Speaker 1: We had a meeting today, as you know, with President Zelensky,
Speaker 1: and I would say it didn't work out exactly great
Speaker 1: from his standpoint. I mean, he very much overplayed his hand.
Speaker 2: We're looking for peace.
Speaker 1: We're not looking for somebody that's going to sign up
Speaker 1: a strong power and then not make peace because they
Speaker 1: feel emboldened. And that's what I saw happening.
Speaker 2: I'm looking for peace.
Speaker 1: We're not looking to go into a ten year war
Speaker 1: and play games. We won peace, and it was just
Speaker 1: firing pressure that.
Speaker 2: If we do that, if we sign up. He's looking for.
Speaker 3: Something that I'm not looking for.
Speaker 1: He's looking to go on and fight, fight, fight, We're
Speaker 1: looking to end to death. Two thousand people died this week.
Speaker 1: Told you further than that, but two thousand approximately people
Speaker 1: died this week, young Ukrainians and Russians. And somebody would say,
Speaker 1: why do you care about Ukraine and Russian soldiers.
Speaker 4: I care about them, care about everybody.
Speaker 5: The press conference heard around the world today. Vladimir Zelenski
Speaker 5: landed in DC and he entered the White House and
Speaker 5: he had a conversation with the President of the United States,
Speaker 5: Donald Trump and the Vice President United States, Jade Vance,
Speaker 5: was sitting by his side. It's actually about an hour
Speaker 5: long conversation, and shockingly, it was done in front of
Speaker 5: the press corps or at least a huge amount of
Speaker 5: photographers and I assume reporters. It's one of the most Honestly,
Speaker 5: I think it's the most unique thing I've ever seen
Speaker 5: in geopolitics. I have never seen a foreign dignitary, much
Speaker 5: less a foreign president sit down. And I mean he's
Speaker 5: from a war torn country. It's also a proxy war
Speaker 5: of ours, clearly, and to have this debate, which I
Speaker 5: don't think it intended to be a debate, but to
Speaker 5: have this debate in the public eye, for us to
Speaker 5: look in on it, to see how this actually plays out,
Speaker 5: it's one of the most enlightening things I've ever seen.
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't think I'm overstating it. If anybody
Speaker 5: has not seen this, you'll understand why I'm saying it.
Speaker 5: Those that have already seen this, you will absolutely agree
Speaker 5: with me. I would imagine that this is just revelatory
Speaker 5: as to the inner workings of how foreign diplomats and
Speaker 5: presidents interact with one another. I'm not going to show
Speaker 5: the entire thing, because like I said, it's about an
Speaker 5: hour long sit down conversation, but the ten minutes of
Speaker 5: disaster for Zelensky was at the end. So I just
Speaker 5: want to recap the open by explaining, and certainly you're
Speaker 5: welcome to watch the entire thing if you'd like to,
Speaker 5: but it's for the most part, it's not eventful for
Speaker 5: the first forty five minutes or so. And what's happening is,
Speaker 5: you know, Trump is being very complimentary to Ukraine, He's
Speaker 5: being very amicable, even flattering at times, and Zelensky just
Speaker 5: continues to increasingly become more and more belligerent, and you
Speaker 5: can tell that his belligerence starts to wear on Trump
Speaker 5: and jad Evans and by the end of it, there's
Speaker 5: this breaking point. And we're going to get into the
Speaker 5: breaking point in a second, but I first just want
Speaker 5: to talk a little bit about why I think this
Speaker 5: is such a Actually I'm I'm going to save that.
Speaker 5: Let's do the explanation as to why this is so
Speaker 5: paradigm shifting once everybody has had an opportunity to see
Speaker 5: what transpired.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you very much.
Speaker 1: It's an honor to have President Zelenski of Ukraine, and
Speaker 1: we've been working very hard, very close, so We've actually
Speaker 1: known each other for a long time. We've been dealing
Speaker 1: with each other for a long time and very well.
Speaker 1: We had little negotiations fat but that worked out great.
Speaker 3: I think for both countries, I think for the world
Speaker 3: actually beyond both countries, and we have something that is
Speaker 3: a very fair deal, and we look forward to getting
Speaker 3: in and digging, digging, digging and working and getting some
Speaker 3: of the rare earth.
Speaker 2: But it means we're going to be inside, and.
Speaker 1: It's a big commitment from the United States States, and
Speaker 1: we appreciate working with you very much and we will
Speaker 1: continue to do that. We have had some very good
Speaker 1: discussions with Russia. I spoke with President Putin and we're
Speaker 1: going to try and bring this to a close.
Speaker 2: It's something that you want and that he wants. We
Speaker 2: have to.
Speaker 1: Negotiate a deal, but we've started the confines of a deal,
Speaker 1: and I think something can happen.
Speaker 2: The big thing is the.
Speaker 1: Number of soldiers mostly at this point, but soldiers being killed,
Speaker 1: are losing thousands of soldiers, So on both sides, we're
Speaker 1: losing a lot of soldiers and we want to see
Speaker 1: it stop, and we want to see the money get
Speaker 1: put to different kinds of use like rebuilding the rebuilding.
Speaker 5: So as you can see, he's being very respectful. This
Speaker 5: is the opening minute. Zelenski plays nice at first. I mean,
Speaker 5: every time you've seen a foreign diplomat sit down with
Speaker 5: a president, be it Trump or Biden or Obama or
Speaker 5: anybody in the past, it's all very polite, almost scripted.
Speaker 5: It feels like like the all of the details of
Speaker 5: already been negotiated, and this is just about getting in
Speaker 5: front of the cameras and allowing for the journalists to
Speaker 5: take photos and ask a couple of questions, and everybody
Speaker 5: kisses each other's as, and then you know, they take
Speaker 5: a victory lap and everybody goes home. That's not what
Speaker 5: happened today. And this is the first time I've ever
Speaker 5: seen it in the public eye, and I would imagine
Speaker 5: that this does happen privately, probably on phone calls more
Speaker 5: often than in person. But it is so unique, and
Speaker 5: particularly when you can trast it between Joe Biden and
Speaker 5: the entire d n C operation that just greenlit whatever
Speaker 5: whatever Zelenski wanted, and then you can trast it to
Speaker 5: how this plays out, it's mind blowing. Actually, let me
Speaker 5: show you a clip of Zelensky meeting with not just
Speaker 5: Democrats but also Republican politicians and how they treated him
Speaker 5: just a few months ago. So it's a heroes welcome.
Speaker 5: And this is what Zelenski has dealt with for the
Speaker 5: past two plus years, as his countrymen are on the
Speaker 5: front line getting obliterated. He has traveled the world just
Speaker 5: being treated like a returning king everywhere he goes, and
Speaker 5: that that includes America. So the juxtaposition between that treatment
Speaker 5: and what happened today is profound. Let's get into it now.
Speaker 1: I'm talking with my friends in Poland and they are
Speaker 1: the cute aligning of Come on, what's your message for them? Well,
Speaker 1: if I didn't align myself with both of them, you
Speaker 1: never have a deal.
Speaker 2: You want me to say.
Speaker 1: Really terrible things about Putin and then say, Hi, Vladimir,
Speaker 1: how are we doing on the deal?
Speaker 2: That doesn't work that way. I'm not aligned with Putin.
Speaker 2: I'm not aligned with anybody.
Speaker 1: I'm aligned with the United States of America and for
Speaker 1: the good of the world. I'm aligned with the world,
Speaker 1: and I want to get this thing over with. You
Speaker 1: see the hatred he's got for Putin. That's very tough
Speaker 1: for me to make a deal with that kind of Hey,
Speaker 1: he's got tremendous hatred and I understand that, but I
Speaker 1: can tell you the other side is exactly in love
Speaker 1: with you know him E there, So it's not a
Speaker 1: question of alignment.
