WEBVTT 1 00:00:33.399 --> 00:00:36.200 Well here we are back again, at least for the 2 00:00:36.280 --> 00:00:38.799 time being. I think looking at the schedule here, I 3 00:00:38.799 --> 00:00:40.399 think we might be able to do this for a 4 00:00:40.439 --> 00:00:43.439 couple of Mondays in some form or fashion. Here read 5 00:00:44.039 --> 00:00:47.479 Mark cast here, Welcome to the show. Please like and subscribe. 6 00:00:48.159 --> 00:00:51.560 Jason Hussey is under the weather today. I think that 7 00:00:51.679 --> 00:00:55.159 might be Canadian for a hungover I think Jason was 8 00:00:55.200 --> 00:00:59.600 at the Hammer watching that thrilling tie Cats Argonauts game. 9 00:00:59.640 --> 00:01:01.799 We'll talk about that. Andrew Murray is logging in here. 10 00:01:01.960 --> 00:01:03.280 Let me get through a couple of things because I 11 00:01:03.280 --> 00:01:04.959 have a joke for Andy before I pull him on. 12 00:01:06.319 --> 00:01:08.480 Like I said, like and subscribe. Back here. It's been 13 00:01:08.599 --> 00:01:10.799 really kind of a whirlwind the last couple of weeks. 14 00:01:10.799 --> 00:01:12.519 So we had to go back to Texas and then 15 00:01:12.560 --> 00:01:16.640 Boston for work, and then went to now I got 16 00:01:16.640 --> 00:01:18.359 to go to Vegas here in October. But I think 17 00:01:18.400 --> 00:01:20.200 for a couple of weeks here, I'm running that football 18 00:01:20.239 --> 00:01:22.359 start next week, and I think we'll figure that. I 19 00:01:22.359 --> 00:01:24.280 think I think the four o'clock and then leads you 20 00:01:24.319 --> 00:01:26.239 into that. Then you can slip over to Troy and 21 00:01:26.280 --> 00:01:28.680 Buck and all of that and watch that. Let's bring 22 00:01:28.719 --> 00:01:31.319 into Professor and Murray, Andy, I thought you were going 23 00:01:31.359 --> 00:01:35.560 to pull Nathan Worrick and not fulfill your media obligations today, Andy, 24 00:01:35.599 --> 00:01:37.280 filling in here for Jason Hussey. 25 00:01:37.280 --> 00:01:39.760 How are you doing, sir, great man. It's so good 26 00:01:39.760 --> 00:01:42.319 to see you. I haven't been on since before the 27 00:01:42.319 --> 00:01:44.400 season started, if I'm not mistaken. 28 00:01:44.760 --> 00:01:49.439 You know, it's really like even asking about stuff over 29 00:01:49.480 --> 00:01:52.239 the week, and I'm like, time is a nebulus right now. 30 00:01:52.719 --> 00:01:56.000 Five nights on the road was very exciting. Back here, 31 00:01:56.079 --> 00:01:57.680 I'm caught up on everything. I have a lot of 32 00:01:57.760 --> 00:02:00.400 Nathan Warrick and all that to talk about. I said, 33 00:02:00.400 --> 00:02:03.040 we hope Jason feels better. Like I said, he was 34 00:02:03.040 --> 00:02:05.400 hanging out at the Hammer. I imagine that has part to 35 00:02:05.439 --> 00:02:07.879 do with the upset stomach today, but obviously we hope 36 00:02:07.920 --> 00:02:11.000 he feels better. Andy, First off, how the heck are you? 37 00:02:11.080 --> 00:02:13.439 And how's life? And how are you enjoying the CFL season? 38 00:02:13.680 --> 00:02:16.879 I mean, the Labor Da era CFL doesn't start till 39 00:02:16.919 --> 00:02:19.520 Labor Day weekend, but this was a really thrilling weekend 40 00:02:19.520 --> 00:02:19.960 of football. 41 00:02:20.000 --> 00:02:21.400 What have you thought so far of everything? 42 00:02:22.599 --> 00:02:25.280 This has been a really, really good season. I obviously 43 00:02:25.319 --> 00:02:28.199 made my side trip to Edmonton and that's kind of 44 00:02:28.240 --> 00:02:31.000 started the new era. Honestly, the tray well I thought 45 00:02:31.000 --> 00:02:32.919 to beat the new era, the tray forward era. However, 46 00:02:33.960 --> 00:02:38.520 Edmonton's fortunes have been vastly improved since that game happened. 