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Speaker 1: Oh you think that you think that if I'm really

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Jim Jones, I would have kool aid. You think I'm

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not an authentic I'm not really vibing with JJ. Oh really? Oh,

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I just want purple Soruce Recks on your ass. Baby,

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I'm about to pass out with that purple Jim Jones says,

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are up? With that purple Sorus Rex says, are up,

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You'd be like Mike Jones, who Mike Jones. No, Jim Jones,

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Jim Jones, who Jim Jones. Uh. Anyway, No, Cameron is

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not the Antichrist. However, We're gonna play a little bit

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of Camera's video because Cameron's video actually shows the aesthetics

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of the background of this dude, which is the best

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art because in the clips that are going viral on Twitter,

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you can't even see the real background, which is the

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best part. And as I commented, I would expect that

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the real Antichrist, when he shows up, that he would

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have a little better drip than this dude. He'd have

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a little better than airbrush pictures of himself looking like

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a looking like a seventies creeper van right with a

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damn wizard and a skull and a Confederate flag on

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the side of a van.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's check this out and till Christ be

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walking among us right now. So hit this. Okay, there's

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this guy. He's born to an Egyptian father and an

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American mother. He was raised in the States. He's now

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living in England.

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Speaker 3: But he claims that he's.

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Speaker 1: Dude, got a He's got an airbrushed lightning picture behind

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like he just stepped out of a damn dimensional ortal

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and then he went to the carnival and got an

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airbrush made. He's going to put that on the side

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of his van.

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Speaker 2: Dude is the true successor to both Jesus and Mohammad somehow, Yes,

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you heard that correctly. He says that he's the rightful pope,

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He's the new Mahdi, and Christians on exts are literally

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calling him the Antichrist.

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Speaker 1: Just listen now, he couldn't be much worse than Francis.

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He might actually be a better pope than Francis. Oh.

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Speaker 3: He describes himself I am Abdullah, the successor of mahdia Isadam,

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the successor of the comforter Ahmed, the successor of Simon Peter,

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the successor of Mohammad, the successor of Jesus Christ. I

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am the true and legitimate Pope. I am the proof

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upon the Christians. I am the son of the Muslims

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through my father, and the son of the Christians and

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the Jews through my mother. I am the son of

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the East through my father, and the son of the

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West through my mother.

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Speaker 4: Pretty wild, right, I like the idea that you can

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just kind of lay claim to an entire territory because

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your parents come from that territory.

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Speaker 1: So can't I be the son of the West too?

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I mean, my parents are from the West, so does

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that make me the king of the West. I mean,

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it's kind a kind of a loose, kind of a

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flimsy basis for this divine status. But let's see what

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else he says.

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Speaker 2: So in this video, we're going to figure out exactly

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who this guy is. I'm going to show you guys,

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his background unpacked, the crazy claims that he's making, and

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at the end, I'm going to tell you whether or

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not the Christians on X might actually be onto something

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with the whole anti christ thing. So trust me, this

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one is going to be an absolute wild ride real quick.

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If you're new hero, he was born in nineteen eighty three.

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Abdullah comes from an interesting cultural mix. His dad's Egyptian

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and his mom's American.

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Speaker 1: Now, I mean, dude, this was like the weakest freaking

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psy op. Dude. I mean, this just looks Why is

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he wearing such a loose beanie? And then he's got

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his chick? Is that his girlfriend? Who knows? Right? She

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looks like I don't know, she was like Nina, Nina

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Coopri and Novna, right, I mean she looks like Nina.

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But let's fast forward past a little bit of those

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let's see what's his what's his story here?

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Speaker 2: Yes that's a real title, and another popular series called

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The Arrivals, which racked up millions of views online. But

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the real turning point for this guy.

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Speaker 1: Came, oh so wait the Arrivals that remember that YouTube

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series that was popular that was so stupid.

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Speaker 2: That was this guy about in times prophecies with titles

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like the Anti Christ de j'all is a Reptilian shape shifter.

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Yes that's a real title.

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Speaker 1: Cheta o you men, consciousness five cents.

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Speaker 2: Re and another popular series called The Arrivals, which racked

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up millions of yews online.

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Speaker 1: But the real.

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Speaker 2: Turning point for this guy came in two thousand and

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eight when he moved to Cairo, Egypt, just in time

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to get involved with the twenty eleven Egyptian Revolution. That

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was actually the year I got married. So Abdullah describes

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his experience as vivid.

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Speaker 1: Uh wait is that Arab? This is Arab spring, CIA

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funded Arab spring. That's interesting. I wonder if he was

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on the side of the Arab spring because that would

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mean already, dude, you're sus Bra. I mean, look, we

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already know right away he's sus wearing that beanie in

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that uh. I mean, come on, now, this is a

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damn It looks like a creeper van right with Arab

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brush on it. And you know when you see an

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eighties airbrush van, you're going to see a wizard. You're

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going to see a skull. You're going to see a

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wolf howling out a moon, a planet. Yeah, look at that.

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I want an airbrush image and a horse running. I

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want airbrush image that combines all of it. I want

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a skull riding on a horse, fighting, a wolf howling

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at a wizard inside of a Confederate flag. I want

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the whole thing. Dude, look at that, and I'm surprised

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there's not more like, you know, bare breasted wench maidens

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on the side of airbrush fans. But you don't actually

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see a lot of wenches. You see a lot of

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wizards and dudes, but you know, here's the one with

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a breasty chick. What do y'all think about these vans?

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So this dude was like for my anti Christ cathedral.

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He's over there cooking it up. He's like, I want

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a giant airbrush picture of me, Dude, that's what I want.

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He's like, I know how to grab the youth. I

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can speak the language of the youth with a giant

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Speaker 2: So you're saying this, I was a youth who was

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I was attacked by government agents in Egyptian police forces.

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I had dodged bullets and engaged in deadly battles and

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Speaker 1: Okay, So this guy's coming out of the CIA promoted

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Arab spring and tortured.

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Speaker 2: Well after this very dramatic period, Abdullah encountered a charismatic

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figure named Ahmed al Hassan an Iraqi Shia leader who

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claimed he was the Yamani, a prophesied precursor to Islam's

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messiah figure, the Mahdi. Okay, quick sidebar. The Mahdi in

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Islamic eschatology is a divinely guided leader expected to establish

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a kingdom of justice at the end of times.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Abdullah became deeply convinced that Ahmed al Hassan was the

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real deal, eventually announcing himself as Ahmed's appointed successor in

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Speaker 1: By the way, I mean, guys, Shia is crazy. I

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don't I don't think I have to tell you guys this,

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but sa Islam is absolutely nuts. And that doesn't mean

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that I'm oh.

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Speaker 5: Listen to desionist, listen to the desirest us.

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Speaker 1: No, dude, they're both crazy, okay, but Shia Islam is

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insane crazy. I played you the Shia rave. I mean anyway,

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are constantly plagued with Messiah claimants as well. Right, So

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this is not unique to Islam with its false prophets,

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its maidy claimants or whatever. But there's just some really

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really wild stuff in Shia. Not that there's not wild

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stuff in the Sunni stuff too, It's it's all just goofy, dude.

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so through the link right there anyway, So how many

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we got anybody in the audience convinced that Abdullah Hasham

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Speaker 2: Taking on titles such as the Second Mahdi and the

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Riser of the Family of Muhammad. Now fast forward to today.

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An Abdullah or Abba al Sadik, as he's now called,

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has formally established a religious group called the Amadi Religion

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of Peace and Light. They're a relatively small but international movement,

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with followers spread across forty different countries. They've launched satellite

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TV channels like the Black Banners of the East, and

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published their own scriptures, including Abdullah's recent release, The Mahdi's Manifesto,

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which lays out his vision for a divine just state.

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Speaker 1: He's a divine justice warrior. Of course, everyone in this

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audience already knows that there's an immediate disqualifier. Look, we

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need to start thinking about disqualifiers in religious argumentation and apologetics.

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What do I mean I mean, there's certain things that

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are such a systemic level problem in your worldviewer and

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your system that if you fall for them, or if

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you are wrong on these points, your whole system is

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immediately disqualified. You're out strike three, dude. And I did

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a helpful video here laid down sort of laying out

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this whole point of the no new revelations, right, And

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it's just funny to me that here we have an

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Islamic iteration and it would already be disqualified if we

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understood that Islam itself is disqualified because there's no new

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public divine revelations after the Apostles died, right. And here

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is this video right there if you want to see

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how we can easily disqualify at a systemic level any cults,

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any groups, any systems that claim that there's new public

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divine revelations. Now, arguably, Roman Catholicism also could fit into

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this category, because I recognize that Roman Catholics at least

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practically confess that public divine revelation ceased with the death

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of the Apostles. But how many of us can testify

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testify to the fact that most Roman Catholics actually treat

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Fatima like new public divine revelation, don't they? And I

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started thinking about it, is the papacy itself any different

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than new public ongoing divine revelation. I mean, the Pope

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speaks es Cathedral. He basically is a one, is my view,

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kind of a cult leader. So no, I think that

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bringing up systemic disqualifiers one of these examples would be

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the very thing that you see here again where Taylor Marshall,

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for example, is in twenty twenty and in twenty twenty

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three promoting the quote prophecy of quote Blessed Anna Taigi

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that is equivalent to tradcat QAnon, where the world is

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plunged into an apocalyptic chaos at the election of a

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new pope. These examples, as well as Marshall's vision of

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engorged milkers, demonstrate that tradcats are in the exact same

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position as charismatics. Sam Shamoun scam Shamou is a charismatic.

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public divine revelations, and thus every time their stupid fake

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prophecies don't come about. They're no different than the Jehovah's

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witnesses who predicted the end of the world many times

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over and revised it. They're no different than Harold Camping,

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who predicted the end of the world many times over

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and will just revise it when it didn't happen. They're

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all in the same boat because they're all under the

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same delusions. They violate Deuteronomy thirteen and eighteen's standards of

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if a prophet tells you a thing and it doesn't

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come true, you know not to listen to them. That's simple.

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How many tradcats, how many sadas, including most Holy Family

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Monastery in the Quack Kook cult groups have said John Paul,

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the second final Antichrist revealed francis final Antichrist, and when

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yet again, here the tradcats are telling us the final Antichrist.

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Speaker 6: From Earth and it's the form of wars and revolutions.

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And then the other is from heaven, and it's the

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darkness that lasts three days. Nothing will be visible, and

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the air will have literal accoutings. Wrong with the air.

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You can't see anything. And then she gives us this

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detail only blessed candles can be lighted and will fordably so.

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Light bulbs aren't going to work. Your computer's not going

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to work, your car is not going to work. Any

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of the man made forms of light.

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Speaker 1: Right, but will the magical mystical cat nip, cat ass, hair, dust,

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orbs floating around will they still give us light? Can

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we get orb light during this three days of darkness?

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According to the charismatic Roman Catholics out there, again, that's

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the pressing question, right, Well, turns out there is a solution.

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three days of darkness that's coming because of the final

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papal election or whatever nonsense this is. Now, this is

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not just from Taylor Marshall, one of my former friends

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many many years ago, a trad Cat. I heard this

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thousand and seven eight pushing this very popular I don't

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even know what you call it, private revelation, whatever that's

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supposed to mean on the Roman Catholic world and predicting

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all this sort of nonsense, and then when it doesn't happen,

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they just ignore it and move on. Right, just like

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Mary's statements at Fatima that the Immaculate Heart of Mary

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will convert Russia to her Immaculate Heart, which means that

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Russia will become Roman Catholic. And then when you point

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out that hasn't and won't happen. Oh but you see,

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it wasn't done right. Right. The Pope didn't say the

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magic words right, and so he didn't obey Mary, even

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though the Vatican already said that they did do the

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request of Fatima multiple times over. Oh but you see,

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it's really a conspiracy because they didn't actually do the

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magic words right. And we've done many many podcasts. If

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you guys remember three or four years ago, right, the

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tradcats went wild lofton Marshall, all of them, because Francis

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was gonna do the consecration of Russia the right way.

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And what did we tell you guys back then, nothing burger,

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nothing's going to happen. It's a bunch of nonsense. And

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guess who was right? We were right. Did any of

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the tradcats revise their bull crap? Of course not. And

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if you doubt me on that. Just remember, I mean,

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does no one have a memory? Three years ago Pope

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Francis to consecrate Russia. Fatima signs and wonders, what was

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this three or four years ago? Let's se March twenty third,

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twenty twenty two. Three years ago, did Francis do any

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of what all the Engorged Milker proponents were telling you

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was gonna happen? No, no, Georgi one dollar. Have you

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ever considered Islamic Jesus that he will cancel jju, break

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the crosses and fight against the Christians. Do you think

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this makes him Antichrist? Could be Jasper Daddy Falcon. Are

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you familiar with doctor Michael Heiser. Yes, he used to

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subscribe to my website for years. His book, Me On

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Seem realm had me break free of low church Protestant nonsense.

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He passed away. I'm aware, Thank you. Orthodox Big Chungue

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is five dollars. This guy thinks he's the Mahdi. Dude

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needs to take a shower. Dude thinks he's in Doune. Yeah,

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he thinks he's a quizots hot right, yes, Ua bar

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five dollars, Jay, can you make a video refeting Hinduism.

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What about sod Guru? I mean Orthodoxy in the religion

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The Future refused Hinduism and Tristan and I did multiple

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podcasts years ago about sod Guru. The reason that we

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have too many people? What does he say? Too many feats?

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Too many feeds. The reason that we have overpopulation is

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too many feats. I forget what is No, we have

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too much carbon footprint because too much feeds. That's where

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it is. Austin Kyle ten dollars. Yeah, I've been watching

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your videos for some time. I moved towards Orthodoxy. I

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come from a Southern Baptist background. What are good books

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to pick up to get into Orthodoxy? I have a

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reading list on my website, but I would say read

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doctor Clark Carlton's series because those are directed against Protestants,

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Catholics and non believing peoples. All right, So, guys, if

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you want to support the stream, you can do so

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through superchats, either natively in YouTube or through stream labs

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that's pinned in the chat. You can send me a

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super chat and they'll read your comment or your question.

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So let's get back to Cameron's discussion of the latest

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new anti Christ drip drop. Now, you guys, remember the

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Vegans told us that Tristan was the Antichrist. Tristan Haggard

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was gonna lead the final Day's Armageddon battle against the

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Vegans the carnivores. We're gonna lead the battle. I'm not joking.

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There was Vegan saying this recently against the vegans in

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this apocalyptic battle, and the main contender amongst the Vegans

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for Antichrist was Tristan. So I'm gonna have to get

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together an Antichrist creator clash where we have a squaring off,

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a blood sport debate between Abdullah Hashim and Tristana Haggard.

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Who will win? Who will win?

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Speaker 2: And to give you like a feel for what this

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guy believes about leadership, here's a quote directly from his

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Man of Festo quote. Every town, county, city, state, country,

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every movement, revolution, community, and society needs a leader or

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else it is doomed to damn son.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of I like his the layout of his

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wisdom here. It's like for every society needs a leader

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or it will fail. Like this sounds like something, This

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sounds like a paper. A fifth grader was tasked with writing, right,

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I mean, this is so stupid, but you know what,

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it's so stupid, it'll probably actually like take off, right,

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Like the dumbest shit ever is what takes off and

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is successful if you haven't noticed. So actually, the fact

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that this is so dumb and so like every town

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need a wheedle. I learned this on the front lines

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fighting Mohammed Hasnibobarik.

