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Speaker 1: Thought crime syndic it minus one is back, Charles. How

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you doing well?

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Pete yourself hanging in there.

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Speaker 1: Doing good, doing good. Dee. What's going on?

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Speaker 3: Oh, you know, nothing ever happens, nothing ever happens.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, this is the thing that I've been

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going through for what is it now, thirteen days thirteen

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days of well, you know, Jews still exist. I don't

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care what he does, but Jews still exists. So there

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are no victory laps. I mean that's pretty much what

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I think. Most of most of our guys are like, Wow,

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this is something is happening here. But then you have

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the kind that, like, I mean, really should just be

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libertarians because of the peer because of the purity spiraling.

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It's like, well, Jews still exists. So I mean this,

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this is nothing, this is this isn't going to work.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think we need to be little bit cautious here.

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If the tariffs only enrich rich people, they're bad. I

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was thinking about this. I just got off the phone

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with a friend of mine who's an LLM expert, and

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I got a buddy. It's called my buddy Dave. Dave

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works as a welder somewhere in the Midwestern United States

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doing something very important for the empire, and inflations basically

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killed his ability to you know, make a living. And

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the problem we have right now is we live in

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an oligarchy where the finance sector has pretty much hoovered

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up all available corporate profits. And you can look at

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it like profits by sector from say nineteen seventy to

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the present. Right, Ford used to make money making cars.

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Now they make money financing stuff, and they're just like

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a hedge fund with a car company attached, or retirement

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fund with a head, you know, the car company attached.

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And if Mark and Dreason or Ellen Musk wants to

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be like a super rich oligarch and Elon Musk wants

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like a harem of twenty like autistics sup like super

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hot nines. Okay, I can't really default the guy. I mean, like,

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that's what every fifteen year old boy wants, right like

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it's it's at least a human human thing.

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Speaker 1: The problem we have right now is that.

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Speaker 3: My buddy Dave, who lives in the American Midwest, because

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of government policies pursued by the oligarchy, has destroyed the

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ability of the average dude to make a living and

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now because of llm's you're you're destroying white collar work

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in a way that we haven't even like, we don't

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even know how bad it's going to get. Computer programming, accounting,

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like engineering, like it. A ton of stuff is going

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to fall apart here in the next five to ten years.

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whatever it is that the Chinese are doing, there was

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probably a lot of bs from the Sam Moultman types.

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order to your figure LLM to work, there has to

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be electricity. So you got to pay the guys that

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deliver electricity and make electricity enough that they can afford

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to live and actually contribute to the system. Because right

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now we just treat the guys who build electricity like

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you know, mushrooms. We feed them shit and keep them

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in the dark, and we just pretend that, you know,

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the three guys talking in three different time zones across

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the continent is normal, and like just it should just work,

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difficult stuff to make this conversation possible. And your crypto

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or you know, your stock portfolio or whatever all of

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that requires an underlying substrata of like honest, hardworking white

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dudes in order to function. And so we'll see if

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if Donald Trump actually pulls this off. Good for him,

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but you know, people should be skeptical. He did do

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his Trump coin, his Milania coin kind of stuff right

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before the inauguration, and that was pretty pretty low and

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this is all stuff he should have been doing in

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twenty sixteen. But you know, good for him to finally

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actually realize he's at war with these people. At least

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right now, it looks like he's actually taking this seriously,

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and that's really important.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say that's I would say that's exactly

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where where I'm thinking lately. And I see Pete's and

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I've seen plenty of those out there, those types where

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they say, oh, well, these people still exist or this

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situation still exists, so we can't celebrate anything. I think

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of our respective ages, but I think a lot of

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people lack the proper perspective and fail to see just

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how far we've come in so brief a time period.

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what one famous author wrote is going broke in the

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sense of you go broke very gradually and then suddenly

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all at once. And I see a lot of this

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leader and as a person. We know, oh, he is

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not quote unquote our guy, but we have to take

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what we can get, and we have to be grateful,

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thank Heaven for small blessings, although I think many of

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the blessings we're getting now are far from small. I

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think we just have to maintain a perspective in that

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we are winning quite a few battles, quite a few

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and is it the war? No, no, it's not. This

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is going to be a very long and arduous war.

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grateful for that and continue the fight. I'm also not

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saying rest on our laurels. That's foolishness, but we do

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have to be grateful for our victory. And we can

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be skeptical, but I don't think we need to be pessimistic.

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as you said, also, we have to appreciate the people

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that are on our side. We can't fall victim to

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overlooking people. Because one of the things that the right

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the French Revolution, is the idea that just because somebody

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is lower than you in the hierarchy, it means that

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they are subhuman, that they are intermitsed of some sort.

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not a Hindu or none of that. Just because you

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may be below me in the hierarchy the social strata,

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doesn't mean I don't value what you do. Doesn't mean

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I don't understand that you contribute very important things. As

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much of this what we have. And I agree with

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quite well with three men talking across time zones. But

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as you have already pointed out, just the fact we

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have running water and electricity, and we need to understand

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that these are not default positions, and I think to

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assume them to be default positions is to fall prey

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to very feminine thinking, because, as I've written and spoken

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about many many times, women generally, whether they're cognizant of

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this or not, view life as a video game where

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once you get to a certain point, you just click

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save and you can never fall below it. We, however,

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as men, know we absolutely can fall below it. We

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as men know that maybe we'll get a job at

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six figures and then a year later be working at

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the local McDonald's. Not that there's any shame in working

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at McDonald's, but we know that we're not going to

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be making six figures at McDonald's. So I think that's

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what we have is what we have, make use of it,

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Speaker 1: I think it's important as things are going along that

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if something seems to be a win, that you stop

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and you be like, you know, just enjoy it for

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ten minutes, you know, seeing the wall at the FBI

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training center that had all these diversity slogans on it

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getting painted. Well, I mean, that's that's nice. Seeing you know,

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Speaker 3: Seeing council charities like be like we're going to have

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to close is fantastic. And and again I want to

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be very clear here, Donald Trump has done more in

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the last two weeks than any president since Richard Nixon

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to actually help the white people of this country. Yeah,

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was not like Nixon Institute of the EPA, and there's

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the Cold War by you know, the pivot to China

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but.

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump, the problem is people should be skeptical. Donald

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stuff through. Because it was really cool to see the

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you know, DEI mural painted over at the FBI. But

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is it just a thin coat of paint over the

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underlying substrata where the people who are at the FBI

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are still like vild race trader communists or are they

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gonna get turfed out and be doing something else for

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a living. And now If Cash Pattel actually does what

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Speaker 1: People, great.

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Speaker 3: I want the FBI to go after you know, uh criminals,

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sex traffickers, you know in pedophiles and interstate criminals, kidnappers,

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things like that. That's what I want the FBI for.

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then there should there shouldn't be an FBI. And it

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Speaker 1: Well it's a matter of if they want, if they

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want to do something, and I mean they they should

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the people who want to see everything as that. Well

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I can't take that. I can't celebrate that because you know, oh,

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you know that you can't celebrate this, you know? And

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allow people to be able to change. I've changed in

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my life. Most of the people I know do not,

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or at least that I associate with, did not always

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believe what they believed, and they had they changed your mind.

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that somebody who has power or money will never change

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their mind. But I think we've seen the evidence that

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people with power and money do change their minds. People

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have influence to change their minds, and maybe it's out

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of self interest, but that doesn't mean that that self

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and that they have to have a functioning air traffic

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this call, right, the biggest problem in Charles, You've talked

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like an upper middle class shit lib woman, your life

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consists of magic spells. Correct, you say, you know, Kamala Harrison,

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it's like, so let it be written, so let it

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be done right. She has no idea of all the

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amount of work it it took to get like the

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JP eight the jet fuel into the jet she has.

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She has no clue about the refining process pulling it

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out of the ground, the refining process, the pipeline it

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takes to get it from point A to point B.

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You know, the storage of it, they're putting it on

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the plane. You know, the sailing, the nuclear aircraft carrier,

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all the stuff that has to go right all the

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time with something like that, and then you know the putting,

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the putting the warhead on the forehead. How hard that is.

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This woman has no clue about any of it. Nope,

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not even the slightest idea. No, And so it's just

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magic to her of like, well, I you know what

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did Hillary Quinton say, we can't we came, we saw

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he died, right, Like, she has no clue how hard

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it is right to like not crap airplane?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, And that goes back to my That

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goes back to my earlier statement in this very broadcast

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about they view life as a video game and they

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just think I'll just press a button and then it's

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my save point. And this is how it's always going

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to be, forever and ever a men. And that that's

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why I say we have to avoid these these types

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of thinking. And you're right, they just can't. They can't

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fathom it. And that's why everything's falling apart because as

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you said or quoted me, like they just everything happens

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by a magic spell. Everything happens by a magic spell.

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I mean, I'm going to try and watch what I

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say very carefully here because I don't I don't want

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to give out any any information about your family, but

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I mean I happen to know quite a few details

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about you and your family. And it's like, look at

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the women in your very family, how intelligent and educated

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they are. And even you're like calling me up every

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so often, going.

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Speaker 1: Do you believe what?

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Speaker 2: Do you believe this? And I'm like right, and and

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that's one of the smartest women in the country, like

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what do.

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Speaker 1: You and this is and they all do it. That's

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just the way they are.

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Speaker 3: Why the nineteenth is a mistake, Yes, rightly. You know Pe,

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you talked about that, I think on a program. But

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Donald Trump, I don't know if it was getting shot

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in the head. I don't know if it was throwing

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him in jail. I don't know if it was attempt

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to bankrupt him. I think honestly, he started to get

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really offended when they put this absolute dog in front

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of him and said that he'd like actually tried to

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hit on that woman, like like, I'm sorry, but the

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Donald has been importing, has been importing top shelf tail

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female companionship from Eastern Europe for forty years, like like,

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he is not, he is not hurt for a good

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you know, yeah, And I mean what you're saying to it,

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I think.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a combination of what you're saying. I mean,

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I do hear you, and I think there's probably more

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truth to that than many people would even admit that

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that that itself was a slap in the face and

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one from which he didn't he didn't like lightly shy

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away something that aggravated him tremendously. I wouldn't be surprised.

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But to go back to your your larger point and

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the topic in hand is I would like to believe

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that it wasn't any one of those things, not even

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getting shot, that it was a combination of all of them.

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That he sees his boomer mind has finally finally come

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to the realization he had, he has finally exited his bubble,

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that these people want you dead. I don't understand how

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more how to say it anymore. Clearly, these are not

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people with whom you can argue in good faith. These

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are not your fellow boomers where you can look him

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in the eye and shake their hand and just walk

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in and say, hey, I'm here, give me a job,

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and blah blah blah. You can't argue in good faith.

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I would like to think all of the things you

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mentioned finally shook him awake to those realities. Now again,

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Am I saying he's gonna be our guy? No, that's

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not at all what I'm saying. But I will go

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back to what I said when we were talking about

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Eric Prince and a lot of those things. Trump is

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a bridge, full stop. That's how I look at him.

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That's how I think. Frankly, if I may be so immodest,

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I think everybody should look at him, be grateful, be happy,

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but do not expect or don't even desire him to

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be the destination. He is a bridge. He is getting

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us over a chasm. To mix a metaphor that you said,

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d yourself hasn't been bridged in sixty years, you know,

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fifty years, sixty years.

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Speaker 3: So be grateful that Nixon and Kennedy, like the second

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they try to do something about it, they both got killed,

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right and then literally.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and that's what I'm trying to say. Again, I

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also state, and I'll see the floor in a moment,

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but I also state I agree with you that yes,

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be skeptical. No one's saying that we should put all

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our faith in him, all our stock and everything. And

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I agree with what Pete said earlier, like you know, okay,

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you can celebrate for a few minutes, you can enjoy

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your victory, and then you got to get back into

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the fight. I agree with that, But I'm still trying

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to point out that he is a bridge. Understand him

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for what he is, and even if he is a

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king on the chessboard, he's still just another piece of

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the whole. He may be a vital piece, he may

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be the most vital piece at this moment, but he

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is still a piece on the board. There are others

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and they get have to be used. He is not

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the game itself.

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Speaker 3: And I do want to give him a great deal

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of credit in one particular respect.

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Speaker 1: All my enemies are seating and it is fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Right, But I love when I think there's something I

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will tell the right people. Yeah, just to touch.

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Speaker 1: Up here, he here's one of the things. Yeah, oh okay,

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I'll wrap up very quickly.

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Speaker 2: But here's here's what I just want to say real

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quick to that, like, like to your point too, Pete.

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We have to take a moment to celebrate, because we

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have to remember why are we doing this If we

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don't enjoy you know, a nice a nice building that

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we finally got constructed that isn't some brutalist communist trash,

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or we finally have a nice park, or we finally

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paint over the DEI. You have to take a moment

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and remind yourself why you're fighting, and you have to celebrate.

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And because will to fight is just as important as

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the tools at once dispose. If you lose your will

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to fight, if you're demoralized, doesn't matter all the ammunition,

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all the weapons you have, You've already given up the

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battle and you've lost, so we have to remember why

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to fight. Okay, I'm sorry, gentlemen, you please continue.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I was just gonna say I was looking

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cleaning out my phone today and I'm sure both of

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you guys remember probably like the most base fag ever

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on the right, justin Romondo. Yeah, yeah, I found one

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of his old sweets. He said, politics is purely negative.

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You should get that. It's about who you hate. Trump

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is hated by people I hate. That's why I root

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for him. We're rooting for him. We're rooting for him

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to destroy these people.

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Speaker 3: And you can give you a concrete example, that vile

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Episcopal women bishop that talked about trans children of the

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National Cathedral. Okay, well, it turns out there's like two

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million people who work for the federal government and like

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twelve million people that work for non gentile organizations that

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are dependent on federal tax dollars. That that woman is

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basically a government employee and she should be fired and

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every dime that she's ever received. I mean, if you

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could call it back from her and sewer that would

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be great, but like just stop giving her money, right,

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you know, the cat Lady Industrial complex that like prevents

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people from actually, you know, building stuff because.

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Speaker 1: You know the.

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Speaker 3: Some fish and you know the delve's spelled or some

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little tiny owl in the Pacific Northwest, right, whatever, Who

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do you think these people are? It's left wing women

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who make up the majority of these offices that I

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wrote about it, right, Like they should have gotten married

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at nineteen to a guy who's like a welder or

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a logger or an electrician or something, some guy who

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was actually doing some or a trucker or something who's

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actually doing something real in the real world, giving them

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three kids by the time she was thirty five or four,

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and then by the time she's forty, she's looking forward

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to grandkids and is like happy and you know, reasonably,

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but instead, you know, she's thirty five, childless, single and

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like coming to terms with the fact that she's never

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gonna have kids because she got a master's at twenty

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five after getting a sociology degree and then bumming around

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for two or three years working some mindless NGO job

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that was like unfulfilling and poorly remunerated. So she went

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to grad school and got a further bullshit degree. Unless

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she I got a degree in sociology and then got

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a degree in you know, grievance studies of some sort.

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Speaker 1: Right, so she's.

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Speaker 3: A master's in grievance studies. And so she gets out

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of that at twenty eight, you know, further ideologically poisoned,

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with most of her fertility years gone, and well, I

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can't have a kid now. I just racked up two

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hundred thousand dollars in student debt.

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Speaker 1: I got.

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Speaker 3: I gotta get out of debt first, So like you, boyfriend,

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have to wait for five years while I get my

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fiscal house in order. And then she's in her thirties,

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been cooking your ovaries for you know, the last twenty

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years with you know, birth control pills, and all of

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a sudden she finds she can't have kids. The boyfriend

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bails because he'd like, you know, well, there's there's twenty

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three year olds that don't have a master's that they

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can have kids, and they aren't total bitches about you know,

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the patriarchy. So I'm gonna go date one of those.

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You know, twenty three year old with daddy issues is

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way better than a thirty three year old with daddy issues.

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And then and then she's thirty five single, alone and

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really unhappy. And I'm seeing this in my own life

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right because I'm at that age where, you know, I'm

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ad forties and a bunch of people I went to

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school with they're all like, oh, I'm never gonna have kids, Like, yes, yes,

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that's exactly right. You're never gonna have kids. Now, for

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the guys in my life, you still might, you can,

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you can find the twenty three year old code with

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daddy issues.

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Speaker 1: And have some.

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Speaker 3: But for all the women who are in my age,

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are you know, ten years younger than me, like, you're

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not gonna have kids. And I gotta say, like a

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big w that I'm really personally very happy about is

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watching all the wrong people stop stealing from decent people,

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Like the NGO complex is so huge and is such

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a vast fortress of left wing power, and literally all

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you needed to do was pull the plug, just stop

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the just stop the endless spigott of government money, and

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every one of these people is broke overnight, overnight, exactly,

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and instead, instead instead of becoming bitter, thirty five year

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old childless women, all if you're told the truth as

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a young lady, like hey, you can get a bullshit

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degree and and end up here thirty five, childless whatever.

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Or you can marry, you know, build a welder, build

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a truck driver, and and have a few kids and

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then maybe go do something else, you know, once the

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kids are grown or in school. That's that's an unmitigated

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w That's the biggest problem in America right now in

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terms of our demographics is that the productive white middle

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class isn't having enough children. And the reason we're not

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having enough children is the perversion incentives built into the

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educational system.

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Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, absolutely, Yeah, I want to go back.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that let me, let me jump

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in there for a sec. One of the things that

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this stormy pointed out to me a while back was

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that h basically non governmental organ organizations or non genile organizations,

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which include nonprofits. And if you know, if you know

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about this, these are mostly funded. They're either being funded

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by taxpayer dollars money just printed from this through this

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department that apparently Elon Musk seized and like the longest,

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one of the oldest, one of the most senior government

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officials was actually working through it where they just print

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checks to anyone. They found out today they were printing

477
00:29:20,319 --> 00:29:23,480
checks to terrorist organizations. And you know when you heard

478
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:28,839
that that Osama bin Laden was getting paid through like

479
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,920
two thousand and five by the CIA. When you see this,

480
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,200
it's like, oh, there was nothing nefarious about that. That's

481
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,000
just it's just a bureaucracy and how it works. But

482
00:29:37,359 --> 00:29:40,000
one thing Stormy pointed out to me was ten percent

483
00:29:40,039 --> 00:29:43,680
of the US population works for one of these groups.

484
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,759
Ten percent of the population works for one of these groups,

485
00:29:48,759 --> 00:29:54,160
an NGO or a nonprofit. There's a chance that with

486
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,319
the USAID going out of the way and this being audited,

487
00:29:57,599 --> 00:30:02,039
that this goes away. I mean, sure, you're going to

488
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,960
have to do you're going to have to stay on it.

489
00:30:05,279 --> 00:30:07,839
You're going to have to make sure it doesn't start

490
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,359
up again. But okay, how would it start up again

491
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,400
if you have your own people. That's what I think

492
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:17,759
a lot of people aren't even realizing yet what they're

493
00:30:17,799 --> 00:30:21,240
planning on doing. They can't do until they have everyone

494
00:30:21,359 --> 00:30:25,400
like appointed and in place. They're waiting for people to

495
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:32,279
get to get confirmed, and just seeing what they're doing

496
00:30:32,319 --> 00:30:35,759
before half of the confirmations are even in. I mean,

497
00:30:35,759 --> 00:30:37,960
I think probably a lot of them aren't even in

498
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,480
is pretty remarkable. It seems like it's setting the stage

499
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,839
for something that they can do once they have you know,

500
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,720
personnel running the I mean this guy that they got

501
00:30:48,759 --> 00:30:53,359
fired who was just basically printing checks, in charge of

502
00:30:53,359 --> 00:30:57,440
printing all the checks. He was the acting head of

503
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:03,119
the treasury. I mean, that's the kind of fucked up

504
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:07,599
system that this is. Is at this like career bureaucrat

505
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,880
that no one was going to fire until now or

506
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:17,279
and they basically forced him to quit. He he was

507
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:24,279
he was head of the fucking treasury in transition. This

508
00:31:24,359 --> 00:31:27,920
is how this is this kind of stuff that's it

509
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,440
looks like they're trying to fix now you know who

510
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,519
they fix it with. Apparently, you know, the Senz has

511
00:31:32,559 --> 00:31:35,160
gone in there and he's talking about bitcoin and he's

512
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,640
talking about you know, he had a whole thing about

513
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,759
removing the income tax. I mean, I don't know, I

514
00:31:42,759 --> 00:31:43,039
don't know.

515
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:49,039
Speaker 4: I mean, but but why would they say why would

516
00:31:49,079 --> 00:31:51,279
they be saying all of this ship I mean, are

517
00:31:51,319 --> 00:31:54,200
they make Are they making all this stuff up and just.

518
00:31:54,319 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: Lying to you know, lying to the frogs on Twitter.

519
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,680
They're just they're lying to us. They're trying to trick

520
00:32:00,799 --> 00:32:03,559
us because we have so much power and we're like,

521
00:32:04,039 --> 00:32:13,279
what the fuck what are people talking about? I had

522
00:32:13,319 --> 00:32:15,480
someone the other day say to me, say to me, oh,

523
00:32:15,559 --> 00:32:17,759
they're just trying to get you on on their side.

524
00:32:17,759 --> 00:32:21,920
I'm like, yeah, okay, what okay, what give me? I

525
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,920
will yeah, well get yeah, but they're just trying to

526
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,960
get you there. They're just trying to get you to

527
00:32:28,079 --> 00:32:30,279
repeat their talking points. I'm like, okay, and how does

528
00:32:30,319 --> 00:32:33,839
that help? If they're gonna do what they want anyway,

529
00:32:34,759 --> 00:32:38,599
why would they be targeting me? Are you fucking stupid?

530
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:45,240
Well the answer in most cases is yes. But right.

531
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 3: So, one thing that I think that our our guys

532
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,519
need to do, and it is our friends over at

533
00:32:52,559 --> 00:32:56,440
Country Mundham, C. J. Angle and Andrewskier recently talked about this,

534
00:32:56,559 --> 00:33:01,519
like the unlined right is now driving the discourse and

535
00:33:01,599 --> 00:33:03,680
a couple of things that if you're listening to this

536
00:33:03,759 --> 00:33:07,279
and you have influence, okay, a couple of things you

537
00:33:07,359 --> 00:33:14,039
need to do, all right, It is ridiculous ten percent

538
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:21,240
of the entire US population, working US population was effectively

539
00:33:21,319 --> 00:33:28,079
doing communist adje prop with tax payer dollars. That's insane, okay.

540
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:35,960
And the fact that the three of us who are

541
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,599
let's be honest on the better end of doing right

542
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,400
wing propaganda art being paid full time by someone with

543
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,160
lots of money. And you know this is where I

544
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,079
do my weekly shill. Go to the support Pete, you know,

545
00:33:50,119 --> 00:33:52,839
Paige Freeman, beIN the wall, slash support and kick in

546
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:58,880
ten bucks. Okay, because if you really want this to

547
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,240
be permanent, you need to build institutions and pay the

548
00:34:02,279 --> 00:34:07,440
people you want to do things. Okay, left doing communists

549
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,119
figured out a way to get ten percent of the

550
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:17,480
entire working population paid from tax dollars. Okay, guys who

551
00:34:17,519 --> 00:34:22,119
are welders and truckers and electricians and plumbers, we're paying

552
00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:27,639
thirty forty fifty percent of their check every year in

553
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:33,039
taxes like direct taxes, and then tens of thousands in

554
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,320
what amounts to taxes because they have to move out

555
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,960
of their neighborhood and move somewhere else because the population

556
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,119
gets a little too diverse, and that's tax and you

557
00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:45,039
know all the other little things that diversity, all the

558
00:34:45,039 --> 00:34:48,400
other cost diversity import forts on these guys. But you know,

559
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,239
if you're a plumber who's making one hundred and twenty

560
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:54,239
grand because you work really hard, you're in that top

561
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,920
tax backet and you're paying out the nose. So the

562
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,079
left wing government in the United States was taken that guy,

563
00:35:04,159 --> 00:35:08,679
and it was taken half of his check. And sure

564
00:35:08,679 --> 00:35:11,159
it was occasionally given him a highway and occasionally given

565
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:12,760
him an Department of Defense that would go fight a

566
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,400
bunch of wars somewhere where it didn't help him at all,

567
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,360
But a huge chunk of his check was going to

568
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,960
people that wanted to make it illegal for him to work.

569
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:30,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely to me, and to me God God finish thought.

570
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 3: So if you want to avoid that sort of stuff,

571
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,679
figure out a way to pay the people that are

572
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:41,400
actually fighting the battles. Build the institutions so that City

573
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:46,239
of London mouthpiece, uh freaking Piers Morgan just gets humiliated

574
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,280
every time he opens his mouth instead of just when

575
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,719
he's on Tucker. That guy's a laughingstock and he should

576
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,480
be made fun of. Figure out a way to pay

577
00:35:54,519 --> 00:35:57,559
the people who are actually capable of making the arguments.

578
00:35:58,599 --> 00:36:06,119
Build the institutions so that in four years, you know,

579
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,639
Jdvance doesn't go up against Gavin Newsom and lose.

580
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: Yeah to me, like to me finding that understand what

581
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,320
let me Charles me, I'll be I'll be real quick

582
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,559
that's gonna be real quick and understand when Dee is

583
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:26,559
talking saying this, he's not talking to you guys who

584
00:36:26,559 --> 00:36:29,719
are going to your daily job and supporting your family

585
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,440
and getting by. He's talking to you out there who

586
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:42,480
have means like could finance a fucking ng o on

587
00:36:42,519 --> 00:36:46,559
your own? Where are you? Where the fuck are you?

588
00:36:48,519 --> 00:36:49,000
I'm done?

589
00:36:50,599 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 2: No, that's there's a great Point's exactly what I'm talking about. Yeah,

590
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,679
I'm not going to back down from either of those,

591
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,079
but I'm gonna be my usual self and try a

592
00:36:59,119 --> 00:37:01,679
white pill too. I'm gonna be honest with you. I

593
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,199
love hearing that we just found out that ten percent

594
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:09,039
of the American population has been working for these organizations.

595
00:37:09,119 --> 00:37:11,119
I think that's great. But I'm gonna explain why I

596
00:37:11,159 --> 00:37:15,239
think that's great. That's because that goes to show you that, again,

597
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,119
as I've been saying for I don't know the past

598
00:37:17,159 --> 00:37:20,760
few weeks on the side on our chats d or

599
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,800
past couple months, that all of our enemies really are

600
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:30,679
just gambling, gambol gambling paper tigers. They really are. They

601
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,800
really are not anywhere near the challenge we ever believe

602
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,480
them to be. They're just paper tigers. They're puffer fish

603
00:37:37,519 --> 00:37:40,719
because look, they couldn't even build their own organizations. They

604
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,679
just stole it from America. Now we're finding out that

605
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,559
the reason that the long marches through the Institution were

606
00:37:46,559 --> 00:37:50,280
a thing is because they literally can't build anything of

607
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,519
their own. Sure we've always said that, and maybe we've

608
00:37:53,519 --> 00:37:57,760
intellectually understood that, but I don't think even I'll speak

609
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,159
for myself, I won't speak for anybody else. I don't

610
00:38:00,159 --> 00:38:07,239
believe I ever truly grasped how absolutely ineffective and ineffectual

611
00:38:07,679 --> 00:38:12,159
our enemies are. Oh well, they stole trillions, absolutely they did.

612
00:38:12,599 --> 00:38:15,599
But to me, that's great news. Stop letting them steal,

613
00:38:16,119 --> 00:38:19,559
that's it. Just turn off the spigot. And we're seeing

614
00:38:19,639 --> 00:38:22,679
already what the what the impact of that is they

615
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:29,000
crumble literally almost overnight, literally almost overnight. So what do

616
00:38:29,039 --> 00:38:32,039
you think, let me just wrap up real quick, and

617
00:38:32,079 --> 00:38:35,079
what do you think is gonna happen when all these

618
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,760
when we just keep turning off the spigots, when we

619
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,159
just keep plugging holes in the boats. As you were

620
00:38:40,159 --> 00:38:42,519
saying earlier, Pete, some people are gonna go, oh, it'll

621
00:38:42,599 --> 00:38:44,880
just go to Israel or h one b Okay, So

622
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,119
then we'll plug that hole too. Again, this isn't this

623
00:38:48,159 --> 00:38:51,800
isn't an instantaneous fix. But the white pill here is

624
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,719
these people can't do anything without us. They literally can,

625
00:38:56,159 --> 00:38:58,800
as you've been saying, d they have to have their

626
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:03,639
hands in our pockets or they get fuck all nothing.

627
00:39:04,199 --> 00:39:06,239
And what do we do when we take their hands

628
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,199
out of our pockets? They fall over and cry and

629
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,400
that's it. They're done. What kind of actual resistance have

630
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:16,639
they offered since all this began? Almost nothing? Why? Because

631
00:39:16,679 --> 00:39:20,400
they don't have anything. They have shrieking, they have shame,

632
00:39:21,639 --> 00:39:24,880
they have blame, but they don't have any any real action.

633
00:39:25,119 --> 00:39:29,480
They don't have any money, bingo. They just have talk.

634
00:39:29,599 --> 00:39:32,280
They have a sewing circle, they have a gossip circle.

635
00:39:32,639 --> 00:39:36,400
That's what they have. They are they are spiritual women.

636
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,320
As I have been saying, God, dee, how long have

637
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,840
I been saying that? Eight years, ten years? I don't

638
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,119
even know how long we've been saying. So what are

639
00:39:44,119 --> 00:39:46,960
they gonna do? Yeah, they're gonna throw themselves on the bed. Yeah,

640
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,559
they're gonna throw themselves on the bed. They're gonna scream

641
00:39:49,599 --> 00:39:52,559
into the pillow. Like to me, this is a tremendous

642
00:39:52,559 --> 00:39:56,360
white pill. Yes, I understand it's terrific. Yes, all of

643
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,199
us here have been stolen from you know. Hell, I

644
00:39:59,199 --> 00:40:00,880
don't even have any kids. It's because of all of

645
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,199
this shit over the course of the years. So yes,

646
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:08,239
I understand the tragedy. I also understand the white pill

647
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,039
in it. And that's what I'm trying to put on

648
00:40:10,079 --> 00:40:13,119
display for everybody now, like, just watch what's gonna happen.

649
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,400
Do you think these people are really that truly dedicated

650
00:40:16,679 --> 00:40:19,360
to their cause that when we stop giving them eighty

651
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,519
grand a year and do nothing laptop jobs, they're still

652
00:40:22,559 --> 00:40:28,280
going to be pushing progressive causes. Absolutely not, absolutely not.

653
00:40:30,679 --> 00:40:36,199
Speaker 3: And what I was bringing up right right now, just

654
00:40:36,199 --> 00:40:40,239
to use a concrete example, Okay, Andrew Isker and CJ.

655
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:49,320
Angle should be paid full time generously to find left

656
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:55,199
wing bullshit given to progressive churches used to undermine Christianity

657
00:40:55,239 --> 00:41:03,440
and America. That should be their full time job. And

658
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,360
if they don't want the job, it should be given

659
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,559
to somebody that's trustworthy, that understands the issues. Somebody like

660
00:41:08,599 --> 00:41:12,159
Michael Hitchborn and the Catholic sphere. I don't know, but

661
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:17,239
the entire progressive church establishment, as exemplified by that awful

662
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:24,280
episcopally woman bishop. Right, they're all government employees. Well, we

663
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,679
can fire those people stop giving him money, and then

664
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,920
are they going to do, you know, like without all

665
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:36,920
this money that they've been getting from taxpayers. You know,

666
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,960
build a plumber who makes one hundred and twenty third

667
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,280
a year by working seventy hours a week or eighty

668
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,880
hours a week, you know, literally up to his eyeballs,

669
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:50,599
and shit, right, if if we can get a tax

670
00:41:50,639 --> 00:41:53,280
system that doesn't take half of what that guy makes,

671
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,880
all of a sudden, he's doing a lot better and

672
00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:59,559
these other people are doing a lot worse.

673
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:00,760
Speaker 1: And that's good.

674
00:42:02,639 --> 00:42:05,119
Speaker 3: And yeah, right now, we live in a corporate oligarchy

675
00:42:05,159 --> 00:42:09,440
controlled by finance that where you know, the finance system

676
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,400
is takes all the profits from someplace like Excellon and

677
00:42:12,639 --> 00:42:15,119
they make enough profit to stay open and that's about it.

678
00:42:16,079 --> 00:42:19,440
And the finance side takes all the profits. And then

679
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:24,480
among the finance firms, the people at the top did

680
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:28,320
the lions share the money. So it's a you know,

681
00:42:28,519 --> 00:42:34,159
like a pyramid scheme oligarchy. Yeah, it's terrible and I

682
00:42:34,159 --> 00:42:39,519
don't want to defend that. But right now, if we

683
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,239
just stop paying the people trying to destroy us. That's

684
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,119
a huge step in the right direction, a huge step

685
00:42:45,159 --> 00:42:48,360
in the right direction. I think that Donald Trump should

686
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,119
do a couple of things. What he's been doing so

687
00:42:50,159 --> 00:42:55,000
far is great. What I want to see from him is,

688
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,000
where's my NFA repeal. Where's my Hearing Protection Act so

689
00:42:59,119 --> 00:43:03,840
that suppressors and you know so called silencers. Where's my

690
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,960
reciprocal concealed carry Where's my right to do business so

691
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:12,639
that YouTube can't just demonetize me overnight so I can't

692
00:43:12,679 --> 00:43:18,280
be debanked. That's that's when you know we're winning right now.

693
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,719
Right now, we've got a couple of w's. When we're

694
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,280
actively winning is when we're taking territory back from the

695
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,159
people who have taken it from us. Because right now,

696
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,320
if you gave me a right to do business law

697
00:43:29,599 --> 00:43:32,159
and a shielding from docs in law and something like that,

698
00:43:35,559 --> 00:43:41,480
we'd win. We'd win that The legacy media is in

699
00:43:41,599 --> 00:43:46,199
shambles and it's a great to watch. They don't have

700
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:47,440
the slightest clue what to do.

701
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:54,119
Speaker 1: But the only reason, well, go ahead be Yeah, there

702
00:43:54,119 --> 00:43:56,559
are a lot of reports that we're getting. I mean,

703
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:00,679
I have people contacting me all day about how government

704
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,840
workers they know, they're just not going to go back

705
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:09,920
to work. They're not. It's as petty as his picture.

706
00:44:10,119 --> 00:44:12,679
Donald Trump's picture is going to be in the office,

707
00:44:13,039 --> 00:44:15,480
and I'm not going to look at it. I'm going

708
00:44:15,519 --> 00:44:18,480
to take the eight months pay and leave. I mean,

709
00:44:18,599 --> 00:44:22,320
this is exactly how you do it. You These people

710
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:28,079
are not as fanatical as you think they are. They're

711
00:44:28,159 --> 00:44:32,960
in it because they're getting paid. And sure there are

712
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,920
a lot of them that are true believers, but it's

713
00:44:35,039 --> 00:44:38,480
not as many as you think. I mean, look, how

714
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,880
many true believers do you Now? We know a lot

715
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,559
of true believers because this is what we do. But

716
00:44:43,639 --> 00:44:45,320
you know, the average person if you ask them, how

717
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:49,320
many people do you know that are like insanely politically ideological?

718
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,840
And they you know, they're most people don't even know

719
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,719
one person, or if they do know that, they maybe

720
00:44:54,760 --> 00:45:00,760
know one person, that person's hiding it. We're just the

721
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:05,719
fact that it seems like he surrounded himself with some

722
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,199
people who were like, for whatever reason, it could be

723
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:13,320
their own self interest, that they need to tear this

724
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,480
thing down and tear it apart. Well, I mean, I'm

725
00:45:17,159 --> 00:45:19,639
I'm going to celebrate it, and I don't really care

726
00:45:19,679 --> 00:45:22,360
who does it, you know. I mean they got the

727
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:26,840
ceasefire in. He got the ceasefire in Gaza and the

728
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,280
hostages home. But the hostage is coming home, which hurts

729
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,440
net and Yahoo no matter what anybody wants to by

730
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:38,280
sending a Jewish real estate magnet there to be like, hey,

731
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:42,199
you're going to do this, okay, net Ya, who may

732
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,599
start bombing Gaza in the next week or some still,

733
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,599
it was to go there and say fuck you. And

734
00:45:51,559 --> 00:45:55,719
you don't think that US aid there are things that

735
00:45:55,800 --> 00:46:00,000
were just making its way into I mean, let's face it,

736
00:46:00,519 --> 00:46:04,039
there's a reason we call these organizations non gentile organizations

737
00:46:05,159 --> 00:46:11,559
because we know who runs them. Our enemies are not

738
00:46:11,679 --> 00:46:15,280
as impressive as you think they are. And I think

739
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,039
if you can take anything away from the last fourteen days,

740
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:24,639
it's that look at these people. They suck, they're weak,

741
00:46:25,519 --> 00:46:29,079
they're easily they're they're defeated. They're going to They're just

742
00:46:29,159 --> 00:46:31,760
going to quit and give up. Where are they going

743
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,599
to go? What are they going to do? Are they

744
00:46:34,599 --> 00:46:36,519
going to get a job from If they work for

745
00:46:36,519 --> 00:46:39,159
the government right now, they getting a job with an NGO? Okay,

746
00:46:39,199 --> 00:46:44,039
who's funding that? I think people really need to understand

747
00:46:44,079 --> 00:46:48,159
what this is if, of course, if it's being done,

748
00:46:49,199 --> 00:46:51,360
if if this is all true and they're not just

749
00:46:51,519 --> 00:46:57,480
lying to you because you're so important. But yeah, these

750
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,920
these are not impressive people, and these people could be

751
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:04,360
could be destroyed overnight, and they are being destroyed overnight.

752
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:04,920
They are destroyed.

753
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:10,079
Speaker 3: They're being destroyed overnight, and I think it's it's really important. Again,

754
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,639
I'm gonna be skeptical. I'm gonna wait until you know

755
00:47:14,679 --> 00:47:16,599
the courts. A lot of this stuff is gonna go

756
00:47:16,639 --> 00:47:21,320
through the courts, I think, in particular, something like birthright citizenship,

757
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,920
just for example, right, if the courts.

758
00:47:23,599 --> 00:47:24,760
Speaker 1: Find that.

759
00:47:26,559 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 3: Illegal Mexicans having kids in the United States makes them citizens,

760
00:47:31,599 --> 00:47:33,079
it's now time to be like, okay, well, then the

761
00:47:33,119 --> 00:47:35,960
Constitution is in fact a suicide pact and it's time

762
00:47:36,079 --> 00:47:37,840
to like punch out of it.

763
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:40,039
Speaker 1: Right.

764
00:47:42,559 --> 00:47:45,280
Speaker 3: I don't I personally don't regard any any court decisions

765
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,840
signed off by Atlantic Keagen or Soda and Sodoma or

766
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,000
or Ketunji Brown Jackson as legitimate because I just don't

767
00:47:51,039 --> 00:47:53,440
think that they have any right to tell me what

768
00:47:53,519 --> 00:47:56,199
the law is in my country. Like you're not you're

769
00:47:56,199 --> 00:48:00,960
not my countryman, you have no your women first of all. Second,

770
00:48:01,559 --> 00:48:05,239
like like, you know, you're just not people that I

771
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,440
would respect enough to say, Okay, well, you know, whatever

772
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,079
I think of them, their opinion matters, like no, I don't.

773
00:48:10,119 --> 00:48:10,559
Speaker 1: But that's me.

774
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:17,079
Speaker 3: But if they say that, no matter what, and the

775
00:48:17,079 --> 00:48:21,639
courts find that, you know, the fourteenth men requires us

776
00:48:21,679 --> 00:48:26,400
to basically commit suicide as a nation. That's gonna be

777
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,679
awful in a lot of ways. But on the other hand,

778
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:35,800
you just provementious mullbug correct or you just proved Michael

779
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:40,159
Hill correct. You're not gonna get the genie back in

780
00:48:40,199 --> 00:48:45,320
the bottle. You're gonna see major moves in Florida, in

781
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:49,880
Texas in other places to secede. And if it flips

782
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,840
the other way, and in fact illegal immigration is like,

783
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,400
well they're not citizens and they don't belong here, a

784
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,079
huge chunk of California is gonna be like, but we

785
00:48:57,119 --> 00:49:05,719
want out, like okay, doors that way buy, you know,

786
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:10,800
and regardless of how things turn out, you know, we

787
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:15,440
can turn these either to our advantage either way, and

788
00:49:15,599 --> 00:49:21,840
our enemies are losing power vastly, but just just not

789
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,760
paying them for ninety days as a president is ordered.

790
00:49:25,159 --> 00:49:26,760
A ton of these places you're just gonna go out

791
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:32,000
of business. Yeah, your commercial real estate is gonna get

792
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,400
so cheap because every n g O is gonna just shudder,

793
00:49:35,119 --> 00:49:41,440
they're gonna go bankrupt. They're gonna close. What are these

794
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:46,840
people gonna do or you know, open up organic bagel shops?

795
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:50,079
Speaker 1: You know.

796
00:49:51,159 --> 00:49:53,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're gonna be doing a bunch of the jobs

797
00:49:53,079 --> 00:49:56,119
the legals used to do because there's no other jobs available.

798
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:03,280
Speaker 2: Right Exactly, they're unimpressive people. And as I've said, that's

799
00:50:03,639 --> 00:50:06,039
as I said earlier in the program, the only reason

800
00:50:06,039 --> 00:50:08,519
they have anything is because they took it from us.

801
00:50:09,039 --> 00:50:11,960
I mean, it's that simple. What did they build nothing?

802
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,760
They didn't build anything. While they have all this stuff,

803
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,599
all this money. Yeah, but they didn't build any of it.

804
00:50:16,639 --> 00:50:18,719
That was the American government that they did their long

805
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:22,960
march through. That's all we've just said. They're all effectively

806
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:28,639
federal employees, either literally or figuratively through the NGOs and

807
00:50:28,679 --> 00:50:31,119
all these other things. They get grants and everything. They

808
00:50:31,119 --> 00:50:34,559
didn't build any of that. They just parasited off of it.

809
00:50:35,159 --> 00:50:38,360
So as I've said, as I said earlier, it's these

810
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:43,360
people are are not as impressive as anyone thinks they are.

811
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,119
And I am trying, and again another white pill. For

812
00:50:46,199 --> 00:50:51,199
me personally, I count my blessings that I'm not fighting

813
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:57,280
the communists in what nineteen during the revolution in Russia

814
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,599
in whatever year that was. Forgive me the white and

815
00:50:59,639 --> 00:51:01,800
the red eye. I don't recall off top of my head,

816
00:51:02,199 --> 00:51:05,679
like you know what if I'm yeah, thank you, Like

817
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,679
I'm not fighting guys that are hungry and farm workers

818
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:13,320
who who haven't already learned that they're being manipulated by

819
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,639
our tiny hatted friends, like these guys are really hung

820
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:22,480
sincerely hungry, sincerely starved, sincerely troubled, and like, oh, okay, you

821
00:51:22,519 --> 00:51:25,079
know what, these guys know how to fight, they know

822
00:51:25,119 --> 00:51:27,119
how to work, they know how to do things. It's like, okay,

823
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,880
that's an enemy that I'm worried about, and frankly, I'm

824
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,480
grateful I don't have them as an enemy. I don't

825
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,519
what do I have the cat lady industrial complex to

826
00:51:36,639 --> 00:51:39,960
use your phrase, d and what do I have to

827
00:51:40,199 --> 00:51:42,519
do to win? I'm going to quote my buddy that

828
00:51:42,679 --> 00:51:45,039
owns a logging company up in Canada, what do I

829
00:51:45,079 --> 00:51:50,800
have to do to win? Stop losing? Stop losing? That's it.

830
00:51:51,159 --> 00:51:53,559
You don't really have to win. Just stop losing, Stop

831
00:51:53,679 --> 00:51:58,800
letting them take your money, Stop giving them money. That's it.

832
00:51:59,039 --> 00:52:01,000
Stop being scared of them. And when they talk, say

833
00:52:01,119 --> 00:52:03,880
I don't care Margaret and move on.

834
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,280
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I don't care, Margaret. That should be

835
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:17,079
Just repeat that to yourself over and over again. I

836
00:52:17,079 --> 00:52:22,639
don't care, Karen. It doesn't matter. Like, what is the

837
00:52:22,639 --> 00:52:25,760
Department of Education done that actually makes education better in

838
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:30,400
this country? Why shouldn't we shut it down? You explain

839
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:36,719
to me why we shouldn't shut it down. Instead of

840
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,119
instead of us being on the defensive, you explain to

841
00:52:39,119 --> 00:52:41,679
me why people who beautileate kids shouldn't be in jail.

842
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,679
Speaker 2: Right, you explain to us because it's our money, not yours.

843
00:52:45,119 --> 00:52:47,559
Like to me, it's that simple. It's like, that's why,

844
00:52:47,599 --> 00:52:49,480
that's why they should have to explain it. That why,

845
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:51,639
that's why the burden of proof is on them. I

846
00:52:51,679 --> 00:52:53,840
agree with the one hundred percent d and that's the point.

847
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,000
Just say no. You explain to me, Oh, well, you

848
00:52:56,079 --> 00:52:57,679
just need to be educated in this and that you

849
00:52:57,679 --> 00:52:59,760
need to understand. No, no, I don't because I'm not

850
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,239
the one asking for the money. I'm not the one

851
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,320
asking for the favor. You are so you tell me

852
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,599
why do you need it. It's like you did when

853
00:53:07,599 --> 00:53:09,440
your kids eventually say, hey, Dad, I need to use

854
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:14,960
the car. Okay, well, why where are you going? Well,

855
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:16,320
you don't need to know that you need to give

856
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,519
me the car. No, I think I do need to

857
00:53:18,559 --> 00:53:18,800
know that.

858
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:21,079
Speaker 1: Who knew?

859
00:53:21,639 --> 00:53:24,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I got a thing at church. Okay, you

860
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,039
can have the car. I was gonna go out drinking

861
00:53:27,119 --> 00:53:29,800
with a bunch of low character reprobates. Uh no, you

862
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:31,920
can't have the car. Right, Like these are these are

863
00:53:32,039 --> 00:53:37,519
two different things, right, And I think it's important right now.

864
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,519
You know, all this stuff that's being done is good.

865
00:53:45,159 --> 00:53:49,480
It's should have been done eight years ago. But Donald

866
00:53:49,519 --> 00:53:51,119
Trump didn't know. He was in a knife fight for

867
00:53:51,199 --> 00:53:53,440
his life at the time. And he's trunded by a

868
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,519
lot of bad people who gave him really bad advice.

869
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:02,199
And you know, and something Pete mentioned earlier that I

870
00:54:02,199 --> 00:54:06,119
think is important. Like I've been at out and out

871
00:54:06,159 --> 00:54:13,400
like far right, hard right guy for fifteen years, and

872
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:20,440
even I changed my mind to get here, you know,

873
00:54:20,519 --> 00:54:22,880
like the only people who get to say like I

874
00:54:23,039 --> 00:54:25,119
was right from the beginning are like Pat Buchanan, Jared

875
00:54:25,159 --> 00:54:34,320
Taylor and Mark Webber. Everyone else got here through learning things.

876
00:54:34,199 --> 00:54:34,599
Speaker 4: And.

877
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 3: We should be skeptical of people who just like, oh

878
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:42,719
I totally agree with you now, like okay, sure, great,

879
00:54:43,079 --> 00:54:48,000
like prove it. But at the same time we have

880
00:54:48,079 --> 00:54:50,119
to be open to the fact like we all got

881
00:54:50,119 --> 00:54:53,559
here via reading and learning and listening to stuff and

882
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:59,480
looking around and looking at history. And if somebody who

883
00:55:00,639 --> 00:55:07,039
is relatively a newcomer, you know, seems sincere, we shouldn't

884
00:55:07,079 --> 00:55:10,840
put him in charge of things, certainly, but we shouldn't

885
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:12,559
just be like, oh, you're new, so we can't listen

886
00:55:12,559 --> 00:55:20,480
to you, right, And I think it's really good actually

887
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,440
that the system has been so hostile the same people,

888
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:29,440
because that's shown millions and millions.

889
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 1: Of people.

