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Speaker 3: eighty coffee. That's me, Austin Montgomery alongside today. I'm not
Speaker 3: sure if it's because I'm having to wear different headphones
Speaker 3: or if it's the voice. But do I sound a
Speaker 3: lot different? I mean, I know people can hear me.
Speaker 3: I don't think I sound like I'm dying, But does
Speaker 3: my voice sound different?
Speaker 2: There's some raspiness o to it?
Speaker 3: Okay, that just gives it more character, right, Yah, of
Speaker 3: course there's a show a lot more care and I'm
Speaker 3: sure more than anything. For me, it's I can't use
Speaker 3: my earbuds today. I'm using the big cans because we
Speaker 3: didn't have the adapter that I needed.
Speaker 2: But anyways, it does not feel like a.
Speaker 3: Tuesday of me, just because the weather and I mean
Speaker 3: me getting sick yesterday it already being kind of a
Speaker 3: holiday for some people.
Speaker 2: We had our offices closed, but we.
Speaker 3: Were also some of us were on air, and you know,
Speaker 3: my kid didn't have school today, probably not gonna have
Speaker 3: school tomorrow. So really, as I said at the beginning
Speaker 3: of the show, today, the beginning of twenty twenty five
Speaker 3: has been just weird. We had a couple of weeks
Speaker 3: there where I felt like we were in rhythm as
Speaker 3: far as routine. We didn't have a lot of things
Speaker 3: that led to us having to close schools that kind
Speaker 3: of stuff. But man, we had a crazy weekend. When
Speaker 3: it comes to the flooding, just really awful, awful situation.
Speaker 3: When it comes to the amount of I mean not
Speaker 3: only the amount of people impacted by but people who've
Speaker 3: lost their life. I mean, after today, Andy Bisheer mentioned
Speaker 3: two deaths in Jefferson County, so that puts it up
Speaker 3: to fourteen people have died due to the flooding, which
Speaker 3: again that's that's it's awful. And now you've got cold
Speaker 3: weather for the next couple of days, really cold weather
Speaker 3: with some snow. We already had some snow come down
Speaker 3: earlier today, and we had some on Sunday, and I
Speaker 3: think three to six inches is what they're mentioning. As
Speaker 3: far as the Kentucky Aanna region when it's all said
Speaker 3: and done, but hopefully it's on the lower end of that.
Speaker 3: But again, if it ends up being more than that,
Speaker 3: I can't I can't say I'm going to be shocked.
Speaker 3: So stay safe, everybody, and hopefully we get warm weather
Speaker 3: here soon so we can get all this mess melted
Speaker 3: and then actually get to some spring temperatures. I love
Speaker 3: the winter weather, always have, but we got enough this
Speaker 3: year to last for a while. So anyways, let's take
Speaker 3: a quick look here at the most updated bracketology.
Speaker 2: From the one and only mister.
Speaker 3: Joey Brackett's he put this out this morning, and top
Speaker 3: overall seed not a surprise Auburn. I don't know how
Speaker 3: much you guys have actually watched Auburn, like up close.
Speaker 3: I didn't watch them a whole lot early on. They've
Speaker 3: been having a phenomenal season and they are the best team.
Speaker 3: But in the last couple of weeks really, since they
Speaker 3: got they're.
Speaker 2: Big man back.
Speaker 3: I kind of think of his name who transferred morehead
Speaker 3: Stag Jenni Broom. Since Broom has been back, I've just
Speaker 3: not really because I'm looking to do it, but I've
Speaker 3: just found myself watching a lot of their games, more
Speaker 3: so than I typically do, especially when they played on
Speaker 3: Saturday against Alabama and Tuscaloosa. I mean, I think Auburn
Speaker 3: right now is kind of quietly become the best team
Speaker 3: in the country. And it's not close. Not to say
Speaker 3: there are no other really good teams, but they, in
Speaker 3: my opinion, are quite literally alone on an island when
Speaker 3: it comes to being the number one overall seed. And
Speaker 3: they do have two losses. They lost to Duke earlier
Speaker 3: this year, but that was a close loss in Cameron,
Speaker 3: and then they slipped up and lost to Florida a
Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago, and that was a tough loss
Speaker 3: for them, but that was right when Jeni Broom was
Speaker 3: kind of getting back into you, back into rhythm.
Speaker 2: So look, they anybody can be beat.
Speaker 3: They're not a team that, you know, we got to
Speaker 3: start talking about are they going to be remembered as
Speaker 3: one of the best teams that ever played in college basketball?
Speaker 3: But I think they are far and away the best
Speaker 3: team in the country, meaning that when they play their best.
Speaker 2: Nobody's beating them.
Speaker 3: Now again, there's some things you can do to make
Speaker 3: them not at their best, and that's been done a
Speaker 3: couple of times. But when you look at because Alabama's
Speaker 3: really good. By the way Alabama in Tuscaloosa, Auburn had
Speaker 3: full control of that game throughout, other than one instance
Speaker 3: where Alabama made a really big run late to tie
Speaker 3: it up and then what did Auburn do? Turn the
Speaker 3: Jets back on and kind of run away with it.
Speaker 3: So they're really, really good. Not a surprise to see
Speaker 3: that they are the number one overall seed, and I
Speaker 3: really I'd be highly shocked if we get to selections
Speaker 3: Sunday and they're not still right there as the number
Speaker 3: one overall seed.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 3: As far as the first team out VCU, and the
Speaker 3: last team in is wake Forest right now, and the
Speaker 3: local teams Louisville, I believe they were, Yeah, there are
Speaker 3: seven right now. According to Lonardi, they'd be playing West
Speaker 3: Virginia in the seven to ten game. Tennessee would be
Speaker 3: the two seas they'd play if it goes chalk in
Speaker 3: that pod, the number one seed in that region is Duke.
Speaker 3: Other notable teams in that region. The three seed there
Speaker 3: is Arizona, who has quietly really bounced back. I mean
Speaker 3: they had a rough start to the season.
Speaker 2: Losing.
Speaker 3: Well, what happened with Arizona is they lost some games
Speaker 3: early on that that I think people didn't realize at
Speaker 3: the time. Like, for example, I think Wisconsin beat Arizona.