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Speaker 7: This is crazy.

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Speaker 1: Uh oh. I wanted to see if I could find

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the vegan guy who says Trustan is the Antichrist. By

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the way, I'm not trying to be mean, because it's

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not like this guy actually believes this, right, and he

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believes this because I suspect I suspect more and more

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people are having mental issues in a very serious way.

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We have a lot of people who are on meds

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and we don't even realize it.

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Speaker 7: Let's try it this way.

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Speaker 1: I thought we're gonna I thought we were gonna find it.

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Let's try vegan antichrist. Let's see if we can get

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this guy's videos. They're pretty funny. Dang it. I can't

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remember that guy's name, but it's a small vegan channel

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who does numerology. Shocker and uh yeah, so Tristan Haggard

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is let's see, let's try last time, is the Antichrist

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because I really want to see the Mahdi square off

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against Tristan.

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Speaker 7: A dang dude.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he left YouTube. I don't know, but I mean

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it's worth considering.

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Speaker 2: Fail Without inadequate leader, the people are forced to choose

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between inadequate ones. Not exactly the most part.

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Speaker 1: This is some high tier ship right here. Without a

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good leader, people must choose badly.

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Speaker 2: Particulate leader. But he criticizes popular elections and democratic processes,

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arguing that true leaders are divinely chosen by God, also

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the true successor of the apostle Peter and therefore their

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rightful pope. So in his own words, from him he might.

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Speaker 1: Win over some of the set of a contests. I mean,

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if you're a set of a contests, you got to

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realize that all the cardinals are ordained in the invalid

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new right of ordination, So there are no there's no

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way if you're a set of a contest to get

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a new pope right. And this is where you get

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Conclavism and a bunch of the other sects and cults

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that split off of the older generation set of a

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contests because they realize there is no way to get

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a pope without the Roman Curia. If there is no

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Roman Curia, then you conceivably what would just have your

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set of a contest sect elect their own pope. And

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that's where you get some of these recent claimants like

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Pope Michael, who was living in Canada. Everybody remembers Pope Michael.

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He passed away a few years ago. The guy who

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had his papacy in his mom's attic. I'm not kidding. Like,

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he lived at home with his mom. They had an

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attic upstairs, and that's where the everybody called it the

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Attican instead of the Vatican because he lived in his

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mom's attic and he would do his papal pronouncements and

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now you know, Francis would come out on the papal

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balcony and do his blessings or whatever, and Pope Michael

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would be out on the his mom's porch in the

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swing and the grandma swing on the porch do his

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papal blessings. Yeah, I'm not joking. There was a y'all

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don't know about. So some of the early set of

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a conscious movements elected. It's called Conclavism. They realized what

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today's low tier, dumb set of a contests haven't figured out,

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which is that you're never gonna have a pope without

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the Roman Curia because in Canon law, the only person

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who can elect a pope is the Roman Curia of

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the cardinals. All the cardinals are a pastate Vatican two,

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invalid elected, invalidly ordained people. I mean, do you guys

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not know that most out of a contests believe that

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the new right of ordination is invalid. So everybody ordained

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after the New Right is invalid. They're not priests, they're

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not bishops. The last pre new right ordination cardinal died

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under Francis, so there's no valid cardinals. If you're a

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strict STA. I can't believe you guys don't know about

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Pope Michael. And I think Pope Michael died last year,

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didn't he He still got his YouTube channel here, So

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let's watch his coronation here, Let's see what happens. Oh,

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this is his a cessor from a year ago when

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he died. So Pope Michael died, and now there's a

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Filipino dude who's standing up on the roof of a

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Mexican restaurant. Up there's a Mexican dude up on a

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Mexican restaurant. But Michael the Second, Oh, Pope Michael the Seconds.

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He looks like he's done in the Philippines. Okay, So

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if y'all are looking for the true, real Apostolic set

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of a concious tried church, it's there's only one, but

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it's in the Philippines, so you're gonna have to make

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your way out. It was a Mexican restaurant. He's up

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there on top of the damn you know, they actually

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got it. That's actually a pretty decent sized building there.

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But we're not looking for Pote Michael the Second. We're

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looking for Yeah, Pope Michael the First. This is July

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the sixteenth, nineteen ninety and holbamus pop them. We have

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a pope.

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Speaker 8: Just elected.

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Speaker 1: Was Michael the first?

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Speaker 9: There you go, but I want to see the footage

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of him on his balcony.

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Speaker 1: Here's the attic Eastern Message twenty ten. This is this

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is the attic in Pope Michael's Eastern Message twenty ten

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from the attic of his mom's house.

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Speaker 10: This is the day the Lord has made let us

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speak glad and rejoice in it. Here here renowned Satan

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and professor of Catholic faith and obedience to a mighty God.

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Soon we shall end the fast of land. However, although

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the obligatory fasting ends, our detachment from the world must continue.

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Let us not return to the world and live as

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if we were pagan's. Let us recall that the Roman

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Catechism tells us that the whole life of a Christian

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ought to be a perpetual penance.

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Speaker 1: It I'm just trying to find the picture of him

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sitting on his mom's porch. That's the but here we go,

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by the way, that's the new Vatican. If you haven't

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seen it, that was my foot. By the way, I'm

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not farting. See I got a sweaty uncreated foot fart going.

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And thank you to Lauren Bass for this documentary. Right here.

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See y'all thought I was joking about. No, he's on

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his grandmama's ports dude.

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Speaker 8: Okay, this is the sitting room. This is where he

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relaxed in the evening.

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Speaker 1: This is the new Vatican sitting room right here, right,

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Vatican in exile.

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Speaker 8: For our day's work, we might play a sermon over there.

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On television or maybe even something entertaining. I don't know

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that I have to explain the.

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Speaker 1: Kitchen to I didn't realize he was such a Southern man.

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This is a straight up Alabama boy. What's he doing

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in damn Canada with a damn Southern accent of that degree?

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Our started the new Southern Vatican.

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Speaker 5: We are going to immediately disqualify any Yankee food from

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being kocer.

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Speaker 1: From now on, only.

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Speaker 5: Hushpupp Is, diet, doctor pepper, and mountain dew will be

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allowed in communion. Here onto the Southern papercy of Pope

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Michael the Second of Holy Alabama.

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Speaker 8: This is, of course where we cook our meals. We

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both take turns cooking. You've actually made a video for

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YouTube right here.

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Speaker 1: Oh shit, on that damn stove. By the way, there's

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the new Vatican Archives right there. So if y'all look

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at for the Vatican Archives is right there over here.

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This is a memo's chapel Saint memo. What if we're

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all wrong and Pope Michael is actually literally the last

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actual Pope. What if this was actually correct and we

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were wrong, I'd be like, damn, I was so wrong.

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Dade Hope Michael was legit. The whole world laughed, and

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we were wrong the entire time.

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Speaker 8: And this is our chapel in here, and this is

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where we do our best work, that is in prayer

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before Almighty gotten.

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Speaker 1: Now what's that. That's the guard dog. That's the look

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at the Vatican. You got the Swiss guard right here here,

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you got the Puss guard outside, the new the Attican.

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Speaker 8: Normal one that comes around here. But there there's an

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ambulance three doors up a while back when they feed cats,

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and I'm seeing those cats coming down here to eat.

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Don't you like what you've got there? Hello, I'm Pope Michael,

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and welcome Tomorrown.

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Speaker 1: Poor guy, he's just a damn uh you know, autism man,

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that's all.

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Speaker 3: He is myself.

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Speaker 8: Basically. That's a picture of one of my favorite saints,

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Saint Antoninas. He like myself, trained himself. Three priests came

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up from Mexico. They said, we are here to see

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Archbishop Lafair to ask him to work with us to

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elect the pope. So the seed was planted.

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Speaker 1: Then all right, well I'm not finding him on his

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mama's porch. I think there's a picture of this is

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July sixteenth nineteen, because he was. He's been interviewed in

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the media many times, and he was churning out the

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videos eight years ago, wasn't he. Anyway, do we have

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any set of a constiest Pope Michael followers in the audience.

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Dang dude, Pope Michael was just churning in and out

488
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the damn lectures and the sermons. He was hard at

489
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it in that tiny little attican. Anyway, that's Pope Michael.

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And uh, let's get back to the Mahdi has manifesto.

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Speaker 2: He says this quote, we are to the Muslim nation

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what the Pope is to Catholics, and what the Dalai

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Lama is to Tibetan Buddhists, and what the Messiah is

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to the Jews.

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Speaker 1: The people are asking about the Palmarian Church. Yes, I've

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known about the Palmarian Church since two thousand and seven,

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and I've read pretty extensively about them. So yeah, I'm very,

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very familiar with all this stuff. I used to be

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in the trackcat world man throughout my twenties. I mean,

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I was never into Pope Michael Edge, so he always

501
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thought it was funny. But yes, I know of all

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the conclaves all the different groups.

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Speaker 2: Pope is illegitimate and the only true successors of the

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prophets and messengers are Abdullah, Ahmed and al Mahdi. In

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other words, Abba al Sadik believes that he was He

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was a explicitly named in a prophetic chain that stretches

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from Jesus to Muhammad and then to his mentor Amad

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al Hassan, and then finally to himself. He argues that

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explicitly here, he says.

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Speaker 3: Jesus Salai Islam appointed his successor in his lifetime, and

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none has the right to appoint by him. He appointed

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Simon Peter when he said, and I tell you that

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you are Peter, and on this rock I will build

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my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.

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I will give you the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven.

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Whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven,

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and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.

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So Jesus sale Islam named the first of his successors,

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and he named the last as well, the comforter. He's said, therefore,

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I'm sending you profits and sages and tease.

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Speaker 1: And when they call doctor, He's the when to make

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it feel all right? Like Muslims are so low tier?

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Do they think the comforter is just some dude?

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Speaker 5: Right, it's just a dude, it says, when the comforter comes,

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that's some dude.

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Speaker 1: That's like doctor feel good. Hey man, I'm just here

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to show up, make y'all feel good.

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Speaker 11: Man.

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Speaker 1: They call me the comforter. Man, I'm here to make

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y'all feel good. Like it's just some dude. He's the

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one to call doctor feel good. He's going to make

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you fe oh aldo Baina three dollars. I watching interviews

533
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of surgeons and patients talking about NDEs near death experiences,

534
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famous famous cardiac surgeon stories. It's very interesting. That would

535
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,960
be interesting to watch. What are your views on these

536
00:35:17,639 --> 00:35:19,599
I've never watched those. I don't know what to say

537
00:35:19,639 --> 00:35:22,679
on those videos. You should do a commentary on them,

538
00:35:23,679 --> 00:35:27,880
that would be interesting. He's the one to call doctor

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00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:32,599
feel good. I mean, imagine being so dumb that you

540
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think that the comforter is a dude, just some like

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future coming guy that you call the comforter like doctor

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feel good or like I mean the very chapter where

543
00:35:47,519 --> 00:35:51,559
it discusses the comforter explains who it is. It's not

544
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,679
some dude. Man, it's not just a guy that shows up, eh,

545
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and the comforter man on here trying to help y'all

546
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,519
know what's up. I'm here. I mean to me, it's

547
00:35:59,599 --> 00:36:04,719
so dumb. I can't even I can't fathom how dumb

548
00:36:06,519 --> 00:36:11,920
the entire Islamic religion is. It's just supremely stupid. Even

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if you didn't believe in religion, like the whole religion

550
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is based on chopping up and misunderstanding the Bible. It's

551
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just insane. Even if you didn't believe the Bible, like,

552
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that's still verifiably what's going on. Right, Even if I

553
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:33,519
didn't believe John fourteen, fifteen sixteen, I could still tell

554
00:36:33,599 --> 00:36:39,480
you that in the passage it's referring to the Divine Person,

555
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the Holy Spirit. It's not talking about some dude that

556
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shows up as a successor. It's just so stupid. It's amazing.

557
00:36:46,519 --> 00:36:50,800
Cards YT two dollars j unmute. I swear that I've

558
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,440
seen this dude in TV shows. It'll probably come out.

559
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This dude was an actor. Now, he was involved in

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the Arab Spring, according to his own testimony, I wouldn't

561
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be surprised if he wasn't some kind of actor or something.

562
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He does look kind of familiar. His boice sounds familiar too.

563
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He cost sounds like I don't know, like I'm not

564
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trying to offend John Hears, but just making a joke.

565
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Here he cost sounds like John here is a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Crucify others. You will flog in your synagogues and pursue

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from town to town. He also said, because of this,

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God in his wisdom said I will send them prophets

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and apostles, some of whom they will kill, and others

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they will persecute. Clearly, Jesus had Sadam spoke of prophets

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who would come after him, and he named the chief

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among them. Nevertheless, I tell you the truth. It is expedient.

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Jesus said for you that I go away, for if

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I go not away, the comforter will not come unto you.

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But if I depart, I will send him unto you.

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And there has never been a man in history who

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claimed to be that comforter.

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Speaker 1: Hey, by the way, I think I might have solved

579
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the mute button problem because I'm not at my normal abode,

580
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and so I have I had to buy a different microphone,

581
00:38:07,639 --> 00:38:11,480
and this microphone has an easily accessible button, so it

582
00:38:11,639 --> 00:38:15,079
might work for me to just mute from the mic

583
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,960
instead of having to click this stupid thing in obs

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which I always miss clicking it. So let's try Maybe

585
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,599
that'll work. I think it'll work. Let's try it that way.

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Speaker 3: Except the best of all profits, the master of mankind, Mohammed.

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He was selling them.

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Speaker 1: On Matthew mcconaughe. It's Matthew McConaughey, dude, that's what he said.

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Speaker 3: He became the inheritor of the messengers, the successor to Jesus.

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Speaker 1: Is not a joke. I don't know what you guys are.

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00:39:01,519 --> 00:39:05,199
This is an actual cult, Like what do they call it?

592
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The religion of Peace and Light or some some gay

593
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,119
ass name the religion Piece and Light?

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Speaker 7: Give you bread.

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Speaker 3: And the Father of mankind, the true Pope.

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Speaker 2: So, according to Abba al Sadik, Mohammad wasn't just a prophet,

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he was literally one of the popes after Peter. Let's

598
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,239
just let that sink in for a second, Okay. He

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claims that Mohammad inherited Peter's role, and thus all subsequent

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Islamic leaders inherited the people authority that originated from Jesus.

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Speaker 1: London accent. Oh, maybe he's a British intelligence mind controlled

602
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cult leader plant. I mean, if he's involved in Arab Spring,

603
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by his own admission, then it's it's entirely possible he's

604
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part of some He's probably of some cutout or like

605
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an NNGO, Like you know, maybe he was an intelligence

606
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operative in an NNGO and he's gone crazy. David m

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Pena five dollars. People are people are so weird. The

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pope could be your neighbor. Apparently Mohammad was a pope,

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which I just learned today. I thought I've gotten I've

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got like multiple histories of the papacy, like academic books

611
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on the history of the papacy, and uh never realizes

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this entire time that Mohammad was one of the popes.

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Now keep in mind that, I mean, imagine being this dumb, right,

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I mean, it's just like, dude, like people are so

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uneducated and it's just sad that people can't use basic

616
00:40:36,079 --> 00:40:41,119
critical thinking skills to reason, Like it should be obvious

617
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just looking at this dude with his old air, his

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whole air brushed by the way it looks if you

619
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watch the full picture there's another picture of him being interviewed.