47 00:02:39.439 --> 00:02:41.960 The season itself has been just a roller coaster. I mean, 48 00:02:42.000 --> 00:02:44.919 obviously we'll get into your team later, but this has 49 00:02:44.960 --> 00:02:48.639 been a really just delightful season to watch from every week, 50 00:02:48.639 --> 00:02:52.400 there being new storylines, different quarterbacks coming into the system, 51 00:02:53.319 --> 00:02:56.719 whether they were starting the season with their teams or not, injuries, 52 00:02:57.639 --> 00:03:01.000 coaches being fired left and right, and teams. It's been 53 00:03:01.080 --> 00:03:04.039 really interesting and honestly, it's been probably the most parody 54 00:03:04.039 --> 00:03:06.879 that I can remember from watching the CFL in the 55 00:03:06.879 --> 00:03:09.360 past few years. So for me, it's been a really 56 00:03:09.400 --> 00:03:13.280 good product to watch as far as entertainment value, and 57 00:03:13.719 --> 00:03:15.599 even though not all the players that I've wanted to 58 00:03:15.599 --> 00:03:19.039 see have been playing throughout the season, it's been very 59 00:03:19.080 --> 00:03:21.759 compelling to follow along with everything going on. 60 00:03:22.520 --> 00:03:24.479 I was thinking about it today, I was watching I 61 00:03:24.520 --> 00:03:27.199 think it was the Calgary and I've got I. 62 00:03:27.199 --> 00:03:30.080 I did put on my evonton my ee hat here. 63 00:03:30.120 --> 00:03:32.159 I think I got this when they were the Evonton 64 00:03:32.199 --> 00:03:34.400 Football Club or football team or whatever they called it, 65 00:03:34.439 --> 00:03:36.080 but got this one on today. 66 00:03:36.280 --> 00:03:38.240 I was watching that game because I agree with you. 67 00:03:38.280 --> 00:03:41.960 When I was reading Don Kata's article like last week, 68 00:03:42.000 --> 00:03:43.280 because I've been tracking everything. 69 00:03:43.280 --> 00:03:45.039 I've just been so and like trying. 70 00:03:44.879 --> 00:03:47.439 To keep them with the group chat, like I read everything, 71 00:03:47.479 --> 00:03:50.439 but I'm like, what is going on? But talking about 72 00:03:50.479 --> 00:03:53.319 TV ratings being up right, and obviously we'll get the ratings. 73 00:03:53.319 --> 00:03:54.280 I don't know if they came out today. 74 00:03:54.319 --> 00:03:56.879 I've been running around, but you know, for for this weekend, 75 00:03:56.919 --> 00:03:58.599 and not that we do a lot of TV ratings 76 00:03:58.719 --> 00:04:01.879 us on here, but like CFL's hot right now, right 77 00:04:02.000 --> 00:04:04.840 like it feels hot. Ratings are good. This is exciting 78 00:04:04.960 --> 00:04:06.840 quality of plays up. We have a lot of parody. 79 00:04:07.240 --> 00:04:09.479 And I was sitting there watching that Calgary game. They've 80 00:04:09.520 --> 00:04:12.439 got the cow bells going and the air horns. I'm like, 81 00:04:13.639 --> 00:04:17.839 I a way to appeal to this younger demographic, like 82 00:04:17.920 --> 00:04:20.000 get rid of some of that stuff, because I think 83 00:04:20.040 --> 00:04:22.680 you could really market this as kind of a sexy product. 84 00:04:22.759 --> 00:04:24.639 I know we want to get the grandpa's they are 85 00:04:24.680 --> 00:04:26.480 part of the stampeder Days kind of in all this, 86 00:04:26.560 --> 00:04:29.199 but I thought, man, they're talking and it seems like 87 00:04:29.199 --> 00:04:31.399 three downs, really high on the seed. You know, everyone's 88 00:04:31.439 --> 00:04:33.920 really high and everything's going on. But that you watch 89 00:04:34.040 --> 00:04:36.000 that and you're like, this is like I think Rod 90 00:04:36.000 --> 00:04:38.519 Peterson calls it like state Fair football or whatever every 91 00:04:38.519 --> 00:04:40.279 once in a while. So I wish that they would 92 00:04:40.319 --> 00:04:42.759 like because I love everything else. I think, you know, 93 00:04:42.839 --> 00:04:45.480 let's revamp the graphics or it's revamped the music. Get 94 00:04:45.600 --> 00:04:46.920 rid of some of that stuff. I don't need to 95 00:04:46.959 --> 00:04:48.879 hear the cow bells in the stands. I don't need 96 00:04:49.000 --> 00:04:51.079 and this isn't just Montreal, but they got the like, 97 00:04:51.439 --> 00:04:53.319 get rid of some of that and let's spice it 98 00:04:53.399 --> 00:04:55.079 up a little bit, because I do think like, let's 99 00:04:55.160 --> 00:04:57.399 ride this. The NFL is the biggest thing in the world, 100 00:04:57.480 --> 00:05:01.079 like sports in general. I was watching pair are the 101 00:05:01.399 --> 00:05:03.680 what was it