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are you today, I'm very well, thank you and fantastic
good good. Let me start off with a kind of
a silly or an odd question, but the entire scope
of all that you do, what do you consider your
job title to be? I'm ado entertaina Okay, okay, all right,
I've heard adult entertainer, I've heard content creator, I've heard
social media manager from some of these girls where it's
just like the sex is this portion of it, and
the rest of it is social media and all kinds
of other bullshit.
Speaker 2: Right, So for me, I generally say so I'll say
adat entertainer because that's like an umbrella term for me.
But then like when I'm doing the porn, it's like
a it's definitely like an adult actress. When I'm doing
photo shoots and stuff like that. It's more like like
adult model or something like that. Like I see people
say that, especially for like fetish things like that, that I
was the adult model, like fetish models things like that.
But then my reason that I say adam entertainer is
because I started as a dancer. I was an exotic dancer,
adult entertainer for years. That was my career. That was
like my life career before I started this only like
a year or two ago.
Speaker 1: You jumped you already. You are so smart, You're already
jumping down the interview list. Next question, how did you
initially get into adult entertainment in whatever forum it was?
When did you go from you know, whatever job or
whatever you were working before that and you just went,
fuck it, I can't do this anymore. I have to
I have to expand out, I have to do something more.
Speaker 2: Fuck this shit, I'll be a stripper. So I was
twenty five years young. I was living in the UK,
and I was actually I was a hospitality manager in
hotels and like Hian hotels, with like pairing the wines
and spirits and stuff with like really gourmet meals, and
I really really enjoyed that job. But when I had
a breakup when I was in my early twenties. I
had like I was engaged and I had my whole
life panned ahead of me. He was a chef. I
was a restaurant manager kind of thing. So that was
and then literally just before my twenty fifth birthday, we
broke up and I had a mortgage ship pay that
was mine and his and you know all of that
kind of stuff. I was like, fuck, I need more money.
I should get a bar job after I finished my
hotel job. And back then I drink a bit, so
I had a few drinks already went on. I remember
this was literally the funniest thing. I went on my
laptop and I was like bar jobs in you know,
my town was new Ki in the UK, and it
came up with stripping jobs on Google. Who had like
strip clubs, different things. That's a good idea, click and look,
wrote it down and then the next day I was like, hmmm,
still seems like a good idea. So actually that's how
I started dancing when I was twenty five, and I
still carried on with the It was basically it was
meant to be like a little side job just to
like get me through a few months of you know,
making the making ends meet, and then I'd work at
a new plan and move forward. And literally a few
months later, I was like, wow, I actually quit my
stressful as how a hospitality job where I do so
many hours, you know, sixty hours a week sometimes, and
I can just have fun, go to the strip club,
have fun with my girlfriends, you know, and and I
can travel. I can do whatever I want so and
I can pay my bills, and I can travel and
videoal sort of thing. So that's what initially stick me
over from the civilian vanilla world to the cd underworld
stripping and taking your clothes off for money and turning
people on, which is why I can sider myself and
adult saying it. Because whether I'm dancing, which I don't
do as much, well I barely do you anymore. Whether
I'm chatting to somebody and all they want me to
do is talk about how what a loser they are.
I love that. That is actually, even though I'm fully
dressed and I'm maybe having fun laughing like really just
you know, shooting the shit. Really, that's actually it's what
I don't sayment because they're finding it, you know.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Like so I I have a question. I mean,
all right, you you were drinking one night, you got
the idea, Okay, be a stripper. Google tells you be
a stripper. You wake up the next day and you go, oh,
I still kind of want to be a stripper. I
have had many of those thoughts, but it's mostly when
I'm drinking and go rob a band, just do it,
just fucking rob a bank. But I wake up the
next day and I go, no, that's a terrible idea.
Did it fit your personality at all to want to
be a strip Okay?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: Like I'm not a bank robber. So when I wake
up and go, you thought about robbing a bank last night,
I think, well, that was stupid. I'm not a bank robber.
Were you? You know, I never know what the appropriate
word is here. Were you, even though you were in
a relationship, hyper sexual or did you? Were you so
comfortable in your body you were like taking clothes off
won't be a big deal.
Speaker 2: That part, definitely, they're taking the clothes up part. Being
European and like I'd already been to nudest beaches and
grew up around people being topless on the beach and
stuff and I when I was younger, I used to
be a sumwash plan I hated townline, so I'd always
be topless in a thong on the beach, even before
I was a stripper, So I think I probably the
first on my home was first was also for public,
because I'd wear it on the beach, But no, I
think that. Actually I was approached when I was I
was only seventeen in a club and somebody came up
to me was like, hey, how do you want to
make X amount of money in so many minutes being
a dancer, And I was like, hmm, that sounds good
when I was making you know, a lot lot less
as a waitress when as a teenager and my boyfriend
was having none of it. My boyfriend at the time
was like, no, you're not being a pold answer because
it's kind of like, in fact, I'm talking about like
the two thou like the early two thousands, and it
was like very much like a CD dirty like kind
of idea then and then I think, now it's a
lot more in the mainstream.
Speaker 1: So sex well, so I saw, okay, I won't throw
numbers out there because that's that's rude to do. But
I saw your bio on one thing and I saw
your age and I went, she looks twenty eight? What
the fuck is this? Like you just said there early
two thousands and to someone just looking at a picture
of you going early two times? What was she four
years old? Like? Thinking about gain club? Do you talk
about your age? Do you ever mention your age? Or no?
I won't. I won't ask you to call it out
only because you got into this, And they don't mean
to say later in life in an insulting way at all. Whatsoever,
later in life you decided to make the move into porn?
Was that just such a confidence from all the stuff
you had done prior to that, with the dancing and
everything else. Were you ready to take that next step?
Or did someone encourage you? Did you have another mortgage
payment due and you were drinking one night and you
just decided, Hey, you know what, let's google a little
bit more.
Speaker 2: That would be a very interesting Google search. I think
that would leave me to be like, I want to
be a porn stuff but no, So basically I would
say I've always liked to challenge myself. There's a phrase
that says, when was the last time you did something
for the first time, and if it's been too long
since I did something for the first time, I got itchy.
