Speaker 1: No no, no, no no. Hello ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back
Speaker 1: to the Predator retrospective. This is the retrospective for Predator Too.
Speaker 1: I am King Willie tres Now and I'm joined by.
Speaker 2: El Scorpio, Broklynbetzer.
Speaker 3: I'm the rush Hour Rambo Taylor Field Taylor.
Speaker 4: I'm surprised you didn't take all Scorpio.
Speaker 2: I was surprised too. I had my notes, but I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: there's gonna be two people. I'm gonna enter the room.
Speaker 5: Both of you guys are gonna have it.
Speaker 6: No, it's good, but it's it's too It's too branded
Speaker 6: for me. I like, Bill Paxton's a highlight for me
Speaker 6: in this movie, and it was one of my favorite
Speaker 6: one liners.
Speaker 3: He drops Bill.
Speaker 1: Bill Paxton, who in this movie at the age of
Speaker 1: forty two is described as kid, which I got a
Speaker 1: good gigle lot of Danny glever Keet referring to him
Speaker 1: as a kid, and I looked at over Emily, I'm like,
Speaker 1: not saying he's old.
Speaker 4: The rest piece. Bill Paxson.
Speaker 1: Bill Paxson, you make a list of the top ten
Speaker 1: greatest character actors in the world. He's on there that
Speaker 1: guy fucking delivered it in every movie he was in.
Speaker 1: It only got to be killed by the Terminator as
Speaker 1: Xenamore fin a predator, very great honor and stuff, but
Speaker 1: like he always delivers one hundred percent. But when Anny
Speaker 1: Clever called him kid, I'm.
Speaker 3: Like, kid, he's a lone ranger and that's what he is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that doesn't mean anything with who he's referring
Speaker 1: to his age here, my.
Speaker 4: Kid, I'm like, give me a look. Like he was
Speaker 4: forty two during this movie.
Speaker 1: And granted Danny callersak nine years old of them, but kid,
Speaker 1: and like they were trying to play him up as
Speaker 1: like a young hot shot guy and kind of that.
Speaker 1: But when he was forty two, no, man, like he
Speaker 1: still had a little crow's feet there. But uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I got a good giggle out of that, and maybe
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Speaker 3: Like, hey, surveillance, this is my specialty. I was trying
Speaker 3: to work that in, but I couldn't pull it off.
Speaker 5: So I built.
Speaker 4: About sex scene that we got the ultra zoom into.
Speaker 2: You know, Oh my god, I'm like, like, what predator
Speaker 2: is about to be revealed here? No, it's just a
Speaker 2: woman ferociously boning.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was expecting titties either. That was a wild
Speaker 5: a little wild sign of phone.
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Speaker 1: excited to talk about uh, Joshua Wright's retrospective because when
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Speaker 1: a retrospective and he's picked the mister fantastic Fox or
Speaker 1: I always keep saying the fantastic mister Fox, so that I've.
Speaker 3: Never seen that. That's a little interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So in August we're gonna be doing that for
Speaker 1: him and you can go pick your movie there. But
Speaker 1: tonight we're talking about Predator too, so we'll we'll put
Speaker 1: the sex scene aside because we're definitely gonna jump to
Speaker 1: that right away.
Speaker 4: What I will say about.
Speaker 1: This movie because I feel like I'm the probably the
Speaker 1: most down at it, but I'm not down it. I
Speaker 1: still would I don't know if it's a six or something,
Speaker 1: still would pass it. But I think the differences between
Speaker 1: Predator and Predator two is they both kind of feel
Speaker 1: a little bit like a B movie, right, like a
Speaker 1: monster action just just monster versus man, gun toting girls swearing,
Speaker 1: big muscles, stuff like that. They have all these you know,
Speaker 1: cool moments. I feel like the first Predator is when
Speaker 1: you can see what happens when like a B movie
Speaker 1: monster movie is directed by like a great director, and
Speaker 1: this is when it's directed by a not so great director,
Speaker 1: and this feels it's it's a nineteen ninety seven movie,
Speaker 1: which is crazy because this is only two years away
Speaker 1: from the Matrix. It does not feel like it's that goes.
Speaker 1: This feels more like an eighties movie than The Predators
Speaker 1: in my opinion as far as like the quality of it.
Speaker 1: It feels so cheesy. But the thing is what I
Speaker 1: have with this movie, it's just fun. It's a good time.
Speaker 1: In all those classics, I feel like Taylor. You could
Speaker 1: like Kirkland too, but I feel like Taylor more so
Speaker 1: because we're big, like fends a lot of horror franchises
Speaker 1: like Michael Myers and Jason. This definitely feels like those
Speaker 1: later sequels in those franchisers, just like we're just gonna
Speaker 1: put Jason on a boat going to New York and
Speaker 1: he's gonna cause mayhem, right, And even then, the first
Speaker 1: Predator doesn't have that many storylines, but it has a
Speaker 1: little you know, interlinking story, has some great characters, and
Speaker 1: I think there's some entertaining characters here. It just does
Speaker 1: feel one hundred percent like this is always the lesser
Speaker 1: than of the first one, where like when we get
Speaker 1: to Predators, you can't even compare. You can obviously will
Speaker 1: rank them at the end, but you can't compare Predator
Speaker 1: Predators because there's such different movies and stuff. This is
Speaker 1: literally like we're gonna do a very similar movie but
Speaker 1: put it in New York City, the concrete jungle, stuff
Speaker 1: like that. So I enjoy the movie. I had a
Speaker 1: lot of fun. I think we're gonna have a lot
Speaker 1: of fun this retrospective. But you can definitely feel like
Speaker 1: it is a step down from the other one. And
Speaker 1: this is honestly, I think maybe like the time, have
Speaker 1: only seen this movie, and I think, do you guys
Speaker 1: ever remember back in the day on satellite TV there
Speaker 1: was something called like the Horror channeled or like the
Speaker 1: Horror Network, and they would just play like animated side
Speaker 1: or they just would play like horrns like horror, horror,
Speaker 1: sci fi movies, horror movies. Have you ever heard of this?
Speaker 1: It was just Canada exclusive or no. So my Grandm's on.
Speaker 2: Channel you said, like the Horror Channel. I'm like, I
Speaker 2: think I had access to some of those channels at.
Speaker 1: A certain well that was that, Yeah, that one of
Speaker 1: the scenes was from that too. That Hildings scene we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about, that's in the Horror Channel for sure.
Speaker 1: But the Horror Channel, yeah, you know, yeah, a lot
Speaker 1: of boys were aby repeating Predator too, like Mama want
Speaker 1: that for Christmas? Like fuck, like the Arnold movie didn't
Speaker 1: have some girl getting like and so here's the funny
Speaker 1: thing about that story quickly is I was watching this
Speaker 1: while the girls were around, but they were off in
Speaker 1: the kitchen playing stuff because I knew what this movie
Speaker 1: is gonna be. And even the first Predator there's some vines,
Speaker 1: but it's not that bad. You don't see the Predator.
Speaker 1: The kills are very quick, so I'm like, okay, And
Speaker 1: as I was referring to, I've I think it's my third,
Speaker 1: maybe second time full way through seeing this because I
Speaker 1: don't know where I am when we do the rank.
Speaker 1: Actually I think I know now, but at the time
Speaker 1: I would always rank this last. It's like I didn't
Speaker 1: want to return to that much. I like Danny Glover,
Speaker 1: I like Bill Pack. Somebody didn't have much reason to.
Speaker 1: But I had forgot a lot of this movie. And
Speaker 1: when they started on this building scene and this woman's
Speaker 1: just getting real, like actually she's not getting real. She's
Speaker 1: doing the rail lane and just the idea of it
Speaker 1: starts on the lawn. It's like The Dark Knight when
Speaker 1: the Jokers are on the bank, starts in the longest
Speaker 1: zoom way and zooms in like three times in the
Speaker 1: buildings before you can actually see the woman riding this
Speaker 1: man and then they just go aharkad And I just said, Emma,
Speaker 1: like look at this. She's like, yeah, I'm not doing
Speaker 1: that because like the what this woman's doing is not sex.
Speaker 1: She looks like she's physically attacking this man, like it's
Speaker 1: that classic where her hips are there's no penis there.
Speaker 1: She is just like thrusting herself into the guy's stomach.
Speaker 1: But she is like full It's a full porn scene,
Speaker 1: that whole and even when they stop it, she's it's
Speaker 1: full of front doal like and that's where feels so
Speaker 1: like just so even.
Speaker 4: More b rate like straight to DVD type of one.
Speaker 1: So I enjoy my time with it, but it's nowhere
Speaker 1: near the greatness of the first one. I know we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about that scene more, but I just had
Speaker 1: to tell my end, and because the second was that
Speaker 1: once I went the building, I hit the pause, Bunton,
Speaker 1: and my watching the Predator two was over until the
Speaker 1: kids were asleep, because I did not know how, and
Speaker 1: I was glad because it got worse from there that scene.
Speaker 1: But right when I say, oh, what are they zooming
Speaker 1: in on? And you hear some stuff and then you
Speaker 1: say like, Okay, nope, this is over. I'll wait till later.
Speaker 1: But that was my experience with Predator too. Kirka patsir.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this is the first time I've seen
Speaker 2: this movie. Honestly, a lot of it. Yeah was surprising,
Speaker 2: said nineteen ninety seven at the beginning, But I was
Speaker 2: shocked that this actually came out nineteen ninety It was
Speaker 2: just like it was doing that seven years in advance
Speaker 2: things that actually, yeah, yeah, that makes me feel better.
Speaker 1: That makes me feel better. Then this is not two
Speaker 1: years from the Matrix Center. Yeah, I feel better. It
Speaker 1: feels closer to an eighties movie. And now that explains
Speaker 1: it's only one year away, so you know what. Okay,
Speaker 1: thank you Crookling for that knowledge.
Speaker 4: I did not know that.
Speaker 2: But still it like like seven years in the future,
Speaker 2: like like why why that? Just because like I don't know,
Speaker 2: like was the nineties they had some gang violence maybe,
Speaker 2: and then they just predicted that, Oh, let's just say,
Speaker 2: in seven years is gonna be fallout war.
Speaker 5: And there's predators and stuff.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but nonetheless, yeah, So Predator one I
Speaker 2: had seen like like maybe on TV and didn't really
Speaker 2: remember much of the movie, but I know that i'd
Speaker 2: seen it. This one I definitely hadn't seen, and I
Speaker 2: was very very because I didn't look up at like
Speaker 2: any screenshots or anything. I didn't know if Arnie was
Speaker 2: in it or whatnot.
Speaker 5: So I went in.
Speaker 2: Extremely blind and it made it very very fun because
Speaker 2: it starts and it's like on the ground, like jungle
Speaker 2: music basically, So I'm like, Okay, where where's Arnie? You know,
Speaker 2: like does this start off right with him? And it
Speaker 2: just goes to like Los Angeles ninety nine seven. I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh okay, like this is like this.
Speaker 5: Is completely different.
Speaker 2: And then the radio is like uh And I'm not
Speaker 2: going to detail the whole movie, but right at the beginning,
Speaker 2: it's just like, oh yeah, los Angeles having a record
Speaker 2: high heat temperature. So I'm like, oh, okay, they're just
Speaker 2: this is why the Predators are.
Speaker 4: I'm prime for the Predator.
Speaker 2: And like, man, the first like ten minutes, like we
Speaker 2: were talking about quickly in the chat today, but man,
Speaker 2: first two ten minutes this episode or this episode, geez.
Speaker 5: This movie. What a ride that was.
Speaker 2: Like, first of all, great budget on like the pyrotechnics
Speaker 2: and just car explosions, Like there was so much going
Speaker 2: on in the first five minutes of this but my
Speaker 2: opinion looked really good. But absolute chaos hell Scorpio.
Speaker 5: Just take that line. Fuck.
