Speaker 1: Hello, this is Martin Willis. I'm your host and we
have our guest. Tonight's our second NASA person, second live
show for the evening. I'm pretty excited to have Greg Martins.
He's an award winning author, intuitive and retired aerospace engineer.
He spent thirty five years at NASA's Guarded Space Flight Center.
I was actually there visiting and I did see when
the web telescope was being created. It was pretty It
was actually quite fascinating. So during Greg's career he worked
on Space Shuttle payloads and satellite systems, including the Lunar
Reconnaissance Orbiter. Alongside that highly technical work, he privately explored meditation,
remote viewing, astro travel, and all kinds of interesting things.
His book Star Journey Home, Connect with Your Home Planet
and Over Seoul brings those seemingly different worlds together. Greg,
Welcome to podcast UFO and I'll bring you in right now.
Speaker 2: Welcome, Thank you, glad to be here.
Speaker 1: So good to have you second NASA person for the night.
I'm honored by that. So, yeah, did you follow when
they were looking into the UAP topic? Do you follow
any of that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, the release of the files on the Trump you're
talking about.
Speaker 1: No, I'm when actually NASA got involved and that was
my last guest. He was involved in that task force
that was supposed to be looking into UFO. See some
of the things didn't exactly go the way he was hoping.
So just saying hello, right everyone in chat, thank you
for being here. Yeah, sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not familiar with the ones that NASA would
have been directly looking at.
Speaker 1: So what was it like working for NASA and did
you ever have any water cooler talk about the possibility
of extraterrestrials.
Speaker 2: Working at NASA. Godard at Space Flight Center was my
dream job and I landed it during my senior year
in college. I was awarded an internship there from the
mechanical engineering branch so at that time that was nineteen
eighty three and a Space Shuttle program which is coming online.
So I got to work on sounding rockets and payloads
that would put in the Space Shuttle to hold experiments.
And then I moved on to work on space satellites
that would be Earth orbiting or would go to the
Moon or two of the Sun in my later years
at NASA. So my thirty five years at Godard Space
Flight Center was amazing. I had an amazing career, was
my dream job, so amazing people there, really good group
to work with, very professional.
Speaker 1: Yes, I had a friend he's passed away since, but
he was a longtime UFO researcher, Ray Stanford, and his
wife was working at Godard, so we visited over there,
and I couldn't believe when I was watching all those
guys dressed in their environmental white suits, very clean room
and where they were working on the telescope. And I
took a bunch of pictures. That was really great being there,
and I met someone that was actually very interested in
the UFO topic.
Speaker 2: That was a long time.
Speaker 1: He'd been there for over thirty years, so that was fun.
Speaker 2: And Martin, you did ask a question about water cooler,
talk about it. You have both books of Terrestrials. I
did have conversations like that with a few, just a
few people at NASA Goddard that believed in that kind
of thing and that worked in the metaphysical realm as well.
So there was no talk about down UFOs and Area
fifty one and was in a NASA employee working on
anything to do with UFOs, and that conversation never came up.
So if any employees at Goddard we're working on extraterrestrial
stuff or extraterrestrial rocks, that maybe that came from Mars.
We didn't hear about it.
Speaker 1: Okay, So you were working in an environment built around engineering,
evidence and precision. How did you reconcile that with the
experiences involving intuition and consciousness?
Speaker 2: Martin? I never had a conflict with it. I started
my exploration of consciousness and the human energy field and
dreams at the Sleeping Dreams and UFOs all in high school.
So yeah, that's where it all began. I was heavily
into it when I was seventeen and eighteen, and I
was very interested in working at Nasagard and Space Flight Center.
At that time, that was my goal, and I figured
I'd go to college and then I try to become
an astronaut. And I changed my mind during college, but
I did manage to get a job at Goddard, and
I didn't see a conflict between the idea of higher
consciousness and other dimensions and UFOs and ETS. I didn't
see a conflict between that and engineering and science. To me,
it was all kind of one of the same you
just got to explore it.
Speaker 1: I see, So I guess I want to ask you
how did your journey go through what you got involved
in later, But actually before that, I do want to
mention something about consciousness because I don't really understand consciousness.