I get bored super easily, like even in I out
of ADHD, like like I kind of identify a lot
of that, but I kind of use as an excuse,
like they're with me, Like I got some ADHD. It's
like it makes me very enthusiastic about things, makes me
like super have lots of ideas and stuff, but also
it means I kind of get itchy feet and not
just doing stuff. So when I was I think I
was like first went into hospitality, and I think I
love talking to people. I love people, I love like
interacting with people, and I love putting myself in kind
of uncomfortable situations that I'm a extroverts. So when I
was like seventeen, I was like started as a restaurant
manager and stuff like that. So I was like in
my early yeah, my teens, in my early twenties, I
was like people thought I was older than I was
because I was wearing a suit, I was in a hotel.
I was like, you know, welcome to the such and
such blah blah blah. That basically I liked talking shit
and being in a character role. So the natural progression
from that being a dancer. I was like, well, yeah,
like I can go and speak in front of people,
and I can you know, I can put myself out
there to welcome people in an entertainment way, in the
hospitality sense. Let's take that a little bit makes me
a little bit more comfortable. Let's be naked as we
do that. Well, let's be grinding on. Somebody would do
that or something like that, you know. And then I
actually didn't do very much stage at first, like the
dancing stage, and then through my career I started being
moranted that the dancing on the stage, doing more like
kind of performances bachelor parties where you have to kind
of like have lots of people watching, usual whipping people
and stuff like that. So that was like I remember
the first time I went to the strip club was
obviously the second time the first time I did a
bachelor party, and I had like a group of people
around me, and I'm there like whipping and riding in
like a like a horse or a dam here or
something not riding riding.
Speaker 1: Not that I was going to say, this is going
to take an odd turn, but I like it.
Speaker 2: No, continue, go ahead, just you know, just like kind
of putting on a show. That's what I think. I like.
I think whether it's being a restaurant manager in a steakhouse,
whether it's you know, welcoming people to a hotel, or
whether it was like having a bachelor group that's like, oh,
you know what, you guys, celebrating that kind of thing.
I liked that, but then getting to do it with
pretty makeup and half dressed and spangly things with my girlfriends,
and back then I was like, you know, the champagne
room definitely had champagne in it, so we were always
having fun shots and you know, it was a great
way to spend my twenties in traveling and stuff like that.
So I think that that was the next step from
that was like, oh, well I can do all that
in the UK. What about if I get on a
flight to Canada and go to a club I've never
been to before. What if I, you know, look up
on the internet and find a club in Ibiza in
Spain and go and do you know, some time out
there and just pack a bag and go take my heels,
take my click clack heels with me in dis guy.
So each time has been like a progression of wanting
to challenge myself, wanting to make myself uncomfortable and do
something that's kind of exciting and new. So from I
say only fans was the one that wasn't really that
only fans was. I was a bit of dancer. I
lived in a kind of a semi rural area in
Florida as a new mom I had. I don't really
talk about family stuff too much. I do like to
say that I sometimes I'm being a milf and sometimes
I'm being the m and so, you know, being I
was definitely at that point in time, I didn't even
know I was a milth yet. I thought I was
just a strippo who had had a kid. And then
OnlyFans And twenty twenty in the.
Speaker 1: What's it called pandemic.
Speaker 2: When everyone, yeah, when people didn't want to do anything
and we would have to stay aside for a bit,
well Florida, we didn't have to say is after that long.
But in the meantime, Schipper's very entrepreneurial spirit, I guess,
and me and lots of my girlfriends said that open
up only fans and that was more like the hustle
will will survive. The hustle will adapt and thrive and survive.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you the jump from uh being
in the UK working at clubs and then traveling to
different places. This is I'm sure you love Florida. Everyone
loves Florida to some extent. But I'm sure being in America,
I'm sure you do understand too the perception that Florida
can get at times. Perhaps right, did the how do
the clubs differ from the UK to something like a
Florida club? Now, I assume you didn't go to a
hole in the wall junkie farmer Florida club. Maybe I
don't know, tell me about it, but how did they compare?
Speaker 2: So I'd have to say definitely that that there's many,
many different types of clubs, many places like I've worked.
I don't want to say all over the world, because
I haven't worked in the Antarctica or anything like that,
but you know, Australia, North America and Europe. I've got
a good idea and I'd say that, honestly, the best
place is to work that if I had, if I
have one of my girlfriends's in their twenties now, like
I want to travel dance. You know, I've got this
is my chance. I'm gonna didn't take it while I'm
young and free. Blah blah blah. I'd say go to Australia.
If they're an American, go to Australia. If they're Australia,
go to America or anywhere else, go to Australia America
because I like being somewhere that I'm a little bit different.
Like I did love dancing in you know, my hometown
kind of thing because it was a bachelor party town,
so it was what that's that's kind of the the
summer season was bachelor parties and then the ones you
could get very slow. We have more like military and
things like that. So for me that was fun. But
I like going to Australiahere it's like, oh I've got
an accent. I'll go out to Canada and it's like,
oh my god. You know, that was a very very
The club in Canada was actually my worst experience. That
was like a hole in the wall. I can't see
the worst experience because I still enjoyed it. I think
I root for the underdog, Matt.
Speaker 1: You know where you know where, I think you'd really
clean up have you ever heard anything? And I don't know,
maybe it's maybe you got to go there with a
shotgun too. I've always heard the strip clubs in Alaska.
Those guys come off the oil rigs with just thousands
of thousands of dollars. I think a beautiful British redhead
showing up like all the other girls would just go
home for the night. Have you ever danced in the lane?
Speaker 2: I haven't danced in Alaska. I was actually so when
I came out here, I was in Key West, and
then I went from Key West, I was in Gainesville
for a minute, and then from and I was in Gainesville,
I was travel out to New Orleans. And then after
New Orleans, I was like, right, I had this was
the ex husband. I was like, right, where are we
going to go next? And we had a few places.
We had Colorado in the MICUs. Colorado is really good
for dancing as well. Alaska's really good for dancing, and
I've heard about that, and San Diego or New Orleans.
And because we were thinking of starting a family, we
didn't choose New Orleans as much as that's like I think,
like soul wise, Florida and New Orleans is kind of
where I'm at. But you know, we decided to go
for the San Diego option and the Alaska reason. I
actually looked at the temperatures.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, well I didn't it was gonna be fun.
I just said, they think you'd get paid.
Speaker 2: I think that as I'm getting older and more, and
I will actually say my I don't know if I.
Speaker 1: Say how old, you didn't and then I didn't follow up.
Speaker 2: It's literally like on the internet, my real age.
