Speaker 1: You see, something's going to happen.
Speaker 2: What's going to happen?
Speaker 3: Welcome to the Occult Rejects. This episode, we got a
Speaker 3: very very special guest. I'm glad to get this man
Speaker 3: back on. Great dude. I love chatting with him and
Speaker 3: chopping it up. But before we get to the guest,
Speaker 3: let me introduce the other rejects it with us tonight,
Speaker 3: regud Julia from Cosmic Peach.
Speaker 2: What is going on? Julia?
Speaker 4: What's up? I am really excited for this one. I've
Speaker 4: worked with the good doctor a couple of times now
Speaker 4: and it's always a blast. Thanks for having me, of.
Speaker 2: Course, of course, yes it is. And Tyrone, what is
Speaker 2: going on? Sir? Thank you for very much for making
Speaker 2: it again.
Speaker 5: Yep, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 6: So everything, like I said before, you can find me
Speaker 6: on my website rebirth at theWord dot com. I'm excited
Speaker 6: for this year. Thank you appreciating of course, no, thank
Speaker 6: you for joining us, my man. And finally you already
Speaker 6: know what time it is. We got Prometheus lens on here.
Speaker 6: He's about to turn it up to about ninety three
Speaker 6: degrees in this house tonight, So my man, my man, doc,
Speaker 6: please introduce yourself and let everybody know what's up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my name is Justin I got the nickname, you know,
Speaker 1: Doc Brown. I'm the host of the Prometheus Lians podcast
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Speaker 1: you a sign copy. Thanks for having me, Nick, No.
Speaker 2: Of course, thank you.
Speaker 3: And if people haven't heard her already, he's been on
Speaker 3: the show before in the past covering his book. I
Speaker 3: mean he's been on plenty of other people shows as
Speaker 3: well covering that book. Check it out, check the book out,
Speaker 3: and uh yeah, thank you again, Doc. So Uh elongated skulls,
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess, I mean, I think we've all
Speaker 3: probably thought about those, looked into them and stuff. But
Speaker 3: what was it that brought you into, like really looking
Speaker 3: into that, if you don't mind me asking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, the my gateway drug into all the strangeness.
Speaker 1: What was giants?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Yeah, I grew up.
Speaker 1: In church and never heard about these these creatures. And
Speaker 1: then once I become an adult, I started finding people
Speaker 1: on YouTube and uh Apple podcasts and things like that
Speaker 1: talking about these guys, and then that kind of led
Speaker 1: me to Ala Marzouli, and then I started started seeing
Speaker 1: these elongated skulls and I was like, Man, what the
Speaker 1: hell are these things?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 2: That is wild? The giants was like, you get with
Speaker 2: That's that's interesting. Nice. Uh what was it like, is there.
Speaker 3: I mean, uh, was there certain ones like like in
Speaker 3: the United States or were you like focusing on ones
Speaker 3: out of the country or both?
Speaker 2: Like what was it that you started looking at?
Speaker 3: I guess at first that was enough proof to you
Speaker 3: that you thought that these things were legit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my first encounter with them was actually through La Marzouli,
Speaker 1: and he actually got like basically the all star team
Speaker 1: of Christian fringe guys. We're talking about like doctor Aaron Judkins,
Speaker 1: doctor Judd Burton. I'm trying to think, there's just so
Speaker 1: many of them. He just had this mortgage board of
Speaker 1: the fringy fringe guys and they went down there to
Speaker 1: Peru and they met with Brian Forrester and they were
Speaker 1: down there for several months and they just recorded the
Speaker 1: whole thing. And they were allowed to have access to
Speaker 1: the Parrakat skulls down there in Peru, so they actually
Speaker 1: got to hold these things, do castings of them. They
Speaker 1: brought doctors and optometrists, they took DNA samples, just all
Speaker 1: this stuff. They actually just did a really thorough job
Speaker 1: of investigating these skulls. And I just read about it,
Speaker 1: watch some of the documentaries, and then that kind of
Speaker 1: just stemmed out. And the rocket skulls in Peru they
Speaker 1: get all the attention, But honestly, it wasn't until here
Speaker 1: recently that I actually started looking. Man, they're everywhere. There's
Speaker 1: not one country or continent that they have not found
Speaker 1: elongated skulls. Just a you know, a global phenomenon.
Speaker 2: Oh it's really like that.
Speaker 1: Huh yeah.
Speaker 2: So I'll be totally honest with you.
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, you know, I'm roam all the
Speaker 3: time anyway, so I'm used to it.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 2: I wasn't really up until.
Speaker 3: Proably about maybe six or eight months ago, that I
Speaker 3: even contemplate these things, Like I always thought it was bullshit.
Speaker 3: Be totally honest with you, And then I had actually
Speaker 3: a couple of people on that, like you know, like
Speaker 3: their their academic career probably you know, would have been effected.
Speaker 2: If to talk bullshit.
Speaker 3: So like I was just like, you know, I guess this,
Speaker 3: and then I had Heather on in somebody else. I
Speaker 3: think it might have been uh to Gregory Little that
Speaker 3: actually him, and between him and Heather, I was like, yo,
Speaker 3: I guess these things are fucking legit, Like and now
Speaker 3: you're saying like almost every country has them.
Speaker 2: I never knew that. Swear to god, that's fucking wild.
Speaker 2: I didn't know.
Speaker 1: Google started earlier and just kind of looked up some
Speaker 1: like for example, you know, like I said, Peru, they
Speaker 1: get all the attention, but there was a guy named
Speaker 1: Julio Tello in nineteen twenty eight. He found over three
Speaker 1: hundred just in that year alone, and so Peru was
Speaker 1: just littered with them. But they also found them in Bolivia, Chile, Mexico,
Speaker 1: the United States. The Kinokan and Choctaw Indians had elongated
Speaker 1: skulls the Caribbean, Russia, France, Germany, Central Asia, China, the
Speaker 1: Middle East, Africa, Egypt, Polynesia, Papua New Guinea, and there
Speaker 1: was one called the Natu and I may be pronouncing
Speaker 1: that wrong, but it's in the Oceania region. But it
Speaker 1: says that the head binding is still practiced today to
Speaker 1: resemble cultural deities.
Speaker 6: I mean that's what most of them there that, Yeah,
Speaker 6: most of them from my research says that it was
Speaker 6: the guys that had like the elongeco and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: But the headbinding is uh completely like that, Like you
Speaker 4: can tell which skulls are authentic and which skulls have
Speaker 4: been manipulated with headbinding, because it's completely different. I know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Like No, I was just going to say,
Speaker 4: like I think they were trying to emulate what they
Speaker 4: were seeing, and it's it's kind of obvious the ones
Speaker 4: that have been manipulated, But there are organic as Doc
Speaker 4: was saying, it's it's completely organic. Their skulls really were
Speaker 4: elongated and you can see it even in like Egyptian
Speaker 4: hieroglyphics that there were pharaohs who had these huge skulls.
Speaker 4: Said to Charnt and his sister's slash wife or whatever,
Speaker 4: and their child had like these weird fucking prometheus fucking
Speaker 4: weird shaped skulls.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like you said, it's easy to tell which ones
Speaker 1: are from headbinding, because when you go to mainstream academia,
Speaker 1: that's what they try to do. They try to whitewash
Speaker 1: and just broad brush stroke these things and say, oh,
Speaker 1: it's just all from headbinding. And like you said, I
Speaker 1: mean there's tailtale signs because they have like flat spots
Speaker 1: on their head where the boards were pressing against or
Speaker 1: if they used rope, they would have indentions where the
Speaker 1: ropes were. And all the ones that they find that
Speaker 1: are proven from headbinding. There's certain things that just don't change.
Speaker 1: And for instance is all these people that have these
Speaker 1: elongated skulls from headbinding, they all have their Sadritsutra line
Speaker 1: and they found some of these that they're absent. And uh,
Speaker 1: I brought some items for show and tell for you guys.
Speaker 1: I have a replica. I'm one of the prorockets that
Speaker 1: is real.
Speaker 2: I was like, yo, this motherfucker.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It was like.
Speaker 1: And some of the things that La talked about was,
Speaker 1: you know, like I was saying, if you look at this,
Speaker 1: there is no sadre Sutra. And for those that's unfamiliar,
Speaker 1: this is basically like a peace sign on your head.
Speaker 1: You have this line that goes up the center and
Speaker 1: once it gets to the soft cap, it branches off
Speaker 1: into a y. And all the ones they find from
Speaker 1: headbinding still have this Sadre Sutra. But the ones that
Speaker 1: they find that are not from headbinding, they're like this one,
Speaker 1: the Sadre Sutra is missing. And like I said, all
Speaker 1: the ones they find from headbinding, this Sadres Sutra does
Speaker 1: not disappear. So that shows us that this this is genetic.
Speaker 1: And then at the same time, if you look here
Speaker 1: at the front angle the eye orbits, they actually lay
Speaker 1: brought optommetrists with him to study these things, and that's
Speaker 1: basically a fancy word for an eye doctor. And they
Speaker 1: measured these orbits and these are thirty percent larger than
Speaker 1: a normal human school and even the ones proven from headbinding.
Speaker 1: So he said, the optometry said, they're thirty percent larger.
Speaker 1: So therefore the pupils you would have been thirty percent larger.
