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Speaker 3: always begins with Congressman Thomas Massey. Welcome back, my friend.
Speaker 3: It's a pleasure having you on my program.
Speaker 2: Wow, I feel like I've been run over by a
Speaker 2: freight train.
Speaker 1: That's good to be on.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I z Iggy Pop observed the lust
Speaker 3: for life. You know, I've had it in the year before.
Speaker 3: You've got in the year before. But have you ever
Speaker 3: got into the ear before? From Tom Donald Trump? He
Speaker 3: came out swinging the other day on social media and
Speaker 3: asking the UV primary because you set it out loud
Speaker 3: in advance of the Continued Resolution vote that you would
Speaker 3: be a no, and you delivered on your promise. It
Speaker 3: was a two seventeen to two thirteen pass with one Democrat,
Speaker 3: Jared Golden from Maine, defying his party. But you defied
Speaker 3: your party and said no. What was the premise behind
Speaker 3: your Well, first of all, if your reaction to Donald
Speaker 3: Trump actually singling you out.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, President Trump went after Canada and me yesterday,
Speaker 2: and the difference is Canada is eventually going to cave.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know you're not one to cave, standing on principle,
Speaker 3: now your principal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me give you the simplest description of what
Speaker 2: this bill does. This is a continuing resolution. It's a
Speaker 2: cut copy paste of last year's budget, which means yesterday
Speaker 2: every Republican except for me, voted to lock in Biden's
Speaker 2: agenda and the exact same spending levels on the exact
Speaker 2: same things until September thirtieth. Like they have now tied
Speaker 2: Trump's hands until September thirtieth on all the discretionary spending.
Speaker 1: It's off the table.
Speaker 2: Doach, you can't cut it, et cetera, et cetera. Now
Speaker 2: there is one chance, a last ditch chance, which is
Speaker 2: you can do recisions. You can get Bill's pass with
Speaker 2: fifty one votes in the Senate to take some of
Speaker 2: the spending out.
Speaker 1: But for now they.
Speaker 2: Have respent, refunded all of the DOGE cuts, those waste
Speaker 2: fraud abuse that we're supposed to get cut. Congress just
Speaker 2: re upped it. And Brian, I love coming on your show,
Speaker 2: because we could go back and find the history of
Speaker 2: me telling you what's going to happen, and then it happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true. Yeah.
Speaker 2: This spending bill was due on September thirtieth of last year. Okay,
Speaker 2: and instead of doing the twelve separate bills, which is
Speaker 2: what we should be doing, people are always like, well,
Speaker 2: Connor's and Massy, what would you do. I would do
Speaker 2: twelve separate bills and take the threat of a shutdown
Speaker 2: off the table. Because if you put twelve bills over
Speaker 2: in the Senate and they don't like three of them, well,
Speaker 2: there's only three things that are not funded. Nine tenths
Speaker 2: nine twelves of the government gets funded. So they didn't
Speaker 2: do twelve bills by September thirtieth, So they did a CR.
Speaker 2: They said, Okay, we don't want to before the November election.
Speaker 2: It's too important. We might lose the majority if we fight,
Speaker 2: and we might not win the White House if we fight.
Speaker 2: So let's fight after the election.
Speaker 1: So they punted it.
Speaker 2: They punted the spending bill using a CR into December
Speaker 2: of last year.
Speaker 1: Okay, Oh, guess what.
Speaker 2: We won the election, guys, we won the Senate. We
Speaker 2: kept the House and we won the White House. But
Speaker 2: you know what, it's not time to fight. We shouldn't
Speaker 2: fight yet because let's let's wait until we're in charge
Speaker 2: of the Senate, until we have the Senate majority leader,
Speaker 2: until we have a.
Speaker 1: President who can signed the bill.
Speaker 2: And instead of going to January, because January a cr
Speaker 2: from last December to this past January. Well that won't
Speaker 2: give Trump enough time to get his feet underneath of him.
Speaker 2: So let's do it until March. Okay, well, here comes,
Speaker 2: here comes March. This is this is where we are, Brian.
Speaker 2: Tomorrow the funding runs out. And what's their excuse. Now
Speaker 2: they've used two excuses. They used, oh, wait till the election.
