Speaker 1: Well here we are back again, at least for the
Speaker 1: time being. I think looking at the schedule here, I
Speaker 1: think we might be able to do this for a
Speaker 1: couple of Mondays in some form or fashion. Here read
Speaker 1: Mark cast here, Welcome to the show. Please like and subscribe.
Speaker 1: Jason Hussey is under the weather today. I think that
Speaker 1: might be Canadian for a hungover I think Jason was
Speaker 1: at the Hammer watching that thrilling tie Cats Argonauts game.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about that. Andrew Murray is logging in here.
Speaker 1: Let me get through a couple of things because I
Speaker 1: have a joke for Andy before I pull him on.
Speaker 2: Like I said, like and subscribe. Back here. It's been
Speaker 2: really kind of a whirlwind the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: So we had to go back to Texas and then
Speaker 1: Boston for work, and then went to now I got
Speaker 1: to go to Vegas here in October. But I think
Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks here, I'm running that football
Speaker 1: start next week, and I think we'll figure that. I
Speaker 1: think I think the four o'clock and then leads you
Speaker 1: into that. Then you can slip over to Troy and
Speaker 1: Buck and all of that and watch that. Let's bring
Speaker 1: into Professor and Murray, Andy, I thought you were going
Speaker 1: to pull Nathan Worrick and not fulfill your media obligations today, Andy,
Speaker 1: filling in here for Jason Hussey.
Speaker 3: How are you doing, sir, great man. It's so good
Speaker 3: to see you. I haven't been on since before the
Speaker 3: season started, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 1: You know, it's really like even asking about stuff over
Speaker 1: the week, and I'm like, time is a nebulus right now.
Speaker 1: Five nights on the road was very exciting. Back here,
Speaker 1: I'm caught up on everything. I have a lot of
Speaker 1: Nathan Warrick and all that to talk about. I said,
Speaker 1: we hope Jason feels better. Like I said, he was
Speaker 1: hanging out at the Hammer. I imagine that has part to
Speaker 1: do with the upset stomach today, but obviously we hope
Speaker 1: he feels better. Andy, First off, how the heck are you?
Speaker 1: And how's life? And how are you enjoying the CFL season?
Speaker 1: I mean, the Labor Da era CFL doesn't start till
Speaker 1: Labor Day weekend, but this was a really thrilling weekend
Speaker 1: of football.
Speaker 2: What have you thought so far of everything?
Speaker 3: This has been a really, really good season. I obviously
Speaker 3: made my side trip to Edmonton and that's kind of
Speaker 3: started the new era. Honestly, the tray well I thought
Speaker 3: to beat the new era, the tray forward era. However,
Speaker 3: Edmonton's fortunes have been vastly improved since that game happened.
Speaker 3: The season itself has been just a roller coaster. I mean,
Speaker 3: obviously we'll get into your team later, but this has
Speaker 3: been a really just delightful season to watch from every week,
Speaker 3: there being new storylines, different quarterbacks coming into the system,
Speaker 3: whether they were starting the season with their teams or not, injuries,
Speaker 3: coaches being fired left and right, and teams. It's been
Speaker 3: really interesting and honestly, it's been probably the most parody
Speaker 3: that I can remember from watching the CFL in the
Speaker 3: past few years. So for me, it's been a really
Speaker 3: good product to watch as far as entertainment value, and
Speaker 3: even though not all the players that I've wanted to
Speaker 3: see have been playing throughout the season, it's been very
Speaker 3: compelling to follow along with everything going on.
Speaker 1: I was thinking about it today, I was watching I
Speaker 1: think it was the Calgary and I've got I.
Speaker 2: I did put on my evonton my ee hat here.
Speaker 1: I think I got this when they were the Evonton
Speaker 1: Football Club or football team or whatever they called it,
Speaker 1: but got this one on today.
Speaker 2: I was watching that game because I agree with you.
Speaker 1: When I was reading Don Kata's article like last week,
Speaker 1: because I've been tracking everything.
Speaker 2: I've just been so and like trying.
Speaker 1: To keep them with the group chat, like I read everything,
Speaker 1: but I'm like, what is going on? But talking about
Speaker 1: TV ratings being up right, and obviously we'll get the ratings.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they came out today.
Speaker 1: I've been running around, but you know, for for this weekend,
Speaker 1: and not that we do a lot of TV ratings
Speaker 1: us on here, but like CFL's hot right now, right
Speaker 1: like it feels hot. Ratings are good. This is exciting
Speaker 1: quality of plays up. We have a lot of parody.
Speaker 1: And I was sitting there watching that Calgary game. They've
Speaker 1: got the cow bells going and the air horns. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I a way to appeal to this younger demographic, like
Speaker 1: get rid of some of that stuff, because I think
Speaker 1: you could really market this as kind of a sexy product.
Speaker 1: I know we want to get the grandpa's they are
Speaker 1: part of the stampeder Days kind of in all this,
Speaker 1: but I thought, man, they're talking and it seems like
Speaker 1: three downs, really high on the seed. You know, everyone's
Speaker 1: really high and everything's going on. But that you watch
Speaker 1: that and you're like, this is like I think Rod
Speaker 1: Peterson calls it like state Fair football or whatever every
Speaker 1: once in a while. So I wish that they would
Speaker 1: like because I love everything else. I think, you know,
Speaker 1: let's revamp the graphics or it's revamped the music. Get
Speaker 1: rid of some of that stuff. I don't need to
Speaker 1: hear the cow bells in the stands. I don't need
Speaker 1: and this isn't just Montreal, but they got the like,
Speaker 1: get rid of some of that and let's spice it
Speaker 1: up a little bit, because I do think like, let's
Speaker 1: ride this. The NFL is the biggest thing in the world,
Speaker 1: like sports in general. I was watching pair are the
Speaker 1: what was it the Special Olympics forever, I was watching
Speaker 1: the bad minton guys going back.
Speaker 2: Just everything seems on the on the height right now.
Speaker 1: But I would just appreciate that. But that's that's me.
Speaker 1: Call me American, but that is what it is.
Speaker 3: I mean, would you prefer death by cow bell or
Speaker 3: deaf by airhorn? Because that's basically the choice you get
Speaker 3: these days when it comes to crowd noise in the CFL,
Speaker 3: But I do like what I heard from the Saskatchewan
Speaker 3: Winnipeg game. That seemed like a raucous environment and it
Speaker 3: obviously was the most sold out game in the history
Speaker 3: of that rivalry. From the Saskatchewan standpoint in Mosaic Stadium,
Speaker 3: and it seemed rocous the entire time. It seemed like
Speaker 3: it was very back and forth through a lot of
Speaker 3: Winnipeg fans. There were a lot of very just over
Speaker 3: their skis Saskatchewan fans who were ready for this losing
Speaker 3: streak to loot to end, which it didn't obviously, but
Speaker 3: we'll get into later. But I mean, I think the
Speaker 3: energy level the people. It's the thing that I kind
Speaker 3: of saw a little bit from some other leagues that
Speaker 3: we follow, like for example, you know XFL twenty twenty,
Speaker 3: or even some cases in the UFL where people who
Speaker 3: do show up, I think, do care. It's just a
Speaker 3: matter of getting a mixed audience. It's about getting other
Speaker 3: people involved. It's about getting other you know, maybe gimmicks,
Speaker 3: I guess you'd call them, and I'm sure if that's
Speaker 3: the right word, but getting more excitement from what's being presented,
Speaker 3: and like you said, I think one of the I
Speaker 3: think there's a point you made last week, or maybe
Speaker 3: it was the week before that I really resonated with,
Speaker 3: which was how the league's advertising goes about saying it
Speaker 3: really matters after Labor Day. What about all the weeks
Speaker 3: before that, how about the entire half season that happens
Speaker 3: before Labor Day. I think that is demonstratively important, you know,
Speaker 3: especially with teams that like Edmonton starting off zero to
Speaker 3: seven and then somehow, somehow they're actually in the potential
Speaker 3: race to being in the wild like in a wild
Speaker 3: card spot in the playoffs in the West Division, Winnipeg
Speaker 3: being a complete zombie coming back from the dead in
Speaker 3: the last few weeks after they were horrible in the
Speaker 3: first month. I just think there needs to be more
Speaker 3: consciousness of that too, where it's just that you can't
Speaker 3: just toss that way. Especially let's think about this read
Speaker 3: what's just started back up this past weekend that really
Speaker 3: distracted me from engaging with anything on Saturday. I think
Speaker 3: that the Victoria game was great. College football's back, I
Speaker 3: mean college football's back in the fold. NFL is starting
Speaker 3: on Thursday. Your American audience is conscious with that, CFL
Speaker 3: whatever attention span you had with it for the last
Speaker 3: twelve weeks is going out the window. It's gonna be
Speaker 3: completely dissipated. You have to build up momentum, and you
Speaker 3: have to find a way to build that momentum. I
Speaker 3: know we're American audience. I know it's about Canadians, but
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, if you're thinking about bringing other people in,
Speaker 3: that's something you have to at least consider well.
Speaker 1: I mean, save the college football. Did the guy eat
Speaker 1: the dog poop? That's what I need to know.
Speaker 3: I during.
Speaker 1: I texted that Paul, Paul formerly in the market, I go, Paul,
Speaker 1: are you tracking this as closely as I am?
Speaker 2: Because I just need to know that I'm not more
Speaker 2: than that.
Speaker 1: But anyway, we'll get to everything today full Labor Day weekend,
Speaker 1: a breakdown here at CFL Week thirteen.
Speaker 2: Like I said, like and subscribe, we'll give away.
Speaker 1: We can't do the UFL tickets or anything anymore, so
Speaker 1: we'll do We're doing the Royal retros. We'll do a
Speaker 1: CFL custom jersey and then UFL custom jersey team if
Speaker 1: you want whatever, We'll figure it out. We get two
Speaker 1: Canadian but I like, we'll do a couple of that,
Speaker 1: because if you want, like a I don't know, maybe
Speaker 1: you want the Nathan Rourke you know, VC Lions Jersey,
Speaker 1: or maybe you want whatever we've done, like Doug Flutie
Speaker 1: ones in the past.
Speaker 2: We've done all that stuff, so like and subscribe.