890
00:55:32,559 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 3: Just how totalitarian and insane the Nuremberg regime is. Right, Like,

891
00:55:44,519 --> 00:55:48,519
they're just as religious as the court of Saint Louis ninth,

892
00:55:48,639 --> 00:55:53,480
King of France, right, who was a literal saint and

893
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:57,280
opened every you know, with prayer and mass and right

894
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:01,440
like every day he heard mass. Well, these people were

895
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,960
just as religious he as he wasn't just their religion

896
00:56:04,039 --> 00:56:10,239
is evil and they're just as totalitarian as Joseph Stalin.

897
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,039
They just don't put people in cool likes. They just

898
00:56:12,079 --> 00:56:16,400
you know, prevent you from working, prevent you from being

899
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:21,400
able to get married, prevent you from having a bank account.

900
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:23,519
Speaker 1: So like you can survive.

901
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 3: Sort of, but you can't do anything about it. So

902
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,960
I think it's really good that more and more people

903
00:56:34,079 --> 00:56:39,760
understand just how big the fight is. And it took

904
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:41,960
what three generations, Pete to get us to this spot,

905
00:56:42,039 --> 00:56:46,679
you know, from you know, the Civil Rights era with

906
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:51,320
Johnson Great Society to now. I mean, if that's where

907
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,719
you put the put the start at, I mean, you

908
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:56,719
can go back even four or five generations to the

909
00:56:56,760 --> 00:57:02,280
New Deal regime, but least the Civil Rights regime. It

910
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,880
was solidly in place by nineteen sixty five. That's you know,

911
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:12,320
seventy years, two generations, at least three generations. It's gonna

912
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:16,360
it's not gonna be like unfucked overnight. As much as

913
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:20,599
I would love to press the button, and I you know, listeners,

914
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:25,079
if you said to me, d you've got a button,

915
00:57:26,159 --> 00:57:31,000
and if you push that button, everything gets fixed, but

916
00:57:31,079 --> 00:57:33,760
it gives you incurable stage four cancer. You're gonna be

917
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:41,320
dead in a month. I push the button, and I'm

918
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:44,679
one hundred percent serious. I would push the button knowing

919
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:52,599
I would die in excruciating agony because that would be

920
00:57:52,599 --> 00:58:00,000
the best thing for my children. So I would prefer

921
00:58:00,119 --> 00:58:04,320
fur everything can be fixed overnight. But I know that

922
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,760
that's not the case. It's gonna take work, it's gonna

923
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:10,719
take time, it's gonna take effort, and we should enjoy

924
00:58:10,719 --> 00:58:13,679
the winds wall we've got them. We should absolutely, you know,

925
00:58:13,719 --> 00:58:15,840
sit back, pops and popcorn and have a few beers

926
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:20,480
and laugh at all the DEI people who are getting fired. Right,

927
00:58:20,519 --> 00:58:24,760
that's that's fantastic, Like, please bring me more video of

928
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:25,920
crying Mexican women.

929
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 1: I don't want to go back to Mexico with the

930
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:29,599
worst thing.

931
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:30,039
Speaker 5: In the world.

932
00:58:30,039 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Like, oh really, you know all your

933
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:42,400
Mexicans Los Angeles ware in the Mexican flag. Oh, being

934
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:47,079
surrounded by Mexicans is the worst thing ever. Okay, I guess,

935
00:58:47,199 --> 00:58:50,280
I mean I found it pretty awful when it's happened

936
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,760
to me. I found Mexicans pretty intolerable.

937
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:54,639
Speaker 1: Actually, Uh.

938
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean, I guess glad you agree on with

939
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:01,519
me on something like these are good things.

940
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 2: But we.

941
00:59:07,679 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 1: Can't just.

942
00:59:10,639 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 3: Rest on our laurels and just oh trust the process. No,

943
00:59:13,039 --> 00:59:19,039
we need to push. We need to push constantly for

944
00:59:19,599 --> 00:59:21,159
to make sure that all the stuff that he's talked

945
00:59:21,159 --> 00:59:24,440
about already has been implemented, and then for the other

946
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:29,719
stuff that we need or want, like like, why are

947
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,880
you know, working people in America playing taxes at all?

948
00:59:35,519 --> 00:59:38,920
What do they get out of the system? You know, schools,

949
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,079
they can't use, roads that look like the dark side

950
00:59:41,119 --> 00:59:47,639
of the moon water, systems that are held together with

951
00:59:47,719 --> 00:59:51,719
duct tape and bailing wire. What are we actually getting

952
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:56,559
out of the system that justifies thirty forty fifty percent

953
00:59:56,559 --> 01:00:03,840
of what I make going in taxes? Airplanes falling out

954
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:13,920
of the sky. Canadian truckers who you know come across

955
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:15,559
the border, don't know how to drive and end up

956
01:00:15,559 --> 01:00:18,400
plowing through a bunch of kids. What am I getting?

957
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:23,239
And you out there who are listening, you know, join

958
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:26,239
your local chapter of the Old Glory Club or find

959
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:29,400
a group of guys local to you and advocate for

960
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:33,559
yourselves as yourselves and ask the system like what are

961
01:00:33,559 --> 01:00:39,320
you going to offer me to stay loyal? Because right

962
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:45,239
now you give me no reason whatsoever. You know, a

963
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:49,000
starter house and anywhere in America where there's actually jobs

964
01:00:49,719 --> 01:00:52,199
is half a million dollars.

965
01:00:53,039 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 1: And interest rates.

966
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 3: Youer eight and a half percent? Are you fucking high?

967
01:00:58,599 --> 01:01:01,639
Eight and a half percent and half a million dollars

968
01:01:02,119 --> 01:01:09,440
for a three to two in a bad neighborhood. That's crazy.

969
01:01:09,679 --> 01:01:15,360
What are you going to give me system so that

970
01:01:15,559 --> 01:01:20,000
I won't rebel against you? Why should I be loyal

971
01:01:20,079 --> 01:01:21,840
to you when you were not loyal to me?

972
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:31,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we don't. We still need to push

973
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:37,360
and remember that the easiest way to navigate this system

974
01:01:38,119 --> 01:01:42,119
is to build locally. I mean, that's still the future,

975
01:01:42,159 --> 01:01:50,840
no matter what's happening here. Seeing just how ineffective some

976
01:01:51,039 --> 01:01:54,920
leadership is, how all leadership is basically, and now the

977
01:01:55,039 --> 01:01:58,039
leadership that's coming in there is basically from the private sector,

978
01:01:58,079 --> 01:01:59,199
and they're going to want to go back to the

979
01:01:59,199 --> 01:02:03,199
private sector. Point. You know, as Thomas says, this thing

980
01:02:03,199 --> 01:02:05,280
has just fallen apart. It's just going to take. It's

981
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:08,599
going to take forever. So you need to start building locally.

982
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:14,000
But still the more that can be destroyed in the process, uh,

983
01:02:14,119 --> 01:02:17,559
the less the less they have to come after you with.

984
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:20,480
So you know, one thing that a lot of people

985
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:24,239
have noticed, has started to notice, is is that basically

986
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:27,920
all of these I mean, most of the things that

987
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:33,360
are doing that they're doing have basically come from our

988
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:39,320
side of Twitter, and it's like they're mining for ideas,

989
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:42,159
and you know, people are now wondering, like, who's you know,

990
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,800
whose burner account is this? Things like that? Is that

991
01:02:46,519 --> 01:02:50,039
somebody who's looking for power, you know, looking for ideas

992
01:02:50,079 --> 01:02:54,920
that they can use and put and use power to. Yeah,

993
01:02:55,559 --> 01:02:58,880
move forward and tear this, tear down what's been built.

994
01:02:59,519 --> 01:03:02,719
So yeah, you don't stop. You don't stop going forward.

995
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:06,480
You don't you don't stop throwing the ideas out there

996
01:03:06,639 --> 01:03:11,239
and demanding things because I know that a lot of

997
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:17,159
people don't want to believe this, but yeah, they're getting

998
01:03:17,159 --> 01:03:23,239
ideas from Twitter. They're like seeing how the wind is

999
01:03:23,239 --> 01:03:27,280
blowing on Twitter and seeing what people are doing, and

1000
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:31,400
then they're acting. And you know, I mean, we know

1001
01:03:31,639 --> 01:03:34,320
for a fact that a lot of these guys, even

1002
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:37,920
guys that you would not expect, listen to our you know,

1003
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:45,119
listen to our podcasts. So keep the ideas going, never stop.

1004
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:49,280
But that doesn't mean that everything has to be negative.

1005
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:53,599
That you can't you can't enjoy a win, You can't

1006
01:03:53,719 --> 01:04:00,079
enjoy seeing us aid, just like their website disappear and

1007
01:04:00,159 --> 01:04:05,000
their Twitter account disappear, their website and the White House

1008
01:04:05,039 --> 01:04:08,639
website disappearing. Yeah, yeah, I mean all this stuff. I mean,

1009
01:04:08,679 --> 01:04:13,840
you're so much of Basically, what they're doing is they're

1010
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:18,639
canceling the people who've been canceling for the past ten

1011
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:24,239
fifteen years. Yes, and that is what needs to be done,

1012
01:04:24,559 --> 01:04:28,519
because they don't understand anything else. And the thing is

1013
01:04:28,519 --> 01:04:33,840
is they've gotten so used to winning that they they

1014
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:37,880
don't know what to do at this point. Are their

1015
01:04:38,079 --> 01:04:40,280
elites out there? And I think another thing that this

1016
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:46,079
proves when you see people going well this, definitely know

1017
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:51,159
there are moves being made that are to weaken the power,

1018
01:04:51,639 --> 01:04:57,639
that will weaken the power of Zog. I mean, he's

1019
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:02,920
he's basically like they're going to war with with Europe.

1020
01:05:03,119 --> 01:05:09,440
I meane Jamie Diamond and friggin' and Jerome Powell are

1021
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:13,840
trying to destroy them financially or trying to just tear

1022
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:18,360
down the whole system that keeps them going. And then

1023
01:05:18,559 --> 01:05:21,440
you have money going to Israel. You have. This is

1024
01:05:21,519 --> 01:05:24,119
exactly what the fuck we were saying a year ago.

1025
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:27,840
There is an elite revolution going on, and there are

1026
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:32,079
different elite power groups and some are winning, some are

1027
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:35,199
they're fighting, and some are getting big wins over here

1028
01:05:35,199 --> 01:05:37,800
and some are getting big wins over here. You can't

1029
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:40,719
fucking except when you have elites that are going at

1030
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:43,800
each other. Some are gonna win, some are gonna lose,

1031
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:47,519
until one until it gets to the point where one

1032
01:05:47,559 --> 01:05:50,280
team will actually win, and you hope it's the team

1033
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:54,920
that is more on our side than not. I mean,

1034
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,920
we saw this, we called it, We've been saying this.

1035
01:05:58,239 --> 01:06:01,639
I said, Marco Rubio was not here to fucking talk

1036
01:06:01,679 --> 01:06:04,519
to Benjamin net and Yahoo. He was here to go

1037
01:06:04,559 --> 01:06:08,400
to South America, to Central America and South America. Where

1038
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:13,599
the fuck is he South America? And and to your point, right,

1039
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:18,320
thanks to Stormy and thanks to you, right, like all

1040
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:20,920
I see is like City of London versus not right,

1041
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:24,840
And Tucker Carlson goes on to talk to Piers Morgan,

1042
01:06:25,519 --> 01:06:27,719
and Piers Morgan might as well have put to you

1043
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:30,440
like brought to you by City of London tattooed on

1044
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:36,320
his forehead, right, because the city I know I've I

1045
01:06:36,559 --> 01:06:38,960
shared with you guys. But for the listeners, there's a

1046
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:42,239
wonderful British sitcom from the eighties called Yes Minister and

1047
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:46,559
then Yes Prime minister, and it's it's very, very funny.

1048
01:06:46,599 --> 01:06:49,119
But you know, the British had the same or the

1049
01:06:49,159 --> 01:06:54,159
City of London has had the same foreign policy for yeah,

1050
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:57,760
last half half a millennium or so ever since they

1051
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:00,239
really took over. That is that.

1052
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 3: There shall not be a strong power on the continent

1053
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:08,679
because a strong power of the continent could say to them,

1054
01:07:09,079 --> 01:07:12,000
why are you encoding laws to us, We have swords,

1055
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:15,320
We're just gonna take your money and you can't do

1056
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:20,679
anything about it. Go fly a kite back to the

1057
01:07:20,719 --> 01:07:29,360
pale right, So the City of London has contrived things,

1058
01:07:30,039 --> 01:07:31,719
you know, I would recommend Pete's episode on the City

1059
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:38,719
of London was stormy. I think it was was stormy, okay,

1060
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:46,639
but story we talked about it too. The Heritage American

1061
01:07:46,679 --> 01:07:55,440
Tucker Carlson, without getting in trouble, basically said, your City

1062
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:59,039
of London sociopathic need to not have a strong power

1063
01:07:59,079 --> 01:08:04,639
on the continent is retarded and you've destroyed your country

1064
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:14,000
and you're a fool for wanting to perpetually have this

1065
01:08:14,119 --> 01:08:16,079
financial interest and not have a strong.

1066
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 1: Country underneath it.

1067
01:08:19,359 --> 01:08:23,239
Speaker 3: And Piers Morgan, you know, for whatever else he is,

1068
01:08:23,279 --> 01:08:26,520
he's very adroit, very good on his feet.

1069
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:27,720
Speaker 1: Well what about it?

1070
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:31,199
Speaker 3: No, dude, No, you do not get to try and

1071
01:08:31,279 --> 01:08:36,439
provoke a nuclear war with Russia because having a functioning

1072
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:42,119
empire on the continent gives you bad feefees. I don't

1073
01:08:42,119 --> 01:08:47,960
want to get nukes because you feel bad because there's

1074
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:57,359
a strong power in the continent. Don't care, not my problem.

1075
01:08:57,439 --> 01:09:03,000
And if someone like Tucker who probably knows more than

1076
01:09:03,039 --> 01:09:06,680
he lets on, let's all be honest. Like neph was

1077
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:09,760
working for him, he probably knows a little bit more

1078
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:14,680
than he talks about. Obviously a bright dude. Okay, he's

1079
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:18,880
not gonna just stream. It's the Jews, you know. And

1080
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:21,600
then h hokomny is style like tear off his shirt

1081
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:23,960
and there's not gonna be like, you know, Derek Vineyards

1082
01:09:24,319 --> 01:09:27,159
wouldn't real a friendship tattoo under like this. That's not

1083
01:09:27,239 --> 01:09:31,000
Tucker Cross And okay, and and don't be upset if

1084
01:09:31,039 --> 01:09:36,399
that's not him. Okay, you can't be mad at the

1085
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:41,359
guy for being, you know, in his mid fifties and

1086
01:09:42,039 --> 01:09:44,960
slowly coming to realize that new Conservatism is nonsense.

1087
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 1: Would it be.

1088
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:52,800
Speaker 3: Cool if, like, you know, every everyone in punt it

1089
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:56,199
was like secretly have the Derek Vineyard wouldn't be a

1090
01:09:56,239 --> 01:09:59,399
friendship tattoo, and they all simultaneously tore their shirts off,

1091
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:04,079
hulkam Many style and said, ah, brother, like, there's a

1092
01:10:04,079 --> 01:10:06,479
part of me that's like, you know, perpetually twelve years old,

1093
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:10,399
that would be like, you know, think that was awesome.

1094
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:12,560
But I live in the real world and I understand

1095
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:14,239
that that's not the way things are actually gonna go.

1096
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:21,119
The important thing that we need people in elite circles

1097
01:10:21,199 --> 01:10:24,680
right now to do is to hold the president accountable

1098
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:28,520
and the stuff he's done, and to push for other

1099
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:33,359
good things. There's absolutely no reason NBC should be in

1100
01:10:33,399 --> 01:10:36,520
the White House briefing room because they're just gonna lie.

1101
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:44,079
The OGC livestream last week had more listeners or more

1102
01:10:44,239 --> 01:10:49,439
watchers than CNN does. Why can't Doug be the White

1103
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:54,279
House correspondent for the ord Glory Club. Why does CNN

1104
01:10:54,319 --> 01:10:58,600
get a White House correspondent an Old Glory Club not?

1105
01:11:00,279 --> 01:11:02,760
Why can't we have someone from the you know, the

1106
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:05,720
Virginia chapter be the White House correspondent for the Old

1107
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:06,239
Glory Club.

1108
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 1: They do a better job. They'd ask more.

1109
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 3: Interesting questions, they wouldn't lie, you know, So all we

1110
01:11:22,079 --> 01:11:28,840
need people with influence to do is just not lie.

1111
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:32,239
Speaker 1: That's it. That's all.

1112
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 2: You know.

1113
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:39,520
Speaker 3: Well, all these women are you know, you're you're, mister president.

1114
01:11:40,079 --> 01:11:45,039
All of your cuts have disproportionately affected women. Well, I

1115
01:11:45,079 --> 01:11:47,840
would refer to you to the writing of mister Charles Spadel.

1116
01:11:48,359 --> 01:11:48,560
Speaker 2: Uh.

1117
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:52,560
Speaker 3: Women don't work in the private economy. They do stuff

1118
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:58,840
for men. So maybe these women could, like I don't know,

1119
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:02,000
get married and have kids. Mental pay them to do that.

1120
01:12:04,199 --> 01:12:09,000
They'll be happier. Next question, they're gonna have to grow

1121
01:12:09,039 --> 01:12:09,520
their hair out.

1122
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:11,159
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to grow their hair out on their

1123
01:12:11,199 --> 01:12:22,760
head and get rid of the hair under their arms first. Okay, indeed,

1124
01:12:30,319 --> 01:12:33,520
and really that's not much to ask for. No, And

1125
01:12:34,319 --> 01:12:37,600
I only bring this up very briefly because I promise

1126
01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:39,680
we talk about it. The California fires are a choice,

1127
01:12:43,159 --> 01:12:46,920
and we haven't talked about him since. Things like accidents

1128
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:50,920
over Washington, DC, those are a choice. There's a lot

1129
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:56,800
of stuff out there that's necessary and boring, and you

1130
01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:59,520
need a dude like me who's boring, an autistic and

1131
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:06,479
really care about spreadsheets to monitor that stuff. And this

1132
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:11,840
decline that we've seen my entire adult life is a choice.

1133
01:13:12,279 --> 01:13:14,439
You can choose to not decline, You can choose to build,

1134
01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:18,000
you can choose to make things better. You know, don't

1135
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:21,640
accept that like, oh, it just inevitably, this is what happens. Like, No,

1136
01:13:22,079 --> 01:13:25,199
those fires in California that killed people and burned billions

1137
01:13:25,199 --> 01:13:27,640
of dollars, they could have been prevented, and it was

1138
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:34,560
a choice to make that happen. You know, the crime

1139
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:37,119
that happens in America cities, that's a choice because you

1140
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:43,239
could have locked these people up, but you did. The

1141
01:13:44,319 --> 01:13:47,760
roads that are not safe, that's a choice. The airlines

1142
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:53,239
that aren't safe, those are choices. You have to have standards,

1143
01:13:53,239 --> 01:13:55,960
you have to enforce those standards. You have to care.

1144
01:13:57,279 --> 01:14:02,600
Speaker 3: About building civilization brick by brick, and that takes hard

1145
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:07,079
work and it's boring, but it's necessary. And the guys

1146
01:14:07,079 --> 01:14:08,880
who were too busy caring about whether or not the

1147
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:10,920
planes all fall out of this guy don't have much

1148
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:14,199
time to care about whether you're aout zimzo zer is,

1149
01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:17,199
you know, in the the one in the air traffic

1150
01:14:17,199 --> 01:14:28,000
controller seat. And unless someone is advocating for the the

1151
01:14:28,079 --> 01:14:32,600
actual brick on the ground making sure stuff works, they're

1152
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:37,680
advocating for bad things to happen to decent people because

1153
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:42,159
they're advocating for ignoring the stuff that's necessary in favor

1154
01:14:42,239 --> 01:14:45,199
of stuff that isn't. So they're choosing crime, they're choosing

1155
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:48,520
plans falling out of the sky, they're choosing while fires,

1156
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:52,279
they're choosing you know, this lackluster hurricane response in North Carolina.

1157
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:57,399
They're choosing that. And it's very simple to not choose it.

1158
01:14:59,199 --> 01:15:01,079
And all we need is people in charge to choose

1159
01:15:01,119 --> 01:15:01,600
the right thing.

1160
01:15:07,239 --> 01:15:10,039
Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's when he started doing all these

1161
01:15:10,039 --> 01:15:16,640
things and doing all these eos executive orders and you're

1162
01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:21,560
just basically dismantling a bunch of stuff. You're yeah, you're

1163
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:25,319
talking about choosing Well, I mean what you found out

1164
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:28,159
was what we found out was you can just do stuff,

1165
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:34,079
you know, like literally just decides to do stuff, and

1166
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:43,359
they fuck them. They can't. They're not fighting back, especially

1167
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:46,119
if you just say, look this is the way it is.

1168
01:15:46,319 --> 01:15:48,520
Fight it in court. It was like the whole thing

1169
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:52,640
with not funding, I forget what it was they were

1170
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:54,600
not finding. And then a judge stepped in and said,

1171
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:58,119
well that executive order is uh on constitutional, and say, okay,

1172
01:15:58,119 --> 01:16:00,319
we'll pull the executive order, but we're still not gonna

1173
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:04,359
send the funds out. Okay, you can just do stuff.

1174
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:08,319
You literally become an article to president where you're like,

1175
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:13,279
all power realizes, all power lies in the executive. Fuck you.

1176
01:16:14,079 --> 01:16:17,680
He just has to keep doing it. And I mean

1177
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:22,279
just today he is talking about South talking about South Africa.

1178
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:25,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, the only real legit refugees in the world are

1179
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:29,279
you know, Christians in the Middle East and white South Africans.

1180
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:35,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, so is he. You know what was the thing Panama?

1181
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:38,399
Panama has already said, we're out of the belt, We're

1182
01:16:38,399 --> 01:16:42,960
out of Belton Road, and you know, basically this canal

1183
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:48,079
belongs to the United States and Canada is going to

1184
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:52,720
he put the tariffs on Canada. Canada put tariffs back.

1185
01:16:53,279 --> 01:16:59,239
Trudeau said he wants to meet tomorrow. When you're when

1186
01:16:59,239 --> 01:17:02,760
you're the biggest guy in the playground and you know

1187
01:17:03,039 --> 01:17:08,119
you're willing to fight, you can just do things. You

1188
01:17:08,119 --> 01:17:11,000
can just do things to your enemy because people can

1189
01:17:11,079 --> 01:17:14,279
be like, oh, you know some shit libs on Twitter

1190
01:17:14,319 --> 01:17:18,119
are like, oh, you think we should be bullying our friends.

1191
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:23,479
It's like friends, they're just as zogged as we've been.

1192
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:28,399
They're Canada's just as zogged as we We've been the

1193
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:35,359
freaking president of Mexico's last name is Shinebaum. Europe. Europe

1194
01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:40,960
is a fucking open rape zone. What friends, If anything,

1195
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:44,239
we're gonna have to fucking bail these people out. We're

1196
01:17:44,239 --> 01:17:46,039
gonna have to clean ship up here and then go

1197
01:17:46,079 --> 01:17:49,279
there and do it. It's probably England. There's probably England

1198
01:17:49,359 --> 01:17:53,039
and Great Britain's only freaking hope is for us to

1199
01:17:53,079 --> 01:17:54,439
do it. Maybe Ireland too.

1200
01:17:55,199 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna We're like send the first marine division

1201
01:17:58,479 --> 01:17:59,239
to liberate England.

1202
01:18:00,399 --> 01:18:05,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, what the fuck. And that's what we're

1203
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:09,479
building upon now. Yeah, Trump is not the I mean, well,

1204
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:11,560
let's see what the fuck happens. Let's see how much

1205
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:15,880
he tears apart. He can tear apart enough that some

1206
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:18,840
stuff stops working and some stuff just gets delayed. And

1207
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:21,000
then you just have to you have to keep pushing

1208
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:23,840
for the stuff you know that doesn't get torn down.

1209
01:18:24,119 --> 01:18:28,479
I mean, eighty years destroying eighty to one hundred years

1210
01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:33,399
of work is not easy. It takes will, and it

1211
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:36,880
takes knowing exactly how to do it. I don't know

1212
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:39,720
that they know exactly how to do it. They can

1213
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:43,520
figure it out. Keep pushing it, keep talking about it

1214
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:46,520
on our shows and then you know, it's just a

1215
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:50,359
matter of who comes next, or you know, does what

1216
01:18:50,399 --> 01:18:53,079
does Trump really want his legacy to be? Because I

1217
01:18:53,079 --> 01:18:57,399
think that's something that people forget it is Trump. Trump

1218
01:18:57,439 --> 01:19:00,199
wants to his legacy is more important than anything at

1219
01:19:00,199 --> 01:19:04,119
this point to him, and he does. I don't think

1220
01:19:04,119 --> 01:19:06,319
he wants to be seen as a failure. I think

1221
01:19:06,359 --> 01:19:10,359
he's seen. You know, when you look at his first term.

1222
01:19:10,399 --> 01:19:13,880
I mean, you sure there were some successes, but for

1223
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:17,760
the most part, he was everything he would try to

1224
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:22,000
do was stopped and he wasn't even prepared going into office.

1225
01:19:23,359 --> 01:19:24,880
And when people are like, oh, what's going to be

1226
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:27,600
different this time? Well, everyone who said what's going to

1227
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:33,199
be different this time? You still saying that fourteen days later,

1228
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:43,319
you cowardly fucks. I mean, really, if you're out there

1229
01:19:43,359 --> 01:19:49,119
and you're like, well, I mean just Canadian healthcare? Really? Really,

1230
01:19:49,199 --> 01:19:53,159
I mean, what kind of life are you living. I

1231
01:19:53,199 --> 01:19:56,439
saw somebody the other day, you know, Orrin was talking

1232
01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:59,039
about how, you know, we have to get to the

1233
01:19:59,079 --> 01:20:03,000
point where our people are just cancel proof and some online,

1234
01:20:03,039 --> 01:20:07,000
some terminally online fuckhead goes. Or In's talking about canceling

1235
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:11,359
people and he blocked me, motherfucker. I just had Jay

1236
01:20:11,399 --> 01:20:15,239
Otto pull on my show. You want to talk about

1237
01:20:15,279 --> 01:20:18,560
cancelation like I can't get a job in any school

1238
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:23,520
in the world. In the world. He's taught in seven

1239
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:30,199
different countries. He's he's canceled everywhere, and you got blocked

1240
01:20:30,239 --> 01:20:33,920
by someone on Twitter. Grow the fuck up. Get some

1241
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:38,520
friends in real fucking life. Do you have friends in

1242
01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:40,800
real life or is your whole life the fucking group

1243
01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:49,720
chat on Twitter? Grow the fuck up? I mean, how

1244
01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:52,079
did these people? How do these people run their lives?

1245
01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:57,159
How the fun? How would you buy a house? How

1246
01:20:57,159 --> 01:21:02,439
would you how would you start a family? Take it

1247
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:05,279
from somebody who you know fucking took a long time

1248
01:21:05,319 --> 01:21:10,119
to grow up? Don't fucking wait. You know someone like

1249
01:21:10,199 --> 01:21:14,399
Zoomer historian on Twitter. I mean, this guy's a literal Zoomer.

1250
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:19,319
He's also got like four kids. Wish I would have

1251
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:19,920
done that.

1252
01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:23,039
Speaker 2: Mhm.

1253
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:30,560
Speaker 1: It's time stop fucking complaining about stop finding the fucking

1254
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:37,199
negative in everything, especially online, and go deal with your

1255
01:21:37,239 --> 01:21:43,760
own fucking life. Go build something, have the freaking crushing

1256
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:49,079
weight of the government fall in on it, and then complain.

1257
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:54,039
Stop complaining if you haven't fucking tried to even tried

1258
01:21:54,079 --> 01:21:56,439
to build something yet and you're making excuses.

1259
01:22:03,239 --> 01:22:08,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, can you at least bench two plates, like let's

1260
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:14,880
get there first and then two plates two kids, one

1261
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:22,239
or the other. Yeah, I'm as skeptical of Trump as anybody.

1262
01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:25,159
Speaker 2: You know.

1263
01:22:25,239 --> 01:22:28,079
Speaker 3: I've been a hard right thought criminal for longer than

1264
01:22:28,119 --> 01:22:34,600
most some of you kids have been alive. But good

1265
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:39,000
things are good things. Don't let the fact that you

1266
01:22:39,039 --> 01:22:45,640
know we haven't achieved tav overnight prevent you from like

1267
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:47,720
going out living your life and doing whatever it is

1268
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:57,119
you need to do to be successful. I don't understand it.

1269
01:22:58,159 --> 01:23:02,560
We have to do. You do You're day with duties,

1270
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:11,640
no matter what, So go out and do them.

1271
01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:14,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think I think one of us has a

1272
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:20,199
heart out, and I'm pretty fucking exhausted. So I think

1273
01:23:20,319 --> 01:23:23,079
the message we got out there just for this first

1274
01:23:23,119 --> 01:23:29,680
fifteen fourteen days is good. And then there's something I'm

1275
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:33,760
doing doing pretty soon that after I'm done with that,

1276
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:36,920
I'll want to do a thought crime, send a good

1277
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:41,399
episode on but not announcing what that is publicly. Yeah.

1278
01:23:41,439 --> 01:23:44,960
Then we can get together. Yeah, yeah, we can get

1279
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:48,399
We can get together and talk about that. So I

1280
01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:54,119
will give Charles this this moment to push and promote

1281
01:23:54,159 --> 01:23:55,119
anything he wants.

1282
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:57,720
Speaker 2: I don't have anything to push you well, promote anything

1283
01:23:57,760 --> 01:23:59,439
necessarily at this point, Pee, But I'm just going to

1284
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:02,359
try and make give very brief regarding your statement about

1285
01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:04,880
do you even try? Do you ever do anything? Get

1286
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:08,000
out there, try and live your life. As everybody knows,

1287
01:24:08,079 --> 01:24:10,560
much to my chagrin, I am unmarried and childless. It's

1288
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:13,199
not through any lack of effort on my part, but

1289
01:24:13,319 --> 01:24:15,600
chips just never fell the way I wanted them to.

1290
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:18,960
But I certainly did make the effort. I also had

1291
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:20,920
my career taken from me. Those of you that have

1292
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:23,680
read my book, The Holistic Guide to Suicide probably know

1293
01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:26,079
a great deal about it, but if you haven't, you're

1294
01:24:26,119 --> 01:24:30,479
welcome to purchase it and read it. My story's in there,

1295
01:24:31,039 --> 01:24:33,920
so I would say, as somebody who has lost more

1296
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:38,439
than he has time to recount at this point, I

1297
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:41,640
can tell you that I have been in the bottom,

1298
01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:43,119
I have been at the top, and I have been

1299
01:24:43,159 --> 01:24:47,399
in a lot of places in between. You cannot stop moving,

1300
01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:50,039
you cannot give up. The worst thing you can do

1301
01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:54,880
is to give up it. Truly, truly is that's the

1302
01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:56,800
worst thing you can do, and I want to tell

1303
01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:59,800
you that you are blessed listeners, more than you can

1304
01:25:00,039 --> 01:25:04,199
possibly believe. Even at your darkest moments, I assure you,

1305
01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:06,760
and I will quote quote my Lord and Savior, I

1306
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:10,800
solemnly assure you you are more blessed than you realize.

1307
01:25:11,279 --> 01:25:14,119
You live in an era where the boot is beginning.

1308
01:25:14,359 --> 01:25:16,600
Maybe we aren't there yet, but the boot is beginning

1309
01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:19,520
to be taken off our necks. I did not have

1310
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:23,279
that benefit for fifty some years. Peter did not have

1311
01:25:23,319 --> 01:25:27,039
that benefit for fifty some years. You do make the

1312
01:25:27,039 --> 01:25:30,199
most of it. Make the most of it. And I

1313
01:25:30,239 --> 01:25:33,079
want to say this before I leave. With all the

1314
01:25:33,079 --> 01:25:37,159
immigration issues happening, I am very pleased to see it happening.

1315
01:25:37,199 --> 01:25:39,199
I'm very pleased to see things I have been ranting

1316
01:25:39,239 --> 01:25:43,319
about for at least twenty seven years starting to be addressed.

1317
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:46,760
And I put on Twitter recently that while I am

1318
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:50,479
glad to see them, it is it had started a

1319
01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:53,319
despondency spiral in my own life and in my own

1320
01:25:53,359 --> 01:25:57,199
mind because my life was taken from me, my career

1321
01:25:57,279 --> 01:25:59,319
was taken from me for speaking up and saying we

1322
01:25:59,359 --> 01:26:02,479
needed to address these things. And I've lived a life

1323
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:05,880
of alcoholism and penury for a very long time. I'm

1324
01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:08,079
no longer an alcoholic, but that's a whole other thing.

1325
01:26:09,079 --> 01:26:11,560
But I was just brought a lot of pain that

1326
01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:13,920
I had lost so much. And now I see all

1327
01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:15,920
these guys getting to do the job that I signed

1328
01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:17,960
up and I wasn't allowed to do. So here's the

1329
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:21,479
point of my long bemoting story here right now, I

1330
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:24,840
want to thank everybody in the peak can known as

1331
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:28,399
telegram Chat, and I want to thank everybody on Twitter

1332
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:32,000
that responded with your thoughts and your encouragement and your prayers.

1333
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:35,479
I can't name names at the moment, but God bless

1334
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:38,760
all of you that responded and sent them. They were

1335
01:26:39,319 --> 01:26:42,600
much much help more helpful than I could ever hope

1336
01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:45,600
to express. So God bless you all. And as always, Pete,

1337
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:48,439
thank you for having me on your program.

1338
01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:52,520
Speaker 1: Of course, Dee, you you have something to promote of

1339
01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:53,279
your own.

1340
01:26:54,359 --> 01:27:00,680
Speaker 3: Well, a show out there for traditionally mighty Catholics and

1341
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:06,039
radical right types trying to fuse both those things. Fundamental

1342
01:27:06,039 --> 01:27:10,479
Principle has been launched recently by a couple of buddies

1343
01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:13,840
of Mi Patrick and Jerome. They're they're doing good work,

1344
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:18,800
and I believe you made appearance, Pete. It was wonderful

1345
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:22,039
good it was a good, good show, and I was

1346
01:27:22,079 --> 01:27:24,439
wrong to encourage that. That's kind of your interest, listeners,

1347
01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:27,560
please give it a shot. I believe Pete has links

1348
01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:31,680
to it. Uh, if you go back and it's I've

1349
01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:35,319
promoted it on my Telegram channel, so I'll take care

1350
01:27:35,359 --> 01:27:37,359
of it. Yeah, thank you very much. And of course,

1351
01:27:37,399 --> 01:27:40,399
you know, please go to you know Freeman the Wall,

1352
01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:43,399
be on the Wall slash support and you know, kick

1353
01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:47,439
Pete a fiver. Please. You know, this was necessary work

1354
01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:50,640
that needs to get done. And you know, right now

1355
01:27:50,680 --> 01:27:52,720
we don't have the institutional support. God willing and creak

1356
01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:56,960
them right. Some day we will, but right now, you know,

1357
01:27:57,000 --> 01:27:59,119
the only people who are going to bat for you,

1358
01:27:59,279 --> 01:28:06,039
listeners are people like Pete, So please show them some support.

1359
01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:08,439
Speaker 1: Yeah. I can talk about all the failings in my

1360
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:11,399
own life and things that I didn't do, and all

1361
01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:13,560
I can tell you is that right now, everything that

1362
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:17,640
I'm doing is so that those of you out there

1363
01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:22,279
who are looking to build for the future, build families,

1364
01:28:24,359 --> 01:28:29,079
grow families, nurture families. The work I'm doing, the work

1365
01:28:29,119 --> 01:28:31,680
we're doing, is to try to make it easier for

1366
01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:35,920
you to do that so and for your kids, kids

1367
01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:41,039
and everything. So yeah, that's what our goal is. That's

1368
01:28:41,039 --> 01:28:43,960
what we we know what the we know what the

1369
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:47,159
future is. We know we know what's most important, and

1370
01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:50,359
that's the work we're putting in. So if you ever

1371
01:28:50,439 --> 01:28:56,199
wonder why I do this so that there can be

1372
01:28:56,800 --> 01:29:02,399
a beautiful future, a bright future, a thriving future that

1373
01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:04,880
I will never see that I won't be alive for.

1374
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:09,000
But I think men in the past, great men of

1375
01:29:09,039 --> 01:29:12,920
the past always knew that they were, you know, as

1376
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:15,880
the cliche goes, planting trees that they would never enjoy

1377
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:18,760
the shade of. And I think that's what we're doing here.

1378
01:29:19,079 --> 01:29:24,920
So thanks everyone, Thank you gentlemen. I appreciate it, and

1379
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:27,880
we're back. How are you a gentlemen doing? What's going on?

1380
01:29:27,960 --> 01:29:31,039
Speaker 3: D Well? Pete, it's good to have you back. But

1381
01:29:31,079 --> 01:29:33,159
I do have a very important question for you.

1382
01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:35,279
Speaker 1: What's that?

1383
01:29:36,079 --> 01:29:40,800
Speaker 3: What's it like being in a first world country?

1384
01:29:43,079 --> 01:29:45,039
Speaker 1: I'll answer that after I say hello to Charles. Hey,

1385
01:29:45,039 --> 01:29:45,920
what's going on? Charles?

1386
01:29:46,439 --> 01:29:48,800
Speaker 2: Hey, Pete, good to have you back, Nice to see

1387
01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:49,119
you again.

1388
01:29:51,800 --> 01:29:58,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, well he's here's what I will say. I will

1389
01:29:58,319 --> 01:30:03,560
say that I've come to the conclusion that, you know,

1390
01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:07,680
if you well, I've come to the conclusion that pretty

1391
01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:11,600
much the only way that you're going to have any

1392
01:30:11,680 --> 01:30:16,760
kind of order like that here is it would have

1393
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:18,960
to be widespread, but it would also have to be

1394
01:30:19,039 --> 01:30:24,840
extremely localized. I mean, a national police force here you

1395
01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:26,960
have six There are six point six million people in

1396
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:30,840
El Salvador. There's what three hundred and fifty million here,

1397
01:30:31,399 --> 01:30:34,520
I mean, and we don't know how many illegals. So

1398
01:30:35,039 --> 01:30:37,960
national police force here is probably just going to become

1399
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:44,600
another frigging USAID kind of bullshit program. So I think

1400
01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:48,279
that one thing that I was taught by going there

1401
01:30:48,439 --> 01:30:51,640
is that even though I think six million is still

1402
01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:55,319
too many for a for a polity, for a proper polity,

1403
01:30:56,359 --> 01:30:58,319
it's a lot easier to deal with than three hundred

1404
01:30:58,359 --> 01:31:01,960
and fifty million, And that it basically tells me more

1405
01:31:02,199 --> 01:31:05,399
and more that you know, we need to split up

1406
01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:10,039
and we need to break this down into pieces, and

1407
01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:14,359
that if you are going to have order, and if

1408
01:31:14,359 --> 01:31:18,199
you're going to bring order out of what has been disorder,

1409
01:31:19,319 --> 01:31:22,239
then you're going to have to have a fuck around

1410
01:31:22,319 --> 01:31:25,760
and find out kind of attitude. And that's what I

1411
01:31:25,800 --> 01:31:29,159
saw there. The one thing that you see there is

1412
01:31:29,159 --> 01:31:31,439
you see that there's still poverty, and there's always going

1413
01:31:31,479 --> 01:31:35,359
to be poverty because you have a certain segment of

1414
01:31:35,399 --> 01:31:39,119
that population, in a large segment is very low IQ

1415
01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:42,680
and you know, there's not much you can do for

1416
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:46,760
him except you know, no bless oblige and if they're

1417
01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:50,159
all else, if they're all Salvadorians, if they're all you know,

1418
01:31:50,439 --> 01:31:55,279
cousins related, something that's a lot easier to do. But

1419
01:31:55,399 --> 01:31:59,079
the thing I saw from the richest neighborhood to the

1420
01:31:59,119 --> 01:32:02,960
barrios that I that we drove through and back and

1421
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:06,319
forth from the airport and taking ubers and things like that,

1422
01:32:06,920 --> 01:32:11,239
is that if you're going to clean up and if

1423
01:32:11,479 --> 01:32:14,640
you're not going to have an armed presence on the

1424
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:17,439
street after that, and I'm talking about they have a

1425
01:32:17,479 --> 01:32:22,880
civil guard with shotguns. These are people who these are

1426
01:32:23,199 --> 01:32:28,760
normally probably more like native to the land kind of

1427
01:32:30,039 --> 01:32:32,680
people who are the civil guard. And then you have

1428
01:32:32,760 --> 01:32:36,000
the military, which the military to me seemed more like

1429
01:32:36,359 --> 01:32:40,880
European Spaniards and they're walking around with M sixteen's fully

1430
01:32:40,920 --> 01:32:46,720
strapped ready to go. That's just the way order is

1431
01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:51,880
going to have to be done. Especially coming out of

1432
01:32:52,439 --> 01:32:55,600
We're not coming out of the era of being you know,

1433
01:32:55,760 --> 01:32:59,439
the murder capital of the world like they are. But

1434
01:32:59,479 --> 01:33:02,319
there are sections of this country that none of us

1435
01:33:02,479 --> 01:33:10,399
wants to visit. So as a going forward, if you

1436
01:33:10,439 --> 01:33:14,159
want to learn anything from El Salvador and what Boo

1437
01:33:14,239 --> 01:33:18,039
Kelly's doing is I mean, there's there's numerous things, but

1438
01:33:19,079 --> 01:33:21,279
I can start with I'll talk about prisons if you

1439
01:33:21,319 --> 01:33:24,640
want to, because I've I've learned a lot about the

1440
01:33:24,640 --> 01:33:27,159
prison system down there, which isn't just you know, a

1441
01:33:27,199 --> 01:33:30,560
max where they put people forever they have. They have

1442
01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:37,279
another prison prison system there which is doing incredible things

1443
01:33:37,319 --> 01:33:41,199
and not just for the prisoners, but they're actually making

1444
01:33:41,239 --> 01:33:45,359
them work for the whole fucking country. But if you're

1445
01:33:45,399 --> 01:33:49,359
going to have order, if you're going to if if

1446
01:33:49,960 --> 01:33:52,560
if D's wife is going to be able to walk

1447
01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:54,960
to store, walk to the store at night without worried

1448
01:33:54,960 --> 01:33:59,039
about getting hassled, then you're going to have We're going

1449
01:33:59,119 --> 01:34:02,960
to have to have a frank a different approach to

1450
01:34:03,720 --> 01:34:06,000
how we deal with things.

1451
01:34:07,079 --> 01:34:11,000
Speaker 2: Absolutely this is yes, Well, I'm going to warn you

1452
01:34:11,039 --> 01:34:13,159
guys ahead of time that I'm going to warn you

1453
01:34:13,199 --> 01:34:15,640
guys ahead of time that I'm going to try not

1454
01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:17,840
to step on toes. But this is all very much

1455
01:34:17,880 --> 01:34:21,119
in my baliwick, So forgive me if I keep jumping

1456
01:34:21,159 --> 01:34:24,640
in very very frequently. But yes, I co sign everything

1457
01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:27,199
you're saying, Pete. We have to the entire view of

1458
01:34:27,239 --> 01:34:30,520
both imprisonment and law enforcement in this country has to

1459
01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:36,079
be completely re evaluated, since most of our ideas regarding

1460
01:34:36,119 --> 01:34:39,199
incarceration are about two hundred to two hundred and fifty

1461
01:34:39,279 --> 01:34:42,760
years old, and they just don't apply anymore. They just

1462
01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:45,960
don't apply anymore. It's that simple. Deep Please go ahead.

1463
01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:47,039
I don't want to stomp on you.

1464
01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:51,920
Speaker 3: Well, no, that's all right. You know far more about

1465
01:34:51,920 --> 01:34:53,319
this than I you. I just I'll just say that

1466
01:34:54,760 --> 01:34:58,039
in some sociology work I did many years ago in college, right,

1467
01:34:58,399 --> 01:35:00,439
you're looking at the history of prisons, and it's this

1468
01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:04,039
like absolutely bad shit Quaker idea of like we'll just

1469
01:35:04,079 --> 01:35:06,159
make you sit in your room with note books and

1470
01:35:06,279 --> 01:35:08,439
like go to your room and I'm gonna take your game,

1471
01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:11,920
but we take your take your Nintendo. Yeah, and I'm

1472
01:35:11,920 --> 01:35:13,720
gonna give you just copy the Bible and you'll think

1473
01:35:13,720 --> 01:35:15,600
about how bad a person you are, and you'll feel

1474
01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:18,000
bad and then you'll then you'll reform your life. It's

1475
01:35:18,039 --> 01:35:24,239
like not only your Quakers like theologically retarded in all

1476
01:35:24,359 --> 01:35:30,439
kinds of ways, right, like they're they're the most smug, obnoxious,

1477
01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:34,479
sort of Northeastern Protestant out of everybody.

1478
01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:35,840
Speaker 1: But also.

1479
01:35:37,079 --> 01:35:41,279
Speaker 3: Like that doesn't it barely court sort of kind of

1480
01:35:41,319 --> 01:35:45,920
almost worked in like rural New England or Pennsylvania. It

1481
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:52,479
really doesn't work with populations of red Indians and Mestizos

1482
01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:58,520
and blacks and you know, literally everything everyone from all

1483
01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:03,399
across the world in New York, right, Like, I guarantee

1484
01:36:03,399 --> 01:36:10,000
you there's prisoners, violent criminals in New York City from

1485
01:36:10,239 --> 01:36:15,760
at least seventy countries in New York jails right now,

1486
01:36:16,960 --> 01:36:17,800
at least seventy.

1487
01:36:18,479 --> 01:36:21,239
Speaker 1: That's a safe that's a safe estimate. That Riker, that's

1488
01:36:21,279 --> 01:36:26,279
a safe estimate. Rikers Island is definitely a multiculture liberal

1489
01:36:26,560 --> 01:36:32,239
or progressives multicultural paradise, right, I mean, because and.

1490
01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:38,600
Speaker 3: So this this notion that we can like, well, if

1491
01:36:38,600 --> 01:36:41,119
someone doesn't have the IQ, right, like I forget what

1492
01:36:41,159 --> 01:36:43,880
the threshold is, but it's in the nineties right to

1493
01:36:44,359 --> 01:36:50,119
honestly self reflect So if someone's if someone's some Negro dude,

1494
01:36:50,159 --> 01:36:52,119
who's got an IQ of eighty two, which is not

1495
01:36:52,840 --> 01:36:56,760
unreasonable for that population. Right, it's literally not really capable

1496
01:36:56,760 --> 01:37:02,039
of self assessment. Setting him in a box, all that

1497
01:37:02,079 --> 01:37:05,880
does is like endanger other people that are around him

1498
01:37:05,960 --> 01:37:09,520
and maybe keep the people outside safe and endanger the guards.

1499
01:37:11,439 --> 01:37:14,800
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, yeah, it very much endangeredstely.

1500
01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:18,359
Speaker 1: And and you have to.

1501
01:37:20,079 --> 01:37:23,640
Speaker 3: For someone like that, like you need to like throw

1502
01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:26,239
them in jail for talking to white women. And that's

1503
01:37:26,359 --> 01:37:28,680
and and people will be like that sounds like, you

1504
01:37:28,680 --> 01:37:31,439
know what, what's the Oh the kid that got lynched,

1505
01:37:31,479 --> 01:37:34,119
his dad was a rapist who probably sexually assaulted uh

1506
01:37:34,600 --> 01:37:38,560
m Till met your effors, Emmett Till right, Like you

1507
01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:40,199
know that's them at till thing. He was killed for

1508
01:37:40,239 --> 01:37:44,880
whistling at a white woman. Yes, yeah, because that's the

1509
01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:46,800
kind of standard you have to have to control these

1510
01:37:46,800 --> 01:37:51,439
people of like nope, the second you loosen up and

1511
01:37:51,439 --> 01:37:53,880
and he wasn't, you know, he wasn't. He was killed

1512
01:37:53,920 --> 01:37:56,479
because he like sexually assaulted that lady.

1513
01:37:57,279 --> 01:37:57,760
Speaker 2: Right, And.

1514
01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:01,560
Speaker 3: You know, we all know, we all know what the

1515
01:38:01,600 --> 01:38:08,800
difference is. But the cultural standard that worked in Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia,

1516
01:38:09,680 --> 01:38:16,199
you know, Louisiana, for one hundred years. Was boy, you

1517
01:38:16,199 --> 01:38:17,760
don't even talk to white women.

