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Speaker 1: are you today, I'm very well, thank you and fantastic
Speaker 1: good good. Let me start off with a kind of
Speaker 1: a silly or an odd question, but the entire scope
Speaker 1: of all that you do, what do you consider your
Speaker 1: job title to be? I'm ado entertaina Okay, okay, all right,
Speaker 1: I've heard adult entertainer, I've heard content creator, I've heard
Speaker 1: social media manager from some of these girls where it's
Speaker 1: just like the sex is this portion of it, and
Speaker 1: the rest of it is social media and all kinds
Speaker 1: of other bullshit.
Speaker 2: Right, So for me, I generally say so I'll say
Speaker 2: adat entertainer because that's like an umbrella term for me.
Speaker 2: But then like when I'm doing the porn, it's like
Speaker 2: a it's definitely like an adult actress. When I'm doing
Speaker 2: photo shoots and stuff like that. It's more like like
Speaker 2: adult model or something like that. Like I see people
Speaker 2: say that, especially for like fetish things like that, that I
Speaker 2: was the adult model, like fetish models things like that.
Speaker 2: But then my reason that I say adam entertainer is
Speaker 2: because I started as a dancer. I was an exotic dancer,
Speaker 2: adult entertainer for years. That was my career. That was
Speaker 2: like my life career before I started this only like
Speaker 2: a year or two ago.
Speaker 1: You jumped you already. You are so smart, You're already
Speaker 1: jumping down the interview list. Next question, how did you
Speaker 1: initially get into adult entertainment in whatever forum it was?
Speaker 1: When did you go from you know, whatever job or
Speaker 1: whatever you were working before that and you just went,
Speaker 1: fuck it, I can't do this anymore. I have to
Speaker 1: I have to expand out, I have to do something more.
Speaker 2: Fuck this shit, I'll be a stripper. So I was
Speaker 2: twenty five years young. I was living in the UK,
Speaker 2: and I was actually I was a hospitality manager in
Speaker 2: hotels and like Hian hotels, with like pairing the wines
Speaker 2: and spirits and stuff with like really gourmet meals, and
Speaker 2: I really really enjoyed that job. But when I had
Speaker 2: a breakup when I was in my early twenties. I
Speaker 2: had like I was engaged and I had my whole
Speaker 2: life panned ahead of me. He was a chef. I
Speaker 2: was a restaurant manager kind of thing. So that was
Speaker 2: and then literally just before my twenty fifth birthday, we
Speaker 2: broke up and I had a mortgage ship pay that
Speaker 2: was mine and his and you know all of that
Speaker 2: kind of stuff. I was like, fuck, I need more money.
Speaker 2: I should get a bar job after I finished my
Speaker 2: hotel job. And back then I drink a bit, so
Speaker 2: I had a few drinks already went on. I remember
Speaker 2: this was literally the funniest thing. I went on my
Speaker 2: laptop and I was like bar jobs in you know,
Speaker 2: my town was new Ki in the UK, and it
Speaker 2: came up with stripping jobs on Google. Who had like
Speaker 2: strip clubs, different things. That's a good idea, click and look,
Speaker 2: wrote it down and then the next day I was like, hmmm,
Speaker 2: still seems like a good idea. So actually that's how
Speaker 2: I started dancing when I was twenty five, and I
Speaker 2: still carried on with the It was basically it was
Speaker 2: meant to be like a little side job just to
Speaker 2: like get me through a few months of you know,
Speaker 2: making the making ends meet, and then I'd work at
Speaker 2: a new plan and move forward. And literally a few
Speaker 2: months later, I was like, wow, I actually quit my
Speaker 2: stressful as how a hospitality job where I do so
Speaker 2: many hours, you know, sixty hours a week sometimes, and
Speaker 2: I can just have fun, go to the strip club,
Speaker 2: have fun with my girlfriends, you know, and and I
Speaker 2: can travel. I can do whatever I want so and
Speaker 2: I can pay my bills, and I can travel and
Speaker 2: videoal sort of thing. So that's what initially stick me
Speaker 2: over from the civilian vanilla world to the cd underworld
Speaker 2: stripping and taking your clothes off for money and turning
Speaker 2: people on, which is why I can sider myself and
Speaker 2: adult saying it. Because whether I'm dancing, which I don't
Speaker 2: do as much, well I barely do you anymore. Whether
Speaker 2: I'm chatting to somebody and all they want me to
Speaker 2: do is talk about how what a loser they are.
Speaker 2: I love that. That is actually, even though I'm fully
Speaker 2: dressed and I'm maybe having fun laughing like really just
Speaker 2: you know, shooting the shit. Really, that's actually it's what
Speaker 2: I don't sayment because they're finding it, you know.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Like so I I have a question. I mean,
Speaker 1: all right, you you were drinking one night, you got
Speaker 1: the idea, Okay, be a stripper. Google tells you be
Speaker 1: a stripper. You wake up the next day and you go, oh,
Speaker 1: I still kind of want to be a stripper. I
Speaker 1: have had many of those thoughts, but it's mostly when
Speaker 1: I'm drinking and go rob a band, just do it,
Speaker 1: just fucking rob a bank. But I wake up the
Speaker 1: next day and I go, no, that's a terrible idea.
Speaker 1: Did it fit your personality at all to want to
Speaker 1: be a strip Okay?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: Like I'm not a bank robber. So when I wake
Speaker 1: up and go, you thought about robbing a bank last night,
Speaker 1: I think, well, that was stupid. I'm not a bank robber.
Speaker 1: Were you? You know, I never know what the appropriate
Speaker 1: word is here. Were you, even though you were in
Speaker 1: a relationship, hyper sexual or did you? Were you so
Speaker 1: comfortable in your body you were like taking clothes off
Speaker 1: won't be a big deal.
Speaker 2: That part, definitely, they're taking the clothes up part. Being
Speaker 2: European and like I'd already been to nudest beaches and
Speaker 2: grew up around people being topless on the beach and
Speaker 2: stuff and I when I was younger, I used to
Speaker 2: be a sumwash plan I hated townline, so I'd always
Speaker 2: be topless in a thong on the beach, even before
Speaker 2: I was a stripper, So I think I probably the
Speaker 2: first on my home was first was also for public,
Speaker 2: because I'd wear it on the beach, But no, I
Speaker 2: think that. Actually I was approached when I was I
Speaker 2: was only seventeen in a club and somebody came up
Speaker 2: to me was like, hey, how do you want to
Speaker 2: make X amount of money in so many minutes being
Speaker 2: a dancer, And I was like, hmm, that sounds good
Speaker 2: when I was making you know, a lot lot less
Speaker 2: as a waitress when as a teenager and my boyfriend
Speaker 2: was having none of it. My boyfriend at the time
Speaker 2: was like, no, you're not being a pold answer because
Speaker 2: it's kind of like, in fact, I'm talking about like
Speaker 2: the two thou like the early two thousands, and it
Speaker 2: was like very much like a CD dirty like kind
Speaker 2: of idea then and then I think, now it's a
Speaker 2: lot more in the mainstream.
Speaker 1: So sex well, so I saw, okay, I won't throw
Speaker 1: numbers out there because that's that's rude to do. But
Speaker 1: I saw your bio on one thing and I saw
Speaker 1: your age and I went, she looks twenty eight? What
Speaker 1: the fuck is this? Like you just said there early
Speaker 1: two thousands and to someone just looking at a picture
Speaker 1: of you going early two times? What was she four
Speaker 1: years old? Like? Thinking about gain club? Do you talk
Speaker 1: about your age? Do you ever mention your age? Or no?
Speaker 1: I won't. I won't ask you to call it out
Speaker 1: only because you got into this, And they don't mean
Speaker 1: to say later in life in an insulting way at all. Whatsoever,
Speaker 1: later in life you decided to make the move into porn?
Speaker 1: Was that just such a confidence from all the stuff
Speaker 1: you had done prior to that, with the dancing and
Speaker 1: everything else. Were you ready to take that next step?
Speaker 1: Or did someone encourage you? Did you have another mortgage
Speaker 1: payment due and you were drinking one night and you
Speaker 1: just decided, Hey, you know what, let's google a little
Speaker 1: bit more.
Speaker 2: That would be a very interesting Google search. I think
Speaker 2: that would leave me to be like, I want to
Speaker 2: be a porn stuff but no, So basically I would
Speaker 2: say I've always liked to challenge myself. There's a phrase
Speaker 2: that says, when was the last time you did something
Speaker 2: for the first time, and if it's been too long
Speaker 2: since I did something for the first time, I got itchy.