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You can't really see it in this video, but there's

621
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another picture where it's all lit up and you can

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see his chapel. I don't know what he's got. It

623
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,119
actually looks like a cross between a synagogue, an Orthodox church,

624
00:41:02,159 --> 00:41:05,079
and a pagan temple. It looks really weird, Francis, because

625
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he's got like a giant bust that looks like a caesar.

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I'll show you another pick. You can't really see it

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in this video, but you'll see what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Recently passed away, okay. In ab al Sadik wasted no

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time capitalizing on this tragic event.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: In a video addressed specifically to Christians, he made a

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shocking declaration about the people throne.

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Speaker 3: The earth swallowed the false pope. He was killed by

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the mere breath of the believers, chanting lebake alba.

635
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Speaker 5: The bacon is now solid. The bacon is now solid.

636
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The bacon is now solid. The bacon is now solid.

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Speaker 1: See right there, you can kind of see his his

638
00:41:53,599 --> 00:41:56,519
setup here. Let me zoom in on it for you.

639
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So he's got like a bust of I can't tell

640
00:42:01,079 --> 00:42:03,039
what it is. It looks like Caesar, but I'm sure

641
00:42:03,039 --> 00:42:07,199
it's some like Muhammed or something who knows what it is,

642
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,760
can't really tell it. Maybe it's supposed to be him, right,

643
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And then he's got like it looks like an iconostasis.

644
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That's the crazy part, with like neon lights above the

645
00:42:17,599 --> 00:42:19,480
icon of stasis. Isn't that weird?

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Speaker 3: And the throne of falsehood was shaken. This miracle is

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no less significant than the one which occurred at the

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hands of the believers with Joshua, the son of now Naleisadam.

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When they're mere presence around the walls of Jericho and

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the South.

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Speaker 1: Oh damn dude, these guys chanted and took out Francis.

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I wonder if they I wonder if they what they

653
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charged for chance, Because I got some people i'd like

654
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them to chant at chant The bacon is now solid

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00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,880
at some people I don't like, I'm gonna have to

656
00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:59,840
reach out to the Mahdi and be like, hey, dude,

657
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I got a little bit of bitcoin I might donate

658
00:43:02,679 --> 00:43:04,559
if I could get y'all to chant as some of

659
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the people I don't care for. The bacon is now solid.

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00:43:08,119 --> 00:43:12,239
The bacon is now solid. By the way, what do

661
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,000
y'all think of that. That dumb picture of him doesn't

662
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:21,960
even look like him. The picture looks like like DJ Khalid. Dude,

663
00:43:23,559 --> 00:43:29,920
do what if DJ Khalid is the is the mad bro? Do?

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00:43:30,079 --> 00:43:32,599
That picture on the back is DJ Khaleed? Look at

665
00:43:32,679 --> 00:43:33,119
that idead.

666
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Speaker 5: Let's see if we can find DJ Khaled in a hoodie.

667
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,920
The bacon is now solid. The bacon is now solid.

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Speaker 1: Is in a beanie? DJ colored and a beanie? DJ

669
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Collid in a beanie? Baby?

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Speaker 5: Oh shit, look at that? There we go, it's DJ Colled.

671
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The bacon is now solid. The bacon is now solid.

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Speaker 1: Look at that right there, and then look at this

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00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:32,039
dude on the wall. That's DJ Colled. Dude, the bacon

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is now solid. The bacon is no solid.

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Speaker 3: Bounds of their horns caused the mighty walls to collapse.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so he claims that the death of Pope Princess

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was literally caused by his own followers protests and prayers.

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Speaker 1: U can you prove it wasn't exactly they didn't think?

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So all you papists, I want one papist to lay

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out one piece of evidential proof, since y'all's a bunch

681
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of evidentialists. Proved that his chance didn't kill Pope Francis

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boom Baby.

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Speaker 2: To sum it up very clearly, Abba al Sadik believes

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at least four things. He's the Mahdi and in times

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Islamic figure prophesied to restore justice. Number two, he's the

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rightful pope, having inherited A.

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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, I just thought of something though, to

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restore justice? How do we know justice isn't a dude?

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The comforter is just a dude. If he's going to

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restore justice, maybe we're just waiting on justice to show up.

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And justice is the successor to Mohammed Oh whatever? Uh

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what's his name? Abdullah Hashan? Hey, Justice, where are you at?

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Speaker 2: We're Justice at party directly from Peter through Muhammad somehow. Three,

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the current papacy, especially now after Pope Prince's death, is

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illegitimate and divinely rejected. And then four, he's here to

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establish a global state ruled directly by God through him,

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fulfilling both Christian.

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Speaker 1: And Islamic end times, the bacon is no solid and

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again sold.

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Speaker 2: Okay, they're not mine, and believe me, I'm itching to

701
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,320
address how biblically and historically whil these assertions are.

702
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: But first, wait a minute, though, and again, evidentialist papists,

703
00:46:21,119 --> 00:46:24,239
how are you going to prove that his chanting didn't

704
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:29,360
kill Francis? You can't. Oh, then it's possible. Well, if

705
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,360
it's possible, then I guess now the science and the

706
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:33,960
wonders tell us that we got to go with the

707
00:46:34,039 --> 00:46:37,159
Mahdi dude on your epistemic grounds.

708
00:46:37,199 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 2: Papists, really evaluate whether or not he is the anti

709
00:46:40,519 --> 00:46:43,119
Christ or just another misguided cult leader. We have to

710
00:46:43,199 --> 00:46:46,800
understand what the Bible actually says about the Antichrist. First,

711
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:47,559
let's get clear.

712
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 1: All right, we are gonna move on. We know what

713
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,320
the Antichrist texts in the Bible say. Is that everything

714
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:06,000
from Madi what's his name? Now, let me show you

715
00:47:06,199 --> 00:47:10,679
the full picture of his room, his little and by

716
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,440
the way, the other thing that I thought was funny,

717
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:16,280
I went and watched them his videos today. He a

718
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,639
lot of cult leaders. If you notice, they kind of

719
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,039
act like this is especially true with O show, right.

720
00:47:22,159 --> 00:47:28,599
Cult leaders are always acting freaking high as hell. Dude.

721
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:34,960
They're always just like, you ask him a question and

722
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:42,760
then they're just like, we must do the right thing. Right,

723
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,960
let me show you he's about to fall over. Let's see,

724
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:53,880
I watched the video of him addressing lgbtq's where's that at?

725
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,119
I like how every every one of his videos is

726
00:48:01,159 --> 00:48:05,360
a fundraiser? Like, why is every video is a fundraiser?

727
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 8: I know?

728
00:48:07,119 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 1: I saw a video on here about addressing LGBTQ. Where's

729
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:11,719
it at?

730
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:27,039
Speaker 7: All?

731
00:48:27,119 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 12: Right?

732
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:34,039
Speaker 1: Let me try it this way? Oh here it is

733
00:48:34,519 --> 00:48:38,760
all right? Check this out? All right? So we got

734
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:45,679
uh Mindy Kaling over here doing an interview with him, right.

735
00:48:47,119 --> 00:48:49,119
Speaker 13: Dear time of the family of Muhammad Abasodik.

736
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: We then come.

737
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:53,760
Speaker 11: My dear sister and companion Alia.

738
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: Thank you, my dear. It's just he's talking like David

739
00:48:58,039 --> 00:49:00,800
Blaine over here. David Blaine's always talking like he's pilled out,

740
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,119
like he could barely even just open his eyes.

741
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 7: Right.

742
00:49:04,159 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 13: Thank you very very much for the honor of sitting

743
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,000
with me in doctoral fun today.

744
00:49:07,039 --> 00:49:08,760
Speaker 1: God bless you guys the honors on mine.

745
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me Obsatik.

746
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 13: We have this very fascinating phenomenon that is taking place

747
00:49:14,599 --> 00:49:17,079
right now in this Dawa in the call of mamal Mehdi.

748
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,559
We know that you have been extraordinarily generous. You have

749
00:49:20,679 --> 00:49:22,960
opened your doors to each and every person out there,

750
00:49:23,039 --> 00:49:24,400
inviting them to this covenant.

751
00:49:26,119 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 1: What do y'all think of the aesthetics of his neon

752
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,639
chapel there, Well, he's got some. I thought that was neon,

753
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:36,559
but he's actually got some. He's blocking out the light

754
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:41,280
and then he's got neon above the podium, and then

755
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,320
he's got his Kondo stasis.

756
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 13: Behind him, inviting them to this call as the leader

757
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,679
of the Ahni religion of Peace and Light, as the

758
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:51,639
representative of God on Earth today.

759
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 1: Dude, he just wants to touch the butts of the

760
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,920
brown chicks. That's it. Like, I can't like people just

761
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,280
try to oh mysticism. Oh, I gotta figure it out.

762
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,480
He's just trying to get with her and that other

763
00:50:03,119 --> 00:50:05,440
chick in the other video. That's it, man, you're overthinking it,

764
00:50:06,199 --> 00:50:09,320
and we are witnessed all the cult leaders are just

765
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:13,519
trying to touch butts and they use it's their game, Dude,

766
00:50:13,639 --> 00:50:17,920
they don't when he was a revolutionary Arab spring activist.

767
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:20,599
You're not getting a lot of game. You're not getting

768
00:50:20,599 --> 00:50:22,920
a lot of play with that. You could get a

769
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:26,239
lot more play if you're a divinely appointed messenger, dude.

770
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:26,599
Speaker 11: Duh.

771
00:50:27,599 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 13: I think certain people having these questions regarding certain groups

772
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:36,239
of people, and I'm referring here specifically to the LGBTQ community.

773
00:50:36,599 --> 00:50:37,599
Speaker 3: There are those out there.

774
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,599
Speaker 13: Who are questioning the fact that we do not openly

775
00:50:40,679 --> 00:50:44,800
condemn them or actively reject them in this call. There

776
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,119
hasn't been no statement saying that they are not invited

777
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:50,119
to the call or that they are condemned. And we

778
00:50:50,159 --> 00:50:52,440
would like to discuss that with you and see what

779
00:50:52,599 --> 00:50:55,159
it is that. The comment on that would be, what

780
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:56,320
is that bus there?

781
00:50:56,480 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: It looks like I can't make it out. It looks

782
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:05,800
like a weird like a Western like a like an

783
00:51:06,039 --> 00:51:08,119
accountant or something like a dude that's going to do

784
00:51:08,159 --> 00:51:10,599
your taxes. He's got glasses. It's like a bust of

785
00:51:10,679 --> 00:51:12,400
a dude that's like a boomer that's going to do

786
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,360
your taxes. All right, I thought it was like Caesar,

787
00:51:15,519 --> 00:51:21,679
but upon reflection, it looks more like an accountant. So

788
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:31,079
here's your genius definitely appointed messenger here. Yeah so yeah, so.

789
00:51:34,119 --> 00:51:34,599
Speaker 3: That would be.

790
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 1: Yeah.

791
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 11: So I think I would initially disagree with your opening

792
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:49,079
statement where you said that I was generous for opening

793
00:51:49,159 --> 00:51:52,360
my door to all people. I think that God's door

794
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,679
is automatically open for all people.

795
00:51:55,760 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 1: I super deep, dude, Why does he not move? It's

796
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:07,079
like dudes like frozen, right, Dude, he can't move. It's

797
00:52:07,159 --> 00:52:10,079
like somebody said, tag you're it. You gotta freeze, and like,

798
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:13,400
dude still thinks he can't move. Man, you can move,

799
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,719
nobody somebody. Just because somebody tags you doesn't mean you

800
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:17,159
can't move.

801
00:52:17,199 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 7: Man.

802
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: It's just a game, dude.

803
00:52:19,119 --> 00:52:22,039
Speaker 11: I think the mere existence of a creature on the

804
00:52:22,079 --> 00:52:25,239
face of the planet, with God given life and the

805
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:30,400
ability to breathe and think and act and have Oh, that.

806
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: Was really profound. Remember oh show when he was like

807
00:52:38,559 --> 00:52:46,159
stoned and he was sitting there talking and he was like,

808
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:51,599
I am drunk or no. Now, you can't play a

809
00:52:51,639 --> 00:52:54,360
lot of these because they'll get you. They'll they'll tag you,

810
00:52:54,519 --> 00:53:05,559
right man, I am Jenny. That's what I'm talking about.

811
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,840
That's my kind of cult letter. I amn't showed drunk

812
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:15,280
right now mine and I am drunk drunk right now?

813
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:24,079
All right, moving on. That's uh, that's what we got

814
00:53:24,159 --> 00:53:28,119
going on there now. If y'all didn't know. In terms

815
00:53:28,159 --> 00:53:35,719
of Jeff style, mceffrey Virginia Geoffrey passed away, apparently from

816
00:53:36,119 --> 00:53:42,800
the s word self unaliving, and she was the Jeff

817
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:47,880
Sty mceffrey survivor, and she claimed a few years ago

818
00:53:48,039 --> 00:53:52,039
that she was not going to engage in unliving and

819
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:57,239
now there apparently has occurred an unliving event. So I

820
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,639
don't know the details, but it is obviously vicious, and

821
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:04,440
I think no one is really surprised. I don't think

822
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:10,239
anybody believes that Jeffsin mceffrey unlived himself. Whether you believe

823
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:14,079
he was taken care of, or whether you believe he

824
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:19,000
was spirited away, whatever you think, it's kind of obvious, right,

825
00:54:19,119 --> 00:54:21,199
And so we have one of the last Jeffson mceffrey,

826
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:27,239
or one of the most important jeff'son mcgeffrey survivors, is

827
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,440
no longer with us, and she said it would happen.

828
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,119
So there's that. I'm not gonna play on this comment

829
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,880
but or all this video, but Sean and Lionel did

830
00:54:37,199 --> 00:54:43,000
cover this, so you can check that out there. We're

831
00:54:43,039 --> 00:54:47,079
not going to be listening to indie no indie pop

832
00:54:47,199 --> 00:54:52,119
music right now. We're not going to be listening to

833
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,639
shitty music, although I do have a nice collection of

834
00:54:54,679 --> 00:54:58,119
shitty music. I might play you in a minute, but

835
00:54:58,519 --> 00:55:01,840
next I did want to talk about. I'll a little

836
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:07,719
bit of this because apparently Sargone today why I'm not

837
00:55:08,599 --> 00:55:13,599
a Christian like bertrand Russell right, So the famous essay

838
00:55:13,679 --> 00:55:15,360
Bert and Russell right, why I'm not a Christian? So

839
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:19,239
I guess Sargon is kind of doing a play on that.

840
00:55:19,559 --> 00:55:22,400
So and I've only heard Jimbob reference a couple of

841
00:55:22,519 --> 00:55:26,039
Sargon's points, So I don't actually know the reasons that

842
00:55:26,199 --> 00:55:29,400
Sargon gives. But from the couple of points that I

843
00:55:29,519 --> 00:55:36,159
heard Jimbob critiquing, they're not very high tier. And and

844
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,400
I don't you know, I don't have anything against Sargone.

845
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:43,800
I never talked to him. I'm sure he's a wonderful

846
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:48,079
chap to converse with. A lot of these kinds of

847
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:55,159
media talker yapper people are not very sophisticated when it

848
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:58,840
comes to the topics that we talk about in discuss

849
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:02,880
I think everybody knows this, right, So, you know, maybe

850
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:08,639
he's on a journey towards the right religion. We'll see.

