Speaker 1: The Team House with your hosts, Jack Murphy and David Park. Hey, everyone,
Speaker 1: welcome to episode one and fifty one of the Team House.
Speaker 1: I'm Jack Murphy here with David Park d over in
Speaker 1: that direction producing. We're very excited here to be with
Speaker 1: our guest, Dale Comstock. Dale is somebody who has done
Speaker 1: a little bit of everything, kind of done at all
Speaker 1: in life. Dale has served in the eighty second Airborne
Speaker 1: in Special Forces, served as a delta operator. I believe Dale,
Speaker 1: you were the youngest operator in the unit at the
Speaker 1: time when you graduated selection. This guy participated in Operation
Speaker 1: Acid Gambit, the Kurt Muse hostage rescue mission in Panama.
Speaker 1: That was the first successful military hostage rescue operation historically
Speaker 1: that our country's ever done. Dale served in the Wolf War,
Speaker 1: served as a team sergeant, and then he retired and
Speaker 1: went on to become a paramilitary contractor. Had further adventures
Speaker 1: over in Afghanistan, which we're going to talk about a
Speaker 1: little bit in a moment. And then, you know, Dale,
Speaker 1: he wrote a memoir called American Badass. He thought this
Speaker 1: was kind of his sunset book. He was going to
Speaker 1: fade away into the into the ether. After he finished
Speaker 1: this book, but instead, crazy things keep kept happening to
Speaker 1: him in places like Yemen, Hong Kong, Singapore, and even
Speaker 1: in Hollywood. So we're going to talk a lot about
Speaker 1: Dale's sort of post service military career.
Speaker 2: There's there's a lot more to Dale.
Speaker 1: I think you should go read American Badass if you
Speaker 1: want to hear more about his military career. We're going
Speaker 1: to kind of talk about his post service post military
Speaker 1: career and get into some of the things that he's
Speaker 1: doing today and some of the books he's working on.
Speaker 1: So Dale, thank you so much for joining us from
Speaker 1: from Bali tonight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, thanks for having me pleasure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, man.
Speaker 1: So, sticking with that theme that that would have uh
Speaker 1: intro that I went off on, I was wonder if
Speaker 1: you could start off telling us some stories about Barja
Speaker 1: Mattal in Afghanistan. I believe you were part of a
Speaker 1: very small group of people that got sent up into
Speaker 1: I mean that was really bad guy country and the
Speaker 1: terrain just vicious up in that part of Afghanistan.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So there were actually three fobs up there, and
Speaker 3: each fob I believe had a roughly about a platoon
Speaker 3: platoon plus element occupying this fop earlier, a couple months earlier,
Speaker 3: one of the fobs had been overrun and when the
Speaker 3: encampments had been overrun, and I think there was a
Speaker 3: total of nine casualties. Nine Americans were killed, a lot
Speaker 3: about Afghanis, of course Taliban, And so the decision was
Speaker 3: made to pull out the other outposts, the other two
Speaker 3: outposts that rut and one of them was you know
Speaker 3: bars the tall and uh the way I can just so,
Speaker 3: we were asked by us Mill if we could bring
Speaker 3: our guys in to help support them withdrawal. So what
Speaker 3: they were going to do is rip, like literally in
Speaker 3: the course of three days, they were going to literally
Speaker 3: take everything out of this camp and extract it. So
Speaker 3: the camp was in a valley with nothing of a
Speaker 3: high ground all the way around it, and it was,
Speaker 3: as you point out, it was some really rugged terrain.
Speaker 3: It kind of reminded me. I remember landing at night
Speaker 3: one time, thinking, man, this feels like the jungles of Panama,
Speaker 3: you know, very wooded, very humid, very uh you know,
Speaker 3: rough terrain. But they were sitting right down in this
Speaker 3: little in this little little tiny valley, man, and the
Speaker 3: camp was probably one hundred one hundred and fifty meters square,
Speaker 3: maybe it was very small. It had one little hlz
Speaker 3: in the middle that could support one helicopter landing on it.
Speaker 3: That was it. And this platoon had been there for
Speaker 3: at least a year already and they got no break man.
Speaker 3: They were literally every day in gunfights. They could even
Speaker 3: leave the wire to go patrol, and they were constantly
Speaker 3: on defense. They were getting hammered down there, and so
Speaker 3: the decision was made that we got to pull them out.
Speaker 3: But they couldn't just bring in helicopters. The guys load
Speaker 3: up everything and fly away because soon as the helicopters
Speaker 3: would come in, they would, you know, they would be
Speaker 3: in contact. So the plan was for us, me and
Speaker 3: my guys are flying they actually it brought us in.
Speaker 3: We flew in on some in my seventeenth and we
Speaker 3: had two lifts. We went in. I think it was
Speaker 3: probably a total of about thirty of US, me and
Speaker 3: two of the Americans and then the rest Afghans, and
Speaker 3: we flew in the middle of the night, roughly around
Speaker 3: ten eleven o'clock at night, got out, met with the
Speaker 3: commander and basically he explained to us what the what
Speaker 3: the mission was. Basically what they wanted to us to
Speaker 3: do was go outside the wire and patrol the area
Speaker 3: around the base camp and basically just keep the bad
Speaker 3: guys back, keep them engaged so that the soldiers within
Speaker 3: the camp could load their gear. They were gonna bring
Speaker 3: in some helicopters they were gonna load up. They actually
Speaker 3: had a hume be there too. I don't know how
Speaker 3: they got that there, why it was used to it,
Speaker 3: but they had a home be. They're going to take
Speaker 3: that out. They were just gonna load up these aircraft,
Speaker 3: of course, for three days and just keep lifting everything else,
Speaker 3: lifting everything else out of the camp, and hopefully by
Speaker 3: within seventy two hours the camp would be evacuated. In
Speaker 3: the meantime, our job was to go out there and
Speaker 3: make contact with the bad guys and keep them back
Speaker 3: so this operation could take place. Well, I remember that
Speaker 3: night we arrived, We met with the captain, told them
Speaker 3: what we're going to go do. We refitted, and then
Speaker 3: we went out the wire and we had Our mission
Speaker 3: was to go up the road about maybe four or
Speaker 3: five kilometers. There was them a dross up there, and
Speaker 3: the Taliban used that as a staging base. Basically they
Speaker 3: would link up there. You know, get on their warped
Speaker 3: paint and ship and then uh, you know, they would
Speaker 3: launch their assaults from there. So we were just gonna
Speaker 3: go meet him there at the Madrassa and get it on.
Speaker 3: So as we leave the wire, we're walking up the road,
Speaker 3: it's relatively dark, and and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: the first forty seven is flying in. It's gonna land,
Speaker 3: they're gonna load it and then it's gonna take off
Speaker 3: with it with its supply. Well. As the helicopter was
Speaker 3: coming in to for you know, a very slow and
Speaker 3: low hover, there was a Taliban on the other side
Speaker 3: of the wire with an RPG and guess what he does.
Speaker 3: He shoots it down and it crashes into the fucking
Speaker 3: camp and so yeah, onto the only HLZ they got right,
Speaker 3: So bam, it slams it into the deck around, went
Speaker 3: through the floor of the helicopter. It actually took off
Speaker 3: the leg of one of the crew chiefs. So now
Speaker 3: we've got a disabled helicopters sitting inside the camp. They
Speaker 3: can't get it out, they can't do anything with it
Speaker 3: a camp and more helicopters can't medivate the menavact the
Speaker 3: guys out and then the firefights started. So we turn
Speaker 3: around and you could just see green tracers coming down
Speaker 3: from the high ground, red traces going up, you know,
Speaker 3: and there's a full on firefight man. And so we're
Speaker 3: standing there going, okay, well, what do we do do
Speaker 3: We try to go back and support them, but then
Speaker 3: we knew that would be a problem because trying to
Speaker 3: re enter you friendly foward lines, you know, we're gonna
Speaker 3: get caught in a cross fire. There's gonna be a
Speaker 3: there's gonna be drama with that, right, So we realize, okay,
Speaker 3: there's nothing we can do out here. Let the let
Speaker 3: the army with the military, you know, deal with those guys,
Speaker 3: and then we're going to continue mission. So we go
Speaker 3: up the road. We make it to the Madrasa and
Speaker 3: it's a dry hole. There's nothing there. So we're like, okay,
Speaker 3: let's move on up. Push up about another four kilometers.
Speaker 3: There's another village up there. Again we know this is UH,
Speaker 3: this is all Taliban country, and so we go up there.
Speaker 3: As crossing the bridge, we get UH word that we
Speaker 3: got squirters going out the other side of the UH
Speaker 3: of the village. So anyways, they cleared the village to
Speaker 3: get away. Nothing happened. We come back that morning on
Speaker 3: the firefight's over, and uh, you know, we refit, regrouped,
Speaker 3: and now we got this issue with this helicopter suent
Speaker 3: in the camp. Now what are we going to do?
Speaker 3: So what was really interesting was, and I didn't know this,
Speaker 3: but apparently the armies they have pilots that are especially
Speaker 3: trained to fly cripple aircraft. Right, So what they did
Speaker 3: is they brought us one. There's one badass pilot man
Speaker 3: and they roped them in the fast rope and his
Speaker 3: job was to go down there and start that aircraft
Speaker 3: and fly it, fly it out of there. Wow, you know,
Speaker 3: broken hall man. Yeah, I didn't know that. You know,
Speaker 3: it was like, damn, this guy's got some balls. Man,
Speaker 3: one guy man, that's his job, right, and so, uh
Speaker 3: so when they brought him in, they roped him in
Speaker 3: and uh then they brought a bunch of fast movers
Speaker 3: came flying in and basically was straight fened the hillsides
Speaker 3: to keep the bad guys down while this guy was
Speaker 3: you know, you know, turning knobs and pulling the leverage
Speaker 3: and cranking this thing up. He actually got it out
Speaker 3: of there. He actually flew this broken helicopter out of
Speaker 3: the HLZ. He cleared it up for us, so we decide, okay,
Speaker 3: the next night we'll continue mission. And we decided, okay,
Speaker 3: let's go I forget the direction, but I think it
Speaker 3: was west. We're still we're gonna go west. There's a
Speaker 3: village about six kilometers away. We know the Taliban stages
Speaker 3: out of there also, and so we're just gonna go
Speaker 3: down there and you know, set up an ambush, knowing
Speaker 3: they're gonna come and hit the camp that night, and
Speaker 3: we're just gonna ambush him. So so we take off
Speaker 3: and I remember we're walking around this this ridge line.
Speaker 3: It's really steep, man, I mean really steep, and we're
Speaker 3: walking on a goat trail that was maybe eighteen inches
Speaker 3: twenty four inches wide. It was a real muddy and slippery.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of water running down, and we'll wear
Speaker 3: night vision gloggles. It's pitch black. There's a lot of
Speaker 3: trees and uh cuising along, CUIs along, And then all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, I hear my interpreter behind me fall
Speaker 3: off the cliff right and he and he falls like
Speaker 3: maybe I don't know, twenty twenty five thirty feet down
Speaker 3: the side of this cliff, right, and he lands on
Speaker 3: the little ledge down there, and I could hear him,
Speaker 3: you know, you know, making you know, hoofing the puffet
Speaker 3: sounds and stuff. And I turned around and look down.
Speaker 3: I see him and I see what looks like just
Speaker 3: his whole face is like black. And the black was
Speaker 3: actually blood. Right, well, we're night vision goggles, so it looked,
Speaker 3: you know, it was dark black, but it was all blood.
Speaker 3: And he knocked his teeth out. His teeth were sticking
Speaker 3: out through his lips, his gums and stuff. And uh.
Speaker 3: And I looked at His name was HD. We call
Speaker 3: him HD for Harley Davison, right, he loved Harley Davison,
Speaker 3: even though he'll never own one. That was this thing,
Speaker 3: you know, so we always call him HD. I go HD,
Speaker 3: You okay, yes, sir, I'm okay, yes, sir, yes, sir.
Speaker 3: I'm like, you don't look good. And so we finally
Speaker 3: we would pull him up and I'm looking at him.
Speaker 3: Holy shit, dude, you're a mess, and uh. And then
Speaker 3: he begins to explain to me how that was the
Speaker 3: first night he ever wore night vision goggles. So are
Speaker 3: you kidding me? This is the first time you've been
Speaker 3: out on operation and you were an MVGS on a
Speaker 3: goat trail and uh, holy shit, man, what were you thinking, dude?
Speaker 3: And so anyways, you know, he fell off the cliff
Speaker 3: because he couldn't see because he didn't you didn't know
Speaker 3: how to use night vision goggles properly. And so we're
Speaker 3: sitting there and we had a Navy medic with us
Speaker 3: and bring him back forman and he's kind of patching up,
Speaker 3: you know, h HD. And then while we're sitting there,
Speaker 3: we're looking with the thermoals we could see so we're
Speaker 3: on this ridge line. We could see directly across to
Speaker 3: another ridge line about two hundred and fifty three hundred
Speaker 3: meters across from us, and we noticed a small fire
Speaker 3: burning and uh and so hold on, hold on for
Speaker 3: a second. Hey, I got my maid in here. She's
Speaker 3: cleaning and talked about employees. So anyway, so we see
Speaker 3: this fire burning and we're looking and looking looking, go okay,
Speaker 3: that looks really suspicious. Man. Well it turns out it
Speaker 3: was twelve Taliban and what they were doing they were
Speaker 3: one terrain feature away from the camp. So what they
Speaker 3: were doing is staging there. What they're gonna do it,
Speaker 3: get all spun up, and they come around and hit
Speaker 3: the camp that night from that position. So that was
Speaker 3: their you know, their MSS basically support site and uh
Speaker 3: and so anyways, so we we call, we called for
Speaker 3: close air support and there was happens to be I
Speaker 3: think it was an F fifteen on station. He had
Speaker 3: he had a couple of JDAMs with him, and uh,
Speaker 3: he was quite a ways out. You could even hear
Speaker 3: the aircraft. So we said, hey, you this us. You know,
Speaker 3: we we think we identify a Taliban location. We gave
Speaker 3: them the location. He's looking us his optics and like
Speaker 3: I said, he was so far out you couldn't even
Speaker 3: hear the guy. You had no idea he was on station.
Speaker 3: But he could actually see. He's actually counting. He goes, yeah,
Speaker 3: he got twelve guys armed AK forty seven weapons systems,
Speaker 3: blah blah blah. And he's very in detail describing these
Speaker 3: guys like holy shit. So we're like, all right, well
Speaker 3: send him to all lot man. And so the guy
Speaker 3: releases one thousand pounds Jadam and the time of flight
Speaker 3: was forty five seconds. And when he released it, he said, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's in round. We actually laid the target for him,
Speaker 3: and and you never heard the aircraft. You never even
Speaker 3: heard the jadam until it went off. And when it
Speaker 3: went off, I saw was pieces and parts flying through
Speaker 3: the air arms and legs and a K forty seven.
Speaker 3: We kept it all on if a red video and
Speaker 3: we kind of watched it the next day. It reveled
Speaker 3: over it. But so so we did that, and so
Speaker 3: we're like, okay, a mission accomplished. We don't need to
Speaker 3: go allway to the village. We go back. And then
Speaker 3: the next day these guys got the ass I guess
Speaker 3: decided it was some paybacks. So they come roll around
Speaker 3: there again, some more of them, and they happened to
Speaker 3: be an op lpop up on the on the high
Speaker 3: ground and a bunch of privates up there with forty
Speaker 3: nine and they just lazy killed another twelve killed another
Speaker 3: twelve of broad daylight coming around there. So we smoke
Speaker 3: quite a few guys in a couple of days we
Speaker 3: were there, and uh, we ended up you know, getting
Speaker 3: everybody out, every last man out, get all the equipment out,
Speaker 3: and was able to withdraw within the seventy two hours. Anyways,
Speaker 3: in spite of a shotdown helicopter in the compound. So
Speaker 3: but it was really you know, looking back at that,
Speaker 3: it's like, man, these guys were living hardcore little poncho
Speaker 3: who just for a year sleeping them up. They had
Speaker 3: no Wi Fi, no TV, they had nothing. Man, they
Speaker 3: were living they were living in really rough field conditions
Speaker 3: for a year and they're fighting out every day. And
Speaker 3: I'm like, man, that's you know, that's a hardcore shit there.
Speaker 3: But glad to get them out of there, because man,
Speaker 3: they were taking a beating and they were pretty much
Speaker 3: combat and effect. They couldn't leave the wire. They're just
Speaker 3: sitting ducks, you know, and uh and getting pop shots
Speaker 3: at them. So but that was an interesting mission. It
Speaker 3: was a lot of fun, went pretty fast and uh
Speaker 3: but you know, we got her downe and got everybody
Speaker 3: out of there. So unfortunately the other camp we didn't
Speaker 3: deal with the other camp. With the first camp, they
Speaker 3: took some serious casualties up there. I remember when that
Speaker 3: firefight happened, was a big deal. And this these three
Speaker 3: fobs were the northernmost US mill camps in Afghanistan. There
Speaker 3: was nothing else up there. I mean they were way
Speaker 3: out there too, I mean, really tough terrain, to get
Speaker 3: to you know, I said, the helicopters the only way
Speaker 3: to get in and out of there, and they shot
Speaker 3: down the one helicopter to HLS. They could have been worse, man,
Speaker 3: I could just imagine it had this thing, you know,
Speaker 3: disintegrated in the compound. You know, maybe you know, kill
Speaker 3: a bunch of men or something, you know, and hit
Speaker 3: field dumps. You know, it could have been a disaster, man,
Speaker 3: But it all worked out. Like I said, I was
Speaker 3: really impressed with the pilot to know that they had
Speaker 3: guys like that. Like that guy's got a pair of
Speaker 3: balls like a bull. Man. You're gonna come in here,
Speaker 3: rope them in at night and he's gonna get he's
Speaker 3: gonna get a cockpit and start pushing button to pull
Speaker 3: a lever and you know, praying to God just think
Speaker 3: fucking flies out of there, you know. And he did it, man,
Speaker 3: he actually did it. So pretty cool, you know.
Speaker 4: Dale, that's actually you know, you mentioned these fobs and
Speaker 4: that's something. And for those of you don't know, it's
Speaker 4: just a Ford Operating Base. It's you know, a little
Speaker 4: camp out in the middle of nowhere generally, but you know,
Speaker 4: we've talked about how special ops is really you know,
Speaker 4: everybody loves the sexy mission of the of special ops,
Speaker 4: but these conventional forces were out there, like at these
Speaker 4: remote places or on these law patrols, mixing it up
Speaker 4: all the time, and they really don't get the credit
Speaker 4: that they deserve.
Speaker 3: No, that's true, man, It's that's true. I was up
Speaker 3: in the corner Gall also, and so you had a
Speaker 3: bunch of fops in that area, same thing. Those guys
Speaker 3: were just getting pounded every day, man. And corn Gall
Speaker 3: was probably it was regardless, most dangerous place on the
Speaker 3: planet at that time. And it wasn't if you're going
Speaker 3: to get in contact, it was when and how bad.
Speaker 3: But if you go up into corn Gall, you're going
Speaker 3: to get smacked, you know. And there was there were
Speaker 3: guys up there every day, you know, slinging lead with
Speaker 3: each other, with the bad guys, you know. So yeah,
Speaker 3: they're you're right, man, they're out there, they're doing it,
Speaker 3: you know, and uh they're living in some hardcore conditions,
Speaker 3: you know, and uh and uh it sucks. But on
Speaker 3: one hand, you know, I mean I kind of lived that, man, Yeah,
Speaker 3: right right. You know.
Speaker 1: Of course, Dale As I recall, I mean, you retired
Speaker 1: from the Army, like just before nine to eleven. And
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think there's any way that a
Speaker 1: dude like you was gonna miss the war on Terror.
Speaker 1: You did find a way, of course, obviously, to deal
Speaker 1: your way into the action. I remember you once telling
Speaker 1: me that you actually went out on ops by yourself
Speaker 1: a few times with the image, which I.
Speaker 2: Thought was pretty cool.
Speaker 1: I mean, what was this experience, like, I guess we're
Speaker 1: gonna say, oga, what was that like by comparison to
Speaker 1: your military experience?
Speaker 3: It was I want to say it was better because one,
Speaker 3: I was entrusted with a lot of men and a
Speaker 3: lot of money and mission right, so you know, I
Speaker 3: mean I was literally downranged. I only can describe it
Speaker 3: like Colonel Kurtz up the river in Apocalypse. Now. You know,
Speaker 3: there were there were times I was up the river
Speaker 3: in a camp with me maybe one or two other
Speaker 3: Americans maybe and uh, you know, anywhere from fifty to
Speaker 3: five hundred you know, Afghan mercenaries and especially in the
Speaker 3: in the beginning of the war. You know, I had
Speaker 3: a lot of latitude just to get the job done.
Speaker 3: You know, I can remember walking into the camp to
Speaker 3: the base ops talking to the chief there and going, hey, man,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take the guys out tonight. We go down
Speaker 3: the road and wena hit that target back tomorrow morning.
Speaker 3: He's like okay, and he's out there and he's painting
Speaker 3: and ship, you know, he's doing he's like doing some
Speaker 3: weirder jobs. You know. It's like, yeah, okay, yeah, just
Speaker 3: don't get nobody hurt. You know, let me know what
Speaker 3: happened tomorrow morning, Like, yeah, Roger that and I'd go
Speaker 3: do my thing, you know, and uh, and there was
Speaker 3: no you know, there was no oversight. People just trusted me,
Speaker 3: you know, and they knew that, you know, I was
Speaker 3: able to do the right thing, to fight the war
Speaker 3: on terror, to beat the bad guys, whatever it took,
Speaker 3: and which is really cool, man to have that kind
Speaker 3: of given that kind of responsibility and uh, and had
Speaker 3: that kind of trust to go do that. And there
Speaker 3: were times, you're right. As the war went on, I
Speaker 3: worked with some of the same guys a lot, and uh,
Speaker 3: you know, they trusted me. I took care of them,
Speaker 3: you know, I mean I treated they were my soldiers,
Speaker 3: but I treated them with respect, with dignity. You know.
Speaker 3: I cared about them and their wives as well as
Speaker 3: their families. And so you know, I did what I
Speaker 3: thought the leader is supposed to do. You know, Unfortunately,
Speaker 3: you know this is gonna I'm gonna say it, but uh,
Speaker 3: a lot of guys don't get it, particularly you know,
Speaker 3: in the Navy. You know they're working with the indiage.
Speaker 3: And I say the Navy, I'm talking about particularly the Seals.
Speaker 3: You know, they don't have that background of working with
Speaker 3: Indigenous people and Green berets as you know, you know,
Speaker 3: Jack both you guys, you know that was our mission.
Speaker 3: Man is the is the windhearts and minds, train the
Speaker 3: Indigenous to basically stand up on our own armies and
Speaker 3: to go fight, fight war, and and that requires that
Speaker 3: we took care of our guys and we treat them
Speaker 3: with dignity, with respect. We didn't treat them like dogs.
