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Speaker 2: Now, what are your reporting? I got a screen going
Speaker 2: on here. Something just kid with my dog, something to
Speaker 2: kill your dog?
Speaker 3: My dog.
Speaker 2: We're flying through there, over the tree. I don't know
Speaker 2: how it did it? Okay, damn, I'm really confused. All
Speaker 2: I saw was my dog coming over the fence and
Speaker 2: they would dead once you hit the grill. I didn't
Speaker 2: see any cars. All I saw was my dog coming
Speaker 2: over the fence. Sat, what are you reporting? We got
Speaker 2: some wonder or something crawling around out here? Did you
Speaker 2: see what it was? It was enough here looking. I'm
Speaker 2: new to the window now and I don't see anything.
Speaker 2: I don't want to go outside. It's point you're kara
Speaker 2: here y hello, hit somebody out here? What quin on
Speaker 2: the out there's thought of a bit just about sixty
Speaker 2: forty nine. I don't know, easy, I'm out there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm welcome right away.
Speaker 3: Oh, thanks for joining me today. What I want to
Speaker 3: share with you it comes from Tina. Tina is originally
Speaker 3: from the yk Delta, which is Yukon Cuscokwum Delta for
Speaker 3: those who don't know. She reached out and wanted to
Speaker 3: share what it was like for her back when she
Speaker 3: was watching her cousins. This was back in nineteen eighty two.
Speaker 4: She was in town from.
Speaker 3: College on a summer break to help with the fishing activities,
Speaker 3: and she got roped into watching the three younger relatives
Speaker 3: of hers that were staying at her grandma's house.
Speaker 4: She stayed the whole season.
Speaker 3: She helped put away the fish, the smokehouse of the
Speaker 3: whole family deal. As she was wrapping up her visit,
Speaker 3: her grandma asked her if she would stick around for
Speaker 3: berry picking because some of the people were going to
Speaker 3: be meeting her to watch the kids if she was available.
Speaker 3: So she agreed because she had some time. Her grandma
Speaker 3: ended up having to go into town for a doctor's visit,
Speaker 3: and so basically she was roped into watching these other
Speaker 3: kids because grandma was going to be gone. The way
Speaker 3: it worked out, she was unhappy with it, but she
Speaker 3: liked her little cousin, so it was no big deal.
Speaker 3: As she made her arrangements to extend her stay out
Speaker 3: a couple weeks, one of the younger cousins asked her
Speaker 3: if they could go berry picking, and she was all
Speaker 3: for it. There was really not a whole lot of
Speaker 3: people in the village, and where her grandma's house was
Speaker 3: the furthest away from all the other buildings of the village.
Speaker 3: Very small village. She didn't want to share the name,
Speaker 3: still small to this day. The kids asked if they
Speaker 3: could go berry picking. She had no problem with it
Speaker 3: because wheeler trail went right by her grandma's place out
Speaker 3: onto the berry picking patch.
Speaker 4: She gathered them. She was eighteen.
Speaker 3: She always wanted to be a mom, so she really
Speaker 3: doated on the kids and really took the time to
Speaker 3: try to teach them what she knew about berry picking
Speaker 3: and the plants, and what berries not to pick when
Speaker 3: they're not ready, and just going through the whole bit.
Speaker 3: They got about a half mile away. They were not
Speaker 3: too far a lot of tundraut that way. There was
Speaker 3: like these little islands of black spruce here and there.
Speaker 3: They were near one of these islands of black spruce
Speaker 3: picking the berries, and she was teaching them how to
Speaker 3: put more in the bucket than in the mouth, so
Speaker 3: they had something show when they got home. So she
Speaker 3: was having a giggle with the kids, and one of
Speaker 3: the older ones of the three said, Hey, who's that
Speaker 3: man watching us. She immediately said, what man, because most
Speaker 3: adult males were on the river doing into season stuff,
Speaker 3: getting ready for hunting, stuff like that, so she was
Speaker 3: shocked to hear that there was actually someone an adult
Speaker 3: male around. She turned and looked at where he was pointing.
Speaker 3: In approximately she's guestmating about two hundred year yards. This
Speaker 3: kid was pointing at this figure standing in the trees.
Speaker 3: As soon as she looks up and seen it, it
Speaker 3: started moving just inside the tree line that she could see.
Speaker 3: It wasn't a very big group of trees, and she
Speaker 3: could see it moving at repositioned and squatted down looking
Speaker 3: back at them. Immediately, she felt sick her stomach and
Speaker 3: asked the kids to gather up their stuff quickly, that
Speaker 3: are are berry pickings done? They did that, and she's
Speaker 3: trying to keep the kids in front of her without
Speaker 3: freaking out. She grew up hearing Harryman stories and stuff.
Speaker 3: She was aware, but she didn't realize how real the
Speaker 3: stories were. Even though she'd heard her older uncles and
Speaker 3: stuff talking about seeing them before and this and that.
Speaker 3: She just always chalked it up to the way to
Speaker 3: control kids and keep them near home. That was her
Speaker 3: overall attitude about it initially, So she's hurrying the kids along,
Speaker 3: and again, they're about a half mile from the villa.
Speaker 3: She could see her grandma's house off in the distance,
Speaker 3: so they kept going. She saw What struck her about
Speaker 3: it is when she looked over it and saw it
Speaker 3: moved along the tree lur and it seemed like when
Speaker 3: it turned back to look at them as soon as
Speaker 3: it made eye contact with her and at that distance,
Speaker 3: because I asked, I was like, two hundred yards's pretty.
Speaker 3: Are you sure it was just not looking at your
Speaker 3: group or whatever? She goes, it looked me in the eye.
Speaker 3: I could feel it looking me in the eye, which
Speaker 3: is a creepy thought. But every time she walking the
Speaker 3: kids along, every time she turned around and look back
Speaker 3: at that group of trees, it was still right there.
Speaker 3: Until she got out of view of it. Just because
Speaker 3: of the lay of the land, there was a little
Speaker 3: bit of a rolling hill. She lost sight of it.