851
00:56:09,159 --> 00:56:12,440
Let's hear some of his reasons. And I couldn't find

852
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:16,440
a good boiled down so I don't know how far

853
00:56:16,599 --> 00:56:19,880
into this or what, but let's hear some of the reasons.

854
00:56:20,559 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 14: How have you been really well, really, I'm busy.

855
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,320
Speaker 12: Yeah, oh yeah, I've seen you've been very, very busy

856
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:29,360
with but otherwise very good things, good stuff. Now, this conversation,

857
00:56:29,519 --> 00:56:34,639
I wanted to center it all around atheism theology in

858
00:56:34,679 --> 00:56:38,079
the modern world now, and I wanted to get your

859
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:44,400
views on lots of different topics within the topic of theology.

860
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:50,159
Would you say that you're on a type of spiritual

861
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,320
journey at the minute or you're not. Are you're still

862
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:53,000
an atheist?

863
00:56:54,199 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 1: You know?

864
00:56:54,519 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 12: I believe you were involved somewhat in some conversations around

865
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:05,039
theological topics online and debates. Has your havee changed over

866
00:57:05,079 --> 00:57:05,440
the years?

867
00:57:07,639 --> 00:57:10,559
Speaker 14: So I used to be a new atheist by default, basically,

868
00:57:11,159 --> 00:57:16,599
ale I liked watching Christoph Hitchin's videos online like everyone else,

869
00:57:16,719 --> 00:57:18,920
and I'd not been raised in religious society, so I

870
00:57:19,039 --> 00:57:23,440
was just I was just a materialist, just like everyone else.

871
00:57:25,239 --> 00:57:29,639
And I don't think that's great. I think there are

872
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:33,599
problems that arise from this because I think the man

873
00:57:34,119 --> 00:57:35,719
is a spiritual animal, whether he likes.

874
00:57:35,639 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 8: It or not.

875
00:57:36,119 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 1: Right, Well, I'm interested to know what does that mean

876
00:57:39,199 --> 00:57:41,559
if you're no longer a materialist and man is a

877
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,280
quote spiritual animal. I don't know what that means, but

878
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:48,400
I think a lot of people who were into the

879
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:52,320
fads and the phases of new atheism and all that

880
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,119
kind of stuff when it was popping off, you know,

881
00:57:54,199 --> 00:57:58,159
in the two thousands, and TJ. Kirk had his you

882
00:57:58,239 --> 00:58:03,360
know what was this show Atheists? Matt del Hunty's was

883
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:07,480
Atheist Experience whatever, And I think a lot of people

884
00:58:07,599 --> 00:58:12,320
eventually kind of evolved past that to use their terminology,

885
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:17,159
their magical phraseology, because you see that it's pretty low tier,

886
00:58:17,239 --> 00:58:21,880
it's pretty empty, it's pretty unsatisfying, and it's actually pretty

887
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:26,440
philosophically weak and indefensible. I think when you're first presented

888
00:58:26,519 --> 00:58:30,639
with critiques of religion, especially of low tier evangelical stuff

889
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:34,280
or very emotional Pentecostal charismatic stuff, and you see that

890
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,679
they don't have very good responses, right the same way

891
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:40,039
that say Muslims like Muslim Lantern right goes in debates

892
00:58:40,079 --> 00:58:42,559
all the worst evangelicals, then it makes it look like

893
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:47,000
right Christianity is just an idiot religion, as if there

894
00:58:47,039 --> 00:58:50,159
aren't good representatives or actually competent people who could defend

895
00:58:50,199 --> 00:58:53,400
the positions. Same type of strategy that you see Ben

896
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,960
Shapiro doing for years going in debating purple haired freaks

897
00:58:57,039 --> 00:59:00,199
that are twenty years old on a college campus and

898
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:06,119
can't answer or give a sentence without contradicting within a minute. Right,

899
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:11,719
all that kind of low hanging fruit stuff. It can

900
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:16,199
work to build an audience, but over time people grow

901
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,440
out of it. They move on because they realize and

902
00:59:18,519 --> 00:59:25,280
they encounter better answers, better positions, more fleshed out philosophical discourse,

903
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:31,480
actual academic responses from academic Christians, doctor Branson, right, people

904
00:59:31,559 --> 00:59:36,079
like that who can actually defend monarchical trinitarianism against a Muslim,

905
00:59:36,119 --> 00:59:40,519
whereas Muslims are used to debating, you know, just garbage

906
00:59:40,559 --> 00:59:44,280
tier evangelicals who couldn't even defend the Trinity on the

907
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:49,159
most basic level. So it's good that Sargon has moved

908
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:53,880
out of that two thousand and eight ship tier stuff.

909
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:55,880
But almost everyone has, right, I mean, there's just not

910
00:59:56,079 --> 00:59:59,559
a lot of that left nowadays, of that, you know,

911
01:00:00,159 --> 01:00:02,960
or two thousand and eight, two thousand and five atheism

912
01:00:03,039 --> 01:00:03,719
stuff anymore.

913
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 14: But the thing is the thesis of materialism is very persuasive,

914
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:14,199
as in, if the universe is just atoms and void,

915
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:18,760
and it mechanically moves on itself to produce certain predictable outcomes.

916
01:00:19,679 --> 01:00:24,519
Then if that's all that there is, then everything spiritual

917
01:00:24,679 --> 01:00:28,320
was essentially nonsense from the word go, and the progress

918
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:31,480
of science kind of implies that, yeah, that is all

919
01:00:31,639 --> 01:00:36,159
there is. And so the more science advances, the more

920
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:42,360
almost ridiculous the spiritual component of human life looks. Because

921
01:00:42,599 --> 01:00:45,559
the magic in the universe was there to explain things

922
01:00:45,599 --> 01:00:48,760
that we didn't have answers to. Why does the Sun

923
01:00:49,559 --> 01:00:51,880
travel across the sky? Well, Helios and his sun chariot

924
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:53,159
brings it across.

925
01:00:54,320 --> 01:01:01,239
Speaker 1: Well, this is also just just a very normy take. Again,

926
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,760
I would kind of expect a little more philosophical depth

927
01:01:05,039 --> 01:01:09,800
from Sargon, because I do think Sargon's an intelligent guy.

928
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:14,159
It's just the problem with a lot of the public

929
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:17,480
domain yapper people that have been talking head yappers for

930
01:01:17,599 --> 01:01:22,159
twenty fifteen years whatever. They just don't know anything about philosophy.

931
01:01:22,199 --> 01:01:25,480
They're not able to answer or even ask. They're not

932
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:29,719
even aware of the questions right, Like, for example, science

933
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:33,039
works on principles that are not under the purview of

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the scientific method. You can't put those under a microscope,

935
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:39,440
you can't measure them, you can't bend them. You can't

936
01:01:40,199 --> 01:01:43,480
trap them in a mouse trap. Where are they? What

937
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:45,960
are they? How are they? And how do we know

938
01:01:46,119 --> 01:01:50,280
that they are? Those are all valid questions unless you

939
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:54,039
just want to ignore them, which many normies do. Neil

940
01:01:54,039 --> 01:01:57,760
de Gras Tyson says, we don't ask those questions anymore

941
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:00,360
because it's useless and it's a problem for my position.

942
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:04,000
So moving out of that domain into those asking those

943
01:02:04,079 --> 01:02:07,079
kinds of questions might be a step in the direction

944
01:02:07,239 --> 01:02:09,800
that he needs to go. But I don't even think

945
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that Sargon's aware of those questions. Although at one point

946
01:02:13,039 --> 01:02:15,559
he'll actually start in the gym bob clip I heard

947
01:02:15,679 --> 01:02:20,679
like he starts talking about arguments of philosophy and transcendent.

948
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,320
I don't know if he knows. I can't tell if

949
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:27,840
he's referencing the transcendental argument or if he's referencing just

950
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:29,800
the idea of the transcendent. I'm not sure.

951
01:02:30,559 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 14: So every single day the sun rises and the seasons change,

952
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:37,519
and that the predictable patterns of life are explained with

953
01:02:37,679 --> 01:02:43,000
a story that doesn't describe what is actually happening. Science

954
01:02:43,119 --> 01:02:45,920
actually seems to describe what is actually happening.

955
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:50,639
Speaker 1: This is interesting because you know, it's kind of basic

956
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:54,440
that science and the scientific method do, in a very

957
01:02:54,519 --> 01:02:59,440
limited way, describe how things occur. But by definition, it

958
01:02:59,559 --> 01:03:03,360
can't tell why, and it can't give you value judgments.

959
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:07,000
So every time that he or anyone else talks about progress,

960
01:03:07,239 --> 01:03:12,519
scientific progress, you need a scale, a value judgment. That's

961
01:03:12,519 --> 01:03:15,199
where you get aughts from, that's where you get better worst.

962
01:03:16,119 --> 01:03:19,599
And science as a discipline cannot tell you value judgments

963
01:03:19,639 --> 01:03:23,119
because it can't tell you anything beyond a limited scope

964
01:03:23,239 --> 01:03:26,519
of how things happen. It can never tell you why

965
01:03:26,679 --> 01:03:29,000
things happen, and in.

966
01:03:29,119 --> 01:03:33,679
Speaker 14: Doing so, the demistification of the universe around us strips

967
01:03:33,679 --> 01:03:35,000
away the spiritual.

968
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Speaker 1: Lit And by the way, I mean why at a

969
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,320
big scale, right, I'm not saying why at a small

970
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:42,519
causal scale? Right, like well, why do billiard ball be

971
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:44,719
move when a bill your ball a hit it? Because

972
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:47,000
the calls in the foot, That's why. No, No, I'm

973
01:03:47,079 --> 01:03:50,400
saying that why is there causality at all? Why is

974
01:03:50,519 --> 01:03:53,639
there anything at all? Like those kinds of bigger scale

975
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:58,599
philosophical questions, by the very definition and limitations of science

976
01:03:58,599 --> 01:04:03,480
and scientific method cannot be answered by something that It'd

977
01:04:03,519 --> 01:04:08,480
be like saying why can't the screwdriver you make the

978
01:04:08,639 --> 01:04:12,039
rocket fly. Well, the screwdriver is not made.

979
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:12,239
Speaker 8: To do that.

980
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:15,639
Speaker 1: It's limited in what it can do. It's not the

981
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:18,440
thing that makes a rocket fly. It might be involved,

982
01:04:18,559 --> 01:04:21,320
but it's not able to do that. It's just a screwdriver.

983
01:04:21,639 --> 01:04:24,840
So likewise, the scientific method is a method for studying

984
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:28,559
and understanding and manipulating the natural world. That's really all

985
01:04:28,639 --> 01:04:31,480
it can do. It can't tell you what happened ten

986
01:04:31,559 --> 01:04:34,159
thousand years ago. It can't tell you eleven million years ago.

987
01:04:34,239 --> 01:04:35,639
It can't tell you any of that. It can't tell

988
01:04:35,639 --> 01:04:40,039
you the future. It can you can theorize and try

989
01:04:40,119 --> 01:04:44,719
to back up those theories with interpreting the present day data,

990
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:48,840
but by definition there's no empirical sense data of the past,

991
01:04:49,159 --> 01:04:50,760
much less a million years ago.

992
01:04:51,719 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 14: If it's all just atoms avoid moving on one another,

993
01:04:55,800 --> 01:05:00,039
then there isn't any room for God in this. And

994
01:05:00,159 --> 01:05:03,159
the persuasive power science is found in the technological progress

995
01:05:03,199 --> 01:05:04,719
that we find ourselves with the fact that we can

996
01:05:05,159 --> 01:05:08,800
sit here and do this is in some way a

997
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:10,239
kind of proof that there's no God.

998
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:15,559
Speaker 1: This is so that's solow tier. So because you can

999
01:05:15,679 --> 01:05:21,760
do things with science and tech and because deities used

1000
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,599
to be a primitive form of science in the ancient world,

1001
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:27,480
is what he's trying to argue. Then we don't need

1002
01:05:27,559 --> 01:05:31,519
the deities and the explanations because we can do stuff,

1003
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:36,840
but doing stuff doesn't tell you why it's possible to

1004
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:40,480
do stuff. Right, So I think Sargon has not really

1005
01:05:40,559 --> 01:05:45,920
thought about or encountered meta level questions, paradigm level questions,

1006
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:49,880
presuppositional level questions, because if he did, he would realize

1007
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:53,840
that the scientific method cannot tell you why the scientific

1008
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:58,920
method works, why it's reliable, or why anything is knowable

1009
01:05:59,039 --> 01:06:00,320
or reliable.

1010
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:06,039
Speaker 14: To the materialist perspective.

1011
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:10,599
Speaker 1: And also it would demonstrate that if materialism is true,

1012
01:06:11,199 --> 01:06:15,079
science is impossible. Yes you heard me right. If materialism

1013
01:06:15,199 --> 01:06:19,679
is true, science is impossible because there is no such

1014
01:06:19,719 --> 01:06:22,480
thing as sciencia, which is the word knowledge coming to

1015
01:06:22,639 --> 01:06:24,679
know things, or had to have knowledge of the world,

1016
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:28,480
to have an understanding of basic principles and laws of nature,

1017
01:06:28,599 --> 01:06:32,599
because in a disteleological universe there are no laws. If

1018
01:06:32,679 --> 01:06:36,239
everything is accidental, then nothing is law like you see,

1019
01:06:37,199 --> 01:06:42,039
and there is not justifiable knowledge in an absolutely chaotic,

1020
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:47,519
disteleological accidentalism based worldview. Right, that's what we just saw

1021
01:06:48,119 --> 01:06:50,760
as I tried for two hours to explain or at

1022
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:53,920
least the second half of the debate with Fabian Liberty

1023
01:06:53,920 --> 01:07:00,880
the other day. Right, if everything is accidental, disteleological, just chaos,

1024
01:07:02,039 --> 01:07:06,800
then all of the particulars, even you as an individual,

1025
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:10,280
even though you think there's meaning and there's order in

1026
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:16,639
your subjective, minuscule grand picture perspective, in reality, that's not

1027
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:20,599
the case. In reality, that's also meaningless. It just appears

1028
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:23,760
meaningful to you. But in the grand scheme, if all

1029
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:31,800
reality at megascale is accidentalism, chaos and meaninglessness and nihilism,

1030
01:07:33,239 --> 01:07:36,639
then you are also, by necessity, as a particular within

1031
01:07:36,719 --> 01:07:41,880
that big scope, a nihilistic, meaningless sack of meat, and

1032
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:45,039
you will dissolve into the void and nothing you've done

1033
01:07:45,079 --> 01:07:47,800
has any meaning and it doesn't matter anyway. And so

1034
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:51,800
thus science is also part of this illusion that we

1035
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:55,920
are actually doing anything, accomplishing anything, or that anything is meaningful.

1036
01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:59,280
But I don't think Sargone, And I'm not trying to

1037
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:04,800
be rude or or sassy, because I mean I was.

1038
01:08:05,239 --> 01:08:11,119
I was wanting to debate Sargone back when Spencer debated

1039
01:08:11,199 --> 01:08:15,239
Sargone on Andy Worski Live Okay, I wanted the next

1040
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:16,800
debate with Sargon. I was trying to get it, but

1041
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:18,920
of course he didn't want to do it. So and

1042
01:08:19,039 --> 01:08:21,479
he may have just thought that, you know, oh he's

1043
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:25,199
too you know, small, small channel or whatever. But the

1044
01:08:25,279 --> 01:08:32,079
thing is, I mean I was co hosting with Warski

1045
01:08:32,119 --> 01:08:34,800
around that time, right, So even if I didn't have

1046
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:36,680
a huge channel like I could have still said, well,

1047
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:38,680
but I'm on Warski, so I wanted you debate me

1048
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:46,479
as his co host Nick five dollars and seven cents.