Speaker 3: We didn't talk shit to them, We didn't abuse them,
Speaker 3: because that will come back and haunt you. That will
Speaker 3: that will end you somewhere on the battlefield by your
Speaker 3: own men if you do that wrong. And so these
Speaker 3: other guys didn't get that, and I got countless stories
Speaker 3: about that. But anyways, that was my mission was you know,
Speaker 3: always do the right thing by my soldiers, and so
Speaker 3: I look, I had the pay. You know, I had
Speaker 3: to check book, and you know, if the guys did
Speaker 3: a really good job, it's like, you know, here you go,
Speaker 3: here's a bonus to take the day off, take two
Speaker 3: days off. In fact, you know, you know I took
Speaker 3: care of my guys that way because I knew that
Speaker 3: would you know, the return would be huge on that
Speaker 3: down the road when I needed it. And I was right.
Speaker 3: So I had opportune of guys that forty two. In
Speaker 3: fact that you know, these guys, I would literally go
Speaker 3: out on operations by myself with them. Now I know
Speaker 3: I'm breaking you know, breaking protocol and all kinds of rules.
Speaker 3: Two man rule, you know, as an American, you got
Speaker 3: to go out with another American. But I got to
Speaker 3: the point with these guys that I trusted them so much.
Speaker 3: We've been out down range so many many times that
Speaker 3: and I mean I remember them telling me, you know,
Speaker 3: I remember one time they had a little formation and
Speaker 3: they're like, mister Dell, you know, we will never let
Speaker 3: anything happen to you. We will build a human wall
Speaker 3: around you. We will protect you with our lives. And
Speaker 3: I believe that, man, because I saw it, you know,
Speaker 3: And so I could go out down range two three
Speaker 3: days at a time, nobody knew what the hell I
Speaker 3: was at, you know, I was everywhere Afghanistania, out the
Speaker 3: freak in the middle of nowhere, you know, and we're
Speaker 3: going out and hitting targets and stuff, you know. And
Speaker 3: they could have easily, they could have easily let the
Speaker 3: air out of me out there somewhere and buried me
Speaker 3: and said, we don't know where he went, you know.
Speaker 3: And but that never happened. And you know, maybe I
Speaker 3: got lucky, I don't know, but I don't think so.
Speaker 3: I became very good friends with a lot of these guys,
Speaker 3: and particularly one of them's h He was one of
Speaker 3: the commanders, young, young guy, but definitely a go get
Speaker 3: her man. The whole platoon was, this particular platoon was
Speaker 3: very was very different from your typical Afghan They were
Speaker 3: more Western oriented their mindset, their personalities. You know, you
Speaker 3: could tell they loved the West, they love the American way,
Speaker 3: and so they were different in that regard. But the
Speaker 3: commander had been around for a while. Although he was young,
Speaker 3: his you know, his family had fought the Mouja Den
Speaker 3: he had lost, you know, family members, and this guy
Speaker 3: was on the hit list. You know, Taliban wanted this
Speaker 3: guy because of who he was and what he was
Speaker 3: in charge of. And I was always afraid that, you know,
Speaker 3: when we pull out as Americans, this guy is gonna
Speaker 3: get smoked. He's gonna kill him man, you know him
Speaker 3: and his family. And so one day I just never
Speaker 3: showed back up. I'd been going to the same camp
Speaker 3: for about almost eighteen months, and then I got reassigned
Speaker 3: because it was a problem at another camp and it
Speaker 3: had to do with you know, the American Afghan interaction,
Speaker 3: you know, poor leadership, blah blah blah, and I kind
Speaker 3: of got sent out there to try to, you know,
Speaker 3: fix this situation. So I never got to go back
Speaker 3: and see you know, the commander, and never saw him
Speaker 3: after that. And then long after I got out, I
Speaker 3: always wondered what happened to him. You know, I'm like, man,
Speaker 3: I'm afraid that, you know, he's gonna get killed one day,
Speaker 3: and so lo and behold, I get a message on Facebook.
Speaker 3: So I was always operating under you know, a fake name,
Speaker 3: fake everything. You know, nobody knew my real name, and
Speaker 3: this guy had found me on Facebook and he's messaging
Speaker 3: me and he's like, hey man, he goes me and
Speaker 3: my family are now in the United States. You know,
Speaker 3: he had he had five five boys and a daughter
Speaker 3: I think, and uh and his wife. They all made
Speaker 3: it to the States, made to Virginia, got a job.
Speaker 3: You know, people took care of him, you know. But
Speaker 3: they got him a special beast and got him out
Speaker 3: of there because they recognized that this guy is gonna
Speaker 3: get He's gonna get killed, man, no doubt he's gonna
Speaker 3: get kill when Americans left, and you know, look look
Speaker 3: what happened, man, I mean, let's look at what happened
Speaker 3: last August. Right here we go. How many people got killed?
Speaker 3: You know, no matter how many people are still getting killed.
Speaker 3: You know, I got to I guarantee you he would
Speaker 3: have been one of those guys. And in fact, some
Speaker 3: of my guys were killed. Some of my guys. They
Speaker 3: basically I think it was a total of thirteen. It
Speaker 3: was the last stand for them, man. They literally fought
Speaker 3: to the last bullet and they got killed, you know,
Speaker 3: trying to keep the keep the the Taliban wave back.
Speaker 3: So I know it's I know what it happened, and
Speaker 3: it was gonna happen to him. He beat the odds.
Speaker 3: The guy out there. He's lived in the United States.
Speaker 3: Actually just saw him about two years ago, which was
Speaker 3: really cool. But but yeah, this, you know, I would
Speaker 3: go out with these guys, you know, on a regular
Speaker 3: basis by myself, you know, and I trusted them, and uh,
Speaker 3: it is what it is. You know, we got the
Speaker 3: job done, and I kind of had a different perspective,
Speaker 3: you know. You know, I remember the guy that shot
Speaker 3: down a turban three three Okay, he was a young
Speaker 3: guy in fact, and we got intel one day that
Speaker 3: he had arrived at one of the local villages and
Speaker 3: we we knew he was there, and I'm like, great,
Speaker 3: let's go get this guy. But my unit, the Afghans,
Speaker 3: had been basically they've been stood down right because of
Speaker 3: this issue I mentioned earlier with the Seals, and there
Speaker 3: was a rift just what happened, and it wasn't good
Speaker 3: Afghan's fault. That was what I found out later on.
Speaker 3: So anyways, but nonetheless they were told to stand down
Speaker 3: for six months. We trained this blah blah blah. Now
Speaker 3: we got this guy from you know, shutdown turban three
Speaker 3: to three right down like two kilometers away. And I'm like, man,
Speaker 3: let me take the boys. Let's go get to this guy.
Speaker 3: This guy wasn't on the top of the HBT list,
Speaker 3: and he was right up there. Everybody wanted this guy.
Speaker 3: And I remember I was told no because the guys
Speaker 3: aren't they're not operational. And I go, the hell, they're
Speaker 3: not operational. I'm running these guys. I'm telling you they're operational.
Speaker 3: This is either road on the road, we get the guy,
Speaker 3: we'd come back, and they just they just said no,
Speaker 3: kept saying no. And I'm like, look, you hired me
Speaker 3: as a contractor, all right, I got all these skills.
Speaker 3: I said, then I'll go. You pay me a lot
Speaker 3: of money. Let me just go. If I don't come back,
Speaker 3: I don't come back, you know. But it was he
Speaker 3: sending me. Man. You know, I was mission oriented. These
Speaker 3: guys were risk averse. And it got that way, you know,
Speaker 3: as you know later on in the war, you know,
Speaker 3: everybody became risk a verse. Nobody was interested in winning
Speaker 3: the war. It just became, uh, you know, it became
Speaker 3: check the block, check the block. Right. So I remember
Speaker 3: some of the camps I'm at, We've got literally we've
Speaker 3: got these these case officers the logistics officers you know,
Speaker 3: from Paris Embassy from Europe, and we call them combat
Speaker 3: tourists as you know, right there there checking the block.
Speaker 3: You know, I was in combat when they never left
Speaker 3: the damn wire and they didn't even have a damn
Speaker 3: firearm on them. You know, it just turned into a
Speaker 3: total bullshit. That war should have been over a long
Speaker 3: time ago, but it just turned into a self looking
Speaker 3: ice cream for a lot of people. You know, Ye, sadly,
Speaker 3: it is what it is. But that's why I left
Speaker 3: in twenty eleven. I just had enough and I thought,
Speaker 3: Jesus Christ, you know, I'm gonna get killed for what?
Speaker 3: For nothing? And I was right for I was right.
Speaker 3: Look what happened, man, Look what happened. All these men
Speaker 3: are dead, women are dead for nothing. Nothing happened, you know, nothing.
Speaker 3: We show UBL a long time ago why we were
Speaker 3: still there then, you.
Speaker 1: Know, so bullshit they Uh Well, you said you left
Speaker 1: in twenty eleven from UH as far as contracting for
Speaker 1: our government, you kind of thought you were gonna I mean,
Speaker 1: you did go into UH television a little bit, started
Speaker 1: making some inroads on Hollywood. You thought, kind of like
Speaker 1: your soldiering days, were behind you from some of the
Speaker 1: things you've said. But then, uh, well, in the sequence
Speaker 1: of events, I mean, what what was it the.
Speaker 2: Hong Kong gig that came first?
Speaker 3: So yeah, So what happened was I literally got discovered
Speaker 3: by Discovery Channel, right, it was kind of weird and
Speaker 3: uh and so they, you know it, said, you know,
Speaker 3: we'd like for your try out. It's a TV show
Speaker 3: called One Man Army, And I thought, what can that
Speaker 3: be kind of cool? Do that be kind of like
Speaker 3: closing the chapter to my military paramilitary career, you know?
Speaker 3: And I thought it'd be kind of a cool way
Speaker 3: to go out do a little TV show, And so
Speaker 3: I did and I got selected, and uh and so
Speaker 3: I did. I guess I did pretty well on that show.
Speaker 3: And then I got a call about six months later
Speaker 3: from NBC said, Hey, we like what we saw Discovery.
Speaker 3: Would you be interested in trying out for this TV show,
Speaker 3: which was Stars and Stripes. As I understand that there
Speaker 3: were about ten thousand applicants that tried out for that show.
Speaker 3: I was one of eight, along with Chris Kyle and
Speaker 3: a couple of other guys on the show, to actually
Speaker 3: get selected. It was pretty long process. It was a
Speaker 3: lot of interviews. I'd actually fly out to the Universal
Speaker 3: studios and do an on site interview in front of
Speaker 3: the cameras. You know. Again, I did pretty well, and
Speaker 3: so I got selected and there I was. Now I'm
Speaker 3: doing I'm doing the Hollywood thing. And then that turned
Speaker 3: into other people started noticing me, wanted them meet with me.
Speaker 3: In fact, I went out with so I became really
Speaker 3: good friends with Terry Crews still end of this day.
Speaker 3: And Eva Torres, the WWE wrestler, she invited me to
Speaker 3: come out to an event, so I went out there.
Speaker 3: While I was out there, I got approached by some
Speaker 3: people that knew of me actually when it was a
Speaker 3: former student of mine, and said, we'd like to talk
Speaker 3: to you, and so, okay, we do. And it's a
Speaker 3: production company. They're they're pretty right wing out of Dallas,
Speaker 3: and I said, we need a poster boy. We want
Speaker 3: to make a conservative production company. We want to invite
Speaker 3: veterans to come out and participate in Hollywood events and
Speaker 3: things like that. We want to be more we want
Speaker 3: to do more right leading stuff than left leading stuff,
Speaker 3: and we need I use the poster board. So I
Speaker 3: was all in and started networking going to a lot
Speaker 3: of producers, you know. I just started getting around in Hollywood,
Speaker 3: is what was happening. And they were trying to pitch
Speaker 3: some TV shows for me. I ended up on a
Speaker 3: few shows, you know. So this whole thing was starting
Speaker 3: to get some grow some legs, and a couple of
Speaker 3: years out into it, there's some other weird stuff that happened.
Speaker 3: I'm not yeah, I probably shouldn't share it today, but
Speaker 3: there was some other really weird stuff started happening. Right.
Speaker 3: Little did I know that not only am I a
Speaker 3: poster boy, but I'm actually a prop for a bigger
Speaker 3: for government agencies for that way, So there's a very
Speaker 3: huge Chinese or Russian presence in Hollywood. They own everything.
Speaker 3: So I'll let you put it all together. Next thing,
Speaker 3: I know, I'm like, why are you guys giving me
Speaker 3: all this cash? And I'm not signing for anything, you know,
Speaker 3: and and on a regular basis, And what am I
Speaker 3: doing here again? You know, just do your thing, you know,
Speaker 3: be the Hollywood guy, you know, networking okay, And I
Speaker 3: didn't ask any questions, but got really weird, really weird
Speaker 3: after a while. And then then I realized, holy shit, man,
Speaker 3: I'm in another spy versus spy fucking movie and don't
Speaker 3: even know it yet and so so anyways, after a
Speaker 3: couple of years, I was asked to move to Hollywood
Speaker 3: to live out there. I was told I could be
Speaker 3: the next Danny Treo. I could be on all kinds
Speaker 3: of TV shows. And I had to do a little thinking. Man,
Speaker 3: I was like, is this who I really am? Is
Speaker 3: this me? You know? Because I don't like these people
Speaker 3: man for the most part. You know, they're They're a
Speaker 3: different culture, different mindset. You know. I'm used to actually
Speaker 3: being an action guy and not pretending to be an
Speaker 3: action guy, I know. And so so that kind of
Speaker 3: ended up. I ended up moving to Hong Kong and
Speaker 3: I was working over there running security detail for a
Speaker 3: multi billionaire investment banker, which is okay, it's kind of cool.
Speaker 3: I was living downtown one Chai, Hong Kong.
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Speaker 1: All right, So Dale, back to you. You were working
Speaker 1: for an investment banker in Hong Kong, that was the deal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I was protected. I was running a security detail.
Speaker 3: I was one of the guys run the security detail,
Speaker 3: so you know, I ended up falling into That's a
Speaker 3: couple of things happened. That pup decides the Hollywood thing
Speaker 3: not you know, I wasn't interested and started losing interest
Speaker 3: in it. The other thing that happened was I had
Speaker 3: sold another one of my companies. So I've owned several companies.
Speaker 3: I've sold them to G four s Wacken Hut. I
Speaker 3: sold this other company twenty eleven to another company. I
Speaker 3: was running this company out of my office at home
Speaker 3: for about two years, making real from twenty three thousand
Speaker 3: dollars a month, just sit in my office. And anyways,
Speaker 3: that went south, and it didn't go south because I
Speaker 3: was sitting in my office. It was south because the
Speaker 3: investors were doing their job. But nonetheless, I decided to
Speaker 3: pull a pitch and get out of there. Ended up
Speaker 3: in Hong Kong, and then that's actually where I met
Speaker 3: my wife. She's Indonesia, and she went back to Indonesia.
Speaker 3: I went back to the States, and then eventually I
Speaker 3: went to Indonesia. You know, chasing drawers, that's what we do,
Speaker 3: right and so so I went over to meet her
Speaker 3: and started looking around and started realizing there's business opportunities.
Speaker 3: So I'm actually talking to you right now from Bali.
Speaker 3: That's where my office is in Bali, Indonesia. But we decided,
Speaker 3: you know, hey, there's some business opportunities here in relatives
Speaker 3: and security canines blah blah blah. And my wife had
Speaker 3: started our business here and we've been in Bali. I've
Speaker 3: lived Indonesia now almost seven years, I think, and I've
Speaker 3: been in Bali over four and a half years. And
Speaker 3: we're running explosive detective dogs, patrol attack dogs, and narcotic
Speaker 3: detector dogs for like all the Marriott properties and the
Speaker 3: local venues here. So it's pretty cool gig, you know.
Speaker 3: I get to I get to play with my dogs
Speaker 3: and make money off of them too, you know. And uh,
Speaker 3: you know, we did really well here right up until COVID,
Speaker 3: you know, took our legs out from under us. Like
Speaker 3: everybody else. It wasn't really COVID, it was all the
Speaker 3: freaking crooks that capitalized on it. But nonetheless, we're back
Speaker 3: and we're back in business, and uh just signed another contract,
Speaker 3: signed two contracts, so you know, we're back in business here.
Speaker 3: So that's why that's how I ended up in Bali.
Speaker 3: I live here. I have a home in Florida as well.
Speaker 3: Also actually have another home in the Philippines. But uh
Speaker 3: so I kind of like live out of a suitcase.
Speaker 3: So with all I said, you would think that, okay,
Speaker 3: after the Hall, you know, the Hong Kong field, that
Speaker 3: was kind of a cool gig, kind of everybody thinks
Speaker 3: that being a bodyguard is like really uh you know,
Speaker 3: really cool. I gotta tell you, man, it sucks all right.
Speaker 3: On one hand, you know, living in Hong Kong, that
Speaker 3: was the cool part. Living in Hong Kong, Okay, one
Speaker 3: of my favorite cities until the Chinese took back over.
Speaker 3: But it's a really cool place. But being the work
Speaker 3: of a body card is. It sucks and I keep
Speaker 3: saying that, but it actually sucks. It's a good job
Speaker 3: for it's a good job for younger guys, you know,
Speaker 3: but you know, for guys like me, it's like insulting
Speaker 3: in a lot of ways, you know. I so the
Speaker 3: pay was okay, Actually the pay has been really well.
Speaker 3: I got paid very well. And I'll share the story
Speaker 3: with you about la here in a minute. But going
Speaker 3: back to the Hong Kong deal. So here, I am investing,
Speaker 3: you know, for providing security for this really wealthy Chinese
Speaker 3: guy in his mid fifties, late fifties, married to a
Speaker 3: thirty two year old Mexican model, big old boobs on her,
Speaker 3: you know, good looking, beautiful insight, but the ugliest person
Speaker 3: you'll ever meet on the inside. Oh my god, man,
Speaker 3: she was horrible. Man. And you know, we all know
Speaker 3: what that was about. But anyways, it was a difficult
Speaker 3: job in that, you know, dealing with the client. They're
Speaker 3: just rich. People suck, Okay, that's a.
Speaker 2: Matter of fact.
Speaker 3: People suck. And you know there's a reason that they're rich,
Speaker 3: and it's because they're really good at walking over a
Speaker 3: lot of other people man to get there and that's
Speaker 3: a fact. I've got a lot of rich business partners,
Speaker 3: rich friends, rich clients. I got one guy, he's a billionaire.
Speaker 3: Ohs be four hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Yeah, he's
Speaker 3: a billionaire, and he screwed me out of four hundred
Speaker 3: and fifty thousand dollars. Man, So kind of let the
Speaker 3: bad taste in my mouth these people. And the lesson
Speaker 3: learning out of that is be your own boss, hero's
Speaker 3: success story. Don't count on none of these other people, man,
Speaker 3: because everybody will take from you. So I said earlier
Speaker 3: before the interview, you know how you need mean and
Speaker 3: vile and nasty people really are? I got some. I
Speaker 3: got another story on that one too. So anyways, I
Speaker 3: did this for a while. You know, Like I said,
Speaker 3: it's kind of a thankless job. You get paid, but
Speaker 3: you're treated like shit. You know. Here, I am a
Speaker 3: guy with a PhD, you know, and I got I
Speaker 3: got another friend of mine ready for this. He's a
Speaker 3: seal commander, lawyer for Blackwater, and he's a bodyguard with me.
Speaker 3: And we got this thirty two year old client, you know,
Speaker 3: with one fucking live brainshell talking down to us like
Speaker 3: we're the little freaking kids, like hell, you know, So
Speaker 3: that's what I mean by that. But so I ended
Speaker 3: up doing all that, and then other things started happening.
Speaker 3: I had an opportunity to go to Yemen. We've you know,
Speaker 3: we've kind of talked about that in another episode. But basically,
Speaker 3: while I was here, So the same company I was
Speaker 3: working for in Hong Kong, the Friends of Mine, I
Speaker 3: worked for them in South Africa, Mexico. You know, I
Speaker 3: did a lot of stuff with him, contracting as a consultant,
Speaker 3: security consultant, bodyguard, et cetera. So so here's the story out.
Speaker 3: So I'm going right into this one. This was kind
Speaker 3: of cool. So one night I'm in South Africa sitting
Speaker 3: around the pool with a guy. The owner of his
Speaker 3: name will call him a g and uh AG's a
Speaker 3: pretty freaking hardcore, no shit kind of guy. Man. He
Speaker 3: either likes you or he don't. If you don't like you,
Speaker 3: he'll let you know about it too. And so luckily
Speaker 3: I was, you know, I was a good friend with
Speaker 3: this guy, and I got a little just fine with him.
Speaker 3: So we're in South Africa sitting around the pool one
Speaker 3: night and he's like Dale, he goes he goes, how
Speaker 3: come you do all these other things? You know, why
Speaker 3: don't you just focus on security and you know you
Speaker 3: could be really good at that and make a lot
Speaker 3: of money. You know, why do you do this and
Speaker 3: do that? Because at the time, I was like teaching
Speaker 3: as a professor for Henry Putnam University. I'm a journeyman.
Speaker 3: I just travel around doing weird jobs, right, like going
Speaker 3: to Singapore to training dogs. And I told him, I said, well,
Speaker 3: you know, I said, you know, I said, I said,
Speaker 3: I got a lot of ex wives out there need
Speaker 3: to get paid, you know, a parasites man. You know,
Speaker 3: I've gotta pay them off all the time. You know,
Speaker 3: I got a lot of kids, and you know, and
Speaker 3: so so I said, I go where the work is
Speaker 3: I make my money. I said, I'm pretty happy because
Speaker 3: I get to travel, I get to do different things.
Speaker 3: I wear a different hat every day, and so it's
Speaker 3: not so bad. And he looks at me. He goes, man,
Speaker 3: he goes, what if I gave you fifty thousand dollars cash?
Speaker 3: He goes, would that help you? And I thought about
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, of course it would help me,
Speaker 3: but I'm not taking it. And he wanted to give
Speaker 3: me fifty thousand dollars cash because he thought it would
Speaker 3: relieve some pressure, right, and so that I could focus
Speaker 3: on just you know, security, for example. And I said no,
Speaker 3: I said, you know what, I can't accept your money.
Speaker 3: I said, I don't take money. I don't earn. And
Speaker 3: so we kind of got an argument over the swimming pool,
Speaker 3: round the swim pool and he's like, well, he goes,
Speaker 3: tell me Dale. He goes, You've done so much in
Speaker 3: your life. What's next? What are you gonna do next?
Speaker 3: And I looked at him, I go, I want to
Speaker 3: be like you. He looks at me like I go, what,
Speaker 3: And yeah, I want to be like you. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: be some rich guys sitting around a fucking pool asking
Speaker 3: people what they're gonna do with their lives. You know.
