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Speaker 1: It is the Big twelve sec breakdown Tyler Hills Towns,

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which is here with you with a comforting against the

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well get both the Big Twelve and lest these conferences.

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It is Championship Week where we will figure out what

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the field looks like for He's second ever twelve team

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college football Playoff. And we begin as we do each

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and every week, with our hot takes, and tom My

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hot take this week where I'm gonna go, I'm gonna

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head to Alabama. And my hot take that I'll go

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with with this week with the Crimson tide, tom is

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that I don't think Alabama is a lot to make

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the college football Playoff as everybody thinks they are. Right now,

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here's what I'm saying here. Hear me out on this, folks.

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So yes, they did jump Notre Dame in the rankings

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this week, which made absolutely no sense whatsoever. And the

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committee chair Hunter yours Check from Arkansas, who's just a

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moron by the way, he comes out and says, yeah,

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we really like that fourthd down call by killing de

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Boor against five and seven Auburn. Well, Notre Dame blows

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out four wins Stanford, That's why we bumped them.

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Speaker 2: Up.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Tim, I think there's a decent chance

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they get beat pretty bad by Georgia, and then you

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look at just those other teams, like the Miami's the

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Byus of the world, especially if BYU gets a win

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this week or keeps it close, you know, Notre Dame

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and all that. Like if Bama embarrasses themselves, which could

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happen on a neutral field at the very end of

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the season before going to the playoff, and then you

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also have that bad loss to Florida State to start

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the season. I mean, I know the conference championship games

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aren't supposed to penalize you, but I think that everybody

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needs to proceed with caution. I think Bama's getting a

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little too much credit. As our friend Tim Brandon would say,

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the pure playoff privilege, the PPP certainly applies to the

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Crimson Tide. I think, Tom, I think everybody is feeling

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a little too confident about Bama. They're getting too much credit,

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which shouldn't really surprise anybody.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think. I don't think they should. And

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what's the spread on that game?

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Speaker 1: The spread all that game, folks of the Alabama Georgia

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game is Georgia two and a half.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I mean, yeah, if Georgia goes and just laser

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kana asswhip down, which is not out of the realm

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of the possibility, in my mind, I could see this

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is not a Nick Saban team anymore. They're not. I'm

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not saying that they're bad or anything or they just

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I don't think they have the mental forty two to

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maybe not get blown out right by all means they

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could win. But I think you're right, it's time to

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slow the role on Bama here for a second. You know,

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slow that role tie just a little bit. And if

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they were to, you know, get the doors blown off

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of them, I mean, could they could have bad loss

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against Georgia. Could that push them out of the playoff?

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think that possibility becomes very real. But like you said,

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pure playoff privilege, Tim Brando, Oh.

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Speaker 1: I'll give you an example. Top Ole Miss was left

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out of this game by type breakers, and we'll talk

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about their situation in a moment, But you talk about

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the pure playoff privilege the PPP. If an ole Miss

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team without Lane Kiffin this week was in the SEC

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title game and got blown out by Georgia. They're sitting

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at home guarantee.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it would be the same thing that happened

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with Florida State. Yes, when Jordan Travis got injured. Yeah.

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the jersey, yeah, they would be they'd be finished.

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Speaker 1: How about you, Tom Where do you want to go?

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Hot tech wise?

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Speaker 2: I mean you know where we're going. Uh, we gotta go.

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We gotta go to Stillwater. Baby. What Eric Morris did

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in the last week, he's he was coaching the game

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against Temple, which we all knew they were gonna win

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that game, but that was to get into the American

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Championship game against Tulane this Friday. He's got he's dealing with,

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you know, trying to tell his players, Hey, I'm not

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going to be the coach, but I'm still gonna be around.

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still Water for a while if they beat too late

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on Friday, and he's gonna continued coaching North Texas. But

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in the background, Oklahoma State had like six commits for

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early Signing Day. At one point that we talked about

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boy that used I didn't realize he played a broken

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arrow for Katie Jones before he went to Jinks.

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Speaker 1: John you know you're running back Keewan Jones. And for

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context folks, he's the one that Adrian Peterson replaced.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, that's interesting. Yeah, man, time flies, but he was, uh,

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he was gonna be at KU And you know another

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commit when when Gundy was fired at Jabari Thornton, he

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committed to North Texas. So Eric Morris seemingly just brings

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in a whole hole with him. OSU ends up getting

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fifteen signed on on Wednesday, all three stars, but they

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for for for their class, So I'm pretty amazed. It

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all kind of broke down and shuck out just real quick.

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the seams of Oklahoma State's got this guy, Oklahoma State's

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offering this guy and what seemed like a a I'm

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not calling a bad signing class, but six commits, it

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wasn't looking too good. After everybody decommitted. He kind of

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made the best of it, and I'm really shocked on

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how just quick on the ball that that Eric Morris

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and uh you know whoever's behind the scenes for them

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is working in real time to to lay the foundation

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O Sue for the next year. So as a fan

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and you know someone who writes about him, really shocked

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and really happy, and I couldn't really ask for much more.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they've Moore seems to be making a statement, been

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very aggressive already with decisions he's made to this point,

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and what his assembling there and still water. I think

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it's very fascinating what's going on there. Tom. Let's talk

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about the Big twelve and then the SEC playoff picture

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will begin there where things stack up the Big twelve

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side of things, Texas Tech at four. Meanwhile, you have

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cracks the top twenty five at twenty one, Arizona State

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falls out after losing to Arizona. So this playoff committee,

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by the way, is a bunch of morons. So maybe

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things could change, but no likelihood. I think the scenario

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some wiggle room even if they were to lose to BYU,

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even if they don't look great, they can say, hey,

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we beat this team by three scores or whatever it was,

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and they probably should be head of Alabama. OU's got

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five top twenty five wins against FBS opponents, which is

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the most of any team in the country. I don't

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have a problem with OU being ahead of BYU, and

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it sucks for BYU that they are not giving the

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credit that they deserve, that they are not one of

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the If you're a playoff privileged, they still have a

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chance to earn their way in. You beat Texas Tech,

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you win the conference, you're in the playoff, and Texas

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but you still control your own destiny and that's something

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a matter of your own hands here. If you're b yu.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, are they gonna beat Tech? Hard to say.

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want to play on. I've seen crazier things happen, but

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RG three route on BYU by any means.

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Speaker 1: Oh that was an that was an all time tack.

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not know what Tom is referring to. I'm glad Tom

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brought this up. Robert Griffin, IID Fox Sports college football

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analyst says, meanwhy you currently not considered a lock for

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the college football playoff is Christian persecution? One problem? RG

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three who said Mormons were Christians?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Only RG three.

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Speaker 1: And not to get on a religious dange of town.

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say Mormons are Christians too. Christians never try to say, well,

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Christians are Mormons too, right.

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Speaker 2: Now, it doesn't work that way. A square is a square,

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but what are these like a rectangles? A square but

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a square is not a rectangle. Yeah, it's like that.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know. I don't know if it's

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like a sigh up against me. But all my Snapchat

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ads have been Hi, can we bring you a gift?

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gift you got for me? And like I'm going to

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bring a copy of the Book of Mormon.

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Speaker 1: I've been getting a ad on Instagram of like these

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two hot blonde Mormon missionaries.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, well you can visit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll keep taking a visit, yeah, Ryan.

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Speaker 2: Instead you get like some some dorky guy riding the

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bicycle from uh northern Idaho knocking at your door.

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Speaker 1: Right, I wore the Mormon underwear for nothing exactly.

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Speaker 2: I thought.

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Speaker 1: I thought I was about to get my own damn

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planet here. What happened?

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Speaker 2: You know? Like I was about, I was, I don't

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tangent here. But you know, I always thought it was funny.

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picked for their mission, you know, two years wherever they

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like the Caribbean or you know, some tropical island or

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somewhere cool, and it's like God has chosen you to

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you gotta might have somebody that it's like just God

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hates you. He's sending you to Gary, Indiana, Gary, Indiana,

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Speaker 1: At least they got.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. They got a Taco Bueno now in

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they got they got Broms they don't have. They don't

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have Broms in Provo. I don't think no they should though,

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there should be a Broms everywhere.

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Speaker 1: The one of my favorite, my favorite like cartoon show

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of all time, King of the Hill. One of my

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absolute best episodes was when Bobby somehow ended up going

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to uh the high school. He left uh Roger Stauback

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Middle School to go to Tom Landry High School and

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friends they got Taco Boino into high school. Back to

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the playoff rankings. That was interesting.

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Speaker 2: He was gonna get left out because they don't have

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a Taco Boyo. No Brahms. Christian persecution Texas Town, Tom

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Speaker 1: Are Are you confident that they're in no matter what

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Speaker 2: I think so. I mean their they're seasons pretty complete.

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to ten in just like a you know, crime against

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humanity type game, still gets them a top four seed.

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college football playoff. But I must remind sark that Texas

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Right now, there'd be no discussion here. Well, Oklahoma scheduled

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Ohio State's biggest rival in Michigan, and they played an

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even tougher schedule in the SEC, and OU is firmly

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in the playoff and they're not. So I don't want

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to hear from Texas. You lost to Florida. That's why

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you're not in the playoff. No one failed. I'm sorry

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for you, your losers.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they should schedule a game in Hawaii this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, go get that thirteenth data point. Yeah, go play Miami,

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Go play you know, Vandy. So with that, oh Afred mentioned,

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Vandy's at fourteen doesn't look great for Vandy either, which

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their resume is right up there with the other two

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loss teams. But they're not a part of the pure

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playoff privilege, so they're uh, they're on the outside. So

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with that of the SEC teams, Tom Georgia, I do

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think they are playing for a first round by against

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Bama here. If they lose, I think they fall out

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of the top four. Ole Miss Charlie Weist Junior sticking

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around as offensive coordinator to call plays there. We'll talk

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about the lane situation here in just a moment, but

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the committee moving them up after everything that's on on

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Ole Miss is in and I don't think that they're

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going to get bumped up to the top four. But

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I don't think they're gonna lose a home game either.