Speaker 1: In the distance is even closer, he said. So they're
Speaker 1: built like an owl, he said, so, he said, it's
Speaker 1: my opinion. He said that these hybrid race creatures had
Speaker 1: night vision. And when you get into all the lore
Speaker 1: and legends of giants, they were cave dwellers and Another
Speaker 1: example was the ones from headbinding. The brain case volume
Speaker 1: doesn't change, but some of these the brain case volumes
Speaker 1: increased by like fifteen to twenty percent. And another thing
Speaker 1: that's really really fascinating was right here, this is an
Speaker 1: anchor point where the spine comes in. They call it
Speaker 1: the fray foremen mcmagnum or something like that. But see
Speaker 1: this is all the way at the back on a
Speaker 1: normal human skull. They're right here in the center. That
Speaker 1: way you can balance it better. And all the elongated
Speaker 1: skulls from headbitding that we found that anchor point does
Speaker 1: not change. They're all right there, so binding the head
Speaker 1: doesn't change.
Speaker 2: This.
Speaker 1: It's another genetic marker and it was designed specifically to
Speaker 1: counterbalance this huge head because if it wasn't anchored where
Speaker 1: it's at the way we just pulled down, they'd be
Speaker 1: looking at their feet all the time.
Speaker 4: That's incredible. I've heard that some of them the teeth
Speaker 4: are a giveaway to like some of them had double
Speaker 4: rows of teeth or like large larger than normal teeth,
Speaker 4: stuff like that. Have you seen any of those, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I've seen some of the double row teeth also, even
Speaker 1: just like the density of their bone. They said that
Speaker 1: some of these there's just a lot thicker than a
Speaker 1: normal person. And one thing that I really found cool
Speaker 1: when I'll show you this in this book. This is
Speaker 1: elongated skulls in the Paths of Vera Kocha from Brian Forrester.
Speaker 1: And one of the things he talks about too, that
Speaker 1: was genetic with these guys. And I'll show you this picture.
Speaker 1: So you basically have a skull layout and it's got
Speaker 1: all these lines telling you, you know, what is what on
Speaker 1: the skull, And the things that I want to point
Speaker 1: out is there's holes on your cheek bones here here.
Speaker 1: Then you have two at the bottom next to your
Speaker 1: mandible down here at the lower part. And what it
Speaker 1: talks about is in here the ones that they studied
Speaker 1: that were different from the headbinding ones is that they
Speaker 1: had an extra set of holes. And forgive me on
Speaker 1: the pronunciations, because I'm a redneck and i can barely
Speaker 1: speak English. So you get these big fancy words, I'm
Speaker 1: going to struggle. But it talks about it says the
Speaker 1: normal human skull has three pairs of small holes in
Speaker 1: the front, called the foreman and the zygo madico fasciale
Speaker 1: see I told you below and to the outside of
Speaker 1: the eye sockets and the supra orbital just below the
Speaker 1: eye sockets, and the mental foramen in the mandible lower jaw.
Speaker 1: Almost all, if not all, of the elongated skulls of
Speaker 1: Paracus area also have a fourth pair called the parential foreman,
Speaker 1: which is very uncommon in most humans. Goals and basically
Speaker 1: this was at the back of the head, and so
Speaker 1: it's an extra set of holes. And what they've said
Speaker 1: when they studied this, it says when this is present,
Speaker 1: it transmits. It transmits an emissary vein into the serial
Speaker 1: sagital sinus. The superior sitagetal sinus, is a large vein
Speaker 1: found in the human head. This vein travels over the
Speaker 1: top portion of the skull, beginning at the top of
Speaker 1: the skull and moving to the back part of the skull.
Speaker 1: So they believe that this perennial foreman is present in
Speaker 1: the elongated skulls to assist in the blood flow due
Speaker 1: to the norm or sorry, the non normal shape of
Speaker 1: the head, and would be an evolutionary development, So it's
Speaker 1: not just for these heads that is wid.
Speaker 4: So I worked for a surgeon and she did a
Speaker 4: lot of face stuff. And I would like sit and
Speaker 4: look at X rays all the time because X rays
Speaker 4: have come a long way. Those bitches are like three D.
Speaker 4: Now you can see everything. And I would ask her like,
Speaker 4: what are those holes that are in all the skulls?
Speaker 4: And she said nerves and veins. Every body has them.
Speaker 4: And so you're saying they have an extra pair on
Speaker 4: the back. That is absolutely proof to me that this
Speaker 4: is a biological not just like a freak of nature thing.
Speaker 1: All of them have that, all the ones that were
Speaker 1: not natural, or the ones that were natural.
Speaker 4: The ones that weren't manipulated.
Speaker 1: Yes, so it approach its a genetic right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was going to say, so that's like, well,
Speaker 4: what do you think? All right, here's the question of
Speaker 4: the hour? Then what do you think that they were?
Speaker 1: Well with me? You know when people point to the
Speaker 1: headbinding you know, as know, imitating their gods or a
Speaker 1: veneration type thing. You know, I think a lot of
Speaker 1: people forget to ask the why questions, Well, why if
Speaker 1: they are just copying or mimicking something, you know, why
Speaker 1: would they do that? So it had to be something
Speaker 1: really important, because you think they start this. I think
Speaker 1: they said they can't do it till the kids are
Speaker 1: at least a year or two old. That way, that
Speaker 1: soft cap, you know, closes all the way. But so
Speaker 1: imagine you've got a two year old kid and you're
Speaker 1: strapping boards to their head and rope and tying as
Speaker 1: tigh as you can to force this skull to elongate
Speaker 1: and deform. This is extremely painful. You can imagine the
Speaker 1: headaches and the discomfort. I mean, this was not something
Speaker 1: that you just go get knocked out and wake up
Speaker 1: and you get plastic surgery it's fixed now. This is
Speaker 1: something you had to do for years. It was years
Speaker 1: of pain. So it had to be extremely important to them.
Speaker 1: So I tell people I use this modern you know example.
Speaker 1: You know probably what was it maybe ten years ago
Speaker 1: Morgan walland the big Country star broke out and what
Speaker 1: did he do. He cut his hair in the shape
Speaker 1: of the mullet. He brought the mullet back. Well, next thing,
Speaker 1: you know, every kid, their brother and dad has a
Speaker 1: mullet now because they're venerating. They they're emulating this predominant figure.
Speaker 1: So I think that's what's going on here. And when
Speaker 1: you go to like South America, Peru, where these parrocous
Speaker 1: skulls are found. They have all these legends about Quasi
Speaker 1: Kettle and Varicocha, and it says that they were pale skinned, bearded,
Speaker 1: red bearded, elongated skull people that just showed up on
Speaker 1: it said the boat of serpents without rafts or without rows.
Speaker 1: So these this god shows up, and it says that
Speaker 1: he basically gives them the seven Sacred sciences, and if
Speaker 1: you know, the equivalent to that is Genesis six. Spallen
Speaker 1: angels in the book Enoch says that they come down.
Speaker 1: The angels came down Brad with the dollars of men
Speaker 1: and gave them all this forbid knowledge. And that's what
Speaker 1: they'd done here with this Varicocha and Quasi Kettle. That
Speaker 1: they show up and the Vericocha and his lord legend
Speaker 1: he had as a group of followers, and they're called
Speaker 1: the Verkochon. And what do they do? They travel around.
Speaker 1: He civilizes the people of South America, teaches them how
Speaker 1: to do agriculture, make megalithics, architecture and structures and all
Speaker 1: these things. So it kind of mirrors to me that
Speaker 1: whole Genesis six narrative. And honestly, I'll show you in
Speaker 1: this book here too, because he talks about it. That
Speaker 1: Path of Avercocha. They have a list of all of
Speaker 1: the cities in the legend that Vericocha and his verako
Speaker 1: Chun went to and civilized and taught all these things,
Speaker 1: and all those cities are in a straight line path.
Speaker 1: Actually it's like a northwest path across the continent. And
Speaker 1: every single one of those cities that's listed, that's what
Speaker 1: they call the Path of Vericocua. But without fail, every
Speaker 1: single one of those cities has huge megalithic architecture structures
Speaker 1: and elongated schools out the wazoo. And when the South
Speaker 1: American or when the Spanish showed up, they documented in
Speaker 1: some of their journals that they noticed this fair skin,
Speaker 1: red haired, elongated skull people walking amongst them, and they
Speaker 1: were obviously different. You know, South American people are dark
Speaker 1: skinned and they can't hardly grow a beard. So the
Speaker 1: Spanish was like, who are these people? And all the
Speaker 1: locals said, these are descendants of the very coaching. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, my opinion is you were legend these were
Speaker 1: falling angels.
Speaker 4: Well, so I believe that they actually were supernatural too.
Speaker 4: Not only did they have like a different bone structure
Speaker 4: and everything. But I do believe that they were mistaken
Speaker 4: to be gods because they had like a supernatural aspect
Speaker 4: to them. I don't know if you subscribe to that,
Speaker 4: but I believe they were able to do something that
Speaker 4: made these people think, oh my God, these people need
Speaker 4: to be worshiped.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, yeah, one hundred percent, because I mean, when
Speaker 1: you read that narrative in Genesis six, in the Book
Speaker 1: of Enoch, they said they traded their first estate, so
Speaker 1: they come down and took fleshly form, and if you know,
Speaker 1: we take that at face value, they showed up and
Speaker 1: they had divine knowledge. You know, they had a lot
Speaker 1: of scientific advancements and things. They were doing. All these
Speaker 1: things to these primitive people and to them, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, these were magical. These were just amazing things.
