1 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,559 Speaker 1: Hello, this is Martin Willis. I'm your host and we 2 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:26,839 have our guest. Tonight's our second NASA person, second live 3 00:00:26,879 --> 00:00:30,320 show for the evening. I'm pretty excited to have Greg Martins. 4 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:34,840 He's an award winning author, intuitive and retired aerospace engineer. 5 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,399 He spent thirty five years at NASA's Guarded Space Flight Center. 6 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,320 I was actually there visiting and I did see when 7 00:00:42,679 --> 00:00:46,640 the web telescope was being created. It was pretty It 8 00:00:46,719 --> 00:00:51,240 was actually quite fascinating. So during Greg's career he worked 9 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:56,000 on Space Shuttle payloads and satellite systems, including the Lunar 10 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:03,079 Reconnaissance Orbiter. Alongside that highly technical work, he privately explored meditation, 11 00:01:03,679 --> 00:01:07,640 remote viewing, astro travel, and all kinds of interesting things. 12 00:01:07,719 --> 00:01:11,159 His book Star Journey Home, Connect with Your Home Planet 13 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,560 and Over Seoul brings those seemingly different worlds together. Greg, 14 00:01:15,799 --> 00:01:19,640 Welcome to podcast UFO and I'll bring you in right now. 15 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,799 Speaker 2: Welcome, Thank you, glad to be here. 16 00:01:22,359 --> 00:01:25,359 Speaker 1: So good to have you second NASA person for the night. 17 00:01:25,439 --> 00:01:30,079 I'm honored by that. So, yeah, did you follow when 18 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,319 they were looking into the UAP topic? Do you follow 19 00:01:34,359 --> 00:01:34,680 any of that? 20 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, the release of the files on the Trump you're 21 00:01:38,439 --> 00:01:39,079 talking about. 22 00:01:39,519 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: No, I'm when actually NASA got involved and that was 23 00:01:43,519 --> 00:01:46,640 my last guest. He was involved in that task force 24 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,239 that was supposed to be looking into UFO. See some 25 00:01:49,359 --> 00:01:52,480 of the things didn't exactly go the way he was hoping. 26 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:55,760 So just saying hello, right everyone in chat, thank you 27 00:01:55,799 --> 00:01:57,799 for being here. Yeah, sorry, go ahead. 28 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not familiar with the ones that NASA would 29 00:02:00,599 --> 00:02:01,680 have been directly looking at. 30 00:02:02,879 --> 00:02:06,959 Speaker 1: So what was it like working for NASA and did 31 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:11,560 you ever have any water cooler talk about the possibility 32 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:12,520 of extraterrestrials. 33 00:02:13,719 --> 00:02:16,319 Speaker 2: Working at NASA. Godard at Space Flight Center was my 34 00:02:16,479 --> 00:02:20,439 dream job and I landed it during my senior year 35 00:02:20,479 --> 00:02:24,719 in college. I was awarded an internship there from the 36 00:02:24,759 --> 00:02:29,360 mechanical engineering branch so at that time that was nineteen 37 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:34,240 eighty three and a Space Shuttle program which is coming online. 38 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,120 So I got to work on sounding rockets and payloads 39 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,719 that would put in the Space Shuttle to hold experiments. 40 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:46,159 And then I moved on to work on space satellites 41 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,599 that would be Earth orbiting or would go to the 42 00:02:48,599 --> 00:02:51,479 Moon or two of the Sun in my later years 43 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,120 at NASA. So my thirty five years at Godard Space 44 00:02:55,199 --> 00:03:00,159 Flight Center was amazing. I had an amazing career, was 45 00:03:00,159 --> 00:03:04,639 my dream job, so amazing people there, really good group 46 00:03:04,719 --> 00:03:06,240 to work with, very professional. 47 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: Yes, I had a friend he's passed away since, but 48 00:03:10,439 --> 00:03:13,919 he was a longtime UFO researcher, Ray Stanford, and his 49 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:18,240 wife was working at Godard, so we visited over there, 50 00:03:18,719 --> 00:03:21,240 and I couldn't believe when I was watching all those 51 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:25,199 guys dressed in their environmental white suits, very clean room 52 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,280 and where they were working on the telescope. And I 53 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,919 took a bunch of pictures. That was really great being there, 54 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,280 and I met someone that was actually very interested in 55 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:35,800 the UFO topic. 56 00:03:35,879 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 2: That was a long time. 57 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: He'd been there for over thirty years, so that was fun. 58 00:03:41,159 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 2: And Martin, you did ask a question about water cooler, 59 00:03:43,719 --> 00:03:46,960 talk about it. You have both books of Terrestrials. I 60 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,280 did have conversations like that with a few, just a 61 00:03:51,319 --> 00:03:54,120 few people at NASA Goddard that believed in that kind 62 00:03:54,159 --> 00:03:57,360 of thing and that worked in the metaphysical realm as well. 63 00:03:58,039 --> 00:04:01,639 So there was no talk about down UFOs and Area 64 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:06,280 fifty one and was in a NASA employee working on 65 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,840 anything to do with UFOs, and that conversation never came up. 66 00:04:10,919 --> 00:04:15,800 So if any employees at Goddard we're working on extraterrestrial 67 00:04:15,879 --> 00:04:20,639 stuff or extraterrestrial rocks, that maybe that came from Mars. 68 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:22,720 We didn't hear about it. 69 00:04:23,439 --> 00:04:29,639 Speaker 1: Okay, So you were working in an environment built around engineering, 70 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,639 evidence and precision. How did you reconcile that with the 71 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,279 experiences involving intuition and consciousness? 72 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,199 Speaker 2: Martin? I never had a conflict with it. I started 73 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:46,920 my exploration of consciousness and the human energy field and 74 00:04:47,079 --> 00:04:51,879 dreams at the Sleeping Dreams and UFOs all in high school. 75 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:56,319 So yeah, that's where it all began. I was heavily 76 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,639 into it when I was seventeen and eighteen, and I 77 00:04:59,759 --> 00:05:03,000 was very interested in working at Nasagard and Space Flight Center. 78 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,120 At that time, that was my goal, and I figured 79 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,000 I'd go to college and then I try to become 80 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,680 an astronaut. And I changed my mind during college, but 81 00:05:10,759 --> 00:05:13,360 I did manage to get a job at Goddard, and 82 00:05:13,959 --> 00:05:18,079 I didn't see a conflict between the idea of higher 83 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,920 consciousness and other dimensions and UFOs and ETS. I didn't 84 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:26,279 see a conflict between that and engineering and science. To me, 85 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,079 it was all kind of one of the same you 86 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:29,120 just got to explore it. 87 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: I see, So I guess I want to ask you 88 00:05:33,759 --> 00:05:38,800 how did your journey go through what you got involved 89 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:42,199 in later, But actually before that, I do want to 90 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:49,160 mention something about consciousness because I don't really understand consciousness. 