Speaker 1: I do think, like I said, we should beat regular
Speaker 1: here for at least the next couple of weeks and
Speaker 1: then I'll figure out if I get whisked away on
Speaker 1: this that really is and the funny story and if
Speaker 1: anyone cares on the marquets. But you know, I do
Speaker 1: video production, wedding, videography, corporate, all that stuff. And I
Speaker 1: had missed out on a bid that I had put
Speaker 1: in for the same thing last year for this year,
Speaker 1: and it was going to be in Vegas. And when
Speaker 1: they declined my bid, the lady went on and saw,
Speaker 1: you know, we've corresponded a lot, but she was looking
Speaker 1: at my signature and I have the mark Cast, you
Speaker 1: know read you know, own her best made videos, host
Speaker 1: to the mark Cast, and she clicked that link sa
Speaker 1: the YouTube channel. And it's because of because of the
Speaker 1: Mark Cast that I get to fly over in the
Speaker 1: country now and do this podcast for the CEO so
Speaker 1: you know, at the end of the day, like something
Speaker 1: actually came out of this save with anything else, Andy,
Speaker 1: do we want to do the Nathan workcause I feel
Speaker 1: like that Nathan Warkstep's kind of dead, but I haven't
Speaker 1: had a chance to voice. I want to make sure
Speaker 1: you have a chance. We want to start with that
Speaker 1: and then we can do the Victoria game and roll through.
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? You're muted, Andy, You're muted?
Speaker 3: Sorry? Oh yeah, sorry? Do you wanted to start with
Speaker 3: the storyline? Correct? The storyline that came out about him
Speaker 3: this past weekend?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I just I mean, because I have thoughts.
Speaker 1: I share some thoughts on Twitter, and I got in
Speaker 1: some arguments with some people, and that's fine. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't need you know, no one needs to agree
Speaker 1: with me or not, but I want to make sure
Speaker 1: I get some points out there. You know, obviously we
Speaker 1: saw Nathan Warrick kind of I don't know if it
Speaker 1: was like Cold Show older or kind of like stand
Speaker 1: off far Han a friend of the show. Without getting
Speaker 1: into details. I don't think that that sort of thing
Speaker 1: will be happening again. I just, you know, all hot
Speaker 1: takes a side, and I'm sure Rod was talking about
Speaker 1: it today and everything else, But I want to make
Speaker 1: sure we address that any Do you have any thoughts
Speaker 1: on that. I'll kind of get to my step because I'm,
Speaker 1: like I said, I know it's kind of dead news here,
Speaker 1: it's Tuesday.
Speaker 2: I want to make sure we really touch on it.
Speaker 3: I mean, I know it's a few days after the fact,
Speaker 3: but in the moment, I was just surprised and a
Speaker 3: little bit disappointed that that was the immediate reaction that
Speaker 3: Roork had when Farhid Laundry was approaching him for the interview. Look,
Speaker 3: I know a lot of people, I know for a fact,
Speaker 3: don't particularly care for the media interviews. They don't care
Speaker 3: for the halftime stuff. They don't care for talking to
Speaker 3: coaches and players in the middle of a game. They
Speaker 3: think it's superfluous and it doesn't really matter. But the
Speaker 3: fact of the matter is you have to put the
Speaker 3: faces of your league out there or another. Whatever they
Speaker 3: say is whatever they say, they've been coached up to say.
Speaker 3: Whatever it is. As a player of Nathan's pedigree, which
Speaker 3: is quite high, in fact the highest in the entire league,
Speaker 3: I think we could argue it's it's honestly incumbent of him.
Speaker 3: To present himself in a way to the media that,
Speaker 3: even if he doesn't like talking to them, at least
Speaker 3: shows that he understands that people want to hear from him,
Speaker 3: because people do. He's getting paid a bunch of money,
Speaker 3: he got basically everything thrown at him last minute to
Speaker 3: come and save the Lions season. And especially considering that Farhan,
Speaker 3: who I think we respect tremendously. I have a lot
Speaker 3: of respect fro him. You have a lot of respect
Speaker 3: fro him, is not a guy who I think gets you.
Speaker 2: He's not a gotcha journalist, like let me you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he shouldn't be like put into the same category
Speaker 3: as some of these other media personalities who are just
Speaker 3: trying to interrupt you and just like pull you in
Speaker 3: into the little dark circle. That's not what they are,
Speaker 3: so I think, And I think that's a sidebar here
Speaker 3: because I don't believe that Nathan thinks of him that way,
Speaker 3: but it certainly seems like that's how he's treating him,
Speaker 3: and I don't think that's fair too far Han, but
Speaker 3: especially just basically, for lack of a better term, blowing him,
Speaker 3: blowing off the interview and just basically running off with
Speaker 3: his teammates. I understand that Nathan is a very focused,
Speaker 3: very meticulous planner when it comes to his game strategy
Speaker 3: and being in tune with what's going on. He played
Speaker 3: tremendously well on Saturday, But the fact of the matter
Speaker 3: is he still has to put up in appearance. I mean,
Speaker 3: he showed up in the booth. I know he was
Speaker 3: doing NFL stuff at the time, but he showed up
Speaker 3: in the booth for his team, for the PC team
Speaker 3: a month ago and speculating about what it would be
Speaker 3: like to come back, and I think he still has
Speaker 3: to at least be somewhat presentable. I just think it
Speaker 3: came off and he may not have intended this, that
Speaker 3: it came off like he was above all of it,
Speaker 3: and quite frankly, he should not be presenting it that way,
Speaker 3: because that not only does enfranchises yourself, I think it
Speaker 3: disenfranchises your team, and I think it doesn't franchises the
Speaker 3: league as a whole, like that is an incredible product
Speaker 3: that you're trying to put out there, and I think
Speaker 3: it was just disappointing. Again, I don't think that was
Speaker 3: his intended effect. I do believe he was just very
Speaker 3: in the moment, but he has to be a little
Speaker 3: bit more conscious of that stuff. Just even if you're
Speaker 3: zoned out for thirty seconds answering questions, just that's what
Speaker 3: you gotta do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just a couple of things. Like I said, and
Speaker 1: I get all this, but you know, and this is
Speaker 1: the platform we get for all this stuff. It was
Speaker 1: the same thing I think it was McLeod. Was it
Speaker 1: two seasons ago where you kind of pushed the camera
Speaker 1: guy off when they were and I think they had lost.
Speaker 1: It was that when they lost to Hamilton and they
Speaker 1: were going to the Great Coup or whatever, but like
Speaker 1: he kind of pushed the camera off as some of
Speaker 1: the used to work in TV news and deal with
Speaker 1: sports and deal with like I was the one that
Speaker 1: I can read Richard Sherman, but he came to see
Speaker 1: out and all that, like very in tune with all that.
Speaker 1: When DeVante Adams, I think it was right ran into
Speaker 1: the videographer. Was it last season or is he like
Speaker 1: I took offense to that. It's the thing that bothers me.
Speaker 1: My thing is this because because it came out and
Speaker 1: like I said, I don't think that this is something
Speaker 1: we'll have to worry about again.
Speaker 2: But when you're Nathan work when you leave the CFL in.
Speaker 1: The beginning, and when you when you put on your
Speaker 1: statement like you know, my I think Evan re shared
Speaker 1: it in the thing and I looked it up today
Speaker 1: too to make sure I had it. But it was
Speaker 1: like an unforeseen detour and they have to come up
Speaker 1: to the CFL. That his quote before you go into
Speaker 1: the NFL, and now you're finally coming back when you've
Speaker 1: really you know, exhausted some of your opportunities. Right, You're
Speaker 1: being paid a boatload of money you're coming in here.
Speaker 1: To me, that speaks to I don't want to be
Speaker 1: here right or I feel like I'm above that, And
Speaker 1: like you said, if that's not the intention, that's awesome.
Speaker 1: That's how it comes across to me. Also, there's been
Speaker 1: all of this back and forth with you know, the
Speaker 1: marketing budget and how are we fording work and we're
Speaker 1: paying all this I'm like, did half your salary is
Speaker 1: a marketing money? Like, I mean, I know this's I mean,
Speaker 1: I know that's more like media, you know, appearances or
Speaker 1: we're gonna go, you know, giveaway coach for children and
Speaker 1: we're gonna kind of do all that stuff like you're
Speaker 1: paid for that. And then it was the whole thing
Speaker 1: where Nathan Warke was like, well, uh, you know, Coach
Speaker 1: Campbell said, if I did this, I would never have
Speaker 1: to do it the rest of my career.
Speaker 2: Hey, does Nathan really believe that? Like, do you really
Speaker 2: believe that? Buh?
Speaker 1: Come on, Rick, Like we've and I'm infant myself up
Speaker 1: again because I wasn't as Hampson. I left a very
Speaker 1: angry voice memo in the group to other for the weekend,
Speaker 1: but like, uh, Rick, coach your guys up. Nathan, you
Speaker 1: need to go do this. You're you're the face of
Speaker 1: the league. You're the face of everything. And Hussey pointed
Speaker 1: out because we were talking about it, you know, like
Speaker 1: this was one of the tenth pole games of the
Speaker 1: regular season. This was that, Hey, we're going to you
Speaker 1: know what do they call it, Touchdown Pacific and we're
Speaker 1: doing all that and the big you know, standout kind.
Speaker 2: Of all that stuff.
Speaker 1: So you have all the media mail, you know, meet,
Speaker 1: all the eyes on this and what I don't like
Speaker 1: about it, and like you said, I love far Han,
Speaker 1: I love all this. I've interacted with, you know, mini
Speaker 1: media members, the Jamolin of the world, and Derek Taylor
Speaker 1: and kind of all that stuff. There's certain people I
Speaker 1: think because of how you know, and Nathan's been on
Speaker 1: our show, I have all respect for him. Maybe obviously
Speaker 1: the BC Lions stand. There's a certain like babying of
Speaker 1: Nathan I think just because a lot of the media
Speaker 1: have covered him for so long, right because obviously far
Speaker 1: Han's covering him in high school and Okay, what's he
Speaker 1: gonna do and we got this Canadian players, he gonna
Speaker 1: go to CFL is you need to go?
Speaker 2: So you've been there.
Speaker 1: I think there's a certain sense of like we gotta
Speaker 1: protect and far Han did his little post game, I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, we're fine and we're good, Like that's not
Speaker 1: your and again all respect to Farhan, but like I
Speaker 1: think that you're viewing that through well, I feel protective
Speaker 1: of Nathan because I've been involved in hit with him
Speaker 1: this so long, right, Like, I don't take offense to
Speaker 1: that where if it wasn't someone like far Haan, I
Speaker 1: think there would be James has a comment here, you
Speaker 1: know he wouldn't have done that to an NFL reporter
Speaker 1: spoiler alert, mister wanted to be in the NFL and
Speaker 1: that's what they're doing this season. They're doing the XFL step.
Speaker 1: So if you're if you're opposed to a you know,
Speaker 1: a thirty second halftime interview, uh spoiler alert. This year,
Speaker 1: we're going to be talking to you know, Mike McDonald
Speaker 1: or whoever on the sidelines for the NFL games. Like
Speaker 1: this is something that's going to be you know, carried
Speaker 1: over from the XFL and the UFL. So like, uh,
Speaker 1: this whole like we I don't want to do that.
