Speaker 1: Hello, this is Martin Willis. I'm your host and we
Speaker 1: have our guest. Tonight's our second NASA person, second live
Speaker 1: show for the evening. I'm pretty excited to have Greg Martins.
Speaker 1: He's an award winning author, intuitive and retired aerospace engineer.
Speaker 1: He spent thirty five years at NASA's Guarded Space Flight Center.
Speaker 1: I was actually there visiting and I did see when
Speaker 1: the web telescope was being created. It was pretty It
Speaker 1: was actually quite fascinating. So during Greg's career he worked
Speaker 1: on Space Shuttle payloads and satellite systems, including the Lunar
Speaker 1: Reconnaissance Orbiter. Alongside that highly technical work, he privately explored meditation,
Speaker 1: remote viewing, astro travel, and all kinds of interesting things.
Speaker 1: His book Star Journey Home, Connect with Your Home Planet
Speaker 1: and Over Seoul brings those seemingly different worlds together. Greg,
Speaker 1: Welcome to podcast UFO and I'll bring you in right now.
Speaker 2: Welcome, Thank you, glad to be here.
Speaker 1: So good to have you second NASA person for the night.
Speaker 1: I'm honored by that. So, yeah, did you follow when
Speaker 1: they were looking into the UAP topic? Do you follow
Speaker 1: any of that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, the release of the files on the Trump you're
Speaker 2: talking about.
Speaker 1: No, I'm when actually NASA got involved and that was
Speaker 1: my last guest. He was involved in that task force
Speaker 1: that was supposed to be looking into UFO. See some
Speaker 1: of the things didn't exactly go the way he was hoping.
Speaker 1: So just saying hello, right everyone in chat, thank you
Speaker 1: for being here. Yeah, sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not familiar with the ones that NASA would
Speaker 2: have been directly looking at.
Speaker 1: So what was it like working for NASA and did
Speaker 1: you ever have any water cooler talk about the possibility
Speaker 1: of extraterrestrials.
Speaker 2: Working at NASA. Godard at Space Flight Center was my
Speaker 2: dream job and I landed it during my senior year
Speaker 2: in college. I was awarded an internship there from the
Speaker 2: mechanical engineering branch so at that time that was nineteen
Speaker 2: eighty three and a Space Shuttle program which is coming online.
Speaker 2: So I got to work on sounding rockets and payloads
Speaker 2: that would put in the Space Shuttle to hold experiments.
Speaker 2: And then I moved on to work on space satellites
Speaker 2: that would be Earth orbiting or would go to the
Speaker 2: Moon or two of the Sun in my later years
Speaker 2: at NASA. So my thirty five years at Godard Space
Speaker 2: Flight Center was amazing. I had an amazing career, was
Speaker 2: my dream job, so amazing people there, really good group
Speaker 2: to work with, very professional.
Speaker 1: Yes, I had a friend he's passed away since, but
Speaker 1: he was a longtime UFO researcher, Ray Stanford, and his
Speaker 1: wife was working at Godard, so we visited over there,
Speaker 1: and I couldn't believe when I was watching all those
Speaker 1: guys dressed in their environmental white suits, very clean room
Speaker 1: and where they were working on the telescope. And I
Speaker 1: took a bunch of pictures. That was really great being there,
Speaker 1: and I met someone that was actually very interested in
Speaker 1: the UFO topic.
Speaker 2: That was a long time.
Speaker 1: He'd been there for over thirty years, so that was fun.
Speaker 2: And Martin, you did ask a question about water cooler,
Speaker 2: talk about it. You have both books of Terrestrials. I
Speaker 2: did have conversations like that with a few, just a
Speaker 2: few people at NASA Goddard that believed in that kind
Speaker 2: of thing and that worked in the metaphysical realm as well.
Speaker 2: So there was no talk about down UFOs and Area
Speaker 2: fifty one and was in a NASA employee working on
Speaker 2: anything to do with UFOs, and that conversation never came up.
Speaker 2: So if any employees at Goddard we're working on extraterrestrial
Speaker 2: stuff or extraterrestrial rocks, that maybe that came from Mars.
Speaker 2: We didn't hear about it.
Speaker 1: Okay, So you were working in an environment built around engineering,
Speaker 1: evidence and precision. How did you reconcile that with the
Speaker 1: experiences involving intuition and consciousness?
Speaker 2: Martin? I never had a conflict with it. I started
Speaker 2: my exploration of consciousness and the human energy field and
Speaker 2: dreams at the Sleeping Dreams and UFOs all in high school.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's where it all began. I was heavily
Speaker 2: into it when I was seventeen and eighteen, and I
Speaker 2: was very interested in working at Nasagard and Space Flight Center.
Speaker 2: At that time, that was my goal, and I figured
Speaker 2: I'd go to college and then I try to become
Speaker 2: an astronaut. And I changed my mind during college, but
Speaker 2: I did manage to get a job at Goddard, and
Speaker 2: I didn't see a conflict between the idea of higher
Speaker 2: consciousness and other dimensions and UFOs and ETS. I didn't
Speaker 2: see a conflict between that and engineering and science. To me,
Speaker 2: it was all kind of one of the same you
Speaker 2: just got to explore it.
Speaker 1: I see, So I guess I want to ask you
Speaker 1: how did your journey go through what you got involved
Speaker 1: in later, But actually before that, I do want to
Speaker 1: mention something about consciousness because I don't really understand consciousness.
