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<v Speaker 1>Hello, this is Martin Willis. I'm your host and we

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<v Speaker 1>have our guest. Tonight's our second NASA person, second live

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<v Speaker 1>show for the evening. I'm pretty excited to have Greg Martins.

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<v Speaker 1>He's an award winning author, intuitive and retired aerospace engineer.

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<v Speaker 1>He spent thirty five years at NASA's Guarded Space Flight Center.

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<v Speaker 1>I was actually there visiting and I did see when

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<v Speaker 1>the web telescope was being created. It was pretty It

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<v Speaker 1>was actually quite fascinating. So during Greg's career he worked

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<v Speaker 1>on Space Shuttle payloads and satellite systems, including the Lunar

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<v Speaker 1>Reconnaissance Orbiter. Alongside that highly technical work, he privately explored meditation,

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<v Speaker 1>remote viewing, astro travel, and all kinds of interesting things.

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<v Speaker 1>His book Star Journey Home, Connect with Your Home Planet

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<v Speaker 1>and Over Seoul brings those seemingly different worlds together. Greg,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to podcast UFO and I'll bring you in right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome, Thank you, glad to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>So good to have you second NASA person for the night.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm honored by that. So, yeah, did you follow when

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<v Speaker 1>they were looking into the UAP topic? Do you follow

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<v Speaker 1>any of that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the release of the files on the Trump you're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm when actually NASA got involved and that was

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<v Speaker 1>my last guest. He was involved in that task force

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<v Speaker 1>that was supposed to be looking into UFO. See some

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<v Speaker 1>of the things didn't exactly go the way he was hoping.

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<v Speaker 1>So just saying hello, right everyone in chat, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for being here. Yeah, sorry, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm not familiar with the ones that NASA would

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<v Speaker 2>have been directly looking at.

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<v Speaker 1>So what was it like working for NASA and did

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<v Speaker 1>you ever have any water cooler talk about the possibility

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<v Speaker 1>of extraterrestrials.

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<v Speaker 2>Working at NASA. Godard at Space Flight Center was my

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<v Speaker 2>dream job and I landed it during my senior year

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<v Speaker 2>in college. I was awarded an internship there from the

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<v Speaker 2>mechanical engineering branch so at that time that was nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>eighty three and a Space Shuttle program which is coming online.

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<v Speaker 2>So I got to work on sounding rockets and payloads

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<v Speaker 2>that would put in the Space Shuttle to hold experiments.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I moved on to work on space satellites

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<v Speaker 2>that would be Earth orbiting or would go to the

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<v Speaker 2>Moon or two of the Sun in my later years

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<v Speaker 2>at NASA. So my thirty five years at Godard Space

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<v Speaker 2>Flight Center was amazing. I had an amazing career, was

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<v Speaker 2>my dream job, so amazing people there, really good group

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<v Speaker 2>to work with, very professional.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I had a friend he's passed away since, but

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<v Speaker 1>he was a longtime UFO researcher, Ray Stanford, and his

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<v Speaker 1>wife was working at Godard, so we visited over there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I couldn't believe when I was watching all those

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<v Speaker 1>guys dressed in their environmental white suits, very clean room

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<v Speaker 1>and where they were working on the telescope. And I

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<v Speaker 1>took a bunch of pictures. That was really great being there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I met someone that was actually very interested in

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<v Speaker 1>the UFO topic.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>He'd been there for over thirty years, so that was fun.

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<v Speaker 2>And Martin, you did ask a question about water cooler,

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<v Speaker 2>talk about it. You have both books of Terrestrials. I

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<v Speaker 2>did have conversations like that with a few, just a

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<v Speaker 2>few people at NASA Goddard that believed in that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of thing and that worked in the metaphysical realm as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So there was no talk about down UFOs and Area

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<v Speaker 2>fifty one and was in a NASA employee working on

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<v Speaker 2>anything to do with UFOs, and that conversation never came up.

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<v Speaker 2>So if any employees at Goddard we're working on extraterrestrial

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<v Speaker 2>stuff or extraterrestrial rocks, that maybe that came from Mars.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't hear about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So you were working in an environment built around engineering,

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<v Speaker 1>evidence and precision. How did you reconcile that with the

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<v Speaker 1>experiences involving intuition and consciousness?

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<v Speaker 2>Martin? I never had a conflict with it. I started

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<v Speaker 2>my exploration of consciousness and the human energy field and

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<v Speaker 2>dreams at the Sleeping Dreams and UFOs all in high school.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that's where it all began. I was heavily

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<v Speaker 2>into it when I was seventeen and eighteen, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was very interested in working at Nasagard and Space Flight Center.

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<v Speaker 2>At that time, that was my goal, and I figured

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<v Speaker 2>I'd go to college and then I try to become

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<v Speaker 2>an astronaut. And I changed my mind during college, but

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<v Speaker 2>I did manage to get a job at Goddard, and

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't see a conflict between the idea of higher

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<v Speaker 2>consciousness and other dimensions and UFOs and ETS. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>see a conflict between that and engineering and science. To me,

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<v Speaker 2>it was all kind of one of the same you

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<v Speaker 2>just got to explore it.

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<v Speaker 1>I see, So I guess I want to ask you

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<v Speaker 1>how did your journey go through what you got involved

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<v Speaker 1>in later, But actually before that, I do want to

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<v Speaker 1>mention something about consciousness because I don't really understand consciousness.

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<v Speaker 1>And also a lot of people are saying that the UFO,

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<v Speaker 1>like summoning and people that see UFOs, it has to

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<v Speaker 1>do with the conscience, and I don't really get that,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when it comes to the public siting where there's

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<v Speaker 1>many witnesses and things like that. But I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to know, how do you feel there's a connection there,

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<v Speaker 1>or try to explain it to me because I can't

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<v Speaker 1>really understand it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's say we're walking through the woods and we're

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<v Speaker 2>in a peaceful state. Sometimes in that state we can

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<v Speaker 2>feel the energy of the plants or the trees in

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<v Speaker 2>some subtle way, or we feel the nice energy of

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<v Speaker 2>the environment feels clean and pure. Our heart opens, our

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<v Speaker 2>senses tend to elevate, our five senses, and then our

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<v Speaker 2>intuitive senses tend to elevate too. We all have intuition,

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<v Speaker 2>so we have the gut feeling, and we have the

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<v Speaker 2>love that comes from our hearts. Sorry, I hit the mic,

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<v Speaker 2>we have the love that comes from our heart, and

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<v Speaker 2>then we have this knowing, an intuitive knowing. Those are

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<v Speaker 2>the three that people mainly have, and I think everybody's

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<v Speaker 2>experienced them at some time or another in their lives.

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<v Speaker 2>So that is an example of higher consciousness. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>finer vibration aspect of who we are. We have an

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<v Speaker 2>energy field which is made up of an electromagnetic field

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<v Speaker 2>magnetic field because we're we are electrochemical beings, so we

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<v Speaker 2>have a magnetic field to dipole, and then we have

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<v Speaker 2>a spirit life force energy. And what happens is so

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<v Speaker 2>we have the physical body, and then we have the

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<v Speaker 2>intuitive senses, and we have the seven main chakras in

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<v Speaker 2>our body, the heart chakra being one, and the solar

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<v Speaker 2>pluxus where we feel that gut feeling or that knowing

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<v Speaker 2>is located. And with the heart chakra, let's say when

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<v Speaker 2>we feel love for somebody or for a beautiful plant

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<v Speaker 2>or a child or an animal, what's happening there is

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<v Speaker 2>we're feeling through through our energy field and it goes

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<v Speaker 2>in through that heart chakra and it stimulates our hormones

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<v Speaker 2>there and we feel these nice chemicals washing through our body,

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<v Speaker 2>and so that heart chakra is where we're an energy

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<v Speaker 2>connection to our animal or our loved one, or anything

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<v Speaker 2>out in nature is connecting into this. Those are sensors.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's an example of higher consciousness in action. And

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<v Speaker 2>when we go into the dream state at night, when

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<v Speaker 2>we're sleeping, we go into higher levels of consciousness. We

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<v Speaker 2>also experience our subconscious and we also have access to

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<v Speaker 2>many dimensions at that level as well. When we go

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<v Speaker 2>into meditation and we get into it just a peaceful space,

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<v Speaker 2>we do a couple of deep breaths, relax the body,

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<v Speaker 2>relax the mind, we slow it down. We notice how

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<v Speaker 2>our abrations rises a bit, and maybe we have a

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<v Speaker 2>candle going and we have some really good, nice mellow

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<v Speaker 2>meditation music going or something. We feel more peaceful, We

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<v Speaker 2>feel our energy just relax and take on a nice,

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<v Speaker 2>little gentle feeling of peace and wholeness. And in that

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<v Speaker 2>state then we have already elevated our consciousness and we're

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<v Speaker 2>more sensitive to higher realms. At that point, we might

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<v Speaker 2>even feel a spirit come in, or we sense something

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<v Speaker 2>and that could be a telepathic communication, or we may

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<v Speaker 2>experience a loved one even come in from a higher realm.

