Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to Pastor Rick's Daily Hope, the
Speaker 1: Bible teaching ministry that's here to encourage and inspire you
Speaker 1: every day. And today we're continuing our series called Awesome Relationships.
Speaker 1: In it, Rick Warren shares practical ways to help you
Speaker 1: take your relationships with family, friends, co workers, and even
Speaker 1: God from ordinary to extraordinary. And this is a series
Speaker 1: you don't want to miss. And now let's go to
Speaker 1: Rick for the final part of a message called fighting
Speaker 1: for an Awesome Marriage.
Speaker 2: We have it in our family what we call the
Speaker 2: five second rule, which is called love my idea for
Speaker 2: five seconds, because when one of us has an idea
Speaker 2: for a change, usually the other one is automatically going
Speaker 2: to why why And so rather than immediately moving in
Speaker 2: the judgmental mode, we say, Okay, I'm gonna share an
Speaker 2: idea for five.
Speaker 3: Seconds that has been revolutionary in our relationship.
Speaker 2: I'll save your marriage.
Speaker 3: Go home.
Speaker 2: That's all you need. So the other thing about change
Speaker 2: is is it does the antidote to boredom. You've got
Speaker 2: to keep your marriage fun and and so you've got
Speaker 2: to work at creativity for the opposite of the boredom.
Speaker 2: I remember one time k knows that I like hot sauces.
Speaker 2: I collect hot sauces. I collect. I have over three
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty different bottles of hot sauce from around
Speaker 2: the world. I don't just believe in hell, I eat it, okay, and.
Speaker 3: Then he burps it, and so what that?
Speaker 2: What'd you say? I didn't know what you said. That
Speaker 2: was just should have that one under there. I just
Speaker 2: that's getting edited before one o'clock. Whatever else. I don't know.
Speaker 2: But one time I just creativity Kane, I like hot sauce.
Speaker 2: She walks in and flops down a couple of airplane tickets.
Speaker 2: I go, what's that? She goes, I'm taking you this
Speaker 2: weekend to Albuquerque. I said, what in the world did
Speaker 2: an Albuquerque said? The International Hot Sauce Convention. What a woman.
Speaker 2: I want to tell you that is a godly woman
Speaker 2: right there.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, okay, I'll tell you later what I said.
Speaker 3: In this season of change, then adjust. But then sometimes
Speaker 3: change is negative because you look at each other and
Speaker 3: you go, you're never gonna change, are you? You know,
Speaker 3: you get in those stuck places and you realize you
Speaker 3: both you're so different. When Rick has said through these
Speaker 3: years that we are different. It's not just to make
Speaker 3: this nice little point in a marriage sermon. Now we
Speaker 3: are so so if there's a category of so different,
Speaker 3: we fall into that so different category. We are over
Speaker 3: the top on that. I mean, he is playful, I'm serious.
Speaker 3: He's an extrovert. I'm an introvert. He is tig or. Man,
Speaker 3: I'm having trouble in this service talking. He's tigger. I'm
Speaker 3: e or you hate it. Yeah, He's impulsive and spontaneous.
Speaker 3: I'm a planner. He's a big picture. I'm detail. I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, I see these all these services. I keep
Speaker 3: seeing these little things on the carpet, little threads, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, I got to get those threads off the
Speaker 3: carpet because I'm so detailed. Right, Yeah, he's like, what
Speaker 3: are you talking about it? I don't even see what
Speaker 3: you mean. So, and it's funny until you get down
Speaker 3: to real life situations where you see things differently, and
Speaker 3: you've got to come up with some sort of a
Speaker 3: how do you get along when you're stop?
Speaker 2: I mean we've been married now a long time.
Speaker 3: How many years?
Speaker 2: Thirty nine years? I mean just this week we were
Speaker 2: looking at something we were changing in our house and
Speaker 2: she goes, I think that's too big, and I'm going
Speaker 2: I think that's too small. I think that's too well,
Speaker 2: look at it from this angle. We walk over here
Speaker 2: from the living room, look at it from this angle,
Speaker 2: and she goes, well, we just see things differently. I go, well,
Speaker 2: that's never happened. And there are things is going to
Speaker 2: be constantly changing in your marriage, but there's some stuff
Speaker 2: that's not going to change. What's not going to change
Speaker 2: is your personality. So you got to decide are you
Speaker 2: just going to accept that and love it? Are you
Speaker 2: do you have to force them to change before you
Speaker 2: love them.