Speaker 2: I have to I'm aligned with the world. I want
Speaker 2: to get the thing set. I'm aligned with Europe.
Speaker 5: I want you to for those that are watching and
Speaker 5: not listening, I want you to watch Zelenski's mannerisms through this,
Speaker 5: throughout this. I mean, he comes across as if he's
Speaker 5: yacked out of his mind. Maybe it's just nerves, maybe,
Speaker 5: but the facial takes, the hand movements, how he's just
Speaker 5: constantly fiddling with his fingers and he just looks on
Speaker 5: edge and then hiss like these, the facial twitches in particular,
Speaker 5: and the constant sniffling. I really you can guess as
Speaker 5: to what I think is going on with this guy.
Speaker 1: I want to see if we can get this thing done.
Speaker 1: You want me to be tough. I could be tougher
Speaker 1: than any human being you've ever seen. I'd be so tough,
Speaker 1: But you're never going to get a deal that way.
Speaker 2: So that's the way it goes. I have one more question, Hey,
Speaker 2: I would respond to this.
Speaker 5: So, look, I just got to point this out. So
Speaker 5: they've been talking for fifty minutes and they've gotten through it.
Speaker 5: Zelensky hasn't flipped out, nothing crazy has happened. And Trump says,
Speaker 5: one more question, So he just needed to get through
Speaker 5: one more question, and they would assign this mineral rights
Speaker 5: deal to get additional aid from the US and to
Speaker 5: negotiate a peace deal with Russia, like it was that close.
Speaker 5: And then JD. Vance decides to speak, and apparently Zelensky
Speaker 5: didn't like the idea of the vice president having any say.
Speaker 6: So for four years in the United States of America,
Speaker 6: we had a president who stood up at press conferences
Speaker 6: and talked tough about Vladimir Putin, and then Putin invaded
Speaker 6: Ukraine and destroyed a significant chunk of the country. The
Speaker 6: path to peace and the path to prosperity is maybe
Speaker 6: engaging in diplomacy. We tried the pathway of Joe Biden,
Speaker 6: of thumping our chest and PARTI that the President of
Speaker 6: the United States's words mattered more than the President of
Speaker 6: the United States's actions. What makes America a good country
Speaker 6: is America engaging in diplomacy.
Speaker 2: That's what President Trump is doing.
Speaker 5: Can I ask you just before you see Zelenski's reaction,
Speaker 5: did you find anything off putting about what Ja d
Speaker 5: Vance said there? I mean, if anything, he's being insulting
Speaker 5: towards Joe Biden. Like clearly there is no there's no
Speaker 5: slight or shade thrown even slightly at Zelenski in what
Speaker 5: jd Vance said. But Zelenski took serious umbrage to it,
Speaker 5: and he just may have ruined his country, his political life,
Speaker 5: his career, everything.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, okay, so he occupied it our parts, big
Speaker 7: parts of Ukraine, parts of East and Crimea.
Speaker 2: So he occupied it on twenty fifteen.
Speaker 7: So during a lot of years, I'm not speaking about
Speaker 7: Jis Biden, but those times was Obama, then President Obama,
Speaker 7: then President Trump, then President Biden, now the President Trump
Speaker 7: and God bless now President Trump will stop him. But
Speaker 7: during twenty fifteen, nobody stopped him. He just occupied and
Speaker 7: took he killed people.
Speaker 8: You know what the contact.
Speaker 7: Twenty fifteen, twenty.
Speaker 2: Fourty, So he kills that here.
Speaker 7: Yeah, by the said right, yes, but during twenty fourteen
Speaker 7: till twenty twenty two, what the situation the same that
Speaker 7: people have been dying on the contact line. Nobody stopped him.
Speaker 8: You know that.
Speaker 7: We had conversations with him, a lot of conversations, my
Speaker 7: lateral conversation, and we signed with him, me like a
Speaker 7: new president. In twenty nineteen, I signed with.
Speaker 2: Him the deal I signed with him.
Speaker 7: Macron and Mayor kill we signed ceasefire, ceasefire. All of
Speaker 7: them told me that he will never go. We signed
Speaker 7: him with guess contract. Guess contract, yes. But after that
Speaker 7: he broken this his fire. He killed at white people
Speaker 7: and he didn't exchange prisoners. We signed the exchange of prisoners,
Speaker 7: but he didn't do it. What kind of diplomacy gg
Speaker 7: us became involved?
Speaker 5: What do you what do you mean?
Speaker 6: I'm talking about the kind of diplomacy that's going to
Speaker 6: end the destruction of your country. But mister President, mister president,
Speaker 6: with respect, I think it's disrespectful for you to come
Speaker 6: into the Oval office to try to litigate this in
Speaker 6: front of the American media. Right now, you guys are
Speaker 6: going around and forcing conscripts to the front lines because
Speaker 6: you have manpower problems. You should be thanking the president
Speaker 6: for to bring it into this conflict.
Speaker 5: It's already getting spicy. You can see it escalating. It.
Speaker 5: It was all hunky dory, And then apparently Zelenski takes
Speaker 5: umbrage at the fact that jd Vance points out that
Speaker 5: there are big chunks of Ukraine that are have been destroyed,
Speaker 5: and he talks about how one to utilize diplomacy, and
Speaker 5: Zelensky apparently finds that insulting, saying, you know, where was
Speaker 5: the diplomacy back in twenty fourteen, which is bizarre because
Speaker 5: how could you possibly expect jd Vance, who I don't
Speaker 5: even think was in politics at that time. Maybe he
Speaker 5: was a senator by then, I'm not sure, but or Trump,
Speaker 5: who certainly wasn't in power or even in politics either.
Speaker 5: It's just strange. It's a strange thing to get bothered by.
Speaker 5: But it escalates very rapidly from here. And might I add, well,
Speaker 5: Zelensky is, you know, more than happy to talk about
Speaker 5: twenty fourteen and Russia's taking over Crimea. He doesn't mention
Speaker 5: what transpired immediately, immediately like the same exact time, almost
Speaker 5: is the well, first off, the night on revolution. He
Speaker 5: doesn't talk about that or the State Department involvement and
Speaker 5: overthrowing his predecessor. But he also doesn't talk about the
Speaker 5: bombing campaign on the dombask like, well, why was that happening? Glad,
Speaker 5: Like you want to explain that one?
Speaker 2: Na, Na, Na.
Speaker 5: Let's just make this as lopsided as possible that.
Speaker 2: You say what problems we have? I have been to come.
Speaker 6: I have actually I've actually watched and seen the stories,
Speaker 6: and I know what happens is you bring people, you
Speaker 6: bring them.
Speaker 2: On a propaganda tour.
Speaker 6: Mister President, are do you disagree that you've had problems
Speaker 6: bringing people in your military.
Speaker 2: Have and do you think that respect polons to come
Speaker 2: to the.
Speaker 6: Oval Office of the United States of America and attack
Speaker 6: the administration that is trying to prevent the destruction of
Speaker 6: your country.
Speaker 2: A lot of questions. Let's start from the bigin Sure
Speaker 2: Hills to Wall.
Speaker 5: I got to interject one more time here. What I
Speaker 5: find fascinating about this is that Trump is letting this cook.
Speaker 5: You would think Mike Pence, for instance, or a flashback
Speaker 5: to Barack Obama. Did he let Joe Biden interject during
Speaker 5: meetings like this? Not that I ever saw, that's for sure.