Speaker 2: The second excuse was wait until everybody gets sworn in
Speaker 2: the new majority. And now the excuse is we don't
Speaker 2: have we need more time. We need more time. That
Speaker 2: is the worst excuse in the world. That's basically saying
Speaker 2: we've run out of excuses. Because what happens with time
Speaker 2: is the mandate that President Trump achieved in that in
Speaker 2: the victory, that overwhelmed the victory, It wears off, it
Speaker 2: doesn't last four years. In fact, when I talked to
Speaker 2: President Trump two weeks after the election last November, I said,
Speaker 2: you've got I think you got about six months to
Speaker 2: get all this done, and then they're going to try
Speaker 2: to bog us down and tie us up. And he
Speaker 2: seemed to agree with me then. But now the strategy is,
Speaker 2: let's wait nine months to fight.
Speaker 3: What is I guess by way of you know time
Speaker 3: you mentioned the twelve appropriations bills. We've talked about this
Speaker 3: so many times. Congress hasn't done their job. Now for
Speaker 3: how long with twelve individual appropriately bills as are required
Speaker 3: to do onto the terms of their job descriptions? Where
Speaker 3: were those in process before we got to the fall
Speaker 3: and the need to do a continuing resolution?
Speaker 2: Well, under Kevin McCarthy we got like six or nine
Speaker 2: of them done, depending of the twelve, depending on what
Speaker 2: you count as done, whether it's in committee or whether
Speaker 2: it's on the floor. Last year none zero, and this
Speaker 2: year I don't think they're even going to try. But
Speaker 2: here's the thing, Brian, even if you didn't go through committees,
Speaker 2: you know, even if you didn't do the regular order,
Speaker 2: the process that we're supposed to follow, we would still
Speaker 2: be better off if they went in the back room
Speaker 2: and wrote twelve separate bills instead of going in a
Speaker 2: back room and shaking hands with Hakeem Jeffries and agreeing
Speaker 2: to a fake fight and just extending Biden's spending levels
Speaker 2: into the first nine months of Trump's administration.
Speaker 1: Like this fight was so fake.
Speaker 2: Yesterday, and you know, I was taking the brunt of it.
Speaker 2: I'm good, I'm okay with that because I was calling
Speaker 2: it out as a fake fight because all but one
Speaker 2: Republican voted for this bill, and all but one Democrat
Speaker 2: voted against it. So they made it look like conservative
Speaker 2: versus liberal fight, which wouldn't this thing gets to the Senate.
Speaker 2: They need sixty votes in the Senate. I called up
Speaker 2: a certain senator over there, and I'm like, how many
Speaker 2: Democrats are going.
Speaker 1: To vote for this? And he said between ten and fifteen.
Speaker 2: They've they added some money in this thing to sweeten
Speaker 2: it up for the Democrats. They made it look like
Speaker 2: a fight in the House. And here's how sure that
Speaker 2: I am that this is a fake fight that's not
Speaker 2: even going to get fought in the Senate, even though
Speaker 2: it was the fake fight in the House. They've sent
Speaker 2: us all home, Like I'm still in DC, but they
Speaker 2: put everybody on planes last night and today and said
Speaker 2: we're done in the House. And by the way, the
Speaker 2: funding doesn't run out until Friday, so the Senate has
Speaker 2: two days to do this. They know the Senate's going
Speaker 2: to pass it if they because if they so much
Speaker 2: has changed the punctuation, they have to call everybody back
Speaker 2: from the House Representatives.
Speaker 1: And past that version.
Speaker 3: Well, as you observe, this continues the spending levels under
Speaker 3: the Biden administration. So why would the Democrats vote against it?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: I just talked to a I can't say somebody used
Speaker 2: to be in Congress, and he's like, I don't get it.
Speaker 2: Tell me what you all are doing, Tell me what
Speaker 2: you are to do it, because it looks like this
Speaker 2: is the Democrats dream. Here's something else that happened, Brian.
Speaker 2: Remember under the FRA two years ago when we raised
Speaker 2: the debt limit and I took a lot of flak
Speaker 2: for agreeing to vote for that.
Speaker 1: And the Rules Committee.
Speaker 2: The reason I voted for it, we got a deal
Speaker 2: where if they do a cr that goes past April thirtieth,
Speaker 2: everything gets cut one percent.