the Special Olympics forever, I was watching 102 00:05:03.680 --> 00:05:04.959 the bad minton guys going back. 103 00:05:05.319 --> 00:05:07.720 Just everything seems on the on the height right now. 104 00:05:07.759 --> 00:05:10.160 But I would just appreciate that. But that's that's me. 105 00:05:10.279 --> 00:05:12.279 Call me American, but that is what it is. 106 00:05:13.199 --> 00:05:15.360 I mean, would you prefer death by cow bell or 107 00:05:15.519 --> 00:05:19.439 deaf by airhorn? Because that's basically the choice you get 108 00:05:19.560 --> 00:05:22.519 these days when it comes to crowd noise in the CFL, 109 00:05:24.120 --> 00:05:27.800 But I do like what I heard from the Saskatchewan 110 00:05:27.839 --> 00:05:30.680 Winnipeg game. That seemed like a raucous environment and it 111 00:05:30.680 --> 00:05:32.879 obviously was the most sold out game in the history 112 00:05:32.879 --> 00:05:38.319 of that rivalry. From the Saskatchewan standpoint in Mosaic Stadium, 113 00:05:38.439 --> 00:05:40.839 and it seemed rocous the entire time. It seemed like 114 00:05:40.839 --> 00:05:42.240 it was very back and forth through a lot of 115 00:05:42.240 --> 00:05:46.800 Winnipeg fans. There were a lot of very just over 116 00:05:46.839 --> 00:05:50.120 their skis Saskatchewan fans who were ready for this losing 117 00:05:50.160 --> 00:05:52.600 streak to loot to end, which it didn't obviously, but 118 00:05:52.680 --> 00:05:55.480 we'll get into later. But I mean, I think the 119 00:05:55.600 --> 00:05:58.000 energy level the people. It's the thing that I kind 120 00:05:58.000 --> 00:06:00.680 of saw a little bit from some other leagues that 121 00:06:00.720 --> 00:06:03.519 we follow, like for example, you know XFL twenty twenty, 122 00:06:03.639 --> 00:06:06.360 or even some cases in the UFL where people who 123 00:06:06.360 --> 00:06:08.720 do show up, I think, do care. It's just a 124 00:06:08.759 --> 00:06:11.879 matter of getting a mixed audience. It's about getting other 125 00:06:11.879 --> 00:06:14.800 people involved. It's about getting other you know, maybe gimmicks, 126 00:06:14.800 --> 00:06:16.120 I guess you'd call them, and I'm sure if that's 127 00:06:16.160 --> 00:06:22.040 the right word, but getting more excitement from what's being presented, 128 00:06:22.120 --> 00:06:24.199 and like you said, I think one of the I 129 00:06:24.240 --> 00:06:26.480 think there's a point you made last week, or maybe 130 00:06:26.480 --> 00:06:28.519 it was the week before that I really resonated with, 131 00:06:28.560 --> 00:06:31.879 which was how the league's advertising goes about saying it 132 00:06:32.000 --> 00:06:34.560 really matters after Labor Day. What about all the weeks 133 00:06:34.560 --> 00:06:37.079 before that, how about the entire half season that happens 134 00:06:37.120 --> 00:06:41.000 before Labor Day. I think that is demonstratively important, you know, 135 00:06:41.199 --> 00:06:44.360 especially with teams that like Edmonton starting off zero to 136 00:06:44.399 --> 00:06:48.759 seven and then somehow, somehow they're actually in the potential 137 00:06:48.839 --> 00:06:50.920 race to being in the wild like in a wild 138 00:06:50.920 --> 00:06:53.920 card spot in the playoffs in the West Division, Winnipeg 139 00:06:53.959 --> 00:06:57.279 being a complete zombie coming back from the dead in 140 00:06:57.319 --> 00:06:59.279 the last few weeks after they were horrible in the 141 00:06:59.319 --> 00:07:02.360 first month. I just think there needs to be more 142 00:07:03.120 --> 00:07:05.199 consciousness of that too, where it's just that you can't 143 00:07:05.240 --> 00:07:07.920 just toss that way. Especially let's think about this read 144 00:07:08.279 --> 00:07:10.839 what's just started back up this past weekend that really 145 00:07:10.879 --> 00:07:14.480 distracted me from engaging with anything on Saturday. I think 146 00:07:14.480 --> 00:07:18.199 that the Victoria game was great. College football's back, I 147 00:07:18.199 --> 00:07:20.959 mean college football's back in the fold. NFL is starting 148 00:07:20.959 --> 00:07:24.000 on Thursday. Your American audience is conscious with that, CFL 149 00:07:24.079 --> 