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<v Speaker 1>It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's get it started, Ladies and gentlemen, hour

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<v Speaker 2>number two.

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<v Speaker 3>Here on a Tuesday afternoon, thanks for hanging out. Coffee

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<v Speaker 3>and company, fuel by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety

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<v Speaker 3>eighty coffee. That's me, Austin Montgomery alongside today. I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>sure if it's because I'm having to wear different headphones

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<v Speaker 3>or if it's the voice. But do I sound a

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<v Speaker 3>lot different? I mean, I know people can hear me.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think I sound like I'm dying, But does

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<v Speaker 3>my voice sound different?

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<v Speaker 2>There's some raspiness o to it?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that just gives it more character, right, Yah, of

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<v Speaker 3>course there's a show a lot more care and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sure more than anything. For me, it's I can't use

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<v Speaker 3>my earbuds today. I'm using the big cans because we

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<v Speaker 2>But anyways, it does not feel like a.

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<v Speaker 3>Tuesday of me, just because the weather and I mean

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<v Speaker 3>me getting sick yesterday it already being kind of a

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<v Speaker 3>holiday for some people.

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<v Speaker 2>We had our offices closed, but we.

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<v Speaker 3>Were also some of us were on air, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>my kid didn't have school today, probably not gonna have

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<v Speaker 3>school tomorrow. So really, as I said at the beginning

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<v Speaker 3>of the show, today, the beginning of twenty twenty five

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<v Speaker 3>has been just weird. We had a couple of weeks

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<v Speaker 3>far as routine. We didn't have a lot of things

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<v Speaker 3>of stuff. But man, we had a crazy weekend. When

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<v Speaker 3>it comes to the flooding, just really awful, awful situation.

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<v Speaker 3>When it comes to the amount of I mean not

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<v Speaker 3>only the amount of people impacted by but people who've

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<v Speaker 3>lost their life. I mean, after today, Andy Bisheer mentioned

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<v Speaker 3>two deaths in Jefferson County, so that puts it up

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<v Speaker 3>to fourteen people have died due to the flooding, which

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<v Speaker 3>again that's that's it's awful. And now you've got cold

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<v Speaker 3>weather for the next couple of days, really cold weather

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<v Speaker 3>with some snow. We already had some snow come down

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<v Speaker 3>think three to six inches is what they're mentioning. As

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<v Speaker 3>far as the Kentucky Aanna region when it's all said

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<v Speaker 3>and done, but hopefully it's on the lower end of that.

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<v Speaker 3>But again, if it ends up being more than that,

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<v Speaker 3>I can't I can't say I'm going to be shocked.

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<v Speaker 3>So stay safe, everybody, and hopefully we get warm weather

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<v Speaker 3>here soon so we can get all this mess melted

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<v Speaker 3>and then actually get to some spring temperatures. I love

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<v Speaker 3>the winter weather, always have, but we got enough this

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<v Speaker 3>year to last for a while. So anyways, let's take

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<v Speaker 3>a quick look here at the most updated bracketology.

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<v Speaker 2>From the one and only mister.

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<v Speaker 3>Joey Brackett's he put this out this morning, and top

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<v Speaker 3>overall seed not a surprise Auburn. I don't know how

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<v Speaker 3>much you guys have actually watched Auburn, like up close.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't watch them a whole lot early on. They've

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<v Speaker 3>been having a phenomenal season and they are the best team.

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<v Speaker 3>But in the last couple of weeks really, since they

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<v Speaker 3>got they're.

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<v Speaker 2>Big man back.

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of think of his name who transferred morehead

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<v Speaker 3>Stag Jenni Broom. Since Broom has been back, I've just

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<v Speaker 3>not really because I'm looking to do it, but I've

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<v Speaker 3>just found myself watching a lot of their games, more

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<v Speaker 3>so than I typically do, especially when they played on

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<v Speaker 3>Saturday against Alabama and Tuscaloosa. I mean, I think Auburn

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<v Speaker 3>right now is kind of quietly become the best team

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<v Speaker 3>in the country. And it's not close. Not to say

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<v Speaker 3>there are no other really good teams, but they, in

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<v Speaker 3>my opinion, are quite literally alone on an island when

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<v Speaker 3>it comes to being the number one overall seed. And

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<v Speaker 3>they do have two losses. They lost to Duke earlier

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<v Speaker 3>this year, but that was a close loss in Cameron,

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<v Speaker 3>and then they slipped up and lost to Florida a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of weeks ago, and that was a tough loss

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<v Speaker 3>for them, but that was right when Jeni Broom was

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<v Speaker 3>kind of getting back into you, back into rhythm.

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<v Speaker 2>So look, they anybody can be beat.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not a team that, you know, we got to

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<v Speaker 3>start talking about are they going to be remembered as

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<v Speaker 3>one of the best teams that ever played in college basketball?

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<v Speaker 3>But I think they are far and away the best

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<v Speaker 3>team in the country, meaning that when they play their best.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody's beating them.

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<v Speaker 3>Now again, there's some things you can do to make

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<v Speaker 3>them not at their best, and that's been done a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of times. But when you look at because Alabama's

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<v Speaker 3>really good. By the way Alabama in Tuscaloosa, Auburn had

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<v Speaker 3>full control of that game throughout, other than one instance

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<v Speaker 3>where Alabama made a really big run late to tie

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<v Speaker 3>it up and then what did Auburn do? Turn the

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<v Speaker 3>Jets back on and kind of run away with it.

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<v Speaker 3>So they're really, really good. Not a surprise to see

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<v Speaker 3>that they are the number one overall seed, and I

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<v Speaker 3>really I'd be highly shocked if we get to selections

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<v Speaker 3>Sunday and they're not still right there as the number

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<v Speaker 3>one overall seed.

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<v Speaker 4>All right.

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<v Speaker 3>As far as the first team out VCU, and the

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<v Speaker 3>last team in is wake Forest right now, and the

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<v Speaker 3>local teams Louisville, I believe they were, Yeah, there are

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<v Speaker 3>seven right now. According to Lonardi, they'd be playing West

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<v Speaker 3>Virginia in the seven to ten game. Tennessee would be

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<v Speaker 3>the two seas they'd play if it goes chalk in

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<v Speaker 3>that pod, the number one seed in that region is Duke.

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<v Speaker 3>Other notable teams in that region. The three seed there

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<v Speaker 3>is Arizona, who has quietly really bounced back. I mean

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<v Speaker 3>they had a rough start to the season.

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<v Speaker 2>Losing.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, what happened with Arizona is they lost some games

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<v Speaker 3>early on that that I think people didn't realize at

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<v Speaker 3>the time. Like, for example, I think Wisconsin beat Arizona.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think anybody realized Wisconsin is going to be

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<v Speaker 3>a top ten team. So sure enough, Wisconsin's twenty and

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<v Speaker 3>five and looking like a legitimate top three seed, and

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<v Speaker 3>Arizona they got all again, look at this, Austin.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you have any like if if

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<v Speaker 3>you pull for Arizona, but like that's where you live

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<v Speaker 3>for a long time, so clearly they're of some interest

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<v Speaker 3>to you.

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<v Speaker 2>My favor Wildcat. Let's say that Arizona started the season terrible,

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<v Speaker 2>four and five. They were out of the top twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh due, they were four and five.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean overall they I mean again, but here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Their losses to with Wisconsin and even in even West

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<v Speaker 3>Virginia and UCLA, like those were games at the time.

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<v Speaker 3>You didn't really know where those teams were going to

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<v Speaker 3>be at the end of the season, but those were

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<v Speaker 3>like right now, those five losses they had before Christmas,

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<v Speaker 3>they're all quality losses. And sure enough, since they got

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<v Speaker 3>into big twelve play. They've been playing a lot better.

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<v Speaker 3>They're up to number twelve right now in the kN Poms.

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<v Speaker 2>So Tommy Lloyd's flipped the switch.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So Arizona, I think they're deserving of being there

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<v Speaker 3>as a three seed as of right now quoting Culinardi.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the four in that region is Michigan State Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 3>They have moved to a well they were. I think

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<v Speaker 3>they were a three on selection. On the selection preview

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<v Speaker 3>on Saturday's.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw the number ten overall seeds.

