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<v Speaker 1>Hey, this is Cliff, your host of birth Ancients, and

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<v Speaker 1>today we're going to the ancient past and we're looking

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<v Speaker 1>at systems of chronicling age like the Yugas, like astrology

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<v Speaker 1>and other wisdom, ancient wisdom traditions that give us a

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<v Speaker 1>sense of how to work with the cosmos, but also.

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<v Speaker 2>Where we've been and where we're going. And I got

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<v Speaker 2>to tell you, I am excited we're going to be.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to be in Egypt in a few days.

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<v Speaker 2>And every time I go there, I'm astounded at the

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<v Speaker 2>sophistication of not only the sculpture, but of the buildings,

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<v Speaker 2>the temples, and and also the pyramid. And this is

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if you haven't been there, there's no way

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<v Speaker 2>to know to understand the scale of the Giza Pyramids.

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<v Speaker 2>They are just enormous. And there's really no way that

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<v Speaker 2>I can see technologically that the Proonic period the Pharaohs

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<v Speaker 2>built these pyramids. They're just too damn tall. They're three

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<v Speaker 2>hundred feet in the air and the average block weighs

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<v Speaker 2>two tons. There's just no way that they were built

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<v Speaker 2>or conceived. That's the bigger thing. Who who conceives of

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<v Speaker 2>these monstrosities of stone? And then if you go inside,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're lucky enough to go inside. The intricacies of

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<v Speaker 2>the stonework are also curious. So when these when were

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<v Speaker 2>they built, Who built them, and who conceived who was

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<v Speaker 2>intelligent enough to conceive of the engineering prowess and use

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<v Speaker 2>that prowess in building the pyramids and the temples and

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<v Speaker 2>these megalithic colossi statues. I mean, when you go to Egypt,

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<v Speaker 2>you're just dumbfounded. It's like you're stunned. You're stunned into silence.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're led to believe by the Egyptologists that these

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<v Speaker 2>are crafted by people who are living living very rudimentary lifestyles.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not that sophisticated. There are artifacts that are seemingly sophisticated.

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<v Speaker 2>But my belief, and I mentioned this all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>my belief is that the Egyptians inherited, they found these temples.

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<v Speaker 2>We know this as a fact. We know that Ramsey's

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<v Speaker 2>the big usurper, the big copier, the big egotist, placed

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<v Speaker 2>his cartouche on literally hundreds of statues, temples and buildings,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm surprised he didn't scratch off Cufu's name and

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<v Speaker 2>claimed that the Great pyramid was his work. Really, the

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<v Speaker 2>guy's ego is just beyond measure. But the thing that

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<v Speaker 2>we want to know is, and before I go on,

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<v Speaker 2>because Ramseys and these other pharaohs claimed these pre dynastic

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<v Speaker 2>buildings and sculptures, we were confused. We're really confused. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a little disappointed at archaeology, at Egyptology for not

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<v Speaker 2>looking a little closer at this and seeing that. Wait

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<v Speaker 2>a minute, if we compare two statues from the same period,

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<v Speaker 2>are they from the same artists group, and likely they're not.

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<v Speaker 2>The big colossi that I'm fascinated by are not from

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<v Speaker 2>any Pharonic period. They're just too enormous, and even the

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<v Speaker 2>Abu Sabil colossi are beyond anything that the artisans of

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<v Speaker 2>that time period, New Kingdom time period. There is no

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<v Speaker 2>way they could have done it. And AI is reporting

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<v Speaker 2>this now. There's very very good evidence for them enhancing

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<v Speaker 2>it with sculptures around the big colossi. But when you

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<v Speaker 2>look at it up close, and I have had an

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity to see it a couple of times, these things

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<v Speaker 2>are monstrosities. And they didn't have the cutting tools to

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<v Speaker 2>define and to carve these sculptures. But who did And

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<v Speaker 2>that's the question where face with today? What was the period?

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<v Speaker 2>Now we know that the you guys talk about cycles

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<v Speaker 2>of time of mankind and they get into tens of thousands,

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<v Speaker 2>hundreds of thousands of years in the distant past. We

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<v Speaker 2>don't know because there's no way to carbon date or

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<v Speaker 2>predict how old many of these sculptures are. But they're

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<v Speaker 2>not phuronic. They're much earlier than that. And one of

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<v Speaker 2>the things I'm going to be excited to do to

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<v Speaker 2>do I'll do it over a couple of days, if

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<v Speaker 2>not more, is you know, photograph these statues that are

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<v Speaker 2>in the new Grand Egyptian Museum, but also go through

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<v Speaker 2>the various departments and see what's new. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>what happens with our historians is that they see these

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<v Speaker 2>things so often they just get jaded. And it's really

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<v Speaker 2>important to get a new set of eyes. And this

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<v Speaker 2>is where engineers like Chris.

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<v Speaker 3>Dun and.

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<v Speaker 2>John duart Read and others are important contributors to our

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<v Speaker 2>understanding of the ancient past. So what does that mean?

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<v Speaker 2>So we need to be more open to the possibilities

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, and it's just a real challenge to

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<v Speaker 2>go over there. Sometimes in the Egypt, because you're dealing

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<v Speaker 2>with a society is a couple of decades behind the

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<v Speaker 2>times scientifically as well, and it's depressing. So I had

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of turn my mind off to that and

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy the artifacts, the buildings, the ruins, and the people

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<v Speaker 2>that I travel with, which is really great fun. So

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<v Speaker 2>today we're focusing on a new book is called Astrological

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<v Speaker 2>Ages and the Galactic Center Ancient Wisdom for this Time

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<v Speaker 2>of Transition, and my guest is Heather m Endsworth. We're

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<v Speaker 2>featuring a new book this week. It's on not only astrology,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's on the cosmos and yugas and all kinds

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<v Speaker 2>of really cool material. But it also is focused on

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<v Speaker 2>the ancients and how they were aware, much more aware

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<v Speaker 2>of the universe than we are today. The books called

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<v Speaker 2>Astrological Ages and the Galactic Center Ancient Wisdom for this

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<v Speaker 2>Time of Transition. That's a lot to bite into, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you this book is excellent and I am

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<v Speaker 2>really enjoying what I've been reading so far. The author

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<v Speaker 2>is Heather Ainsworth. She is an astrologer, a clinical psychologist

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<v Speaker 2>with a background and cultural anthropology, and that's an interesting topic.

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<v Speaker 2>We want to talk a little bit about that as well,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I think you're really going to enjoy this. So, Heather,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome to Earth Ancient. Is great to have you on

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<v Speaker 2>the program.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you so much. Cliff, it's great to be here.

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<v Speaker 4>I love your program.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. Hey, I want to talk about you first,

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<v Speaker 2>clinical psychologist anthropologist that's pretty academic. What was the transition

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<v Speaker 2>to this topic because you're dealing with systems as a

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<v Speaker 2>clinical psychologist, you're dealing with anthropology, which has firm stop.

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<v Speaker 2>So I deal with archaeologists all the time, and when

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<v Speaker 2>I say firm stops, it's like, we don't believe there's

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<v Speaker 2>any evidence of civilization before this date, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean? So to talk about your transition from or

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<v Speaker 2>are you still practicing or what kind of work are

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<v Speaker 2>you doing now?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm primarily doing astrological work now, teaching, doing readings, but

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<v Speaker 4>I weave in obviously my background in clinical psychology and

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<v Speaker 4>my writing and my interests are very much around this

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<v Speaker 4>whole different understanding of our human history and the advanced

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<v Speaker 4>ancient cultures of the past that have so much wisdom

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<v Speaker 4>to bring us in this current time of transition that

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<v Speaker 4>we're in.