00:07:26.800 whatever attention span you had with it for the last 150 00:07:26.920 --> 00:07:29.360 twelve weeks is going out the window. It's gonna be 151 00:07:29.360 --> 00:07:31.920 completely dissipated. You have to build up momentum, and you 152 00:07:31.920 --> 00:07:33.360 have to find a way to build that momentum. I 153 00:07:33.399 --> 00:07:36.120 know we're American audience. I know it's about Canadians, but 154 00:07:36.199 --> 00:07:38.560 I'm just saying, if you're thinking about bringing other people in, 155 00:07:39.160 --> 00:07:41.519 that's something you have to at least consider well. 156 00:07:41.560 --> 00:07:44.560 I mean, save the college football. Did the guy eat 157 00:07:44.560 --> 00:07:46.279 the dog poop? That's what I need to know. 158 00:07:46.360 --> 00:07:48.040 I during. 159 00:07:50.040 --> 00:07:53.480 I texted that Paul, Paul formerly in the market, I go, Paul, 160 00:07:53.480 --> 00:07:55.319 are you tracking this as closely as I am? 161 00:07:55.319 --> 00:07:56.879 Because I just need to know that I'm not more 162 00:07:56.920 --> 00:07:57.120 than that. 163 00:07:57.199 --> 00:08:01.800 But anyway, we'll get to everything today full Labor Day weekend, 164 00:08:01.920 --> 00:08:03.920 a breakdown here at CFL Week thirteen. 165 00:08:05.240 --> 00:08:07.120 Like I said, like and subscribe, we'll give away. 166 00:08:07.160 --> 00:08:09.680 We can't do the UFL tickets or anything anymore, so 167 00:08:09.759 --> 00:08:12.079 we'll do We're doing the Royal retros. We'll do a 168 00:08:12.120 --> 00:08:15.879 CFL custom jersey and then UFL custom jersey team if 169 00:08:15.920 --> 00:08:18.199 you want whatever, We'll figure it out. We get two 170 00:08:18.199 --> 00:08:20.000 Canadian but I like, we'll do a couple of that, 171 00:08:20.040 --> 00:08:21.959 because if you want, like a I don't know, maybe 172 00:08:21.959 --> 00:08:25.040 you want the Nathan Rourke you know, VC Lions Jersey, 173 00:08:25.120 --> 00:08:27.120 or maybe you want whatever we've done, like Doug Flutie 174 00:08:27.160 --> 00:08:27.720 ones in the past. 175 00:08:27.759 --> 00:08:30.040 We've done all that stuff, so like and subscribe. 176 00:08:30.079 --> 00:08:31.920 I do think, like I said, we should beat regular 177 00:08:31.959 --> 00:08:33.559 here for at least the next couple of weeks and 178 00:08:33.559 --> 00:08:35.679 then I'll figure out if I get whisked away on 179 00:08:35.720 --> 00:08:39.039 this that really is and the funny story and if 180 00:08:39.039 --> 00:08:41.759 anyone cares on the marquets. But you know, I do 181 00:08:41.879 --> 00:08:45.279 video production, wedding, videography, corporate, all that stuff. And I 182 00:08:45.399 --> 00:08:48.080 had missed out on a bid that I had put 183 00:08:48.080 --> 00:08:50.039 in for the same thing last year for this year, 184 00:08:50.080 --> 00:08:52.320 and it was going to be in Vegas. And when 185 00:08:52.320 --> 00:08:56.279 they declined my bid, the lady went on and saw, 186 00:08:56.559 --> 00:08:58.519 you know, we've corresponded a lot, but she was looking 187 00:08:58.559 --> 00:09:00.639 at my signature and I have the mark Cast, you 188 00:09:00.679 --> 00:09:02.879 know read you know, own her best made videos, host 189 00:09:02.879 --> 00:09:05.240 to the mark Cast, and she clicked that link sa 190 00:09:05.399 --> 00:09:08.080 the YouTube channel. And it's because of because of the 191 00:09:08.120 --> 00:09:10.000 Mark Cast that I get to fly over in the 192 00:09:10.000 --> 00:09:12.360 country now and do this podcast for the CEO so 193 00:09:13.080 --> 00:09:15.799 you know, at the end of the day, like something 194 00:09:16.000 --> 00:09:19.399 actually came out of this save with anything else, Andy, 195 00:09:19.480 --> 00:09:21.120 do we want to do the Nathan workcause I feel 196 00:09:21.120 --> 00:09:23.039 like that Nathan Warkstep's kind of dead, but I haven't 197 00:09:23.080 --> 00:09:24.679 had a chance to voice. I want to make sure 198 00:09:24.720 --> 00:09:26.440 you have a chance. We want to start with that 199 00:09:26.480 --> 00:09:28.360 and then we can do the Victoria game and roll through. 200 00:09:28.399 --> 00:09:34.399 Does that make sense? You're muted, Andy, You're muted? 