Speaker 3: It couldn't give him fifty thousand dollars, so, you know,
Speaker 3: so we ended up parting ways. That night. I went
Speaker 3: to our rooms and the next morning his partner calls
Speaker 3: me to the office and uh, he goes, hey, AG
Speaker 3: left the O this morning, went back home. But you know,
Speaker 3: he just put fifty thousand dollars in your bank account.
Speaker 3: And I was like, what the hell? Man? And so
Speaker 3: he goes, you can't give it back. We're not taking
Speaker 3: it back. We don't want it back. He goes, Listen,
Speaker 3: he goes, other people have helped us, Other veterans have
Speaker 3: come up and helped us when we needed. And he goes,
Speaker 3: we wanted to do the same thing, you know. And uh,
Speaker 3: I said, well, I appreciate all that. But I said,
Speaker 3: I don't work for free. So I said, count, count,
Speaker 3: this is paying. He's paid this forward. So next time
Speaker 3: you have a project, I said, you call me. I'll
Speaker 3: drop what I'm doing. I'll come here wherever and go
Speaker 3: to work for you. Right, you get your money back.
Speaker 3: So that wasn't even enough, man, And then he put
Speaker 3: me on a seven thousand dollars a month retainer for
Speaker 3: next six months. My damn. So I'm making I'm doing
Speaker 3: all right. And and so then I leave and I
Speaker 3: ended up going back to Indonesia. I start my security
Speaker 3: business here and I'm married yet, but we start this enterprise.
Speaker 3: And then one day I'm flying back to the US
Speaker 3: and I get a text message from ag. He goes, hey, man,
Speaker 3: I need to talk to you by some security related stuff.
Speaker 3: This is over a year later, a year and a
Speaker 3: half later, and I thought, man, you know, I got
Speaker 3: my own security business. These conflict adventures, I really wasn't
Speaker 3: interested at this point. I was excited about starting my
Speaker 3: own company here. So I get to the stage, he
Speaker 3: text me, game knows, I really really need to talk
Speaker 3: to you if I can't talk to you over the phone.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, I don't know. You know aget, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm him in a haunt. He goes, Okay, listen, He goes,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna buy your plane ticket to San Diego. He goes, well,
Speaker 3: you get here, I'm gonna pay you six thousand dollars
Speaker 3: three hours of your time. I got it. You got
Speaker 3: to listen to me. Shit, Okay, So it must be important.
Speaker 3: So I fly out there. He's leaning up against this
Speaker 3: bad ass, freaking portion at the airport. I show up.
Speaker 3: He hands me an envelope with six thousand dollars cash
Speaker 3: and he's getting bitch. We take off right and uh.
Speaker 3: We end up in his neighborhood, which was pretty amazing.
Speaker 3: I mean he literally he lived next door to Bill
Speaker 3: Gates and a whole bunch of other other people. Holy shit,
Speaker 3: this guy's rolling in dough and he was so that evening,
Speaker 3: we had a you know, we sat down, we had dinner,
Speaker 3: and he and his partner told me what the plan was, right,
Speaker 3: and so basically it was they had a contract with
Speaker 3: the Imiordis and uh, basically to take out their HPTs, right,
Speaker 3: they need a special force capability to have it. Age
Speaker 3: promised them that we could deliver this, and so you know, okay, yeah, Roger,
Speaker 3: that sounds like a good idea, pretty cool. But you know,
Speaker 3: I'm going back to Indonesia in three days, and uh,
Speaker 3: I really didn't want to go. And so he already
Speaker 3: threw forty thousand dollars cash on the table in front
Speaker 3: of me. He goes, that's yours, right, And I'm like, look, dude,
Speaker 3: I go. I said to you, I said, you do
Speaker 3: the first one. I said, I'll come in for the
Speaker 3: fall on evolutions. I just got to go home, you know,
Speaker 3: see my girl, and kind of you know, I'm not
Speaker 3: always ready for this shit, you know, And he goes, no,
Speaker 3: if I don't, if I can't have you for the
Speaker 3: first one, and I don't need you for the other ones,
Speaker 3: and so I'm like, damn, okay, I said, all right, okay, okay,
Speaker 3: I'm in right, so I fly home. I said, I
Speaker 3: got to go to Indonesia first though, So I literally
Speaker 3: the next morning, I fly to Indonesia. I see my wife,
Speaker 3: my girl. I lie to her. I said, look, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna go to the Middle East. I'm doing some consulting,
Speaker 3: you know, security consulting work, you know, make a little
Speaker 3: bit of money. Be right back, no danger problem, right back.
Speaker 3: Oh okay. So they tell me, don't bring any equipment.
Speaker 3: You don't need it. It's already provided for you. Right.
Speaker 3: Oh okay. So I fly. I fly from Jakarta all
Speaker 3: the way to New York LaGuardia. I check into a
Speaker 3: hotel as I'm supposed to. I'm waiting around downstairs in
Speaker 3: the lounge area, restaurant area, having a beer, and I
Speaker 3: noticed there's a bunch of French dudes walking around. They
Speaker 3: all look pretty fit, you know, but they're French, and
Speaker 3: so I'll get a little suspicious. And then I had
Speaker 3: to be up in a hotel room around ten thirty
Speaker 3: that night. We all had to meet there. Okay, we
Speaker 3: all were given instruction at this time meet this room.
Speaker 3: So I show up in there and there's all these
Speaker 3: French duds are standing there. There's eleven of us total.
Speaker 3: You know, Age is partner of seal me and then
Speaker 3: the other the French, the French foreign legionaires is what
Speaker 3: they are. And so we're all standing looking at you.
Speaker 3: They're like, who's who you know? Like the movie Roning.
Speaker 3: And then Age he's like, all right, guys, here's here's
Speaker 3: the mission. Here's the plan. He goes, this is what
Speaker 3: we're gonna go do. He goes. If you're not interested,
Speaker 3: he goes, you can keep the twenty thousand dollars I
Speaker 3: gave you and just leave right now and no questions asked,
Speaker 3: go back home, like fuck man. So everybody got twenty
Speaker 3: twenty grand except for me. I had forty grand. I
Speaker 3: had ton Nobody well, there was a reason I got
Speaker 3: forty grand, and I was about to find that out
Speaker 3: in a second. So nobody quit. He goes, okay, good,
Speaker 3: because welcome on board. He goes, so, and then he
Speaker 3: points at me. He tells everybody in the room. He goes,
Speaker 3: that guy's in charge of everything, he's the boss. Whatever
Speaker 3: he says, goes, you do what he tells. You do everything.
Speaker 3: I'm like, what me? So, you know, I don't even
Speaker 3: know what the hell's going on? Here right now, and
Speaker 3: I'm in charge right all of a sudden of everything
Speaker 3: and literally everything and all right, So the next day
Speaker 3: we have to meet downstairs. In the evening, we get
Speaker 3: on a bus, a bunch of vands, and we go
Speaker 3: to Teterborough's private air force airport up there, and he
Speaker 3: tells us to make sure we're wearing all our tactical gear,
Speaker 3: our uniforms. That's kind of weird. That's a business fucking airport.
Speaker 3: Everybody's wearing suits and we show up wearing cameouflage and
Speaker 3: beers and shit. Right, But he had a reason for it, Okay,
Speaker 3: he had a reason for it. And the reason was
Speaker 3: he knew people were watching us, people very high up
Speaker 3: were watching this, okay, and so he wasn't He didn't
Speaker 3: want to hide anything. He didn't want to give the
Speaker 3: illusion that we're not up to something. He wanted to
Speaker 3: make you really clear that yeah, we're doing this and
Speaker 3: I'm not going to hide it. So we show up
Speaker 3: the airport that night, A G five shows up. We
Speaker 3: loaded with food and water, our gear, no weapons, and
Speaker 3: we take off and we fly. I think we did
Speaker 3: our first fuel stop in Hungary and uh, and then
Speaker 3: we continued on, and so the pilots and the flight attendant,
Speaker 3: they had no idea where we're going, right, they got
Speaker 3: their initial grid cornets, and then in flight from Hungary,
Speaker 3: we gave them a change of uh, changed the flight
Speaker 3: plan on said okay, this is your cordinates. This is
Speaker 3: where you put an airplane down, which was in the
Speaker 3: desert on a dirt airstrip, complete remote, not even on
Speaker 3: a map, like, they're right here as an airstrip on
Speaker 3: this great. Can I just put your airplane there? You
Speaker 3: know what I said, just do it. It served me back.
Speaker 3: They even questioned it, man, So they're like, whatever you
Speaker 3: guys want, man, you know, we're doing it. So we
Speaker 3: end up landing in the middle of an airfield. There was,
Speaker 3: if you want to call it was just a strip,
Speaker 3: just a dirt strip. There was nothing there, nothing except
Speaker 3: one sitting there with the ramp down engines running. That
Speaker 3: was the only thing that was sitting there. So we
Speaker 3: landed G five, We unload our shit, We walk over
Speaker 3: to the to the ramp. There's a kernel waiting for
Speaker 3: us as an intel officer and that military yeah Emarati right,
Speaker 3: So he's checking the block as we're getting on. You know,
Speaker 3: we're loading all our shit in the back and then uh,
Speaker 3: we take off and we fly about another four hours
Speaker 3: to uh Djibouti. We land, get off and there's a
Speaker 3: H forty seven or two AGE six helicopters sitting there,
Speaker 3: engines running, waiting for us. So we transload into those things,
Speaker 3: take off FLA about another hour. We end up in
Speaker 3: AID and gaming uh at one of their fobs out there,
Speaker 3: and so we you know, at this point, it's like
Speaker 3: two o'clock in the morning, Uh, two am, And I
Speaker 3: asked the intel officer, I go, hey, where's all our gear,
Speaker 3: all the weapons, all the shit that's supposed to be
Speaker 3: waiting for us, because oh, it's on the way. And
Speaker 3: so they had set up a couple of GP mediums
Speaker 3: in a contonement area within the fob. Nobody knew he
Speaker 3: was there. They intentionally try to make sure we were hidden,
Speaker 3: you know. And so he said'll be here shortly, right,
Speaker 3: So this shows up all these pickups bucks full of garbage,
Speaker 3: literally fucking garbage, you know, like pieces and parts of
Speaker 3: weapons systems, just shit, man, I mean, like, what the
Speaker 3: hell instead of and lonull this crap, you know, And
Speaker 3: we got DSHK with no no tripods we've got you know,
Speaker 3: we've got no magazines with AK forty seven. We've got
Speaker 3: no links for the pkms, you know. And oh, by
Speaker 3: the way, we're supposed to be getting all us milk
Speaker 3: equipment brand new, and they're giving us this thirty year
Speaker 3: old chicom rusty bullshit, right, and uh and I'm I'm
Speaker 3: I'm inventoring it and I'm looking at it, and I realized,
Speaker 3: ain't nothing we can do with this. Nothing functional, nothings operational.
Speaker 3: So I walked up to him, to the colonel. I go, hey, Sir,
Speaker 3: I said, this ain't gonna work. I said, we're missing everything, right,
Speaker 3: I miss all pieces and party. He hated the fact
Speaker 3: that we were coming in the fighters war. He hated
Speaker 3: the fact that they didn't have the capability, right. He
Speaker 3: despised us. And I said, Sir, I said, well, this
Speaker 3: is not you know, that's not going to get it.
Speaker 3: And he looks at me with his hands on his
Speaker 3: hips and go, so, what you're telling me is you
Speaker 3: can't do the mission. I'm like, no, I didn't say
Speaker 3: I couldn't do the mission. I killed the guys in
Speaker 3: a damn spoon, But I can do the mission. I
Speaker 3: would readily like to have some weapons though, you know,
Speaker 3: I can shoot from a distance, you know. And uh,
Speaker 3: and so I gave him a little you know piece
Speaker 3: in my mind. I confronted him and he's like, okay, okay,
Speaker 3: I said, by the way, where's all my American weapons
Speaker 3: that that we're supposed to get? Right? I know what
Speaker 3: he did. He took that money put in his freaking pockets,
Speaker 3: right right, Yeah, that's what he did, right, little son bitch,
Speaker 3: and he went down to the local bazaar and bought
Speaker 3: us all this crap, right, and so anyways, and kind
Speaker 3: of getting the stink guy, he got the message. He
Speaker 3: came and I gave the shortage list. He came back
Speaker 3: with the pieces and parts we were missed, and basically
Speaker 3: we were just cobbling weapons together and you know, improvising everything.
Speaker 3: There were no uniforms, nothing, man. So I'm literally got
Speaker 3: a pair of five elevens on from desert boots. I
Speaker 3: had on a tank top for the gym. I actually
Speaker 3: had weight training gloves. Those are my tactical gloves, you know.
Speaker 3: I was we were making it up as we go, man.
Speaker 3: We're literally like making our own freaking you know best
Speaker 3: and stuff for ambo and stuff and knitting and shit.
Speaker 3: You know, I was like, are you kidding me? So
Speaker 3: we literally improvised everything we had to go do these
Speaker 3: operations because we got no tactical gear. Just they didn't
Speaker 3: give it to us. And I think it was because
Speaker 3: he wanted us to fail what it was right, but
Speaker 3: we were We weren't having that. So the next question was, okay,
Speaker 3: go ahead.
Speaker 2: How old were you at this point?
Speaker 3: Dale? So this was twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, so you
Speaker 3: basically what six years ago, I'm fifty nine. I was
Speaker 3: about fifty three.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, it's nice. It's nice to know though that
Speaker 2: a tiger doesn't change its stripes.
Speaker 1: Now find I find that comforting about you?
Speaker 3: No, man, Actually I would lead the charge. Man. I
Speaker 3: was the goodest shape as anybody there were better, you know,
Speaker 3: And there was a reason I was in charge because
Speaker 3: I learned that lesson later on too. It's like, okay,
Speaker 3: now I know why I'm here. But so anyways, we
Speaker 3: got the target list. It was long, over forty people
Speaker 3: on the list spread across three countries. So we're going
Speaker 3: to do some globe trotting to go take these guys out.
Speaker 3: But they were all hvts. Uh. It was not a
Speaker 3: capture mission. It was a kill mission. That was it.
Speaker 3: These guys had to go. They're all bad guys. They're
Speaker 3: all terrorists. They're all associated or affiliated with al Qaeda,
Speaker 3: particularly al Qaeda Arabic Peninsula, a cap on the Muslim
Speaker 3: brotherhood isis hoo. They's there were a lot of bad
Speaker 3: guys there.
Speaker 2: Which which three countries.
Speaker 3: I can't say the other two countries to say they
Speaker 3: were on the African continent.
Speaker 4: So just so because you're saying like aq Air Penessa
Speaker 4: did the U a E. Which is a fairly I
Speaker 4: mean in terms of Arabic countries, it's like a fairly
Speaker 4: liberal country.
Speaker 2: Did And I don't.
Speaker 4: Mean liberal politically, I just mean liberal in terms of
Speaker 4: like religion whatnot. Do they have a different HVT set
Speaker 4: than say the United States does, and that their concerns
Speaker 4: even though these people are a Q or isis, but
Speaker 4: their concerns are different because these h high value targets,
Speaker 4: the hvts are operating directly against, like the Emirates in
Speaker 4: places like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so exactly, they got their own their their target
Speaker 3: lists maybe different from our target lists, some of them,
Speaker 3: not all of them. And they had their own agenda.
Speaker 3: In fact, the reason we got hired by the m
Speaker 3: O D, because he's the guy that hired us, was
Speaker 3: actually a Palestinian and very prominent guy, not even Immorati,
Speaker 3: but because of a friend of a friend of a friend,
Speaker 3: he got put in the mod position. And so there's
Speaker 3: a there's actually very interesting story about the This guy
Speaker 3: on his name is Muhammad dolland you can look him
Speaker 3: up on the internet. Very interesting guy, very cool guy actually,
Speaker 3: but very interesting and uh, he was not what you
Speaker 3: would expect. But so anyways, you know, the target list
Speaker 3: was long sped over for three countries. We needed to
Speaker 3: get this point. He wanted this one guy in particular
Speaker 3: right off the bat. He's number target number one. And
Speaker 3: we're like, okay, what's the deal with this guy? And
Speaker 3: you know, and they explained to us, you know why
Speaker 3: he's a threat. Okay, he's a he's a shady character.
Speaker 3: He's he was actually from India. He was not Arabic,
Speaker 3: he was India, but he was Muslim, and he was
Speaker 3: a pedophile and he's almost sexual. Yeah, kind of weird
Speaker 3: shit going on too, but he was very well trained
Speaker 3: in trade craft and street craft. So he never put
Speaker 3: his head down the same place twice. He had his
Speaker 3: own security detail. He was being financed, as I understand it,
Speaker 3: by the Muslim Brotherhood and others. He was using al
Speaker 3: Qaeda as an action arm. Just a lot of weird
Speaker 3: things going on, right, So suppose to this guy won
Speaker 3: the Nobel Prize. Blah blah blah. It's all bullshit, okay,
Speaker 3: because one of the things I made sure of that
Speaker 3: I insisted on was any targets that we take out,
Speaker 3: we gotta I gotta be convinced this guy's a bad guy,
Speaker 3: and it's just not some little personal agenda, right right,
Speaker 3: this guy got to be a legit target. So we
Speaker 3: did our due diligence, you know, and we investigated closely.
Speaker 3: It's like, okay, this guy's he's the real deal, so
Speaker 3: we green lighted him. But it was interesting was as
Speaker 3: we're going through this target list we're developing. The first
Speaker 3: target took us a couple of weeks, which actually was
Speaker 3: pretty fast considering we had no human human sources, We
Speaker 3: had nothing to work with. I mean, we're gleaning information
Speaker 3: off the internet, you know, We're bribing them ordies to
Speaker 3: give him some intel. They were trying to what's the
Speaker 3: word I'm looking for. They were trying to remain hands off.
Speaker 3: They want to have plausible time, right yeah, right, And
Speaker 3: so we're like, hey, dude, we're never gonna get this
Speaker 3: done if you're not helping us, you know. So they
Speaker 3: ended up getting some sources. You know, we ended up
Speaker 3: paying a bunch of money. You know, it makes a
Speaker 3: bunch of promises and stuff like that. But in this process,
Speaker 3: we realized on this list was a guy who was
Speaker 3: the uh the mastermind behind the USS coal bombing, and
Speaker 3: he was running a madrasa in Ate and he was
Speaker 3: running a pipeline for ISIS fighters. This guy's a shithead
Speaker 3: still and he was there. We're like, oh, this is
Speaker 3: this is number one. Were going out for that guy first,
Speaker 3: you know, and he's right down the road and uh,
Speaker 3: he's really got no security. His houses across the corners
Speaker 3: catequarter to his madrasa where he's running this pipeline you know,
Speaker 3: for ISIS fighters and stuff. And so we really wanted
Speaker 3: that guy. Okay, he's the USS coal bomb you know,
Speaker 3: mastermarind We were told no, said no, no, you work
Speaker 3: for us. This is number one right here, this guy here,
Speaker 3: you guys can have him later on, Like, fuck man,
Speaker 3: we really wanted this guy. He would have been an
Speaker 3: easy target too, but we didn't get We didn't get
Speaker 3: the shot at him that we wanted. So so long
Speaker 3: story short, my job was besides, you know, the planning execution,
Speaker 3: I realized really quickly that the guys that were with
Speaker 3: me didn't know what the hell they were doing. So
Speaker 3: they had no idea about explosives. They didn't know how
Speaker 3: to use explosives. In fact, I had to show, actually
Speaker 3: I had to show one of the guys was a
Speaker 3: seal literally how to put an a K forty seven
Speaker 3: in action. He had no idea how to load it
Speaker 3: and charge it. I fucked dude, you know. And so
Speaker 3: this was a seal too. But he was a good guy.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna take nothing from him. He just didn't
Speaker 3: know what he was doing. But he turned out to
Speaker 3: be actually one of the better guys out of the
Speaker 3: bunch because his head was the right place. The other turn,
Speaker 3: the other seal was a total turd, though complete turd.
Speaker 3: So now I'm training these guys on how to basically
Speaker 3: set headspace some timing on a fifty caliber machine gun.
Speaker 3: Run became machine guns you know, all the weapon systems
Speaker 3: we have, and then the mission came down. It was like,
Speaker 3: we might have to hit this guy on the way
Speaker 3: to the airport. There's only one flight a day leaving
Speaker 3: Aiden and uh and we had intel that this guy
Speaker 3: might try to get on that airplane on one of
Speaker 3: these particular days, and so what we're gonna do is
Speaker 3: ambush him at the airport. Now, what was interesting is
Speaker 3: the Amorati military occupied the airport, but all the access roads,
Speaker 3: all the gates going into the airport were manned by
Speaker 3: al Qaeda, right, so they control the gates and uh
Speaker 3: so we would literally have to drive to the gates
Speaker 3: way bit mister al Qaeda, you know, and then go
Speaker 3: inside into into the compound. But he had one flight
Speaker 3: a day, and we thought, this guy's gonna get on
Speaker 3: win these flights. So we just started planning. Okay, we
Speaker 3: got to hit him. We picked out the checkpoint location
Speaker 3: where we're gonna we're gonna smack him, and they thought, well,
Speaker 3: what if he doesn't come this way, what if he
Speaker 3: goes that away? And then we thought, okay, let's ambush
Speaker 3: him in the vehicle. He's running a small motorcade. Did
Speaker 3: skin trucks. Then the question was, can we can ride
Speaker 3: a motorcycle. I'll be damn, I'm the only guy can
Speaker 3: ride a motorcycle. I said, are you kidding me? I'm
Speaker 3: the only guy who can ride a god damn motorcycle.
Speaker 3: So now I'm you know, I'm doing it all man,
Speaker 3: I'm like, why are you guys do it here? I said,
Speaker 3: I might as well just do everything, you know, I
Speaker 3: got to ride the motorcycle. I got to build the IEDs,
Speaker 3: you know, I got ag on the back of the motorcycle.
Speaker 3: He's gonna hang my id off the mirror of this
Speaker 3: truck while we're driving, and then vape Peri's vehicle with
Speaker 3: the guy in it. Right, So we got all these
Speaker 3: contingency plans, and I'm starting to realize really quickly that
Speaker 3: I'm the only guy who knows what the hell is
Speaker 3: going on. I'm the only guy who's got the tactical
Speaker 3: experience to execute this thing, you know, and uh, going
Speaker 3: back to Discovery Channel, I am a one man army.