Speaker 1: I know, I found it.
Speaker 2: I don't want to say he is like legit, it
doesn't lies. I'm like, yeah, so I have no forty
or thirty this shit that blew.
Speaker 1: Now I'm thirty eight, but I look like this. That's
what I'm saying. The difference is, and that's a shame
that people age differently. I should age as gracefully and
beautifully as you. No, No, I appreciate the lie. What
Uh Yeah, I think I think. I mean, you are phenomenal.
I would have said, you know, twenty eight, twenty nine
just from some of the pictures.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you. People say that, And it's funny because
I think a lot of it is like your vibe
as well. Like obviously I don't look haggard, but I
could probably if I was like grumpy all the time
and I was like not happy with life and I
was fucking the same forty year old guy every night,
well not not even probably not fucking the same fortiero
old guy every night. Because I've heard that, you know,
I'm forty, I should be like hating my husband. I
have a husband. That's probably why I hate him. But yeah,
I think that, Yeah, being young, like being around young people,
being young at heart, and what's the sex, and yeah,
not doing the same thing. I'd probably have gone crazy
a long time ago. For I was doing nine to five,
Like even before I said sex, Well, I couldn't do
to five. I need someone that's speaking to me kind
of right.
Speaker 1: I see. There's not a ton of money in free
porn star interviews, so I still have my day job.
But this doing this signing off my day, being able
to come on interview interesting people, create content, make things
that other people that help get them through their day.
Now my stuff gets them through their day in a
different way than yours does. There is more like a
wrap up at the end of the night, or maybe
a lunch break in the bathroom. Mine is more like
they're listening and going I wish I could be that
loser and just talk to the hottest women in the world.
Speaker 2: Um, do you know what I think? If you find
enjoying it, then yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, So let me ask you then, do you find
joy in making and producing porn content? So we've stepped
out of the striper role. Tell me how you decide
at that time or who made you your first offer
where you go, hey, I'm going to go do my
first boy girl scene maybe and were you still with
the X or the person at the time. Was there
any discussion with that, like I'm going to go fuck
by a guy or were you guys? Kind of like
lifestyle ly a little bit so.
Speaker 2: Kind of both of those things. So I actually when
I started my Only Fans, I was still married and
we had the discussion like okay, like once this is
out there, then it's not going to be I had
the kind of easy decision. It's slightly easier. I'd already
been answer for a long time. I knew there was
already probably lots of naked pictures of me and you know,
bachelor party, unflattering videos of me and stuff like that
out there. Like random out there, not like oh it's
on the internet, but it's out there and months is
that that you can't get it off? And I found
out actually there's a striper gram picture of me on
a British stripper grand website. I've been trying to get down,
but like a long no, no, no, no, no, no, long time.
Why even before I have my boods, I'm not sure?
Speaker 1: Now now wait real quickly in posure, why are you
trying to get it down? You should just have them
water market with your only fans across the bottom of it.
Speaker 2: Really that you literally like business brain? This is I wish.
I wish these were.
Speaker 1: Brains mine too, but you know they're not.
Speaker 2: Maybe, but I think that they did me well for
the industry. I'm mean anyway, I think your brain would
have been surplus to requirements. Maybe sometimes that's why I
get told just like keep my mouth closed and do
my job, or no, open your mouth and do your job.
Speaker 1: That's what I was going to say. Yeah, I bet
they don't want it closed all the time. Maybe at
the beginning, keep it open a bit.
Speaker 2: That time, I was sorry when I said my only
fans me and the ex husband did have the discussion.
I actually did because I had access to so many
hot girls being a strip up, I did lots of
girl girl and solo and that was kind of where
we were at. We weren't really much into that life.
While we weren't at all in the lifestyle as much
as I was kind of inquisitive about it, that wasn't
really where our relationship was at. So that went on
and on, and then after I had my divorce, then
that's when I had more kind of like more connection
with people who were more open minded, more like minded,
and I met my what's now my boyfriend, who was
my kind of like he was used to like we
sort of lifestyle boyfriend and content partner. So that's what
we primarily. We met through the life. I met through
stc swingers dating and somehow some have found love that
way and then but we we went together together when
I had my first pro shoe and my first mainstream
fun so that was actually I did color. He was
there when I was coloring with the pan star called
Peter Fitzwan. He was like, oh, you know, you might
you know my age, you might be interested in getting
you booked for And I was like, I said, oh,
my god, and I was excited. Is go to my
then content partner, lifestyle boyfriend, and he was like yeah, yeah,
So we were both excited about it and and back
then because it was in the lifestyle, it's kind of like, well,
that's very normal. It wasn't like I'm gonna get sucked
by it, man, It's like, oh, I'm going to go
and do this exciting thing in Arizona and shoot for
hot nups fuck so ah the name it's kind of bad.
That's I was like hot and I'm going to fuck ag.
That's hot? Right?
Speaker 1: Did you have any anxiety or fear? Had you already
built up enough sexuality, like because this is a huge difference,
right dancing on stage, even doing bachelor parties, this and
that you're gonna let this guy fuck you now? Obviously
there's the excitement there, But is anything in your head
like what if this is not fun for me? What
if I don't like the way I look in this?
Go ahead? Sorry?
Speaker 2: I think I think that I was more excited. I
think I was more excited. Look, I really really wanted
to do it, and I think that I wanted to
like be good at it, not like obviously maybe it's
going to be good at something straight away. But I
wanted to be good enough to have a good shot
at it, you know, and I didn't want to just
like go out there and fail and anything like that.
So I think that was that was my primary thing.
I just wanted to do good and I wanted to
have I knew it was going to be fun because
because I told you I'm a weirdo, I like putting
myself in difficult situations and seeing if I sink called
swim so and it was super fun. So but I
think maybe I was a bit in my head. I
think I had the idea of a porn girl, like oh,
like perfect and like, you know, everything's perfect, and I
was like, I know what I look like at the
end of everything, and it's not like this. But then
I think maybe it's because I haven't. I'm not like
a really big porn watcher. When it comes out. When
I'm going to masturbate, I'm not going to like be
up on all of the new pawn sites and commies
and stuff. I'm going to go on a memory or
you know, maybe a hot time that I've got recorded
on my phone from me and my partner want me
and somebody hooks up with and when that was the case,
So yeah, I think that for that reason, I was
more like I didn't want to like do a bad
job from looking too messy on camera. And I said
that to the director and he was like, if you're
in your head about that, then you're not gonna do
a good you know, that's that's going to be a
problem if like, oh, they're going to slap me and
even Mark or am I like drooling and my makeup
to getting messed up. So I think the fact that
he said that to me, I was like, Okay, I
think I'm getting this, Like so I just have to
like be in the moment, Like if I'm in my head,
then it's not going to be in the moment. So
but then maybe maybe the first time actually I was
too much like that because that scene was just really
about it being my first time. So it's like I'm
just there doing that, whereas now if I'm like being
a stepmom or I'm being like an ambassador or free use,
but I'm enjoying it and think there's lots more things
to think about, like that's and so yeah, did.