Speaker 1: And also a lot of people are saying that the UFO,
Speaker 1: like summoning and people that see UFOs, it has to
Speaker 1: do with the conscience, and I don't really get that,
Speaker 1: especially when it comes to the public siting where there's
Speaker 1: many witnesses and things like that. But I just want
Speaker 1: to know, how do you feel there's a connection there,
Speaker 1: or try to explain it to me because I can't
Speaker 1: really understand it.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's say we're walking through the woods and we're
Speaker 2: in a peaceful state. Sometimes in that state we can
Speaker 2: feel the energy of the plants or the trees in
Speaker 2: some subtle way, or we feel the nice energy of
Speaker 2: the environment feels clean and pure. Our heart opens, our
Speaker 2: senses tend to elevate, our five senses, and then our
Speaker 2: intuitive senses tend to elevate too. We all have intuition,
Speaker 2: so we have the gut feeling, and we have the
Speaker 2: love that comes from our hearts. Sorry, I hit the mic,
Speaker 2: we have the love that comes from our heart, and
Speaker 2: then we have this knowing, an intuitive knowing. Those are
Speaker 2: the three that people mainly have, and I think everybody's
Speaker 2: experienced them at some time or another in their lives.
Speaker 2: So that is an example of higher consciousness. It's the
Speaker 2: finer vibration aspect of who we are. We have an
Speaker 2: energy field which is made up of an electromagnetic field
Speaker 2: magnetic field because we're we are electrochemical beings, so we
Speaker 2: have a magnetic field to dipole, and then we have
Speaker 2: a spirit life force energy. And what happens is so
Speaker 2: we have the physical body, and then we have the
Speaker 2: intuitive senses, and we have the seven main chakras in
Speaker 2: our body, the heart chakra being one, and the solar
Speaker 2: pluxus where we feel that gut feeling or that knowing
Speaker 2: is located. And with the heart chakra, let's say when
Speaker 2: we feel love for somebody or for a beautiful plant
Speaker 2: or a child or an animal, what's happening there is
Speaker 2: we're feeling through through our energy field and it goes
Speaker 2: in through that heart chakra and it stimulates our hormones
Speaker 2: there and we feel these nice chemicals washing through our body,
Speaker 2: and so that heart chakra is where we're an energy
Speaker 2: connection to our animal or our loved one, or anything
Speaker 2: out in nature is connecting into this. Those are sensors.
Speaker 2: So that's an example of higher consciousness in action. And
Speaker 2: when we go into the dream state at night, when
Speaker 2: we're sleeping, we go into higher levels of consciousness. We
Speaker 2: also experience our subconscious and we also have access to
Speaker 2: many dimensions at that level as well. When we go
Speaker 2: into meditation and we get into it just a peaceful space,
Speaker 2: we do a couple of deep breaths, relax the body,
Speaker 2: relax the mind, we slow it down. We notice how
Speaker 2: our abrations rises a bit, and maybe we have a
Speaker 2: candle going and we have some really good, nice mellow
Speaker 2: meditation music going or something. We feel more peaceful, We
Speaker 2: feel our energy just relax and take on a nice,
Speaker 2: little gentle feeling of peace and wholeness. And in that
Speaker 2: state then we have already elevated our consciousness and we're
Speaker 2: more sensitive to higher realms. At that point, we might
Speaker 2: even feel a spirit come in, or we sense something
Speaker 2: and that could be a telepathic communication, or we may
Speaker 2: experience a loved one even come in from a higher realm.
Speaker 2: Perhaps they've passed over and we might even sense them
Speaker 2: at that point. Come in. We can experience lots of
Speaker 2: things in that higher state when we're in meditation. So
Speaker 2: that's another example of higher consciousness. I see wow.
Speaker 1: And so I guess I have to ask you, how
Speaker 1: did you start getting into all of this? Was it
Speaker 1: it was something you were interested in high school? But
Speaker 1: was there some type of event that made you decide
Speaker 1: to look at this? You know, I mean it's not
Speaker 1: something I generally think of someone in high school actually
Speaker 1: dabbling with.
Speaker 2: I decided I wanted to shoot for being an astronaut
Speaker 2: when I was in sixth grade, Martin. You know, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's thirteen years old, right. So I remember standing on
Speaker 2: my back porch in Massachusetts where I grew up at
Speaker 2: night looking up at the stars, and even if it
Speaker 2: was winter cold out, I just go out and look,
Speaker 2: turn off the porch light and just look and thinking
Speaker 2: there's got to be something up there. There's got to
Speaker 2: be some people up there. Little did I know, my
Speaker 2: intuition was calling me and it knew and so it
Speaker 2: started at that age. And I tell you, Martin, when
Speaker 2: I was thirteen, I had a UFO go over my house.
Speaker 2: It went over very slowly. I looked out the window.
Speaker 2: I happened to be near the window, and I saw
Speaker 2: it going over. The window was up, the window shade
Speaker 2: was up as well. It was August. It had a
Speaker 2: low pitch hum. It had at least three bright lights
Speaker 2: I saw on the bottom of it, and it was
Speaker 2: very low going over my house, and it moved slowly
Speaker 2: over the house. So I just watched it continue to
Speaker 2: go over. I saw it when it was already partially
Speaker 2: gone over the house. So that was when I was thirteen,
Speaker 2: and that probably influenced me. My mom she was interested
Speaker 2: in metaphysics. She was into Jane Roberts, who channels higher
Speaker 2: consciousness being named Seth and I read one of those
Speaker 2: books and that blew my mind, looking into metaphysics, the
Speaker 2: nature of consciousness and reality and the dream state and
Speaker 2: remote viewing and what are we like in higher levels
Speaker 2: of consciousness and what's going on in between lives and
Speaker 2: past lives, and that was fascinating. And I read Bob
Speaker 2: and Rose's first book, Journeys Out of the Body, about
Speaker 2: remote remote viewing and about astral travel. And I was
Speaker 2: studying UFO stuff the UFO and my mom there were
Speaker 2: two catalysts, and I think the rest of it was
Speaker 2: just an innate knowing and I just started exploring this stuff.