Speaker 3: So so anyways, so we had all these contingency plans, man,
Speaker 3: and there's you know, we would do all kinds of stuff. Man,
Speaker 3: it kept changing every day because the guy never slept
Speaker 3: in the same place twice, so we had to keep
Speaker 3: adjusting the mission profile. Right, Okay, now we're in stead
Speaker 3: of doing motor cycles in the helicopter. Okay, when I
Speaker 3: doing helicopter, now we're walking, you know. And so so
Speaker 3: finally we we finally got some good intel one night,
Speaker 3: and we had about an hour and a half to
Speaker 3: spin up because the guy was staying downtown in an
Speaker 3: office and he wasn't gonna come out. We had eyes
Speaker 3: on he went watching the guy reporting back to us.
Speaker 3: We had a drone helicopter up, you know, video on
Speaker 3: the on the office. We know he was in there.
Speaker 3: He went in there with his bodyguards and a his
Speaker 3: assistant and he had come out. So we were staged
Speaker 3: already ready to go. And uh, that's when we went in.
Speaker 3: And it was only it was actually five of us
Speaker 3: that went in out of the team, and the five
Speaker 3: of us, one of them was an Arab. He's a
Speaker 3: he's one of their majors in the military. And he
Speaker 3: was just the driver. It's like, look, you just drive,
Speaker 3: you don't touch guns, don't play with the fucking radio.
Speaker 3: Just drive. That's all you got to do, right, and
Speaker 3: so and and me and and the A G and
Speaker 3: the two seals were in the back of this up
Speaker 3: armored land cruiser. And the job was to literally pull
Speaker 3: up to the office. I was gonna get out, put
Speaker 3: ied on the building and bring it down on top
Speaker 3: of this guy's head. And so that's was the basic plan.
Speaker 3: And so we roll in. It's I think it's about
Speaker 3: nine thirty at night, very dark, very dark. You had
Speaker 3: people on the streets drinking chi, you know, very narrow roads,
Speaker 3: very congested. And so we go rolling in at about
Speaker 3: three miles an hour. That was top speed, you know.
Speaker 3: I literally got as a car comes to stop. I've
Speaker 3: got out, kind of looking in the window, trying to
Speaker 3: see who's inside the window, and I'm putting a muzzle
Speaker 3: in his face, getting ready to let the air out
Speaker 3: of him. And so finally we get in front of
Speaker 3: the office and like go, doors come open. The first
Speaker 3: guy shot is the driver, the only guy without a weapon.
Speaker 3: He gets shot in the fucking leg, and then the
Speaker 3: rest of us bail out. I grab my charge and
Speaker 3: I run across the street, run in front of the
Speaker 3: office door, and I tried to open the door. First,
Speaker 3: I got my I was going to try to open
Speaker 3: the door, throw a couple of hand grenades in there,
Speaker 3: and they just go in there and shoot everybody. But
Speaker 3: they had locked the door from the inside because the
Speaker 3: bodyguards usually they sat out on front, but at night
Speaker 3: they would roll inside. They lock the doors up, and
Speaker 3: they would sit right behind the doors, and these big
Speaker 3: steel doors, so I couldn't get the door open, so
Speaker 3: I knew they were in there. They locked it, and
Speaker 3: so I thought, okay, thenother choice I have now is
Speaker 3: the place is id that I built in front of
Speaker 3: the door. So the charge was I filled an ammal
Speaker 3: can with C four and I filled it up with
Speaker 3: the armor plating from an M wrap, so basically made
Speaker 3: it the motherwall Claymares and you know, added some extra
Speaker 3: honter for the P factor. So I had a little
Speaker 3: nuclear weapons, but I had it was all directional, and
Speaker 3: so I placed the charge. There's a raging gunfight going
Speaker 3: on right now, and I'm by myself. So for whatever reason,
Speaker 3: I don't know why, but AG ran up the fucking
Speaker 3: road like with his hair on fire, and he's shooting
Speaker 3: it out with people up the street, and he's actually
Speaker 3: supposed to be with me at the door, pulled security
Speaker 3: for I got my hands full. And same thing with
Speaker 3: the other guy, the other steal. He doesn't follow me
Speaker 3: to the door either. He stays at the vehicle. His
Speaker 3: excuse was his weapon kept malfunctioning, but he had a
Speaker 3: spare right next to him. He didn't grab that one,
Speaker 3: so he didn't follow me over. So I'm basically out
Speaker 3: there by myself and went flapping, you know. And anyways,
Speaker 3: I placed the charge. I could not run back to
Speaker 3: my ex field vehicle because you know, the engagement was
Speaker 3: just too close down. I would have run right into
Speaker 3: an ambush. And so I decided, Okay, I'm gonna run
Speaker 3: out the street to another vehicle waiting down the road.
Speaker 3: And but the vehicle that we infilled in was an
Speaker 3: up armored land cruiser by three hundred thousand dollars car
Speaker 3: and so I had already placed an ID in the
Speaker 3: back of it, an incendiary device I built it, put
Speaker 3: it back there, and uh, what I was gonna do
Speaker 3: is running back to my original vehicle. I was going
Speaker 3: to stop, pull the firing system, and we're going to
Speaker 3: destroy that land cruiser. I don't know why they wanted
Speaker 3: to destroy it, but they didn't want to bring it
Speaker 3: out the target our instructors will leave it there and
Speaker 3: destroy it. So that's what they want, that's what they get,
Speaker 3: that's what they're paying for. So anyways, I could not
Speaker 3: get to the charge. So the other seal he knew
Speaker 3: that contiency plan was if I don't make it back,
Speaker 3: he was a run up and fire the system, and
Speaker 3: he did, and it's all on video and the first
Speaker 3: charge goes off and I just wrecks the building apparently
Speaker 3: vaporizes the bodyguards behind the doors. And then and then
Speaker 3: he pulls the other system and then it goes off
Speaker 3: and it literally blew that that car up and literally
Speaker 3: burned it to the ground. I mean it was nothing
Speaker 3: left of it. I was actually in awe that it
Speaker 3: actually worked as well as it did, because it was
Speaker 3: literally improvised explosive. I never built one like this before.
Speaker 3: I didn't know. I just kind of made it up
Speaker 3: as I went. It was kind of cool. I used
Speaker 3: and wait for this, I use net, I use next cafe,
Speaker 3: coffee grounds and a jar, half a half a litter,
Speaker 3: a half a bottle of gasoline, and a quarter block
Speaker 3: and see four cobble this freaking thing together, put it
Speaker 3: over the gas tank and I'll be damned word can
Speaker 3: burn that thing to a christy critter. But so we
Speaker 3: get out, we get out of the mission. And then
Speaker 3: and so all of us were given ranks. So the
Speaker 3: question is, okay, you know, for everybody out there's list
Speaker 3: Oh my god, being a mercenary is illegal. I've heard
Speaker 3: all the bullshit. All right, to shut up, all right,
Speaker 3: let me just explain what happened here. All right. First
Speaker 3: of all, it is not illegal to work as a mercenary. Okay,
Speaker 3: you go to State Department website. You, as an American citizen,
Speaker 3: can work for foreign countries. Okay, a foreign government, as
Speaker 3: long as that government their policies are in alignment with
Speaker 3: US policy. Okay, the Ammiratis are friends of Americans. Okay,
Speaker 3: we're fighting the same global war on terrorism. Boom. All right,
Speaker 3: there it is too. You can join their military and
Speaker 3: guess what they assigned us ranks. They gave us all rank.
Speaker 3: Guess with the leader ranking his currently ranked his guy,
Speaker 3: there was a g made him a full word colonel.
Speaker 3: He's in charge of the entire airport operating base. He's
Speaker 3: in charge of the Arabs, and he just he guys
Speaker 3: when he's Jewish. Yeah, guy's Jewish. He's a Jewish colonel
Speaker 3: in their military giving them orders. So we get back
Speaker 3: to the to the compound and uh you know, fucking
Speaker 3: you're plugging holes and stuff, and and uh Ag comes
Speaker 3: back a few minutes later. He's got a thumb drive.
Speaker 3: He went to the drone pilot. He goes, I'm the colonel,
Speaker 3: give me a copy that that drone village. He got it.
Speaker 3: And the reason he got this for insurance, so it
Speaker 3: could never be said that we're out there's a bunch
Speaker 3: of renegades on our own, right, you know, doing this
Speaker 3: kind of ship. Got proof right here, it came out
Speaker 3: of your helicopter. You know, here's the here's the footage, right,
Speaker 3: So there was a smart move man, you know, Like
Speaker 3: I said, it was insurance. So then what happens is basically, okay,
Speaker 3: we're not sure if we got the target or not.
Speaker 3: Because the next day on the news, the local news,
Speaker 3: his assistant was all wrapped up, you know, and he's
Speaker 3: on the news going hi, and then then a boo,
Speaker 3: you didn't get us, you know, but he's all fucked
Speaker 3: up and the other guys are vaporized, and so we
Speaker 3: don't know what happened to the principal, and we were
Speaker 3: told he did get away and he went back to
Speaker 3: Saudi Arabia, which I kind of doubt that because the
Speaker 3: Saudis won him dead too, So why would you come
Speaker 3: back to Saudi Arabia? Right, So he basically dropped off
Speaker 3: the map. We're not sure what happened. Maybe he went
Speaker 3: into hiding and maybe I scared the shit out, you know,
Speaker 3: and he decided he wants some more part of it.
Speaker 3: I don't know. But so we go back to uh
Speaker 3: We end up in Abu Dhabi, we meet with the
Speaker 3: client and basically we're doing aar after actually, reporter is
Speaker 3: what happened, blah blah blah, and he was happy. And
Speaker 3: so the contract, if I remember right, the contract was
Speaker 3: worth eight hundred and eighty million dollars. Okay. The first
Speaker 3: mission was eight hundred thousand dollars okay. The first mission
Speaker 3: was a vetting mission. If we were successful, we would
Speaker 3: get the rest of the contract. And that's why it
Speaker 3: was important that I was on the first mission, right
Speaker 3: because it had we had had to go right, I
Speaker 3: tell you right now, and and I've been there, they
Speaker 3: wouldn't have fucked up the charges. They didn't know how
Speaker 3: to build them. They wouldn't have been effective at all.
Speaker 3: They wouldn't have known how to use half the weapon system,
Speaker 3: you know, they would have had to go to the
Speaker 3: rie goes, hey, can you show us how to you know,
Speaker 3: with this gun? You know, that's what I'm paying you for.
Speaker 3: So none of that was gonna work. So that's why
Speaker 3: I realized, Okay, there's my value. That's why they had
Speaker 3: to have me, right. So you know, we got you know,
Speaker 3: awarded the rest of the contract, and then uh and
Speaker 3: then we had you know, the follow on fall on
Speaker 3: missions after that. So anyways that happened, and then uh,
Speaker 3: finally I ended up I ended up walking out of
Speaker 3: the desert. Me and one of the seals had enough
Speaker 3: because the one seal that's in charge, I'm not even
Speaker 3: mentioned his name, he's all fucked up, and AG had
Speaker 3: to go do something. I said, no, I ain't staying
Speaker 3: out here. This this is bullshit. There's a lot of
Speaker 3: leadership issues that there were. You know, there were very
Speaker 3: pronounced mans that really wrecked the whole project. Poor leadership,
Speaker 3: zero leadership, And I give an example one day. You know,
Speaker 3: so I'm getting paid all this money as a special
Speaker 3: advisor and I noticed that one of the seals, the bosses,
Speaker 3: is laying in the back of the pickup truck sunbathing
Speaker 3: with no clothes on every day, and he's telling the
Speaker 3: guys to fetch his coffee and do this and do that,
Speaker 3: you know. And these are all grown men right with families,
Speaker 3: they're soldiers, are veterans, and he's telling them go fetch coffee.
Speaker 3: And then I realized he's actually he's hiding cases, a
Speaker 3: red bull in his hoots, fruit, all kinds of fresh
Speaker 3: stuff he's had he's hoarded for himself, not even sharing
Speaker 3: it with the team, right. I found out about that
Speaker 3: when they're exactly go in to get something, and I
Speaker 3: went the fuck. So I walked up to the truck
Speaker 3: one day like back there and I go, hey, man,
Speaker 3: I said, you guys paying me a lot of money
Speaker 3: to be your special advisor, so I'm gonna go ahead
Speaker 3: and earn my money right now and give you some advice.
Speaker 3: And they're looking at me, huh. I got ready for
Speaker 3: this lead by example and they're like, and I go, yeah,
Speaker 3: lead by example. So you think this a lead by example,
Speaker 3: This ain't leading ship. I said, all that red bull
Speaker 3: in your room, that that's not leading by example. I said,
Speaker 3: these guys here, I said, they could give two ships
Speaker 3: about your bottom line. When we're out there in the
Speaker 3: firefight in the street, I said, nobody cares about your
Speaker 3: bottom line, your corporation. All they care about is getting
Speaker 3: back home. And they're gonna remember who took care of
Speaker 3: them and who didn't. I said, And right now, you
Speaker 3: making them fetch coffee while your son bathing and everyone
Speaker 3: they're working their ass off, ain't holding no water. And
Speaker 3: he and you know what, he disagreed with me. I
Speaker 3: got to disagree. It is a business. He's freaking moron,
Speaker 3: I said. You know what, when we get out there,
Speaker 3: I said, when it shit hits the fan, and they
Speaker 3: got to make a decision either save me or save you.
Speaker 3: Uh bye bye. You're not saving your ass. I'm the
Speaker 3: guy taking care of him. I'm the guy running interference
Speaker 3: from constantly, you know. And and that's my job. I said,
Speaker 3: But you're paying the paycheck, man, I said, you need
Speaker 3: to do your part, you know. So there was stuff
Speaker 3: like that that was going on out there that just
Speaker 3: I said, you know, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: be a part of this any more. And I actually
Speaker 3: left ended up planes, trains and automobiles due Dubai Abu Dhabi.
Speaker 3: I think I went back to the US and finally
Speaker 3: went back to Indonesia or Indonesia in the US camera.
Speaker 3: I was all over the day, gone place. But you know,
Speaker 3: I just decided that I'm done with that part of it.
Speaker 1: How many of that list of forty names, like, how
Speaker 1: many hvts down did you get during that contract?
Speaker 3: Because a couple. What's kind of funny is we had
Speaker 3: one guy that was the Isis bomb maker, very prominent guy,
Speaker 3: and he was definitely gonna get it, man, But we
Speaker 3: had it all lined up. I built this freaking mega,
Speaker 3: freaking ID for him special and and he was going
Speaker 3: out every day in the after we were watching with the
Speaker 3: drone and the afternoon he would go out on the
Speaker 3: street and he had a couch on the street right
Speaker 3: and he would sit there and sell drugs cack right.
Speaker 3: Guys would comby, and he was a drug dealer too,
Speaker 3: on top of everything else. And then on the end
Speaker 3: of his compound, he had a garage called the Monster
Speaker 3: Garage and he was building metal doors, but actually he
Speaker 3: was building id's in there. He had all kinds of
Speaker 3: sealing tanks and stuff like that. And so my job
Speaker 3: was going to be to blow up this entire monster
Speaker 3: shop one night, and then we're gonna go up to
Speaker 3: his compound and shoot him in his fricking face. Just
Speaker 3: so we're getting ready to do this, he went out
Speaker 3: to sell some drugs on the street. You know, guy
Speaker 3: drives by and he was with the yim Andy's Resistance
Speaker 3: and boom but kills him right there. Man does a
Speaker 3: job for us, like shit, you know, probably a good
Speaker 3: thing because it would have been really hard to get
Speaker 3: in and get back out of there. They had that
Speaker 3: place locked down pretty good, between the ISIS and al
Speaker 3: Qaeda and the Hooty's. He was pretty secure, and we
Speaker 3: were definitely gonna be you know, we were definitely gonna
Speaker 3: be hanging out there trying to get to him. But uh,
Speaker 3: we made down the list a little bit and not
Speaker 3: very far and before I walked away. I don't know
Speaker 3: what they did after that. I actually know that one
Speaker 3: of the guys they ended up in uh Serbia, and
Speaker 3: one of the guys on the team got rolled up,
Speaker 3: ended up in jail for almost two years on weapons charges.
Speaker 3: They were, you know, kind of doing the same thing.
Speaker 3: The games we're doing. Gay man, I didn't have any
Speaker 3: part of that. Walked away. But he got out of
Speaker 3: jail because somebody murders his attorney at the doorstep in
Speaker 3: the courtyard. So he lost everything that kept tire a
Speaker 3: case against him. And uh, he's actually pretty famous seal.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say this name, but he's a pretty
Speaker 3: famous he's a pretty famous seal. But uh, he fucked up,
Speaker 3: and uh he got he got rolled up, and he
Speaker 3: spent a couple of years in Serbia and jail because
Speaker 3: of that. So anyways, yeah, going back to so you know,
Speaker 3: round and round and round everything starts happening. I ended
Speaker 3: up from there in Los Angeles running. So I was
Speaker 3: protecting a multi millionaire as a starlet in Hollywood. So
Speaker 3: what happened about on the TV show swat right? And
Speaker 3: I was invited to be on that show. So I'm
Speaker 3: out there on the set. I get a call from
Speaker 3: my friend, who's you know, he's a pretty good guy man.
Speaker 3: He's a country western singer. He's like, hey, dude, he
Speaker 3: goes got a poll and he goes, I got a friend.
Speaker 3: She's in big trouble. Some guys stole over a million
Speaker 3: dollars with the diamonds from her. They want to kill
Speaker 3: her because she wants to go to the police. This
Speaker 3: that that she's very wealthy. She's thirty one years old, beautiful,
Speaker 3: never been made, no kid, she's every man's dream, dude,
Speaker 3: I'm telling you right now, right So, and I don't
Speaker 3: even know this. I don't know all this about her yet.
Speaker 3: I just know she's in trouble and I'm the only
Speaker 3: guy he'll recommend. And so apparently she already done the
Speaker 3: Google search and all this shit. He goes call her
Speaker 3: and work out the price. So I call her up, Hey, you,
Speaker 3: this is me. What's going on? What do you need? Okay,
Speaker 3: here's my price? And my price was two thousand dollars
Speaker 3: a day plus pass the costs. I said, you want
Speaker 3: me to protect you two grand plus pay for all
Speaker 3: my expenses. She didn't bat an eye, like really, And
Speaker 3: so I almost kind of said that because I really
Speaker 3: didn't want to do the job, right. I know bodyguard works,
Speaker 3: so I figured if I'm gonna do it, better be
Speaker 3: worth it, right, So I said too grand? And then
Speaker 3: and then she's like, okay, no problem, really, I said, Well,
Speaker 3: I said, you know, I said, I'm on a Hollywood set,
Speaker 3: so I didn't bring any suits and clothes for this either,
Speaker 3: you know, and I really prepared for this. She goes,
Speaker 3: don't worry, you don't need any clothes. Oh okay, little
Speaker 3: did I know she actually met. I didn't need any clothes.
Speaker 3: I just need to show up butt naked. She was
Speaker 3: good with that, right, So she apparently she'd done all
Speaker 3: the Google search, watched all my movies ten times over.
Speaker 3: You know, I didn't know any of this, right, okay,
Speaker 3: all right? And then she asked me what my clothes
Speaker 3: size were shoes. I gave it to her. I ended
Speaker 3: up flying to LA and so I had somebody else
Speaker 3: with me. I had a female with me that I
Speaker 3: had met, young girl, and I go, hey, by the way,
Speaker 3: I got a friend with me, you know. I said,
Speaker 3: you know, can I bring it with me? And she's like, well, yeah,
Speaker 3: of course, you know, bring it with you really? I said, okay, cool,
Speaker 3: I can use it for like count surveillance, surveillance type stuff. Right,
Speaker 3: you can't make the shut up. So I show up
Speaker 3: and at the airport she got a limousine wait for us.
Speaker 3: We go to her where she lived very upscale. The
Speaker 3: apartments in this particular building she was living in. The
Speaker 3: low end was fifteen thousand dollars a month, the high
Speaker 3: end was seventy thousand dollars a month. It was all
Speaker 3: the rich and famous people living in it. Right, So
Speaker 3: we show up. She's waiting for me, all giddy and everything.
Speaker 3: And then and so, you know, we get settled in.
Speaker 3: I got my own apartment. She gives me apartment for
Speaker 3: fifteen thousand dollars a month, fully stocked with everything. Not
Speaker 3: only that, she bought all my clothes for me. I
Speaker 3: didn't know that all my under armor, everything's way laid
Speaker 3: out for me, you know, slippers and hike and shoes
Speaker 3: and the T shirt. I'm like, damn man, you know.
Speaker 3: And uh, And so I said, okay, So I told
Speaker 3: the girl I was with, I said, listen, I'm going
Speaker 3: to be really busy for a while. I said, so,
Speaker 3: you know, she was actually she was from not from
Speaker 3: the United States. And I said, look, I said, since
Speaker 3: you're here, enjoy the vacation. Go hang out in Hollywood.
Speaker 3: Just see the site, you know, don't mind me. I'm
Speaker 3: doing my thing. And so she was good. And so
Speaker 3: I end up, you know, telling the clients to listen.
Speaker 3: I'm here to protect you. I'm going to go over
Speaker 3: some security stuff, protocols, do's and don'ts, patterns of life,
Speaker 3: blah blah blah blah. You know, we even do some
Speaker 3: defensive tactics, you know. And so it goes pretty good, right,
Speaker 3: And little do I know, she's like fall in love
Speaker 3: with me. I didn't know that, and uh, and so
Speaker 3: it got kind of started getting really weird. Like we
Speaker 3: would go out for dinner every night, and she would
Speaker 3: spend fifteen hundred dollars every night on dinner. She ordered
Speaker 3: everything on the menu times ten. She's like, whatever you
Speaker 3: want times ten. You know, I'm like what. And then
Speaker 3: I'd be like, no, I'm gonna go stand over here
Speaker 3: by the door and pulled the case. She said, oh no,
Speaker 3: you're not, just said right here next to me. I said, yes, ma'am,
Speaker 3: you're paying the bills, all right. So it turned into that,
Speaker 3: and uh, and then it turned into like her sitting
Speaker 3: on my lap. He got really unprofessional after a while,
Speaker 3: and I'm trying to keep my professional distance, but she's
Speaker 3: making really really it's really really hard, man, you know.
Speaker 3: And so then I meet all her friends that live
Speaker 3: in this building. They're all billionaires, they're just they're just
Speaker 3: hardcore liberals. Right. So every day she never worked. She
Speaker 3: owned a company now, and then we would drive to
Speaker 3: the company, you know, and she check on things okay,
Speaker 3: and then we go back to her to where she stayed.
Speaker 3: But everybody would hang out on the bottom floor had
Speaker 3: the swimming pool, the bar, and it's the lounge area
Speaker 3: and and that's where we hung out every day, all
Speaker 3: day long for months, and she would order tons of
Speaker 3: food and pizza and this, and then all those guests,
Speaker 3: the residents would come down and we'd all be talking
Speaker 3: and no, they would be talking. I couldn't stand these
Speaker 3: assholes right there. You know. It was always a trump
Speaker 3: fashing session, right, it was always a Trump fashing session.