And also a lot of people are saying that the UFO,
like summoning and people that see UFOs, it has to
do with the conscience, and I don't really get that,
especially when it comes to the public siting where there's
many witnesses and things like that. But I just want
to know, how do you feel there's a connection there,
or try to explain it to me because I can't
really understand it.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's say we're walking through the woods and we're
in a peaceful state. Sometimes in that state we can
feel the energy of the plants or the trees in
some subtle way, or we feel the nice energy of
the environment feels clean and pure. Our heart opens, our
senses tend to elevate, our five senses, and then our
intuitive senses tend to elevate too. We all have intuition,
so we have the gut feeling, and we have the
love that comes from our hearts. Sorry, I hit the mic,
we have the love that comes from our heart, and
then we have this knowing, an intuitive knowing. Those are
the three that people mainly have, and I think everybody's
experienced them at some time or another in their lives.
So that is an example of higher consciousness. It's the
finer vibration aspect of who we are. We have an
energy field which is made up of an electromagnetic field
magnetic field because we're we are electrochemical beings, so we
have a magnetic field to dipole, and then we have
a spirit life force energy. And what happens is so
we have the physical body, and then we have the
intuitive senses, and we have the seven main chakras in
our body, the heart chakra being one, and the solar
pluxus where we feel that gut feeling or that knowing
is located. And with the heart chakra, let's say when
we feel love for somebody or for a beautiful plant
or a child or an animal, what's happening there is
we're feeling through through our energy field and it goes
in through that heart chakra and it stimulates our hormones
there and we feel these nice chemicals washing through our body,
and so that heart chakra is where we're an energy
connection to our animal or our loved one, or anything
out in nature is connecting into this. Those are sensors.
So that's an example of higher consciousness in action. And
when we go into the dream state at night, when
we're sleeping, we go into higher levels of consciousness. We
also experience our subconscious and we also have access to
many dimensions at that level as well. When we go
into meditation and we get into it just a peaceful space,
we do a couple of deep breaths, relax the body,
relax the mind, we slow it down. We notice how
our abrations rises a bit, and maybe we have a
candle going and we have some really good, nice mellow
meditation music going or something. We feel more peaceful, We
feel our energy just relax and take on a nice,
little gentle feeling of peace and wholeness. And in that
state then we have already elevated our consciousness and we're
more sensitive to higher realms. At that point, we might
even feel a spirit come in, or we sense something
and that could be a telepathic communication, or we may
experience a loved one even come in from a higher realm.
Perhaps they've passed over and we might even sense them
at that point. Come in. We can experience lots of
things in that higher state when we're in meditation. So
that's another example of higher consciousness. I see wow.
Speaker 1: And so I guess I have to ask you, how
did you start getting into all of this? Was it
it was something you were interested in high school? But
was there some type of event that made you decide
to look at this? You know, I mean it's not
something I generally think of someone in high school actually
dabbling with.
Speaker 2: I decided I wanted to shoot for being an astronaut
when I was in sixth grade, Martin. You know, yeah,
that's thirteen years old, right. So I remember standing on
my back porch in Massachusetts where I grew up at
night looking up at the stars, and even if it
was winter cold out, I just go out and look,
turn off the porch light and just look and thinking
there's got to be something up there. There's got to
be some people up there. Little did I know, my
intuition was calling me and it knew and so it
started at that age. And I tell you, Martin, when
I was thirteen, I had a UFO go over my house.
It went over very slowly. I looked out the window.
I happened to be near the window, and I saw
it going over. The window was up, the window shade
was up as well. It was August. It had a
low pitch hum. It had at least three bright lights
I saw on the bottom of it, and it was
very low going over my house, and it moved slowly
over the house. So I just watched it continue to
go over. I saw it when it was already partially
gone over the house. So that was when I was thirteen,
and that probably influenced me. My mom she was interested
in metaphysics. She was into Jane Roberts, who channels higher
consciousness being named Seth and I read one of those
books and that blew my mind, looking into metaphysics, the
nature of consciousness and reality and the dream state and
remote viewing and what are we like in higher levels
of consciousness and what's going on in between lives and
past lives, and that was fascinating. And I read Bob
and Rose's first book, Journeys Out of the Body, about
remote remote viewing and about astral travel. And I was
studying UFO stuff the UFO and my mom there were
two catalysts, and I think the rest of it was
just an innate knowing and I just started exploring this stuff.