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<v Speaker 3>So they're still sitting as a three seed. That is

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<v Speaker 3>in the Midwest region. The one seed there's Alabama, two

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<v Speaker 3>is Houston and they'd be playing uncg if if that's

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<v Speaker 3>how it played out. So other one seeds outside of

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<v Speaker 3>Duke and Alabama, Auburn is they're the number one overall seed.

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<v Speaker 3>Florida is a one seed. Two seeds are Tennessee, Texas

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<v Speaker 3>A and m Iowa State in Houston and real quick,

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<v Speaker 3>I wish I could tell you that I believe that

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<v Speaker 3>the SEC is getting too much love, but I don't

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<v Speaker 3>because I think from top to bottom it's the best

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<v Speaker 3>league and I think there's gonna be some teams that

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<v Speaker 3>finish with five hundred or losing records in that league

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<v Speaker 3>that are legitimately good. Now, I will say this, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think Texas is very good. Maybe they get in,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm not just saying that because Kentucky has lost

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<v Speaker 3>him Like I don't. I watched Texas enough this year

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<v Speaker 3>to me, they're not one of those teams that I'm like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 3>this is crazy. The SEC is so good, but really

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<v Speaker 3>in their own way. Auburn, Alabama, Florida, Tennessee, A and

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<v Speaker 3>M Missouri, Ole, miss Kentucky of course, Mississippi State, and

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<v Speaker 3>even Vandy because of Vandy's wins against Tennessee and Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 3>Teams that we know are good. Like, all those teams

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<v Speaker 3>are legitimately, in my opinion, bona fide tournament teams. And

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<v Speaker 3>maybe some of them will slip up and lose early.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>But like how many teams that I just name there are.

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<v Speaker 3>How many teams are even in the ACC or the SEC?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it eighteen or sixteen? I think it's sixteen. I

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<v Speaker 3>know eighteens in the ACC. Yeah, so there's sixteen teams

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<v Speaker 3>in the SEC right now, and I think outside of

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<v Speaker 3>South Carolina, LSU Georgia, Oklahoma.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I guess that's really it. I mean Arkansas.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think are I put Arkansas head of Texas

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<v Speaker 3>just because I've watched Arkansas play in stretches, including when

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<v Speaker 3>they played in Lexington to where like you can see, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>when that team is able to play like that, they're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be a tough beat for anybody. So I would

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<v Speaker 3>say roughly eleven of your sixteen teams I think are

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<v Speaker 3>not all the same level.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously, auburns above everybody. That you've got that second tier

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<v Speaker 3>that I believe includes Alabama in Florida, and then I

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<v Speaker 3>would probably include Kentucky and that when fully healthy, but

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if that's going to be the case

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<v Speaker 3>the rest of the way. So after that, I would

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<v Speaker 3>put Tennessee and Kentucky kind of together. Look, hey, and

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<v Speaker 3>this was a long route for me to get there.

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<v Speaker 3>But the SEC, as much as I wish I could

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<v Speaker 3>tell you that it's that it's not what everybody thinks

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<v Speaker 3>it is, and they're getting way too many teams in

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<v Speaker 3>the tournament, I just don't think that that's true. But

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<v Speaker 3>there are a couple of teams that aren't, like like

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<v Speaker 3>for example, Texas A and M Buzz Williams. They're twenty

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<v Speaker 3>and five right now, nine and three in the league.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they're looked at as a two seed but

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<v Speaker 3>just about everybody or maybe a three. But they like

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<v Speaker 3>they've not they actually, I mean honestly, they're win against

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<v Speaker 3>Texas Tech and Purdue, which were good non conference wins

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<v Speaker 3>like those have value, but outside of that, like they

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<v Speaker 3>haven't even played the best team. I mean, they played

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<v Speaker 3>Alabama in Kentucky, two of the better teams in their league.

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<v Speaker 2>They lost that.

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<v Speaker 3>Their other SEC wins include Texas and Oklahoma. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think those are big resume wins. They beat LSU, they

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<v Speaker 3>beat Mississippi. In fact, they did lose to Texas. So

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<v Speaker 3>their other wins include Oklahoma, South Carolina, Georgia, and then

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<v Speaker 3>recently Arkansas. So I'm not saying Texas A and M

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<v Speaker 3>is bad at all. They're really good. They're deserving to be,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, talked about as one of the better teams

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<v Speaker 3>in their conference. But they are getting, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 3>the love of the league being so good right because

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<v Speaker 3>they're gonna look, they still have to play Florida, Auburn, Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 3>So three of their last six games are against top

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<v Speaker 3>five teams, and it's not by design. It just played

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<v Speaker 3>to have probably the most manageable SEC schedule of anybody.

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<v Speaker 3>And again it's just you know its sometimes it's just

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<v Speaker 3>say that their schedule is like easy. It's just when

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<v Speaker 3>I look at the teams in the SEC that I

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<v Speaker 3>think are legitimately Final Four quality, they're not one of

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<v Speaker 3>them to me. And maybe I'll be proven wrong, but

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<v Speaker 3>like I think Auburn, Alabama, Florida, Kentucky went healthy, and

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<v Speaker 3>maybe Tennessee. I don't know Tennessee. I the more I

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<v Speaker 2>Are they really good or are they like.

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<v Speaker 3>Were they frods? Because they beat the hell out of Louisville. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>they got swept by Kentucky. They were down to Vandy

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<v Speaker 2>It seemed. They did beat Florida by twenty, so they're good.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, everybody in the SEC outside of like five teams

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<v Speaker 3>are legitimately good. I just think there's a couple that

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<v Speaker 3>they haven't actually gotten any of those big time signature wins,

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<v Speaker 3>right like some of the you know teams like Florida.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean they lost to Kentucky, but then they beat Auburn.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that that kind of shows you that, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>yeah you can you know Kentucky, they've lost to Alabama,

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<v Speaker 3>and they've lost to some other teams they probably shouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>have lost it. But you know what else they did.

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<v Speaker 3>They beat Florida at home, and they swim Tennessee like

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<v Speaker 3>there's no real there's not really anything A and M

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<v Speaker 3>has done. That I think is comparable to where you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you could lose to anybody because the league's so good,

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<v Speaker 3>but then you'll mess around and beat one of the

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<v Speaker 3>best teams. Like they haven't beaten one of the Tier

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe they will.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe maybe I'll be eating crow because again, they play

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<v Speaker 3>so Buzz is gonna have a chance to show really

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<v Speaker 2>And clearly, again they're good.

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<v Speaker 3>I already feel like I've made it sound as if

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<v Speaker 3>I'm saying they're frauds. It's just when I see just

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<v Speaker 3>how this league is being seated in the NCAA tournament

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<v Speaker 3>projections right now. I mean some of some of the teams,

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<v Speaker 3>I totally get it. Others I just, you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if I buy them as being that good.

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<v Speaker 3>But maybe I'm just a hater. But I've tried not

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<v Speaker 3>to be because again, like I I've been getting into it,

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<v Speaker 3>not getting into it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's probably a stretch.

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<v Speaker 3>But like me and my dad have been going back

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<v Speaker 3>and forth Austin about Louisville and in their seeding because

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think Louisville can miss the turn. But I

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<v Speaker 3>do know that if they somehow had a bad night

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<v Speaker 3>and lost to one of these teams left on the schedule,

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<v Speaker 3>that would change sort of the overall view of the resume.

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<v Speaker 3>And that wouldn't mean that I don't think they're as

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<v Speaker 3>good as I did today or even last week. Like

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<v Speaker 3>I know, when this team's playing well, I think I

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<v Speaker 3>think the world of this Louisville team. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if they're good enough to you know, make a Final four,

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<v Speaker 3>but I really really like this team. It's just I'm

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<v Speaker 3>looking at it from a pure number situation when it

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<v Speaker 3>comes to the resume, and like, I just think, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Louisville put it this way, and actually we'll get to

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<v Speaker 3>a break because I want to get to this. On

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<v Speaker 3>the other side, somebody texted in something earlier that I

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<v Speaker 3>want this will give me a chance to kind of

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<v Speaker 3>connect these two things, because there's some people that have

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<v Speaker 3>speculated Louisville is being criminally underrated in the top twenty five,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know what has Louisville got to do to be,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, higher than just twenty five?