Speaker 1: It's only going to get worse if you ever wanted
Speaker 1: to go back to the NFL, which I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's going to happen or not. But again, it
Speaker 1: just it speaks to this like, uh again, I love
Speaker 1: da Athony. He's a you know, starting quarterback of the
Speaker 1: team that I want to see in the Gray Cup
Speaker 1: more than anything. But just it really came across and
Speaker 1: I was just really disappointed because this wasn't even week one.
Speaker 1: This was week three, and far Hunt like, well, you know,
Speaker 1: we didn't want to bother him the first week like this,
Speaker 1: he's not not a baby like you can, hey, we
Speaker 1: need to do the interview, like this is what's going
Speaker 1: on here. It's part of the job. Doing media interviews
Speaker 1: as an athlete is part.
Speaker 2: Of the job.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think it's a a certain kind of profile
Speaker 3: and a certain kind of person to be able to
Speaker 3: pull off certain stunts with the media. For example, you're
Speaker 3: not Terrell and Lynch, Marshall Lynch. I'm just here, so
Speaker 3: I'm not fine. But Marsha Lynch would also say very
Speaker 3: poignant things at times that were very like I know,
Speaker 3: the vernacular may have not been something that people were
Speaker 3: familiar with, but he said it in a way that
Speaker 3: made a lot of sense from a colloquial standpoint. He
Speaker 3: actually was very well spoken when he wanted to be,
Speaker 3: but he didn't always want it to be right. But
Speaker 3: then there's people like Terall Owens, who was just a
Speaker 3: complete circus and just loved having the camera on him, right.
Speaker 3: You know, there's people like that, and there are other
Speaker 3: There's plenty of players out there who never want to
Speaker 3: talk to anybody. A lot of them, you know, I
Speaker 3: don't know if it's a majority percentage, but a lot
Speaker 3: of them don't. I get it. But like you said,
Speaker 3: to your point, if you're going to be involved, if
Speaker 3: you really if your end goal is to be in
Speaker 3: the NFL. To be part of one of the biggest,
Speaker 3: like commercial entities in this country, you're gonna have to
Speaker 3: be part of the media scrup You're gonna just have
Speaker 3: to find a way to play along with it. And
Speaker 3: there are ways to do it. You can get you
Speaker 3: can get coached up on that. There's ways for you
Speaker 3: to be able to answer those questions and be able
Speaker 3: to you know, you could be very bureaucratic if you
Speaker 3: want to, or you can have a little bit of
Speaker 3: fun with it and be tucket cheek, or you can
Speaker 3: say certain things that reflect certain ways and your teammates
Speaker 3: when I understand but the media doesn't. There's there's a
Speaker 3: playbook for there's playbook, there's all kinds of different playbooks
Speaker 3: for this and whatever playbook that Nathan was given, Like
Speaker 3: you said, I'm not sure if it was from coach
Speaker 3: Rick Campbell, but if that's the case, it wasn't the
Speaker 3: right one to use in that situation, especially like you said,
Speaker 3: this was a market game. This is a this was
Speaker 3: a flagship game on the schedule before the season even started.
Speaker 3: This was a va considering that he started. Now Roor
Speaker 3: comes back into the fold and he gets to play
Speaker 3: in his home talent, like, I mean, that's even bigger.
Speaker 3: I think. I think it just blew up because of
Speaker 3: that too, because it was such an important mashup and
Speaker 3: they played so well in the first half, so you're thinking, wow,
Speaker 3: he's got to be And that's the other thing. It's
Speaker 3: almost like ironic. You're thinking, like, oh, he's got to
Speaker 3: be in such fit, like he's got to be in
Speaker 3: great spirits to talk. And then that's the interview good.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you threw like three picks, okay, maybe
Speaker 3: I would understand. But he played exceedingly well in the
Speaker 3: first half. That was the last that that's one of
Speaker 3: the last INSS. I think he would be short with
Speaker 3: somebody from the media standpoint.
Speaker 1: Last thing on this and then I'm pulling up the
Speaker 1: game here so we can talk about that. We can
Speaker 1: start with the with the you know, touchdown Pacific just
Speaker 1: and then the whole cause again that you then you
Speaker 1: I try not to get into the two arguing whatever
Speaker 1: on on Twitter.
Speaker 2: Be like, well, see those interviews are pointless.
Speaker 1: So that this actually did better because it went viral,
Speaker 1: so like maybe that was like you're just being argumentative,
Speaker 1: like the whole well, we don't care about this like, Okay,
Speaker 1: well you've carried every other game and every other time
Speaker 1: and every other Like I just I'm tired of like
Speaker 1: the excuse making anyone else would need to do it.
Speaker 2: It's something that we do.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I don't think this will be an
Speaker 1: issue moving forward.
Speaker 2: I think that will be good.
Speaker 1: Let's get to I got to present us here.
Speaker 3: I have one more thing I want to add, just
Speaker 3: real quick. Just I think one of the things I
Speaker 3: just want to mention about this is that I think
Speaker 3: from your standpoint, I know you can attest to this.
Speaker 3: The Canadian media really gravitates sort of people when they
Speaker 3: feel like they're in their fold right, when they really
Speaker 3: feel like you're part of the ecosystem, they really pay
Speaker 3: attention to you, and it can feel tremendously important because
Speaker 3: the country is obviously, from a standpoint of how many
Speaker 3: people are there, it could be a lot smaller than
Speaker 3: the US, so it feels a lot more important. Like
Speaker 3: I think, if anybody wants context, I think you should
Speaker 3: go read Paul Wood's book on Rocket iss Mail and
Speaker 3: the Toronto Argonauts. In ninety one, Rocket is Mail got
Speaker 3: paid a lot of money and he had to do
Speaker 3: a lot of media stuff, and quite frankly, he did
Speaker 3: not sound like he wanted to do a lot of
Speaker 3: media stuff. He was young, he had he had money,
Speaker 3: he wanted to just live his life, and he had
Speaker 3: to do the media stuff because it was like, you're
Speaker 3: the biggest thing since slice bread. You were going to
Speaker 3: save our league and and I think it was just
Speaker 3: a lot of expectation on him. And I wonder sometimes
Speaker 3: if Rourke feels that way, and I get that. I
Speaker 3: get it from that standpoint. I do, because it is
Speaker 3: a lot of pressure. But if you hold yourself accountable
Speaker 3: in terms of being somebody who can playing something like
Speaker 3: the NFL, that pressure is gonna be there. You have
Speaker 3: to expect that. So it kind of goes both ways.
Speaker 3: I get it from a standpoint of it being a
Speaker 3: little bit overwhelming, but that's that's just that's part of
Speaker 3: the games. It's this is what's going to be part
Speaker 3: of also.
Speaker 1: And the last thing was then when he uh they
Speaker 1: were and then they pulled him after the game, because
Speaker 1: my other thing was and then he was complaining after
Speaker 1: the game, was like, well, uh, you know, I even
Speaker 1: came like you were talking. I was talking to my family,
Speaker 1: my great aunt whatever, and you pulled me over here
Speaker 1: and like he gave a grand and people are like, oh,
Speaker 1: we'll see.
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's not how I read that.
Speaker 1: I read that as like I'm kind of being passive aggressive,
Speaker 1: like and again, if that's not the case, don't say, like,
Speaker 1: well I was. I was talking to my great aunt
Speaker 1: and I came over here. You guys had me come
Speaker 1: over here and do this, and like.
Speaker 2: Is the post game?
Speaker 1: Like this isn't JV football, This is the post game
Speaker 1: of the Touchdown Pacific. Anyway, I got very, very agitated
Speaker 1: with all that stuff, but this was a good game.
Speaker 1: I really feel like Zach here was in to Chad
Speaker 1: asking and the wee can talking with Jack later talking
Speaker 1: about you know, wait, do we get back to a
Speaker 1: regular schedule, Like, but there's stuff to talk about, and
Speaker 1: I'm talking about right now, we go play fantasy. I've
Speaker 1: made whatever in the heck Brandon's doing fantasy. Made go
Speaker 1: watch this.
Speaker 2: Free football invitational whatever the hell that is.
Speaker 1: But I feel like I like, in the absence here
Speaker 1: of a couple of weeks, did I miss like the
Speaker 1: Dark Ages of the Lions. I know that Hussy and
Speaker 1: I did the one? Was it two weeks ago and
Speaker 1: then after the big Nathan Work debut.
Speaker 2: But like, okay, we'd.
Speaker 1: Beat outaway here, kick the snot out of them, We
Speaker 1: played good defense. Like, what was your overall take of
Speaker 1: this game? Because, as you know, I've been very down
Speaker 1: on the Lions and Rick Campbell this season.
Speaker 3: Well for the last five weeks, rightfully, so this is
Speaker 3: the worst era of the Rick Campbell at tenure in BC.
Speaker 3: They played awful. They were all out of sorts. Their
Speaker 3: offense looked out of sync, their defense was just getting
Speaker 3: absolutely crushed this game. On the other hand, this was
Speaker 3: the Nathan Work that they paid for. He looked fantastic.
Speaker 3: His footwork was on point. Even when he got pressured
Speaker 3: in the pocket, he was able to step up. He
Speaker 3: made some brilliant passes to Justin mckinnis, got Keon Hatcher involved,
Speaker 3: got Alexander Hollins, evolved a little bit more. He's still
Speaker 3: not reaching the same numbers that he had earlier in
Speaker 3: the season, but he at least got him a touchdown,
Speaker 3: which I think hopefully hopefully expand this confidence going forward. Really,
Speaker 3: the biggest thing for me is that they showcased Williams standback.
Speaker 3: He looked like that's exactly the kind of guy that
Speaker 3: they brought in this offseason to try and jump start
Speaker 3: this rud game, which I've noticed has gotten a lot
Speaker 3: more potent since Rorke stepped into the lineup. Specifically, I'm
Speaker 3: not sure what it is, but when Va was in
Speaker 3: there really pass heavy, they didn't really want to get
Speaker 3: the run game going very much. They couldn't really get
Speaker 3: a lot of lanes going. But for some reason, with
Speaker 3: Rourke in there, I think part of it is that
Speaker 3: Rorke is willing to use his legs a lot and
Speaker 3: is willing to run a lot more. I think I
Speaker 3: can't remember who brought up the comment, but they said, well,
Speaker 3: what has he got to lose. He's he can get.
Speaker 3: He doesn't really worry about getting injured. He could just
Speaker 3: go out there and play. Maybe it was one of
Speaker 3: the three down guys, but they basically it seems like
Speaker 3: he's playing unafraid, which for the first couple of weeks
Speaker 3: was leading to a lot of errors. But now with
Speaker 3: this ability to not worry about, well, I don't know
Speaker 3: if I'm going to get a training camp in fight,
Speaker 3: he doesn't have to worry about that. Now he could
Speaker 3: just go play VA. It always felt like they kind
Speaker 3: of handled with with gloves. It was like, Okay, let's
Speaker 3: just make sure we don't break the shiny, the shiny
Speaker 3: diamond that we have. And I think because of that,
Speaker 3: this offense looked the best it's looked all season. Uh
Speaker 3: maybe save for that first half of It's Hamilton earlier
Speaker 3: in the season when they just absolutely blew the doors
Speaker 3: off the tie Cats in the first quarter. Uh, this
Speaker 3: was just a really the first half was just really
Speaker 3: a clinic. It was a complete clinic by this offense,
Speaker 3: and the best that they've looked at in weeks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this was exciting. It was cool.