Speaker 1: Oh very wow. So you actually worked with a move
on investigator who reportedly encountered a gray yep, and so
you can you talk a little bit about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I heard her give a talk at a UFO conference,
was rather small conference, and at that time, I was
working with the Akashak Records. I was the Kashak Records
being an energy library of every event, person, and place
that's ever existed. Those energies are they never go away
past events. The energies are always there and they are
organized in what people call the Akashak Records by spirits
that work with those records. So I've been working with
the Acaheak records. People's soul records are there, and I'd
been looking into where people are from, where their home worlds,
and what about their oversoul, what do they look like
on their home planet, the over so being the parent
on the home planet of the person. And I talked
to this woman after she gave her talk, and I
asked her if she'd like me to look into the
experience she had with that gray when she was doing
a field investigation for a client working for Moufon, and
she said, yes, I'd love for you to look into this.
Here's a little bit about it. She withheld a lot
of information, so I went in and I did an
a Kashak record reading on it. I called in my
spirit that works with the Akasak Records. His name was Abraham,
and I asked him questions and he gave me answers,
and then I reported it back to the field investigator
on the phone. A few days later, after I ran
it by my mentor, who got me interested in doing
this kind of work. She felt that what I received
from my reader of the Kashuk records was correct because
she checked in with her reader of the Kashuk records
and compared notes, so you know what I got. When
the story goes, she had seen a gray in the
field not probably twenty feet from her at night with
the owner and a trainee she had with her from Mufon,
and they all looked at this gray with flashlights out,
and my.
Speaker 1: Who you're talking about?
Speaker 2: They freaked out and ran.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Chase, you talk about Chase.
Speaker 2: That's correct, And she said that she ran in terror,
and it was something that was not by choice. It
was something that her mind and body made her do.
And she asked me about that, what was that terror about?
When what I got about that was that this gray
et is connected to his other gray ets up on
a craft. These craft were coming in every night, and
I got that this et was scared having a flash
light in its face and knowing these were humans. So
he was scared, and then so all the grays that
he was connected to on the collective consciousness were scared
for him. And that we laid back into her energy
field and she could feel that. So it was a
result of an energy connection with the gray that in
terms of why she felt so much terror. That's probably
the biggest part about that whole experience.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is such an amazing story. I had to
her on I don't know, all the way back in
like twenty eleven, twenty twelve, and yeah, it's quite an
amazing story how those things were showing up every night.
And the story goes that they she first saw like
a light show, like all these lights interacting with each other.
And she quietly told me who owned the property, which
is someone that is kind of known in certain circles.
So I can't say his name, but still that whole
story was so weird and scary, and it drained all
the batteries on their video cameras, and so many different
things happened that night. Yeah, great story, A little.
Speaker 2: Bit more to share about it. I got that those
Grays were benevolent and that they were coming to do research.
They were studying the energies in that area because it
had been flooded, and so they were coming over every
night to do some studies these ets, and they felt
comfortable coming to the property. They didn't feel threatened. So
there's a you know, chuckling up for the benevolent Grays
because they get a bad rap usually.
Speaker 1: So as far as do you think some of these things,
I think I saw where that you believe that there
could be extraterrestrial visitation, multi dimensional contact, and also with consciousness.
So are you just exploring all the different ideas.
Speaker 2: I agree with everything you just said that beings from
ets from different dimensions certainly visit the planet, and a
lot of them stay in another dimension so that they
don't get detected by our military or our government, and
they can come into our dimension if they choose, and
some of them are from our dimension. So plaps up
nicely with the concept of where people are from and
their home planets because a lot of many clients, most clients,
ninety five percent of them, I have found their home
planets are in dimensions that are higher than the Earth plane.