Speaker 3: So she's hurrying the kids along because she can no
Speaker 3: longer tell where it's at, and she's trying not to
Speaker 3: freak out and scare the kids, but making a game
Speaker 3: of it. Let's play race to Grandmas and whatnot. Just
Speaker 3: getting the kids moving, so she makes a game of it.
Speaker 3: The kids tick off running and as they're running along,
Speaker 3: she's keeping distance between her and the kids, so she
Speaker 3: could turn around and look every once in a while
Speaker 3: and then tell the kids, I'm gaing on you, you know,
Speaker 3: just to encourage them to run faster without scaring them.
Speaker 4: Make a game of it.
Speaker 3: So she said she was about half the distance back
Speaker 3: to her grandma's house, so within a quarter mile of
Speaker 3: her grandma's house, she felt something weird in the ground,
Speaker 3: so she said she stopped to turn and look back,
Speaker 3: and it was about half the distance from before, so
Speaker 3: about one hundred yards further back from where they just
Speaker 3: were running and playing. This thing was standing there, squatted down,
Speaker 3: almost like a football player. This movement its upper body
Speaker 3: kind of back and forth a little bit, sizing the
Speaker 3: situation up. So she's really freaking out. Encourages the kids
Speaker 3: to all out run. She grabbed one of the smaller ones,
Speaker 3: held it, grabbed the other second smallest one, and drag
Speaker 3: it along. Basically, poor kids, they didn't understand what was
Speaker 3: going on, but she was panic stricken and getting them
Speaker 3: really moving. And the oldest one was capable and was
Speaker 3: staying ahead of them as they ran. So she gets
Speaker 3: back to her grandma's house. She shuts and locks the
Speaker 3: windbreak door and then gets inside and shutting locks the
Speaker 3: inside door. She gets all the kids shuffled into the room.
Speaker 3: It's a two room cabin. The big main room is
Speaker 3: kitchen living room combined, and the second room is basically
Speaker 3: one big bedroom with three beds in it. She got
Speaker 3: the kids in there. There's two windows in there. They
Speaker 3: were up higher just above the ceiling, and down just
Speaker 3: I think she said there were two feet by four
Speaker 3: feet windows on each wall in the corner. She got
Speaker 3: the kids to play a game of hide and go
Speaker 3: seek and get under the bed. She's trying not to panic,
Speaker 3: but she gets the kids under the bed. She makes
Speaker 3: sure the curtains are drawn, and she goes back out
Speaker 3: into the living room area. Right next to the door
Speaker 3: is their shotgun for bears. She grabs at she makes
Speaker 3: sure it's loaded, and then she retreats herself back into
Speaker 3: the bedroom. She heard, or she felt the footsteps of
Speaker 3: this thing coming along. She jumped on the VHF radio
Speaker 3: real quick and made a call, Hey, so and so
Speaker 3: at Gram's house.
Speaker 4: Anyone around just dead? Quiet on the air.
Speaker 3: A few moments past and she hears movement outside, but
Speaker 3: she can't bring herself to look out the window because
Speaker 3: she's freaked out. She makes call again on a VHF radio,
Speaker 3: anyone around when I'm at my grandma's house, anyone around,
Speaker 3: basically making a call out to the village, and there
Speaker 3: was no response. She goes back into the bedroom with
Speaker 3: the kids and is trying to talk to them, discuss
Speaker 3: just random topics things to keep them calm because she
Speaker 3: was feeling herself freaking out. She's heard something brushing against
Speaker 3: the by the front door, by the windbreak area, and
Speaker 3: she was listening really close. And now that she's holding
Speaker 3: the shotgun, the kids are like, is there a bear?
Speaker 4: Is there a bear? Because that shotguns for bears.
Speaker 3: Kids are smart, and she goes, yes, there was a
Speaker 3: bear and it was following us, and I don't want
Speaker 3: it to come in, so be quiet, so listen to
Speaker 3: draw its attention to us. Kids all immediately get under
Speaker 3: the bed. All three kids are under the bed. She
Speaker 3: peeks out past the little curtain that divides the two rooms.
Speaker 3: She's looking out into the living area. She doesn't see anything,
Speaker 3: but she notices looking out the curtain off to her
Speaker 3: right hand side, which would be the kitchen side. She
Speaker 3: notices a shadow moving on the floor from the light
Speaker 3: coming in. That just told her that something's outside that window,
Speaker 3: moving back and forth. So she goes out of the bedroom,
Speaker 3: peeks around that corner, and by the time she got there,
Speaker 3: there was nothing in the window.
Speaker 4: Immediately turns looks past.
Speaker 3: The doorway to the window that was on the other
Speaker 3: side of the room, and there it was looking in
Speaker 3: at her. She said it had all black complexion, black
Speaker 3: beady eyes. She said the skin looked wrinkly, but she
Speaker 3: looked so quick and was so startled she didn't get
Speaker 3: a really good thorough look at it because this thing
Speaker 3: started growling. So she ran into that little room with
Speaker 3: the kids and slid under the bed with them, holding
Speaker 3: that shotgun pointing towards the opening between the two rooms,
Speaker 3: freaking out. She said the growling was so terrifying because
Speaker 3: everyone could feel it in the floor as they were
Speaker 3: laying on their bed. Ellie's this thing was growling last died.
Speaker 3: She said, she don't know how long, but she was
Speaker 3: trying to keep the kids from screaming because they were
Speaker 3: squealing every once in a while and as they were squealing,
Speaker 3: the growling, which she said, it didn't sound like it
Speaker 3: was moving from that one to almost like it found
Speaker 3: a place to look in at him, or something was
Speaker 3: trying to keep an eye out for him, is the
Speaker 3: feeling she got. After a little while passed, the kids
Speaker 3: were crying and stuff and really freaked out. She hears
Speaker 3: the VHF radio. It was one of her relatives that
Speaker 3: had a rover that was upriver started calling back to
Speaker 3: her saying, we heard you. We just weren't able to
Speaker 3: get enough signal to reach you, but we heard you.
Speaker 3: She stuck under that bed and all she could do
Speaker 3: is listen to this. So she built up all her courage,
Speaker 3: gets out from underneath the bed, slowly peeks out the window.