Speaker 2: I get bored super easily, like even in I out
Speaker 2: of ADHD, like like I kind of identify a lot
Speaker 2: of that, but I kind of use as an excuse,
Speaker 2: like they're with me, Like I got some ADHD. It's
Speaker 2: like it makes me very enthusiastic about things, makes me
Speaker 2: like super have lots of ideas and stuff, but also
Speaker 2: it means I kind of get itchy feet and not
Speaker 2: just doing stuff. So when I was I think I
Speaker 2: was like first went into hospitality, and I think I
Speaker 2: love talking to people. I love people, I love like
Speaker 2: interacting with people, and I love putting myself in kind
Speaker 2: of uncomfortable situations that I'm a extroverts. So when I
Speaker 2: was like seventeen, I was like started as a restaurant
Speaker 2: manager and stuff like that. So I was like in
Speaker 2: my early yeah, my teens, in my early twenties, I
Speaker 2: was like people thought I was older than I was
Speaker 2: because I was wearing a suit, I was in a hotel.
Speaker 2: I was like, you know, welcome to the such and
Speaker 2: such blah blah blah. That basically I liked talking shit
Speaker 2: and being in a character role. So the natural progression
Speaker 2: from that being a dancer. I was like, well, yeah,
Speaker 2: like I can go and speak in front of people,
Speaker 2: and I can you know, I can put myself out
Speaker 2: there to welcome people in an entertainment way, in the
Speaker 2: hospitality sense. Let's take that a little bit makes me
Speaker 2: a little bit more comfortable. Let's be naked as we
Speaker 2: do that. Well, let's be grinding on. Somebody would do
Speaker 2: that or something like that, you know. And then I
Speaker 2: actually didn't do very much stage at first, like the
Speaker 2: dancing stage, and then through my career I started being
Speaker 2: moranted that the dancing on the stage, doing more like
Speaker 2: kind of performances bachelor parties where you have to kind
Speaker 2: of like have lots of people watching, usual whipping people
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. So that was like I remember
Speaker 2: the first time I went to the strip club was
Speaker 2: obviously the second time the first time I did a
Speaker 2: bachelor party, and I had like a group of people
Speaker 2: around me, and I'm there like whipping and riding in
Speaker 2: like a like a horse or a dam here or
Speaker 2: something not riding riding.
Speaker 1: Not that I was going to say, this is going
Speaker 1: to take an odd turn, but I like it.
Speaker 2: No, continue, go ahead, just you know, just like kind
Speaker 2: of putting on a show. That's what I think. I like.
Speaker 2: I think whether it's being a restaurant manager in a steakhouse,
Speaker 2: whether it's you know, welcoming people to a hotel, or
Speaker 2: whether it was like having a bachelor group that's like, oh,
Speaker 2: you know what, you guys, celebrating that kind of thing.
Speaker 2: I liked that, but then getting to do it with
Speaker 2: pretty makeup and half dressed and spangly things with my girlfriends,
Speaker 2: and back then I was like, you know, the champagne
Speaker 2: room definitely had champagne in it, so we were always
Speaker 2: having fun shots and you know, it was a great
Speaker 2: way to spend my twenties in traveling and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: So I think that that was the next step from
Speaker 2: that was like, oh, well I can do all that
Speaker 2: in the UK. What about if I get on a
Speaker 2: flight to Canada and go to a club I've never
Speaker 2: been to before. What if I, you know, look up
Speaker 2: on the internet and find a club in Ibiza in
Speaker 2: Spain and go and do you know, some time out
Speaker 2: there and just pack a bag and go take my heels,
Speaker 2: take my click clack heels with me in dis guy.
Speaker 2: So each time has been like a progression of wanting
Speaker 2: to challenge myself, wanting to make myself uncomfortable and do
Speaker 2: something that's kind of exciting and new. So from I
Speaker 2: say only fans was the one that wasn't really that
Speaker 2: only fans was. I was a bit of dancer. I
Speaker 2: lived in a kind of a semi rural area in
Speaker 2: Florida as a new mom I had. I don't really
Speaker 2: talk about family stuff too much. I do like to
Speaker 2: say that I sometimes I'm being a milf and sometimes
Speaker 2: I'm being the m and so, you know, being I
Speaker 2: was definitely at that point in time, I didn't even
Speaker 2: know I was a milth yet. I thought I was
Speaker 2: just a strippo who had had a kid. And then
Speaker 2: OnlyFans And twenty twenty in the.
Speaker 1: What's it called pandemic.
Speaker 2: When everyone, yeah, when people didn't want to do anything
Speaker 2: and we would have to stay aside for a bit,
Speaker 2: well Florida, we didn't have to say is after that long.
Speaker 2: But in the meantime, Schipper's very entrepreneurial spirit, I guess,
Speaker 2: and me and lots of my girlfriends said that open
Speaker 2: up only fans and that was more like the hustle
Speaker 2: will will survive. The hustle will adapt and thrive and survive.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you the jump from uh being
Speaker 1: in the UK working at clubs and then traveling to
Speaker 1: different places. This is I'm sure you love Florida. Everyone
Speaker 1: loves Florida to some extent. But I'm sure being in America,
Speaker 1: I'm sure you do understand too the perception that Florida
Speaker 1: can get at times. Perhaps right, did the how do
Speaker 1: the clubs differ from the UK to something like a
Speaker 1: Florida club? Now, I assume you didn't go to a
Speaker 1: hole in the wall junkie farmer Florida club. Maybe I
Speaker 1: don't know, tell me about it, but how did they compare?
Speaker 2: So I'd have to say definitely that that there's many,
Speaker 2: many different types of clubs, many places like I've worked.
Speaker 2: I don't want to say all over the world, because
Speaker 2: I haven't worked in the Antarctica or anything like that,
Speaker 2: but you know, Australia, North America and Europe. I've got
Speaker 2: a good idea and I'd say that, honestly, the best
Speaker 2: place is to work that if I had, if I
Speaker 2: have one of my girlfriends's in their twenties now, like
Speaker 2: I want to travel dance. You know, I've got this
Speaker 2: is my chance. I'm gonna didn't take it while I'm
Speaker 2: young and free. Blah blah blah. I'd say go to Australia.
Speaker 2: If they're an American, go to Australia. If they're Australia,
Speaker 2: go to America or anywhere else, go to Australia America
Speaker 2: because I like being somewhere that I'm a little bit different.
Speaker 2: Like I did love dancing in you know, my hometown
Speaker 2: kind of thing because it was a bachelor party town,
Speaker 2: so it was what that's that's kind of the the
Speaker 2: summer season was bachelor parties and then the ones you
Speaker 2: could get very slow. We have more like military and
Speaker 2: things like that. So for me that was fun. But
Speaker 2: I like going to Australiahere it's like, oh I've got
Speaker 2: an accent. I'll go out to Canada and it's like,
Speaker 2: oh my god. You know, that was a very very
Speaker 2: The club in Canada was actually my worst experience. That
Speaker 2: was like a hole in the wall. I can't see
Speaker 2: the worst experience because I still enjoyed it. I think
Speaker 2: I root for the underdog, Matt.
Speaker 1: You know where you know where, I think you'd really
Speaker 1: clean up have you ever heard anything? And I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe it's maybe you got to go there with a
Speaker 1: shotgun too. I've always heard the strip clubs in Alaska.
Speaker 1: Those guys come off the oil rigs with just thousands
Speaker 1: of thousands of dollars. I think a beautiful British redhead
Speaker 1: showing up like all the other girls would just go
Speaker 1: home for the night. Have you ever danced in the lane?
Speaker 2: I haven't danced in Alaska. I was actually so when
Speaker 2: I came out here, I was in Key West, and
Speaker 2: then I went from Key West, I was in Gainesville
Speaker 2: for a minute, and then from and I was in Gainesville,
Speaker 2: I was travel out to New Orleans. And then after
Speaker 2: New Orleans, I was like, right, I had this was
Speaker 2: the ex husband. I was like, right, where are we
Speaker 2: going to go next? And we had a few places.
Speaker 2: We had Colorado in the MICUs. Colorado is really good
Speaker 2: for dancing as well. Alaska's really good for dancing, and
Speaker 2: I've heard about that, and San Diego or New Orleans.
Speaker 2: And because we were thinking of starting a family, we
Speaker 2: didn't choose New Orleans as much as that's like I think,
Speaker 2: like soul wise, Florida and New Orleans is kind of
Speaker 2: where I'm at. But you know, we decided to go
Speaker 2: for the San Diego option and the Alaska reason. I
Speaker 2: actually looked at the temperatures.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, well I didn't it was gonna be fun.
Speaker 1: I just said, they think you'd get paid.
