Speaker 1: Take the lead. Oh that's so funny. Hello, ladies and gentlemen,
to a very special first episode of a new review
series that we're doing for a show that we might
have talked about or a series that we might have
talked about the past. Before we get to that, I
am one of your hosts. I guess I'm Superman kirklem
Patzer and who am I joined by.
Speaker 2: With I'm the Gators Tanlerfield.
Speaker 1: Yes, we got the Gators, tether Field and Dexter Morgan.
So there you go. We're gonna be talking about Dexter
Original Sin. I had to look at the title because
I was thinking Dexter New Blood, Dexter, what's the what's
the other one too? That's gonna be coming out? We're
just in this universe of Dexter shows and is it
a good time? I don't know. Find out. Stay tuned
in the review and you'll hear our thoughts of course
spoiler free and then spoiler filled. But before we get
to that, shout out a couple of things. Taylor Field.
As of right now, it's December twentieth. It's been a
freaking busy month for us. You know, we got Christmas
coming up. We got New Year's coming up some time off,
which is nice for podcast wise as well as our
normal work schedule. But yeah, it's been a jam packed
month for us. We've done ton of reviews. We got
a plethora of shows that we've been watching and reviewing,
one that we might be you know, talking about and
breaking the fourth wall later on this evening as well,
Creature Commandos. We got Star Wars Skeleton Crew that's been
basically just you and me, and then we got the
d Muss with me doing War of the Row hearing review.
That was a good time. And then all three of
us did Craven the Hunter review. What else I did
September five review, which is yeah, that was a special
solo episode by myself. And this was all just in
this month alone.
Speaker 2: What else?
Speaker 1: Is there anything else I've forgotten on just the review
side of things, because you know, we got side Quests.
Dylan must have been popping off on side Quest. We've
had side Quest two times a week some of these
weeks maybe no times a week and one of the
other weeks. But uh, yeah, it's just been dumping out
the all this content for you find folks. To round
off twenty twenty four, and it's been a it's been
a hell.
Speaker 2: Of a year for podcasting for us, sure has I
think you covered everything? So yeah, just tons of reviews
and lots.
Speaker 1: Of newscast We covered a Superman trailer. That's kind of
why my name is still called Superman right now. But uh, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you got everything covered. Uh, it's a
good it's a good month. It's good month to be It's.
Speaker 1: A good month. Yes, ladies and gentlemen. You might be
wondering why, you know, I just says December twentieth. You know,
Dexter's been out for a week now, why why why
have you guys been covered already? I don't even know
of an excuse. I think it just I think it
just was a busy time and we didn't jump on
that first week. But here we are talking about first
three episodes. Yeah, we're here with a third Dexter show
and Taylor Field just some history I guess on Dexter
before we dive into this specific show.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I got onto Dexter, that whole bandwagon much
later than the norm. I think it would have been
like season five or six by the time I got
into it. I remember back when it was on Netflix,
and I put it on and I just binged through it.
And this is back in post high school days, I
still living at home, like like I'm talking like eighteen nineteen,
probably nineteen first not first job, like second job, and
it's just you know, had nothing going on. I was
chill and it was like, yeah, dexter, I just binged
through that so freaking fast. This is great. I think
this show is awesome. I loved it so much that
I rewatched the whole thing with my dad like a
couple of months later. It was just so good and
just eagerly awaiting the next season to come out, which
I think it was season seven, so I would have
binged through like the first six season. So season seven
came out and we watched that, and I didn't get
into the final season because it was eight. Right that
they did the whole finale that was questionable.
Speaker 1: Oh double check that.
Speaker 2: So that was one I didn't get around to watching
right away, but I started to hear things and eventually
I got through and I watched. I thought, man, that
really was a kind of a lackluster season. It was eight,
but it was eight, okay, yep. But I always did
enjoy that show and did enjoy that first season. I
ever watched the first season a few times because it's
just it's so good. And then here we are now
where we have de extra new blood that just came
out of nowhere, and that was hype and exciting. So
that was a great review that we did on the
show here. Oh yeah, but there's definitely some things that
didn't make it a perfect show, and it still felt
unfulfilled by the time we got to the end of that,
and out of the wise, they're like, oh, we'll do
a Harrison show, and then they were doing the Harrison Show,
and then they asked that and just like here we go.
We got Dexter Resurgence and Dexter Original Sin. And I
was not excited for Original Sin. I will be honest
and upfront with you guys on that. But now when
we kind of got with the announcement of Resurgence, I
got really excited for Resurgence because I wanted to see
them kind of like okay, like rebound and kind of
try again, keep it going. And I love the resurrection.
Speaker 1: A resurrect kept throwing me off when you're saying resurgence,
like this sounds like a Call of Duty deal, he's
Extra Resurrection.
Speaker 2: There you go. So that that show, it has me,
it has me have really really hyped. But when we
got to this and I thought, you know what, Okay,
I need to watch it because we're gonna be reviewing it.
And so I was. I was really feeling on a
well Joe that day, and I thought, I'm totally just
gonna pass that. I'm sure on the couch. After we
watched this episode, I put it on. I thought, oh, dang,
Like I was actively engaged the whole time. I wasn't
like drowsing off right, and I was like, man, this
is freaking awesome. This this show. This first episode had
so many isms to the original season of Dexter, and
I really liked it. And it just has this what
you should expect and you should anticipate coming. It just
catches you off guard. And when this moment happens, I
was smiling because I was like, holy fuck, and I'm
pointing at my screen like you son of a bitch,
like and I love that. I love that so very much.
And I just it was great. And I think that
the castings are actually really really well done, and I
like how they're trying to really focus on keeping it
within the world, and now we know that there's a
lot of flashbacks that happen to young Dexter and Harrison
when you're going through that original series. But I think
they do a good job at trying to navigate that
and keep things kind of cohesively in line for the
narrative for the most part. So I couldn't I couldn't
be very spot on accurate if things were breaking that
kind of cannon. But to me, it all lines up
and it makes sense, and I'm just I'm curious if
they're gonna kind of do another one of these shows,
because I think that the young versions of those original
characters are all really really well picked, Like Vince Masuka
is like great, they landed that character Batista, they landed
that character La Guerta, like all these young characters. It's
it's really incredible how they pulled that off. So I'm
really really really happy with that, And yeah, so far
the story is actively engage my interest, and I think
the show is surprisingly worth the watch too for many.