Speaker 1: So they worshiped them as gods. And that's why a
Speaker 1: lot of people talk about the Spanish when they come
Speaker 1: and invaded South America. They just took over so easily,
Speaker 1: because the legend of Arracocia and Quasi Kettle is that
Speaker 1: they left on the boats of serpents just like they came,
Speaker 1: but they said that they would return and when they did,
Speaker 1: they would return at a time that they needed them,
Speaker 1: and they would do all these things. So when the
Speaker 1: Spanish showed up, they showed up on these large boats.
Speaker 1: They were pale skinned, bearded men, and they had on
Speaker 1: this silver armor that was just glistening in the sun.
Speaker 1: They thought that this was the return of Aracocha and
Speaker 1: his vera coach un. So when they came, they worshiped them,
Speaker 1: brought them gold and silver and food and all this stuff.
Speaker 1: So the Spanish just kind of went along with it.
Speaker 1: They's like, hell, we can take over this whole country
Speaker 1: and get all the riches without even having to fight them.
Speaker 1: We'll just go along with it.
Speaker 3: Real quick. Just you know, we stopped for a second.
Speaker 3: Ten would you like to introduce you so far? I'm
Speaker 3: so sorry about that too. I forgot to send out
Speaker 3: the link so you relate.
Speaker 5: Well, that's okay.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Tim Constantine's sixth Century podcast had to jump on.
Speaker 7: Talk to my boy Doc Brown here and I'll let
Speaker 7: him continue.
Speaker 1: Happy to be here, Yeah, I see if you come in.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, we got another tenth boy, and
Speaker 1: here a couple of rednecks.
Speaker 6: Now talk.
Speaker 3: You're in Tennessee too, Yeah, yeah, shit.
Speaker 7: Where they were finding a lot of the stuff that
Speaker 7: Doc's talking about. Hm, it's not in the history books.
Speaker 2: But how far away for you from Nashville? I'm in
Speaker 2: I know you are. How far away you talk?
Speaker 1: I'm at the very far eastern tip. I'm almost but
Speaker 1: I'm butted up right against North Carolina, like an hour
Speaker 1: from Ashville.
Speaker 2: Dude, you're so close to me. What the fuck.
Speaker 1: We have to get together sometimes?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 2: No, no, for really yeah yeah, even Tyrone is like
Speaker 2: right over here too. Holy shit. Yeah, I'm about like
Speaker 2: four hours away from Ashville. I think four and a
Speaker 2: half hours away.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I'm about one hour.
Speaker 4: I'm on the other side of the planet, so I
Speaker 4: guess I can't come to the meet up. I didn't
Speaker 4: know that they found elongated schools in Tennessee though. That's interesting.
Speaker 4: I know there's like mounds and stuff and like a
Speaker 4: lot of the son.
Speaker 7: I don't know about elongated skulls. I should have, you know,
Speaker 7: I should have said that a little bit better. I
Speaker 7: was more talking about giants.
Speaker 4: No, just like full on skeletons. Yeah they have elongated
Speaker 4: skulls or are they just big motherfuckers with like regular skulls?
Speaker 7: Well, you know. I mean, I don't know, doc like
Speaker 7: I'm sure Fritz Zimmerman would have something to say about that.
Speaker 7: But the Giant records that I've looked at, I don't
Speaker 7: remember the skulls being mentioned, but the bones were big, right,
Speaker 7: like seven foot seven footers. And you've got the Tennessee
Speaker 7: little people too, So you've got like a whole Narnia
Speaker 7: situation going on where they were finding like real small
Speaker 7: and that's interesting too. It's like that's well documented too,
Speaker 7: like White County, Tennessee, Sparta, Tennessee. These farmers were finding
Speaker 7: all these little people, but you know, counter that you
Speaker 7: also had giants too, So that's what I was more
Speaker 7: talking about, all kinds of weird.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I mentioned before you came on, but
Speaker 1: i'd found where was it he scroll up that the
Speaker 1: Chinnokin and the chicktaw Indians that they had found elongated
Speaker 1: skulls amongst those tribes of people. That was something I
Speaker 1: just recently found out. But I was gonna show you
Speaker 1: these two. Doctor Aaron Judkins, he was one of the
Speaker 1: guys I mentioned earlier that went down to Peru and
Speaker 1: actually held these skulls and investigated them and done castings
Speaker 1: of them and stuff. And I found in LA's book
Speaker 1: that he give Aaron a section to give his notes
Speaker 1: and thoughts on the skulls and what he thought about
Speaker 1: them and all this kind of stuff. But in there
Speaker 1: he actually had hand drawn diagrams of these elongated skulls,
Speaker 1: and he had calipers and all the measurement tools and
Speaker 1: measured everything to the eye orbits to the braincare volume,
Speaker 1: all this stuff. But he had hand drawn all those
Speaker 1: on some drafting paper and wrote down all the measurements.
Speaker 1: And I'm friends with Judgkins, so I emailed him and
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, man, I seen your drawings of
Speaker 1: the elongated goals in LA's book. Do you still happen
Speaker 1: to have those? And he was like, yeah, I still
Speaker 1: got them. I was like, man, would you care to
Speaker 1: like scan them for me and send them to me.
Speaker 1: I'd love to decorate them and photoshop them up and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. So he ended up sending them to
Speaker 1: me and I just kind of put them on some
Speaker 1: like a background like look like old scroll or something.
Speaker 1: But he sent me three different ones and it's got
Speaker 1: all the measurements and stuff on that. They're pretty cool,
Speaker 1: and uh, I'm going to Spiracycon. Uh it's the third
Speaker 1: week in August. It's in Cave City, Kentucky. And uh,
Speaker 1: doctor Anon Jenkins is actually going to that event too.
Speaker 1: So I asked him, I said, would you mind, I said,
Speaker 1: if I printed these on card stock, you know, I said,
Speaker 1: and sold them at Conspiracy Con. I said, if you'll
Speaker 1: sign them for me, I said, we can split some
Speaker 1: of the sales on it. So he done that. So
Speaker 1: I'm actually bringing these to Spiracy Con for doctor An
Speaker 1: Jenkins to sign it to sell at the conference. So
Speaker 1: if anybody is in the Cave City, Kentucky area, come
Speaker 1: check out Spiracy Con. Man, it's gonna be a real
Speaker 1: good time. But John Pounders from now you see TV's
Speaker 1: putting it on and he's just got an all star
Speaker 1: lineup of people that's going to be there. Should be
Speaker 1: a real fun weekend.
Speaker 7: He's been in the g for a while too, right.
Speaker 7: Pounder says, like he was talking about giants and watchers
Speaker 7: and all that back before, a lot of people were Yeah.
Speaker 4: I didn't know Kentucky was so hip. I thought it
Speaker 4: was hey. And I'm not saying anything because I lived
Speaker 4: in Kentucky for like fifteen years. My family's from Kentucky.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I wish I was closer because I would go,
Speaker 4: that sounds like a great time.
Speaker 2: What is that.
Speaker 1: It's the third weekend of this month. Oh damn in
Speaker 1: Cave City, Kentucky. I think it's like the twenty second
Speaker 1: I think. But another thing to us go to show you, guys,
Speaker 1: And I try to show references on all the stuff
Speaker 1: that I talk about, because I'm not some genius. I
Speaker 1: just I read a lot, and I take people's puzzle
Speaker 1: pieces and put them together.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 1: So I had some stuff from Brian Forster's book that
Speaker 1: I had mentioned, and this one is Ala Marzouli's book,
Speaker 1: and I think he charges like sixty bucks for this book.
Speaker 1: But this thing's almost as stick as a bible, and
Speaker 1: it's just jam packed full of information, full color photos
Speaker 1: on all the pages, and he's basically compiled all of
Speaker 1: his years of work on the giants and elongated s
Speaker 1: goals in this one book. So it's really fascinating. But
Speaker 1: one of the ones that with these elongated skulls that
Speaker 1: is probably the most fascinating enigma of all is this
Speaker 1: skeleton that they deemed wiki. And I don't know if
Speaker 1: any of you guys have heard of that name or
Speaker 1: if you're familiar with that skeleton or not. But it
Speaker 1: almost looks like a freaking alien. And they actually put
Speaker 1: a picture up of this thing beside of an alien
Speaker 1: like as a comparison, Jesus. So it's just got all
Speaker 1: the features of this other guy. It's got the large
Speaker 1: orbits and everything else. But what's really crazy about it
Speaker 1: is this thing in total height. Now, this was a
Speaker 1: full skeleton, guys, This just wasn't the head, but its
Speaker 1: total height was nineteen point six eight inches. And here's
Speaker 1: the actual picture of this mummy. So if you notice
Speaker 1: the soft cap is still open, right, Oh, and it's
Speaker 1: you know, nineteen and a half inches long. But look
Speaker 1: at the teeth. It's got molars. And this was proven
Speaker 1: to be a small child because even the soft cap
Speaker 1: is open.
Speaker 4: So this is this is a baby along end.