Speaker 2: I think that as I'm getting older and more, and
Speaker 2: I will actually say my I don't know if I.
Speaker 1: Say how old, you didn't and then I didn't follow up.
Speaker 2: It's literally like on the internet, my real age.
Speaker 1: I know, I found it.
Speaker 2: I don't want to say he is like legit, it
Speaker 2: doesn't lies. I'm like, yeah, so I have no forty
Speaker 2: or thirty this shit that blew.
Speaker 1: Now I'm thirty eight, but I look like this. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. The difference is, and that's a shame
Speaker 1: that people age differently. I should age as gracefully and
Speaker 1: beautifully as you. No, No, I appreciate the lie. What
Speaker 1: Uh Yeah, I think I think. I mean, you are phenomenal.
Speaker 1: I would have said, you know, twenty eight, twenty nine
Speaker 1: just from some of the pictures.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you. People say that, And it's funny because
Speaker 2: I think a lot of it is like your vibe
Speaker 2: as well. Like obviously I don't look haggard, but I
Speaker 2: could probably if I was like grumpy all the time
Speaker 2: and I was like not happy with life and I
Speaker 2: was fucking the same forty year old guy every night,
Speaker 2: well not not even probably not fucking the same fortiero
Speaker 2: old guy every night. Because I've heard that, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm forty, I should be like hating my husband. I
Speaker 2: have a husband. That's probably why I hate him. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I think that, Yeah, being young, like being around young people,
Speaker 2: being young at heart, and what's the sex, and yeah,
Speaker 2: not doing the same thing. I'd probably have gone crazy
Speaker 2: a long time ago. For I was doing nine to five,
Speaker 2: Like even before I said sex, Well, I couldn't do
Speaker 2: to five. I need someone that's speaking to me kind
Speaker 2: of right.
Speaker 1: I see. There's not a ton of money in free
Speaker 1: porn star interviews, so I still have my day job.
Speaker 1: But this doing this signing off my day, being able
Speaker 1: to come on interview interesting people, create content, make things
Speaker 1: that other people that help get them through their day.
Speaker 1: Now my stuff gets them through their day in a
Speaker 1: different way than yours does. There is more like a
Speaker 1: wrap up at the end of the night, or maybe
Speaker 1: a lunch break in the bathroom. Mine is more like
Speaker 1: they're listening and going I wish I could be that
Speaker 1: loser and just talk to the hottest women in the world.
Speaker 2: Um, do you know what I think? If you find
Speaker 2: enjoying it, then yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, So let me ask you then, do you find
Speaker 1: joy in making and producing porn content? So we've stepped
Speaker 1: out of the striper role. Tell me how you decide
Speaker 1: at that time or who made you your first offer
Speaker 1: where you go, hey, I'm going to go do my
Speaker 1: first boy girl scene maybe and were you still with
Speaker 1: the X or the person at the time. Was there
Speaker 1: any discussion with that, like I'm going to go fuck
Speaker 1: by a guy or were you guys? Kind of like
Speaker 1: lifestyle ly a little bit so.
Speaker 2: Kind of both of those things. So I actually when
Speaker 2: I started my Only Fans, I was still married and
Speaker 2: we had the discussion like okay, like once this is
Speaker 2: out there, then it's not going to be I had
Speaker 2: the kind of easy decision. It's slightly easier. I'd already
Speaker 2: been answer for a long time. I knew there was
Speaker 2: already probably lots of naked pictures of me and you know,
Speaker 2: bachelor party, unflattering videos of me and stuff like that
Speaker 2: out there. Like random out there, not like oh it's
Speaker 2: on the internet, but it's out there and months is
Speaker 2: that that you can't get it off? And I found
Speaker 2: out actually there's a striper gram picture of me on
Speaker 2: a British stripper grand website. I've been trying to get down,
Speaker 2: but like a long no, no, no, no, no, no, long time.
Speaker 2: Why even before I have my boods, I'm not sure?
Speaker 1: Now now wait real quickly in posure, why are you
Speaker 1: trying to get it down? You should just have them
Speaker 1: water market with your only fans across the bottom of it.
Speaker 2: Really that you literally like business brain? This is I wish.
Speaker 2: I wish these were.
Speaker 1: Brains mine too, but you know they're not.
Speaker 2: Maybe, but I think that they did me well for
Speaker 2: the industry. I'm mean anyway, I think your brain would
Speaker 2: have been surplus to requirements. Maybe sometimes that's why I
Speaker 2: get told just like keep my mouth closed and do
Speaker 2: my job, or no, open your mouth and do your job.
Speaker 1: That's what I was going to say. Yeah, I bet
Speaker 1: they don't want it closed all the time. Maybe at
Speaker 1: the beginning, keep it open a bit.
Speaker 2: That time, I was sorry when I said my only
Speaker 2: fans me and the ex husband did have the discussion.
Speaker 2: I actually did because I had access to so many
Speaker 2: hot girls being a strip up, I did lots of
Speaker 2: girl girl and solo and that was kind of where
Speaker 2: we were at. We weren't really much into that life.
Speaker 2: While we weren't at all in the lifestyle as much
Speaker 2: as I was kind of inquisitive about it, that wasn't
Speaker 2: really where our relationship was at. So that went on
Speaker 2: and on, and then after I had my divorce, then
Speaker 2: that's when I had more kind of like more connection
Speaker 2: with people who were more open minded, more like minded,
Speaker 2: and I met my what's now my boyfriend, who was
Speaker 2: my kind of like he was used to like we
Speaker 2: sort of lifestyle boyfriend and content partner. So that's what
Speaker 2: we primarily. We met through the life. I met through
Speaker 2: stc swingers dating and somehow some have found love that
Speaker 2: way and then but we we went together together when
Speaker 2: I had my first pro shoe and my first mainstream
Speaker 2: fun so that was actually I did color. He was
Speaker 2: there when I was coloring with the pan star called
Speaker 2: Peter Fitzwan. He was like, oh, you know, you might
Speaker 2: you know my age, you might be interested in getting
Speaker 2: you booked for And I was like, I said, oh,
Speaker 2: my god, and I was excited. Is go to my
Speaker 2: then content partner, lifestyle boyfriend, and he was like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: So we were both excited about it and and back
Speaker 2: then because it was in the lifestyle, it's kind of like, well,
Speaker 2: that's very normal. It wasn't like I'm gonna get sucked
Speaker 2: by it, man, It's like, oh, I'm going to go
Speaker 2: and do this exciting thing in Arizona and shoot for
Speaker 2: hot nups fuck so ah the name it's kind of bad.
Speaker 2: That's I was like hot and I'm going to fuck ag.
Speaker 2: That's hot? Right?
Speaker 1: Did you have any anxiety or fear? Had you already
Speaker 1: built up enough sexuality, like because this is a huge difference,
Speaker 1: right dancing on stage, even doing bachelor parties, this and
Speaker 1: that you're gonna let this guy fuck you now? Obviously
Speaker 1: there's the excitement there, But is anything in your head
Speaker 1: like what if this is not fun for me? What
Speaker 1: if I don't like the way I look in this?
Speaker 1: Go ahead? Sorry?
Speaker 2: I think I think that I was more excited. I
Speaker 2: think I was more excited. Look, I really really wanted
Speaker 2: to do it, and I think that I wanted to
Speaker 2: like be good at it, not like obviously maybe it's
Speaker 2: going to be good at something straight away. But I
Speaker 2: wanted to be good enough to have a good shot
Speaker 2: at it, you know, and I didn't want to just
Speaker 2: like go out there and fail and anything like that.
Speaker 2: So I think that was that was my primary thing.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to do good and I wanted to
Speaker 2: have I knew it was going to be fun because
Speaker 2: because I told you I'm a weirdo, I like putting
Speaker 2: myself in difficult situations and seeing if I sink called
Speaker 2: swim so and it was super fun. So but I
Speaker 2: think maybe I was a bit in my head. I
Speaker 2: think I had the idea of a porn girl, like oh,
Speaker 2: like perfect and like, you know, everything's perfect, and I
Speaker 2: was like, I know what I look like at the
Speaker 2: end of everything, and it's not like this. But then
Speaker 2: I think maybe it's because I haven't. I'm not like
Speaker 2: a really big porn watcher. When it comes out. When
Speaker 2: I'm going to masturbate, I'm not going to like be
Speaker 2: up on all of the new pawn sites and commies
Speaker 2: and stuff. I'm going to go on a memory or
Speaker 2: you know, maybe a hot time that I've got recorded
Speaker 2: on my phone from me and my partner want me
Speaker 2: and somebody hooks up with and when that was the case,
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think that for that reason, I was
Speaker 2: more like I didn't want to like do a bad
Speaker 2: job from looking too messy on camera. And I said
Speaker 2: that to the director and he was like, if you're
Speaker 2: in your head about that, then you're not gonna do
Speaker 2: a good you know, that's that's going to be a
Speaker 2: problem if like, oh, they're going to slap me and
Speaker 2: even Mark or am I like drooling and my makeup
Speaker 2: to getting messed up. So I think the fact that
Speaker 2: he said that to me, I was like, Okay, I
Speaker 2: think I'm getting this, Like so I just have to
Speaker 2: like be in the moment, Like if I'm in my head,
Speaker 2: then it's not going to be in the moment. So
Speaker 2: but then maybe maybe the first time actually I was
Speaker 2: too much like that because that scene was just really
Speaker 2: about it being my first time. So it's like I'm
Speaker 2: just there doing that, whereas now if I'm like being
Speaker 2: a stepmom or I'm being like an ambassador or free use,
Speaker 2: but I'm enjoying it and think there's lots more things
Speaker 2: to think about, like that's and so yeah, did.
