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Speaker 2: Yeah, hi, and welcome back to another episode of Deplorable Nation.
Speaker 2: I'm your host, Deplorable Janet, and today I have one
Speaker 2: of my very best friends in the whole entire world,
Speaker 2: and I'm so very thankful for her each and every day,
Speaker 2: Miss Heidi, miss returning guest, How are you my bestie?
Speaker 3: I am good bestie, And we've been cutting it up
Speaker 3: for a minute and talking, which I love. Janet's amazing,
Speaker 3: She's one of my bestie booths. And we get to
Speaker 3: get on here. How much fun is it that we
Speaker 3: just get to get on here and also talk and
Speaker 3: teach people stuff, right, exact funnily right?
Speaker 2: And I'm I I'm super excited about the topic that
Speaker 2: we're doing today because you and Ellie and I were
Speaker 2: on a show before, and it was either before or
Speaker 2: after we were recording. You guys had mentioned this, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, what, I'm like, never heard of it, So
Speaker 2: I had to dive down a rabbit hole. And I
Speaker 2: know that may sound weird to some people that somebody
Speaker 2: with the medical background does not know something in the
Speaker 2: medical community, but it happens all the time.
Speaker 3: So there's too many things.
Speaker 2: Yes, And my brain is like the size of a peanut,
Speaker 2: so you know, I'm trying to expand it at all times.
Speaker 2: So today I'm super excited to talk about this because
Speaker 2: it is highly interesting to me. And after researching on this,
Speaker 2: I wonder if there aren't more people who have it
Speaker 2: who have never been diagnosed, or the doctors themselves have
Speaker 2: never heard of it, because that happens all the time too.
Speaker 3: So yes, I think that most people don't get diagnosed
Speaker 3: in general until middle age because of the fact. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's getting a little better now because it's more awareness,
Speaker 3: But I mean one in two hundred thousand is all
Speaker 3: they say it is. I don't think, so I think
Speaker 3: that it's way more.
Speaker 2: I do too, because something else I was reading said,
Speaker 2: like one in five thousand people or something is diagnosed
Speaker 2: with this, and this is Ailers dan Los syndrome, which
Speaker 2: is a very interesting thing because it has so many multifacets.
Speaker 2: Now I am curious. I'm going to pick your brain.
Speaker 3: Because I'm going to show you my parlor tricks too cool.
Speaker 2: I can't wait because you and Ellie both have this,
Speaker 2: So I want you to tell me, like about you,
Speaker 2: like how old were you when they discovered this, and
Speaker 2: what type do you have and all of the good
Speaker 2: stuff that goes along with it.
Speaker 3: So there's a bunch of different types of Elers Dawn lists.
Speaker 3: And I know that as a kid, I knew something
Speaker 3: was up, but I didn't know what until I was
Speaker 3: quite old, until I was in my mid thirties, and
Speaker 3: then I had an idea, but the doctor would not
Speaker 3: diagnose me because it is considered like fibromyalsia, like it's
Speaker 3: pooh pooed in the medical community, even though it's a
Speaker 3: real legitimate like DNA test, like you could check it out,
Speaker 3: like it's a thing. And it's kind of a sub
Speaker 3: a subpar part of like Marfan syndrome, which is when
Speaker 3: people are really tall and stuff, which my dad and
Speaker 3: Grandpa and that whole side of the family probably do
Speaker 3: have Marfan syndrome. They look like they do. You know,
Speaker 3: they're very tall. I always joke it's like the nephalem right, No,
Speaker 3: the me not really people. So when I had once
Speaker 3: it yeah, and so definitely werefolo of me and Janet
Speaker 3: are silly, so you'll have to excuse us stuff. But
Speaker 3: when I was young, I would sublux my ankle constantly,
Speaker 3: and they used to make fun of me. Oh, your
Speaker 3: feet grew fast. Oh, you're just tall and clumsy, because
Speaker 3: I am. I'm five foot nine. Well, after my back surgery,
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure i'm five foot eight now. But anyways, whatever,
Speaker 3: I was five foot nine most of my life, and
Speaker 3: I grew really fast. I was by fifth grade. I
Speaker 3: was a grown up five foot nine lady. I got it.
Speaker 3: I got mistaken at school for a teacher, like weird stuff,
Speaker 3: you know, and so I would fall all the time,
Speaker 3: and I just would trip over my like over air nothing.
Speaker 3: And I have size ten feet, So I mean, okay,
Speaker 3: you know, like it makes sense. And so your parents
Speaker 3: kind of in the eighties, especially because I grew up
Speaker 3: in the eighties, nobody cared unless you were dying. It
Speaker 3: wasn't a thing.
Speaker 2: You better better have a limb that was solid off
Speaker 2: and it's just hanging there before you go the doctor.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and so I was constantly embraces and then you know,
Speaker 3: the air casts and tearing ligaments, and I didn't know
Speaker 3: what the hell was really wrong with me. But finally,
Speaker 3: this is gonna sound insane, but this was a blessing.
Speaker 3: When I was about nine or ten, I think I
Speaker 3: was closer to ten, I finally broke the sucker and
Speaker 3: I broke it and walked on it for three days
Speaker 3: because my parents were like, will you do this all
Speaker 3: the time? And I mean I walked to school everything.
Speaker 3: It finally it blew up through doctor.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like wrap it up, too bad for you,
Speaker 3: you know, and I did. They helped me with that,
Speaker 3: but they were kind of like geez kid, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: I know, but it's hurting. And so finally it did
Speaker 3: swell up like shit, I mean, it was bad. So
Speaker 3: it went like a baseball and finally I got to
Speaker 3: get an X ray and it was broken. And it
Speaker 3: was a blessing because it created enough enough scar tissue
Speaker 3: in ankle to stabilize it. Thank heavens because I was
Speaker 3: constantly tearing my ligaments over and over, and I was
Speaker 3: in that cast almost the whole year because it just
Speaker 3: didn't want to heal, which is another side effect of
Speaker 3: Eeler's danlos. And so I had no knowledge of this.
Speaker 3: I have very buttery soft skin. Anybody that's ever touched
Speaker 3: my hands or you know anything, they're like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 3: like what lotion to use. I'm like, no, I don't
Speaker 3: use If I use lotion, like maybe bath and body
Speaker 3: if I want to smell good, but I'm not lathering
Speaker 3: every couple of minutes. This is just how it is. Also,
Speaker 3: it tears really easy, like if you do the wrong thing,
Speaker 3: you're gonna you're your finger. And you know, just crazy
Speaker 3: stuff that doesn't happen to normal people. You become. My
Speaker 3: ex husband thought I was a hypochondriac, and I'm like, no,
Speaker 3: this is like a real problem. Like I'm having these problems.
Speaker 3: And I have very translucent you can see all of
Speaker 3: my veins and you know skin, and I have scoliosis.
Speaker 3: I have a double S curve, so it's mild, so
Speaker 3: that's lucky, but it's still there. And so I have
Speaker 3: the hyper flexibility type, and I had no clue. I
Speaker 3: just thought it was fun parlor tricks when I was
Speaker 3: a kid. So one of them is is they say,
Speaker 3: you know, when you put your hand out, it probably
Speaker 3: is like this. When I can, I can put my
Speaker 3: hand out. It can be at a ninety degree angle
Speaker 3: or further, and that's completely normal for me. And so
Speaker 3: then they test you, like if you can do this
Speaker 3: and go down or if you backwards like that? That's
Speaker 3: my funnest one like that way my elbows do it.
Speaker 3: My knees do it, and my knees. Let's put a
Speaker 3: lot of pressure on my knees because people stand like this,
Speaker 3: well I stand like that so that it bows out
Speaker 3: in the back. I have to consciously make myself not same.
Speaker 3: So you may have That's something.
Speaker 2: When I was researching this, I'm like, I wholeheartedly, ninety
Speaker 2: nine percent sure that I have this too, because I
Speaker 2: have the paper thin skin, but it's really soft. I
Speaker 2: have drmatographia. You can ride on my skin. I can.
Speaker 2: I have very stretchy skin. I can pull it up
Speaker 2: like a rubber band, but my knees constantly go backwards.
Speaker 3: I'll go back and see like my fingers are you
Speaker 3: double jointed in all your fingers and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: That's I was going to bring up double jointedness because
Speaker 2: I can't do it now because of course I had
Speaker 2: my spine feels right, But when I was younger, I
Speaker 2: could literally take my my legs and put them behind
Speaker 2: my head.
Speaker 3: Yeah no, and you probably you probably have the flexible,
Speaker 3: the the hypermobility, which sounds fun, guys, but here's the
Speaker 3: problem with it. It's not because we have a really
Speaker 3: hard time a with blood pressure at times, like mine's
Speaker 3: usually too low sometimes and my daughter's is too. Like
Speaker 3: you can pass out, you can you get weird types
Speaker 3: of flares. It's like loopus. My mom has lupus flares,
Speaker 3: and I'll mimic some of those things, but it's not
Speaker 3: I've never had a positive A and A, so a
Speaker 3: lot of times they try and blame it on my hashimotos,
Speaker 3: but I think it's more towards this. My doctor finally
Speaker 3: recognized it when I was probably thirty eight or thirty nine,
Speaker 3: and I finally got a diagnosis finally, But most doctors
Speaker 3: won't do it because just like fibromyalgia, they say it's
Speaker 3: a junk diagnosis, that it's oh people just want pain pills.
Speaker 3: It's horrifically painful in your joints, and I see it
Speaker 3: in my kids, which makes me sad. My son already
Speaker 3: has the clicking joints. My son already has chronic pain.
Speaker 3: My daughter already has pins. Yeah, they're kids. They're like fifteen,
Speaker 3: you know, and sixteen. Well he's sixteen now, and then
Speaker 3: my daughter is twenty three, and it's just it's just
Speaker 3: kind of sad, you know, to see them go through that.
Speaker 3: You know, you don't.
Speaker 2: And one of the common things for me, since my
Speaker 2: I can be standing or walking and my knee will
Speaker 2: buckle backwards, and so a lot of times I will
Speaker 2: get a Baker's cyst on the back of my knee.
Speaker 2: And for people that don't know, you have synovial fluid
Speaker 2: in your in your knee joint and it will bulge
Speaker 2: out the back of your knee and can be anywhere
Speaker 2: from like a golf ball size to a self ball size.
Speaker 2: It's extremely painful. And if it ruptures, all that fluid
Speaker 2: runs inside of your leg downward and your leg swells
Speaker 2: and it's it's ungodlike painful. But I get baker syst
Speaker 2: on a regular basis because my knees buckle backwards all
Speaker 2: the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's a situation because people think, well, oh,
Speaker 3: you're just hyper flexible. Cool, No, you don't mean to
Speaker 3: like my I'll wake up. Last year, I really hurt
Speaker 3: my shoulder because I slept on it wrong and I
Speaker 3: woke up and I could feel it was out of place,
Speaker 3: which happens with eds. You learn how to put things
Speaker 3: back and all that sounds.
Speaker 2: Insane, but that's what yeah, right here and joint.
Speaker 3: And there's rings that they make for that, for stabilization
Speaker 3: rings for the fingers. They sell them on Amazon now.
Speaker 3: They're super easy to get and it helps brace their
Speaker 3: their cute races. Right, they don't look like the olden
Speaker 3: days like this will used to be a nightmare. This
Speaker 3: used to be. And I do think it has some
Speaker 3: to do with our backs because I think it slips
Speaker 3: out a lot and it's so bad for your disc, yeah,
Speaker 3: because then the disc is rocking and you know your vertebrate,
Speaker 3: you don't even it comes to a point. And I
Speaker 3: know Janet will probably know this if you've had this too,
Speaker 3: like where the pain is not really painful, like we
Speaker 3: talked about with you know, me being having a baby
Speaker 3: at home, or like being having a sistrupture inside my
Speaker 3: my whole ovary. I mean I almost died because it
Speaker 3: was a blood I was bleeding internally, and they were like, well,
Speaker 3: why didn't you come in? And I'm like, well, I
Speaker 3: mean it hurt, but it didn't hurt that bad.
Speaker 2: And I mean, that's the thing is, and that's a
Speaker 2: Some people have zero pain tolerance, like none whatsoever. But
Speaker 2: because I have dealt with chronic pain like my entire
Speaker 2: life from different things, whether it's my knees, my ankles,
Speaker 2: my back, you know, whatever the case may be, my
Speaker 2: pain tolerance is so high that, you know, like, unless
Speaker 2: I'm missing a limb, I'm not going to the hospital.
