Speaker 1: Oh you think that you think that if I'm really
Jim Jones, I would have kool aid. You think I'm
not an authentic I'm not really vibing with JJ. Oh really? Oh,
I just want purple Soruce Recks on your ass. Baby,
I'm about to pass out with that purple Jim Jones says,
are up? With that purple Sorus Rex says, are up,
You'd be like Mike Jones, who Mike Jones. No, Jim Jones,
Jim Jones, who Jim Jones. Uh. Anyway, No, Cameron is
not the Antichrist. However, We're gonna play a little bit
of Camera's video because Cameron's video actually shows the aesthetics
of the background of this dude, which is the best
art because in the clips that are going viral on Twitter,
you can't even see the real background, which is the
best part. And as I commented, I would expect that
the real Antichrist, when he shows up, that he would
have a little better drip than this dude. He'd have
a little better than airbrush pictures of himself looking like
a looking like a seventies creeper van right with a
damn wizard and a skull and a Confederate flag on
the side of a van.
Speaker 2: All right, let's check this out and till Christ be
walking among us right now. So hit this. Okay, there's
this guy. He's born to an Egyptian father and an
American mother. He was raised in the States. He's now
living in England.
Speaker 3: But he claims that he's.
Speaker 1: Dude, got a He's got an airbrushed lightning picture behind
like he just stepped out of a damn dimensional ortal
and then he went to the carnival and got an
airbrush made. He's going to put that on the side
of his van.
Speaker 2: Dude is the true successor to both Jesus and Mohammad somehow, Yes,
you heard that correctly. He says that he's the rightful pope,
He's the new Mahdi, and Christians on exts are literally
calling him the Antichrist.
Speaker 1: Just listen now, he couldn't be much worse than Francis.
He might actually be a better pope than Francis. Oh.
Speaker 3: He describes himself I am Abdullah, the successor of mahdia Isadam,
the successor of the comforter Ahmed, the successor of Simon Peter,
the successor of Mohammad, the successor of Jesus Christ. I
am the true and legitimate Pope. I am the proof
upon the Christians. I am the son of the Muslims
through my father, and the son of the Christians and
the Jews through my mother. I am the son of
the East through my father, and the son of the
West through my mother.
Speaker 4: Pretty wild, right, I like the idea that you can
just kind of lay claim to an entire territory because
your parents come from that territory.
Speaker 1: So can't I be the son of the West too?
I mean, my parents are from the West, so does
that make me the king of the West. I mean,
it's kind a kind of a loose, kind of a
flimsy basis for this divine status. But let's see what
else he says.
Speaker 2: So in this video, we're going to figure out exactly
who this guy is. I'm going to show you guys,
his background unpacked, the crazy claims that he's making, and
at the end, I'm going to tell you whether or
not the Christians on X might actually be onto something
with the whole anti christ thing. So trust me, this
one is going to be an absolute wild ride real quick.
If you're new hero, he was born in nineteen eighty three.
Abdullah comes from an interesting cultural mix. His dad's Egyptian
and his mom's American.
Speaker 1: Now, I mean, dude, this was like the weakest freaking
psy op. Dude. I mean, this just looks Why is
he wearing such a loose beanie? And then he's got
his chick? Is that his girlfriend? Who knows? Right? She
looks like I don't know, she was like Nina, Nina
Coopri and Novna, right, I mean she looks like Nina.
But let's fast forward past a little bit of those
let's see what's his what's his story here?
Speaker 2: Yes that's a real title, and another popular series called
The Arrivals, which racked up millions of views online. But
the real turning point for this guy.
Speaker 1: Came, oh so wait the Arrivals that remember that YouTube
series that was popular that was so stupid.
Speaker 2: That was this guy about in times prophecies with titles
like the Anti Christ de j'all is a Reptilian shape shifter.
Yes that's a real title.
Speaker 1: Cheta o you men, consciousness five cents.
Speaker 2: Re and another popular series called The Arrivals, which racked
up millions of yews online.
Speaker 1: But the real.
Speaker 2: Turning point for this guy came in two thousand and
eight when he moved to Cairo, Egypt, just in time
to get involved with the twenty eleven Egyptian Revolution. That
was actually the year I got married. So Abdullah describes
his experience as vivid.
Speaker 1: Uh wait is that Arab? This is Arab spring, CIA
funded Arab spring. That's interesting. I wonder if he was
on the side of the Arab spring because that would
mean already, dude, you're sus Bra. I mean, look, we
already know right away he's sus wearing that beanie in
that uh. I mean, come on, now, this is a
damn It looks like a creeper van right with Arab
brush on it. And you know when you see an
eighties airbrush van, you're going to see a wizard. You're
going to see a skull. You're going to see a
wolf howling out a moon, a planet. Yeah, look at that.
I want an airbrush image and a horse running. I
want airbrush image that combines all of it. I want
a skull riding on a horse, fighting, a wolf howling
at a wizard inside of a Confederate flag. I want
the whole thing. Dude, look at that, and I'm surprised
there's not more like, you know, bare breasted wench maidens
on the side of airbrush fans. But you don't actually
see a lot of wenches. You see a lot of
wizards and dudes, but you know, here's the one with
a breasty chick. What do y'all think about these vans?
So this dude was like for my anti Christ cathedral.
He's over there cooking it up. He's like, I want
a giant airbrush picture of me, Dude, that's what I want.
He's like, I know how to grab the youth. I
can speak the language of the youth with a giant
air brush VINGI in RA.
Speaker 2: So you're saying this, I was a youth who was
on the front lines of the Egyptian Revolution. I camped out,
I was attacked by government agents in Egyptian police forces.
I had dodged bullets and engaged in deadly battles and
I was arrested.
Speaker 1: Okay, So this guy's coming out of the CIA promoted
Arab spring and tortured.
Speaker 2: Well after this very dramatic period, Abdullah encountered a charismatic
figure named Ahmed al Hassan an Iraqi Shia leader who
claimed he was the Yamani, a prophesied precursor to Islam's
messiah figure, the Mahdi. Okay, quick sidebar. The Mahdi in
Islamic eschatology is a divinely guided leader expected to establish
a kingdom of justice at the end of times.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: Abdullah became deeply convinced that Ahmed al Hassan was the
real deal, eventually announcing himself as Ahmed's appointed successor in
twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1: By the way, I mean, guys, Shia is crazy. I
don't I don't think I have to tell you guys this,
but sa Islam is absolutely nuts. And that doesn't mean
that I'm oh.
Speaker 5: Listen to desionist, listen to the desirest us.
Speaker 1: No, dude, they're both crazy, okay, but Shia Islam is
insane crazy. I played you the Shia rave. I mean anyway,
It's just sad that these movements are so prone, and
you get the same thing in Rabbinic Judaism where they
are constantly plagued with Messiah claimants as well. Right, So
this is not unique to Islam with its false prophets,
its maidy claimants or whatever. But there's just some really
really wild stuff in Shia. Not that there's not wild
stuff in the Sunni stuff too, It's it's all just goofy, dude.
But if you want to support stream, you can do
so through the link right there anyway, So how many
we got anybody in the audience convinced that Abdullah Hasham
is the legit Madi.
Speaker 2: Taking on titles such as the Second Mahdi and the
Riser of the Family of Muhammad. Now fast forward to today.
An Abdullah or Abba al Sadik, as he's now called,
has formally established a religious group called the Amadi Religion
of Peace and Light. They're a relatively small but international movement,
with followers spread across forty different countries. They've launched satellite
TV channels like the Black Banners of the East, and
published their own scriptures, including Abdullah's recent release, The Mahdi's Manifesto,
which lays out his vision for a divine just state.
Speaker 1: He's a divine justice warrior. Of course, everyone in this
audience already knows that there's an immediate disqualifier. Look, we
need to start thinking about disqualifiers in religious argumentation and apologetics.
What do I mean I mean, there's certain things that
are such a systemic level problem in your worldviewer and
your system that if you fall for them, or if
you are wrong on these points, your whole system is
immediately disqualified. You're out strike three, dude. And I did
a helpful video here laid down sort of laying out
this whole point of the no new revelations, right, And
it's just funny to me that here we have an
Islamic iteration and it would already be disqualified if we
understood that Islam itself is disqualified because there's no new
public divine revelations after the Apostles died, right. And here
is this video right there if you want to see
how we can easily disqualify at a systemic level any cults,
any groups, any systems that claim that there's new public
divine revelations. Now, arguably, Roman Catholicism also could fit into
this category, because I recognize that Roman Catholics at least
practically confess that public divine revelation ceased with the death
of the Apostles. But how many of us can testify
testify to the fact that most Roman Catholics actually treat
Fatima like new public divine revelation, don't they? And I
started thinking about it, is the papacy itself any different
than new public ongoing divine revelation. I mean, the Pope
speaks es Cathedral. He basically is a one, is my view,
kind of a cult leader. So no, I think that
you could even extend this to the papacy itself. And
again I want to remind you that the reason I'm
bringing up systemic disqualifiers one of these examples would be
the very thing that you see here again where Taylor Marshall,
for example, is in twenty twenty and in twenty twenty
three promoting the quote prophecy of quote Blessed Anna Taigi
that is equivalent to tradcat QAnon, where the world is
plunged into an apocalyptic chaos at the election of a
new pope. These examples, as well as Marshall's vision of
engorged milkers, demonstrate that tradcats are in the exact same
position as charismatics. Sam Shamoun scam Shamou is a charismatic.
They're all in the same boat of essentially promoting new
public divine revelations, and thus every time their stupid fake
prophecies don't come about. They're no different than the Jehovah's
witnesses who predicted the end of the world many times
over and revised it. They're no different than Harold Camping,
who predicted the end of the world many times over
and will just revise it when it didn't happen. They're
all in the same boat because they're all under the
same delusions. They violate Deuteronomy thirteen and eighteen's standards of
if a prophet tells you a thing and it doesn't
come true, you know not to listen to them. That's simple.