So we went there in a spaceship, we might not
even see the planet, or we would see the planet
and we wouldn't see the beings on the planet if
they're in a higher vibration dimension. And that's just how
it works. So many of these ET's that are coming
here come from a different universe or a different dimension altogether,
and they can move into our dimension. If they bring
their ship into our dimension from their dimension, we might
see our atmosphere ionize, and so we see a glowing
energy around their craft. A lot of people say they
see that kind of thing. It could just be plasma
around the craft that they're seeing. I don't have any
real experience with the orbs and ets. My only experience
with orbs really would be that I've come across them
and found that they were nature spirits. Does that answer
your question about ET's and dimensions? Yes?
Speaker 1: And also I just have to mention that a lot
of people know when I've talked in the past about
the UFO sighting that I had that got me into
this whole situation in Carmel Valley back in two thousand
and seven. Was the object was a disc and it
had a light blue glow around it, like an electric
blue glow soft around the edge of it all the
way around, and plasma. I'm not sure what it was,
but there was no sound in the particular one that
I had.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would make sense that it was ionizing the
atmosphere because a lot of these craft have a magnetic
fields around them or electric fields and they're hovering and
they do that with their anti gravity propulsion, and it
meant that a movie fire in the sky yep where
the traverse Yeah, Yeah, Travis Wallton where he was zapped
by an energy electric shock basically, So the way that
goes is I think he got between the craft and
the ground and he acted as a ground for the
electric field around the craft, and so that electricity went
from the craft through him to the earth. So he
was electrocuted, and they brought him on the craft and
they rebuilt his body and then they put him back
out on the earth. I did talk with him in
person at a UFO conference and he said that, yeah,
that's what happened. He got injured and they brought him
on the craft and they healed him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know. I've had that conversation with him
a number of times. I know you talk a lot
about dreams and meditations and encounters, and I just want
to bring something up because I think it's very interesting
and I think you'd find it interesting. Two different people.
Now we're getting a little bit feedback here. Let me
just take care of your mic for right now. So,
two different people that I know, on two different sides
of the country, two conversations, had basically the same dream.
And one is a friend out in Oregon and one
is someone right here that I know very well that
they are going to be contacted when the time is
right and there's something that they have to do, and
they will know what to do. Two different people told
me the same story.
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, that makes total sense. I've been up on
et craft three times, fully conscious and out of body state,
and they took me up during Native American Visionquest ceremony,
twice by Office Centauri beings and once by Pleaadians and
I've certainly connected with playadians and office Centauri beings and
meditation a number of times, lots of experiences over the decades.
And my sense about this stuff is that what they
do with me and they don't let me remember the conversations,
is that they're preparing me and I guess enhancing me
in whatever way they feel is appropriate, downloads and whatever
is appropriate for my soul growth and my work in
case that there's a need for it in the future,
and that I will know what to do as well,
especially with the alphae centaury beings, that if they have
a need to use me to help out with an
interaction between them and the Earth humans, that I would
be activated, so to speak, and I would know what
to do, and I'd be an ambassador in certain in
a way to do that function. So I firmly believe
that's going on and it's just fine with me, and
I believe other people are in that role as well.
Speaker 1: So when wait a minute, we have a question here
and chat here the intersection, I and I think others
want to understand that technology all of the spiritual realities
you describe. My intuition says ets use tech to amplify
spirit content. What is your views on that.
Speaker 2: There's an energy implant that was put into my energy
field over here on the left side of my neck
when I was in my forties or fifties. I'm sixty
five now, and I didn't know what that energy was.
It was uncomfortable in my neck, the energy in my
neck for a long time, not that it hurt or anything,
but it was just weird to feel it. And eventually
an intuitive told me that it was a communication device.
It was transmitter of sorts, and she said that was
being that was in there so that I could connect
in with some of the technology that the ets used,
connecting to their craft. And there was a time too
when I felt a spirit when I was lying in
bed meditating, getting ready to fall asleep, and I felt
a spirit come in on my left, another one come
in on my right, and another one come in behind me,
and I guess two of them were holding space, and
the one on my left reached in and tweaked the
energy implant and then exited about ten seconds later, and
then they left. So I said, I guess they needed
to tweak it for some reason. And so that to
me is a technological interface, and I've never heard them
in my head coming through that transmitter or whatever. But
that's an example of a tech technology that they could
use to communicate. The other one would be I remember
having a dream as a teenager where I was in
a small room, sitting in a chair, and there was
a screen in front of me and these symbols were
scrolling down two columns and I'm just watching them, and
there was green color on the screen beside these symbols.