Speaker 3: I will confess that I have opted for the force
Speaker 3: him to change amen approach many times. It's the honest truth.
Speaker 3: I'm being really real with you. I can just give
Speaker 3: you an example for years. I mean well, first of all,
Speaker 3: he grew up in the country and they never locked doors.
Speaker 3: And I grew up in the city.
Speaker 2: A better man an outside door and I never even
Speaker 2: closed it. Yeah, I'd sleep with open it.
Speaker 3: I'm aware of that, yes, so, and that that thought
Speaker 3: always bothered in our marriage because we would get into
Speaker 3: bed at night and I would say to him, as
Speaker 3: we're drifting off to sleep, Did you lock the doors?
Speaker 3: And he would say, no, why are you asking me
Speaker 3: right now? Why didn't you ask me fifteen minutes ago?
Speaker 3: And I'm like, because we weren't in bed fifteen minutes ago.
Speaker 3: You're supposed to lock the door before we go to bed.
Speaker 3: And so he would sometimes in a very grumpy, very
Speaker 3: unhappy way, trudge down the stairs.
Speaker 2: You wouldn't wait till my head was on the pillow.
Speaker 3: But it wasn't like come on, but it wasn't like
Speaker 3: you didn't know.
Speaker 2: Women. Here's the word, don't start a conversation when your
Speaker 2: husband puts his head down from about the foremost feared
Speaker 2: word by any husband when he puts his head down.
Speaker 2: There we need to talk.
Speaker 3: No, you just need I don't want to talk. I
Speaker 3: just wanted to know if you lock the door?
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3: Okay? So how many nights was there the obligation to
Speaker 3: lock the door? Well, only three hundred and sixty five,
Speaker 3: I mean you know. So we would have this ongoing struggle,
Speaker 3: and as you could see, it didn't ever go very well.
Speaker 3: So sometimes he would go down and lock the doors
Speaker 3: and come back up and be irritated with me, and
Speaker 3: I'd be irritated because I had to ask him. And
Speaker 3: then sometimes I would say, did you lock the doors?
Speaker 3: And he would say yes, and I would think to myself,
Speaker 3: I bet he didn't, And so I would go downstairs
Speaker 3: and I would find two of the three.
Speaker 2: That's pretty good, do you think? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Okay, So I can't tell you the years it took
Speaker 3: for us to come up with the solution to that problem.
Speaker 3: The solution is I locked the doors.
Speaker 2: Why didn't we start that earlier? Okay?
Speaker 3: Now, because he's not gonna change, and it was silly
Speaker 3: for us to continue this habit. But we got locked
Speaker 3: into this habit. You are laughing, but you have those
Speaker 3: same stuck places in your you are you have those
Speaker 3: same stuck places. If I had simply acknowledged the fact
Speaker 3: that our backgrounds are different, he was never going to
Speaker 3: lock the doors the way I wanted them locked. And
Speaker 3: if I just lock the doors, then he goes to
Speaker 3: bed happy. I go to bed happy. Everything's great acceptance,
Speaker 3: I'm telling you right now, acceptance of the parts of
Speaker 3: your mate that are not going to change. Stop fighting
Speaker 3: about it and just accept it. You both be happy.
Speaker 2: Okay. Let me give you a couple advice from things
Speaker 2: we've learned. Number one is stop using incompatibility as an
Speaker 2: excuse for selfishness. People say, well, we're just incompatible. I
Speaker 2: don't even believe in that term. It's a term made
Speaker 2: up by divorce attorneys to justify divorce. The fact is
Speaker 2: you're not compatible with anybody. There's nobody who's completely compatible
Speaker 2: with you. So no matter who you married in the world,
Speaker 2: you're incompatible. Incompatible is not an excuse for divorce because
Speaker 2: you're not compatible with anybody. You're all, You're unique. And
Speaker 2: there's another word for incompatibility, selfishness. I want what I want,
Speaker 2: you want what you want, and then our heads. But
Speaker 2: then another thing is I want you to talk about this.