1049
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:49,199
What about those more gold bars in the background than

1050
01:08:49,239 --> 01:08:54,640
Fort Knox. That's funny. I would imagine those are chocolate

1051
01:08:55,039 --> 01:09:00,760
Their gold covered chocolate bars is what those are. Let's see, serr, hypocrite,

1052
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:02,720
what's up? Became a member for three months. I wonder

1053
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:06,399
if Sargon has reaction to do that. He has It

1054
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:09,000
has to do with Western Christianity creating the dialectrical tensions

1055
01:09:09,039 --> 01:09:13,359
between spirituality and the material world. Yes, he seems smart,

1056
01:09:13,399 --> 01:09:15,680
but he offered its own classical foundations of course, right,

1057
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:20,359
So Sargon is a classical liberal, and as I understand,

1058
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:25,880
he's sort of moved in his process of thinking from

1059
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:29,399
what I've seen in the debates on the quote debates,

1060
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:32,520
the tweet debates with him and James Lindsay on Twitter.

1061
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:35,640
Sargon seems to have moved in the direction of like

1062
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:40,680
Nietzscheanism and sort of he doesn't like immigration, you know

1063
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:42,520
this this kind of stuff, like in a more of

1064
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:50,359
a quote right perspective. But at the same time he's

1065
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:53,439
coming out of the classical liberal ethos right. If you

1066
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:56,880
remember back when he debated Spencer, it was about classical

1067
01:09:56,960 --> 01:10:02,439
liberalism's limitations and people groups, shall we say? And uh,

1068
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:05,319
I do not believe that Sargon won that debate. I

1069
01:10:05,399 --> 01:10:10,000
think that he did not win that debate. However, nowadays

1070
01:10:10,039 --> 01:10:13,000
it seems that perhaps Sargon has maybe not moved all

1071
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:16,319
the way in that position as his opponent there, but

1072
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:20,000
at least in the position of being opposed to you know,

1073
01:10:20,159 --> 01:10:26,399
Cure Starmer's Fabian socialism and the you know, extreme social

1074
01:10:27,039 --> 01:10:32,239
degradation that results from Fabian socialism. As we've been pointing

1075
01:10:32,279 --> 01:10:34,880
out for many, many years, and again if you don't

1076
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:37,680
know that Cure Starmer is openly Fabian socialist. So why

1077
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:41,840
is Islam goale everywhere in the UK Because the Fabian

1078
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:44,600
Socialists for one hundred years plus have promoted that that's

1079
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:50,960
why to destroy Western that what do you think, like

1080
01:10:51,039 --> 01:10:56,279
it's like people, well would they do maybe, because if

1081
01:10:56,319 --> 01:10:58,000
you'd listen to me for the last ten years, you

1082
01:10:58,000 --> 01:10:59,880
would know why, because I've been talking about this stuff

1083
01:10:59,880 --> 01:11:03,960
for long time. Uh, let's go back to Sargon.

1084
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:12,399
Speaker 14: Having been raised as a materialist, it's hard to feel spiritual,

1085
01:11:13,079 --> 01:11:17,640
right this this this sort of whatever organ in the

1086
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:21,600
human soul, in the body that it controls, the sort

1087
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:26,479
of the spiritual feeling the one has is the best

1088
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:28,239
deeply atrophied for me.

1089
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:37,479
Speaker 1: Jordaan and ten dollars. This is off topic, But Sam

1090
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:40,720
the orb Oracle has already said doctor Joshua is a

1091
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:43,680
heretic because he's converted Orthodoxy because he said that you

1092
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:47,279
can predicate that trinity as three quote gods or beings,

1093
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:52,039
that it's ipso facto heretical. Well, I mean there's confusion

1094
01:11:52,079 --> 01:11:55,640
over language here because I don't know all of doctor

1095
01:11:55,720 --> 01:12:00,640
Joshua's positions, and I think doctor Branson isn't on board

1096
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:03,039
with that per se. But I mean the Nicing Creed

1097
01:12:03,119 --> 01:12:05,640
says God from God, and it looks like they're the

1098
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:11,039
word God is picking out person from person. So it

1099
01:12:11,239 --> 01:12:13,600
just really depends on what you think the words are

1100
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:16,119
picking out right, And I think the main issue with

1101
01:12:16,279 --> 01:12:19,239
doctor Joshua, according to what I'm told, I haven't seen

1102
01:12:19,319 --> 01:12:22,439
doctor Joshua since he argued with Jake. Right, So he

1103
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:27,039
did a debate with Jake years ago, and I remember

1104
01:12:27,079 --> 01:12:32,239
that debate. But doctor Joshua was at that time Roman Catholic,

1105
01:12:32,319 --> 01:12:35,000
and he's now been received into the Orthodox Church, so

1106
01:12:35,079 --> 01:12:38,039
I know doctor Joshua is at least basically speaking, a

1107
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:42,039
monarchical trinitarian. And so this came up on Twitter, and

1108
01:12:42,119 --> 01:12:45,960
that's why I shared this again for those that are interested.

1109
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:56,920
So here is an article I wrote some years ago

1110
01:12:57,199 --> 01:13:00,920
about how the Cappadocians use the terminal that the Father

1111
01:13:01,159 --> 01:13:04,880
is the one Arka, that's mono Arka, that's where monarch

1112
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:08,880
comes from, mono ark the one cause in the triad.

1113
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:13,560
And if you're Orthodox, this really shouldn't be even controversial, right.

1114
01:13:14,199 --> 01:13:17,960
So this is my article that's kind of a you know,

1115
01:13:18,159 --> 01:13:22,680
just cites a lot of Orthodox Church fathers, Photius, you know,

1116
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:27,039
and others, Palomas, other theologians talking about that we're not

1117
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:31,880
we don't believe in a Western Latin equalitarian triad. Right,

1118
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:34,000
That's why they're not very good at responding to the

1119
01:13:34,119 --> 01:13:38,439
Muslims because Muslims will say, ooh, Jesus prey too, who

1120
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:42,079
Jesus prey too? Well, he's praying to God the Father.

1121
01:13:42,279 --> 01:13:45,560
First Corinthian says, for us there was one God of

1122
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:48,800
the Father. The Creed says, I believe in one God,

1123
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:53,239
the Father, the one God according to the Cappadocians, first

1124
01:13:53,319 --> 01:13:57,199
and foremost picks out the hypostasis of the Father, who

1125
01:13:57,359 --> 01:14:05,600
is the one cause found an Arkae. And this is

1126
01:14:06,399 --> 01:14:10,159
shouldn't even be questionable in Orthodox just it's like basic,

1127
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:17,520
super basic Cappadocian theology. And I cite everything from Cappadocians

1128
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:22,479
to Basil to Florowsky to Laski to John Damascus. I mean,

1129
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:25,119
I go through tons and tons of Sanga, Nazi and Zeus,

1130
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:31,279
tons and tons of just basically this is basically just

1131
01:14:31,399 --> 01:14:33,680
a flora gellium. Right, It's not even really me even

1132
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:36,039
writing an article. It's just a collection of quotes on

1133
01:14:36,119 --> 01:14:41,520
the topic. Is really what this is from Orthodox Saints writers,

1134
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:45,239
et cetera. It's weird to me that anyone even really

1135
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:48,239
has an issue with this. It's it's such a fundamental,

1136
01:14:48,359 --> 01:14:52,880
basic kind of mistake that people make. And I don't

1137
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:55,600
know doctor Joshua's position, so I can't speak to him.

1138
01:14:56,079 --> 01:15:01,680
I haven't heard or affirmed or very what he thinks.

1139
01:15:02,279 --> 01:15:06,159
But what people were saying on Twitter was, oh, he

1140
01:15:06,279 --> 01:15:10,840
says that the word yahweh just picks out God the Father. Okay,

1141
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:14,520
but I mean that's not necessarily denying the full divinity

1142
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:16,520
of the son, right And so a lot of times

1143
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:19,319
people hear monarchical trinitarianism, they get all tripped up and

1144
01:15:19,359 --> 01:15:23,560
they think that that it's some form of subordinationism. Well,

1145
01:15:24,039 --> 01:15:26,399
if you mean in a sense of role, Yeah, the

1146
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:29,800
father has the role of being the one cause, the

1147
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:33,399
one arcae, the one found, the one principle. The son

1148
01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:37,920
does not have that role. He is from the Father, eternally,

1149
01:15:38,279 --> 01:15:42,680
from the father. The son eternally has his source and

1150
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:48,600
his existence from the Father. So he depends on the father. Okay,

1151
01:15:50,119 --> 01:15:55,279
that's basic Nicene Christianity. That's what the original Nicene creed

1152
01:15:55,319 --> 01:15:59,880
at Nicea talks about. The son eternally generates the entirety

1153
01:15:59,920 --> 01:16:02,760
of or excuse me, the father eternally generates the entirety

1154
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:05,039
of the son. And so the first thing to understand

1155
01:16:05,119 --> 01:16:10,119
is that generation is from the father's essence. It is

1156
01:16:10,199 --> 01:16:14,399
not from the essence proper, because that would mean that

1157
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:19,000
all the persons generate the son because they all share

1158
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:22,479
the same essence. But no, the son is eternally begotten

1159
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:30,079
of the father's essence. Now, for those that are interested

1160
01:16:30,159 --> 01:16:36,000
in a more specific lecture series, doctor Branson, who did

1161
01:16:36,079 --> 01:16:40,880
his PhD on the Cappadocians, he is the Orthodox expert

1162
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:45,079
on the Cappadocians, did his lecture series many years ago

1163
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:50,199
that I recommend right here on the monarchia of the Father.

1164
01:16:53,319 --> 01:16:57,000
And it's not even really controversial when you believe and

1165
01:16:57,079 --> 01:16:59,800
understand orthodoxology. So people need to go work their way

1166
01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:04,800
through this and stop listening to people that think that

1167
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:11,039
dustballs are signs of divine guidance and providence. And you know,

1168
01:17:11,079 --> 01:17:13,960
I'm sorry that that scam Shimoun has become what he is,

1169
01:17:14,359 --> 01:17:18,399
So I think he's an absolute lunatic and people should

1170
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:21,279
absolutely avoid him. And if you don't see and have

1171
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:25,680
the discernment at this point to figure that out, then

1172
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:30,520
be my guest and go follow his crazy nonsense, because

1173
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:33,880
you're not going to have the discernment to follow along

1174
01:17:34,039 --> 01:17:42,560
with what we talk about, right, all right where were we?

1175
01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:47,159
I got that, Oh, Carl Benjamin, I got that super

1176
01:17:47,239 --> 01:17:50,880
chat about doctor. But I'm happy to see doctor Joshua

1177
01:17:51,159 --> 01:17:54,000
coming into Orthodoxy. And look, hey, if he's you know,

1178
01:17:54,079 --> 01:17:58,520
coming into Orthodoxy, I feel confident that whatever trinitarian issues,

1179
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:00,640
I don't even know that there is one. Maybe he doesn't.

1180
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:02,560
Maybe this is all just made up internet drama because

1181
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:05,199
I haven't followed it or seen his stuff. If there

1182
01:18:05,319 --> 01:18:07,239
is something he's got wrong, well he's making the right

1183
01:18:07,279 --> 01:18:09,159
move to move into Orthodoxy, and I'm sure that God

1184
01:18:09,199 --> 01:18:11,800
will sort it out. Koudi grav became a remember Oustin

1185
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:13,479
became a member. Justin Henley. What's up?

1186
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:13,680
Speaker 6: Man?

1187
01:18:14,199 --> 01:18:19,840
Speaker 1: What that he is? Smiven Schmirk twenty dollars, Jay. I

1188
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:22,079
will be inside of an ORB tonight. Please pray for

1189
01:18:22,239 --> 01:18:25,760
me the sphere in Las Vegas. I'm going to a

1190
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:28,640
concert to watch Dead and Co. With my wife and

1191
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:31,920
my zoomer dead head son and my zoomer dead head daughter.

1192
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:34,840
Rock and Roll is making a comeback with gen Z.

1193
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:38,079
Well you better not get in prison inside of a

1194
01:18:38,319 --> 01:18:41,439
Yakubian prison, ORB, because that's where I was put for

1195
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:45,199
about twenty years on tattooin and I just got out.

1196
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:51,760
Maylon Kaisner became a member for a month. Christ Has Risen,

1197
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:56,319
happy to see you here. What's up? Man Ian Johnson

1198
01:18:56,399 --> 01:19:02,079
five dollars. Comments like Karl made Carl Benjamin said the

1199
01:19:02,159 --> 01:19:04,920
spiritual organ of the soul maybe makes me think that

1200
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:08,800
he's seen some of your stuff. Could be. I think

1201
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:10,880
a lot of people too that are not really you know,

1202
01:19:11,159 --> 01:19:13,840
familiar with the subject matter and the topics. You know,

1203
01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:17,039
when they hear me talk about something like the transcendental argument,

1204
01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:22,159
they'll start hearing, you know, other uses of the term

1205
01:19:22,279 --> 01:19:24,760
and think it's the same thing, right, Like, Like we

1206
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:27,119
had some people who were critical of us some years

1207
01:19:27,159 --> 01:19:32,680
back that thought that the transcendental argument was like American transcendentalism,

1208
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:37,079
like you know, Henry Thoreau and Walden. Like they're so

1209
01:19:37,199 --> 01:19:40,119
stupid that they didn't even know the difference between these things, right,

1210
01:19:40,239 --> 01:19:43,239
that they were concept fallacy. So and I'm not trying

1211
01:19:43,239 --> 01:19:45,720
to be rude to Carl Benjamin. I mean, I don't

1212
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:48,039
have anything against him. I think, you know, it'd be

1213
01:19:48,079 --> 01:19:53,039
great if he becomes Orthodox. But you know, we're just

1214
01:19:53,079 --> 01:19:57,720
dealing with people who don't know anything about philosophical discourse.

1215
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:05,159
Jordaine ten dollars, Thank you for answering. I think this

1216
01:20:05,359 --> 01:20:09,960
is just scam Shamou being slimy because he's been online

1217
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:12,279
for years and as soon as he leaves Rome for

1218
01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:16,000
Orthodox he becomes a heretic. The guys are attacking him

1219
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:19,119
are a humanists. Yeah, I mean, Sam scam Shamou is

1220
01:20:19,119 --> 01:20:21,600
the actual heretic. Here H Brozie ten dollars. By the way,

1221
01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:23,520
us Kai and I are going to be doing a

1222
01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:28,880
pretty lengthy refutation of scam Shamou tomorrow. H Brazi ten

1223
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:32,079
dollars celeby Whiteberk can confirm this. I was cooking all

1224
01:20:32,119 --> 01:20:39,840
of the Brazilian spurgs in the Catholic chat during the

1225
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:43,319
backlash appearance. Oh, when I was on with the tradcats. Yeah,

1226
01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:47,199
they kept accusing you of being scared to talk about things.