Speaker 2: Because I was telling Heidi before the show, had a
Speaker 2: little accident the other day and slipped on the running
Speaker 2: board of my truck, fell out, landed on my hip
Speaker 2: and my head, gave myself a concussion, scrambled my eggs
Speaker 2: up pretty good, no more of that, and hurt my
Speaker 2: hip and the hip pain was was god awful, But
Speaker 2: I'm like, it's still not bad enough to make me like,
Speaker 2: when I go to the hospital and get an X.
Speaker 3: Ray, do you think you may have subluxed it. Do
Speaker 3: you did you feel it pop back in? Maybe that's
Speaker 3: why it got better because it's weird. It's like excruciating.
Speaker 3: And then the only bad part is is if you
Speaker 3: catch a nerve like my shoulder when I woke up
Speaker 3: that morning, I caught when I popped it back. I
Speaker 3: didn't even you just do this when you when you
Speaker 3: go through this stuff. And I popped it back and
Speaker 3: I knew it needed to be popped back, and then
Speaker 3: when it did, I must have caught my nerve. That
Speaker 3: was a bad day.
Speaker 2: And then that makes your teeth go yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh that For absolutely months it was just awful and
Speaker 3: I thought, oh my gosh, like what is happening here?
Speaker 3: You know? And and I had to go to physical therapy,
Speaker 3: which I haven't had to do. And that's probably because
Speaker 3: I'm older now. I'm not recovering from that stuff as
Speaker 3: good as maybe I once was, you know, which sucks
Speaker 3: because it's well known with Elers down thos. Eventually you're
Speaker 3: probably going to have some problem that's serious. You know,
Speaker 3: mine was my back, I know yours has been your back.
Speaker 3: The nice part about Eler's downloast, which I think maybe
Speaker 3: would play into why you look so youthful. Same for me.
Speaker 3: It's the one thing we get. God like feels bad
Speaker 3: about it a little bit, I think, and he's like,
Speaker 3: they can have their face. I don't know, but it's nice.
Speaker 3: I'm happy. I'm like, okay, cool, Like it's I'm grateful
Speaker 3: because everything else sucks, and you know, it's just you
Speaker 3: wake up. You do get used to it. I will
Speaker 3: say this, the more I stretch, which is seems counterproductive
Speaker 3: because I'm already stretchy, it helps a lot, which is weird.
Speaker 3: So you just have to be mindful.
Speaker 2: And that's that's the funny thing. Because when I was
Speaker 2: having the massive hip pain and stuff from the accident
Speaker 2: this week, I was like, you know what, I still
Speaker 2: have to move because if I don't, I'm going to
Speaker 2: lock up and I won't be able to do it.
Speaker 2: Anything happens like with my shoulder and my feet and
Speaker 2: the bones in my feet get disjointed a lot of times,
Speaker 2: my ankles the whole nine yards. But I still like
Speaker 2: got on the treadmill and walked and whatever. You know,
Speaker 2: my hip was hurting, and then after I would walk,
Speaker 2: I would be like, oh, I feel better now right right?
Speaker 3: It gives you that little bit of a tension release
Speaker 3: because the physical therapist explained it to me that we
Speaker 3: have no really solid anything holding it together. And so
Speaker 3: like other people have like a solid brace to their bones,
Speaker 3: but ours are lax, and so the bones are just
Speaker 3: kind of like flopping around in there. So we have
Speaker 3: to train our muscle to do it, which is why
Speaker 3: we're constantly tense and hurting because we our muscles are
Speaker 3: taking the load that some of the ligaments should take
Speaker 3: right right, So, which.
Speaker 2: I think would probably definitely go hand in hand with
Speaker 2: people that have diagnosis of fibromyalgia or myofascial pain syndrome
Speaker 2: because your your system is not working together well. And
Speaker 2: that's the thing about and I want to tell people
Speaker 2: like what this is. So this is inherited, So it's
Speaker 2: genetic you know, from you know, parents, grandparents, because this
Speaker 2: is always passed down through the families, right, so other
Speaker 2: people guaranteed I've had it and nobody knew or or
Speaker 2: said anything. But it has to do with your connective
Speaker 2: tissue and your collagen because they are what give your
Speaker 2: system strength and flexibility, not just in your joints, but
Speaker 2: your muscles, your skin, your your organ your gums. Literally
Speaker 2: all kinds of things collagen and proteins like and several
Speaker 2: other things bind together to form connective tissue and your
Speaker 2: connective tissues and your muscle and literally all over in
Speaker 2: your system. And so let's go over a little bit
Speaker 2: of the thirteen different types that there are, because that
Speaker 2: was interesting to me. Now that the hyper mobility, when
Speaker 2: I definitely can see for myself, but I'm not too
Speaker 2: sure there's not more than one.
Speaker 3: You can have more than one, and I think I
Speaker 3: may have more than one. But he just didn't want
Speaker 3: to get into with He's like, that's a whole genetic
Speaker 3: to He asked me, you want to do that, And
Speaker 3: I'm like that sounds like thousands of dollars and he's
Speaker 3: like no, and you're like, okay.
Speaker 2: Well it's usually will not cover genetic testing, and those
Speaker 2: are out of pocket, and we're more talking thousands of dollars.
Speaker 2: You are literally talking at genetic testing like ten thousand
Speaker 2: dollars for like one test. They're very expensive. And with
Speaker 2: this it doesn't matter if you have a diagnosis or not,
Speaker 2: because there is no cure. All the treatments that are supportive,
Speaker 2: like physical therapy, bracing, sometimes corrective surgeries or whatever, but
Speaker 2: the surgery may or may not even hold depending on
Speaker 2: which type of EDS that you have. So anyways, well.
Speaker 3: And then the scarring and the every surgery I've ever
Speaker 3: had for my joints, which is a lots, went bad
Speaker 3: so fast from carpal tunnel after I had my son
Speaker 3: that they were like, you had to have ignored this
Speaker 3: for now. I already admitted with pain. I'm not the
Speaker 3: best about figuring it out fast. Okay, I'm not, but
Speaker 3: but that being said, with my hands, I did notice
Speaker 3: because they fall asleep and you're shaking them and everything,
Speaker 3: and so it's really painful. And I it was immediate.
Speaker 3: It was like he was born and then boom, my
Speaker 3: joints just went bad. And I told him. I said no, no, no,
Speaker 3: I was fine. Now I'm not fine. And so they
Speaker 3: did the testing my EMG, which is a nerve conduction study,
Speaker 3: and I had any Yeah, I had an eight second delay,
Speaker 3: and I was like that's not They're like, this is horrible,
Speaker 3: Like how why did you ignore this for so long?
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't think you understand this. Definitely wasn't
Speaker 3: like this right before he was born, Like, definitely not
Speaker 3: and they were like, no, no, this years of you ignored.
Speaker 2: I'm like, they're trying to gaslight you into, you know,
Speaker 2: believing what they're telling you is true when you know
Speaker 2: dark good and well, it's not same thing with me
Speaker 2: with my back annoying. It's like this all of a
Speaker 2: sudden like bent over getting dry clothes out of the dryer,
Speaker 2: and my back went out and I couldn't like get up,
Speaker 2: and then you know, having to have surgery and stuff.
Speaker 2: And it was like, well, you must have had this
Speaker 2: problem for a long time.
Speaker 3: It's something you must have did something.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's always your.
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, listen, dude, I'm pretty sure I would
Speaker 3: have noticed if I couldn't fill my fingers anymore. Like
Speaker 3: I mean, I get.
Speaker 2: That, but it's usually like my pinky and my ring
Speaker 2: finger that'll go numb.
Speaker 3: So that's ulner it's still it's still the same thing.
Speaker 3: It's carpal tunnel, but it's on the other other nerve,
Speaker 3: so it's on the ulner side. And get it fixed
Speaker 3: right away, because I'll tell you, the one surgery I
Speaker 3: had that worked, that actually work and will work for
Speaker 3: me is when they don't open me all the way
Speaker 3: up they opened this hand. I should have brought these
Speaker 3: pictures for this. They opened this hand all the way up.
Speaker 3: I'll send them to you for your show notes or whatever.
Speaker 3: And it was a disaster of I can't even explain.
Speaker 3: When you see it, it looks like a Frankenstein hand,
Speaker 3: like they it's just horrible. This one they did laparoscopically
Speaker 3: and it beautiful, worked so good. This one, it's destroyed
Speaker 3: at this point. Even the newestbestos I am, the most
Speaker 3: importantest hand surgeon was like, you're screwed. It's totally destroyed.
Speaker 3: And we don't understand why because of the scar tissue
Speaker 3: because Eiler's damos. And I'm like, well, let's fix it.
Speaker 3: Like they went in one more time to clean out
Speaker 3: the scar tissue. Within three weeks it was there and
Speaker 3: they just said, sorry, it's failed. And also, by the way,
Speaker 3: we accidentally cut your nerve in half, so have fun.
Speaker 3: You don't have a thumb anymore.
Speaker 2: Like what I thank god, thank you.
Speaker 3: Thank God for muscle memory because it was my thumb
Speaker 3: and my finger and this is my blood drying. So
Speaker 3: the first time I drew blood and or started an
Speaker 3: ivy after I was like, oh my gosh, I was.
Speaker 2: Like, oh, I.
Speaker 3: Know. I'm like, he's like, but I had already told myself,
Speaker 3: like if I miss once, I'm just not going to
Speaker 3: torture this person, you know, I'm just gonna go get
Speaker 3: somebody else, Like maybe I just can't do this anymore,
Speaker 3: you know. And it's not the end of the world.
Speaker 3: But it was because I was like the the best
Speaker 3: ivy girl and it was like a pride thing. I
Speaker 3: was like, oh my gosh, because I did babies and
Speaker 3: the nickeu in their heads and other things. So I
Speaker 3: was go get her. And I'm like, so I think
Speaker 3: muscle memory is a real thing because even though I
Speaker 3: can't feel it as good, I'm still just as good.
Speaker 3: So I was like, thank you God, please thank you
Speaker 3: because I torture people like.
Speaker 2: Well, well, thank you for the small things in life.
Speaker 3: Yeah yes, yes, uh, but yeah it sucked. You know,
Speaker 3: you can't just fix it. It's not like a normal
Speaker 3: person like going in getting surgery. They just get better.
Speaker 2: So that's why, like the different types of this are
Speaker 2: so unique in their own way. A lot of them
Speaker 2: are very similar. So the hyper vobile, like we said classical,
Speaker 2: and then you have a like classical, a vascular so
Speaker 2: I think I have a problem in that area as well.
Speaker 2: Kiphos scoliosis, So you can have chiphosis or scoliosis along
Speaker 2: with like hip locations all of the time. Hello. That's
Speaker 2: how I know my back was hurt and needed surgery
Speaker 2: is because it felt like my hip was broken before
Speaker 2: it Like the pain was not in my back, it
Speaker 2: was in my hip for whatever reason. There is uh
Speaker 2: anthro shalasil I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't know how to pronounce don't.
Speaker 2: Then that one is that one's very unique because it
Speaker 2: has severe joint hypermobility. So the people that can literally
Speaker 2: take their finger and like bend it all.
Speaker 3: The way back in the half. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh, stuff like that congenital hip location, so you're inheriting
Speaker 2: dislike from your family. Yeah, hypotonia, which is low muscle
Speaker 2: tone that leads to muscle wasting, and that's a whole
Speaker 2: nother problem. Dermatos forraxis extremely fragile skin. I definitely uh
Speaker 2: would say I have that severe bruising. I have inevere
Speaker 2: issue with that. Like I can wake up in the
Speaker 2: morning and it looks like somebody beat me into the
Speaker 2: bed at night with a baseball bat and nothing happened.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that was a thing. And also with that,
Speaker 2: which is really common is hernias, which I found super
Speaker 2: interesting because if if hernias are common with that particular type,
Speaker 2: then obviously your intestinal walls are also weaker. It's not
Speaker 2: just your skin right A very interesting. And then there's
Speaker 2: one called the brittle cornea syndrome, and that is frightening.