How many tradcats, how many sadas, including most Holy Family
Monastery in the Quack Kook cult groups have said John Paul,
the second final Antichrist revealed francis final Antichrist, and when
yet again, here the tradcats are telling us the final Antichrist.
Speaker 6: From Earth and it's the form of wars and revolutions.
And then the other is from heaven, and it's the
darkness that lasts three days. Nothing will be visible, and
the air will have literal accoutings. Wrong with the air.
You can't see anything. And then she gives us this
detail only blessed candles can be lighted and will fordably so.
Light bulbs aren't going to work. Your computer's not going
to work, your car is not going to work. Any
of the man made forms of light.
Speaker 1: Right, but will the magical mystical cat nip, cat ass, hair, dust,
orbs floating around will they still give us light? Can
we get orb light during this three days of darkness?
According to the charismatic Roman Catholics out there, again, that's
the pressing question, right, Well, turns out there is a solution.
You need magic candles blessed by certain trad Cat priests.
Those are the only candles that will work during the
three days of darkness that's coming because of the final
papal election or whatever nonsense this is. Now, this is
not just from Taylor Marshall, one of my former friends
many many years ago, a trad Cat. I heard this
from a trad cat many years ago, the Great Chastisement,
And there were trad Cat priests back then in two
thousand and seven eight pushing this very popular I don't
even know what you call it, private revelation, whatever that's
supposed to mean on the Roman Catholic world and predicting
all this sort of nonsense, and then when it doesn't happen,
they just ignore it and move on. Right, just like
Mary's statements at Fatima that the Immaculate Heart of Mary
will convert Russia to her Immaculate Heart, which means that
Russia will become Roman Catholic. And then when you point
out that hasn't and won't happen. Oh but you see,
it wasn't done right. Right. The Pope didn't say the
magic words right, and so he didn't obey Mary, even
though the Vatican already said that they did do the
request of Fatima multiple times over. Oh but you see,
it's really a conspiracy because they didn't actually do the
magic words right. And we've done many many podcasts. If
you guys remember three or four years ago, right, the
tradcats went wild lofton Marshall, all of them, because Francis
was gonna do the consecration of Russia the right way.
And what did we tell you guys back then, nothing burger,
nothing's going to happen. It's a bunch of nonsense. And
guess who was right? We were right. Did any of
the tradcats revise their bull crap? Of course not. And
if you doubt me on that. Just remember, I mean,
does no one have a memory? Three years ago Pope
Francis to consecrate Russia. Fatima signs and wonders, what was
this three or four years ago? Let's se March twenty third,
twenty twenty two. Three years ago, did Francis do any
of what all the Engorged Milker proponents were telling you
was gonna happen? No, no, Georgi one dollar. Have you
ever considered Islamic Jesus that he will cancel jju, break
the crosses and fight against the Christians. Do you think
this makes him Antichrist? Could be Jasper Daddy Falcon. Are
you familiar with doctor Michael Heiser. Yes, he used to
subscribe to my website for years. His book, Me On
Seem realm had me break free of low church Protestant nonsense.
He passed away. I'm aware, Thank you. Orthodox Big Chungue
is five dollars. This guy thinks he's the Mahdi. Dude
needs to take a shower. Dude thinks he's in Doune. Yeah,
he thinks he's a quizots hot right, yes, Ua bar
five dollars, Jay, can you make a video refeting Hinduism.
What about sod Guru? I mean Orthodoxy in the religion
The Future refused Hinduism and Tristan and I did multiple
podcasts years ago about sod Guru. The reason that we
have too many people? What does he say? Too many feats?
Too many feeds. The reason that we have overpopulation is
too many feats. I forget what is No, we have
too much carbon footprint because too much feeds. That's where
it is. Austin Kyle ten dollars. Yeah, I've been watching
your videos for some time. I moved towards Orthodoxy. I
come from a Southern Baptist background. What are good books
to pick up to get into Orthodoxy? I have a
reading list on my website, but I would say read
doctor Clark Carlton's series because those are directed against Protestants,
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So let's get back to Cameron's discussion of the latest
new anti Christ drip drop. Now, you guys, remember the
Vegans told us that Tristan was the Antichrist. Tristan Haggard
was gonna lead the final Day's Armageddon battle against the
Vegans the carnivores. We're gonna lead the battle. I'm not joking.
There was Vegan saying this recently against the vegans in
this apocalyptic battle, and the main contender amongst the Vegans
for Antichrist was Tristan. So I'm gonna have to get
together an Antichrist creator clash where we have a squaring off,
a blood sport debate between Abdullah Hashim and Tristana Haggard.
Who will win? Who will win?
Speaker 2: And to give you like a feel for what this
guy believes about leadership, here's a quote directly from his
Man of Festo quote. Every town, county, city, state, country,
every movement, revolution, community, and society needs a leader or
else it is doomed to damn son.
Speaker 1: That's kind of I like his the layout of his
wisdom here. It's like for every society needs a leader
or it will fail. Like this sounds like something, This
sounds like a paper. A fifth grader was tasked with writing, right,
I mean, this is so stupid, but you know what,
it's so stupid, it'll probably actually like take off, right,
Like the dumbest shit ever is what takes off and
is successful if you haven't noticed. So actually, the fact
that this is so dumb and so like every town
need a wheedle. I learned this on the front lines
fighting Mohammed Hasnibobarik.
Speaker 7: This is crazy.
Speaker 1: Uh oh. I wanted to see if I could find
the vegan guy who says Trustan is the Antichrist. By
the way, I'm not trying to be mean, because it's
not like this guy actually believes this, right, and he
believes this because I suspect I suspect more and more
people are having mental issues in a very serious way.
We have a lot of people who are on meds
and we don't even realize it.
Speaker 7: Let's try it this way.
Speaker 1: I thought we're gonna I thought we were gonna find it.
Let's try vegan antichrist. Let's see if we can get
this guy's videos. They're pretty funny. Dang it. I can't
remember that guy's name, but it's a small vegan channel
who does numerology. Shocker and uh yeah, so Tristan Haggard
is let's see, let's try last time, is the Antichrist
because I really want to see the Mahdi square off
against Tristan.
Speaker 7: A dang dude.
Speaker 1: Maybe he left YouTube. I don't know, but I mean
it's worth considering.
Speaker 2: Fail Without inadequate leader, the people are forced to choose
between inadequate ones. Not exactly the most part.
Speaker 1: This is some high tier ship right here. Without a
good leader, people must choose badly.
Speaker 2: Particulate leader. But he criticizes popular elections and democratic processes,
arguing that true leaders are divinely chosen by God, also
the true successor of the apostle Peter and therefore their
rightful pope. So in his own words, from him he might.
Speaker 1: Win over some of the set of a contests. I mean,
if you're a set of a contests, you got to
realize that all the cardinals are ordained in the invalid
new right of ordination, So there are no there's no
way if you're a set of a contest to get
a new pope right. And this is where you get
Conclavism and a bunch of the other sects and cults
that split off of the older generation set of a
contests because they realize there is no way to get
a pope without the Roman Curia. If there is no
Roman Curia, then you conceivably what would just have your
set of a contest sect elect their own pope. And
that's where you get some of these recent claimants like
Pope Michael, who was living in Canada. Everybody remembers Pope Michael.
He passed away a few years ago. The guy who
had his papacy in his mom's attic. I'm not kidding. Like,
he lived at home with his mom. They had an
attic upstairs, and that's where the everybody called it the
Attican instead of the Vatican because he lived in his
mom's attic and he would do his papal pronouncements and
now you know, Francis would come out on the papal
balcony and do his blessings or whatever, and Pope Michael
would be out on the his mom's porch in the
swing and the grandma swing on the porch do his
papal blessings. Yeah, I'm not joking. There was a y'all
don't know about. So some of the early set of
a conscious movements elected. It's called Conclavism. They realized what
today's low tier, dumb set of a contests haven't figured out,
which is that you're never gonna have a pope without
the Roman Curia because in Canon law, the only person
who can elect a pope is the Roman Curia of
the cardinals. All the cardinals are a pastate Vatican two,
invalid elected, invalidly ordained people. I mean, do you guys
not know that most out of a contests believe that
the new right of ordination is invalid. So everybody ordained
after the New Right is invalid. They're not priests, they're
not bishops. The last pre new right ordination cardinal died
under Francis, so there's no valid cardinals. If you're a
strict STA. I can't believe you guys don't know about
Pope Michael. And I think Pope Michael died last year,
didn't he He still got his YouTube channel here, So
let's watch his coronation here, Let's see what happens. Oh,
this is his a cessor from a year ago when
he died. So Pope Michael died, and now there's a
Filipino dude who's standing up on the roof of a
Mexican restaurant. Up there's a Mexican dude up on a
Mexican restaurant. But Michael the Second, Oh, Pope Michael the Seconds.
He looks like he's done in the Philippines. Okay, So
if y'all are looking for the true, real Apostolic set
of a concious tried church, it's there's only one, but
it's in the Philippines, so you're gonna have to make
your way out. It was a Mexican restaurant. He's up
there on top of the damn you know, they actually
got it. That's actually a pretty decent sized building there.
But we're not looking for Pote Michael the Second. We're
looking for Yeah, Pope Michael the First. This is July
the sixteenth, nineteen ninety and holbamus pop them. We have
a pope.
Speaker 8: Just elected.
Speaker 1: Was Michael the first?
Speaker 9: There you go, but I want to see the footage
of him on his balcony.
Speaker 1: Here's the attic Eastern Message twenty ten. This is this
is the attic in Pope Michael's Eastern Message twenty ten
from the attic of his mom's house.
Speaker 10: This is the day the Lord has made let us
speak glad and rejoice in it. Here here renowned Satan
and professor of Catholic faith and obedience to a mighty God.
Soon we shall end the fast of land. However, although
the obligatory fasting ends, our detachment from the world must continue.
Let us not return to the world and live as
if we were pagan's. Let us recall that the Roman
Catechism tells us that the whole life of a Christian
ought to be a perpetual penance.