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<v Speaker 2>Was there a book a travel time, a experience that

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<v Speaker 2>led you to be more locked then to this work.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, that's a great question. I was very influenced

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<v Speaker 4>by starting to travel to different ancient sacred sites. I

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<v Speaker 4>have a background in cultural anthropology and almost went in

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<v Speaker 4>that direction professionally, except I didn't like what that would

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<v Speaker 4>mean in terms of more and more the options in

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<v Speaker 4>cultural anthropology are looking at how indigenous cultures are being

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<v Speaker 4>destroyed by modern Western cultures. But I was really fascinated

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<v Speaker 4>with ancient sacred sites in Peru, in Egypt, in different

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<v Speaker 4>parts of the globe, and it was visiting those sites.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember very powerful experiencing that in my first trip

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<v Speaker 4>to Peru, where I realized these sites are both much

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<v Speaker 4>more ancient than they're presented as being. And I actually

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<v Speaker 4>when I went to Pera was being taken around by

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<v Speaker 4>an archaeologist, a Peruvian archaeologist, who said, look, this is

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<v Speaker 4>I actually believe.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that. I love that. So he's like a

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<v Speaker 2>local who's like, look, this is how I was raised,

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<v Speaker 2>this is what is in my heart, Here's what I've

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<v Speaker 2>been told to say. This is kind of.

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly, but he showed us how ancient these sites were,

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<v Speaker 4>dating back ten twelve thousand years, and the level of

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<v Speaker 4>advanced technology, and as you know, doing all your trips

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<v Speaker 4>to Egypt, we see that in Egypt also, and the

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<v Speaker 4>most ancient sites there are clearly the most sophisticated and

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<v Speaker 4>the most advanced in terms of their understanding of astronomy, mathematics, technology.

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<v Speaker 4>So that got me intrigued and started me in that

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<v Speaker 4>whole exploration of Graham Hancock's and Robert Bovall and Robert Shock,

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<v Speaker 4>the realization that our whole modern Western understanding of history

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<v Speaker 4>is an illusion.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly. Did you have a transition period where you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>this is too much meaning for me, I can't keep

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<v Speaker 2>doing my earlier work, or an aha moment in your work.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I was on a track of professionally being a

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<v Speaker 4>clinical psychologist and really took that as far as I

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<v Speaker 4>could in terms of my training, in terms of my work.

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<v Speaker 4>I was very in a very successful private practice when

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<v Speaker 4>at age thirty eight, I had this very powerful mystical

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<v Speaker 4>experience in which I heard of voice within that basically

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<v Speaker 4>said you need to leave your life as you've known

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<v Speaker 4>it or you will die. Oh my God, And I

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<v Speaker 4>knew in every fiber of my being that was true,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's what led me to leave the path I

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<v Speaker 4>was on. I was in private practice in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 4>I closed my practice, sold my home, moved across the country,

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<v Speaker 4>went into this very prolonged liminal period of Then I

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<v Speaker 4>just started exploring ancient wisdom traditions, ancient healing traditions. That's

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<v Speaker 4>what led me into more and more of the traveling

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<v Speaker 4>to ancient sacred sites, studying shamanism, herbalism, ended up studying astrology.

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<v Speaker 4>That's when all of that unfolded.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a big shift. You must have been wondering what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on. I love those kind of stories because they

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<v Speaker 2>set the stage for future work, and obviously this book

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<v Speaker 2>comes out of that that change. I don't think that

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<v Speaker 2>you could have written in the same passion that you

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<v Speaker 2>would have tried to do as a clinical psychologist. You

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<v Speaker 2>would have been a different book. Yes, exactly did you

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<v Speaker 2>start a meditative practice at all? I mean, what's your

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<v Speaker 2>practice now? May I ask?

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<v Speaker 4>I had always been very much on a spiritual path

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<v Speaker 4>all of my life, But really that transition was not

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<v Speaker 4>only leaving clinical psychology, but a few years before that,

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<v Speaker 4>leaving the religious background I had grown up in then

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<v Speaker 4>really opening to other forms of spirituality, and some of

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<v Speaker 4>my practice is very much incorporates meditation shamanic practices, the

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<v Speaker 4>ancient medicine will practice is very important to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Before we started, you said that you go to different places?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you lead to.

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<v Speaker 4>I have led many tours to Egypt wonderful, led a

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<v Speaker 4>tour to some of the ancient sites in Ireland, and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm contemplating doing one.

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<v Speaker 2>To Peru fantastic. I hope you do them. They're great.

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<v Speaker 2>Your book connects astrology, cosmology and consciousness. What is the

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<v Speaker 2>core thesis that you want the reader to take away

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<v Speaker 2>from that?

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<v Speaker 4>It's really about remembering this ancient wisdom which was this

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<v Speaker 4>deep understanding of the processional cycle. And as you and

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<v Speaker 4>I were talking about before we got on the recording,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm friends with Bibu Dev Misra. I really see the

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<v Speaker 4>connection between the processional cycle and the Hindu Yuga cycle

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<v Speaker 4>in their description of our going through this twenty fourth

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<v Speaker 4>year cycle, and it is a cycle of ascending consciousness

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<v Speaker 4>and descending consciousness. And also both Bibpoo Dev Misra and

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<v Speaker 4>I talk about the critical crisis points in that cycle

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<v Speaker 4>are the midpoint, which twelve thousand years ago was when

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<v Speaker 4>we had the younger, driest crisis and the end point

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<v Speaker 4>crisis points, less extreme at the six thousand year marker,

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<v Speaker 4>but there are times of earth changes and shifts and

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<v Speaker 4>consciousness between the ages, and at these critical times of shift,

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<v Speaker 4>but especially every twelve thousand years. So the ancient cultures

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<v Speaker 4>understood that we go through this cycle, understood how it

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<v Speaker 4>affects our consciousness, but also understood how critical it is

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<v Speaker 4>when we're at these times of radical change. And that's

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<v Speaker 4>where we are as humanity now. And I truly believe

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<v Speaker 4>this is a karmaic choice point for us as humanity.

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<v Speaker 4>We have the opportunity to remember who we truly are,

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<v Speaker 4>what our history has been, this evolution of consciousness that

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<v Speaker 4>we've been through, and have the opportunity, as the Peruvian

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<v Speaker 4>Shawmans would say, to make an evolutionary shift into a

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<v Speaker 4>through another cataclysmic crisis like we did twelve thousand years ago.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's a critical time and that a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>my book is trying to bring this into our awareness,

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<v Speaker 4>to support our being more conscious of this profound transition

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<v Speaker 4>time that we're in, and how we can work that

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I am a big advocate of the Yugas. Are

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<v Speaker 2>you following the Shri Yukaswar version or are you using

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<v Speaker 2>the traditional version, because there's a slight shift in the timeline,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think Yukoshor, which is what I follow, believes

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<v Speaker 2>we're instilled in Cali Yuga, which is the lowest point

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<v Speaker 2>in humanity.

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<v Speaker 4>Unfortunately, well you know, and Bibu Dev Misras based most

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<v Speaker 4>of his work on his version, but he strongly believes

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<v Speaker 4>we ended the Kaliyuka in March. That's right live, and

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<v Speaker 4>I fully agree with him. What's so fascinating is working

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<v Speaker 4>with his model of the Hindu Yuga cycle and then

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<v Speaker 4>my astrological understanding, it really all lines up. And we've

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<v Speaker 4>been in such powerful shifts astrologically that really align with

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<v Speaker 4>the sense that we're now coming out of the Caleyuga.

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<v Speaker 4>And part of what I think we're seeing on the

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<v Speaker 4>planet right now is that we're in that transition time

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<v Speaker 4>and it means moving into radically new paradigms and systems

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<v Speaker 4>and structures. The Aquarian age is about equality, community collaboration.