91 00:05:49,399 --> 00:05:53,680 And also a lot of people are saying that the UFO, 92 00:05:54,199 --> 00:05:59,040 like summoning and people that see UFOs, it has to 93 00:05:59,079 --> 00:06:01,560 do with the conscience, and I don't really get that, 94 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,680 especially when it comes to the public siting where there's 95 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,240 many witnesses and things like that. But I just want 96 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,120 to know, how do you feel there's a connection there, 97 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,920 or try to explain it to me because I can't 98 00:06:12,959 --> 00:06:14,439 really understand it. 99 00:06:15,439 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 2: Okay, let's say we're walking through the woods and we're 100 00:06:19,319 --> 00:06:23,360 in a peaceful state. Sometimes in that state we can 101 00:06:23,639 --> 00:06:27,120 feel the energy of the plants or the trees in 102 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:31,240 some subtle way, or we feel the nice energy of 103 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:37,600 the environment feels clean and pure. Our heart opens, our 104 00:06:37,639 --> 00:06:41,279 senses tend to elevate, our five senses, and then our 105 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:46,680 intuitive senses tend to elevate too. We all have intuition, 106 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,160 so we have the gut feeling, and we have the 107 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,240 love that comes from our hearts. Sorry, I hit the mic, 108 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,560 we have the love that comes from our heart, and 109 00:06:55,600 --> 00:07:00,279 then we have this knowing, an intuitive knowing. Those are 110 00:07:00,319 --> 00:07:03,279 the three that people mainly have, and I think everybody's 111 00:07:03,639 --> 00:07:06,519 experienced them at some time or another in their lives. 112 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:11,319 So that is an example of higher consciousness. It's the 113 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:15,560 finer vibration aspect of who we are. We have an 114 00:07:15,639 --> 00:07:19,680 energy field which is made up of an electromagnetic field 115 00:07:19,959 --> 00:07:24,240 magnetic field because we're we are electrochemical beings, so we 116 00:07:24,319 --> 00:07:27,759 have a magnetic field to dipole, and then we have 117 00:07:29,439 --> 00:07:35,439 a spirit life force energy. And what happens is so 118 00:07:36,399 --> 00:07:38,120 we have the physical body, and then we have the 119 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,879 intuitive senses, and we have the seven main chakras in 120 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,480 our body, the heart chakra being one, and the solar 121 00:07:44,519 --> 00:07:47,240 pluxus where we feel that gut feeling or that knowing 122 00:07:47,759 --> 00:07:50,800 is located. And with the heart chakra, let's say when 123 00:07:50,839 --> 00:07:54,759 we feel love for somebody or for a beautiful plant 124 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,279 or a child or an animal, what's happening there is 125 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:02,920 we're feeling through through our energy field and it goes 126 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,920 in through that heart chakra and it stimulates our hormones 127 00:08:05,959 --> 00:08:10,720 there and we feel these nice chemicals washing through our body, 128 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:15,600 and so that heart chakra is where we're an energy 129 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:19,319 connection to our animal or our loved one, or anything 130 00:08:19,399 --> 00:08:23,519 out in nature is connecting into this. Those are sensors. 131 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:28,360 So that's an example of higher consciousness in action. And 132 00:08:28,439 --> 00:08:31,040 when we go into the dream state at night, when 133 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:35,720 we're sleeping, we go into higher levels of consciousness. We 134 00:08:35,759 --> 00:08:40,200 also experience our subconscious and we also have access to 135 00:08:40,279 --> 00:08:43,759 many dimensions at that level as well. When we go 136 00:08:43,799 --> 00:08:47,840 into meditation and we get into it just a peaceful space, 137 00:08:47,919 --> 00:08:51,440 we do a couple of deep breaths, relax the body, 138 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:55,000 relax the mind, we slow it down. We notice how 139 00:08:55,039 --> 00:08:58,559 our abrations rises a bit, and maybe we have a 140 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,919 candle going and we have some really good, nice mellow 141 00:09:02,519 --> 00:09:06,200 meditation music going or something. We feel more peaceful, We 142 00:09:06,279 --> 00:09:09,720 feel our energy just relax and take on a nice, 143 00:09:09,759 --> 00:09:15,240 little gentle feeling of peace and wholeness. And in that 144 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:20,320 state then we have already elevated our consciousness and we're 145 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:24,279 more sensitive to higher realms. At that point, we might 146 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:29,639 even feel a spirit come in, or we sense something 147 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:35,639 and that could be a telepathic communication, or we may 148 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:40,080 experience a loved one even come in from a higher realm. 149 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,919 Perhaps they've passed over and we might even sense them 150 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,200 at that point. Come in. We can experience lots of 151 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,120 things in that higher state when we're in meditation. So 152 00:09:49,159 --> 00:09:53,879 that's another example of higher consciousness. I see wow. 153 00:09:54,039 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: And so I guess I have to ask you, how 154 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:00,519 did you start getting into all of this? Was it 155 00:10:00,519 --> 00:10:03,120 it was something you were interested in high school? But 156 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,519 was there some type of event that made you decide 157 00:10:06,519 --> 00:10:09,000 to look at this? You know, I mean it's not 158 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,960 something I generally think of someone in high school actually 159 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:12,639 dabbling with. 160 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,039 Speaker 2: I decided I wanted to shoot for being an astronaut 161 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:20,360 when I was in sixth grade, Martin. You know, yeah, 162 00:10:20,759 --> 00:10:24,440 that's thirteen years old, right. So I remember standing on 163 00:10:24,519 --> 00:10:28,039 my back porch in Massachusetts where I grew up at 164 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,559 night looking up at the stars, and even if it 165 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,240 was winter cold out, I just go out and look, 166 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,799 turn off the porch light and just look and thinking 167 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,320 there's got to be something up there. There's got to 168 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,000 be some people up there. Little did I know, my 169 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:45,799 intuition was calling me and it knew and so it 170 00:10:45,919 --> 00:10:49,080 started at that age. And I tell you, Martin, when 171 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,759 I was thirteen, I had a UFO go over my house. 172 00:10:52,279 --> 00:10:55,960 It went over very slowly. I looked out the window. 173 00:10:56,039 --> 00:10:57,600 I happened to be near the window, and I saw 174 00:10:57,639 --> 00:11:01,039 it going over. The window was up, the window shade 175 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,799 was up as well. It was August. It had a 176 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,440 low pitch hum. It had at least three bright lights 177 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,120 I saw on the bottom of it, and it was 178 00:11:09,279 --> 00:11:12,440 very low going over my house, and it moved slowly 179 00:11:12,519 --> 00:11:15,519 over the house. So I just watched it continue to 180 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,679 go over. I saw it when it was already partially 181 00:11:17,759 --> 00:11:22,159 gone over the house. So that was when I was thirteen, 182 00:11:22,279 --> 00:11:27,279 and that probably influenced me. My mom she was interested 183 00:11:27,279 --> 00:11:31,919 in metaphysics. She was into Jane Roberts, who channels higher 184 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,559 consciousness being named Seth and I read one of those 185 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:40,200 books and that blew my mind, looking into metaphysics, the 186 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,279 nature of consciousness and reality and the dream state and 187 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,320 remote viewing and what are we like in higher levels 188 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,320 of consciousness and what's going on in between lives and 189 00:11:50,639 --> 00:11:53,960 past lives, and that was fascinating. And I read Bob 190 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,799 and Rose's first book, Journeys Out of the Body, about 191 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:00,399 remote remote viewing and about astral travel. And I was 192 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,600 studying UFO stuff the UFO and my mom there were 193 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,039 two catalysts, and I think the rest of it was 194 00:12:06,159 --> 00:12:09,320 just an innate knowing and I just started exploring this stuff. 