So here's an example of I think ET's were maybe
downloading something into my brain through these symbols. The symbols
had some per It's a technology, so what was it
doing to my mind? I don't know. But there's two
examples of some technology interface.
Speaker 1: Oh how about that? So here's another question. Hang on,
let me just get your mic here. It's another question here.
Do you believe there are more aliens than gray aliens
or just feel the grays are the only ones that
have visited Earth.
Speaker 2: There's many types they're visiting Earth. The grays are just
one type, and some of the grays are benevolent, and
some of them don't really have the emotion and they
kind of do what they're told and then some probably
have more of a self centered agenda. And there's Reptilians
and there are some good ones. And then there are
a bunch that are that have a selfish and intention
and agenda and they've been coming to here for ages
and a lot of people talk about them in a
negative way because they're not fun to be around. And
then there's a lot of benevolent ET's that are coming
to this planet, a whole group of them. We've got
beings from Sirius, al debroon A Tourists, the Pliades, and
stars in Orion. I've found home star systems for clients
in Orion in three three different star systems, Raijo, Batl, Juice,
and Bellatrix. Those are three main stars and four main
stars that are in there. And I've even connected with
beings that are from a star system from Sigma Orionis
I think it's called It's just below the Belt. In Orion.
We have beings coming from all over the place.
Speaker 1: And how I'm sure you encounter skeptics that might say
to you, how can you prove this is pretty I
have to say out there stuff, And how do you
try to convince people that what you're saying saying was
really happening.
Speaker 2: I put a lot of this in my book, and
I chose to put examples in where there was valid
validation coming from other people and corroboration coming from other
people to help validate these amazing statements that I'm making.
And in terms of home planets where people are from.
When a person, when a client, here's me tell them,
this is what I got for your home star system.
This is what I got for a name for your oversaul.
This is what I have gotten from your soul record,
the ACACHEC records for what you look like on your
home planet. This is what your form is there, and
they resonate with it. That's a validation. And some have
even known this type of information before I even did
the reading for them, so the validation comes in that
level as well. Let's say I was taken out a body,
fully conscious on three different Native American vision quest ceremonies.
These ceremonies were done in the ceremonial way, with the
chief putting the vision questers out in a safe way,
and we were being monitored course in spirit level by
the chief, and it's all done in a traditional way,
and the chief knew that I was taken up on
board in all three of those because He's just that connected.
And there were other people on the vision quest that
had some experiences involved in my experience of going out
of body, so there is further corroboration. And when I
talk about experiencing ET's and dreams. For example, in one
particular dream, I had a Pleadian craft come in the
dream world where I was standing in the backyard of
my house in Massachusetts. In the dream, Pladian Craft comes
in over the trees, and then a woman appears next
to me, and she's in street close and she said
some things to me that I couldn't remember after the dream,
but the dream seemed very real. And then about a
week later, I was telling a friend of mine at
lunch about the dream, and when I did, I could
feel the energy of the woman come in again on
my left side, so I could feel the energy of
how I felt her in my dream state. So to me,
that was a validation. It was not a dream. This
was something that held truth to it, It held energy
to it. And there are many other stories of corroborations
that I've had with other people about experiences that have
had involving extraterstrial communication. I can say that I don't
recall ever having a physical visit with an ET. It's
always been in meditation or dream state or out of
body travel.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, here's another question someone wanted to know. So,
where in Massachusetts did you grow up? Was this the
same place?
Speaker 2: Oh? Framing him Natick area? Oh yeah, small town called Holliston.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I spent a lot of time in that
whole area. Another question here from chat. Do you suppose
that ETS talk to the government officials? Might they be
forcing the cover ups supposedly on pain of some terrible
punishment of humanity?