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<v Speaker 4>It's about moving away from power over hierarchical dynamics. But

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<v Speaker 4>I think what we're seeing on the planet right now

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<v Speaker 4>are the last gasps of that effort to cling to

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<v Speaker 4>the old power over paradigms, while at the same time

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<v Speaker 4>we're seeing this increasing consciousness, increasing interests in spirituality, a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of shifts into more of the aquarian paradigms.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's positive, but I think we're at the

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<v Speaker 2>We're in a pretty dark place right now globally, with

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<v Speaker 2>our political system here in the United States kind of

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<v Speaker 2>influencing everyone else. And I'm a little torn between Yugas

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<v Speaker 2>War's version of the Yugas and the original version. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm curious when you say we're coming out or we're

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<v Speaker 2>entering this new phase, what do you see as I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you mentioned people are getting more conscious or perhaps meditating,

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<v Speaker 2>they're more open, but is there other profound governmental shifts

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<v Speaker 2>that you can discuss that as part of the next phase.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I totally agree with you that we're in such

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<v Speaker 4>an incredibly dark time on the planet and an incredibly

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<v Speaker 4>turbulent time and from my perspective, what we're seeing, which

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<v Speaker 4>is from my view, part of the shift out of

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<v Speaker 4>the Cali Yuga, is all these systems and structures that

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<v Speaker 4>have been intact in that power over paradigm are all

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<v Speaker 4>beginning to deconstruct. Everything is in chaos. Our political systems,

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<v Speaker 4>our educational systems, are healthcare systems, are economic systems. That's

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<v Speaker 4>I think the turbulence of the transition that we're in

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<v Speaker 4>and what gives me a sense of hope is both

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of what I learned from the Peruvian Shamans

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<v Speaker 4>about this is a time. They call it the time

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<v Speaker 4>of the Paschakuti, when the world turns upside down, and

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<v Speaker 4>they didn't mean that in terms of a literal pull shift,

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<v Speaker 4>but that everything is getting restructured, reconfigured. So it is

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<v Speaker 4>a time of turbulence, but for them it's a time

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<v Speaker 4>where there's this opening for the potential of an evolutionary

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<v Speaker 4>leap in who we are as humanity. But we're needing

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<v Speaker 4>to deconstruct the patterns of the past, realize how destructive

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<v Speaker 4>and dysfunctional they are. I mean, as a clinical psychologist,

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<v Speaker 4>I think some of what we're seeing in the collective

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<v Speaker 4>consciousness is what's getting mirrored back to us and reflected

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<v Speaker 4>back to us is the extreme shadow aspects of who

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<v Speaker 4>we've been as humanity and what we're capable of trying

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<v Speaker 4>to everything's on the surface right now to help us

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<v Speaker 4>see that, heal that, and open to moving in radically

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<v Speaker 4>new directions. And as a clinical psychologist, my specialty years

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<v Speaker 4>ago when I was in full time practice was working

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<v Speaker 4>with trauma, and I would work with people over a

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<v Speaker 4>period of years to work through the trauma of the past.

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<v Speaker 4>My experience now with the people that I work with

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<v Speaker 4>is there is such an accelerated possibility of healing. Now.

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<v Speaker 4>We're opening up to new understandings of shamanic healing, energy healing,

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<v Speaker 4>ancient healing traditions, new and energy systems. There's such an

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<v Speaker 4>increasing from my perspective, openness to spirituality and an interest

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<v Speaker 4>in higher consciousness in ways that I've never seen before.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's happening simultaneously that the world is deconstructing in chaos.

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<v Speaker 2>You say, we're also getting help because you believe the

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<v Speaker 2>universe is sentient and guiding evolution, which I really like.

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<v Speaker 2>And it is a topic that comes up when we

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<v Speaker 2>talk about artificial intelligence. Is eventual growth into sentience, but

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<v Speaker 2>explain what you mean by sentience. The universe providing us

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<v Speaker 2>guidance and being much more available.

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<v Speaker 4>For me as an astrologer, it's been exquisite to see

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<v Speaker 4>some of the shifts that are happening astrologically, the ways

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<v Speaker 4>in which we're getting these increasing solar energies, which we

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<v Speaker 4>know now activate the pineal gland, support our opening to

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<v Speaker 4>more spiritual awareness. As Bibuud dev Miser talks about the

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<v Speaker 4>Galactic Center reactivated in twenty twenty four that activates these

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<v Speaker 4>galactic cosmic rays that support our increase in consciousness, I

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<v Speaker 4>feel like there is there are so many ways the

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<v Speaker 4>Earth herself and the cosmos are trying to support us,

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<v Speaker 4>guide us into waking up and being in this transformational process.

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<v Speaker 4>And one of my biggest regrets is that Three Eye

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<v Speaker 4>Atlas came after I finished my book. When I've tracked

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<v Speaker 4>Three Ie Atlas, its entry into our awareness, its movement

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<v Speaker 4>through the solar system, the correlation of that with messages

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<v Speaker 4>about the processional cycle really mind blowing for me. It's

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<v Speaker 4>almost as if the Cosmos is putting out in neon lights,

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<v Speaker 4>this is the process that you're in. This is how

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<v Speaker 4>you can heal and transform. Wake Up, Wake Up.

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<v Speaker 2>all controlled by energy and systems and tracked by programs

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<v Speaker 2>like the Yugas you get funny. We've had doctor Avi

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<v Speaker 2>Love on the program a couple of different times talking

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<v Speaker 2>about three Atlas. What do you see? It's still happening,

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<v Speaker 2>it's still moving. Do you believe it's a craft of

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<v Speaker 2>some kind or do you actually think it's an asteroid

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I mean, I think it could be

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<v Speaker 4>a highly advanced galactic civilization that's trying to support us

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<v Speaker 4>in this shift. But I also do believe and Stefan

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<v Speaker 4>Burns and I talk a lot about this that if

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<v Speaker 4>whether this was a craft or it is a cosmic

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<v Speaker 4>galactic being that's bringing its messages into our solar system.

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<v Speaker 4>Either way, what it's been communicating has been absolutely exquisite.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, just as an example, it entered our awareness

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<v Speaker 4>in the stars of Ophiucus. Part of what I talk

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<v Speaker 4>about in the book is the importance of that constellation

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<v Speaker 4>as symbolic. It is the Serpent Bearer, it is the

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<v Speaker 4>Great Healer. It is symbolic of the integration of sacred

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<v Speaker 4>masculine and sacred feminine and wisdom. It is the constellation

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<v Speaker 4>over Scorpius, which was the constellation that marked the entry

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<v Speaker 4>into the Golden Age. So three Ales comes in in

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<v Speaker 4>the stars of Ophiucus, guiding us to heal, to reintegrate

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<v Speaker 4>the sacred feminine and the sacred masculine. It then moved

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<v Speaker 4>through the constellations that were associated with the Golden Age,

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<v Speaker 4>the Satya Yuga. Then it activates Mars, acts of it

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<v Speaker 4>comes close to the Sun, it activates Venus, all in

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<v Speaker 4>correlation across its passes with all the planets Earth, Jupiter,

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<v Speaker 4>with New moons or full moons, and what are the energies?

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<v Speaker 4>From my perspective, when did we really get out of balance?

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<v Speaker 4>its lowest point in the Age of Ares. What are

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<v Speaker 4>the rulers of those signs Venus and Mars, and what's

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<v Speaker 4>the ruler of age of Pisces, this age we're emerging

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<v Speaker 4>from now. That's also part of the coal Yuka Jupiter.

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<v Speaker 4>So it was activating all of the planets that are

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<v Speaker 4>associated with this time of our lowest consciousness while coming

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<v Speaker 4>in showing us, reminding us of those periods when we

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<v Speaker 4>were in our highest consciousness.

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<v Speaker 2>Why does Orthodoxy look down on astrology when we know

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<v Speaker 2>that our ancestors were They actually considered it a science

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<v Speaker 2>and lived by, especially the Maya in the and the Egyptians.