Speaker 1: Oh very wow. So you actually worked with a move
Speaker 1: on investigator who reportedly encountered a gray yep, and so
Speaker 1: you can you talk a little bit about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I heard her give a talk at a UFO conference,
Speaker 2: was rather small conference, and at that time, I was
Speaker 2: working with the Akashak Records. I was the Kashak Records
Speaker 2: being an energy library of every event, person, and place
Speaker 2: that's ever existed. Those energies are they never go away
Speaker 2: past events. The energies are always there and they are
Speaker 2: organized in what people call the Akashak Records by spirits
Speaker 2: that work with those records. So I've been working with
Speaker 2: the Acaheak records. People's soul records are there, and I'd
Speaker 2: been looking into where people are from, where their home worlds,
Speaker 2: and what about their oversoul, what do they look like
Speaker 2: on their home planet, the over so being the parent
Speaker 2: on the home planet of the person. And I talked
Speaker 2: to this woman after she gave her talk, and I
Speaker 2: asked her if she'd like me to look into the
Speaker 2: experience she had with that gray when she was doing
Speaker 2: a field investigation for a client working for Moufon, and
Speaker 2: she said, yes, I'd love for you to look into this.
Speaker 2: Here's a little bit about it. She withheld a lot
Speaker 2: of information, so I went in and I did an
Speaker 2: a Kashak record reading on it. I called in my
Speaker 2: spirit that works with the Akasak Records. His name was Abraham,
Speaker 2: and I asked him questions and he gave me answers,
Speaker 2: and then I reported it back to the field investigator
Speaker 2: on the phone. A few days later, after I ran
Speaker 2: it by my mentor, who got me interested in doing
Speaker 2: this kind of work. She felt that what I received
Speaker 2: from my reader of the Kashuk records was correct because
Speaker 2: she checked in with her reader of the Kashuk records
Speaker 2: and compared notes, so you know what I got. When
Speaker 2: the story goes, she had seen a gray in the
Speaker 2: field not probably twenty feet from her at night with
Speaker 2: the owner and a trainee she had with her from Mufon,
Speaker 2: and they all looked at this gray with flashlights out,
Speaker 2: and my.
Speaker 1: Who you're talking about?
Speaker 2: They freaked out and ran.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Chase, you talk about Chase.
Speaker 2: That's correct, And she said that she ran in terror,
Speaker 2: and it was something that was not by choice. It
Speaker 2: was something that her mind and body made her do.
Speaker 2: And she asked me about that, what was that terror about?
Speaker 2: When what I got about that was that this gray
Speaker 2: et is connected to his other gray ets up on
Speaker 2: a craft. These craft were coming in every night, and
Speaker 2: I got that this et was scared having a flash
Speaker 2: light in its face and knowing these were humans. So
Speaker 2: he was scared, and then so all the grays that
Speaker 2: he was connected to on the collective consciousness were scared
Speaker 2: for him. And that we laid back into her energy
Speaker 2: field and she could feel that. So it was a
Speaker 2: result of an energy connection with the gray that in
Speaker 2: terms of why she felt so much terror. That's probably
Speaker 2: the biggest part about that whole experience.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is such an amazing story. I had to
Speaker 1: her on I don't know, all the way back in
Speaker 1: like twenty eleven, twenty twelve, and yeah, it's quite an
Speaker 1: amazing story how those things were showing up every night.
Speaker 1: And the story goes that they she first saw like
Speaker 1: a light show, like all these lights interacting with each other.
Speaker 1: And she quietly told me who owned the property, which
Speaker 1: is someone that is kind of known in certain circles.
Speaker 1: So I can't say his name, but still that whole
Speaker 1: story was so weird and scary, and it drained all
Speaker 1: the batteries on their video cameras, and so many different
Speaker 1: things happened that night. Yeah, great story, A little.
Speaker 2: Bit more to share about it. I got that those
Speaker 2: Grays were benevolent and that they were coming to do research.
Speaker 2: They were studying the energies in that area because it
Speaker 2: had been flooded, and so they were coming over every
Speaker 2: night to do some studies these ets, and they felt
Speaker 2: comfortable coming to the property. They didn't feel threatened. So
Speaker 2: there's a you know, chuckling up for the benevolent Grays
Speaker 2: because they get a bad rap usually.
Speaker 1: So as far as do you think some of these things,
Speaker 1: I think I saw where that you believe that there
Speaker 1: could be extraterrestrial visitation, multi dimensional contact, and also with consciousness.
Speaker 1: So are you just exploring all the different ideas.
Speaker 2: I agree with everything you just said that beings from
Speaker 2: ets from different dimensions certainly visit the planet, and a
Speaker 2: lot of them stay in another dimension so that they
Speaker 2: don't get detected by our military or our government, and
Speaker 2: they can come into our dimension if they choose, and
Speaker 2: some of them are from our dimension. So plaps up
Speaker 2: nicely with the concept of where people are from and
Speaker 2: their home planets because a lot of many clients, most clients,
Speaker 2: ninety five percent of them, I have found their home
Speaker 2: planets are in dimensions that are higher than the Earth plane.
