagues
Speaker 4: Coors included. But then the other direction and that effect
Speaker 4: seems to be real.
Speaker 3: Make any trades yet, I'm.
Speaker 4: Always making trades, mostly little ones so far, like relievers.
Speaker 4: I said yes to another thirty teamer that was like, free,
Speaker 4: pick up this team and you know, run it because
Speaker 4: it was the Braves. And of course the Braves have
Speaker 4: been the worst offense in baseball so far, and my
Speaker 4: team is like all these Braves. So I got smoked
Speaker 4: Week one. But yeah, I've made a couple of tinkery
Speaker 4: type trades, and I mostly have done a pretty good job,
Speaker 4: I think, either sticking to my guns or picking up
Speaker 4: a couple of prospects here and there, guys that I like.
Speaker 4: So we'll see. It's early, but it's always nice when
Speaker 4: someone in your diynasty league reaches out. It's like, hey,
Speaker 4: can I get that guy. That's a guy that you've
Speaker 4: had for six months and all of a sudden, now
Speaker 4: they're getting a bunch of interests. That's always but it
Speaker 4: actually has happened twice literally while we've been on this podcast.
Speaker 4: I've gotten dms from league mates about different prospects, and
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, we can talk about that guy, because
Speaker 4: I'm I'm always down to trade my prospects to prove
Speaker 4: my team.
Speaker 3: What you got any plans for Saturday for Ryan's Doowe's
Speaker 3: first MLB starting.
Speaker 4: I actually don't think I have any plans on Saturday.
Speaker 4: But Sunday is a busy day for us. I'm sure
Speaker 4: we'll be cleaning. But cleaning around this house is great.
Speaker 4: We're putting the kids to work so like they they're
Speaker 4: learning how to clean from a young age. But it's
Speaker 4: also a time when we could put on like records
Speaker 4: and have the music bumping, and then usually put on
Speaker 4: some baseball in the background. I've been watching quite a
Speaker 4: bit of college baseball lately. That's been fun. I was
Speaker 4: telling you that, you know, with my buddy Connor, who's
Speaker 4: been on the pod getting the call up to the
Speaker 4: Big Ten, it's been fun to follow them and follow.
Speaker 3: A little more of Big Ten.
Speaker 4: Dude, the conference alignment stuff, I've put it out of
Speaker 4: my mind because it's so different to how things were
Speaker 4: when I last cared about college you know, really cared
Speaker 4: about college sports when I was playing. And yeah, so
Speaker 4: I can't even really think about it. Like they were
Speaker 4: playing Rutgers at Rutgers, and it's like, guys, those are
Speaker 4: literally on opposite ends of the country. They're in the
Speaker 4: same conferences, and you do the same conference. They're Seattle.
Speaker 3: Time never reminds me. I was going to ask you
Speaker 3: this earlier when you were playing. I'm going to assume
Speaker 3: here correctly if I'm wrong, But you had like off seasons, right,
Speaker 3: and I mean so that's what yeah, really and whatever, Okay,
Speaker 3: let me be better phrase. Did you have did you
Speaker 3: have like periods where you were like sort of thinking
Speaker 3: about all right, looking at last year, this is what happened,
Speaker 3: looking forward to this year, how can I do better?
Speaker 3: And implementing some ideas things change? For me?