Speaker 1: Yes, baby, Look the baby has molars, bro as freaking molars.
Speaker 4: That means that baby was snacking on some hot ass
Speaker 4: at some point, like that dengated skull. Motherfucker's ate meat
Speaker 4: from birth.
Speaker 1: That's a pretty crazy man. In one of the doctor's notes,
Speaker 1: he said, he said it is a strange being of
Speaker 1: fifty centimeters tall, deformed head. The front and nail is
Speaker 1: still open, however, has molars, the orbits of the eyes
Speaker 1: are very large and have a lower jaw with two bumps,
Speaker 1: and it says this is not a dwarf, that their
Speaker 1: bones are at the end and small.
Speaker 4: Can I just ask you something really quick? Why do
Speaker 4: you think they're always finding the skulls and not the
Speaker 4: rest of the body.
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Right, that is a good question, Like why is.
Speaker 4: It a bunch of heads everywhere and no bodies to
Speaker 4: be found?
Speaker 1: Well, this and the wiki it's the full body.
Speaker 4: But it's just that's like a rare that's that's a
Speaker 4: really rare find, you know what I mean, because most
Speaker 4: of the time when they dig these bitches up, it's
Speaker 4: just the skulls. And it makes you wonder like did
Speaker 4: they all get decapitated in some type of like siege
Speaker 4: on the giants or you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 4: where's the body?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, see, a lot of them theorized that they
Speaker 1: that this was kind of like a skull cult top
Speaker 1: veneration thing, that they would take these skulls of the
Speaker 1: dead ancestors and put them, you know, in temples around
Speaker 1: in these about rock faces and kind of venerate them.
Speaker 1: I was talking with Derek Olsen and he said down
Speaker 1: there that he talked to some of the locals and
Speaker 1: that they had legends and things that their kings and
Speaker 1: had these elongated skulls. They would take their skulls and
Speaker 1: place them ceremonial, ceremonially in some of these rock faces
Speaker 1: that are cut out in squares on certain dates and things.
Speaker 1: And they said that when the moon on a certain
Speaker 1: day shined on these skulls, they believed that they were
Speaker 1: venerating and resurrecting the dead giant kings. And then also
Speaker 1: you have the Cicaras, yeah, and the Siicaras. I think
Speaker 1: that's what their names are. But it's basically that the
Speaker 1: grave robbers of South America. That's how ninety percent of
Speaker 1: these skulls are found. The grave robbers go in and
Speaker 1: illegally dig out these graves and were South America is
Speaker 1: such a hot, dry climate climate, it actually preserves the
Speaker 1: bones really well, and so they take the is and
Speaker 1: that the skulls is what everybody's fascinated with. So if
Speaker 1: they dig up this body, they just snap the head
Speaker 1: off and take it to a black market to sell
Speaker 1: because they know that's what everybody's interested in, is these
Speaker 1: elongated skulls.
Speaker 8: Doc.
Speaker 7: You said something about them venerating their ancestors, and I
Speaker 7: think that there's something to that because I've been looking
Speaker 7: into some of the old Canaanite tribes and some of
Speaker 7: the Canaanite temples and some of the things you find
Speaker 7: over there in the Middle East to do with this.
Speaker 7: Essentially it's a cult, and this cult, say, seem to
Speaker 7: be interested in just that venerating their ancestors to a
Speaker 7: point where, I mean, it kind of reminded me of
Speaker 7: Star Wars, where you have the Jedis that die and
Speaker 7: they come back as like the spirits that help the
Speaker 7: living Jedi. It seems like some of these Canaanites that
Speaker 7: was part of their religion was literally talking to I
Speaker 7: don't know if they really were or not, but they
Speaker 7: seem to believe that they were talking to their asters,
Speaker 7: who were like giants as well, giant priest kings.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And another one too is like go Beckley tape,
Speaker 1: doctor Aaron Judkins talking about him once again. He studied
Speaker 1: that place and wrote a book about it, and he
Speaker 1: was even talking about that's not like in the mainstream news.
Speaker 1: But if you search it up, you can find it
Speaker 1: that the people that built go Beckley Tape were into
Speaker 1: skull cult veneration. That they at the site they had
Speaker 1: dug up skull caps and they had drilled holes, fine
Speaker 1: holes through them to like string them up and hang
Speaker 1: them up inside of those stone circles and stuff. So
Speaker 1: it was another type of skull cult veneration.
Speaker 4: They all have structures honoring serious two So have you
Speaker 4: did have? I mean, however you guys feel about him
Speaker 4: as the Nassau not But Graham Hancock has talked a
Speaker 4: lot of about these places. Go Beckley Tepe giants on Malta,
Speaker 4: like anywhere there's megalithic structures, there's temples, and the structures
Speaker 4: aligned with serious legends about giants, legends about people coming
Speaker 4: up out of nowhere teaching them animal husbandry, architecture, everything.
Speaker 4: Some of them have elongated skulls, some of them are
Speaker 4: just giants. But it's literally in every single ancient culture,
Speaker 4: serious giants, gods coming up from out of nowhere and
Speaker 4: teaching them how to do shit. And it just is
Speaker 4: interesting to me because until you find the skulls, they're
Speaker 4: just stories. But then after you find the skulls and
Speaker 4: the skeletons. It's like, are they just stories though, because
Speaker 4: now we got bones.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, yeah, as you've got stories then, Like I said,
Speaker 1: I listed a bunch of those countries and continents, you
Speaker 1: find those elongated skulls everywhere. Every culture has stories of giants,
Speaker 1: and no matter where you go, there's just too many
Speaker 1: stories that rhyme Uh. I mentioned South America they talk
Speaker 1: about Viracocha and quasi kettle. Uh. The North American tribes,
Speaker 1: the Indians talk about the star people came down, stole
Speaker 1: the women and bred with the women. Uh, gave them
Speaker 1: all this knowledge and technology. Then they also have stories
Speaker 1: of the red haired, six fingered giants that they battled
Speaker 1: with and tried to push them out of their lands.
Speaker 1: You go across the ocean, you have the same thing,
Speaker 1: the Genesis six narrative and the giants over there.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Like you mentioned earlier, Julia, all the depictions of Egyptian
Speaker 1: kings and queens and princes with these elongated skulls. And
Speaker 1: there's another similar story that a lot of people don't realize,
Speaker 1: but it's and Graham Hancock talked about it. I can't
Speaker 1: remember the name of that temple now, but some temple
Speaker 1: they found. And there was the story of the dow
Speaker 1: Watt and the first time, and there was a story
Speaker 1: in there about Osiris and that he basically got tired
Speaker 1: of the kingship, stepped down and loaded on a boat
Speaker 1: with a bunch of his servants and went out to
Speaker 1: civilize the world, to teach them how to grow crops
Speaker 1: and do all these things. So there's another story, just
Speaker 1: like the Vera Kochin and so many others, and even
Speaker 1: the same thing with the what is it the Samerian
Speaker 1: King's list when you go through the king's list. I
Speaker 1: can't remember the guy's name now, but he's like the
Speaker 1: third or fourth one. He was one of the god kings.
Speaker 1: Same thing missed down, wouldn't Gilgamesh. It was somebody before him,
Speaker 1: But he had stepped down from the king ship. He
Speaker 1: didn't die. He stepped down and handed it over to
Speaker 1: his son because he was going to civilize the world.
Speaker 5: Which one is that is it annual inky or in
Speaker 5: them now?
Speaker 1: It wouldn't a god. He was just a king that
Speaker 1: was on this Samerian King's list. I want to say
Speaker 1: it's h is Key and Gasher I think, and he
Speaker 1: stepped down, and I think he handed it off to
Speaker 1: in mark R, And I think that is who a
Speaker 1: lot of people align with nimrod Is in mark R
Speaker 1: because in the legends in Marker was considered the great builder.
Speaker 1: And it said that he built this tower. And there's
Speaker 1: actually letters that they found corresponding tablets between Uh in
Speaker 1: mark Or and Lord of Rata, and so it was
Speaker 1: tying this Lord of Rata with the mountains of air Rat.
Speaker 1: And in these letters, he's basically Uh writing on these
Speaker 1: tablets as sending it all the way up there to
Speaker 1: the Ararat mountains to this king, and he's asking for
Speaker 1: his help and building this grand tower. And he says, basically,
Speaker 1: I know you're this grand architect and you have all
Speaker 1: these nice cedars up here. I'm trying to build this
Speaker 1: magnificent tower to a Nanah and hopes that she will
Speaker 1: embrace me there and asking for this Lord of Rata's help.
Speaker 1: And this Lord of Rata sends a letter back. It
Speaker 1: was like, you know, that's great, Well, what uses that
Speaker 1: to me? So he's basically denying to help him, and
Speaker 1: that they have this war and everything. So a lot
Speaker 1: of people theorize that this n marker was Nimrod, and
Speaker 1: the lord of Rata was either Noah or want of
Speaker 1: Noah's descendants because he still had the pre flood knowledge
Speaker 1: and was a great builder because he just they built
Speaker 1: the arc.
Speaker 7: What do you think in Nana's role was there?