Speaker 3: And I get the hell out of here. And then
Speaker 3: they're like, you mean you were in the army, you
Speaker 3: were a veteran. Yeah, that's what they look like. Wow,
Speaker 3: you know, it's like I'm like a puppy, Like what
Speaker 3: that's what veterans looking because I've never met one before, right,
Speaker 3: And then they want to ask me some questions about
Speaker 3: the military, and I'd start to answer them and then
Speaker 3: it just cut me off. And then they start talking about.
Speaker 3: There's only four things they could talk about, wine, hotels, food,
Speaker 3: and other women's dress, how they dress. That was it.
Speaker 3: That was the four topics. That's all these people can
Speaker 3: talk about because that's all they know.
Speaker 1: Well, Dale, if any of your attractive billionaire female friends
Speaker 1: are interested in a veteran male content, you feel free
Speaker 1: to pass on my digits.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm here and I'm ready to work. I'm
Speaker 2: ready to work.
Speaker 4: Well, and he lives in Brooklyn and he went to
Speaker 4: Columbia so he can like he can fit into that
Speaker 4: that liberal.
Speaker 2: Well, I got a foot in both worlds.
Speaker 3: I can do it. Yeah, well, I'll tell you what man.
Speaker 3: It was. Uh, it was really frustrating because they couldn't
Speaker 3: talk about anything else because they didn't know anything else.
Speaker 3: I was literally like the first veteran they ever met.
Speaker 3: I might as well been a puppy, you know, Like
Speaker 3: I was like you look, that's what they look like,
Speaker 3: you know, and like what the fuck man? So? And
Speaker 3: like what the fuck man? So? You know, And and
Speaker 3: I would tell my client, you know, like look, you know,
Speaker 3: she would ask me a question from everybody, and I said, look,
Speaker 3: I don't talk politics. I'm not talking religion. Oh no, no,
Speaker 3: it's okay, it's okay. And I remember they asked me
Speaker 3: this question one time about homosexuals in the military, and
Speaker 3: I had an experience back in eighty second when I
Speaker 3: first went into nineteen eighty two with a gay guy
Speaker 3: that it was literally everybody got drunk. One night, he
Speaker 3: went into this one dude's room and gave him a
Speaker 3: blowjob while he was sleeping. The guy wakes up, loses
Speaker 3: his shit, you know, and and uh, we ended up
Speaker 3: with a big battalion, you know, hand to hand combat session.
Speaker 3: Everybody was fighting because we were the recon guys and
Speaker 3: they were you know, now we're the gay recon guys,
Speaker 3: and you know, it just got really crazy, right, And
Speaker 3: so I'm start to explain to her what the problem was,
Speaker 3: you know, with you know, with homosexuals, especially in the
Speaker 3: rank of infantry guys, with something like this happens, and uh,
Speaker 3: and I told her how we were literally combat effected,
Speaker 3: ineffected for over a month, and people would get an
Speaker 3: article fifteen all because of one guy. He literally pulls
Speaker 3: this guy's underwear down while he's sleeping. He's drunk, and
Speaker 3: he wakes up and he's getting a blowjob from this guy,
Speaker 3: and so they were like, oh the all of everybody
Speaker 3: was saying to go, oh, oh my god, that's so uncomfortable.
Speaker 3: I gotta I gotta go. I go. Yeah, you got
Speaker 3: to go because you want to hear the damp tooth.
Speaker 3: You know. It was always that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: These people just started making me sick. And then I
Speaker 3: kept asking my client, I go listen, how much long
Speaker 3: did you need me for? Because you know, we was
Speaker 3: tracking down the jewelry she was. There were some gangs
Speaker 3: out of Chicago. We were involved in this. There's it's
Speaker 3: gonna be when I write the story. It's pretty interesting
Speaker 3: who characters were. Some ofe were very famous, like damn,
Speaker 3: one of them was a billionaire, a British guy from
Speaker 3: London who's a billionaire. He sat on a bunch of boards.
Speaker 3: He was actually banging this hooker, his black chick, high
Speaker 3: end call girl. She she ended up working her way
Speaker 3: into this building, pass the background checks and ended up
Speaker 3: stealing all my client's jewelry on based on a on
Speaker 3: a lie which was tied to this billionaire. Basically, I
Speaker 3: go from being a bodyguard to the fixer, now to
Speaker 3: the investigator. You know. So I'm now sitting you know,
Speaker 3: I'm calling this guy up, going, hey, I need you
Speaker 3: to meet me at Starbucks tomorrow more at zero seven,
Speaker 3: you know, across town in La He meets me and
Speaker 3: I'm waiting for the guy and I'm playing you know,
Speaker 3: Jeff with him, and I'm like, hey, listen, my client's
Speaker 3: really really angry. We know that you know your girlfriend. No, no,
Speaker 3: it's not. I go, yeah, you were banging her, so
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter. She's your girlfriend. She used your name,
Speaker 3: stole on his jewelry, and my client's getting mad because
Speaker 3: she can't get it back. The police won't help her.
Speaker 3: So she's gonna go to La Times and tell the story,
Speaker 3: which is gonna include your name, right, And you're sitting
Speaker 3: on this big ass board right because I already know
Speaker 3: this from talking to some other very wealthy people. I said,
Speaker 3: this ain't gonna go well for you, you know, and
Speaker 3: he was really uncomfortable. I said, now, if I was you,
Speaker 3: what I would do is I would probably just give
Speaker 3: her the money. And so I no on disposed to
Speaker 3: were and be done with this little shit. Because you're married,
Speaker 3: you got two kids in the England, and I had
Speaker 3: I'm really freaking squirm in the seat, you know. And
Speaker 3: so he agreed. He's like, now you know what, you're right,
Speaker 3: You're right, you're right. Let me talk to my lawyer.
Speaker 3: And that's the smart thing to do, sir. So he leaves.
Speaker 3: By the time I got back to my client's apartment,
Speaker 3: he already talked to his lawyer, who talked to her lawyer. Basically,
Speaker 3: they painted this picture that I was a thug, right,
Speaker 3: you take your thuns over back, bah blah blah blah,
Speaker 3: and I go, good, that's exactly what I wanted to think, right,
Speaker 3: So it actually worked, right, And so they wanted to
Speaker 3: settle for two hundred and fift thousand dollars, and I
Speaker 3: knew she was not going to go for that. And
Speaker 3: she's like, no, not no, but hell no. I said,
Speaker 3: you probably ought to take the two fifty because you're
Speaker 3: not going to get the million. I said, this guy
Speaker 3: is going to jump on the next thing smoke and
Speaker 3: he's gonna be gone. You're not going to get him
Speaker 3: that billionaire. He didn't even steal it. But I said,
Speaker 3: you lost all your ability to leverage all this shit,
Speaker 3: you know. And she was stubborn, right, So she was
Speaker 3: worth millions and millions and millions of dollars. But this
Speaker 3: jewelry she had on she was wearing it for a
Speaker 3: jewelery basically at advertising. Anytime the jewelry leaves the jewelry store,
Speaker 3: it's no longer insured off the property. So it was
Speaker 3: stolen off the property of guess who's liable, right client.
Speaker 3: She's got a shit a million dollars for diamonds, So
Speaker 3: that was the problem. She didn't want it, you know.
Speaker 3: And then there's all this other stuff was involved with
Speaker 3: the trust fund and her family and how that's going
Speaker 3: to bode and this and that, you know, and so
Speaker 3: so finally, you know, we get We'll get through most
Speaker 3: of all of this, right, I realized nothing's going to happen.
Speaker 3: There was more. It had to do with Floyd Mayweather,
Speaker 3: had to do with Las Vegas fights and all kinds
Speaker 3: of crazy stuff happened there. This girl shows up in
Speaker 3: Las Vegas wearing all the diamonds. On top of that,
Speaker 3: I've got the FBI engaged and Ceia, I got, I
Speaker 3: got everybody, the Marshalls from California that sheicago to Las
Speaker 3: Vegas engaged to run this chick down man. And she
Speaker 3: was really cagy man really good and and beaten, beating
Speaker 3: the system man, all the traps that laid for she
Speaker 3: circumvented them and got away from it all. But finally
Speaker 3: I just told the client, I said, listen to how
Speaker 3: much long you need me for? You know? And she's
Speaker 3: I need you forever? I know, really how long you need?
Speaker 3: Said no, I need you forever. And I realized, shit,
Speaker 3: you know this is this is happening, man, And they
Speaker 3: got really bizarrow. You know, hey, I need you up
Speaker 3: in my room at two o'clock in the morn. I
Speaker 3: need to talk about something. Yes, ma'am on the way
Speaker 3: where yet I'm right here in the bed, no clothes on.
Speaker 3: I need to sit. I got to talk about something like,
Speaker 3: oh god, no, you know this is not you know,
Speaker 3: I'm thinking I'm not going to get paid if I
Speaker 3: keep doing this, you know. And finally, finally one day
Speaker 3: I just said, listen, I gotta go. I said, I
Speaker 3: got to move on. I said she wanted to get married.
Speaker 3: She fell in love with me. I'll be honest with you,
Speaker 3: any other guy, you know would have been a millionaire overnight.
Speaker 3: And she was really attractive, beautiful man, very smart, very personal.
Speaker 3: She had everything going for everything man, and uh, I
Speaker 3: guess with maturity and with age, you know, you get
Speaker 3: a little bit smarter, and I start thinking with his
Speaker 3: head and not the other head. And I realized that,
Speaker 3: you know, you know, I got other things I want
Speaker 3: to do with my life, and I don't want to
Speaker 3: mooch off of anybody else. I don't want her money.
Speaker 3: I don't want to be around her friends. I told,
Speaker 3: I said, three months will kill each other. I said,
Speaker 3: that's how it is. I said, it's all cool now,
Speaker 3: but pretty much, I said, won't stand me. I won't
Speaker 3: stand you because your friends. I said, So I'm going
Speaker 3: to leave tomorrow morning. And so in the morning, I
Speaker 3: show up to apartment and say goodbye. She got to
Speaker 3: Lemo waiting for me, and she begs me one more time.
Speaker 3: She goes, please go with me to uh She wanted
Speaker 3: me to go to h God damn it as a
Speaker 3: resort on the on the UH out in the desert.
Speaker 3: She goes, go with me, stay with and save me
Speaker 3: for the day and for the night. Tomorrow'll put you
Speaker 3: on a private jet and fly home. And you know,
Speaker 3: in the story, I'm like, for what I said, We're
Speaker 3: gonna go there and we're gonna do it like rabbits.
Speaker 3: And I said, tomorrow morn, I'm still getting on the airplane.
Speaker 3: Nothing's gonna change, you know. And I did. I walked
Speaker 3: away right there and I never looked back. And I
Speaker 3: have no regrets, you know whatsoever. But I got to
Speaker 3: tell you, any other guy would have jumped all over it.
Speaker 3: And maybe ten years ago or fifteen years ago, i'd
Speaker 3: have jumped all over it too, different circumstances. But uh,
Speaker 3: you know, sometimes you realize what's more important in life,
Speaker 3: and it's not always money. It's not other people's money,
Speaker 3: it's not even a beautiful woman. Sometimes you know, your
Speaker 3: own sovereignty, man, your own you know you that is
Speaker 3: all that matters your happiness, know and how you at?
Speaker 4: She that is your you know to you, dle, I
Speaker 4: think what you're telling us, you will never take the
Speaker 4: easy way, regardless.
Speaker 3: Of like you know, I could have and I didn't.
Speaker 3: I could have and I didn't. Man. Oh yeah, and
Speaker 3: she know she gave me so she's like, look, she goes,
Speaker 3: I need to hear another thirty days. Here's my BMW
Speaker 3: seven fifty l I. She gives me a brand new
Speaker 3: BMW seven fifty l I, and she turns around, buys
Speaker 3: a black one. She gives me the white one. She
Speaker 3: knows I liked him, you know, because it's yours, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, man. So she just gives
Speaker 3: me this brand new BMW seven fifty l I. She's
Speaker 3: throwing it all at me, you know, fifteen hundred dollars
Speaker 3: dinner every night, you know, fifteen thousand dollars apartment. You know,
Speaker 3: it was amazing. I'll say this. She was a good girl.
Speaker 3: You know, she just got caught up in something. You know,
Speaker 3: she's lived her whole life a life of you know,
Speaker 3: the rich and famous, right, so she hasn't been exposed
Speaker 3: to streak thugs, you know, she hasn't been supposed to
Speaker 3: this kind of crime. And suddenly she became victimized by it.
Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden, she meets a guy
Speaker 3: like me, you know, that comes along that you know,
Speaker 3: I got this, and she's used to you know, the
Speaker 3: skinny guy jeans, you know, skin gene guy, and you know,
Speaker 3: and and these you know, beta males, and all of
Speaker 3: a sudden I come along and I'm actually not even
Speaker 3: interested other than doing my job. And that probably drove
Speaker 3: even crazier, you know. And so so that's how this
Speaker 3: whole thing started to spinning, spinning out of control. So
Speaker 3: so the bodyguard if I had, that was probably the
Speaker 3: only bodyguard work I actually enjoyed at a lot of
Speaker 3: friends benefits obviously, and it wasn't really like it was
Speaker 3: real and it was serious. I mean, I was I
Speaker 3: was packing, I was brought armor. I had talked to
Speaker 3: people in the Intel services. They all agreed. They said, listen,
Speaker 3: whatever that guy says, believe it, he will do it.
Speaker 3: Guy has no joke. He's a felon many times over.
Speaker 3: He was a gang leader. He got out and became
Speaker 3: a life coach, which was kind of funny, right because
Speaker 3: I'm actually a life coach. Now he's called himself a
Speaker 3: life coach, you know, but he's actually a Thugs tend
Speaker 3: to be a life coach, right, Yeah, Well, but he's dangerous.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's something that isn't really being reported on
Speaker 4: a lot in the news. But like that's a massive
Speaker 4: problem in LA right now, is that wealthy people are
Speaker 4: like they're being targeted coming out of stores like that.
Speaker 4: Like it's it's a serious problem in LA right now.
Speaker 4: That's not really being reported on it.
Speaker 3: Yeah no, and you know I was living with her.
Speaker 3: It was just for her. It was just you know,
Speaker 3: make driving her crazy. Man. She didn't know how to
Speaker 3: how to deal with any of this stuff, you know,
Speaker 3: and she's looking at me like help. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm like ship, you know, what what am I going
Speaker 3: to do? Yeah? I can't even find these guys, you know.
Speaker 3: But the bodyguard work, you know, that was that's another story.
Speaker 3: It's coming out my book detail and uh, I have
Speaker 3: to protect the innocent, of course, you know, I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna mention her name or locations and shing like that.
Speaker 3: But all story, it's gonna be pretty cool. I get
Speaker 3: a lot of guys to contact me that are interested
Speaker 3: in doing bodyguard work, and uh, they want to know
Speaker 3: what it's like to get to that rule, how to
Speaker 3: get to that rule. And it looks sexy, you know,
Speaker 3: would be the bodyguard with Kevin Costner and Whitney Houston.
Speaker 3: I did it, but ten x. But it's it. That's Hollywood, man,
Speaker 3: and that's not the real world. Real world. It sucks. Yeah.
Speaker 3: People are dicks.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean, especially when you're coming from a
Speaker 4: special operations background, like you look down upon your judgment
Speaker 4: isn't trusted. You have to pretend your clients are funny
Speaker 4: when they or not. They're smart when they're dumb.
Speaker 1: I've talked to guys who've done like ep jobs for
Speaker 1: like Gulf State, you know, millionaires kids, billionaires kids like
Speaker 1: horror story I've done.
Speaker 4: I've done that too, and my advice is never never
Speaker 4: seek to be a bodyguard. Seek to be a person
Speaker 4: who needs bodyguards. Like being a bodyguard is like beings,
Speaker 4: like it's like being a bathroom attendant.
Speaker 3: Basically you yeah, you know, I'll tell you a quick story.
Speaker 3: To be in Paris. So I'm with this woman, right,
Speaker 3: her husband's Mexican chick. She's got this. I mean, she's
Speaker 3: just very eccentric. Man. She had a pink pept old bismal,
Speaker 3: pink phantom rolls Royce. Right, this was insane. Hundred carried
Speaker 3: diamond rings coming out of fucking you know, the hood
Speaker 3: ornament and ship, you know, like damn. But we were
Speaker 3: we were in Paris and uh, she and I. So
Speaker 3: she wanted to go shopping. So all her friends were
Speaker 3: gay guys, right, she hardly had I never saw around
Speaker 3: any women. I don't know, maybe the gay guys is
Speaker 3: a threatener. But anyway, so always shopping, you know, and
Speaker 3: they're eating lunch and they're doing this, and I'm standing
Speaker 3: at the bargo. Jesus Christ, can we leave now? And
Speaker 3: so I remember one day we're on the street corner
Speaker 3: and I called it for the limousine and she's facing
Speaker 3: the street, on the sidewalk, facing the street. I'm standing
Speaker 3: behind her about ten feet facing her, watching her back,
Speaker 3: looking for the vehicles coming. And I'm kind of just
Speaker 3: got a, you know, a tactical position there. And I
Speaker 3: noticed this guy's walking past me. He looked like he
Speaker 3: was maybe from Libya or something like that, and he's
Speaker 3: smoking a little cigarette. He's got these little beady eyes,
Speaker 3: like a little rat, you know. He's and he's looking
Speaker 3: back and he's eyeballing her purse. He had this big
Speaker 3: pink Louis Baton purse, right, fick ass thing man. And
Speaker 3: so she's holding and she went a fur. She's got
Speaker 3: diamonds all over. She's worth like ten million dollars to
Speaker 3: standing there, right, And so he's he's sizing her up.
Speaker 3: He's smoking a cigarette. He's walking back. It doesn't see
Speaker 3: me stand in the back, right, and I'm kind of
Speaker 3: standing and watching and he's going back and forth, back
Speaker 3: and forth, and finally I see he finally gets the
Speaker 3: nerve up. He's gonna rob her, right, and he throws
Speaker 3: a cigarette down. He starts to make the move, and
Speaker 3: then I stepped forward and he sees me, and I
Speaker 3: look at him and go right, and he looks at
Speaker 3: me and goes, oh, you know, like this, and he
Speaker 3: walks away, right, And I said, I don't say nothing
Speaker 3: to the clients. She has no idea this is going down, right,
Speaker 3: I just saved her ass, right, and the limousine shows up.
Speaker 3: We get in a vehicle. We drive back to the
Speaker 3: Four Seasons and get out and there's like six French
Speaker 3: dudes standing on the corner. Right. You know, they're all
Speaker 3: staying in the Four Seasons. You know you could tell
Speaker 3: their you know, guys got money and stuff. They're wearing
Speaker 3: their trench coach and they're talking to friend and they're
Speaker 3: talking about where're gonna go party or you know, whatever
Speaker 3: we're gonna do, right, and they're shooting the ship. The
Speaker 3: door opens up. She gets out. She's got legs to kill.
Speaker 3: She's wearing as mini skirt, you know, big as boobs,
Speaker 3: you know, and it's like she gets out and they're like, whoa,
Speaker 3: I did all dialing in on her. And I'm trying
Speaker 3: to get out of the vehicle on the other side.
Speaker 3: And so I'm coming around the corner. They don't see
Speaker 3: me yet and they're looking at her, and I can
Speaker 3: tell they're getting ready to say something to her. Right
Speaker 3: come under her, And here I go again around the
Speaker 3: back of the car. I'm like, don't fucking do it, man,
Speaker 3: you're gonna get me a truck. Don't do it. And
Speaker 3: they look at me like okay, okay, like whoo and
Speaker 3: we go inside and uh she stops me and she goes.
Speaker 3: She goes, did you see those men? Did you see
Speaker 3: the way to looking at me? She's pissing the moan
Speaker 3: of me because they're checking her out. I'm like, yeah, man,
Speaker 3: I said, yeah, but they didn't say nothing to you,
Speaker 3: right right, Yeah, yeah, they didn't do anything right, It
Speaker 3: just it'll checked you out, right. So she goes up
Speaker 3: to the room. I go to my room. Next thing,
Speaker 3: I get a phone call from the old man. Don't
Speaker 3: ever let anybody disrespect my wife like that again. I'm like, what,
Speaker 3: you know, what am I supposed to do? Beat the
Speaker 3: ship out of these dudes and checking her out, you know,
Speaker 3: you know, tell her to wear a burker next time
Speaker 3: I look at her, you know, right right, and uh,
Speaker 3: but it was that, it was always that kind of stuff,
Speaker 3: always that kind of This guy literally expected me to
Speaker 3: just beat the fuck out of people. They're looking at
Speaker 3: his wife, right and uh and and and I was
Speaker 3: actually the smallest of the bodyguard. I was six foot
Speaker 3: about two twenty, you know, pretty yoked man. That was
Speaker 3: about five percent body fat. And uh. And I was
Speaker 3: the smallest guy. All the guys were bigger than me.
Speaker 3: I hired them all. They all big dudes and have
Speaker 3: ball heads. There were tail phones, you know, just different
Speaker 3: colors of different nationalities. Yeah, and uh, but he really
Speaker 3: wanted that. He everywhere we went, he wanted us to
Speaker 3: be flectioning because we weren't. We weren't carrying weapons. And uh.
Speaker 3: And every time we would go to like he would
Speaker 3: his wife always want to go dancing. Right, he's an
Speaker 3: old dude. He didn't want to go dancing, but you know,
Speaker 3: he had to keep her happy. If he wanted to
Speaker 3: get those drawers, he better keep her happy. So we'd
Speaker 3: go to a bar and she'd be out to dance
Speaker 3: floor dancing. I'd have to stand on the dance floor
Speaker 3: next tour while she's freaking dancing keeping all the guys
Speaker 3: away from him because they all want to rub on
Speaker 3: her and shit, you know, and then they go over
Speaker 3: harassed the old man because there's a little Chinese guy,
Speaker 3: you know, and then I got to go over there
Speaker 3: and you know, interfere and get back, you know, you know,
Speaker 3: leave the boss alone. You know. It's like all dying long,
Speaker 3: you know, doing this kind of weird shit. You know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the worst, man, It's it's yeah, it's it's
Speaker 4: really bad. When they want to start ship with other
Speaker 4: people and you have to like interview because they're talking smack.
Speaker 3: She did that all the time, and she would actually
Speaker 3: start trouble with other women and men and look at you, like,
Speaker 3: do something, get in there. Yeah. Yeah. We were driving
Speaker 3: to the office one day and she was in her
Speaker 3: pick phantom, right and she was in front of me.