Speaker 2: You've got to celebrate the real, not the ideal. Yes,
Speaker 2: because this was a big issue.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I Yeah, we made a couple of married
Speaker 3: problems right off the bat. First of all, we didn't
Speaker 3: know each other when we got married, which is a
Speaker 3: whole other story. That was a big problem. Yeah, well
Speaker 3: you knew that was all you really needed to know.
Speaker 3: So no, so really we didn't we didn't know each other. Stop,
Speaker 3: I'm trying to talk. We don't advise not knowing the
Speaker 3: other person. That was a mistake. Second, I read too
Speaker 3: many romance novels as a teenager, and I decided I
Speaker 3: had it in my head of what you know, a
Speaker 3: husband was going to be like, and it was completely unrealistic,
Speaker 3: and it was I set him up for failure because
Speaker 3: I was looking for some you know, dime store novel
Speaker 3: character instead of a real person who was and it
Speaker 3: got in the way of me loving and accepting the
Speaker 3: real person because I had a very stupid set of
Speaker 3: things in my head of what cut through here?
Speaker 2: She thought she was getting fabio, she got FLABBYO. You
Speaker 2: might write this one down. A great marriage is the
Speaker 2: union of two great forgivers.
Speaker 3: And marriages that are happy are couples who have decided
Speaker 3: to be happily incompatible.
Speaker 2: Happily incompatible. In fact, every couple has a has a song,
Speaker 2: and our song is Huey lewis stuck with you, Happy
Speaker 2: to be stuck with you? And and if you know
Speaker 2: the words.
Speaker 3: That songs and you know we thought about giving up,
Speaker 3: you know we always.
Speaker 2: But we got the same address. Let's just stay again, James.
Speaker 3: Okay, so season spring busy, you know what can you
Speaker 3: do to to create oneness and maintain oneness summer, bank
Speaker 3: on those good times and invest for the harder times.
Speaker 3: When it's fall and there's change, you're going to have
Speaker 3: to jest when it's good things and accept when there's
Speaker 3: stuff that isn't going to budge. And then it leads
Speaker 3: us to winter. And if you stay married long enough,
Speaker 3: every couple is going to go through winter. It's that
Speaker 3: time when when the bottom falls out. It's when there's
Speaker 3: deep loss and deep grief. For us. You know our situation.
Speaker 3: I've had cancer twice and then we lost our son,
Speaker 3: our son, Matthew. And it's when your marriage takes a
Speaker 3: hit that sometimes you think we're not going to be
Speaker 3: able to get through this. It could be an affair,
Speaker 3: there could be a betrayal, there could be a child
Speaker 3: that ends up in jail. There can be mental illness, bankruptcy,
Speaker 3: I mean, cancer, any crisis. Most of you are not
Speaker 3: going to lose a child the way that we have,
Speaker 3: and I'm grateful for you that that's not going to happen.
Speaker 3: But you're still going to have to decide how do
Speaker 3: we face it when our marriage goes through that winter
Speaker 3: time when things are just breaking your heart? How do
Speaker 3: you survive and thrive in grief and in loss.
Speaker 2: Well a couple things. What we've learned, a crisis cannot
Speaker 2: destroy your marriage. What destroys it is your response to
Speaker 2: that crisis. Okay, that matter what the crisis is, The
Speaker 2: crisis cannot destroy your marriage. What will destroy is the
Speaker 2: way you choose to respond to it. And one of
Speaker 2: the ways you must choose to respond to it is
Speaker 2: this we've learned. Don't judge your mate's feelings or try
Speaker 2: to talk them out of their feelings in the crisis.
Speaker 2: Why do we do this? You know, when somebody has
Speaker 2: a feeling and you don't have it, you immediately start
Speaker 2: trying to talk them out of it. That's dumb. Feelings
Speaker 2: just a feeling. A feeling is neither right nor wrong.