Speaker 2: I love that gift Taylor that you you dropped in
Speaker 2: the chat today of him just doing the line and
Speaker 2: just having that like cycle look like ready to.
Speaker 4: Go and actually came to play. He was there like
Speaker 4: he did not phone it in.
Speaker 2: And that was that probably wasn't even like fake cocaine.
Speaker 2: That was that was the real deal with his reaction
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety.
Speaker 1: These people fought like Danny Glever when he's covered, then
Speaker 1: that's real coke.
Speaker 4: They just got that he walked on the set and
Speaker 4: they're like, just use this.
Speaker 2: But yeah, So all in all though, I had a
Speaker 2: really fun time watching this movie. I think I'm pretty
Speaker 2: positive on it, and I don't know if it's because
Speaker 2: I was able to really enjoy the cheesy stuff. Like
Speaker 2: when we were talking about the First Predator, I was saying, how, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's cheesy, but I feel like what makes it cheesy
Speaker 2: is that this was like the first big cheesy movie
Speaker 2: like this that like kind of just set where like
Speaker 2: where we are now. People like make fun of movies
Speaker 2: like what The Predator was, but like on its own,
Speaker 2: like that was just so grand breaking. You have Arnie
Speaker 2: and his prime like just dropping those one liners like
Speaker 2: when he throws the knife and just yeah, like like
Speaker 2: slice see yeah, I don't remember what it was, but
Speaker 2: it's like slice it around or something like that, And
Speaker 2: it was it was more of that, but in a
Speaker 2: different setting. I think on paper, I liked just I
Speaker 2: liked what was going on. I liked the idea of
Speaker 2: having a predator in the urban jungle, concrete jungle, as
Speaker 2: you mentioned, Travis, I think that's I think it was
Speaker 2: all really fun, definitely has problems, not a perfect movie
Speaker 2: by any means. I think the Predator himself looked really good,
Speaker 2: like in this movie, especially in the last one.
Speaker 5: What year is it nineteen eighty? Do you just saybody,
Speaker 5: I'll look it up.
Speaker 4: I think it's I think it's eighty four. Isn't it
Speaker 4: eighty four?
Speaker 5: Yeah, like it's it's seemed like.
Speaker 4: The eighty six. I think it's eighty six maybe.
Speaker 6: Like that, But.
Speaker 5: What do we say eighty seven. There you go, You're close.
Speaker 2: I don't know, like they just the practical like costume
Speaker 2: of the Predor looked really good in my opinion, especially
Speaker 2: jumping from the last movie.
Speaker 5: The invisibility still not quite where we are. We are
Speaker 5: in technically had to narrow down.
Speaker 2: But you know, like I think it's maybe better than
Speaker 2: the first one, but maybe not because it was shown
Speaker 2: a little bit less and in the first one, which
Speaker 2: gives it that intensity, but like a little bit more
Speaker 2: of his gadgets. Like I think all the stuff with
Speaker 2: the Predder was raised in this movie for me, whether
Speaker 2: it was him like hanging the bodies and stuff like that,
Speaker 2: that stuff.
Speaker 5: Was really good. So all in all, like I actually
Speaker 5: really enjoyed it.
Speaker 2: I'm expect I'm excited to talking about definitely some characters,
Speaker 2: like Bill Paxson's character. Man, some of the lines he
Speaker 2: was dropping, I had to just stop writing them down
Speaker 2: because I was writing down like some of these like
Speaker 2: quotable moments that he was having them, like this is
Speaker 2: just like everything he says is like a joke and
Speaker 2: like just this really cheesy quote thing or you know,
Speaker 2: like in the first movie, I did that one dude
Speaker 2: dropping like just dirty jokes, or when he was talking
Speaker 2: about like his girlfriends with Jina and how it was
Speaker 2: like echoeen Like it seemed like Bill Paxton was kind
Speaker 2: of like that character, just he had a little bit
Speaker 2: more than that throwing character.
Speaker 5: But I'll pass the Taylor because I was rambling there.
Speaker 3: But did I feel, oh, yeah, so this movie is.
Speaker 6: It's It's definitely uh a classic like memory for me,
Speaker 6: nostalgia wise, because I remember when I didn't want to
Speaker 6: get into the Aliens yet, but I was talking to
Speaker 6: my dad like, let's get into the pret Ors, like
Speaker 6: I want to know about it because my dad just said,
Speaker 6: tell me about them. And so got into the movie
Speaker 6: the first movie that was great, and then the second
Speaker 6: one was already out, so okay, let's get into the
Speaker 6: second one. And went to the movie store rented it,
Speaker 6: and uh, I think it was for my birthday. I
Speaker 6: was still pretty We rented on VHS acts specifically, and
Speaker 6: oh my god, yeah, that was.
Speaker 5: Getting giddy for your story.
Speaker 6: That was just wild because it's so different from the
Speaker 6: first one in terms of like what's going on, because yeah,
Speaker 6: this woman is just going full animal on this.
Speaker 3: I was waiting for just me and my dad. Just
Speaker 3: me and my dad's like.
Speaker 1: My parents to separate this movie.
Speaker 4: Yeah, dad, it was like, we got.
Speaker 3: To show it to me. My mom didn't want me
Speaker 3: to see it, so they just split. They divorced. But yeah,
Speaker 3: it's just it has.
Speaker 6: So many things in it that I really really love,
Speaker 6: but it's for me. It's not it's not comparable like
Speaker 6: to the first one.
Speaker 3: It's definitely below it. I'd have to say that it's
Speaker 3: just it's granted. But sorry, no, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say I thought that I had
Speaker 2: while watching it was like, like, I because I like the.
Speaker 5: Idea of the concrete jungle it.
Speaker 2: I feel like it would have fit more if this
Speaker 2: was like the Fourth Predator, you know, like like you
Speaker 2: know when you have like The Friday and the Fourth Predator.
Speaker 5: Okay, well I don't know about that one.
Speaker 4: You no, you have you've seen the Fourth Predator. It's
Speaker 4: called the Predator.
Speaker 5: Oh the Predator.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the fourth one that's back Suburban Okay, fair.
Speaker 4: Enough, I guess so, I guess so.
Speaker 1: But we saw that just because they're back in the
Speaker 1: movie or the town doesn't mean we're getting good stuff, you.
Speaker 2: Know, Like Taylor was saying, though, is like the first
Speaker 2: one is just so it's so hard to compete with
Speaker 2: because that first concept of just like the jungle, like
Speaker 2: these gorilla or like Vietnam type fighters, like they just
Speaker 2: really fit what that first Predator was, whereas I felt
Speaker 2: like it was just a big jump to all of
Speaker 2: a sudden just go to Los Angeles in the second movie,
Speaker 2: I was gonna compare it to like, uh, like Friday
Speaker 2: the Thirteenth when Jason's just all of a sudden like
Speaker 2: in New York randomly like he's not.
Speaker 4: We talked about that when you're chasing after Marcoing.
Speaker 2: Okay, yes, but uh but yeah, sir, sorry, it was
Speaker 2: just the thought that I had, well I was watching. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was just like I feel like this should have
Speaker 2: happened later, Like I feel like maybe I should have
Speaker 2: had some more jungle comment.
Speaker 6: But the whole beginning part of this movie, Like again,
Speaker 6: I like how they set it up, like, oh, we're gonna.
Speaker 3: Get back into Amazon jungle what not?
Speaker 6: Because they show you like the forest and music, and
Speaker 6: all of a sudden, like boom, they show you the
Speaker 6: city and I got I got sick because that, Wow,
Speaker 6: this is cool, like concrete jungle like this is great
Speaker 6: gang wars and everything.
Speaker 3: What's up?
Speaker 1: I just imagine the one person had no idea what
Speaker 1: this being, like, fuck real back to juggle hell yeah,
Speaker 1: and then just switches the loss and listening.
Speaker 4: You're like, fuck.
Speaker 5: In a good way.
Speaker 2: In a good way though, Well that was yeah, that
Speaker 2: was my reaction, but without like a pro like a
Speaker 2: like a puzz of negative.
Speaker 5: It was just like, oh, this and this is what
Speaker 5: we're doing here.
Speaker 1: And finally, in twenty twenty, after what the one came
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty seven, nearly like forty years, we're finally
Speaker 1: going back to like a jungle type predator versus a
Speaker 1: great and I guess you can kind of count predators
Speaker 1: by don't because that's on a fucking planet a predator.
Speaker 4: So it's like that's very sci fi. Where this next
Speaker 4: one like it's.
Speaker 1: Kind of weird that pray it took all this time
Speaker 1: and we're actually kind of going back to like a
Speaker 1: jungle wooded area with no like we're going back there,
Speaker 1: and look how long it took to get back there.
Speaker 4: You think they would have done that already and they hadn't.
Speaker 6: So well, they did it in different ways, like a
Speaker 6: VP two specifically of that.
Speaker 4: Those are not cannon, those are.
Speaker 3: No those are canon.
Speaker 6: Officially, the Predator officially indoctrinates into Cannon.
Speaker 4: What does that mean the Predator and do in the canon.
Speaker 6: The Predator had east eggs in there that directly tie
Speaker 6: into a VP's timeline.
Speaker 5: I thought we.
Speaker 1: Talked about like before the Drugg was like, yeah, that
Speaker 1: those movies aren't to do with this one.
Speaker 6: I'll do This isn't spoiler, but in the Predator, when
Speaker 6: you see the display case, you see the actual spear
Speaker 6: that the Predator and a VP made for the survivor
Speaker 6: humans of the check.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it ties into those that timeline.
Speaker 1: I can't wait till we get those alien and then
Speaker 1: these and you know what, because Disney owns them both,
Speaker 1: fucking run it back. Let's give us a third a VP,
Speaker 1: give the like you can't do it, let's do it.
Speaker 1: Let's get fucking wild here and know what they're gonna do.
Speaker 1: They're gonna do in a fucking comic book and that's
Speaker 1: the best you'll get.
Speaker 4: But Disney, come on, put on fucking Hulu, let's go.
Speaker 4: Let's let's stop fucking around.
Speaker 3: So this the level of like one to one hundred.
Speaker 6: When this movie kick starts is just nuts because you
Speaker 6: get predator vision.
Speaker 3: He's scoping out the sights.
Speaker 6: And he's like checking out, Like okay, so we're in
Speaker 6: with the preadtor's perspective. He's looking first hunt. We're already
Speaker 6: familiar without the predator is moving very fast, so we
Speaker 6: were familiar with everything that's gonna like in terms of
Speaker 6: predator stuff, We're familiar.
Speaker 5: We know is m O.
Speaker 6: So I like that they just give us predator right
Speaker 6: up the hop and just give us absolute all out
Speaker 6: fucking war. Scorpions are doing fucking cocaine, They're shooting.
Speaker 3: Up the streets all at war.
Speaker 6: These cops are bleeding out on the road, and here
Speaker 6: comes uh, Lieutenant Harrigan. He just throws some fucking bulletproof
Speaker 6: vests on his car, takes his door off, and just
Speaker 6: fucking goes in there like a badass.
Speaker 4: Like impressed he was.
Speaker 3: He was very impressed.
Speaker 4: Preer was turned on. He's like, fuck, I can't want
Speaker 4: to fight this guy.
Speaker 6: Oh he just wants to look at his skull and
Speaker 6: everything like he's just all over that.
Speaker 3: So just it was just.
Speaker 6: One to one hundred, just all the excitement and just
Speaker 6: like the thrill, the fight and all that jazz, and
Speaker 6: there's so many just subtle moments of the Predator, and
Speaker 6: I'll just kind of like round off my thoughts here
Speaker 6: of this intro. The one scene where the Scorpion is
Speaker 6: like he's so fucked up on cocaine and he's on
Speaker 6: the roof and he's like looking at Erican's like approaching
Speaker 6: him like freeze, asshole, and he's like the scorpions looking
Speaker 6: around this two mac tents, totally coked out of his
Speaker 6: fucking mind. And then when he sees the Predator jump
Speaker 6: and his reaction like he just works his fucking Mac
Speaker 6: tens up. And yeah, Don Glover, sorry, Denny Glove, We're
Speaker 6: just the names are so close. Danny Glever just fucking
Speaker 6: lights him up and just drops him when he falls.