195 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:14,159 Speaker 1: Oh very wow. So you actually worked with a move 196 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:19,879 on investigator who reportedly encountered a gray yep, and so 197 00:12:19,919 --> 00:12:21,240 you can you talk a little bit about that. 198 00:12:21,879 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. I heard her give a talk at a UFO conference, 199 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,919 was rather small conference, and at that time, I was 200 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:33,000 working with the Akashak Records. I was the Kashak Records 201 00:12:33,039 --> 00:12:37,799 being an energy library of every event, person, and place 202 00:12:37,879 --> 00:12:41,799 that's ever existed. Those energies are they never go away 203 00:12:42,279 --> 00:12:45,679 past events. The energies are always there and they are 204 00:12:45,799 --> 00:12:49,840 organized in what people call the Akashak Records by spirits 205 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:51,840 that work with those records. So I've been working with 206 00:12:51,879 --> 00:12:56,120 the Acaheak records. People's soul records are there, and I'd 207 00:12:56,159 --> 00:12:59,480 been looking into where people are from, where their home worlds, 208 00:13:00,039 --> 00:13:02,279 and what about their oversoul, what do they look like 209 00:13:02,399 --> 00:13:05,159 on their home planet, the over so being the parent 210 00:13:05,279 --> 00:13:09,879 on the home planet of the person. And I talked 211 00:13:09,919 --> 00:13:12,840 to this woman after she gave her talk, and I 212 00:13:12,879 --> 00:13:16,159 asked her if she'd like me to look into the 213 00:13:16,279 --> 00:13:19,679 experience she had with that gray when she was doing 214 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:25,799 a field investigation for a client working for Moufon, and 215 00:13:25,879 --> 00:13:27,919 she said, yes, I'd love for you to look into this. 216 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,919 Here's a little bit about it. She withheld a lot 217 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,960 of information, so I went in and I did an 218 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,600 a Kashak record reading on it. I called in my 219 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:42,320 spirit that works with the Akasak Records. His name was Abraham, 220 00:13:42,919 --> 00:13:46,399 and I asked him questions and he gave me answers, 221 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:51,720 and then I reported it back to the field investigator 222 00:13:51,759 --> 00:13:55,159 on the phone. A few days later, after I ran 223 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,279 it by my mentor, who got me interested in doing 224 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,799 this kind of work. She felt that what I received 225 00:14:01,879 --> 00:14:05,559 from my reader of the Kashuk records was correct because 226 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,679 she checked in with her reader of the Kashuk records 227 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,639 and compared notes, so you know what I got. When 228 00:14:10,879 --> 00:14:15,000 the story goes, she had seen a gray in the 229 00:14:15,039 --> 00:14:19,879 field not probably twenty feet from her at night with 230 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,759 the owner and a trainee she had with her from Mufon, 231 00:14:23,799 --> 00:14:27,080 and they all looked at this gray with flashlights out, 232 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:27,519 and my. 233 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: Who you're talking about? 234 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:33,639 Speaker 2: They freaked out and ran. 235 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, Chase, you talk about Chase. 236 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:40,679 Speaker 2: That's correct, And she said that she ran in terror, 237 00:14:40,919 --> 00:14:44,679 and it was something that was not by choice. It 238 00:14:44,759 --> 00:14:46,879 was something that her mind and body made her do. 239 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:51,120 And she asked me about that, what was that terror about? 240 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,399 When what I got about that was that this gray 241 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:58,240 et is connected to his other gray ets up on 242 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:02,000 a craft. These craft were coming in every night, and 243 00:15:02,879 --> 00:15:06,159 I got that this et was scared having a flash 244 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,240 light in its face and knowing these were humans. So 245 00:15:09,279 --> 00:15:13,120 he was scared, and then so all the grays that 246 00:15:13,159 --> 00:15:17,799 he was connected to on the collective consciousness were scared 247 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:22,320 for him. And that we laid back into her energy 248 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,120 field and she could feel that. So it was a 249 00:15:25,159 --> 00:15:29,679 result of an energy connection with the gray that in 250 00:15:29,759 --> 00:15:33,279 terms of why she felt so much terror. That's probably 251 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,399 the biggest part about that whole experience. 252 00:15:36,679 --> 00:15:39,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is such an amazing story. I had to 253 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,279 her on I don't know, all the way back in 254 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:45,440 like twenty eleven, twenty twelve, and yeah, it's quite an 255 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:49,919 amazing story how those things were showing up every night. 256 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:55,320 And the story goes that they she first saw like 257 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:59,039 a light show, like all these lights interacting with each other. 258 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:04,159 And she quietly told me who owned the property, which 259 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,879 is someone that is kind of known in certain circles. 260 00:16:06,919 --> 00:16:10,360 So I can't say his name, but still that whole 261 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,919 story was so weird and scary, and it drained all 262 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:18,120 the batteries on their video cameras, and so many different 263 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:21,759 things happened that night. Yeah, great story, A little. 264 00:16:21,559 --> 00:16:23,399 Speaker 2: Bit more to share about it. I got that those 265 00:16:23,879 --> 00:16:28,399 Grays were benevolent and that they were coming to do research. 266 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,200 They were studying the energies in that area because it 267 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,639 had been flooded, and so they were coming over every 268 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:41,039 night to do some studies these ets, and they felt 269 00:16:41,039 --> 00:16:44,399 comfortable coming to the property. They didn't feel threatened. So 270 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,559 there's a you know, chuckling up for the benevolent Grays 271 00:16:48,679 --> 00:16:50,399 because they get a bad rap usually. 272 00:16:52,519 --> 00:16:55,919 Speaker 1: So as far as do you think some of these things, 273 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,320 I think I saw where that you believe that there 274 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:06,799 could be extraterrestrial visitation, multi dimensional contact, and also with consciousness. 275 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:12,160 So are you just exploring all the different ideas. 276 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 2: I agree with everything you just said that beings from 277 00:17:17,079 --> 00:17:20,839 ets from different dimensions certainly visit the planet, and a 278 00:17:20,839 --> 00:17:23,359 lot of them stay in another dimension so that they 279 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:27,559 don't get detected by our military or our government, and 280 00:17:27,599 --> 00:17:31,240 they can come into our dimension if they choose, and 281 00:17:32,599 --> 00:17:40,119 some of them are from our dimension. So plaps up 282 00:17:40,279 --> 00:17:45,000 nicely with the concept of where people are from and 283 00:17:45,039 --> 00:17:49,759 their home planets because a lot of many clients, most clients, 284 00:17:50,039 --> 00:17:54,119 ninety five percent of them, I have found their home 285 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:58,720 planets are in dimensions that are higher than the Earth plane. 