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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to Game Mess Mornings with Me Mike Minatti,

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your host from giant bomb dot com. Thank you for

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tuning in. In this episode, we're gonna be talking about

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Nintendo versus the US government and should we still expect

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steams new hardware this year. It's gonna be a good

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one because we have Jana Chow on the show.

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Speaker 2: Jan how are you doing.

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Speaker 3: I'm all topsy turvy, Mike. I'm on this side of

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the screen. You're hosting the show today, Daylight savings time, things,

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things are all over the place. Feels like real substitute

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teacher energy. But I'm all with it because you're the

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cool substitute.

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Speaker 2: People mostly like seeing the substitute teacher.

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Speaker 1: Every once in a while, you got like the hard

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assub who's going to, like, you know, show everybody that

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he needs to be taken seriously too. But most of

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the time it meant you were gonna watch a movie

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or just kind of you know, not do a stupid

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or false test or something it was right that didn't

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really count for your grade.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's busy work. Yeah, except today we got nothing

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but hot stories for everyone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we do, we do.

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Speaker 1: There's a few things popping off on this Monday. So

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I'm going to be excited to get into all of that,

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just like I'm sure you're excited. You're gonna be seeing

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Jeff later, right, Yeah, So Jeff's not here because he's

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in San Francisco for the Game Developers Conference. He's got

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a panel he's doing there about independent games media.

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Speaker 3: What did he know?

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Speaker 2: What does he know? Right right right? That fool, that

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parading buffood. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I checked out Day of the Devs yesterday, Mikey, and

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that was really cool. Shouts out to all the lovely

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people that said Hi. A couple of people Mike said

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that they're so happy for you that you're done with Virtuoso.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's a big talk at the Game

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Developers Conference.

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Speaker 2: It's the three d Oh game I've beaten.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you were the talk of the town.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, I'm glad. I'm glad.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: Since then, I did do my research looking looking at

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Dance potential games. I looked at the one I did

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send him in, the one I was potentially gonna send

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him as the Ripcord.

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Speaker 2: And I have I have pooled the ripcord.

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Speaker 1: Jan that has happened his new game is on the way.

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It's a super Nintendo game. He's got a new costume coming.

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I recorded my process of looking these that we'll put

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those up on premium at some point here. Yeah, but

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I'm both excited and afraid.

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Speaker 3: I think I understand both feelings because we also still

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have to sit through Dan playing the.

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Speaker 1: Game we do, and I don't want him to, you know,

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Sully us and be the first person to not finish

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his Blay Club game.

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Speaker 3: Right. Do you think that's a legitimate concern this time?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I am concerned.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, we'll see.

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Speaker 2: He's made you know, Dan surprises all of us doesn't.

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Speaker 3: Need constantly every single day.

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Speaker 1: We have a lot to get into, so let's start

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the morning mess with Nintendo suing US government over tariffs.

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It's from Nicole Competot Aftermath. The Time of America is

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issuing the US government over the sweeping tariffs President Donald

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Trump been in place last year, according to a complaint

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filed Friday in the US Court of International Trade and

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obtained by Aftermath. Though the Supreme Court has stimmied the

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terriffs for the time being, situation remains in flux or

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companies manufacturing goods outside the US and San State side.

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The Supreme Court struck down the tariffs on February twentieth,

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but Trump vowed tom post new fifteen percent tariffs on

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many global imports under Section one two two of the

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Trade Act of nineteen seventy four. Two dozen states are

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suing over the new tarriffs. As of Thursday, more than

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one thousand companies have also sued the US government for

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what they say is the illegal implementation of these terraffs.

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Those companies include Costco and FedEx. This action concerns defendants

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initiation and administration of unlawful trade measures that have to

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date result into collection of more than two hundred billion

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in tariffs on imports from merely all countries.

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Speaker 2: Lawyers right in the complaint.

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Speaker 1: The time the terraffs was particularly bad for Nintendo, which

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was gearing up to release it's the Tendo switch to

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console when they were announced. The company ended up delaying

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pre orders from the anticipated console after the tariffs were

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announced and jenwow, they didn't increase the price of the

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console itself, prices for accessories.

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Speaker 2: So forth to go up.

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Speaker 1: So there were ratifications for the tariffs for a lot

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of companies, and that does include Nintendo. You know, often

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we see Nintendo maybe not want to get involved politically

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in things. Last week, everybody was patting them on the

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back or the Pokemon company because.

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Speaker 2: Of course, the like the White House.

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Speaker 1: Twitter account was doing that whole pocopia font meme thing

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to reiterate one of their racist slogans or something, and

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you know, Natinda was like, we did not say they

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could do that, which wasn't a particularly strong stance, but still,

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you know, it got some attention. Here's going more out

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the US government. Is it surprising to you or you know,

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in this case, a lot of companies are going after

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the US government. They're kind of just one of a

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bunch here, and they're just trying to get their money back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think it's interesting, Mike, because normally, at least on

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this show, when we've talked about Nintendo's legal team here

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in the US, they're going after rom distribution places and

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emulate people making emulators or Powell World and other things

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like that. I think they are especially motivated because this

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does affect their purse strings. But I'm all for companies

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going to bat and coming after the US government for bullshit,

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the bullshit practices that are ultimately affecting their bottom line.

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I wonder if if some of the Pokemon stuff from

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last week is also part of the motivations for like,

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all right, let's take the kid gloves off, let's actually

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organize and get together to show them that we mean

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business as well. And I bet with other companies stepping

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up and big companies like Costco and FedEx, like you mentioned,

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that Nintendo feels a little bit more emboldened as well

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to like throw their hat into this as well.

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Speaker 1: Right, you know, so sometimes it kind of is, you know,

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this administration's playbook and kind of the you know, right

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side playbook in general, is to really laser focus at

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their company if they perceive them as being in the

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wrong or coming after them. You know, we saw what

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happened with bud Light targeting weird.

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Speaker 2: Things like that.

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Speaker 1: In this instance, again, there's already a thousand companies suing

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the US government. It seems unlikely that you know, Trump

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or the White House or what have you, specifically gonna

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laser focus on Nintendo and start you know, just talking

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a lot about that. A lot of times it is

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just talk, and that's kind of the whole point. But yeah,

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this seems like they feel relatively safe doing this. Obviously

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they have a great case the Supreme Court, which is,

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you know, you know, a pretty Trump friendly Supreme Court

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filled with his appointees. Even they were like, hey, that

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was illegal, you can't do that. So yeah, by the laws,

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it was illegal. These people are presumably, dude their money back.

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I can't imagine what the logistics of this is again,

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because it's you know, one thousand companies and all these

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other people who are owe this money, and like, do

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Speaker 2: To sue to get that money back? Anyway? Didn't we

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just say that it was illegal from the take it?

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Speaker 1: Well, the whole process here is interesting, and I wonder

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how long does this take to play out?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's the other thing I'm worried about, Mike,

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is how long this is actually going to take to

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play out? And if anyone gets any sort of refund

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and you know, from the consumer perspective as well, where

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a lot of the tariff costs was coming out of

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our pockets, do we get compensated back? Do we have

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to upload receipts anywhere? Are we going to get any

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type of financial kickback? The answer, unfortunately for us, is

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probably no. But then I'm curious if, like you know,

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the big big companies out there that are pursuing litigation,

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if they're gonna get anything back, because yeah, like this

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video games and everything like miscellaneous, other consumer electronics, furniture,

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even tariff prices like affected that stuff. So is anyone

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gonna get their money back? Or are are we just

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gonna eventually wind up on the other side of this

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and the artificial inflation of prices that the terroiffs were causing.

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Are we just going to look the other way or

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be told to look the other way? Right?

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Speaker 1: And of course that inflation of prices probably not going

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anywhere because along with the tariffs, and again Trump's trying

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to find ways to go around the court or at

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least make the court have to spend another year or

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so coming to a new decision explaining why the new

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thing he did was illegal. But in the meantime, he's

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going to try to find other ways to impose tariffs.