Speaker 1: That answer the question very much?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 1: And you know, what you exemplified with that a lot
of the professionalism that I also do a new girl
show where I interview new girls coming in and I
really try and filter out like, yes, this girl's hot,
but she looks like or seems like maybe it's just
in and out, or maybe she'll only be doing this
for a little while, so I don't necessarily want a
platform or if she decides she doesn't like this. What
I love are the performers who come on, who are
you know, getting into this whatever age they're getting into us,
and they fully understand, like this is a business like
your thing. There wasn't just like oh good, I'm gonna
get fucked and then get paid money and go home.
It was I want to create good content because one,
you have your own self pride with that, like I
don't want to be put out there looking like a
mess or like a shitty fuck or whatever it is.
Two there's another piece where you go, this will lead
to more work for me, then, so be as professional
as you can, you know, step up, do that, and
if you put it out there and people like it,
there's plenty of people. There are plenty of people that
are going to flock to find you as long as
you show that professionalism. And I worry that some of
the hottest girls in the industry that come in to
this thing and kind of don't understand that, don't understand
how much of a business it is. We talked earlier.
It's not just you know, the outside perception of this
industry is beautiful. Elise shows up on set, does her
makeup in fifteen minutes. It's an hour long scene, so
she has sex for about an hour and ten minutes,
takes her forty thousand dollars pay check, and heads home
for the day and never signs online. Again. How different
is the industry than the outside perception of it.
Speaker 2: Definitely. I think the the showing up and living and
getting a check pot is is lovely for somebody who
you know, I've been a hustler in the dance and
the strip, so it's like and the online as well.
It's like, you know, you can put loads of effort
into anything, whether it's social media or whether it's a video, costume,
whatever it is. That and to me, it seems sometimes
the stuff that I really really have put a lot
of effort into creating, and it's and I'm like passionate
about it, and I do that really now, and now
I have to think, okay, if I'm doing something like
that is a passion project and attach myself from attachment
to the outcome of whether other people are going to
like it, because I spent so long on my first
ever it wasn't a really it was a TikTok was
back in the day, and it was like so hard
for me. I'm millennial. I was trying to do the
apps and everything like this, and it literally like yeah,
loads said it was really cool, but it didn't like
blow up or anything like that. And then I had
one that I literally took at the end of the
end of a hurricane when I didn't have any makeup
bar I literally was just like talking in front of
my camera and that was the one that I literally
you didn't even think that I looked good whatever, and
there was no mental energy into it didn't So for me,
I'm kind of like, well, yeah, I remove myself from
attachment to that and it is nice to go in
there and like I'm going there, I'm gonna get the
script the night before the morning of, I'm going to
my makeup of my hair is going to be done.
How they want for the role like I. You know,
that's all taken out of my my and what's it
like my responsibility? So my responsibility is to show up.
I have to make sure my test is in date,
I have to be on time and you know, all
the all the specifications on my call sheet, and then
I just have to give my best and then as
long as I do that, I'm going to get my check.
Whereas in the strip club, you can literally you can
show up. You can be Grandt's like a nice, nice,
beautiful outfit, your hair, makeup will be absolutely perfect, and
you can walk out there and for some reason you
just walk up to the wrong friend every night, and
you know your every every time that night, So then
you know you don't end up in the champagne room.
You know, everyone that's throwing money just happens to be
getting more change. When it's your turn to render stay something.
It can just happen like that. So the fact that
it can still happen that I can go and go
to a photo shoot and try and take good pictures
and maybe I'm not in love with them, but I've
still done what I came to do, and i still
get check. So that's that's the side of it for me,
the money side, the side, like the internet side, is
probably what I struggle with more. But I that's another
reason that I like. I'd say that it's a double
edged sword of being older, because if I was, I
know my girlfriends it's in their twenties, will arrive somewhere,
We'll arrive somewhere and they have already done a real
and they've posted it, and I'm like, the fuck. I
know that you went like this for a second when
we walked in, but what like will tab me? But
apart from that, for me, I'm like, it takes a
bit longer to do that kind of stuff, you know.
Speaker 1: And you know the dumb luck of that. Sometimes I
used to do a comedy show as well, and my
co host I begged them for a year, get on Instagram,
Get on Instagram, Come on, this is how we promote
our show. And he gets on Instagram and I would
work editing till three four in the morning, perfect little
clips of a comedy bit we did, and this and
then and post them and they get one thousand views
or fifteen hundred views. He takes a video of his
local McDonald's, which somebody shot up the drive through board.
First thing he ever posted six million views, and I
just go, you know what, fucking why try? Why try? Sometimes?
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I think we have to try for us,
Like if it's something that I want to make, I wrote,
But yeah, I think that as I'm as I'm getting old,
I'm like, Okay, So my I like to say a
lot of the time is like my skills like in
other areas, So organization not my strong suit. Like being
super like on top of everything like posting and everything
like this not my strong suit. Having random ass ideas
like hey, like I've got red hair, I could be
April O'Neil and get fucked by the turtles. That's the
kind of place my head goes. And I've got so
much enthusiasm for making that a reality that that that's
like I'll bring the energy. I'll bring the crazy ideas
and the energy the other stuff I need help rips
as I'm getting older and I'm realizing that's not on
my strengths. Lie, I can very easily find the leveling
of my pride to ask for help. So yeah, that's
where I'm at with the Internet and how hard that
that stuff is for me.
Speaker 1: I interviewed a girl who was actively stripping, and I
came up with this idea based on something she said,
and whatever has this been around forever? It's so funny.
I'm like inventing the wheel and I'm gonna pitch it
to you and you're gonna go, Yeah, they've had that
forever though. The idea of a business card for a stripper. Right,
sexy picture in the middle, your Venmo QR code on
one side, your OnlyFans QR code on the other hand.