Speaker 3: She doesn't notice it out the window that she'd just
Speaker 3: seen it in a little while before. Grabs the VHF
Speaker 3: and says, there's a bear outside of Grandma's house.
Speaker 4: I need help.
Speaker 3: They said, we're on our way. However far away is
Speaker 3: going to be X amount of time day. Inside there's
Speaker 3: a shotgun all that stuff. She goes, I got the
Speaker 3: kids under the bed, I got the shotgun, and as
Speaker 3: she's on the VHF relaying this to one of her
Speaker 3: relatives there starts to thumping against the wall and it's
Speaker 3: a boom. I mean, it was shaking the whole place
Speaker 3: as she's just telling him, hey, I think it's trying
Speaker 3: to break in. It screamed outside. Blood crewing screamed. She
Speaker 3: said she felt it through her whole body. The kids
Speaker 3: shrieked and squealed underneath the bed and were crying real loud.
Speaker 3: She basically dropped the vhf's little hand mike and retreated
Speaker 3: under the bed with the kids.
Speaker 4: She said she sat there. She didn't even know how long.
Speaker 3: She ran in there so quick because she had the
Speaker 3: shotgun leaning against the wall by the VHF radio. She
Speaker 3: left it there on her retreat and was too scared
Speaker 3: to get up and go get that shotgun. They basically
Speaker 3: stayed there. It wasn't until she heard human voices outside.
Speaker 3: She doesn't remember exactly how much later because she was
Speaker 3: crying herself the banging on the door and them saying
Speaker 3: open up, open up, and she recognized the voices. So
Speaker 3: she got up, came out, grabbed the shotgun on her way,
Speaker 3: unlocked the doors and let them in. They were telling her, hey,
Speaker 3: we didn't see any sign of bear. There was a
Speaker 3: hairy man outside. What she saw was a hairy man,
Speaker 3: not a bear. She didn't want to say that in
Speaker 3: front of the kids. She didn't want to startle them
Speaker 3: or whatever. But now that the other adults came, they
Speaker 3: brought it up and so the kids were super freaked out.
Speaker 3: Nothing else happened during her trip there. She went back
Speaker 3: once since then, since she graduated college some years later.
Speaker 3: She said her grandma's house is no longer there. There's
Speaker 3: a few other homes that were what she would call
Speaker 3: landmarks of the village that are no longer there. There
Speaker 3: were some newer hut homes and stuff like that, but
Speaker 3: she hasn't been back since that one trip. I want
Speaker 3: to thank Tina for reaching out because it was hard
Speaker 3: for her. It was the first time she shared it.
Speaker 3: I thank her for coming forward. I wanted to share
Speaker 3: with you. Comes from We'll just we'll call them Caleb.
Speaker 4: Caleb.
Speaker 3: He just got back from an attempted moose hunt. It
Speaker 3: was an attempted hunt because of what I'm going to
Speaker 3: share with you. He got a hold of me night
Speaker 3: before last when he called me, he had just gotten
Speaker 3: in from this experience and was pretty freaked out. So
Speaker 3: I had him explain what happened, and I had him
Speaker 3: called back after he calmed down a little bit, just
Speaker 3: so he didn't glass over any details, because a lot
Speaker 3: of people will get caught up and not remember everything immediately.
Speaker 3: So after a couple of conversations he got back hold
Speaker 3: of me. Now what happened with Calebs is he borrowed
Speaker 3: his stepdad's four wheeler. He had been to the spot
Speaker 3: south of the Naley Highway once or twice, not far
Speaker 3: from Swede Lakes. It's a place of many encounters actually,
Speaker 3: so he went back in there and he went alone.
Speaker 3: He realized almost immediately the folly in that thought, that
Speaker 3: wind of thinking of I could do everything alone. He
Speaker 3: was a younger guy, and he fully admitted he took
Speaker 3: on more than he could chew alone.
Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to sea. We'll be
Speaker 1: right back after these messages.
Speaker 3: He drops down to the north fork of the Gulcana
Speaker 3: from that high ridge on the Sweet Lake side, which
Speaker 3: would be the north side of the north Ford. Once
Speaker 3: he gets down to the bottom that basically starts at
Speaker 3: shanty Town, he said there wasn't as many people there
Speaker 3: as he initially thought there was going to be. What
Speaker 3: he did is he crossed and started going out towards
Speaker 3: the Alphabets. Now, he said, once he came up onto
Speaker 3: the upper Plateau from the little valley there, this little
Speaker 3: upper plateau, you know, well basically the Alphabet Mountains, which
Speaker 3: are a series of really high buttes. And he gets
Speaker 3: up in there and he decides he's going to wheeler
Speaker 3: back up to one of these buttes camp at the
Speaker 3: bottom of it, because the last time he was there
Speaker 3: he saw activity as far as game in that area.
Speaker 3: He spotted a couple of bull moose from that perch,
Speaker 3: many Cariboo, and so he decided that's what he was
Speaker 3: going to do. He had it all figured out in
Speaker 3: his mind. So he gets back up in there. This
Speaker 3: is a journey that took multiple hours. It's not like
Speaker 3: he just unloaded and all of a sudden he was
Speaker 3: right there. No, it's quite a journey, multiple hours by
Speaker 3: four wheeler. The weather had been utter shit. He finally
Speaker 3: gets back up in there, he got himself a fire going.
Speaker 3: It was just after dark. Once he got basically set up,
Speaker 3: he was just using a little two man pop tent.
Speaker 3: He was going light, just get in and out was
Speaker 3: his thought process. So he goes to bed that night
Speaker 3: after eating and tending to the fire a little bit
Speaker 3: where he was. It wasn't raining horribly hard, so he
Speaker 3: tried to set up the fire.
Speaker 4: To where it would burn all night at.
Speaker 3: Least to have some embers in the morning to rekindle
Speaker 3: the fire easily instead of fighting.
Speaker 4: A bunch of wet wood. So he went to sleep.
Speaker 3: He said, he doesn't know what time it was exactly
Speaker 3: when he first heard the initial noise that woke him up.