Speaker 2: It's just a feeling. And so instead of me trying
Speaker 2: to when somebody's afraid, don't try to talk them out
Speaker 2: of their fear. Just sympathize with their fear. When somebody's sad,
Speaker 2: don't try to talk about other sadness. Just sympathize with
Speaker 2: their sadness. Don't try to talk them out of their feelings. See,
Speaker 2: my fears are perfectly rational, Yours are stupid, and my
Speaker 2: feelings are always justifiable. Yours make no sense. And one
Speaker 2: of the things when Matthew died is I made the
Speaker 2: decision and Ky did too, that whatever we were feeling,
Speaker 2: we were just going to be there for each other.
Speaker 2: And if the feeling was anger, we share that anger.
Speaker 2: If the feeling was depression, we share that depression. It
Speaker 2: was grief, we share the grief. We don't try to
Speaker 2: talk each other out of it. We just feel it.
Speaker 2: And even when you don't feel it, well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because sometimes when you're going through a winter season,
Speaker 3: when you're experiencing loss, you don't always feel the exact
Speaker 3: same time at the same moment. And what Rick saying
Speaker 3: is that we just again decided to be intentional in
Speaker 3: staying connected. Because Matthew was ill for such a long time,
Speaker 3: mentally ill for such a long time, and his mental
Speaker 3: illness just kept getting worse. There were periods of time
Speaker 3: when I would look ahead to the possibility that he
Speaker 3: might take his life and would become very fearful that
Speaker 3: if he were to die, that the conflict that he
Speaker 3: and I already had over had a parent how to
Speaker 3: relate to him, Because I would think we should do this,
Speaker 3: He would think we should do this, and we would
Speaker 3: have different I just thought that the conflict was so
Speaker 3: painful at times that if I you lost that in grief,
Speaker 3: we would have that same conflict, and that maybe yeah,
Speaker 3: but that we would lose the intimacy, we would lose
Speaker 3: the closeness in our relationship. But I can tell you,
Speaker 3: really in complete honesty that our relationship is closer than
Speaker 3: it's ever been, and it's largely because of the decisions
Speaker 3: that we have made of how to face it as
Speaker 3: a couple. In staying connected, physical touch is a really
Speaker 3: important part when you're going through winter time, because for me,
Speaker 3: I tend to withdraw when I am feeling sad or
Speaker 3: feeling lost or angry. I tend to withdraw on a
Speaker 3: shell and not receive comfort let myself be comforted. Me.
Speaker 3: I've had to decide to reach out to Rick, to
Speaker 3: hold his hand, to touch his arm, to let him
Speaker 3: put his arm around me when I'm feeling really sad,
Speaker 3: to not try to walk through it alone, but to
Speaker 3: do that together.
Speaker 2: You know, one of the things Case said is that
Speaker 2: she is wondering, is what's it going to do to
Speaker 2: our relationship. It wasn't a fear of divorce because one
Speaker 2: of the things you have to do knowing you're going
Speaker 2: to have prices in your life. If you're married for
Speaker 2: a lifetime, you're going to have a lot of crises
Speaker 2: in your life. You're going to have a lot. What
Speaker 2: you have to do is what we did when we
Speaker 2: got married. We closed the escape patch to our marriage,
Speaker 2: like on a submarine, closed it, locked it, double locked it,
Speaker 2: and threw the key away. And I can honestly say
Speaker 2: in that all the crises, all the changes, divorce has
Speaker 2: never been an option. People said, have you ever considered divorce? Okay, no,
Speaker 2: because God says I hate divorce.
Speaker 3: But I have to say that there have been times
Speaker 3: when when it has felt our relationship has felt so
Speaker 3: fractured and so irretrievably broken, things that we'd said to
Speaker 3: each other, things that we had felt, the ways that
Speaker 3: we had treated each other. I'm just being really honest
Speaker 3: with you that there have been times that divorce was
Speaker 3: attractive in the sense of I'm not sure I want
Speaker 3: to even breathe the same air you're breathing right.
Speaker 2: Now, especially after garlic now.