It off the guys. Hey, oh, I would tip you,
but I don't have any more money. We have Venmo
right here. You know you tip me, I'll take it
the back. Da das Do people do that? Do strippers
do that? People just randomly on the street? Here's my
only fans? Do strippers do that?
Speaker 2: So? What no? I got? So? I just got this
so much. Say to you, Matt, there's two things I
want to say about this. Can you hold one of
them in your pocket.
Speaker 1: And I'll come paster it please.
Speaker 2: So I'm going to say, hold in your pocket, holding
your pocket, temporary tattoo.
Speaker 1: Okay, temporary oh okay.
Speaker 2: And I'm going to tell you what my first business
card when I started my Only Fans, so I was
working in a strip club in Gainesville and I was like,
you know, this is literally like I've been a dancer
for a long time. At this point, I've traveled a lot,
and I'm like at the time, like I said, I
was a new mum, so I wasn't going to be
travel dancing for a minute. But I kind of thought
I hadn't hang out my heels forever, so I decided
that I'd used my I've met my business cards, even
though I didn't think only Fans was going to be
a long term thing. I was going to make some
business cards so I can handle out the strip club
have my any fans on. But I was like, well,
I don't want to order like her many Vista four
hundred VistaPrint things. I'm not going to use them before
I stopped doing only fan stuff, so I was like, oh,
I can use them for when I'm travel dancing in
the future. So that's how I come up with the
name of Lease London, because I've been a lease forever
than a day as a dancer. And then sometimes if
they don't have that name available at a club, I
have to think of another name, and I actually liked
used to like to be Analyse. But I think of
it in my head like analase. I was thinking, and
maybe that could be any poor name for me as well.
Maybe I could analase analyse analise like anal I think
maybe I could lose.
Speaker 1: There is an analyse, I believe. I think I'll yeah, yeah, yeah,
go ahead, but temporary.
Speaker 2: I haven't even got to that va. Okay, come on
the ride with me, or we'll get there eventually. So
that's how I come up with my business naim. But
I would not hand out the cards literally actually to
them like gold dust, because I didn't want them to
be like handing them out to everyone that has a
dance with me or anything like this and then see
them scattered around. I mean, that's not that's not the
level I was thinking of my kind of well I
wanted to my business. I didn't want them to be like,
you know, just like a was it for like a pizza,
like a pizza.
Speaker 1: Like a flyer just just okay, thanks, thank you for that.
Speaker 2: Was like you've got one if you as like a
valued client or if you if lots. So I was
actually working in a truck stop strip club in Gainesville, Florida,
because that's where I stayed with my family at the time,
and it was the only place I didn't want to
travel too much with the babies. So there's lots of
truck that I was obviously what they're going to do,
go back to their chuck and have some alone time.
So I'd be like, okay, you know if we chatted
about that, and then it kind of followed on that, like, oh,
you could look me up on here. But if they
didn't seem what they were going to take good enough
care of my car, then this wasn't out of being
stingy with the cuts. Even though I did say that
I didn't want I didn't know I was going to
do with four hundred of them. This is really so.
My friend had been she'd been the model for our
strip club when you know, years ago, and in and every
Wednesday they had her picture on the flyer that was
for like pound a drink NT or something, and we'd
see them lining the street afterwards, and I was just like,
I don't like my candy. Candy's lining the streets out there,
and she's so pretty. I don't want to see candy
space on the floor. So yeah, that was my idea,
and it kind of worked with the business card I here,
but then I did because it was Gainesville as well,
and this takes me onto my temporary tattoo thing. There
was loads of young kids, like the college kids because
it's where UF is. So I was on the stage
and the kids would say that sometimes, like I say, kids,
you know, the college kids, college lads whatever, would say like, oh,
I don't have any money, only have demo or only
have cash app. And I realized people less like July
stingy if they're going on THENMO, they're not going to
literally give you like one dollar on VEMMO. I was like,
it's a good hussle. So I got temporary tattoos of
my QR COO that I had on my business card.
But the only place on my body that's flat enough
to make the QR work was like right here, so
I'd like put it right there. But then it didn't
really last like it would it would crinker. It wasn't.
It wasn't a perfect solution, but I loved the idea
of like having one on my butt and then like.
Speaker 1: Like that's where I thought you were going to say,
like on your ass.
Speaker 2: Like that was my idea. But I'm glad that I
got the temporary tattoo first before I went and got
a QR COO like task it on my butt and
it was too bendy.
Speaker 1: Your workless son, You get a guy touching you, You're like,
oh my god, God, I'm just flattening it out. Hold on, sorry,
I'm just trying to snap it. Give music. Yeah, so
let's get into some of the content you put it
in your Twitter profile, Superby. When was the first time
you realized like you were really in the girls? Was
that younger in life?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: This is always a dumb question. Is it fifty to fifty?
Because I think if I dropped dead, my wife is
like eighty twenty women eighty twenty percent man like my
wife is like I would probably just gon find a
girlfriend if you drop dead, Like, I'm not dealing with
other dudes or whatever. What do you? I know, it's
tough to say, but what do you think you are? Split?
Speaker 2: Honestly, I'd say that it's very I'd probably agree with
you in what you're saying is that, well, I'm also
projecting a little bit, but your your wife is with
you obviously, she's married to you, she's happy with you.
That twenty percent is twenty percent is all you sure?
So basically there's no you know, if you were taking
out the picture, then she's like, well, I've got women,
you know, that's where my passion lie other than Matt.
So with me, I think I probably used. I've never
had a like a relationship with a girl. I've had
like a girlfriend like that. I have like girlfriends, but
I've not had like a one on one relationship where
it's like there might go to for everything, and you know,
I think, honestly, I think that would be like that
absolutely amazing. What I've heard from some of my my
lis being girlfriends it's hard as well. I can imagine that.
But when I've been, you know, in a whatever relationship,
i'll being single and being bisexual, then yeah, I'll like
be fifty to fifty. It's kind of a fifty to
fifty thick. But then with my boyfriend that I'm with now,
he's actually like, and this sounds it sounds like it's
it is, it's not. It's actually a really bit confident
to him. He's actually made me like basically like a
lesbian that likes one guy and likes getting sucked on camera,
so it's like he so perfectly like takes care of
my male side of things needed like I don't. And yeah,
between him and porn and then the lifestyle mad and
him there swingers. Let's how we met. So that's what
we still do sometimes between that and then all the
gorgeous women that I come across that are fucking sexy
and I get to do things with on camera, and
then we want to probably do things off camera then
like literally, I'm like, I'm good, Like I've got a
whole buffet selection like on Yeah, So I'd say probably
the eighty twenty thing is probably I don't know why,
I just I'll take your numbers, like probably, okay, eighty
percent of the people that I'm checking out is women,
and and yeah makes the things I want to go
on and get amongst.
