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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Catherine hileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as

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<v Speaker 1>our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested

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<v Speaker 1>in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going over the same parenting topics over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we

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<v Speaker 2>thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,

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<v Speaker 2>if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's all make like we're doing something important for

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<v Speaker 2>our families. Each Wednesday we bring you our thoughts on

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<v Speaker 2>a newer entertainment property, And for this week of November eighteenth,

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<v Speaker 2>we're discussing the third episode of the new season of Shrinking.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was called Psychological Something Is And I was

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<v Speaker 2>with it all the way up until the end, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I got mad about you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, Alice is all vulnerable and she winds up

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<v Speaker 1>kissing the poor sad boy she had previously seated to

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<v Speaker 1>her friend. The music at the end, while this terrible

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<v Speaker 1>thing was happening was it's okay, make mistakes, okay, make mistakes,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, is it okay?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>I really think it's okay. Yeah, I think maybe don't

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<v Speaker 1>make the mistakes. And again it was the same sort

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<v Speaker 1>of thing as the end of last season. There is

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<v Speaker 1>that really sweet scene of Jimmy and Brian and Charlie

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<v Speaker 1>making up, talking to each other, just a happy tableau,

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<v Speaker 1>and your episode there what is wrong with you? Instead? Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>it ends with Alice making a horrible mistake that is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be much harder to get herself out of

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<v Speaker 1>than kissing trying to kiss Sean si Oh, sweetheart, sweetheart

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<v Speaker 1>could have seen this coming. But still, Summer's gonna be pissed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Summer, who we were just praising for her excellences

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<v Speaker 2>problem solving.

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<v Speaker 4>She gave good advice.

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<v Speaker 2>She was like, I'll take that neighbor kid off your hands. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is how she's repaid.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, and also not too cool to jerk that

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<v Speaker 1>neighbor kid around in this.

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<v Speaker 4>Way exactly, it's not so.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, while he should not have you know that

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<v Speaker 1>he uh jeez. Yeah, And I mean she is significantly

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<v Speaker 1>messed up at that moment from having met Brett Goldstein,

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<v Speaker 1>who I know we have to hate him, but oh

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh, without the beard and with that big sad face,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to give buck. Yes, you sort of

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<v Speaker 1>wish that Roy Kent could come out every night? Just

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<v Speaker 1>go no noes, we know, because there's no beard. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, that's how, you know, how can we make

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<v Speaker 1>people not think that this is going to be the

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<v Speaker 1>same guy a whole bunch of empty face to look at?

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<v Speaker 1>It does look extremely different with that, It really does.

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<v Speaker 1>So how how did Alice know where he works?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? A good question.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we we figured that there was maybe some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of public records thing she could have looked up

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<v Speaker 1>to find his house. Did she go to his house?

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<v Speaker 4>Did she follow it to work?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Good question.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to expect that that's it. I guess she

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<v Speaker 1>didn't just happen to go to coffee at the wrong place.

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<v Speaker 5>I assume or she's been doing a lot and they're

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<v Speaker 5>googling and social media stalking. I guess, oh baby, yeah, hm, yikes.

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<v Speaker 4>Paul tried to stop her.

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<v Speaker 2>Paul tried to be the both parent and therapist and

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<v Speaker 2>be like, Baryl, this is bad, and her own dad

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but unable to step in at this.

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<v Speaker 1>His own stuff going on. He's saving Grace and he's uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, trying to make up to Gabby and to Brian.

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<v Speaker 1>He was getting dumped on by pretty much everybody in

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<v Speaker 1>this so he had his own stuff. Although, is Paul

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<v Speaker 1>and Alice's relationship visa VID their therapy, her therapy a

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<v Speaker 1>professional one or a friendly one, which is to say,

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<v Speaker 1>can Paul just go to Jimmy and say, hey, she

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<v Speaker 1>went to his house. You need to talk to her

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<v Speaker 1>about this, right?

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<v Speaker 4>Is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Would that be a violation? Is she expecting doctor patient coffee?

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<v Speaker 2>But also I think that he wouldn't do that because

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<v Speaker 2>he still wants Alice to trust him and talk to.

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<v Speaker 1>Him, I guess. But this is he's gonna a big deal. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, and something that could predictably be very very bad. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe in that situation, like if she comes to

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be fine, she wouldn't because of her mom, but

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<v Speaker 1>or hey I'm gonna go, you know, do something really dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>Although she told him about the EH Anyway, I felt

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<v Speaker 1>like Jimmy needed to know about this and talk to

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<v Speaker 1>her about it, right, but maybe keep her keys in

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<v Speaker 1>his pocket. But Paul also had his own stuff going

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<v Speaker 1>on with the whole situation with Julie's husband. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was very sad.

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<v Speaker 2>Beating Julie's husband, who turns out they're still married and

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<v Speaker 1>Huh and does not appear to really know who she is, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, And so then Paul is going to worry, well,

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<v Speaker 1>is she just like collecting poor saddled sick guys, and

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<v Speaker 1>is you know, should I be putting her through this again?

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<v Speaker 1>But she seems pretty clear, amusingly firm about what she wants.

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<v Speaker 1>I enjoy her a lot. She's a good addition to

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah she is. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's I mean, it's just sitcom life. But

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<v Speaker 2>just the way like anyone and everyone could be in

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<v Speaker 2>the kitchen at the workplace of Paul, Gabby and Jimmy

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<v Speaker 2>just yeah, you know, Julie's shows up there, Derek shows

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's definitely a sitcom thing, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>just like the way everybody nobody talks on the phone.

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<v Speaker 3>They all have to just like show up and this.