Speaker 1: I got, you know, watching the recap whatever, a really
Speaker 1: cool atmosphere ride.
Speaker 2: I think that was everything they wanted. I wish they would,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: I think I think in an eighteen week season, we
Speaker 1: can do a touchdown in Atlantic and a touchdown Pacific.
Speaker 2: I don't think we need to have just one or
Speaker 2: the other. But that was really cool.
Speaker 1: I liked having BC kind of involved in the Labor
Speaker 1: Day weekend matchups, right, and I know we try to
Speaker 1: do kind of the rivalry games and trying to Hamilton
Speaker 1: and kind of all that stuff. That was cool for that,
Speaker 1: Like you said, getting standback involved. I know that Jason
Speaker 1: has been you knowed down, was that the back that
Speaker 1: we need to come in here and really compete against
Speaker 1: all of eras of the world and everything else when
Speaker 1: it comes to November time getting him more involved? Are
Speaker 1: we do we feel more bullish on him now in
Speaker 1: that regard? And then I have a fall up question
Speaker 1: about Vernon here.
Speaker 3: Once you get through that, yeah, I kind of sympathize
Speaker 3: a little bit with what jac has been saying. I'm
Speaker 3: not sure if he's necessarily feedback for them to solve
Speaker 3: their troubles. I don't know if that would have meant
Speaker 3: they go after someone like Kadem Carry who's had a
Speaker 3: solid season. Do you try to trade for somebody like
Speaker 3: reichwall Armstead, which I don't think is going to happen.
Speaker 3: I think Ottowa's very happy with him, know you know,
Speaker 3: could you have gotten someone like London Fletcher obviously was
Speaker 3: an unknown commodity and now he's had a very good
Speaker 3: year with Montreal. I don't know if they could have
Speaker 3: gone after him. It's hard to say. Like if there
Speaker 3: was a magic formula again in the CFL, obviously running
Speaker 3: is not as important, but they need to have. It
Speaker 3: was just having that physical element, right. They just needed
Speaker 3: to have something that they could use to play as
Speaker 3: a chess piece against Winnipeg. And I don't know, I'm
Speaker 3: still not sure if Williams Standback's that case. What I'm
Speaker 3: more impressed with is his cashing ability. I did not
Speaker 3: realize he was so multipurpose. I do not remember him
Speaker 3: being like that in Montreal at all, so the fact
Speaker 3: that they're kind of using him in two different ways
Speaker 3: is really interesting. I guess they were already doing that
Speaker 3: with James Butler when he was there, so maybe that
Speaker 3: was the plan all along. So it's still encouraging. I'm
Speaker 3: still not sure about their offensive line. I think Nathan
Speaker 3: does a really good job of mitigating all that pressure
Speaker 3: that he gets on him, and with William Standback getting involved,
Speaker 3: now maybe they can have Maybe they won't have explosive runs,
Speaker 3: but they'll have enough to kind of keep the defense
Speaker 3: guessing a little bit and they'll be able to work
Speaker 3: play action. So I mean the Jacy's what. I don't know. Yes,
Speaker 3: maybe William Standback's not the perfect answer, but I think
Speaker 3: he is answer that they can at least rely on
Speaker 3: a little bit.
Speaker 2: In terms of.
Speaker 1: You know, I kind of miss when we were out
Speaker 1: of town, you know, the whole signing and the salary
Speaker 1: thing and the Vernon thing.
Speaker 2: Way do we do with that? He's on the man.
Speaker 1: I think I saw today and that Campbell said they'd
Speaker 1: like be a to kind of dress a second, you know,
Speaker 1: backup here, whatever going in? I mean, full steam ahead
Speaker 1: with Nathan, what do you do with Vernon? I just
Speaker 1: kind of thoughts on that whole thing because I want
Speaker 1: to get your thoughts on the Red Blacks as well.
Speaker 1: But I mean, like, this is really now you bring
Speaker 1: it in bets and I think I saw two more
Speaker 1: guys the Lions are signing. I mean, this is as
Speaker 1: all in as you could be for someone that screamed
Speaker 1: for the Mariners to go all in for decades. I
Speaker 1: mean this is about Does this feel like this is
Speaker 1: make or break right now for the Lions?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, absolutely. They're going for broke and I think
Speaker 3: they're just willing to pay a luxury tax down the line.
Speaker 3: They don't care if they're going all in. It is
Speaker 3: a little bit like Montreal last season, but Montreal was
Speaker 3: more quiet and methodical, where it was Okay, well Sank,
Speaker 3: He's coming on board. Okay, now Lemon's starting to get hot,
Speaker 3: and then we brought him on board. It wasn't as
Speaker 3: publicized obviously, with the lines, of course, it's gonna be huge.
Speaker 3: It's like you're bringing back the defensive player of the year.
Speaker 3: You're bringing back this golden boy back into the fold.
Speaker 3: Of course, it's going to be very publicized. It's in
Speaker 3: your building. Montreal was a lot quieter and they were
Speaker 3: a lot more undervalue too. Montreal we all thought was
Speaker 3: just gonna be a five hundred team and they might
Speaker 3: win a playoff game, but there wasn't really any expectation there.
Speaker 3: BC has all the expectation. They have everything to lose
Speaker 3: and not a lot of game. If they don't make
Speaker 3: the Great Cup. I think it's a field season. If
Speaker 3: they don't make the Great Cup. I think that's the expectation,
Speaker 3: and I understand why. I do think that they have
Speaker 3: a chance. I mean, they're lucky that they play in
Speaker 3: the West because the West has just been an absolute
Speaker 3: mess this entire city. So even with the five game
Speaker 3: losing streak, they're still right there. Yes, they lost the
Speaker 3: tiebreaker of the win Pig. That's unfortunate, so they kind
Speaker 3: of have to hope things don't go well there, which
Speaker 3: depending on zach Klar's status, we'll see. But they they're
Speaker 3: very much at it. They but they have to They
Speaker 3: still need to get that one seat. They have to
Speaker 3: get that one seat if they want this to pay off.
Speaker 2: In terms of.
Speaker 1: The physicality of the team, I know far Had, I
Speaker 1: like these little post games.
Speaker 2: He's doing these little little que's.
Speaker 1: He's like talking about the physicality, talking about the tackling,
Speaker 1: talking about the defense.
Speaker 2: Things I I hammered on and not.
Speaker 1: That I think they think they're pretty obvious when we're
Speaker 1: like missing wide up and receivers and things on defense,
Speaker 1: But like for that side of it, because to me,
Speaker 1: you can bring to Nathan and do all the you know,
Speaker 1: I'll score all the points in the world, but if
Speaker 1: you're not holding the team. It was like last week,
Speaker 1: they just all the way, just ran all over BC.
Speaker 1: Thoughts on that side of it, and I guess we'll
Speaker 1: talk to red blocks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's the thing. If if Bets could
Speaker 3: supply a pass rush, which I absolutely he already got
Speaker 3: a sack in this game, you absolutely can If they
Speaker 3: can have more of a pass rush and play from
Speaker 3: in front they have all the potential in the world,
Speaker 3: but playing from behind, this is where the team gets
Speaker 3: in trouble. I don't know what's going to happen if
Speaker 3: they get in an environment where they have to start
Speaker 3: running the ball and they can't throw it as proficiently
Speaker 3: as they want to. I win a peg in the
Speaker 3: middle of November, they have to. Again, that's a dangerous
Speaker 3: game that they're playing. So that's why I'm saying they
Speaker 3: have to get that one seats, because the physical elements
Speaker 3: are not there for them to play in harsh weather
Speaker 3: like that. This is very much a dome team, and
Speaker 3: I know that's seen as a slight in football. I
Speaker 3: get it because it implies that you're soft as far
Speaker 3: as being able to play outdoors. I don't think that's
Speaker 3: the case for every single dome team. I think it's
Speaker 3: just the way that certainly the Lions, unfortunately are the
Speaker 3: stereotypical definition of a dome team. I'm sorry to say,
Speaker 3: but that's not to say they can't win. They just
Speaker 3: have to be able to force other team's hands. Like
Speaker 3: Ottawa just kind of ran out of answers. They seemed
Speaker 3: scattered after the first half. They really did have much
Speaker 3: of a Even with Drew Brown's performances this year, it
Speaker 3: just seemed like it was too much for them to handle.
Speaker 3: Their defense got scorched by this BC attack. So if they,
Speaker 3: like I said, if they play a certain way, I
Speaker 3: thought they'll be fine. But not every opponent's gonna let
Speaker 3: them play that way.
Speaker 1: No, he reminds me of I think it was yesterday
Speaker 1: I saw there, like, you know, Jared Goff's schedule this season,
Speaker 1: and it was like Dome, Dome, Dome, Dome by Dome Dome,
Speaker 1: Lamba Field Dome.
Speaker 2: Don't You're like, you know, maybe hey, they paid him
Speaker 2: the money.
Speaker 1: Like if you know your quarterback is going to play
Speaker 1: in the dome eighty percent of the time, let's.
Speaker 2: Talk Ottawa here.
Speaker 1: I was like it was so funny. I'm like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: Richard l oh yeah yeah, remember that like fake punt.
Speaker 2: That was kind of exciting. Rigie lady.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: We had the news today, all right, Armstead getting let
Speaker 1: go right, Odawa bringing in and you back right? Did
Speaker 1: I track all that? I was kind of catching up
Speaker 1: today after being out of town.
Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting point there. I you know, for Armstead, he's
Speaker 3: had again, like I thought he was having a pretty
Speaker 3: solid season, but obviously had that game where he got
Speaker 3: kicked out in the first half after having the two
Speaker 3: misconduct penalties. I'm trying to remember exactly which opponent that
Speaker 3: was Calgary. It was against Calgary, and I don't know.
Speaker 3: Maybe they just haven't really found a way to use him. Obviously,
Speaker 3: Drew Brown has been relied on a lot, and he's
Speaker 3: come through in a lot of situations. They haven't had
Speaker 3: to use the running game as much. I still believe
Speaker 3: in his talent a lot. In fact, I think PC
Speaker 3: should start looking at him because I do believe that
Speaker 3: he would supply a nice change of pace to stand back.