Speaker 3: I don't think anybody realized Wisconsin is going to be
Speaker 3: a top ten team. So sure enough, Wisconsin's twenty and
Speaker 3: five and looking like a legitimate top three seed, and
Speaker 3: Arizona they got all again, look at this, Austin.
Speaker 2: I know you.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you have any like if if
Speaker 3: you pull for Arizona, but like that's where you live
Speaker 3: for a long time, so clearly they're of some interest
Speaker 3: to you.
Speaker 2: My favor Wildcat. Let's say that Arizona started the season terrible,
Speaker 2: four and five. They were out of the top twenty five.
Speaker 2: Oh due, they were four and five.
Speaker 3: I mean overall they I mean again, but here's the thing.
Speaker 3: Their losses to with Wisconsin and even in even West
Speaker 3: Virginia and UCLA, like those were games at the time.
Speaker 3: You didn't really know where those teams were going to
Speaker 3: be at the end of the season, but those were
Speaker 3: like right now, those five losses they had before Christmas,
Speaker 3: they're all quality losses. And sure enough, since they got
Speaker 3: into big twelve play. They've been playing a lot better.
Speaker 3: They're up to number twelve right now in the kN Poms.
Speaker 2: So Tommy Lloyd's flipped the switch.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So Arizona, I think they're deserving of being there
Speaker 3: as a three seed as of right now quoting Culinardi.
Speaker 3: And then the four in that region is Michigan State Kentucky.
Speaker 3: They have moved to a well they were. I think
Speaker 3: they were a three on selection. On the selection preview
Speaker 3: on Saturday's.
Speaker 2: I saw the number ten overall seeds.
Speaker 3: So they're still sitting as a three seed. That is
Speaker 3: in the Midwest region. The one seed there's Alabama, two
Speaker 3: is Houston and they'd be playing uncg if if that's
Speaker 3: how it played out. So other one seeds outside of
Speaker 3: Duke and Alabama, Auburn is they're the number one overall seed.
Speaker 3: Florida is a one seed. Two seeds are Tennessee, Texas
Speaker 3: A and m Iowa State in Houston and real quick,
Speaker 3: I wish I could tell you that I believe that
Speaker 3: the SEC is getting too much love, but I don't
Speaker 3: because I think from top to bottom it's the best
Speaker 3: league and I think there's gonna be some teams that
Speaker 3: finish with five hundred or losing records in that league
Speaker 3: that are legitimately good. Now, I will say this, I
Speaker 3: don't think Texas is very good. Maybe they get in,
Speaker 3: and I'm not just saying that because Kentucky has lost
Speaker 3: him Like I don't. I watched Texas enough this year
Speaker 3: to me, they're not one of those teams that I'm like, Wow,
Speaker 3: this is crazy. The SEC is so good, but really
Speaker 3: in their own way. Auburn, Alabama, Florida, Tennessee, A and
Speaker 3: M Missouri, Ole, miss Kentucky of course, Mississippi State, and
Speaker 3: even Vandy because of Vandy's wins against Tennessee and Kentucky.
Speaker 3: Teams that we know are good. Like, all those teams
Speaker 3: are legitimately, in my opinion, bona fide tournament teams. And
Speaker 3: maybe some of them will slip up and lose early.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: But like how many teams that I just name there are.
Speaker 3: How many teams are even in the ACC or the SEC?
Speaker 3: Is it eighteen or sixteen? I think it's sixteen. I
Speaker 3: know eighteens in the ACC. Yeah, so there's sixteen teams
Speaker 3: in the SEC right now, and I think outside of
Speaker 3: South Carolina, LSU Georgia, Oklahoma.
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess that's really it. I mean Arkansas.
Speaker 3: I don't think are I put Arkansas head of Texas
Speaker 3: just because I've watched Arkansas play in stretches, including when
Speaker 3: they played in Lexington to where like you can see, Okay,
Speaker 3: when that team is able to play like that, they're
Speaker 3: gonna be a tough beat for anybody. So I would
Speaker 3: say roughly eleven of your sixteen teams I think are
Speaker 3: not all the same level.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: Obviously, auburns above everybody. That you've got that second tier
Speaker 3: that I believe includes Alabama in Florida, and then I
Speaker 3: would probably include Kentucky and that when fully healthy, but
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's going to be the case
Speaker 3: the rest of the way. So after that, I would
Speaker 3: put Tennessee and Kentucky kind of together. Look, hey, and
Speaker 3: this was a long route for me to get there.
Speaker 3: But the SEC, as much as I wish I could
Speaker 3: tell you that it's that it's not what everybody thinks
Speaker 3: it is, and they're getting way too many teams in
Speaker 3: the tournament, I just don't think that that's true. But
Speaker 3: there are a couple of teams that aren't, like like
Speaker 3: for example, Texas A and M Buzz Williams. They're twenty
Speaker 3: and five right now, nine and three in the league.
Speaker 3: I think they're looked at as a two seed but
Speaker 3: just about everybody or maybe a three. But they like
Speaker 3: they've not they actually, I mean honestly, they're win against
Speaker 3: Texas Tech and Purdue, which were good non conference wins
Speaker 3: like those have value, but outside of that, like they
Speaker 3: haven't even played the best team. I mean, they played
Speaker 3: Alabama in Kentucky, two of the better teams in their league.
Speaker 2: They lost that.
Speaker 3: Their other SEC wins include Texas and Oklahoma. I don't
Speaker 3: think those are big resume wins. They beat LSU, they
Speaker 3: beat Mississippi. In fact, they did lose to Texas. So
Speaker 3: their other wins include Oklahoma, South Carolina, Georgia, and then
Speaker 3: recently Arkansas. So I'm not saying Texas A and M
Speaker 3: is bad at all. They're really good. They're deserving to be,
Speaker 3: you know, talked about as one of the better teams
Speaker 3: in their conference. But they are getting, in my opinion,
Speaker 3: the love of the league being so good right because
Speaker 3: they're gonna look, they still have to play Florida, Auburn, Tennessee.
Speaker 3: So three of their last six games are against top
Speaker 3: five teams, and it's not by design. It just played
Speaker 3: out this way to where Texas A and M happened
Speaker 3: to have probably the most manageable SEC schedule of anybody.