Speaker 3: He said it sounded like something big walking along the
Speaker 3: rocks near where he was, and it immediately woke him
Speaker 3: up because he was scared of bears. He sits up
Speaker 3: and he listens, and he tries to figure out what
Speaker 3: exactly he's hearing. So as he's sitting there thinking about
Speaker 3: it and trying to listen, he decides he grabs his flashlight.
Speaker 3: He's using a seven millimeter mag He unzips a tent
Speaker 3: and goes out and starts beaming around. Doesn't see anything
Speaker 3: now when he steps out of the front of the tent.
Speaker 3: To his immediate right is the beginnings of this basically
Speaker 3: sheer drop from it's actually a wall beside him of rock,
Speaker 3: and to his left it drops down little steps like
Speaker 3: a declining rise, down to the alders and willows. So
Speaker 3: he looks off to the left. He sees nothing at first,
Speaker 3: and he's panning back and forth, and he could.
Speaker 4: Hear a real low grunting. He said.
Speaker 3: The grunting reminded him almost like an elk when it
Speaker 3: initially gets startled. But we don't have any elk cup here,
Speaker 3: at least not in that area.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I know there's some of the Roosevelt heard down southeast
Speaker 3: and whatnot, and some over by a Kodiak on Raspberry
Speaker 3: Island or whatever, none up here. So he's confused and
Speaker 3: he doesn't know what to make of it. So he figures, Okay,
Speaker 3: it must be a moose sound I've never heard. They're
Speaker 3: going into the rut. That's probably something along those lines.
Speaker 3: So he just he looks around a little bit. All right,
Speaker 3: you know what, I'm gonna rekindle this fire. Since i'm
Speaker 3: up anyway, I can get an earlier start than what
Speaker 3: I was going to. So he gets a fire going,
Speaker 3: gets it nice and bright, and he's warming up some
Speaker 3: coffee and doing some various things getting ready. He has
Speaker 3: his rifle laying on the rear rack of the four wheeler,
Speaker 3: which is five feet from the fire, and as he's
Speaker 3: sitting there, he's resting, leaning back against the rack. He
Speaker 3: didn't want to hunt for his stump to sit on
Speaker 3: that he had put behind the tent under some tarps
Speaker 3: so didn't get wet. As he was sitting there, just
Speaker 3: leaning against the rack and just be yawn and stretching,
Speaker 3: sipping on some coffee, he hears this grunt again. So
Speaker 3: he had his flashlight right beside him. He just immediately
Speaker 3: turns it on and starts beaming around, and initially he
Speaker 3: catches a little bit of eyeshine, and he said it
Speaker 3: was just the slightest, almost like as soon as.
Speaker 4: The light hit the eye, it shielded its view.
Speaker 3: He thought that was weird because typically you'd be him
Speaker 3: a moose or anything like that, we'll just look at you.
Speaker 3: But again he just chalked it up to a moose
Speaker 3: turning its head when he turned on the light. Now
Speaker 3: he goes back over the fire and he's stoking the fire,
Speaker 3: and he said, as he took about the second step
Speaker 3: from the wheeler and was just leaning over to add
Speaker 3: a piece of wood, he heard a.
Speaker 4: Very low, guttural growl.
Speaker 3: He said that the rocks he was standing on they
Speaker 3: were broken up and stuff almost shale light. He said
Speaker 3: he felt the growl in his feet when he felt
Speaker 3: that growl, he said, it was barely audible, but you
Speaker 3: could feel it. And so immediately he plunges back, grabs
Speaker 3: a hold of his rifle off the rear rack, and
Speaker 3: he starts beaming around again. This time he sees the
Speaker 3: eye shine again, but about fifty yards further away and
Speaker 3: just at the edge of the realistic use of his beam.
Speaker 3: The lumens of his beam didn't have enough candela to
Speaker 3: penetrate the darkness enough to make out anything other than
Speaker 3: some eye shine. However, he did say that the eye
Speaker 3: shine was big. It was pretty wide set as far
Speaker 3: as the eyes. Again, it was at a distance. He
Speaker 3: couldn't say for sure how many inches of eyes were apart,
Speaker 3: but he knew he could tell it was large. He
Speaker 3: didn't realize how large until he got a little lighter,
Speaker 3: And I'll explain that. So he's holding the rifle in
Speaker 3: the flashlight and he's yelling out, hey, hunter over here.
Speaker 3: He didn't know what he was dealing with, so in
Speaker 3: case it was another hunter coming through, he was just
Speaker 3: making it obvious like it wasn't. I mean, in his words,
Speaker 3: he had a tent, a fire, and a wheeler right there.
Speaker 3: Any other human would have recognize that and at least
Speaker 3: answered back nothing. The eye shine goes away, he hears
Speaker 3: some movement, just sits there and waits and kills the flashlight.
Speaker 3: Keeps his back to the fire, and he's trying to
Speaker 3: acclimate his eyes to night vision better overall night vision,
Speaker 3: or at least low light vision. And as his eyes
Speaker 3: are adjusting, he hears movement, but it doesn't come in.
Speaker 3: It's at a distance. Always at a distance, he said,
Speaker 3: but it seemed to be the same distance, roughly fifty yards.
Speaker 3: As Caleb is sitting there pondering what he's gonna do,
Speaker 3: he keeps calling out periodically.
Speaker 4: Hey, who's there hunter over here?
Speaker 3: And he doesn't want to continue doing this because he
Speaker 3: wants to be ready, bright and early to potentially bag
Speaker 3: a moose that morning. And if he's sitting there yamoring
Speaker 3: and Jack and his jaw all night, it's gonna alert
Speaker 3: all the game around. Hey, there's a human over there,
Speaker 3: So he quiets down after a little bit and he decides,
Speaker 3: maybe I'm just gonna do my breakfast in the pouch thing,
Speaker 3: little Mr type deal, and then just pack up and
Speaker 3: do my hunt and get out of here.
Speaker 4: So he's doing his little Mr.
Speaker 3: E meail and he's eating it up on one of
Speaker 3: those stero burners. He's getting it all prepared and everything,
Speaker 3: and as he's dropping this stuff into his little pot,
Speaker 3: he's realizing that there's a smell and he thought it
Speaker 3: was like a bad It actually wasn't an MRI.