Speaker 4: That was yeah, that was the fall, like fall for
Speaker 4: us was you know, the college rules have always been like,
Speaker 4: you know, trying to be protective of players and not
Speaker 4: have overbearing coaches. So there's like limits on the amount
Speaker 4: of coaching that they can do. And but we had
Speaker 4: access to our facilities all the time, so there was
Speaker 4: never really any significant downtime. The most would be like
Speaker 4: right at the start of the year. We would come
Speaker 4: back and it be a lot more about like this,
Speaker 4: At least on our team. A lot of people would
Speaker 4: play at summer ball and get fat and out of shape,
Speaker 4: like they wouldn't work out anymore, and so the first
Speaker 4: like month almost of coming back was like getting your
Speaker 4: cardio back and building up any muscle that you've lost,
Speaker 4: because you know, we would play one hundred and play
Speaker 4: usually one hundred and twenty one hundred and thirty games
Speaker 4: a year, and that's like games, not on top of
Speaker 4: the practices that for us went from like January to August,
Speaker 4: maybe even early September. Yeah, that was our that was
Speaker 4: our season. And then you come back and like September
Speaker 4: was get back shape, you know, start classes and all
Speaker 4: of that and have like more one on one time
Speaker 4: with coaches and that might be where they would start
Speaker 4: implementing new things. And then we'd have fall practices which
Speaker 4: were longer and you know, maybe you were implementing doing
Speaker 4: stuff there, and then I guess it was really like
Speaker 4: after our fall practice and ended that was usually when
Speaker 4: you had the most time to like work on your
Speaker 4: swing or like you're implementing a change you've been trying
Speaker 4: out in the cages, and I think some of our
Speaker 4: guys like would ramp up their bullpen. And winter break
Speaker 4: was always like for our pictures, especially because when we
Speaker 4: got back to school after winter break, it was a
Speaker 4: month when the season started, so they had to like
Speaker 4: hit the ground running. So I know that for them
Speaker 4: and for us too. I mean it was hard to
Speaker 4: get good hitting practice going back home for Christmas, but
Speaker 4: that was really it. I would say, like fall season
Speaker 4: was when you might try some things and you know,
Speaker 4: like no shade on my coach, But most of them
Speaker 4: weren't really all about like the mechanics or we're going
Speaker 4: to do a swing change, or we're working on our
Speaker 4: pitch shapes or experimenting in that way. Some guys would
Speaker 4: do that on their own, but mostly it was getting
Speaker 4: reps and then they were just like a bunch of
Speaker 4: fens work or whatever. But I think that now that's
Speaker 4: like the prime time is falls when.
Speaker 3: Good Okay, tell me if you think I'm off basy
Speaker 3: right my observations of human behavior baseball. I think it
Speaker 3: can be tricky. I think it could be hard. I
Speaker 3: think it could perhaps go against us that like you know, Okay,
Speaker 3: we go into the off season, we get these new
Speaker 3: ideas or maybe these new techniques. We come out, we
Speaker 3: try them, we're doing them for a while, and then
Speaker 3: you know, by the time we get to July, what
Speaker 3: have you those things have kind of been forgotten. We're
Speaker 3: not used right, Like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, only some of that, like where you had a thing,
Speaker 4: you were trying it and then like it didn't work
Speaker 4: one day and you reverted back and stayed on the
Speaker 4: old thing. And I'll say this, we used to make
Speaker 4: like I was always you know, I was never great college.
Speaker 4: I was really good in my last couple of years,
Speaker 4: but not great. And so that meant I was always worked,
Speaker 4: always like hinkering switching things around like I did every
Speaker 4: from big leg kick to like standing straight up, different
Speaker 4: hand positions, like I was always tinkering, right, And you
Speaker 4: would do things that you thought were huge change, like oh,
Speaker 4: I'm really pointing the bat because that's helping me with handload.
Speaker 4: And now it's going to be so different, And you
Speaker 4: could put the video up of like this massive change
Speaker 4: that you made, and you're swinging from a week before
Speaker 4: when you were doing kind of the baseline barely. This
Speaker 4: like the change that feels huge to you. You're like,
Speaker 4: I've made this huge, dynamic change. I'm a totally different guy.
Speaker 4: I'm up there and you actually put the video up
Speaker 4: and the change is pretty subtle. You can see it,
Speaker 4: but it's subtle. And I think that that plays into
Speaker 4: it too, where you might feel that you've made a
Speaker 4: giant pain and some of it might be really different,
Speaker 4: but it's hard to see that because it's it actually
Speaker 4: ends up being a pretty subtle change and difficult to
Speaker 4: view from the outside. That's my That has been my experience,
Speaker 4: and I would say it's been my experience with tennis too, Like,
Speaker 4: you know, same kind of thing. You just you think
Speaker 4: you're making a big change, but it's not.