Speaker 2: So we went there in a spaceship, we might not
Speaker 2: even see the planet, or we would see the planet
Speaker 2: and we wouldn't see the beings on the planet if
Speaker 2: they're in a higher vibration dimension. And that's just how
Speaker 2: it works. So many of these ET's that are coming
Speaker 2: here come from a different universe or a different dimension altogether,
Speaker 2: and they can move into our dimension. If they bring
Speaker 2: their ship into our dimension from their dimension, we might
Speaker 2: see our atmosphere ionize, and so we see a glowing
Speaker 2: energy around their craft. A lot of people say they
Speaker 2: see that kind of thing. It could just be plasma
Speaker 2: around the craft that they're seeing. I don't have any
Speaker 2: real experience with the orbs and ets. My only experience
Speaker 2: with orbs really would be that I've come across them
Speaker 2: and found that they were nature spirits. Does that answer
Speaker 2: your question about ET's and dimensions? Yes?
Speaker 1: And also I just have to mention that a lot
Speaker 1: of people know when I've talked in the past about
Speaker 1: the UFO sighting that I had that got me into
Speaker 1: this whole situation in Carmel Valley back in two thousand
Speaker 1: and seven. Was the object was a disc and it
Speaker 1: had a light blue glow around it, like an electric
Speaker 1: blue glow soft around the edge of it all the
Speaker 1: way around, and plasma. I'm not sure what it was,
Speaker 1: but there was no sound in the particular one that
Speaker 1: I had.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would make sense that it was ionizing the
Speaker 2: atmosphere because a lot of these craft have a magnetic
Speaker 2: fields around them or electric fields and they're hovering and
Speaker 2: they do that with their anti gravity propulsion, and it
Speaker 2: meant that a movie fire in the sky yep where
Speaker 2: the traverse Yeah, Yeah, Travis Wallton where he was zapped
Speaker 2: by an energy electric shock basically, So the way that
Speaker 2: goes is I think he got between the craft and
Speaker 2: the ground and he acted as a ground for the
Speaker 2: electric field around the craft, and so that electricity went
Speaker 2: from the craft through him to the earth. So he
Speaker 2: was electrocuted, and they brought him on the craft and
Speaker 2: they rebuilt his body and then they put him back
Speaker 2: out on the earth. I did talk with him in
Speaker 2: person at a UFO conference and he said that, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's what happened. He got injured and they brought him
Speaker 2: on the craft and they healed him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know. I've had that conversation with him
Speaker 1: a number of times. I know you talk a lot
Speaker 1: about dreams and meditations and encounters, and I just want
Speaker 1: to bring something up because I think it's very interesting
Speaker 1: and I think you'd find it interesting. Two different people.
Speaker 1: Now we're getting a little bit feedback here. Let me
Speaker 1: just take care of your mic for right now. So,
Speaker 1: two different people that I know, on two different sides
Speaker 1: of the country, two conversations, had basically the same dream.
Speaker 1: And one is a friend out in Oregon and one
Speaker 1: is someone right here that I know very well that
Speaker 1: they are going to be contacted when the time is
Speaker 1: right and there's something that they have to do, and
Speaker 1: they will know what to do. Two different people told
Speaker 1: me the same story.
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, that makes total sense. I've been up on
Speaker 2: et craft three times, fully conscious and out of body state,
Speaker 2: and they took me up during Native American Visionquest ceremony,
Speaker 2: twice by Office Centauri beings and once by Pleaadians and
Speaker 2: I've certainly connected with playadians and office Centauri beings and
Speaker 2: meditation a number of times, lots of experiences over the decades.
Speaker 2: And my sense about this stuff is that what they
Speaker 2: do with me and they don't let me remember the conversations,
Speaker 2: is that they're preparing me and I guess enhancing me
Speaker 2: in whatever way they feel is appropriate, downloads and whatever
Speaker 2: is appropriate for my soul growth and my work in
Speaker 2: case that there's a need for it in the future,
Speaker 2: and that I will know what to do as well,
Speaker 2: especially with the alphae centaury beings, that if they have
Speaker 2: a need to use me to help out with an
Speaker 2: interaction between them and the Earth humans, that I would
Speaker 2: be activated, so to speak, and I would know what
Speaker 2: to do, and I'd be an ambassador in certain in
Speaker 2: a way to do that function. So I firmly believe
Speaker 2: that's going on and it's just fine with me, and
Speaker 2: I believe other people are in that role as well.
Speaker 1: So when wait a minute, we have a question here
Speaker 1: and chat here the intersection, I and I think others
Speaker 1: want to understand that technology all of the spiritual realities
Speaker 1: you describe. My intuition says ets use tech to amplify
Speaker 1: spirit content. What is your views on that.
Speaker 2: There's an energy implant that was put into my energy
Speaker 2: field over here on the left side of my neck
Speaker 2: when I was in my forties or fifties. I'm sixty
Speaker 2: five now, and I didn't know what that energy was.
Speaker 2: It was uncomfortable in my neck, the energy in my
Speaker 2: neck for a long time, not that it hurt or anything,
Speaker 2: but it was just weird to feel it. And eventually
Speaker 2: an intuitive told me that it was a communication device.
Speaker 2: It was transmitter of sorts, and she said that was
Speaker 2: being that was in there so that I could connect
Speaker 2: in with some of the technology that the ets used,
Speaker 2: connecting to their craft. And there was a time too
Speaker 2: when I felt a spirit when I was lying in
Speaker 2: bed meditating, getting ready to fall asleep, and I felt
Speaker 2: a spirit come in on my left, another one come
Speaker 2: in on my right, and another one come in behind me,
Speaker 2: and I guess two of them were holding space, and
Speaker 2: the one on my left reached in and tweaked the
Speaker 2: energy implant and then exited about ten seconds later, and
Speaker 2: then they left. So I said, I guess they needed
Speaker 2: to tweak it for some reason. And so that to
Speaker 2: me is a technological interface, and I've never heard them
Speaker 2: in my head coming through that transmitter or whatever. But
Speaker 2: that's an example of a tech technology that they could
Speaker 2: use to communicate. The other one would be I remember
Speaker 2: having a dream as a teenager where I was in
Speaker 2: a small room, sitting in a chair, and there was
Speaker 2: a screen in front of me and these symbols were
Speaker 2: scrolling down two columns and I'm just watching them, and
Speaker 2: there was green color on the screen beside these symbols.