Speaker 4: I apologize.
Speaker 3: It was one of those freeze dried meals, So he
Speaker 3: thought it was something wrong with the meal, the prepackaged
Speaker 3: freeze dried meal. Because of the weird smell he was
Speaker 3: dealing with. He was like, gosh that and kept smelling
Speaker 3: it and it smelled fine, but then when he pulled
Speaker 3: his head away, he'd smell that odor. So he lets
Speaker 3: it do its thing, and he starts paying attention to
Speaker 3: the sounds because he was a little bit distracted getting
Speaker 3: breakfast going or whatever.
Speaker 4: So as he's sitting.
Speaker 3: There, he hears that low rumbling growl again, and this
Speaker 3: time it's a lot closer, he said, by time he
Speaker 3: could turn around and grab the flashlight off the ground.
Speaker 3: He heard three steps almost, he said. It had to
Speaker 3: have been within ten yards of him, and he should
Speaker 3: have been able to see whatever it was by how
Speaker 3: loud and how he felt the thumps in the ground. Meanwhile,
Speaker 3: this is simultaneous with that growl, he said. The growl
Speaker 3: continued as he backed up, turned on the flashlight and
Speaker 3: is wielding his rifle.
Speaker 4: He sees nothing.
Speaker 3: He backs off a little bit more because he's got
Speaker 3: that wall behind him, that sheer face of a cliff
Speaker 3: wall behind him. He's trying to determine what's coming near me,
Speaker 3: What is this thing doing?
Speaker 4: What is it?
Speaker 3: As he's doing so, his flashlight is starting to crap
Speaker 3: out on him. He needs to change the batteries, and
Speaker 3: now his night vision has been compromised by the flashlight
Speaker 3: being brighter than the fire because he had let the
Speaker 3: fire start to die down because he was going to
Speaker 3: be leaving soon and just use his little burner to
Speaker 3: heat up his meal. So now he's a crap. Let
Speaker 3: me get these batteries changed. So he's got the rifle
Speaker 3: across his lap and he's trying to put in new batteries.
Speaker 3: He had first time he put one in upside down
Speaker 3: and had to fix it. Meanwhile, while he's fumbling and
Speaker 3: jumbling around, he hears this thing a little further away
Speaker 3: than what was initially the steps that went by with
Speaker 3: the growley, and he turns on the flashlight and he's
Speaker 3: not seeing anything. His heart, rated, he said, is jacked.
Speaker 3: Caleb's in his mid twenties, he's outdoorsman. He's been jogging,
Speaker 3: running all that stuff. So he could feel his blood
Speaker 3: pressure in his eyes. From what he said, he could
Speaker 3: feel his heart beat in his eyes. His heart was
Speaker 3: pounding so hard. As he's beaming around, he catches a
Speaker 3: glint of the eye shine again about thirty yards away,
Speaker 3: off to his left hand side. Now, as he's looking
Speaker 3: at this eye shine, all of a sudden, this hllacious, loud,
Speaker 3: very high pitched. It was almost as high pitched as
Speaker 3: a tea kettle whistling, just super high pitched womanlike scream
Speaker 3: coming right at him. He said it was so loud
Speaker 3: it hurt his ears so much so that he found
Speaker 3: himself trying to turn his head and put in one
Speaker 3: hand over his ear, trying to cut that ear and
Speaker 3: block it from the piercing noise. And as soon as
Speaker 3: that scream stopped, he said it lasted about twenty to
Speaker 3: twenty two seconds ish, something like that. As soon as
Speaker 3: that stopped, he heard the footsteps again, don't, don't, and
Speaker 3: they were going away. He beams the light in that
Speaker 3: direction and notices a dark silhouette off in the distance
Speaker 3: moving away. So he finishes what he's doing. He's no
Speaker 3: longer hungry. He just dumps the meal out on the
Speaker 3: ground and gets the pot clean, shuts off the burner,
Speaker 3: starts letting it cool off, and he's slowly packing the stuff,
Speaker 3: keeping his eyes in the direction of that noise the
Speaker 3: silhouette he saw. Gets everything packed up, and very quickly
Speaker 3: he rolled his tent up bungee corded around it. He
Speaker 3: didn't give a crap if it was packed right or not.
Speaker 3: Was latching everything down to the four wheeler real fast. Meanwhile,
Speaker 3: when he was going back and forth grabbing again, he
Speaker 3: went really light, so it's not like he had a
Speaker 3: whole crap ton to load up. But when he was
Speaker 3: going back and forth, each time he would kick more
Speaker 3: rocks and dirt on his fire to make sure it
Speaker 3: was getting smothered. He goes back over to the wheeler.
Speaker 3: He's got the rifle in his lap, and he fires
Speaker 3: up the wheeler, getting ready to leave. And it's at
Speaker 3: this point where he said, starting to get light on
Speaker 3: the horizon. That light on the horizon made him calm
Speaker 3: down a little bit because he really didn't want a
Speaker 3: wheeler in the dark out of there, So he said
Speaker 3: he sat still and waited on daylight. And once it
Speaker 3: got daylight enough for him to easily see the trail,
Speaker 3: but the trees were still silhouetted, he started his journey
Speaker 3: out of there, he said, when he was going down
Speaker 3: the trail, backtracking the way he came up, because he
Speaker 3: basically had to make his own trail from a lower
Speaker 3: trail to get up to that little rise, he said
Speaker 3: it was when he was going down that he had
Speaker 3: his rifle in a gun holder on the front rack
Speaker 3: of the wheeler. As he was going down, he noticed
Speaker 3: something dark cross the trail in front of him, just
Speaker 3: out of the way of the little headlights on the
Speaker 3: four wheeler. He said, the headlights he had on it
Speaker 3: were crap, they barely worked, but he saw enough to
Speaker 3: see this dark thing cross the trail, so immediately he
Speaker 3: breaks he turns on his flashlight. He's beaming around and
Speaker 3: he sees nothing, so he's got his rifle out of
Speaker 3: the rack. He's just sitting there, staring around into the
Speaker 3: darkness with the flashlight holding the rifle, looking for any movement,
Speaker 3: any sound of noise.