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<v Speaker 2>But we don't take it seriously. And the subtle energy

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<v Speaker 2>that these planets and constellations give off make us who

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<v Speaker 4>I truly think it's part of what happened when we

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<v Speaker 4>time of our lowest level of consciousness. That has led

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<v Speaker 4>to a disconnection from a sense of the earth as sacred,

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<v Speaker 4>a disconnection from the consciousness of the cosmos, and then

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<v Speaker 4>we got caught in scientific materialism. And it is only

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<v Speaker 4>in the caliuga that we get caught in left brain dominance.

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<v Speaker 4>In the other aspects of the cycle, when we're in

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<v Speaker 4>higher levels of consciousness, we're more right brain dominant, meaning

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<v Speaker 4>what we've really gotten disc connected from in the time

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny because people think it's a kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>comic book. They look at their astrological sight and go, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this is going to happen today. So part of them

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<v Speaker 2>is like taking it in and serious about it, but

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<v Speaker 2>a big another part of it's like, oh, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>really matter, but it does matter. It's huge. It's so funny.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, and from my perspective, it's not as if the

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<v Speaker 4>movement of the planets in the stars control us or

424
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<v Speaker 4>indicate things in a predictive or deterministic way. From my perspective,

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<v Speaker 4>it's more along the lines of the hermetic principles as

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<v Speaker 4>above so below right, that the movement of the planets

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<v Speaker 4>in the stars mirrors the energies on the Earth and

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<v Speaker 4>is a form of guidance for us to understand what

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<v Speaker 4>we're experiencing individually and collectively and how to work with

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<v Speaker 4>it in the most conscious way possible.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the themes in your book is the precision

432
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<v Speaker 2>of the equinox, which is a big deal. And the

433
00:34:20.280 --> 00:34:23.320
<v Speaker 2>cycle that we've been led to believe is twenty six

434
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<v Speaker 2>hundred year cycles. Your new cycle is twenty four hundred years.

435
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<v Speaker 2>What's the change? What have you found that makes you

436
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<v Speaker 2>think that this is the cycle that we should be following.

437
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<v Speaker 4>So I really believe the processional cycle is twenty four

438
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<v Speaker 4>thousand years, and that that then correlates closely with the

439
00:34:47.760 --> 00:34:51.599
<v Speaker 4>Hindu Yuga cycle, as Bipoo Dev Misra has talked about it.

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<v Speaker 4>And one of the things that I find absolutely fascinating

441
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<v Speaker 4>is I strongly believe that the processional cycle is related

442
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<v Speaker 4>to our being part of a binary star system. And

443
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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure you're familiar with Walter Cruttenton's work, and oh yeah,

444
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<v Speaker 4>and he originally believed that that binary star was serious

445
00:35:14.159 --> 00:35:18.320
<v Speaker 4>and now he's looking at other options, Bernard's Star or

446
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<v Speaker 4>other options. But I firmly believe that Sirius is our

447
00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:29.960
<v Speaker 4>binary star, and it may be what in that interaction

448
00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:35.159
<v Speaker 4>with the Sun and there orbiting around each other pulls

449
00:35:35.199 --> 00:35:38.440
<v Speaker 4>us through these different phases in our cycles of consciousness.

450
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<v Speaker 4>Robert Edward Grant has done some absolutely fascinating analysis of

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<v Speaker 4>the speed of procession, and he believes that as the

452
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<v Speaker 4>we get closer to our binary star, the speed of

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<v Speaker 4>the processional cycle speeds up, and then when we get

454
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<v Speaker 4>more distant it slows down. So his sense is that

455
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<v Speaker 4>when we're in the Caliyuga at the furthest distance from

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<v Speaker 4>the star Serius, the movement of procession from our Earth

457
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<v Speaker 4>perspective is one degree every seventy two years. His mathematical

458
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<v Speaker 4>research would indicate at its fastest the processional cycle moves

459
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<v Speaker 4>one degree every sixty years. If you work out the

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<v Speaker 4>average of all of that, it comes to the cycle

461
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<v Speaker 4>as a whole is twenty four thousand years. We're in

462
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<v Speaker 4>the slower time now, which is how we've calculated it

463
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<v Speaker 4>out from one degree every seventy two years correlating to

464
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<v Speaker 4>little over twenty six thousand years but I actually think

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<v Speaker 4>he's accurate that we go through different speeds in the

466
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<v Speaker 4>processional cycle and that it averages out to twenty four

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<v Speaker 4>thousand years.

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<v Speaker 2>That's interesting. What is it about the binary star that

469
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<v Speaker 2>influences us and why is it such a major factor

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<v Speaker 2>in this book of yours.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm open to exploring options as to what really relates

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<v Speaker 4>to this ascending descending consciousness. I believe it is related

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<v Speaker 4>to our being a binary star with Sirius, But I

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<v Speaker 4>also agree with Bibpu dev Misra that we're influenced by

475
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<v Speaker 4>the activation of the galactic center at different periods in

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<v Speaker 4>our history and the cosmic energies coming to us from

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<v Speaker 4>the galactic center. So that factors in in a very

478
00:37:44.920 --> 00:37:49.400
<v Speaker 4>important way in terms of our shifts in consciousness. But

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<v Speaker 4>if you think about it, I think that it's interesting

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<v Speaker 4>just from a symbolic perspective, if you think about our sun,

481
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<v Speaker 4>our star, being part of a binary star system, as

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<v Speaker 4>eighty percent of the stars in the galaxy are, then

483
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<v Speaker 4>we're in this dance with another star and in this

484
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<v Speaker 4>interaction where I believe this gets into a much longer

485
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<v Speaker 4>conversation about Sirius in its association with Isis and how

486
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<v Speaker 4>that relates to the myth of Isis and Osiris, and

487
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<v Speaker 4>how that I think is wisdom about the processional cycle.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think that there's a way in which Sirius

489
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<v Speaker 4>holds this capacity for our higher consciousness, and when we're

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<v Speaker 4>closer in our dance with that star, we remember what

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00:38:44.079 --> 00:38:47.880
<v Speaker 4>we had forgotten and move into higher consciousness. And at

492
00:38:47.920 --> 00:38:52.760
<v Speaker 4>our greatest distance we move into the Caliyugo. We feel

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<v Speaker 4>we're alone. We have a solar hero in the middle

494
00:38:55.960 --> 00:38:58.880
<v Speaker 4>of our solar system, and we forget that we're even

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<v Speaker 4>part of a binary star system, and caught in this

496
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<v Speaker 4>illusion of separation, which is part of what's led us

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<v Speaker 4>to this low level of consciousness.

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<v Speaker 2>You said eighty percent of the cosmosis binary stars. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>what does that mean for us? Does that mean that

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<v Speaker 2>we are being constantly bombarded by these frequencies that are

501
00:39:23.880 --> 00:39:26.920
<v Speaker 2>changing us on an evolutionary scale or is it more

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<v Speaker 2>than that.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I think you're absolutely right, and I think we're

504
00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:37.480
<v Speaker 4>getting impacted by energies from the galactic center from our

505
00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:41.800
<v Speaker 4>binary star. We're now getting this activation from the binary

506
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<v Speaker 4>in the signals star system. So I think there are

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<v Speaker 4>so many ways that we are activated by these cosmic energies.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think that dance with the binary star is

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<v Speaker 4>a critical part of our solar system's journey, not only

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<v Speaker 4>through the galaxy, but through that evolution of consciousness.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's one for you. How do we take it in?

512
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<v Speaker 2>How do we take this new energy in? Do we?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I've been meditating for thirty years. I feel

514
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<v Speaker 2>it every week, there's something going on. But for those

515
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<v Speaker 2>who are not meditators, what do we do to be

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<v Speaker 2>more receptive?

