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Speaker 1: I feel like I can exhale and put a smile
Speaker 1: on my face because time of week we always get
Speaker 1: to talk to I hurt. Media aviation expert Jay Ratt left. Jay,
Speaker 1: welcome back to the Morning show, my friend. I love
Speaker 1: having you on.
Speaker 4: Hey, pleasant, good morning to you. It's it's good to
Speaker 4: be back. Last Thursday, I'm like wandering around lost. I'm
Speaker 4: glad you were having a good time, but you know,
Speaker 4: I'm just yeah, it wasn't the same.
Speaker 1: So I'm glad we're chatting again. I am too, And
Speaker 1: I'd be honest with you. I was probably still sleeping.
Speaker 4: I didn't text you to ask how you were doing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Now that's funny because I always appreciate you and
Speaker 1: Dan Carly dor Kevin Gordon filling in for me, and
Speaker 1: I never listened because when I'm taking my days off
Speaker 1: and I'm doing this staycation, I am sleeping as late
Speaker 1: as I can because it's one of the things I enjoy,
Speaker 1: not having to get up at two thirty. But beyond that,
Speaker 1: and I always throw your curveball. I this is an
Speaker 1: opportunity for you to double on something you've warned people about.
Speaker 1: Time and time again. Alaska Airlines East one seventy five
Speaker 1: getting ready to leave Seattle Tacoma International Airport heading on
Speaker 1: over to Redmond Municipal and apparently traveler loading his gear
Speaker 1: up late pulled a tennis racket out of his bag
Speaker 1: and made a joke saying, well, I finally got the
Speaker 1: bomb in and that resulted and of course a delayed flight.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, in what happens is people say, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: it was just a joke. Well, I'm sorry once the
Speaker 4: words come out of your mouth. There is no other
Speaker 4: protocol for anyone in the airline industry other than to
Speaker 4: a kick you off, b make sure all your check
Speaker 4: luggage is off, and they will probably many times they'll
Speaker 4: even do an inspection of the aircraft to make sure
Speaker 4: you didn't bring anything on board that you might have
Speaker 4: been able to get through. Security is a pain in
Speaker 4: the butt for everybody. And and well, you know a
Speaker 4: lot of times people are looking for a you know,
Speaker 4: make a joke, kaha kind of thing, and some people
Speaker 4: are just scared to death to fly, and when they do,
Speaker 4: they just babble on and sometimes they say some of
Speaker 4: the most ridiculous things that you could ever hear come
Speaker 4: out of their mouth, and all you do is inconvenience
Speaker 4: every single person. You'll probably never again fly that airline, right,
Speaker 4: and you're looking at a fine from the Federal Aviation Administration.
Speaker 4: I mean, you're gonna have years of problems because of
Speaker 4: one stupid comment. But the airline cannot allow that flight
Speaker 4: to be dispatched in the event. Somebody said that because
Speaker 4: if the airplane were to take off, god forbid, and
Speaker 4: have an accident and crash, there's three survivors. What's the
Speaker 4: three survivors going to report? Well, the last thing I
Speaker 4: remember was some guy saying at a bomb on an airplane?
Speaker 4: Right now, they could probably disprove that from the NTSB investigation,
Speaker 4: but the airlines are going to take that risk. It's
Speaker 4: simply not going to be allowed. And yeah, that was
Speaker 4: the end result.
Speaker 1: Well, as the article reports, I do it in abundance
Speaker 1: of caution. This is along lines with what you're talking talking about.
Speaker 1: The aircraft was deeplane and a canine searched the aircraft
Speaker 1: and cleared it for travel. Now is that do airports
Speaker 1: typically keep canines locally and they're ready to do.
Speaker 2: Something like this?
Speaker 4: Yeah, most many airports will have the canine teams that
Speaker 4: are there for explosive trace residue and other types of
Speaker 4: things that might be associated with an instrument of terror.
Speaker 4: A lot of times they're behind the scenes around the
Speaker 4: baggage after we've turned it over.
Speaker 2: Yeah check baggage.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, it's part of the process. You see them
Speaker 4: occasionally walking through the terminals, but most of the times
Speaker 4: it's behind the scenes. It's one of the many, many
Speaker 4: things we do from a security standpoint that people don't see.
Speaker 4: And when you have somebody that breaches security and gets
Speaker 4: past security, you've got to search. When you have someone
Speaker 4: that has made a threat, even though they say it's joking,
Speaker 4: you have to assume it's real and go from there.