Speaker 1: It I'm just trying to find the picture of him
sitting on his mom's porch. That's the but here we go,
by the way, that's the new Vatican. If you haven't
seen it, that was my foot. By the way, I'm
not farting. See I got a sweaty uncreated foot fart going.
And thank you to Lauren Bass for this documentary. Right here.
See y'all thought I was joking about. No, he's on
his grandmama's ports dude.
Speaker 8: Okay, this is the sitting room. This is where he
relaxed in the evening.
Speaker 1: This is the new Vatican sitting room right here, right,
Vatican in exile.
Speaker 8: For our day's work, we might play a sermon over there.
On television or maybe even something entertaining. I don't know
that I have to explain the.
Speaker 1: Kitchen to I didn't realize he was such a Southern man.
This is a straight up Alabama boy. What's he doing
in damn Canada with a damn Southern accent of that degree?
Our started the new Southern Vatican.
Speaker 5: We are going to immediately disqualify any Yankee food from
being kocer.
Speaker 1: From now on, only.
Speaker 5: Hushpupp Is, diet, doctor pepper, and mountain dew will be
allowed in communion. Here onto the Southern papercy of Pope
Michael the Second of Holy Alabama.
Speaker 8: This is, of course where we cook our meals. We
both take turns cooking. You've actually made a video for
YouTube right here.
Speaker 1: Oh shit, on that damn stove. By the way, there's
the new Vatican Archives right there. So if y'all look
at for the Vatican Archives is right there over here.
This is a memo's chapel Saint memo. What if we're
all wrong and Pope Michael is actually literally the last
actual Pope. What if this was actually correct and we
were wrong, I'd be like, damn, I was so wrong.
Dade Hope Michael was legit. The whole world laughed, and
we were wrong the entire time.
Speaker 8: And this is our chapel in here, and this is
where we do our best work, that is in prayer
before Almighty gotten.
Speaker 1: Now what's that. That's the guard dog. That's the look
at the Vatican. You got the Swiss guard right here here,
you got the Puss guard outside, the new the Attican.
Speaker 8: Normal one that comes around here. But there there's an
ambulance three doors up a while back when they feed cats,
and I'm seeing those cats coming down here to eat.
Don't you like what you've got there? Hello, I'm Pope Michael,
and welcome Tomorrown.
Speaker 1: Poor guy, he's just a damn uh you know, autism man,
that's all.
Speaker 3: He is myself.
Speaker 8: Basically. That's a picture of one of my favorite saints,
Saint Antoninas. He like myself, trained himself. Three priests came
up from Mexico. They said, we are here to see
Archbishop Lafair to ask him to work with us to
elect the pope. So the seed was planted.
Speaker 1: Then all right, well I'm not finding him on his
mama's porch. I think there's a picture of this is
July sixteenth nineteen, because he was. He's been interviewed in
the media many times, and he was churning out the
videos eight years ago, wasn't he. Anyway, do we have
any set of a constiest Pope Michael followers in the audience.
Dang dude, Pope Michael was just churning in and out
the damn lectures and the sermons. He was hard at
it in that tiny little attican. Anyway, that's Pope Michael.
And uh, let's get back to the Mahdi has manifesto.
Speaker 2: He says this quote, we are to the Muslim nation
what the Pope is to Catholics, and what the Dalai
Lama is to Tibetan Buddhists, and what the Messiah is
to the Jews.
Speaker 1: The people are asking about the Palmarian Church. Yes, I've
known about the Palmarian Church since two thousand and seven,
and I've read pretty extensively about them. So yeah, I'm very,
very familiar with all this stuff. I used to be
in the trackcat world man throughout my twenties. I mean,
I was never into Pope Michael Edge, so he always
thought it was funny. But yes, I know of all
the conclaves all the different groups.
Speaker 2: Pope is illegitimate and the only true successors of the
prophets and messengers are Abdullah, Ahmed and al Mahdi. In
other words, Abba al Sadik believes that he was He
was a explicitly named in a prophetic chain that stretches
from Jesus to Muhammad and then to his mentor Amad
al Hassan, and then finally to himself. He argues that
explicitly here, he says.
Speaker 3: Jesus Salai Islam appointed his successor in his lifetime, and
none has the right to appoint by him. He appointed
Simon Peter when he said, and I tell you that
you are Peter, and on this rock I will build
my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.
I will give you the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven.
Whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven,
and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.
So Jesus sale Islam named the first of his successors,
and he named the last as well, the comforter. He's said, therefore,
I'm sending you profits and sages and tease.
Speaker 1: And when they call doctor, He's the when to make
it feel all right? Like Muslims are so low tier?
Do they think the comforter is just some dude?
Speaker 5: Right, it's just a dude, it says, when the comforter comes,
that's some dude.
Speaker 1: That's like doctor feel good. Hey man, I'm just here
to show up, make y'all feel good.
Speaker 11: Man.
Speaker 1: They call me the comforter. Man, I'm here to make
y'all feel good. Like it's just some dude. He's the
one to call doctor feel good. He's going to make
you fe oh aldo Baina three dollars. I watching interviews
of surgeons and patients talking about NDEs near death experiences,
famous famous cardiac surgeon stories. It's very interesting. That would
be interesting to watch. What are your views on these
I've never watched those. I don't know what to say
on those videos. You should do a commentary on them,
that would be interesting. He's the one to call doctor
feel good. I mean, imagine being so dumb that you
think that the comforter is a dude, just some like
future coming guy that you call the comforter like doctor
feel good or like I mean the very chapter where
it discusses the comforter explains who it is. It's not
some dude. Man, it's not just a guy that shows up, eh,
and the comforter man on here trying to help y'all
know what's up. I'm here. I mean to me, it's
so dumb. I can't even I can't fathom how dumb
the entire Islamic religion is. It's just supremely stupid. Even
if you didn't believe in religion, like the whole religion
is based on chopping up and misunderstanding the Bible. It's
just insane. Even if you didn't believe the Bible, like,
that's still verifiably what's going on. Right, Even if I
didn't believe John fourteen, fifteen sixteen, I could still tell
you that in the passage it's referring to the Divine Person,
the Holy Spirit. It's not talking about some dude that
shows up as a successor. It's just so stupid. It's amazing.
Cards YT two dollars j unmute. I swear that I've
seen this dude in TV shows. It'll probably come out.
This dude was an actor. Now, he was involved in
the Arab Spring, according to his own testimony, I wouldn't
be surprised if he wasn't some kind of actor or something.
He does look kind of familiar. His boice sounds familiar too.
He cost sounds like I don't know, like I'm not
trying to offend John Hears, but just making a joke.
Here he cost sounds like John here is a little bit.
Speaker 3: Crucify others. You will flog in your synagogues and pursue
from town to town. He also said, because of this,
God in his wisdom said I will send them prophets
and apostles, some of whom they will kill, and others
they will persecute. Clearly, Jesus had Sadam spoke of prophets
who would come after him, and he named the chief
among them. Nevertheless, I tell you the truth. It is expedient.
Jesus said for you that I go away, for if
I go not away, the comforter will not come unto you.
But if I depart, I will send him unto you.
And there has never been a man in history who
claimed to be that comforter.
Speaker 1: Hey, by the way, I think I might have solved
the mute button problem because I'm not at my normal abode,
and so I have I had to buy a different microphone,
and this microphone has an easily accessible button, so it
might work for me to just mute from the mic
instead of having to click this stupid thing in obs
which I always miss clicking it. So let's try Maybe
that'll work. I think it'll work. Let's try it that way.
Speaker 3: Except the best of all profits, the master of mankind, Mohammed.
He was selling them.
Speaker 1: On Matthew mcconaughe. It's Matthew McConaughey, dude, that's what he said.
Speaker 3: He became the inheritor of the messengers, the successor to Jesus.
Speaker 1: Is not a joke. I don't know what you guys are.
This is an actual cult, Like what do they call it?
The religion of Peace and Light or some some gay
ass name the religion Piece and Light?
Speaker 7: Give you bread.
Speaker 3: And the Father of mankind, the true Pope.
Speaker 2: So, according to Abba al Sadik, Mohammad wasn't just a prophet,
he was literally one of the popes after Peter. Let's
just let that sink in for a second, Okay. He
claims that Mohammad inherited Peter's role, and thus all subsequent
Islamic leaders inherited the people authority that originated from Jesus.
Speaker 1: London accent. Oh, maybe he's a British intelligence mind controlled
cult leader plant. I mean, if he's involved in Arab Spring,
by his own admission, then it's it's entirely possible he's
part of some He's probably of some cutout or like
an NNGO, Like you know, maybe he was an intelligence
operative in an NNGO and he's gone crazy. David m
Pena five dollars. People are people are so weird. The
pope could be your neighbor. Apparently Mohammad was a pope,
which I just learned today. I thought I've gotten I've
got like multiple histories of the papacy, like academic books
on the history of the papacy, and uh never realizes
this entire time that Mohammad was one of the popes.
Now keep in mind that, I mean, imagine being this dumb, right,
I mean, it's just like, dude, like people are so
uneducated and it's just sad that people can't use basic
critical thinking skills to reason, Like it should be obvious
just looking at this dude with his old air, his
whole air brushed by the way it looks if you
watch the full picture there's another picture of him being interviewed.
You can't really see it in this video, but there's
another picture where it's all lit up and you can
see his chapel. I don't know what he's got. It
actually looks like a cross between a synagogue, an Orthodox church,
and a pagan temple. It looks really weird, Francis, because
he's got like a giant bust that looks like a caesar.
I'll show you another pick. You can't really see it
in this video, but you'll see what I mean.
Speaker 2: Recently passed away, okay. In ab al Sadik wasted no
time capitalizing on this tragic event.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: In a video addressed specifically to Christians, he made a
shocking declaration about the people throne.
Speaker 3: The earth swallowed the false pope. He was killed by
the mere breath of the believers, chanting lebake alba.
Speaker 5: The bacon is now solid. The bacon is now solid.
The bacon is now solid. The bacon is now solid.
Speaker 1: See right there, you can kind of see his his
setup here. Let me zoom in on it for you.