Speaker 6: And it gets me every fucking time. The way they
Speaker 6: film that scene where his head just comes up. I
Speaker 6: always say, this fucker coked out, he survived, just brace
Speaker 6: the impact. But no, it's just the hand picking them up.
Speaker 6: But the movie just it's it's very nostalgic and it'll
Speaker 6: stand for more reasons that I'll explain as we progress
Speaker 6: through this retro.
Speaker 4: Well, there you go. Let's take our first ad break
Speaker 4: and then we're gonna continue talking about prother Or too,
Speaker 4: so we'll be right back and we're back.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I want to start the hotel scene because
Speaker 1: that's where we saw the apartment sex scene, because we've
Speaker 1: already talked about it. I shared my portion of it.
Speaker 1: But again, you guys talk about the movie ramping up
Speaker 1: two hundred. It does like at the beginning and then
Speaker 1: they like cool down for a little bit. You're Danny
Speaker 1: Glover's meeting his new partner, this and that, but then
Speaker 1: anytime action is around, it just goes tenfold. All the
Speaker 1: fucking train scene we're gonna talk about later, this scene
Speaker 1: right here ending.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 1: I thought the predator fight with Arnold was long. This ending, man,
Speaker 1: it's just such an extended set piece.
Speaker 4: But this this whole like apartment hotel killing, whatever it
Speaker 4: may be. Man, what a what a what a scene?
Speaker 1: All of it was, from starting with this this ferocious
Speaker 1: sex scene, to the gang coming in to doing voodoo
Speaker 1: and the predators comes in and he just fucking destroys everybody,
Speaker 1: and you got lots of naked people, you got the
Speaker 1: naked do hang upside down. This woman, like I said,
Speaker 1: She's just fully nude, head to toe, full frontal for
Speaker 1: like five minutes. She's just running around nude and whatnot.
Speaker 1: And that tells you everything you need to know about
Speaker 1: this movie. If I was to like summarize the movie,
Speaker 1: one just watched this scene and that's what the movie's like,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 5: Voodoo magic Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was That was a wild scene honestly for
Speaker 2: obviously how it how would open, but also just what followed,
Speaker 2: like with just like the what were they called, like
Speaker 2: the Jamaican Voodoo Gang whatever the hell?
Speaker 5: I think they had a different name.
Speaker 2: But something close that was their name, that gang or something,
Speaker 2: so like that crew. It was just a momentere I'm
Speaker 2: like I had to like remind myself this is a
Speaker 2: Predator movie, Like it just felt like very separate of
Speaker 2: a plot of like this is just gang Wars. Like
Speaker 2: we're not even where I watch a pro movie. It's
Speaker 2: like the Predator is just viewing Gang Wars. Like there's
Speaker 2: so many different uh, gangs and factions that have already
Speaker 2: been introduced, like up until it's or up until because
Speaker 2: like how how far into the movie do you think
Speaker 2: this was happened? In this ravage sex scene, like first
Speaker 2: half an hour ten minutes.
Speaker 4: No, it's not the first ten minutes.
Speaker 5: No, I think there's a tailor he started on that scene.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because this movie is like an hour. It's like
Speaker 4: two hours, right, I feel like it's about forty minutes
Speaker 4: in the sex scene.
Speaker 3: Yeah, our forty forty minutes. No.
Speaker 4: I just remember pausing and being like, oh, this is
Speaker 4: how much I have left or something. If it's not
Speaker 4: forty minutes, it's more what it's gonna bring it up.
Speaker 4: He has it on his av repeat. He's like just
Speaker 4: hang on, still playing in the background, but it's still going. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's one of those movies where, uh, when you hear
Speaker 1: some movies that kind of went down the wrong path
Speaker 1: where they wrote it as one movie and then they
Speaker 1: like took the script and like, oh, this could be
Speaker 1: a predator movie, like let's add the Predator in here.
Speaker 4: There's definitely times where it feels like that where this
Speaker 4: could have been a separate movie, like, well, we could.
Speaker 1: Add the Predator to this, and they do that because
Speaker 1: this seemed the middle like there's tension going on, nothing
Speaker 1: to do with the predator, but out of like all
Speaker 1: the places, the Predator's just hanging out in this you know,
Speaker 1: apartment building or host or whatever you want to call it,
Speaker 1: and he's just in the shafts, and I guess this
Speaker 1: is where he wanted to get his next kill.
Speaker 4: Like maybe there's a plot point that I missed of
Speaker 4: how he got there.
Speaker 1: But obviously, just like, okay, he needs to go around
Speaker 1: and kill people, and I will see he gets some
Speaker 1: brutal kills. There's one point, my favorite kill that is
Speaker 1: he like backclaws a dude and he like throws them against.
Speaker 4: The wall and it was violent. He's like and he
Speaker 4: went right there.
Speaker 1: There's some violent stuff, and this predator was not messing around.
Speaker 1: He dispatched these people quickly and viciously.
Speaker 5: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: Uh, Like I was talking about, I just like the
Speaker 2: Predator more in this movie versus the last one, just
Speaker 2: because we're getting more of them, Like we're getting more
Speaker 2: close ups.
Speaker 5: Like the costume looks really good.
Speaker 2: It doesn't look like I was really railing on that
Speaker 2: one scene when he's first dating himself and it just
Speaker 2: like it just looked like he had like a first
Speaker 2: day from Lendon drugs, you know, and he's just like
Speaker 2: in this movie too. Yeah, but you know, I think
Speaker 2: I had a pass because it didn't it didn't clearly
Speaker 2: look like these plastic like fingers like like just moving
Speaker 2: because there's like clearly just a suit. Like it looked
Speaker 2: pretty damn good, and we just got more gadgets from him,
Speaker 2: like in general, like we finally got like that blade
Speaker 2: which didn't look the best, like the saw blade that
Speaker 2: he throws. I I know specifically it's an AVP because
Speaker 2: I remember using in that one. And again, I haven't
Speaker 2: seen that movie in a long time, so go easy
Speaker 2: on me, but I remember it looking pretty damn good,
Speaker 2: and just like his overall weapons in this one, I
Speaker 2: thought looked really good too, and specifically that net that
Speaker 2: is a really iconic one for me. Like it's just
Speaker 2: when he when he like just squishes you and then
Speaker 2: it just like pushes and yeah, like when it's just
Speaker 2: like oh, it's so brutal, Yeah, and it's so funny.
Speaker 2: Like I feel like I've seen AVP like twenty two times,
Speaker 2: Like all my predater knowledge is mostly from that movie.
Speaker 2: I'm not realizing how little just specific predator knowledge I
Speaker 2: have because like I said, like this is the first
Speaker 2: time I'm seeing the second one. I really didn't know
Speaker 2: the first one, Like I thought I did so, but
Speaker 2: uh yeah, so the voodoo magic stuff. When when the
Speaker 2: gang came in, it was just like the dude's doing
Speaker 2: like a blood sacrifice, like he's doing like.
Speaker 5: A symbol on the dude's chest and he's just like
Speaker 5: it's not enough. I gotta take your soul.
Speaker 2: It's just like, holy shit, okay, we're doing DoD some
Speaker 2: blood cult rituals and you just got like the full
Speaker 2: naked chick right there.
Speaker 5: Like it was just a weird dynamic.
Speaker 2: But I will say like the after math chaos, like Travis,
Speaker 2: you're mentioning some of the combat in that sequence of
Speaker 2: him just fucking up the gang members, Like that was
Speaker 2: all really fun for me. And when the cops come
Speaker 2: to investigate it afterwards. I love how they enter like
Speaker 2: the room and there's just bodies like everywhere, Like it's
Speaker 2: just it's one of those things where if you put
Speaker 2: yourself in the shoes of those cops, like entering that room,
Speaker 2: like what the fuck happened here?
Speaker 5: Like like we.
Speaker 4: They think it's this is part of the food they.
Speaker 2: Do, yeah, and it's it's just like a hell house
Speaker 2: like seeing you know, and like or even earlier on,
Speaker 2: like when they first kind of experienced The Predator when
Speaker 2: when El Scorpio is running from and there's just that
Speaker 2: body like hanging on the roof. It's just like, what
Speaker 2: could really be doing this?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 2: And I think that pattern is just really interesting for me,
Speaker 2: and something that is always.
Speaker 5: Or let me rephrase that.
Speaker 2: Something I love about The Predators is like the initial
Speaker 2: when when the humans are just like seeing like his work,
Speaker 2: like seeing like the body's just hanging there, or like
Speaker 2: seeing the first head that's just like ripped off, and
Speaker 2: it's just like, what the fuck are we dealing with here?
Speaker 2: So I really like that portion, even though it started
Speaker 2: very very weird, very very bizarre, and we have like
Speaker 2: World War five going on.
Speaker 5: The start of this movie.
Speaker 1: It's just a collection of set pieces which I still
Speaker 1: all enjoy, but it's like the war gangs there. We
Speaker 1: talked about the train one, which I think the train
Speaker 1: one's one of the better ones. You got this sex
Speaker 1: scene into the voodoo thing. You have the very awkward
Speaker 1: scene to me of I like it of King Willie
Speaker 1: and Danny Glover meeting in the alleyway and Danny Glover
Speaker 1: leaves and then five seconds.
Speaker 4: Later King Willy's fighting the Predator. Like it's just super
Speaker 4: odd and it's like it's so weird, like he hears him,
Speaker 4: he sees the invisible thing.
Speaker 1: They're getting ready to fight, and I I love the
Speaker 1: transition but we we didn't gonna fight.
Speaker 4: But I love the transition where he's just screaming and
Speaker 4: they hard cut to his head with his mouth open
Speaker 4: to look like he screamed, but it's not. It's actually
Speaker 4: his head cut off.
Speaker 3: So it is.
Speaker 4: Good, but I wish I don't know what. It just
Speaker 4: feels like they were setting up for like a huge
Speaker 4: fight and then no, just cut. He fucking destroyed King Willie,
Speaker 4: even the whole third act of No, we know these
Speaker 4: things are aliens and we got to take him down.
Speaker 4: Where even then I hate like it's classic metrope. They
Speaker 4: don't want to kill the predator that.
Speaker 1: They want to study the predators, like okay, but that's
Speaker 1: another piece of we're gonna have a rain and ice
Speaker 1: and stuff.
Speaker 4: So it just felt like they had.
Speaker 1: Let's put the predator in New York whatever, concrete jungle.
Speaker 1: Uh are some cool set pieces, okay, there there there,
Speaker 1: And then I feel like, lastly, it's like what are
Speaker 1: the characters or plotlines? Like oh, we could add a
Speaker 1: rookie here, a young guy who was forty two. We
Speaker 1: can add you know, this voodoom mafia thing. We can
Speaker 1: add Gary Busey, And they're like, for a simple movie,
Speaker 1: there's so much fucking shit going on. We can add
Speaker 1: Gary Busey, who is like just going around and the
Speaker 1: whole movie. I feel like I felt like I knew
Speaker 1: this kind of remembering it, but in the first time,
Speaker 1: it's just like, you know, he's kind of not trying
Speaker 1: to help out, but you know he has some sort
Speaker 1: of he's not just Danny Glover effect. Anytimes he sees
Speaker 1: Gary Busey or the other guy's helping Gary Busey. That's
Speaker 1: a part of the alien things. Yeah, he just like
Speaker 1: fucking grabs him by the college like you what to
Speaker 1: fuck with me?
Speaker 4: You want to? Like you want to Like it's just
Speaker 4: like he just is so violent and he's just so
Speaker 4: like up in their face.