Speaker 4: You also have to be concerned if they're flying with
Speaker 4: someone else, So a lot of times when they deplane,
Speaker 4: there will be a review by law enforcement to see
Speaker 4: if this individual was knowingly flying with someone, or if
Speaker 4: someone had an identical travel itinerary or something where if
Speaker 4: they're going to the same city, connecting to the same city, whatever,
Speaker 4: that individual is going to have a conversation and they're
Speaker 4: going to see if there's any connection between the person
Speaker 4: who said it was a joke and another passenger. So
Speaker 4: there's so many things that have to happen, and so
Speaker 4: many people are inconvenienced. Again, and believe me, law enforcement
Speaker 4: is going to go through it as though it's a
Speaker 4: real threat. And if they find out, you know it's not,
Speaker 4: that individual is going to be facing some serious consequences.
Speaker 4: But they have no choice. It's not like they can say, okay,
Speaker 4: that's all right. It's a lot like if if somebody
Speaker 4: boards an airplane and they're sitting there waiting for the
Speaker 4: crew to arrive. The crew comes in and everybody applause,
Speaker 4: we can go, and somebody says, oh, they were in
Speaker 4: the bar drinking. They've got us stop, go get the
Speaker 4: blood tests. We had that happened at Northwest with some
Speaker 4: stupid lady comment from the back of the airplane who
Speaker 4: said that, and the captain says, we can't leave. And
Speaker 4: it's because again, had that plane crashers three survivors. What
Speaker 4: are the gonna say, crew is drinking in the bar.
Speaker 4: It just you know, thankfully, with two and a half
Speaker 4: million people a day that fly Brian, this doesn't happen
Speaker 4: very often.
Speaker 2: Indeed it does.
Speaker 4: It makes headlines because of how many people were inconvenienced
Speaker 4: on that flight. And remember that plane's going somewhere else,
Speaker 4: so there's a bunch of people waiting for that plane
Speaker 4: to arrive so they can fly it to where they're going.
Speaker 1: The ripple effect is always something you mentioned too, Hey,
Speaker 1: real quick, were already hat of time in this thing,
Speaker 1: but I got to ask real quick. Thank god, there's
Speaker 1: the bomb sniffing dogs down looking for bags that have
Speaker 1: been stowed in the uestowe. Have they trained them to
Speaker 1: smell or sniff out lithium batteries because we've talked about
Speaker 1: the danger of lithium batteries and stowed luggage before. I'm
Speaker 1: just wondering if you have any knowledge on it.
Speaker 4: No, I don't believe. We've got our friends, our officers,
Speaker 4: the canine officers trained for quite that. I wish they could.
Speaker 4: We've got other ways to look to make sure that
Speaker 4: they don't make it on board a flight. But remember,
Speaker 4: if somebody has a bag at the gate that goes
Speaker 4: to the plane, that's always the difference.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, people, forget about that.
Speaker 1: Yep, get your liftium batteries out of any checked bag
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Speaker 2: Have you ever been in the cockpit before?
Speaker 1: Jared Alaff has thes iHeartMedia eighty as expert. We get
Speaker 1: him at three Thursday at eight thirty. So Jay apparently
Speaker 1: not good news to the Southwest Airline.
Speaker 2: Huh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a historic week in a bad way.
Speaker 4: Two days ago on Tuesday, they for the first time
Speaker 4: ever laid off employees seventeen hundred and fifty. In all,
Speaker 4: they have over seventy thousand employees, but it was the
Speaker 4: first time in the history of Southwest that they've ever
Speaker 4: had to lay off a single person. And in the
Speaker 4: early days when they only only had four airplanes, they
Speaker 4: couldn't meet payroll. Herb Kellerherd, the founder of Southwest, said well,
Speaker 4: we're not laying anyone off, so we sold one of
Speaker 4: his four airplanes to meet payroll. You have the attacks
Speaker 4: of nine to eleven, when a lot of things were
Speaker 4: happening and all airlines were in essence kind of laying
Speaker 4: some people off. Southwest did not even the pandemic when
Speaker 4: everybody was getting laid off. Southwest had nineteen percent of
Speaker 4: their workforce step forward and say, look, we'll take an
Speaker 4: early retirement so the people behind us can enjoy the
Speaker 4: career we had. So it's always been an object of pride, rightfully,
Speaker 4: so for Southwest to say, look, we take care of
Speaker 4: our employees. They come first. But now because of a
Speaker 4: lot of asenine management decisions have been taking place over
Speaker 4: the last I don't know, ten fifteen years where Southwest
Speaker 4: has abandoned what they do best because they want to
Speaker 4: be like everybody else. It's caused now the need to
Speaker 4: constrict as an airline, throttle back and unfortunately lay off
Speaker 4: some of their hard working employees, which you just hate
Speaker 4: to see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a shame, but.
Speaker 1: You know, and I don't suppose anybody will be protesting
Speaker 1: in the streets and shedding the tier over the loss
Speaker 1: of any of those Southwest employees.
Speaker 2: The federal.