I do recommend it, and I think that a lot
of people might be caught off guard because I think
a lot of people are the same as me. Where
you go and think, oh, this is gonna be lame,
not going not going into this is really excited, YadA, YadA, YadA.
But give it a try, because once you get in there,
I think you'll be pleasantly surprised because that first episode,
it'll it'll hook you in.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it'll hook you with your little fingers. Yeah.
I little history of my Dexter experience. I jumped into
Dexter I think grade ten, like very specific memories, Grade
ten science. One of my buddies shouts out you Corey,
if you're ever listening to this. He was telling me
about Dexter and he was just hooked on it. And
I feel like there might have been like three seasons
out at this time, maybe four, I can't really remember,
but I don't know. It was around the time when
I like was just jumping on Netflix. I think I
was boring like someone else's login, and then saw it
on there, so I booted it up, and man, I
got fucking hooked so quickly. It it like it just
everything about it, of the charm of the character, the intrigue,
the mystery, the suspense that goes along with it, the humor,
like everything about the show was just amazing. And I
think I was also just like a new Netflix user
at that time, so like jumping on there and just
watching it like streaming, like just constantly. You just lose hours,
maybe days, especially back in school, you know, maybe if
it was like a holiday break or something like you
just you're not doing anything, especially if you don't have a
part time job or something so easy to binge. And yeah,
Dexter was amazing. I loved it. I was watching it
week to week for a couple of the later seasons,
but I was notorious for just waiting for the whole
season to come out and then just binging it because
I just that's what I love to do. So yeah,
I was basically catching up. I think season seven. You know,
I'm gonna not really say spoilers for anyone that hadn't
seen that show, but do you remember the Doomsday Killer?
Speaker 2: I do stuff?
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you know what season that is? Is
that like season seven? Or I want to say that,
because yeah, six happens seven, there's I'm pretty sure I
didn't get through seven. Honestly, I think I dropped off
pretty early on in season seven, just because of certain
character relations. I was just so out of what was
going on, so I didn't even make it to season eight.
Speaker 2: Actually seven is with Hannah McKay.
Speaker 1: Okay, I do remember seven actually, so maybe maybe it
was the start of season eight.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: For whatever reason, I bowed out and just kind of
chose to never go back. And uh, I'm not gonna
say I'm never gonna finish that show because you know,
spoiler for my thoughts on Dexter Original Sin, I feel
like it's very much getting me wanting to rewatch that show,
and I'm trying to convince she to jump on it
with me. She she watched Hannibal with me, and if
she can watch Annibal, she can watched she can watched
this for sure. But that's not what we're here to
talk about. We're talking We're talking about Dexter. And yeah,
of course we did Dexter new Blood. We did all
those reviews. Go check it out on the feeds if
you're interested in that. And I loved so much about
what that was. The reviews were just so fun to
cover as well. Yeah, no, it was a fun time.
I had a really good time with that show. But
like you said, Taylor, I agree, it wasn't perfect. It
definitely had some flaws in it, and here we are
Dexter Original Sin. Like you, I was really really, really
low on my hypemeter. I remember the last time that
we covered a trailer for this show, I just it
just made me want to watch the original show and
it didn't really boost my excitement for this specific show.
So going into it, I don't know, pretty luke temperature.
I didn't even do a solo review that first night,
so maybe it shows what my hype level was really
at for it. But yeah, I kind of binged the
first two episodes last night, and I am fucking loving
this show, Taylor Field. I like, I am actually digging
it so much. It is making me wanted to rewatch
Dexter a lot, and I think it's because they're able
to just really capture like what the especially the early
portions of the show are when you're kind of meeting
Dexter for the first time. Of course, it parallels that
really closely because it's a very similar dynamic. Like I
feel like we've seen a lot of like the same
sequencing of events, whether it's the donuts or him just
socializing with people and being socially awkward. It just seems
like a parallels so well. And I like the actor
Patrick Patrick Patrick Patrick Patrick Gibson, Patrick Gibson, that's his name. Uh,
just phenomenal casting choice. I think he captures so much
about what the Dexter mannerisms is, whether it is like
the awkward or the little like sly smirk that he has. Yeah. No,
I think there's so many moments that it just feels
like Michael sa Hall and then there's moments that it
doesn't feel like Michael Sea Hall, like very clearly. And Yeah,
but for the most part, I think it's fantastic. The
other likes, I guess. I say overall, the casting choices
are pretty damn solid. I think Deb is probably my favorite.
I feel like she is the closest to like the
original actress. It just the way that she says certain
words or you know, she's a big firecracker, always dropping
f bombs and stuff, and it just feels exactly like
Deb was. At least for me, that's the character that's
like the most similar. But a lot of other just
casting choices are very very similar to what the original
actors were. So yeah, shouts out to the casting director
and all that stuff, and the actors just being able
to capture the same essence. I feel like, I don't know,
we'll get into we'll get into it the specifics, but
when we get into it, But yeah, overall, I'm still
really digging the show. Yeah, I'm just really excited for
season for episode four now and uh yeah, I just
I don't know, I just want to jump into specifics.
It's just a really good show. And yeah, I would
say though, actually to close off my rounding my overall thoughts,
I feel like I would still recommend the original show
like it to someone that has never seen Dexter before.
I feel like it watching the original show and then
this just like supplements it in such a positive way
because they are able to capture a lot of the similarities.