Speaker 2: So here's an example of I think ET's were maybe
Speaker 2: downloading something into my brain through these symbols. The symbols
Speaker 2: had some per It's a technology, so what was it
Speaker 2: doing to my mind? I don't know. But there's two
Speaker 2: examples of some technology interface.
Speaker 1: Oh how about that? So here's another question. Hang on,
Speaker 1: let me just get your mic here. It's another question here.
Speaker 1: Do you believe there are more aliens than gray aliens
Speaker 1: or just feel the grays are the only ones that
Speaker 1: have visited Earth.
Speaker 2: There's many types they're visiting Earth. The grays are just
Speaker 2: one type, and some of the grays are benevolent, and
Speaker 2: some of them don't really have the emotion and they
Speaker 2: kind of do what they're told and then some probably
Speaker 2: have more of a self centered agenda. And there's Reptilians
Speaker 2: and there are some good ones. And then there are
Speaker 2: a bunch that are that have a selfish and intention
Speaker 2: and agenda and they've been coming to here for ages
Speaker 2: and a lot of people talk about them in a
Speaker 2: negative way because they're not fun to be around. And
Speaker 2: then there's a lot of benevolent ET's that are coming
Speaker 2: to this planet, a whole group of them. We've got
Speaker 2: beings from Sirius, al debroon A Tourists, the Pliades, and
Speaker 2: stars in Orion. I've found home star systems for clients
Speaker 2: in Orion in three three different star systems, Raijo, Batl, Juice,
Speaker 2: and Bellatrix. Those are three main stars and four main
Speaker 2: stars that are in there. And I've even connected with
Speaker 2: beings that are from a star system from Sigma Orionis
Speaker 2: I think it's called It's just below the Belt. In Orion.
Speaker 2: We have beings coming from all over the place.
Speaker 1: And how I'm sure you encounter skeptics that might say
Speaker 1: to you, how can you prove this is pretty I
Speaker 1: have to say out there stuff, And how do you
Speaker 1: try to convince people that what you're saying saying was
Speaker 1: really happening.
Speaker 2: I put a lot of this in my book, and
Speaker 2: I chose to put examples in where there was valid
Speaker 2: validation coming from other people and corroboration coming from other
Speaker 2: people to help validate these amazing statements that I'm making.
Speaker 2: And in terms of home planets where people are from.
Speaker 2: When a person, when a client, here's me tell them,
Speaker 2: this is what I got for your home star system.
Speaker 2: This is what I got for a name for your oversaul.
Speaker 2: This is what I have gotten from your soul record,
Speaker 2: the ACACHEC records for what you look like on your
Speaker 2: home planet. This is what your form is there, and
Speaker 2: they resonate with it. That's a validation. And some have
Speaker 2: even known this type of information before I even did
Speaker 2: the reading for them, so the validation comes in that
Speaker 2: level as well. Let's say I was taken out a body,
Speaker 2: fully conscious on three different Native American vision quest ceremonies.
Speaker 2: These ceremonies were done in the ceremonial way, with the
Speaker 2: chief putting the vision questers out in a safe way,
Speaker 2: and we were being monitored course in spirit level by
Speaker 2: the chief, and it's all done in a traditional way,
Speaker 2: and the chief knew that I was taken up on
Speaker 2: board in all three of those because He's just that connected.
Speaker 2: And there were other people on the vision quest that
Speaker 2: had some experiences involved in my experience of going out
Speaker 2: of body, so there is further corroboration. And when I
Speaker 2: talk about experiencing ET's and dreams. For example, in one
Speaker 2: particular dream, I had a Pleadian craft come in the
Speaker 2: dream world where I was standing in the backyard of
Speaker 2: my house in Massachusetts. In the dream, Pladian Craft comes
Speaker 2: in over the trees, and then a woman appears next
Speaker 2: to me, and she's in street close and she said
Speaker 2: some things to me that I couldn't remember after the dream,
Speaker 2: but the dream seemed very real. And then about a
Speaker 2: week later, I was telling a friend of mine at
Speaker 2: lunch about the dream, and when I did, I could
Speaker 2: feel the energy of the woman come in again on
Speaker 2: my left side, so I could feel the energy of
Speaker 2: how I felt her in my dream state. So to me,
Speaker 2: that was a validation. It was not a dream. This
Speaker 2: was something that held truth to it, It held energy
Speaker 2: to it. And there are many other stories of corroborations
Speaker 2: that I've had with other people about experiences that have
Speaker 2: had involving extraterstrial communication. I can say that I don't
Speaker 2: recall ever having a physical visit with an ET. It's
Speaker 2: always been in meditation or dream state or out of
Speaker 2: body travel.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, here's another question someone wanted to know. So,
Speaker 1: where in Massachusetts did you grow up? Was this the
Speaker 1: same place?
Speaker 2: Oh? Framing him Natick area? Oh yeah, small town called Holliston.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I spent a lot of time in that
Speaker 1: whole area. Another question here from chat. Do you suppose
Speaker 1: that ETS talk to the government officials? Might they be
Speaker 1: forcing the cover ups supposedly on pain of some terrible
Speaker 1: punishment of humanity?