286 00:17:59,279 --> 00:18:01,640 So we went there in a spaceship, we might not 287 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,640 even see the planet, or we would see the planet 288 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:06,839 and we wouldn't see the beings on the planet if 289 00:18:06,839 --> 00:18:10,279 they're in a higher vibration dimension. And that's just how 290 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:15,160 it works. So many of these ET's that are coming 291 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:19,599 here come from a different universe or a different dimension altogether, 292 00:18:20,039 --> 00:18:23,160 and they can move into our dimension. If they bring 293 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:27,240 their ship into our dimension from their dimension, we might 294 00:18:27,279 --> 00:18:31,160 see our atmosphere ionize, and so we see a glowing 295 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,759 energy around their craft. A lot of people say they 296 00:18:34,799 --> 00:18:37,880 see that kind of thing. It could just be plasma 297 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,720 around the craft that they're seeing. I don't have any 298 00:18:40,839 --> 00:18:45,279 real experience with the orbs and ets. My only experience 299 00:18:45,319 --> 00:18:49,119 with orbs really would be that I've come across them 300 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:54,920 and found that they were nature spirits. Does that answer 301 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,440 your question about ET's and dimensions? Yes? 302 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,559 Speaker 1: And also I just have to mention that a lot 303 00:19:00,559 --> 00:19:03,400 of people know when I've talked in the past about 304 00:19:03,519 --> 00:19:05,880 the UFO sighting that I had that got me into 305 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:09,720 this whole situation in Carmel Valley back in two thousand 306 00:19:09,759 --> 00:19:14,039 and seven. Was the object was a disc and it 307 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,960 had a light blue glow around it, like an electric 308 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:20,839 blue glow soft around the edge of it all the 309 00:19:20,839 --> 00:19:24,680 way around, and plasma. I'm not sure what it was, 310 00:19:24,759 --> 00:19:27,160 but there was no sound in the particular one that 311 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:27,640 I had. 312 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that would make sense that it was ionizing the 313 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,319 atmosphere because a lot of these craft have a magnetic 314 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:37,599 fields around them or electric fields and they're hovering and 315 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:42,599 they do that with their anti gravity propulsion, and it 316 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,519 meant that a movie fire in the sky yep where 317 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:50,079 the traverse Yeah, Yeah, Travis Wallton where he was zapped 318 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:54,640 by an energy electric shock basically, So the way that 319 00:19:54,839 --> 00:19:57,039 goes is I think he got between the craft and 320 00:19:57,079 --> 00:20:01,039 the ground and he acted as a ground for the 321 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,960 electric field around the craft, and so that electricity went 322 00:20:05,039 --> 00:20:07,920 from the craft through him to the earth. So he 323 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,000 was electrocuted, and they brought him on the craft and 324 00:20:10,039 --> 00:20:13,119 they rebuilt his body and then they put him back 325 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,839 out on the earth. I did talk with him in 326 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,880 person at a UFO conference and he said that, yeah, 327 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,599 that's what happened. He got injured and they brought him 328 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:23,920 on the craft and they healed him. 329 00:20:24,559 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know. I've had that conversation with him 330 00:20:27,279 --> 00:20:29,519 a number of times. I know you talk a lot 331 00:20:29,559 --> 00:20:32,400 about dreams and meditations and encounters, and I just want 332 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,200 to bring something up because I think it's very interesting 333 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,319 and I think you'd find it interesting. Two different people. 334 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,279 Now we're getting a little bit feedback here. Let me 335 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,880 just take care of your mic for right now. So, 336 00:20:44,039 --> 00:20:47,559 two different people that I know, on two different sides 337 00:20:47,559 --> 00:20:52,200 of the country, two conversations, had basically the same dream. 338 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,200 And one is a friend out in Oregon and one 339 00:20:56,279 --> 00:20:59,720 is someone right here that I know very well that 340 00:21:00,759 --> 00:21:04,599 they are going to be contacted when the time is 341 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,319 right and there's something that they have to do, and 342 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,880 they will know what to do. Two different people told 343 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:10,799 me the same story. 344 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 2: Yep, yep, that makes total sense. I've been up on 345 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:21,200 et craft three times, fully conscious and out of body state, 346 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,319 and they took me up during Native American Visionquest ceremony, 347 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:30,759 twice by Office Centauri beings and once by Pleaadians and 348 00:21:30,839 --> 00:21:34,200 I've certainly connected with playadians and office Centauri beings and 349 00:21:34,279 --> 00:21:39,200 meditation a number of times, lots of experiences over the decades. 350 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:46,079 And my sense about this stuff is that what they 351 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:51,599 do with me and they don't let me remember the conversations, 352 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:59,279 is that they're preparing me and I guess enhancing me 353 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,920 in whatever way they feel is appropriate, downloads and whatever 354 00:22:03,039 --> 00:22:06,640 is appropriate for my soul growth and my work in 355 00:22:06,759 --> 00:22:09,279 case that there's a need for it in the future, 356 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,759 and that I will know what to do as well, 357 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,440 especially with the alphae centaury beings, that if they have 358 00:22:15,519 --> 00:22:18,759 a need to use me to help out with an 359 00:22:18,799 --> 00:22:22,240 interaction between them and the Earth humans, that I would 360 00:22:22,279 --> 00:22:24,720 be activated, so to speak, and I would know what 361 00:22:24,799 --> 00:22:29,119 to do, and I'd be an ambassador in certain in 362 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,359 a way to do that function. So I firmly believe 363 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,880 that's going on and it's just fine with me, and 364 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:37,920 I believe other people are in that role as well. 365 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 1: So when wait a minute, we have a question here 366 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:48,920 and chat here the intersection, I and I think others 367 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:54,039 want to understand that technology all of the spiritual realities 368 00:22:54,039 --> 00:22:58,440 you describe. My intuition says ets use tech to amplify 369 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,319 spirit content. What is your views on that. 370 00:23:03,759 --> 00:23:06,799 Speaker 2: There's an energy implant that was put into my energy 371 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,200 field over here on the left side of my neck 372 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:15,519 when I was in my forties or fifties. I'm sixty 373 00:23:15,519 --> 00:23:20,359 five now, and I didn't know what that energy was. 374 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,119 It was uncomfortable in my neck, the energy in my 375 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,559 neck for a long time, not that it hurt or anything, 376 00:23:25,599 --> 00:23:28,279 but it was just weird to feel it. And eventually 377 00:23:28,319 --> 00:23:31,599 an intuitive told me that it was a communication device. 378 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:36,920 It was transmitter of sorts, and she said that was 379 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,319 being that was in there so that I could connect 380 00:23:40,319 --> 00:23:42,920 in with some of the technology that the ets used, 381 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:47,279 connecting to their craft. And there was a time too 382 00:23:47,319 --> 00:23:49,720 when I felt a spirit when I was lying in 383 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,480 bed meditating, getting ready to fall asleep, and I felt 384 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,920 a spirit come in on my left, another one come 385 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:56,960 in on my right, and another one come in behind me, 386 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,720 and I guess two of them were holding space, and 387 00:24:00,759 --> 00:24:03,920 the one on my left reached in and tweaked the 388 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:09,480 energy implant and then exited about ten seconds later, and 389 00:24:09,519 --> 00:24:13,400 then they left. So I said, I guess they needed 390 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,680 to tweak it for some reason. And so that to 391 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:21,960 me is a technological interface, and I've never heard them 392 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:26,440 in my head coming through that transmitter or whatever. But 393 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,440 that's an example of a tech technology that they could 394 00:24:29,559 --> 00:24:33,400 use to communicate. The other one would be I remember 395 00:24:33,519 --> 00:24:36,440 having a dream as a teenager where I was in 396 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,400 a small room, sitting in a chair, and there was 397 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:42,000 a screen in front of me and these symbols were 398 00:24:42,039 --> 00:24:46,440 scrolling down two columns and I'm just watching them, and 399 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:50,039 there was green color on the screen beside these symbols. 