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Speaker 3: thank you for listening. We appreciate you so much. So today,
Speaker 3: ladies and gentlemen, we are going to be talking about
Speaker 3: archaic apothecary. So what does that actually mean. It refers
Speaker 3: to the old world role and practice of apothecary, which
Speaker 3: is a person who prepares compounds or dispenses medication, herbs, tinctures,
Speaker 3: chemical remedies, all of those kind of things, offering to
Speaker 3: blend together science and alchemy.
Speaker 4: And plant based healing.
Speaker 2: And so.
Speaker 3: It's going to be an interesting show. We lost Tidy
Speaker 3: for a minute, so I'm waiting for her to come back.
Speaker 3: But the healer plus pharmacist plus herbalist plus chemist is
Speaker 3: literally the apothecary role all worlled into one. Oh, I
Speaker 3: just want to know since you disappeared, I know, did
Speaker 3: Jim do that?
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just saying I've done a lot of
Speaker 2: shows in the last week, not with my friends in it,
Speaker 2: but it seems like I never have problems with anybody else. Well,
Speaker 2: certain people what are they trying Anyway, We're still going
Speaker 2: to do our show.
Speaker 5: So that's true exactly.
Speaker 3: So with the with the apothecary people, they make ungeons
Speaker 3: which are salves and ointments, things like that, elixirs with
Speaker 3: our liquid medicinal compounds, elexuaries, which I had never heard
Speaker 3: of an electuary before. Lectuary electuaries are honey based medicinal paste. Oh,
Speaker 3: I had no idea. I didn't know that was the thing.
Speaker 3: I didn't know that existed.
Speaker 2: Can you see this?
Speaker 5: Okay, yes, maam, okay, we got our alchemist here.
Speaker 3: So they also do tinctures, which are herbs that are
Speaker 3: usually steeped in alcohol. Cordals which I didn't know about
Speaker 3: a cordial either.
Speaker 4: That was new to me as well.
Speaker 3: So cordials are stimulating medicinal tonics.
Speaker 2: Yes, this little cordial.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I just have a question. Back in the day, was
Speaker 2: everybody drunk or high or like I think they were
Speaker 2: all drunk or high.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say so, especially like the deeper we get
Speaker 3: into this topic today, like and the now of people
Speaker 3: and the age of people that we're given.
Speaker 5: These given this too right that we're doing this with.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Crazy, So the last thing that they do is poultices,
Speaker 3: and those are plant packs applied to the body, and
Speaker 3: so equine medicine and stuff like that. They use a
Speaker 3: lot of things like this as far as herbal remedies
Speaker 3: and where they smash them up and basically make like
Speaker 3: a paste type thing to to apply to wounds.
Speaker 5: And these little in these little squishers.
Speaker 3: A squisher, it's a pestle, it's a and pestle.
Speaker 2: There we are.
Speaker 3: You can use mortars and pestles in your kitchen too,
Speaker 3: ladies and gentleman, especially if you're going to make things
Speaker 3: like tortillas.
Speaker 4: Just saying so.
Speaker 3: Tools of the trade. Of course, the mortar and pestle
Speaker 3: glass where like retorts and olympics, which means basically their
Speaker 3: distillation vessels like think of a distillery or a brewery
Speaker 3: or whatever, same kind of thing. Herb drawers labeled jars
Speaker 3: and vials, scales and weights and drying racks for botanical bundles.
Speaker 3: So if you ever dry your own herbs, flowers, those
Speaker 3: kind of things for medicinal purposes, I'm sure you probably
Speaker 3: have some of these things, if not all, of these
Speaker 3: things at your disposal. And now, of course they have
Speaker 3: dehydrators well, if you don't want to just hang dry
Speaker 3: your stuff. So mister Jim from the CIA, please stop
Speaker 3: booting for Heidi from the show because that is very
Speaker 3: not nice and it's going to take a very long
Speaker 3: time to complete the show if you keep kicking her out,
Speaker 3: So stop.
Speaker 4: Anyway, inside joke.
Speaker 3: So, the etymology behind the apothecary comes from the Greek apothecy,
Speaker 3: meaning storehouse, repository, or place where goods are kept, and
Speaker 3: so apothekia in Latin means a place to store wine, herbs,
Speaker 3: or valuable. So over time they shifted the meaning to
Speaker 3: this to being a person instead of a place, so
Speaker 3: it's a person who stores and prepares healing substances quote
Speaker 3: unquote or medicinal one. But that's neither here or there.
Speaker 3: So culturally wise, they were keepers of remedies at one
Speaker 3: time or another, and it was considered sacred to have
Speaker 3: the knowledge of herbal medicine and what it could do,
Speaker 3: what it could treat, what it could heal. Not mass produced,
Speaker 3: it was all handmade and personalized, so you know that
Speaker 3: that makes it a little bit more special instead of
Speaker 3: over the counter or prescription or any of that kind
Speaker 3: of stuff. And there are pharmacists who specialized just in
Speaker 3: compounding salves and ointments and things of that nature. So
Speaker 3: it kind of still exists today, only on a very
Speaker 3: different level. So trust was re relationship wise, not institutionally,
Speaker 3: which that's definitely a good thing. And the line between
Speaker 3: remedy and ritual was sometimes thin, because sometimes rituals and
Speaker 3: remedies kind of go hand in hand.
Speaker 2: Jim, you're pissing me off.
Speaker 4: I know, I said the same thing, Jim.
Speaker 2: Knock it off. It makes me nervous because we said
Speaker 2: his name. And now this is we talked for an hour.
Speaker 4: A full hour, and never had a problem.
Speaker 5: Problem y'all. So if you don't think something's happening.
Speaker 4: Yeah, hundred percent.
Speaker 2: I'm going to reshare my screen. Apparently they don't want
Speaker 2: us to talk about.
Speaker 3: This, obviously, not because this might upset someone's apple cart
Speaker 3: and muddy drawer, how about that?
Speaker 2: Oh my, this has been a little much. Can you
Speaker 2: see this little drawer. I'm not sure where you're at
Speaker 2: on that.
Speaker 4: But yes, ma'am.
Speaker 3: And this is like what we talked about before, where
Speaker 3: you have like the little little cabinet where you store
Speaker 3: your herbs and stuff like that, And personally, I guess
Speaker 3: you can consider me an apothecary of sorts because I
Speaker 3: have all kinds of dried herbs and stuff like that stored,
Speaker 3: and I have a very large storage cabinet which I
Speaker 3: keep like tots in that have all of the different
Speaker 3: flowers and all.
Speaker 4: Of that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: Oh, I love that.
Speaker 3: So with the apothecary remedy, information equaled power, and so
Speaker 3: a lot of these people, especially in Roman times or whatever,
Speaker 3: were put into very powerful, powerful positions because they had
Speaker 3: all the answers right, and they knew knew all of
Speaker 3: the treatments and all of the things. And there's the
Speaker 3: drying herbs in the bundles hanging from the ceiling. And
Speaker 3: so the only bad thing about apothecaries back in the
Speaker 3: day is patients couldn't verify the ingredients, the dose, or
Speaker 3: the effects of things. Well kind of sounds familiar with
Speaker 3: pharmachea today, right, you can't verify.
Speaker 5: I mean nowadays we don't even know where.
Speaker 3: It comes from under a person where things are sourced,
Speaker 3: and sourcing is an issue. And I know people have
Speaker 3: heard me mention this on shows before and stuff, But
Speaker 3: here's something I'm going to throw in as a little
Speaker 3: side tangent. So I make like most of my own spices,
Speaker 3: I dry stuff and whatever and crush them up and
Speaker 3: blend them and all of that kind of thing. When
Speaker 3: you buy spices from a store, a lot of times
Speaker 3: they'll contain citric acid, which is supposed to be an
Speaker 3: anti caking agent. However, back in the good old days,
Speaker 3: citric acid actually came from citrus fruit. It does not now.
Speaker 3: Citric acid comes from mold that grows at the sewage
Speaker 3: treatment plants. That is what you're getting in your spices
Speaker 3: that you buy from the grocery store, especially if it's
Speaker 3: like bulk stuff or Walmart brand or whatever. So if
Speaker 3: you're gonna buy spices mixer, you're getting something that's pure
Speaker 3: and doesn't have a lot of garbage in it. You
Speaker 3: don't need anti caking agents at all added to your spice.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: So I'm just saying, no, where things come from, it's
Speaker 3: very important. Like and so some apothecaries were healers, Uh
Speaker 3: there's became kind of dealers right and and got people
Speaker 3: into that loop of dependency. And we'll explain that as
Speaker 3: we go along, because you're gonna know about the drugging,
Speaker 3: the drug populations right, and so kind of like we
Speaker 3: talked about on the Anointed one uh session that we did,
Speaker 3: they used a lot of things like psychoactive plants and
Speaker 3: paralytic agents that's kind of scary. Hallucinogenics, poisons, sedatives and
Speaker 3: truth serums are truth distorting potions.
Speaker 2: The serum Jim, don't.
Speaker 3: You Yeah, Jim, I know, we I know you use
Speaker 3: that part of your.
Speaker 4: Job, but stops with us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So there was no ethical divide between this heals
Speaker 3: you and this alters you. It was kind of like
Speaker 3: a normalized thing and it's still to this day normalized
Speaker 3: only in the beforem of pharmacia. Yes, so poisoning as
Speaker 3: a practice, right, They use things like we talked about
Speaker 3: again on the Annoying Takement oil one, things like the
Speaker 3: night Shade family, like Belladonna.
Speaker 4: It's a sedative.
Speaker 3: It's a cosmetic dilator, so it makes your pores dilate
Speaker 3: and makes people have hallucinations, dreaming hemlock.
Speaker 5: Which have you ever given belladonna?
Speaker 2: I have not. So the only time I've ever given
Speaker 2: belladonna is they have these Belladonna suppositories for men that
Speaker 2: are going through cancer treatments. When they have these rods
Speaker 2: in the taint. They look like about twenty five. I
Speaker 2: hope they don't do this anymore. This has been years ago,
Speaker 2: twenty five injection radiation things that stay there and you
Speaker 2: have to be in the I mean, this is all
Speaker 2: at the hospital, but they have to leave them there
Speaker 2: because they have multiple treatments with them and they hook
Speaker 2: them up and whatever.
Speaker 5: But you give belladonna suppositories to.
Speaker 3: These men, Well, just gonna say for people that don't know,
Speaker 3: if you stick anything either in the rectum or in
Speaker 3: the taint area around it, it's very highly vascular, a
Speaker 3: lot of blood flow and a ton of nerve endings. Yeah,
Speaker 3: So can I understand why, especially with all those rods,
Speaker 3: that they would use belladonna? Yes, but no, I have
Speaker 3: never I have wanted, God never worked anywhere that had belladonna.
Speaker 2: So strange. Yeah, I don't know that they do it anymore.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's straight opium, though you don't.
Speaker 3: Want to that super exciting for some people, I suppose. No.
Speaker 3: They also used hemlock, which is a cause of paralysis
Speaker 3: and uh used in execution poisonings.
Speaker 5: So hmm, don't puss off the witch at your little neighborhood.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: Back in the day one and so they also used
Speaker 3: man drake and that's also part of the night shade family.
Speaker 3: It causes anesthesia, so you're numbed and whatever trans like
Speaker 3: statesm and delirium.
Speaker 2: So it is uh the people were so creative or
Speaker 2: out of it back in the day or shooting each
Speaker 2: other one of the two.
Speaker 3: That too, they had something called aconite or monshued mock shood.
Speaker 3: It's a cardiac poison, uh, and causes respiratory failure. I
Speaker 3: did not know that existed either, never ran across it.
Speaker 3: Lily Oh go figure one of the biggest drug manufacturers.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: So wolf spain, which is a neurotoxin and also used
Speaker 3: a lot in the occult And I will tell.
Speaker 4: You there are.
Speaker 2: A lot of.
Speaker 3: Supplements that you can buy online or if you do
Speaker 3: research into certain herbs and stuff that you can use
Speaker 3: for different things, wolf spain will still come up. So
Speaker 3: it is still recommend first off, if it's a neurotoxin,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but I don't want to take it. If
Speaker 3: it has neurotoxic abilities, it's a hard pass for me, you.
Speaker 5: Know, unless I'm on a ventilator. I don't think so, Yeah,
Speaker 5: not for me.
Speaker 2: I did think it was funny because they also call
Speaker 2: it monk's head, and this is the bottle that comes
Speaker 2: up so kind of made me laugh a little bit.
Speaker 3: Well, and I don't know if there's like a reason
Speaker 3: why they named it like that. For people who are
Speaker 3: not watching, there's this creepy bottle that literally looks like
Speaker 3: a friar or a monk's head totally doesce whatever, So
Speaker 3: that's very creepy. The other thing that they used a
Speaker 3: lot was mercury, which, hello, mercury slowly destroys the body.
Speaker 3: It breaks down the tissues and the body an f
Speaker 3: yi uh for people, because I've been in healthcare a
Speaker 3: really long time, mercury. Mercury used to not only be
Speaker 3: in the thermometers that you would use on patients literally
Speaker 3: all the time, but mercury was also in blood pressure cuffs,
Speaker 3: which back in the day they called big manomometers. Mercury
Speaker 3: had tinctures and mercurra chrome. When I was growing up,
Speaker 3: I'm glad you put that picture on there, because anytime
Speaker 3: you got a cut, scrape, whatever, they were literally putting
Speaker 3: mercurochrome on it.
Speaker 5: Yes, and they used it for the syphilis mm hmm.
Speaker 3: The syphilis you got you use the mercury. So, uh, mercury,
Speaker 3: ladies and gentlemen, is also in vaccinations, has been in
Speaker 3: vaccinations for a very long time. January of this year,
Speaker 3: they removed most of the vaccinations that have mercury in them. However,
Speaker 3: there are still certain vaccines that have mercury and them
Speaker 3: that are on the schedule of allowable vaccinations in the
Speaker 3: United States.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying it sounds like a bad idea.
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially when when it's chief claim to fame as
Speaker 3: it completely breaks down and destroys your body.
Speaker 2: Oh, not a good idea.
Speaker 3: Why do we have so many help problems because we
Speaker 3: grew up in an arrow where that mercury was a
Speaker 3: normal thing.
Speaker 2: And funny enough, the mercury isn't even mercury anymore. Now,
Speaker 2: it's like make mercury like I don't even know. Everything
Speaker 2: is fake, fake not g a y.
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, so Jim, don't get your panties in a twist. Yes,
Speaker 3: they also used arsenic, which is uh was aimed to
Speaker 3: revitalize people, right, but arsenic is literally a poison.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: You could die from arsenic poisoning literally, no problem, but hell, uh,
Speaker 3: let's poison people and let's see how that goes. And opium.
Speaker 3: Opium was a huge deal. Everybody was on drugs back
Speaker 3: in the day.
Speaker 5: You want, missus Winslows, Is that what you was telling me?
