Speaker 1: Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
Speaker 1: I'm Catherine hileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
Speaker 1: help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as
Speaker 1: our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested
Speaker 1: in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm
Speaker 1: going over the same parenting topics over and over.
Speaker 2: So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we
Speaker 2: thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,
Speaker 2: if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,
Speaker 2: and let's all make like we're doing something important for
Speaker 2: our families. Each Wednesday we bring you our thoughts on
Speaker 2: a newer entertainment property, And for this week of November eighteenth,
Speaker 2: we're discussing the third episode of the new season of Shrinking.
Speaker 2: And it was called Psychological Something Is And I was
Speaker 2: with it all the way up until the end, and
Speaker 2: then I got mad about you.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Alice is all vulnerable and she winds up
Speaker 1: kissing the poor sad boy she had previously seated to
Speaker 1: her friend. The music at the end, while this terrible
Speaker 1: thing was happening was it's okay, make mistakes, okay, make mistakes,
Speaker 1: and I was like, is it okay?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: I really think it's okay. Yeah, I think maybe don't
Speaker 1: make the mistakes. And again it was the same sort
Speaker 1: of thing as the end of last season. There is
Speaker 1: that really sweet scene of Jimmy and Brian and Charlie
Speaker 1: making up, talking to each other, just a happy tableau,
Speaker 1: and your episode there what is wrong with you? Instead? Instead,
Speaker 1: it ends with Alice making a horrible mistake that is
Speaker 1: going to be much harder to get herself out of
Speaker 1: than kissing trying to kiss Sean si Oh, sweetheart, sweetheart
Speaker 1: could have seen this coming. But still, Summer's gonna be pissed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Summer, who we were just praising for her excellences
Speaker 2: problem solving.
Speaker 4: She gave good advice.
Speaker 2: She was like, I'll take that neighbor kid off your hands. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and this is how she's repaid.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and also not too cool to jerk that
Speaker 1: neighbor kid around in this.
Speaker 4: Way exactly, it's not so.
Speaker 1: You know, while he should not have you know that
Speaker 1: he uh jeez. Yeah, And I mean she is significantly
Speaker 1: messed up at that moment from having met Brett Goldstein,
Speaker 1: who I know we have to hate him, but oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, without the beard and with that big sad face,
Speaker 1: I just want to give buck. Yes, you sort of
Speaker 1: wish that Roy Kent could come out every night? Just
Speaker 1: go no noes, we know, because there's no beard. I
Speaker 1: was like, that's how, you know, how can we make
Speaker 1: people not think that this is going to be the
Speaker 1: same guy a whole bunch of empty face to look at?
Speaker 1: It does look extremely different with that, It really does.
Speaker 1: So how how did Alice know where he works?
Speaker 4: Yeah? A good question.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, we we figured that there was maybe some
Speaker 1: sort of public records thing she could have looked up
Speaker 1: to find his house. Did she go to his house?
Speaker 4: Did she follow it to work?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Good question.
Speaker 1: We have to expect that that's it. I guess she
Speaker 1: didn't just happen to go to coffee at the wrong place.
Speaker 5: I assume or she's been doing a lot and they're
Speaker 5: googling and social media stalking. I guess, oh baby, yeah, hm, yikes.
Speaker 4: Paul tried to stop her.
Speaker 2: Paul tried to be the both parent and therapist and
Speaker 2: be like, Baryl, this is bad, and her own dad
Speaker 2: I don't know, but unable to step in at this.
Speaker 1: His own stuff going on. He's saving Grace and he's uh,
Speaker 1: you know, trying to make up to Gabby and to Brian.
Speaker 1: He was getting dumped on by pretty much everybody in
Speaker 1: this so he had his own stuff. Although, is Paul
Speaker 1: and Alice's relationship visa VID their therapy, her therapy a
Speaker 1: professional one or a friendly one, which is to say,
Speaker 1: can Paul just go to Jimmy and say, hey, she
Speaker 1: went to his house. You need to talk to her
Speaker 1: about this, right?
