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Speaker 2: All right, let's get it started, ladies and gentlemen. It
Speaker 2: is the five o'clock hour here on a game day
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Speaker 2: Montgomery alongside today as we take you up until six o'clock.
Speaker 2: And I don't want to overdo it, but there are
Speaker 2: things that we as Louisville basketball fans are experiencing for
Speaker 2: the first time in a long time, and it's a
Speaker 2: good feeling. And today's one of those days because you know,
Speaker 2: this is the first weekday into the new year winter,
Speaker 2: clearly with the weather outside, and it's an ACC game. Man,
Speaker 2: The ACC clearly is not in a great about right now.
Speaker 2: But you could take advantage of that if you're Louisville,
Speaker 2: and I hope that they do. Maybe they already have,
Speaker 2: considering they're off to a to a three and one
Speaker 2: start in league play, but it just feels like what
Speaker 2: it used to feel like, kind of right. I mean,
Speaker 2: this is not Louisville as a top ten team hosting
Speaker 2: another top twenty team. You know that that's not where
Speaker 2: Louisville is anymore, at least not right now, and certainly
Speaker 2: the ACC. So I knew this would happen, and I thought,
Speaker 2: maybe kind of knowing it, getting ahead of it, realizing
Speaker 2: that little things that we used to just take for
Speaker 2: granted that wouldn't even appear on the radar for us,
Speaker 2: will start to be fun because of you know, I
Speaker 2: mean we were We were lifeless for a couple of years.
Speaker 2: And when I say that, I mean we, I mean
Speaker 2: you just we still watched I did postgame shows. People
Speaker 2: reacted to it. It was something that that you thought about,
Speaker 2: probably more than you even wanted to, because it's unnatural
Speaker 2: as a Louisville basketball fan to not be locked in
Speaker 2: during basketball season. That's what we were dead like. There
Speaker 2: was no talk about can we make the tournament? Can
Speaker 2: we Like it's a weird feeling, but like there are
Speaker 2: some people that even towards the end, probably didn't want
Speaker 2: to see Louisville play well because it might it might
Speaker 2: give you a panic attack thinking that maybe somebody like
Speaker 2: Kenny could have won eight more games and they still
Speaker 2: should have fired him. No, I don't know if they
Speaker 2: would have, but like that's the reality of it. Like
Speaker 2: if you have a guy that you know has a
Speaker 2: low ceiling or not a ceiling at all, and you're
Speaker 2: a program like Louisville, like the sooner you cut ties,
Speaker 2: the better it is, because you just know that that
Speaker 2: guy's not going to be able to get you where
Speaker 2: you want to be. So that's where we were for
Speaker 2: two years, and then before that it was the slow
Speaker 2: decline and the pandemic. And I mean, I really you know,
Speaker 2: to go back to the feelings that we knew would
Speaker 2: we hoped, i should say, would be here once again,
Speaker 2: and knowing they would feel good. I mean two things
Speaker 2: today have just kind of stood out to me as
Speaker 2: I'm getting ready for the show. I'm going to the
Speaker 2: game tonight, looking forward to being there. I'm taking them
Speaker 2: a family, and you know, I'm excited. But knowing that
Speaker 2: there's a conference game that you feel good about and
Speaker 2: if you win against a good team, there's going to
Speaker 2: be real value and having legitimate belief, like sometimes fans
Speaker 2: are just going to assume their team's going to win
Speaker 2: or approach it as from a fans perspective with a
Speaker 2: positive mindset. It has nothing to do with the actual
Speaker 2: game itself. But like I get while people do that, right,
Speaker 2: you know what, he miserable. You want to, at least
Speaker 2: until the game starts, feel like, hey, let's go do this,
Speaker 2: let's go win. So you know that's always there to
Speaker 2: an extent with some fans, but this is legit, Like
Speaker 2: Louisville is favored tonight and if they win, that'll be
Speaker 2: another good win for them. And I think fans aren't
Speaker 2: being homers and saying, yeah, let's go win this. We
Speaker 2: feel like we are the better team. We're at home,
Speaker 2: we're playing good basketball. Let's go see where we stand.
Speaker 2: So that's a good feeling that I'd missed. But also
Speaker 2: the bracketology stuff, like just to know that, hey it's
Speaker 2: January Selection Sunday, a couple months away, and we are
Speaker 2: in position now that I don't want to say you're
Speaker 2: in the driver's seat because that's kind of unknown, right,
Speaker 2: Like if you end up beating the teams that you
Speaker 2: know you're supposed to beat, but you lose to the
Speaker 2: teams that are projected to beat you given where those
Speaker 2: teams are, meaning the ones that like you're supposed to
Speaker 2: lose to Pittsburgh. I mean, they're what a seven seed
Speaker 2: was in an eight seed. Let me pull it up
Speaker 2: here like that kind of you know. Anyways, back to
Speaker 2: the bracketology stuff, like Louisville, I kind of feel like
Speaker 2: the way they've played in what they've shown and given
Speaker 2: the momentum that they've had in these last couple of games,
Speaker 2: and looking at the rest of the league, it's just
Speaker 2: nice to know that, yeah, we should be in the
Speaker 2: tournament now. Who knows if that ends up happening, and
Speaker 2: if it doesn't, maybe there are some unfortunate reasons, maybe
Speaker 2: somebody gets hurt. Hopefully that doesn't happen. They've been bitten
Speaker 2: by the injury bug bad enough already. But it's just
Speaker 2: it's just nice to have life back within the program.
Speaker 2: And I know there are still some folks talking about
Speaker 2: attendance and Louisville, you know, just not moving the needle
Speaker 2: around here like it once did. And those people aren't wrong,
Speaker 2: but I don't know why. If you're a fan and
Speaker 2: you care about it, you're going to I mean, you
Speaker 2: can't control it. All you can do is your part
Speaker 2: and show up support. And you know, I don't know
Speaker 2: if this is true or not. But I believe that
Speaker 2: if Louisville basketball starts putting together good seasons consistently, this
Speaker 2: thing will be back to where it once was. I
Speaker 2: don't know if you're going to see the same numbers
Speaker 2: you saw previously, meaning in the Patino era, because that
Speaker 2: was a different time and it really, you know, clearly
Speaker 2: Rick and Tom had people wanting to come to games.