Speaker 3: Well, Uh, they still have cops air present stuff on
Speaker 3: the market today that have opium or other narcotics in them.
Speaker 3: So yes, yeah, let's drug or let's drug our babies
Speaker 3: because they cry.
Speaker 2: Well, we're going to get into that, and when we do.
Speaker 2: I have a funny story about my grandma.
Speaker 3: So so, uh, opium was for pain relief, uh, for dreams, uh,
Speaker 3: addiction and compliance.
Speaker 5: So hmm, how about that the opium teacher right there?
Speaker 2: You know, none of the opium is real anymore, just
Speaker 2: so you guys know, they keep all the good opium
Speaker 2: for theirselves for themselves. Even if you do need it,
Speaker 2: which there are times when people need pain control, you're
Speaker 2: not getting it. And if you do get it, it's
Speaker 2: synthetic and it's so minim minimal.
Speaker 5: Like we'll probably talk about how what they can do
Speaker 5: with generics.
Speaker 3: So right, and so was the apothecary just like a
Speaker 3: pharmacist or was he one part physician, one part toxicologist,
Speaker 3: and a part uh chemical sorcerer maybe, I mean, I
Speaker 3: think the answer is yes and tarasante. So the birth
Speaker 3: of paper consent. So in the old days, in the
Speaker 3: archaic apothecary type days, consent was verbal and relational because
Speaker 3: you were face to face with somebody and it meant something, right,
Speaker 3: it was sacred and whatever. So consent evolved into sign
Speaker 3: here to pick up your prescription, seals, contracts, medical guide approvals,
Speaker 3: and church endorsements and so is that a good thing?
Speaker 4: That all that kind of stuff?
Speaker 2: The church endorsement is really interesting and I did download
Speaker 2: a few things about the church endorsement because even here
Speaker 2: in Utah where it is strictly Marmon city us of
Speaker 2: a right, my first year was really influential right here
Speaker 2: at the Benedict's Hospital where the nuns were there, it
Speaker 2: is Saint then Saint Mark's. All of them were Saint
Speaker 2: something right here, and so that seems really strange. Or
Speaker 2: Holy Cross is another hospital.
Speaker 3: I was going to say, I was born at a
Speaker 3: hospital that was called Saint as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I ended up having a really severe burn.
Speaker 2: And apparently I think the reason why I don't want
Speaker 2: to take any life and death like where you want
Speaker 2: to simulate death is I've almost died a lot.
Speaker 5: I don't need any help there. I think I've had
Speaker 5: my future, you know.
Speaker 2: And yeah, these guys helped me when that was the
Speaker 2: case because I had an iron burn that was quite severe.
Speaker 2: So with like a.
Speaker 3: Stick graph did they give you some some good opium?
Speaker 2: You know? I would love to know.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 2: My mom said I was in a regular ICU because
Speaker 2: back then it wasn't specialized for children. And I often
Speaker 2: wonder if some of the things that I had come
Speaker 2: up over time. I mean, because I was crawling. She
Speaker 2: was like, oh, it was so funny. You would crawl
Speaker 2: on the floor.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh, in the ICU or in the
Speaker 3: hospital in general, that's disturbing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she I mean, of course you don't know
Speaker 2: what you don't know. I mean she didn't understand that fully.
Speaker 2: But there was a lot of times where it wasn't
Speaker 2: time for visiting hours and my parents would have to
Speaker 2: leave me. Though.
Speaker 5: Kind of interesting with the nuns. With the nuns in Utah.
Speaker 3: And ours was supposedly a Christian based facility or whatever,
Speaker 3: where of course there were nuns. The schools were nuns
Speaker 3: the whole nine years. I mean I grew up with
Speaker 3: actual nuns in school, like beating my knuckles with the
Speaker 3: ruler and all that.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, And it makes zero sense
Speaker 2: in Utah, where like I said, it's Mormonville, USA. Although
Speaker 2: we had a monastery, are you here? People don't know
Speaker 2: there was a whole Jesuit community out here.
Speaker 4: So and then what happened to all the Jesuit community.
Speaker 2: Oh they're still here, my gosh, still here. I'm sure
Speaker 2: of it. But they don't run that anymore. The monastery
Speaker 2: did have to close, which was really sad. I used
Speaker 2: to like to go up there. They would harvest honey.
Speaker 2: They were trappers monks. I'm going to do a show
Speaker 2: on it because it's super interesting. I used to go
Speaker 2: up there all the time and they would chant at
Speaker 2: certain times of the day. It was very cool to watch.
Speaker 2: It's not something you often get to see. And they
Speaker 2: all took a vow of silence unless they were singing
Speaker 2: or the main guy that sold the honey. So why
Speaker 2: they came to Utah, I mean, probably because they're cathart
Speaker 2: I mean, probably because of the Mormons.
Speaker 3: Maybe they were trying to spread repentance and stuff there.
Speaker 5: But who knows are collaborating with their friends one of
Speaker 5: the two.
Speaker 3: Possibly, possibly, So think of this if you're picking up
Speaker 3: a prescription at the pharmacy and they're like, you're signed
Speaker 3: here for this. Are you getting all of your questions answered?
Speaker 3: Do you know all of the side effects? Do you
Speaker 3: know what it interacts with? Do you know what questions
Speaker 3: to even ask the pharmacist. So you're consenting to something
Speaker 3: that you don't even know what you're consenting to.
Speaker 2: How many people get in the line for questions and
Speaker 2: have a full on conversation with the super busy pharmacist.
Speaker 3: I bet you nobody, and the pharmacist would blow you
Speaker 3: off or brush you off because they don't have time
Speaker 3: for that because they have all of these prescriptions that
Speaker 3: they have to either fill or verify because a pharmacy
Speaker 3: assistant filled the scripts.
Speaker 2: So yep, yep, that's how it is now.
Speaker 3: So what the apothecaries they had kind of like it
Speaker 3: was tainted by an occult reputation as well, talked about
Speaker 3: them being part of sorcery or having spirit communications, ritualized medicine,
Speaker 3: trans inductions, divination through compounds, or farbacuea which is basically
Speaker 3: drugging people through spiritual manipulation, and so.
Speaker 4: Could that be a.
Speaker 3: Possibility, absolutely, But was every apothecary that way, I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't think, because they demonized like all the naturopathic doctors,
Speaker 3: all the holistic doctors, the herbalist all that stuff in
Speaker 3: the early nineteen hundreds when the Rockefeller and Flexner report
Speaker 3: came out and all of that stuff. And so were
Speaker 3: there people that were actually doing good and not because
Speaker 3: sorcery and stuff? I would like to think so, because
Speaker 3: you know, I have hope, I choose to see the
Speaker 3: good in people even though.
Speaker 2: Something were the witches. Yeah, don't you know that the
Speaker 2: witches we were making all the this picture.
Speaker 3: That's kind of funny.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I had to.
Speaker 3: Get it with witches brew and brew beer.
Speaker 5: Yep, made me laugh.
Speaker 3: So, hey, maybe the witches did make beer. Who knows.
Speaker 4: I wasn't there, so I don't know.
Speaker 5: The ladies were better at it, right, and they got
Speaker 5: pissed or something.
Speaker 3: So they used a lot of potions that altered the mind.
Speaker 3: So it wasn't treating any illness, It was just changing
Speaker 3: people's emotional state. And so a lot of times they
Speaker 3: were very well known for sedating the sufferer, anybody that's
Speaker 3: in pain or whatever, just or crying or emotionally upset
Speaker 3: or distraught or whatever.
Speaker 5: We'll just mean they had the melancholy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, the melon. So I just put them to sleep, you.
Speaker 2: Know, late night melancholy. And now you're depressed because you're
Speaker 2: technically in withdrawal and.
Speaker 5: You you literally can't do anything about it.
Speaker 4: So true words.
Speaker 3: So a lot of these things also caused illusions and
Speaker 3: you know, spiritual and lightenment revelations kind of like damt
Speaker 3: trips and whatever they do. Well, she is.
Speaker 2: Part of the Ellucinian mysteries. She's here, but yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: She definitely looks like she's a little dugged out.
Speaker 2: She's definitely tripping.
Speaker 3: So they did these kind of things to like dull
Speaker 3: any kind of resistance, kind of like population control and
Speaker 3: quelling created compliance with people as well as dependency patterns.
Speaker 3: And so remember on the show that we talked about
Speaker 3: where if they could give you something that induces hallucinations
Speaker 3: or induces these trippy states where you think that you're
Speaker 3: hearing angelic voices and whatever, they can turn that around.
Speaker 4: To use against you and say.
Speaker 3: Oh, you're mentally unstable because that didn't happen, even though
Speaker 3: an outsider doesn't know what you experienced. But that's where
Speaker 3: that whole basis and background for menstal institutions came in,
Speaker 3: which that's where we're going to go in our next series.
Speaker 2: Yes, excited. And here's the thing, right, Like, especially for women,
Speaker 2: because if you said no, say like you didn't want
Speaker 2: to marry some guy and whatever, you were a widow
Speaker 2: and you were still mourning, then you had the melancholy
Speaker 2: and you had your menstrul time and you were a woman.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, you and your lady problems. Look, and you're
Speaker 2: a mom and you're stuck at home drugging kids. Look,
Speaker 2: I get it, it's a hard time. But this is
Speaker 2: all you know, very interesting about control.
Speaker 3: And power, right, and was this all put in place
Speaker 3: all that long time ago. It's kind of like the
Speaker 3: process to get this ball rolling and to make institutions
Speaker 3: rational and you know, make drugging people rational and mind
Speaker 3: altering people rational.
Speaker 2: Well, and then they could burn the witches because me
Speaker 2: and you would be toast because we're sassy bitches. We're
Speaker 2: not witches, but we're sassy bitches. So I'll take that snap,
Speaker 2: snap snap. We would have a pointy hat. Maybe we
Speaker 2: would be good at bring things, you know whatever.
Speaker 4: So what does this day?
Speaker 2: So it says brewers would wear the tall, pointy hats
Speaker 2: so they could be easily spotted in a crowded marketplace
Speaker 2: to transport their brew in big cauldrons. So which is brew?
Speaker 2: Which was bru? And I think that, you know, just
Speaker 2: like any time, if you outdid a man, because this
Speaker 2: was really a man's world as far as the alchemy
Speaker 2: and you know, the pharmacy and all of that for
Speaker 2: a very long time. If you've got this lay witch,
Speaker 2: you know, this lay pharmacist lady in her house and
Speaker 2: she makes something that works out of flowers, oh shit,
Speaker 2: and not to you.
Speaker 3: Are spot on about that because back in the day,
Speaker 3: like women were completely subservient to men. Women were not
Speaker 3: supposed to have knowledge or you know, power, authority anything
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 4: And so all.
Speaker 3: The early apothecaries they were men. They were all men,
Speaker 3: and if you did you were If you were a
Speaker 3: female and you did something like that, you were considered
Speaker 3: a witch.
Speaker 2: And guess what, Joseph Smith's mom was a lay midwife.
Speaker 2: And I'm just saying I think he got some real
Speaker 2: good alchemy at home. This man. She was wreaking Scottish, like,
Speaker 2: come on, let's not play Scottish. Irish family, you knew somethings.
Speaker 3: One hundred percent, and that's you know, a lot of
Speaker 3: times it was family like secrety wise and they would
Speaker 3: pass that knowledge down to their kids and whatever. And
Speaker 3: so that's like how the hierarchy of the alchemist in
Speaker 3: the early days like came to be. It was like
Speaker 3: a family passed down tradition, you know, kind of like
Speaker 3: I'm a doctor, you got to be a doctor too,
Speaker 3: but this is you know where well.
Speaker 2: And she sold cakes and beer and so I definitely
Speaker 2: think there was an absolute threat with her. She was
Speaker 2: very knowledgeable. She came from a very not farmer dumb
Speaker 2: dumb people. She came from a big family that was
Speaker 2: high up. And you know, if anybody wants to look
Speaker 2: up the Jilsum G I, L. S U, M Max,
Speaker 2: you will see that they were not what people think
Speaker 2: they were. So I do think she was a threat.
Speaker 4: I do a hundred person.
Speaker 3: And it's like most people kind of like I said before,
Speaker 3: with the age of the herbalist and the you know,
Speaker 3: naturopathics and holistic doctors and whatever, and when the Flexner
Speaker 3: report came out and the Rockefellers and the Carnegie were
Speaker 3: involved in all of that, they saw the threat of
Speaker 3: herbal medicine and that's why they had to shut it
Speaker 3: down or jail people or you know, run.
Speaker 4: Them out of town or whatever.
Speaker 3: And then of course nowadays it's like if you look
Speaker 3: something up, oh it's quackery, Oh it's an alternative medicine
Speaker 3: or whatever. But I will tell you I would never
Speaker 3: tell somebody to use something unless I used it, and
Speaker 3: I know it was.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent saying one hundred percent because it it.
Speaker 2: And I told you that right before we went live,
Speaker 2: is that I'm going to do an affiliate with somebody
Speaker 2: that I know has a product that works because I
Speaker 2: tried it and I use it, like I refuse to
Speaker 2: do like what Janet said. And you know, anytime you
Speaker 2: go against the grain like that, it makes it hard
Speaker 2: for establishment.
Speaker 3: You know, one hundred percent and take this for what
Speaker 3: it's worth. But even like you know, during the pandemic
Speaker 3: when it was like early stages and whatever, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: you know, sunlight, vitamin D like all of these things,
Speaker 3: and had my account removed because I was spewing alter views,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, uh huh, but what's on every hospital
Speaker 3: protocol list all the things that I just literally said,
Speaker 3: But you removed my account because it wasn't coming out
Speaker 3: of the mouth of a paid actor that they put
Speaker 3: out in front.
Speaker 2: A hundred person. And we absolutely know that they like
Speaker 2: to stifle things like this person.
Speaker 4: They don't want people to know, you know the truth.
Speaker 2: It's going to be weird for just a minute because
Speaker 2: I'm trying to hook back on because of course my
Speaker 2: Flexner report photo didn't download, of course, not.
Speaker 3: So while you are looking for that, that says where
Speaker 3: things happen. Not only did consent like disappear wasn't there,
Speaker 3: but this was what led to over prescribing, over diagnosing,
Speaker 3: you know, all of those kind of things. And that's
Speaker 3: where the storehouse aka the apothecary moved from an individual
Speaker 3: person to an empire. And so your storehouse or apothecary
Speaker 3: is now owned by governments or corporations. The governments also
Speaker 3: closely guard that and what can be regulated what shouldn't
Speaker 3: be there, even like they've had several bills that they've
Speaker 3: introduced to the floor for a vote where they want
Speaker 3: to control over the counter stuff.
Speaker 2: Can you see that guy? He was hard to get. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And here's the thing. It's for your safety, don't you much, right?
Speaker 3: For the good and for the good of public safety.
Speaker 3: So what does this say?