So he's got like a bust of I can't tell
what it is. It looks like Caesar, but I'm sure
it's some like Muhammed or something who knows what it is,
can't really tell it. Maybe it's supposed to be him, right,
And then he's got like it looks like an iconostasis.
That's the crazy part, with like neon lights above the
icon of stasis. Isn't that weird?
Speaker 3: And the throne of falsehood was shaken. This miracle is
no less significant than the one which occurred at the
hands of the believers with Joshua, the son of now Naleisadam.
When they're mere presence around the walls of Jericho and
the South.
Speaker 1: Oh damn dude, these guys chanted and took out Francis.
I wonder if they I wonder if they what they
charged for chance, Because I got some people i'd like
them to chant at chant The bacon is now solid
at some people I don't like, I'm gonna have to
reach out to the Mahdi and be like, hey, dude,
I got a little bit of bitcoin I might donate
if I could get y'all to chant as some of
the people I don't care for. The bacon is now solid.
The bacon is now solid. By the way, what do
y'all think of that. That dumb picture of him doesn't
even look like him. The picture looks like like DJ Khalid. Dude,
do what if DJ Khalid is the is the mad bro? Do?
That picture on the back is DJ Khaleed? Look at
that idead.
Speaker 5: Let's see if we can find DJ Khaled in a hoodie.
The bacon is now solid. The bacon is now solid.
Speaker 1: Is in a beanie? DJ colored and a beanie? DJ
Collid in a beanie? Baby?
Speaker 5: Oh shit, look at that? There we go, it's DJ Colled.
The bacon is now solid. The bacon is now solid.
Speaker 1: Look at that right there, and then look at this
dude on the wall. That's DJ Colled. Dude, the bacon
is now solid. The bacon is no solid.
Speaker 3: Bounds of their horns caused the mighty walls to collapse.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he claims that the death of Pope Princess
was literally caused by his own followers protests and prayers.
Speaker 1: U can you prove it wasn't exactly they didn't think?
So all you papists, I want one papist to lay
out one piece of evidential proof, since y'all's a bunch
of evidentialists. Proved that his chance didn't kill Pope Francis
boom Baby.
Speaker 2: To sum it up very clearly, Abba al Sadik believes
at least four things. He's the Mahdi and in times
Islamic figure prophesied to restore justice. Number two, he's the
rightful pope, having inherited A.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, I just thought of something though, to
restore justice? How do we know justice isn't a dude?
The comforter is just a dude. If he's going to
restore justice, maybe we're just waiting on justice to show up.
And justice is the successor to Mohammed Oh whatever? Uh
what's his name? Abdullah Hashan? Hey, Justice, where are you at?
Speaker 2: We're Justice at party directly from Peter through Muhammad somehow. Three,
the current papacy, especially now after Pope Prince's death, is
illegitimate and divinely rejected. And then four, he's here to
establish a global state ruled directly by God through him,
fulfilling both Christian.
Speaker 1: And Islamic end times, the bacon is no solid and
again sold.
Speaker 2: Okay, they're not mine, and believe me, I'm itching to
address how biblically and historically whil these assertions are.
Speaker 1: But first, wait a minute, though, and again, evidentialist papists,
how are you going to prove that his chanting didn't
kill Francis? You can't. Oh, then it's possible. Well, if
it's possible, then I guess now the science and the
wonders tell us that we got to go with the
Mahdi dude on your epistemic grounds.
Speaker 2: Papists, really evaluate whether or not he is the anti
Christ or just another misguided cult leader. We have to
understand what the Bible actually says about the Antichrist. First,
let's get clear.
Speaker 1: All right, we are gonna move on. We know what
the Antichrist texts in the Bible say. Is that everything
from Madi what's his name? Now, let me show you
the full picture of his room, his little and by
the way, the other thing that I thought was funny,
I went and watched them his videos today. He a
lot of cult leaders. If you notice, they kind of
act like this is especially true with O show, right.
Cult leaders are always acting freaking high as hell. Dude.
They're always just like, you ask him a question and
then they're just like, we must do the right thing. Right,
let me show you he's about to fall over. Let's see,
I watched the video of him addressing lgbtq's where's that at?
I like how every every one of his videos is
a fundraiser? Like, why is every video is a fundraiser?
Speaker 8: I know?
Speaker 1: I saw a video on here about addressing LGBTQ. Where's
it at?
Speaker 7: All?
Speaker 12: Right?
Speaker 1: Let me try it this way? Oh here it is
all right? Check this out? All right? So we got
uh Mindy Kaling over here doing an interview with him, right.
Speaker 13: Dear time of the family of Muhammad Abasodik.
Speaker 1: We then come.
Speaker 11: My dear sister and companion Alia.
Speaker 1: Thank you, my dear. It's just he's talking like David
Blaine over here. David Blaine's always talking like he's pilled out,
like he could barely even just open his eyes.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 13: Thank you very very much for the honor of sitting
with me in doctoral fun today.
Speaker 1: God bless you guys the honors on mine.
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me Obsatik.
Speaker 13: We have this very fascinating phenomenon that is taking place
right now in this Dawa in the call of mamal Mehdi.
We know that you have been extraordinarily generous. You have
opened your doors to each and every person out there,
inviting them to this covenant.
Speaker 1: What do y'all think of the aesthetics of his neon
chapel there, Well, he's got some. I thought that was neon,
but he's actually got some. He's blocking out the light
and then he's got neon above the podium, and then
he's got his Kondo stasis.
Speaker 13: Behind him, inviting them to this call as the leader
of the Ahni religion of Peace and Light, as the
representative of God on Earth today.
Speaker 1: Dude, he just wants to touch the butts of the
brown chicks. That's it. Like, I can't like people just
try to oh mysticism. Oh, I gotta figure it out.
He's just trying to get with her and that other
chick in the other video. That's it, man, you're overthinking it,
and we are witnessed all the cult leaders are just
trying to touch butts and they use it's their game, Dude,
they don't when he was a revolutionary Arab spring activist.
You're not getting a lot of game. You're not getting
a lot of play with that. You could get a
lot more play if you're a divinely appointed messenger, dude.
Speaker 11: Duh.
Speaker 13: I think certain people having these questions regarding certain groups
of people, and I'm referring here specifically to the LGBTQ community.
Speaker 3: There are those out there.
Speaker 13: Who are questioning the fact that we do not openly
condemn them or actively reject them in this call. There
hasn't been no statement saying that they are not invited
to the call or that they are condemned. And we
would like to discuss that with you and see what
it is that. The comment on that would be, what
is that bus there?
Speaker 1: It looks like I can't make it out. It looks
like a weird like a Western like a like an
accountant or something like a dude that's going to do
your taxes. He's got glasses. It's like a bust of
a dude that's like a boomer that's going to do
your taxes. All right, I thought it was like Caesar,
but upon reflection, it looks more like an accountant. So
here's your genius definitely appointed messenger here. Yeah so yeah, so.
Speaker 3: That would be.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 11: So I think I would initially disagree with your opening
statement where you said that I was generous for opening
my door to all people. I think that God's door
is automatically open for all people.
Speaker 1: I super deep, dude, Why does he not move? It's
like dudes like frozen, right, Dude, he can't move. It's
like somebody said, tag you're it. You gotta freeze, and like,
dude still thinks he can't move. Man, you can move,
nobody somebody. Just because somebody tags you doesn't mean you
can't move.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 1: It's just a game, dude.
Speaker 11: I think the mere existence of a creature on the
face of the planet, with God given life and the
ability to breathe and think and act and have Oh, that.
Speaker 1: Was really profound. Remember oh show when he was like
stoned and he was sitting there talking and he was like,
I am drunk or no. Now, you can't play a
lot of these because they'll get you. They'll they'll tag you,
right man, I am Jenny. That's what I'm talking about.
That's my kind of cult letter. I amn't showed drunk
right now mine and I am drunk drunk right now?
All right, moving on. That's uh, that's what we got
going on there now. If y'all didn't know. In terms
of Jeff style, mceffrey Virginia Geoffrey passed away, apparently from
the s word self unaliving, and she was the Jeff
Sty mceffrey survivor, and she claimed a few years ago
that she was not going to engage in unliving and
now there apparently has occurred an unliving event. So I
don't know the details, but it is obviously vicious, and
I think no one is really surprised. I don't think
anybody believes that Jeffsin mceffrey unlived himself. Whether you believe
he was taken care of, or whether you believe he
was spirited away, whatever you think, it's kind of obvious, right,
And so we have one of the last Jeffson mceffrey,
or one of the most important jeff'son mcgeffrey survivors, is
no longer with us, and she said it would happen.
So there's that. I'm not gonna play on this comment
but or all this video, but Sean and Lionel did
cover this, so you can check that out there. We're
not going to be listening to indie no indie pop
music right now. We're not going to be listening to
shitty music, although I do have a nice collection of
shitty music. I might play you in a minute, but
next I did want to talk about. I'll a little
bit of this because apparently Sargone today why I'm not
a Christian like bertrand Russell right, So the famous essay
Bert and Russell right, why I'm not a Christian? So
I guess Sargon is kind of doing a play on that.
So and I've only heard Jimbob reference a couple of
Sargon's points, So I don't actually know the reasons that
Sargon gives. But from the couple of points that I
heard Jimbob critiquing, they're not very high tier. And and
I don't you know, I don't have anything against Sargone.
I never talked to him. I'm sure he's a wonderful
chap to converse with. A lot of these kinds of
media talker yapper people are not very sophisticated when it
comes to the topics that we talk about in discuss
I think everybody knows this, right, So, you know, maybe
he's on a journey towards the right religion. We'll see.
Let's hear some of his reasons. And I couldn't find
a good boiled down so I don't know how far
into this or what, but let's hear some of the reasons.
Speaker 14: How have you been really well, really, I'm busy.
Speaker 12: Yeah, oh yeah, I've seen you've been very, very busy
with but otherwise very good things, good stuff. Now, this conversation,
I wanted to center it all around atheism theology in
the modern world now, and I wanted to get your
views on lots of different topics within the topic of theology.