Speaker 2: I mean not just those guys specifically, but it was
Speaker 2: just different. Let's be really, it was those guys were
Speaker 2: different and things were great, and you know, that was
Speaker 2: a long time ago. Now we've got to move on.
Speaker 2: But I think there could be programs that maintained their
Speaker 2: status within college basketball for fifteen twenty years, and yet
Speaker 2: I bet their attendance for games, like you know, the
Speaker 2: Dougs is probably lower now than it was ten years
Speaker 2: ago because now people can just be Again. It goes
Speaker 2: back to the whole season ticket conversation. You can go
Speaker 2: to every game you want and save a ton of
Speaker 2: money because you're not paying a big donation and you're
Speaker 2: not paying the price for season tickets. So that's just
Speaker 2: what people do now. So anyways, I know that there's
Speaker 2: you know, I guess more than anything. I'm a little
Speaker 2: insecure here as a lois basketball fan because I am
Speaker 2: giddy about where where things are right now, Like this
Speaker 2: has been fun. Austin and I and my wife of course,
Speaker 2: we went to the game the other night against Carolina.
Speaker 2: That was such a good time. It was a fun time, man,
Speaker 2: that I felt alive, like I felt, you know, and
Speaker 2: I've enjoyed watching this team when they've had their success
Speaker 2: throughout the season so far, but being there being a
Speaker 2: part of it, like it was a big step for
Speaker 2: me is like, man, that was awesome, and I thought
Speaker 2: the Tennessee game was going to be that and you
Speaker 2: know we were wrong about that. So I guess I'm
Speaker 2: insecure because I know that it sounds like I'm giving
Speaker 2: ammunition to you know, the rivalry, and I shouldn't care
Speaker 2: about that, but you know, I know how it works,
Speaker 2: like me just being excited talking up Louisville Clemson tonight,
Speaker 2: Louisville playing an unranked team, Louisville being a bubble team,
Speaker 2: They're probably not being anywhere close to a sellout, and
Speaker 2: yet I'm this excited, Like I know people are like, wow,
Speaker 2: that's that's sad. Can you believe what's happened, Like, no,
Speaker 2: none of us can jackass. Nobody would have believed that
Speaker 2: the program would have gone through the last few years
Speaker 2: had you told us ten fifteen years ago, like nobody
Speaker 2: would have believe you. But it happened. What do you
Speaker 2: want us to do? I mean, so I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: be me and be giddy like a schoolboy and be
Speaker 2: excited because I think the momentum and the vibes, the
Speaker 2: energy is great right now with Louisville basketball. And if
Speaker 2: that continues, which I think Pat Kelsey's shown that he
Speaker 2: should be able to have success here. If this continues,
Speaker 2: then then I think you'll start to get Louisville basketball
Speaker 2: really commanding attention around here like it once did. But
Speaker 2: it's natural, it's it's it should have been expected to
Speaker 2: have a little bit of a slow, gradual build back
Speaker 2: up whenever you had the stretch that you had that
Speaker 2: you know, I'd like to pretend never happened. But man,
Speaker 2: in a weird way, and again this is where I
Speaker 2: feel like I'm I'm talking to like a psychologist or something,
Speaker 2: or a therapist. You know. I thought the new energy,
Speaker 2: the new life, the excitement that comes with it would
Speaker 2: make me just kind of forget about. Like Kenny Payne,
Speaker 2: I would find myself thinking, Oh, there's no way that happened, right,
Speaker 2: like clearly, I mean, look at this, these guys are
Speaker 2: playing their ass off, They're playing hard, they got a
Speaker 2: good coach out there. This is awesome. Like it would
Speaker 2: make me I assumed had this if you had told
Speaker 2: me this was going to play out the way that
Speaker 2: they did, I would have assumed that I would have
Speaker 2: been somewhat in disbelief that we went through what we
Speaker 2: went through. But in fact, I'm actually reminded of it
Speaker 2: all the time because if there's anything that I can
Speaker 2: take from it is it's made me appreciate things that
Speaker 2: I honestly probably never appreciate. Right Like I was, I
Speaker 2: was growing up in the nineties with Denny's teams. In
Speaker 2: the nineties it was hit or miss, and the teams
Speaker 2: that I idolized, you know, weren't elite. I mean the team
Speaker 2: that I fell in love with that I became obsessed with,
Speaker 2: where I first got the itch and I was hooked
Speaker 2: was the nineteen ninety seventeen with Dwan Weed and Alvin Simms,
Speaker 2: Bozac Smith, PJ. Flynn, Damien Danzler. I mean that was
Speaker 2: that was my squad, and I love those guys, love
Speaker 2: that team. I cried when they lost. I was I
Speaker 2: was obsessed. So I was so young, I didn't I
Speaker 2: knew they were good, but like I didn't, I wouldn't
Speaker 2: pay attention to what seed they were. I was eight
Speaker 2: years old, so I didn't really you know, I didn't
Speaker 2: really care at that age, like good or bad. I
Speaker 2: just loved him, right, Like Moose is just now and
Speaker 2: he's smarter than I was. I guess, but he's four
Speaker 2: and he now knows like, hey, dad, did we win
Speaker 2: or we lose? I don't just care that we I
Speaker 2: don't care that we played. We need to win go cards,
Speaker 2: like we need the go cards to win. So, you know,
Speaker 2: I when I became sort of I guess, you know,
Speaker 2: a college basketball super fan rather than just a Louisville
Speaker 2: basketball super fan. From then on, a down year for
Speaker 2: me was Louisville like maybe missing the tournament, Denny's last year,
Speaker 2: which was terrible, that kind of stuff. So I was
Speaker 2: spoiled to where again like I never I never had
Speaker 2: to really appre like things that were just a given
Speaker 2: and were the obvious. I just it was you know,
Speaker 2: you could do that, like you could beat teams about
Speaker 2: fifty in the non conference portion of your schedule and
Speaker 2: and still think, okay, are we need good or not? Well,
Speaker 2: then you know what happened the last few years. It
Speaker 2: was just a much different, much different world. So a
Speaker 2: lot of college basketball games. Tonight, Kentucky taken on Georgia.