Speaker 2: So this was important. That's why I went back in
Speaker 2: and did that. It's a pain, but I will tell
Speaker 2: you you can download photos and have them disappear off
Speaker 2: your phone and off of your devices if they so
Speaker 2: liked to do that, And it happens to me a lot,
Speaker 2: So I can tell you that this particular thing, the
Speaker 2: Flexner Report, is extremely important that they do not like
Speaker 2: out there. So this just simply says the forgotten fall
Speaker 2: of homeopathy. In the late eighteen hundreds, homeopathy was thriving
Speaker 2: in the US, with over one hundred hospitals, twenty plus
Speaker 2: medical schools, and widespread patients success. But the nineteen ten
Speaker 2: Flexner Report, funded by the Carnegie and Rockefeller Foundations, redefined
Speaker 2: real medicine and labeled homeopathy just unscientific, which Rockefeller's oil
Speaker 2: empire fueling the chemical and drug industries and pharmaceudical goals.
Speaker 2: And why did they use that because it seems like
Speaker 2: a strange chemical to put into things people need to adjust.
Speaker 2: It's because they didn't know what to do with it, right,
Speaker 2: it was a higher product.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, it's it's waste, it's runoff, and
Speaker 3: so we have to hide it somewhere. So let's dump
Speaker 3: it into prescriptions and things that people will consume on
Speaker 3: a regular basis. Or if it's run off of manufacturing
Speaker 3: that's in a liquid form ak a fluoride, it goes
Speaker 3: into water yep.
Speaker 2: And so they don't waste anything, waste, not want not yep.
Speaker 3: So when the government took control of the apothecaries stuff
Speaker 3: like that which are now aka farmies, that created a
Speaker 3: whole new host of problems, right, and so was it
Speaker 3: dependence on an engineered scale? Do you think that they
Speaker 3: planned that? Of course they did, like everything else, you know.
Speaker 3: And so the cabinets of the old days, like the
Speaker 3: picture you showed before, was like the wooden cabinet with
Speaker 3: the pull out drawers and stuff like that. And so
Speaker 3: now it's no longer considered like a wooden cabinet. Now
Speaker 3: it is considered more policy protocol algorithms. Hello, AI, oh,
Speaker 3: your state's doing a doozy right now with the AI Oh,
Speaker 3: my gosh, and show me about it, band AIDS, standard
Speaker 3: of Care, best practices, guidance, blah blah blah. All of
Speaker 3: those things were built into the government taking control of
Speaker 3: the quote unquote storehouse.
Speaker 2: Yep. And do you know where your medicine comes from?
Speaker 2: Because probably coming from China or India or some other place,
Speaker 2: and the quality of it in Anybody that takes medication
Speaker 2: will know this.
Speaker 5: And I have to take medication.
Speaker 2: My prescription for tablet for asthma, which people probably put
Speaker 2: two and two together. It's not very many tablets for
Speaker 2: asthma on a daily basis starts with an S. It
Speaker 2: sounds like air. At the end, I have to go
Speaker 2: to a different pharmacy, pay four times the cost to
Speaker 2: get the one that's still a generic. It's still a generic,
Speaker 2: just to get a better generic because it wasn't working.
Speaker 2: And if you go look it up, like this particular brand,
Speaker 2: they have actual lawsuits because they had it doesn't work.
Speaker 5: They've been told like, no, this is no better than
Speaker 5: a placebo.
Speaker 3: One hundred percent. And weitouched dot that on one of
Speaker 3: the prior shows about how the United States allows such
Speaker 3: lax things when it comes to ingredients for generics. You know,
Speaker 3: and they're such a small percent. You only have to
Speaker 3: have this teeny tiny percent of the active ingredients in
Speaker 3: this and then the rest of it. We don't care
Speaker 3: what it is that doesn't provide a good standard of
Speaker 3: care like at all. Even though this is supposed to
Speaker 3: be in line with a standard of care for a patient,
Speaker 3: it is not because not all ingredients and all generics
Speaker 3: are the same.
Speaker 2: Generics can be from eighty percent to one hundred and
Speaker 2: twenty five percent. Hello, overdoses. Okay, So if you've got
Speaker 2: these pills and you have a hundred of them, let's say,
Speaker 2: and you have to take them, you know, in a
Speaker 2: month's time, and you take the first half, maybe they're
Speaker 2: the eighty percent guys, and you're used to a lower
Speaker 2: standard of medication. So when you go to take the
Speaker 2: next pills, maybe you out a hot pill and it's
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty five percent.
Speaker 5: Highly doubtful because they're stingy assholes.
Speaker 2: But you know, say you're on a pain med and
Speaker 2: you go to take that pain med because you had
Speaker 2: surgery or something, and you go to take that next
Speaker 2: one and you're you know, out of it. That's crazy.
Speaker 2: That has literally happened to me after my back surgery
Speaker 2: where I took exactly the same thing. I'm very careful,
Speaker 2: I'm diligent. I would never have an accidental anything. So
Speaker 2: just that's out there on the thing because we're being
Speaker 2: messed with today. Yeah, so I'm just saying, like, don't
Speaker 2: think for one second that they can't control that that
Speaker 2: pharmacists could come in today, because do you know they
Speaker 2: have people like substitute teachers go into these big pharmacies
Speaker 2: and substitute for a date. Those people don't know that
Speaker 2: pharmacist if they're short, that's what they do. Do you
Speaker 2: not think some of those dumb dumbs are cia right
Speaker 2: like I did, and if they slip you something you're
Speaker 2: allergic to because they know.
Speaker 3: Well, and here's a little tip for people who are
Speaker 3: not aware of this. Every medication has a little tiny
Speaker 3: number stamped into it. Pay attention to what that number is.
Speaker 3: Like if you're on prescriptions and you do mail order
Speaker 3: or pharmacy pickup or whatever, jot down the medication and
Speaker 3: what that number is, because if they substitute for another
Speaker 3: generic provider, that does not mean that that generic is
Speaker 3: going to be the same, and they will have a
Speaker 3: different number stamped into their thing.
Speaker 4: So make sure you pay attention to those kind of things.
Speaker 2: On the bottom of your bottle too, you can see
Speaker 2: the MFG. That's manufacturer. You can also look up lot numbers.
Speaker 2: That's how I found the ishoes with my medicine because
Speaker 2: I was like, this is weird. I'm having all kinds
Speaker 2: of asthma tags. My husband takes migraine medicine shots. He
Speaker 2: was having all kinds of problems. Guess what I found
Speaker 2: at the end of the day. End of the day,
Speaker 2: two different pharmacies, completely different medicines, same manufacture problem.
Speaker 3: Yep, one hundred percent, and pay attention to h if
Speaker 3: you are on any medications. On the FDA's website, you
Speaker 3: can actually look up recalls, safety recalls, things like that,
Speaker 3: and that is the only place that you will be
Speaker 3: able to find if your drug manufacturer had to pull
Speaker 3: stuff off the shelf because of contamination or toxins or
Speaker 3: metals or fungals. These coal like, yeah, one hundred number.
Speaker 2: Have you guys not seen like Okay, for example, if
Speaker 2: you look at things that are made in India, no
Speaker 2: shade on them. Look, it's a third world country. They're
Speaker 2: doing the best they can. Why are America Americans who
Speaker 2: have money right to purchase these things in bulk. Why
Speaker 2: are we getting the worst place for this? My thyroid
Speaker 2: pills cannot come from. My doctor has given up. He's like,
Speaker 2: you have to have the brand name. They're a fortune.
Speaker 2: Every time I feel it, I'm like, oh, because it's
Speaker 2: over one hundred dollars. And every time I feel it,
Speaker 2: they give me a lecture about how I could get
Speaker 2: a generic and oh, we have to order this in
Speaker 2: and they're really put out and they're sassy and crappy
Speaker 2: with me and listen, I can't help it. It says
Speaker 2: it on the stupid script. Why don't you read it?
Speaker 3: One hundred person? And they should not be questioning if
Speaker 3: the doctor signs do not substitute, that should not be
Speaker 3: a that it's constant.
Speaker 2: It's been years of this, and you know what, they
Speaker 2: treat me like a weirdo druggy over thigh y roid pills.
Speaker 2: That's crazy. That's crazy. And if you do that with
Speaker 2: pain pills, oh okay. I went through the phase where
Speaker 2: I was happened to be in the middle of all
Speaker 2: that with my back stuff, with my surgery, and there
Speaker 2: were definitely ones that work differently than others, and I
Speaker 2: finally said, no, I will not accept this brand. You
Speaker 2: do it again, put it back, and they're like, we
Speaker 2: can't put it back.
Speaker 5: I'm like, yes you can. I haven't picked it up.
Speaker 2: I looked at it. We're still here at the window.
Speaker 2: You take that bitch back and they get pissed. There's
Speaker 2: all kinds of notes on my file. I didn't care
Speaker 2: at the time. I was in desperate pain, like so
Speaker 2: it was so bad, and I knew if I did that,
Speaker 2: I was screwed because they are so like intricate about
Speaker 2: like how many you can have and right, which I understand,
Speaker 2: but like I was in a situation waiting for surgery,
Speaker 2: so like what are you going to do with me?
Speaker 2: You can't just say take two. That's not going to work.
Speaker 2: They're not going to give you that.
Speaker 3: Well, and you know, you know what's funny about the
Speaker 3: narcotic thing. Anyway, So the apothecary back in the day
Speaker 3: caused dependency problems. Our government fueled dependency problems and allowed
Speaker 3: medications to be put out on the market that literally
Speaker 3: killed their lab animals.
Speaker 2: You mean, like stuff like this, like cocaine, candy, coco
Speaker 2: cold ah, that's what.
Speaker 3: But it killed a specific drug. I'm not going to
Speaker 3: say what the name of, but go watch the the
Speaker 3: Netflix series that we had talked about before where it
Speaker 3: was actually oding lab animals and whatever. But because it's
Speaker 3: big money and big dollars, the government got the FDA
Speaker 3: to stamp it.
Speaker 4: To approve it.
Speaker 3: They had a little little suite deal with the manufacturer,
Speaker 3: which is that guy did finally get arrested. But those
Speaker 3: kind of things happen. They create this dependency issue, and
Speaker 3: then what do we do Glien Dialectically, we run in
Speaker 3: with a tracking system that each state now has access
Speaker 3: to where they can track as soon as your name
Speaker 3: pops into this system, what narcotics that you have filled at,
Speaker 3: what pharmacies, what the frequency is, whatever, And a lot
Speaker 3: of providers will run that report now before they ever write.
Speaker 2: In the er. I promise you in the er if
Speaker 2: you go to the er with a kidney stone that
Speaker 2: you cannot help, and you have been to the er,
Speaker 2: say you fell got stitches, like say you went three
Speaker 2: times in the last month because of like not your
Speaker 2: fault at all, and it's just legit stuff. You are
Speaker 2: now a shopper and it is not your fault, like
Speaker 2: and and that's what happened to me with my back
Speaker 2: because I had that infection. He wouldn't look at and
Speaker 2: I kept going in saying, like I started saying. The
Speaker 2: way I got help was I started saying, do not
Speaker 2: give me any narcotics.
Speaker 5: I'm not here for that. I need help.
Speaker 2: M That's what it took for me to be like.
Speaker 3: But that's again the problem that they created, right, and
Speaker 3: then they flag you and the system like it's your
Speaker 3: problem and I'm a crazy person, even though the government
Speaker 3: is the one that created the problem in the first place.
Speaker 2: And a doctor created it too. Yeah, he puts something
Speaker 2: I was allergic to and then wouldn't address a simple
Speaker 2: infection till it went to osteomyelitis. That's insane. He should
Speaker 2: be in jail. And I can't do anything.
Speaker 3: One hundred percent because they're protected. They got to protect
Speaker 3: each other, right, It's a good bub that you are
Speaker 3: not in it, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 2: This one made me laugh. I had to throw it
Speaker 2: in here because it was hilarious. You're talking about dependency.
Speaker 2: Being an old timey doctor would rule just drunk as hell, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you got ghosts in your blood, you should do some
Speaker 2: cocaine about.
Speaker 3: It pretty much. And hello, that's why they call doctors practitioners, right,
Speaker 3: And so they could say just that shit, crazy off
Speaker 3: the wall stuff like that, and people would eat it up.
Speaker 5: Oh, say to bleed you and give you some coke.
Speaker 3: Right, We're going to attach leeches to your body and
Speaker 3: put you on or poison because you know you suck.
Speaker 3: And so inevitably did this turn into kind of like
Speaker 3: a spell? Did it cast a spell on the public?
Speaker 3: And so now it's this is normal, this is required,
Speaker 3: this is evidence based, this is for your safety. There
Speaker 3: is no alteration. You're imagining things like that. Those things
Speaker 3: don't happen. Trust the science.
Speaker 5: You're a woman, you've got your lady business.
Speaker 2: Oh it's you don't want to know how they tried
Speaker 2: to cure women that didn't want to have sex. That's
Speaker 2: a rabbit hole. We'll probably get into that with the
Speaker 2: whole lockdown issue. But ugh, yeah, tired, drink a coca cola.
Speaker 2: It relieves exhaustion because it had a whole bunch of
Speaker 2: cocaine in it. Right, that's why your grandparents.
Speaker 3: People on a lot of cocaine.
Speaker 2: Hmmm, Well they can walk to school back.
Speaker 4: Yeah, those ways.
Speaker 3: So again, you only have to submit, right, you only
Speaker 3: have to like fall prey to the system that that's
Speaker 3: creating dependency and creating the narrative.
Speaker 2: And the.
Speaker 3: Creating the corporate ownership and the government ownership of pharmacies
Speaker 3: and apothecaries in the first place.
Speaker 4: And then it was they to regulate.
Speaker 2: Sorry, it wasn't a tiny bit with the cocaine and stuff.
Speaker 2: People like to joke and say, well, that was probably
Speaker 2: just a little bit. It was for every Coca Cola
Speaker 2: you drink. It was a line of cocaine. It was
Speaker 2: estimated nine milligrams per cocaine of cocaine per glass. So
Speaker 2: typically a line of cocaine, like it's a smaller line.
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, so.
Speaker 3: Just thinking about this about cocain in Coca cola, Coca
Speaker 3: Cola also has a lot of sugar in it. Whose
Speaker 3: brilliant brain child was that again to do this? And
Speaker 3: then kids are addicted to sugar. People are addicted to sugar,
Speaker 3: So children are drinking this too.
Speaker 2: But they already had the paragoric when they were kids,
Speaker 2: which we'll get to, so they're already We have this
Speaker 2: whole generation, I would say, the boomers and the generation
Speaker 2: right before them of addicts really hard because I remember
Speaker 2: my grandma saying, we'll just get some paragoric and I
Speaker 2: knew what it was because I was a nurse and
Speaker 2: I counted it before because we give it to like
Speaker 2: cancer patients sometimes for their stomach. And I said, uh,
Speaker 2: do you know what's in that? It's taking share of opium,
Speaker 2: Grandma like you can't and she's like, I gave that
Speaker 2: to my babies all the time. And I'm like that
Speaker 2: explains so much.