400 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:55,279 So here's an example of I think ET's were maybe 401 00:24:55,319 --> 00:24:59,319 downloading something into my brain through these symbols. The symbols 402 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:04,079 had some per It's a technology, so what was it 403 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,279 doing to my mind? I don't know. But there's two 404 00:25:06,319 --> 00:25:08,960 examples of some technology interface. 405 00:25:10,079 --> 00:25:14,319 Speaker 1: Oh how about that? So here's another question. Hang on, 406 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,640 let me just get your mic here. It's another question here. 407 00:25:18,559 --> 00:25:22,640 Do you believe there are more aliens than gray aliens 408 00:25:22,759 --> 00:25:25,559 or just feel the grays are the only ones that 409 00:25:25,599 --> 00:25:26,400 have visited Earth. 410 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 2: There's many types they're visiting Earth. The grays are just 411 00:25:30,759 --> 00:25:34,000 one type, and some of the grays are benevolent, and 412 00:25:34,039 --> 00:25:38,160 some of them don't really have the emotion and they 413 00:25:38,319 --> 00:25:40,480 kind of do what they're told and then some probably 414 00:25:40,559 --> 00:25:45,000 have more of a self centered agenda. And there's Reptilians 415 00:25:45,079 --> 00:25:48,880 and there are some good ones. And then there are 416 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:53,480 a bunch that are that have a selfish and intention 417 00:25:53,599 --> 00:25:55,559 and agenda and they've been coming to here for ages 418 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,319 and a lot of people talk about them in a 419 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,920 negative way because they're not fun to be around. And 420 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,920 then there's a lot of benevolent ET's that are coming 421 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,559 to this planet, a whole group of them. We've got 422 00:26:08,599 --> 00:26:13,680 beings from Sirius, al debroon A Tourists, the Pliades, and 423 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:18,599 stars in Orion. I've found home star systems for clients 424 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:25,720 in Orion in three three different star systems, Raijo, Batl, Juice, 425 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:30,680 and Bellatrix. Those are three main stars and four main 426 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,799 stars that are in there. And I've even connected with 427 00:26:33,839 --> 00:26:38,519 beings that are from a star system from Sigma Orionis 428 00:26:38,559 --> 00:26:41,160 I think it's called It's just below the Belt. In Orion. 429 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,559 We have beings coming from all over the place. 430 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:49,839 Speaker 1: And how I'm sure you encounter skeptics that might say 431 00:26:49,839 --> 00:26:54,680 to you, how can you prove this is pretty I 432 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,319 have to say out there stuff, And how do you 433 00:26:57,319 --> 00:27:00,640 try to convince people that what you're saying saying was 434 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:01,359 really happening. 435 00:27:02,799 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 2: I put a lot of this in my book, and 436 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,599 I chose to put examples in where there was valid 437 00:27:10,039 --> 00:27:13,880 validation coming from other people and corroboration coming from other 438 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:20,000 people to help validate these amazing statements that I'm making. 439 00:27:20,559 --> 00:27:23,759 And in terms of home planets where people are from. 440 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,720 When a person, when a client, here's me tell them, 441 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,240 this is what I got for your home star system. 442 00:27:31,039 --> 00:27:32,799 This is what I got for a name for your oversaul. 443 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,119 This is what I have gotten from your soul record, 444 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,440 the ACACHEC records for what you look like on your 445 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,519 home planet. This is what your form is there, and 446 00:27:42,559 --> 00:27:47,319 they resonate with it. That's a validation. And some have 447 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:52,200 even known this type of information before I even did 448 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:56,079 the reading for them, so the validation comes in that 449 00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:01,279 level as well. Let's say I was taken out a body, 450 00:28:01,319 --> 00:28:05,160 fully conscious on three different Native American vision quest ceremonies. 451 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,000 These ceremonies were done in the ceremonial way, with the 452 00:28:09,079 --> 00:28:12,880 chief putting the vision questers out in a safe way, 453 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:17,000 and we were being monitored course in spirit level by 454 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,519 the chief, and it's all done in a traditional way, 455 00:28:21,279 --> 00:28:23,720 and the chief knew that I was taken up on 456 00:28:23,839 --> 00:28:26,480 board in all three of those because He's just that connected. 457 00:28:26,799 --> 00:28:28,720 And there were other people on the vision quest that 458 00:28:28,839 --> 00:28:33,920 had some experiences involved in my experience of going out 459 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:38,559 of body, so there is further corroboration. And when I 460 00:28:38,599 --> 00:28:43,920 talk about experiencing ET's and dreams. For example, in one 461 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:48,079 particular dream, I had a Pleadian craft come in the 462 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,640 dream world where I was standing in the backyard of 463 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,960 my house in Massachusetts. In the dream, Pladian Craft comes 464 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,119 in over the trees, and then a woman appears next 465 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,839 to me, and she's in street close and she said 466 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,440 some things to me that I couldn't remember after the dream, 467 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:09,680 but the dream seemed very real. And then about a 468 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,880 week later, I was telling a friend of mine at 469 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,319 lunch about the dream, and when I did, I could 470 00:29:16,359 --> 00:29:20,720 feel the energy of the woman come in again on 471 00:29:20,759 --> 00:29:24,079 my left side, so I could feel the energy of 472 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,319 how I felt her in my dream state. So to me, 473 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,359 that was a validation. It was not a dream. This 474 00:29:30,519 --> 00:29:33,559 was something that held truth to it, It held energy 475 00:29:33,599 --> 00:29:37,240 to it. And there are many other stories of corroborations 476 00:29:37,839 --> 00:29:41,319 that I've had with other people about experiences that have 477 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:46,359 had involving extraterstrial communication. I can say that I don't 478 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,279 recall ever having a physical visit with an ET. It's 479 00:29:50,319 --> 00:29:54,400 always been in meditation or dream state or out of 480 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:55,160 body travel. 481 00:29:56,519 --> 00:30:00,119 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, here's another question someone wanted to know. So, 482 00:30:00,599 --> 00:30:03,400 where in Massachusetts did you grow up? Was this the 483 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:03,960 same place? 484 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 2: Oh? Framing him Natick area? Oh yeah, small town called Holliston. 485 00:30:10,759 --> 00:30:13,359 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I spent a lot of time in that 486 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,079 whole area. Another question here from chat. Do you suppose 487 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,680 that ETS talk to the government officials? Might they be 488 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:25,200 forcing the cover ups supposedly on pain of some terrible 489 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,000 punishment of humanity? 