Speaker 3: And again it's just you know its sometimes it's just
Speaker 3: going to play out that way. But it's not to
Speaker 3: say that their schedule is like easy. It's just when
Speaker 3: I look at the teams in the SEC that I
Speaker 3: think are legitimately Final Four quality, they're not one of
Speaker 3: them to me. And maybe I'll be proven wrong, but
Speaker 3: like I think Auburn, Alabama, Florida, Kentucky went healthy, and
Speaker 3: maybe Tennessee. I don't know Tennessee. I the more I
Speaker 3: watched Tennessee, the more I don't know, Like.
Speaker 2: Are they really good or are they like.
Speaker 3: Were they frods? Because they beat the hell out of Louisville. Obviously,
Speaker 3: they got swept by Kentucky. They were down to Vandy
Speaker 3: at home for about ninety percent of that game.
Speaker 2: It seemed. They did beat Florida by twenty, so they're good.
Speaker 3: Look, everybody in the SEC outside of like five teams
Speaker 3: are legitimately good. I just think there's a couple that
Speaker 3: are really benefiting from the league being so good where
Speaker 3: they haven't actually gotten any of those big time signature wins,
Speaker 3: right like some of the you know teams like Florida.
Speaker 3: I mean they lost to Kentucky, but then they beat Auburn.
Speaker 3: I mean that that kind of shows you that, Okay,
Speaker 3: yeah you can you know Kentucky, they've lost to Alabama,
Speaker 3: and they've lost to some other teams they probably shouldn't
Speaker 3: have lost it. But you know what else they did.
Speaker 3: They beat Florida at home, and they swim Tennessee like
Speaker 3: there's no real there's not really anything A and M
Speaker 3: has done. That I think is comparable to where you know,
Speaker 3: you could lose to anybody because the league's so good,
Speaker 3: but then you'll mess around and beat one of the
Speaker 3: best teams. Like they haven't beaten one of the Tier
Speaker 3: one teams in the SEC just yet.
Speaker 2: Maybe they will.
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe I'll be eating crow because again, they play
Speaker 3: three top five teams in the last six games here,
Speaker 3: so Buzz is gonna have a chance to show really
Speaker 3: is what his team can do.
Speaker 2: And clearly, again they're good.
Speaker 3: I already feel like I've made it sound as if
Speaker 3: I'm saying they're frauds. It's just when I see just
Speaker 3: how this league is being seated in the NCAA tournament
Speaker 3: projections right now. I mean some of some of the teams,
Speaker 3: I totally get it. Others I just, you know, I
Speaker 3: don't know if I buy them as being that good.
Speaker 3: But maybe I'm just a hater. But I've tried not
Speaker 3: to be because again, like I I've been getting into it,
Speaker 3: not getting into it.
Speaker 2: That's probably a stretch.
Speaker 3: But like me and my dad have been going back
Speaker 3: and forth Austin about Louisville and in their seeding because
Speaker 3: I don't think Louisville can miss the turn. But I
Speaker 3: do know that if they somehow had a bad night
Speaker 3: and lost to one of these teams left on the schedule,
Speaker 3: that would change sort of the overall view of the resume.
Speaker 3: And that wouldn't mean that I don't think they're as
Speaker 3: good as I did today or even last week. Like
Speaker 3: I know, when this team's playing well, I think I
Speaker 3: think the world of this Louisville team. I don't know
Speaker 3: if they're good enough to you know, make a Final four,
Speaker 3: but I really really like this team. It's just I'm
Speaker 3: looking at it from a pure number situation when it
Speaker 3: comes to the resume, and like, I just think, you know,
Speaker 3: Louisville put it this way, and actually we'll get to
Speaker 3: a break because I want to get to this. On
Speaker 3: the other side, somebody texted in something earlier that I
Speaker 3: want this will give me a chance to kind of
Speaker 3: connect these two things, because there's some people that have
Speaker 3: speculated Louisville is being criminally underrated in the top twenty five,
Speaker 3: and you know what has Louisville got to do to be,
Speaker 3: you know, higher than just twenty five?
Speaker 2: Look at the record And.
Speaker 3: I don't even like to play Devil's advocate because I
Speaker 3: think Louisville is as good as a lot of teams.
Speaker 2: I really do, but I don't. I mean, I don't
Speaker 2: think put it this way.
Speaker 3: If you're somebody that is going to be stunned and
Speaker 3: feeling as if there's they're out to get us on
Speaker 3: selection Sunday, if Louisville's not better than like a seven seed,
Speaker 3: I would just tell you to prepare for that. And
Speaker 3: you know, I don't think. I think Louisvell' is a
Speaker 3: better quality team than that. But also I understand the
Speaker 3: resume is what it is.
Speaker 2: So we'll get to that.
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Speaker 3: So this came in on the text line earlier when
Speaker 3: I was talking about Louisville getting back into the top
Speaker 3: twenty five and how I just I wish I could
Speaker 3: have a variety. I mean, I guess I can. I mean,
Speaker 3: I don't act like it's impossible, but I just what
Speaker 3: makes this fun is being able to just share real
Speaker 3: and honest opinions and be a fan. Like a lot
Speaker 3: of people, I try to be objective and to be
Speaker 3: honest and not just be a homer, but I'm also
Speaker 3: a fan, and to have to talk about Louisville basketball
Speaker 3: the way we did the last couple of years and
Speaker 3: now have this season, it's just been a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: And I'm just kind of lost in the moment where
Speaker 3: I mean, more often than not, I'm just telling you
Speaker 3: guys how fun it is and how much I'm enjoying it,
Speaker 3: and that's probably not super entertaining, But I do know
Speaker 3: that a lot of you are like, hey, no.
Speaker 4: This is.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm sure it is boring to some who
Speaker 3: don't care and don't feel the same way about Louisville
Speaker 3: because you're not a fan, But this is the preference,
Speaker 3: right when you get to being repetitive and it's just
Speaker 3: kind of the same stuff here and there every day.
Speaker 3: Almost it's nice for it to be about good things
Speaker 3: right in Louisville basketball. Just being a twenty win team
Speaker 3: at this point is is something that you could be.