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<v Speaker 2>Perhaps they've passed over and we might even sense them

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<v Speaker 2>at that point. Come in. We can experience lots of

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<v Speaker 2>things in that higher state when we're in meditation. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's another example of higher consciousness. I see wow.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I guess I have to ask you, how

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<v Speaker 1>did you start getting into all of this? Was it

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<v Speaker 1>it was something you were interested in high school? But

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<v Speaker 1>was there some type of event that made you decide

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<v Speaker 1>to look at this? You know, I mean it's not

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<v Speaker 1>something I generally think of someone in high school actually

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<v Speaker 2>I decided I wanted to shoot for being an astronaut

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<v Speaker 2>when I was in sixth grade, Martin. You know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's thirteen years old, right. So I remember standing on

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<v Speaker 2>my back porch in Massachusetts where I grew up at

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<v Speaker 2>night looking up at the stars, and even if it

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<v Speaker 2>was winter cold out, I just go out and look,

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<v Speaker 2>turn off the porch light and just look and thinking

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<v Speaker 2>there's got to be something up there. There's got to

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<v Speaker 2>be some people up there. Little did I know, my

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<v Speaker 2>intuition was calling me and it knew and so it

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<v Speaker 2>started at that age. And I tell you, Martin, when

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<v Speaker 2>I was thirteen, I had a UFO go over my house.

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<v Speaker 2>It went over very slowly. I looked out the window.

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<v Speaker 2>I happened to be near the window, and I saw

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<v Speaker 2>it going over. The window was up, the window shade

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<v Speaker 2>was up as well. It was August. It had a

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<v Speaker 2>low pitch hum. It had at least three bright lights

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<v Speaker 2>I saw on the bottom of it, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>very low going over my house, and it moved slowly

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<v Speaker 2>over the house. So I just watched it continue to

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<v Speaker 2>go over. I saw it when it was already partially

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<v Speaker 2>gone over the house. So that was when I was thirteen,

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<v Speaker 2>and that probably influenced me. My mom she was interested

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<v Speaker 2>in metaphysics. She was into Jane Roberts, who channels higher

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<v Speaker 2>consciousness being named Seth and I read one of those

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<v Speaker 2>books and that blew my mind, looking into metaphysics, the

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<v Speaker 2>nature of consciousness and reality and the dream state and

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<v Speaker 2>remote viewing and what are we like in higher levels

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<v Speaker 2>of consciousness and what's going on in between lives and

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<v Speaker 2>past lives, and that was fascinating. And I read Bob

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<v Speaker 2>and Rose's first book, Journeys Out of the Body, about

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<v Speaker 2>remote remote viewing and about astral travel. And I was

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<v Speaker 2>studying UFO stuff the UFO and my mom there were

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<v Speaker 2>two catalysts, and I think the rest of it was

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<v Speaker 2>just an innate knowing and I just started exploring this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh very wow. So you actually worked with a move

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<v Speaker 1>on investigator who reportedly encountered a gray yep, and so

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<v Speaker 1>you can you talk a little bit about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I heard her give a talk at a UFO conference,

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<v Speaker 2>was rather small conference, and at that time, I was

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<v Speaker 2>working with the Akashak Records. I was the Kashak Records

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<v Speaker 2>being an energy library of every event, person, and place

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<v Speaker 2>that's ever existed. Those energies are they never go away

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<v Speaker 2>past events. The energies are always there and they are

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<v Speaker 2>organized in what people call the Akashak Records by spirits

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<v Speaker 2>that work with those records. So I've been working with

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<v Speaker 2>the Acaheak records. People's soul records are there, and I'd

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<v Speaker 2>been looking into where people are from, where their home worlds,

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<v Speaker 2>and what about their oversoul, what do they look like

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<v Speaker 2>on their home planet, the over so being the parent

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<v Speaker 2>on the home planet of the person. And I talked

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<v Speaker 2>to this woman after she gave her talk, and I

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<v Speaker 2>experience she had with that gray when she was doing

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<v Speaker 2>a field investigation for a client working for Moufon, and

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<v Speaker 2>she said, yes, I'd love for you to look into this.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's a little bit about it. She withheld a lot

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<v Speaker 2>a Kashak record reading on it. I called in my

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<v Speaker 2>spirit that works with the Akasak Records. His name was Abraham,

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<v Speaker 2>and I asked him questions and he gave me answers,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I reported it back to the field investigator

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<v Speaker 2>on the phone. A few days later, after I ran

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<v Speaker 2>it by my mentor, who got me interested in doing

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<v Speaker 2>from my reader of the Kashuk records was correct because

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<v Speaker 2>she checked in with her reader of the Kashuk records

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<v Speaker 2>and compared notes, so you know what I got. When

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<v Speaker 2>field not probably twenty feet from her at night with

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<v Speaker 2>the owner and a trainee she had with her from Mufon,

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<v Speaker 2>and they all looked at this gray with flashlights out,

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<v Speaker 2>and my.

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<v Speaker 1>Who you're talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>They freaked out and ran.

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<v Speaker 2>That's correct, And she said that she ran in terror,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was something that was not by choice. It

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<v Speaker 2>was something that her mind and body made her do.

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<v Speaker 2>And she asked me about that, what was that terror about?

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<v Speaker 2>When what I got about that was that this gray

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<v Speaker 2>et is connected to his other gray ets up on

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<v Speaker 2>a craft. These craft were coming in every night, and

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<v Speaker 2>I got that this et was scared having a flash

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<v Speaker 2>light in its face and knowing these were humans. So

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<v Speaker 2>he was scared, and then so all the grays that

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<v Speaker 2>for him. And that we laid back into her energy

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<v Speaker 2>field and she could feel that. So it was a

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<v Speaker 2>result of an energy connection with the gray that in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of why she felt so much terror. That's probably

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest part about that whole experience.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is such an amazing story. I had to

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<v Speaker 1>her on I don't know, all the way back in

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<v Speaker 1>like twenty eleven, twenty twelve, and yeah, it's quite an

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<v Speaker 1>amazing story how those things were showing up every night.

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<v Speaker 1>And the story goes that they she first saw like

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<v Speaker 1>a light show, like all these lights interacting with each other.

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<v Speaker 1>And she quietly told me who owned the property, which

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<v Speaker 1>is someone that is kind of known in certain circles.

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<v Speaker 1>So I can't say his name, but still that whole

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<v Speaker 1>story was so weird and scary, and it drained all

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<v Speaker 1>the batteries on their video cameras, and so many different

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<v Speaker 1>things happened that night. Yeah, great story, A little.

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<v Speaker 2>Bit more to share about it. I got that those

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<v Speaker 2>Grays were benevolent and that they were coming to do research.