490 00:30:30,039 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 2: Yes, the ETS do you talk to government officials In 491 00:30:32,759 --> 00:30:38,559 many of the countries. They probably have even generated some 492 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:44,200 contracts with that government and military industrial complex, and our 493 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:49,519 government being involved on some level. Some of those contracts 494 00:30:49,559 --> 00:30:53,480 may be not in our best interest the human beings 495 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,880 on the planet. The cover up policy that the United 496 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,680 States and the UK still maintain is their own choice. 497 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:06,799 The government and the military and the corporations in the 498 00:31:06,839 --> 00:31:10,759 industrial complex in the military would love to keep as 499 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:16,400 much of the ET technology secret as they can. That way, 500 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,720 they have a military advantage over other countries. They can 501 00:31:19,799 --> 00:31:22,960 back engineer spacecraft. In my opinion, if we look up 502 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,519 in the sky and we see a craft floating in 503 00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:31,720 the sky using zero gravity, we probably there could be 504 00:31:31,759 --> 00:31:34,240 a fifty to fifty chance that craft is either made 505 00:31:34,279 --> 00:31:39,000 in the USA or its sextraterrestrial from another planet. It's 506 00:31:39,039 --> 00:31:42,359 that far advanced. I believe that the United States has 507 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,880 back engineered and worked on making their own craft, and 508 00:31:46,119 --> 00:31:49,559 the UK might be right there with us. So it's 509 00:31:49,599 --> 00:31:52,240 the choice of the governments in my opinion. If they 510 00:31:52,279 --> 00:31:55,920 do have contracts with ETS, and I believe they probably are, 511 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,559 I don't know if they would say don't disclose certain 512 00:31:59,599 --> 00:32:03,519 things like if the ETS in the industrial military industrial 513 00:32:03,559 --> 00:32:06,519 complex have a base underground, which I believe there are, 514 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,640 they wouldn't want to have that location divulged, so that 515 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,799 would need to be kept secret, and the ETS would 516 00:32:13,799 --> 00:32:16,599 appreciate that being kept secret, So in that way they 517 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:17,960 would be an agreement on that. 518 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,839 Speaker 1: I had Mike Herrera on this show. A lot of 519 00:32:22,839 --> 00:32:27,559 people might know him as the ex marine that claims 520 00:32:27,559 --> 00:32:31,359 that he saw a reverse engineered craft. He thought it 521 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:35,559 was a reverse engineer craft that came down and floated 522 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,000 down and then a compartment came down and it was 523 00:32:39,119 --> 00:32:42,119 quite a story. I'm not really sure what to actually 524 00:32:42,119 --> 00:32:44,400 think about that. I think I try to look at 525 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,400 this with an open mind and situations like this. Here's 526 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,279 another question here. Why do you think there are some 527 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:53,680 humans who've had lots of contact but have never encountered 528 00:32:54,119 --> 00:32:58,200 one of the self centered or harmful ets. 529 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,039 Speaker 2: Oh been people that have come across the negative ones. 530 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,160 See what I could talk about with that? Native Americans 531 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:11,279 have talked about negative reptilians and that they've come and 532 00:33:11,319 --> 00:33:19,240 taken some family members at times. Let's see grays. I've 533 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,920 I can only say I've read stories or watched them 534 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,960 in documentaries where people have had experiences with grays that 535 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:31,599 didn't really care about their how they felt, or they 536 00:33:31,599 --> 00:33:33,559 weren't sensitive to how they treated them when they had 537 00:33:33,599 --> 00:33:36,079 them up on their craft and they were doing an 538 00:33:36,079 --> 00:33:40,519 exam on them, for example. I can't talk more about 539 00:33:40,519 --> 00:33:44,960 that because I just don't have the experience. I've experienced 540 00:33:45,119 --> 00:33:48,359 negative reptilians in my energy field when I've done readings 541 00:33:48,359 --> 00:33:52,000 for people doing a home star system reading for somebody, 542 00:33:52,319 --> 00:33:55,960 or you know, looking into their home planet, or or 543 00:33:56,039 --> 00:33:59,440 some other question they might have that involves the cashing records. 544 00:33:59,599 --> 00:34:03,799 But when I'm doing a home star system reading, especially 545 00:34:03,839 --> 00:34:07,160 when I've connected to the Alphae Centauri beings who do 546 00:34:07,359 --> 00:34:12,519 have somewhat of a reptilian perhaps DNA connection in their history, 547 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,840 and I'll be connecting and communicating with a benevolent Alpha 548 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:21,519 Centauri being or two in meditation, and I'll feel a 549 00:34:21,599 --> 00:34:25,199 negative reptilian come into my energy field, and what he 550 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,599 will be doing is trying to distract me or lower 551 00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:33,440 my vibration or disconnect the communication that I'm having with 552 00:34:33,519 --> 00:34:38,320 these benevolent Alpha Centauri beings. And the Ofphice Centauri star 553 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,599 system is our closest star system. It's only four to 554 00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:45,159 five light years away from here, and they're coming here 555 00:34:45,159 --> 00:34:48,320 and visiting Earth and they're doing a bunch of things. 556 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,960 So here's an example of negative reptilians bothering me. But 557 00:34:52,039 --> 00:34:55,159 it's all in an energy state. They're not physically with me. 558 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,440 So what I do is I command the negative reptilians 559 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,400 to the throne of God and the name of Jesus Christ, 560 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:03,639 and then they leave. 561 00:35:05,079 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 1: Okay, here's a question from UFO Jack. Has have you 562 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,199 ever had flashes of lights in your room with no 563 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:13,639 known source of light? 564 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 2: And Jack. 565 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,679 Speaker 1: Jack helps me out here and he's on my show 566 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,559 a bit. So Jack, I'm going to be talking to 567 00:35:19,559 --> 00:35:22,519 you about that in the future, about someone I know 568 00:35:22,639 --> 00:35:23,920 that's had that experience. 569 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,039 Speaker 2: I can't say that I recall ever having that happen 570 00:35:28,159 --> 00:35:32,000 to me. I've been tuned into other dimensions. When I'm 571 00:35:32,039 --> 00:35:34,840 in my bed. I'll wake up and I'll be seeing 572 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,679 my room looks different, the walls are different, and there 573 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,639 is something different next to my bed. I'm experiencing another 574 00:35:42,679 --> 00:35:48,679 dimension at the same time that I'm experiencing my physical 575 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,599 dimension lying in my bed. That can happen to people 576 00:35:51,679 --> 00:35:57,679 during dream state. Excuse me, we're dreaming, we're connected into 577 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,760 another dimension while we're dreaming, and then we wake up 578 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,679 and we have what what I would call is dual consciousness, 579 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,199 where we're experiencing the other place that we were in 580 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,480 when we were dreaming, and we're experiencing our physical dimension. 581 00:36:12,039 --> 00:36:14,639 So we're experiencing both and they blend together and we 582 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,559 see them both in the room where we are when 583 00:36:17,599 --> 00:36:20,800 we wake up. So I've had that happen, but I 584 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,239 haven't had lights come in that I can say that 585 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,199 I remember. Maybe I did, and I just don't Remember. 