Speaker 1: That answer the question very much?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 1: And you know, what you exemplified with that a lot
Speaker 1: of the professionalism that I also do a new girl
Speaker 1: show where I interview new girls coming in and I
Speaker 1: really try and filter out like, yes, this girl's hot,
Speaker 1: but she looks like or seems like maybe it's just
Speaker 1: in and out, or maybe she'll only be doing this
Speaker 1: for a little while, so I don't necessarily want a
Speaker 1: platform or if she decides she doesn't like this. What
Speaker 1: I love are the performers who come on, who are
Speaker 1: you know, getting into this whatever age they're getting into us,
Speaker 1: and they fully understand, like this is a business like
Speaker 1: your thing. There wasn't just like oh good, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get fucked and then get paid money and go home.
Speaker 1: It was I want to create good content because one,
Speaker 1: you have your own self pride with that, like I
Speaker 1: don't want to be put out there looking like a
Speaker 1: mess or like a shitty fuck or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: Two there's another piece where you go, this will lead
Speaker 1: to more work for me, then, so be as professional
Speaker 1: as you can, you know, step up, do that, and
Speaker 1: if you put it out there and people like it,
Speaker 1: there's plenty of people. There are plenty of people that
Speaker 1: are going to flock to find you as long as
Speaker 1: you show that professionalism. And I worry that some of
Speaker 1: the hottest girls in the industry that come in to
Speaker 1: this thing and kind of don't understand that, don't understand
Speaker 1: how much of a business it is. We talked earlier.
Speaker 1: It's not just you know, the outside perception of this
Speaker 1: industry is beautiful. Elise shows up on set, does her
Speaker 1: makeup in fifteen minutes. It's an hour long scene, so
Speaker 1: she has sex for about an hour and ten minutes,
Speaker 1: takes her forty thousand dollars pay check, and heads home
Speaker 1: for the day and never signs online. Again. How different
Speaker 1: is the industry than the outside perception of it.
Speaker 2: Definitely. I think the the showing up and living and
Speaker 2: getting a check pot is is lovely for somebody who
Speaker 2: you know, I've been a hustler in the dance and
Speaker 2: the strip, so it's like and the online as well.
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, you can put loads of effort
Speaker 2: into anything, whether it's social media or whether it's a video, costume,
Speaker 2: whatever it is. That and to me, it seems sometimes
Speaker 2: the stuff that I really really have put a lot
Speaker 2: of effort into creating, and it's and I'm like passionate
Speaker 2: about it, and I do that really now, and now
Speaker 2: I have to think, okay, if I'm doing something like
Speaker 2: that is a passion project and attach myself from attachment
Speaker 2: to the outcome of whether other people are going to
Speaker 2: like it, because I spent so long on my first
Speaker 2: ever it wasn't a really it was a TikTok was
Speaker 2: back in the day, and it was like so hard
Speaker 2: for me. I'm millennial. I was trying to do the
Speaker 2: apps and everything like this, and it literally like yeah,
Speaker 2: loads said it was really cool, but it didn't like
Speaker 2: blow up or anything like that. And then I had
Speaker 2: one that I literally took at the end of the
Speaker 2: end of a hurricane when I didn't have any makeup
Speaker 2: bar I literally was just like talking in front of
Speaker 2: my camera and that was the one that I literally
Speaker 2: you didn't even think that I looked good whatever, and
Speaker 2: there was no mental energy into it didn't So for me,
Speaker 2: I'm kind of like, well, yeah, I remove myself from
Speaker 2: attachment to that and it is nice to go in
Speaker 2: there and like I'm going there, I'm gonna get the
Speaker 2: script the night before the morning of, I'm going to
Speaker 2: my makeup of my hair is going to be done.
Speaker 2: How they want for the role like I. You know,
Speaker 2: that's all taken out of my my and what's it
Speaker 2: like my responsibility? So my responsibility is to show up.
Speaker 2: I have to make sure my test is in date,
Speaker 2: I have to be on time and you know, all
Speaker 2: the all the specifications on my call sheet, and then
Speaker 2: I just have to give my best and then as
Speaker 2: long as I do that, I'm going to get my check.
Speaker 2: Whereas in the strip club, you can literally you can
Speaker 2: show up. You can be Grandt's like a nice, nice,
Speaker 2: beautiful outfit, your hair, makeup will be absolutely perfect, and
Speaker 2: you can walk out there and for some reason you
Speaker 2: just walk up to the wrong friend every night, and
Speaker 2: you know your every every time that night, So then
Speaker 2: you know you don't end up in the champagne room.
Speaker 2: You know, everyone that's throwing money just happens to be
Speaker 2: getting more change. When it's your turn to render stay something.
Speaker 2: It can just happen like that. So the fact that
Speaker 2: it can still happen that I can go and go
Speaker 2: to a photo shoot and try and take good pictures
Speaker 2: and maybe I'm not in love with them, but I've
Speaker 2: still done what I came to do, and i still
Speaker 2: get check. So that's that's the side of it for me,
Speaker 2: the money side, the side, like the internet side, is
Speaker 2: probably what I struggle with more. But I that's another
Speaker 2: reason that I like. I'd say that it's a double
Speaker 2: edged sword of being older, because if I was, I
Speaker 2: know my girlfriends it's in their twenties, will arrive somewhere,
Speaker 2: We'll arrive somewhere and they have already done a real
Speaker 2: and they've posted it, and I'm like, the fuck. I
Speaker 2: know that you went like this for a second when
Speaker 2: we walked in, but what like will tab me? But
Speaker 2: apart from that, for me, I'm like, it takes a
Speaker 2: bit longer to do that kind of stuff, you know.
Speaker 1: And you know the dumb luck of that. Sometimes I
Speaker 1: used to do a comedy show as well, and my
Speaker 1: co host I begged them for a year, get on Instagram,
Speaker 1: Get on Instagram, Come on, this is how we promote
Speaker 1: our show. And he gets on Instagram and I would
Speaker 1: work editing till three four in the morning, perfect little
Speaker 1: clips of a comedy bit we did, and this and
Speaker 1: then and post them and they get one thousand views
Speaker 1: or fifteen hundred views. He takes a video of his
Speaker 1: local McDonald's, which somebody shot up the drive through board.
Speaker 1: First thing he ever posted six million views, and I
Speaker 1: just go, you know what, fucking why try? Why try? Sometimes?
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I think we have to try for us,
Speaker 2: Like if it's something that I want to make, I wrote,
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think that as I'm as I'm getting old,
Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, So my I like to say a
Speaker 2: lot of the time is like my skills like in
Speaker 2: other areas, So organization not my strong suit. Like being
Speaker 2: super like on top of everything like posting and everything
Speaker 2: like this not my strong suit. Having random ass ideas
Speaker 2: like hey, like I've got red hair, I could be
Speaker 2: April O'Neil and get fucked by the turtles. That's the
Speaker 2: kind of place my head goes. And I've got so
Speaker 2: much enthusiasm for making that a reality that that that's
Speaker 2: like I'll bring the energy. I'll bring the crazy ideas
Speaker 2: and the energy the other stuff I need help rips
Speaker 2: as I'm getting older and I'm realizing that's not on
Speaker 2: my strengths. Lie, I can very easily find the leveling
Speaker 2: of my pride to ask for help. So yeah, that's
Speaker 2: where I'm at with the Internet and how hard that
Speaker 2: that stuff is for me.
Speaker 1: I interviewed a girl who was actively stripping, and I
Speaker 1: came up with this idea based on something she said,
Speaker 1: and whatever has this been around forever? It's so funny.