Speaker 1: It was just one of those She was the queen
Speaker 1: of Heaven and you have those stories she's tied in
Speaker 1: so closely with with Gilgamesh and Inky do in those stories,
Speaker 1: you know, is what was it the Epica Gilgamesh. She
Speaker 1: becomes so infatuated with Gilgamesh, she tries to take him
Speaker 1: as a husband and he rejects her, and he kind
Speaker 1: of throws it in her face. He's like, every man
Speaker 1: you love winds up dead or you betray him. So
Speaker 1: now I don't want no part of that or offended.
Speaker 1: And that's when she goes and talks to her father
Speaker 1: in Lyons, like, you know, he's just insulted me, and
Speaker 1: now he's rejected me. I want you to send a
Speaker 1: bull of heaven and kill them all. And so him
Speaker 1: and Inky do tag team and kill this bull of Heaven.
Speaker 1: And what's funny is if she was embarrassed before the
Speaker 1: way the story goes, she come out even worse because
Speaker 1: inky Do takes the bloody thigh the bull and smacks
Speaker 1: her in the face with it.
Speaker 7: Text you know, it's so funny, and I'll be like
Speaker 7: even like the docks, like Doc's on point with this
Speaker 7: whole annt of thing, and like she even wanted to him.
Speaker 7: One of the texts I read talked about how an
Speaker 7: honor Ishtar wanted Gilgamesh to go up and through the
Speaker 7: sky with her, and he was like he declined because
Speaker 7: he's like the men who go up and this guy
Speaker 7: with you never return. And I just think that that's
Speaker 7: so interesting when you see these kings like having some
Speaker 7: sort of veneration or relationship with this entity. And Nonna
Speaker 7: ishtar Aphrodity, whatever name she goes by, she goes by
Speaker 7: different names, you know, And like, I don't want to
Speaker 7: rehash something that I just talked about on a podcast elsewhere,
Speaker 7: but I did just cover a story where there's some
Speaker 7: of nebue Kenezra's old writings where he's talking about his
Speaker 7: love for Ishtar and how his istar would come to
Speaker 7: his wife in a dream and give them messages like
Speaker 7: messages for the kingdom, and beyond that, even like he
Speaker 7: was trying to work with her in a way to
Speaker 7: where he would get uh, he would be he would
Speaker 7: deify like he wouldn't. He didn't want to die like
Speaker 7: a mortal. He wanted to deify. And Nimrod comes to
Speaker 7: mind there, right, is that the right one? Doc the
Speaker 7: u became a gilberin.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, in the Book of Genesis says that Nimrod
Speaker 1: becomes a gibble Reem and with gilgameshion that's the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Is like when Annana was so impressed they just killed Humbaba,
Speaker 1: that this monster of the forests of what was it
Speaker 1: next to Mount Hermon? And they called it that mountain
Speaker 1: was the home of the Annaki. And according to the Bible,
Speaker 1: you know where uh, the angels, the fallen angels came
Speaker 1: down was on Mount Hermon, and that and that Gilgamesh
Speaker 1: story they named that is the dwelling place of the Anonaki.
Speaker 1: And then that's when she becomes so infatuated with him
Speaker 1: because they're they're these great heroes and she wanted this
Speaker 1: manly man to be hers. And after he reject her,
Speaker 1: that's when they take off on that other adventure. And
Speaker 1: like you had mentioned, he feared his mortality. He didn't
Speaker 1: want to die, so uh. During that battle, she like
Speaker 1: curses Inky Do, his best friend for slapping her in
Speaker 1: the face with that bullsty and he ends up dying.
Speaker 1: But he comes back and he tells Gilgamesh, you know
Speaker 1: this place that I'm going to. You don't want to
Speaker 1: be here, brother, do everything you can to not be here.
Speaker 1: So then he takes off on this other adventure to
Speaker 1: try to find it's basically Noah, but I can't remember
Speaker 1: their version what they called him now, But he goes
Speaker 1: on this journey and goes into.
Speaker 6: Something like that starts with yeah, yeah, I can never.
Speaker 1: See you're right and Ultra hasis it's another one. But
Speaker 1: they go find him and he's like, I'm seeking eternal life.
Speaker 1: I want to be like you, and basically he just
Speaker 1: tells him, you've come all this way for nothing. You
Speaker 1: can't have eternal life, and he forces to go to sleep,
Speaker 1: and then basically Noah's wife pleads with him. It's like,
Speaker 1: he come all this way, You're just going to send
Speaker 1: him away without helping him, and kind of guilt trips him.
Speaker 1: So once Gilgamesh wakes up, he tells him there is
Speaker 1: one way. There's this certain flower that grows under the
Speaker 1: sea at this certain place, and if you can find
Speaker 1: this flower and ingest it, you will have not eternal life,
Speaker 1: but long life, or really really long life. So he
Speaker 1: ties this boulder to his leg and throws himself into
Speaker 1: this sea and goes searching for this mystical flower, and
Speaker 1: he finds it, but then he comes back to the
Speaker 1: surface and before he can even eat it, this great
Speaker 1: serpent sneaks up and eats the flower and steals it
Speaker 1: from him. And so then he's all in dismay that
Speaker 1: he lost his shot at long life. But you have
Speaker 1: that serpent imagery again, you know, coming in the sneaky
Speaker 1: serpent stealing eternal life life from Gilgamesh.
Speaker 4: Do you think this these are like bedtime stories or
Speaker 4: you think this ship's real?
Speaker 1: I think it's all rooted in some truth. There's some
Speaker 1: kind of esoteric truth that that's being passed through these entertaining,
Speaker 1: unforgettable stories.
Speaker 3: Yeah, actually, yeah, I think it right, that esoteric stories. Yeah,
Speaker 3: something in it, and there's some truth, yeah, if you
Speaker 3: can figure it out for sure, I.
Speaker 1: Think yeah, I agree. And and that's another thing too,
Speaker 1: is like when you go to like the Bible and
Speaker 1: everybody wants to talk about, you know, all these Sumerian
Speaker 1: stories and Babylonian stories that they predate the Bible, so
Speaker 1: therefore they sound so similar because they just you know,
Speaker 1: basically stole their story, you know, and rewrote it in
Speaker 1: their own version. And I'm guilty. Everybody has their you know,
Speaker 1: preconceived notions and and faith based, you know, where I'm
Speaker 1: a Christian. I just tell people, you know, nothing of
Speaker 1: the first is the best. If that's the case, we'd
Speaker 1: all be driving around in four model ts. So just
Speaker 1: because it's the first, don't make it the best. And
Speaker 1: as far as the biblical narratives, Ford found on Road Dead.
Speaker 1: But so I tell people, like, if you go with
Speaker 1: the biblical narrative, what does it say? It says that
Speaker 1: the angels left their first estate and traded their first
Speaker 1: estate and came down to earth and was kicked out
Speaker 1: of heaven. So according to the biblical narrative, the fallen
Speaker 1: angels was here first. So is it out of the
Speaker 1: question that you would get their version their story first.
Speaker 1: And of course it's going to be distorted if it's
Speaker 1: coming from them, But that's just my standpoint on it.
Speaker 4: Though, Well, I mean, I agree with you, obviously, you
Speaker 4: know how I feel about that kind of stuff. But
Speaker 4: just when you hear these stories that are repeated throughout
Speaker 4: all these different cultures, you start to wondering, like, what
Speaker 4: part of this actually happened? What part of this is
Speaker 4: like a bedtime story, a cautionary tale or something like that,
Speaker 4: And how do you interweave like physical evidence with the
Speaker 4: mythology of a place, you know what I mean? Because
Speaker 4: it's like, if you look at the hieroglyphics and the
Speaker 4: stories sept come out of Egypt, it's dog headed beings
Speaker 4: and bird headed beings and stuff like that. I tend
Speaker 4: to kind of think that shit was legit and like
Speaker 4: they did have some fucked up beings walking around, But
Speaker 4: it's like what part of it was dramatized and like
Speaker 4: what part of it was part of the mystery schools
Speaker 4: and stuff like that, What part of it is real?
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
Speaker 7: Man armies got the dog man armies like.
Speaker 4: From The Mummy part two, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Nubis, yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: What was that guy's name? Beannie? You know a lot
Speaker 1: of people, Beanie, they have the hundred necklaces of every
Speaker 1: single god and religion and every single one of them.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, dude, I love that movie so much.
Speaker 4: I actually have been fascinated with this kind of stuff
Speaker 4: since I was a kid, and I would watch The
Speaker 4: Mummy on repeat and be like, I feel like this
Speaker 4: is the real shit, Like there's actual curses and like
Speaker 4: stuff from in Egypt that's you know, they talk about
Speaker 4: it like, oh, it's it's like a story. It's supposed
Speaker 4: to symbolize this, and it's like, no, I think they
Speaker 4: had stargates. I think they had advanced technology. I think
Speaker 4: that they had electricity in some form. So right, well,
Speaker 4: I mean it makes you wonder what part of like
Speaker 4: the Atlantis lore fits into all of this and Israel,
Speaker 4: that these were just saddle cities with giant centelonggated skull
Speaker 4: beings that were breakoffs from one civilization like the mothership,
Speaker 4: like was it Atlantean and then they all just kind
Speaker 4: of like did their own ship and then there was
Speaker 4: like a catastrophe that wiped it out.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I always thought that Atlantis was like an allegory
Speaker 1: for basically the Great Reset the flood story, and that's
Speaker 1: one of those universal things, you know, you go to India,
Speaker 1: it says that was his name Kushna I think there,
Speaker 1: or maybe I can't remember. It's the blue skin god.