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<v Speaker 2>They were studying the energies in that area because it

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<v Speaker 2>had been flooded, and so they were coming over every

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<v Speaker 2>night to do some studies these ets, and they felt

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<v Speaker 2>comfortable coming to the property. They didn't feel threatened. So

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<v Speaker 2>there's a you know, chuckling up for the benevolent Grays

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<v Speaker 2>because they get a bad rap usually.

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<v Speaker 1>So as far as do you think some of these things,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I saw where that you believe that there

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<v Speaker 1>could be extraterrestrial visitation, multi dimensional contact, and also with consciousness.

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<v Speaker 1>So are you just exploring all the different ideas.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with everything you just said that beings from

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<v Speaker 2>ets from different dimensions certainly visit the planet, and a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of them stay in another dimension so that they

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<v Speaker 2>don't get detected by our military or our government, and

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<v Speaker 2>they can come into our dimension if they choose, and

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<v Speaker 2>some of them are from our dimension. So plaps up

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<v Speaker 2>nicely with the concept of where people are from and

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<v Speaker 2>their home planets because a lot of many clients, most clients,

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<v Speaker 2>ninety five percent of them, I have found their home

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<v Speaker 2>planets are in dimensions that are higher than the Earth plane.

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<v Speaker 2>So we went there in a spaceship, we might not

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<v Speaker 2>even see the planet, or we would see the planet

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<v Speaker 2>and we wouldn't see the beings on the planet if

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<v Speaker 2>they're in a higher vibration dimension. And that's just how

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<v Speaker 2>it works. So many of these ET's that are coming

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<v Speaker 2>here come from a different universe or a different dimension altogether,

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<v Speaker 2>and they can move into our dimension. If they bring

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<v Speaker 2>their ship into our dimension from their dimension, we might

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<v Speaker 2>see our atmosphere ionize, and so we see a glowing

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<v Speaker 2>energy around their craft. A lot of people say they

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<v Speaker 2>see that kind of thing. It could just be plasma

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<v Speaker 2>around the craft that they're seeing. I don't have any

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<v Speaker 2>real experience with the orbs and ets. My only experience

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<v Speaker 2>with orbs really would be that I've come across them

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<v Speaker 2>and found that they were nature spirits. Does that answer

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<v Speaker 2>your question about ET's and dimensions? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>And also I just have to mention that a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people know when I've talked in the past about

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<v Speaker 1>the UFO sighting that I had that got me into

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<v Speaker 1>this whole situation in Carmel Valley back in two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and seven. Was the object was a disc and it

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<v Speaker 1>had a light blue glow around it, like an electric

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<v Speaker 1>blue glow soft around the edge of it all the

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<v Speaker 1>way around, and plasma. I'm not sure what it was,

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<v Speaker 1>but there was no sound in the particular one that

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<v Speaker 1>I had.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that would make sense that it was ionizing the

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<v Speaker 2>atmosphere because a lot of these craft have a magnetic

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<v Speaker 2>fields around them or electric fields and they're hovering and

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<v Speaker 2>they do that with their anti gravity propulsion, and it

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<v Speaker 2>meant that a movie fire in the sky yep where

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<v Speaker 2>the traverse Yeah, Yeah, Travis Wallton where he was zapped

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<v Speaker 2>by an energy electric shock basically, So the way that

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<v Speaker 2>goes is I think he got between the craft and

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<v Speaker 2>the ground and he acted as a ground for the

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<v Speaker 2>electric field around the craft, and so that electricity went

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<v Speaker 2>from the craft through him to the earth. So he

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<v Speaker 2>was electrocuted, and they brought him on the craft and

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<v Speaker 2>they rebuilt his body and then they put him back

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<v Speaker 2>out on the earth. I did talk with him in

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<v Speaker 2>person at a UFO conference and he said that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what happened. He got injured and they brought him

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<v Speaker 2>on the craft and they healed him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I know. I've had that conversation with him

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<v Speaker 1>a number of times. I know you talk a lot

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<v Speaker 1>about dreams and meditations and encounters, and I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to bring something up because I think it's very interesting

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<v Speaker 1>and I think you'd find it interesting. Two different people.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we're getting a little bit feedback here. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>just take care of your mic for right now. So,

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<v Speaker 1>two different people that I know, on two different sides

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<v Speaker 1>of the country, two conversations, had basically the same dream.

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<v Speaker 1>And one is a friend out in Oregon and one

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<v Speaker 1>is someone right here that I know very well that

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<v Speaker 1>they are going to be contacted when the time is

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<v Speaker 1>right and there's something that they have to do, and

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<v Speaker 1>they will know what to do. Two different people told

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<v Speaker 1>me the same story.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, yep, that makes total sense. I've been up on

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<v Speaker 2>et craft three times, fully conscious and out of body state,

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<v Speaker 2>and they took me up during Native American Visionquest ceremony,

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<v Speaker 2>twice by Office Centauri beings and once by Pleaadians and

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<v Speaker 2>I've certainly connected with playadians and office Centauri beings and

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<v Speaker 2>meditation a number of times, lots of experiences over the decades.

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<v Speaker 2>And my sense about this stuff is that what they

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<v Speaker 2>do with me and they don't let me remember the conversations,

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<v Speaker 2>is that they're preparing me and I guess enhancing me

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<v Speaker 2>in whatever way they feel is appropriate, downloads and whatever

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<v Speaker 2>is appropriate for my soul growth and my work in

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<v Speaker 2>case that there's a need for it in the future,

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<v Speaker 2>and that I will know what to do as well,

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<v Speaker 2>especially with the alphae centaury beings, that if they have

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<v Speaker 2>a need to use me to help out with an

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<v Speaker 2>interaction between them and the Earth humans, that I would

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<v Speaker 2>be activated, so to speak, and I would know what

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<v Speaker 2>to do, and I'd be an ambassador in certain in

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<v Speaker 2>a way to do that function. So I firmly believe

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<v Speaker 2>that's going on and it's just fine with me, and

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<v Speaker 2>I believe other people are in that role as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So when wait a minute, we have a question here

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<v Speaker 1>and chat here the intersection, I and I think others

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<v Speaker 1>want to understand that technology all of the spiritual realities

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<v Speaker 1>you describe. My intuition says ets use tech to amplify

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<v Speaker 1>spirit content. What is your views on that.

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<v Speaker 2>There's an energy implant that was put into my energy

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<v Speaker 2>field over here on the left side of my neck

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<v Speaker 2>when I was in my forties or fifties. I'm sixty

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<v Speaker 2>five now, and I didn't know what that energy was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was uncomfortable in my neck, the energy in my

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<v Speaker 2>neck for a long time, not that it hurt or anything,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was just weird to feel it. And eventually

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<v Speaker 2>an intuitive told me that it was a communication device.

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<v Speaker 2>It was transmitter of sorts, and she said that was

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<v Speaker 2>being that was in there so that I could connect

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<v Speaker 2>in with some of the technology that the ets used,

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<v Speaker 2>connecting to their craft. And there was a time too

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<v Speaker 2>when I felt a spirit when I was lying in

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<v Speaker 2>bed meditating, getting ready to fall asleep, and I felt

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<v Speaker 2>a spirit come in on my left, another one come

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<v Speaker 2>in on my right, and another one come in behind me,

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<v Speaker 2>and I guess two of them were holding space, and

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<v Speaker 2>the one on my left reached in and tweaked the

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<v Speaker 2>energy implant and then exited about ten seconds later, and

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<v Speaker 2>then they left. So I said, I guess they needed

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<v Speaker 2>to tweak it for some reason. And so that to

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<v Speaker 2>me is a technological interface, and I've never heard them

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<v Speaker 2>in my head coming through that transmitter or whatever. But

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<v Speaker 2>that's an example of a tech technology that they could

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<v Speaker 2>use to communicate. The other one would be I remember

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<v Speaker 2>having a dream as a teenager where I was in

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<v Speaker 2>a small room, sitting in a chair, and there was

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<v Speaker 2>a screen in front of me and these symbols were

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<v Speaker 2>scrolling down two columns and I'm just watching them, and

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<v Speaker 2>there was green color on the screen beside these symbols.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's an example of I think ET's were maybe

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<v Speaker 2>downloading something into my brain through these symbols. The symbols

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<v Speaker 2>had some per It's a technology, so what was it

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<v Speaker 2>doing to my mind? I don't know. But there's two

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<v Speaker 2>examples of some technology interface.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh how about that? So here's another question. Hang on,

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<v Speaker 1>let me just get your mic here. It's another question here.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you believe there are more aliens than gray aliens

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<v Speaker 1>or just feel the grays are the only ones that

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<v Speaker 1>have visited Earth.