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and M at seven, similar situation. I don't think they're

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going any higher. I don't think they're going any lower. Now, Oh,

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you let me stop there for a second time. This

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is where OU fans should be pissed the hell off.

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A possible scenario that could shake out that I hate

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to inform you of folks. I know you beat Bama

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head to head and it was just a month ago

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and it was in Tuscaloosa. But if Bama beats Georgia

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and wins the SEC, don't be surprised if the Committee

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says the SEC champion Bama, they gotta be in the

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top eight and hosting a home playoff game. They already

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showed they don't care about head to head with how

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they've treated Note Dame in Miami. Am I saying that

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it should happen. No, I'm not advocating for at all,

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but I'm saying it's a very real possibility. They've already

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for some god knows what reason, bumped up Bama ahead

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of Notre Dame last week. What's to stop them from

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bumping them past Ou if they beat Georgia and give

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them the home playoff game instead of Oklahoma. I think

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that's possible.

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Speaker 2: So if you're an OU fan, you're all on the

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You're on the dogs.

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Speaker 1: Oh o, you fans need to be rooting for Georgia

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this week.

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Speaker 2: We like that, uh that insurance commercial where the employees

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barking at his boss all in on the dogs this

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weekend for you? Yes, that would be a That would

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be a damn shame, wouldn't it. I don't even I'm

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not even an OU fan. That would be a croc

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of shit. Honestly, that would see what that would be?

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I mean, you know, I think I think it's cool

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that oh you get, As much as it pains me

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to say, I would love for a home playoff game

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for Oklahoma State. That would be awesome. And if I

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was an OU fan and they have a home playoff game,

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I'm taking out a second mortgage and buying a ticket.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, and Tom, I don't even mind the idea of

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oh you rematching with Bama. Like some people say, man,

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they beat them head to head, they deserve better than

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having to play them again open the first round. I

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don't even have a problem with that. I would, however,

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have a problem with them taking away the first round game,

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especially if it ends up they have to go to

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tuscaloosion of all places too.

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Speaker 2: That would be that would be as bad as the

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twenty eleven twenty twelve BCS Bama LSU rematch game. I

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would hope that they would schedule something different just for

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you know, we've already seen that episode. We don't need

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to see that again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. Uh. Texas and Bandy, let's touch on

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them real quick. Tom Sark trying to be trying to

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be political and do it can there's just no pathway.

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I mean there's there's I don't think we anticipated this

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many one and two lost teams and Texas. I think

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a year like last year where there was three loss

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teams in the conversation, Texas might make it in or

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they'd be very close. But there's just there's just too

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many teams to stand in their way. And Vandy they

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have a legitimate case, but they are they're just on

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the wrong end of the pure playoff privilege. That's that's

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what it comes down to. Like, I don't see a

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path for Texas or Vandy either one.

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Speaker 2: No, no, And you know, I was really rooting for

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Vanderbilt too. They did they did just flip a Georgia quarterback,

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so at least they got a consolation prize there. I

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suppose maybe maybe not this year, but uh, I mean

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all signs are kind of pointing up for Vandy. To

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be honest, I think if you're a Vanderbilt fan, yeah,

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you're kind of like, damn, we were that close. It

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wasn't like Vanderbilt was about to win the whole thing either.

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Speaker 4: So so.

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Speaker 2: Still though, that is that is a that is a

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tough out. And Texas I don't feel sorry for though,

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not at all.

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Speaker 1: They lost three games, including Florida.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then they just they're just trying to wind

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their way in there. Just Oh, we're Texas, though, what

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do you mean we're not gonna play.

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: We have in every commercial? What do you mean you

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can't play an arch manning commercial during the college fall playoffs?

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But we're not in it?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 2: Who do you think that first Ohio State game?

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Speaker 1: Who do you think is Drew Aller and Terry Crews, right.

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Speaker 2: I mean that first that first Ohio State Texas game

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of the season, that didn't even seem like that long ago.

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But uh, Texas is just struggling. Arch Manning was looking trash.

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And then every commercial it was just every every commercial

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break was just Arch almost every commercial. Yes, yes, the irony.

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Speaker 1: Uh, it's so good, it's so good. All right, let's

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talk Lane now, Tom Lane Kiffin going to LSU leaving

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Ole Miss. Uh, the grass isn't always greener. I understand

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why LSU is one of the top jobs in the country,

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but they got a good thing going. They got plenty

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of nil there, and you the money Ole Miss was

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willing to pay the same as LSU. And then on

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top of that, what you're working towards at LSU, building

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a championship contending team is what he already has at

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Old Miss. But I think that Lane knows it's not

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going to get any better than what he's at right

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now at Old Miss LSU. What they're doing this year

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at Old Miss, if everything goes right, he can do

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that every single year, if not more. We knew that

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if Lane was going to be successful at old Miss.

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He wasn't gonna be there a long time. He flirted

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with Auburn, he had flirted with Florida and all these

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other jobs. An LSU job came coming. He had a

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great run there. I mean this, this is who Lane is.

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You know, what's the saying like if if somebody shows

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you their true character, believe them. I mean every bridge

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he's been at his entire career, Like, uh, you know,

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should you feel bad for all miss? I mean to

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an extent, they're still getting to compete for a championship

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this year, But I mean this, it was never gonna

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end pretty. I mean despite ESPN dude a documentary just

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a month or two ago about the change man Lane

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Kiffen was. This is who he was all along, Like,

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it's he is. If you want to call him a

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villain or whatever it may be, I think Lane is

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actually good for the sport. He's the most entertaining reality

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star that we have right now. And this is par

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for the course.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you can't. It's like you can't blame a dog

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for being a dog. All right, That's just who he

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That's just who he is as a person. Uh you

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know what, for all the for all the mess and

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I don't know, well, I don't know what happened here,

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and I don't think it's being really talked about that much.

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Maybe just everything else going on in the Lane Kevin

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saga here is not being talked about enough. They crucified

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urban Meyer for having that old girl on his lap. Yes,

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they hug his ass out to dry. They they vanished

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urban Meyer to the fucking shadow realm. And bye God,

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all this stuff coming about Lane Kiffin. He can't even

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bring the dog with him, Juice.

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Speaker 1: Did you hear that? By the way, So Juice actually

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is not his dog.

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Speaker 2: It's just a prop for him.

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Speaker 1: It's just a pr He's got a handler and everything.

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Juice is not Lane's dog.

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Speaker 2: It's incredible. And then all these, you know, all these

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texts that are leaking. Then he's pretty much just banging

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all those the sarrostitutes as we used to call him. Yes,

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what like urban Meyer would have hung for less? What

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is no one's talking about that he's out here, Maybe

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because I don't know, it's not with his wife or

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like you know, his daughter goes or his daughter dates

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an L s U linebacker or whatever player. And that

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was that was a funny thing when that all broke

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when Old Miss played l Shue. But I mean, if

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that was my dad and I was like college age,

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Like he's he's banging girls his daughter's age. It's several

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of them.

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Speaker 1: Remember as Joey Freshwater Days, the fake name he had

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when he was Alabama's OC.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, what in the world, He's just like

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the Ludicrous song, like pimping all over the world. He's

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just pimping all over the SEC. Yeah, it's kind of incredible.

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Speaker 1: Actually, I would guess so LSU. You know, they won

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national titles with average head coaches like uh, you know,

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Les Miles and ed Orgern, Brian Kelly of course didn't

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didn't even come close. But if I were to predict Tom,

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this is how I think it's likely going to go

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for Lane Kiffin at LSU. Lane is good enough where

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they very well could win a national title with him there,

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But there is such a short leash they have and

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such high expectations every single year they want to be

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right up there with Georgia and Alabama that this will

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crater and crumble at some point. Lane Kiffin took this

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job knowing he is going to get fired. It might

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be three years from now, it might be five, might

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be ten years from now. But if I were to

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predict what goes on with Lane Tom, I would say

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he wins at a high level, but it will end poorly,

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just like all these jobs do with Lane Kiffin too.

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And maybe here's another possibility I'll even throw out there.

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He did coach in the NFL recently, I say recently,

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several years ago with the Raiders. There was already talk

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about him pairing up with Jackson Dart and all that.

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Of course that's not happening now. Who's to say that.

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Maybe after two or three years Lane says, yeah, now

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I want to go to the NFL, and he burns

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the bridge that way too, Like there is going to

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be a bad ending to this story at some point.

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I can't tell you when, though.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's just how it's gonna shake out. I mean,

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do you think if it all goes to plan, and

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I'm sure Eliss you would love this, does he win

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a national title in the next four years for LSU?

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Speaker 1: I would bet yes.

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Speaker 2: I think I think for LSU do as long as

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you get one out of him, right, obviously you want

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it every year. But I think in hiring and paying

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them all this money bringing him over. You're bringing him

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into at least get a natty, right, And I think

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if you get one out of him in five years,

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then honestly, that's pretty good return on investment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my costume ninety million dollars do it. But hey,

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Benner's hang forever exactly.

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Speaker 2: They could never take it from you can never take.