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And even outside of that, we now have you know,

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all these component prices skyrocketing like ram because of the

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hoarding of these parts by a I so yeah, video

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game consoles are incredibly impacted by this. Nintendo was kind

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of the first to have to weigh into those waters

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with the switch to, and they relatively held their guns.

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Speaker 2: With the price of the switch to, which you.

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Speaker 1: Know, they announced and was, yeah, maybe a bit high

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than people were used to, and then they kind of

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had that weird period We're like, hold, we might increase

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the price. It ultimately didn't, but made us all sweat

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a good bit. But I think we're all kind of

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anxious to see. Boy, what is a PlayStation six going

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to cost? What is this project Helix that Microsoft is

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talking about? Or a Steam machine from Valve? What are

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we talking about? One thousand dollars consoles in our imminent future.

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Speaker 3: And not just like the big consoles that are coming

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out like you mentioned, Mikey, but like you know, other

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smaller things like the next whatever. The next thing is

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from a place like Ayn making another little portable handheld

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or retroid, other stuff that they're going to make moving forwards,

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and like the other miscllaneous, other different gadgets and gizmos

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that will come out that can play all the games

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we already have and play on other devices.

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Speaker 1: How's the tender gonna make their watch for you?

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Speaker 3: Mike? No one has asked me about this.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, all right.

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Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting to see how this all plays

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Speaker 3: And they move very fast.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we all know about that. I saw Alarmo mentioned

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in chat. I want to say I still love my

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Alarmo That's why I was able to get up and

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do a morning show. Everybody, thank you, Nintendo, Alarmo, all right,

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should you Becomi's new studio, Unbound, as building a Triple

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A original IP for consoles and PC. This is from

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Andy Robinson at VGC, but Kami, who's best known for

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creating the Resident Evil series at Capcom, left Teago Game Works,

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the studio behind the Evil within Ghostwart, took in Hi

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Fi Rush in twenty twenty three. Now more details have

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emerged on the designer's next venture via website for Unbound Games.

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According to the site, which has been live for at

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least a year, but was only recently widely circulated, huh.

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The company has been in business it's May twenty twenty three,

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with Bikamia as the representative director. I'm Bound Games is

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said to have around fifty employees with an aim to

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expand to around one hundred and fifty, and is described

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as a fully independent company developing high end consumer games

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creating original Triple A titles accoated job listings. Unbound is

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currently developing a high end original IP project powered by

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Unreal Engine five for PS five, Xbox and PC, and

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has aspirations to work on smaller scale titles concurrently in

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the future. Well, so you know, should you mccamie is

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of course a legend created Resident Evil, which is more

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relevant than ever actually in this moment, and those games

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just keep doing well. And aside from that, Survival Horror

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in general having quite a bit of a renaissance at

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the moment. Of course, Resident Evil at the height of

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its powers, Silent Hell back from the dead. It is

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maybe in a better position than it has ever been.

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we don't know that the next game is necessarily Survival Horror.

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But when McCamy last created a studio with Tango Game Works,

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we got The Evil Within as kind of the flagship

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franchise over there.

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Speaker 2: Did you ever play the Evil Within games? Jam?

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Speaker 3: No, those always missed me because I was a little

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scaredy cat. I did play Ghost War Tokyo and it

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wasn't as thrilled with that unfortunately, But I have heard

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good sentiment around the Evil Within games. I take a

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little bit of issue with him saying that there the

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studios aim is to build triple A original ip mostly

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because maybe let's let's not let's knock it down in a,

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let's just do double A. We don't get all the

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bells and whistles, maybe a couple of bells and a

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slide whistle, just because I don't, you know, game development

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takes super long. I don't want them to throw years

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match whatever benchmark artificial benchmark that people have put in

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front of them, as I fully trust them to make

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a game that looks good, plays good, and it is

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maybe a little spooky.

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Speaker 1: You know, And of course a game works also gave

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us hi Fi rush. I want to be careful about

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using the term double A games because I know Jeff

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hates it so much and this is his show.

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Speaker 2: I want to be respectful.

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Speaker 1: But you know, like, yeah, games that probably didn't take

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five years to make and didn't have you know, a

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giant budget, per se, and even at least talking about

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the size of the studio here, one hundred and fifty employees, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: That's that's that's a lot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's also not a ton of ton anymore

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these days in some ways. Yeah, so I'd be curious

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what can happen. I'm a little concerned about where the

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funding is coming from, sure, right, because you know, we

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saw a negotio studio from these a creator just like Lost.

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a Friday, and now that studio might be closing, right,

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the same names that often fund these studios from these

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big name developers and then they maybe get bored or

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you have one shot to make one head and if

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that doesn't.

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Speaker 3: Work, you're out right.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, so I hope Unbound is a pretty good

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chance here.

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Speaker 3: The other part I'm interested in, Mike is the fact

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that this is like another studio for to attract talent

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in Japan, potentially global talent as well, just because I

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believe it was on gay Miss Mornings last week where

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Greb had the story of just general development practices in

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Japan and like that being a little bit more stringent

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in terms of like, hey, we go through so many

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hoops to find the right person for the job because

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they're gonna they tend to stick with a company for

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an extended period of time, if not their whole career. Sometimes.

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of like talent that didn't get in the door in

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any other Japanese studios or helps cultivate development in Japan,

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I am all for it.

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Speaker 1: Right And unlike over here, they may not fire people

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as often in Japan they have laws that make that

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more difficult to do, but they could also just not

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hire as many people, right and then as people kind

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of actually you know, leave and they don't refill those positions,

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it's the same kind of downsizing that can happen over there.

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So yeah, more opportunities to give you know, what I

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imagine is a great stable of Japanese game developers movie

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don't have work at the moment a home.

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Speaker 2: I would like that.

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Speaker 1: So I'm hoping we see something cool from Unbound someday.

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game developers new studio, but he has done this once

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before with Tangled Game Works, which kind of has had

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its own weird history.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, all right.

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Speaker 1: Final Fantasy seven remake Part three director reveals gameplay mechanics

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and locations fans can't expect from Vicky Blake at ign

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Pelpa said remake Part three director Naoki Hamagucci has opened

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up about what to expect when the third installment of

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the highly anticipated multi chapter game releases not too far

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in the future, including new gameplay mechanics in locations, some

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of which we have yet to visit in the remake series.

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Talking to Bloomberg, I'm a Gucci teas that allowing fans

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to visit Rocket Town in space is one of the

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elements the team had to switch around with Rebirth as

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well as Wutai, not because Ufi's made a very prominent

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appearance stating her case about her homeland. So if UTA's

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not featured, I think the fans are gonna yell at

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me quote I'm good.

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Speaker 2: She also revealed he has.

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Speaker 1: Expanded on the high Wind gameplay experience and flying is

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a very large part of the third installment. Sadly, he

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wouldn't be drawn on chocobo breeding. I can't say they're

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in a on the actual breeding, but there is an

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element of third installment involving chocobo's It is a little

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different than Rebirth or whether or not we'll go under water.

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H Toriyama handled the summary portion of the game Matomu Toriyama,

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so perhaps he has injected himself into there, and I

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will leave it at that, but he just suggests that

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given now and where Rebirth ends, that should hint at

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how the third installment will begin in the Great Glacier area. Jen,

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leak out ahead of this game actually being reviewed or announced.

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Yet where are you with the remake series? Are you

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looking forward to Part three?

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Speaker 3: Uh? Part two? Kind of? I don't want to say

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it burnt me out, but it lost a little bit

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of steam for me in like the latter half, just

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because of slightly switching up to like that open world.

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kind of takes up that format, but there were it

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felt like there was a little bit too much busy

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work for me in terms of like all of the

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different mini games to juggle and everything. But I did

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love God Queen's Blood. Queen's Blood, Queens Blood.

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Speaker 2: It's so good.

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Speaker 3: It was a fantastic fucking minigame, and I wish I

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could have just solved all of my problems in that.