Speaker 2: Let me double check here to see if there's any update,
Speaker 2: and this spread, uh, Kentucky was favored by two and
Speaker 2: a half their first SEC road game, coming off a
Speaker 2: big win. In fact, now it's down to Kentucky minus
Speaker 2: one and a half huge road win, I'm sorry, a
Speaker 2: huge home win for Kentucky against Florida. And that game
Speaker 2: reminded me of this Kentucky team and where they're the
Speaker 2: most dangerous. And there are teams out there that want
Speaker 2: to do what their opponent wants to do because they're alike,
Speaker 2: meaning they realize the best version of ourself is when
Speaker 2: we are doing this. It just so happens that this
Speaker 2: team we play, they're in the same boat, meaning the
Speaker 2: best version of themselves is also doing what we want
Speaker 2: to do. And what I'm talking about is possessions. Kentucky
Speaker 2: is they're most dangerous a legitimate national championship contender when
Speaker 2: they're playing anybody that I've seen in college basketball where
Speaker 2: they want to go possession for possession and just you know,
Speaker 2: it's that it's played that fast because Kentucky is really
Speaker 2: efficient in that area. Now again, they're going to have
Speaker 2: nights where they want to do that and maybe they're
Speaker 2: missing shots, but you know, they've got Kobe Brea who
Speaker 2: can put on a performance like he did against Florida
Speaker 2: in any moment and it's not a shocker. He's that's
Speaker 2: a weapon. They've got other guys that aren't maybe elite shooters,
Speaker 2: but if the game's played fast, they're getting good looks
Speaker 2: in transition. Andrew Carr spotting up, he'll knock it. Louisville
Speaker 2: fans learn firsthand Lamont Butler he can get hot and
Speaker 2: make three point shots too. So the two teams I
Speaker 2: think are alike, where Kobe Bray is probably the best
Speaker 2: shooter in the country, to be honest with you, and
Speaker 2: I don't. I think his performance recently kind of confirms that.
Speaker 2: So he's the one guy they have that's just like
Speaker 2: the guy that you know can get hot and change
Speaker 2: a game. By himself. Louisville has that in rain Smith.
Speaker 2: I'm not putting rain on Kobe Bray's level yet, but
Speaker 2: Rain Smith's the same guy, like he could get hot
Speaker 2: and make four in a row and nobody's shocked. Like
Speaker 2: he's the guy that. Twice this year I've seen it.
Speaker 2: Timeouts are called and the opposing coach is in one
Speaker 2: of his players grill because he's in disbelief that they
Speaker 2: let rain Smith get open in transition because he's that
Speaker 2: he's on the scouting report as that. But everybody else
Speaker 2: to play for both teams, you got guys that can
Speaker 2: knock it, but it's just you know, they may have
Speaker 2: off nights and like that's not a shocker. So this
Speaker 2: Kentucky team, I mean, if you Clemson, who over a
Speaker 2: place tonight. Clemson clearly slowed Kentucky down and did a
Speaker 2: good job of not letting Kentucky dictate pace and style,
Speaker 2: And that didn't guarantee they'd win, but it gave them
Speaker 2: a much better chance at knocking them off. And I
Speaker 2: think Florida is a team against Kentucky on Saturday. They
Speaker 2: feel like, hey, why would we like we're the better team, right,
Speaker 2: I mean they thought they were, and we know they
Speaker 2: want to do what we want to do, but we
Speaker 2: feel like we're better equipped to do it. And maybe
Speaker 2: if they played ten times, Florida wins more than five.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but it's just if you're going to
Speaker 2: play Kentucky, you're going to challenge them to play a
Speaker 2: style that you know they prefer and that they're at
Speaker 2: their best, their ceiling is the highest. You got to
Speaker 2: be prepared to have that happen to you, like what
Speaker 2: happened on Saturday. When this can I mean, we pull
Speaker 2: it up here because I'm pretty sure I don't remember
Speaker 2: the final score. Did Kentucky score one hundred? Let me
Speaker 2: see here? Yeah, Kentucky, Yeah, one hundred and six to
Speaker 2: one hundred. So they gave up a lot of points,
Speaker 2: but again and then they were in control for the
Speaker 2: majority of the second half. So you know, Florida probably
Speaker 2: would would overall view their performance as far as the numbers.
Speaker 2: If they wanted to just nerd out on the numbers.
Speaker 2: They probably feel pretty good about what they did, but
Speaker 2: they played a team that in fact is better at
Speaker 2: doing that than them. Probably a rare situation for them,
Speaker 2: to be honest with you, So for Georgia tonight, they're
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm surprised, I'm not going to touch it,
Speaker 2: but wouldn't you I mean, again, we may just block
Speaker 2: out and go off the air by saying this, But Austin,
Speaker 2: don't you think Kentucky minus one and a half is
Speaker 2: like such an obvious play here? I'm not betting it,
Speaker 2: and I hope that they get killed. But like I
Speaker 2: just think, you know, watching ball here, like I think,
Speaker 2: I think Kentucky george is not viewed as one of
Speaker 2: the big atmospheres on the road in the SEC and basketball.
Speaker 2: Georgia they only win, they have a good win against
Speaker 2: Saint John's, But if you're paying attention Rick Patino, you
Speaker 2: know he's a bubble team right now when it comes
Speaker 2: to the resume. So I don't know, I don't know
Speaker 2: enough about Georgia to to just say, like, I guarantee
Speaker 2: Kentucky crushes them, But I just don't really know what
Speaker 2: the only thing that could make this matchup. And again
Speaker 2: I'm saying this more so to compliment Kentucky than saying
Speaker 2: Georgia stinks. But knowing what I know about both teams,
Speaker 2: I just can't really think of what odds makers here
Speaker 2: are or the books are thinking that would make this
Speaker 2: like a that close of a game. I think Kentucky
Speaker 2: minus like four and a half would be more of
Speaker 2: like an appropriate line.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Georgia just kind of got the well, they
Speaker 3: got finished off by Old Miss this last weekend, and
Speaker 3: I think that they were only.