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Speaker 1: It from You can't give you the Reggie Bush treatment

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who played for Lane Kiffin. By the way, Tom the

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old miss into things. Pete Golding, I'll be frank, he's

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an ass coach. He's a terrible defensive coordinator. This was

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a awful reaction. This was the This was the girl

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that got dumped that grabs the next guy she sees.

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And that's what they do with Pete Golding is the rebound.

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And it's an awful choice. Uh. I mean they could

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had Joe Judge, the former Giants coach, was on that staff.

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Now Joe Judge is a bit of a moron too

473
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,319
if you saw what he did with the Giants, but

474
00:28:27,319 --> 00:28:29,119
NFL experience, and it would have been better than a

475
00:28:29,599 --> 00:28:33,079
Pete Golding anyway. Charlie Weist junior even like but no

476
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:39,319
they go Pete Golding, Tom, I would guess, like you know,

477
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,079
they're they're lacking so much offensive staff, so much so

478
00:28:43,319 --> 00:28:45,359
that they had to get Charlie Weiss to come back

479
00:28:45,839 --> 00:28:49,920
from LSU to go call place for the playoffs. I

480
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,160
don't think Pete Golden is a very good coach at all. Uh.

481
00:28:53,559 --> 00:28:57,880
You know, I love I Love shambleis their quarterback. But

482
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,400
there's so much turmoil there. They're gonna be what the

483
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,519
six or seven seed, So that means that they will

484
00:29:04,599 --> 00:29:10,920
play the what ten or eleven seed if if they

485
00:29:11,119 --> 00:29:19,440
end up somehow playing Notre Dame guaranteed loss, now they

486
00:29:19,519 --> 00:29:21,680
could luck out and get one of these group of

487
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,880
five teams they end up playing. Uh that's uh, that's

488
00:29:26,119 --> 00:29:29,880
a possibility, and maybe that's how they advance. But but

489
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,119
unless I would put it this way, tom Ole, miss,

490
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,640
I don't. I don't feel good about their future with

491
00:29:37,759 --> 00:29:40,400
Pete Golding. And then as far as their playoff hopes go,

492
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:46,640
there they are just hoping and praying that they somehow

493
00:29:47,279 --> 00:29:50,799
end up playing the ACC championor group of five team

494
00:29:50,799 --> 00:29:52,559
because I think that's their only shot for a playoff

495
00:29:52,599 --> 00:29:53,119
win right now.

496
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you think all the all the lane Kipp

497
00:29:58,119 --> 00:30:01,279
and stuff and the him holding out and making it

498
00:30:01,359 --> 00:30:03,960
a big show. You think it's derailed their train a bit.

499
00:30:04,079 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: Uh, Oh, absolutely, I do, no question.

500
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of I feel like Lane Kifvin just

501
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,759
making it such a big drama and doing all this,

502
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,359
I feel like I kind of feel bad. I don't

503
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,559
feel bad for Old Miss. There they cheated OSU back

504
00:30:19,599 --> 00:30:23,440
in the day, so uh, and I got to take

505
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,440
a trip to New Orleans and watch I can't remember

506
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:31,160
that receiver's name he played for the Vikings but dismantle

507
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,359
OSU and the Sugar Bowl. Turns out they were cheating anyway.

508
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,559
But so I don't feel necessarily bad for him, But

509
00:30:36,599 --> 00:30:38,920
I do feel bad for those kids that worked hard

510
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,839
all year and had a great year for Old Miss,

511
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:46,200
and then your coaches run arounds and Jackson, your whole

512
00:30:46,279 --> 00:30:49,119
year now kind of derails your train a bit on

513
00:30:49,279 --> 00:30:50,880
what you had going and what you built for the

514
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,440
whole season. Am I surprised that lane Kivin would do that. No,

515
00:30:54,599 --> 00:30:56,720
he's just that, That's who he is, like we said prior,

516
00:30:56,839 --> 00:30:59,920
But it does kind of. I mean, that does suck

517
00:31:00,039 --> 00:31:01,599
for those kids play for Old Mess.

518
00:31:02,799 --> 00:31:07,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, not great. The other hirings that have gone on

519
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:11,880
over the last few days within the SEC TOM and

520
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,759
then we'll also talk about k State in a moment.

521
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,480
That one's a bizarre one. Uh. The SEC hirings an

522
00:31:17,519 --> 00:31:21,440
American Athletic Conference takeover of sorts. John summer All.

523
00:31:21,359 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 3: Goes to Florida, Golwich U goes to Auburn, and then

524
00:31:28,079 --> 00:31:32,759
we see Silverfield from Memphis go to Arkansas.

525
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,039
Speaker 1: Some are all, I think, I think that's a good

526
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:37,079
hire for Florida.

527
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:37,599
Speaker 3: Uh.

528
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,839
Speaker 1: And we'll talk more with Maddie Hudak and I'm moment

529
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,079
get her thoughts on John summer All, who's she's seen

530
00:31:43,519 --> 00:31:47,440
firsthand there at at Tulane. But Silverfield didn't really do

531
00:31:47,559 --> 00:31:52,000
that great at at Memphis compared to you know what

532
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,720
he what was handed to him. And like that's kind

533
00:31:56,759 --> 00:31:58,759
of a sign of how far Arkansas's falling that they

534
00:31:58,759 --> 00:32:00,839
have to settle for the head coach for Memphis when

535
00:32:01,279 --> 00:32:04,119
guys like you know, John Gruden were mentioned for that

536
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:10,920
job previously Auburn. You know you you followed Golwich I

537
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:15,119
can't even say his name right, thank you. You followed

538
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:16,519
him in depth because he was one of the finalist.

539
00:32:16,559 --> 00:32:19,559
Fill Calhomme State job. I don't think he's a bad coach,

540
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,920
but I think that's a tough situation that Auburn's in

541
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,759
for any coach to really succeed there. I I don't

542
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,400
know if the situation is too much for him to overcome.

543
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,799
Like of those of those three hiring summer role, is

544
00:32:34,839 --> 00:32:37,559
the one only one I really really like the other

545
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,480
ones I'm kind of milk toast about.

546
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think anywhere else Golis should have

547
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,519
been better off. It's Auburn's just kind of like a hole.

548
00:32:46,599 --> 00:32:49,079
It's kind of like you and you take, you know,

549
00:32:49,319 --> 00:32:51,599
one step forward, two steps back is kind of it

550
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,480
feels like at Auburn right now. I think it's going

551
00:32:54,559 --> 00:32:58,079
to take just a huge not not one called an

552
00:32:58,119 --> 00:33:01,519
overhaul of the program. But it's just the competition around

553
00:33:01,599 --> 00:33:04,359
you is so tough that it's just like you just

554
00:33:04,519 --> 00:33:06,960
keep coming back getting punched in the mouth. How many

555
00:33:07,039 --> 00:33:09,519
times can you get punched in the mouth? Uh? So

556
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,000
we'll see what what Golish is built, Like, you know,

557
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,880
he's built for this ship or not. But Silverfield Man, Arkansas,

558
00:33:17,119 --> 00:33:19,039
I feel like they wanted a Golish, or they wanted

559
00:33:19,119 --> 00:33:22,559
Eric Morris, or they wanted you know, they wanted a

560
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:26,000
bigger name and for them to have to settle for

561
00:33:27,079 --> 00:33:31,759
for you know, get the tail end of Memphis. It's just,

562
00:33:33,119 --> 00:33:37,519
you know, I think Arkansas kind of got a reality smack,

563
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:42,079
didn't they? All the fans that all were Arkansas. We're SEC.

564
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:47,480
You know, just because you're in the SEC doesn't mean anything.

565
00:33:47,559 --> 00:33:50,480
I mean, you're who did Kentucky get.

566
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:57,799
Speaker 1: Tvd Uh? The rumor is sounds like will Stein, the

567
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:03,039
Oregon coordinator who's from Louisville originally is the favorite to

568
00:34:03,079 --> 00:34:03,720
get that job.

569
00:34:04,359 --> 00:34:06,599
Speaker 2: I thought, I thought will Stein did take that job.

570
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: I can't even keep up anything.

571
00:34:10,079 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, he might have. I mean, but I mean, if

572
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,039
you're in Arkansas, I think I would have rather had

573
00:34:14,079 --> 00:34:14,599
will Stein.

574
00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:20,119
Speaker 1: Oh he did take he he you're already ahead of it.

575
00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:22,079
He's sorry. Taking the Kentucky job. Yeah, I can't even

576
00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:22,440
keep up.

577
00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:27,679
Speaker 2: I would have I would have taken will Stein over Silverfield, honestly, Yeah,

578
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:34,079
I mean I job, yeah, yeah, I mean yeah. You

579
00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:39,599
know Dylan Gabriel justin Herbert. I mean, he's run some

580
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,159
great offenses there, and you know, for Arkansas, you get

581
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:47,119
Silverfield's okay, you know it's and I mean.

582
00:34:47,119 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: By the way Mark Stoop's getting fired or Forester's on,

583
00:34:50,679 --> 00:34:54,960
whatever it was. I don't I don't feel bad. Uh,

584
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,559
he'd done a very good job there, but I think

585
00:34:57,599 --> 00:35:02,079
things had kind of run its course. Uh, they just

586
00:35:02,159 --> 00:35:06,559
weren't saying the last couple of seasons. And I think

587
00:35:06,639 --> 00:35:10,800
Kentucky's a great job, Tom, because the standards, the expectations

588
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:16,119
aren't that high. But Mark Stoops wasn't even reaching the

589
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,280
low bar that he had set for himself.

590
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,639
Speaker 2: So yeah.