Speaker 2: Yes, the ETS do you talk to government officials In
Speaker 2: many of the countries. They probably have even generated some
Speaker 2: contracts with that government and military industrial complex, and our
Speaker 2: government being involved on some level. Some of those contracts
Speaker 2: may be not in our best interest the human beings
Speaker 2: on the planet. The cover up policy that the United
Speaker 2: States and the UK still maintain is their own choice.
Speaker 2: The government and the military and the corporations in the
Speaker 2: industrial complex in the military would love to keep as
Speaker 2: much of the ET technology secret as they can. That way,
Speaker 2: they have a military advantage over other countries. They can
Speaker 2: back engineer spacecraft. In my opinion, if we look up
Speaker 2: in the sky and we see a craft floating in
Speaker 2: the sky using zero gravity, we probably there could be
Speaker 2: a fifty to fifty chance that craft is either made
Speaker 2: in the USA or its sextraterrestrial from another planet. It's
Speaker 2: that far advanced. I believe that the United States has
Speaker 2: back engineered and worked on making their own craft, and
Speaker 2: the UK might be right there with us. So it's
Speaker 2: the choice of the governments in my opinion. If they
Speaker 2: do have contracts with ETS, and I believe they probably are,
Speaker 2: I don't know if they would say don't disclose certain
Speaker 2: things like if the ETS in the industrial military industrial
Speaker 2: complex have a base underground, which I believe there are,
Speaker 2: they wouldn't want to have that location divulged, so that
Speaker 2: would need to be kept secret, and the ETS would
Speaker 2: appreciate that being kept secret, So in that way they
Speaker 2: would be an agreement on that.
Speaker 1: I had Mike Herrera on this show. A lot of
Speaker 1: people might know him as the ex marine that claims
Speaker 1: that he saw a reverse engineered craft. He thought it
Speaker 1: was a reverse engineer craft that came down and floated
Speaker 1: down and then a compartment came down and it was
Speaker 1: quite a story. I'm not really sure what to actually
Speaker 1: think about that. I think I try to look at
Speaker 1: this with an open mind and situations like this. Here's
Speaker 1: another question here. Why do you think there are some
Speaker 1: humans who've had lots of contact but have never encountered
Speaker 1: one of the self centered or harmful ets.
Speaker 2: Oh been people that have come across the negative ones.
Speaker 2: See what I could talk about with that? Native Americans
Speaker 2: have talked about negative reptilians and that they've come and
Speaker 2: taken some family members at times. Let's see grays. I've
Speaker 2: I can only say I've read stories or watched them
Speaker 2: in documentaries where people have had experiences with grays that
Speaker 2: didn't really care about their how they felt, or they
Speaker 2: weren't sensitive to how they treated them when they had
Speaker 2: them up on their craft and they were doing an
Speaker 2: exam on them, for example. I can't talk more about
Speaker 2: that because I just don't have the experience. I've experienced
Speaker 2: negative reptilians in my energy field when I've done readings
Speaker 2: for people doing a home star system reading for somebody,
Speaker 2: or you know, looking into their home planet, or or
Speaker 2: some other question they might have that involves the cashing records.
Speaker 2: But when I'm doing a home star system reading, especially
Speaker 2: when I've connected to the Alphae Centauri beings who do
Speaker 2: have somewhat of a reptilian perhaps DNA connection in their history,
Speaker 2: and I'll be connecting and communicating with a benevolent Alpha
Speaker 2: Centauri being or two in meditation, and I'll feel a
Speaker 2: negative reptilian come into my energy field, and what he
Speaker 2: will be doing is trying to distract me or lower
Speaker 2: my vibration or disconnect the communication that I'm having with
Speaker 2: these benevolent Alpha Centauri beings. And the Ofphice Centauri star
Speaker 2: system is our closest star system. It's only four to
Speaker 2: five light years away from here, and they're coming here
Speaker 2: and visiting Earth and they're doing a bunch of things.
Speaker 2: So here's an example of negative reptilians bothering me. But
Speaker 2: it's all in an energy state. They're not physically with me.
Speaker 2: So what I do is I command the negative reptilians
Speaker 2: to the throne of God and the name of Jesus Christ,
Speaker 2: and then they leave.
Speaker 1: Okay, here's a question from UFO Jack. Has have you
Speaker 1: ever had flashes of lights in your room with no
Speaker 1: known source of light?
Speaker 2: And Jack.
Speaker 1: Jack helps me out here and he's on my show
Speaker 1: a bit. So Jack, I'm going to be talking to
Speaker 1: you about that in the future, about someone I know
Speaker 1: that's had that experience.
Speaker 2: I can't say that I recall ever having that happen
Speaker 2: to me. I've been tuned into other dimensions. When I'm
Speaker 2: in my bed. I'll wake up and I'll be seeing
Speaker 2: my room looks different, the walls are different, and there
Speaker 2: is something different next to my bed. I'm experiencing another
Speaker 2: dimension at the same time that I'm experiencing my physical
Speaker 2: dimension lying in my bed. That can happen to people
Speaker 2: during dream state. Excuse me, we're dreaming, we're connected into
Speaker 2: another dimension while we're dreaming, and then we wake up
Speaker 2: and we have what what I would call is dual consciousness,
Speaker 2: where we're experiencing the other place that we were in
Speaker 2: when we were dreaming, and we're experiencing our physical dimension.
Speaker 2: So we're experiencing both and they blend together and we
Speaker 2: see them both in the room where we are when
Speaker 2: we wake up. So I've had that happen, but I
Speaker 2: haven't had lights come in that I can say that
Speaker 2: I remember. Maybe I did, and I just don't Remember.