But if you go into this and just like see
it for the first time, I feel like you're gonna
be missing out on like your first experience actually watching
like the original dex And yeah, I would say that
is a better version for sure, But I'm still really
digging what is shown here. And yeah, it's it's not
like a recreation of season one. It is an early
portion of our all the characters' lives and yeah, oh
I'm digging it cool, Well Well said, thanks me, And uh,
we'll think our first ad break, I think, and then
we're going to jump back and just splush right into
the pond of blood that is Dexter original Sin. We
were back tailther Field where I wanted to start because
I was trying to just lead into it. Christian Slater
as Harry. I feel like I am iffy on that
casting for Harry. I was kind of we're kind of
meaning about it, how Patrick, uh not? Patrick? Christian Slaters
is actually older, like in real life than what the
original Harry was at that time, and like, I don't know,
it was fun to kind of joke about. I didn't
really care about that necessarily going into this, but I
feel like Christian Slater for me, I don't have to
pull up like his specific IMDb because I don't even
know that I've seen him in a lot of things,
but he's just like, for some reason, I just can't
not see Christian Slater like when he's on screen, which
is weird because I really don't know many movies or
like stuff that he's been in. Withether It's TV shows
for me, like just watching the Office and when he's
in like the promotional video for Sabre and he's just like, Hi,
I'm Christian Slater. You're probably wondering why you know, and
like blah blah blah. I feel like I've seen that
episode just so many times. Every time I see Harry,
I just think, Oh, it's just Christian Slater. There is
some moments when he's like getting you know, all secretive
between him and Dexter and like talking about just I
don't know his just what he does and the Dark
Passenger stuff. I do see the Harry stuff, but for
the most part, that is like the most jarring casting
for me. I don't know, like if you feel the
same or if it's like, how's the hair casting for you?
Speaker 2: I think it's it's pretty perfect. I think it's it's
it's really really good. I totally works for me. I
don't think I've seen him at anything else aside from
because I'm looking at his roster here, I guess he
would be. He voiced someone in fern Gully, so there's that.
But I know I've I've seen Kevin Costner as Robin Hood,
Prince of Thieves, which is a Fantastic Movie and he's
in that. He plays Will Scarlett. He's just a young
stud in that movie. Yeah, so he's that's that's my
only affiliation with him as an actor. And yeah, he's
great in this. I think he he That's probably a
big component for I think a few people where they
look at the original actor for Harrison and then they
see Christen Slater here playing this version and yeah, just
him being older than what the character is supposed to
be right now too, That's it's interesting and maybe that's
why you get these flashback scenes. They just saturate the
shit out of them, and I hate it. I feel
like my eyes are turning to radioactive and I look
at it. It's like he's got the wig on and
they're making him look younger and all that. So they're
a big fan of the wigs here, But for me personally,
I'm I'm okay with him. I think he does a
good job as Harrison.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's Harrison.
Speaker 2: Harry, Harry, Harry Morgan. Sorry, Harrison's the grandson.
Speaker 1: He's also gonna be playing Harrison and going to be
playing that role. Yeah, so that's Harry and uh what else? Oh,
there we go that's where it's gonna go. Our main man, Dexter,
Dexter Morgan, how do you feel about this guy, mister
Patrick Gibson.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's doing a great job, and I think working
in tandem with Michael C. Hall as his kind of
heads or sorry word in his head. I love it.
I love it very very much, and I feel like
he is a young Dexter. He's got the mannerisms all
down and he's just it's great. The wig is definitely
that was off putting on the first episode, but you
know what, we're done that, we're past it.
Speaker 1: It never was not jarring though. That's the The thing
with the wig is like they captured it so well
because it's always just been like this ridiculous.
Speaker 2: That's right, and I think they've I think they know
that now and they just they just stick to that
and that's that's fine. That's fine. But yeah, he he
does a great job. He really does a great job.
I like his connections and interaction with the other characters,
and I like how in like episode two, he's like,
oh I got friends, and he's like being pranked and
he's so proud of himself for fearing like where the
guy the shooter was standing with the blood sprat splatter
and all that, and they're just like they're just bullshitting
him and like busting his balls a little bit, and
he doesn't understand it. But then he'll go too far
where he's trying to bust their balls, like, oh, you know,
you look like paraphrase and you can have a heart attack,
and he starts smiling like, dude, that's really dark, like
your dad just had one. He's oh, sorry. So he's
trying to learn, And I think that stems well with
the intro to the show, where it's the same intro
as the original show, but it's obviously reskinned for that
nineteen nineties aesthetic, and it just feels more like training wheels.
It's more sloppy, and it's just kind of like getting
into the groove of things. It's not like perfect as
that original Dexter show intro is, and I think that
speaks to Dexter here because he's not perfect. He's trying
to get refined and kind of find his footing and
do things here, and we see him kind of take
that next step because unless I missed it, he went
after the next target without Harry approving it, right, because
Harry only approved the nurse, and so here he was
going after that big guy. And even then, he hasn't
learned about his little like drug knockout thing yet, but
he's aware of it because the nurse was using it,
but he's not using it himself yet.
Speaker 1: Well, was that the same thing that he had used
in the original show? Was it a potassium?
Speaker 2: I believe that's it. Yeah, because they made a point
of saying like it's untraceable, it knocks you out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's okay. It just didn't seem like the effect
of what she was doing was to knock people out
with it like it was just but I guess it
was slower dosages and over multiple days just to kill them,
whereas when he does it, it like, I don't know,
it just seemed like a different type of drug. Oh,
maybe your tranquilizer the people.
Speaker 2: Maybe you're right, Oh, because I remember in Dexter new
Blood he was trying to get some and he had
to be licensed to get it, and he there's something
they highlighted the drug that he was using. Yeah, yes, yeah,
you might. You might be right about that.
Speaker 1: After Dack my statement, yeah, uh yeah, no, but just
speaking to like what you're talking about, like the intro,
and it just making it feel like the training wheels
are on for the character. And it very much feels
that way when he is doing like the killings and
everything and even just his reactions to everything, like it
really he makes it puts it in perspective to like the
first season of Dexter and you're going through just like
what he does and him explaining everything like he has
his boat already, like he has his blood slides, Like
it's just just so much more like professional and refined, right,
Like he has his like kill suit, he has the
exact same like materials that he buys every time. I
feel like now he just kind of puts a sheet
down and that's kind of good enough. And his takedowns
are like so sloppy where he just fucking just tackles
them into the ground and knocks them out that way
right where it's it's so much more professional when he
just sneaks up behind people and just like pokes them
with a needle and like that's it, Like he is
just so much more, yeah, just so much more of
an expert when we get him in the in the
original show, so you're in original sin. It's like, like
I like seeing those moments, like when he does tackle
the big dude near the end of this episode, I'm
just like fuck, like like this is so such a
bad idea. Even though he has the ambush ready for him,
you know it's dark, he's catching him by surprise, like
the big dude still gets like an elbow out on
him right like like just fuck, like anything can go
wrong where he just loses that battle and all of
a sudden he's just dead. There was a couple other
moments where I feel like he was just putting himself
in such peril for like absolutely no reason or like
it was so unnecessary, and I don't know, like like
like there's times when it's like, Okay, it's just because
he is such an unprofessional, but I feel like there's
also moments when it's just like so lucky that I
don't know, it's just kind of irolly, Like specifically when
the dude like shoots at him and he's just like, well,
I was counting on that so that I can just
like check the bullet. Like it was just so like, man,
he could have just killed you, even if he tried
to not shoot you, like it would have been so
easily to just take that to the head. So I
feel like that was a little bit ridiculous and it's
not even really addressed, like it's just like, oh, that
went exactly to my plan. And then I checked both
bullets as if he's Batman right like to like like
just trace. I thought he was gonna find a fingerprint
or something off the bullet, like literally like what Batman does.