Speaker 1: I'm like inventing the wheel and I'm gonna pitch it
Speaker 1: to you and you're gonna go, Yeah, they've had that
Speaker 1: forever though. The idea of a business card for a stripper. Right,
Speaker 1: sexy picture in the middle, your Venmo QR code on
Speaker 1: one side, your OnlyFans QR code on the other hand.
Speaker 1: It off the guys. Hey, oh, I would tip you,
Speaker 1: but I don't have any more money. We have Venmo
Speaker 1: right here. You know you tip me, I'll take it
Speaker 1: the back. Da das Do people do that? Do strippers
Speaker 1: do that? People just randomly on the street? Here's my
Speaker 1: only fans? Do strippers do that?
Speaker 2: So? What no? I got? So? I just got this
Speaker 2: so much. Say to you, Matt, there's two things I
Speaker 2: want to say about this. Can you hold one of
Speaker 2: them in your pocket.
Speaker 1: And I'll come paster it please.
Speaker 2: So I'm going to say, hold in your pocket, holding
Speaker 2: your pocket, temporary tattoo.
Speaker 1: Okay, temporary oh okay.
Speaker 2: And I'm going to tell you what my first business
Speaker 2: card when I started my Only Fans, so I was
Speaker 2: working in a strip club in Gainesville and I was like,
Speaker 2: you know, this is literally like I've been a dancer
Speaker 2: for a long time. At this point, I've traveled a lot,
Speaker 2: and I'm like at the time, like I said, I
Speaker 2: was a new mum, so I wasn't going to be
Speaker 2: travel dancing for a minute. But I kind of thought
Speaker 2: I hadn't hang out my heels forever, so I decided
Speaker 2: that I'd used my I've met my business cards, even
Speaker 2: though I didn't think only Fans was going to be
Speaker 2: a long term thing. I was going to make some
Speaker 2: business cards so I can handle out the strip club
Speaker 2: have my any fans on. But I was like, well,
Speaker 2: I don't want to order like her many Vista four
Speaker 2: hundred VistaPrint things. I'm not going to use them before
Speaker 2: I stopped doing only fan stuff, so I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I can use them for when I'm travel dancing in
Speaker 2: the future. So that's how I come up with the
Speaker 2: name of Lease London, because I've been a lease forever
Speaker 2: than a day as a dancer. And then sometimes if
Speaker 2: they don't have that name available at a club, I
Speaker 2: have to think of another name, and I actually liked
Speaker 2: used to like to be Analyse. But I think of
Speaker 2: it in my head like analase. I was thinking, and
Speaker 2: maybe that could be any poor name for me as well.
Speaker 2: Maybe I could analase analyse analise like anal I think
Speaker 2: maybe I could lose.
Speaker 1: There is an analyse, I believe. I think I'll yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: go ahead, but temporary.
Speaker 2: I haven't even got to that va. Okay, come on
Speaker 2: the ride with me, or we'll get there eventually. So
Speaker 2: that's how I come up with my business naim. But
Speaker 2: I would not hand out the cards literally actually to
Speaker 2: them like gold dust, because I didn't want them to
Speaker 2: be like handing them out to everyone that has a
Speaker 2: dance with me or anything like this and then see
Speaker 2: them scattered around. I mean, that's not that's not the
Speaker 2: level I was thinking of my kind of well I
Speaker 2: wanted to my business. I didn't want them to be like,
Speaker 2: you know, just like a was it for like a pizza,
Speaker 2: like a pizza.
Speaker 1: Like a flyer just just okay, thanks, thank you for that.
Speaker 2: Was like you've got one if you as like a
Speaker 2: valued client or if you if lots. So I was
Speaker 2: actually working in a truck stop strip club in Gainesville, Florida,
Speaker 2: because that's where I stayed with my family at the time,
Speaker 2: and it was the only place I didn't want to
Speaker 2: travel too much with the babies. So there's lots of
Speaker 2: truck that I was obviously what they're going to do,
Speaker 2: go back to their chuck and have some alone time.
Speaker 2: So I'd be like, okay, you know if we chatted
Speaker 2: about that, and then it kind of followed on that, like, oh,
Speaker 2: you could look me up on here. But if they
Speaker 2: didn't seem what they were going to take good enough
Speaker 2: care of my car, then this wasn't out of being
Speaker 2: stingy with the cuts. Even though I did say that
Speaker 2: I didn't want I didn't know I was going to
Speaker 2: do with four hundred of them. This is really so.
Speaker 2: My friend had been she'd been the model for our
Speaker 2: strip club when you know, years ago, and in and every
Speaker 2: Wednesday they had her picture on the flyer that was
Speaker 2: for like pound a drink NT or something, and we'd
Speaker 2: see them lining the street afterwards, and I was just like,
Speaker 2: I don't like my candy. Candy's lining the streets out there,
Speaker 2: and she's so pretty. I don't want to see candy
Speaker 2: space on the floor. So yeah, that was my idea,
Speaker 2: and it kind of worked with the business card I here,
Speaker 2: but then I did because it was Gainesville as well,
Speaker 2: and this takes me onto my temporary tattoo thing. There
Speaker 2: was loads of young kids, like the college kids because
Speaker 2: it's where UF is. So I was on the stage
Speaker 2: and the kids would say that sometimes, like I say, kids,
Speaker 2: you know, the college kids, college lads whatever, would say like, oh,
Speaker 2: I don't have any money, only have demo or only
Speaker 2: have cash app. And I realized people less like July
Speaker 2: stingy if they're going on THENMO, they're not going to
Speaker 2: literally give you like one dollar on VEMMO. I was like,
Speaker 2: it's a good hussle. So I got temporary tattoos of
Speaker 2: my QR COO that I had on my business card.
Speaker 2: But the only place on my body that's flat enough
Speaker 2: to make the QR work was like right here, so
Speaker 2: I'd like put it right there. But then it didn't
Speaker 2: really last like it would it would crinker. It wasn't.
Speaker 2: It wasn't a perfect solution, but I loved the idea
Speaker 2: of like having one on my butt and then like.
Speaker 1: Like that's where I thought you were going to say,
Speaker 1: like on your ass.
Speaker 2: Like that was my idea. But I'm glad that I
Speaker 2: got the temporary tattoo first before I went and got
Speaker 2: a QR COO like task it on my butt and
Speaker 2: it was too bendy.
Speaker 1: Your workless son, You get a guy touching you, You're like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, God, I'm just flattening it out. Hold on, sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to snap it. Give music. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: let's get into some of the content you put it
Speaker 1: in your Twitter profile, Superby. When was the first time
Speaker 1: you realized like you were really in the girls? Was
Speaker 1: that younger in life?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: This is always a dumb question. Is it fifty to fifty?
Speaker 1: Because I think if I dropped dead, my wife is
Speaker 1: like eighty twenty women eighty twenty percent man like my
Speaker 1: wife is like I would probably just gon find a
Speaker 1: girlfriend if you drop dead, Like, I'm not dealing with
Speaker 1: other dudes or whatever. What do you? I know, it's
Speaker 1: tough to say, but what do you think you are? Split?
Speaker 2: Honestly, I'd say that it's very I'd probably agree with
Speaker 2: you in what you're saying is that, well, I'm also
Speaker 2: projecting a little bit, but your your wife is with
Speaker 2: you obviously, she's married to you, she's happy with you.
Speaker 2: That twenty percent is twenty percent is all you sure?
Speaker 2: So basically there's no you know, if you were taking
Speaker 2: out the picture, then she's like, well, I've got women,
Speaker 2: you know, that's where my passion lie other than Matt.
Speaker 2: So with me, I think I probably used. I've never
Speaker 2: had a like a relationship with a girl. I've had
Speaker 2: like a girlfriend like that. I have like girlfriends, but
Speaker 2: I've not had like a one on one relationship where
Speaker 2: it's like there might go to for everything, and you know,
Speaker 2: I think, honestly, I think that would be like that
Speaker 2: absolutely amazing. What I've heard from some of my my
Speaker 2: lis being girlfriends it's hard as well. I can imagine that.