1518
01:38:19,720 --> 01:38:23,159
Speaker 2: Well again, like just to kind yeah, just to kind

1519
01:38:23,159 --> 01:38:25,279
of go into some of your points to remember, like,

1520
01:38:25,479 --> 01:38:27,279
let's just wheel it back just a little bit. You

1521
01:38:27,359 --> 01:38:30,119
were talking about these principles didn't really work in New

1522
01:38:30,159 --> 01:38:34,640
England or barely functioned in New England, Pennsylvania, things like that,

1523
01:38:34,680 --> 01:38:37,640
the areas that are Pennsylvania from from all those places,

1524
01:38:37,920 --> 01:38:40,800
like they barely functioned there, And you were one hundred

1525
01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:43,479
percent right, that's what I meant by these ideas are antiquated.

1526
01:38:43,720 --> 01:38:46,560
The goal was to put you in a cell by yourself,

1527
01:38:46,880 --> 01:38:49,680
so you could think about what you did wrong. Okay,

1528
01:38:49,840 --> 01:38:54,840
that might might work with guys in this chat right

1529
01:38:54,880 --> 01:38:57,960
now and people listening to this program, and even then

1530
01:38:58,000 --> 01:39:02,079
I would argue that probably wouldn't work completely well because obviously,

1531
01:39:02,279 --> 01:39:05,640
if somebody messes with either of your wives, you're gonna

1532
01:39:05,680 --> 01:39:08,640
take you're gonna throw hands, you're gonna do something, and

1533
01:39:08,640 --> 01:39:11,279
there's nothing to think about, there's nothing to regret. What

1534
01:39:11,319 --> 01:39:14,039
are you gonna regret? No, I protected my family. This

1535
01:39:14,159 --> 01:39:16,439
is my job. I'm a husband, I'm a father, I'm

1536
01:39:16,479 --> 01:39:20,000
a man. So okay, so first off, we cut right

1537
01:39:20,079 --> 01:39:23,119
through that. So if you might be fully justified and

1538
01:39:23,159 --> 01:39:26,640
why you're in prison, so that's fifty percent off of

1539
01:39:26,680 --> 01:39:31,520
your your self assessment anyway. And then even if you

1540
01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:35,760
aren't justified, okay, guy, guys with ri IQ and the listeners,

1541
01:39:35,840 --> 01:39:37,800
yeah you might, you might reflect and go, Okay, I

1542
01:39:37,800 --> 01:39:39,920
did something wrong and all that. But you don't need

1543
01:39:39,960 --> 01:39:42,199
prison to do that. You could just sit in the

1544
01:39:42,199 --> 01:39:45,119
back seat of a squad car and you'll go, man,

1545
01:39:45,159 --> 01:39:47,600
what I did was stupid. I can't believe I did that.

1546
01:39:47,640 --> 01:39:49,560
I shouldn't have drank so much, or I shouldn't let

1547
01:39:49,640 --> 01:39:52,720
him get to me. Whatever. You don't need prison. There's

1548
01:39:52,720 --> 01:39:55,239
an excellent book by a man named James Berry. He

1549
01:39:55,359 --> 01:39:59,239
was the last executioner. It's called My I Always Say

1550
01:39:59,760 --> 01:40:01,840
My Thoughts as an executioner or something. His name is

1551
01:40:01,880 --> 01:40:04,920
James Berry. If you look it up and it's it's excellent,

1552
01:40:05,600 --> 01:40:08,720
and he talks about how prison reform is absolutely and

1553
01:40:08,760 --> 01:40:11,720
the death penalty is absolutely necessary, but it needs to

1554
01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:15,479
be reworked because again, you're you're not really applying in

1555
01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:19,840
a way that's functioning properly. It's it's it's all backwards

1556
01:40:19,880 --> 01:40:22,479
and it's all outdated. And it doesn't. It doesn't align

1557
01:40:22,520 --> 01:40:25,920
with how most people, to bring your point d most

1558
01:40:25,960 --> 01:40:29,640
people operate. It just doesn't align with the actual operations

1559
01:40:29,640 --> 01:40:32,199
of the world, the way we do things, aligned with

1560
01:40:32,279 --> 01:40:35,640
as you pointed out, you know Quakers are already at

1561
01:40:36,000 --> 01:40:38,920
I'll be charitable. I won't say that they're weirdos or

1562
01:40:39,119 --> 01:40:41,600
or lunatics. I'll just say they'll be charitable and say

1563
01:40:41,720 --> 01:40:44,000
they don't think like most other people. They're a very

1564
01:40:44,119 --> 01:40:48,239
unique subset of a subset of people, a subset of

1565
01:40:48,279 --> 01:40:51,640
a subset, so you can't apply their standards to as

1566
01:40:51,680 --> 01:40:56,239
you said, Pete, you know, seventy plus nationalities, ethnicities would

1567
01:40:56,279 --> 01:40:59,319
have you in Rikers Island. It's just not going to work.

1568
01:40:59,640 --> 01:41:03,119
It just doesn't work. And when we go down to

1569
01:41:03,159 --> 01:41:05,680
the IQ, I want to say, the average black in

1570
01:41:05,720 --> 01:41:08,840
America's eighty five and the average Mestizo is eighty six

1571
01:41:09,279 --> 01:41:11,479
if I'm correct, I mean somebody in the chat, I'm

1572
01:41:11,520 --> 01:41:14,920
sure and the audience could double check my numbers. But

1573
01:41:14,920 --> 01:41:16,319
when you're dealing with it about.

1574
01:41:16,079 --> 01:41:21,000
Speaker 3: The Negroes and the the Mestizas are like ninety one,

1575
01:41:21,119 --> 01:41:24,079
I think, okay, okay, the ninety something like that.

1576
01:41:24,479 --> 01:41:28,079
Speaker 2: It's not high it's not significantly higher. And when you

1577
01:41:28,159 --> 01:41:31,039
add the fact there's probably ten times then than there

1578
01:41:31,079 --> 01:41:34,880
are blacks that we're still in trouble. But moving forward

1579
01:41:34,920 --> 01:41:37,880
to the point I'm making here, Like these people, you

1580
01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:40,239
can't let them sit in a box and think about

1581
01:41:40,239 --> 01:41:42,720
what they did, because instead of thinking about what they

1582
01:41:42,760 --> 01:41:44,880
did was wrong, they'll think about how they can do

1583
01:41:44,920 --> 01:41:47,279
it to get away with it next time. They're not

1584
01:41:47,359 --> 01:41:51,319
reflecting on their punishment. They're reflecting on how how they

1585
01:41:51,359 --> 01:41:55,319
got caught. So that's why corporal punishment needs to come

1586
01:41:55,359 --> 01:41:58,000
back again to kind of address your point D about

1587
01:41:58,000 --> 01:42:00,720
the whole Well, he was beaten for whistling a white woman.

1588
01:42:00,840 --> 01:42:03,000
It's like, well, because that's the only thing to understand.

1589
01:42:03,479 --> 01:42:05,279
I can't sit them in the back of the squad

1590
01:42:05,319 --> 01:42:07,760
car and let them think about it. It doesn't work. Again,

1591
01:42:07,880 --> 01:42:10,800
not to be flippant, but these are the people who

1592
01:42:11,000 --> 01:42:15,079
answer the question, but I had breakfast, but I did

1593
01:42:15,119 --> 01:42:18,479
eat breakfast, So how can you get them to reflect

1594
01:42:18,520 --> 01:42:21,319
on their their misdeeds? It doesn't work. You have to

1595
01:42:21,359 --> 01:42:25,479
corporally punish them. You have to bring back the stocks.

1596
01:42:27,039 --> 01:42:29,640
Speaker 3: Right, Well, if they're incapable of reflecting on like, how

1597
01:42:29,680 --> 01:42:31,760
would they feel if they hadn't on breakfast, they're certainly

1598
01:42:31,760 --> 01:42:35,159
not capable of reflecting on like how would my life

1599
01:42:35,159 --> 01:42:36,760
be different if I had made better choices?

1600
01:42:37,960 --> 01:42:38,159
Speaker 2: Right?

1601
01:42:38,239 --> 01:42:42,880
Speaker 3: And and you know, i'll i'll, I'll tuck out here

1602
01:42:42,920 --> 01:42:46,159
and admit some leftist stuff is true, Like there are

1603
01:42:46,800 --> 01:42:50,720
you know, structural problems that you know, the whole individual

1604
01:42:50,760 --> 01:42:54,439
is right wing libertarian nonsense of just like nah man,

1605
01:42:54,560 --> 01:42:58,039
Like if you grow up in an environment where it's

1606
01:42:58,079 --> 01:43:00,920
normative that uncles drink them and less their nieces like

1607
01:43:00,920 --> 01:43:05,319
on reservations, Like, there's no way you're not coming up

1608
01:43:05,520 --> 01:43:08,079
messed up out of that. Like I'm sorry to go. Yeah,

1609
01:43:08,119 --> 01:43:10,600
you know, you can't just like bootstrap your way into

1610
01:43:11,199 --> 01:43:15,520
into like being a functioning, healthy human being. I'm sorry,

1611
01:43:15,600 --> 01:43:18,279
Like it's just it's just not now. The question then

1612
01:43:18,319 --> 01:43:20,880
becomes is like how do how does the lighter society

1613
01:43:20,960 --> 01:43:25,159
deal with dysfunctional populations inside of it? You know inside

1614
01:43:25,359 --> 01:43:29,279
you're like, do you like encapsulate it and then cut

1615
01:43:29,319 --> 01:43:29,600
it out?

1616
01:43:29,920 --> 01:43:31,760
Speaker 1: Do you? Like what do you do?

1617
01:43:31,920 --> 01:43:34,960
Speaker 3: Like there's this this tumor in the body politic where

1618
01:43:36,279 --> 01:43:40,319
you know it's normative to like get really high and

1619
01:43:40,399 --> 01:43:44,720
hurt people or or drive drunk or like, you know,

1620
01:43:44,760 --> 01:43:49,399
mestizos love love child molestation, that's there. They're like that

1621
01:43:49,560 --> 01:43:51,520
and driving drunk. Those are their two favorite you know.

1622
01:43:53,000 --> 01:43:55,359
So yeah, what do you do with those people?

1623
01:43:55,880 --> 01:43:57,640
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1624
01:43:57,720 --> 01:43:57,880
Speaker 2: Right?

1625
01:43:57,920 --> 01:44:01,680
Speaker 3: And so like if that's the thing that they do, right,

1626
01:44:01,880 --> 01:44:04,119
just just like Jews and financial crime, like like if

1627
01:44:04,119 --> 01:44:06,159
those are things that they do, how do you deal

1628
01:44:06,159 --> 01:44:10,840
with that? And and naive bu Kelly, God bless him

1629
01:44:12,439 --> 01:44:18,840
the best president in the world right now, he actually

1630
01:44:18,920 --> 01:44:20,960
is dealing with reality in front of him. I can't

1631
01:44:20,960 --> 01:44:28,039
remember which king it is, but you know, someone was

1632
01:44:28,079 --> 01:44:32,640
like asking, I think the Austro Hungarian Emperor. I'm probably wrong,

1633
01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:36,800
you know, or maybe the Serbians is like, you know,

1634
01:44:38,239 --> 01:44:40,279
why don't you act more like the King of the Swedens?

1635
01:44:40,359 --> 01:44:41,600
Speaker 1: The Swedes? Who does this? This?

1636
01:44:41,600 --> 01:44:43,600
Speaker 3: This is when my people are Swedes will act like

1637
01:44:43,600 --> 01:44:44,439
the King of the Swedes?

1638
01:44:44,600 --> 01:44:45,920
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, now, you.

1639
01:44:45,960 --> 01:44:50,600
Speaker 3: Bukel understands like he's the president of L Salvador and

1640
01:44:50,640 --> 01:44:53,560
so he needs to treat them like L. Salvadorans, which

1641
01:44:53,640 --> 01:44:58,239
is say like, nah, bro, you got the fat the

1642
01:44:58,279 --> 01:45:02,560
face tattoo. Whether whether you're guilty or not, I'm going

1643
01:45:02,640 --> 01:45:05,159
to treat you like you act and you act like

1644
01:45:05,239 --> 01:45:07,439
you murder people for fun because you got the chair

1645
01:45:07,520 --> 01:45:10,520
drop tattoo on your face. Now, whether you did or not,

1646
01:45:11,279 --> 01:45:13,119
we'll leave that up to the courts to decide. But

1647
01:45:13,159 --> 01:45:16,399
in the meantime, go to jail.

1648
01:45:17,279 --> 01:45:19,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I want to bring I want to raise

1649
01:45:19,319 --> 01:45:21,479
a point here to your I want to raise a

1650
01:45:21,520 --> 01:45:23,840
point here to your your quote about the when I'm

1651
01:45:23,920 --> 01:45:26,199
king of the Swedes, I'm king of the Swedes, or

1652
01:45:26,359 --> 01:45:28,319
I'll treat my people like their swedes when I'm king

1653
01:45:28,359 --> 01:45:32,439
of the Swedes. Yep. What I like to bring them

1654
01:45:32,520 --> 01:45:36,000
up in times like this is that often and frequently

1655
01:45:36,079 --> 01:45:41,359
misquoted passage from The Prince, where Machiavelli writes when in

1656
01:45:41,399 --> 01:45:43,880
the question of whether it is better to be loved

1657
01:45:43,960 --> 01:45:46,800
or feared, everybody immediately jumps to, oh, it's better to

1658
01:45:46,840 --> 01:45:50,600
be feared than loved. Well, that's not actually the real quote. Yeah,

1659
01:45:50,640 --> 01:45:52,720
the real quote is in the question of whether it

1660
01:45:52,800 --> 01:45:54,800
is better to be loved or feared, the answer is,

1661
01:45:54,840 --> 01:45:58,039
of course, it is best to be both. It is

1662
01:45:58,119 --> 01:46:00,960
best to be both. So to go back to the

1663
01:46:01,000 --> 01:46:04,239
point that you were raising there, like d you're a father,

1664
01:46:04,319 --> 01:46:07,079
I'm not doxing anything about that. You've made that publicly known.

1665
01:46:07,760 --> 01:46:10,760
If you really love your children, you're going to treat

1666
01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:13,840
them like who they are, like who their father is,

1667
01:46:13,880 --> 01:46:16,079
who their mother is, what they are the product of.

1668
01:46:16,439 --> 01:46:19,199
You're not going to raise them like there's somebody else's kids.

1669
01:46:19,279 --> 01:46:24,199
Why Because your kids have specific needs, respond to specific things,

1670
01:46:24,720 --> 01:46:30,319
desire certain things, and need certain concessions that other children don't,

1671
01:46:30,680 --> 01:46:34,079
and those other children need need different things than your children.

1672
01:46:34,359 --> 01:46:37,479
It's not a matter of mo racism. It's not a

1673
01:46:37,520 --> 01:46:40,800
matter of hate. If anything, it's a matter of love.

1674
01:46:40,960 --> 01:46:43,960
You understand the people that are in your charge, that

1675
01:46:44,039 --> 01:46:48,880
are under your care, and you address their needs, their behaviors,

1676
01:46:49,239 --> 01:46:52,039
and you discipline them in a way that will turn

1677
01:46:52,079 --> 01:46:56,479
them into the best possible citizens of your household. Does

1678
01:46:56,520 --> 01:47:00,000
that make sense? Do you see where I'm going with them? Absolutely?

1679
01:47:00,119 --> 01:47:05,399
Speaker 3: And not only that, but hey, guys, as how's it going.

1680
01:47:05,800 --> 01:47:07,920
We're just talking about talking about Pete's trip to a

1681
01:47:07,920 --> 01:47:08,760
first world country?

1682
01:47:11,479 --> 01:47:14,159
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and in fact this is.

1683
01:47:16,439 --> 01:47:20,840
Speaker 3: Okay, So, without getting too doxy, some of my children

1684
01:47:20,880 --> 01:47:25,439
are more talented than others at certain academic stuff. Okay,

1685
01:47:27,199 --> 01:47:30,399
My expectation for the child who's really good at, say, math,

1686
01:47:31,119 --> 01:47:35,319
is that they get an A in math, and that's

1687
01:47:35,359 --> 01:47:37,720
the expectation, and if they don't have that, then there's

1688
01:47:37,720 --> 01:47:40,000
consequences because I know they have the talent and if

1689
01:47:40,039 --> 01:47:44,720
they're not getting it, then they're just not working hard

1690
01:47:44,720 --> 01:47:49,000
and they're being lazy. And I might have another kid

1691
01:47:49,000 --> 01:47:52,439
who struggles with math, and if they get a B,

1692
01:47:52,680 --> 01:48:00,640
that's like good effort for them, right, yes, And if

1693
01:48:00,680 --> 01:48:06,199
you treat every child like they're like a naturally talented

1694
01:48:06,239 --> 01:48:11,000
athlete who's also very smart and good looking and sociable,

1695
01:48:13,439 --> 01:48:22,239
then you're you're harming those children because maybe they're not sociable,

1696
01:48:22,680 --> 01:48:28,239
maybe they're nerdy, maybe they don't like you know, you're

1697
01:48:28,520 --> 01:48:32,319
the responsible party. You have to act and treat each

1698
01:48:32,399 --> 01:48:36,319
child differently based on what their strengths and weaknesses are.

1699
01:48:36,479 --> 01:48:41,159
And if you treat them all the same, right, you're

1700
01:48:41,399 --> 01:48:46,079
you're going to retard the the talented ones and like

1701
01:48:47,800 --> 01:48:50,800
give the ones that aren't talented complexes because you're like,

1702
01:48:50,800 --> 01:48:53,600
well why aren't you know, why aren't you running the

1703
01:48:53,680 --> 01:48:55,880
hundred and you know eleven seconds? Well, because I'm not

1704
01:48:55,920 --> 01:48:58,960
good enough, Like I'm not naturally a sprinter, so why

1705
01:48:59,000 --> 01:49:00,520
why are you holding me to It's you know, high

1706
01:49:00,600 --> 01:49:06,760
level sprinter standard. It's and in a similar fashion. Right,

1707
01:49:09,079 --> 01:49:12,800
if Naobu Kelly was like, in El Salvador, we're going

1708
01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:16,039
to change the economy so that everyone is a computer

1709
01:49:16,159 --> 01:49:21,439
engineer and we are going to make ourselves the tech

1710
01:49:21,520 --> 01:49:25,920
hub of the twenty first century, people be like, are

1711
01:49:25,960 --> 01:49:29,399
you high? You're dealing with El Salvadorans man like, they're not.

1712
01:49:29,640 --> 01:49:35,079
They're not going to do that right, right, and expecting

1713
01:49:35,119 --> 01:49:39,359
them to do that is stupid now.

1714
01:49:40,640 --> 01:49:43,119
Speaker 1: And one thing I will say is is that it's

1715
01:49:43,159 --> 01:49:47,000
it's more. You can talk about that easier down there

1716
01:49:48,880 --> 01:49:54,319
amongst as long as you're not near the the academic class.

1717
01:49:54,479 --> 01:49:56,479
Because yeah, I went to a museum and I got

1718
01:49:56,479 --> 01:50:02,039
to hear from some young, young kids who spoke perfect English.

1719
01:50:02,079 --> 01:50:04,960
Work at the museum, YadA YadA would explain exhibits to

1720
01:50:05,000 --> 01:50:10,920
you and everything you know about oh the the the poor, unfortunate,

1721
01:50:11,319 --> 01:50:15,199
innocent souls they got, you know, swept up in these

1722
01:50:15,319 --> 01:50:21,479
I mean, it's no one is your shit libs that

1723
01:50:21,600 --> 01:50:25,640
we have here who would scream no, no. Everyone can

1724
01:50:25,640 --> 01:50:30,800
be an astronaut, everyone can be a rocket scientist, everyone

1725
01:50:30,840 --> 01:50:33,800
could be You're just he's not going to listen to that.

1726
01:50:34,439 --> 01:50:38,560
And the culture there is leaning towards Yeah, we're not

1727
01:50:38,600 --> 01:50:41,399
going to listen to that. We're not going to get

1728
01:50:41,479 --> 01:50:44,880
out of what we were and get to be, you know,

1729
01:50:44,960 --> 01:50:47,319
a country that people actually want to come to, or

1730
01:50:47,399 --> 01:50:49,439
businesses want to come to, whatever they want to do.

1731
01:50:49,479 --> 01:50:54,159
Hopefully they don't turn out like Ireland did. You're going

1732
01:50:54,239 --> 01:50:57,439
to have to You're gonna have to squash that ship

1733
01:50:57,479 --> 01:50:59,840
when people start saying it, because that's the kind of

1734
01:50:59,840 --> 01:51:00,920
sh they'll say.

1735
01:51:00,720 --> 01:51:04,840
Speaker 3: Here, yeah, well, and and not only that, but like

1736
01:51:06,039 --> 01:51:08,199
to to talk about something. You know, we all four

1737
01:51:08,239 --> 01:51:12,439
of us participated in the Race warn High School series? Right,

1738
01:51:13,720 --> 01:51:16,439
how how messed up as American education? Because we just

1739
01:51:16,479 --> 01:51:20,399
can't admit that not everyone is supposed to go to college?

1740
01:51:21,199 --> 01:51:21,399
Speaker 2: Right?

1741
01:51:21,640 --> 01:51:21,880
Speaker 1: You know?

1742
01:51:22,000 --> 01:51:26,960
Speaker 3: In in El Salvador, they'll be like, look, man, you

1743
01:51:27,039 --> 01:51:30,880
hate school, Like, yes, I hate school? You love working

1744
01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:33,000
on engines? Like yes, I love working on engines.

1745
01:51:33,479 --> 01:51:37,640
Speaker 1: Okay? Can you balance your checkbook? Yeah? I can.

1746
01:51:38,159 --> 01:51:40,720
Speaker 3: Can you can you do enough basic math to like

1747
01:51:41,720 --> 01:51:44,640
howky the gear issues need to for your for you know,

1748
01:51:44,720 --> 01:51:45,680
messing around with engines?

1749
01:51:45,920 --> 01:51:46,119
Speaker 2: Yes?

1750
01:51:46,159 --> 01:51:46,520
Speaker 1: I can.

1751
01:51:47,560 --> 01:51:50,720
Speaker 3: Can you write a coherent sentence? Can you can you write?

1752
01:51:50,760 --> 01:51:53,439
You know, write well enough to conduct daily business. Yes

1753
01:51:53,479 --> 01:51:58,800
I can. All right, here's an apprenticeship for we're you know,

1754
01:51:58,920 --> 01:52:01,680
working on engines. Go work at the garage. They'll pay

1755
01:52:01,680 --> 01:52:05,560
you and you'll get you know, high school credits for that.

1756
01:52:06,159 --> 01:52:07,520
I don't know if they're doing that in a Salvador,

1757
01:52:07,560 --> 01:52:09,000
but that's the sort of thing that they should be doing.

1758
01:52:09,640 --> 01:52:14,560
You know where they did that Germany, Germany, Prussia.

1759
01:52:14,960 --> 01:52:17,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they tried to export that over here,

1760
01:52:18,359 --> 01:52:22,119
and well, why wasn't that going to work here? Because

1761
01:52:22,159 --> 01:52:25,439
you don't have the coherent culture or people are going

1762
01:52:25,479 --> 01:52:27,800
to be like, yeah, I want to work to make

1763
01:52:27,840 --> 01:52:32,279
the country better. No, I want We've been so we've

1764
01:52:32,279 --> 01:52:37,560
been so hyper brainwashed by individualism. No, I need to

1765
01:52:37,600 --> 01:52:40,079
be a scientist, I need to be rich. I need

1766
01:52:40,119 --> 01:52:44,159
to be a lawyer, I need to be a doctor. Well, well, no,

1767
01:52:44,359 --> 01:52:47,840
I mean that's what adherent culture does. Well that's true.

1768
01:52:47,840 --> 01:52:52,039
But also in the United States, right the second, I mean,

1769
01:52:52,640 --> 01:52:56,039
we we tend to forget this, but you know, in

1770
01:52:56,119 --> 01:53:00,840
nineteen fifty seven, the United States actually cared what the

1771
01:53:00,840 --> 01:53:04,279
global because of the Cold War. The you know, racial

1772
01:53:04,279 --> 01:53:06,800
diversity in America was the stick to beat America with.

1773
01:53:07,720 --> 01:53:10,439
And if if we'd actually done the Prussian education thing

1774
01:53:10,479 --> 01:53:14,239
and didn't be like, look, you know ninety five percent.

1775
01:53:14,600 --> 01:53:18,279
I think you mentioned this on Jason Show, Charles, everyone

1776
01:53:18,319 --> 01:53:20,680
should go check that out. Our friend Jason Marrinchick had

1777
01:53:20,760 --> 01:53:21,640
had Charles on it.

1778
01:53:21,520 --> 01:53:27,520
Speaker 3: Was a really good episode, like four percent or less

1779
01:53:27,760 --> 01:53:31,479
of of the black people would be in medical school

1780
01:53:31,479 --> 01:53:32,800
that are presently in medical.

1781
01:53:32,520 --> 01:53:35,039
Speaker 1: School or something like that. It's it's it's less than

1782
01:53:35,079 --> 01:53:38,640
ten percent for sure, right we can. I heard I

1783
01:53:38,680 --> 01:53:45,399
heard a number on on a podcast. It was it

1784
01:53:45,479 --> 01:53:47,920
might have been Scott Adams was talking about it where

1785
01:53:47,920 --> 01:53:50,720
he was saying that if if it was purely on

1786
01:53:50,880 --> 01:53:55,720
merit point in zero, it's zero point five percent of

1787
01:53:55,760 --> 01:53:58,439
the medical school of people accepted to medical school in

1788
01:53:58,439 --> 01:53:59,520
this country would be black.

1789
01:54:00,159 --> 01:54:02,479
Speaker 3: Okay, I might have been someone something I heard from you, Pete.

1790
01:54:02,520 --> 01:54:06,600
Speaker 1: I sorry, um okay, I mean it's it's an insane

1791
01:54:06,720 --> 01:54:10,119
number that you know. It's like you hear it and

1792
01:54:10,560 --> 01:54:13,000
you cringe, You're like, holy shit.

1793
01:54:14,920 --> 01:54:18,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, and that's that's probably accurate.

1794
01:54:19,640 --> 01:54:22,079
Speaker 2: To step back to your Pete, your point, Pete about

1795
01:54:22,079 --> 01:54:23,640
the whole Well, I want to be a lawyer, I

1796
01:54:23,680 --> 01:54:27,159
want to be a scientist. I kind of I kind

1797
01:54:27,159 --> 01:54:30,199
of think you're actually even being charitable with that, because

1798
01:54:30,239 --> 01:54:32,760
as I talked, as I spoke with millennial woes for

1799
01:54:32,920 --> 01:54:37,359
millennial I mentioned, I mentioned that America had devolved due

1800
01:54:37,359 --> 01:54:42,479
to it's probably due to its Moloch worshiping small segment

1801
01:54:42,479 --> 01:54:47,039
of population that just just got focused hyper They turned

1802
01:54:47,039 --> 01:54:51,399
individualism into just hyper greed, and it's just everybody wants

1803
01:54:51,439 --> 01:54:53,199
to be rich. I want to be an influencer. I

1804
01:54:53,239 --> 01:54:54,840
want to be wealthy. I want to be rich, Like

1805
01:54:55,119 --> 01:54:57,640
I would actually kind of prefer if they just wanted

1806
01:54:57,640 --> 01:55:00,920
to be lawyers or scientists, because hey, I want to

1807
01:55:01,119 --> 01:55:02,880
I want to help people, or hey I want to

1808
01:55:02,880 --> 01:55:05,319
cure the sick, or I want to I want to

1809
01:55:05,319 --> 01:55:08,199
help people from losing their homes against you know, the

1810
01:55:08,239 --> 01:55:13,680
abuses of imminent domain laws or corporate rapine, corporate culture.

1811
01:55:13,880 --> 01:55:16,479
But no, it's not it's just I want to be rich.

1812
01:55:16,720 --> 01:55:18,279
I want to be rich. I want to be rich.

1813
01:55:18,319 --> 01:55:20,920
It's all about me. It's it's going from the land

1814
01:55:20,960 --> 01:55:23,159
of the free, home of the brave, to the land

1815
01:55:23,199 --> 01:55:25,880
of the me, home of the slave. It's and it's

1816
01:55:25,960 --> 01:55:30,560
just tiresome. It's all tiresome. So yeah, I agree with

1817
01:55:30,600 --> 01:55:33,439
your point. I just wish it was even as altruistic

1818
01:55:33,479 --> 01:55:36,000
as as what you painted it as. I sadly think

1819
01:55:36,000 --> 01:55:37,319
it's even bleaker.

1820
01:55:36,920 --> 01:55:42,640
Speaker 1: Than that, Jose I was saying that. I started off

1821
01:55:42,680 --> 01:55:46,880
talking about how, you know, obviously in the poorer neighborhoods

1822
01:55:46,880 --> 01:55:51,039
and the barrios, which was really MS thirteen's stomping ground,

1823
01:55:51,079 --> 01:55:54,960
where they were just shaking down businesses and things like that.

1824
01:55:55,359 --> 01:55:58,720
You know, now they have armed they have armed security,

1825
01:55:58,720 --> 01:56:01,640
they have civil guard, and they have military. But not

1826
01:56:01,760 --> 01:56:05,600
just there, it's everywhere. It's like, I mean, it's a

1827
01:56:05,640 --> 01:56:08,239
show of force. It's a fuck around and find out

1828
01:56:08,279 --> 01:56:11,520
Look what we Look what we accomplished, Look what it

1829
01:56:11,600 --> 01:56:14,800
took to accomplish this, and we're not going to let

1830
01:56:14,800 --> 01:56:18,079
this ever happen again. So that's sort of how we

1831
01:56:18,159 --> 01:56:18,920
got off on this.

1832
01:56:21,319 --> 01:56:26,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, I am fascinated by the case of El Salvador

1833
01:56:28,399 --> 01:56:32,560
goes to show that if you actually have the right

1834
01:56:32,680 --> 01:56:37,479
type of leadership, you can make things happen, even in

1835
01:56:37,520 --> 01:56:41,880
a country that is as like demographically and historically wretched

1836
01:56:41,920 --> 01:56:45,560
as Salvador has been, that you can make a concrete

1837
01:56:45,640 --> 01:56:49,640
progress on that. I wanted to also double down on

1838
01:56:49,640 --> 01:56:53,479
one point that Charles made. I agree that now things

1839
01:56:53,680 --> 01:56:59,760
have evolved in Western societies where people's aspirations are just

1840
01:56:59,800 --> 01:57:03,640
to be social media influencers and other people that just

1841
01:57:04,319 --> 01:57:09,359
accumulate social media cloud as opposed to providing productive goods

1842
01:57:09,560 --> 01:57:13,520
and services for a society, much less trying to make

1843
01:57:13,640 --> 01:57:19,760
society prosperous and for current and future generations. It's just

1844
01:57:20,560 --> 01:57:26,960
pure service for mammon and accumulating social media likes and

1845
01:57:27,000 --> 01:57:27,880
dopamine hits.

1846
01:57:31,119 --> 01:57:37,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, the where was I going to go with that? Well,

1847
01:57:37,520 --> 01:57:39,640
what I was going to do is I wanted to

1848
01:57:39,800 --> 01:57:45,800
transition to talking about the you know, basically what society

1849
01:57:45,840 --> 01:57:49,640
would become in the in the absence of these people,

1850
01:57:49,760 --> 01:57:53,520
to what you do with these people, because you know,

1851
01:57:53,600 --> 01:57:58,039
it's not only the fact that boot Kelly was you know,

1852
01:57:58,239 --> 01:58:00,319
just had the will to do all this, had the

1853
01:58:00,319 --> 01:58:03,840
will to defy the judges and had the will to

1854
01:58:04,560 --> 01:58:08,039
basically take the military into courts and be like I'm

1855
01:58:08,039 --> 01:58:12,119
in charge, I'm sorry, you're we're doing this and there's

1856
01:58:12,159 --> 01:58:14,800
nothing you can do about it. It's also the fact

1857
01:58:14,840 --> 01:58:18,159
that he had to have someplace to put these people,

1858
01:58:19,000 --> 01:58:25,319
and you know, it goes beyond the prison that he

1859
01:58:25,479 --> 01:58:30,119
set up, the Seacot Prison, which is you know, you're

1860
01:58:30,159 --> 01:58:34,199
never going to see the outside again. You know, that's

1861
01:58:34,239 --> 01:58:36,640
the maximum security where he put the absolute worst of

1862
01:58:36,640 --> 01:58:41,199
the worst. He's actually set up a prison system outside

1863
01:58:41,239 --> 01:58:44,159
of that with the people who aren't you know, don't

1864
01:58:44,159 --> 01:58:46,960
deserve life in prison or really what we know what

1865
01:58:47,000 --> 01:58:52,600
they really deserve where they have to they're rebuilding the country.

1866
01:58:53,079 --> 01:58:55,159
And they're not only rebuilding the country, he's kind of

1867
01:58:55,159 --> 01:58:59,279
forcing them to rebuild themselves because you know, a lot

1868
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of these people who are in there, not all of

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01:59:01,880 --> 01:59:05,239
them or gangsters and career criminals, a lot of them

1870
01:59:05,319 --> 01:59:09,960
are professionals who fell into some shit because that happens.

1871
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It happens in every society that has where you know,

1872
01:59:13,279 --> 01:59:16,079
there's organized crime and there's crime and there's money to

1873
01:59:16,079 --> 01:59:19,960
be made in a black market or whatever. So yeah,

1874
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I mean, I think that's that's another conversation we have

1875
01:59:23,760 --> 01:59:27,520
to have because our prison systems are bullshit. I mean,

1876
01:59:27,800 --> 01:59:33,079
it's Alabama and Mississippi have the worst. There's half these

1877
01:59:33,119 --> 01:59:35,760
people probably shouldn't even be in prison, and the ones

1878
01:59:35,760 --> 01:59:40,079
that are in there shouldn't be anywhere. You're mixing people

1879
01:59:40,119 --> 01:59:44,560
who don't belong together. And also you have a fucking

1880
01:59:44,800 --> 01:59:50,000
workforce that could be rebuilding certain things, not just picking

1881
01:59:50,119 --> 01:59:52,359
trash up off the friggin side of the road.

1882
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of things in ournity of the

1883
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American system, yesion of the American system. We we and because

1884
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we because we have this insane devotion to equality and

1885
02:00:05,640 --> 02:00:10,479
a few other issues, right, we have. No, we can't

1886
02:00:10,479 --> 02:00:13,680
be realistic about the sociopathic crime problem we have where

1887
02:00:13,720 --> 02:00:16,119
we have you know, this dedicated you know, this small

1888
02:00:16,159 --> 02:00:23,159
group of just animals really that shouldn't even really be

1889
02:00:23,199 --> 02:00:26,039
in prison. They should they you know, they should have

1890
02:00:26,119 --> 02:00:29,000
been you know, you light it, you light a nun

1891
02:00:29,079 --> 02:00:31,159
on fire, You shouldn't be in jail for thirty years.

1892
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You should just be you know, given your last rights

1893
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and from neck till dead. Right, But we have that problem.

1894
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And then we have the guy who couldn't meet his

1895
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child support because there's no place in the economy for

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a guy who's you know, fundamentally decent but kind of stupid, right,

1897
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And we have a lot of those people of all

1898
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different types. Now we have more of those people because

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of the racial makeup of the United States of America.

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But you know, like, what are you going to do?

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We criminalize, not being wealthy, right, you can't pay your taxes,

1902
02:01:09,000 --> 02:01:11,119
so we're just going to throw you in jail. And

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you're in the same jail as you know, guy who

1904
02:01:15,000 --> 02:01:17,800
lit none on fire. And we can't make the distinction

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between a guy who missed the child support payments because

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there's no jobs available for a guy with a you know,

1907
02:01:22,640 --> 02:01:29,760
ninety three IQ with a drinking problem, and a guy who.

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02:01:31,920 --> 02:01:33,880
Speaker 2: I would say that we can make the distinction, we

1909
02:01:33,960 --> 02:01:35,920
just don't want to and we're not allowed to because

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we're going to point out maybe certain demographic differences. We

1911
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don't want to point that out because that would be mean,

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that would be mustache man. But move but to still

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move on with your point, still go alongside your point. There.

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One of the things that drives me crazy about the

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understanding of criminal justice is people think the death penalty

1916
02:01:58,560 --> 02:02:00,560
is for vengeance. It's not for engines, so it's a

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real least that's not what it should be for. And

1918
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they forget about really what its purpose is, and that

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is to clean the gene pool. You're throwing chlorine in

1920
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the gene pool and to clear these people out. Like

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we all have to remember that. One of the reasons

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02:02:13,560 --> 02:02:17,520
European society became more peaceful. Is because we killed a

1923
02:02:17,560 --> 02:02:20,319
whole bunch of our own that were problems. Like you said,

1924
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d we hung them by the neck till dead. What

1925
02:02:22,520 --> 02:02:24,920
did they do in the earthquake and Lisbon in the

1926
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sixteenth century would they do to looters day? Would the

1927
02:02:28,239 --> 02:02:30,359
king say? He said, hang them all on the hillsides.

1928
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You can see everybody, so we can know what you're

1929
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not allowed to do. It's not really about vengeance. It's

1930
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I would argue, it's not even really about justice. It's

1931
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about cleaning the gene pool. So we don't have this

1932
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problem any longer. But you're not allowed to talk like that.

1933
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That's eugenesis, that's mustache man. So now we throw everybody

1934
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in the same rape cage, which, by the way, is

1935
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an interesting point of American criminal justice history. Do you

1936
02:02:54,279 --> 02:02:58,680
know why organizations like the Aryan Brotherhood and white nationalism

1937
02:02:58,800 --> 02:03:01,079
became a big thing in and would you care any

1938
02:03:01,079 --> 02:03:03,119
of you care to guess why that became a big

1939
02:03:03,159 --> 02:03:03,840
thing in prison?

1940
02:03:04,680 --> 02:03:04,840
Speaker 5: Oh?

1941
02:03:04,880 --> 02:03:07,800
Speaker 3: I know exactly why. Because it was the only way

1942
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for them not to get beaten to death. Yeah, it

1943
02:03:09,600 --> 02:03:13,159
was the only way for the white guys to get extorted,

1944
02:03:13,600 --> 02:03:15,720
beaten to death or sexually assaulted.

1945
02:03:16,039 --> 02:03:21,640
Speaker 2: To survive non penalty sentences. Yes, yes, because any sentence

1946
02:03:21,760 --> 02:03:26,359
was becoming in the sixties and seventies effectively a death sentence,

1947
02:03:26,640 --> 02:03:30,439
whether it was given by the courts or not, was irrelevant.

1948
02:03:30,920 --> 02:03:34,760
The other inmates of color were going to kill them.

1949
02:03:35,239 --> 02:03:38,359
So therein was founded the Aryan Brotherhood and a lot

1950
02:03:38,359 --> 02:03:42,079
of other the white nationalist prison gangs. So yeah, we

1951
02:03:42,279 --> 02:03:46,359
just throw these people in the same rape cage and say, oh, okay, oh.

1952
02:03:46,359 --> 02:03:48,800
And also, while you're being raped, think about what you

1953
02:03:48,840 --> 02:03:52,760
did wrong. It's just it's pure insanity. And by the way,

1954
02:03:52,800 --> 02:03:54,800
the name of the book I just remembered, It's My

1955
02:03:54,960 --> 02:03:59,199
Experiences as an Executioner by James Barry. Also, I highly

1956
02:03:59,239 --> 02:04:02,520
recommend the book The Truth about Lynching in the South.

1957
02:04:02,880 --> 02:04:06,159
Both of those books are our public domain and you

1958
02:04:06,159 --> 02:04:08,479
can find them with an easy Internet search. Please, Jose,

1959
02:04:08,600 --> 02:04:09,880
it looked like you were going to jump in by

1960
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all means.

1961
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Speaker 1: Well, well, let me just add something real quick, Jose.

1962
02:04:14,760 --> 02:04:20,279
And not only the public is taught to joke about

1963
02:04:20,319 --> 02:04:28,960
men being raped by other men. It's a punchline. Yeah,

1964
02:04:29,720 --> 02:04:31,680
and I don't mean to minimize it. I thank you

1965
02:04:31,720 --> 02:04:33,880
Pete for saying that I really don't mean to diminish it.

1966
02:04:33,920 --> 02:04:36,079
Speaker 2: Thank you. That was not meant to be a punchline

1967
02:04:36,079 --> 02:04:38,560
for me, and I appreciate you saying that, thank you,

1968
02:04:38,640 --> 02:04:41,199
because it was not at all meant to be a punchline.

1969
02:04:41,279 --> 02:04:43,920
It really wasn't. It was meant to say, look at

1970
02:04:43,920 --> 02:04:47,760
how awful this is, and we still expect you Okay, yeah, okay,

1971
02:04:48,000 --> 02:04:49,880
but I do appreciate it. Yeah, we're like no, this

1972
02:04:50,000 --> 02:04:54,760
is to say, yeah, okay, continue please, I'm sorry, are you?

1973
02:04:54,840 --> 02:04:56,760
Speaker 6: Oh? A few years ago, I used to watch some

1974
02:04:56,840 --> 02:05:01,680
of these prison channels on YouTube, and what I gathered

1975
02:05:01,680 --> 02:05:05,439
from a lot of that was that the whole prison

1976
02:05:05,520 --> 02:05:09,159
system in many ways for was almost like kind of

1977
02:05:09,199 --> 02:05:11,880
like a now has like degenerated into like a reward

1978
02:05:12,119 --> 02:05:14,600
for a lot of these likesfunctional criminals, because they can

1979
02:05:14,640 --> 02:05:19,399
just like go commit any type of like act of

1980
02:05:19,479 --> 02:05:22,199
violence and then go like straight into a prison where

1981
02:05:22,199 --> 02:05:26,960
there's already like a racial hierarchy where they'll just like

1982
02:05:27,079 --> 02:05:29,279
thrive in and then like take it out on like

1983
02:05:29,399 --> 02:05:32,359
other like white prisoners, and then like if they get released,

1984
02:05:32,399 --> 02:05:34,960
sometimes they get so used to the prison system that

1985
02:05:34,960 --> 02:05:37,920
they like instantly commit a crime just get back in

1986
02:05:38,079 --> 02:05:40,600
it kind of like doesn't serve a purpose. Like I

1987
02:05:40,640 --> 02:05:44,239
actually agree with Charles that the death penalty really is

1988
02:05:44,560 --> 02:05:48,840
a genetic cleansing mechanism that should be used a lot more.

1989
02:05:48,840 --> 02:05:51,640
And that's why I like, I say, like more more

1990
02:05:51,720 --> 02:05:56,640
mass executions as opposed to mass incarceration. And also the

1991
02:05:57,000 --> 02:06:00,479
racial aspect of the prison system is very instructive. It's

1992
02:06:00,640 --> 02:06:05,399
the most extreme form to demonstrate like like the dangers

1993
02:06:05,439 --> 02:06:09,279
of like multi racialism. Like it just goes to show

1994
02:06:09,319 --> 02:06:12,439
like you have to like band together or you will die.

1995
02:06:12,800 --> 02:06:16,600
And unfortunately, that reality of the prison system, it's become

1996
02:06:16,640 --> 02:06:22,520
an it's becoming increasingly the reality of the open airess

1997
02:06:22,920 --> 02:06:27,079
air prison that is multi racial USA these days.

1998
02:06:28,199 --> 02:06:30,560
Speaker 1: Let me let me do this, and I know that

1999
02:06:30,600 --> 02:06:33,520
this thing from the what just one thing wrote the

2000
02:06:33,720 --> 02:06:36,560
real quick is sure people are interested in the theoretical

2001
02:06:36,680 --> 02:06:38,079
justifications for the death penalty.

2002
02:06:38,119 --> 02:06:44,079
Speaker 3: I can highly recommend philosopher Professor Edward Faser F E. S. E. R.

2003
02:06:45,399 --> 02:06:48,399
Edward Faser's book, By Bloodshall His Man Be Shed? It's

2004
02:06:48,439 --> 02:06:52,239
a it's a comprehensive view of the philosophical underpinnings of

2005
02:06:52,239 --> 02:06:54,039
the death penalty. And I can just say that it's

2006
02:06:54,279 --> 02:06:57,560
not only one hundred percent justified, it's I think obligatory.

2007
02:07:00,119 --> 02:07:02,640
Speaker 1: Let me let me share this and you know, I'll

2008
02:07:03,560 --> 02:07:08,560
I'm gonna share screen. And I'll preface this by saying, yes,

2009
02:07:08,680 --> 02:07:11,560
this is this is a white kid who was allowed

2010
02:07:11,600 --> 02:07:14,760
to basically go into the El Salvadorian prisons and do

2011
02:07:14,840 --> 02:07:18,359
a do a quick documentary. And it could it could

2012
02:07:18,359 --> 02:07:22,520
look like a Potemkin village, it could look like propaganda,

2013
02:07:22,640 --> 02:07:25,600
which it probably is, but it also gives you an

2014
02:07:25,680 --> 02:07:32,439
idea of exactly that bou Kelly is not only about, Okay,

2015
02:07:32,560 --> 02:07:34,760
we need to clean up the streets. No, we need

2016
02:07:34,760 --> 02:07:40,479
to rebuild this country. And well what we have a

2017
02:07:40,520 --> 02:07:45,600
friggin workforce that's that's available to rebuild it. So let

2018
02:07:45,600 --> 02:07:49,960
me share this with you guys, and I think that

2019
02:07:50,119 --> 02:07:52,600
you will. You know, we'll play it a little bit

2020
02:07:52,600 --> 02:07:55,600
and you can tell me to stop whenever. All right,

2021
02:07:55,800 --> 02:08:01,399
So one second here, all right, I'm gonna start this

2022
02:08:01,520 --> 02:08:03,439
and just you get the idea right off the show.

2023
02:08:05,359 --> 02:08:08,319
Speaker 5: This was Nelsava prison and this is one Now, how

2024
02:08:08,319 --> 02:08:10,239
does a prison go from being gay controlled to now

2025
02:08:10,279 --> 02:08:12,439
a prison where the prisoners themselves are helping to rebuild

2026
02:08:12,479 --> 02:08:14,960
the country of El Salvador. Today, I'm picking you inside

2027
02:08:14,960 --> 02:08:17,680
of the world's most unconventional and most productive prison in

2028
02:08:17,720 --> 02:08:20,159
the entire world. Some of these prisoners you will meet

2029
02:08:20,159 --> 02:08:23,840
inside of this video will become future engineers, construction workers, partners, farmers.

2030
02:08:23,840 --> 02:08:26,000
These prisoners are quite literally helping to build a better

2031
02:08:26,039 --> 02:08:28,520
El Savor. This is all because the President Naima Kelly's

2032
02:08:28,640 --> 02:08:31,680
plan called plant Center Osio, which translates to plan of

2033
02:08:31,720 --> 02:08:33,680
no leisure for prisons are typically locked away inside of

2034
02:08:33,720 --> 02:08:35,720
prison self serving their time. The prison's year in El

2035
02:08:35,760 --> 02:08:38,359
Salvador are working twenty four to seven to help build

2036
02:08:38,359 --> 02:08:40,199
a better El Salvador. El sald has gone through it.

2037
02:08:40,279 --> 02:08:43,119
Speaker 1: Obviously, I sped up the video just for anybody who's wondering.

2038
02:08:43,880 --> 02:08:46,159
Speaker 3: And actually he makes a great point that the president

2039
02:08:46,239 --> 02:08:52,880
has God go ahead the good journals. Well, the president

2040
02:08:54,159 --> 02:08:57,960
President Boukelly said in one of his addresses, like last year,

2041
02:08:59,399 --> 02:09:02,479
why should people who's the average El Salvador and whose

2042
02:09:03,520 --> 02:09:07,640
meals are tortillas and rice and beans, why should they

2043
02:09:07,640 --> 02:09:14,119
pay for prisoners to have meat? Yeah, and you know,

2044
02:09:14,880 --> 02:09:18,800
mercy to the dealty is injustice to the innocent, and

2045
02:09:19,560 --> 02:09:21,720
the idea that we should have this huge population of

2046
02:09:21,760 --> 02:09:25,479
people who are idle and consuming nothing or and doing

2047
02:09:25,479 --> 02:09:28,159
nothing but sitting in their prison cells is ridiculous, like

2048
02:09:28,560 --> 02:09:31,840
they should work well. Also kind of goes back to

2049
02:09:31,920 --> 02:09:35,000
your point earlier regarding their you know, there are people

2050
02:09:35,000 --> 02:09:37,920
in there that are just in there because of you know,

2051
02:09:38,479 --> 02:09:40,239
didn't pay child support or whatever.