Speaker 3: I really, I do believe that. I think he actually
Speaker 3: would be a good addition. But for whatever reason, maybe
Speaker 3: him and Bob Dice just did not get along. He
Speaker 3: was the lead back, so clearly whatever transition here. I mean,
Speaker 3: I know he's been in and out of the lineup
Speaker 3: a little bit, so maybe it was just from a
Speaker 3: consistency standpoint. But I'm not shocked, Like I'm not shocked
Speaker 3: by it. I'm a little bit surprised, maybe just because
Speaker 3: I think it's a bit of a risky move to
Speaker 3: do that when you're already an above five hundred team
Speaker 3: and things have been going pretty well for you, but
Speaker 3: maybe Ottawa just thought it wasn't going to really last
Speaker 3: the rest of the season.
Speaker 2: I like, how, yeah, bring him into BC.
Speaker 1: I like how I think it was it two years
Speaker 1: ago we're like, is BC buying the Gray Cup because
Speaker 1: they had named him more like the rookie deal, and
Speaker 1: then they were not, you know, okay, we got paid lug,
Speaker 1: Why yeah, I can make.
Speaker 2: Can Hatcher, we gotta do all that stuff.
Speaker 1: And then now it's like they're still doing that bark
Speaker 1: like I mean not this season obviously, like eight hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. I like that, like Amarge just bringing in
Speaker 1: let's bring an armstead, uh Brown, you know I Ottawa's
Speaker 1: looks really good because you know, I keep It's one
Speaker 1: of those things I'm like, I get into this a
Speaker 1: lot with like Dorothy when we're talking about like, you know,
Speaker 1: whatever sports could be, Hockey could be, NFL could be whatever,
Speaker 1: And she's like, oh, like, aren't the I thought the Lions.
Speaker 2: Weren't good And you're like the Detroit.
Speaker 1: Lions just like like, well, no, they're kind of good now, right.
Speaker 1: It's kind of that way with me with Ottawa, where
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I mean they are here, I mean
Speaker 1: seven and three. Second in the west, I mean there
Speaker 1: are excuse me, second in the east above Toronto.
Speaker 2: Here.
Speaker 1: I'm amazed to see Montreal already with a playoff clinch
Speaker 1: here with the next on that, I guess it shouldn't
Speaker 1: be that surprising. But that's just on Ottaway as a
Speaker 1: hole here as we're kind of, you know, past the
Speaker 1: liborty part of the season.
Speaker 3: They're scrappy, man. And look, I I know John Hodge
Speaker 3: has been putting this stat out every single week. He
Speaker 3: is befuddled by the fact that this team has a
Speaker 3: minus point differential. It somehow has a way above five
Speaker 3: hundred record. But look, they played really well at home. Again,
Speaker 3: they play exceptionally well at home. They get blown out
Speaker 3: on the road, They've gotten absolutely boat raced on the road,
Speaker 3: but at home for whatever reason, and it just got
Speaker 3: some home cooking going on there. Maybe you could argue
Speaker 3: that for the command center and that tie because Saskatchewan.
Speaker 3: I'm sure some Rider fans would attest to that. But look,
Speaker 3: this seems scrappy. I really like what Drew Brown has done.
Speaker 3: He just finds a way to use all of his playmakers,
Speaker 3: when Khalil Pimpleton's ever in the lineup, when Justin Hardy's
Speaker 3: in there, who also got nicked up. So you know,
Speaker 3: some of their playmakers are also starting to get hurt here,
Speaker 3: which maybe is starting to affect their offense. But no,
Speaker 3: I mean they're just scrappy. They're winning close games this
Speaker 3: year that they weren't last year. I was very critical
Speaker 3: of Bob Dice in his operation as lack of game
Speaker 3: management skills last year. Well, they've improved a lot, especially
Speaker 3: at home. They've gotten a lot better at that and
Speaker 3: take advantage of that. If Ottawa can somehow host a
Speaker 3: playoff game this year, I think that would be a
Speaker 3: tremendous success. It'd be great. It'd be all I mean,
Speaker 3: I think from here on out all great for them
Speaker 3: because there really wasn't any expectation, but they get that.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's a humongous success, it really is. And
Speaker 3: I'd be over the moon for those fans, because those
Speaker 3: Autawa fans, despite everything that's been going on in the CFL,
Speaker 3: whether it's financially or whether it's you know, transitioning pieces
Speaker 3: coming out of COVID, those fans kept showing up somehow,
Speaker 3: some way, even in terrible weather, they those fans would
Speaker 3: still show up. So all credit to them. I think
Speaker 3: they absolutely deserve to have a playoff game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just remember I think it was the first
Speaker 1: season we were covering like where I was really because
Speaker 1: now I've kind of given up on like watching a
Speaker 1: lot of the games like real time, Like I'll just
Speaker 1: devote Monday or today too, say that's kind of my catchup.
Speaker 1: I just can't like because then I'm why, I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: well I'm just wasted, Like let me just kind of
Speaker 1: consolidate my efforts on this step. But I remember I
Speaker 1: watching some of those, Yeah, like the Thursday right now
Speaker 1: game in autumn with like eight hundred people like this
Speaker 1: is but hey, you know it's a far cry from
Speaker 1: all that. Anything else on this I want we might
Speaker 1: go a little bit over the hour.
Speaker 2: I know, you have to work.
Speaker 1: I hear a little bit anything else on that game
Speaker 1: where we can start moving towards the big Labor Day classic.
Speaker 3: I mean, again, can this be a launch pad for PC?
Speaker 3: That's really the question here, is this is the start
Speaker 3: of something, at the start of a new streak. That's
Speaker 3: really the biggest question. I have coming out of this.
Speaker 3: I think it can be we'll see, but I mean
Speaker 3: they had to stop the freight train for running off
Speaker 3: the tracks any further. It was starting to get really dire.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's go here again.
Speaker 1: We've used this joke already somehow Palpatine return to Winnipeg,
Speaker 1: back here leading the I just tweeted last night. I
Speaker 1: think it was last whatever it was pain and all
Speaker 1: that kind of going on. Clara's right got knocked out
Speaker 1: of the games. Trevor had to finish that as Saskatchewan
Speaker 1: missed either field goal kick there at the end didn't
Speaker 1: have the distance. I group Chatty dam like I would
Speaker 1: have been very upset if I was a rough Righter fan.
Speaker 1: I think we came back and lost that game when
Speaker 1: the kick thoughts on this one, I mean, this always delivers,
Speaker 1: like used that big, huge crowd that really rockets environment
Speaker 1: in Saskatchewan.
Speaker 3: The Sasketchwe team is just snake bit. I don't know
Speaker 3: what it is, but they just have found a way
Speaker 3: to lose or tie in these last weeks. It's really
Speaker 3: unfortunate for them. I mean, they've had just some of
Speaker 3: the most heartbreaking losses I've seen from a team in
Speaker 3: the stretch that I can remember. I mean, you lose,
Speaker 3: You lose to Montreal because Bret Laher goes three for
Speaker 3: seven on field goals even though you play it really
Speaker 3: an outstanding game, and then obviously did he did he
Speaker 3: not step out of bounds play by David Alexander. You
Speaker 3: go to Ottawa and I quite frankly, I'm going to
Speaker 3: be on rough Rider fans. I think they got a
Speaker 3: win stolen from them, although I would say both teams
Speaker 3: got to win stolen from them by the command center.
Speaker 3: But you know, we don't have to get into that
Speaker 3: any further than that's already been discussed. I mean, you
Speaker 3: keep losing these close games. Game in gave out. Even
Speaker 3: with Trevor Harris back, who's playing very well, is complete,
Speaker 3: your percentage is really high. He's getting a lot of yards.
Speaker 3: I would have thought that was the magic formula to
Speaker 3: start playing better. And for some reason, since he's come
Speaker 3: back to the lineup, they stopped playing defense. It's like
Speaker 3: they played only could play defense when Jaye Patterson's in there,
Speaker 3: but as soon as rubber Hair steps on the field,
Speaker 3: they're like, well he's got it, so we don't have
Speaker 3: to try it. It's really unfortunate because I mean Zach Laros,
Speaker 3: who was playing outstanding the first half. I think that
Speaker 3: was the best half you've played all year, gets knocked
Speaker 3: Out's Chris Trevelick comes in. You can't throw the ball
Speaker 3: pass five yards and you're thinking, oh, they got a chance,
Speaker 3: like they can start honding in on him. The end
Speaker 3: of this game was nuts. I'm not sure if anyone
Speaker 3: watched the sequence at the end of this game, but
Speaker 3: it was absolutely out of control. You have a case
Speaker 3: where Saskatchewan is driving to tie the game and get
Speaker 3: a touchdown on a two point conversion. Somehow managed to
Speaker 3: get a two point conversion off penalty. Then they get
Speaker 3: or sorry, they get the touchdown, they don't get the
Speaker 3: two point conversion. You're thinking, there's fourteen seconds left. You're like, well,
Speaker 3: there's no way get an on sidekick, and you're like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, in.
Speaker 1: Saying on sidekick with what's is Willie Jefferson, right, try
Speaker 1: to try to grab it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Willie Jefferson trying to get it. Doesn't happen. They
Speaker 3: get the ball, Harris immediately throws a pick. Then there's
Speaker 3: a flag for pass interference. Yeah, and then they get
Speaker 3: in the field goal range. Here comes Lawhert, but it's
Speaker 3: sixty yards out. You're thinking, can this get there? You
Speaker 3: see the ball go up and it's online. You're like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, are they going to win this game?
Speaker 3: And it falls short. It's like the biggest teas in
Speaker 3: the world. I just want I just wanted to say
Speaker 3: all that, because yeah, it was just a whirlwind and
Speaker 3: that's been unfortunately for Sketch one. They have just been
Speaker 3: on the wrong end of the whirlwind the last six weeks.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: And it was a weird game because like Mario Alford, right,
Speaker 1: he missed one of the kickoffs and they got the
Speaker 1: touchdown off that. I mean, it was just kind of
Speaker 1: a sloppy game that way. In general, I thought, Saskatchewan, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we've always said this with Winnipeg, like you really have
Speaker 1: to play It's like you're playing the Chiefs. You really
Speaker 1: got to play a really near perfect game, right, You
Speaker 1: can't give them any of that kind of stuff. And
Speaker 1: you look back at that, if Mario, if Alfred hadn't
Speaker 1: babbled that, and he's so like he's so reliable and
Speaker 1: electric and gets you like, you know, but there you go.
Speaker 1: You know, you give them seven points right, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's something that to keep in mind there. And then yeah,
Speaker 1: the kick and Lucky White, hey catching it. I mean,
Speaker 1: the whole thing was really tremendously exciting. And yeah it
Speaker 1: was because I obviously knew that the Winnipeg took the win.
Speaker 2: There, we'll see.