Speaker 4: Is that?
Speaker 1: Would that be a violation? Is she expecting doctor patient coffee?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a good question. I don't know.
Speaker 2: But also I think that he wouldn't do that because
Speaker 2: he still wants Alice to trust him and talk to.
Speaker 1: Him, I guess. But this is he's gonna a big deal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree, and something that could predictably be very very bad. Right,
Speaker 1: So maybe in that situation, like if she comes to
Speaker 1: him and says, hey, I'm drunk driving but I'm sure
Speaker 1: it'll be fine, she wouldn't because of her mom, but
Speaker 1: or hey I'm gonna go, you know, do something really dangerous.
Speaker 1: Although she told him about the EH Anyway, I felt
Speaker 1: like Jimmy needed to know about this and talk to
Speaker 1: her about it, right, but maybe keep her keys in
Speaker 1: his pocket. But Paul also had his own stuff going
Speaker 1: on with the whole situation with Julie's husband. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that was very sad.
Speaker 2: Beating Julie's husband, who turns out they're still married and
Speaker 2: he has dementia and is in a care facility.
Speaker 1: Huh and does not appear to really know who she is, right,
Speaker 1: you know, And so then Paul is going to worry, well,
Speaker 1: is she just like collecting poor saddled sick guys, and
Speaker 1: is you know, should I be putting her through this again?
Speaker 1: But she seems pretty clear, amusingly firm about what she wants.
Speaker 1: I enjoy her a lot. She's a good addition to
Speaker 1: the cast.
Speaker 4: Yeah she is. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think it's I mean, it's just sitcom life. But
Speaker 2: just the way like anyone and everyone could be in
Speaker 2: the kitchen at the workplace of Paul, Gabby and Jimmy
Speaker 2: just yeah, you know, Julie's shows up there, Derek shows
Speaker 2: up out like eating the ice cream.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's definitely a sitcom thing, you know,
Speaker 3: just like the way everybody nobody talks on the phone.
Speaker 3: They all have to just like show up and this.
Speaker 1: Is what we want. This is what I like. This
Speaker 1: is what I like from a vill Lauren sitcom is
Speaker 1: just everybody hanging out, different permutations of hanging out, and
Speaker 1: sometimes people aren't allowed to calm hang out and then
Speaker 1: they work their way back in, right do you When
Speaker 1: they did that whole thing of do you know what
Speaker 1: my husband does for a living? I was thinking of
Speaker 1: all my friends and please don't ask me that question.
Speaker 4: You wouldn't be able to answer it.
Speaker 1: I have one friend I would be able to answer it,
Speaker 1: and all the rest I'm not sure. And that's mostly
Speaker 1: because in this the one that I do know is
Speaker 1: a friend also. So but hmmm, yeah, well.
Speaker 4: Then it turned out that Brian didn't really know what
Speaker 4: his husband did.
Speaker 1: Eat. That was hilarious, I mean, because what his husband
Speaker 1: does is something like marketing consultant, which what the bleep
Speaker 1: even is that?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I believe it was management consultant.
Speaker 1: Yes, management consultant, What the bleep even is that? So
Speaker 1: that's completely understand right, he could have told you and
Speaker 1: you still would have forgotten it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh well relatable.
Speaker 1: Oh no, see, then the whole grace thing was boy
Speaker 1: that Donnie making friends everywhere he goes the therapy.
Speaker 2: The physical therapist, just like I ate him so much.
Speaker 2: Jimmy's like, yeah, probably inappropriate, But Jimmy, you have been
Speaker 2: extremely inappropriate and as throughout this situation.
Speaker 1: But you know, there's a lot of realies in that
Speaker 1: storyline and I don't care. Get it gone. Send to
Speaker 1: Vancouver's Hedy Gardner. Very much appreciated your performance. You did great,
Speaker 1: very interesting. But it's over, please please please let it
Speaker 1: be over.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that was a nice little drive away on
Speaker 1: a you haul.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wearing the same sweater you were just wearing so that.