Speaker 3: I was in the fall of car. The road was
Speaker 3: really congested her. Her office was about one hundred meters
Speaker 3: down to the right. And so being the kind of
Speaker 3: the way she is, right, she just acts like he
Speaker 3: gets out of the car, grabs the purse and starts
Speaker 3: starts walking down the sidewalk, and uh, I'm like fuck,
Speaker 3: So I jump out of the car. I'm trying to
Speaker 3: keep up with her. And there's a guy leaning up
Speaker 3: against a light post right, just kind of lean up
Speaker 3: against looking at his phone, and she walks right up
Speaker 3: to her karate chops his arm check whom he fucking
Speaker 3: falls over, and she just walks right past him and
Speaker 3: he's like looking at her, like what the fuck? And
Speaker 3: I kept walking behind him. Go hey, I said, zy.
Speaker 3: He looked at me like, okay, I take youause. I
Speaker 3: don't want would be out there to the street fighting
Speaker 3: a guy because that's kind of shit she's doing all
Speaker 3: the time. You know. But I've done a lot of
Speaker 3: bodyguard work and it's always uh it's always an adventure,
Speaker 3: you know, and uh it requires wild maturity.
Speaker 2: Can you tell us the Singapore story?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Okay. So I'm writing a bunch of books, right. So,
Speaker 3: as I mentioned earlier, after I wrote American Badass, you know,
Speaker 3: I thought that was it. You know, the sun was
Speaker 3: setting all my my life, you know, all the cool
Speaker 3: stuff was over. But it actually just started. Man. You know,
Speaker 3: we talked about Yaming already la Hong Kong. So then
Speaker 3: what happened was, so here in Indonesia, my wife and
Speaker 3: own I own a security company, as I mentioned earlier,
Speaker 3: providing explosive detector dogs, troll attack dogs for all the
Speaker 3: venues and stuff around here. And uh so I ended
Speaker 3: up going to Singapore to meet another guy friend and
Speaker 3: he goes, hey, I want you to meet this guy.
Speaker 3: So I meet this guy. This guy is a he's
Speaker 3: in the in the shipping business, right, very wealthy guy,
Speaker 3: very wealthy in his forties. You know, he's from India,
Speaker 3: but you'd never know, you would. You would think he's American.
Speaker 3: Everything about him said American, right everything. So he's like, hey, man,
Speaker 3: I got this big ass German shepherd. You know, I
Speaker 3: bought it for my kids, you know. And he goes,
Speaker 3: I like to have him trained, very trained dogs. Would
Speaker 3: you be willing to come over and train my dog
Speaker 3: for me? I said, okay, you're playing. You know you're
Speaker 3: paying on playing. So so I ended up playing back
Speaker 3: and forth, going to Singapore the training guy's damn dog
Speaker 3: for him. He lived in Sintosa Island, which is like Hollywood.
Speaker 3: Guy was very wealthy rolls, Royce, Lamborghinis, you know, married,
Speaker 3: two kids, and uh and the dog, and so he
Speaker 3: wanted me come over and train the dog for him.
Speaker 3: So I'd go over there for like a week at
Speaker 3: a time, hang out, you know, in Singapore, go go
Speaker 3: to his house two three times a day. Spent about
Speaker 3: ten minutes training the dog. And then I was off
Speaker 3: on my own in Singapore, hanging out. How cool is
Speaker 3: that shit? And I was that quite a bit. Kept
Speaker 3: coming back and forth, kept coming back and forth. So
Speaker 3: one day I'm walking with him and his son. His
Speaker 3: son's like nine years old, his daughter's about twelve. His
Speaker 3: wife is Iranian. I thought she was actually Russian, but
Speaker 3: she was turned out she was Iranian. And uh, so
Speaker 3: he and I are walking and we're walking with the dog.
Speaker 3: We're going down to the to the harbor, and he goes, hey, man,
Speaker 3: he goes, you're still doing security stuff. I said yeah.
Speaker 3: He goes, I might need some help. Okay, what you need?
Speaker 3: So he tells me this story. Right, So he's got
Speaker 3: this Instagram account and he's he's he loves watches, right,
Speaker 3: So he's always showing off all his watches on Instagram.
Speaker 3: You know, millions of dollars worth the watches, and so
Speaker 3: one day apparently this hot chick on Instagram, you know,
Speaker 3: starts chatting him up. He starts chatting her up. You know,
Speaker 3: she's in another country, and but nonetheless, you know, they're
Speaker 3: chatting each other up. I'm sure there were dig pics
Speaker 3: and stuff floating around, but uh, it kind of escalated
Speaker 3: in this thing, you know. And so turns out over time,
Speaker 3: this chick on the other end is actually a dude, right,
Speaker 3: which is probably part of a syndicate. And this was
Speaker 3: a setup. And so now they've got you know, all
Speaker 3: these compromising text messages, pictures, things like that, you know,
Speaker 3: and so then they can't reach out to his wife
Speaker 3: and go, hey, you this is us. You're you know,
Speaker 3: your wife's your husband's been flirting with this woman on Instagram,
Speaker 3: you know, getting pretty out of hand. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: We have more information. We got an entire portfolio if
Speaker 3: you want to see it. But you know, you got
Speaker 3: to buy the plane tickets. We got to come to you,
Speaker 3: we got to hand it to you, you got to
Speaker 3: pay us. This is what the cost is going to be. Good.
Speaker 3: So you know, she's thinking, oh, yeah, my rich husband's
Speaker 3: eating on me, you know, and I'm gonna get his ass.
Speaker 3: So so she buys this guy's ticket. One guy. She
Speaker 3: meets him at the airport. The guy goes, gets his
Speaker 3: baggage out a baggage plane. He's got a knife in
Speaker 3: the bag. He pulls a knife out, puts in his pants,
Speaker 3: comes out in baggage plane. He meets her, puts a
Speaker 3: knife in her side, takes her over to ATM machine.
Speaker 3: She cleans out the ATM machine. She's wearing a multimillion
Speaker 3: dollar cardier with all kinds of diamonds on it. He said,
Speaker 3: I'll take that too, and all the money, and i'll
Speaker 3: take your cell phone. Eventually just robs her right there, right, So,
Speaker 3: so he leaves. She thinks he left, but he didn't.
Speaker 3: He actually stayed overnight in a hotel. Well, guess what.
Speaker 3: She didn't put a pass code on her phone, didn't
Speaker 3: put a pass coat on the phone. Come on, really,
Speaker 3: So he goes back to the room. He goes to
Speaker 3: her phone. He's got all the kid's phone numbers, husband's
Speaker 3: phone number, her husband's contacts, phone numbers, client's phone numbers,
Speaker 3: her phone numbers, alternate phone number. He's got everything everything
Speaker 3: on his phone, and he shoots her text messages tomorrow morning,
Speaker 3: meet me at this corner on this ATM machine, don't
Speaker 3: be late and be alone. She shows up again. Here
Speaker 3: we go again, samm ol rodeo like a knife in
Speaker 3: the side. Good ATM machine sets it out, takes forever
Speaker 3: else you can take offer and he disappears. So she
Speaker 3: still hasn't told anybody, you know, And so he goes.
Speaker 3: The other guy goes back. He's actually so he's Iranian,
Speaker 3: but he lives in Turkey, okay, with a network in
Speaker 3: Russia a lot, all right, So and I know all
Speaker 3: this for a reasons. So he goes back. He starts
Speaker 3: messaging the kids, send them video. He's holding a gun,
Speaker 3: he's holding a knife. You know, he's I'm gonna do this,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do that. You know, he's threatening the kids,
Speaker 3: all right, And basically the old man goes what's going on?
Speaker 3: And finally the wife said, hey, this is what happened.
Speaker 3: They go to the police to check the camera. Sure, shit,
Speaker 3: it's all true, right, but they can't get this guy
Speaker 3: because he's in another country. They can't extra guide him
Speaker 3: when he comes back with the rest of the otherwise,
Speaker 3: no show and I said, you know, I said, you
Speaker 3: know what's happened, right, I said, this guy's right in
Speaker 3: your kids writing you. He's gonna call your clients, he's
Speaker 3: got compromising pictures. He said, this is not over. I said,
Speaker 3: he'll never come back because he knows the warn out
Speaker 3: for his arrest. But he's gonna send somebody else in
Speaker 3: his stead. You won't know who it is until it's
Speaker 3: too late. They're gonna threaten you. We're gonna want money,
Speaker 3: and if you don't do it, they're gonna hurt you,
Speaker 3: your kids. And so you fucked. And he knew it, right,
Speaker 3: and I knew it. I knew the play and and
Speaker 3: so he's like, can you help me? Yeah, of course,
Speaker 3: money though, but you know I'm doing this shit for free,
Speaker 3: you know. And uh, And so that turned into okay,
Speaker 3: a phased approach. I gotta be careful what I say.
Speaker 3: But he turned into a phase approach. I contacted a guy.
Speaker 3: He's a German, he's a he's a private investigator, he's
Speaker 3: got a military background. Good dude. I've actually been working
Speaker 3: with him since then on some other projects, and he
Speaker 3: was very well connected, very well connected. Told him what
Speaker 3: the problem was, told him, give Hi an idea who
Speaker 3: the guy was. We had that information off the Instagram.
Speaker 3: We had some other sources I was able to tap into.
Speaker 3: We knew who the guy was, we knew where he was.
Speaker 3: So now what we had to do is tap into
Speaker 3: local resources to P I d M track him down.
Speaker 3: We had him. We had we literally had h cameras
Speaker 3: from streetlight cameras of this guy in his car with
Speaker 3: his Mercedes and license plates to include he's wearing a
Speaker 3: damn watch he stole from the Life Cardier. You got it,
Speaker 3: So you know, it's like then you know, wow. And
Speaker 3: so anyway, so the mission was, all right, first of all,
Speaker 3: proof of concept, I show I'll show you that we
Speaker 3: can find him and we can get to them. But
Speaker 3: then you know, then there's the next part. Parts of
Speaker 3: this thing. You've gotta you gotta pay for everything, you know.
Speaker 3: But the first one just proof that we did it,
Speaker 3: we can do it. Second part is, you know, the
Speaker 3: deployment phase and then the employment phase. Execution I say execution,
Speaker 3: so employment phase, I say, right. So So anyways, that
Speaker 3: was it was a phase approach, right, and so basically
Speaker 3: it required the only way you're going to get to
Speaker 3: this guy is you got to get to this guy
Speaker 3: and and you got to get this guy with all
Speaker 3: the stuff, get it back and make sure that he
Speaker 3: never does anything like this again, because start figuring out
Speaker 3: he belonged to a bigger syndicate. There's a syndicate out there.
Speaker 3: There's lots of not that. This is what they do,
Speaker 3: Internet scams and they don't fuck around, man. They look
Speaker 3: they will fly around the world to complete their mission. Man,
Speaker 3: and they don't care. Man. So anyways, Uh, all that happened, Uh,
Speaker 3: the details will be in the book. I don't want
Speaker 3: to say too much because it could be misinterpreted. What
Speaker 3: actually happened, what didn't happen. Those are the kind of yeah,
Speaker 3: these are the kind of things that have happened to me.
Speaker 3: You know that here I am minded my business train
Speaker 3: of guy's dog. It's Singapore and next thing you know,
Speaker 3: I'm like, what going ahead to head with fucking Iranians.
Speaker 3: So you know, it's like wow. So anyways, uh, yeah,
Speaker 3: it never ends, man, it never ends. You know. I
Speaker 3: mentioned earlier story a story earlier as well that happened
Speaker 3: to Meter and Bali when I came back with the
Speaker 3: with the military and people trying to arrest me, and
Speaker 3: isis there's literally there was an ice to cell here.
Speaker 3: You know, they were I believe they were targeting me
Speaker 3: and my business partner. But uh, it's like it never ends.
Speaker 3: I told you my friend right earlier before this, Shoe Dean,
Speaker 3: he's uh he's making a movie in uh that movie
Speaker 3: a TV series in the Philippines. I think this is
Speaker 3: year number three. Called me five days ago, asked me
Speaker 3: if I could come to the Philippines. One helping with
Speaker 3: security he feels threatening, but two he wants me to
Speaker 3: have a major role on the show with him. And
Speaker 3: and the story is called it's called uh something in Paradise. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's it with Dye or not Christian Kane, I mean
Speaker 3: Christian Kane and uh and so he's a d agent,
Speaker 3: you know, he's medically you know, discharged. He decides I'm
Speaker 3: gonna live in the Philippines and Paradise, just live on
Speaker 3: the beach, chasing, chasing Jason, women, having a good time,
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden he finds himself rolled up
Speaker 3: in this with the mob and the syndic kid and
Speaker 3: all this crime ship. And I'm like, you know what
Speaker 3: that sounds like? My damn story. You know, it's like
Speaker 3: it's it's the same damn story. You know, mind's a
Speaker 3: Bali man is in the Philippines, you know. But I
Speaker 3: don't look for this stuff. It just happens, you know,
Speaker 3: it just shows up. There's another story I didn't I
Speaker 3: didn't really delve into. And I was at Dubai. I
Speaker 3: was approached by an American who lost his visa. So
Speaker 3: what happens like in the Middle East is if you
Speaker 3: owe money to anybody there, banks, the government, you're in
Speaker 3: any kind of debt, what they will do is take
Speaker 3: your visas, strip you of your passport, so you can't
Speaker 3: leave the country. They call a velvet cage. You can't
Speaker 3: do anything. You can't walk, work, you can't leave. You
Speaker 3: get there until you pay your debt back. You know
Speaker 3: how you gonna pay your debt back. If you can't work,
Speaker 3: you can't leave. That's up to you to figure out.
Speaker 3: Otherwise you're not going nowhere. You're going to live in
Speaker 3: a hot box for the rest of your life. That's
Speaker 3: what it takes. So I had a guy approach me, American,
Speaker 3: interesting fella, former infantry guy, the black guy, and he
Speaker 3: just one day just said I'm gonna move to Dubai
Speaker 3: and open up an eighth fat company and a deep
Speaker 3: billing company and eleven Bravo infantry guy. And he does this,
Speaker 3: damn and he was wood than millions, right, and he
Speaker 3: was very successful, and then he got some medical issues
Speaker 3: with one of his kids. He owned the hospital a
Speaker 3: lot of money, and then twenty ten is when you know,
Speaker 3: they had to bust in the Middle East. Everything went
Speaker 3: under financially, right, So suddenly he found himself owing lots
Speaker 3: of money and he ain't got it and they scripped
Speaker 3: him of his passport. His wife and kids got out
Speaker 3: of country. He didn't make it out, so he'd already
Speaker 3: been there for like five years when he met me
Speaker 3: one day in a bar. I was going to get
Speaker 3: something to eat and I walk in. I'm wearing my
Speaker 3: yellow python cowboy boots and he noticed he recognized the boots.
Speaker 3: He recognizes me from social media, comes over to me.
Speaker 3: He goes, hey, are you you know Dale pop Stock
Speaker 3: you know? And I'm always like, why wants to know?
Speaker 3: You know? Okayer folk? Okay friend? So he's like, uh,
Speaker 3: you know, hey, follow you in the boots? Blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: I got this bullshit. You know, got talk. But he
Speaker 3: didn't tell me his dilemma yet, right, and he's we
Speaker 3: exchanged phone numbers. I go back to these A couple
Speaker 3: months later. He texted me and said, hey, man, are
Speaker 3: you coming back I said, yeah, I'm going to be
Speaker 3: back here soon, you know, because I like to meet.
Speaker 3: So we meet and he tells me a story. Right,
Speaker 3: he's been living there for five years, can't get out.
Speaker 3: He's like, can you get me out? So like, get
Speaker 3: me out of country. The problem is all the neighboring
Speaker 3: countries have laws of reciprocs, like cutter. You know, they'll
Speaker 3: turn you back in. Right, you can't get out. So
Speaker 3: there's only really one way out. You can do the
Speaker 3: long walk through the desert. Hope god you never get
Speaker 3: a compromised, but you still got to go somewhere, or
Speaker 3: you go via the ocean somewhere. And so I told
Speaker 3: him I could help him, but you know it's going
Speaker 3: to cost money. You know, I'm doing this on my pocket.
Speaker 3: And so there was a lot of a lot of
Speaker 3: issues with getting a guy out over the ocean. So
Speaker 3: I wouldn't need to be able to take him by
Speaker 3: boat at least five hundred miles. That means I need
Speaker 3: a big goddamn boat. They can hold a lot of fuel, right,
Speaker 3: which costs a lot of money. So it gets worse
Speaker 3: and worse and worse. Right, But I said, so, I
Speaker 3: finally convinced we got any buddies that need to get
Speaker 3: out too. I don't care if four nationals, you know,
Speaker 3: you got four or five guys, you know, guys all
Speaker 3: chip in and it'll be a lot easier to get out.
Speaker 3: I had a pretty good plan too, man, it was
Speaker 3: a really good plan. I had to do a lot
Speaker 3: of secret scroll stuff. Because one thing about the Emirates,
Speaker 3: if you go to Emmra, Dubai or Abadabi anywhere over there,
Speaker 3: you'll never see a cop. You'll never see a cop.
Speaker 3: They don't need cops, you know why, because they got
Speaker 3: one hell of an informant system. And it got CCTV
Speaker 3: camera everywhere, right, everybody is an informant. Everybody gets the
Speaker 3: blue chip if they rack out, and everything's on camera.
Speaker 3: So it's pretty damn secure over there. It's real secure,
Speaker 3: and you know somebody's watching. They're always watching. I show
Speaker 3: up one night, I go to the bar, and I'm
Speaker 3: there with a bunch of chicks and they're you know,
Speaker 3: and I got my book and also sing about thirty
Speaker 3: minutes later, this dude shows up to sit down next
Speaker 3: to me, goes, hey, how are you doing Dale? Who
Speaker 3: the hell are you? He goes, well, you know, I'm
Speaker 3: with the immigration on this and that and that and that.
Speaker 3: He goes, how about tomorrow you and I meet for lunch. Okay,
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, like, hey dude, I'm just trying
Speaker 3: to get some drawers and selling my book. You know.
Speaker 3: It's like, we'll talk tomorrow. Yeah, I'll see you. I'll
Speaker 3: see there. You know. Of course I remember we saw them.
Speaker 3: But they're good, man, They're really good. So everything I
Speaker 3: had to do over there had to be under the radar,
Speaker 3: you know, and I'm always got to be super super careful.
Speaker 3: So anyways, that turned into you know, safe houses, rat lines,
Speaker 3: you got issues with international waters, passports, leaving the leaving
Speaker 3: the docks. You know. I had a good plan, though,
Speaker 3: I had a really good plan. Ball jet skis so
Speaker 3: but anyways, that was another one of my little uh adventures. Again.
Speaker 3: Here I am just minding my business in the bar,
Speaker 3: trying to get a drink. Maybe I was some nookie
Speaker 3: somewhere and this guy wants to freak to help me
Speaker 3: escape from the country. Now I talked to my lawyer.
Speaker 3: I go, hey, I said, what do you think about this?
Speaker 3: He goes, what would you call this if I did this?
Speaker 3: He goes, human trafficking. I said, okay, got it, forget
Speaker 3: I said anything, all right? So I kept them out
Speaker 3: of the conversation after, like, we're not having this conversation
Speaker 3: human trafficking what so? Yeah, but I guess he's right.
Speaker 3: I guess that would be human trafficking.
Speaker 2: Let's let's hit up some user questions here, Dave.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for people who are watching Dale, if they want
Speaker 1: to contact you, uh to procure your service as a
Speaker 1: security consultant or concubine or whatever the case may be.
Speaker 2: I won't say human trafficker. Where where can they find you?
Speaker 3: So I'm mostly on Instagram now Official American Badass Bill Comstock.
Speaker 3: I'm getting really getting far away from Facebook. I'm still
Speaker 3: on there. I got she got banned. I got banned
Speaker 3: from LinkedIn and from Twitter, all right, you know, for
Speaker 3: stating an opinion that of course you know how that
Speaker 3: all works. So they didn't like it because it's me,
Speaker 3: But they actually gave me my Twitter account back yesterday
Speaker 3: and LinkedIn. I'm still working on that, but uh and
Speaker 3: I only use those anyways. That's nother story. So you
Speaker 3: can find me on Twitter now, maybe LinkedIn you try
Speaker 3: to get it read of State today, but for sure Instagram, Facebook.
Speaker 3: I have a website deal comstock dot com. You can
Speaker 3: go through that. You can reach out email me through there.
Speaker 3: My email address is American Badass at del comstock dot com.
Speaker 3: Pretty easily, remember American bad at deal compt dot dot com.
Speaker 3: They can reach me there as well. Those are the
Speaker 3: main ways to catch up.
Speaker 2: I'm not hard to find, and people can like you're
Speaker 2: you'd like you.
Speaker 4: I know you're working on numerous books right now and
Speaker 4: and honestly, thank god you're immortal because you know it'll
Speaker 4: take time to write all those stories. But but for
Speaker 4: your first book, people can they can read American Badass.
Speaker 4: It's available on Amazon, is available anyway if people buy.
Speaker 3: Books Amazon dot com. Yeah, And it's.
Speaker 4: Interesting because you know, you talk about building these improvised
Speaker 4: explosive devices for you know, when you're working with UEE,
Speaker 4: and you know what a lot of people don't understand
Speaker 4: who haven't been in the military. Or haven't been in
Speaker 4: that situation. Is that explosives in breaching is it's it's
Speaker 4: its own very specific field. And when you were in Delta,
Speaker 4: you were the breacher in Panama for the h the
Speaker 4: American hostage Cruise, like you breached the cell there, which
Speaker 4: you know, after years and years of combat in Afghanistan
Speaker 4: and Iraq and whatever like, Panama is such it's such
Speaker 4: a forgotten event, but at a point in time it
Speaker 4: was one of the primary combat events that had happened
Speaker 4: in US, you know, in US history of that time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, and you're right, it's uh, you know, it
Speaker 3: was well executed, well planned, well executed. You know, we
Speaker 3: didn't take any casualties of the of the assault team
Speaker 3: that went in. It was twenty three or twenty six
Speaker 3: of US total. We had to we had w I
Speaker 3: as we got helicopters get shot down, but nobody was
Speaker 3: k I eight and we completed the mission. We we
Speaker 3: you know, we saved Kurt Muse. We plucked them out
Speaker 3: of the jaws of death man literally And it's an
Speaker 3: amazing story when you read it, you know, it's when
Speaker 3: you when you know all the details that went into that,
Speaker 3: things that could have went bad, you know, like my
Speaker 3: little my little faux pa there at the door. You know,
Speaker 3: I fixed it though, and uh he's alive, so it's
Speaker 3: all worked out. But uh yeah, you know, I look
Speaker 3: at you know, I look at that. I looked at
Speaker 3: my whole military career. So you know, I started out
Speaker 3: in the eighty second Airborne Division, Infantry long range scout.
Speaker 3: Four year mark. Had made a decision do I want
Speaker 3: to stay in, do I want to get out? Decide
Speaker 3: to go for the Gusto. I'm going to try out
Speaker 3: for Delta, which was almost statistically impossible for me to succeed,
Speaker 3: but I did at the age of twenty three, youngest
Speaker 3: guy ever I average age thirty three. Next thing you know,
Speaker 3: I'm there ten years. I go to the q COR.