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<v Speaker 4>I think meditation is very helpful, and I think walking

518
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<v Speaker 4>in nature is very helpful. The Earth, ourself is in

519
00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:38.039
<v Speaker 4>a transformational process, and I think when we're in stillness,

520
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<v Speaker 4>when we're meditating, when we're connecting to nature, we can

521
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<v Speaker 4>allow ourselves to be open to these energies and integrate them. Otherwise,

522
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<v Speaker 4>we're so distracted in our world right now with all

523
00:40:51.119 --> 00:40:55.599
<v Speaker 4>the external stimuli, that we can keep ourselves disconnected. And

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<v Speaker 4>I think I think part of what we're seeing in

525
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<v Speaker 4>the world right now is we are getting impacted by

526
00:41:01.480 --> 00:41:07.679
<v Speaker 4>these solar and cosmic energies. And it's either activating the

527
00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:12.960
<v Speaker 4>pineal bland and an increasing consciousness for people, or it's

528
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<v Speaker 4>deep stabilizing them.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't want to say forced evolution, but we

530
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<v Speaker 2>evolve as we're bathed in these energies, is what you're

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<v Speaker 2>somewhat saying. Yes, yes, yeah, that's pretty cool talk about

532
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<v Speaker 2>the galactic center, because that's a topic that comes up.

533
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<v Speaker 2>You describe it as a kind of a source.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, all ancient cultures saw it as kind of

535
00:41:40.880 --> 00:41:46.280
<v Speaker 4>the cosmic womb. It is the birth place of our

536
00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:53.360
<v Speaker 4>galaxy and our source, and so much of the ancient

537
00:41:53.960 --> 00:41:58.480
<v Speaker 4>wisdom of cultures about the processional cycle related to our

538
00:41:59.039 --> 00:42:03.199
<v Speaker 4>alignment with the world tree, with that world axis, the

539
00:42:03.280 --> 00:42:07.519
<v Speaker 4>alignment with the galactic center, as well as they're charting

540
00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:14.360
<v Speaker 4>the movement of procession. So it's and again I do

541
00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:19.039
<v Speaker 4>think it literally is the source that not only has

542
00:42:19.159 --> 00:42:26.280
<v Speaker 4>birthed our galaxy but is activating supporting these shifts in

543
00:42:26.320 --> 00:42:32.239
<v Speaker 4>our consciousness. And ancient cultures saw it as not only

544
00:42:32.920 --> 00:42:36.159
<v Speaker 4>the source that we come from, but where we return

545
00:42:36.239 --> 00:42:40.119
<v Speaker 4>at the time of death, and that in keeping in

546
00:42:40.280 --> 00:42:45.239
<v Speaker 4>alignment with that source, that center, then we stay in

547
00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:49.800
<v Speaker 4>right relationship, right harmony with cosmic order.

548
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<v Speaker 2>Do you believe that some of these old cultures that

549
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<v Speaker 2>we understand, like the Maya, the early Egyptians were of

550
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<v Speaker 2>the Sachia Yuga period or is that not? I mean,

551
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<v Speaker 2>because that's a very very evolved human being that's living

552
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<v Speaker 2>at that time. Do you have a sense of different

553
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<v Speaker 2>time periods and the high cultures that were I mean,

554
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<v Speaker 2>we don't know if Atlanta's actually happened or not. It

555
00:43:26.599 --> 00:43:29.480
<v Speaker 2>could have been a different name. Plato calls it Atlantis,

556
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<v Speaker 2>but it may have been something else.

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<v Speaker 4>I believe Atlantis existed, and I believe that Lemuria really

558
00:43:41.280 --> 00:43:48.239
<v Speaker 4>emanates or reflects that wisdom and energy of the Sodyet Yuga.

559
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<v Speaker 4>And you know, in my exploration of zep Tepi and

560
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<v Speaker 4>really ancient Egyptian culture, I think we can definitely trace

561
00:43:57.360 --> 00:44:01.280
<v Speaker 4>it back to the Traida Yuga the Silver Age.

562
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I have.

563
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<v Speaker 4>A sense that there was an even more ancient Egyptian

564
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<v Speaker 4>culture that was part of that Golden Age or yeah

565
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<v Speaker 4>you go.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And if we're heading into what Dwarpa is where

567
00:44:13.800 --> 00:44:18.519
<v Speaker 2>we're going next, what do you see as the influences

568
00:44:18.559 --> 00:44:26.639
<v Speaker 2>of that energy on people? Is it more clarity? I

569
00:44:26.639 --> 00:44:28.519
<v Speaker 2>don't know if where AI fits in all of this,

570
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<v Speaker 2>because I've so hung up with Ai right now. I'm wondering,

571
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<v Speaker 2>where is this a dwarpa or satya technology that's in

572
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<v Speaker 2>its infancy or not. Of course, these are hundreds of

573
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<v Speaker 2>thousands of years, so it can't be. You know, we're

574
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<v Speaker 2>in a spec of time right now. So perhaps it's

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<v Speaker 2>just part of our evolution obviously, But what you're thinking

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<v Speaker 2>on that.

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<v Speaker 4>I actually think that, and the ending of my book

578
00:44:56.760 --> 00:45:02.159
<v Speaker 4>is really postulating the possibility that this is a very

579
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<v Speaker 4>unique time in human history when we have the chance

580
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<v Speaker 4>to step off the wheel of some sorrow and not

581
00:45:11.639 --> 00:45:16.360
<v Speaker 4>keep journeying through this ascending and descending cycle, but make

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<v Speaker 4>an evolutionary leap into remembering who we are and moving

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<v Speaker 4>into higher consciousness.

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<v Speaker 2>Heather, what are you suggesting here? We're going to jump

585
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<v Speaker 2>off the Yuga cycle.

586
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<v Speaker 4>This is what the Peruvian shaman's talk about. They call

587
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<v Speaker 4>it this this threshold point where we have the possibility

588
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<v Speaker 4>of becoming what they describe as homoluminous ones right means

589
00:45:44.519 --> 00:45:48.320
<v Speaker 4>the light and love, And part of what I see

590
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<v Speaker 4>on the planet right now is it is such a

591
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<v Speaker 4>critical karmic choice point because we're on a fast track

592
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<v Speaker 4>for self destruction.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So from my perspective, if we're either going to

595
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<v Speaker 4>create a cataclysm where the Earth will do a cataclysmic

596
00:46:06.760 --> 00:46:13.480
<v Speaker 4>reset to clear the toxicity to start us over again,

597
00:46:14.480 --> 00:46:18.360
<v Speaker 4>and then we will be journeying through that cycle of

598
00:46:18.400 --> 00:46:22.519
<v Speaker 4>ascending and descending consciousness. But I think this is a

599
00:46:22.559 --> 00:46:27.559
<v Speaker 4>time where we have the capacity to actually make that

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<v Speaker 4>evolutionary leap into a whole new way of being. One

601
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<v Speaker 4>of my close friends was Elizabeth Sataurus, evolution biologist. She's

602
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<v Speaker 4>written a brilliant book called Earth Dance, but she talks

603
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<v Speaker 4>about the development of species. She talks about when a

604
00:46:44.599 --> 00:46:48.440
<v Speaker 4>species gets to this level of crisis, it's no longer

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<v Speaker 4>about incremental change. It's a moment for radical evolutionary change

606
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<v Speaker 4>and an evolutionary leap. And I really believe that's where

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<v Speaker 4>we as humans are now.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to take a short commercial break to allow

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<v Speaker 2>our sponsors to identify themselves, and will return shortly with

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<v Speaker 2>my guests today, Heather Ainsworth discussing her new book, Astrological

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<v Speaker 2>Ages in the Galactic Center. We'll be right back with you.

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<v Speaker 2>My guess today is Heather Asworth. She is a psychologist

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<v Speaker 2>and also an astrologer, and she has written a new

614
00:48:14.880 --> 00:48:24.239
<v Speaker 2>book called Astrological Ages in the Galactic Center. But what

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<v Speaker 2>does that look like Heather, is that somebody has a

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00:48:28.800 --> 00:48:32.920
<v Speaker 2>traumatic experience and on the other side of that, they've

617
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<v Speaker 2>cleansed themselves of where they've been and they're looking at

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00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:43.239
<v Speaker 2>life in a different manner. Or I mean, I'm curious

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<v Speaker 2>to understand what that looks like, because you can't just

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<v Speaker 2>switch automatically. It has to be a period of time.