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<v Speaker 2>Look at the record And.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even like to play Devil's advocate because I

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<v Speaker 3>think Louisville is as good as a lot of teams.

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<v Speaker 2>I really do, but I don't. I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think put it this way.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're somebody that is going to be stunned and

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<v Speaker 3>feeling as if there's they're out to get us on

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<v Speaker 3>selection Sunday, if Louisville's not better than like a seven seed,

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<v Speaker 3>I would just tell you to prepare for that. And

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I don't think. I think Louisvell' is a

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<v Speaker 3>better quality team than that. But also I understand the

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<v Speaker 3>resume is what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll get to that.

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<v Speaker 3>On the other side, stick around, it's coffee company, you

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<v Speaker 3>So this came in on the text line earlier when

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<v Speaker 3>I was talking about Louisville getting back into the top

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<v Speaker 3>twenty five and how I just I wish I could

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<v Speaker 3>have a variety. I mean, I guess I can. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't act like it's impossible, but I just what

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<v Speaker 3>makes this fun is being able to just share real

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<v Speaker 3>and honest opinions and be a fan. Like a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people, I try to be objective and to be

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<v Speaker 3>honest and not just be a homer, but I'm also

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<v Speaker 3>a fan, and to have to talk about Louisville basketball

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<v Speaker 3>the way we did the last couple of years and

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<v Speaker 3>now have this season, it's just been a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm just kind of lost in the moment where

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, more often than not, I'm just telling you

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<v Speaker 3>guys how fun it is and how much I'm enjoying it,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's probably not super entertaining, But I do know

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<v Speaker 3>that a lot of you are like, hey, no.

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<v Speaker 4>This is.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm sure it is boring to some who

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<v Speaker 3>don't care and don't feel the same way about Louisville

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<v Speaker 3>because you're not a fan, But this is the preference,

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<v Speaker 3>right when you get to being repetitive and it's just

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<v Speaker 3>kind of the same stuff here and there every day.

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<v Speaker 3>Almost it's nice for it to be about good things

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<v Speaker 3>right in Louisville basketball. Just being a twenty win team

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<v Speaker 3>at this point is is something that you could be.

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<v Speaker 3>You could have not got to twenty wins at the

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<v Speaker 3>end of the season and probably still in vision to

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<v Speaker 3>scenario where we would have felt good about the future

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<v Speaker 3>and felt like we hired the right guy. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>Pat Kelsey has already given us so far a fun

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<v Speaker 3>season that has been successful, and I mean you got

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<v Speaker 3>to think he won't be able to go get a

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of Rainsmiths the rest of his time here, because

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think those guys exist. He's one of the

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<v Speaker 3>best shooters I've ever seen in my life, Chucky Hepburn.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it sounds crazy to say because he's only

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<v Speaker 3>played twenty six games here, but I mean he's one

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<v Speaker 3>of the best point guards we've had in a long,

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<v Speaker 3>long time.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't want to act.

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<v Speaker 3>As if like this is going to be something that

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<v Speaker 3>we can just easily recreate every year. However, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>he just kind of put this together, this roster without

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<v Speaker 3>really any proof of concept, meaning he was getting people

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<v Speaker 3>to come to Louisville before he even showed anybody that

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<v Speaker 3>he could win here. So anyways, this comment came in

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<v Speaker 3>earlier and I wanted to read it for you. It

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<v Speaker 3>says I read it to you. I should say I'm

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<v Speaker 3>still learning how to speak. I don't know why, but

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<v Speaker 3>it feels like I haven't been on the air in

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<v Speaker 3>a long long time. I had a long weekend and

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<v Speaker 3>of course dealing with a little bit of a sickness,

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<v Speaker 3>so I'm a little rusty, so bear with me.

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<v Speaker 2>But it says the AP poll. That just says the

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<v Speaker 2>A people.

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<v Speaker 3>And then he goes on to say louisll is the

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<v Speaker 3>twenty fifth team in the country. But yet we're one

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<v Speaker 3>of twelve teams with twenty wins and we have a

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<v Speaker 3>top fifteen strength to schedule. Meanwhile, teams like Kansas and

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<v Speaker 3>Ole Miss are still in and they keep piling up

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<v Speaker 3>the losses. It just doesn't make sense, well it does.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, record is I mean, record is not the.

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<v Speaker 2>End all be all.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm sure there are teams with more wins

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<v Speaker 3>than Louisville that aren't ranked, and it's probably because they

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<v Speaker 3>play in a league that's not good, or they play

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<v Speaker 3>in like a mid major league, or maybe even below that.

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<v Speaker 3>So what I think is just tough for fans to it.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, let me let me I should have

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<v Speaker 3>threw this out there beforehand before really diving in. Do

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<v Speaker 3>I think Louisville's better than the twenty fifth best team

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<v Speaker 3>in the country.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't. I can't prove that, but I believe

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<v Speaker 2>they are. When they're playing well.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they're probably closer to a top sixteen type team.

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<v Speaker 3>I really do believe that. I can't prove it, but

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<v Speaker 3>that's what I believe. So this isn't me saying, hey, no,

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<v Speaker 3>you're wrong, Louisville is the twenty fifth ranked team. But

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<v Speaker 3>what we're not used to around here is that the

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<v Speaker 3>league is hurting us in a major way. Now, you

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<v Speaker 3>could take advantage of it and pile up wins like

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<v Speaker 3>they've done, but what really tells you where the ACC

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<v Speaker 3>stands is that Louisville's kicking team's ass and still our

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<v Speaker 3>borderline top twenty five in the NET and in the

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<v Speaker 3>Ken Palm, and of course also in the A. People,

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<v Speaker 3>it's really not that complicated to look and see. Okay, yeah, Louisville,

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<v Speaker 3>they lost to Georgia Tech, and since then, who have

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<v Speaker 3>they been able to go beat? They've beat Boston College, Miami,

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<v Speaker 3>NC State, and Notre Dame. All those teams suck.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they I mean, I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Not discrediting Louisville for winning. I mean they won all

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<v Speaker 3>of them by a lot, all of them by double vigions.

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<v Speaker 3>But like those teams aren't good so that those who

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<v Speaker 3>vote aren't gonna think, okay, well, I gotta put Louisville

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<v Speaker 3>back in the top twenty five. Now, clearly they are

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<v Speaker 3>back in the top twenty five, which is good. But

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we're not used to having four straight league

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<v Speaker 3>games in February results in you not really changing your situation.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's because we're not used to the league being

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<v Speaker 3>this bad. I mean, I can't think of any other

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<v Speaker 3>time where Louisville has been a good team of course

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<v Speaker 3>and played in Rather it be the ACC, the American

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<v Speaker 3>for the one year of the Big East, even I

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<v Speaker 3>don't even Conference USA maybe, like the league is what

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<v Speaker 3>it is, you can't control it.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't mean Louisville's not really good.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just you don't have as many opportunities to really

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<v Speaker 3>make a statement at all. And that's why I've said, really,

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<v Speaker 3>since they beat SMU and Wake Forest, I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>you have very little to.

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<v Speaker 2>Gain in a whole lot to lose.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, looking at I don't have the eight peop

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<v Speaker 3>pole pulled up in front of me, but I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>and by the way, Louislle strength of schedules not top

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<v Speaker 3>fifteen like you said, because again it was at one point,

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<v Speaker 3>but now they're playing lousy teams, so their strength of

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<v Speaker 3>schedule is dropping like crazy. I mean, as of right now,

424
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<v Speaker 3>Louisville strength to schedule, it's not terrible, but like right now,

425
00:19:43.279 --> 00:19:46.039
<v Speaker 3>louis strength of schedules thirty six in the country, so

426
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<v Speaker 3>they're twenty and six, and and you know, they haven't

427
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<v Speaker 3>played as tough as the schedule as you would have expected.

428
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<v Speaker 3>Imagine if they did not have a loaded non conference

429
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<v Speaker 3>schedule that featured the likes of.

430
00:19:58.680 --> 00:20:03.079
<v Speaker 2>Kentucky. I mean, actually I may have walked myself into this.