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<v Speaker 1>Is what we want. This is what I like. This

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<v Speaker 1>is what I like from a vill Lauren sitcom is

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<v Speaker 1>just everybody hanging out, different permutations of hanging out, and

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes people aren't allowed to calm hang out and then

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<v Speaker 1>they work their way back in, right do you When

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<v Speaker 1>they did that whole thing of do you know what

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<v Speaker 1>my husband does for a living? I was thinking of

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<v Speaker 1>all my friends and please don't ask me that question.

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<v Speaker 4>You wouldn't be able to answer it.

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<v Speaker 1>I have one friend I would be able to answer it,

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<v Speaker 1>and all the rest I'm not sure. And that's mostly

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<v Speaker 1>because in this the one that I do know is

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<v Speaker 1>a friend also. So but hmmm, yeah, well.

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<v Speaker 4>Then it turned out that Brian didn't really know what

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<v Speaker 1>Eat. That was hilarious, I mean, because what his husband

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<v Speaker 1>does is something like marketing consultant, which what the bleep

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<v Speaker 1>even is that?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I believe it was management consultant.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, management consultant, What the bleep even is that? So

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<v Speaker 1>that's completely understand right, he could have told you and

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<v Speaker 1>you still would have forgotten it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Oh well relatable.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, see, then the whole grace thing was boy

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<v Speaker 1>that Donnie making friends everywhere he goes the therapy.

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<v Speaker 2>The physical therapist, just like I ate him so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Jimmy's like, yeah, probably inappropriate, But Jimmy, you have been

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<v Speaker 2>extremely inappropriate and as throughout this situation.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, there's a lot of realies in that

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<v Speaker 1>storyline and I don't care. Get it gone. Send to

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<v Speaker 1>Vancouver's Hedy Gardner. Very much appreciated your performance. You did great,

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<v Speaker 1>very interesting. But it's over, please please please let it

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<v Speaker 1>be over.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but that was a nice little drive away on

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<v Speaker 1>a you haul.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, wearing the same sweater you were just wearing so that.

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<v Speaker 4>I notice stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But what was a noticeable sweaters going on?

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<v Speaker 4>That's true, that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it was a nice twist that it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>Jimmy who solved it after all. It was it was

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<v Speaker 2>Brian coming in with the the statements. He had gathered.

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<v Speaker 1>Pimonials from friends, friendship, ladies and gentleman friendship. We have

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<v Speaker 1>our theme for the week. You oh, and Liz does

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<v Speaker 1>something selfless and it comes back and bites are in

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<v Speaker 1>the butt.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was not a good Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you can see. This is the second time

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<v Speaker 1>I watched the episode. I watched it when it first

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<v Speaker 1>came out, and I missed the bit where she's standing

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<v Speaker 1>by the truck and she hears him say, yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>would be great, but I, you know, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to let Liz down or something like that. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I could see why she would do what she did. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because originally I thought, why would she even do that?

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<v Speaker 1>She's having a good time, but yeah, she thought she

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<v Speaker 1>was doing something good. But here's maybe a theme of

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<v Speaker 1>this show is just fracking talk to people. How hard

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<v Speaker 1>is it to just talk to people?

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<v Speaker 2>Unless it's the drunk driver who killed your mother? Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>don't talk to him, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, talk to him with your dad there is maybe

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<v Speaker 1>in an office somewhere and not his place of work,

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<v Speaker 1>and in an organized way.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Certainly good to talk, not good to stalk. But oh dear,

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<v Speaker 1>that is a that is a dilemma. Do we And

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<v Speaker 1>I feel so bad for Sean.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I guess Sean's gonna have to confront a

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<v Speaker 2>hard topic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, He's gonna have to do exactly what the

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<v Speaker 1>theme for this season for him was set up to

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<v Speaker 1>be right, so do hard things yep, and should be

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<v Speaker 1>making contact with his family and reconnecting to people he

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<v Speaker 1>knew before he got into Jimmy's orbit. But at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time, you don't want to be ambushed with that, right,

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<v Speaker 1>You want to give it some thoughtful consideration. Hey, Sean,

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<v Speaker 1>if the time ever comes when you want to go

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<v Speaker 1>in business with your dad instead of me, I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>happy to sell my shares. I just want you to know,

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<v Speaker 1>so it would take there. You go interesting the possibility.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the course of the season, he thinks about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe at the end of the season you do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And by that time she's really sick of having the responsibility.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, She's like, I don't like getting up this earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So she's ready to, you know, launch her baby bird

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<v Speaker 2>out of her nest, like she wants to launch her

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<v Speaker 2>own living child.

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<v Speaker 4>She's like, please go.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh the amount of leap that is going to hit

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<v Speaker 1>the fan from that last scene, yeah, especially presuming they

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<v Speaker 1>don't just kiss.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I guess we don't know that, well we will?

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<v Speaker 1>You do? I know I don't because I have. I

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<v Speaker 1>stopped when we started talking about them. I stopped watching

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<v Speaker 1>them because it's just I was having trouble. Yeah, referencing

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<v Speaker 1>things from other episodes. Yeah, because everything builds on everything.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard. It's it's hard to differentiate where one ends

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<v Speaker 1>and the next one takes up.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely waiting, but I see things on social media. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go watch it. Yeah, Summer's reaction was

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<v Speaker 1>on social media. Oh dear, because the the sad boy

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<v Speaker 1>can't keep his freaking mouth shut. I would, yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>I do not know.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, anyway, well, perhaps we shall find out next week

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<v Speaker 2>when we will discuss the fourth episode of season two.

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