Speaker 1: Here's another question by Jack. Have you ever seen an
Speaker 1: outline of a gray in your room that was more
Speaker 1: or less translucent.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I've heard people talk about those experiences, but I
Speaker 2: personally haven't had them.
Speaker 1: Let's see someone saying, what a great guest. Have you
Speaker 1: ever experimented with DMT to get the telepathy of aliens
Speaker 1: when you have been on the UFOs or at home?
Speaker 1: So many people talk about that. Now, I just want
Speaker 1: to say something before you answer that, is I have
Speaker 1: some connection that's in my other world, which is in
Speaker 1: the appraisal business of fine art and antiques. I'm very
Speaker 1: active in that. So I have someone in that whole
Speaker 1: other world that I guess she took DMT or something
Speaker 1: like that, and she is totally convinced that she met
Speaker 1: with an alien. This is someone that doesn't even talk
Speaker 1: that way. I was kind of surprised to hear that
Speaker 1: you can go ahead and answer that that question.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never done ayahuasca or I have a number
Speaker 2: of friends that have suggested I do that. I try that,
Speaker 2: and I feel like I will when I feel ready
Speaker 2: for that, when I feel a calling. I haven't had
Speaker 2: to do that to connect with the ets. The concept
Speaker 2: of the oversoul is something to mention because when a
Speaker 2: person because it enhances the ability to connect into ets.
Speaker 2: When the oversoul is simply the parent on a person's
Speaker 2: home planet, it's the parent that manifested the offspring. Say me,
Speaker 2: I believe I'm from Andromeda Galaxy and that my over
Speaker 2: soul is my parent on my home planet, and they
Speaker 2: created me as an offspring using intention, with the approval
Speaker 2: of their angel and God. I manifested and I could
Speaker 2: stand in front of my over soul and look at them.
Speaker 2: But yet, my aspects of consciousness are the same as
Speaker 2: my over souls. I am from my over soul. I
Speaker 2: am part of my over soul. There's no separation. Interesting concept, right,
Speaker 2: I'm here and he's there. He's within me all the
Speaker 2: time as well, or I'm within him. Our sole aspects
Speaker 2: of consciousness are the same. He just took some of
Speaker 2: his and gave me uniqueness and identity and free will
Speaker 2: and choice as an offspring. And so here I am now.
Speaker 2: When I'm connecting with my oversoul here on Earth, my
Speaker 2: intuition increased. And one of the cool things about being
Speaker 2: connected to my oversoul is when I want to connect
Speaker 2: in let's preface this by saying that I've always had
Speaker 2: a role as a being connected with ET's in this life.
Speaker 2: So I'm kind of like an ambassador between worlds. That's
Speaker 2: just what my sole wiring is in this life. So
Speaker 2: when I want to connect into an ET group for
Speaker 2: a particular purpose, asking questions whatever, I'll call in my
Speaker 2: oversaul when he's within me. So what happens is I
Speaker 2: could just sense his consciousness come to the surface and
Speaker 2: then I ask him, would you connect me to this
Speaker 2: particular star group? For example, would you connect me to
Speaker 2: the Pleayadians that took me out of body on my
Speaker 2: vision quest? So he knows who they are, what he'll
Speaker 2: do is connect my energy to them quickly, like in
Speaker 2: less than thirty seconds or a minute. He'll do it accurately,
Speaker 2: and he'll do it safely, so I know I can
Speaker 2: always trust him to do that. So that's one of
Speaker 2: the great benefits of connecting you with your oversaul. They
Speaker 2: could do that kind of stuff. Yeah, that's what I
Speaker 2: wanted to say about that.
Speaker 1: Okay, So here's a really good point I think from
Speaker 1: Christopher Alexander. Why do they have machines at all? These
Speaker 1: craft or people talk about craft. I saw what had
Speaker 1: to be some type of craft. So why do they
Speaker 1: have Why do they use craft? If they travel in
Speaker 1: other ways?
Speaker 2: I suppose some of them are so advanced they could
Speaker 2: teleport here, but maybe they maybe they do, but then
Speaker 2: there are others that they need craft in order to
Speaker 2: get here. Pleaadians do that. They as far as I know,
Speaker 2: they come here and they they they come here and
Speaker 2: they have to lower their vibration down into our dimension.
Speaker 2: They're from a higher dimension, and then they can land
Speaker 2: their craft. And people have talked about talking to them
Speaker 2: being on their craft and traveling around the Solar System
Speaker 2: and their craft. I was on one of their craft
Speaker 2: when I was out of body, fully conscious on my
Speaker 2: vision quest. They took me out of body. And these
Speaker 2: stories about my out of body travels are in my
Speaker 2: book which I do have right here, Star Journey Home
Speaker 2: some of Amazon, So all these stories are in there.
Speaker 2: And so when they took me out of body, I
Speaker 2: was standing on the craft and I was looking out
Speaker 2: a window, and I was watching the stars go by,
Speaker 2: and then the stars are going one way, and then
Speaker 2: all of a sudden they were going the opposite way.
Speaker 2: So I figured they turned the craft around. Honestly, Martin,
Speaker 2: that was all I remember from that experience in the craft.
Speaker 2: And I imagine I could go under hypnosis and learn
Speaker 2: more about it. But that was as much as they
Speaker 2: let me remember. Now, when I talked to the chief
Speaker 2: who put me out of an inquest after that, he said,
Speaker 2: you experienced more. They just didn't. They just didn't let
Speaker 2: you remember it. It's in there, though, and maybe it's
Speaker 2: one of those situations where when there's a need, I'll remember.
Speaker 1: Okay, here's another question. Are any of the et races
Speaker 1: likely to betricks or as? If so, which ones?