Speaker 4: When I put some on Facebook, and I did this
Speaker 4: because of my sister, I put on there what's that
Speaker 4: was going on the Southwest in the layoffs and said,
Speaker 4: do not association this was tariffs. Don't use it as
Speaker 4: some talking point to try to make a point on
Speaker 4: the current administration. This is something that's been in the work,
Speaker 4: yes for over a decade, and it's because they had
Speaker 4: a change in leadership and they had people that said, oh,
Speaker 4: we need to fly to LaGuardia, we need to fly
Speaker 4: and increase our presence in Atlanta and go to these
Speaker 4: airports that have such issues with congestion that instead of
Speaker 4: us using that silver revenue tube five segments a day,
Speaker 4: they can now only use it three and four because
Speaker 4: you're now flying into these areas where it's impossible to
Speaker 4: turn that airplane quickly. So yes, now Southwest is like
Speaker 4: everybody else. And when you have nine hundred airplanes and
Speaker 4: you can get an extra segment, another segment of profit
Speaker 4: from every aircraft every day, it adds up big time.
Speaker 4: And that's one of the reasons that for decades Southwest,
Speaker 4: when nobody was making a profit, they continue to make
Speaker 4: money year after year after year. They were the airline
Speaker 4: of the year. They were the airline that everyone on
Speaker 4: the planet wanted to be like. They were doing so
Speaker 4: many things great, and then, like so many businesses, let's
Speaker 4: try new coke, they decide to pivot and do something
Speaker 4: totally in a different direction, trying to be like other
Speaker 4: people instead of simply doing what you do best.
Speaker 1: Well, let's get this one more in real quick before
Speaker 1: we get to the break here, we finally have some
Speaker 1: helicopter traffic changes after the impact in Washington.
Speaker 4: Yeah. In fact, the Federal Aviation Administration has been obviously
Speaker 4: spending a lot of time reviewing what went wrong in
Speaker 4: DC when you had the situation, and then of course
Speaker 4: we had we've had other situations where we've had helicopters
Speaker 4: in near proximity to active airports, and the FA is
Speaker 4: noticing several airports acluding Boston, New York, Baltimore, Detroit, Chicago,
Speaker 4: and others that have helicopter traffic that is in the
Speaker 4: near proximity to the airport, and they're already making changes because,
Speaker 4: as you and I've talked about for years, anytime there's
Speaker 4: an accident, the main goal is to honor the lives
Speaker 4: of those that were lost by trying to make things
Speaker 4: safer so that we can prevent that kind of tragedy
Speaker 4: in the future. And there's a lot of attention right
Speaker 4: now in Las Vegas because there's a lot of helicopter
Speaker 4: tours around the Las Vegas area, and what they're trying
Speaker 4: to do is make sure that they don't have a
Speaker 4: situation where you're going to have these helicopters operating too
Speaker 4: close to the active either military and or commercial air traffic.
Speaker 4: So they're using artificial intelligence and other types of technology
Speaker 4: to a identify and then to make the changes that
Speaker 4: they need to make. And I'm really I'm glad to
Speaker 4: see it, but Brian it it's one of those things again,
Speaker 4: Why did it take a loss of life for these
Speaker 4: things to be done?
Speaker 2: New?
Speaker 4: For years, the number of these occurrences were on the increase. Well,
Speaker 4: nothing's happened, so I guess we're okay. And that's a deadly, deadly, deadly,
Speaker 4: you know, standpoint for people to take and sadly in
Speaker 4: aviation that tends to be what happens.
Speaker 2: It sure is.
Speaker 1: It's just still scratching my head over how that could
Speaker 1: have possibly happened.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: We'll bring Jay Ratliff back for learn about Apparently Frontier
Speaker 1: Airlines Jet made a mistake and hub delays. Of course
Speaker 1: we always end on hub delays. One more with Jay,
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Speaker 1: It is a forty nine on a Friday eve Tech
Speaker 1: Friday with Dave Hatter and the return of Corey Bowman,
Speaker 1: who probably has jumped up in the hearts and minds
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Speaker 1: more segment here with iHeart media aviation expert Jay Ratliffe. So,
Speaker 1: what happened with the Frontier Airlines jet.
Speaker 4: It was in Seattle, it was taxing for takeoffs on
Speaker 4: a taxiway in the plane broke down.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, got stuck.
Speaker 4: So you're now at a point where it can't go anywhere.
Speaker 4: You have other airplanes lined up behind them. They can't
Speaker 4: go around, they can't turn around. You need to if
Speaker 4: if you know them initially that it's gonna be a while,
Speaker 4: you would bring out tugs to kind of move the
Speaker 4: airplanes around as you need them.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The problem is you think it's gonna get fixed pretty soon.
Speaker 4: It's like a weather situation. We call them creeping delays,
Speaker 4: where it's gonna be a minimal delay. Well, here's thirty minutes,
Speaker 4: Well it shouldn't be much longer. Now it's an hour.