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to conclude this. Uh it's we're only getting three parts, right, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Yes, this will be the third and final part.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, okay. Because I was as you were reading

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through the story, it dawned on me like this is

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gonna be the last, last one, right, They're not gonna

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try and spin this up to get to a part

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four at all.

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Speaker 1: I mean yeah, no, I mean fall Phantasy seven will

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never die. There will be other ways for them to

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release Final Fantasy seven adjacent media, but as far as

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this remake get trilogy, this will be part three. And

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I've heard some other people kind of drop off the game.

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It was a rebirth was a very big game. I

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liked how big it was. I loved how just kind

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of filled with ridiculous continent was. I loved all of

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the mini games, especially the bad Ones. It just kind

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of reminded me of those actual big PS one RPGs

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in a lot of ways. But I understand that it

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kind of does become a lot and the open world stuff,

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even though it's obviously very different from like the kind

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of map slop Ubisoft games we can sometimes get. It

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sometimes felt like that a bit, when it's like you know,

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open up your map and go to the icons and

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do the things that the icons, even though law of

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that stuff was optional, but still could kind of feel overwhelming.

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I'm I'm just curious how they're going to differentiate parts

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three from part two because part two is big this

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one city, so part two open world now this part

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three has some other big hook or is it just

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open world again, except this time like very open from

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the very beginning.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, Mike, I did not hear you for the past

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two minutes, but I just heard you just then. That

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was an audio issue on my part. Sorry folks at home,

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I'd like something a little bit more straightforward and linear

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instead of like an open world with like a bunch

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of like busy work at something. I'd like something a

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little bit more focused, especially if we're going to try

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and aim to finish everything off in this last part. Mikey,

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what do you think the subtitle is going to be

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for this one?

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Speaker 1: Well, first off, I bet you will not be getting

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your wish. I bet this one will just also be

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open world from the very beginning. Yeah, because they were

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I think they already used reunion for uh, to score remake, yeah,

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which honestly Part two should have been called Reunion because

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can people say the word every five seconds?

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Speaker 2: I think it'd be fun Yeah, what are you funny?

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Speaker 1: They just use requiem again at this point, Reunite, Relive, Ripcord,

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rip record Record, Repcord. Uh yeah, yeah, I guess I'm

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curious because there's a big question of.

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Speaker 2: Where are we going with the story.

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Speaker 1: I still don't want to spoil Rebirth too much, as

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a lot of people are probably waiting to play that

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game on switch to you know, I'm still curious what's

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going on with the slight changes to the original Found

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Fantasy seven narrative. There are some things that are mentioned,

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you know, from this interview that I think are interesting,

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like the high wind flying experience that being expanded upon.

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to rocket Town, which in the original game is kind

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of where you meet Sid the pilot, and that was

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missing in part two. That makes sense to move that

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to part three because even though Sid shows up in

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part two, he's not a playable character. Obviously, they were

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holding off on that until part three, and I'll be

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curious to see how he plays.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be fun. The fact that we're getting

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some type of update in some type of news from

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it makes me curious if we're actually going to finally

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at least maybe see a release window or at least

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a trailer, any sort of tangible news on part three.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's got to happen at some point this year.

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Speaker 1: You would think maybe as late as the Game Awards, maybe.

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Speaker 2: Earlier than that.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it can happen at Summer Game Fest or just

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at some other showcase. At some point, it feels like

478
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we got to hear about something Final Fantasy because we don't.

479
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We don't really have a Final Fantasy project to look

480
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forward to. There's not even a Final Fantasy fourteen expansion

481
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announced right now. We don't have any other remakes happening.

482
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There's rumors of a Found Facy nine remake, it seems

483
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like that might not be happening anymore if it ever

484
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was a project. So yeah, as a Final Fantasy fan,

485
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I would like something to get excited about.

486
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm also curious about like how Square is treating

487
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Final Fantasy, whether it's a remake or a potential newer

488
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title or Mikey even Kingdom Hearts four in where any

489
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of these other projects are along in their development cycle.

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There is other talks of maybe like another Final Fantasy

491
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Tactics game, but I don't know if that would be

492
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a remaster or remake of the Advance series or a

493
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completely original new Tactics game. I am curious because, like

494
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like you said, we haven't had any big news on

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Final Fantasy as a whole in a while.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Tactics remake seems like that did really well,

497
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is my understanding, So I don't know why you wouldn't

498
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do something else with Tactics. And then, yeah, you know

499
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what is Final Fantasy seventeen, which is that that's a number.

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For some reason, Fantasy seventeen just has a bad mouthfield

501
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sixteen still felt good to say, fake blank seventeen. Boy,

502
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that is a big number. And I wonder what that

503
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game is going to look like. I doubt it's going

504
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to be a character action game like sixteen was. I

505
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don't know if they're going to like go completely back

506
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to roots straight up it turned based RPGI again, but

507
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I would like to see that. I think it's interesting

508
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that he's being cagy about chocobo breeding because that's a

509
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big fan Fantasy seven component that we haven't really.

510
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Speaker 2: Seen in the remake trilogy yet.

511
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Speaker 1: We had the racing in part two, but I'm kind

512
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of like, well, why wouldn't you do more with the

513
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chocobo breeding aspects of things?

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Speaker 2: So I kind of still expect to see it. I

515
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think it's already mentioned.

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Speaker 1: Queen's Blood's going to be back though, so hey, that's

517
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because that blood is amazing.

518
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Speaker 3: All right, Jen, Mikey, can we go to break real

519
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quick because I might have to restart my computer.

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Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, okay, Jan, let's take a

521
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quick break and we'll be right back with some more

522
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,400
video game news. All right, Jan, enough time has passed.

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I'm going to try to put my glasses on again.

524
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Speaker 3: Your breath? Are you less steamy? Now?

525
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Speaker 1: I think I'm less steamy? Okay at the moment, we'll

526
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see if they hold. I wanted this train as much

527
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to read the news on my screen, which includes this

528
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story by Chris going In at VGC warri Were series

529
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director Gore Abbe has left Nintendo. Ger Abbe posted a

530
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message on x confirming that he resigned from the company

531
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last month and will be leaving the Games Indus Show together.

532
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:13,759
Abbi will be joining the Osaka electro Communication University, a

533
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,880
private university where we'll be working as a professor at

534
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its Department of Digital Games.

535
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Speaker 2: Here's a quote. I resigned from the town at the

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end of February. Albe roade Storry.

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Speaker 1: In April, I will be working as a professor at

538
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Osaka electro Communication University. I like saying that Osaka electro

539
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,799
Communication University sounds like something for metal Gear.

540
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Speaker 3: Solid Good month.

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Speaker 1: I will be part Yeah right. I'll be part of

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the new Yeah good mouthfield, just like Launch Look. I

543
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will be part of the newly established game and Social

544
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design program. I plan to engage in research related to

545
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games and game development, so I hope to interact with

546
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a wider range of people in various ways than ever before.

547
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Abb briefly worked at ASSE in nineteen ninety six before

548
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Assi Asci ASCII ASSI. He works in as Asci before

549
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joining Nintendo I'm Still Steaming Up in nineteen ninety nine,

550
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where he was one of the programmers on the game

551
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Boy adv Inside of wire Land four. He then played

552
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a major role in the first Warri War game, where

553
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he works on game design, graphic design, and micro game programming.

554
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To say Abba, since then, Abba has mainly worked on

555
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the rest of the Wiwer series, serving as director in

556
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Warrioware Inc Mega party games on GameCube. Wyriwere twisted on GBA,

557
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warriorwere touched on DS. Warriorwere smooth moves on WI Warrior

558
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where DIY on DS game and Warrio on we U.

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Warriowere going on three DS. Wyrior get it Together on switch,

560
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and wyriwere Move it on Switch. This was kind of

561
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the serious steward for a long time there. Do you

562
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think this means anything for the future of the Warriorwear series, Jan.