Speaker 2: Four ports were fifty one points.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, maybe I think they might have been if
Speaker 3: I can't remember four, maybe they might have been ten
Speaker 3: point underdogs. But it was a very close because I
Speaker 3: took Georgia to cover and then they just ended up
Speaker 3: getting blown out in the second half.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Georgia right now is fiftieth in the in the
Speaker 2: Ken Palm, and again they do have a good win
Speaker 2: against Saint John's, but it's not as good as you
Speaker 2: probably think. And Ole Miss and you may one by
Speaker 2: twelve Marquette, that's their other laws, so they're twelve and two.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want act like they're a bad team,
Speaker 2: trust me. I know that the SEC's loaded this year,
Speaker 2: and even the bad SEC teams will probably probably be
Speaker 2: pretty good in most other leagues. But I just you know,
Speaker 2: I would love to to figure if somebody's like hammering
Speaker 2: Georgia here and they're not a Georgia fan. I would
Speaker 2: love to get your reasoning. And again I'm not asking
Speaker 2: somebody to call in and tell me, but like I
Speaker 2: just from a basketball perspective, I would love to hear
Speaker 2: somebody give me the case as to why Georgia would
Speaker 2: you know? Again, Kentucky can play poorly and lose to
Speaker 2: a lot of teams because they're right now at their
Speaker 2: best based off of like the style they play in
Speaker 2: what they do more so than like just having god
Speaker 2: given talent. They can go out there and play poorly
Speaker 2: and still win because they're just that much better than
Speaker 2: their opponents. That's not how this Kentucky teams build. But
Speaker 2: you know, maybe I'm just getting caught up in how
Speaker 2: well Kentucky played against Florida and that's a monster win
Speaker 2: for him because playing on the road in the SEC
Speaker 2: you know, I guess it depends on where you are.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll be completely wrong, because I just imagine there's
Speaker 2: not in a whole lot of momentum for Georgia basketball
Speaker 2: right now. But maybe I'm wrong. We shall see. All right,
Speaker 2: let's take our first break here in the five o'clock hour.
Speaker 2: We'll keep it rolling along here I don't know if
Speaker 2: you guys have heard about that lawsuit that was filed
Speaker 2: by a former makeup artist for Fox Sports who has
Speaker 2: filed a lawsuit against Joey Taylor Skip Bayless, the president
Speaker 2: I believe of Fox Sports, and it's a juicy, juicy
Speaker 2: story when it comes to the details, and I get
Speaker 2: why it's a big deal for a variety of reasons,
Speaker 2: but I kind of feel like it's got to I
Speaker 2: kind of feel like we're gonna later learn that this
Speaker 2: lawsuit is thrown out, and like some of it's just like,
Speaker 2: as much as you want to criticize some of the
Speaker 2: things that are alleged in this lawsuit, and certainly not
Speaker 2: a good look if it's true, why would you be
Speaker 2: able to sue? I know you can sue for anything,
Speaker 2: but like the scenario where Fox gets buried here, I
Speaker 2: don't really know if that's going to play out, but
Speaker 2: we can certainly talk about it. Speaking of like juicy,
Speaker 2: wild raunchy, there's a Jerry Springer documentary that came out
Speaker 2: on Netflix and I cannot wait to watch it. That's
Speaker 2: my that's that's my. Whenever my wife and I were
Speaker 2: in the stages of dating, if we can call it that.
Speaker 2: We were going out in middle school. That's what we
Speaker 2: called it. We were going together. We were yeah, we know,
Speaker 2: I'm not that old bro. We were going out. I
Speaker 2: asked her out on AOL and Sea Messenger and we
Speaker 2: became an item. But like we would we would talk
Speaker 2: on We would talk on our our house phones not
Speaker 2: you know, we didn't have cell phones back then. And
Speaker 2: we would sometimes stay up and watch Jerry Springer like
Speaker 2: together like that, you know, we would be on the phone,
Speaker 2: she beat her house, be at my house and we'd
Speaker 2: watched Jerry Springer and like, realize how wild the world was?
Speaker 2: That is Jerry Springer. So that's great. Way we have
Speaker 2: to watch it. Oh yeah, I can't wait. It's on Netflix.
Speaker 2: So we'll finish strong here. At least we'll try. We'll
Speaker 2: give it our best effort. Stick with us right here
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Speaker 2: seven ninety. I think it's pretty obvious that people love
Speaker 2: drama and controversy, scandal. I mean, you don't like to
Speaker 2: be involved in it esecially if it's a bad look
Speaker 2: for you, But it's it's kind of like a car
Speaker 2: wreck where if it's bad. People can't get enough of it.
Speaker 2: They want to read details, and I don't. I guess
Speaker 2: that's just how we're wired. Sobolutely. I think Fox Sports,
Speaker 2: which I'll be honest with you, I've always I've always
Speaker 2: felt like Fox Sports does a good job when it
Speaker 2: comes to production with their live daily sports talk shows.
Speaker 2: I mean, clearly, they do a lot of the same
Speaker 2: stuff that ESPN does, and I think they've got some
Speaker 2: pretty good resources. I think they've got some talented people
Speaker 2: that do a good job when it comes to whatever
Speaker 2: this is, sports, media, entertainment, whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 2: The roundtable shows, that kind of stuff. Colin I think
Speaker 2: is you know, an acquired taste. But I clearly I
Speaker 2: am aware of how talented he is and biovery metric.
Speaker 2: He's one of the best that's ever done this. So
Speaker 2: they just don't get as much love because they're they're
Speaker 2: not maybe ever going to be where people just turn
Speaker 2: to when I'm when I say Fox, I'm mean FS
Speaker 2: one because he ha, of course that's all they do sports.