Speaker 2: But when I've been, you know, in a whatever relationship,
Speaker 2: i'll being single and being bisexual, then yeah, I'll like
Speaker 2: be fifty to fifty. It's kind of a fifty to
Speaker 2: fifty thick. But then with my boyfriend that I'm with now,
Speaker 2: he's actually like, and this sounds it sounds like it's
Speaker 2: it is, it's not. It's actually a really bit confident
Speaker 2: to him. He's actually made me like basically like a
Speaker 2: lesbian that likes one guy and likes getting sucked on camera,
Speaker 2: so it's like he so perfectly like takes care of
Speaker 2: my male side of things needed like I don't. And yeah,
Speaker 2: between him and porn and then the lifestyle mad and
Speaker 2: him there swingers. Let's how we met. So that's what
Speaker 2: we still do sometimes between that and then all the
Speaker 2: gorgeous women that I come across that are fucking sexy
Speaker 2: and I get to do things with on camera, and
Speaker 2: then we want to probably do things off camera then
Speaker 2: like literally, I'm like, I'm good, Like I've got a
Speaker 2: whole buffet selection like on Yeah, So I'd say probably
Speaker 2: the eighty twenty thing is probably I don't know why,
Speaker 2: I just I'll take your numbers, like probably, okay, eighty
Speaker 2: percent of the people that I'm checking out is women,
Speaker 2: and and yeah makes the things I want to go
Speaker 2: on and get amongst.
Speaker 1: The next thing you list a little less or a
Speaker 1: little more blunt, if you will anal enthusiast. Now, does
Speaker 1: enthusiasts mean we are an expert at this? Is it
Speaker 1: just mean we really like I understand what the name
Speaker 1: enthusiast means, but how are we using it here? Are
Speaker 1: you like a pro? Like girls could come to you
Speaker 1: and be like, hey, I need this da da da,
Speaker 1: or are you working your way up to become that
Speaker 1: type of performer?
Speaker 2: So there is I've been having anal sense before some
Speaker 2: of the girls who's shooting porn was born.
Speaker 1: I might have too. I had a Catholic girlfriend in
Speaker 1: high school, so I might have been there with you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'd say that the enthusiasm is from like
Speaker 2: the last twenty three years of loving anal and then
Speaker 2: that like definitely, I'd say that I used I used
Speaker 2: to have. One of the things was anal size queen.
Speaker 2: But I'm like, I don't know if I don't really
Speaker 2: like to like claim something, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, ant sex, Like I don't remember to
Speaker 2: claim even though I'm like, oh that it's massive and
Speaker 2: it's been in my ass and I was asking for
Speaker 2: it hard that to me, Like I would say that,
Speaker 2: but I don't want to be like putting myself. I'm
Speaker 2: a six queen eight like, but yeah, I do love
Speaker 2: dig bis in my as.
Speaker 1: All those first letters may have been mixed up on that,
Speaker 1: but I understood what you were saying, well those things.
Speaker 2: But so that's why I would say that but I
Speaker 2: do actually love to. So actually i'd say that I
Speaker 2: would want to be an ambassador for women having better aim.
Speaker 2: So many women are scared of it, and it's actually, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's like white people say, like, oh, what's your favorite position,
Speaker 2: I'm like, spoons anal. Spoons anal is my favorite position period.
Speaker 1: So so for those new performers coming up who might
Speaker 1: be listening to this, give me. Can you give me
Speaker 1: two or three tips for a performer, the female performer
Speaker 1: to be able to perform anal properly, properly quote unquote like, look,
Speaker 1: is there any is it? Is it clearing out properly?
Speaker 1: Is it the guy like you have to insist you
Speaker 1: go slow or whatever it is? Is it loose? Like?
Speaker 1: What are the key things that new performers should now?
Speaker 2: So I don't really want to say, like I don't
Speaker 2: like really giving advice, I could sham my experience, Like
Speaker 2: the things that have been important to me was first
Speaker 2: of all, doing like some aim training. So I did
Speaker 2: training back when I did my only fans, I had
Speaker 2: a fan that gave me a fuck machine like that
Speaker 2: one of them, and then I had somebody request a
Speaker 2: custom with it with the biggest fielder, which was big.
Speaker 2: It was like a like a BBC inlow and then
Speaker 2: on high for five minutes. And I was like, I
Speaker 2: don't know if I'm going to be able to like
Speaker 2: definitely succeed in the specifications that they gave, but I'll
Speaker 2: give it a go. And this is I'm excited about
Speaker 2: the challenge. So I did a whole week of ANAL training.
Speaker 2: I did like a video every day, and I'd say
Speaker 2: one of the big things about ANAL training is masturbate
Speaker 2: for us so that you feel kind of like relaxed,
Speaker 2: and I think, yeah, trying to like trying to make
Speaker 2: it it feels good like ANAL when you're relaxed and everything,
Speaker 2: it feels good. So I'd say, like in like focusing
Speaker 2: on the enjoyment, I'd say, anything, focus on the enjoyment
Speaker 2: and the pleasure and that will get bigger. If you
Speaker 2: focus on the things that you're uncomfortablet and the fear,
Speaker 2: then the fear is going to bigger. It's very it's
Speaker 2: very spiritual. It's very spiritual. But yeah, so I'd say
Speaker 2: that is really important. Then the prep is like definitely, definitely,
Speaker 2: definitely so important because I think that a lot of
Speaker 2: us are scared in the backup our head like oh no,
Speaker 2: it's going to be messy. Like I love anal, I
Speaker 2: don't like mess So that's for me as I've got
Speaker 2: like on even even if it's not on camera, if
Speaker 2: it's just me and my wofriend, going to have like
Speaker 2: it go crazy for anal, like all even fast and
Speaker 2: prep before that, just because I love anal and I
Speaker 2: don't say that's my other part. And then yeah, doing
Speaker 2: the anal training like building building up until you can
Speaker 2: start a different sight different like a larger size, and
Speaker 2: then the other thing. Oh, and then i'd say the
Speaker 2: positioning and the strip you kind of mentioned like stretching
Speaker 2: like going slow at first and stuff, and I think
Speaker 2: different people have different necessity levels for that, but I
Speaker 2: would say, Mike, I love the spoons, like the spoon's
Speaker 2: position the guy behind and the girl in front. And
Speaker 2: I'd say that if you start that with this isn't
Speaker 2: necessarily for like being on film, but if you start
Speaker 2: like that, because you're like kind of like lay prone
Speaker 2: on your side, you're usually relaxed. I think that the
Speaker 2: doggie style anal position where you're kind of like like yes,
Speaker 2: it is like you're you're in an active position, so
Speaker 2: you're tenth in certain place. Oh, I'm so clumsy and
Speaker 2: you're not like so that would be my thing is
Speaker 2: is that get super comfortable and then slowly, you know,
Speaker 2: slowly and yeah, I think that's that's not like groundbreaking
Speaker 2: advice or anything, but that's the things that's to me
Speaker 2: is important. And then and then if you can as
Speaker 2: you go up bigger in size. The thing for me
Speaker 2: was having an any orgasm. I didn't have any orgasm
Speaker 2: till later in life, after my after my divorce, my
Speaker 2: my ex and I can't believe we even got married.
Speaker 2: He didn't like am I didn't like anger.
Speaker 1: Dis Wait, now, what's the gentleman's name that he married
Speaker 1: after you?
Speaker 2: That's funny.
Speaker 1: I like that. Uh so let me ask you this
Speaker 1: too then all right. So, by the way, folks, if
Speaker 1: you want to check that out, you know exactly where
Speaker 1: you can find a lease here at Elise London. Also,
Speaker 1: make sure you follow her on social media. Here's what
Speaker 1: I always say. Look, it's Monday, you're fucking broke from
Speaker 1: the weekend. The bare minimum thing you could do is
Speaker 1: follow these folks on social media. At least I'm going
Speaker 1: to give out the Twitter as well. I normally try
Speaker 1: not to hit them all because whatever, but I love
Speaker 1: you and I need people to see you and move
Speaker 1: over to you. On Twitter. It's at Elease London xxx.
Speaker 1: Elise's e l I s e. But make sure you
Speaker 1: head on over to the of at Elease London. But
Speaker 1: I have another question fansly now again YouTube. I'm not
Speaker 1: throwing out fucking domains here, so whatever, Fansly, not Fansily,
Speaker 1: I apologize, loyal fans, loyal fans, you have a completely
Speaker 1: different name, and I want to know does the content
Speaker 1: differ on that one? So the name over there if
Speaker 1: people want to check it out, is again a little
Speaker 1: more blunt BBC Goddess Elease links to everything episode description.
Speaker 1: At least, what am I going to get if I
Speaker 1: head on over to that one versus something like your of.
Speaker 2: Whatever you get on there? You're lucky. You're lucky to
Speaker 2: even have my attention on that. You're lucky that. Basically,
Speaker 2: it's for the BBC enthusiasts, the cups, simps, losers. I
Speaker 2: love I love them. I'm not saying this in any
Speaker 2: kind of leg like. Literally, these are my people that
Speaker 2: I can't cater to both at the same time. The
Speaker 2: people who's like, oh, at least and I've seen her
Speaker 2: on I know I've seen her team skee. Let me
Speaker 2: see what she does, you know, behind the scenes kind
Speaker 2: of thing. That's one. Oh my goodness, what happened? Oh
Speaker 2: I know what that is. That's my ring like.