Speaker 3: You could have not got to twenty wins at the
Speaker 3: end of the season and probably still in vision to
Speaker 3: scenario where we would have felt good about the future
Speaker 3: and felt like we hired the right guy. I mean,
Speaker 3: Pat Kelsey has already given us so far a fun
Speaker 3: season that has been successful, and I mean you got
Speaker 3: to think he won't be able to go get a
Speaker 3: bunch of Rainsmiths the rest of his time here, because
Speaker 3: I don't think those guys exist. He's one of the
Speaker 3: best shooters I've ever seen in my life, Chucky Hepburn.
Speaker 3: I mean it sounds crazy to say because he's only
Speaker 3: played twenty six games here, but I mean he's one
Speaker 3: of the best point guards we've had in a long,
Speaker 3: long time.
Speaker 2: So I don't want to act.
Speaker 3: As if like this is going to be something that
Speaker 3: we can just easily recreate every year. However, I mean,
Speaker 3: he just kind of put this together, this roster without
Speaker 3: really any proof of concept, meaning he was getting people
Speaker 3: to come to Louisville before he even showed anybody that
Speaker 3: he could win here. So anyways, this comment came in
Speaker 3: earlier and I wanted to read it for you. It
Speaker 3: says I read it to you. I should say I'm
Speaker 3: still learning how to speak. I don't know why, but
Speaker 3: it feels like I haven't been on the air in
Speaker 3: a long long time. I had a long weekend and
Speaker 3: of course dealing with a little bit of a sickness,
Speaker 3: so I'm a little rusty, so bear with me.
Speaker 2: But it says the AP poll. That just says the
Speaker 2: A people.
Speaker 3: And then he goes on to say louisll is the
Speaker 3: twenty fifth team in the country. But yet we're one
Speaker 3: of twelve teams with twenty wins and we have a
Speaker 3: top fifteen strength to schedule. Meanwhile, teams like Kansas and
Speaker 3: Ole Miss are still in and they keep piling up
Speaker 3: the losses. It just doesn't make sense, well it does.
Speaker 3: I mean, record is I mean, record is not the.
Speaker 2: End all be all.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure there are teams with more wins
Speaker 3: than Louisville that aren't ranked, and it's probably because they
Speaker 3: play in a league that's not good, or they play
Speaker 3: in like a mid major league, or maybe even below that.
Speaker 3: So what I think is just tough for fans to it.
Speaker 3: By the way, let me let me I should have
Speaker 3: threw this out there beforehand before really diving in. Do
Speaker 3: I think Louisville's better than the twenty fifth best team
Speaker 3: in the country.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I can't prove that, but I believe
Speaker 2: they are. When they're playing well.
Speaker 3: I think they're probably closer to a top sixteen type team.
Speaker 3: I really do believe that. I can't prove it, but
Speaker 3: that's what I believe. So this isn't me saying, hey, no,
Speaker 3: you're wrong, Louisville is the twenty fifth ranked team. But
Speaker 3: what we're not used to around here is that the
Speaker 3: league is hurting us in a major way. Now, you
Speaker 3: could take advantage of it and pile up wins like
Speaker 3: they've done, but what really tells you where the ACC
Speaker 3: stands is that Louisville's kicking team's ass and still our
Speaker 3: borderline top twenty five in the NET and in the
Speaker 3: Ken Palm, and of course also in the A. People,
Speaker 3: it's really not that complicated to look and see. Okay, yeah, Louisville,
Speaker 3: they lost to Georgia Tech, and since then, who have
Speaker 3: they been able to go beat? They've beat Boston College, Miami,
Speaker 3: NC State, and Notre Dame. All those teams suck.
Speaker 2: I mean they I mean, I'm.
Speaker 3: Not discrediting Louisville for winning. I mean they won all
Speaker 3: of them by a lot, all of them by double vigions.
Speaker 3: But like those teams aren't good so that those who
Speaker 3: vote aren't gonna think, okay, well, I gotta put Louisville
Speaker 3: back in the top twenty five. Now, clearly they are
Speaker 3: back in the top twenty five, which is good. But
Speaker 3: I mean, we're not used to having four straight league
Speaker 3: games in February results in you not really changing your situation.
Speaker 3: And it's because we're not used to the league being
Speaker 3: this bad. I mean, I can't think of any other
Speaker 3: time where Louisville has been a good team of course
Speaker 3: and played in Rather it be the ACC, the American
Speaker 3: for the one year of the Big East, even I
Speaker 3: don't even Conference USA maybe, like the league is what
Speaker 3: it is, you can't control it.
Speaker 2: It doesn't mean Louisville's not really good.
Speaker 3: It's just you don't have as many opportunities to really
Speaker 3: make a statement at all. And that's why I've said, really,
Speaker 3: since they beat SMU and Wake Forest, I feel like
Speaker 3: you have very little to.
Speaker 2: Gain in a whole lot to lose.
Speaker 3: I mean, looking at I don't have the eight peop
Speaker 3: pole pulled up in front of me, but I mean,
Speaker 3: and by the way, Louislle strength of schedules not top
Speaker 3: fifteen like you said, because again it was at one point,
Speaker 3: but now they're playing lousy teams, so their strength of
Speaker 3: schedule is dropping like crazy. I mean, as of right now,
Speaker 3: Louisville strength to schedule, it's not terrible, but like right now,
Speaker 3: louis strength of schedules thirty six in the country, so
Speaker 3: they're twenty and six, and and you know, they haven't
Speaker 3: played as tough as the schedule as you would have expected.
Speaker 3: Imagine if they did not have a loaded non conference
Speaker 3: schedule that featured the likes of.
Speaker 2: Kentucky. I mean, actually I may have walked myself into this.
Speaker 3: The loaded non conference schedule isn't as loaded now as
Speaker 3: we thought it was Tennessee and Kentucky.
Speaker 2: But Indiana's not good. West Virginia is not.
Speaker 3: I mean, these aren't These aren't non conference opponents that
Speaker 3: look really like Oh wow, I mean West Virginia, Indiana, Oklahoma,
Speaker 3: like those are teams that are our quality as far
Speaker 3: as you know.
Speaker 2: Your schedule. Oh Miss is the top twenty five.