Speaker 4: We had flights out there delayed more than two hours
Speaker 4: because of this jet, and it was just, you know,
Speaker 4: with all the flights we have in the course of
Speaker 4: the day, I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often. No injuries,
Speaker 4: but you talk about the aggravation factor. I mean, you've
Speaker 4: got passengers going nowhere that are stuck on a plane,
Speaker 4: and since you're on an active taxiway, the rules are
Speaker 4: specifically you can't get up and use the laboratory. Now,
Speaker 4: in a situation like this, it's gonna be up to
Speaker 4: the cap discretion, even though by the book, you're on
Speaker 4: an active taxiway and nobody's supposed to get out of
Speaker 4: their seats. But obviously if you're stuck, they probably gave
Speaker 4: them some relief there. But you're not going anywhere, And
Speaker 4: I mean maybe your flight's only an hour and a
Speaker 4: half and you spend two hours on the aircraft.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but wait a second, I'm more intrigued than puzzled
Speaker 1: by was this a single engine craft or something?
Speaker 2: I mean, how does an airplane just break down?
Speaker 4: Well, I'm anxious to see the report on that, but
Speaker 4: they had to put out an alert at the airport
Speaker 4: telling everybody on the traffic part to expect delays with
Speaker 4: that particular airport. So, yeah, it was a aircraft that
Speaker 4: well relatively knew, I think was delivered in twenty eighteen
Speaker 4: or so. But it's just amazing when you have one
Speaker 4: airplane that traps, if you will, other airplanes. Yes, on
Speaker 4: the Texaway and you've seen it when they're all lined up.
Speaker 4: I mean, there knows tail nose to tail, nose to tail.
Speaker 2: It's like a traffic channel.
Speaker 4: It was it, and wow, you've got mechanical situations. And
Speaker 4: I'll be anxious to see exactly what the extent of
Speaker 4: that was, because in essence, have two independently operated engines
Speaker 4: that you can use. But something prevented that from happening,
Speaker 4: and that airplane wasn't going anywhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, real quick, before we get to hub the lays,
Speaker 1: I throw this curve ball light because I saw that
Speaker 1: China was refusing to accept its delivery of Boeing aircraft.
Speaker 1: They built those aircraft as the consequence of an order
Speaker 1: placed by China or the Chinese airline. How in the
Speaker 1: hell can an airline refuse delivery of a product that
Speaker 1: it promised to pay for.
Speaker 4: Well, it could be that there was a delivery date provision,
Speaker 4: a clause in that contract that says, if we get
Speaker 4: the aircraft by this date, we will pay it. If not,
Speaker 4: we've got the options to do this, this or that.
Speaker 4: Blowing planes are arriving late, so they had that opt out.
Speaker 4: But the problem is you may have ordered these four
Speaker 4: years ago, so you're not going to say we don't
Speaker 4: want them to get rid of them kind of thing.
Speaker 4: But what happens is they refuse them. Like Boeing's going
Speaker 4: to care. Don't worry. We have seven thousand back order airplanes.
Speaker 4: We'll give them to another one quickly. And that's when
Speaker 4: Boeing and other aircraft manufacturers get paid, not until that
Speaker 4: aircraft is physically delivered. So you absent of a paint job,
Speaker 4: although a lot of times the airlines take care of that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: anybody's going to take that airplane. So there's a long
Speaker 4: line of eager airlines saying, Shina, if you don't want
Speaker 4: them to, we will glad look at him and go
Speaker 4: from there.
Speaker 1: And based on our prior conversations, that should have popped
Speaker 1: into my head because I have already mentioned that there
Speaker 1: are is a long, long list of planes that are
Speaker 1: waiting for delivery.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of moving parts here.
Speaker 2: Cars keep up with it.
Speaker 1: The couple and often parts from the don't use parts
Speaker 1: bend anyhow, we have on hub delays. What's going on
Speaker 1: out there in the world of air travel today jack
Speaker 1: a lot.
Speaker 4: Of bad weather, But the only hubs I think are
Speaker 4: going to be impacted are Dallas, Minnesota, I think Minnesota
Speaker 4: in Minneapolis is going to probably be the hardest hit
Speaker 4: of the two. But if you're going through either the
Speaker 4: Delta Hub Dallas Hub for American or Delta Shub in Minneapolis,
Speaker 4: expect some delays. The rest of the country should be
Speaker 4: in pretty good shape today.
Speaker 1: Always enjoy the conversation, Jay Rathl. I've already looking forward
Speaker 1: to next Thursday. Have a wonderful balance of your week
Speaker 1: and a great weekend, and we'll get together an eight
Speaker 1: thirty next Thursday.
Speaker 4: On May first.
Speaker 2: I believe it's good. That's right.
Speaker 4: I'll talk to you next month.
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