Speaker 2: I was reading about that, and it's like progressive thinning
Speaker 2: out of the cornea with where your eyes will bulge
Speaker 2: because they change shape and they turn like cone shape
Speaker 2: instead around they protrude. So I have seen people like
Speaker 2: that before, but I'm very glad I don't have that.
Speaker 2: But they also get very blurry vision, double vision, near sightedness,
Speaker 2: irregular astigmatisms, light sensitivities, and blue sclare eye. It's where
Speaker 2: the light of your eye actually turns blue or purplish,
Speaker 2: which is an interesting And then we have spondo. Hold
Speaker 2: on a minute, I can't see what that says. Spond
Speaker 2: a loto plastic, which means people with very short stature.
Speaker 3: I don't have that one. Fun sized, definitely not for me.
Speaker 2: This also comes with boeing of the limbs, so people
Speaker 2: that are bow legged there you go there, there in
Speaker 2: that muscular skeletal type, so you have congenital and multiple contractors.
Speaker 2: You can have club foot, cranio facial feature issues and
Speaker 2: increased palmer wrinkling. Now that's really weird. But you know,
Speaker 2: you can have deformities of the of the face and stuff,
Speaker 2: which I think is interesting because I have a guest
Speaker 2: coming up next week that I'm not too sure didn't
Speaker 2: have this oh yeah thing. There's one called myopathic and
Speaker 2: it has You're born with a lot of muscle atrophy
Speaker 2: supposedly improves with age, joint contractors that are really calm
Speaker 2: of the knee, the hip, the elbow, ankles, wrist, hands,
Speaker 2: and feet, periodontal, which I'm like, huh, so I wasn't
Speaker 2: even thinking about teeth or whatever, but in this, you
Speaker 2: know how your your gums like tightly aligned with your teeth,
Speaker 2: and the periodental type that is missing, and you you
Speaker 2: have these big chasms between your teeth and your gums,
Speaker 2: so it's like almost a mote around your teeth, which
Speaker 2: is very interesting. But you have of course the regular step,
Speaker 2: the abnormal scarring, the marphnoid facial features, h and and
Speaker 2: all kinds of weird stuff with that, and then the
Speaker 2: last one is cardio valvular, and this is usually having
Speaker 2: to do with the aortic or mitral valves.
Speaker 3: So, which are worse than the pulmonary valves. So right,
Speaker 3: I mean as far as not long term, but they
Speaker 3: have to fix it right away instead of like my
Speaker 3: daughter had on the pulmonary side and they were like,
Speaker 3: we're just gonna wait and see if she grows out
Speaker 3: of it. If it had been on the other side,
Speaker 3: we'd already had surgery. So it can be a situation,
Speaker 3: and there's a mixture of lots of them, like you
Speaker 3: can have all different you know.
Speaker 2: That's a problem though, because like like we said earlier,
Speaker 2: you know, they can go in and do corrective surgery
Speaker 2: for valves or joints or you know whatever. But because
Speaker 2: when you have this, you have such abnormal scarring or
Speaker 2: your your skin or your vessels or your organs or
Speaker 2: whatever are so weak because they're lacking the collagen and
Speaker 2: the peptides that are needed to maintain that structure and
Speaker 2: formation that a lot of times, like sutures don't hold.
Speaker 2: And even people who are pregnant who have this, it's
Speaker 2: very common for them to miscarry because they're abdominal wall
Speaker 2: is weak because the lining of the cervix is weak. Whatever,
Speaker 2: and so a lot of times people have, you know,
Speaker 2: spontaneous abortions or whatever because they can't their body can't
Speaker 2: hold it in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the allergies that come with it are bananas, Like,
Speaker 3: you're allergic too, I don't. I mean, I can't prove
Speaker 3: that that's why. But it goes hand in hand with
Speaker 3: it and sutures for me, glue for me, glue almost
Speaker 3: killed me two years ago, so you know, we have
Speaker 3: to be so careful. I'm a little bit luckier. Weirdly enough,
Speaker 3: I didn't know about I mean, I knew I was asthmatic,
Speaker 3: and I knew I had allergies. But my parents, like
Speaker 3: I said, it's the eighties. They were like, get a
Speaker 3: primatine miss from the drug store. You're fine. I think
Speaker 3: that that did expose It was like almost exposure therapy
Speaker 3: in some ways it and it helped me. He's like,
Speaker 3: I really don't know how you are alive and you
Speaker 3: eat all these things, and he told me, like, you're
Speaker 3: allergic to everything on the whole entire test list. We
Speaker 3: sent it off four times. You broke two machines and
Speaker 3: we don't know what to do, so we're just gonna
Speaker 3: have you not do the worst ones. And I'm like, what, Like,
Speaker 3: I eat all this stuff, what are you talking about?
Speaker 3: And he's like, well, this is you know, and the
Speaker 3: things for me that I wasn't allergic to are the
Speaker 3: things everybody's allergic to. Like I'm not allergic to eggs,
Speaker 3: I'm not allergic to beef, but I am allergic to chicken,
Speaker 3: you know, so but I can have chicken. He just said,
Speaker 3: if it's a level five like EpiPen level, just don't
Speaker 3: eat that anymore. And mine are stupid. It's like rice,
Speaker 3: the most hypoallergenic food on the planet, and people think
Speaker 3: that I'm carb counting or something weird. I'm like, listen
Speaker 3: to me, I can't eat that. I'll die. Like it's
Speaker 3: it's not carb counting or or shellfish, which is normal oats.
Speaker 3: Oats is a really abnormal one. Basically the gluten free
Speaker 3: foods I'm allergic to. And my daughter has a gluten allergy,
Speaker 3: so that was super fun growing up with her and
Speaker 3: me being on the opposite ends of the spectrum, you know,
Speaker 3: but mainly those and I think, let si, oh, I'm
Speaker 3: supposed to not have milk. I did not go off
Speaker 3: with that. Once you go off, you cannot have it again,
Speaker 3: and it is in everything. So I was like, sorry, Doc,
Speaker 3: I'll take the little allergies here and there.
Speaker 2: So let me ask you about this, because I know
Speaker 2: Ellie's a very she has a very special kind of
Speaker 2: allergies when it comes to this. But are yours like
Speaker 2: touching the stuff? Is it eating the stuff or so?
Speaker 2: Because I have airborne.
Speaker 3: Not airborne for me because of so much exposure, I
Speaker 3: literally ate rice all the time. I literally ate oats
Speaker 3: all the time. And I often wonder if that was
Speaker 3: when I was going through my inflammation periods that I
Speaker 3: became allergic most to those things because I favored them.
Speaker 3: And you know, I know this. He told me, if
Speaker 3: you go off of any of these level five the
Speaker 3: EpiPen allergies supposedly like the highest level ones, which were OAHs, rites, oats, rice, hardshell, fish.
Speaker 3: There's one more I can't remember right now, something I
Speaker 3: never eat. Anyway. He's like, once you do that, you
Speaker 3: cannot have it again, even though you've eaten it all
Speaker 3: your life, once you detox from it. If you do that,
Speaker 3: And I was like okay, okay, I got it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: and so give me the EpiPen bye, and we go
Speaker 3: to the movies like a couple months later, and I
Speaker 3: pop a DIBs ice cream DIBs in my mouth and
Speaker 3: I didn't even think because it's ice cream and chocolate,
Speaker 3: like it's it's not any of the things, you know,
Speaker 3: and and it's got rice crispy around it, right, And
Speaker 3: I didn't even think. And as soon as my tooth
Speaker 3: hit that and it like popped, I stopped breathing. It
Speaker 3: was like immediate and I'd eat and rice my whole life.
Speaker 3: Like I mean, it wasn't a big deal, but it
Speaker 3: was after a detox from it, and so I had
Speaker 3: to do the EpiPen. And of course because I bruised
Speaker 3: bleed easily, my whole pants was full of blood, like
Speaker 3: it was so dramatic and stupid. I'm just like, oh
Speaker 3: my gosh. So I just put my coat over it.
Speaker 3: And I still watch the movie because I'm a ridiculous
Speaker 3: nurse and that's what we do because I was fine.
Speaker 2: By God, I paid for that movie.
Speaker 3: I was like, it's not that bad. And then my
Speaker 3: husband's like he passes out if he sees blood and
Speaker 3: he's like, no, it's bad, and I'm like, oh, calm down,
Speaker 3: it's not even that much.
Speaker 2: It just looks scary, and he's like the corner.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he'll path out. I'm like, if you if I
Speaker 3: really needed you, like I think I guess I would
Speaker 3: die because you would be so afraid. But like, he's
Speaker 3: gotten way better with time. But he's seen me go
Speaker 3: through so much now and so many things that are
Speaker 3: just crazy that and he told me he was friends
Speaker 3: with my ex husband and he's like, you know, he
Speaker 3: thought you were kind of crazy, like you're hypochondriact. And
Speaker 3: he's like, now that I'm with you, like, and we've
Speaker 3: been together so long, I know that you just have
Speaker 3: the worst stuff happened. He's like, literally, you think that
Speaker 3: you'll go I'll go in, and I'll be like, I'll
Speaker 3: finally go in and I'm like, it's probably a sprain,
Speaker 3: probably fine, like my infection in my back. Probably I'm
Speaker 3: gonna get Ivy rosephan and go home. It'll be fine. No,
Speaker 3: like two weeks later after surgery again and in the
Speaker 3: hospital and just crazy bananas because you wait because you
Speaker 3: think it's fine, you know, and it's never fine. Hardly ever.
Speaker 3: But I always try to have a positive attitude about
Speaker 3: it because somebody once said, oh, you do it to
Speaker 3: yourself because you think it or I don't know. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 3: like that's unfair.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you about this, what about like drug allergies.
Speaker 2: Do you have like a bunch of drug allergies?
Speaker 3: So guess what? I never did intel and my grandma
Speaker 3: and my mom both are allergic to penicillin and sulfa,
Speaker 3: and my mom's allergic to morphine like deathly, and I
Speaker 3: never had any. And then I had that allergic reaction
Speaker 3: with the glue, and I do not know what happened
Speaker 3: after that, but I got the worst allergy. I had
Speaker 3: a UTI come on. After all my surgeries, being in
Speaker 3: the hospital, all the stuff they did to me, I
Speaker 3: was like, great, So I had to take some bactrum
Speaker 3: and I did, and I'd taken it probably five or
Speaker 3: six times in my life at least. That's a pretty
Speaker 3: normal drug for a woman. You know, we end up
Speaker 3: with UTIs and so I was like, oh, no big deal,
Speaker 3: and I took that and within three I would say
Speaker 3: maybe two hours, I had full on Stevens Johnson's syndrome happening,
Speaker 3: and I caught it quick enough. I did the EpiPen
Speaker 3: and I went in and they they were able to
Speaker 3: stop it. I only had six source, but they were
Speaker 3: so clinical. They were like this is I was like this,
Speaker 3: I knew what it was.
Speaker 2: Nurse explain to people what that is.
Speaker 3: So Stevens Johnson's syndrome type allergy is so bad that
Speaker 3: when you get it, they're like these little they look
Speaker 3: like a boil, but instead in the mental like the
Speaker 3: middle of it looks like a red cherry dot, and
Speaker 3: they are actual blisters that will open up and your
Speaker 3: whole skin can slough off, like not just that little
Speaker 3: piece like everything. Like if you look up Stephen Johnson's
Speaker 3: entrom pictures, you're gonna be like, holy crap. Mine wasn't
Speaker 3: the day, No, And I was like crying. That was
Speaker 3: the one time I did go in because I was like,
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, like I just and I knew what
Speaker 3: it was, but also I was like, this is super rare.
Speaker 3: There's no way and he was like, oh, that's exactly
Speaker 3: what I Like, I don't know, but that's exactly what
Speaker 3: it is. And I was like, this is crazy. Thank Evans,
Speaker 3: I did have an EpiPen I did it because at
Speaker 3: first I thought it was hives, you know, and I
Speaker 3: thought I ate something weird or I don't know. I
Speaker 3: have a lot of environmental allergies, so like animals and
Speaker 3: different things. But I was like, it's got to be
Speaker 3: something like that, or maybe a spider bite. It kind
Speaker 3: of looked like a spider bite and then they spread
Speaker 3: like it was like going up my leg and I
Speaker 3: was like, oh shoot. And then I was like, oh no.