Speaker 5: And JD is being quite antagonistic in response to Zelenski's
Speaker 5: antagonism to begin this all off. But the fact that
Speaker 5: Trump allows him to do so, I think speaks speaks
Speaker 5: volumes about his opinion of jd Vance, of his real
Speaker 5: relationship with him, that he doesn't interject. You know, you've
Speaker 5: seen Trump when someone else tries to speak up and
Speaker 5: he disagrees, he'll be the first to throw a hand
Speaker 5: up and talk over them. Trump sits there quietly and
Speaker 5: he lets Jade Vance just cook this dude. And it
Speaker 5: gets wilder from here.
Speaker 7: During the war, everybody has problems, even you, But you
Speaker 7: have nice oution and don't feel now, but you will
Speaker 7: feel it in the future.
Speaker 2: God bless, God, bless you're God bless You're not.
Speaker 1: Don't tell us what we're going to feel. We're trying
Speaker 1: to solve a problem. Don't tell us what we're going
Speaker 1: to feel.
Speaker 7: I'm not.
Speaker 5: And this is where he really cross the line with Trump,
Speaker 5: because the insinuation there is quite clear. He's saying, because
Speaker 5: you have these big, beautiful oceans, you don't have to
Speaker 5: deal with war, but the implication being that if you
Speaker 5: don't stop flaber putin, that war may come for you next,
Speaker 5: which is obviously absurd. Russia is not going to conquer
Speaker 5: all of Europe and then come across the Atlantic and
Speaker 5: invade the United States. It's just but Trump gets fiery here.
Speaker 2: Because you're in no position to dictate that.
Speaker 1: Remember this, you're in no position to dictate what we're
Speaker 1: going to feel. We're going to feel very good, feel
Speaker 1: We're going to feel very good and very strong influenced.
Speaker 1: You're right now, not in a very good position. You've
Speaker 1: allowed you to be in a very bad position.
Speaker 7: That happens to be right about from the very beginning
Speaker 7: of the war.
Speaker 1: Not in a good position. You don't have the cards
Speaker 1: right now with us. You start having right now, you
Speaker 1: don't take your plans. You're gambling with their lives from
Speaker 1: millions of people. You see, you're gambling with world War three.
Speaker 1: You're gambling with world War three. And what you're doing
Speaker 1: is very disrespectful to the country, this country. It's back
Speaker 1: to you far more than a lot of people said
Speaker 1: they should have.
Speaker 5: Man, that is that's about as heated as I've ever
Speaker 5: seen Trump get, you know, other than the Apprentice or
Speaker 5: something like. He is clearly bothered, like deeply deeply bothered.
Speaker 5: And I get it what is happening here, like the
Speaker 5: entire You gotta keep in mind too, it's like Trump
Speaker 5: wasn't responsible for my don wasn't even in American politics
Speaker 5: at the time. So yes, you can say that the
Speaker 5: United States government is culpable in the overthrow and ultimately
Speaker 5: the antagonism that led to the war with Russia, but
Speaker 5: the or the invasion by Russia. The participation that Trump
Speaker 5: has in this is like, yeah, he sent them munitions
Speaker 5: in I think it was twenty eighteen, and he bragged
Speaker 5: about it. He said, you know, Obama would only send
Speaker 5: them blankets. I sent them bombs. So he owns a
Speaker 5: very small fraction of the antagonism. But more specifically, like
Speaker 5: this is on Obama and Biden. Biden was the Vice
Speaker 5: president of the United States and the head envoy to Ukraine.
Speaker 5: Obviously Obama oversaw the State Department. Hillary Clinton was obviously involved.
Speaker 5: Victoria Nolan. This is like, this is the Democrat Party.
Speaker 5: This is their war, this is their proxy war. They
Speaker 5: started it, they funded it, they loved it all all
Speaker 5: the way along. Yes, some of the neo cons in
Speaker 5: the Republican Party, like Lindsay Graham and others, certainly John
Speaker 5: McCain played their part, but like, you can't put this
Speaker 5: at the feet at Trump, feet of Trump, at least
Speaker 5: not primarily certainly not so, it's just it's just fascinating
Speaker 5: that that Zelensky is still talking to him as if
Speaker 5: like this is kind of your bad, you know. And moreover,
Speaker 5: he just comes across as extraordinarily unappreciative, and Jade Vance
Speaker 5: asks him that in the following segment here he says,
Speaker 5: have you ever said thank you? You know? And I
Speaker 5: think that's what most Americans, you know, those that aren't
Speaker 5: even not interventionists like myself, that are just pissed that
Speaker 5: this guy just seems so entitled that you come across
Speaker 5: the ocean, you land here, you put your hand out,
Speaker 5: you bitch, your moan, you threaten, you complain, and then
Speaker 5: you expect more, Like where's the thanks for the two
Speaker 5: hundred billion we've already given? How about the two hundred
Speaker 5: billion that you got from the EU? Like any appreciation
Speaker 5: for any of this? Did we have to do it?
Speaker 5: Like maybe you can argue that the Barack Obama administration
Speaker 5: or the Joe Biden administration has blood on their hands
Speaker 5: and they deserve to pay the price alongside you, But
Speaker 5: the American taxpayer, the fuck did we do? We didn't
Speaker 5: do anything, and we have been robbed to the tune
Speaker 5: of two hundred billion. According to Trump, it's three hundred
Speaker 5: and fifty billion. I don't know where he gets that number.
Speaker 5: I think it's approximately like one hundred ninety billion actually
Speaker 5: to be exact. But regardless, like, why are we on
Speaker 5: the hook? What the fuck did we do? Nothing? We
Speaker 5: did nothing. I had no culpability in this whatsoever. But
Speaker 5: you just had this unbelievable sense of entitlement. And I
Speaker 5: think it just grates on people, and most politicians in
Speaker 5: the West just accept it because I don't know why.
Speaker 5: They've drank their own kool aid and they genuinely perceived
Speaker 5: this man to be a you know, hero writing in
Speaker 5: a white steed. But for the rest of us, like,
Speaker 5: you're a fucking comic who used to do like play
Speaker 5: the piano with your dick and did talent shows. Why
Speaker 5: do I respect? I don't have any fucking respect for
Speaker 5: you haven't been on the front line, you haven't been fighting.
Speaker 5: I've got plenty of respect for the soldiers of Ukraine
Speaker 5: and the soldiers of Russia, but I don't have any
Speaker 5: fucking respect for Latimer Zelenski. And why should I. I've
Speaker 5: been robbed massively to support you and then you come
Speaker 5: over here and you fucking lecture the Paris of the
Speaker 5: United States, who didn't even have anything to do with
Speaker 5: really like sparking this whole thing. Come on, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 5: But I think, what's what's most special about this Biden Obama?
Speaker 5: You can cure Starmer that any Western politician outside of
Speaker 5: maybe Trump and Jdvans and maybe have a vike Ramaswami
Speaker 5: if he ever gets to that high level. They all
Speaker 5: they're all lifetime politicians. None of them have been in
Speaker 5: the business world. They've never had to earn an honest buck.
Speaker 5: They don't know how to negotiate anything. They're just like
Speaker 5: to their core politicians, that's it. That's their entire skill set.