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<v Speaker 2>There's many types they're visiting Earth. The grays are just

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<v Speaker 2>one type, and some of the grays are benevolent, and

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<v Speaker 2>some of them don't really have the emotion and they

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<v Speaker 2>kind of do what they're told and then some probably

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<v Speaker 2>have more of a self centered agenda. And there's Reptilians

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<v Speaker 2>and there are some good ones. And then there are

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch that are that have a selfish and intention

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<v Speaker 2>and agenda and they've been coming to here for ages

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<v Speaker 2>and a lot of people talk about them in a

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<v Speaker 2>negative way because they're not fun to be around. And

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<v Speaker 2>then there's a lot of benevolent ET's that are coming

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<v Speaker 2>to this planet, a whole group of them. We've got

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<v Speaker 2>beings from Sirius, al debroon A Tourists, the Pliades, and

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<v Speaker 2>stars in Orion. I've found home star systems for clients

424
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<v Speaker 2>in Orion in three three different star systems, Raijo, Batl, Juice,

425
00:26:25.880 --> 00:26:30.680
<v Speaker 2>and Bellatrix. Those are three main stars and four main

426
00:26:30.720 --> 00:26:33.799
<v Speaker 2>stars that are in there. And I've even connected with

427
00:26:33.839 --> 00:26:38.519
<v Speaker 2>beings that are from a star system from Sigma Orionis

428
00:26:38.559 --> 00:26:41.160
<v Speaker 2>I think it's called It's just below the Belt. In Orion.

429
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<v Speaker 2>We have beings coming from all over the place.

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<v Speaker 1>And how I'm sure you encounter skeptics that might say

431
00:26:49.839 --> 00:26:54.680
<v Speaker 1>to you, how can you prove this is pretty I

432
00:26:54.720 --> 00:26:57.319
<v Speaker 1>have to say out there stuff, And how do you

433
00:26:57.319 --> 00:27:00.640
<v Speaker 1>try to convince people that what you're saying saying was

434
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<v Speaker 1>really happening.

435
00:27:02.799 --> 00:27:05.160
<v Speaker 2>I put a lot of this in my book, and

436
00:27:05.440 --> 00:27:09.599
<v Speaker 2>I chose to put examples in where there was valid

437
00:27:10.039 --> 00:27:13.880
<v Speaker 2>validation coming from other people and corroboration coming from other

438
00:27:13.920 --> 00:27:20.000
<v Speaker 2>people to help validate these amazing statements that I'm making.

439
00:27:20.559 --> 00:27:23.759
<v Speaker 2>And in terms of home planets where people are from.

440
00:27:24.920 --> 00:27:27.720
<v Speaker 2>When a person, when a client, here's me tell them,

441
00:27:28.160 --> 00:27:30.240
<v Speaker 2>this is what I got for your home star system.

442
00:27:31.039 --> 00:27:32.799
<v Speaker 2>This is what I got for a name for your oversaul.

443
00:27:33.240 --> 00:27:36.119
<v Speaker 2>This is what I have gotten from your soul record,

444
00:27:36.200 --> 00:27:39.440
<v Speaker 2>the ACACHEC records for what you look like on your

445
00:27:39.440 --> 00:27:42.519
<v Speaker 2>home planet. This is what your form is there, and

446
00:27:42.559 --> 00:27:47.319
<v Speaker 2>they resonate with it. That's a validation. And some have

447
00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:52.200
<v Speaker 2>even known this type of information before I even did

448
00:27:52.240 --> 00:27:56.079
<v Speaker 2>the reading for them, so the validation comes in that

449
00:27:56.160 --> 00:28:01.279
<v Speaker 2>level as well. Let's say I was taken out a body,

450
00:28:01.319 --> 00:28:05.160
<v Speaker 2>fully conscious on three different Native American vision quest ceremonies.

451
00:28:05.960 --> 00:28:09.000
<v Speaker 2>These ceremonies were done in the ceremonial way, with the

452
00:28:09.079 --> 00:28:12.880
<v Speaker 2>chief putting the vision questers out in a safe way,

453
00:28:12.960 --> 00:28:17.000
<v Speaker 2>and we were being monitored course in spirit level by

454
00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:20.519
<v Speaker 2>the chief, and it's all done in a traditional way,

455
00:28:21.279 --> 00:28:23.720
<v Speaker 2>and the chief knew that I was taken up on

456
00:28:23.839 --> 00:28:26.480
<v Speaker 2>board in all three of those because He's just that connected.

457
00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:28.720
<v Speaker 2>And there were other people on the vision quest that

458
00:28:28.839 --> 00:28:33.920
<v Speaker 2>had some experiences involved in my experience of going out

459
00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:38.559
<v Speaker 2>of body, so there is further corroboration. And when I

460
00:28:38.599 --> 00:28:43.920
<v Speaker 2>talk about experiencing ET's and dreams. For example, in one

461
00:28:43.960 --> 00:28:48.079
<v Speaker 2>particular dream, I had a Pleadian craft come in the

462
00:28:48.200 --> 00:28:50.640
<v Speaker 2>dream world where I was standing in the backyard of

463
00:28:50.640 --> 00:28:54.960
<v Speaker 2>my house in Massachusetts. In the dream, Pladian Craft comes

464
00:28:55.000 --> 00:28:58.119
<v Speaker 2>in over the trees, and then a woman appears next

465
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<v Speaker 2>to me, and she's in street close and she said

466
00:29:01.880 --> 00:29:04.440
<v Speaker 2>some things to me that I couldn't remember after the dream,

467
00:29:05.240 --> 00:29:09.680
<v Speaker 2>but the dream seemed very real. And then about a

468
00:29:09.720 --> 00:29:12.880
<v Speaker 2>week later, I was telling a friend of mine at

469
00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:16.319
<v Speaker 2>lunch about the dream, and when I did, I could

470
00:29:16.359 --> 00:29:20.720
<v Speaker 2>feel the energy of the woman come in again on

471
00:29:20.759 --> 00:29:24.079
<v Speaker 2>my left side, so I could feel the energy of

472
00:29:24.440 --> 00:29:27.319
<v Speaker 2>how I felt her in my dream state. So to me,

473
00:29:27.480 --> 00:29:30.359
<v Speaker 2>that was a validation. It was not a dream. This

474
00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:33.559
<v Speaker 2>was something that held truth to it, It held energy

475
00:29:33.599 --> 00:29:37.240
<v Speaker 2>to it. And there are many other stories of corroborations

476
00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:41.319
<v Speaker 2>that I've had with other people about experiences that have

477
00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:46.359
<v Speaker 2>had involving extraterstrial communication. I can say that I don't

478
00:29:46.400 --> 00:29:50.279
<v Speaker 2>recall ever having a physical visit with an ET. It's

479
00:29:50.319 --> 00:29:54.400
<v Speaker 2>always been in meditation or dream state or out of

480
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<v Speaker 2>body travel.

481
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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, here's another question someone wanted to know. So,

482
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<v Speaker 1>where in Massachusetts did you grow up? Was this the

483
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<v Speaker 1>same place?

484
00:30:05.440 --> 00:30:09.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh? Framing him Natick area? Oh yeah, small town called Holliston.