Speaker 3: Well, and thinking about like the addiction that all the
Speaker 3: generations went through, right, And then it was oh, well,
Speaker 3: you just have an addictive personality. Well, no, it's because
Speaker 3: I literally drug the shit out of me when I
Speaker 3: was a baby.
Speaker 2: You drug the baby when they're babies. Then you give
Speaker 2: them a mental like Janet said, the sugar tastes good,
Speaker 2: you have a visual. This happens all the time with
Speaker 2: people that get addicted to things that aren't like drugs. Okay,
Speaker 2: they know that, like, oh, I'm addicted to coca cola.
Speaker 5: I have to have that brand because I have mind memory.
Speaker 2: Of this situation and it gave me a release of dopamine,
Speaker 2: right yep. So then you've got that in your head.
Speaker 2: That's why people still love Coca cola even though they
Speaker 2: took the cocaine now, because it's it's a mind imprint,
Speaker 2: and so how much of that passes down in the
Speaker 2: blo We've proven that trauma does do happy things.
Speaker 3: I don't know, yep, and color association as part of
Speaker 3: that programming too, or you know, like we were trying
Speaker 3: to think of this cop syrup the other day that
Speaker 3: our parents used to give us when we were kids,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, you know, it was a brown bottle
Speaker 3: and I had this brown glass bottle and it had
Speaker 3: complate a lot it, you know, and and he's like, oh,
Speaker 3: I know exactly what that is. This is it? And
Speaker 3: that also not only lots of sugar, but that also
Speaker 3: had drugs in it and you should not.
Speaker 4: You shouldn't be doing that.
Speaker 3: But that was commonplace to drug your children when they
Speaker 3: were little.
Speaker 4: I definitely yeah.
Speaker 2: Benadryl. I'm going to tell people I work at the
Speaker 2: Psyche Hospital. The one drug we do not give anymore
Speaker 2: is benadryl. They have proven that it is extremely bad
Speaker 2: for people, and especially older people. If you're over the
Speaker 2: age of thirty that's not very old, and under the
Speaker 2: age of twelve.
Speaker 4: One hundred percent.
Speaker 3: And that's a common thing for doctors to tell people
Speaker 3: is to take benadrux.
Speaker 4: Oh you've got a rash, Oh you have hive, come
Speaker 4: it up?
Speaker 3: Whatever. Oh you got to be staying, Oh you got whatever.
Speaker 3: Bena drill, Bena drill cream. Take Bena drill cream and
Speaker 3: the pills.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're having a true anaphylactic reaction, take the benadrill.
Speaker 2: But do not give that to your babies to have
Speaker 2: them go to bed. You are creating a lifelong problem.
Speaker 4: So yep, one hundred percent.
Speaker 3: And so with all of this in place, right, we
Speaker 3: kind of created a dependency without an actual drug dealer,
Speaker 3: although the government is pretty much.
Speaker 4: The drug dealer, yes.
Speaker 3: Say pretty much own everything and they regulate all of it.
Speaker 3: And they all own stocks in all of the pharmaceutical
Speaker 3: companies because you know, can't have members of Congress that
Speaker 3: don't own stock in the stuff that they're trying to
Speaker 3: kill us with.
Speaker 2: Or members of the church.
Speaker 4: Oh that too.
Speaker 3: I have a lot of partnerships in that. And so
Speaker 3: you know, you're dependent not just on access but approval
Speaker 3: because your drug companies and your insurance companies approve what
Speaker 3: you can and can't take, and they'll tell you substitutions
Speaker 3: or alternatives or whatever. It's no longer. You can only
Speaker 3: take this because this is all I can have. Everything
Speaker 3: else makes me sick. You have to go through a
Speaker 3: whole big thing now. And of course that's by design
Speaker 3: as well, because delay and then they can make more
Speaker 3: money from it.
Speaker 2: So, and there's a difference between tolerance dependence an addiction.
Speaker 2: So there are people dependent on pain meds or whatever.
Speaker 2: They're on psychmds, asthma meds. I don't care what. There
Speaker 2: are people that need that to function and at a
Speaker 2: safe therapeutic level. That is not to be demonized. And
Speaker 2: you healthcare workers better listen up because if you broke
Speaker 2: your arm and nobody gave you a damn thing, you
Speaker 2: would not be happy. But guess what they do. They
Speaker 2: do that to people all the time. Now. If it's
Speaker 2: a severe break, yeah, I mean, if the kid's doing okay,
Speaker 2: or people are doing okay, I get it, but some
Speaker 2: people are not doing okay. We all have different pain tolerance, okay, yes,
Speaker 2: and so we need to know that we need to
Speaker 2: push for that. You know, I had a kid that
Speaker 2: broke his arm in multiple places, playing hockey, and they
Speaker 2: wanted to send him home with tylanal only, And I said,
Speaker 2: you're cracked. He is not okay now and you had
Speaker 2: to give him ivy drugs and you just want to
Speaker 2: send him home. It's going to be gone.
Speaker 4: One hundred percent.
Speaker 3: And you shouldn't be giving a child ibuprofen or large
Speaker 3: amounts of tile and al anyway.
Speaker 2: And so why not do a short term There is
Speaker 2: proof that if it's a short term narcotic, you are
Speaker 2: not making everyone an attic, Like, come on, use your mind,
Speaker 2: be the parent, keep that in your room, do not
Speaker 2: give them access. You take care of it, you monitor it.
Speaker 2: That's a pain in the ass, But if you want
Speaker 2: your kids to be safe, that's what you'll.
Speaker 3: Do one hundred percent. But a lot of parents don't
Speaker 3: do that because why, it's an inconvenience. It's too much trouble,
Speaker 3: it's too much hassle, and they're bothered, right, they don't
Speaker 3: want another thing that they have to be responsible for.
Speaker 4: Well, guess what, learn to adult.
Speaker 2: It's called the same thing with add meds. Look, if
Speaker 2: you've got a kid on these things, you need to
Speaker 2: be responsible for it. Because we're not really worried about
Speaker 2: the kids that you're worried about, Like you're going to
Speaker 2: be extra diligent if the kids eight, but if they're twelve,
Speaker 2: you're probably letting them dose themselves. Are they dosing themselves?
Speaker 2: Are they selling it at school? Do you think that
Speaker 2: doesn't happen? Check? Check it all the time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all the time. And uh, then take it, I
Speaker 4: was going to say.
Speaker 3: And also keep an eye on when the refills are due,
Speaker 3: and are they running out way before the refills that
Speaker 3: could be a problem.
Speaker 2: Are they snorting it? Are they crushing it? You need
Speaker 2: to pay attention. They are doing these things just because
Speaker 2: we all want to think our children, Oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: clutch my pearls. They would never they do too. Do
Speaker 2: you need to watch? You need to watch. You know
Speaker 2: that's on you.
Speaker 3: Kids are good at manipulation and they will push to
Speaker 3: see how far they can push because they're curious. They
Speaker 3: need organization and structure and guidance, and that is part
Speaker 3: of pushing you as a parent, is so they can
Speaker 3: figure out what the boundaries are and what the rules are.
Speaker 3: And if you set those that's your own damn fault.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. And a drill too. I
Speaker 2: don't know that I would leave. I mean, I can
Speaker 2: say this because my steps and he's open about his stuff.
Speaker 2: Benadryl was one of his drug of choices, okay, also
Speaker 2: cough syrups, also just over the counter, just regular. But
Speaker 2: they were doing things that I wouldn't have even thought of,
Speaker 2: like at.
Speaker 5: All, because.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so.
Speaker 3: Compliance on you know, with the system rebranded is care
Speaker 3: kind of like we talked about in the pharm Mackay
Speaker 3: a rebranded episode. But this is where it becomes a
Speaker 3: problem because war words that used to be meant to
Speaker 3: nurture are now used as obedience, right, and so it's
Speaker 3: now it's used as a weapon against you. And so
Speaker 3: it's refusal or questioning now becomes like we said before,
Speaker 3: noncompliance or risky behavior, lack of insight, resistance, completely denial pathology.
Speaker 3: You have a mental illness because you're questioning why you're
Speaker 3: being prescribed something or what that certain thing could do
Speaker 3: to your body. Now you are a problem, and they
Speaker 3: will diagnose you as such if they do. Shame on
Speaker 3: you for asking questions down.
Speaker 2: Compliant behavior is an actual diagnosis.
Speaker 3: Lots of them, and there are literally pages and pages
Speaker 3: of them. In the ICD ten manual, So just saying
Speaker 3: and they built this all in right, government takes control
Speaker 3: and all of that. So they control the narrative, They
Speaker 3: control the not only the compounding pharmacies or the apothecaris
Speaker 3: of the old day, but they con control all of
Speaker 3: the medical school, they control all of the drug manufacturers.
Speaker 3: They literally have their hands in every single part of
Speaker 3: the cookie jar. So it's like a giant spider web
Speaker 3: and you are a fly that is stuck in the web.
Speaker 4: So what does that see.
Speaker 2: Before medicine was institutionalized, it was relational. What we call
Speaker 2: alternative today was once primary.
Speaker 4: Care factual factual.
Speaker 3: So if they get to the point where they can
Speaker 3: frame your refusal or you're questioning as an illness, then
Speaker 3: your consent becomes irrelevant. They no longer need your consent,
Speaker 3: and then they can actually force treatments on you or
Speaker 3: institutionalize you, and you could have all kinds of fun things.
Speaker 2: Well, and look at the institutions that were back in
Speaker 2: the day, Like I'm pretty sure people just obeyed a
Speaker 2: lot of times because they saw their aunt Sally dragged
Speaker 2: off to some psych word.
Speaker 3: Right hundred percent, because they need your complicity and your
Speaker 3: compliance for their machine to work. And if you are
Speaker 3: one of those people hello again, Jim, who thinks outside
Speaker 3: the box, who isn't afraid to question or stand up
Speaker 3: or whatever, then you become a problem for them. You
Speaker 3: become a big thorn in their side because they wouldn't
Speaker 3: want you spreading the word of truth to other people.
Speaker 3: You know, they got to have all the sheep in
Speaker 3: a pen. So the agency itself didn't vanish, It just
Speaker 3: got reassigned, right, and so it was relocated from patient
Speaker 3: intuition and bodily wisdom, bodily autonomy, things like that too,
Speaker 3: institutional shift committees or algorithms like I mentioned before Heidi
Speaker 3: state as piloting an algorithm program for prescribing, diagnostic coding,
Speaker 3: all of those kind of things. So it just switched
Speaker 3: from the small relational thing into this big, giant octopus
Speaker 3: of control, and you're getting sucked up into that.
Speaker 2: Look at even the difference between the pharmacists, like nowadays
Speaker 2: you don't see the pharmacists. You get a helper. This
Speaker 2: is back in the day the pharmacists would come and
Speaker 2: talk to you. Now, I'm not saying they won't, I'm
Speaker 2: just saying, look at even the way that they station
Speaker 2: them right right, like this old fashioned pharmacy where he
Speaker 2: is literally he's right there, it's open.
Speaker 3: And I was going to say he back in the day,
Speaker 3: because this is like the error that I grew up in.
Speaker 3: For people that aren't watching, Sorry, I don't know how
Speaker 3: to tell you any other way, but back in the day,
Speaker 3: there was no pharmacy texts and all of that stuff.
Speaker 3: There was one one pharmacist and usually generally a man
Speaker 3: working at the pharmacy counting the pills out, getting the
Speaker 3: sarah about oh.
Speaker 2: Oh sorry, making the thing, uh measuring actually making things.
Speaker 3: He doesn't make anything now, right, he orders, yeah, the order.
Speaker 3: And so it's so different now because, like Heidi said,
Speaker 3: very rarely will you see the pharmacist because they have
Speaker 3: a bunch of pharmacy techs working. You don't have to
Speaker 3: have a degree to be a pharmacy tech. They hire
Speaker 3: a lot of high school students. It's and so can
Speaker 3: mistakes happen. Yes, the pharmacist is supposed to go over
Speaker 3: what medications that pharmacy tech has done, but do you
Speaker 3: think that happens with literally every single script that comes
Speaker 3: through that pharmacy.
Speaker 2: And they have machines that you push like the cooke
Speaker 2: fountain to count out the pills if they're not in
Speaker 2: a bottle already. So you know, I've been sent home
Speaker 2: with narcotics that weren't the right narcotics. I could have
Speaker 2: been a real dick and been like, I'm not giving
Speaker 2: these back, right. I knew better A and B. I
Speaker 2: knew that wasn't my prescription. I don't know whose prescription
Speaker 2: it was, but they were very vastly different medicines.
Speaker 3: What if I was allergic, like well, and I've had
Speaker 3: that issue before and I was. They tried to give
Speaker 3: me something and I was like, I'm highly allergic to
Speaker 3: that and they're like, well, no you're not, because blah
Speaker 3: blah blah, and I'm like it's literally on on my
Speaker 3: staff everywhere. Take that like at all, Like you are
Speaker 3: going to cause anaphlexus.
Speaker 4: Can't take it.
Speaker 2: Yep. If you have anaphylexis, you need to not tell
Speaker 2: them you're allergic. You need to say I have anaphylaxis
Speaker 2: because they do not listen to allergies anymore.
Speaker 5: That's how I ended up sick in the hospital forever.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I will literally die, mister says that's the problem.
Speaker 3: And so yeah, so, like I said, do you think
Speaker 3: they're literally checking every prescription. No, because they're the pharmacists.
Speaker 3: They're too busy. They don't have time, kind of like
Speaker 3: parents are too busy and they don't have time to
Speaker 3: watch over their children's medication.
Speaker 2: So I remember the day where they were like big
Speaker 2: soda bars. Do you remember this.
Speaker 3: We actually still have a place like that here in
Speaker 3: town kind of like this. Yes, it's like exactly like that,
Speaker 3: and it's it's still like the soda fountain part still exists,
Speaker 3: but of course you can't get like prescriptions and stuff
Speaker 3: like that there anymore.
Speaker 4: But yeah, that was the thing back.
Speaker 2: That's how it was with ours for a long time.
Speaker 2: It's gone now, but they kept the soda bar part
Speaker 2: and made it cute and nobody went anymore. So it
Speaker 2: got torn down.
Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent, because people like new and shiny
Speaker 3: and like old typey stuff. And so the problem with
Speaker 3: the government being in charge of all these things and
Speaker 3: you know, investigating itself when there's an issue and all
Speaker 3: of that kind of stuff, is that they really think
Speaker 3: that they're doing something moral. They think they have the
Speaker 3: upper hand and whatever they say should go and anything
Speaker 3: outside of that, like you're evil, you're causing chaos, You're
Speaker 3: an agent of destruction, like all of the things. They
Speaker 3: think that any kind of resistance or questioning is pathology.
Speaker 3: You're crazy, you're psychotic. We have to do something about you.