1227
01:20:47,359 --> 01:20:49,159
Yeah that's I mean, that's all they had, Like, they

1228
01:20:49,159 --> 01:20:52,439
don't have anything on me other than stuff. It's not

1229
01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:55,520
even true. But look, man, if people want to be dummies,

1230
01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:05,479
you know, eventually you start to realize, like, uh, if

1231
01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:09,960
people want to fail and they want to be dumb dumbs,

1232
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:14,880
they can go do that. I'm not going to waste

1233
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:21,319
my time and energy for people who actually need what

1234
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:24,520
we talk about. And if they don't see that and

1235
01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:29,359
can't see that, that's not my problem. Susie Hickson, five dollars.

1236
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:32,520
This has made my day. I badly need your laughs.

1237
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:35,119
Thank you Jay in the chat. Well, thank you Susie Hickson.

1238
01:21:35,159 --> 01:21:37,000
You are a new super chatter. I don't recognize you.

1239
01:21:37,159 --> 01:21:41,199
Welcome to the Jim Jones cult over here. I love audio.

1240
01:21:41,319 --> 01:21:45,319
Ten dollars. Where is your afterlife funko pop? That is

1241
01:21:45,359 --> 01:21:47,119
an interesting question. I don't know what it means, but

1242
01:21:47,199 --> 01:21:50,239
I like it. I me mine two dollars. The Cult

1243
01:21:50,399 --> 01:21:56,119
of the Tuk. They're all wearing one cards. Oh wait,

1244
01:21:56,199 --> 01:22:01,720
he said, unmute, we saw that. Uh mkg seven Canadian.

1245
01:22:02,039 --> 01:22:05,159
This Mahdi cult leader is perfect for TikTok, just based

1246
01:22:05,199 --> 01:22:07,479
on the way that he speaks. I wonder if he

1247
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:13,239
will pop off harder than Billy Carson's alien crystal content. Dude, probably.

1248
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:16,119
I mean TikTok is just like the You're right, it's

1249
01:22:16,239 --> 01:22:23,000
the perfect venue for micro cults. Nathan Slippy, we need

1250
01:22:23,119 --> 01:22:28,239
Pope Randy Balls. That's a good idea. Publius. Have you

1251
01:22:28,319 --> 01:22:31,520
seen the Palmeron Catholic Church? I have known about it

1252
01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:33,359
for many many years, all the way back two thousand

1253
01:22:33,359 --> 01:22:36,560
and seven. I think John Zimmer fifteen dollars. Here's to

1254
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:41,680
show good faith that so called elites that is us

1255
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:47,399
quote people's class a ninety nine percent reduction in p

1256
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:50,920
from y'all and then we'll go from there. I don't

1257
01:22:51,079 --> 01:22:53,600
don't know what that means, but thank you. John Kevin

1258
01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:58,159
two dollars. What's a war Thunderer's ten dollars? The Mahdi

1259
01:22:58,279 --> 01:23:02,359
claimant is funded by London. Oh. Interesting, he promotes skittles,

1260
01:23:02,399 --> 01:23:05,159
gnosticism es so terrorism. Oh I'm not surprised about that.

1261
01:23:05,399 --> 01:23:10,720
But war Thunderer, can you demonstrate or show me where

1262
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:15,039
or how he You know that he's funded by London.

1263
01:23:15,119 --> 01:23:17,560
I don't doubt you. I just always like to see

1264
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:23,640
and would like to document it. Jordan Deardorf, Jay, we

1265
01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:26,359
need a Jay and Candice show or a Jay and

1266
01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:30,199
Ian Carroll show. Petition them with me. Well, like I

1267
01:23:30,319 --> 01:23:32,079
told you, guys, any show that you want me on,

1268
01:23:33,079 --> 01:23:36,079
if you go mention it, then it starts to stick

1269
01:23:36,079 --> 01:23:38,680
in their heads. And I think that to remind you guys,

1270
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:44,079
we have multiple big interviews and big podcasts coming up

1271
01:23:44,199 --> 01:23:45,720
in the next month. This is going to be a

1272
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:48,199
huge month, possibly our biggest month.

1273
01:23:49,399 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 8: We have.

1274
01:23:54,159 --> 01:24:02,640
Speaker 1: Ruslan, We have Pierre's Morgan, Peers Morgan Monday, I forgot

1275
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:05,039
let me rephrase that. I'm trying to think of it

1276
01:24:05,119 --> 01:24:09,079
in order. Monday, Piers Morgan. This is supposed to happen.

1277
01:24:09,119 --> 01:24:14,720
Cross your fingers right, Monday, Piers Morgan panel. So we'll

1278
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:16,720
see how that. I don't know who's on the panel.

1279
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:19,760
It's gonna be interesting, and uh, you know, I gotta

1280
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:24,760
I gotta play it cool and uh do it just right,

1281
01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:27,960
you know what I mean? Because I gotta be sassy,

1282
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:39,359
but I gotta also uh be cool, because number one,

1283
01:24:40,159 --> 01:24:44,199
we don't want to anger peers, but we also want

1284
01:24:44,239 --> 01:24:49,239
to have the right degree of sass to make the

1285
01:24:49,399 --> 01:24:55,439
panel discussion clickable, you understand. So we got to see

1286
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:57,319
how that's. I gotta play it right, y'all pray for

1287
01:24:57,439 --> 01:25:00,680
me to play it right. I gotta I gotta sail

1288
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:07,880
between Scylla and Charybdis on Peers. Okay, Then we got Ruslan.

1289
01:25:09,199 --> 01:25:12,439
I don't know how Ruslan wants to set it up.

1290
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:14,840
I don't know if it's gonna be me and him

1291
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:19,000
just chatting. He might throw a curveball and bring somebody

1292
01:25:19,119 --> 01:25:21,399
in you know what I mean, I don't know what

1293
01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:23,039
to say. I might show up and like what have

1294
01:25:23,159 --> 01:25:25,319
like that Gavin Ortland shows up. I don't think that

1295
01:25:25,359 --> 01:25:28,840
will happen because I don't think. I think Gavin Ortland

1296
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:30,720
is like I would never enterte. I think he's one

1297
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:32,000
of those. I don't want anything to do with that

1298
01:25:32,239 --> 01:25:34,640
dire person. He's so evil, right, I think he's I

1299
01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:37,359
think he's one of those. I'm not sure, but I

1300
01:25:37,399 --> 01:25:40,279
wouldn't be surprised if I walk in there and we

1301
01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:45,640
got like a you know, a curveball. But even if so,

1302
01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:49,039
I'm not worried about it. I'm happy to pop on there,

1303
01:25:49,399 --> 01:25:56,239
and you know, if Gavin Ortland's there, that's fine. And

1304
01:25:56,359 --> 01:25:58,680
it may just me be me, be me and uh

1305
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:01,640
ruse one talking about who knows what?

1306
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:03,600
Speaker 3: Uh.

1307
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:14,199
Speaker 1: Then we got Tripoli, we may have Jamie Kennedy podcasts again.

1308
01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:20,960
Then we got whatever podcast me and Jim Bob debating

1309
01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:26,840
not so aerudite, and then the Chicks or whatever okay.

1310
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:41,680
Then we got Hodge okay. Then we got Me versus

1311
01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:48,079
apostate Prophet. I'm gonna debate ridvon I'm debating Rid Vaughn

1312
01:26:48,239 --> 01:26:56,560
on Western intelligence funding for isn il Q. Ok. Okay,

1313
01:26:57,479 --> 01:27:06,800
then we got the timcast debate. Okay, me versus Tim

1314
01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:15,079
Gordon versus lore Lodge, the Freemason, Methodist Protestant, I kid

1315
01:27:15,119 --> 01:27:20,479
you not. Okay, we got a huge This is the

1316
01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:26,840
next six weeks is going to be just jam packed. Bro.

1317
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:35,920
But guys, keep in mind Ap is also debating Andrew

1318
01:27:36,199 --> 01:27:38,720
in a few days. Actually, let's see when that is.

1319
01:27:39,039 --> 01:27:42,560
For those that don't know, everybody is asking me, are

1320
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:45,119
you debating ap on Zionism? No, No, that's him and

1321
01:27:45,199 --> 01:27:50,840
Andrew's debate. I'm debating him on specifically the question of

1322
01:27:54,920 --> 01:28:02,880
Western intelligence funding for and al Kainda. Now, I'm gonna

1323
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:06,920
be honest with you. I know that very well. I

1324
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:09,880
have all the books. Somebody said, oh you got to

1325
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:12,880
get by the way, whoever recommended to the Max Blumenthal book.

1326
01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:15,399
I appreciate it. I actually got it. I'm several chapters

1327
01:28:15,439 --> 01:28:18,239
into it. It is really good and it does have

1328
01:28:18,319 --> 01:28:20,680
a lot of details that the other books in that

1329
01:28:21,159 --> 01:28:25,960
domain that I've read, Mark Curtis's book, Dreyfus's book, Golden

1330
01:28:26,039 --> 01:28:31,279
fitzger Old's book. This is just more ammo, more stuff

1331
01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:36,279
that's going to be great. So I'm really happy that

1332
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:42,760
somebody actually finally was willing to debate a geopolitical, you know,

1333
01:28:43,439 --> 01:28:46,359
CIA type of topic. It's like, good grief, dude. I've

1334
01:28:46,359 --> 01:28:50,880
been wanting to debate that for years, and I've been

1335
01:28:50,920 --> 01:28:55,840
debating you know, goober Muslims for damn seven years, and

1336
01:28:56,279 --> 01:28:59,800
I'm just thankful. I'm happy finally somebody's going to debate

1337
01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:04,920
me something other than this you know, freaking Islamic dilemma

1338
01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:07,119
and all this just guber nonsense.

1339
01:29:07,199 --> 01:29:07,359
Speaker 13: Man.

1340
01:29:08,279 --> 01:29:11,119
Speaker 1: I'm so tired of the atheist debates. I'm so tired

1341
01:29:11,159 --> 01:29:15,159
of Muslim debates like I now still do it, but

1342
01:29:15,279 --> 01:29:18,680
it gets old, dude. Imagine debating. I've been debating in

1343
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:23,960
the atheist positions since two thousand, so I got into

1344
01:29:24,039 --> 01:29:26,840
tag into a pre suth in two thousand, ninety nine,

1345
01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:30,560
two thousand. It was like twenty five years of atheist debates, dude,

1346
01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:37,520
and I've never heard an atheist debate or argument any

1347
01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:42,760
different than what I heard twenty five years ago. Right now,

1348
01:29:45,279 --> 01:29:50,680
let's see, I know he put up by the way,

1349
01:29:50,720 --> 01:29:54,119
the Crucible will also put up this saying of where

1350
01:29:54,199 --> 01:29:56,239
they had their melt down on the Crucible. I don't

1351
01:29:56,239 --> 01:29:58,039
know if you guys saw this, but that actually does

1352
01:29:58,119 --> 01:30:05,319
act scam shamou and leather Daddy Alibright had a meltdown

1353
01:30:05,399 --> 01:30:08,319
on the Crucible which was pretty amusing. So you can

1354
01:30:08,439 --> 01:30:11,880
check that meltdown out right here if you want to

1355
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:27,359
go watch that. Every time I want to put a

1356
01:30:27,439 --> 01:30:30,279
link is precisely when the stupid thing freezes up. So

1357
01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:37,960
there we go. Here's their meltdown when Andrew made fun

1358
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:42,199
of them. But let's see, I know they had a

1359
01:30:42,279 --> 01:30:43,920
page up for here we go here it does right here.

1360
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:54,840
So the debate is two days from now, and that's

1361
01:30:54,880 --> 01:30:59,000
going to be a big one. I think they're doing

1362
01:30:59,039 --> 01:31:02,560
it at a university, aren't they University of North Carolina.

1363
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:11,279
So there's the link for that debate right there. Now.

1364
01:31:11,359 --> 01:31:17,720
Somebody said, did you prep Andrew? I'm not directly prepping Andrew.

1365
01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:19,800
I talked to Andrew a little bit about it because

1366
01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:24,399
I pointed out, like what AP's position is going to

1367
01:31:24,479 --> 01:31:30,000
be in terms of modern geopolitical nation state of Israel.

1368
01:31:31,079 --> 01:31:34,560
I don't know exactly how far they're going to go

1369
01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:40,760
into theology. So your question, Jordaine says, have you prepped

1370
01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:44,960
Andrew for that debate? Scripturally? AP works with David Wood,

1371
01:31:45,359 --> 01:31:50,560
and that will put him at a disadvantage. It's uh,

1372
01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:54,199
I think Posh is doing more of the prepping in

1373
01:31:54,279 --> 01:31:58,399
this regard. But I have talked some to Posh, but

1374
01:31:58,520 --> 01:32:12,399
I don't really know what. I don't know what how much?

1375
01:32:12,479 --> 01:32:15,119
What am I trying to say here? I don't see

1376
01:32:15,199 --> 01:32:20,119
what even David Wood could bring to the table. Uh

1377
01:32:20,279 --> 01:32:26,119
that would in any way defend biblically Zionism. I mean,

1378
01:32:26,159 --> 01:32:33,920
it's just kind of silly, honestly, Ian Scott five dollars?

1379
01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:38,359
What is going on with that oh three O G

1380
01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:42,239
guy on Instagram? He's trying to constantly call you out?

1381
01:32:42,239 --> 01:32:43,960
Who's I don't even know who that is? O three

1382
01:32:44,079 --> 01:32:47,239
O G on Instagram?

1383
01:32:48,279 --> 01:32:48,920
Speaker 7: What what is that?

1384
01:32:50,119 --> 01:32:58,960
Speaker 1: O three O G? Oh three zero three? And then

1385
01:32:59,439 --> 01:33:13,399
an O see zero lessons? Are you talking about this?

1386
01:33:15,159 --> 01:33:17,560
So some dude with two thousand followers? Is that what

1387
01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:21,720
you're talking about? Calling me out? I don't even see

1388
01:33:21,720 --> 01:33:32,279
anything about me on here. This dude's talking about the

1389
01:33:32,439 --> 01:33:36,479
zero report with like a couple dozen followers. I have

1390
01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:38,720
no idea what this even is, man. Is that what

1391
01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:42,640
you're talking about? Guys? There's nothing more annoying. I'm not

1392
01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:44,359
trying to be mean to the super chatter. But it's

1393
01:33:44,439 --> 01:33:48,840
like when you guys ask me about like Rando people,

1394
01:33:49,199 --> 01:33:51,399
did you know that the guy with five hundred followers

1395
01:33:51,439 --> 01:33:54,319
shows that you're dumb? Like, there's no need to inform

1396
01:33:54,399 --> 01:33:57,159
me of this. I do not care. It's literally just

1397
01:33:57,239 --> 01:34:01,880
a giant distraction to what I'm usually involved in when

1398
01:34:01,920 --> 01:34:06,239
people feel the need to message me about Rando's talking

1399
01:34:06,640 --> 01:34:11,279
crap on whatever, Like, it's totally not worth anyone's time.

1400
01:34:12,720 --> 01:34:15,359
So if you want to comment in the chat Ian

1401
01:34:15,479 --> 01:34:19,880
Scott as to who this is, this guy doesn't even

1402
01:34:20,079 --> 01:34:21,640
follow me. I don't even know who he is or

1403
01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:25,560
what this is. What does he even call me out about?

1404
01:34:26,840 --> 01:34:30,079
Usually when people like try to call me out on Instagram,

1405
01:34:31,279 --> 01:34:37,399
not always, but usually they like they usually tag me.