Speaker 1: But he shows up as a fish and this it
Speaker 1: might be. But he shows up as this you know,
Speaker 1: fish to this righteous man, and he caused his name Minu,
Speaker 1: which you know stands for or means man, first man,
Speaker 1: and warns him of this great catastrophe and the world's
Speaker 1: going to be destroyed with the flood. To build this boat.
Speaker 1: And they build this boat and they basically he ties
Speaker 1: a lasso around the fish and he drags him to
Speaker 1: safety and places him on top of a mountain. And
Speaker 1: you have the same story with Noah. You have the
Speaker 1: same story like we just talked about with the Babylonian
Speaker 1: and Samaran the ultra hass. You go to the Native
Speaker 1: Americans in North America, they talk about a great flood
Speaker 1: coming and the gods preserving a remnant. Go to South America.
Speaker 1: It says Varrakoca in his first creation that he created giants,
Speaker 1: and that the giants devoured the land and the inhabitants
Speaker 1: of the land that they were wicked. So what does
Speaker 1: he do. He brings a flood to destroy the earth
Speaker 1: and the first thing, the remnant that survived. The giants
Speaker 1: worked with the people and they build this great tower
Speaker 1: in the air to evade a future potential flooding, so
Speaker 1: I mean the Tower of Bible. So you just have
Speaker 1: all these stories, and like you had mentioned, Julie, I'm
Speaker 1: the type of person. I'm not a coincidence theorist. I
Speaker 1: love comparative mythology. I like to look at all these
Speaker 1: stories and if we have all these same stories around
Speaker 1: the world, there has to be something to it. And
Speaker 1: so I just try to look for the common themes.
Speaker 1: And a lot of times we see caveats added or
Speaker 1: names change. Those are just you know, you can add
Speaker 1: that to their cultural spin. But the common themes where
Speaker 1: they're all the same, I think those are rooted and truth.
Speaker 4: And lucky for us, there's physical evidence of a lot
Speaker 4: of this, physical evidence water erosion on the Sphinx in Egypt,
Speaker 4: physical evidence that the Grand Canyon was hollowed out by water,
Speaker 4: and that the Native Americans hid in the caves and
Speaker 4: the age there were people that right, So this is
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like, you can't say they're all bedtime
Speaker 4: stories because there's an aspect that that can be spiritual,
Speaker 4: but there's an aspect that has to be literal because
Speaker 4: there is physical evidence. And then you start mixing the
Speaker 4: skeletons and giant skeletons and elongated schools and stuff with
Speaker 4: the water erosion on the Sphinx and with the Grand
Speaker 4: Canyon and the seashells on Mount Everest, and then you're like,
Speaker 4: all right, what part of these stories is literal?
Speaker 7: We have shells in the East Tennessee too, just to
Speaker 7: sprinkle in the Tennessee Mountains, they're finding old, ancient seashells
Speaker 7: and just sea stuff in general. Yeah, there was an
Speaker 7: ocean here at one point. And I'm kind of leaning
Speaker 7: with Doc on this one. It's like, you get one
Speaker 7: or two flood myths. My personal opinion is like, maybe
Speaker 7: that's a coincidence. But once you get forty flood myths,
Speaker 7: I'm starting to think that there was a day loge
Speaker 7: of some sort, some sort of a catastrophe with lots
Speaker 7: of water.
Speaker 6: That's interesting because I actually talk about that a lot
Speaker 6: when I explained it like this. The reason why we
Speaker 6: have so many flood stories is because every civilization started
Speaker 6: by a body of water, and eventually during that timeframe,
Speaker 6: whether it's our lifetime, our children's lifetime, our grandkids lifetime,
Speaker 6: there's going to be a major flood that pushes somebody
Speaker 6: away from that land and then they have to redo
Speaker 6: everything from the beginning. So I feel like most of
Speaker 6: these flood stories, yeah, they're very similar because in most cases,
Speaker 6: you know, the ancient people they have boats like we
Speaker 6: have cars today. Their transportation from one place to another
Speaker 6: or getting food in a mass production way was by
Speaker 6: using boats. So I look at it as you know,
Speaker 6: since every civilization started by a body of water, and
Speaker 6: we need body of water to survive, there's always going
Speaker 6: to be some type of flood story. And now that
Speaker 6: because we're mostly certain religions like Christianity, Muslims and so
Speaker 6: on and so forth, those big Abrahamic face, they're all
Speaker 6: combining that one flush story. Like he was talking about
Speaker 6: the Sumerians, you know, the Samarians have their flood story,
Speaker 6: the Akkadians have their flood story, the Syrians, Hittites and
Speaker 6: so on and so forth. Then you even have the
Speaker 6: Meso Americans.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: Now that's one of those things. It's like a lot
Speaker 1: of people want to talk about isolationism. You know, all
Speaker 1: these ancient people, they all just stayed in their little
Speaker 1: square piece of pasture and didn't trade or communicate with
Speaker 1: all these other countries. I think we have so much
Speaker 1: evidence that the ancients were diffusionists. They were sailing the seas.
Speaker 1: They were going to North America, mining this copper, coming
Speaker 1: back and bringing it back to the other parts of
Speaker 1: the world. I think the Venetians were basically fueling the
Speaker 1: Bronze Age. And if you go to Michigan up there,
Speaker 1: I can't remember that name, but that it's right there
Speaker 1: on the border of Michigan and Canada. But they find
Speaker 1: these huge copper minds, and they've estimated it's like hundreds
Speaker 1: of thousands of pounds of copper that is missing. And
Speaker 1: that Michigan copper is the purest copper in the world.
Speaker 1: It tests it like ninety eight point eight percent purity.
Speaker 1: So when they find copper that tests that high, they
Speaker 1: know it come from that Lake Michigan area because it's
Speaker 1: the purest in the world. It's the only one that
Speaker 1: tests that high. But they're finding copper that tests that
Speaker 1: pure in Europe, in South Asia and Africa, the Middle East, Peru,
Speaker 1: they're finding it everywhere. And I believe it's because these
Speaker 1: ancient Phoenicians, these giants, when the waterways were higher, they
Speaker 1: could sell straight across because if you follow the currents
Speaker 1: and the tides, you can take a boat with no sails,
Speaker 1: no paddles, and just drift. And there's a what's his name,
Speaker 1: a Scandinavian doctor. I can't remember his name now, I
Speaker 1: think it's Thore or something, but he actually tested this.
Speaker 1: He got on a raft and the currents naturally took
Speaker 1: him to North America. So if you had these Phoenicians
Speaker 1: that were known seafaring people and the water levels were higher,
Speaker 1: they could go towards like the Massachusetts area. And they
Speaker 1: say that this was all a waterway that led straight
Speaker 1: into Michigan and all these lakes, and that's where they
Speaker 1: were mining all this copper. And this land, you know,
Speaker 1: was very fertile and fruitful and had all kinds of
Speaker 1: natural resources. So from there, that's why you get all
Speaker 1: the mound structures and things down through the Ohio River
Speaker 1: Valley and you find all these giants in the Ohio
Speaker 1: River Valley, because these Phoenetians started setting up shop and
Speaker 1: just started going down the Ohio River Valley down through there.
Speaker 7: It's Aisle Royal in the Great Plates, and I was
Speaker 7: looking up doc. I was trying to see how many
Speaker 7: tons of copper are missing. That's a number that kind
Speaker 7: of sways. But one of the numbers that came up
Speaker 7: here is an estimated five hundred thousand tons of copper
Speaker 7: is missing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I said pounds, it's tons, it's tons. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: they even find a pictograph there in that island, on
Speaker 1: this huge stone. It's a Phoenician ship carved into the
Speaker 1: rock and it's with it. It's unmistakable, so they even
Speaker 1: put their their stamp on it.
Speaker 7: You've got the Canaanite shipwreck to anybody can look that up.
Speaker 7: It's a more recent fine. If you just put in
Speaker 7: Canaanite shipwreck, it'll come up. It was three thousand, three
Speaker 7: hundred years old.
Speaker 1: That's wild.
Speaker 7: And I'm connecting that with the Phoenicians, you know, because
Speaker 7: the Canaanites and Phoenicians were basically the same group.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, just a different name for them. But not
Speaker 1: to throw us off from this, but I just wanted
Speaker 1: to show you guys this, This is like the final
Speaker 1: thing I was want to talk about with those Elongad skulls,
Speaker 1: because I've talked about all the different variants and sizes
Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. But this right here
Speaker 1: is if any of the stuff I talked about today
Speaker 1: had you, you know, saying, I'm not sure if it's
Speaker 1: genetic or not, this should be the final nail on
Speaker 1: the coffin for you. In eighteen forty two, in a cave,
Speaker 1: they found an elongated skull or skeleton, rather full skeleton,
Speaker 1: and it was mummified. And when they started investigating and
Speaker 1: taking it apart and looking inside, and it was a
Speaker 1: female inside this female's belly was the elongated skull baby
Speaker 1: steal in the womb unborn. So did they do some
Speaker 1: surgery and cut it out and elongate the skull and
Speaker 1: then put it back in the womb.
Speaker 4: This is what I'm talking about with the Prometheus stuff.
Speaker 9: I wonder living in an alien movie? Sorry, no, yeah, Prometheus?