201 00:09:34.440 --> 00:09:37.679 Sorry? Oh yeah, sorry? Do you wanted to start with 202 00:09:37.799 --> 00:09:40.919 the storyline? Correct? The storyline that came out about him 203 00:09:40.919 --> 00:09:41.679 this past weekend? 204 00:09:42.240 --> 00:09:44.399 Yeah? I just I mean, because I have thoughts. 205 00:09:44.399 --> 00:09:46.120 I share some thoughts on Twitter, and I got in 206 00:09:46.200 --> 00:09:48.120 some arguments with some people, and that's fine. I mean, 207 00:09:48.159 --> 00:09:51.440 I don't need you know, no one needs to agree 208 00:09:51.480 --> 00:09:52.720 with me or not, but I want to make sure 209 00:09:52.759 --> 00:09:55.159 I get some points out there. You know, obviously we 210 00:09:55.200 --> 00:09:59.159 saw Nathan Warrick kind of I don't know if it 211 00:09:59.240 --> 00:10:01.639 was like Cold Show older or kind of like stand 212 00:10:01.679 --> 00:10:05.879 off far Han a friend of the show. Without getting 213 00:10:05.879 --> 00:10:07.879 into details. I don't think that that sort of thing 214 00:10:07.919 --> 00:10:10.279 will be happening again. I just, you know, all hot 215 00:10:10.279 --> 00:10:12.200 takes a side, and I'm sure Rod was talking about 216 00:10:12.200 --> 00:10:14.360 it today and everything else, But I want to make 217 00:10:14.399 --> 00:10:16.559 sure we address that any Do you have any thoughts 218 00:10:16.600 --> 00:10:18.120 on that. I'll kind of get to my step because I'm, 219 00:10:18.200 --> 00:10:19.799 like I said, I know it's kind of dead news here, 220 00:10:19.840 --> 00:10:20.679 it's Tuesday. 221 00:10:20.759 --> 00:10:23.000 I want to make sure we really touch on it. 222 00:10:23.120 --> 00:10:25.159 I mean, I know it's a few days after the fact, 223 00:10:25.159 --> 00:10:30.159 but in the moment, I was just surprised and a 224 00:10:30.200 --> 00:10:34.799 little bit disappointed that that was the immediate reaction that 225 00:10:35.360 --> 00:10:40.600 Roork had when Farhid Laundry was approaching him for the interview. Look, 226 00:10:41.240 --> 00:10:45.360 I know a lot of people, I know for a fact, 227 00:10:45.519 --> 00:10:48.879 don't particularly care for the media interviews. They don't care 228 00:10:48.960 --> 00:10:51.320 for the halftime stuff. They don't care for talking to 229 00:10:51.399 --> 00:10:53.639 coaches and players in the middle of a game. They 230 00:10:53.639 --> 00:10:56.600 think it's superfluous and it doesn't really matter. But the 231 00:10:56.639 --> 00:10:58.279 fact of the matter is you have to put the 232 00:10:58.320 --> 00:11:01.440 faces of your league out there or another. Whatever they 233 00:11:01.440 --> 00:11:03.720 say is whatever they say, they've been coached up to say. 234 00:11:03.720 --> 00:11:08.639 Whatever it is. As a player of Nathan's pedigree, which 235 00:11:08.679 --> 00:11:11.600 is quite high, in fact the highest in the entire league, 236 00:11:11.639 --> 00:11:17.039 I think we could argue it's it's honestly incumbent of him. 237 00:11:17.080 --> 00:11:21.320 To present himself in a way to the media that, 238 00:11:21.720 --> 00:11:23.679 even if he doesn't like talking to them, at least 239 00:11:23.679 --> 00:11:26.840 shows that he understands that people want to hear from him, 240 00:11:26.840 --> 00:11:30.200 because people do. He's getting paid a bunch of money, 241 00:11:30.440 --> 00:11:33.720 he got basically everything thrown at him last minute to 242 00:11:33.759 --> 00:11:39.720 come and save the Lions season. And especially considering that Farhan, 243 00:11:39.759 --> 00:11:42.000 who I think we respect tremendously. I have a lot 244 00:11:42.000 --> 00:11:43.399 of respect fro him. You have a lot of respect 245 00:11:43.399 --> 00:11:47.360 fro him, is not a guy who I think gets you. 246 00:11:47.559 --> 00:11:50.399 He's not a gotcha journalist, like let me you know. 247 00:11:51.159 --> 00:11:55.159 Yeah, he shouldn't be like put into the same category 248 00:11:55.200 --> 00:11:57.639 as some of these other media personalities who are just 249 00:11:57.720 --> 00:11:59.679 trying to interrupt you and just like pull you in 250 00:11:59.679 --> 00:12:01.720 into