431
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<v Speaker 3>The loaded non conference schedule isn't as loaded now as

432
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<v Speaker 3>we thought it was Tennessee and Kentucky.

433
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<v Speaker 2>But Indiana's not good. West Virginia is not.

434
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<v Speaker 3>I mean, these aren't These aren't non conference opponents that

435
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<v Speaker 3>look really like Oh wow, I mean West Virginia, Indiana, Oklahoma,

436
00:20:22.160 --> 00:20:24.720
<v Speaker 3>like those are teams that are our quality as far

437
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<v Speaker 3>as you know.

438
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<v Speaker 2>Your schedule. Oh Miss is the top twenty five.

439
00:20:30.559 --> 00:20:33.079
<v Speaker 3>Team, so you know that that's a that's a that's

440
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<v Speaker 3>a good non conference opponent. So look, I mean, all

441
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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to say is that if you are somebody

442
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<v Speaker 3>that thinks that Louisville is being disrespected by where they

443
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<v Speaker 3>come in in the ape Pole, or maybe even you

444
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<v Speaker 3>think they're being disrespected by those who put together bracketology updates,

445
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<v Speaker 3>I'm not telling you that you're wrong. I just I'm

446
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<v Speaker 3>trying to give you, I guess a scenario as to

447
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<v Speaker 3>why they view it that way.

448
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<v Speaker 2>And also I'm trying to give.

449
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<v Speaker 3>You, I guess a little bit of a heads up

450
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<v Speaker 3>that you should just be prepared because I mean, Louisville

451
00:21:03.279 --> 00:21:06.759
<v Speaker 3>winning these next five games by double digits is simply

452
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<v Speaker 3>gonna be what they're supposed to do.

453
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<v Speaker 2>And if you're just staying status quo.

454
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you might end up with a twenty five and

455
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<v Speaker 3>six record going into conference play, but that may not

456
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<v Speaker 3>result in you really changing your status as far as

457
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<v Speaker 3>where you're projected to be going in the tournament and

458
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<v Speaker 3>really where you are in the net or the ap pole,

459
00:21:26.039 --> 00:21:27.480
<v Speaker 3>whatever it may be, which, of course, the ape pole

460
00:21:27.519 --> 00:21:30.799
<v Speaker 3>is a human thing, like it's a vote, it's everybody.

461
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<v Speaker 3>You know, there's I don't know how many, but many

462
00:21:33.079 --> 00:21:34.839
<v Speaker 3>people have a ballot they put it together.

463
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<v Speaker 2>So again, I think.

464
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<v Speaker 3>Louisville is as good as a lot of teams when

465
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<v Speaker 3>they're playing well. And really, what makes me even more

466
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<v Speaker 3>bullish on them is I think what makes them a

467
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<v Speaker 3>tough matchup, what makes them a team that I believe

468
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<v Speaker 3>is top sixteen, top seventeen, eighteen. It's not based off luck.

469
00:21:54.599 --> 00:21:56.039
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you're gonna need to make shots, but I

470
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<v Speaker 3>mean defensively they're pretty good and that leads to them

471
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<v Speaker 3>being able to get high percentage looks elsewhere. So again,

472
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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to make it sound as if I'm

473
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<v Speaker 3>telling you, hey, no, you're wrong, Louisville's not a top

474
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<v Speaker 3>twenty five team, or they're right at twenty five I

475
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<v Speaker 3>just think if you consider that their best win is Clemson,

476
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<v Speaker 3>and really there's no other win that is nearly as

477
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<v Speaker 3>good as Clemson, and Clemson is borderline at Clemson's the

478
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<v Speaker 3>seven seed. Your best win is against the seven seed.

479
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<v Speaker 3>And the only scenario that you will have where you

480
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<v Speaker 3>end up getting a better win than that is if

481
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<v Speaker 3>you play Duke in the a SC tournament and you

482
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<v Speaker 3>beat them, which certainly that could happen.

483
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<v Speaker 2>They'd be great, they'd be huge.

484
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<v Speaker 3>But I just what I wanted to what I wanted

485
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<v Speaker 3>to emphasize, is that we can we can acknowledge that

486
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<v Speaker 3>Louisville is going to be a tough matchup for a

487
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<v Speaker 3>lot of teams in the tournament if they keep playing well,

488
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<v Speaker 3>because I don't think we're homers and saying no, this

489
00:22:46.279 --> 00:22:49.720
<v Speaker 3>team's for real. But when you look at you know data,

490
00:22:50.200 --> 00:22:56.160
<v Speaker 3>that stuff matters too, and the best win's Clemson, and.

491
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<v Speaker 2>The league is is what it is.

492
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<v Speaker 3>I mean, Florida State, Virginia, Pittsburgh, Callen Stanford, those are

493
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<v Speaker 3>your last five games. You could win by twenty plus

494
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<v Speaker 3>and I wouldn't be shocked because again, we know Louisville's

495
00:23:07.400 --> 00:23:10.559
<v Speaker 3>capable of blowing out all these teams. But I just

496
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<v Speaker 3>don't know if that's going to do enough to bump

497
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<v Speaker 3>you up in the net. And I also don't know

498
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<v Speaker 3>if that's going to make much of an impression on

499
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<v Speaker 3>those that vote in the eight people and that doesn't matter.

500
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<v Speaker 3>Eight people doesn't matter, but clearly people value it, right,

501
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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's what people talk about more than anything.

502
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the.

503
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<v Speaker 3>NCAA selection committee does not factor in the top twenty

504
00:23:32.640 --> 00:23:36.519
<v Speaker 3>five A people at all, but you know, it's what

505
00:23:36.640 --> 00:23:38.720
<v Speaker 3>still gets reference more than anything. When you talk about

506
00:23:38.720 --> 00:23:40.599
<v Speaker 3>a team and where they are, they're not talking about

507
00:23:40.599 --> 00:23:42.720
<v Speaker 3>their projected seed line, they're not talking about their net

508
00:23:43.000 --> 00:23:44.960
<v Speaker 3>They're talking about that number that's next to their name

509
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<v Speaker 3>on the score bug when they're playing.

510
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's very.

511
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<v Speaker 3>Much in your face. And look, it's nice to be

512
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<v Speaker 3>ranked again. It's just you know, at the grand scheme

513
00:23:53.319 --> 00:23:59.640
<v Speaker 3>of things, it doesn't really matter, and you know, the

514
00:23:59.720 --> 00:24:01.799
<v Speaker 3>league just needs to be better. I mean, Poolville is

515
00:24:01.799 --> 00:24:03.880
<v Speaker 3>a factor in that too, because hey, we were the

516
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<v Speaker 3>worst team in this awful basketball league that it's become

517
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<v Speaker 3>in the last couple of years. But now we're not

518
00:24:08.440 --> 00:24:10.799
<v Speaker 3>and we're beating up on these teams and it's just

519
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<v Speaker 3>unfortunately it doesn't It doesn't give you a whole lot

520
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<v Speaker 3>of value like it usually does. All right, Babo, tub

521
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<v Speaker 3>I've seven. See hundred is the number. If you guys

522
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<v Speaker 3>want to jump in and give us a call, let's

523
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<v Speaker 3>go to Jerry. Jerry, what's happening?

524
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<v Speaker 4>Hey, Nick, I'm gonna throw a lot at you real quick. Okay,

525
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<v Speaker 4>So good talking talking about seeds. Here's the way I

526
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<v Speaker 4>look at it. I had a discussion with a guy yesterday.

527
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<v Speaker 4>I think right now U of L has more pressure

528
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<v Speaker 4>on them to win every game and to have and

529
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<v Speaker 4>to finish strong than Kentucky does. Okay, because they get

530
00:24:45.640 --> 00:24:49.880
<v Speaker 4>a pass because of all this totally unbelievable and we

531
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<v Speaker 4>can't afford to drop one. Okay, So so I'll give

532
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<v Speaker 4>you our seed range. In my opinion, I think we

533
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<v Speaker 4>could be anywhere, and I might be a little high

534
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<v Speaker 4>on my high number or or you know, my my

535
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<v Speaker 4>best number. I'm gonna say we're going to be a

536
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<v Speaker 4>three to an eight. How do you get to a three?