485
00:30:10.759 --> 00:30:13.359
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, I spent a lot of time in that

486
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<v Speaker 1>whole area. Another question here from chat. Do you suppose

487
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<v Speaker 1>that ETS talk to the government officials? Might they be

488
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<v Speaker 1>forcing the cover ups supposedly on pain of some terrible

489
00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:28.000
<v Speaker 1>punishment of humanity?

490
00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:32.640
<v Speaker 2>Yes, the ETS do you talk to government officials In

491
00:30:32.759 --> 00:30:38.559
<v Speaker 2>many of the countries. They probably have even generated some

492
00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:44.200
<v Speaker 2>contracts with that government and military industrial complex, and our

493
00:30:44.240 --> 00:30:49.519
<v Speaker 2>government being involved on some level. Some of those contracts

494
00:30:49.559 --> 00:30:53.480
<v Speaker 2>may be not in our best interest the human beings

495
00:30:53.640 --> 00:30:56.880
<v Speaker 2>on the planet. The cover up policy that the United

496
00:30:56.880 --> 00:31:00.680
<v Speaker 2>States and the UK still maintain is their own choice.

497
00:31:02.200 --> 00:31:06.799
<v Speaker 2>The government and the military and the corporations in the

498
00:31:06.839 --> 00:31:10.759
<v Speaker 2>industrial complex in the military would love to keep as

499
00:31:10.960 --> 00:31:16.400
<v Speaker 2>much of the ET technology secret as they can. That way,

500
00:31:16.440 --> 00:31:19.720
<v Speaker 2>they have a military advantage over other countries. They can

501
00:31:19.799 --> 00:31:22.960
<v Speaker 2>back engineer spacecraft. In my opinion, if we look up

502
00:31:22.960 --> 00:31:26.519
<v Speaker 2>in the sky and we see a craft floating in

503
00:31:26.559 --> 00:31:31.720
<v Speaker 2>the sky using zero gravity, we probably there could be

504
00:31:31.759 --> 00:31:34.240
<v Speaker 2>a fifty to fifty chance that craft is either made

505
00:31:34.279 --> 00:31:39.000
<v Speaker 2>in the USA or its sextraterrestrial from another planet. It's

506
00:31:39.039 --> 00:31:42.359
<v Speaker 2>that far advanced. I believe that the United States has

507
00:31:42.400 --> 00:31:45.880
<v Speaker 2>back engineered and worked on making their own craft, and

508
00:31:46.119 --> 00:31:49.559
<v Speaker 2>the UK might be right there with us. So it's

509
00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:52.240
<v Speaker 2>the choice of the governments in my opinion. If they

510
00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:55.920
<v Speaker 2>do have contracts with ETS, and I believe they probably are,

511
00:31:57.000 --> 00:31:59.559
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if they would say don't disclose certain

512
00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:03.519
<v Speaker 2>things like if the ETS in the industrial military industrial

513
00:32:03.559 --> 00:32:06.519
<v Speaker 2>complex have a base underground, which I believe there are,

514
00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:11.640
<v Speaker 2>they wouldn't want to have that location divulged, so that

515
00:32:11.680 --> 00:32:13.799
<v Speaker 2>would need to be kept secret, and the ETS would

516
00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:16.599
<v Speaker 2>appreciate that being kept secret, So in that way they

517
00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:17.960
<v Speaker 2>would be an agreement on that.

518
00:32:19.400 --> 00:32:22.839
<v Speaker 1>I had Mike Herrera on this show. A lot of

519
00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:27.559
<v Speaker 1>people might know him as the ex marine that claims

520
00:32:27.559 --> 00:32:31.359
<v Speaker 1>that he saw a reverse engineered craft. He thought it

521
00:32:31.400 --> 00:32:35.559
<v Speaker 1>was a reverse engineer craft that came down and floated

522
00:32:35.640 --> 00:32:39.000
<v Speaker 1>down and then a compartment came down and it was

523
00:32:39.119 --> 00:32:42.119
<v Speaker 1>quite a story. I'm not really sure what to actually

524
00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:44.400
<v Speaker 1>think about that. I think I try to look at

525
00:32:44.400 --> 00:32:47.400
<v Speaker 1>this with an open mind and situations like this. Here's

526
00:32:47.400 --> 00:32:49.279
<v Speaker 1>another question here. Why do you think there are some

527
00:32:49.480 --> 00:32:53.680
<v Speaker 1>humans who've had lots of contact but have never encountered

528
00:32:54.119 --> 00:32:58.200
<v Speaker 1>one of the self centered or harmful ets.

529
00:32:59.400 --> 00:33:03.039
<v Speaker 2>Oh been people that have come across the negative ones.

530
00:33:03.960 --> 00:33:07.160
<v Speaker 2>See what I could talk about with that? Native Americans

531
00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:11.279
<v Speaker 2>have talked about negative reptilians and that they've come and

532
00:33:11.319 --> 00:33:19.240
<v Speaker 2>taken some family members at times. Let's see grays. I've

533
00:33:20.200 --> 00:33:22.920
<v Speaker 2>I can only say I've read stories or watched them

534
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:26.960
<v Speaker 2>in documentaries where people have had experiences with grays that

535
00:33:27.240 --> 00:33:31.599
<v Speaker 2>didn't really care about their how they felt, or they

536
00:33:31.599 --> 00:33:33.559
<v Speaker 2>weren't sensitive to how they treated them when they had

537
00:33:33.599 --> 00:33:36.079
<v Speaker 2>them up on their craft and they were doing an

538
00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:40.519
<v Speaker 2>exam on them, for example. I can't talk more about

539
00:33:40.519 --> 00:33:44.960
<v Speaker 2>that because I just don't have the experience. I've experienced

540
00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:48.359
<v Speaker 2>negative reptilians in my energy field when I've done readings

541
00:33:48.359 --> 00:33:52.000
<v Speaker 2>for people doing a home star system reading for somebody,

542
00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:55.960
<v Speaker 2>or you know, looking into their home planet, or or

543
00:33:56.039 --> 00:33:59.440
<v Speaker 2>some other question they might have that involves the cashing records.

544
00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:03.799
<v Speaker 2>But when I'm doing a home star system reading, especially

545
00:34:03.839 --> 00:34:07.160
<v Speaker 2>when I've connected to the Alphae Centauri beings who do

546
00:34:07.359 --> 00:34:12.519
<v Speaker 2>have somewhat of a reptilian perhaps DNA connection in their history,

547
00:34:13.239 --> 00:34:16.840
<v Speaker 2>and I'll be connecting and communicating with a benevolent Alpha

548
00:34:16.840 --> 00:34:21.519
<v Speaker 2>Centauri being or two in meditation, and I'll feel a

549
00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:25.199
<v Speaker 2>negative reptilian come into my energy field, and what he

550
00:34:25.280 --> 00:34:28.599
<v Speaker 2>will be doing is trying to distract me or lower

551
00:34:28.639 --> 00:34:33.440
<v Speaker 2>my vibration or disconnect the communication that I'm having with

552
00:34:33.519 --> 00:34:38.320
<v Speaker 2>these benevolent Alpha Centauri beings. And the Ofphice Centauri star

553
00:34:38.400 --> 00:34:41.599
<v Speaker 2>system is our closest star system. It's only four to

554
00:34:41.679 --> 00:34:45.159
<v Speaker 2>five light years away from here, and they're coming here

555
00:34:45.159 --> 00:34:48.320
<v Speaker 2>and visiting Earth and they're doing a bunch of things.

556
00:34:48.760 --> 00:34:51.960
<v Speaker 2>So here's an example of negative reptilians bothering me. But

557
00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:55.159
<v Speaker 2>it's all in an energy state. They're not physically with me.

558
00:34:56.000 --> 00:34:59.440
<v Speaker 2>So what I do is I command the negative reptilians

559
00:34:59.800 --> 00:35:02.400
<v Speaker 2>to the throne of God and the name of Jesus Christ,

560
00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:03.639
<v Speaker 2>and then they leave.