So I was just I was kind of eye rolling
in that specific scene. But uh yeah, no, everything else
about just seeing and even just his like reactions to
everything because it is so new right like he used
to they showed him hunting with his dad and then
like it's not working for him anymore. And then when
he like like even when he murders the big chap here,
the big Loan Shark guy, as soon as he does it,
like he's just like shocked and raw, as if he
just like you know, like kill it his first something.
And yeah, no, I think the actor Patrick Gibson is
doing such a great job at like portraying that. I
feel like there is some moments when maybe he's talking
to like let's say deb or Harry or some other
like close characters to him where it just doesn't feel
the same as like how Michael C. Hall would like
just carry his voice or whatever. But specifically when he's
like like just socially awkward and like like just not
at like when Deb's friend like kisses him and he's
just like a stiff board or yeah, when he's like
fumbling around in the in Miami Metro, or like you said,
when they're like hazing him and he's just like so
like no social cues on like what is actually happening?
Like I think those moments are really Michael Sea Hall e.
And yeah, even even like some of his Serial Killer
moments when he's like actually like murdering people, I feel
like I am seeing a lot of Michael Sea Hall there.
So yeah, I think he's doing a really good job
for the most part. But yeah, no, I think Deb
is by far my favorite standout on just like the
parallel to the original actor, Like she just feels like
that actress, but just like however many years younger. Like
she's just so good with the way that she cares
her just her her body language, the way that she
like hits her lines. Part of me stuff like that
big standout. Angel's fantastic as well. Masuka. Honestly, like the
vast majority of all the characters are very very good.
And now that we have she's Christine Christine Million, I
think that's her name. I don't know. I've seen her
a few things. She's a very good singer. But yeah,
I think she's doing a really good job with that character.
But like most people in the show though, it's really
good casting.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. Yeah. I think that just one of the
highlights with with this is with him being in the
training wheels and just talking about his urges and going
out hunting and just kind of those familiar things in
that first episode to finally him catching and thinking, oh
my god, like there's an actual serial killer here. That's
what for me thought. I just felt like, Okay, this
is just that original Dexter kind of vibe when he
discovers a serial killer right in front of his nose
and I yeah, like super like eye rolly yeah, And
like so for me, that well, that's where I was
like pointing my hand like finger at the TV because
when like the nurses that scene, it was one of
those slim moost scenes the nurses hugging the family member
inside the room where they're putting the blanket over the
patient because they passed away, and Dexter just is watching
and noticing because his dad is in the hospital, and
he's looking at the nurse, and the nurse just like
her lip puckers up and she smiles a little bit.
I immediately was like, oh, she's.
Speaker 1: A fucking serial kill.
Speaker 2: Holy shit. And I was just super like excited, like,
oh man, this is this is how it's going down.
And then Dexter starts doing his research and he's following
his the code and everything like that. And when he
he stops the nurse from feeding that medication back into
Harry and again when he's like, I need to come
from Harry. I need his permission. He leans in, tells
Harry what's going on. Harry's like stop her. I'm like, oh,
our hero. We h well, I shouldn't say hero, our antihero.
I guess.
Speaker 1: So it's funny you say, you know that was your action.
Oh shit, she's a serial killer. This this was my reaction.
Oh shit, she's a serial killer. Like fuck, like we're
doing it just seemed so simple, and uh, you know,
Travis Snell shot to Travis snelly. He sent me a
note that I couldn't remember this because I didn't rewatch
the show recently, but apparently the nurse storyline is about
seventy five percent like reshot from the original show. Like
it like it's pretty much exactly what was shown in
the uh obviously not like all the scenes, but like
with the nurse just being his first victim and everything
like that, and just that she was a serial killer.
I didn't remember that at all, So like when that happened,
I'm like, really, this is so fucking convenient that like
he's in here for this reason, and then not only
is she a serial killer, but like the next victim
is his father, So this is gonna be like the
perfect pairing. When she's like right there in the room
and she's like about to kill him, and he's like,
she's like she's a serial killer, and right away he's
like take her out, like like fuck, are you kidding me?
Like that's just so I feel like right away it'd
be like, how do you know this? What's your evidence?
Like this is so very small percent of chance that
there's just like another serial killer in the room right
like and not I don't know it was just so
frustrating for me for the convenience of all that. So
I really was not a fan of that's that first kill.
Like I don't have a problem with the setup of
like this is what this serial killer is doing. I
just think it was so rushed on how it happened
that it was just like, oh, please, don't let this
be and then yeah, they like zooms in on her
smile and then he finds her like her little treasure chests. Yeah, yeah,
just like.
Speaker 2: Old your fucking work and her work.
Speaker 1: Like thing which has like nobody around. I guess I
don't know if you've been in a hospital, Taylor, but
like the nursing stations are packed all the time, like like,
I don't know, it was just it was very irolly
for me and convenient in all of that stuff. And
I mean I mentioned, uh, you know the loan Shark
thing with the gun, like that was just another one.
I'm like, this is so ridiculous where I'm sure like
the original show had that. Uh, I'm excited to rewatch
it and just kind of see some of the similarities
to that because there is some moments when Dexter just
gets himself into like a terrible situation that he gets
out very easily or very luckily. That maybe I'm just
I'm not remembering that, so maybe it is like very
true to what the original show is. But it's just
it's like, come on, man, this is just ridiculous here.