Speaker 1: I mean, Saskatchwan, they really seem to always trade back
Speaker 1: and forth. I feel like it was that way last
Speaker 1: year too. But I think Saskatchewan kind of really fell
Speaker 1: off the cliff last year following the manageable It's like
Speaker 1: they lost seven in a row or whatever after that.
Speaker 2: So hopefully they don't with that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, the Trevor Harris thing, I think it was
Speaker 1: with the offer and where we were, you know, lost
Speaker 1: the ball in the end zone, like Trevor Harris like
Speaker 1: putting his helmet on, and this is like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: not doing not doing that right now. So anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I really really crazy game here. As I break my microphone,
Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure what I did there.
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, And for for Winnipeg, I mean they they
Speaker 3: just escaped by the skin of their teeth. But see,
Speaker 3: the that's the opposite team. Everything's coming up roases for them. Recently,
Speaker 3: they're winning these close games. They're getting outstanding defensive efforts
Speaker 3: now here. Of course, obviously they gave up a lot
Speaker 3: of passing yards. But this has been again, this is
Speaker 3: a zombie team. They just somehow find a way to
Speaker 3: keep in the games. They stay around, and this team
Speaker 3: will not die. They're like you said, you can't really
Speaker 3: play a bad game against them, because if you do,
Speaker 3: you're not gonna win. Although Toronto somehow managed to get
Speaker 3: one of those weird squeaker width against them, But other
Speaker 3: than that, things have been working really well for Winnipeg
Speaker 3: the last few weeks. You have to wonder about their
Speaker 3: offense though. If Zach Lauss is out for any extended
Speaker 3: period of time, I mean, this offense just kind of
Speaker 3: dies with Streggling. I like Streggler as a run option,
Speaker 3: but as far as being the main sickle color and
Speaker 3: just it's really it's just really stymied. And then Brady
Speaker 3: ell Evre can't get involved. It's it's really tough to
Speaker 3: kind of continue the attack that way. So for Winnipeg
Speaker 3: is just about health. Can they stay healthy and can
Speaker 3: they keep you know, can they keep Kenny Lawler in there?
Speaker 3: Can they keep Nick Demsky. Can they keep their guys
Speaker 3: healthy enough to be able to get to the season,
Speaker 3: because it was really a struggle the first month, and
Speaker 3: a lot of it because of injuries.
Speaker 1: You dered vat did him in the ath later on,
Speaker 1: like the whole Wow, we didn't want we didn't keep
Speaker 1: Drew Brown, right, we didn't keep like a true backup
Speaker 1: where you look at you look at BC and we
Speaker 1: talk about you know, work goes down, VA comes in.
Speaker 1: Obviously not quite a bit, but it's just similar, right,
Speaker 1: I mean they played that similar run. I mean, you
Speaker 1: obviously love Vernon and everything with the Oregon Like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I just I'm curious that way, Like you said,
Speaker 1: Streveler can't come in and throw the ball more than
Speaker 1: ten yards on the field, Like, I don't know if
Speaker 1: that would be something just something to keep in mind here.
Speaker 1: I know, Claire, I think Jeff Hamilton was saying, I
Speaker 1: think they're off today and then they were gonna practice tomorrow.
Speaker 1: I was trying to get some reports of kind of
Speaker 1: all that stuff. But yeah, certainly interesting anything else on
Speaker 1: this one.
Speaker 3: No, I just for me again, I just feel for
Speaker 3: rough Rider fans. Honestly, I know they're a rowdy bunch,
Speaker 3: but this is all I mean, this is awful. At
Speaker 3: this point. You just know you don't know if you
Speaker 3: can win these close games. And they've seen deja buf
Speaker 3: in the past two years, like you said, losing seven
Speaker 3: games in a row down the stretch and missing the
Speaker 3: playoffs altogether after you had a pretty decent start. Again,
Speaker 3: you know, it's up to Corey Mace to really kind
Speaker 3: of figure out what's the problem here. And again I
Speaker 3: don't think it's quarterback play because Trevor Harris has been
Speaker 3: really good coming back from injury. I like the offense
Speaker 3: in general, the receivers and everything, but just something goes
Speaker 3: off this again, this defense just gives up these huge
Speaker 3: plays for some reason, even though they had it all
Speaker 3: figured out for about a month. So I don't know
Speaker 3: what consistency wise, it's just one thing or another and
Speaker 3: they just have to find a way to hold strong
Speaker 3: in the last quarter.
Speaker 2: Let's get out here.
Speaker 1: So this is exciting, and like I said that, Jason
Speaker 1: will actually be like, hey, you know, going to the game,
Speaker 1: this was like a sellout. I think like James has
Speaker 1: a comment here and they chat. You know, great crowds
Speaker 1: this weekend. I think, yeah, Hamilton, what were they like
Speaker 1: two in what were they two and two and nine
Speaker 1: before the weekend they get to obviously get to win.
Speaker 1: I'm like, heck, yeah, man, sellout, show out, beautiful day.
Speaker 2: Labor Day, hanging out in the hammer. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think Marshall Ferguson was talking on there. Jack, do
Speaker 1: you have any comments on the I guess well, I
Speaker 1: was made the joke Jack Kelly immediately comes out there
Speaker 1: as an interception that was if you're on your anti
Speaker 1: RGOs bandwagon, that was exciting. But we're getting the no
Speaker 1: means no chance and the signs and stuff like.
Speaker 2: Are we okay with Like what's your thoughts on that?
Speaker 1: Because I'm kind of curious, like just how prevalent this
Speaker 1: has remained since Chad came back. And then obviously thoughts
Speaker 1: on the game we can segue into.
Speaker 3: I mean, the CFL decided to play that game. They're
Speaker 3: hoping it just dies out eventually. I don't know if
Speaker 3: they're playing the long game here. And so with the argos,
Speaker 3: the argos just said we're hitching our wagon to Chad Kelly,
Speaker 3: and by gones speak bygones as far as what the
Speaker 3: determination is on who he is as a person. It's
Speaker 3: not a great look for them, and it's not a
Speaker 3: great look for the CFL. But they're they're just sort
Speaker 3: of playing again. They're kind of playing a long game here,
Speaker 3: and I know that's bad to say, but that's just
Speaker 3: sort of reality as far as what his reputation is
Speaker 3: and the NFL has done notorious have been known for
Speaker 3: doing that with their players too, and who get into
Speaker 3: certain situations like this. But for Chad Kelly, I mean,
Speaker 3: he played a much better after the first quarter. The
Speaker 3: first quarter was terrible. He played a lot better after that.
Speaker 3: But I don't know what it is about the Toronto
Speaker 3: team getting these huge deficits against Hamilton on the road.
Speaker 3: This is the second time this has happened the season,
Speaker 3: and with cam Duke's is one thing. And some of
Speaker 3: the airs they made, like the fumble overturn touchdown that
Speaker 3: game was tough, but Hamilton just jumps all over them,
Speaker 3: and once again Toronto tries a furious rally, it falls short,
Speaker 3: and now here they are their third place in the
Speaker 3: East behind Ottawa, and you're wondering are they going to
Speaker 3: be able to have the horses to get that playoff game.
Speaker 3: I think they can I do believe that Chad Kelly
Speaker 3: is not really the issue here because I do think
Speaker 3: he supplies a passing game now down the field, especially
Speaker 3: that they've been lacking all season. But yeah, there's just
Speaker 3: I mean, you can see that the depth on the
Speaker 3: Toronto roster isn't there when they have injuries. This year,
Speaker 3: they are having a harder time replacing those pieces. Last year,
Speaker 3: they had all the depth in the world, didn't matter
Speaker 3: who was in there. They could plug in whoever and
Speaker 3: it didn't matter. This year it's been a different case.
Speaker 3: And even it gets a team like Hamilton who has
Speaker 3: been in the basement all year long, somehow steps up.
Speaker 3: And also credit to Boldie by Mitchell. I mean once
Speaker 3: again he was outstanding.
Speaker 2: He's seen well we'll talk, Yeah, I kind of that's.
Speaker 3: Okay, but that's the But that's the thing. It's like Toronto,
Speaker 3: I think just is having a tough time really kind
Speaker 3: of moving the pieces around when they need to, and
Speaker 3: for them, it's I think it's a bad loss. I
Speaker 3: really believe that they should have won this game. They
Speaker 3: were favored by five, there was minus five and edding,
Speaker 3: like I thought they were going to easily cover that.
Speaker 3: If you had asked me of the most safe bet
Speaker 3: I would have told you going this weekend would have
Speaker 3: been Toronto minus five because I really believed that they
Speaker 3: were going to come back with a vengeance with Chad
Speaker 3: Kelly and toe with everything involved Labor Day. I really
Speaker 3: thought they were going to come and just play the
Speaker 3: SmackDown on Hamilton, and I mean they pulled the reverse
Speaker 3: Uno card jokes on us.
Speaker 2: Well, and it was it was just weird.
Speaker 1: And I know, Chad's kind of getting his way back
Speaker 1: in and obviously we you talked to Nathan Worke getting
Speaker 1: the you know, figuring out getting back to the CFL
Speaker 1: and all that, But like even when he was running,
Speaker 1: it just kind of felt like he got to a
Speaker 1: point where it's like I got to just take this
Speaker 1: game over. And he was just kind of like running
Speaker 1: down the field and kind of just trying to get
Speaker 1: any yard that he could. Like he just felt like,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, we're gonna lose. You know, we should
Speaker 1: be winning this game. We're gonna lose this game. Like
Speaker 1: I got to take things into my own hands. What's
Speaker 1: he got here?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: Twenty four, thirty three, twenty two. But he I felt
Speaker 1: like he just ran, you know, thirty nine yard treer.
Speaker 1: I just felt like he was any of the highlights
Speaker 1: I saw, he was just kind of scurrying around for
Speaker 1: that with the Okay this season in a game here
Speaker 1: where bo is twenty of thirty three forty seven two touchdowns,
Speaker 1: he was benched earlier this season? What the heck is
Speaker 1: going on with that? And then I want to get
Speaker 1: obviously Tallua tug of Volola here with that getting the
Speaker 1: rushing touchdown, that was cool.
Speaker 2: But this bow LEVI I think I don't know what
Speaker 2: the heck is going on there in Hamilton.