Speaker 3: They have read flag laws. Now they'll read flag you
Speaker 3: the whole nine yards. You're on a watch list or
Speaker 3: whatever because you're thinking outside of their little octopus box
Speaker 3: and they don't like that.
Speaker 2: Or you stood up for yourself because you're gonna die
Speaker 2: if you take something right, So ridiculous.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So here's some.
Speaker 3: Crazy ass examples of the kind of stuff that they
Speaker 3: used to do back in the archaic or old days.
Speaker 3: So aqua toofauna was a big deal. Seventeenth century Italy
Speaker 3: famous apothecary sold a poison labeled cosmetic water or perfume
Speaker 3: to wealthy women. But guess what, it was not a
Speaker 3: beauty treatment. It was actually used to murder their husbands.
Speaker 3: And so you could go and get this if you
Speaker 3: don't like your spouse, and they would even put dosing
Speaker 3: instructions in the whole nine yards, uh for you, so
Speaker 3: you knew exactly how much to kill your husband with.
Speaker 5: And this is quite the bottle. This is the aquatolf
Speaker 5: on a bottle. But look at the look at the
Speaker 5: weird label.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that babies in a bucket mm.
Speaker 2: Hm, reaching up.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's as yeah, anyway to.
Speaker 3: God that that guy looks like a Catholic priest.
Speaker 2: Uh huh yep, and then it says man as something
Speaker 2: on the top, but yeah it yeah, I'm not going
Speaker 2: to touch it, but weird. Hmmm.
Speaker 3: So how about uh the blood letting barbers and apothecaries.
Speaker 2: Get your haircute exactly?
Speaker 3: And so medieval Europe apothecaries often worked along with barber surgeons. Hmmm,
Speaker 3: I could see a problem there. Who performed medical procedures,
Speaker 3: they would prescribe or compound treatments like mercury, elixirs, arsenic tonics,
Speaker 3: opium syrups that of course slowly degrade the body over time,
Speaker 3: and the patient believed they were being healed. So you
Speaker 3: could go like, how do you say, get your hair
Speaker 3: cut and get your waien or snipped off if you want.
Speaker 2: And all the same razor blade, and we wonder why
Speaker 2: there was rampant problems.
Speaker 3: Right, kind of dirty, kind of like letting your children
Speaker 3: crawl around on the hospital floor or walk barefoot in
Speaker 3: public restroom or whatever.
Speaker 4: That's just to know that's that's chronic.
Speaker 2: Mercury can cause all these sores. That's what the student's
Speaker 2: looking at himself. He's like, what is happening?
Speaker 4: What's wrong with my face?
Speaker 3: And so mercury pills were often given to people, and
Speaker 3: Abraham Lincoln's mother was also given mercury pills. So they
Speaker 3: were prescribed as blue mass pills and they were mercury
Speaker 3: based laxatives believed to cure everything from the melancholy that
Speaker 3: means sadness, two infections. So either you're sad or depressed,
Speaker 3: but take some mercury up your butt and that will
Speaker 3: fix your problem.
Speaker 2: So sounds like a lot of quackery.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but we would be labeled quackery because we
Speaker 3: don't agree with that.
Speaker 5: He would be in the institutions, be real.
Speaker 3: So, like we talked about before, mercury is near toxic
Speaker 3: and causes personality changes. It causes depression and physical because
Speaker 3: your face fell off, Yeah, maybe pretty much.
Speaker 2: I mean everybody only lives tell their thirty something and
Speaker 2: you're grieving all the time because everyone around you is dying.
Speaker 2: And you know, I can't even imagine the cleanliness issue
Speaker 2: with lady times.
Speaker 5: And your face is falling off.
Speaker 2: I mean, so.
Speaker 3: I wonder if how long obviously for a really long time,
Speaker 3: but I wonder how long before they discovered that mercury
Speaker 3: is what was causing.
Speaker 2: Your face to fall off?
Speaker 4: Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 2: I don't even know.
Speaker 5: There's holes in people's heads over this.
Speaker 2: This is like crazy. And I mean also other things
Speaker 2: that turn your skin blue back then, like all kinds silver,
Speaker 2: Like they're doing all kinds of wild things background. But like,
Speaker 2: obviously life was hard. Everybody's either detoxing probably or drunk
Speaker 2: half the time. Like I can't even imagine. It made
Speaker 2: so much more sense when I'm like, ah, everybody's high
Speaker 2: drunk or needs to be high, you know, because they're
Speaker 2: out and they got to go get it. And then
Speaker 2: your face is falling off, I mean yeah, I just
Speaker 2: can't imagine. And their babies are dying like it's horrible.
Speaker 3: I just and probably a lot of that time had
Speaker 3: no plumbing and all the things, and so yeah, I
Speaker 3: compound all that that would be disturbing. So yeah, man
Speaker 3: Drake used as quote unquote spirit medicine.
Speaker 2: Right, this is a Man Drake one, but it's really old,
Speaker 2: but I thought it was kind of cool.
Speaker 3: So Man Drake's kind of shape like the human body,
Speaker 3: and apothecaries would tell stories to people like a screams.
Speaker 4: When you harvest.
Speaker 3: It, it opens this spiritual veil. It's able to you're
Speaker 3: able to commune with the dead. All of that kind
Speaker 3: of stuff has to be pulled from the earth using
Speaker 3: a dog so that the human harvester wouldn't die. They
Speaker 3: would tell these people that, but people would still take it.
Speaker 3: Are you flipping retarded?
Speaker 5: I mean, yes, you're taking your chances well, But.
Speaker 3: There again, you can tell people until you turn blue
Speaker 3: from lack of oxygen that something is dangerous or that
Speaker 3: you know has all these side effects or problems or whatever.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't take that because of X Y Z, and
Speaker 3: people will still damned if you do. They'll take it anyway. Yes,
Speaker 3: that's the matter with you.
Speaker 2: I guess they still want to make sure.
Speaker 3: I guess. So this was used in the Anointing Oils,
Speaker 3: so we talked about it in that episode. But Man Drake,
Speaker 3: because it's a night shade thing, it causes trances and
Speaker 3: visions and disassociation. So maybe that's good for some people,
Speaker 3: I don't know, a sense of heightened spiritual contact and
Speaker 3: temporary madness.
Speaker 5: And everybody was crazy and sad just saying.
Speaker 3: They had the melancholies.
Speaker 2: They did.
Speaker 3: So I don't know about you, but hard pass for me.
Speaker 2: On the cars. This is some anointing oil, fermenting, soaking.
Speaker 2: I don't know what, but this is yeah, yeah we
Speaker 2: did eat today.
Speaker 3: But yeah, well but he could have things in his
Speaker 3: baby oil too, who knows he did.
Speaker 2: Maybe it was annoyting oil. And that's why they were
Speaker 2: so pissed and took it all. They were like, shit,
Speaker 2: he's got the good stuff, like.
Speaker 3: Bring it exactly exactly.
Speaker 4: So one never knows.
Speaker 3: I mean, you don't know what what people are doing
Speaker 3: or whatever. You don't know where.
Speaker 2: Things access they have, right they have, that's the problem.
Speaker 3: And so the Victorian Erasode Sowed sold soothing syrups for babies,
Speaker 3: and so a lot of times it was considered or
Speaker 3: marketed under mother's helper and this was a combination or
Speaker 3: concoction of morphine, heroin, opium, and alcohol. WTF, parents, I
Speaker 3: mean sounds great, right?
Speaker 2: Is it the mother's help her for her or for them?
Speaker 2: I don't know, but yeah, ah, here's their little advertisement.
Speaker 2: I thought it was funny. So doctor Miles Nervine liquid
Speaker 2: and effer Vencent tablets.
Speaker 5: Hello, Mary, what time?
Speaker 2: Will say? What's that noise? How can you stand it? Oh?
Speaker 2: That's the children playing. Since I have been taking nervine,
Speaker 2: nothing bothers me. Ha ha, well.
Speaker 3: So h A lot of times during this era, patients
Speaker 3: would treat their children right with this concoction until they
Speaker 3: were unconscious because they didn't want to hear them cry
Speaker 3: or play. How about don't have kids?
Speaker 2: I mean, this is the thing. People can stop breathing
Speaker 2: before you make them stop doing whatever they are doing.
Speaker 2: And so that's a good thing to remember about infant desks.
Speaker 2: Back then, paragork was widely used. My grandma was not
Speaker 2: that old when she told me about this, and it
Speaker 2: was still widely available until I think after the fifties.
Speaker 4: Right, forty six percent alcohol?
Speaker 2: Right? Oh, like, let's make a whole general what is that, say, alcoholics?
Speaker 2: And then that's the let's see opium and it has
Speaker 2: a certain grain of opium to each fluid ounce. Wow,
Speaker 2: what grains are so hard to measure? Just right? I know?
Speaker 3: And forty six percent alcohol what's the opium in it?
Speaker 3: So no wonder.
Speaker 5: Whole generation of alcoholics?
Speaker 3: Yeah, not what people were so uh necked up? Necked up?
Speaker 2: Yep, yes, exactly.
Speaker 3: So this one is interesting. Doctor Monroe and the Bethleem Asylum,
Speaker 3: which that's going to be a topic on our asylum episode.
Speaker 3: But this was eighteenth century London. The Monroe family acted
Speaker 3: as institutional head physicians, apothecary and psychiatry all rolled into one,
Speaker 3: and they ran the famous Bethel Hospital, or Bedlam as
Speaker 3: it was called.
Speaker 4: Interesting choice.
Speaker 5: Here's the doc and here's the hospital.
Speaker 3: So creepy little facility, but the treatments included forced dosing, restraints,
Speaker 3: induced delirium, and medicating people who were simply inconvenient.
Speaker 2: To society, people that talked so much.
Speaker 3: Basically, yes, show, they did all kinds of interesting little
Speaker 3: concoctions and stuff that they would force upon their I
Speaker 3: can't say residents because.
Speaker 5: They would chain them to walls.
Speaker 3: Right choice, But so interesting that they were doing things
Speaker 3: like this, and that's a super interesting, uh well facility.
Speaker 2: And if you got out of her, and I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know how many people did.
Speaker 5: But here's the thing.
Speaker 2: I bet there weren't too many reoffenders, because once you've
Speaker 2: done this, probably been raped, uh you know, hurt in
Speaker 2: every way possible, chained to a wall. I bet you
Speaker 2: were pretty uh.
Speaker 4: You know, my own client. And maybe that was the
Speaker 4: think that was the.
Speaker 3: Point, right to create compliance, because then you would be
Speaker 3: a good little soldier for the system.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, or they gave you a bodymy right.
Speaker 3: And so this is kind of considered like the codex
Speaker 3: of secrecy. So a lot of times these apothecaries would
Speaker 3: create handwritten pharmacopeias, which is a listing. I'll explain that
Speaker 3: more in a minute, but it's like a drug manual.
Speaker 3: But these were often encoded or encrypted, written in symbols
Speaker 3: or different languages or shorthand or whatever. The only yeah,
Speaker 3: that's only the family bloodline would know. They like I
Speaker 3: said before, we were run by families, and so bloodlines
Speaker 3: were involved in a lot of these. Hence why it
Speaker 3: was so easy to go from private apothecaries to government
Speaker 3: owned apothecaries which later turned into pharmacies. Not surper exactly,
Speaker 3: And so it used to be shrouded, of course, and
Speaker 3: ambience and sanctuary.
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's go to the opium den.
Speaker 3: Of course, we need more opium dens and just you know,
Speaker 3: at least.
Speaker 2: They were honest. I mean, like, here's the thing. I
Speaker 2: would rather this disaster than nowadays, where they just leave
Speaker 2: these poor people and they're injecting who knows what into them. Like,
Speaker 2: at least this was honest, you know.
Speaker 3: And kind of like a place where you could go
Speaker 3: to be like monitoring.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were. They wouldn't let you die. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you wanted you to come back. Don't worry.
Speaker 3: But hey, nowadays, we'll just give you some drugs and
Speaker 3: put you on this. You can go to a facility
Speaker 3: and pick up whatever kind of drugs or crack pipe
Speaker 3: kits and whatever, and then you just go on your
Speaker 3: merry way and do what you want.
Speaker 2: These guys were in control of the opium. I thought
Speaker 2: they were sinister.
Speaker 3: Oh and look at the checkerboard floor.
Speaker 2: How about that that axe on his shoulder. I thought
Speaker 2: that was a good one. The other guy's got a cane.
Speaker 2: It's all kinds of symbolism here.
Speaker 3: We'll leave it alone, but yeah, it is definitely part
Speaker 3: of a certain society. I don't know anyway, we're just
Speaker 3: weird girls.
Speaker 5: We don't know anything.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, don't ask us.
Speaker 2: We don't know we don't read books.
Speaker 3: Uh huh, Well that's because I'm not mod enough to
Speaker 3: read a book.
Speaker 2: We don't know how to read the books. Yeah, here's
Speaker 2: the anatomy of the melancholia.
Speaker 3: Oh well, you know everybody needs to read the anatomy
Speaker 3: of the melancholia so they know the government's explanation of
Speaker 3: why you're sad.
Speaker 2: It's bad mania. Maybe you gave them drugs and now
Speaker 2: they're manic because you gave them real cocaine.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, gave them substances that altered their
Speaker 3: normal brain chemistry and normal acquiring mechanism, right, and that
Speaker 3: could be why people are so screen.
Speaker 2: Boy, oh boy, how about this one. I know you
Speaker 2: have this on your list. There's some laudanum for you.
Speaker 4: So what is what is that?
Speaker 2: I can't see the laudanum. Uh, the laudanum. This is
Speaker 2: what people used to carry around all the time. I
Speaker 2: know this was on your list, and loudinum was seriously
Speaker 2: like opium type tincture and all the all the fancier
Speaker 2: women could order this and pick it up, even in
Speaker 2: the grocery store, and they had to, you know, put
Speaker 2: a stop to that because they were all out of
Speaker 2: it all the time.
Speaker 3: So it isn't that poison.
Speaker 2: It can't be. It can be. But the laudanum was
Speaker 2: also nice for pain relief if you knew how much
Speaker 2: to take. So my guess is a lot of deaths.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, so you could have you might
Speaker 3: have some pain relief, or you might could die. So
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: You can't kill somebody before they're out of pain. I
Speaker 2: tell people that.
Speaker 3: Pick your poison.
Speaker 5: Yes, how sweet?
Speaker 3: So were the early apothecaries like behavioral chemist? I would
Speaker 3: say so because no, given the wide variety of poisons
Speaker 3: or toxins or drugs or alcohol or whatever they were
Speaker 3: given people back in the day.
Speaker 2: You know, I thought this one was a good one
Speaker 2: because including the Native American lady, I'm like, really, you
Speaker 2: people are so good, okay, whatever of what MC ellery's
Speaker 2: wine of cardwey and it's the Great woman's relief. So
Speaker 2: the Great Spirit planted, I'm assuming this might be weed.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, it's astonishing tonic for women known
Speaker 3: to medical science take and be healed. The Great Spirit planted.