Speaker 3: So I'm looking at the timeframe and everything. It was
Speaker 3: like perfectly aligned with what it was saying, and I
Speaker 3: was like, ah, So I went in because I didn't
Speaker 3: want my face to fall off.
Speaker 2: It's like, hidious, why not, darn it?
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, so scary. You lose your hair everything.
Speaker 3: It is like terrifying. And so I was like, nope,
Speaker 3: not not that. It's it's scary, like flesh eating disease.
Speaker 3: Scary people like this is. And so luckily that did
Speaker 3: not happen to me. But they were like, you can
Speaker 3: never have sulfa again. And so not only did that
Speaker 3: surgery mess me up there, but now one of the
Speaker 3: main drugs that they are going to use to probably
Speaker 3: save people's lives like now I can't have that, you know,
Speaker 3: And so I just it irritates me to such a
Speaker 3: high level because the doctor knew, he knew, and he
Speaker 3: was so pompous that he literally said, don't worry. I
Speaker 3: didn't use mass to soul. I used derma bond. And
Speaker 3: I was like, that's like saying you gave them apap
Speaker 3: and not tile and all.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, or them telling me, oh, you're
Speaker 2: allergic to tramadol, that's okay, We're gonna prescribe you old tram.
Speaker 3: Old tram instead.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh okay, okay, yeah. And it's the allergies that
Speaker 2: come with us are so like weird because Ellie's allergies
Speaker 2: are airborne and her food allergies are airborne, and so like,
Speaker 2: she had to go for a work gathering thing last
Speaker 2: week and she, you know, they started their meeting and
Speaker 2: then they brought the food in and she is deathly
Speaker 2: allergic to sesame. So it was either made with sesame
Speaker 2: seeds or had sesame oil or something, and she had
Speaker 2: to leave the building and go sit in her car
Speaker 2: and her throat was closing up in the whole nine yards.
Speaker 2: So anything with duck she's super allergic to that. So
Speaker 2: anytime there's like she can't go in a pet food store,
Speaker 2: they have to bring like whatever food out because some
Speaker 2: of this stuff has duck in it. So hers is
Speaker 2: like all airborne stuff and mine is basically sensitivities.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm more like I think mine were really severe.
Speaker 3: He did laugh when I said that can't be possible.
Speaker 3: I eat these all the time or whatever, you know,
Speaker 3: and he said, honestly, I don't know how you're alive.
Speaker 3: Like he was like, yeah, he would, like I sent
Speaker 3: it to Colorado and I sent it to Texas and
Speaker 3: you broke the machine here and he's like, I'm just saying,
Speaker 3: he's like I and I cried because I was like,
Speaker 3: this can't be possible, like what And I mean, it
Speaker 3: is what it is, but like I just step back
Speaker 3: and go really, beef and eggs, that's a weird thing
Speaker 3: not to be allergic to. And cocoa but not chocolate. People, No,
Speaker 3: that's the three things I'm not allergic to in the
Speaker 3: whole list. And so I'm just like this is so strange.
Speaker 3: I don't you know. You just get to feeling like
Speaker 3: you don't belong in this world. I think sometimes and
Speaker 3: I'm sure Ellie can relate. I'm sure you can probably
Speaker 3: like you feel weird, you feel weird. Well, then on
Speaker 3: top of it, yeah.
Speaker 2: I have a lot of drug allergies that that are random,
Speaker 2: that you know, stuff I'd taken like my whole entire
Speaker 2: life that I can't take anymore or be around anymore.
Speaker 2: And like it's always something where they'll they'll say, oh,
Speaker 2: that's not it's not possible to be allergic to. Ellie
Speaker 2: and I are the same in that aspect. She's very
Speaker 2: allergic to benadryl all of a sudden for whatever. And
Speaker 2: so it's like I told them I'm allergic to fennergen
Speaker 2: and they're like, oh, well, you know, we don't have
Speaker 2: anything else, so we're going to give you fennergan. And
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm telling you I will projectile vomit and
Speaker 2: fennergen is supposed to make you not vomit, specifically nausea.
Speaker 2: And it was like, oh, I guess you weren't kidding.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, it's like.
Speaker 3: That, why would you even want? Yeah, I mean it's
Speaker 3: like a weird It's like why would you want that? Right?
Speaker 3: Like it's and I kind of wonder if it was
Speaker 3: because they hit me with the solfa allergy. I think
Speaker 3: possibly it was because they hit me with two pregnant
Speaker 3: zone packs in a very short period of time. And
Speaker 3: my CRP was twelve when I went to the hospital,
Speaker 3: So I think possibly that could have been like combined
Speaker 3: with whatever else they had on board. You know. But
Speaker 3: you you wonder, like I've had this my whole life,
Speaker 3: Like what but I was lucky enough, like I said,
Speaker 3: I didn't die. But like when I was little, I
Speaker 3: would have severe asthma attacks and I was constantly sick.
Speaker 3: I would be home in a mistent like with pneumonia.
Speaker 3: And now I know it was probably brought on by
Speaker 3: this chronic inflammation of my lungs that I had going on.
Speaker 3: I will say this, and I know people don't like
Speaker 3: big pharma, but I am gonna say one drug that
Speaker 3: saved my life. And I know this for a fact,
Speaker 3: Singulai or montelou cast for asthmatics with tons of allergies
Speaker 3: like I am. It has changed my life. I mean
Speaker 3: I used to have asthma attacks where one time I
Speaker 3: was at the doctor's office and the hospital was across
Speaker 3: the street, like literally just cross the street, not a
Speaker 3: big street, just like two lanes, and he shot me
Speaker 3: up in my ac with prena zone, screaming at me
Speaker 3: the whole time like I can't believe you waited this long,
Speaker 3: Like you're gonna die in my office. Like he was
Speaker 3: so scared. He was like, and I was like, you're
Speaker 3: so dramatic, Like gosh, I've been like this for now.
Speaker 2: I don't want any malpractice claims.
Speaker 3: And he was scared. He was like, I've never ever
Speaker 3: and he was just freaking out. And I mean, I'm like,
Speaker 3: what is your deal?
Speaker 1: Guy?
Speaker 3: Like, and I was in the hospital like two weeks.
Speaker 3: I mean, this was like common for me in my twenties.
Speaker 3: And I look back and I see my face. Now
Speaker 3: granted I had hashimotos, I didn't know. I don't even
Speaker 3: look like me, Like it isn't that I just am heavy.
Speaker 3: I don't look like myself like my husband will even say,
Speaker 3: even your nose looks different, even your everything, like your
Speaker 3: eye shape or whatever, like it was all different. He's like,
Speaker 3: you look like maybe related to that person, like that
Speaker 3: could be your sister or something, you know, but it
Speaker 3: doesn't look like you. He's like, and it's weird and
Speaker 3: like I go through phases like that where I'll see
Speaker 3: the inflammation really hit. And for me in the summer,
Speaker 3: I have a hard time because the swelling for me,
Speaker 3: which my husband would live somewhere that never snowed. But
Speaker 3: I like the winter better because even though it hurts me,
Speaker 3: snow doesn't hurt me like rain. Rain is atrocious for me,
Speaker 3: and so so in summer the heat. Once I get
Speaker 3: past a certain level, I'm toast. Like I literally went
Speaker 3: to Hawaii and I wanted to go home. I was like,
Speaker 3: this is horrible. I can't stand this because all the blood,
Speaker 3: like even the flying too, it shoves I have the
Speaker 3: vascular thing because it shoves it all I can feel
Speaker 3: everything's swollen and tight. And my husband doesn't get it,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I literally rather go any other way
Speaker 3: about flying if we can, like a train a car,
Speaker 3: because it hurts so much for days. And I look
Speaker 3: at me, like when we went to Italy or France,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh my gosh, look as swollen I am,
Speaker 3: you know, And it's just part of it. It sucks.
Speaker 3: It sucks, and there's no way around it. I have
Speaker 3: heard about the pots thing, which I know I probably
Speaker 3: have that. They like, do these hyper salt like they
Speaker 3: take these weird salt tablets and they say that it works.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I've never done that, but I've heard
Speaker 3: about it. It's weird. I mean, I know I can't
Speaker 3: drink normal people drink. It really affects me, you know,
Speaker 3: not because of my age, just because it does, like
Speaker 3: I will pay for that. It will hurt me for
Speaker 3: a week, well not a drinking.
Speaker 2: That's why, like I have a I have a dietary
Speaker 2: suggestion that may help. I want to mention this and
Speaker 2: for anybody that thinks that you have this or have
Speaker 2: been diagnosed with this. When we were talking about like
Speaker 2: sensitivities and allergies to stuff and whatever, I had the
Speaker 2: weirdest thing happened to me because I love sea salt,
Speaker 2: and I thought, oh, I finally found some black sea salt,
Speaker 2: because that's not something you find in the stores here
Speaker 2: like at all. So I finally found some and I
Speaker 2: was like you using it? And I was like afterwards,
Speaker 2: everything I ate just made me sick, and I'm like, wow, world,
Speaker 2: and it stinks. It smells like rotten eggs. It has
Speaker 2: sulfur dioxide in it. So if you have a sulfa
Speaker 2: allergy of any kind, whether it be you know, taking
Speaker 2: it internally or whatever, stay away from black Hemalayan sea salt.
Speaker 3: How weird. I did not know that because.
Speaker 2: It messed up my gut. And I was like, that
Speaker 2: is very strange. I've never been allergic to sulfa drugs
Speaker 2: or whatever my entire life. But the salt, because it
Speaker 2: has sulfur in, it made me sicker than a dog.
Speaker 2: Like I couldn't hold anything down on my stomach, like
Speaker 2: really upset bowels the whole nine yards. And it was
Speaker 2: from just that salt.
Speaker 3: That's so wild. I know, as I've gotten older, there's
Speaker 3: some things I absolutely cannot tolerate, but I'm not allergic to.
Speaker 3: Like I love peppers, my Kenny peppers anymore. They just
Speaker 3: make me sick, you know, like immediately sick. And I've
Speaker 3: heard the different things about night shades. I will not
Speaker 3: give up tomatoes. I love them.
Speaker 2: But that's what I'm on a diet right now, which
Speaker 2: has helped with like the inflammation, the bloating, joint pain,
Speaker 2: like all of that stuff. It has like taken all
Speaker 2: of that away. But I was like, when summer comes
Speaker 2: and the actual real tomatoes from local real tomatoes. I
Speaker 2: don't like the fake ones tomatoes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love tomatoes, like, but you know, I can
Speaker 3: live without a lot of things. I am less centered
Speaker 3: on meats like I I mean, I will I like them,
Speaker 3: but like how people are like, oh, I do like steak,
Speaker 3: but I mean, it's not that big a deal for me,
Speaker 3: you know, if it's not there, and I notice if
Speaker 3: I eat too much certain things like crappy want like
Speaker 3: white breads or whatever. However, sour dough doesn't seem to
Speaker 3: affect me as bad. But I also am not a
Speaker 3: big eater of any of that. Honestly, if my body
Speaker 3: would cooperate with what I eat, I would probably wait,
Speaker 3: like Ellie, because I don't eat a whole lot and
Speaker 3: I don't really notice, Like it's not unusual for me
Speaker 3: to fast tell too, I haven't eaten today, Like it's
Speaker 3: it's not really that unusual for me other than I'll
Speaker 3: have coffee and then I just always dedicate it to God.
Speaker 3: I'm like, hey, anyways, so I was doing this thing anyways,
Speaker 3: so you can bless it for me. That'd be cool,
Speaker 3: But I mean it's nothing to me, and I don't
Speaker 3: have like huge hunger like. But I mean, I do
Speaker 3: notice the less processed food I eat way better, way better,
Speaker 3: even if it's not the best thing. But I do
Speaker 3: get weird cravings of certain things that I know are
Speaker 3: good for me, like quenoa. The first time I ate it,
Speaker 3: I was like, this is weird, but it reminds me
Speaker 3: of rice and I miss rice. So I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: I can make rice dishes with the quin wa for
Speaker 3: my family because I can't eat rice. And I'm not
Speaker 3: trying to die today because we played that game before
Speaker 3: at the movie so exactly. I probably would have kept going.