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<v Speaker 2>But maybe it can be, you know, I mean people

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<v Speaker 2>who are when I first learned meditation, the first time

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<v Speaker 2>I actually went into a meditative state was so profound

624
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<v Speaker 2>for me. I knew something had changed and I was

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<v Speaker 2>different from that minute on exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean that can happen with spiritual awakening, that can

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<v Speaker 4>happen with physical and emotional healing. And I do see

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<v Speaker 4>us as in a transition time, and some people actually

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<v Speaker 4>are having those very profound radical shifts. But I see

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<v Speaker 4>this more as a liminal time of potential for healing

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<v Speaker 4>and transformation for us individually and collectively. And this is

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<v Speaker 4>where I am seeing people who are on a path

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<v Speaker 4>of consciousness healing from childhood traumas other issues from the

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<v Speaker 4>past in this very accelerated manner, and I see people

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<v Speaker 4>more and more on a path of spiritual awakening That's

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<v Speaker 4>what gives me hope is in that I have connections

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<v Speaker 4>within my community and other communities are really on this

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<v Speaker 4>fast track of transformation. And at the same time, I

639
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<v Speaker 4>think we're seeing that the worst expressions of the shadow

640
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<v Speaker 4>aspects of humanity playing out. So it's we're in. We're

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<v Speaker 4>already in a way, in a dimensional divide.

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<v Speaker 2>M So for those who are not into spiritual growth,

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<v Speaker 2>who are not in the meditation, they have no concept

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<v Speaker 2>of it. Do they just tag along and fall off

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<v Speaker 2>at some point or do they find a path as well? Well?

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<v Speaker 4>As I'm sure you know Rupert Jeldrake. Chldrake talks about

647
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<v Speaker 4>the morphogenic field and what the Peruvian Shamans would say

648
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<v Speaker 4>is if there are enough of us that open to

649
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<v Speaker 4>this shift and that energy of higher consciousness, it emanates

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<v Speaker 4>into the collective consciousness, into the morphogenic field and can

651
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<v Speaker 4>help shift the global consciousness. But I also think we

652
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<v Speaker 4>each have a choice whether we want to be in

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<v Speaker 4>this transformational process or not. And that's where I think

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<v Speaker 4>that we may be also seeing the potential of this

655
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<v Speaker 4>dimensional divide, which may mean some are going to be

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<v Speaker 4>on a very different path in their experience than those

657
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<v Speaker 4>who are resisting the change and getting caught more in

658
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<v Speaker 4>the chaos and the destabilization that's playing out on the planet.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like you to explain a little better the binary

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<v Speaker 2>star theory and how that is an influence because this

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<v Speaker 2>comes up in your book. How does that work when

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<v Speaker 2>you say a binary star, this is something that directly

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<v Speaker 2>affects human beings.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's in essence of figure eight that we are

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<v Speaker 4>in this orbiting pattern around a binary star, and then

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<v Speaker 4>we're also in these larger movements through the galaxy and

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<v Speaker 4>part of what I think impacts the critical times of

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<v Speaker 4>change every twelve thousand years and bib poodv Miser talks

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<v Speaker 4>about this too, that's when we go through the galactic

670
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<v Speaker 4>current sheet, we go through this period where our magnetic

671
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<v Speaker 4>field is lower than usual. That's where we are right now,

672
00:52:43.039 --> 00:52:48.320
<v Speaker 4>which means we're more impacted by solar energies cosmic energies,

673
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<v Speaker 4>but it's also when we're most vulnerable to the larger

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<v Speaker 4>comets in the torrid comets form Ah, it's likely what

675
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<v Speaker 4>caused the Younger Driest crisis twelve thousand years ago and

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<v Speaker 4>what is potential now? And bidpoo Miser really puts that

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<v Speaker 4>time frame of our greatest potential for a comet strike

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<v Speaker 4>from that toward comet swarm in nineteen twenty thirty two

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<v Speaker 4>or twenty thirty six.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, I was going to ask you about that,

681
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<v Speaker 2>because we do go through the turn stream twice yearly,

682
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<v Speaker 2>and is it your belief that we're setting ourselves up

683
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<v Speaker 2>for another castrophic event or can we bypass it this time?

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<v Speaker 4>That's where I think we have a karmaic choice point.

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<v Speaker 4>And I do believe we're in this conscious interaction with

686
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<v Speaker 4>the cosmos and that if we can heal and be

687
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<v Speaker 4>on a path of transformation. I don't believe we're wanting

688
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<v Speaker 4>to go through a cataclysmic reset at this critical time

689
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<v Speaker 4>in the procession cycle. But if we stay on the

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<v Speaker 4>path that we're on now collectively, I believe we will

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<v Speaker 4>and my senses it will be twenty most likely twenty

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<v Speaker 4>thirty six. But there's another configuration that I find exquisite.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you aware that the stars of Orion move in

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<v Speaker 4>their declination with the professional cycle and that the ancient

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<v Speaker 4>Egyptians knew that. So at the time of zep Tepi,

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<v Speaker 4>the time of our being in more higher consciousness, the

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<v Speaker 4>stars of Orion were their closest to the Earth, and

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<v Speaker 4>the ancient Egyptians used to believe if stars are on

699
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<v Speaker 4>the horizon, they incarnate among us, and Orion was very

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<v Speaker 4>associated with Osiris. As we move through the processional cycle,

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<v Speaker 4>Orion moves further and further in its declination from the

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<v Speaker 4>Earth until it's at its highest point, which is where

703
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<v Speaker 4>it is now furthest from the Earth. So it's such

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<v Speaker 4>a powerful constellation in my mind that's charting our journey

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<v Speaker 4>through the processional cycle and our ascending and descending consciousness.

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<v Speaker 4>And as you know, it's so associated with the story

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<v Speaker 4>of Isis and Osiris, which I think is all about

708
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<v Speaker 4>the processional cycle. The brothers set trying to getting into conflict,

709
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<v Speaker 4>trying to kill Osiris. The meaning of that is chaos, disorder.

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<v Speaker 4>And in twenty thirty two June of twenty thirty two,

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<v Speaker 4>when we have a powerful conjunction of Saturn and Uranus,

712
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<v Speaker 4>which from an astrological perspective is the end of a

713
00:55:56.079 --> 00:56:00.800
<v Speaker 4>cycle movement into new forms, it will live literally be

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<v Speaker 4>in the sky in the upraised arm of Orion, which

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<v Speaker 4>with the ancient Egyptians means resurrection, order triumphs over chaos,

716
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<v Speaker 4>cosmic order, triumphs over are getting caught in the chaos

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<v Speaker 4>of lower levels of consciousness. So that's I think what

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00:56:25.760 --> 00:56:28.239
<v Speaker 4>the cosmos is saying, this is what you're capable of

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00:56:28.719 --> 00:56:30.960
<v Speaker 4>as humanity, but it's your choice.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, for a minute you were going to say

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<v Speaker 2>this is the time when super beings are incarnated on earth,

722
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<v Speaker 2>like you know, Siren and these other gods of Egypt

723
00:56:49.360 --> 00:56:52.400
<v Speaker 2>seem to show up at certain times in our in

724
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<v Speaker 2>that history and do remarkable things. You know, at least

725
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<v Speaker 2>that's what they tell us about.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think we're being called to awaken the Osiris,

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<v Speaker 4>the Horus within us.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk a little bit about karma choice point, because I

729
00:57:14.559 --> 00:57:18.960
<v Speaker 2>think this is something that we have the ability to

730
00:57:19.199 --> 00:57:21.440
<v Speaker 2>manipulate a little bit. But in some cases, if we