537
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<v Speaker 4>You run the table, you go five and zero, Then

538
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<v Speaker 4>you get in the ACC tournament, you get to the final,

539
00:25:08.640 --> 00:25:10.559
<v Speaker 4>and you beat Duke. That's the way you get to

540
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<v Speaker 4>a three. If you get to the final and lose

541
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<v Speaker 4>the Duke, you're going to be a four or five.

542
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<v Speaker 4>I think, how do you be an eight? You go

543
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<v Speaker 4>four and one and you have a mediocre performance and

544
00:25:20.920 --> 00:25:23.480
<v Speaker 4>you flame out before the final in the ACC tournament.

545
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<v Speaker 3>I think that's the rain not I could not agree

546
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<v Speaker 3>more whether every scenario you laid out.

547
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<v Speaker 2>I think the ceiling is the three.

548
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<v Speaker 3>And it would take you needing even need to beat

549
00:25:32.319 --> 00:25:34.200
<v Speaker 3>Duke to do it. I think if you end up

550
00:25:34.400 --> 00:25:36.640
<v Speaker 3>losing the Duke but you beat Clemson again, I think

551
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<v Speaker 3>you're I totally agree.

552
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<v Speaker 4>With you, okay about the Notre Dame game. Right now,

553
00:25:42.559 --> 00:25:47.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm already spoiled, okay, so I have very high expectations

554
00:25:47.079 --> 00:25:50.279
<v Speaker 4>they've spoiled me going to SMU and killing them. So

555
00:25:50.359 --> 00:25:52.880
<v Speaker 4>I wasn't really that and I wasn't really that happy

556
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<v Speaker 4>with the Notre Dame game. I was glad we won

557
00:25:55.359 --> 00:25:58.880
<v Speaker 4>fifteens in nice margin, blah blah uh it. You know,

558
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<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure on here to killing. But you know,

559
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<v Speaker 4>I thought chucky man the five turnovers and some of

560
00:26:03.599 --> 00:26:05.599
<v Speaker 4>them were terrible. You know, I was really a little

561
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<v Speaker 4>disappointed in.

562
00:26:06.319 --> 00:26:08.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was sloppy and kind of awkward at times,

563
00:26:08.440 --> 00:26:09.920
<v Speaker 3>especially early, just kind of felt weird.

564
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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I got two more uh two more topics real quick.

565
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<v Speaker 4>Number one, I know that your show isn't on anymore postgame.

566
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<v Speaker 4>All I can tell you is this, reading Twitter and

567
00:26:25.119 --> 00:26:28.160
<v Speaker 4>reading a few things after the eight o'clock game the

568
00:26:28.279 --> 00:26:30.680
<v Speaker 4>other night. There's a lot of fans that are starving

569
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<v Speaker 4>for that. And I don't, I don't. I don't begrudge you,

570
00:26:33.680 --> 00:26:35.599
<v Speaker 4>especially you know, and I know you said there are

571
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<v Speaker 4>circumstances beyond your control blah blah blah. But with an

572
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<v Speaker 4>eight o'clock or a nine o'clock start, the fans are

573
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<v Speaker 4>starving for that, especially the away games. I don't blame

574
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<v Speaker 4>you for not wanting to do the home games, even

575
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<v Speaker 4>if you had the opportunity to again. But but I

576
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<v Speaker 4>wanted to throw that out there. And then I got

577
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<v Speaker 4>one more thing. Of course you weren't on yesterday. I

578
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<v Speaker 4>bounced around, listened to a lot of shows talking about

579
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<v Speaker 4>Kelsey's contract on a show and he's at two point

580
00:27:05.200 --> 00:27:09.160
<v Speaker 4>three right now. I want to know where do you

581
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<v Speaker 4>think they land with his salary? And then I got

582
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<v Speaker 4>one more thing. A while back, I talked about hurt

583
00:27:15.440 --> 00:27:19.119
<v Speaker 4>hurt need to be physically responsible with this contract, and

584
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<v Speaker 4>I didn't. I didn't get to finish my thought for

585
00:27:22.359 --> 00:27:23.960
<v Speaker 4>some reason that day. And I want I want to

586
00:27:24.079 --> 00:27:28.319
<v Speaker 4>do it now. Okay, there was one contract here locally,

587
00:27:29.240 --> 00:27:31.279
<v Speaker 4>and it was up at IU with a football coach,

588
00:27:31.400 --> 00:27:34.440
<v Speaker 4>Tom Allen, where he hit the He he looked like,

589
00:27:34.960 --> 00:27:37.319
<v Speaker 4>maybe not as hot as Kelsey right now, but he

590
00:27:37.400 --> 00:27:40.000
<v Speaker 4>looked really good, right and they and they went all

591
00:27:40.079 --> 00:27:43.240
<v Speaker 4>in on him, and then they got burned by it

592
00:27:43.319 --> 00:27:45.799
<v Speaker 4>because they're paying through the nose for Tom Allen right now,

593
00:27:46.160 --> 00:27:50.119
<v Speaker 4>the way I see it, pay Kelsey huge money up front,

594
00:27:50.400 --> 00:27:52.640
<v Speaker 4>but the badge, you know, in case things were to

595
00:27:52.720 --> 00:27:54.720
<v Speaker 4>go south to by its should never be and I

596
00:27:54.759 --> 00:27:56.640
<v Speaker 4>don't think they will. I like the guy. I think

597
00:27:56.680 --> 00:27:59.720
<v Speaker 4>it's gonna work out, but I think the buyout should

598
00:27:59.720 --> 00:28:02.279
<v Speaker 4>be in U of L's favor. You know what I'm saying.

599
00:28:02.680 --> 00:28:04.960
<v Speaker 4>I mean, look, look look at look again, look at

600
00:28:05.000 --> 00:28:07.960
<v Speaker 4>how they got burned by Tom Allen. But anyway, that's

601
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<v Speaker 4>all I got.

602
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<v Speaker 2>What did you say currently, Jerry? Who pat? Is it

603
00:28:13.759 --> 00:28:16.759
<v Speaker 2>two point something? That was okay?

604
00:28:17.880 --> 00:28:20.880
<v Speaker 4>Chief than paid Kenny Payne. They paid Kenny Payne three

605
00:28:20.960 --> 00:28:22.920
<v Speaker 4>point two for God's sake, you're you kidding me.

606
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<v Speaker 2>Appreciate.

607
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<v Speaker 3>So let's start with the well, I'll start with the

608
00:28:31.440 --> 00:28:35.000
<v Speaker 3>the postgame show thing. I mean it is quite literally

609
00:28:35.640 --> 00:28:37.519
<v Speaker 3>out of out of I mean really it's out of

610
00:28:37.559 --> 00:28:39.119
<v Speaker 3>everybody's control, to be honest with you.

611
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<v Speaker 2>And I mean, we just don't have resources here right

612
00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:46.640
<v Speaker 2>now to be able to do that without.

613
00:28:47.960 --> 00:28:51.200
<v Speaker 3>Running it up the ladder to higher ups to people

614
00:28:51.319 --> 00:28:54.039
<v Speaker 3>that you know, don't even know who I am. I mean,

615
00:28:54.119 --> 00:28:58.519
<v Speaker 3>iHeartMedia is a huge company. So with and we did

616
00:28:58.599 --> 00:29:00.680
<v Speaker 3>start the season doing basketball those game shows, and we

617
00:29:00.759 --> 00:29:02.400
<v Speaker 3>had a plan and then that plan kind of got

618
00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:05.559
<v Speaker 3>derailed with with some cuts that were made that just

619
00:29:05.680 --> 00:29:07.960
<v Speaker 3>limited us as far as the resources we have here.

620
00:29:08.640 --> 00:29:13.200
<v Speaker 2>And you know that that that's totally out of my control.

621
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<v Speaker 3>I know that there's there's a real and look, it

622
00:29:16.480 --> 00:29:18.160
<v Speaker 3>was huge for me to be able to do the

623
00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:22.559
<v Speaker 3>games football and basketball as soon as they ended once

624
00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:26.640
<v Speaker 3>we no longer carried the Learfield product. I mean that

625
00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:30.240
<v Speaker 3>that benefited us, it benefited me. Uh And and it

626
00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:33.279
<v Speaker 3>sounds awful because it was really a funeral after every

627
00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:35.640
<v Speaker 3>basketball game, it seemed during the Kinny Payne era.