Speaker 3: Had that not happened, I'd have been like, he's full
Speaker 3: of it, but no, it really yeah, And so anyway,
Speaker 3: long story short, I noticed, like I'll crave it really weird,
Speaker 3: like just I could eat a whole bowl of it,
Speaker 3: like a big bowl, and I'm like, that's weird. I
Speaker 3: don't do that, you know. So some things I think
Speaker 3: you do have to listen to your body, like maybe
Speaker 3: you are lacking something that's in that thing, you know,
Speaker 3: whatever that is. It doesn't happen often to me, but
Speaker 3: quinoa is one, and I'm always trying to get my
Speaker 3: mom to eat it and she's like, you're so weird,
Speaker 3: but yeah, whatever, she doesn't have a rice.
Speaker 2: My favorite thing.
Speaker 3: You have to make it. Oh, I'll send you this
Speaker 3: recipe that is just like, what's that fancy rice dish
Speaker 3: that all the chefs make?
Speaker 2: Risotto?
Speaker 3: Yes, I have a risotta recipe with kwa. It's yummy.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I am strictly a carnivore, so I'm like only
Speaker 2: mate stuff and then you know, sporadic dairy here and there, gotcha.
Speaker 3: But the.
Speaker 2: It has done amazing things for my lab work. And
Speaker 2: like I said that, the joint pain is gone, and
Speaker 2: you know, bloating gas problems, all vowels, all that stuff
Speaker 2: like went away. And I haven't wo, I haven't even
Speaker 2: Let's see what day am I on Now I'm on
Speaker 2: day sixty seven. But here's wow. Here's what it did
Speaker 2: for my lab work because I was having cholesterol issues.
Speaker 2: No matter what I did, couldn't change it, nothing was
Speaker 2: making any difference. It dropped my triglycerides over two hundred
Speaker 2: points wow, and dropped my total cholesterol down forty three points.
Speaker 3: Holy cow. I'm gonna tell my husband about this because
Speaker 3: he's a big, buff guy and he's got weird cholesterol
Speaker 3: blood pressure problems. I am the opposite. I have Like
Speaker 3: they called me and asked me, how did you get
Speaker 3: your cholesterol, your good cholesterol so high? We have not
Speaker 3: seen this, and I'm like, what, I don't know. I
Speaker 3: don't know any of this weird stuff they were thinking
Speaker 3: I had, like some weird supplement or something. The only
Speaker 3: supplement I take is Shilogy. I love Shilogy. I think
Speaker 3: it's really good. It tastes like crap. It straight up
Speaker 3: tastes like you're chewing a piece of your car tire.
Speaker 3: It's horrible. However, yeah it's bad, but it's just a
Speaker 3: couple drops. And I've found that if you put it
Speaker 3: in milk it's way better. So I do that, and
Speaker 3: then I'm not very consistent on it. But I do
Speaker 3: have to take Vitamin D constantly no matter what I do,
Speaker 3: and that's part of EDS. I don't absorb it and
Speaker 3: they give me the prescription. I take it regular, over
Speaker 3: the counter prescription, all of it. It doesn't matter. I
Speaker 3: go out in the sun all that that's just gonna
Speaker 3: make me brown. So I can't luckily iron man.
Speaker 2: Like I was super duper and namic like before my
Speaker 2: back surgery and they're like, you have to get your
Speaker 2: red cell count up and you know whatever. And they
Speaker 2: put me on like six different prescriptions and I was
Speaker 2: not absorbing any of them. Actually had to go and
Speaker 2: get a special one from a health food store and
Speaker 2: that was fine. But then again, I have copper based blood,
Speaker 2: so like the iron was like you, but but I
Speaker 2: I definitely have the what is it the which one
Speaker 2: that has the short stature?
Speaker 3: This?
Speaker 2: Oh plastic? I must have that because I have short stature.
Speaker 2: So I'm not I'm not full nephilom.
Speaker 3: There you go, Yeah, you're missing the hype. You can't
Speaker 3: because you're little.
Speaker 2: My joints are all compacted, that's my excuse. And stuck.
Speaker 3: Yeah you were. You were smashed. They made you with
Speaker 3: one of the dwarf people to try and make a
Speaker 3: normal per right.
Speaker 2: I was one of the testing experiments.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go. You're like, that's what it was,
Speaker 3: for sure. And I mean we often wonder, like I
Speaker 3: do think it's interesting in America how many more things
Speaker 3: we see here than we do in other countries. And
Speaker 3: when I joke about nuffalem, people like, I'm sorry, there's
Speaker 3: some things that America cannot explain like a quarter million
Speaker 3: children being relocated to homes in the orphan train era.
Speaker 3: I just think it's interesting and I definitely have no proof,
Speaker 3: and it's definitely conspiratorial as you can get, but the
Speaker 3: cabbage maybe thing. I just think that it's interesting during
Speaker 3: that time period that we have farm boys everywhere, Like
Speaker 3: they're in the Princess Bride, They're in this, they're in that.
Speaker 3: And I know one thing, if you're going to taint
Speaker 3: a society, the best way to do it is with kids,
Speaker 3: because nobody's gonna just walk away. Yeah, definitely kids. I
Speaker 3: like it. I because most people are farm boys too.
Speaker 3: They're they're good for the work. You gotta have them
Speaker 3: out there working. I was always like on the Princess Bride,
Speaker 3: where is this farm parents? Why is this kid just
Speaker 3: living there? Why is this normal? And then you start
Speaker 3: questioning like why is this always a thing? Back? Oh okay, okay,
Speaker 3: I got it. But you know, I mean, I definitely
Speaker 3: know that Clonaide has some answers. I definitely know that
Speaker 3: there's old gods and goddesses like Diana of Ephesus where
Speaker 3: in India they have said that they knew how to
Speaker 3: clone for years and years and years back back, back
Speaker 3: back when, and so I find that extremely interesting. I
Speaker 3: also find it really interesting that there's all these places
Speaker 3: with the Catholic people in Ireland and whatnot, with a
Speaker 3: bunch of dead babies in the front yard and cemeteries,
Speaker 3: Like what exactly happened there? There wasn't that many abortions, Like,
Speaker 3: let's get real, there's not that many pregnancies per year.
Speaker 3: Let's get really stick care people. Like what were they
Speaker 3: doing at that murder house? Like if you've seen the
Speaker 3: murder House, Like we talked about this before on American
Speaker 3: Horror Story. I'm just saying there was some fuckery afoot.
Speaker 2: In our society.
Speaker 3: That's a bad word, but it was. It's true. I
Speaker 3: don't know, but definitely, Like what was the deal? Like
Speaker 3: we have so many kids, they were working in factories
Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden, we're still gonna save
Speaker 3: all the weird o premi looking babies that didn't look
Speaker 3: quite right, and then they give them away at the
Speaker 3: World's Fair. They're like do you want Oh, you won
Speaker 3: the bottle cap game, here's your baby.
Speaker 2: Like, what what's happening? Please tell me, Teddy bear, when
Speaker 2: you can have a deformed baby.
Speaker 3: Exactly, And I'm like, this is so random, Like I mean,
Speaker 3: we're saving the babies that would have naturally passed when
Speaker 3: we already have an orphan problem, and we're putting them
Speaker 3: all on trains. Makes sense? Like, I don't know, it's
Speaker 3: am I glad they have that technology for nowadays. Absolutely do.
Speaker 3: I think it's weird And the guy wasn't even really
Speaker 3: a doctor, for sure, I do, but you know, it
Speaker 3: is what it is. Also, like these other countries don't
Speaker 3: have the same thing, even if COVID showed us that, right, Like,
Speaker 3: it only happened in certain areas, right, and so Mike,
Speaker 3: that's really weird and it also happened worse in certain races.
Speaker 3: Do I think that they knew what they were doing?
Speaker 2: I mean, just the way genetically modified with Crisper cast
Speaker 2: nine technology, which which begs the question since EDS has
Speaker 2: no cure per se and it's only uh supportive care
Speaker 2: centered or you know, corrective surgeries, bracing, whatever, do you
Speaker 2: foresee them researching and studying this to be something that
Speaker 2: they could cut out of our DNA with Crisper technology.
Speaker 3: Boy, I think they're going to do that with everything.
Speaker 3: I think that as an ultimate goal is to make
Speaker 3: us miserable enough that we will go for the cure.
Speaker 3: It's it's a Gelian dialect in a in a pill, right,
Speaker 3: like oh you're miserable. Oh you don't like this president.
Speaker 3: Oh here's a better one. Okay, let's well you want
Speaker 3: to bake him back now even though he said grab
Speaker 3: him and then you know what like okay, No, this
Speaker 3: is like the same thing in health, like oh, you
Speaker 3: hurt every day? Because what's going to make people really
Speaker 3: do it? Right? Like if we're if this is going
Speaker 3: to get down to the mark, like say, we're going
Speaker 3: hugely conspiratorial here, because this is where my brain is.
Speaker 3: I mean, what is it going to take for people
Speaker 3: to say, you know what, Yeah, I don't want to
Speaker 3: shake all day. I don't want Parkinson's. I don't want
Speaker 3: to get old. I don't want to look old. We've
Speaker 3: seen what the movie stars will do.
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 3: I am terrified now of even an eyebrow lift with
Speaker 3: botox because I see the people. They look crazy crazy.
Speaker 3: I'm not.
Speaker 2: And that's it's funny that you mentioned botox because I
Speaker 2: know that a lot because I used to work for
Speaker 2: a physio doctor, right, and it was like, Oh, your
Speaker 2: your skin is too saggy, Let's do botox. Oh you're
Speaker 2: having all this uh pain everywhere, Let's do botox injections.
Speaker 2: And I was like, you want to inject a toxin
Speaker 2: into somebody issue because you told them that this is
Speaker 2: going to cure like migrains or wrinkles in your face,
Speaker 2: or you know, joint problems or mobility issues or whatever.
Speaker 2: And I know that a lot of doctors specialists like
Speaker 2: that still go to botox for treatment for shit like this.
Speaker 3: Well, and fillers people, the fillers, listen, these fillers that
Speaker 3: they use unless you are getting your own fat injected
Speaker 3: into yourself, which okay, that's a little bit better, but
Speaker 3: the fillers that they overuse them, even if you have
Speaker 3: your own fat injected. They are putting so much in
Speaker 3: people's faces. My husband asked me one day because we
Speaker 3: were watching Jersey Shore. He said, what's up with all
Speaker 3: of their eyes? They're so squinty now. I said, because
Speaker 3: they had to put all the filler in their cheeks
Speaker 3: so their eyes are shut. And he said, really, is
Speaker 3: that really what happened? And I said, I mean, honestly,
Speaker 3: I think so. And he's like, they do that and
Speaker 3: I said, well, look at their faces like before and after.
Speaker 3: Now do I want to age? No, I don't do.
Speaker 3: I look at myself and think, man, I wish I
Speaker 3: could get rid of that. You know, I think taking
Speaker 3: things away is a little bit safer, Like if you
Speaker 3: want a neck tuck like where they're pulling it right,
Speaker 3: and I mean whatever, if I get the weird where
Speaker 3: your separation is here like Turky, that's not happening, I
Speaker 3: will cut that crap off, like that's crazy. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: like that is wild, like and that's just like cutting.
Speaker 3: But like I get it. Some people do the chin
Speaker 3: like they'll put more filler in their chin to make
Speaker 3: that go away, but then you get this giant chin eventually,
Speaker 3: like they all start looking like cartoon characters at some point,
Speaker 3: like look at Madonna and like earlier ones and Share
Speaker 3: and like all these people and I'm like, you guys
Speaker 3: look wild. Even Kim Kardashian now is starting to look
Speaker 3: pretty weird. And I'm just saying, maybe you ought to
Speaker 3: just let it go, because it ain't that bad to
Speaker 3: age like it, you know that. Sarah Jessica Parker, she
Speaker 3: she put out a little post and she said, I
Speaker 3: know what I look like, what do you want me
Speaker 3: to do? I'm aging?
Speaker 4: And I thought, yeah, yeah, And see I don't care
Speaker 4: because I don't have the vanity attached, you know, like
Speaker 4: I am who I am.
Speaker 2: And so that never enters. But that is you know,
Speaker 2: like talking about botox or fillers or whatever, because people
Speaker 2: with eds have weird skin. And how many people go
Speaker 2: constantly to get injections because you can see their veins
Speaker 2: on the back of their legs or whatever. So they're
Speaker 2: getting their veins injected and stuff, which is not safe either.
Speaker 3: I think if you need something fixed, you have to
Speaker 3: do it fully. Like I know it sucks, like veins stripping,
Speaker 3: real stripping. It's minor compared to what it used to be.