Speaker 5: They know how to smile and nod and let their
Speaker 5: underlings do the dirty work. Trump ain't that guy. Yeah, sure,
Speaker 5: he's trust fund kid and he got a bunch of
Speaker 5: money from his father, But it doesn't matter. Like he
Speaker 5: still went out and endeavored to create an enterprise, tons
Speaker 5: of different enterprises, and negotiated tons of different deals and
Speaker 5: was successful in most of those endeavors. He's got a
Speaker 5: real background in business. Like it's crystal clear to me
Speaker 5: as a former business guy myself. He's he's negotiating in
Speaker 5: real time, in a real way. But what's most special
Speaker 5: about it is because of his business acumen as opposed
Speaker 5: to the statist acumen of all of his predecessors. He
Speaker 5: points out what no other American politician I've ever seen
Speaker 5: pointed out. He says, you don't have the cards, you
Speaker 5: don't have leverage. That's really what he's saying. He puts
Speaker 5: it in you know, poker terminology, and it's a fair
Speaker 5: it's very uh analogous to to business negotiations anyways, Like
Speaker 5: when you sit down at a poker table or you
Speaker 5: sit down at a business roundtable to negotiate, you have
Speaker 5: to know what leverage you have, what are you bringing
Speaker 5: to the table, Because if you sit down with a
Speaker 5: weak hand or nothing to add to the negotiations, well
Speaker 5: then you better fucking play nice. You better find some
Speaker 5: way through charisma or otherwise to convince people to go
Speaker 5: along with you. But if you sit down with a
Speaker 5: weak hand, if you limp in with seven douce offsuit,
Speaker 5: well you better be prepared to either eat shit or bluff.
Speaker 5: And I think what Zelenski has been doing for the
Speaker 5: past two three years is bluffing, and every other politician
Speaker 5: who's never been in business bought the bluff. Keep in mind,
Speaker 5: so Lenski's an actor. He's an actor in a comic
Speaker 5: and a musician or whatever dancing He's like, his skill
Speaker 5: set is putting on a show. Trump's skill set is
Speaker 5: the same actually, but also with the business acumen. So
Speaker 5: when Zelenski sits down with seven deuce off suit and
Speaker 5: Trump's sitting there with you know, rockets with aces, and
Speaker 5: He's like, what are you doing, Bud, You don't have
Speaker 5: the cards? Just fold Just accept that you're going to
Speaker 5: accept my dictation of the terms here. That's how it's
Speaker 5: going down. Can you can accept it and be happy
Speaker 5: or you can flip out and maybe I won't even
Speaker 5: fucking settle, you know, And I think that's that's more
Speaker 5: than anything. What makes this moment so special is that,
Speaker 5: for the first time, we actually have a president of the
Speaker 5: United States who's acknowledging the strength of our hand as
Speaker 5: a nation. That, yes, all of our pitfalls, and they
Speaker 5: are plentiful, like unbelievable pitfalls, especially when it comes to
Speaker 5: our foreign policy, but it doesn't change the fact that
Speaker 5: in negotiations in geopolitics, we have the strongest hand, we
Speaker 5: have the strongest economy, we have the strongest military. To
Speaker 5: many regards, we still have the strongest currency. As absurd
Speaker 5: as that is, you're negotiating from a position of strength.
Speaker 5: Why has every president prior to Donald Trump negotiated from
Speaker 5: a position of weakness? You can come up with your
Speaker 5: own theories as to why. I don't know, but I
Speaker 5: can't tell you how refreshing it is to have a
Speaker 5: president sit down and acknowledge the position of strength that
Speaker 5: he's negotiating from, and, more importantly than even negotiating from
Speaker 5: a position of strength, doing it with the moral principles
Speaker 5: that reflect the American people's principles of wanting peace, to
Speaker 5: see the death stop. So special, so novel, when it
Speaker 5: shouldn't be, When this should have always been the case,
Speaker 5: that you should have always had a president of United
Speaker 5: States that says, you know what, Yeah, we're in a
Speaker 5: position of immense power, but we're not going to abuse it.
Speaker 5: We're going to negotiate for good. We're going to negotiate
Speaker 5: for peace, to stop World War III, to stop the dying,
Speaker 5: to stop the death. Why shouldn't we we have that
Speaker 5: capacity and we do, and we always have, but we've
Speaker 5: never used it for good or very rarely. And for
Speaker 5: the record, I would rather us not be involved in
Speaker 5: negotiating peace between Russia and Ukraine. They should figure it
Speaker 5: out on their own. But let's be honest, we're not
Speaker 5: in that position. So let's just deal with where we're at.
Speaker 5: This is our proxy war. Yes, the United States president
Speaker 5: is going to have to be involved in negotiating a
Speaker 5: settlement here to avoid a wider war. So accepting that reality,
Speaker 5: I think Trump is doing a phenomenal job in a
Speaker 5: moment that requires it. It required someone who has a
Speaker 5: skill set exactly in alignment with his.
Speaker 2: Own entire meeting. No, in this entire meeting, you said
Speaker 2: thank you.
Speaker 6: You went to Pennsylvania and campaigned for the opposition in October.
Speaker 6: Offer some words of appreciation for the United States America
Speaker 6: and the president who's trying to save your country.
Speaker 7: Please, you're thinking that if you will speak very loudly
Speaker 7: about the war.
Speaker 2: He's not speaking loudly. He's not speaking loudly.
Speaker 1: Your country is in big trouble. No, No, you've done
Speaker 1: a lot of talking. Your country is in big trouble.
Speaker 1: I know you're not winning you're not winning this. You
Speaker 1: have a damn good chance of coming out okay. Because
Speaker 1: of the President.
Speaker 7: We're staying Yawa country, staying strong. From the very beginning
Speaker 7: of the war, we've been alone, and.
Speaker 2: We are thankful.
Speaker 7: I said, thanks, you haven't been.
Speaker 1: We gave you through this stupid president, three hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty billion dollars.
Speaker 2: We gave your military equipment.
Speaker 1: You and you met are brave, but they had to
Speaker 1: use our military, one of our best. If you didn't
Speaker 1: have our military equipment, if you didn't have our military equipment,
Speaker 1: this war would have been over in two weeks.
Speaker 7: In three days, I heard it from Puttin in three days.
Speaker 2: This is something maybe less in two weeks.
Speaker 5: Of course.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to be a very hard thing to
Speaker 1: do business like this.
Speaker 2: Tell you they thank you.
Speaker 1: I accept it, except that they're accept the American except that.
Speaker 6: There are disagreements, and let's go litigate those disagreements rather
Speaker 6: than trying to fight it out in the American media.
Speaker 2: When you're wrong, we know that you're wrong, and you see.
Speaker 1: I think it's good for the American people to see
Speaker 1: what's going on. I think it's very important. That's why
Speaker 1: I kept this going so long. You have to be thankful.
Speaker 1: You don't have the cards. You're buried there, your people
Speaker 1: that died. You're running low on soldiers. You're running slow
Speaker 1: on soldiers. It would be a damn good thing. And
Speaker 1: then you then you tell us I don't want to
Speaker 1: cease fire. I don't want to cease fire. I want
Speaker 1: to go and I wanted this.
Speaker 2: Look, if you.
Speaker 1: Could get a ceasefire right now, I tell you you
Speaker 1: take it so the bullets stopped flying, and your meant stuff.
Speaker 2: Courting kills won't stop the war.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying you don't want to say to you,
Speaker 1: I want to see because you get a ceasefire faster
Speaker 1: than any.
Speaker 2: Greet co people about fire one day. See, that wasn't
Speaker 2: with me. That wasn't with me.
Speaker 1: That was with a guy named Biden, who was not
Speaker 1: a smart person.
Speaker 2: That was that was with ob excuse me.