Speaker 1: The next thing you list a little less or a
little more blunt, if you will anal enthusiast. Now, does
enthusiasts mean we are an expert at this? Is it
just mean we really like I understand what the name
enthusiast means, but how are we using it here? Are
you like a pro? Like girls could come to you
and be like, hey, I need this da da da,
or are you working your way up to become that
type of performer?
Speaker 2: So there is I've been having anal sense before some
of the girls who's shooting porn was born.
Speaker 1: I might have too. I had a Catholic girlfriend in
high school, so I might have been there with you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'd say that the enthusiasm is from like
the last twenty three years of loving anal and then
that like definitely, I'd say that I used I used
to have. One of the things was anal size queen.
But I'm like, I don't know if I don't really
like to like claim something, do you know what I mean?
I'm like, oh, ant sex, Like I don't remember to
claim even though I'm like, oh that it's massive and
it's been in my ass and I was asking for
it hard that to me, Like I would say that,
but I don't want to be like putting myself. I'm
a six queen eight like, but yeah, I do love
dig bis in my as.
Speaker 1: All those first letters may have been mixed up on that,
but I understood what you were saying, well those things.
Speaker 2: But so that's why I would say that but I
do actually love to. So actually i'd say that I
would want to be an ambassador for women having better aim.
So many women are scared of it, and it's actually, yeah,
it's like white people say, like, oh, what's your favorite position,
I'm like, spoons anal. Spoons anal is my favorite position period.
Speaker 1: So so for those new performers coming up who might
be listening to this, give me. Can you give me
two or three tips for a performer, the female performer
to be able to perform anal properly, properly quote unquote like, look,
is there any is it? Is it clearing out properly?
Is it the guy like you have to insist you
go slow or whatever it is? Is it loose? Like?
What are the key things that new performers should now?
Speaker 2: So I don't really want to say, like I don't
like really giving advice, I could sham my experience, Like
the things that have been important to me was first
of all, doing like some aim training. So I did
training back when I did my only fans, I had
a fan that gave me a fuck machine like that
one of them, and then I had somebody request a
custom with it with the biggest fielder, which was big.
It was like a like a BBC inlow and then
on high for five minutes. And I was like, I
don't know if I'm going to be able to like
definitely succeed in the specifications that they gave, but I'll
give it a go. And this is I'm excited about
the challenge. So I did a whole week of ANAL training.
I did like a video every day, and I'd say
one of the big things about ANAL training is masturbate
for us so that you feel kind of like relaxed,
and I think, yeah, trying to like trying to make
it it feels good like ANAL when you're relaxed and everything,
it feels good. So I'd say, like in like focusing
on the enjoyment, I'd say, anything, focus on the enjoyment
and the pleasure and that will get bigger. If you
focus on the things that you're uncomfortablet and the fear,
then the fear is going to bigger. It's very it's
very spiritual. It's very spiritual. But yeah, so I'd say
that is really important. Then the prep is like definitely, definitely,
definitely so important because I think that a lot of
us are scared in the backup our head like oh no,
it's going to be messy. Like I love anal, I
don't like mess So that's for me as I've got
like on even even if it's not on camera, if
it's just me and my wofriend, going to have like
it go crazy for anal, like all even fast and
prep before that, just because I love anal and I
don't say that's my other part. And then yeah, doing
the anal training like building building up until you can
start a different sight different like a larger size, and
then the other thing. Oh, and then i'd say the
positioning and the strip you kind of mentioned like stretching
like going slow at first and stuff, and I think
different people have different necessity levels for that, but I
would say, Mike, I love the spoons, like the spoon's
position the guy behind and the girl in front. And
I'd say that if you start that with this isn't
necessarily for like being on film, but if you start
like that, because you're like kind of like lay prone
on your side, you're usually relaxed. I think that the
doggie style anal position where you're kind of like like yes,
it is like you're you're in an active position, so
you're tenth in certain place. Oh, I'm so clumsy and
you're not like so that would be my thing is
is that get super comfortable and then slowly, you know,
slowly and yeah, I think that's that's not like groundbreaking
advice or anything, but that's the things that's to me
is important. And then and then if you can as
you go up bigger in size. The thing for me
was having an any orgasm. I didn't have any orgasm
till later in life, after my after my divorce, my
my ex and I can't believe we even got married.
He didn't like am I didn't like anger.
Speaker 1: Dis Wait, now, what's the gentleman's name that he married
after you?
Speaker 2: That's funny.
Speaker 1: I like that. Uh so let me ask you this
too then all right. So, by the way, folks, if
you want to check that out, you know exactly where
you can find a lease here at Elise London. Also,
make sure you follow her on social media. Here's what
I always say. Look, it's Monday, you're fucking broke from
the weekend. The bare minimum thing you could do is
follow these folks on social media. At least I'm going
to give out the Twitter as well. I normally try
not to hit them all because whatever, but I love
you and I need people to see you and move
over to you. On Twitter. It's at Elease London xxx.
Elise's e l I s e. But make sure you
head on over to the of at Elease London. But
I have another question fansly now again YouTube. I'm not
throwing out fucking domains here, so whatever, Fansly, not Fansily,
I apologize, loyal fans, loyal fans, you have a completely
different name, and I want to know does the content
differ on that one? So the name over there if
people want to check it out, is again a little
more blunt BBC Goddess Elease links to everything episode description.
At least, what am I going to get if I
head on over to that one versus something like your of.
Speaker 2: Whatever you get on there? You're lucky. You're lucky to
even have my attention on that. You're lucky that. Basically,
it's for the BBC enthusiasts, the cups, simps, losers. I
love I love them. I'm not saying this in any
kind of leg like. Literally, these are my people that
I can't cater to both at the same time. The
people who's like, oh, at least and I've seen her
on I know I've seen her team skee. Let me
see what she does, you know, behind the scenes kind
of thing. That's one. Oh my goodness, what happened? Oh
I know what that is. That's my ring like.