Speaker 3: Because we like to talk about, you know, guys off
Speaker 3: to a fast start or what have you. It's like, well,
Speaker 3: there's going to be regression to the mean, right regression,
Speaker 3: He's not gonna he's never had a three fifty OBP.
Speaker 3: He's always been three hundred. Like it'll come back down, right.
Speaker 3: That sort of thing, which is just thinking about numbers, right,
Speaker 3: probability statistics, but like I'm starting to think about more.
Speaker 3: You know, man, maybe it's because I've been watching some
Speaker 3: of these players coming up and now they're in the
Speaker 3: big whatever. But like I think there's also just like
Speaker 3: a regression to us in our habits. And Mike said,
Speaker 3: because like not making this about Covar, but it's just
Speaker 3: that I'm watching it. Like he definitely isn't chasing the
Speaker 3: slider as much has been a he is taking first
Speaker 3: pitches like often. But to me, it's like and however
Speaker 3: that affects the stats or whatever, that's not my point here.
Speaker 3: It's like, all right, buddy, let's see if you're doing
Speaker 3: this in July or June or whatever. Right, does that
Speaker 3: make sense? Like my point here, like, yeah, I think
Speaker 3: early on you could see some guys making some changes,
Speaker 3: but it's like how sticky, how disciplined are they going
Speaker 3: to do with im to stand a lot?
Speaker 4: Oh for for sure. And I this might have been
Speaker 4: on rates and barrels with Ino Sarah's David Ripper the
Speaker 4: other day, but I think they were talking about this too,
Speaker 4: about like the arm angle positioning, and that's the thing
Speaker 4: that like you see guys drop down start to start
Speaker 4: and maybe that's a signal of injury. Maybe it's a
Speaker 4: signal of I'm trying something new or or vice versa.
Speaker 4: Maybe they're raising their arm angle to get something different,
Speaker 4: like I think that that that can be a signal
Speaker 4: of something, but it also could be just a regression
Speaker 4: back to like something that maybe was their arm angle
Speaker 4: in the past or or something like that. I think
Speaker 4: the one that was interesting too, that was a fairly
Speaker 4: recent revelation was the where people stand in the battle effectively.
Speaker 4: Wild had a bit on this a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 4: I think, where they showed that some people really do
Speaker 4: tinker and move their position in the box from up
Speaker 4: near the front to all the way in the back.
Speaker 3: I just kind of assumed everybody puts their back foot
Speaker 3: on the back line now because most people does.
Speaker 4: Most people do, but not everybody. And even like the
Speaker 4: position the X access away from the plate too, is
Speaker 4: some people stand a lot farther away from the plate
Speaker 4: that way, some people stand closer, and some people change
Speaker 4: how far away that is. So I think that there
Speaker 4: is still tinkering that goes on there, and that's something
Speaker 4: that like isn't necessarily a regression right like that can
Speaker 4: physically place yourself, place that back foot wherever you want
Speaker 4: in the box, and that's where you're going to load from.
Speaker 4: But it's interesting to see that guys definitely tweak that
Speaker 4: they do still for the most part, sit at the
Speaker 4: very back of the box. But it's funny too because
Speaker 4: it's not that much more time, like and are you
Speaker 4: giving up something on the front end, Like maybe I
Speaker 4: don't know that. The research was generally like, yes, being
Speaker 4: farther back in the box seems to help, but it
Speaker 4: doesn't seem like it helps uniformly. It's not for everybody
Speaker 4: getting that extra split second, extra frame or two. So
Speaker 4: interesting new data that I'm sure people will continue to analyze.
Speaker 4: But another place that we can actively see people experiment
Speaker 4: change move back, change move back. Yeah, it's it's one
Speaker 4: of those weird tweets that you're never going to solve it,
Speaker 4: but you can keep trying.
Speaker 3: I didn't play any sort of high level of baseball,
Speaker 3: but like in high schools, like, oh, guy's got like
Speaker 3: a good curveball, like moving up. Yeah, I don't ever
Speaker 3: see it. Do any hitters move up to the front
Speaker 3: of the box.