2052
02:09:40,399 --> 02:09:43,520
Speaker 2: Things like that. Now, maybe not this specific prison per se,

2053
02:09:43,640 --> 02:09:46,079
but I'm talking about the overarching plan of no leisure

2054
02:09:46,520 --> 02:09:49,600
to use his and also to use Pete's point earlier,

2055
02:09:49,600 --> 02:09:51,880
that some people you know are in there because they

2056
02:09:51,920 --> 02:09:53,960
just got caught up in things and it's a very

2057
02:09:53,960 --> 02:09:56,720
corrupt society that was getting cleaned up and they got

2058
02:09:56,800 --> 02:10:00,640
drawn in. But now you're actually giving them something to do.

2059
02:10:01,600 --> 02:10:06,119
Remember the idle hands or the Devil's workshop. So's you're

2060
02:10:06,119 --> 02:10:08,359
giving these people something to do, and you're giving them

2061
02:10:08,359 --> 02:10:10,960
something to work towards. If you just throw them, and

2062
02:10:11,000 --> 02:10:13,159
again I don't say this flippantly, if you just throw

2063
02:10:13,199 --> 02:10:15,960
them in a rape cage, what are you giving them?

2064
02:10:16,520 --> 02:10:18,079
What are you giving them? What kind of hope are

2065
02:10:18,119 --> 02:10:20,600
you giving them? What goal are you giving them to

2066
02:10:20,680 --> 02:10:24,079
progress towards? Now, perhaps I may be being a bit

2067
02:10:24,640 --> 02:10:27,479
optimistic here. I'm not say claiming all of these men

2068
02:10:27,520 --> 02:10:30,920
are going to turn into engineers and world class scientists.

2069
02:10:31,199 --> 02:10:33,359
But I don't see I don't see it as an

2070
02:10:33,439 --> 02:10:39,680
unreasonable expectation or a pie in the sky hope that

2071
02:10:39,720 --> 02:10:42,720
a lot of these men just find meaning in life

2072
02:10:42,800 --> 02:10:46,840
again and just find meaning in work again, because again

2073
02:10:47,000 --> 02:10:51,039
that's man's curse to toil, to work, and without it,

2074
02:10:51,119 --> 02:10:54,760
he self destructs. So I think his idea of plan

2075
02:10:54,840 --> 02:10:57,159
of no leisure is great. And it's also and I'll

2076
02:10:57,199 --> 02:10:58,560
close with this and let it get back to the

2077
02:10:58,640 --> 02:11:02,359
video very briefly. It's if you're going to want if

2078
02:11:02,359 --> 02:11:04,399
you want your population to work, then you can tell

2079
02:11:04,479 --> 02:11:06,199
then the best way to do it is what he's doing,

2080
02:11:06,239 --> 02:11:08,600
which is to say, you can either get up on

2081
02:11:08,680 --> 02:11:11,439
your own, put your shoes on, kiss your wife goodbye,

2082
02:11:11,520 --> 02:11:15,119
go to work, get paid, get benefits, come home, have dinner,

2083
02:11:15,199 --> 02:11:18,840
watch TV, and go to bed, Or you can stay

2084
02:11:18,840 --> 02:11:21,039
in a cage with everybody here and get up when

2085
02:11:21,079 --> 02:11:23,479
we tell you to get up, do what we tell

2086
02:11:23,520 --> 02:11:25,640
you to do, go to bed when we tell you

2087
02:11:25,680 --> 02:11:28,680
to go to bed, and watch TV. But either way

2088
02:11:29,600 --> 02:11:32,800
you're gonna be you're gonna be working. You can choose

2089
02:11:32,840 --> 02:11:35,680
how you want to work. Or we're gonna choose. That's

2090
02:11:35,720 --> 02:11:38,279
your options, but you're not getting out of work either way.

2091
02:11:39,079 --> 02:11:42,800
Speaker 5: That's my piece dangerous country in the world to now

2092
02:11:42,840 --> 02:11:45,600
the safest country in the Western Hemisphere. I'm gonna show you,

2093
02:11:45,600 --> 02:11:47,159
guys a large reason why we'll be starting off this

2094
02:11:47,199 --> 02:11:48,680
video going inside of this person here, and then we

2095
02:11:48,760 --> 02:11:51,159
be going through another prison where nobody has ever actually

2096
02:11:51,159 --> 02:11:53,199
gone into before. I will be the first person to

2097
02:11:53,279 --> 02:11:55,560
ever receive access to go to where you're going today.

2098
02:11:55,640 --> 02:11:57,560
Makes you, guys, get this video like and subscribe the channel.

2099
02:11:57,560 --> 02:11:59,000
We're on a mission to get the five hundred thousands

2100
02:11:59,079 --> 02:12:00,960
drivers as of right now. And now let's go inside

2101
02:12:00,960 --> 02:12:02,199
of the prison here we go. Let's say that we

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entered into the first of the two prisons we will

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be going inside for this video. Throughout the video, the

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intensity and the production of the prisons will increase as

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our phases to the prison systems here and be ready

2106
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for some things you would never expect to see inside

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of a prison. Now it was time to go meet

2108
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the warden who'll be guiding us throughout the first prison,

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La Esperanza. And what's it like in here?

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Speaker 7: Dilla is central penal apparent.

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Speaker 5: Permitan And what's the difference between the prisoners here inside

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of this prison versus the prisoners that are inside notandos

2113
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the central if you do not know what second is.

2114
02:12:49,479 --> 02:12:51,359
It is a maximum security prison here in al Savor

2115
02:12:51,640 --> 02:12:53,640
where the most dangerous kingss go to live the rest

2116
02:12:53,640 --> 02:12:56,479
of their lives without ever seeing the light of sun again. However,

2117
02:12:56,520 --> 02:12:58,600
in this prison it is completely different. And so what

2118
02:12:58,680 --> 02:13:00,000
kind of crime did someone have to commit to be

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inside of one.

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Speaker 8: Of these prisons? Rovos isaf.

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02:13:10,319 --> 02:13:11,720
Speaker 5: And how long can somebody being one of these prisons

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02:13:11,720 --> 02:13:16,319
for perund The tempo is a maximo temple games. Everybody

2123
02:13:16,359 --> 02:13:18,079
you're seeing side this video that are not police officers

2124
02:13:18,199 --> 02:13:20,039
or have a camera inside their hands are all prisoners

2125
02:13:20,079 --> 02:13:21,800
that are then being quit to work. Plan said also

2126
02:13:21,960 --> 02:13:24,079
literally means plan of no leisure. These prisons are being

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02:13:24,119 --> 02:13:25,680
quit to work twenty for seven. If they're not eating

2128
02:13:25,920 --> 02:13:28,680
or sleeping, they're either studying or working here inside of Sava.

2129
02:13:28,920 --> 02:13:30,359
So they're prisoners, the sons.

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02:13:31,760 --> 02:13:33,199
Speaker 7: Being okay, having somebody goes through.

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02:13:35,520 --> 02:13:37,119
Speaker 5: And how many people here inside this prison being to

2132
02:13:37,119 --> 02:13:41,720
see the milit and because these prisoners are always occupied

2133
02:13:41,720 --> 02:13:43,600
to be entered into the first classroom where they were

2134
02:13:43,720 --> 02:13:46,000
learning about medical procedures. We have one classroom right here,

2135
02:13:46,079 --> 02:13:48,199
and right next door there's another classroom as well, and

2136
02:13:48,239 --> 02:13:50,680
these guys are also learning. So there's literally no leisure

2137
02:13:50,680 --> 02:13:55,680
inside of the prisoner. No, no, what's the youngest person

2138
02:13:55,720 --> 02:14:00,680
and what's the oldest person? Side's professors skins.

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02:14:01,760 --> 02:14:08,000
Speaker 9: So many even the teachers that are teaching these tests

2140
02:14:08,079 --> 02:14:10,840
are also prisoners that were once somehow educated enough inside

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02:14:10,840 --> 02:14:12,279
of the field that they're currently teaching it to teach

2142
02:14:12,319 --> 02:14:13,039
an entire classroom.

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Speaker 5: So this prison is becoming completely auto sufficient and how

2144
02:14:16,560 --> 02:14:18,960
they teach, how they learn, and how they're able to

2145
02:14:19,000 --> 02:14:20,840
go about their business here with everything that they do.

2146
02:14:20,960 --> 02:14:22,560
Right here, they're doing a practice. Here you can see

2147
02:14:22,560 --> 02:14:24,319
they have a person on a stretcher. We're doing a practice,

2148
02:14:24,359 --> 02:14:25,920
so that way these people are learning how to become

2149
02:14:26,079 --> 02:14:29,880
medics if needed eventually knowest and right now they're undergoing practice.

2150
02:14:29,880 --> 02:14:31,640
For example, right now, this is a CPR practice they

2151
02:14:31,640 --> 02:14:33,159
are doing. And they have even gang man's out on

2152
02:14:33,199 --> 02:14:35,039
the back right now, who know those.

2153
02:14:37,199 --> 02:14:37,479
Speaker 6: That's not.

2154
02:14:39,319 --> 02:14:40,760
Speaker 5: Right now, they're doing a medical course and so that

2155
02:14:40,880 --> 02:14:42,479
was part of their practice with a CPR test, and

2156
02:14:42,520 --> 02:14:45,479
I think everybody passed those here it's a it's a low.

2157
02:14:45,880 --> 02:14:49,600
And before you were here inside of this prison, were

2158
02:14:49,640 --> 02:14:50,760
you also in the medical field.

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02:14:52,600 --> 02:14:56,760
Speaker 7: Americ program and how long have you be excited the

2160
02:14:56,840 --> 02:14:57,119
job for.

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02:14:58,479 --> 02:15:03,600
Speaker 5: Message become the tempo stat say science science. And now

2162
02:15:03,680 --> 02:15:06,439
inside of this classroom they're learning about chemistry here inside

2163
02:15:06,479 --> 02:15:08,800
each concern there's a biometric thing that scan each person

2164
02:15:08,840 --> 02:15:10,640
as they want into the class to make sure they're

2165
02:15:10,640 --> 02:15:14,279
authorized to come in miss classes. Even who comes to

2166
02:15:14,319 --> 02:15:17,239
classes here doesn't. There's absolutely no ditching here inside And

2167
02:15:17,279 --> 02:15:18,600
what was it like here inside of Saba and in

2168
02:15:18,640 --> 02:15:21,319
the prison systems here in Abur before and I K became.

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02:15:21,159 --> 02:15:23,439
Speaker 8: Presic and this guess this intro and the central panel

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look muro here and graffiti is graffanda the on in

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02:15:28,600 --> 02:15:31,600
traffic and crable they leases to TRAFFICA androga traffic and

2172
02:15:31,960 --> 02:15:37,159
probi central panel am bandas like I said intro and

2173
02:15:37,159 --> 02:15:42,000
complain in control the Leventa drost the center panel massacres

2174
02:15:42,319 --> 02:15:48,840
for las Banda for making interior. It's fundingist part traffic

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they lass.

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02:15:49,880 --> 02:15:51,239
Speaker 5: Is it true that they used to do well?

2177
02:15:51,399 --> 02:15:53,279
Speaker 1: Is that the c A needed its funding?

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02:15:53,520 --> 02:15:55,640
Speaker 3: You know? So of course there were drug smuggles, right,

2179
02:15:56,960 --> 02:16:00,359
but no, it's something we're talking about here just brief, right,

2180
02:16:00,680 --> 02:16:03,800
And in this there's a lot to be disappointed with Trump.

2181
02:16:04,560 --> 02:16:11,199
He's you know, but I guarantee you, guarantee you that

2182
02:16:11,359 --> 02:16:21,479
there were American injieos imposing that sort of liberal quaker,

2183
02:16:21,680 --> 02:16:25,720
you know, American prison system type stuff on El Salvador.

2184
02:16:26,560 --> 02:16:31,319
I guarantee it that that there that the you know,

2185
02:16:32,920 --> 02:16:35,600
Open Society Foundation or whatever you want to say, like

2186
02:16:36,200 --> 02:16:38,840
was was helping make the prisons in our Salva the

2187
02:16:38,879 --> 02:16:42,840
way they are and or the way they were. And

2188
02:16:42,959 --> 02:16:46,000
it's the rejection of that that is leading to success.

2189
02:16:47,200 --> 02:16:47,399
Speaker 6: You know.

2190
02:16:47,600 --> 02:16:49,440
Speaker 3: One of the things that Kelly is doing is getting

2191
02:16:49,520 --> 02:16:52,799
rid of all the injos in his country. Well you

2192
02:16:52,879 --> 02:16:58,639
know who who you know, democracy advocates are the ones

2193
02:16:58,639 --> 02:17:03,280
who are like, well, your prisons are cruel. Well maybe

2194
02:17:04,280 --> 02:17:06,840
maybe people who commit crimes don't deserve leisure. Maybe people

2195
02:17:06,879 --> 02:17:10,840
who are you know, murderers don't deserve to like just

2196
02:17:11,000 --> 02:17:12,200
chill on the tax period, hine.

2197
02:17:13,000 --> 02:17:13,639
Speaker 2: So I.

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Speaker 3: I guarantee you that the reason, part of the reason

2199
02:17:18,000 --> 02:17:20,159
that the prisons were so just as functional prior to

2200
02:17:20,200 --> 02:17:25,000
President of Keela is that American money, which is to say,

2201
02:17:28,079 --> 02:17:30,719
Jews in America wanted, let you know, wanted that place

2202
02:17:30,799 --> 02:17:36,000
to be dysfunctional because it's easier to exploit if it's dysfunctional.

2203
02:17:40,600 --> 02:17:42,920
Speaker 5: Once a prisoner has proven himself and passed various exams

2204
02:17:42,959 --> 02:17:45,319
and evaluations, they are then moved to the prison called Roundhu,

2205
02:17:45,360 --> 02:17:47,319
where they are then called a person of confidence. Inside

2206
02:17:47,319 --> 02:17:49,040
of this prison, the prisoner is able to work without

2207
02:17:49,079 --> 02:17:51,399
astide security and they help produce all the food for

2208
02:17:51,440 --> 02:17:53,600
the prison systems. Here in the El Salvador they even

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02:17:53,639 --> 02:17:55,239
have farm like and this is home to the new

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02:17:55,319 --> 02:17:57,760
controversial fabric factory that I will be going into very

2211
02:17:57,879 --> 02:17:58,239
very soon.

2212
02:17:58,520 --> 02:17:59,920
Speaker 1: I met with the warden to get full to.

2213
02:18:00,559 --> 02:18:02,079
Speaker 5: What's the difference between this prison in the prison we

2214
02:18:02,159 --> 02:18:09,120
were just that in the last peranza fer So essentially

2215
02:18:09,159 --> 02:18:10,760
this is where someone goes after they graduate from that

2216
02:18:10,840 --> 02:18:16,639
last prison where just that complute, this is the best

2217
02:18:16,639 --> 02:18:18,520
person you could possibly be in before you are then

2218
02:18:18,600 --> 02:18:24,920
sent in public. Yes, now we're heading into the industrial

2219
02:18:25,000 --> 02:18:26,879
kitchen here where they make over twenty thousand meals that

2220
02:18:26,920 --> 02:18:29,040
they fill the prisoners inside the gal Savador. Before kicking

2221
02:18:29,040 --> 02:18:31,319
the food into the factory, they harvest all and filled

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02:18:31,440 --> 02:18:33,360
outside and then they then take inside and this is

2223
02:18:33,399 --> 02:18:35,239
where they provide all the food for all the prisons

2224
02:18:35,239 --> 02:18:37,479
across the Savagoro. So here is one of the freshman meals.

2225
02:18:37,479 --> 02:18:40,600
Here they have the beans, rice and some tortillas in there.

2226
02:18:48,840 --> 02:18:50,680
You're one of the chefs here, Yeah, on a scale

2227
02:18:50,680 --> 02:18:51,879
one in ten? How would you rate the quality of

2228
02:18:51,879 --> 02:18:52,280
the food here?

2229
02:18:52,959 --> 02:18:55,680
Speaker 7: That event? Yese?

2230
02:18:55,920 --> 02:18:57,600
Speaker 5: And how much longer do you have here inside this show?

2231
02:18:57,639 --> 02:19:03,200
You want too much? If the cars jeers and trying

2232
02:19:03,200 --> 02:19:06,319
to you pack people they live to the steadies and

2233
02:19:06,319 --> 02:19:08,319
the precision these guys are even just cutting these tomatoes

2234
02:19:08,360 --> 02:19:10,280
with is actually insane. That guy where they got it

2235
02:19:10,360 --> 02:19:13,079
super super organized and these guys are just cutting non

2236
02:19:13,159 --> 02:19:15,079
stop tomatoes. I don't know how many hours they do today,

2237
02:19:15,239 --> 02:19:16,639
but they're going at it right now and none of

2238
02:19:16,680 --> 02:19:18,440
them are even stopping. Can't stop at brand.

2239
02:19:20,680 --> 02:19:20,840
Speaker 2: Wow?

2240
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Speaker 5: And and how many hours a day do you guys sleep?

2241
02:19:27,040 --> 02:19:31,319
For Dorman? You know tem access to sell you on Facebook?

2242
02:19:33,959 --> 02:19:35,399
Find of differ, say what do you do to have fun?

2243
02:19:40,920 --> 02:19:42,639
Speaker 7: Since people paying me?

2244
02:19:43,319 --> 02:19:45,239
Speaker 5: Right here they're making the cookies and then right here

2245
02:19:45,520 --> 02:19:48,440
they're making the tortillas for the food. So fascinating here

2246
02:19:48,440 --> 02:19:50,719
because everything is so streamlined and done so quickly. Here

2247
02:19:50,799 --> 02:19:52,600
everybody moves from one spot to the next, one spot

2248
02:19:52,639 --> 02:19:54,319
to the next, one spot to the next, and there's

2249
02:19:54,360 --> 02:19:56,879
no time for anything to be wasted, and everything that

2250
02:19:56,920 --> 02:19:58,840
does get put the waste is then put back into

2251
02:19:58,920 --> 02:20:05,399
the machines. There's no way here inside this prison us

2252
02:20:06,399 --> 02:20:07,239
what do you do to get here?

2253
02:20:11,120 --> 02:20:11,200
Speaker 6: Now?

2254
02:20:11,280 --> 02:20:14,040
Speaker 5: It was time to enter into the new massive mega

2255
02:20:14,120 --> 02:20:16,479
factory here inside of this prison, and this building is

2256
02:20:16,600 --> 02:20:17,479
absolutely massive.

2257
02:20:17,680 --> 02:20:18,159
Speaker 1: Just look at this.

2258
02:20:27,079 --> 02:20:28,760
Speaker 5: We are the first people ever to receive access to

2259
02:20:28,760 --> 02:20:30,559
where we're at right now. This is a new building

2260
02:20:30,559 --> 02:20:32,040
that have built here inside of the prison where you

2261
02:20:32,040 --> 02:20:34,239
can see there are thousands upon a thousands of people

2262
02:20:34,360 --> 02:20:36,520
that are working on fabrics here. These same clothes are

2263
02:20:36,520 --> 02:20:39,120
going to use for schools, for the prisoner's outfits, any

2264
02:20:39,120 --> 02:20:41,879
outfit for the government will be made here inside of

2265
02:20:42,040 --> 02:20:44,200
this room right here. How many people are here working

2266
02:20:44,239 --> 02:20:44,799
inside right now?

2267
02:20:47,879 --> 02:20:48,559
Speaker 2: What are they working on?

2268
02:20:51,120 --> 02:20:55,799
Speaker 7: Appropriate? La prendas.

2269
02:20:57,440 --> 02:20:59,040
Speaker 5: So the closing here will be used for the prisoners,

2270
02:20:59,079 --> 02:21:01,319
but will also be used for close schools and other

2271
02:21:01,520 --> 02:21:16,360
projects as well. Maquila Minister, here inside of this prison,

2272
02:21:16,440 --> 02:21:21,680
what are we seeing now? Indo textil Aquito.

2273
02:21:27,040 --> 02:21:27,760
Speaker 7: Agues, the lugar.

2274
02:21:29,680 --> 02:21:33,840
Speaker 1: There's those who are listening to this. It is literally

2275
02:21:34,360 --> 02:21:39,200
thousands of people sewing. I mean, I'm not am I

2276
02:21:39,879 --> 02:21:41,479
exaggerating by saying thousands.

2277
02:21:43,399 --> 02:21:45,280
Speaker 2: I don't think so. No, it looks like there's at

2278
02:21:45,399 --> 02:21:48,799
least fifteen hundred two thousand. Yeah, i'd say that's say.

2279
02:21:48,799 --> 02:21:51,159
It looks very much like that, about two thousand people.

2280
02:21:51,280 --> 02:21:54,559
It's massive. I just want to say something to regarding

2281
02:21:54,600 --> 02:21:58,120
to pause. Regarding the food. I think it's interesting that

2282
02:21:58,360 --> 02:22:02,079
they probably eat better than most Americans outside of prison

2283
02:22:02,399 --> 02:22:04,760
because everything's grown on the farm. It's not a bunch

2284
02:22:04,840 --> 02:22:06,319
of highly processed slop.

2285
02:22:07,040 --> 02:22:07,479
Speaker 1: It's not.

2286
02:22:07,719 --> 02:22:11,120
Speaker 2: Again not to try and buy too heavily into the propaganda,

2287
02:22:11,280 --> 02:22:13,479
but I mean, like you can just look at it.

2288
02:22:13,559 --> 02:22:15,440
Look at it. You can see the farm animals, you

2289
02:22:15,479 --> 02:22:20,440
can see that, you can see the vegetables. It's like,

2290
02:22:20,559 --> 02:22:22,719
and it's all in house. It's not just a bunch

2291
02:22:22,760 --> 02:22:27,920
of of carded in, highly processed garbage. So you wonder

2292
02:22:28,000 --> 02:22:30,280
if that's you You have to think that that's going

2293
02:22:30,319 --> 02:22:33,040
to have a positive impact on their outlook and on

2294
02:22:33,120 --> 02:22:38,079
their their their hopefulness, their their their progress, their personal

2295
02:22:38,200 --> 02:22:41,760
and mental, physical and spiritual progress, just because they're eating

2296
02:22:41,840 --> 02:22:44,159
better food. And also one thing I want to point

2297
02:22:44,159 --> 02:22:47,600
out in case the audience is unaware, like prisons are

2298
02:22:48,120 --> 02:22:52,879
tremendously profit generating for a lot of outside contractors, and

2299
02:22:53,000 --> 02:22:55,399
that's why they want people in them. That's why they

2300
02:22:55,440 --> 02:22:58,000
want to fill them because they make tons of money

2301
02:22:58,040 --> 02:23:00,479
off of it. You ask somebody how much it costs

2302
02:23:00,559 --> 02:23:03,079
to mail a letter outside of prison, how much they

2303
02:23:03,159 --> 02:23:05,799
get charged for an envelope, how much they get charged

2304
02:23:05,879 --> 02:23:09,040
for paper. They don't want prisons, but making their own stuff,

2305
02:23:09,159 --> 02:23:12,159
making their own uniforms, making their own food because they can.

2306
02:23:12,840 --> 02:23:16,360
That's tons and tons of money to contractors to sell

2307
02:23:16,559 --> 02:23:21,680
very low quality goods at very high prices. Yep.

2308
02:23:21,760 --> 02:23:24,079
Speaker 3: And one of the biggest unions in the state of

2309
02:23:24,159 --> 02:23:28,600
California is the Correction Officers Union. So we have that vector.

2310
02:23:29,200 --> 02:23:31,719
But just to speak to the closed thing real quick,

2311
02:23:31,879 --> 02:23:37,399
and Emichael Johnestock about this recently, every nation the industrialized

2312
02:23:38,760 --> 02:23:41,760
did so by first making their own clothes, because everyone

2313
02:23:41,920 --> 02:23:50,120
needs clothes and they're relatively simple. So just like NAFTA

2314
02:23:50,239 --> 02:23:55,760
destroyed Central Wallhawkan farmers right there, their corn couldn't compete

2315
02:23:55,760 --> 02:23:59,760
with iam acorn. A lot of these southn cistral A

2316
02:23:59,760 --> 02:24:04,639
Maria nations, uh can't industrialize because they can't complete with

2317
02:24:05,040 --> 02:24:08,959
you know, the millions of T shirts that were going

2318
02:24:09,000 --> 02:24:10,879
to the you know, last year Super Bowl loser that

2319
02:24:11,120 --> 02:24:14,559
you know they print up, you know, one hundred thousand

2320
02:24:15,399 --> 02:24:19,399
you know Chiefs versus one hundred thousand Eagles, and you

2321
02:24:19,479 --> 02:24:22,200
know all the you know, chief super Bowl champions of

2322
02:24:22,280 --> 02:24:25,879
this past year T shirts gets sold were given to

2323
02:24:26,200 --> 02:24:31,360
people in Africa and Central America. So not only are

2324
02:24:32,360 --> 02:24:35,040
is these guys learning useful trade, but they're actually helping

2325
02:24:35,079 --> 02:24:36,280
industrialize their own country.

2326
02:24:38,120 --> 02:24:38,959
Speaker 1: You got anything, Jose.

2327
02:24:41,120 --> 02:24:48,840
Speaker 6: One point the raised about the n g os reminded

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02:24:48,879 --> 02:24:53,319
me as well respect to I think Japan's prison system,

2329
02:24:53,520 --> 02:24:59,680
which is actually really similar to the h solid Oorian model,

2330
02:25:00,159 --> 02:25:05,719
which is heavily focused on work. In fact, apart from

2331
02:25:05,840 --> 02:25:08,840
like the time served. If I am not mistaken that

2332
02:25:08,959 --> 02:25:11,799
you have to serve in the Japanese prison system, you're

2333
02:25:12,079 --> 02:25:16,200
expected to pay off like a certain monetary debt, and

2334
02:25:16,479 --> 02:25:19,680
to do so you actually have to get a type of.

2335
02:25:19,840 --> 02:25:21,120
Speaker 2: Skill in there.

2336
02:25:21,559 --> 02:25:25,360
Speaker 6: And a lot of these NGOs really do hate the

2337
02:25:25,520 --> 02:25:30,760
idea of like hard labor. They prefer the status quo model,

2338
02:25:31,159 --> 02:25:34,360
or at least like even something that turns prison system

2339
02:25:34,399 --> 02:25:38,079
into just like some leisurely lounge to just encourage people

2340
02:25:38,280 --> 02:25:41,280
almost to get in the prison, and it creates the

2341
02:25:41,600 --> 02:25:45,440
cycle of like rent seeking groups that profit off of this,

2342
02:25:46,040 --> 02:25:48,840
while the criminals that get out there, they're allowed to

2343
02:25:49,000 --> 02:25:53,959
just continue to recavoc and in effect create this society

2344
02:25:54,159 --> 02:25:59,680
wide strategy of tension. And it is, in my opinion,

2345
02:25:59,680 --> 02:26:03,239
pretty insidious the way the current system is designed. And

2346
02:26:03,360 --> 02:26:06,440
that's why any type of a country, whether it's a

2347
02:26:06,600 --> 02:26:10,399
salvad or some East Asian disciplinarian like East Asian country

2348
02:26:10,440 --> 02:26:12,639
that tries to break free from the model, it gets

2349
02:26:12,760 --> 02:26:16,959
demonized because it is a threat to the present system.

2350
02:26:19,040 --> 02:26:22,399
Speaker 1: All Right, gonna restart this and keep it going, because

2351
02:26:22,799 --> 02:26:24,680
there's some more really good stuff.

2352
02:26:24,399 --> 02:26:30,719
Speaker 8: In here, mad complete and all these close.

2353
02:26:44,159 --> 02:26:44,479
Speaker 6: The name.

2354
02:26:46,879 --> 02:26:49,360
Speaker 5: Indus and so how many closes the day are you

2355
02:26:49,360 --> 02:26:57,840
guys trying to make depended? So you're saying, essentially, here,

2356
02:26:57,879 --> 02:26:59,559
with all the workforce you guys have here, you guys

2357
02:26:59,559 --> 02:27:03,360
are can with anybody outside of is a la.

2358
02:27:05,879 --> 02:27:13,840
Speaker 7: Personas be for.

2359
02:27:13,879 --> 02:27:17,840
Speaker 1: People who are just listening. Twenty one hundred people working

2360
02:27:17,879 --> 02:27:21,520
at the same time, working three eight hour shifts a day,

2361
02:27:22,360 --> 02:27:27,879
so basically they have sixty three hundred people and working

2362
02:27:28,159 --> 02:27:34,879
every day, working working eight hour shifts making clothes for

2363
02:27:35,440 --> 02:27:41,840
the country. I mean, could could you imagine that efficiency here?

2364
02:27:44,079 --> 02:27:44,959
Speaker 2: I can imagine it.

2365
02:27:55,280 --> 02:27:56,920
Speaker 5: So every single day twenty for seven there are two

2366
02:27:56,920 --> 02:27:59,040
thousand people that are working on clothes here inside of

2367
02:27:59,040 --> 02:28:02,360
this factory. Does this sum wow? So they're making the

2368
02:28:02,360 --> 02:28:04,520
government official shirts here inside here, like I saying, they

2369
02:28:04,520 --> 02:28:06,159
can compete with anybody from outside here. And this is

2370
02:28:06,200 --> 02:28:08,959
helping out Sourare saved thousands upon thousands, potentially millions of

2371
02:28:09,079 --> 02:28:11,639
dollars as these prisoners are being put to use versus

2372
02:28:11,680 --> 02:28:13,280
them just spending time inside of a prison zone. And

2373
02:28:13,319 --> 02:28:14,360
how much longer do you have in your.

2374
02:28:14,319 --> 02:28:17,520
Speaker 7: Sinece yeow yeo?

2375
02:28:19,399 --> 02:28:20,520
Speaker 5: And if you don't mind me asking what kind of

2376
02:28:20,559 --> 02:28:22,319
crime you guys commit to get inside of the prison

2377
02:28:22,399 --> 02:28:28,799
and istaf what you said, Kim. And just to show

2378
02:28:28,840 --> 02:28:30,159
you some of the products that you guys have made

2379
02:28:30,200 --> 02:28:32,000
here inside of this factory here we have all the

2380
02:28:32,079 --> 02:28:33,479
shirts and these shirts they are the same shirts that

2381
02:28:33,520 --> 02:28:35,319
these peole are also wearing as well. So by doing

2382
02:28:35,360 --> 02:28:37,879
this else Aalber helps cut down the cost of stuff

2383
02:28:37,879 --> 02:28:40,000
they would usually have to export outside of the prison

2384
02:28:40,040 --> 02:28:42,040
system and said they have brought it into the prison systems,

2385
02:28:42,159 --> 02:28:44,319
making taxpayers here in else Alvora not have to pay

2386
02:28:44,520 --> 02:28:47,520
for the clothes of the prisoners. And all of these prisoners,

2387
02:28:47,559 --> 02:28:49,399
every single day they work here inside the factory, two

2388
02:28:49,479 --> 02:28:51,319
days is taken off of their sentence, so that means

2389
02:28:51,319 --> 02:28:53,520
if they're supposed to serve four years, they can takeually

2390
02:28:53,559 --> 02:28:55,479
serve only two years if they work inside this factory

2391
02:28:55,559 --> 02:28:57,639
every single day, helping reduce the time all of these

2392
02:28:57,680 --> 02:29:00,840
fuel sentences and also helping build up the country as well.

2393
02:29:00,959 --> 02:29:02,879
And so right now there are two thousand people. However

2394
02:29:03,000 --> 02:29:05,319
they have three shifts of two thousand people, so twenty

2395
02:29:05,360 --> 02:29:07,920
four to seven. This factory is running each every single

2396
02:29:08,000 --> 02:29:10,959
day with over six thousand prisoners working inside of this factory.

2397
02:29:11,040 --> 02:29:13,000
Over here they're making the clothes, and then right here

2398
02:29:13,040 --> 02:29:15,159
they're building a different set of clothes as well, so

2399
02:29:15,239 --> 02:29:18,079
they can do hospital schools, the prison cloths themselves. Here

2400
02:29:18,079 --> 02:29:21,680
inside this factory, and it is absolutely massive here, over

2401
02:29:21,760 --> 02:29:23,959
two thousand people and each person is working hard. You

2402
02:29:24,040 --> 02:29:25,559
do not see any cell phones in here. In fact,

2403
02:29:25,639 --> 02:29:27,520
the cell service here is completely blocked and these prisoners

2404
02:29:27,559 --> 02:29:29,600
have no access to the outside world as far as

2405
02:29:29,680 --> 02:29:31,639
internet goes. I feel are on a shift for eight

2406
02:29:31,719 --> 02:29:33,319
hours and then the next shift comes in twenty four

2407
02:29:33,319 --> 02:29:35,840
to seven. This place is operating. I have never seen

2408
02:29:35,879 --> 02:29:37,920
anything like this, and it's actually pretty insane to think

2409
02:29:38,000 --> 02:29:39,799
that here in El Salvare they are now using the

2410
02:29:39,840 --> 02:29:42,600
prisoners to help rebuild the economy. Expert I think so

2411
02:29:42,639 --> 02:29:44,559
this way they don't have to be importing clothes from

2412
02:29:44,559 --> 02:29:46,479
a country like China or the United States, said, they

2413
02:29:46,520 --> 02:29:48,079
can be doing it right here in house in side

2414
02:29:48,120 --> 02:29:51,120
El Salvare using the prisoners essentially for free labor here

2415
02:29:51,319 --> 02:29:52,920
as they are then given two days off of their

2416
02:29:52,959 --> 02:29:54,959
prison sentence. What price would you put on your life

2417
02:29:55,000 --> 02:29:56,879
for an extra three two days of liberty and matchine

2418
02:29:56,879 --> 02:29:58,920
you're sendence for ten years. By working in here, you

2419
02:29:59,000 --> 02:30:00,959
can then reduce your send so just five years to

2420
02:30:01,000 --> 02:30:03,319
be with your loved ones once again, and you learn

2421
02:30:03,399 --> 02:30:05,399
a new skill as well. We're going to another location

2422
02:30:05,440 --> 02:30:06,959
here inside this prison to where they make all of

2423
02:30:07,000 --> 02:30:09,000
the desks for the schools here, those cars.

2424
02:30:10,719 --> 02:30:16,959
Speaker 7: Or no, it is semimplement, it's comple What.

2425
02:30:17,000 --> 02:30:21,920
Speaker 5: Are the building right here and how long have you

2426
02:30:22,000 --> 02:30:22,479
been working here?

2427
02:30:22,520 --> 02:30:23,440
Speaker 2: For four years?

2428
02:30:23,479 --> 02:30:24,959
Speaker 5: What kind of crime did you commit to get set?

2429
02:30:25,079 --> 02:30:25,159
Speaker 6: Here?

2430
02:30:25,319 --> 02:30:26,879
Speaker 1: I have rubbery, simple rubbery?

2431
02:30:26,959 --> 02:30:27,879
Speaker 5: And how many years did you get?

2432
02:30:27,879 --> 02:30:28,600
Speaker 6: I have eight years?

2433
02:30:28,680 --> 02:30:29,760
Speaker 5: And what do you hope to do once you finish

2434
02:30:29,760 --> 02:30:30,719
your time here inside this prison?

2435
02:30:31,360 --> 02:30:33,520
Speaker 1: I won Saudi and in the university.

2436
02:30:33,600 --> 02:30:35,040
Speaker 5: These are all the desks they're currently building for the

2437
02:30:35,040 --> 02:30:37,399
schools here. Every single day they build a thousand desks,

2438
02:30:37,440 --> 02:30:39,520
and then these are the finished products right here. They

2439
02:30:39,600 --> 02:30:42,120
even have really nice chairs as well. And then here's

2440
02:30:42,120 --> 02:30:44,159
the finished product of the school desk that they build

2441
02:30:44,360 --> 02:30:46,000
for each school here in El Salvador. They're building over

2442
02:30:46,040 --> 02:30:47,360
a thousand a day. Are you ever worried that you

2443
02:30:47,440 --> 02:30:48,879
are gonna make too many bests? But you're not gonna

2444
02:30:48,879 --> 02:30:59,159
have pastrooms to fill them with? For After spending time

2445
02:30:59,200 --> 02:31:00,639
inside of the factories, it was time to go outside

2446
02:31:00,639 --> 02:31:02,719
and understand why they call this place like the farm.

2447
02:31:02,799 --> 02:31:05,000
I am honestly quite amazed at what I'm seeing right now.

2448
02:31:05,040 --> 02:31:07,079
They even have their own farms, even with their own

2449
02:31:07,120 --> 02:31:11,440
lake out here. Can palak home sounds like contos.

2450
02:31:14,520 --> 02:31:15,239
Speaker 1: You have me pescees.

2451
02:31:15,280 --> 02:31:16,840
Speaker 5: Now he's gonna throw the net out. We're gonna catch

2452
02:31:16,879 --> 02:31:19,600
them fish at least though almost boom. Let's catch them

2453
02:31:19,639 --> 02:31:22,600
fish here we go. Holy cow, we caught a lot

2454
02:31:22,799 --> 02:31:25,360
of fish. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight,

2455
02:31:25,479 --> 02:31:27,799
nine ten. Just got ten fish here inside this little lake,

2456
02:31:27,799 --> 02:31:30,120
inside this little reservoir here. I am beyond amazed at

2457
02:31:30,159 --> 02:31:32,639
what I'm saying here in El Salvagor, between the factory

2458
02:31:32,639 --> 02:31:34,159
that they've just made to the fish here and the

2459
02:31:34,200 --> 02:31:35,920
reservoirs that they have traded out here as well. And

2460
02:31:36,000 --> 02:31:38,040
then behind us we also have the field that they

2461
02:31:38,079 --> 02:31:39,879
have all the vegetables and all the other food. Now,

2462
02:31:39,920 --> 02:31:41,760
these are the bigger fish here that put inside of

2463
02:31:41,799 --> 02:31:44,280
these pools right here. Oh, oh my word, look at

2464
02:31:44,319 --> 02:31:49,280
these ones. Holy no place. Look at this fish that

2465
02:31:49,280 --> 02:31:53,079
they're grown here inside this fish is ginormous. Hold on, migo,

2466
02:31:54,479 --> 02:31:58,799
Okay Tom, they goes to the naive. See here at

2467
02:31:58,840 --> 02:32:00,799
this prison, you guys have literally everything from pele that

2468
02:32:00,920 --> 02:32:02,280
know how to bake peel I know how to sew,

2469
02:32:02,440 --> 02:32:05,040
and people that know how to fish. Here next to

2470
02:32:05,040 --> 02:32:06,840
the rest where they also have a cornfield. And what

2471
02:32:06,920 --> 02:32:12,040
do you guys use the corn for? We've now made

2472
02:32:12,040 --> 02:32:13,159
it to the farming section here in the prison. We

2473
02:32:13,200 --> 02:32:15,280
got a bunch of cows behind us quosa. How many

2474
02:32:15,280 --> 02:32:20,879
cows you at here lord, if there is Mismoski, it's correct.

2475
02:32:20,920 --> 02:32:30,600
Speaker 10: So are you in processor there Daylia.

2476
02:32:26,760 --> 02:32:28,440
Speaker 5: And where you are farm before you got here a

2477
02:32:28,680 --> 02:32:34,680
grand hero anti Kevin aki Antis and how much more

2478
02:32:34,680 --> 02:32:35,520
time do you have run?

2479
02:32:35,879 --> 02:32:36,319
Speaker 1: No way?

2480
02:32:36,360 --> 02:32:38,239
Speaker 5: Look at all these cows they have here inside this prison,

2481
02:32:39,319 --> 02:32:41,319
they're all just munched. When you committed your crimes and

2482
02:32:41,360 --> 02:32:42,799
you're taking the jail, did you ever expect you like

2483
02:32:42,840 --> 02:32:43,840
to be like this inside the prison?

2484
02:32:44,760 --> 02:32:49,079
Speaker 10: Pork sm differente Star and last different you put the

2485
02:32:49,079 --> 02:32:52,360
prison k k sever for himployers whom sent to industrial

2486
02:32:52,719 --> 02:33:00,479
aka I much in Cambio Anti Purama is from Benzonals,

2487
02:33:00,479 --> 02:33:04,200
not last cam different.

2488
02:33:06,879 --> 02:33:07,440
Speaker 7: Imprision.

2489
02:33:08,959 --> 02:33:10,239
Speaker 5: It's very impressive as the will do is do you

2490
02:33:10,280 --> 02:33:12,440
think other countries across the world were starting follow examples

2491
02:33:12,440 --> 02:33:14,040
that al Saba and now you become upset.

2492
02:33:14,040 --> 02:33:20,399
Speaker 7: Clay see Mplo para que persona independent.

2493
02:33:23,120 --> 02:33:23,520
Speaker 1: But then.

2494
02:33:26,680 --> 02:33:28,040
Speaker 5: And what kind of crime did you commit to come here?

2495
02:33:29,079 --> 02:33:33,760
And you believe I was justifiable? Pero, They're gonna show

2496
02:33:33,799 --> 02:33:35,479
us how enough the cows here as well. I'm never

2497
02:33:35,799 --> 02:33:39,079
ca for so we're gonna give a little putt well

2498
02:33:40,840 --> 02:33:45,920
and nan Star Permes. There's no fact inmates as well,

2499
02:33:46,000 --> 02:33:49,280
Nania Sagordo, you said by a machet, just on the ground.

2500
02:33:53,120 --> 02:33:54,719
We just have ache on the ground, he says. Don't

2501
02:33:54,760 --> 02:33:56,360
even worry because they have so much trust in the inmates,

2502
02:33:56,600 --> 02:33:58,760
and these are even numbered to the inmates as well.

2503
02:33:59,000 --> 02:34:01,079
Now I think I'm not right. Horse never ridden a

2504
02:34:01,120 --> 02:34:03,680
horse of my entire life. We're doing here with some inmates,

2505
02:34:03,719 --> 02:34:04,319
your and El salvad or.

2506
02:34:04,319 --> 02:34:04,559
Speaker 2: Here we go.

2507
02:34:07,440 --> 02:34:09,440
Speaker 5: Okay, first Time'm not good. First I'm not good. We're

2508
02:34:09,440 --> 02:34:10,040
gonna do that again?

2509
02:34:10,079 --> 02:34:10,520
Speaker 1: They do?

2510
02:34:12,200 --> 02:34:12,799
Speaker 5: Oh, here we go.

2511
02:34:13,200 --> 02:34:15,559
Speaker 1: That's pretty much it. The rest of this is him

2512
02:34:16,760 --> 02:34:22,040
just enjoying the animals. So yeah, go ahead discuss. I mean,

2513
02:34:23,760 --> 02:34:28,079
here's something I'll throw out there. I think Nayibu Kelly

2514
02:34:28,239 --> 02:34:31,120
is a very intelligent man, and I think there are

2515
02:34:31,120 --> 02:34:35,000
a lot of very intelligent people in El Salvador. I

2516
02:34:35,120 --> 02:34:38,760
also don't think that anyone just inside of El Salvador

2517
02:34:39,319 --> 02:34:44,040
is responsible for planning all of this. So I'm wondering

2518
02:34:44,239 --> 02:34:50,280
who who may have been in on this, because I

2519
02:34:50,399 --> 02:34:54,159
think they had help in their design. Maybe I'm wrong.

2520
02:34:57,440 --> 02:34:59,719
I think it's perfect. I don't know who we're.

2521
02:35:01,120 --> 02:35:01,319
Speaker 2: Good.

2522
02:35:02,319 --> 02:35:07,159
Speaker 3: Well, as we've seen, right, there's there's a global left

2523
02:35:07,200 --> 02:35:10,239
network that that the USA D stuff has just sort

2524
02:35:10,280 --> 02:35:14,799
of sort of top surface talked about. And in fact,

2525
02:35:15,040 --> 02:35:16,559
you know, one of the things I've complained about the

2526
02:35:16,600 --> 02:35:19,639
most and on this show with others is is the

2527
02:35:19,680 --> 02:35:23,040
fact that we don't have such a network but winners win.

2528
02:35:23,840 --> 02:35:29,079
And one of the things that somebody, you know, Victor Worbon,

2529
02:35:29,239 --> 02:35:30,559
is trying to set up this sort of network. I

2530
02:35:30,600 --> 02:35:32,799
think he's He's probably got some of the wrong people,

2531
02:35:34,040 --> 02:35:37,200
you know, the Danube Institute or whatever, but they're they're

2532
02:35:37,200 --> 02:35:42,000
at least trying, And I think me Bukelly is smart

2533
02:35:42,040 --> 02:35:43,319
enough to know that he's not the only one with

2534
02:35:43,399 --> 02:35:46,079
good ideas, and that he probably brought in other people

2535
02:35:46,120 --> 02:35:48,399
with good ideas. You know that that's not out of

2536
02:35:48,440 --> 02:35:52,799
the realm of possibility. He's obviously a very canny politician.

2537
02:35:52,920 --> 02:35:55,200
Just this, the story of how he got elected mayor

2538
02:35:55,239 --> 02:35:57,319
and then how he was elected president, proved that he's

2539
02:35:57,719 --> 02:36:02,079
a smooth and shrewd political operation. Why why is it

2540
02:36:02,159 --> 02:36:04,319
impossible to think that he has a rolodactus of people

2541
02:36:05,559 --> 02:36:09,920
who aren't, you know, civilizationally hostile like of course he

2542
02:36:10,040 --> 02:36:14,239
probably did. No one can know everything, so why wouldn't he.

2543
02:36:16,239 --> 02:36:18,639
Speaker 1: Well, my I guess one of the things when I

2544
02:36:18,760 --> 02:36:25,360
see something like this, I think is is is this

2545
02:36:25,520 --> 02:36:28,760
a test for other places? Is it like, Okay, how

2546
02:36:29,319 --> 02:36:31,639
is this going to work? And are we going to

2547
02:36:31,719 --> 02:36:36,840
see this multiply and as well as this is running. Really,

2548
02:36:36,959 --> 02:36:41,319
the only thing that you can see holding it back

2549
02:36:41,440 --> 02:36:46,040
from happening in other countries and being adopted even here

2550
02:36:46,680 --> 02:36:51,920
by our individual states or counties or cities is that

2551
02:36:52,760 --> 02:36:59,920
entrenched bureaucracy and that entrenched you know, corruption. And yeah,

2552
02:37:00,079 --> 02:37:03,719
I mean, I don't know if there's I'm assuming I

2553
02:37:03,840 --> 02:37:07,879
have to assume just because of human nature that somebody

2554
02:37:08,159 --> 02:37:13,200
is profiting from what's happening there. But also if things

2555
02:37:13,319 --> 02:37:16,920
can run like that there and some kind of graft

2556
02:37:17,079 --> 02:37:22,680
is happening, it's still a better model for than what

2557
02:37:23,040 --> 02:37:25,559
most countries are doing right now.