Speaker 3: While I'm there, I've become a light and heavy weapons guy,
Speaker 3: and I'm going to a third special Forces group, became
Speaker 3: a team swartant. I had seen combat every combat evant
Speaker 3: since nineteen age three Grenada right up to the President.
Speaker 3: In fact, I've been to all of them, with the
Speaker 3: exception of Bosnia. That's the only one I didn't participate
Speaker 3: in because I was in that transition retiring out of
Speaker 3: the military. But I don't feel like I really missed
Speaker 3: anything either. But I've been in every conflict since that
Speaker 3: time up to the very president to include Yemen. But
Speaker 3: I went from you know, I thought, okay, going to Delta.
Speaker 3: That's you know, I remember, guys should say that's the
Speaker 3: final frontier in the military. That is the pinnacle. You know,
Speaker 3: everybody look seals, Delta Forces isn't trying to be a seal.
Speaker 3: But we've got seals. They're trying not to be Delta.
Speaker 3: You know, everybody wants to be at the pinnacle. That's Delta.
Speaker 3: And so I thought, you know, man, I reached the
Speaker 3: pinnacle at the age of twenty three. Then I get out,
Speaker 3: and then I get recruited by the Alphabet company, and uh,
Speaker 3: you know, as you know, you know, Dave, it's not
Speaker 3: an easy right to all that. The vetting process, the
Speaker 3: you know, the polygraph testing, the background checks, there's a
Speaker 3: lot that goes into that in a super high attrition rate,
Speaker 3: probably higher than the unit. And so but here we are,
Speaker 3: right made it. And so then I thought, well, doesn't
Speaker 3: I thought Delta was a final frontier. I guess this
Speaker 3: is the final frontier, or is it? And then I
Speaker 3: get approached with this whole other thing that's mercenary work.
Speaker 3: And then I realized, no, that's actually the final frontier
Speaker 3: because now I'm going down range with the same weapons
Speaker 3: al Qaeda has. I'm I'm literally sewing like a grandma.
Speaker 3: I'm sew on my fricking equipment, trying to make shit
Speaker 3: the fight with, right, I'm improvising everything I got, and
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go in a street fight with that bad
Speaker 3: guys no better equipped than they are, right, And the
Speaker 3: only thing that's gonna win the day is my skills
Speaker 3: of self versus their skill set, right. And so to me,
Speaker 3: that was the ultimate. Ultimately, that was being that's the
Speaker 3: ultimate warrior right there, When you can go to combat
Speaker 3: and you don't have big army behind you and support you,
Speaker 3: you don't have close air support, you have a medic
Speaker 3: to drag your ass off a battlefield, it's just you
Speaker 3: and them, and it comes really comes down to your
Speaker 3: your training and your mindset and your warrior spirit. When
Speaker 3: it comes to that and you walk away and you're
Speaker 3: still got your arm's legs, you know it's a win.
Speaker 3: And to me, that was the ultimate. So I feel
Speaker 3: like I've gone the entire gamut, you know, the entire
Speaker 3: spectrum of warfare as a warrior, you know from you know,
Speaker 3: basically iftry guide to mercenary and everything in between. And
Speaker 3: it's never enough. It's never enough. So I sit here
Speaker 3: and I asked myself, if somebody were to come here
Speaker 3: right now and go, have got an opportunity for you
Speaker 3: to be interested? There's a pretty good chance. I'll say
Speaker 3: two things. How much? And when do I leave? Right?
Speaker 3: You know, you know that's the truth. You know, it's
Speaker 3: in you. It's in the blood. Man. Once it's in there,
Speaker 3: it's in there, you can't you know, you always go
Speaker 3: back for another drink at the well until you're falling
Speaker 3: the well and can't get back out. You know.
Speaker 4: It's funny too, And this is getting to the questions
Speaker 4: that people ask. But uh something as somebody said us
Speaker 4: an email earlier, and uh on our patreon and join
Speaker 4: our patreon if you're not a member, why aren't you?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 4: But but somebody's writing d and you know you're talking
Speaker 4: about you know, always reaching that top and then going
Speaker 4: out and you know, sort of being this consummate warrior
Speaker 4: even when you're fine without all the US support, without
Speaker 4: the aircraft without all this. And somebody wrote and said,
Speaker 4: there's an old Team House episode where if you're asked
Speaker 4: the guys, they asked Jack, Jack and I for the
Speaker 4: twelve people they would want on their ODA or their
Speaker 4: team in combat, and Day said he would take himself
Speaker 4: into Elevendale comstocks, you know.
Speaker 3: And I'm better start reproducing them.
Speaker 4: But but you know, like we've known each other for
Speaker 4: a long time and you've always been that, you know,
Speaker 4: you have been that, you know, sort of Costca Eternal Warrior,
Speaker 4: the guy that was that was bred for war. And
Speaker 4: you know, we interview a lot of you know, whenever
Speaker 4: youw people who were like Mac the sag and then
Speaker 4: went to Rhodesia and like that is you. You're the
Speaker 4: modern equivalent.
Speaker 1: Of guys still getting after it as they're pushing seventy.
Speaker 1: You know, we know some of those dudes, you know,
Speaker 1: you know the man bred for War.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you know, you're right, and I do know
Speaker 3: some of those guys you probably know the same guys
Speaker 3: talk about you know that they're actually also my inspiration
Speaker 3: when I see these guys, like Jesus, you're seventy eight
Speaker 3: years old and you're still out there kicking ass. You know,
Speaker 3: what what they have done is they've they've broken paradigms
Speaker 3: for me because we all believed, we all are inculcated
Speaker 3: as mindset. You know, we only have so much, so
Speaker 3: much utility, so much shelf life, you know, when in fact,
Speaker 3: we we can fight. Look, man, some of the best
Speaker 3: warriors are the oldest warriors of the planet. Man. You know,
Speaker 3: you know you got you got everything. You've got experience,
Speaker 3: your arnr. You know, you freaking don't take a lot
Speaker 3: of shit no more. And uh you've gotten past all
Speaker 3: the fear and stuff, you know, And it's always been
Speaker 3: a part of who I am growing up. You know,
Speaker 3: my dad was in the army for twenty years. I
Speaker 3: grew up mostly in Germany, the bases over there, and
Speaker 3: I remember the all we did as the boys. You know,
Speaker 3: we would go out with our baby guns and our
Speaker 3: dad's army equipment and helmets and k pot and low
Speaker 3: bearing equipment and play army. We day, shoot each other's
Speaker 3: BB guns and shit, you know, and uh, hand to
Speaker 3: hand combat. We played war. And that's what I was
Speaker 3: brought up, and it was playing war. I was. I
Speaker 3: was in the go gee already when I was a
Speaker 3: little kid man, you know, and it just seemed like
Speaker 3: a natural fit. Because when my dad retired, you know,
Speaker 3: we re tired out of Fort Wachwok Arizona. We moved
Speaker 3: to San Francisco. We moved to San Francisco. I mean,
Speaker 3: how how cool is that? Right? So, and I go
Speaker 3: to San Francisco and I'm like a fish out of
Speaker 3: water and go, holy shit. You know, these kids are
Speaker 3: not like the people I'm growing up around. You know,
Speaker 3: It's a totally different culture. And I couldn't wait to
Speaker 3: go back. I couldn't wait until I was of age
Speaker 3: and I could, I was able to go to the recruiter,
Speaker 3: and so as soon as I was old enough, I
Speaker 3: went down and signed the papers and put me in coach.
Speaker 3: I couldn't wait to go back because the military culture
Speaker 3: is like no culture in the world. Unfortunately, we live
Speaker 3: in a society now where they're trying to dilute it.
Speaker 3: They're trying to water it down there. It's all this
Speaker 3: political correct this crap is setting in. It's a different army.
Speaker 3: I'm starting to see it, you know, and and uh,
Speaker 3: it's not the one I grew up in. And we'll
Speaker 3: see how that works. Out force in the future. But
Speaker 3: something to it ain't gonna work out well. But that's
Speaker 3: the mindset I was raised in. You know. I was
Speaker 3: always a warrior. I was always a fighter. Even my parents.
Speaker 3: You know, my parents were like turning the other cheek
Speaker 3: and walk away, the like kick his ass. If you'll
Speaker 3: kick his ass, don't come on, I'm gonna kick your ass.
Speaker 3: You know. That was my parents, man. You know. They
Speaker 3: they were warriors too. My mom and my dad pit
Speaker 3: pools and expected me to fight and if you got hurt,
Speaker 3: tough shit to come home or hurt you again.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: So that's how I was raised. And guess what, I'm
Speaker 3: not a bad guy. I have no criminal record, zero
Speaker 3: you can check it out, said nothing. I've never done
Speaker 3: nothing wrong. I don't even have speeding ticket. Okay, I'm
Speaker 3: a good dude. But I do. What I do is
Speaker 3: I do for for righteousness, at least what I think
Speaker 3: is right. You know I stand for I stand to
Speaker 3: fight for the week. I stand for fighting for people
Speaker 3: that are the innercatey. You know, That's what I'm here for.
Speaker 3: And the world needs guys like me, especially our country.
Speaker 3: They need us, you know, they need us. You know
Speaker 3: and whether they like it or not, they need us,
Speaker 3: you know. And so I'm proud of that, and I
Speaker 3: have no regrets. It's made me who I am. I've
Speaker 3: learned a lot of lessons. I'm not perfect, made a
Speaker 3: lot of mistakes, but I continue to grow, continue to evolve.
Speaker 3: And even though I said earlier I'm fifty nine years old,
Speaker 3: I don't feel like I'm fifty nine. I'll stump the
Speaker 3: shit out of any twenty nine year old out there
Speaker 3: man all day long. You know, I can still shoot,
Speaker 3: I can still fight, I can still do everything I
Speaker 3: did before because I choose to think that way, you know,
Speaker 3: I choose to think that way, and I'll always be aware.
Speaker 3: I kind of like paradise right now. But you know what,
Speaker 3: like I said, my walk at that door, go hey, compas,
Speaker 3: I got to deal with it. How much? And when
Speaker 3: do we leave?
Speaker 2: Let's let's roll into some viewer questions.
Speaker 4: So Putty you one, thank you very much. Can you
Speaker 4: talk about the funniest experience unlesson learn from Gary O'Neil.
Speaker 3: Repeat that again, The funnest experience.
Speaker 4: The funniest, Yeah, the funniest experience.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I met Gary O'Neil in nineteen
Speaker 3: eighty two out of Camp McCall. Now, back then he
Speaker 3: was a stud black hair. You know, guy was a
Speaker 3: freaking machine man and he still is. Man. I love
Speaker 3: Gary Man, He's a good dude. Didn't know anything about him.
Speaker 3: My hope for too, my lurk for two. Went out
Speaker 3: to Camp McCall to the steer course and it was cold.
Speaker 3: I remember, it's like November, and we went in a
Speaker 3: bear pit every morning. Do you hand to hand combat? Right?
Speaker 3: So you remember, you know the sawdust pit, you know,
Speaker 3: especially when it's cold and it's wet, it's like freaking concrete. Right. So,
Speaker 3: but we're out there and we're standing in the circle
Speaker 3: in our patrol caps stuff, you know, young guys. And
Speaker 3: then Gary comes out and he's the instructor for the
Speaker 3: combat exportion. We don't know anything about this guy. And
Speaker 3: then we start hearing the stories. Right, guy walked with
Speaker 3: seventy seven ambushes, you know, Vietnam r this that that
Speaker 3: Dad solendid to take out. You know, he's the expert
Speaker 3: with the knife and he's been taking dudes out all
Speaker 3: his life. And I'm like, whoa, what the fuck? Right?
Speaker 3: And then uh, and then he starts going into the
Speaker 3: mind over matter stuff, right, and uh like okay, So
Speaker 3: he has a bucket of water out there, a couple
Speaker 3: bucks of water with a rope tied to it, and
Speaker 3: he's got bicycle spokes, and he starts with taking one
Speaker 3: of the bicycle spokes, and he pulls his skin out
Speaker 3: of his neck and he jabs the bicycle spoke to
Speaker 3: his neck, right, and then he picks up the rope
Speaker 3: in the bucket with water, looks around the thing. He
Speaker 3: lifts it up and his neck's all stretched out and
Speaker 3: he's going around circles to spend the bucket and We're like,
Speaker 3: holy shit, right, and then he stops. He puts spokes
Speaker 3: through his arms, right, and he lifts up the buckets
Speaker 3: again and he's swinging them around right, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: We're like, this is some masochistic shit right here. Right.
Speaker 3: Then he lays down and he has a dude drive
Speaker 3: over with a quarter time jeep over his belly. He
Speaker 3: gets up and goes say, I don't mind, it don't matter, right.
Speaker 3: I was like Jesus Christ, right, because I'm gonna teach
Speaker 3: you how to fight and how to win and how
Speaker 3: to kill, you know, And I was in awe. Man.
Speaker 3: I was like, Wow, Wow, this guy is like a
Speaker 3: real life superhero man, you know, I just saw it.
Speaker 3: And so right then and there, Gary O'Neill became my
Speaker 3: military mentor. For the rest of my life. I have
Speaker 3: modeled myself as a soldier after him. No shit, I
Speaker 3: read the books, right, I'm like, this, dude, that's what
Speaker 3: I want to be. Like, I want to be that guy,
Speaker 3: you know. And so I followed Gary over the years,
Speaker 3: you know, got out, he started bouncing. I've heard all
Speaker 3: the stories. You know, he was hanging around Jim West smoking.
Speaker 3: He's a good friend of mine, you know. And then
Speaker 3: there was a Kachanas and all those guys. You know,
Speaker 3: I heard all the stories and stuff. I thought, man,
Speaker 3: that's why, that's why I want to be a soldier
Speaker 3: to guys like that. That's the kind of I want
Speaker 3: to be that guy. You know. It reminds me when
Speaker 3: I went to Third Group one time to start a
Speaker 3: major fan start Major calls me his office, just met him,
Speaker 3: and he's he's like, Compstock, let me ask you a questions.
Speaker 3: He goes, what's wrong with Rambo? So Rambo, you know,
Speaker 3: helps from ramble. I thought about it. I go I
Speaker 3: don't know nothing, because that's right, there's nothing wrong with Rambo.
Speaker 3: He goes, why can't we feel more like Rambo? And
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, yeah, hard, yeah, like what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: You know, why why are we going to be the
Speaker 3: little gentleman warriors fust ride right and let's let's be
Speaker 3: fucking Rambo. He goes, there's nothing wrong with Rambo. He goes,
Speaker 3: I want you to train all my odias and combat
Speaker 3: hand combat, and uh, I'm right on, so I can.
Speaker 3: So I did you know I started running all the
Speaker 3: hand to hand training for a third Special Force. I
Speaker 3: was running uh eight teams through my training every two weeks,
Speaker 3: another team every morning on my own time, zero five
Speaker 3: hundred to seven hundred in the morning. I was going
Speaker 3: in on my own time training odas and combatis you know,
Speaker 3: wrote the manual all the ship. But so I look
Speaker 3: at Gary O'Neal right, it's always been my mentor. You know,
Speaker 3: we've we've crossed paths here and there, We've done some
Speaker 3: interviews together. And what was interesting is when I wrote
Speaker 3: my book American Badass, I did not know that he
Speaker 3: was actually writing American Warrior at the same time, at
Speaker 3: the same time, American Warrior, American badass. I go, man,
Speaker 3: that is so cool. He's my mentor. He is the
Speaker 3: American Warrior. You know, I'm just a dumb ass badass.
Speaker 3: It'll follow him, you know. And so I'm American Bass,
Speaker 3: the American Warrior. And I just thought that was really
Speaker 3: kind of cool that, uh, you know, my mentor is
Speaker 3: writing the book also, you know. And I'm able to
Speaker 3: write a book because of his mentorship of what he
Speaker 3: showed me in the life. You know, he molded me
Speaker 3: as a warrior, as a soldier. Now, I've got a
Speaker 3: lot of mentors. My father was my mentor, big time,
Speaker 3: my number one mentor, my grandfather, you know, Jim Smoky
Speaker 3: West was actually one of my mentors for martial arts.
Speaker 3: I mean, this guy is this guy taught me how
Speaker 3: to fuck it, how to really fight. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: you guys know, you know we've had him on and yeah,
Speaker 3: you know he's actually one of my mentors as well, right,
Speaker 3: and then Gary O'Neil. So I've got different mentors for
Speaker 3: different parts of my life. But I'm the amalgamation of
Speaker 3: all of those guys, the good in the bad, and
Speaker 3: that's who I am. And so you know hopefully now
Speaker 3: you know, I am now a mentor for many out there.
Speaker 3: I do have a lot of young men that follow me.
Speaker 3: I have a lot of coaching clients that come to
Speaker 3: me and go, hey, I want to learn, man, you know,
Speaker 3: I want to run the mindset, you know. And so
Speaker 3: I teach him how to think now, what to think,
Speaker 3: how to think right? And that's what made all the
Speaker 3: difference is, you know, this way of thinking that Gary has,
Speaker 3: you know, and Jim has, and you know, my father has,
Speaker 3: and my grandfather has. There's certain people in this world
Speaker 3: that have shaped the way I think. And it's because
Speaker 3: of that I am who I am today.
Speaker 4: Uh, Chris Rowlson, thank you very much.
Speaker 3: Dale.
Speaker 4: Do you think you would have whipped ten, says Mancy
Speaker 4: had that fight not been shut down?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Hell yeah all day long. Man. It's funny you
Speaker 3: said that. Bring that up because not too many people
Speaker 3: know about that. So it was nineteen I'm gonna say,
Speaker 3: like nineteen eighty eight, eighty nine, something like that. I
Speaker 3: can't remember now. So I fought the first valley tudo
Speaker 3: match in the United States in Richmond, Virginia. Valley tuto
Speaker 3: is Portuguese. Fore anything goes UFC was just coming out.
Speaker 3: I got you know, I had an opportunity to fight
Speaker 3: this valetudo match, so I went to Richmond. It was
Speaker 3: three five minute rounds. It a sanctioned street fight. There
Speaker 3: were no rules. I broke both my hands, jacked up
Speaker 3: the other guy put him in a sea collar, and
Speaker 3: then I ended up in Richmond, Virginia, and I was
Speaker 3: invited to go up there. I think it was Frank Cucci.
Speaker 3: He had a school up there. He's he hosts this fight.
Speaker 3: I was invited to come up and fight Schimansky, who
Speaker 3: was at the time one of the Blue Team commanders, right,
Speaker 3: and apparently he was the collegiate level wrestler, you know,
Speaker 3: all American bubble law, and uh, they wanted me to
Speaker 3: fight him, so they wanted they come. You know, they
Speaker 3: freight couched it, as you know, Navy Seal versus Delta
Speaker 3: Force Battle of the Elite, right, So so I go
Speaker 3: up there. Actually the unit Sargeant major went up there
Speaker 3: also to watch the fight because we already had some
Speaker 3: beer bets going because up to this point, I don't
Speaker 3: know if you've ever heard of the CT Olympics, but
Speaker 3: it's an event that happens usually like in Austria, they
Speaker 3: invite all the all the SWAT teams counter Terris teams
Speaker 3: to come and compete, right, and uh it's usually seventy
Speaker 3: five hundred teams. We would fill the team every year.
Speaker 3: We actually had to try out for this team as
Speaker 3: five guys and two spares. Uh you know, dev group
Speaker 3: was send their team, and we would beat everybody's ass,
Speaker 3: even the seals in the water. We outswam them, outshot them.
Speaker 3: We always took number of the top five positions, always right.
Speaker 3: And so their starry mayor would have to keep giving
Speaker 3: my Sergeant major a keg of beer. There was always
Speaker 3: a beer bet and some shit like that. So they're like, okay,
Speaker 3: let these two guys fight Battle of the Elite, you know,
Speaker 3: fight for another keg of beer. So I'm gonna go
Speaker 3: win another cake of beer for my star major. And
Speaker 3: so we show up in the morning and uh, you know,
Speaker 3: get all the work up with the doctor the pre checks.
Speaker 3: I think, if I'm good to go, we'll come back
Speaker 3: that night. I'm gonna kick his ass to my agenda.
Speaker 3: And so when I get I show up, they're like, uh, hey,
Speaker 3: the shield got d q's And I'm like, why he
Speaker 3: got herpes. I know what that man he goes well,
Speaker 3: you know if he sports some purpes juice, you know,
Speaker 3: I have all you go blind and sue everybody like
Speaker 3: really what? Okay? So okay? And so they had me
Speaker 3: fight the West Virginia Tough Man champion, and uh I
Speaker 3: made short work of that guy. We can took him
Speaker 3: out pretty fast. But so I never got a chance
Speaker 3: to fight him. But could I have beat him? Hell yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm a fighter, man, I'm pretty damn good. One thing
Speaker 3: I got that most guys don't have is I got heart, man,
Speaker 3: I got big loans, and I got a lot of endurans. Man,
Speaker 3: you beat the shit out of me for hours. Eventually
Speaker 3: you're gonna wear yourself out and that's gonna beat you up.
Speaker 3: You know. But I think I could have beat him,
Speaker 3: No doubt I could have beat him. I know I
Speaker 3: could have beat him. You know, say to you guys,
Speaker 3: he kicked my ass. Man. Only guy kicked my ass
Speaker 3: is Jim West. Yeah. Oh that guy scares me.
Speaker 1: Man, I've been thrown across the room by him a
Speaker 1: few times. I'm kind of test Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean I don't think you know, like I don't
Speaker 4: think that people who you know, who don't know Smokey
Speaker 4: understand just what and not even just like how tough
Speaker 4: he is, but what a skilled fighter he is, Like
Speaker 4: they don't understand what that actually means.
Speaker 1: He's a skilled fighter. I'd go further than that. I've
Speaker 1: told him this before. He is a skilled instructor. He's
Speaker 1: one of the best instructors I've ever met in my life.
Speaker 1: And and that's where he's real. Like, yes, he can
Speaker 1: kick your ass, we all know that, but his real strength,
Speaker 1: I think is an instruction. I mean he's phenomenally good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Man. The first time I went to him,
Speaker 3: so my son, God man, he's thirty four now, but
Speaker 3: when he was four, he was all in the ninja turtles, right,
Speaker 3: he was out doing karate chops in the front yard
Speaker 3: and I said, Jamie said, you want to learn karate
Speaker 3: ninja turtles? Y yea yeah yeah? And so I end
Speaker 3: up taking up to YMCA. Okay, that was a joke,
Speaker 3: rise a daycare and we're not getting nothing out of this.
Speaker 3: I get on the phone with a friend of mine,
Speaker 3: Bart Bart Wiggins, he's friends with Smoky. Oh yeah, I go, dude,
Speaker 3: I said, dude, you got any recommendation because yes, man,
Speaker 3: he goes, you need to go see this guy smoky Dad.