Speaker 3: Team, so you know that that's a that's a that's
Speaker 3: a good non conference opponent. So look, I mean, all
Speaker 3: I'm trying to say is that if you are somebody
Speaker 3: that thinks that Louisville is being disrespected by where they
Speaker 3: come in in the ape Pole, or maybe even you
Speaker 3: think they're being disrespected by those who put together bracketology updates,
Speaker 3: I'm not telling you that you're wrong. I just I'm
Speaker 3: trying to give you, I guess a scenario as to
Speaker 3: why they view it that way.
Speaker 2: And also I'm trying to give.
Speaker 3: You, I guess a little bit of a heads up
Speaker 3: that you should just be prepared because I mean, Louisville
Speaker 3: winning these next five games by double digits is simply
Speaker 3: gonna be what they're supposed to do.
Speaker 2: And if you're just staying status quo.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you might end up with a twenty five and
Speaker 3: six record going into conference play, but that may not
Speaker 3: result in you really changing your status as far as
Speaker 3: where you're projected to be going in the tournament and
Speaker 3: really where you are in the net or the ap pole,
Speaker 3: whatever it may be, which, of course, the ape pole
Speaker 3: is a human thing, like it's a vote, it's everybody.
Speaker 3: You know, there's I don't know how many, but many
Speaker 3: people have a ballot they put it together.
Speaker 2: So again, I think.
Speaker 3: Louisville is as good as a lot of teams when
Speaker 3: they're playing well. And really, what makes me even more
Speaker 3: bullish on them is I think what makes them a
Speaker 3: tough matchup, what makes them a team that I believe
Speaker 3: is top sixteen, top seventeen, eighteen. It's not based off luck.
Speaker 3: I mean, you're gonna need to make shots, but I
Speaker 3: mean defensively they're pretty good and that leads to them
Speaker 3: being able to get high percentage looks elsewhere. So again,
Speaker 3: I don't want to make it sound as if I'm
Speaker 3: telling you, hey, no, you're wrong, Louisville's not a top
Speaker 3: twenty five team, or they're right at twenty five I
Speaker 3: just think if you consider that their best win is Clemson,
Speaker 3: and really there's no other win that is nearly as
Speaker 3: good as Clemson, and Clemson is borderline at Clemson's the
Speaker 3: seven seed. Your best win is against the seven seed.
Speaker 3: And the only scenario that you will have where you
Speaker 3: end up getting a better win than that is if
Speaker 3: you play Duke in the a SC tournament and you
Speaker 3: beat them, which certainly that could happen.
Speaker 2: They'd be great, they'd be huge.
Speaker 3: But I just what I wanted to what I wanted
Speaker 3: to emphasize, is that we can we can acknowledge that
Speaker 3: Louisville is going to be a tough matchup for a
Speaker 3: lot of teams in the tournament if they keep playing well,
Speaker 3: because I don't think we're homers and saying no, this
Speaker 3: team's for real. But when you look at you know data,
Speaker 3: that stuff matters too, and the best win's Clemson, and.
Speaker 2: The league is is what it is.
Speaker 3: I mean, Florida State, Virginia, Pittsburgh, Callen Stanford, those are
Speaker 3: your last five games. You could win by twenty plus
Speaker 3: and I wouldn't be shocked because again, we know Louisville's
Speaker 3: capable of blowing out all these teams. But I just
Speaker 3: don't know if that's going to do enough to bump
Speaker 3: you up in the net. And I also don't know
Speaker 3: if that's going to make much of an impression on
Speaker 3: those that vote in the eight people and that doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: Eight people doesn't matter, but clearly people value it, right,
Speaker 3: I mean, that's what people talk about more than anything.
Speaker 2: I mean, the.
Speaker 3: NCAA selection committee does not factor in the top twenty
Speaker 3: five A people at all, but you know, it's what
Speaker 3: still gets reference more than anything. When you talk about
Speaker 3: a team and where they are, they're not talking about
Speaker 3: their projected seed line, they're not talking about their net
Speaker 3: They're talking about that number that's next to their name
Speaker 3: on the score bug when they're playing.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's very.
Speaker 3: Much in your face. And look, it's nice to be
Speaker 3: ranked again. It's just you know, at the grand scheme
Speaker 3: of things, it doesn't really matter, and you know, the
Speaker 3: league just needs to be better. I mean, Poolville is
Speaker 3: a factor in that too, because hey, we were the
Speaker 3: worst team in this awful basketball league that it's become
Speaker 3: in the last couple of years. But now we're not
Speaker 3: and we're beating up on these teams and it's just
Speaker 3: unfortunately it doesn't It doesn't give you a whole lot
Speaker 3: of value like it usually does. All right, Babo, tub
Speaker 3: I've seven. See hundred is the number. If you guys
Speaker 3: want to jump in and give us a call, let's
Speaker 3: go to Jerry. Jerry, what's happening?
Speaker 4: Hey, Nick, I'm gonna throw a lot at you real quick. Okay,
Speaker 4: So good talking talking about seeds. Here's the way I
Speaker 4: look at it. I had a discussion with a guy yesterday.
Speaker 4: I think right now U of L has more pressure
Speaker 4: on them to win every game and to have and
Speaker 4: to finish strong than Kentucky does. Okay, because they get
Speaker 4: a pass because of all this totally unbelievable and we
Speaker 4: can't afford to drop one. Okay, So so I'll give
Speaker 4: you our seed range. In my opinion, I think we
Speaker 4: could be anywhere, and I might be a little high
Speaker 4: on my high number or or you know, my my
Speaker 4: best number. I'm gonna say we're going to be a
Speaker 4: three to an eight. How do you get to a three?
Speaker 4: You run the table, you go five and zero, Then
Speaker 4: you get in the ACC tournament, you get to the final,
Speaker 4: and you beat Duke. That's the way you get to
Speaker 4: a three. If you get to the final and lose
Speaker 4: the Duke, you're going to be a four or five.
Speaker 4: I think, how do you be an eight? You go
Speaker 4: four and one and you have a mediocre performance and
Speaker 4: you flame out before the final in the ACC tournament.
Speaker 3: I think that's the rain not I could not agree
Speaker 3: more whether every scenario you laid out.
Speaker 2: I think the ceiling is the three.