591
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:27,519
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, big twelve country one hiring that seems to be

592
00:35:28,519 --> 00:35:30,840
at the time this recording, is it a done deal

593
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:36,159
yet or we're very close to it? Anyway? Is the

594
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:44,119
announcement that the surprise retiring of Chris Kleiman at k State.

595
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,679
I guess there's some health issues within his family going on.

596
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,920
He's only fifty eight years old, and Colin Kleine is

597
00:35:52,039 --> 00:35:55,519
expected to be the next head coach at k State.

598
00:35:56,639 --> 00:35:59,000
Of course, Tom and I we saw him up close

599
00:35:59,039 --> 00:36:02,320
and personal for a number of years, as he was

600
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,239
a great quarterback for KSE State, second in the Heisman

601
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:09,760
only to Johnny Manziel and then goes on and did

602
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,920
a pretty solid job as though see at KSE State

603
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,440
He's been a really good oc for A and M.

604
00:36:14,519 --> 00:36:16,800
The last couple of years we've seen Marcel Reid really

605
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,320
flourished and that offense look good. I think he's one

606
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:23,400
of the best young offensive mines in football. And Tom,

607
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:28,360
what this comes down to for me is KSE State

608
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:32,440
has seen some of their own coach directly against them

609
00:36:33,559 --> 00:36:37,719
and not be there. You think Lon Kruger at Oklahoma,

610
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,400
you think Brad Underwood at Oklahoma State. Now, of course

611
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:46,320
he's at Illinois, and here's Colin Klein, who's done a

612
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:50,639
great job. And I think that with this season not

613
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,800
going the way they wanted for Chris Cleman and Colin

614
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,199
Klein sitting there, I would guess. I don't have any

615
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:03,239
sources on this, but my inclination, Tom, is that Case

616
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:08,280
States said themselves, this isn't working with climbing we need

617
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,239
we cannot pass up on this chance to give Colin

618
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,840
Kline the job. And I don't even think on Klin

619
00:37:14,039 --> 00:37:16,719
might be their long term. This could be a stepping

620
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,719
stone for him because he's already left them once. Go B,

621
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,559
A and M. So see. But I do think it

622
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,000
was kind of an ego check of sorts from k

623
00:37:23,159 --> 00:37:26,360
State that we cannot lose this opportunity we have here,

624
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,559
and especially to unite the fan base, Like there's people

625
00:37:29,679 --> 00:37:33,119
kind of divided on Chris Climbon after Bill Snyder retired.

626
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,400
Now everybody's kind of all in there in Manhattan on

627
00:37:38,119 --> 00:37:38,639
Tong Klin.

628
00:37:39,679 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're absolutely right that they saw the

629
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,079
hype round callin Klein and he was interviewing here and

630
00:37:45,119 --> 00:37:48,079
interviewing there, and they're thinking, hey, we gotta, we gotta.

631
00:37:49,159 --> 00:37:51,440
One of these ships is gonna have to sail. And

632
00:37:52,639 --> 00:37:56,480
I don't necessarily blame them, I mean Climbing. You know,

633
00:37:56,639 --> 00:37:59,519
for a long time, he was the he was the

634
00:37:59,599 --> 00:38:02,920
ou beat her right, and he had some pretty solid

635
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,679
wins and pretty solid seasons in case they given, you know,

636
00:38:06,559 --> 00:38:07,320
given everything.

637
00:38:07,559 --> 00:38:08,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want a big twelve tile.

638
00:38:09,599 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, did more than Mike Gundy, damn

639
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:16,000
near pretty much. And for what it's worth, I mean

640
00:38:16,039 --> 00:38:19,519
he was a pretty solid coach. I think last season

641
00:38:20,199 --> 00:38:22,639
there was something going on with him and they thought,

642
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,920
is Chris Climbing in it? Like he's kind of is

643
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,360
he out of touch right now? And he addressed the

644
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,960
media and said something like no, everything's fine. You know,

645
00:38:30,079 --> 00:38:33,119
it just had some family things going on. But we're

646
00:38:33,119 --> 00:38:35,760
all we're we're good, We're good. I'm not going anywhere

647
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,639
for a long time. And then just about a year later, he,

648
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,199
you know, hangs it up. I think I wonder how

649
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,760
much they paid him and wanted them said hey, man, listen,

650
00:38:44,519 --> 00:38:46,880
we can't afford to miss out on call and Cline,

651
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:53,000
here's the bag. Thanks for everything. Best of luck to you. No, no, no,

652
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,239
no bad feelings, no burnt bridges here, but we got

653
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,840
this is what we got to do. Good first case

654
00:39:00,039 --> 00:39:03,719
eight though, to recognize that, hey, we have a chance

655
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,800
to get to get this guy. He's a hometown guy,

656
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:12,280
K State lights doing hometown things. Cal and Klimb back

657
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,519
in Manhattan. Uh, you know, all of a sudden you

658
00:39:16,679 --> 00:39:19,119
get two good coaches to be into the Big twelve.

659
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, it was different. It was different for them

660
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,639
with Colin Kline compared to Oklahoma State with Zach Robinson.

661
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,760
The fact that Colin Kline has only been a college coach.

662
00:39:29,159 --> 00:39:34,199
He's coached at k State, and uh, he knows how

663
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:38,119
all this works and has been successful everywhere. Compared to

664
00:39:38,199 --> 00:39:40,960
Zach Robinson, who isn't looking so hot with the Atlanta

665
00:39:41,039 --> 00:39:45,519
Falcons right now, he's never coached college football before. This

666
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,599
makes much more sense for k State to go to

667
00:39:49,679 --> 00:39:52,320
Colin Klein route compared to if Oklahoma State had gone

668
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:53,559
to Zach Robinson route.

669
00:39:55,199 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 2: And I think it's a lot going to be a

670
00:39:56,559 --> 00:40:01,079
lot better than you know, Schnyder junior in this case,

671
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,599
John Snyder. Yes, yeah, that's gonna be a lot better.

672
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:05,199
I think.

673
00:40:06,159 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about the games this weekend real quick.

674
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:13,960
Tom started with the Big Twelve Championship Texas Tech BYU

675
00:40:14,119 --> 00:40:18,840
and Arlington. I would say, in the modern era, in

676
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,800
the last twenty five thirty years, this is the biggest

677
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,400
game for either one of these schools period.

678
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,199
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, easily Texas.

679
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 1: Tech, Tom, I think I said this a while back.

680
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,960
That's a team that can win the national championship. Their

681
00:40:35,039 --> 00:40:40,320
only loss was without Baron Morton in a road game

682
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:44,840
at Arizona State against the defending Big Twelve champions. But

683
00:40:45,039 --> 00:40:47,760
they lost doing a close game, and then Arizona State

684
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,960
decides to look like a poverty program and their fans

685
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,199
stormed the field. I'm like, hey, you guys are the

686
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,360
rating Big twelve champions here, acts like you've been there before.

687
00:40:56,599 --> 00:41:02,239
I digress. But Texas Tech. I think they might be

688
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,280
the biggest challenger in Ohio State in all honesty, as

689
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,519
crazy as that may sound, because they look like they

690
00:41:08,599 --> 00:41:10,920
looked a part. They look like a complete football team.

691
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,760
This is their game to lose. Sataki is a fantastic coach.

692
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,079
He seems to be really happy turning down Penn State

693
00:41:18,159 --> 00:41:22,039
and all that. You know. Back Meyer is a very

694
00:41:22,079 --> 00:41:25,000
good quarterback. They got a good defense. I think that

695
00:41:25,159 --> 00:41:28,239
team's got a bright future. They are building something in Provo.

696
00:41:29,559 --> 00:41:32,360
But Saturday is not their day. I like Tech by

697
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:33,440
at least fourteen.

698
00:41:33,599 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 2: Tom Yeah, I mean BYU said a good season. They

699
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:43,559
haven't been talked about enough. I wouldn't, it wouldn't go

700
00:41:43,639 --> 00:41:48,679
as far as persecution, but they've They've quietly soldiered on.

701
00:41:49,079 --> 00:41:51,840
But yeah, I think you're right. It's not it's it's

702
00:41:52,599 --> 00:41:56,320
good year, but not their year it should be. I

703
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,360
think it's gonna be a good game. And Jones, I

704
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,800
want to say I saw that UH games sold out.

705
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,000
It's gonna be the biggest crowd for Big Top championship ever.

706
00:42:08,559 --> 00:42:10,639
It's gonna be. I mean, it's gonna be loud. It's

707
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,599
both sides. I mean, the Mormons are everywhere and Lubbock.

708
00:42:15,119 --> 00:42:17,519
I guess Lubbock to Dallas is kind of a drive, but.

709
00:42:18,159 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 1: Well there's a lot of tech fans just within Dallas too.

710
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,199
Speaker 2: You're gonna go have a doctor Prepper shootout for tech.

711
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,239
I might have to im what's that bar called Luckies?

712
00:42:29,079 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: Uh? That bar is uh? I call it the coin bar.

713
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:34,159
Speaker 2: The coin bar.

714
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:39,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, flip night you know. Uh, I took time there

715
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,719
one time. You you get your drinks and you flip

716
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,440
the coin Oh and uh, if you guess correctly, you

717
00:42:46,559 --> 00:42:51,280
pay a dollar a drink. Incorrectly, you pay full price.

718
00:42:52,519 --> 00:42:54,480
And that is the Texas Tech Bar of Dallas.

719
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 2: So that that's going on tonight is the time of

720
00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,239
recording is, isn't it? Yeah?

721
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:00,599
Speaker 1: I have to go to the board tonight.

722
00:43:00,639 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 2: Potentially we'll see.