561
00:35:05.079 --> 00:35:08.920
<v Speaker 1>Okay, here's a question from UFO Jack. Has have you

562
00:35:08.960 --> 00:35:12.199
<v Speaker 1>ever had flashes of lights in your room with no

563
00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:13.639
<v Speaker 1>known source of light?

564
00:35:13.800 --> 00:35:14.440
<v Speaker 2>And Jack.

565
00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:17.679
<v Speaker 1>Jack helps me out here and he's on my show

566
00:35:17.719 --> 00:35:19.559
<v Speaker 1>a bit. So Jack, I'm going to be talking to

567
00:35:19.559 --> 00:35:22.519
<v Speaker 1>you about that in the future, about someone I know

568
00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:23.920
<v Speaker 1>that's had that experience.

569
00:35:25.480 --> 00:35:28.039
<v Speaker 2>I can't say that I recall ever having that happen

570
00:35:28.159 --> 00:35:32.000
<v Speaker 2>to me. I've been tuned into other dimensions. When I'm

571
00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:34.840
<v Speaker 2>in my bed. I'll wake up and I'll be seeing

572
00:35:34.840 --> 00:35:38.679
<v Speaker 2>my room looks different, the walls are different, and there

573
00:35:38.760 --> 00:35:42.639
<v Speaker 2>is something different next to my bed. I'm experiencing another

574
00:35:42.679 --> 00:35:48.679
<v Speaker 2>dimension at the same time that I'm experiencing my physical

575
00:35:48.719 --> 00:35:51.599
<v Speaker 2>dimension lying in my bed. That can happen to people

576
00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:57.679
<v Speaker 2>during dream state. Excuse me, we're dreaming, we're connected into

577
00:35:57.719 --> 00:36:00.760
<v Speaker 2>another dimension while we're dreaming, and then we wake up

578
00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:04.679
<v Speaker 2>and we have what what I would call is dual consciousness,

579
00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:08.199
<v Speaker 2>where we're experiencing the other place that we were in

580
00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:11.480
<v Speaker 2>when we were dreaming, and we're experiencing our physical dimension.

581
00:36:12.039 --> 00:36:14.639
<v Speaker 2>So we're experiencing both and they blend together and we

582
00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:17.559
<v Speaker 2>see them both in the room where we are when

583
00:36:17.599 --> 00:36:20.800
<v Speaker 2>we wake up. So I've had that happen, but I

584
00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:23.239
<v Speaker 2>haven't had lights come in that I can say that

585
00:36:23.320 --> 00:36:26.199
<v Speaker 2>I remember. Maybe I did, and I just don't Remember.

586
00:36:26.559 --> 00:36:29.679
<v Speaker 1>Here's another question by Jack. Have you ever seen an

587
00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:32.719
<v Speaker 1>outline of a gray in your room that was more

588
00:36:32.840 --> 00:36:33.920
<v Speaker 1>or less translucent.

589
00:36:35.599 --> 00:36:38.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I've heard people talk about those experiences, but I

590
00:36:38.360 --> 00:36:39.800
<v Speaker 2>personally haven't had them.

591
00:36:40.119 --> 00:36:42.639
<v Speaker 1>Let's see someone saying, what a great guest. Have you

592
00:36:43.239 --> 00:36:48.440
<v Speaker 1>ever experimented with DMT to get the telepathy of aliens

593
00:36:48.480 --> 00:36:51.559
<v Speaker 1>when you have been on the UFOs or at home?

594
00:36:51.719 --> 00:36:54.320
<v Speaker 1>So many people talk about that. Now, I just want

595
00:36:54.360 --> 00:36:57.159
<v Speaker 1>to say something before you answer that, is I have

596
00:36:57.320 --> 00:37:02.800
<v Speaker 1>some connection that's in my other world, which is in

597
00:37:02.840 --> 00:37:06.920
<v Speaker 1>the appraisal business of fine art and antiques. I'm very

598
00:37:06.920 --> 00:37:09.440
<v Speaker 1>active in that. So I have someone in that whole

599
00:37:09.480 --> 00:37:12.920
<v Speaker 1>other world that I guess she took DMT or something

600
00:37:13.039 --> 00:37:17.239
<v Speaker 1>like that, and she is totally convinced that she met

601
00:37:17.239 --> 00:37:19.559
<v Speaker 1>with an alien. This is someone that doesn't even talk

602
00:37:19.599 --> 00:37:22.239
<v Speaker 1>that way. I was kind of surprised to hear that

603
00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:24.920
<v Speaker 1>you can go ahead and answer that that question.

604
00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:28.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've never done ayahuasca or I have a number

605
00:37:28.599 --> 00:37:31.079
<v Speaker 2>of friends that have suggested I do that. I try that,

606
00:37:32.119 --> 00:37:34.360
<v Speaker 2>and I feel like I will when I feel ready

607
00:37:34.360 --> 00:37:37.519
<v Speaker 2>for that, when I feel a calling. I haven't had

608
00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:41.000
<v Speaker 2>to do that to connect with the ets. The concept

609
00:37:41.000 --> 00:37:44.480
<v Speaker 2>of the oversoul is something to mention because when a

610
00:37:44.559 --> 00:37:47.880
<v Speaker 2>person because it enhances the ability to connect into ets.

611
00:37:48.480 --> 00:37:52.480
<v Speaker 2>When the oversoul is simply the parent on a person's

612
00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:57.679
<v Speaker 2>home planet, it's the parent that manifested the offspring. Say me,

613
00:37:57.880 --> 00:38:01.000
<v Speaker 2>I believe I'm from Andromeda Galaxy and that my over

614
00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:04.199
<v Speaker 2>soul is my parent on my home planet, and they

615
00:38:04.280 --> 00:38:08.239
<v Speaker 2>created me as an offspring using intention, with the approval

616
00:38:08.239 --> 00:38:12.480
<v Speaker 2>of their angel and God. I manifested and I could

617
00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:14.599
<v Speaker 2>stand in front of my over soul and look at them.

618
00:38:14.840 --> 00:38:17.719
<v Speaker 2>But yet, my aspects of consciousness are the same as

619
00:38:17.760 --> 00:38:21.000
<v Speaker 2>my over souls. I am from my over soul. I

620
00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:25.719
<v Speaker 2>am part of my over soul. There's no separation. Interesting concept, right,

621
00:38:26.039 --> 00:38:29.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm here and he's there. He's within me all the

622
00:38:29.199 --> 00:38:32.960
<v Speaker 2>time as well, or I'm within him. Our sole aspects

623
00:38:32.960 --> 00:38:36.679
<v Speaker 2>of consciousness are the same. He just took some of

624
00:38:36.719 --> 00:38:39.280
<v Speaker 2>his and gave me uniqueness and identity and free will

625
00:38:39.320 --> 00:38:43.360
<v Speaker 2>and choice as an offspring. And so here I am now.

626
00:38:43.760 --> 00:38:47.360
<v Speaker 2>When I'm connecting with my oversoul here on Earth, my

627
00:38:47.440 --> 00:38:51.079
<v Speaker 2>intuition increased. And one of the cool things about being

628
00:38:51.079 --> 00:38:53.679
<v Speaker 2>connected to my oversoul is when I want to connect

629
00:38:53.679 --> 00:38:58.000
<v Speaker 2>in let's preface this by saying that I've always had

630
00:38:58.079 --> 00:39:01.360
<v Speaker 2>a role as a being connected with ET's in this life.