2558
02:37:28,120 --> 02:37:31,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think to kind of combine the two points,

2559
02:37:31,799 --> 02:37:34,399
I think you're both right. I think somebody has their

2560
02:37:34,440 --> 02:37:36,719
hand in it, Pete. And I also think Dee's right

2561
02:37:36,760 --> 02:37:39,719
in that Naib has as a rolodex of guys that

2562
02:37:39,879 --> 02:37:43,200
know stuff. I would not be surprised, and obviously I

2563
02:37:43,239 --> 02:37:46,719
couldn't speak with any certainty, but I would not be

2564
02:37:46,799 --> 02:37:51,959
even slightly surprised to learn that Naib bu Kelly is

2565
02:37:53,040 --> 02:37:55,319
in his rolodex, had a bunch of guys that have

2566
02:37:55,479 --> 02:37:59,079
been trying to push this plan for twenty five years,

2567
02:37:59,239 --> 02:38:03,319
thirty years, there's minimum fifteen years. It's too well thought

2568
02:38:03,360 --> 02:38:07,680
out to be recent. It's probably been been checked and

2569
02:38:07,799 --> 02:38:11,239
rechecked and triple checked and quadruple checked. So I have

2570
02:38:11,360 --> 02:38:13,639
a feeling that this is this is a model that

2571
02:38:13,840 --> 02:38:17,879
some company, some organization somewhere has been trying to has

2572
02:38:17,959 --> 02:38:21,159
been shopping around in America and Europe and all over

2573
02:38:21,239 --> 02:38:24,760
the world for more than a decade. I'd be willing

2574
02:38:24,840 --> 02:38:26,840
to bet I'd bet a kidney on that in fact,

2575
02:38:27,520 --> 02:38:29,959
and it just so happens that they finally found a

2576
02:38:30,040 --> 02:38:33,120
winner in Bukelly, who said, you know what, I got

2577
02:38:33,200 --> 02:38:35,079
to do something with these people, and your plan's the

2578
02:38:35,120 --> 02:38:37,959
best one I've seen so far. You get the contract,

2579
02:38:39,040 --> 02:38:42,680
and it just so happens that I guarantee you because

2580
02:38:42,760 --> 02:38:45,680
remember just because I mean, I guarantee you not fall

2581
02:38:45,760 --> 02:38:49,639
into cynicism. Let's not fall into cynicism. People can still

2582
02:38:49,760 --> 02:38:53,680
make money and do good for humanity. You can do both.

2583
02:38:54,239 --> 02:38:57,920
You can make a doctor's salary and actually care about

2584
02:38:58,000 --> 02:39:02,239
your patients. So yeah, absolutely believe somebody's been shopping this

2585
02:39:02,399 --> 02:39:04,639
around and hopes to make millions of dollars on a

2586
02:39:04,680 --> 02:39:09,319
government contract. Does that automatically make them scammers or corrupt? No,

2587
02:39:10,159 --> 02:39:13,040
not at all, It doesn't. No, you can. You can

2588
02:39:13,159 --> 02:39:18,280
earn your paycheck, honestly, go aheaded well.

2589
02:39:18,440 --> 02:39:22,120
Speaker 3: I guarantee you. Someone in Bukeli's government got him a

2590
02:39:22,200 --> 02:39:28,399
copy of France list guaranteed, Because what do you do

2591
02:39:28,440 --> 02:39:32,040
when you're a poor country. You do as much autarchy

2592
02:39:32,079 --> 02:39:34,239
as you can. You don't have the resources to spend

2593
02:39:34,280 --> 02:39:37,840
money outside. Like for a long time, El Salvador's biggest

2594
02:39:37,840 --> 02:39:41,600
export was l salvadorance, and that's never You can't get

2595
02:39:41,680 --> 02:39:43,440
rich that way. You can't get prosperous that way. You

2596
02:39:43,520 --> 02:39:47,520
can't you can't build a decent, stable country when you

2597
02:39:47,639 --> 02:39:52,360
export all your young men. You know, there are entire

2598
02:39:52,479 --> 02:39:54,879
villages in Mexico that have moved to the United States. Like,

2599
02:39:54,920 --> 02:39:59,879
how is that good for Mexico? You can say, sa

2600
02:40:00,399 --> 02:40:03,719
like they're exploring their their you know, their stupid population

2601
02:40:03,959 --> 02:40:07,000
or their surplus population or whatever. But but over the

2602
02:40:07,079 --> 02:40:10,840
long term, you know, that's not a to the extent

2603
02:40:10,879 --> 02:40:12,319
that they do anything good. They're going to be doing

2604
02:40:12,360 --> 02:40:14,440
it for somebody else in another country, So it's not

2605
02:40:14,520 --> 02:40:18,680
good for Mexico or anywhere else. So look at all

2606
02:40:18,719 --> 02:40:23,680
that add tarchy, right, instead of instead of having to

2607
02:40:23,959 --> 02:40:28,520
you know, go to a factory somewhere else and import

2608
02:40:28,840 --> 02:40:32,520
school desks from Mexico or the United States or Argentina

2609
02:40:32,719 --> 02:40:39,200
or wherever they're building them there. And now there's people

2610
02:40:39,239 --> 02:40:41,479
who have you know, skills and fabrication that they can

2611
02:40:41,559 --> 02:40:46,719
take to the outside world. And they have you know,

2612
02:40:46,799 --> 02:40:49,040
the children of El salvad Or have functional schools with

2613
02:40:49,159 --> 02:40:51,319
the with the stuff that they need to study and improve.

2614
02:40:53,159 --> 02:40:55,879
Speaker 1: So someone.

2615
02:40:57,399 --> 02:41:00,159
Speaker 3: Puts some fragerical list in his hand, and you know,

2616
02:41:00,799 --> 02:41:03,479
you talked to Mike Maxwell before Pete. Everyone should go

2617
02:41:03,559 --> 02:41:06,600
check on Imperium Press and pick up you know, several

2618
02:41:06,639 --> 02:41:11,719
of their books because that that's where, you know, all

2619
02:41:11,760 --> 02:41:13,399
the real ideas are on our side of the fence.

2620
02:41:14,360 --> 02:41:16,520
All the good ideas and on our side of the fence.

2621
02:41:16,520 --> 02:41:19,399
And this proves it right. You know, there's been a

2622
02:41:19,440 --> 02:41:26,719
lot of criticism of Trump, justifiably I think in our sphere,

2623
02:41:27,479 --> 02:41:29,680
and I'm not going to defend the guy for not

2624
02:41:30,600 --> 02:41:35,639
having you know, for being stymied and check made it

2625
02:41:35,879 --> 02:41:38,079
at every turn or not pushing as hard on things

2626
02:41:38,120 --> 02:41:42,559
as you should have. But I think that's something that

2627
02:41:43,239 --> 02:41:48,040
does need to be said, is all of his ideas

2628
02:41:48,239 --> 02:41:50,280
and the things he says he wants to do that

2629
02:41:50,399 --> 02:41:53,520
the American people are saying that they want. They want

2630
02:41:53,559 --> 02:41:57,239
the mass deportations, they want the gangster in jail, they

2631
02:41:57,319 --> 02:42:02,399
want the government waste cut, they want you know, the

2632
02:42:03,440 --> 02:42:06,920
illegals off the welfare rules. They want you know, the

2633
02:42:06,959 --> 02:42:10,079
Department of Education shut down. Right, all of those things.

2634
02:42:11,559 --> 02:42:14,159
The ideas are fantastic. It's the execution where Trump, I think,

2635
02:42:14,239 --> 02:42:21,239
is falling down and they're all, what are people? Our

2636
02:42:21,280 --> 02:42:23,440
people were the ones talking about these ideas five, ten,

2637
02:42:23,520 --> 02:42:26,479
fifteen years ago, and now they're mainstream. And I think

2638
02:42:26,520 --> 02:42:27,399
that's a very big deal.

2639
02:42:29,000 --> 02:42:31,479
Speaker 1: Jose, why don't you, why don't you jump in and

2640
02:42:31,600 --> 02:42:38,319
talk about how how are economic libertarian priors but up

2641
02:42:38,440 --> 02:42:39,559
so hard against this?

2642
02:42:41,719 --> 02:42:46,040
Speaker 6: Well, one thing I like about the l Salvadorian case

2643
02:42:46,520 --> 02:42:50,479
is that it kind of goes beyond like higher discussions

2644
02:42:50,760 --> 02:42:54,280
of reducing everything to whether if it's like humane for

2645
02:42:54,360 --> 02:42:59,440
the individual or just anything that's centered around the individual.

2646
02:42:59,559 --> 02:43:02,440
But rather they're like it it asks like a tough

2647
02:43:02,559 --> 02:43:05,760
question like how do what do we do with a

2648
02:43:05,840 --> 02:43:10,280
bunch of criminals and other malcontents in society and put

2649
02:43:10,319 --> 02:43:13,360
them to service to the state. Like, obviously they're not

2650
02:43:13,440 --> 02:43:16,840
gonna rehabilitate all of these people, but at least with

2651
02:43:16,920 --> 02:43:22,840
these programs in Osalvador, they will at least put put

2652
02:43:22,879 --> 02:43:26,319
them to work towards something bigger that the state and

2653
02:43:26,440 --> 02:43:29,760
broader society can benefit from. That's something that you'll just

2654
02:43:29,959 --> 02:43:37,000
never hear in uh, the really like neoliberal dominated West,

2655
02:43:37,079 --> 02:43:41,600
where things are just centered around growing the GDP or

2656
02:43:41,840 --> 02:43:46,040
satisfying individual demand. There's no real discussion about whether it

2657
02:43:46,159 --> 02:43:50,680
benefits society and like posterity in the long term. Yeah,

2658
02:43:50,760 --> 02:43:53,399
I think like as well, this is a clear dunk

2659
02:43:53,639 --> 02:43:58,280
on But Kelly is a clear dunk also on libertarians

2660
02:43:58,319 --> 02:44:01,399
and especially the NGO space, because actually have some experience

2661
02:44:02,000 --> 02:44:05,680
over a decade ago working with a good deal of

2662
02:44:06,360 --> 02:44:10,600
libertarians that were working in Latin America, and fast forward

2663
02:44:10,600 --> 02:44:12,440
to the present, I see a lot of these people,

2664
02:44:12,959 --> 02:44:18,559
same people still libertarian and still trashing Bukelly because of

2665
02:44:18,719 --> 02:44:21,799
the simple fact that he is using top down state

2666
02:44:22,040 --> 02:44:28,159
action to affect positive societal change, and it completely goes

2667
02:44:28,239 --> 02:44:32,319
against many of these people's assumptions about how you can

2668
02:44:32,399 --> 02:44:35,440
make things happen. And to touch out on the point

2669
02:44:35,639 --> 02:44:39,760
about whether bu Kelly learned these ideas from other people,

2670
02:44:39,840 --> 02:44:42,520
if he was getting advice, I think it's highlights and

2671
02:44:42,600 --> 02:44:46,120
importance for people that are getting into politics that it's

2672
02:44:46,159 --> 02:44:49,840
all about building not only like human human relations, but

2673
02:44:50,000 --> 02:44:56,319
even more complex networks to be able to affect political change,

2674
02:44:56,440 --> 02:44:58,840
because no man is an island in this game, so

2675
02:44:59,040 --> 02:45:01,799
you have to not only be able to interact with people,

2676
02:45:01,879 --> 02:45:05,399
but build actual structures that go beyond election cycles that

2677
02:45:05,440 --> 02:45:09,600
you can pass on to future generations. Because and it's

2678
02:45:09,680 --> 02:45:13,840
why I also don't quit when it comes to writing content.

2679
02:45:13,920 --> 02:45:17,280
I tell other people who have like bold ideas for

2680
02:45:17,399 --> 02:45:20,600
fixing society to continue to do this because who knows

2681
02:45:20,840 --> 02:45:23,959
that blog post that you made a few years ago

2682
02:45:24,000 --> 02:45:27,680
could serve as a contemplate for some reformer down the line.

2683
02:45:27,840 --> 02:45:31,159
And Latin America is actually, in many ways a really

2684
02:45:31,200 --> 02:45:33,479
good key tree dish for a lot of these ideas,

2685
02:45:33,520 --> 02:45:37,840
because unlike the West, which has very well entrenched deep

2686
02:45:37,920 --> 02:45:41,879
states and permanent bureaucracies, a lot of Latin American countries

2687
02:45:41,920 --> 02:45:46,639
are still very stuck in rudimentary phases of their state development.

2688
02:45:47,239 --> 02:45:50,799
So it sometimes no matter of having the right person

2689
02:45:51,200 --> 02:45:54,600
with the right advisors and network giving them support to

2690
02:45:55,840 --> 02:46:00,520
implement drastic changes. So that's one thing some people can

2691
02:46:00,600 --> 02:46:01,520
learn from this example.

2692
02:46:03,120 --> 02:46:06,079
Speaker 1: Well, I think another thing is that if you talk

2693
02:46:06,120 --> 02:46:09,920
about how, you know El Salvador is basically what their

2694
02:46:10,040 --> 02:46:13,280
main export has been for a long time is El Salvadorans,

2695
02:46:14,040 --> 02:46:18,639
and how the way they're setting up this economy is

2696
02:46:18,760 --> 02:46:21,959
helping to rebuild Well, I mean, what's been our main

2697
02:46:22,120 --> 02:46:26,280
import for the last twenty years? It's been people from

2698
02:46:26,319 --> 02:46:32,079
other countries? And what has been export America? That's been

2699
02:46:32,120 --> 02:46:35,680
our main import. Yeah, and what's been our main export?

2700
02:46:37,680 --> 02:46:40,079
I mean does anybody can anybody really answer that what

2701
02:46:40,280 --> 02:46:48,760
our main export has been in the last twenty years? Intellectual? Ay? Yeah,

2702
02:46:49,280 --> 02:46:54,680
the gay. I mean this is not only a model

2703
02:46:54,879 --> 02:46:57,760
for a country of six point six million in the

2704
02:46:57,799 --> 02:47:01,200
middle of Central America. This is a model for the

2705
02:47:01,239 --> 02:47:04,200
way we have to approach this. We have to start

2706
02:47:04,239 --> 02:47:07,040
building our own things again. We have to we need

2707
02:47:07,120 --> 02:47:10,040
to start building our desks, We need to start building.

2708
02:47:10,079 --> 02:47:13,360
You know, if I look around, you know, at the

2709
02:47:13,479 --> 02:47:16,479
things in the room or on my desk in front

2710
02:47:16,520 --> 02:47:18,799
of me, you know, I question whether I know one

2711
02:47:18,799 --> 02:47:20,760
of these is made in Australia. I don't know where

2712
02:47:20,840 --> 02:47:23,520
the hell the computer was made and everything, but I

2713
02:47:23,600 --> 02:47:25,520
would I would assume half of the stuff here is

2714
02:47:25,559 --> 02:47:28,120
made in China, right, And China has a place called

2715
02:47:28,239 --> 02:47:31,360
Sox City where they just make the socks for the world.

2716
02:47:33,159 --> 02:47:37,639
So just make socks. What is stopping us from doing this?

2717
02:47:38,159 --> 02:47:42,280
And really think about this, what is stopping us from

2718
02:47:42,959 --> 02:47:46,600
if you want to start manufacturing these small little things

2719
02:47:46,719 --> 02:47:50,760
that everyone uses, that every school uses, that every office

2720
02:47:50,799 --> 02:47:55,479
building us, that every government building uses, that we have,

2721
02:47:55,680 --> 02:47:57,799
how many prisons do we have, and how many prisoners

2722
02:47:57,879 --> 02:48:00,399
do we have right now? They'll just pop in the

2723
02:48:00,440 --> 02:48:04,799
world millions of people. Yeah, I mean, you have a

2724
02:48:04,920 --> 02:48:08,000
workforce right here. And if you're if we're at the

2725
02:48:08,120 --> 02:48:11,479
point where it's like we may need to start arresting

2726
02:48:11,680 --> 02:48:20,520
judges and shipping them to El Salvador, let's start doing

2727
02:48:20,639 --> 02:48:24,559
things that are going to piss off the same people

2728
02:48:24,600 --> 02:48:27,760
who are pissed off about you know, when we I

2729
02:48:27,959 --> 02:48:31,959
heard one of these fucking women on TV the other

2730
02:48:32,079 --> 02:48:35,920
day who was like who was basically said that Trump

2731
02:48:36,520 --> 02:48:40,879
was not allowed to do something because a circuit court judge,

2732
02:48:41,000 --> 02:48:43,680
it had to go through a circuit court. Judge. First,

2733
02:48:44,120 --> 02:48:45,959
are you fucking kidding me?

2734
02:48:46,399 --> 02:48:47,479
Speaker 6: Try parchy in action?

2735
02:48:48,600 --> 02:48:52,520
Speaker 1: I mean it is basically, I mean, we're back to

2736
02:48:52,639 --> 02:48:58,479
the fucking longhouse. No, fuck you put these fucking prisoners

2737
02:48:58,520 --> 02:49:02,280
to work, make them build ship, build the fucking factories.

2738
02:49:03,079 --> 02:49:05,040
I know a lot of that was in Spanish, so

2739
02:49:05,239 --> 02:49:07,319
people who were just listening to this aren't here. But

2740
02:49:07,440 --> 02:49:09,959
what the what what they said at one point was

2741
02:49:11,280 --> 02:49:14,319
these factories didn't exist where where all this stuff these

2742
02:49:14,360 --> 02:49:19,440
persons are doing. These buildings didn't exist before Bukelly he

2743
02:49:19,680 --> 02:49:24,600
even built these. Yeah, and this is one of those

2744
02:49:24,639 --> 02:49:25,920
things like you can just do things.

2745
02:49:26,600 --> 02:49:30,959
Speaker 3: A prison that holds, yes, twenty five thousand people, twenty

2746
02:49:31,000 --> 02:49:34,760
five thousand people, wasn't that's a small town. He built

2747
02:49:34,799 --> 02:49:37,920
a built a prison that holds a small town and

2748
02:49:38,440 --> 02:49:40,840
all of these factories and all of these farms.

2749
02:49:42,319 --> 02:49:45,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he says, to jump to your point, yeah, he says,

2750
02:49:45,479 --> 02:49:48,760
he says, it's not even a prison. His exact words are,

2751
02:49:48,840 --> 02:49:53,079
it's an industrial complex. And he's right, that speaks to

2752
02:49:53,200 --> 02:49:57,639
your point. That's that's its own little civilization, which is

2753
02:49:57,719 --> 02:49:59,719
what they're doing with these people. And I think that

2754
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:05,799
can't be overlooked. They're civilizing most of these people. That's

2755
02:50:05,879 --> 02:50:08,479
the point again, I don't want to get mired in

2756
02:50:08,520 --> 02:50:13,040
the weeds where they're civilizing these people. That should be

2757
02:50:13,200 --> 02:50:16,879
the goal again. The goal is, yes, we should make things.

2758
02:50:17,040 --> 02:50:19,239
I'm not saying we shouldn't. But the goal is to

2759
02:50:19,360 --> 02:50:22,360
civilize people and to get them to be productive so

2760
02:50:22,440 --> 02:50:25,399
that they can make things, so they can as to

2761
02:50:25,520 --> 02:50:29,799
address your point earlier, Jose, they can do things for posterity,

2762
02:50:30,159 --> 02:50:33,799
they can build the strength for today and tomorrow.

2763
02:50:34,239 --> 02:50:38,040
Speaker 3: Goddee, can you imagine an American prison where there's just

2764
02:50:38,079 --> 02:50:40,040
a machete lying around and then someone who picks it

2765
02:50:40,120 --> 02:50:48,559
up doesn't immediately get shot. No, I mean this was

2766
02:50:48,600 --> 02:50:51,879
a full on like machete. It was probably twenty inches long,

2767
02:50:52,000 --> 02:50:56,000
steel like like you could, dangerous weapon in any kind

2768
02:50:56,040 --> 02:51:01,079
of hands like you know, and justifiable right like any

2769
02:51:01,440 --> 02:51:04,639
and you know, if you don't think it's an incredibly

2770
02:51:04,719 --> 02:51:08,120
dangerous weapon, like you've never seen what what kind of

2771
02:51:08,159 --> 02:51:13,959
reach like an andrew weapon can give somebody extremely dangerous

2772
02:51:14,040 --> 02:51:18,600
in the wrong hands. But they have said like now

2773
02:51:18,680 --> 02:51:24,000
we're gonna make people better. You know, people, people were

2774
02:51:24,040 --> 02:51:27,600
on drugs, people were robbing people. You know, they take

2775
02:51:27,639 --> 02:51:29,639
all the hard cre criminals and sent into that one prison,

2776
02:51:30,200 --> 02:51:32,040
But then they take everyone else who's just you know,

2777
02:51:33,000 --> 02:51:36,200
a person in a bad situation, and they say, all right,

2778
02:51:36,319 --> 02:51:37,239
well you got a chance.

2779
02:51:38,040 --> 02:51:41,319
Speaker 1: Well, and if they make a mistake and they put

2780
02:51:41,520 --> 02:51:45,399
somebody who belongs in the hardcore prison forever, and they

2781
02:51:45,479 --> 02:51:48,040
put that person in the workers prison and they don't

2782
02:51:48,079 --> 02:51:50,840
work out, you take them out and you put them

2783
02:51:50,879 --> 02:51:55,399
in the hardcore prison. Also, it's also a filtering mechanism. Okay,

2784
02:51:55,440 --> 02:51:57,559
so we watched the thousands.

2785
02:51:57,200 --> 02:52:01,239
Speaker 2: Of people in that They even say in that context

2786
02:52:01,399 --> 02:52:05,239
they say, this area of the complex is our most

2787
02:52:05,319 --> 02:52:08,879
trustworthy prisoners where they had the machete, and I would

2788
02:52:08,920 --> 02:52:11,120
wager the pete you're one hundred percent correct. And they

2789
02:52:11,200 --> 02:52:15,200
got there because they demonstrated their trustworthiness. Another thing I

2790
02:52:15,280 --> 02:52:17,200
want to bring up that I think is crucial to

2791
02:52:17,280 --> 02:52:21,280
point out is it goes back to it basically proves

2792
02:52:21,360 --> 02:52:23,719
what I had said earlier in the program. You're giving

2793
02:52:23,879 --> 02:52:26,920
these people hope with this program, you're giving them something

2794
02:52:27,000 --> 02:52:29,000
to do. And I'll just raise two points and I'll

2795
02:52:29,040 --> 02:52:31,399
see the floor very quickly. The first is, if you

2796
02:52:31,559 --> 02:52:35,520
notice they said we're taking time off your sentence if

2797
02:52:35,600 --> 02:52:39,479
you work. So not only are they keeping busy, they

2798
02:52:39,520 --> 02:52:43,399
are actually helping themselves as well. There is a healthy

2799
02:52:43,440 --> 02:52:46,719
amount of self interest in there, which is good. Self

2800
02:52:46,799 --> 02:52:51,680
interest isn't inherently evil. So that's a positive right there.

2801
02:52:52,239 --> 02:52:54,360
And the other thing that I think is really important

2802
02:52:54,399 --> 02:52:57,120
to note is what were the crimes of most of

2803
02:52:57,200 --> 02:53:02,319
the people in the higher trust area. Robbery, drugs. It

2804
02:53:02,440 --> 02:53:06,559
wasn't rape, it wasn't murder, it wasn't even it wasn't

2805
02:53:06,600 --> 02:53:08,079
even a lot of the other things. It was, like

2806
02:53:08,200 --> 02:53:10,360
you said, like we talked about earlier, that segment of

2807
02:53:10,399 --> 02:53:13,440
the population where hey, I grew up in an incredibly

2808
02:53:13,600 --> 02:53:17,559
dysfunctional community, whether it be family or just the town,

2809
02:53:18,120 --> 02:53:21,040
and this is just what we did to survive. But

2810
02:53:21,200 --> 02:53:24,879
now that somebody has shown me there is another way

2811
02:53:24,959 --> 02:53:29,680
to survive that is pro social, I'll do it. And

2812
02:53:29,799 --> 02:53:33,120
now I'm reaping the benefits of it. So I'll see

2813
02:53:33,159 --> 02:53:34,680
the floor now that I just wanted to mention those

2814
02:53:34,719 --> 02:53:37,200
two points, I just I just have one point about

2815
02:53:37,239 --> 02:53:39,520
the dog that didn't bark. Do you guys notice one

2816
02:53:39,559 --> 02:53:44,959
thing that was totally absent? Women and the hundreds and

2817
02:53:45,040 --> 02:53:49,399
hundreds of prisoners we saw, well women, women, first of all. Secondly,

2818
02:53:51,000 --> 02:53:53,959
you've seen lots of pictures of elsavad Or in prisons.

2819
02:53:54,000 --> 02:54:00,239
What was completely absent. I didn't see a single with

2820
02:54:00,360 --> 02:54:01,239
a face tattoo.

2821
02:54:01,959 --> 02:54:05,559
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, not one. Hundreds and hundreds of people we

2822
02:54:05,600 --> 02:54:09,159
saw in this video. Now might some of them, might

2823
02:54:09,200 --> 02:54:13,559
have been repeats or whatever, but hundreds of people and

2824
02:54:13,879 --> 02:54:15,799
not a one with gang tattoos.

2825
02:54:17,360 --> 02:54:17,760
Speaker 1: Not a one.

2826
02:54:20,520 --> 02:54:22,719
Speaker 3: So that's you know, I mean, Charles has made this point,

2827
02:54:22,719 --> 02:54:25,079
and I've made this point the point before, but like

2828
02:54:25,840 --> 02:54:31,079
if in America that you know, Charles is always talking

2829
02:54:31,079 --> 02:54:33,040
about the proto principle, and I firmly agree with him.

2830
02:54:33,239 --> 02:54:35,159
Speaker 1: Like you could just take, like.

2831
02:54:36,200 --> 02:54:39,760
Speaker 3: Go to Los Angeles, any dude wearing red, any dude

2832
02:54:39,799 --> 02:54:42,959
wearing blue in a certain neighborhood, just grab him and

2833
02:54:43,000 --> 02:54:46,239
throw them in prison. Why because he's a member of

2834
02:54:46,239 --> 02:54:50,079
the blazz He's remember the crips. You know, if he's

2835
02:54:50,360 --> 02:54:55,719
if he's wearing certain things right, he's he's if he's

2836
02:54:55,760 --> 02:54:58,600
got the Latin King's tattoo of the crown on his chest,

2837
02:54:59,239 --> 02:55:01,959
just throw him in prison. You know, you can just

2838
02:55:02,079 --> 02:55:04,719
do things. And and one of the things that Pete

2839
02:55:04,719 --> 02:55:06,639
talked about this is federal judge. How many of these

2840
02:55:06,680 --> 02:55:09,559
federal judges are actually Americans? I think I think one

2841
02:55:09,600 --> 02:55:15,120
of them was like a Asian lesbian immigrant or something.

2842
02:55:16,079 --> 02:55:20,719
Speaker 1: Right likes you have, Yeah, I mean Asians like I'm.

2843
02:55:20,600 --> 02:55:24,600
Speaker 3: Born here, right there, and and so right. They they

2844
02:55:24,639 --> 02:55:26,479
have ascended to the highest place they can in the

2845
02:55:26,520 --> 02:55:27,319
worst place they can.

2846
02:55:27,479 --> 02:55:27,600
Speaker 1: Right.

2847
02:55:28,959 --> 02:55:31,079
Speaker 3: Why why are why were these people given places in

2848
02:55:31,120 --> 02:55:33,280
American law schools to the point where they could become

2849
02:55:33,280 --> 02:55:40,520
federal judges? Why you know, and I'm going to steal

2850
02:55:40,600 --> 02:55:45,799
Charles's line, you don't have female judges because then you're

2851
02:55:45,840 --> 02:55:48,920
literally entraining the opinion of a woman into law, and

2852
02:55:49,399 --> 02:55:52,479
as Amy Coney Barrett has shown, it's just a bad idea.

2853
02:55:52,959 --> 02:55:53,079
Speaker 2: Right.

2854
02:55:53,159 --> 02:55:56,799
Speaker 3: I don't regard I don't regard any any any decision

2855
02:55:56,879 --> 02:56:02,920
by the Supreme Court where Katanji Brown Jackson is in

2856
02:56:03,000 --> 02:56:05,319
the majority as valid because I don't think any of

2857
02:56:05,399 --> 02:56:08,079
her decisions are valid. I don't think any decisions where

2858
02:56:08,600 --> 02:56:11,239
Sonya slid or is the deciding vote are valid because

2859
02:56:11,239 --> 02:56:12,760
I don't think any of your disistants are valid. Like

2860
02:56:12,760 --> 02:56:14,200
you can say, but with us the rules, like I don't,

2861
02:56:14,239 --> 02:56:20,200
I reject your premise entirely. I don't think that that Jews,

2862
02:56:20,360 --> 02:56:22,760
or women, or you know, like any of these people

2863
02:56:22,799 --> 02:56:25,159
have any right to tell me what the law is

2864
02:56:25,280 --> 02:56:28,360
because their interests in mine and the interests of a

2865
02:56:28,399 --> 02:56:31,239
stable civilization that works are completely.

2866
02:56:32,399 --> 02:56:36,959
Speaker 1: At odds. And you know what, whether.

2867
02:56:38,360 --> 02:56:40,879
Speaker 3: You know there was shadowy in GEO funding to make

2868
02:56:40,920 --> 02:56:43,680
ol salvad Or a horrible place, or shadowy NGO funding

2869
02:56:43,760 --> 02:56:47,959
to make our salvad Or a functional place, it doesn't

2870
02:56:48,000 --> 02:56:55,239
really matter. What matters is that all across the world

2871
02:56:55,399 --> 02:56:58,000
right now, you know, we're tittering in the brank of recession.

2872
02:56:58,079 --> 02:57:01,639
Probably if you if you was, you know, shadows stats

2873
02:57:01,680 --> 02:57:05,479
numbers were probably in one. There's a huge government debts

2874
02:57:05,479 --> 02:57:08,840
all over the place. Europe's bankrupt, doesn't really doesn't really

2875
02:57:08,920 --> 02:57:11,799
have a military. There's the wars in the Middle East

2876
02:57:11,879 --> 02:57:16,239
and the war and Armenia, and the war in Ukraine,

2877
02:57:16,319 --> 02:57:22,200
and and you know, the immigration problems here, the government

2878
02:57:22,280 --> 02:57:28,760
debt problems here, Like the world purpopos of system is

2879
02:57:28,799 --> 02:57:30,559
what it does. And the world system that we're under

2880
02:57:30,639 --> 02:57:34,399
right now is leading to you know, mass bankruptcy all

2881
02:57:34,440 --> 02:57:42,200
over the world and completely dysfunctional governments. So maybe we

2882
02:57:42,239 --> 02:57:47,079
should change that so that it works. I don't know, like,

2883
02:57:47,319 --> 02:57:50,639
call me crazy. And and if the constant if Abraham Lincoln,

2884
02:57:50,680 --> 02:57:52,719
who I'm no fan of, as as all three you

2885
02:57:52,799 --> 02:57:55,479
guys know, right, like I come from the anti Lincoln

2886
02:57:55,520 --> 02:58:00,000
school of libertarianism, he is right about if the constants

2887
02:58:00,040 --> 02:58:03,360
tution isn't a suicide pact, then these federal judges just

2888
02:58:03,479 --> 02:58:05,000
have to go like they just have to be told,

2889
02:58:05,079 --> 02:58:08,680
be quiet. We don't have the money. We can't just

2890
02:58:08,799 --> 02:58:14,639
print the money. Yeah, you know, India and China is

2891
02:58:14,680 --> 02:58:19,399
half the world's population put together. There's your Russia's got

2892
02:58:19,440 --> 02:58:20,840
all the natural resources in the world.

2893
02:58:21,360 --> 02:58:21,719
Speaker 1: Bricks.

2894
02:58:22,559 --> 02:58:26,719
Speaker 3: If they stop trading the dollars, we're screwed. We can't

2895
02:58:26,799 --> 02:58:29,959
just keep printing money. We have to start actually living

2896
02:58:30,000 --> 02:58:31,639
within our means in some sort of meaningful way.

2897
02:58:34,360 --> 02:58:36,680
Speaker 2: When you talk about you, when you talk about the

2898
02:58:37,319 --> 02:58:39,840
you can just do things. That's that's been both a

2899
02:58:39,920 --> 02:58:43,479
hopeful phrase and an infuriating phrase to me. But I

2900
02:58:43,520 --> 02:58:44,959
want to point I want to just touch on that

2901
02:58:45,120 --> 02:58:47,799
very very briefly because to go back to your point

2902
02:58:47,840 --> 02:58:50,719
earlier Pete about mess around and find out I gave

2903
02:58:50,840 --> 02:58:53,200
up swearing for lent, so it's going to be mess

2904
02:58:53,280 --> 02:58:56,840
around and find out that America has to take more

2905
02:58:56,879 --> 02:58:58,959
of that attitude. I agree with you, Pete, and I

2906
02:58:59,079 --> 02:59:01,120
just want to say point that out to make that

2907
02:59:01,360 --> 02:59:06,639
readily apparent to listeners. Remember what really stopped the Summer

2908
02:59:06,719 --> 02:59:10,319
of Love and the George Floyd riots? Remember what really

2909
02:59:10,399 --> 02:59:14,280
stopped it? Remember what really stopped that Soros funded brick

2910
02:59:14,399 --> 02:59:17,600
throwing machine. It was one guy with an AR fifteen.

2911
02:59:18,760 --> 02:59:19,639
That's what stopped it.

2912
02:59:20,399 --> 02:59:20,680
Speaker 1: That's it.

2913
02:59:21,200 --> 02:59:24,879
Speaker 2: One guy because he shot two pet three what two

2914
02:59:24,959 --> 02:59:28,520
Petter asks, three Petter asks and killed them, like, go

2915
02:59:28,680 --> 02:59:31,920
killed two of them. I mean, that's really what stopped it.

2916
02:59:32,159 --> 02:59:34,159
One guy because people messed around.

2917
02:59:34,000 --> 02:59:40,360
Speaker 1: And I feel like one and two chemos Okay, I think, yeah, something.

2918
02:59:40,360 --> 02:59:43,120
Speaker 2: But the point I'm making is to Pete's statement, we

2919
02:59:43,239 --> 02:59:48,559
have to we have to bring actual, actual consequences to Pete,

2920
02:59:48,559 --> 02:59:51,799
but legal consequences, of course, with self defense. He was acquitted.

2921
02:59:52,319 --> 02:59:55,879
You don't work, but law enforcement shootings things like that.

2922
02:59:56,520 --> 02:59:59,440
But they have to return, and if they do again,

2923
02:59:59,760 --> 03:00:03,159
I'll be my usual white pill pushing self. I think

2924
03:00:03,239 --> 03:00:06,399
you'll see a lot of things turn around if people

2925
03:00:06,479 --> 03:00:10,040
are allowed to start defending themselves again and dishing out

2926
03:00:10,159 --> 03:00:14,879
consequences legally to people. I really think that things will

2927
03:00:14,920 --> 03:00:17,200
turn around much faster than you would expect.

2928
03:00:18,600 --> 03:00:20,799
Speaker 3: And actually, to your point in one that that Charles,

2929
03:00:21,760 --> 03:00:26,000
the thing that really needs to happen is the people

2930
03:00:26,079 --> 03:00:28,719
at the prosecutor and the Daniel Penny case. They need

2931
03:00:28,760 --> 03:00:34,000
to go to prison, yes, or abuse of power? Yeah, oh, absolutely,

2932
03:00:34,000 --> 03:00:37,319
all those people need to be The courts need to

2933
03:00:37,399 --> 03:00:42,559
be clean. It needs to be wiped clean. There's they

2934
03:00:42,600 --> 03:00:44,799
cannot be. It can't be allowed to go on like this.

2935
03:00:45,479 --> 03:00:47,879
I mean, if the president has if all power is

2936
03:00:47,959 --> 03:00:50,719
in the executive he has to be able to clean

2937
03:00:50,799 --> 03:00:54,479
that out. And even if and even if everyone stands

2938
03:00:54,559 --> 03:00:56,159
up and says no, you still have to be able

2939
03:00:56,200 --> 03:00:58,079
to stand up and clean that out.

2940
03:00:58,639 --> 03:01:03,959
Speaker 1: It just we're I mean, it's a friggin we're going

2941
03:01:04,040 --> 03:01:04,600
off the cliff.

2942
03:01:05,200 --> 03:01:05,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2943
03:01:05,479 --> 03:01:06,200
Speaker 1: Not only so.

2944
03:01:06,760 --> 03:01:09,159
Speaker 3: I saw some of the recently, a bunch of people,

2945
03:01:09,639 --> 03:01:13,959
supposed conservatives talking about how you know, the president can't

2946
03:01:14,000 --> 03:01:16,920
constrain money being spent by the other Like, don't tell

2947
03:01:16,959 --> 03:01:22,040
me you care about the constitution. Okay, it was recently,

2948
03:01:22,120 --> 03:01:24,079
you know, March, it's March twenty seconds. So last week

2949
03:01:24,159 --> 03:01:26,239
was the eyes of March March fifteenth, date of the

2950
03:01:26,280 --> 03:01:30,920
assassination of Julius Caesar. Well, you know, when I was

2951
03:01:31,680 --> 03:01:35,799
more conservative and less understanding the way power actually works,

2952
03:01:36,079 --> 03:01:38,600
I thought the Senate was like doing the right thing

2953
03:01:38,680 --> 03:01:42,319
by often this dangerous dictator like No, Actually, Julius Caesar

2954
03:01:42,479 --> 03:01:44,719
was trying to fix the dysfunctional system by cutting through

2955
03:01:44,719 --> 03:01:48,120
the Gordian knot. And whether that's Naib bu Kelly or

2956
03:01:48,280 --> 03:01:54,000
Victor orbon or whoever, or Donald Trump, what you need

2957
03:01:54,600 --> 03:01:57,920
is energy in the executive to actually solve the problems

2958
03:01:59,319 --> 03:02:03,280
in the UK. Right now, you have judges giving rapists

2959
03:02:03,559 --> 03:02:07,639
three year sentences who and then they'll give nationalists who

2960
03:02:07,639 --> 03:02:11,840
put up flyers five year sentences. Those judges need to

2961
03:02:11,879 --> 03:02:14,000
be tossed out on their ear and then put in

2962
03:02:14,120 --> 03:02:17,079
prison for abuse of power and destruction of their nation.

2963
03:02:18,680 --> 03:02:23,600
American judges who give no you know, light sentences to

2964
03:02:23,719 --> 03:02:28,680
criminals and then throw Americans in due legs for January sixth,

2965
03:02:29,000 --> 03:02:33,360
they need to go to prison. Non American judges who

2966
03:02:33,399 --> 03:02:37,000
are immigrants who come here, you know, who are sexual

2967
03:02:37,079 --> 03:02:40,840
perverts who are just against Donald Trump because he's a straight, heterosexual,

2968
03:02:40,840 --> 03:02:46,559
white American and they're not. They need to go to prison,

2969
03:02:47,479 --> 03:02:50,399
and this whole rule of law nonsense, like, don't tell

2970
03:02:50,479 --> 03:02:52,719
me about the rule of law. I remember twenty twenty.

2971
03:02:53,000 --> 03:02:55,399
You want to be unemployed, you want to be out

2972
03:02:55,399 --> 03:02:56,959
of a job, you want to be out of my house.

2973
03:02:57,000 --> 03:02:58,760
You wanted my kids turned against me. You wanted to

2974
03:02:58,840 --> 03:03:02,399
forcely vaccinate my chi. You wanted to outlaw homeschool and

2975
03:03:02,479 --> 03:03:06,440
you wanted to outlaw private schools. And now you want

2976
03:03:06,479 --> 03:03:10,799
to talk about the rules. You want to talk about

2977
03:03:10,799 --> 03:03:14,719
the rules. Bro, You're the one who said jungle ball rules.

2978
03:03:14,799 --> 03:03:16,920
I'm just the one saying, Okay, that's the way you

2979
03:03:17,000 --> 03:03:24,719
wanted to play. Don't ever let a leftist tommy scum

2980
03:03:24,879 --> 03:03:29,040
tell you about well the rules. They're the ones who

2981
03:03:29,159 --> 03:03:33,079
let negroes burn down half of America's major cities. They're

2982
03:03:33,120 --> 03:03:35,760
the reason. They're the reason you can't go in downtown

2983
03:03:35,840 --> 03:03:38,000
of any American city and not step on human feces

2984
03:03:38,040 --> 03:03:45,239
and needles. Don't tell me about rules. Why are you

2985
03:03:45,360 --> 03:03:54,159
quoting laws to me? I have swords. Rules are for

2986
03:03:54,360 --> 03:03:58,559
games between people who agree to play a game. Charles

2987
03:03:58,600 --> 03:03:59,959
and I can sit down and have a game of chess.

2988
03:04:00,760 --> 03:04:03,799
There are rules in chess. I can't just suck Charles

2989
03:04:03,840 --> 03:04:05,799
in the mouth when he takes my queen because it

2990
03:04:05,840 --> 03:04:12,239
annoys me. Okay, but when you say, all right, let's

2991
03:04:12,239 --> 03:04:15,040
sit down to have a game of chess, and then oh,

2992
03:04:15,159 --> 03:04:16,920
every time I take one of your pawns, I get

2993
03:04:16,959 --> 03:04:20,559
to kill one of your kids. Oh that's not a

2994
03:04:20,639 --> 03:04:26,879
game anymore. I get to impoverish you. Like, no, that's

2995
03:04:26,920 --> 03:04:29,639
not how this works. You don't get to destroy my

2996
03:04:29,719 --> 03:04:36,639
country because you're resentful, you know, small souled non American.

2997
03:04:37,920 --> 03:04:39,879
I'm sorry, you suck, and you the place you come

2998
03:04:39,920 --> 03:04:43,639
from sucks, and your people have a low genetic capability

2999
03:04:43,879 --> 03:04:49,000
and mind don't sorry. I'm part Canadian, so I can't

3000
03:04:49,040 --> 03:04:52,959
help it. But like, that's not the way these things go.

3001
03:04:56,639 --> 03:04:58,600
You can't weaponize the law against people for years and

3002
03:04:58,680 --> 03:05:00,280
years and years at a time and then and then

3003
03:05:00,360 --> 03:05:06,000
be like, ooh, the laws being violated. Charles can't swear,

3004
03:05:06,079 --> 03:05:08,760
So but I can't go fuck yourself.

3005
03:05:09,879 --> 03:05:16,440
Speaker 1: Thank you, Oz, you got anything.

3006
03:05:19,520 --> 03:05:21,799
Speaker 2: Well, one thing.

3007
03:05:23,319 --> 03:05:26,239
Speaker 6: That stuck out to me that Charles mentioned just how

3008
03:05:26,600 --> 03:05:33,559
ridiculous the logic of forced integration has permeated to every

3009
03:05:33,680 --> 03:05:37,680
facet of American society. Like, look at the prison system.

3010
03:05:38,280 --> 03:05:42,079
I like the fact that in contrast to the US model,

3011
03:05:42,120 --> 03:05:46,600
the Saladorian model does make a difference between having.

3012
03:05:49,120 --> 03:05:50,479
Speaker 1: A separating the clear.

3013
03:05:52,000 --> 03:05:54,799
Speaker 6: The clear cases of people that cannot be reformed, like

3014
03:05:54,920 --> 03:05:58,799
these gang bangers and all from like the other common

3015
03:05:58,879 --> 03:06:01,799
criminals who yeah, maybe some of them won't be reformed,

3016
03:06:01,799 --> 03:06:05,239
but at least you can like put the rest that

3017
03:06:05,399 --> 03:06:09,040
can be reformed to use for state purposes, for svital purposes,

3018
03:06:09,360 --> 03:06:13,200
because the way I see crime, it is ultimately a

3019
03:06:14,239 --> 03:06:17,920
societal issue. It's a sidal failure in many ways, not

3020
03:06:18,079 --> 03:06:20,680
just like a question of like an individual messing up,

3021
03:06:20,719 --> 03:06:25,600
because this individual's fuck ups is like a negative externality

3022
03:06:25,639 --> 03:06:28,600
for the rest of society. So the state does have

3023
03:06:28,879 --> 03:06:33,680
to take it upon itself defined ways, especially now, creative

3024
03:06:33,799 --> 03:06:36,760
ways to solve this issue. And I think there is

3025
03:06:36,879 --> 03:06:40,399
a lack of political imagination with a lot of people

3026
03:06:40,920 --> 03:06:44,440
across the political aisle because of the fact that their

3027
03:06:45,239 --> 03:06:49,680
ideologies are informed by very individualistic priors, and they don't

3028
03:06:49,760 --> 03:06:54,840
really they don't really like taking collective action because all

3029
03:06:54,920 --> 03:06:59,719
these measures that Elsaador is doing, even at the microcosmic level,

3030
03:07:00,079 --> 03:07:03,879
there are forms of like micro collectivism that eventually sad

3031
03:07:03,959 --> 03:07:07,600
bag into a cohesive national program and I think with

3032
03:07:07,719 --> 03:07:10,840
the case of all Salvador, it also shows that it's

3033
03:07:10,879 --> 03:07:13,959
something that we can emulate because as a max, as

3034
03:07:14,040 --> 03:07:19,239
the maximum goes, big things sometimes come in small packages,

3035
03:07:19,280 --> 03:07:22,680
and in El Salvador's case, it is a model to emulate.

3036
03:07:25,040 --> 03:07:29,239
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you know, and I guess we'll we'll wrap

3037
03:07:29,360 --> 03:07:32,360
this up because getting into a new topic I'll take

3038
03:07:32,440 --> 03:07:36,959
us into late into the night. But it all comes

3039
03:07:37,120 --> 03:07:40,639
back to, you know what, what what's been said a

3040
03:07:40,680 --> 03:07:44,360
couple of times here. You can just do things, and

3041
03:07:44,440 --> 03:07:48,079
people with power can just do things. I mean, book

3042
03:07:48,159 --> 03:07:53,559
Kelly showed that if you read any accounts of how

3043
03:07:53,639 --> 03:07:55,440
he had, what he had to do to get elected,

3044
03:07:56,159 --> 03:07:58,639
and then what he had to do after he got

3045
03:07:58,680 --> 03:08:01,319
elected just to be able able to clean the country up,

3046
03:08:02,920 --> 03:08:06,799
it's literally you can just do things because what he

3047
03:08:07,079 --> 03:08:11,920
did was well, I mean kind of against their constitution

3048
03:08:12,360 --> 03:08:14,399
or whatever. The kind of thing they have down there

3049
03:08:14,559 --> 03:08:21,920
is but desperate times, desperate measures, and I'm not so

3050
03:08:22,200 --> 03:08:25,600
much of And this isn't me saying, first of all,

3051
03:08:25,639 --> 03:08:27,360
I don't want people to think this is me saying

3052
03:08:27,760 --> 03:08:32,000
Trump needs to be unleashed. I don't think Trump's the answer.

3053
03:08:32,920 --> 03:08:36,799
I just don't I think he's the path somewhere, and

3054
03:08:37,479 --> 03:08:40,719
I think it's going to be more local if you

3055
03:08:40,840 --> 03:08:46,840
ask me personally what I think. But yeah, the time

3056
03:08:47,120 --> 03:08:51,639
for oh what does the law say? We really need

3057
03:08:51,719 --> 03:08:53,680
to dig into these law books and figure out if

3058
03:08:53,719 --> 03:08:56,200
this is legal, and maybe we need to run it

3059
03:08:56,280 --> 03:09:01,600
by the courts that my time was gone thirty years ago.

3060
03:09:03,440 --> 03:09:07,799
And the only person who is the only person or

3061
03:09:07,959 --> 03:09:13,959
persons who is going to be able to reverse and

3062
03:09:14,520 --> 03:09:18,479
nullify everything that's happened is someone like bou Kelly who's

3063
03:09:18,559 --> 03:09:21,760
just like, I don't care what the law says. I

3064
03:09:21,879 --> 03:09:25,159
don't care if this council, how long this council has

3065
03:09:25,200 --> 03:09:29,000
been in charge. I'm bringing these I'm bringing these soldiers

3066
03:09:29,040 --> 03:09:31,760
in here with me, and we're going to do what

3067
03:09:31,920 --> 03:09:36,479
we do, and we're going to turn this around because

3068
03:09:36,559 --> 03:09:38,799
people can look at El Salvador and be like, well,

3069
03:09:38,840 --> 03:09:42,000
they were the murder capital of the world. Now it's

3070
03:09:42,040 --> 03:09:46,920
safer than Baltimore. Yeah, and now I literally felt safer

3071
03:09:47,520 --> 03:09:51,559
walking around there. I wasn't looking behind me like I

3072
03:09:51,639 --> 03:09:55,239
would be if I was in Baltimore or New York,

3073
03:09:55,879 --> 03:10:01,440
even Austin, Texas. I wasn't looking behind me. I was like, Wow,

3074
03:10:03,799 --> 03:10:07,479
This is incredible. People are just going about their lives

3075
03:10:08,159 --> 03:10:11,680
and they're not worried about They're worried about one last

3076
03:10:11,719 --> 03:10:19,840
thing getting killed, getting roughed up, getting robbed. And if

3077
03:10:19,879 --> 03:10:23,559
we're going to clean up what's happening here and especially

3078
03:10:23,639 --> 03:10:29,600
get rid of the rot, fuck the law. Yeah, I

3079
03:10:30,520 --> 03:10:34,680
give up something else for Lain. It wasn't cursing fuck

3080
03:10:34,760 --> 03:10:39,520
the law. I mean literally fuck the law. I don't care,

3081
03:10:40,440 --> 03:10:42,760
you know, and I know people can you know, we

3082
03:10:43,760 --> 03:10:46,159
could go on a totally different tangent about you know,

3083
03:10:46,840 --> 03:10:50,120
Trump is you know, you know, it's just another fake

3084
03:10:50,239 --> 03:10:53,639
gay jewop and everything like that. This isn't about him,

3085
03:10:54,239 --> 03:10:57,520
This is about us, and it's not going I'm sorry,

3086
03:10:58,079 --> 03:11:01,120
unless we get someone like Boukelly, it's not going to

3087
03:11:01,159 --> 03:11:03,559
be changed on the national level. And I don't even

3088
03:11:03,680 --> 03:11:06,079
know that it can be changed on the national level

3089
03:11:06,440 --> 03:11:11,520
with as big as we are and as multicultural as

3090
03:11:11,600 --> 03:11:15,520
we are and multi racial as we are, when you

3091
03:11:15,600 --> 03:11:17,760
have three hundred and fifty closing and I'm probably on

3092
03:11:17,840 --> 03:11:20,920
four hundred million people now, so it's got to be

3093
03:11:21,079 --> 03:11:24,639
something else, and it's not going to look like what

3094
03:11:24,799 --> 03:11:30,399
you're you know what the typical boomer con wants. I'm sorry,

3095
03:11:31,399 --> 03:11:36,440
it's going to be something else, and ebody can well,

3096
03:11:36,559 --> 03:11:39,079
I'd love to for just a second. So the average

3097
03:11:39,079 --> 03:11:42,799
boomor con is still caring about liberty and liberty within what.