Speaker 1: And they reveal like, oh, we're here to like take
Speaker 1: down this alien thread or look into it and stuff
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 4: But again, there's so much going off. The gangs, the partners,
Speaker 4: Danny Glove or the predators, the alien like kind of
Speaker 4: research team and stuff like that. There is so many storylines.
Speaker 1: But the good thing is these people get killed off
Speaker 1: pretty quick, so you don't have to deal with these storylines.
Speaker 6: You know, true Keys didn't hold back when Harrigan would
Speaker 6: lose his shit on him, like, you keep getting my way,
Speaker 6: you're gonna turn up missing.
Speaker 3: Just fucking drops.
Speaker 4: Who turns up missing? That's what I feel like. That
Speaker 4: makes sense.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you were talking about the technology there a little
Speaker 6: bit of the Predator. Kirkland, I am so in love
Speaker 6: with that. That's one of the big things for me
Speaker 6: with Preader hunting grounds. When they brought the Jungle or
Speaker 6: the City Hunter, they added all his his gizmos and gadgets,
Speaker 6: and he's just he's so cool because when he's fighting
Speaker 6: in the penthouse he whips out his spears the first
Speaker 6: time we see that. We get to see the net
Speaker 6: gun and all these cool new things that we didn't
Speaker 6: see in the first movie. And this Predator was just
Speaker 6: one that felt so much more like younger obviously and
Speaker 6: just more decked out with what he was operating with.
Speaker 6: He had a plasma caster from his gauntlet, which was
Speaker 6: super cool. He had his blade, he had like the
Speaker 6: metal shooter thing, and that came out of his gauntlet
Speaker 6: as well, like he was just, yeah, well up, why do.
Speaker 5: You say obviously younger? Like what what about?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was wondering.
Speaker 3: I can't remember where a Beard I was.
Speaker 6: I was in the forums though, but I remember deep
Speaker 6: in the forums that he is a younger Preadator than
Speaker 6: the first one.
Speaker 5: Was obviously younger than like if you had to go
Speaker 5: deep into.
Speaker 6: The forums, Yeah, that's like how many like coils are
Speaker 6: on his dreadlocks or whatever.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'll look.
Speaker 6: Up when someone else goes I look up where I
Speaker 6: saw that information. But no, he It's just I love
Speaker 6: this preader so so much, just with what he's capable
Speaker 6: of and what he's doing, and yeah, his weaponry when
Speaker 6: he's like healing his hand and he has like the
Speaker 6: little like like remote pedical thing that just shoots the
Speaker 6: flame and he's like got the wrong Like he breaks
Speaker 6: the mirror, crumples that up and then pours his blue
Speaker 6: ooze on it and makes this like thing.
Speaker 3: It's so cool because like what is he doing and it.
Speaker 2: Gets like I was shitting on the one from the
Speaker 2: last movie. It's it's still first aid, kid, but it
Speaker 2: just it looks a little more alien, you know, he's
Speaker 2: got a cool carrying for it. And then like you mentioned,
Speaker 2: Taylor's doing actually some chemistry. He's burning some things, putting
Speaker 2: some weird goo on there with the glass. So I
Speaker 2: think that's why it was a little bit better for me.
Speaker 2: It's one of those things that it's just like they
Speaker 2: still feel like they have to just show off that
Speaker 2: he's very resourceful. The predators are that, like I understand
Speaker 2: that's that's a trade of theirs. There's a couple other
Speaker 2: like predator characteristics that I feel like I never really noticed.
Speaker 2: They shined in the last movie, and they they tripled
Speaker 2: on it this movie. It's it feels it's like just
Speaker 2: too quickly, you know, shout it out. I like, I
Speaker 2: think it's like the mocking aspect of it when he
Speaker 2: just like learns like like come get the candy, you know,
Speaker 2: like they like he just learns how to like fuck
Speaker 2: with the psyche of.
Speaker 4: It.
Speaker 5: It's very weird.
Speaker 1: He may know because when he learns a kid, they're like, okay,
Speaker 1: at some point he's gonna say it to some adults
Speaker 1: like lure him out, almost like the first one where
Speaker 1: he got the phrase he said and the guy like
Speaker 1: turn and then they got him trapped. You already have
Speaker 1: Bill packs and dead's the rights. He's up against the
Speaker 1: door just like you want some candy. Like very strange,
Speaker 1: very strange choice that made little sense.
Speaker 2: And like I feel like I didn't realize that they
Speaker 2: ever did that because again, like I've never seen this one.
Speaker 5: I vaguely remember the first one.
Speaker 2: All my memories kind of come from a VP, and
Speaker 2: I feel like they don't talk in that one at all.
Speaker 2: I'm probably wrong, but I feel like they don't. It
Speaker 2: just seems like they only really do it to taunt them.
Speaker 2: Actually no, sorry, Like you mentioned Travis the scene in
Speaker 2: the last movie, like he actually did it to like
Speaker 2: distract the guy, you know, to like change his focus.
Speaker 2: So it has some use there, But it's just certain
Speaker 2: traits that the predators have. It's just like I kind
Speaker 2: of wish they didn't have it where they just feel
Speaker 2: the need to just like, yeah, just come get the
Speaker 2: candy or like you know, like I felt like a
Speaker 2: lot of Bill Paxson's characters lines that were so corny
Speaker 2: and cheesy. I was waiting for the predator to actually
Speaker 2: take one of them, like come to Daddy or like
Speaker 2: one of those lines or.
Speaker 5: The what was the other one?
Speaker 2: Like a butt buddy when we was talking about the
Speaker 2: or what was that? I wrote down the butt boys?
Speaker 1: But I wish he took, you know line I wish
Speaker 1: she took. I wish she took Dany Glover's line of
Speaker 1: you're ripping my dick off and shoving up my asshole. Now, okay,
Speaker 1: what do you want to say, Taylor?
Speaker 3: No, keep going, keep going?
Speaker 4: Okay that I know that was not the specific one,
Speaker 4: because I think it's just you're tearing off my dick
Speaker 4: and shoved my ass What a fucking expression? Like what
Speaker 4: like like that almost as beats the whole blade, like
Speaker 4: sometimes some motherfucker's just kind of trying to ice skate
Speaker 4: up hill, but like, you're shoving my dick. So you're
Speaker 4: tearing you're ripping my dick off and shoving up my
Speaker 4: ass What imagery? What a scenario being And I'm definitely
Speaker 4: gonna take that in the future and use that because
Speaker 4: that who thought of that line? Who thought that?
Speaker 1: I'm using it as not even respect like because it's
Speaker 1: like so bad, it's so good. But there was another one.
Speaker 1: I didn't appreciate them doing this moment. This is where
Speaker 1: it felt like bad sequel. So at the end when
Speaker 1: the mask comes off. Uh, there's two things that he
Speaker 1: called them. One, Danny Clever call him pussy face, and
Speaker 1: then they like literally like zoom in kind of on
Speaker 1: the prayer's mouth to emphasize like, look, it looks like
Speaker 1: a pussy face, like that was a choice. But the
Speaker 1: other one is when the mask comes off, he repeats
Speaker 1: the Arnold line. He says, you're a one ugly and
Speaker 1: then the predator pushes him off and says, motherfucker. I
Speaker 1: didn't know if I needed Predator saying motherfucker like that
Speaker 1: in the speech, and I didn't appreciate that. And uh,
Speaker 1: I didn't appreciate the motherfucker either in that moment.
Speaker 2: So yeah, they're really just trying to repeat that line
Speaker 2: from the first one.
Speaker 5: Yes and says at this.
Speaker 4: Time, what if he says, this time that's the writing room.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Fuck, Like I feel like I passed it in the
Speaker 2: first one because it's like this is the first Predator,
Speaker 2: Like I'm expecting to get these cheesy lines, but them
Speaker 2: just holding onto this moment. It's not even Arnie that
Speaker 2: does it. You know, no disrespect to Danny Glover, but
Speaker 2: he's not Arnie.
Speaker 4: So and I liked any Glover, but no one could
Speaker 4: be Arnie.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, no one could be Ernie. If the
Speaker 5: pressures say the line, then it's still it still rubs
Speaker 5: me the wrong way.
Speaker 2: Honestly, anytime the Predator's like saying words, I think I
Speaker 2: would have liked it better if he just had like
Speaker 2: an audio to a vice that would like record specific.
Speaker 5: That's probably how he's doing it, isn't it. Or actually no,
Speaker 5: because he said motherfucker without his masks, so that's not
Speaker 5: he learned.
Speaker 4: The word motherfucker?
Speaker 1: Is that how much I swear in Los Angeles, New York?
Speaker 1: They were in LA right, that's where they were. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's how much I swear in Los Angeles. The predator
Speaker 1: learned motherfucker.
Speaker 6: It wouldn't take long to learn motherfucker if you're there,
Speaker 6: I mean.
Speaker 4: English.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but you drop in on a bunch of like
Speaker 6: scorpion guys doing cocaine and like I mean.
Speaker 4: And can learn English.
Speaker 6: Now, well, predators can always learn English. We learned that
Speaker 6: in the first movie.
Speaker 4: But he didn't. He have the mask with that nod,
Speaker 4: remember he did that terrible laugh. Well, that's what's.
Speaker 5: Weird to me.
Speaker 2: Because not only does he learn the language, but he
Speaker 2: literally repeats the line like exactly.
Speaker 5: It's like he's mystique, like he's the.
Speaker 1: First or he's the first predator that went through that
Speaker 1: experience Arnold survive. And then he's gonna like say, oh,
Speaker 1: you do you mean like the cannon line to the
Speaker 1: motherfucker line.
Speaker 2: I'm saying all the lines because it sounds like he
Speaker 2: copies the voice of the person that he's that like.
Speaker 2: It's it's it's like he's mystique, like like he sounds
Speaker 2: like a kid when you want piece of candy. And
Speaker 2: that's why I always thought it was like an audio
Speaker 2: an audio recording thing, but no, they just they have
Speaker 2: this thing that they can just and again that's a power.
Speaker 5: I wish the kind of didn't have. I liked their look.
Speaker 2: I don't need them to talk the roar that they
Speaker 2: couldn't do like that would just be more menacing.
Speaker 1: But what you guys were talking about his first ave
Speaker 1: mad stuff. I forgot to put that out that one.
Speaker 1: Just imagine your next door and you hear this fucking
Speaker 1: predator screaming and man, what a terrible I'm moving on
Speaker 1: that scenario, but that was great the screams. They had
Speaker 1: that predator like yelling when he was like first a
Speaker 1: himself man. That felt brutal and it was like it
Speaker 1: was loud and.
Speaker 4: Again just cool.
Speaker 1: He's like breaking the apartment, he's getting a little holes
Speaker 1: to do stuff. He's looking for pad And then I
Speaker 1: really like that because I thought I kind of counted
Speaker 1: him out, but he felt that bailing was still in it,
Speaker 1: you know, and then he had he had to. He
Speaker 1: still kind of dies like a bit later, but I
Speaker 1: appreciate they kept trying. He had a lot of the
Speaker 1: green blood around him, and I liked that the green
Speaker 1: blood gone on Danny Glover too. A couple scenes he
Speaker 1: like had that glowing off him.
Speaker 4: But uh, predator still kind of went I won't say
Speaker 4: like a bitch, but I feel like he.
Speaker 1: Went one v one with Danny Glover, and Danny Glover
Speaker 1: beat him, you know, in his own ship. So that's
Speaker 1: kind of I don't think they're gonna honor him the
Speaker 1: past predator life whoever this predator is, you.
Speaker 2: Know, and that and then also in that scene when
Speaker 2: you have like the lady like her, there's someone in
Speaker 2: her bathroom and then the predator gets out of there.
Speaker 2: Fucking kicks down the door like on this lady basically,
Speaker 2: and then you just see like sprint to the front door.