Speaker 1: That was with Obama, who gave you sheets, and I
Speaker 1: gave you javelins. I gave you the javelins to take
Speaker 1: out all those tanks. Obama gave you sheets. In fact,
Speaker 1: the statement is Obama gave sheets and Trump gave javelins.
Speaker 1: You gotta be more thankful, because let me tell you,
Speaker 1: you don't have the cards. With us, you have the cards,
Speaker 1: but without us, you don't have any cards.
Speaker 5: The other thing I like about it is, you know,
Speaker 5: Dave Smith has talked about this too. He says, this
Speaker 5: is Trump's gangster you know, like this is his gangster side,
Speaker 5: and he has been moving more like a gangster. And
Speaker 5: you know, granted, yeah, gangsters can do some bad shit too,
Speaker 5: so this is not it's not a green light to
Speaker 5: him to just do whatever he wants in gangster mode.
Speaker 5: But I do like it, you know, especially when you're
Speaker 5: representing the American people. At least that's theoretically what a
Speaker 5: president is supposed to have been doing, but never has.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 5: He sits down and he flexes, and he's negotiating in
Speaker 5: a gangster way in the sense that like he understands
Speaker 5: that he has immense leverage, and he's essentially like playing
Speaker 5: mercy with him and he has his hands turned over
Speaker 5: backwards during that conversation. He's like, what are you doing?
Speaker 5: Like it's over, Just say mercy, Just say mercy, and
Speaker 5: how about you say thank you while you're at it.
Speaker 5: And Zelensky, high out of his mind, as best I
Speaker 5: can tell, is just to have none of it, like
Speaker 5: he ain't gonna do it, and it backfires tremendously. And
Speaker 5: I think that the key point in that segment is
Speaker 5: that he says, you know, it's going to be really
Speaker 5: hard to do business with a guy like this, and
Speaker 5: I think that's exactly right. In fact, they threw Zelenski out.
Speaker 5: They were supposed to sign this mineral rights deal as
Speaker 5: soon as this press conference was over. And for anybody
Speaker 5: that thinks that this was like a stage performance or anything,
Speaker 5: I confirmed with other reporters there that they in fact
Speaker 5: had the documents drafted, like they had the documents drafted
Speaker 5: ready to be signed, they had negotiated at all, it
Speaker 5: was a done deal. Like it was a done deal.
Speaker 5: This was literally just a photo op combo and then
Speaker 5: it was gonna get signed and they were on their way,
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Speaker 5: buy you some cozy. Minutes after this showdown and this explosion,
Speaker 5: Zelenski is thrown literally I mean not physically, but literally
Speaker 5: thrown out, like they said, get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 5: And immediately the envoys to Ukraine reach out to the
Speaker 5: White House envoys and they're like, hey, we need to
Speaker 5: salvage this. How can we salvage this? And apparently Marco
Speaker 5: Rubio and Heg Seth and someone else tells them. I
Speaker 5: think it was Walls. The CIA director says, look, any
Speaker 5: further conversations today will be counterproductive. Call us tomorrow, like,
Speaker 5: we're not dealing with you today. You fucked up so bad,
Speaker 5: We're not having further conversations today. I'm glad that they
Speaker 5: kept the door open to have a conversation because obviously
Speaker 5: I still want to see them negotiate peace. But men,
Speaker 5: did this guy fuck up? It's just amazing, the entitlement
Speaker 5: two and a half years of just getting whatever you want.
Speaker 5: Three years now, I'm just getting whatever you want. And
Speaker 5: you thought it was the same old boss, and it's
Speaker 5: sure shit wasn't. And again I got to just circle
Speaker 5: back to JD. Vance very impressed, very impressed. I mean
Speaker 5: most second in Man's, most vice presidents, they just would
Speaker 5: sit there, they bite their tongue. They would probably be
Speaker 5: the one trying to calm down Trump. Like in this regard,
Speaker 5: it was really Vance that was firing the hardest. And
Speaker 5: then Trump was interjecting in his defense when Zalnzi was
Speaker 5: saying some nonsense in return to Vance, and Trump was like, hell,
Speaker 5: hold on, he's not yelling. He's not yelling. He's just
Speaker 5: saying shit that you don't want to hear. This is
Speaker 5: this is crazy. I mean, can you guys believe this?
Speaker 5: Have you ever seen anything like this in politics, like
Speaker 5: other than like in the UK, you know, in the
Speaker 5: Parliament when they'll you know, clown on each other and
Speaker 5: you'll have oohs and o's in the audience like this
Speaker 5: is a rare. In American politics, we don't ever see
Speaker 5: stuff like this, like hardly ever, certainly not between an
Speaker 5: American president and a foreign president.
Speaker 8: Wow.
Speaker 5: Wow, all right, let's keep going.
Speaker 1: Because the attitudes have to change.
Speaker 2: Understand that. It's what are you saying?
Speaker 5: Sorry, it's kind of quiet, But the reporter is asking,
Speaker 5: what do you do if Russia breaks the ceasefire, which,
Speaker 5: by the way, the means, to the best of my knowledge,
Speaker 5: was actually broken, which is what Zelenski brought up in
Speaker 5: the early parts of this, was actually broken by Ukraine
Speaker 5: when they bombed the Dambos continued to bomb it. So
Speaker 5: I don't even know what he's arguing. It's nuts.
Speaker 6: She's asking, what if Russia breaks the ceasefire?
Speaker 2: Well, what if? What if anything? What if the bomb
Speaker 2: drops on your head? Right now? Okay? What if they
Speaker 2: broke it? I don't know.
Speaker 1: They broke it with Biden because Biden they didn't respect him.
Speaker 1: They didn't respect Obama. They respect me. Let me tell you,
Speaker 1: Putin went through a hell of a lot with me.
Speaker 1: He went through a phony witch hunt where they used
Speaker 1: him and Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia.
Speaker 2: You ever hear of that deal? That was a phony,
Speaker 2: That was a phony.
Speaker 1: Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, scam, Hillary Clinton, shifty Adam Shift.
Speaker 1: There was a Democrat, a scam and he had to
Speaker 1: go through that, and he did go through it. We
Speaker 1: didn't end up in a war, and he went through it.
Speaker 1: He was accused of all that stuff. He had nothing
Speaker 1: to do with it. It came out of Hunter Biden's bathroom.
Speaker 1: It came out of Hunter Biden's bedroom. It was disgusting.
Speaker 1: And then they said, oh oh, the laptop from Hell
Speaker 1: was made by Russia, the fifty one agents.
Speaker 2: The whole thing was a scam and he had to
Speaker 2: put up with that. He was being accused of all
Speaker 2: that stuff.
Speaker 1: All I can say is this, he might have broken
Speaker 1: deals with Obama and Bush, and he might have broken
Speaker 1: them with Biden. He did maybe maybe he did. I
Speaker 1: don't know what happened, but he didn't break them with me.
Speaker 1: He wants to make a deal. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you can make a deal. The problem is I've empowered
Speaker 1: you to be a tough guy, and I don't think
Speaker 1: he'd be a tough guy without the United States. And
Speaker 1: your people are very brave. But you're either going to
Speaker 1: make a deal or we're out, and if we're out,
Speaker 1: you'll fight it out.
Speaker 5: So wild, either make a deal or out, and you'll
Speaker 5: fight it out. Oh God, this is glorious. This is
Speaker 5: absolutely glorious. I love it. Let's keep on.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be pretty. But you'll fight it out.
Speaker 1: But you don't have the cards. But once we signed
Speaker 1: that deal, you're in a much better position. But you're
Speaker 1: not acting at all thankful. And that's not a nice thing.