Speaker 1: Right, And I was taking the bet.
Speaker 2: I was making the at that these jokers up here
Speaker 2: wouldn't get the twelve separate bills done, that they wouldn't
Speaker 2: even get an omnibus done, that they would eventually just
Speaker 2: do a CR for the whole year. Well, guess what,
Speaker 2: that's just what they did. And that term it's called
Speaker 2: a sequester. It's in language, it was passed into law,
Speaker 2: and they got a bunch of legal parliamentarians up here
Speaker 2: who huddled and decided that if this r goes past April,
Speaker 2: it would be a one percent cut. But since they're
Speaker 2: going all the way to September thirtieth, not September twenty nine,
Speaker 2: Since they're going all the way to September thirtieth for
Speaker 2: the purposes of that one percent cut, it is the
Speaker 2: one percent cuts no longer valid because they're counting it
Speaker 2: as an omnibus, as a full year spending omnibus.
Speaker 1: What.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So basically they're turning off the one percent across
Speaker 2: the board cut that was agreed to and signed into
Speaker 2: law as a sequester two years ago.
Speaker 3: Well that sounds that sounds rather orwell, and that you
Speaker 3: can you can call it an obolost when it's a
Speaker 3: continued resolution.
Speaker 2: Yes, correct, they've just decided for the purposes of since
Speaker 2: it suits their purposes not to.
Speaker 1: Have the cut.
Speaker 2: It's like t ball, Bryant. All all Speaker Johnson had
Speaker 2: to do was walk up to the plate and swing
Speaker 2: the bat. The ball was already on the tee to
Speaker 2: cut things one percent. Here's the problem. The military guys were.
Speaker 2: When I say military guys, I mean military industrial complex. Yes, I.
Speaker 1: Don't mean the soldiers, right.
Speaker 2: The soldiers deserve a pay raise, they deserve the veterans
Speaker 2: deserve to be taken care.
Speaker 1: Of all that.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is the people who are here for
Speaker 2: Lockheed Martin and raze On and Boeing and GE. I
Speaker 2: know there's GE jobs in today, but all of those
Speaker 2: because they make the motors for the engines for these things.
Speaker 2: Those lobbyists and those congressmen that are most subservient to
Speaker 2: those lobbyists demanded that they're not be.
Speaker 1: A one percent cut. And I'm talking about Republicans. That's
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm struggling to find something that's FCC compliance by way
Speaker 3: of reaction in or Congressman Massey.
Speaker 2: So I'm just laying it all out there for you, Brian,
Speaker 2: and for your listeners. And I know there's a lot
Speaker 2: of crazy terms like cr onto this blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: All you got to remember is what just happened in
Speaker 2: the House yesterday, and it's going to happen in the
Speaker 2: Senate today or tomorrow. Is going to lock in the
Speaker 2: spending levels of Biden's last fifteen months his term. Those
Speaker 2: will be locked in until September thirtieth. That Trump's agenda,
Speaker 2: if he's going to do it through spending, which is
Speaker 2: basically how you do ninety percent of this, either cutting
Speaker 2: or expanding spending in different regions, he can't implement it
Speaker 2: until September thirtieth because it's already locked down. The Biden
Speaker 2: money is locked down the Democrats. It was a fake
Speaker 2: fight in the House, and you're going to find out
Speaker 2: when this thing passes the Senate that the Democrats actually.
Speaker 3: Like it well at the risk are running over. I
Speaker 3: just got to ask this, But for their part, what
Speaker 3: do the Republican side of the ledge, of the ones
Speaker 3: that you had to deal with at voter for this,
Speaker 3: how do they defend what you just pointed out? What
Speaker 3: is their motivation? This running out of time when they
Speaker 3: could have you know, done some cuts or at least
Speaker 3: not called it an omnibus and left it as a
Speaker 3: cr so we would be guaranteed the one percent cut
Speaker 3: across the board. Is it all this nefarious type of
Speaker 3: military industrial complex type Republicans?
Speaker 2: Well, that's that's part of it. But the question is
Speaker 2: how did the Freedom Caucus come along?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly, And.