Speaker 1: What happened?
Speaker 2: My ring light timber? Oh and in my very my
very christmasy, very first, they're very relaxing front ran.
Speaker 1: Well, look, I mean I wasn't going to argue about
that camera shot we were just on, so we'll keep
that ring light shot in. And it did it again?
What's wrong? Is it dead?
Speaker 2: I think I meant to Probably the laptop is going
to die as well. This is I did promise you
that I'm very clumsy and disorganized. You know, the laptop's fine.
I think if I turn up the clip brand as
we see, hmmm, that's what we got, can you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can still see you. You know what, we've
we've had a good time with this. Well, while she
runs away, I'm gonna plug. Make sure you head on
over at least London again. I'll pound you with these
as she would enjoy being pounded. Make sure you follow
these folks at the bare minimum, okay, and then payday
rolls around, It's Friday, your kids like, hey, I have
to get braces. You go, look, you're gonna have to
eat liquid food for the next week because Daddy needs
to sign it much better.
Speaker 2: A character for kids, for them to just learn to
love themselves as they are when they're of age and
they get into porn and they can get the veniers.
I'm not I'm not saying that all kids should get
into porn.
Speaker 1: That sound no, not at all. So so the loyal
fans is that that's more of a dumb personality then.
Speaker 2: So with the fetish stuff like I like when I
have people approached me on my other platforms and say like, oh,
do you have an x y Z video? Then if
I just said x y Z that's my British has
come out. I've got a translation for you. It means
x y Z like kind of all of the above.
So yeah, if they kind of ask me about like
I have you got such and such like wedgying, like
I love I love all, I just love fun stuff
that came out. If they I'm not going to advertise
that on my only fans, I'm not going to push
that kind of stuff, unncessbody asked me. But then on
the I just seem to get a lot of people,
probably because my boyfriend's black. I have a lot of
BBC content things like that that people will be like, oh,
you know, just coming at me with cut stuff or
coming up with me with like the submissive feet stuff.
And I was kind of used to that from being
in the strip club because we get lots of the
you know, wanting to be called a loser and wanting
to wash it feet and stuff like that, and I
always found it really fun but and kind of like
fun in like a sexy fun like it's kind of
like funny and sexy and kind of like, yeah, it's
like a good time to have to have a customer
like that. And then but then it's kind of like
I like being invented about if they like being they
like being like belittled, Oh, I'm going to think of
like some funny shit to be little like Oh. I
had somebody on only Fans that they were like, oh,
I would never get a woman like you, And I'm
like no, literally, like you wouldn't even be fit to
drink my bath water. I was like, And then I
sent a picture of some water with like some scummed
soap in it, and I sent a picture and sent
it as a closed message. They paid, like however much
they paid to open the message. I was like, that's
my bathwater. That's as close as you're ever going to
get to my bath water. And they were like, oh
my god God. I was like, and then I took
a video of me pooring that the water down the
same and I was like, actually, no, that's the closest
you the closest you're ever going to get to a
woman's body is the bathwater that goes down the drain
into the sewer and you're down in the sewer that
you're lucky to get the sewer bath water from my
goddess like me. So that's the kind of bunshit that
I do. But if I start doing that too much
on my regular pages, people are gonna tune out. I
think they're gonna like, you.
Speaker 1: Know, you definitely would be branded as more like like
that seems like not to use the word dominant again,
But when branding occurs, your beautiful British redhead over here
and then also the dom and like maybe you could
sneak it in a little bit, but then I think
that becomes the dominant brand in the end, Like you're
just this, Is that natural to your personality? Can you be?
I feel like as I'm just like, get me behind
the wheel of a car and I'll be the nastiest
person in the world as people drive like shit around me.
But I don't think I could be mean to Like
if girls were reaching out to me like, oh my god,
I'm so turned on by you, please be mean to me,
and'll be like, no, I don't know if I can
do that. Is it natural to you or no? Not
to be mean.
Speaker 2: My dog is about to bark, I can tell, so
it's not to be mean. But I like to be likely.
I like to be patronizing in the way that they're
kind of like, because I really do, especially when it's
like cuts.
Speaker 1: I have had so many animals on this show. By
the way, my only connection to you is I have
a British short hair cat. I'll show you a picture,
don't worry.
Speaker 2: Have you ever heard of a Manx cat?
Speaker 1: Ah, I've heard of them. I don't know what they are.
Speaker 2: It's like a British short hair that doesn't have a tail.
Oh whish short hat. But yeah, so my thing is
is that, like, so I alway get a lot of
step mom, mommy, stepmom, that kind of thing. So I'm like,
I'm like the yeah, I'm a BBC goddess and that
I take lots of hello.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, let's say really, that's David. He is a
one eyed British short haired cat. We got him from
pet Smart for one hundred and fifty dollars. He is
the cutest, sweetest little boy and it is the only
connection I have to the UK except for my Irish heritage.
Speaker 2: What's his name?
Speaker 1: That David as in Beckham Tenant name all the other
British Davids, Yes, a borough that one. I did mention
that one to my wife and she goes, who's that?
I gotta never mind? I heard, yes, absolutely, Uh. I
apologize the dog go ahead being mean.
Speaker 2: So I don't like to you mean, but I will
be like patronizing, like like the they're losers and they
they come to me because they need mummy's advice or
they they want the god they just need They just
want to like glean a little bit excitement off their
goddess who gets fucked with the BBC that they love
to watch I mean, and yeah, they want to tell
me that, you know, God has tell me how timing
my cop is, how I'm not even cock. It's so small,
it's like a like a like a it's like a clipic.
And so I like to kind of be like, well,
of course you're pathetic, and like I'm a very gracious
goddess and you can like, don't piss me off because
I don't like to have to be mean to you.
The same as with my step sons. I don't like
to have to be mean to them. But they need
to realize that they're fucking stupid and you know, don't
come to Mummy with stupid questions like I'm fucking busy,
I'm fucking the real men right now, you know, Like
I know that you want Mummy's attention. But that's the
kind of way that I come at it because that's
natural to me, because I like, I have a lot
of love together, I have a lot of tendonists to get.
But also you piss me off, and you're going to
get the sarcasm and the rough side of my tongue, and.