586 00:36:26,559 --> 00:36:29,679 Speaker 1: Here's another question by Jack. Have you ever seen an 587 00:36:29,679 --> 00:36:32,719 outline of a gray in your room that was more 588 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:33,920 or less translucent. 589 00:36:35,599 --> 00:36:38,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. I've heard people talk about those experiences, but I 590 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:39,800 personally haven't had them. 591 00:36:40,119 --> 00:36:42,639 Speaker 1: Let's see someone saying, what a great guest. Have you 592 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:48,440 ever experimented with DMT to get the telepathy of aliens 593 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,559 when you have been on the UFOs or at home? 594 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,320 So many people talk about that. Now, I just want 595 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,159 to say something before you answer that, is I have 596 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:02,800 some connection that's in my other world, which is in 597 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,920 the appraisal business of fine art and antiques. I'm very 598 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,440 active in that. So I have someone in that whole 599 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,920 other world that I guess she took DMT or something 600 00:37:13,039 --> 00:37:17,239 like that, and she is totally convinced that she met 601 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,559 with an alien. This is someone that doesn't even talk 602 00:37:19,599 --> 00:37:22,239 that way. I was kind of surprised to hear that 603 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,920 you can go ahead and answer that that question. 604 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never done ayahuasca or I have a number 605 00:37:28,599 --> 00:37:31,079 of friends that have suggested I do that. I try that, 606 00:37:32,119 --> 00:37:34,360 and I feel like I will when I feel ready 607 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,519 for that, when I feel a calling. I haven't had 608 00:37:37,559 --> 00:37:41,000 to do that to connect with the ets. The concept 609 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,480 of the oversoul is something to mention because when a 610 00:37:44,559 --> 00:37:47,880 person because it enhances the ability to connect into ets. 611 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,480 When the oversoul is simply the parent on a person's 612 00:37:52,519 --> 00:37:57,679 home planet, it's the parent that manifested the offspring. Say me, 613 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,000 I believe I'm from Andromeda Galaxy and that my over 614 00:38:01,039 --> 00:38:04,199 soul is my parent on my home planet, and they 615 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:08,239 created me as an offspring using intention, with the approval 616 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:12,480 of their angel and God. I manifested and I could 617 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,599 stand in front of my over soul and look at them. 618 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,719 But yet, my aspects of consciousness are the same as 619 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,000 my over souls. I am from my over soul. I 620 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:25,719 am part of my over soul. There's no separation. Interesting concept, right, 621 00:38:26,039 --> 00:38:29,159 I'm here and he's there. He's within me all the 622 00:38:29,199 --> 00:38:32,960 time as well, or I'm within him. Our sole aspects 623 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,679 of consciousness are the same. He just took some of 624 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,280 his and gave me uniqueness and identity and free will 625 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:43,360 and choice as an offspring. And so here I am now. 626 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:47,360 When I'm connecting with my oversoul here on Earth, my 627 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:51,079 intuition increased. And one of the cool things about being 628 00:38:51,079 --> 00:38:53,679 connected to my oversoul is when I want to connect 629 00:38:53,679 --> 00:38:58,000 in let's preface this by saying that I've always had 630 00:38:58,079 --> 00:39:01,360 a role as a being connected with ET's in this life. 631 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,559 So I'm kind of like an ambassador between worlds. That's 632 00:39:04,599 --> 00:39:07,679 just what my sole wiring is in this life. So 633 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,719 when I want to connect into an ET group for 634 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:15,320 a particular purpose, asking questions whatever, I'll call in my 635 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,039 oversaul when he's within me. So what happens is I 636 00:39:18,039 --> 00:39:21,400 could just sense his consciousness come to the surface and 637 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,519 then I ask him, would you connect me to this 638 00:39:23,599 --> 00:39:27,760 particular star group? For example, would you connect me to 639 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,039 the Pleayadians that took me out of body on my 640 00:39:31,159 --> 00:39:36,199 vision quest? So he knows who they are, what he'll 641 00:39:36,199 --> 00:39:41,000 do is connect my energy to them quickly, like in 642 00:39:41,079 --> 00:39:45,239 less than thirty seconds or a minute. He'll do it accurately, 643 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,360 and he'll do it safely, so I know I can 644 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,400 always trust him to do that. So that's one of 645 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:54,000 the great benefits of connecting you with your oversaul. They 646 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,480 could do that kind of stuff. Yeah, that's what I 647 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:57,400 wanted to say about that. 648 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,360 Speaker 1: Okay, So here's a really good point I think from 649 00:40:01,519 --> 00:40:05,400 Christopher Alexander. Why do they have machines at all? These 650 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,880 craft or people talk about craft. I saw what had 651 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,639 to be some type of craft. So why do they 652 00:40:12,679 --> 00:40:16,320 have Why do they use craft? If they travel in 653 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:17,559 other ways? 654 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 2: I suppose some of them are so advanced they could 655 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,840 teleport here, but maybe they maybe they do, but then 656 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,360 there are others that they need craft in order to 657 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:31,119 get here. Pleaadians do that. They as far as I know, 658 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:36,280 they come here and they they they come here and 659 00:40:36,599 --> 00:40:39,480 they have to lower their vibration down into our dimension. 660 00:40:39,519 --> 00:40:42,840 They're from a higher dimension, and then they can land 661 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,519 their craft. And people have talked about talking to them 662 00:40:46,559 --> 00:40:49,599 being on their craft and traveling around the Solar System 663 00:40:49,639 --> 00:40:52,119 and their craft. I was on one of their craft 664 00:40:52,199 --> 00:40:54,559 when I was out of body, fully conscious on my 665 00:40:54,639 --> 00:40:58,199 vision quest. They took me out of body. And these 666 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,440 stories about my out of body travels are in my 667 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,000 book which I do have right here, Star Journey Home 668 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,079 some of Amazon, So all these stories are in there. 669 00:41:08,599 --> 00:41:10,800 And so when they took me out of body, I 670 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:12,639 was standing on the craft and I was looking out 671 00:41:12,679 --> 00:41:15,840 a window, and I was watching the stars go by, 672 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,199 and then the stars are going one way, and then 673 00:41:18,199 --> 00:41:20,239 all of a sudden they were going the opposite way. 674 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,719 So I figured they turned the craft around. Honestly, Martin, 675 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,159 that was all I remember from that experience in the craft. 676 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,679 And I imagine I could go under hypnosis and learn 677 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,280 more about it. But that was as much as they 678 00:41:33,679 --> 00:41:36,280 let me remember. Now, when I talked to the chief 679 00:41:37,119 --> 00:41:39,960 who put me out of an inquest after that, he said, 680 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,599 you experienced more. They just didn't. They just didn't let 681 00:41:43,639 --> 00:41:46,239 you remember it. It's in there, though, and maybe it's 682 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:50,079 one of those situations where when there's a need, I'll remember. 