Speaker 9: You talking about like the oh my god, yeah, the
Speaker 9: alien movie Prometheus. Is that what you're talking about?
Speaker 4: Yeah, the alien movie Prometheus.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But this was in eighteen forty two, and it's
Speaker 1: actually got drawings and stuff, but I read like some
Speaker 1: little excerpts here. It was and this was in a
Speaker 1: journal that they had found from some of these explorers,
Speaker 1: and this was so predominant that even there was a
Speaker 1: papalistic bull in the sixteenth century by the Pope forbidding
Speaker 1: the elongation of skulls, because they were still doing it
Speaker 1: back in the sixteenth century. But it says here it
Speaker 1: says as it was only a few years since two
Speaker 1: mummies of children were carried to England, which, according to
Speaker 1: the very exact description of doctor Bellamy, belonged to the
Speaker 1: tribe of and A Jamayr's if I'm saying that correctly,
Speaker 1: But it says the two cranny of both of the
Speaker 1: children were scarce a year old. And this is while
Speaker 1: they found in this cave said in all aspects the
Speaker 1: same form as those of the adults. We ourselves have
Speaker 1: observed the same fact in many mummies of children of
Speaker 1: tender age, who, although they had had cloths about them,
Speaker 1: were yet without any vestige or appearance of pressure on
Speaker 1: the cranium. More still, the same formation of head presents
Speaker 1: itself in children yet unborn. And the truth we have
Speaker 1: had convincing proof in the sight of a fetus enclosed
Speaker 1: in a womb of a mummy of a pregnant woman,
Speaker 1: which we found in a cave in Hiyake, two leagues
Speaker 1: from Tamar and which is at this moment in our collection.
Speaker 1: Professor Dyote Pont from the Great Celebrity in the Department
Speaker 1: of Abstructures has assured us that this fetus is one
Speaker 1: of seven months age and belongs to, according to the
Speaker 1: very clearly formation of the cranium, to the tribe of Honkahs.
Speaker 1: But they have a drawing here of this guy.
Speaker 4: Dude, it literally looks like something from Alien Covenant.
Speaker 2: Oh shit, yeah. See.
Speaker 6: One thing that I do like about you is you
Speaker 6: do the same thing that I like to do. What
Speaker 6: I noticed about you is when you pull that first
Speaker 6: book out is I use little tabs.
Speaker 5: Also in my books. I have a lot.
Speaker 6: I actually buy them on Amazon by the thousands, right,
Speaker 6: and I got.
Speaker 5: Them like you do, right.
Speaker 6: And I like what I like to do is when
Speaker 6: I'm talking about something, I like to have a book
Speaker 6: in front of me.
Speaker 5: I do the same exact thing.
Speaker 6: I don't know how to put it, but I really
Speaker 6: do appreciate that because a lot of people when they
Speaker 6: do it, they do it off the top of their head,
Speaker 6: and I know they memorized it, but you're like me,
Speaker 6: you can't remember it that easy. So you have to
Speaker 6: go back to a source, and you want to show
Speaker 6: people what you actually see. Now, whenever I say something,
Speaker 6: when I show it in a book, I'm just telling you, hey,
Speaker 6: this is my evidence.
Speaker 5: I'm not saying that this is fact. I'm like saying
Speaker 5: this is fixing.
Speaker 6: What I'm saying is somebody took the time to record
Speaker 6: this to give us, give us this information. So at
Speaker 6: the bare minimum, we should take the time to research
Speaker 6: and go deeper in it. And I can tell you
Speaker 6: one of the books that I do the most on
Speaker 6: because I'm going over one of these books because I
Speaker 6: show you I'm serious when I say I'm like you
Speaker 6: with these times. So I really do appreciate that because.
Speaker 1: A lot of people that's the size of a true
Speaker 1: researcher man, which I got a pretty good memory and
Speaker 1: I can get probably eighty eighty percent of the story ride,
Speaker 1: but I want to try to get close to hundred
Speaker 1: as I can. And also to anybody can make something
Speaker 1: up and tell you something, and I'm the I might
Speaker 1: as well be from Missouri, you know, I'm like, show me,
Speaker 1: I'm from the show.
Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying that that's I will show you. Yeah,
Speaker 6: and when you're pulling out the book and you're showing
Speaker 6: your evidence, you're not. You're saying that, hey, this is
Speaker 6: what I read. I took the time to read this book.
Speaker 6: How can you How can anybody sit there and say
Speaker 6: you're wrong if they haven't read the same animation you
Speaker 6: present it right, because you throw the went through it.
Speaker 5: You even highlighted.
Speaker 6: I noticed you even highlight some of the stuff that
Speaker 6: you're doing it. And I do the same thing when
Speaker 6: it's like double or triple important, like yeah, I got
Speaker 6: to put a mark on here because this is very important.
Speaker 6: I actually have a series on my YouTube what I've
Speaker 6: learned from reading this book, and I actually do what
Speaker 6: you just do.
Speaker 5: I go through page through page.
Speaker 6: And show what I've read and do a little review. So, yeah,
Speaker 6: I'm liking this, this is good. I just have to
Speaker 6: say that.
Speaker 1: No, thank you man. Yeah, that's the thing that is,
Speaker 1: when you have a podcast, you read all these books.
Speaker 1: Like I said, you might remember a high percentage of it.
Speaker 1: But to me, I think it's important to put the
Speaker 1: tabs in there and highlight it. And then when I
Speaker 1: go to do a podcast on a certain show, I
Speaker 1: know what certain books I need when I pull them out,
Speaker 1: I got quick references.
Speaker 3: Oh, if you get that shit wrong, people online definitely out.
Speaker 3: You know that much, especially in like YouTube comments. You know,
Speaker 3: if you're not you could be fucking like one day
Speaker 3: off on something. You're wrong, everything's completely.
Speaker 1: Wrong when.
Speaker 5: The world of the time most of the.
Speaker 2: Time, well you know what the best you know. Barrio
Speaker 2: from Symbolic Studies even play it out.
Speaker 3: He's like, I love how like you get people that
Speaker 3: will like say you're wrong but never tell you what
Speaker 3: the correct answer is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love Mario had him.
Speaker 3: I was like, a really good point, and unfortunately he
Speaker 3: says that happens a lot on your channel.
Speaker 2: That right.
Speaker 3: I was like, people sit there and ship talk you
Speaker 3: and tell you're wrong, but I never heard it. Never
Speaker 3: saw a fucking answer. What's the answer, what's the right one?
Speaker 2: Oh? You don't even know either?
Speaker 7: Okay, he but I do have shout out to this hater. Sorry,
Speaker 7: I'll let you, I'll let you go to man. Shout
Speaker 7: out to b Kane eleven C. Love that guy. He
Speaker 7: thinks I don't like him. I like you, man, I
Speaker 7: like you man. I love it when you talk crap
Speaker 7: about me.
Speaker 2: I don't know what is.
Speaker 5: Sorry, I was going to that's cool.
Speaker 6: I was just going to ask, like, what what is
Speaker 6: the DNA say when when you researched it? Because I've
Speaker 6: heard different things, But what does the DNA say to
Speaker 6: you or how do you interpret it?
Speaker 1: Well? According to this, you know, like I said, La
Speaker 1: had done the DNA testing and all that stuff, and
Speaker 1: which he's got it in here in this book. But
Speaker 1: it's a lot of big languages and stuff letters that
Speaker 1: I have trouble understanding. But according to his breakdown because
Speaker 1: in here in this book he talks about, you know
Speaker 1: this why certain numbers strand was found at such and
Speaker 1: such percent and this strand X number such and such
Speaker 1: was found that this percentage, and what he said was
Speaker 1: is basically uh, it's uh a mix of European and
Speaker 1: Middle Eastern descent, but it's more predominant in Middle Eastern.
Speaker 1: So LA's theory is and he's a Christian, so he
Speaker 1: comes from a you know, Christian paradigm. Him and Fritz
Speaker 1: Zimmerman formed this idea that when the Israelites came out
Speaker 1: of Egypt and Exodus and they come back into the
Speaker 1: Holy Land, a lot of people that's not familiar. They
Speaker 1: just see where God tells them to kill every man, woman,
Speaker 1: and child, that it's just mass genocide. But if you
Speaker 1: actually do the research instead of the genealogies and the
Speaker 1: names of these tribes, all the ones that God commanded
Speaker 1: them to kill every man, woman and child were Nephelum
Speaker 1: giant clans. So he says that he believes, well, you
Speaker 1: got there the everything Bible.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was just reading this what you're talking about,
Speaker 6: like the genealogy that actually has this in here.
Speaker 5: I have another one.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: A lot of people just I mean I was one
Speaker 1: of them too, thinks it's boring and they just kind
Speaker 1: of skim over it. But it's there for a reason.
Speaker 1: And he says that when they started conquering all these
Speaker 1: giant tribes, you know, these were you know, another name
Speaker 1: for them, Tim said, was the Phoenicians, you know, and
Speaker 1: the Canaanites, and they were known as great seafaring people.