Speaker 3: After you're hot sauce.
Speaker 2: That hurts.
Speaker 3: But when we got married, we decided we wanted to
Speaker 3: grow old together. That was part of it when we
Speaker 3: said yes to each other on June twenty first, nineteen
Speaker 3: seventy five. We fully intended to grow old together. It's
Speaker 3: what we have intended to do, and so that has
Speaker 3: kept us in many of the moments when it truly
Speaker 3: would have been easier to just say I am so done,
Speaker 3: I am done. I'm not putting up with that another second.
Speaker 3: You and I I can't forgive you. We're just done.
Speaker 3: And to know that that commitment and that vow has
Speaker 3: has kept us. It's been a lot of blood, sweat
Speaker 3: and tears. There's a lot of blood on the floor,
Speaker 3: a lot of sweat and tears. But it's so worth it.
Speaker 3: You could see, you could say, why go through all
Speaker 3: that blood, sweat and tears. Why if it's so hard
Speaker 3: and it's so challenging, why go through all that blood
Speaker 3: in tears? Because it is so worth it too, as
Speaker 3: Rick said, to know to be fully known, to know somebody,
Speaker 3: and be fully known, to know that we're reflecting God's
Speaker 3: love for his people. That is the that's one of
Speaker 3: the reasons that it's worth keeping going. And I would
Speaker 3: just say the last thing I would say is for
Speaker 3: those of you that in your late teens or twenties
Speaker 3: or thirties and honestly are a little frightened of marriage.
Speaker 3: You've seen your own family, You've seen the trouble in
Speaker 3: your own family. You've seen it with friends, with relatives.
Speaker 3: Maybe some of your best friends have already gotten married
Speaker 3: and their marriage is already over, and you're thinking, I
Speaker 3: can't do it. I don't know that I've got what
Speaker 3: it takes to survive in a marriage for my whole lifetime.
Speaker 3: Please don't be afraid, Please don't be afraid of marriage.
Speaker 3: It is so worth it is. It is worth every
Speaker 3: bit of energy you can put into it. God will
Speaker 3: be your help or God will give you grace. Your
Speaker 3: church will stand by you, will pray for you, will
Speaker 3: be there offering practical help. You pray for us, We'll
Speaker 3: pray for you. You pray for us. Don't be afraid
Speaker 3: to get married, you know.
Speaker 2: And for those of you maybe you were in a
Speaker 2: marriage that didn't last. We feel your pain, We love you,
Speaker 2: We want you here. What matters is not so much
Speaker 2: what you've been through, but what direction your feet are
Speaker 2: headed now and your commitment to the sanctity of marriage.
Speaker 2: Whether you ever marry again or not, that you honor
Speaker 2: marriage not based on an experience that you had. It
Speaker 2: really is worth it, you know. One of the benefits
Speaker 2: that Kay and I had as we both were products
Speaker 2: of long marriages. Kay's parents were married sixty years before
Speaker 2: her daddy died. My parents were married fifty two years
Speaker 2: before my mom died. And I'll always be grateful to
Speaker 2: my parents that my parents got married during World War Two,
Speaker 2: and they got married, they were only together three months,
Speaker 2: and my dad was shipped off to the South Pacific
Speaker 2: for the next two years and did not see his
Speaker 2: bride for two years. And he was involved in Guadalcanal
Speaker 2: and in Solomon Islands and in a lot of hand
Speaker 2: to hand combat. And he came back from that war
Speaker 2: experience a changed man. He was not the same man
Speaker 2: that my mom had married. My mom could have said,
Speaker 2: you're not the guy I married and walked out and
Speaker 2: walked out. If she had made that decision, I wouldn't
Speaker 2: be sitting here. You wouldn't be sitting here. There would
Speaker 2: be no saddle backed church, there would be no purpose
Speaker 2: driven life, there would be no peace plan, there would
Speaker 2: be no millions of people touched a lot of times
Speaker 2: when we're in pain, all we can think of is
Speaker 2: I got to get out of this pain. But you
Speaker 2: don't have any idea how that decision is going to
Speaker 2: affect other people around you, and you need to just
Speaker 2: be very careful about it. Now. Maybe you didn't grow
Speaker 2: up in a stable marriage. Okay, you start the new
Speaker 2: legacy for your family tree. You make the commitment, We're
Speaker 2: gonna break the cycle of divorce. We're gonna break the
Speaker 2: cycle of whatever. Okay, you make that decision. Let me stay.