Speaker 1: I threw the bullshit. I like that. I like it. Yeah,
I think it's great. I have two last questions for
you here. The first one I ask all performers and
I get such surprising answers on what it is, and
we've kind of come to a consensus. I wonder where
you are with it? What should be the age? And
again this is an adult industry positive show and everything
like that, it's just the thought question, what should be
the age when females can begin performing in adult work.
Like there's the anecdotal things where you go, sixteen year
old girl gets kicked out of her house, she waits
a couple of years, she's jumping from couch to couch.
Now she's able to start some kind of a career
on only fans. Then you also think of the other
side of it, some eighteen year old girl jumping into
situations that are dangerous or whatever, and it's her choice.
Do you have any thought on that?
Speaker 2: I do. So. I started when I was twenty five,
and I was I mature at twenty five in my
insex work, and I'm glad. I like as much as
I would have loved to have been eighteen and getting
to be, you know, a stepdaughter and porter stuff like
that like that looks so fucking fun. Like literally the
girls they have such great costumes and things to her
and they're having bare I love that for them. I
wouldn't want to stop that because as well, like eighteen
is the legal age, you know what I mean. But
I think that what I gained from starting at twenty
five is I'd already seen the real world. I'd already
gained some knowledge of myself so that when I went in,
I knew who I was, Because when I was eighteen,
I did not at all personally. I didn't know I
was immature at twenty five. I'm probably still immature at forty.
But I would say, and I when I lived in Australia,
I actually worked in a licensed premises there. Oh no,
it actually was in a strip club. Work in a club.
I had to have my serving license to work in
the strip club, and so there was going to look
at it's just like a I think they have the
same thing in America. I just haven't ever done it.
It's like basically like a like a short course where
you have to study about alcohol, serving responsibly, things to
look out for, blah blah blah. It's a short course,
probably with some self reflection in it. As well, and
then you do does whatever. I would say that not
super super short, but I'd say maybe like a six
week course or something that if you wanted to get
into adult work under the age of twenty one, then
you have to go do that course or under the
age of any kind of arbitrary number that people would
decide on, and then you go do that course, whether
it's six weeks or I don't think you doesn't need
to be like a college course. I don't need like
a degree or anything like that. But I think that
to cover, you know, just the basics of everything, and
that the basics of like, oh, this is, this is
kink stuff.
Speaker 1: This is you know, this is these are these are
how boundaries are sad, this is I mean, do do
the business side of it too, you know, the social
media side. I think that would be great. The so
some of the go ahead.
Speaker 2: So I think that would I think that would help,
because I don't think it would. I don't think I
think it would help in two ways. I think it
would help people inform themselves, but I think most peop
would still go on and try it because they've already
invested enough to do the course. But I think that
they would go at it with a different mindset from
having done the course, and it might people who literally
haven't even considered the implications. They might Some people might
have some like red what do you call like red flags
come up during the course that they actually decided never
to go. You know, Oh my god, this is the
internet forever. Oh my god. I hadn't thought about the
further implications because when you're eighteen, your brain isn't even
was it, they say, the court.
Speaker 1: The something something in your brain.
Speaker 2: This isn't developed something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe so it. I've interviewed a lot of
big mainstream performers, some girls who got in at eighteen,
and all of them pretty much, a lot of them,
many of them we understand the other side of it.
A lot of them are like twenty one, twenty one,
twenty one, twenty one. Here's kind of a consensus we
came to that we think might work. What if from
eighteen to twenty one, because I agree there's no reason
you should be able to go fight in a war
at eighteen but not make porn if that's what you
choose to do from eighteen to twenty one, only the
personal sites, the loyal fan the only fans, and you
can only do solo stuff, can't publish any of this stuff,
build up your social media platform, see what you like
in terms of kink and niche and whatever, and then
at twenty one, if you want to go shoot for
Team Skied Brass or whatever it is, then you can
begin doing that. Again, it's tough, because you're right, it's
about maturity there. I've met eighteen year olds who blow
me the fuck out of the water in terms of maturity,
and I've met fifty year olds who don't know what
the fuck they're doing. So it's so tough. It's just
you hear. And again I'm not saying that's necessarily my view,
it's just kind of the consensus we've come to that
might work in that sense.
Speaker 2: I can see that like the soft launch through OnlyFans
and solo is I'd say, I know, I still think
that you should be allowed to do. I think that
you should still be allowed to do Go boy boy,
go whatever with your partner, go go whatever it is
that you want to do that you're doing in your bedroom.
I think that I don't know, maybe it's my maybe
it's from living in America for the last ten years.
I'm like, you know, it's freedom of speech, it's freedom
of sexiness. I don't know, but I think so. There
was something recently that I had I shot in Vegas
for a VR company for the first time, and they
had a what do they call it, a talent liaison
or a model liaison, and I think that would be
maybe something that could be used. And there's if you
are doing a boy girl scene between eighteen and twenty one,
you could you'd have to have like a person editor.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think that's a bad idea at all.
It's you know, I again, that's a personal preference for everything.
Like some of the girls who have said twenty one.
One girl said twenty five. I think she started at eighteen.
So it's like it's tough. It's tough because you want
to protect people, but you also don't want to limit them, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I also just think of all of the
like and I'm not saying this in like a any
kind of way other than I think when you start
to limit because it's creative tea and like, yeah, if
they're enough been not coming up with like scientific inventions
or anything like that. But just think of all of
the magic and all of like, it's a worthwhile thing
to do. It's creating something that's worthwhile. It's creating entertainment,
and we're having our own lives at the same time,
we're growing as people through it. So I think there
just being like, no eighteen year old should be eighteen
to twenty or eighteen twenty, even though I really think
that if I cared about one of my friends and
I'd be like, I really hope that you would wait
until you just have a better idea of yourself and
a better idea of the industry, blah blah blah. But
I yeah, just any kind of like big sweeping kind
of like limitation I think would limit everything like that
would be there would be no eighteen year old pawn.
It would be a sad day.
Speaker 1: It would be a sad day for all of us.
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At least, thank you so much. You you were so insightful.
I love your dog. I don't care that it barked.
And now your phone.
Speaker 2: That was like, I don't mind your dog box. I
don't even know how it's happening.
Speaker 1: This, This is two people above thirty seven who just
don't know what they're doing. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Uh, hello, so what's happening. I've got a new phone.
Speaker 1: Up and it's connected and it's linked up. Is there
a pop up on there?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: There we go. Let's just wrap it up with that.
At least, London, thank you so much for coming on
with me tonight.