Speaker 1: So Fritz in La had come to the theory that
Speaker 1: the ones that were smart and heard about all the
Speaker 1: other giant clans getting wiped out, that there was a
Speaker 1: great diaspora that a bunch of them fled north into
Speaker 1: Europe and the Caucaus Mountains and Sardinia and all these
Speaker 1: other places. And then another remnant got on this boat
Speaker 1: and went out to North America and settled into the
Speaker 1: Great Ohio River Valley region and done the copper mining
Speaker 1: and stuff like I mentioned earlier, and that they just
Speaker 1: moved their way south and went down into Peru. That
Speaker 1: was his theory. And to me, I mean, that makes
Speaker 1: a lot of sense. But like I said, I mean
Speaker 1: I have my predispositions.
Speaker 7: You've got the Phoenician Iberian artifacts showing up in mounds
Speaker 7: in West Virginia, Ohio Valley.
Speaker 1: You know, this was a new Hampshire the America stonehenge.
Speaker 1: The professor from Harvard, Barry Fell, they found this stone
Speaker 1: and they call it the bell tained Stones what they've
Speaker 1: named it now. But the guy that owns the place,
Speaker 1: I think his name was Roger Stone, found this huge
Speaker 1: stone tablet with all this writing on it that he
Speaker 1: couldn't decipher and nobody could, and so he was taking
Speaker 1: pictures of it and sentenced all these universities. And the
Speaker 1: professor is trying to figure out, you know, what kind
Speaker 1: of writing was it? What did it say? And Barry
Speaker 1: Fell from Harvard responded and said he thinks he knows
Speaker 1: what it is, but he wanted to examine it in person,
Speaker 1: so he went up to New Hampshire and looked at
Speaker 1: him and deciphered the thing and he told him, he said,
Speaker 1: this is ancient Phoenician script and it says we the Canaanites,
Speaker 1: dedicate this site to bail and so that was a
Speaker 1: pretty big paradigm buster. And then also with their whole
Speaker 1: diffusion narrative, I think they said it was next to
Speaker 1: the gates of Hercules up there that they found pillars,
Speaker 1: and there was ancient Phoenician script on it too, and
Speaker 1: it had said that we, we Canaanites, have been forced
Speaker 1: into this land because we've been pushed out of our
Speaker 1: home by Joshua and Caleb, the robbers. So they were
Speaker 1: even documenting, you know, they were run out by Joshua
Speaker 1: and Caleb and they were forced to go to these
Speaker 1: other lands.
Speaker 7: It's almost if too there was and I mean, I've
Speaker 7: seen all that. I agree with all that. In fact,
Speaker 7: you're shedding light on a couple of things that I
Speaker 7: didn't even know there.
Speaker 1: That's awesome.
Speaker 7: But there's also evidence of these other cultures from the
Speaker 7: Middle East as well, So it's almost as if this
Speaker 7: copper trade turned us into a commerce hub that brought
Speaker 7: in people from all over the place, because you've got,
Speaker 7: you know, the Egyptian stuff, the Hebrew stuff. Barry Fall
Speaker 7: you mentioned him. I've got one of his books. In fact,
Speaker 7: you actually told me to get it, doc, and I
Speaker 7: got it. And that book is full of stuff that
Speaker 7: you'll never hear about in a history class, in an
Speaker 7: American history class. Chock full.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And this ain't no big dummy either. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is a Harvard professor, but he takes the standpoint of diffusionism.
Speaker 7: America is a true Old world man. There you go.
Speaker 7: The New World was built on the Old World.
Speaker 1: And one thing that I found too, with the la
Speaker 1: that I'd never seen before. And you know how it is,
Speaker 1: you can read something or see something a million times
Speaker 1: and it takes someone else with an outside perspective to
Speaker 1: show you something that's been in front of your face
Speaker 1: the whole time. But he had mentioned in his book
Speaker 1: that there's even commandments in the Bible condemning the practice
Speaker 1: of elongating heads. You know, we find the elongated heads,
Speaker 1: you know, down there in the Middle East, But then
Speaker 1: it also ties them in with these giants and the
Speaker 1: Book of Leviticus, there's commandments that kind of got muddied
Speaker 1: up in the English translation, but when you go back
Speaker 1: to the original languages, it tells you that you are
Speaker 1: condemned and commanded not to encircle the rounds of your head.
Speaker 1: And that's a Leviticus, chapter nineteen and verse twenty seven.
Speaker 1: In the English it says, you shall not round the
Speaker 1: corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners
Speaker 1: of thy beard. You shall not make any cuttings in
Speaker 1: your flesh for the dead. And when you go down.
Speaker 1: He's got all the different word translations in the strongs
Speaker 1: references and all that, And now I'll spare you all that.
Speaker 1: You can look that up on your own if you
Speaker 1: don't believe me. But the word in Hebrew for cough
Speaker 1: means to surround or to encircle, and it says elsewhere
Speaker 1: the same Hebrew word is translated to compass seven other times,
Speaker 1: to go round about three times, or go about two times,
Speaker 1: and compass about two times. So this word is related
Speaker 1: to the Hebrew word na cough, which means to encircle
Speaker 1: with rope. So basically, when you take these translations of
Speaker 1: the Hebrew rope, the substitution would be you shall not
Speaker 1: round the corners of your heads. However, based upon the
Speaker 1: information containing the preceding paragraphs, they could also be translated
Speaker 1: you shall not surround or encircle the extremities of your head.
Speaker 1: So he was saying to him, it sounds just a
Speaker 1: lot like headbinding.
Speaker 4: It does sound a lot like headbinding, because.
Speaker 1: The alternative is that you're hired a yamica.
Speaker 4: Right, That is really fascinating to me. I wonder if
Speaker 4: because it's idolatry, right, yeah, you're you're yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7: I wonder if the skull caps have something to do
Speaker 7: with this that go back to this in any kind
Speaker 7: of a way, because I don't know, I don't know
Speaker 7: much about this, but I've heard that like people used
Speaker 7: to actually put real skulls on the top of their skull,
Speaker 7: like so like the skull cap that the religious people
Speaker 7: where I don't remember what really, I'm yeah, so those
Speaker 7: things used to be at one point, I've read that
Speaker 7: those things were real, the real cut out parts of
Speaker 7: a skull, and it symbolized in some type of way,
Speaker 7: like uh, taking that person's knowledge and like putting it
Speaker 7: into your mind.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I've never heard anything.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was. This was all wrapped up in some
Speaker 7: stuff that I was looking into, just to do with
Speaker 7: the skull in general, and like ancestral bloodlines and stuff
Speaker 7: like that, and like the priest kings that we were
Speaker 7: talking about earlier. Well, some of these guys, even the Sumerians.
Speaker 7: I think some of the royal families today or royal
Speaker 7: families in recent day, trace their lineage back to some
Speaker 7: of these the old gods, right Dragon Court, Yes, And
Speaker 7: what you'll see in a lot of castles and royal
Speaker 7: houses across the land is paintings of a woman holding
Speaker 7: a skull, and the skull represents their ancestors and what
Speaker 7: they believe to be a pure bloodline. And it's a
Speaker 7: bloodline that comes through the mother, not the father, and
Speaker 7: it's associated with their divine right to rule, the divine
Speaker 7: right of kings. But it all goes back to this bloodline.
Speaker 7: And you so there's all this crazy stuff with the skull,
Speaker 7: you know, shock full of symbolism.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the whole veneration thing in the Dragon Court. I
Speaker 1: talk about that in the book. And I recently had
Speaker 1: a conversation with Gary Wayne and we talked about that
Speaker 1: in also Nicholas de Vere's book The Dragon Legacy, and
Speaker 1: they all traced their lineage back basically to Kane, and
Speaker 1: Kane was the Serpent Seed, and they called themselves the
Speaker 1: Dragon Court, and they were basically screwed out of their
Speaker 1: birthright and they have the divine right to rule. And
Speaker 1: what's crazy is even Nicholas de Vere, he's from the
Speaker 1: Devere family. That's one of the elite families too. They
Speaker 1: claim to be from the Dragon Court. But he talks
Speaker 1: about the predominant lines of these people were red hair,
Speaker 1: blue eyed, or wait about about that backwards, blonde hair,
Speaker 1: blue eyed or red haired green eyed. And these are
Speaker 1: where you get all your story, sorry, all your story
Speaker 1: stories of the fairies and the Alvin race and all
Speaker 1: this kind of Lord Ring stuff that they are esoterically
Speaker 1: talking about. This Dragon Court.
Speaker 4: That's what it's kind of like what I was saying earlier,
Speaker 4: what part of it is the truth and what part
Speaker 4: of it is a bedtime story? The Lord of the
Speaker 4: Rings stuff I believe is based it's like a it's
Speaker 4: like a story trying to tell a true story. And
Speaker 4: like all the different races are different blood lines, and
Speaker 4: it's like Were they really fairies like Tinker fucking Bell
Speaker 4: or what? Are they trying to show a bloodline thing,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, like the fairy bloodline, the
Speaker 4: dragon blood line, this that. It's like they all Somebody
Speaker 4: put in the comments. I love Gary Wayne, I do
Speaker 4: to worked with him several times. Sounds like you have
Speaker 4: to and that's kind of like what he says. It's
Speaker 4: like blood types.
Speaker 8: Let you close your eyes, look into the darkness, find
Speaker 8: the blazing star, focus on it, and to become the eclipse.
Speaker 1: Don't fear.
Speaker 2: That the show will be God.
Speaker 1: And death. You be shure