631
00:39:01.400 --> 00:39:04.559
<v Speaker 2>So I'm kind of like an ambassador between worlds. That's

632
00:39:04.599 --> 00:39:07.679
<v Speaker 2>just what my sole wiring is in this life. So

633
00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:10.719
<v Speaker 2>when I want to connect into an ET group for

634
00:39:10.760 --> 00:39:15.320
<v Speaker 2>a particular purpose, asking questions whatever, I'll call in my

635
00:39:15.400 --> 00:39:18.039
<v Speaker 2>oversaul when he's within me. So what happens is I

636
00:39:18.039 --> 00:39:21.400
<v Speaker 2>could just sense his consciousness come to the surface and

637
00:39:21.440 --> 00:39:23.519
<v Speaker 2>then I ask him, would you connect me to this

638
00:39:23.599 --> 00:39:27.760
<v Speaker 2>particular star group? For example, would you connect me to

639
00:39:28.719 --> 00:39:31.039
<v Speaker 2>the Pleayadians that took me out of body on my

640
00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:36.199
<v Speaker 2>vision quest? So he knows who they are, what he'll

641
00:39:36.199 --> 00:39:41.000
<v Speaker 2>do is connect my energy to them quickly, like in

642
00:39:41.079 --> 00:39:45.239
<v Speaker 2>less than thirty seconds or a minute. He'll do it accurately,

643
00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:48.360
<v Speaker 2>and he'll do it safely, so I know I can

644
00:39:48.440 --> 00:39:50.400
<v Speaker 2>always trust him to do that. So that's one of

645
00:39:50.400 --> 00:39:54.000
<v Speaker 2>the great benefits of connecting you with your oversaul. They

646
00:39:54.000 --> 00:39:56.480
<v Speaker 2>could do that kind of stuff. Yeah, that's what I

647
00:39:56.480 --> 00:39:57.400
<v Speaker 2>wanted to say about that.

648
00:39:58.360 --> 00:40:01.360
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So here's a really good point I think from

649
00:40:01.519 --> 00:40:05.400
<v Speaker 1>Christopher Alexander. Why do they have machines at all? These

650
00:40:05.480 --> 00:40:08.880
<v Speaker 1>craft or people talk about craft. I saw what had

651
00:40:08.920 --> 00:40:12.639
<v Speaker 1>to be some type of craft. So why do they

652
00:40:12.679 --> 00:40:16.320
<v Speaker 1>have Why do they use craft? If they travel in

653
00:40:16.360 --> 00:40:17.559
<v Speaker 1>other ways?

654
00:40:18.480 --> 00:40:21.000
<v Speaker 2>I suppose some of them are so advanced they could

655
00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:24.840
<v Speaker 2>teleport here, but maybe they maybe they do, but then

656
00:40:24.880 --> 00:40:27.360
<v Speaker 2>there are others that they need craft in order to

657
00:40:27.400 --> 00:40:31.119
<v Speaker 2>get here. Pleaadians do that. They as far as I know,

658
00:40:31.239 --> 00:40:36.280
<v Speaker 2>they come here and they they they come here and

659
00:40:36.599 --> 00:40:39.480
<v Speaker 2>they have to lower their vibration down into our dimension.

660
00:40:39.519 --> 00:40:42.840
<v Speaker 2>They're from a higher dimension, and then they can land

661
00:40:42.880 --> 00:40:46.519
<v Speaker 2>their craft. And people have talked about talking to them

662
00:40:46.559 --> 00:40:49.599
<v Speaker 2>being on their craft and traveling around the Solar System

663
00:40:49.639 --> 00:40:52.119
<v Speaker 2>and their craft. I was on one of their craft

664
00:40:52.199 --> 00:40:54.559
<v Speaker 2>when I was out of body, fully conscious on my

665
00:40:54.639 --> 00:40:58.199
<v Speaker 2>vision quest. They took me out of body. And these

666
00:40:58.239 --> 00:41:00.440
<v Speaker 2>stories about my out of body travels are in my

667
00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:04.000
<v Speaker 2>book which I do have right here, Star Journey Home

668
00:41:05.440 --> 00:41:08.079
<v Speaker 2>some of Amazon, So all these stories are in there.

669
00:41:08.599 --> 00:41:10.800
<v Speaker 2>And so when they took me out of body, I

670
00:41:10.840 --> 00:41:12.639
<v Speaker 2>was standing on the craft and I was looking out

671
00:41:12.679 --> 00:41:15.840
<v Speaker 2>a window, and I was watching the stars go by,

672
00:41:16.280 --> 00:41:18.199
<v Speaker 2>and then the stars are going one way, and then

673
00:41:18.199 --> 00:41:20.239
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden they were going the opposite way.

674
00:41:20.280 --> 00:41:23.719
<v Speaker 2>So I figured they turned the craft around. Honestly, Martin,

675
00:41:23.760 --> 00:41:27.159
<v Speaker 2>that was all I remember from that experience in the craft.

676
00:41:27.920 --> 00:41:30.679
<v Speaker 2>And I imagine I could go under hypnosis and learn

677
00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:33.280
<v Speaker 2>more about it. But that was as much as they

678
00:41:33.679 --> 00:41:36.280
<v Speaker 2>let me remember. Now, when I talked to the chief

679
00:41:37.119 --> 00:41:39.960
<v Speaker 2>who put me out of an inquest after that, he said,

680
00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:43.599
<v Speaker 2>you experienced more. They just didn't. They just didn't let

681
00:41:43.639 --> 00:41:46.239
<v Speaker 2>you remember it. It's in there, though, and maybe it's

682
00:41:46.280 --> 00:41:50.079
<v Speaker 2>one of those situations where when there's a need, I'll remember.

683
00:41:52.280 --> 00:41:56.559
<v Speaker 1>Okay, here's another question. Are any of the et races

684
00:41:56.599 --> 00:41:58.599
<v Speaker 1>likely to betricks or as? If so, which ones?

685
00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:03.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, chicksters, some of them are kind of mischievous. I

686
00:42:03.639 --> 00:42:06.159
<v Speaker 2>met a guy in Maryland and I gave him a

687
00:42:06.199 --> 00:42:11.880
<v Speaker 2>reading about et connections. He was seeing craft outside his

688
00:42:12.480 --> 00:42:15.280
<v Speaker 2>kitchen window a lot of times, and outside his doors,

689
00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:19.280
<v Speaker 2>and they would come and he would see them off

690
00:42:19.320 --> 00:42:21.800
<v Speaker 2>in the distance the lights at night, and he wanted

691
00:42:21.840 --> 00:42:25.199
<v Speaker 2>to understand what was going on, and so we met

692
00:42:25.239 --> 00:42:28.079
<v Speaker 2>at a panera bread. I think it was you don't

693
00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:30.920
<v Speaker 2>have a waitress that's going to disturb you, so you

694
00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:34.320
<v Speaker 2>can speak there and just have a coffee or something.

695
00:42:35.119 --> 00:42:40.199
<v Speaker 2>And what I got was that he is from the Pleiades,

696
00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:44.119
<v Speaker 2>that's where his home star system is. I got that strongly.

697
00:42:44.719 --> 00:42:48.960
<v Speaker 2>But these beings that were visiting him were connected to

698
00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:53.440
<v Speaker 2>the Serious star system. And Sirius is the brightest star

699
00:42:53.559 --> 00:42:56.320
<v Speaker 2>in the night sky in the northern hemisphere, just to

700
00:42:56.400 --> 00:42:59.679
<v Speaker 2>the left of the Orion constellation. So in the falling

701
00:42:59.719 --> 00:43:02.039
<v Speaker 2>winter you can see it rising to the leftover Orion.

702
00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:06.800
<v Speaker 2>It's very bright. That's Series A, and then there's also

703
00:43:06.800 --> 00:43:10.440
<v Speaker 2>a Series B, which is a dwarf. But his ets

704
00:43:10.480 --> 00:43:15.559
<v Speaker 2>were coming from one of the planets around that those

705
00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:19.039
<v Speaker 2>star systems. They were either in our dimension. They were

706
00:43:19.079 --> 00:43:21.159
<v Speaker 2>coming from our dimension or another one, and they were

707
00:43:21.360 --> 00:43:25.480
<v Speaker 2>lowering their vibration to be here. But these ets I

708
00:43:25.599 --> 00:43:29.000
<v Speaker 2>was getting, they were mischievous. They didn't they weren't real

709
00:43:29.320 --> 00:43:35.239
<v Speaker 2>super evolved, and so they didn't know how to behave

710
00:43:35.599 --> 00:43:39.639
<v Speaker 2>basically in a way that made the client comfortable. He

711
00:43:39.760 --> 00:43:44.400
<v Speaker 2>was uncomfortable with their energy. They didn't do anything negative,

712
00:43:44.960 --> 00:43:50.559
<v Speaker 2>but they made him uncomfortable. So that's an example of mischievous. Now.