Speaker 4: Nothing.
Speaker 3: He sits down and continues to drive slow with one
Speaker 3: hand holding the rifle. It's a hard thing to do.
Speaker 3: He was freaking out. He wasn't sure what the hell
Speaker 3: was going on just yet. He'd been dealing with the
Speaker 3: high pitch scream. He'd been dealing with the noises of
Speaker 3: the grunts, the groans, the growls, the sounds of the footsteps.
Speaker 3: So he's really out of his element when he's dealing
Speaker 3: with this stuff. He also said that that smell that
Speaker 3: he initially smelled had not stopped. It continued from when
Speaker 3: he was trying to make his meal. Taffrey dumped it
Speaker 3: out when he was getting everything going to get out
Speaker 3: of there. The smell, he said, was almost like it
Speaker 3: was following him. The smell itself was following him, like
Speaker 3: it stuck to him or something. He got down to
Speaker 3: the bottom of that trail where he had broken off
Speaker 3: from a lower trail, and he led a shot off
Speaker 3: in the air boom, just to make it known that
Speaker 3: he had no sooner he did that. He said, about
Speaker 3: sixty yards away, he heard thrashing running through the brush
Speaker 3: like it was coming towards him. So immediately he racks
Speaker 3: another round in the rifle and points the flashlight in
Speaker 3: that direction. And he said, when he beamed in that direction,
Speaker 3: the movement coming towards him stopped. He's beaming over there.
Speaker 3: All of a sudden, the thing stood up and was
Speaker 3: looking at him, and he said, he just came through
Speaker 3: that brush, and he knew that brush was over his
Speaker 3: head by at least almost a foot. He was riding
Speaker 3: on the back of the wheeler at another foot of that.
Speaker 3: So roughly the brush was about six foot tall. That's
Speaker 3: a rough guestimation. It's an approximate, it's not an exact,
Speaker 3: but this thing was three to four foot taller than that,
Speaker 3: looking at him, and he said it looked like it
Speaker 3: was a brownish black color, kind of grizzled, but he
Speaker 3: couldn't make out the face. All he could see was
Speaker 3: the eye shine.
Speaker 4: He said.
Speaker 3: The eye shine seemed to fluctuate between green and then red,
Speaker 3: which is odd normally, as one color or another but
Speaker 3: this seemed to fluctuate between green and red. And he's
Speaker 3: just staring and he's not knowing what to do. He's
Speaker 3: stuck in shock as he's beaming at this thing. He
Speaker 3: has the rifle, but he doesn't want to shoot, and
Speaker 3: this thing lets out another scream. He couldn't make out
Speaker 3: exactly what the teeth looked like. He could just tell
Speaker 3: it it was showing its teeth. But what it had
Speaker 3: done was open its mouth real, real wide. He said,
Speaker 3: it looked like it disfigured its face when it opened
Speaker 3: its mouth to let out that high pitched scream again.
Speaker 3: He said, when it let out the high pitched scream,
Speaker 3: he immediately shot in the air again. And once he
Speaker 3: did that, he said, it dropped out of sight into
Speaker 3: the alders in the willows, and he heard it thrashing
Speaker 3: and running away. And he said, once he heard it
Speaker 3: get to a satisfied distance for him to not focus
Speaker 3: on it, he turned around and hauled asked as quick
Speaker 3: as he could, as safely as he could out of there.
Speaker 3: He went back around, dropped back down towards the north
Speaker 3: fork of the Vulcana, and when he got down there
Speaker 3: by where the shantytown was starting. He asked a couple
Speaker 3: of people that were up and moving if they had
Speaker 3: heard the scream, and they said, yeah, they heard the scream.
Speaker 3: He just continued and made his way out of there,
Speaker 3: and that was basically the end of what he dealt with.
Speaker 3: He asked me to ask anyone listening, if you were
Speaker 3: out that way and heard those screams, if you could
Speaker 3: contact me and I could put you in contact with Caleb.
Speaker 3: He would like to talk to you about the area
Speaker 3: and what he dealt with. That's what Caleb dealt with.
Speaker 3: He had a visual sighting this thing was within one
Speaker 3: hundred yards, his face deforming when it opened its mouth
Speaker 3: really wide. He said, was creepier than the scream, because
Speaker 3: he said it almost looked like his face was imploding
Speaker 3: as that its mouth got wider. He said, it was
Speaker 3: the damnedest thing. So I want to thank Caleb for
Speaker 3: reaching out. He was still really freaked out when he
Speaker 3: called me. The hunters, beware, beware, while you're out there.
Speaker 4: You never know.
Speaker 3: It's so random in nature. Out of all the hunters
Speaker 3: out there, knows how many others had to deal with
Speaker 3: what Caleb did, But just be aware. I had to
Speaker 3: get to a quieter place up there by the little
Speaker 3: Susittina River, who was really loud with the rushing water
Speaker 3: and stuff.
Speaker 4: Absolutely beautiful.
Speaker 3: Just a great I want to share with you today
Speaker 3: comes from Simeon. Him and his wife. They were on
Speaker 3: the Susitna River. This was just days ago. He doesn't
Speaker 3: remember exactly where, but it would be upriver from Desk
Speaker 3: and all those places.
Speaker 4: He said.
Speaker 3: There wasn't any cabins around for a while where they
Speaker 3: were going. They were basically sightseeing with some relatives. So
Speaker 3: what had happened was the salmon weren't really running at
Speaker 3: this time. This was gosh, not quite a couple of
Speaker 3: weeks ago, so they were basically sightseeing and they banked
Speaker 3: on this part of the river and it looked like
Speaker 3: a well used trail that they assumed it was people using.
Speaker 3: And then once they got up there, they saw some
Speaker 3: bear tracks and some other animal tracks. So Simeon retrieved
Speaker 3: the firearm from the skiff. Their relatives were sitting there,
Speaker 3: they were getting ready to eat lunch. They just sat
Speaker 3: in a skifty launch while him and his wife went
Speaker 3: and explored this game trail a little bit. They were
Speaker 3: walking what he said was approximately due west along this trail.