Speaker 2: Just saying whatever, I'm gonna look it up while you talk.
Speaker 2: But this one did crack me up, because.
Speaker 3: It's definitely a not corn, you know, or so whatever.
Speaker 4: The harvest.
Speaker 2: So so interesting stuff there. It was definitely for the Menstrel.
Speaker 2: You know, we have to have that so.
Speaker 3: Well, the Menstrel gives people the melancholia.
Speaker 2: Bitter wine.
Speaker 5: It's bitter wine quiets you. You might need to be
Speaker 5: quieted on your period. You might say something wrong to
Speaker 5: your husband.
Speaker 2: Well, who knows.
Speaker 3: Don't play stupid games because you'll want stupid prize.
Speaker 4: Is just saying.
Speaker 2: Isn't it funny that they're like probably unsedated all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, then they're like, what the hell is going
Speaker 2: on here? Oh she's crazy now? So this one was
Speaker 2: alcohol thirty eight proof, but then it had some sugar
Speaker 2: and some lead because you always need lead.
Speaker 4: You ays need lead.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, blessed this sole black haw. I don't know
Speaker 2: what that is, tannin which you know you tan animals
Speaker 2: with that's good, and other ingredients which they didn't list,
Speaker 2: but it can be up to fifty percent alcohol in
Speaker 2: some points. And guess what else they put in this
Speaker 2: magical tonic? You're gonna love it?
Speaker 5: Oh, you know, just some potassium fifty one percent?
Speaker 2: Do you want to kill somebody.
Speaker 3: What Obviously, I wonder how many people got releaf through.
Speaker 2: Death from there. So just so people know, this is
Speaker 2: an anti spasmodic, okay, car Dewey heart this, I think
Speaker 2: this is for guys to kill our wives because you know, your.
Speaker 5: Heart needs to contract.
Speaker 2: If it doesn't and it starts to quiver because of
Speaker 2: the potassium, which is what happens, you just die.
Speaker 3: So maybe you are correct, and this is kind of
Speaker 3: like the women had the tonic to kill the husband,
Speaker 3: so maybe this is tonic to kill the women, because.
Speaker 2: I really think so. I'm just saying it just seems,
Speaker 2: you know, by the way this company became Chatham Ink
Speaker 2: that Chatham, So I mean, it's all the way bad,
Speaker 2: but pretty funny. I thought it was a little bit funny.
Speaker 2: There is some good things in it, but it doesn't
Speaker 2: outweigh the bad, which is extract of senna that's a
Speaker 2: la laxative. Just so people know, people died all the
Speaker 2: time from taking things for laxative, so and still can
Speaker 2: It's just definitely not not a.
Speaker 3: Hundred percent because uh, that creates such rapid dehydration in
Speaker 3: your body.
Speaker 2: For fifty percent potassium, I can't believe anyway.
Speaker 3: Great for great for your health, right because somebody said
Speaker 3: the doctor said, the apothecary said this was good for you. So, uh,
Speaker 3: trust the science and take it.
Speaker 2: And if not go you can go to Bedlam with
Speaker 2: these guys and write put in a street jacket forever.
Speaker 3: So does it make it clear to people why doing
Speaker 3: this series like things like this. You hear it and
Speaker 3: you're like, oh my god, that is batshit outlandish that
Speaker 3: they're doing all these things. But guess what, they're still
Speaker 3: doing it and people are still taking it.
Speaker 2: Get people making their own. Yeah, some people are getting
Speaker 2: real wild and going back to their roots and really
Speaker 2: trying to like, you do not know what you're doing
Speaker 2: unless you have got to school a long time.
Speaker 3: So I wonder if this person went to, uh.
Speaker 2: This is bedlam. This is an actual like they're bleeding
Speaker 2: her and they shaved her head, so she's apparently at
Speaker 2: Bedlam and needed to have some blood removed.
Speaker 3: I thought maybe this was the barber surgeon.
Speaker 2: She was locked up, but better than the barber when
Speaker 2: you're you know, confined and can't get away.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, go get your haircut and like I said,
Speaker 3: whack your weeney at the same time. Yeah, great idea
Speaker 3: I'm sure the medical training was on par.
Speaker 2: This is my last slide. So Janet, do you know
Speaker 2: the difference between got and a doctor. God doesn't think
Speaker 2: he's a doctor.
Speaker 3: Oh nap, But that is very true and very spot on.
Speaker 3: And I can tell you I have worked for many, many,
Speaker 3: many many and they get really pissed when you throw
Speaker 3: questions at them.
Speaker 2: Like they're five foot five and below. You are just
Speaker 2: in deep shit. And if they're a surgeon.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, run.
Speaker 3: Cardiocracy, or you could be like me and b uber
Speaker 3: sassy and yeah because it's the worst.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So that's my fun slides for today. But they
Speaker 2: were pretty fun. I thought those were they were they.
Speaker 3: Were good slides. And so with all the stuff they
Speaker 3: had customers that vanished, I just should just lost her again.
Speaker 3: So people that got committed to asylums after quote, religious
Speaker 3: visions and you know all of those kind of things,
Speaker 3: were committed for treatment and never came back out. People
Speaker 3: had mental state deterioration because of the tonics and the
Speaker 3: different apothecary things, poisons and stuff that they were taking,
Speaker 3: and so they disappeared because of that as well. And
Speaker 3: so a lot of these patients that used to be
Speaker 3: or customers.
Speaker 4: I guess you could say that used to be.
Speaker 3: Frequenting. The apothecaries disappeared out of sight. People didn't know
Speaker 3: where they went.
Speaker 2: Spiritual journey.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, with all the crap they were given people,
Speaker 3: they're probably hell a lot of dead people. I just
Speaker 3: dropped dead from what you were giving them to treat them,
Speaker 3: to make them feel wink week better.
Speaker 2: You need better. That one wasn't Jim. That one was
Speaker 2: my computer. We won't blame Jim that time.
Speaker 3: Oh well, that's good. Sorry, Jim, I said it was
Speaker 3: your fault again. So this whole thing is like a
Speaker 3: huge problem, like I said, when it shifted from personal
Speaker 3: relationship to one on one to you know, this pill
Speaker 3: will treat every person for every condition, for all the stuff,
Speaker 3: even though we're all very individual and re react very
Speaker 3: differently to stuff.
Speaker 4: So when the institution took.
Speaker 3: Over, all of that went away. They don't care about
Speaker 3: your individuality. They see you as a dollar sign, is it.
Speaker 2: They don't want you dead. They want you sick.
Speaker 4: Right so they can get you to keep coming back.
Speaker 3: And if we give you a potion with opium and
Speaker 3: it makes you sick or shuts down your organs or
Speaker 3: is toxic to you or whatever, that's okay, because we'll
Speaker 3: give you a potion with man Drake in it to
Speaker 3: make you feel all better.
Speaker 2: All better, all better. And just so people know, speaking
Speaker 2: of mercury, I have to say this one last thing.
Speaker 2: Alvin Smith, who I often speak about, was the oldest
Speaker 2: brother of Joseph Smith, and he died of mercury poisoning
Speaker 2: from calomel C A L O M E L for
Speaker 2: billius colic and constipation.
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, there in are our esteemed, industrial, industrious
Speaker 3: medical institutions were prescribing things like that that had mercury
Speaker 3: in them, giving them to people, all while saying everything
Speaker 3: is safe and effective, there's.
Speaker 4: No harm, you don't have.
Speaker 3: To worry, blah blah blah. If it was so effective,
Speaker 3: why did it disappear from doctor's offices, from the blood
Speaker 3: pressure cops? Why did it disappear in thermometers? Why all
Speaker 3: of a sudden did it disappear? There's still spraying mercury
Speaker 3: in the sky.
Speaker 2: They still use this calamel.
Speaker 5: Apparently it's very rare, but I did not know that.
Speaker 2: That's wild.
Speaker 3: And so you your baby has what'd you say, colic?
Speaker 2: Yeah? She had colic and they were doing the back
Speaker 2: then the para gork was still available, and I just
Speaker 2: started laughing because I knew I wasn't gonna get that.
Speaker 2: I'm like, how about we just try some camamel natural tablets, right,
Speaker 2: they melt in their mouth, and she'll be happier that way,
Speaker 2: and I don't think she'll be hurt like that. You know,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of really good homeopathic things that.
Speaker 6: You can get that don't check the brands right, and
Speaker 6: that don't have all the side effects and pay close attention,
Speaker 6: like Heidi said, uh, check the brands, read the labels,
Speaker 6: because you can get stuff that is supposed to be
Speaker 6: holistic or whatever.
Speaker 3: And then when you lead the read the label ingredients,
Speaker 3: there's mutual kinds of shot in there. You should not
Speaker 3: be ingesting in your body.
Speaker 2: And just saying lock up your liquor and lock up
Speaker 2: your pills.
Speaker 3: Actually your husbands, yeah.
Speaker 2: You're in Utah hyde your wives.
Speaker 3: Yes, like well yeah, and lock up your family members.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: In case there's another family member that wants to poison
Speaker 3: them through something, they are the bothegary.
Speaker 2: If they're poisoning themselves, do not be afraid. Like I
Speaker 2: know this is The one thing my mom and I
Speaker 2: talked about often.
Speaker 5: My brother was out of hand.
Speaker 2: We thought he was doing better, but there were signs, right,
Speaker 2: we all wanted to believe, but the signs right, like
Speaker 2: if we had really been not believing him totally been like, yeah,
Speaker 2: he's not not off you know anything, lock them up. Look,
Speaker 2: it is not the end of the world. If that
Speaker 2: family member hates you for three weeks to six months
Speaker 2: or three years even then too bad. Okay, they'll be.
Speaker 3: Alive, right, one hundred percent. But that's the line of
Speaker 3: dedication that people have to decide what they want. Do
Speaker 3: you want to spare your feelings or do you want
Speaker 3: to spare someone else's life?
Speaker 2: Yes, And I'm not saying Look, if it doesn't work
Speaker 2: and you did it once, I understand you don't want
Speaker 2: to get involved again again again. I mean, their average
Speaker 2: amount for people to get better is seven seven inpatient lockups.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, don't give up.
Speaker 3: But you know why is that though people have to
Speaker 3: want to get better, right, and generally speaking, the first
Speaker 3: several times that somebody goes in, there's still not at
Speaker 3: that mind frame yet where they're like, come to the
Speaker 3: real lize, let's do it. I could have died from this.
Speaker 3: Like I have to stop. I don't want this anymore.
Speaker 2: And I kind of have a different opinion on weird.
Speaker 2: This is weird, but that whole opium den thing, I
Speaker 2: just want to say this, In other countries, they have places,
Speaker 2: like Janet mentioned, like they're safer there where people can
Speaker 2: go use in a safe area and they can be monitored,
Speaker 2: have clean needles, have disposal areas, crash out for two
Speaker 2: hours or whatever. I don't like drug addiction, but it
Speaker 2: is a thing that we will deal with until all
Speaker 2: of us are off this planet. Because some people just
Speaker 2: cannot stop, okay, no matter how much you love them,
Speaker 2: no matter whatever.
Speaker 5: Like Janet said, it.
Speaker 2: Has to become their choice at some point, and some
Speaker 2: point it doesn't for some people. But I do think
Speaker 2: that that in other countries is a very useful tool.
Speaker 2: And I know that that is very controversial for people
Speaker 2: to say, Well that enables them that that now they're
Speaker 2: gonna do it, They're gonna use toys.
Speaker 3: They're going to do it regardless of what the situation is.
Speaker 3: But like I said, you know the needle exchanges, or
Speaker 3: like during the Hunter Briden laptop thing, when they were
Speaker 3: talking about you know, handed out bags that had crack
Speaker 3: pipe and basically goodies in it or whatever. Okay, Well,
Speaker 3: that that I have a problem with because you still
Speaker 3: don't have a monitoring in place for your for your people.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I mean, better safe and addicted than dead. And there's
Speaker 2: a lot of people that function in society still, Like
Speaker 2: even with the kids like I had. I had a
Speaker 2: cousin and I felt really sad for her because they
Speaker 2: took her kids away and she was crying and she
Speaker 2: said to me, I did test positive for drugs. And
Speaker 2: I know that, and I know that was wrong. But
Speaker 2: I never used around my kids. Either my husband was
Speaker 2: there or they went to my mom's or they were
Speaker 2: in a safe place.
Speaker 5: They were well taken care of, fed everything.
Speaker 2: She went to work. Like, I'm not excusing her behavior,
Speaker 2: but is that a bad mom? When she was home
Speaker 2: like ninety percent of the time, this would happen like
Speaker 2: two times a month, you know, where she would disappear
Speaker 2: for like one or two days of a weekend. I'm
Speaker 2: not saying that's great, I'm not is that truly neglectful?
Speaker 2: Is that any different than me letting my kid go
Speaker 2: spend the night with her grandma twice a month. Right,
Speaker 2: I don't know that it is because if she's functioning
Speaker 2: around the children and not doing that around the children
Speaker 2: and not bringing that home and not doing all that, well,
Speaker 2: what's the difference of that and alcoholic? Right?
Speaker 4: A hundred percent.
Speaker 2: So we're pretty demonizing for drugs, but alcohols on every corner,
Speaker 2: in every grocery store, everywhere. It is the hardest drug,
Speaker 2: YEP to detox off of. We lose more people during
Speaker 2: detox process off of alcohol than anything else.
Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely, because and it's it is a god awful
Speaker 3: experience for those people because it's very painful, it's excruciating.
Speaker 3: It causes a lot of organ issues, you know, it's
Speaker 3: it's not a walk in the park.
Speaker 4: It's not a cake walk. No, that bad thing.
Speaker 2: And it's so hard. Think of an addicted person. You're
Speaker 2: just going to go get chicken at the store, and
Speaker 2: it's like, right, it's everywhere, right, it's like the one
Speaker 2: thing you can't escape.
Speaker 3: So or it could be like ludicrous chicken and beer.
Speaker 3: So he went out for chicken and came back with
Speaker 3: beer because he went on a chicken and beer run too.
Speaker 3: There you go, so are all of these things combined,
Speaker 3: like the recipe that a lot of people never saw coming.
Speaker 4: I would so, and a lot of people still to
Speaker 4: this day.
Speaker 3: Like I said, you could put them, you know, for
Speaker 3: all the facts and things in front of them, and
Speaker 3: they're like, WTF for the old stuff, but don't want to.
Speaker 3: They have like some cognitive dissonance on on current things
Speaker 3: that are going on. Absolutely, I'm being attacked right now,
Speaker 3: kitty kitties, apologies, little sharp balls, and so patients pretty
Speaker 3: much consume like whatever is put out there, right They
Speaker 3: they consume all the effects of the drugs and stuff,
Speaker 3: but never the explanations. That's what I was trying to say.
Speaker 3: You could tell them all this stuff, but they're like, oh,
Speaker 3: it's so good, I'm still going to take it.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, and not hear anything bad
Speaker 4: about it. So is that a problem?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: But was it by design?