Speaker 1: I'll be honest, that's not a nice thing.
Speaker 5: See what I'm saying with the mob buzz. I'll be honest.
Speaker 5: That's not a nice thing. It's just not It's like
Speaker 5: when a guy says fucking mother and you're like, I'll
Speaker 5: be honest, that's not a nice thing. What you're doing.
Speaker 5: What you're doing here is not nice. I don't like capeche.
Speaker 5: I don't like it, all right, ah, man, I love it.
Speaker 5: I don't know if it's just because I was raised
Speaker 5: by a New Yorker that I love the New York energy.
Speaker 5: But this is very New York energy.
Speaker 2: All Right, I think we've seen enough. What do you think? Huh?
Speaker 1: This is this is gonna be great television. I will
Speaker 1: say that. All right, we'll see what we can do
Speaker 1: about putting.
Speaker 5: I think this is performative or I'm overstating how badly
Speaker 5: this one for Zelensky. Check this out?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just went up to the press area to
Speaker 4: get an understanding of what we're watching.
Speaker 8: This is what I was told.
Speaker 4: The President has kicked Zelensky out of the White House.
Speaker 4: His delegation right now is telling him that he's got
Speaker 4: to go home. Uh, the President felt disrespected. Officials in
Speaker 4: the room felt that beyond the language barrier, we've heard
Speaker 4: some discussion about Zelensky's body language shrugging and eye rolling
Speaker 4: was ungrateful, disrespectful. And the President feels that Zelensky is
Speaker 4: not ready for peace, and he can come back when
Speaker 4: he's ready to talk about peace, but he's not in
Speaker 4: that position right now. And Zelensky is being told he's
Speaker 4: got to go. The lunch that they were supposed to
Speaker 4: have is sitting right outside the hallway, and the press
Speaker 4: staffers are going to be eating that lunch.
Speaker 5: They had a lunch planned with Zelenski immediately after that
Speaker 5: press conference, and now the press corps gets to eat
Speaker 5: it because he doesn't get to have lunch with them either.
Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, this is so wild, so wild. So
Speaker 5: that's that's more or less the story. That's what happened today.
Speaker 5: Does it make up for ag Pambondi's failures yesterday with
Speaker 5: the incredibly embarrassing Epstein disclosures. No, it does not, it
Speaker 5: does not make up for that. But I will say this,
Speaker 5: that's the type of stuff I voted for. That's that's
Speaker 5: exactly what I wanted. I mean, I can't I can't
Speaker 5: imagine any other time like, yeah, sure, I don't just
Speaker 5: to all cards on the table. I don't like the
Speaker 5: fact that this was still I mean, what he was
Speaker 5: doing there was trying to get Zelenski to sign the
Speaker 5: mineral rights deal to get our three hundred and fifty
Speaker 5: billion dollars back via RAR Earth Minerals. The fact that
Speaker 5: he said just yesterday and I played this for you guys,
Speaker 5: he said, well, this allows them to continue to fight.
Speaker 5: And it's like, that's not what I want. Even though
Speaker 5: I would love to get our money back, I don't
Speaker 5: want this war to continue, and I'd be willing to
Speaker 5: just write off the loss if it means that the
Speaker 5: war just ends flat right now. But still even with that,
Speaker 5: even with all of my you know, caution in that arena,
Speaker 5: it's just this is exactly what we need. We need, Like,
Speaker 5: if you're going to have a president, wouldn't you like
Speaker 5: them to be someone who actually seems to be interested
Speaker 5: in what benefits America? Right, Like, why is this so rare?
Speaker 5: Why has this never happened before all of the presidents
Speaker 5: of my lifetime? Just dog shit, just absolutely atrocious. And
Speaker 5: Trump's got plenty of you know, black eyes, like plenty,
Speaker 5: but compared to the rest, such an upgrade. And I'm
Speaker 5: just so grateful to have, you know, some representatives up
Speaker 5: there that seem to be first primary interest being peace,
Speaker 5: That's what I really am about here. But then also
Speaker 5: like what makes us solvent? You know, where's the benefit
Speaker 5: if we're going to be participating in this nonsense, can
Speaker 5: we at least come out with some positives for the
Speaker 5: American people? Ever?
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 5: Like no? And Trump seems to genuinely believe that, like,
Speaker 5: oh yeah, hey, you know all those other guys that
Speaker 5: were the president before me that weren't actually functioning in
Speaker 5: any sort of executive capacity, I am actually that guy,
Speaker 5: Like I'm actually gonna run shit here. And it's remarkable
Speaker 5: the contrast between this go around he's only five weeks
Speaker 5: in and his first term, where it's just not the
Speaker 5: same guy. I mean, his his behavior is so one
Speaker 5: hundred and eighty degrees different. Like, if you remember him
Speaker 5: in the first presidential term, he a lot of shit
Speaker 5: to the media, but when it came to sitting down
Speaker 5: with you know, Chuck Schumer or Nancy Pelosi or whoever,
Speaker 5: he's like, we're you know, we're getting along. We're gonna
Speaker 5: it'd be great to work across the aisle. Like he
Speaker 5: really went in the first time, naives all get out
Speaker 5: and he was just like, Yeah, we're gonna be able
Speaker 5: to work with the Democrats, We're gonna be able to
Speaker 5: work with the swamp monster GOP. And this go around
Speaker 5: he's like, oh no, no, no, you can't work with any
Speaker 5: of those people. You have to do everything that you
Speaker 5: can via executive order and then use whatever leverage you
Speaker 5: have to force their hand to do the rest of
Speaker 5: it via congressional actions. Like he gets it now, and
Speaker 5: he's like, oh, am, I gonna put in some you know,
Speaker 5: someone that Mike Pompeo recommended, or Bill Barr, you know, like, no,
Speaker 5: I'm going with fucking Bongino and Cash Hotel and uh
Speaker 5: An RFK Junior. You know, he's just he's just really
Speaker 5: learned the game a little bit, a lot of bit,
Speaker 5: and I think that the you know the the proof
Speaker 5: is in the pudding, like what he's actually the outcomes
Speaker 5: from his first five weeks demonstrate that he really does
Speaker 5: understand it a much deeper level. I do want to
Speaker 5: talk briefly about the Epstein situation. Let's see this Tucker
Speaker 5: cross and doing what he does best tell the truth
Speaker 5: about the Epstein case.
Speaker 9: Bottom line is, Jeffrey Epstein was murdered, and not only murdered,
Speaker 9: but he was murdered in the most secure federal lockup
Speaker 9: in mid towm Manhattan.
Speaker 8: In the country.
Speaker 9: Okay, not just in federal lockup, but in the most
Speaker 9: secure part of federal lockup.
Speaker 8: So how did that happen?
Speaker 9: While he was clearly murdered by another inmate, You can't
Speaker 9: get any answers to who the other eight inmates on
Speaker 9: his block were. There was no investigation into his death.
Speaker 9: They've never released it. And the Attorney general at the time,
Speaker 9: Attorney General bar clearly knew that this happened. And I've
Speaker 9: said that in public, and he's attacked me for saying that,
Speaker 9: But it's.
Speaker 8: Just just a fact. He'd lied about it. And so
Speaker 8: what is that?
Speaker 5: What is that?
Speaker 9: Think about that for a minute, And I don't know
Speaker 9: the I mean, there's a lot I don't know, and
Speaker 9: I don't pretend.
Speaker 8: I don't pretend to understand really anything.
Speaker 9: I don't understand anything, but I know ying when I
Speaker 9: see it, and they're lying about Jeffrey Epstein. And if
Speaker 9: they're not, where's the investigation then there hasn't been one?