Would you say that you're on a type of spiritual
journey at the minute or you're not. Are you're still
an atheist?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 12: I believe you were involved somewhat in some conversations around
theological topics online and debates. Has your havee changed over
the years?
Speaker 14: So I used to be a new atheist by default, basically,
ale I liked watching Christoph Hitchin's videos online like everyone else,
and I'd not been raised in religious society, so I
was just I was just a materialist, just like everyone else.
And I don't think that's great. I think there are
problems that arise from this because I think the man
is a spiritual animal, whether he likes.
Speaker 8: It or not.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, I'm interested to know what does that mean
if you're no longer a materialist and man is a
quote spiritual animal. I don't know what that means, but
I think a lot of people who were into the
fads and the phases of new atheism and all that
kind of stuff when it was popping off, you know,
in the two thousands, and TJ. Kirk had his you
know what was this show Atheists? Matt del Hunty's was
Atheist Experience whatever, And I think a lot of people
eventually kind of evolved past that to use their terminology,
their magical phraseology, because you see that it's pretty low tier,
it's pretty empty, it's pretty unsatisfying, and it's actually pretty
philosophically weak and indefensible. I think when you're first presented
with critiques of religion, especially of low tier evangelical stuff
or very emotional Pentecostal charismatic stuff, and you see that
they don't have very good responses, right the same way
that say Muslims like Muslim Lantern right goes in debates
all the worst evangelicals, then it makes it look like
right Christianity is just an idiot religion, as if there
aren't good representatives or actually competent people who could defend
the positions. Same type of strategy that you see Ben
Shapiro doing for years going in debating purple haired freaks
that are twenty years old on a college campus and
can't answer or give a sentence without contradicting within a minute. Right,
all that kind of low hanging fruit stuff. It can
work to build an audience, but over time people grow
out of it. They move on because they realize and
they encounter better answers, better positions, more fleshed out philosophical discourse,
actual academic responses from academic Christians, doctor Branson, right, people
like that who can actually defend monarchical trinitarianism against a Muslim,
whereas Muslims are used to debating, you know, just garbage
tier evangelicals who couldn't even defend the Trinity on the
most basic level. So it's good that Sargon has moved
out of that two thousand and eight ship tier stuff.
But almost everyone has, right, I mean, there's just not
a lot of that left nowadays, of that, you know,
or two thousand and eight, two thousand and five atheism
stuff anymore.
Speaker 14: But the thing is the thesis of materialism is very persuasive,
as in, if the universe is just atoms and void,
and it mechanically moves on itself to produce certain predictable outcomes.
Then if that's all that there is, then everything spiritual
was essentially nonsense from the word go, and the progress
of science kind of implies that, yeah, that is all
there is. And so the more science advances, the more
almost ridiculous the spiritual component of human life looks. Because
the magic in the universe was there to explain things
that we didn't have answers to. Why does the Sun
travel across the sky? Well, Helios and his sun chariot
brings it across.
Speaker 1: Well, this is also just just a very normy take. Again,
I would kind of expect a little more philosophical depth
from Sargon, because I do think Sargon's an intelligent guy.
It's just the problem with a lot of the public
domain yapper people that have been talking head yappers for
twenty fifteen years whatever. They just don't know anything about philosophy.
They're not able to answer or even ask. They're not
even aware of the questions right, Like, for example, science
works on principles that are not under the purview of
the scientific method. You can't put those under a microscope,
you can't measure them, you can't bend them. You can't
trap them in a mouse trap. Where are they? What
are they? How are they? And how do we know
that they are? Those are all valid questions unless you
just want to ignore them, which many normies do. Neil
de Gras Tyson says, we don't ask those questions anymore
because it's useless and it's a problem for my position.
So moving out of that domain into those asking those
kinds of questions might be a step in the direction
that he needs to go. But I don't even think
that Sargon's aware of those questions. Although at one point
he'll actually start in the gym bob clip I heard
like he starts talking about arguments of philosophy and transcendent.
I don't know if he knows. I can't tell if
he's referencing the transcendental argument or if he's referencing just
the idea of the transcendent. I'm not sure.
Speaker 14: So every single day the sun rises and the seasons change,
and that the predictable patterns of life are explained with
a story that doesn't describe what is actually happening. Science
actually seems to describe what is actually happening.
Speaker 1: This is interesting because you know, it's kind of basic
that science and the scientific method do, in a very
limited way, describe how things occur. But by definition, it
can't tell why, and it can't give you value judgments.
So every time that he or anyone else talks about progress,
scientific progress, you need a scale, a value judgment. That's
where you get aughts from, that's where you get better worst.
And science as a discipline cannot tell you value judgments
because it can't tell you anything beyond a limited scope
of how things happen. It can never tell you why
things happen, and in.
Speaker 14: Doing so, the demistification of the universe around us strips
away the spiritual.
Speaker 1: Lit And by the way, I mean why at a
big scale, right, I'm not saying why at a small
causal scale? Right, like well, why do billiard ball be
move when a bill your ball a hit it? Because
the calls in the foot, That's why. No, No, I'm
saying that why is there causality at all? Why is
there anything at all? Like those kinds of bigger scale
philosophical questions, by the very definition and limitations of science
and scientific method cannot be answered by something that It'd
be like saying why can't the screwdriver you make the
rocket fly. Well, the screwdriver is not made.
Speaker 8: To do that.
Speaker 1: It's limited in what it can do. It's not the
thing that makes a rocket fly. It might be involved,
but it's not able to do that. It's just a screwdriver.
So likewise, the scientific method is a method for studying
and understanding and manipulating the natural world. That's really all
it can do. It can't tell you what happened ten
thousand years ago. It can't tell you eleven million years ago.
It can't tell you any of that. It can't tell
you the future. It can you can theorize and try
to back up those theories with interpreting the present day data,
but by definition there's no empirical sense data of the past,
much less a million years ago.
Speaker 14: If it's all just atoms avoid moving on one another,
then there isn't any room for God in this. And
the persuasive power science is found in the technological progress
that we find ourselves with the fact that we can
sit here and do this is in some way a
kind of proof that there's no God.
Speaker 1: This is so that's solow tier. So because you can
do things with science and tech and because deities used
to be a primitive form of science in the ancient world,
is what he's trying to argue. Then we don't need
the deities and the explanations because we can do stuff,
but doing stuff doesn't tell you why it's possible to
do stuff. Right, So I think Sargon has not really
thought about or encountered meta level questions, paradigm level questions,
presuppositional level questions, because if he did, he would realize
that the scientific method cannot tell you why the scientific
method works, why it's reliable, or why anything is knowable
or reliable.
Speaker 14: To the materialist perspective.
Speaker 1: And also it would demonstrate that if materialism is true,
science is impossible. Yes you heard me right. If materialism
is true, science is impossible because there is no such
thing as sciencia, which is the word knowledge coming to
know things, or had to have knowledge of the world,
to have an understanding of basic principles and laws of nature,
because in a disteleological universe there are no laws. If
everything is accidental, then nothing is law like you see,
and there is not justifiable knowledge in an absolutely chaotic,
disteleological accidentalism based worldview. Right, that's what we just saw
as I tried for two hours to explain or at
least the second half of the debate with Fabian Liberty
the other day. Right, if everything is accidental, disteleological, just chaos,
then all of the particulars, even you as an individual,
even though you think there's meaning and there's order in
your subjective, minuscule grand picture perspective, in reality, that's not
the case. In reality, that's also meaningless. It just appears
meaningful to you. But in the grand scheme, if all
reality at megascale is accidentalism, chaos and meaninglessness and nihilism,
then you are also, by necessity, as a particular within
that big scope, a nihilistic, meaningless sack of meat, and
you will dissolve into the void and nothing you've done
has any meaning and it doesn't matter anyway. And so
thus science is also part of this illusion that we
are actually doing anything, accomplishing anything, or that anything is meaningful.
But I don't think Sargone, And I'm not trying to
be rude or or sassy, because I mean I was.
I was wanting to debate Sargone back when Spencer debated
Sargone on Andy Worski Live Okay, I wanted the next
debate with Sargon. I was trying to get it, but
of course he didn't want to do it. So and
he may have just thought that, you know, oh he's
too you know, small, small channel or whatever. But the
thing is, I mean I was co hosting with Warski
around that time, right, So even if I didn't have
a huge channel like I could have still said, well,
but I'm on Warski, so I wanted you debate me
as his co host Nick five dollars and seven cents.
What about those more gold bars in the background than
Fort Knox. That's funny. I would imagine those are chocolate
Their gold covered chocolate bars is what those are. Let's see, serr, hypocrite,
what's up? Became a member for three months. I wonder
if Sargon has reaction to do that. He has It
has to do with Western Christianity creating the dialectrical tensions
between spirituality and the material world. Yes, he seems smart,
but he offered its own classical foundations of course, right,
So Sargon is a classical liberal, and as I understand,
he's sort of moved in his process of thinking from
what I've seen in the debates on the quote debates,
the tweet debates with him and James Lindsay on Twitter.
Sargon seems to have moved in the direction of like
Nietzscheanism and sort of he doesn't like immigration, you know
this this kind of stuff, like in a more of
a quote right perspective. But at the same time he's
coming out of the classical liberal ethos right. If you
remember back when he debated Spencer, it was about classical
liberalism's limitations and people groups, shall we say? And uh,
I do not believe that Sargon won that debate. I
think that he did not win that debate. However, nowadays
it seems that perhaps Sargon has maybe not moved all
the way in that position as his opponent there, but
at least in the position of being opposed to you know,
Cure Starmer's Fabian socialism and the you know, extreme social
degradation that results from Fabian socialism. As we've been pointing
out for many, many years, and again if you don't
know that Cure Starmer is openly Fabian socialist. So why
is Islam goale everywhere in the UK Because the Fabian
Socialists for one hundred years plus have promoted that that's
why to destroy Western that what do you think, like
it's like people, well would they do maybe, because if
you'd listen to me for the last ten years, you
would know why, because I've been talking about this stuff
for long time. Uh, let's go back to Sargon.