3098
03:11:43,920 --> 03:11:47,639
And there's been an interesting discussion I don't want to

3099
03:11:47,680 --> 03:11:50,319
take either side of between Joel Davis and Keith Woods

3100
03:11:50,360 --> 03:11:55,719
about a certain mustache man and the necessity of either

3101
03:11:55,799 --> 03:11:59,200
embracing or rejecting that mustache man. But I just I

3102
03:11:59,239 --> 03:12:01,079
do want to bring something that I've talked about before,

3103
03:12:01,159 --> 03:12:04,200
and that is that Nabu Kelly is being called, you know,

3104
03:12:05,079 --> 03:12:07,680
a national socialist except on the pejority of term, and

3105
03:12:07,719 --> 03:12:10,040
he's being called a dictator, and he's being called a fascist,

3106
03:12:11,159 --> 03:12:13,840
and in a very real sense, you know what Thomas

3107
03:12:13,840 --> 03:12:16,760
says is true. Right after nineteen forty five, it became

3108
03:12:16,799 --> 03:12:20,280
illegal to be effective, or became legal to be right wing,

3109
03:12:21,559 --> 03:12:24,920
and any kind of effective governance at all, whether it's

3110
03:12:25,000 --> 03:12:29,680
just like not paying people who shouldn't be paid, or

3111
03:12:29,719 --> 03:12:35,239
throwing criminals in jail or enforcing the border or anything,

3112
03:12:37,280 --> 03:12:41,520
is going to be called fascism. And you just have

3113
03:12:41,719 --> 03:12:44,000
to step over that and say, yeah, and so what,

3114
03:12:48,200 --> 03:12:53,479
because there's there's no society today anywhere in the world,

3115
03:12:55,840 --> 03:13:02,319
especially white countries where ethnic incoherence and massive structural economic

3116
03:13:02,399 --> 03:13:09,520
problems and crime isn't a problem or or incipiately a problem,

3117
03:13:09,639 --> 03:13:11,200
like you can say, well, Poland is say if they

3118
03:13:11,200 --> 03:13:16,719
don't have crime? Like yeah, but how hard How quickly

3119
03:13:16,799 --> 03:13:18,959
could a bunch of Muslims come from Germany into Poland

3120
03:13:19,399 --> 03:13:23,000
and just start wrecking stuff like pretty easily. There's nowhere

3121
03:13:23,520 --> 03:13:26,319
in the world where you can just be isolated from

3122
03:13:26,360 --> 03:13:31,280
major problems. You can't run away from it anymore. You know,

3123
03:13:32,319 --> 03:13:37,239
jet planes can and people the parasites will go from

3124
03:13:37,319 --> 03:13:41,239
a non functioning place to a functional place and just

3125
03:13:41,479 --> 03:13:44,399
show up anytime. You see it.

3126
03:13:44,799 --> 03:13:47,680
Speaker 3: You see it with all the people coming to Germany,

3127
03:13:47,719 --> 03:13:49,799
all the people coming to different countries in Europe.

3128
03:13:51,120 --> 03:13:52,120
Speaker 1: You see it with.

3129
03:13:53,879 --> 03:13:57,639
Speaker 3: You people leaving leaving California, right like, there are people

3130
03:13:59,120 --> 03:14:02,760
who just want to live someplace nice, and it doesn't

3131
03:14:02,799 --> 03:14:05,000
matter to them what their choices are that that might

3132
03:14:05,040 --> 03:14:07,559
have gotten them in the place that it is. That way,

3133
03:14:08,760 --> 03:14:12,120
they just want to live someplace nice. You see it

3134
03:14:12,120 --> 03:14:15,840
all over Montana, you see it all over Idaho, you

3135
03:14:15,920 --> 03:14:19,600
see it all over Washington, you see it all over Tennessee,

3136
03:14:20,639 --> 03:14:25,040
people coming down from Michigan, people coming down from other

3137
03:14:25,120 --> 03:14:32,040
states in the northeast. So instead of arguing about how

3138
03:14:32,120 --> 03:14:34,840
you're not really a fascist because you disagree with you

3139
03:14:34,920 --> 03:14:38,079
know this, this point seven of Mussolini's doctor you know

3140
03:14:39,680 --> 03:14:43,159
points or whatever, right, we can have that discussion amongst

3141
03:14:43,159 --> 03:14:48,159
ourselves about Mosley and Franco and Mussolini and mustache Man

3142
03:14:49,559 --> 03:14:50,319
Salazar whatever.

3143
03:14:50,559 --> 03:14:50,600
Speaker 6: Like.

3144
03:14:51,360 --> 03:14:53,559
Speaker 3: That's a discussion for serious people to have at a

3145
03:14:53,639 --> 03:14:57,559
later date, to like thrash out whatever differences we men

3146
03:14:57,639 --> 03:15:00,559
have between various different flavors of right wing authority regimes.

3147
03:15:03,520 --> 03:15:09,840
It doesn't matter right now, this very second what the

3148
03:15:09,920 --> 03:15:12,719
people who are against Buchuela or who are trying to

3149
03:15:12,799 --> 03:15:17,079
stop whatever measures Donald Trump is trying to do. You

3150
03:15:17,319 --> 03:15:22,200
just have to step over those people because they want

3151
03:15:22,280 --> 03:15:25,000
the system not to work. They want your children to

3152
03:15:25,079 --> 03:15:28,079
be broke. They want them to grow in a non

3153
03:15:28,120 --> 03:15:32,600
functioning society with no public schools. They want them to

3154
03:15:32,879 --> 03:15:35,600
not have parks and not have safe places to be.

3155
03:15:35,719 --> 03:15:37,760
They want your wife sexually harassed and or wait in

3156
03:15:37,799 --> 03:15:42,520
and out of the grocery store. They want you to

3157
03:15:42,600 --> 03:15:48,719
have to pack heat everywhere you go just so you

3158
03:15:48,760 --> 03:15:56,040
can get in and out of your truck, and Okay,

3159
03:15:56,079 --> 03:15:57,319
if that's the way we have to play, I guess

3160
03:15:57,319 --> 03:16:00,559
I'll do it. But I don't want I don't mind

3161
03:16:00,600 --> 03:16:05,159
playing those by those rules, but there are people who

3162
03:16:05,360 --> 03:16:07,040
aren't cut out for it, and they shouldn't have to.

3163
03:16:08,319 --> 03:16:12,239
Speaker 1: You want to say anything to close out, Charles, I

3164
03:16:12,319 --> 03:16:13,959
think we're at that stage.

3165
03:16:15,559 --> 03:16:17,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, just a couple of minor points, thank you,

3166
03:16:17,799 --> 03:16:20,479
Pete one. I want to just touch back on something

3167
03:16:20,559 --> 03:16:24,479
jose had said a while back in the broadcast, when

3168
03:16:24,520 --> 03:16:28,520
he had said earlier about how keep posting the blog,

3169
03:16:28,600 --> 03:16:31,479
post or whatever, keep putting new ideas out there. I

3170
03:16:31,559 --> 03:16:36,040
want to dovetail that with D's point about our side

3171
03:16:36,120 --> 03:16:39,399
is the only side that has anything good, and has

3172
03:16:39,479 --> 03:16:43,159
had anything good for quite a while. I won't say forever,

3173
03:16:43,360 --> 03:16:45,639
because I do think the left had some good ideas

3174
03:16:45,680 --> 03:16:47,959
somewhere in the past, but for now and for the

3175
03:16:48,079 --> 03:16:51,959
for the recent past, it hasn't had anything for quite

3176
03:16:52,000 --> 03:16:55,399
some time. So always put your ideas out there. You

3177
03:16:55,559 --> 03:16:58,479
never know who's going to pick them up and how

3178
03:16:58,559 --> 03:17:01,040
far they're going to run with them. And although he

3179
03:17:01,159 --> 03:17:05,000
was not a political figure, the author HP Lovecraft died

3180
03:17:05,280 --> 03:17:09,799
so poor as to be reusing raise safety raisors to shave.

3181
03:17:11,360 --> 03:17:13,840
He died with a few sticks of furniture and nothing

3182
03:17:13,920 --> 03:17:17,440
to show for all of his efforts. If, however, he

3183
03:17:17,680 --> 03:17:20,639
was still alive today and had the copyrights to all

3184
03:17:20,680 --> 03:17:24,120
of his work, he'd be a billionaire. But you never

3185
03:17:24,319 --> 03:17:26,600
know what's going what you're going to put out there

3186
03:17:26,680 --> 03:17:28,840
in the world, and you never know how long it's

3187
03:17:28,879 --> 03:17:30,920
going to take other people to catch on to it,

3188
03:17:31,680 --> 03:17:33,959
and you never know how far it's going to be

3189
03:17:34,159 --> 03:17:37,479
taken or how many people are going to grab hold

3190
03:17:37,559 --> 03:17:40,079
of it and love it and cherish it and value it.

3191
03:17:40,680 --> 03:17:46,079
So never ever stop doing something. And lastly, I'll close

3192
03:17:46,159 --> 03:17:51,200
with this, there was somebody that said to you, Pete

3193
03:17:51,239 --> 03:17:55,280
in a comment on Twitter, Oh, I didn't realize Charles

3194
03:17:55,360 --> 03:17:58,079
had said everything all the time. First always it was

3195
03:17:58,159 --> 03:18:00,680
kind of snarky, but I left off and I got

3196
03:18:00,799 --> 03:18:03,200
to say, like the reason I laughed, and I kind

3197
03:18:03,239 --> 03:18:05,479
of appreciate it, And in a way I actually took

3198
03:18:05,479 --> 03:18:08,600
it as a backhanded compliment because I've been doing stuff

3199
03:18:08,680 --> 03:18:12,079
like this for thirty thirty five years. I'm in person

3200
03:18:12,159 --> 03:18:16,120
at college all sorts of things. I've tried everything from

3201
03:18:16,479 --> 03:18:21,440
screenwriting to guitar playing to stand up comedy. I've done

3202
03:18:21,479 --> 03:18:23,680
a lot of stuff. So all this is to say

3203
03:18:23,760 --> 03:18:26,559
not talk myself up, but it's just to say this, guys,

3204
03:18:26,879 --> 03:18:30,079
you can just do things. And the reason that phrase

3205
03:18:30,200 --> 03:18:35,159
maddens me is you always could. You always could. If

3206
03:18:35,200 --> 03:18:38,959
you want to do something, go do it. Ask now

3207
03:18:39,120 --> 03:18:42,000
not calling you to break the law to hurt people.

3208
03:18:42,319 --> 03:18:44,520
But what I am calling you to do is someone

3209
03:18:44,600 --> 03:18:46,000
that masculine bravery.

3210
03:18:46,680 --> 03:18:47,399
Speaker 1: Just do it.

3211
03:18:48,040 --> 03:18:50,760
Speaker 2: And you know what, somebody wants you to stop, make

3212
03:18:50,879 --> 03:18:54,079
them tell you. And I'll close with this last moment,

3213
03:18:54,280 --> 03:18:58,680
this last point. One factor has guided my life and

3214
03:18:58,799 --> 03:19:01,559
I have never regretted that if only one thing. I've

3215
03:19:01,920 --> 03:19:06,159
never regretted. Living by this, it is better to beg

3216
03:19:06,600 --> 03:19:13,120
forgiveness than to ask permission. God bless everybody, and Pete

3217
03:19:13,159 --> 03:19:14,920
once again thank you for having me on your program.

3218
03:19:16,639 --> 03:19:20,959
Speaker 1: Of course, Hose, I want to close out saying anything

3219
03:19:21,399 --> 03:19:22,799
and do plugs whatever.

3220
03:19:24,479 --> 03:19:29,840
Speaker 6: Yes, one thing I've stressed that we are in we

3221
03:19:29,959 --> 03:19:32,760
need to go and reconquista mode in the sense that

3222
03:19:33,959 --> 03:19:37,280
perhaps a good deal the changes that we envisioned for

3223
03:19:37,399 --> 03:19:39,879
society are not going to happen in our lifetime or

3224
03:19:39,959 --> 03:19:44,559
in honestly many lifetimes, possibly centuries from now, but it's

3225
03:19:44,600 --> 03:19:48,440
still worth fighting because I want to be on my

3226
03:19:48,719 --> 03:19:52,079
deathbed knowing that I put in one hundred percent of

3227
03:19:52,200 --> 03:19:56,520
my effort towards making the polity I live in a

3228
03:19:56,639 --> 03:20:02,040
better place, and knowing that my the knowledge I accumulated

3229
03:20:02,079 --> 03:20:06,760
and the experiences I've accumulated as well, I've been passed

3230
03:20:06,799 --> 03:20:10,000
on the future generations to continue that same fight, and

3231
03:20:10,079 --> 03:20:12,760
I think people need to have that but in mind,

3232
03:20:12,799 --> 03:20:16,440
because our society has programmed us to go for instant

3233
03:20:16,479 --> 03:20:20,920
gratification and instant results, and oftentimes that is a sirens

3234
03:20:21,040 --> 03:20:25,319
song for all sorts of other problems. But yeah, if

3235
03:20:25,360 --> 03:20:29,479
you want to continue follow my content, I'm on substack

3236
03:20:29,559 --> 03:20:34,600
Jose Nino Unfiltered at josbcf dot subsat dot com, and

3237
03:20:34,680 --> 03:20:38,440
then I'm also on x slash Twitter at Jose al Ninho.

3238
03:20:39,680 --> 03:20:41,719
Speaker 3: Do do your plugs and if you want to, if

3239
03:20:41,760 --> 03:20:43,760
you had a last comment or something like that, I'm

3240
03:20:44,200 --> 03:20:50,440
not fundamental principle on substack and Telegram. I just want

3241
03:20:50,479 --> 03:20:52,440
to say thanks to you, Pete for having me on

3242
03:20:54,040 --> 03:20:57,200
Folks by Charles Books. Jose was kind enough to have

3243
03:20:57,319 --> 03:21:00,639
me on his show a couple of weeks back, you know,

3244
03:21:01,120 --> 03:21:04,200
go to premanly be on the wall, slash support if

3245
03:21:04,200 --> 03:21:06,920
you're kind of if you feel compelled, you can done

3246
03:21:06,959 --> 03:21:08,639
it to me on Gum Road and a few other places.

3247
03:21:09,559 --> 03:21:11,440
But you know, support the people that are doing this

3248
03:21:11,559 --> 03:21:17,000
full time, like Jose, like Pete, because you're not gonna

3249
03:21:17,040 --> 03:21:20,799
hear a conversation like this anywhere else. And I truly

3250
03:21:20,840 --> 03:21:26,159
believe as small as this is, these these efforts are

3251
03:21:26,239 --> 03:21:29,040
building an avalanche all over the world, and it's an

3252
03:21:29,040 --> 03:21:30,319
honor to be part of it. And so thank you

3253
03:21:30,360 --> 03:21:34,159
for having me Bete, of course, and thank all of you.

3254
03:21:34,319 --> 03:21:37,680
Thank all of you for taking time to come and

3255
03:21:38,200 --> 03:21:44,319
talk to me basically about my vacation, which which I

3256
03:21:44,399 --> 03:21:48,040
think before I even before I even went on it,

3257
03:21:48,239 --> 03:21:51,239
I think we we said we would postpone any kind

3258
03:21:51,280 --> 03:21:54,520
of episode until after because we knew that it would

3259
03:21:54,600 --> 03:21:58,040
be the kind of conversation like we just had, and

3260
03:21:58,120 --> 03:21:59,159
I'm glad we did so.

3261
03:22:00,120 --> 03:22:02,920
Speaker 1: Thank you and till the next time. Thank you, gentlemen,

3262
03:22:04,440 --> 03:22:05,120
And we're back.

3263
03:22:06,200 --> 03:22:06,319
Speaker 6: Dee.

3264
03:22:06,479 --> 03:22:10,079
Speaker 1: How are you doing doing great? Pete? Thanks for having me.

3265
03:22:11,520 --> 03:22:15,959
It seems like we just talked the other day. Jose, Harry,

3266
03:22:17,799 --> 03:22:21,959
I'm doing well. Charles very well.

3267
03:22:22,000 --> 03:22:22,959
Speaker 2: Thank you, Pete very well.

3268
03:22:24,159 --> 03:22:26,520
Speaker 1: So, I mean, I really don't know where to jump

3269
03:22:26,600 --> 03:22:30,600
in here because there's so much going on. But does

3270
03:22:30,799 --> 03:22:34,399
anybody do I want to get a discussion going as

3271
03:22:34,479 --> 03:22:38,719
to what we think is happening. I think Jose may

3272
03:22:38,799 --> 03:22:44,000
call it, call it k fabe just knowing Jose where

3273
03:22:44,079 --> 03:22:50,200
it looks like Israel is net Yaho is on the

3274
03:22:50,319 --> 03:22:59,000
outs with Trump. Anybody, Jose, why don't you feel that one?

3275
03:22:59,520 --> 03:23:02,559
Speaker 3: Well, I hope and pray it's true. I mean, I

3276
03:23:02,600 --> 03:23:07,600
hope and pray it's true, but I would be no

3277
03:23:07,680 --> 03:23:08,000
more than me.

3278
03:23:08,200 --> 03:23:18,879
Speaker 6: So so my impression is that, like I just think

3279
03:23:19,159 --> 03:23:26,680
that the US is so overstretched now that yeah, there's

3280
03:23:26,719 --> 03:23:29,239
like an element of kfe where I don't think there's

3281
03:23:29,319 --> 03:23:32,639
been like a rupture in relations because I think the

3282
03:23:33,159 --> 03:23:37,760
US is real relationship. It goes beyond like the feelings

3283
03:23:38,040 --> 03:23:42,239
of like the US President and like the Israeli Prime Minister.

3284
03:23:42,360 --> 03:23:48,280
It's very like structurally like built in and whatever beef

3285
03:23:48,479 --> 03:23:51,799
like Joe Biden has with Benjamin Yahoo and then Donald

3286
03:23:51,879 --> 03:23:55,559
Trump has it ultimately just turns out to be theater

3287
03:23:55,760 --> 03:23:56,520
in the long term.

3288
03:23:56,719 --> 03:23:58,159
Speaker 1: I just think that now.

3289
03:23:59,760 --> 03:24:03,079
Speaker 6: They with the whole hoothy conflict like the US just

3290
03:24:03,360 --> 03:24:07,799
took like a big fat l with them with a

3291
03:24:07,840 --> 03:24:11,799
bunch of just ragtag militia people, like shutting down the

3292
03:24:11,879 --> 03:24:16,680
Red Sea and launching pretty sophisticated missiles against Israel.

3293
03:24:16,959 --> 03:24:17,959
Speaker 1: Seems that they're going.

3294
03:24:17,799 --> 03:24:22,200
Speaker 6: Through like a recalibrated approach where I think they're trying

3295
03:24:22,280 --> 03:24:25,280
to go on a charm offensive, like the US is

3296
03:24:25,280 --> 03:24:29,280
trying to go on a charm offensive with these Arab states,

3297
03:24:29,319 --> 03:24:32,280
like these sellout Arab states from like the UAE, the

3298
03:24:32,399 --> 03:24:35,120
saudiast and try to mend these ties and then try

3299
03:24:35,159 --> 03:24:38,760
to reset like some type of conflict with Ron like

3300
03:24:39,000 --> 03:24:42,639
six months or a year down the line, because I

3301
03:24:42,920 --> 03:24:47,280
just don't really think that there's much appetite amongst the

3302
03:24:47,319 --> 03:24:50,600
American public to just fight like a war with Israel.

3303
03:24:51,319 --> 03:24:54,440
And that's why they're gonna try to get creative by

3304
03:24:55,079 --> 03:24:58,000
not just trying to build this whole Abraham Accords, which

3305
03:24:58,079 --> 03:25:03,280
is basically a balancing coalition of like the Uncle Tom

3306
03:25:03,520 --> 03:25:07,360
Arab states that will basically serve as Kennon fodder for

3307
03:25:07,600 --> 03:25:10,280
Israel along with the US as well.

3308
03:25:10,920 --> 03:25:13,319
Speaker 1: But also I think too with.

3309
03:25:15,200 --> 03:25:19,120
Speaker 6: That with cough character that jew that they're sending all

3310
03:25:19,200 --> 03:25:22,399
over to like Russia and Iran. I think they're trying

3311
03:25:22,600 --> 03:25:27,959
to get him to get Russia to abandon Iran as well,

3312
03:25:28,040 --> 03:25:31,159
to abandon that type of strategic partnership. And I think

3313
03:25:31,200 --> 03:25:34,120
that's not that's what's not really being discussed. But when

3314
03:25:34,159 --> 03:25:37,040
it comes to this type of stuff dealing with organized jewry,

3315
03:25:37,479 --> 03:25:39,719
you often have to like read between the lines, because

3316
03:25:39,719 --> 03:25:42,559
I think that that's been part of a plan where

3317
03:25:43,479 --> 03:25:49,879
the Trump strategy is to tap into the sellout Arab

3318
03:25:50,120 --> 03:25:54,879
access and also woo the Russians over by making some

3319
03:25:55,000 --> 03:25:58,479
concessions in Ukraine to get them to isolate Iran. And

3320
03:25:58,520 --> 03:26:03,559
I also think they're doing this too with India, which

3321
03:26:03,600 --> 03:26:07,719
has been a pretty strong partner of Iran. They're really

3322
03:26:07,799 --> 03:26:10,440
making overtures there with especially with the likes of like

3323
03:26:10,520 --> 03:26:14,360
JD Vance, And yeah, there is definitely cafe, but it's

3324
03:26:14,399 --> 03:26:16,879
also just like the reality of the fact that like

3325
03:26:17,200 --> 03:26:22,719
the Judeo American Empire has like reached like a breaking point,

3326
03:26:22,760 --> 03:26:25,319
both in terms of its foreign policy ventures and just

3327
03:26:25,399 --> 03:26:28,959
the fact that like the country domestically is just increasingly

3328
03:26:29,079 --> 03:26:32,639
becoming a mess and can it's barely keeping the lights on,

3329
03:26:32,799 --> 03:26:37,920
let alone being able to project power against Roan Russia

3330
03:26:38,079 --> 03:26:40,760
and like China, it's just a disaster on all fronts.

3331
03:26:41,600 --> 03:26:45,120
Speaker 1: Well, I'll just make a quick comment and somebody else

3332
03:26:45,159 --> 03:26:48,520
can jump in. I recorded with Stormy yesterday. That episode

3333
03:26:48,559 --> 03:26:49,920
is coming out tomorrow, and this is one of the

3334
03:26:50,000 --> 03:26:53,360
things we talked about, and I made the point Trump

3335
03:26:53,440 --> 03:26:58,120
could become virulently anti Israel, but there's gonna be another election.

3336
03:27:01,319 --> 03:27:03,520
There's gonna be another somebody else is gonna be president

3337
03:27:03,559 --> 03:27:06,799
one day, somebody else is going to be somebody else

3338
03:27:06,920 --> 03:27:12,000
is going to be sitting in the the Secretary of

3339
03:27:12,079 --> 03:27:16,559
State chair. And if the deep state, you know, if

3340
03:27:16,639 --> 03:27:21,959
these administrative types aren't cleaned out, well what does it matter?

3341
03:27:22,600 --> 03:27:26,319
Well what it's just a pause basically. So I mean

3342
03:27:27,719 --> 03:27:30,600
really like, I think you started off by saying that

3343
03:27:30,719 --> 03:27:34,159
it's so deeply entrenched that it's really not going to

3344
03:27:34,239 --> 03:27:36,000
go away, And yeah, how can I go away if

3345
03:27:36,000 --> 03:27:37,479
we're gonna have elections in the future.

3346
03:27:38,440 --> 03:27:42,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's actually a really good point, because they could

3347
03:27:42,639 --> 03:27:46,319
get they Israelis could just like wait it out, and honestly,

3348
03:27:46,479 --> 03:27:49,159
they could get really petty. I mean, people can't forget

3349
03:27:49,239 --> 03:27:51,680
this that hw Bush in.

3350
03:27:52,239 --> 03:27:54,040
Speaker 1: Some respects.

3351
03:27:55,239 --> 03:27:59,520
Speaker 6: Got could buy organized jewelry for the mere fact of

3352
03:27:59,639 --> 03:28:04,799
just theying alone to Israel over some West Bank settlement stuff.

3353
03:28:04,920 --> 03:28:08,479
And he also, funny enough, when he knocked out Nordiega.

3354
03:28:11,360 --> 03:28:15,559
I think nordega Uh one of his close confidants was

3355
03:28:16,079 --> 03:28:20,399
Masad Asset, my career re And I mean, just like

3356
03:28:20,479 --> 03:28:25,079
the slightest like kind of like offense is enough to

3357
03:28:25,559 --> 03:28:28,559
piss off this Israelis because there's just such a petty

3358
03:28:28,799 --> 03:28:33,120
people that if they don't get like enough military aid

3359
03:28:33,319 --> 03:28:36,799
or enough of like their demands met, like, they treat

3360
03:28:36,840 --> 03:28:39,479
it as like a betrayal. So anything is possible. But

3361
03:28:40,760 --> 03:28:46,040
at this point, yeah, that there, it seems to me

3362
03:28:46,879 --> 03:28:52,360
that the US like there is like a rational calculus

3363
03:28:52,440 --> 03:28:55,680
being made that they just can't pursue this stuff at

3364
03:28:55,719 --> 03:28:58,719
the moment. But who knows what could happen and what

3365
03:28:58,920 --> 03:29:03,719
type of people insert a year from now, especially with

3366
03:29:03,879 --> 03:29:06,680
a lot of reshuffling of the national security state. But yeah,

3367
03:29:06,840 --> 03:29:09,280
they could also just wait it out because that whole

3368
03:29:10,840 --> 03:29:13,959
there's a big continuity of agenda when it comes to

3369
03:29:14,040 --> 03:29:18,000
the think tank industrial complex and the permanent bureaucracy. And

3370
03:29:18,079 --> 03:29:19,799
at the end of the day, when you have like

3371
03:29:20,000 --> 03:29:25,200
a really like post democratic state, like the US elections

3372
03:29:25,239 --> 03:29:29,000
almost don't matter. And it's basically the people that write

3373
03:29:29,040 --> 03:29:32,319
the policy papers and the people who are part of

3374
03:29:32,399 --> 03:29:35,319
like the permanent bureaucracy that determine public policy.

3375
03:29:35,959 --> 03:29:37,879
Speaker 3: So to give you an example of why the election,

3376
03:29:38,159 --> 03:29:44,399
I mean White Trump, Tom Tillis just torpedo Trump's US

3377
03:29:44,399 --> 03:29:48,399
attorney picked for DC. So the most important arguably maybe

3378
03:29:48,799 --> 03:29:50,920
either the most important to the second most important after

3379
03:29:51,280 --> 03:29:55,840
Southern District of New York, right, And like Tom Tillis

3380
03:29:55,959 --> 03:29:58,079
and Li Instagram are going to be an in Senate

3381
03:29:58,159 --> 03:30:02,440
until they die or they quit or they volunteer to quit.

3382
03:30:02,520 --> 03:30:11,680
They're not going anywhere, and they're just not gonna I mean,

3383
03:30:11,719 --> 03:30:14,879
they're not going to be on the side of Donald

3384
03:30:14,879 --> 03:30:22,440
Trump because they're military industrial complex guies, they're rabbit zionists, whatever,

3385
03:30:22,760 --> 03:30:26,479
pick your thing. But a huge, huge chunk of the

3386
03:30:27,000 --> 03:30:29,200
GOP Senate are traders.

3387
03:30:31,079 --> 03:30:36,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that we're what we're seeing now is

3388
03:30:39,520 --> 03:30:43,399
we have the only reason that anything like this would

3389
03:30:43,479 --> 03:30:50,280
happen is a realization that one the bad things that

3390
03:30:51,559 --> 03:30:55,159
jose had mentioned about everything happening at home and needed

3391
03:30:55,239 --> 03:30:58,520
to concentrate on everything that's happening here. And two, I

3392
03:30:58,600 --> 03:31:02,399
mean there's obvious have pivots to China going on. And

3393
03:31:02,479 --> 03:31:04,040
if you're going to have a pivot to China, you

3394
03:31:04,159 --> 03:31:06,520
have that's going to take all of your resources, that's

3395
03:31:06,559 --> 03:31:08,440
going to take all of your intelligence, that's going to

3396
03:31:08,479 --> 03:31:11,840
take you need to have everything ready at a moment's notice.

3397
03:31:12,200 --> 03:31:16,000
I mean, if if the Houthis are if Trump's willing

3398
03:31:16,079 --> 03:31:19,719
to do deal with the Houthies and with Saudi Arabia

3399
03:31:19,879 --> 03:31:24,879
without Israel being in charge, I mean to me, it

3400
03:31:25,000 --> 03:31:28,520
could be a big middle finger to net Yahoo because

3401
03:31:28,760 --> 03:31:31,760
I'm sorry, I don't believe that Trump and net Yahoo

3402
03:31:31,760 --> 03:31:34,440
are friends. I don't care how many chairs he pulls

3403
03:31:34,479 --> 03:31:38,200
out for him. I think that they both do not

3404
03:31:38,440 --> 03:31:41,440
like each other at all. And I think that's just

3405
03:31:41,559 --> 03:31:43,639
about the best thing you can hope. That doesn't mean

3406
03:31:43,719 --> 03:31:47,120
that Trump doesn't like Israel. I think we know he does.

3407
03:31:48,000 --> 03:31:50,399
And people say, oh, well, that means because best because

3408
03:31:50,399 --> 03:31:52,159
he's one of the biggest Zionists in the world. Look,

3409
03:31:52,200 --> 03:31:54,639
he married his daughters off to or he's just a

3410
03:31:54,680 --> 03:32:00,879
boomer and that's what boomers do. And also he's worked

3411
03:32:00,920 --> 03:32:04,520
in New York real estate long enough to know that, Wow,

3412
03:32:04,600 --> 03:32:06,479
there's this group of people in the world that are

3413
03:32:06,600 --> 03:32:08,680
really really powerful, and if I want to get some

3414
03:32:08,799 --> 03:32:11,159
shit done in some places, I may have to be

3415
03:32:11,360 --> 03:32:15,280
nice to them. Yeah. Is that good for us? Is

3416
03:32:15,319 --> 03:32:16,200
it good for the country?

3417
03:32:16,760 --> 03:32:16,799
Speaker 6: No?

3418
03:32:17,840 --> 03:32:21,399
Speaker 1: But I mean I guess from a real politic standpoint,

3419
03:32:21,959 --> 03:32:25,479
it's kind of hard to ignore. Right now. I just

3420
03:32:25,600 --> 03:32:28,920
think of my friend Tommy Simon saying, you know, if

3421
03:32:28,959 --> 03:32:30,719
you're going to clean if this country is ever going

3422
03:32:30,799 --> 03:32:34,799
to get cleaned up, you know, it's just a group

3423
03:32:34,840 --> 03:32:36,879
of people over here. They're going to be the final

3424
03:32:36,920 --> 03:32:38,120
boss that we're gonna have to deal with.

3425
03:32:40,079 --> 03:32:42,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that's spot on. I think that's spot on.

3426
03:32:43,799 --> 03:32:46,440
I think you put it very reloquently as far as

3427
03:32:46,520 --> 03:32:48,319
I don't care how many chairs he pulls out. I mean,

3428
03:32:48,360 --> 03:32:50,399
he has to live in the world he's in. And

3429
03:32:50,520 --> 03:32:53,639
I think a lot of guys forget that. That's that's truism.

3430
03:32:53,719 --> 03:32:56,000
You have to live in the world you're in. And

3431
03:32:56,079 --> 03:32:58,760
these are people, as you said, that he's encountered throughout

3432
03:32:58,840 --> 03:33:03,239
the last what forty to fifty, possibly sixty years of

3433
03:33:03,319 --> 03:33:06,639
his life, that he's just done business with at all

3434
03:33:06,799 --> 03:33:11,440
levels for the greater part of his life. And it's

3435
03:33:11,520 --> 03:33:14,520
not really any wonder that his family is married into them.

3436
03:33:14,760 --> 03:33:17,159
Why wouldn't they They're the people he encounters all the time.

3437
03:33:17,760 --> 03:33:19,959
They're the people he gulfs with, they're the people he

3438
03:33:20,040 --> 03:33:23,719
eats with. They're the people he negotiates with. That doesn't

3439
03:33:23,760 --> 03:33:27,399
necessarily make them friends, but he obviously sees their value,

3440
03:33:28,079 --> 03:33:31,200
rightly or wrongly. I mean, I'm not in those situations.

3441
03:33:31,280 --> 03:33:34,000
I don't travel those circles. But I think as you

3442
03:33:34,159 --> 03:33:37,319
put it, and I think you're correct in that this

3443
03:33:37,559 --> 03:33:39,840
is the world he lives in and he is. I

3444
03:33:39,879 --> 03:33:42,360
think this is also something that's easy to forget because

3445
03:33:42,399 --> 03:33:45,319
he is a very intelligent man. He is very he

3446
03:33:45,479 --> 03:33:49,040
is very he's bombastic, but he's no fool, he's not stupid,

3447
03:33:49,600 --> 03:33:52,040
and he also is very charismatic, and he also has

3448
03:33:52,040 --> 03:33:54,600
away with people. But I think it's easy to forget

3449
03:33:54,680 --> 03:33:58,520
that he, like all of us, are not exempt our zeitgeist,

3450
03:33:58,600 --> 03:34:01,479
as I am fond of saying, no man is exempted zeitgeist.

3451
03:34:01,520 --> 03:34:03,920
He's still going to be a boomer. He's still going

3452
03:34:04,000 --> 03:34:06,959
to do boomer things, and we have to understand that

3453
03:34:07,120 --> 03:34:09,840
and accept it so that when we see certain things,

3454
03:34:09,920 --> 03:34:11,760
we just have to take the wins where we get

3455
03:34:11,799 --> 03:34:14,120
them and I'm not saying we should beg for table

3456
03:34:14,200 --> 03:34:18,639
scraps all the time. Either let's not take one extreme

3457
03:34:18,760 --> 03:34:22,559
or the other. I'm merely trying to contextualize things in

3458
03:34:22,719 --> 03:34:25,520
that he's doing what he can. And I do want

3459
03:34:25,559 --> 03:34:28,159
to step back to something jose had said. I really

3460
03:34:28,280 --> 03:34:30,600
like two words that you chose, Jose. I thought they

3461
03:34:30,639 --> 03:34:35,600
were excellent choices, recalibration and the charm offensive. I thought

3462
03:34:35,639 --> 03:34:38,079
they were very good. I think they're really well done

3463
03:34:38,079 --> 03:34:39,799
because I think a lot of what he's trying to

3464
03:34:39,920 --> 03:34:44,520
do is, whether overtly or covertly, is circle the wagons.

3465
03:34:44,920 --> 03:34:49,719
We have to understand that he inherited a tremendous mess,

3466
03:34:49,920 --> 03:34:53,319
I mean at catastrophic levels. Look how bad it is

3467
03:34:53,920 --> 03:34:57,920
that we can see it. Imagine how bad it really is.

3468
03:34:58,639 --> 03:35:01,079
I mean, all everybody here is intelligent. I mean, if

3469
03:35:01,159 --> 03:35:04,159
we can see the rot, what on earth do you

3470
03:35:04,280 --> 03:35:07,200
think they're managing to hide from us? So I think

3471
03:35:07,239 --> 03:35:08,559
a lot of this is him.

3472
03:35:08,559 --> 03:35:10,920
Speaker 1: Just trying to he just lost a battle for the.

3473
03:35:13,479 --> 03:35:15,799
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Charles, I was just saying, I was just

3474
03:35:15,879 --> 03:35:18,319
trying to say that I think the charm offensive is

3475
03:35:18,959 --> 03:35:22,360
as as Jose a pope was very very well stated

3476
03:35:22,719 --> 03:35:26,239
and I think the recalibration is also very important. And

3477
03:35:26,280 --> 03:35:29,200
I think Pete's point is this is real politique. This

3478
03:35:29,360 --> 03:35:31,799
is what has to happen because he has he is

3479
03:35:31,840 --> 03:35:35,159
an inherit. He has inherited and absolute if you'll forgive

3480
03:35:35,200 --> 03:35:38,159
the phrase, because it's tired and worn, but it is

3481
03:35:38,280 --> 03:35:42,479
apt at this point. He has inherited an absolute dumpster fire.

3482
03:35:43,120 --> 03:35:45,600
What's he supposed to do with it? I mean, he

3483
03:35:45,680 --> 03:35:47,799
doesn't even know what's in there that he has to

3484
03:35:47,920 --> 03:35:49,719
put out. Is it a grease fire, is it a

3485
03:35:49,799 --> 03:35:50,360
fuel fire?

3486
03:35:50,680 --> 03:35:51,079
Speaker 7: What is it?

3487
03:35:51,200 --> 03:35:52,319
Speaker 2: What do I even use?

3488
03:35:53,040 --> 03:35:53,079
Speaker 6: So?

3489
03:35:53,319 --> 03:35:55,559
Speaker 2: I mean he's just trying to make keep it all

3490
03:35:55,719 --> 03:35:59,680
under control the best he can. And frankly, I'm not

3491
03:36:00,040 --> 03:36:03,200
everybody here knows that I'm I'm not enamored of the man,

3492
03:36:03,319 --> 03:36:06,079
but I do actually have to respect the fact that

3493
03:36:06,280 --> 03:36:09,600
he has grabbed the bull by the horns and is

3494
03:36:10,200 --> 03:36:14,040
keeping public confidence at a higher level than I would

3495
03:36:14,079 --> 03:36:18,040
have ever imagined possible given what he inherited. By all means,

3496
03:36:18,079 --> 03:36:19,399
d please take where you want it to go.

3497
03:36:20,840 --> 03:36:23,440
Speaker 3: Well, just just forse abri if you mention it, but

3498
03:36:23,680 --> 03:36:26,639
just as a how bad things really are? The US

3499
03:36:26,760 --> 03:36:30,120
Navy just lost a battle for the first time since

3500
03:36:30,239 --> 03:36:35,040
nineteen forty one, the US Navy was decisively defeated.

3501
03:36:35,760 --> 03:36:38,319
Speaker 1: In the Red Sea. Bite people with no navy.

3502
03:36:39,120 --> 03:36:43,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's exactly my point. Yes, that's that's that's

3503
03:36:43,840 --> 03:36:48,559
exactly my point. Look at how is yes right? And

3504
03:36:48,719 --> 03:36:51,159
that's that's the point. I'm dying trying to draw to

3505
03:36:51,200 --> 03:36:54,760
people the irony, and basically I'll TLDR it right here,

3506
03:36:54,920 --> 03:37:00,879
then I'll then I'll see the floor. Everybody thinks that

3507
03:37:01,120 --> 03:37:03,600
though I know how bad it is, and it's like, no,

3508
03:37:03,959 --> 03:37:07,680
you really don't. And I freely admit, as informed as

3509
03:37:07,760 --> 03:37:09,959
I am, and as attentive as I am, and as

3510
03:37:10,000 --> 03:37:13,360
much of a natural investigator as I am, I freely admit, no,

3511
03:37:13,920 --> 03:37:17,000
I probably have no idea how bad it really is.

3512
03:37:18,000 --> 03:37:20,680
And not to be flippant, but the meme is is

3513
03:37:20,840 --> 03:37:23,159
truer than I think. Even the people that bandy it

3514
03:37:23,239 --> 03:37:26,959
about realize. It's like, no, you if only you knew

3515
03:37:27,079 --> 03:37:30,319
how bad things really are, so continue please.

3516
03:37:33,079 --> 03:37:37,200
Speaker 1: What I've come to realize is that a lot of

3517
03:37:37,280 --> 03:37:40,920
people are Some people make the argument that OT, it'd

3518
03:37:40,959 --> 03:37:45,079
be better if you know you pushed Trump, you push

3519
03:37:45,159 --> 03:37:49,479
to vote for Trump. Sure, I thought there was a

3520
03:37:49,559 --> 03:37:53,360
better chance of me not ending up dead with Trump

3521
03:37:53,479 --> 03:37:59,600
in charge than Kamala in charge. I'm sorry, I just

3522
03:37:59,680 --> 03:38:02,479
happen to study what they were planning on passing and

3523
03:38:02,559 --> 03:38:04,559
some of the things that they were doing they were

3524
03:38:04,639 --> 03:38:07,280
planning on doing, and I'm like, h I think a

3525
03:38:07,319 --> 03:38:09,079
lot of us aren't going to be able to survive that.

3526
03:38:09,799 --> 03:38:14,399
So at least we have four years of you know, probable,

3527
03:38:16,440 --> 03:38:19,760
you know, breathing room to try to get things in

3528
03:38:19,959 --> 03:38:22,479
place that we wouldn't have we wouldn't have been able

3529
03:38:22,559 --> 03:38:27,079
to do, you know, when she just completely created the economy.

3530
03:38:27,319 --> 03:38:29,719
And I still think there is some economic hardship coming up,

3531
03:38:29,760 --> 03:38:31,559
But I mean I think that that's just that that

3532
03:38:31,719 --> 03:38:33,799
was inevitable anyway, that was baked into the cake, no

3533
03:38:33,879 --> 03:38:39,399
matter what you do. But you know, I still come

3534
03:38:39,520 --> 03:38:45,159
back to a lot of this arguing over policy and

3535
03:38:45,600 --> 03:38:51,600
arguing over you know, how how controlled this government is

3536
03:38:52,440 --> 03:38:59,200
by Zionists or controlled by anyone everything that's doing. I

3537
03:38:59,319 --> 03:39:03,959
still come back to the fact that there's going to

3538
03:39:04,079 --> 03:39:08,000
be my enemy is going to get elected and is

3539
03:39:08,040 --> 03:39:11,360
going to be in charge. My enemy will control the

3540
03:39:11,479 --> 03:39:15,600
House or the Senate or both, and the White House,

3541
03:39:16,280 --> 03:39:22,520
and in the future and there when I look at

3542
03:39:22,520 --> 03:39:24,799
what when I look at some of the things they

3543
03:39:24,879 --> 03:39:29,520
did from twenty twenty to twenty twenty four to some

3544
03:39:29,680 --> 03:39:34,600
people who would nominally be fellow travelers, I think that

3545
03:39:36,319 --> 03:39:41,200
if you're Trump's not going to destroy his enemies or

3546
03:39:41,319 --> 03:39:47,239
destroy our enemies, so we have a road ahead of us.

3547
03:39:47,920 --> 03:39:52,239
That arguing about a lot of policy and things like

3548
03:39:52,360 --> 03:39:56,159
that is you know, I think the policy you should

3549
03:39:56,159 --> 03:39:59,600
be people should be paying attention to at this point

3550
03:39:59,799 --> 03:40:03,799
is monetary because that's something that you're going to want

3551
03:40:03,840 --> 03:40:07,680
to figure out how to take advantage of because it

3552
03:40:07,719 --> 03:40:09,159
may be the only thing that might be able to

3553
03:40:10,000 --> 03:40:13,239
be able to buy you out. Or you know the

3554
03:40:14,479 --> 03:40:19,159
famous Greg Hood tweet about you know, just life in

3555
03:40:19,200 --> 03:40:22,280
the United States being about making enough money to get

3556
03:40:22,280 --> 03:40:24,959
away from the consequences as a Civil Rights Act while

3557
03:40:25,000 --> 03:40:27,360
you're hiding about while you're hiding your intentions of what

3558
03:40:27,440 --> 03:40:27,799
you're doing.

3559
03:40:29,319 --> 03:40:31,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to be a third world country. You

3560
03:40:31,120 --> 03:40:32,600
have the money to bribe yourself out of it.

3561
03:40:34,120 --> 03:40:36,879
Speaker 1: Yeah. So if we're if our enemies are going to

3562
03:40:36,920 --> 03:40:40,120
be in power again at some point, what do we do?

3563
03:40:41,280 --> 03:40:46,520
And it's inevitable, I mean, no one can once you

3564
03:40:46,680 --> 03:40:53,040
come to that realization. Once you get the acceptance of that,

3565
03:40:53,520 --> 03:40:56,719
you can go through the stages of grief. But then

3566
03:40:56,760 --> 03:41:00,520
you'll get to the acceptance stage when you have to

3567
03:41:00,559 --> 03:41:02,479
be like, Okay, well, what are we going to do?

3568
03:41:04,360 --> 03:41:08,319
Speaker 3: Oldgloryclub dot com I think is the proper website. And

3569
03:41:08,440 --> 03:41:11,319
it doesn't even if it even if Donald Trump was

3570
03:41:11,399 --> 03:41:15,840
like the president of our dreams, right, you know, we

3571
03:41:16,040 --> 03:41:19,040
just just said article two and like went ham and

3572
03:41:19,159 --> 03:41:23,319
made Mussolini after the marching room looked like a piker. Right,

3573
03:41:24,639 --> 03:41:32,520
there's still a population of what thirty million Africans in

3574
03:41:32,520 --> 03:41:39,159
the United States, probably equal number of absolute rabbid shit libs.

3575
03:41:41,319 --> 03:41:41,440
Speaker 6: You know.

3576
03:41:41,559 --> 03:41:44,719
Speaker 1: That's that's like a really big country. That's like your brand.

3577
03:41:44,840 --> 03:41:48,239
Speaker 3: We have in your brand sized population of people that

3578
03:41:48,360 --> 03:41:53,360
are irredeemably hostile to us. No matter what, You're gonna

3579
03:41:53,360 --> 03:41:54,639
have to learn to live with that, or deal with that,

3580
03:41:54,959 --> 03:41:59,879
or just find a way to live so that the

3581
03:42:00,079 --> 03:42:02,360
people can't destroy you. I don't know what else to

3582
03:42:02,440 --> 03:42:09,879
tell people, right, Like, even if you know Greg Gabbott

3583
03:42:10,319 --> 03:42:12,719
suddenly found the spine within himself the stand up for

3584
03:42:12,799 --> 03:42:18,760
Texas and like ban that that monkey statue and start

3585
03:42:18,959 --> 03:42:23,280
you know, punishing people for fraud and getting rid of

3586
03:42:23,360 --> 03:42:27,680
all the you know, massive subsidies to H one b

3587
03:42:27,920 --> 03:42:30,520
s and all all of that right and militarize the

3588
03:42:30,559 --> 03:42:32,879
border and put the Texas National Guard on the border.

3589
03:42:32,680 --> 03:42:32,760
Speaker 6: And.

3590
03:42:35,280 --> 03:42:37,920
Speaker 3: You know, all all the state governors and all of

3591
03:42:38,000 --> 03:42:45,000
our good states. You know, got serious, there's still Gavin

3592
03:42:45,040 --> 03:42:48,040
Newsom is nothing it's gonna make Gavin Newsom not hate you.

3593
03:42:49,840 --> 03:42:52,239
He will hate you to the day he dies. So

3594
03:42:52,319 --> 03:42:56,840
how do you deal with that? Because he has power? Yeah,

3595
03:42:56,879 --> 03:42:58,959
I mean what is what is liberalism?