But but yeah, I don't know. I like the kill.
I like the kill, and it is justified, right.
Speaker 2: H yeah, no, it is justified. Yeah, I guess you
make a fair point. I don't remember this at all
on that original original show, so maybe subconsciously that's why
it worked for me, I guess. But yeah, hopefully then
they hopefully they keep it going and they don't have
him kind of like just sneak his way out easily
because you're right, I mean, especially dealing with this loan
shark very fluky. I thought he was going to inject
the guy with something, but no, he just goes on
for a full like sneak attack from behind, tries to
like make him pass out. Caused a lot of mess
because they knock all the ship off the counter, Like
he's got to clean this mess up now it looks
like a struggle. He's probably getting his DNA all over
the crime. Oh yeah too, like geez Louise. Not not
subtle at all. And I know he is one for
the flare of the theatrics where he puts his victim
in a place of my certain purpose because he does
that in the original show, right, it has meaning to
the killer and has meaning to what's supposed to like
what's going on. But in this whole fucking like stage
theater arena, I just I wouldn't feel comfortable if I
was doing it there, Like, my god.
Speaker 1: Man, there's gonna be like a janitor, you know, like
doing his night shift, like way up in the bleachers,
and it's just it's not even like it's a big
open area. And then he's in like a subtle area
like he's he's in like a spotlight dead center of
like the stage. It was just, yeah, that was that
was too much for me. If like I didn't like
that kill location, the one with the nurse, it made sense.
I thought he was just gonna kill him in his
house like where the bird was. I thought he was
just gonna throw him on the table. He's like, fuck,
that's a long way to bring him there. And I'm
sure that guy was like what, let's just say for
the sake of arguing like two forty, like just a
big motherfucker. Like plus he probably just stapled him to
the table and then brought the whole table with him.
Like it was just there was a lot of stuff
going on. He's got a tropical bird outside his house.
That's going to draw attention, becuse it's not like the
bird went anywhere, like it's a fucking cage bird. It's
probably just in the front yard lawn, and the people
are gonna be drawn to what you just said, Like
the just the struggle scene, very very sloppy.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be talking around that bird either, because when
it flew away Dexter before flew ay, Dexter's like go
find a new home or something like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's essentially what he said.
Speaker 2: You gotta be careful because yeah, the birds repeating ship
that you say, so it's very very dangerous.
Speaker 1: Very sloppy. Yes, Oh, I just lost my train of thought.
I was gonna add something.
Speaker 2: Well, here's a good shut out to actually to Mike
and the chat both of them. To start the prequel
with the spoiler of the current seasons makes it impossible
to start watching in the chronological order for new viewers.
Which is very true because you're getting basically the ending
of New Blood and the start of Resurrection here. And
I'm curious what you think of it because they're basically
showing Okay, Dexter is alive, but he's like flashing through
his eyes.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's not necessary, but I was fine
with it just because it's like, yeah, these shows are announced,
so let's just have them in this cop car and
then do like a like a trippy flashback sequence. It
ties all the shows together, right, Resurrection, new Blood, and
the original show like kind of all at once, like
in that shot, and then we go to the original
or sorry, yeah, we go to the original sin version
with the young actors. So I was fine. I also
like the line when he's just like, it's true, your
whole life flashes before your eyes and then it shows
him as like a baby, and that's just how we
get set up with this show. So I actually, I
actually like the decision to do that. But you're completely
not wrong, Mike. It is bold to just completely spoil
like like all of that stuff. I think, Yeah, No,
it's it is very bold because you're kind of you're
kind of what's the word, I'm looking for you kind
of putting, putting, like new audiences at a hurdle right
to like jump into the show, Like if they start
with this, like you just lose a lot of potential
gasping moments from the other shows because they are just
really trippy. I guess, I don't know. I guess there's
a lot of other twists and turns and what the
original show is, but to at least have them just
getting shot here, it's it's a wild moment. What else
that's super bad? Like say you said something else? I
also agreed with oh yeah, missed opportunity not calling it
Dexter new Blood or Dexter on Blood. I would have
liked that more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think them tackling the in between scene here
at the beginning of this prequel show definitely it is
bold and it does mess up the chronological order of
things because I think that someone not watching the original
show and New Blood and just going right into this
would have probably enjoyed it enough to go into that
original show and be like, Okay, like there's a lot
of continuation here. This is really cool and probably has
a degree of like, Okay, these characters that makes sense
with them kind of aging up to this next era here,
and yeah, so I think it does suck to have
it pulled out because you're gonna watch it and think, Okay,
what the heck is going on here? Why is Dexter
in the snow? Why is he just being like resuscitated here?
But maybe it's not enough to just think, like, Okay,
something just went wrong. You don't know Harrison was involved,
you don't know everything going on with Clancy Brown and
all that jazz. So, Harry, did you just say Harrison? Yeah? Yeah,
Well I mean like at the end of.
Speaker 3: New Oh okay, sorry, yes, yeah, So there's there's still
a little bit of mystery there, and it just makes
me wonder if we're gonna get how they're going to
bring in Harrison for for New Blood.
Speaker 2: But I digress. It's it is very bold, but it's
it's a way of them to kind of like tell
the story and serve this show up as a sequel
to New Blood at the at the same time as
it is a prequel, which is kind of weird. Uh
prequel sequel, I guess. Yeah, But yeah, where to next?
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We were back, taylor Field, We are back. Where do
you want to go next? Do you want to go
touch Upon? Just maybe some other characters, like, uh, I
feel like a sleeper Ope casting pick for me is
actually Angel Batista. I feel like I'm I'm kind of
surprised how little he's like engaging with Dexter and maybe
just events that are having happening. But I I think
I kind of like that because we just get a
lot of those, Like, you know, we get a lot
of Batista, we get a lot of LaGuerta. I know
she kind of just got introduced a little bit later
on Masuka. You know, we get a good amount, not
too much, because he can be a lot. But uh, yeah, no,
I I think these are really great casting choices. Like
Angel is, like, man, it's tripped me out watching him.
I feel like he is like the same actor James
Martinez is they I can't remember what the original actors is,
but yeah, no, I think they're I like that they
are not just like the main focus like they are
in the original show. It makes this show different than
what that one is. So oh and then I guess
Sarah Michelle Geller's character that's a that's a new one.