the little dark circle. That's not what they are, 251 00:12:01.799 --> 00:12:04.879 so I think, And I think that's a sidebar here 252 00:12:04.919 --> 00:12:07.840 because I don't believe that Nathan thinks of him that way, 253 00:12:07.879 --> 00:12:10.399 but it certainly seems like that's how he's treating him, 254 00:12:10.440 --> 00:12:12.360 and I don't think that's fair too far Han, but 255 00:12:12.480 --> 00:12:15.840 especially just basically, for lack of a better term, blowing him, 256 00:12:16.080 --> 00:12:18.639 blowing off the interview and just basically running off with 257 00:12:18.679 --> 00:12:21.759 his teammates. I understand that Nathan is a very focused, 258 00:12:21.879 --> 00:12:26.039 very meticulous planner when it comes to his game strategy 259 00:12:26.080 --> 00:12:27.960 and being in tune with what's going on. He played 260 00:12:28.039 --> 00:12:31.960 tremendously well on Saturday, But the fact of the matter 261 00:12:32.080 --> 00:12:34.360 is he still has to put up in appearance. I mean, 262 00:12:34.399 --> 00:12:36.200 he showed up in the booth. I know he was 263 00:12:36.240 --> 00:12:38.480 doing NFL stuff at the time, but he showed up 264 00:12:38.519 --> 00:12:40.559 in the booth for his team, for the PC team 265 00:12:41.000 --> 00:12:44.200 a month ago and speculating about what it would be 266 00:12:44.240 --> 00:12:45.879 like to come back, and I think he still has 267 00:12:45.919 --> 00:12:49.960 to at least be somewhat presentable. I just think it 268 00:12:50.000 --> 00:12:51.840 came off and he may not have intended this, that 269 00:12:51.919 --> 00:12:53.360 it came off like he was above all of it, 270 00:12:53.519 --> 00:12:58.679 and quite frankly, he should not be presenting it that way, 271 00:12:59.159 --> 00:13:02.679 because that not only does enfranchises yourself, I think it 272 00:13:02.720 --> 00:13:05.720 disenfranchises your team, and I think it doesn't franchises the 273 00:13:05.799 --> 00:13:09.200 league as a whole, like that is an incredible product 274 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:11.440 that you're trying to put out there, and I think 275 00:13:11.440 --> 00:13:13.320 it was just disappointing. Again, I don't think that was 276 00:13:13.320 --> 00:13:16.200 his intended effect. I do believe he was just very 277 00:13:16.240 --> 00:13:18.159 in the moment, but he has to be a little 278 00:13:18.159 --> 00:13:20.320 bit more conscious of that stuff. Just even if you're 279 00:13:20.399 --> 00:13:24.000 zoned out for thirty seconds answering questions, just that's what 280 00:13:24.039 --> 00:13:24.519 you gotta do. 281 00:13:25.440 --> 00:13:27.120 Yeah, just a couple of things. Like I said, and 282 00:13:27.320 --> 00:13:29.720 I get all this, but you know, and this is 283 00:13:29.720 --> 00:13:32.519 the platform we get for all this stuff. It was 284 00:13:32.559 --> 00:13:34.759 the same thing I think it was McLeod. Was it 285 00:13:34.759 --> 00:13:37.000 two seasons ago where you kind of pushed the camera 286 00:13:37.080 --> 00:13:39.360 guy off when they were and I think they had lost. 287 00:13:39.399 --> 00:13:41.360 It was that when they lost to Hamilton and they 288 00:13:41.360 --> 00:13:42.960 were going to the Great Coup or whatever, but like 289 00:13:43.279 --> 00:13:46.399 he kind of pushed the camera off as some of 290 00:13:46.399 --> 00:13:48.279 the used to work in TV news and deal with 291 00:13:48.320 --> 00:13:50.279 sports and deal with like I was the one that 292 00:13:50.600 --> 00:13:52.879 I can read Richard Sherman, but he came to see 293 00:13:52.879 --> 00:13:54.600 out and all that, like very in tune with all that. 294 00:13:55.159 --> 00:13:57.679 When DeVante Adams, I think it was right ran into 295 00:13:57.720 --> 00:14:02.440 the videographer. Was it last season or is he like 296 00:14:02.919 --> 00:14:05.000 I took offense to that. It's the thing that bothers me. 297 00:14:05.559 --> 00:14:07.919 My thing is this because because it came out and 298 00:14:07.960 --> 00:14:09.399 like I said, I don't think that this is something 299 00:14:09.440 --> 00:14:10.559 we'll have to worry about again. 