Speaker 4: I notice stuff like that.
Speaker 1: But what was a noticeable sweaters going on?
Speaker 4: That's true, that's true.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it was a nice twist that it wasn't
Speaker 2: Jimmy who solved it after all. It was it was
Speaker 2: Brian coming in with the the statements. He had gathered.
Speaker 1: Pimonials from friends, friendship, ladies and gentleman friendship. We have
Speaker 1: our theme for the week. You oh, and Liz does
Speaker 1: something selfless and it comes back and bites are in
Speaker 1: the butt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was not a good Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean you can see. This is the second time
Speaker 1: I watched the episode. I watched it when it first
Speaker 1: came out, and I missed the bit where she's standing
Speaker 1: by the truck and she hears him say, yeah, that
Speaker 1: would be great, but I, you know, I don't want
Speaker 1: to let Liz down or something like that. And then
Speaker 1: I could see why she would do what she did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because originally I thought, why would she even do that?
Speaker 1: She's having a good time, but yeah, she thought she
Speaker 1: was doing something good. But here's maybe a theme of
Speaker 1: this show is just fracking talk to people. How hard
Speaker 1: is it to just talk to people?
Speaker 2: Unless it's the drunk driver who killed your mother? Maybe
Speaker 2: don't talk to him, I don't.
Speaker 1: Know, talk to him with your dad there is maybe
Speaker 1: in an office somewhere and not his place of work,
Speaker 1: and in an organized way.
Speaker 4: Yes, there you go.
Speaker 1: Certainly good to talk, not good to stalk. But oh dear,
Speaker 1: that is a that is a dilemma. Do we And
Speaker 1: I feel so bad for Sean.
Speaker 2: You know, I guess Sean's gonna have to confront a
Speaker 2: hard topic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, He's gonna have to do exactly what the
Speaker 1: theme for this season for him was set up to
Speaker 1: be right, so do hard things yep, and should be
Speaker 1: making contact with his family and reconnecting to people he
Speaker 1: knew before he got into Jimmy's orbit. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, you don't want to be ambushed with that, right,
Speaker 1: You want to give it some thoughtful consideration. Hey, Sean,
Speaker 1: if the time ever comes when you want to go
Speaker 1: in business with your dad instead of me, I'll be
Speaker 1: happy to sell my shares. I just want you to know,
Speaker 1: so it would take there. You go interesting the possibility.
Speaker 1: Over the course of the season, he thinks about it.
Speaker 1: Maybe at the end of the season you do it.
Speaker 1: And by that time she's really sick of having the responsibility.
Speaker 2: Right, She's like, I don't like getting up this earlier.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So she's ready to, you know, launch her baby bird
Speaker 2: out of her nest, like she wants to launch her
Speaker 2: own living child.
Speaker 4: She's like, please go.
Speaker 1: Oh the amount of leap that is going to hit
Speaker 1: the fan from that last scene, yeah, especially presuming they
Speaker 1: don't just kiss.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess we don't know that, well we will?
Speaker 1: You do? I know I don't because I have. I
Speaker 1: stopped when we started talking about them. I stopped watching
Speaker 1: them because it's just I was having trouble. Yeah, referencing
Speaker 1: things from other episodes. Yeah, because everything builds on everything.
Speaker 1: It's hard. It's it's hard to differentiate where one ends
Speaker 1: and the next one takes up.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely waiting, but I see things on social media. It's like,
Speaker 1: I want to go watch it. Yeah, Summer's reaction was
Speaker 1: on social media. Oh dear, because the the sad boy
Speaker 1: can't keep his freaking mouth shut. I would, yeah, but
Speaker 1: I do not know.
Speaker 2: Okay, anyway, well, perhaps we shall find out next week
Speaker 2: when we will discuss the fourth episode of season two.
Speaker 2: It is called Maybe You Look, And We'll see you
Speaker 2: back here tomorrow for our weekly Roundabout round up.
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