Speaker 2: I'm spitting all over my monitor because that's a badly
Speaker 2: I'm laugh right now. But he just like kicks down
Speaker 2: and he doesn't just kick down the door. It's like
Speaker 2: the fucking wall around the door. He just kicks down
Speaker 2: and he just runs out of there. I literally left
Speaker 2: outloud when that happened. It's just it's so I think
Speaker 2: the shock factor really just pushed her over the edge
Speaker 2: for the comedy there. It was just expecting has.
Speaker 1: A lot of shock value where you're just saying, like,
Speaker 1: did that just happen? And it usually does absolutely answers yes,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I feel like when I said we were
Speaker 4: talking about some stuff, you had your hand up and
Speaker 4: then we never came back.
Speaker 6: Yes, I got some answers for you guys. So I
Speaker 6: knew I was the the xeno Pedia here. So the
Speaker 6: Jungle Hunter was a like a older you know blooded
Speaker 6: that was going about.
Speaker 4: Right now we're talking about because younger because.
Speaker 6: You wanted to know what was how I knew the
Speaker 6: City Hunter was younger or older. So the Jungle Hunter you're.
Speaker 5: Stuck on this ship with us Trouse. He was referred to.
Speaker 3: As where's the name? L diablo q has de los hombres.
Speaker 3: So that's what they.
Speaker 6: Referenced in the first that's what they referenced in the
Speaker 6: first name that was uh, Leona, I think, yeah, Leona.
Speaker 3: The lady in that that's said.
Speaker 4: No, no, not Leona.
Speaker 6: She was in preditor to the lady from the first Predder.
Speaker 6: She references that name to the jungle hunter because he's
Speaker 6: a reoccurring local and that keeps hunting there for the
Speaker 6: seasons when it gets really hot and then he kills.
Speaker 3: Now in the city hunter, Uh.
Speaker 6: He is a newly blooded city hunter and this was
Speaker 6: his first off world hunt that was on Earth. He
Speaker 6: sure failed, so that's why he was so proud of.
Speaker 3: He got a lot of trophies.
Speaker 4: I don't think. So that's like saying you like, let's
Speaker 4: say Krikling, you robbed a.
Speaker 1: Bank, and it's like, man, Krikling robbed the bank for
Speaker 1: three million, but then the next day you were.
Speaker 4: Shot and died. It's like, yeah, sure you robbed that
Speaker 4: bank at one point.
Speaker 6: But different though for predators, like if you die, you're
Speaker 6: literally your honor that's like the ultimate like thing died.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wouldn't honor this fucking guy. He had so
Speaker 4: many chances. You know, he took Danny Glover out scene
Speaker 4: one and he didn't.
Speaker 6: You know, it's it's their downfall. Like at the same time.
Speaker 4: What is what specifically is their downfall that.
Speaker 6: They like to bait and toy with like their significant
Speaker 6: prey when they see like, Okay, this is definitely like
Speaker 6: a very prominent opponent. I think that's the youth in
Speaker 6: this one being cocky, just kind of like thinking he's
Speaker 6: top ship, letting Harrigan kind of get not to get
Speaker 6: the better hand.
Speaker 3: But he was cocky.
Speaker 6: He let the ow lf kind of cat like sneak
Speaker 6: up on him and get the better on him there
Speaker 6: too in the meat locker place, so that definitely backfired
Speaker 6: on him.
Speaker 3: But he adapted and proved himself.
Speaker 4: But those blades to the cows. When Gary Busey thought
Speaker 4: he had him dead to right.
Speaker 3: That was the wild love it.
Speaker 5: He's like, get out of here, I'm about to save
Speaker 5: your ass.
Speaker 4: He's mine. It's like, yeah, he destroyed you and not
Speaker 4: only your face was half burned, he just cut you down. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I could where we want to go next.
Speaker 2: Maybe you can talk about our protagonist a little bit,
Speaker 2: Nanny Glover. I again, like I was kind of waiting
Speaker 2: for a moment that they just bringing Arnie somehow in
Speaker 2: this movie.
Speaker 5: I was, yeah, movies again.
Speaker 1: Well, I feel like that's the last card they have
Speaker 1: and they haven't done it yet. There was talking Predators,
Speaker 1: which we'll get there, but I feel like that's the
Speaker 1: last card Disney should be able to pull out, not
Speaker 1: for Prey, but if they could do one more Predator.
Speaker 5: He's just just pray.
Speaker 4: Even though it's a pretty equel. He's playing some apache
Speaker 4: chief and like.
Speaker 5: Like tattoos and ever, like he just looks like Arnie.
Speaker 4: Yeah, everyone's really authentic because like he's not a Native American,
Speaker 4: Like why his accent.
Speaker 2: Like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they don't even try to mask it and he's
Speaker 4: just there. But uh no, I think that's the last
Speaker 4: card they gotta do before Arnie passes away. They got
Speaker 4: they got to bring Arnie back.
Speaker 1: It's definitely getting near the point where it might be impossible,
Speaker 1: but I feel like that's the last card.
Speaker 4: But I know he's never brought back in any of these.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so a little sad there. He was just so
Speaker 2: phenomenal in that first movie. But Danny Glover, you know,
Speaker 2: I thought he was I thought he was a fun badass,
Speaker 2: uh like cop that just he didn't have time for
Speaker 2: for shit, you know, like he just wanted to get
Speaker 2: boots on the ground and really just really get shit done.
Speaker 2: I liked, like initially when his first partner, Angel Bautista,
Speaker 2: that's just one of my calm because that's just what
Speaker 2: I fucking saw with this character. I don't know what
Speaker 2: his name was in the movie. I got IMDb up here, Danny.
Speaker 4: But Angel.
Speaker 2: That was like actually though, like I'm like, how old
Speaker 2: is Angel Bautista in real life? No, there's no way
Speaker 2: this is actually him, right, And then I'm like his voice,
Speaker 2: this is this is him. But like when he when
Speaker 2: he I was gonna say passed away when he got
Speaker 2: fucking murdered by predator.
Speaker 4: That fredator kills you. You don't get to say my husband
Speaker 4: passed away.
Speaker 5: He did not pass He was thrown.
Speaker 4: Something passed through him, but he did not pass.
Speaker 2: So when he when he got fucked up, like uh lovers, Yeah,
Speaker 2: he took it hard and like really personal, like that
Speaker 2: was his his boy. Like they went fifteen years together
Speaker 2: on the streets, like went through so much shit together,
Speaker 2: and now it's like I don't have time for the
Speaker 2: political pull shit, like I need answers my own.
Speaker 5: I like that motivation from him there.
Speaker 2: I think a couple of the liners they're probably just
Speaker 2: dated because it just they just seemed weird, like an
Speaker 2: initial fight when he shows up. I don't know why,
Speaker 2: he just felt the need to be like hey, assholes,
Speaker 2: and then they like turn and he just like shoots
Speaker 2: like six dudes with the shotgun, when like, I feel like,
Speaker 2: you don't really want to give away your position when
Speaker 2: you're a number like that you have a pump action shotgun.
Speaker 5: But I digress. You know, there's the zero recoil on
Speaker 5: my weapon. And he fucked him up.
Speaker 2: He was the MVP that day, and like, you know,
Speaker 2: not really, I guess it's still about him. But when
Speaker 2: that scene ended, like he literally should have got like
Speaker 2: a medal of honor with what he did in that mission.
Speaker 2: You know, like he went in there with no flat
Speaker 2: jacket on the on the car just like head on
Speaker 2: rammed into like the l scorpion dudes. And then how
Speaker 2: does that scene end, Like his his boss just like
Speaker 2: rips his ass apart, basically rips his dick off, shows
Speaker 2: up his ass and then he just like he just
Speaker 2: like drives back to the police station like nobody's cheering
Speaker 2: him on, No one really like cares about what he did.
Speaker 2: He's just like basically he was so close to dining
Speaker 2: that day. But I felt bad for him. But all
Speaker 2: in all, I thought I thought he was a good
Speaker 2: enough Like we didn't get Arnold, so we have this guy.
Speaker 2: I thought I thought it was I thought it was
Speaker 2: a good enough protagonist to follow on.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm mean assure my thoughts on the protagonists. I
Speaker 4: have the sad break and we're back, and yeah, I
Speaker 4: feel like Danny Glover And this is not mean offensive him,
Speaker 4: but he fits like in that classic hey we can't
Speaker 4: get the big a start to do this film, Who's
Speaker 4: like a likable good actor that fits the b roll,
Speaker 4: Like if it's Arnold, what's to step down? And that
Speaker 4: is Danny Glover. But I like Danny Glover. You know,
Speaker 4: I liked him and saw leaf weapons and stuff, but
Speaker 4: I think he sawid lead. He gets a job done.
Speaker 1: He's just a pretty much angry cup and they do
Speaker 1: I think at least established he's angry because he's been
Speaker 1: here for so long and he's just gone through so
Speaker 1: much shit and everything.
Speaker 4: Now he's doing this alien but he's just so determined.
Speaker 1: Even at the end when they say, hey, we got
Speaker 1: a team to go take out the prayer, you just
Speaker 1: stay here, he still fucking just went inside.
Speaker 4: He didn't have to do that. He get a book,
Speaker 4: he coo, just sat there.
Speaker 6: But he goes on the radio and he's like, the
Speaker 6: lights you can see the goddamn lights.
Speaker 4: He's like, who is this clear?
Speaker 1: The Oh yeah, yeah, he definitely like is taking it personal,
Speaker 1: But in that point you should probably just go don't
Speaker 1: take it personal.
Speaker 4: Just sit up.
Speaker 1: But no, he he had a mission once he found
Speaker 1: out this predator. He's gonna fucking kill his predator.
Speaker 4: And he did.
Speaker 1: His homeboys took him and walked away, which is a
Speaker 1: scene I really liked. I like that them just showing
Speaker 1: this respect and bring in that. I kind of like
Speaker 1: the you got it. They gave him a gun, which is,
Speaker 1: you know, like an heirloom.
Speaker 4: Of the time.
Speaker 1: And oh so we talk about it on the retro
Speaker 1: last week, but seeing all the skulls, like the xenomorph,
Speaker 1: that's like such a nice little touch. But I like
Speaker 1: Danny Glover enough as an actor overall, so I liked
Speaker 1: him as the lead here. He got us to where
Speaker 1: we need to be. He can play like some of
Speaker 1: the emotional scenes quite good. He can play the hard
Speaker 1: ass quite good. Not like when the world's greatest actors,
Speaker 1: but enough that I can believe and want to watch
Speaker 1: the main characters.
Speaker 4: So that's what happened with me. Tanfield.
Speaker 6: You're talking about how like next character or next actor
Speaker 6: to kind of fit in that role as our main
Speaker 6: for this movie. Uh, I got like a trivia for
Speaker 6: the end. But I just feel like this is the
Speaker 6: best part. Just to throw this thing because I was
Speaker 6: fucking like chuckling reading this.
Speaker 3: It was so weird.
Speaker 6: But they actually instead of Danny Glover, they almost had
Speaker 6: I guess Steven Sagall really wanted the role. You guys know.
Speaker 4: About this fuck you know, I'm glad that didn't happen.
Speaker 3: Okay, So for Predator two's I'm gonna read this. This
Speaker 3: is fucking wild.
Speaker 6: First Predator twos thirtieth anniversary director Stephen Hopkins talked about
Speaker 6: almost casting Sigall in the sequel. Apparently Steven Stigell really
Speaker 6: won on the role, invited Hopkins over to.
Speaker 3: His house talk about the movie.
Speaker 6: Hopkins explained that it was one of the strangest experiences
Speaker 6: of his life, with Siegal showing off his gun collection
Speaker 6: and offering to launch grenades with the director.
Speaker 3: So and I.
Speaker 1: Sounds like what is this said? Like the possible unbearable
Speaker 1: weight of massive talent, sounds.
Speaker 3: Like so and I quote, I had to go.
Speaker 6: I have a meeting at his house, which is one
Speaker 6: of the craziest afternoons I've had. It was a bizarre Uh.