723
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:08,599
Speaker 1: SEC Championship game Georgia and Alabama. I know Kirby's had

724
00:43:08,639 --> 00:43:11,639
his struggles with with Bama. I think he's got what

725
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,760
one win one t all time, and that was in

726
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,880
the National Championship. He's zero to two against Kaitlin de Boor.

727
00:43:17,559 --> 00:43:22,079
But Tom, I understand all of that. I'm not ignoring that.

728
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:27,599
But I look at Bama. The offensive line isn't very good.

729
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,880
They can't run the football. Ty Simpson hasn't played as

730
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,039
well as he did a month ago when he looked

731
00:43:33,079 --> 00:43:38,880
like a Heisman contender. I think Georgia looks very solid

732
00:43:41,519 --> 00:43:45,360
if I ignore what happened in that first game. All

733
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:49,920
signs point to Georgia winning this game. But if Bama

734
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,239
can play like they did the first time when they won,

735
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,440
Bama wins this. If Ty Simpson goes off, have a chance.

736
00:43:55,559 --> 00:43:58,920
But uh, that's all I'm looking at, Tom. It if

737
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,400
you're Bbama, you have to play almost identically to what

738
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,639
you did the first time. Type. It's gotta be Ty

739
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:05,960
Simpson against the world.

740
00:44:07,679 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. I mean, Georgia is gonna be tough,

741
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,039
and if Ty Simpson can play like he did, you

742
00:44:13,119 --> 00:44:18,280
know after the Florida State game, then I think Bama

743
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,000
does have a shot. But you know, I don't know

744
00:44:21,039 --> 00:44:23,360
if it's to the point of what Ty Simpson are

745
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,360
we gonna see here, because like you said, he hasn't

746
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,280
played well. It was late. But for for Bama to

747
00:44:28,639 --> 00:44:30,559
win this game, it's gonna have to be the Ty

748
00:44:30,679 --> 00:44:31,360
Simpson game.

749
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. I like Georgia. I think I think I'd go

750
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,800
Georgia by about ten In this.

751
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 2: One that seems that's yeah, that's about the number I

752
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:43,079
would pick as well.

753
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: Uh, Lione is what when we say two and a half.

754
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:50,039
So we'll see more to come. Maddy Hohodex set to

755
00:44:50,159 --> 00:44:53,000
join us next. We'll get her thoughts on the Cottage

756
00:44:53,039 --> 00:44:56,800
Football Playoff, what's going on with Tulane, and more on

757
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:01,920
the other side. Stay with us, join us now the

758
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,599
program this week. Please to welcome in from right in

759
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:10,360
our backyard or our colleague. It is Mattie Houdak who

760
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:14,079
becomes the first person to join this show within the

761
00:45:14,199 --> 00:45:18,199
Roundtable family. So we're excited to extend that outreach out

762
00:45:18,639 --> 00:45:21,519
and have her joined us right now. Maddie, thanks for

763
00:45:22,559 --> 00:45:25,800
joining us and being here. I know it's a big week,

764
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,840
crazy week, so much going on with these conference championship

765
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,360
games and also the countdown of the college football playoff here.

766
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:33,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, no problem, I didn't know it was the first

767
00:45:33,599 --> 00:45:36,239
Round Table person on here, so happy, happy to be

768
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:36,599
the first.

769
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 1: Yes, well, I've been here a month now, so glad

770
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,119
that we could make this happen and some really cool

771
00:45:43,159 --> 00:45:45,280
stuff going on. Like I've talked about round and Table

772
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:46,960
on this show, but you've been here longer than me

773
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,719
give people an idea, you know, whether they're an Oklahoma fan,

774
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,400
Oklahoma State fan, you know, Big twelve sec. I mean,

775
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,480
there's something for everybody at roundtable going on right now.

776
00:45:57,159 --> 00:45:58,079
Speaker 4: Well, that's what I was about to say.

777
00:45:58,119 --> 00:46:00,199
Speaker 5: I know that you probably have your audience that's they're

778
00:46:00,199 --> 00:46:02,719
speaking to, but there is there is pretty much every

779
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,360
sport that you can think of at this point, and

780
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,400
just a really great, dedicated group of girls guys with

781
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:08,400
their boots on the ground.

782
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:09,760
Speaker 4: It's been really cool to watch form.

783
00:46:10,559 --> 00:46:13,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is, it's been it's been awesome to see.

784
00:46:13,119 --> 00:46:16,199
And uh. And so you're you're doing the two lane

785
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:20,559
thing and and also seeing overseeing college coverage and also

786
00:46:20,599 --> 00:46:24,079
working the sidelines. I mean you're you're pretty busy yourself. Yeah.

787
00:46:24,199 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's especially this time of the year where everything

788
00:46:26,519 --> 00:46:28,400
kind of crashes down together at the same time.

789
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, let's let's start off with the TV you

790
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:37,079
cover TWU lane in the American Conference Championship. Uh, exciting game.

791
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,360
What I've been saying about this, Mattie is that, uh,

792
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:45,199
you know, if you're a college football enthusiast, you need

793
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,360
to be watching this game Friday night. Forget the name

794
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:52,199
brands or anything like that. These are two exciting teams,

795
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,800
uh that play good football and have a shot to

796
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,960
be in the playoff. I mean, what more could you want? Like,

797
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,440
I don't have a dog in this fight, but I'm

798
00:47:00,519 --> 00:47:03,199
just looking forward to being entertained and seeing good football Friday.

799
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:04,599
Speaker 4: Yeah for sure.

800
00:47:04,639 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, it's essentially a play in game

801
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,039
for the playoff, like how the rankings came out, Like what,

802
00:47:10,119 --> 00:47:13,119
whoever wins this game, they're going to the college Football Playoff.

803
00:47:13,679 --> 00:47:15,679
And so that's something that to be able to be

804
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,599
a Tulane fan side the line reporter covering the program

805
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,360
and legitimately.

806
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 4: Say that that is why.

807
00:47:23,039 --> 00:47:25,639
Speaker 5: You know, when I think people all this discourse about

808
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,039
the twelve team format and group of five teams not belonging, well,

809
00:47:29,079 --> 00:47:31,400
then I mean you miss out on just an entire

810
00:47:31,559 --> 00:47:35,159
group of college football that has someone has a stake

811
00:47:35,199 --> 00:47:37,760
in the race. And you know, I remember when Tulane

812
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,480
went to the New Year Six Bowl a few years ago.

813
00:47:39,559 --> 00:47:42,039
It just feels like there's something more on the line

814
00:47:42,079 --> 00:47:44,480
when there's something with those higher stakes. And to have

815
00:47:44,559 --> 00:47:46,719
it be in the city of New Orleans after it

816
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,920
was in West Point last year, is going.

817
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:53,559
Speaker 1: To be really great, Yeah it is. And you look

818
00:47:53,639 --> 00:47:57,719
at what both teams are going through of their coaches

819
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:02,280
moving on but still coaching in the game here, I mean,

820
00:48:02,639 --> 00:48:06,320
very unlike the situation going on with Old Miss and

821
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,480
Lane Kiffin and all that. I mean, it seems like

822
00:48:08,559 --> 00:48:12,079
these programs are excited to have their coaches sticking around

823
00:48:12,119 --> 00:48:12,280
for this.

824
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

825
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 5: I mean you have to address the obvious where you know,

826
00:48:15,639 --> 00:48:18,760
Florida and Tulane they're they're not competing with one another

827
00:48:19,199 --> 00:48:21,880
as of now in terms of resources recruits, and it's

828
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,719
just not the same as someone going to an interconference rival.

829
00:48:25,079 --> 00:48:27,119
So I do see, and I think that's the way

830
00:48:27,559 --> 00:48:29,679
for these guys to be able to finish their seasons

831
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,440
out with their coach at the hell. You know, we're

832
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,199
all talking about next season, but this still is the

833
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,519
end of this year, and these guys signed up to

834
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,039
play for this coach and that's not done yet. And

835
00:48:39,119 --> 00:48:42,000
so I think that that's why I really appreciate that

836
00:48:42,079 --> 00:48:44,840
both programs are really allowing the coaches to see this

837
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,320
out till the end, including a potential college Football playoff run.

838
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,840
I mean, it's just something that guys dream about, coaches

839
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,199
dream about that's probably going to be more difficult for

840
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,199
both of these coaches, quite frankly, at their next stops,

841
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,320
and so to have them be able to really finish

842
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,280
this out with the guys, it's going to be really exciting.

843
00:49:01,639 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. And you know, I don't know what

844
00:49:04,559 --> 00:49:07,719
you think, Maddy, but you know, when when I see

845
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,360
some of those teams in that five six range that

846
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,800
we're talking about, the Oregons, the Old Misses, the Texas

847
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,920
A and M's of the world, I'm looking at the

848
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,480
winner of this game. I know, everybody just kind of

849
00:49:20,679 --> 00:49:24,360
automatically assumes blowout. I think that's a little premature to

850
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:28,320
count out Twulane or North Texas, either one potentially contending

851
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:29,119
with one of these guys.

852
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 4: Yeah.

853
00:49:30,519 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, the Old miss thing is weird

854
00:49:32,559 --> 00:49:34,719
for Twulane fans just because there was that kind of

855
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,320
blowout earlier this year. But you always do kind of

856
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,760
wonder about a rematch in those situations, especially with you know,

857
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,920
looking at Tulane's team at that time. You know, Jake

858
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,679
Rehetzoff had gotten on campus a week before training camp

859
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,000
had started and really wasn't even the starter and the

860
00:49:49,079 --> 00:49:52,960
conversation until about a week before the actual season began,

861
00:49:53,559 --> 00:49:55,840
you had to replace three guys in the defensive back

862
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:57,880
room that went on and are now in the NFL

863
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,800
with guys that didn't really have that much time on task.