563
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Speaker 3: I think if Goro Abbe felt comfortable enough to like

564
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outright completely leave that he has maybe planted the seeds

565
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for future sikos at Nintendo to continue the legacy of

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Warrior Ware and other similar games.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think that's right.

568
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Speaker 1: And we're also kind of a We're also sort of

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in a place where I don't know if anybody super

570
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wants another Warrior game where a game at any time

571
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super soon. Here, I think I was surprised we got

572
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too on the switch, where after a while it seemed

573
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like we weren't getting any than we got get it

574
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together and move it almost back to back did either

575
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of those titles move you very much?

576
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Speaker 2: Jan?

577
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Speaker 3: It was just it was more so one of those

578
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games that I just appreciated us streaming on the website

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and playing, and that the fact that another one of

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those got made, and I realized that that that sentiment

581
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isn't great because cool, glad that it got made. I'm

582
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not buying it though, but you know, it was fun

583
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to see as many Warriorwere games get shipped as however

584
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many did.

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Speaker 1: Yeah and yeah, I was happy to see those games

586
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come out. I bet we'll get another Warrior war games sometime.

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I kind of hope what we get next from Warrio

588
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is something that's more Warrior Land at jacent or dare

589
00:32:21,319 --> 00:32:24,480
I say, even another three D Warrio game. I think

590
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Warrior World is horrendously overlooked. It's a super fun three

591
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,119
D platformer on the GameCube. A kind of bigger game

592
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in that style could be awesome. But even if they

593
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wanted to make another two D game that was, you know,

594
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Warrior Land five, I'd be into that lot. You know,

595
00:32:40,279 --> 00:32:42,519
getting to play some of these games on NSO and

596
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the Warriorland series and even the Virtual Boy Won, which

597
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,039
is you know, easily the virtual Boy's Best Game, there

598
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might be something of a hankering for two D Warrio again.

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Speaker 3: Sure, I'm curious if Nintendo would feel okay, you know,

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they did this with cadence of high rule of letting

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another indie studio take on the ip of Zelda. I'm

602
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curious if, like, would Nintendo be okay giving them maybe

603
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one of their uh not a their their starting team players.

604
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Like if they give someone a weird studio Warrio, like, hey,

605
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make something with us, what can you do? I'd be

606
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interested to see that.

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Speaker 1: And there were a lot of games recently that were

608
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very Warrio adjacent in the indie space, like.

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Speaker 3: Pizza Anton Blast right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know, part me is like, why not

611
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just tell one of these teams that they can make

612
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a Warrio game? I mean, come on, you know, they're

613
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giving away the Bubbzy license to an indie studio and

614
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that's gonna work great.

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Speaker 2: If it's good enough for Bubbs, it's good enough for Warrio.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Warrio on the phone.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely all right.

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Speaker 1: Falcon announced this Dragon Slayer project for console is by

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Saramano Jamatsu. Fucon was announced Dragon Slayer project. It's tentatively

620
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titled forty fifth anniversary project for consoles. A genre, specific

621
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platforms and release state were non announced. The first Dragonslaer

622
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game launched for the PC eight eighth one in nineteen

623
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eighty four as a new type real type role playing game.

624
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The game garnered attention for its unique systems such as

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simple and easy in their stink controls like ramming into

626
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adjacent Nity characters to attack, distinctive growth elements where players

627
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bring experienced points in. It is back to hone to

628
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Strangler characters, puzzles and so on and so forth. Basically,

629
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jen it was one of the early action RPGs. It

630
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sort of spawned off other games like Zana Do in

631
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that series, and also the Legend of Heroes, which was

632
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initially part of the dragons Layer series, and then Legend

633
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hero spun off into its own thing, which became the

634
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Trail series like Trails in the Sky.

635
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Speaker 2: So dragons Layer has a bit of a heritage.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: The weird thing to me is that it's lineage kind

638
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of does extend to both you know, Trails, which is

639
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already you know Falcome Big Temple, and then Falcom's other temple, Yeas,

640
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which initially inherited the bump combat but has become Falcom's

641
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:18,760
action RPG franchise, whereas Trails is there more turn based franchise.

642
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Speaker 2: So I'm curious where they can slot in a.

643
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Speaker 1: Dragon Slayer bringing that back and what exactly that could

644
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,400
look like all these years later.

645
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm curious. I know with the remakes, they kind

646
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of like switched up the combat where you could do

647
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a little bit more action RPG stuff, but also switch

648
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back to the turn based combat. I wanted to like

649
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the game more. I think maybe I'll eventually give it

650
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another shot. It's just very die huge heavy from the jump,

651
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but I could see there being perhaps like a third

652
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pillar that kind of combines both or tries to combine both.

653
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I'm actually surprised we haven't seen more games mikey uh

654
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trying eight Final Fantasy seven remakes combat system of it

655
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being semi action, semi turn based at times kind of

656
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feeling like a rhythm game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and like there's gotta be some that are sort

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of there. But what I'm seeing more of is games

659
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like that Trails in the Sky remake and even Metaphor

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where it's like okay and you and when you're in

661
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you're running around it's like an action RPG, and then

662
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you initiate the turn based combat that seems to be

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the flavor of the moment, and that's a pretty good

664
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,079
system as well. But yes, I'm curious if maybe we'll

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see a few more fount fifty seven likes because I

666
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like that combat system a whole lot.

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Speaker 3: Just noise up, it's far or fair.

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Speaker 1: Next year, Amazon hikes Pocopia price as the new Pokemon

669
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game seemingly sells out everywhere. This is by Andy Robs

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and vgc uh Na Time Switch Shoes Big new Pokemon game,

671
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Pocopia appears to be experiencing widespread shortages of its physical version,

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with major retails retailers worldwide claiming to be sold out. Pacopia,

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the first Switch Too exclusive of Pokemon entry, released last

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week and as available as a game key card via

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its physical addition. However, dozens of retailers appear to have

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run out of supply entirely already. In the US, retailers

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include Walmart, game Stop, Target, and even Nintendo's official store

678
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are sold out, while Amazon has unofficially raised the price

679
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of Pacopia's physical version to eighty dollars, seeming to capitalize

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on demand. Similar situation in other regions including the UK,

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ASTRAI and others where major retailers are already sold out.

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According to the game Business editor Christopher Dring, UK sales

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Day suggest that physical supply PA Copia was seriously under

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supplied at retailers. It's likely a similar situation worldwide, he said,

685
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suggesting that the shortes could be down to an underestimation

686
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of demand rather than a significant up swell and sales.

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Maybe I bet that sales for this game are very strong.

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Speaker 2: And you know, we talk.

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Speaker 1: About physical digital all the time. People still like to

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buy physical Pokemon games, even when it's that key card,

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which you know, I think a lot of us hate.

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And I'm always curious, like the general audience, do they

693
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really understand what that is and do they care? It's

694
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it's hard to tell, but so yeah, I think undersupply

695
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is a situation there. But boy, I imagine this game

696
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is probably also just selling well in that there is

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a lot of demand.

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Speaker 3: What do you think, jan, I think this game is

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going to do gangbusters. And for as much as our

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audience and audiences that are very online have distaste for

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virtual game key cards, the general audience out there that

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is just looking to pick up the new thing, or

703
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maybe doesn't follow games media as much. I don't think

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they care as much about virtual game key cards that

705
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they're fine just picking it up, and sometimes they just

706
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want the case on the shelf, or they just don't

707
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,920
know any better, right, right, And this this game is

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grub is right, It's going to sell well. It's been

709
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reviewing well. I see it all across my timeline and

710
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various other timelines too. So I've been seeing normy friends

711
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,320
posting about it and saying it's so dan cute. Ditto

712
00:39:21,159 --> 00:39:23,400
Ditto stock way way up now, Mike you.

713
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like Dido is about to become like

714
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,360
one of the sort of main Pokemon. It'll always prominent.