Speaker 2: Yes, the ETS do you talk to government officials In
many of the countries. They probably have even generated some
contracts with that government and military industrial complex, and our
government being involved on some level. Some of those contracts
may be not in our best interest the human beings
on the planet. The cover up policy that the United
States and the UK still maintain is their own choice.
The government and the military and the corporations in the
industrial complex in the military would love to keep as
much of the ET technology secret as they can. That way,
they have a military advantage over other countries. They can
back engineer spacecraft. In my opinion, if we look up
in the sky and we see a craft floating in
the sky using zero gravity, we probably there could be
a fifty to fifty chance that craft is either made
in the USA or its sextraterrestrial from another planet. It's
that far advanced. I believe that the United States has
back engineered and worked on making their own craft, and
the UK might be right there with us. So it's
the choice of the governments in my opinion. If they
do have contracts with ETS, and I believe they probably are,
I don't know if they would say don't disclose certain
things like if the ETS in the industrial military industrial
complex have a base underground, which I believe there are,
they wouldn't want to have that location divulged, so that
would need to be kept secret, and the ETS would
appreciate that being kept secret, So in that way they
would be an agreement on that.
Speaker 1: I had Mike Herrera on this show. A lot of
people might know him as the ex marine that claims
that he saw a reverse engineered craft. He thought it
was a reverse engineer craft that came down and floated
down and then a compartment came down and it was
quite a story. I'm not really sure what to actually
think about that. I think I try to look at
this with an open mind and situations like this. Here's
another question here. Why do you think there are some
humans who've had lots of contact but have never encountered
one of the self centered or harmful ets.
Speaker 2: Oh been people that have come across the negative ones.
See what I could talk about with that? Native Americans
have talked about negative reptilians and that they've come and
taken some family members at times. Let's see grays. I've
I can only say I've read stories or watched them
in documentaries where people have had experiences with grays that
didn't really care about their how they felt, or they
weren't sensitive to how they treated them when they had
them up on their craft and they were doing an
exam on them, for example. I can't talk more about
that because I just don't have the experience. I've experienced
negative reptilians in my energy field when I've done readings
for people doing a home star system reading for somebody,
or you know, looking into their home planet, or or
some other question they might have that involves the cashing records.
But when I'm doing a home star system reading, especially
when I've connected to the Alphae Centauri beings who do
have somewhat of a reptilian perhaps DNA connection in their history,
and I'll be connecting and communicating with a benevolent Alpha
Centauri being or two in meditation, and I'll feel a
negative reptilian come into my energy field, and what he
will be doing is trying to distract me or lower
my vibration or disconnect the communication that I'm having with
these benevolent Alpha Centauri beings. And the Ofphice Centauri star
system is our closest star system. It's only four to
five light years away from here, and they're coming here
and visiting Earth and they're doing a bunch of things.
So here's an example of negative reptilians bothering me. But
it's all in an energy state. They're not physically with me.
So what I do is I command the negative reptilians
to the throne of God and the name of Jesus Christ,
and then they leave.
Speaker 1: Okay, here's a question from UFO Jack. Has have you
ever had flashes of lights in your room with no
known source of light?
Speaker 2: And Jack.
Speaker 1: Jack helps me out here and he's on my show
a bit. So Jack, I'm going to be talking to
you about that in the future, about someone I know
that's had that experience.
Speaker 2: I can't say that I recall ever having that happen
to me. I've been tuned into other dimensions. When I'm
in my bed. I'll wake up and I'll be seeing
my room looks different, the walls are different, and there
is something different next to my bed. I'm experiencing another
dimension at the same time that I'm experiencing my physical
dimension lying in my bed. That can happen to people
during dream state. Excuse me, we're dreaming, we're connected into
another dimension while we're dreaming, and then we wake up
and we have what what I would call is dual consciousness,
where we're experiencing the other place that we were in
when we were dreaming, and we're experiencing our physical dimension.
So we're experiencing both and they blend together and we
see them both in the room where we are when
we wake up. So I've had that happen, but I
haven't had lights come in that I can say that
I remember. Maybe I did, and I just don't Remember.