628
00:29:35.720 --> 00:29:36.960
<v Speaker 2>But that you know, they're the.

629
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<v Speaker 3>People who really are you know, die hards and just

630
00:29:40.119 --> 00:29:45.119
<v Speaker 3>you know, obsessed with Louisville basketball, good or bad. We

631
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<v Speaker 3>we were, we were reaching a lot of people, and

632
00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:51.519
<v Speaker 3>it just you know, way above my pay grade. Not

633
00:29:51.640 --> 00:29:54.319
<v Speaker 3>something I can control at all. But I do believe

634
00:29:54.400 --> 00:29:56.759
<v Speaker 3>that one day we'll be back to having that, and

635
00:29:56.880 --> 00:29:58.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean we will. I mean I shouldn't say I

636
00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:01.119
<v Speaker 3>believe we will. It's just this season.

637
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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure.

638
00:30:02.279 --> 00:30:05.359
<v Speaker 3>Now. There may be some there may be some situations

639
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<v Speaker 3>to where we can you know, postgame for acc tournament

640
00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:10.200
<v Speaker 3>instead of a tournament, Like we may be able to

641
00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:12.079
<v Speaker 3>work something out to be able to make that happen.

642
00:30:12.720 --> 00:30:16.799
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I miss doing them. You know, it certainly

643
00:30:16.839 --> 00:30:18.400
<v Speaker 3>would be fun to have done a lot of these

644
00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:22.000
<v Speaker 3>postgame shows after these wins, because it really is the

645
00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:25.079
<v Speaker 3>exact opposite. Now it's not like you're beating top ten

646
00:30:25.160 --> 00:30:27.960
<v Speaker 3>teams every night, but I mean to be able to

647
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<v Speaker 3>have really the exact opposite of what we did for

648
00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:32.400
<v Speaker 3>two years straight, which is just to go on the

649
00:30:32.440 --> 00:30:35.440
<v Speaker 3>air as soon as the game ends and react in

650
00:30:35.559 --> 00:30:39.480
<v Speaker 3>the moment whenever you're watching this team blow teams out

651
00:30:39.720 --> 00:30:43.440
<v Speaker 3>and going through what Pat Kelsey calls the revival. I mean, yeah,

652
00:30:43.440 --> 00:30:45.799
<v Speaker 3>it would have been fun, but you know, out of

653
00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:51.880
<v Speaker 3>my control, all right. So with pat Kelsey, I think

654
00:30:52.920 --> 00:30:55.519
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I mean, he clearly is going to

655
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<v Speaker 3>need a new contract if he continues to show that

656
00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:04.039
<v Speaker 3>he is taking you know, because Louisville offered him a

657
00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:09.240
<v Speaker 3>Louisville's paying him currently, probably less than they've paid any

658
00:31:09.519 --> 00:31:13.119
<v Speaker 3>coach in Gosh. I don't know, Like when does Rick

659
00:31:13.160 --> 00:31:15.720
<v Speaker 3>Patino ever make less than that at Louisville. I feel

660
00:31:15.720 --> 00:31:17.759
<v Speaker 3>like he didn't, and you know, he's Rick Patino. Pat

661
00:31:17.839 --> 00:31:21.079
<v Speaker 3>Kelsey's not. So I think it made sense to get

662
00:31:21.160 --> 00:31:24.119
<v Speaker 3>him at that rate. And honestly, I think you knew

663
00:31:24.160 --> 00:31:26.440
<v Speaker 3>you could get him, but the cheap, which is probably

664
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<v Speaker 3>one of the many things that Josh Hurd considered when

665
00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:32.599
<v Speaker 3>he decided, Hey, this is who I want to offer

666
00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:35.799
<v Speaker 3>the job to. But now, you know, I think what

667
00:31:35.880 --> 00:31:38.680
<v Speaker 3>it really comes down to. And this is just me speculating,

668
00:31:38.759 --> 00:31:43.319
<v Speaker 3>pure speculation, just really guessing. If Louisville makes the second weekend,

669
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<v Speaker 3>I think he has a new contract next year. If

670
00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:49.880
<v Speaker 3>Louisville makes the tournament and loses in the round of

671
00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:53.000
<v Speaker 3>thirty two, he might have another contract next year, or

672
00:31:53.079 --> 00:31:55.279
<v Speaker 3>it might be a situation to where they rework it

673
00:31:55.559 --> 00:32:00.240
<v Speaker 3>after the following season. So one thing's one of the

674
00:32:00.279 --> 00:32:02.960
<v Speaker 3>things that makes it really tough to predict is that

675
00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:09.119
<v Speaker 3>the way in which these schools pay ungodly amount of

676
00:32:09.119 --> 00:32:12.079
<v Speaker 3>money to these coaches. Part of me says that's never

677
00:32:12.160 --> 00:32:14.599
<v Speaker 3>gonna change. So what will likely change is the buyout

678
00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:16.640
<v Speaker 3>structure just to cover the we're in. These schools are

679
00:32:16.680 --> 00:32:19.480
<v Speaker 3>now having to share revenue with athletes, meaning they got

680
00:32:19.480 --> 00:32:22.440
<v Speaker 3>a twenty million dollar bill annually now to pay players.

681
00:32:23.000 --> 00:32:25.720
<v Speaker 3>They didn't used to have that right, So you got

682
00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:28.720
<v Speaker 3>to be super mindful of every little thing you're doing

683
00:32:28.960 --> 00:32:31.200
<v Speaker 3>in what it could eventually cost you down the line.

684
00:32:31.559 --> 00:32:34.799
<v Speaker 3>So if you if you have a big time contract

685
00:32:34.960 --> 00:32:38.839
<v Speaker 3>for Pat Kelcey, but yet if you end up firing him,

686
00:32:39.640 --> 00:32:42.359
<v Speaker 3>the buyout is not what it's been in recent years

687
00:32:42.440 --> 00:32:44.440
<v Speaker 3>in college sports, or really not even recent years for

688
00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:46.680
<v Speaker 3>a long time, Like there's no scenario Kenny Payne should

689
00:32:46.680 --> 00:32:48.680
<v Speaker 3>have ever gotten the contract he got and I'm not

690
00:32:48.720 --> 00:32:51.279
<v Speaker 3>even talking about hiring him, but like what they paid

691
00:32:51.359 --> 00:32:55.240
<v Speaker 3>him never made since, and what his buyout was never

692
00:32:55.359 --> 00:32:57.759
<v Speaker 3>made sense. And I just feel like moving forward in

693
00:32:57.799 --> 00:32:59.599
<v Speaker 3>college athletics, these coaches are still gonna make a lot

694
00:32:59.599 --> 00:33:02.799
<v Speaker 3>of money. But I would imagine their buyouts are gonna

695
00:33:02.799 --> 00:33:05.559
<v Speaker 3>be are gonna be different, or at least they should be,

696
00:33:05.640 --> 00:33:09.480
<v Speaker 3>because those have never made sense, Like it's robbery. I

697
00:33:09.680 --> 00:33:12.119
<v Speaker 3>know that there are certain industries where you can you

698
00:33:12.200 --> 00:33:14.880
<v Speaker 3>can be fired and yet they're still going to pay

699
00:33:14.920 --> 00:33:18.119
<v Speaker 3>you the salary they agree to pay you. I mean,

700
00:33:18.160 --> 00:33:21.000
<v Speaker 3>that's that's well, what's my industry. I mean, there's a

701
00:33:21.039 --> 00:33:24.400
<v Speaker 3>lot of people who end up not finishing their contract,

702
00:33:24.400 --> 00:33:26.079
<v Speaker 3>but they're still getting paid and then there's a non

703
00:33:26.119 --> 00:33:28.839
<v Speaker 3>compete in there, so like, but but the amount, I mean,

704
00:33:28.960 --> 00:33:30.759
<v Speaker 3>like you could be like the fact that you could

705
00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:32.559
<v Speaker 3>be a terrible coach and lose every game and that's

706
00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:36.160
<v Speaker 3>not considered cause to fire you, Like that's insanity and

707
00:33:36.240 --> 00:33:38.160
<v Speaker 3>that's probably never going to change as far as the stipulation.