715
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,280
He's probably of the original one to fifty one. But

716
00:39:32,639 --> 00:39:35,320
we're going to be seeing Ditto at almost maybe not

717
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,960
quite Pikachu levels, but maybe ev levels are going forward now, right, Yeah, yeah,

718
00:39:40,199 --> 00:39:42,760
like just a I'm already I'm already wondering if I'm

719
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,679
going to see Diddo in the next Smash Brothers things

720
00:39:46,559 --> 00:39:50,280
things like that. Right, Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna be curious

721
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:54,880
Shantasy's switch to sales info for this month because I

722
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,079
feel like, if if anything, has been a system, soar

723
00:39:58,119 --> 00:40:01,079
for the switch To it is go to be this.

724
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,719
Pokemon insanely popular, these kind of cozy games. We've seen

725
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:10,480
them pop off like crazy before with Animal Crossing on Nintendo.

726
00:40:11,159 --> 00:40:13,440
This game's only on the switch to, which, like, at

727
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,920
first that surprised me. I'm like, Oh, they're gonna miss

728
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:17,800
out on a lot of sales. Well, you know what's

729
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,320
better than selling some software is to sell a lot

730
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,199
more switch tos right now so that you can continue

731
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,000
to sell a lot of software on that.

732
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, the Pokemon factor cannot be overlooked, Mikey,

733
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:34,840
because I've seen some sentiment online of people asking like, Hey,

734
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,639
do you think it's worth it to get a switch

735
00:40:37,679 --> 00:40:41,480
to not just for Pocopia, but for Pokemon Champions coming

736
00:40:41,519 --> 00:40:48,199
out in around the April timeframe. So Pokemon definitely is

737
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,679
selling some switch tos out there. It's gonna be interesting

738
00:40:50,679 --> 00:40:53,880
to see if there's a substantial spike or not.

739
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,280
Speaker 1: Dah, it's been the game I've been playing this weekend,

740
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,159
having a really good time with it. I'm definitely to

741
00:41:00,159 --> 00:41:03,760
spend some more. There's a Jeff Grubb in the YouTube

742
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,960
chat demanding that I do the reviews for Monster Hunter

743
00:41:07,079 --> 00:41:11,880
Stories three Okay. Reviews for Monster Hunter Stories three Twisted

744
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:17,360
Reflection have come out. This is a game for Places five,

745
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:22,519
Xbox Series, XSPC, Nintendo Switch two. It releases on March

746
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,639
thirteenth and with fifty reviews, this game has an eighty

747
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:32,480
five average critic score, and that seems pretty darn impressive

748
00:41:32,519 --> 00:41:37,280
to me. Great ign says Monster Hunter Story three Twist

749
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,239
Reflections is an incredible evolution of an already great series,

750
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,920
featuring a finely tuned loop of hunting, hatching, restoring, and

751
00:41:44,039 --> 00:41:47,559
upgrading that's perfectly joyfully feeds into every single step of

752
00:41:47,599 --> 00:41:51,920
the way. GameSpot given out of ten. I thought of

753
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,440
the Story sub series as a commendable yet modest spinoff series,

754
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:59,800
but Stories three is anything but modest.

755
00:42:01,199 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 2: The tend to like give it an eight out of ten.

756
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,159
Speaker 1: Mastar Story three is another strong entry series and deserving

757
00:42:06,199 --> 00:42:09,000
of a place at the top table alongside a number

758
00:42:09,039 --> 00:42:12,039
of other excellent RPGs on Switch two.

759
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:13,599
Speaker 2: Was this one on your radar at all?

760
00:42:13,679 --> 00:42:18,039
Speaker 3: Jam No? I, mostly because I haven't really clicked much

761
00:42:18,119 --> 00:42:22,239
with the other entries into the Monster Hunter Stories universe.

762
00:42:23,559 --> 00:42:27,519
I've always heard that I might potentially like these. These

763
00:42:27,559 --> 00:42:29,679
are for folks at home. These are kind of more

764
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:35,159
of a traditional RPG versus like Monster Hunter chasing a

765
00:42:35,199 --> 00:42:38,840
monster around a map. To the best of my knowledge, mm.

766
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,039
Speaker 1: And like, to me, it always was kind of a

767
00:42:42,039 --> 00:42:44,639
bummer that Catcom doesn't do anything with like Breath of

768
00:42:44,679 --> 00:42:47,559
Fire anymore. But now now it's like, eh, Monster Hunter

769
00:42:47,639 --> 00:42:53,360
Stories that's their JRPG series now, right, their traditional RPG series,

770
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,079
and this series has kind of just been on the upswing.

771
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,599
The first game, it's you know, it's average score was

772
00:42:59,639 --> 00:43:02,519
like a seventy eight when it got a re released

773
00:43:02,519 --> 00:43:05,480
on Switch. It was originally three DS game, so yeah,

774
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,679
that's ten Stories two in eighty one, so that's better.

775
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:14,000
But now Stories three and in eighty five's that's pretty impressive.

776
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,280
And it's one of those things where you're like, you know,

777
00:43:16,519 --> 00:43:18,719
and I'm not necessarily like Ujan where I need voice

778
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:22,239
acting in my Pokemon games, but the presentation in this

779
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,559
those single player RPG Pokemon games obviously not great. And

780
00:43:25,599 --> 00:43:27,320
it is funny when you look at the trailer for

781
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,599
Monster Hunter Stories three and the production values are just

782
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:35,239
infinitely better than what you see and say Pokemon Legend

783
00:43:35,599 --> 00:43:39,880
z A or you know, freaking Scarlet and Violet.

784
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're you know.

785
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: There's good there's great capcom production value to these games.

786
00:43:45,599 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just pulled it up after you mentioned it,

787
00:43:48,079 --> 00:43:51,639
and Mike, I want a Pokemon game to look like.

788
00:43:51,599 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 1: This, right, It's kind of wild that we just, you know,

789
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,360
we we don't expect to get that, like it's not

790
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,559
going to happen. But yeah, these game look at it.

791
00:44:00,559 --> 00:44:02,679
I guess I always discounted them because I don't know why.

792
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:06,440
I always get a bit of a Saturday Morning cartoon vibe,

793
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,280
which you know, I don't know why that bothers me.

794
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,760
I clearly consume a lot of media made for kids,

795
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,199
but they're so I something about Monster Hunter Stories three

796
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,599
where I'm like, that's not for me, and uh, I

797
00:44:15,639 --> 00:44:18,599
don't know why I think that, considering I like j

798
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,480
RPG's and you know, dragons are cool, I suppose, and

799
00:44:21,559 --> 00:44:23,400
maybe like to see some monsters.

800
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 2: So maybe I should check this one out.

801
00:44:26,679 --> 00:44:30,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, I am. I'm almost curious maybe if the Monster

802
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,400
Hunter name is a little bit of a disservice to it,

803
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,800
because you know, I think a lot of us bounced

804
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:42,599
off of Monster Hunter Wilds just because of miscellaneous other

805
00:44:42,679 --> 00:44:47,079
issues with the game that I wonder if that influences

806
00:44:47,159 --> 00:44:50,079
other folks as well. When picking up the Monster Hunter

807
00:44:50,119 --> 00:44:54,280
Stories game, this looks good. I might check this out.

808
00:44:54,599 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and gosh, there's that's eighty five is a great score.

809
00:44:58,079 --> 00:45:00,159
None of us picked this up in fancy critics. I'll

810
00:45:00,199 --> 00:45:03,039
just kind of missed out on fifteen points for no

811
00:45:03,119 --> 00:45:05,800
reason there. So yeah, it's like it just seems under

812
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,800
our radar in a way that's probably not deserved.

813
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,760
Speaker 3: So also I need to look at it also like

814
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,920
another hit from Capcom.