Speaker 3: Just go there right now, right, he said, you won't
Speaker 3: regret it. I said, okay. So I go over there
Speaker 3: with my kid. I walk in and there's all these
Speaker 3: boys out, my son's agent. They got these padded baseball bats,
Speaker 3: and I have to beat the shit out of you.
Speaker 3: Dare going for it, you know, you know, like a
Speaker 3: fucking ball. And so Jim's like, hey, weal come in.
Speaker 3: He goes, hey, go out there and fight, you know,
Speaker 3: And my son goes out there, grabs one. He's getting
Speaker 3: it on, you know, and he's smiling, he's happy. You know.
Speaker 3: My kid comes out and said you like that. He goes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I want to do it. Yeah yeah yeah. So that's
Speaker 3: how we actually got started. And I told my son,
Speaker 3: I said, listen, man, I said, here's the deal. I said,
Speaker 3: if you start, you have to finish. What is finishing
Speaker 3: me means you gotta have a black belt. You gotta
Speaker 3: win a black belt, you can't quit. You're great, yes,
Speaker 3: And I thought, well, why don't I just do it
Speaker 3: with him right somebody here. So that's when I got involved. Right.
Speaker 3: So now it's me and Jane, my son fighting with
Speaker 3: Smokey right, training with him. And there was under a
Speaker 3: girl named Susan may Ran and Julie, I mean Julia Mayran.
Speaker 3: She was pretty bad ass, man, she's she stayed in there.
Speaker 3: She was one of his other black belts and she
Speaker 3: would take a beating and just kept coming back for more. Man,
Speaker 3: she was amazing. But you know, I so we trained
Speaker 3: with Jim and by the time my kid was seven,
Speaker 3: he got his first three black belt to Jim and Jim, Look,
Speaker 3: you don't do karates and kadas and uh forms for
Speaker 3: your black belt, you know. Yeah, yeah, good boy, here's
Speaker 3: your belt. No, what we were doing is we were
Speaker 3: literally going to karate clubs like in Virginia, closing the doors,
Speaker 3: went there with their master and his students that he
Speaker 3: wanted to promote, and we go in the back room.
Speaker 3: It was a sanctioned street fight, me, my son and
Speaker 3: my daughter back there kicking ass, a real street fight. No, barn,
Speaker 3: this is a fight, you know, and whoever wins gets
Speaker 3: their belt, you know. And we did that all day long,
Speaker 3: which was like cool, watching my son who's seven, watching
Speaker 3: my daughter who is nine and a half, they're out
Speaker 3: there freaking throwing stubs, man beating the ship out of
Speaker 3: each other, man freaking bare enough of going around, you know,
Speaker 3: and they're earning their belt. I go, That's what I
Speaker 3: signed up for. And nobody that I know of did
Speaker 3: that except for Jim West. Yeah, you know, And so
Speaker 3: so I learned from him. You know, the guy has
Speaker 3: taught me a lot. Can't take nothing from him. I've
Speaker 3: got a lot of experience, you know, because of him
Speaker 3: in my own experiences now. But yeah, if you want
Speaker 3: to learn how to fight, Jim West is the guy
Speaker 3: to go to.
Speaker 2: Man, let's keep going through these questions here, Alex Ben,
Speaker 2: thank you.
Speaker 3: Dale.
Speaker 4: You started up quite a few successful security companies. What
Speaker 4: are the processes starting a successful security company and keeping
Speaker 4: it good without a race to the bottom outfit.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So, so my first company I started was in
Speaker 3: right after nine to eleven, actually prior to nine eleven,
Speaker 3: seven months fior nine to eleven. I started coming from
Speaker 3: global security consultants. I started getting the nuclear security to
Speaker 3: know anying about nuclear security. Had no idea what I
Speaker 3: was doing, but I went to a security conference for
Speaker 3: the NRC. I said, hey, you guys, it's me I'm
Speaker 3: here for nuclear security. If you ever need some help,
Speaker 3: call me, right. They all were scared of me and
Speaker 3: my partner. We looked scary. We had to ru him
Speaker 3: over to our table with a little shiny things, go hey,
Speaker 3: I give it a little night. Come over here and
Speaker 3: let me talk to you, you know, and do your business.
Speaker 3: Car well. Then nine to eleven happened, and that's when
Speaker 3: this call started. Hey, we need to talk to you,
Speaker 3: blah blah blah. And that's how I got into the business.
Speaker 3: It was very successful. Two thousand and four, we sold
Speaker 3: our company at G four s wacken Hunt. Now what
Speaker 3: does the take So I made a mistake. We've made
Speaker 3: the mistake of selling the company two thousand and four.
Speaker 3: Why because we thought it's going to die off security
Speaker 3: and you know it's always overhead and move man have
Speaker 3: been more wrong. Ever. Triple Canopy was started after my company.
Speaker 3: There's a long story behind that, but basically, when of
Speaker 3: the guys played the owner played rise my website. I
Speaker 3: met the guy I know the guy personally in beast
Speaker 3: Water and all of a sudden, boom, you know, I
Speaker 3: got a competitor. But they still couldn't get in the
Speaker 3: Nwukele industry. Blackwater was competing with my company. They were
Speaker 3: just getting started again. I was keeping them outside of
Speaker 3: the new co security industry. I owned all that and
Speaker 3: then I sold the company to think I got to
Speaker 3: get rid of it, you know, make money, and then
Speaker 3: it never went away. So I ended up reincorporating again
Speaker 3: something called Risk Control Institute. I sold at twenty eleven,
Speaker 3: and then I've been doing that ever since. I you know,
Speaker 3: I've got my company here teaching how comes Indonesia. I
Speaker 3: have a company called Teaching out from Florida. I have
Speaker 3: cheer One Performance Coaching. So these are small enterprises. You know,
Speaker 3: some of them are dealing with security. What's important is
Speaker 3: and this is where everybody makes a mistake, they become discouraged.
Speaker 3: You've got to have a dream. You got to you
Speaker 3: gotta have You have to imagine what you want, what
Speaker 3: it looks like, every every nuance about a company, you
Speaker 3: have to sense it in here and out. And that
Speaker 3: sounds kind of crazy, but it actually ties into what
Speaker 3: I teach, which is autogenic conditioning and future pacing. So
Speaker 3: this company I have here in Volley, I imagined it
Speaker 3: a long time ago and I saw okay, I knew
Speaker 3: I'm the only guy to know anything about training canine,
Speaker 3: the only guy. So suddenly my wife, who doesn't know
Speaker 3: how to turn our computer, didn't know how to turn
Speaker 3: our computer five years ago, now run the MacBook grow
Speaker 3: because I trained her. I taught her how to use
Speaker 3: excels Fleech, she's I taught her about HR. I taught her, Okay,
Speaker 3: we need licensing. Okay, what do we gotta do is
Speaker 3: let her manage that. Oh we need people, Okay, we
Speaker 3: need to train people. We need to find dogs. We
Speaker 3: got to train dogs. So what I did is a
Speaker 3: train the trainer program. I started with my wife. Then
Speaker 3: I hired a field supervisor, and then I hired trainers,
Speaker 3: and I trained the trainers to train the trainers to
Speaker 3: train the handles, train the dogs. And then they started
Speaker 3: to grow in virgin blossom to the point where I
Speaker 3: don't do anything. My wife runs an entire company, every
Speaker 3: aspect of it, licensing, payroll, HR, training, She trains the dog,
Speaker 3: she trains the handlers, She does, you know, a lot
Speaker 3: of the business interactions and networking things like that. So
Speaker 3: it has. But it started with a dream. The dream
Speaker 3: was I would love to live in Bali paradise right
Speaker 3: where I have my own business and I get to
Speaker 3: take my dogs. That if I love my pets and
Speaker 3: make money off of them and to train them, how
Speaker 3: cool is that? It's not really a job. And so
Speaker 3: I imagined everything I have and it became a reality
Speaker 3: because because Albert Einstein said, not just Albert Einstein, but
Speaker 3: Nicola Tesla and many other physicses, success is based on frequency.
Speaker 3: It's not philosophy, it's physics. It's physics. And this is
Speaker 3: the key. It's not about willpower. It has shit to
Speaker 3: do with willpower, has shipped to do with philosophy. It's
Speaker 3: only going to get you so far. Will gets you over.
Speaker 3: The finish line is imagining where you want to be
Speaker 3: and the life that you want to live. I'm actually
Speaker 3: living that life. No, I'm not rich. I don't want
Speaker 3: to be rich. That's not my objective. My objective is
Speaker 3: be happy to experience all the things I want to experience.
Speaker 3: And I live in Bali, and I live in the Philippines,
Speaker 3: and I live in Florida. How cool is that? And
Speaker 3: I make my own hours, and you know I'm coming
Speaker 3: to seven'clock this morning. Do a call with you guys?
Speaker 3: You know, it's the dream, it's the imagination, and you
Speaker 3: it's physics. It's literally physics. It's always physics. That's another area,
Speaker 3: you know. I can't go into that now, but it
Speaker 3: has to do with frequency, it has to do with
Speaker 3: your nervous system, it has to do with metaphysics. There's
Speaker 3: a lot more to go into this, but all my successes,
Speaker 3: everything I've ever done in my life had nothing to
Speaker 3: do with willpower and had everything to do with imagination. Right, So,
Speaker 3: if you want to start a security company, start with
Speaker 3: the dream. What's it going to look like? What do
Speaker 3: you want to look like? What do you want it
Speaker 3: to feel like? How do you want to live it?
Speaker 3: You start with that, then you invoke the next thing
Speaker 3: is called the law of action. You have to do something.
Speaker 3: Start doing the research as I did, Start training the trainers,
Speaker 3: my wife started building it. All of a sudden, I'm
Speaker 3: one man. I'm a one man army, and I got
Speaker 3: sixty five employees, I got forty five trained canines, I
Speaker 3: got a corporation here with a lot of assets and
Speaker 3: kick an ass. Right, it started with it. It started
Speaker 3: with a dream, right, start.
Speaker 4: Alejandra, thank you very much. The same question I asked Paul,
Speaker 4: how what do you think is the best and most
Speaker 4: effective piece of protective equipment and kit a team guy
Speaker 4: can wear? And why is it the mustache? Thanks for
Speaker 4: coming on me.
Speaker 3: This has got thirty three kills. My friend.
Speaker 4: R two D think, uh, did you want to find that?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Actually, actually I do have an answer to that.
Speaker 3: Body armour. All right. So when I was in the unit,
Speaker 3: all we wore was all we wore was body armor,
Speaker 3: was no plates, level three eight, right, and and everybody
Speaker 3: just were the best except for me. I actually wore
Speaker 3: the collar, I wore the plates, and I were the
Speaker 3: growing protect all the time, and people thought I was
Speaker 3: being a pussy go no. And I had a conversation
Speaker 3: with Pete Labor, who was my TRUP commander at the
Speaker 3: time he wrote the book Mission Men, and me, Yeah,
Speaker 3: we're having this conversation about body armor, and his attitude was, look,
Speaker 3: I want to be light, you know, and be able
Speaker 3: to move fast. And I'm like, yeah, I want to
Speaker 3: be able to take a lot of hits and just
Speaker 3: keep on moving nice and slow, methodically and take them
Speaker 3: out right. So it was it was a you know,
Speaker 3: we're opposing you know, uh, you know, posing positions on
Speaker 3: body armor. Most guys didn't want to even have to
Speaker 3: wear it, but they had to wear it, so they
Speaker 3: wore as little as they needed. So then then Mogadishu happens, right,
Speaker 3: and freaking dudes were getting killed. Like the protect helmet, Okay,
Speaker 3: I always wore the kevlar helmet. I got pictures of
Speaker 3: me in the whole unit. Everybody wear a protect except me.
Speaker 3: I'm wearing kevlar, right. Everybody thought I was just a
Speaker 3: pussy til Mogadishu happened. Then they couldn't find enough keV
Speaker 3: of our helmets. They couldn't scrap on enough armor, They
Speaker 3: couldn't reinforce their body armor, they couldn't didn't have it.
Speaker 3: I'm good for me, and I'll fight the war by myself, right,
Speaker 3: And so to me, that's always and I not watched
Speaker 3: it go down in Afghanistan. Right, So guys are going
Speaker 3: out humping the mountains and stuff, and all the carrier
Speaker 3: is a plate carrier, right, They're going right, just the
Speaker 3: plate carrier, and like, why wow, here's the weight, you know.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, dude, everybody, every fob's got a gym.
Speaker 3: Now get your ass in there and go to work people,
Speaker 3: working out until you can carry it all that weight
Speaker 3: and it doesn't affect you. I always wore full armor,
Speaker 3: full plate, full protection, always, always, I don't care how
Speaker 3: high up the mountain I'm going to go. I always
Speaker 3: wore and if and if I was a weakling, I
Speaker 3: make sure I got into that gym and kept walking
Speaker 3: out until I can maintain it. And I always carried armor.
Speaker 3: To me, it's the most important thing you can carry
Speaker 3: beside your weapon, is your armor. I know a lot
Speaker 3: of guys are alive today because they were wearing armor.
Speaker 3: They were taking hits. They were taking hits right into
Speaker 3: the plate, do their best, you know, and they were
Speaker 3: surviving it. So to me, that's the most important equipment
Speaker 3: you could carry. His body armor. Give yourself a chance,
Speaker 3: you know, if it's too heavy, if you're asking the
Speaker 3: gym all right, work out all right, build up to it.
Speaker 3: That body armor eventually will become a part of your body.
Speaker 3: You won't even know you're wearing it. You want, you know,
Speaker 3: it's like my backpack. I carry a backpack around thirty
Speaker 3: five pounds every day. It's my man person to be
Speaker 3: carring it forever, and I get used to it. It
Speaker 3: doesn't even bother me the way it carried all day long.
Speaker 3: You know everybody else would be sniveling about it. But
Speaker 3: you know, if you do something long enough, your body
Speaker 3: will adapt to it. And so my answer is armor,
Speaker 3: where your armor, wear all your armor. Okay, so don't
Speaker 3: take no shortcuts, just like you take a short cut
Speaker 3: with your weapons. Right yeah, yeah, absolutely, dude, plate stop
Speaker 3: stop many otherwise they're not doing any good.
Speaker 4: Uh R two d Thank you very much, Thank you,
Speaker 4: team House, love your work. Another phenomenal interview. Well that's
Speaker 4: because we have a phenomenal guest. Thanks Alejandra. Thanks again.
Speaker 4: With all these things you've done in the private sector,
Speaker 4: how much do you think a giraffe would sell for
Speaker 4: on the open market? When he says over market, I
Speaker 4: think it means black market.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: And he says, hope you can come back, and definitely
Speaker 4: when you're next, when your next book Popstale, we want you.
Speaker 4: The giraffe is a bit of an inside joke. But
Speaker 4: if you had the wage or what a giraffe goes
Speaker 4: for on the black market, what do you think they.
Speaker 3: A giraffe? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you got me on that way.
Speaker 3: I have no If you have.
Speaker 4: What well Dale, Like, what what if you showed up
Speaker 4: to one of her clients and they said, Hey, you know,
Speaker 4: I'm trying to get rid of this illegal zoo. The
Speaker 4: last thing I had. This is just a giraffe full
Speaker 4: got you live in Bali? Would you buy it? How
Speaker 4: much would you pay for a giraffe?
Speaker 3: What am I gonna do with it? I don't. Hey,
Speaker 3: they do have zoos here and they actually do have
Speaker 3: uh right, you and Bali have the Baldi Zoo and
Speaker 3: they have all kinds of elephants and tigers and ship
Speaker 3: like that stuff you would find Indonesia. I don't know,
Speaker 3: like to find a giraffe here, but you know we
Speaker 3: probably add a giraffe a couple of bucks.
Speaker 1: I think I think Uh it was J. T. Patton
Speaker 1: who had that. It was yeah, and I think I
Speaker 1: think he said it was like it was like thirty
Speaker 1: six thousand dollars.
Speaker 4: I can't remember, but yeah, Uhman group of LLC. That's Clint,
Speaker 4: Clint Sportman, thank you very much for the Dominate donation.
Speaker 4: I think that's Clint.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: Did you ever get a chance to meet or train
Speaker 4: with Carlos the story before before where he passed?
Speaker 3: I don't think. Yeah, he was.
Speaker 4: That's where we all met Clint. He was a big
Speaker 4: World War two oss fairbar Psyche.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, we'll have to introduce Dale to Clint the
Speaker 2: next time. Yeah, for sure in the end of the
Speaker 2: City Jungle.
Speaker 4: Jim Scott, thank you very much for your donation. We
Speaker 4: deeply appreciate it.
Speaker 1: And that's that's that's this man, Dale, thank you so
Speaker 1: much for doing this interview, waking up early out.
Speaker 2: There in Indonesia to do this. This has been phenomenal.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: It's really fun to catch up with you again, talk
Speaker 1: some more about some of these wild adventures that you
Speaker 1: get into.
Speaker 2: And I'm looking forward to the books.
Speaker 1: You said that the tentative title for the next book
Speaker 1: about your adventures and misadventage adventures is Running the razors Edge.
Speaker 2: You're still working on it though, working on a few
Speaker 2: other projects as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: When when you when you get some of these to publication,
Speaker 1: let us know, we'd love to talk some more.
Speaker 3: Yeah. What I'm gonna do is I've thought about what
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do is make them all ebooks easier to
Speaker 3: copyright it and send it out right, and then if
Speaker 3: for somebody that wants a hard copy then I have
Speaker 3: a source I can go to that can actually print
Speaker 3: right for someone that wants a hard copy. But I'm
Speaker 3: gonna kind of because I actually sell most of the
Speaker 3: e books on Amazon, even my book, most people just
Speaker 3: were you know, pdf copies of itself, kind of the
Speaker 3: way everybody's going now and day. So but for those
Speaker 3: that wanted for nostalgia purposes or in an autograph, I'll
Speaker 3: make hard copies as well. But it's been on my agenda.
Speaker 3: It just seems like every day I get ready to
Speaker 3: now start writing again, something pops up, you know, another
Speaker 3: to do things. It's all good though, It's all in
Speaker 3: the right direction. But I'll have it soon. I'm excited
Speaker 3: about getting it out. I'm excited about getting all the
Speaker 3: books out. I think that once I'm finished with the details,
Speaker 3: and uh, I think I think some of them have
Speaker 3: potential to maybe be a movie, you know, or could
Speaker 3: could go down that roadie you know, because.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dale, I recently someone was talking about how this
Speaker 1: could make a great movie, and I recently I volunteered
Speaker 1: myself to play a young Dale comstock acid dampit era.
Speaker 4: We need to get him a suit though.
Speaker 1: Back in eighty nine, like Dale was kind of like
Speaker 1: not quite my size, but he wasn't quite Dale size
Speaker 1: today either, So I think like eighty nine eighty nine era,
Speaker 1: I could I could jump into that role Dale.
Speaker 4: So you're doing coaching now for either young young people
Speaker 4: who are are seeking success in whatever arena they or
Speaker 4: even executives. Where can they find you for their coaching
Speaker 4: if they want to hire you?
Speaker 3: I would recommend either go through my website Jill compstock
Speaker 3: dot com or just directly email me American Badass at
Speaker 3: Dill compstock dot com.
Speaker 2: And you do group You do.
Speaker 4: Group coaching like there were if there were a bunch
Speaker 4: of like military hopefuls that wanted to like get together
Speaker 4: a group. Uh do you do things like that?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I do group sessions. It's less expensive as well
Speaker 3: for them, you know, it's more interactive. And then I
Speaker 3: do a lot of mostly private coaching. Most of the
Speaker 3: guys and girls that come to me. My primary demographic
Speaker 3: is men between forty five and fifty nine and women.
Speaker 3: I call them the old man Klan. They're the ones
Speaker 3: that put the kids to college, the wife won't talk
Speaker 3: to him anymore, and they're fat and pregnant and the like.
Speaker 3: You know, I want to I want to recaptu recover
Speaker 3: my life. So I get those guys and then I
Speaker 3: get men between thirty three and thirty seven. Uh, these
Speaker 3: are mostly business entrepreneurs there, some are veterans, some are not.
Speaker 3: They're looking at how it can expand and build my
Speaker 3: business and do more. And then the other group is
Speaker 3: men from nineteen to twenty six. They're either veterans or
Speaker 3: they want to go in the military and they want
Speaker 3: to go into special force, to special operations. And I
Speaker 3: have a I have a unique program just for those
Speaker 3: guys to get them get them ready for to include
Speaker 3: a training program. In fact, I just signed a guy
Speaker 3: up last night. He's actually he's actually a police officer
Speaker 3: SWAT and we want to try out for DEA selection
Speaker 3: and he contacted me, so I'm going to kind of
Speaker 3: put him in that nineteen twenty six year old category
Speaker 3: of training bear for that. So that, Yeah, I do that.
Speaker 3: I do that quite often. I have a pretty full load.
Speaker 3: I can only take some mane people at a time
Speaker 3: because the program is normally eight weeks long. It's two
Speaker 3: hours two plus hours a week on a zoom call
Speaker 3: like this. It's recordable and it goes in stages. But basically,
Speaker 3: what I teach people, really, what I teach people is
Speaker 3: how to think, not what to think. I teach you
Speaker 3: how to think. And that's the key to the thing
Speaker 3: I mentioned in physics earlier. Success is based on physics.
Speaker 3: It is, and I teach the science behind success. It's
Speaker 3: amazing how it works. But I do coach. I've coached millionaires.
Speaker 3: I've coached people who all walks of life. I mean,
Speaker 3: you name it, photographers, police officers, soldiers, you name it.
Speaker 3: I've coached coaching. I've coached international coaches.
Speaker 4: Can Jack sign up to be coached on how to
Speaker 4: hook up with a thirty one year old starlett?
Speaker 2: Put me in the game. Coach, help me in the game.
Speaker 3: It's really easy. Start with shaving the head and doing.
Speaker 2: It the mustache. All right, I'll work on it. I'll
Speaker 2: work on it. It's going anyway, so yeah, I might
Speaker 2: as well just cut to the chase.
Speaker 1: Guys going go check out Dale's book, American Badasslet's out today.
Speaker 2: Please check out our Patreon fown the description if you
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Speaker 1: You get access to these episodes ad free and some
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Speaker 2: It's cool.
Speaker 1: Uh, next week, we're gonna have Jim Morris on the show.
Speaker 1: He served in Special Forces in Vietnam. He is the
Speaker 1: author of war story The Devil's Secret Name, and his
Speaker 1: latest book is called The Dreaming Circus. I'm really excited
Speaker 1: to talk to him. He's a he's a phenomenal dude.
Speaker 1: So we will be back next Friday with Jim Morris.
Speaker 1: Uh Dale again, thank you really appreciate.
Speaker 3: It, man, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: We'll see everyone next Friday, all right,