Speaker 1: What happened?
Speaker 2: My ring light timber? Oh and in my very my
Speaker 2: very christmasy, very first, they're very relaxing front ran.
Speaker 1: Well, look, I mean I wasn't going to argue about
Speaker 1: that camera shot we were just on, so we'll keep
Speaker 1: that ring light shot in. And it did it again?
Speaker 1: What's wrong? Is it dead?
Speaker 2: I think I meant to Probably the laptop is going
Speaker 2: to die as well. This is I did promise you
Speaker 2: that I'm very clumsy and disorganized. You know, the laptop's fine.
Speaker 2: I think if I turn up the clip brand as
Speaker 2: we see, hmmm, that's what we got, can you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can still see you. You know what, we've
Speaker 1: we've had a good time with this. Well, while she
Speaker 1: runs away, I'm gonna plug. Make sure you head on
Speaker 1: over at least London again. I'll pound you with these
Speaker 1: as she would enjoy being pounded. Make sure you follow
Speaker 1: these folks at the bare minimum, okay, and then payday
Speaker 1: rolls around, It's Friday, your kids like, hey, I have
Speaker 1: to get braces. You go, look, you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: eat liquid food for the next week because Daddy needs
Speaker 1: to sign it much better.
Speaker 2: A character for kids, for them to just learn to
Speaker 2: love themselves as they are when they're of age and
Speaker 2: they get into porn and they can get the veniers.
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not saying that all kids should get
Speaker 2: into porn.
Speaker 1: That sound no, not at all. So so the loyal
Speaker 1: fans is that that's more of a dumb personality then.
Speaker 2: So with the fetish stuff like I like when I
Speaker 2: have people approached me on my other platforms and say like, oh,
Speaker 2: do you have an x y Z video? Then if
Speaker 2: I just said x y Z that's my British has
Speaker 2: come out. I've got a translation for you. It means
Speaker 2: x y Z like kind of all of the above.
Speaker 2: So yeah, if they kind of ask me about like
Speaker 2: I have you got such and such like wedgying, like
Speaker 2: I love I love all, I just love fun stuff
Speaker 2: that came out. If they I'm not going to advertise
Speaker 2: that on my only fans, I'm not going to push
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff, unncessbody asked me. But then on
Speaker 2: the I just seem to get a lot of people,
Speaker 2: probably because my boyfriend's black. I have a lot of
Speaker 2: BBC content things like that that people will be like, oh,
Speaker 2: you know, just coming at me with cut stuff or
Speaker 2: coming up with me with like the submissive feet stuff.
Speaker 2: And I was kind of used to that from being
Speaker 2: in the strip club because we get lots of the
Speaker 2: you know, wanting to be called a loser and wanting
Speaker 2: to wash it feet and stuff like that, and I
Speaker 2: always found it really fun but and kind of like
Speaker 2: fun in like a sexy fun like it's kind of
Speaker 2: like funny and sexy and kind of like, yeah, it's
Speaker 2: like a good time to have to have a customer
Speaker 2: like that. And then but then it's kind of like
Speaker 2: I like being invented about if they like being they
Speaker 2: like being like belittled, Oh, I'm going to think of
Speaker 2: like some funny shit to be little like Oh. I
Speaker 2: had somebody on only Fans that they were like, oh,
Speaker 2: I would never get a woman like you, And I'm
Speaker 2: like no, literally, like you wouldn't even be fit to
Speaker 2: drink my bath water. I was like, And then I
Speaker 2: sent a picture of some water with like some scummed
Speaker 2: soap in it, and I sent a picture and sent
Speaker 2: it as a closed message. They paid, like however much
Speaker 2: they paid to open the message. I was like, that's
Speaker 2: my bathwater. That's as close as you're ever going to
Speaker 2: get to my bath water. And they were like, oh
Speaker 2: my god God. I was like, and then I took
Speaker 2: a video of me pooring that the water down the
Speaker 2: same and I was like, actually, no, that's the closest
Speaker 2: you the closest you're ever going to get to a
Speaker 2: woman's body is the bathwater that goes down the drain
Speaker 2: into the sewer and you're down in the sewer that
Speaker 2: you're lucky to get the sewer bath water from my
Speaker 2: goddess like me. So that's the kind of bunshit that
Speaker 2: I do. But if I start doing that too much
Speaker 2: on my regular pages, people are gonna tune out. I
Speaker 2: think they're gonna like, you.
Speaker 1: Know, you definitely would be branded as more like like
Speaker 1: that seems like not to use the word dominant again,
Speaker 1: But when branding occurs, your beautiful British redhead over here
Speaker 1: and then also the dom and like maybe you could
Speaker 1: sneak it in a little bit, but then I think
Speaker 1: that becomes the dominant brand in the end, Like you're
Speaker 1: just this, Is that natural to your personality? Can you be?
Speaker 1: I feel like as I'm just like, get me behind
Speaker 1: the wheel of a car and I'll be the nastiest
Speaker 1: person in the world as people drive like shit around me.
Speaker 1: But I don't think I could be mean to Like
Speaker 1: if girls were reaching out to me like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I'm so turned on by you, please be mean to me,
Speaker 1: and'll be like, no, I don't know if I can
Speaker 1: do that. Is it natural to you or no? Not
Speaker 1: to be mean.
Speaker 2: My dog is about to bark, I can tell, so
Speaker 2: it's not to be mean. But I like to be likely.
Speaker 2: I like to be patronizing in the way that they're
Speaker 2: kind of like, because I really do, especially when it's
Speaker 2: like cuts.
Speaker 1: I have had so many animals on this show. By
Speaker 1: the way, my only connection to you is I have
Speaker 1: a British short hair cat. I'll show you a picture,
Speaker 1: don't worry.
Speaker 2: Have you ever heard of a Manx cat?
Speaker 1: Ah, I've heard of them. I don't know what they are.
Speaker 2: It's like a British short hair that doesn't have a tail.
Speaker 2: Oh whish short hat. But yeah, so my thing is
Speaker 2: is that, like, so I alway get a lot of
Speaker 2: step mom, mommy, stepmom, that kind of thing. So I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm like the yeah, I'm a BBC goddess and that
Speaker 2: I take lots of hello.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, let's say really, that's David. He is a
Speaker 1: one eyed British short haired cat. We got him from
Speaker 1: pet Smart for one hundred and fifty dollars. He is
Speaker 1: the cutest, sweetest little boy and it is the only
Speaker 1: connection I have to the UK except for my Irish heritage.
Speaker 2: What's his name?
Speaker 1: That David as in Beckham Tenant name all the other
Speaker 1: British Davids, Yes, a borough that one. I did mention
Speaker 1: that one to my wife and she goes, who's that?
Speaker 1: I gotta never mind? I heard, yes, absolutely, Uh. I
Speaker 1: apologize the dog go ahead being mean.
Speaker 2: So I don't like to you mean, but I will
Speaker 2: be like patronizing, like like the they're losers and they
Speaker 2: they come to me because they need mummy's advice or
Speaker 2: they they want the god they just need They just
Speaker 2: want to like glean a little bit excitement off their
Speaker 2: goddess who gets fucked with the BBC that they love
Speaker 2: to watch I mean, and yeah, they want to tell
Speaker 2: me that, you know, God has tell me how timing
Speaker 2: my cop is, how I'm not even cock. It's so small,
Speaker 2: it's like a like a like a it's like a clipic.
Speaker 2: And so I like to kind of be like, well,
Speaker 2: of course you're pathetic, and like I'm a very gracious
Speaker 2: goddess and you can like, don't piss me off because
Speaker 2: I don't like to have to be mean to you.
Speaker 2: The same as with my step sons. I don't like
Speaker 2: to have to be mean to them. But they need
Speaker 2: to realize that they're fucking stupid and you know, don't
Speaker 2: come to Mummy with stupid questions like I'm fucking busy,
Speaker 2: I'm fucking the real men right now, you know, Like
Speaker 2: I know that you want Mummy's attention. But that's the
Speaker 2: kind of way that I come at it because that's
Speaker 2: natural to me, because I like, I have a lot
Speaker 2: of love together, I have a lot of tendonists to get.
Speaker 2: But also you piss me off, and you're going to
Speaker 2: get the sarcasm and the rough side of my tongue, and.