815
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 1: Capcom is just uh boy, They're in a great position

816
00:45:18,519 --> 00:45:22,440
and they still have Pragmata coming out soon. One Musha

817
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,960
is supposed to be this year as well. They have

818
00:45:26,039 --> 00:45:28,719
the Okami game in this the Future. They got Mega

819
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,400
Man next year, Worstreet Fighters stuff, give me, give me

820
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,000
some more ace, Attorney Police. So yeah, Capcom is just

821
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,440
they're doing great. And I'll tell you what aside. You know,

822
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,760
aside from Nintendo, they have easily, maybe even clud Nintendo

823
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,079
easily have been the most important publisher for the switch

824
00:45:46,119 --> 00:45:49,239
to right. Yeah, but you know that they've been putting

825
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,360
out strong ports on there and this game, yeah this

826
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,639
is on Placeship five Xbox series excess.

827
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 2: I bet this sells the most.

828
00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:00,559
Speaker 1: On switch to definitely see that happening all right, Slay

829
00:46:00,599 --> 00:46:02,840
the Spire two hits nearly five hundred and seventy five

830
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:06,519
thousand concurrent players, almost beating Silksong's record is by lows

831
00:46:06,599 --> 00:46:10,559
Packwood Games Industry, up Biz, Megacrits deck Building sequel Slave

832
00:46:10,599 --> 00:46:12,880
Spied two hit a peak of five hundred and seventy

833
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,760
four thousand, six hundred and thirty eight concurrent players on Sunday,

834
00:46:16,119 --> 00:46:19,719
according to steam Dab, almost sekling the high of five

835
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,840
hundred and eighty seven thousand, one hundred and fifty concurrent

836
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,559
players set by Hollow Night. Silksong Toy twenty five say

837
00:46:26,559 --> 00:46:29,519
Aspired two released in Steam Early Access on Thursday, March fifth,

838
00:46:29,519 --> 00:46:31,880
and Video Game Insights estimates that it has sold two

839
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:36,000
point eight million units so far, generating an estimated fifty

840
00:46:36,079 --> 00:46:39,400
five point one million in revenue. God Figi also noticed

841
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,079
that the game story remains on two point four million

842
00:46:42,119 --> 00:46:45,760
Steam wish lists. For comparison, the original Slave Spier sold

843
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,199
over one point five billion units on Steam between its

844
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:52,400
early access launch in twenty seventeen and March twenty nineteen,

845
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,639
with the official one point out launch coming on January

846
00:46:54,639 --> 00:46:55,800
twenty third, twenty nineteen.

847
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:58,519
Speaker 2: So early access, this game.

848
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:04,639
Speaker 1: Is already an hits, it's already huge, it's already making

849
00:47:05,079 --> 00:47:07,639
a ton of money. And again it just came out

850
00:47:07,679 --> 00:47:10,480
on early access. It's going to be a full release later.

851
00:47:12,159 --> 00:47:15,199
Over half a million concurrent players for a single player

852
00:47:15,199 --> 00:47:17,280
Oh there's co op now, but you know, for a

853
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,920
deck building kind of you know, roguelike game.

854
00:47:20,679 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 2: Absolutely wild.

855
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: And it's interesting how we see these these sequels come

856
00:47:25,519 --> 00:47:28,960
out to kind of the big standard bearer, super popular,

857
00:47:29,119 --> 00:47:33,360
evergreen indie games like your eighties Ones, your Hollow Nights,

858
00:47:33,639 --> 00:47:36,519
and now the Slate at Spire and it's in boy.

859
00:47:36,599 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, those games do well.

860
00:47:38,119 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 1: But when that sequel comes out and you are building

861
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,280
off of five plus years of anticipation for that, people

862
00:47:44,679 --> 00:47:45,800
show up.

863
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I this this, It's so interesting to see this. Mikey. Also,

864
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,639
I am pasting a news story in the dock here

865
00:47:55,159 --> 00:47:59,360
that apparently is just breaking, but I'll write off this

866
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,639
thought here. It's interesting to see the indie space having

867
00:48:02,679 --> 00:48:07,280
so much success with single player games versus how the

868
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,360
big boys are kind of trying to go after live

869
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:15,880
service games and getting mixed success. You know, it's great

870
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,159
to see Marathon have a very good weekend and have

871
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:22,840
a fantastic public sentiment on critically as well as how

872
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:26,000
the general audience is glimbing onto it. I hope they're

873
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,639
able to maintain that momentum. I really enjoyed what I

874
00:48:28,679 --> 00:48:31,159
saw of it when y'all played it on Friday, just

875
00:48:31,199 --> 00:48:36,639
because of it just looks so stylistically good. I'm interested

876
00:48:36,639 --> 00:48:38,679
to see what it's going to be like to approach

877
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:43,280
it as a single player game amidst all the other

878
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,679
shenanigans happening there. But it's really really freaking neat to

879
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:50,760
see the indie space having success and having runaway success

880
00:48:51,199 --> 00:48:54,239
with not only sequels to those evergreen games like you

881
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:59,440
were mentioning, but also being able to continue having a

882
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:04,360
single play space space four single player games in the

883
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,880
indie sphere because sometimes, mikey I don't want to play

884
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:08,559
with other people.

885
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 2: M hmm.

886
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,599
Speaker 3: It's very hard to line up, like even a group

887
00:49:12,679 --> 00:49:15,280
of three sometimes to get a game going.

888
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

889
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 1: I think, you know, we can't do MYSS today because

890
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,360
Jeff's out. I think we might use that time slot

891
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,760
to look look at Slate Aspire too. I haven't tried

892
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,199
it yet, like to see what it's up to, so

893
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:29,960
we have to We haven't made our schedule for the weekend.

894
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,360
We'll do that after this show, but likely going to

895
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,360
be playing some slight aspire to today. All right, So

896
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,760
this is some breaking news here. This is from Rebecca

897
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:43,400
Valentina IG and EA lays off staff across all Battlefield

898
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:47,559
studios Following the record pre key Battlefield six launch, YA

899
00:49:47,639 --> 00:49:50,039
has laid off an unknown number of individuals from across

900
00:49:50,039 --> 00:49:54,639
its baffled teams, including workers at Criterion, Dice, Ripple Effect,

901
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:59,599
and Motive studios. IGN understands individuals are being informed at

902
00:49:59,599 --> 00:50:02,280
the layout are taking place as part of a realignment

903
00:50:02,519 --> 00:50:06,119
across the Battlefield studios as the team continues its ongoing

904
00:50:06,519 --> 00:50:09,880
live service support for Battlefold six. Following launch, all four

905
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,679
studios will remain operational, though the layoffs seem to be

906
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,960
impacting a variety of teams across multiple studios and offices.

907
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,880
AGEN has reached out to EA for comment on a

908
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,920
total number and types of rules impacted, as well for

909
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:24,519
the specific reasons for the layoffs.

910
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:25,760
Speaker 2: Battle six was the.

911
00:50:25,679 --> 00:50:29,159
Speaker 1: Best selling game with twenty twenty five in the United States.

912
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,039
It sold a record shattering seven million copies in three

913
00:50:32,119 --> 00:50:34,480
days and was the best launch ever for the game

914
00:50:34,639 --> 00:50:41,280
in the franchise. Okay, so it's hard to understand where

915
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,159
this is except I guess they launched the game and

916
00:50:44,159 --> 00:50:46,639
they're like, well, now we don't need this big all

917
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:47,960
these support studios.

918
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,519
Speaker 2: We don't need all these people at these support studios.

919
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:54,000
Have you gotten us since that?

920
00:50:54,039 --> 00:50:56,679
Speaker 1: Baffle six has been hanging in there because I heard

921
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,960
a lot about it at the launch, and then maybe

922
00:51:00,079 --> 00:51:01,880
as the months have gone by, I feel like I've

923
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:02,679
been hearing a little bit.

924
00:51:02,679 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 2: Less about it. There was some was there an extraction

925
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,079
shooters Battlefield spin off or something.

926
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,079
Speaker 1: That also released, and seem like that didn't take off

927
00:51:10,599 --> 00:51:15,280
at all, So I'm not sure, but even still, Battlefield

928
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:15,840
is a tent.

929
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:17,559
Speaker 2: Pole for EA.