Speaker 3: And it would take you needing even need to beat
Speaker 3: Duke to do it. I think if you end up
Speaker 3: losing the Duke but you beat Clemson again, I think
Speaker 3: you're I totally agree.
Speaker 4: With you, okay about the Notre Dame game. Right now,
Speaker 4: I'm already spoiled, okay, so I have very high expectations
Speaker 4: they've spoiled me going to SMU and killing them. So
Speaker 4: I wasn't really that and I wasn't really that happy
Speaker 4: with the Notre Dame game. I was glad we won
Speaker 4: fifteens in nice margin, blah blah uh it. You know,
Speaker 4: I'm not sure on here to killing. But you know,
Speaker 4: I thought chucky man the five turnovers and some of
Speaker 4: them were terrible. You know, I was really a little
Speaker 4: disappointed in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was sloppy and kind of awkward at times,
Speaker 3: especially early, just kind of felt weird.
Speaker 4: Okay, I got two more uh two more topics real quick.
Speaker 4: Number one, I know that your show isn't on anymore postgame.
Speaker 4: All I can tell you is this, reading Twitter and
Speaker 4: reading a few things after the eight o'clock game the
Speaker 4: other night. There's a lot of fans that are starving
Speaker 4: for that. And I don't, I don't. I don't begrudge you,
Speaker 4: especially you know, and I know you said there are
Speaker 4: circumstances beyond your control blah blah blah. But with an
Speaker 4: eight o'clock or a nine o'clock start, the fans are
Speaker 4: starving for that, especially the away games. I don't blame
Speaker 4: you for not wanting to do the home games, even
Speaker 4: if you had the opportunity to again. But but I
Speaker 4: wanted to throw that out there. And then I got
Speaker 4: one more thing. Of course you weren't on yesterday. I
Speaker 4: bounced around, listened to a lot of shows talking about
Speaker 4: Kelsey's contract on a show and he's at two point
Speaker 4: three right now. I want to know where do you
Speaker 4: think they land with his salary? And then I got
Speaker 4: one more thing. A while back, I talked about hurt
Speaker 4: hurt need to be physically responsible with this contract, and
Speaker 4: I didn't. I didn't get to finish my thought for
Speaker 4: some reason that day. And I want I want to
Speaker 4: do it now. Okay, there was one contract here locally,
Speaker 4: and it was up at IU with a football coach,
Speaker 4: Tom Allen, where he hit the He he looked like,
Speaker 4: maybe not as hot as Kelsey right now, but he
Speaker 4: looked really good, right and they and they went all
Speaker 4: in on him, and then they got burned by it
Speaker 4: because they're paying through the nose for Tom Allen right now,
Speaker 4: the way I see it, pay Kelsey huge money up front,
Speaker 4: but the badge, you know, in case things were to
Speaker 4: go south to by its should never be and I
Speaker 4: don't think they will. I like the guy. I think
Speaker 4: it's gonna work out, but I think the buyout should
Speaker 4: be in U of L's favor. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I mean, look, look look at look again, look at
Speaker 4: how they got burned by Tom Allen. But anyway, that's
Speaker 4: all I got.
Speaker 2: What did you say currently, Jerry? Who pat? Is it
Speaker 2: two point something? That was okay?
Speaker 4: Chief than paid Kenny Payne. They paid Kenny Payne three
Speaker 4: point two for God's sake, you're you kidding me.
Speaker 2: Appreciate.
Speaker 3: So let's start with the well, I'll start with the
Speaker 3: the postgame show thing. I mean it is quite literally
Speaker 3: out of out of I mean really it's out of
Speaker 3: everybody's control, to be honest with you.
Speaker 2: And I mean, we just don't have resources here right
Speaker 2: now to be able to do that without.
Speaker 3: Running it up the ladder to higher ups to people
Speaker 3: that you know, don't even know who I am. I mean,
Speaker 3: iHeartMedia is a huge company. So with and we did
Speaker 3: start the season doing basketball those game shows, and we
Speaker 3: had a plan and then that plan kind of got
Speaker 3: derailed with with some cuts that were made that just
Speaker 3: limited us as far as the resources we have here.
Speaker 2: And you know that that that's totally out of my control.
Speaker 3: I know that there's there's a real and look, it
Speaker 3: was huge for me to be able to do the
Speaker 3: games football and basketball as soon as they ended once
Speaker 3: we no longer carried the Learfield product. I mean that
Speaker 3: that benefited us, it benefited me. Uh And and it
Speaker 3: sounds awful because it was really a funeral after every
Speaker 3: basketball game, it seemed during the Kinny Payne era.
Speaker 2: But that you know, they're the.
Speaker 3: People who really are you know, die hards and just
Speaker 3: you know, obsessed with Louisville basketball, good or bad. We
Speaker 3: we were, we were reaching a lot of people, and
Speaker 3: it just you know, way above my pay grade. Not
Speaker 3: something I can control at all. But I do believe
Speaker 3: that one day we'll be back to having that, and
Speaker 3: I mean we will. I mean I shouldn't say I
Speaker 3: believe we will. It's just this season.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure.