Speaker 2: Abs?
Speaker 3: So freakinsolutely it was. And so a lot of these
Speaker 3: things they call pharmaco mysticism, and so chemicals used to
Speaker 3: alter the brain felt like spirits, and so it was
Speaker 3: used for things like grief, female hysteria. How many how
Speaker 3: many people have heard oh it's that time of the
Speaker 3: month for you adn't it, especially if you're female. I'm
Speaker 3: sure you've heard that at least once or twice in
Speaker 3: your life. Things change because, yes, your hormones go crazy.
Speaker 3: It's not something that you have control over night terrors
Speaker 3: that happens for a lot of people.
Speaker 4: Spiritual melancholy.
Speaker 3: Of course, you're sad because you're spiritually unwell. So that's
Speaker 3: you know, vision imbalanced humors, emotional unrest, sleep disorders. So
Speaker 3: all of these things are again stuff that somebody else
Speaker 3: is going to interpret for you. If you have the
Speaker 3: female issues or whatever, you're not really failing the pain
Speaker 3: or you know, mode swings or whatever that you're feeling,
Speaker 3: it's something else, something more sinister.
Speaker 2: It can't be the fact that your husband's out running
Speaker 2: around having affairs giving you syphilis, jeez, Louise.
Speaker 3: One hundred percent. Or it could be a whole host
Speaker 3: of complications and the female system from all of the hormones,
Speaker 3: flooding and stuff like that that causes like exxs tissue
Speaker 3: everywhere and endometriosis or adhesions or whatever that can be
Speaker 3: causing that irritation during your cycle.
Speaker 4: So you know whatever I'm just saying.
Speaker 3: So poisons worthing that traveled under respectability back in the
Speaker 3: day and so arsenic of stereia. In the nineteenth century
Speaker 3: in Austria and Slovenia, reasons was widely used because guess
Speaker 3: what's supposed to improve your breathing, increase your stamina. So hello, man,
Speaker 3: you could take some poison for your libido. It's a
Speaker 3: great idea. Enhances your complexion, your skin tone, makes it
Speaker 3: great and protects you against mountain sickness. That damn mountain
Speaker 3: sickness that'll get you every time.
Speaker 2: I got the mountains sickness. It's called pollution.
Speaker 3: Now right, factual, factual, Or it could be like Rocky
Speaker 3: Mountain spotted fever because they have altered tick population with bioengineering.
Speaker 4: So anyway, just say.
Speaker 3: So you could take it for those things, but guess what,
Speaker 3: you might get a slow poison or build up a
Speaker 3: tolerance to it, and so you'd have to take more
Speaker 3: for your libido, which is just going to kill you
Speaker 3: faster eventually. Organ failure sad things, but true, and neurological problems.
Speaker 3: And so it was kind of like widely held back
Speaker 3: in that period in Austria and Slovenia, where they held
Speaker 3: poison in a high regard because they thought it increased
Speaker 3: your vitality. Don't need blue cheo anymore.
Speaker 2: Take some poison, just some poison, it's okay, and then
Speaker 2: go to the barber heat some person.
Speaker 3: They called it the arsenic eaters. I don't know about you,
Speaker 3: but I think that's hard hard pass from me. I'm kiddy, Okay,
Speaker 3: this is one. This is Kiki, and Kiki is a
Speaker 3: leg climber. She's also the leg chewer. That's why I
Speaker 3: put on my show.
Speaker 2: She's cute.
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, go play.
Speaker 4: With your kiddo. Sorry about that.
Speaker 3: She keeps climbing up my leg so awie. Yeah, if
Speaker 3: you see me grimace and pain, that is why.
Speaker 2: Oh no.
Speaker 3: So they had the Godfreeze Cordial and the seventeen hundreds
Speaker 3: to eighteen hundreds in England, and that was the one
Speaker 3: given to adults and infants for the crying problems, sleeping
Speaker 3: pain or emotional upset. It had opium, uh tree, soul
Speaker 3: syrup and spices. It led to lots of overdoses of babies,
Speaker 3: addiction from baby age on up, respiratory suppression and death.
Speaker 3: But it sounds like it's really gonna cure you, Like, well,
Speaker 3: it's gonna cure what als you or kill what els you.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's you know whatever, So hard pass again.
Speaker 3: And so these kind of things, they know work on
Speaker 3: populations and it gives them authority or many bodies out
Speaker 3: of time. So if they can get like all of
Speaker 3: these parents to sedate their kids or even murder their
Speaker 3: children or you know what, or murder themselves for that matter,
Speaker 3: or you know, increase their vitality with poison, go ahead
Speaker 3: and do it, because uh, we don't care population control.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think basically they're like, Okay, if they live,
Speaker 2: they can stay.
Speaker 3: Right, if you survive the best poisoning event, you might
Speaker 3: be in the club.
Speaker 2: So I'm still doing that.
Speaker 3: Oh, I think you might be correct on that. It's
Speaker 3: just not with Mandrake anymore, or is it. I'm not
Speaker 3: sure because and the reason why I bring that up,
Speaker 3: studies have come out and shown and proven that people
Speaker 3: who have the jibby jabber experience personality changes, anger, and
Speaker 3: all of those kind of things. So there's a shift
Speaker 3: from the normal to anger, rage, all the stuff. So
Speaker 3: what ingredient in that waxine is make people have that
Speaker 3: permanent alteration in their personality.
Speaker 2: And higher incidents of Alzheimer's. But they have the cure.
Speaker 2: Don't worry.
Speaker 3: Oh, don't worry. That's another medication, Wilson, right down the
Speaker 3: pipeline for all of you people still willing to take
Speaker 3: the ancient apothecary all better? Yeah, so, oh, loudanum, I
Speaker 3: say it now? Early eighteen hundreds in England sold everywhere, pharmacies,
Speaker 3: grocery stores, traveling apothecaries. Entire communities would take laudanum. Isn't
Speaker 3: that nice? I think will pass?
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 3: Nineteen thirties Germany public health was used to justify forced
Speaker 3: medical standardization under the banner of national well being. They
Speaker 3: still use the exact same language today, and that started
Speaker 3: in Nazi Germany. People have a problem with Nazis and
Speaker 3: language of that nature. But you're okay with forcing other
Speaker 3: people to do things against their will. That doesn't make
Speaker 3: any sense. I think somewhere along the lines, you may
Speaker 3: have a marble or too short in your in your
Speaker 3: clock tower.
Speaker 4: How about that?
Speaker 2: Yikes, I'm just saying an'time may force anything.
Speaker 5: Why is the three letters you need?
Speaker 4: And why is that all the time?
Speaker 3: Because because you need that right, because it gives people
Speaker 3: a false sense of authority, which aka means safety.
Speaker 4: For a lot of people. So that's really stupid.
Speaker 3: Early nineteen hundreds America, melancholy cures containing opiates were advertised
Speaker 3: in newspapers and all over the place, dosing entire demographics,
Speaker 3: but not diagnoses. So we're just drugging everyone. But we
Speaker 3: don't really care what's wrong with you, just as long
Speaker 3: as you take her drugs.
Speaker 2: But if you come back, that's good.
Speaker 3: So how about Victorian public health campaigns during the Victorian
Speaker 3: period declared certain treatments essential for all households, creating a
Speaker 3: sense of social medical obligation. Sound familiar, sounds kind of
Speaker 3: like coercion to.
Speaker 2: Me, be a good global citizen, Right.
Speaker 3: You have to do these things or your grandmother will die.
Speaker 3: Guess what my grandparents already did, so just saying that's
Speaker 3: not a concern here. So nineteen fifties psychiatry, sedatives became
Speaker 3: so normalized that refusing them was treated as non cooperation
Speaker 3: instead of non consent. That has only worsened. Problem solved
Speaker 3: by this system. Don't worry, though, they're here to save you.
Speaker 3: So how about this. Nineteen oh six, the Pure Food
Speaker 3: and Drug Act in the United States created regulation, but
Speaker 3: also marked the moment that medicine became a centralized commodity,
Speaker 3: not a personal craft. This is also around the time
Speaker 3: of the Fleckxner report. This is also around the time
Speaker 3: where they develop the grass loopholes, which is generally recognized
Speaker 3: as safe. That's the standard that the United States lives by,
Speaker 3: so they can literally say someone in a room doesn't
Speaker 3: have to have a degree or anything. They can go, oh, well,
Speaker 3: I think anything over twenty parts per million that's not safe,
Speaker 3: but anything under that should be okay. They don't have
Speaker 3: to test it. They can test things on animals, but
Speaker 3: never in humans and still consider it generally recognized as safe.
Speaker 3: Hence all of the poisons toxins that are in every
Speaker 3: freaking product that you can buy, whether it's laundry detergent,
Speaker 3: household cleaner's, makeup, deodorant, toothpaste, et cetera, et cetera. That's
Speaker 3: how they get away with doing that because it's cheaper
Speaker 3: to put all these extra things like heavy detergents or
Speaker 3: chemical solvents or whatever bolstered as buffers or things like that.
Speaker 3: They just rename what it's used for, even though it's
Speaker 3: still very dangerous, because would you drink a thing full
Speaker 3: of pine salt. No, but if they if they labor
Speaker 3: label it as a solvent or buffer, then you're not.
Speaker 4: Scared of it.
Speaker 2: And would you even know one hundred percent?
Speaker 3: Hello, the Internet's available. Look things up. If you're packaged reading,
Speaker 3: label reading. If you don't know what something is, look
Speaker 3: it up. Ais out there. You can use rock, you
Speaker 3: can use chat, GPT, you can use whatever if you
Speaker 3: don't want to research everything manually. So rebranding, of course,
Speaker 3: like we talked about before, super duper important for them.
Speaker 3: And that's why I said, renaming something as a buffer
Speaker 3: or a solvent or an agent or whatever. So seventeen
Speaker 3: hundreds to eighteen hundreds, soothing cordials were the things that
Speaker 3: sedated all the crying children into silence, marketed though under
Speaker 3: motherly care. So drug your baby and it makes you
Speaker 3: a good mommy.
Speaker 2: Well then they don't cry, don't you know.
Speaker 3: Well it's kind of like giving them an iPad nowadays,
Speaker 3: or your phone as a babysitter. How about parent interaction anyway.
Speaker 3: Nineteen hundreds that's when institutions realize that if treatment is
Speaker 3: labeled as care prevention or stability, resistance can be reframed
Speaker 3: as being a rational that's when they can put you
Speaker 3: in the psych word or you know, all of the things.
Speaker 3: And so institutions removing again the agency and the choice
Speaker 3: from the person to you know, the institution holds the
Speaker 3: money jar. Basically, they hold your diagnosis that they can randomly.
Speaker 4: Will and rely pull out.
Speaker 3: Go you're mentally unstable, you're incooperative, whatever. So they also
Speaker 3: hold your narrative card. You don't have agency of that
Speaker 3: anymore or control over that they do. And so all
Speaker 3: of these things, like again with the Bedlam in the
Speaker 3: eighteenth century, patients were medicated or restrained because they were
Speaker 3: deemed disruptive or troublesome, problem, socially unacceptable, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 3: So Heidi and I would be roommates at Bedlam, and
Speaker 3: we may be like the slide that you showed, being
Speaker 3: blood leaded on the floor.
Speaker 2: It would definitely be chained up and we would be
Speaker 2: separated because they wouldn't lunch in me in the same room.
Speaker 3: Probably not.
Speaker 2: We would break out.
Speaker 3: We would figure this out, yeah, one hundred percent. So
Speaker 3: ancient Greece, Egypt, and Rome medicine before mercury. So the
Speaker 3: apothecary was considered the priest slash poisoner. So not only
Speaker 3: were they priests, but magicians and balmers and executioners. So
Speaker 3: your doctor is also an embalmer and puts people to
Speaker 3: death as well as an executioner. So he's gonna mix
Speaker 3: up your whatever you need to treat you.
Speaker 2: I mean he he gets to win all the way around.
Speaker 2: If you die, he makes money. If you live, he
Speaker 2: makes money, I mean.
Speaker 3: One hundred percent. And he makes money selling you the
Speaker 3: remedy in the first place. So you know, good on you.
Speaker 3: I guess you had the whole system covered that way.
Speaker 2: And so.
Speaker 3: A lot of times mixing cures or healing recipes abortificance,
Speaker 3: so they would give you stuff to abort your babies
Speaker 3: as well. Look, probably good things. You didn't dope them
Speaker 3: up anyway after they were born.
Speaker 2: John C. Bennett was Joseph Smith's personal accused abortionist.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, Oh, isn't that nice. Everybody needs their
Speaker 3: own personal abortionist. I'm just saying, no, that was a joke. People,
Speaker 3: So don't get your don't.
Speaker 2: Get you guys know how we are. Yeah, you expected
Speaker 2: some nonsense from us.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So.
Speaker 3: The ancient Greek farbicon meant remedy, poison, scapegoat, or sacrificial substance.
Speaker 3: And so keep that in mind when you're thinking apothecary
Speaker 3: for the common day, because we are literally mirrored after
Speaker 3: Roman society. Just saying, so were the churches involved in
Speaker 3: all of this kind of apothecary and stuff?
Speaker 6: Yes?
Speaker 3: When do they get involved? Oh, I don't know, during the.
Speaker 5: Road beginning, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 3: Very big part of the church. And so as Christianity rose,
Speaker 3: apothecaries face to split either aligned with the church and
Speaker 3: the church authority or be out on their own and
Speaker 3: be branded as sorcerers. Uh so what do you think
Speaker 3: most of them decided they were going to do? And
Speaker 3: then you got the church controlling.
Speaker 2: Your medical tax will zacts become basically.
Speaker 3: So, I don't know what could possibly go wrong with
Speaker 3: the with the church involved in things as well, but
Speaker 3: you so, medieval Europe was considered the cabinet of shadows,
Speaker 3: and so apothecaries were deemed like necessary evils. So medicine
Speaker 3: was dangerous but unavoidable part of society, and so apothecaries.
Speaker 3: That's when they decided mercury was good for syphilis. Now,
Speaker 3: remember Heidi mentioned earlier that if you take a lot
Speaker 3: of mercury, you get gaping open sores and your face
Speaker 3: pretty much slides off. So if you're treating your Willie
Speaker 3: Wacker with mercury, it might look like Swiss cheese.
Speaker 2: Just saying, I had this little I had this book
Speaker 2: and I was studying it this last week, and I
Speaker 2: knew we were doing this, but it didn't. That wasn't
Speaker 2: why I was looking at. It's pictures of the old prophets,
Speaker 2: and this one prophet. I won't say his name because
Speaker 2: it's an alleged well, his first name was Wilford, I believe.
Speaker 5: Anyway, does that.
Speaker 3: Mean Wilford Brimley from Quaker Oats commercials anyway?