And Patrick Dempsey's character Captain Aaron Spencer. Do you like
these new editions?
Speaker 2: Yes, I really really do. I think that Sarah Michelle
Gellar's character Tanya Martin, she's awesome. I really really like her,
and I like that she's basically leading the charge here
and taking Dexter under her wing and showing him the
ropes and all that kind of stuff, and it's it's
definitely like I was watching an interview with Sarah Michelle
Giller and how she was talking about the character and
how it's again it's that nineties scenario where you're still
dealing with men being men in a men's world kind
of a thing, and she's gotta, like really just be
more of a tougher character because she's dealing with men
that look down like, oh, you know what, you can't
do this job. And so she's she kind of I
feel like she kind of holds it over Dexter but
has respect for Dexter, but you know what, She's like,
go get the coffees. Yeah, yeahda YadA, and then he
comes back becaus Okay, now we're gonna like take notes
and if you mess up, like it's your ass kind
of a thing. Like she's she's not light on him
just because he is Harry's son and he's good at
what he does. He's got the best grades in school.
Yeahdy YadA YadA. So I like that. I think she's
tough as nails, and I think I think it's gonna
be neat to see how a lot of how her
her character is going to kind of seep over into Dexter,
and I think, and at least I hope that this
story will be written where we get to see how
Dexter is and how he works in the original show
is kind of attributed to her and how she operates.
And I'm just curious, Okay, is she gonna retire like
how and what is her exit strategy for the show
and for Dexter to take over that position? And a
part of me, a part of me thinks, what if
they have Dexter murder her.
Speaker 1: She's gonna wake up in a sea can with this
plan the Bayou Bayuki Bayou. Yeah, no, I think she's
getting murdered. I don't know if it's gonna be Dexter,
because you know, he always that's part of the code.
Is Tonover killed an innocent person, and she seems like
a very innocent person obviously, you know, it could be confused,
like you know, shouts out of the Trinity Killer like
he seemed very in the sin right and he's a
complete monster. So yeah, no, I would be surprised of
if it is Dexter. I think I think it would
be a good like setup for like a revenge kill
if she does get murdered by someone and then Dexter's
like just seeing red and wants to kill them, because
I don't know, like it is early in the relationship.
I am really liking the character and just yeah, like
her her dynamic with Dexter because like he's he is
like a serial killer, but I feel like he's also
just a phenomenal detective because of the way that he's
able to just analyze certain things with his tweaked brain.
But he still has a lot to learn, right, And
she's obviously very skillful. She's in her position for a reason.
So yeah, I like that dynamic a lot.
Speaker 2: And uh yeah, yeah, I agree with you and everything
about Batista. The casting is just spot on perfect. And yeah,
Patrick Dempsey playing a great captain. This is obviously before
LaGuerta becomes becomes captain, and so we've got a few
captains I'm assuming away before she takes up that mantle.
And then we got Detective Watts, and I wasn't sure,
like I wasn't following his name. I was like, hang
on this doakes and then know they're like, oh, it's
Bobby Watt. Is the characters and I was like, okay, okay, so, yeah,
Doakes is not here yet, and I'm I feel like
maybe he's like a later kind of thing that appears.
I can't remember his story exactly in the first season
of the original show when they kind of allude to
him being introduced, but it's he's not there from the
start obviously as for this show, and it makes sense
he's the one that doesn't trust Dexter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, yeah, I feel like, out of any character
to leave out, that one makes the most sense because
at the start of season one, he's like a big
factor against Dexter, right, And like, I don't really want
to just start that here when we're already just trying
to focus on Dexter. Like, like, I feel like Doakes
is such a firecracker that he draws a lot of
attention on like just viewings of the show. So I'm
okay with him being left out, But yeah, I don't know,
you're you're kind of bringing it up earlier just what
the potential future of this specific show is because I
am really liking what I'm seeing, like I would take
more of it, But it gets to that point, right
of like what time do you kind of have to
pull the pin because you're just going to be retelling
like season one of the original show. So it's a
little bit tricky there. But I do want to see
more of these characters and everything and just how they're
interacting with each other. I feel like because of like
the main core being like Dexter, Morgan, Debra, and even
Harry in there. Like for the most part, I feel like,
as long as Harry isn't dead, you can do a
lot with this show. But once he dies, then you're
getting closer to the events of what the start of
the show looks like. But like Debra, she feels very
young still, right, Like, she feels very like early college
days or whatever the hell here? Ages she in high school?
Is that what this is? Yeah, volleyball players.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's high school.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I mean I imagine she joins the force
barely Reese like, fairly after That's what we were to
say that fairly soon after high school there you go.
And I can't remember if it's after or before Harry
bites the bullet.
Speaker 2: I want to say it's after because I feel like
that's kind of what sets her up on that sets
her up, Yeah, which is. I mean, that's again an
interesting dynamic to the characters because you have him alive
and him being there while Dexter is on the Force
and Dexter's going through this career with Miami Metro, and
then you have no Harry and deb trying to make
a name for herself and moving into the Force. So
very different dynamic of relations between two characters with the
same same father. Yeah, did you remember in the original
show if we knew that Harry had another son that drowned?
Speaker 1: Uh No, And thanks for bringing that up, because mister
Travis Snell sent me another note that apparently Harry losing
his son is new to the canon, never mentioned in
the original show ever, so this is a new edition.
I don't know's I feel like it's not that much
of like a like a cannon change an event for
me to like really affect what happened in the original show.
I think it actually adds to it because it makes it.
It makes the attachment I think to Dexter and Harry
a lot more believable. Well not so much more believable,
but it just makes it stronger in the sense of
like he lost a son. Here he had a son
and then of course that we're getting through these flashbacks
of the dynamic between Dexter's mother and Harry. So just
just all these things, I feel like actually add to
the overall. Yeah, just bonding of those characters. So I
I like the decision. It was a very fucked up sequence.
I actually thought it was Dexter. Like when when they
were doing the flashback, I thought I thought that was
Dexter in the pool, and I'm like, holy fuck, is
this why? This is why he becomes like a sale killer.
He has like brain damage or something from being underwater.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: And like the dummy that they had for like the child,
Like it was a really good looking dummy. I feel
like I could, you know, tell it wasn't a real child.