Speaker 3: Now. There may be some there may be some situations
Speaker 3: to where we can you know, postgame for acc tournament
Speaker 3: instead of a tournament, Like we may be able to
Speaker 3: work something out to be able to make that happen.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I miss doing them. You know, it certainly
Speaker 3: would be fun to have done a lot of these
Speaker 3: postgame shows after these wins, because it really is the
Speaker 3: exact opposite. Now it's not like you're beating top ten
Speaker 3: teams every night, but I mean to be able to
Speaker 3: have really the exact opposite of what we did for
Speaker 3: two years straight, which is just to go on the
Speaker 3: air as soon as the game ends and react in
Speaker 3: the moment whenever you're watching this team blow teams out
Speaker 3: and going through what Pat Kelsey calls the revival. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 3: it would have been fun, but you know, out of
Speaker 3: my control, all right. So with pat Kelsey, I think
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, he clearly is going to
Speaker 3: need a new contract if he continues to show that
Speaker 3: he is taking you know, because Louisville offered him a
Speaker 3: Louisville's paying him currently, probably less than they've paid any
Speaker 3: coach in Gosh. I don't know, Like when does Rick
Speaker 3: Patino ever make less than that at Louisville. I feel
Speaker 3: like he didn't, and you know, he's Rick Patino. Pat
Speaker 3: Kelsey's not. So I think it made sense to get
Speaker 3: him at that rate. And honestly, I think you knew
Speaker 3: you could get him, but the cheap, which is probably
Speaker 3: one of the many things that Josh Hurd considered when
Speaker 3: he decided, Hey, this is who I want to offer
Speaker 3: the job to. But now, you know, I think what
Speaker 3: it really comes down to. And this is just me speculating,
Speaker 3: pure speculation, just really guessing. If Louisville makes the second weekend,
Speaker 3: I think he has a new contract next year. If
Speaker 3: Louisville makes the tournament and loses in the round of
Speaker 3: thirty two, he might have another contract next year, or
Speaker 3: it might be a situation to where they rework it
Speaker 3: after the following season. So one thing's one of the
Speaker 3: things that makes it really tough to predict is that
Speaker 3: the way in which these schools pay ungodly amount of
Speaker 3: money to these coaches. Part of me says that's never
Speaker 3: gonna change. So what will likely change is the buyout
Speaker 3: structure just to cover the we're in. These schools are
Speaker 3: now having to share revenue with athletes, meaning they got
Speaker 3: a twenty million dollar bill annually now to pay players.
Speaker 3: They didn't used to have that right, So you got
Speaker 3: to be super mindful of every little thing you're doing
Speaker 3: in what it could eventually cost you down the line.
Speaker 3: So if you if you have a big time contract
Speaker 3: for Pat Kelcey, but yet if you end up firing him,
Speaker 3: the buyout is not what it's been in recent years
Speaker 3: in college sports, or really not even recent years for
Speaker 3: a long time, Like there's no scenario Kenny Payne should
Speaker 3: have ever gotten the contract he got and I'm not
Speaker 3: even talking about hiring him, but like what they paid
Speaker 3: him never made since, and what his buyout was never
Speaker 3: made sense. And I just feel like moving forward in
Speaker 3: college athletics, these coaches are still gonna make a lot
Speaker 3: of money. But I would imagine their buyouts are gonna
Speaker 3: be are gonna be different, or at least they should be,
Speaker 3: because those have never made sense, Like it's robbery. I
Speaker 3: know that there are certain industries where you can you
Speaker 3: can be fired and yet they're still going to pay
Speaker 3: you the salary they agree to pay you. I mean,
Speaker 3: that's that's well, what's my industry. I mean, there's a
Speaker 3: lot of people who end up not finishing their contract,
Speaker 3: but they're still getting paid and then there's a non
Speaker 3: compete in there, so like, but but the amount, I mean,
Speaker 3: like you could be like the fact that you could
Speaker 3: be a terrible coach and lose every game and that's
Speaker 3: not considered cause to fire you, Like that's insanity and
Speaker 3: that's probably never going to change as far as the stipulation.
Speaker 3: But the the the buyouts that that that that's the
Speaker 3: most that's the easiest and most obvious thing to fix
Speaker 3: as far as really counting every little penny you're spending
Speaker 3: because you now have more mean, Look, there's coaches already
Speaker 3: that are that are making adjustments to their salary because
Speaker 3: they realize the school needs to save money. And oh,
Speaker 3: by the way money needs to go towards nil. So
Speaker 3: I think Pat Kelsey will be here long term. I'm
Speaker 3: not at all worried about him on that low end
Speaker 3: deal getting plucked away from here, because if it came
Speaker 3: down to that, LOUISLL would do whatever they have to
Speaker 3: do to keep their coach. But if you know that,
Speaker 3: why not just do it now? Well, I think the
Speaker 3: answer is because they're clearly not in a great position
Speaker 3: financially because of what's happened in recent years.
Speaker 2: So again, I think he'll be here long term.
Speaker 3: I just don't know if he's the kind of guy
Speaker 3: that is going to be pushing for a new contract
Speaker 3: or maybe they're already working on it. I don't know,
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean to see that he's making two
Speaker 3: point three, two point four, whatever it is. That's a
Speaker 3: lot of money to coach basketball, trust me. And it's
Speaker 3: a big pay raise for Pat.
Speaker 2: Kelsey from where he was. But you know, Louisll's Louisville,
Speaker 2: and I don't know.
Speaker 3: It just kind of feels crazy knowing that Kenny Payne
Speaker 3: is making more money right now to coach, to not
Speaker 3: coach Louisville basketball, than Pat Kelsey is. And again I
Speaker 3: understand how we got there, and there's really nothing you
Speaker 3: can do about it as we speak, but it just
Speaker 3: the thought of that insane to me.
Speaker 2: All right, quick break, we'll come back on the other side.
Speaker 2: Keep it rolling along.
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Speaker 3: So, Jeff Brom had his press conference earlier today to
Speaker 3: get set for spring practice, which, believe it or not,
Speaker 3: we'll be starting here soon. The weather wouldn't make you
Speaker 3: think about football, but sure enough, it'll be here soon.
Speaker 3: And Miller Moss is the third consecutive quarterback to transfer
Speaker 3: to Louisville and play for Jeff Brom three straight years.
Speaker 3: Three guys that are veterans that are coming from the portal.
Speaker 3: Started with Jack Plumber obviously last year a great, great
Speaker 3: season with Tyler Schuck and now Miller Moss, who transfers
Speaker 3: from USC. And I don't know why, but hearing both
Speaker 3: Jeff and Miller talked today just about you know, everything,
Speaker 3: including getting acclimated and learning the playbook.
Speaker 2: And whatnot, I don't know why.
Speaker 3: Today there really isn't one thing specifically, but man, it
Speaker 3: really felt like this is professional sports and we just
Speaker 3: landed a really big addition in free agency.
Speaker 2: I mean, and that's technically what it is.
Speaker 3: I mean that that's the portal and nil money has
Speaker 3: made it to where this is now very much professional
Speaker 3: sports and it's directly in your face. So that's not
Speaker 3: some grand observation that you know, I came up with it,
Speaker 3: nobody else has ever observed. But I sometimes just got
Speaker 3: to kind of get lost in it as a fan
Speaker 3: because there's really nothing that I that I know of
Speaker 3: that could could that could change college athletics to where
Speaker 3: I'm not going to love it and really want to,
Speaker 3: you know, embrace it. We are a college market around here.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's a reason we talk college basketball, college
Speaker 3: football for you know, the majority of of of the
Speaker 3: shows each day, and it's just.