1406
01:34:38,159 --> 01:34:41,279
But I've never seen or heard of this dude, So like,

1407
01:34:43,119 --> 01:34:46,000
did you hear what Rando dude on Twitter said about you?

1408
01:34:46,720 --> 01:34:54,159
He said you're dumb? Oh my gosh. Like my view

1409
01:34:54,319 --> 01:34:56,359
is like we always open it up. If people have

1410
01:34:56,439 --> 01:35:00,159
an actual disagreement that they want to address, they can

1411
01:35:00,239 --> 01:35:06,399
come call in. And we've done open call ins now

1412
01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:11,920
for seven years on Twitter, six years, six seven years.

1413
01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:17,239
So like if they don't call in.

1414
01:35:17,359 --> 01:35:17,640
Speaker 7: I don't.

1415
01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:23,560
Speaker 1: I don't care. Let's see what we got I gotta make.

1416
01:35:23,560 --> 01:35:27,000
I always forget. There's two different circuits super chat outlets here.

1417
01:35:27,439 --> 01:35:29,279
Vlad as mad ten dollars. Have you tried to reach

1418
01:35:29,319 --> 01:35:31,079
out to need got Yes, he will not debate. So

1419
01:35:31,119 --> 01:35:34,399
again all the guys that need good dot net says

1420
01:35:34,439 --> 01:35:36,840
he doesn't do debates, Well, give it three dollars. This

1421
01:35:36,880 --> 01:35:40,319
is amazing. I'm happy to see you getting out there

1422
01:35:40,359 --> 01:35:44,079
on mainstream outlets. You deserve it. It's frustrating to watch

1423
01:35:44,119 --> 01:35:45,880
people that don't know half of what you do make

1424
01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:55,119
the realms. Did you see the West Huff Peers interview.

1425
01:35:55,159 --> 01:36:04,319
I did not know Rich beyond measure twenty five dollars.

1426
01:36:04,399 --> 01:36:07,199
I've come to the full pork covenant. The bacon is

1427
01:36:07,319 --> 01:36:11,520
now solid. The bacon is now solid. Yes, just chant

1428
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:16,039
that and your enemies will pass away. That's what we've

1429
01:36:16,119 --> 01:36:19,279
learned today. If we've learned anything in today's stream, it

1430
01:36:19,399 --> 01:36:23,560
is that if you faithfully chant the bacon is now solid,

1431
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:29,399
your enemies will perish, and you will hear the lamentation

1432
01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:34,680
of their women, to hear the lamentation of the women

1433
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:38,000
to steal what enemies five before you to hear the

1434
01:36:38,079 --> 01:36:47,199
lamentation of the women. Ap is talking about same Guru?

1435
01:36:47,359 --> 01:36:50,399
What do you guys? I don't know what your weird

1436
01:36:50,520 --> 01:36:54,800
speak is. Did you hear about z K two four

1437
01:36:54,960 --> 01:36:59,800
nine three he talked about you? Ap is talking about

1438
01:37:00,279 --> 01:37:03,880
guru sod Guru? What is same Guru? I have no

1439
01:37:04,039 --> 01:37:05,680
idea what any of you were talking about. I feel

1440
01:37:05,680 --> 01:37:07,880
like you guys are all just trolling me today with

1441
01:37:08,039 --> 01:37:14,840
like rando, like did you hear about comment kumor sixty

1442
01:37:14,960 --> 01:37:17,960
nine on Reddit? He posted a thread saying that you're

1443
01:37:18,000 --> 01:37:22,720
a dummy. What is your response to comment kumer sixty

1444
01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:27,119
nine on Reddit? All right, let's get back to.

1445
01:37:29,640 --> 01:37:32,960
Speaker 14: Sorry on over And So I don't have any religious impulses.

1446
01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:34,720
I don't feel the need to pray to a god

1447
01:37:34,880 --> 01:37:37,319
when things are going wrong. I don't feel the need

1448
01:37:37,479 --> 01:37:41,560
to be part of a spiritual congregation or something like this.

1449
01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:45,359
And so there's a part of me that feels I'm

1450
01:37:45,439 --> 01:37:48,479
kind of I have a disability in some way. Right

1451
01:37:48,760 --> 01:37:55,079
like people raised in modernity in atheistic societies, I just

1452
01:37:56,520 --> 01:37:58,760
they don't want they don't get to church because they

1453
01:37:58,840 --> 01:38:02,119
just don't want to, right, Most people like that.

1454
01:38:02,640 --> 01:38:06,560
Speaker 1: No comment comic coomer like a comment like like a

1455
01:38:06,680 --> 01:38:10,760
comment shooting off into like spugging off into the coming

1456
01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:14,079
into the oblivion contemporary competing on five dollars. It will

1457
01:38:14,119 --> 01:38:17,760
be interesting to watch ap and his views on Israel

1458
01:38:18,720 --> 01:38:21,960
if they evolve regarding Zionism now that he's Orthodox.

1459
01:38:23,159 --> 01:38:23,279
Speaker 8: Uh.

1460
01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:28,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know who knows O three underscore

1461
01:38:29,039 --> 01:38:39,399
OG Oh my gosh, zero three underscore og on Instagram?

1462
01:38:41,039 --> 01:38:56,720
Oggie shall he be at Matisia? I don't see any

1463
01:38:56,840 --> 01:38:59,560
profile called zero three underscore OG?

1464
01:38:59,800 --> 01:38:59,840
Speaker 2: Do?

1465
01:39:09,720 --> 01:39:12,840
Speaker 1: I mean the only thing I see is zero lessons

1466
01:39:12,960 --> 01:39:15,920
O three O G. There's nothing that's O three underscore

1467
01:39:15,960 --> 01:39:19,159
OG unless you are getting it wrong and it's like

1468
01:39:19,279 --> 01:39:23,239
a it's not a zero, it's an O like like

1469
01:39:23,560 --> 01:39:35,520
oh three and then underscore zero G. But why, I

1470
01:39:35,880 --> 01:39:38,239
just like, like what why do people feel the need

1471
01:39:38,359 --> 01:39:45,359
to even like like tell you who on the internet

1472
01:39:45,520 --> 01:39:47,640
is saying something about you. It's just weird to me

1473
01:39:47,760 --> 01:40:01,880
that here's O three O G underscore. But that's a sportsman.

1474
01:40:02,319 --> 01:40:06,079
So again, dude, if it's not somebody with like a

1475
01:40:06,159 --> 01:40:14,880
million followers or like, I don't even care, so tain't

1476
01:40:14,920 --> 01:40:17,560
nothing ten dollars have you done any research into the

1477
01:40:17,600 --> 01:40:25,520
domestic Muslim organizations like Care and Yeah I have. It

1478
01:40:25,720 --> 01:40:29,640
comes up in the Robert Dreyfus's book that we covered

1479
01:40:29,680 --> 01:40:36,039
ten years ago. Ian Scott, you don't have to keep

1480
01:40:36,079 --> 01:40:39,039
sending me super chats. I mean, just tell me what

1481
01:40:39,239 --> 01:40:41,399
the guy is saying and give me the actual Can

1482
01:40:41,439 --> 01:40:46,960
you not link the profile? He has two million followers?

1483
01:40:47,439 --> 01:40:49,960
Come on, you guys are joking with me, right? Why

1484
01:40:50,079 --> 01:40:51,640
is it not coming up for me? I don't understand

1485
01:40:51,640 --> 01:40:55,880
what you're typing. This is like a Z like zero

1486
01:40:56,119 --> 01:41:01,920
three and then and then oh with like an oh

1487
01:41:02,960 --> 01:41:08,680
gee like nothing comes up under that. So I have

1488
01:41:08,760 --> 01:41:10,279
no idea what you guys are even talking. Are you

1489
01:41:10,279 --> 01:41:12,319
guys just trying to waste my time with this stupid shit?

1490
01:41:15,680 --> 01:41:18,640
He has twenty seven thousand followers. Okay, what is he?

1491
01:41:18,720 --> 01:41:22,239
I don't like what or who is he? Just link

1492
01:41:22,319 --> 01:41:28,520
me the damn thing. O four understore KR has challenged you,

1493
01:41:28,560 --> 01:41:29,600
why are you running from him?

1494
01:41:29,680 --> 01:41:29,800
Speaker 8: Right?

1495
01:41:31,359 --> 01:41:34,000
Speaker 1: The bacon is now solid. The bacon is now solid,

1496
01:41:34,520 --> 01:41:41,479
Brandy Chandler ten dollars. Ian Scott is trolling the whole time,

1497
01:41:41,520 --> 01:41:45,560
Brandy Shandler. If you can or should debate orthodox, here

1498
01:41:45,600 --> 01:41:48,039
we go Orthodox Muslim. I can see guys telling me

1499
01:41:48,079 --> 01:41:50,600
to debate these people every day, Like all they have

1500
01:41:50,720 --> 01:41:53,359
to do is call in to me. I'm not going

1501
01:41:53,439 --> 01:41:57,439
to chase down every freaking Muslim. His argument is that

1502
01:41:57,680 --> 01:42:01,279
the one God unbegotten, if he is Jesus, isn't God,

1503
01:42:01,439 --> 01:42:02,279
It's called the Father.

1504
01:42:02,439 --> 01:42:02,920
Speaker 7: I don't.

1505
01:42:04,840 --> 01:42:17,039
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Ian, would do you want to give

1506
01:42:17,119 --> 01:42:19,039
him the link and I'll create a Twitter space and

1507
01:42:19,119 --> 01:42:20,960
he can call in a debate right now. I don't care.

1508
01:42:21,640 --> 01:42:24,439
Dallas Brown twenty dollars? Jay, have you covered the connection

1509
01:42:24,560 --> 01:42:30,039
between Yed Fellas. I don't know what that is Yed Fellas?

1510
01:42:30,159 --> 01:42:33,439
What is that Yed Fellas in the state of Israel.

1511
01:42:34,399 --> 01:42:41,760
I don't know what Yed Fellas is. Now, if you

1512
01:42:41,840 --> 01:42:45,199
do not find and track down and debate this random

1513
01:42:45,279 --> 01:42:50,319
profile you are running, you are scared. Let the bacon

1514
01:42:50,439 --> 01:42:54,079
hit the floor. Let the bacon hit the floor. Ian,

1515
01:42:54,199 --> 01:42:56,600
I need the actual link or more information, like there's

1516
01:42:56,640 --> 01:43:00,039
nothing comes up with three og. I don't understand what

1517
01:43:00,239 --> 01:43:02,560
is he calling me out about, Like, give me this

1518
01:43:02,680 --> 01:43:05,720
specific so that I can figure is he Muslim? Is

1519
01:43:05,800 --> 01:43:09,479
he a Protestant? What is he? Let's get him on,

1520
01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:12,079
Let's get a debate going dude or too d You

1521
01:43:12,199 --> 01:43:13,439
just called you out when you're going to debate.

1522
01:43:13,520 --> 01:43:17,319
Speaker 14: C three poll, eighty nine per cent of peoples another

1523
01:43:17,800 --> 01:43:20,279
don't go to church, and it's just because they just

1524
01:43:20,319 --> 01:43:23,159
don't want to feel there's no impulse to do so,

1525
01:43:24,119 --> 01:43:26,640
because to them, the universe isn't actually mysterious and there

1526
01:43:26,720 --> 01:43:31,960
isn't an after life worth worrying about. And so we're

1527
01:43:32,039 --> 01:43:34,800
stuck in this position where we're a bunch of materialist

1528
01:43:34,880 --> 01:43:38,399
consumers just existing on a rock in space for no

1529
01:43:38,520 --> 01:43:39,439
reason until we done.

1530
01:43:39,479 --> 01:43:40,640
Speaker 1: And you say that's bad.

1531
01:43:41,079 --> 01:43:45,680
Speaker 14: Yeah, I don't think that's great. I think that's I

1532
01:43:45,720 --> 01:43:51,720
think it's pretty pretty sour. And the atheists who came

1533
01:43:51,760 --> 01:43:55,520
before us viewed themselves as being very clever. There's a

1534
01:43:55,600 --> 01:44:01,600
huge amount of vanity and atheism the but particularly vanity

1535
01:44:01,960 --> 01:44:05,399
sort of Bertrand russells up to the crystal hitchins of

1536
01:44:06,600 --> 01:44:09,720
I'm smarter than you. That's why I'm an atheist. It's like, okay,

1537
01:44:09,760 --> 01:44:11,920
but look at the world you're making. And the world

1538
01:44:11,960 --> 01:44:15,720
you're making is actually one where everyone takes antidepressants. People

1539
01:44:15,840 --> 01:44:17,920
kind of hate the place in which they live, and everything,

1540
01:44:18,000 --> 01:44:21,439
the material quality of everything is declining like things aren't

1541
01:44:21,439 --> 01:44:24,840
getting better. The more atheist we get, things are getting worse.

1542
01:44:25,039 --> 01:44:27,039
When was the last time we built something impressive like

1543
01:44:27,079 --> 01:44:29,880
a cathedral? Could we have some nice buildings? We know,

1544
01:44:30,439 --> 01:44:37,079
we get the cheapest, like grave faced flat tenements that

1545
01:44:37,239 --> 01:44:39,439
people get to pack into now, because if we're just

1546
01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:44,319
human cattle, then any transcendent aspect of human life is

1547
01:44:44,439 --> 01:44:48,279
just it's a fancy at best, right, it's not important.

1548
01:44:49,279 --> 01:44:53,479
And so this has not been to the benefit of mankind,

1549
01:44:53,560 --> 01:44:56,119
I think, And yet I don't know if there's a

1550
01:44:56,199 --> 01:45:02,880
way to stop it. Do you feel do you just like, no,

1551
01:45:03,319 --> 01:45:06,079
it's a pretty pretty bleak yeah outlook on.

1552
01:45:06,439 --> 01:45:06,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1553
01:45:10,720 --> 01:45:14,800
Speaker 1: So somebody's I'm trying to get Redeem Zoomer now to

1554
01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:18,880
come argue, because so Luigi said, I've been watching dire

1555
01:45:19,159 --> 01:45:24,520
challenge Roman Catholic apologists for post Vatican two pre Vatican

1556
01:45:24,560 --> 01:45:27,760
two teaching. No one has agreed, will anyone step up?

1557
01:45:29,680 --> 01:45:33,239
And then Redeemed Zoomer sends a guy who looks like

1558
01:45:33,319 --> 01:45:36,359
he's about fifteen. It's like, you need to debate this guy.

1559
01:45:41,119 --> 01:45:44,640
Oh wait a minute, excuse me, I misread it. Redeemed

1560
01:45:44,680 --> 01:46:03,319
Dumer is saying the position is indefensible. I thought maybe

1561
01:46:03,359 --> 01:46:09,279
Redeemed Zoomer was gonna So there's a Roman calic dude

1562
01:46:09,279 --> 01:46:12,000
that's talking smack. I'm trying to find out which guy

1563
01:46:12,000 --> 01:46:16,000
it is. Anyway, that's some kid that's so stupid. That's

1564
01:46:16,000 --> 01:46:17,920
not gonna happen. Some fifteen year old dho's not going

1565
01:46:17,960 --> 01:46:21,760
to be able to fit in Roman Catholicism. I was

1566
01:46:21,800 --> 01:46:25,960
referring to certain organized crime, and yeah, I know about

1567
01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:27,880
all that stuff. I've known about this stuff, guys. I've

1568
01:46:27,880 --> 01:46:30,319
known about that stuff since two thousand and seven or eight. Now,

1569
01:46:30,359 --> 01:46:34,720
I don't know what you mean by yeed, but I

1570
01:46:34,800 --> 01:46:39,479
am aware of how certain Middle Eastern countries are actually

1571
01:46:40,399 --> 01:46:45,720
safe havens for organized crime. Alex Soto five dollars, Hey, Jay,

1572
01:46:45,720 --> 01:46:47,479
what's up man? I got to meet you in Tallahassee

1573
01:46:47,560 --> 01:46:50,279
at your live event. Appreciate all your work. Thank you man. Yeah,

1574
01:46:50,319 --> 01:46:52,720
we had a lot of fun at the Tallahassee event.