Speaker 3: But like at some level something is wrong. If you're
Speaker 3: having to constantly do that, there's a leakage issue. And
Speaker 3: so we have to start using our heads and remember
Speaker 3: like what is this telling me? Why is my body
Speaker 3: doing this?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: Like what is this telling my body? And I think
Speaker 3: we forget that. I think you're like so focused on
Speaker 3: the look of it or whatever. You know, that's just
Speaker 3: not healthy. I am I the healthiest person ever. Nope,
Speaker 3: you're going to see me drink a PEPSI probably every
Speaker 3: couple shows like, yep, that's what happens. So, you know,
Speaker 3: there's some things where I draw the line and other
Speaker 3: things I don't. And that's just a personal choice. You know,
Speaker 3: I'm not going to live my life without ever doing that.
Speaker 3: But there's plenty of people that do, you know. And
Speaker 3: I mean that literally was a hardcore for me. When
Speaker 3: I was really heavy, I was like thinking about the
Speaker 3: stomach surgery and they're like no, so to ever again.
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, let's go home. I'm not doing this shit.
Speaker 3: Like I was like no, yeah, and my daughter did
Speaker 3: it and she's like, yeah, you really can't. It makes
Speaker 3: you feel like you're going to explode. And I'm like
Speaker 3: that's really weird. Like but but you know, I get it.
Speaker 3: Like she was at a level where she needed that
Speaker 3: and she didn't care. So I mean, I also understand
Speaker 3: that's also taking things out. You know, do I feel
Speaker 3: it's one hundred percent safe? No, she was. It was
Speaker 3: pretty critical. That was you know, three hundred pounds and
Speaker 3: morbid comorbidities and different things. That's a lot different than
Speaker 3: a little bit of weight. I see women going in
Speaker 3: for that that are like thirty pounds overweight, right, I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 2: Hey, you know, they could always smoke to Canada and
Speaker 2: Trudeau will just euthanize them because that's a commonplace thing now.
Speaker 2: I mean euthanizing people for depression. I'm sure if people
Speaker 2: had a oh idio yeah, Idia.
Speaker 3: Well, and that's the thing, like, later are they going
Speaker 3: to start like saying things like screening us like, oh
Speaker 3: well you have this, so bye bye, You're a drain
Speaker 3: on society. Jennet, you had a lot of spine work, righty,
Speaker 3: same with you. You know, you're going like, I don't know.
Speaker 3: The future seems wild to me, but I used to
Speaker 3: live in a world where I'm like that would never happen,
Speaker 3: not so much anymore.
Speaker 2: Well, and you know the interesting thing which came into
Speaker 2: my mind about like people with the EDS, no matter
Speaker 2: what kind of EDS that you have, and guarantee you
Speaker 2: this happens to literally everyone, and they're so irritated and annoyed.
Speaker 2: You go to the doctor because you know, X, Y
Speaker 2: and Z is the problem and they run you know,
Speaker 2: thousands of dollars worth of test and they're like, well,
Speaker 2: we don't know, I have no idea. Go home. It
Speaker 2: must be in your head. It's all it's all psychosomatic.
Speaker 2: It's in your head, you're imagining it. Imagine how many
Speaker 2: people have EDS that don't know it, because that's the
Speaker 2: answers that they get all the time.
Speaker 3: Hm. Oh yeah, because the doctors are so rare. And
Speaker 3: I guess in Utah this is a random, weird fact.
Speaker 3: In Utah there is a large EDS community and I
Speaker 3: only know that when I got diagnosed. They told me,
Speaker 3: you know, there's this one doctor, one doctor in the
Speaker 3: main area of Salt Lake that does this, and he's
Speaker 3: like the guy about it and blah blah blah, and
Speaker 3: he had a whole clinic. And I don't even think
Speaker 3: it's running anymore because literally it's so looked down on
Speaker 3: m hm. So I mean to even get a diagnosis.
Speaker 3: I'm in multiple pages online on Facebook on different things.
Speaker 3: They're called like zebra. They call you a zebra because
Speaker 3: you might sound like a horse like walking, but sometimes
Speaker 3: you turn around and it's a zebra like. It's like
Speaker 3: the surprise diagnosis, I think, is why they said. But
Speaker 3: a lot of people go by zebra, and some of
Speaker 3: their stuff is really serious, like how Ellie's allergy are
Speaker 3: far worse than mine, like kind of like that. You know,
Speaker 3: it's like all over the board on seriousness, and you know,
Speaker 3: they shut it down and there's a huge community of
Speaker 3: it out here, and so I mean, I'm sure it's
Speaker 3: from the polygamy and breeding from.
Speaker 2: What especially since it's genetic in nature and it passes
Speaker 2: generation to generation through you know, recessive genes or dominant
Speaker 2: genes or whatever, and it's like there's just has to
Speaker 2: be like an interesting amount of people that have this.
Speaker 2: And one of the things that I thought about because
Speaker 2: I was like, I really do have it, like if
Speaker 2: anybody else in my family has that kind of thing
Speaker 2: and stuff, and you know what I thought about, let
Speaker 2: me see if you can see it. Could you see
Speaker 2: my creepy finger? I guess it doesn't look like it's
Speaker 2: so much anyway. My finger has this big noddule and
Speaker 2: it like is skewed to the side. Oh, And and
Speaker 2: they're like, well, it's an arthritic nodule, and I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: my my finger was always normal. And then that joint
Speaker 2: started hurting and then my finger just like went to
Speaker 2: the side.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: And I got thinking about it, and I'm like, you
Speaker 2: know what, my Grandma's hands were that way, like literally
Speaker 2: all of her fingers when in all different directions, and
Speaker 2: my mom has the same thing. So that's not just
Speaker 2: an arthritic nodule. That is literally.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, they are. There are ring splints specifically for
Speaker 3: the fingers because this happens so often, and they're just
Speaker 3: like they go all the way down, and I know,
Speaker 3: my one finger bends that way too. My one finger
Speaker 3: bends side to the side. I don't have the nodules,
Speaker 3: both of them bent to the opposite directions, and I'm
Speaker 3: you know, nobody else in my family really has that,
Speaker 3: but but it was my dad's side that would have
Speaker 3: probably had this because they look like they did. You know,
Speaker 3: my grandpa had the elbow like your knee, and it
Speaker 3: would constantly have like a big bursa on the on
Speaker 3: it from you know, filling up with stuff because it
Speaker 3: probably was hyper hyper reluxing all the time. And he
Speaker 3: just was like the kind of guy like he was
Speaker 3: pretty like, it's fine, don't worry about it. You know.
Speaker 3: I was always like, what in the heck, Yeah, I'm like,
Speaker 3: what's on your elbow? You should have that looked at.
Speaker 3: And he's like, eh, doesn't hurt. Yeah, And you know.
Speaker 2: Another thing that I was reading that's that's very common
Speaker 2: with one of these, I can't remember which one it was,
Speaker 2: was cist cyst formation, and I was like, I had
Speaker 2: an issue with that for a while until like complete
Speaker 2: dietary change and all of that stuff. But like even
Speaker 2: you know, like cyst on your on your nerves or
Speaker 2: you know, even if it's just a utaneous cyst or
Speaker 2: something like that, but it was chronic cyst formation and
Speaker 2: I was like, huh, And the that's interesting.
Speaker 3: The fat deposit cysts to them. What are the I
Speaker 3: can't I think of that right now, Like poma lipomas likes,
Speaker 3: but if they take them out, more and more and
Speaker 3: more will come, right, and so there's like no no
Speaker 3: way to get out of it.
Speaker 2: It's like weird and aromas people that have neuromas. It's
Speaker 2: the same kind of thing. And I wonder if if
Speaker 2: that isn't part of uh EDS also, because it's like
Speaker 2: when you remove one, they just like satellite and spread
Speaker 2: like all over the place.
Speaker 3: That's so wild and then you know you're just screwed.
Speaker 3: And I mean, I just think that there's so many
Speaker 3: people that probably have this, and it's underlying for so
Speaker 3: many other things, and they don't study it. They don't
Speaker 3: want to. They want us sick, they want us dependent,
Speaker 3: they want I mean, if this causes all of the
Speaker 3: things we're talking about, that's a big portion of EpiPen users,
Speaker 3: allergy testing, allergy shots, all this stuff.
Speaker 2: It's big money, just like anything seen medication, dental stuff,
Speaker 2: all of the time, eye exams constantly. It would not
Speaker 2: move them to spend a lot of money studying this
Speaker 2: because fit look at how many billions of patients they
Speaker 2: would lose.
Speaker 3: M anything that's big like that, they won't here big
Speaker 3: big money diabetes, cancer, probably this stuff, like anything that
Speaker 3: affects a big portion of people. They're not going to
Speaker 3: fix it, right, and they make it, you know, constantly
Speaker 3: harder to get medication, constantly harder, you know what, Like
Speaker 3: they're they're demonizing people like I see this and family
Speaker 3: members that I know have chronic pain issues. Now they
Speaker 3: can't get their medication because other people are overdosing off
Speaker 3: of drugs off the street. They're not even real like
Speaker 3: they've demonized the cell of medical grade drugs. And I'm
Speaker 3: sorry this is probably not a great opinion for some people,
Speaker 3: but I don't think it should be illegal. I don't,
Speaker 3: because then it opens up for cartels to come in.
Speaker 3: It just does, and it opens up for people to
Speaker 3: accidentally overdose on something that they really don't know where
Speaker 3: it came from or what it is. Right, And you're
Speaker 3: always going to have people that have addiction, whether it
Speaker 3: be alcohol is the number one scariest addiction to take
Speaker 3: people off of, not heroin.
Speaker 2: And I do it, yeah.
Speaker 3: And I do this for a living. And I'm telling
Speaker 3: you people, the scariest drug is right down the street
Speaker 3: at your store. So why is it that we demonize
Speaker 3: everything else? Do I think it's great if somebody has
Speaker 3: an addiction problem? No, I do not. But I also
Speaker 3: think it's safer if it was regulated and controlled like
Speaker 3: but it's never going to happen because, honestly, behind every
Speaker 3: cartel is the government.
Speaker 2: I was just going to say compliments of the CIA.
Speaker 3: And you know they can say that, but you know,
Speaker 3: this is a war on drugs, all right. There was
Speaker 3: a war on drugs to demonize drugs, to hurt people,
Speaker 3: and to make it go so underground that they could
Speaker 3: lace things and wipe out a whole bunch of people.
Speaker 3: And then they make it hard on the people that
Speaker 3: really actually do need it, and then you watch people
Speaker 3: just die or pain like that's not how it's supposed
Speaker 3: to be. It's just not And as a nurse, I
Speaker 3: have a problem with that because we used to treat pain,
Speaker 3: We used to help people. Do I think they should
Speaker 3: be gorked out of their lid? No, right, not saying that,
Speaker 3: you know, it's there's got to be a balance in everything,
Speaker 3: because I'll tell you, although people will demonize this, oxy
Speaker 3: conton was a really good drug for a lot of people.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry that that might be an unpopular belief, but
Speaker 3: it made some people that have chronic pain issues like
Speaker 3: real ones. Like my dad had such bad chronic pain.
Speaker 3: And when they took that away where he was a
Speaker 3: diabetic with neuropathy and he was a diabetic since he
Speaker 3: was eight years old, everything was destroyed and he probably
Speaker 3: had this as well. And I watched him suffer for
Speaker 3: absolutely zero reason and have to be you know, on
Speaker 3: short acting every couple hours and then there's this high
Speaker 3: and low and all over the place. And he didn't
Speaker 3: like that. He just wanted to be normal, you know,
Speaker 3: he didn't want to be high. But I get it.
Speaker 3: People used him the wrong way. Like, what do you do?
Speaker 3: I don't know. People are always going to do things
Speaker 3: the wrong way. You're not going to stop it.
Speaker 2: We can't get out of our own way to save ourselves, right,
Speaker 2: There's always going to be a bat, a bullet spoils
Speaker 2: the bunch because they don't know how to adult.