Speaker 4: I don't think by like per hit but some guys
Speaker 4: like I was saying, they have adjusted up to them
Speaker 4: like forward in the box or moved around in another direction. Again,
Speaker 4: generally it's moving farther back, but not uniformly.
Speaker 3: I don't know, Oh, Matt, I was gonna say, I
Speaker 3: think your B side Iraqi's B side on This year
Speaker 3: may have had the outing of the year so far
Speaker 3: for pitcher Blake Adams nice five almost perfect innings, eleven strikeouts.
Speaker 3: I think no walk or maybe one walk or something
Speaker 3: like that. I didn't I turned it on briefly. I
Speaker 3: did not watch very much, but that shout off to
Speaker 3: a good start.
Speaker 4: Jack Chot too, he had a really good first start.
Speaker 4: These are the guys I wasn't even that excited about
Speaker 4: far down the list.
Speaker 3: Sometimes we'll see, we'll see.
Speaker 4: All of that sticks. Oh and Eric Wagerman, he was
Speaker 4: one of my guys. He made the BIGS. I picked
Speaker 4: him for the Angels DFA. He's a big leiguer. Now
Speaker 4: who's getting some kids? Is playing time with the you know.
Speaker 3: One of the words done anything? Is he know?
Speaker 4: He's been I think forgettable and he isn't playing a
Speaker 4: ton I don't think. But I was pumped. I was
Speaker 4: pumped and he got picked up, and then like he's
Speaker 4: actually getting a little bit of runs. Not it's not
Speaker 4: going right for him, but you know, still something.
Speaker 3: Right, well, man, unless there's anything else, should we wrap
Speaker 3: it up?
Speaker 4: That's wrap it up. Good, good chatting and lots and
Speaker 4: lots of fun stuff. It does feel a bit like
Speaker 4: the fire hose this early in the season, especially when
Speaker 4: all the full season ball kicks off like it did
Speaker 4: this week and there's something everywhere. Oh, I did have
Speaker 4: one more, one more shout when we were talking about
Speaker 4: like that. This is one that popped up in my
Speaker 4: off season research and like, he's somebody that I might
Speaker 4: write up. I hope that he keeps doing well because
Speaker 4: you know me and I love a good story, and
Speaker 4: this guy might have one of the best stories in
Speaker 4: the minor leagues. Got drafted in twenty and seventeen. So
Speaker 4: this guy, he's like not across nobody as far as
Speaker 4: I can tell. He doesn't have a profile on Baseball America,
Speaker 4: Baseball Spectus, He's got a pretty sparse fangrafts page, and
Speaker 4: I found a couple of stories written about him throughout
Speaker 4: the years. But so he was originally drafted at twenty seventeen,
Speaker 4: didn't sign by the Guardians, didn't sign, tried to go
Speaker 4: to college, no college would take him, ended up playing
Speaker 4: like Naia for a bit. And I'm forgetting some of
Speaker 4: the details, but like I think was out of baseball,
Speaker 4: but his coach just loved him so much and like
Speaker 4: roped him back in. He signs as an undrafted free
Speaker 4: agent in July of twenty three, which was like a
Speaker 4: year after he was done in college, if I'm remembering
Speaker 4: the timeline right, So he'd been like out of organized basically.
Speaker 4: Maybe he went to indie ball, maybe he was playing
Speaker 4: like some college summer ball or something. But he gets signed,
Speaker 4: and since he's been signed, he has been like, honestly
Speaker 4: pretty incredible and wild stat line like the guy. His
Speaker 4: lowest WRC plus in any level so far is one
Speaker 4: fifty four, and that was a pretty small sample in
Speaker 4: a ball last year. His overall sample or two years
Speaker 4: ago in twenty twenty three, right after signed, His overall
Speaker 4: WRC plus in the minors is like two eighteen. So
Speaker 4: he has just murdered every level that he's been at,
Speaker 4: but it has come with like pretty high strikeout rates.
Speaker 4: He's also so old, he's twenty six and he's in
Speaker 4: High A still, so like that's why he's not a prospect.
Speaker 3: But I just love those guys.