Speaker 2: A couple of things will close if you're married. Make
Speaker 2: a recommitment to lock the escape patch, throw away the key,
Speaker 2: and say we're gonna make this thing work. If it
Speaker 2: kills us. It nearly did us several times, but it
Speaker 2: is worth it. The joy of a long term relationship,
Speaker 2: the comfort of a long the support, the flat out
Speaker 2: fun of knowing that this woman knows me completely and
Speaker 2: still likes me.
Speaker 3: Ha ha.
Speaker 2: That gives me an ability to handle enormous amounts of
Speaker 2: stress and enormous amounts of pressure. Because the the Bible
Speaker 2: says two are better than one. It's one of the
Speaker 2: values of marriage. So make a commitment to your marriage
Speaker 2: to stay in it and work on it, rather than
Speaker 2: people say, well, the grass is greener on the other
Speaker 2: side of the fence. The grass is not greener on
Speaker 2: the other side of the fence. The grass is not
Speaker 2: greener on this side of the fence. The grass is
Speaker 2: greener where you water it. That's where you put your energy.
Speaker 2: And so and if you have them been married, make
Speaker 2: a commitment that if I get married, it's a lifetime commitment.
Speaker 2: Why don't we pray for the couples, and why don't
Speaker 2: you lead us?
Speaker 3: Should we have them stand?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 3: No, Okay, so we're gonna ask you stand if you're married,
Speaker 3: and even if you came to church mad at each
Speaker 3: other today, and it happens we've all got a lover,
Speaker 3: and you may even be in that winter season and
Speaker 3: it really doesn't feel that great, but great, We're going
Speaker 3: to pray for.
Speaker 2: You, all right.
Speaker 3: Father. I pray for these men and women who are
Speaker 3: standing and are we committing, even just in the smallest
Speaker 3: way some of them. God, I thank you for those
Speaker 3: who are in that spring season and they're busy, and
Speaker 3: they have maybe gotten into a pattern and a habit
Speaker 3: of busyness. I pray that you would give them good
Speaker 3: insight into how they can reconnect with each other and
Speaker 3: how they can make time for their relationship. For those
Speaker 3: that are in the summer, God, their things are just
Speaker 3: going so well. We're grateful for that and thank you
Speaker 3: for that. May they be wise enough to invest now
Speaker 3: and put down their roots deeply into You and into
Speaker 3: the relationship, to store up for the harder times that
Speaker 3: inevitably come. And God, for those who are in that
Speaker 3: season of change, and there's just been tremendous change, and
Speaker 3: maybe some are new here, I pray that they will
Speaker 3: be able to adjust to that and see it through
Speaker 3: the eyes of wonderful new doors opening for them. For
Speaker 3: those God, which is probably every couple in this room,
Speaker 3: who encounter those stuck places in their relationship when things
Speaker 3: just don't move and they don't change, may we be
Speaker 3: wise enough and loving enough and mature enough to accept
Speaker 3: without demanding that are mate be perfect or be exactly
Speaker 3: the way that we want them to be, but to
Speaker 3: offer the grace to them that You have given to us.
Speaker 3: For those Lord who are in that winter, that cold place,
Speaker 3: there's been lost, there's been grief, there may have been betrayal,
Speaker 3: there may have been deep agony, and they are wounded
Speaker 3: as they stand here, would you, Holy Spirit, blow the
Speaker 3: warm of your love and your fire back into their marriage.
Speaker 3: Comfort where there's brokenness, repair what has been torn apart.
Speaker 3: You are a good God, and we trust you to
Speaker 3: bless the marriages in our church. And I pray this
Speaker 3: in the name of Jesus Christ, our Savior. Amen you me.
Speaker 1: Thanks so much, Rick, What a great message today. Hey,
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