864
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,559
Speaker 4: And so yeah, you saw things really hit a wall

865
00:50:04,119 --> 00:50:04,920
earlier this year.

866
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 5: But then you know, you look at a potential Oregon matchup,

867
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,960
especially you know, for two in side Chris Hampton being

868
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,159
their defensive coordinator. He used to be two lanes defensive coordinator,

869
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:13,639
so there.

870
00:50:13,599 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 4: Is some familiarity there.

871
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:17,519
Speaker 5: But you know, I agree, I think when you kind

872
00:50:17,559 --> 00:50:19,960
of look at those five six spots, but you also

873
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,360
look at half the games last year, we're all blowouts

874
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,280
in the first round and didn't include a group of

875
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,000
five teams in any of those first games. So I

876
00:50:28,079 --> 00:50:30,800
think it really just depends on the matchup every single year.

877
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:34,079
But I think that there's definitely a possibility that the

878
00:50:34,119 --> 00:50:36,239
group of five one could be competitive with this seating.

879
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I can't forget about James Madison of course

880
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,079
as well potentially being involved, and.

881
00:50:42,119 --> 00:50:43,760
Speaker 4: Duke's chaos could very well happen.

882
00:50:44,159 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not not impossible, but by any stretch to

883
00:50:47,119 --> 00:50:51,199
vegetation with that said, when when you look at what's

884
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,960
going on with with with two lane and how they

885
00:50:54,039 --> 00:50:56,039
match up with North Texas. What do you think about

886
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,159
how this game will go? You and I were kind

887
00:50:58,159 --> 00:50:59,719
of talking off the top there there could be some

888
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,000
potentially helping out Tulane here.

889
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,199
Speaker 5: Yeah, though the weather being bad definitely favors the Green Wave,

890
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:07,840
just because I think, you know, when you look at

891
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:11,199
this game, trying to slow down such a prolific offense

892
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,039
like North Texas, you know you're not going to be

893
00:51:13,119 --> 00:51:15,920
able to really get into an air fight with them

894
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:17,840
and expect to win that. I think you have to

895
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,320
limit the amount of times that Drew Mestmaker is able

896
00:51:20,639 --> 00:51:22,079
to see the field. And I think you have to

897
00:51:22,199 --> 00:51:24,639
dare New Texas to also run the ball on you.

898
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,840
You know, they have such a good running game, but

899
00:51:27,039 --> 00:51:29,000
it's one of those things that they have the top

900
00:51:29,079 --> 00:51:31,039
passing offense in the American one of the top in

901
00:51:31,079 --> 00:51:33,760
the country. And so of course to me, the ground

902
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,039
game is going to be a good one when everyone's

903
00:51:36,079 --> 00:51:39,039
kind of dropping back into coverage, and so I think

904
00:51:39,119 --> 00:51:42,400
North Texas hasn't really seen that many boxes with the

905
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,360
caliber of defender that Tulane is going to come after

906
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,000
them with. And I think they are going to have

907
00:51:47,039 --> 00:51:48,480
to dare them to beat them in the air. But

908
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:52,079
I really think Tulane trying to again match what North

909
00:51:52,119 --> 00:51:54,760
Texas does well would be a bad idea. I think

910
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,000
relying on you know again, I think running the football

911
00:51:57,039 --> 00:51:59,840
wins games. And I think especially with this potential weather

912
00:52:00,079 --> 00:52:02,320
and trying to limit the amount of time that the

913
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,000
other offense is on the field, I think that's going

914
00:52:04,079 --> 00:52:05,039
to be a really important key.

915
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're absolutely right about that, and for

916
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,119
both these programs too. We talk about the stakes of

917
00:52:11,159 --> 00:52:14,119
being in the college for a playoff. You know, Two

918
00:52:14,199 --> 00:52:17,840
Lane of course has had more recent success of you know,

919
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,039
that good Cotton Bowl win a few years ago beat

920
00:52:20,159 --> 00:52:24,039
USC But this feels like the biggest correct me if

921
00:52:24,039 --> 00:52:26,440
I'm wrong here, Maddie, But this feels like the biggest

922
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,840
game ever for each of these schools.

923
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:29,039
Speaker 2: Here.

924
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's hard not to agree with that.

925
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:36,159
Speaker 5: Just again, you know, these guys when they were growing up,

926
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,199
you know, I don't think they would have ever considered

927
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,639
I would go somewhere like a Tulane or a North

928
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,320
Texas and then have a shot and be one win

929
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,599
away from playing for a national championship. You know, that's

930
00:52:46,639 --> 00:52:49,679
something that that's something these guys will tell their grandkids

931
00:52:49,679 --> 00:52:51,880
about at a certain day, and so I think just

932
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,360
having that be and again it's not really this, oh well,

933
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,480
all of these things have to happen. It's almost been

934
00:52:57,519 --> 00:53:00,320
oddly simplified in a way with two Lane kind of

935
00:53:00,639 --> 00:53:03,079
getting that top ranked the Group of five spot, and

936
00:53:03,119 --> 00:53:05,480
then really holding onto it these last couple of weeks.

937
00:53:05,519 --> 00:53:07,800
Now they are going to have a ranked matchup for

938
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:11,079
that college football playoff spot, and so it's very earned,

939
00:53:11,119 --> 00:53:14,039
and I think just the stakes being this high, you're

940
00:53:14,039 --> 00:53:17,360
really glad that it's in Yeoman Stadium because I remember

941
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,559
the championship game at Tulane one that sent them to

942
00:53:20,599 --> 00:53:21,239
the Cotton Bowl.

943
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 4: Home field advantage really really mattered in that game.

944
00:53:24,599 --> 00:53:26,559
Speaker 5: You look back at the Duke game earlier this year

945
00:53:26,639 --> 00:53:29,559
for Tulane where that was probably the most hostile environment

946
00:53:29,639 --> 00:53:32,440
I've seen at Yeoman Stadium, just with the whole Darien

947
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,519
Mensaw return thing. But knowing how much the home environment

948
00:53:35,599 --> 00:53:37,840
can really make a difference, and then I also think

949
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,360
it'll make a difference that Tulane's bended this dance before,

950
00:53:40,639 --> 00:53:42,440
and yes they've lost it twice in a row now,

951
00:53:42,519 --> 00:53:45,800
but that's also really important learning experience, and North Texas

952
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,239
hasn't really been in this moment before, So I think

953
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,800
if there is adversity that hits both teams, one team

954
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:52,559
or the other, I do think that that still kind

955
00:53:52,599 --> 00:53:53,519
of favors the Green Wave.

956
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:57,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, how about the quarterback for two line?

957
00:53:57,639 --> 00:53:57,760
Speaker 2: Here?

958
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: Jake Retz laugh comes in as a walk on, was

959
00:54:01,079 --> 00:54:04,519
successful with BYU, of course, had that controversy that ultimately

960
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:09,159
led to him leaving that program. What's he been like

961
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,320
for two lane? How's the fit for him in this

962
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:13,000
offense been?

963
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 4: I mean, it's been pretty incredible.

964
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 5: And I don't think we're having this conversation at all

965
00:54:18,079 --> 00:54:20,519
right now if Jake Redsloft doesn't show up on campus.

966
00:54:20,559 --> 00:54:22,400
You just look at a lot of the games where

967
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,039
he's really had to do a lot to dig in

968
00:54:24,119 --> 00:54:26,960
and win. You look at the Memphis game earlier this year.

969
00:54:27,079 --> 00:54:29,519
I mean, he was absolutely lights out in that performance,

970
00:54:29,559 --> 00:54:32,400
and I think that's I mean, you need a performance

971
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,079
from a quarterback to go into this battle this weekend.

972
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:39,079
But just he's been such a great leader, it's really

973
00:54:39,119 --> 00:54:41,000
hard to believe that again, he showed up a week

974
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,440
before training camp, But what really played I think a

975
00:54:43,559 --> 00:54:46,079
role in that assimilation is the fact that John Summral

976
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,320
really had recruited Jake Redsloft when he was at with

977
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,920
the Troy Trojans. It was actually the only FBS offer

978
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,800
he had for a long time until BYU came kind

979
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:56,679
of came out of nowhere, and so when he was

980
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,519
looking for somewhere to land, that was such an obvious fit.

981
00:54:59,639 --> 00:55:03,920
And I think having that comfortableness and familiarity with coach

982
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,760
Somemral helped him really come in here and assimilate and

983
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,920
put this team really in a position to make a

984
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,320
run here. And I also think, you know, you look

985
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,039
at how he's been such a complimentary quarterback, being able

986
00:55:14,079 --> 00:55:15,840
to use his legs a little more. I kind of

987
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:17,920
expect him to open that up a little bit more

988
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:18,800
on Friday as well.

989
00:55:19,199 --> 00:55:21,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, that'll be a big deal for him to see

990
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,800
what he could potentially do as far as that goes

991
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,320
with Uh. With that said, what what are some other

992
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,840
keys to this game? What was kind of some of

993
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,159
the matchups that kind of catch your eye in this

994
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:35,639
one here? Yeah?

995
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:38,559
Speaker 5: Again, I mean tu Lane has a tall task on offense.

996
00:55:38,559 --> 00:55:41,199
I mean Drew Mestmaker, he's a he's either a red

997
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:43,119
shirt freshman or a true freshman, I can't remember, but

998
00:55:43,519 --> 00:55:45,480
to lead the nation in passing yards, and you look

999
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,880
at the guys that have gotten the metrics that he's gotten.