Speaker 3: Initially he said it was open grassy area with the
Speaker 3: game show cutting right through it back into some black
Speaker 3: spruce and some willow alders. They got back through into
Speaker 3: the trees, and they told their relatives they wouldn't go
Speaker 3: very far. Simeon had a twelve gage. He slung it
Speaker 3: over his shoulder.
Speaker 4: His wife was walking in.
Speaker 3: Front of him so he could have eyes on her
Speaker 3: at all times. They pre arranged she would duck if
Speaker 3: a bear was coming or something, so she wasn't in
Speaker 3: a line of fire. All that kind of stuff they
Speaker 3: had pre planned. They're cutting through this trail. It's cutting
Speaker 3: back and forth in between the black spruce, so essentially
Speaker 3: they didn't have a wide open view in front of
Speaker 3: them because the trail was just cutting back and forth,
Speaker 3: had a zigzag to it as they were going through.
Speaker 3: You know, it's a stick brush up against him that
Speaker 3: didn't quite match the surrounding area, but he thought none
Speaker 3: of it. They keep going as they're going around, coming
Speaker 3: into another clearing, he knows of what appeared to be
Speaker 3: the same stick brushing against him again, which he freely
Speaker 3: admits that he was not on top of his game
Speaker 3: as far as paying attention to his surroundings. He was
Speaker 3: watching the trail because there's a lot of exposed roots,
Speaker 3: and he was stumbling and tripping a little bit. The
Speaker 3: second time he sees what he thought was the identical stick.
Speaker 3: He turns it looks and he sees nothing. There's a
Speaker 3: lot of thick brush. He couldn't really make out anything.
Speaker 3: He didn't see the stick that just brushed against him,
Speaker 3: and thought it was weird and left it alone. Him
Speaker 3: and his wife continued out into this clearing, which is
Speaker 3: an area of muskeg. They're sitting there talking for a
Speaker 3: little bit. His wife was looking around basically was like,
Speaker 3: this is pretty and it's interesting.
Speaker 4: I'm hungry.
Speaker 3: Let's go back to the skiff. So they're on this
Speaker 3: trail back out and this trail is approximately one hundred
Speaker 3: yards and it's all zig zagging through this black spruce
Speaker 3: and little al there's lining the trail. He said it
Speaker 3: was really tight up against him. A couple of spots
Speaker 3: he had to turn sideways to get through there. And
Speaker 3: I know exactly the train he's talking about. As they're
Speaker 3: going back through. As they're going through this time, that
Speaker 3: same stick brushed against him again on his right hand side,
Speaker 3: so going in it was on his left. Coming out,
Speaker 3: it brushed him on his right hand side.
Speaker 4: He was what the hell?
Speaker 3: So he stops and he gets his wife's attention, and
Speaker 3: she asked her, hey, you notice did he get brushed
Speaker 3: with a stick that doesn't seem.
Speaker 4: To be there? And they're both confused.
Speaker 3: She said, yeah, a couple times on the way in,
Speaker 3: and then again just a minute ago passing through the
Speaker 3: same area. So they stopped and he unslings the shotgun
Speaker 3: because everything was quiet, and so after he unslings the shotgun,
Speaker 3: he said he was trying to look through the trees
Speaker 3: and it was so dense with vegetation he couldn't really
Speaker 3: make anything out. And as he's looking back and forth,
Speaker 3: his wife gets hit with a pine cone. Now, she
Speaker 3: was looking up when he turned back to look at her,
Speaker 3: and she's looking up for where the pinecone came from,
Speaker 3: and there was none on these particular spruce trees, and
Speaker 3: so she was like, did you throw a pine cone
Speaker 3: at me? And he said no, and.
Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see, we'll be
Speaker 1: right back after these messages.
Speaker 3: And as they're talking looking at each other, she gets
Speaker 3: hit right here centered chest with another pine cone that
Speaker 3: appeared to come from over Simeon's head. So she was
Speaker 3: looking at Simeon and her eyes got big, and so
Speaker 3: he turns around to see what she's seeing, and about
Speaker 3: fifteen feet behind them, the trail is zigzag, so it's
Speaker 3: on a dipper portion of the trail, but there's trees
Speaker 3: obscuring the trail that you know in a direct gliding sight,
Speaker 3: and they see this thing. All they could see is
Speaker 3: pitch black, dark silhouette standing there, and it moved. Simeon said,
Speaker 3: it moved from his right to left and they couldn't
Speaker 3: see it anymore, and immediately they turned around and started
Speaker 3: high tailing it through the black spruce trail that they
Speaker 3: were on. He said, when they got to where it
Speaker 3: opened back up into the grassy area of the sawgrass
Speaker 3: next to the river, and it was a straight shot
Speaker 3: to the skiff, he stopped and turned around because he
Speaker 3: could hear movement behind him going back and forth. They
Speaker 3: couldn't run really fast because it was really tight zigzags
Speaker 3: getting through there because the vegetation was so dense, and
Speaker 3: of course the tree roots and all that. It's a
Speaker 3: paint in the ass and they're jacked up on adrenaline.
Speaker 3: So when he gets to the clearing, his wife continues.
Speaker 3: He turns around because he had been hearing the crossing
Speaker 3: of the trail back behind him several times, crashing and breaking.
Speaker 3: He heard a couple grunts, so he turns around, and
Speaker 3: he said immediately he was too scared to lip that
Speaker 3: shotgun because this thing was the same fifteen feet away,
Speaker 3: just inside. It didn't quite break free of the tree line.
Speaker 3: It was just inside, obscured partially by another black spruce tree.
Speaker 3: He said the fact that he saw it stop moving
Speaker 3: was the only reason he knows noticed it. He said
Speaker 3: it was so seamlessly camouflage into its surroundings because of it,
Speaker 3: he said, when he got a better look at it,
Speaker 3: with more daylight on it, he said he could tell
Speaker 3: it had grizzled hair, like that grizzled color where you
Speaker 3: got a mixture of black, white, brown, gray, you know
Speaker 3: that kind of stuff, So it blended in seamlessly. He
Speaker 3: equated it similarly to a spruce chicken or a spruce grasp.