Speaker 2: The answer is Trump's advisor said, you don't. We got
Speaker 2: to avoid a shutdown, and the Democrats are itching for
Speaker 2: a shutdown, but so basically, give them what they want
Speaker 2: so we don't have a shutdown, and then we'll try
Speaker 2: to take a different bite at the apple. Another bite
Speaker 2: at the apple September thirtieth. That's a false promise and
Speaker 2: a different bite of the apple with the reconciliation to
Speaker 2: early summer.
Speaker 1: But I guess ex mandatory spinning.
Speaker 3: Recognize they were at least believing in part and ignoring
Speaker 3: the military industrial complex.
Speaker 1: States.
Speaker 3: If you had cut the problem didn't lie in the House,
Speaker 3: you probably would have. Let's assume you had enough votes
Speaker 3: to vote for something that reduced the size of scope
Speaker 3: of government. But these had some cuts in it, and
Speaker 3: all the Republicans got there together and said, yeah, that's fine.
Speaker 3: The problem was that would be the Senate then, right,
Speaker 3: because they wouldn't get sixty votes in the Senate for this,
Speaker 3: they will because it extends everything. The Democrats wont because
Speaker 3: it's one of the Biden and Jenna spending levels. But
Speaker 3: they the shutdown would have come as a consequence of
Speaker 3: the vote in the Senate though, right.
Speaker 2: Well, listen, if you if if you resign yourself to
Speaker 2: that mass and that logic. By the way, that's one
Speaker 2: of ten things they pull out of the hat the
Speaker 2: reasons not to fight ever versus we don't have the
Speaker 2: Senate or we don't have.
Speaker 1: The White House.
Speaker 2: But when you get the White House, the Senate, in
Speaker 2: the House, they say, we don't have sixty.
Speaker 1: Votes in the Senate.
Speaker 2: If you, if you believe, if you truly believe that,
Speaker 2: then you absolutely know on September thirtieth of this year,
Speaker 2: we are not going to fight because there we aren't
Speaker 2: picking up eight seats in the Senate. That's right, Like
Speaker 2: there is no election between now and September thirtie. So
Speaker 2: if you believe that logic, which I don't buy, I
Speaker 2: say you put them on the spot. And by the way,
Speaker 2: crs are a crappy way to do it, like even
Speaker 2: the one percent cut CR is a crappy way to
Speaker 2: do it, and omnibus is a crappy.
Speaker 1: Way to do it.
Speaker 2: But because then you have this giant shutdown where everything
Speaker 2: shuts down if you don't if you don't get it
Speaker 2: past the Senate. That's why you should send twelve separate
Speaker 2: bills to the Senate, like the law prescribes the nineteen
Speaker 2: seventy four budget control.
Speaker 1: At amen to that.
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Speaker 3: up next, he's probably listening right now. Joe gave the
Speaker 3: heads up the Congressman Thomas Massy beyond the program, Judsephulaton
Speaker 3: a huge fan of Congressman Massy as am I let's
Speaker 3: talk talk about either end the fed or Safer Voter Act.
Speaker 3: I want to make sure we get the most important
Speaker 3: topic in your world before we go to the end
Speaker 3: of the segment.
Speaker 1: Congressman, well, yeah, easiest one to cover. I think we
Speaker 1: can do in both.
Speaker 2: Safer Voter Act stands for second amendment for every registerable voter.
Speaker 2: So what I'm doing is tying the age that you
Speaker 2: can buy a handgun to the age at which you
Speaker 2: can vote. There should be basically one age of adulthood,
Speaker 2: and I believe it's eighteen. The problem right now is
Speaker 2: you are not allowed to buy a handgun from a
Speaker 2: licensed FFL if you are eighteen, nineteen or twenty years old.
Speaker 1: Right, you have to register for the draft.
Speaker 2: You can go die for your country, but or somebody
Speaker 2: other's country.
Speaker 6: Unfortunately, same thing with alcohol or Yeah there's another one
Speaker 6: now that one's ostensibly a state issue, but they've mandated
Speaker 6: it through.
Speaker 1: A traffic total highway dollar. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the federal firearms you know, laws prevent eighteen,
Speaker 2: nineteen and twenty year olds from buying. Now, you could
Speaker 2: buy one off of a family member, you can buy
Speaker 2: one off of a friend.
Speaker 1: This is the irony. I don't think the liberals realize this.