Speaker 3: So I mean, but at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: here's the thing I do know. Drug addicts know how
Speaker 3: to get their medication, right. They're drug picks as I
Speaker 3: watched my brother do it until he died, and it
Speaker 3: makes me sad, and I know firsthand how horrible that
Speaker 3: can be. But I do not think any of the
Speaker 3: legislature or the rules affected him being able to get
Speaker 3: what he needed at all. It just made it less safe, right,
Speaker 3: that's all he did. And so you know, where do
Speaker 3: you draw the line? Right, I don't know. I don't know,
Speaker 3: but I don't think it should be fully controlled like
Speaker 3: it is. It's a bit much when we're just watching
Speaker 3: addicts go to prison for being addicted and what does
Speaker 3: that help? Nothing helps nothing.
Speaker 2: And imagine somebody going through withdrawals in prison.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, they don't even care.
Speaker 2: Who's going to say, do they care? Are they going
Speaker 2: to provide a good bedside manner, and they don't.
Speaker 3: Care if you die. Yeah, they don't care if you
Speaker 3: have a seizure in there, Like if you have a seizure,
Speaker 3: then they might transport you, but they're not gonna they
Speaker 3: don't care. They don't care about that. And I've I've
Speaker 3: seen it a lot of times and I'm just like,
Speaker 3: this isn't safe practice, like regardless. But the number one
Speaker 3: drug that I'm afraid of for like my family, or
Speaker 3: my kids or or my whoever, is alcohol, because I've
Speaker 3: seen people come off of it and it's terrifying and
Speaker 3: you can die.
Speaker 2: I was going to say, it is literally one of
Speaker 2: the worst things to detox from. And the effects that
Speaker 2: it has on your body as a whole, your organs
Speaker 2: and the whole nine yards. It's a very very painful,
Speaker 2: very scary thing to watch.
Speaker 3: And we have to, you know, as a withdrawal nurse,
Speaker 3: watch people so closely and pre medicate. We have like
Speaker 3: little scales and everything to it's called the Sea law,
Speaker 3: and we make sure because we can see literally it
Speaker 3: affects everything. It affects your brain, it affects your vascular
Speaker 3: it affects everything. And they don't outlaw that I wonder why.
Speaker 2: You know, well, it creates lifelong patients, right because then
Speaker 2: if you go into a hepadic issue or whatever from
Speaker 2: from you know, over drinking or whatever, then uh oh
Speaker 2: they got you for you know, heptitis, B meds or
Speaker 2: you know, whatever kind of treatments they want to use.
Speaker 3: So and I mean I watch people come in for
Speaker 3: like math addiction, and they're like, okay, go sleep. They
Speaker 3: don't even really do anything for them, They're like, okay,
Speaker 3: go to bed. You want something in three days, we'll
Speaker 3: see in three days. Like I'm always like really you guys,
Speaker 3: like and people are just kind of hardened to it,
Speaker 3: and I get it, but I'm like they're still coming
Speaker 3: off something, like they're still uncomfortable. You know. I don't know,
Speaker 3: I don't know what is the answer is a nurse
Speaker 3: where empathy ends and your brains begin, right, Like part
Speaker 3: of me is like I don't know that that's exactly
Speaker 3: going to help them, you know, Like all that's going
Speaker 3: to want make them want to do is check out
Speaker 3: Ama and go get whatever they need to get. Like
Speaker 3: that doesn't seem wise to you know, well, but I
Speaker 3: mean I don't.
Speaker 2: Know that also could could play into eds where people
Speaker 2: are seeking street drugs or painful whatever. Because you go
Speaker 2: to the doctor and you get the same old cane dancer.
Speaker 2: It must be in your head. It's psychosmatic because we
Speaker 2: can't find anything. All the tests are negative. So go
Speaker 2: home and suffer basically in silence. And so what if
Speaker 2: people do they turn to things like that for help
Speaker 2: because it is painful.
Speaker 3: Don't know what to do? Yeah, and if you don't
Speaker 3: do it that way, yeah, if you don't do it
Speaker 3: that way, and you let's say you do your like
Speaker 3: the perfect patient. You just go home and take ibuprofene.
Speaker 3: Guess it'll kill you first. Guess what's the number one
Speaker 3: most dangerous to drugs on the whole market. Screw the opioids.
Speaker 3: People and if are terrifying, terrifying, And I'm like, you
Speaker 3: only get one chance with ibuprofene because once you screw yourself,
Speaker 3: that bad on it. And a leave is my most
Speaker 3: unfavorite one because it's so long acting that people are like,
Speaker 3: I can't take it anymore. I'm going to take another one.
Speaker 3: And if you do that, you'll never get a leave
Speaker 3: again in your life because you'll be able to never
Speaker 3: take it again, never again. And people don't understand the
Speaker 3: damage they do right, like they're kidney damage. By the
Speaker 3: time we see them, we're like, oh my.
Speaker 2: Gosh, But that's that's commonplace because all the nurse's office,
Speaker 2: doctor's offices, whatever, that is literally the first thing they'll
Speaker 2: tell you, whether you have a fief or joint pain
Speaker 2: or whatever whatever. Whatever. Uh, take thailand, ibuprofene, Oh you
Speaker 2: have cramps, take a leave, You'll be okay. And that's
Speaker 2: literally what the days before.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the days before we had muco missed. When you
Speaker 3: did a tailan all overdose, We're like, we'll call your
Speaker 3: lawyer and your mom and like get your in order
Speaker 3: because you're gonna die. They were literally like, we don't
Speaker 3: know what to tell you. You're gonna die soon. And
Speaker 3: now with muco mist which is something they can give
Speaker 3: to help help people not die of that, Thank heavens.
Speaker 3: It's a respiratory inhalent drug, but side affect weird. If
Speaker 3: you drink it, it helps, So don't do any of
Speaker 3: that at home. This is not medical advice. This is
Speaker 3: just two nurses BSM. But I'm just saying like I
Speaker 3: know that, and yeah, don't don't count on it because
Speaker 3: you still might not make it. Don't play with tail
Speaker 3: and all and ib perfeman, don't be playing because that's a.
Speaker 2: Lot of a lot of people that have like issues
Speaker 2: with their liver also have the issues with cholesterol, also
Speaker 2: have issues with diabetes, because your liver not only is
Speaker 2: the largest detoxification agent in the body, but is the
Speaker 2: powerhouse which handles and processes the sugar and the cholesterol
Speaker 2: and the body. And so years and years of tile
Speaker 2: and all use or I profen use or whatever is
Speaker 2: exactly what is contributing to the problems that you see
Speaker 2: on your lab work with cholesterol and diabetes numbers.
Speaker 3: Well, and here's the thing, the number one thing that
Speaker 3: helped me the most. And I'm going to send you
Speaker 3: pictures and I don't care it's like fat shaming whatever.
Speaker 3: I don't care. Put them on there. People can look
Speaker 3: at it for theirselves and see this. When I got up.
Speaker 3: My husband was the one. He told me one day,
Speaker 3: he said, I'm not telling you to lose weight, like
Speaker 3: I love you. My husband's a gym rat. He's like
Speaker 3: a big old jacked guy. Like he's crazy healthy looking,
Speaker 3: like if you saw him on the street you'd be like, whoa,
Speaker 3: you know, he's healthy, healthy guy, but he's not, but
Speaker 3: his internal isn't because he's got these familial cholesterol issues.
Speaker 3: I'm going to tell him about what you said. But
Speaker 3: either way, whatever, he goes to the gym all the time.
Speaker 3: And he used to tell me like it's for my sanity,
Speaker 3: it's more his brain therapy. For him. It's really not
Speaker 3: about him looking jacked. Okay, that's just a great side
Speaker 3: effect for me. But because I love him and he's great,
Speaker 3: and I'm like okay, And I always told him, like
Speaker 3: I can't go with you. He's like, yes, you can.
Speaker 3: You can modify, you can do this, you can do that.
Speaker 3: But years of people telling me, no, you can't. You
Speaker 3: have all these problems. You can't do that, you can't
Speaker 3: do this, you can't do that, He's like, I'm going
Speaker 3: to show you some things you can do, just small,
Speaker 3: you know, And even if it's like the stretching exercises
Speaker 3: that are like somatic exercises, which is kind of what
Speaker 3: I have to do now other than I ride the
Speaker 3: bike for the old people with the back support because
Speaker 3: of my degree. But I do what I can and
Speaker 3: I still go and I still have maintained my weight.
Speaker 3: But when I did that, I lost a bunch of
Speaker 3: weight and I felt better. I feel better when I go,
Speaker 3: like everything changed, and now I've been able to stable.
Speaker 3: It ticks me off because I can't lose weight anymore
Speaker 3: right now. But my doctor always is like, but you're
Speaker 3: not gaining back where you were, Like this is good,
Speaker 3: this is good.
Speaker 2: It's very common for females.
Speaker 3: Well, and after the hysterectomy thing, it really sucks. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 3: well whatever, but he was, you know, he's an etochronologist
Speaker 3: and he i mean diabetes, like that's his thing. And
Speaker 3: he's always telling me like, just keep doing what you're
Speaker 3: doing because your labs look good, your internal looks good.
Speaker 3: Like I know you're heavier than you want to be.
Speaker 3: And it's that's nice from a doctor because like sometimes
Speaker 3: they would just say like, oh, well you're heavier.
Speaker 2: Or that you're fat.
Speaker 3: Now now it's became a thing, and it's really awkward
Speaker 3: because I'm fat in one area and it's behind me and.
Speaker 2: My son's friend, it's beneath me.
Speaker 3: Yep. Now it's a thing to have a really small
Speaker 3: rib cage, which is very common in eds. To have
Speaker 3: a small rib cage actually too small, and your ribs
Speaker 3: will pop in and out, which happens to me sometimes,
Speaker 3: and then a bigger butt area so that curvy look
Speaker 3: like of course it like that, and so now it's
Speaker 3: a thing. And when it started being a thing, I
Speaker 3: was like, what in the hell is going on? Because
Speaker 3: I was always just like the chubby girl, like nobody
Speaker 3: cared about that. But now that's not the thing, and
Speaker 3: it's weird, that's all I know. It's very strange and
Speaker 3: makes me feel awkward because it's kids. It's not grown
Speaker 3: up people like our age, because it wasn't a thing
Speaker 3: in our age group, Like it's not as much a
Speaker 3: little bit, but it really is a weird thing with
Speaker 3: his area of group, like high schoolers. I'm like, oh
Speaker 3: my gosh, you weird. You're weird. Get away, get me
Speaker 3: away from you.
Speaker 2: Like mutants.
Speaker 3: Maybe, yeah, you made me feel so uncomfortable, Like I
Speaker 3: feel uncomfortable. But what's the opposite of pedophilia like old
Speaker 3: people chasing? I don't know, but I don't like it.
Speaker 3: I don't like that awkward. I'm going to find out
Speaker 3: the name.
Speaker 2: That's gerophiilia.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's what it is. It's very strange, very strange.
Speaker 3: I don't understand it when it started to happen because
Speaker 3: I always had, you know, thunder thighs, that's what they
Speaker 3: call it. Right back in the Island days. Heather locklayer
Speaker 3: was the thing in our era, and like being ninety
Speaker 3: two heroin cheek pounds, like I was like, great, Kate Moss,
Speaker 3: I want to die now. Like it was not a thing.
Speaker 3: And if you had that curvy or shape, you just
Speaker 3: it was not a thing. It wasn't good. It was bad.
Speaker 3: And so I remember I almost had surgery to have
Speaker 3: it sucked out of my thighs because I could never
Speaker 3: lose the saddle bags, right, no matter how goold I got,
Speaker 3: they're just there. And now that's like people are putting
Speaker 3: they're fat. They're like having their butts done with like
Speaker 3: fat from somewhere else on their body, like Brazilian butt lifts,
Speaker 3: and I think it's hysterical. I'm like, wait till they
Speaker 3: try to sit down on an airplane.
Speaker 2: Right wait, no, you know you know what made me
Speaker 2: think of that when you said that I had a
Speaker 2: patient one time. You know how they started doing butt lifts, right, yeah,
Speaker 2: but implants, yeah, I had a patient come in once
Speaker 2: that the butt implant moved and oh my gosh, it flipped. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was like, that is disturbing on so many levels, Like,
Speaker 2: we can't help you here. I'm gonna have to call
Speaker 2: you a specialist.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we need at specialist.
Speaker 2: Butt implants here. No.