Speaker 1: Here's another question by Jack. Have you ever seen an
outline of a gray in your room that was more
or less translucent.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I've heard people talk about those experiences, but I
personally haven't had them.
Speaker 1: Let's see someone saying, what a great guest. Have you
ever experimented with DMT to get the telepathy of aliens
when you have been on the UFOs or at home?
So many people talk about that. Now, I just want
to say something before you answer that, is I have
some connection that's in my other world, which is in
the appraisal business of fine art and antiques. I'm very
active in that. So I have someone in that whole
other world that I guess she took DMT or something
like that, and she is totally convinced that she met
with an alien. This is someone that doesn't even talk
that way. I was kind of surprised to hear that
you can go ahead and answer that that question.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never done ayahuasca or I have a number
of friends that have suggested I do that. I try that,
and I feel like I will when I feel ready
for that, when I feel a calling. I haven't had
to do that to connect with the ets. The concept
of the oversoul is something to mention because when a
person because it enhances the ability to connect into ets.
When the oversoul is simply the parent on a person's
home planet, it's the parent that manifested the offspring. Say me,
I believe I'm from Andromeda Galaxy and that my over
soul is my parent on my home planet, and they
created me as an offspring using intention, with the approval
of their angel and God. I manifested and I could
stand in front of my over soul and look at them.
But yet, my aspects of consciousness are the same as
my over souls. I am from my over soul. I
am part of my over soul. There's no separation. Interesting concept, right,
I'm here and he's there. He's within me all the
time as well, or I'm within him. Our sole aspects
of consciousness are the same. He just took some of
his and gave me uniqueness and identity and free will
and choice as an offspring. And so here I am now.
When I'm connecting with my oversoul here on Earth, my
intuition increased. And one of the cool things about being
connected to my oversoul is when I want to connect
in let's preface this by saying that I've always had
a role as a being connected with ET's in this life.
So I'm kind of like an ambassador between worlds. That's
just what my sole wiring is in this life. So
when I want to connect into an ET group for
a particular purpose, asking questions whatever, I'll call in my
oversaul when he's within me. So what happens is I
could just sense his consciousness come to the surface and
then I ask him, would you connect me to this
particular star group? For example, would you connect me to
the Pleayadians that took me out of body on my
vision quest? So he knows who they are, what he'll
do is connect my energy to them quickly, like in
less than thirty seconds or a minute. He'll do it accurately,
and he'll do it safely, so I know I can
always trust him to do that. So that's one of
the great benefits of connecting you with your oversaul. They
could do that kind of stuff. Yeah, that's what I
wanted to say about that.
Speaker 1: Okay, So here's a really good point I think from
Christopher Alexander. Why do they have machines at all? These
craft or people talk about craft. I saw what had
to be some type of craft. So why do they
have Why do they use craft? If they travel in
other ways?
Speaker 2: I suppose some of them are so advanced they could
teleport here, but maybe they maybe they do, but then
there are others that they need craft in order to
get here. Pleaadians do that. They as far as I know,
they come here and they they they come here and
they have to lower their vibration down into our dimension.
They're from a higher dimension, and then they can land
their craft. And people have talked about talking to them
being on their craft and traveling around the Solar System
and their craft. I was on one of their craft
when I was out of body, fully conscious on my
vision quest. They took me out of body. And these
stories about my out of body travels are in my
book which I do have right here, Star Journey Home
some of Amazon, So all these stories are in there.
And so when they took me out of body, I
was standing on the craft and I was looking out
a window, and I was watching the stars go by,
and then the stars are going one way, and then
all of a sudden they were going the opposite way.
So I figured they turned the craft around. Honestly, Martin,
that was all I remember from that experience in the craft.
And I imagine I could go under hypnosis and learn
more about it. But that was as much as they
let me remember. Now, when I talked to the chief
who put me out of an inquest after that, he said,
you experienced more. They just didn't. They just didn't let
you remember it. It's in there, though, and maybe it's
one of those situations where when there's a need, I'll remember.
Speaker 1: Okay, here's another question. Are any of the et races
likely to betricks or as? If so, which ones?