Speaker 3: There's no plan, That's what's going on. They fired their
Speaker 3: defensive coordinator, they fired their special teams coordinator. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Maybe they can fire the water boy next. I'm not
Speaker 3: sure what's going on in the Hamvertown. But nothing's really
Speaker 3: worked out for them from any standpoint outside of maybe
Speaker 3: bow Lee by putting on some great numbers, but he
Speaker 3: was benched. I really my thought in the moment was
Speaker 3: this is not the reason why they have the record
Speaker 3: of U Their defense was atrocious. It still gave up
Speaker 3: a lot of yards in the second half. That's Chris
Speaker 3: Jones led unit gave up a lot of yards in
Speaker 3: the second half, but they still just they're incomplete. They
Speaker 3: don't really have they don't have a returner. I mean
Speaker 3: they've been trying to figure out somebody to repeat or
Speaker 3: replace Tyreek McAllister, who's gonna I think is gonna wreck
Speaker 3: shop and with the Raiders this year, he looks great
Speaker 3: in preseason, they don't. They never really found a replacement
Speaker 3: for him. I just don't know what the ty Cat's
Speaker 3: plan is outside of bow Lee by just chucking it
Speaker 3: down the field, which at time, which at times works,
Speaker 3: I mean it does work, but without James Butler in
Speaker 3: the lineup. That's the other thing. James Butler gets bench.
Speaker 3: Greg Bell comes in, and I mean he played played well,
Speaker 3: but like I just never seems like there's it's kind
Speaker 3: of just like three sheets to the win. Like, let's
Speaker 3: see what happens at Hamilton. I mean, Tim White obviously
Speaker 3: had a fantastic game. Great for him. He obviously it's
Speaker 3: come back from where he was earlier in the season.
Speaker 3: But I don't know, Hamilton is just so it's so
Speaker 3: weird and ham fisted. It's just kind of like a
Speaker 3: one note offense. And good for bow LEVI like I said,
Speaker 3: he's playing outstanding. He's leading the league, and so he's
Speaker 3: leading the league in yards and touchdowns, Like he's playing
Speaker 3: outstanding considering all that he's gone through the last four years.
Speaker 3: But I just don't understand what Hamilton's plan is with Well,
Speaker 3: let's just throw in Taylor Powell and see what happens.
Speaker 3: Like if you're gonna have a developmental project, have a
Speaker 3: developmental project and I don't know, don't have bow leave
Speaker 3: I come back this season Again, there really didn't seem
Speaker 3: like there was a rhyme or reason to what they
Speaker 3: were doing this year, and it's kind of showed for
Speaker 3: the most part.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like the brave part.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh yeah, Chris Jones is over there as well,
Speaker 1: because it feels like a lifetime ago where they brought
Speaker 1: that signing in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: The bow LEVI kind of feels like the Kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: things like Kirk's you know he's on pace for forty
Speaker 1: two's like yeah, but the team is go do whatever
Speaker 1: he wants to, Like, it doesn't not gonna make a difference.
Speaker 1: Do you want to shout out Tagabola here and getting
Speaker 1: the rushing touchdown right to his brother.
Speaker 3: Is it yep, it's to his brother. It's Talia. I
Speaker 3: mean he was just throwing touchdown passes in Maryland like
Speaker 3: ten you know, ten months ago Talia was And that's
Speaker 3: great for him see him get such early action, A
Speaker 3: nice little read option, play fake there on the goal line,
Speaker 3: you get that touchdown run. I don't know how much
Speaker 3: they're gonna involve him in the offense, but if they're
Speaker 3: gonna do stuff like that, you know, all the power
Speaker 3: to them. I think it's great to see him get
Speaker 3: such early action. So I mean it's a it's a
Speaker 3: project thing, right, like you have these developmental projects, especially
Speaker 3: with quarterbacks in the CFL, where you don't really know
Speaker 3: what they can do early on in their careers. This
Speaker 3: first year is really tough learning the offense. We'll see
Speaker 3: if he keeps this as a long term prospect or
Speaker 3: if he finds who knows, if he finds a job
Speaker 3: down south. Maybe maybe you can poke Mike McDaniels a
Speaker 3: little bit and say like, hey, you know, it's all
Speaker 3: in the family, right, you know, keep keep him down
Speaker 3: there behind Tua. But I think for him it's great
Speaker 3: to see. We like to see names like this get involved.
Speaker 3: So but like I said, happy for Hussey, you know,
Speaker 3: good for Hamilton. They they haven't had a lot to
Speaker 3: celebrate this year, but for some reason, they just absolutely
Speaker 3: own the argos at home this year. For whatever reason.
Speaker 1: Uh, well they go, let's get into the last one here,
Speaker 1: you know, and they've been a lot of and your boy,
Speaker 1: and was this the turning point? Was Andy going up
Speaker 1: to Edmonton that used to off the top. You go
Speaker 1: in to Edmonton that turned around in the season here.
Speaker 1: Uh you know, makaw about the Thompson looks like the
Speaker 1: greatest quarterback in the world. I mean, what is your
Speaker 1: thoughts on this? Edmonton's still sitting at four and eight,
Speaker 1: which is kind of surprising just given kind of that
Speaker 1: it's not kicking and they gave the Calgary there, but
Speaker 1: that thoughts on this one? A Calgary dropping one at
Speaker 1: home to a pretty packed at McMahon Stadium.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's what happens when you start off the
Speaker 3: season oh and seven. You you kind of dig a
Speaker 3: giant hole. But as I said, you're only two games
Speaker 3: behind Winnipeg first place. So Edmonton's in it. They have
Speaker 3: a chance to be in it. They've won four out
Speaker 3: of five and I do think their defense has gotten better. McCloud.
Speaker 3: Bethel Thompson played one of his best games ever. He
Speaker 3: was outstanding. Kevin Jones also was just fantastic run after catch,
Speaker 3: he was, Oh my god, he was incredible. That that
Speaker 3: dagger throw that they had at the end of the
Speaker 3: game when they when Calgary was starting to come back
Speaker 3: and they're only down by seven, and then they just
Speaker 3: throw that bomb and it just silences the crowd like
Speaker 3: that was it. It just stones throw from MBT Uh.
Speaker 1: Well god, because yeah, it got really kind of you know,
Speaker 1: you kind of thought like, oh no, this is.
Speaker 2: This is getting out of here. You know, they're coming back.
Speaker 3: And Calgary's won those games at home this year. They've
Speaker 3: did that. Gau's Winnipeg that he gets it's Toronto, like they're
Speaker 3: not they're not dead in the water when they're at home.
Speaker 3: But to Edmonton's credit, they just kept throwing. And I
Speaker 3: mean you have three receivers here getting over one hundred yards,
Speaker 3: which is just bonkers. I really just I'm impressed with
Speaker 3: what Edmonton's done recently with or without trey Ford. I mean,
Speaker 3: obviously tray Ford added I think it was just such
Speaker 3: a breath of fresh air, and I think his injury
Speaker 3: is unfortunate. But this version of mclott Bethel Thompson that's
Speaker 3: come back in the lineup has been a lot more calmer,
Speaker 3: and I think they're just not as I mean, I
Speaker 3: know he threw for a lot of yards here, but
Speaker 3: it doesn't seem like he's stretching as much. I do
Speaker 3: think that they figured something out here, and I think
Speaker 3: the team is also starting to believe, like, hey, they're
Speaker 3: not out of it. I think they were just so
Speaker 3: demoralized by all the close losses. Again, it's kind of
Speaker 3: like what the Sketchwan's going through right now. At what
Speaker 3: point you say, oh my god, what is this going
Speaker 3: to stop? And I think that first win in Saskatchewan
Speaker 3: really jump started them and really started to get them
Speaker 3: to believe that maybe there was something to fight for.
Speaker 3: And like I said, they're not that far out of.
Speaker 2: It I have seen.
Speaker 1: And maybe it's just because my Twitter here seeing a
Speaker 1: lot of people call for Jake Mayer's head here a
Speaker 1: little bit, and like, right, Schiltz to backup, we need
Speaker 1: to start shields here going on like thoughts on this,
Speaker 1: because I mean, Jake was playing his ass off I
Speaker 1: mean he had a couple of bad interceptions there. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm four, but a couple of those who were it
Speaker 1: felt like garbage kind of time. We're just we're hugging
Speaker 1: it down, We're trying to go. They're hitting people's hands,
Speaker 1: it's bobbling in the air, they're catching it like.
Speaker 2: Thoughts on that.
Speaker 1: I mean, it just feels like people have kind of
Speaker 1: he's the guy for Calgary.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, if you're arguing what it's like with
Speaker 3: bow Levi Mitchell, where you can argue, well, there's a
Speaker 3: lot of empty calorie throws that are going on in
Speaker 3: that offense. I mean it's been kind of that way
Speaker 3: with Jake Mayor this year too. Again. I mean, he's
Speaker 3: second in the league in passing yards and he's got
Speaker 3: fifteen touchdown passes, and they are, you know, fourth place
Speaker 3: in the West. Like they but I just think this
Speaker 3: roster overall needs to get overhauled. They just don't have
Speaker 3: the talent to keep up with a lot of these
Speaker 3: other teams. I think they could. It's potentially they could
Speaker 3: end up being the worst team in the league this year.
Speaker 3: And Jake Mayor, I hate to say this, he might
Speaker 3: be either the least exciting or the most low end
Speaker 3: starter in the entire league, because if you go through
Speaker 3: every other roster, and you go through every other quarterback
Speaker 3: room with everybody else involved, you just don't really know
Speaker 3: what's there. There was excitement around him a couple of
Speaker 3: years ago, and you thought maybe there was potential for
Speaker 3: him to be one of those top end starters, but
Speaker 3: that growth hasn't come. You know, you've seen we've seen
Speaker 3: if the Chardo take a step obviously, Chad Kelly took
Speaker 3: a step last year. You've seen Bern seen Nathan Rourke,
Speaker 3: You've seen you know, Kolaros, You've seen Drew Brown. I mean,
Speaker 3: you've seen a lot of the other guys step up
Speaker 3: and be something for their team. Jake Mayor just hasn't
Speaker 3: have that happened, And unfortunately for for Dave Dickinson. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Dave Dickinson, I mean he he tied his wagon to
Speaker 3: Jake Mayer and they shipped bow out of time and said, well,
Speaker 3: this is the future. Well the future has been pretty
Speaker 3: bleak the last season and a half, and you have
Speaker 3: to wonder what's going to happen to both of them
Speaker 3: in the offseason if it keeps going this way because
Speaker 3: this has been really dour for Calgary. And again, I
Speaker 3: just think their roster overall is it's just really lacking
Speaker 3: in resources.
Speaker 1: I always remember, because it's not Craig with Calgary, it's
Speaker 1: Day with Calgary.
Speaker 2: I always remember that everyone. I mean, I'm looking here.
Speaker 1: I mean, other than this is updated, but he's fifteen
Speaker 1: touchdowns to eleven interceptions here on the CFL About cbsites,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know you're talking about fifteen touchdown passes
Speaker 1: all you want, but I mean again, it may be
Speaker 1: some Garb time interception is in there. But where I
Speaker 1: lost my I don't even know where the game is here.
Speaker 1: Let's go back to that. I don't know anyway, We'll
Speaker 1: see with Calgary with all that stuff, anything else with that,
Speaker 1: anything else with any.
Speaker 2: Of these games. I know you got to get to
Speaker 2: work here after this. I don't want to take too long.