Speaker 1: I threw the bullshit. I like that. I like it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's great. I have two last questions for
Speaker 1: you here. The first one I ask all performers and
Speaker 1: I get such surprising answers on what it is, and
Speaker 1: we've kind of come to a consensus. I wonder where
Speaker 1: you are with it? What should be the age? And
Speaker 1: again this is an adult industry positive show and everything
Speaker 1: like that, it's just the thought question, what should be
Speaker 1: the age when females can begin performing in adult work.
Speaker 1: Like there's the anecdotal things where you go, sixteen year
Speaker 1: old girl gets kicked out of her house, she waits
Speaker 1: a couple of years, she's jumping from couch to couch.
Speaker 1: Now she's able to start some kind of a career
Speaker 1: on only fans. Then you also think of the other
Speaker 1: side of it, some eighteen year old girl jumping into
Speaker 1: situations that are dangerous or whatever, and it's her choice.
Speaker 1: Do you have any thought on that?
Speaker 2: I do. So. I started when I was twenty five,
Speaker 2: and I was I mature at twenty five in my
Speaker 2: insex work, and I'm glad. I like as much as
Speaker 2: I would have loved to have been eighteen and getting
Speaker 2: to be, you know, a stepdaughter and porter stuff like
Speaker 2: that like that looks so fucking fun. Like literally the
Speaker 2: girls they have such great costumes and things to her
Speaker 2: and they're having bare I love that for them. I
Speaker 2: wouldn't want to stop that because as well, like eighteen
Speaker 2: is the legal age, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 2: I think that what I gained from starting at twenty
Speaker 2: five is I'd already seen the real world. I'd already
Speaker 2: gained some knowledge of myself so that when I went in,
Speaker 2: I knew who I was, Because when I was eighteen,
Speaker 2: I did not at all personally. I didn't know I
Speaker 2: was immature at twenty five. I'm probably still immature at forty.
Speaker 2: But I would say, and I when I lived in Australia,
Speaker 2: I actually worked in a licensed premises there. Oh no,
Speaker 2: it actually was in a strip club. Work in a club.
Speaker 2: I had to have my serving license to work in
Speaker 2: the strip club, and so there was going to look
Speaker 2: at it's just like a I think they have the
Speaker 2: same thing in America. I just haven't ever done it.
Speaker 2: It's like basically like a like a short course where
Speaker 2: you have to study about alcohol, serving responsibly, things to
Speaker 2: look out for, blah blah blah. It's a short course,
Speaker 2: probably with some self reflection in it. As well, and
Speaker 2: then you do does whatever. I would say that not
Speaker 2: super super short, but I'd say maybe like a six
Speaker 2: week course or something that if you wanted to get
Speaker 2: into adult work under the age of twenty one, then
Speaker 2: you have to go do that course or under the
Speaker 2: age of any kind of arbitrary number that people would
Speaker 2: decide on, and then you go do that course, whether
Speaker 2: it's six weeks or I don't think you doesn't need
Speaker 2: to be like a college course. I don't need like
Speaker 2: a degree or anything like that. But I think that
Speaker 2: to cover, you know, just the basics of everything, and
Speaker 2: that the basics of like, oh, this is, this is
Speaker 2: kink stuff.
Speaker 1: This is you know, this is these are these are
Speaker 1: how boundaries are sad, this is I mean, do do
Speaker 1: the business side of it too, you know, the social
Speaker 1: media side. I think that would be great. The so
Speaker 1: some of the go ahead.
Speaker 2: So I think that would I think that would help,
Speaker 2: because I don't think it would. I don't think I
Speaker 2: think it would help in two ways. I think it
Speaker 2: would help people inform themselves, but I think most peop
Speaker 2: would still go on and try it because they've already
Speaker 2: invested enough to do the course. But I think that
Speaker 2: they would go at it with a different mindset from
Speaker 2: having done the course, and it might people who literally
Speaker 2: haven't even considered the implications. They might Some people might
Speaker 2: have some like red what do you call like red flags
Speaker 2: come up during the course that they actually decided never
Speaker 2: to go. You know, Oh my god, this is the
Speaker 2: internet forever. Oh my god. I hadn't thought about the
Speaker 2: further implications because when you're eighteen, your brain isn't even
Speaker 2: was it, they say, the court.
Speaker 1: The something something in your brain.
Speaker 2: This isn't developed something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe so it. I've interviewed a lot of
Speaker 1: big mainstream performers, some girls who got in at eighteen,
Speaker 1: and all of them pretty much, a lot of them,
Speaker 1: many of them we understand the other side of it.
Speaker 1: A lot of them are like twenty one, twenty one,
Speaker 1: twenty one, twenty one. Here's kind of a consensus we
Speaker 1: came to that we think might work. What if from
Speaker 1: eighteen to twenty one, because I agree there's no reason
Speaker 1: you should be able to go fight in a war
Speaker 1: at eighteen but not make porn if that's what you
Speaker 1: choose to do from eighteen to twenty one, only the
Speaker 1: personal sites, the loyal fan the only fans, and you
Speaker 1: can only do solo stuff, can't publish any of this stuff,
Speaker 1: build up your social media platform, see what you like
Speaker 1: in terms of kink and niche and whatever, and then
Speaker 1: at twenty one, if you want to go shoot for
Speaker 1: Team Skied Brass or whatever it is, then you can
Speaker 1: begin doing that. Again, it's tough, because you're right, it's
Speaker 1: about maturity there. I've met eighteen year olds who blow
Speaker 1: me the fuck out of the water in terms of maturity,
Speaker 1: and I've met fifty year olds who don't know what
Speaker 1: the fuck they're doing. So it's so tough. It's just
Speaker 1: you hear. And again I'm not saying that's necessarily my view,
Speaker 1: it's just kind of the consensus we've come to that
Speaker 1: might work in that sense.
Speaker 2: I can see that like the soft launch through OnlyFans
Speaker 2: and solo is I'd say, I know, I still think
Speaker 2: that you should be allowed to do. I think that
Speaker 2: you should still be allowed to do Go boy boy,
Speaker 2: go whatever with your partner, go go whatever it is
Speaker 2: that you want to do that you're doing in your bedroom.
Speaker 2: I think that I don't know, maybe it's my maybe
Speaker 2: it's from living in America for the last ten years.
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, it's freedom of speech, it's freedom
Speaker 2: of sexiness. I don't know, but I think so. There
Speaker 2: was something recently that I had I shot in Vegas
Speaker 2: for a VR company for the first time, and they
Speaker 2: had a what do they call it, a talent liaison
Speaker 2: or a model liaison, and I think that would be
Speaker 2: maybe something that could be used. And there's if you
Speaker 2: are doing a boy girl scene between eighteen and twenty one,
Speaker 2: you could you'd have to have like a person editor.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think that's a bad idea at all.
Speaker 1: It's you know, I again, that's a personal preference for everything.
Speaker 1: Like some of the girls who have said twenty one.
Speaker 1: One girl said twenty five. I think she started at eighteen.
Speaker 1: So it's like it's tough. It's tough because you want
Speaker 1: to protect people, but you also don't want to limit them, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I also just think of all of the
Speaker 2: like and I'm not saying this in like a any
Speaker 2: kind of way other than I think when you start
Speaker 2: to limit because it's creative tea and like, yeah, if
Speaker 2: they're enough been not coming up with like scientific inventions
Speaker 2: or anything like that. But just think of all of
Speaker 2: the magic and all of like, it's a worthwhile thing
Speaker 2: to do. It's creating something that's worthwhile. It's creating entertainment,
Speaker 2: and we're having our own lives at the same time,
Speaker 2: we're growing as people through it. So I think there
Speaker 2: just being like, no eighteen year old should be eighteen
Speaker 2: to twenty or eighteen twenty, even though I really think
Speaker 2: that if I cared about one of my friends and
Speaker 2: I'd be like, I really hope that you would wait
Speaker 2: until you just have a better idea of yourself and
Speaker 2: a better idea of the industry, blah blah blah. But
Speaker 2: I yeah, just any kind of like big sweeping kind
Speaker 2: of like limitation I think would limit everything like that
Speaker 2: would be there would be no eighteen year old pawn.
Speaker 2: It would be a sad day.
Speaker 1: It would be a sad day for all of us.
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Speaker 1: At least, thank you so much. You you were so insightful.
Speaker 1: I love your dog. I don't care that it barked.
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Speaker 2: That was like, I don't mind your dog box. I
Speaker 2: don't even know how it's happening.
Speaker 1: This, This is two people above thirty seven who just
Speaker 1: don't know what they're doing. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Up and it's connected and it's linked up. Is there
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Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: There we go. Let's just wrap it up with that.
Speaker 1: At least, London, thank you so much for coming on
Speaker 1: with me tonight.