Speaker 6: He's very unusual, slightly twisted kind of guy. In the end,
Speaker 6: I couldn't see myself doing it with him. He was
Speaker 6: desperate to do it. I went to his house and
Speaker 6: he took me into a room where all the walls
Speaker 6: were covered with guns. He told me he wanted to
Speaker 6: play a CIA psychiatrist who was also a martial arts
Speaker 6: expert who carried a gun. He was clearly a little
Speaker 6: crazy at the time, and I was like, this is
Speaker 6: different than the way we're going, so I guess we
Speaker 6: shouldn't do it. He said, you know, I want you
Speaker 6: to come to my house and then a barber. He said,
Speaker 6: I've got a grenade launcher range there we can launch
Speaker 6: grenades together.
Speaker 3: I said, yeah, great, we'll do that.
Speaker 5: Sorry, I'm not a fan of his.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the gall is a weird fucking dude.
Speaker 3: That's insane, holy all there.
Speaker 4: But yeah, we almost had John Claude the last one.
Speaker 4: It's a goal in this one, so they would have
Speaker 4: had those action legend heroes in this. But uh nope,
Speaker 4: no cigall and everything like that. What did you, Taylor
Speaker 4: feel feel about our lead? Or do you want us
Speaker 4: to go somewhere else?
Speaker 3: What's that?
Speaker 4: Sorry?
Speaker 3: Repeat the question?
Speaker 4: How do you feel about our lead? Or if you
Speaker 4: have nothing?
Speaker 3: Ah?
Speaker 4: He was?
Speaker 6: I mean full of rage. Again, He's the main character
Speaker 6: in this Dan Lever Like, whenever I watch this movie,
Speaker 6: I just feel like I'm sweating, Like I'm sweating right
Speaker 6: now in this huts, like it's.
Speaker 4: Like top Maverick.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's.
Speaker 6: When when he's on screen, it just immediately turns into
Speaker 6: like his pits are always sweat. He goes into his office,
Speaker 6: he changes his shirt like it's just this is the
Speaker 6: this movie is heat wave, and I just you could
Speaker 6: watch it on like a below thirty day and you'd
Speaker 6: still be sweat And I feel like so, But again.
Speaker 4: He's could be twenty nine, which is pretty warm.
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, well that's true. He's he's angry, he's pissed off.
Speaker 6: Like when he's after I think the things with Danny,
Speaker 6: he like comes out of like his office and you
Speaker 6: see keys like thirty feet away, slowly going down the stairs,
Speaker 6: and he's like full on sprints after Drum and he
Speaker 6: always just pissed off. And even that, I feel like
Speaker 6: he did a really good job portraying this, like this
Speaker 6: grizzly cop that's just trying to survive these gang wars
Speaker 6: and just do the right thing and do the best.
Speaker 5: That he can.
Speaker 6: That scene where he is like no keys, the lights,
Speaker 6: goddamn lights, and he's like clear the line and he
Speaker 6: like he turns to uh, he turns to look at
Speaker 6: the guy guarding the door and he throws his hands
Speaker 6: up like this as he's walking and the guys don't move,
Speaker 6: and he just fucking like Deck seven puts a gun
Speaker 6: up to his neck.
Speaker 4: So smoothly, like he so gave up.
Speaker 5: He's full yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh and the other thing too, Holy shit.
Speaker 6: So Pope was just like an absolute just a nuisance
Speaker 6: in this movie.
Speaker 5: The Reporter.
Speaker 6: So when Pope like at the end when when Harrigan's
Speaker 6: chasing the predator and uh, Pope, he goes up right
Speaker 6: after like he just Leona is like like in a
Speaker 6: coma and he just lost Bill Packson and like Danny's dead,
Speaker 6: and then.
Speaker 3: Pope grabs the cameras like hey, Harrigan, more murder, more mutilations.
Speaker 3: He just turns out, Fuck you just drawn.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fuck you you had a lot of good ones,
Speaker 1: and like couldn't believe how many like lines you would draw,
Speaker 1: Like he would just look at someone and.
Speaker 4: Say cocksucker and then like move on on this day,
Speaker 4: like he just on. He just had great delivery by
Speaker 4: Danny Glover as well.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm glad you've brought up Tony Pope there, Taylor,
Speaker 2: because fuck he was making me laugh so hard.
Speaker 5: There was another moment I.
Speaker 2: Think it was on like the Voodoo the Voodoo scene,
Speaker 2: when he's just like he's like on the balcony or
Speaker 2: something like getting footage and then like he's just getting
Speaker 2: all the camera's like he's asking Danny Glover's character for
Speaker 2: just like a bit of information and the cop just
Speaker 2: goes there and just like grabs his camera.
Speaker 5: I literally I had to write down.
Speaker 2: Because I laughed so hard, specifically what he said and
Speaker 2: like his reaction to just.
Speaker 5: Like, hey, fuck you man, I know my rights.
Speaker 3: I smell I smell a cover up.
Speaker 4: Haragon.
Speaker 2: He's just like super like conspiracy theory, dude, that's just
Speaker 2: I'm also like that was another one OF's moments when
Speaker 2: they dropped so many F bombs in this movie of
Speaker 2: just like hey, fuck you asshole, like one of those
Speaker 2: types lines. But when he grabbed his camera, I it
Speaker 2: was just I was so shocked when he just like,
Speaker 2: fuck you asshole and he's just like talking shit like.
Speaker 5: I know my rise bull. Oh my god.
Speaker 4: It was good.
Speaker 5: It was something the hardcore reporting, by the way, that.
Speaker 6: Was exactly they kept making a point after all of
Speaker 6: his interviews.
Speaker 3: He kept he kept saying.
Speaker 4: Like where's Mayor, He's not even here.
Speaker 5: He's like, get off your ass and you come out
Speaker 5: and call martial law. That's what we did at the beginning.
Speaker 2: And when fucking h Angel Batista Batista Angel passed away
Speaker 2: got murdered, and then you know.
Speaker 4: Hard passed away.
Speaker 2: Typically you'd be like try and be respectful when you're
Speaker 2: like talking about someone that died and like that, and
Speaker 2: then in hardcore reporting, it just says I wrote down
Speaker 2: so I wouldn't get it.
Speaker 5: Hardcore scorecard that.
Speaker 2: Was that was the title at the top, and then
Speaker 2: it was like cop dead and it was like listening
Speaker 2: off like how many people were dead, as if he's
Speaker 2: like collecting like a fucking sports tally.
Speaker 5: It was just so bizarre. It's one of those things.
Speaker 2: It's like I would only picture that in a movie
Speaker 2: like this, where it's just like really leaning into that, like.
Speaker 5: I don't know action, what genre even is this?
Speaker 4: I don't know that the action, high octane action.
Speaker 2: Yeah, eighties, nineties type era. Yeah, just picture those types
Speaker 2: of things of like hard I couldn't believe it though.
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe that though. It was just like hardcore
Speaker 2: scorecard and it's just like his best friend's death that
Speaker 2: he's probably just like really torn out about and he's
Speaker 2: just seeing the score tally.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, that got me.
Speaker 6: I don't even know, like like his news was so yeah,
Speaker 6: it was so like straight to the point because yeah,
Speaker 6: he was like talking about like King Willie with his
Speaker 6: head clean off in an alley.
Speaker 3: Like he was one to one hundred.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's what I'm still laughing at the scorecard thing.
Speaker 1: Just Danik Olvera gets home for a tough day, turns
Speaker 1: on his TV and just sees his friend on this
Speaker 1: scorecard another one dead.
Speaker 4: But yeah, no, that was the point, right and there.
Speaker 1: I feel like that was kind of very total recall
Speaker 1: trying to be eighties, very kind of on the noise
Speaker 1: and not that they're wrong, because we kind of unfortunately
Speaker 1: transitioned into some of that stuff. But yeah, I just
Speaker 1: want to show it too. I talked about few times.
Speaker 1: Really likes the trains scene for the most part.
Speaker 4: I don't know if I.
Speaker 1: Needed the cannything, but I liked lights going off the train,
Speaker 1: flickering the lights I'm teeing everybody.
Speaker 4: The fact that everybody had guns was just a fucking
Speaker 4: wild scene. When the one guy's like, he's.
Speaker 1: Gonna he's gonna mug these This Scrop's gonna mug this
Speaker 1: book reader and he just pulls out of his gun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then they looked her laught and everyone's just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're know, fucking wrong him. Everybody has a gun and
Speaker 1: that's the revelation of that's why the preeder is killing them.
Speaker 1: But I wish you could maybe take out that stuff.
Speaker 1: But a wild even the scenes where it was dark,
Speaker 1: you just have like women randomly shooting and there's lights
Speaker 1: going off.
Speaker 4: So I visually like the scene. But there was a
Speaker 4: few cheesy things in it, But that's this whole movie, right.
Speaker 6: So that that one guy again, that seems absolutely fantastic.
Speaker 3: And when the guy was like approached by the crooks,
Speaker 3: and the crook's.
Speaker 6: Like, you look like a sympathetic dude, my friend who
Speaker 6: needs an operation, and then he whips out his gun
Speaker 6: and the briefcase and then they're not even phased by
Speaker 6: it because the go and he's like.
Speaker 3: Wine's feeling yours. He starts laughing, whips this fucking huge
Speaker 3: revolver out. Yeah, the old lady whips out her gun.
Speaker 6: Like all these people just pull their things, and I
Speaker 6: think that's great to like, we know how the preader works.
Speaker 6: We know he kills people that are armed. And that kid,
Speaker 6: like the little kid is very lucky because he's going
Speaker 6: fucking graveyard which is very.
Speaker 4: Gloves over there again.
Speaker 1: He saw the scorecard, he take fuck me its the
Speaker 1: here I'm going with see Angel Batista. And then while
Speaker 1: he's at this grace and a little kid like he's
Speaker 1: just the amount of phts die.
Speaker 4: The amount of PTSD that this Danny Glen must have
Speaker 4: because the whole day he's being reminded of his friend's
Speaker 4: death must be gargantuan. Absolutely.
Speaker 2: M hm, oh my gosh, you gout quickly mentioned like
Speaker 2: the the ship scene at the end, like the Final Showdown,
Speaker 2: I liked, how you know, I've seen a VP, so
Speaker 2: it wasn't my first time seeing like a predatorship, but
Speaker 2: it was cool going from the first one of this
Speaker 2: one that we just get a little bit more of
Speaker 2: his technology and just the inside of what the ship
Speaker 2: looks like. And it's very alien, not xenomorrph alien, but
Speaker 2: it's just very extraterrestrial.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 5: That reminded me.
Speaker 2: There's the Keys line too, when he's like explaining to
Speaker 2: what he is, it's.
Speaker 5: Like extraterrestrial life form. Clu's character, He's like, what does
Speaker 5: that mean? He's like fucking aliens man Like.
Speaker 2: It was just it's such a time piece movie, like
Speaker 2: but schimes SI other times. Absolutely, but the ship with
Speaker 2: like the smoke like that was really fun. It was
Speaker 2: a good final Showdown. As he mentioned, Travis, kind of
Speaker 2: weird that the Predators gets fucked up in his own ship.
Speaker 2: I guess he did have like an arm chopped off,
Speaker 2: so he's probably a little woozy in.
Speaker 5: That moment, maybe seeing doubles.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I liked when the other predators come in,
Speaker 2: like you mentioned when that that that respectful thing that
Speaker 2: they do of like you bested him, like so you
Speaker 2: want Yeah.
Speaker 5: We hated this fucking guy.
Speaker 4: So that's what he's on earth the center of the
Speaker 4: war zone where there's a bunch of guns in LA
Speaker 4: that's why.
Speaker 2: And like gives them like the matchlock, and that was
Speaker 2: something that I'm gonna it all comes back to a VP.
Speaker 2: But I love when the predator like sides with the
Speaker 2: human and like gives them like a trophy taters what
Speaker 2: I'm talking about. Travis probably does too, but he's nails
Speaker 2: on chalkboard when it comes d VP apparently.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I I'm excited to watch them one day,
Speaker 4: but I know those a's gonna be some bad times.