Speaker 3: I just you know, I think it's gonna be really
Speaker 3: interesting in the West. This West race is really fascinating.
Speaker 3: I don't think BC's I think BC could potentially have
Speaker 3: new life here, but they're gonna be scrapping and clawing
Speaker 3: at the down the stretch here for the East, I
Speaker 3: mean you got some interesting games coming up here, especially
Speaker 3: this weekend. BC going to Montreal is not fine. That sucks.
Speaker 2: This is it. You want to be Nathan. This is it, buddy,
Speaker 2: this is it.
Speaker 3: If Nathan pulls this off, I think you got a
Speaker 3: new narrative. This is this changes everything. Toronto going to Ottawa.
Speaker 3: I mean, Toronto needs to win that game if they
Speaker 3: really want to have hope of being that second seed,
Speaker 3: because if Ottawa ends up pulling that off, now you're
Speaker 3: really looking at the second seed for Ottawa, which again
Speaker 3: is tremendous credit to them. If that's the case, Toronto
Speaker 3: needs to find a way to turn it around. Sasketchwe
Speaker 3: also just fighting for their lives. I mean, that would
Speaker 3: be so demoralizing, losing back to back games against Winnipeg
Speaker 3: and losing the season series too. The season series is
Speaker 3: on the line here too. This is a humongous game.
Speaker 3: The Bandob Bowl is huge on Saturday, maybe one of
Speaker 3: the most important games the remaining stretch of the season.
Speaker 1: But they normally do, like I feel like, just watch
Speaker 1: they normally these teams normally split that series. I will,
Speaker 1: We'll see, because I think last year it was the opposite. Whatever,
Speaker 1: But you know, it does feel I'd be always I
Speaker 1: would be curious if you go back ten years who
Speaker 1: swept the series there of the two game, But maybe
Speaker 1: maybe I'm making things up in my head.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, Saskatchewan already lost their on their home field.
Speaker 3: Now you go to IGU field, that's just that's a
Speaker 3: tough turn around. So we'll we'll see, we'll see what
Speaker 3: kind of spirits there. And then finally, I think Edmonton
Speaker 3: can really put the stake in the Calgary and really
Speaker 3: assume that they have a chance in this race. You know,
Speaker 3: whether or not MPT or tray Ford keeps playing. I
Speaker 3: do think that their crowd's gonna be a little bit
Speaker 3: more behind it. Their home crowd finally gets to see
Speaker 3: more of them. I do believe Edmonton has a chance
Speaker 3: to get in the playoffs now out. But but it's
Speaker 3: so tight down the stretch. I think if you're talking
Speaker 3: about legacy marks, you're talking about Rourke, that's BC. And
Speaker 3: then with Sasketchwan, if they don't want to lose their minds,
Speaker 3: they kind of they gotta win that game. There's a
Speaker 3: lot of I mean, I know it's all seems like
Speaker 3: they're must wins, but there really are some really critical
Speaker 3: games coming up this weekend, like absolutely critical.
Speaker 1: Well I think again, and we go back to like, Okay,
Speaker 1: Ottawa is actually a good team now, but like you know,
Speaker 1: you just got the snot kicked out of you by
Speaker 1: Ottawa last week, and I know you came back and
Speaker 1: Roork kind of got it in it today. Okay, we're
Speaker 1: kind of get everything together.
Speaker 2: But this is it.
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta go out and you got to
Speaker 1: be the really good team because we're the can I
Speaker 1: scroll down here because then you know after that you're
Speaker 1: host in Toronto, you're off, you're hosting Hamilton.
Speaker 2: That's a better one than than Calgary. The kind of
Speaker 2: I mean, you know.
Speaker 1: You just get to the point here where you just
Speaker 1: can't afford that many more losses, and so I just hope,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, they know show up and then
Speaker 1: they talk, Oh, we got the flights and we gotta
Speaker 1: go to BC. It's always trouble when they travel east.
Speaker 1: Then we gotta do the time zones and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: I mean, I believe the I is as a Mariner
Speaker 1: fan and as a cracking fan, like we can't win
Speaker 1: at home or we can't win on the road, I'm like,
Speaker 1: just please just show up and just be professional.
Speaker 3: Well here's well, here's the other thing. Read Montreal has
Speaker 3: had a bye week, so they have extra rest, They've
Speaker 3: had extra time to prepare for BC. Watch the tape
Speaker 3: on Rourke. BC's a little bit of a short week.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 3: You know, as we say, you know, flack of a
Speaker 3: better term, not up or shut up, because that's really
Speaker 3: what's coming up here.
Speaker 2: Well and yeah, and then yeah, we'll talk.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's a short week. And I mean there's
Speaker 1: something it's it's hard. I don't know, Dorothy asked me something.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, did the Mariners play to them? I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: a team that had uniforms show that. I don't know
Speaker 1: if the professional team showed up today or not.
Speaker 3: We'll see that.
Speaker 2: I Andy, did I make a mistake.
Speaker 1: We're going to Oakland tomorrow to watch the last two
Speaker 1: games of the as Mariners series at the Coliseum. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm going In a couple of months ago, I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be good for us, and now like,
Speaker 1: oh my.
Speaker 3: God, oh listen. I feel that way every time I
Speaker 3: go into a podulas seas. It looks good on paper
Speaker 3: and then you know, a month later my mind changes.
Speaker 3: But look, man, tell me how that venue is. I've
Speaker 3: never stepped foot. I've passed in front of that venue before.
Speaker 3: I've been on the part when Raiders. The Raiders used
Speaker 3: to play there, which was always just the most frightening
Speaker 3: scene in my entire life to ever cross in front of.
Speaker 3: So I'm sure it'll be, you know, not as many
Speaker 3: kookie characters there, But have fun and let me know
Speaker 3: if they chant about the.
Speaker 1: Owner, Yes, and we have and we purchase our own
Speaker 1: we have our own mirror and or sell. Sure it's
Speaker 1: now I think I wear some of those and maybe
Speaker 1: we'll have some compadres with you know, with the Oakland
Speaker 1: and they want to sell, you know, they want their
Speaker 1: ownership to sell. We want their our ship to sell.
Speaker 1: The last thing yere I like and subscribe Zach Askin.
Speaker 2: You know, when when we.
Speaker 1: Get back on the schedule, just nothing to talk about
Speaker 1: right now. So I know we kind of time tend
Speaker 1: out the top. But when things roll in and we'll
Speaker 1: get all serious about this getting towards Great Cup and
Speaker 1: everything else, there's nothing to talk about. I mean, I
Speaker 1: saw the UFL was hiring the ticket people for Saint Louis. Like,
Speaker 1: I got eight episodes of this dang podcast. Now I
Speaker 1: got to edit before I get out of town. We're
Speaker 1: going to Oakland, so we'll get back on it. But
Speaker 1: there's just you're not missing nothing right now, there's nothing
Speaker 1: to talk about. I'm trying to save my mental kind
Speaker 1: of anguish. I'm doing this. I did look back because
Speaker 1: I get my Facebook memories and like, I don't know
Speaker 1: it'd be like two years ago, like I had on
Speaker 1: like far Han and Milton Steegle.
Speaker 2: And Lily Jefferson and whoever.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, god, I used to put like just
Speaker 1: a ton of time, Like we're doing what we can.
Speaker 2: Hussy's sick today.
Speaker 1: If Andy hadn't worked out, which I appreciate him hopping on,
Speaker 1: like we just kick it to next week. It's trying
Speaker 1: to That's the best we can do right now is
Speaker 1: try to not lose our minds.
Speaker 2: On all that.
Speaker 1: I like I said, like to subscribe by Andy anything
Speaker 1: else before we get out of here.
Speaker 3: Uh hang in there, man with Botter Teams Commander Sunday.
Speaker 2: Maybe if we got the Jane Daniels.
Speaker 3: There right here. Hey, I drafted Jada Daniels in my
Speaker 3: fantasy league. I'm putting my my helps and dreams in him, man,
Speaker 3: so you'd better show off. That's all I'm gonna say.
Speaker 3: I really, I'm all in now, I'm all in on him.
Speaker 3: I am.
Speaker 1: He posted some like TikTok the other day that he
Speaker 1: was doing. I go, I like this, Okay, he's kind
Speaker 1: of cool, he's young, He's not a Carson Wentz or
Speaker 1: I mean, I love Heinekee if he's not any of
Speaker 1: that stuff. I'm speaking of me, my heine Key to
Speaker 1: the Chargers. My mom is thrilled, right, is that? Am
Speaker 1: I making that up in my head?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Swap one XFL for another guy, you know, I think.
Speaker 3: I mean, they had to make that move. Taylor Henekee
Speaker 3: getting a really grand opportunity. I mean, I hope not
Speaker 3: to see him because I don't want Herberd getting out
Speaker 3: getting injured, But considering the what they had going into camp,
Speaker 3: I think it's tremendous that they were able to trade
Speaker 3: for him, and good for him. He plays on a
Speaker 3: team that I think has a potential. I really do
Speaker 3: think they have potential to make the playoffs, so good
Speaker 3: for him, and I think it's just a good situation. Overall.
Speaker 1: Do you think it's funny how there's like Nathan Rourke
Speaker 1: was the only one they had politics against him, Like
Speaker 1: he was the only one that the NFL, the politic
Speaker 1: machine came after him. But you have the BJ and
Speaker 1: heine Key and Josh Johnson, all these other guys we
Speaker 1: track all they know. It was just it was the
Speaker 1: world was just out for Nathan, that is. And again,
Speaker 1: I like, I'm that sounds like arguing with you have
Speaker 1: a want. I'm like, I'm a Lions fan, like give
Speaker 1: you one thing. I'm like, I'm like, I'm the guy
Speaker 1: I had Nathan on back before he had the historic
Speaker 1: season because I'm like, you're the guy, so uh Andy,
Speaker 1: I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Making time.
Speaker 1: Hope Jason feels better. We'll get out of here, like
Speaker 1: I said, should be here next week. I will let
Speaker 1: you know if anything changes. Go Commanders and go charge
Speaker 1: Who are you playing this weekend?
Speaker 2: Go Chargers? You're playing the the.
Speaker 3: Raiders at home in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: So shy, But then w in the wing call him baby.
Speaker 2: That'll be good.
Speaker 3: I know better than do that. Read I've been watching
Speaker 3: the seat for too long.
Speaker 1: But well, and Todd Bowles thinks they're playing the Redskins
Speaker 1: this weekend. I'm like, Todd, what have you been He's like, oh,
Speaker 1: we were not playing Jane Daniels. I'm like, have you
Speaker 1: been been under your rock for like five years now?
Speaker 3: Like, look, man, preparing for a football game. Sorry, the
Speaker 3: last thing you need to remember is a team name.
Speaker 2: So all right, we'll see everyone next time.