300 00:14:10.600 --> 00:14:13.720 But when you're Nathan work when you leave the CFL in. 301 00:14:13.679 --> 00:14:16.360 The beginning, and when you when you put on your 302 00:14:16.360 --> 00:14:19.799 statement like you know, my I think Evan re shared 303 00:14:19.879 --> 00:14:21.679 it in the thing and I looked it up today 304 00:14:21.720 --> 00:14:22.840 too to make sure I had it. But it was 305 00:14:22.840 --> 00:14:24.759 like an unforeseen detour and they have to come up 306 00:14:24.799 --> 00:14:27.720 to the CFL. That his quote before you go into 307 00:14:27.759 --> 00:14:31.000 the NFL, and now you're finally coming back when you've 308 00:14:31.000 --> 00:14:34.480 really you know, exhausted some of your opportunities. Right, You're 309 00:14:34.519 --> 00:14:36.639 being paid a boatload of money you're coming in here. 310 00:14:37.159 --> 00:14:39.879 To me, that speaks to I don't want to be 311 00:14:40.000 --> 00:14:42.000 here right or I feel like I'm above that, And 312 00:14:42.080 --> 00:14:44.759 like you said, if that's not the intention, that's awesome. 313 00:14:44.960 --> 00:14:47.960 That's how it comes across to me. Also, there's been 314 00:14:48.039 --> 00:14:50.159 all of this back and forth with you know, the 315 00:14:50.200 --> 00:14:52.720 marketing budget and how are we fording work and we're 316 00:14:52.720 --> 00:14:55.679 paying all this I'm like, did half your salary is 317 00:14:55.720 --> 00:14:59.360 a marketing money? Like, I mean, I know this's I mean, 318 00:14:59.440 --> 00:15:02.399 I know that's more like media, you know, appearances or 319 00:15:02.440 --> 00:15:04.840 we're gonna go, you know, giveaway coach for children and 320 00:15:04.879 --> 00:15:06.960 we're gonna kind of do all that stuff like you're 321 00:15:07.000 --> 00:15:09.080 paid for that. And then it was the whole thing 322 00:15:09.080 --> 00:15:12.080 where Nathan Warke was like, well, uh, you know, Coach 323 00:15:12.159 --> 00:15:14.200 Campbell said, if I did this, I would never have 324 00:15:14.279 --> 00:15:15.480 to do it the rest of my career. 325 00:15:15.960 --> 00:15:18.879 Hey, does Nathan really believe that? Like, do you really 326 00:15:18.879 --> 00:15:21.080 believe that? Buh? 327 00:15:21.240 --> 00:15:24.480 Come on, Rick, Like we've and I'm infant myself up 328 00:15:24.519 --> 00:15:26.639 again because I wasn't as Hampson. I left a very 329 00:15:26.639 --> 00:15:28.639 angry voice memo in the group to other for the weekend, 330 00:15:28.679 --> 00:15:32.399 but like, uh, Rick, coach your guys up. Nathan, you 331 00:15:32.480 --> 00:15:34.440 need to go do this. You're you're the face of 332 00:15:34.480 --> 00:15:37.200 the league. You're the face of everything. And Hussey pointed 333 00:15:37.240 --> 00:15:40.399 out because we were talking about it, you know, like 334 00:15:41.440 --> 00:15:44.240 this was one of the tenth pole games of the 335 00:15:44.279 --> 00:15:46.960 regular season. This was that, Hey, we're going to you 336 00:15:46.960 --> 00:15:49.720 know what do they call it, Touchdown Pacific and we're 337 00:15:49.720 --> 00:15:52.080 doing all that and the big you know, standout kind. 338 00:15:51.919 --> 00:15:52.600 Of all that stuff. 339 00:15:52.759 --> 00:15:54.440 So you have all the media mail, you know, meet, 340 00:15:54.480 --> 00:15:57.120 all the eyes on this and what I don't like 341 00:15:57.200 --> 00:15:59.080 about it, and like you said, I love far Han, 342 00:15:59.240 --> 00:16:02.799 I love all this. I've interacted with, you know, mini 343 00:16:02.840 --> 00:16:05.720 media members, the Jamolin of the world, and Derek Taylor 344 00:16:05.759 --> 00:16:08.960 and kind of all that stuff. There's certain people I 345 00:16:09.000 --> 00:16:11.559 think because of how you know, and Nathan's been on 346 00:16:11.600 --> 00:16:14.440 our show, I have all respect for him. Maybe obviously 347 00:16:14.519 --> 00:16:19.320 the BC Lions stand. There's a certain like babying of 348 00:16:19.440 --> 00:16:22.440 Nathan I think just because a lot of the media 349 00:16:22.480 --> 00:16:25.519 have covered him for so long, right because obviously far 350 00:16:25.600 --> 00:16:27.840 Han's covering him in high school and Okay, what's he 351 00:16:27.879 --> 00:16:30.159 gonna do and we got this Canadian players, he gonna 352 00:16:30.159 --> 00:16:31.440 go to CFL is you need to go? 353 00:16:31.879 --> 00:16:33.080 So you've been there. 