Speaker 14: Having been raised as a materialist, it's hard to feel spiritual,
right this this this sort of whatever organ in the
human soul, in the body that it controls, the sort
of the spiritual feeling the one has is the best
deeply atrophied for me.
Speaker 1: Jordaan and ten dollars. This is off topic, But Sam
the orb Oracle has already said doctor Joshua is a
heretic because he's converted Orthodoxy because he said that you
can predicate that trinity as three quote gods or beings,
that it's ipso facto heretical. Well, I mean there's confusion
over language here because I don't know all of doctor
Joshua's positions, and I think doctor Branson isn't on board
with that per se. But I mean the Nicing Creed
says God from God, and it looks like they're the
word God is picking out person from person. So it
just really depends on what you think the words are
picking out right, And I think the main issue with
doctor Joshua, according to what I'm told, I haven't seen
doctor Joshua since he argued with Jake. Right, So he
did a debate with Jake years ago, and I remember
that debate. But doctor Joshua was at that time Roman Catholic,
and he's now been received into the Orthodox Church, so
I know doctor Joshua is at least basically speaking, a
monarchical trinitarian. And so this came up on Twitter, and
that's why I shared this again for those that are interested.
So here is an article I wrote some years ago
about how the Cappadocians use the terminal that the Father
is the one Arka, that's mono Arka, that's where monarch
comes from, mono ark the one cause in the triad.
And if you're Orthodox, this really shouldn't be even controversial, right.
So this is my article that's kind of a you know,
just cites a lot of Orthodox Church fathers, Photius, you know,
and others, Palomas, other theologians talking about that we're not
we don't believe in a Western Latin equalitarian triad. Right,
That's why they're not very good at responding to the
Muslims because Muslims will say, ooh, Jesus prey too, who
Jesus prey too? Well, he's praying to God the Father.
First Corinthian says, for us there was one God of
the Father. The Creed says, I believe in one God,
the Father, the one God according to the Cappadocians, first
and foremost picks out the hypostasis of the Father, who
is the one cause found an Arkae. And this is
shouldn't even be questionable in Orthodox just it's like basic,
super basic Cappadocian theology. And I cite everything from Cappadocians
to Basil to Florowsky to Laski to John Damascus. I mean,
I go through tons and tons of Sanga, Nazi and Zeus,
tons and tons of just basically this is basically just
a flora gellium. Right, It's not even really me even
writing an article. It's just a collection of quotes on
the topic. Is really what this is from Orthodox Saints writers,
et cetera. It's weird to me that anyone even really
has an issue with this. It's it's such a fundamental,
basic kind of mistake that people make. And I don't
know doctor Joshua's position, so I can't speak to him.
I haven't heard or affirmed or very what he thinks.
But what people were saying on Twitter was, oh, he
says that the word yahweh just picks out God the Father. Okay,
but I mean that's not necessarily denying the full divinity
of the son, right And so a lot of times
people hear monarchical trinitarianism, they get all tripped up and
they think that that it's some form of subordinationism. Well,
if you mean in a sense of role, Yeah, the
father has the role of being the one cause, the
one arcae, the one found, the one principle. The son
does not have that role. He is from the Father, eternally,
from the father. The son eternally has his source and
his existence from the Father. So he depends on the father. Okay,
that's basic Nicene Christianity. That's what the original Nicene creed
at Nicea talks about. The son eternally generates the entirety
of or excuse me, the father eternally generates the entirety
of the son. And so the first thing to understand
is that generation is from the father's essence. It is
not from the essence proper, because that would mean that
all the persons generate the son because they all share
the same essence. But no, the son is eternally begotten
of the father's essence. Now, for those that are interested
in a more specific lecture series, doctor Branson, who did
his PhD on the Cappadocians, he is the Orthodox expert
on the Cappadocians, did his lecture series many years ago
that I recommend right here on the monarchia of the Father.
And it's not even really controversial when you believe and
understand orthodoxology. So people need to go work their way
through this and stop listening to people that think that
dustballs are signs of divine guidance and providence. And you know,
I'm sorry that that scam Shimoun has become what he is,
So I think he's an absolute lunatic and people should
absolutely avoid him. And if you don't see and have
the discernment at this point to figure that out, then
be my guest and go follow his crazy nonsense, because
you're not going to have the discernment to follow along
with what we talk about, right, all right where were we?
I got that, Oh, Carl Benjamin, I got that super
chat about doctor. But I'm happy to see doctor Joshua
coming into Orthodoxy. And look, hey, if he's you know,
coming into Orthodoxy, I feel confident that whatever trinitarian issues,
I don't even know that there is one. Maybe he doesn't.
Maybe this is all just made up internet drama because
I haven't followed it or seen his stuff. If there
is something he's got wrong, well he's making the right
move to move into Orthodoxy, and I'm sure that God
will sort it out. Koudi grav became a remember Oustin
became a member. Justin Henley. What's up?
Speaker 6: Man?
Speaker 1: What that he is? Smiven Schmirk twenty dollars, Jay. I
will be inside of an ORB tonight. Please pray for
me the sphere in Las Vegas. I'm going to a
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my zoomer dead head son and my zoomer dead head daughter.
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Maylon Kaisner became a member for a month. Christ Has Risen,
happy to see you here. What's up? Man Ian Johnson
five dollars. Comments like Karl made Carl Benjamin said the
spiritual organ of the soul maybe makes me think that
he's seen some of your stuff. Could be. I think
a lot of people too that are not really you know,
familiar with the subject matter and the topics. You know,
when they hear me talk about something like the transcendental argument,
they'll start hearing, you know, other uses of the term
and think it's the same thing, right, Like, Like we
had some people who were critical of us some years
back that thought that the transcendental argument was like American transcendentalism,
like you know, Henry Thoreau and Walden. Like they're so
stupid that they didn't even know the difference between these things, right,
that they were concept fallacy. So and I'm not trying
to be rude to Carl Benjamin. I mean, I don't
have anything against him. I think, you know, it'd be
great if he becomes Orthodox. But you know, we're just
dealing with people who don't know anything about philosophical discourse.
Jordaine ten dollars, Thank you for answering. I think this
is just scam Shamou being slimy because he's been online
for years and as soon as he leaves Rome for
Orthodox he becomes a heretic. The guys are attacking him
are a humanists. Yeah, I mean, Sam scam Shamou is
the actual heretic. Here H Brozie ten dollars. By the way,
us Kai and I are going to be doing a
pretty lengthy refutation of scam Shamou tomorrow. H Brazi ten
dollars celeby Whiteberk can confirm this. I was cooking all
of the Brazilian spurgs in the Catholic chat during the
backlash appearance. Oh, when I was on with the tradcats. Yeah,
they kept accusing you of being scared to talk about things.
Yeah that's I mean, that's all they had, Like, they
don't have anything on me other than stuff. It's not
even true. But look, man, if people want to be dummies,
you know, eventually you start to realize, like, uh, if
people want to fail and they want to be dumb dumbs,
they can go do that. I'm not going to waste
my time and energy for people who actually need what
we talk about. And if they don't see that and
can't see that, that's not my problem. Susie Hickson, five dollars.
This has made my day. I badly need your laughs.
Thank you Jay in the chat. Well, thank you Susie Hickson.
You are a new super chatter. I don't recognize you.
Welcome to the Jim Jones cult over here. I love audio.
Ten dollars. Where is your afterlife funko pop? That is
an interesting question. I don't know what it means, but
I like it. I me mine two dollars. The Cult
of the Tuk. They're all wearing one cards. Oh wait,
he said, unmute, we saw that. Uh mkg seven Canadian.
This Mahdi cult leader is perfect for TikTok, just based
on the way that he speaks. I wonder if he
will pop off harder than Billy Carson's alien crystal content. Dude, probably.
I mean TikTok is just like the You're right, it's
the perfect venue for micro cults. Nathan Slippy, we need
Pope Randy Balls. That's a good idea. Publius. Have you
seen the Palmeron Catholic Church? I have known about it
for many many years, all the way back two thousand
and seven. I think John Zimmer fifteen dollars. Here's to
show good faith that so called elites that is us
quote people's class a ninety nine percent reduction in p
from y'all and then we'll go from there. I don't
don't know what that means, but thank you. John Kevin
two dollars. What's a war Thunderer's ten dollars? The Mahdi
claimant is funded by London. Oh. Interesting, he promotes skittles,
gnosticism es so terrorism. Oh I'm not surprised about that.
But war Thunderer, can you demonstrate or show me where
or how he You know that he's funded by London.
I don't doubt you. I just always like to see
and would like to document it. Jordan Deardorf, Jay, we
need a Jay and Candice show or a Jay and
Ian Carroll show. Petition them with me. Well, like I
told you, guys, any show that you want me on,
if you go mention it, then it starts to stick
in their heads. And I think that to remind you guys,
we have multiple big interviews and big podcasts coming up
in the next month. This is going to be a
huge month, possibly our biggest month.
Speaker 8: We have.
Speaker 1: Ruslan, We have Pierre's Morgan, Peers Morgan Monday, I forgot
let me rephrase that. I'm trying to think of it
in order. Monday, Piers Morgan. This is supposed to happen.
Cross your fingers right, Monday, Piers Morgan panel. So we'll
see how that. I don't know who's on the panel.
It's gonna be interesting, and uh, you know, I gotta
I gotta play it cool and uh do it just right,
you know what I mean? Because I gotta be sassy,
but I gotta also uh be cool, because number one,
we don't want to anger peers, but we also want
to have the right degree of sass to make the
panel discussion clickable, you understand. So we got to see
how that's. I gotta play it right, y'all pray for
me to play it right. I gotta I gotta sail
between Scylla and Charybdis on Peers. Okay, Then we got Ruslan.
I don't know how Ruslan wants to set it up.