But like there's just moments when like Christian Slater is
just like handling this like rubber child, just like whipping
them around, and it was just it was shocking to see.
But uh, yeah, that was kind of a gut wrenching
sequence because they don't waste any time like all, like
you know, it does that. And then you just see
the little body with like the body bag going in
the corner and like just oh, like just makes you
feel so gross, right, and then of course the mom
gets home and that's the beginning of the end of
their relationships. That's yeah, very heavy scene, so very powerful,
like cannon shift, because it is just such a big
moment for anyone. Hopefully that never has to go through
that I can only imagine. But yeah, no, it's just
it was a it was eye opening moment, especially because
I just thought it was dexter and I'm like, what
the fuck is going on here? But no, he lost
his son. But yeah, likes Travis Snell for mentioning that
because I did not know that that was a new
cannon shift.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Interesting, new new pivot, I guess for the character.
And yeah, it just goes to show that Harry was
definitely not perfect, which I.
Speaker 1: Just crushing the beers, you know, watching his dolphins. Yeah, yeah,
we're going to score.
Speaker 2: Come on, junior, junior, look at that. Just oh not good,
not good, very not good. Yeah. I also am curious
too about how that's going to go because you say
the beginning of the end of the relationship and we
know that okay, they're still trying, and through the flashbacks
of him where we see how he's introduced to Dexter's
mom and has Dexter's mom kind of being his go
to girl now eyes on the inside with this whole
like cartel drug case, and obviously it seems like they're
going to have it so that they sleep together. This
was the kind of tension that I got with this
last episode. And at the same time, we know, okay,
things are not going well with his wife at home
because his wife is getting test results saying yeah, negative,
So they're trying to have another kid, and it's like, oh,
God just doesn't want to step another kid because we
lost one and so forth. So it's because I don't
think we've seen deb at any point yet as a
kid here or young, So I'm wondering when she's gonna
kind of pop up. But it must be around this
time because she's only right. Well, maybe it would have
been shortly after, because depending how things go, I think
we're going to see Dexter's mom bite the bullet here
soon through flashbacks.
Speaker 1: And then I thought it was happened to her. Yeah,
I thought so too, when he was able to find
her and keeps just fucking showing these crates and of course,
you know, we know what happens there, but yeah, yeah,
I was worried and I agree. I think we are
very much gonna see that and see Christian Slater's reaction.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, big shout out to the Ice Truck Killer.
We got a very chilling moment there when the mom
is like picking up Dexter like this, or and holding
Dexter and is like, yeah, this is Dexter and that's
Brian over there, and the camera does a great job
but just like low key just staying on him for
a bit and him watching Harry and as a fan,
you know, it's like, man, that's that fucked up serial killer,
you know, brother that we see in that first season,
And it was just it felt eerie and I like
that kind of looming intent that it had there, even
though it was not foreshadowing anything to a random you know,
if you're a random fan just watching the show for
the first time, you're not gonna know. And I think
that that actually, uh, that's that's nice. They didn't spoil that,
which is really really good of them to do. They
just kind of they just they just put it there.
So thank you for not spoiling it for any new people.
Speaker 1: And if you're still the end of your new Blood.
You know, they spoil that We're He's not dead, that
were getting another show, but yeah, they left that up. Yeah, no,
I thought it was a good amount, like they might
just be curious of like, well, I wonder what happened
to Brian. Well do I have a show to recommend
for you? But yeah, what else do we got on
the pipeline here? I guess, Yeah, we already talked about
we were talking about new characters. Captain Aaron Spencer seems
kind of sus in some ways. I don't I don't know,
Like he's obviously a big hater of Maria Leaguerta, but
I don't know, was that.
Speaker 2: Is he a hater?
Speaker 1: It seems like it, right because she like talked shit
about other cops. That was like the big thing that
Angel said to Dexter's like, we look after our own.
And then uh like because when when she like came
to the office, he's like, oh, low cooie got blah
blah blah, And he's like, because I think she's just
like probably rated out corrupt cops or something. I can't
remember exactly what happened to the scene, but something that he
doesn't like. And then Harry's talking to the Captain and
then he closed the door, and then it's like, yeah,
I want you to keep an eye on right, even
though every time that we see her, she's doing something
like very wholesome, you know, she's like helping out that
that poor lady with her with her child, helping her out,
getting to her like a shelter. So I think I
think she's gonna be like the character that's just always
seen like super good. And then we'll see like why
she became captain, you know, like always doing that. And
then I feel like her and Harry are gonna have
like a powerful uh connection, you know, nothing sexual or anything,
but just just just just a nice friendly relationship and
just a lot of respect I think, like mutual wise.
But yeah, and then we have some poor Judge's son
that's losing limbs and fingers by the day, pretty like
just a dark like event overall, just like a child kidnapping.
And it's not like it's just resolved after one episode.
Like here we are three episodes in and he's still
like they're feeding in these little lunch a bowls with
some grapes, but you know it costs him a finger
every time and yeah, I know it's pretty dark there.
I thought that this killer was actually gonna lead us
like pretty much right to it, you know, the loan
Shark guy. But yeah, no eyes. It seems like it's
gonna be I don't know, like a whole season thing,
but like at least half the season, right, Like we're
already three episodes in and he's still really nowhere close
to getting home. And it seems like Patrick Dempsey's character
is getting pretty like personal with it because I think
he mentions that his son is like friends with the
boy that was taken. Yes, so, and yeah, you know
he's looking right in the camera like there's a warning,
I'm coming out, I'm coming for you, that's right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see him get killed by the character
drug folks.
Speaker 1: So oh yeah, definitely, yeah, that would be unfortunate.
Speaker 2: But yeah, like I feel like these you know what
in retrospect now we already talked about with the Sara
Michelle Galler's character, but all of these these three newcomers,
and like, yeah, with Bobby Watt talking about like the
cholesterol stuff, I could see him having a heart attack
and dying. That's just foreshadow And I could see Patrick Demp.
I know, Bobby Watt, he's the guy thought was Doakes
initially talking about like the made the heart attack joke.