354 00:16:33.159 --> 00:16:35.559 I think there's a certain sense of like we gotta 355 00:16:35.639 --> 00:16:38.279 protect and far Han did his little post game, I'm like, well, 356 00:16:38.360 --> 00:16:41.200 you know, we're fine and we're good, Like that's not 357 00:16:41.399 --> 00:16:43.919 your and again all respect to Farhan, but like I 358 00:16:43.919 --> 00:16:47.120 think that you're viewing that through well, I feel protective 359 00:16:47.159 --> 00:16:49.360 of Nathan because I've been involved in hit with him 360 00:16:49.360 --> 00:16:51.559 this so long, right, Like, I don't take offense to 361 00:16:51.600 --> 00:16:55.360 that where if it wasn't someone like far Haan, I 362 00:16:55.399 --> 00:16:57.519 think there would be James has a comment here, you 363 00:16:57.600 --> 00:16:59.639 know he wouldn't have done that to an NFL reporter 364 00:17:00.200 --> 00:17:03.320 spoiler alert, mister wanted to be in the NFL and 365 00:17:03.320 --> 00:17:06.240 that's what they're doing this season. They're doing the XFL step. 366 00:17:06.440 --> 00:17:08.000 So if you're if you're opposed to a you know, 367 00:17:08.039 --> 00:17:11.920 a thirty second halftime interview, uh spoiler alert. This year, 368 00:17:11.960 --> 00:17:13.880 we're going to be talking to you know, Mike McDonald 369 00:17:13.960 --> 00:17:16.240 or whoever on the sidelines for the NFL games. Like 370 00:17:16.519 --> 00:17:18.440 this is something that's going to be you know, carried 371 00:17:18.480 --> 00:17:21.000 over from the XFL and the UFL. So like, uh, 372 00:17:21.160 --> 00:17:22.839 this whole like we I don't want to do that. 373 00:17:23.880 --> 00:17:25.839 It's only going to get worse if you ever wanted 374 00:17:25.880 --> 00:17:27.680 to go back to the NFL, which I don't know 375 00:17:27.680 --> 00:17:29.240 if that's going to happen or not. But again, it 376 00:17:29.359 --> 00:17:32.880 just it speaks to this like, uh again, I love 377 00:17:33.000 --> 00:17:35.119 da Athony. He's a you know, starting quarterback of the 378 00:17:35.119 --> 00:17:36.599 team that I want to see in the Gray Cup 379 00:17:36.599 --> 00:17:38.640 more than anything. But just it really came across and 380 00:17:38.640 --> 00:17:41.640 I was just really disappointed because this wasn't even week one. 381 00:17:42.039 --> 00:17:44.119 This was week three, and far Hunt like, well, you know, 382 00:17:44.119 --> 00:17:46.559 we didn't want to bother him the first week like this, 383 00:17:46.759 --> 00:17:50.160 he's not not a baby like you can, hey, we 384 00:17:50.240 --> 00:17:52.440 need to do the interview, like this is what's going 385 00:17:52.480 --> 00:17:55.440 on here. It's part of the job. Doing media interviews 386 00:17:55.519 --> 00:17:56.920 as an athlete is part. 387 00:17:56.759 --> 00:17:57.200 Of the job. 388 00:17:59.039 --> 00:18:01.119 Yeah. I think it's a a certain kind of profile 389 00:18:01.160 --> 00:18:03.240 and a certain kind of person to be able to 390 00:18:04.240 --> 00:18:07.440 pull off certain stunts with the media. For example, you're 391 00:18:07.440 --> 00:18:10.319 not Terrell and Lynch, Marshall Lynch. I'm just here, so 392 00:18:10.359 --> 00:18:13.319 I'm not fine. But Marsha Lynch would also say very 393 00:18:13.359 --> 00:18:17.680 poignant things at times that were very like I know, 394 00:18:17.720 --> 00:18:20.319 the vernacular may have not been something that people were 395 00:18:20.319 --> 00:18:22.200 familiar with, but he said it in a way that 396 00:18:22.319 --> 00:18:25.000 made a lot of sense from a colloquial standpoint. He 397 00:18:25.039 --> 00:18:27.640 actually was very well spoken when he wanted to be, 398 00:18:27.680 --> 00:18:29.759 but he didn't always want it to be right. But 399 00:18:29.799 --> 00:18:31.759 then there's people like Terall Owens, who was just a 400 00:18:31.799 --> 00:18:34.839 complete circus and just loved having the camera on him, right. 401 00:18:34.960 --> 00:18:37.000