930
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it just seems incredibly shitty to be laying

931
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,000
all these people off when you're, you know, the thing

932
00:51:25,039 --> 00:51:28,679
they worked on. Battlefield just had its biggest launch ever

933
00:51:29,119 --> 00:51:31,000
not to go. Okay, so, yeah, there was another battle

934
00:51:31,079 --> 00:51:33,960
Royale spinoff. God, Battlefield constantly tries to do a Batley

935
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:35,119
out it nevers.

936
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, Mike, I mean the previous Battlefield game was received

937
00:51:40,599 --> 00:51:43,800
very poorly from everyone across the board, So this kind

938
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,840
of felt like a hail Mary for them to pull off,

939
00:51:46,079 --> 00:51:50,159
and they pulled it off with Battlefield six, especially in

940
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:54,719
a particularly bad or poor year for call of duty.

941
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,280
Battlefield six was there to kind of take that audience.

942
00:51:59,519 --> 00:52:02,440
Do you think any of this is at all motivated

943
00:52:02,599 --> 00:52:05,800
not by what he is actually saying, but because of

944
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,199
a potential sale in the future.

945
00:52:09,039 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 1: Right, So they're preparing to be acquired by an investor

946
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,360
group that's you know, composed of the soft Saudi Arabia's

947
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:19,599
public investment fund, silver Lake and Affinity Partners. That's supposed

948
00:52:19,639 --> 00:52:22,559
to be for fifty five billion dollars. That acquisition has

949
00:52:22,559 --> 00:52:26,719
not yet been closed. I mean, I can't imagine how

950
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:28,800
this moves the needle much there on a you know,

951
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:33,039
that thing's either happening or it isn't. I can't imagine firing,

952
00:52:33,599 --> 00:52:36,519
you know, these people from across these different studios is

953
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,800
much of a drop in the bucket for that. Although

954
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:43,159
once that deal goes through, like hold on to your

955
00:52:43,159 --> 00:52:45,239
butts for the last we're probably gonna see in the

956
00:52:45,519 --> 00:52:48,440
consolid dating and you know, the we're making things more

957
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,840
swift and agile, all that bullshit. It's gonna be flying

958
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:57,239
around like crazy. So uh again, that just dropped during

959
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:01,519
this show, So we'll see if more news comes out

960
00:53:01,559 --> 00:53:06,880
about why exactly this is happening. But boy gosh, these

961
00:53:07,199 --> 00:53:09,800
these these these mega games jan that do have like

962
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,840
five or six support studios. Even that is just it's

963
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,079
wild that we have gotten there in this industry.

964
00:53:15,159 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 3: It is so untenable at this point, Mike, because like

965
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,320
you know, we saw high Guards shut down because they

966
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:25,639
didn't reach specific metrics, and you know, again there there's

967
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:30,039
other money at play there. But Battlefield six, for all

968
00:53:30,039 --> 00:53:33,840
intents and purposes, was a success. It was like one

969
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,519
of the best selling games of last year. So I

970
00:53:36,639 --> 00:53:39,480
don't understand, like the math really doesn't add up for

971
00:53:39,599 --> 00:53:44,079
me on as a consumer because then it's like, okay,

972
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,880
so you're still gonna like lay off these people close

973
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,960
studios even if I do buy the game, even if

974
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:55,679
I do like it. What I don't know what these

975
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:59,880
publishers or the people in power actually want other than

976
00:54:00,079 --> 00:54:04,519
to reduce numbers on a spreadsheets so other numbers look better.

977
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: And you know, this isn't a news story per se,

978
00:54:07,599 --> 00:54:10,280
but it's it's I think everybody's trying to get a

979
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:15,920
sense of how how is marathon doing right, yeah, because

980
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,159
you know, it seems like every day it peaks at

981
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:21,079
least according to you know, Steam dB, which is of

982
00:54:21,159 --> 00:54:23,400
some perfect metric, and this cames out on you know,

983
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,719
like PlayStation and suppose you would hope a lot of

984
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,039
people play PlayStation, but on Steam it kind of tops

985
00:54:28,119 --> 00:54:31,440
up around like the seventy five thousand range each day,

986
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:33,920
which seems like a lot of people. Is that a

987
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,760
ton of people? Is that a mega hit amount of people?

988
00:54:37,159 --> 00:54:40,679
I don't think so. In my mind it should be

989
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:45,159
good enough. But you know, PlayStation Sony might have very

990
00:54:45,159 --> 00:54:48,280
specific ideas about how expensive this game is and what

991
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:50,719
sort of player base and how many sales it needs

992
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:54,119
to do to make that money back. So, like, you know,

993
00:54:54,599 --> 00:54:57,480
even something that seems like it's doing well to me

994
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,639
by certain metrics like marathon, I don't know.

995
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's doing well enough.

996
00:55:03,559 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, It's it's hard to say, because again, numbers will

997
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:12,280
look impressive to me, but apparently we'll be very disappointing

998
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,000
to the people that actually matter and that are calling

999
00:55:15,039 --> 00:55:15,519
the shots.

1000
00:55:16,639 --> 00:55:17,559
Speaker 2: All right, last story here.

1001
00:55:17,599 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: Valve insists it will release Steam Machine in Steam Framemant

1002
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,519
twenty twenty six, after blog said it quote hoped to

1003
00:55:24,039 --> 00:55:27,400
this by Chris Golan VGC. Valves reiterated that it will

1004
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,519
release the Steam Machine in Steam Frameman twenty twenty six,

1005
00:55:29,559 --> 00:55:34,320
after posting a blog that applied it could be delayed.

1006
00:55:35,639 --> 00:55:37,960
So you know they did this blog post basically jen

1007
00:55:38,039 --> 00:55:39,800
and it's like, here's the lineup of harb we'll announced

1008
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,320
twenty twenty five. We hope the ship in twenty twenty six,

1009
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:46,280
but as we shared recently, memory and short shortages shortage

1010
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:50,199
shortages we have created challenges for us. We'll share updates

1011
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:54,280
publicly when we finalize our plans. So after the posting

1012
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:56,400
of this blog article, the use of the phrase we

1013
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,480
hope the ship led some to believe that the delay

1014
00:55:58,519 --> 00:56:00,239
could be more severe and that there was a chance

1015
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,840
the devices could be held back until twenty twenty seven.

1016
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:06,440
Now an attempt to reassure players that this isn't the case,

1017
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,440
Valves confirmed that the devices will indeed ship this year,

1018
00:56:09,639 --> 00:56:12,519
telling the Verge that nothing has actually changed in our end.

1019
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:16,280
The article is then I was then edited to remove

1020
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:19,400
the we hope to shipboarding, replacing it with a more

1021
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:26,400
certain commitment to release in twenty twenty six. So I

1022
00:56:26,679 --> 00:56:28,239
don't know there's a part of me jan that's like,

1023
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:32,079
I certainly believe them, but I still want to be

1024
00:56:32,119 --> 00:56:35,920
surprised if something happens here, Yeah, you know it's Valve,

1025
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:37,760
or maybe Valves is going to say, well, I guess

1026
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:39,639
these things are going to be expensive and you know

1027
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:41,440
you're going to have to deal with it, or you know,

1028
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:45,760
they aren't necessarily reaching for that giant, super mainstream audience.

1029
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:49,159
They are making a bit more of an enthusiast product

1030
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:53,000
so they can get away with They will not sweat

1031
00:56:53,039 --> 00:56:58,159
the high price as much as say PlayStation will. But

1032
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,880
even still, they want to sell these things. They want

1033
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,599
to return on investment, They want to grow this business.

1034
00:57:03,639 --> 00:57:07,480
They probably don't want to have to release a Steam

1035
00:57:07,559 --> 00:57:10,599
Machine that is well north of one thousand dollars.