1000
00:55:49,559 --> 00:55:51,159
But again, you know they have Wyatt Young, they have

1001
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,159
a really great wide receiving core. But then they also

1002
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:56,719
have this true freshman running back Hilo Hawkins, who leads

1003
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,639
the country in total touchdowns and I believe in rushing

1004
00:55:59,679 --> 00:56:02,519
touchdow as well. So the defense is really going to

1005
00:56:02,599 --> 00:56:05,199
have their hands fill. And then North Texas also has

1006
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:09,039
the top passing offense in the American I believe they

1007
00:56:09,119 --> 00:56:11,559
have the worst rush defense in the American So that's

1008
00:56:11,599 --> 00:56:14,880
a really interesting dichotomy to me, where they're so great

1009
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:18,159
at stopping the pass and then they literally can't figure

1010
00:56:18,199 --> 00:56:19,960
out how to stop the run. And so I think

1011
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:21,639
when you look at what a key to victory is

1012
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:25,079
for Tulane, obviously you're gonna need some air yards out there,

1013
00:56:25,199 --> 00:56:27,360
but I think you just have to dare this North

1014
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,320
Texas team to stop your running back room one. That's

1015
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,719
a pretty deep one for Tulayane at this point. Probably

1016
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,639
a lot of Jamari McClure, Javin Gordon, and again quite Frankly,

1017
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:37,880
Jake Rutzlov, I think this is really where you look

1018
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,280
for those RPOs and that kind of stuff to really

1019
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,880
just be able to slow this game down. And you know,

1020
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,159
there's been some uglier two lane wins in the past

1021
00:56:45,159 --> 00:56:47,039
where they kind of just ground it out, and I

1022
00:56:47,159 --> 00:56:48,960
do think that there is really something to be said in.

1023
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:49,760
Speaker 4: This matchup for them.

1024
00:56:50,159 --> 00:56:53,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, You're right about that. John Someverral You've

1025
00:56:53,119 --> 00:56:55,000
got to know as well as anybody the last few years,

1026
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,760
what do you think of what he's done and what

1027
00:56:59,199 --> 00:57:02,000
is flor I'm getting out of John severall here.

1028
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 5: I mean they're getting, you know, a heck of a recruiter,

1029
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,880
a heck of a coach. I just you know, his

1030
00:57:08,079 --> 00:57:10,960
direct honesty in this state of college football and the

1031
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,320
way that he speaks both with media with his players.

1032
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,239
It's so rare and refreshing to me, like everything is

1033
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:18,599
just always based on promises and this, that and the other.

1034
00:57:19,039 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 4: And he tells guys straight up.

1035
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 5: Really you know what their roles are going to be,

1036
00:57:22,239 --> 00:57:24,559
what they're not doing well, how to see a path

1037
00:57:24,639 --> 00:57:25,159
to the field.

1038
00:57:25,239 --> 00:57:27,079
Speaker 4: And I just don't think there's any surprises.

1039
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 5: And so I think when you're able to get a

1040
00:57:29,039 --> 00:57:31,199
guy that is, he knows how to recruit the type

1041
00:57:31,199 --> 00:57:33,360
of caliber of guy that's needed at Florida because he

1042
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,280
spent time working in the SEC. Playing in the SEC.

1043
00:57:36,679 --> 00:57:38,519
He was a linebacker coach at Ole Miss and then

1044
00:57:38,599 --> 00:57:41,760
was the co defensive coordinator at Kentucky. We also played

1045
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,239
Florida last year in the Gasparilla Bowl, and you could

1046
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,800
literally see the size discrepancy on the field. I mean,

1047
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:49,599
there just is a giant one. So he really has

1048
00:57:49,679 --> 00:57:52,199
that understanding of what it takes to win at that level.

1049
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,800
But he just you know, he has an X factor.

1050
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,039
And I know people hate hearing that because they want

1051
00:57:57,079 --> 00:57:59,760
to hear like specific things about him, but everyone that's

1052
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:01,719
see like meets him kind of says the same thing.

1053
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,800
There just is something about him. And then it's all

1054
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,079
worked on the football field. You look everywhere he's gone.

1055
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,960
He's taking his team to a conference championship literally every

1056
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,519
single year that he's been a head coach. Now you know,

1057
00:58:12,559 --> 00:58:14,400
they won them at Troy, has yet to win them

1058
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:16,719
at Tulane, but he took over for you know, I

1059
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,360
think Willie Fritz really built the foundation here at Tulane,

1060
00:58:19,559 --> 00:58:21,280
but coach Summrow really took it and ran with it.

1061
00:58:21,679 --> 00:58:23,559
And then this last year with all the poaching on

1062
00:58:23,639 --> 00:58:26,079
Tulane's roster from the transfer portal, it would have been

1063
00:58:26,119 --> 00:58:28,199
really easy for Tulane to just throw up their hands

1064
00:58:28,239 --> 00:58:30,320
and kind of creep back into what they used to be.

1065
00:58:30,679 --> 00:58:33,280
And I think his aggressiveness reloading in the portal and everything,

1066
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:36,920
really it really has made his mark here. And you know,

1067
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,000
we all hope to kind of see him well after

1068
00:58:39,079 --> 00:58:41,480
this stop hoping that they we'll have a win here

1069
00:58:41,519 --> 00:58:43,400
on Friday so we'll get to make that run with him.

1070
00:58:43,719 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, Maddie, it's not just him making this move. The

1071
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:51,679
American Athletic Conference as a whole, sending what is it now,

1072
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:56,800
three four coaches to the SEC. Quite the run of

1073
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:00,480
you know what we saw of just good football league

1074
00:59:00,519 --> 00:59:03,880
for one, you know, as a you know, a group

1075
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,079
of six conference, but two on the other end, like

1076
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:11,599
these coaches getting the promotions they did. This is I

1077
00:59:11,719 --> 00:59:13,440
know that you hate to lose the coach, but this,

1078
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:15,280
I would say, this is big and it was a

1079
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:16,480
big year for the American here.

1080
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's pretty crazy.

1081
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 5: Three of their coaches got hired by the SEC and

1082
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,960
then Eric morris by the Big Twelve Oklahoma State.

1083
00:59:25,599 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 4: The graphic was a little weird.

1084
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna lie of the conference thinking the coaches

1085
00:59:29,559 --> 00:59:33,280
for leaving them didn't love that. But I think, you know,

1086
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,920
especially when you look at a lot of the discourse

1087
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,920
about the College Football Playoff and them saying that you

1088
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:44,000
know doesn't belong, well, you know, reconcile with the idea

1089
00:59:44,199 --> 00:59:45,639
of sorry, my computer is about to die.

1090
00:59:45,679 --> 00:59:47,719
Speaker 4: Now, this is really great with the.

1091
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:51,159
Speaker 5: Fact that the SEC thinks that you know, three of

1092
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:54,599
the openings are you know, to be filled by group

1093
00:59:54,679 --> 00:59:57,360
of five head coaches, and so that's been an interesting

1094
00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:59,639
discourse for me to follow along with this year has

1095
00:59:59,679 --> 01:00:01,679
been you know, the group of five not belonging in

1096
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:05,079
the college Football Playoffs, but their players certainly do because

1097
01:00:05,079 --> 01:00:07,079
they get poached a lot of the time by these

1098
01:00:07,119 --> 01:00:09,480
guys in the transfer portal. And then now you know,

1099
01:00:09,639 --> 01:00:12,920
all of the teams that were in contention or are

1100
01:00:13,039 --> 01:00:17,280
in the American Championship, now three of those guys are

1101
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:19,679
going on to take on SEC programs again, another one

1102
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:20,079
taking on.

1103
01:00:20,119 --> 01:00:22,519
Speaker 4: The Big Twelve. And so I think it also shows

1104
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:24,639
you know, you said the kind of the group of six.

1105
01:00:24,719 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 5: I think there is this almost kind of like media

1106
01:00:27,119 --> 01:00:29,800
now between the Power four and the Group of six,

1107
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:33,119
where maybe one or two conferences are kind of wallowing

1108
01:00:33,159 --> 01:00:35,400
around in there. But I think that the American is

1109
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:37,239
really kind of you know, they used to really try

1110
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,320
to position themselves as like a PCE six and be

1111
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:42,280
that six power conference. Now I think there is honestly

1112
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:44,079
a little bit of a vacuum that the American has

1113
01:00:44,199 --> 01:00:46,880
very much credibly filled as that group of five conference

1114
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:48,440
to beat, and I think it's shown by their coaches

1115
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:49,159
all getting poached.

1116
01:00:49,639 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an excellent point. And you know, Matty, I

1117
01:00:54,039 --> 01:00:55,480
grew up in Tulsa. It went to a lot of

1118
01:00:55,559 --> 01:00:59,079
University of Tulsa games, and you know, the thing that

1119
01:00:59,159 --> 01:01:03,679
I've seen, I think Tulsa it tells a very solid year.

1120
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:06,880
You know, under Trey Smith his first season there you're

1121
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:09,440
beating Oklahoma State and among others, and it seems like

1122
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:12,079
things are going well. But like the problem they faced

1123
01:01:12,119 --> 01:01:15,440
for example, like you know, they have not had the

1124
01:01:15,599 --> 01:01:19,840
budget and they've had the monetary issues that we've seen.

1125
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:22,320
Compared to their counterparts in the American they were able

1126
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:24,639
to compete financially when they were in Conference USA and

1127
01:01:24,639 --> 01:01:27,840
the Whack and all that, but there is I think

1128
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:30,880
two Lane is a great example of this, Like there

1129
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:34,559
is a legit care, and there is a want to win.