Speaker 4: I don't remember them fondly, but I will now go
Speaker 4: and then with a bit more of a uh just
Speaker 4: one have some fun with them. But I don't think
Speaker 4: they're good movies, no, one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: Not I but just that whole respect thing that the
Speaker 2: predator has I've always loved that quality of them. It
Speaker 2: separates them from just an enemy, you know that, like
Speaker 2: no matter what, they're just a bad guy and they're
Speaker 2: just gonna kill you.
Speaker 5: Like I like that.
Speaker 2: It makes them a little bit more interesting. So I
Speaker 2: really like that aspect. And again you get some different
Speaker 2: designs for different helmets and stuff of the Predators. I
Speaker 2: feel like my favorite mass that they have Taola. I
Speaker 2: don't know if you have a favorite or Travis, you
Speaker 2: have a fair but is the one that this one
Speaker 2: had like in the movie. Like, I just loved his look, like.
Speaker 5: Really really good.
Speaker 4: I'd have to await, I'd have to look at them
Speaker 4: all side by side.
Speaker 5: We'll do rankings after our Rechelson on. So, yeah, that
Speaker 5: was all cool.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys have any more to
Speaker 2: add on to that specific ending with the ship, and
Speaker 2: I know you talked about it a little bit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I would just hold down that I liked it.
Speaker 4: It was a good setting, I said.
Speaker 1: I think the whole lab went on a little too long,
Speaker 1: you could assure in that, but I liked it. God
Speaker 1: there I liked even just the design of it, like
Speaker 1: the orange and tan like walls and stuff, and I
Speaker 1: would swand to his voice.
Speaker 4: So no, I liked. I liked the finale and the
Speaker 4: climactic battle, everything about that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the whole the whole end sequence scene was just
Speaker 6: absolutely fantastic. Like getting to see I mean, I'm a huge,
Speaker 6: huge sucker for that stuff and seeing the ship and
Speaker 6: getting to see the whole lost tribe of Hunters was
Speaker 6: just so cool. It was just right up my alley.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, that was the Elder gray Back. Predator was
Speaker 6: actually the main one. I can't tell if you're joking
Speaker 6: or not, but I'm just trusted.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he could be making up names that we didn't know.
Speaker 2: The Elder gray Back like, he's probably right.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I can't audit him xeno Pedia, Xenopedia, but yeah, it's
Speaker 3: just it's fascinating.
Speaker 6: That whole trophy case scene when you see the Zeno skull,
Speaker 6: that was just that was fantastics, Like holy shit, like
Speaker 6: this just ties it in. It's such a subtle little thing.
Speaker 6: It didn't need to be anything more than that. And
Speaker 6: yeah that you can see King Willy's skull in there,
Speaker 6: and you can see Bill Paxson's skull in there as well.
Speaker 2: But on I was just gonna quickly add on that
Speaker 2: note too. I love the sequence when he's actually like
Speaker 2: shining the skull and just like really like it's like
Speaker 2: he's polishing his trophy right, like like he's he's he's like.
Speaker 5: When he kills King Willy.
Speaker 2: I like that sequence because that's I don't think we
Speaker 2: got that in the first one, at least from the
Speaker 2: predator's side of it, Like that little ritual that he
Speaker 2: does with the trophy, because we normally just see him
Speaker 2: like rip this like the trophy out and then somewhere else.
Speaker 6: Well, we saw it in the first one, like him
Speaker 6: cleaning it, and then we could see like he unrolled
Speaker 6: like this little thing and like he put like a
Speaker 6: skull like next to his other skulls. Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, right,
Speaker 6: but this was like the first time really seeing like
Speaker 6: the trophy case the kind of thing and like what
Speaker 6: they were kind of like intending them for. There is
Speaker 6: when the fight scene can There is a comic that
Speaker 6: actually focuses on the Elder gray back. I think it
Speaker 6: was a Dark Horse comic. It's in seventeen eighteen. It
Speaker 6: was when that predator actually goes to Earth and he
Speaker 6: actually fights and they actually gets the pistol from a pirate,
Speaker 6: which is pretty cool. I have to actually go and
Speaker 6: like find this comic and read it. I keep forgetting
Speaker 6: to but.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a pretty pretty cool shit they did. I
Speaker 3: think it was like an anniversary thing that they did.
Speaker 4: But uh.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's oh go ahead.
Speaker 4: No, no, mine's on a different tracks, so go ahead.
Speaker 3: Well, one last thing on just this scene here.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna share a screen here with you guys so
Speaker 6: you can indulge in the film. This is you, guys,
Speaker 6: ever seen.
Speaker 5: This before.
Speaker 4: Or having just a Predators are having a dance off
Speaker 4: right now? No, I've never seen that.
Speaker 6: You've never seen this before? Oh man, I'll just like, oh,
Speaker 6: it's just absolutely just beautiful. This is one of those
Speaker 6: like it's so like quirky, but I fucking love it
Speaker 6: to me. This is cannon like this look at that.
Speaker 6: It's absolutely fantastic. And the music too, is just it's definitely.
Speaker 2: Like the Predators just watching Danny Glover and that other battle,
Speaker 2: They're like this waste action like this kind.
Speaker 5: Of like fucking Bruno.
Speaker 4: That's there, you go.
Speaker 1: I want to ask how do you guys feel, because
Speaker 1: it's similar to what tears artists for our background here,
Speaker 1: How did you feel about the predator climbing building, holding
Speaker 1: swor up and getting struck by lightning, because I don't
Speaker 1: think I was for it.
Speaker 5: A thorn got a thunder moment when he like harvests
Speaker 5: the thunder. Yeah, that was very bizarre.
Speaker 2: I think in the moment like Okay, he's escaping and
Speaker 2: then he's cheering because he caught the trophies kind of.
Speaker 2: I think I was passing it until he just pulls
Speaker 2: like the raid and move where he just like calls
Speaker 2: the thunder to him and it doesn't shock him or anything.
Speaker 5: It's just like it's like snipping.
Speaker 3: I'm ready, I'm ready.
Speaker 5: That's a drug.
Speaker 4: Yeah, el lah, they got pure lightning.
Speaker 5: Man, it's so good. Yeah, that was very very very
Speaker 5: unneeded in my opinion. It was so weird.
Speaker 2: I don't think again, very limited predator knowledge, but I
Speaker 2: don't think that ever happens again Taylor.
Speaker 5: Does he just harvest lightning like anyone like that.
Speaker 6: I've never seen lightning Harris sit ever again, but I
Speaker 6: do know that it definitely lightning plasma works with their technology,
Speaker 6: so he was probably feeling super fucking juice.
Speaker 5: Huge heart on su as the lightning hit him.
Speaker 4: Just I didn't know that lightning did that to the predators.
Speaker 4: So there you go.
Speaker 5: It's an aphrodisiac.
Speaker 6: I made when I was fourteen or thirteen. I made
Speaker 6: a predator dot work.
Speaker 4: When you mentioned afridisy Act, I made it's like I mad.
Speaker 6: Madison, But no, I made a predator documentary and I
Speaker 6: was thinking an honor. I have to dig it out somewhere.
Speaker 6: I might hosted to the Patreon only.
Speaker 5: And that's on YouTube or something somewhere.
Speaker 3: Oh, I think YouTube.
Speaker 6: Banned it because I was he'sing like some like Blink
Speaker 6: one eighty two music back in the day or something
Speaker 6: like that.
Speaker 4: That's a bold choice. That is a humentry. But I
Speaker 4: don't think I heard the music choice.
Speaker 5: So I love it.
Speaker 4: So good might cutting down and everything you guys were
Speaker 4: cutting out for me.
Speaker 5: You know you're good. I think you're good.
Speaker 4: That's strange because yeah, there's a definitely delay going on.
Speaker 4: I think now again, I have.
Speaker 3: No delay with Kirkland.
Speaker 5: No, we're good, we're prime.
Speaker 4: I have delayed with both of you. By the ending
Speaker 4: of this podcast, I'll don't do it the fun I
Speaker 4: want my podcast. You you're one ugly motherfucker.
Speaker 2: Let's see going off my news. We actually hit like
Speaker 2: all the points I wanted to bring up, which is funny.
Speaker 2: It just goes to show how similar we were. We
Speaker 2: were all seeing the same things together, you know, with
Speaker 2: the ridiculous lines and stuff like that. God, I just
Speaker 2: love that moment when when Pope was I know my
Speaker 2: fucking rights, you motherfucker fuck.
Speaker 6: He pulls on another camera too, because like gets this
Speaker 6: story and he's holding like another one in his hand.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, just.
Speaker 4: Like a cover up.
Speaker 3: That's so good.
Speaker 2: I was gonna mention too when when that ravaging sex
Speaker 2: scene happened and then the cops.
Speaker 5: Arrive and she's just really scared.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they meant to like do it
Speaker 2: this way or if it was just like the FBI
Speaker 2: government was trying to just like take like the witness
Speaker 2: to like you know, like cover it up. But I
Speaker 2: don't know, Like for me, it was such a weird
Speaker 2: scene when like the female cop is like helping this
Speaker 2: naked woman out of the room and there's just these
Speaker 2: like three dudes that were like we got it from here,
Speaker 2: and there was like really creepy towards the woman. I
Speaker 2: don't know, if you saw it like the same way
Speaker 2: that I did. But it was very strange for me
Speaker 2: because like the like the female cop like was really defensive,
Speaker 2: like no back off, like like get out of here.
Speaker 2: Like it was just really bizarre for me. Again, maybe
Speaker 2: I was just reading too much into it, but it
Speaker 2: just seemed like, I don't know, there was some different
Speaker 2: motivations from their behalf there. But again maybe I was
Speaker 2: just I don't know, reading into it.
Speaker 3: Oh that's fair.
Speaker 5: I think just frozen now he's not even on a delay.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's restarting his computer. Taylor, just kidding distracted here
Speaker 6: for a second, my notes, I have a lot of
Speaker 6: like trivia, but I'm trying to think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, another thing to mention actually on the train scene
Speaker 2: that wasn't brought up when Travis was initially bringing up
Speaker 2: was after like the initial fight happens, and then you have.
Speaker 5: The female cop, which i'll pull her name. I think
Speaker 5: her name was Leona.
Speaker 2: She she like is outside of the train and then
Speaker 2: it's like this suspense of her like getting closer to
Speaker 2: this like dark portion of the train where and then
Speaker 2: she sees like the golf ball it's all bloody and
Speaker 2: it's just like a good suspense build up.
Speaker 5: I really like that sequence.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then she finds the aftermath, you know, she
Speaker 2: finds Bill Paxson Jerry was his name in the movie,
Speaker 2: and just absolutely fucked up.
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, his head was just like did he
Speaker 5: rip the skull out? I feel like I couldn't even
Speaker 5: really see it properly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he ripped the skull.
Speaker 6: When Harrigan goes like past the body, he can see like,
Speaker 6: holy shit, like the spine was ripped out and everything
Speaker 6: out of the back.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's back.
Speaker 3: He's back.
Speaker 5: We were what are we talking about?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Else here, I am back. You guys are still
Speaker 4: a little little iffy for me. I have another I
Speaker 4: don't know what happened. This happened. Oh see, yeah, you see,
Speaker 4: you guys were talking and I was talking like a
Speaker 4: full thirty seconds before you guys fucked my life.
Speaker 5: Oh well, I was mentioning.
Speaker 2: I don't have any more notes, Taylor, just as Trivia left,
Speaker 2: unless you have somewhere notes there too.
Speaker 4: I got Trivia.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I don't as far as notes go,
Speaker 6: like seeing some of these characters and seeing just getting
Speaker 6: the predators, Predator in general, with the other predators too.
Speaker 3: Like the action stuff. I was just eating it all up.
Speaker 3: It's much more action heavy. You're totally right, Charvis.