Speaker 3: So he's looking right at it, he said, he could
Speaker 3: see the face, but it was almost like a tanned leather,
Speaker 3: a dark tanned leather looked to it. He couldn't make
Speaker 3: out a whole lot of detail because he said he
Speaker 3: was freaking out. He said, there's no hair around the eyes,
Speaker 3: in the nose area, and around the mouth. He said,
Speaker 3: what really stood out to him is the look in
Speaker 3: this thing's eyes. He said that the eyes were black,
Speaker 3: but there was a glimmer to them from the daylight.
Speaker 3: Light in the eyes, so to speak. He said he
Speaker 3: wasn't quite sure what its intention was, but he didn't
Speaker 3: feel like it was anything good. I asked him, how
Speaker 3: tall do you think it was? Simeon was not good
Speaker 3: with sizes, so he said it could have been anywhere
Speaker 3: from eight to ten foot tall, maybe a little taller,
Speaker 3: but he wasn't really good about that. As he's sitting
Speaker 3: here staring at this thing in eye contempt, he said,
Speaker 3: it it was like slow motion. It seemed like it
Speaker 3: was taking forever for this to happen. His wife had
Speaker 3: already made it back to the skiff, screaming for help
Speaker 3: from their other relatives. They had three other people on
Speaker 3: the skiff, two males won female. They didn't want to
Speaker 3: give names of the people, and Simeon didn't want to share.
Speaker 4: His wife's name. We'll just leave that aloone.
Speaker 3: But one of the males grabbed their gun and came
Speaker 3: running back up to trail, and Simeon could hear the
Speaker 3: approach from behind as he's got his eyes fixed on
Speaker 3: this thing. The person running up behind him came and
Speaker 3: got off of his left shoulder and is looking at
Speaker 3: it too, And that's when the thing got aggressive, broke
Speaker 3: the tree that it was standing next to and flung
Speaker 3: it over their heads past them like a warning, don't
Speaker 3: be rushing me mode or vibe. It put off and
Speaker 3: it's looked at them both sized and bolt up and
Speaker 3: just made a grunt sound and then just backed away
Speaker 3: from them, almost like it was floating, he said. And
Speaker 3: then it just moved off into the brush and just
Speaker 3: immediately disappeared because of its coloring. Then they turned around
Speaker 3: once it was out of you, and they I tell
Speaker 3: them back to the skiff and they got out of
Speaker 3: there again. This just happened a little over a week ago,
Speaker 3: something like that. I've only had a chance to talk
Speaker 3: to him a couple times, seeming. If you're watching this
Speaker 3: and I left anything out, I don't believe I did.
Speaker 3: Because of all the other stuff we talked about as
Speaker 3: far as the skip riding and stuff. You know, as
Speaker 3: we talked about, it doesn't pertain to the actual encounter.
Speaker 3: So they retreat out of there. They get back to
Speaker 3: the skiff. The others in the skiff not to laugh,
Speaker 3: because me and Simmy laughed about it too. They had
Speaker 3: already untied from the shore and they were idling in
Speaker 3: the channel. So they get Today's and they're like, hey,
Speaker 3: you know, get back over here or whatever, and so
Speaker 3: they pull back up and they jump on. Simeon's wife
Speaker 3: is just going on about what the hell, what the
Speaker 3: hell was that thing. Once they were in the skip
Speaker 3: and they were taking off back down river, they got
Speaker 3: to a little sandbar place. Simeon had his relative beach
Speaker 3: up on that sandbar or gravel bar just to catch
Speaker 3: his breath and tell everyone what happened and explain to
Speaker 3: it to everybody. And he explained to them about the
Speaker 3: harry Man, and he thought it was just folklore from
Speaker 3: the past and just a way to keep control over
Speaker 3: kids and women found out differently that day. He like
Speaker 3: a lot of people are now on our journey to
Speaker 3: figure out more, which is understandable. There's so many unanswered
Speaker 3: questions and so many theories out there, damn good theories.
Speaker 3: But until we have something a little more solid, it's
Speaker 3: going to be very difficult. I'm going to thank Simeon
Speaker 3: for reaching out. He didn't really want to share because
Speaker 3: he didn't think there was much to it, But I mean,
Speaker 3: there's plenty to it. This thing was using a stick
Speaker 3: to brush against them to get their attention, which is odd.
Speaker 3: Normally you would hear that there'd be an aggressive making
Speaker 3: noises to alert the people coming to scare them out
Speaker 3: of the area. And just the fact that it was
Speaker 3: using a stick to kind of mess with them, it's
Speaker 3: contriguing in itself. Was it being playful? I had no
Speaker 3: clue me personally, I don't trust these things for nothing.
Speaker 3: I asked him, did you feel like shooting? He said,
Speaker 3: I had slugs in the shotgun and I did not
Speaker 3: feel I will do enough with it in order to
Speaker 3: make it worthwhile.
Speaker 4: What's this fair enough?
Speaker 3: I've talked to people holding three thirty eight when mags
Speaker 3: that they wouldn't even contemplate clicking the safety off, So
Speaker 3: I get it. I'm gonna thank Simeon. I'm wanna thank
Speaker 3: his wife. She gave me her perspective on the thing,
Speaker 3: but it's identical to Simeon's outside of when she was
Speaker 3: looking past him. It seemed like the thing just purposely
Speaker 3: came right into view over his shoulder to where they
Speaker 3: made eye contact as she gave the same description Vacimia said.
Speaker 3: The eyes were black and beady, wide set. The nose
Speaker 3: was flat to the face again that dark tan leathered look.
Speaker 3: The hair wasn't around the actual face. In the mouth area,
Speaker 3: it looked like it had a protruding mouth. He was
Speaker 3: just giving the description again. I want to thank him.
Speaker 3: I want to thank you guys for joining me. We'll
Speaker 3: catch you guys on the next one.
Speaker 6: They say you don't gotta go home, but you can't stay.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be. We're all out there.
Speaker 5: Chod, this chid, that child.
Speaker 6: Everything came right back, right back, Joy for me.
Speaker 5: Joy staying right. You come it right away, still step
Speaker 5: step steps.
Speaker 6: Down, knocking down dots, still STASSSS
Speaker 5: Used THESS