Speaker 2: But Fox. You know, there's Fox News, there's Fox affiliates
Speaker 2: of course, like WDRB here in town. But FS one
Speaker 2: is where all of their sports content lives twenty four
Speaker 2: to seven, and it's just still not a natural thing
Speaker 2: for people who are like me. They just consume sports
Speaker 2: to wear. Hey, there's nothing on I'm gonna throw on.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw it on FS one to watch Colin,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like, I just don't think
Speaker 2: many people do that. And there's not as many games
Speaker 2: on FS one either, so it's just not They just
Speaker 2: don't get the same viewership that ESPN does and they
Speaker 2: probably never will. But I've always felt like, you know,
Speaker 2: despite that, they do a pretty good job, and I'm
Speaker 2: always reminded by that whenever I consume any of their stuff.
Speaker 2: I think their college basketball coverage is really good. So
Speaker 2: I bring all this up to say that I feel
Speaker 2: like this lawsuit that became news the last couple of days,
Speaker 2: it's probably more than these people have been talked about,
Speaker 2: like maybe ever. Like Joy Taylor is a known person
Speaker 2: within sports media for a variety of reasons. She works
Speaker 2: on a platform like Fox Sports. You see her on
Speaker 2: her own show on FS one, she was a part
Speaker 2: of Colin Show for quite some time, and also she's
Speaker 2: a very attractive woman like that also is a factor too, So,
Speaker 2: you know, Joy Taylor's a known person. But unfortunately for her,
Speaker 2: or maybe she doesn't care, I don't know, she's probably
Speaker 2: getting more discussion right now among sports fans and of
Speaker 2: course the Internet than she ever has, you know, and
Speaker 2: I think it speaks to how distant they probably are
Speaker 2: from the four letter network, but also that this kind
Speaker 2: of stuff will get attention more so than any take
Speaker 2: you give about a football player or a basketball team,
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. So here's what's out there. The
Speaker 2: lawsuit is, it was followed last week, and it accuses
Speaker 2: three different defendants. Actually I'm not sure if there's three there,
Speaker 2: maybe more, but it's exec executive vice president of content
Speaker 2: at Fox Charlie Dixon Skip Bayless. Of course, I'm sure
Speaker 2: you guys are familiar with he recently left to Fox Sports.
Speaker 2: Maybe this was a factor in that. And also Joy Taylor,
Speaker 2: who had mentioned so front Front Office Sports. They're the
Speaker 2: ones who first reported on this lawsuit, and they they
Speaker 2: have all the details. And here's what is alleged. There's
Speaker 2: a former makeup artist, is a makeup artist or a
Speaker 2: makeup person. I feel like I'm disrespecting that that that career,
Speaker 2: that that occupation, and I know it's very important and
Speaker 2: they're very good at what they do, so I don't
Speaker 2: want to do I don't I'm not meaning, I'm just
Speaker 2: I don't wear makeup. I probably could use it, but
Speaker 2: probably look better. So I don't know what it's called.
Speaker 2: But someone who was some I mean, help me out here, Austin.
Speaker 2: If you work for a company and you're doing the
Speaker 2: makeup for the talent on TV, are you a makeup artist?
Speaker 2: Is that I feel like I'm I feel like I'm
Speaker 2: making up that title. But is that a thing? I guess?
Speaker 3: I guess so, like if you're on a set like that,
Speaker 3: you're definitely part of the hair and makeup team, and
Speaker 3: I guess you're a technical job would be called I.
Speaker 2: Know you're you're important, but I just I feel like,
Speaker 2: you know, there's certain In fact, there's a lot of
Speaker 2: there's a lot of professions out there, gigs if you
Speaker 2: will that they like to be called something, but if
Speaker 2: they're called something else, they're not going to be happy.
Speaker 2: Like for example, by saying makeup artist, I feel like,
Speaker 2: you know, that could be the right way to do it,
Speaker 2: or it's I could be basically doing the same things
Speaker 2: when you call a pipe fit or a plumber. You're
Speaker 2: likely going to get punched in the mouth by some
Speaker 2: blue collar guy who doesn't take that well and he
Speaker 2: thinks it's disrespect. So no disrespect to the makeup industry.
Speaker 2: I just don't know exactly what the title is. We'll
Speaker 2: roll with that. But she filed a lawsuit last week
Speaker 2: alleging that the executive vice president of Content Dixon grabbed
Speaker 2: her her ear end at a birthday party in West
Speaker 2: Hollywood during her time there. She no longer works for
Speaker 2: FS One by the Way or Fox, and she also
Speaker 2: said she relayed that encounter to joe Taylor, and Joey
Speaker 2: Taylor allegedly told her like, get over it, deal with it,
Speaker 2: that kind of thing, and she was bothered by that.
Speaker 2: So after starting work on the Undisputed Morning Show with
Speaker 2: Skip Bayless, the suit alleges that Skip began giving this
Speaker 2: woman lingering hugs and kisses on the cheek while putting
Speaker 2: his body against hers and pressing against her her chesticles
Speaker 2: if you will. The single mother alleges in her lawsuit
Speaker 2: that she repeatedly told Bayliss she was not interested in
Speaker 2: him and did not quote date at work. She also
Speaker 2: claims she told Bayliss she was suffering from ovarian cancer
Speaker 2: after developing issues with her left ovary in an effort
Speaker 2: to halt his advances. Instead, Bayliss became more aggressive over
Speaker 2: the years. According to the suit, he allegedly offered her
Speaker 2: one point five million dollars to have sex with him
Speaker 2: and claimed he could quote change her life. The suit
Speaker 2: also claims Bayless accused her of sleeping with Shannon Sharp,
Speaker 2: his co star on Undisputed. So when it comes to Bayless,
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's that's not a good look. You're
Speaker 2: a creep at work, according to these allegations, and that's
Speaker 2: we'll get into the other part of this lawsuit, but
Speaker 2: that that's the first red flag to me that this
Speaker 2: can't be real. I know Skip's got money and ain't
Speaker 2: none for Skip to drop a bag, Yeah, he ain't
Speaker 2: paying one. Who's there? Who would you? One million? Like
Speaker 2: one million dollars would have to be like a penny
Speaker 2: to you for you to pay, I mean, paying to
Speaker 2: have sex with anybody to me would be the most
Speaker 2: like humiliating thing in the world. Not to say, like
Speaker 2: you know, I mean that's just for my personal appearance.