1036
00:57:11,119 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean from the sentiment that I got when

1037
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:17,480
Dan and I visited Valve Gosh. I forget when that was,

1038
00:57:17,559 --> 00:57:20,239
and when we checked out the Steam Machine and the

1039
00:57:20,239 --> 00:57:24,480
Steam frame. The common sentiment and I fully acknowledged that

1040
00:57:24,559 --> 00:57:28,079
this could just be dev talk and pr speak of

1041
00:57:29,039 --> 00:57:32,679
but I fully bought in that they want to just

1042
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:37,440
make these games easier for people to play PC games,

1043
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:41,599
easier to play across the board, whether it is now

1044
00:57:41,639 --> 00:57:44,000
at your living room, a different TV at your house,

1045
00:57:44,719 --> 00:57:46,880
and then making VR a little bit more approachable. And

1046
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:50,760
understandably that's all going to be expensive as is, but

1047
00:57:51,039 --> 00:57:53,360
I would like to give them the benefit of the doubt.

1048
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,760
Is like that they're still kind of at least trying

1049
00:57:56,079 --> 00:57:59,000
to keep the consumer in mind and try and make

1050
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:03,199
sure that this isn't going to be obscenely expensive and

1051
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,840
at least somewhat approachable. Like I was always surprised at,

1052
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:09,400
like how much the steam Deck cost when it originally launched.

1053
00:58:09,559 --> 00:58:13,360
I'm like, oh, okay, that's not as bad as I thought.

1054
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,079
And maybe they're also hoping to get people having that

1055
00:58:17,119 --> 00:58:21,840
thought as well initially when they announced the steam Frame

1056
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,719
and the steam Machine of like, oh that's not that bad.

1057
00:58:26,519 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 1: I'll be curious to see what happens here, and when

1058
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,559
we hear more about these things, I'm certainly not expecting them,

1059
00:58:31,599 --> 00:58:34,559
Like I don't know, I'm not expecting them sooner rather

1060
00:58:34,599 --> 00:58:38,119
than later, right, yeah, you know, and you know it's

1061
00:58:38,199 --> 00:58:41,440
multiple things here, so maybe steam Frame happens before Steam Machine.

1062
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:42,840
I would I think a lot of people just want

1063
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,039
the controller, honestly, So it's like it was the controller

1064
00:58:45,039 --> 00:58:45,679
as soon as you can.

1065
00:58:45,719 --> 00:58:46,719
Speaker 2: I want to mess around with that.

1066
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:51,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, I am curious, Like you know, I don't know

1067
00:58:51,679 --> 00:58:56,480
a lot about product development, but I wonder is that

1068
00:58:56,719 --> 00:58:59,559
factoring into component parts with a controller?

1069
00:58:59,639 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: I don't know, all right, Jane, that's it for the

1070
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:08,000
news stories here. I now know and understand that Friday

1071
00:59:08,039 --> 00:59:14,840
is when the bomb twelve Bob ten twelve, right twelve,

1072
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:18,079
bomb twelve happened, So there wasn't a pull on Friday.

1073
00:59:18,079 --> 00:59:21,119
I did make a new poll here. Have you bought Pocopia?

1074
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:25,320
Your options are yes, no, and I don't have a

1075
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,519
switch to so just curious to see maybe you'll get

1076
00:59:28,559 --> 00:59:31,639
some kind of sense of how big Pikopia fever is

1077
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:36,639
going through our community at the moment.

1078
00:59:37,519 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 2: But yeah, what.

1079
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:41,639
Speaker 1: About you, jentle, I mean you didn't buy Pocopia, you

1080
00:59:41,719 --> 00:59:44,559
actually gotten an early code for it. But you imagine

1081
00:59:44,599 --> 00:59:47,719
if that wasn't the case, that the Pacopia fever would

1082
00:59:47,719 --> 00:59:49,440
have swept you up and you would have been in there.

1083
00:59:49,599 --> 00:59:53,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. I think seeing such a positive

1084
00:59:53,079 --> 00:59:57,800
sentiment from that little preview round was enough to convince me.

1085
00:59:58,039 --> 00:59:59,639
And I don't know, we could all use a little

1086
00:59:59,639 --> 01:00:03,280
bit more whimsy in our lives given the hell fire

1087
01:00:03,639 --> 01:00:09,159
surrounding us, and uh, Pacopia is nothing but lovely whimsy.

1088
01:00:10,719 --> 01:00:13,639
Speaker 1: It's good and unlike say, like sometimes the animal across

1089
01:00:13,679 --> 01:00:14,960
the games are like, there's nothing else for you to

1090
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:15,480
do today.

1091
01:00:15,559 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 2: You did your stuff for the day.

1092
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:21,599
Speaker 1: This game never kind of stops you, right, There's always

1093
01:00:21,639 --> 01:00:23,599
something to do. I just kind of got to my

1094
01:00:23,679 --> 01:00:24,760
first next region.

1095
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 3: Oh okay, so fun.

1096
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:29,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, that's big and I actually my first

1097
01:00:29,679 --> 01:00:32,480
Pokemon center should be done being built today, so I'm

1098
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:33,559
excited to see what's going on.

1099
01:00:33,639 --> 01:00:36,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, for the most part, like that's the There are

1100
01:00:36,199 --> 01:00:39,360
big builds in the game that will take in game

1101
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:42,199
a day or real lifetime a day. But then that's

1102
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,920
kind of it, Mike. You can just do whatever you want.

1103
01:00:45,639 --> 01:00:47,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just it's addicting.

1104
01:00:47,159 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 3: It is.

1105
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:49,679
Speaker 1: It's a It's a game that you want to play

1106
01:00:49,719 --> 01:00:53,280
and are thinking about when you're not playing it. All right, everybody,

1107
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:56,079
thank you so much for hanging out with me, jan

1108
01:00:56,159 --> 01:00:59,039
thank you for joining me and helping me along here

1109
01:00:59,079 --> 01:01:00,320
as I cover for Jeff.

1110
01:01:00,559 --> 01:01:04,519
Speaker 3: What a day for Mikey's, What a day for Mikey's.

1111
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 1: So what's happening on giant bomb dot com like I said,

1112
01:01:08,639 --> 01:01:11,079
no miss today, but we're probably checking out Slate the

1113
01:01:11,159 --> 01:01:16,079
Spire two, so please look forward to that.

1114
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:20,519
Speaker 3: I'm probably gonna try and make my way down to

1115
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,360
GDC later today, if not the rest of the week.

1116
01:01:23,519 --> 01:01:26,960
So if you are attending GDC and you see me,

1117
01:01:27,519 --> 01:01:31,320
don't be shy, go say hi. I love talking to

1118
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:34,119
the community. And hey, if you have a game that

1119
01:01:34,159 --> 01:01:37,039
you're showing off at GDC, I'm very poor at responding

1120
01:01:37,039 --> 01:01:39,480
to emails, but just grab me and shove me in

1121
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:42,719
front of your demo station. That happened yesterday and I

1122
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,079
checked out a lovely game that I'll talk about tomorrow

1123
01:01:45,079 --> 01:01:45,760
on the BombCast.

1124
01:01:46,559 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 2: So you heard it. You heard them.

1125
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 1: Everybody shove Jeff and Jan shove them grab Grub shove Jan.

1126
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:55,039
Speaker 2: There you go. Okay, I like it.

1127
01:01:55,079 --> 01:01:55,679
Speaker 3: That makes sense.

1128
01:01:56,239 --> 01:01:58,519
Speaker 1: BombCast tomorrow as well, and we'll figure out what else

1129
01:01:58,519 --> 01:02:02,039
we're doing this week. So thank you again, everybody. I

1130
01:02:02,039 --> 01:02:04,880
don't uh what he had, Man, he has this written too.

1131
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:05,880
I'm like, what do I say at the end?

1132
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:06,079
Speaker 3: There?

1133
01:02:06,119 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 1: With that, we are out. Thank you to our guests.

1134
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:11,159
Thank you for being the best audience. Agains right, he

1135
01:02:11,199 --> 01:02:13,760
says that, And until next morning, mess have a good one,

1136
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:21,639
take care of yourself and goodbye.