Speaker 2: Yeah, chicksters, some of them are kind of mischievous. I
Speaker 2: met a guy in Maryland and I gave him a
Speaker 2: reading about et connections. He was seeing craft outside his
Speaker 2: kitchen window a lot of times, and outside his doors,
Speaker 2: and they would come and he would see them off
Speaker 2: in the distance the lights at night, and he wanted
Speaker 2: to understand what was going on, and so we met
Speaker 2: at a panera bread. I think it was you don't
Speaker 2: have a waitress that's going to disturb you, so you
Speaker 2: can speak there and just have a coffee or something.
Speaker 2: And what I got was that he is from the Pleiades,
Speaker 2: that's where his home star system is. I got that strongly.
Speaker 2: But these beings that were visiting him were connected to
Speaker 2: the Serious star system. And Sirius is the brightest star
Speaker 2: in the night sky in the northern hemisphere, just to
Speaker 2: the left of the Orion constellation. So in the falling
Speaker 2: winter you can see it rising to the leftover Orion.
Speaker 2: It's very bright. That's Series A, and then there's also
Speaker 2: a Series B, which is a dwarf. But his ets
Speaker 2: were coming from one of the planets around that those
Speaker 2: star systems. They were either in our dimension. They were
Speaker 2: coming from our dimension or another one, and they were
Speaker 2: lowering their vibration to be here. But these ets I
Speaker 2: was getting, they were mischievous. They didn't they weren't real
Speaker 2: super evolved, and so they didn't know how to behave
Speaker 2: basically in a way that made the client comfortable. He
Speaker 2: was uncomfortable with their energy. They didn't do anything negative,
Speaker 2: but they made him uncomfortable. So that's an example of mischievous. Now.
Speaker 2: I had somebody I met once. This is totally by chance.
Speaker 2: She was a friend of a friend that I know
Speaker 2: they were. I do write about this in the book.
Speaker 2: My friend's friend just started sharing this at the breakfast
Speaker 2: table after breakfast, since we were talking about ET stuff,
Speaker 2: and she said that she's struggled with a memory of
Speaker 2: being a reptilian on Earth way back when, thousands of
Speaker 2: years ago, and her mission was to protect a certain
Speaker 2: positive reptilian being on Earth, a military man. She got
Speaker 2: here too late and he had been killed by a
Speaker 2: combatant reptilian group that didn't want this military leader to succeed.
Speaker 2: So we talked about it. A spirit came in, one
Speaker 2: of her spirit folk from her home world came in
Speaker 2: over my shoulder and told said, tell her that we
Speaker 2: love her. It's not her fault. Please know that you
Speaker 2: can let go of that grief because it wasn't your fault.
Speaker 2: And I told her this, and she said she could
Speaker 2: see flashes of light over my shoulder and then she
Speaker 2: could feel his energy. At one point when I asked
Speaker 2: him to move into her field, she could feel this
Speaker 2: is ET. And what we did together at that point
Speaker 2: was do a little bit of energy work and forgiveness
Speaker 2: work so that she could release that trauma. And so
Speaker 2: that was an example of a negative reptilian race that
Speaker 2: she encountered way back thousands of years ago to put
Speaker 2: a little more validity behind this. Little statuettes and figurines
Speaker 2: have been found in Iraq of reptilian beings. These are
Speaker 2: statues that maybe you're ten twelve inches high and you
Speaker 2: may maybe have seen these on ancient aliens or something
Speaker 2: like this one where I've seen the reptilian woman holding
Speaker 2: a reptilian baby and the baby's breastfeeding. We have evidence
Speaker 2: like that too as well.
Speaker 1: Okay, one last question here from Philip, a good fan
Speaker 1: of the show. Here, what do you think of Chris Bledsoe.
Speaker 1: He has had some of the same religious things that
Speaker 1: you were talking about. Are you familiar with who he is?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I've met Chris and he's an amazing guy. Honestly,
Speaker 2: I'll share why in a second. I don't know why
Speaker 2: I'm getting choked up, excuse me. Sure. So, I was
Speaker 2: at the Contact in the Desert conference at the end
Speaker 2: of May in early June this year, first time to
Speaker 2: sell books and meet people. I met Chris and he
Speaker 2: carries a very unique energy. His energy was high vibration, divine,
Speaker 2: feminine energy. It was radiating from his heart in his eyes.
Speaker 2: You could see it, Martin, in his eyes they were
Speaker 2: just there was a high spirit in his eyes. He
Speaker 2: was carrying that high vibration divine connection. And I felt
Speaker 2: that wayumber of times when I'm in that high vibration
Speaker 2: state for a number of days. But his heart was
Speaker 2: just radiating this divine energy. And I told one of
Speaker 2: the guys that was near him, one of his protectors,
Speaker 2: one of his warriors, and I said, I shared that
Speaker 2: with him, and he said, yeah, a lot of people,
Speaker 2: a number of people have sensed that on him. This
Speaker 2: guy's connected. What he shared in his book Ufo of God,
Speaker 2: he talked about that divine connection come in and he
Speaker 2: still carries that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, thank you so much. This has definitely
Speaker 1: been interesting, and the link is going to be down below.
Speaker 1: And just to let everyone know we have Luigi is
Speaker 1: going to be on. We're going to be talking about
Speaker 1: Bob Blazar sorry next week. Just trying to figure out
Speaker 1: how to close everything out here. So once again, I
Speaker 1: just want to I want to thank you for being
Speaker 1: on the show tonight and I appreciate it, all right,
Speaker 1: you okay, all right, take care all righty once so,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for hanging in here, and remember
Speaker 1: to keep your eyes to the sky.