Speaker 2: If I ever needed to pay a woman to want
Speaker 2: to have, you know, relations with me. It would make
Speaker 2: me feel like I'm like, I'm you know, it's your
Speaker 2: last resort. Yeah, but all I mean, one of it
Speaker 2: would it would be gross. It would just be like,
Speaker 2: you know, I can't relate. But even if like I
Speaker 2: was in that world of like, yeah, that's what we
Speaker 2: do now. If we want to hook up with women,
Speaker 2: we pay them, Like I'm sure, I mean clearly, that
Speaker 2: is a world where women probably make a lot of
Speaker 2: money doing that. And hey, if you're cool with it,
Speaker 2: find by me. You do you, But nobody's paying one
Speaker 2: point five million to have sex with anybody, Like I
Speaker 2: don't care rich you are. That makes no sense, Like
Speaker 2: that makes like that's where if you were going to
Speaker 2: try to like embellius, you embellished way too much because
Speaker 2: that just doesn't like that just can't be real. Like
Speaker 2: he could be a ten times bigger creep than any
Speaker 2: of these allegations tell us. But that's where I just
Speaker 2: there's no there's no way like that anybody would would
Speaker 2: do that. So maybe it was just him talking, or
Speaker 2: maybe she made it up and exaggerated. I don't know,
Speaker 2: But anyways, one week later after he offered, you know,
Speaker 2: to change her life and said he'd pay her one
Speaker 2: point five mil to to knock boots. She she says
Speaker 2: that he made another advance at her, and she responded
Speaker 2: by saying, Skip, stop, you have a wife. Bayliss responded,
Speaker 2: aren't you Muslim? Doesn't your dad have three to four wives?
Speaker 2: So she responded that her father was dead, and mister
Speaker 2: Baylis looked taken, looked at look taken, aback. She made
Speaker 2: an excuse to leave. So that's what we know about
Speaker 2: the lawsuit and what they what she alleges against Skip Bayless. Now,
Speaker 2: but Joy Taylor again, if what is alleged, I get
Speaker 2: why people would say that's a bad look, and I
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, I get it, but what in
Speaker 2: this law like, I just don't understand why Joey Taylor
Speaker 2: can be sued for this because what she's being accused
Speaker 2: of is basically no longer being friends with this woman
Speaker 2: because she clearly they weren't on the same page as
Speaker 2: far as how to deal with I guess horned up
Speaker 2: dudes at work. I don't know. But it says here
Speaker 2: that meanwhile, the suit alleges Taylor began insulting this makeup
Speaker 2: artist on a personal and professional level after their friendship ended.
Speaker 2: The suit also alleges that Taylor mocked the English pronunciation
Speaker 2: of this woman's last name, who is of Persian descent.
Speaker 2: So the lawsuit claims that Joey Taylor, essentially, I guess,
Speaker 2: slept her way to the top. There's accusations of affairs
Speaker 2: or just flings. I guess with manual acho is it ho?
Speaker 2: Or I don't can't I ever get yeah aho. So
Speaker 2: you know, I don't think. I don't think Shannon Sharp
Speaker 2: is included in this as far as any allegy, he's not.
Speaker 2: He's not one of the people that's getting sued. But
Speaker 2: you know, long story short, this this woman is alleging
Speaker 2: that she's she's owed something because she was mistreated at
Speaker 2: work for sexual harassment with Skip Bayless and of course
Speaker 2: the vice president of content who allegedly grabbed her butt.
Speaker 2: And you know that you know clearly that that that's
Speaker 2: an issue. Like if what if in a world where
Speaker 2: what she said about Skip and the VP of content
Speaker 2: is true Charlie Dixon, then then they're in trouble. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's doesn't work there anymore. So you know, if he's
Speaker 2: being sued individually, then I guess he'll have to he'll
Speaker 2: have to pay out, he'll have to pay if if
Speaker 2: he's if he's found to be you know, in the
Speaker 2: wrong here, and she wins her lawsuit. But what i'd
Speaker 2: like the Joy Taylor stuff, Like it's easy to you know,
Speaker 2: make her a bigger talking point because here's what happens.
Speaker 2: Nobody's surprised when dudes are like that. I hate that,
Speaker 2: but like they shouldn't be like that. Most I would
Speaker 2: assume are not pervs and creeps. But the shock value
Speaker 2: for people when they found out somebody got a little
Speaker 2: too horned up at work and did something they shouldn't do.