Speaker 2: Kind of what it is.
Speaker 3: But maybe it's because this is a guy that is
Speaker 3: well known. He played against Louisville a couple of years
Speaker 3: ago in that bowl game and obviously had the game
Speaker 3: of his career. But you know it's also and I
Speaker 3: don't mean I don't I'm not bringing this up to
Speaker 3: like complain but I just feel like now that guys
Speaker 3: can do whatever they want and go play wherever they want,
Speaker 3: having a guy like Jeff Brom as your coach, I mean,
Speaker 3: I feel like he'd be a real shocker if we
Speaker 3: get to a point where there aren't guys like Miller
Speaker 3: Moss hoping to get a call from Jeff once they
Speaker 3: hit the portal because they realize, Hey, I could really
Speaker 3: benefit from playing for this guy who you know clearly
Speaker 3: understands the position and asks a lot of his quarterback,
Speaker 3: demands a lot of his quarterback. I mean, if Tyler
Speaker 3: Shuck ends up being drafted where some people are now
Speaker 3: projecting him to get drafted, I mean, that can only
Speaker 3: help Jeff Brom. And I'm not sure how much you're
Speaker 3: gonna hear about Brom throughout that I mean you will.
Speaker 3: I mean, clearly he had his I mean, Tyler Shuck
Speaker 3: is not sniffing any NFL draft boards if he didn't
Speaker 3: come to Louisville and have a really good season like
Speaker 3: he did playing for Jeff Brom. Now, maybe he would
Speaker 3: have still had a good year had he played elsewhere.
Speaker 3: So again, I'm not sure how much we're going to
Speaker 3: hear about Brom being, you know, such a crucial factor
Speaker 3: in Tyler Schuck becoming this guy that looks like he's
Speaker 3: probably going to be taken within the top four rounds.
Speaker 3: But sure enough, when you're out there looking for quarterbacks
Speaker 3: to come and play for you from the portal, I mean,
Speaker 3: they're going to know that this guy was not looked
Speaker 3: at as an NFL quarterback before he got to Louisville,
Speaker 3: Shuck was used differently in ways he would never be
Speaker 3: used in the NFL by whoever. His coach was at
Speaker 3: Oregon many many years ago, and during his time at
Speaker 3: Texas Tech, well, Jeff Brom asked him to do NFL
Speaker 3: type things as a quarterback, and he showed some things
Speaker 3: with his arm, and he was able to stay healthy
Speaker 3: because they weren't running him at all. So I just
Speaker 3: think Louisville really with and it's not just these two coaches,
Speaker 3: but obviously the coach of your football program, when the
Speaker 3: coach of your men's basketball program, I mean, those are
Speaker 3: the coaches that are going to get a lot more
Speaker 3: attention than anybody else. Just think right now. Who knows,
Speaker 3: maybe I'm way wrong and down the line, these guys
Speaker 3: don't work out, but I feel like you've got good
Speaker 3: coaches in Jeff Brahm and Pat Kelsey, but I feel
Speaker 3: like their personality sort of the way they are wired.
Speaker 3: It couldn't be better timing given how things have changed
Speaker 3: so much. And you gotta be relatable, you gotta guy's
Speaker 3: gotta want to play for you, And I feel like
Speaker 3: both of those guys have have that element that you
Speaker 3: know is very it's it's always been important, but I
Speaker 3: feel like it's more so important than it used to be.
Speaker 3: You could be the larger than life personality as a
Speaker 3: coach with a bunch of championship rings and Final Four appearances,
Speaker 3: that kind of stuff, and that, by the way, if
Speaker 3: you still have that, there's value there, right Like Rick Patino,
Speaker 3: He's not gonna mean, I think he's made some changes
Speaker 3: as far as how he's coaching, but like Rick can
Speaker 3: still be the guy who you know, screams at people
Speaker 3: and demands more out of than they even knew they
Speaker 3: had within because he's Rick Patino. But there aren't many
Speaker 3: like that, and you can't just become that. So look
Speaker 3: with Jeff, I think whenever Louisville played Notre Dame, I remember,
Speaker 3: I don't know, I know I've talked about this before,
Speaker 3: but this stood out to me during the broadcast, and
Speaker 3: it really stood out to me that nobody else seemed
Speaker 3: to really pick up on it. But during the pregame
Speaker 3: leading up to the game against Notre Dame. Obviously the
Speaker 3: TV announcers talk a lot with the staff and they
Speaker 3: get embedded with the programs leading up to the game
Speaker 3: just so they're better prepared to talk about the team
Speaker 3: and the coach and that kind of stuff. And Jason Garrett,
Speaker 3: who was doing color work this year for NBC and
Speaker 3: Peacock because of the Notre Dame broadcast, I mean, he
Speaker 3: basically said that Brahm told him he loves this. He
Speaker 3: loves getting quarterbacks that are veterans that have maybe a
Speaker 3: year maybe two that he can bring in and they've
Speaker 3: played enough to where they're not they're not way behind,
Speaker 3: but obviously he can really in a short amount of
Speaker 3: time get them, get them up the speed, and if
Speaker 3: they've got the talent, then you know you can have
Speaker 3: a very successful offense. And I think Miller Moss is
Speaker 3: going to be exactly that. So I say all this
Speaker 3: to say I won't be shocked if moving forward like
Speaker 3: this is an annual thing, and it already has been
Speaker 3: every year he's been here, that he goes out and
Speaker 3: finds the veteran quarterback from the portal. They make sure
Speaker 3: the anile situation is where it needs to be, and
Speaker 3: that's how he's going to do it. And look, I'm
Speaker 3: sure other programs are going to do the same thing,
Speaker 3: but I think with Jeff so far, I really feel
Speaker 3: like he's been able to show that the way things
Speaker 3: are currently operating within college football, especially at the quarterback position,
Speaker 3: he could thrive maybe better than most. All right, quick break,
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