I don't know if it's gonna be me and him
just chatting. He might throw a curveball and bring somebody
in you know what I mean, I don't know what
to say. I might show up and like what have
like that Gavin Ortland shows up. I don't think that
will happen because I don't think. I think Gavin Ortland
is like I would never enterte. I think he's one
of those. I don't want anything to do with that
dire person. He's so evil, right, I think he's I
think he's one of those. I'm not sure, but I
wouldn't be surprised if I walk in there and we
got like a you know, a curveball. But even if so,
I'm not worried about it. I'm happy to pop on there,
and you know, if Gavin Ortland's there, that's fine. And
it may just me be me, be me and uh
ruse one talking about who knows what?
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Then we got Tripoli, we may have Jamie Kennedy podcasts again.
Then we got whatever podcast me and Jim Bob debating
not so aerudite, and then the Chicks or whatever okay.
Then we got Hodge okay. Then we got Me versus
apostate Prophet. I'm gonna debate ridvon I'm debating Rid Vaughn
on Western intelligence funding for isn il Q. Ok. Okay,
then we got the timcast debate. Okay, me versus Tim
Gordon versus lore Lodge, the Freemason, Methodist Protestant, I kid
you not. Okay, we got a huge This is the
next six weeks is going to be just jam packed. Bro.
But guys, keep in mind Ap is also debating Andrew
in a few days. Actually, let's see when that is.
For those that don't know, everybody is asking me, are
you debating ap on Zionism? No, No, that's him and
Andrew's debate. I'm debating him on specifically the question of
Western intelligence funding for and al Kainda. Now, I'm gonna
be honest with you. I know that very well. I
have all the books. Somebody said, oh you got to
get by the way, whoever recommended to the Max Blumenthal book.
I appreciate it. I actually got it. I'm several chapters
into it. It is really good and it does have
a lot of details that the other books in that
domain that I've read, Mark Curtis's book, Dreyfus's book, Golden
fitzger Old's book. This is just more ammo, more stuff
that's going to be great. So I'm really happy that
somebody actually finally was willing to debate a geopolitical, you know,
CIA type of topic. It's like, good grief, dude. I've
been wanting to debate that for years, and I've been
debating you know, goober Muslims for damn seven years, and
I'm just thankful. I'm happy finally somebody's going to debate
me something other than this you know, freaking Islamic dilemma
and all this just guber nonsense.
Speaker 13: Man.
Speaker 1: I'm so tired of the atheist debates. I'm so tired
of Muslim debates like I now still do it, but
it gets old, dude. Imagine debating. I've been debating in
the atheist positions since two thousand, so I got into
tag into a pre suth in two thousand, ninety nine,
two thousand. It was like twenty five years of atheist debates, dude,
and I've never heard an atheist debate or argument any
different than what I heard twenty five years ago. Right now,
let's see, I know he put up by the way,
the Crucible will also put up this saying of where
they had their melt down on the Crucible. I don't
know if you guys saw this, but that actually does
act scam shamou and leather Daddy Alibright had a meltdown
on the Crucible which was pretty amusing. So you can
check that meltdown out right here if you want to
go watch that. Every time I want to put a
link is precisely when the stupid thing freezes up. So
there we go. Here's their meltdown when Andrew made fun
of them. But let's see, I know they had a
page up for here we go here it does right here.
So the debate is two days from now, and that's
going to be a big one. I think they're doing
it at a university, aren't they University of North Carolina.
So there's the link for that debate right there. Now.
Somebody said, did you prep Andrew? I'm not directly prepping Andrew.
I talked to Andrew a little bit about it because
I pointed out, like what AP's position is going to
be in terms of modern geopolitical nation state of Israel.
I don't know exactly how far they're going to go
into theology. So your question, Jordaine says, have you prepped
Andrew for that debate? Scripturally? AP works with David Wood,
and that will put him at a disadvantage. It's uh,
I think Posh is doing more of the prepping in
this regard. But I have talked some to Posh, but
I don't really know what. I don't know what how much?
What am I trying to say here? I don't see
what even David Wood could bring to the table. Uh
that would in any way defend biblically Zionism. I mean,
it's just kind of silly, honestly, Ian Scott five dollars?
What is going on with that oh three O G
guy on Instagram? He's trying to constantly call you out?
Who's I don't even know who that is? O three
O G on Instagram?
Speaker 7: What what is that?
Speaker 1: O three O G? Oh three zero three? And then
an O see zero lessons? Are you talking about this?
So some dude with two thousand followers? Is that what
you're talking about? Calling me out? I don't even see
anything about me on here. This dude's talking about the
zero report with like a couple dozen followers. I have
no idea what this even is, man. Is that what
you're talking about? Guys? There's nothing more annoying. I'm not
trying to be mean to the super chatter. But it's
like when you guys ask me about like Rando people,
did you know that the guy with five hundred followers
shows that you're dumb? Like, there's no need to inform
me of this. I do not care. It's literally just
a giant distraction to what I'm usually involved in when
people feel the need to message me about Rando's talking
crap on whatever, Like, it's totally not worth anyone's time.
So if you want to comment in the chat Ian
Scott as to who this is, this guy doesn't even
follow me. I don't even know who he is or
what this is. What does he even call me out about?
Usually when people like try to call me out on Instagram,
not always, but usually they like they usually tag me.
But I've never seen or heard of this dude, So like,
did you hear what Rando dude on Twitter said about you?
He said you're dumb? Oh my gosh. Like my view
is like we always open it up. If people have
an actual disagreement that they want to address, they can
come call in. And we've done open call ins now
for seven years on Twitter, six years, six seven years.
So like if they don't call in.
Speaker 7: I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't care. Let's see what we got I gotta make.
I always forget. There's two different circuits super chat outlets here.
Vlad as mad ten dollars. Have you tried to reach
out to need got Yes, he will not debate. So
again all the guys that need good dot net says
he doesn't do debates, Well, give it three dollars. This
is amazing. I'm happy to see you getting out there
on mainstream outlets. You deserve it. It's frustrating to watch
people that don't know half of what you do make
the realms. Did you see the West Huff Peers interview.
I did not know Rich beyond measure twenty five dollars.
I've come to the full pork covenant. The bacon is
now solid. The bacon is now solid. Yes, just chant
that and your enemies will pass away. That's what we've
learned today. If we've learned anything in today's stream, it
is that if you faithfully chant the bacon is now solid,
your enemies will perish, and you will hear the lamentation
of their women, to hear the lamentation of the women
to steal what enemies five before you to hear the
lamentation of the women. Ap is talking about same Guru?
What do you guys? I don't know what your weird
speak is. Did you hear about z K two four
nine three he talked about you? Ap is talking about
guru sod Guru? What is same Guru? I have no
idea what any of you were talking about. I feel
like you guys are all just trolling me today with
like rando, like did you hear about comment kumor sixty
nine on Reddit? He posted a thread saying that you're
a dummy. What is your response to comment kumer sixty
nine on Reddit? All right, let's get back to.
Speaker 14: Sorry on over And So I don't have any religious impulses.
I don't feel the need to pray to a god
when things are going wrong. I don't feel the need
to be part of a spiritual congregation or something like this.
And so there's a part of me that feels I'm
kind of I have a disability in some way. Right
like people raised in modernity in atheistic societies, I just
they don't want they don't get to church because they
just don't want to, right, Most people like that.
Speaker 1: No comment comic coomer like a comment like like a
comment shooting off into like spugging off into the coming
into the oblivion contemporary competing on five dollars. It will
be interesting to watch ap and his views on Israel
if they evolve regarding Zionism now that he's Orthodox.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know who knows O three underscore
OG Oh my gosh, zero three underscore og on Instagram?
Oggie shall he be at Matisia? I don't see any
profile called zero three underscore OG?
Speaker 2: Do?
Speaker 1: I mean the only thing I see is zero lessons
O three O G. There's nothing that's O three underscore
OG unless you are getting it wrong and it's like
a it's not a zero, it's an O like like
oh three and then underscore zero G. But why, I
just like, like what why do people feel the need
to even like like tell you who on the internet
is saying something about you. It's just weird to me
that here's O three O G underscore. But that's a sportsman.
So again, dude, if it's not somebody with like a
million followers or like, I don't even care, so tain't
nothing ten dollars have you done any research into the
domestic Muslim organizations like Care and Yeah I have. It
comes up in the Robert Dreyfus's book that we covered
ten years ago. Ian Scott, you don't have to keep
sending me super chats. I mean, just tell me what
the guy is saying and give me the actual Can
you not link the profile? He has two million followers?
Come on, you guys are joking with me, right? Why
is it not coming up for me? I don't understand
what you're typing. This is like a Z like zero
three and then and then oh with like an oh
gee like nothing comes up under that. So I have
no idea what you guys are even talking. Are you
guys just trying to waste my time with this stupid shit?
He has twenty seven thousand followers. Okay, what is he?
I don't like what or who is he? Just link
me the damn thing. O four understore KR has challenged you,
why are you running from him?
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 1: The bacon is now solid. The bacon is now solid,
Brandy Chandler ten dollars. Ian Scott is trolling the whole time,
Brandy Shandler. If you can or should debate orthodox, here
we go Orthodox Muslim. I can see guys telling me
to debate these people every day, Like all they have
to do is call in to me. I'm not going
to chase down every freaking Muslim. His argument is that
the one God unbegotten, if he is Jesus, isn't God,
It's called the Father.
Speaker 7: I don't.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Ian, would do you want to give
him the link and I'll create a Twitter space and
he can call in a debate right now. I don't care.
Dallas Brown twenty dollars? Jay, have you covered the connection
between Yed Fellas. I don't know what that is Yed Fellas?
What is that Yed Fellas in the state of Israel.
I don't know what Yed Fellas is. Now, if you
do not find and track down and debate this random
profile you are running, you are scared. Let the bacon
hit the floor. Let the bacon hit the floor. Ian,
I need the actual link or more information, like there's
nothing comes up with three og. I don't understand what
is he calling me out about, Like, give me this
specific so that I can figure is he Muslim? Is
he a Protestant? What is he? Let's get him on,
Let's get a debate going dude or too d You
just called you out when you're going to debate.