Speaker 2: The shock level for that is really low, right, I
Speaker 2: mean I hate to say that, but come on, like,
Speaker 2: let's just be honest here. It shouldn't be condoned, it
Speaker 2: should be reported, all that stuff. But it's not something
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, I couldn't believe it. Although I am
Speaker 2: somebody that I guess is naive to where I just
Speaker 2: assume that people that have great positions, you know, like
Speaker 2: being Skip Bayless, a loud mouth that is paid a
Speaker 2: lot of money to you know, be a loud mouth,
Speaker 2: pretty good gig if you can get it, say things
Speaker 2: you don't even believe, but just you know, give the
Speaker 2: most outrageous take just because it'll get attention. Vice President
Speaker 2: of the Content at Fox Sports. I would imagine that's
Speaker 2: a pretty prominent position for Charlie Dixon. I just live
Speaker 2: in a world where I give people to benefit the
Speaker 2: doubt for not being dumbasses, not being ignorant, to thinking
Speaker 2: that they won't get caught, thinking to where it won't
Speaker 2: like really thinking, yak, probably I could probably do this
Speaker 2: or do that and get away with it, But man,
Speaker 2: is it worth it? Because all it takes is me
Speaker 2: getting out it or getting caught, and it could ruin
Speaker 2: my life, ruin my family's life, or you know, I
Speaker 2: could just get caught being a creep and I don't
Speaker 2: want to do that. So I'm always a little hesitant
Speaker 2: to believe a lot of this stuff. But I've learned
Speaker 2: over the years I shouldn't give these people the benefit
Speaker 2: of it out because you know, what I've realized is
Speaker 2: i've gotten older. It's not about being like relatable, you know,
Speaker 2: it's it's it. You know, these people don't operate like
Speaker 2: average joes because they're not. They're they're like, they're not
Speaker 2: they don't have the awareness because they're in a different
Speaker 2: world when it comes to like who they are, Like
Speaker 2: I don't want to say they're different humans, but they're different,
Speaker 2: you know. They just it's they cannot relate to the
Speaker 2: average person that is oftentimes realizing thinking about like should
Speaker 2: I do this? Should I do that? Like when you
Speaker 2: are successful, wealthy, in a prominent position, and that's a
Speaker 2: position that you've established for yourself for quite some time,
Speaker 2: I think it would be easy to just get caught
Speaker 2: up and like, yeah, I can do anything because I'm
Speaker 2: I'm such and such. So the dude stuff, I don't
Speaker 2: know if it's true or not. But Joy Taylor became
Speaker 2: the biggest talking point because she's very attractive and it's
Speaker 2: a juicy story. Wow, she was hooking up with stars
Speaker 2: of these Fox shows. She was cool with being I
Speaker 2: guess potentially groped by the VP of content like her coworker,
Speaker 2: because she knew that if she I guess was willing, yeah,
Speaker 2: willing to play the game, then she could professionally benefit
Speaker 2: from it. You know, Like that wouldn't be a shock
Speaker 2: at all if that's true. But that's not something you
Speaker 2: can be suit for. Is it, like, what could she
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, what she's accused of
Speaker 2: doing to where like this woman has a claim is
Speaker 2: that she was mean to her, they stopped being friends
Speaker 2: like that, That's not all I mean would what would
Speaker 2: Joey Taylor owe this woman other than maybe an apology
Speaker 2: for being mean to her and not being her friend
Speaker 2: anymore and telling her that she had no sympathy for
Speaker 2: her allegedly. Again, I'm not saying I'm not defending joe
Speaker 2: Taylor as if what she did is great and everybody
Speaker 2: should do it. I just don't think it's something that
Speaker 2: like she can be held accountable for with a lawsuit.
Speaker 2: But again, I'm not a lawyer, so what do I know.
Speaker 2: But and the thing is, it's a big It's one
Speaker 2: of the big stories out there right now, right You're
Speaker 2: seeing it everywhere.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's everywhere. And the memes have been funny. I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: I'd hate to make you a light of situation like that,
Speaker 3: but we're a part of meme days and social media,
Speaker 3: so those are always funny and seeing the comments section
Speaker 3: the things. But skip There's an interesting quote here from
Speaker 3: Stephen A. Smith where he said I've known quote, I've
Speaker 3: known Skip for twenty five years, and I can't imagine it.
Speaker 3: I can't imagine especially when they brought up one point
Speaker 3: five million Skip Bayless that I know has a hard
Speaker 3: time giving away fifteen dollars and that makes sense. And
Speaker 3: also Skip Bayless kind of has a hot wife. There's
Speaker 3: always Ernest Stein. They're always talking about her. She's always
Speaker 3: brought up as like a wholesome individual and as weird
Speaker 3: as Skip Bayless can be, I'm also seeing that as
Speaker 3: a hard time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, he's a little off, but one thing
Speaker 2: that became a really so when Skip and stephen A
Speaker 2: were together, I don't remember, really, I never cared enough
Speaker 2: to to do a whole lot of looking into it.
Speaker 2: I'm not I don't. I don't consume either of their
Speaker 2: shows and didn't when they were together, and I don't now.
Speaker 2: I was a huge fan of First Take, but it's just,
Speaker 2: you know, it's just not really my cup and see
Speaker 2: and I see that for what it is, and not
Speaker 2: to act like I'm on a different level than other
Speaker 2: sports fans to where like but like they don't believe
Speaker 2: a lot of the things they say. I don't think
Speaker 2: they're there to not be right or break news. They're
Speaker 2: there to entertain there, that's their job. So the more
Speaker 2: outlandish they are, the more people are going to want
Speaker 2: to clown them, the more people are good. Like, is
Speaker 2: it Skip that hates Lebron? Yes, yes, Skip's like the
Speaker 2: old time Lebron hater and he likes and he likes
Speaker 2: the Cowboys. Yeah, so you know, if the Cowboys suck,
Speaker 2: then people are going to want to be or want
Speaker 2: to be locked in and to see what Skip passes. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and if Lebron tanks or he does is phenomenal, you
Speaker 2: want to hear the reaction because he'll find a way
Speaker 2: no matter what to doubt Lebron or he'll you know,
Speaker 2: be there to dance on his grave and put on
Speaker 2: a good performance doing so. So like it's just a
Speaker 2: never ending cycle and it works these guys, these guys
Speaker 2: aren't making this money.
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Speaker 2: US Austin. Are you in a neighborhood Facebook group?
Speaker 3: Yes, it's not the current one I live in. It's
Speaker 3: one where I still live with my parents because it's
Speaker 3: like the German town.