731
00:57:21.440 --> 00:57:26.639
<v Speaker 2>don't understand about past lives or what we've come in with,

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<v Speaker 2>we're at the mercy of karma.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, and part of on a different level, I think

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<v Speaker 4>part of what you and I both are aware of

735
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<v Speaker 4>is if we're locked into this modern Western understanding of

736
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<v Speaker 4>history that modern civilization started about six thousand years ago

737
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<v Speaker 4>and is now at its height of advancement, we're in

738
00:57:54.039 --> 00:58:01.039
<v Speaker 4>big trouble because that period is actually in the Hindu

739
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<v Speaker 4>Juga cycle in the professional cycle, the time of our

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<v Speaker 4>our lowest level of consciousness. So to me, part of

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<v Speaker 4>the karmic choice point is the importance of us remembering,

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<v Speaker 4>first of all, that we journey through many lifetimes, and

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00:58:18.039 --> 00:58:21.559
<v Speaker 4>that we as humanity have journeyed through this professional cycle

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<v Speaker 4>many times. And if we don't remember who we truly

745
00:58:26.719 --> 00:58:31.559
<v Speaker 4>are and what our evolution of consciousness has been, then

746
00:58:31.599 --> 00:58:35.119
<v Speaker 4>we're locked into thinking this is our reality as it's

747
00:58:35.159 --> 00:58:37.679
<v Speaker 4>been in the last six thousand years, this is how

748
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<v Speaker 4>it will always be. Then we're just going to keep

749
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<v Speaker 4>re enacting the trauma patterns and the patterns of low

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<v Speaker 4>level of consciousness.

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<v Speaker 2>The books called astrological ages and the galactic Center. My

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00:58:52.880 --> 00:59:00.719
<v Speaker 2>guess today has been Heather asworth. As we conclude avilizations

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<v Speaker 2>that you're somewhat aware of that had that had high

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<v Speaker 2>phases within the Yugas cycle, I mean, can you pick

755
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<v Speaker 2>one and say, yes, this was Satya, or this was Dwarpa,

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<v Speaker 2>this was I'm just curious about your thinking on that,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think if we understand and adapt the Yugas

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00:59:26.280 --> 00:59:31.480
<v Speaker 2>and see how other civilizations lived, it's kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>lesson for us.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, exactly, and I actually believe that the ancient Egyptian

761
00:59:38.639 --> 00:59:43.199
<v Speaker 4>culture reflects all those levels, and in fact, when I

762
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<v Speaker 4>lead tours to each of part of what's fascinating to

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<v Speaker 4>me is we don't have you know, I think with

764
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<v Speaker 4>what we're discovering, with what may be under the Giza Plateau,

765
00:59:52.519 --> 00:59:57.480
<v Speaker 4>we may be opening up to even more ancient advanced

766
00:59:58.400 --> 01:00:03.599
<v Speaker 4>civilizations that were apart of the Egyptian history. But what

767
01:00:03.719 --> 01:00:10.880
<v Speaker 4>we do know is the likelihood of the Giza Plateau,

768
01:00:11.079 --> 01:00:17.159
<v Speaker 4>the Great Pyramid, the Sphinx, the Ossyrian Temple dating back

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01:00:17.239 --> 01:00:23.360
<v Speaker 4>at least to the Treta Yuga twelve thousand years ago,

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<v Speaker 4>and are showing such a high level of advanced technology.

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01:00:29.719 --> 01:00:32.400
<v Speaker 4>Then you see so many of the ancient temple sites

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01:00:32.480 --> 01:00:36.280
<v Speaker 4>built in later periods Age of Taurus or Age of Ares,

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01:00:36.639 --> 01:00:40.679
<v Speaker 4>and you actually can see the technology declining. And what

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01:00:40.800 --> 01:00:44.719
<v Speaker 4>I find fascinating is to take people to dendera temple

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01:00:44.800 --> 01:00:48.719
<v Speaker 4>that was its construction was started in the Age of Taurus.

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01:00:49.559 --> 01:00:53.440
<v Speaker 4>Hathor the cow goddess is honored. There's all these beautiful

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01:00:53.480 --> 01:00:56.760
<v Speaker 4>paintings connecting us to the rhythms of the earth and sky.

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<v Speaker 4>Then you get to the Age of Ares, when we

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01:01:00.159 --> 01:01:03.440
<v Speaker 4>moved into the lowest time of our consciousness, get caught

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<v Speaker 4>in ego sense of separation, power over patriarchal paradigms. And

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<v Speaker 4>you have the Luxor Temple, which is just a testament

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<v Speaker 4>to Ramsy's the two Ramsm's too with his statue everywhere. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it is so symbolic. You can track the descending consciousness

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01:01:27.679 --> 01:01:31.519
<v Speaker 4>across the ages by going to those sites, and it's

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01:01:31.519 --> 01:01:36.440
<v Speaker 4>such a reminder that we really had higher consciousness in

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<v Speaker 4>those ancient times and we can come back to that now.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's interesting. It's a good point about those temples.

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<v Speaker 2>When you go there, they're radiating something. You know, you

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01:01:49.000 --> 01:01:53.199
<v Speaker 2>can feel it coming out of the ground, or they're

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<v Speaker 2>likely sitting on tolluric fields that are coming up. And

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<v Speaker 2>the ancients understand it had to tune a temple so

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<v Speaker 2>they it picks it up and then releases it in

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<v Speaker 2>some capacity.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely. I mean, ancient sacred sites were all built with

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01:02:11.960 --> 01:02:16.199
<v Speaker 4>there being underground water and often like the Great Pyramid,

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01:02:16.280 --> 01:02:18.920
<v Speaker 4>is at the intersection of two type four lay lines.

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<v Speaker 4>But I also love Ibraham Kareem's work. You probably know

798
01:02:24.519 --> 01:02:29.079
<v Speaker 4>his work in biogeometry and his study of ancient temple

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<v Speaker 4>science and how they consciously worked with sacred geometry and

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01:02:35.719 --> 01:02:39.440
<v Speaker 4>the structure of the temples to be emanating these energies.

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<v Speaker 4>So I like to tell the groups that I take there,

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<v Speaker 4>you're going to be transformed in these sites, whether you

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<v Speaker 4>know anything about them or not, because they're emanating these energies.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Are we in the Age of Aquarius or have

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<v Speaker 2>we just begun to enter that phase?

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<v Speaker 4>I believe that we have entered into the beginning of

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<v Speaker 4>the Age of Aquarius as of the end of twenty

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01:03:08.000 --> 01:03:13.639
<v Speaker 4>twenty four, and that we're in the transition time. So

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<v Speaker 4>we're still seeing the playing out of the paradigms of

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<v Speaker 4>the past, but we're also seeing this increasing energy guiding

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<v Speaker 4>us into new paradigms, into collaboration, into co creating new systems.

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<v Speaker 4>So we're in a liminal transition time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm of the age where you know, I'm here

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<v Speaker 2>in San Francisco and the hippie movement I thought was

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<v Speaker 2>the New Age. And I used to be a program

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<v Speaker 2>director for a national conference called the Whole Life, and

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01:03:47.920 --> 01:03:51.840
<v Speaker 2>we featured personal growth spirituality.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, can I remember that I used to be in California?

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<v Speaker 2>That's all right, Okay, good, Well, I mean we did

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<v Speaker 2>them all over the country, but not as big as

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<v Speaker 2>s Farrancisco. And I always thought that was the New Age.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that was the beginning of the Age of Aquarius.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think we were welcome, welcoming in, rather than

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<v Speaker 2>experiencing it.