3596
03:42:59,440 --> 03:42:59,600
Speaker 6: You know?

3597
03:43:00,200 --> 03:43:04,719
Speaker 1: Get you? I mean this is all about liberalism. So

3598
03:43:06,559 --> 03:43:09,840
if you still have it in your mind of oh,

3599
03:43:09,879 --> 03:43:13,719
I'm an individual and you know, individual rights is what's

3600
03:43:13,799 --> 03:43:18,280
most important. People think that, like you know, in Germany,

3601
03:43:18,799 --> 03:43:22,959
they didn't have individual rights because you know, it was

3602
03:43:23,559 --> 03:43:26,079
the state was controlled. Well why was the state controlling things?

3603
03:43:26,159 --> 03:43:28,840
Because if the state didn't control things, there was a

3604
03:43:28,920 --> 03:43:32,600
certain group that had basically destroyed everything. But you know,

3605
03:43:32,760 --> 03:43:36,440
even people like Carl Benjamin Sarging of a cod He's saying, now,

3606
03:43:36,920 --> 03:43:40,479
liberalism can only destroy as it is an entire doctrine

3607
03:43:40,520 --> 03:43:44,840
which revolves around breaking human relationships. What we what are

3608
03:43:44,920 --> 03:43:45,799
we doing here?

3609
03:43:45,920 --> 03:43:46,040
Speaker 6: Man?

3610
03:43:46,239 --> 03:43:49,200
Speaker 1: There's nothing to build out of. You have to accept

3611
03:43:49,280 --> 03:43:52,600
powers a natural thing humans wield as social animals, and

3612
03:43:52,680 --> 03:43:55,440
therefore we have to do something at some point. And

3613
03:43:55,760 --> 03:44:01,239
there's this guy walk all distance, who he read tweets

3614
03:44:01,280 --> 03:44:04,440
and goes, this is just wrong. Liberalism is not about

3615
03:44:04,479 --> 03:44:08,360
breaking human relationships. It's just silly. One reason this is

3616
03:44:08,440 --> 03:44:11,000
all going nowhere is that people talk past each other

3617
03:44:11,600 --> 03:44:13,959
or play hide the ball with their end goals, and

3618
03:44:14,079 --> 03:44:18,120
so nothing ever gets discussed properly. And my comment to

3619
03:44:18,280 --> 03:44:22,040
that was, quote, dialogue with people who want you dead

3620
03:44:22,120 --> 03:44:30,840
will solve everything. What are we doing here? I mean,

3621
03:44:31,040 --> 03:44:35,079
if yeah, it's time to tribe up, but you can't

3622
03:44:35,200 --> 03:44:38,639
trib up with people like this. You can't trib up

3623
03:44:38,680 --> 03:44:40,239
with people who think that all you need to do

3624
03:44:40,399 --> 03:44:42,399
is have a conversation with the person who want All

3625
03:44:42,440 --> 03:44:44,879
you need to do is have a conversation with those anarchists.

3626
03:44:44,959 --> 03:44:48,920
In the Spanish Civil War, if those priests had just

3627
03:44:49,840 --> 03:44:54,399
explained to these anarchists and these communists that you know, hey,

3628
03:44:54,479 --> 03:44:57,680
you know we we're nonviolent, We're not going to hurt you. Oh,

3629
03:44:57,760 --> 03:45:00,600
they wouldn't have slaughtered them. Is that what these fucking

3630
03:45:00,639 --> 03:45:01,280
dummies think?

3631
03:45:02,479 --> 03:45:03,680
Speaker 2: And here's the irony.

3632
03:45:06,600 --> 03:45:08,280
Speaker 3: Here's I think that've been in the gospel. Where are

3633
03:45:08,280 --> 03:45:10,159
the Lord tells us aple to shake the dust off

3634
03:45:10,200 --> 03:45:10,559
their feet?

3635
03:45:10,680 --> 03:45:15,040
Speaker 2: You know, like, yeah, and here's the irony. The problem

3636
03:45:15,120 --> 03:45:17,440
isn't that Franco killed these people. The problem is he

3637
03:45:17,479 --> 03:45:20,440
didn't kill enough of them. Look look what Spain's going

3638
03:45:20,520 --> 03:45:23,319
through right now. For crying out loud, what's he gonna do?

3639
03:45:23,440 --> 03:45:26,360
The like again, I hate to keep harping on this,

3640
03:45:26,600 --> 03:45:29,680
but what's the boomera attitude going to do? Just look

3641
03:45:29,719 --> 03:45:32,120
them in the eye and shake their hand, write Pete.

3642
03:45:32,120 --> 03:45:33,600
If you just looked them in the eye and shake

3643
03:45:33,639 --> 03:45:37,719
their hand, these anarchists, these communists, they'll be they'll understand

3644
03:45:37,799 --> 03:45:40,000
what you want. You can just find a common ground.

3645
03:45:40,040 --> 03:45:44,159
It'll all work out. No, it really won't. No, it

3646
03:45:44,360 --> 03:45:47,399
really won't. And even when you try and get rid

3647
03:45:47,479 --> 03:45:49,559
of all of them, you still have to make sure

3648
03:45:49,600 --> 03:45:52,399
that you you do it thoroughly. Because that's what Spain's

3649
03:45:52,479 --> 03:45:55,600
enduring now, is the fact that Franco actually had some

3650
03:45:55,799 --> 03:45:58,440
compassion and mercy. And we're like, well, I'm not just

3651
03:45:58,559 --> 03:46:03,840
gonna kill and higher entire countrysides full of you people.

3652
03:46:04,479 --> 03:46:06,760
I'm just gonna try and to have a few firing

3653
03:46:06,840 --> 03:46:09,040
squads and get rid of the worst of you. Well,

3654
03:46:09,520 --> 03:46:11,639
apparently that that didn't work out either.

3655
03:46:12,920 --> 03:46:18,600
Speaker 1: Well, I mean I know you got anything, Jose, I

3656
03:46:18,680 --> 03:46:23,000
mean yeah, like this whole notion that you're just gonna have.

3657
03:46:24,799 --> 03:46:30,920
Speaker 6: Like discourse with people that just cannot agree on basic

3658
03:46:31,079 --> 03:46:36,520
fundamentals of like well, like the questions of life. You're

3659
03:46:36,600 --> 03:46:40,319
just it's the perpetual discourse trap that will lead to

3660
03:46:40,479 --> 03:46:44,559
your civilization's demise. Like the time for talking is over,

3661
03:46:44,799 --> 03:46:47,520
like the the only debate that is to be had

3662
03:46:47,600 --> 03:46:49,799
is how we're going to dispose of these people, because Yeah,

3663
03:46:49,840 --> 03:46:55,520
if you don't thoroughly liquidate them and build institutions that

3664
03:46:55,680 --> 03:47:01,120
prevent these people from ever reconstituting them so and insinuating

3665
03:47:01,159 --> 03:47:04,879
themselves in your like society and governing structures, you're just

3666
03:47:04,959 --> 03:47:07,520
gonna repeat a vicious cycle of like decline.

3667
03:47:07,600 --> 03:47:09,360
Speaker 1: And we have to like start.

3668
03:47:10,680 --> 03:47:15,319
Speaker 6: Thinking outside the box now and discarding failed doctrines of

3669
03:47:15,360 --> 03:47:16,000
like liberalism.

3670
03:47:18,280 --> 03:47:20,040
Speaker 3: Well, how can they get along with us if their

3671
03:47:20,159 --> 03:47:27,159
very existence, uh, just is contingent on them being able

3672
03:47:27,159 --> 03:47:28,840
to paaras that off of us. I mean, I know

3673
03:47:28,920 --> 03:47:31,600
I bring it up all the time, but really, the

3674
03:47:31,719 --> 03:47:34,280
show we did, the shows we did about race Horn

3675
03:47:34,399 --> 03:47:39,719
High School. Ever since the nineteen sixty eight teachers strike

3676
03:47:40,040 --> 03:47:46,479
in New York, right government workers have basically been given

3677
03:47:46,520 --> 03:47:50,799
the deal of you will have an absurd pension. Do

3678
03:47:50,920 --> 03:47:53,159
your twenty years in government, and you will get a

3679
03:47:53,200 --> 03:47:56,440
pension where instead of you know, fifty percent or sixty

3680
03:47:56,520 --> 03:47:59,600
percent of your of your salary, right, you're gonna get

3681
03:47:59,600 --> 03:48:01,559
like ninety percent of your salary for the rest of

3682
03:48:01,600 --> 03:48:05,799
your life. There's no way someone, you know, the average

3683
03:48:05,840 --> 03:48:09,280
person is not capable of putting the interests of the

3684
03:48:09,360 --> 03:48:12,639
whole above that of themselves and for the greater good

3685
03:48:12,719 --> 03:48:21,079
of society, sacrificing that ninety percent pension for the for

3686
03:48:21,159 --> 03:48:23,479
the common good. They're just not going to do it.

3687
03:48:24,680 --> 03:48:27,680
And so you know, like, yes, you have to completely

3688
03:48:27,719 --> 03:48:31,559
destroy the teachers union because the teachers Union is hostile

3689
03:48:32,319 --> 03:48:37,920
to civilization. There's no there's no like, oh, well, we

3690
03:48:38,000 --> 03:48:41,399
can make it better, Like, no, you can't. You have

3691
03:48:41,520 --> 03:48:43,079
to destroy. You have to burn it to the roots.

3692
03:48:43,079 --> 03:48:44,799
And then you have to break the roots up and

3693
03:48:44,920 --> 03:48:51,399
burn those and you know, like they're not a conversation

3694
03:48:51,520 --> 03:48:57,440
can't happen where, you know, in a public park. Recently,

3695
03:48:57,479 --> 03:49:00,520
there was a black militia group right there's in the

3696
03:49:00,559 --> 03:49:02,920
park strouding about how they want to kill every white person.

3697
03:49:04,559 --> 03:49:08,479
How you can't live with those people. Figure it out.

3698
03:49:09,399 --> 03:49:12,600
Speaker 1: If you state that, somebody's going to say you're racist.

3699
03:49:14,120 --> 03:49:16,360
I mean there are people who still you know. It's

3700
03:49:16,440 --> 03:49:21,200
like I was having a conversation with someone on Twitter today.

3701
03:49:21,600 --> 03:49:26,440
I said, multiracial, multiracial societies don't work. I said, really,

3702
03:49:26,559 --> 03:49:29,239
the only thing multiracial society right now that's kind of

3703
03:49:29,360 --> 03:49:33,200
orderly on the on the planet is Singapore, and it's

3704
03:49:33,479 --> 03:49:36,440
kind of multiracial. I mean, all those people are sort

3705
03:49:36,479 --> 03:49:39,920
of most of the people who have congregated there are

3706
03:49:40,120 --> 03:49:42,840
sort of in the same kind of family. They at

3707
03:49:42,920 --> 03:49:46,639
least a lot of them look look somewhat alike. But

3708
03:49:46,760 --> 03:49:49,799
how do they keep order there? They keep order by

3709
03:49:49,920 --> 03:49:53,079
they're going to they will kill you if you get

3710
03:49:53,120 --> 03:49:55,879
out of line, or they will cane you publicly if

3711
03:49:55,920 --> 03:49:58,040
you get out of line. And I'm saying, you know,

3712
03:49:58,280 --> 03:50:01,280
multiracial society just doesn't work, and they're saying, no, you no,

3713
03:50:01,639 --> 03:50:03,920
It's it's not about race. It's about the fact that

3714
03:50:04,159 --> 03:50:09,120
people can vote. That's like, I mean, if I lived

3715
03:50:09,200 --> 03:50:13,399
in a if I lived in a monoculture or a

3716
03:50:14,120 --> 03:50:19,200
mono racial society. I mean basically, voting comes down to

3717
03:50:20,000 --> 03:50:25,079
what you know, someone wants, Who's who's going to give

3718
03:50:25,200 --> 03:50:31,120
more gibbs to my cousin. I mean it if people

3719
03:50:31,280 --> 03:50:35,360
can't even get past this and see this, I mean

3720
03:50:35,440 --> 03:50:37,479
there there people are willing to fight and die for

3721
03:50:37,559 --> 03:50:40,319
those beliefs that we can live in a multiracial society,

3722
03:50:40,399 --> 03:50:43,280
that this should be a multi racial society, that this

3723
03:50:43,600 --> 03:50:46,639
should be. You know, it doesn't matter what this is.

3724
03:50:48,280 --> 03:50:51,040
You know, it doesn't matter anybody anyone can be an American.

3725
03:50:52,879 --> 03:50:58,639
I mean you can't have a conversation with those people. Yeah,

3726
03:50:58,680 --> 03:51:00,719
going back to the point of the US cycle.

3727
03:51:02,440 --> 03:51:07,440
Speaker 6: Even in this theoretical multi racial polity where voting rights

3728
03:51:07,440 --> 03:51:13,399
are restricted, the there's gonna be tension one way or

3729
03:51:13,440 --> 03:51:16,159
the other, Like say twenty to thirty years on the line,

3730
03:51:16,159 --> 03:51:18,399
when it becomes clear that there's like a minority that's

3731
03:51:18,520 --> 03:51:21,399
only able to exercise political power and then you have

3732
03:51:21,520 --> 03:51:25,159
like a massive hell it class that can't vote. That

3733
03:51:25,399 --> 03:51:28,639
health class is going to eventually clash, if not revolt,

3734
03:51:28,799 --> 03:51:29,079
Like this.

3735
03:51:29,200 --> 03:51:31,520
Speaker 1: Is not this is not something.

3736
03:51:31,639 --> 03:51:34,840
Speaker 6: This is like a future evil that has to be prevented.

3737
03:51:35,200 --> 03:51:37,680
And you do that by having a coherent, like a

3738
03:51:37,799 --> 03:51:42,000
racially coherent polity, like yeah, screw that, Like I don't

3739
03:51:42,079 --> 03:51:46,879
want to pass on like a future conflict to our

3740
03:51:47,000 --> 03:51:52,280
posterity just to scratch someone's ideological itch.

3741
03:51:54,280 --> 03:51:56,559
Speaker 3: Well, and that's that's what Inacpalacid that you know, the

3742
03:51:56,680 --> 03:52:02,040
chief job of statesman was was the of foreseeable evils.

3743
03:52:02,719 --> 03:52:07,079
And you know, we have this huge population of mestizos

3744
03:52:07,159 --> 03:52:11,440
that maybe they vote, maybe they don't, but you you

3745
03:52:11,760 --> 03:52:15,079
just set up and you've already seen it, like how

3746
03:52:15,120 --> 03:52:19,159
many blacks are left in Los Angeles. They've been pushed out.

3747
03:52:20,760 --> 03:52:22,719
There aren't any blacks left in continent or not not

3748
03:52:22,840 --> 03:52:27,040
any but like you know, the birthplace of gangster wrap.

3749
03:52:27,159 --> 03:52:33,959
Now you hear ranchero music, and the white people are

3750
03:52:33,959 --> 03:52:36,040
sitting there, Well, you know, we should just get along.

3751
03:52:36,440 --> 03:52:39,520
Why can't we have rap, ranchero music and everyone be friendly.

3752
03:52:41,920 --> 03:52:42,680
Speaker 1: Well, because.

3753
03:52:44,760 --> 03:52:48,399
Speaker 3: They're not capable of growing the economic pie. They needed

3754
03:52:48,799 --> 03:52:52,120
their ticks on the body politic of the state of California,

3755
03:52:52,680 --> 03:52:54,879
on the on the white industries and the aerospace industry,

3756
03:52:54,959 --> 03:52:58,719
on the tech industry, on the you know, Hollywood industry.

3757
03:52:58,719 --> 03:53:02,280
That that's all brought there by other people, and they

3758
03:53:03,200 --> 03:53:07,239
are remorras on the body, you know, like following that

3759
03:53:07,319 --> 03:53:11,959
those industries around and there's only so many scraps to

3760
03:53:12,000 --> 03:53:16,319
go around. If they were capable of building fresh world

3761
03:53:16,360 --> 03:53:19,840
countries on their own, they'd have built them already.

3762
03:53:20,959 --> 03:53:24,959
Speaker 1: Show me one. Yeah, it's the old it's the old

3763
03:53:25,040 --> 03:53:29,120
tripe about how much you know, blacks will just shit

3764
03:53:29,200 --> 03:53:32,440
on whites all day about being you know, being violent

3765
03:53:32,559 --> 03:53:34,680
and being you know, oh, you're the real violent ones.

3766
03:53:34,719 --> 03:53:37,719
Look at the things you've done historically. Yet they just

3767
03:53:37,879 --> 03:53:40,440
want to be around they want to be around white people.

3768
03:53:41,360 --> 03:53:43,440
But they don't want to be around white people as

3769
03:53:43,680 --> 03:53:50,799
like you know, a cast that needs to be I

3770
03:53:50,840 --> 03:53:55,399
don't know, treated like children. No, they want to dominate.

3771
03:53:56,440 --> 03:54:00,760
And all that turns into is is violence and chimping

3772
03:54:00,840 --> 03:54:06,319
out and killing. I mean, I talk about this all

3773
03:54:06,360 --> 03:54:09,120
the time. There was there's always been ever since the

3774
03:54:09,200 --> 03:54:11,680
ending of slavery, there's been black crime. But there was

3775
03:54:11,719 --> 03:54:14,360
a time when black crime was much lower. And that

3776
03:54:14,520 --> 03:54:23,280
was at a time when one it was permissible trying

3777
03:54:23,639 --> 03:54:26,319
not to get in trouble here, it was permissible to

3778
03:54:28,079 --> 03:54:35,479
let's say, what's the word I'm looking for to I

3779
03:54:35,520 --> 03:54:39,879
don't want to use punish, but you know, to discipline

3780
03:54:41,760 --> 03:54:45,479
someone when they got out of line. And also there

3781
03:54:45,639 --> 03:54:49,200
was and what I will point out is when that

3782
03:54:49,399 --> 03:54:55,520
time existed, Blacks did a lot better financially, family wise,

3783
03:54:56,879 --> 03:55:01,920
all down the line, they did pretty good. Well it

3784
03:55:02,079 --> 03:55:03,120
wasn't yeah.

3785
03:55:02,959 --> 03:55:05,559
Speaker 3: Good, Well why should Why should I care how well

3786
03:55:05,600 --> 03:55:08,520
they're doing. They're not my countrymen. They they were given

3787
03:55:08,559 --> 03:55:10,600
the chance to be my countryman, and they.

3788
03:55:10,639 --> 03:55:13,079
Speaker 1: Well they're not. They're not. They're not going anywhere. That's

3789
03:55:13,120 --> 03:55:14,920
the point I'm trying to make. They're not going anywhere.

3790
03:55:15,079 --> 03:55:18,120
Anyone who's screaming, anyone who's screaming, oh, we're sending the

3791
03:55:18,159 --> 03:55:21,879
Blacks back to Africa. You sound like a libertarian saying,

3792
03:55:22,000 --> 03:55:25,280
just in the state, bro, they're not going anywhere. Well, yeah,

3793
03:55:25,319 --> 03:55:27,520
and so how do we deal with them in the future?

3794
03:55:29,159 --> 03:55:31,639
Speaker 3: At a distance and being well armed. That's that's how

3795
03:55:31,680 --> 03:55:35,959
you deal with them. And right like Donald Trump should.

3796
03:55:36,000 --> 03:55:39,680
Speaker 1: Well, you're talking about secession. And when you start talking

3797
03:55:39,680 --> 03:55:43,280
about secession, the people who are like, well, that means

3798
03:55:43,319 --> 03:55:45,239
you're getting away from the cities, and the cities is

3799
03:55:45,280 --> 03:55:48,959
where all the power is, bro. And and secession just

3800
03:55:49,079 --> 03:55:51,440
means that China is going to come in and they're

3801
03:55:51,520 --> 03:55:53,559
going to take over, and you'll just be you'll be

3802
03:55:53,600 --> 03:55:56,479
as slaves to Chinese now and everything. People, I mean,

3803
03:55:56,920 --> 03:55:59,760
this is shit that I see, Like literally, people I

3804
03:56:00,120 --> 03:56:02,079
know and I like, people I've had on my show

3805
03:56:02,639 --> 03:56:05,120
say stuff like that. You know, it's like, oh, you're

3806
03:56:05,200 --> 03:56:07,959
gonna you can't have succession to get away from people

3807
03:56:08,040 --> 03:56:11,479
and start your own and do your own thing, because

3808
03:56:11,639 --> 03:56:14,120
either you're going to be wacoed or you know, the

3809
03:56:14,239 --> 03:56:16,200
Chinese will own you in ten years.

3810
03:56:17,440 --> 03:56:19,879
Speaker 3: Well, okay, two things to that. First of all, like

3811
03:56:20,440 --> 03:56:23,559
if there's someone who's thought more about cities and what

3812
03:56:23,680 --> 03:56:25,079
it means to live in a city and how to

3813
03:56:25,120 --> 03:56:27,479
build a beautiful city in our thing than me, I

3814
03:56:27,559 --> 03:56:29,920
want to meet that guy because I have stuff to learn.

3815
03:56:30,000 --> 03:56:40,200
But secondly, if you're going to the Chinese might take

3816
03:56:40,280 --> 03:56:45,680
over say Washington State or California, they already in some

3817
03:56:47,440 --> 03:56:51,079
large measure control the Democratic operative or democratic parties in

3818
03:56:51,079 --> 03:56:58,399
those states. They're at least interested in, you know, a

3819
03:56:58,520 --> 03:57:06,559
functioning society. Two to colonize. They don't, they don't want

3820
03:57:07,360 --> 03:57:11,159
Like do they put up with the monkey shines in Africa? No,

3821
03:57:11,840 --> 03:57:14,280
they show up, they put up. They put up with

3822
03:57:14,280 --> 03:57:16,440
a certain amount of nonsense. When the Africans aren't capable

3823
03:57:16,440 --> 03:57:19,200
of delivering, what do they do. They parachute in you know,

3824
03:57:20,600 --> 03:57:24,479
twenty thousand Chinese single guys, and those guys take over.

3825
03:57:26,360 --> 03:57:28,319
I'm saying I would like the Chinese to take over.

3826
03:57:29,799 --> 03:57:32,479
I'm saying that the Chinese have a certain amount of

3827
03:57:32,520 --> 03:57:39,239
interest in like competent governance and in a future where

3828
03:57:39,319 --> 03:57:41,680
where Pax American is no longer a thing like this

3829
03:57:41,760 --> 03:57:46,280
whole war in Indian China Indian Pakistan was over. You know,

3830
03:57:46,399 --> 03:57:53,719
I believe the Ganges, the course of the Ganges. Do

3831
03:57:53,879 --> 03:57:56,680
you think that you know, resources are going to get

3832
03:57:56,840 --> 03:57:59,319
cheaper in the future as they're you know, nine billion

3833
03:57:59,399 --> 03:58:07,079
people on Earth, They're not so in a in a

3834
03:58:07,159 --> 03:58:09,920
world where the US Navy is no longer ruling the

3835
03:58:09,959 --> 03:58:14,600
waves and securing the trade routes. You know, deal with

3836
03:58:14,680 --> 03:58:20,559
the reality in front of you. Chinese is uh, you know,

3837
03:58:21,280 --> 03:58:26,600
satrepies in you know, Los Angeles, they'd probably provide better

3838
03:58:26,680 --> 03:58:33,120
services than the president State of California. Honestly, because the

3839
03:58:33,200 --> 03:58:39,719
Chinese wouldn't tolerate the homeless scattle under Chinese domination would

3840
03:58:39,760 --> 03:58:46,200
probably smell better leave in the world you're actually in

3841
03:58:47,920 --> 03:58:49,719
and you know, like with the ideology of like I

3842
03:58:49,760 --> 03:58:51,440
I don't want will be ruled over by foreigners, You're

3843
03:58:51,479 --> 03:58:55,120
ruled over by foreigners. Now go back to the beginning

3844
03:58:55,159 --> 03:58:57,639
of this conversation, who's actually in charge of America?

3845
03:58:59,000 --> 03:59:00,719
Speaker 1: Well then they say, well, we don't. We don't want

3846
03:59:00,760 --> 03:59:02,760
to be ruled over by those people. It's like, okay,

3847
03:59:02,799 --> 03:59:06,079
well then how are you gonna stop it? Everybody wants

3848
03:59:06,120 --> 03:59:08,799
to talk about you know, how put it this way?

3849
03:59:08,840 --> 03:59:14,159
Every what I see is h what what a lot

3850
03:59:14,239 --> 03:59:18,799
of people make fun of boomers for or enormies. Oh,

3851
03:59:18,920 --> 03:59:20,879
we're just gonna if we vote that we vote the

3852
03:59:20,959 --> 03:59:22,760
right person. You know, we're going to vote someone in

3853
03:59:23,239 --> 03:59:27,120
and they're gonna make everything better. I mean, isn't that

3854
03:59:27,319 --> 03:59:29,680
exactly what a lot of people who are like, well,

3855
03:59:29,760 --> 03:59:32,920
secession isn't the answer, or thinking we just got to

3856
03:59:33,000 --> 03:59:34,920
vote the right person in bro and and then he'll

3857
03:59:34,959 --> 03:59:36,840
clean it up. Is going to have the Protestant Franco

3858
03:59:37,879 --> 03:59:42,319
and it's gonna you're not gonna believe what's gonna happen here. Well,

3859
03:59:43,280 --> 03:59:49,440
that sounds just like wish casting, Like that's something you

3860
03:59:50,479 --> 03:59:55,360
that you hope happens, but is outside the realm of reality.

3861
03:59:56,200 --> 04:00:00,760
So what do you do if that's outside there of reality?

3862
04:00:01,319 --> 04:00:02,959
And once you accept it, and I know it's hard

3863
04:00:03,000 --> 04:00:05,920
for people to accept because a lot of people are

3864
04:00:06,000 --> 04:00:10,920
just completely in denial, then you have to accept the

3865
04:00:10,959 --> 04:00:14,840
fact that you may need to start over. And the

3866
04:00:14,920 --> 04:00:19,760
best way to start over would be like organizing away

3867
04:00:19,840 --> 04:00:26,799
from from other people, and that maybe just maybe something

3868
04:00:26,840 --> 04:00:29,239
that would look like secession, whether it be de facto

3869
04:00:29,399 --> 04:00:37,239
or whatever, but the idea that you're going to take

3870
04:00:37,399 --> 04:00:42,639
back I mean take back a city. Oh, Republicans are

3871
04:00:42,639 --> 04:00:44,280
going to take back Atlanta. Okay, when was the last

3872
04:00:44,280 --> 04:00:47,879
time Atlanta was Republican? It's been a while, it's been

3873
04:00:47,959 --> 04:00:49,840
a while, it's entrenched.

3874
04:00:50,920 --> 04:00:53,319
Speaker 3: Well, oh, did Detroit had a Republican mayor?

3875
04:00:53,360 --> 04:00:53,440
Speaker 6: Oh?

3876
04:00:53,479 --> 04:00:58,280
Speaker 3: And did he fix anything? Is Detroit like a thriving metropolis?

3877
04:00:58,360 --> 04:00:58,479
Speaker 6: Now?

3878
04:01:00,680 --> 04:01:06,719
Speaker 3: No? I mean, this is the problem with people who

3879
04:01:06,799 --> 04:01:11,239
are too ideologically possessed. And I'll be quiet after this,

3880
04:01:11,360 --> 04:01:13,479
but I just get so annoyed with this because I

3881
04:01:13,600 --> 04:01:16,319
have studied cities and how they work and how they

3882
04:01:16,360 --> 04:01:18,760
function and what they mean in politics and all sorts

3883
04:01:18,799 --> 04:01:25,159
of this exact issue for like fifteen years Okay. The

3884
04:01:25,360 --> 04:01:33,559
only way, the only way to change a city that

3885
04:01:33,719 --> 04:01:40,120
has gone to the dogs is like a complete disaster,

3886
04:01:40,360 --> 04:01:45,159
like a Hurricane Katrina level event and authoritarian government period.

3887
04:01:46,319 --> 04:01:49,479
There's no city I know of that has turned around

3888
04:01:52,239 --> 04:01:57,040
on like purely democratic means where everyone was respected right,

3889
04:01:57,159 --> 04:02:00,120
purely democratic means, Because someone will bring up Berlin and

3890
04:02:02,000 --> 04:02:04,520
and you're gonna it's gonna be like, okay, yeah, well

3891
04:02:04,760 --> 04:02:10,760
when when Gebbels was gully tierre or gotta pronouncement? When

3892
04:02:10,799 --> 04:02:13,559
he was when he was the leader of Berlin? Was

3893
04:02:13,639 --> 04:02:16,559
he in charge or did he have to like listen

3894
04:02:16,600 --> 04:02:19,319
to a bunch of different people and get votes in

3895
04:02:19,399 --> 04:02:21,120
city council? Or was he just in charge? And could

3896
04:02:21,159 --> 04:02:21,840
he clean it Berlin?

3897
04:02:22,879 --> 04:02:25,600
Speaker 1: Did he have two hundred pounds she boons like nipping

3898
04:02:25,639 --> 04:02:29,280
at his heels and telling him what he needs to do? Yeah?

3899
04:02:29,319 --> 04:02:33,879
I don't. I don't think so. But d American cities

3900
04:02:33,920 --> 04:02:36,319
are going to be American cities can be like that?

3901
04:02:37,719 --> 04:02:44,159
Really No, no, really no they can't. No, they can't

3902
04:02:44,200 --> 04:02:46,520
for all kinds of reasons. And if you think they can,

3903
04:02:46,959 --> 04:02:48,399
and you've been listening to this show or me for

3904
04:02:48,440 --> 04:02:52,319
any length of time, you obviously have heard what I said,

3905
04:02:52,360 --> 04:02:58,520
but you weren't listening. There's a city in Texas right

3906
04:02:58,639 --> 04:03:04,719
now that's side is half half Hispanic. That four point

3907
04:03:04,760 --> 04:03:07,520
four million dollars of their income every year is being

3908
04:03:07,639 --> 04:03:15,200
sent to Israel. Who's fixing that? Who's fixing that? And

3909
04:03:15,319 --> 04:03:18,799
if somebody does fix that, maybe someone gets elected and

3910
04:03:19,000 --> 04:03:22,280
fixes that. What happens to the next person who gets elected?

3911
04:03:24,040 --> 04:03:27,239
Do you under do people not understand the fucking problem here?

3912
04:03:28,879 --> 04:03:33,239
The problem isn't Oh, you know we have all these

3913
04:03:33,239 --> 04:03:36,680
special interest groups. Well, yeah, that is part of the problem.

3914
04:03:36,799 --> 04:03:39,680
Part of the problem is ethnic groups are going to

3915
04:03:40,399 --> 04:03:43,000
Every ethnic group except whites is allowed to get together

3916
04:03:43,559 --> 04:03:48,440
and lobby for anything they want. But the main problem

3917
04:03:48,559 --> 04:03:51,639
is is the fact that you can elect the great,

3918
04:03:52,000 --> 04:03:55,319
you can elect the I mean, Okay, Sweden up into

3919
04:03:55,360 --> 04:04:00,200
a certain point around nineteen fifty early fifties, Sweden was

3920
04:04:00,360 --> 04:04:07,200
this thriving ethno state that had free markets and they

3921
04:04:07,559 --> 04:04:11,440
were wealthy as hell. And then what do they do.

3922
04:04:12,559 --> 04:04:14,520
Well they decided, well, you know, there are some people

3923
04:04:14,520 --> 04:04:16,360
who are poor here, so we're going to start We're

3924
04:04:16,399 --> 04:04:20,280
going to start a We're gonna we're going to have

3925
04:04:20,399 --> 04:04:25,280
a like a welfare state. Okay, well, people need to

3926
04:04:25,319 --> 04:04:28,760
be taken care of. But also if you don't police

3927
04:04:28,840 --> 04:04:31,079
that thing and make sure people who are being taken

3928
04:04:31,159 --> 04:04:32,760
care of are actually need to be taken care of,

3929
04:04:32,879 --> 04:04:34,399
that's going to go off the That's going to go

3930
04:04:34,479 --> 04:04:38,120
off the rails. And then what happened. They didn't gatekeep,

3931
04:04:38,639 --> 04:04:44,520
so eventually they were overrun by friggin savages. Now they

3932
04:04:44,559 --> 04:04:47,159
didn't choose for that to happen, but they're not doing

3933
04:04:47,239 --> 04:04:50,920
anything about it. And I've heard people recently say who've

3934
04:04:50,959 --> 04:04:55,079
been traveled, who've traveled through Europe, that south, the southern

3935
04:04:55,120 --> 04:04:58,360
part of Sweden, like Malmo, right right over from Copenhagen,

3936
04:04:59,600 --> 04:05:04,559
is the most dangerous place in Europe. How the fuck

3937
04:05:04,600 --> 04:05:11,440
does that happen? It happens because to my democracy and

3938
04:05:12,479 --> 04:05:21,120
you know, entrenched interests and not gatekeeping and not doing

3939
04:05:21,239 --> 04:05:26,760
every not understanding that order is a precious thing and

3940
04:05:26,920 --> 04:05:31,280
once you lose it, it's the possibility of getting it

3941
04:05:31,440 --> 04:05:35,879
back is almost impossible. The one group that did that

3942
04:05:38,040 --> 04:05:41,680
in the twentieth century, the whole world declared war on them.

3943
04:05:45,399 --> 04:05:51,760
So what are your what do you think you think

3944
04:05:51,840 --> 04:05:55,319
you're going to take over a city? I'm not talking

3945
04:05:55,360 --> 04:05:58,000
about like a town and I'm talking about a city

3946
04:05:58,040 --> 04:06:00,559
of twenty five thousand people. You can take are Atlanta.

3947
04:06:01,120 --> 04:06:04,000
You took off with Chicago, New York City, Los Angeles,

3948
04:06:04,120 --> 04:06:09,959
San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, where all the power comes from.

3949
04:06:10,319 --> 04:06:10,959
How are you gonna do that?

3950
04:06:12,680 --> 04:06:13,280
Speaker 2: How do you do that?

3951
04:06:13,520 --> 04:06:15,879
Speaker 1: Oh well, we're going to read The Battle for Berlin

3952
04:06:16,040 --> 04:06:18,600
by Joseph and we're going to do exactly what. Good

3953
04:06:18,680 --> 04:06:23,520
luck with that. Good luck with that. Sorry to be

3954
04:06:23,600 --> 04:06:26,559
a downer. I'm not one of these people who says

3955
04:06:26,719 --> 04:06:29,879
everything is a black pill. I have an answer, I

3956
04:06:30,040 --> 04:06:33,239
have answers. I have things that we can do. People

3957
04:06:33,360 --> 04:06:35,840
don't want Most people don't want to fucking hear them though,

3958
04:06:36,479 --> 04:06:41,600
because they've been I mean, they turn into civic nationalists

3959
04:06:42,040 --> 04:06:45,000
as soon as you start recommending something that that goes

3960
04:06:45,040 --> 04:06:49,760
against their programming. Anybody is free to disagree with me

3961
04:06:49,799 --> 04:06:52,440
and tell me where I'm wrong. I respect you, guess.

3962
04:06:55,879 --> 04:06:58,319
Speaker 2: I don't think you're wrong on anything necessarily, Pete. I

3963
04:06:58,559 --> 04:07:03,159
just just trying to thoughtful and trying to see where

3964
04:07:03,239 --> 04:07:07,399
the best way to kind of come alongside the discussion is.

3965
04:07:07,680 --> 04:07:10,239
And would I would say that one to step back

3966
04:07:10,239 --> 04:07:13,399
to an earlier point, you raised things were better when

3967
04:07:13,600 --> 04:07:18,159
we had the availability of extra judicial discipline, When you

3968
04:07:18,200 --> 04:07:20,840
could actually take care of your community and you didn't

3969
04:07:20,879 --> 04:07:24,040
need to rely on air quotes. Wherever the power was,

3970
04:07:24,600 --> 04:07:26,799
where the power was firmly in your hands and in

3971
04:07:26,879 --> 04:07:30,760
your community's hands, that's when things were better. And to

3972
04:07:30,840 --> 04:07:34,159
kind of address the larger macro point that I, if

3973
04:07:34,200 --> 04:07:37,879
I'm understanding you correctly, that you're making What people fail

3974
04:07:37,959 --> 04:07:41,719
to understand on the whole is that order does not

3975
04:07:42,040 --> 04:07:47,600
stem from prosperity. Prosperity stems from order. If you cannot

3976
04:07:47,680 --> 04:07:52,360
have order, then you will not have prosperity. The preponderance

3977
04:07:52,440 --> 04:07:58,280
of human history, life has been nasty and brutish and short.

3978
04:07:59,399 --> 04:08:03,319
Only when man decided to take the reins and to

3979
04:08:03,840 --> 04:08:10,840
actually impose order do things get better? Does prosperity start

3980
04:08:10,879 --> 04:08:14,959
to flow from that? If you expect prosperity to just manifest,

3981
04:08:16,360 --> 04:08:18,680
I don't know what to tell you, because even the

3982
04:08:18,799 --> 04:08:23,440
Bible would disagree with that, even the collected wisdom of

3983
04:08:23,600 --> 04:08:28,680
the Ages would disagree with that. Because, as any devout

3984
04:08:28,799 --> 04:08:31,399
Catholic will tell you, we live in a fallen world.

3985
04:08:32,079 --> 04:08:36,319
Goodness will not just spring out of nothingness. That doesn't

3986
04:08:36,399 --> 04:08:39,760
happen so I can kind of address your larger point

3987
04:08:39,840 --> 04:08:43,200
that I Please correct me if I misunderstand you. But

3988
04:08:43,399 --> 04:08:46,879
the issue at hand now is we need to establish

3989
04:08:47,159 --> 04:08:51,600
order in whatever areas we can and form it from there,

3990
04:08:51,799 --> 04:08:58,000
and from thence it will prosperity be possible. But even

3991
04:08:58,040 --> 04:09:02,280
then it's a long road to it. As regarding the cities,

3992
04:09:02,479 --> 04:09:05,040
some of the points you raised during the Cities you

3993
04:09:05,120 --> 04:09:07,239
said that there are people that approach you with, well,

3994
04:09:07,680 --> 04:09:10,040
that's where the power is. You can't let go of

3995
04:09:10,120 --> 04:09:12,520
the power in the cities. First off, well, we don't

3996
04:09:12,600 --> 04:09:15,440
have them already. The power is already out of our hands.

3997
04:09:15,799 --> 04:09:18,639
And second off, what power are we talking about? I

3998
04:09:18,760 --> 04:09:22,600
ask that in good faith and genuine genuinely what power

3999
04:09:22,639 --> 04:09:25,680
are we talking about? They can't They obviously can't even

4000
04:09:25,760 --> 04:09:29,639
manage themselves. Where if they do, it's only to the

4001
04:09:30,399 --> 04:09:33,840
barest degrees. As a matter of fact, our own illustrious

4002
04:09:33,920 --> 04:09:38,040
dark Enlightenment has said countless times, I think literally every

4003
04:09:38,200 --> 04:09:42,120
city in America is broke, literally every single one. Please

4004
04:09:42,159 --> 04:09:44,760
correct me if I'm wrong, deep, but I believe every

4005
04:09:44,879 --> 04:09:48,280
single one of them is broke, and obviously many to

4006
04:09:48,479 --> 04:09:54,280
degrees that are just completely completely unsalvageable. So these things

4007
04:09:54,639 --> 04:09:58,399
are all just going to collapse under their own weight,

4008
04:09:58,639 --> 04:10:02,479
either economically, demo, graphically, what have you. They're all going

4009
04:10:02,559 --> 04:10:04,719
to collapse under their own and all of these people,

4010
04:10:04,840 --> 04:10:08,000
these problems are going to starve themselves out of existence.

4011
04:10:08,680 --> 04:10:10,920
So I mean, does that mean we just run away

4012
04:10:10,959 --> 04:10:13,399
and hide. I'm not not necessarily saying that, but I

4013
04:10:13,520 --> 04:10:16,639
am saying that to your point that we just have

4014
04:10:16,760 --> 04:10:19,600
to establish order where we have it and understand that

4015
04:10:19,680 --> 04:10:24,559
it's it's going to be a long road. So you

4016
04:10:24,799 --> 04:10:26,360
gentlemen can take.

4017
04:10:26,319 --> 04:10:28,079
Speaker 3: The torch realized. I mean, I might be I might

4018
04:10:28,120 --> 04:10:30,520
be right, I might be wrong about it. I might

4019
04:10:30,600 --> 04:10:32,719
be right, it might be wrong technically speaking. I haven't

4020
04:10:32,760 --> 04:10:35,360
done an analysis of every single city in America, but

4021
04:10:35,399 --> 04:10:37,920
I have looked at you know, Chicago, Los Angeles, the

4022
04:10:38,000 --> 04:10:40,639
top twenty, and every one of them is in trouble

4023
04:10:41,639 --> 04:10:44,079
and not doing anything to fix it. And you know,

4024
04:10:44,760 --> 04:10:46,600
listen to previous programs that Peter and I have then

4025
04:10:46,639 --> 04:10:49,399
together about why this is a problem or other programs

4026
04:10:49,440 --> 04:10:55,079
are done. But to Charles's point, right, like, I'm not

4027
04:10:55,120 --> 04:10:57,959
the only person who does this. Looks at reads the

4028
04:10:57,959 --> 04:11:01,000
tea leaves and sees this fiscal catastrophe in the future.

4029
04:11:01,559 --> 04:11:04,040
Anyone who could read an actual aerial table would know

4030
04:11:04,159 --> 04:11:06,200
this sort of thing is a problem in the future,

4031
04:11:07,079 --> 04:11:08,159
and they don't do anything about it.

4032
04:11:11,200 --> 04:11:11,639
Speaker 1: Well why not?

4033
04:11:13,040 --> 04:11:17,440
Speaker 3: Well the answer is right either, as Jose says, you know,

4034
04:11:17,520 --> 04:11:22,360
the occupying government is more concerned with you know, what's

4035
04:11:22,399 --> 04:11:27,360
going on in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem than here or democratically.

4036
04:11:27,879 --> 04:11:30,319
You know, the population that's in Seattle just doesn't care

4037
04:11:32,000 --> 04:11:34,559
because they'll be dead then, or they need to get

4038
04:11:34,600 --> 04:11:37,920
re elected, or they need their free heroin right now

4039
04:11:38,040 --> 04:11:42,399
and not in three years. So you know that this

4040
04:11:42,559 --> 04:11:45,719
is an impending disaster. Get away from it.

4041
04:11:47,959 --> 04:11:52,040
Speaker 1: Yeah the end people take that as like running away

4042
04:11:53,079 --> 04:11:57,479
or seating ground. It's like, you don't seating ground would

4043
04:11:57,520 --> 04:12:02,639
imply that you have some ground right now politically. What

4044
04:12:03,600 --> 04:12:07,040
I'm sorry, what do you have? What does anybody listening

4045
04:12:07,120 --> 04:12:10,319
to this have? I guarantee you anyone listening to this

4046
04:12:10,479 --> 04:12:16,719
who has like political power has it locally. And that

4047
04:12:17,159 --> 04:12:21,559
just goes right back to what I was saying. I'm

4048
04:12:21,799 --> 04:12:24,079
sick and tired of hearing people, even people that I

4049
04:12:24,280 --> 04:12:27,120
like and respect, that I love, and telling me that,

4050
04:12:27,280 --> 04:12:30,559
oh no, is you just you can't see. You can't

4051
04:12:30,639 --> 04:12:33,879
just run away. Well, first of all, it's not running away.

4052
04:12:34,000 --> 04:12:36,959
Running away would be running away implies you're running and

4053
04:12:37,079 --> 04:12:40,239
doing nothing and just hiding. No, you're going and building.

4054
04:12:40,799 --> 04:12:43,040
And that's another problem is people don't want to do that.

4055
04:12:43,719 --> 04:12:47,200
I mean, people don't want to read a book. You

4056
04:12:47,360 --> 04:12:50,200
tell people that, People like, oh, where'd you get that information? Well,

4057
04:12:50,200 --> 04:12:53,319
it's in this book. Well can you know read the book? Well,

4058
04:12:53,360 --> 04:12:55,319
I don't have time to do with that. Well, I

4059
04:12:55,360 --> 04:12:58,639
guess you don't have time to you know, do what

4060
04:12:58,799 --> 04:13:01,479
needs to be done in order to survive and thrive either.

4061
04:13:02,360 --> 04:13:06,479
And I mean that's not even me being rude or

4062
04:13:06,559 --> 04:13:13,360
shitting on you. That's me saying that. I mean something

4063
04:13:13,399 --> 04:13:16,440
needs to be done about that. You're gonna have to

4064
04:13:16,479 --> 04:13:19,200
figure out a way to do that, a way to

4065
04:13:21,319 --> 04:13:27,399
free do something that allows you to survive, especially if

4066
04:13:27,440 --> 04:13:30,399
you have a family. Because you have a family and

4067
04:13:30,479 --> 04:13:34,280
you live anywhere near a city right now, Man, God

4068
04:13:34,360 --> 04:13:39,559
help you. I'm sorry, Trump's not saving the day. God

4069
04:13:39,639 --> 04:13:39,840
help you.

4070
04:13:39,840 --> 04:13:43,879
Speaker 3: If you live within one hundred miles of Atlanta, like,

4071
04:13:43,959 --> 04:13:49,959
take the most fuel a vision car you can and

4072
04:13:50,799 --> 04:13:58,760
be away more than one takeaway from Atlanta, because that's

4073
04:13:58,840 --> 04:14:01,799
your radius of like bad things will happen to you.

4074
04:14:05,040 --> 04:14:09,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've I was in Atlanta. I just went to

4075
04:14:09,239 --> 04:14:12,760
the airport last week. In order to drive through the airport.

4076
04:14:14,120 --> 04:14:18,600
Drive to get to the airport, you have to go

4077
04:14:18,760 --> 04:14:22,600
through some neighborhoods. These are neighborhoods that you're just like,

4078
04:14:23,600 --> 04:14:29,680
how can people live like this? And then you realize, Oh,

4079
04:14:31,000 --> 04:14:34,079
the only reason the neighborhoods are like this is because

4080
04:14:34,079 --> 04:14:40,159
of the people who live there. Yeah, it's not socioeconomic factors,

4081
04:14:42,559 --> 04:14:46,399
it's this is the way they want it. Well, it

4082
04:14:46,399 --> 04:14:49,440
wouldn't be that way if if it wasn't for the government. Bro,

4083
04:14:50,280 --> 04:14:52,399
we just got rid of the government, everything would be better.

4084
04:14:54,000 --> 04:14:57,159
You think you want to live in a world where

4085
04:14:57,600 --> 04:15:01,239
there isn't it even like just a little bit of

4086
04:15:01,360 --> 04:15:07,920
a threat from a state when these people exist. What

4087
04:15:07,920 --> 04:15:14,559
the fuck's wrong with you? I don't get it. You know,

4088
04:15:14,639 --> 04:15:16,760
I still have on Twitter when I got my account

4089
04:15:16,840 --> 04:15:20,399
back that I hadn't was suspended for two years. There's

4090
04:15:20,399 --> 04:15:22,959
still a lot of libertarians that follow me from way

4091
04:15:23,000 --> 04:15:31,159
back in the day. They still think this way. They

4092
04:15:31,239 --> 04:15:37,680
went through the last five years of through COVID and

4093
04:15:37,799 --> 04:15:42,440
then through the Biden presidency seeing what was happening, seeing

4094
04:15:43,000 --> 04:15:46,959
how the state was just taking out their enemies, and

4095
04:15:47,840 --> 04:15:51,559
they're like, and you know what would be the best

4096
04:15:52,639 --> 04:15:56,040
if if the state is your enemy, what's the best

4097
04:15:56,079 --> 04:16:00,319
thing you can do? Well try to mitigate your your

4098
04:16:01,719 --> 04:16:05,559
your interactions with them as possible, or maybe set up

4099
04:16:05,559 --> 04:16:08,120
a plan where you can get your own guys elected,

4100
04:16:09,479 --> 04:16:12,680
you know, because if the state's a gang you know,

4101
04:16:13,159 --> 04:16:16,760
and I think Charlie Charlie Man had had a tweet

4102
04:16:16,799 --> 04:16:19,920
a few years ago, or you said, libertarians are completely right,

4103
04:16:20,399 --> 04:16:23,000
the states a bunch of gangsters. What they don't get

4104
04:16:23,120 --> 04:16:26,000
is that you want to be those gangsters or else

4105
04:16:26,040 --> 04:16:29,280
you're at their whim and if you can't do it,

4106
04:16:29,520 --> 04:16:32,079
and if you're probably not gonna be able to do it,

4107
04:16:33,319 --> 04:16:37,680
you know, on the federal level, but local sitting right there,

4108
04:16:38,959 --> 04:16:43,040
a lot of people, a lot of people have gone

4109
04:16:43,079 --> 04:16:46,840
local and been able to control their town and get

4110
04:16:46,959 --> 04:16:50,879
things prevented from happening in their town that you know

4111
04:16:50,920 --> 04:16:53,799
that they didn't want drag Queen's story out or books

4112
04:16:53,840 --> 04:17:01,600
and libraries, YadA, YadA, whatever. There are answers out there.