708
00:33:38.519 --> 00:33:41.119
<v Speaker 3>But the the the buyouts that that that that's the

709
00:33:41.279 --> 00:33:44.480
<v Speaker 3>most that's the easiest and most obvious thing to fix

710
00:33:44.559 --> 00:33:47.799
<v Speaker 3>as far as really counting every little penny you're spending

711
00:33:47.880 --> 00:33:51.240
<v Speaker 3>because you now have more mean, Look, there's coaches already

712
00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:53.599
<v Speaker 3>that are that are making adjustments to their salary because

713
00:33:53.599 --> 00:33:56.079
<v Speaker 3>they realize the school needs to save money. And oh,

714
00:33:56.119 --> 00:33:59.480
<v Speaker 3>by the way money needs to go towards nil. So

715
00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:02.000
<v Speaker 3>I think Pat Kelsey will be here long term. I'm

716
00:34:02.039 --> 00:34:04.160
<v Speaker 3>not at all worried about him on that low end

717
00:34:04.240 --> 00:34:08.679
<v Speaker 3>deal getting plucked away from here, because if it came

718
00:34:08.719 --> 00:34:10.000
<v Speaker 3>down to that, LOUISLL would do whatever they have to

719
00:34:10.039 --> 00:34:12.920
<v Speaker 3>do to keep their coach. But if you know that,

720
00:34:14.239 --> 00:34:15.639
<v Speaker 3>why not just do it now? Well, I think the

721
00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:17.960
<v Speaker 3>answer is because they're clearly not in a great position

722
00:34:18.079 --> 00:34:21.480
<v Speaker 3>financially because of what's happened in recent years.

723
00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:24.480
<v Speaker 2>So again, I think he'll be here long term.

724
00:34:24.519 --> 00:34:27.239
<v Speaker 3>I just don't know if he's the kind of guy

725
00:34:27.320 --> 00:34:29.320
<v Speaker 3>that is going to be pushing for a new contract

726
00:34:29.519 --> 00:34:31.159
<v Speaker 3>or maybe they're already working on it. I don't know,

727
00:34:31.719 --> 00:34:34.679
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I mean to see that he's making two

728
00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:37.159
<v Speaker 3>point three, two point four, whatever it is. That's a

729
00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:40.239
<v Speaker 3>lot of money to coach basketball, trust me. And it's

730
00:34:40.239 --> 00:34:42.559
<v Speaker 3>a big pay raise for Pat.

731
00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:45.440
<v Speaker 2>Kelsey from where he was. But you know, Louisll's Louisville,

732
00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:47.039
<v Speaker 2>and I don't know.

733
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<v Speaker 3>It just kind of feels crazy knowing that Kenny Payne

734
00:34:49.519 --> 00:34:51.679
<v Speaker 3>is making more money right now to coach, to not

735
00:34:51.840 --> 00:34:54.360
<v Speaker 3>coach Louisville basketball, than Pat Kelsey is. And again I

736
00:34:54.519 --> 00:34:57.239
<v Speaker 3>understand how we got there, and there's really nothing you

737
00:34:57.239 --> 00:34:59.119
<v Speaker 3>can do about it as we speak, but it just

738
00:34:59.199 --> 00:35:00.840
<v Speaker 3>the thought of that insane to me.

739
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<v Speaker 2>All right, quick break, we'll come back on the other side.

740
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<v Speaker 2>Keep it rolling along.

741
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<v Speaker 3>It's coffee and Company. Fiel about Thornton right here on

742
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<v Speaker 3>Sports Talk seven ninety.

743
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<v Speaker 3>So, Jeff Brom had his press conference earlier today to

746
00:35:17.360 --> 00:35:20.480
<v Speaker 3>get set for spring practice, which, believe it or not,

747
00:35:20.760 --> 00:35:24.199
<v Speaker 3>we'll be starting here soon. The weather wouldn't make you

748
00:35:24.280 --> 00:35:27.320
<v Speaker 3>think about football, but sure enough, it'll be here soon.

749
00:35:27.400 --> 00:35:32.159
<v Speaker 3>And Miller Moss is the third consecutive quarterback to transfer

750
00:35:32.280 --> 00:35:34.880
<v Speaker 3>to Louisville and play for Jeff Brom three straight years.

751
00:35:34.920 --> 00:35:38.119
<v Speaker 3>Three guys that are veterans that are coming from the portal.

752
00:35:38.159 --> 00:35:41.400
<v Speaker 3>Started with Jack Plumber obviously last year a great, great

753
00:35:41.440 --> 00:35:44.039
<v Speaker 3>season with Tyler Schuck and now Miller Moss, who transfers

754
00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:48.840
<v Speaker 3>from USC. And I don't know why, but hearing both

755
00:35:48.960 --> 00:35:54.039
<v Speaker 3>Jeff and Miller talked today just about you know, everything,

756
00:35:54.199 --> 00:35:58.440
<v Speaker 3>including getting acclimated and learning the playbook.

757
00:35:58.360 --> 00:36:01.280
<v Speaker 2>And whatnot, I don't know why.

758
00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:03.800
<v Speaker 3>Today there really isn't one thing specifically, but man, it

759
00:36:03.920 --> 00:36:07.559
<v Speaker 3>really felt like this is professional sports and we just

760
00:36:07.719 --> 00:36:11.800
<v Speaker 3>landed a really big addition in free agency.

761
00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:13.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, and that's technically what it is.

762
00:36:14.119 --> 00:36:18.480
<v Speaker 3>I mean that that's the portal and nil money has

763
00:36:18.599 --> 00:36:21.320
<v Speaker 3>made it to where this is now very much professional

764
00:36:21.360 --> 00:36:23.119
<v Speaker 3>sports and it's directly in your face. So that's not

765
00:36:23.280 --> 00:36:26.320
<v Speaker 3>some grand observation that you know, I came up with it,

766
00:36:26.480 --> 00:36:28.840
<v Speaker 3>nobody else has ever observed. But I sometimes just got

767
00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:30.559
<v Speaker 3>to kind of get lost in it as a fan

768
00:36:31.199 --> 00:36:34.239
<v Speaker 3>because there's really nothing that I that I know of

769
00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:37.079
<v Speaker 3>that could could that could change college athletics to where

770
00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:38.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to love it and really want to,

771
00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:42.039
<v Speaker 3>you know, embrace it. We are a college market around here.

772
00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:44.800
<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's a reason we talk college basketball, college

773
00:36:44.840 --> 00:36:47.639
<v Speaker 3>football for you know, the majority of of of the

774
00:36:47.719 --> 00:36:49.320
<v Speaker 3>shows each day, and it's just.

775
00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:49.960
<v Speaker 2>Kind of what it is.

776
00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:53.719
<v Speaker 3>But maybe it's because this is a guy that is

777
00:36:53.800 --> 00:36:56.400
<v Speaker 3>well known. He played against Louisville a couple of years

778
00:36:56.440 --> 00:36:58.280
<v Speaker 3>ago in that bowl game and obviously had the game

779
00:36:58.320 --> 00:37:01.679
<v Speaker 3>of his career. But you know it's also and I

780
00:37:01.719 --> 00:37:03.880
<v Speaker 3>don't mean I don't I'm not bringing this up to

781
00:37:03.960 --> 00:37:07.760
<v Speaker 3>like complain but I just feel like now that guys

782
00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:10.400
<v Speaker 3>can do whatever they want and go play wherever they want,

783
00:37:10.599 --> 00:37:14.119
<v Speaker 3>having a guy like Jeff Brom as your coach, I mean,

784
00:37:14.199 --> 00:37:16.159
<v Speaker 3>I feel like he'd be a real shocker if we

785
00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:19.400
<v Speaker 3>get to a point where there aren't guys like Miller

786
00:37:19.480 --> 00:37:22.199
<v Speaker 3>Moss hoping to get a call from Jeff once they

787
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:25.079
<v Speaker 3>hit the portal because they realize, Hey, I could really

788
00:37:25.159 --> 00:37:28.320
<v Speaker 3>benefit from playing for this guy who you know clearly

789
00:37:28.440 --> 00:37:31.559
<v Speaker 3>understands the position and asks a lot of his quarterback,

790
00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:33.960
<v Speaker 3>demands a lot of his quarterback. I mean, if Tyler

791
00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:37.920
<v Speaker 3>Shuck ends up being drafted where some people are now

792
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:41.199
<v Speaker 3>projecting him to get drafted, I mean, that can only

793
00:37:41.239 --> 00:37:45.159
<v Speaker 3>help Jeff Brom. And I'm not sure how much you're

794
00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:47.719
<v Speaker 3>gonna hear about Brom throughout that I mean you will.