Speaker 4: I mean yeah, yeah, Like as twenty six in high
Speaker 4: of course he should be crushing. But he's off to
Speaker 4: another hot start this year to eighteen w plus so
Speaker 4: far this year. His name is Cole Turney. I'm telling you,
Speaker 4: nobody is talking about this guy, and I'm sure for
Speaker 4: good reason. Like I thought maybe they'd start him at
Speaker 4: Double A this year, but they put him back at
Speaker 4: High A, which he crushed for a one seventy three
Speaker 4: WRC plus last year. But he keeps getting hurt.
Speaker 3: He got hurt.
Speaker 4: I was so pumped when I found him in one
Speaker 4: of my things. I went and watched like all of
Speaker 4: his stuff. He swings and missus all the time. He
Speaker 4: walks a lot, but still ran like a twenty nine
Speaker 4: percent strikeout rate in Hi A last year at like
Speaker 4: twenty nine percent. I think even hired this struck out
Speaker 4: a couple times today against tug Boat Wilkinson. So like, again,
Speaker 4: he's not a real prospect, but he is a guy
Speaker 4: that I am like so rooting for him to make
Speaker 4: it because this is like nobody wanted guy. I looked
Speaker 4: this up. His college numbers were insane. His like Juco
Speaker 4: or Nia numbers were absolutely mantrous. So the guy everywhere
Speaker 4: he's been has just murdered the baseball. I think he
Speaker 4: plays outfield mostly, but I think he's played on first
Speaker 4: base too, so he's like a little bit of a
Speaker 4: multi positional type guy. But I am rooting for Cole Tourney.
Speaker 4: So hard to says like, I have never heard anybody
Speaker 4: talk about him in any way. The dude does nothing
Speaker 4: but crush the ball, and in a super fun way,
Speaker 4: just like he's gonna get his hack off and try
Speaker 4: and make it work and he'll he'll punch out, but
Speaker 4: he walks some and he's got some speed. You know,
Speaker 4: I want him to put a full season together here. Fun,
Speaker 4: he is so fun.
Speaker 3: I'm well, I wanted to mention too, like mi ILB
Speaker 3: dot TV right now, dude, I mean, this happens every year.
Speaker 3: In the beginning, I hope it doesn't stick, but there's
Speaker 3: been so many outings that like not the usual center
Speaker 3: field camera that we get right, or just not even broadcast.
Speaker 3: They broadcast for games, but it's just like somebody forgot
Speaker 3: to hit record. So yeah, we'llways forget how frustrating that is.
Speaker 3: Big end of the year, that is, that's happening for sure,
Speaker 3: but should only be down now to two teams that
Speaker 3: don't Jupiter No, not on beach and ash Wow. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean considering where that was, like I don't know,
Speaker 3: six years ago or whatever, like this huge improvement. But AnyWho,
Speaker 3: we should probably wrap this up. If you want to
Speaker 3: check out of the videos that some of the guys
Speaker 3: I was talking about, you can go to Muddy loooks
Speaker 3: dot com. You can follow me on Twitter at muddy Looks.
Speaker 3: I changed it, changed up my handle there and I.
Speaker 4: Gotta we gotta get your se o up because I
Speaker 4: googled muddy Looks the other day when you're posting about it,
Speaker 4: I didn't have a link, candy, and it is not
Speaker 4: anywhere on Google.
Speaker 3: I don't even know what that means is.
Speaker 4: We'll work on that.
Speaker 3: And I'm on Blue Sky too at muddy stole the same.
Speaker 3: But uh yeah, Matt, good to talk to you. Let's
Speaker 3: get some of these uh these plate appearances up hitters
Speaker 3: here instead of getting into this guys.
Speaker 4: Let's do it.
Speaker 3: Uh you well and we will talk to you next time.
Speaker 2: Bye bye.
Speaker 1: Miles an hour riding to his head. He hopped down
Speaker 1: first with the lumpbonius face, and on the very next
Speaker 1: pitch he up and stole second face.
Speaker 2: With gretest speed. He wasn't born. He had the dirty
Speaker 2: Yes uniform