683 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:56,559 Speaker 1: Okay, here's another question. Are any of the et races 684 00:41:56,599 --> 00:41:58,599 likely to betricks or as? If so, which ones? 685 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, chicksters, some of them are kind of mischievous. I 686 00:42:03,639 --> 00:42:06,159 met a guy in Maryland and I gave him a 687 00:42:06,199 --> 00:42:11,880 reading about et connections. He was seeing craft outside his 688 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,280 kitchen window a lot of times, and outside his doors, 689 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:19,280 and they would come and he would see them off 690 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,800 in the distance the lights at night, and he wanted 691 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,199 to understand what was going on, and so we met 692 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,079 at a panera bread. I think it was you don't 693 00:42:28,079 --> 00:42:30,920 have a waitress that's going to disturb you, so you 694 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,320 can speak there and just have a coffee or something. 695 00:42:35,119 --> 00:42:40,199 And what I got was that he is from the Pleiades, 696 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,119 that's where his home star system is. I got that strongly. 697 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,960 But these beings that were visiting him were connected to 698 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:53,440 the Serious star system. And Sirius is the brightest star 699 00:42:53,559 --> 00:42:56,320 in the night sky in the northern hemisphere, just to 700 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,679 the left of the Orion constellation. So in the falling 701 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,039 winter you can see it rising to the leftover Orion. 702 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:06,800 It's very bright. That's Series A, and then there's also 703 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,440 a Series B, which is a dwarf. But his ets 704 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:15,559 were coming from one of the planets around that those 705 00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:19,039 star systems. They were either in our dimension. They were 706 00:43:19,079 --> 00:43:21,159 coming from our dimension or another one, and they were 707 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,480 lowering their vibration to be here. But these ets I 708 00:43:25,599 --> 00:43:29,000 was getting, they were mischievous. They didn't they weren't real 709 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:35,239 super evolved, and so they didn't know how to behave 710 00:43:35,599 --> 00:43:39,639 basically in a way that made the client comfortable. He 711 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:44,400 was uncomfortable with their energy. They didn't do anything negative, 712 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:50,559 but they made him uncomfortable. So that's an example of mischievous. Now. 713 00:43:51,599 --> 00:43:54,719 I had somebody I met once. This is totally by chance. 714 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,599 She was a friend of a friend that I know 715 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,679 they were. I do write about this in the book. 716 00:44:04,199 --> 00:44:07,800 My friend's friend just started sharing this at the breakfast 717 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,519 table after breakfast, since we were talking about ET stuff, 718 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:16,199 and she said that she's struggled with a memory of 719 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:20,800 being a reptilian on Earth way back when, thousands of 720 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,159 years ago, and her mission was to protect a certain 721 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:28,639 positive reptilian being on Earth, a military man. She got 722 00:44:28,639 --> 00:44:33,360 here too late and he had been killed by a 723 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:39,519 combatant reptilian group that didn't want this military leader to succeed. 724 00:44:41,079 --> 00:44:46,519 So we talked about it. A spirit came in, one 725 00:44:46,519 --> 00:44:50,639 of her spirit folk from her home world came in 726 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:55,000 over my shoulder and told said, tell her that we 727 00:44:55,079 --> 00:44:59,280 love her. It's not her fault. Please know that you 728 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,239 can let go of that grief because it wasn't your fault. 729 00:45:03,039 --> 00:45:04,840 And I told her this, and she said she could 730 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,320 see flashes of light over my shoulder and then she 731 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,079 could feel his energy. At one point when I asked 732 00:45:10,159 --> 00:45:12,880 him to move into her field, she could feel this 733 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:17,039 is ET. And what we did together at that point 734 00:45:17,079 --> 00:45:19,280 was do a little bit of energy work and forgiveness 735 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,880 work so that she could release that trauma. And so 736 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,440 that was an example of a negative reptilian race that 737 00:45:26,519 --> 00:45:29,920 she encountered way back thousands of years ago to put 738 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:34,800 a little more validity behind this. Little statuettes and figurines 739 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,639 have been found in Iraq of reptilian beings. These are 740 00:45:38,639 --> 00:45:41,079 statues that maybe you're ten twelve inches high and you 741 00:45:41,119 --> 00:45:44,280 may maybe have seen these on ancient aliens or something 742 00:45:44,559 --> 00:45:48,239 like this one where I've seen the reptilian woman holding 743 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:52,280 a reptilian baby and the baby's breastfeeding. We have evidence 744 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,480 like that too as well. 745 00:45:54,599 --> 00:45:59,320 Speaker 1: Okay, one last question here from Philip, a good fan 746 00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,039 of the show. Here, what do you think of Chris Bledsoe. 747 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,400 He has had some of the same religious things that 748 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,599 you were talking about. Are you familiar with who he is? 749 00:46:08,199 --> 00:46:13,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I've met Chris and he's an amazing guy. Honestly, 750 00:46:13,599 --> 00:46:15,679 I'll share why in a second. I don't know why 751 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:23,760 I'm getting choked up, excuse me. Sure. So, I was 752 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,239 at the Contact in the Desert conference at the end 753 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,639 of May in early June this year, first time to 754 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:35,360 sell books and meet people. I met Chris and he 755 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:41,239 carries a very unique energy. His energy was high vibration, divine, 756 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:46,639 feminine energy. It was radiating from his heart in his eyes. 757 00:46:46,679 --> 00:46:50,159 You could see it, Martin, in his eyes they were 758 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,119 just there was a high spirit in his eyes. He 759 00:46:53,199 --> 00:46:59,000 was carrying that high vibration divine connection. And I felt 760 00:46:59,079 --> 00:47:01,840 that wayumber of times when I'm in that high vibration 761 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,440 state for a number of days. But his heart was 762 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:10,199 just radiating this divine energy. And I told one of 763 00:47:10,199 --> 00:47:13,039 the guys that was near him, one of his protectors, 764 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,000 one of his warriors, and I said, I shared that 765 00:47:17,039 --> 00:47:19,079 with him, and he said, yeah, a lot of people, 766 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:23,400 a number of people have sensed that on him. This 767 00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,800 guy's connected. What he shared in his book Ufo of God, 768 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:30,119 he talked about that divine connection come in and he 769 00:47:30,199 --> 00:47:31,039 still carries that. 770 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, thank you so much. This has definitely 771 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:39,320 been interesting, and the link is going to be down below. 772 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,880 And just to let everyone know we have Luigi is 773 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:44,679 going to be on. We're going to be talking about 774 00:47:45,199 --> 00:47:47,960 Bob Blazar sorry next week. Just trying to figure out 775 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,639 how to close everything out here. So once again, I 776 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,280 just want to I want to thank you for being 777 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,519 on the show tonight and I appreciate it, all right, 778 00:47:56,639 --> 00:48:00,079 you okay, all right, take care all righty once so, 779 00:48:00,159 --> 00:48:02,880 thank you so much for hanging in here, and remember 780 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:07,280 to keep your eyes to the sky.