795
00:37:47.800 --> 00:37:51.880
<v Speaker 3>I mean, clearly he had his I mean, Tyler Shuck

796
00:37:51.960 --> 00:37:55.400
<v Speaker 3>is not sniffing any NFL draft boards if he didn't

797
00:37:55.440 --> 00:37:57.320
<v Speaker 3>come to Louisville and have a really good season like

798
00:37:57.400 --> 00:37:59.039
<v Speaker 3>he did playing for Jeff Brom. Now, maybe he would

799
00:37:59.039 --> 00:38:01.039
<v Speaker 3>have still had a good year had he played elsewhere.

800
00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:03.159
<v Speaker 3>So again, I'm not sure how much we're going to

801
00:38:03.199 --> 00:38:06.400
<v Speaker 3>hear about Brom being, you know, such a crucial factor

802
00:38:06.559 --> 00:38:10.159
<v Speaker 3>in Tyler Schuck becoming this guy that looks like he's

803
00:38:10.199 --> 00:38:12.480
<v Speaker 3>probably going to be taken within the top four rounds.

804
00:38:13.199 --> 00:38:16.480
<v Speaker 3>But sure enough, when you're out there looking for quarterbacks

805
00:38:16.519 --> 00:38:19.760
<v Speaker 3>to come and play for you from the portal, I mean,

806
00:38:20.280 --> 00:38:22.840
<v Speaker 3>they're going to know that this guy was not looked

807
00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:25.400
<v Speaker 3>at as an NFL quarterback before he got to Louisville,

808
00:38:25.840 --> 00:38:29.880
<v Speaker 3>Shuck was used differently in ways he would never be

809
00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:34.280
<v Speaker 3>used in the NFL by whoever. His coach was at

810
00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:37.360
<v Speaker 3>Oregon many many years ago, and during his time at

811
00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:40.239
<v Speaker 3>Texas Tech, well, Jeff Brom asked him to do NFL

812
00:38:40.320 --> 00:38:42.360
<v Speaker 3>type things as a quarterback, and he showed some things

813
00:38:42.400 --> 00:38:44.679
<v Speaker 3>with his arm, and he was able to stay healthy

814
00:38:44.679 --> 00:38:47.960
<v Speaker 3>because they weren't running him at all. So I just

815
00:38:48.039 --> 00:38:53.079
<v Speaker 3>think Louisville really with and it's not just these two coaches,

816
00:38:53.159 --> 00:38:55.639
<v Speaker 3>but obviously the coach of your football program, when the

817
00:38:55.639 --> 00:38:57.280
<v Speaker 3>coach of your men's basketball program, I mean, those are

818
00:38:57.280 --> 00:38:58.440
<v Speaker 3>the coaches that are going to get a lot more

819
00:38:58.440 --> 00:39:02.079
<v Speaker 3>attention than anybody else. Just think right now. Who knows,

820
00:39:02.119 --> 00:39:04.400
<v Speaker 3>maybe I'm way wrong and down the line, these guys

821
00:39:04.480 --> 00:39:07.519
<v Speaker 3>don't work out, but I feel like you've got good

822
00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:10.039
<v Speaker 3>coaches in Jeff Brahm and Pat Kelsey, but I feel

823
00:39:10.079 --> 00:39:14.960
<v Speaker 3>like their personality sort of the way they are wired.

824
00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:19.159
<v Speaker 3>It couldn't be better timing given how things have changed

825
00:39:19.199 --> 00:39:21.800
<v Speaker 3>so much. And you gotta be relatable, you gotta guy's

826
00:39:21.800 --> 00:39:24.519
<v Speaker 3>gotta want to play for you, And I feel like

827
00:39:24.599 --> 00:39:27.960
<v Speaker 3>both of those guys have have that element that you

828
00:39:28.000 --> 00:39:30.559
<v Speaker 3>know is very it's it's always been important, but I

829
00:39:30.599 --> 00:39:33.360
<v Speaker 3>feel like it's more so important than it used to be.

830
00:39:33.960 --> 00:39:37.519
<v Speaker 3>You could be the larger than life personality as a

831
00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:41.480
<v Speaker 3>coach with a bunch of championship rings and Final Four appearances,

832
00:39:41.559 --> 00:39:43.639
<v Speaker 3>that kind of stuff, and that, by the way, if

833
00:39:43.679 --> 00:39:46.079
<v Speaker 3>you still have that, there's value there, right Like Rick Patino,

834
00:39:46.599 --> 00:39:48.679
<v Speaker 3>He's not gonna mean, I think he's made some changes

835
00:39:48.719 --> 00:39:50.239
<v Speaker 3>as far as how he's coaching, but like Rick can

836
00:39:50.320 --> 00:39:53.599
<v Speaker 3>still be the guy who you know, screams at people

837
00:39:53.639 --> 00:39:56.119
<v Speaker 3>and demands more out of than they even knew they

838
00:39:56.199 --> 00:39:58.440
<v Speaker 3>had within because he's Rick Patino. But there aren't many

839
00:39:58.559 --> 00:40:01.920
<v Speaker 3>like that, and you can't just become that. So look

840
00:40:01.960 --> 00:40:08.079
<v Speaker 3>with Jeff, I think whenever Louisville played Notre Dame, I remember,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I know I've talked about this before,

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<v Speaker 3>but this stood out to me during the broadcast, and

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<v Speaker 3>it really stood out to me that nobody else seemed

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<v Speaker 3>to really pick up on it. But during the pregame

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<v Speaker 3>leading up to the game against Notre Dame. Obviously the

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<v Speaker 3>TV announcers talk a lot with the staff and they

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<v Speaker 3>get embedded with the programs leading up to the game

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<v Speaker 3>just so they're better prepared to talk about the team

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<v Speaker 3>and the coach and that kind of stuff. And Jason Garrett,

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<v Speaker 3>who was doing color work this year for NBC and

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<v Speaker 3>Peacock because of the Notre Dame broadcast, I mean, he

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<v Speaker 3>basically said that Brahm told him he loves this. He

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<v Speaker 3>loves getting quarterbacks that are veterans that have maybe a

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<v Speaker 3>year maybe two that he can bring in and they've

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<v Speaker 3>played enough to where they're not they're not way behind,

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<v Speaker 3>but obviously he can really in a short amount of

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<v Speaker 3>time get them, get them up the speed, and if

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<v Speaker 3>they've got the talent, then you know you can have

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<v Speaker 3>a very successful offense. And I think Miller Moss is

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<v Speaker 3>going to be exactly that. So I say all this

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<v Speaker 3>to say I won't be shocked if moving forward like

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<v Speaker 3>this is an annual thing, and it already has been

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<v Speaker 3>every year he's been here, that he goes out and

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<v Speaker 3>finds the veteran quarterback from the portal. They make sure

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<v Speaker 3>the anile situation is where it needs to be, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's how he's going to do it. And look, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sure other programs are going to do the same thing,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think with Jeff so far, I really feel

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<v Speaker 3>like he's been able to show that the way things

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<v Speaker 3>are currently operating within college football, especially at the quarterback position,

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<v Speaker 3>he could thrive maybe better than most. All right, quick break,

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<v Speaker 3>We've got the five o'clock.

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<v Speaker 2>Hour coming your way.

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<v Speaker 3>Hopefully it's not snowing yet, because I'm sure traffic's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be a nightmare. But stay safe, everybody. It's coffee

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<v Speaker 3>and company. Feel about Thornton's n Sports Talk seven ninety