4113
04:17:02,319 --> 04:17:05,799
The problem is is you're going to have to do something.

4114
04:17:07,040 --> 04:17:10,040
You're going to have to do something, and a lot

4115
04:17:10,079 --> 04:17:13,319
of people either don't want to do that for ideological

4116
04:17:13,399 --> 04:17:15,879
reasons or they don't really have the time to do that.

4117
04:17:16,319 --> 04:17:18,159
And I would say that the people who really want

4118
04:17:18,200 --> 04:17:20,079
to get out of their situation, but they don't have

4119
04:17:20,200 --> 04:17:23,200
the time to because they're working that hard for their family,

4120
04:17:24,639 --> 04:17:27,040
click up with people who are looking to do this.

4121
04:17:28,639 --> 04:17:32,239
You don't have to be a leader, you don't have

4122
04:17:32,319 --> 04:17:35,399
to put all your time into it, but fucking save

4123
04:17:35,479 --> 04:17:40,920
yourself and save your family. Because you know, just as

4124
04:17:41,040 --> 04:17:44,360
there was a you know, you read in the Old

4125
04:17:44,399 --> 04:17:47,280
Testament and then there came a pharaoh who didn't know

4126
04:17:47,360 --> 04:17:51,760
who Joseph was, Well, there's going to come a time

4127
04:17:51,879 --> 04:17:57,239
when Donald Trump or whomever you think is your hero

4128
04:17:58,000 --> 04:17:59,639
is not going to be in there, and it's going

4129
04:17:59,719 --> 04:18:03,920
to be so someone worse than then. You know, the

4130
04:18:04,040 --> 04:18:06,799
people put it this way, there's gonna be no one

4131
04:18:06,920 --> 04:18:10,200
standing in the way of the people who are have

4132
04:18:10,360 --> 04:18:14,040
been in this managerial state and or deep state or

4133
04:18:14,120 --> 04:18:18,159
whatever you want to call it. No one was holding

4134
04:18:18,200 --> 04:18:23,319
them back. For four years twenty twenty to twenty twenty four,

4135
04:18:24,000 --> 04:18:26,120
the whole time Donald Trump was a president, the first

4136
04:18:26,159 --> 04:18:31,840
time they were in charge, which was worse. It was

4137
04:18:31,879 --> 04:18:35,719
worse under Biden because somebody was there to actually like

4138
04:18:36,360 --> 04:18:40,559
stop them from coming in, attacking and coming after us.

4139
04:18:41,399 --> 04:18:44,879
As soon as Biden took power, they came after us.

4140
04:18:47,040 --> 04:18:48,799
What do you you think it's going to be better

4141
04:18:49,200 --> 04:18:49,799
the next time?

4142
04:18:52,079 --> 04:18:56,040
Speaker 3: Biden wasn't compassmentous for at least three years of his presidency.

4143
04:18:56,600 --> 04:18:57,040
Speaker 1: What do you think?

4144
04:18:57,280 --> 04:18:59,920
Speaker 3: What do you think with someone who acted when aos

4145
04:19:00,040 --> 04:19:03,520
he is the president in eight years? You think she's

4146
04:19:03,760 --> 04:19:05,879
gonna forget all the people who trolled her on Twitter?

4147
04:19:07,719 --> 04:19:10,600
Speaker 1: Yet? I reminded I told people this on my live

4148
04:19:10,680 --> 04:19:14,040
stream a few weeks ago, and people were, you know,

4149
04:19:14,079 --> 04:19:17,479
they don't want to believe me. If you think you're

4150
04:19:17,479 --> 04:19:20,760
in a non on Twitter and the state doesn't know

4151
04:19:20,799 --> 04:19:31,280
who you are, you're retarded. Now I'd be worried. You

4152
04:19:31,360 --> 04:19:35,319
know what I think you worry more about people worry

4153
04:19:35,399 --> 04:19:38,959
more about on Twitter is like some Antifa fox or

4154
04:19:39,000 --> 04:19:41,239
something like that, finding out who you are and coming

4155
04:19:41,280 --> 04:19:45,159
after you. If you're in a non the state knows

4156
04:19:45,159 --> 04:19:49,200
who you are, it frea. Israel has this freaking software

4157
04:19:49,239 --> 04:19:53,040
where they can where they can dox anybody. Basically, if

4158
04:19:53,079 --> 04:19:56,239
you're on social media and they want to target you.

4159
04:19:56,760 --> 04:20:01,120
They gotta know who you are. So what happens the

4160
04:20:01,200 --> 04:20:06,639
next time your enemy gets in charge. You can't delete

4161
04:20:06,680 --> 04:20:10,120
that account. You can delete it, but all the data

4162
04:20:10,159 --> 04:20:15,680
is still there. Well, maybe start making your plans now,

4163
04:20:17,239 --> 04:20:23,520
because Trump or somebody to hold them off is not

4164
04:20:23,600 --> 04:20:25,840
always going to be there. And there are still people

4165
04:20:25,840 --> 04:20:29,040
who are being targeted even with Trump being in office.

4166
04:20:29,520 --> 04:20:35,760
So take that for what you will. It's not a

4167
04:20:36,760 --> 04:20:39,799
people will say it's a black pill. I don't think so,

4168
04:20:40,079 --> 04:20:44,440
it's reality you have to make. You know, you have

4169
04:20:44,559 --> 04:20:47,040
to figure out the best way to get through in

4170
04:20:47,159 --> 04:20:52,680
past reality, the best way to deal with reality. I

4171
04:20:52,760 --> 04:20:56,799
have some ideas. I think I have some answers, but

4172
04:20:58,799 --> 04:21:02,760
they have to be implemented. And I mean, I think

4173
04:21:02,799 --> 04:21:06,399
I've done a fairly decent job so far. But yeah,

4174
04:21:07,319 --> 04:21:09,000
that's a lot of what the Old Glory Club is

4175
04:21:09,040 --> 04:21:12,719
about too. So you know, we're not forgetting about the

4176
04:21:13,079 --> 04:21:16,280
national politics, but it's not the most important thing at

4177
04:21:16,319 --> 04:21:16,680
this point.

4178
04:21:17,440 --> 04:21:20,799
Speaker 3: Well, I hate to keep repeating this line, but it's

4179
04:21:20,879 --> 04:21:25,159
nevertheless true. Right like AA one American spiritual contribution to

4180
04:21:25,200 --> 04:21:27,399
the world. We'll see what Leo the fourteenth is capable of.

4181
04:21:28,079 --> 04:21:34,959
But the first step is admitting you have a problem, right, Like,

4182
04:21:35,559 --> 04:21:38,200
so many people in and out of our thing want

4183
04:21:38,239 --> 04:21:40,840
to pretend that everything is okay or that things aren't

4184
04:21:40,879 --> 04:21:42,840
as bad as they are. Look, our roads look like

4185
04:21:42,920 --> 04:21:45,920
the dark side of the moon. I was recently on

4186
04:21:46,000 --> 04:21:50,920
a major highway outside of a major city, and you

4187
04:21:50,959 --> 04:21:53,399
would have thought I was on like an a dirt

4188
04:21:53,639 --> 04:21:57,239
road in like North Mississippi, with how full of potholes

4189
04:21:57,280 --> 04:22:04,879
this thing was. And until you accept that, like certain

4190
04:22:04,959 --> 04:22:08,079
things are just not gonna function in the future, you're

4191
04:22:08,120 --> 04:22:11,719
gonna you know, and putting your money or your time

4192
04:22:11,840 --> 04:22:15,200
or your energy into anything that feeds the present system

4193
04:22:15,399 --> 04:22:19,920
is just a waste of time. You know, not only

4194
04:22:20,040 --> 04:22:24,079
is there the what thirty trillion dollars in debt? How

4195
04:22:24,120 --> 04:22:27,440
many trillion, hundreds of trillions in unfunded liabilities are there?

4196
04:22:30,600 --> 04:22:33,840
How many how many major banks are actually insolvent when

4197
04:22:33,840 --> 04:22:39,079
you take a real look at their books, right, Nina Jenko,

4198
04:22:39,120 --> 04:22:43,000
which the you know, the crazy uh theater kid lady

4199
04:22:43,000 --> 04:22:44,600
who was going to be in charge of censorship for

4200
04:22:44,639 --> 04:22:46,639
the Internet, Stormy, You made this great point on your

4201
04:22:46,799 --> 04:22:50,920
on your recent show, Pete. She's not out of power.

4202
04:22:51,079 --> 04:22:54,239
She just moved locations. I think she's working for the

4203
04:22:54,319 --> 04:23:01,159
EU now, right, yeah, right, so yeah, I'm sure there

4204
04:23:01,280 --> 04:23:04,159
was like deputy assistant under Secretaries of of you know,

4205
04:23:04,520 --> 04:23:08,559
underwater basket weaving that got fired from the Trump administration.

4206
04:23:09,879 --> 04:23:11,639
You think they didn't find a job at the UN

4207
04:23:12,000 --> 04:23:18,760
or some NGO the next week the Sorrows NGO. Of

4208
04:23:18,840 --> 04:23:23,639
course they did. And you know, no one on the

4209
04:23:23,760 --> 04:23:29,680
right wants to put their money. They want to make money, right,

4210
04:23:29,840 --> 04:23:31,600
he one must wants to make money. The reason he,

4211
04:23:32,559 --> 04:23:34,600
you know, joined the Trump administration as much as he

4212
04:23:34,680 --> 04:23:36,760
did is he realized that like being a chubby nerd

4213
04:23:37,159 --> 04:23:39,200
with hundreds of billions of dollars or billions of dollars

4214
04:23:39,559 --> 04:23:42,879
in a world where you know, electricity is intermittent is

4215
04:23:42,920 --> 04:23:44,440
only a great way to like have people beat you

4216
04:23:44,559 --> 04:23:46,959
up and get eaten. And so he likes the world

4217
04:23:47,000 --> 04:23:53,000
where the electricity runs and and you know, civilization hangs

4218
04:23:53,040 --> 04:23:55,399
on because then he gets to be a rich dude

4219
04:23:55,440 --> 04:23:57,760
with lots of cool stuff. But like when they when

4220
04:23:57,760 --> 04:24:01,760
there's no electricity, he's from South Africa, when there's no electricity.

4221
04:24:01,399 --> 04:24:02,399
Speaker 1: His tesla is useless.

4222
04:24:04,120 --> 04:24:09,399
Speaker 3: So he understands the stakes at least, but he's still

4223
04:24:09,399 --> 04:24:13,000
trying to make money. You know, Tucker Carlston's part of

4224
04:24:13,040 --> 04:24:17,920
the Swanson TV Dinner family fortune he has, he has

4225
04:24:18,000 --> 04:24:32,479
real money. Has he done anything. There's no one in

4226
04:24:32,639 --> 04:24:39,600
American on the American right wants to actually win. They

4227
04:24:39,680 --> 04:24:41,680
want to perpetuate the system that has allowed them to

4228
04:24:41,719 --> 04:24:48,479
be successful. And they don't understand that that that that system,

4229
04:24:48,520 --> 04:24:51,600
by its very nature will eventually eat them and their

4230
04:24:51,680 --> 04:24:56,879
kids and everything else that matters. So you can't depend

4231
04:24:56,920 --> 04:25:02,559
on them, and you gotta build outside of it. Right

4232
04:25:03,000 --> 04:25:05,040
I like Victor Orbon quite a bit. I think he's

4233
04:25:05,079 --> 04:25:09,239
probably one of the best leaders in the world right now.

4234
04:25:12,120 --> 04:25:18,520
But Rod Dreyer, the traitor's scumbag American Conservative, was given

4235
04:25:18,559 --> 04:25:21,319
a job at the Danube Institute and given a spot

4236
04:25:21,639 --> 04:25:28,159
in his country by Victor Orbon. You know, Victor Orben

4237
04:25:28,200 --> 04:25:32,840
should know better. He should know that rodreris scum. He

4238
04:25:32,840 --> 04:25:37,000
should know that Rodrere is a coward and untrustworthy, but

4239
04:25:37,159 --> 04:25:41,760
he doesn't because he's a conservative. And that's the problem.

4240
04:25:41,840 --> 04:25:44,559
It's like until like somebody like Thomas is given a

4241
04:25:44,680 --> 04:25:47,440
job at a think tank. You can't trust think tanks

4242
04:25:51,360 --> 04:25:54,600
because they want maintain the system that has put them

4243
04:25:54,600 --> 04:25:57,520
in a position where they have a cool office in

4244
04:25:57,639 --> 04:26:01,319
downtown d Z, a couple of blocks in the capital.

4245
04:26:02,840 --> 04:26:07,440
You know, Kato has a really nice building in Washington, DC.

4246
04:26:08,639 --> 04:26:13,239
It's huge, takes up, like have a city block. Why

4247
04:26:13,280 --> 04:26:20,719
would Kato tell the truth about anything? Yeah, that's one

4248
04:26:20,760 --> 04:26:23,799
of the biggest One of the biggest issues that we

4249
04:26:24,360 --> 04:26:30,959
we have is is that the capture when people who

4250
04:26:31,079 --> 04:26:33,920
could you know, formerly or could do a great job

4251
04:26:34,040 --> 04:26:37,600
of exposing the things that needs to be exposed, they

4252
04:26:38,680 --> 04:26:42,799
start getting a paycheck, they start having, you know, more

4253
04:26:42,879 --> 04:26:47,280
money than they've ever had possibly, and they're just they

4254
04:26:47,360 --> 04:26:48,959
have to do, you know, And then you have to

4255
04:26:49,000 --> 04:26:52,719
take into account the people who, you know, run those

4256
04:26:55,040 --> 04:27:03,120
Glenn Lowry was a fellow at the Manhattan Institute, and

4257
04:27:03,719 --> 04:27:06,600
he was he got a two paragraph email saying that

4258
04:27:06,719 --> 04:27:09,840
he no longer worked at they at the Manhattan Institute

4259
04:27:10,559 --> 04:27:14,920
and why because he said that what was happening in

4260
04:27:15,079 --> 04:27:20,040
Gaza was a crime. It was was a war crime,

4261
04:27:20,479 --> 04:27:25,000
was genocide. Who runs that? Who runs the Manhattan Institute?

4262
04:27:25,120 --> 04:27:28,639
Who finds that Manhattan Institude? Paul Sanger, who's on the board,

4263
04:27:28,879 --> 04:27:35,000
Bill Crystal, I mean, and the Manhattan Institute is one

4264
04:27:35,000 --> 04:27:36,719
of the better ones out there, because the ore the

4265
04:27:36,760 --> 04:27:39,440
ones who are higher, Heather McDonald, and they will admit that,

4266
04:27:39,559 --> 04:27:45,360
you know, like sometimes Negroes are just dumb. That's not

4267
04:27:45,959 --> 04:27:48,479
like they're edgy for saying that this is not this

4268
04:27:48,680 --> 04:27:49,079
is not the.

4269
04:27:50,120 --> 04:27:51,600
Speaker 1: Reason Foundation or.

4270
04:27:53,159 --> 04:27:55,600
Speaker 3: Heritage or AEI or anything like that, this is the

4271
04:27:55,639 --> 04:27:56,520
Manhattan Institute.

4272
04:27:56,520 --> 04:27:57,000
Speaker 1: They're edgy.

4273
04:27:57,079 --> 04:27:59,959
Speaker 3: They they they'll talk to and Culter and Heathery McDon

4274
04:28:00,000 --> 04:28:09,040
I don't know, they'll publish Life at the Bottom. I

4275
04:28:09,079 --> 04:28:12,680
don't remember. No, it was a British guy who was

4276
04:28:12,719 --> 04:28:18,799
a psychologist who anyway, like they're they're among the better

4277
04:28:18,920 --> 04:28:24,000
establishment think tanks in America. But you know, sovereign is

4278
04:28:24,000 --> 04:28:27,639
he who decides the exception, right, And Glenna Glen Lowry

4279
04:28:29,360 --> 04:28:31,719
walked up to the sovereign and said, nah fam, And

4280
04:28:31,799 --> 04:28:33,840
then he found out who was in charge of real quick.

4281
04:28:36,040 --> 04:28:42,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I remember Chris Ruffo Manhattan Institute. He

4282
04:28:43,079 --> 04:28:47,920
wrote an article about Charloi, Pennsylvania, and in that article

4283
04:28:48,799 --> 04:28:55,040
he mentioned that the group that was showing up that

4284
04:28:55,239 --> 04:28:58,760
helped all those Haitians get in there to take over

4285
04:28:58,840 --> 04:29:05,559
the town basically was part of Jewish Family Services. And

4286
04:29:05,840 --> 04:29:08,520
when that article came out. I was kind of shocked.

4287
04:29:09,680 --> 04:29:13,360
I was like, this is weird. But then what happened

4288
04:29:13,600 --> 04:29:18,639
a week later, so everything that never happened before. Chris

4289
04:29:18,799 --> 04:29:20,959
Ruffau went on Twitter and started talking about how much

4290
04:29:20,959 --> 04:29:27,680
of a problem anti Semitism was on the right. Yeah,

4291
04:29:27,799 --> 04:29:32,000
we need our own think tanks, you know, need our

4292
04:29:32,079 --> 04:29:39,879
own everything, because if not, I mean, what happens you

4293
04:29:40,000 --> 04:29:51,360
get you Inevitably people are going to be in the

4294
04:29:51,479 --> 04:29:55,159
hierarchical structure. They're going to be under somebody who is

4295
04:29:55,360 --> 04:29:58,600
going to tell them, Well, you can't say that you

4296
04:29:58,840 --> 04:30:03,959
can't tell the truth. You can't You're not allowed to

4297
04:30:04,079 --> 04:30:10,719
mention higas, You're not allowed to mention jfs. You can't

4298
04:30:10,799 --> 04:30:20,159
say those things, and that just basically you're Yeah, what

4299
04:30:20,559 --> 04:30:25,799
happens to your credibility after that? I choose to censor

4300
04:30:25,959 --> 04:30:31,040
myself sometimes, but I do it to myself, and I

4301
04:30:31,159 --> 04:30:34,559
do it for for what I think are strategic reasons.

4302
04:30:34,680 --> 04:30:37,520
I could be wrong, but I do it out of

4303
04:30:37,600 --> 04:30:40,520
strategy because I think I'm I think I'm playing a game.

4304
04:30:41,440 --> 04:30:45,319
I think I think this goes way beyond waking some

4305
04:30:45,520 --> 04:30:52,319
people up on Twitter and some Sometimes there are things

4306
04:30:52,319 --> 04:30:56,319
that I shouldn't say maybe I should just say everything,

4307
04:30:56,399 --> 04:30:58,879
but it's what I think, it's how I but no

4308
04:30:59,000 --> 04:31:02,559
one's telling me to do that. I'm doing it myself.

4309
04:31:03,079 --> 04:31:06,239
I'm doing it myself, and I'm doing it for a reason.

4310
04:31:07,280 --> 04:31:10,879
I'm not doing it because of a paycheck, and I'm

4311
04:31:11,000 --> 04:31:16,120
not doing it because someone's telling me not to. People

4312
04:31:16,239 --> 04:31:21,440
want to believe that they have quote unquote right wing based,

4313
04:31:21,600 --> 04:31:25,079
right wing leadership out there who are willing to willing

4314
04:31:25,200 --> 04:31:28,280
to talk about how men are really men and women

4315
04:31:28,440 --> 04:31:33,079
or women, and they may even have some roles. Yeah,

4316
04:31:33,120 --> 04:31:35,440
there are roles. There are roles that only men should

4317
04:31:35,440 --> 04:31:40,440
have and only women should have. So based, but they're

4318
04:31:40,520 --> 04:31:46,159
not willing to talk about how society even got to

4319
04:31:46,280 --> 04:31:50,319
the point where you had to have that conversation where

4320
04:31:50,399 --> 04:31:53,840
you have to say something so obvious, and who might

4321
04:31:53,920 --> 04:31:58,040
be responsible for it and where that comes from, and

4322
04:31:58,159 --> 04:32:01,360
the fact that there's a hit history of it. It

4323
04:32:01,440 --> 04:32:05,360
doesn't go back fifty years, but it goes back centuries.

4324
04:32:09,399 --> 04:32:12,840
I don't know. I don't know. I don't think. I

4325
04:32:12,920 --> 04:32:15,159
don't think saying these things is brave. I think saying

4326
04:32:15,200 --> 04:32:17,319
these things is just, you know, you want to speak

4327
04:32:17,360 --> 04:32:20,239
the truth and you want people to know and you know,

4328
04:32:20,360 --> 04:32:23,360
you want people to be able to If enough people

4329
04:32:23,479 --> 04:32:25,639
have the truth and know exactly how the game is

4330
04:32:25,719 --> 04:32:28,200
being played and what they're up against, then they can

4331
04:32:28,280 --> 04:32:30,840
make their own decisions about the best way of going forward.

4332
04:32:34,079 --> 04:32:36,280
And if they want help with that, you know they

4333
04:32:36,639 --> 04:32:37,239
all they have to do.

4334
04:32:37,360 --> 04:32:42,239
Speaker 3: Is ask, well that the most important thing that you

4335
04:32:42,319 --> 04:32:48,920
can do for yourself right now, right isn't get another

4336
04:32:49,000 --> 04:32:49,760
argument on Twitter.

4337
04:32:50,879 --> 04:32:51,559
Speaker 1: It isn't.

4338
04:32:53,239 --> 04:32:54,959
Speaker 3: Going to prove how based you are in group chat.

4339
04:32:57,239 --> 04:33:02,360
It's position yourself to be better off no matter what.

4340
04:33:02,600 --> 04:33:07,799
Like if Donald Trump, like hypothetically right, becomes an article

4341
04:33:08,159 --> 04:33:11,279
to president tomorrow and just starts deporting tens of thousands

4342
04:33:11,319 --> 04:33:14,040
of people per day, gets the cords to order.

4343
04:33:14,639 --> 04:33:17,040
Speaker 1: Ends you know, DEI and.

4344
04:33:18,759 --> 04:33:22,439
Speaker 3: Affirmative action and does repeals Griggs v Power whatever you know,

4345
04:33:22,560 --> 04:33:25,279
pie in the sky thing that you want to say

4346
04:33:25,319 --> 04:33:26,880
he was doing, and grew upset with him because he

4347
04:33:26,880 --> 04:33:33,479
hasn't done that thing. Right, Well, okay, how'd you take

4348
04:33:33,479 --> 04:33:34,080
advantage of it?

4349
04:33:37,240 --> 04:33:37,799
Speaker 1: What would you do?

4350
04:33:39,080 --> 04:33:41,000
Speaker 3: Vald Trump did everything you wanted, what would you do

4351
04:33:41,119 --> 04:33:48,240
to take advantage of it? Contrastically, if Kamala Harris was

4352
04:33:48,360 --> 04:33:51,720
in president right now and was like literally hunting down

4353
04:33:51,799 --> 04:33:56,799
people for mean tweets, which, let's be honest, she would be.

4354
04:33:59,159 --> 04:33:59,720
Speaker 1: What would you do?

4355
04:34:02,720 --> 04:34:05,479
Speaker 3: I think a lot of those things would be the same.

4356
04:34:07,439 --> 04:34:11,360
You get out of debt, you'd you know, get some skills,

4357
04:34:11,439 --> 04:34:14,000
you you know, whatever it is that you're doing, you'd

4358
04:34:14,040 --> 04:34:20,959
find some bros. You'd work out. I mean, whatever it

4359
04:34:21,040 --> 04:34:27,439
is that you're doing that's good, do that, you know,

4360
04:34:28,240 --> 04:34:35,599
be outcome independent of who's in charge in Washington, because

4361
04:34:35,959 --> 04:34:41,880
right now, anywhere in America, if ten guys show up

4362
04:34:41,919 --> 04:34:44,720
to a school a school board meeting and complain about

4363
04:34:44,720 --> 04:34:48,439
the same thing. If you have ten bros, so eleven

4364
04:34:48,520 --> 04:34:51,360
of you walk into the school board meeting, everyone's dressed

4365
04:34:51,400 --> 04:34:54,200
this dressed, you know, respectably but not like obviously wearing

4366
04:34:54,279 --> 04:34:58,479
a uniform. You sit in a bunch of different spots,

4367
04:34:58,520 --> 04:35:01,319
so you don't all sitting together, and you complain about

4368
04:35:01,319 --> 04:35:04,400
the same thing. The people who are in the school

4369
04:35:04,439 --> 04:35:07,840
board are going to feel like that's one hundred people

4370
04:35:08,840 --> 04:35:11,400
or a thousand people that are upset about that particular thing.

4371
04:35:11,439 --> 04:35:13,680
It might just be you and your ten bros that

4372
04:35:13,759 --> 04:35:17,119
are upset about that one thing, but they're gonna think

4373
04:35:17,159 --> 04:35:21,599
that thousands of people are mad about this because ten

4374
04:35:21,639 --> 04:35:26,240
people bother to show up and complain. Get to the

4375
04:35:26,279 --> 04:35:28,040
point where you have ten bros that will show up

4376
04:35:28,080 --> 04:35:30,959
to the you know, school board meeting on Thursday night

4377
04:35:31,119 --> 04:35:37,240
at six o'clock, and then you can actually accomplish some stuff.

4378
04:35:42,000 --> 04:35:44,200
You know, put an edition in your house. Having ten

4379
04:35:44,279 --> 04:35:46,759
bros show up there with framing hammers, you can knock

4380
04:35:46,799 --> 04:35:55,000
that bad boy out in a day. Buy a couple

4381
04:35:55,000 --> 04:35:58,080
of pizzas, get a couple of beers, a couple six

4382
04:35:58,119 --> 04:36:01,119
ers of beer. Have brush up and help you out.

4383
04:36:03,000 --> 04:36:08,439
I got that the framing on that edition one Saturday.

4384
04:36:10,880 --> 04:36:11,119
Speaker 1: Done.

4385
04:36:13,319 --> 04:36:16,159
Speaker 3: Get in a position where the regime can't hurt you,

4386
04:36:20,279 --> 04:36:21,959
and if it tries, you have friends that will help

4387
04:36:22,000 --> 04:36:22,240
you out.

4388
04:36:24,720 --> 04:36:27,040
Speaker 1: Anybody, and I got comments.

4389
04:36:29,439 --> 04:36:35,880
Speaker 6: I personally think that just real quick, there needs to

4390
04:36:36,080 --> 04:36:41,799
just obviously be a like one thousand flowers like Bloom

4391
04:36:41,840 --> 04:36:44,360
type of approach where people are just gonna going to

4392
04:36:44,520 --> 04:36:44,959
have to.

4393
04:36:46,720 --> 04:36:48,400
Speaker 1: Rely on their strengths and.

4394
04:36:49,919 --> 04:36:54,240
Speaker 6: Some people will absolutely dominate with regards to political organization

4395
04:36:54,439 --> 04:36:58,400
at the local level, and then some people may are

4396
04:36:59,040 --> 04:37:01,279
unfortunately going to have to be stuck in cities. But

4397
04:37:01,520 --> 04:37:05,119
like get skills, make money, and then use that those

4398
04:37:05,200 --> 04:37:09,159
resources to buy land and build networks. But the one

4399
04:37:09,200 --> 04:37:12,000
thing that people have to avoid is becoming another like

4400
04:37:12,119 --> 04:37:18,439
atomized individual that whose whole life is marked by mindless consumerism.

4401
04:37:18,759 --> 04:37:22,799
People need to break the cycle of atomization and dera

4402
04:37:23,840 --> 04:37:28,520
nation and start building communities, networking with people, because these

4403
04:37:28,560 --> 04:37:31,360
are the most valuable assets you can have in this

4404
04:37:32,439 --> 04:37:35,880
society marked by just like nihilism and just loneliness. So

4405
04:37:36,200 --> 04:37:40,360
people need to just deal work with the hand that's

4406
04:37:40,400 --> 04:37:42,959
been dealt with to them and just go from there.

4407
04:37:43,200 --> 04:37:46,240
This is going to be a reconquista along slog, but

4408
04:37:47,200 --> 04:37:49,360
you have to have like sight of the bigger picture.

4409
04:37:53,279 --> 04:37:57,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would I co sign everything you just said, Jose. Absolutely,

4410
04:37:58,119 --> 04:38:00,880
it's a long slog, it's a reconquista, as we said earlier.

4411
04:38:02,119 --> 04:38:04,520
And I would also add to kind of tie up

4412
04:38:04,520 --> 04:38:06,599
a few of the threads that all of us have mentioned,

4413
04:38:07,520 --> 04:38:11,439
even in de talking about ten bros just get together

4414
04:38:11,560 --> 04:38:13,759
for this. Look what you can accomplish in just a day.

4415
04:38:14,040 --> 04:38:15,799
I mean I remember when I did that. I had

4416
04:38:15,840 --> 04:38:19,840
a whole deck done in a Saturday afternoon. But I mean,

4417
04:38:19,919 --> 04:38:22,000
even if you don't want to take that far, if

4418
04:38:22,040 --> 04:38:23,720
you don't want to look that far ahead or take

4419
04:38:23,840 --> 04:38:30,159
that large an effort upon yourself. Start small. That book

4420
04:38:30,240 --> 04:38:34,080
that Pete said, read that, go to the gym. When

4421
04:38:34,200 --> 04:38:36,159
was the last time you went to the gym? Hell,

4422
04:38:36,200 --> 04:38:39,400
when was the last time you walked around a park? Okay,

4423
04:38:39,439 --> 04:38:41,119
when was the last time you threw a punch? When

4424
04:38:41,200 --> 04:38:44,000
was the last time you hit a bag, a speed bag,

4425
04:38:44,080 --> 04:38:48,880
a heavy bag, anything? Whereas Jose said, stop being adamized.

4426
04:38:48,919 --> 04:38:51,520
When's the last time you called a friend instead of

4427
04:38:51,560 --> 04:38:55,279
a friend calling you. I'm not saying you have to

4428
04:38:55,400 --> 04:38:57,400
conquer the whole world. I'm not saying you have to

4429
04:38:57,520 --> 04:39:02,479
retake Portland. Just stop being adamized and start moving towards

4430
04:39:03,479 --> 04:39:09,000
something beyond your cell phone screen, something beyond your internet connection.

4431
04:39:09,840 --> 04:39:11,959
You don't have to you don't have to conquer the world.

4432
04:39:12,200 --> 04:39:15,400
Just take a few steps in the right direction. They

4433
04:39:15,479 --> 04:39:18,520
can be small. When I to go back to a

4434
04:39:18,560 --> 04:39:21,159
point you raised earlier, Pete, when we were fortunate enough

4435
04:39:21,240 --> 04:39:24,240
to get Trump in in twenty sixteen, what did I do?

4436
04:39:24,919 --> 04:39:29,840
Got together some friends and bought land, bought bullets, bought firearms,

4437
04:39:30,520 --> 04:39:31,799
started going to the gym again.

4438
04:39:31,919 --> 04:39:32,159
Speaker 1: Hard.

4439
04:39:32,880 --> 04:39:35,520
Speaker 2: Now I'm never going to be twenty two again. Obviously,

4440
04:39:35,639 --> 04:39:39,000
that's just not going to happen. It's impossible, But you

4441
04:39:39,080 --> 04:39:41,119
know what I could not. I don't have to be

4442
04:39:41,720 --> 04:39:45,880
I don't have to be a fat, slob, fifty something

4443
04:39:46,000 --> 04:39:48,400
year old guy that doesn't know what the inside of

4444
04:39:48,400 --> 04:39:51,080
a gym looks like, or hasn't lifted a weight in

4445
04:39:51,200 --> 04:39:54,520
twenty years. I can control that. I can't roll back

4446
04:39:54,560 --> 04:39:55,880
the clock, but I can control that.

4447
04:39:56,680 --> 04:39:57,159
Speaker 1: What did I do?

4448
04:39:57,360 --> 04:39:59,479
Speaker 2: I made use of the time. Did I make mistakes?

4449
04:39:59,520 --> 04:40:01,759
Sure I did. Pete and I were just talking. I

4450
04:40:01,840 --> 04:40:05,959
didn't pick the best ground to try and grow things on. Okay,

4451
04:40:06,279 --> 04:40:10,479
all right, I faltered, but I still moved in a direction.

4452
04:40:11,319 --> 04:40:13,360
And what I have discovered over the course of my

4453
04:40:13,520 --> 04:40:18,040
life is it's a lot easier to change direction than

4454
04:40:18,080 --> 04:40:21,759
it is to gain momentum than it is to start moving.

4455
04:40:22,720 --> 04:40:26,520
So just start moving and then change directions as necessary.

4456
04:40:27,479 --> 04:40:28,840
That's my piece on that, gentleman.

4457
04:40:30,240 --> 04:40:32,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I realized that a lot of people tune into

4458
04:40:33,000 --> 04:40:36,840
these episodes for to hear us rag on.

4459
04:40:38,880 --> 04:40:38,919
Speaker 6: This.

4460
04:40:39,319 --> 04:40:47,400
Speaker 1: You know, this regime, the controllers of the regime, you know, minorities,

4461
04:40:47,720 --> 04:40:53,119
YadA YadA, all crime whatever. Sorry, I'm gonna need an

4462
04:40:53,119 --> 04:40:55,279
episode every once in a while. We're gonna have to

4463
04:40:55,400 --> 04:40:59,000
start looking in the mirror. I know people don't want

4464
04:40:59,040 --> 04:41:04,000
to hear that. I know it hurts when when I'm confronted,

4465
04:41:04,680 --> 04:41:07,439
when I have someone confront me about something, you know,

4466
04:41:07,799 --> 04:41:10,720
probably normally my wife, I don't want to hear it.

4467
04:41:11,520 --> 04:41:17,119
But yeah, self examination is it's really important, and it's

4468
04:41:17,159 --> 04:41:19,599
what you know, It's what mature people do, and it's

4469
04:41:19,680 --> 04:41:27,799
what people who responsibility is something is how do you

4470
04:41:27,840 --> 04:41:30,959
even start to call yourself response? Response right wing? If

4471
04:41:31,200 --> 04:41:34,040
if if you're not a responsible human to yourself and

4472
04:41:34,119 --> 04:41:38,200
to your family, it just that doesn't make any sense. So,

4473
04:41:38,880 --> 04:41:45,919
you know, I apologize for for making this about if

4474
04:41:45,959 --> 04:41:47,919
you're listening to this and I made it about you,

4475
04:41:48,520 --> 04:41:52,319
or you think I'm talking to you, my apologies, but

4476
04:41:52,799 --> 04:41:54,439
I need to hear it every once in a while,

4477
04:41:54,599 --> 04:41:58,520
and so does everybody, and I hope it. I hope

4478
04:41:58,520 --> 04:42:01,720
a lot of it made sense, because you know, I've

4479
04:42:02,240 --> 04:42:05,400
I've a sentence here to ramble and stumble over my words.

4480
04:42:05,439 --> 04:42:08,479
Sometimes I understand that I understand that I you know,

4481
04:42:08,639 --> 04:42:13,560
I understand that I stutter. It's funny and people point

4482
04:42:13,599 --> 04:42:16,439
that out and they think that I don't know. Yeah,

4483
04:42:16,759 --> 04:42:19,119
I have a tendency to do that. It's okay, you're

4484
04:42:19,159 --> 04:42:27,560
my favorite stuttering, retried pete stumpering prick. I think you

4485
04:42:27,639 --> 04:42:30,200
make a very good point. And the the.

4486
04:42:31,919 --> 04:42:35,240
Speaker 3: Point isn't that, you know, oh woe is me, We're

4487
04:42:35,240 --> 04:42:37,599
all going to lose and everything's going to go down

4488
04:42:37,680 --> 04:42:42,080
and you know, fire and brimstone. With all that in mind, right,

4489
04:42:42,240 --> 04:42:46,000
let the system rate against the judicial system being a joke,

4490
04:42:46,119 --> 04:42:49,240
the deep state, whatever thing you took away from this evening,

4491
04:42:53,360 --> 04:42:57,000
let that be a lesson to you that whatever comes

4492
04:42:57,080 --> 04:42:58,639
next can't let this happen again.

4493
04:43:01,880 --> 04:43:02,040
Speaker 1: Right.

4494
04:43:03,959 --> 04:43:08,360
Speaker 3: If Donald Trump manages to fix everything, great, but also remember,

4495
04:43:08,560 --> 04:43:10,840
like there was this one judge in like you know,

4496
04:43:11,159 --> 04:43:14,119
Federal District Court that like totally destroyed, like nearly destroyed

4497
04:43:14,119 --> 04:43:17,599
the Trump presidency. You know, the North Carolina senator who

4498
04:43:17,599 --> 04:43:20,840
should know better, right, didn't try to fix it?

4499
04:43:21,759 --> 04:43:22,040
Speaker 1: Why not?

4500
04:43:22,520 --> 04:43:28,279
Speaker 3: Okay, Well that's the you know, to the extent that

4501
04:43:28,400 --> 04:43:32,240
options are are fixable or things are fixable, right, use

4502
04:43:32,319 --> 04:43:37,080
this conversation to give you ideas about how to fix things,

4503
04:43:37,400 --> 04:43:39,599
and to the extent that things aren't fixable, use this

4504
04:43:39,680 --> 04:43:43,279
conversation to you know, like Charles said, you know, it's

4505
04:43:43,439 --> 04:43:46,799
much easier to change direction than build momentum. So take

4506
04:43:46,840 --> 04:43:50,080
the whatever momentum you've got and channel in a in

4507
04:43:50,159 --> 04:43:53,639
a productive direction. If if you know the politics side

4508
04:43:53,720 --> 04:43:56,599
isn't working, you know, go to the community building side

4509
04:43:56,599 --> 04:44:01,439
of things. Build your business, save some money, do whatever

4510
04:44:01,439 --> 04:44:04,279
it is that you need to do that you know,

4511
04:44:04,479 --> 04:44:10,119
keeps that momentum up. Anyone else gots some closing comments,

4512
04:44:10,200 --> 04:44:14,319
will keep this one at a decent length.

4513
04:44:15,799 --> 04:44:17,799
Speaker 1: We have it. We have a tendency to make everyone

4514
04:44:17,799 --> 04:44:20,720
in the most good two hours. So I say you

4515
04:44:20,720 --> 04:44:22,080
got any closing anything to say.

4516
04:44:24,319 --> 04:44:29,799
Speaker 6: I just want to reiterate the importance of people just

4517
04:44:30,080 --> 04:44:34,479
starting to build networks in whichever way possible. It's not

4518
04:44:34,560 --> 04:44:37,919
gonna be a uniform strategy. And I also would advise

4519
04:44:38,040 --> 04:44:41,759
them to just look at history, to read up on

4520
04:44:43,200 --> 04:44:48,040
not just historical political movements, but also within kind of

4521
04:44:48,119 --> 04:44:50,919
like the nationalists right, not SOALC movements and all that,

4522
04:44:51,080 --> 04:44:54,799
to just ensure that they're not repeating mistakes of the past.

4523
04:44:54,880 --> 04:44:57,959
And then also seeing like if they can find moderate

4524
04:44:58,080 --> 04:45:02,520
successes and try to implement them or replicate them or

4525
04:45:02,840 --> 04:45:06,880
even update them to the current context. I think that's

4526
04:45:07,000 --> 04:45:09,919
very important. That's like the more most productive work you

4527
04:45:09,959 --> 04:45:14,360
could do. And contribute whichever way you can. You don't

4528
04:45:14,400 --> 04:45:16,319
have to be an activist. You could be like a donor,

4529
04:45:16,439 --> 04:45:19,400
you could be somebody that provides infrastructure. But the very

4530
04:45:19,439 --> 04:45:23,720
important thing is that people start connecting and building these

4531
04:45:23,759 --> 04:45:27,000
networks because that's what ultimately wins, because politics is at

4532
04:45:27,000 --> 04:45:30,799
the end of the day, about interconnected human relations.

4533
04:45:33,799 --> 04:45:36,959
Speaker 1: But what I wanted to add to what Jose was

4534
04:45:37,040 --> 04:45:41,400
just talking about, where multiple things. When it comes to

4535
04:45:41,439 --> 04:45:43,599
the Old Glory Club there if you start a chapter,

4536
04:45:43,799 --> 04:45:46,000
there are some rules that you have to follow, but

4537
04:45:46,639 --> 04:45:51,840
you can you know, chapters in different areas. Different areas

4538
04:45:51,880 --> 04:45:54,720
are having different issues. That's the way you deal with it.

4539
04:45:55,240 --> 04:45:57,159
You figure out what you need. Will help you all

4540
04:45:57,200 --> 04:46:00,720
you can if you ask. But you know, we have

4541
04:46:00,959 --> 04:46:05,240
chapters right now that are just Alabama chapter is off

4542
04:46:05,319 --> 04:46:10,200
on its own. We're doing our own thing and it's fantastic,

4543
04:46:10,720 --> 04:46:12,880
And I know the Montana chapter is the same way.

4544
04:46:13,319 --> 04:46:16,479
These guys are just killing it doing two different two

4545
04:46:16,560 --> 04:46:20,599
totally different things, but just concentrating on what's most important

4546
04:46:20,840 --> 04:46:24,240
in their area because that's what you can control at

4547
04:46:24,279 --> 04:46:27,639
this point, and this what's most important because that's where

4548
04:46:27,680 --> 04:46:31,200
you live. Yeah, the overwhelming majority of people you know,

4549
04:46:31,439 --> 04:46:34,119
nine more than ninety nine percent of people, closer to

4550
04:46:34,159 --> 04:46:36,959
one hundred percent of people are never going to have

4551
04:46:38,439 --> 04:46:44,119
an interaction with a federal agent. You have to concentrate

4552
04:46:44,240 --> 04:46:47,439
on your local area. That's what's most important.

4553
04:46:47,599 --> 04:46:50,520
Speaker 2: So I just want to say a couple of things

4554
04:46:50,680 --> 04:46:53,479
very briefly, and then I'll let the say his piece.

4555
04:46:54,599 --> 04:46:57,959
But briefly. I recall calling you, actually, Pete, when I

4556
04:46:58,080 --> 04:47:00,319
was leaving the doctor's office one day, because you had

4557
04:47:00,360 --> 04:47:02,599
said something at the end of the program. And forgive

4558
04:47:02,639 --> 04:47:06,279
me if I get it wrong slightly or if I

4559
04:47:06,360 --> 04:47:08,880
accidentally put words in your mouth, but I recall I

4560
04:47:09,040 --> 04:47:11,000
contacted you and I said, hey, Pete, I just want

4561
04:47:11,040 --> 04:47:13,279
to say on the side that I respect you a

4562
04:47:13,319 --> 04:47:17,439
great deal as a fighter for all you do, and

4563
04:47:17,599 --> 04:47:20,520
that I really felt a kinship with you. And you

4564
04:47:20,560 --> 04:47:23,799
may recall this voice message that I sent you, and

4565
04:47:24,000 --> 04:47:26,919
I said that you do this basically to cut to

4566
04:47:26,959 --> 04:47:29,680
the chase out of love, and I said, I feel

4567
04:47:29,759 --> 04:47:33,520
very much the same way, and I said that that's

4568
04:47:33,639 --> 04:47:36,040
one of the reasons that I really appreciate you. You

4569
04:47:36,240 --> 04:47:38,599
having me on and I was happy to learn that

4570
04:47:38,680 --> 04:47:41,560
we had that one thing in common. I think we

4571
04:47:41,639 --> 04:47:43,400
have other things in common, but I think that's the

4572
04:47:43,479 --> 04:47:46,799
most important thing. So that being said, that being my

4573
04:47:46,959 --> 04:47:50,200
segue to my point here, I'm going to put words

4574
04:47:50,200 --> 04:47:52,240
in your mouth, and I forgive me if they're wrong.

4575
04:47:52,439 --> 04:47:55,680
But gentlemen, if you're still listening to me, I would

4576
04:47:55,720 --> 04:47:59,080
say this, Nothing Pete said today was a black pill.

4577
04:48:00,000 --> 04:48:02,319
But you have to understand that is is. That's just

4578
04:48:02,479 --> 04:48:06,639
cold water on your face. He's not trying to demoralize you.

4579
04:48:07,240 --> 04:48:09,240
He's trying to get you to wake up a little bit,

4580
04:48:09,560 --> 04:48:13,080
get you to see that there are some issues. It's

4581
04:48:13,240 --> 04:48:16,959
not Nobody is kicking you when you're down. Nobody is saying,

4582
04:48:17,080 --> 04:48:19,520
you know, you just got a man up, none of

4583
04:48:19,599 --> 04:48:22,080
that nonsense. We're just saying that you have to see

4584
04:48:22,119 --> 04:48:24,479
the world for what it is. We're saying that you

4585
04:48:24,560 --> 04:48:27,040
have to understand the world you live in and that

4586
04:48:27,159 --> 04:48:30,919
you have to take appropriate measures to get yourself out

4587
04:48:30,959 --> 04:48:33,959
of trouble because we can't do it for you. We

4588
04:48:34,040 --> 04:48:37,000
shouldn't do it for you, frankly, because it's just part

4589
04:48:37,040 --> 04:48:39,520
of growing up. It's part of living, it's part of learning,

4590
04:48:39,560 --> 04:48:43,479
it's part of maturing. But that is what that's what

4591
04:48:43,599 --> 04:48:46,119
I'm here to do, and I suspect. That's what Pete's

4592
04:48:46,119 --> 04:48:49,119
here to do today, just some cold water in the face,

4593
04:48:49,240 --> 04:48:52,439
but also that hopeful reminder that there are other men

4594
04:48:52,560 --> 04:48:55,919
out there that are here whenever you need help, and

4595
04:48:56,119 --> 04:48:59,439
just reach out. Don't be atomized. Like Jose had said,

4596
04:49:00,119 --> 04:49:02,200
learn to reach out, learn to talk to each other.

4597
04:49:02,520 --> 04:49:06,040
I'm not saying become a charity case, but try and

4598
04:49:06,080 --> 04:49:07,919
carry yourself as much as you can, and when you

4599
04:49:08,040 --> 04:49:12,520
need help, seek it and seek it. So thank you

4600
04:49:12,680 --> 04:49:14,400
very much for having me on, Pete, and I wish

4601
04:49:14,439 --> 04:49:15,639
all your listeners the best.

4602
04:49:18,080 --> 04:49:23,240
Speaker 1: Of course, Charles, you're this show isn't thought Crime sends

4603
04:49:23,240 --> 04:49:27,279
to get without you. So d you have anything you

4604
04:49:27,360 --> 04:49:28,040
want to finish.

4605
04:49:27,880 --> 04:49:31,880
Speaker 3: With or just my usual you know, Freeman be on

4606
04:49:31,919 --> 04:49:35,439
the wall slash donate go to go to Jose's substack,

4607
04:49:36,200 --> 04:49:39,159
subscribe to the American Free Press by Charles's books. Your

4608
04:49:39,200 --> 04:49:41,040
interest didn't get the alism, you know, check out my

4609
04:49:41,200 --> 04:49:46,840
program on fundamental principle, you know, just support the people

4610
04:49:46,880 --> 04:49:51,959
to support you. And thank you so much for having

4611
04:49:51,959 --> 04:49:53,200
me again, Pete. It's always a pleasure.

4612
04:49:55,599 --> 04:49:57,959
Speaker 1: You are welcome. We are the thought crime send to

4613
04:49:58,000 --> 04:50:01,080
good and without. When one of us is gone, it

4614
04:50:01,159 --> 04:50:05,119
seems like there's a piece of us is missing. So yeah,

4615
04:50:05,520 --> 04:50:07,360
thank you guys for being able to do this. I

4616
04:50:07,479 --> 04:50:08,040
appreciate it.