Speaker 2: Okay Facebook group so I stay close to that. Is
Speaker 2: it a real treat, Yes, absolutely that. The last few
Speaker 2: days have been fun, so I it's one of the
Speaker 2: best things Facebook has. In all honesty, it is valuable
Speaker 2: to have that platform there to get updates, like if
Speaker 2: somebody said, hey, just found out you know, the trash
Speaker 2: won't be running waste maned Like there's value in having
Speaker 2: sort of, you know, a community forum where people can
Speaker 2: talk about things going on in the neighborhood. But there's
Speaker 2: also you know, like there's occasionally stuff that's that's out
Speaker 2: there that I just think like, wow, okay, that's what
Speaker 2: you that's what you thought was necessary to share in here,
Speaker 2: So I kind of can't get enough of it. People
Speaker 2: also kind of get passive aggressive, and sometimes there's comment
Speaker 2: fights with with people, and it's just the neighborhood that
Speaker 2: I'm in now, it's it's much more mild than it's
Speaker 2: it's used like ninety nine percent of the time in
Speaker 2: a good way. Where I used to live, it was
Speaker 2: like we had some real drama with the HOA president
Speaker 2: getting voted out, and it was real personal and it
Speaker 2: didn't impact me in any way, but it was it
Speaker 2: was kind of fun to watch that drama. But I'm
Speaker 2: in one now that is in the This isn't necessarily
Speaker 2: my neighborhood, but it's more of, like I guess, my community.
Speaker 2: It's it's the Zonting message board group, which I joined,
Speaker 2: and it somebody's just posted who is slash was the
Speaker 2: idiot sitting on the edge of zoning east of stave
Speaker 2: Mille Road, Like they just throw that out there, that's it,
Speaker 2: as as as a new post within the message board
Speaker 2: here on Facebook for the community. And I'm so tempted
Speaker 2: to just write it was me, come do something about it,
Speaker 2: Like I don't even know what what he but like
Speaker 2: this could be fun, right, Like of course, I mean
Speaker 2: maybe I end up you know, maybe I end up
Speaker 2: learning that I shouldn't, you know, mess with me. But
Speaker 2: like I just again, like Facebook, I just I see
Speaker 2: things on there at times, and I'm like, what would
Speaker 2: lead someone to bring that opinion here? You know, like,
Speaker 2: what what what are we doing here? It's not a
Speaker 2: picture of your car too, is it? Or is it
Speaker 2: just the post? Oh no, no, they're not even talking
Speaker 2: about me. Oh okay, that would be great though if
Speaker 2: it was you. No, no, yeah, I didn't think about that,
Speaker 2: but no, it wasn't. It was no, I'm out of
Speaker 2: the way. Therefore, and again this that this is more
Speaker 2: for probably five ish neighbor hoods that are all kind
Speaker 2: of in the same Kennedy. And then there's areas out
Speaker 2: here that are not in a neighborhood, just people who've
Speaker 2: got homes and a bunch of land and all that
Speaker 2: kind of stuff. So uh I, but here here's the thing,
Speaker 2: like this, this is probably not a good thing for
Speaker 2: me to admit, but I'm just gonna be honest, like
Speaker 2: I don't know who he's talking about or what this
Speaker 2: even means, but I'm gonna be checking in on this
Speaker 2: post every now and then to see if anybody figured out,
Speaker 2: like who the idiot allegedly was, and like what happened,
Speaker 2: Like are we going to get a fight here? Like
Speaker 2: what's but I mean, he didn't even accuse or say
Speaker 2: anything was wrong. He just wanted to know who the
Speaker 2: idiot was that was sitting Are we talking about sitting
Speaker 2: in a car? They sitting on the ground, Like it's
Speaker 2: just it's wild. But the first comment is from an
Speaker 2: older woman. Well I don't know how she old she is.
Speaker 2: Actually I shouldn't say that because I she may be listening.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure, but they just responded I don't know,
Speaker 2: I don't know. And the discourse on those are hilarious. Yeah,
Speaker 2: one person just has question marks asking, But you know,
Speaker 2: it's just it's an interesting place.
Speaker 3: The comment section has become the greatest of all things
Speaker 3: on social media.
Speaker 2: Oh, no doubt about it, No doubt about it. And
Speaker 2: I uh, I guess it's really just like for me,
Speaker 2: if I'm ever gonna, like really feel the need to
Speaker 2: let out something that I want people to know how
Speaker 2: I feel, and I don't have this platform like I
Speaker 2: usually will, you know, i'll tweet something. I don't do
Speaker 2: it as much as I used to, But like, if
Speaker 2: Austin wants to remind people that Noah Waterman's going proing
Speaker 2: something besides basketball, where's he going to send that energy Twitter? Right, right?
Speaker 2: Because that's that toxic space. So that's just kind of
Speaker 2: how it how it is going to engagement. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so I guess maybe like what they would say the
Speaker 2: same thing about us doing that on Twitter, but they
Speaker 2: do it on Facebook about nonsports stuff. Because again, I'm
Speaker 2: just trying to like I'm trying to think, like, Okay,
Speaker 2: what would lead you to think that your anger, your concern,
Speaker 2: your issue with this. I mean it's one thing of
Speaker 2: like you're like, hey, because for example this, I still
Speaker 2: would never do it because I just would. It's just
Speaker 2: not me. But we've got people kids sledding in certain
Speaker 2: areas and they're ending up kind of finishing their their
Speaker 2: ride down a hill, sliding into somebody's property, right, probably
Speaker 2: not harming anything or causing any damage. But as a homeowner,
Speaker 2: property owner, if a kid gets hurt doing something on
Speaker 2: your property, you could be found, you know, so you know,
Speaker 2: you just gotta be you gotta be careful. So like
Speaker 2: that's a legitimate thing where you're telling people, hey, I
Speaker 2: know the kids wanna wanna sled but can please make
Speaker 2: sure they stay, you know, in certain areas because I
Speaker 2: don't want somebody to get hurt and you know us
Speaker 2: not be there that kind of stuff. So like that
Speaker 2: that's where Okay, I still would have a hard time
Speaker 2: doing that, But like I get it, that's not like
Speaker 2: crazy to throw out there, but the whole like, hey,
Speaker 2: who was out there on the road the other day,
Speaker 2: who's that dumb ass? Like I just I just I
Speaker 2: don't know where that comes from. Why they bring it
Speaker 2: to Facebook, but I'm kind of here for it. So
Speaker 2: good stuff, all right, we're out of time, you guys,
Speaker 2: have a good evening. Let's go cars. Let's hope they
Speaker 2: can get this win tonight, and we're back at it
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