Speaker 8: And so that's pretty heavy, dude. Where are the tapes?
Speaker 8: Where are the Epstein tapes?
Speaker 9: You know, it was so funny they released a tape
Speaker 9: A guy I know actually released a tape of Jeffrey
Speaker 9: Epstein talking about Donald Trump and saying we were friends
Speaker 9: once and I don't like Trump. And okay, this was
Speaker 9: like the October surprise was to derail Trump, and everyone's
Speaker 9: how can you do that? And I thought, I'm so
Speaker 9: glad they're doing that. So let's talk about Jeffrey Epstein,
Speaker 9: Like where the video tapes from his home in New Mexico,
Speaker 9: from his Caribbean island, from his place on Fifth Avenue.
Speaker 9: There are all these videotapes now, you know, in federal hands.
Speaker 9: Why can't we see those? And we can't see them
Speaker 9: of course because there's like a massive blackmail operation run
Speaker 9: by various intel agencies designed to put famous people under
Speaker 9: the control of governments. Of course that's what it was, obviously,
Speaker 9: and everyone knows that, but no one can say anything
Speaker 9: about it. And as a friend of mine said, we
Speaker 9: were talking with us one night and he goes, no,
Speaker 9: kind of if you think about it, like, if you're
Speaker 9: able to kill somebody in the secure block in federal
Speaker 9: lock up in Manhattan and get away with it, probably
Speaker 9: not someone you want to dick around with, Like, that's
Speaker 9: a powerful force. And that's a fair point, but it's
Speaker 9: still worth saying out loud because it's worth living in
Speaker 9: a transparent, honest country.
Speaker 8: It's bad to have rot like that.
Speaker 9: It's bad to have crimes like that can committed in
Speaker 9: front of our faces.
Speaker 8: We can't do anything about it.
Speaker 9: It makes everyone feel impotent, It makes everyone paranoid, It
Speaker 9: makes everyone feel like nothing's on the level. We wind
Speaker 9: up with a society where no one believes anything, and
Speaker 9: I feel like that's where we are. The number of
Speaker 9: people I know who are like, wow, I become a
Speaker 9: really deranged conspiracy theorist who doesn't believe in the moon landing.
Speaker 9: I must know one hundred people who said that to
Speaker 9: me in the last two years. This is and trust me.
Speaker 9: If you don't feel that way, you're just not admitting it.
Speaker 9: Because you do feel that way if you're paying attention,
Speaker 9: and that's a bad way to feel. I don't think
Speaker 9: you don't want a country like that. You want a
Speaker 9: country where things are pretty much what they seem to be,
Speaker 9: where people are honest, they're straightforward. When they make a
Speaker 9: terrible mistake, they admit it. You want a country that
Speaker 9: is like the family that you have or want to have,
Speaker 9: where people are just direct with each other and kind
Speaker 9: to each other, and not everything is some crazy, multi
Speaker 9: layered deception designed to you know, screw you or kill
Speaker 9: Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 8: Like that's so dark.
Speaker 5: And I know a lot of people think that I've
Speaker 5: jumped to conclusions on the Epstein case. I mean, most
Speaker 5: of you agree with me, but some of you think
Speaker 5: that I've jumped to conclusions. Look, it was Alex Acosta,
Speaker 5: the US attorney or Florida Attorney general. I think maybe
Speaker 5: it wasn't the attorney general. Anyways, he was an attorney
Speaker 5: out of Florida, and he was prosecuting the Epstein case
Speaker 5: and he was told, according to him, that he needed
Speaker 5: to let it go because quote Epstein was attached to intelligence.
Speaker 5: Now does a cost to know which intelligence agencies? I
Speaker 5: bet he does?
Speaker 8: Do I know?
Speaker 5: Which? No? I don't. He didn't say, but the fact
Speaker 5: that he was involved in the prosecution of Epstein back
Speaker 5: in the two thousands and was to back off because
Speaker 5: he was essentially an FBI informant, which there's other documentation
Speaker 5: that say that. I think that that Tucker and I
Speaker 5: and most people are making the proper assessment that yeah,
Speaker 5: that's what he was. He was attached to the FBI
Speaker 5: and probably other intelligencies, particularly given his clientele Prince Andrew
Speaker 5: and all these other people. It's like, you think that
Speaker 5: was just FBI operation. I kind of doubt it, kind
Speaker 5: of dot it. What about his partner, Ghislie Maxwell, who
Speaker 5: was her father, oh, Robert Maxwell. So I can't I
Speaker 5: can't possibly assume that if he we already know pretty
Speaker 5: factually that he was actually an FBI asset, that he's
Speaker 5: probably an asset from Asade too, Like, can we can
Speaker 5: we connect that dot? Or am I going too far?
Speaker 5: Come on? Like I have to, I have to connect
Speaker 5: dots because I don't know factually, but like these are
Speaker 5: obvious dots to connect. Pretty fucking obvious. So I'm just
Speaker 5: very appreciative of Tucker Carlson for being to tell what
Speaker 5: I think is some obvious truths or some obvious, uh,
Speaker 5: you know, questions that need to be asked. And I
Speaker 5: think this is why there was such outrage at Pam
Speaker 5: Bondi yesterday and today, and this story kind of got
Speaker 5: buried as a consequence of the Trump vance versus Lensky
Speaker 5: moment the showdown. But I just want to kind of
Speaker 5: recap why I think people are so passionate about this
Speaker 5: and why they're so angry with Bondi. Well, first off,
Speaker 5: you know, it's a new guard. Like our expectations is
Speaker 5: that you guys ran on day one disclosures. Cash Ptell
Speaker 5: in particular said that repeatedly. I think Bondi said she
Speaker 5: would release it, you know, very early on, and it's
Speaker 5: not day one, and it's not disclosures, and you decided
Speaker 5: to put it into a binder with ninety eight percent
Speaker 5: of it, which was already public knowledge, and most of
Speaker 5: the stuff that was already in the public domain was
Speaker 5: actually redacted even more than what most of us have
Speaker 5: already seen, so like it was less information than we
Speaker 5: already have. So you gave us negative new information. Approximately,
Speaker 5: you put it into a binder, and you don't even
Speaker 5: give it to the public. You don't put it online.
Speaker 5: You don't just release the entire treasure trove of documents.
Speaker 5: You hand it over to a bunch of conservative influencers
Speaker 5: for them to then pedal it to their followers and
Speaker 5: to I guess soft sell it as like this is great.
Speaker 5: And on top of that, you then have many of
Speaker 5: these influencers put out almost verbatim posts announcing it, and
Speaker 5: one of the main things they say is most transparent
Speaker 5: administration in American history or most transparent white houser. I
Speaker 5: forget you know exactly what it was, but almost all
Speaker 5: of them are not almost all many of them say
Speaker 5: it similarly, and two of them say it like almost verbatim,
Speaker 5: like two words off and multiple paragraphs. It looked terrible.
Speaker 5: It looked terrible. And I know many of these influencers.
Speaker 5: I've met like half of them, some of them I
Speaker 5: even would consider friends. And there's no ill will. I'm
Speaker 5: just saying, if you're if you're trying to represent yourself
Speaker 5: a turning over a new leaf, this is this is
Speaker 5: the most transparent white house in American history. Well, the
Speaker 5: way you do that is you actually be transparent. I know, crazy.
Speaker 5: You're not gonna be able to just have influencers convince
Speaker 5: us of that. Like, the whole reason that the Maga
Speaker 5: Maha Libertarian Alliance exists is because we don't trust any
Speaker 5: of you fucking people. And just because we many of us,
Speaker 5: voted for you, does not mean that we trust you.