Speaker 2: Yeah, chicksters, some of them are kind of mischievous. I
met a guy in Maryland and I gave him a
reading about et connections. He was seeing craft outside his
kitchen window a lot of times, and outside his doors,
and they would come and he would see them off
in the distance the lights at night, and he wanted
to understand what was going on, and so we met
at a panera bread. I think it was you don't
have a waitress that's going to disturb you, so you
can speak there and just have a coffee or something.
And what I got was that he is from the Pleiades,
that's where his home star system is. I got that strongly.
But these beings that were visiting him were connected to
the Serious star system. And Sirius is the brightest star
in the night sky in the northern hemisphere, just to
the left of the Orion constellation. So in the falling
winter you can see it rising to the leftover Orion.
It's very bright. That's Series A, and then there's also
a Series B, which is a dwarf. But his ets
were coming from one of the planets around that those
star systems. They were either in our dimension. They were
coming from our dimension or another one, and they were
lowering their vibration to be here. But these ets I
was getting, they were mischievous. They didn't they weren't real
super evolved, and so they didn't know how to behave
basically in a way that made the client comfortable. He
was uncomfortable with their energy. They didn't do anything negative,
but they made him uncomfortable. So that's an example of mischievous. Now.
I had somebody I met once. This is totally by chance.
She was a friend of a friend that I know
they were. I do write about this in the book.
My friend's friend just started sharing this at the breakfast
table after breakfast, since we were talking about ET stuff,
and she said that she's struggled with a memory of
being a reptilian on Earth way back when, thousands of
years ago, and her mission was to protect a certain
positive reptilian being on Earth, a military man. She got
here too late and he had been killed by a
combatant reptilian group that didn't want this military leader to succeed.
So we talked about it. A spirit came in, one
of her spirit folk from her home world came in
over my shoulder and told said, tell her that we
love her. It's not her fault. Please know that you
can let go of that grief because it wasn't your fault.
And I told her this, and she said she could
see flashes of light over my shoulder and then she
could feel his energy. At one point when I asked
him to move into her field, she could feel this
is ET. And what we did together at that point
was do a little bit of energy work and forgiveness
work so that she could release that trauma. And so
that was an example of a negative reptilian race that
she encountered way back thousands of years ago to put
a little more validity behind this. Little statuettes and figurines
have been found in Iraq of reptilian beings. These are
statues that maybe you're ten twelve inches high and you
may maybe have seen these on ancient aliens or something
like this one where I've seen the reptilian woman holding
a reptilian baby and the baby's breastfeeding. We have evidence
like that too as well.
Speaker 1: Okay, one last question here from Philip, a good fan
of the show. Here, what do you think of Chris Bledsoe.
He has had some of the same religious things that
you were talking about. Are you familiar with who he is?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I've met Chris and he's an amazing guy. Honestly,
I'll share why in a second. I don't know why
I'm getting choked up, excuse me. Sure. So, I was
at the Contact in the Desert conference at the end
of May in early June this year, first time to
sell books and meet people. I met Chris and he
carries a very unique energy. His energy was high vibration, divine,
feminine energy. It was radiating from his heart in his eyes.
You could see it, Martin, in his eyes they were
just there was a high spirit in his eyes. He
was carrying that high vibration divine connection. And I felt
that wayumber of times when I'm in that high vibration
state for a number of days. But his heart was
just radiating this divine energy. And I told one of
the guys that was near him, one of his protectors,
one of his warriors, and I said, I shared that
with him, and he said, yeah, a lot of people,
a number of people have sensed that on him. This
guy's connected. What he shared in his book Ufo of God,
he talked about that divine connection come in and he
still carries that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, thank you so much. This has definitely
been interesting, and the link is going to be down below.
And just to let everyone know we have Luigi is
going to be on. We're going to be talking about
Bob Blazar sorry next week. Just trying to figure out
how to close everything out here. So once again, I
just want to I want to thank you for being
on the show tonight and I appreciate it, all right,
you okay, all right, take care all righty once so,
thank you so much for hanging in here, and remember
to keep your eyes to the sky.