Speaker 14: C three poll, eighty nine per cent of peoples another
don't go to church, and it's just because they just
don't want to feel there's no impulse to do so,
because to them, the universe isn't actually mysterious and there
isn't an after life worth worrying about. And so we're
stuck in this position where we're a bunch of materialist
consumers just existing on a rock in space for no
reason until we done.
Speaker 1: And you say that's bad.
Speaker 14: Yeah, I don't think that's great. I think that's I
think it's pretty pretty sour. And the atheists who came
before us viewed themselves as being very clever. There's a
huge amount of vanity and atheism the but particularly vanity
sort of Bertrand russells up to the crystal hitchins of
I'm smarter than you. That's why I'm an atheist. It's like, okay,
but look at the world you're making. And the world
you're making is actually one where everyone takes antidepressants. People
kind of hate the place in which they live, and everything,
the material quality of everything is declining like things aren't
getting better. The more atheist we get, things are getting worse.
When was the last time we built something impressive like
a cathedral? Could we have some nice buildings? We know,
we get the cheapest, like grave faced flat tenements that
people get to pack into now, because if we're just
human cattle, then any transcendent aspect of human life is
just it's a fancy at best, right, it's not important.
And so this has not been to the benefit of mankind,
I think, And yet I don't know if there's a
way to stop it. Do you feel do you just like, no,
it's a pretty pretty bleak yeah outlook on.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So somebody's I'm trying to get Redeem Zoomer now to
come argue, because so Luigi said, I've been watching dire
challenge Roman Catholic apologists for post Vatican two pre Vatican
two teaching. No one has agreed, will anyone step up?
And then Redeemed Zoomer sends a guy who looks like
he's about fifteen. It's like, you need to debate this guy.
Oh wait a minute, excuse me, I misread it. Redeemed
Dumer is saying the position is indefensible. I thought maybe
Redeemed Zoomer was gonna So there's a Roman calic dude
that's talking smack. I'm trying to find out which guy
it is. Anyway, that's some kid that's so stupid. That's
not gonna happen. Some fifteen year old dho's not going
to be able to fit in Roman Catholicism. I was
referring to certain organized crime, and yeah, I know about
all that stuff. I've known about this stuff, guys. I've
known about that stuff since two thousand and seven or eight. Now,
I don't know what you mean by yeed, but I
am aware of how certain Middle Eastern countries are actually
safe havens for organized crime. Alex Soto five dollars, Hey, Jay,
what's up man? I got to meet you in Tallahassee
at your live event. Appreciate all your work. Thank you man. Yeah,
we had a lot of fun at the Tallahassee event.
Shout out to all the guys that came out and
the two ladies. I think we had two ladies present.
Would if you open the debate, Alex O'Connor, Guys, I've
tried forever to debate these people. Of course, I'm open
to debate ox O'Connor. You're not gonna get Alex O'Connor
to debate me, that's the thing. Unless you just keep
harassing him endlessly. I don't know, would you. I would
be interested to see you react to his video with
Rhett and the guy from reht and link wildlife Christianity.
We must bring him to the truth. I'll take a
look at it. The greatest mathematician Jeff Goldblum from Jurassic
Park asked the ethical questions regarding science exactly. Even Jeff
Goldbloom science man is more proficient in science than these dudes.
That's pretty funny, Nate Planica five dollars. I wanted to
thank you for helping me come to orthodoxy. You're worth
is very informative, it's hilarious. You're uniquely encouraging those for
those who seek truth. I pray that God blesses you
and your family as you bless all of us lay peeps. Well,
thank you, man. Appreciate that I'm just a crazy internet
joke man, That's all I am. I caught him att.
I wish that the Mahdi guy's name was actually Yakub. Also,
I'm watching all this from my car and it shows
this on my screen as track number six out of
sixty six, then you should immediately become a numerology schiitzo
and lose your mind. That's confirmation proof that the orbs
have told you what's really going on. Vegan skills two dollars,
gay British once once and needs a chill by the
way to Ian Scott, tell the guy to come debate.
How's that if? What was his name? O? Three og?
If O three og would like to come on a
stream right now or later on Twitter space, we can
have a debate. How's that? Would he like?
Speaker 3: That?
Speaker 1: Is that was he?
Speaker 8: Is?
Speaker 1: He wanting the attention so bad that he wants an
impromptu debate that I'm running from a guy I've never
even heard of. Let's do it, but I want to
know what I'm running from. I don't even understand what
this guy's position is. David the Channel Unheard posted a
debate with philosopher Reynard Chemick. Have you heard it now? Guys?
I don't keep up with or see like random. I
just don't know. Man, No, I've never seen that person.
Three seven three seven three dollars The Antichrist is here.
He's replacing Jesus. He's wanting to offer early salvation and
mimicking Theosis through Ai. The false prophet is also here.
The seven year tribulation started. I think that's very presumptuous
to think that you know those things. But thank you
for your super chat. Brendon Turner. Five dollars. I attended Vespers.
I met another guy at church through online apologetics. I
found it mostly through you. He came through Andrew. This
is a win for the guys. keV Dog five dollars.
Get these clowns the truth to their faces. Give these
clowns the truth of their faces. Christ is King person
seven through seven. The Antichrist is clear. So you sent
that twice. L RJ. Atlanta ten dollars. Would schismatic, true
and genuine Orthodox be considered new divine revelation? I don't
know about that. I've noticed the themes in their innumerable
online videos. I think I don't keep up. I have
no idea what they're saying, but it could easily lend
to a cult, not occult, but a cult out of
tude and mentality. Many of the people in those circles
and groups are have mental problems. And I'm not saying
it in a mean way. I'm saying that they actually
have mental problems. Vegan Skill three dollars gay British. Ron
Swanson needs to chill.
Speaker 12: You know, I feel as though science over because I
was exactly the same. I used to love watching Dawkins.
I loved watching Hitchens as well, and even you know
today with Alex O'Connor, and you know, people like that debating.
Although Alex O'Connor has become an agnostic through his consistent
I would call it searching personally, do you feel like
you're searching?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 14: No, I don't feel like I'm missing something. Well, yeah,
the problem is if you're approach in the consequentialous manner,
not only do you kind of miss the purpose of religion.
God's meant to be the font from which i've thing springs.
So God is a fundamentally deontological concept that precedes all things.
So trying to reconstruct God from the consequences, well, it
is to suggest that he's actually not the well spring
from which everything comes anyway, So the actual attempt itself
is self defeating. So you just can't do it. So
if the consequences are bad, and God is the wellspring
from which everything comes. You would have to conclude that
God made it this way purpose to challenge us, to
test us. And this was the thesis that people throughout
the Middle Ages had because life in the Middle Ages
was really tough, really tough. A lot of people really
really suffered, and the amount of human suffering seemed just
incomprehensible and couldn't understand why a love and God would
want Well.
Speaker 1: I mean, what's wrong with suffering? If the universe is nothingness?
I mean, really doesn't matter, right, So Ignacio Laios two dollars,
there's an orb chilling buy your hair. There you go,
my profithood has been status has been proven. Christopher Scott
ten dollars. What's up dog? Thanks man, appreciate that. Welcome everybody.
We're having fun tonight. Somebody said that three og is
a rando conspiracy atheist. I doubt he will debate. Well,
those are sometimes the funnest people to debate. So go
tell this person whom I literally cannot find on Instagram.
It's actually bothering me that I can't find the freaking profile.
Can you send me the actual handle? Why could no
one send me the handle so I could actually find
the dude, because nothing comes up under that handle. Put
the actual link, dude, Give me the link to his
Instagram and I will go and invite him to debate tonight.
Just drug me nuts, dude. And who picks such a
stupid ass handle that you can't No one can find
the freaking handle. It's been thirty minutes trying to figure
out what his handle is. Okay, well, if Ian Scott
is trolling, I'll just ban and Scott because it's not
even a real profile. Okay, thank you, dude, said Instagram.
And now you're giving me his Twitter handle, so DC,
so some idiot I've already blocked. Who Okay, so this
is like an Adam Green follower. Oh my gosh, this
is so stupid. Well will you debate random pigan two two, three, three,
four five eight. I think I actually asked some of
these goobers already to come to debate, and they wouldn't
do it. So I don't see anything on this guy's
profile even remotely. It's just a bunch of like schizo
conspiracy stuff. This is what you guys are like wanting
me to go deal with. It's like this guy gets
one reply to his tweets. So yeah, this is a
real oppressing person with three hundred followers.
Speaker 7: With like no.
Speaker 1: So it's he's not even on Instagram, but you're saying
that maybe he's got a different profile on Instagram. Why
will you debate Adam Green Pagan follower number four four
three two five? Why are you scared? Why are you
scared to debate him? It's really weird too. It's like
even when I've done multiple Pagan debates and these guys
are actually two tiers below the Pagans I debated, Okay,
Ian Scott can come debate. I don't care Ian you
want to come debate. You're trying to link me up
debating all these idiot low tier Pagans. I mean, how
many times does the same debate have to happen? Like
if I've debated Bogglor Dave and I debated who is
the Apollo Sun worship guy? What was his name? Mark Brahman?
Remember Mark Brahman? Can no one just link the Instagram profile?
Like why can you not link the profile? I can
look at Instagram like anyone who just link it? Let
me see if I can try it that way. And
by the way, who actually thinks this guy is really
gonna come to debate anyway? Even if we do track
down his freaking instagram are water bye from here O
three O G. Nothing comes up but zero lessons. Uh,
this has gotta be the same guy. NASA exposed satellite
exposes the truth Earth's pole shift. Dude, You want me
to debate an Earth pole shift guy? I mean, are
you serious? Ian bro? This is dude, just don't even
be in this audience. Man, this is this ship is
too stupid for me to even deal with. Let's see
what he says about Saint Patrick. This gotta be the
same guy because he's got like schizo weather tracking posting lies.
Is it this guy? Tell me visit this guy and
see if he wants to come debate this guy