713
00:43:51.599 --> 00:43:54.719
<v Speaker 2>I had somebody I met once. This is totally by chance.

714
00:43:54.800 --> 00:43:58.599
<v Speaker 2>She was a friend of a friend that I know

715
00:43:59.400 --> 00:44:02.679
<v Speaker 2>they were. I do write about this in the book.

716
00:44:04.199 --> 00:44:07.800
<v Speaker 2>My friend's friend just started sharing this at the breakfast

717
00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:11.519
<v Speaker 2>table after breakfast, since we were talking about ET stuff,

718
00:44:12.280 --> 00:44:16.199
<v Speaker 2>and she said that she's struggled with a memory of

719
00:44:16.239 --> 00:44:20.800
<v Speaker 2>being a reptilian on Earth way back when, thousands of

720
00:44:20.920 --> 00:44:24.159
<v Speaker 2>years ago, and her mission was to protect a certain

721
00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:28.639
<v Speaker 2>positive reptilian being on Earth, a military man. She got

722
00:44:28.639 --> 00:44:33.360
<v Speaker 2>here too late and he had been killed by a

723
00:44:33.440 --> 00:44:39.519
<v Speaker 2>combatant reptilian group that didn't want this military leader to succeed.

724
00:44:41.079 --> 00:44:46.519
<v Speaker 2>So we talked about it. A spirit came in, one

725
00:44:46.519 --> 00:44:50.639
<v Speaker 2>of her spirit folk from her home world came in

726
00:44:50.719 --> 00:44:55.000
<v Speaker 2>over my shoulder and told said, tell her that we

727
00:44:55.079 --> 00:44:59.280
<v Speaker 2>love her. It's not her fault. Please know that you

728
00:44:59.360 --> 00:45:02.239
<v Speaker 2>can let go of that grief because it wasn't your fault.

729
00:45:03.039 --> 00:45:04.840
<v Speaker 2>And I told her this, and she said she could

730
00:45:04.880 --> 00:45:07.320
<v Speaker 2>see flashes of light over my shoulder and then she

731
00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:10.079
<v Speaker 2>could feel his energy. At one point when I asked

732
00:45:10.159 --> 00:45:12.880
<v Speaker 2>him to move into her field, she could feel this

733
00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:17.039
<v Speaker 2>is ET. And what we did together at that point

734
00:45:17.079 --> 00:45:19.280
<v Speaker 2>was do a little bit of energy work and forgiveness

735
00:45:19.320 --> 00:45:22.880
<v Speaker 2>work so that she could release that trauma. And so

736
00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:26.440
<v Speaker 2>that was an example of a negative reptilian race that

737
00:45:26.519 --> 00:45:29.920
<v Speaker 2>she encountered way back thousands of years ago to put

738
00:45:29.920 --> 00:45:34.800
<v Speaker 2>a little more validity behind this. Little statuettes and figurines

739
00:45:34.800 --> 00:45:38.639
<v Speaker 2>have been found in Iraq of reptilian beings. These are

740
00:45:38.639 --> 00:45:41.079
<v Speaker 2>statues that maybe you're ten twelve inches high and you

741
00:45:41.119 --> 00:45:44.280
<v Speaker 2>may maybe have seen these on ancient aliens or something

742
00:45:44.559 --> 00:45:48.239
<v Speaker 2>like this one where I've seen the reptilian woman holding

743
00:45:48.280 --> 00:45:52.280
<v Speaker 2>a reptilian baby and the baby's breastfeeding. We have evidence

744
00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:54.480
<v Speaker 2>like that too as well.

745
00:45:54.599 --> 00:45:59.320
<v Speaker 1>Okay, one last question here from Philip, a good fan

746
00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:02.039
<v Speaker 1>of the show. Here, what do you think of Chris Bledsoe.

747
00:46:02.920 --> 00:46:05.400
<v Speaker 1>He has had some of the same religious things that

748
00:46:05.440 --> 00:46:07.599
<v Speaker 1>you were talking about. Are you familiar with who he is?

749
00:46:08.199 --> 00:46:13.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, I've met Chris and he's an amazing guy. Honestly,

750
00:46:13.599 --> 00:46:15.679
<v Speaker 2>I'll share why in a second. I don't know why

751
00:46:15.719 --> 00:46:23.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm getting choked up, excuse me. Sure. So, I was

752
00:46:23.800 --> 00:46:27.239
<v Speaker 2>at the Contact in the Desert conference at the end

753
00:46:27.280 --> 00:46:30.639
<v Speaker 2>of May in early June this year, first time to

754
00:46:30.719 --> 00:46:35.360
<v Speaker 2>sell books and meet people. I met Chris and he

755
00:46:35.480 --> 00:46:41.239
<v Speaker 2>carries a very unique energy. His energy was high vibration, divine,

756
00:46:41.320 --> 00:46:46.639
<v Speaker 2>feminine energy. It was radiating from his heart in his eyes.

757
00:46:46.679 --> 00:46:50.159
<v Speaker 2>You could see it, Martin, in his eyes they were

758
00:46:50.280 --> 00:46:53.119
<v Speaker 2>just there was a high spirit in his eyes. He

759
00:46:53.199 --> 00:46:59.000
<v Speaker 2>was carrying that high vibration divine connection. And I felt

760
00:46:59.079 --> 00:47:01.840
<v Speaker 2>that wayumber of times when I'm in that high vibration

761
00:47:02.000 --> 00:47:05.440
<v Speaker 2>state for a number of days. But his heart was

762
00:47:05.480 --> 00:47:10.199
<v Speaker 2>just radiating this divine energy. And I told one of

763
00:47:10.199 --> 00:47:13.039
<v Speaker 2>the guys that was near him, one of his protectors,

764
00:47:13.760 --> 00:47:17.000
<v Speaker 2>one of his warriors, and I said, I shared that

765
00:47:17.039 --> 00:47:19.079
<v Speaker 2>with him, and he said, yeah, a lot of people,

766
00:47:19.400 --> 00:47:23.400
<v Speaker 2>a number of people have sensed that on him. This

767
00:47:23.480 --> 00:47:26.800
<v Speaker 2>guy's connected. What he shared in his book Ufo of God,

768
00:47:26.840 --> 00:47:30.119
<v Speaker 2>he talked about that divine connection come in and he

769
00:47:30.199 --> 00:47:31.039
<v Speaker 2>still carries that.

770
00:47:32.360 --> 00:47:35.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, thank you so much. This has definitely

771
00:47:35.480 --> 00:47:39.320
<v Speaker 1>been interesting, and the link is going to be down below.

772
00:47:39.400 --> 00:47:42.880
<v Speaker 1>And just to let everyone know we have Luigi is

773
00:47:42.920 --> 00:47:44.679
<v Speaker 1>going to be on. We're going to be talking about

774
00:47:45.199 --> 00:47:47.960
<v Speaker 1>Bob Blazar sorry next week. Just trying to figure out

775
00:47:47.960 --> 00:47:50.639
<v Speaker 1>how to close everything out here. So once again, I

776
00:47:50.760 --> 00:47:53.280
<v Speaker 1>just want to I want to thank you for being

777
00:47:53.280 --> 00:47:56.519
<v Speaker 1>on the show tonight and I appreciate it, all right,

778
00:47:56.639 --> 00:48:00.079
<v Speaker 1>you okay, all right, take care all righty once so,

779
00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:02.880
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for hanging in here, and remember

780
00:48:02.880 --> 00:48:07.280
<v Speaker 1>to keep your eyes to the sky.