1575
01:46:53,199 --> 01:46:55,039
Shout out to all the guys that came out and

1576
01:46:55,680 --> 01:46:57,680
the two ladies. I think we had two ladies present.

1577
01:46:59,680 --> 01:47:04,159
Would if you open the debate, Alex O'Connor, Guys, I've

1578
01:47:04,239 --> 01:47:06,640
tried forever to debate these people. Of course, I'm open

1579
01:47:06,680 --> 01:47:10,279
to debate ox O'Connor. You're not gonna get Alex O'Connor

1580
01:47:10,319 --> 01:47:12,520
to debate me, that's the thing. Unless you just keep

1581
01:47:12,560 --> 01:47:15,880
harassing him endlessly. I don't know, would you. I would

1582
01:47:16,039 --> 01:47:18,239
be interested to see you react to his video with

1583
01:47:18,600 --> 01:47:21,640
Rhett and the guy from reht and link wildlife Christianity.

1584
01:47:22,119 --> 01:47:24,840
We must bring him to the truth. I'll take a

1585
01:47:24,880 --> 01:47:31,960
look at it. The greatest mathematician Jeff Goldblum from Jurassic

1586
01:47:32,039 --> 01:47:37,520
Park asked the ethical questions regarding science exactly. Even Jeff

1587
01:47:37,600 --> 01:47:42,840
Goldbloom science man is more proficient in science than these dudes.

1588
01:47:42,880 --> 01:47:55,359
That's pretty funny, Nate Planica five dollars. I wanted to

1589
01:47:55,720 --> 01:47:58,000
thank you for helping me come to orthodoxy. You're worth

1590
01:47:58,119 --> 01:48:02,159
is very informative, it's hilarious. You're uniquely encouraging those for

1591
01:48:02,239 --> 01:48:04,840
those who seek truth. I pray that God blesses you

1592
01:48:04,960 --> 01:48:08,880
and your family as you bless all of us lay peeps. Well,

1593
01:48:08,920 --> 01:48:12,960
thank you, man. Appreciate that I'm just a crazy internet

1594
01:48:13,520 --> 01:48:16,760
joke man, That's all I am. I caught him att.

1595
01:48:18,560 --> 01:48:22,279
I wish that the Mahdi guy's name was actually Yakub. Also,

1596
01:48:22,359 --> 01:48:25,439
I'm watching all this from my car and it shows

1597
01:48:25,520 --> 01:48:28,920
this on my screen as track number six out of

1598
01:48:29,000 --> 01:48:34,119
sixty six, then you should immediately become a numerology schiitzo

1599
01:48:34,800 --> 01:48:39,560
and lose your mind. That's confirmation proof that the orbs

1600
01:48:39,640 --> 01:48:43,840
have told you what's really going on. Vegan skills two dollars,

1601
01:48:43,920 --> 01:48:46,000
gay British once once and needs a chill by the

1602
01:48:46,039 --> 01:48:49,359
way to Ian Scott, tell the guy to come debate.

1603
01:48:49,479 --> 01:48:54,640
How's that if? What was his name? O? Three og?

1604
01:48:54,840 --> 01:48:56,920
If O three og would like to come on a

1605
01:48:57,000 --> 01:49:02,079
stream right now or later on Twitter space, we can

1606
01:49:02,159 --> 01:49:04,560
have a debate. How's that? Would he like?

1607
01:49:04,680 --> 01:49:04,720
Speaker 3: That?

1608
01:49:04,920 --> 01:49:05,520
Speaker 1: Is that was he?

1609
01:49:05,720 --> 01:49:05,760
Speaker 8: Is?

1610
01:49:05,800 --> 01:49:09,159
Speaker 1: He wanting the attention so bad that he wants an

1611
01:49:09,199 --> 01:49:12,119
impromptu debate that I'm running from a guy I've never

1612
01:49:12,159 --> 01:49:16,279
even heard of. Let's do it, but I want to

1613
01:49:16,359 --> 01:49:18,199
know what I'm running from. I don't even understand what

1614
01:49:18,279 --> 01:49:23,960
this guy's position is. David the Channel Unheard posted a

1615
01:49:24,039 --> 01:49:30,079
debate with philosopher Reynard Chemick. Have you heard it now? Guys?

1616
01:49:30,159 --> 01:49:35,199
I don't keep up with or see like random. I

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just don't know. Man, No, I've never seen that person.

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Three seven three seven three dollars The Antichrist is here.

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He's replacing Jesus. He's wanting to offer early salvation and

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mimicking Theosis through Ai. The false prophet is also here.

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The seven year tribulation started. I think that's very presumptuous

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01:49:57,720 --> 01:50:00,960
to think that you know those things. But thank you

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for your super chat. Brendon Turner. Five dollars. I attended Vespers.

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01:50:09,760 --> 01:50:12,840
I met another guy at church through online apologetics. I

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01:50:12,920 --> 01:50:15,239
found it mostly through you. He came through Andrew. This

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01:50:15,359 --> 01:50:19,920
is a win for the guys. keV Dog five dollars.

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Get these clowns the truth to their faces. Give these

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01:50:24,279 --> 01:50:27,960
clowns the truth of their faces. Christ is King person

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01:50:28,079 --> 01:50:30,439
seven through seven. The Antichrist is clear. So you sent

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01:50:30,560 --> 01:50:37,920
that twice. L RJ. Atlanta ten dollars. Would schismatic, true

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01:50:37,960 --> 01:50:43,319
and genuine Orthodox be considered new divine revelation? I don't

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01:50:43,359 --> 01:50:48,039
know about that. I've noticed the themes in their innumerable

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01:50:48,119 --> 01:50:52,199
online videos. I think I don't keep up. I have

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01:50:52,279 --> 01:50:55,760
no idea what they're saying, but it could easily lend

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01:50:55,880 --> 01:50:59,840
to a cult, not occult, but a cult out of

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01:51:00,079 --> 01:51:04,439
tude and mentality. Many of the people in those circles

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01:51:04,479 --> 01:51:06,880
and groups are have mental problems. And I'm not saying

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it in a mean way. I'm saying that they actually

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have mental problems. Vegan Skill three dollars gay British. Ron

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01:51:11,840 --> 01:51:12,960
Swanson needs to chill.

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01:51:16,159 --> 01:51:18,960
Speaker 12: You know, I feel as though science over because I

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01:51:19,000 --> 01:51:21,439
was exactly the same. I used to love watching Dawkins.

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01:51:21,520 --> 01:51:26,199
I loved watching Hitchens as well, and even you know

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01:51:26,319 --> 01:51:30,760
today with Alex O'Connor, and you know, people like that debating.

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01:51:31,079 --> 01:51:35,479
Although Alex O'Connor has become an agnostic through his consistent

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I would call it searching personally, do you feel like

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01:51:40,239 --> 01:51:40,880
you're searching?

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01:51:41,920 --> 01:51:41,960
Speaker 3: No?

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01:51:42,039 --> 01:51:50,079
Speaker 14: No, I don't feel like I'm missing something. Well, yeah,

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the problem is if you're approach in the consequentialous manner,

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not only do you kind of miss the purpose of religion.

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God's meant to be the font from which i've thing springs.

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So God is a fundamentally deontological concept that precedes all things.

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So trying to reconstruct God from the consequences, well, it

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01:52:10,800 --> 01:52:13,359
is to suggest that he's actually not the well spring

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01:52:13,439 --> 01:52:16,720
from which everything comes anyway, So the actual attempt itself

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01:52:17,119 --> 01:52:20,600
is self defeating. So you just can't do it. So

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if the consequences are bad, and God is the wellspring

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01:52:25,840 --> 01:52:28,039
from which everything comes. You would have to conclude that

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01:52:28,079 --> 01:52:30,359
God made it this way purpose to challenge us, to

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01:52:30,439 --> 01:52:32,720
test us. And this was the thesis that people throughout

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01:52:32,720 --> 01:52:34,560
the Middle Ages had because life in the Middle Ages

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was really tough, really tough. A lot of people really

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01:52:36,920 --> 01:52:40,000
really suffered, and the amount of human suffering seemed just

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01:52:40,239 --> 01:52:44,119
incomprehensible and couldn't understand why a love and God would

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01:52:44,119 --> 01:52:44,880
want Well.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what's wrong with suffering? If the universe is nothingness?

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01:52:49,680 --> 01:52:55,520
I mean, really doesn't matter, right, So Ignacio Laios two dollars,

1669
01:52:55,560 --> 01:53:02,039
there's an orb chilling buy your hair. There you go,

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01:53:02,239 --> 01:53:05,800
my profithood has been status has been proven. Christopher Scott

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01:53:05,920 --> 01:53:10,800
ten dollars. What's up dog? Thanks man, appreciate that. Welcome everybody.

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01:53:10,840 --> 01:53:14,600
We're having fun tonight. Somebody said that three og is

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01:53:14,680 --> 01:53:19,239
a rando conspiracy atheist. I doubt he will debate. Well,

1674
01:53:19,880 --> 01:53:23,880
those are sometimes the funnest people to debate. So go

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01:53:24,119 --> 01:53:27,680
tell this person whom I literally cannot find on Instagram.

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01:53:27,720 --> 01:53:30,399
It's actually bothering me that I can't find the freaking profile.

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01:53:30,560 --> 01:53:33,159
Can you send me the actual handle? Why could no

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01:53:33,279 --> 01:53:36,439
one send me the handle so I could actually find

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01:53:36,479 --> 01:53:40,239
the dude, because nothing comes up under that handle. Put

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01:53:40,319 --> 01:53:42,479
the actual link, dude, Give me the link to his

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01:53:42,600 --> 01:53:46,039
Instagram and I will go and invite him to debate tonight.

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01:53:49,079 --> 01:53:53,560
Just drug me nuts, dude. And who picks such a

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01:53:53,640 --> 01:53:55,800
stupid ass handle that you can't No one can find

1684
01:53:55,840 --> 01:53:58,479
the freaking handle. It's been thirty minutes trying to figure

1685
01:53:58,479 --> 01:54:05,119
out what his handle is. Okay, well, if Ian Scott

1686
01:54:05,319 --> 01:54:08,640
is trolling, I'll just ban and Scott because it's not

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01:54:08,720 --> 01:54:13,399
even a real profile. Okay, thank you, dude, said Instagram.

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01:54:14,279 --> 01:54:22,840
And now you're giving me his Twitter handle, so DC,

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01:54:25,560 --> 01:54:30,800
so some idiot I've already blocked. Who Okay, so this

1690
01:54:30,960 --> 01:54:33,760
is like an Adam Green follower. Oh my gosh, this

1691
01:54:33,960 --> 01:54:40,600
is so stupid. Well will you debate random pigan two two, three, three,

1692
01:54:40,800 --> 01:54:45,119
four five eight. I think I actually asked some of

1693
01:54:45,239 --> 01:54:49,000
these goobers already to come to debate, and they wouldn't

1694
01:54:49,039 --> 01:54:54,159
do it. So I don't see anything on this guy's

1695
01:54:54,199 --> 01:55:01,880
profile even remotely. It's just a bunch of like schizo

1696
01:55:02,000 --> 01:55:08,079
conspiracy stuff. This is what you guys are like wanting

1697
01:55:08,159 --> 01:55:16,760
me to go deal with. It's like this guy gets

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01:55:16,880 --> 01:55:21,840
one reply to his tweets. So yeah, this is a

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01:55:21,920 --> 01:55:24,920
real oppressing person with three hundred followers.

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01:55:26,119 --> 01:55:27,720
Speaker 7: With like no.

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01:55:32,039 --> 01:55:34,680
Speaker 1: So it's he's not even on Instagram, but you're saying

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01:55:34,760 --> 01:55:50,880
that maybe he's got a different profile on Instagram. Why

1703
01:55:50,920 --> 01:55:54,399
will you debate Adam Green Pagan follower number four four

1704
01:55:54,520 --> 01:55:57,000
three two five? Why are you scared? Why are you

1705
01:55:57,119 --> 01:56:01,920
scared to debate him? It's really weird too. It's like

1706
01:56:03,439 --> 01:56:07,119
even when I've done multiple Pagan debates and these guys

1707
01:56:07,159 --> 01:56:12,800
are actually two tiers below the Pagans I debated, Okay,

1708
01:56:12,840 --> 01:56:14,760
Ian Scott can come debate. I don't care Ian you

1709
01:56:14,800 --> 01:56:18,119
want to come debate. You're trying to link me up

1710
01:56:18,119 --> 01:56:24,920
debating all these idiot low tier Pagans. I mean, how

1711
01:56:25,000 --> 01:56:27,079
many times does the same debate have to happen? Like

1712
01:56:27,119 --> 01:56:32,359
if I've debated Bogglor Dave and I debated who is

1713
01:56:32,399 --> 01:56:38,760
the Apollo Sun worship guy? What was his name? Mark Brahman?

1714
01:56:38,840 --> 01:56:51,159
Remember Mark Brahman? Can no one just link the Instagram profile?

1715
01:56:51,319 --> 01:56:54,319
Like why can you not link the profile? I can

1716
01:56:54,640 --> 01:57:01,279
look at Instagram like anyone who just link it? Let

1717
01:57:01,359 --> 01:57:03,920
me see if I can try it that way. And

1718
01:57:04,039 --> 01:57:06,159
by the way, who actually thinks this guy is really

1719
01:57:06,199 --> 01:57:09,039
gonna come to debate anyway? Even if we do track

1720
01:57:09,159 --> 01:57:25,119
down his freaking instagram are water bye from here O

1721
01:57:25,319 --> 01:57:31,800
three O G. Nothing comes up but zero lessons. Uh,

1722
01:57:31,960 --> 01:57:37,359
this has gotta be the same guy. NASA exposed satellite

1723
01:57:37,439 --> 01:57:41,920
exposes the truth Earth's pole shift. Dude, You want me

1724
01:57:41,960 --> 01:57:44,359
to debate an Earth pole shift guy? I mean, are

1725
01:57:44,399 --> 01:57:48,640
you serious? Ian bro? This is dude, just don't even

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01:57:48,720 --> 01:57:50,840
be in this audience. Man, this is this ship is

1727
01:57:50,920 --> 01:57:55,600
too stupid for me to even deal with. Let's see

1728
01:57:55,640 --> 01:57:58,680
what he says about Saint Patrick. This gotta be the

1729
01:57:58,720 --> 01:58:02,960
same guy because he's got like schizo weather tracking posting lies.

1730
01:58:05,600 --> 01:58:16,199
Is it this guy? Tell me visit this guy and

1731
01:58:16,279 --> 01:58:20,000
see if he wants to come debate this guy