Speaker 6: It's more like Broie and diving into the thing with
Speaker 6: more explosions, yelling and anger and rage and distosterone soak, yeah, cocaine.
Speaker 6: So it's definitely a high octane sequel, but you don't
Speaker 6: need all that to necessarily make a better sequel. Again,
Speaker 6: do I say this is a better one than the
Speaker 6: first one? No, but I think that's what they were
Speaker 6: trying to go for, and they want it to be
Speaker 6: better than the first It's the goal of every sequel.
Speaker 6: So I think on its own, it's definitely worth viewing
Speaker 6: just to kind of see it. But I like that
Speaker 6: this kind of sets us up as well, where they
Speaker 6: didn't bring back reoccurring characters, but they establish list the
Speaker 6: uh like the anthology component, and that's something I think
Speaker 6: that really suits well with Preador. You have everything referencing
Speaker 6: that first movie, what happened in that situation, and that's
Speaker 6: all you need, and that just spear heads us along
Speaker 6: in all these other anthology standalone films that all just
Speaker 6: involve Predator in some form of objective with humanity getting
Speaker 6: in the way. And I think that's fantastic and that's
Speaker 6: exactly what happened here. I'm glad that they just they
Speaker 6: call it Predator too. It's not really a direct sequel,
Speaker 6: it's just another anthology movie in this franchise.
Speaker 4: And Yeah, if you didn't have any trivia, I feel
Speaker 4: like that's final thoughts right there, to throw a score down.
Speaker 4: I feel like that wrapped it up. Okay, then go
Speaker 4: I feel like I feel like you should have the trivia,
Speaker 4: and then that it was a person know here we are.
Speaker 3: I'll give it an eight out of ten though. That's
Speaker 3: my that's my rating. As for trivia, uh ca prop
Speaker 3: one of the trophies again obviously Alien Skull, we got that.
Speaker 4: A deleted role.
Speaker 6: Alpedia Carrillo, who played Anna in the first film, has
Speaker 6: her name listed in the sequel's credits. She didn't appear
Speaker 6: to be the actual film. However, if you look carefully
Speaker 6: during the scene inside Peter Keys's mobile headquarters, you actually
Speaker 6: see her. He's described to the creature activated self distruct
Speaker 6: device in the first film. You can briefly spot Anna
Speaker 6: on one of the video screens. Yeah, and apparently there
Speaker 6: was like a debriefing scene they were going to do
Speaker 6: and what she talks to the camera describes the events
Speaker 6: of the first film, but it was cut from the sequel.
Speaker 5: Pretty uneeded. I think it's just like that's what happened
Speaker 5: to the first movie.
Speaker 3: Not really necessary.
Speaker 6: I couldn't find more like credit to this. But the
Speaker 6: reason why the movie costs as much as it did
Speaker 6: is because Kevin Peter Hall, who played the Predator, convinced
Speaker 6: the producers to hire the Los Angeles.
Speaker 3: Lakers to portray the other Predators. And I thought, like,
Speaker 3: that's very very interesting.
Speaker 6: So I was trying to see if like, is this
Speaker 6: actually true or not, but I just thought it's worth
Speaker 6: mentioning regardless because it appeared on many trivia sites, so
Speaker 6: this is a thing.
Speaker 4: So it's just very wild if they did that, that's
Speaker 4: a fucking stupid ass studio. I don't woner why they
Speaker 4: got bought by Disney eventually to the Lakers to play
Speaker 4: the Predators. Were in a bunch of costumes.
Speaker 2: Wasn't a solid sales bitch, you know, to convince the
Speaker 2: oh definitely troubled production.
Speaker 6: So the scene where Harrigan meets King Willie the alley,
Speaker 6: the scene was filmed in was actually a rough neighborhood
Speaker 6: with disgruntled residents actually throwing feces at the film crew
Speaker 6: due to the noise they were making. They even discovered
Speaker 6: an actual dead body and a very real garbage you
Speaker 6: see in the scene.
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, he's in charge of a time to be
Speaker 1: on Predator two cent. Yeah, someone was asleep on the
Speaker 1: wheel that day.
Speaker 6: At one point, Patrick Swayze was approached to star in
Speaker 6: the film, but was unable to because he was injured
Speaker 6: during the filming of Roadhouse.
Speaker 2: Curious what he would have been. They would have paid
Speaker 2: more to have him as a Predator. Maybe you don't
Speaker 2: even see it's him.
Speaker 6: Stephen Hopkins wanted John Lithgow for Keys, but producer Joel
Speaker 6: Silver insisted on Gary Busey.
Speaker 5: Probably the best.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 6: In early drafts of the script, the Predator leaves a
Speaker 6: clump of King Willie's dreadlocks for hair going to find
Speaker 6: the graveyard, not Danny's necklace.
Speaker 5: That's like, it's just some.
Speaker 6: Fucking hair dangling here, no relevance to the meal. Keys
Speaker 6: was originally going to be Dutch once again, played by
Speaker 6: Round Swarzenegger. Uh, and again Anna was going to be
Speaker 6: back in here.
Speaker 4: As well, played separate character or no, you said Keys
Speaker 4: was going to be Dutch.
Speaker 6: Okay, Yeah, so Keys was going to be scrapped and
Speaker 6: they were just gonna have the character Dutch and they're
Speaker 6: played by Arnold Schwartzchnegger reprising his character.
Speaker 1: I thought you meant like they were gonna make the
Speaker 1: character Keys a dutch Man played by Arnold shortsting for something.
Speaker 4: Oh man, that they just ignored the first movie, and
Speaker 4: he yeah, I would have played, but I wouldn't have
Speaker 4: wanted the same ending.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 6: Schwartzenegger turned it down, however, because he didn't like the
Speaker 6: idea of that Dutch becoming a villain, so he declined.
Speaker 6: The original storyline of the film was to have taken
Speaker 6: place in New York City, but Jim and John Thomas
Speaker 6: quickly changes to Los Angeles because a budget concerns. Scene
Speaker 6: with the predator right raises the Schuldron. The lightning storm
Speaker 6: was originally to have taken place atop the Chrysler building.
Speaker 4: Oh, the Chrysler billing. Okay, I didn't think that.
Speaker 1: One thought you got Empire, State, get Statute of Liberty,
Speaker 1: all prime choice about Chrisler.
Speaker 6: Building a Chrysler building, it's I guess they they destroyed
Speaker 6: it in Godzilla that like nineteen ninety version. They made
Speaker 6: a point of it too, because they shot pockets a
Speaker 6: Godzella and he dodged it. And then the Mayor's like,
Speaker 6: that was a goddamn Chrysler building, like it's a it's
Speaker 6: an important landmark.
Speaker 5: I guess there you go.
Speaker 3: That's all my trivia. So you boys take it away.
Speaker 5: Drives eagle first or second.
Speaker 1: I guess I'll go because the delay is still crazy
Speaker 1: over here. It's all over the map, So I'll just
Speaker 1: say what I need to say. I'm giving this like
Speaker 1: a six point six'. Five it's close to seven because
Speaker 1: the rewatch one's lots of. FUN i think this would
Speaker 1: be a hell of a watch with guy like friends
Speaker 1: and everything like. That BUT I i can't give it
Speaker 1: that seven because SEVEN i always, say like that's When
Speaker 1: i'll be even if it's lower tier as far as quality,
Speaker 1: Wise i'll still be.
Speaker 4: Watching there's enough That i'll go back to. Rewatch this
Speaker 4: is Something i'll watch again WHEN i do something like,
Speaker 4: this When i'm gonna rewatch all The.
Speaker 1: PREDATORS i don't THINK i would watch this one by.
Speaker 1: Itself it's just If i'm in the mood For. PREDATORS
Speaker 1: i would watch the franchise and put this. In BUT i,
Speaker 1: have LIKE i, Said i've seen this movie made three
Speaker 1: times AND i haven't seen this maybe since like the
Speaker 1: early two thous and so it shows like my desire
Speaker 1: to watch this Where predator one back in the day
Speaker 1: WHEN i was on, Cable i'd just start. Watching if
Speaker 1: it's On, Netflix, YEAH i just put on. It it's
Speaker 1: like an easy go.
Speaker 4: To with this.
Speaker 6: One.
Speaker 1: Uh it's not that it's not an easygo, to it's
Speaker 1: JUST i know there's like a better version of this
Speaker 1: movie out, there you, know either there's there's some cool
Speaker 1: things that they did with The predator and some the
Speaker 1: lore and, stuff so you got. That but, yeah like
Speaker 1: a solid six point seventy five for. Me can't give
Speaker 1: that salt.
Speaker 2: Seven uh, Yeah SO i the first time, watching LIKE i,
Speaker 2: SAID i think the concept actually worked for, Me like
Speaker 2: it was just fun to have A predator In la
Speaker 2: popping off Using, yeah just like urban buildings and stuff
Speaker 2: as his terrain as opposed to like hiding in the.
Speaker 2: Trees he's hiding on buildings and, stuff AND i like
Speaker 2: seeing him just run, through like on on top of,
Speaker 2: cars running away but like in Envis.
Speaker 5: It was it was really.
Speaker 2: Fun so those sequences were, good AND i think it's
Speaker 2: it's also just a movie THAT i jumped in wanting
Speaker 2: to just have fun with, uh AND i did definitely achieve.
Speaker 2: THAT i THINK i had that in the first ten,
Speaker 2: minutes honestly With El. Scorpio that was. Fantastic for, RATING
Speaker 2: i Think i'm gonna give it like a seven and a.
Speaker 2: HALF i THINK i think it's it's definitely like rewatchable for.
Speaker 2: Me did you watch it with Shay By, no by the, way,
Speaker 2: no definitely not, NO i it's. FUNNY i put it
Speaker 2: on On. SUNDAY i went Biking sunday because on my
Speaker 2: bike back On saturday after like a month of doing
Speaker 2: no physical, activity SO i was so dead after we
Speaker 2: went it was it was a long one, too AND
Speaker 2: i LITERALLY i just like laid on the couch in
Speaker 2: the ac like all, day drinking water and just like
Speaker 2: fading in and out of.
Speaker 5: NAPS i was so. Tired BUT i Put predator on
Speaker 5: AND i.
Speaker 2: Saw like sixty five percent of the movie BECAUSE i,
Speaker 2: was LIKE i, SAID i was just fading it.
Speaker 5: Out SO i finished OR i rewatched it.
Speaker 2: Today actually from starting to finish BECAUSE i just loved
Speaker 2: a lot of Those El scorpio scenes along some other.
Speaker 2: Ones BUT i did not see like the sex scene
Speaker 2: at all in my initial. Viewings so today watching, it
Speaker 2: it blew my. Mind it was uh because, again LIKE i,
Speaker 2: said like the, Audio i'm, like, oh we're gonna get
Speaker 2: like Another predator. Something, no just very aggressive modes and
Speaker 2: just some hardcore. Sex but uh, yeah, NO i THINK
Speaker 2: i think IT'S i think it's.
Speaker 5: GREAT i really like The. Predator he was in. THERE
Speaker 5: i said he was in. It he was really good in, it.
Speaker 4: AND i think The predator was in. It he really
Speaker 4: delivered his best performance to go.
Speaker 2: Around and, yeah like his his catches and stuff was
Speaker 2: was better than this. One so seven and a half solid.
Speaker 6: Movie he had that like breathing mask too that he
Speaker 6: was using on the roof that was super cool when
Speaker 6: he was like really, injured just like the way of.
Speaker 3: Recovering very cool.
Speaker 2: STUFF i love those, details you, know like not not
Speaker 2: necessary to have all those little details in, it BUT
Speaker 2: i like.
Speaker 4: Them mm hm.
Speaker 5: Beautiful let's uh.
Speaker 4: Well A jomen that is The predator too. Retrospective we
Speaker 4: will be back With, predators which IS i think it
Speaker 4: gonna be another very interesting, retrospective so until then not be.
Speaker 4: Boring