And so then you have Patrick Dempsey's character where you
know what, he makes this threat to the mob or
the cartel, and then maybe the cartel is the one
that kills him in the end. And then you got Yes,
Sara Michelle Galler's character, who we already discussed could eat
it as well. I think all of them are up
on the chopping block to get to get killed in
this in the season.
Speaker 1: So that's what happens when you ad new characters, right
Like Batista pretty confident he's not gonna die. You know,
Marie Leguanta pretty confident she's not gonna die at least now.
And yeah, same with Masuka. Masuka's just just protected. And
I feel like he was always raunchy in my mind
in the in the old show, but I feel like
he's just turned up in this in this one. I
don't know if you feel that as well, Like like
when he goes to the booth and he's like not
even acknowledging, Dexter, you totally cock blocking my my booth
here man, And he's just like being such a little weasel.
But no, he's doing a good job at capturing the masukaisms,
and like I was saying earlier, I'm glad it's not
too much Masuka because he can get a lot. You know,
you can only do so many dick jokes. But I
laughed when he said He's like, you're come to titty
Tuesdays with me. And then that's when he's saying, Tanya
Sarah Michelle Geller's character can't can't hear him, and then
she comes in stop talking about titty Tuesday's like, oh shit,
maybe she can't hear us, And then he gets the
it's fake id.
Speaker 2: They addressed that too in this In This The lightlatest episode,
which is funny one, Harry's like the batista like, oh,
you need to take Dexter out with your night, just
kind of like, you know, help them out a little bit,
take one of your wing. And then that pattists actually
bring the souk on. Harry's like, you know what I
think in small doses, like in the office, goes behind
this girl and starts like.
Speaker 1: Oh, I know, yeah, sexual harassments like every day this
guy my god. Yeah, but uh yeah, that's Matsuka for you.
M h, what else we canna say? Oh yeah, something
else with Dexter that I'm finding interesting and I'm curious
kind of what is going to change it is his
body drop off. At the end of this latest episode,
it seemed like a lot of focus on specifically the
hand with the ring. I imagine maybe that won't be
fully eaten by alligators and crocodiles and maybe someone might
find it. Maybe I'm completely wrong by that, but it
just seemed like a lot of focus like, oh, he
forgot to take off this one ring, or maybe it
was just saying like a missed potential on a trophy.
And then of course we see the early stages of
his trophies here, and it started with just like the
ear rings, and then Debs going through his fucking panty
drawer and finds these ear rings, Like what an asshole, sister,
But uh yeah, bold of him to hold on to them. Obviously,
that's something that we see carry forward throughout the show,
you know, just evolves into something a little bit more discreet.
But uh yeah, I like just the origin I think
of his obsession with the trophies and how Harry's like,
don't keep the trophies. You can't do this, you know,
it's evidence, it's it's something that pulls against you. But
oh my gosh, those guys needs there.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, hold it, then hold it then.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I got it for now. It might come back.
But it's it's something that he like is important to him,
like he needs to remember these and Harry just doesn't
understand that because it's not his brain's not wide the
way that that Dexter's is. Yeah, what's that? I don't know? Really,
I have to juice out of these episodes here.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, it's it's just a really really solid show and
something that I was very surprised about because where my
high level is at. And uh oh, that was the
other note that Travis had sent me that the like
the credits is the exact same song. Actually, no, we
already talked about that, didn't we the ordings the original credits.
It's been a long it's been a long day. But
uh uh yeah, I love the credits. But the music
and everything and just the vibe and the humor, it's
very much that original Dexter. And I'm digging it. I'm
digging it. I'm down, I'm down to come back next week?
You down come back next week.
Speaker 2: I'm down to come back next week. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do we know if it's sorry?
Speaker 2: Do we know one episode next week.
Speaker 1: Two episodes every week or is it just this week
for some reason.
Speaker 2: Just this week for some weird reason, I know, idea
just out of the blue.
Speaker 1: They're taking like Christmas off or something like. It's weird,
it's a weird time.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'll check the release schedule again for
for these episodes, because that was just how the blue.
Travis just messaged me saying, it's like it's two episodes, like, oh, okay,
sure whatever.
Speaker 1: See it says, yeah, so weird, it's weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's okay. I'm I'm happy with where we're
at so far. I'm definitely gonna keep on watching this
and I'm excited to see where the show is going
to kind of go and end off on Uh, it's
it's just sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 1: It ends on Valentine's Day. It ends on Valentine's Day
is Friday this year?
Speaker 2: Is it really? Valentine's Day is also the day that
Assassin Screech Shadows releases, and there's something else that releases
then too, I can't remember, like it ends on Valentine's Day.
That's too. That's like over two months. I feel. Oh,
it's about just two months now. Yeah, wow, that's a
long time. This is an eight episode series or ten
ten ten? Okay, okay, I thought it was eight. That
makes sense.
Speaker 1: Maybe they want to you know, end it specifically on
Valentine's Day. That's why they doubled up this week. Who knows,
Maybe it's something very romantic. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Closing thoughts, this is just it's great. I'm very, very
happy with this show, a lot more than I thought
I was going to be. And maybe that's my own
kind of thing where I went in with low expectations
and have come out now with it being enjoyable because
it has met those low expectations and surpassed them by
quite a bit. I think that the character castings are fantastic.
I think the story so far is really engaging. I'm
enjoying it, and I think that there's just a lot
of things in this world that they've kind of rekindled
and reattached to that I can really appreciate and get behind.
And I'm going to be talking about it with with
you know, friends and I'm just excited to kind of
be back in this kind of vibe where Dexter is
becoming Dexter and getting better at his his whole gig.
So yeah, I'm I'm very much happy that we have
this show. Oddly enough, and you know, if we were
just getting the show and we were not getting Resurrection,
then that would be a little bit more sour because
I would have liked to gotten something. But hey, we're
we're getting both in this world now, and I'm very
thankful for that and happy so that again, I feel like,
in turn makes me appreciate having this show a little
bit more as well, just because we're getting kind of
be like double dipping, I guess you could say, But
I digress. So go watch the show. If you haven't
watched the show, you just listen to the review. Go
watch the show.
Speaker 1: You'll enjoy it. It's probably better than this review. No,
there's some good good stuff I said tonight, But cool,
right on, And gentlemen, thanks for joining to the field,
Thanks for being with me, and tune in next time
and we will be there.