Speaker 3: Well, and they've quit doing that and now they just
Speaker 3: gain weight if you can, I guess, gain weight and
Speaker 3: suck it out and put it back. That's why Kim
Speaker 3: Kardashian was like, go ahead and extray my booty. It's
Speaker 3: all natural. I'm like, it's all natural from somewhere else.
Speaker 3: You suck that out of your belly and stuck it
Speaker 3: in your butt, you know, which is fine, No shame here.
Speaker 3: But I'm just saying, like, be honest, nobody, come on,
Speaker 3: I mean mine is I shouldn't see nobody.
Speaker 2: I am not transplanting any of my fat to another
Speaker 2: portion of my body. That's not gonna happen.
Speaker 3: Wait till they try to buy pants when you have
Speaker 3: a really small waist and it's it's not good. I
Speaker 3: don't think the clothes people got the memo about this
Speaker 3: whole thing that everybody. I guess it's stretchy. Pants. Now
Speaker 3: I'm a whole I don't care.
Speaker 2: Big boobs and a small waist, yeah, yeah, yeah, things
Speaker 2: like that, Like it just is a so imagine how
Speaker 2: many how many people like spend a lot of money
Speaker 2: on tailors and stuff to get closed there?
Speaker 3: Oh you would have to, especially like I am built
Speaker 3: that way, and I am telling you nothing fits, nothing fits,
Speaker 3: And I'm super tall and you're super short, so you're
Speaker 3: probably hem and stuff that I need length. I got
Speaker 3: a shirt from Amazon the other day. It's supposed to
Speaker 3: be a real shirt, and I put it on and
Speaker 3: it was like this short, and I started laughing, and
Speaker 3: I said, I told my husband I am far too
Speaker 3: old and far too fat for a time, and he goes,
Speaker 3: you're not fat at all. I'm like, this is not okay.
Speaker 2: I don't care to see what's blow my.
Speaker 3: Boobs well, and it's I mean, my my up and
Speaker 3: torso is great, but I'm still like, I'm old. That's
Speaker 3: so awkward. Could you imagine if I showed up and
Speaker 3: a cropped off at the kids' school. I don't care
Speaker 3: how good it looks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when we go on our vacation together, please.
Speaker 3: Don't vacation's different vacation's different, but I still don't do that.
Speaker 3: I still have like a tankini for my swimsuit because
Speaker 3: I just know. Nope, I'm I know how old I am.
Speaker 3: Whatever I look like, it doesn't matter. I know how
Speaker 3: old I am. And my kids are always like, thank
Speaker 3: you for that because my step kids, their mom dresses
Speaker 3: a little more. She has a really nice body. Not
Speaker 3: gonna like she's little. She's little and she can pull
Speaker 3: it off. I mean sort of, but like, also that's
Speaker 3: their mom, Like she looks great. I mean, but that's
Speaker 3: their mom. And they're like, please don't do that. I'm like, no, no.
Speaker 3: When I lost weight, they were like, I'm like, no,
Speaker 3: don't you don't have to worry about that. Yeah, they
Speaker 3: were like worried, especially my son. He was like, oh
Speaker 3: my gosh, Mom, all the guys at school talk about
Speaker 3: you already. Please Lord help me. Do not ever show
Speaker 3: up in anything weird. I'm like, what I wore sweat
Speaker 3: pay pants. When they came over, He's like, I know,
Speaker 3: you know what. And I was on this is the
Speaker 3: Funniest Thing conspiracy Wait, No, whoever was I? Oh my gosh,
Speaker 3: I can't remember now. I was on some show I
Speaker 3: can't remember which one. It was a conspiracy one, I'll think,
Speaker 3: But anyway, they told me sweatpants were a flex and
Speaker 3: I didn't even know what that meant. So I got
Speaker 3: off the show and I said, hey, son, let's mean
Speaker 3: sweatpants are flex. He's like, no, that's yeah, that's the thing.
Speaker 3: And I was like, so I can't wear my sweatpants,
Speaker 3: Like what why am I supposed to wear?
Speaker 2: And a skirt down to your feet? I don't know,
Speaker 2: because I like, you shouldn't wear yoga pants, you shouldn't
Speaker 2: wear this, you shouldn't wear that.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, well, I'm gonna wear the regular stuff.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna wear the regular stuff. If it's a crop top.
Speaker 3: Missed me with that exactly, what say.
Speaker 2: Skin my body hugging?
Speaker 3: Uh. Occasionally you will catch me in a shirt like that,
Speaker 3: but not address it will flare. Yes, no, not having that,
Speaker 3: but not for me. Hopefully we've shed some light on
Speaker 3: all this and made you laugh. I hope about our
Speaker 3: wardrobe malfunctions because this is real life.
Speaker 2: Is real life?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this is real life, and I feel like
Speaker 3: women will understand and trying to find things like thank
Speaker 3: God for Amazon's return. That's all I can say on that.
Speaker 3: You can hate the billionaires all you want, but you
Speaker 3: know what.
Speaker 2: A service that no one else says.
Speaker 3: Exactly, and until it's chipped, I'm going to use it.
Speaker 2: Exactly.
Speaker 3: Miss me with the chip, miss me with the neuralink
Speaker 3: Amazon chip.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not not getting one of those, and h definitely
Speaker 2: not giving them keys to my house to leave the
Speaker 2: package inside. Definitely not or the code to my garage.
Speaker 3: And no codes for your locks on your doors people,
Speaker 3: because let me explain, code breakers are a thing, and
Speaker 3: the CIA and the FBI they know how to do that.
Speaker 3: That's really simple. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Also, why why I don't?
Speaker 3: Also I would not drive the elon MUSKR? What is
Speaker 3: it a tesla? Because you know that the lady that
Speaker 3: owned the boat that hit the bridge, the lady that
Speaker 3: owned the boat that hit the bridge two weeks ago,
Speaker 3: died because she was driving home, being driven home by
Speaker 3: her tesla and it put itself in reverse. This is real,
Speaker 3: not a conspiracy, and drove her into a lake where
Speaker 3: she therefore drowned.
Speaker 2: Right does it have a hackable computer system?
Speaker 3: I'm just she k four times the normal amount of
Speaker 3: a drunk person as well.
Speaker 2: My gas powered vehicle. Ah, and I will drive until
Speaker 2: uh it falls apart.
Speaker 3: Same girl, Same I got a stick shift. And by
Speaker 3: the way, I like driving a stick shift. I grew
Speaker 3: up driving a stick shift.
Speaker 2: I can't. I don't know how.
Speaker 3: I'm a country, well your country, I'm Utah country.
Speaker 2: I just know I never learned because nobody in my
Speaker 2: family ever had one.
Speaker 3: So h yeah, yeah, it's my grandpa was a trucker.
Speaker 3: He's like, you can't drive until you learn how to
Speaker 3: do this. And it was a it was a four
Speaker 3: on the floor. It's old and I was like, oh
Speaker 3: my gosh, and it was. It was interesting. But that's
Speaker 3: okay because funny enough, my FJ has reversed in the
Speaker 3: same spot as his old jeep, so I'm like, actually,
Speaker 3: this came in handy. That's kind of funny.
Speaker 2: But did they even make very many stick shifts anymore?
Speaker 3: I don't know that they do. I know my FJ
Speaker 3: is super rare because it's a stick shift and people
Speaker 3: have offered me a ton of money for it, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, get out of here with that. I love
Speaker 3: my FJ. Ain't going nowhere. But yeah, they I think
Speaker 3: they're pretty rare now, and it's probably because they can't
Speaker 3: be driven without a human. I would imagine the mechanical
Speaker 3: poll isn't going to happen with a computer. I guess.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, That's why I love my truck, and I
Speaker 2: love it because it is a basic drug. Doesn't have
Speaker 2: bells and whistles and all that shit on it, because
Speaker 2: mine will last a lot longer than the onboard computer
Speaker 2: system stuff will.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't trust anything anymore.
Speaker 2: Take that, and.
Speaker 3: I'm not getna chip to get rid of my ds.
Speaker 3: But I am thankful and Janet should be as well.
Speaker 3: That we didn't age very much in our faces. Now
Speaker 3: my body, that's a whole nother day, the whole thing.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna leave this here, Okay, So you know,
Speaker 2: the loose, saggy skin whatever. And another year or two
Speaker 2: I should be able to tuck my boobs into my waistbands.
Speaker 3: They can fix that. That's just that's just a cut.
Speaker 3: Anything they can cut off, anything they can take off.
Speaker 3: I'm okay about. I'm like, I would take some stuff off,
Speaker 3: but putting stuff in it's another thing.
Speaker 2: I would honestly could cut stuff off myself. If I
Speaker 2: was gonna have something removed, i'd myself. Yeah, no, late
Speaker 2: solve the back pain.
Speaker 3: And had no really actually they would totally pay for
Speaker 3: that for you. You know that, right, it's the thing
Speaker 3: your insurance will pay for that. Known many women that
Speaker 3: that has been paid for for them. So for a
Speaker 3: back pain, and I mean.
Speaker 2: I would have to go uh very far away to
Speaker 2: a hospital that would actually do that because we don't
Speaker 2: performs any major operations of any kind.
Speaker 3: That's okay. You could get a hotel and I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, now for a while, I will.
Speaker 2: I will remain for as long as humanly.
Speaker 3: I will remove my turkey neck. I'm not playing people.
Speaker 3: If I get a turkey neck, it's gonna because it
Speaker 3: can come.
Speaker 2: Take me to that myself. I will do that. Yeah.
Speaker 3: No way.
Speaker 2: Thing about being a nurse as you learn a lot
Speaker 2: of procedures and stuff that you could actually perform on yourself.
Speaker 3: Douturing. I am not good at I had a suture
Speaker 3: my husband. This is a bad story. We were camping
Speaker 3: and I was drunk and he was drunk, and there
Speaker 3: was no getting down the canyon, Like this was serious
Speaker 3: and it was either called nine one one and I
Speaker 3: was like, you bess, be having something fall all the
Speaker 3: way off for that trip because that's going to be
Speaker 3: so expensive. It's like an hour up and an hour
Speaker 3: down this mountain, and this mountain is high up. And
Speaker 3: I said, let me see that damn thing would not
Speaker 3: stop bleeding. He smashed his hand and it was a
Speaker 3: smash wound like where it kind of exploded his thumb
Speaker 3: because he didn't wear the gloves that I put out
Speaker 3: for him, the leather gloves that I said, clearly you
Speaker 3: should have these on, and he did not, and so
Speaker 3: when it caught him, it pinched, smashed it and opened
Speaker 3: it up. Well, I was like, okay, it's not that bad,
Speaker 3: but also it needs attention. So I of course have
Speaker 3: an EMS bag and everything, and I was like, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna have to sew it up. And he was like no,
Speaker 3: remember he passes out and he was like no way.
Speaker 3: I'm like, you better drink some more. Yeah, here and
Speaker 3: like it. And so I did it and he he
Speaker 3: he was drunk enough that it was okay, but and
Speaker 3: he moved once and then so it was kind of
Speaker 3: jagged a little bit. But then he went to work.
Speaker 3: And I'll be down if he did not break his
Speaker 3: sutures open. I was like, I said, don't. I said,
Speaker 3: don't take the immobilizer off. He ripped everything out, ended
Speaker 3: up having to go in anyway, but it got us
Speaker 3: through the weekend.
Speaker 2: Well, ridiculous see sutures. Uh removals, sister, remove.
Speaker 3: Not the turkey neck, dude.
Speaker 2: I have removed many a BB at my house from
Speaker 2: other people. Of course, not in my household, but other
Speaker 2: people would come over. I've done a lot of super
Speaker 2: for an object removals from oh boy, not not down there,
Speaker 2: not from down cell.
Speaker 3: You know. Yeah, that's funny. Oh my gosh. Not the
Speaker 3: turkey though, that's like, that's like muscles and stuff. I
Speaker 3: don't know about that one. It needs sewed back together
Speaker 3: because they split open. Isn't that sucky? I guess we
Speaker 3: have to do mouth yoga, you know. That's the thing.
Speaker 3: I don't know. All right, we're ridiculous, but that's the thing. Look,
Speaker 3: get up face yoga. Not that kind, Janet, Oh my god,
Speaker 3: don't we're bad. Okay, that kind doesn't work as good.
Speaker 3: You have to do specific things and with that.
Speaker 2: And with that we're done.
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Speaker 3: Yes, thank you so much. Have a good day.
Speaker 2: Have a good day guys too,