Speaker 5: Quite the contrary, we do not. We trust your actions
Speaker 5: when your actions aligned with your words and your words
Speaker 5: align with our values. And if you can do that,
Speaker 5: then yes, you will continue to build trust with us.
Speaker 5: But there is no trust as of now. And the
Speaker 5: reason that people are so upset is well, first off,
Speaker 5: the Epstein case is atrocious. It's one of the worst
Speaker 5: things most people have ever heard of. Most people thought
Speaker 5: it was a conspiracy theory, even though there was already
Speaker 5: proof that it was true. If you were to bring
Speaker 5: it up five ten years ago, people thought you were
Speaker 5: nuts because they were like, that's so horrific, there's no
Speaker 5: way that's true. So most people have already bridged that divide,
Speaker 5: they've already gone over the chasm to the point of like,
Speaker 5: oh my god, this did happen, Holy shit, And now
Speaker 5: they're in the position of thinking, oh my god, this
Speaker 5: did happen and only Epsteine and Maxwell were held to account.
Speaker 5: What the fuck? And then on top of that, you
Speaker 5: have the guy getting whacked it looks like in a
Speaker 5: top security prison in New York and no one cares
Speaker 5: and there's no investigation, and you're just supposed to be
Speaker 5: cool with that. You have Ghisli Maxwell on the hook,
Speaker 5: which she only got twenty years, by the way, which
Speaker 5: seems extraordinarily low. But you don't use her as leverage,
Speaker 5: as you know, negotiate her testifying against her client, tele
Speaker 5: her funding sources, all of the billionaires that she was
Speaker 5: working with or for the intell agencies don't now Why
Speaker 5: don't you? Well, I think because she was doing work
Speaker 5: for you guys, and you probably just threatened her to
Speaker 5: get her to shut up. You have a pretty imminent
Speaker 5: threat that you can demonstrate to her. Look what happened
Speaker 5: to your buddy Epstein. So all of this, and you
Speaker 5: have this new presidential cabinet come in, all of the
Speaker 5: making extraordinary promises when it comes to these disclosures, and
Speaker 5: we get nothing, and it's handled terribly, and I know
Speaker 5: much of it was accidentally handled terribly because the influencers
Speaker 5: didn't even know they were gonna get these binders. So
Speaker 5: I'm not really trying to dunk on the influencer side
Speaker 5: of this thing. I'm more trying to dunk on the
Speaker 5: Bondi and Petel side of this thing, because you all
Speaker 5: made the promises. Bondi the night before, actually went on
Speaker 5: Jesse Waters show on Fox News and said, yeah, what
Speaker 5: he did was atrocious, and we've got a bunch of
Speaker 5: the documents and we're gonna be releasing them tomorrow. It's
Speaker 5: been on my desk for a week, and YadA YadA.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Then the next day you hand these binders out to
Speaker 5: these influencers while simultaneously writing a letter to Cash Betel saying, hey,
Speaker 5: it's the Southern District, New York FBI office has withheld
Speaker 5: thousands of documents from the Epstein case. So when you
Speaker 5: were on with Waters, you either lied or you spoke
Speaker 5: out of ignorance that in fact you did not have
Speaker 5: the information. So my best case scenario at this point
Speaker 5: is that essentially you just were talking out of your
Speaker 5: ass that you probably had an underling that was handling this,
Speaker 5: and you realize too late that you didn't have the like.
Speaker 5: There was no there was no fireworks in this thing.
Speaker 5: There was no actual disclosures. But more than anything, and
Speaker 5: I think most people that are in this, you know,
Speaker 5: in my camp, feel the same way, is that I'm
Speaker 5: not really worried about the disclosures, and I'm not really
Speaker 5: significantly worried about the timelines of the disclosures. What I'm
Speaker 5: most worried about is that where is the fucking handcuffs?
Speaker 8: Pam.
Speaker 5: So if what you're telling me is true, which, as
Speaker 5: I said, I'm gonna try and give you the benefit
Speaker 5: of doubt and say maybe it is. Maybe the Southern
Speaker 5: District in New York FPI office did withhold thousands of
Speaker 5: Epstein documents despite the fact that you ordered them to
Speaker 5: be delivered to you. Then why in God's name did
Speaker 5: you not seize their building this morning? Instead you write
Speaker 5: a letter saying you have until eight am to give
Speaker 5: me these documents. From what I've heard so far, didn't
Speaker 5: happen today. So they called your bluff. And what'd you
Speaker 5: do as a consocle or what'd you do as a response?
Speaker 5: Nothing that I've seen, I've seen no response at all.
Speaker 5: I actually went online and asked people about it, and
Speaker 5: everyone's telling me the same thing. They don't know what
Speaker 5: the fuck happened. There's nothing. So you gave them a deadline.
Speaker 5: The deadline passed. You should have had SWAT team or
Speaker 5: US marshals or somebody ready to go in there and
Speaker 5: seize these documents, seize these their servers, seize everything, arrest
Speaker 5: the people that are obstructing justice. You do nothing. You
Speaker 5: did nothing today. But then I'm seeing reports ag BONDI
Speaker 5: furious with Southern District of New York FBI Field Office
Speaker 5: for not delivering the documents that she required. Well, where's
Speaker 5: the fury, Pam. So as I said, I'm trying to
Speaker 5: trust you. I'm trying to build trust here, but your
Speaker 5: actions aren't meeting your words. And as long as that's
Speaker 5: the case, the trust is going like that, Pew, it's dropping.
Speaker 5: You want my trust, Bill, you gotta actually have your
Speaker 5: actions about your words. It's very simple, and I think
Speaker 5: that's how most people feel. And I'll keep an open mind.
Speaker 5: I'm a very forgiving person. But if I don't see
Speaker 5: purp walks of some of the billionaires that were clients
Speaker 5: of some of the billionaires that were actually funding his
Speaker 5: operation of some of the probably the police or FBI
Speaker 5: agents that were handling his cases that drop them, maybe
Speaker 5: the heads of the FBI prior to your tenure that
Speaker 5: were instructing them to drop these cases. When it has
Speaker 5: to do with child trafficking, you have to hold your
Speaker 5: own accountable. Like the rich the powerful have to be
Speaker 5: held to account. If you want us to believe in
Speaker 5: the justice system in America, that's the only pathway forward.
Speaker 5: And if you don't do that, then don't expect us
Speaker 5: to trust you at all. And you don't deserve to
Speaker 5: be trusted either. And I will make no apologies for that.
Speaker 5: We're talking about massive trafficking of kids. It gets no
Speaker 5: worse than that. I think it's the least we can
Speaker 5: ask for is that you actually prosecute these people. So
Speaker 5: take your time. Take your time. I'm it's been over
Speaker 5: decades that this information has been in the hands of
Speaker 5: the FBI, just so you know, like they've had prosecutions
Speaker 5: all the way back to two thousand and six, so
Speaker 5: fucking almost twenty years now. So it's not as if
Speaker 5: like the clock started taking recently. It's been taking for
Speaker 5: twenty fucking years. So I'll allow it to take a
Speaker 5: little bit longer. But when that bell goes off, I
Speaker 5: better hear some handcuffs clinking. And if I don't, well,
Speaker 5: then you should resign. And honestly, after you didn't seize
Speaker 5: the FBI field office in Southern District and New York today,
Speaker 5: you probably ought to resign anyways. But give you one
Speaker 5: more week, one more week before I totally lose my mind.
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