Speaker 2: They want everybody to go through a background check, but
Speaker 2: you're not even allowed to go through that if you're eighteen,
Speaker 2: nineteen or twenty anyone who you got to find one
Speaker 2: in the back alley or get it for Christmas. So
Speaker 2: I want to change that by lowering that age to eighteen.
Speaker 2: And so that's the easy one. In the FED, this
Speaker 2: should be obvious. We should end the Federal Reserve. Somebody
Speaker 2: asked me at a speech after a speech last weekend
Speaker 2: in Kentucky, do you think Trump went into the federal Reserve?
Speaker 2: I said no, I think he wants to be the
Speaker 2: federal Reserve like he would he would like to have
Speaker 2: a knob with the interest rates, and he would like
Speaker 2: to turn the knob right. But the reality is we
Speaker 2: shouldn't be turning that knob, shouldn't be fine monetizing our debt.
Speaker 2: Yet that's what we do, and it's really Congress uses
Speaker 2: the Federal Reserve to devalue the dollar.
Speaker 1: We shouldn't be doing that.
Speaker 2: And then the Federal Reserve is supposed to be independent.
Speaker 2: They're not really. It's a revolving door between bankers, investment bankers.
Speaker 1: And the Treasury.
Speaker 2: They go to the FED and they turn knobs and
Speaker 2: then they come back and collect on whether or their
Speaker 2: friends are collecting on the benefits of the way they
Speaker 2: set the knobs there at the FED.
Speaker 1: That's why it needs to be audited. That's my other bill.
Speaker 2: Some people say, if you audit to FED find out
Speaker 2: what's really going, you'll want to end the FED.
Speaker 1: So I've introduced both bills, one to audit it and
Speaker 1: one to end it.
Speaker 3: All right, any tu reading on whether either or both
Speaker 3: will pass.
Speaker 2: I don't think we're going to get into Fed. Audit
Speaker 2: to FED. We've got that pass in the House a
Speaker 2: few times, it goes through the Oversight Committee, and it's
Speaker 2: passed the House.
Speaker 1: I think they.
Speaker 2: Should bring it up in the Senate. You've got Democrats
Speaker 2: over in the Senate. You know, you've got to get
Speaker 2: to sixty. Like Bernie Sanders, who voted for audit the
Speaker 2: FED in the House, but now that he's a Senator,
Speaker 2: maybe he doesn't want to.
Speaker 1: Audit the FED.
Speaker 3: It might be too revealing and it might cause Congress
Speaker 3: the well yeah, yeah, uh huh. Monetizing the we're going
Speaker 3: to end up the Fiat currency is just going to collapse,
Speaker 3: and the whole world's going to fall apart Congress from messy.
Speaker 2: That's when the music stops is when they stop using
Speaker 2: US as reserve currency because we basically we don't just
Speaker 2: tax our own citizens when we devalue the money through inflation,
Speaker 2: we're taxing every country that holds our dollars as we are,
Speaker 2: or holds our bonds treasuries. That's like kind of how
Speaker 2: they hold the dollars, and they're kind of getting tired
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 1: They've got less.
Speaker 2: Appetite to buy our debt. That's why interest rates.
Speaker 1: Are going up.
Speaker 2: They're not going up because the Fed wants them to
Speaker 2: go up. They really don't have complete control over interest
Speaker 2: rates anymore. It's the people who buy our debt, and eventually,
Speaker 2: with bills that like the one that passed yesterday, they
Speaker 2: are going to demand more interest. Yeah, and it's just
Speaker 2: going to start compounding.
Speaker 3: I wish we ended on a better note, Congressman Massy,
Speaker 3: but it is reality and we've got to know it
Speaker 3: and understand it to get something done going in the
Speaker 3: right direction. Congressman Thomas Massey, I understand and appreciate everything
Speaker 3: you do, and I thank you for coming on the
Speaker 3: morning show and sharing your time with my listeners and
Speaker 3: me and keep I guess I'll say, keep speaking truth
Speaker 3: to power, even though no one apparently listening to you, like.
Speaker 1: It's streaming into the void. But say hi to the
Speaker 1: judge for me. Yeah, I think you just did.
Speaker 3: I do believe he's he's streaming the audio right now,
Speaker 3: but I will make a point of doing that. Take
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