1130
01:01:34,719 --> 01:01:37,440
There's a true investment from some of these teams in

1131
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:41,119
the American even if they don't have the media rights

1132
01:01:41,199 --> 01:01:44,079
deals that we're seeing, if maybe Big twelve and ACC schools,

1133
01:01:44,079 --> 01:01:46,280
it's it's not a lack of trying by any effort.

1134
01:01:46,599 --> 01:01:49,199
I think that's another reason that they should be awarded

1135
01:01:49,239 --> 01:01:52,920
with potential playoff access, is like they're not holding back

1136
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:54,719
here by any means. They're doing what they can what

1137
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:55,639
they have to work with.

1138
01:01:57,039 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I also will say I actually think the

1139
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:01,440
media rights deal for them is pretty good because they

1140
01:02:01,519 --> 01:02:04,400
have the agreement with ESPN. And I just look at

1141
01:02:04,679 --> 01:02:08,280
how many two games for Tulane compared to my first year.

1142
01:02:08,599 --> 01:02:10,320
Where I get it, you know, they won two games

1143
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:12,400
my first year, but I will never get over the

1144
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:14,519
fact that the year they won the Cotton Bowl, their

1145
01:02:14,599 --> 01:02:17,840
win over Kansas State was on ESPN Plus. That was

1146
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:21,119
tough because no one saw Tulane coming at that stage.

1147
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:23,639
Ever since then, I think we had one game this

1148
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:26,039
year on ESPN Plus, the other were on you know,

1149
01:02:26,119 --> 01:02:28,760
all their three major stations. And so like my family

1150
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:32,039
in California talks about Tulane. Now it's definitely become more

1151
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:35,199
of a national brand. And again that's when you talk

1152
01:02:35,199 --> 01:02:37,199
about this expansion and this stuff kind of making a

1153
01:02:37,239 --> 01:02:39,360
difference you once you start to kind of get that

1154
01:02:39,519 --> 01:02:42,199
national presence. You look also at schools that make the

1155
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:44,639
jump to power For and how they're kind of able

1156
01:02:44,719 --> 01:02:47,960
to do that. And I remember UCF, their athletic director

1157
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:50,079
at the time, really talking about just a strategy of

1158
01:02:50,159 --> 01:02:53,719
getting UCF in everyone's eyeballs, using the TV deals to

1159
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:56,719
really build this national brand and then bring the football

1160
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:59,000
program that comes along with it. I think you're really

1161
01:02:59,079 --> 01:03:01,639
starting to see not just Two Lane, but a few

1162
01:03:01,679 --> 01:03:03,760
schools in the American that are really at that upper

1163
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,800
equally on of being competitive, being able to start formulating

1164
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,480
this national brand alongside the TV rights deal. But it

1165
01:03:09,639 --> 01:03:11,239
is it's just an arms race trying to kind of

1166
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,280
catch up to the group of I'm sorry to the

1167
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:15,480
Power For and you're just kind of happy that Two

1168
01:03:15,519 --> 01:03:16,920
Lan is one of those teams that at least has

1169
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:18,280
a competitive NIL program.

1170
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, we mentioned Maddie's covering the college sports scene as

1171
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:24,239
a whole at a round table so I want to

1172
01:03:24,239 --> 01:03:26,480
get your thoughts, Mattie, just on the CFP of what

1173
01:03:26,599 --> 01:03:30,719
we're at going into Championship weekend. What's kind of your

1174
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,960
thoughts on the twelve teams that sit there in the

1175
01:03:34,039 --> 01:03:38,639
field right now? The committee has been very inconsistent, to

1176
01:03:38,719 --> 01:03:40,840
say the least, of how they've handled this. What's kind

1177
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:44,400
of your takeaways from where things stack up heading into Championship.

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Speaker 5: With you know, I'll say that I'm okay with the

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teams in there, it's more so the seating. I think

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that everyone's kind of like ha.

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Speaker 4: And then Miami.

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Speaker 5: I think Miami is a very interesting bubble team to me,

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just because you look at the fact that they literally

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beat No on the field, and so I don't really

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understand how a team that lost to that like that

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just doesn't make sense to me. And I think they

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also kind of put themselves in a corner last year

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saying that the championship games wouldn't.

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Speaker 4: Change anything, and then they did kind of end up

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changing things.

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Speaker 5: And you heard them say, oh, we got some advice

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this summer on what we said last year. Basically, yeah,

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I mean, you have to literally take championship games into account. Otherwise,

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why is anyone playing them this weekend, I think that

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we might kind of start to move away from that,

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but I am going to be curious to kind of

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see how that seeding gets affected. I also was glad

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to see that they didn't end up really penalizing any

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teams that lost their head coaches. You were kind of

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worried about the Jordan Travis effect, and then you know,

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at least from Tulane side, I was at least, you know,

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I'm not happy for James Madison fans, but the fact

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that their coach has also gone to kind of eliminated

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any worries of, oh, okay, we're gonna put this team

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in the playoff because there are the other guys's head.

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Speaker 4: Coaches are leaving.

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Speaker 5: So I think it's been a really weird year kind

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of focused on that in a way, but I ultimately

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I'm kind of at peace with the teams that are

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in there. I think Miami certainly has a case. I

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think it gets really weird if Duke wins, then I

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think again, the James Madison Dukes certainly have an argument,

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and I think again that works then in the Americans favor,

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because that champ is absolutely getting ranked above the acc Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think another intit point you talked about if a

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championship game is going to punish what about Alabama? Here?

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They played Georgia. I think everybody's just, you know, assuming

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Georgia wins this game. But Bama hasn't played great in

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a month, and you know, they for whatever reason jump

1220
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Notre Dame last week, and like, could we potentially see

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a scenario where I'll give you two ideas here, Matty,

1222
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you tell me what you think. Could they win and

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01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:55,960
play good enough and jump Oklahoma even though they they

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already lost to them a few weeks ago at home?

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And then the other idea, if they get beat bad enough,

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does Bama with a third loss come in the championship

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game potentially get knocked out altogether?

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Speaker 2: You think?

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Speaker 5: So that's where I think they said that they are

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not going to penalize teams for playing an extra game,

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and I'm pretty I'm inclined to agree with that. Otherwise,

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if I'm a team, I'm losing my last game and

1233
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I'm hoping that the College Football Playoff ranks us accordingly,

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because I just think that that's too much of a

1235
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risk if you've made it to the championship game, I

1236
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do think you should only stand to go up in

1237
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the rankings, especially if you're the lower team, where I

1238
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would not have a problem. If it's Alabama and Georgia

1239
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:35,000
right in the SEC championship game, yeah, I mean Georgia's

1240
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ring third, so yeah, I'll Bama beats them. I don't

1241
01:06:38,079 --> 01:06:40,239
have an issue with them jumping in Oklahoma because they

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got to that final game and they showed that they

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at that time, with the stakes that high, were able

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to beat the number three team in the country. But

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I absolutely don't think they should stay at nine or

1246
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at eight wherever they ended up being like you said

1247
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they did at Notre Dame. I think they're at Notre

1248
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,440
Dame at nine, Yeah, then I think they should fall

1249
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back now, not fall out of the seeding entirely. But

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I do think, you know, if you get embarrassed in

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01:07:01,679 --> 01:07:04,159
your conference championship, I just think it kind of matters

1252
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with how the game is played on the field. If

1253
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it's a competitive game one way or the other, I

1254
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don't see the needle moving that much. But if Alabama

1255
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goes out there and gets embarrassed, I think they should

1256
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fall to the final seed. But if they do end

1257
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up winning, then you know, I think they've earned the

1258
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right to at least earn the right now to move

1259
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up in the rankings, not so much the week before.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, with this said, going into this playoff, you know,

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all it feels like it's kind of Ohio State versus

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everybody else, that they've been so dominant, so good, and

1263
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:36,800
and everybody else has been you know, we've seen the

1264
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:41,440
parody from that point is in your rise is Ohio State?

1265
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:44,440
Clearly the team debate going into this postseason is that

1266
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there's a lose you think.

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Speaker 4: I think they definitely are.

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Speaker 5: But again, I mean now that you have several games

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to be played here, that there's attrition, there's stuff, there's

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got there's chains that might get on a roll and

1271
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kind of figure it out.

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Speaker 4: So I'm I'm kind of you know, I know they

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won last year.

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Speaker 5: And it's it's probably presumed favorite that they'll end up

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going back to the title game. But I did think that,

1276
01:08:04,599 --> 01:08:06,960
you know, there were a little bit of surprises in

1277
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:09,840
the quarterfinals semi finals of the playoff last year, and

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I definitely think we could see another upset this year.

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Speaker 2: For sure.

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Speaker 1: Mannie Will we got a little bit of time off,

1281
01:08:15,159 --> 01:08:18,960
so go ahead and plug away. You get a lot

1282
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of stuff going out with the Roundtable, the Two Lane

1283
01:08:21,119 --> 01:08:23,520
Radio Network. Where can people find you and see all

1284
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the stuff you're doing.

1285
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:27,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was gonna say honestly, Two Lane Roundtable, NCAA,

1286
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:31,119
NFL Roundtable Sports. We'll be on the radio on Varsity

1287
01:08:31,199 --> 01:08:33,159
Network on Friday if you want to listen to us

1288
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:37,039
call hopefully a second conference championship win for the Green

1289
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Wave on the Varsity Network.

1290
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Speaker 1: App awesome stuff, Madni, appreciate the time, Thanks for stopping by,

1291
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and I'm sure we'll be talking again down a lot.

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Speaker 4: Great thank you and bro Wave