Speaker 2: No, but he had a big old hole in his face,
Speaker 2: and I thought he gots that syphilis face. Greats. I
Speaker 2: went back and looked it up. Allegedly, he never had it,
Speaker 2: but he had a whole bunch of problems, and they
Speaker 2: kind of said he probably did have it huge in
Speaker 2: his face.
Speaker 3: So he had a he had a sneaky snake going on,
Speaker 3: uh huh. And then and our uh mercury face.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was not pretty. It was big. It was
Speaker 2: like a the cubitous altar that wasn't packed it was.
Speaker 3: I was like, whoa, You're like, oh, you really had
Speaker 3: this syphilis.
Speaker 2: It looked small, but you could see that that crap
Speaker 2: was probably tunneled all the way underneath it was.
Speaker 3: And anybody that doesn't know what tum tunneling is, think
Speaker 3: of the mole and what they do to your yard.
Speaker 3: And they create the tunnel systems and they can dig
Speaker 3: very deep in your yard. That is what a lot
Speaker 3: of uh wounds infections will do in your body. It
Speaker 3: starts to eat through the tissue and make pathways and tunnels,
Speaker 3: and then if it fills up with pus or whatever,
Speaker 3: that's all stuck.
Speaker 2: If you don't stick something in the hole, usually gauze,
Speaker 2: just a little bit of wet sailine. You know. I've
Speaker 2: had to do this even to my husband actually, which
Speaker 2: was funny. He had a tiny sister moved on his head,
Speaker 2: but he kept saying, can you look at this? It hurts,
Speaker 2: you know, So finally I said, all right. He got
Speaker 2: a lot of hair, so I had to get the
Speaker 2: flashlight and everything. He's a little stitch spitter. He had
Speaker 2: a stitch that went bad and he didn't tell me
Speaker 2: for a month, and so when I touched it, Oh, anyway,
Speaker 2: we drained it. We'll leave it there for the people
Speaker 2: that are queasy.
Speaker 3: I love that kind of stuff. I love that it was.
Speaker 2: It was pressurized. Let me tell there was no one
Speaker 2: more surprise than me because I was wearing it and
Speaker 2: I thought, oh my gosh, like it wasn't copious, but
Speaker 2: it was pressurized, and so I had to pack his
Speaker 2: head for a week. Yep, it was bad. You guys
Speaker 2: gotta watch those things. Don't want to tell you.
Speaker 3: Those kind of things all the time because and that
Speaker 3: was like the fun part of my job when we
Speaker 3: had like doctor students that would come in with their
Speaker 3: like holier than now attitude or whatever, and I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm going to prep you for the procedure. This is
Speaker 3: what's going to happen. These are the tools that we
Speaker 3: need when the doctor goes to open it up. Do
Speaker 3: not stand directly over the wound because they're under pressure.
Speaker 3: They do explode and it's like, oh, shut up, you're
Speaker 3: a nurse. You don't know what you're talking about. Whatever.
Speaker 3: So we go into cut open the thing on somebody's
Speaker 3: back that was like the size of a golf ball
Speaker 3: and the medical students like this, leaning over, like right
Speaker 3: over the dude. I'm like, you don't want to do that.
Speaker 3: The doctor goes to make the incision, it burst went
Speaker 3: in the dude's mouth. He went right out in the
Speaker 3: hallway and threw up.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I bet he never did that again.
Speaker 4: And I was like, just FYI for you.
Speaker 3: The spilkit is in the back room and the cabinet,
Speaker 3: and you can get that and clean up your mess.
Speaker 2: Since you didn't listen, you were warned, you're nicer than me.
Speaker 2: You said why. I just always would say, don't stand
Speaker 2: there and just let let them figure it out.
Speaker 3: Well, then like after he got sick and threw up
Speaker 3: because that popped in his mouth, like he could not
Speaker 3: stand there and watch me pack the wound twist it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so bad.
Speaker 3: I love things like that though, the grosser the better.
Speaker 3: It's fascinating to me.
Speaker 2: They they look small, but they can be mighty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, very very mighty, and had contain a lot of stuff.
Speaker 3: So along with Swiss cheese dinglings the mercury for the syphilis,
Speaker 3: they would give arsenic again for vitality. So the bluetoo
Speaker 3: of the olden days opium for grief. You're sad here,
Speaker 3: some drugs, Belladonna for beauty, man Drake for anesthesia. People
Speaker 3: knew the treatments would kill them, but they flipp and
Speaker 3: did it anyway. Again, wtf is wrong with you? Hello?
Speaker 3: So the witch slash apothecary overlap. Many witches, of course,
Speaker 3: were accused of being witches because they were herbalist or midwives.
Speaker 3: Couldn't deliver babies like that because you're a woman and
Speaker 3: you're dumb. Apothecaries and women with botanical knowledge and so.
Speaker 2: Anything that they did the guy, Yeah, we need the
Speaker 2: guy with the penis to tell the girl with the
Speaker 2: vagina how to do the vagina things right.
Speaker 3: And most delivery doctors are male. They don't understand the
Speaker 3: pelvic floor muscles. They don't understand a lot of that stuff.
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, you know, quick story, it's factual.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I won't delay to often on this, but this
Speaker 2: one is important. My son, he came home. He's started
Speaker 2: as a CNA. He said, Mom, I have some questions
Speaker 2: about these older ladies. Why is everything on the out
Speaker 2: like things are not normal? And I said, oh, I
Speaker 2: can explain how old? And he said, I didn't say exact,
Speaker 2: but approximately age group we're dealing with, right, And he
Speaker 2: would tell and I said, that's because doctors are often
Speaker 2: back then in a hurry and want a woman to
Speaker 2: push before they are dilated. And even if they are
Speaker 2: not a tiny lip of dilation left, they'll say. If
Speaker 2: you ever hear doctors say you can push past that
Speaker 2: little bit of cervix, don't you dare? Yeah, because I'm
Speaker 2: telling you right now, if it's not all the way dilated,
Speaker 2: there's a reason. Usually the head's not quite right. You're
Speaker 2: gonna have all kinds of trouble, and you're gonna push
Speaker 2: and push and push and push. A hemorrhoid, a prolapse,
Speaker 2: all kinds of stuff. It's a nightmare.
Speaker 3: You're gonna push your innards and your outers and then
Speaker 3: it will just be flapping in the wind, just saying.
Speaker 5: Or it looks like a weird tree stock.
Speaker 4: And I, yes, that's not because that it does.
Speaker 3: And so because women typically don't hold and didn't hold
Speaker 3: rolls in any kind of healing or easing of pain
Speaker 3: or whatever, because you're considered less than Back in the day,
Speaker 3: those were not only witches, but aka today alternative healers
Speaker 3: or alternative therapy or whatever, so you're still less than
Speaker 3: you're just relabeled alternative. I'm just saying. So, did they
Speaker 3: burn witches at the stake? Yes, unless you listen to
Speaker 3: rebranded history and then they hung them.
Speaker 2: Right, or burned or hung or imprisoned or the list.
Speaker 3: Yeah, on and on and on. So alchemy kind of
Speaker 3: blurs the line between healing and reality and power and
Speaker 3: of course divinity because we all know that anybody in
Speaker 3: power thinks that they are all knowing, all seeing, and
Speaker 3: divine right, so they pursued universal cures, life extension measures,
Speaker 3: purification of the soul through chemistry. And like I said,
Speaker 3: these are problems because everybody's individual, so one size does
Speaker 3: not fit all. And back in the old old days
Speaker 3: before institutions took over and the government took over, they
Speaker 3: knew that and they could tailor things to people before
Speaker 3: it became a commercialized business type thing. But again, kind
Speaker 3: of like doctors. That's why they're called practitioners because they're
Speaker 3: in the practice of Medica made its book medicating right
Speaker 3: or treating somebody, and so it's all practice until they
Speaker 3: get it right.
Speaker 4: Practice makes perfect.
Speaker 3: So seventeenth to eighteenth centuries poison as a profession. The
Speaker 3: apothecaries were for hire, So you're quietly acknowledged during that
Speaker 3: time that prisoners existed, apothecaries supplied them, and political deaths
Speaker 3: were chemically assisted. Hmmm, so are they today? Right? Are
Speaker 3: just the tools.
Speaker 2: That's data for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So if you're wanting to take out a political
Speaker 3: enemy or something, our weapons are way more advanced now
Speaker 3: than giving somebody aquatafanna to dose you know, their husband
Speaker 3: or person on the side or whatever that might have
Speaker 3: syphilis girl who knows. And so this is kind of
Speaker 3: the shift of when things change, they acknowledge these things,
Speaker 3: but that's when they have to rebrand and rename and
Speaker 3: reclassify things. And so it turned into we're providing sedatives, purgatives,
Speaker 3: I don't know what a purgative is, e medics. That's
Speaker 3: things to make you throw up, paralytics and delirium inducing compounds,
Speaker 3: but sold under the guise of again, this is for
Speaker 3: quieting you understanding is controlling care is management, And so
Speaker 3: changing all of these things, rebranding, renaming, that's what they do,
Speaker 3: that's what they're famous for. And so I just want
Speaker 3: to say today's depositary. They don't mix herbs, they don't
Speaker 3: meet their patients. They don't know your name, they don't
Speaker 3: know your needs. See, they don't know your uniqueness uniqueness,
Speaker 3: they don't ask you the right questions. It's basically predicated
Speaker 3: on mandates and algorithms, especially with all the AI age
Speaker 3: now compliance metrics, because they can flag at the pharmacy
Speaker 3: just like they can at the doctor's office. And it's
Speaker 3: institutional inevitability, which means things are going to continue to evolve,
Speaker 3: change and rebrand themselves in the future to come. So
Speaker 3: when medicine stops asking and starts assuming, it becomes dangerous,
Speaker 3: even when it believes that it's doing it for the.
Speaker 4: Good of the people.
Speaker 3: So, I don't know, you're ready to run out and
Speaker 3: find some mercury or Bella donner.
Speaker 2: I mean I think I'm okay.
Speaker 5: I think I'll stick with the oil of ola.
Speaker 3: Yeah, me too. Well, I'm not going to stick I'm
Speaker 3: just going to stick with the stuff that I do myself.
Speaker 2: Yes, I just use cheap stuff. But I'll tell you
Speaker 2: all of this stuff over the years. I am surprised
Speaker 2: of one thing that we have people that actually survived.
Speaker 3: Oh one hundred percent and and uh, it's honestly kind
Speaker 3: of like a big medical experiment. Oh my gosh, we
Speaker 3: dosed them with.
Speaker 2: All of them.
Speaker 3: We need to study them and see why. Hence the
Speaker 3: whats what DNA collection that they have been doing to
Speaker 3: build their human genome project, because some people are uber
Speaker 3: resistant two any kind of uh side effects or issues
Speaker 3: or genetic anomalies and things like that, and other people
Speaker 3: are highly susceptible.
Speaker 2: So yes, yeah, well, and look, I'm not saying I
Speaker 2: never use medicine. I always say that Janet is very
Speaker 2: more like against that and different.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Janet, it's very much a nod.
Speaker 2: Yes, Janet doesn't do that, but I definitely do. And
Speaker 2: but you have to be responsible, Like I think more
Speaker 2: people are worried about what's in their like tiny little
Speaker 2: things than they are about their drugs or their food
Speaker 2: or their hair care stuff or any of that. You
Speaker 2: need to know some things, like let's be wise, you know,
Speaker 2: let's not just let people lead you by the nose.
Speaker 2: Because that's why that piercings so popular right now.
Speaker 3: It's the bull rings, so I can grab you by
Speaker 3: the nostrils and just pull you along. Yeah, So kind
Speaker 3: of like what we've talked about on the the issue
Speaker 3: or the episode with about the Crisper technology and changing
Speaker 3: you know, yeah sorry cats, you know, altering like the
Speaker 3: drugs and all of that stuff. So people are are
Speaker 3: home my word, ye the other one that's playing in
Speaker 3: the trash can anyway. But people are so worried about
Speaker 3: like what's in Yeah, I'm.
Speaker 4: Going to get you some Belladonna.
Speaker 3: People are so worried about like what's in the jebber jabber,
Speaker 3: But they're not worried about what's in the medically or
Speaker 3: chemically bio engineered.
Speaker 2: Fun time stuff, fun time any drugs. Look, people are
Speaker 2: still buying mini fins at the like the gas station,
Speaker 2: not groceries, your energy drinks.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, I shout out to our friend Trebles.
Speaker 3: But things like the the Kretom juices that are uh
Speaker 3: literally like monster or whatever, but has kreatum in it.
Speaker 3: Read you're flipping ingredients and what else is in that?
Speaker 3: And I was going to say kreatim itself could cause
Speaker 3: a whole host of problems for people. Let alone that
Speaker 3: combined with X, Y and Z. There's so much stuff
Speaker 3: in that.
Speaker 2: It's not controlled. No, you don't know where it came
Speaker 2: from probably someone's ashtray. I'm not saying that herbal things
Speaker 2: aren't good for you. I'm just saying, are you weighing it?
Speaker 2: Are you making capsules? Are you looking where it came from?
Speaker 2: Is it from some weird place in Timbuctoo, Like, let's
Speaker 2: let's be real.
Speaker 3: Here, it's important.
Speaker 2: Yeah, vape anything has me concerned because first of all,
Speaker 2: it's oil based and that is not healthy for your lungs. Right,
Speaker 2: they're going to come up later. Yeah, they're going to
Speaker 2: find out some stuff later and you're gonna be sorry.
Speaker 2: But also, you know, my husband, he's told me, even
Speaker 2: just with the regular vape juice, not even create we're
Speaker 2: not even talking about that. He said, I smoked for
Speaker 2: twenty years and it was easier to quit cigarettes than vaping.
Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred percent. Yeah I don't know that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: People will pick and choose what to get morally outraged
Speaker 3: about as far as ingredients and and things like that.
Speaker 3: But they cherry pick because if you were that concerned,
Speaker 3: you would literally check every product that you consume.
Speaker 2: Yep. If you're still eating M and ms, but you're
Speaker 2: you're bitching about everything, I mean, come on, they got
Speaker 2: red dye all the things in blue and purple. Like,
Speaker 2: I'm not saying don't do it, but we do have
Speaker 2: a couple of people in our family that are like,
Speaker 2: I don't eat anything but brown eggs and perfect this
Speaker 2: and perfect that, but they drink a ton of soda
Speaker 2: a day, and I'm like.
Speaker 4: One hundred percent.
Speaker 3: And that's why, you know, the selective outrage and the
Speaker 3: cherry picking of stuff. Great, and these eks take time.
Speaker 3: If you're going to change over your diet or whatever,
Speaker 3: great that you're doing that, but you literally have to
Speaker 3: be concerned about everything that you do.
Speaker 2: Exactly.
Speaker 3: If you only eliminate like pop, but you don't eliminate
Speaker 3: fast food or processed food or whatever, are you really
Speaker 3: making yourself healthier? So now, anyway, the lovely, beautiful, talented
Speaker 3: mes Heidie, where can ladies and gentlemen find you? Act?
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