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<v Speaker 4>Then that period was a time when Pluto and Uranus

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<v Speaker 4>were in a conjunction, which is one of the most

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<v Speaker 4>powerful transformational combinations. So I think it was calling us

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<v Speaker 4>into transformation, not quite ready yet for the new paradigms,

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<v Speaker 4>but really calling our attention to the dysfunction of the

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<v Speaker 4>paradigms and patterns that we've been caught in.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good point because there's a I remember this,

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01:04:40.960 --> 01:04:45.159
<v Speaker 2>there was a tremendous amount of pushback from the status

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<v Speaker 2>quo government, police, local people. What are you doing? What

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<v Speaker 2>are you You're shifting your contuit what Tim Lary, you

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<v Speaker 2>want to drop acid? What are you doing exactly exactly?

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<v Speaker 2>So in many ways, I think there were pioneers who

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<v Speaker 2>were sensing the changes that were coming and seeding that

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<v Speaker 2>in the collective consciousness, but the collective consciousness was not

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<v Speaker 2>ready to integrate it. And there's been a pleasure speaking

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<v Speaker 2>with you as we close, who as the readers reading

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<v Speaker 2>the book? What are you trying to get across to

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<v Speaker 2>the reader in this work of yours?

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<v Speaker 4>I think the most critical theme is if we can

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<v Speaker 4>see this larger perspective, if we can remember this larger

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<v Speaker 4>journey of our evolution as humanity, If we can then

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<v Speaker 4>heal from all the ways that we've gotten out of

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<v Speaker 4>balance individually and collectively, and the generational trauma that we've

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<v Speaker 4>been caught in, then we do have this opportunity to

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<v Speaker 4>move through a ratic transformation and into higher consciousness. That's

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<v Speaker 4>who we're meant to be. And I think this is

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<v Speaker 4>such an important time when we have the possibility of

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<v Speaker 4>waking up, healing and moving through this radical transformation. I

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<v Speaker 4>really believe that's possible.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that we didn't get into a great deal

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<v Speaker 2>about trauma, but there's an important lesson and an important

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<v Speaker 2>part of physiology when we release trauma, isn't it And

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<v Speaker 2>it's almost like in some cases an awakening. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 2>trauma has been removed, whatever level it is.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, which is a lot of way I got into

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<v Speaker 4>shamanic work. I realized psychotherapy can only take you so far,

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<v Speaker 4>and then you really need to do some things energetically

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<v Speaker 4>and beneath the level of the conscious mind to clear

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<v Speaker 4>those patterns and release the trauma. And I think part

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<v Speaker 4>of what we're caught in, as you may, I just

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<v Speaker 4>put out a video on my YouTube channel about this.

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<v Speaker 4>I think as we moved into the Collie Yuga, we

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<v Speaker 4>were experiencing some earth crises and earth changes that led

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<v Speaker 4>to a lot of trauma and a lot of fear

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<v Speaker 4>and a fear of death that I think led into

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<v Speaker 4>these aut of balance patterns that we've been in. I

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<v Speaker 4>think we've been in trauma coping patterns, survival, mentality, survival

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<v Speaker 4>of the fittest, conquer, be conquer, and that that's just

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<v Speaker 4>perpetuated trauma generation after generation, and that what's critical now

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<v Speaker 4>is that we see that and heal from that, because,

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<v Speaker 4>as you said, then once you bring that into conscious

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<v Speaker 4>awareness and clear it, you have such spaciousness then to

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<v Speaker 4>move into new patterns and move into much more healthy

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<v Speaker 4>ways of being.

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<v Speaker 2>Fantastic, real pleasure having you on the program. And before

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<v Speaker 2>we let you go, how can people learn more about you?

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<v Speaker 2>Give us your website and you said you had a

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<v Speaker 2>YouTube channel.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, so my primary website is Rising Moon Healing Center,

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<v Speaker 4>and I do have a YouTube channel under my name

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<v Speaker 4>where I try to talk about these themes and what's

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<v Speaker 4>going on astrologically.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, and no website.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll come on yeah, Rising Moon Healing Center.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Rising Moon said, okay, so all it's all has

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<v Speaker 2>the YouTube channel has the other aspects that you're working on,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's all well, they're all grounded in that one place. Heather,

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<v Speaker 2>much success, A real pleasure and great to have you

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<v Speaker 2>on the program.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, Cliff, It's been great to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to mention that I have been using AI

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<v Speaker 2>to reconstruct monuments, temples, buildings, even pyramids around the world,

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<v Speaker 2>and you can see these new AI reconstructed images on Facebook.

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<v Speaker 2>Go to Facebook, go to Earth Ancients. You can see

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<v Speaker 2>them also on Instagram and on the Earth Ancient's website.

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<v Speaker 2>This is something that is not only unique and is

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<v Speaker 2>being used by the scientific community slowly, but it's a

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<v Speaker 2>way to look at light our scans and see what

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<v Speaker 2>the original item is that has been picked up through

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<v Speaker 2>a scan, and I gotta tell you it is really

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<v Speaker 2>quite amazing. I gave a talk at a conference the

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<v Speaker 2>other day and used some new slides to present this

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<v Speaker 2>AI information and people were dumbfounded. And I gotta tell

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<v Speaker 2>you it's easier to think. And I'm a former graphic

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<v Speaker 2>artist and I'll tell you it takes time to create

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<v Speaker 2>really nice slides. These slides that were put out by

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<v Speaker 2>Claude AI were fabulous, fabulous. So that gets back to

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<v Speaker 2>my initial statement. I've been saying it for the last

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<v Speaker 2>few weeks. Begin playing with AI, and I say play

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<v Speaker 2>with it because you can use it for free to

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<v Speaker 2>a certain degree. Ask it questions. A good question would be,

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<v Speaker 2>say you want to you want to do a graphic

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<v Speaker 2>or an image of something. Use the word logo, say

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<v Speaker 2>you know, type in a prompt or a question or

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<v Speaker 2>a request. I would like to have a logo based

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<v Speaker 2>on my name, based on the street I live in,

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<v Speaker 2>based on my address, anything, and see what happens. You'll

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<v Speaker 2>be shocked at how amazingly powerful artificial intelligence is. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's gotten to the point now because it's growing exponentially

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<v Speaker 2>that if you don't learn the basics, you're gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>left behind. And it's not a competitive kind of thing

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<v Speaker 2>where you're looking at AI. I need to do it

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<v Speaker 2>for my work. You don't have to do it for anything.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have to. I mean, if you're retired, just

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<v Speaker 2>try it. Ask it questions, ask it to do something

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<v Speaker 2>to Ask it to compile a list of your ancestors.

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<v Speaker 2>Try that. Ask it to compile an understanding of cosmology

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<v Speaker 2>and give you bullet points for known ancient cultures like

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<v Speaker 2>the Maya, the Egyptians, the Celts, the Inca, I mean Chinese, anything,

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<v Speaker 2>and to see what happens. It takes all the known

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<v Speaker 2>knowledge and condenses it down to understandable content. It's just fabulous.

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<v Speaker 2>So check it out. So I think I mentioned a

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<v Speaker 2>week ago that I had reproduced the Ldonta pyramid complex

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<v Speaker 2>and Elmador, Guatemala. That is now updated. You can see

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<v Speaker 2>that on Cliff Dunning Facebook, or you can see it

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<v Speaker 2>on Earth Ancients with a bunch of other pyramid structures

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<v Speaker 2>that are available to see. It's fantastic and I urge

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<v Speaker 2>you to consider working with it so that you feel

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<v Speaker 2>comfortable because it's going to integrate in everything. It's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be attached to our refrigerators, it's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna probably be an auto automatons, which is another

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<v Speaker 2>word for robots. It's gonna be all over the place.

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<v Speaker 2>AI all right, that's it for this program. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to think my guest today, Heather Aims War, coming to

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<v Speaker 2>us from the East coast of the United States, as

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<v Speaker 2>always a team of guil tour, Mark Foster and fay

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<v Speaker 2>A Bavar. You guys rock all right, take care every

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<v Speaker 2>well and we will talk to you next time.

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